20 Episode results for "Brock Tober"

What's Happening with Impeachment?

The Point with Chris Cillizza

04:18 min | 1 year ago

What's Happening with Impeachment?

"Political Spin to bring you the news you need to know the house is still out on recess this week but like last week committees are still charging ahead on the welcome to the Point Brock Tober Eighth I'm learn to Ski Co author of the Point I'm here to cut through the were you download your guest that's three simple words voices of search to learn the secrets of search engine and content marketing are you interested in learning how enterprise scale companies drive organic traffic to increase their online visibility than download the voices of search podcast from the heart of Silicon Valley here search me presidents Alinsky this summer in that call trump called her bad news which brings us to the point Democrats are still pushing ahead in their impeachment efforts but they're encountering major road blocks from the trump administration and that is the point for October Eighth Twenty Nineteen thank you grambling Democrats impeachment investigation and raising questions about whether they will be able to obtain testimony from other witnesses Democrats like Adam share president trump and Ukraine sunlen is an interesting figure in this whole Ukraine saga especially since he's ambassador to the e U Ukraine is not a party went probe however that testimony is not happening now the State Department on Tuesday directed John Lind not to testify before Congress and to be able to answer the committee's questions president trump of course has even tweeted on the matter saying he would love to send ambassador Sunland a really good bricks. CEO Jordan Kuni delivers actionable insights dowdy data to navigate the ever changing landscape of Google Apple Amazon the voice related to trump's July phone call with Ukrainian Presidents Alinsky and the freezing of foreign aid to Ukraine all of which cuts to the heart of Democrats impeach briefing. You can get on Google home for Amazon Echo or subscribe on Stitcher or apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app so you never miss an episode the first plan deposition was to be with US ambassador to the European Union Gorden Sandland his testimony was part of the democratic impeachment inquiry in five his attorney said Sunland is profoundly disappointed he will not be able to testify and that he traveled all the way from Brussels to prepare for his testimony. Marie Ivanovich is scheduled to testify also behind closed doors on Friday UVAROV was recalled to the US before trump's call with Ukrainian didn't trump's intentions featured prominently in tax messages released by House committees last week lawmakers eager to press on land about those text messages you're listening for more updates throughout the week including our Sunday night campaign edition subscribe to the point newsletter at CNN dot com slash point if you like this audience the EU but he's a key player in the nexus between Rudy Giuliani president trump and the new Ukraine administration Sandelin's Defensive A. and Great American to testify but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court or Republicans rights have been taken away and truth search podcast arm search engine marketers and business analysts with the latest news and insight they need to navigate the ever changing landscape of search engine optimization and impeachment inquiry house investigators had hoped for multiple depositions this week but they may only get one all of which will happen behind closed doors. VACs are not allowed out for the public meanwhile Sawn Lind is not the only name on the committee's dance card this week former. US Ambassador to the Ukraine content are you ready to learn to use surged data defined strategic insights about your competition and your industry as a whole and search for voices of search if are not pleased he said the State Department blocking Sohn's testimony is strong evidence of Obstruction Sohn's Lynn for what it's worth said he was ready to test it.

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A Tale of Two Polls

The Point with Chris Cillizza

02:49 min | 1 year ago

A Tale of Two Polls

"Through the political spin to bring you the news you need to know consider it a tale of two polls on Wednesday CNN and polling firm Welcome to the Point Brock Tober Twenty-fifth I'm Lauren designed Ski Co author of the Point I'm here to and episode The Biden has shown since announcing his run for President in April Elizabeth Warren came in second with nineteen percent followed by Bernie Sanders at sixteen percent then on Thursday Quinnipiac released their own poll showing Warren in the lead at twenty eight percent compared to Biden in second place at twenty one percent sanders showed fifteen percent in third place for what it's worth Quinnipiac poll was conducted with very similar methodology to CNN's but and both of these polls were taken after the latest democratic debate in Ohio so when two polls different such as these there can be a couple reasons why yes and this is not a static race pulling a snapshot in time and tells us where things stand at that given point in time things are constantly moving both polls show two completely different front runners with two very different margins of support these are obviously two very different results which and which way is this trendline going in the Democratic primary we will ultimately have to wait and see and that is the point for October Twenty Fifth Twenty Nineteen thank you for listening for more updates throughout the week including our Sunday night campaign edition subscribe to the point newsletter at CNN dot com slash. The point is the question what is going on as CNN polling Pro Grace Barks told me it is too early with not enough data to declare any poll and that's RS released a poll that showed Joe Biden firmly at the front of the democratic pack with thirty four percent support that is the whitest Lee so it's not clear which poll is different if at all which brings us to the point it is extremely important to take stock of what is released and to pay attention to try outlier but it is important

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Talking Streaks With Dan From Isles Anxiety

The Isles Faithful Podcast

59:02 min | 1 year ago

Talking Streaks With Dan From Isles Anxiety

"Daddy what are you doing. We're recording a podcast. He's listening. Islander fans are listening. Where are they the right here? Welcome to the Isles. Faithful podcast with your host. Michael Shirley Line. Welcome back to the Isles Faithful. PODCAST I'm your host says always Michael Sherline and this. This is episode number thirty eight today is what is today. Wednesday Tuesday Tuesday October. Twenty ninth the week of Halloween scary very still brock Tober. He got one more game in joining me this week. Is Dan Saracini. You know him from Lighthouse Hockey. He has had some amazing using stories that he written over had written over there over the years. He also has a fantastic islanders. PODCAST himself which you know as is island raising Zaidi and we're GONNA talk about a couple of other new things. He's got going on over at Lighthouse hockey as we move into this episode. So Dan what's up. I much Mike how are you. I'm doing pretty well. It's a very strange having all these weird breaks so early in the season without islander's hockey. You know it's like like they tease you by giving you a little. Then they give you a little more than they take it away and then we're GONNA have three games in four nights again. It is weird I I don't know how schedule's like this get made but you know it in a way. It's Kinda cool 'cause I I feel like the islanders. Don't mind the practice time. And Uh if they come out of this break the way they came out of the last break though they should be pretty good As long as they don't get to the how what was their break. How long was there breaking In the playoffs wasn't it was almost like two weeks. Wasn't it was like ten days or something like that. It was like ten or eleven days or something that doesn't happen again. They'll be all right. Bud Light four days I guess is probably okay. Four days is fine. Gives them a chance to work on the power play and the penalty kill which has looked much better which will also get into with the ridiculous calls for or lack thereof. I think we should say But Yeah I mean obviously this year has gone pretty much the way that last year went. I mean maybe a little bit better of start We had Varma love and somebody Kinda told me they cringe every time. I would say that wrong. So I feel like Andrew Gross sometimes with the way that I mispronounced names but Varma has looked fantastic He had a couple of games where he struggled the little bit. But he's Kinda settled in grace's looked fantastic as well and You know they get. They're getting the defense. They're getting the goals in some aspects. I I think they look a little better here right out of the gate than they did last season. Oh Yeah for sure I mean it took them twenty games last year. I would say to to kind of start to not even not even embody what has come to be known. Barry Trots Islander's hockey but just to kind of look cohesive hockey team had some pretty bad games and I remember a couple of them. trots looked pretty exasperated. You know that kind of look like and we went over this. Why is this happening And they you know whatever ever points they got. Were almost kinda stolen by either grace or Robin Leonard who also was actually mostly Greis in October until lender started kind of getting in the act in November. But you now this season It's funny you mentioned Andrew Roses podcast but on on Arthur stapler mark parishes podcast Peres said something really interesting this kind of stuck with me. which is that you know in the first part of the game? I part of the season you just trying to collect wins like even the players are just sorta like you know it's GonNa take us a while to get into this until we get into a rhythm and so the fact that the islanders are picking up points is basically kind of what they want to do and the fact that over the last couple of games. They've looked like themselves From last year is probably pretty encouraging raging. I mean they were phenomenal against Philli For the most part and they were really really good against Would they play before In the they played really well and I totally forgot. Ah But yeah they they look at Phoenix Arizona. They look really really good against Arizona They they had them kind of running out of the building winging until the third period SOA now they've looked and then they played Ottawa the next night and look really good in there to all. That game was kind of a circus. Oh the fact that they look more or less like they look are supposed to look is pretty encouraging. And we're not even out of October you. It's fantastic to see. I mean there's been times already where I've been excited sighted to like sit through the entire game where there hasn't been like a stretch for more than five or ten minutes were like. Oh God here we go. You know in early on like like maybe the first week of the season like over the first couple of games you saw that but yet then you also saw glimmer of what eventually they would become here eight games or however many games into the season eleven games into the season so I think we really need to discuss right out of the gate is the seven wins in a row. And how that's the longest win streak for the islanders since one thousand nine hundred nine. I can't believe that I had I. I can't even believe I mean I. I know they've been pretty bad for the better part of two decades Dow. But you know that's crazy to me because I remember the beginning of the two thousand and one two thousand two season where they went eleven one in one in their first. You know whenever that is thirteen games I guess at no point. Did they win seven in a row at that and yet so that's pretty wild and it's funny in Reading Eric Cornicks stats. You know he did mention that As like the last time they really had a start like do not start. Start but a stretch like this and these sixteen points that they have is the highs total through eleven sin in the Cup or in the Post Cup era he said but then you also went on to say that you know the twenty points that you just mentioned were the only other time but it was an eleven consecutive wins. Yeah that's pretty wild and again Berry Trots said today. He's like we haven't even played our best and I'm just like we said yesterday on Monday and I'm just like man he gets like he just gets it you know. It's it's amazing that this team has won seven in a row and he's like yeah. We could do a little bit better better than this this. Okay sure I'll take. What is what is this feeling that I'm feeling right now and I was nodding as you were saying that Anna and now it's crazy it's crazy but and the the players I think? Say too like they all they all kind of Echo. What Berry says so yeah? It's it's been really cool and it's good to see and yeah a couple of those early winds might have been a little bit sloppy but I mean everybody kind of plays those games basically and so now you know you're trying to get running a shape and again like we said right off the top having that extra practice time is probably pretty cool because you know a lot of teams probably wish they had had that kind of that kind of practice time in the islanders got it and they wanNA use it so not only that they're at home here for you know most of these first eleven games. I mean. They had the little tiny road trip that they went on to Winnipeg but then they were in Columbus they were back. You know this way on towards the East Coast And then they've been back at home and they don't play at the Barclays. I don't think until I think was a Friday is the first year Barclay's Yeah for sure idea definitely November Our Friday's game on November first Friday. So Yeah Yeah they've done all this at the Coliseum and then go to the Barclays for a little while in the back of the kind of do it in chunks. Though I mean I don't even really WanNa talk about attendance Eh but I will say you know an and you didn't get a chance to listen to grossest podcast and they him in Jim bombeck went into that a a little bit with Some of the struggles that they they went through. And you know so far this year and then there's been you know the Sunday night games. Don't typically draw. Ah Very well I mean I know for me like we were just talking about. I have a long way to go and yes I do. I work on our way from home so she could. I spend the night at like my dad's who lives right by the calcium shirt. But it's a night away from my fans idols from the kids and you look at all these other people especially especially if it was a Barclays night. Seven o'clock in Brooklyn when all these people have to go to work. The kids have to go to school. I know for me getting back in one hour from the Barclays even even. I'm not getting to bed until after midnight by the time the train rolls in so. That's a tough thing to do. And then you have the Columbus Day where traditionally again not a very a good draw yes. The schools are closed but a lot of people have to work. I had to work as much as I work for. A school was working while I was sitting at home watching the game. Yes yeah yeah and it's funny. I talked about this with With Jeff Kelly the last episode which was like two weeks ago now. That's why the schedule. I'm sorry guys I know you want as much content as you could possibly get but we do have lives. You were sick. People get sick and I. That's true too I I did. I was not feeling well and And Yeah I I took literally like I up until yesterday I was still sniffling and sneezing and everything so almost two weeks weeks of being down. But you have all these people who who don't get off traditionally and and who's still have a lot of stuff going on so I I kind of understand in a sense. The reluctance to maybe dragged a family to a game on top of the fact that ticket prices are kind of ridiculous across the League. I mean you're even seeing gate drops ops in Canada and this is supposed to be candidates sport so You know I it. Just it's Mike Leave off and I talked about this on Ireland anxiety the day and we kind of have to like deal with the fact that this is the way it. It's and it's kind of always going to be that way. And I think this is a big reason why Latinos it was done exist out in the in the suburbs the way the islanders do You know 'cause it's it. There's no real quick mass transit to the Coliseum There is to Barclays. But I mean if you're out in you know where you are. That doesn't really help all that much. You know it's GonNa take you a long time to get out there and that's just just kind of how it's going to be until Belmont is Fully armed and operational not not just the the arena but the train setup and shuttle buses. They're gonNA have and and whatever they're going to do to make it. I think the owners now kind of conscious of this fact that people come from all over to to watch these games they need to make it easier easier than it's been. I mean. The team played for forty still playing at the coliseum for forty six years and what worked in nineteen. Seventy five isn't GONNA work today. You can't pile the kids and a station and wagon show up at a one o'clock game on Saturday and everybody gets those. Just don't happen that much so No for me. I live in New Jersey and so when they leave Barclay Center. Yeah I'M GONNA be a little bit sad because I work in the city. It's easy the Barclays is like a twenty five minute subway ride. I take it I go home and like you said I mean I'm home by like eleven o'clock doc. If I'm lucky from there but it's a way it's easy way for me to to get to the game. Once they move out to Belmont forget it. I'm I'm probably going to be down to like one one weekend game a year and that's going to require me schlepping out. They're gonNA stop by my parents ask Salo or whatever and it's like a whole day thing and so that's just kinda how it is with this team team and you know you you wish it was better. You wish that the place was packed. And maybe when Belmont is again fully operational will be but now it's just gonNa be kind of all over the place and as islanders fans wear a passionate group and I think the team knows that it just you know getting us to the arenas kind of a challenge and hopefully they can meet the challenge at some point in the near future before world. Great I mean. I'm ready getting old and granted. I think you're a little older than either Greyer but all right well what about this fantastic goaltending that we touched upon a little bit here. We have Varma Lov who's four to know he's got a two point five three goals against and nine eighteen save percentage and grace's right behind him. He's four one and got a two point. One eight goals against and nine thirty one one. Save percentage what do you think about that. I mean I think that Mitch Korn is some kind of magician like I just him. Piero Greco whatever. They're doing It just works and I mean I think you're seeing why they felt comfortable and letting Robin Leonard Go as much as it sucks. I mean we rob Reiner and if you've if you still follow him on twitter he can. He still likes the islanders. So He's constantly commenting on their wins and liking people's posts and stuff like that but You know I do think that it's it's really interesting that they are able to kind of work this system and and they're at the point now where the the team again is all there in conjunction like they. They work in harmony with each other and they're able to get get rid of pucks hurry but at the same time it it is going to require some. Sometimes you know the goalie to be there and boy Varlamov had a bunch of really really really incredible saves in the gaming it suppliers the islanders. Never were never not in control of that game but he had to come out a specially in the third period. He made a couple that were just like damn. That's just really good and you know given his health issues you hope that. His Groin held up in those situations. But now he's looked really good and grace's just I mean his grace the most unappreciated Golden League. This guy just he had that one bad year and everybody was like wow. That's the end of him and now he's on like a second. Stray at this guy is just above average in every single statistic in the NHL. It's crazy. It's just you know the way they do. It is is you. You know whether it's confidence or gain planning or practice or habits or whatever they've got the touch and so far it's it's worked pretty well and you know they they're gonNA need it to continue because They're not how long the scoring is going to keep up but at some point you know they're gonna go into a lull and they're gonNA need those guys to to really step up. I'm going to touch base on the scoring and his second. There's is two things that I want to bring up about grace about that bad year. That you referenced. The first thing is he got hurt in the off season that year. If you remember right right his wife had said something about. She posted a picture that they are in the emergency room. I believe he got hurt. Mountain biking or something in it and then he had also stepped away for one season from his personal trainer and rehired him back and then it's like whatever he did in that off season between you know whether it was a minor injury or not not because you never really know or find out. And then the addition or subtraction and then the addition of this personal trainer has obviously worked wonders for him. Then you have Greco come in you have Mitch Korn as well Barry Trots so obviously whatever the goaltending coaches are teaching or not teaching but emphasizing these guys in fixing whatever the little flaws they see in their technique on top of the fact that you have whatever magic Barry Trots is able to work within his own system to complement this. I think that's obviously you've seen needed in the past with him. He won a Stanley Cup of Washington. So he's Kinda it's taken him sixteen months really to get to this point and like you had said before for if he thinks that there's more for this team to give I. I can't wait to see really what levels you're gonNA reach still looking for that pop in that scoring pop but Yeah I mean I think he you know they they know what they wanna see and like you said I mean he he the funny thing about that Cup in Washington as I think about this from title time. It's at all year. They're sort of advanced statistics or metrics. Or whatever you WANNA call them. We're kind of down and down beyond below where they normally were for a team like the caps it always constantly scores on a goals. And it's always you know one of the best teams in the League and that you're there was just sort of. They were good throughout at the end. They weren't bad they were there is surely they were pretty good but they just didn't look as good as they had in the past and sure enough they start the playoffs and boom they win the Stanley Cup. And I just I feel like Barry. We know what he needs to see. And he's going to wait until he gets and sees it but until then he's GonNa work with the guys he's got to see it as best they. Can you know they're working and and I I think he's really has a rapt audience too. I mentioned this last year. He just found a locker room. That was like yes. Please teach us. We want to know. And you know he's got a captain and and a team that will follow his lead and they're looking for the they're not satisfied they they want to keep on going. I think that the best part about that is for all intents and purposes. The locker room has been the locker room by and large really the same For the last like six seasons. You had some additions and subtractions but for the most part you have all these guys and I talked about this on twitter the other day only because like some of them that they're scoring at this pace that's unbelievable. You have all these guys that were drafted together over the course of you. No that small. Tenure of Garth's drafting prowess. I will say with a crooked smile and when I raised but You know you guys you got guys like Nelson and Bailey and and you know even tapes bow right now. It's just Kinda unbelievable. C- you have that homegrown talent. You have the talent that they they brought in and you know. Some of the questionable moves may be that alka Lou Kinda did here to make make it his own team but Brock Nelson now Mr Mr October four goals six assists ten points and your favorite stat plus minus zero. Yeah Yeah now It's it's unbelievable how he's able to do this and I you know I wonder. I don't know if you'll ever admit this but like I wonder if you know assigning that contract has made him sort of rethink things and I. It's definitely true. I mean he said it like Trots is has changed his game and I I think trots put the confidence in him to trust him in big spots that he might not have been before and so far it's paying off. I mean you know. It's funny like we all say. Oh Yeah Brock Tober because he scores auto points. But I think it's the the implication is that while he's eventually gonNA stop scoring once. The calendar turns November December. But last steer you know I mean he had he had a career best season and know. How many does he have now? It's like eight right or something like that or is it a four four hours. Got Four but You know I mean if he can if he can become just that consistent twenty twenty five gold guy that he seemed like he's he's always had in him and had been just you now now. There are other parts of his game. He didn't really care for. I mean that's that's exactly. What a guy making that much money? Dutt's discourse between twenty and twenty five goals and that's that's perfectly acceptable. The Second Line Center right there. Who who also responsible defensively while so can you know play in a power play and kill penalties and every once in a while and do all that so you know it's it's it's great and he's locked up for a for a good long time so I mean you can't ask for more than that but you know it's just funny like brock is is a sort of very unassuming kind of laid back guy and you know you just want to see him bust out and just keep brock tober going into bro Vendor? I guess in December Walker whatever you know we can whatever puns. We can come up with after that. You WanNa get scared. He's got ten points after eleven games so you do the what the pace he's on right now. Oh and that'll make you shake your head not saying that it's going to happen or it's even possible. Rife but that's like a one hundred ten point paste. Yeah Hey let's see you never know. But and then his contract would be a steal because one hundred ten point there you know. Obviously you go down the line Barzel has been shooting more. I know he recently changed his stick that he had spoken about. And I think Arthur had spoken about five goals four cysts. He's a plus seven Bailey. It just continues to Chug away for goals five assists You got the defense all over this list. TAVES boy chuck letty. We'll let let you could put on a performance for the day and Ottawa. So is number should be pretty up there. And he's got a penalty shot. I don't even know if that goals even is that even reflected in those stats because that's pretty crazy It should be. I also thought that it was amazing that he was the first islanders defenceman since Denny Pot van to score on a penalty unleash shot so yeah does that. Say I know why I mean he would have been the first since pod van to have a hat trick they had stayed up which is also we says a plot. So it's crazy. Why did Martin? But in the way there I don I don't know and then he got brisard kind of turn it on which I wanted to talk a little bit about you. The move to wing. I was a big proponent of this because it takes the defensive responsibility away when you get taken away from center. He was struggling a little bit. It seems like he's developed a whole bunch of chemistry with his fellow French connection there in Brasilia and also with Brock Nelson as. Well so I mean you look look if you look at that line and you know like we already spoken about Nelson has four goals six assists beauvilliers got two goals four cysts and Brisard has three goals and one assist so we were looking for that secondary scoring Last season and this line which I mean I guess you'd consider them the third line even almost right right. 'cause it's supposed to be I mean not that line specifically but Brisard was the third blind center prior to him moving around and they'd jumbled up stuff so it's kind kind of funny funny that there's no real I mean there's a number one obviously because bridal Lee and Bailey but right. Yeah I was GONNA say. I would think that they're the second line the only because they then you have buy in terms of like Ice Time Suziki. Whoever was Amazon says Ecus Line is basically the third line and then last game? You have the Coal Bar Dro- Wallstrom del. Colle sort of grab bag line. Basically the last three healthy guys on the team not. I don't want us. I don't say that you know trying to put those guys down but basically at this point that's it like there are all these twelve healthiest forwards at the islanders. have in the entire organization So I would call that line the second line but Yeah you know. I mean if brock if we're always kind of concerned that brock is gonNA fall off You know that that goes double for charged you know He. He didn't have a great first couple of games still prone to taking bad penalties. Still prone to turnover is I mean. The flyers scored three goals the other day. I'm pretty sure two of them were off turnovers that he caused. So you gotta take the good with the bad. But a pavilion had to me has been as good as Brazelle has been as could Nelson's Ban as good as some of the defensemen and the goal has been to me Beauvilliers the guy who has just had the best season so far like he's just he's he's a different kind of player right now he's just engaged. He's he's got more energy than he had. Before and Barry Trots again with saying they last year he was a little bit to focus on points points and goals and now they just got him to just do what you need to do. You know in order to keep your lying out there. And he's doing that. He's hounding the PUCK and is getting and guys set up and he's just relentless when he's out there and it's it's just awesome see. I mean I'm I'm so happy for him he just I love him. Play out there now because he's he's exactly what you could have envisioned him. He's a smaller guy and he's just constantly constantly up somebody's behind and it's it's great and and then that opens up space for you know so far bazaar and Nelson but it works and if he can keep doing that I mean that's a weapon that the islanders had not had You know a pre previously. He's just get whoever is going to be playing with. Him is going to be the beneficiary of of his hard work. That is so true because you watch him shift after shift. He's out there. He Skate and his tail off. He goes hard into the corners chasing that the puck digging puck the four check has been relentless. All the lines. Really all the way up and down. The lineup doesn't really matter Ye. There's been a couple of games is where obviously when letty had two goals the other night that the defense is jumping up and they're almost part of the four check in a sense. It's crazy I I. I love when stuff like that happens. I love that they are sticking to it and you know we talked about how Barry has kind of stuck to the whole island brand in hockey. That is something that I love and I really wanted to continue. And obviously beauvilliers has like you said is on another another level this season so far and He's been instrumental in in a couple key goals especially that overtime goal Manage to knock knocked the puck back across. WAS IT Saint Louis Game. I remember. There was the Saint Louis Game. I think so. Yeah it just I so many good things I mean I get excited talking about it on. Its under saying again. I'm I'm very happy for him because he's he's not the last year he had a bad year. I mean it was down for him but you know he's just found that other level and again it's it's one of the things that you can just point to berry try and being like Yep they got through this guy and the same with bars l. to to like he's just he's playing that two hundred foot game and he's going to become a force on both ends of the ice. The way they envisioned him being. You know the the guy was playing right now. How the bars L. playing right now is not the same exact guy that was playing at this time last year in I mean he was having trouble? He'd have a bad season by any means. I like the sort of revisionist Virgina system that Oh he had a bad season night. In a bad season it was fine it was just below the calder trophy winning season. I mean there's no crime that not but he was trying to find his way and now he's he's he's kind of still molding into the the Barry Trotsky and player that doesn't mean that he's GonNa be all defense he's still gonNa Square. Tunnel goes gorgeous breakaway goal against the flyers the other night and ended ended. Carter hearts evening in that kind of stuff he can do when he's doing his thing on the other end of the ice too so it's pretty awesome and then you throw in this special kind of player. He is when is the open is set three on three in overtime. Not Not that. I want to go to overtime. Because now there's the new crazy tiebreakers with regulation wins and overtime wins and everything else. Yeah so I mean is great to have a weapon out there you know and especially you have to really two units at three on three that you could throw out there and they can do the same thing so oh that's good to see as well. Did you happen to see what team USA Lonnie said on. TSN about Barzel the other day. No I did not so. I posted this on twitter. You you can go check it out over there at aisles. Blogger on twitter I believe it was the SM- morning or yesterday afternoon But Thi Mo was being interviewed and they had asked him him who is the best player in the NHL Right now and without even really thinking about it. Everybody's going to say Connor mcdavid right. I mean we could all agree. The kid is just ridiculous without really even skipping a beat he said but beyond that I love to watch Matt Barzel the Islanders Wa. Aw that's sort of huge. It is Kinda huge you you come and you look at the type of player that Salani was in. Yeah okay. It was the half the dead puck era and everything. But you have this soup this amazing superstar hall of Famer and he's talking about our map bars l.. That's that's ridiculous so that's awesome and you know yeah I mean I think T- Mola appreciates that appreciates the skill and the tenacity and the hair is he had all that definite definitely the hair and We can't talk about Matt Barzel without talking about The magic tricks and and I didn't know about this until until I read your post At this week so you never see islanders involved in stuff like that and I was like when that came across I was like what is this and I was like. Oh this is awesome edges. It's apparently there's there's a longer version that I just saw the islanders website. So I'll add that to the post itself Budha. Yeah it's pretty cool. I mean if you ally he I like magic like I do but it does it is. It is kind of cool to see a at an islander getting involved in the League's marketing efforts announcing too much. I mean he is the right person for it. I mean all right so then we also have lead doing what he does best and he's been kinda parked out front. Knock it in some of those garbage goals. it's good to see him you know not trailing off your now that he signed an extension But you know he is good captain he is someone that's wanted to be here and you know we haven't gotten a chance to speak since he signed and that Way of him announcing that he was staying was absolutely fantastic on twitter. I just can't get enough of that either. Oh yeah now. He's I think he's again like we were saying with Nelson. I think he's been sort of given the trust that you know. I don't know other coaches. Maybe maybe didn't put an end but he's been given that sort of responsibility and and You Know He. He's on twitter and he does his can jam thing and he you know he posts the the the wolf of Wall Street clip and you know He. He clearly organizes outings. And things like that. And the guys just love him and took Berry Trots. You know what two months to be like. Oh this guy's the captain because they keep saying how much of a leader he is and he just is and he's just yeah he's a great representative for the team you know and it took him a while he had a couple of slow slow games in the in the first couple of games he he was kind of looked like he wasn't quite up to speed yet but the last few he's been really good in that I mean he he always seems like he's getting knocked act on his but but he's always still scoring at the same time. I think you have to cut goals in his last three games or something like that like. It's pretty crazy celebrating from his back. The best. It's like a quarterback act. You know you watch a football game. The quarterback never really knows if he scores a touchdown or not and I forgot who said that. WHO said this might have been Peyton manning said he never really knew. When he threw a touchdown pass? He had to look at the crowd funny. But besides is that. We're not gonNA talk about football because it's sore subject in New York. We have a couple of injuries. That obviously everybody's been dealing with Assist Jordan Eberle as been out. Obviously he's got a lower body injury from that weird Rut type knee buckle type thing. I don't really really WANNA speculate but definitely looked like something lower body and then two and one game with the same left leg. Injury definitely looked like coup nocco probably broke his leg the nasty injury they didn't even really want to show you the the replay. And then what was it like ten fifteen minutes later Martin gets checked into the door that's not latched and you knew right away. It was bad but I give him full credit for coming out and skating for as long as they did after. Yeah I wouldn't that makes me wonder what Martin like you know. I don't think it was broken but it certainly was might be something I mean. I got mad doctor. I'm not gonNA speculate but the fact that it did come out and skate at least a little a little bit. I mean he was clearly laboring for the third period. I guess is probably a good sign that it's not as bad as COO. Coo nockles was just to me. I was like that's really bad. Ah that just kind of is frightening. I don't know if it was necessarily smart for men. Martin comments get a little bit but the fact that he could might have been pretty telling But you know like like trump said and like we were saying before that that gives guys like Bar Dro- and and really even brisard and others people time to to play and to to make a statement and say. Hey I'm here when these guys come back don't just you know ship me off to someplace else. The press box in bridgeport. Whatever so Yeah you know. We'll we'll see. I mean those guys are their third or fourth line guys but at the same time Yong-keun acas case. I think ideally would probably be healthy scratch and would slot in when somebody is hurt. But now they're still important is still members of the team and especially Martin's case without him. That Zeke is cluttered buck. Combination might not be quite as effective effective bite if they can be effective with with somebody with Dell call on the other side or You know somebody else than the Bareilly Commerce to is sick on God knows what what Leo has so so I mean. These guys are all out of the lineup but in a way it kind of opens up spots for other people. So that's why you might be seeing this uptick. These guys are trying to make a statement and be like. Hey I'm here you know. Check me out. You brought up Cole Bar Dro and you know like you said Barry has talked about all these guys stepping up and they I I believe they said it's like a next man mentality and I I love that mentality. I I love that. They're comfortable enough with some of the depth they have in the system to kind of rotate. These guys in and with a story like Kohl's you just you can't help but just like buy into it and to kind of fall all in love with him right away especially with the way he comes out and skates and again. He's another one of those guys that'll stay through all his relentless around the poker trying to get the pocket and got his first. Nhl Point the other night Big Ross boss in front of the net. There's a little tip in I mean I think you and I probably could escort that one. Yeah the Be I mean crazy story which I didn't really know about prior to it making its way around around the twitter verse in Islanders Nation here but crazy neck injury A hand infection from fight from the guy's tooth. I mean yeah I was GonNa say yeah led to the infect. It's crazy like you said so. I I just like a guy like that has no luck you know. And and for him the finally make it to the League and to have his parents Come to the calcium The other day over the weekend and you know his dad was interviewed on I think it was it was either the radio or the MSG broadcast and his dad was joking around about how he had stayed at the Marriott so many times for work and it felt weird walking over to actually finally see his son play there so I thought that was pretty cool to cool. Yeah and now. Obviously we have have Wallstrom Playing kind of sheltered minutes right now. It seems like the the minutes have gone down. I I do like what I see. Out of him. there's a lot of potential attentional there. The kids should have at least four goals at this point with all the iron. He's hit so What are your thoughts on? Wallstrom bar draw While Wallstrom Wallstrom look like gangbusters first couple of games and then I think like a lot of rookies. You kinda started to kind of lose steam a little bit you know. The excitement was kind of becoming like maybe a man. I'm still here. You know I I'm okay with him. Getting Sad I know a lot of people were kind of upset that it was healthy. Scratch day I mean. I'm okay with with that like this kid's GonNa use nineteen years old. He's GonNa have a long career he you know. He didn't have the same kind of energy that he had. You know the first couple of games and I'm fine with that like that's okay I would like to see him. Get back in. And maybe playing on a line with with bar dro- is an ideal But you know I mean. He's he's playing here and he's definitely got the skill like he can definitely do it and he likes to shoot and he's been on the power play a little bit so the where where the islanders power play. Which is I? Guess we'll talk about in a second but You you know I think he's just gotTa find his way and I mean eventually the the seal will be broken and he'll probably pick up a bunch of in a row and like kind of like star. Has I'm presario. Looked a little bit loss in the first couple of games now. He's got three goals in as many games. So I think it'll happen You know again like I was just saying there is opportunity here for him to play and they don't need to worry about whether or not to send him back until there's too many guys for that spot and then when that happens they'll they'll have to cross that bridge when they come to it and maybe somebody else got hurt. I don't know who dons but You know I I would like to see him get at least one but and he's had chances and surely he will at some point but now I do like what I see out of him and I do think that he's got the skills when he that first shift in that game against Louis when he came out and hit some dude in the corner I was like. Yeah this is the guy like you. It was very exciting. Like yes. He's out there. He's buying Bagshaw hockey in the first shift. But then you know the hip the hits dot started stop coming and it wasn't getting quite the shot off as much as he he had and that's when he gets at an embargo just I I I love guys like that. Like You know he just comes up and and he just gives it a coach. What he wants is going to be here long? I don't know I mean do the Islanders Avocado Guys Kim. Yes they do so we'll see how long he's here but until he is he's he's making Hay and it with him the the big injury that probably propelled him was Tanta Fritz benefits is hurt. Auto Cova is hurt. And you know there's assist who's left aren't you get on a plane you're you're heading off to Columbus so you know it just sort of worked out that way and and here he is and again you know. He'll be the for sale root for injuries but down. If it wasn't for all of those injuries he would be playing. You know H I'll number two hundred and something so the he's GonNa make his. He's GonNa make the best of of what he can do you of his time here and It's cool to see I'm enjoying it. You know he's a fun guy to watch clutter Buckhead said about borrow that. He's a right handed. Casey's Ezekiel's so so now you take that into account now Martin is going to be out for the next four to six weeks you know. Does he stick around in that time you you know is is him is him will him will him. and Ross Johnson Kinda may bounce back and forth I mean but Ross's this is really filling in for camera of at this point so right. Yeah well Ross I think at this point is he. You know again. He is also making the making time here but but I think he knows that he's going to get put back into press box when when the time is ripe but again with him. Filling in for Martin is the same thing is the that this is his shot. Shot now and you know a guy I was telling my wife and my daughter while Wilson Watch the game the other day for a large man. He's got incredibly soft hands and I had to explain to my nine neural daughter what that means when a guy has soft hands he sense and You know I was like he knows what to do with the puck can score and he's just gotTa go right here so Now Oh it Ross is the kind of guy that you know. He's not going anywhere. That contract is keeping them here but I think he he's settled into a role he would like to play. But you know his role is to pop in when there's a spot and not screw things up and so far that's what he does. You could play him out there and he can you know boss people around. But he's also not a complete you. You know Black Hole in the lineup. When when the Puck is mistake so that's great I mean he's he's kind of becoming a bit of a a folk l- folk hero and islanders folk hero? Thank and probably. We'll be one by the time it's all done and you know. Needless to say we've had quite a few of those over the last couple of decades for sure we we haven't really had a whole heck of a lot to root for except for the guy that wants to go out there and beat the crap out of everyone. Well that's why we are. Where we're you know? We're we're New Yorkers. That's that's the way it is like Trevor Gillies before him like Ken. Baumgartner Makota and the whole thing I hey. Mexico scored a hat trick. So that's right. That's right which Joe Bono did a fantastic job. I can't say that enough. I know I've I think I've listened to it twice against so good. And the whole the whole of the hatrick stories is the best. That's part of it too. I loved how he paused when he was recollecting. Everything right probably told that story like a thousand times right like he's you know probably I'm sure it comes up every time he meets islanders fan. I'm sure it comes all that time. He's GonNa Hatrick lamaze and he's probably had it rehearsed but Yeah that was a that was a great episode was really cool. Do Do you WanNa talk a little bit about This crazy situation with the power. Play the fact that they're not getting any. Yes sure I mean you know I you know I don't know I hate the phrase. It is what it is but what I like about it is that they're not it's not getting in their heads. At least not as of yet I say that that hope that keeps that way but like now you might get sorta like a look like hey what you know what gives and then it's right back to work like they're nobody's getting derailed by this. Nobody's got I. I don't think trump's would let them. I don't think todd says you know if somebody's giving the reps too much I think trump's his slab on the back of the head and be like. Hey knock it off. You know The Guy who gets at the worst thing is Barsha because because he's The guy who keeps getting hacked and whacked on the hands. He took a he took a a wack in the leg against Saint Louis and we all thought he was cooked for a while but he came back and and did some things so forget about the face to the Kylie Jenner Kylie Jenner Lip You know I at at the end of the year. They're probably all ended up evening out and every team Mico through stretch like this but it is pretty weird and for it to happen right away with a new power play coach Asia and like and they have like a bunch there so far like percentage wise. They're actually pretty good on the power. Play this year so it's you know it's frustrating And it just I you know as long as it doesn't become like a distraction but they don't go into a game taken on man we're not gonNA get any power places GONNA stink. I you know they're gonNA have to deal with it and there's against score a A five on five like this is how it is and you know Bush keeps saying it and he's right. I don't know how how every team in the league ends up playing so clean against islanders. But that's where we are. I don't really I think it's a conspiracy theory. I talked a little bit about this Earlier this season about how you know. It didn't seem like there. I think at the time there is really only like eight power-play chances so I mean they've had scored five times at eighteen chances. So twenty seven point eight as as a specific number that you wanted to throw out there a second ago because I know some of you guys out there are gonNA say. Hey Mike why don't you give us them homers while I wrote it down on this time But Yeah I mean you have a new power play coach. I do like what I see. They're moving the PUCK. I'm not yelling at the TV in any kind of frequency. See like I did last season so I mean to me is look good. You know I mean yes. The eye test is it's pass the eye test. They're moving it around. Although they are taking stupid penalties with these in the first thirty seconds of power play which is giving them you know non much of an opportunity So there's that but you know I'm I'm sure it is cyclical it will kinda come about and it will even out as we move along here and the penalty kill is at eighty point six. They're only allowed six six goals against while shorthanded at a thirty one tries. I mean that's not terrible as wealth Yeah yeah no no. They've looked good on the panel. The again they've they've looked as as for the most part aside from you know after the first couple of games and After that certainly after that Carolina game where they got that week they got they got basically blown up by both the oilers and hurricanes after that point they've looked for the most part right. You know like themselves. I mean it didn't didn't take sixty minutes but Got To that point in the last couple of games and they've looked really really good so You know they'll get there. I mean I got I think it all comes back to trots. They know he knows what what it's going to take. And he knows when the penalty kill is getting killed and he knows when the power play is not doing its job and and they're gonNA they're gonNA get back to where they need to be addressed the power play. We all sat here under previous islanders regimes. We would have brought back the same. Exact powerplay coaches last. Cheer by last year's powerplay wasn't good. They brought in a new power play coach and now it looks pretty good so you know they fix what's broken and they they don't they don't fix what ain't broken now so far it's worked Again we're we're only like eleven games on the season so don't get too crazy but you know as long as they can keep piecing together little by little. They'll eventually be in full islanders but in short order. You know it's funny. Brought up the oilers game but without James Neal scoring four thousand goals against us in that game would have been a little closer. 'cause you're we know he's not GonNa do that again now but again like he did it but at the same time like the islanders defense was not good in that game now there is so I mean again you and I could buy scored four goals in that game too if there was nobody standing anywhere near US but Yeah that was good all right so we got a couple of tough match ups here coming up over the next week or so here. So we have Friday Tampa is going to be visiting at home and then Saturday diners are in Buffalo flow Tuesday fifth. They play the senators at home and then Thursday the seventh. It's penguins at home. So what do you think what. What do you think they're really going to do here? Over the next couple of games I mean they they do have a couple of tough opponents. Buffalo's plane absolutely out of their mind. Tampa is just Tampa Tampa. Yeah and you know. The pens of Kinda been muddling along as much as they've had some turnover and some of their own struggles. I mean this is a deceptively on deceptively. This is a dangerous stretch of games like You know the islanders They've they've been playing you you play. WHO's on the schedule? But I mean look at the teams. They've beaten Columbus was was always going to be tough. They've Philly was coming in although Philly was on the second of back to back so they might have been a little bit. Depleted pleaded but senators game again. That's a game you need to win. But the coyotes were coming in as hot as anybody at that time and and they beat them They came back to beat the panthers. The panthers have kinda fallen apart a little bit that came back to beat the blues. Who you know for fifty five minutes were completely clamped down on on him? So I I think that they you know I- Buffalo's GonNa come down to Earth a little bit I think they they They blew a game yesterday. Loss in a shootout how to To The coyotes actually Tampa the islands have actually done too terribly against Tampa so I think they can do all right. I mean they're going to win. I don't know and then the penguins the penguin to me is the scariest of the bunch. Because that's a division game. That team has a history with you that they don't like you you don't like them Of those four. I mean. I think it's conceivable that they win three of them. If you split. That's that's good. I mean you can't really ask for much more than that and if they do better than in a split it well then you guys are for real. I set it on our podcast and I still feel like to me. The the owners can play with any team in the league and conceivably really beat any team in the league with the exception of to the her Carolina hurricanes who have a gear that the islanders simply don't have don't have an answer for and the Boston Bruins who who play the islanders game better than the islands do and they they play it with more talent than the islanders have and with more precision than the islanders play with other than those who teams. I think they stand a pretty good chance so I mean I I I'm gonNA say split those those four games Alvin please don't lose against the senators honestly and if you know if they if it it turns out that they you know they lose the next two and they win the next two I. I'll be okay with that. I mean you know. They've had such a great start. That at some point winning streak is gonNA come to an end But if they take three out of the four four four then you know what and you just just be happy and enjoy it and and take it you know 'cause it's You know it's it. It means that some good things are happening. I couldn't agree with you more It's funny that you know you you brought up had said on the podcast about Boston and Carolina Those are two teams. That I guess what you could consider the islanders would aspire to be eventually Yes I mean. We're very close or they are very close. I hate making that mistake because I I don't play for them But Yeah They Carolina's we saw in the playoffs us but as we also alluded to earlier in this podcast sitting around for eleven days did really not help them at all plus they did not have boy. I chuck in that series so a couple of goals that could went in the islanders favor that did not go or disallowed kind of suck the energy out of the building and the team. You know whatever it is what it is. We can't really look behind us. GotTa look forward now looking forward because we've pretty much got to everything we wanted to get to WHO Why don't you tell me what you've been working on over there at lighthouse hockey? Oh my gosh too much never too much. I mean you have time to do this. So the and the funny thing is like I. I used to primarily right and I've got much less free time lately and so it turns the podcasting actually takes time than writing which is sounds weird but it's actually true but Well we saw vyas anxiety with my friend. Mike Lee Boffin. I we do that. Every every week We just kind of go off and talk for an hour and people listen for some reason. I don't know why but we'll have a fun time. It's pretty chill but this season we've introduced to more podcasts. Who are are a little network? One is called my favorite islanders game where fans can call in and is google voice the number and they could tell us what their favourite islanders game experience was could be something that was meaningful to. You could be just a great game that you saw and loved and and had a great time Matt and we've done one episode but it's been really cool and you know we kind of already run the gamut from no personal stories Two Games that are just just remember you. Just remember them because they we're such a turning point in the franchise we're GONNA get it. We've already gotten a couple of L. May twenty fourth nineteen eighty calls and I expect to get a few more but I think we're also going to get a few February eleventh to a two thousand fourteen calls if you remember what happened in that game so I believe that was the Friday night lights or rather not light. That's got a few times or the I forget get what date but the GIONTA various returned from Toronto game. TWOS GONNA pop up a few times. So I'm Dan my favorite islanders game is that's a new one and then the other new one We premiered appeared before my favorite islanders game was called Islanders Award winners and it's basically a narrative. PODCAST that's Goes through a focuses on one season where An islander won a major. Nhl Award so our first episode was on. Dennis Rodman calder trophy. Nineteen seventy four Goes was through the entire season how he came to the islanders. The stuff that happened little minutia that happened throughout the season his Time Management Mint issue that he ran into his playing with his brother John who had been acquired earlier his mustache that he had his nickname that he had What he bought with his first STA paycheck and so That was the first episode of the next episode of that Premiers Next Monday on the November fourth and about Bryan Trottier A and his nineteen seventy nine season in which he won the heart and art. Ross trophy so again. It's all about that. One season the ups and downs quotes and and little stories. That kinda get lost lost when you're like. Oh Yeah Bryan. Trottier one are trophy and I seventy nine but like what does that mean what happened. How did he do that? Where did it go? Who who was he again going up against in that season season? And so we kind of cover that and those are the first two episodes and we're GonNa have a whole bunch more. Every month will be a new episode. So we'll get to sit dynasty guys to it's a lot of dynasty guys but it's also modern guys stupid that that wants some awards and the other team has had a lot of really good players on we complain a lot but This team has had some really really good players and had some really really good season so it's cool. It's a little bit different again. It's a narrative podcast so it's really just now. I wrote the script at it and read it. So if you're into stuff like hardcore history or things like that people just you know reading off the script up then Then you'll you'll enjoy it. It's a little bit different and it's Kinda cool. I'd I had fun. It's a little research project but I don't know it's fine. It's when it's a subject you like. It's fun right. It sounds fun and I told told you before prior to recording I have not had a chance to sit and listen just yet but it is on my list of podcasts and obviously I subscribe to you guys over there. This is one the sort of so you're GONNA get a lot longer There's a billy Smith one that's GONNA come up in a few months and Yeah that's that's a long the billy billy complex guy. So there's a lot going on in that particular for so thank you and thank you for subscribing and yeah if you subscribe you get all those and you also get aisles. IOS Buzz which is One of our Nura members and that's Nolan Dan. They've been around for a long time and then our our latest addition to our little network is PT Aisles. Joe Who's Did the MIC BOKOVA interview. We were talking about before. Who's done great work for a long time? He's on our network now and he's going to premiere soon. So yeah it's a cool place. A one one stop shop to get his download them all and and listen that you hear lots of different voices and different stuff and it's all islanders based so it's Kinda cool you don't you don't see that too off. You can't can't go wrong with that and I am happy that you guys are kicking butt over there and hopefully we can continue a nice little relationship here moving forward. I I know the end last season I had reached out for you to you and I'm glad that we managed to sit down and chat and yeah the invitations open to come on on anxiety and Get Get worrisome with Mike and I I I'm very good at the anxiety part. Been Fan my whole entire life. I was going to say house. 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I obviously go way back and Way Back when when he first started lighthouse hockey James Myrtle actually called me on the phone. I don't even you know how he got my phone number. Probably through the island or something and He was like Hey Mike. It's James Myrtle and I was like the James Myrtle and I guess he you know at at the time was involved with The parent company of Lighthouse Hawkin and the other great blogs that has been estimation yes out there and He wanted me to talk too dumb to try to get involved because I was established and had a head credentials and everything. I know DOM is out there in in Saint Louis I believe right. Yeah so you know he Being away and being a transient fan so to speak. But he's a good guy and he's done great stuff and he's I'm glad that he's still going i. I wish I had time to continue to write but like you I have found on that podcasting is a way to get my thoughts out there. It's it's a couple of hours of work as opposed to sitting typing and editing. And it's too much it it's too much and and this is a lot more a lot more ease. It's a lot easier to say it than it is to ride it but I that that's a great sir. I hadn't heard that story. I personally am blocked by James Myrtle on twitter because I insulted him Not by name by the way it's alongside I don't want to get into it but I found his leafs coverage to be a bit of a roller coaster. STOR and tweeted it and to be blocked me so there you go nice. He's blocked a lot islander fans say. I'm probably one of one of so so not really a he actually message me not that long ago to tell me I was doing a good job with the podcast saw. That was pretty cool but yeah he's a big deal so that's a big. You Know I. I try to maintain those professional relationships. So but yeah I mean so before we get out of here I just want to remind signed everybody Head on over to kinkos coffee. 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Make it Six, With Jeff Capellini

The Isles Faithful Podcast

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Make it Six, With Jeff Capellini

"Daddy what are you doing? We're recording a podcast. She's listening. Islander fans are listening where are they? The right here. Welcome to the aisles faithful podcast with your host. Michael Shirley Line. Welcome. Back to the aisles faithful podcast I'm your host as always Michael, sherline, and this is episode number forty, six today is September second twenty twenty and this is a playoff edition of sorts We're in the midst of the second round we're GonNa talk a little bit of playoff hockey i. know I skipped between last episode in this episode the Little Bit of the series Jeff and I might get into that but here I am talking about him before introduce him but joining me this episode is Jeff Kappa leany of CBS New York known as j Cap G. L. J. on twitter jeff what's going on. And Mike, how are you buddy? I'm a I'm doing. All right. I would be besides myself with joy. Had the islanders pulled out the win last night but alas they lost in overtime again. It was That one puts you through a lot. I'll tell you that was that was a rough one. I mean they came back the third period. You had a feeling you know. Something special going on you know I keep saying that but. You GotTa get credit I mean their rent they ratcheted up and they needed to and. You know the they seem to step behind all night long the fact they show such big. Big Hearts in the third period after falling behind three one on the nist and then goal you kind of felt like. All right. It's not their night ready for game six and. You know brock with the laser beam. For. Sartre, who you know had didn't have a great game until that moment being in the right place right time and. You know opportune moment when Calcutta book made play. And you felt good but. Affiliate played desperate all night to their credit they didn't. Hold a bit ten after that they fought harder and it was better team in overtime win the game. Absolutely You know we'll get into that a little bit here as we move forward in the episode But On paper you know I I recorded a bunch of notes this episode and going through all the stats on NHL Dot com I opened up natural stat trick. Briefly and got confused at everything that I was reading. You know everyone else makes it seem so easy when they bring up all these. Join join the. Club. Coursey four courses against and last season. I had a couple of people on to talk about. Corsi and Fenwick and everything. And I still came away confused so I I mean I can understand looking at the heat maps and the shift charts and stuff like that and maybe he expected goals for when players are out there but I don't understand the rest of it anyway. On, paper the islanders blow away the Philadelphia Flyers they should. Serious should have been wrapped up and I digress. But you know we got strong goaltending on the islanders side Greis is second among goalies out of the top ten hero of the remaining teams at six per sixty minutes played with one six goals against granted he only played like a game and a half Varlamov one, point eight five. So he dropped a little bit grace and Varlamov were one and two earlier in the week I posted it on twitter but he sits fifth currently Varlamov does grace also has a nine forty nine save percentage, which is good for second If you look across the Philadelphia Heart is tenth at point nine, two, nine so. Right. there. He is definitely held his ground against the islanders and kept Philadelphia in this to this point you know. We're going to be going into game six and. Hopefully wrapping it up the islanders also have a ton of players I don't know if you've looked. At the top there with scoring, they have two players in the top ten for goals J G Patio Anthony Bavaria Eighth, and tenth respectively but there's a five way tie for seven goals. That's kind of crazy. Well. I'm actually encouraged by what they've gone off passively throughout the entire playoffs I. Really Am I. I didn't th they've been opportunistic they've been. At times at times, they've been sort of dominant. And the opposing in. You know and. and. That's really without getting hell of a lot of actual number production from Brazil even though he's been all over the place he's been. He has been forced out there. If you've been watching him I, mean he he's getting some opportunities and he's making everyone around better. Interest he's not just just not getting the stats themselves and that. I'm not concerned about it. I think if we get him back tomorrow I think. He'll be fine. But you know every single guy. Among their top six is has contributed except for well again in actual goals and assess it, you can look at Everley and be like you know when t gonNA breakthrough but they've taken their turns you'll. Carry them early. And there's Lee has moments. now brock is hot and Feels like it's ever leave turn next get him boards Zell going and they get that first line actually produced as much as the second line. I think Going forward that'd be a good thing. Obviously. It's not cut you off I it's it's funny. You brought up production because if you look up and down the islanders stats sheet on NHL Dot com every single player. Has At least one point Aside from Tom, you know even Tom Kuhn alkyl only played one game Ross Johnston. No points there sociologist shot myself in the foot but. You look up and down the roster in the plus minus and I know a lot of people argue that this is a meaningless stat but every single islander is in the green except for one and that's Casey's ezek is. But if you think about the situations that he's put into, he's out there he's killing penalties. He's out there against the top line. He's out there late and to try to shut people down. That's kind of insane. And again, sorry I, cut you off. No you know. I think that. They're actually producing more offensive standpoint than they did during the regular season, but they are there have to be a team that does. Go One through. Twelve the all as far as the Ford CEO they have to. It's just there's no other way they could. They could survive because everyone's carrying on far anyway. So what you would like to see I would I would hope to make for any. Anything you're not getting from the bottom six. Not Counting Patio but you like to see suspension and getting more into the offensive flow that You know it seems like Philadelphia is getting more offensively the defense than we are now under. So? You know I think we WANNA. We. WanNa see Contributions from the Blue Line as well because It just see it just feels like. No matter how much buzzing? Top Line is doing. It's not quite. There yet so to speak, it's just something's missing and I. I'm not sure they may not need it to get through this series but going forward if they do. You'RE GONNA have to met some fun. Even though the islanders play defensive game, you have to match some firepower you got to try to at least not some firepower against Tampa if you got. So. No. Right now they're still a very good position. Everyone's a little bit down after last night. But I think we were all so little bit down after you know. Sad. You GotTa Win. Win That fourth game is, is the hardest one to win even in the last round TWAS when they lost that game tell me that we're on the fans out there fearing the absolute disaster, the Bockel. Of Washington coming back. But what did they do? They just came out played the best game of the series. In in the game they clinched. They're totally capable of doing again on Thursday. You know it's funny. You bring that up staple had a couple of great points in the athletic this afternoon one of the stories he had written and it seems like in every series, I Florida they of failed in that. Third Game Try to sweep then they wound up losing. Came back closed out the series in four same thing with the capitals could have swept game five or four rather. Wind up losing. So it's three one one winning game five to close a series out. So this is a little different in that they've suffered two losses and they've been exactly the same. From the same exact play almost you know you got a goal. came. From. Deep, they're getting lots of point shots through. It seems that that's their game plan. They're trying to get out to the points and they're they're you know trying to keep a little bit of pandemonium in front try to get sticks on pox in three games? Three goals last night were off deflections a couple of other goals in the series seem like they're off deflections in that dead slot area as they call it. And Brock even headset in the post game last night as much as I was trying to pay attention in my brain was kind of just from I I. Don't know if you so I stood up for the whole third period and from the overtime. So like my legs were shaking, my heart was pounding. Didn't even have a beer last night like it was just it was. It was a crazy way to come down and then try to go to sleep after but. Yeah. That was I was I was. About Twenty minutes after that I was just like. Annoyed. I was annoyed but I mean, it was like an older I tend to recover quicker from these things. To me like five years ago I been beside myself today but. Now whatever. Live another dad planned to play today play tomorrow. They'll be yeah. We've been through a lot with the teams that we root for for sure. The only one that's been Kinda hold true has been the Yankees and We talk about that from time to time. Yes we do. We spoke about defensemen and you know there has been a little bit of the production from the islanders. defenceman The islanders only have one player in the top ten as far as points and Cisco, and it's Ryan Pu lock for his tenth with points at seven, and he's ninth with assists at six. So he's got one goal six assists for seven points But if you go up and down if you go up and down the list devante. Got No goals nope. Sorry. One goal five assists. Sorry my ipads like really bright. Scottie Mayfield for cysts. Andy. Green one goal two assists and how good is Andy Green been the last couple of games. He had the crazy block with his hands over time the on the power play or the penalty kill rather to get the puck out of the zone he seems to always be in the right spot takes hit to make a play just ahead of hockey player a veteran guy that this team has needed especially if they're going to be making a deep run in the postseason. Yeah. He's a consummate professional when they tried it for and I was thrilled. Because, you know at, you know there's people saying, Hey, we're just. GonNa play. He's GonNa play. You didn't make a trade for this guy and and then just you know come the playoffs he's just going to sit there. No, no way and the fact that replace worship. People, but at the same time. he's he's a better playoff defencemen that johnny. Boy. Chuck. Is, and there's because any way around that and I love Johnny. Boy, chuck but at the same time you. I. Think you'd much rather go with the guy who? Has I know trucks WanNa cop I, understand that but at the same time Andy Green was a captain of team. He's a warrior I mean for a franchise that. Back, then that was just Extremely good for a very long time and. He showing you why you know. He's he's revered in a Lotta ways by a lot of people. On top of the fact that he had history with Lula Morello which doesn't exactly hurt. Of course. Did you know that the islanders are the only team left with two losses when scoring I in the only team with a winning record when they don't score I? I don't know that and I wonder how much it really matters. I mean. As far as novel might be one of those anomalies I mean it's hard to tell what it really means they. Do, we expect them to come back last night down to what considering the way they were playing at the time. You know anything's possible. I think it bodes well for them because confidence wise is a team where in the past especially in the postseason, you know the second day faced a little bit of adversity. You know for the most part, it's been the same group over the last decade minus or plus apiece here and there obviously leadership and. Commitment to systems and coaching and all that aside that those are big things don't get me wrong for the most part. This team is pretty much the core of it has been the same. So the fact that they can rally. And come from behind daycare, it doesn't matter if the. Scores I. It doesn't matter if the opposition scores last it doesn't. It doesn't really matter. The islanders are not the same team and night I kind of buy into stuff like that because. That's the type of thing that drives these teams in the postseason. It doesn't matter nothing really seems to get under their skin. Staple had also had something else about penalties and how the Carter heart non call and the delay game last night, which I'm really gonNA. Get into I'm not gonNA cry and whine about it. It is what it is. You know we we've gotten away with a lot of stuff in this series as well but. You know you would have Barzel out there complaining to the rafts or you would have Lee not so much because he's been more of of the leader in that regard but to Vars was known to go bark at the refs and there's been some other players as well. So the fact that they've kind of just turn their cheek and keep playing their game it also speaks volumes for the type of person personality that team is becoming. Well I think they take their cue in that regard from. Trots I mean he didn't make a big deal about it. So you know he's You know he's not making a big deal that you can expect. Most of them aren't GonNa all of them are not going to make a big deal about it either. I. You know I well, not happened. Everything I was reading afterwards was saying that. goalies in the NHL used to getting a warning for something like that. even though the rule does state pretty much it should be a badly. So. I. Think it was more. It was a morning Peron. You see those tweets. Martine Baronne I saw somebody reference Baronne but I wasn't sure if. I was traveling on. I know John Cross was talking to him as well, but I think that was for the overtime challenge. I have to remember I mean I could probably try to you up here and see if Alan Hahn has it basically I don, I no, I don't understand how this is not a penalty and getting on. And all this, and then morning Peron tweeted said the rulebook quote rule calls for penalty but I've never seen this without offering a warning first. And then Han wrote back with Mardi Gras and forty three. So I'm satisfied. truth is the aisles tried to steal again they didn't earn and you know. They that's pretty accurate. I would say when you agree. I would say, so the the way that they played in the first, they have only four shots in the first period or something along those lines like ten four. After the first period you know they were lucky to come away nothing nothing and. You know. Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted also I am said after the first period I'll take zero zero all day Kinda ask the flyers to keep up that intensity for you know however many more periods this goes and they did Except for that loan third but. They were desperate and they played it and the aisles didn't match their intensity and you can. You can make the same case. The let me like we were saying for in game four against what he gets washing. The same thing happened. You know then they regroup. The attitude. I was reading today. Barry Barnes talking and and the players were you know we're putting out various tweets or whatever saying how they feel good about where they're going to be and it seemed like a very relaxed group. It'd be interesting to see how what what their attitude will be Should they lose tomorrow but something tells me they'll keep same public safes. But You know they're they're cool customers. These guys for the most part they're competent themselves and I think they. Have a much greater understanding of what who they are and they've ever had before. How much do you think that the weekend back to backs and the kind of the to daybreak last week prior to that Came into play with only having a day of rest in between before they had to go and you know having a potential elimination game here last night you think maybe. It kind of caught up to their legs a little bit or maybe a little mentally fatigued because I'm sure being in the bubble and all that is is a crazy thing to overcome. I can't imagine being away from my family for as long as these guys have have been away. Some of them have newborns at home too which is an it's another insane thing but. I think. I think the fact that they won the back to backs and then got a day off. You know I don't know if that really plays into it at say, say last night. been had been the back end. Of. The backpacks neighbor going for then I can understand that concern but they had the day off, which was you know? So I don't know if I really. They they. They've shown since the you know since the beginning of this whole crazy thing they've handled the bubble really well and the team bonding. Whole thing. and. So I don't know if I would put too much stock into that. I think if the back to back been set back in and then last night then maybe you could say okay and then. They could be a little shot but. No I don I don't think that that's really a real. I've also noticed I think we spoke about this last night on twitter. It seems that Philly is keying in on some of the more talented offensive guys. Obviously, they're kind of double and triple teaming Barzel. They're putting sticks on his hands on his body. They're putting the body on him shoulder shoulder Katori a wound up getting hurt running into him whether or not it was intentional or not i. don't know Patio same deal every time the guy would touch pock. It seems like they were hacking at him. He got pulled down a couple of times even Zeke's there was a non call at center ice, Ezekiel his feet were pulled out for right underneath him when he was going to. Yeah. and. That's suppliers, but that's the flyers playbook. They've been like that forever. and. The fact that it's in the playoffs. I'm not surprised me. You're desperate team you're gonNA do everything you can I mean you're GonNa, push the envelope as far as you have to push. And as long as they're not. You know the calls aren't going against they're gonNA keep doing what they're doing. Oh yeah absolutely. You know and then you know penalties aside it just seems that Every loose puck the matter what whether it bounces over and islanders stick whether there's an errant pass whether it hits a bump in the ice or hit a stanchion or whatever. For whatever reason last night in the same thing the night the islanders forced overtime. Was At game two. Now, game three. Every single time. Know came came to all right well, every single time the islanders would make a mistake i. it always seemed like it wound up on a flyer stick and you could always tell the pace of a game Who you know who winds up with the puck on their stick off a mistaker or just some misfortune and a lot of times it seems like those bounces go the islanders way. But when they don't man, it just seems like it just adds up and adds up and adds up and you know you had a lady icing that led do the overtime goal. You had a whole bunch of other passes and boneheaded plays. Brisard. I don't exactly remember what what it was from I. Think it was a turnover that led to maybe one of the second goals drew or somebody, but his was stapled to the bench up until you saw him out there with Clutter Buck in wind up scoring huge goal and if you watch the reaction of Trots on the bench, the coaching staff looked at each other like they drew it up like that they were like. I, think the I think that. What we need to look at here also when it comes to this beyond. The island is so far in the qualifying round Florida Washington now feel like they're all offense teams in the islanders are. You know they're going to dictate what they're going to dictate the islanders as I've said a lot. You know though there touted for their defenses which are not the New Jersey devils of the Lamour aloke Warriors, they'll limit teams to twenty shots a game they gave up a Lotta high dangerous stuff and the fact that their goal really good bills them out from time to time but also to. Be as effective as they are. When they are they they need to. Play with an intensity for sixty minutes or as as close as they can to sixty minutes and they got to keep that up all the time and trump knows it. That's why he put the hammer down on them after that game they won I think it was a game four when they didn't play their best and he said it publicly he knows he knows that they have to continue to do this. They're just they're just not built for with much of a margin for error and and so when you have roles and games. And your goal tending. Stand on its head. You know, do they have the firepower necessarily to to come back last night? They did maybe you could also say that. kind of fell asleep a little bit but. I just think that they have to play their style hockey all the time to be successful they can't rely on anything individual they can't rely on an overabundance of offensive power because they don't have. So. I'm sure that's the type of things that trucks constantly have to stick within their within their structure within their game plan all the time, and I guess a team that is. By. No means a juggernaut offensively. And you just have to. Do everything in your power to keep yourself in the game at all times and not. You know. And and just. Not. GET DOWN ON. Yourself. Keep the same mindset and just go from there. Then Hyun is. I think they've exceeded a lot of expectations. I don't know a lot of people expect them to get out. Of once they played Washington nobody I not many. I. Think a lot of people might be Florida but not many people picking not many people. Took The Washington I. Think That's People Picking The Philadelphia and if they get through this round, nobody's GonNa pick to be. TO BE TAMPA Bay. Flat, I think of it all depends on the health of Tampa because right now Kucherov hurt or at least you know they're not releasing whether he's Extremely hurt not taking that nasty stick to the face you know in in their game five or the five and Stamkos training in the bubble but he hasn't been skating. They don't really know they are not releasing the extent of his injuries I. Know He's been hurt since shoot since training camp before. So the only good thing you know so far is that it seems the islanders powerplays coming around. It's at eighteen point, four percent and fortunately for them. Philadelphia Zero for ten on the power play in the series and eight point seven percent in the playoffs in general. So not really not really clicking there islanders haven't really taken a whole heck of a lot of penalties in when they have. They've killed them off the last one in the game last night they didn't even have a shot on goal Philadelphia, so that overtime that overtime kill on Martin's penalty was big. The way they did it the way they the way they did it. It was it was just you could sense the desperation on their part you know in a gave the momentum to because it was pretty much right on the heels of killing that off that taves went in there and almost scored off the one timer. And then they went philly went up the other way and then Nelson had breakaway which he should have converted on as well. So I mean they did get a couple of chances in overtime. That was the biggest play of the game. I think. Well, no Nelson got in I. It just. Man You know if he scores go you forget about how poorly they played in that game. He really do you know in for a guy who has made his living and you know we've called Brock Tober and all these other funny. You know little need for all the months that he shows up in and he has shown up pretty much in every month now. Barry Trots has been his head coach. He's a guy that always shoots high when he's going in alone and it seemed like he was Kinda like almost fooled himself because he had so much time on the breakaway. And shot it right in the Carter hearts legs like he was GonNa go five. Meanwhile you know and you could always Monday morning quarterback this because we watch replays right away and we see the game a little differently we're watching on television I get it. But man, if he would have just made a little bit of a move and gone upstairs boom game over. Yeah that that one that one was I thought hard minute. Nice Save I. Don't know what Brock was trying to do their office. He was trying to go through the five over he was trying to beat them to to hearts right I down low I I don't know what he was trying to do with the one that really got was Everley earlier in the game when he was in a long he've he I think he totally herself he fooled himself on that one because twenty five. He held it for so long and then when he finally shot, it was week week attempt I mean it was it. He'd taken his angled away. He was going away from the goal to the right and then when he finally shot at, he tried to go through legs and he wasn't foreign anybody. I that's why I was just getting back. I just feel like he's the guy he's the guy. Now it's his turn. You know it was leased turn he he he came up big earlier. It was it was brock's turned brock's coming in. Now it's star could really is you know he? He did I have been watching him. A little closer than some of the other guys out there and and he. Seems to always be in the right spot Last night he was victimized by the puck bouncing a couple times. He went to go take a shot and it was like the puck just said no, and just Kinda bounced off his stick and you know the air the play where you referenced. Yeah. He definitely had way more time than he realized as well, and again it was one of those things where he went wide and almost took himself out of the play because Carter heart just kind of slid over and took everything away. Well the thing is also, he's really good in close. He's got great hands. He's really good in cost. You don't see him score much outside most of the stuff in slot you know he's gets a lot of garbage and you know he's it's just it's just surprising to me that he hesitated the way he did. He just totally. Fooled himself I. It was just it was just difficult because it seemed like an enormous moment in the game at the time. I mean they are going to have to find the back of the net a little bit more here especially in game number six if they're going to. Make a series out of it. Get us to the promised land for the first time since Nineteen ninety-three, I mean I know you're a little older than me but I was only thirteen the last time that. made it to the Eastern. Ninety three conference finals I think I went to two games. I was actually is went the last time you owners played. The flyers in the play offs I believe was nineteen, eighty seven. Wants to say. I was Nineteen Sa- and might even been the conference finals. Any was. No No. I'm not sure the year but I went to. The flyers wanted five maybe you can look that up and. You you have. Maybe, I could look it up, but I was at the game at the cost him. They lost four one in La Fontaine scored I remember that that was your Flyers WanNa cop I believe was the last time they WANNA call. My wrong. Now, what was the last year in flyers? WanNa come Again, Ladies and gentlemen you think this would be something that either one of us would have had we would know. Oh you know. But it's seventy, four, seventy, five, it says. The last. Played New last time the flyers Stanley Cup. They got to the finals I. Think it was I'd say. Ninety one. Anyway Point Band they could win one nothing game. The thing is it's yeah. They're going to give up their fair share of of chances during that. And it just seems like it. If they got a two or three nothing lead, I think over I just think it's over. But I. WanNa. See their mindset when they come out they sweep and sticks on their little tight. 'cause you know trump's is gonna he's GonNa have them in a good place. It's just a matter when you get out of that ice and you see what? Changes things a little bit. You know it is a home game tomorrow as well. So they they'll have only one one long change in the second period as opposed to two in the first and the third and I asked Habur metrics or Matrix, or whatever is twitter name is their carry if he had any of the metrics for. How what the islanders do when they have the long chain, but he never got back to me today. So that's something that I've kind of noticed that they've struggled with here over the course of the playoffs maybe because you know they're in a bubble city, there are no fans. There's no real. you know you're not living off the crowd you're not being you know that it really matters all that much obviously because they've been playing fantastic but maybe has a little something to do with it. The long change in you know being a home game. They could wrap this up on home ice. I Dunno it just maybe it's I. You know I I just actually found that game we're talking about he was able to twenty, four, Ninety, seven. Islanders lost four to one Fontaine scored the only goal. And just to tell you how old I am. Mark House scored for the Flyers and Brian Rob scored for the flyers. Kelly Akron scored for the flyers. Tell you some. Crazy Oh my God. Yeah. So I mean I want them to come out and play the game that they've been successful at plan and I don't want them to kind of fall into that lull that Philadelphia wants you to do in. You know they've been kind of forcing them to change up their game plan and I want them to out I want them to have strong for check because the four check at times hasn't been there the last couple of days maybe because they're kind of stretch in the island out a little bit they're. You know kind of playing the islanders game almost a little better than they can at times. Yeah. They have They haven't been to create as many turnovers in the offensive end they'd like. There are counterattacking team. and. When you don't. When when another team matches you with with that kind of style play and they're already a better offense team than you are. Not The greatest recipe. So I think you WanNa come out tomorrow and you just you don't WanNa go six minutes before you're getting your first shot on goal. You know what I mean you you WanNa come out and you want to start applying pressure right from the get go. You know you don't want to give this team any reason to because you in Washington it was just. that. Game five was a thing of beauty i. mean it was it was a close to perfect Amazon could have played it to that point. And they're totally capable of doing against this team and of conservatism doesn't play. That's a huge loss I. I mean I. Think I think is GonNa play. Indications. He's GonNa be fine but no one wants to give anything away. But. You know the couture thing. I mean his situation held a lot worse than. and. Barbasol situation Brazil's scary. But I think the type of injury and look it seems to me like it's gotta hit I. Heard it. And that's not something that you know. That's not superficial. NHL Network Radio Today, I was listening a little bit this afternoon on my drive home and you know the thing that stinks for me a little aside is my I mean it's a positive thing but my commute is twenty minutes now as opposed to an hour so I don't get the listen to podcasts on the way home I don't get the listen. To much. NHL. Network Radio Anyway, regardless they had seemed to think it was a neon knee hit with Barzel I mean granted. Okay. Tori a hit Barzel. But like you like I saw him flexing his leg, I couldn't really tell in the Ice Oh when they when they did go back to see what happened to him when they realize it was there. It was definitely his right leg. I couldn't really tell what and you never really know. Obviously, it wasn't a Charley horse because he didn't come back for the rest of the game or over time, and that was in the second period so. Yeah Barzel definitely scary. I mean Elaine Vigneault was quoted as saying this afternoon that he wrote the elevator with him and he looked okay. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't I'd be very surprised if we don't bars off tomorrow not very surprised. I would love for him to be there You know obviously hopefully, he's well enough that he can get out there. He's definitely. Somebody who is a game changer in the PUCK is on his stick it still mesmerizing the watch no matter what he does. But again, like I said earlier, it even seems like for him he goes he circles around the zone I don't know if the ice is just to the point there's been so many games played in Toronto and it's a little warm up there still but the puck bounces all over the place late in the period. It. Seems guys blow tires out all over the place and the PUCK bounces and skips and You know. So that kind of doesn't really help the style a game that bars wants to play. He wants that puck on his stick all the time. It seems like when he's out there Wurley enduring been doing all the things that he does. He's not in a position. To be a danger as far as the score goes. You know what I mean. He's on, he's on the perimeter and he's behind that and find but he isn't getting very many shots and I don't I don't know how many total shots he's having this in this In this series but. They're sitting there putting so many guys on them. It's just it's unbelievable. Yeah. I feel like he had a lot more opportunity to score against Washington Florida then he has got against the Philly. I'm looking it up right now. Barzel. Say shots on the stupid chart I. Don't think it even says it's. Four goals. Seven assists eleven, points, plus seven eight penalty minutes. Three even strength goals nine even strategy. Shot any shot. Here we go. Thirty, two shots. Total for the playoffs total. Lease Tori. Lee has forty seven Nelson is thirty nine. Bo Villa has forty-nine Bailey has nineteen. HAS TO PATIO has thirty two Pollak has twenty six tapes has ten. presario twenty, four, Pelicans nineteen less fourteen. So yeah I mean. Your top six they're all up there but you know you would think I know bars L. is kind of like a pass first guy most of the time. Moore's L. Last night had one shot on goal. You got hurt. You got hurt. Of course we know Let's see. I mean you look at his numbers He his basically got an appointment. and. At least one point in three four. He's at point seven, nine points per game. So He's played fourteen times. It's it's. Just. Under three quarters of three quarters of a point, a game. Bailey's overpowering game. Here go got here shots. Parcel has a total of. This series started. Seven points on. Wow. Seven shots on goal in five games. But the GAL that kind of that goes yeah. You have to go his goal and three assists in this series, but he has seven shots on goal. In the last year is. Last year he had. Eleven shots. Oh. Sorry ten. And he went to and too. So, I mean, we know he has he got to show. He's a really a big. I mean, he's not is he a big goal scorer? We I don't know fleas ever going to be a goal score I mean we know we can pass. We know he's a good playmaker and hell he's a franchise player we know that. But in the playoffs, you need every last score you can get, and that's why we make such like everyone was having ever lease all. He's getting opportunities he's playing well. But at the end of the day, it's gotta be about production. It's gotta be about you know. Not Almost. Scoring or or buzzing or whatever. It's gotta be about actually putting it in the goal has to be. You know there have been a couple of posts the last couple of games as well but you know obviously, they don't count as a shot. How many posted the flyers hit by the way they overtime before they scored there's too I think they hit too. Yeah. Crossbar off. Yeah. Crossbar and I think they said it was the outside of the posts a lot of the key. Yeah. Yeah. Know. I mean we sound we sound we maybe because we're tired but we sound like we're a little down on this but I'm optimistic about tomorrow I really am I mean I think i. Wasn't very try very anybody other than Donald Trump's coach. But But I just have a feeling about you know he's going to have them ready. I have no doubt. You know the best part. I. Think the reason why maybe I can relax about this is the only game six. So they legitimately have two more shots to close this out. Do I want it to go to a game seven? No does the NHL maybe wanted to go to a game seven. Sure. There hasn't been one game seven the entire playoffs yet. Right hasn't even a game five I don't even think in the play in round there was all game four sweeps pretty much everybody got swept or almost swept. I, believe there could be a game seven. In Colorado Leaves Dallas late second to one. So wouldn't that be that that game is that game five or six? I think it's game six. Yeah, there could be a seven there could be seven there. It's I don't want to get too far. I obviously don't want to get ahead of myself, but the idea, the idea of the islanders potentially playing in the conference finals is just. It just it just speaks to the. To the state of the franchise, I, mean, all the things that we've been waiting for for so long. You know they are in a very good place. You wish the roster maybe was a little younger. But. All in all I mean there's really not a hell of a lot to complain about the way I viewed as they win tomorrow or if they win a game seven. Tampa Bay's the house money series. Totally House, morning series they will have improved. You know. As far as advancing in the playoffs last year. And You know I don't know I. Don't know how the match. However, matches what works for them going forward but. I mean I have a little bit on Tampa here and I don't I don't. You know obviously I didn't want to go too far ahead of ourselves but no, I know I I'm just trying to speak about the just the general general mood I mean I don't WanNa talk about like chances of winning or any of that stuff. But now you WanNa just win tomorrow and get it over with len then we'll deal with the rest later but exactly exactly. They do it. They have scored as many goals as the. With forty six and they've the islanders have allowed the least of any of the remaining teams at twenty six. I think Tampa Bay lightning have lead in a little bit more obviously they've played. A couple of less games but. You know they're right up there in the islanders third if you look at the remaining teams. As far as all the stats in general. So I mean they're right up there with the upper echelon teams in the Vegas Golden Knights and the Tampa Bay lightning so they're up their. Their offense has been impressive. For their by. Their. Standards. I mean. You know they're they used to planes title scoring games but you know they have been very opportunistic and it's they've actually done a really good job when it comes to generating offsets the pressure last game. They had like I mean midway through the third period they had like thirteen shots and then they went off. You know what I mean. 'cause they desperation Senate, the ideas can play with that desperation. You know when the game was tied or when you're ahead. Don't wait till. You're falling behind tap tap to play that way, right? Because you're going need that extra goal you need. Extra goal. That's exact. But I don't know if that's the mindset that Barry Trots has I don't think he wants them to go full out offensive operation there. For long stretches like they're very opportunistic team like you said before. So if they're gonNA get an opportunity to have a little bit offense, try to get it when you can get it capitalize off their mistakes. The problem is. When the problem is when the team doesn't that you're playing doesn't make that many mistakes themselves whereas your offense GonNa come from, you have to now generate those chances yourself. If you're going to. If you're going to say Barry, you know my my want them to hold something back. Then you have no excuse not play extremely sound in your own. True. Would you agree I? Absolutely. You know. But then again, there are defensive minded team and you know it's defense I in it's a team defense into layer defense. It's it's pretty much everything. You could possibly wish for you know just like football defense wins championships you know in hockey as well. Google, goaltending obviously part of the defense which the islanders have gotten great goaltending their team that is flush with the goaltender that you grace you can throw him in there cold you can throw him in there. You know whenever you need him too and he's going to perform and with Varlamov he's been a completely different goaltender in the postseason than he's been in the. The sixty some odd games we saw we saw earlier this year as much as they kind of went one one be back and forth. Yeah. Grace was wonderful. The only right. He was just phenomenal. The mean left him out hang awesome hanging a few times and he he build them out big time. But again, it's what I was saying before it's just in their good offensive team, but they're not a shutdown defensive again. They're not limiting your they're not really limiting so much the the opportunities as they are. oftentimes relying they having the confidence in the goal tender's to have to make saves. Well. What do you think? You know we're going to try to wrap it up here. What do you think? Is the most important thing aside from it I know we talked about this coming out, set the tone early getting a couple of shots on goal. What are some of the keys? Do you do you think? Are Imperative that the islanders accomplish in order to kind of close the series out tomorrow. Well what would you say? You said I. The things that you said that we already understand that have to be. You gotta come out you got to set the tone by getting your shots-on-goal early can't. You can't wait ten to the first. Yeah well. They got I think they should score score first of all. Let's let's not give Philadelphia. Any reason to think this thing is going any further than Thursday. You know what? I mean. Score I tomorrow. Let's see how Philly reacts to that. And you know you want even powerplays been bad. It's still generating opportunities for the most part. Let's stay out of the box. Let's stay out of the box. I think for me to and this is something I said on twitter I'm nervous that drew got his first. I'm nervous that Vm van reunite got his first. Niskanen got his first You know I wanted these guys to stay off the score sheet for them. You know but correa going down enabled vigneault to. kind of shuffle his lines and he kinda puts stuff in a blender and found a couple of things at work granted he that he didn't stick to those lines. He went back to you know what? He's been using all series long. Makes me nervous. You know you gave them confidence by allowing them to win in overtime. Again, you gave them confidence by skipping some of these guys off the Schneide you know and kind of getting past the islanders defense by getting sticks on pox that are shot from the point. So all those things make me nervous in that you know this is going to be more confident team tomorrow going into game six than they were even game five and you always expect the team to come out balls to the wall. When it's an elimination game you know, and this is another elimination game which kind of makes me nervous right? Can they match the intensity of the team? They'RE GONNA play? That's the thing. They haven't had to be desperate. Yeah. Well maybe they ought to treat it as such tomorrow. And I'm sure that's exactly the message that varies sending to the guys you know and. I love watching? These zoom meetings you know on the off days in the postseason you know the post game rather the policies were in the postseason Mike come on. How calm everyone is it's Kinda. Insane. Like these are guys. I know that you know and you know as well as some of the other people out there I've been around hockey players in in situations you know when I you can see they're just. Always kind of calm aside from when I covered the team and they were absolutely terrible and nobody wanted to really talk to you but that's another thing. You know two things you you're asking you're asking for what else do I wanNA see tomorrow. I WANNA. See the aisles. Get. Get, there get forward get people out to the point. Get in the way. Of these defenseman taking shots. I WANNA see Philippe Myers winding up with nobody near him. Just, like the goal scored the other night who took the shot from the point. That one of the game who? To Trust. Selected in. Pro Her up broke rob. Okay. Let's get out there and put pressure on them on the perimeter if possible you know and at the same time, let's clear the form the NEDAL better. Haven't been able to really do that and like you said when you open the show tonight. and. They're causing havoc all kinds of housing in front of are. We. GotTa find a way to. have him be able to see the puck better from a distance? All right. Well, I guess we're GONNA find out soon enough we got less than twenty four hours until game time. and. Win Loser draw going to be a fun night. It's GONNA be exciting. I know I'm going to be stressed out I I will probably break my own rule because I was trying not to have any alcohol this week very unhappy. Very. Unhappy with my weight so I'm trying to Get down to giveaway. Tomorrow's my Friday brother I. I'm all Fridays Saturdays tomorrow night we got about. SMART I. It's the only way. I'M GONNA bill a handle this one because i. and. There are times when I walk I mean I'm sitting here watching his games and. It's just there's nothing like qualifications just so so racking you can't believe it. It's just unbelievable and people people who are. Not, hockey fan to watch casually. They said all the time like my God. You know how do you guys do Yeah. It's like this. This is what it is. It's just the most intense thing you're gonNa Watch. It really is and the only thing I you know in the in the said this before the league is doing such a fantastic job with these bubble cities in the presentation and including fans. Boards with their their cheering the team on by zoom and everything like that really has been fantastic and the way they covered the seats to kind of make it seem a little more enclosed and everything I love being able to hear the players chirp and call out and I know it's on tape delays you're not really going to hear. Some of the lesser positive things that are set on the ice but as a hockey player I know what's being said so it's that's why haven't. I haven't watched any of the NBA. Probably will going forward but I'm not really really my thing for the most part but. I can speak when comparing how the NHL. Conducted this and how baseball has. I watch baseball games and. You can tell. At these teams. They don't perform up to their capabilities because they don't have fancy and stamps you can. You can just sense it. It's. It's very calm. Very it's. It's just not the same whereas hockey. It's the same intensity. Regardless, it is the same these guys are going. BALSA. Walls. And I don't think it's any different than what it would be if there were twenty thousand people screaming. You know I I don't know if I agree with that one hundred percent because. Thanks you've got. You've got. A bunch of the islanders and even buried trots have said it felt like during the playoffs at the fans were right on top of you and he would have to scream and yell and in his post-game he would have no voice because he was yelling so loud. So you know in a situation where maybe like yesterday when the islanders were Kinda struggling early in The period, and if it was a home game man, the fans would have got on them. They would have made them rise up. They would just taken that energy and converted it into something special on the ice in the end. That's like the current amount sports in general is the crowd present. It could be it could be the way it's presented on television to though. The way it seems on TV I often watch these games than I. I don't even realize the fans aren't even there. You know because they've done such a good job with the production values. You know bring in the goal horns bringing in crowd noise is knowing exactly what crowd noise to queue it exactly the right time. It's just I just think the way they've done it. The whole thing is just been exception. It really has I I'm just I'm happy that they're sportsman. We went too long with nothing. So depressing, you know the only positive thing about this whole entire shutdown is at it happened during the change of seasons from winter to spring. That's really the only positive thing. Yeah Yeah. Anyway man predictions. Sure on new predictions, the skull. All right I think the owners are GonNa wrap it up tomorrow night I. Think they're gonNA. Win. I think they're GONNA win three to one. And I think that it's not going to be as. You're racking a game is most people think I think that is going to have them coming out tomorrow and it's GonNa be. They're going to be going to be in it from the beginning. You're not, GONNA, lose track of their game. They might from here from here and there but for the most part I think you're gonNA, see. Similar to what you saw in game posted. For Game, five against Washington. I'm hoping executions. I'm hoping they come out. They do what they did in game. One. And Varlamov Kinda. Shows back up and we got a three nothing shutout. Wow three nothing. All right I'm going all in on pushing all in. Scoring. Every hatrick. Yeah. Short guess we'll. Say. Goals in one day now. Lee. Patio. I'm going to say pool. Lock. On the power play real walk on the power play. All right. I'M GONNA. Go with I think everybody gets one tomorrow. I think Zeke is gets one tomorrow. And A defenseman don't know. You know Pella has looked fantastic. May maybe he's he's He's he's he's he's quickly becoming. It'll be called elite defender. He's not becoming in the legal tender it'd be weird. and. I imagine that. Our Buddy Long Daddy. All right. Me Too me too. I'm going crazy at work. Then you know the schools are trying to open and they got a million things and there's only three maintenance guys. So we're. Stretched thin but I get pulled one hundred different actions but who doesn't at their job, right? Yeah, I mean I it's been ever since March I've been doing nothing but. CORONA VIRUS AND Police reform and You know I mean there's there's very, very few feel good stories out there right now from a local standpoint, the islanders can be one they are have been one and just imagine they pull it off tomorrow. You know I it's exactly what? Any town or any any city needs at this point. We'll New York needs all the help it can get right now but that's a story for another day. Isn't it? You gotTA brother. Jeff I appreciate you coming on as always. We need to do this again here before the end of the play offs whether we do you know. An end of the round or into the next round hopefully into the next round. So we'll keep in touch. Let's figure out a way. Let's figure out a way to get a get a third person in here. I will do my best you. All you knew. Ladies and gentlemen. I had A. Little. Bit of an issue with audio this more of this morning this. This afternoon and it took me over an hour. This might computer. There's going to be this is going to be an ethics editing job but. I don't foresee myself going to bed before midnight because it's It's already what are we? What we just we just moved for forty five minutes for an hour whatever wasn't the show is gonNA. Be. In. Ten. Minutes Law. Nat is fine. I'll even leave us talking over each other because it's just reality. Anyway, he is Jeff Capellini you could follow him on twitter at Jacob G. L. J.. He's A very, very, very, very, very, very good friend of mine. He's also somebody who I look up to in his taught me a lot in this industry and has become a very good friend so Foul him get him to have we trying to get you to ten thousand followers. Followers every single second the because I I don't shut up saw while you're also very You know. You. Have a very funny way of talking about the New York jets and the New York Yankees. Well he he? The Yankee people you know that's just. That's that's not really I I'm just a fan you know whatever. But when it comes to the jets I, mean I gave up I I've given up. So I'm you know I'm done I'm Pr- I've been done for quite a while that's broken my heart more times than. I care to care to talk about. So it's almost like it's not worth wasting all my energy on twitter to talk about that. Because they have, the new. The new girl here that that's GonNa Steal your heart because the islanders are GonNa win tomorrow. So Bright, so Hope and then then we can get together and talk about how they're gonNA. How can take down. Tampa Bay. Right on brother. All right. Well. This has been the islands faithful podcast. Again, it's been episode forty six I'm your host Michael Sherline follow me on twitter at House blogger can follow the show at faithful aisles. We are available wherever you stream your podcasts. Go Subscribe Rate Review go out there. Tell your friends comment on facebook rate us on facebook page as well as his podcast. Tell all your friends, tell your family and most importantly. Let's go.

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#729 - Matt Fulchiron

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people would say why we're GONNA have a fourteen hundred seat I got a house in college bosses she got a Butler's the whole thing Louis Guy I wanna stay there came a couple pictures are brought up rig ingram and I looked around train is leaving for Australia every two minutes books your books at who books yeah you know so when you walk through you have to be prepared not that it's a pain going to beat it with a group of eight from work 'cause it's Tuesday night there's going to be enough people down there And usually I get like ten surprise the rounds fucked you all night long right saying about cosmic share but just would abroad in general doing a ball equally lewd and Doing stand up comedy you Miss California a little bit long have you been gone I've been gone for a year and a half that's it that's it to you yeah but and fucking and sucking yeah when I was twenty one at six bang it right in the eye and I didn't come quick then it was like minutes that's forty eight minutes a fucking 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them right you get lost in the crowd -ly not a chance magaz- can't be choosy yeah it's a great pain job he was telling me that the only sacrifices his I have to get up two days a week at four in the morning and take the up getting drunk with Luis Gomez you know what I'm GonNa fuck this right but like for me I wake up and Williamson that's overwhelming it is it's it's for him sold up jammed from he's got to sit in the hallway and then some guy comes up in Singapore I see you in podcast Kabira that's awesome the hallway was completely empty so let me go I was on the Hilton fucking therapy ago am I happy I fucked and followed through the fucking canceling was fucking happy so you just learn little things every day man that's yeah that's a lot nicer I know what you mean when you go there and there's if you don't want to you can take the trains and buses I'm hearing more more more and more people I think are smart people telling me Awake but not really they have purple lights yeah have when you connect there there is a walk of death that is underneath the airport that you better be in welcome to the hotel is trying to throw a Mountain Hotel Improv right the whole province shake about my flight was delayed Oh shit doc and then he got in and I just okay we're not gonNA die and I went back to sleep I don't know if you remember that or not easy to Philly there's no train from Atlantic City New York unfortunately so dude we never talked about this remember when we I mean this is the comedy store this is what is so enough about the communist what's going what you brother I am living in New York and I'm traveling around the world on the way to the airport and the train station in the Limo and it just pulls off on the side of the highway and then our driver gets out to go to talk to the guy and then yea he goes I just took a train got out and walked the block yeah that's it always drops you off right in the city no matter where you need to be yeah I'm like really it's really scary and you don't really know it to urine Detroit airport that's the airport that lets you know you're in a twilight zone booh-booh to wherever you need to go back and take the train back my friend's husband just got a job in Falcons and was unemployed for eight months you can't but one of my worst nightmare is at eight o'clock my phone ring one of my friends say what time leaving for the storm like I'll be there by nine thirty he gets out of Limo and starts walking towards Harlem Oh do you remember this and we were both like what the fuck is this what the fuck is this we're both going to pop up yeah I don't remember Toy Ford it was de last night not calling a man who was about to call you fuck train down everybody goes listen two hours on the computer there's Wifi yeah you're not driving you're not cursing yeah yeah so I really enjoy it yeah like Joey what the fuck you went on for three auditions last week I don't get up and last week was last week bitch kept me something yeah which are not really grasping even if you try and coffee and whatever that's I don't do like I used to have a bad habit of getting up and I always believe that I mean I gotta be honest because I must leave balls about this I always believed that I lost a few jobs because it might be the last week yeah I was the onto the worst thing I would do is get breakdowns ah it's the walk of death have Nia and that's what you realize you and a fucking while I don Rab in the morning you wake behavior in those days and how aggressive I was but I would also not be able to sleep if I wasn't that aggressive right yeah what is the what is the media was this weird scenario we're on the side highway yeah yeah yeah they got caught but the Guy Gordon even say a word to us he just got in the car he was wearing must it was the weirdest fucking thing to happen five in the morning do you remember this we didn't know what was going on we both go what the fuck the lead the superman four hundred pounds the Jevon think about that whether it might cocaine mine I should have read for sure you know Eh right you know book listen to some music they issue it bong hit and then make you 'cause yeah I would get up and whatever recall and people get off the phone I'd say Faisal out wrong not fully awake get some coffee was the fire day yeah then the next day I think I dropped you off at the Philly one yes not a homeless person I was scared for his life yes I like they did not involve me but knows days I kind of took the blame for it and on though forget he had a project that was I thought we were pulling up on Mike what those places like Congress we're rolling awesome make the loop and I'm like well he's going to vote for something that's the worst thing figuring out you were right for about a million projects you've right for about a million but you don't know why they're not calling you win right refused cashmere region and town name Rick Gado and I did a movie from an a couple things happened on the set that should missile am what is the middle ground because you can't just sit around but then you can't intimidate or Overdo it with people to get annoyed with you go yeah I remember being at that was you still going on IMDB looking for names and numbers and you like back fulltime battle quality rate ah you don't when you're up at five of the five down and you got a better one very yeah you're really just walking on a cloud I really want to go to Philly a five in the fuck are more yeah all you've taught because the bust in New York sucks but it's rained from Philly to New York Pat Right I love Mike so you could call me and you know it was a little upset with him now he never put me in nothing but that's what that they will heartbroken because they're like why'd you wasted time 'cause they hired him you think without an audition day already know already had them yeah they just write-off sitting and watching you for a week keep Lee happy eh find somebody yeah doing great legal already all all those ranked repea- streets I saw I fucked one up to my no disrespect I sent you eighteen envelopes you know exaggerating yet but I'm just I get the point in those days I would get unleash the agency nine one like what the fuck I haven't gone two days right you're right when you're writing some aren't you writing it with somebody in fucking mind course okay then then what the fuck are you talking about when I'm writing is what pisses me off right it's that commercial with mayhem they made two hundred people REEFA two hundred regular people like me you and Lee not somebody I already signed somebody right but part of the casting SAG program you have to have some make when you write something if you're the go-to fuck in two hundred south of the Bra and I knew like three guys that went to the callback yeah when they saw the guy that got hired they'd be eight submissions and I was getting them I was so addicted like by addictive personality from cocaine had become I knew I would hello mush about Lee right I sold a show to Fox yeah motion my telemarketing office was leaked right that's it I was based off Leah they have somebody in mind yeah mayhem the guy I had for I had a guy called something I gave him like a prison name Nick detoro right nicktator this is when I go down and look at last Tuesday I went down and it was a kid I went to third grade witness yet yeah a girl with the high school with the visit me when I was fucking awesome you know perfect for the pay was perfect in the row was perfect and finally I go to the farmer's market Hollywood on Sundays yeah by cold acting work at that time no no I decided to attack acting yeah because I couldn't open a door and calm yeah couldn't get a manager couldn't get an agent was already blackballed in this town yeah I was a coat and a stall com yes dirty on our rogin caused problems but you were getting Roger Office Sixteen Times I'm perfect for that role he goes to jared at the director had a nephew that was perfect for the role of that's what character wasn't GonNa be neck no I don't know if the the network will say no right that's what people don't know yeah you could write for people ever went to Montreal nobody ever talked about nothing right but I'm doing spots at the store so something's got to be that something's happening some talent you got some ability nobody's church what's happening now is brought to you by my bookie let's what's going into the flock and hurricane what going into major hurricane money the allegations metal case for Jackass three for it was for some folks and you eat you submit for this I want I didn't shouldn't you could submit aw you know you'd read the Shit Yeah I'll never forget I read for one and I actually read it and went wow and I actually got the call for it and I was like what and it was like a a commercial with alligators and you will go actually go into a ocean like river shoot this and to look like Johnny Walker so getting the breakdowns it pissed me off because every right and go this is gone on a what's it GonNa did a star is born Bradley who rally coupe I could write a role for Bradley Cooper that doesn't mean Bradley Cooper Pan It's exhausting and ride down scroll and they're looking for midgets fucking billion swallowed talking to me right so in my mind let me open up a different door let me open up the acting doors yeah take an acting classes talking the actors they told me about this thing called the break there was no way they were gonNA look music there was no way my dough is going to be open as a comic this is twenty years ago he's talking about the two thousand five for Jews itself Oakland Asleep I get the only Jew that can't fuck and fuck and sell but I love he's like my God nephews or what the pilot when you write you already walk me that you don't know what's going on with that project of course now directors thinking about something to produce his thinking about somebody they put it why they put it out to me AAC right so are we thinking that Bradley Cooper turned it down and somebody else looks like Bradley who pretended Switzer's character I gotta make them a garbage man the college young I know his father his mother made me take them and he's not a salesman right and I read down like what type of Julian fine you say right from it you could call your agent and bill rate that's what you do you tight the intimation down and when you agent gets the work the first email don't don't blow it up in a bad Oh yeah so I'd wake up the next one in Cali agents just unravel autumn a matter how come on doubts we can't him but not supposed to know more than I met somebody who loves you on Austin in theory mowing train them on so I would wake up with six she got up at six and it would be one hundred four or five pages that hundred sixty pays breakdown right you gotta sit there with glasses yeah dope book sometimes I'd sleep now doing coke is that when you start waking up early I know you like to wake up but that's that's just too fucking more yeah okay Alden let the message what happened with this stadium return with this there's nobody answered now I gotta go to work right now I gotta get an envelope put it in drive down Joe Dias what you want this is what you submit before today a call you Wanna now and I would call it and go ahead with this we call tone you have a friend that you've been ten years everybody has a friend that was a comic Nah gave up and became an an agent right and the ends up in lit talking time I heard something that was very interesting wants to me I heard a casting directors job was to find the right active ledge I see him yeah she got the script below American Gangsta I was just reading some you on the man AH quickest most efficient way that turn me around at that time as an actor I said well they're looking for me I got to present myself right and sometimes you don't but that happens anyways but yard bro I dropped off on Tuesday what the tape they wouldn't see me came into the office yeah you follow me I do there's always you know when people always go to having the hardest time by an agent have you been down there give it to nobody else I won't just send it them they do that all the time right so I will get those scripts look group and send the package that's cool and sometimes you get it end up the pile yeah and this is what everything what doesn't what well if I'm gonNA spend my wheels in that direction why do I want to spend in that direction I wasted yeah but if he was sent the submission he would've seen that receptionists in a pile he's not you know literally or if you try not to end up in the pile right so you have to do things that I was there because of Adam okay I wasn't there because everybody agreed Gotcha and then once I got on there back he was a good look right and you gotta do stuff I ran back there and told them you gotta see this guy he's Hoti Spanish three yard sign right now I sent referrals down yeah sorry we gotTa get twenty five members of your going to five Monday five Tuesday five Wednesday it has an office and like a cast that main offices and then when they get called to do something I M B C They can't you from NBC okay or innovative on with the coloring book they got no juice right you know they got no juice to get me any so I got to create my own juice methods way there because at least you have contact right so you mices person you could be with reception right God forbid she watches the Joe Rogan gotta believe me having to me I was taping live at Gotham for comedy central I spent all my money just getting from JFK to midtown and then they asked me for the hotel the incidentals to the airport yet I'm thinking we're going to lax headed the fuck in Van is a private jet Yeah you know I got fucking twenty dollars I'm like I got nothing luckily my friend who was also taping live with his dad and he had tons of money on his credit card and sleep indoors that night but that's so weird Assu you know but she don't WanNa Devil's advocate yeah he goes you take the subway what's his name John wicks paper subway are they bad money down at say fucking job right so those days in those days they will be a large amount large fucking loaded I always want to keep my ear to the ground right now so it's really nice to take private got a fucking bio I'll okay an envelope full of money no no who had I think I'm looking for a job for tape. TV It's the weirdest business I've taken Greyhound buses and private jets in the same month several times with you know it's nutty shift to this is what what do I get down there and then I started putting auditions on tape for them already yeah Mike for pre production mhm so you just believe in a dry that's a fifty fifty just leaving it somewhere you'd leave it under the door Gotcha zip under the door if there's a receptionist you have I'm this that so the first set of posters are meant yeah once he got arrested that they want me to see too much so he took me out of the post that's one the ghetto you know and as long as you know that going in listen I take Uber Ex I I wake up some daughter Salome thirty did you did you create chaos on the set or did they just like you for shit for dumb reasons anybody but he good to me I love over onto the planned ride no more the scheduled run they fucked you over that's not my old Ziprecruiter you know what I'm saying I fucking pop up you gotta find your old candidates well I'm a candidate for this you might not know because I'm not with CAS jets and all that stuff yeah but you always end up on the ground venture always you know as I told my man Reno Dow and back the a good to people yes yeah America belly a terminal and the bus no ex- yes brother that's that's that's worthless but not New Mexico but once we got a peer you throw only hide a problem for so long comes that yeah I know you come in and your bags on the it twenty nine all right because Lee's life so you have to go to a terminal and then take a bus I don't give a fuck yeah when I went to New York shoot that movie I became like platinum rugged all these fucking weird dangles like twenty five dollars off if you get this visit and you never gonna I know a kid walkner three hundred ahead Sean you're next on scene they signed up so I'll tell me right you gotta do it was a chain take the bus imagine how big the lines are going to be the way for the bus so I've walked onto lax property before that's guy I just walked there you are again the poster I am in the Post not that post whatever you're on the planet that well that movie came big pussy got arrested for domestic that lax at night is unfair only lax is your hair along very well after six o'clock during the week and I heard Sunday night Ed's GonNa be a lot but see we're talking from a consumer side yeah which have to be honest with you a less you fly into lax zola fuck lax altogether now other people saying that what they should do is make a site in where the cars right across the parking garages to put yeah it was one a day JFK Burbank Burbank. Jansky you don't have meant it just don't have meant so wait why can't Uber Lax because they're going to drop you off Thursday Friday they don't WanNa see nobody watching anybody on Friday no we're not even myself you want so you bring it down Monday is it wasn't that the movie you showed up on and you're completely broke you had like thirty five cents in your pocket and then just all this you will love and the per diem first day yeah but I would find that within Bain and I would hit their main offices promise at the main offices there's no receptions ask but it's cheap and I kind of like better than waiting for a taxi if I'm in the mood let's put it that way you know by the way a new travel the circles the terminals they're going to guarantee you that you had determined every three minutes and all that does no good that's no good good they fought that's not good they cancelled a charge you like five dollars yeah the value waiting for the airport and I got a call again yeah you mobile step that happened to me adjoin yeah it's always fun. ATM Card Yeah when you get to a hotel you gotta give them a whole town yeah gas called road heads ruin came out today it's all about this stuff yeah it's all about traveling and traveling with no money which I've done several times story the other story is to function produces at the end of the movie ripe will be out in yeah give a fuck I still had the original ones from me and him Tran- that takes you to the subway subway home regular subway people look it's it's a pain in the yes it's a pain in the uplift really that lasts convenience store American airline terminal and was this before nine eleven this was onto one of those things take Moore's Turkey Swiss Sandwich and there for two days I'd take a rocky mountain post what he calls New York Toyama Lead Times out of Terminal Forty eight forty nine American That last convenience store I just went to the airport little right walkout for years I still jump behind the counter to get the cigarette Denver one time yeah when I went to trying to catch a flight somebody's coming to get me for twenty minutes and then they cancelled when their one minute away I'm like now I gotta start from scratch my mom starting Monday I wish that Uber Lax not exist wow I'm burbank all day so I am worried about jet blue yeah so burbank king like this day when I got that Yeah I think at twenty five dollars and I gave the limo driver five they sent to get me to the table right then straight in early you know horse yeah nine the long you gotta see that looks like that again over yeah and the taxis they look like blue for Frontier Airlines Oh my God which was completely my a nightmare no kidding when I I was supposed to audition food wise this idolize that they I went to the audition didn't on their and that's too I remember yeah there's a nine hundred fifty eight I think it's early right there's two of them yes added another one I basically went to New York Bar House from my friend get a warm up suit for some reason my stepfather game earring that day because my birthday sparkin up now you did that how'd that go got away with I'm hearing from imports. Yeah sweats sweatshirt have to buy about pants and fucking God belts and suspenders Shit Yeah so at that time I was in four eighteen blah years ago okay so about two thousand ten I made it a habit just walking I couldn't afford to eat at the hamburger stand nothing right so I would eight one eight taxes you can't blame him right because I know when I take an old book it's thirty dollars Yeah Yeah forbid I'd take the all blacks twenty dollars yeah at lax they saw the New York Post really for three dollars okay three dollars from newspaper yeah take a fucking Canada so to put it in my pocket on like running across roads I've seen getting pinned for being the Isis just fucking yeah terrible starting Monday you can't take an uber I know it's an hour you'll miss you fly yeah so I didn't I had to do that Newark one night and I fucking almost died and no forget newer uh-huh millions of times it feels like it would jump over counter Denver airport steel pack of cigarettes now that's you go into the bathroom train from JFK absolutely if it's a decent our definitely and it's only like seven seven eight bucks to get all the way home while trailers here's a you get on the air three seventy s some alka sixty and Stay another day and then like the guy would you for your addition they pay for my flight to shoot but the impact my white to the audition right so my buddy threw me out of PAP buddy pass mostly like man I love your show on age wouldn't arrest me if he wanted to write morning this is ten dollars off the works I'll take Mubarak's with ten Puerto Ricans value though you ever get over to even tell me gallon that plan my two bucks I think I what I was something at Newark shoplifted lower but once I got the Denver I had no fucking choice now is smoking correal well yeah I'll call you push into that car yeah walk out taking right very very very very good I love over America's been anybody Dan right you're an avid connecting ill connecting flight yeah you cannot walk out of Denver smoke and walk back right what about Jay. JFK is not great though either JFK yeah but you don't have to take a car out of JFK and get on a train once again the train saves the day ran back outside this has to be two thousand two okay amount side smoke in the fucking number heads on the swivel smoking let's say ten the morning and the only reason why I was going early because they wanted me to radio I just wanted to get a hold time saloon at two when I got off the plane eleven in the morning there was no luggage luggage in Tallahassee though it was one of those time Yeah Oof froggy bottoms transferring Houston I was in Houston and my flight was scheduled for Saint Southwest will give you a two one hundred dollars voucher if you get off this yeah so that whole day I was at the airport were maybe two bucks no phone of you know you pull into Charlotte when you're connecting from Charlotte you're gonNA DC yeah I got bad news fear there's nothing open uh-huh yeah a toilet I put it in a row Gotcha walked out once the dog passed by went back in holly to weed out role in the bathroom it when you travel as a comic and you're working for five hundred a week you gotTa make everything count and the buses ninety dollars yeah you know and that'd be a line of people take that stale Turkey Sandwich with the little side packages a Malay trickle my white the little Axelle fucking so I tend off while Nuba Rex I'm power and everybody in the neighborhood at laps were breathe around one another Kazombo Goto the roach away the cop with the dog has ten feet away from me I gently flick the Roach and I make believe I'm only saying which is it nation our get people thinking of flying on the lax Sunday night. You can't get out of that I know I fly I didn't get my luggage so I got back way she's so that night I slept in the fucking warm up suit Yeah Gaborone and there's data on another buddy of mine I'm very ashamed to say it was hungry man you got to survive amick right and never mind when you start getting on buses I got ours more Food Gimme more beer I don't know why I mean I know I can't put that my atm but I was like just keep it coming I put on tons await he's a couple years ago there's a couple of years all money and I went to the store that was closing so they had gone somewhere in the game day barely half hope right anadromous smoke in the store I smoke like tool in the stall that's the point sanity that's craziness I stood on the going to Lubbock yes cheeseburgers from the club our opinions I was trying to take all my payment and beer and food for a while I blew you know what I mean because I wasn't getting paid enough I'm like me that was walking I saw them walking towards me with the dog had the refer my pocket ran into the bathroom to refer toiler bro Yeah some of those gave me a ring the only thing ever game you have to my mom I was a big old diamond ring And I watering the audition by walnut suit and sneakers going gets out and snort coke and lung right no I'll never forget stain at the airport all day broke because they kept borrow another one hundred and go back to modell's yeah modell got like warmup pants grant wander pounds and there was no genes share I U bs I'm going to stop yeah we stuck in limbo for years yeah finally say to yourself I'm very happy paying rent any yeah however that is right from means I gotta go down to the Hermosa let's Dot Com clubs comedy Magic Yeah on the forget Ralphie beam broke his flock going yet I still only I am and when you break a stay in your fucking bro Fuck Outta here stop it yeah I get it I'll go down sometimes have a spot trauma to the why didn't have the nerve to ask them he had just drove me for free and I'll have the nerve to ask them tell you ten bucks eight something yeah what's up full charge what do you want to eat steak motherfucker Downer got on a comedy magic sometimes I probably shouldn't put that out there now everybody's GonNa be just like some people are sandwiches I got big at that time yes I was very lazy yeah but my die I was only onion rings and going out and you learn about your body and what it can handle I gotta be honest the NF got Pat Benetton night I got so I came home enough could justify the wait hours gaining but it was metabolism sitting on those buses for eight hours and stress can do it too just by the box I'll treat it with your hand there's a point where I don't really know what happened to me because I wasn't eating it the chocolate outside Oh dollar baugh matter Hershey's Bod- not it's not a Milky Way as Babe Ruth hole in your stomach you're ready to should blood but you're fucking ego is like Nah maybe get some late Joe you got it the crazy I I just went looked around yeah reached all right took a pack Marlborough Lights I took a fucking lighter yeah I ran in the fucking I used to have a pager right I would just have change in my pocket if I had a call in Moline card yeah shoplift at those airport now Ken Awesome I'm over you sure yeah made special and you're like I just ate twenty minutes ago eaten twenty days ago wait that fuck and dry cereal waist high quality down there and player Fiji's feed the feed you something night give you something to go exactly which is really read you get to dinners if Yeah Tappan I had to mistakes last week that one that I had double plan other we cannot destroy oh no kidding dude no that's worse than spam I'm not kidding you guys I'm not making shit up here my body shutdown that like sardines when Sir have stress Stress Stress Stress Right quarters body which is bad yeah but you learn all about those things you know from onion hopefully they some of them would have the sausage with the AARP's and crack down the stick that resembled food the spicy form is delicious this month spicy tuna shrimp and as one of the regular itunes from temporal Donald buses will the sleep apnea when sleep apnea came on yeah had that initial year yeah because you re your body's releasing Cortisol search releasing Lee eleven o'clock on at home with no milk even thought about putting water in its own expanding your stomach like that fucking special k Ame Boxes Dry Special K yeah the blue crab spider row rabbeting Shit Yeah you speak my language vitamin D almost killed him last week I gave them the three musketeers three Muscovites some bullshit Davos delicious it's called Newgen new new three of them Blue Crab I put him out in the sun for six minutes yeah always leave rather we were smoking one of those crazy joints breaking out the danger that the cortisol gets you fat and May Gotcha your backs well when you see people with the hunt yeah that's cortisol and that's because they have sleep apnea ahead like that little yeah you know there were no points only two points apiece at like three of those they're fluffy in the middle from the car to somewhere else yeah that's it but it's different when I was in New York I walk it's one right here the boring as fuck another troy my internal add to go back the probiotics had a drink that fucking Shit Kale yeah that's how my body can't handle taste I just got a thousand of those hail yeah but on the way back and then we couldn't they smoked like fucking hours our kid they just have a little area open and you look up and there's a vending machine yeah I know now you're in raises yet you're eating potato chip our Sushi's too many points Gotcha just keep with the spicy tuna six I'm had for months for eating spicy tuna what little look but now he's not starting now she dan couple weeks yeah nice happy hour because I keep a simple now sure Momo combat had a hot dog stand across the street you doctor you got fucking John's across yeah that's a barrel laughs Johns but I've done it why not Alex Hungry I always ask you hungry you always play Hughie y'all with y'all know I'm fine reg really good Nicole cuts like they have like a that ham that are real-life it sells out my lunchtime but the John's always looks are you fish Brian Fall in those days are over family I could go for that happy let's do it fucking day job I was looking at the `fridgerator I usually a protein bar I found my daughter's Halloween candy the year ago the coughing wasn't obelisk win this coughing burn calories doesn't a little bit when he wasn't doing nothing yeah than it was really bad we stopped the park under the fruitful as and walk upstairs and feel feel right ladies and gentleman you'd see a field not happening for Saturday's the most people ever right witnesses because that area isn't a good area no kid anyway was imprisoned more Sardinas than giving him I was eat sardines like it was my island you know and once I got prison might so my fucking saw beans going there you see a fucking ambulance is a Russian Jew going down over there I don't go on my wife goes bread's good the breads pussycat theater is one of the last porno theater still around in the late nineties it was still around I don't now to UC big. I just look up I look up he's sweating profusely deep so you don't go outside that much empire don't bro He hates the son is that right I mean we're on what about that Porno Theater read on Western and sunset but it was actually on western Western and sunset so it's just north of sunset the it they pretend von which is nice I love that John Yeah The ripoff I love the thousand washing people they hit your car every time we go in there before I went to bed asleep with the sugar content but just a three lows Charles Oh yeah feel too good the next wow it's just destroyed my internal combustion system my shit was coming Seattle came out today the Tarshiha is just they have it's that's western Western let me say how crazy worst let's talk about what's up by Western because when I first moved here the pussycat theater was right there I do that Oh yeah you're an envelope down there forget headshot fuck you okay and this is uncle Joey telling my wife she's a sweetheart used to the let's go there at seven and I go live you know that I like walking trying to say I love walking in New York but at least in New York you will you go to a store there's people sitting on the floor yeah so I can't take a moment here right that's an entry level he wrote white person the real deal I get the fuck and blue crab took don't speak English I hate every time I'm going to ask you something by both Russian Jews there's white people can't handle those shoes fun stuff to see here you've got homeless on the corner from me I got home I got home a couple of shitting on my fucking Popeye's chicken yeah so why am I gonNA Walk to Popeye's chicken I used to go to sprint dot Hollywood in Western has thought the lumber you place the hardware right all that and you go in as Mexican the joke that joke fuck in Crete yeah he's right yeah Fou- fullest in Hollywood yeah you gotta be a month ago and at that like it's John rated it always looks like somebody came in and grabbed like Johns and no one Philippa Gazon was that food for less yeah yeah he took to it I look down up as I go on to New York you look you look up beautiful city you look down on a flop and thing if you ever want good Mexican food in Hollywood get about all those cliche restaurants the truck go to the truck at what what's `bout side right and they have a Mexican food catering truck Those Mexicans could not slip because the Mexicans that landscapers and build his wall angry with stab right it's not add Max it's not pretty yeah so one night I go to L. compadres the top coke I'm listening this has to be thousand five okay 'cause I dealt with the two years and I dealt with him extreme situation so this is this guy so jacome he would oldest fruitfulness yeah that was that neighbor that street at the sunset go pass onset at night and see what you see for those next three blocks I just closed a Lotta coat the first ideal yeah he goes if you want to find me among sunset in west no right but equal you know he goes he loaned his pocket pro right outside it's gotta be eight thirty it might this people on the Padre my black buddy de money and I had a John Blazed bartender those Hollywood clubs yes sounds familiar oh c'mon l. compadres with a parking lot yeah he goes miss pocket takes out a coke rock and just fucking puts eh I quit gone coke in two thousand seven two thousand four like I said sometimes you don't need material Brandt but before I could get the meaning a kid came up for me bicycle Mexican life you just have commonly appears in that time how comic came to me and one that I was walking del compadres the back door the COP from the Armenian you start coke from a straw intervene right because when you put your Straw and you knows and then you put in your nose that's how people will get sieg appetite AC- The hap yet talk to me that first time they almost Bonnie Scowl condo like what are you looking for I thought the Armenian was is in my mouth really apply these that's delivery right there to write my nose of this fucking eight with his lawyer HIV finger whatever the fried he put the cop rock and my nose and immediately I was fucked up he goes what are you want what's Graham legal he said so I gave him sixty bucks and no rapid no none he took a bag out at the moment I put my hand chunk on my wow strong thing a thing where you buy sheds then across the street at McDonalds right on Hollywood yes there's a McDonald's behind the McDonnell come through sunset and western I'm always there in a my off your little flashback movie like I heard like that and being Lee Delicious Oh Blah but I used to be they used to be the sprint this a Hawaiian restaurant thing that yeah and next to the Hawaiian different drug abuse nobody knew nobody knew I had tapped Iran. I always had a tab with the money I wouldn't happen Tab with John Blaze I always had a tablet the Armenian but the guitar player though compadres with Gimme a tab yeah so it was nights where you're tabbed up right to deals on the coke for less than Westland okay you've got a mind the cocoa which fly it it's voice I can do it what he's about to lose women yeah you get like a vision of your father yeah obi-wan-kenobi say what spider man I'll go Ben Yeah I don't know sponsor ability what the quick great power comes great I hear you know I hear so I got my car and I went to St Pass Western on silent Hollywood boulevard what made it right yeah on the sunset hi it's Nice so those days I'd like three or four drugs because I didn't want them to know how much cocoa drew right we don't want to be judged by your daily at Your Media Padre Guitar Plan so what will we talk talk this guy like hepatitis e you it doesn't really matter red light them like okay I look at the McDonalds it's open then I could be closed yet that's why I bought breakfast my wife and two girlfriends like Western with debt comes with more hookup with great power comes responsibility voice whole spider-man's bad drove up now might looking around I don't know what the hell four in the morning that part of town is Kinda empty I get the Hollywood the West night that light I was ah yeah I'm going to pay for this one that I'm sitting there my apartment I'm joking about the jerk hopefully time share we get some more coke and also I heard his hepatitis exactly get titus by snorting coke with our bills Yeah that's all I have hepatitis today they'll get question yes auto mercy was born I got the call four were we're going to go into Labor I stopped McDonald's breakfast like Artemisia yeah is a choice to automation almost I thought I knew I think he knew me who mommy shot okay so as I the beep right or whatever so dog the light changes I'm like the second con the land the light chains and I'm driving but guess what but at the next light is red right at the next corner is a runway who do you think come up to me there's little mice ICAL Yoda Yoda hey how you doing biannual like fifty they give you a little coke thing with no package no none You just be driving home on sunset Lampe coke like oh handful of coca delivery boyfriend Dang Okay but you know that McDonald's yeah across the street from that let you guys know how fucking crazy Hollywood yeah was one of the biggest casting up the fucking car door I he doesn't make sure you're not a copy put the coke rocking you knows our conversation Gotcha there's no conversation officers in this town right that right across the street from that McDonald's look this like a bunch of like Western yes to be so food for us is right then something else right there too that's kind of scary everything over there sketchy but now they're making a shopping mall out of it windows windows rolled up wait times I gave me coconut palm of my hand with not a fucking but that's how bad you come here you find the fucking money Paloga so right there by sunset we just pulled over on his bicycle he came round open in the whole fuck of the also yeah Mike Enough I should make noise are- think like who lived at twenty years ago new Walter was going to do a movie fuck in the director you know sell your kids those type of buildings get alone tonight Aso your daughter to the Mexican cartel right and then there's like a little house that's very red but the final callback was at the house I remember going like attend the morning right like why is it and that was early eighties early nineties that's funny because last night they had less than zero on yeah and they scroll through different places of Beverly Hills and from Drugstore Cowboy Fan Santos Fan San will go to a movie about us a singer us to stand up and we all we went to the studio I that accomplished like if you've got a cold on your nose you can't be a cop if he puts it in a new snorted he knows you're not coaches mind Gotcha who would give you a little taste wow can watch cheers and joy how old L. is they had a scene in la by that that clown liquor store it looks the same yeah no those places of Beverly Hills the one they scroll through Hollywood I saw Hollywood neon that's all I remember right but this hey scenarios that show twenty four Jack Bauer go from like Simi Valley to Venice Beach in fifteen minutes you know he'd be all over the place that's an errand seventies I think and all the small everything I ended up reading that book after before the movie I didn't see the movie when it came out I read the book I Yeah Swat when they were shooting Swat I lived in that neighborhood I don't know what the last one they just shot have you like Oh my God that's still there yeah the one with Valley Girl Right Valley girl or really kill you genres like gay and lesbian and I was like all right and he just seemed like really weird with me after that we were like boys until that moment I like when you watch lethal weapon the first lethal weapons Larry's that's maple had lived it yeah he's on schrader and Tumulus lay that he's fighting yeah and then I didn't see the movie until like the year two thousand or something so you when you read the book was the movie yet yet a movie has been out forever and the book is nothing like the mobile are loaded the book come out before the move I really don't know but I don't think it was that long I remember I rented that topples fuck and Golts in Venice I'm saying yeah they have tons of money but I watched the movie and I was thinking cancel my spot the story zero she beverly hills the Yuma what's the beach what's the Beach Zuma beach where's where's Adrian. I said Yeah until he started on the figure fifty thousand dollars and then he went to his friend Andrew McCartney Goes WanNa yeah when they did the Boston people escape and all that riots so it's really weird when you live on the east coast you'd never come out here yet the best in Guatemala helicopter when you watch Pretty Woman Yeah Watch pretty woman will die when they go down our boulevard I finally did rent that movie it was like it was a weird thing with my video store clerk I was like hey where's less than zero WanNa Watch that movie and he's like it's in the G. L. Section and he's like looking at the Table Two thousand five the Irish on the corner of Co they shoot that Wilcox look at the sign that's Wilcox Boulevard I live right around the fucking the name under the one day it is impossible it's impossible and when he goes I'm going to go ahead from account them off on vine yeah what are you anywhere near thirty now forty ground forty probably is the guitar player Edmund Down which is funny because I actually did read the book believe it or not and they mentioned traffic in that book a lot I think is when traffic was starting in the eighties like L. A. we'll start to get out of control and the unrealistic fuck and world a Beverly Hills wet the first Christmas parties two hundred. TV's at Christmas they just have people dancing this is just four ounces at a time so listen though stressing outlet this movie was stressing me out yet because now I'm seeing what reminded me of me at that yeah you don't less than Zero's Moby benefactor kills a junkie he's got he lives in I'm just thinking about it right though this one guy forty I owed her partner is twenty discuss this is why I had to get out of the house last yeah because we started talking about on fifty thousand dollars I still it's time that I went into a room Walton no shit go all the studios should I bet there's never an actor that right I come to the haunted house and the guy that turned me on the movie was a big time coke head who smoked when I went to his house to do something he goes hey and I oh dear friend another I was DELIMA NERVOUS G Thirty Thousand Dollar League Yeah My team eighty six m twenty that's insane you can't fucking imagine I can't he had borrowed money for restaurant movie wanted borrow right if the thousand four a restaurant to open up a business summit failed this was I would just go to I watched the movie and he's got the shit around has gone to these sweat was father's house a just last night disturbed me Oh yeah the change it ain't broke don't fix that whole block is violently yeah yeah that's scary all drunk that whole block looks the same from one thousand nine hundred ninety that's a lot of money how do you how long does that take Rosco bizarre interest was but I was front the quarter unrealistic yeah but it probably does happen these sons of movie stars right you know there's no parents around other movies when he went back to his house he wanted to a gym never and then all of a sudden he thought I was fucking weird to God that turned me onto that movie like I would have liked those type of movies I don't like those Holly Yeah just because we you even track of what you owed or was he can try yeah I knew my mind was going to see the right mind the is Oh yeah that's exactly what hazy shade of winter and I was behind a hundred grand cocaine money you got robbed two weeks ago I just didn't have the heart yeah you gotTa make me start over again he would give me another half holy shit it was the the bullies from karate kid yeah yeah yeah Zappa out of the main guy I forget he was or is it Afaq whatever again next on my c up pay that would show up again with the story and they kept giving that I would go back to the end goal is bullshit twelve hundred a piece what's eight times twelve ninety sese six okay so now you gotta give them ninety six hundred dollars let's say you you're what less than zero he goes you got to watch it and he has that shit down to a science to be getting high listening he's get nine that moving right this guy you get a little bit that I know you sell most of it and now you start getting all that cash right it's not your cash sny you're at the county storage what are you gonNA drink lottery no so that refrigerator that's eight dollars a bottle yeah you're doing the whole day and you'll get another case one of those folks is that was big in those eighties is the guy that's driving them then he escapes and he goes but it's weird you ready for this likes to Zuma beach it took them eight minutes there was no traffic in no seen in less than zero was that and there was like eight people on the beach the turn it down get on those days people come up to you can you don't even does coke know why I was going to give you adding go I need that again that would go where's the money from the original I gave without I'm waiting on the front to add to pay for this just give it to me it up not my money and that and how you were supposed to sell k Quigley's fucking vacuum for you the that you're GonNa make fifteen thousand you still going to keep an eye out for yourself to fucking go crazy but guess what you go to the comedy store you give a little bit the tool you got six thousand year pocket K Quigley's looking bad in the motherfucking she's like well I really hang on him nineteen ninety at block still looks to say Laura I'm in the last couple of seasons now cheers one man I went out with four houses coke the guys at what time I let's just go to New Jersey a New Year's eve eighty four eighty five S. that with no panties you going to check out now I'm a stay for another day by the way you've got room service summed up eighteen eggs bacon everything this money I'm GonNa see you tonight for the new yeah that would give me the coca say tomorrow you're not GonNa get it right if you give me a midnight you better get that ball ended use norton how much did he sell all of it he's not at all in a Lee's summit gives you fucking somebody gives you a guide ounces a cup they won't get shipped from me I'm like I would but I'm what this other gag goes now now in your from make follow me home I'll give you half Akilah okay ah I'm this guy had been working this pigeon for a month he had heard all the rumors he was watching me like a hawk right he was giving me an eight ball at a time bent I'm just saying this as just I'd say you bump into cake quickly mainly six dollars worth cocaine in your body and Utah cut on what's going on in this country Walter Vega Van Sant that's crazy man I was I was laughing the other day because I watch a my apply only thought let's go the standard it's not your money but what are you give a fuck it's four in the morning cake quiz you got six ounces of cocaine you gotta call them and say look I got this little blonde appear semi up on the refrigerator because this has gone down right much refrigerator eight hundred men bring one is my mother about six grand a whip up that say and you're GonNa get the best room that stand this quickly two hours to fucking kill race so it's just it's that's how bad we want to Lee hours making money nineteen eighty-six not me I never had more than eight thousand no no no I'm saying that you own a hundred thousand he was on the deck and then one day I went to a bar and I bumped into him in her we get it together they would get a cheaper so I bumped Anton she's like why don't you gatty the more I was in the cottage rescue I never saw that motherfucker again yeah because I was broke right that I don't get table then so be it it always does nobody does a bum yeah once you open up the bump you just walk into Willy Wonka chocolate fact yeah now you got I can't tell you how anxious a ham for you just drop sixties In that whole fucking night you know how many nights I went on so for like three two months abby by the ball with him then New Year's is I thi- tame and I'm going away at five o'clock and I'm GonNa have to give you more on not suspended students merit to your white shirt and he's always been a nice guy but also they started driving a cadillac awesome they go on to Puerto Rico what are they doing a young kid I said listen I'd rather you do a bump on a week delusion right and he goes I can't do a bump and always trying to dollars yes to someone who is not capital one where they call you like hey we want this money it's like they're gonNa they swing a bat at how all these people oh any Barnett facility by three 'cause I'm at one of those balls trying to pick up range coupled somebody take him to a hotel so he would meet me again at two-thirty online pussy on fire you're gonna do everything the hub make a mop talk so what are you gonNa play fucking I can't take you home because fifty thousand dollars he was finally deck that's why I wasn't a sanctuary there would just pick them up and take a drop off the suck Dick they got a blonde next to me and I still got half a bag left and she didn't even know what country she's now you're forty grand in debt in that you're you just dropped six thousand cares about that money anymore bombed into I left mainly six I left I left snowmass I owed the other people get away with stuff like that was just you listen if you don't try it yeah in those days you gotta remember what what what it turned nope it was always your question was how do I walk around how do you feel yeah how today no no no no that day when you check out of the hotel emme that went that night yeah because once you know it's like I told somebody they just to pump you know but in my struggle with drugs this time we'll find and he gave me two houses big mistake Right Eagles call me at midnight house late and I'll call you at the money admendment the fuck announces CBS's just leaving me maybe I was in the being that bag as you fucking and how much of that one hundred and still out snorting outspending my making like it was three different drug dealers at once so how do you feel the people I owed five thousand less to yeah the video store I just claimed that the video cy work that everything up on Thursday I must invited fifteen people to my house for Thanksgiving Day Thursday okay I had this whole thing early and you're gonNA pink dot are you looking over your shoulder or you know not at all so you don't think the house that goes down Jag plus the one you're going to take on the morning and what are you gonNa do in level and they call you Mr Ziad check it out you look old and she's I am forty the chick twenty the other chick light thirty ten people I owed five thousands of that wow the like ten people I would say investment kimmy five thousand seventy five hundred and two days gone right but it was Dan I had this this now in the spring for the whole thing even though I owed eighty thousand dollars on spring of the two thousand yes and I finally got we like thanksgiving of eighty six I just snapped I just snapped at the city markets no Matt I all the Turkey I was supposed at my last investment his Sisto partners on this restaurant called offer it again he was the cooking back fuck at Moma eh about it today because how stupid can you be you know what I'm saying like I had like four or five they couldn't wait but there was so anxious at hold them off yeah like to make 'em even hungry like come on man yeah could be more when miss not on millions Daniel you want to bump then you go on the road and pretty showing us not announce right so now you're gotta cut the coke to make the Prophet back early let me work it all the more and more more no right the last lady at the yeah keep them there's no coming back will you the exception we're not gonNA struggle that we're going to threaten they were going to threaten me you can give me a heart attack and try to talk to me they were not gonNA struggle about okay okay they will audio with thoroughbred okay and you're going to go up there and guess what would what are you gonNa do when you might have some coke on him I want to work that out and one day comes up and he's like hey man get rid of this I have a few friends I know Leeann on Joey yeah talking rene whatever they smelled meal's coming up in Columbia I would just do the speech God I have nothing yeah nothing I barely have food in the fuck out and I would tell these meals walking around with a hundred thousand dollars it's not like capital one wherever they go whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa let's get some straight nobody and nineteen eighty to eighty four it won from everybody having acid there'd be having coke yeah and they flooded the market then people will come to your house or get brother coming up when I get these six kilos can you come up with like four thousand yeah and we'll make a ton of money and I leave him project this I took everything that night would you go back to work or was it the last day they wrote my wife a letter the video people like Christmas like we left Thanksgiving hey how do I invest with the and I held them off he was like yeah he was like the one I was Gonna hit but I held them off and then I worked myself up to a cord but I knew the day was coming I was Gonna get him off God and then the holiday light was motto half ounce and what time I would coke but he leaves you fucking four ounces yeah okay what you going to sell us enable a week but he soon you're GonNa Start doing a bun and either the crazy what the this is yeah and I had all these people that people are paid back there were people they made a lot of money yeah there were people that I are those guys that went Diana Gimme money I knew they were grapes they will always give away that money yeah they couldn't wait to be Nicole sued the guys like that we would thereby coke from me and they would turn their customers and to me like they're friends and they will get sal so much more for so long but he couldn't wait to give me the money yeah like I was going to give you five hundred but I'm willing to give housing hold onto something big comes up I had that same year we played a man I thought about your proposition how about gave you ten thousand on my oh poor Bernie made off of this at the Home Depot or a beep Oh yeah and I'm not trying to be funny I know they have a client Asana yeah oh thing on a bone things naked on a bowman with right maybe apartment hold on we got our just solid Michael Lineup we go yeah I got the when I did the people like I can see why you went to the store last night that's a lot to think about leaving this fucking debt in the past so this is one thousand nine hundred eighty six back to the May give me five thousand and our they had the coke shalt yeah by the time I got back I give them six two hundred sixty five on that Outta here Saturday night we just beat these guys I went to do from Paula France I got him for like six thousand the Sun Oh yeah okay okay I had this bag of pot that I bought for fucking three hundred bucks that looked like it would put minium things up in snowmass weak side there was the battleship and then I used to ice I did construction work at one that had four apartment so is listen man I've had talked fifty people where people calling fee fucking scab and John I said okay apartment all night Wednesday snorting fig ed thanks yeah I fucked snorted or what do you do when you snort cocaine on Mars but did nothing to okay you could smoke if a two hour straight nothing absolutely nothing but it looked tremendous gotcha so the lady in another guy went to fly two thousand they had this bag of pilot bought his bag you even smoke pot back then yourself you just hanging out jerk off I had a girl that would come over suck my Dick Oakland Pussy in Kolkata Teddy okay she was like mad you talking about mayhem so Thanksgiv- Eighty six that Thurs asthma's have big party but that Wednesday afternoon I picked up two ounces of this call when we come back and you're getting two hundred bucks so I would go to his house that's how bad my paranoia was was at his house I'd still go great now let me like what are you talking about the standard I want you to get a hold down get the fuck out don't come back excuse not income all my girlfriend at the time was psych she had host without you or your friends or my friend know Turkey because the So I could start my house anymore okay so I would go to legally leave me alone easily kill him and then give them those ass Turkey all day Friday eleven o'clock you partner Turkey neely that I owed maybe twenty five to the time yeah I was all packed up backed up at yeah that was fucked for them by Buddy Kaye those house and I gave them like Hey Pancho Kahlo you gotta go what am I going to go you'll fuck in doubt six seven cash in my pocket my girlfriend's crying at the how man we've here we had a dog Hercules yeah we had a Mazda a two door I'm sorry go ahead what are you saying I walked in my house Friday morning eleven o'clock in the morning my girlfriend become my which is heartbroken she's yeah I don't get the ball yeah he took the Bonnie disappeared again I stayed got the windows windows take phones on my part I was one of those guys carpet holy Shit what's what's the Guy Eddie what's the fire that broke his fireplace. Oh Tony Ferguson he said there was washing living in his day. bug this place those people my hat you had your hand my hand yeah as she goes you better have my mother go talk to you Dole the keys to all four so I will go into different appointments when the people the tally just not go yeah I was crazy so that whole day pound the weak and I knocked on and they was neely I knocked on the door what's the expression my head my heart and my head yeah my my read looked at twenty four I mean it was terrible right she would come all so it was a two o'clock there was like three or four different con how's the the thing was fucking bouncing from all our clothes shit yeah she's like what are we going to do for Kobe won last idea give me that pound the we I took the trying to sell this okay I'm really working because I found that you all somebody else you know about Jay Ryan Jay was guy out forty I picked the Turkey Turkey from the guys special that guy never talk to me again again for you couldn't kill them talking yeah I could sell you pants that right now my this woman do give me two months coke I given you ship listen to them tiff yeah so I go this you see this here is came Komo why this poem is like twelve hundred dollars this is an addict Oh boo back here in the now with your four thousand dollars yeah she looked at me looked me back and forth I'm trying to make money plus got married and eighty nine got separating nine the nine the one I'm already doing comedy maybe that November feeling bad about myself I go let me go up to ask so four years lay them Wanna go to a place where a hundred grand this fifty people rush to coke and the keys to my house was leaving anyway so now this is eighty six I will ask them go to bowl the did you drive there dropped the ball from aspirin okay the more I walk it's an outdoor mall I'm GonNa go to get it bowl of stew at the stoop hot yeah on the mall two minutes pissed off at they backed traced and realized what I had the damage I had done yeah eighty three yes shoplifting and and we had like sixty dollars I mean knowing this is how much added that we could have sold an ounce to start a new life right made two thousand dollars muddy water under the bridge he shook the hand he walked away wow we just let you out forty thousand dollars to title she goes when are you going to be back on nine o'clock you I got my car and headed South Jags Holy Shit which is still waiting on the we we just didn't yeah I the mind of an Ad Sheriff Fuckin- So I lived in boulder got arrested eighty eight yeah fucking right and I go to snowmass mall whatever the mall is calling up in the top yeah and there's a parking right there was pies and I get out of the car for hotel stop that's a lot to a line of coke fucking look at each other for a minute and then we gotta go would you get your money back yeah fuck it I had on my mind give me the answers and Gimme the glass shit you give the Russians right Gimme the glass so she's I I mean this coq with us so you just lost that money would just leave wow wow so we did that we got back the bold we finished a coke two days we fucked in the South GOPHERS Utah them it's water under the bridge I know Citibank that Gotcha we stopped at four different hotels checked in checked we were going to a hotel and the stuff due to lines of coke paranoid all this damage I wrote the car and I go to ask and I go let me go to snowmass I the place where actually owed the in lines and holding a gun and watching your door that's so funny that's that's so funny and you but you didn't go to a or anything did you just figured it out would stand up comedy he goes that's great he was going to ask you some what about that money you own brother was drunk open up my heart would beat in a little bit I have a weapon on me I didn't know what was going on yeah we hugged the as knew what was going on I said I lived in Fuckin- old amount and unsticking on my note yeah okay juice yeah I would stick it in my nose I mean ADB this is the sickness yes the mind of an attic right yeah he was a sweetheart of a Guy I call them back on not threes advise the money cool yeah nice the Ms Sixteen fifty and I the Guy Oh forty pounds she eases Christ walks up to this new girl he's like man I doing great this gave him a hug like nothing the farm for the crops throughout last night he's just it's just a sick life yeah it seems like so long ago what do I give a fuck was thirty years ago suck my Dick in call me shorty I was born in nineteen forty come at me up thirty years on your top Nice he was so happy that's great there was some people who I beat that I feel bad about this other people who played the game went prepare for right I don't know where the fuck you've been for the last week but you you you Bilas fucking role in and I'm trying you in Mumbai Liz she goes what's in the bag I go listen I got a problem go really it was horrible horrible wow girl yeah would I put this poor girl to no one let me talk the toilet flushing and in the coke stuck to his silent toilet hotel and meet taking my phone yeah licking right right I mean who would the drug business honestly you aren't prepared to cover the spread right and somebody beach you got fucked and you're gonNA find and that's that you lied open looking cutout off our cab this is how good of a deal I I've got she looking at she's like if you're not back in our with my money I swear to God they people think I was innocent girl smartened up one day said what the fuck was I gone I put poor girl six years out Ah Coca Cola picking up on this day time and I went up to the house it one o'clock on a Friday I was supposed to be playing on sadly morning right I still being in her brother's wedding party and hug leaving on Wednesday go and see a flying into Saturday morning tejinder today's lead man Tuesday she walked in and

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Well, my guest today are the owners of my favorite all time coffee company black rifle coffee probably seen me wear t shirts and do their ads before but they're more than that. It's Ever and Matt Best and these guys are veterans. They're really into veteran supported causes and they give a lot of coffee and a lot of charity to first responders Lon forcement, military causes. They're just great human beings and this was a deep conversation. I mean. We talked about all kinds of cool stuff like diet and just military life. But and coffee, of course. But then we got into some some heavy shit about the military industrial complex and it was a very intense podcast. I really enjoyed it and I. Really Love these guys and I love what they stand for and I love their company. So please give it up for Evan Hafer and Matt Best of black rifle coffee. The Joe Rogan experience. PODCAST. Hello. Gentleman. We're rolling we're rolling. Off guys for a long time and enjoy your coffee for a long time. So I'm happy guys could come on here and talk some shit man I love it. I love being shows with Matt especially with you. This is fucking credible to your ridiculous set up that you put in the kitchen with all the coffee espresso a videotaped it. So people could see but the measuring of the weight of the grams. I know you got into it bef- you were into coffee before you were in the military right? And then you started bringing coffee and a roaster and a whole setup with overseas. But like this like measuring it and the exact temperature of the water and all that Jazz Oh. Yeah I think. Way Back. In late nineties I guess is probably where it all began and I always say this where you know every good story starts with a with a with a good check basically, and I met this Barista back in the late nineties and she turned me onto espresso. So. I started really going down the rabbit hole and coffee. So she was just like really in whispers wasn't she was she's hot and. Humid Barista so But. That was the gateway to this entire thing and. Then as I continue to evolve my my coffee nerd. Sensitive ME I. I I was like, well, you know what? This green beret thing sounds. Pretty cool. I. Would Love to be able to do that jump out of planes maybe overthrow some countries. That's that sounds pretty rat. But never left, and so I was still way into coffee roasting coffee on fires and all my stove and getting different weird espresso machines and the funny thing is back in when I was in SF guy. People would make fun of me all the time like you hipster douchebag. What do you do? You like sweet thirty minutes and make a cup of coffee. Doing. Well, that's why it's a funny contrast between this. Special Forces Guy Seven is like really meticulous with their coffee. No cream. Don't you dare. Jacquard kind of makes fun of it in his book where he talks about like putting honey, his black rifle coffee and half of it is just to kind of mock the fact that people who really coffee we'll put anything in it. Disaster. They won't, and Jack is one of my friends. So when he when he came out to the house, he was doing research for his book. I was making a cup of coffee and he was like. Dude this is fucking insane like how long is this going to take I was Like. Man It takes as long as it takes that entire up that we just put in your studio. I had that in my coffee lab in my house that entire thing. And I'm out here in his roasting coffee on my stove and going going way down the rabbit hole with Jack and he's taking notes you know for his book and he's a former seal you know. So we're talking shit and he's like you must have just been picked on the teams. Right thank you. Yeah, I. Guess That's I. You know like. You just have to run fast because if if you're going to do something weird like this, you gotta be able to run really fast a lot of fucking pull ups and push ups and shoot really well I. think that was one of the things where I was like man I got to be really good at all these things because it's got to offset all my Bagheri over here. We've laughs respect you. Balls deepening coffee. It's an interesting story. When we both had professions post military as contractors and I was in this fob and I'm sitting there I'm like why the fuck is this like fifty thousand dollar Expresso machine for a very small base in the middle of nowhere will come to find three three years later I'm trying with and I'm like, yeah do agency bought some stupid ass Yep that those me I. Ever to author, to buy. Super Intricate frigging espresso machine in the middle of nowhere I'm like of course it was you. So I that's the exactly. So the entire story so I'm working at the agency then so fast forward a few years later. And the logistics person came to me and here she was like, Hey, what kind of espresso machine or coffee machine should be Biden's like, oh, don't worry. I'll send you the links to it. And it was like thirty thousand dollars machine. Imported it from Italy and had it flown in through this some other logistic situation and she's like so this is it Mike Yeah but we still need a grinder to right and that was something kind of lived in in nod infamy that I had gotten the the entire logistics system to buy me this espresso machine from and there was no oversight like no one was like looking at the counts and GonNa what the fuck is contrary to popular belief you know Congressional oversight and budgets at times is a little bit. War they kind of say, here's lump sum. You know here you go. Here's here's twenty, three, million dollars as long as you can justify it maybe we'll be okay To at the end of the fiscal year, they're like we got some money to spend or we don't get this budget next year. Honestly in. Iraq early on it, it was like a dumpster fire with cash just the tax dollars that were just. Burnt in that place just dumb shit. You couldn't even imagine when I look back on it now as a guy that's very vested in what's happening my tax dollars and like what the fuck where these idiots doing like. This is so dumb. Dumb. Like what was besides Espresso Machines? What was the other ridiculous shit that the money was being spent on? Oh, well, here's a great example. So. I've got a myriad of them but. We had a field of up armored vehicles that were really fucking expensive Mike Five, hundred, thousand dollars a pop give or take. We couldn't take him anywhere because. They were so obvious that it was a up armored vehicle that you just drive around people would want to take potshots at you for the fun of it. So you have these beautiful half a million to a million dollar cars that you can't use. So you gotta go when when we're working in the low viz capacity means you're just trying to blend in just not get shot man like don't pick a fight like let's just blend and do our job get the fuck Outta here. But if you have a really expensive looking like g five or something that's just really g five in the middle of fucking Baghdad and work zone people are GonNa want it professionals wash. That big machine. Yeah. Bulletproof Gyn? Yeah, really geared. So she worked all of this stuff is up armored. So when you look at this like any vehicle you want, you can get a level of armor to it. But. If you buy the most ridiculous expensive vehicle in the middle of fucking war-torn country. You'RE GONNA stick out like a sore thumb and the whole intent of the mission. is to blend in. So. To my point, you'll have fields of shit that you can't use because some dumb ass is pulling the trigger on your government tax dollars going this looks good to me Mas. We'll just see how that looks. Yeah. They take like an old Chevy Blazer and then retrofit it. Well, there's that to you do that do they do that oh? Yeah. You can when You look go down, go down the rabbit hole and armored vehicles, and obviously you probably wouldn't. But if if you wanted an armored vehicle at any kind, you can get it now there are there are different armored vehicles from different companies. So for instance, Mercedes. Builds their armored vehicles from ground up. It's one of the best if not the best armored vehicle in the world. It's built from ground up Jamie. Yeah. Yeah. The. Originally, was military vehicle. Yeah. That's why it's so durable like my wife has one of those. It's like the war is like Fuck Ka Chunk it's not like any other car. So thick like the gauge steel. They don't make cars like it know. That it's so boxing, it's got such good angles to think that it really fits. Well, then listen is they look fucking incredible. You remember the weight on like a level seven like how those things are. Yeah. It offset the gravity of the earth. It was fucking like those things are so heavy and so top heavy it that was the other issue too. You're not going anywhere fast and those things. So if you need armored up, right so you must have like steel plates at the bottom of it. It's all bill from ground up. So it's not as if you have a steel plate that you can remove or something or that's been retro and it's bill on the factory line. For it to be an armored vehicle saw this time military guys they make him for like dictator no, they make them for for forever really rich pricks or dictator acts or military whoever it is, it doesn't want to get blown up. And you can take I think it's something like three rounds of AK47. So seven sixty by thirty nine and a three inch square, and that's through the entire vehicle. So when you're getting When you're getting lit up one of those it's it's at one. It's it's an interesting experience. You're never gonNA forget and then to you're feeling pretty good especially, if they're shooting at you with AK or just like whatever I'm going to have a snack you guys have. been sought one while under attack Oh, Gosh Yeah. What does it like? Just think today? Yeah. Some tanks. And obviously, you know your your job is not to stick around and kind of absorb the rounds but the the a level seven is what it's called and so when you're an eleven seven armored vehicle, it's getting shot at by their seven sixty about thirty nine or you know increase. The caliber of of rifle or belt fed it will absorb a certain amount around sometimes it'll be loud and sometimes it'll be really muted and quiet depending on where it strikes strikes how it strikes. If it's striking angle if it's perpendicular the round, where is it hitting So, how close are you to the shooter? Wha, how perpendicular you are around? How big is the round? So it'll? It'll sound different depending on where you're at and you can kind of like where's that coming from? How much weight does it add to the overall truck? Oh Gosh it. Ensures, if you were to put your finger in one of those levels, seven doors by hand. Trimmed off you'll get it trimmed off and that's a really weird factoid about level sevens is you never wanNA roll down the windows and you really can't. On your teammates farts. It's the worst because you can't open the door roll down the window. You're like really dude yeah you go through chick-fil-a drive in one of those things. No, you can. You can get. The window down about this far give or take but it will also take it. It'll also take a finger off if you'll send roll up the window, the windows going to be three and a half to four inches thick. That's how big it is and it's not glass. It's it's a it's a plastic essentially or Some type of plastic, but you can see through and. You can see through looks somewhat like glass if you get close to an armored vehicle. Listen is right now going I, need that my life oh man I need one of those a lot of companies that do that they take like Tacoma's Tundras. With level seven's. Kind of bad ass one day I won't doesn't that a Dev Rollo Company do that? Do you know the company Rollo? Talking about yeah. They they do the plastic coating on the outside chip called the hard plastic coating on the outside. The synthetic heavily yes. Like this hard plastic the it's like forget what it's called. There's a usually these for undercoating some cars but these a lot of cars they do it on the outside as well, and then they'll do a whole bulletproof treatment of them. Five hundred thousand dollars to a pretty expensive expensive with Jamie Dev? Rollo. It's. They'll do a seven hundred horsepower engine. All kinds of crazy shit like when you look at the will or Sadi's. You'll have sometimes, you'll have a V, twelve twin, Turbo v Twelve Mercedes that's gotta be six hundred. We go to go to their just their model range where the model ranges and go to the Predator limousine look at that thing. Yeah they make a limo, but the Predator is their top of the line. Oh, that's that's their F one, fifty, F., one fifty, and they also do a Tundra but there's that line that shit on the outside Linex is that what it's called yeah. Yeah this Lennox Yeah. So. This is really durable plastic that you can't scratch or dent. So now that you're in Texas is not GONNA be your Texas truck I think I might have to Deb ex call a deck. So it's like a version of Linex I'm sure right think it used to be called, Linex? Yeah. Things are mean looking like it. Yeah. That's dope also. Okay. So it does do it for GPS to there. Are they do with. LINEX. Mercedes. What did you do ask discussing unscratched but it looks like Shit. Look Ogata's. A Matt looking but the texture yeah, I've seen people do that with GPS and shit. Oh. Yeah. I think Dudley did it. They WANNA his really? Yeah. I think he's jeep was just at the office I think he's got some kind of. LINEX or something. I don't know I just saw it. I just saw it in Utah and maybe that probably just imagine my mind not paying attention. Now we're looking at so many different things when we were up there. Yeah but that so this company does that, but it's like I. think that was there's a lot a lot of rich Russian guys that drive around those things. Yeah. It's going to rich rushing things. Ask. One ballistic car in USA. Yeah. You're rich rich and chances are someone wants to kill you. I would say that's really high. Possibility. Possibility. So. So when you got out of the military, how long was it before you started black rifle it was started basically the same time. We're still coffee in there. What is this? What coffee that is that cinnabar I roasted special for this for this place that These Costa Ricans. Would you think? Bomb diggity really love it. I I was turned on Ethiopian coffee I this Guy Peter Giuliano he's a coffee expert back in the day podcast like a few years back. I was just interested I was like, what like what is it like what? People that are really into coffee reading about people who are really in coughing like I want to know what the fuck is going on like what is happening is real heavy coffee nerds because I would just get coffee poor cream in it, and then I was into like mcat oil grasp had butter and coffee for a while but the problem with that is people podcast got so annoyed with me going. Every thirty. Because you've got all his grass fed butter and mcat oil in your throat right? Just like coach you. So I got this Guy Peter Giuliano and he explained to me the whole thing all coffee came from Ethiopia and then and then the difference between wet processing and dry processing m. and coffee rust and all these different things. We went down the rabbit hole for like three. Our best analogy I have for coffee. It's so similar to wine right? You had the wine connoisseurs that can taste all the tasting notes and all that. Then you have the average consumer that goes and buys bottom boxers to get drunk or caffeine. It's very similar where if you go down the rabbit hole like Evans specifically with everything cigars. dorks that take it to the next level with it, and I think that the for every one of those whether it's wine or cigars or coffee or whatever it is rate, and which is site total sidebar story but we might as well, which is as a win had dinner with crowder. When night we went to the cigar bar. And he's he's a hard core cigar aficionado like he's. and. So he was taking me down you know Cigar Street with whatever he's doing and I was taken him down Coffee Street, and so the Geeky EST conversation. In in America, was taking place between Stephen. And me is we're trying to eat steak and this this bar in Dallas, not too far from his office but I think for every one of those, you actually find a niche subculture of people that are also share you know your. Your Saint Passion for just obscure details and things. So when you're talking about wine or coffee. You do have some type of common kinship I, guess because I. I I totally get why people are into this one little thing and they want to go as deep as interesting as they can I totally get it because I'm like that was coffee. I never get bored of it if I go to Panama Guatemala Costa Rica. Coffee is so fascinating from every aspect whether we're looking from historical of the international historical consequences of this entire commodity whether it's commodities trading whether it's growing and processing. The future of coffee where is it headed? How are we? You know optimizing the growing process? So we don't run out of it whether you're looking at it from a roasting or a drinking, all of that. You can go as deep in his detailed as you want and it doesn't get fucking boring. The rest of my life ever thought about farming. Is it possible doing, America, can you do it in Texas? No off climates just not correct? No, it's. Out of Hawaii right which is fucking fantastic. I Love Kona Coffee. Yeah. It's some really amazing flavors that come out of the Big Island for whatever reason right to soil is that what it is yeah, it's the soil. So when you have the High Lob or let's be honest, that's not America now. Why is not America it's crazy. I mean, I love Hawaii don't get me wrong but they should be they should allowed be allowed to be their own fucking country there an island in the middle of the ocean. It's five hours by plane from America. The fuck is that America now I think they should be protected by manager don't get me wrong but the idea that that's regular America. Come on Man Hawaii there's a specific look Hawaiians half whereas other looks Hawaiian Yeah exactly what does a guy from Iowa or that Guy Looks Iowan No. Way that it. took. fucking crazy. That's America. Yeah plus you can I don't want America to fuck it up. So Right Out there like none of the American politicians can fuck that to the point where we can't go out there and at least enjoy it in a peaceful and it in a way. That's beneficial for everybody that we've done they've done an amazing job of not fucking it up. Yeah. Thinking about how many people come there. Like every year people are constantly going to Hawaii, they've somehow another managed to keep it together. I think it's very much America's like vacation spot where we'll. We'll take that island. So you know we have bachelorette parties we can just roll out there. Sit On. Quiet. Days and drink Margaritas. The thing that I was thinking about when I was flying out there, which is really kind of morbid thought in some ways where I was thinking about all the fat that is flown across the ocean. So they can go eat more fat on the island of Hawaii in the sense of. Like just people in the obesity of just generally flying seven hours landing on an island, and then essentially sitting and eating in a buffet and then flying back and I was thinking about the fuel that's being utilized to cart just general fat back and forth. That's what I was thinking about when I was flying to Hawaii in January and fat and booze. Yeah. Fat In. Booz Booz kids consume there so much. With me too when I go there. I just immediately start drinking I don't drink during the day here like very rarely. But when I go to Hawaii like the moment I. Land. Fuck. Yeah. Ask. By. Eleven am. Exactly. SOMEONE AN UMBRELLA Someone a pineapple slice in it. Party. I fucking love it there and it's my favorite hunting destination. because. It's a great place to go and get tuned up for like elk hunting because he get so many opportunities when you go to I am. Yeah like ethically like they have to kill those things like there's no if ands or buts about it, they bring in snipers on a weekly basis they have thirty. Thirty thousand. Deer. Plus or minus. You know they don't really know they're doing overhead surveys and shit on an island with three thousand people in its time you've been no I haven't proud. It's bonkers you're there at nighttime and you hit the flashlight, hit the headlights and you just see thousands of is you like This is crazy for access breed like hogs as you know and I think a lot of people don't know like Texas with the exotic here. What happened over the last? You know whatever one hundred years is the rains and storms wash out the high fence. And then you get the access that escape, and now they're like rampant where I live in hill country just our way I mean they're they're fucking everywhere. There's almost more than like wild whitetail. My wife saw an access near our house John Right next to my house the way here we saw about a thirty four inch axis in about I don't know thirty females out there in the field on the way now, and the crazy thing with Texas is considered exotics. So as long as you have a hunting license, there's not the regulations like there are in the season with white tail. So it's they're walking groceries, which is awesome because you're like. Delicious Delicious List consider elk exotics. Here? Yeah which is so weird because elk used to be native they used to be native here but they they were home extirpated and then now that they're back there. Because they're not standard for taxes, there's now considered exotics. So there's no like hunting season for. Have you immersed yourself in the Texas hunting culture at all the only been here for a month. Okay. It's wild man because you said Y'all y'all you haven't. I've tried it. It's it's an ill fitting shoe for me and my vocabulary I can't use it. I'm like what's up bro from Soco y'all. Shred the Nar, the y'all. The Nari y'all but the hunting out here is crazy some the higher fence ranches and we're talking tens of thousands of acres, and if you ask him like, can you shoot a draft or like everything's got price tag old boy and I mean anything goes but I'm not. No but hell. But apparently. I have a friend who shot at draft GIRAFFE and he says they're fucking delicious. Yeah. They had to shoot one graph, right? So. Here's thing about drafts they are like every other animal they want control breeding right. So every other male large male wants to control breeding and when you have a large male draft that fucks up all the other males APPs like we got a real problem with this guy right and so they had to take out this draft. So he was in Africa at the time and they shot this draft and the eight it and he said it was unbelievably delicious. Do they reference what it tasted like I would imagine it? It's gotta be in the deer family, right? Like something like it dinosaur family what families drafted I have news my thing on it though I'm not eating anything that is so friendly. When you go to the zoo, a baby can feed it right? Like my daughter I video of my daughter when she's to I was holding her and the giraffe comes. With his crazy tongue and takes the lettuce from her hands and she's laughing I. Mean they're just to chill man and if the only animal that have no problem with zoo to I, have a bit about it because every other animal zoo let him go what the fuck is. This giraffes have no problem with that fence like another day with no lions. Just stroll it over to where the lettuces feel like. That's how they talk. Very proper. Yeah. That's hard think. Oh Yeah. I got a couple of those just hanging. Do you have Okapi now? at a ranch up pretty animal though the Okapi. Wow. That's beautiful. Have you have you seen as he dunks here? Is it a zebra donkey? They Cross pollinate and it's got zebra legs and then a donkey body it's super weird looking. Oh, Jamie. Yeah. Because a lot of those animals if they get out like Zedong Crossover, then you have like, red, stag in elk can actually make together and make a hybrid crossbreed seriously. On the kid that cool but that's a infertile animal, right? Yeah. I believe most hybrids are like that counted as a pet. Wow. What a beautiful thing what does that fucking thing with the giant you that Cock sock? Size of those that's what to I think he can watch. How what the fuck kind of neck does it have to carry that around look at that headgear? That's just to Florida that's a Florida air boat. To Walk to sue. Very similar to Texas Longhorn but they got these really thick horns on them. Brassy. That's like a sprinter is right there. Wow it's a wine there. It's like W. A. Y. S. U. or something I don't ask me wild ass looking animal well Texas has I did a bit about Texas Tigers Tiger's Yep in Texas than all the wild a world right? One St More Tigers than all of the planet and they're all dudes, yards, riddle me this. Do you think chill exotic? The increase of Texas. Holy Shit. That's if you so showed me that about That's Avatar. That's right. That's an a movie. Yeah. Would that thing tastes like it tastes just like how I've had it I like how that's your? Look one what the fuck man. I like ULITSA JOE's first question I wonder what that tastes. Light you denounce cruising through everything doesn't taste the same true I've had people that have never had elk before I serve it to them. They're like Holy Shit I'm like, yeah. Yeah. This is the real thing you feel different when you eat it you like who? Like you feel pumped up because it's so filled with nutrients and vitamins and everything you know feels like Alphabrain for your body yeah. There's something to it. There's something to it. There's a reason why the running away from outlines all the time. I, don't know if you've tried I've taken like beef grass fed organic beef liver pills, and stuff. Yeah. Do that. Yeah. Yeah. I had a company Hook me up and man I, take about thirty minutes after I eat I'm like supercharge if I just be twelve shots the weirdest thing and I think yet like work your way up and dosage. Yeah that. Guy. Paul. Saul. Dino. A Carnivore, MDI? Yeah he's sell I. Think it's hard soil supplements. If he sells grasp fed beef, liver, beef heart Trachea Collagen, take all that Shit Trevor does all that the Trevor Thompson eat. Shit Right Yeah Trevor? Super. Health. Conscious. Yeah I believe in a one hundred percent I mean human beings suppose beaten. Oregon's when wolves kill right first thing the Alpha does eat deliver the other wolf stand standby and wait and the Alpha deliver the most nutrient dense part of the body. Keep it do you keep your liver when you I'd Love Liver By, liver at the store to buy calves liver like when I run an elk river I, love heart to heart. Delicious. Your heart is my favorite my brother-in-law. Season Oil like fried a little bit delicious. An Elk river is like as. Big As fucking table. It's so big enormous enormous organ. Yeah. I've always looked at the last couple years. It's interesting because people will go. Why are you keeping that? It's funny because. You know. Pulling my knife out going through you know as feel dressing AETNA. My God we need to keep the heart and liver and it's funny because people some people, some people what the fuck are you doing McMahon. It's really good I want to one day, shoot a bison, and then cut the liver out and squirt bile on it, and he'd it raw because that's what the native Americans did. Apparently, it was like their favorite thing to do really yeah. They would cut the liver out and cut slices deliver and squirt bile on the liver and eat it raw I want to taste that I want to know what I'll do. Why just like Salty I guess Yeah I. Mean they had all sorts of ways to get nutrition right were sort of. Non Natural, but like instinctive, you know like the liver like today, we don't necessarily eat liver the most if you like gave a survey of how many people live or on a daily basis probably not even one tenth of one percent. But back, then it was like really important for nutrients because you know especially, if you live on the planes and the winter and there's there's no vegetables, you're not getting any vegetables. Like. The Comanche basically lived off Bison and when they would shoot a bison that one of the first thing they would do is cut deliver up in. Raw with bile on it. I know what it tastes like. Favorite part living in Texas I live bunch next the hillbillies and I mean complimentary sense. But like my neighbor I don't know two months ago I was like, Hey, man I just killed a bison on this ranch. I got extra me give me like a hundred and fifty pounds. That's nice. Organic Bisons. I love it. Because everybody's killing shit around here and. So good. Well, my studio in L. A. had three commercial freezers. So when when dude come over I have everybody meet I gave me to people that you would never think would be out there. Just never put your freezer on GSI switch I learned the hard way in my in my garage. Switch went off and I didn't check my freezer for like four days. Ruined three axis and one white till. Three days it would still be frozen not in Texas summer in the garage. But if is it a good seal look a really high end freezer probably not I think about it in that first time when my my neighborhood caught fire a couple years back and I had a freezer commercial freezer, my garage we evacuated but my friend Bud stayed by and when the firefighters were in the area I said, Hey, man I go go into the freezer ago go that meat is still good and pull it out and serve it to the firefighters so. They felt the Fed like fucking hundred firefighters kidney. Yeah it was awesome. Hundreds of pounds of meat and and it was, but it was still frozen. Yeah. Still Good. That's crazy. Good seal for like a Yeti Cooler right those fucking Yeti coolers man they are the shit. You can take one of those coolers filled with is leaving and one hundred degrees sun for five days. You Open that bitch there's ice in there it's crazy. It doesn't make. Any sense it does make sense but it's just shocking when we were when we're I would wrote down this the middle fork of the Salmon and in in Idaho. So do like five sixty trips and I would pack shitty coolers with dry ice and ice and they would last five days. So a Yeti cooler a little bit of shade you can stretch that out for. I don't know and you could get a week at least out of that stuff. But the funny thing is with what just meet in general as far as one of the questions that I was I was trying to ask you earlier was. When you're on that Carnivore Diet and you were eating nothing but music were you eating wild meat or were you also eating some beef and some other things that eating both was eating the while I was eating like a lot of elk which I always do but elk is very lean. There's no fat in that so I would also out and tallow. Okay. First of all had a lot of fat I would take scoops of tallow he'd. Eat Scoops of beef tallow, grass-fed beef tallow, and then I would also Cook Bacon Bacon I'd have four or five pieces of Bacon. He ever get fat otherwise you'll get that rabbit starvation going on you know. So I was just trying different ways to get fat in my diet and eat that for month. Yeah. Whole month in LAS pounds and I got real aggressive. Aggressive like I. Yeah. I think so for sure but also I think it's just there's something about your body thinking all it does is eat meat right I mean I think like one of my friends have said that have turned Vegan like makes make more peaceful and calm. Make sense you're grazing your your urban four right like you're just out there eating grass and rice all day of. Course like it seems like your body would be calm but on the other side of it, if you're eating meat all the time you bodies we got kills yeah like it's it's I. think there's something to that I really do because I wasn't trying to be aggressive right but I would do I would find myself saying things that were a little too aggressive or like. It was weird. The world's worst about getting excuse for like kind of Nassau today Joe. I've just been eating meat man I wasn't an addict but I was like a little quick to judge things allegedly. Fuck. Cam. Just. A little too much and then. There was something I think there's something to that is I had a lot of energy man that was the other thing that was seriously. Oh Yeah. All Day Long. That was what was weird. So there was no crash. There was no crashing during the day was like I had extra energy. It was crazy. It felt weird. You know it's like there was no I was eating no sugar right about eggs. Yeah. Fish eggs. All. Animal House Jose anything. That's an animal. The only thing that kept me from eating that way was I got bored so I love Pasta. I love. I love going to a restaurant and they make nice crab cake or something I'd love when I love with chefs create things I. Don't want to say, Hey, I only eat meat like look sist I like Sushi I like it with the rice and the I like it tastes good I. It's one of the things that I enjoy. So for that is like I could do it longer if I could keep doing, I can eat like that forever I enjoy food too much right. But that's the only reason I motivated in life to be pretty good businesses so I can buy pretty good whiskey NBA fat fuck anytime. By the lobster roll that's thirty seven dollars school man yeah. There's there's some logic to that. Not Worrying about what food costs and it just it just there's something about I feel like when you go to a restaurant, you're going to like an art. Gallery. It's like this guy, an artist or this artist she creates these dishes and then your experience there art. I don't WanNa. Just eat meat. All right. So when I go to restaurants, eat whatever the fuck I want but I think eighty percent of my diets meet. Yan, probably around eight hundred. I've been trying I went strictly. Centrally vegetables and meat for probably the last six months. Just to see you kind of what's going on and honestly I felt really good. Shifted, just to meet. Five or six days ago. So I'm I'm running just meet now. some interested in in what you did and I, guess you know I should probably do a little bit more research. well, Music grass-fed a lot of grass fed butter. Kept all the bones. So using all the bone marrow and things like that, my l.. Bob? And for the most part, you know the elk that shot. A couple of weeks ago that thing was really fat. It had a really healthy layer of fat on it which is more. A lot more fat than I thought that we get those especially in the Rut I know yeah. Mine was pretty fat to it was pretty impressive but I'm trying you know what? I mean where it's I've talked to trevorrow a lot of the last several months on. How are you feeling or you crashing at this time? How stops it right he he did it for a while but then he got off of he said his hormones kind of plateaued. Well, he was doing something crazy to he was doing carnivore and he was only eating for like thirty seconds during the day or something where he score himself. What gives crazy really yeah, he was he was he was fasting till like four o'clock in the afternoon and then so he's doing intermittent fasting everyday till four or five in the afternoon may give himself a feed window of two hours or something like that, and he's he was prepping for his He's doing a couple of races plus he's doing some guiding up in. Alaska? So he's doing all of these. Kind of mental exercises plus the fact that he's. Optimizing his diet doing exercise physical exercise this really interesting way of looking at life but he's only giving himself maybe an hour. Of A feeding window a day for a while like if you call it a feeding window Italian call that's yeah. It's where the intermittent fasting thing is a weird sort of torture called. Torture themselves in just like a benefits to it for sure whereas real benefits the not eating all the time because you give your body a break and you let your body digests food and and there's benefits to going into ketosis. New Body goes into Ketosis when it doesn't have glycogen anymore and starts eating fat burning off the fat, there's a lot. There's a host of benefits right I'm not the guy to tell tell you about him but. There's also a thing where guys do where they want to see how long they can go. Yeah. Marathon runners just something to like they want to see how far they can push it and so this is the thing where you're hungry. You're like, nope, not until six we till six super aggressive Internet minute fastens weird to me when they eat for like two hours a day I like twelve but like eighteen twenty hours, that's that's that's too much for me. We would be up in the mountains. Cruising around me are going shed hunting and it's you know four, thirty, five o'clock and the Guy Katie yet like any day. Now I'm not eat until Thursday I don't around with that Shit. Hunting. I eat all the time eight. Constantly I'm not doing any intermittent fasting when I'm walking ten miles a day in the mountains. That's crazy. When you have to I I never know when the real work is going to begin right? In I don't WanNa. Be. In that position, I found myself in that position last couple years where. It's time to turn it on and ship I was on a stock a few weeks ago, and it took me over an hour to move thirty yards. Just trying to move on this big bowl is slow as I could. There were cows everywhere. So I had is everywhere looking for me. It's amazing. If you don't move fast and you have the right Cammo can get away with you can get away and I didn't know what I could get away with her I couldn't get away with and I feel like I'm doing. Taichi or something you moving a slow as you can and then you never know when and how long is that stock going to be and then. How long is the post work if I? If I shoot this animal long Meghan have to track it. Whereas all the work in this going to start an end. So I'm the same way I have to eat throughout the day I have to keep putting fuel in my body because I'm always expecting Shit's GonNa get real like. Ten minutes now. Yeah. Those hunting situations like you just don't know you don't know if you're GONNA have to pack out in an hour like you should be fueled out because if you get really tired and you just feel weak and Woozy, you could push through it in a regular day. But if you're out there in the mountains near at eight thousand feet, and then you have one hundred pounds elk on your back and you have to walk over this Ridge it's GonNa. Take you two miles to get to the truck. Good fucking luck. Should've prepared, gas. Yeah I eat man you gotta eat but I think there's real benefits to you know occasionally fasting, and then that intermittent fasting I think human beings probably eat too much. Generally if you look at Americans in particular, we're fattest faulk. Yeah. Well, the wrong stuff to have always made that joke when people are like having a donut and they're just like had. No energy in their chug coffee. I'm like, eat some fucking carbs meat and you're gonNA feel great. It's just yeah. The Diet in America's very interesting to me especially when we travel with some of the other guys that don't have the same dietary habits as us and I'm like that's eight gas station burritos in a hot dog and that's that's what you had. And I don't I'm not like discrediting it that your life do what you want, but it's it's weird and then they feel like shit all day and you're like, well, no wonder you had. It's just too real. Yeah it's too. There's too much all the time and I think that's where the intermittent fasting at least. For a Lotta guys it's it can really help because it's ultimately saying. I'm not going to take part in just the ease of all the food that's available all the time and I'm going to take part in two or three hours a day. Yourself, some discipline. Give yourself some discipline. Now when you're eating this all meat diet, how much of what you're eating is the elk and wild game and how what, what are you? What are you using I'm using right now I'm only using wild fish. So Salmon for the most part in elk so. That's it. That's it. So I brought what about other sources Well, I. Mean outside of that little. Little Nugget the. Protein by how? So. fucking addictive. So good. So good. But, I think for mcat I use a lot of MC. And I'm not saying it's good. Whatsoever I just WANNA see. What the fuck happens to my body when I, do nothing but. Good when I say when I say non-processed fats, wild meat all the way through and then stick to it for. Two three four weeks and see how I'm feeling. Good enough fat. Yeah. That's the real problem with people and they get really tired because your body is certainly going to go into Ketosis at certain points time but there's also something that happens when you eat so much protein your body Converts Protein Into Glucose, it's I. Think it's called Glucose Genesis or something like that, and you're you'll experience that too. But you're gonNA need fat if you don't you're going to get. It'll start fucking with you and that's one of the reasons why I got really into tallow and really started eating a lot of bacon and things like or such like a national misconception that fats bad for your body because I hear that from a lot of people like I don't want to eat fat. Oh, they were told that for the longest time they were well first of all. There's real evidence that shows her and these companies that made sugar paid scientists to fuck with data. To put heart disease and all these problems that people having with clogged arteries to push that off on saturated fat and to take that away from from sugar right and sugar. It's sugar Tara before you should in that form is so unnatural right right that in the form of meat is very natural. It's what human beings have been eating since the beginning of time on trae Trade Saturate Matt's pretty good you. It's like stay from trans fat well unsaturated fats that come from vegetable oils. LINOLEIC ACID is fucking terrible for you not only taboo for you. There's real evidence and it makes you hungry that like you're you're eating it and there's no nutrients in your body gets hungrier. Throughout human history, there's never been a time until recently where people got oils directly from plants in large quantities. Larry. You got oil from plants. It was like oil from Avocados like natural or you got your oil from beef fat or chicken fat or things that that's natural for human being. These saturated fats that are natural. Your body knows what to do with them. You know what the fuck to do with canola oil. It. Your body's like what the fuck is. Your body gets a hold of like some raw honey. Your body knows exactly what to do with it but your body gets a hold of Fuckin-. Corn. Syrup and that Kinda Shit like what is this? It just doesn't make sense to your body and I think we've gotten into this processed food thing and processed food is almost entirely like if you it's first of all, it's a human it's a new human creation. Yeah, and it's a it's it should never be your first choice. You first choice should be natural foods in a first choice should be look. Apple Steak. That's normal can eat that. That's easy. Your body knows what the fuck to do with that. But you know you get into like seed oils like really heavily process seed oils like this real evidence. That is giant part of what's wrong with the health of Americans. Today is these ultra processed vegetable oils. They're fucking terrible for you, but it doesn't seem to me. That's a stretching logic right soon. For, just the American Diet in general for us to look at the traditional food pyramid and say, well, that's bullshit. Ultimately you know if grains and ultimate in processed foods that the cornerstone of your entire Diet, you're going to have some issues. You can kind of look around you don't even have to be a rocket surgeon to figure that out right now holy Shit. Obesity is an epidemic in the united. States were eating a ton of processed food and all the guys that I know that are healthier eating whole foods for the most part, and it's not because you have more discipline or because you have more access or wealth. I know a ton of guys that are not very wealthy eat whole foods and their. Feeding in certain windows in their stolen the military still doing fucking incredibly difficult missions. And they're really healthy. So when I look around, I, say well. Okay if you stick to whole foods and you limit your amount of caloric intake, we're not dealing in a high. High intellect thought process here should be pretty easy but I think what people want. Is, they want their easy button, right? See. Jack in the box you pull in you get Burger you like, oh, now I feel better but meanwhile, you just force some shit into your system systems got to burn off all this bullshit report in there but there's even foods that people think are healthy that are not really good for you like for instance, White Rice is better than brown rice. Like people think white rice like. Brown rice and being healthy. Brown rice got to be one of the biggest conceptions out there that fucking stuff there's arsenic in, but it's Brown. Yeah it's not it's. Great. But this. Should terrible. There's a reason why Asian cultures for a long time have been getting rid of that outside that Husk Japanese. Got It right. With food. I'm telling you this she white rice seaweed. All Day. Yeah there's a lot of countries that figured it out. We're just not one of them. Ultra process seed oils, sugar corn syrup. Preservatives fucking gallons of preservatives glyphosate on all our plants. Yeah. That's also evidence that like animals and I've been getting into this. Animals that eat. These ultra processed foods than you eat them like animals that eat like ultra process corn, and then you animal like you're getting some of the bullshit from the corn in some of the bullshit from that all these seed oil acids, you're getting these things in your body to. But that that makes sense to me, it makes complete sense to me when we look at what they're eating. And then you're eating them for sure the there's really not a direct or you're not stretching in connecting a lot of complex thought there in the sense of when people are trying to sell me on the idea like no, it's great. Don't worry about it. It's like no man like those chickens are eating arsenic and they're packed in you know right on top of each other shitting on each other everywhere like rather have a free free range egg. That I'd rather have free range chickens. No offense to however you want to eat but it's just a preference of eating. It's pretty easy. I think that the the argument comes from corporate impact in marketing where They'll just Americans will consume it without thinking and go. Well, it's good because Jack in the box told me that it's Ganic well I think there's any one thing in this country where there is a a massive. Lack of understanding in terms of like the the people perceive what's good and what's bad. It's nutrition because there's so few doctors that really know what the fuck they're talking about their doctors out there that will tell you don't need supplements you. You need a healthy balanced diet. Look at them. They got a gut bloated. Dying. Fuck is going on I just typed in brown rice I white rice this to see what would pop up and like the all five six articles that come up, say the opposite of what you guys said it's good for you. That brown rice has a better advantage over. WHAT'S THE Nutrients, and antioxidants rises empty calories. Listen. Rice is basically just carbohydrates. It is just carp is just calories, but the shell of the brown rice is not good for you. What Google? Do Google this. Brown right the negative consequences of brown rice. I think it's not necessarily nutritional thing. There's something. Vegan propaganda and these articles that are written by these people like the one I went google. A company I've I get food from sometimes not. paid by them but Jimmy, a favorite Google Google the negative. That's let's say the negative. Impact Brown, Rice, negative health consequences of brown rice that's going to be across the board it with food actually just listening to a doctor discuss this. Brown rice. Brown rice, the Brandon German tag both which are responsible for given the hi Fi brand germ also irritated digestive tracts just a problems bloating diarrhea constipation leaky Gut Syndrome I would skip that source usually a times of India bad. Over there. From wikipedia. That we would. Start with that would say, well, that's the problem like where do you get? That's why trying to say so I just typed. Web MD is usually pretty good. I just typed in Brown problem with brown rice go that invictus fitness what is that? Here we go. The problem with Brown Rice. Dies. Office people should eat brown rice to majority your protein. Brown rice reported high levels of Inorganic Arsenic, which is what I said, which is known potentially caused liver lung kidney and bladder cancer. Some stick just naturally occurring mineral but the inorganic kind comes from chemicals and pesticides. Research Name Aron helped run to. He's a very highly respected fellow Republican online run two different research projects comparing the effects of white rice and brown rice on the body. See the findings below white rice actually has an equal or better nutritional yield and also a better nitrogen retentive affect than brown rice is also because fiber and fight. What's that word fight tate phytate fiber and take content brown rice act as an anti nutrient reducing the bioavailability of the micro nutrients it contains since no one is reading the fucking link I'll just lay things out here for us. Yeah. So. The problem with things that are posted online is that there's a lot of people that want to get you to eat a certain way and they'd like you to eat whole foods they'd like to eat. The plant based foods they'd like it eat carnivore they'd like it. He Kito, and they'll try to spell things out with user bias or with. Confirmation bias and try to only like if you've talked to people that are carnivore base people, they'll just tell you like this is the only way you should eat, and this is why you talk to people that are vegans. This is the only way you should eat, and this is why and more now than ever before people think that plant based is the way to go. So oftentimes when you google like brown rice or by Rice or vegetables or whatever you'll only find the positive consequences like it's very rare to find the negative consequences of eating leafy green vegetables but they they exist the negative controversial oscillates like. What Cyrus has old boyfriend directs husband he had to get fucking surgery because he was getting these kidney stones because he was eating so much leafy green vegetable. You kidding me you get oscillates yeah. Yet. Another reason, why should he greens? But then there's other people that to tell you. The Greens are super healthy for you, and there's all these benefits eating Greens and that certain level I think a certain amount of eating Greens. There's. There's there's a hermetic affect your body is like like. Certain plants have chemicals that they release to try to discourage predation, right so they'll release these chemicals and these chemicals that will discourage animals from from eating them. In fact, when it goes back to giraffes, there's certain drafted eventually starved because this is really crazy when the giraffes upwind were eating certain plants the the believes down wind caught the fact that they were being there being writing and they changed their taste profile. So they released A. Certain chemical that makes the giraffes discouraged from eating as these drafts hated eating this ship it's really crazy like yours Chris Chemicals that plants release they took plants don't want to be fucking eating right? You know like and they have to figure out how to survive. So nature has all these strategies for survival and one of the strategies that plants have is they've released these chemicals in order to make themselves tastes like shit or even be poisonous. I've been hearing more and more of this, and it's interesting because when I look at what's going on with your gut right and I was just having this conversation earlier with a with a retired special forces guy good friend of mine. And we're talking about there are life in the military and what's happening in our gut by right what's happening with the balance of your ecosystem down here and? We were. We've lived this life of going overseas in in overseas repetitively on on on a on a yearly, sometimes more annual cycle in these developing world countries in combat zones were nuking our gut. Every time we go over there anti malarial anti-inflammatory. All of the different things we're just just dropping bombs and our gut, and then we're eating high preservative food. So meals ready to eat. And you're eating emory's you're not sleeping nuking your gut with Finna -biotics tires, and burn pits, and so now, how much is happening down here and when when we're talking about plant based or Carnivore Paleo or any of these other things? How much is it really dependent on individual and whether or not they were breastfed is kids how many anti-inflammatories of they take in what type of lifestyle they were. Your ancestors came from our ancestors come from I. Think. Anytime. We try to emphasize system or some type of system and say, Oh, that's going to work for everybody, right? It's. fucking might not work for any bats with super complicated about diet. There are some people that their data Vegan Diet and it's perfect for they have no problem with it and there's other people that get really sick and there's other people that eat a carnivore diet and they feel like dog shit they feel terrible they feel the sergeant and I don't know if they're doing it right or wrong. But there's some people that he did and they feel great. You gotta find what works for you. But the thing is people are so dogmatic about about diet. It becomes an ideology becomes like a religion. Yeah. In a especially like vegans and carnivores the Vegan people in the carnivore people are like they're like the right and the left wing of America they're like the the proud boys. Really. Are they are they fucking believe one hundred percent and their way of life is the only yeah. And, and they'll tell you based on their own anecdotal evidence. The. Thing you need to know about beings is there's a number I think it's more. There's a giant number of them. That eat meat when they're drunk. Oh. Yeah. Huge percentage, right. Guys out but it was interesting. My wife posted holding up like six plays a year or so ago in man a Vegan, she got posted on some Vegan page and they just went after her I. Hope You die this. You know like, damn she's just having a fillet man. But I think that anything on the Diet side and fitness it's super individualized for success because not everything that works for you would work for me and I think to a lot of people too lazy to figure out and do the actual effort to see what best. Work Routine. Work. Just to say I'll be lazy today it's hard to figure out what works for you. You got to be real honest about it and you know so many people they like Here's the argument for like if you get drunk and you WanNa beating me, you also get drunk you eat donuts right you also get junkie like they were talking about this on meter There's podcasts out right now with that Paul Deneau guy that I was just talking about they got into this and it's A. Human beings like things that taste good or bad for you right. So if you're gonNA analyze your diet and you're going to really do it right you're going to be disciplined. So if you're going to do it, you should really do blood work. You should really exercise and and write down routines and write down how you feel after you exercise and try to. Figure out what you're doing right and what you're doing. Wrong and that's one of the reasons why people like the Carnivore Diet because it's one of the best elimination basically taken everything out except meet and then you kind of find out hey, you know my body doesn't react well to this or my you know my buddy has a real problem with that or. Caffeine some people. It's just fucking whatever it is. It's like yet to find out what what's fucking with you. Most people don't most people just you know go to a doctor the doctor prescribes medication to keep eating the same old shit. But now they have chemicals in here that are supposed to offset whatever negative stuff that they have in their diet. With an interesting segue on that too because it's like in part, some of the nonprofit stuff I do on this side is is solely based on that the individualized treatment for veterans specifically in law enforcement because you see a lot with the military dod the Va it like you're saying you show up, don't feel good and it's a blanket treatment right here anti-depressants here's all that and let you know it's a band aid for a bullet hole, and if you're not actually figuring out what the causes and you're treating symptoms, then the third and fourth effects of those treatments are going to make that individual worse. You know some of the issues I think I. Had PTSD that that's a guy saying that. They go through and they find out they have tbi in forty percent memory function short term memory function in. Cognitive therapy and you get the guys or gals working through it that way. But the only way to figure that out through brain scans and blood work and actually focusing on the individual rather than being lazy say here's some antidepressants when the whole time the issue is something completely different and then you have budget problems, right so the veteran's hospitals don't have enough money to send you through all these different scans and all these different doctors and specialists and try to fine tune. What's wrong with you? Well, I think that that's one of the things that we talk about a lot is. The. Our our politicians will say our leadership. They they love to go to war. They love it. You know. Hey. How many times can we send more guys to war? How many countries and I'm a participant in that endeavour by the way right. Invaded Iraq. I've spent a lot of my adult life in in war specifically in both Iraq and Afghanistan, but the thing that I've noticed in my adult life is that politicians love it. They love to send you know eighteen to twenty six year old men and women they loved to send him to war. What they hate is paying the fucking bill. That's what they hate. They hate paying for the after effects they hate. Standing by their word in the sense of Hey, we're gonNA take care of you your all your health problems, your education. We're going to start really fixing the VA system. So there's long-term care what most veterans that I know what they have to do is they have to continue to lobby the government over and over and over for them to prove that what's happened to their body is connected to their service. But. The issue that I continue to see is that is a lack of of one. It's a lack of experience for our politicians. They don't quite understand what war is long term effects on individual soldiers. after decades of service and I think you know hundreds of my friends everyone of every one of us has some type of long-term fact from their service. Every one of us in the sense of of sleep issues you have, you know got issues do you have inflammatory inflammation or you missing a limb? In really it's it's disgusting the amount of. emphasis there is ongoing. And then the lack of emphasis on care it really it. It saddens me as a society when we have to rely on nonprofits. To pay for the care of veterans. The the military or the DOD in the tax, the taxpayers essentially again I think if they understood. If they knew they weren't paying for the long term care of her service members to the degree that they needed. They would absolutely have no issues stepping up and saying, Hey, we have to do something about this. and it's. It's really when we look at the entire system and how it's put together. There's no way that person this is a good story from my friend Clint. He's missing both his legs recently from last year during Cove Ed. What was happening as his leg was changing as far as the shape of it because he was growing addition additional layer of bone where his leg was blown off and he needed a new leg, but he couldn't get in to get a new leg. So he was confined to his wheelchair for almost six months during this process and he couldn't get an appointment. There's no reason why that should hats except there's literally zero reason. We can't have the largest transfer of wealth from taxpayer into the military industrial complex in modern history. Without. Zero. As far as our entire political system and then not continue to care for our veterans. There's just no way that we can do that as a society because I think ultimately that defines us in who we are collectively in. It's not a good grade. There's a long history of the United States doing that remember when people were coming back from the first Gulf War and they were having all these issues with radiation because they use that. Is depleted uranium rounds and they kinda denied first of all that they use them they denied that this effect was related to that and birth defects and all sorts of weird radiation sickness issues that people are having they were calling Gulf War Syndrome but they did their very best to not take care of these people. Exactly. You look from the Agent Orange in Vietnam Vietnam the long term effects of that and all the studies and research that's coming out right now with the burn pits. Yes and the carcinogens and how much cancer. But then they're like, oh, you can't really draw the conclusion that came from Burnin. Shit for six months. And to Evans Point is well, it's it's tragic to be honest that there's tens of thousands of nonprofits that having to do the legwork without government grants were funding. The money is coming from people that are being participation philanthropy saying i WanNa do something good for these guys and Gals at have release us like to Clint's he's missing his legs and you're GonNa make them in a wheelchair for months because of. For me that just absolutely unacceptable and there has to be changed the story you were telling right before the show Mary about your friend who lost her arms. Explain that whatever good friends, Mary she's Yoda Tech had both her arms blowing off when she tried to catch them ordinance that they were going to dispose of, and essentially she has a full time caregiver and she went to go see her family for I. Believe it was a month and during that time she didn't have the caregiver because she's with her husband and family and they're taking care of her well the va determined after that stint that she doesn't a fulltime caregiver because she obviously was fine that months she was away and this is a young lady who amazing person like just nubs there's she calls herself wonder nerves bless her heart. She's hilarious. But she she can't do things that come. So easily to us like grab things use the toilet and she has really funny twitter about wiping massively she said but the fact that that's happening and someone in the Va wasn't like Oh that's fucking stupid. Here you go full time caregiver like that I mean they're just trying to find a way to cut money left and right and it's just numbers on a piece of paper. It's numbers on a piece of paper and it's I don't think people want to be reminded right These are bad decisions as as as we look back in history. When we look at Iraq in particular and we look at, you know the the tens of thousands of service members served in Iraq include myself. I don't know if they want to be reminded of that that section of our history on a regular basis either in. So we have amputees we have health issues with the burn pits. That really I think is our cause of that that we need to talk about is our Agent Orange is you know I think Jon Stewart just recently brought it up and her active in the Hunter Seven Foundation, which does a lot of research in this but there's zero reason why the government is not funding to the tune of many of dollars research to figure out what's happening to the service members with their directly related long and health issues from burn pits or zero reason because the only reason. Is because. If they acknowledge that it's a problem they're going to have to pay explain burn puts people. Yeah. IT'S A. Essentially, a big pet where you would put all of your garbage everything everything. So that's batteries. That's all the plastics. It's anything and everything that is required. Yeah. It's fecal matter. It's tires it's anything that has directly associated with. your living condition in a war that you need to to get rid of in. You'd shove it all into a pit. And then it would burn. Twenty four hours a day three, hundred, sixty, five days a year. And yes. And how close is where you guys were living? In every one of the fire bases owes at four and a half years as how much time I have on the ground in. Iraq. On every one of my fire basis there was a burn pit and not only that you're going to have young privates out there with. Rolling, over. With probably some you know knitted fake mascot, they're wearing that they got and they're the ones in there actually rotating the trash to burn it through completely. So they're completely subjected to that environment from a very long time. WHO's fucking idea was that? Really, smart really really smart. You know officers and contractors. The same guys that decided that you know the invasion was going to be a really good idea of Iraq. They're the same people making those types of decisions in the way that. You know. Obviously. When when we look at this now and look back on it and we go. That's dumbest fuck. There was somebody in a series of people at that point in time in two, thousand, three, two, thousand, nine in Iraq that were saying. This is a good idea. And That type of mentality I think is the same type of mentality today that says, this is a good idea for not for us not to fund the research to figure out what the fuck is going on. So, we can do something about it. and. When we talk about it read, our voices are only so big. But I think if people knew what was happening with. Veterans because you know I'm forty, three, thirty, three, thirty, four, thirty, four, you got all these guys that are coming up with strange. Cancers that. One of the Jock owes friends and our friends he just died of Cancer Medal of honor recipient had a strange. Hard Oregon cancers. Kinda of cancer in his backings died six months down the road. In what's happening when we talk about the other foundations and people that are deep diving into some this research is incredibly underfunded. They're starting to have this direct connection between the burn pits themselves and the chemicals that ultimately were exposed to or were exposed to and a lot of the cancers at guys are coming. When I say that they're they're developing I guess obviously. There's no fucking way that's good for you. There's no fucking way and that's in the same camp. Yeah. Yes. Right there during the fall. You would have to put I would I would take towel and I would wet it. And then I would put it down underneath my my door going into this little container shipping container. Put another one on the top just so I could just. So I could sleep the rest of the evening because smoke was so bad from the burn pits it would move in. You couldn't sleep because you can sleep without coughing. And it was going that was every day depending on your on your firebase those every day. So it wasn't the fact that Hey, man, I got my fingers and toes right survived seven years away were I feel like a argument to that would be like well, whatever idiots you signed up for it but if that's not an argument. Someone say that but I think that if you're lying those people yeah exactly. If you're willing to spend hundred, thousand, two million dollars on a guy or gal to train them up to do a specific job because you look at how much it costs to put into training and school after school after school, and then they get out and we're just like have fun especially guys and gals like we're talking to your one. I have friends that have done sixteen, seventeen, eighteen deployments and it. It's an injustice because they're willing to sacrifice their life lemon body and eyesight for. Know. I. Guess. The politicians Assem to war but then it's a moral obligation as society that we have to look out for them. When they come back does not happen. It's insane. This is prevalent. They have these burn pits at every base. That's fucking insane. and. For the most part most people don't was this Jamie. And Afghanistan, is peak more than four hundred tons of waste was disposed using burn pits daily. Jesus Christ. And then the question is like, what else do you do? Like San Francisco fog one soldier described smokes thick of San Francisco fog every. Like pollen dust. Of. Smoke could be blue and black or yellow and orange however is mostly black everyone inhaled ingested it. It was. Absorbed by the skin fuck which is, which is interesting because you know I think a lot of people that have deployed. If you said, hey, we gotta get this trash burnt. We gotta do it like well, we signed up for it. We got it but then you gotta give them the research and the medical clinicians that understand this going forward and after the fact actually. Hopefully, not die like this. You know no no no. No. You got to not do that I. Agree Crazy this but there's no way you would say, Hey, let's let these guys breathing this shit and then take care of them. No, you should not burn that Shit. Figure out another way to get rid of it agreed I mean but even landfills are fucking terrible. One of the things are finding out in these when they're doing these satellite overviews, is that methane like they're trying to find the like the largest sources of methane what's contributing to greenhouse gases? It's fucking landfills right landfills retake all your food they pour it into the ground. They just covered up with dirt and it's just leaking methane into the atmosphere. It's fucking terrible like I don't know what the solution is but the solutions definitely not burn it right with the soldiers sleeping. No and I think that. As we continue to evolve hopefully as a society and we look at the way that we deploys. Members. Overseas. We've at least identified this is a problem but the the big thing that I see is we have to continue to to look at the problem fund the research and look at the direct connection between these types of activities meaning burn pits were looking at burn pin I'm saying that's burn pit, but it's also. No I know him. Obviously he's been on the PODCAST SF. Guy. I'm guy. But when we look at the long term effects of we'll call it the special operations community because I'm I'm I'm obviously from that subculture but sleep deprivation anti-inflammatories anti malarial burn pits, multiple rotations, P. T.. S.. This is a holistic health issue for the most of these guys returning if they don't have direct or visible combat wounds, they have some type of residual. The they've been affected by the war in a long term residual way. And I think what happens is is the Va.. continues. To evolve at least pass these wars we have to look at it as a collective and say, how do we make? Turn everybody's attention within the. Va System. To directly take care of these guys in a very positive and impactful way. So we don't have people like Mary Dag that. Get denied it fulltime service Giver Caregiver. Wows outstanding. Now it's still the way it is right now it was like five days ago I haven't to her since I'm actually. But yeah. At least give their resources in the funding necessary because I'm sure the as an organization wants to do good great things. I think that when people just say sucks it's the wrong way to look at us. It's the way how critically think and solve the problem then put in process in a plan to go. Here's the resources you need. So we can fix the issues that are right in front of her face. I couldn't imagine being a va bean counter or being someone who works for va bean counter or gets the call you have to like cut the budget by X. Amount. So figure out where you're GONNA slash. These benefits like and then you have to look at these people that you're talking to either on the phone or through email to you can't even look at him as a human. You got to look at them as a number on a ledger. Crazy. It's crazy and then you have you know incredible giving. Nation that back fills that need through nonprofit organizations. Yeah. I I. Guess My only intent in that conversation as I think, the government needs do a much better job of leading the conversation than being towed around by the entire conversation they need to get out in front of it if to take responsibility for it and I think. The Big One which is taking responsibility for. War just in general and then taking responsibility for the after effects. The individual soldiers sailors marines. Postwar that just seems to me the thing to do and I think most people if they realize these things were happening I think last time I try to schedule a VA appointment is going to take me two hundred plus days to get in to see. A physician. At a shoulder injury. Yeah. So it's two hundred days to get on the list and. I I'm going to be special I'm not I'm not missing anything right but there are a lot of people that have been directly affected by this that need care and now we have the ability I think and based on the current administration to go see a primary care provider outside of the va which was a huge gap. but there's still a lot to do right and there's You know for us. Having this company and what we're dealing with it you know it's a big. It's a big part of the mission of how we run the company. What we're doing with the company. It is a huge part of our mission just in general it's something we do every day. It's awesome and I think that's one of the reasons why people love you guys so much I mean it's the amount of support that you guys have out there in the public I did I send you that picture when I was in Italy and that guy was the Guy In front of me in line with a black rifle coffee t shirt on like all right man. It's it's there's something to what you guys are doing that resonates with people that it's not just a coffee brand, but it's coffee that supports first responders, military veterans and it. It means a lot of people I think because of that, I think something I'm really proud. Of with the company to is giving a more visceral understanding and perspective of the veteran experience because before kind of the commercials and stuff, he did I think there was a very singular perspective what a veteran was. It was kind of the chest beating you know chiseled navy seal and tattooed bearded yeah and one that exists I think that it's good to shed light on. To. Full name ceiling. Here today. Sorry. But like bringing lights the community that there's so many creative people and veterans humans we're just we're just Americans and a lot of a lot of these guys and gals have other professions in their talented artists there and I think humanizing that a little bit allows people not to look at veterans like the two ways that I've seen a lot throughout the years or you're there captain America or your pill-popping depress veteran that you know goes to bed every night being your wife and your like I ninety percent of us in the middle of just. Wanted to hopefully normal people trying to do some extraordinary things in the name of a free society. There's it's just a cool thing that people like supporting companies like yours that do have a great message and the do do good things. It's a it's a nice aspect that that you guys can put that message out there and people understand what you're about, and in that this is a company that was really started by two guys who are veterans. Company now but. Really. Just came down to you guys and your love of coffee and just deciding to do this and then start doing good. But the money and people love that man they'd really do it resonates people a lot. Know I mean I've had black rifle t shirts on before and Talked about it. Means a lot to them I mean, we're we're thankful that it means a lot to him because we wouldn't be in the position. We are kind of focused on the things that we think are matter and support the organizations that we do and I mean I mean I think that's both of us is and user an end user experiences. Exactly what we want to have a great quality product and something that motivates people to wake up in the morning and kick ass and they didn't purchase it. We wouldn't be here doing. What we're trying to do does also think about with you that's like. You. Evan. You. You're. So obviously authentic like there's a video of you roasting coffee with frying pan over a fire like you're such a Dork with. So lobbyists and it's real I mean I love people that Geek out on Shit I just fucking love it even if it's something that I love coffee but even if it's something that I don't even love I just love when people are really into it, it's very contagious. Why did it it it superfund as as I was talking to earlier right? It's I'm really fortunate just as an adult in America right now. So many different ways. But I, get to I, get to do this. Coffee say. I'm in coffee every day and I get to I get to explore any piece of the entire aspect of coffee anytime I want and get his detailed into. It is as much as I want. But the thing that I've found. That is just as interesting if not more interesting than coffee is the company. Gets bigger. You know Developing or ecosystem as a company we have four hundred employees now, right? It's IT'S A, it's a bigger company. Fifty plus percent of our veterans in his I look at our ecosystem and how we support different nonprofits and what we're doing on the company it's it's an incredible high. It sounds like commercial but. I love seeing this incredible high quality product because I love going to these countries and central and South America working directly with the farmers. and. Then, pulling it back through in uniting the customer and the company is one in this. Really fucking cool ecosystem in it wasn't something that I started out necessarily thinking about. where? I wanted to be in charge of a company of four hundred people. That's not what I started out to do literally was roasting coffee in my garage because it was trying to find something else to do and the CIA told me that I couldn't work for him anymore right like. Fuck like why they couldn't work anymore. Man Hit you know? A wide variety of reasons I worked there for nine years. I deployed probably seven out of those nine years. I was angry. And I don't want to say that it is directly my fault but the organization that I started with in Iraq and can have went from Iraq to Afghanistan. And laughed later. I I was I was tired and burn out and I was fucking angry and honestly they probably every right to tell me to hit the road In I'm glad that they did at the end of the day was wakeup call a wide variety of reasons. I was callous. I was emotionally unavailable. There's fucking laundry list of things that were broken. And how did you get past all that? You know. I met my wife in Denver. And we got pregnant. And I hate when guys say that. We. Yeah. She got pregnant I talked to my wife. Got Pregnant. Yeah Yeah Talk. In. I really thought about it. In it was it was hard for me to think about it, but I was most fearful of not being able to love my daughter because I didn't have the emotional capacity to do that. And it was eye opening who's actually very scary. Because that's not the kind of person that I wanted to be, and we've all seen examples of people who are that and then realize it later in life it's the saddest thing in the world is when you see a parent and then they have grown kid that they fucked up. Yeah. Because they weren't because they did have all these other problems they'd never dealt with and then it's too late. and. Then you have this angry child who never therefore, and then you're like fuck tackling I get it. And I knew in order to be a loving father. a good husband in a good man I. I had to change a lot of shit. They really had to have a very. Difficult series of conversations with myself and give myself a lot of fucking tough love and starting a business was one of the things that I needed to do because it gave me. I couldn't work for anyone else after that was done with working for other people. I was not necessarily searching for purpose but I knew that I really wanted to a do something with coffee and you know wide variety reasons that I love coffee. Black rifle was a mosh to my service rifle And I found myself wanting to teach myself a new skill. and. Then what I wrote was mission statement in my mission statement was a mission statement for my life in general, which was to transition out of government service and live a happy and fulfilling life. Had nothing to do with money. Running a company or hiring people. I just wanted to find how to be happy and fulfil myself outside of. Being a commando or a CIA guy whatever that that definition for myself was. But more importantly is I've continued to develop myself. And I'm not saying I'm even close to. Being. A template for anyone It's a constant. It's a constant state of evolution to be a better man. And I also knew the all the lies that I told myself up to that point of view. No I'm a green beret. So you know I'm I'm less than one percentile and I'm a fucking bad ass and I'm this and I'm not All of that would have been a lie. If I would have been. A bad father. All of that would have been meaningless would have been garbage just propaganda. Every one of my combat rotations every one of my friends it is has been killed or maimed in this war. It would have been a complete unjustifiable lie to myself to say if I don't be the best man that I possibly can be. In work on it now. then. All of that is for not. It's all. Shit. So. I I literally after my first year in business of his. Sitting in my garage. And I had sold everything that I don't You know and and I was chips in on this entire thing. And I didn't have anything left to sell. I didn't have as living this shitty rental, my wife was. Packing boxes and a roasting coffee. And I was getting kind of down on myself as I was crying on this Pelican case in my garage. And I it was a distinct toning point in my life where I said. Get up. Stop. Making excuses stopping a fucking pussy. And do something about your life in when I say that like that's the conversation it's exact conversation I had with my at myself. And I've had that conversation almost every day in the last several years about just how can I continue to develop? This ecosystem meets my mission statement for my company. that. Quite literally has nothing to do with money, but how do I continue to be positive impact in my environment versus negative taking away or you know contributing toxicity which is? Man I don't want to have anything to do without life anymore. There's a lot of people that have. They. Have a problem with the way they are and they they make a decision to change but they fall back into their old patterns because it's comfortable and because they're they're used to that, how did you avoid doing that? Like how did you? How did you make real change? One, it's recognizing it right. It's kind of recognizing that you an addiction when you have an addiction. you know when you have emotional or anger issues in your. You know you're you're just angry or whatever it is for for for no real reason. I think one you have to recognize you have a problem and I think you know I've continued to recognize I have a problem. And it it's. It's like quitting a habit or anything that that you're doing whether it's quitting smoking or. working through a very disciplined diet. It it it's every minute. You have the ability sometimes every second you have the ability to make a decision and have a conscious effort. To focus on improvement and. When I feel myself desert times when I feel myself sliding backwards a little bit into more of a negative Evan. In we do it all the time in. This is one thing I will say about the guys that we have together is it's not just myself. It's My friends in military they're called sounds so ridiculous but it says it's like we have our battle buddies for lack of better term but matt in jared or other partner We we former team and the other people within our company that formed team. We can talk to each other in a way that's very candid. We can. Emotionally, expose and the other thing is is. Matinee will do it all the time. If we're talking and we're talking about negative in we're grinding ourselves into a negative whole like stop. Stop Right now we got better shift to talk about pull ourselves out dust ourselves off. and. You can't. If you're by yourself, it's much more difficult I think when you have really good friends and for for us, we're business partners. I can be that guy for him and he can be that guy for me and jared can be the guy for all of us and we have really good friends. We have good business partners. We have good people in the company that. They hope they really do and. Leaving one culture, one subculture of you know really tight knit special operations group guys starting a business by yourself is difficult enough right. It's very I would imagine it's it's extremely difficult endeavor. Doing it without your. Friends and people you can trust and people you can rely on I can't even imagine because the things that we had to go through in the last several years. In the Reminders Matt won't let me be a back. It's just not possible. He won't if I start. Being A. Week and I was like hunter funding. But. It's true. He won't. You won't let me be a back and I won't let him be ship either in the sense of. If I seem dragon. If there's something going on what I call him like what's going on how you doing, what what can I talk to you about so I think. One it's focusing on yourself identifying you have a problem looking at every minute every second at times depending on what it is on how to be better and then building. Building a supportive team around you that stands what's going on and how they can continue to get you up and we've had to do this for a lot. We've we've had to cut a lot of toxic people out of out of our lives like we've had cut some toxic people out of our lives because they're just negative wait hold you back. That's probably been the most challenging thing for for me over the years it's been there's always gonna be extremists influences that impact you but I've had to change environments about five different times and find the right team for me and. Mike were competencies work with there's. A lot of people ask over the years how'd you get the team? What we went through seven different teams? You know toxic relationships or ones that just didn't mesh well together and the hardest part of that is taking that leap of faith and saying. Well. This is going to be really weird but I'm packing my rucksack. It's what I did. I had a good life I was making a lot of money in my business at the time and I didn't like the direction things were going and Evan called me and was like, do you want to do you want to jump into? Utan let's go. Packed up moved on House broke up my girlfriend at the Time Drove Utah My Tundra and one bag and said well time to start over at twenty six years old and I completely start over I lived in an AIRBNB for six months and I think. At face value that was terrifying but the second I landed in Utah and gotten that. I was like fuck I gotta worry about is the one bag of clothes I have to work tomorrow something that I'm passionate about, and then I love and the rents paid. So we're good and from there on like I've just chased that feeling and then all the toxicity that has impacted my life with relationships just get out. It's also gotta help that you're doing business with friends as opposed to in a business with a bunch of corporate dorks. Yeah. You know I see people that are involved in business and I see the conversations they have, and it's almost like they're speaking some strange language, some fake language they all get together and talk corporate talk, and then they get out of there and they take these big. They take this big deep breath and they have a drink or they drive home because they're they're living bullshit living a lie all day long they're pretending they're not I I call it the ivory. Tower Syndrome you know they just blow hot air in don't do anything, and then they don't believe in their mission and I think that's been the most impactful thing for us is we believe in it and it's easy to be authentic in our communication style between the team and again the hardest part probably maintaining that cultural ecosystem in the company especially as you scale it because you want people to be open candidate radical transparency obviously, we're not saying. Making fun of people but we want to be able to say, fuck let's get this done instead of. And that's why I think we've done so well so far is because we stick to the mission and grind it out. We were all kind of bunch of knuckle draggers are dumb. We outworked intelligence intelligence. Yeah and I think. To your point, you know maintaining mission focus you know all these things that we learned in the military right machines. Right. Your mission statements maintain your mission focus radical transparency. You know I I'm zealot at the end of the day I love coffee I love the company of the ecosystem in. It's easy for me. I can go in and high five everybody and we can joke around in the company we have incredible. Atmosphere as far as the ecosystem and the company I love going to work there. I would hate to go to work in a really. In in a corporate environment, actually need the word corporate. because. It's it to me. It just says this is Stodgy spreadsheet driven bullshit where you've got a bunch of people that pontificate about things that they have no idea what they're talking about and what they wanNA. Do is they want to run a company. Only for the prophet versus the pursuit of authenticity under a real mission I there's a huge difference I've stepped into corporate. Environments a lot and especially finance guys are some of the worst fucking people. Ever. In the sense of you know they're not funny. They have no sense of humor. I told bankers to get the fuck out of my office like fifteen minutes late just to get some. Payback and how many times they've screwed good people over So the the company itself in this sense of any company and how you going to create that environment. I don't like. This standard. Corporate Tampa ties system that people work through it's It's really. It's confusing to me as well because you know when people are fake yeah. You know when you're having a conversation with some executive and he's like, Oh, yes susie your incredible asset to the company and it's like you don't know who that person is they. It's it's inauthentic. It's fake in I would hate to go to work in a place like that every day and most people do yeah. Yeah. That's that's a giant problem with human beings. Today's most people don't have a purpose they don't feel good about what they're doing you know. It's that thorough quote most men live lives of quiet desperation. And that that is real man that that's really what a lot of people are going through every day just not having any real. Real connection to what they're doing where they feel good about it. They feel like they have a purpose they feel like it makes like they matter like they really do matter you know, and then when a lot of these people and they wind up getting fired by their company. After thirty years of working there and they realize that they didn't they were nothing they. They didn't mean anything. It wasn't important. It's devastating I think a lot of people that can come to that social contract and like this is what you have to do the nine to five kind of thing when not to be a fatalist but something like my positive mindset like. We're all born terminal the second week womb. We're GONNA fucking die and I've always wanted to be super proud because I think there's certain aspects of the former jobs I had. You have to kind of agree and becomes with the fact that there's a high probability of dying and or life changing events and I think once you realize that it's not a matter of. If. It's GonNa Happen. It's when whether that's when I'm sixty and have a heart attack where I lived to be ninety or I die tomorrow and that drives me every single day because I look back and go I don't WanNa miss out in this crazy thing called life. You know you have one chance to live this. Cool. fucking experience whether or not you believe in afterlife or not. But we're all GONNA die. It's very bizarre for me that people don't take Lisa face because it gets. So trepidation in everything that they do and well, what if they hate that uncomfortable? Feeling these fucking punched in the face and Cook it. But his roots people, they grow roots before they know what they actually want to do when I mean by that is look you go to college right and then you have student debt. So these are ruth's right. Now you have to pay off that student debt. So you have these obligations then you get a job and maybe lease a car maybe you get an apartment now have roots you have you have bills you have to pay you have obligations that you can't shirk. So you may maybe you try to save save. Save ten percent of your income every week. So you putting it away put into and you realize how quickly that goes away taxes in you find yourself five, six, seven years in. You'll have to make a change, but you have all this shit that you're paying for, and then you reward yourself for this terrible job you hate by getting a new car or maybe you you buy a fucking boat or you know this do and then you're thirty eight and you're like. God. Damn it. I fucking hate my life but now maybe you have a child, maybe you're married maybe your wife doesn't work anymore because she's pregnant and he like fuck like what am I going to do with my life and then you find yourself stuck and you take pills you take antidepressants he'd do something in this is this is the story of the American life that is untold in. This is a lot of people's existence they find themselves in this meaningless path. And then they hear about guys like you and they get excited like maybe figure this out and some of them do and some of them start a business in the garage and some of them get together with their friends and say, let's with partner up. Let's do something and let's take a chance like let's plan in two years from now we'll. We'll. We'll make the leap it started online. Let's do something and. That's the that's the real American dream is finding independence being your own boss finding something that you really love just doing a job finding a job that actually means something. It's like finding the excuse to do it and I think there's two avenues there. You can always find excuse not to do something. Right if you look for the exclusive, why you should your output's going to be so much better and I've had that conversation with people where they say I just don't have the time you can always find time to work out like you, WanNa. Be Your fitness goals find a fuck in retention abandoned kettle. Bell and we'll fuck you up trust me give me thirty minutes and I think that's applicable to. Anything and everything. If he wanted to get into music, you can find twenty minutes in the day or get twenty minutes less asleep to practice your guitar or learn graphic design. The opportunity is out there especially with the technological ehrlich everything's free right. Now, you can go on Youtube and become a master in any any technical skill for the most part you might not have the accreditation of degree, but it's there the information's there. The only inhibitor is you these I don't have the time people don't know what the fuck they're talking to my. Can Find You some folks I can find my friend campaigns. That motherfucker works a full time job eight hours a day often runs a marathon a day right, and then he goes at home and then shoots his bow for hours and then he lifts weights. So shut the fuck up and this there's people find time that's like over and over and over. It's Cam I love following cam because guess what it's nothing positive comes out mouth. He's frigging a Rockstar when it comes to all of the things that you just mentioned guys like that exist we don't have to be. A Gauguin's or Hanes or a Dudley or any of these guys it's a matter of. He man, you WanNa make some changes. You're going to have to also risk a little bit too and that's one thing we're GonNa have to experience discovered. You're going you're going to have to suck it up. It's going to hurt a little bit. You know if if you want to have stronger legs, you know squats aren't the best fucking thing in the world to do you know twice a week or once. His infield. Good. That's the way your legs get strong. We get stronger don't grow from being comfortable. It doesn't work that way. You got experience that awful feeling. That's why most people don't grow. Growing gravitate towards comfort on. That's one thing I will say about this is. Combat to me. taught me so many different things about myself but the one thing that I taught me was that life is finite in in order to live in order to live, you gotta risk. You GotTa risk it and you got sock a little bit. You know for the payoff at the end you know that last minute of light that you have in this in this world. You don't WanNa be sitting there doing an audit of all the things you should have done. That would be the fucking worst. That's I. really the only thing. I truly truly fear in life is to be on a deathbed and go I should have done this I'm sure they'll be small things but that that change that's the driving force everything in my life I don't the regret. Not, even a letter. got. You know there's the things where it's like I want to jump out of planes I want to. Experience a foreign language I, WanNa, I, WanNa go to. When you look at those things a younger when I looked at them as as a younger man now look at them now I'm not gonNA be. You know whatever age it is thinking back my man I really wish I would have tried to be a commando what Ever. got that. now I can focus I. think a lot more my energy on how do we? You know become a better father how to become a better business odor a better friend. But. I didn't leave anything on the table. The previous twenty years I didn't leave any of that shit on the table going man I really wish I would've done that now man like I pushed it as hard as I could with. With whatever was given to me like I did the best that I could with what I got in an honestly I'm probably about I'm operating I think at about one hundred, fifty percent right now I'm over extending what capacity I have appear to put it all together like it's honestly I'm just trying to fuck and run it as hard as I can because the machine. That I was given is like I'm very fortunate I understand that, but I gotta run this thing way past its capability to get the most out of it. Now, there's some guys that. You'll either fee knobs and they're much more intelligent than I. Am that would be you know one of the things I joke around I. Say he's like Man I'd love to be an astrophysicist. Unfortunately, I'm just not that bright. So enough to settle of what fuck I'm doing. Yeah. The theoretical businesses would be fucking awesome. I love to do that. No know no I think you've found the right spot. That's I. Think People find the right spot if you if you put enough attention to what you're doing and you gravitate towards what you love, you find the right spot. Yeah you do you. Do I used to think that I was a giant loser because I couldn't work a job because I was like I'm just too lazy. I'm just too undisciplined I really think that and then I realize like, oh no, I'm not lazy. I just hate things that suck right You're probably creatives. Yeah. It was same as me once I figured out like the things that I love them like Oh look also I'm not lazy anymore now chest and. I used to think that was a weakness that like, Oh, I'm not discipline. I'm just obsessed I'm just a crazy person. So if I find something that I like, I can get really good at it because I'm crazy and then I realized Oh, all that shit that they tell you about like Adhd hyperactive not being paid attention that's actually of energy right? Don't want to sit in a fucking chair when you're ten years old while some person who doesn't give a fuck about you or what they're teaching is rambling on in front of you and you just going crazy you can't wait to get out of there and the. Doctor's like this man needs to be on some medication. His young man has problems paying attention. He should. He should. Well, he's got goddamn chance because he can maybe he could fucking rocket out of the system maybe he's got enough energy to get away for the gravity of this bullshit that you're teaching them every day. So instead of saying Oh this girl needs to be on medication maybe that girl has a god chance of escaping the hell that you live in right? I couldn't I can't agree more in that I. Think all of us have this like ball of fucking energy and it zaps everything around us, and if you try to point it in a direction where it doesn't work like I, could never be a finance guy could never be a numbers guy not any of that I am to fucking Adhd. But what that allows me to do is think in the clouds and be super creative and right and build content music and all these things and we had a really cool exercise in the business. We did kind of like remember when the problem yet creative. Problem Solving and we had to take this pretty intricate test and it was the best one I've ever done. But it pretty much kind of tells you where you live as far as if you're like an idiot or developer and all these characteristics of your brain, and that's kind of how you build a team 'cause Evans like an implementer he's like get this fucking shit done and I'm more of like a idea where I'd come up and develop ideas but then I don't have the the follow through at least on the business side and so learning about yourself just because you live in cloud doesn't mean that. You have adhd need to take anti friggin whatever I see this terrible idea of how to how to develop human beings. There's not a kid in the world that wants to say the desk eight hours a day. There's not a kid in the world now, not normal, but those they do great. There's a big system for you write. Them I don't know how. They probably like doesn't mean that you can't be an accountant or an astrophysicist like Geneva activity. Yeah. Children are deprived of activity most of the day I en- I should have been out like Porta Jing boats unlike really nasty out the you know in in British Columbia somewhere by some asshole dude was you know here's ten minutes worth of work. Now you're just GonNa work you into the ground to. Say that it's. That's that that's the level of I guess patients that I had for any of it in the sense of. You can't sit a kid headed dusk released kids like me for six or eight hours a day anybody in this nobody. Now, my daughters are my daughter's six years old. Now we're just having this conversation about schools VTC because of you know Kovac. Man She's six years old and you want her to sit in front of a laptop for six hours a day. You should watch those classes that in while my ten year old was at school and I watched how the teachers talk and I watched like what was going on like Holy Shit and she looked at me she goes it's boring. She's looked up at. So are they just talking monotone well in Texas they let them go to school right? She's. In school here she goes to actual school you know and my twelve year old goes to school next week she was doing video for the first couple of weeks and they're easing back in school. This is this is a travesty these kids are getting a specially kids in public school systems especially, kids that have working parents this is fucking devastating devastating devastating and it's GonNa fuck up their development for years to come because if you if you like if you. took six months and didn't learn anything for six months that Fox who your development guess what that's what happened. Yeah. That's what happened a lot of these kids. They're not learning ship and they're sitting in front of the laptop they're barely paying attention. You can't expect kids to sit in front of a laptop. Terrible it's a terrible idea and it's a terrible way to experiment on kids which is you're you're pulling this out of your, you know your plan this out of your ass. Yes I think this is GonNa work. Let's put them in front of a laptop and we're going to sit in there for six or eight hours a day or whatever it is. We're going to give them lunch break. Having this conversation with my wife Mc this is a horrible idea that they're experimenting with kids just ultimately, you have to give them some type of pre existing assignments, but you can't sit them in front of a laptop. The other thing is I don't want to teach my kids how to sit in front of a laptop for six hours a day to give them the discipline to do that. They were telling my daughter, she eat lunch and. The, same thing that you have to get in front of the laptop yes. have to see you eat lunch. I know you don't. Let me talk to teach the fuck. OUTTA. Here you don't have to eat lunch in front of the laptop come sit at the kitchen table. Let's talk what's like the desired outcome in that form of education. They're they're assholes. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. This is all making it up on the go the they could justify in some way the kids should eat lunch in front of a laptop instead of eat lunch at their kitchen table. Why why? Them. You could see them eat launched the fuck out of here and why why would you ever think that's acceptable to do this in The teachers have any oversight either someone teachers are so bored. They're so bored and boring and I've watched them talk rude to the kids like this is gross. This is it's so bad for them. When at least now? At the one Shining Star I will say to this is that hopefully we come out of this with the ability of some type of home schooling system that actually works because the one thing about home schooling for the nation is. With the one stereotype of home schooled kids. It's we've all kind of religious psychos. Yeah. Right we're. We're we're at least living in a time where hopefully this catches up and we can educate children from our home and maybe a balance between the homeless school. Now take that gives them some form of adjustment that works for them. That's the one thing I will say about this God, this has been a good thing. I from from a perspective of from in my life, which is I don't travel as much. Chopped a bunch of travel out of my schedule my wife stays home with the kids. I've been home with the kids way more than I have in the last five years. In it's it's it's forced us to look inside the family a lot more than you know on the go constantly driving outside of the family doing things outside of the family it's really forced us to be a I think a much tighter family unit with the with the four of us. And I'm always trying to find the positive in it regardless like I'm not I'm There's plenty of negative out there. We've all talked about it and hear it on the fucking news every day. I will say. The forcing function and all of this is made my family I think tighter much tighter. I. Hope it has for a lot of other people but I know it's been very detrimental to a lot of family units to because they have a lot of financial, their financial issues they have. Domestic violence issues for my family it it's really forced us to look. Inside and really work on us, and so I can say we're GONNA try to come out of this much better family. Let's like all struggles right some struggles make a better person some struggles destroy. Yeah and it really depends on what the struggle is and where you're at when you come into it and I think for a lot of people, this is a real eye opener about your health and that's what I'm hoping that more people pay attention to your your body. There's a direct correlation between your health and your ability to overcome diseases and I. I really really hope that that message gets out there that more people understand that if you are beasts if you are obese if you do have a bad diet. These are things you can handle. You can do something about this, and this is the wake-up call please like fucking take care of yourself because. It may be the difference between cashing this shit and living through it, and maybe in some cases breezing right through it like I have a bunch of friends that caught it and like yeah to call for a day, what the fuck is going on quite a few friends that had a cough for a day and felt like shit for two or three days afterwards, and then we're done with it and we're working out five days later. On healthy fans to their athletic took off the little bit Kinda. Felt sick one day the next day I was fine. Paul Rodriguez. Okay. WHO's a friend of mine? WHO's a comedian? He's I, mean Paul's got to be in his sixties right? He was famous in the fucking seventies Paul Paul I tested everybody We did this comedy store documentary attested while he was the only one who tested positive. For. The antibodies and I go when you got it and he goes I don't know. Because I think I had a cold in February. He's like he had a cold for a couple of days and he was he you know he fucking parties and. He's not out there eating grass fucking doing squats. He's. He's he's having fun. He's a comic. You know raise a real old school comic getting down partying fine. Walked it off. I mean what the fuck is going on, but for people that are unhealthy really hope that this is this is the wakeup call take care of your Goddamn body take care of health. Some vitamin D zinc and see and and just make that a priority make it a priority to. Whereas if you got sick you not worried. It's interesting too because a lot of things that people rely on as far as substances will absolutely go away if you follow a healthy and exercise routine. I the Fauria and like what how I feel post workout is one of the most amazing feelings I've ever had. So it's not only a bodily function. It's more. It's a cognitive as well just all the endorphins get and you're like I'm ready for the day and then you feel accomplished. I mean it's like incremental success makes great success and those little winds throughout the day I think working out as one of them more people need that feeling of. Fuck I feel good. Yup. Food is probably the most overused tool to deal with anxiety and exercise is the most underused tool to deal with depression and those two things like food fuck you up if you just eat to cool calm yourself. Yeah. And exercise will help you in a gigantic way if you use it to to deal with depression and anxiety and everything. So let me ask a question though because I've heard you talk about it on the show. Which? Why is it that we can't have that national conversation? Why? What do you think are? We just had the presidential debates last night but why is it not? fucking. Instagram I'm like, maybe they don't need me need big John, McCarthy John McCarthy. Get even nearly. He's like the most authoritative UFC referee because he was a cop right here he's. Over there like he fucking controls the situation you know he would have controlled that. Men. Why can't we have the conversation because you can't be mean can't say hey stop Chevron. And fucking saturated bullshit and fucking oils in vegetable Greece, all the crap and fucking all the nonsense people stuff in their face stop stop doing that your fat. fucking you. Yeah. There's a fucking picture man from the nineteen early nineteen hundreds. A guy at a carnival and he's the the fat guy at a aside show right and he's a normal fat guy for today if you looked at this picture and. He was an exhibit. who was so fat that people like Holy Fuck look at this guy. See when Disneyland was opened, you could see a hundred of those guys rolling around on scooters. He's a normal person today like a normal overweight person because people didn't have the access to bullshit back then like to get that fat was hard right when you don't have that kind of sugar in your diet, you know the the the the amount of gluten and grains and fuck and nonsense that people eat today it's so easy to get that fat but back, then it was really hard. See if you can find that picture Jamie typed it in and I found a lot of giant guys. Back, then. Find the one. That was a the guy was. In a sideshow. Type to find that particular. Huge alive seven hundred pounds. Well, go to the upper left hand corner look at that guy that guy you could find anywhere to yeah. Yeah you can. You can cruise down. That was a sideshow guy that's a sideshow guy back then herald huge but that's drawing unfortunately the. Guy Up there. Go to that guy back above that. Go to that Guy Right there that guy's fucking right down the street go to the barbecue store. Store. Restaurants guys waiting in line for Bread Texas how do you change that? Right? Where if you say something like that, you'll have people that are heavier and say you're fat shaming man and. I'm doing but yeah, that's how you feel bad. You feel bad if someone fat James You and then you make decisions. You can't fat comfort. That's the thing. That's nothing. Fatman at the Circus Jesus Christ like as your. This subculture that we grew up in right in our twenties when we're eighteen to twenty thirty, whatever it was like we have, we would have guys slapping food out of your hands and going fatty because in the mill. It back in the back in the day in seeing back in the day right. I guess at some makes me sound old but I know enough to say that yeah, we're washed up. You could fat shame. The shit out of people. That's just the way it worked, which was hey, fatty and if you meeting task or tasks condition standard. You'd have guys in NCO's noncommissioned officers in your chow line selecting your food for you going. You're going to eat this. You're not gonna eat this and then people would go to eat something in the literally slap it out of your face go you're you're you're not eating that. Now There's these discussions and in use you read it in all of a sudden. We're bad people because we want people to be healthier if we if we say, Hey, that person's obese or that's fat and that's unhealthy. Did it how did how did this turn to people trying to be nice because people? That's all it is. They think it's good to be nice and it is good to be nice. But the the reality is when you're mean to someone about certain things that you actually can change because one thing is like you say to someone you got a stupid fucking knows man. Can't do anything about you knows. But if you say to someone like you brought your fat as fuck and then they have to feel like Oh my God I hate being fat mega choice make a choice. Do something well, is it better to be nice to someone about that? Yes. Most certainly is it better? If you have a friend and I've had friends that have pulled aside listen man you got to lose weight got to do something lose weight you know how many of them have done that? Zero Yeah. Did don't listen like the only time it ever works is when the person decides that they want to make a change and oftentimes that comes from pain and oftentimes that comes from being mocked and Yeah it's not nice. It's not nice to Fab. Shame some not nice as dying at Diet Yeah especially if it's coming from an epithet empathetic personal position, you're like I'm saying this because I want you to live which means. I. Like you. But the thing is people are lazy and when you tell them that they're fat all people like to consider as you are shaming person because of their body shape and that's terrible and that's awful. That's true. But if you also say to that person like, Hey, I love you I care about you but I'm going to be honest with you your fattest fuck and you need to lose weight that's also fat shaming well. This is very few ways to get through to someone if someone's drunk a fucking alcohol and they get drunk every night, you pull them aside and go hey man. You are a fucking drunk and you need to stop you need to get your shit together and they feel bad because they love you Evans says I'm drunk I respect Evan Fuck what am I doing Goddamn and I, GonNa get my life together somehow that's okay. But telling someone that fat fuck is not okay because you're fat shaming. Bad because of their addiction to food versus their addiction to alcohol a good. If you see someone smoking everyday. Hey, those fucking things are gonNA kill you. Are you cigarette shaming what? What are we doing here? Evan told me drink too much whiskey at one point I said you're you're offending me it's you're being your shaming alcohol shaming me. He actually told me that he identified with somebody that doesn't drink at all. Identifies. A non drinker. Line is this whiskey identifies water. So you're argument is invalid Evan. That they're using gender neutral language in the seals now. Called it made it all the way to sense of Jaakko senator goggles and I was like what the fuck is this shit I was the same I. I was I was texting talking Jaakko this morning. Because they did you did you read it where they Senate gender-neutral? Identifies him or her it's there. They've changed this entire I think it's a that get in there. How'd that get all the way to the seals? How did someone say hey, fuck you I think that it's the same way that most of these policies kind of a bypass logic they go through some type of bureaucratic mechanism where somebody thinks it's a good idea and typically this is going to be an officer that's looking to be promoted of some merit where they're. GonNa go I'm going to change this. This is going to be a good thing for my career because this is where I'm going to hang my hat on this I'm GonNa look. Look progressive I'm GonNa look really good for the rest of the commission resonate with the rest of that culture. Yeah we're living in right now people are Gonna go even the seals are being progressive directly and that I think that's how it happens when you gone down the bad guys were they. What were you? Thoughts, ridiculousness of it I mean these are like trained warfighters doing was difficult jobs on the planet and we're GonNa bring you know bureaucratic like weird fucking bullshit into it. It's like, no we're training them to do the world's worst act, which is another human being in in hopefulness that it's saving more human life I mean this is not a PC job getting trained with hand grenades, rocket launchers guns to put night-vision and sneak into houses and shoot motherfuckers in the face and the danger is wrecked if you do. Make politically correct. You're going to cost U S servicemembers, lots the problem, and then if you bring all this bullshit into it, then you're decreasing survivability in the training that these guys and gals need to succeed and be a high functioning unit to live. This is not a game of like sensitivity. This is the game of life and death and people will say, Oh, you're exaggerate he's not gonNA cause people lives to be polite and use non gendered language. Now, this is one step on a in greased up hill. and. This is what happens. If you let shit get in there, it's going to be like people used to say like why does anyone care but what goes on in college campuses? This is not happen in the real world stop about like leftist ideology that's permeating school. Well, look at what happened in Seattle look what's going on in Portland that shit bleeds out into real life and if that shit bleeds out into the seals, you got real problems well I i. think that's a really good point from. The entire warfighter and when we look at the entire warfighter cross, America, we have a very small subsection of of guys that carry the the lion's share of the war fighting and you know the special operations community the infantry in the combat arms. So when we look at that, that's a really small number of guys. And to Matt's point, it's the most politically incorrect profession. In. The United States quite possibly in the world because what you're doing is you're taking human life you can't have these two things. You can't be politically correct and shoot people in the face you can't have both I'm sorry America you can't have the to. You have to have your warfighters that are out there. Especially when you're America, you have to have the guys that are trained to go out. At night and do this every fucking night. And take it to every terrorist every bad guy internationally to protect you your sleeping beds. You have to do that. You can't have a politically correct warfighter knock knock I'm sorry you identify as a as an is a politically correct nonviolent terrorist I. Guess we'll move onto the next house that doesn't work. It's completely illogical. You can't fight wars with the politically correct attorney and guess what they're not politically correct. That you're opposing these these fucking dictators and these. All these different terrorist organizations they're not playing by those rules. If you play by those rules, you're handicapping yourself and it's just. It's just nonsense. It's nonsense and the those type you'll you have no regard for human life you know and I've seen it. Personally, when politics get involved in wars, it kills people I mean, I have a few instances where there were. You Know You can't drop ordinance on guys you just got ambushed by because the local village said, you can't use you know bombs from planes like we one of our guys just got shot. We killed the three ran out the front door but the six that ran out the back door I'm just supposed to let them go live from an ethical perspective. They're going to go do this again and I. Hope they don't go plant bombs and blow up a whole. You know engineer vehicle and kill six Americans like where's the efficacy in that because you didn't want to offend somebody politics don't work in war obviously, you need rules and regulations an Roi in things that you know. But that's where the training comes in your acting on ethical basis on the ground. But again, I don't think anybody understands if you haven't been there how dynamic and complex these situations when it's completely dark, you're under night vision laser and you're having to make moments seconds milliseconds to make a decision whether you survive or you don't. It's there's no black and white with that. It's very complicated and that goes back the whole thing you got to look out for veterans and post service because they're putting some very, very, very difficult situations. Yelling at someone giving orders, you can't ask them what pronouns they use. And they're GONNA AND DECEIVE You know I might not learn squalor got killed because of that. We did a call out and they said known was in the building they they they swore to a law and all this stuff and we went in there and we got hemmed up really really bad. So you know. There's no, there's no moral like decision making on their side as far as better. Tell the Americans were we are pointed in this building with AK47's and suicide vests. No, they're gonNA lie balls off because they're trying to fucking kill us. When I think that When the expectation for? The the overall know the the warrior class really would it is for them to. Adapt to this politically correct culture. It's it's we've seen it I think and I've seen it especially when we look at some of the other countries that we actually have fought with. Some of these guys have to come to the United States for instance, to get really good weapons training because weapons are illegal in places like the UK. So you'll have British soldiers that'll come over here. Especially, their special forces they'll come and train with us because they have restrictions on how often they can use firearms in the UK. So a great that's a great plan. Let's make all firearms illegal by the way our special operations have a hard time training with them, and there's a very distinct in huge difference between the proficiency, the way that they're utilizing their weapons and the that we do it because of our culture. So our warrior, class? As a society we we really have to look at it and say, how do we protect them? You know in in if we're going to continue to maintain. Our sovereignty and say security of the nation we really have to create a place where these guys are not affected by the bullshit that goes on in the United States as far as you know woke cancer culture bull. Shack we've got to protect them from this and we've also got a just decide that. These guys are trained at a high proficiency level to do something exceedingly difficult and we want to keep them. We want to keep them over there like they are a break glass in case of war and now wars of just perpetual essentially. So keep them separate from the rest of this because we really want those guys to be proficient. So we can go to bed every night and Kinda rest easy. You know what I mean things you talked about about where this probably came from. It's a recurring in Jack carrs books as well is that there's these officers that are career politicians. Really, that are also in the military and they're really just trying to advance their career and it's it's one of those archetypes that resonates like I. Bet that guy's real like it make sense. It makes sense as sort of an evil sort of a bullshit artist that happens to be an officer and claims responsibility for all the good things and doesn't take responsibility for the bad things winds up getting people killed or ones that being corrupt how often is that really the case? It's it's often and. We run into and I've described it a lot as. You have a group of it can be noncommissioned officers or officers in you have. Guys. noncommissioned. Officers are guys that have enlisted in the military. And they they they went to college didn't go to college but they've enlisted and they've worked their way up through the ranks officers have gone to college they've gone either ROTC or the academy, and there's very two distinctly different ranked ranking systems. So enlisted I just go down, raise your hand, join the military work your way up The officers are typically in charge of the NCO's nuts most of the time. There are some special operations unit were units where that's a little bit more fluid. By any government bureaucracy specifically in the military, and I think even in the intelligence community, you have you have personality types just like you do in any organization, you have the mission I guys people they're like I'm ready to fucking do whatever it is. I need to do in order to accomplish the mission they're the. They're the bread and butter of what's happening overseas, and there's a ton of those guys. And then you have a minority of mies. In the me's are the guys that are I'm here to elevate and rank. I'm here to shirk responsibility and make sure that I take responsibility for others for other people's actions and I'm here to be a careerist essentially and I'll do anything to kit promoted. To include what they call throwing our guys under the bus. So. Andy. Stops good example. He was an officer, but he he you would never know that right he see would never throw his guys under the bus. Jack was a great example. He never throws guys under the bus. You know good leaders eat last they're not careerist. They're not trying to do anything or say anything in order to get promoted their mission I very capable and driven people that ultimately don't care if they get credit for what happens in most the time those guys sacrifice their career and their promotions. Because they're gonNA always default to what's right. The ME's are always going to default to what's best for me, and what happens is those me's start to get a they move up much faster and more effectively than the mission guys and the subsequent effective that what you see is you had the guys that are moving up in ranks and then it is a massive. Downside to the guys that are mission first because they want to focus on their team and getting what they need to get done done and then. Pretty, much get out of the military because they're like. I don't like this political crap I hear that all the time from. Yeah. It's a big the retention on a lot of the really great guys and gals serve I think is directly correlated. Me People. Because they're essentially all about professional progression rather than how do we do the best mission and then give the team everything's a team effort in you can't accomplish your own really just like a podcast you need the producer you need the book like it's a team effort and tree have the leader. But when you have the officer types and even some Ios that are. I did it and they put a lot of guys at risk where they'll do dumb shit on target or I. It happened to me whereas like A. Land Sea and Air Movement for the sake of doing it and I was the routes and McKay. Why aren't we landed on the extra the why? Like we're good to go like sixty s submarine like shut best. This is what we're doing and it was essential because an officer wanted to use his rangers by Lancy or air for whatever no right up that he might get a bronze star for when the only thing that happened was risking the lives of Americans and special operation guys because you just made them move x amount of clicks farther on that movement to target which you know I. Their. Checks and balances to eliminate those guys or to make sure that those guys get exposed because I would imagine that for the the enlisted men and for the NCO's for all the people that have the right thoughts in mind and the right intentions in mind they would not want that to be there. I would imagine that that's the majority of the people. Yes and no I think that. That's why the special operations community has such a high rate of volunteer because they're escaping the conventional military where there's more careerism in the conventional military and when you go to the special operations. World. There's less of that you're more of it's more of a pure system. It's driven on the individual capabilities in the sense of this is my team everything that I do is going to be evaluated by my team, and ultimately, if I'm an officer that's that's messed up can be fired. My team can fire me. There's less of that in the conventional military system because there's a hierarchy of tradition Now I think. The conventional military can definitely take a page out of the Special Operations Community Book and ultimately make really good decisions on how they select officers and leaders just in general because. Leadership is. One it's A. It's a dying art in in. I. Think just it's a dying art in general because you what's happening well. Yeah the military has an incredible institution of knowledge on how to really curate good leaders they do. in the Special Operations Community of, of course, I'm biased but they create incredible leaders. They re they they. They know how to really curate people's talent and put the right people in the right positions and then develop leaders. that's why Jaakko does so well, bringing that knowledge to to business and doing all these speeches or he's so well sought after because they they wanna hear a real leader they do in the with the highest stakes in the world combat and talking about what leadership entails. Absolutely, and and for my example made earlier, that was a a one off I, mean the leadership that came out of range of Italian I mean that I couldn't be more thankful to be a part of that unit and you see a lot of those those guys that work their way up through the ranks and rain time move on to tier one units and do have extraordinary heroic careers and It is you can. Definitely. Tell the cultural differences from special operations leadership to the conventional on, and that's not a knock on the conventional because I think if you raise your right hand your epic but I think there's some some knots to be untied with some of the leadership in career career officers because there's a certain point probably when you star, you're no longer in officer your your politician, your appointed by politician Russell wants your move up past certain rank, your essentially appointed by politicians. and which now, every forty eight years obviously there's a rotation in how you're selected who is selected for what. So you'll start to see different aspects of the Officer Corps Shift based on administration because it's it's it's led. By the administration and then it takes a few years and then ultimately it goes back and forth and back and forth. but you know to go back to your original question is how do you continue to develop that? I think the checks and balances are It's a, it's a it's a very traditionally based organization read. The military's is is incredible a lot of different things. In one thing that there has to be there has to be somewhat of a firewall from what's happening in the newest trend and you know the newest trend in social science and how it affects. Our military I think they're really has to be a big wall as far as what's affecting it and what isn't And I think that. Is Far as how we get the right people in the right places in the military. Boy that. That's a that's probably a three our podcast in itself as far as unpacking that they're so incredible and. Not to take away from anything that's happening but. The there are some incredible people that continue to serve in the most. Honorable Capacity in the United States military day in and day out their mission I people that we never hear about that go through twenty. Thirty years of career they retire and they move in next door and you'd never know what they did. And Those are the guys that you know when we when look at the community when we look at what we're doing. Just in general. those are those the guys I really respect. In this sense of you know we have our subculture friends but. You know the people are trying to earn our respect for the guys that. We know have always served in silence that are the silent professionals that continue to do the work day in and day out, and if we have their respect in, we can continue to promote in different aspects of what they're doing their mission. We do that all the time and when we do that what I mean by that is. No. We. Whether it's donating money or time or all the things that we try to do. We've we've shipped. Thousands of bags of coffee overseas to is that are serving the country, our friends that are in command driven units that are doing really difficult work and our little our little sacrifice that we make. It's really nice sacrifice our little commitment to them as shipping coffee. How do we dedicate more time and money and encouraged the good people serve the country day in day out that her really. They're the heroes right when when we look at this. You when I when I look at the seal team memo for instance and I say. There's a guy up there that made some change because he wants to you know get get a promotion, but that's not really going to change the teams. You know the teams are going to stay the same. Those guys are going to go to work every day just like they have they're going to be silent professionals you in very difficult work Dan Dow doesn't matter you fight you identify them as lamp or their dams or who's or whatever it is. They're going to still do the mission. Thank. Thank goodness they're doing that mission so. You know how do we just keep promoting it? Well, that's the fear that I have of people that don't have an understanding of this that are involved in policy. When you talk about people defunding the military and Y- when I talked to Tim Kennedy and he talked about the stark difference between the previous administration and when trump took over one thing say good things or bad things about trump all day long. But one good thing you can say is he gave the military the money that they needed and he let them off the leash he's he didn't politicize it. You just gave them the money that they needed. They stopped Isis in a year and he Talked about it in in great detail, he's like the difference was so stark between the previous administration and when trump took over in having the resources to do what they needed to do and the green light, and he's like we stopped Isis in a year there was no one isis camps that they wouldn't air strike because of politics and then when they transitioned over to kind of the ground force command level and said, what do we gotta do to wipe? Isis they go here's the plan go dead. Done that's the way it needs to be. Be. If. You WanNa stay safe. And not just US but other parts of the world when you have radical fundamentalists like that that are doing wild shit man and you could watch the videos that do get leaked I mean it's fucking horrific and the idea that somehow another. This these policies are dictated by people who don't understand what's happening there and not by military people not people that are on the ground. That's crazy. Why did I? I don't know exactly what the answer is to that, which is when you have professional politicians in specially career politicians. that really. They're fundamentally corrupted by ultimately that the military lobbying aspects of of of our country. They're going to be. Driven left or right and any one of these countries and and when I say that you know Afghanistan is a really good example. how many days did it take us to throw Afghanistan the Taliban Afghanistan? What one hundred fifty days now is back in two thousand September October November of two thousand one, right. So roughly ninety days after the towers went down, we invaded Afghanistan to overthrow. The Taliban took US less than six months to essentially go from north to south in that country with a small contingent of special operations and CIA guys. Roughly, give or take. Then you have a long term war of occupation lasted. Almost, twenty years now. and. We have this special operations units that essentially invaded overthrew the Taliban, and then we have a long term occupation and we have several different administrations that have continued to increase troops is to what reason. Why and then trump like him or not is saying, let's Let's downsize our troop involvement in Central Asia Afghanistan. The I think the only bipartisan agreement that they've had in the Senate and the Congress in the last six months was to maintain troop levels in. Afghanistan. Revert to what reason? Exactly. Why and when trump talks about it? This is where it gets creepy. He says, there is a military industrial complex that wants to go to war the. War going they want that money endless war and don't want the money. No one even brings it up the he says it and it doesn't become a big issue. He brought it up in an interview on Fox News and that was it. That was it and no one ever. Wasn't a giant deal like wait a minute. You're saying we're we have a large contingent of soldiers over there just for money. Is that what you're saying what are you saying? I think I think personally yes I think large scale wars of occupation are about the transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to the altering complex because I've seen it a small scale operations contingent as far as we'll use Afghanistan as the template. You can do a lot with a force multiplier it's by with and through your local national, your local nationals. I think it's it typically a more mature. Soldier that's already has a mature developed brain to by the way you know past age of twenty four typically special operations. Guys are a little bit older. and then you have a force multiplier effect. Ultimately, you don't have a large. Large scale war of occupation, which now you have eighteen year old kids that are driving around in tanks that are flying around and you know big robust see five logistics, but it's less. it's more cost effective to that. And? It's also not as I. I think. It's also not as politically advantageous for politicians. So people love to support and celebrate the previous administration for all the great things that Obama Dead Okay but he increased Troop levels in both Afghanistan they say well, you withdrew from Iraq but no, we we had another surge in Iraq after that. And we surged NEFF Ghanistan after that. Will. There's really not a coherent and logical argument that I can hear or that I've heard in the last ten years that that I've either been enough Ghanistan or Iraq for large-scale military occupational force in either one of those countries. So when you have a president that saying I, think we should. Downsize our footprint. And you don't have. You don't have the left or the right supporting that it seems fucking crazy to me. It seems. It seems crazy in to where where are media outlets? Where are the other people saying maybe we should break this down and look like in and look at it from. The second and third order of facts of of a troop downsize can we still maintain the sovereignty in the security of the United States at more cost effective rate meaning less blood less treasure? Can we do that? My answer to that is absolutely we should be able to do that absolutely but you know why we can't. Because it's more cost effective. For us to have special operations smaller contingent in it's. Less, it's more costly to move big logistics. You know tanks and airplanes and fuel and everything else. That's where taxpayers you. You're you as a tax payer or essentially pain to fund all of that, and that's that's my. That's my two cents on it at least. It's crazy. It's crazy that that's both Democrats and Republicans, and that there's no one step stepping up and saying, this is nonsense we stopped doing this. And I don't understand. I don't exactly understand why either I really don't because I keep waiting. Waiting for the congressman and the senators and a few of these other people to step up and say wait a minute. Can We? Can we decrease our footprint in these countries and still maintain security in ultimately protect the sovereignty the United States I think we can but nobody is stepping in to the shoot after trump and essentially backing him and saying, yes, I think this is going to get worse. The left should be all over them. They should be, hey, less war right I. mean this is the hippy movement like less wars good. No, you had the left fighting him over his his Syrian troop withdrawal, which is. Insane to me that you had media outlets were. The increase of troop levels in Syria So. What I. Don't understand like, why is it just the sheer amount of money? So the influencing the politicians and the politicians, all uniformly agree to go along with this. What's it probably a large part of government contracts, right. Bullets, oil you know it all costs, money missiles in a lot of those government contracts ran by private east and the cash flow that goes the government they have to subsidize and go to other companies to get what they need and and there's a lot I mean hundreds of millions of dollars, trillions, trillions, and trillions of dollars overall scope. Senate rejects Paul Proposal and withdraw troops from Afghanistan That's Today. No. July I'm sorry. And what was the vote on that I forget I know Yeah. So where they agree so we can where they agree is we need to maintain. or increase or maintain troop levels in Afghanistan where we can get everybody to agree. That, that sounds that's completely rational. ARGUMENT FOR IT. What is there I? Mean I don't know what like especially coming from the left I have heard the argument in its to maintain stability because they don't want the state to ultimately collapsed in 'cause a failed state, which then puts us back into the previous stance where it. where the Taliban content continued increase in in increase their power ultimately developing a new terrorist organization or harboring terrorist organizations in my answer to that is. You don't need tanks on the ground to do that. You need a bunch of commandos and if and if you guys this twenty-three provinces in that country, it's really not that big. You have Pakistan obviously, if you these bordering countries but you don't need a large-scale occupational forced to do what you're talking about, what sort what what does the large scale occupational force serve from my perspective it serves. It serves the transference of taxpayer dollars from the tax payer into the military industrial complex. That's what it serves. Now, the argument is, is that they need all of this in order to maintain stability within Afghanistan. That's the argument they need all of it. It's not a good argument. I don't think. So because I I think that they've proven that they can. They can if the mission or the end state and that's the other issue. What's your success criteria? So lay out the success criteria for Afghanistan have you ever heard that the United States government success criteria offer for Afghanistan. No right and that's because there really isn't one in which is a fucking problem when our leaders. Go. To War without success criteria it's really easy to maintain a military footprint for an endless amount of time because you're always chasing a new definition for what it means to succeed. There's no definition of when there's no end to it. So why is there not minimum success criteria? Is something that you need to have an anything what do I need in order for this organization to deem? itself. Success. The expectation for or our politicians and our leaders is they have to publish minimum success criteria for any were they ever go into and then once we meet that. There needs to be opposed to fact plan as to how the hell do we get out. So do you think is essentially what happens is the military industrial complex or the lobbyists or special interest groups they Do they make agreements with politicians. Do they communicate with politicians and tell them what their goals are in his here's where we're going to help you this. What we want you to do like how do they get them all to agree on this I think that they have a very complex way of organizing and funding think tanks the way that people think about. War. The way they think about stability I think that they have access. Right. So when you have access and most of these companies if you go to DC you know drive around look at what companies are inside the beltway look at what companies are are publicly traded publicly traded large companies within this this type of industry and they have access. And their entire monetization strategy and how they make money is requires war. So. How they continue to grow their company in profit. Directly. Is related to how much war his being conducted. So if they have close relationships with all of the politicians within DC, and their entire monetization strategy is built on on increased war. D Do you think they're working for the tax payer kind of withdrawal troops when I say that it's like it's it's it's directly contradictory to what I think. The majority of the public would like to see I think the majority of the public would like to see a decreased footprint. Decreased War especially large-scale. Occupational. and. They don't financially benefit from that. They it's it's contradictory. Would you like to hear trump talk about this? Oh, my gosh. I would love for any politician to keep talking about this. It seems like he's at least the only president in our recent lifetime yet it's actually brought up the fact the military industrial complex is actually influencing these decisions. I would love to have any politician especially trump or the the president talk about the military industrial complex and how how effected DC politics is and how effective we we are in the dod as as a nation in funding overseas wars and Say What you want and when I say that this far the the pro-trump anti-trump but you know. A lot of the left the they continues to. Parade around about what are the great things that Obama did he increased our work capacity overseas he didn't decrease it. Did He shut down Gitmo? Did he do any of these things that he said that he was going to do? For a group of people that claim that they're so anti. The one thing that they should be saying, Gosh, this guy might have a point. We might WANNA decrease our footprint overseas they don't. But to contradict what we were saying earlier, the benefit of trump was that he Added, funding the military gave him the green light. He'd let him off the leash like. Where do you draw the line? I think it's a more cost effective way to. So if you if you have minimum success criteria, for instance, in the case of Isis and Iraq, you have success criteria that are clearly laid out which is defeat. And Destroy Isis and eliminate any stronghold essentially any any occupied land that they have you go to work and you take it all away from them and then you're done. You leave. That's what you do and that's what they did essentially a now granted we still have force forces in Iraq, but not to the degree that we did when we are increasing push isis out. So with success criteria and ultimately clearly defined goals and objectives directly associated to any war that is a absolute expectation that we should have for any politician voting. Yes. And we should hold our politicians accountable for strict adherence to the success criteria. Any war the problem is, is they keep changing. Every two four years they keep changing the success criteria will that's endless war and he's right about that. These guys want endless war and both sides. So both sides wanted Democrats and Republicans why. Why do we want endless war in these places that doesn't make sense to me it really doesn't end the only thing that makes us since to me in this in this capacity is that. These. GUYS ALL HAVE A. Benefit or they're all being persuaded by the same organizations. To keep the troops and keep the transference of wealth from the taxpayer into the military industrial complex as fucking terrifying. Absolutely, it is. It is absolutely terrifying and we as a nation should be. We should be having that conversation. That's the conversation and I wanted to have as a nation versus the conversation we're having about. Crazy Shit. Like crazy unimportant shit. That's really. Honestly Boring. And I think it's I. Think it's a distraction and his sideshow to what's really happening. But it's just crazy that you're not hearing this conversation anywhere like this conversations happening on this podcast and its reach millions of people. Why is this unique? That's that's what's nuts. It's not says, this isn't on CBS or NBC or vice any of these places this is not in this long form, you're not getting this conversation. You're not getting it spelled out the way you just spelled it out. No and I, think that there's a vice maybe. Some. Pieces that I missed I'm sure they have and I'm sure there are a lot of people would love to debate me over what's actually happening. You'd be hard pressed to find people the with two guys sitting across the table add more experience specifically in these countries working these countries. I've seven and a half years in Iraq and Afghanistan and my life seven and a half years. In both military and as an agency contractor and when I look at what we do in in those in those. In those countries and I'm I'm not thinking about it in theory right I'm not thinking about in theory I'm looking at it saying this is what I saw this firsthand experience, and this is what I've kind of looked and being reflect on it for the last five, six years since I've. Left, the military and the Government Baylor reflect on it and really ask a lot of complex questions as to why do we keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and it's frustrating because I understand what it takes to stabilize these countries I see it and I also understand what doesn't work and we're doing a lot of shit that doesn't work on the hard part with that I think is there's been such a diversion away from the wars that. No one's actively thinking about how many us. Men Women, the military are currently deployed it. There's so much going on in the nation and that conversation even happening I'd venture to say most people like, Oh, we still got people in Afghantistan. Out on missions and stuff, and it's yeah. It's like an injustice to not have those conversations about what the end goal what is the success criteria for Afghanistan because I'm sure they want to go out and do their job and they're willing to risk their lives for it but what's the job? And you don't really see any of that coming out of what what? What What the end goal looks like, and if there is an end goal wiry, they're kind of thing. And I not I haven't heard it like. Nine from friends that are on the ground like they they have a They have our international strategic counter-terrorist objectives deny sanctuary for any terrorist organization it and I'm sure that we could pull up. But at the end of the day, we're occupying he foreign country with our military. We should be talking about this on a national level as to what what our goals, what our objectives, what are, what are success criterion when the fuck do we get out of this place like we should be having that conversation on a regular cycle because guys are still dying. You're still spending a lot of money and we're still spending a lot of our time and lives with men and women of the serve our country. These people are still getting wounded and killed in places like Afghanistan and we're not having in national complex conversation about it and it's it's crazy to me. It seems certifiable like as a country it's. Crazy, you need to have this conversation. It almost seems like it's too uncomfortable for people to discuss. And particularly because it's going on for so long since it's happened since two thousand one, it's so long it almost it almost seems like people just it's too much. They don't wise us I I don't know they just keep movement. It almost seems like that, and then obviously someone's taking advantage of that and profiting off of it. Lingered conversation. You'RE GONNA. Have kids that are going to have Ghanistan. There were from the from the first wave of soldiers that were fighting. Afghanstan you're you're having children, their children there were torn. Yes. After September eleventh, and now they're now they're there to to me as a guy that served in both those countries into me as a guy that loves our country. We really need to have that national conversation with somebody and say is this this is a generational war. Everyone is this something we really want to continue to pay for with our blood and our treasure is something we really want to do and. I think when obviously you know I'm bias but I think these are the important issues that we should be discussing. Right. So how much were do we really have? The, do we really have the patience for not necessarily the patients but how much were is really acceptable. In how do we elevate and have these complex conversations without the interference of people that ultimately profit from war to which is a i? Think that's that's the conversation we have to. We have to take that out an have this as a society and they don't have the interference of people who profit from our and that is something that's happening and it's happening behind closed doors. It's not happening in a transparent way. We can clearly see where the decisions are being made. It's happening by the influence of the politicians that are being influenced behind closed doors. Absolutely. If they're being influenced behind closed doors are also being influenced overtly through I would say. They're overtly being influenced by. Know think tanks and you know studies that are funded by you know large institutions that are geared to profit from this. So instead of the government spending its time really investigating and looking at complex war plans and how we pull out of these places, you know where? We're trying to figure out you know how we can change memos so we don't offend anybody. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. I never expected this conversation go down this road. But it makes sense. I didn't either actually we started. Listen for the next twenty minutes started talking about. Eating the. Right foods. That's the beauty of podcasts right? You just get a chance to talk. Let's wrap it up at that I mean, is there anything else you could save? Is there anything people can do about this or anything that you think people should be aware of that they're not other than what you just said. I think you know honestly I I don't know I I. Don't WanNa be defeatist. I think that it's one of those things and you've talked a lot about it and your podcast. The expectation for us to. Expect more out of our our politicians I think in in sourcing different different types of information from a wide variety of people I think for us. This is white noise right when you look at all the white noise issues that are out there we have big issues. You know we have big issues how the fuck do we get off this rock? There's a bigger rock coming towards us. That's a big one. Holy Shit. Do you think we should might figure that one out know but these are complex conversations that I think. We should hold our leaders accountable for sticking to the hard problems and having those conversations verses these. sideshow white noise conversations that ultimately are just a distraction from from what we as a nation should be making her government. Do for us, it's just such a complex wave. Such a complex web rather. So there's just so much the so much to thank of. It's almost impossible for a human being to look at the whole picture from from above and see all these different factors that are playing against each other. Oh, absolutely. I think we're it's mind numbing. You start to critically think about one thing and then the Jillian things that are going on in society it's Well, that's how they get this, right? Yeah. And good leaders are not financially motivated, which is almost impossible hostile. That's the thing is is getting the money out of politics because if they look at this and then go out to futile, already might as well just profit from it. Right When politics stopped becoming service to your country, it became political gain in monetary gain because you can get paid. But when. Politicians that the they make one, hundred, thousand dollars a year but they're worth one, hundred, million bucks. How the photos are possible yeah, and everybody's like. No nobody no one says, Hey, get in front of us and tell us exactly where you got that money. Down and tell us why is your husband worth this much or why is your life worth this? Much I understand you're only worth that much your wife's worth fifty million dollars. and. Your kids are all worth fifty, million, a piece or whatever it is. How does that happen? Yeah. Why is like? Why are we like whistling like looking around and pretending this stuff doesn't exist noble causes works for one hundred, thousand dollars and you're like he paid one point three million dollars in tax filings. Going on here man. Is going on. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Really appreciate. For the week is run your company thanks for the ethics and the just the way you guys carry yourselves I appreciate you guys very much and thank you actually want so awesome. All right. Bye Everybody. Thank you my friends tune into the show and thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to all form and they're amazing customized sofas made right here in America, using premium materials. 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The Tues Cruise: The Hunt for Red Brocktober

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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The Tues Cruise: The Hunt for Red Brocktober

"Welcome to the solid verbal. Ask Me Man. I'm forty. I've heard so many players say why one debate happy you want to be happy for day. Eight estate is that won't and welcome back to the sound burble crews boys girls. This is your captain. Ty Hildebrand is Vice Admiral. Dan Riba Seen Sir how promotion Russian Z'S INC probably a promotion yeah. That sounds right. I don't know what I did to deserve this type but here I stand on the deck saluting. Can you with my my eyes. Welling ready to accept the challenge the hoi one hall may tease. My name is Dan don't forget to this is so weird. I heard on the to keep it going. Thank you for setting sail with us here. It is the first of October as you're listening to this show which will get into momentarily early but this is the show if you're tuning in for the first time unlike our recap shows unlike our previous shows the twos cruises when we set sail for the truth. Oh we're out here in international waters where things get a Lou frisky this I mean everybody knows this breakdown hangs in the world of College Football Dan Yeah now. I'm very excited. We've got a jammed pack showed you. I'm coming to you live. I suppose not the listeners live but you live from my brother-in-law's childhood bedroom ed room the mean streets of suburban Chicago are you on. Are you on Lake Michigan F- Twenty Twenty five minutes away. Maybe if you're GONNA commit to to this bit Dan I expect houseboat digital recorder Middle Lake Michigan. There are more shipwrecks than I realize at at the bottom of Lake Michigan really so yeah. Oh yeah absolutely true so I feel like they're even though I'm pretty landlocked right now. I'm still connected to the voyaging life okay well. If you're listening for the first time don't forget to subscribe you can find us at Apple Google stitcher spotify tune in overcast. If you like the show give us a star review. If you WANNA give us a regular review. We're taking those as well. Don't forget you can find us out on read it at Salvador without read it Dot Com. It's teaming community over ballers. It's growing by the day bites over and getting very spicy friend Peter whose longtime and oil for baller Dan now as I said it is October first we had a great suggestion. Come in mad solvable at gmail.com really we get them mm-hmm with stunning regularity now that we have fully committed to this maritime bit yeah but this one in particular true reference to the fact that we are now in October we have woken up at the end of September and perhaps we should go with the hunt for red in October. I love that movie. Have you seen that movie. I don't like I have and we were debating between the hunt for Red October and Crimson tide which I thought which is what Gene Hackman Denzel Washington correct this is Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin Sean Connery Alec Baldwin Scott Glen. I watched the trailer and one trailers in the early nineties were so much worse. There is some genuinely bad acting even in the trailer where somebody is. I don't know if they're turning to sean connery but the line is something like. Don't you know it's a sabotage Josh waterfall and it's there you can tell that in the movie. There weren't a lot of crazy dramatic explosions so there's just a lot of big eggs splashes trailer need that we decided to go. What would the hunt for Red Brock Tober? That is this crate. I think so to honor our Guy Brock purdy because we're looking for a big month from Iowa state only speak for myself here. I also considered your area and say the hunt for Red Gawk Tober Jacobi Yoccoz home dog of the week but I think I think the the hunt for Red Brock Tober is just we're searching for a full month to spiciness right from Iowa state and beyond. I think that's right then okay. That's all so thank you to whoever wrote that in it is our version of the hunt hunt for Red October as we set sail here on the twos cruise before we do though Dan this is the breaking new sound that we play on the shot on a Tuesday okay so let's explain why we're playing Miss New Budi. We're playing this new booty because we have some breaking news. In the form of California S B two six S. B. Six refers to a bill that was signed into law by California Governor Gavin newsom awesome it is not set to take effect until the year two thousand twenty three but Dan what it relates to is players being able to benefit off their likeness in the state of California as you might expect the NC Double A. is none too pleased by this development there are other states such as New York South Carolina Illinois that are draft their own version of this needless to say it has a lot of potential to upend the NC Double A. as we know it. What do you think man? This is a big deal. It potentially is so the specifics of the bill are basically that a school cannot punish a student athlete for pursuing doing an income based on his or her image or likeness outside of the school so a sponsor or some sort of financial opportunity as it relates to what they do athletically letting so if somebody wanted to do the example I've seen a lot as you know sign autographs or do a commercial for a car dealership that they could not be punished for pursuing outside outside interests and they are required. I believe I looked over the literature as they say they have legal representation so every to keep everything above board and obviously asleep pay taxes and you know funnel everything correctly now the NCW doesn't like this because they believe this runs counter to their mission of this not being about money. This is these are student athletes and obviously schools like Duke in Vanderbilt dominate the college football landscape because everybody wants to be the best possible student right so I understand it from their perspective and I think there is good faith arguments from fans that I think are I think misleading leading or misconstruing or just living in a bit of a fantasy world about this changing the competitive balance of the sport. If California law goes into goes into action in two thousand twenty three and we've seen states like Florida and South Carolina and New York others that are I think in the middle of drafting similar type bills to allow allow student athletes to to pursue outside income. There's there's the idea that oh well the schools with all of the money you're GonNa have boosters posters paying a thousand dollars ten thousand dollars for autographs. You know it's going to send everybody to the richest schools. It's you know it's how does the school like I I don't know Arizona State or Minnesota or Mississippi State or rutgers or Virginia Tech How do they compete with the Alabama's and Clemson's and Texas in USC's of the world when there's a lot more money involved in the fan bases with those schools. How do you feel about that and I still say good faith argument that this is going to further separate the haves from the have nots in the sport? If that is how things is play out yeah I mean this is long been the asteroid headed towards the system clear. This is not schools paying. This isn't that school setting up budgets to pay athletes no merely now not punishing athletes for saying yeah all except eight hundred dollars whereas fellow offensive Lineman to do commercial for sub sandwiches right and and exactly so if it were the individual schools setting aside budget that would really young end of balance. This is a different version of that and ever since we had lawsuits that came about as a result of the old. NC double a video game series this has been the media or headed towards the system because because there's just too much money in the game nowadays I see this as first and foremost incredibly difficult to govern I would expect the NC Double A.'s GonNa fight it tooth and nail will eventually it's going to happen. I have no idea how you govern this the NC Double A. Setup they have a whole big lobbying group now right that they set up a couple years ago specifically specifically to combat stuff like this. I have no idea how you govern it and I understand. They're trepidation for sure. I don't think though that this is the end of college football as we know it and I see this being floated around out there. It's the inevitable next step of the game. We always have the step changes over time. Whether it's the rules of the postseason structure each step of the way something was going to be the death blow the game's going to adapt the game still going to be there. I think it's less a matter of what do I you think of this and more a matter of do I think it's going to happen and the answer is yes. It's going to happen in due time. This will only come to fruition in more and more states what I find most comical of all is the threat. Did you happen to see the threat from the NC Double A. I read yeah I read the the response yeah they won't be allowed to compete potentially in the National Championships Dan who to that the response to this is the ultimate Dan Dan Rubenstein Shrug because you've never cared about national championship now much to a lesser degree than I have in and my team has been there more often. This is true yeah so I I just envisioned California. Schools Athletes Interested in California schools looking at that threat and thinking first off. Maybe we can get paid and secondly if more states come aboard. They're just going to start their own version of the national championship anyway like it doesn't it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things so I have a bunch of thoughts around tissue. I don't know if any of them are well organized. Just think that eventually it's bound to happen and I kinda just want the NC double a video game back on a very selfish elfish level so anything that gets US closer to that navy gives the players a little bit more leverage and they currently have. I'm all for yeah so a couple of things here because of the examples that that are being used just I my our thoughts whatever about it is like well so Texas is going to start paying. You know a top top quarterback seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a car commercial like is that good economic snow. Is that Gra a a great pattern that like here's the going rate. That's so so much money and I understand that if there's a once in a once in a lifetime type generational talent so somebody can't miss like I think the most recent where you're just like there's no way that this players unsuccessful is probably Debbie cloudy. We're just like he's so physically exerting his will that he he looks like he's twenty-seven as a seventeen neuro- Martin. I'm sure I'm missing people since then but let me Trevor Lawrence seemed for sure can't miss but to set that market is so fiscally irresponsible symbol that I don't think that is an actual concern especially because Texas Alabama clemson these guys are pulling in twenty blue chip twenty-five blue chip players a year Karelia states that it's unconscionable how much that will cost over time so I think the prices are not as wild as you think they'll be too. I think there's something to be said about a big efficient a small pond it might be more valuable to go to a not elite elite school if you're looking solely for money if you're looking solely for short term gain obviously the long term gain in college football's to go somewhere that's going to maximize your opportunity to be drafted high in the NFL and succeed and develop in the NFL right sure. It doesn't seem I'm like Oh my God Washington state. They're so desperate. They're going to offer a five star quarterback eight hundred grand well or an five-star safety or something like that like well. You're you're still in Washington state and you're still kind of off the beaten path and you're still not going to be seen by the most people to garner buzz around your name and so it's more of a short term thing but you're also big fish in a small pond so if you're chasing that short term cash maybe it's smarter to go somewhere smaller buell. Maybe you'll stand out more as a as a marketable edible person. There's a whole economic side to this that you and I are probably ill-equipped to explain. We definitely are however I don't. I think it's quite as horrible for the sport of college football as some make it out to be right and I don't think it's as much of a slam dunk as proponents would a claim for it to be. I don't think it's going to change things like I don't think if okay I mean the skeptic Dan the skeptic among us would say guys are already. You're getting paid under the table as is if somebody is going to be offered fifty grand to go to Texas A. and M. or Ohio State or Michigan Probably Not Michigan but fifty grand go somewhere and they say that's enough to convince me for the next three to five years okay then they're willing to go to that place I I imagine imagine that there is a little bit more than just money for a lot of these blue chip guys and why they go to a school and that they know that they can play in front of the maximum number of people there on national TV super often and there's sometimes. I don't think we're giving teenagers enough credit as well as saying you know. This is a better fit for me. I just want to go to USC. I think I just I I WANNA go to Oklahoma state. That's just it feels right. I feel happy and I think we're painting teenagers in a way that's just what Monday just hop on and I think that's stupid. I think people are trying to go to extremes because this upsets their worldview and I understand that applies to everything in life but I I think people are generally scared of change and having that offer is an opportunity for change that really doesn't have real world world victims. The Earth is burning. It doesn't have real world victims people just love for whatever reason clutching thing they're Pearl. Well look and it's it's a it's a short term thing that I think people will get over pretty quickly. We went to a four team playoff and that was going to be the death knell for college football and and a year into it people were crying out for eight some for sixteen the game will adapt the game will be here me for zero to be there on the zero yeah whatever ever everyone's looking for the next step change in college football and that stuff's all been on the field. This'll be a pretty monumental shift off the field. I like that doesn't pertain to actual schools having to put aside. Money doesn't seem like they're title nine implications needless to say there's going to be much more to come on this front. Maybe the video game will be among among it. What happens tie this rarely dipping into your world before we go onto our our twos crews segments what happens when a relatively if not very popular our website completely over overhauls its design? people lose their minds. My miss the old Blah aretha it's the old it's the old facebook thing. Every time facebook changes their design. The world loses its collective mind big fail from Fleet Sheriff Forty. ESPN DOT com and then three days later like is what is okay. That's what I think. That's what I think we're dealing with here and and I think it's GonNa be okay and also guess what tie the best players already Goto the biggest richest schools. That's already a thing look it. Brock purdy is getting behind like a Toyota tercel wherein absolutely we're nowhere in. I mean Ian Book owns the rights. I think at at this point to the Toyota Tercel we understand that this is a charged issue and people have different viewpoints on it. We want to hear him solid verbal at G. L. L. DOT com or you can find us on twitter on facebook on instagram. Go to the sub read it. Let us know your thoughts. Not everyone may agree but this is definitely going to be a point of conversation moving forward Ford right okay with that being said then. Should we move onto the hunt. We should move onto the hunt. Here's the deal damn we've now. Athena show the hunt for Red Brock Tober the real movie the hunt for Red October was about Sean Connery who played a Russian Vice Admiral was trying to defect in the the whole movie not to give spoilers away from an old movie but the whole movie was about the United States and Alec Baldwin Jack Ryan Trying to figure out this guy's actually trying to defect back to not blow stuff up that was an overly simplistic description of the movie but that's really what it amounts to did. I ever tell you that I tried to go sean connery for Halloween. One year sure how to work out. It didn't work out very well. I glued glued cotton balls to my face and I was convinced that I could do a good sean connery impression. You've heard my impressions in a very good. Can I hear you doing Sean Connery saying the word the words Tommy Stevens Palmy Stevens. Oh my God tie that might have been a worse moment than your pre-prepared John Mayer Pun onslaught. I told you it was bad dommage stevenage and it only got worse few drinks. I hate to tell you yes I games called defection reflection based on the very plot of the hunt for Red October Slash Brock Tober explain what we're doing with this one we are looking at some transfers and gauging how their defections to new schools have gone. We've got five quarterbacks here that we're going to go through and we're going to rank them. Okay rank with them all right so the first one here is Jacob Ason Jacobsen transferred over from Georgia to guess two years ago now but Georgia's now four and one he's got a high quarterback ranking. He's got ten touchdowns only two interceptions eight point six yards per attempt all that stuff is is his is good the problem is what he's done against cal and USC where that yards per attempt has gone drastically down and he has not thrown a touchdown versus one interception exception against those two specific schools in the PAC twelve now you re watch what he did in the Byu game and I think you're right to point out that the armed talents there when he's got a clean pocket he can make any throw maybe more so than any quarterback in college football right now. He's legitimately that talented right you also compared him to the Purple Cutler. I was hoping maybe we could circle back on that comparison yeah yeah just the confidence rightfully so most of the time to to squeeze passes into tight windows and to go deep and to even if it's simple screens to get the ball out to the sideline or something quite quickly to get the place started before the the defense can close in there. There's just a certain amount of arm strength to Jacobson that makes his ceiling and his upside pretty tantalizing at the same time knee and he hasn't thrown deep successfully at ton the receivers for Washington. I don't think are still where they were when John Ross was just torching. Everybody in the PAC twelve alvin tight ends or solid titans are good. The line is good before ever reason a connection between Jacobson in his first year starting remember he red shirted last year for for the huskies and early on against the better and more talented defenses that he's faced. It's a lot shorter stuff that ends pretty quickly and so there's still the Mita Washington schedule laughed obviously Apple Cup and Oregon and Stanford coming up not that Stanford is looking particularly great but he has an an opportunity to increase because if you look at his numbers as to where Jake Browning finished his first second year in the Washington program. It's certainly it's a watch shorter. It's a lot at times less efficient. I think he's doing fine. Yes I think he's doing fine so we'll go to the next on the list compare him to Jacobson and the next guy in the list. Tommy Stevens from Mississippi State. I am not going to give you the stat breakdown here for Tommy Stevens. He's been nicked up. All all season took. A big hit. I drive against Auburn had to leave. It seems like Garrett. Schrader is the future there at Mississippi State and and if I were Joe Moorhead I think it'd be wise start moving in that direction. Get him more valuable experience trying to go back to this. Tommy Stevens thing I would. I would think we'd have to put Jacob easson higher on that totem pole then Tommy Stevens at this point right that sort of a no brainer yeah. It's becoming clear that Tommy Stevens maybe he was a full year long bridge to Garrett trader obviously Stevens beat out both schrader and Kitano Thompson for the starting job. Maybe it was seen as a will start Stevens for six games and reevaluate evaluator four games and reevaluate and see where traders at practice or you know key Don Thompson coming back you know the he left and then came back from the transfer portal but as it stands right now because of those injuries. It's you know it's a bridge over Stevens county a bridge over Stevens Bridge over troubled waters something like that. There are moments that Tommy Stevens has been troubled water. Yeah speaking of troubled waters Dan Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about Hunter Johnson Okay Hundred Johnson one touchdown four interceptions this year he has played in all four games for North Western has just just three hundred sixty seven passing yards. You don't have to be a mathematician to understand that that's less than one hundred yards per game northwestern right now all going through the teeth of its schedule and it would not surprise me if we get to a moment in November all throughout the last month the season against some of the lesser competition where Hunter Johnson works a little better that could be a good foundation for next season but at least in the early going here through the first couple of weeks he's been really bad and has not looked the part of a five star all world everything recruit who once signed with Clemson Yeah and they've some injuries on offense early on but at this point if we in the off season were saying something like okay in in terms of pure talent hundred Johnson gives northwestern something they really haven't had they've developed quarterbacks that have been interesting even made it to the NFL of developed in that system but in terms of just changing the game they might not have had a guy like hundred Johnson exactly yeah I now disagree and it it's it's not a knock on one hundred Johnson. I think he's put in the time put in the effort. I just think these not as talented as everybody hoped as recruting ranking had people believe and that's okay I think he's still the opportunity attorney potentially to develop into something I hope for entertainment sake he does but I mean even watching the Wisconsin game and it was what Danner Laskey was analyst Samat Game Yup and he was like doing his hardest he was doing the most he could to look at what was happening that came as like okay northwestern's lining up and trips here her and Hunter Johnson is looking at de formation and how they're showing their coverage to make a decision on what to do here in terms of this crossing and I was watching I don't I don't think hundred Johnson tell him that. I don't have a lot of faith that what Dan Orlovsky thinks Hunter Johnson is doing pre snap is actually happening that what kind of to me sums up the hundred Johnson experience thus far where as we talked about our next guy in somewhere between back villain starter town and one hundred Johnston is the mayor of backup Ville okay so right now if a ranking three eastern one Stevens to Johnson three yeah and and had a big place the mayor of backup like he was a Clemson all right. Let's go to Kelly Bryant next okay. Kelly Bryant transferred over another guy from Clemson been to Missouri pretty good so far maybe not as as talented in a raw talent way of looking at it as Jacobson but yeah I think more of a known quantity definitely more of a threat with his legs based on the names that we've got here now is only competition is Jacob Easson and it's a question of do we put him in front of the season or a little bit behind him I probably would have the they're pretty similar their various in terms of what they've accomplished what their weaknesses are. What let like Kelly Bryant is fine? I don't think goes downfield all that often like he's he. They don't really take a ton of chances. This is in that offense and they don't really need to at times. Defense has been pretty good. They run the ball pretty well since week one anyway I don't know Kelly Bryant to me is just sort of Ozark in book doc and he's he's going to be fine but I just it's pretty low ceiling to me. Still I think I put Bryant just that tick below Jacobson and it's because Easson I think has more raw talent and we'll have room to grow in that system whereas this is one and done for Bryant right now Kelly Bryant's numbers kind of mirror like Anthony Brown at Boston College. We're just like okay yeah. He's definitely more of a known quantity. It all fits in. It's it's Ryan Willis AC- dusty still seems like a mid tier. ACC quarterback so we agree we'll put Kelly Bryant thereafter beason yeah and the last name on this list is Austin Kendall Wright Austin candle transfers over from Oklahoma to West Virginia. He has been solidly average which thus far not aired out a whole lot only about six yards per attempt now might be two kinds. I know the month of October Brock Tober. Excuse me thank you thank you should give us a better sense for how he does against better competition but I think solidly average is about as kind as it can be. He's definitely below Kelly Bryant. He is squarely in the middle here. If I'm ranking I go eastern one Bryant to Austin Kendall three followed by Tommy Stevens at Hunter Johnson okay. I May Have Austin Kendall lower over than hunter. I just lower than Hunter Johnson. Yeah no come on. I understand new coach with West Virginia Mine Fine. I don't have the numbers in front. We need a man overboard sound for when you start getting six hundred hundred Johnson is is having a lower season season than Austin Kendall but still there's nobody on this list that if I were rooting for this team I'd be pumped weekend and week out to see. What's this Guy GonNa do now? That's rough. This is rough list. You've put together. That's a tough ranking. I got eastern one Bryant to ongoing Kendall three Kendall over Stevens Stevens Foresee Mrs played I now four and Johnson five yeah yeah. Maybe Stevens is doing the you know he'll he'll try to get a g thing out of it because of his connection with warhead something like that going pro and something other than Sports Okay Yeah Daniel. What is our final game today final game today is me N- or Baleen? Is that a whale that I hear at some sort of thing it might be a blue L. It's a large whale. It's the song of large-scale and Meaner Baleen is quite quite simple. We have in front of US five undefeated teams and we're GONNA determine if there is bite to this specific team say like a killer whale a sperm whale a sharp tooth teeth twelve you said sperm I mean we're a couple of semen here tie the turn out in the big the big way that's right or meaner bailing bailing of chorus is the filtration system bailing well so well. It doesn't chew rather they filter smaller Krill. Did you know that before or did you have to look that up like if I were at Bar Trivia and they said what type of whale what is the filtration hauled yeah I would. I would definitely know wow okay. I did a pretty impressive ORCA book report in the Fifth Grade. Okay so I'm I'm pretty whale proficient at this point and I'm doing this show tie we watch we watch the whale wars very early early on in the history of the show we did. We did comment on well wars so it's whether this undefeated team has the bite that undefeated record would imply or if they're just filtering smaller opponents through the system and not really having the teeth to to be an excellent team for the entire season okay. Where do you WANNA go first? Let's start with my favorite alternate uniform team of the season thus far the SMU fight mustangs okay five zero including wins over non insignificant teams right Tcu the Skillet US F. is pretty pretty that's Crowley that is definitely really but that's a big win for win that skeleton to be five now for SMU in the American in a changing in year in the American with Houston with a new coach with temple with a new coach though I think pretty good thus far. UCF losing two pit not looking like the quite the juggernaut that they they had these past couple of years so SMU on the come up as the conference changes meaner Baleen for you with Smu I the am a little higher on Smu than I expected to be okay you you listed them here. I went in I drove and I looked at some of the in some of the more advanced metrics that quite honestly gave me a bum steer when trying to pick games this past week against the point spread but I saw a couple of projection systems is that right now have SMU ahead of teams like Florida state ahead of teams like Boise state ahead of announce like North Carolina Towel some decent teams on their especially in Smu team that you know to your point is kind of flying under the radar right now how five zero they beat Tcu on the road which is a nice win beat USF on the road and we've got questions about USF strong and it's you know they might not be all that good but still on the road there teams here before them that will certainly pose a challenge and I think prove out whether or not they're legit. They're on the road at Houston on the road at Memphis those are going to be tough games get up temple at home on back to back to back weeks so that will define for us what we've got here with SMU but at least as it stands right now I'm I'm pretty high on them. Out on the road by the way against Arkansas state nor Texas at home but not insignificant opponents Arkansas State's State's been involved number of shoot-outs they can move the ball. SMU The big thing that I looked at in figuring things out and I watched some clips is defensively their first of all a a ton of upperclassmen on this defense. They're creating a ton of havoc. They're attacking teams. The backfield really really well and hang score and Steph was going forty five a game the I am in. I think this team has teeth. I am in on the stanks tie. I'm ready double. Digit wins hangs up sure yeah I think that's fair. I think that's I should be noted. Cal is now the Lincoln Riley of taking coaches and turning them into what looks like really really good G. Five coach with what Jeff Tedford has done at Fresno and Sonny dykes down at Smu Fair G. Five coaching finishing school. Okay Okay Yeah. That's all so yes. I think we agree agree. Why is Clemson on this list because within the context of Clemson so this is not to say a is clemson excellent or not but after this past week against North Carolina showing some of the struggles that they did are you concerned that Clemson is merely really really really good lawrence has not had I think the excellent start people imagine he would defensively? They've been really strong. They've made some. Let's say offensive play calling blunders. I would say situationally at times. They haven't been able to step on throats like you would expect a team with the expectations of Clemson should be able to do so. Do you think Clemson has national championship favorite teeth right now well well. It doesn't look that way however however I don't WanNa forget too soon what we saw last year because I feel like through five weeks of the season last year we are in a very similar spot where they had beaten am on the road only by two points they had beaten Syracuse at home by a a four points. It was like twenty seven twenty three something like that and then we're pretty respectable by the end of the year though sure and then second half of the year Dan they destroyed Freud everyone in their path now yeah there were some C- changes afoot for the Clemson Tigers Remembered Trevor Lawrence took over not too soon after after the season began Kim a little bit to kind of find his sea legs what sea legs yeah okay now keep it going approved. It took them a little bit to get going so I do understand believe me. I feel it. I'm watching these games. I could not believe what almost happened against North with Carolina but if last season was any kind of guide for what could be in front of us here I think we gotta wait a couple of weeks so I still think this. This is very much a team with teeth relative to expectations. I'm not saying we'll they win the rest of their ACC game now I understand I understand what you're saying. Relative expectations I still I think they have teeth and still think they're very much national championship worthy. I the thing I worry about with Clemson right now is they had so many of those when things get tough this player performs like there there was so much dependability whether it was hunter Renfro or Mitch higher that entire Higher Defensive Line of the guys they lost the secondary. There was so much of like this guy has been here before they're now. What is it twenty nineteen so they've been in these games since two thousand fifteen this will be the Fifth Year of deep playoff twenty fourteen what that was floor state winning? ACC Right for the playoff very I playoffs so since then all clemson playing long seasons recruiting really well you know the quarterback changes have been pretty seamless at a certain point if unless Daboh is Nick Sabin there's going to be a hiccup here. A gas pretended to type here right. That's all I ask is with all that dependability that they've had these past three years with those guys now gone. Is there a something that gets a little bit worse than the North Carolina weekend. I don't think so okay. I don't think so no okay are they still are they above Alabama to you know really above Ohio State T. Right now right now right now no right now not above any of them. Let's that's behind three teams means that they don't have national championship teeth as it stands right now. Okay well if you back into that corner then sure they're definitely still good enough. They definitely sucks next to him. Okay McCain moving on. You've got Baylor next. I do have Baylor the bears. The bears are for no the all of their list all their power five road games thus far okay hearing here we go crack remember okay. There was beat Iowa state in McLean Stadium this past week twenty three twenty one nice Nice Win is win for their John Maher Dick Zimmer now they've got a road tilt against K. state before Texas tech comes town and before they head on over to stillwater to square off against Oklahoma state they still also have roads wrote spot against TCU which isn't quite what I thought it would be preseason but still schedule that showed still be a problem for that Baylor offense also a home tilt against Oklahoma and then a week later on my birthday a home tilt against the Texas longhorns so a lot of ammo still on the schedule. I think Baylor has teeth. I like Baylor Eliah but I also don't know to your point whether or not we've seen a true test of how good this team actually is like the I was state. Win Was a nice win but I was states in a weird spot to K. state. This week probably really doesn't pose the kind of threat that's gonNA prove out whether or not Baylor's a good offensive team or not like I just. I don't think we're going to see it here. We're GONNA find out against inst- Oklahoma state on the road or against Oklahoma or Texas at home like we may not have an answer here until a little bit later on in the season right now though right now. I'm I'm pretty happy with what I'm seeing. I like the fight I like the players on that squad and I'm inclined to put them third the fourth in the big twelve these are the teams they need to beat to go eight and four which I would qualify Baylor's having teeth after going six and six last year fair fair fair okay they would need to beat Texas Tech Without Alan Bowman most likely on October Twelfth Kansas State Yup look not great this past weekend but it's in Manhattan Hatton Kansas on the road right and West Virginia at home view still very doable. The big thing to me is says even though they haven't played anybody even though we're we'd I joke about not playing a power five team on the road yet which they will this coming weekend right. The defense fence has looked like what an improved defense which is one of our big questions about this team should look like against some lesser teams Rice's the best team in the country country proved me wrong debate me to hold Iowa state down for three quarters like they did. I know they almost gave it away in the fourth quarter. I'm still giving them partial credit for that. UTSA again is awful awful awful Stephen F. Austin whatever but I am giving them credit for not having to win any of those games thirty seven to twenty eight Yeah Org Org fifty two to forty one the fact is I don't love a lot of these big twelve offenses that they're going to face so even being okay defensively seems like a big improvement so I'm going to say yeah. There's some teeth coming in. I agree. We Agree A. K. Iowa Yeah undefeated big win over Iowa state close tight pulled it out not much of a schedule beyond that and they have a big one this weekend which will preview on our preview show but from what you've seen does Iowa have. Is there something to this undefeated start where you're saying yeah. There's you know the Nate Stanley this defensive line even with all the injuries that they've had early on. There's something really impressive about this Iowa team. That's different this year well. They've run the ball a little bit better. Nate Stanley has been very efficient still has yet the throne interception. He's a veteran hand at quarterback. Iowa Iowa usually plays good enough defense. Their offense isn't always the most exciting product but they're just very steady and I was trying to think of Iowa in context like who wins if I were plays Texas on a neutral field right now okay in the Greg Davis spectacular killer. Who would you pick neutral field Iowa against Texas? I think I would pick Texas well they both have they both have some key injuries. He's I think Texas more much more weighted on defense on a neutral field I generally I think I'll the combination of talent what level and quarterback so I'm GonNa go. Texas is very close. It is it is exceedingly close and it just it feels like it's a different conversation when you're comparing Texas to a team versus comparing Iowa to a team because Texas flashier and Iowa isn't but they're pretty close. It'd be tired baby. Yeah I would just wins. I'm feeling pretty good about Iowa this year and I'm feeling pretty good about their chances against Michigan this coming week what is a record for a TV Iowa toothsome Iowa a toothsome myla yeah. What is there so last year they go what during the regular season they go eight and four Yup so I would say an Iowa with additional teeth rows of not like a great white tie don't they rows of Teeth Yup ten wins ten into Iowa means that they are going to be one of these teams they will either beat Michigan Penn State or Wisconsin most likely to finish ten? I think they absolutely can be one of those teams. Okay Have Michigan Wisconsin on the road. Penn state at home in Penn state traditionally has had a lot of trouble lottery a lot of trouble but if I'm betting right now that I will win one of those games I feel pretty good okay so one and two Lila against that that triumvirate now it doesn't mean that someone else will jump up and get him brask. Get itself together. Nebraska could have lost that Ohio state game seventy eight two three. Maybe Nebraska get together. Maybe Minnesota remains plucky Minnesota. Soda Fans Hate that condescension so I've learnt recently calling ten or more gonNA try I think it's right. I think I'm going to say yes to teeth. I hope that they get healthy. I don't have the specifics civics of all of their injuries. I know that they're beat up but with that quarterback with the way that they should be looking after opposing quarterbacks. I'm going to say yes we. We saw a pretty low Wisconsin offense this past weekend. I think the northwestern game was going to be it's here. It's in Chicago in Evanston but yeah I have a two Samayoa Samayoa Fisher to sunny a lot of a lot of TV nece toothsome nece thank you going on. I'm making up words here. Let's go final one is. I don't even know why you put this on the list. You know the answer to this wake forest the hello. This is a wake forest show Dan. It is my saint by the way do I have yes to it to mean for all of these so far I think I think we both do okay. The closest to right now to me are Baylor and Iowa those that's. That's the the gummy a tooth Combo. That's right there. Wake forest obviously yes so. Let's play the senior too optimistic. Let's play the same game that we just played with the Iowa with wake forest so if I gave you wake forest or bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-ba boom what's say Nebraska who you pick neutral neutral probably wake how interesting I have not seen wake forest completely shelled by somebody at which is a product of schedule more than anything but I have the data on Nebraska Nebraska's favored in that game by about a touchdown according to can I gotcha. I'm with it. I think there's some meanness miss. I think there's I'm GONNA say. Actually I'm going to be surprising and say no on wake. I just think it's too thin margin right now for wake forest to have a significant teeth. I think they will always have a ceiling even down. ACC as scrap pretty good well. That's the thing right. The thing is is it probably a talk to your kids about wake situation. Where Jamie Newman's great? He's great. They could finish tend to go to a bowl game and get destroyed. Here's the remaining schedule Louisville Florida state. NC State averaging attack at Clemson Duke at Syracuse. Wait could win a bunch of those football games Tau Tau stands to reason they could they could win a bunch of those football games but I think just because the ACC is so much in flux and definitely not at its full capacity this this year that the final record for wake forest which could be a revelation for wake forest football. I'm not saying this wouldn't be significant for them but relative to other teams college football it could be a bit of a Mirage my final verdicts. SMU Mean Clemson Baleen Lean. How about that Baylor Mean Iowa bailing wake bailing thing to yes three now? You also thank you also. I did some research China. Don't want to let this research go wasted for our deflection reflection yeah. I'm just GONNA need final final rulings because we ordered them but I did further actual terminology research also okay if a submarine is pointed upwards if it's going in an upward angle like vertically up well. It's going towards the surface okay. It's up bubble bobble in the incline. I know meter ooh we could use that yeah. There's a bubble that Autho blobel up bubble or down bubble so okay is Washington and up bubbled program Graham. Are they going towards. Are they going upward in the right way because of the Jacobson transfer I say yes yeah. I think so Tom Stevens. I'm going to say down down bubbles contributions Sion's because not his fault down bubble Kelly Bryant. I'M GONNA say up bubble. I think so we've seen quarterback is bad in Columbia. It gets real bad hundred down bubble or you can say new. I think it's new right now. I just made up that the new bubble YEP new double for for hundred John's wait and see wait and see down by one of John's. An Austin Kendall to me is new church. I'M GONNA SAY UP BUBBLE UP IT BUBBLE FOR AUSTIN KENDALL. Yeah I thought I was being kind with new CH- looping up bubble but then up up we should watch more West Virginia Shania or not but yeah the bubble. I was very proud of that. That little will not like that's all well. Thank you one in all a hoy. Thank you apply for joining us here on. This cruise. Yeah covered some ground here again. Don't forget to subscribe to the show. Don't forget the find us on twitter facebook. Instagram instagram also separate sovereign dot ready dot com where you can participate in the conversation long after we get back to shore. We'll be back on Thursday and talk through all of the week six action a bunch of fun games to discuss. That's all I got for now Dan and said I'm fresh shout now that I got my bubble slipped in. We've got mean we've got bailing. We've got the hunt for Red Brock Tober. We had Paul Wall involved. 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Mike Florio + NFL Week 6 Recap

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Mike Florio + NFL Week 6 Recap

"On today's part of my take, we have our good friend, Mike Florio catch up on everything that happened NFL week, six college football mania. We also have fastest two minutes. We have just stopped talking Jon Gruden football guy the week, who's back a packed show, you know, every Mondays packed it is extra packed for this beautiful Monday before we get to all of that, though, the cash app, you already know the cash Abbas number one finance app on the app store which you might not know is that you can also put cash app in your wallet with the cash card. It's the only debit card that offers instant rewards and comes packed with premium features. Not even a credit card can offer like boosts listen if you're in college and don't take advantage of boost. What are you doing? 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The Steelers have selected their messiah in his name is James John Connor, and he alone will take down skyline chili net. The game went back and forth. Put alternately was the Steelers late, Dr that sealed the deal. In the words of my close personal friend, pink TJ want. Don't you ever ever feel like the and Bontes per fict- Steelers twenty eight Bengals twenty one. Soem spread across the part. We go where the Seahawks under. Here's met for a battle of Britain. I saw Mark Davis with PF changs menu and his hand. His hair was perfect. Gruden's London. Oh, gruden's dump them. Derek card has mini Cooper got lost driving on the wrong side of the road, no fence to Jim. The Seahawks pillage the writers twenty seven to thirty two Minnesota, where the nicest guy in the league, Larry FitzGerald makes his homecoming people. Forget he's from Minnesota. There t.j ask kosh, Bush, Josh Rosen is stuck trying to find his baby Klux jeans, but the cardinals are still shitty. Overall after a bumpy start to the season, the Vikings are starting to Adam feeling good, feeling great, feeling great, feeling good about you Vikings twenty seven cordo seventeen. Rivers was on fire in Cleveland out Sunday afternoon. And Nova Gordon Ramsay reminded everyone that the fucking idiot sandwich picking the house with good. This pro PINA peppers tastes like Krupp. I would say this to my dog pound you call yourself a Baker. You fucking shit mate in the San Diego superchargers thirty, eight proud support team. Standing on the corner of Jameson, Tampa, Florida, such bonsai to see it's a Julio my Lord and he still can't score when the hell. This guy goes sore TD on Mike Smith. Any. Matt, Ryan, Valk insulin. Your. These. Life. The Parco's dog turned us wack. Eliane took a look in the mirror and said, actually forget it. Let's just lose again with case Cato Sean mccheese playcalling looked like an angry milk hyper before the draft dot dot. That that that's Todd Gurley red for two hundred eight yards and two touchdowns a manual. Bernie Sanders is sick of the one percent completion percentage of case keenum while wondering why everyone else in the NFL can't share wins while the rich LA Rams keep getting richer rent, forty-three Broncos, twenty. Down in Houston, where the hand of God, Josh islet went out with an injury leading to Nathaniel Hawthorne Peterman and his three scarlet letters. Kelvin, Benjamin rasp l. garden variety, manic depressive, try to take on the bills locker before the game, but it was de'andre, Anthony Hopkins, secondary with some. Nights dante. Twenty bills. Thirteen rub bucks a book. He could go and the big d. with a Dallas. Cow boy bands. Offense was under fire there QB out to the world every day. Proc your PA? Yeah, every day tax street stack. All right. He's accumulate returned to form hitting the glory hole taking Jerry Jones to tout all afternoon the Jaguars for the second straight week. We're not in sync, but we still believe in trust and timber. Blake, poodles ability to bring sexy back before the by by week coverage. Forty chocolate. Something we finished with a wild and crazy shootout in Foxborough where the patriots took down the cheese. Forty, three forty, stop me. If you've heard this before Andy Reid trouble with the clock when Tyree kill score two down the stretch, let's kick it down to the field where we have Patrick Mahomes on the broadcast Patrick talk about. This is just one of those games that's just for the plan to watch. I certainly missed him throws the first over go to pay for the rest of my days clinic to trade the bowl, my hand. He was over there on the sidelines bundling up just like Clifford. Ben grunt dog fortunately treats for himself as pockets, big, twelve days back at Texas Tech, red raiders take on a whole food. All right week, six before we get into week six. Well, I, it's tax day. Yeah, it's talk. It is actually tax Hanke taxes last year, so he's stuck in. I wanna say before we start, you know, like the how we when we started the show two and a half years ago, we're like, hey, listen. If we can make ourselves laugh. We can make other people laugh the Patrick Mahomes talking thing that might just be us making each other laugh. Maybe no one else thinks it's funny, but we're gonna do it every week because I die laughing every time it's tough for me to get out. And then when I hear Patrick actually talk, I'm like, holy shit. That's PF t, you know what though, like we do this to Patrick Mahomes because we like, no, he falls me on Twitter. Yes. You've mentioned it once. Yeah, he's he's a fun guy to watch play. He's just got an interesting voice. He does. He does. All right, so let's get into it. All right, let's jump right in. So let's talk about your bears. Everyone right now is to to hear how you feel about getting beef and broccoli. Oz wiler just ramming the ball down your throat. Well, we might as well throw in the Wisconsin badgers, they're too because of the week. The theme of the weekend is chicken shit, football coward football, knocked going forward on on fourth downs, not running the ball north and south. When you have good running backs offense of lines, it's bullshit. I hate it. I'm not gonna waste my time. The bears are different than badgers, battery season's over there. Fucking dumpster fire. I'm done. I actually, you know what I did last night when I was drunk and I didn't realize it till this morning because I started getting emails from all my friends. I set up an alert. I know joke every killing the backfield. No, it's it's for November ninth and I set up alert. It's Friday. It's a Friday, November. Ninth. I guess the next day is the Wisconsin at Penn State, and I just all caps I wrote don't ever think about getting sucked back into this Wisconsin season their chicken shit cowards and don't deserve your time or money move on. Fuck them. Done. Chicken ship. Football hashtag invited all my college friends, and I started getting emails this morning. I was like, oh, whoops. Even know this. This is like when you have an axe and you tell all your friends, hey. Don't let don't tonight. Take my phone. I know she's going to be there and just if I start talking to her come over and pull me way and you know what? You're gonna have a couple of beers and you're gonna get sucked right back in and you're going to grab it. So yeah, that's. That's that we don't have yet. Now they're at my first qualm with bears, today was the uniforms obviously. So they looked like the dolphins. Is the candy ass orange that they were wearing. They just they didn't have it here. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be honest rap game. This is the cruelest thing that's that that that has ever happened in the NFL. I lo- Brock Osweiler love making Brockett ship jokes. I love watching him trip. Overs lineman. I love him being just a terrible quarterback. And then in the cruellest twist of fate, he is my daddy. They the crop Brock Osweiler has played for three different teams. He has started his first start for each team, the Texans, the Broncos in the dolphins for each I start, he's beating the Chicago Bears. Yeah, that is, do you know the odds of that for an AFC NFC crossover. His start in that uniform, any somehow plays a bears each. I start and he somehow beats them each. I start. It's fucking bullshit. I would never wanna see Brock Osweiler again, actually I take a lot of jokes and I'm gonna keep making jokes bears, just need to sign up. He's the revenue. He Leonardo de Broc Rio and he just slaughters bears for Libya. We need to sign him though. And then bring them on so that he can't do this anymore. Right. Big, listen. I put this down to pairs are destined to signed Brock Osweiler not for that reason. Not what you just said. Yeah, but because he is the perfect he's like, he's more Mike Glennon than Mike Glennon. Yes. And the fact that he's impressed you guys so many times by beating excited. If if this whole Mitch, Trubisky experiment doesn't work out. I'm just saying, where do we stand on that? No, the bears everything. I think about the orange uniforms with with Trubisky is his very, very tan biceps, yes, Lynn seamlessly into it. The bears had everything that that that, like all the weaknesses, you know, rear their ugly heads the same time, the Brock tink dunked. They couldn't get to the passer, Mitch made some bad throws and Matt Nagy turtled. So we'll see, listen, here's a spins. Here's the alternates to spin zones. One is every time the bears going, Super Bowl. They've lost in Miami. So check that off. He had to do that also good. Who's the Adam gates? Revenge game. Yes. Who's Adams gates, revenge game. I also if the bears won that game and gone foreign one and then played the patriots next week and had been like someone would have written the could this be a Super Bowl preview, which is stupid because I, the bears are not a Super Bowl team, whatever. But someone would written that article and the minute that article was written. The bears lost every game for the rest of the season because it just can't happen was, oh, good lately, a little bit lower one. Thing that we did get out of that game was Kenyan Drake has fumble like on the one yard line and then the redemption like he didn't cost team the game after all. Yes. And he man, he looked like he was going to just like commit Sukhumi the Japanese suicide thing with pylon. That's how that's how distraught he looked on the sideline. It was that that I mean, that's pretty pretty hard to fumble on the one year. There was two fumbles on the one yard ninety nineteen. This is a weird game. Miami just does that the humidity forget it's wet hot. It's very wet hot much rather be should change the name to how do people not make that the Hard Rock Cafe stadium. How's it Hard Rock Cafe stadium by the way because it rocks heart. Yeah, I guess so. But that's a weird sponsor. I do. I do like hard Brock, though. Heartbreak cafe, yeah, so yet. So that game, whatever we had a while besides that, that was a very wild game because it was like the game that everyone was excited for exciting to watch Brock. Fuck up. It was saying free money because no way can proxy bears pub of LA. We also had der. You choose what you wanna talk next, Derek Carr cried on the field in London. Nathan Peterman came into a game and said to his coaching staff, I got this through pick six. That's what that he delivered or the or Ben Rothlisberger having full ownership of the entire state of Ohio. Let's talk about the London game because, yeah, you're right, Derek, Carr cried. I think we're all very surprised that we didn't see any mascara running down cried so try. That's okay. Okay. I it cry. He's in England. It's like it's not cheating. If you're in a different what zip code area he was. If you're indifferent country, you're allowed to cry. He signed her car. It was I, I don't even know what to think of the raiders anymore because Jon Gruden it doesn't even feel like he's trying if feels like he's like, you know what? I got ten years hundred million. I can just punt on this year and we'll just figure. I mean, the Mark Cooper stuff's weird. Everything is just weird about the raiders and they put in an absolute clunker right now. John gruden's entering the phase of this job where he is. Starting to realize, hey, might be in a little bit over my head. Yeah, this isn't actually the year nineteen ninety eight. I know. I know deuce is the same size as he was back in nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, that's maybe that's what he should do. He should just make deuce Gruden. Interim coach is beat the shit out of all the players for a week. I liked that yet. Jon Gruden is data to of your new job when you put that your proficient in Microsoft excel on your resume. Yeah, and they're like, hey, we need you to like crunchies numbers real quick and I don't know how to add cells. Yeah. Do any. You're out. You're on like a. You're you're like, this is a two year project. Yeah, that you're already halfway. Yeah, it's it's not a good thing going on. I don't know. They can't really do anything. My best guess is that Oakland will just end up jettison all of its players and Gruden will just ride the next three years out as as a big rebuild. And then he'll just rebuild the team, his own image and get the Vegas pump. Yeah, they'll get the Vegas bump a little bit too. Golden Knights at it. Yeah, Vegas bump. That's you can get that checked out any number of clone. You also can make sure the by the good stuff when you get that Vegas. That's right. Talking about different pumps. You talk about a Breda. Yeah, Dick's and cocaine. So he spends on for Grundell. He was lucky that randomly the the London game wasn't at nine thirty in the morning because if that was on centers, like everyone was watching that game, people would start figuring out that he shittiest job. Good thing. He's got another week to to just kind of lay under this game by it's okay, let's it continues to interviews. Let's let's do Big Ben. Okay, so big bend. So his record in Ohio. Now. Now, this is the the Browns and the Cleveland now he's from Ohio is twenty five, four and one. And it was a classic case of the Bengals looking like they're the team to beat in the AFC north. The Steelers having a very rocky start to their season Levy on bell all this bullshit. They're like two and two, two and one come in rip their hearts out. Literally just rip all of their hearts out and be like, here you go and stuff it, you know, found his perfect even tried to kill Tonio Brown likes the more things change the more they stay and juju got into a fight with one of the Cornerbacks to like, forget the, the ravens and the Steelers. These are the two teams that required to say, don't like each other very much and it was it was violent game. It was like everything that you wanted that type of game, north football, football, football. So Big, Ben owns Ohio. I think a lot of that record is just a product of playing the Browns twice yet, but it's still impressive because they play the Bengals and the like the Bengals. No, that's no high of only once a year, but the Bengals. Yeah, they're essentially you're like, we're going to try to. Beat them up and it just hasn't worked and they need to find a new strategy, maybe Marvin Lewis? Yeah, maybe I don't know different just different coach for that game. Yes, yeah. Switch out and the wildcard game and the while coach. But do you think I mean, we'll have to get our stats department on this. Do we have Belva? We have like an aunt that bubbas. Okay. Bubba. Who do you think it was? That was who was. US Department at a phone ringing? No, I think he was a calculator punch. I just wonder what Tom Brady's record is in the state of New York. Ooh, because I bet you it's more impressive than big Ben's record in the state of Ohio. I don't know about that. These west search, it Bubba. No will know because he has the state of New York. You only plays the bills and the jets the jets play in New Jersey. That's a good point. Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't. Wanna will act that was a rebel. Well, yeah, I add two. That's a good thing to play New Jersey. Okay. So I was just about to figure it. Okay. Oh. Anxious that would have been tougher. I would've loved to see the Google search. You just wanted your search, Tom Brady record, or you would've look how about this Hamburg year over year and just added them all up, Tom Brady record to get. New york. On the. Chinese calculator out there. Is that what's called? What you said was offensive is actually oriental, takes Marlins vanity. But Marlins fan, we'll get to baseball later, but Marlins men. He owns, he owns Tober. His his mistrust over. All right. We need to get to the other story. Nathan Peterman. Nathan Peterman comes in, Josh Allen hurts himself. The bills are like the scrappy team that is not very good. And the Texans are the scrappy team that should be good. That's kinda sucks. Who sows a weird dynamic going on with that game. Nathan Peterman comes in, throws a touchdown pass. It's thirteen thirteen. He looks to his coaches. He says, I got this and then throws it ho Rendez pick six. And then the next position throws another interception. Yeah, he's he's the match all of our generations. Great. I do. I mean, every game is just so much more exciting when Nathan Peterman gets involved because you know what's going to happen. It's just a matter of time and putting him in there well, him or Josh Allen behind that offense a line against that Texans. Like frontier, JJ what's back? Yeah, that's like just tossing raw meat into a cave, full pit bulls and no, neither one of those who quarterback is going to succeed at all, and I'm not surprised what happened Peterman, but it's. Still like, I don't know. I, I have a thing for Peterman. I like I think that they should give Josh Allen a year to learn, throws decent spiral because here's the thing we talk about this, something he does decent intercept you. It's very, very count, Dixon their hands, and you learn more from an interception from a mistake. True. Then you do from a success fact. So eventually Nathan Peterman is going to be a genius. Yeah, pretty much we're just waiting for is waiting for that moment. Yeah, ten thousand. If you give him ten thousand hours of throwing ten interceptions then then he'll be good. Yes, he'll finally, it was incredible though. He played like seven minutes of football and he managed to intercept. That's what pays. We also had everyone needs to maybe take a step back from the Browns hype or at in the Browns, take step back from Brown type or the chargers charge real because they've won three in a row now. And if you remember they were my best team to not make the playoffs. Last last show they're coming this year. That's a big thing to come off. You can pull it off. He could build off. They have David really good threesome of coaches out there. Yeah, they got. They got Lynn who had actually, I don't know if Lindsay. Good. Yeah. That sounds go. He did say the standard is a standard, so that's something yeah. And then they've got wizened hunt as offense coordinator, Gus Bradley as their defense. So like to coordinators that l. that reached the Peter principle elevate head coach is like, no, you guys are better at what you were really good with your shaved head and you go t making Carroll directions on the sideline. Gus not talking to peop- not talking to any of the players. Yes, just just coached them. Yes. So I think hand up for me, I was I I need to pump the brakes on the Browns. I believe I said that they would win by ten. Okay. Well, here we go. So you pump the brake breaks Brown. I'll give you one back. The jets might be good. Yes, three and three Todd Bowles turn that Sklar turn it around top Ted, what he does. He's getting up there three, three poor colts, the colts have the most injuries. I think any team has ever had in the history of NFL and Andrew lock basically has to go out there how many past he's forty, three passes today. He's going to break the record for most pass attempts off of the shoulder injury that we don't even know if it was a real shoulder injury. Just trying to go and do so. I don't know what he's rogue. Yeah, was just whatever happened there because we still have details. He's now going to throw five thousand times. He was trying to hold out until his dad. Oliver luck could sign them for the XFL. True couple years. True. And we also had probably the worst crime against humanity of this century fake outs, no football. So in the morning, I told you, but I told you not hear your hopes up figured out where we went wrong. Okay. Because in the morning they posted a report from the field and it was covered in snow. It was. I was like, yes, yes. And then I remembered later on that snow melts, I I, that's my problem. I forgot to. I forgot that snow melted and it was. It was the biggest case of white blue balls. Yeah, like balls. I told you, I tried to warn you. It was like we were gonna have Christmas mornings like, hey, it's been a lean year at the warehouse. So I, I don't know if I don't know if Santa's coming for that new huffy and not tell you and you're like, where's my new hoffy? It's like, no, you have to have this used bike. It's actually just micro machines. Yeah, and it does. I can't ride on. It's a power wheels that doesn't work to tell you, and then we got double blue balls on that game because swag Kelly came in a couple of plays. The first Hase keenum surprise actually, I'm not. Do you want you wanna do dung chain. I might done chain the Broncos that defense gets cashed. What you want done chain? The Broncos. Do we don't change the Texans by the way? Yeah, we did Faulk. So they. Three in a row, but that's okay. South and put to Shawn. Watson looks like he's just talked on chain, the Seahawks too. If I think the first team that I feel confident on cheating the Broncos, it's almost like we realize how dumb we are constantly. Well, it's also everything's week tweak like the Redskins beating the Panthers was a classic NFL thing like the Redskins get blown out the Panthers, win a big game, and you're like, no way will the Panthers loose the rents. I say that we done chain the colts. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, the colts are done, put it around their stood Rocco's. You are, you're, you're facing your lingering. You turn the swag on the Broncos are window shopping. Five jewelry store, looking chain slammed. Oh, all right. And let's talk about the other AFC west game, the chiefs patriots game, which was awesome. It was a big twelve game broke out forty, three forty, amazing neither team could. I mean Mahomes is kinda shaky in the first half, but he turn it on second half the chiefs defense though. If you score forty points the NFL and you lose, that's impressive. That's impressive thing to do. Their defense is so so bad. I like how their third down defense was number one in the league going into tonight because they would get huge, huge leads on other teams. And so other teams would be thrown the ball a lot in the second half. And when it was third down, it was like third down and ten. Oh, I thought third down defense was the best because the other team would just never get to third down. Right? Because they get the first down on first or second. That's true. But I think I don't know. I'll have to have our staff department looked Harvard cracks. That's. Let me know who's right about that one. Yeah. The patriots often to by the ways is borderline on fair. Now, the Josh Gordon is like seamlessly in their elements back. Yeah, they got this tight end that he reminds me a little bit of Travis. Calcio won't jinx. Isn't that crazy? He is. This is like the new type tied in Travis. Kelsey is match up nightmare. He owns like, dear, he's big, but he's fast. And now the patriots got a guy like that too. And you have to game plan four, Travis, Kelsey? Yeah, he's a Chesapeake, Mitch mismatch. What's the guy on the patriots? Here's the thing about Travis. Kelsey is he's too big to be covered by corner. Yup, our safety. Yup. But who fast fast we covered by a linebacker. Yeah. So it's like, what do you do? Travis. Kelsey? Yeah. So what's the patriots? James Devlin James zeppelin. And that guy had, there's nothing that can trigger Hank or patriots fan more than just saying, it's actually Chris Collins. Like they do that on purpose because we agree like obviously, groggy cow ski is who head and shoulders ahead of Travis. Kelsey, it's not even a competition, but it is hilarious listening to Chris Collins where sell that he's gonna do it again. Next tonight that Jewish are on Whitten was doing it too. Best tight end realize hausky is actually the greatest tight end in the history of the game. He actually is really it's, it's not. It's not even Kelsey would be talked about it in that same air if you didn't play with gronkowski. True. Yeah, true. You got fucked there. Kelsey is also just the words shithead gets thrown around a lot the days Travis Kelsey just shit had. Yeah, he's well endearing shit shit head. I like him. I like him. He's yeah, I could see how he could be shit. Yeah, he wears your ings guys wear hearings. I'm like, yeah. Okay. Could be shit out. He does pretty much and then speaking Monday night, we got the Packers and who the Packers hosted to CJ Beth Hart. That's right Packers. And the Niners would I'm really excited about is this is our first time seeing booger in his booger mobile, the snot rocket in some freezing temperatures. So he's going to be bundled up, have blankets on blankets, on blankets he's going to be called. He's going to have. Like thermoses and they're going to talk about how he's staying will. This is chicken soup. I have a little cedar he's going to have that's going to be a fire hazard. I might actually call that in. Listen Green Bay, although in Green Bay, they tailgate at gas stations. Yeah, there's isn't really fire might just be drunk? Yeah, this game. Do you see Mike McCarthy? They asked him about the game, like, what do you do? How do you plan differently for cold? Weather's like thirty agrees is in cold weather. Yeah, actually, that's kind of a good point. That's still pretty warm. And then any other games? I don't think we had any other games. Oh. The Cowboys wanna game, whatever. Shoot talk a little college football before we get our football the week. Well, preemptive, who's back? I think we're all going to say l. issues back LSU. So that was so the badgers being shit. They got the ship pumped in Arbor and then the bear's loss in embarrassing fashion to Brock Brock Tober Brock would we call them chip Leo debris to Rocco attacking bears the one silver linings. I think I'm just gonna like become a full on Cajun LSU fan? Yeah, until they lose to Obama that would suck do no. I own that game by the way. So going into this weekend, I was I was looking ahead on the schedule at that Alabama game. You don't do that. I had to Harry on football. I had to peak. And I was thinking that l. ac- would get beat by twenty thirty because Alabama's just they are wagging yes, by brought back Dixieland delight, which was awesome. But now too I is hurt possibly injured and LSU playing neck again. Yeah, which is the greatest there is nothing better. We've never been to LSU game. We're very excited for a first LSU death valley experience Hanks game, but there's something so special about LSU beating team. And then all the fans saying, suck this tiger dick bitch. That's like all time. And and and I like how also it took it took like until like two years ago for LSU administration bike. It's too. It's too vulgar. Yeah, we talked tiger dick bitch. They made this and they made the ban stop playing it and then the fans would just start singing it no matter what song was playing. They would like take whatever songs playing in turn into like, suck. It actually kinda makes very versatile, get Hank name any song. Well, that I would know you're going to say somebody like odd future's or something. It actually makes Alabama look like kind of kind of pussies because they ban Dixieland delight because they said, fuck Auburn, then they change seed Auber land. Yeah. So suck that day. Pitch, but no, they, they change it to. They did like a whole. The administrator in Misteri did a video pain, like please be nice and don't say, fuck, Auburn, say, beat Auburn, p they made a huge like they made the whole song PG and meanwhile, death valley, they're still singing. Suck that tiger dick hold her up tight, suck a dick bitch roll time. We had also Penn State loss West Virginia loss. That sucks. Coach Orson love you. Pretty heavily on them and Georgia. So is it was four out of the top eight. So we're getting that part of the season college football where it's just kind of like upheaval every single weekend, and then it will be out Bama, Ohio, State Clemson and like George. And then there was that west coast Pac twelve game that only people that went to this Pac twelve schools really paid close to and Jenner Campbell till the Oregon game. That was an awesome wasn't awesome game, and everyone is talking about. That's cute Pac twelve game. That's yeah, that was the other top ten team that lost Washington. So Oregon, Oregon is going to have one of those classic seasons where they could be in the conversation for the final four except for Stanford game where they couldn't finish. I remember that was my. And then what's going on Brassica that's the other thing who Scott frost somebody put out an article, say yes, somebody put on article saying, this is the cash implications that would come into play with the buyout. They're not gonna fire him there. I mean, he took people forget UCF was and twelve and he still hasn't law and he took them thirteen. No, but should we ask that question because Scott frost no longer at UCF they are still undefeated this year. He's a system school. Interesting. So yes, Scott frost, I don't know what you do because like obviously, year one. Okay. But even chip Kelly out and UCLA UCLA's getting some. I think they won this past weekend. They'd be they Cal Yeldham. Yes. So like you could see chip Kelly can can. He has no talent, and he's like pulling rabbits out of his hat. Scott frost can't even beat northwestern. You could make the argument pretty good. You can make your argument Scott frost though that they're close to winning a lot of games and then there. Well, that's a good argument, one or two gate. Well, I mean, chip Kelly is getting his ass kicked, yeah, season. You know the season, but they're like one or two small mistakes away their quarterback got injured or like, I don't know for whatever reason. I I'm, I'm still buying Scott. I I, I'm not gonna overreact to Owens, but worst were starting to Brassica history. Yeah, I like it and Akron that one game bring the steroid Akron game that they got the got rained out where they need that win. They needed that member that article. We re read where the guy was like, why don't they just give us the wind. We add it more than them. Yeah, it's turns out you do. It turns out you do. All right. Let's do the football the week. Okay. Yeah. What do you got? No, we're gonna talk about baseball. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna talk baseball later football guy the week. So we have this week. Remember vote at part of my take. We have this week LSU defensive end Braida l- I'm screwing up his name cocoa so he did and we also have the LSU tight end. So you'll tell us about the issue, but Brayden cocoa he did the haka before the game with his dad, and I think it was. His brother and I don't know what it is about the haka, but it is like it makes me so excited just to watch people do it, and you'll get is the ultimate pump up experience. And I had nothing to do with normally. I would be opposed to team doing a celebration dance before game before they even score any points. But the hawk is totally different. It's it's infectious. Your sounds like a rugby gun strengthen. Yeah, yeah, it's off and they ended like sticking their tongue out. Yeah, we know what we need to bring back. Stick your tongue out. Someone you need to do pre-game. We need to learn the hawk and start doing it pre podcast. Okay. Come take coming him not to come. That was, we'll actually learn how to do it for real. Don't wanna be culturally insensitive. So so that was one LSU guy that some football guy that we combining two of them, yes, onto one LSU category. The other is LSU Tidende foster Moreau says from Bruce Feldman. He said, this is a guy who took fifteen stitches in his face after a cable popped in the weight room on a latte pull down and he had oral surgery on Monday, never missed a single rep of practice, either hashtag stud. That's that's quite hashtag stuck. Don't click. I don't search that one. Well, it's probably a lot of horses out. Imagine having SABs so, but yeah, that's that's that is football guy. So you can vote for both those LSU guys together. We have the temple coach at halftime against navy. He essentially did his own. It was essentially his own Oklahoma Troja standing there just just challenging people one on one when he had no pads. This is also guy who I call them out because he was, it looks like he's wearing capris earlier in the season that just because. Too big. Yes. So this was this was a great move though. If you wanna get the, if you wanna get guys fired up, just start going one on one against the punch of twenty one year old, Jack dudes in full pads while you're just in your coaches. When are you? Some bitches can put me. I'll let you coach the team. Second half, there you go. We have Greg Williams defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. They brought up the rally possum and he said, well, shit, we used to eat that when I was a kid. So he ate opossums as child. It's pretty. It's also very, Greg Williams. And did you see the skunk air like cousins, possum and a sunk? Yeah, they're related. They don't talk, but they're related, right? They know each other around these parts. Yeah, they, they're feuding right now, but then did you see what Sean Payton said in his response to that story, Sean Payton replied to it and said, yeah, I bet he ate possums or rats. Ooh, interesting. When I saw that I was like, what? No. What if this was NBA Twitter. This would be like. League school Mucci this Twitter, every BTC drink Shirley temples cold. You had if you had one coach calling his former assistant coach out for being a rat rat. Usually the boys, here's a little. Here's a little behind was once. I mean, big playing blackjack in Detroit as so. So many unnerved great stories. And you know, we're talking with the dealer the dealer and he pulls twenty one out of his ass and calculus all those rat move, and he stopped. He stopped dealing and he just stared at big cat. And you're like, I, I did say you were a rat rat loons said, you use the word rat and he looked like he was going to kill him. So through the word rat, it is. This is bad. I do like to say that a black, that's a wrap move. It is. Yeah. And I use that exact same technically, technicality. It's a loophole. I did not call you rat the rat move. We finally have Ted wrath, the strength and conditioning coach for the LA Rams. It was twenty degrees in Denver, and he wore short sleeves on the sidelines for the entire game. Yeah, no needs to do that. So I don't know if this was a football guy move, or if this was a Calabro move where Calabro going vacation somewhere and they assume that every place else has perfect weather don't pack long sleeves. Yeah, it could have been one or the other. I'm not sure or he could have just been trying to instill confidence into his team like, hey, listen guys, it's not that bad. Yeah, it was a tarp that was on the field early and was so the snow's trick. He was very excited. Yeah. If you looked at his Twitter, it's it's very sad to watch to watch his meltdown half the by the way show Jerry Goff have birthday. Yeah, having birthday six last quarterback with undefeated team, not Eric Dickerson, Eric Dickerson. Mercury Moore's is he's got his eyes on the rim. Now pop that champagne bottle. Okay. Let's who's back and then we'll get to Mike Florio. Thank you. Start my who's back. I had neck in Dixieland delight, but since we already talked about, oh, we talk about it signed with Drake and push t beef. Tell it's back interest n. was when did I start started in summer who weighs this? The one where the guy said that Drake has secret. Yes, God Drake didn't respond to hire when they go low, we go. Hi. Yes. And decided to respond on the brawn James as the shop barber, shop show who he sub tweeting them on TV show, yes, sub showing. So he's making push t by HBO pretty much. That's fucked. That's all the clips were on social. We have this, so fucked up making push to get an internet subscription. Yeah, but he basically said it wasn't too far when he talked about kid has his baby mama fee Mitzi as kid? Yes. Got it was too far when he talks about his friend who sick that's that was the line that he drew in the sand. You said that was fucked up. You deserve what's coming to you. And so now now it's been, does that mean not interpretation? Not just so hold on. Let me follow this real quick. He said this on LeBron show if something happens to push Tiki for God forbid, yes. God forbid something happens to push t would LeBron James being accessory to murder. He would be culpable, he would law. He would be in. Yes, he would be conspiracy, wow. This is actually know what is the Brown James entire barbershop now up for Rico investigation and thanks to the internet Drake in the in the video LeBron's talking about how us talking through the like controversy during the time, like what to do what to say, Bubba, blah, people went. Back in videos from LeBron's Instagram of him, working out to push teeth album. Fake French. So fake friend to new friends who says, no new fence, Drake, Drake, wow. Putting it all together here. Damn, I got forbid. Jail kind of sucks for Drake that LeBron James is a kind of guy that would just like be friends with and root for whoever was hot at the moment. Interesting. He'll feel for Drake that would really by the way, what was that you sent us? This stay woke. I'm gonna read it. Actually, the the lebrons stay woke that he's a new next Steve Jobs. Is that right? I would say to stay woke, it's more of just to take. It's a take it is take. All right, I got it. Here's a hot take LeBron is a new Steve Jobs from films and TV shows to educational institutions ANR in via his g. which is which is him listening to music to interviewing artists that don't that is James using his magnitude to invade industries and redirect the conversation, hey, but the Lakers may. He also is doing the thing with Rondo, which was really cool UCF to snap. Coolest inventions. I've never seen that actually. Now that I'm thinking about using new Steve Jobs, he invented a new way to start a game, bypassing it underneath his legs. Toronto he thought different. Yeah, that was very good. What do you think this is great. Warmed. Who's back AG might not ever. Whose backs cagey anything not yet. Not that I've seen always doing my first is rape Caruth. So letting him out of jail, still not suspend by the NFL and my second. Oh, and there's also like serial podcast coming out about, oh, about recruits. Yes, yes, not plug another podcast, please don't do that. Spoof it. My sex, Donald. This actually play all of that podcast on this podcast at a later date. Yeah, right now, the podcasting world is wild west baby. There are no laws start sampling, it's. That's what it's called. Yeah, we'll play stays. Yeah, we'll play the best of all the other Pasha on Tuesdays and Thursdays, just Joe Roquette Joe Rogan, Dana white, just smoking Bonk's talking about the universe. All right. My second who's back in the week is treating ally manning like he's a baby. So Matt Hasselbeck said this morning that the giants should trade him to Jacksonville and like put them in a place because the giants are in such a bad position right now, you know the rebuilding and it would be the right thing to do. Cindy lie manning to a place where he has a chance to win a Super Bowl. So it's like we really feel bad for you. But this happens every couple years like happened last year when he got benched at the time, it was like, yeah, that's kind of weird time to bitch, but it happens a lot, whereas ally manning is just like they treat him like he's like a golden retriever. Yeah, and you're keeping him in your apartment and it's too small for them and you're like, we need to send them to a nice farm. We've got room to run around one of those a, yeah, one of those crazy people who keeps TV on for their dog while they leave. Well, we want them to have something to do. Yeah. The dog does not fucking watch. Dog deserves to not live in this apartment, but he'll I manage. He's more like a like an old house cat that just like coughs up hairballs and shit some soda time. But by the way, the manning thing we're going gonna get into more of it with Mike flow. How funny is it that like Ben mcadoo was the only guy man enough to stand up to you? I'm manning in all this shit like Ben Ben mcadoo be like, he's the only guy who says, you know. What I'm not going to be pushed around by the manning family, and then he got fired. I think it was still. He was so enthralled with his like eight play cards game that he didn't have time to worry about things like respect. I miss. I do miss. What's he doing? I don't know. He's probably he's definitely. Yeah. He's playing board games at very high levels. Stats department going crack, our crack staff department. All right. My who's back I actually I had chose, well, tax was one, seven. Remember do your taxes unless you can't get him wash your good. And then my second one is started falling into sort of a new year. That's fact. Okay. Yeah. The IRS. Okay, concur. My second is humans having one up well hand up on robots. If you saw the only win that that the badgers got on Saturday was Bucky badger, just pointing at the stupid fucking robot on game day and give them the heavy crossover. The robot just fell over. So I need these every now and then to have these moments where it's like, yeah, we can still beat these robots. Yeah, in basketball, definitely be it in basketball, but did you see the other robot that was when box jumps last week? No. Yes. So it's basically they've turned JJ watt into a robot, Instagram thought to Raja's now a robot? Yeah. He was like doing wind sprints and box. Trump's Somo not slow, talk to got a lot to learn, and there was no hashtag ING of rising grinds was he running was running routes against no one being like, look, this speedwork he was not, but he was listening to fort minor. Okay. Then we're fucked. Ben magnitude is living between Saint Augustine and Daytona on the east coast of Florida. I'm sure. It's been mcadoo. The mecca do. Patou. Makati point. Where's he living? He is living in a spot between Saint Augustine Daytona on the east coast of Florida. Where's this report? Zilly general area, New York Post, talk calm. I kind of liked that. He's out there. He's probably gonna fishing boat July beach. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be able times occasionally. Okay. He probably has season tickets medieval time. His hair giants will sit out the two thousand eighteen season Elkin to get back on the coaching carousel in two thousand and he will. That's how the NFL works. All right. Let's get to Mike Florio before we do that quick word Franks red hot. You need Frakes red hot in your life. Use it on everything. Franks, red hot has been adding the perfect blend of flavor and heat to your food for over ninety years. Did you know that are original Cayenne? 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I haven't taken a day off since January one, two thousand four, true story. I decided then if I'm ever gonna make my business pro football, talk dot com into what it could be. I could never take a day off and I never have knows maybe one day it will become a big we when we were at your house like a year ago, you did not work you grilled and we hung out, we watch. No, you got there. Late afternoon. I worked until you guys got their show. A shed when we got there. Yeah, I stopped me from working at work and also from working to that, I worked after you guys left the next morning when you re gifted that that Pepsi home. Let's get to some football, Mike. All right. Yeah, let's do it. I wanted to start with my favorite story. Our favorite story. What do the raiders do with Jon Gruden and a follow up is the Amari Cooper stuff for real. I mean, they're stuck with Jon Gruden out whether or not he's guaranteed one hundred million dollars over ten years, I think, is debatable, and I don't think that much of it is truly guaranteed, but they're into this guy for at least four or five years. They're not going to run him off. Then moving Las Vegas soon. I think Jon Gruden and can convince the owner of the team, Mark Davis that the cupboard is is more bear than it is fool. I think the real question is what do they do with their car next year? Because even though he got that big contract, they get on the load him at at a manageable cap tip. If they decide that Jon Gruden needs a different quarterback and stuff of the Mark Cooper who really knows, I mean, grew denied after the game today that they're shopping Markku per the didn't need an. They were shopping Khalil Mack, and then the next thing you know Khalil Mack trade it. So I don't really anything out with the team that maybe can. Look at a guy that they're gonna take months. You like Cooper and ask themselves, do we wanna pay that big money for? Do we wanna flip him for draft picks? So you really think they might they might move on from Derek Carr. Jon Gruden spike, this isn't my guy. Well, I don't know. I look the thing with with car like every week, Gruden take some sort of a backhanded shot at him. And then on the one occasion that they, they actually emerged with the victory. He got all Pissy about the people who take the things that Gruden says and interprets them to mean that he's not happy with with their car. One of the things Chris sim says about Jon Gruden because he played for in Tampa for several years. He treats the offense like a Ferrari, and he gives you the keys and he doesn't want to scratch. If you scratch, gets pissed off and car's been scratching the hell out of that thing this year. So I, I don't know, you know, Gruden inherited car and if you're decides another way to go, it's not impossible. In fact, it's easier than you'd think to get out from under cars contract. That's all I'm saying. You know, a lot of times. Team is stuck with a guy with a big contract. Raiders are by no means stuck with car and grew Gruden gonna have the ability to look around if you wants to. He strikes me as a guy that would absolutely get rid of his high paid quarterback and in like six veterans who are all over the age of thirty three. Yeah, but that's what he likes. He likes an older guy that is going to do what he says and figured out. He's not gonna have to teach him. He doesn't have to groom young guy, and you know, I mean, I'm just spitballing here. But what about like a Ryan Fitzpatrick? Wouldn't that be a perfect group says Las Vegas, like Ryan, I liked. I like the Ferrari analogy because even had Derek Carr crying on the field today, like, yes, go home and tell his dad that he scratched up the fraud. Eddie raft also, his name's wwl. It looked like he was crying like a little kid like got sent to its room really bizarre. Well, you had to go back to the sideline and face. Jon Gruden tried to. So along those lines are are the Seahawks back or is Oakland just that bad. I think it's still too early to tell. I mean, look to see Hochstadt beat by the Rams last week at home and they fell way behind in the division. And I think they just have to scratch, offer wildcard burst. And what's that really mean? You get a wild card berth and you gotta start going on the road. I don't think they're good enough to win in the play offs. I think if they get the place at the huge accomplishment too early, they've cleared them back. I just think the raiders have done. Okay. Yeah, unchain moving onto another situation where we don't know what's going to happen with the future of the franchise quarterback, the giants in ally manning, what the hell do they do? He is the worst quarterback in the league in terms of like a tenured guy, I'm not talking about filling guys or backup guys. He's at the end of his, you know, his great career, but are the giants. What are they gonna? Do. I mean, they are. They gonna play out the structure theline manning, it sure looks like. I mean, I think they're stuck with the way they mishandled it last year went Ben mcadoo decided to a properly bench Eli manning for chino Smith, and they did a bad job of just getting the the w-. Word out there away. You can kinda work the media and just get the idea introduced into the into the the stream of consciousness that maybe that change is going to be made. I mean, it was all too sudden it was all too quick and it was all too jarring for fan base that loves ally man. And and I think that that that makes it harder for them to to separate from him now. So after the year, look, if they finished with the worst record in football and they get the first overall pick in the draft, then you have to move on morning Joe money, they owe money next year. Yeah. But at some point, at some point, you just have to write it off and move on. Right? I mean, you just have to the question is will eat on manning, wanna keep playing. I mean, there's certain point. Don't you just say, this is no longer for me, like how stubborn do you have to be the key playing when you clearly don't have it anymore. In the one question I haven't. I'm not the Senate manning by any means. I got a ton of respect for him, but I don't know that he'd got any real blocking. Now that means you gotta get rid of the ball faster and he's just not doing it but Thursday night. I mean, it was just like he was running away from guys. All night that setting it up and try to get something done. We dispute though that he has the best hand off in football great handle means to Quan was was great, but that's not all on sequential. That's a little bit Eli too. I don't wanna get all like Xs and os on this, but here's a, you got a guy like saquon Barkley who who can do so much for you, and I don't feel like they're designing their offense around, say on, like Cowboys do around Zico. Why aren't they running this guy running this guy running this cat, trying to draw safety up and then throw the ball, play action over the top. You don't sense. They're doing that. They should be treating saquon Barkley like the Cowboys treat Elliott like the Vikings trees. Adrian Peterson, the offense goes through this guy instead of him just being, you know, a piece in a bigger puzzle because there's the puzzles crap. And I feel like if they, if they refocused their offense strategy, they still have a chance to try to win some games they may. They may burn out Barkley in the process, but when you have a guy that good, I think you need to make him the centerpiece year off at. All right. Last question about the giants. Is there any way you could see the giants trying to shop owed l. Beckham because this feels like he just signed this huge deal. He's already complaining. I get most wide receivers are, are the best wide receivers. You know, in the National Football League, you'll see some guys who were maybe, you know, I, I don't know March to the beat of their own drummer, have the theatrics, whatnot, but Odell it seems like he's now starting to take away from the team you're going to walk remotely. I, we saw that we know when Randy moss did that with Vikings that was kind of the end for him. So that kind of stuff is always not looking good. Do you see any way the giants try to shop them? Here's what I'd have to have to look at the specific cat consequence, but they just signed that contract. I think he got a twenty million dollar signing bonus and other guaranteed money, and I think it would be cap charged. It would be too much to digest this year off season, maybe a different story. But I think kinda stuck with this guy. I don't think they know what to do. They had concerns about giving them a bunch of money that he was not going to respond the way that they thought the way that they hoped and look at how he's responded. I mean, he says those things that yes, PIN last week. And then he apologizes, then he says, he doesn't need to apologize and who knows whether he's going to be the guy that they need to be from an attitude. Stamp writing here somebody great point last week. He said that there needs to be something that organization that hose accountable and no one does and until they have someone can hold them accountable. They're gonna have these issues and they have to ask themselves, can they find somebody to do it? And I'm not saying they go one and done with Pat Shurmur, but you're gonna have somebody in that organization. They can get through to Oto Beckham junior, or it's gonna drag you down until you finally can't trade him just son, Steve Smith senior just to be in that locker room next and yell at him when he does some stuff like or punch him in the face. Yeah, well time, yeah, if allegedly, we'll what? What about can they cut him for cause? And I have to pay him if he keeps damaging company property on the sidelines. Hey. No, I think that they still have. They still have cap costs. I don't. I don't know that there's ever been a phone is forfeiture are arising from headbutting a cooling fan. Okay, so it'd be new precedent. So I, I wanna talk to you about the big game that everyone's talking about, and that was the bears dolphins. Brock is as Wyler just earn himself another like one year eighteen million dollar deal from this performance all out who's gonna sign him next year, right? Maybe the giants signed him next year. And the only place that he works is in Miami where he knows the offense. I talked to Adam gay after the game. I mean, he, he found out this morning that Ryan tannehill wasn't going to be able to go. And he texted us while you're the guy because he knows the offense inside now. And I think for the bears, like all of a sudden it becomes one of those games. Yeah, we got to show up and win. Bashing, the bears trap game. He's love. Bashing, the bears the bears, but I think the bears fourteen days to get ready for you, ready for tannehill on. Do show up win, hey, do what about your quarterback? Kirk cousins. Look like he was on drugs when he celebrated that touchdown. That the drug of choice? Yeah, that that was disgusting. Disgusting. All right. I wanna follow up on the ten health and because like a quarterback with an AC injury, that's like, I don't know why came up out of like a last second thing, but is that something that's going to the dolphins for the next several weeks because I could see it being like a month. Yeah. Yeah, they are very tight lipped about about tannehill status, and it was weird. Let me tell you it was weird what happened because he's questionable on Friday. And then at some point between Friday and Sunday morning, he can't play and I asked to leave about this nothing. I'm trying to be a narc, but it seems like they're getting more lax about the injury reporting, and I think you need to be going the other way. Now that gambling is is becoming more widespread you. You can't allow these these, you know these irregularities. And like last week, the raiders Colletti assembly was questionable when he didn't travel to LA to play the chargers. They never downgraded into out just little things like that that used to be a given. I, I don't know why can't hill wasn't downgraded to at least doubtful at some point this weekend. And I asked the league about in the league saying anything about it because I think they just prefer not to talk about it, but it's something to keep an eye on because as gambling grows more and more people are going to be paying attention into reports, and I just feel like teams are taking liberties with in the his never did. Big. Yeah. Worse in the history of wet blankets. No wet blanket has ever started the sentence not to be dark and come out gut you are narc you're not right. But you know what, if I didn't say that, then you guys would have started going dark. Our favorite movie. You not a knock. Mike Florio spot is brought to you by fan fan dot com. Slash PMT. I had a huge week because I started Todd Gurley Micoud your beer, big start. If you're putting out your fan to align them. Wait a minute. Sponsored by Sandra and I don't get a check for it. Is that what you're telling me? No, you don't, but you have to sweet. It's integrated ad. So who'd you start who'd be your big, start this week? Wait a minute, and the response to be. Nobody gives a shit. Oh, it's this isn't like, I'm not gonna. You actually don't trash fantasy Haley's. Doc trash because I need. We ask our guests Newquest start. Yeah. So what's the question is who your big start next weekend next weekend? I haven't even thought those are big star today. Then my big star today. I heck I always James what's known. Might it might come on. Doesn't I pot. Hake space when I did that ad. Like what the hell that's not an ad. You've gotten to smart. So I had to. To give credit. You guys have been trying to say to get me to talk about my fantasy team for like eight months now and it's about time you change, wow. You've geez, you're sitting James on your bench. That's actually kind of probably. Yeah, no, but I'm saying the last four weeks, you had James on your bench, your team stink. I know I've been squatting on James squatting on both. What's your? What's your team's record then you don't care. Team records sponsored by fans. I have. I want you to be able to defend yourself because I saw you going on Twitter today and getting in the muddle. Their Carson Wentz is damaged goods. That was a Mike, Mike Florio quote, please, please defend yourself w. I t a week and a half ago and they posed the question of between Patrick Mahomes Jared, Goff, and and Carson Wentz. How would you rank them right now? How would you want them? And I said, Mahomes then cough then Wentz because once his damaged goods and he got the tornado, she Allen place with reckless. Abandon. He's gonna get hurt again, you know that that's the way he got his his knee torn up last year. It was on a headfirst dive into the goal line and he does that same way on Thursday night. He's gonna get himself hurt again. That's just the way it is. Eagles fans don't like hearing it, but it's the truth. One last question for me. I was reading a book shocker, but I read the, I read the first fifteen pages of a book, and it reminded me of, you'll spat that you had with Adam chef. After and many of the haters and losers last year when you said that Josh mcdaniels is having second thoughts about joining the colts, has Adam of Ripon you for that? What did you do? You get to page forty. One of Mark Leibovich book. Yeah. It's a really good book and you guys should get, we will on good. Yeah, I know of course he we, he doesn't like me, that's they don't start. Let's not start down that path. Okay, you're, I mean you are you do you have people don't like you, but we always got your back. Listen, I, I mean, I'm not in this business to make friends, although I'm happy that I've made friends in the two of you touching. That's that's very fair. So this actually is a real ad part of the show. The seek question. You get a prudent put promo code take and you get ten dollars off your Seekie question. I went to the big house on Saturday night. Watch the badgers get absolutely steamrolled, but it was nice because see key cooked us up. You can do it with seek put him promo code take this is officially Levy on bell week. So how's this all going to play out? Well, you know, I reported tonight on football night in America NBC that the Steelers still haven't heard anything from Lamey on bell. And this is the Wiki supposed to show up, and here's the one wrinkle that that that nobody is talking about and. You know, I say that kinda tongue-in-cheek because we always hate when somebody says, hey, nobody's talking about this, but this is actually true. Nobody's talking about this when he shows up and he says, I'm ready to sign the franchise tender. If the Steelers are gonna use it to week roster exemption and they'll have the ability to ask for that. They have to agree with bell on how much they're gonna pay him while he's on roster exemption. Before he signs the franchise tender and they may say, living on, you're going to be getting in shape for the next two weeks for not paying eight hundred fifty, five thousand dollars a week. We wanna pay three hundred or three fifty or four hundred, whatever it is. And if they don't reach an agreement and he doesn't sign the tender. This thing continues. That's the one factor that never gets discussed except right now. So you guys can claim credit for having the only I like the only podcast that is that is addressing that wrinkle and he can so he could show up. They haven't heard from. He could show up and he can say, Murdy the sign and they say, well, you know, we only want to pay you three hundred grand. When you're on roster exemption, he says, go to hell walks right out the door. Interesting. How much are they really missing him? I mean, I, I know counters filling in, you know, he's doing okay, but what does lay what would he bring to the. Offense that's missing right now. Well, I, you know, that's right. They're doing well with James Caan. So you could argue that he's more trouble than he's worth because he's going to be worried about getting injured is gonna worry about getting overused. And I think that the Steelers are considering all their options with lady on bell, and I still don't rule out the possibility of them trading him as soon as he comes back to a team like the eagles or you know another, you know, and you never know one in injuries gonna happen to the trade deadline is the Tuesday after weekday. Remember back in two thousand eleven Carson Palmer had decided he was retiring wanna play for the Bengals and yeah, and the Sunday before the trade deadline, Jason Campbell breaks a caller about and next thing you know, Carson Palmer playing for the raiders so anything can happen the next couple of weeks. But I think the Steelers get value for bell. If they just remove the franchise tender, not gonna get anything for. So I think I think they're looking at everything and I think they're ready to move on from him for good. They just know that if they removed the franchise tender, they get nothing. So maybe there's a way to bring him back and then quickly. Trade. Interesting. Here. Here's a dumb question. Why aren't there more trades in the NFL. Well, I mean, I think that that it's hard during the season to take a guy from another team and Jim into your system and expect that there's going to be an immediate return. You know what I mean? Right. Especially festively receivers, running backs. Defensively is a little bit easier, but we'll see some trades. Usually it's guys in the last year. The contract Bill Belva check likes to trade for guys like that. 'cause then leaves free agents. You get a compensatory draft, pick the following you heating, and there's, there's always guys that we're not thinking of end up getting traded. So look look for something to happen that you know, we'll be we'll be looking at five or six different guys. Amari Cooper, Patrick Peterson call owes at this guy, that guy, and then it's going to be somebody thinking about who gets traded JJ last year when he got Philly. Okay. Mike, you're the best. Thank you as always. We appreciate it. Try to stay little taller, maybe get those lifts inside. Got you on that. I feel bad, but James, it was funny. I like I thought like, did he gets a complete and total moron? They keep setting us up the same. Yeah. I thought that before you brought it up, but now they meant more little piece of advice, maybe grow the sideburns out, make your face local and pelvis situation. Yeah, Monterey sideburns creeping down right now. Yeah. I mean that had be standing next to Chris Simms tonight in the final segment of the show like six five. So it looked like, you know, I was. I was on my knees when you see Chris Simms. Next, we just remind me, doesn't have a spleen and we take note of everything. He says that's bad about Blake Bortles I almost I almost made a reference to him not having a splaine on the air tonight, but I thought that probably was not go. Joked about it and it wasn't. It wasn't a very funny. Joke joke, we'll we'll hand up wasn't are funniest show put. He's a nice guy except for the Blake Bortles, bashing, wait. So you guys are still all in with Bortles. Okay. Ever. See Mike. Ever see Mike. Have a good one. That interview with Mike Florio. 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What was his final stat line? He thirds here. Here's here's something only nine. That's only nine year that, yeah, improvement in strive in life to be like David price where you. Set the bar so impossibly low for yourself that pitching four, four, two thirds in foreign runs is actually people are saying you were dominant. Yep, that's good or walk. Listen, I mean one out away from the wind. What more could you told you. Told you win tonight that you get that you get four and two thirds and only four runs you take that, right? Absolutely. So David price, which is kind of upset with David price and clean Kershaw like imploding in October is is fun to watch it meltdown actually very fun to see that game. Yeah, just it would take a long time chief. Do you know what to burn through the bullpens in the third inning price did to himself fucked himself over he future David price to have to deal with current David prices dominance, four and two-thirds four drums because he's now's maybe to pitch like game six. Yeah. And face, like a bigger situation. That was a mistake, my friend, you could've just lost tonight and then been done with it. Yeah, it's like going out on on like your first five dates and then paying for it every single time guest. You're gonna. You should have gone Dutch one of those gifts because you're gonna regret it latest typically, though he is due for Jim, that's no tonight. Jim overdo, this was no. No, no, no. This was a David price. Jim to warm up that was like the pre conversation about premium. That was the pre warm up the gym. That's going to dumb question. Why don't say, why don't they just move them to the bullpen? That's make sense. Also. Why don't they start him on the road? Because I actually think when a player gets that bad, it's worse to start them at home because getting booed by your home fans like on the road. If you stink, they'll probably cheer you, which is kinda nice. Yeah, like no matter if it's our cast cheering, it's still cheering or if they bloom, then you can reach deep down inside to you're like, fuck them. Yeah. If they're billing you at home, you're more likely be like these, like, fuck them, they really as opposed to fuck them? Yeah, different. Fucking, yeah. It's totally different at these are supposed to be my fuck them. They're supposed to be a buddies. Yeah, right. Yeah. So. The I. I mean, these are two really good, Syria fun to watch the the biggest story of the week. And was Joe west getting drilled into shoulder? Actually, I think that was that was his gullet goes down all the way to so fall. Yeah, he has. He didn't get it. Joe crush Joe west is the first person to get into a staring contest with a ball coming out and he lost well. And it was great to because he was standing. He actually was standing in a spot where it didn't affect the play. You want. You can make the argument that help the Red Sox would have been out in the field, but he just did there didn't even flinch just I mean, I think he's just he's been in the unpire world for so long. Eaton enough steakhouses across the country that he just has a human chest protector on an all time. Yeah, I just I when I was a kid I used to -ssume that just every unpire was fat. Yeah, because I didn't know this fair most of them are right. It's not like it's not like college football, weird fucking doing bicep curls today. When are we? What are we gonna have like really checked on pyre that should happen some it. We should have had it already. Yeah, we should've had it already overdue, I think being a baseball, there's not a lot of physical activity you stand? Yeah. And now all it takes a long time to get into the the pros to write his longtime. The pros and now you even are can be Lazier because the t the replay like Joe Hernandez was that came one or no? Was it the? I can't remember which game angel Hernandez. He screwed up like five -secutive first place, call calls first place in this. Who cares? They all end up being right because you know, they all like we switched him. The replay was fine. You know it. You don't have to do if you drill Joe west like that on throw to second base. I get the feeling like the other team is going to buy you drinks after the game. Yeah, that's the great UniteR between us. It's like the the meme Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes. And the other guy shaking hands and in the middle? Yeah, that's what the Red Sox. That's that's what they were doing with the Astro. Yeah. So that was talking baseball. We have more baseball coming up. Let's do perspective. So we got perspective, it's kind of actually a toss up who had the better perspective. So after the game, Bruce Irvin after the raiders game preserve said, we lost, but I've got a beautiful wife. I gotta get home to boy. I'm going to try to make some babies man. Okay, that's pretty good. I was gonna have sex bridge on you sit. I'm going to have sex right in everyone's face and then Nathan Peterman after throwing after saying, I've got this to the coaching staff and then throwing to backbreaking interceptions said at the end of the day, I know where my true identity lies in Christ being child. God, basically not finding my dentist and football, just trying to find it in in who I really am. I love this game and put everything I have into this game, but can't let it define me. That's a great way of saying, I suck and like God, God won't stop me from going to heaven. Yeah. 'cause I'm a terrible quarterback. It's also maybe God's just testing more like with Russell Wilson? Yes, I do your job. I thinks peterman's king spin zones. Yeah. Well, I mean the interceptions being a lesson. You could also make the argument that he's being selfish because his spin zone is I get to go to heaven. So in your face everyone else child. Child. Cod is also creepy, isn't there? Yeah, it's kinda strange child ear child of God when it comes to Bruce Irvin problem, he's less selfish because he's creating a new kid that can one day go to heaven. True, true. He he's creating another child. Got, yeah, he's flexing on everyone. He can create unlimited children of got, yeah, I, although I could see Jon Gruden putting in some limitations on sex steam out. That's that's the next move for junk. Yes, he'd take the ping pong table. Wait, no jerking off in no sex. Would you consider child? Got definitely like a distant relative yet bastard child. The goddamn, like a son of a son of God. Yeah, you know, God, he lives down the street. He, he actually has banned you from playing video games in his house. Yeah, you know how Zeus depends on which God we're talking about because Zeus us through fuck like goats and stuff, and then their offspring would be half. Gods might be the son of a half got ago. Yes, you go, I'm quarter goat. Yeah, that makes sense. We'll find out. Twenty-three me. We have just talking Jon Gruden one of our favorite segments because Jon Gruden somehow keeps talking in. He really needs to stop. So he was asked on trading Mark Hooper after the game is a direct quote. I don't know. No, I haven't heard that. You know, I'm not. I'm not. You know. I'm just sorry to have to deal with a lot of these reports, but I just hope it Maris. Okay. Like I said, he's going to be a big part of our past offense. Yes. So this was code for market got his head caved in so day I tried to, I don't feel comfortable saying that we're trying to train them or acknowledging that Mario Cooper Amari Cooper got to capitated the day that I leaked to my friends in the media that we're trying to train them, which is Jon Gruden Gabby pretty upset about that. That probably takes his trade value. Yes, right. It's like, well, does this guy have a concussion? Can't trade form now. God damn it. Yeah. Dinged up. Do you think Jong rooms gonna try to go back and get Khalil Mack back. Do you think he's made a phone call? Yeah. Five first round picks. What I don't think I'd trade five. I Trump I think he's probably done that. Yeah. All right moment of weakness. He's like, he's he's been asleep and he slept walked to his phone in like made it Senate tax? Yeah, he he called up Ryan pace Hayes. True. There's no back sees. What the fuck did you get my number you? Yeah. So yeah, if I'm juggernaut just would have said like, oh, I don't understand your question with your silly, British accent. Yes, yes. Even though this. From the American reporters. Everyone just doesn't just up talking just up, talk to stop talk. We have a bad visual for Conor McGregor. So con- McGregor was at the Cowboys game today, he's promoting his new whiskey. Shout out what's. Phuc. No, it's. Twelve, something twelve. I think it's Faulk. We're friends with shadow pride. Acts rod, because we're, he's got a whiskey traveling around or at the Cowboys game. What does it say? Hank Sates name, full name, proper number twelve was proper. Plug for maybe get him on the show, but Conor McGregor how to throw a football. And I love this because nothing makes nothing gives me more of an ego boost than watching professional athletes from other sports. Try to do things that we learned how to do is kids when you see Rinaldo or messy, China throw full. I'm better athlete than Conor McGregor. Yeah. Now he did throw a better than some college teams, quarterbacks knocking name names who might also be lefthanded knocking to name names, but it was terrible. Yeah, it was pretty bad. He looked like bad versions of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, he should have he. There needs to be like a, it needs to actually be a guy who stands, they're like, hey, Connor today. They're going to ask you to throw in American football. You need to just knock that guy out. Yeah. So there are things that when when a politician goes across the country, yes, that they're not supposed to do in front of cameras. If you're in the biz like you. Shouldn't eat a corn dog no matter what no matter what, what about a mini quarter going to be? No, no, that's even worse from Buffalo Wild Wings. Yes, that's actually great. That's you should always do. Okay. I'm sure need a corn dog you should. You should generally not throughout out any first pitches because the the downside is way worse than the upside of that. Yes, you shouldn't. Fuck twice. Yeah. But like there's there's bad visuals that are just state in fact that are just waiting to happen. And I think throwing football is one. It was a strike if it was like it was a, it was a, it was an old to pitch, and I was trying to. I was trying to get him to chase one. He would chase go ahead. Sorry. PF teed always publishes interrupt. No, fine. I was saying I was just saying that that, yeah, you're all throwing a football should be one of the things. I pretty sure it's on the list. Like if you saw rob Ford, try to throw football wrestle. That was that was trips to, but spin zone you're kinda McGregor and you can knock, basically everyone out except could be. Yeah. So as long as as long as. Veep doesn't tell you this real football, good if Habib shows up. Hey, Connor. Can you throw this football real quick? Don't do that. Connor. Do not throw that football, Jerry Jones. You know, it's just like all amped up. After the game, he I, this isn't a direct quote, but he basically said he's a very clean well put together, man. He looked like a pianist who so what does that? I don't. I don't know. Jerry Jones also definitely talked in Irish accent to them all. He can't understand me unless I talked to an Irish, he poured scotch into his own mouth tried to speak through the sky, right shock sent to them. They could rip it up or last up. We have trouble in paradise Arianna Guerande in Pete Davidson. Have broken up. Oh my God, I we're gonna make other gonna be married for seventy five. It was like these two. And then John legend and Chrissy Teigen to people that. Things happening threes you think their next who's the other one, John legend, Christine, but who's who two? Well, it's p Davidson. Ariana GRANDE Tom Cruise and whatever. Yeah. No, it's breakup. Celebrity comes slow. Hank, you know somebody couples named Rachel, no France to Haley, build win in what's not. And beeps are together. Yeah, they're going to break up. Okay. Shit. If that's not Jennifer, Aniston digits break up with her guy, Brad principal ever. Well, she gets broke up with right lot. It's it's kind of by the way I'm thinking about getting the Rachel, the haircut, what do you think? I don't know what it is to look at it. Yes, hang hang. Hang is actually a little bit too into Rachel? Yeah, the Rachel friends, but either way Pete Davidson, I really thought. Oh, yeah, you should. Yeah. Yeah, Kate. Okay. You shouldn't cut your hair though. Danny wins by the way. Danny's fancy team there. Tearing shit up. You should get the rates without. Absolutely. Would be awesome, but yes, so Pete Davidson Arianna ground, Hank, do you have any say about this? Are you shocked as we are Peterson, I heard I'm shocked at stake. I'm shocked at someone that would defend her boyfriend's butthole is then break up with them right lesson to 'cause I feel like she didn't know that maybe that was able to last the butthole is might have been it from chap. It's one of those things that like when you hear it the first time you act like you're going up, but it's going to be in the pack your mind when Chaffetz wrote that blog and I clicked on the link. The first one does Pete Davidson butthole ause I click on. I said, holy shit. Those are Huys, and then you can't get that out of your head. Wonder if one I would probably happen is Pete Davidson woke up one morning and are granted was trying to wipe his eyes with toilet paper and was like, what are you doing? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's just a nervous. Tic tell you. They provide some poop in your Buttle just woke this show, but basically all Davidson's SNL appearances have been talking. About their relationship. So they might just be like going for ratings, like trying to milk it? No. Hey, come on. We liberty couple will do that. So you're saying love Israel because they're still together on. I'm staying woke on the fact that love might be real. Maybe they were just never dating. Are we say your name wrong, Arianna areas at grand grandba- it's 'Grande like the like the coffee. I wanna ground. Okay. All right. Yeah. Is it? I don't know. I have no GRANDE British people say grind might do we say 'Grande 'Grande. Okay. My my big thing. There's an either you gotta fuck and say the, he's not just hanging out. I'm very woke on anything that happens the morning after an SNL cast party. So you know, maybe some. I don't know. Maybe someone's butthole is ended up in the butthole. Yeah, but hold the butthole action. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Scissor just I fucking someone. Yeah, don't make my Brown eyes Browner. Ooh, damn. All right, Wednesday, we have a big guest and again, don't freak out, but we'll talk to you guys on Wednesday love. Yes. Today's day. Coming. John. It's pardon. My take presented by bar stool.

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#1310 - Sober October 2019 Preview

The Joe Rogan Experience

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#1310 - Sober October 2019 Preview

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It's not really but it is it's already June, July August September October. It's going to be here before, you know, it, and we have no idea what our challenge is going to be. So this podcast will be ridiculous. We'll probably be intoxicated, and I hope you enjoy it. So please welcome. The sober October crew. The Joe Rogan experience Joe Rogan podcast my. Probably right now. How so. Tell me about the tour bus this tour bus champ. No, no, no, no. He's not. That's still here. The store, only one one victory in this whole thing who's the tour bus. He came so close to the weight loss. We have one year where it was, like, socialist Marxist. No one could lose. Yeah. Even if you lost it didn't matter that that was coming. Yeah. There was this year. This year is gonna be good one listen last year almost killed myself. Yeah. We gotta do it differently than that. You're ping fucking purple wasn't purple but it wasn't the right color. What color was Brown? I was worried, but it wasn't. It was just dehydration. Severe dehydration. There was days where I would drink literally, like fucking gallons of water. Yeah. You don't want is I try it without personally. Crazy. I was drinking so much drinking water, noes, adding salt to it as that Himalayan salt to the water was because I know I was dehydrating myself so much I would have puddles on the ground. He's still. There wasn't sufficient sufficiently. I set up a set off in the Larmer. I remember that set off a fire alarm in the gym from my sweat. Never heard. Of course, I still have PTSD from last year. So Brock Tober, I text from you guys panic sits in my heart, and I go, what is it gets it? She thinks I'm crazy for sure. I moved and I just sets why the only one who had the home life. The if I come to New York, it would have been, I mean, LA would have been terrible for an extra month. But, like I saw that fucking stupid device. When I was moving I opened up a anymore. Anymore. I was getting out of here. Chucky doll. I'm coming for you. Yeah. I think leeann push you're gonna podcast this entire. Sobre ctober. She threw you under the bus on the puck and radio station story didn't hear that story. You why? You guys you do why swaps story she was they were asking about drugs and how hard I party and just talking shit. And I was like, you know I go a little bit of weed out every now and then cocaine's on a switch plate. I'll hit it but for. I only I only do mushrooms once a year and just heard me. She's making breakfast for the girls because he doesn't do mushrooms, and he doesn't do cocaine. He's got high blood pressure bits. I'm trying to move tickets and Dayton. Under the bus tour fault dates vailable now available right now dude. Yeah. Right now right now right now right now. Bert dot com is weird. You sound like you're coming off a coke bender. Tore in hard food. But think think about Tom like when you first started going on the road with me, your Ray far further ahead now than it was. Oh, right. When he was opening for me. Yeah we weren't doing clubs. We're doing all clubs. We started theaters when you started to headline your own places. That's true. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. Tenuous quick I was thinking about about that level. You were at that we all thought was like damn. Well, yeah. I mean it's like you, you know someone like it successful. Yeah. Right. Right. It seems normal. Right. You like sense, like, oh I could sell out this whole weekend to. Yeah. And then when you do you like oh shit. Like what the fuck comedian? I'm a real comedian, I sell out a club and it's just because we got in shape, I didn't even think about just because it's so wrong because. I didn't think about the enters back then like when we were all right in club. No. We were just doing clubs. Like I had done a couple of theaters here and there. But for the most part, it was just about to work in. Yeah. That's what I said, was like, what do you want to do with cruise like, and I'd like to clubs because theater, like I couldn't do theater because why? Because you said, you could do whatever you want, and I was like, all right dice got me to go on the road. He really planted a fucking seat in my head one day in the back parking lot of the comedy store. So why don't you do the road? I said, I don't know you'll say they'll fucking just hang around here, and he's like you can make a good living because you don't need these fucking TV guys. And I was like, wow, he's right. I was thinking about it. And I was like he's right. Has changed my life. You I've said this a million times, but you and Bill Burr in the back of the store, telling me, you shows not that good, you should just quit stand up. That you are way better than that. I'm like you're not even doing your up Justice. I got see you do stand up. It's like you hadn't done it. In five months, you've been fucking Thailand, or some shit swinging off of a tree. Roller coaster within specialties. Also, I was worried you were going to hilt do so many different things. But so many different places I call them up once he was drunk on a motorcycle in Vietnam. Yeah. Vietnam, drug this alert. He learned these completely unnecessary skill to Eddie van. Unicycle what I learned in Rome, I could do whatever I want to go. Okay. He's out harder than when them hover boards. What's harder? Oh, the do those hover boards for in the in the in the ocean on the, the. No. I don't mean that. I mean, the things that the kids, roar out on just a wheel wheels wheel, the middle rich rebuilds that YouTube channel. Do you know, rich in wa he's, he's a YouTube host? And he also he fixed his he's like the first guy to ever build a tesla. He bought a junk tesla that somebody had let get flooded with water, and he's just a really smart guy, and he's a tech guy. So he's like, okay, what the fuck is in that thing, how do I fix this? Like so all the wires were fucked up the battery was toast. So the crashed one and he took the battery and the engine out of the crashed one and put it in the one that he owned, and then rewire and went through this crazy process to get a tesla to work that eventually did. And now he has his own garage. It's what's called the electric garage in Massachusetts, where he rebuilds these Tesla's. But what was my point? Oh, he had one of those with a big ass fat tire. We ride on board. That's hard that looked hard. Hard to do John almost killed someone on a on a segue. One time I was in Rome, and we were on segues, and I was just screwing around and then I just hopped off. And then realize that when you hop off if you're leaning forward, it's the keeps going and this thing started whipping around me just shoot. We're in like a big Piazza. And I let just like ov- it didn't hit anyone. But everyone around us was standing dead still like, oh my God, I would've been bodied right there. You're supposed to dive on it. Like a like a good hero. Do you know what funding eight there's no way you're doing that? No way you'd have to take team. Fifteen people died. Walkout casually. I don't know. Whatever does harbor those hover boards that are excessive jetskis where you go, like forty feet up in the air. Oh, those are those are fun as. Those who look cool. I like the guys who can it turned over. And then it starts to go down, and they just with extra speed just shoot colored, what are they make? Those things are fun as fuck legit. Yeah, I could do a live on one. All you gotta do is like fall backwards. And then kick your feet around. I picked up on that one quick. Yeah. There's a lot of useless skills. From travel channel you, you traveled so much. My god. Always bothered me. Why bother me because I would have probably done it to was you. And I was like, God damn it. How do you get out of that, because I know that feeling like it's the best job ever. You're on a TV show on have the best job ever amount of TV show. But yet you're still like fuck. I gotta get out of this. Yes, we because you do get go really cool places and get paid for it. Yeah. That was cool. But you also mean you're real, can you miss the end up more? I missed I missed an well. What was happening? Tom's. Career was exploding at the, the day I fell off a waterfall. Do you remember that? Yeah. It was in Aspen, and push called me. She's like I'm talking to Tommy, he's talking about these one nighters, but I want to do the funny bones now so far removed from standup. I didn't even I didn't even know you. Do one nighters. I didn't know that theaters were an option. Was that a store a week later, and you're like, you know, Tom's doing like, legit theaters. And I remember just going I missed what if I just missed it entirely e could have in some people do we all know guys that were really funny back in the day. And then they somehow another quit fell apart to what if you had been like I'm gonna lean into travel channel, dude, I was. If you became a Christian, like super person gotta cross tattoo on your arm just to let them know really down with them. I'm sure you're told you all those things church church with a fucking golf shirt on. When I got fired from travel channel, I'm world melted down. That was right when we were getting fat shamed. I was getting fashion named leeann scheduled a music. We were getting such as if. Hold on a second. You saying you, you saying you getting fat shamed. But you got to let people know like you don't really believe in fact, shaming you weren't really getting fat on that. At the time it was very one sided deal thing, at the time I got fired from travel channel. I was die definitely. It was one sided, and I felt it hard as your friend was fucking with you, because he was worried. You're going to die. You want to do it, though. Major platform. It wasn't like morning radio. He was on another level on his fuck. It special are the Netflix dude. Imagine taking cold parents, which is massive at the time and you go now I'm gonna use this for fun, trying to promote myself, DJ dad mouth is my favorite characters, but his thanks man. Show that was that that was so loved that you were doing that. Because I hated those shows I was like, why would he do those shows TV's the terrible? You do morning TV dressed up like a fake rapper. She's this cigarette created a character called DJ dad mouth, and he would just show up places and the people did not know what the fuck do with them because the lowest rung in all of show business is morning television television. So sorry if you listen to this, and you're a local morning television ice deliver newspapers. Okay. Way, better than morning hosts. It's it's one of the lowest runs in all showbiz. It's a weird wrong, where you're trapped. It's like it's like you're broadcasting out of like a Christian convenience store or something. It's very strange. The worst part two is the four of us plus like ninety percent of the acts, working those clubs. Do not have a fan base watching that show. You put it together. You're like this is definitely a waste of time. We're wasting our time, right? Yeah. That's the only one that morning. Yeah, we'll be up at fucking six to do this to do. Good morning Hartford. It only works when you when you get in trouble lanes, you get, like I remember one time I got shirtless and went up in the, in the weather and started saying, there's thunderstorms, Tom to DJ, have you ever seen more Norman's Mark Norma's gray when he just goes up? And she goes how you doing? He goes kinda gay. Let's get this started. Hungover horny. We'll get you. I mean he just don't. Destroys totally ruined the relationship for the club. One hundred percent now I went in there. Morgan, tracy. Morgan says my first one. The puck and legend go. That's the one when talks get pregnant pause. He ran Philip. That's my main coal. Dares dying dying, when he does that big one in Shuki, who's in Chicago for sure. 'cause I know you kept hollering at bulls. To get in the middle of it. His trash. He just crashed his two million dollar Bugatti today today. Yup. Honda side swiped him in hell's kitchen. I got hit by deriving savage ran into a two million dollar Italian sports car. I, I did a show with him like a year and a half ago, one of the oddball shows, and he came in a all white Rolls, Royce with a professional driver. You know, like a chauffeur, and he came in all white and had like a, a fucking enormous gold chain with a medallion TM chain. Looks crazy. It's like six hundred thousand so some crazy shit. Today. Yeah. This guy sideswiped, Tracy Morgan's convertible, two million dollar Bugatti. What he's letting people know. Well, what's he the highest? The Hondas defense. It's a very low car. He is a high car. He probably looked oversaw. Nothing. Fuck you knows car. That was like two feet off the ground. A small car. What did you cars are so hard to see if you're right next to them, what does that do insurance? They when he calls you what hundred cover this. Fuck they probably that'll probably be like the final straw. Yeah. Probably kick them off the contrary for sure. Would that Tracy Morgan interview that was kind of had to be an inspiration during the DJ dad mouth, right to me. That was the first one. I remember, like, I guess someone could fuck with you could fuck with them in that way. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean it was funny because some people would be really into having fun with you. Like the Tracy Morgan people were they laugh, and they have good time, and then some people, the meet, like I could see how close relationship could because we left one of the clubs when I told him, I was coming out as non binary and the lady was like what is on the air house, as different genders? And she was like, all right? And she's turning the TV, and she was like a she's was, and then she called in, like we called, the, the PR person that drove us to the club. Didn't realize she's an accomplished you what the fuck was that. She was like, was that guy? So weird. Don't bring stuff like that in here. That's the whole point. We don't want to come in here. They, they think that what they're doing a serious, we're providing a wonderful morning show for downtown Pittsburgh. You're showing them how to make fucking I try try me saying. So, so dumb. What what a great sandwich. Hey, thanks a lot. We've got. Chris is going to sing for us next. I try shitting on the last time I went to Cleveland it was the normal. That's why another relationship still find. But I was like, there was a doctor before me. I was like, why does he wears fucking Dr outfit to do this on the way or he put a sweater on? Left. That'd be feels like you're stepping into Truman show stuff, so contrived there's nothing real, especially when there's like a twenty two year old PA or, or associate producer, one time I went in, and I said, yeah, I'm already drunk from doing radio. I can just put the Michael my necklace, and she was why gonna take my shirt off. She goes, you will not be doing that. And I said, you don't. Excuse me. I'll be right back and then came back. And she goes what is in your Cup? And I said, whiskey. She was like he's drinking. He's drinking told on all my God. And I was just like I was like we should buy leave say just left his left. I was like, I don't wanna get anyone fired. She's telling you, you can't take your shirt off. So had a drink or have a drink. I love how it's like she's telling me she found something like I was poor you in front of everybody. I don't want to check out of the bottle. I think she's out an insurance company. Yeah. It's hilarious. And people don't know what job there in take it more. Seriously? Those morning shows off like the way we're talking about like the best morning show. It'd be so much. Green had a great great when our memory now back when he was like public access. Yeah. He's trying to promote public access. Tom green show. And he just took over. He did some crazy highs in the face. Yeah, that's amazing him. And then that'll do Jamie Kennedy. They did their best shit where will like pranking people check out, and then they just stopped. Yeah. Man. But Tom's blew up so crazy, so crazy, tolerating was on. I couldn't stuff. I couldn't even believe I'm green did Oprah. Wow. Oh, yes. Oprah was like we're like this. It was such a phenomenal. What was going on show was so big, he milked with his mouth put he puts slept mobile on his dad. All hair. It's and then hitting the bushes, he didn't just like let me fuck to people like my mommy and daddy, he put forget did people forget, Tom green, what happened to. But for now. Just all cancer had to take him came back and tried to do like a more serious show with Humperdinck. What's his guys name? But what people forgot how big it used to be the. Forgotten how what he is one of the man, what he did was. He did what we're all doing way before any of us. But it was when ban with was too expensive. He did. He had his own podcast. You didn't I did it his house. It was part of the inspiration for me doing one. Yeah. And, and even his cO I even talked to his company, there were based in Denver. I was in Denver doing the comedy works on talked to the company that was doing it for him. And I was seriously considering doing something like that. But the problem was that like the ban with his crazy expensive. He had co cables running from the desk all the way through his living room into a server room. He had a server room and it was crazy how much money's involved this. He's like fuck load of money. And he was like, I have to have all these people running it to that was Tom Green's, green. And so what essentially was was he decided to try to do a talk show host? I remember that Joe Rogan the fucking long-sleeve under the short sleeve, Joe Rogan. And I look for the torn jeans, I'm not committing to Hollywood. Giving up. He he that was all based on one crunch, switch. He had in his house. I know he just want and flip a switch, and the show went on and one live, so me and read van looked at it. And we're like, well, how much is involved in this, like, what would we have to do to do something like this? And then eventually it just led to that. And kunia Anthony cumia was that was a big thing. Yeah. He had that live from the compound in his basement. And then the way that Opie and Anthony ran their show was an inspiration to because it was just a hang out. And it was my favorite show to listen to. Yeah. Because just a bunch of guys hanging out talking. I was like, that's I that's what I wanna do for hours of them eat note meal. I remember they just eat oatmeal, then you'd be like oh, yeah. I was a big fan back then eat oatmeal. Oh, you tune in early on the north and they just be eating breakfast. Just going, Jim. We'll take a shit and be gone for thirty minutes because they didn't have any at the when it first. In fact, Dorte back in the day, they didn't have any advertisers. So they had to fill for hours of content, so they literally I mean everything went. Yeah. When they first started on Sirius XM, they had to fill for hours of content we. Yeah. No commercials. There's no commercials. That was the pin that crazy that serious said, hey, we don't have commercials you pay when you pay for it. And then he just started selling commercials. So, like, wait a minute, I fucking paying for this. Yeah. And you get commercials too. Yeah. As kiss how it got to get to paper. It's weird people at the helm of no, we're going to tell you. It's kate. He gets kicked up still no matter how I mean he's, he's locked up in a contract for, for Liz, I've son. Got to come up, he wants more money on. Sure. That's what Howard would do. But he makes up ask slow to money. Yeah. You know, there's no one even close, isn't it? Second places. He has just huge like he's a huge shareholder during that lawsuit if we can get over. Let's say the number one hundred million subscribers I get this gigantic bonus when they bought serious serious and some sixty plus another forty one hundred. So I get it because we acquired that pay me motherfucker. He don't know what happened with it, but well bless you, move right there. His. Respect you guys are done with beef. I just think it's retire. But. What is he did a thing for this? But he basically what he was saying was that the only reason that deal took place at all was because he was was it Sirius XM. He was serious serious. Right. Right. Right. So the only reason why series was kicking ass at all. Because a Howard fuck stern period. There was nothing on serious. Yeah. Wired wouldn't have acquired and also the, the model was like so, you know suspect at the time. Radio. Right. And go to people have to pay for it. They just turn on deserves it. No one else could have carried that. No one else he was radio. He and especially at that time during that transition to satellite. No one else would have got people to commit to having a fuck and satellite dish in your car. Maybe had those stupid fucking antennas that you put on your car to get to get serious. The wire went all the way through your course, gross this stupid thing would stick up like a pig tail out of the roof, your car, and then. Yeah. And how it would cut out for like turn any corner. And he's building in New York City bills. Yeah. Tunnels dead. The city to do exist it. Yeah. Whatever that, that company makes the only reason it's still is. The only reason. Yeah, for sure. I had XM and it was until Bennington Opie and Anthony showed up. It was painful, listen to yacht rock. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was cool though, nineties, rock three different channels of one hundred different channels. It was. Yeah, it was worth a dollar a year. Great war best doing he's been doing on stage lately. I to my storytelling show to recently that the same thing just talking about the good old days of fucking drug addiction down. He describes the city that you're like, oh my God. I want to be there. Would you go? What year? What first time in the city? I went I left on what they're six years, first time I've ever been there. Yeah. Oh you see Times Square when it was time square. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I, I was like what's up woman wearing a brawl just abroad? Abroa- whatever what they did at time square they turned Times Square into like Disney mall. It is this New York's version of like Disneyland disgusting. Yeah. And a nightmare whenever you're visiting. And also, you know, like when you're visiting your in a car home need to go to this, and all of a sudden you look up, and you're like, oh, we in fucking time like you're just driving through it. And we gotta get out of here, man. Right like the weird. It's just like it's too commercialized commercial reasons it feels like you're yeah. Everything that makes New York amazing is like gone guy joke about cofer meeting, and then like you walk in and people just looking up. And he's like, why is that? How? How? Who says that job gaffe again, funny? That's fun. Well, it's like it's, it's very Vegas esque. It's like walking down the strip. Yes, it is. It's like the lights and all help. There's no Eminem's. That's not where it was invented. So why isn't a giant Eminem store? And when you news to know what it was, like, like peep shows XXX everywhere, news. It was CD and weird. Yeah. But dangerous dangerous legitimately dangerous. You mean the word from seventies eighties? Right. That was the worst crime time late seventies into the to the mid to late eighties. I was hanging out in New York in the eighties when I was that was my pool hustling days, and I was doing a lot of gigs. I guess he wasn't the eighties. It was the nineties the early nineties because by ninety one was, I think the first time I've performed in New York, ninety one or maybe ninety him really. Yeah. Well, this is like you're just starting out, though, kind of Amsterdam billiards. What was Chelsea Chelsea billiards Chelsea, where we would go to Amsterdam Amsterdam's on the west side back, then it was on moved. That's why it was called Amsterdam. Sounds he was on the west side. It was an awesome place. I'm sorry. That's why I became friends with Dom era played pool with him in ninety four at Amsterdam. Billiards I didn't know played like when I when Mito PU player a comic actually plays Dom could play he called me today. I can't wait. I'm bringing back I love him so much. But New York was a different place. Man, I was around a lot of these like weirdo. Homeless Griffin type characters a lot of dudes. We get arrested for doing three card Monty like the pool all the best education of like street culture, like people who live on the street. I mean home people, people were basically homeless, like sometimes it's here, they're like my friend, Johnny was always, like, staying people's stated my house for sometimes he would stay in these weird little hostels and flop-houses in New York and places that didn't have a roof like you have walls, but they'll be like no route everybody could hear every remember like the as a kid in that era the perception, that you had of New York is like this is nothing but crime. Right. They as dangerous, you're not allow Juliani you know, clamp down on all that shit. I remember when I moved, and I found a place came back to get my stuff and I told. Neal Brennan has like I don't think they have bars in my back window, a need that he goes, I'll do read the crime stats. It's a different city though. It's not that city anymore. Yeah. Cd ninety seven I was. I, I mean I don't remember any crime. What's although I did get taken three card Monty a number of times. But that enforce you anytime I saw three Karmani. You're not, you know, my read, I'm like fucking got this money. Put money down Larry's high so that and they used this game where they had a, a nail and a piece of board and yet hammer and you had three shots get the nail in that. They had that in Thailand. Dude, I did over every fucking time. There was so many so harshness. There's so many hustlers, right back in those days. New York people trying to get off some kind of scam. Yeah. I've been scammed by driver in New York. How what like this was not even that long ago? I mean, there's probably like, seven eight years, where no you get in the cab, and you're like, you know if you don't live there. But you kind of know like the layout you just like, basically, I want to go up, you know, twenty blocks this way. Right. And the guy just goes across town starts going up like the opposite highway from where we were. I'm like, which what are we doing? Exactly does you could track ourself on your phone. Just looking at it. Like, what are we doing? He's like, going up to the I go couldn't you've just gone up that avenue that we were on. And he was like, I don't know. What's going on, man? This is fucking outrageous. And then we pull up I see like the meter going going. I'm like this is crazy. That was supposed to be a, a ten minute drive has taken forty minutes. He goes just pay me what you've ever you want to pay me what? Yeah. And I go because he didn't want to get caught. Yeah. I go to that. So I go like the thing said like sixty eight dollars. And I was like, here's twenty bucks. He's like, that's it. We want to pay, but I to pay. So. I'll see man. Yeah. Yeah, because he's scared. Yeah. Yeah. I John is there a once in Jerusalem? When I got there, I took a I was like take me to Brock, and it was, I didn't realize I was three blocks over. He told me that right there. But they took me around the city, then let me on. I know a lot of go home afterwards. I look what here. Right here. I thought you find out on my way on that cab. Right. Because I started texting people at the next place it was like I was just leaving here. And I'm going to see you should I be on fucking. Massport? Like no. So you didn't speak Spanish in that moment. He was a rush from I would've taken I would've taken, I would have gone right to Spanish kind of a language. It makes me feel powerful Nigerian pocketed in, in Florence and I went into Russian everything every word I knew in Russia yelled at the guy, and he ran, because he was like, well, he's Russians or fucking animals yelled out, America, fucking traitor city America, and take your fucking shirt off and said, I'm the machine and so run after the fucker one. He's scared more scared of you that you. Okay. Should write that down. Write that down. You should write that whole thing down about you talking about on the radio this hilarious. And then, because the audience is going to be like, so wait, what do you do then you pull out coat and you do a bunch? And then he start making no sense. And then blood comes out your nose. It's an awesome show. You do that you want. If you don't want to cook that night, you take your high blood pressure medication on stage. Yeah, I would. I would love to start growing cocoa plants the chew the leaves, you can grow here, suitable, you can get there. If you can make you could organize a closet with heat lamps and shit. Do you think? Yeah. For sure. Just have just like chew a little bit for John. It's find out how many people are growing their own CoCo lease in the United States, want to not, why wouldn't you would love to so much of it. Those cocaine prove leaves just want bears. Love, Aubrey, Marcus. Chris. Chew those leaves. It's actually bad for you at all right? And the team coca teas. Grave had that. Yeah. That'll Seattle, your nausea. You know specially get like seriously. Everyone starts drinking sign me up. It's great crazy. Everybody. Just thinks this one thing is the process. Chemical is fucking version that Scarface and how many people died because cocaine. Oh my Lord. How many murders is there another drug on the planet that is inspired more murders cocaine? Right. I would love to know murders versus number of dick sucked for it. That'd be way more. Man got murdered every time they did coke. They don't but a lot of people get their Dixon. Like it might not be everybody. But it's like thirty percent. So. Girls can't afford coke to their young partying. They're out and some fucking guy comes along with fat, Tracy Morgan light gold chain. That's how good coke is though. Yeah. That's how good it is. Right. That, that people are like, for sure. I'll just blow this stranger. So would get coke that didn't do coke? They'd get coach. They have coke for those four women of girls wanna co because some girls when they want coke, I am calling somebody and I'm gonna get some fucking number leave here. Hold on. Coke. Orgy going on. Some of girls like, oh, I know my blowjobs were stuff. So what can I get out of it? What am I looking for my brother? Lots that he went to Woodstock to, you know, like what twenty years ago, whatever it was. And he said, this guy got one of his friends got a long. This orthodox Jew, along with a bunch of food later took forever to get concessions. She goes, look, my way to align, I'll blow you for that. Let's do it. Let's do it sucked. Dick for food food. That's like chips little extra protein. We had. B real from cypress hill. He was showing us the footage of him onstage crowd surfing. He was on stage in front of in Woodstock half a million people in the fucking crowd, and then and then goes out into the crowd crowds. And they stole a sneakers, they took a sneakers and both people, both left and the rights nigger. They came to his one of shows, and he signed it in the future. Got your shoe from was dock re-sign. He signed that's crazy. It's the video of him on stage in front of half a million people. It is insane love how they the house and have not wavered at all from their day, one, not this shit all day. Like if you open their Instagram right now. It's just like check it out in thirty years, deepens. They don't fuck around Cyprus hills, Instagram. Half of is we'd video with, like Cyprus. Oh music in the background. Video people doing wax, and dabs and Bong heads with Cyprus and the first album so good. So good. They get high the way we get high. I know they do I went with them. They may not. But I'm saying like, are they out of it? Now man look. He's fine. I did. He's got the show called the smoke box car. Get the car, by the way. Can I just say an old Chinese barbecue that wasn't even there are you serious? Another dimension. Yeah. See, I just have a picture. And it looked like you were. Smoke so much before we ever got in the car. I was like, I can't believe we're gonna keep going. He's like totally normal. Oh, is normal could be professional then dog just fine. That's not me Puzo. Yeah, I could definitely definitely probably like I was, I was trying to think of like the celebrity I could go beer. Beer, four and then really hurt them. Yeah. Most of them most post below post Malone taken down to the Mark. Shar. Who do you think young guy was scribbled on his face Julie's? He's an awesome. He's a great of fucking musician. Yeah. It's awesome. His tattoos are questionable. They're odd win. Is. Really fucking take it down. Yeah. I mean like you heavily. And I think if you now thought about this a lot, if I go for their cocktail, and I gotta match them cocktail cocktail. I can keep pace with Stanhope. That's a big one. Keep interest in San doesn't drink as much as everyone thinks he just drinks every day a lot like, yeah, but he's not like he's not like. Right. A lot of light. Beer, San Jose, oddly enough. A lot healthier than I think people, assume Ron white would be a tough one. Oh, yeah. Does he gets fucked up every night of the week? That's possible every night of the week every every every night, every night, it's all know how to do, but he's a looks like a million dollars. He's a happy man. I'll tell you that happy looks great. Yeah. It's thirty eight years old. We're brought here for a reason, not just to talk shit. We're trying to figure out. How to do so rock over this year. What are they gonna just about? I will already have the answer. And I think it's early for me to say it now. So I'll wait till the end. Sound thought I have. I know exactly what we're doing. It's so hard is happening over hardest. We're, we're going to go to over Tom's got an aggressive schedule coffee. Okay. Really do sobriety. Coffee. Harder. No, no booze. No alcohol's easing. No water also. A mile stimulant. I think it's cheating no coffee. I like coffee, I like no cropping. No coffee. Wait, we, you can only drink water the whole month. She no other drink. I'm fucking in. No other sparks water. Would you would you? Carbonated water. That works. I like Joe ramping up. Ready to go to war. Wait only water and carbonated water. Yep. I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. Oh, so no coffee. So what you have milk in your coffee. Wow. Yeah. We should carnivore diet all month, not to, but revised dates. All right. Relax. Why not? Because. I'm willing to negotiate. I'm only going to go with what I think our talent should be for what you think are restriction should be. What do you think the challenge should be have idea but challenge obey? All right. It's yours is about health, right? Yes. Yeah. It's not what you want to be. I think it should be if mental health is, is a legit part of health, you should give up, your fucking dopamine, fucking addictions, and cell phones. What are your cell phones or your social media for a month? I get your. I get why you wouldn't do it, 'cause your career you can Email your fucking ladies to Puckett Poche it for you. Ladies. Yeah. I know. Join it. I think you have a good point with this. I'd do I really didn't think about us, sometimes when I when I feel like I've been on, like a flight or in a hotel room, and I think I've been look at my phone for like three gone out. Yeah, yeah. It's just I just think it takes the, the, the connective tissue away from this challenge to the people that enjoy watching this challenge. I think a lot of people enjoy will be up. That will be a problem. Joining rock, still it. And then November first everyone's like oh yeah. You guys did, so rock Tober forgot about that. I could get each of you. And I'll tell no. I understand I'm not like Joe who says, do what I do. And then I'll just fuck and have an easy time. I will go with no cell phones. We'll do beyond what I already. Okay. Let's let's let's do what you guys did. To yoga every down. Join us. That was him saying, it wasn't a challenge in that, like no contest. If it was, I had to do yoga, the most guys. All right. Right, right. Right. That's it. That's it. Maybe it's the most ninety minute yoga class. The most elks war kills the most alcs and can reverse fear them to hear his mental health. It's a good point. We definitely look at these things also get legit. Real camera. If you want it film stuff. Give it to your fucking assistance. So you could figure this out post, whatever you need to be. How about this? How about this? We run the most miles in a month. Track. It track. Let me just go for baseline right now. How many miles do you run right now? It's up there man. Okay. What about you? Has to be real running. I wanted real on the I don't want that bullshit on a fucking treadmill shoes with the bluetooth capability in them. Yeah, we'll wear the shoes. So we're we're going to run for miles. Let's fair already doing running hills man. Oh many. How many? Go for a ride now. It's no more than an hour, hour and fifteen minutes. Save save save a marathon, right there. No uphill hills. He's probably running six miles. Run steep shit. It's more, like it's, it's more sprinting. It's like there's a lot of Playa metrics. It's more like that. Like you're not just flat running at a steady pace. Do you sprint run out my dog to? I'm trying to make it hard pretend things to chase a man play games. Yeah, that's nice pretend to have to get the top everyone dies. Yeah, you're good. Give me a hint of that, bring whatever you got in your brain gives me a little bit when I work out, you don't want it. Ramps up ramps up this. Listen crazy. We were going guys, we were working at like six seven hours, a day is terrible man. But the whole time I was like I do zero working out. So this is Jack. Great. Well, we were like three weeks of the month and you were here we did a podcast together and use my fucking rower you did an hour on the rower and you were ripped you have a six pack look at this motherfucker was pretty impressive. An hour on the rower is real work. That's real work. You're not going to not get second or not gonna go last. Here's what I here's what, here's what I'm hearing Ari wants to challenge that excels at get it. No. But you're off your and your complaint about Joe is that he keeps logging in things that he is good at. So I will take care of this sisters, gentlemen. You ready? This year. So Brock Tober, physical challenge presenting it like a potential candidate. It's like apple. Can be good. Hip hop. Dance. Joe? Auto. Hear me out spin. Let me let me solve say, okay. We each get a choreographer, and we work dance classes as much as we can dance. Classes are pretty aggressive leave it to the audience vote here. Listen, hear me out when I like that idea. We can do that. Now, hear me out starting first Tober doing a pitch. You make them think it was their idea. Granted. Over at that belt. You never getting that. Hold on. Hold on. Hear me guys. Hear me out everyone. Listen to me. Issue. Putting the belt. Oh, okay. All right. I haven't even touched this thing since October. It me with any sort of about man dance classes to get our skill set up. We each worked with a choreographer to create our own dance to the exact same song. At the end the end at the end, by the way, I'm selling this, that the room threading jeans. The back at the bell. At the end of the art temp melts onto. At the end of the month. Come November, first, we eat submit are one minute. Hip hop dance. Choreographer Carrara feed video and the fans vote on who the winner of sobre ctober is gentlemen. I would like to hear your Buttle starting with Tom Suguira. I gotta tell you. Washing this rebuttal. Okay, polls. And he put you mentioned that. Here's what I'll tell you. What I like about it easy to say. What I don't like about anything that comes out of your mouth. Yeah. So what I don't like about it or what I do like about it is that no one's great at it. I do like tread. It is a workout because those, those dancers are unbelievable. Right now. I Joe seconds it's not even close. What are you talking about? It's definitely me. What I'm way better dancer than you guys out of your mind, just because you doesn't mean you're fine. Go. Do you know but not better than you guys? First of all, I would bucket bid. That this can do a lot of crazy shit with my body. You guys can't do. That's true. But I'm saying rhythm to them you have rhythm. Yes. All right. Hold on. You have rhythm. I know I do. I'm fucking phenomenal at dancing. Okay. But no you get to close it down. Is that nobody excels? I mean, I always in better than you, but nobody sells so I like the idea of working at something that, you know, no one's great at and dancing. Movie I was in the keeper. Yeah, I took dance classes. All right. Dens my ass off bitch. I love movies, make it seem normal that that guy to get back girl. I know. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Legitimately. I mean, I'm not good or any, this is hip hop dance we're talking looking his face. Dance. Come on son. Pretty good, actually. Took fucking death lessons. Do it for weeks dance with Nikki Glaser, Leslie Bibb. She's from Talladega nights. Yeah. She's great. He's great. Very, very funny person to, and I think done deal seventy. So here's the last thing that is great. Okay. So everybody gets to work at it. Nobody excels too much at it. I think it's funny that we're comics, and we get look silly doing something. I did not look, great at it, and I'm on board with I think it's fun that people that watched that or get really into it would have a say in it. I I'm the only one of the three of us just not obese so it would look at least silly for me doing Joe. Joe medically obese. I think. About the BMI son. Might be is off the truth. You're saying that you are into it or not say, I would look the lease silly just in terms of that. But you guys I get why you look silly just moving at all. We also need. No, I'm not. I'm not a fucking yourself. Always always breaking breakers before you break ankle, elbows, breaking stuff. That's skews super fuck invulnerable. I am. It's good point injury. What's injury? No, no, no dance. Classes are intense. Do you really think you the current best answer easily? I think. Bar slows down the most out of all of us. I agree. And so the dance concert up we get each ourselves choreographers. We create our own dance to the executive types up. Wait wait for me to talk about this, okay? But the amount of Molly, I would have to do to enjoy that dancing, but he can't be sober. But you can't remember I that we. The dance party chanting over. So bor. Dancing stover? Here's here's problems. With number one. It's subjective. You can't have something subjective. He can't the only thing Tom dance. Better ROY think or dance better can have a bunch of morons vote for break this down finish up. I'm gonna right. What if what if what if the dance pros got together? That's what I was professional sweat. Well, yeah there. They like Burt better. They like me better. You don't want that judges. Sports. Another. They literally go to jail. But so we have to agree. No, Brian, maybe bribe judges now. No nothing subjective. We gotta grind dances. We gotta make pot there, make it super uncomfortable. Do you wanna make pretty uncomfortable classes? All right. Eleven board teen dance, dance classes, hip hop. This something about the fitness challenges that are more exciting to me because Dame fitness all the time. I'll do something you guys don't do fitness challenge. You guys don't do that. I don't do rather. Right. Okay. That's you're trying to say that. I don't ever do. All right. Bikes. I'm gonna go fuck. Likes likes everywhere store, accessible, ride bikes Thomson, Europe, ride a bike. Go to your right. I mean Europe in October, for those countries scheduled in Australia, sorta cancel yet. It's coming up. When you cancel it close canceled, I've cancelled before. So the just once I think it was Dwight couple times it was sick. Australia, the only time it's been failure opening for you. You have see ticket also another time. I did the Melbourne festival. Yeah. I'm in Auckland June to take this Sydney twentieth. When I'll be in Columbus. I know there's a bunch of people that are we were we're. We, we want to be able to vote. No one stealing this, you're gonna have to earn this motherfucker. So you say this, you're thinking, hip hop. This is mine. So this. Yeah. I like it. I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep this this month the flaw. He's saying is that there's not like a clear. Right. That it's yeah. You can't leave the judges get the fuck outta here. That's rule. Number one, for fighting never leave in the hands of the judges. Okay. It's not rule. Number one. It's probably like real number. Yeah. It's down there. I. For. Smile celebrities in the audience car don't eat like I would love to. I would love to see day one. The judge. Leave it to the judges, I need. Oh my God. That's funny. I was really behind your dance. It would be tough. I do have a gym for you. Homes, a place right? Near by me. Joe joe. I think you're overestimating your Dan skills. Hip hop dance dance kills hold. Learn them. Would it be amount of time is? Body better. I'll learn them how to move your body better for sure. You don't move my body better than you. Move yours, do you get secure? Even save. Crazy for you to say that. Physical, dexterity your physical. They're talking about Joe. If I got through that challenge, and you didn't prepared you came in last like you did with this last one. We put a sock in a fucking with a lock in it like a bike lock and beat your ass punishment for this. I'm with punishment. That's a good idea. Bario full metal jacket real. Code rate, you out with a bar soap and a sock. And I think that even Matthew Modine gun in on this number. Yeah he did. That's right. Yeah. Chilly, felt bad about behind the real thing. So you don't know what's real. Hip hop. Challenge little work. If you could see us going through all these fucking things, and the. Believe it. Like you motherfucker you're talking shit the whole month. Yeah. Talking shit, the whole month came in last. That's my game plan. That's a good point of saying, next challenge, no sand. Bass. Fuck in October fell apart. Did I fell apart when ours started posting these John? He was on the bike for four hours. Like, why, why fuck my head up? Tom got bad Jeff. We started. We start up two hundred points, a good day. It was like it was like that scene in big when, when love, it's telling what's like on sold on a look that. We're all doing. Crazy. Anybody was gonna take how much we hated each other to really drive us to not be well, I don't know how you look at it. But I love you guys. It was a fun competition. Fuck ari. I was the most amount of points. You ever put in a day, my biggest point day was we went you rent thirteen mile broken up now. I mean like just going in the hills and, you know, just kept a brand like to another city came back. Yeah. Thirteen fucking miles, and that was after he was sick for a week. Cool took photos. Sandbagged us why did you take the foot off the gas pedal? We should've waited till he was gonna be for sure. Because Tom was like I'm sick. I'm like Thomson last. I don't have to worry. I'm not last oh, that what you were worried about 'cause I was like I was I was competing with Tom, and I were neck and neck. Are he was a fucking and we'd just post numbers in the middle of the night? You'd go to two-thirds in start like that. I posted in my gym. Blink fitness would allow me to work out twenty four hours a day. So I'd get off fucking right? Fucking go work out. Three. My head up man. You wake up. Forgive me late spots. It's all this. Tricky right. Gameplay. But here's what I apply. Realize you woke up like what? Yeah. I'm not in. I this like this. Here's what I should do a dance off. Anyway. Well, he does have that incredible physical, dexterity would need a way for judge decide. But that's not about working out though. Right. Hip hop, dancing. No, hip hop dancing. If you're going to get good you're going to be dancing every single day. Doc. Like that. Was a good von his. About everything. So show me a tweet. I made recently ever go on, like, how do we get from Burke? Cameron marathon to all gonna go straight edge for a month. What the fuck happened? Got from run a marathon. He couldn't do it faster than your dad did. Suddenly were all this holocaust survivor, and then he was, but he was also like run marathons tomorrow. Missile, I technically did technically I did blow the doors off. You guys you really amazed. But I think the real test was that Tom was going to try to roller skate, a marathon fast. But he didn't take an account going up hill or the fact that he has never roller skated. Yeah. But that's easy to learn for fun. What do you think would have happened on the roller skating, part of it after running that marathon? Yeah. Crushed you probably would've beat me. Yeah. It was a flat. You don't know hold on LA marathon was uphill downtown. But once you got past the store, you'd have been hauling fucking down, low Sienna would never caught from the from seller to nobody. Yeah. Couple rollers Josh. And they know they said like your feet are going to you're going to be in rough. I can. Blow out his Catt, hold on. This lightly. We're, we're warriors for people that have been doing it for years. And also what does that the roller derby people? They were like, yeah, you gotta be careful. Just think about skiing for five hours, if you had a stall. Great. That would be a ski for five hours straight without going up lift hills going to lift up the hills. If you just skied, oh, we only on your feet for five hours. Bet you it'd be hurting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway. It's muscles are all sore. My feet are always hurting after a day skiing. Jesus. No. It would have been fucked up fucked up. You see me crash? 'but. No. Yeah. I did I did. And I pulled up. And you're like all I don't think it's broken. Put it put a pin in it. You. We have the big now it's down to this now. Yup. Pin in there. Like a metal piece broke off. I have some sort of pin what's good about that? Give one more reason to fuck with the people at TSA. You're going to fucking like how come something's going off to everything semaines like anything you're talking to me. The second. What about belt the Secta me? And what, what do you think it's like I had my dick cut and you're fucking stupid thing that you're the head of this company decided we need to buy it points out that I got a sesame really does it. No. You out of a sector because it's a little inconsistent hard thing in their peanut. You wanna feel it. No choice interesting. So it's calcified rock that. Yeah. Dickel Saddam fucking terrorist threat to him. I want to ask you one thing about your challenge, you say, no, we're just wanted. But, like, that's there's not enough of it has to be a second part of that. Right. For the month. What do you mean? Yes, there's nothing physical yet. Good point. I mean like is there would be dot would we would need a second part because that is just a mental problem with would guys. I'm telling you, you're not gonna do it. I know how dick did yard you're never gonna graded us dancing. It would make your lives. You'd be happier. And you wouldn't know why I've been off Twitter pretty much and it's exponentially hopper Twitty's Twitter. Just makes me sad and angry reading people fighting is fun. Can I show you something I'm for me? I won't do anything, but just unlocking to me. I swear, I won't do anything bad. You have about her. Okay. Right. Is on storm? Terrified with gave you the note I'm going to no time usage scream. It's be up there. Okay. So just bro. Yeah. Okay. So today of your life, you have a family of two kids started morning radio at five in the morning, until eleven hold that thought. So while you're on morning radio. You're not using it. No, I was using entirely to look up who was talking to where it was at while you're on there. Yeah, you're not doing it. Okay. What time is it right now? It's four twenty six. Yeah. Three hours and nine minutes on sorry. Three above average today. Yeah. Today was press. The body shots world tour last seven days starts September November twenty third. I'll be an Auckland. You actually surprised me, thirty minutes a day, I don't fuck with Instagram, a lot is. I don't hear. Yeah. It's our eighteen minutes. Yeah, I fucked with Instagram a lot. That's it. What do you do? I that's it. I don't I don't touch Twitter kind of stay away from everything years now. How bad is it? Today's not that bad screen time for the week. Are there totally? I'm totally off my phone. You don't touch all over court stuff and post it. But I don't read comments stuff that could fuck your head up Twitter can be aggressive. Sometimes I wouldn't it. Great used to be how do that on jokes. Yeah, I can't I do my whole thing's about I only used stuff to promote toward. That's it really sorta. It's like like Aw. Our of social networking. It says, yeah. Seven days, seventy seven day. Okay. Let's get more cocktails down this. I am pretty chicken. How are we gonna fucking switch him over to fucking hip hop dance? Slowly slowly, it starts with me letter a lot how much how much you right now. How long? Way way way. But let me preemptively say I was on a bus for the last seven days. Definitely, I'm saying not home, not home. We're checking our amount of usage on online on our heads. Right now down a bus, but this time could be spent reading or doing something today. No thirty minutes, I think is pretty low. How Tom six hours thirty four minutes a day? On a bus. I'm on a but. Get your board, but there's a far better way to spend your time. You're right. Here's the but you have to kind of look at it like this to sitting on this bus with fucking thousand movies, you can choose from. And I do this all the time where I roll through like, I'm gonna watch a movie which is like a normal thing to kill an hour and a half two hours. And I'm like, none of these interest me, I'm gonna spend that time doing this, right. Looking at emails looking at social media looking at YouTube videos, it's if I'm saying that you could knock off easily hours. Yeah. And there'd be two hours spent just mindlessly staring at something else, or you wouldn't be having record for writing or thinking, that's true. Or but you're saying that none of that occurred. We're learning hip hop dance. No oxygen. I will say this when you're bored, and you're looking at a window on a tour bus eventually, not the first time minutes, but in the maybe ten minute thirty minute, forty your minds like Faulk. We're so bored. And you start writing bit ideas. It's true. True. And you're just not even thinking about those times because you're on there. That's true. It's one hundred percent. True. Wait. So what yours eight minutes, I would have to get my what yours is. Yeah, taking up is surprisingly high because he uses his when he's not late your seven. Oh, I've ninety seven day was thirty minutes today was three hours and a half to seven day was thirty average thirty minutes today. Seconds over. Second. Phone used the search parties screen mathematics. Good top. You're absolutely right. That three today. All you have to only juice out. The brandon. Thirty minutes out a fuck. Is that possible? Two hours and six minutes did. That's that's too much. Today. What is it? No. Did you do what's your fucking? I love the one guy that doesn't have an high phones walking you through your iphone. Five thousand thirty minutes four hundred fifty one minutes a day. Wow. So what four hours fifty one minutes of your day. You're sixteen hour waking day. Joe's defense not a bit. Like he's got a new people all the time. And I'm sure there's times he's like tell me about that guy dot dot dot okay? I keep hearing in my defense and my defense, but I'm never offense where my that's too much. It is too much. You do do some work on your phone, but more more than that. You fuck off. I have every note transcribed in my phone all my notes from my writing tops. All my phone all my sets productivity on their what using time on won't be. It's not like it's going to be four hours. Thirty five minutes of productivity and twenty minutes of fucking off. No, no. Lot of it is also watching stuff. They wanna have fun. To safari and let's take let's play a game. I can go. Hey, tell me about dot dot dot what you Google earlier. Fucking game. Gama computer, computer, give me your phone. Tom commuter now. That's. Awhile. A lot of time when you look at it tour hours, a lot of waking time spent looking at a screen instead of your surroundings. What is last things I driving part of that. You can't you're not using your fucking. It's me and it's you, and then it's just important. How much do they anal scenes? You beat enough every day. No. I just started again. Interesting texting time off. I took some time off. I was a hard time with it, and now his phone. This is fun. Call you back. Laptop that has a CD dry. That's the right you too. Bye. Honestly. Because they keyboard. Yeah. All the ones the ones that got now fucking or the problem with that you can't do the same things on Instagram. We can't post stuff from your fucking computer at the Senate to my lady you can't post it for an ipad. Yes, he probably could. I can't count. Areas. Smart. Smart does not make for a great sobre ctober challenge, in my opinion, just to watch will do nothing is not an you'll still get this. He's saying that it would still get posted everything posted. Now a good a camera legit like digital strength of this challenge. Is that enjoy like following along of what we're doing? It's not our normal thing Rogan clearly, the, the working out. So he doesn't have to change life that much. All you do promote. Would be the worst for you to not have where you already doing is promoting nonstop. Oh, yes. His hip hop, dancing. Did you knock something over? So then what combat what father? So we've got we have we switched kids. How do you handle this? What what do you do? How do you handle this? How do we do say? What I didn't hear you. I mean what, what are those pronouns? I mean I'm saying like. I like the idea of some sort of social media challenge, like staying off social media something. That's the thing we were missing the second one hundred percent. You're you're dead on dead on with that, but and go fuck himself. This hip hop, dancing ship. So joe. Hip hop dance place. Right near my apartment that I could go to all the time. I told you you're in your do you think so hip hop? Dance to be a good one. I, I think let's put a pin, and I think for okay put a pendant. Dependent. That would be at some level of acceptable. We'd have to get Jetson. His job is nothing judges judges and go fuck themselves. We want real hard numbers. Can't have a bad decision that causes a riot amongst our fans. Got the Bill, even if we don't do this. There's something so real about how good you, you said, you're better mover. Than him that I would love to see, I feel like part of the month, you have to do something with that, you know what I mean? I think the, the audience would love it. Lot. It makes sense. It's gotta be here's the deal. This just put parameters on where sober tour is going to be taking place. Thomas touring through Europe in law for part of the. How many days ten days don't cripple? You're gonna get sick to do. What fitness I'm Cardi laying down. Forget about any fitness challenge son ten days in Europe all that travelling with weird European diseases. That's how they wiped out most of your people. Yeah. Pine there puts wiped out your people. Hancock says that at one point on the Amazon jungle had twenty million people in thriving civilizations beautiful cities and that the Europeans dirty diseases came over and wiped everybody out. It's actually your parents. Dad was one of those Sandler's value brought away from a virus. True dirty bugs, your mom was down washing laundry, next to it came in alligator came up pussy. Hey, tell me this. The creek in the caves legions gangs are not doing what the fuck. They're not doing the show the creek and the cave anymore. First of all, you guys, coming to me on this is worse than Ainsley and being coming to you about comedy store. Low. I think it's directly related. Yeah. Creek in the cave. But that's why. No, they were trying to do to the creek in the and the lady freaked out, right? She buckled under pressure. That's not why they're moving. They're already gonna move it already gonna move it. There's new was opening up though. They'll use this excuse maybe people will say, that's the reason to move it start from the beginning for someone who doesn't know what you're talking. Books, legion skanks who they are. Of course. Louis right Lewis. Yeah. And. And Dave Smith. And they they're hardcore guys except when the puck kinda plus out. But like. Guys for the most part. And so they booked their they bits dot on the I don't understand that we just had a conversation. That's fucking. Imagine jackass in the heyday of jackass, and they're all sitting here politely, not trying to fucking shave their heads in front. It's like come on, obviously, they need a second chance on this. Not now I wouldn't give expectations come up and do something crazy ahead of time with you. Nice conversation. To you. Milo Yiannopoulos and Milo said they cut out, so now ours running with the narrative. Listen. So they put my low, we have this guy who's been fucking whatever. And then and then everyone started going doing the thing with the attack the venue. If you have a problem, not enough that they can miss analyze the person or say, I want nothing to do with that guy. Then if you put him up, then you're the issue, a woman, who's gave birth to tons of fucking, great L A, and fucking black performers. She's an issue because she's not stopping performance happening, and then soon will be like, if you perform at that venue, then you're an asshole. Right. Right. No, it's nonsense. Hey, what's the lesbian gay bisexual lions? Oh, they have a lot more since I left college. But that's what I was told. The problem is, when you look at LGBT which is like the accepted use of those letters. In the end, we were like, oh, a is now a sexual and tailored as a great joke. Where it's like they're included because the reality is the sexual hate the other ones. Like you're discussing. I don't care what sector having lesbians. You're not really excited about transgender men or transgender women rather troopers there's that there's turfs you know, trans exclusionary radical feminist. No, I don't know busy. Fuck it living my life, fucking dominate dominate dominate didn't know you're trying to wait, can you fill me in more on this though? So tell me about domino. Not leave dominating write that down. But there was a big uproar comedian started trying to show how they were woken up, and they're like, I don't think you should do it. Quipping were very publicly quit putting Becca in this position. I was going to be in. Tell someone is a fucking white Knight virtue, signaller when they don't go to you say, hey, Tom, the phone don't do this, but I get I might have your number. So if I'm tweeting at you all just right at Thomson Gora. Don't do this. If I really wanna virtuous signal. I'll go dot at Tom score. Hey, at Thomson gore. Not just me and your followers. Everybody anytime. Anybody sees if you're listening. You see somebody not start with the act that is them virtuous, signaling on purpose and comics in this. They're saying something positive. They just wanted to. Yeah. That's right. Good point. Like, hey, everybody come see, you know, you don't wanna say Steve fear. I love you. Netflix special. Yeah. Ju our. Yeah, it's great. It's great our everyone. I saw some of. Your buddy Milo. He's going to appear on the show. All these all these people are saying, I will never go to the creek against put unbelievable pressure on her. They call a Nazi and club owner Jewish and he's also married to a gay man. Who's yeah. Who's black Russia's? His ass opens. So wait a minute. What ends up happening so they go we're not gonna have? Okay. So they said, we're doing this. We're not talking they started going to war with these fucking, virtuous signal comics. Okay. And then at some point Rebecca, I talked to her. This is not my thing. I don't even wanna do it. And I'm Becca what you do is you stand by your comics. And so you let them do whatever they want obviously, I've been on the me have been the wrong. I've had venues cancel me. Yeah. Because if shit like this, so you don't want to be involved. Then models, people said, okay as you put out the, the time and date of where I'm going to I, I can't go anymore, so they moved it, so they moved it. And so did it still did it somewhere else? We did it. Okay. Shout out to her for not caving, then. Yeah. Consider names, the creek and the cave. Yeah. Out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it's it's, it's all. Thing. But the part with you a Milo porn it was, it was pretty funny. The next time somebody calls, Milo, and Nazi, and me and Nazi sympathizer this hits my face. Maybe I'm just weird because I just saw my dad speak at the memorial. But like if you can tell me the people who took his father, and so you need to say goodbye to your son. And so you gotta take care of the family down. Watch the rest of your family fucking disappear death is the same as that political analyst. I'm gonna slap you, you should. Yeah. I should I it's, it's so it's so so auditory offensive in a way that I'm not okay with it. So you can say that away from me. But if you say to me, I'm going to there's a lot of should that were saying that is not enough of those guys against smacked mackinaw. Jason delirious, delirious completely ridiculous. It's insane. It was crazy. Provocateur. He fucks with people. He pushes buttons. And he does so in the age of the internet. Yeah, he's great troll. The thing that they got him on, which is where it all got really weird was essentially him saying that it should be okay. What happened to him when he was molested that he was abused sexually molested by priests? And this priest he you know, he would joke around and say that he was the one who pursued the priest that he was trust me. I was the predator. Like, that's how he said he's hilarious. And that's what got him. It was talking about that on my show. And then talking about it on this other show, wasn't it? The amazing, atheist show was right. The put his anybody who says, like you shouldn't be allowed to put that person can't be heard anymore. That's what you're saying. But that's what it was. But it was really just as harsh critiques of liberals and feminists that were so biting. And then. He actually did a podcast with Jordan Peterson recently we talked about the the molestation. I didn't see it but from Jordan's explanation. It's like he's understanding now as he's getting older that, yeah. He was a victim of this thing. And he was making it less. Yeah. He was giving this guy like like a pass that he did it damn almost. Yeah. The creek cave is a great place for you on comics, New York, she's always, like I hear nothing but great. Nothing. But great fun. I saw it's, it's like they bring together, young comics, and like, give them places. When no one's it's, it's it is with the comedy store was if you take away the Sonics the twelve plus year. How many seats is it? Eighty on top and fifteen twenty in the bottom peas. I walked in, I was in my impression of this place in one time I walked in skank fest, and I walked past Ari throwing piss on somebody. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I walked downstairs to a room full of people with their shirts off. Chanting. Do you remember that Ari? Did you shit Tupperware? Yeah. We opened Tupperware. Shit in a Tupperware and opened it up in the room. Doc. Person. Outside. Iran. Smell different down the street, I'm starting to gag just and these guys were offended by Milo. It wasn't into it. And so, whatever happened happened. It was a pile of bit. Oh my gosh. Sure. Exactly. Sometimes shit. It's most awful and you realize shit so much, it's broken water rising. He out of the fucking toilet bowl. You know, it's like the Kona coast. Smell. Like, why is it smell so bad human human shit so bad? My dog shit doesn't smell nearly as bad not even nearly as bad as people that. Yeah. People smells like, hey, crime dog shit once it gets in between your toes, smells worse. That dogs aren't drinking. That's what it is not drinking. Whisky. Eating subway. On dog hydration. Waterman should good guys on a dog has a new product problem with dogs. Shit dehydrate dog nearly as bad. Nothing. Human ship is so nasty man, you walk in, like in a city. Shit. And then. Good smell it. It's like a fucking ninety percent chance percent. Hundred percent to told me in Hong Kong. Listen, if you see hold on not every mainlander from mainland China shits in malls. But if you shitting them all that's mainlander. Yeah. Really disgust shit. Shit maze. Chinese people to sit in the mall like the bathroom. So the ground case you walk through the mall and you see human shit. Yeah. They don't know how to be Chinese, doors, underrated towards to the world. Chinese stores are the worst tourists that were there say the Trump, we're gonna hold on tours back all the fuck travelers like please. They are so they just some folks who live in rural China's. Do. Children. You've been there. These shorts is wide shorts with a cut down the middle. When you open stand up comes together when you squat so you don't have to fuck in lifter shorts out it comes out and then just shit away shit whether walking ten year olds shorts. How do I get those pants for Sunday's? What is this? Why kids keep crapping in public in Chinese culture? Shit, and you can find online, these true. Right-lane Bert with the fuck and common sense do gotten. Getting. Put up signs acid Chinese tourists. Poop on the grounds. All my God. Roll down that for stores Chinese far foreign away. Number one, like fucking Richard Pryor Chinese replace Americans as the worst tourists in the world. We never were there obnoxious. Oh my God. This is terrible article. Yeah. Although, although have you ever been shit in public apparently? Oh my God. This is vice cave ice cave is. But we're we're reading this folks. If you hear those words, I have not said that I'm reading something off of a the title. All if you're listening, it's already did say everything. I just. The worst tours next say this Israel Russians tied why Israel. Okay. About I'm that. I'm missing giants. The bogans first garbage serious fuck inflicting them into the world like go learn on their turf. Wow. Bogans are off life. Get your. Get your. The army and they think they can fucking go nuts. Yeah. I don't know. But people don't like is really tourists. Really? Yeah. They got a reputation about him. Didn't know that Americans are way down the line. No Americans are not celebrated in a lot of parts where you travel men, celebrated a lot of the only ones who tipped consistently core people like our money to travel or not the fucking fat. Rednecks true. That's true. Gone and gone to the world. But sometimes they are. That's the that's sure sometimes there's a lot of merit. Plenty of noxious traveling. Yeah, but we're not in this top five. Really interesting. I would assume normally shitting at the mall. Down is in sanity, like for you to think. Are going to be like, oh shit. I piss public things that block me make block me. Around the time the block near just going to real quick. I we're in the woods that I gotta piss. There's no like a level. That's how they feel. That's how they feel. Do they don't even worry about cleans it up? It. Do they everybody? That if everywhere you looked geez. The way you walk. So if you were to confront somebody like right after the fuck is used to be like talking to you. Confront you got in your car. What? Do you think that it's where they're living is so overrun with people that they just shit anywhere? And they don't think that anybody has an environmental now you're asking. I will. Why? But this. And yeah, I think they have no expectation of privacy because there's so fucking on top of each other, their homes, extremely clean up shoes before you come inside. Really? The homes are. About is this thing like I'm not. But I'm saying main, but there's in on the mainland China over billion people. So you have a lot of really poor an educated rural parts, and like saying that somebody in that area does that'd be like, are you saying that, like, even somebody that lives in Beijing or Shanghai, who has a job order Wall Street? They don't know. They don't so that's not all mainlanders. We sit in malls. Right. But if you see shit in a mall, it's amazing. Let's, let's be clear when they say kids, what age group, is it high school, kids or trying to fuck or is it like shit? Before I wasn't insurance. I was in Hong Kong, Singapore Macau now Macao. What's funny is when you're in Macau, which is obviously big casino tourist destination. All the people there, they eyeball immediately who tell you who's, like, a, a mainland Chinese person, you know, because they well, that's a different type of thing where if there's somebody's like you see dudes in Macau in, like ver-, Sachi shades. And like a Fendi and Gucci, like. Crazy outfits. That. And they'll be like that's just a mainland. Dude. Who knew money? He just got rich. Why it's all over Macau. We, we just know. And then you see the, the, the, the understated person that's a Hong Kong guy. That's old money. Yeah. Right. Well, it's like England almost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. England guys that are like. Tracksuits and this, and then you've got old posh money. All right. All accents accent talent. Fucking fat, Florida. Oh, hey, what's up guys? What? Lori. I'll say country you do the accent without saying the words. Okay. Okay. Okay, we go Russia. Don't say the words just make the noises. They make. Smell. I'm not great at accents on rule. Anywhere. Any words that. Let's go to rural. Do you. I heard the samurai speaking sasquatch footage no one of the dumbest things at Dunkin. And I did we were doing. We went and studied Bigfoot, one of the dumbest things are the show with me, and one of the things that we did, when we studied big talk to Bigfoot expert, those planes, some audio and some of the audio, it sounds like a samurai. Go claiming that this was like a secret recording of Bigfoot really. It was the dumb ever heard anything, by the way in your conspiracy theories what you challenge. Was there. Anything that you ended up going oh, like, oh, good question. Not dumb. Yes. Really more disease Moore. Jones diseases a disease where people more challenges, I was called. But you're saying. Yeah. I thought it was bullshit before because I had read that it was bullshit. And what I read was that the people would think that they had things grown other skin, so they'd be scratching themselves, and they would add fibers to their skin and take pictures of it and say, look, I've got things growing out of my skin and that it was a hoax. But then talking to a doctor who had more Jones who explained to me that there's some sort of neuro toxic effect of Lyme disease, and that everyone who has more Jones also has lime disease and he was a legitimate doctor in a very smart guy. He was essentially saying that mainstream science in its rush to pew proves going to piss in that. Yeah. Come on, man. You're gonna get kicked off a YouTube with your dick out. Balls just straight to his day. Anyway. What was I saying? What was I saying that is a real disease that this more jealous disease is what it is, is lime disease. The there's a bunch of pathogens that come with lime disease. You know it's not just the lime disease is not a pure one one or zero. You have you don't it's dirty tick, as a bunch of fucking horrible diseases inside of it's nasty little body. Would you know if you had lyme's? Yes, you get a bullseye like like looking. Red Mark around the area and the area hurts. And then you start experiencing terrible centers like flu like symptoms. And okay, you gotta get the res supposed to catch it quit. Teeth, and he said he couldn't go back and forth. My friends kid got Bell's palsy. Whereas get me start over. That, that had bills palsy in high school, and they kept him out, and then he came back, and he was okay, but he, he came back while he still had the face paralysis on like looking at this dude, we had a student year old bells palsy. We mocked them, letting us Li like we should have froze pro pro. On stage on stage and his face started going on him. And he had to hold his cheek over to finish his jokes when he called his brother-in-law us, I think I'm having a stroke about to get on a plane with to stroke the next morning face was numb and drooped and his brother in law goes go to the fucking doctor right now. You're having our stroke, and it was Bell's palsy. And so what do they do about that nothing? Fucking nothing. Wait, if tad it, dude, I get. I wake up. If tied it to I think it's a virus, you'd be good at it. Do you think about Bell's palsy every fucking morning? Why? Capable. Ritual that it's my ritual every morning, gone left. I thought he was doing stole impression. He said. Hello to does he he got it when he was young. And sometimes it doesn't go away, go. And so he wrote, so we're at about three months. Does it affect a spelling or? I don't know if you. Spell. It doesn't help to wells. Basically, I he looks better now hung out with him this weekend, but so easy back onstage. He's back on stage. He's, he's, he spent like three weeks in his sister's basement, just being like it's never gonna come back my career's over, I can't go on stage like he tried to show. And he said, everyone just staring at like this like. So what do they do to fix it? Nothing. You just wait you just wait till it starts coming back said, reboot, was like, right face. So you gotta get Kayode wait. Do you think about this every morning to getting ready for a special? I think like what if I got belts? Jokes morning. The morning of my special secret time. I woke up and I smiled I'd be Bell's palsy. So I thought I had. Christ. How am I involved in this conversation? I can't believe I'm involved in this. What else forget think of alopicia this hair? Free. One gets every little every comic at the store had it burn at it a med at everyone. Got it at one point, and I was just was like, no, the hair. Just in, in a circle Norman added comics cat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Head when I was a kid. Yeah. I think about all the pizza too. I remember. A weird circle in in his head for while. Yeah. Wait, you said you were going to dominate earlier? What do you? Dominate the context again. I know. But. Dominating dominate life life. Yeah. Yeah. Time to dominate as you don't on your phone. That's what it was. I can masturbate multiple times a day, just wants you guys. The lady though, right? Do do we sit on? It might not be this year. About the fuck. Media of your wedding. Gonna take that. Dick as shit taped backup. Iraq accused of it shoot. Some hot ones. I love him so much. I got my dick fix. That's real. Yeah. Yeah. They pull the straw out of one of those sea turtles, noses, and they to fix my dick. No. This draw video the knows the most horrific video. It's the reason why they don't have plan if you like why the fuck do we have plastic cups to lids. We have plastic you're gonna show. We have plastic straws the reason why. Because there's a fucking video of turtle and they have a clam. I don't know if this is the main reason, but it is for a lot of people, the lamp, this straw in his turtle's mouth, and they eventually pulled in turtle's nose, rather it was deep in his nose. Yes, you can one of those soci- that's a, that's a stroke. Tell you got stuck. It is. See true harder. It is so much harder to watch this cab to animals into people. How do we not know this wasn't a night of cocaine gone wrong? Look at that poor turtle. So he inhaled this. Yeah. Can good one off. So they, they realized that the straw was stuck. And apparently, this is not in weeding. It's this is not an unusual thing, so they have to wait. What do they tweets or get a real tweets guy? He's scared and got a little hands, too. It's got little fucking tight hands who just grab it and pulled saving turtle things about this person's hands portal's going, no. Rain like Jim, Jim Norton's going. No, don't do it. He's in a pocket knife. Well, that's always got. Oh, just. Bite it with my face. And I would pull it out with my neck, because your warrior someone hold. It's about the animals care about the animals. I'm a warrior for C creatures. Are they we go? This has gotta get the fuck out leatherman no disguise horrible, horrible operation was this. It takes time. But it's worth it at the end. He's trying to bite the show. He's like, what are you guys doing? Fine. It's better before lead me. He's bleeding fucking knows how did they get the turtle on the first place guys stopping bitch grabbed fighting here goes. Nope. No loss to the fucking pull eventually gets it. Eventually gets swear to go. This show him getting it. Erred, okay, videos almost so this hard. That's gonna take that out. And they're gonna stick it in our dick hold fixes. Another turtle. They should do. They should recycle it to open up your dick. The flu. They take that rock out that calcified dick rock. Make a nice ring lady that is really. Romantic pipe with the actual tube that they pulled out turtle's nose diamonds in there, too. You know did. Types on it out. Yeah. What if we each raise dire wolf like something? Someone's drug. Oh my God. It's funny guy. Leave my car here. Yeah. For sure. Of course out if you want if a car here do we got? We got a straight put moving. We're gonna put like all those jokes on the side your car. Do you like do you like to laugh? Yeah. We do that. We're going to do, I don't have a car so it's tough but rental car. I would be for sale number. Yeah. Whatever happens to it happens to it. Yeah, we'll put a silver October wrap on that bitch. I said, we all rep Arcos cards. So Brooke Tober do your own extra wrap can't already. Rob. I. Japan wraps of my face. It's so much fun. I put my face everything the bus champ. I didn't even take the bus champ is the tour bus champ now. You're not what are you doing at Lyme disease? What is that? That's too wrong with you. Wrong with you. Is that poison Ivy poison? Bit would help you bet, some CBD oil, rozema, Masebe oil in that where my doctor. How'd you get poison Ivy on your camping trip at Bobby? Yeah. Put that down. Shut up. That's what everybody was. Kick out. You can't catch. No catchy. No catchy. What you sure why he coughing man. Yeah. Star coughing fucked up thing about diseases to the try to spread themselves. Alien. I did a meet and greet and Spokane and I'm doing it. And the guy next to me, the guy next guy rips his shirt off puts his arm around me, and he has a cough earning on fire, and I go, bro. You are hot and he's got a pretty bad fever. I really think you're going to get it to. That is the perfect bird fan. Sick. Fan, but I'm taking my shirt off your taking years off to, and then he'd probably like, hey, you if we kiss berbie like. One of the things of the other night, we were talking, I was drunk, I was talking about how it, my, my inner dialogue issue think I'm weak. So one of the ones is when guys go, it's always like big Italian guy's picture. You kiss me on the cheek kiss me on the fucking go now man because my, my here my brain think I'm fucking week to kiss me the to his. Hey, fucking nipple. Yeah. You run into a lot of weird people with Bell's palsy for an hour. It'd be great talks in your face for a month, because that does work a good challenge. Challenge and raise awareness lady who shot much. Affected her. Yeah. Be careful you get to the wrong doctor and one more shot. Little more. During the me to smile at women just to make sure I'm Bell's palsy. Imagine if you nose is running even. Oh my God. Dude. No, I wouldn't mind the tiny face tattoo. Yeah. This is what we will do. All get both talk. So we can't we face to do your act. You have to do your act like Joan rivers, like with a with a frozen expression. Do there's a show? I really start to mature with our voices. That's only you'll have. You can't raise your eyebrows. At all rivers had bits about it really. She knew about surgery. It was like a mask Shula surprise catfish. That's what's his name Joseph, who's the lawyer. Berry Giraldo told he told flavor flav you look like a skeleton with duct tape wrapped around hid. I forgot everybody. Challenge should be hip. We've another hour. We've another some fun of when you start getting a move down. You know what? So wait. What it should be run something that we can do on the road could all on the road. Pair foot running on telling you this. It might not be this year, and it might not be next year. But eventually, you guys will come into my idea of metal I've mental health. Fanta. And opened his bad idea. I'm saying Joe saying this is a conversation. We I don't know if you wanna show this, but he was saying backstage, and he was like, it's not bad to do another one of these halfway in. So if you wanted to another do like a may sobre something with may be listening. Absolutely. You should do that on your own. I'm cool with anything decide I just think it should be hip hop. Dancing do it twice a year. Okay. Just wait one other thing you were saying earlier, how your body moves. So I want to know. Like are you flexible or used to flexible, very? Yeah. Show really how flex? Touch your hands behind the hind. You're, of course, none of behind. This way behind. Let's see. Can you split shorts on the table right now? Yes, I can do a split genes have lycra in. Let me show, me how to do a split personnel, so you can do split listen. I don't wanna get a muscle pull. So I'll go down as far as I can go with same here. Same here. Yeah. You do the same. Just save time and touched Dick's now. All right. Fuck that. Yeah. Dick is about that fall off the ground. And I think the I think if you didn't have jeans on, okay? The gravity would take his dick all the. Okay. All right. All right. That's legit. Bert. Ghost. Yeah. For farther, if you can't. So now wait a minute. Yeah. Percent. Now at the end. Definitely. All the way down like you. Yes. Okay. Ready burt. Yes. Okay. Those pants are not even designed for that. Shoes. Don't hurt yourself. Don't don't tell you. That was really close. Conversation. We had all month last October. We got a need. Need to look? Here's the deal was the deal. I'm not going into sober October half ass. I'm definitely charging everyone. You mother fuckers just like I did get one of the all time specials of all time with even shittier. Yeah. What do you say better know saying, whatever we decide to do? Still going said you did that last year. No, no, no, no. Last year. He was awful that he's gonna come back strong. But he was saying he's going to come after us like he did last year. I think. No saying on this truck. Let's hear me, okay. I go saying, I'm gonna I'm not going to not talk shit this year. Interesting. Okay. No can't work anymore. Right. But that's why when I do so bad. If Mickey mental content mix Iran. Literally literal. Mickey mantle. I have the Mickey mantel jeans. I. What does that mean? Mike that spoke at the memorial more. So badly. Wanted to heating died of disease and stuff like that. People want to yell out. They didn't have the Mickey mantel, Jay. I did. I did a date. I don't know recently and there was with the promoters that you work with now. And so you work with, like one promoter. You work with the promoter. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We all do keep going. I was. I was. Promoters. What is trying to say? Yeah, the Mickey Mickey a single guy when, when we're hanging out with your girlfriends. It. He's got this one. He's got this one. Get a call, I guess I'm your promoter Burt. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. You wanna tell you I heard Tom talking promoters, and it may be proud that I'm promoted. Fucking. Someone else you would. I mean you wouldn't be that hurtful that you would be referring to someone else's your promoter is. Sweating. The they brought up, gene. And they're like. Dates would try to hang out. Days. They're like a kid who's, yeah. Can't very few people can keep up with my pace on the road, Margaret baron, or Mark more. Norman worried about if I don't know if I can come up. I don't know if I don't try to drink, you broke them days ninety try I don't know. It's just it's just I don't even notice. No, no, no. I'm saying why did he try? Why would he try to rookie? I said you go on your pace just be with hundred percent. Guy's name the promoter. Works. Anything? All right. So. Agreed that the surfing challenge was, too crazy, right? Well surfing. Thinking might be a fun idea. Board. No. Find out but here's the thing, it's like I don't live anywhere near fuck your, your shoe near New York, and you live near law beach, but you're going to be on the road, fucking, whatever where do people who? This. Dance. I don't know. Fuck somewhere. They're think about you walk onstage, the life combined you right now. Like comes down. Right. The music starts in Houston. Boom boom, boom. And then and then the beat breaks and you go into something else. And you, you learn how to flip in this month already. Forty five minutes left to give. You know. You're in, you bang out a split. Guys are high. Does no way. They're gonna spill do split in two gonna be dead on. I really didn't think you could do a split. That's walking. No, I didn't. Because that's what I do. So. Just let. No, I didn't know to split grownup doing splits tough. Yeah. You got pretty not that close the those good. Do you pictures split multiple ones? Who's posting your can you sit crisscross applesauce in your legs, art? Yes. Toes straining there, by the way, spasm, until the one big does way away years recently doing pulling my feet up so that I can push down with my hips. And the other. This doing this. I'm spreading if I spread my feet out, like quadrant, lifting toes, up, instead of pointing them down that could be doing that. So I can lean in with mine, so you stretch the abductor abductor muscle guys guys gymnastics. Good luck. This guy breaks his hip every time he fucking gets out of the shower. To try house, the Israeli gymnastics. He can't do gymnastics. He won't be able to do anything with that hand for like a year. Can squeeze a ball out about nineteen months? Yeah. Where's your break? Where's the break is okay? So in this, I it's a bone here shipped off and just free fallen. Tom petty there and the other one on here. They have a push in break their only only see in like young children. I told him I lot of gummy related products and goes that might be that could for sure that part of it. So two different breaks and this is from a fall, it was a pretty pretty useful. One children, young children on formed the developing it's, it's. It's. Don't form right possible. Thirteen months. Really? Yeah. Or he was hall gymnasts okay gymnastics is outlet this, let's broke his arm. Yeah. Ski challen fucking shredding shit in front of them should nor would be if we had a ski challenge we couldn't do October. I guess it was how much you guys could eat my dust and. Do you go down? Yes. Legit skier. No, this for you Ari. Is is fearless. And he can go down anything, but it looks disgusting. It's like it's like watching your parents fuck it is like he snow plows the entire time just like pizza pie. This really but he hauls fucking at U haul ass. No, six miles an hour, sixty miles an hour show. I see a bummer like I'm hitting their fucking jump. Get air. That's why you always breaking things. Yeah. Broken ankle. Your notes again. Yeah. What do you need the last note that said dominate mex-, see broken what have you broken ankle ankle two years wrist, PTO chasing the dog that, didn't count poison Ivy like this? Who's a six tower like a bad or cost know that promoted that Burt worked with? Oh my God. We have to we have to figure out. I really think that direction I'm going with hip hop dances, the right direction because it Joe it puts you are playing field. You're playing hip play dance once playing field. I don't like that at something someone's already done. That's why even if I did this, I would have to go further. I don't like about the hip. No. I like that. The running one. Yeah. I feel like we already weary now. It's going to go. We know it's going to go dominate. You're gonna talk show. Because we would just track miles. Is that what we do? We get the rock. No, it's going to go. So that's way. How do you think it's going to go? He's thinking we're not gonna go. Thank you. Nope. Psycho over here would fuck he'd logged twenty one hundred. Everyone's gonna die. Yeah. And then he weighs a fucking buck thirty five. So halfway through the month he'd be like, you know, I can actually do ten at a fucking chop now. Yeah. And then you'd break down and they get mad at me for doing steroids. Probably. The comedy store Armstrong comedy. Was so rocky over conscious because he was a steroid was your introduction. This. That's so funny. He really wanna finish challenge by steroids with his friends. Finish club. I remember being with Artie, when he realized you're using steroids in the car, and he goes steroids testosterone replacement therapy. Okay. On top of that. If I actually used steroids, it would be more ridiculous. Fucking chick. Raking over here. We do an archery challen now me out. God. We least amount of time spent with your kids that are wins. I probably beat. With your kids. Okay Perea for real, no joke, go mine. The phone thing, stuffing catching on I don't mind, the fitness, hip hop challenge. It would be a good way lost thing. Just same as yoga was like a ridiculous. Thinking about doing it to get you actually wanna lose weight and lose weight. Yoga my skin. And it's probably a lot of because the booze to and whatever else I do. But like my skin look look good. I look good. I didn't hate the Oga. For you. I'll tell you that another component you mentioned earlier. That was, I did this for like, maybe twelve day stretch at the end of the weight loss challenge, nothing, but water, and that makes you feel fucking amazing after because I just wasn't doing the weight loss bottle battle. And I just didn't drink anything but water for like almost two weeks. And like everything changes the way you looked what you feel only drank walk terrible thing yet. Who we dragged him right now? Should see. I, I want I was making a joke about my, my right arm just put shit in my body that I don't want it to do a mind of his own. He's just like what the fuck you doing. Asshole drinking diet coke coke, orange juice anything. But water, right? Most people. Yeah. I mean, you, you usually for me. I mean, I can get by on a lot of combination of coffee and water. Yeah. I mean, I still will have some other things. But I don't do it. A lot just just do water though. We just drink water. You definitely if you get over the what's it called, like the, you know, withdrawal whatever the other thing is definitely feel good. I went a day without caffeine. By the end the dad headache. I'll get. I have a headache, I get a real headache. That's exactly what it is. I'm telling you not this year next year. Whatever when, when you do get off your phones. You're, you're gonna have those same withdrawal symptoms. Now you're right. You're right. I got back on my phone. I was on the tour. Bus off my phone. We were texting about some bullshit. And then those like odd on Twitter, and I got on Twitter, and it just it, it became my life right again. Just I like dipping. I cannot dip tobacco. Why? Because if I do you're right back, right back in for a long time. Missus. Florida will do to you. Drink. Dipping worse for you than than way. Definitely. Not good for you. Just fucking burn rate. The burn all peeping. Peeping ain't thinking that good. It's a nice little signal so flag. You've got a big fat lip dip you'll let people know you're making lead. No, you're strong. You're ready for anything. Zach galvanic used to go on stage at the improv the dip in his mouth didn't as Carolina. What's going with a big dip into just spit and tell the people that he didn't give. It was so much fucking fun. It was a great. Larry did you see him at brody's? Oh my God. No, he brought a party. He's gone past. Exactly. He was out walking. Yes. Go ahead. No his. I mean, his stand up was it was all amazing watching super tight with Brody. Yeah. They're back my wife. My wife doesn't think anything's funny Zach next had a joke that I to this day, I think is just a great joke. You know, it's time to get, you know, his time to do laundry, when you get out of the shower and dry the shoe. Fuck it just great. Forget where he was like doing what's your name Joe? And it's like, what's, what's your name, Bert? I didn't know where the improv. He was funny at Brody ceremony, not as funny as Jeff Jeff Ross Ross. Oh my God. Jeff Jeff but, but will axe was like touching the sweet and funny and it was like everything you'd want Ross just came up there and just everybody was so kind of, you know, sad, intense and emotional opened his opening joke, was so savage and hilarious. Roadies brody's all these high school friends had gone up like seven of them, and then and then friends from baseball like telling all these others. You see Zach and then, like three of these friends, and then another comic and then, like three of these friends and then Jeff just went up and he goes, you know, after hearing, so many of brody's high school friends compensate, speak about them. I know I killed himself. The fucking. The place. Just his was in the room we had to weigh thirty seconds because everybody just fucking it was it was right. That's the that's really comedy is best at evidently. And Jeff is he's so good. It's. Right. Yeah. That's his world. Costing the best. He's the best at it. Yeah. Fog, so no hip hop. Dancing? I don't know dude. I honestly gonna see Joe is you're gonna see an onslaught of people online going Joe. Hip hop. Dancing is not a bad idea different. I'm not gonna see shit. Why? I'm so happy. Good. Lock him. Let me see pop and load. You want the door vanilla. Hey. So it should be something that none of us are happy with. I'm not happy with this show. I think that the fun thing about October, when we first did it was that we were all miserable. Together. Joe wasn't so miserable. But like me, you and Tom would all just commiserate that was far. It. Well, I didn't like being sober. It was weird. I didn't like. The weird dreams knows have in when I was going through Tf THC withdrawals when my ram sleep was kicking in. That's what I realized that, that TAC definitely suppresses ram sleep. Definitely does hundred percents proven. It's proven it, does it does something, weird, your sleep and math. Dr Matthew Walker's asleep. Dr. The best way to describe. Listen that test crazy podcast. But he you know, he just talked about the mechanism like, what, what THC does it helps me go to sleep at a certain parts of the sleep that you're not getting? I'd love to there's an argument, either that Nodar getting it the knock getting sleeps. Okay. That you're, you're getting plenty of sleep because you're the reason why THC puts you in that drink recovering get. There's an argument that somebody made online that I don't know if it's correct. Some someone wrote an article about it that, that is okay to not get that. That's a good point. Whatever kind of sleep that came from the THC. Let's see you can sleep, the most in October. I think. I love that idea most our sleep Ambien. Oh, no, no. Do you take anything to go to sleep? No. I'll take a zanex every now and then my cardiologist, told me never to take them. So I'll get a prescription for thirty for a year and I won't use them. He tells you never take. No, no, no. He gave me a prescription for weekly. He goes, don't take them. They melt your brain. Oh my God. You know, so funny is they do melt your brain. You know, if you take one the next two days, you don't remember morning radio like old school morning radio. When you go in, you have to be on, on to go to the next subject, and side joke in, and you remember, like, leaving God, damn I'm sharp take Xanax, and that doesn't happen for two days, you can't jump in and conversation like that. So I will I noticed I was taking them and I just stopped, and I was like a lot sharper, just fucking nothing. So like if you would go on stage and have something just wouldn't have it in you first time ever took when I got on a plane and 'cause I used to have a drink on the plane that start writing jokes zanex in these are going to flow out of me and I just sat there staring at the paper when, like my brain's turned off all the fucking scary thoughts are gone fuck taking what? It's a great one believe, after p again real. Yeah. Do to many podcasts in a row, where do two in a row, I drank like eighteen bottles of water in love with Lance Armstrong's fucking coffee. Hamiltons. This coffees. Yeah. Have you ever had? So it's, it's actually, as an ARIN there, turmeric turmeric, what else is I didn't know it in are in there until like a week, Kubrick. Yes. Always sounds like to Merick. So I thought it was I thought it was to combine the coffee and take off is cool. Anytime. Anytime. Let's let's put parameters. There's so many times, I wanna come over here and do bench press over anytime. You want where real here? Yes. Joe says every once in a while some will take advan- whatever whatever you want. It's every single one this year. But that's a. People do abuse things like I've had people to say, hey, man. To the UFC. Oh, yes. Sure. Eight tickets. For eight fucking tickets. Coming. I wish there was a gym membership here. Let me know. You can do it at what podcast like the guys the security guys, they work out this go workout. See them on there. It's like it's like watching alien here. What are you like where are the ship like Z them? It's so cool here man. Brad, I want this for myself, you can help you. I'm talking to my promoter about it. What's his name again? Roger roger. Name. You know what? This place is missing. A gun range. Go to one like one of them gun ranges, where the fucking comes out. Yeah, we do. Place here that does what's it called? No, no, no. What's it called? It does training school training. Yeah. That she wants you ready. Yeah. In seamy valley. This might be the place. No trading. That's it. Yeah. Reggie Nyerere going to do it, and then we're going to podcasts afterwards. So did he do register Montana? He's like. Tell you something, have you ever seen him perform live? It's crazy is music just performed. Yeah. Just like seen him he was going to show, you will feel like what you do is nothing is not a talent like is not a skill. I'm not kidding. Yeah. I've I saw this to do a this is years ago. This is like at least seven years ago, maybe eight years ago he did at ten at most fifteen minutes set and it was so unbelievable that he got a, like a prolonged standing ovation fucking ten minute set, like, do you know how crazy your ten minutes that has to be doing dude? He was like just improvising songs on the spot. And then, you know, he, he would do that thing where he would make a certain sound then with the machine you tap it. And then loops start building it and he would do that. And then he would just have a funny aside about something then. Then take it back. But the, the songs he was building in the moment. We're so like it wasn't like he was going like. You like that. I mean it was like a full orchestra. Yes. It was unlike you see it, and you go, there's something about musicians, that when you can see certain musician where you like you don't view a comedian where you go, like, oh, my fucking God cannot believe the level of talent of that you might think they're really funny or laugh a lot. But you're not gonna be like I've never seen something like right, right? Right. But music I think that that can happen. He's that everybody up at bonnaroo a place where everybody was bombing just a ten, it's not for comedy. Anyways got everybody in their feet like he has a he's he's like that. Yeah. To super. Yeah. Win the crowd like not talking to you, just you also like now you're standing up and doing whatever. Yeah. Yeah. He's talked to somebody that went on a tour with them like around that time it was like four four of them night. You know, like doing ten cities together. I was like, what ordered you guys pick he was, like, what are you fucking? Thank think. Last. Neverwhere follow someone who's like really good at music it. Because it just talk. Yeah. To have a problem with that with middle acts. Those one of the things that happened with. With Mitch Hedberg in Mitch Hedberg was on the road, and the added the middle act was a guy was doing wraps here, like wraps and songs and think things that saying he was crushing and then Hedberg will go on afterwards. And, you know, super deadpan pan worst. Scheduling ever who fucking book or you ever have a middle act who in a club who just stayed a middle act. But for like fifteen years, but became proficient doing twenty minutes, and you're like. And you're like, oh yeah it'd be like a guy who's like you know, he came an older. You know what I'm talking about. But it's like two ladies ROY Johnson, ROY John Tampa. Anymore. What's your promoters? Johnson was a monster off stage in Tampa and you could fuck it follow that guy. He was a monster. He quit doing comedy sell cars, and Tolson. Ow. Dude, he was you could not that motherfucker save. Tripoli. Trillion him at beef because they to show and there was a secret shopper in the in the audience higher. Secret shoppers to rate, the comedian APPA. Yeah. And yeah, ROY to streudel. I mean yeah. No, he didn't. I had worked with them. Better than the headliner. And do I can't disagree with you. Andrea percent. Yeah. Right. When you're keyed into that, like when you get in on Thursday, you see that it definitely raises your game for the whole week for sure. Oh for sure. Because you'll see and that guy will have that he'll be the guy that stayed in that's fucked, he quit and start selling cars if he's that funny because he was a feature. Probably he probably if I remember, right? Probably didn't start at like twenty or twenty two these little older kind of moody, also. It's like wanna stay in town. Why think I think relationship happened? Friends of ROY. But no, I think that it was the thing that you get addicted to murdering and you don't grow past murdering, and you don't go like, I'm going to go up and take chances because I want to blow the headliner off stage. Not I'm not shitting on ROY. But he just destroyed. But I don't think ever took the tattoos. I'm gonna go out and bomb tonight and see if I can figure something out, you know, I think that's what happens to the features. There's a lot of the men, I worked with all of them. Yes. A pro features for sure. I remember who he was a, he he's the story of the guy who was headlining in those clubs for like a decade or more didn't like breakout breakout. But obviously it was he was like a proficient comedian, then, like, you know, has always has, like, somebody has personal stuff happen, and it's like family stuff. And for whatever reason than they're like still in it. But now they've been doing it like twenty five years and then just needed the work would take Middle East. I mean you know does do would fuck in hurt you. Oh, yeah. Dude, for sure. Oh, really knew how to crush local references. And then they're just like, and they've been doing for imagine twenty years just do twenty and and do it for like ten weeks ago. Yeah, it was like tired of material those, I'm here to kill. Yeah. The Boston all they do short, because those guys fifteen or twenty night do fifteen twenty nine and then they would do it like three or four of them in a row. And then bring Billy crystal. I'm not joking. Well, Billy, crystal shit, next comedy stopped that way, a lot of guys. Did they set them up? It's rude. They set these like, big name headlines because a lot of it was like jealousy. This guy thinks she can come here. Yeah, yeah. And they would they would set them up bang, bang, bang. They would put their biggest hitters. Steve sweeney. Kevin knox. Don gavin. Bang, bang. Lenny Clarke, boom boom, boom. And then these poor bastards would come in from out of town, and these guys talking all this Boston talk. And then you gotta bullshit ass act anyway. Yeah. Kind of drift in you just in between movies. Do little comedy. Make yourself feel good. Go up. See your during fans. Hey, I'm just gonna fuck around and Boston. How just go down there. And I don't really have an act right now. He's in it together. Anyone's Gavin's Sweeney smash and the fuck and room is falling apart. And you see these poor guys like the look in there. I knowing they were going to certain death. Nothing. Nothing worse than crossover. Black act crossover black guy played a play to white audiences were you just go up and it's and you're young. You're thirty two feels marketing fields racist. I don't know if it is. But. His name the cross. He would fuck into. Piss anymore. Right there. Do you think do you think the hardest that you like the hardest active would be like BT guys? Okay. Acta follow. This is always this, but also the place. So just to give you an example, talking about following Mike Marino, at a fucking cop convention. Okay, go ahead. I'm gonna tell you the hardest, we can ever had my entire fucking life. Yes. I go to go to Miami. We'll still believe, you know, power ready. No, I don't because like I always him fucking like he's one of those guys that could just at least kill dwell. I get booked in Miami. It's my first headlining week for the improv, and I don't sell any tickets and they give me a call. And they said, we need to bring in another comic who's already in town to help you sell tickets right now doing just take my shoes off your socks off. I don't know these fucking mushrooms. I don't know. Okay. I was like. I forgot. Pissing table. You taking the fucking socks off. Oh, hi. Sorry. So you're in Miami. I do wanna hear this. So you're in Miami. What happens they go another another comic in town, and you got and he's gonna co headline with you. But the problem is he's already brought his own feature. He was. He thought he was gonna headline. So who was it? I'll tell you the line of. Okay. So they go. So we've cut the host. So we got your feature his feature hem then you in Miami, in the heyday of Miami. Yeah. The first day. I don't know him. I've never met this eighty five. Yup. They go the break down the host is going to do fifteen. The features gonna do fifteen. He's gonna do forty you're gonna do forty. Okay. Right. That's a long your life. This is the internet since and imagine that this guy was to follow, especially in Miami where everyone's Spanish-speaking, ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for Ricky crew. Kooky Steve driving, your Birt crater dude, I bombed hotter than I've ever bombed in my life. I mean, Miami's wet dripping off my chin town. I had to bring. On that whole set a black eye on stage and I brought a Cuban guy onstage. Fuck. I pulled his dick out. No, that's the different night. But. I said to him, I go you. I'm gonna just people understand me. So I'll say the joke and you translate it to your people. And so then do stage of me. So I go, I was talking to this girl, and the black guy goes man, I'll spend game at this bitch and the place went nuts. And I said, it's the space. He just said it Spanish me, not put up whatever, and it's fucking destroyed in my whole act that way, whenever joke. I'd have them translated, they set out on my safe. Thirty five minutes and drank tequila with me. Good move. Figure. You're going to figure it out. Man, I see Trevino to strong. Zied of Royd. Never. That's what you bombs, and you played it for everybody Tom's kind of have a half memory of that. Right. I mean I played like clips. Like. Better than anybody. It was good. Home. You've ever sat in the back of a room with that was good. How about Sacramento, that's the book and worse. The fun punchline what it what it was called the laugh. Yeah. Yeah. When I was there, I was like the worst thing about a bomb a bomb on a Friday night is an you bomb on the early show. And you can't believe how hard you just life. Altering bomb hotter on the late show. Both sold out. So it's not like eight people like, oh my God to the gills, and what was the catalyst the catalyst? I mean, he got me because I remember that I was like, I, I'm reading my life tonight like after, you know, she's it was that bad. But then what was what started it would start the boat started? The bomb was the opening joke 'cause I was just like, by the way before you tell your opening joked Tom is great with feeling uncomfortable in a moment and taking it to the next level. We're in Hawaii with Russell Peters. The one thing they say is do not mention negative shit about the winds Tom's opening joked you remember. And they said island life, slow didn't know they were talking about your metabolism's. Holy shit. You guys fat into the same shit in Australia. I. Javanese people lost on base today, look into a Japanese guy. He pointed me out. They know everything about this base over there. Drinking. Oh my God. You got me for a fraction of a second. I was like, no. No, you didn't. Looked at it. Like he's. During his this. How did you're going Sacramento? The Sacramento bomb was Dir. It was the month after the month after Hurricane Katrina. So I opened with a joke. I don't remember the wording of it, but it was like how they were there's reports of people raping people in the aftermath, and I was like. I was like I open, I was just like, you know, nothing like a scene dead bodies float by makes more fuck somebody, you know, and then I just kind of like about, like, you know, dead people. And it would eat so much shit. Go go to my act now. Go to because it was like. Already too late. And I would bomb for the full the. The funny thing is they both shows thirty minutes tickets. To this is funny, turn. This is the word. And other Lexi in Denver on TV floating by. The timing. The timing. That the club lady Leslie, you like your new feature at a clam, remember she. She goes, the bomb feel so bad, then you're sweating so hard. You're emotionally just taxing. Right. You're just like God, damn, I walk off stage and I run like indoor she goes. I thought you were supposed to be funny. She likes to read and I go what she's like you're supposed to do twenty five to twenty three and I was like fucking. All right. And then that's the first show then the second show, literally is worse in an inconceivable. Way is worse. Try to save joke or try to open with. And then. So hard. Eat it so hard that I'm middling hem sees, like, damn dude, you fucking suck. He's like, he's like, he's like, you're like he was just like it was that big McLean. Yeah, he was like he was just like God damn. I've never standing. Jodi jovial. Feel like big lots. Yeah, it was Mike. And then the next day I was, like, I don't know how many do and Bert, coz one piece of advice. Open different to do whatever you want, but just opened on a different joke. I was like, all right, then, and at the time I swear to you that fucking I show Saturday by the best set that I've ever had, like unbelievable set did a lady. Okay. No. He goes, I, I was I felt redeemed, right? I fucking destroy right? I mean like the MC's like Jesus. He's I've never seen a turnaround like this feels like I, I walk around and I see her and I go like she goes, what I didn't hear anything. She pretended like she didn't know shit. See, I remember grabbed her she kept coming up to me, and you said he was funny. You brought them with you. And trust me, the best part about his bomb was Thomas. Wait I lost during the sweating longer hair comb it back. So it would be upright. And as he bombed starts to fall. It starts to get wet. I was so can with great jump in a pool. I was fucking soaking wet feel when you're eating shit. It's not like anything else on earth. I remember. I remember that, like he was up on stage and somebody yell at him like some he's your fucking. And the and the like. Return? They'll turn on your call. Back. I remember him winning them back. I was like, damn, I used to have some, some quick co twos on that favors, a Honey. Your mouth, God made your mouth for one thing. And it's not talking. Was that mean? Good joke. Reproachable. I would love to hear like a feminine. It's you say. Flashing rationed read. This one is too. Oh on. Don't usually flash. Really do much or. His shoes off the mushrooms are to Shindo something. We got a little bit heat them during the show right before the show right before, you know, it wasn't enough that whatever like such. It's nice it gives you a little nice thing. But like my palms Saudi and I'm fucking out of sweating. Is that what you're? Is that what you get your problems? Rap battle. Pedal battle rap dollars at guts, I'm serious. It's either. Hip hop talents. If I'm challenge his difficult, though. Look different. Nothing. That's the point Ari. You wanna watch people do stuff have your player since when is it about anybody else other than us? No. But did tune in if they like it, they like it. But you, you don't do it for other people. Yeah. Hold on joke. Talk show the first. Watching note, watches us, instrument hold your breath channel really holding his breath. I don't fucking know Burt. Everyone doesn't have to be on every goddamn thing. You do every particular shirt, he goes gonna bring. Shit. Shit on his script. But the shit. The girl say when you're, you're posting dad's mom background. Oh my girlfriend. Trying to stream and provide for the family fucked them. They don't realize I've leverage their futures for income right now is you paid a hefty price to my kids, do not like that. I've talked that much about them. Well, probably not have done that. Twenty twenty Joe early on. He was like, really miss your kids like, what's, what's what? The kids were fucking stupid. That's what I said. He said, they're not even gonna know. What if people come out to the mall, and they say, hey dad was talking about? God, they call George on the phone on stage the other day and everyone's Yellen island. Like, no, I'm Georgia. The smart one. Don't don't look twenty twenty. I was being honest. I didn't know another way to do stand up. I get it. I get it. You do it one way fine for most of the world. That's the thing like most things are fine for most of the world. It is a small percentage of people that are just wired fucked up as we gotta come. We gotta go, I gotta go soon ten to six. Yeah. We gotta go now. I think you're gonna see the online Becca see anything off to you. Not gonna look they walk your number. Just about this one. Look at it. No music. Just show her stance. If we're going to do, but she break dance go to stance elements and watch some of these guys do his video. Chet faker fuck. This is great. Yeah. Some death. Look. Real dance. Be glazer. I'm telling you this, how will shoot it on a fan of this girl de Glazer's named she's choreographer. She's got blonde hair. Give Nelly Nelly from the Lou Anna predator. Can't we can't play the music watch for dance? Okay. Let's watch it. Doing joe. And I really think you're gonna like what do you sell? Murdy out to all right here. Glazer cardinals fan. Yeah. For us. Joe anything that doesn't require you to lose weight. I'm not looking bodies in fucking, great show. This is us doing the her name. Glazer glazer. Okay. She's great. She's great. She's great. And this'll be us. Imagine how much funny it'd be when you do it, though, because you're fat. Yeah. You learn to this percents you do. Thinks he can do a fucking split your member that thing lately. Could you hold on? You think you could do this? I could get my body to move that way of someone taught me and I spent a fair amount of time. The month one month. No, not as good. Could be better than all of us. Oh, definitely be better than you. And that's all the counts right? Joe joe. Joe come on. This is me and Tom and you and Ari we do a one altogether. He likes the bell egg. What's it called? All right. Do you learn to do this? Look over here. Bert. Getting rid of this, you tell me a challenge that you think's fair. Anybody everybody should way in right now? What do you think? Barrasso, because that place that place like that is right near my apartment. I walked, by the way home from not working out, and I've looked through the window at them doing crazy like that. Challenge to be I'm crazy, Instagram -able moment? I'm gonna keep this. This is mine. I liked I like having it. Look at that a gopher that in never gonna get this. I'm getting it. If we do you think so, okay waste cost challenge? By the way, if you should get a weight loss challenge belt, I think we should probably make. That'd be a great idea. Horrible fucking ID. It's a great idea. Get on it, Jamie. Order it up. Okay. Brandit tour. Bus champ to I wanna marathon, Bill. Okay. He's doing to try to get. Like a button or something you in a minute. Run it. Because you promote her head when I saw when I was. One of them. Racers that go on top of a pencil, the nobody ever you triangle. To writing. Pencils are so crazy? And you use that a racer boy, you need an extra get hands on the. Hands on the campaigns right now. He'll be ill. Tell you how it spirit. Now, listen. What about what about if this hold on? I had the bucking. He had the greatest idea. Remember if if we do at the hip hop challenge. Yes. No one's going to be there to cheer. Anybody in queer, the judges it has to be just a filter. Yeah. You can't. Judge anymore. Well, it's in the that's my friend. Miriam, knock Komodos snacks, snack modo snacks. So just us. And then get actual judges don't know us to decide. You have to really make a place three people earned to Joe. I think he's got to say this alternative use attorney. Let's come up with something where we don't need judges. I don't wanna bring judges in because then we have other people like then it's gonna get gross. It's a bad idea. Judges judge. Because ends the power over to other people in our organization to, I don't even talk to other people. Okay. I'm trying to cut people out of my life. I'm not trying to add to hit the judges. Now I don't have the time. The only like idea I like ours idea. No social media for year except I haven't. You can run. It just Jamie posted a video posted trust. No. You'd have you'd have to be charged. Over there. He snaky he's thinking he's check my DM's. Why don't we? He judges who's the best see the picks coming my way, a real thing. You're right. Judge is a real thing. But I think we're in the right direction with hip hop dance. Why? Because it's your invention. No, no, no. You lose again, this should be a real penalty for. Penalty a real repercussion for you. I, I don't like Joel dance and we'll put in the worst. Good one, if you come in last, you give us spread it out. Elective -ly a million dollars. Sure. Doing better now. Tour bus champ. You have to think about that. Just sign up for it. You're not gonna lose if those are the stakes. What does it come? Visit wait, hold on. Hold on one. Second. Just let's let's let's talk tour. Bus champ comes at a price. Dude, my bus fucking sick. You can't just be tour bus champ million. His too. AM bird, you understand. This is strange that you keep failing these things, yet you keep bragging every time we get together. So much excess. When it comes to you guys. I think sometimes you guys forget about it. I was. I was twelve. Admit it. Nelson the live don't you not the tour bus champ to bus that I was on this week? The championship was going on. Who's who's to trip when it say what it's me, of course. I'll come clever better. Bus did you ever take a picture of your bus? Put it online. Oh, really? Fucking Photoshop two hundred times. No, the outside of your boss doesn't count. Tom, the inside your bus that looks like a prison yard. Definitely. Not did not have a broken transmission. No internet TV's that didn't work, you internet. I want you to pause for a second. Imagine a world where the thing you're bragging about when you've been called out for failing to challenges in a row heart as great first thing you talking about, is this not even the shape of the bus that you drive around in? I didn't start toward the chip. How much is prepared? Woods was the transmission bad will, then I win. Yeah. Point flat tire, then I. Leonardo DiCaprio the Titanic we. We had a challenge you came at last. What he was like, what are the repercussions for you fucking pushing out, I'm not putting Wyndham fuck if? Windham. Fuck. If founded the reasons why have this right here is because I read about you saying that you've got to put it on your mantlepiece. That's never Mickey mantelpiece. Joking. You can you entertain a circumstance in which you think Bert could beat you hip. Hip. They're all Osler make an even game where anybody's point pool game. No, no. But like American challenge that, where it's like you gotta make we have to be. I'd have to have some form of lymphoma. Really wrong, a physical thing, but he moves so, well, maybe you move like the wind it is something I've seen you move that Christopher cross on. Terry shy couldn't move better than you. You really can. There was days where I was like, man. I'm tired, I thought about you. Are you standing there? Your socks off mushrooms. We took measuring. Good man. We do we don't have agreement and also, you do need to repercussions for fucking blowing it on. Forget, I'm the only one that ran a marathon that wasn't. Lord too. But it doesn't seem like you are willing to face reality. Tell me what reality is face of reality is ours. You didn't work out at all the way and even did Thon, Ari Asia Feerick didn't work out at all? Decade, a Corinth. He smoked you like. Ago, anything in life and not just like okay. Talking shit. Ari didn't work out for ten years. I mean only one that came in with a challenge. Get fucking. What did you sit to expect you ever seen the video of him on my fucking rowing machine? I saw. I saw. I get it. Here's the deal, we teamed up again, this listen to. He's my second place guy. How do we team? I literally he's he was gone. Give me my competitor day off. That's true. I did. I I've said I've said ad nauseam. We're not covering this nauseam. Tugging on Joe's Tigers tales of big mistake was massively surprising. Tom was fair. Fair competitor. Now, I will say I am just giving up ideas of what to do. Next October, I need ideas, and I believe that Ari's idea was, I think us not doing something is not fun to follow. If you are a fan of the podcast us not doing, like, hey, guys, let's sleep wouldn't be really fun. It would it would be, how many hours of hip hop, dancing, we put in there we go number talking about something. Why hip hop dancing klezmer name, what name it? You guys wanted to river Bucknell dance. Assistant dance. It sucked when it was invented dancing. Five forty two thirty. Labor to San San other idea. I'm in, I'm in, but like I liked what we did was with the hot Yola. The easiest thing to do is something that you don't need a lot to like take with you, or you know what I mean. Like things not bad. I'm not running a lot. I do right. Glenn running. But I don't wanna be the one sitting here promoting running. I'm trying to think of the box runs a great idea. It really great about running is that if we did do it for the whole total miles of the month. It would get savage problem. Do we get hurt? Could you what burn I will seriously lose, like forty pounds. Gone. Guys, you just. Marathon a day Joe. Well, I think it's physically possible to do a marathon a day. I know you well, your for me than for you. Yeah. Much easier. Once again, moon, I'm too drunk to even talk. When you looked at me like you're like I'm gonna do that. Are you going to marathon a day? It's not. Not healthy for you to keep living in this world that you've created okay doesn't even make sense. What are you talking about my drinking or my no, no? That's normal say drinking along with this proclamation of awesomeness. You know what I'm saying? It's like this is not the dress drinking's fun. It's fun. You're running. Thing is you need to be punished if you lose. Bert make sense. We got way more there's a whole table, full whiskey over there. And then we got to kill it here to running that if everyone if everyone agrees on run some it's gonna get ugly. Guys runs ugly. I'm going to do a marathon. What are we gonna wear to track are so that everybody has the same thing to try the shoe? Well, you could wear the rock shoe or you could just get an apple watch. No, no, no. But I could you? You have to watch only for phone calls, and then talk into it. If you have a send text messages, and that'll do ours challenge at the same time so we are need for social media for the month. So wait, hold on running on an iphone, we'll do as many miles as we can for the month. The whole thing would be, how many miles can you run in a month and Mattel, you I'm gonna open up the first day with thirty thirty thirty Monday was gonna open up. Yeah. Are we talking day day? Can you here's the thing because earlier mentioned day that, that part, I believe I do believe that is this, this makes a huge difference. Yeah. Can cause if we're tracking those miles we all have to track the miles, we track them out the same. We're, we're track the mile the with the same app. No. No growth hormone, no test. Great. All right. All right. Grow. But you should get off high blood pressure medication before you get on anything. What you should go yourself first, and then figure out the rest. As large as your. Hold on. You got all the way down to twelve or something like that way. I have impulse problems. Did you get up to on this tour? Tom. No tell you a secret. Showed it was such a fucking, discussing Bishop Burt Burgos was show for Shropshire Denmark shellfish reaction in Denmark. That's larry. Hold on. Okay. Wait, wait. No, this important for the challenge. So we all we all have to track the miles the same way. This is is there going to be a stipulation that these miles can only be tracked outdoors on pavement. Yes because treadmill. GPS treadmills not gonna show, anything GPS it has to be movement. Actually go move Mead. We're talking about. No no just distance. There's a by recent at track walking. Takes longer to walk a mild under run a mile. Walk on. Day because, you know, you should be if you're tired, and you're running, and you wanna walk for a mile, that's fun. You remember the Walker all distant walk around several, you know, Silverlake Walker this looked like a fucking lizard. He just walk around sober late dude. He would walk. Yeah. From six AM, and you would see him at eight PM schizophrenic. He was a doctor. Yes. Either is like a little scandal or he died in this hot tub. So we, you would see this guy in a hawk desk somewhere there. That's him. So he would just walk around trying to sling dick. I dunno slings. He would hold the newspaper I used to see this. Yes. All day. Oh. It said click on that lower. Picturing, it said he killed himself who you're that killed himself. Yeah. Oh my God. That's wow. This is killed himself. L A corner concludes. Yeah, see there, but that wasn't initially the report of story story, the that it was a mystery. How this guy had died. There was a mystery solve. About. Yeah. Yeah. Can I tell especially who says the coroner, okay? Toenails driveway of what you did there. Can I tell you this? They're pretty. He is Tony was painted. There are pretty Scott like, really beautiful. I'll take a picture. Kathleen, and Kathleen Madigan click McGee Calgary can I tell you this I was late for the stand about a year ago. In the stand was still open. And I was like fucking star running. I was at second. I was at sixteenth street and second avenue, I started running it eventually, I was out of steam, I had to stop and only stop, that was a sixteenth street, not yet to third avenue. So I, I out under a block who's, oh, but that's just joined the idea of going into this just to run. Last year. Took you got into a fucking zone zone a runway. Wayne at one point runners body. There was a moment somewhere around week when you said, I gotta go. Gotta go hunting. I'm off line for second. I'm close. Yeah, I had to go hunting, for, but I shot a elk on the second day. Tries you came back. We have been a little more like you would have been a little easier on us. If you had I hunted for five days, but I was wearing my thing hiking. I got six hundred points, one working out hiking. Heart. Didn't use the fuck up. You're going to pain. More than that. Yeah. Can you put yourself as in a day on one day it's going to happen? I did nine hundred and then I came in here worked out for another hour after it was done. So I did. I was I was hurting that last thing. Okay, october. Eighteenth you wait you're gonna wake up and you go fuck. I have to just run a bunch now. Hey Christine is like, let's hang out. I know I know. No, it's not. A bad month. And you're all going to die of cool with it. Does that too? Probably for second for Saint for I probably I, but maybe second spectacular teams outrageous, that I'm going to be getting growth. Do this, right? To be gross. Love to do growth. I gotta go do that. That you should definitely some weight. Shouldn't just get on stuff. You should stop drinking so much speaking. It's going to be easy to do Austrailia. You're not gonna drink it all about you. Fifteen to twenty when you're over there. You definitely won't drink. I mean, they don't even like drinking and Australia set. A good example dog cont? Exception. Gauhar to maybe you're not doing this fucking cut up coke. We're doing tonight. You're for sure. Yeah. You're gonna have to shoot. He's over there. You're gonna have to drink beer. The shoe on TV. Pull up. Burton. Picture. Seen it. Yeah. I like running just, I'm cool with it a coup of coolness social media, you're one, you're in to his own thing. Again. I'm the only one that came up with an idea that was fun. It was I jumped on board with it. Man. I think is a good idea. I told you I like I like it. I like the hip. In terms of none of us have any experience with him. That's great. Judging part is a true project parts of real problem. It's, it's an untenable issue. You're going to bring in these people, and they're going to the reason why thought Burt one yet the fuck outta here. You're right about that flick Atta here from different starting points gave a mixture point to that you bird food, you, you can't win like that. If you're gonna win it's going to be you have to win. And that's what you're scared of scared of usually straight up something wins, for sure. Sure. Definitely under percent. I love that you have would Redline into my brain where you, you can tell you can see what I are racy anxiety forming. I could see a forming in the air above years. The order, do the running thing. Go ahead. We get I. Okay, promoter get second. Third. What's it promoted name again? Was this. The one guy, the only us only. I came in here today, picking tell you guys out. You're doing it. All right. We did mushrooms, you can't go, you are doing doing motions with for the show might have been the fucking best way to start this show. Feels good. To do that, November, my whole body's Tinguely. It's like a nice from high. It's like it's it makes you realize what you really like about mushroom, November third off. Are we? Are we gonna do it gave together before of us? Yes. Should be here. We're going to be what defy fry back in November November fourth. You know what we should do? What New Yorker week we could people down. Okay. Are you still doing winters on here? You're still doing winter. New York jobs. I could do. I could do show. I know venue. Places suggest. So are you not coming out this way at all? No, I, I come would be fun if we decide the four decided to destination, like. From some crazy thing in Vegas, but doesn't really. Though, accessible to you know, we should do summer do some shit. That's like that. You don't normally hit on a tour like somewhere in Wyoming. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Voisey. I love boys, boys. Maybe we could do something in, like guy, Boise loco. Yeah. Mexico, New Mexico, not Mexico. Mexico, pro New Mexico. I had called her on on the podcast the day. That's where I. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's super Mexican. He's a border patrol guys who's describing the whole cartel wars showed all went down. While always happening, right? When he signed up to be a cop, and he basically became a paramilitary operator like Jesus just trying to fuck and deal with shit. That was going down the border. Try take that base it out. So it's crippled. Trying to get greedy about Montana. Are we talking about destination? Just hang out. Show to show and hang out. Are we say November November November? As there. Who? All right. Well, let's see. Like skiing. That's when people go there for November's the season ready for sure. Time in New York. No one in Big Sky, Saturday. You're going to be there anyways, Saturday. It's known in Big Sky. He's going to be that. We can anyway, in New York, New York November, third off is my only weekend from stand up all all great. Right. After that week. And you come back. Well, we, by the way, we could just do a comedy club to who gives a fuck. Really fun man. Get charged so normal Bertrand. Usually. I know. Yeah, motor, I've never. My hands. You don't do that anymore. I've never charged greet mind tire life. That's his never once. I do. I do raffle. People that do. Gross to, but I but you know what teaches own? Do it. I got it. Marlins for three on running. Is that really going to be? What we did last. Plenty of time now. Agree to something just because it's like fucking time is running under the podcast. Okay. Running. Hip hop dancing, and obviously, my for sure. Weird. This ruminate mellitus right here. I do like it. So pretty Burt would you. By the gods? Who made that you what is the company that made it pro-am belts, pro-am bell? Can you add add on the shows a bunch of pills on the side? Yeah. No, we'd no booze. That's all there is, is try to keep it clean list. Is it looks nice about you're going to have it? You haven't November. I for sure. Listen, I'm I'm well aware of the training needs to go into this do running. No. I personally think some sillier would be benefit us with whatever you guys pick, because you happy coming in last with no consequences. Learn how to board. Are you are you saying, you'll win their way no matter what it is just comes in last, and it doesn't matter. That's the thing all this shit. He rows he up. And I'm saying this is a guy who won. It's not it's not it's not right. Wait. How about the million dollar? Are you gonna do the million dollars? Promote us not right. It's not right. It's like fake bragging bullshit. I believe in my own fucking abilities. That's the truth, that's horrific. I believe the moment thing. Thing you leave in my own abilities. I believe myself Las Vegas will open the action on this, this year, we might be able to get them to do. I, I know how many beyond this running challenge. He does want every day today. Not three hundred seven mile for three seven. On that fucking bullshit. Awesome. So hard runners, assault, runner. I, I used to hate it. Now that's gonna get you in shape for the real running that you have to do when you come in last. Because that is harder. Wait, wait. Those things are harder than running. It's like fifteen percent or thirteen percent. You didn't do. Coming second again. You think so? Yeah, we'll come in second. He'll get crazy. The kind of. Are you guys know because in I've done jitsu together? So I know how competitive he gets when you fighting for your life, which is what you're doing when you introduced, so you know, what guys got inside of them are fears, a little savage life and running is the little different. No, no, no no, no mind. That's why. Second. I knew he was gonna come in second. When we did this. So Rocco everything. Yeah. Running gets crazy with stuff. Switch it over Burt. He doesn't his and give up. I o. Let god. Already setup what the only thing that's not settled. But you're right. That's not good for you. Good. It's not good to talk shit. And then never listen talk shit. And then just to say, wait, what is the. Big numbers. I am kinda McGregor. No. Sometimes you talk shit and you lose. Conor. Sometimes you talk shit, and you lose okay, what's the. You just said, I'm Conor McGregor. Gigging knocked out Josie Aldo Conor McGregor was gonna pick one person on this podcast. Get behind. Who do you think would be be real? Gems weird. He. What he would do. Can I? Let's see. Let's how this is what Connor, would they got him on mushrooms, if there was if there was an audience, he would get them all going about how it's you. And then when it's like press the button to vote, right? Then he would go Joe. On rogan. He likes to just like him. Do you think he would lose money just because you like you get drunk? It's good points. Good question he loses money because he loves that you brag, and then fall down and then get back. A man who is his liver. I think with my heart Bert. What is the punishment? You. We all grew but I'm saying, let's say let's start with you. Come in last. What is the punishment for coming for coming name it a million dollars? Happy right now. Crossley. Hey ring. My ten row coming in. Landis knows happy's looking forward to it before you comfortable looking forward to coming in last in front of a fireplace. Curled up. No. Nope. Nam. It's not a million dollars name look at them do this whatever's wrong with me, but ever got me into comedy things that are wrong with me. This is the base of it right here. I shut my therapist on there, because content I believe I genuinely. I believe in myself in this moment, that's great. I genuinely believe myself that you do that. I believe that you believe even percent a hundred think you also know on some level coming fourth in anytime. I don't know. But I'll tell you I'll be very honest. Yeah. I believe in myself, and there's something wrong with Joe. I know that Ari has this fucking I've no interest in Gehrig's disease already. Already. That's already whatever it has. Mickey mantle. And I know that Tom is to call me on the last Tango, who you're done running. Right me. You're not gonna throw me of the boss on this one. Doing the last day. Call them. I called him on a treadmill from the gym, and I was like I was moving. I was like, are you doing? He was like I swear, and then I he's doing. He goes, I'm with my family right now. I'm with my kids. I heard like kids, laughing and roasting thing. I stayed on that. I was like, I still on some part of my mind doesn't believe you. I didn't believe stayed on. I stayed on. And he goes, I swear to you done and I stayed in that Jim probably forty minutes. He's still put up good numbers that day. But I did go like couldn't do it. It was a weird thing that rate about until you flew across the country know did did I tell you that. Yes. So about it. What I loved about it is that we were seeing everybody's numbers. He's high on. Thinking can't we start slow had like an art? You did five miles call for the day. No. To go into the dark place. Here's what I'm well aware of. Give you the cards in my hand right now. I've run twenty six miles a day. And I know the Joe's first day of run twenty six miles is gonna put him back for a couple of really hard to go right into that, not to, to. He's going to try to start an October. First more on. No, I know. I know I know. But I know for now to leave. To leave this place is start if we make running, if that's the agreement I'm going to get down to one hundred and eighty pounds. I'm gonna lose twenty two hundred. Do that. Nobody like in your head. Twenty pounds thirty done. Yeah. Boost twenty pounds. And I'm going to run start off like ten I'll do like ten every other day. And then by the time Octo ramps around, I'll be doing a marathon, a day it's going to suck. It's going to suck. He'll, he'll do that everyday. Yeah. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to show Bert with the fuck is up. And then I'm not gonna talk to many more. I don't like how the end. Block his number just like I can't do this anymore. More falling. All right. This shouldn't be fun. Fun. Shouldn't be fun. She'd be terrifying, last year was terrified say is if I come in last this year, and there's all these fucking repercussions, and then he came in Lhasa ahead, nothing wrong with that, right? Super unfair. It's unfair. Right, right. No, no rep because someone should punish you, you should be punished Bert. How do I punish? Last. So give me a punishment. I'm cool. Yeah. Yeah. Eat your own shit. How much Jesus Christ Earl shit? What happens? I don't know. You just give us each three hundred grand. Fuck. Can I just say that? I'm going to be Columbus next weekend as well. Come out of that place. Even bigger, right? Don't you? Come see my show, just don't do such a great club, Columbus. Yeah. It's great club. It's a great town for stand up to not as good as the met, July twenty seventh and Philly. Oh my God. Dancing, a shitload of dates tomorrow. Yeah. No, I can't don't know where I'm going Wales June twenty-fifth for our fear arguing dot com, all of them will be nnounced tomorrow put, but I got some days coming to your pre-sales still a hundred tickets left for Chicago this weekend to Chicago some arena. Jesus to Rogan I-word, Chicago in salads. And they were like this is fucking super sweet the salad. And then we asked them lady, like she couldn't believe it when, like did you put sugar on the salad. She was like his it to sweep for you. Why would you. We looked around the Finnish person look like Bert. It was like everybody was massive day loved that fat deep dish pizza. Those are hardy mid west folk. Yeah, I'd love to go. Yeah. I love Chicago. Yeah. But they put sugar on their salads. Shook her in the south one moment. Take a break. Nope. Get into for this extra. Pop pop. Yeah. More sugar unchallenged sugar or you playing their math place some big ass place. Is it different than how different is it than the store was different? Yeah. Explain to people that haven't seen a small hundred seat room to thrive six thousand. But here's the problem is the same material you're gonna put on a special. Yeah. Delivered six thousand people realize you're doing to one person on the couch. Is it like do you different kind of show? You find yourself talking louder or stuff like that. It's different. I mean, if you're there, it's fun. But I don't think it would translate correctly, if you're at home. And that's one of the reasons why I think, like I did my last one at the Wilbur, which is pretty tight. It's like three comedy club stacked. On top of each other eleven hundred seats, but it's pretty intimate like the people are on top of you. I think that's how you supposed to do comedy at a special because specials. It's hard to be in that room and I been saying, I don't see if you agree with me. I think that a special is only at its best, like, maybe eighty percent of what it's like. Really be in the room because you missed the feeling of being in the crowd. And I try to get my shoots and I haven't ever got as close as possible to love experience, but you can see a show Mexican restaurant on Tuesday with a bunch of amateurs, and you'll laugh you'll laugh harder than watching any of our specials alone in your apartment. Yeah, comedy, you really being there live. It's amazing. Makes it a lot of comics mess up, and they do their special for the room and they go, like, what's up? What's up here? The place. I'm at dove a cat Williams. The best part of a special was the ten minutes. He did on the Hassi or Josh Jackson hard, disagree. Big fucking cat Williams fan that. Claim stuff. But we talked about that about doing it not for the room for the people count shoot a special tax. You got the special going massive, these massive massive room. But then when people are going to your special, almost all of them are watching like, really special in a big room do, it's like less than thousand. I'm thinking of doing at the ice house. I've been thinking about doing that. I'm pretty far out of doing a special, I'm at least a year away from you and thinking about it. I think the most important thing about the special is doing in a place that has not seen you do stand up. That's the number one most important thing I would do a special at the store, I would find that to the mistake, because you're there, all the time, even working material to those FOX, your head up. What about the people? Well, I get on the level of, like some of the jokes are surprised ending and they kind of like, no, it's going there, right? You don't wanna do. You don't want to do a special for people that have seen this material ever, you want, those people to never seen material the same way, the people that are home. 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The Best Walt Disney World and Disneyland Attraction Songs - Episode 55

Disney Discussions Podcast

1:15:25 hr | 8 months ago

The Best Walt Disney World and Disneyland Attraction Songs - Episode 55

"Welcome to Disney discussions this happy place. Welcome Captain Jack Sparrow. Many is val. I'm twelve years old and my favorite Disney Darker detraction parts of the Caribbean. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Moons family I am Sich. I'm nine years old and my favorite Disney dark ride is some doors monitoring Super Calif wretched listening. Xp Only hope that we never lose sight of one thing that was all started by a month technical. Y'All started with the rabbit. Antoni that my favorite Walt Disneyworld. Dark right is splash mountain along in for ha welcome to episode fifty five of Disney Discussions Disney discussions as a family. Friendly podcast or me Tony. The Disney data my two boys. Pharaoh discuss all things Disney this week. We discussed the best Disney attractions song. So welcome I want to mention right off the bat. This episode is sponsored by character signatures autograph books. 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You have anything else you WANNA talk about before we get into our main topic. Which is the Best Disney attraction songs? What do you WanNa talk about the big news? Hold off anything else. Besides the big news my birthday and dad's birthday coming soon. That's true your March first on February. Twenty six so. We're very excited about that. We're going to great Wolf Lodge celebrating our birthdays. That'd be fun to celebrate my birth. Yes well we'll celebrate there all right so we do have some big news as sparrow pointed out. Want to say go ahead. We have a trip planned to Disney Brock Tober six to the thirteenth while Disneyworld finally going back. It's been a while actually been for. It'll be when we there. It'll be almost four years since we last went and other we did. Do Champ Dan podcast. That's right and it's our first time going during Halloween time. Yeah which is exciting. We're ninety nine percents. Sure GonNa do the Halloween Party which we've never done which is exciting. So per se is also a big tank. Twin one flaw. We have a new baby cousin so that might be. We'll see we'll see what happens. So we're going with Nanny and poppy and uncle. So there's eleven of US going so we're gonNA have future episodes kind of talking about how we're planning for the trip what we're GONNA do Details where we'RE GONNA stay. I don't WanNa reveal that just yet so. We're very excited about that. Like I said it's been almost four years since we went. We went on a Disney cruise a year and a half ago which was awesome and we loved it but we really want to go back to Walt Disney world. There's lots of new stuff that we have never experienced from Avatar toy story land a galaxy's edge and Mickey Minnie's will be open by then runaway. Well Ray so we're really excited about that. All right you guys anything else. No all right. Let's get into the main topic topic the Best Disney attraction songs. I asked us. And if you've our podcast friends which you'll hear throughout the episode talk about some of their favorite Disney attractions songs This one for sure and I heard for everyone. This was a hard decision to make because there are so many good songs. So I'm going to have sparrow. Go I just mentioned one of your favorite Disney attraction songs and then some some fun facts about it. Okay one of my favorite Disney attractions songs is. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow from careful progress. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow dining at the end of every day. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Tomorrow's just a dream it was written by the Sherman brothers for the attraction in nineteen sixty four world's fair and then I have a story about the actual song and how it was changed a lot throughout the ride. So in nineteen seventy four. The sponsor of the show commissioned a theme song that was known as the best time your life it was also run by the Sherman Brothers. But then in nineteen eighty. Two they commissioned a third song from a Sherman brothers called New Horizons but they didn't use it because the sponsor CEO wrote a song instead which everybody hated though wrote yes and then when they dropped sponsorship of Carousel of progress in Nineteen eighty-six the newer song remained until nineteen ninety-three and then Disney brought back. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow which is used today. The other song is not the one zero but the other one now is the time. You're the best time of your life is actually a pretty song too time. Life is on your eyes. Watch how you know. The time now is the best time. Maybe I shouldn't sing. I just heard like five people stop listening to broadcast a good song but obviously shared just five probably more well. We only have six listener so again stopped listening. Sorry but great. Big Beautiful Tomorrow is also my pick for my favorite attraction song. I love that song. I just love how it ties. The whole story together There's a great video online. I'll put in the show notes of the Sherman Brothers with Walt Disney singing that Song. And you'll there's going to be a theme throughout here. The Sherman Brother Brothers wrote a lot of great Disney attraction songs. And I've always wondered. Is it the chairs that are moving or the scenery that are moving? It's the chairs Looks like the seat you think the stage moving but we're actually moving kinda creepy creepy. It's crazy it's weird I just WanNa comment that. I do not have a piously for me on my list cause I do not like that song third. We'll get into that when we mentioned it. Let's hear from Kaitlyn Patrick from the earful. Podcast about why they love the great big beautiful tomorrow saw. Hi this is Caitlyn. Patrick from earful Disneyworld podcast and we heard today to talk to you about our favorite Disney world attraction song. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow from the carousel progress. We Love We. That is our Goto when we are in magic kingdom. If it's hot if it's cold that's our Goto to sit. Relax and make each other giggling crazy. Absolutely we say things on that ride to ourselves. That's highly inappropriate highly rewrite the entire narration of the ride. It aided in the kind of the way the story has is unfolding so when we go and sit down we make sure there's nobody around snaps children no adults around us now and that we giggle like small school children the entire time entire right. Yeah and don't stand up. During the ride we learn that. If you touch those doors somebody will will kill you exactly. We had we wrote at one time and somebody got up and multiple higher opening. That ride halted and a voice came on and said if you don't sit down the right will continue to pause and we cannot go on. The issue was every time somebody got up. The ride was start over that scene again again. So then guess what had happened three or four times people getting mad and getting up and leaving and every time someone would open. The door would start over at the beginning again. No there's kate an eye on the floor laughing hysterically because we have to watch the same thing over and over again we loved and again a great big beautiful tomorrow was on Luke Luke. Twenty three times in a row starting. We haven't even gotten to the first room yet with loved the dysfunctional family. Anyway this song was written by the Sherman Brothers Richard and Robert and they are very famous in Disney Lor also having written music for Mary poppins and a lot of other while it was originally written for a world's fair correct nineteen sixty four sixty seven sixty seven was yesterday around that time because it was at the world fair and then the attraction moved to Disneyland in sixty seven and then eventually moved to Disneyworld in nineteen seventy five and when they wrote this. They kind of viewed this theme song as Waltz Theme Song because of his outlook and optimism for the future and the original singer of the song was Rex Allen who also the father but that is not who we know and love today because that person was replaced a little while later because of some sponsorship things which the singing or the speaking both. Yeah both so. It was originally REX Allen. That names very familiar to me up to that one later. Yup and then the song was briefly replaced by a new theme song called the best time of your life but this came back our beloved. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow. Came back in ninety three. And all this was due to sponsorships change so when when new sponsors took over they requested a new song and this one got put to the wayside and again these sponsors had a wonderful opportunity because every one of these scenes had a kitchen or had a bedroom eve. Torius Lee had so many spots in it and the ride has more change a ton over the years. Yeah so then. When it was brought back in ninety three they recorded the song with a brand new voice cast featuring Jean Shepherd as the father from Christmas story. Oh Yeah so yeah. He became the father's voice and also sang it. And he's the person that we know and love today so there was also. This song was also included at Disneyland even after the ride left at innoventions and this was in nineteen ninety eight they used parts of the song along with the animatronic host called. Tom Morrow tomorrow which was voiced by Nathan Lane very cool one of your favorite singing groups of all time they might be giants. They recorded their own version for the film meet the robinsons. Listen to listen to that absolutely and ESPN even used it in college signing day commercial and it was also used in two thousand fifteen disney movie tomorrowland. It's also used in our podcast as the theme song for your podcast. Disneyworld Disneyworld podcast. It was written and reproduced by our very own. Kate that's right. You added in really made version under voice. You will hear playing a little bit throughout this clip so you can definitely hear that anyway. Yeah if you'd like to tune into our show again we're called earful Disneyworld podcasts available on all podcast platforms and by all means. Let us know when you're going to be there? We'll come down and just write that one right with you and you can listen to our banter but you can't be offended. You just keep your cats right so thank you for thank you to the Disney discussions five gas for having us on and we hope you all have a great big beautiful tomorrow by that Lien Harass Them. All right good picks barrel yes stitch. What is your pick for favorite attraction? It's a small other people. Turn off our podcast. 'cause you're singing but because of the song all right. Let's let's see one person to stop listening to. Let's only me must listening to us now. Do demand that she doesn't even listen. Let's hear some facts about it's a small world was written by the Sherman brothers. Obviously it's the most played song in the world. Will John Oop that a long time? And this song was using the nineteen ninety four Disney moving. The Lion King was Ozzie. The bird started seeing. Is singing it to scar and scar almost eaten for lunch. Yes so the Sherman brothers are asked to do a song this the it's a small world. The only had I think ten months to work on this for the world's fair very short amount of time. So Walt Disney Asks them to create a song and the original thought was to have each country's anthem national anthem. Play as you go around but when they did that it just sounded terrible like they overlapped with each other. Yeah it was. It was an awful sound so Walt Disney came to them saying I need one song can easily translate into many languages and be played around the Sherman brothers. Then wrote it's a small world after all in the wake of the nineteen sixty two Cuban missile crisis which influenced the song's message of peace and brotherhood when his first presented to Walt. They played it as a slow ballot. Walt requested something more cheerful so they sped up the tempo and sang in counterpoint. And what was so delighted that the final result that he renamed the attraction. It's a small world after the song was originally going to be called children of the nation of the nation's Yep. That's pretty cool. It's a great song. Sorry I know Jenny from The Disney Dana. Podcasts hates the song I do too. They're not big fans but it's the most played song in the world world plays all day and then also plays all night nonstop. Let's hear from Tom. Michelle from the hyperion. Adventure podcast about some of their favorite Disney attraction songs. Well Hello Tony Spero stitch. Thanks so much for inviting us to be apart once again of the Disney discussions podcast. We're really honored and really appreciate this opportunity. Yeah this is so we'd love your show. We are honored that we get to be just like Michelle said and we can't wait to talk about one of our favorite topics as a matter of fact absolutely. Yeah Disney attraction song so there are so many great ones to choose from. Actually we've been pondering this for a while and we keep hemming and Haworth and trying to figure out which one is our favorites. But it's really tough because there are so many great ones there are and you know. I'm sure that there's a lot that are pretty common to a lot of people and we tend to try to go a little bit Outside of the box well you do. Straitlaced laced straightforward to the normal things. Pretty much you know. I'm very vanilla. Michelle she's all colors of the rainbow. She likes all things. I'm sure hers will be very interesting. So let's get to it. What Michelle what is your favorite Disney attraction song? Well I really did. Take a lot of time to think about this. And you know Disney is based on people's personal experiences and how they enjoy. The park is based on on what they have had as their journeys in that and for me going to Disney world. For the first time I was pretty young and I really remember my very first attraction was it's a small world and I know that some people if they didn't go to the parks for the first time until they were older or as an adult they might think oh small world pretty corny but to me. It's just very symbolic getting back to being a kid and having that permission to go into the park here that song and like yes. I'm a kid again and I'm going to see this park through. Kids is and that's one of my favorite attractions song. I love it. I love the reasoning behind it. There are some people out there who will tell you. Oh I it just gets in your head and you can't get it out and everything but I think it's kind of something that is great about it and I do like the meaning behind it and the thought behind it and so and I appreciate your story for why it is the one that you love so much. Yeah and it has a lot of history with the with. There's no question parks yeah. There's no question about that. That's for sure as for me. Let's see here. I had a tough decision to remain. Because there's so many great ones you think about you know the Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki. Big Beautiful Trauma Rose You. There's so many wonderful ones but I just went back to one of my favorite actually my favorite attraction at both Disneyland and at Walt Disneyworld goes back to the haunted mansion in grim grinning ghosts. You know when that song kicks and it's just so fine and it just is the attraction for me I love grim grinning ghosts You know it is it. Is it like a big hit? That's GONNA chart no but it's just a lot of fun in and I think that's what they attraction is. It's supposed to be kind of spooky but it must be kind of fun and I believe that's what that song is so I basically went to my favorite attraction and the song from it so that makes sense. It is a fun song and you know. I think that also evokes a lot of fun feelings for a lot of people and their families. So yeah choice. It's another classic news written by some of the imagine ears that actually worked on it so very cool anyway. Thanks again guys. We really love your show and we really appreciate you thinking of us and inviting us to be on it so thanks again guys appreciate it. We'll be right. So they mentioned small world and then they mentioned grim dirty ghosts from the haunted mansion. So I'll talk about this one. This is one of my favorites too little spooky but not too scary. It was composed by Buddy Baker with lyrics by X. ASENSIO. Who's a name that you'll hear later on as well? He was imagine near for Walt Disney and wrote the scripts for haunted mansion as well as the lyrics to the song. The title comes from a William Shakespeare's poem Venus and Adonis. Our talking about William Shakespeare just wanted to say a quick facts about him go for that. He invented some words that we actually use today about two thousand of them. He invented lonely excellent and almost two thousand others. Oh and another. That is your history for apart the podcast. This this podcast is good for more than just Disney. If you be learning on as excited for me no I I was. I was hoping we would get through a whole episode of that. The Fox guy coming in I vote somebody so he did. Which which songs did you write? I wrote Some of them. Oh okay good good job. I helped him. Oh really even though you work for Fox you wirt in the sixty s on the songs. Wow you don't look that old. Yeah good for you. How'd you get in here again? The bookshelf a book. You were hiding in the bookshelf. You can you. Can You. Even get sparrow back in here please. I mean you'd have to yell into the microphone. Where did you go? You go to the bathroom in the Fox comes in L. getting water. Oh you're not allowed to leave your seat again. I don't want facts coming back all right. Let's hear from rob from the Jedi Temple Archives about his favorite Disney attraction salt. Hey there Tony Sparrow and stitch. This is rabble Berry from the Jedi Temple Archives. Podcasts and I am winging today on the question that Tony had thrown out there about what Disney attraction song is actually my favorite. And why so for me as you can probably already tell from some of the background music. I've got plan here. It would have to be grim. Grinning goes from the haunted mansion Not only is that particular attraction just an iconic Disney attraction. It's one of those attractions and no matter. How many times I ride it. I still catch myself Kinda Bop into the beat of the music And really getting into that. It's such an integral part of that. Attractions one zero. So never get tired of the haunted mansion. Now that I've actually had the opportunity to see it at both. Walt Disney world and Disneyland Resort It really is just increased. My love of it. I was fortunate enough to get to see the attraction with the nightmare before Christmas. Overlay this past. September out at the Disneyland Resort and It's just everything that is great about Disney attraction. So hope you guys enjoy the show? Thank you so much for including me in this a male your haunts be happy. The charity a terrific every time. no boy. This can get old fast every single time thing. Something you're next time. Don't worry curl all right. What's number two on your list number? Two on my list is you're listening to seek ye room in the tiki room. Yes we have never seen this attraction. But I've heard the song and it really like. Of course it was also written by the Sherman Brothers who it was rain in nineteen sixty three before goo great big beautiful tomorrow and small world and this song was first written for an audio animatronic attraction it was the first Disney Song. Run for an audio animatronic attraction. They're very cool. I love the song again. We'll do this on our next trip because I want to make sure we do this but we want with something. I'm getting. Oh we actually have live audio from the Tiki Room Right now. Let's let's cut to that. Yeah Oh. My says are getting shorter and shorter. Oh look all the people welcome to Walt Disney's enchanted tiki room. Hakin and me Amigo pay attention. Joe Time so it is and what Darlan people we have listening. Don't Ramona me. I am always ready to put on a show and we better start the show rolling. Wait wait we've got to wake up the Glee Club. Mm-hmm take take take take it off the flowers. Welcome to our tropical hideaway. You lucky people you here. We are talking about chanted tiki room which we say is one of the Best Disney world attraction songs are pick for best song for the Disney discussion. Podcast so here we are. Give our thoughts on that for me. It's it's one of my favorite shows. Actually I just love it. It's nostalgia and just I loved the tropical theme. The animatronic are just so fun but there is something to be said about the song and the reason why we picked this was not just for like the show and the fun the puns and all that but the song itself. Yes I mean. There's no denying how catchy it is. Oh yes soon as you sing one line of it. It has stuck in your head for the better. I mean yes. I don't mind walk around the park the rest of the day singing that song because it's catchy puts me in a good mood. Oh Yeah it's like a Lotta Sherman brothers songs which it doesn't I don't think it has a lot of the same style as great big beautiful tomorrow or the. Mary poppins songs or anything that he's so like a conic for their so kind of for doing but it has the same catchiness to them. And there's something about it. I mean it does. Is You know a product of its time in the sixties where it's just you just think of kind of a hideaway or like it's. Kinda like the dirty dancing in a way like people. Just it's hard to explain but getting together like in a lounge type situation like wanting to sit and watch these kind of cheese tiki cocktail lounge in the sixties. I get it and it's you know it's definitely a product of that era and it's also something that helped create and I love the humor in it. I mean the whole show has humor but the song in particular on the way kind of introduced the main character birds who are singing and we've seen show. We are lucky enough to not have ever seen the under new management which which maybe other guests on Disney discussions who picked different songs White Tiki room out of their memory because of that experience but I was never tainted by that my childhood Tiki Room and I have my adult tiki room. And they're both basically in the same some subtle changes but yeah so yeah and I mean for me also since I didn't go to Disney till much later in life. I don't know it's like there's that it was just you know when all the birds light up all starts singing like this. It's a moment of magic especially is kind of outdated and you can hear all the details but it's just a moment of magic and it just so much fun comes alive like it definitely has Disney magic. Are they doing stuff? Nowadays that's cooler and more impressive. Sure but but maybe not at the same level of charm. This show has a delight for the senses. It's just I know we're talking about the song specifically but in the attractions like the lights up. Get all the music. But the song the reason we picked the song as that captures all of that essence that you're talking about we're GonNa talk about any of the Re Re mixes well. I do think that that's worth bringing up so tony on. We do not sure if this is a contest but if it were we would like to throw tiki room into the ring. Not just as the show song that you get but all the remix says that it has spawned and if you've not heard the Hillary Duff Remix for instance. Well you need to get on. It's it's tastefully awful Yeah my sixteen year olds really loves it and actually I probably heard that song the Tiki room for the first time. Five Hillary Duff and even so I thought it was a great song. Get you dancing. Get your shoulders move in and Shimmy shake the ticketing sticking Yup. Oh look at all you take you take. Los Lobos doesn't version Wayne Brady. We just found out that the virgin incredible youtube videos. So you have to go and watch that but my personal favourite like I love hearing this song with like these instrumental. Remix IS I want to call it. A remix instrumental versions but they are different. That you hear on like the Disney Resort Channel But my favorite one is the magic kingdom entrance loop has this like instrumental tiki room. That's just steal kettle drums and like this. Calypso vibe to it and it warms my heart it brings me right into the TIKI room. I'm sitting there got my Dole. Yes so and that's the other thing it's just like. How many of these other songs are you sitting there eating your Dole whip while you're listening to it very very few I would say I think this song specifically a does just take you there like other? There's other attracted songs that are great and I love seeing along them but this one. It's like it brings you to the Tiki Room with your Dole whip and it just has. That doesn't five of tropical hideaway. Injured there when you hear it indeed. So I think that about sums up our love for this song and why it was our number one pick. Well thanks for letting US BE. A part of this episode. We were super stoked when we were invited to share thoughts. I think I think I replied with. Oh this is a topic. We feel very strongly about so after deliberation you know we had to come up with a song that Rachel and I both agreed in. This was at the top of both of our lists and so there you have it a true winner. Tiki room. Thanks again Disney discussion for doing this. And for letting us be a part of it if you want to find us get to be a part of your world but if you want to find us and our show were part of our world dot net as you can tell that was not live audio from the parks that was. Keenan and Rachel from podcast. Thank you very much for for putting an end very funny. We were just on their show the Disney Oscars check that out over the Lincoln. The show notes. We presented the best new Disney character of two thousand. Nineteen did not agree with him. But that's all right. It was a great episode. Check that out all right. Tiki room very good song. Next up stitch. What's number two on your to Item List for Best Disney? Hi Ho. It's off to work. We do to dilute the two. I hope yes it is yours mine train. Let's hear some fun facts about. This song was written by Frank. Churchill and Larry Maury not the Sherman brothers and it was made for the movie snow way that came out in nineteen thirty four. I I it's fun. Oh seven doors mine train. You mentioned on top of the podcast. That's when your favorite dark rides favorite dark ride and my favorite right and they fit that song in perfectly. Well I mean top of the PODCASTS. Do you mean beginning. Yeah that's what they call it. The top of the PODCAST. I so I think I mentioned they actually so much in the first episode. We did to. You probably did around the first episode. Absolutely absolutely all right. Let's talk about illumination This is the epcot show that just ended last year created and directed by John. Dorsey the music for this. A lot of people love their music for this. I agree it's one of the great musical pieces of bunch of music in it but it's a really good The way the combined fireworks the show elements in the torches in epcot lasted over twenty. Almost twenty years that shows that should just shows how much people loved it. It was created and directed by John. Dorsey the show premiered on October. First Nineteen Ninety nine as illuminations two thousand reflections of earth as part of The Walt Disney World Millennium Celebration. It was so successful that after the celebration ended in two thousand they dropped the name. They dropped two thousand from the name and just kept going. Garin greenway is the composer for eliminations fractions on earth. So let's hear from Mario from the station. Seventy one podcast about why he loves. Illuminations Hello Disney discussion crew. It's Mario from the station seventy-one podcast. Tony asked me to help you guys out this week by talking a little bit about one of my favorite pieces of music from the Disney parks and IT I. This was a really hard decision but I really had to think about this one. Because there's so many good pieces of music out there in the parks and I was instantly drawn to things like one little spark or it's a small world where there's ear worms they get ingrained in your brain and you can't get them out no matter how many times you ride the attraction or try to do something else. But when I think about Disney parks I think nostalgia. I think memories. I think all of those trips that I took with my family when I was growing up. And all of the memories making in the future by going back and no piece of really kind of signifies that or brings me back to that place like the soundtrack to illuminations. Maybe I'm getting a little bit misty eyed because by the time that this episode comes out it's going to be gone and I'm a little upset about that but for me. I think that this is one of those perfect pieces of music. That's tied in with a spectacular nighttime entertainment show and it's something that I know. When I was younger we would always watch the end of our days. Epcot and for me. I think th that just brings me back to those that place it you back to those trips and all of those times that I took with my family and that's what Disney means to me. I also think that it's very symbolic of the future for Epcot and where the park is headed. The very last song that comes with illuminations as part of the Millennium Celebration is promise. It's on that plays at the very end. When you're leaving the park and you can hear parts of this song refrained throughout the entire elimination soundtrack. Specifically the beats to the will go on parts and I think that the will go on something that everyone needs to remember when it comes to apricot specifically if you look at the way that the parks headed if you look at the direction and the change and all of that stuff it might be a little bit scary especially. This is a part that you love as much as I do. But you have to remember. Things are changing. We're going to invent new ways to build different attractions. We're going to see new things in terms of technology. And that's exciting promises. A very inspiring insightful song when it comes to invention and discovery and it reminds us that we're always moving forward. We have to continue to move forward. And as the sun sets on only nations in Epcot begins. Its changes in the words of promise. We'll go on moving on through the good times and the tears ever on a thousand circles around the sun. New Life has begun. And that's very important to remember these next couple of years. We begin to see all these construction walls go up and have caught starts to take on a new life. There's a lot to be excited about. And I'm I'm happy to have lived through the last couple of years with APP And I just wanted to say before I go. Thank you so much to the Disney discussion crew. For having me on this week and letting me kind of ramble on about this one little tiny song and Epcot. And if you want to hear more from me you can find me on my podcast. Where pretty much anywhere? Podcast found stations. Everyone a Walt Disney world. Podcast or you can find us on our website. Www dot station seventy-one podcast dot com. Thanks so much Disney discussion crew as always. It's been a pleasure well. I liked listening to that. I liked to go some different. We're going back to the original next time all right. Let's talk about another Sherman Brothers Song. I love this song the ride now. Isn't that great? But the song is one little spark so it's from the Imagination Pavilion Journey into magic. Honestly when I went on it and twenty sixteen I hated it. Could this Anouar version is horrible? Yeah the new originals. Not Horrible but it's not great. I wish I'd done the original. People say it's really good. So little spark was the theme Song Journey into machination attraction at Epcot it was written by the Sherman brothers and is still used in still used in the epcot attraction journey into meditation with figment With altered versus sung by figment during the ride. This ride opened on March third nineteen eighty three. So I still enjoy the song even though the rights great. I like figment as a character. I wish It's not on the planes currently for them. Redo the imagination ride But I think eventually they will eventually they will think they're gonNA finish some of the stuff now. I think it will. It might be for cuts fortieth. They might do that but I think they WANNA do. All you know. They're redoing epcot where we go and October. It's going to be a mess that front area. But while after they're done redoing that they visit this right on figment animatronic in this version. Creepy it's creepy. I had nightmares for the rest of the vision until I want on Hollywood Tower of terror than I that for the rest of the show. Let's hear from Matt and Tori from the love of the mouse podcast about their favorite Disney attraction songs. Hey guys this bat and Tori from the love of the mouse podcast here to bring our favorites Disney attraction songs so Tori. Thank you for joining me for this little segment. Oh you're so welcome you on our. She really don't know why. But you have been my Disney travel companion for solid majority. Yes five trips out so you have a general understanding of the music in the Disney parks. Great we've only been to Walt Disneyworld. See I bring a unique perspective because I have the attention span of small squirrel. So we're we'RE GONNA say Squirrel regardless I have a really bad attention span and I'm really bad with picking up detail if I'm not paying attention which is right so in Matt told me that we were going to be doing this. I couldn't think of a single song was yeah. I couldn't think of a single one so we had to literally like I didn't have to. I had to listen to a playlist of songs from different rides or parts of parks attractions or events that go on the Disney parks central. Disney sounds until I found one that US like. Yeah that sounds like that's the one that I like. My choice is happily ever after soldiers. Which is the. I'm sure everyone knows. But it's the the fireworks song and they also play it on the Disney buses. They'll play it. It's like a music video on the magical details. It's really good but I chose happily ever after because it's the only song that I have experience with in the parks that I have been like emotional with and I think that's how I judge most of the music or movies or anything that I- experiences Halley. How I react to it emotionally. It has that kind of impact in every single time. I watch happily ever after the fireworks show. I am like a puddle. So that's why that's my choice. Speaking was also considering this for my choice I had a few in mind and I ultimately went with different option but happily ever after was my top three for sure just because like you said I to get very emotional very happily ever after. I haven't the past couple of times though which is a little odd. But I that we ever saw right. Whenever hunchback of Notre Dame came out and he was singing out there I was like Oh man. I'm done kids here. Eight in the fields. It was it was bad but an awesome way. Yeah I really like for not knowing any of the music okay. Let the record show that I do really like the song and I knew called and I didn't realize that it would count. I thought it was only Songs on rides okay so but this was the first song that I thought of. I just didn't think it would count. Attraction music is is the whole bubble anything that is in the Disney course count. I made sure to ask that at the start. I am in the know. So it's your back so my pig is the reason that I wanted to have you on with me. Because I'm a big defender of this and you are not and I'm not even making eye contact. You already know what it is just by saying that my pig is one little spark from journey into imagination with and I just think the overall meaning of the song is awesome. The ride is not good. Let's preface that is not there is awful. It's the ride is really really bad. At least now I mean children maybe I guess. Oh it's bad all around terrible experience okay. Anyways the original iteration from the nineteen eighties. When Epcot? I opened. I think the meeting of the song really exemplifies what the park stood for apple time and still stands for because they use the song now as the essentially storytelling aspect of APP. Cough forever. The new nighttime show temporary nighttime show at caught forever temporarily but yeah they They're using little spark as the storytelling technique throughout this fireworks show that has replaced eliminations. So just with it really does sum up what means and I love the last lines of the song where it just says a drink and be a dream come true with just that spark media sponsor. That's how three right not to stop everything that's green Cabbie Mondrian spark a so if really brings. You're looking at me like I'm crazy but I'm not. It's it's just Disney. That's like Classic Disney songwriting else's classic dizzy. What's happily ever after after this classic Disney? It's better see you've never seen wishes. Which was the virus show before Napoli Rafter because we didn't start going to Disney world together until two thousand seventeen that was our first trip and happily ever after debut. Actually no you did see wishes not fully or first trip was wishing. Oh we saw it from the bathroom behind the castle. Yeah which you probably wouldn't even recognize the music just here again so no. I don't think I recognize a lot of things you prefer set the beginning of this. I know you have an awful memory. Glad we can joke about it. I'm really thought he wrote a fight. Before on one little spark I think I just glazed over and I died a little as you were speaking. Yeah so all the fight. I just went limp for a minute. Do I truly truly value your opinion however that is a dump choice. No I'm kidding. I really like your reasoning behind it. You obviously do research. I have a grudge against figment. So I'm a little biased. But that is in my experience from what I've seen what epcot and Disney's all about so if you have any final thoughts just going to try to pay attention more so thank you. Tony Stitches Barrow over doing another one of these phone episodes. It's always a blast record these I think this is the fourth or fifth time that I'm going to be on obviously Tori. This is your first time. Thanks for having me probably never be invited back so it's always a blast to do this and help you guys out if you want even more. Disney content. You can follow us on twitter at ltm. Podcast INSTAGRAM AT L. O. T. and podcast at facebook by searching love the mouse podcast and you can also check out. Our website love podcast dot com for olive our previous episodes blog posts photography. Ambler a little bit more about who we are and why we love the mouse. Well WE LEAN RESTING. Went back to it okay. We said that last time we just you said we're going to go back to the original. Yeah Okay So. It didn't hit anybody so matt from love of the Mouse. Podcasts actually designed our logo image. That every time he's on. Thank you matt for doing that and Yes so they mentioned one little spark which is a great song but Tori also mentioned happily ever after which I think is the newest song on our list. This is sung by Jordan Fisher and Angie cal. How're and released in two thousand seventeen when they shut down wishes and they did happily ever after Yup. We won that post laundry. We've mentioned before but that's that's a great. We're that's one of the things we're looking forward to seeing on our chest happily ever after we saw the online video the live Stream that they did but can we see that in person and I love the song actually. It's in one of my few my playlist that I listen throughout the day so great. Pick all right. Let's talk about Yoho Pirates for me. Oh pirates I for me. I'm surprised even though. Sparrows Name Sparrow the PODCAST. He loves pirates of Caribbean. You don't like the song no why not instead knowing to knowing like it's a small because it just repeats over and over again all right. Well I just WANNA say one thing go for. I wouldn't like the pirates ride so much. If there wasn't Jack Sparrow in it You know that. That's a fairly recent addition. I know all right because the movies are fairly recently. Yes well fairly older than you but the first one is only a year older than me so Johal partly for me. I was surprised because actually thought this was the song that existed before the right but it is written for the ride. The music was written by George Bruns and the lyrics by exceed your accent. Gio Fence you really. The song was son at the beginning of the first film by young Elizabeth Swann. Yes and then later in the film went. Elizabeth and Jack were marooned on an island sang the song near a bonfire and then he remarked leader that he would teach to his crew and when they would sing it all the time a reference a reference to the never ending actions of the audio animatronic and the attraction and the final lines of the film. Jack Barrell a part of the song while taking the ship's wheel so the reporter. We haven't done don't you? Own Factory was a great song and belongs on the top of the list. You said yes but you don't forget that parts of Caribbean. Obviously one of the best dark rides is probably my number two after splashdown so I love that. Let's hear from jared and Jamie from capture the magic podcast on some of their favourite typically traction songs. Hey this is jared and Jamie from the capture the magic podcast. Yeah thank you Tony Boys for asking us to be part of this episode. It's always it's always a good time. So in terms of the Best Disney world attraction music. What would you say well a I? I immediately think of parts of the Caribbean being very comic. I thought you'RE GONNA say small world knows going to walk off. No the Yoho fired for me like I think everybody knows that song so I would say I was. Pirates would be one of one while I was thinking that my main one. But it's one of the ones I was thinking of. Yeah I feel like if I needed to get information from somebody. Small World Pass like the operated like twenty. Not even serious. Just let it stall for fifteen minutes and whatever major I needed I would I would acquire in an in no time But in terms of one's I enjoy I thought it'd pirates to but one that gets in my head and I don't necessarily hate. It is carousel progress. Yeah that was GONNA be. I'M NOT GONNA SING SINGER. Jamie apparently but I don't hate that one but I probably like pirates a little bit more more like I mean. It's Kinda yeah. Pirates are fun and cures progress. That was yeah. That was my. That wasn't a number one. I've loved that attraction since I was a kid and and that that song like Duri deepened my brain. That I'll never forget it. And it makes me think of like Classic Disney and makes me nostalgic. So that is my that is my pick. What would like your second or third. One second was pirates. Third would probably be. And don't don't kill me would be the figment won the no the original. Oh okay even horizons is fine. But it's just yeah. Pirates and carousel progress for my two pirates. In carousel for me my third probably Soren. Okay I like Sorenson. It's kind of like he got from. They got the music. What's the guys? I always forget his name. Patrick something from finds Svelte Boys. I don't remember. It always makes me think of him in his voice. I kind of wish I could get a recording of his voice to go to bed to do like good night. Have a good night. Whatever with that music in the background. Be Fantastic. Well the top three in different order I guess would be. Parts of the Caribbean cares all progress. Then you had their journey originals. Ernie original journey which nobody where most people won't know most younger people don't their mind will be Soren. So thank you Tony and the boys for having us be a part of the show and Kicking right you guys thanks. What there you go. That'll all right so another song. This is all instrumental that I really love and I think you guys do. It was the original soaring soundtrack from soaring over California. Yes I can we actually. I used to play this when you guys were smaller to get sleep. You would listen to this song on repeat smaller. Just say we were babies. Okay okay when you were babies when you say smaller. Camin two weeks ago. That's true you're growing at a rapid rate but yeah this is a great song. It's instrumental no words. But I just a love. The the music of this in the way of builds up and It's changed for the new soaring original so the original Soaring over California ride film was at Disney California Venture and Epcot and actually brought it back last year at California venture. And there's they might do it again this year because this ride used an original orchestral score by the composer Jerry Goldsmith. Who said to have come said to come down from his first ride in tears. He loved the ride so much. In addition to finding the right. Visually beautiful magical. He said that his father was a pilot who loved all things California. I do anything to be part of this project. Goldsmith said I'd even score the film for free but I'm sure he did dot com so the soundcheck he wrote plays Throughout the entire traction starting with the crescendo in the low strings while the screen is still dark and numerous variations of a serene themed for Horn and strings could be heard as well as several statements. The fanfare that company the film's Grand. Vistas this could still be heard playing in the Disney resort and Disneyworld official albums and in the Epcot area music. So I love this. I love this I do and I don't like at your own music that much. So if it's not John Williams. I don't really like really like it. I mean Disney. How can you I like this? We currently sparrow. Doesn't like one. Yes and it's a smaller. A lot of people don't like that all right. I WanNa talk about my favorite dark ride and some of the music music someone favorite but I like the Music Farm Splash Mountain is it. Betty Doll Milaoda. Wonderful Day. Molly Zip Betty. Very nice. A splash mountain at Disneyland features music the Music Jazzy. Big Band meet orchestral style fitting the attractions proximity to New Orleans. We're so there's a couple of different songs in there. There's how do you do record? A specifically for the ride in nineteen eighty eight by. The flu sees a twenty nine piece band from Oregon. Everybody has a laughing place. And burrows lament or two more songs. These songs are sung by Elsa Georgia and Castel Newton. Three sisters from California who worked for the Walt Disney Company at the time of the rights construction and of course Zippy Duda which had a choir consisting of over seventy five cast members to record this last song the ride and it was recorded in the company's Burbank Studios in nineteen eighty seven just are Nelson's solo as bare rabbit as the logs Ticket their final turn back to the station. I met him he met. We have we mentioned just a few times he's He's one of the maniacs. He's Wacko and you also does a lot of cartoon voices and we met Him God. In addition several other songs from Song of the South are heard as instrumental tracks played on a loop near the attraction in magic kingdom. The ride has the same songs but with variations on the mean three and in a different order. Because of the rights of frontier land the soundtrack features more of a country feel with banjos harmonicas as the primary interest instruments and also because of Florida's close proximity to Georgia where Song South was set. So that's pretty cool the same songs but they change them up differently for where the riders. That's cool time which I never knew that. Now I WANNA Kinda. I've always wanted to go to California but I would like to go there and just hear the differences. What what what are your thoughts? Do you guys like these songs. Yeah good is that a good pick. Good all right all right. So let's hear from Christine Rob. From the t t a podcast about some of their favorite. Disney attraction songs Christine. Yes you know. What's great what music. I think this music thing is going to really catch on and people are going to be listening to it for a long long time. No men the silent films are doing pretty good. Well I think they're on their way out and I think part of the reason. I think they're on their way out is because they're really good at Disney theme parks and they're really good on you know Disney rides. Yeah so on the topic of Disney. Ride music do you have a favorite song so I have multiple favorites to be honest? It's really hard to pick one but I figured there's there's one that I really love that. I think is not an obvious tech so go with one of my favorites will put it that way and wildcard think Epcot think eighties fun to be free. No can have her a veggie veggie FRUIT FRUIT. Not even close. We're talking but the Michael Jackson Classic. We're changed the world from catchy neo. Yeah not one that many people think about because you think grim go certain. Sohn's at go with the right right but that song was originally written for Cattaneo. It wasn't like it came from another album. In fact I was looking into this. They never publicly released into two thousand four so for Really Long Time. It was just a captain. Es on he had two songs and other one came out in the bed. So world is an amazing song because he literally saves an entire planet of Goth Lake soldiers and say the galaxy like because he is here to change the world. With with positivity and dance. You know like what could be better than that. Which is you know what's interesting about that. There was also a show called Splash tackler which had a very similar plot again. Now off the top of my head. I can't remember which came first but it was a similar idea of there was like this really really like just sort of angry. Angsty like Gout Glac Dick Chris and Mckeon and his crew with all the brightness of color sort of changed the the galaxy and saved it so I'd see this seems to be a running theme and Epcot. I think Disney knows something. We don't about the future of the galaxy. Yeah definitely that I mean I don't know for me. That was a attraction than experiences. Very young kid got to experience again when they brought it back and that's on a so upbeat I mean it was. Just classic quintessential eighty s of Epcot. Not everyone loves captain EO but I do and Yeah that song is just to watch that little clip from that video. I think it's so great. See my choices. The opposite It is Michael Jackson who kind of. It's just like the opposite of sort of like this. Little deep cut that. Not a lot of people would guess. It is a great big beautiful tomorrow at Carousel of progress because one. I really liked the message of the song I liked. Positively of it. I like the inspiration Inspirational message but really what I like is how and this is like a Sherman brothers staple is how versatile it is because in each scene. It's a different style and so you've got you know the old style like the fifties is my favorite But I liked you can take this song and just apply to different decade and you know still have the same lyrics the same tone and the message but have it fit that that era and I would always love and we might have mentioned this on an episode of the PTA. Podcast that we do. But I feel like even if they don't update the scenes I would love to see Disney put out an album where they do a version of great big beautiful tomorrow for every decade of the last century. Give us a fifties sixties seventies. Give us an eighty Cynthia version. You know like nineties boy band or go to all those genres. I think that'd be really fun. Can we get instinct to do the nineties Boivin versus that? Of course Joey fatone is going to be there at the food and wine eat to the beat. I'M GONNA go there and I'm GonNa pull them aside and be like Hey. I've got an idea. You should bring up to bobby. Iky Pitch Nice. I would also like to give a very quick honorary mentioned. How do you do from Splash Mountain? Because that song gets stuck my head for Adeel meaning sued now. That's a good honorary mentioned would be fun to be free similar idea it. It spans all these different and if you've never seen the world emotions and all the traction not a lot of people have ridden at this point but go check it out and listen to the different adoration because it's the same idea but over a much wider scope. There's like the the song I think there's an ancient Egypt version and you know so like it jumps a much wider range than great big beautiful tomorrow but it's the same idea. It's just so that Disney charm you know to be. That's why I think music is good. Stick around for a while but some money on it. Well then I also liked it a lot. That was interesting. They picked a couple of different ones. They know we are here to change the world and fun to be free so those are interesting. I've never heard those actually except for online and all right so some honorable mentions. I wanted to mention but aren't necessarily my favorite are still good songs. We've got golden dream from the American adventure which we haven't done in epcot which I want to do again this ride. So that's in the American pavilion It is used at Epcot. World showcase and Disney's Great moments with Mr Lincoln. The music was written by Robert. Moline and the lyrics were written by show producer. Randy bright a some other honorable mentions under the sea and these next three. You're kind of like a next next to our kind of songs that were in the movie but are also in the ride into Savoys a little mermaid. That's one of my favorite songs has been since the movie came out. We got let it go from frozen L. Let it go right in the Big Blue World from the seas with Nemo and friends which I don't think is in the movie but is in the right right. There's any songs and Nemo later you're right. You're right Mickey's Boo Parade Song. That's a good one. I liked that one The three Cobb Eros which is from guess which is from the movie and they just used it in the ride the grand tour which we love There's also just one. I'm going to go on tour in the restaurant right. Yeah that's very cool but I love that song honorable mention. I'd I've I've never experienced this one. In Person. By heard the music and it makes me laugh. Veggie veggie fruit fruit which is an old epcot song. Shown in kitchen and cabaret in the land pavilion. Kind of where story is now in a closed in January nineteen ninety-four and they actually use this epcot forever. There's a little one or two lines from the song in their veggie fruit fruit and then last but not least on my list and things I think we should mention is the main street electrical parade music. Which is actually was not written for the Main Street Electrical Parade? What it's a song you can actually hear it in a few other places but it was composed by John McCain. And I don't know if I said the right impose Kingsley for their electronic sint prop album kaleidoscope vibration spotlight on the Mook. It's called the actual song is called. Baroque hoedown was discovered by the mainstream show creators. An option for use in the brain. This piece was created through the use of a mobile synthesizer which gave it the characteristic electronic harpsichord sound in order to coincide with the parades floats. Barracuda was melded together with Classic Disney songs. Just when you wish upon a star so this is love. I've got no strings and several others to make it work but I I love seeing on me that I want to say one factor about that season putting Okeyo and avengers. Each trump is true. It's it's more tribune. All chancing definitely has his face melted so we love the main street electrical parade so I had include this on A. We went on twitter. And we asked some you guys with your favorite Disney attraction songs are so we'll re through some of those so again if you don't follow US online we're on twitter us on twitter at Disney underscore. Discuss you post questions all the time you know when news articles come post them so be sure to follow us and we want you to be part of the discussion. So it's cool that you guys are interacting with us so Jocelyn said happily ever after which is a great fantastic pick. I think she says it's literally my most favorite thing in the entire world and you can count on me being Just like Danilo from the Dillard's dis about wishes. When it goes away so Jocelyn does not want that song to ever go away Jeff Taylor at Disney Flyer says soaring the original version. The new one is okay but feels forced. I don't feel forced but I agree. The original version is definitely definitely much better. Marshall Mc at MC Marshall Forty three one of our followers it has followed us the longest and always interacts with us says fantasma which is a great pick and I honestly forgot about God about it and he's one of my favorite. Actually I don't know why think of it but sometimes it just plays like I just hear my head. Twenty four seven twenty four seven music. They actually use it on the distant crews. If you go to the animators Palette Yeah. This should have been on my list. I love this song here. In my head dented fro fantasma our friends at Disney. Dna podcast Trenton. Jenny said there's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day. That is my personal favorite. I love that Rick Forbes at Magic in the hill says Splash Mountain Melody which I agree at Sabra twenty two says happily ever after followed by the Lion King Show Animal Kingdom. That's another good one. The Lion King. Show yes like that but definitely have to scare you crazy cat. Nerd says grim grinning ghosts which is definitely a classic at pink. Monorail says Horizons Music. I'm not I've never been on. Her is here. People Love Horizons Actually where TUSK truck is now but I'll have to listen to that test. Track the right itself yes it. It's a completely different right. Maybe it wasn't test track. Maybe I'm thinking of something else. It's a different ride as kind of like castle progress but like going into the future like what the future would be like and you could actually choose the at three different choices at the end. If you wanted to go and again I never been on it. So maybe remembering wrong. Space Yu-gi-oh under the sea or go in the city and it'll take you two different parts of the ride. Whoever chose like Herbert got the most votes? You would go to that part of the ride so you could actually have a different ride every time well three times anyway. So it's pretty cool off the listen to that at Gina. Four three three seven three seven seven eight says I says wishes which was the show before happily ever after wish. It is George C. TV says he grew up. Hearing now is the time at Walter. Carousel progress so special to me second choice. The background music at the mad tea party which is good specifically he goes a time Stanley. He's got thirty seconds from minute. One twenty nine two minute one fifty eight in a clip. I often find myself humming and whistling to it so again now is the time the second song they did it for Carousel. Progress is still a good song but I think gripping beautiful. Tomorrow's even better the best time of year. I don't know at all about that. Mouse says is agrees with Jordan. Says yes as did. I'm a moment I still sing it. Now is the time now is the best time now is the best time of our lives. All right at Seila Debra says main street electrical parade flea agree at Angela. Underscore Thompson says one. Little Spark by figment at Mickey's fun wheel says it's funny at Disneyland's Space Mountain Music and I forgot to mention space mountain. That is great music. So I don't know if there's a difference between Disneyland and Disneyworld have to check that out and all about that mouse again says. Oh there's a great big beautiful tomorrow at I am Moon Says Star Wars. I am Blue Moon but Star tours which is great music. But it's kind of star wars music which is fantastic parts of the Caribbean the Electric Light Parade. She said I used to love Space Mountain. But I can't handle any roller coasters anymore. So all great. Pick so if you think we missed something which. I'm sure we did just by going through your twitter answers. Be Sure to let us know on twitter or comments Go to our website to see discussions dot com and comments And let us know what we missed all right special. Thanks to our podcast friends. That helped us out with this episode. Thanks to Tom. 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#1360 - Nikki Glaser

The Joe Rogan Experience

2:49:09 hr | 1 year ago

#1360 - Nikki Glaser

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Her name is Nikki Glaser and she's fucking awesome so please give it up for Nikki the Joe Rogan experience podcast. That's it we're moving Nikki Glaser Aka Marshall's new best friend. Oh Yeah you definitely knew for sure but I feel like he likes everyone. Does everyone likes you right now for sure he likes. You jumped all over you. It was so awesome I love him. I needed so bad is a rare a dog. He is weird right. Its instantly like he looked. I told you when he came in. You hadn't even seen yet need just saw me and it's like we met our eyes. Matt across the room and he just like bounded towards me. It felt so good who runs to you like you're his best friend again. Yes in forever just got back from war and he's my child looking just so excited. They started whimpering. Good believe you're here. It's so any let you just hug him. I've never had a golden before. I am retriever. They're like the nicest dogs of all time I've only had much that. We've collected from the humane society that didn't you know that are used and deal with them. Lucky but you can also good you were talking about your dog didn't want you to touch it for a year. Those my daughter oldest daughter her had this little tiny dog was part Chihuahua and part Australian Sheep Australian her dog shepherd dog forget what it is but it was they're very much like a Chihuahua very small dog and he was terrified of me for a year when let me come anywhere near my come on dude. I'm telling you I love dogs and it really wasn't until we got Marshall. Oh and then he saw me with a little tiny puppy like Oh. This is all right and then like he wanted to play with marshalls. He got close to me and then I pet his head and then next thing you know he's hopping in my lap and then you know after that he would just run to me and like literally jumping my arms yeah. It's that isn't that super rewarding to like see that change and see when a dog finally accepts Slav and has just been abused. It's it's sad though when you like what happening like why are you scared of men would kill to know what happened to my rescue dogs that. I gave to my parents points but I had them for two years. I've a quite a few dogs in my life that were rescue. Dogs and one was one of the best ones ever had a friend of a friend founded eating on a garbage cans and she was covered in mange like her like half. Her body was like hairless. It was really sad yeah but she was a really sweet dog was tough to to tell us looked like she was like two or three. I took her in and like within like a month. She had our hair back to his fully plumped up and that was like the nicest dog like she was like one of the Nice Dogs Yeah. It's my my dog that I got bit me on the first day and drew blood and I was just like I'm getting getting rid of this thing. This isn't GonNa last. I was just fostering it and then it switched at some point at it love me and I learned how to love. I just like went into soon and it just was a it was abused before it came with this whole back story of the rescue. People told me it was founded an alley behind a pizza hut and it was living off pizza and a kid. Try this whole story. I think a lot of rescue places make up stories for sure inclined line by to get these things because they come with the story because I checked later on to be like which Pizza Hut was it because I wanted to bring Luigi my dog back to the pizza. Hut came from just to see if like I kind of wanted wanted to see and she goes. I think that was just a story we made. I was like Oh come mine. Huckabee make up stories so dirty because it moves dogs man yeah. They gotTA move. They can do to move those dogs. Give them names. Give him a story. He slept on a pizza crust as a pillow. You know like just any kind of thing that makes them. Did you know the pita kills else. Thousands of dogs herd anytime I post anything about. PD have a bunch of people saying they're the worst the worst but what they are is there the origins of Pitas the Animal Liberation Organization the origins of Pita. The people who originally founded pita believe that all animals including pets should be free. They don't believe in domesticated animals okay and well. That's preposterous dog out there. He's having a great time. Being a pet is the bet. I've actually Said said if I could be reincarnated. It would be a rich person's golden retriever. I've said that I didn't realize your dog is what I wanNA. Come back at the best life the I love best life. That dog is only known love. It stress happens in a dog's life Caisley. He can't go out. Yes I'm injured or something like that. He can't run for like weeks at a time he gets bombed. Pita kills animals because they think that their our policy is that it's your more free to be dead than you are. I don't know I don't want to put words in her mouth. They definitely kill animals. They kill him quick. That's the thing Mindanao they're trying to find owner storm. That's the knock on them. The Knokke the Animal Liberation Organization. I mean Dave like broken into like the type of the people that like break into fucking supermarkets and released a lobsters back to the ocean. Be Free Be free to it are you. I'm into it. I'm a total photo vegan. I know you are but those lobsters have always made me so sad why they're bugs mosquitoes. I rarely kill bugs. Mosquitoes are fucking you up you. Just let them please divinely eat me drink of my blood. No I am you and if you give me Malaria Leiria than Soviet I just okay maybe not like I'm not crazy. Come to your house. Your House is filled with roaches a handy bug spray right do use it. Yes because roaches can fuck although I did have an instance and this is true. I was in the shower and I was having I get really Vegan and really when I'm depressed. I get more Vegan than ever. It's like what throws me into it. I'm just feeling too much and then I feel for every animal and it just gets out of control troll so if I'm ever going off about Vegan propaganda on my instagram. Someone should check it on me not doing okay. Yes focal you in one day in the shower and there was a dying house centipede like drowning the grossest bug known to man like it's their half centipede have spider. They're disgusting disgusting. They've I don't hate anything more than that creature and I was like you know what I can't kill it. I WanNa save it and just take it outside and I'll tell my vegan front like I'll be like such a good vegan today okay so I got out of the shower and like you when you go the shower. You think you're just like you. Just don't need a towel. I'm just GonNa grab something you traipse like a Lazy River throughout your because they did that made a huge mess. Get a paper. Come back and pick it up and I'm so scared to do it and I and I like. I'm so proud of myself too. I can't wait to fuck until the VEGANS and I open it up and I'm so scared because I wanna see if it's still alive and it was a clump of PBS. It wasn't even yeah so I I but which looks exactly loop line. You're proves that dark I yeah yeah. This is all fake bottle bottle bottle. I mean they're not like dark dark but centipedes house centipedes early blonde. They're kind of like dirty blond hair. Bleach is not Vegan right listen. The Big Talker said that you like Oh shit. Let's say I I I. There's so many I'm not a perfect. Vegan and I don't claim to be but I loved the idea of veganism the idea that you you love animals. Yeah one cause harm. I love the idea just the practical application and the health implications just that that doesn't sit with me really yeah protein well. Let's not protein. It's there's a lot of different things that you get from animals mega fatty acids from grass fed animals salmon and things like that that are just Coleen in which is very difficult to get outside of animal products b twelve very difficult get outside of animal products. Okay my problem with. I don't care or if you hunt. I don't care if you earn a farm. Animals are treated while it's just all about big issue ninety percent of all my meat. I kill myself. That's that's why when people you know the often cite you is like. Is it a cool of Joey. I'm like yes because he's hunting at all also if I shoot if I shoot like to animals. I eat them the whole year. I'd hunt big animals elk or deer like Vita dear. I'll I'll eat out for four months like for four months. I'll cool. I'm fine with them. In a female dog at my dog eats mostly raw elk me really. It's one of the reasons why so oh healthy yeah he gets. I mean dog. Food is horseshoe like what the fuck is. Animal Dixon assholes all ground up. That dog eats elk. He eats mostly the elk. You can tell he's super healthy. He's beautiful but yeah I mean that's the problem is also a murder does a squirrel murderer. Get him anywhere near a squirrel and everything changes yeah his little eyes roll back in his head and they go black. He's caught something like a shark has and then he eats that for four months he leads off. That's okay all right. He doesn't even eat them. Just sports comes back. I want you to see takes pictures. He yeah the scroll in his mouth you with that dog. Let me just say I've you have the best. Your happiness like comes out in your face so like when you smile. It's it's not a fake. Smile yourself with a dog after a hike. I love them so much happy I am. He's my buddy. You're so happy yeah. I'm pretty happy I WANNA. Come back as you reincarnated complicated it is. It's been a long time for me. You know people don't shouldn't do you. Don't WanNa be me. You're a woman would be so crazy seems pretty good. You think so seems pretty great to be Joe. I mean I mean what is the downside of being you. I really want to know if if someone was interested in becoming you what are some where some warnings you give them better work bitch. Yes otherwise the demons a catch the catch you love working out. I love working coming out for two reasons one because it makes me feel good and to because I don't want the demons to catch me. What are these demons payments. Tell me team anger. Anger Anger Demons most men of anger demons because most men have a certain amount of rick. There's a requirement that your body has in terms of like the expenditure of energy and if you don't meet that requirement you get antsy and then you get agitated when you see people flip and people often traffic and going fucking crazy and Rhodesian. What do you think that is for most people. It's this this like excess of energy oozing out like an overflowing battery and they don't know what to do with you know and if you have have any sort of a history of violence or extreme like a like a combat sports or contact sports like football or anything athletic athletic. That's involving a lot of aggression like that's sort of inherently a part of who you are and then. Where do you put that when you're not doing that exactly you've got to exercise that shit out yeah you were talking about this with the other day with the boys talking about sober October about how when you workout you don't do it when you were last October two five hours a day on a treadmill or whatever the hell you were doing you had you couldn't feel anything afterwards. There was some kind of residual your I didn't even comprehend it because I've never worked out that much talking about how nothing bothers. Nothing bothers nothing nothing because you're so tired no no because I'm not that that's the crazy thing. Is You get in really good shape and then you're not that it's not that you're that tired. It's just that you're even like all the way you process things. There's no like well fuck this guy think he is. There's there's no that it's like someone flips you off. Oh look at that guy flipping me off and registers. Zero doesn't mean that you you don't love things or get passion hashing about things but all the internal negative chatter is gone all of it all of the all of the pitfalls and psychological Michael Traps that your your mind will lay for you if you don't give it a lot of activity if you don't occupy it. I think that's a lot of what people go through in their life with anxiety Heidi with all sorts of different issues. I think we have human reward systems that are built in that that helped us survive from the fucking caveman I mandates and those are still a part of our DNA and if those athletic requirements or physical movement requirements aren't met your body just gets agitated and it just like fucking just wants to do something Jesus Christ and you're just watching TV and then and then your neighbor's dog is barking like we shut that fucking thing up. It's just releasing that energy. You would've been releasing if by gathering nuts or rain something physical anything for fucking hiking anything yeah. That's why people are happier unhealthier when they used their body. It's it's not as simple as like people. Look at it like intelligent. People unfortunately a lot of them. Look at it like it's a vanity thing. They don't want to be caught up in a vanity thing so they don't care about their body but it's not that you're you are your body. They're inseparable. Your mind is a part of your body. Your body's a part of your mind. It's altogether but what about your thoughts. How do you what are your feelings on thoughts. What am I feeling like for me. Thoughts are what what caused the anxiety and all of the depression and all the anger. It's not having control of my thoughts. It's letting my thoughts control me and as soon as I learnt meditation and the idea that my thoughts were not me and that they were these external things that I could choose to either indulgent or bad away then I was able to really gain like a holdover my anxiety and depression that I had not before when I thought my thoughts were just like Oh. I'm thinking this ought it's true. It's me I created it. Let me keep going with it do you. Do you feel like how do you. Don't you think meditation helps you with your anger. You're also for sure for sure but it's not it's not like anger randomly angry around things. I just have my physical requirements yes. You're you want some fake appear. It's so I can't yeah I don't drink and this is absurd to me that I would have a beer beer. I don't miss the taste of alcohol aw who misses the no one would drink alcohol if it didn't get you up it is good really this tastes like the Saint Louis funny bone which is a great taste does St Louis Funny Bone Two thousand nine living my best low. When was the last time you drank two thousand eleven. December ninth Cleveland Hilarity after the show you like I'm done I well. I just had a couple of years to close out the evening. was by myself. It's GonNa go shooting heroin. I don't know what happened. I I I I was at a point in my life where it was like. This has got to stop because my hangovers were getting so ridiculous and debilitating for Whole Day and I was just doing the blackout from two drinks because my mind John Lane is a great joke about it where he says he would blackout very quickly. After a couple of drinks 'cause his mind was like we you know where this is going shutting down early. If you know it's GonNa be you're GONNA blackout. Your brain just blacks out earlier because every time I drink I would blackout so I just I woke up that more than next morning and I had only had a it wasn't a hard night of drinking couple beers but I was just the sickest I've ever been in the thing about hangovers over that. I really had to look at like the best part about being sick if you're going to find the best part about being sick it's that people feel sorry for you. Baby the little bit you get a nurturing from from your friends and family that you don't get when you're healthy but when you're hung over no one gives you that so you're sick and you don't even get the only good thing about being sick. which is people feeling sorry for you? Everyone's like you piece it. You did this to yourself so I was like in the shower in in the fetal position thinking this is how I should feel if I'm dying like I really don't WanNa feel this bad add unless I am on my way out so I'm not doing this anymore. And I read a book and I was done was the book the easy way to stop drinking by Alan Carr a easy way is you read this book and then you're done at the end of it and what he does while used his method to stop smoking the easy way to stop smoking looking by Alan Carr so many people have read it. It's the one book that when you've tried everything else. Nothing else works this book. My mom quit smoking after thirty five plus years. Neil so many of my friends I heard about it. I think like Ellen Degeneres and Ashton Kutcher. I heard a bunch of celebrities kind of talking about it. I read the book and you can smoke while you you read it and then by the end of the book. He just promises you he goes. Go have a cigarette and you're like no. I don't want to don't need to his methodist. It is and this is thing he does with drinking any excuse. You have to do that thing. He talked you out of it. He tells you a reason why you're excuses actually bullshit and there's no science science behind it and he he just proves any reason that you have to do it and we've been brainwashed by tobacco and Alcohol Industries Industries to believe that quitting is really hard and quitting alcohol is hard. If you have you can die from it obviously but with tobacco it's part of their propaganda Baganda to tell you that it's hard to quit smoking. They're the ones pushing that method or message which seems like why would they tell people. It's hard but they're doing that because if it's hard you won't quit so that has been their message to be like it's so hard to quit smoking. It's so hard when really it's not the no the the the withdrawal symptoms of not smoking last up to two weeks. I think it's less than I think it's seven to eleven days and the discomfort advert caused by wanting a cigarette is the same discomfort as being a little bit hungry. You're a little bit annoying. It's like it's not insurmountable. It's it's uncomfortable enjoyable but it's it passes after several eleven days. I think it is and then it's even when you're going through it. It's not that bad but it's it's the psychological effect effect of thinking it's hard that makes it then. Hart so once he proves to you it's not that hard in any excuse to you have to smoke which is like. It calms me down. It raises your blood. The person so that's inaccurate it makes me more social actually isolate you. You know if you really look at it. Every time you smoke you feel Kinda. Bad people think you stink like the three excuse you have and then he did it with drinking too. I went through this book. I read it you can drink while you read the book you have to WanNa quit to pick up the book. You have to want to be like I want this out of my life. I don't know how to get it out of my life and I gave this book to so many of my friends and my friends don't drink anymore and a lot of them. You know US program or other things to supplement but all I needed needed was this book and I was done and I'll tell you I drink every single night of my life and I never thought I could live without it. It was just I was just like anyone listening thing. That's like no no no. You don't understand all my friends drink. It's my life. It's my social life. That's my work life. It was everything to me. All I look forward to yeah. I'll never go like this when my friend enters a bargain like I'll I'll never do that. I will never greet a friend with she's. Yes yes yes. That's that's that was me. That was like that's something I miss. I'll never have that kind of to drink enthusiasm anymore but because I don't drink drink. I am fucking killing it. My life changed. I can trace my careers before and after like on the dot Um so you know it's not for everyone. If you have a problem you should maybe look into it but that book seriously changed my life. That sounds amazing and there there was no like difficulty in quitting nine. Now really was easy. I never maybe a couple times. I felt like oh I'd be nice to have a drink. I you know I was dating a guy like just wanted to have a glass of wine with me and I'm like why can't I just have a glass of wine and I've been tempted and I don't think that I would go off the deep end and again but but but I don't I just I go back to that book and I'm just I just any reason I can give myself. It's just really it isn't true and I'm better without it it well. It's definitely not true if you're drinking every night and you're blocking out yeah but if you just have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner feels nice. I know Social Lubricant Yeah Fun with friends start laughing and joking around but you don't have that ability to stop there I could for a few months and then it would trickle Glenn to the exactly the voice you at every people are listening and I know you relate to this of you go. I'm just GONNA have to tonight but then that person and you promise yourself you're just GonNa have to but then you get that voice drunk and that voices Kev another come. You can't talk talk to your plan for how you're gonNA feel two drinks in because you get drunk and then you it just keeps going to miss it. Man Even have a bit about that about drunk driving. The problem is the problem is not whether or not you can drive drunk. The problem is even thinking you can drive drunk because when you're drunk you don't know what the fuck you can do or can't do you think that's why guys is getting fights with people way bigger than them when they're drunk and they don't even know how to fight. You're you're stupid. You're a fucking more when you drunk so the idea that you could drive drunk like I'm fine line like you. Don't even know if you're fine. That's the problem yes. The problem is you're drunk and that's a big part of the book is talking to people about this liquid courage that everyone's sites. I mean like I. I need a drink because I can't go on stage. If I don't have a drink I need a drink to talk to. The girl and it's not courage what you're doing is. You're making yourself more stupid. You're actually actually making yourself more. I don't even know if the word is correct but more your retarding yourself and you're making yourself more mentally disabled careful thrown around that I know show seriously on this. It's a that's a real term retarding in real time and even retarded. It has has nothing to do with down. Syndrome has nothing to do with disease right and we've got a problem with that word country calling movie. The our word but I can call a mental state the R. Word. That's cool. What about a movement. That's retarding growth. Movement is the masses tarting parting but now retarded you say retarded. Isn't that interesting. Get scared so strange. We can say pussy cat but we can't say pussy imagine if there was like a bird you know what I mean and like you could say bird and everybody's like what someone called me before. Ah It's a popular insult de monetize from Youtube according to Jamie. Isn't that what you said. This is what they say that I've heard about sober sober over someone said the word and that's the reason to see where they said the two and a half hours into the podcast so the entire podcast was D. Mato what we should go back and beep it it change it go back and I love that workday word. I feel empowered word by that word with someone calls me a Clinton like really yeah. You know all right for the same reason when people were saying Hillary was a crook. I was like good a woman's a bad person. I don't even care like I'm just like yeah. We can do it all women. That aren't crooks. That don't know if you're going to have tonight president. Let's have one. That's not a murderer cool yeah. The first one was like impact but I'm just saying when people were saying. That argument was like good. I don't even fucking care I'd like I like a strong long just a a a woman doing things that men normally do. I love it. You know this the same kind of argument that people use for trump. What do you mean when they say he's an asshole and he's a thief. Who Cares bears fuck it? He's a man yeah. At least it's not a politician not a man. She's a crook we. She's not a man to do do it too yeah. That's a good point okay team team in town okay. I don't like that I take it back but I did have that feeling the word count though I just don't don't if someone calls me and I'm like wow I really like spoke up then tells me I'm doing something right. The real problem is words does not the real problem is these people have intent their intent is the same no matter what noise comes out of their mouth words are just conveying intent when you make words ban -able outlaw outlaw words. You're playing a fool's game. That's a fool's game because all words are supposed to be as tools that content. You can't say that that word. It's exactly the same every time it's used without without regard to the context. It's crazy because you could say that to your friend and you could both be laughing and love each other like you could say fucking crazy cut and she's like and you both thought on the ground howling laughing at no one got hurt at all or you could say it to your mom. Mom and it'll cut deep hurt her deeply and it's awful. It's an awful use the word because you're just conveying thoughts and your intent. It's not a fucking sound that you make with your mouth. That's the problem. The problem is the way people treat each other and this stupid game that people play where they outlaw certain words are banned certain words. Sir De monetize youtube videos for certain words. That is a fool's game dangerous. Your child playing a child game and history will not be kind to you. You'll you'll be looked at as a fucking buffoon. That's a fact well buffoon will probably be a word in five years that you will get in trouble for using right now. I'm just thinking what words now are. We using using that are. GonNa get US cancelled in five years people of Color really you think people of Color is GonNa. That's that's the that's the mode that okay when you can't say colored interesting impossible nonsense nonsense yeah you don't be the fuck out of you but if you say people of color they'll go okay cool. Well William Baby. What are we doing here. This is nonsense foolish. I'm scared for all people who've color caller are we. You know I'm darker than you and you're probably dark bill burr what the Fuck Luck. What are we doing. What are we doing. It's crazy. Are you worried ever. I mean your your own. You can't get cancelled. I'm my own. Boss helps a lot in a nice. I genuinely Nice Person. I'm nice. I am always nice. I'm nice to everybody. Even if you don't disagree with me I'll talk to you. I I work hard on. Being Nice means a lot to me. The means a lot for me to have good experiences with people you are nice and people are extremely intimidated by you you as was I but in the end really really nice. What do you mean you have to work hard on it. Work hard and being nice time that you weren't nice. He's very mean yeah but there was because it was competing martial arts. All the time was involved in violent things but you should have been like you said before that should have I've been getting out of your system and then you would have been planning I was competing it was before I was doing comedy competing all the time and it was my and also I wasn't. I was too a young to understand like what was important. What wasn't important so my my eyes were entirely on success at all costs. I just wanted to dominate. I just wanted to figure figure out a way to win always and so. I was just mean like I was in. I would enjoy hurting people and that's what I was doing. When I was knocking people out I would enjoy it but like it because they were trying to do it to me. What about comedy. Haven't you approached it the same way you don't care about. I mean you've you've achieved everything that one could achieve doing com like what do you mean. No I mean like you want. You got off on being the best ask you needed to compete you. You just try to do my best comedy. I just try to do my best now. You're not looking not trying to be first of all. I think that like we're awards rankings or anything like that. When it comes to art is ridiculous off like the this is the Emmy Award winning movie. This is the Oscar Award winning this assists the fucking the Grammy Award Winning Song like shut the fuck up. What are you doing. This is a business and the business is getting people to see who's number one and so all these advertisers paid watch this show or to promote on the show and people watch it. I wonder who's going to win. Best album of the year like it's crazy. There's a million great albums every ear how many thousands of albums out and how many people subjectively look at those albums and say God. This one really moved me. This one spoke to me in a dark time. This one really picked up me up at the gym this fucking love this reminds me of my husband or my wife and this is the idea that one is better than the other. It's like it's so subjective. David crazy you're right. I mean Liz owes album came out in two thousand sixteen and everyone slept on it until this year so you're absolutely right even know who she was doesn't talk saw her dancing around in some award show and I'm like that live where she busts out the flu like adamant China's amazing. She's lit didn't want to uh-huh so much power so much power. Just get so much energy sexy to like. I was just like turned on by the whole thing I really turned on. I just grabbed the bag your hair and just stuff you in there. He'd be all good stuff me down in her vagina kind of Elizabeth. Would you a hundred percent and I've never gone girl. Although it is kind of on my bucket list on your book won't be able to say I've done it. It's not something I crave. Dave but I'm going to do it. Good luck ladies whoever you have my eye on a couple yeah. I'm no. It's it's weird because I do not have a male gaze. Do what do you mean you have your eye on them. Zion girl could be creepy if the girls on into it like oh Jesus here comes comes this Nikki eat my pussy again. I test the waters and I'm like have you ever done anything with because I've never even done anything thing with a girl so I mean I made out with my girlfriends in high school but that was before I even kissed a boy and I just wanted to kiss as WANNA. Try It yeah but since then never fooled around with a girl but there's some then I'm just like I can't help that. I'm I'm attract I'd not. I don't consider myself gay but I'm on the spectrum somewhere. I'm on then I could do it in a little bit recently been like yeah I need to. I need to get in because I've never done. It and I expect expect men to do it to me. I think I should understand what it's like and and be able to empathize and no guy thinks that straight about about sorry I know I know maybe I should suck a couple of days so I could see a flex just a taste. Just Lick your finger. If you get some on just experience it inter. Maybe maybe but what else is on your bucket list. I think that's it and I really hope that I get this accomplished before. I'm like dying and like eighty eight or something in my grandkids have to like find a nurse to squad over my fucking. Beth one thing or like your old and rich and successful some lady does does not want to eat her pussy but she does want Gucci Bag. I'll definitely be able to buy that Gucci Bag. My face will look like one at that point. Yeah Bucket List do you have anybody lose things. No no you've already done them all. I don't have anything I everything. I'm doing keep doing I would like to be in a I would like to be in love and loved back. As much as I love. I would like to be in a loving relationship at some point. It doesn't have to last forever but I know that sounds like good. Yeah and I don't think it's it might not happen and I'm okay with that. You're young young right good. I totally die young. We all we can get hit in the head by meteor right now. The earthquake like yeah and then I would die without having a pussy pussy in my mouth or and my heart love and being a relationship with a woman yeah probably going yeah. I mean I really WANNA relationship with. I the dog collar on your neck. I mean I don't want to be a sex slave. I only in the do I wanna I wanNA know what would it be one out and about not sexy but in the bedroom yeah down to be rugged duggan slave. This woman wrote me recently because she knows that Mendel like bondage and stuff like that saw that on your instagram I really is I mean I I like like it because it is forced laziness like I say my joke like it. You can't do anything to a guy like and by the way I don't like doing things to manage just that I feel like I'm not good at a lot of those things. I've bad rhythm. Select Jerking is off or like sucking Dick. I just I'd rather you do to me. Sucking Dick makes sense is really hard for suck his own check jerking off. I used to have a joke about like having a girl. Turkey offs like trying to brush your teeth. Your left hand hilarious no matter what you can't do it right yes. You're trying to brush your teeth. My right hand knows where every trail my right hand. Just fucking goes. ooh. Yeah knows left hand. I can I gotTA move my head to keep uh-huh brush. That's why I like when guys grabbed my head and just take take take take the wheel though we don't know what you want but I'm getting better at it but I'm trying. I've had to like give some blowjobs. Just out of like I need to practice when a girl can jerk you off of a girl jerks who officers really good cheeses Jesus. How many guys you jerk we can't you know you can't now that. You know you can win. You just go. It felt really good. Thank you very noting it. No hand jobs. I just feel like fingering to like girls is probably like way better at finger no getting there. I love being fingered gone in the best trees. I love it the difference in girls and guys girls girls have small hands fingers like Mason the guy who was a bricklayer. Get them up there. Get them all up there. I don't mind I just like it because it's just I've never enjoyed masturbation with my own hand because I feel it's tickling myself like this is not make me laugh but if anyone anyone do that to me I guess it just I can predict my own movement toys. I do use toys but I and I talked about one of my special particularly. That's amazing that sucks your cl it by the way you're out right now right now netflix right now banging banging yeah yeah good name yeah thank you. Thanks a lot and I appreciate that I worked really hard on it. I I wanted to call it. fucking men then because it's about like fucking men but it's also like about fucking men. Netflix was like no we want children. I'm like childrens children. I mean they were just like it's going to make get so like children not children but it might be more censored two different demographics of our audience like well. The people that couldn't handle that title shouldn't be watching anyway but whatever I'm glad banging works and also I'm going on tour same going on tour January for my first theater tour the banging out tour and tonight tickets are on sale and I really want people to go because it's going to be all new material anyway very excited. When did you film filmed in May. Oh that's a good amount of time yeah and I felt another other special the twenty minute special for the degenerates on Netflix that comes out at in December. Damn look at you in our a twenty minute one yeah whoa you're crazy yeah. I got a lot of material man. I'm just I'm on the people go. You have so much material. It's like if I didn't there'd be something wrong. I'm on perform every night. I would be so bored if I wasn't in cranking it out. That's the key right it is. I don't let last time I was here. We went on over all your notes. I think about you all the time because I'm like I need to Organiz my jokes better and go over them and I just. I just can't do it but I'm GONNA try. I'M GOING TO START I wonder why couldn't you beat Ed cussing. There's absolutely I could may I know but but it's you know it would help right yeah you would help or no but I'm killin Senate as is look at you know what I mean like why fix something that ain't broke like no. I my I could be better than that's the thing. No one will ever know how good I could be if I actually tried as hard 'cause. I don't try as hard as they can. People go Nikki work so hard and I'm like you don't understand how much I'm not working like. I don't right down any joke. It's all one word in my notes. I don't go. I don't listen to old sets. The only reason I record set a record every set it so that if I die tragically that my parents can re use my recordings and like make money from like my loss tapes I truly I gave my parents my cellphone password Larry that they can get in there and get them money off. Me Who are here is a fucking crazy hard workers Michelle Wolf. Oh Dear God yes her. She writes two hours every day. I can't can't even be around her because she's always talking about jokes and writing and it makes me insecure about not writing enough and you you do your i. It's it's all about how much time and focus you put on standup and there's probably a point of no return or diminishing returns. We yeah to much work into it and then it feels flat and stale. Es Or overwriting. I'm sure there are a couple of jokes I did on the degenerates taping that were brand new and I just did them not because I needed to but because these are more exciting to me than my old stuff. Let me just do it and then the next week and go on the road in the joke becomes even better. I add tags or whatever but then a week after that I'm like it's even better I've added more and it's not better the first version of it was always the best and I'm glad I put that down because sometimes it gets too convoluted and get away from the I'm glad I got some of that stuff out there because sometimes the first time you say it is the best sometimes sometimes most of the time for me. It gets better most of the time for me better versions of it okay. The only the only time that changes is when something is like really current like something happens that day then I go onstage about it that day right right yeah yeah the first time you say something is usually like if the most energy for it because you know it already killed once and then the second is usually for me. It's the process always is getting the bit tighter and better. It's it always gets better. I've it's very rare that I have a bit and it's really good in the beginning and then after a few months I it flattens out. Usually just the tags get better tighten up at especially when you're doing a lot of sets you get a sense of how it works how it doesn't work as long as you're still feeling the feelings that you felt when you wrote it because it can if you can be doing. It'll really long time and then you're like. I'm just not even this person where this came from anymore but bill cosby. I remember him on that. com- comedian documentary saying that he writes the joke in the ads like one word and then as soon as it gets not funny he takes that word out and goes back to like but also like raping everyone for like many years sir to say what he was really thinking can't take him at his word. We were just talking about this that some woman who's an attorney was saying that he may very well. It'll be the biggest cereal raper in history. Yes I mean. I don't know why I was excited about that. I know but it's Goddamn crazy crazy accessible and you know could it. Some of those women possibly have died from od ING. Oh sure he did a test on them to find out what situation conditions they may have. Oh Yeah I mean who knows what he's people have adverse reactions to medication all the time back then who knows what that's what was the nets a AH. Some women reported waking up being. They didn't know how many days had passed they were dehydrated and I mean they woke up near death. You know so I'm guessing he maybe it was you know she would tell the truth he won't but I wish he would tell the truth like like I would love if he's so old now. It's GonNa be really hard because I'm sure he thinks about his legacy and he's Fo- shit but I would love it if he could just say like what what was going through his head when he would drug them like did he think they were beneath him. Like what was it he had to he had to. I think it's a celebrity thing because he always exhibited the weirdest parts of the celebrity situation like he felt above people in privilege. I'll never forget he was interviewing Ron. Wanda Sykes interviewed him at some award show and he chastised her for the way she was talking to him. He was he's wearing sunglasses inside and he just had this arrogance about him. Like here's one decisive is hilarious comedian. She's crate. He should have been excited to talk to her but instead dead he had this feeling that he was like this royalty and it didn't you know didn't appreciate her language or use of language he'd raped like one hundred fifty an like like what the fuck but that that sort of. I'm above everyone you know. I worked at a casino and they told me that he would eat dinner and he wanted the entire staff in his dressing room to watch him eat. What yeah yeah the lady was really freaked out by. She goes he he would have the entire Krulak everyone door everyone stand there while he ate curry eat his food and then at night that that was actually more entertaining than the act he was taking around at that time because I fell asleep seeing him which was ironic. I really he came to my college and I fell asleep. Eh while you're in school though but you probably hung over Palais actually but he also watch crawl also had the security guard document said that he wanted the security guard to tuck him into bed and then shut the door and turn the lights out. I mean you must. Let's see this though when people are thinking that that seems like super extreme. How do you stay grounded and not think you're better than other people's pretty first of all do Jiu Jitsu. I get my ass kicked difficult things that I'm not good at. I think that's very important do lot of difficult things but also I don't have that attitude. I've never thought that I was better other than people just I'm good at certain things but it's all because of time and effort you know one of the reasons why it's really important do things that you're not good at do difficult things because it reignites at Party of brain where you're learning things and instead of just tightening up what you already know you can remember when you first started doing stand up and you're like so awkward data like it's A. I remember I was terrible. I was clunky and every set like this could be an emotional fucking train wreck for me. Here we go and I was so nervous now like like did a set Tuesday night the comedy store I go there. All my friends were there. were all laughing and joking. I can't wait to get up. There got the material already. Everybody's there to see me like hey everybody. It's easy so I do difficult stuff a lot of difficult things. That's why sometimes they get violently high before I go on stage as a new challenge. It'll be up there and like what the fuck are you saying. What are you doing like five like you know to the point where it's like. I shouldn't be doing standup but it gives me a new challenge because 'cause stand up doesn't even raise my heart rate but don't you think beginning really high when you go on stage opens up. Some weird thought sometimes those come in they become new bits. Yes all all the time. I don't drink will listen to you. Go wait a minute. Wait a minute not sober so you get high. what the fuck is that yeah. Just substituted instituted one addiction for another and I'll tell you yes I did yes I did because I can't. I gotTa have something I was. I was totally sober for several years and it felt great eight and I had the stamp of approval from the sober community and and I don't say I'm sober. I just say I don't drink. I'm very like those words are important to me because is people feel so betrayed when they're like but you smoke weed. I do it because it makes me happy and and it doesn't seem to I quit drinking because it was affecting my career. My career is my most important thing in my life and my relationships and but we does not negatively affected those to the point that I need to quit as soon as it does. I'll be done and I'll read easy way to stop smoking pot by a guy who's now dead so that doesn't exist but well. I think that pot is a different thing and for me I mean I like it because it makes me more sensitive makes me nicer makes me more friendly me to have more of a sense of community. I WANNA hug people and I'm very I thoughtful when I'm hi. I'm like you can call it paranoia but I'm I'm thoughtful. I'm thinking people be upset. I want everybody to get along well. I want to compliment implement. People want people to feel good. I like it but for this whole month. I'm not doing anything and his sober October right. So mean are in Burton Tom. We have this thing all over so it's reading a book on right now. Yeah we read five hundred pages. It's good when you were in Berkeley. Read Bert sitting down with a book. It's not reading is so hilarious. He's see it's on the honor system so I think he's probably gonNA. Throw an audio book on just lie yeah you know. I heard you talking about that. No audio books space out like listening to a podcast. No no no. He's got a he's got a is two page book report back. I haven't even started. I haven't started any book. I'm listening to a bunch of books on tape which is most the way soon books but I recommend the book to you. Please get ready. I'm ready. It's called Cupid's poisoned Arrow and it's about how orgasms are ruining us and our relationships ships and our happiness and it talks about how I'm all for this right now and it's a wild concept and I've only read three three chapters of this book. I don't have all the information but what I do know. Is that orgasms are this rush of like blood. Whatever your in your limbic system is all fired up. When you have an orgasm and everything we do in our lives to like have stability and you know kind of lower lower anxiety and depression is about balancing that and not spiking ever so orgasms are throwing us off constantly and we're not supposed to be having this many of them? Men Men should here's the thing though about men and Orgasms is that they you they wanna run right after they come. It's in your DNA to get the fuck outta there because as a caveman there was you can't can't make something pregnant twice so once you came on to the next TV to fuck the girl's cousin that you just like it wasn't about you weren't GonNa. Stay in cuddle twice voice men run yeah. That's not really true what it's only true if you don't actually like the person only attracted them in Horny if you're only attracted to them and Horny but you don't like them as a person yeah once you call me like Oh my God I gotta get Outta here but if you like them as a person once you come you like that. That was great. They just WANNA hang out I. I am actually a man I do trust you but I also think that there you would want to hang out even more if you didn't come doesn't true really yes. Here's my thing though I've had a lot of instances. This book spoke to me because I cannot trace what happens between a guy liking me in in slow fading me then to an orgasm. You're an intense person very smart. You also very ambitious and without any derogatory intent saying saints at all. You're a lot of work but it doesn't mean you're bad you just means. You're Europe powerful person. You got a lot going on yeah intense yeah. You're you're thinking all the time. You know your question my things you question yourself you question this and that and you're just you're a lot of work yeah. Some guys just can't fucking deal and maybe the right guy. Can you gotta find the right guy. There's like everybody. This is my theory on human beings like no one is for everybody. There's not one person out there. That's the perfect fit forever but if you find someone who has your the right slots for your hands like it fits in like this then you're good but it lands like this where they have to things like the big tits and they like to fuck but ours are annoying and they talked too much. You'RE GONNA it's not GonNa work going to work but the problem is men. Men Are Horny all the time they're attract to women right and then sometimes holiness and that attractiveness you get confused and thank you actually like the person and you raise. It seems like you're a liar liar. At the time for you. Come before you come. You're being earnest but then once I got to get the fuck out of here just Yuppie Yuppie Yep Yep. Yep Nonsense Talk. I gotta get the fuck away yeah a- and then some feel but it's your meeting the wrong people. Some people would be perfect with talk fun and funny. That's that's the thing what what she leaves us hanging out you liked me and then. I Suck Your Dick and now you don't watch my instagram stories anymore okay. You can't ask someone. Washer INSTAGRAM's no I'm not. I'm not actually asking that but it's like that's an indication of someone likes you. Why because I mean it's just it's just my friends because as I love dearly. I don't watch any of their fucking stores because you're not you're not dating in on instagram. was you what I wouldn't Joe. Trust me okay. Maybe you're too busy but here's here's my you like. That's how you show you like someone now. Install them up okay. We love how people to hang out with them. You're nice of them. I don't WanNA watch you fucking eat cake on instagram. Watch your fucking boomerangs with a fork full of cake. Yeah you're right so not interested in that. I'm busy should do and time is super valuable for me. I'm not watching anybody's fucking instrument. Okay no one my watch them Washington acts. That's how I know when someone likes me. If A guy's face keeps popping up underneath my story and I'm like Oh my God he's watching my stuff concert works. I didn't even know that someone's wash your instagram stories so you can flip up on them and see. WHO's watching and I'll speak to you point them have watched them and now if a lot of times a guy will be too busy or I'll be too busy but I need. I need to let this guy know that I like him so I'll just flip through them very quick. I won't even watch him what I walk my face to pop up so he knows I'm interested. It's just the way to be like. Hey I'm into you and it's just a way to indicate now it happened. It's happened open to me with a couple of guys that I've really liked that. They're they're interested in then after we hook up no more and it's not because I wasn't good at what I was. I really don't think it's that or like why do you have an idea of what it was without asking well. I have asked and a lot of times or one time they've they've said and then I think it's actually tells me no a couple of times. Actually I I get there too vulnerable with me and then I've seen too much in in terms of like they've let me in in a way emotionally that they've never let a woman in before and then they're like they're I remind them of the fact that they might have cried with me or something and then they don't want to be around anymore. That sounds like what I would say. If I'm trying to get rid of somebody really no. I don't think that's true. I mean if you really love someone and you really love being around them. What do you care if you're vulnerable exactly if you do care about that you're some kind of pussy deserve to be in a relationship anyway that could be it and they could wise Pussy about word. Let's let's talk about the Hussy. Yeah someone saying your pussy like that's ridiculous. Everybody that's straight males. Love seeing a lot of girls love when when a plus the I'm not thinking about the that's why it's so screwy screwy work yeah so we were talking about earlier like with the use of words yeah but pussies a weird one one like it doesn't make any sense like pussies aren't scared of you like it doesn't make any sense yea cat. I think pussy cat came from Pussy. Cat Catholic Saturday smart. Look at the fuck away from me sense. They're not scared as much as their wives. If they were your size you would be fucked fucking freaked out. I'm here to handle. The cats. Were scared because they're little in your big. Fuck you up like this idea that same scaredy cat check account with a squirrel. Watch what the fuck out yes. Cats are serious. Do you know how many fucking animals domestic cats kill in this country every year. Go Home my God billions words billions filkins really billions. Yeah it's fun. It's a crazy number their ruthless little animals yeah. I love him. I love cats I do too. I mean I've never had had number. I got a sweet little buddy named Prince Oliver. He's the best he's a rag. Doll cat just pick them up and he just goes limp starts on. He's the best and does martial again. Get along too harshly along with everybody know everybody squirrels or else scarlet cloth yeah and my daughter has a rabbit that he tried to kill once. Oh yeah rabbit got away though luckily good but now that rabbits well. He taught like hey fuck face. You can't kill around okay. He's who knows a friendly rabbit. I'm going to see some birds after this a bird shop just a parrot shot. My a friend knows about I was like I need some. That's what I was so glad. Marshall came in today. I was like I needed some animal of its so therapeutic. You Forget Lucia. He's so it's so good. Just WanNa snuggle with these great do you have any dogs had two dogs that I gave to my parents because I moved to New York City the and moved to like a tiny apartment for floor walkup and I just started like wishing that they weren't alive which is like crazy. It was just resenting them and like finding myself being a little less kind to them abusive ever but just not as like I love. It's just like every time I've seen them. It'd be like I'm here to walk you like the bitch around them and I and my life was unmanageable and so with them and I was paying so much money for dog walkers. I wasn't even seeing them. People coming in and out of my house and then they were barking when I was gone. They were just had didn't have good lives so I gave them to my parents and my sister. I'm going to see even this weekend but I I love them so much and I wish I wish I had a job. That could have dogs in it. I can't wait to not be on the road so much. It happened in New York. You like living and working yeah. Doing those sets running around. Doing the short sets all over the place. I like it boom boom boom but I do that here too and I'm here Laugh Factory Improv comedy store so I I want to be here and there I haven't decided yet but I'm back and forth with your yard. I know that's when I had dogs and I was happy. She's got a gang of dog. She's gotTa Wrath. Just I got horses much. Show many animals yeah I want what news life when he was the one that told me about that fucking no orgasm book Whitney Save my life with not saved my life but like is changing living my life with a book because I render when time backstage and I was like bitch. How did you get engaged. Why are you so happy. I've known you forever. I've watched from afar in even though you've eclipse like you were always just you know windy and I met I moved down in two thousand six and I found her on my space. Just she had some clip up and I watched it. I was like she's funny. As Hell Alan I reached out and was like let's be friends we do the open mic circuit together and then we kind of went our separate ways and I watched her from afar and she was always struggling with men in the same way I was then all of a sudden and she's engaged in happy insane horses and I asked her one night recently. It was like what did you do and she was like. I read a book and it wasn't that book. It was this other book called getting too who I do. It's such a humiliating title but it just teaches you as a woman to like. Stop trying to run shit because we're so empowered as women now. It'd be like I can have anything anything I want. I want that. I'm going to get it and it relationships. Don't work that way. They sometimes do if you're a more masculine kind of woman which doesn't mean that you're going for a feminine guy. Will it mean it means. You're going for guy who is comfortable in the receiving role but most women want to have a guy. I chased them but US empowered. Women are running around like hey asked me out. Let's go out and it's like men. Don't fuck in want that yes. That's what I'm saying. Those are the feminine him men but not even feminine men men like strong limit. Yes that's what I'm looking for. I realized that I definitely I can't put any way this book just talks about how pick Elaine Feminine Masculine figure out what you are in stick with it and don't try to be both in relationship and it's it's changed changed. A lot of my friends lives and mine yeah just by being like okay. I'M NOT GONNA. Chase these guys anymore. Guy's not reaching out to me. He doesn't like me. Wait wait for him to reach out to me. It's pretty much the whole concept of like he's just not that into you kind of stuff but it's just reminding women that men need to chase shape us in order to feel like they've a feel like men really don't take the power away from them. They're turned on by that. They want to earn our our love and our body. They WANNA earn it. Don't just give it to such a generalization it. It is but it's based in a lot of science the book getting too I do. I Really League yeah this. This doctor wrote this book and title is fucking terrible. Wait a minute. How could you science in regards to emotional connections and relationships. Where's their science. It's I forget but I'm just going to be honest with you. I don't know evolutionary biology than the establishes roles and there's a reason for certain roles and why people pursue certain things and there's studies that have done that but the problem is this generalizations and they apply to one girl's really hot on. She's chasing a guy guys are into it we don't it's not like maybe at first but then they end up resenting. Oh don't believe that I do yeah but I'm a man and you've got to trust what I've what I've I'm not lady. That's gone after some guys that don't deserve me. I don't know if that's what it is. I don't don't know if that's what it is. I think you're intense and I think that's what scares guys. I think that's what it is okay but it's not that you would scare every every guy off. These guys can handle intensity yes. Some people can't take spicy food yeah. That's what it is okay. That makes me feel better. It's it's all all about compatible personalities. It's all about it. I'm also deeply afraid of any kind of intimacy because I have. I mean if you're really breaking down. I have low self esteem which I'm working on. Ever you know your sound like you have low self esteem you call yourself empowered and hot and you see all these good things about yourself. You're out there killing them not as hot as I WANNA be or it would kill to be literally. I would murder someone to be on a couple. If I could get away with if you could look beyond so. How many people would you murder. Do I have to do it by hand and do I get away with a knife with a knife. If it's like bill cosby can murder him. Yuck I yeah but I would if I like the bottom button and five people die if this ability an episode of Black Mirror a room go into a room and bill cosby house be sitting there fucking cataracts and I give you this this knife okay and I say listen. We can make this happen. I've been but I need you to do something for me. Need you go in there and take care of this monster. Yes you stab bill cosby. Yes and he literally is probably the only only person that I could do that to everyone. Harvey wanting I I mean yeah. He's disgusting and probably yeah if I give me the Vanity Fair Fair about him. The like let me refresh -ly read all the accusations like. I need to have it with bill cosby. I just feel like there's been so many stories and I've really sunk my teeth into two a different if you if you let me talk to a couple of victims and hear what he did I mean I could do it to so many people trying to figure out. I don't like violence in that does freak me. I'd rather just strangle him. Hats Zionist pop out was less violent than stabbing him. I don't like blood and like kit heat like even stepping cockroach. You're like have to hear crunch yeah and on the hammer who've that's blood too and and that's like blunt force. I Yeah I could probably do it could you. Oh yeah okay good. I just want good bill cosby rape or my daughter's. Oh my God easy to kill them easy using I'd probably do really do it slow. Oh No throw him off a roof I would act I would actually like go in and act like I was like a fan ruin and be like can I run some jokes by by you and have him like lecture me and like just earn a little bit of his trust and then jump on his chest like a spider monkey. Yeah shake him. Just fucking I can go to town. Yeah feel good. Is it crazy that five years ago no one would ever think that oh I did yeah. This is all no you're right. I mean that would be the what an insane conversation to have like this conversation two thousand nine now. I WANNA kill Bill. What's wrong with you. He's America's Dad. There's someone right now that we could be having this conversation about that. We we don't know that we don't. I don't think anybody is like that because I heard about that guy in nineteen ninety four when I was on Newsradio when I was on a Sitcom they were talking about bill cosby drugging people and I forget who was having a conversation but they were like bill cosby drugs people and I was like what like yeah like it was like inside Hollywood talk like on the set. They were saying that someone knew someone who bill cosby drugged he drugs women have sex with me. He wouldn't make jokes about it. Yes he talked with on late night. TV V slipping a Spanish flying so we drink yes wrote an episode of his show where he was like at a barbecue in like there's something in the barbecue sauce and the girls girls are kind of like Yes yes. Isn't that crazy dude. You know what's been happening to me. Is that so I like I have been you know talking with guys texting with guys face timing all these long distance stuff because I'm scared of intimacy whatever and I've been having these like really intimate moments with men where it's like our our relationship reaches that like Oh this might be something. Let's maybe meet up. We make plans and I find out the next day the they were. I think there maybe on my way to be my boyfriend and they were on Ambien and they don't remember any of it. I've been ambient gained a couple of times and I am by guys that I'm like. They don't have a drinking problem. I'm finally engaging in Lagos sober relationship or so British and then they they they and they don't remember anything and I'm like we made plans to go to Mexico together like you can't get. Jd made dinner when he was on Ambien thought someone broke into his house he went to the store and got like a Turkey and cooked. It made mashed potatoes. Stuffing engraving did the whole thing cooked yeah and then woke up in the mornings and they were like what did you do at night. You Cook what I didn't fucking Cook like. I really thought someone broke into his thousand. Cook dinner at stumps horrible yeah it's so BECA waking up in relationships with me and they're like they didn't know it. They're ready to go to Mexico. What's my passport doing out they. I don't like that and then I'm like well. We go to sleep with like butterflies in my stomach of God. We finally connected tonight. Something happened. He finally saw what I saw the full time and the next day I'll make like kind of like be like so last night like one one guy we had phone sex for the first time we were like and it felt like real sex you know sometimes it can feel very connected phone sex or facetime skype sex. Whatever it is far wait this guy live mid- middle of the country okay yeah midtown. Matab policies maneuver crazy we we finally got naked together on the and I was like Oh my God like this is and it was never really sexual before that like there was little things like when is this. Guy GonNa make fuck and move and like he did but he was on Ambien in blackout. Didn't remember any of it okay shoes. I was so pissed because the next day at work I was skipping around. I was like dude. Tell my girlfriend's like I met a got like this. Guy Is like the guy that I've been talking to them about. I've a radio show every morning ago. In debrief my producers only last night we like hooked up and it's happening and and then I talked to him later on and he was just like wait. What are you talking about and I was like and he goes. I don't really I didn't even know we talked last night. It was it just sucked walked and then it happened to me recently again. There's a lot of people on that ship a lot. I did it recently. My friend gave it to me because I I. I guess I shouldn't say that but my I took some and I couldn't say you shouldn't say that. You just don't say the friend's name yeah okay all right okay. So what can they also gave you. I was working with Bill Cosby. He was my friend and because I was just having a really rough time I did the the Roosevelt Baldwin and I was not getting enough sleep which I know you as we're talking about the other night's sleep is everything yeah and I had a meltdown tonight at a net flicks taping to do the next night. My friend was like take ambien. You're not gonNA sleep otherwise I took it and it took instagram off. My phone took twitter off my phone. I cleared my room of food because you know what's going to happen. Get the best night's sleep in my life though goes off your. I don't know if I'm GonNa get racist when I do Ambien. What if that is what causes him? I don't know what can happen. Plan that far warhead instagram on your phone. My ambien state would have had to go into the APP store. Download it type in my you know like a lot of things very clever thing. That's very smart of you. I don't WanNA get cancelled yet. I mean someday I will. WanNa get canceled because that's Nicks. No not even rise again to be good. I'm out. I'm going to go start my bird rescue or whatever the hell you know it'll be. I'll be okay. It's very difficult to get comics canceled in less third doing something you gotta get mean even a Z's which I think he got fucking terrible deal like what happened with him was tear it sound like a bad date it sounds like one person's account of it and he didn't give his account of it and you know he just tried to stay supportive of me to all that jazz but got devastated as we got wrecked by that really wrecked and his specials a great indication of it you see as recent special to China apology. I haven't seen it yet but I mean he's a funny guy and he didn't get canceled me still doing shows and everything but as Louis CK he's still doing Charles but those guys earn an example Louis more so right. He's an example because people are protesting no one's protesting Aziz and he had a bad date yeah but no but Louis to this day still getting protested like he's like people show up at his shows they print every time he does a show somewhere they care he's fine. I don't Oh you don't care about him or you. Don't like he's fine. He'll be fine. Yeah motionlessly sure you don't. Oh care like emotionally I think he's going to be. I think it's all like you're going to upset some people. They're GONNA protest but it's not gonna can affect your ticket. Sales are how much people love you and he knows that and he's GonNa be quite alright. It's not the people that do love him. It's the people that hate him. It's like this always going to be a certain amount. The people that do love you even if you're a terrible purse yeah. If you like look Donald Trump is one of the things that's fascinating about him to me is that he's the king of the assholes like he's a self avowed asshole very obvious that he's an asshole and then other assholes like you've got an asshole speaking for us and they. WanNa wear sunglasses inside inside. I mean this. This is what he attracts so even if you're an asshole. You're going to get a bunch of people who love you. There's just if you're in the public eye. People choose cult leaders right. They don't choose them for their positive qualities they get sucked into this idea of this person liking them and being on a team with this person and if that the person's a strong person it's even more intoxicating. Donald Trump's a strong person celebrities are strong. People celebrities are famous like I you know everybody hates you but I support you. There's your going to have those what you've done. There's people out there that still show up our Kelly's trial and they have post signs and say we support you do those bitches knew what they were in for the really this is this is something that's going on right now to this day is because people get incredibly drawn to someone someone who's in a position of fame and power like like Donald Trump poor or anybody in louise one of those too so it's it's not that the people who love him don't don't always love him and people would love Louis before and they forgive him for what he's done but this is going to be people that don't and those people that don't and they write articles just like if he reads them. Burns on you hurt hurt too and he's a super sensitive guy all this stuff. It's like he's GonNa be fine. Yes but it's still it's not devastating yeah but did he cause a little bit of devastation. In some people's lives perhaps for sure for sure eye for an eye and I really think like the the women and the angry people who don't like him and earn are going to show wouldn't have gone to them anyway and yet Google alert for your name when when who go to turn off their feet and one at a ten articles is maybe negative about you but he's doing all right. I mean like I talked to him. After it one night at the comedy cellar I mean told me some examples of things that have been said to him in public like because I just asked him I was like what is it like for you. This is right when he came out of hiding and and he told me some stories of things that had happened in public where a woman once whispered in his ear fucking piece of Shit like at a you know he's at a store or something and then another one where just a woman blatantly in the street was like fuck you you know and it was like Oh my fucking God. This is a nightmare for you walking outside hide your house and I'm like does this is oh no those are the only two times of the whole year and it was like okay well that seems manageable and he goes. He says ten times a day. People are still asking for my picture autograph so so. I don't think he's suffering that much. I don't think he deserves to suffer that much. I'm just saying I think think as many people hate him as maybe would have anyway because no one can be famous for too long without people hating them. Well you know he said a big. One was a big. When was that Park Land thing that joke that he made the got released. You said that that really really really fucked him out the response to that because it was after he just starting to stand up again after ten months off and then he did that joke about Park Land Mars about like why are they interesting and because as you push the fat kid in front because he survived like you're you're laughing see it's a fucked up thing that someone would say at a club when you take that out of context then people get angry grrrrrreat but that is a classic Louis C. K. Line. I mean that sounds exactly like we went in before one hundred this whole thing one hundred percent now. He's walking a fine line. He can't also the very beginning the embryonic stages of a bit in that monster bit totally yes it. You're you're so right. That was the first ten yeah no stand up at all for ten miles isn't that he's got this bit and he's working on it and he's got an angle. The angle is why are we these survivors just because they survive doesn't mean they're interesting. That's that is true. It is true it could have been an amazing bit but some fuck head how to record it and then put it on Youtube and then you've got guys like Judd APPA towel yelling out about it like is Louise's final statement on the subject and it's this especially by other comics that I found that whole thing to be so fucked up. It's like you know what a bit is. Yeah and you know when someone's trying. Don't you ever ever troy. I've said some stuff on stage. where I I even say to the crowd listened? That didn't come out right. I don't please don't tell anyone that I just said that the cool of course so I definitely understand that I understand saying things that make people feel really sad and angry. Arri and they feel hurt by it and they write mean things to me saying that have hurt their feelings and it feels Chitty when people hate you it feel so I do feel for him that way. I do and that's why I asked ask them. Like what is it like. You're the most beloved and then you were hated. I mean that's gotTa fuck and suck and he said he would have done that. He would have gone to Africa to or whatever you know somewhere to disappear but his kids couldn't leave and so he had sit around with it so super hard I sympathise are I can empathize with that for sure in that would suck and I'm not immune to getting fucking cancelled. I'm sure have said Shit before that she's waiting to resurface it should on that roast the John and do the rose. I was like this stuff isn't gonNA age well. We're going. You know it's scary. You went hard in the paint dude. I sp- I was supposed to go so much harder to yeah yeah. I had to cut a lot of jokes jokes because Caitlin Jenner didn't want US talking about her car crash so Jesus Christ that was like the bulk of don't be here. I know she didn't even know that. It was possible that we were going to do that. Oh my gosh I was like I know A comedy central told me they're like listen. We don't think Caitlyn knows that those jokes are coming and I was like will you tell her or will someone give her a heads up like and they're like we. We don't WanNA alert her because she might not want to do it now. So who decided to not do the jokes. I was doing the jokes around town to get ready for it like I was this going. Caitlyn Jenner such a beautiful woman. You killed with your car for years ago. You know stuff like that. I loved you on keeping up with the car crashing just like differ. I think I love that you. I love the era woman. That can't menstruate yet. You still manage to have blood on your hands like great jokes and and you can't mend straight men truly menstruate through yet you still managed to get your period but you still managed to have blood on your hands and and I was like my favorite jokes of my set. They elected this like the best I was working in the setup for like a month before and who told you to not do them well comedy central strongly advised me not to they never said you can't they've never said that to me which is decided not to because. Caitlin Jenner heard the morning of of they call with her the morning of the rose that she had heard apparently someone is doing jokes about me and my car crash and if they do if I hear the Oh sing that was a very devastating thing that happened to that family and a woman lost her life and if there's a joke about it I will walk and awesome. That's what I told. Gami central been awesome before. I heard this. I was like if she gets upset because they were like if she gets upset. There might be the moment where you know she. The cameras go to a promise. I was going I. I was doing all the jokes about the car crash now. If I would've sat her first Christoff than the whole shows thrown off and it's the room I said wound be great at press is good press. It's GonNa get rid and up so much more guys come on. You should've said yeah yeah yeah whatever and just went up and did it. I was going to just don't put the jokes in the prompter because then they haven't signed off on it going rogue so go Rogan so I so I went up or so that morning I woke up and I was still kind of like maybe do a softer version of those jokes I was. I was GONNA mess. tweak them a little bit. I was GONNA say Caitlyn Jenner. What a beautiful woman. You accidentally killed with your I was going to end the word accidentally just to like soften it and make factual cool yeah and then coming senator called and they said that she had said she'll walk and that's when I decided I'm not going to do it. I don't WanNa this woman to walk off stage. I don't want I don't want to really as I just think. It's so strange that we're calling her. A woman really love it. I love the chaos of it like this. Love this woman. Oh uh-huh yeah. That's not a not a manual. I'm so proud of myself when I don't even have to think about it anymore for a while. It was like make sure you say woman make sure say she example of it because she's such a dummy. It's like when when she talks. It's it's so disappointing wish shed more insight on it like there's there's women that transition brilliant in the other day just like dumb men begin transition to women and then there suddenly like these amazing women. Lincoln got it was a dumb guy he was he was a male Kardashian and then all the sudden. He's like celebrated. Laurel Grinders Walmart vol primer wonder woman of the Air aw you know what the best purpose that he served she serves for those Kyle Dunnigan instagram feed God. Does that's another thing thing that comedy central cutout comedy central was doing Kyle Dunnigan show whereas all like face wash it and he had a bit where we're Caitlin was fucking donald trump and she was on top of Donald Trump. It was God damned hilarious showing it to me. I was in the Green Room of the comedy store crying. I mean crying. Latin and he's like comedy central cut that no no no they can't do it. What what are you talking about. You know you got a face swap. Show knows naked it was she was just on top of. Donald Ryan War would have been so good. He's genius. He's genius genius the funniest part one of the finest people all ever know for sure the funniest ever instagram's. Yes yes sure yes instagram's fetus. Yep I go to it every couple of days because it takes a while for him to create he's doing gets so excited headed when he was a new one dylan on their make me laugh a lot. Yes yes awesome. McCain so funny because Tim has gay because he's like this. He looks like you'd be a Frat boy. But then you find out of these guys like Whoa you can get away with a lot more really can he is great and he's sober sober which is crazy. This guy has got to be on hard drugs when he's doing that. Meghan McCain expression like what kind of drugs so right on air breathing air drinking water. He's Kito now. Oh yeah you need a God well. He got freaked out by a couple of people's. It was health issues. What is a new one. What is he doing. Oh my God. This was breath. I WANNA thank beach body for making me their spokesperson product. Since the beginning Komo triathlete a lot of weight though yes good good so he got scared USA well yeah I mean and you know he's he's. He's very very heavy and you know he just was realized through fucking Meghan McCain. Give me a Meghan McCain only only gal on the panel who held up a Boston market this weekend. I'm going to talk a little bit about guts okay. A lot of people in the media have never shot. They've certainly never masturbated with one. They have no idea what the fucked my not for sale but by Pussy as and the prices. PF changs hunt me in the backyard. I would run around and they shoot. Would it me and my father said if we hit or the only thing that's GonNa come out is whipped cream. He was hilarious. Fifteen is the most popular in America and it's the only thing that's ever made me com. Tell me what guns I can. Own is fucking nuts. Oh Oh yeah poor magnum to have seen that key yeah. He's a we were talking about the BR so anyway I just decided not to do the jokes because I didn't want to upset her and it was it sucked because it would have been nice to know leading up to that because I was is preparing but I just didn't want to. I don't WanNa make people feel about. I'm GONNA walk or are yeah mine. What do you expect you had Alec Baldwin Sucking Daughter. Come up and tell jokes about what a horrible daddy it now and you can't you can't own up to the fact that you crashed into someone yeah yeah. Did you make jokes about her. Oh Yeah I I said I just made fun of the fact that she was a terrible father. At one point in like abandoned one of our families to go do a reality show so I really leaned into that yeah she had brody Jenner and a couple others is brody yeah. He's the most famous of her sons but she had a whole family before the Kardashians that she didn't watch grow up even though they were just like down the road down the PCH yeah. Do you know that for a fact yeah it was like an episode of the Kardashians wasn't around for your lives and yeah but she was like so nice during the when I was doing the jokes. She was like so happy about all the jokes about her abandoning her family. She was like I love What's the death one. That has a problem with yeah yeah. It was weird here because it happened. During the celebration of becoming a woman yes she was right in the thick of the transition and they had a settlement she settled. I think there was some kind of fault who knows accidental but soups. She did not want to relive it who would right but listen. I had with my car wants to Ju. Yeah almost killed him. WHO's tearful was here wafting. No he did not walk right after on the street when you hit him garbage man picking up collecting across the street jumped out from the car didn't seem sixteen just got my license and flew up on the hood for Lou into the grass. I thought that killed them and it was terrifying and he sued me for years later. Under the statute of limitations now had to go to court and then it came out on the stand that he was a child Molester N- so I one Oh oh it was kind of fucked Karma Yeah Yeah you're great person you pick the right person car holy Shit. He's a child molester. Have you ever almost killed someone. No no luckily fuck. That's crazy yeah. It's made me one time time in a in a fight. In martial arts fight. I knocked out never got up and I started thinking that could be me because they took the hospital and I went back to talk to my instructor in he wasn't there. It was in Anaheim California and I was living in Boston. We back to Boston after the tournament and he the you said to me. I heard you had a really good knockout thick Korean accent and said Yeah I go it was it was really scary because he never got up. I thought it was dead and he goes sometimes they die. She just walked away like he used to train troops in Vietnam a non like he was like an intense guy and I was like sometimes they holy Shit. I'm them them as me. I could die. I was nineteen and I remember I. I never thought about the same way again. I never thought about hitting someone the same way again because it was one of those sometimes you hit. Someone and it's like a perfect shot like the hit them. They were running. He was running he was coming at me and I kicked him with. Something called the wheel kick. It has a crazy amount of power you spin around down and you hit someone with the heel of your foot. It's a heart my he'll hurt for days knows limping walking from his head. Yeah it was rough. Have you ever been hidden away. That could be no no no. I've been dropped. I've been rocked in a definitely been hit but I've never been knocked unconscious and not like that that was a bad one and he was like facebook face plant that he was snoring. I've seen a lot of people get knocked out. Have you checked on him recently. I have no idea who is Lau of know of no idea what happened open to him he gave more. Cte probably hundred murdered his whole family at this a hundred percent. He got brain damage. What's one hundred percent. What one hundred percent low oh Joe's no way he didn't all my God he didn't but could that happen to you. Of course it could have happened absolutely but it happened to you now that era fighting don't do it anymore. I do too but to jitters not striking to just is not. It's not like kick in this was not like sparring this fight. This is in the US nationals the Massachusetts state champion and he was a champion. I think he was from Illinois and the Illinois state champion. Did you get so much plus the back then for me. Running fights groupies knows no group. No I got the opposite of Pussy. I was always training yeah yeah. I wouldn't even have my girlfriend in the DOJ. Oh I wouldn't like she was teaching there so like once. She was horning morning. She's trying to hook up with me. I had to go up there to do something clean or something. I forget what I had to do but she was trying to keenly. Don't this is not we can't do this here. This is never can happen here. which is like? I would fuck alleyway fucked around a bus. If no one was looking out there no it's actually and Koreans called dodging that would go though Jiang but now I didn't get any other than my girlfriend and then when you start comedy like so much dude food was I was the crazy thing like all of a sudden girls actually like me like instead of me liking them and then rejecting me because I was basically a loser you know even even though I was like a successful martial arts I had no money and no future prospects and there was no promise to me. You know it's like where's this guy going. See this this for yourself eventually like not exactly this but like no just being happy successful. You really felt like a loser like GonNa do wow now. I saw have extreme social anxiety. Believe it or not like manifest itself. I always talk about like The bank teller was a weird one for me. I always got super nervous talking to bank. Thank Towers. I gotta be in line. There's like three people in front of me. Three more people are GonNa talk to the lady. More people are going to talk to the lady. I get weirded out. Get I had pretty extreme social anxiety. I think I just didn't have good self esteem. I just thought it was a loser and then what made you do stand up. Well I had friends from my martial arts days. The talked me into it and said you are funny and I would make them laugh. When we were on our way to top competitions. Everybody was so nervous just because he's a full contact tournaments and people got knocked unconscious all the time like my friends got knocked unconscious. All I mean we I've seen so. Many people get fucked up and everybody would be tense so I would be guy who broke the ice. I would be making everybody gallows humor. I'd make everybody laugh and then my friends. Steve who I'm still dear friends with this day. He Steve Graham. He said you should be a comedian and I was like there's no way man you think. I'm funny because you're my friend I go. The things that I think are funny. Everybody else is GonNa think I'm an asshole like it's just fucked my sense of humor fucked up but he he talked me into it and then I went to an open mic night and then I realized that Oh open mic nice. Everyone sucks like you're just trying to start out like we're all amateurs so my thought was like at least. I won't be as bad as the worst guy. I'll probably be better than the worst guy so. Maybe I could try this and then I went up. I did it and then once I did. It once knew I was going to do it. When did you stop feeling like a loser. Uh couple of weeks ago. I'm not convinced. Do you secretly feel like do you do you are you insecure still are used to struggle with self esteem at all no not really not but I used to definitely have imposter syndrome you know even when things are really good like with sold out theater and like they introduce my name and like as I was walking out and people cheer and this is not this is not seem real. I'm tricking these fucking people once again and even when it was over coop trick them again you know Yup. It's weird. It's a I think that's healthy though because the idea of being a famous famous person or being a celebrity is it's a crazy state the doesn't it's not supposed to exist. You're not supposed to be able to go to a place where ten thousand thousand people have paid money to hear you talk for an hour. I mean that is fucking. Bananas doesn't exist in nature. It's not a normal state for a human being to be able to manage so if you thought like that's normal and you deserve it and it's not special and strange then. I think that that would be weird right to think it's special and on strange always but appreciate it. I think that's the way to do appreciate. I know I can do it but the reason why I know I can do because I do it all the time to work really hard at it so I know I show up. I know I have my act ready. Know Unprepared. I don't take it lightly. Yes it means a lot to me if you eat. I feel the same way if I've worked hard enough. I feel like I deserve it but if I if I don't if I've had a lazy week and I'm performing and I'm making big bucks for a big deal and they haven't even looking at looked set lists or just. I feel guilty and I feel this way that I combat. Imposter Syndrome is like I had a therapist one sometimes say who do you think that you are that you can fool these people you think these people are that stupid and you're so smart and you're tricking all of them so I try to remind myself of that like when I think these audit this audience doesn't and fucking know how untalented I am just here because they think I'm something I go. Who Do you think you think you're smarter than these people. These are smart people. They know what they like well. You're on into smart people but let's be honest. There's a lot of dummies out there. They've tapped into river of fucking idiots. Yes that's that's real to the idea idea that just because you have a lot of people coming to see that you really good. That's nonsense now. You have to be good. People always are like other means are so mad at Comedians who are hacks that have huge the following is and I'm like dumb. People need to laugh too. It's like dumb dumb movies. Everyone needs entertainment movies. Are there the fucking eighty of them right. Yeah you ever try to watch one of those things now. Give your brain damage yeah. Change Your Life have you. Have you actually strass yeah. We should watch clips. Yeah I mean like look. I don't mean to pick on that guy. I mean do great. I used to be a homeless person now. He's just got a star on the walk of fame controversies to him. It's not my kind of movie but obviously a lot of people love it. There's a lot of movies that are for little kids that that if you watch them they're terrible watch kids. I watch movies with my kids and I was like Jesus. Crisis movies awful and they're like yeah four for nine year olds yeah. I think it's hilarious. Not Everything's going to be for anything yeah. I just have a instead of getting mad at like. Why is that person so successful. I would just go well. Their our audience needs that and they're not going to enjoy you. They can't and not because they're not smart enough. It's just like I don't know I don't speak to them and I can't speak to everyone and that's frustrating wondering being y other people's success or wondering why other people are successful is the refuge of losers yes. It's a loser mentality. It's a loser occupation. It's a it's a it's a loser practice because you're wondering why other people are successful like who gives a fuck. You can say you think it sucks but to spend in time wondering why someone is successful and hating on some success saw it doesn't do any good. What is that old expression that jealousy is. It's a poison that does the opposite of its intended doesn't affect the other person at all but poisons yourself yeah waste your your energy and time it just is so it's so indicative that you are insecure. Yes it's like people don't realize how what giveaway that is when they are talking shit. You're just like us. This is just showing me that you don't like yourself. Well I figured out. There's something I figured out personally and I try to relay this and I try try to be more clear and more concise away relate. Where a look at it. Is that your mind you have. A certain amount of bandwidth is why I don't read instagram program comments or twitter comments or youtube comments like I don't mean time if I read them. It's an accident but to seek them out like you have bandwith with. I don't spend time wondering why hate things or hating. Things are hating on someone or being jealous you have. Let's say let's call it units. You have one hundred units units of Ben Within your mind so that means. There's a hundred units. You can spend on things you care about or you can let your mind be occupied. Why some stupid fucking can twitter feud that you're in with some idiot you don't even know and you could spend thirty percent of your twitter band with your your your mind bandwith on this and then you'll have seventy percent the things you love and then maybe you're involved in some fucking relationship but someone who's an idiot and you're arguing back and forth with them well. There's another thirty percent. That's gone now. You Got Yup forty percent left. You have forty percent for the things you love instead of one hundred percent but if you only concentrate on the things you care about that means something to you and learn how to do that like you. We're talking about meditation. Yeah it's a form of meditation yet because you're learning how to avoid the little road bumps in the ditches on the side of the road son hear bands and give them a little bit and go okay no no no but he could lean in like how you saying when you stop drinking all of a sudden your career took off start start doing well with more bandwith and less problems problem that you had that was rotting you away. No longer existed. Snell said it frees frees up your time and you realize Oh my God. There's so many things that I could talk about and I have so much energy and I'm so healthy I could just go on stage and have fun and then you're killing it when was was the last thing that you know got like maybe gave it a little too much bandwidth. Do you still struggle with those things and not really anymore but it's been a gradual process. I remember the first a jealous dude in stand up like when you first started out you had to have hated the guy that was getting ahead like right. I don't know any male comic doc. I definitely wasn't the beginning yeah what happened to that. You successful in detail before it was successful before accessible. I realized it was stupid long before because when I was like an amateur I would see guys that were killing an and I'd be like fuck him like why is he doing good like the guy sucks disguise socks. you know why how come he got this. He got that and then I remember thinking like this is a gigantic waste of time and I got into comedy because a fan of comedy comedy and my concentrating on people that suck or being jealous about people that are doing well does me zero good but instead if someone does as well I can be inspired and I can get fired up by I mean I figured this out my early twenties. I was like okay. This is a poor way of looking at it because it's a martial arts thing because in martial arts like you can't be jealous of someone else's ability you have to realize you might have to fight them some day so by realizing they're really good you. You were forced to be objective about it and you have to go to work like you have to go fuck. That guy's better than me. I gotta get better and you have to go to work right you you. There's no there's no positive benefit in underestimating someone underestimating someone will get you fuck and killed like literally. Shins Shen smashed in your face like you don't want to fund yourself that the things that you're jealous of them for aren't really as good that will get you killed else so that's that's it dude totally it because the things that I get jealous of or have and I'm better about it now than I've ever been but you know you see other women. I mean my jealousies are always with other women. It's just the way it is like and I have to fight. It and I'm really good about it now to be like actually inspired by women who were funnier than me but but that's awesome but to use it to be like okay then. I need to be better. I need to get up to that level that is I need to go home and write like fires me up as opposed to like why and it's powerful for everybody. It's powerful for them powerful for you. It's like there's no negative aspect to it. It's like you should be thankful that these women out there that make you feel uncomfortable yet yet like when I see someone just murderer onstage fuck. I WanNa go to work right. I want to get home and right yeah. I WANNA I wanna go perform like fuck. I just killed or holy. You should just crushed. She's out there killing it and he's he's doing so good. It makes me want to work harder and in that sense find. Someone's not doing anything bad as lonesome not victimizing someone. What they're doing is they're? They're they're. They're showing you that. It's possible to do better than you're doing. Yeah that's good you need to. You need to know that the second you get comfortable and you think you're the best. There's nothing to well you. I'm sure you've gone into a town and like there's local comedians and there's like a guy who was like a funny local guy. He's terrible able because the community sucks he because there's no one there. There's one pushing them fucking need. Each other has so many killer. La has so many killers because there's so many any of US whenever I go back and forth to different coasts. It's like you just the styles are so different but like when I moved to New York you you had to follow Dave attell. You'RE GONNA rise you have to you have to where you're going to drown. Yes so it's I'm always encouraged by being around people. I always want to follow when you're like. I don't want to follow a tell. I don't WanNA follow Chapelle. Whatever it's like. No I do have to because it's it's a challenge and yeah it's inspiring. I want to get back to the fact that I wanna think what's the last thing that derailed you in terms of bandwith. You're about to answer like what's went to kind of. Get Out of your life not one instance instance but it's a slow progression and also my career like I became successful. During the time that the Internet it came to be so it was all happening like people being able to comment on you and say things that was all completely new thing and everyone had learn how to navigate those waters because it I I would treat people that were saying something online like a heckler like if someone would heckle you and say something and then you'd be like what fuck you you and then you would own them right in like an early Internet days. That's what people did have. These flame wars would call where people go back and forth with each other and you would let it was a lot more of that yeah there is now. It's a waste of time always a waste of time you then. You realize like this isn't a heckler. This is like you're getting a message judge. The world can't hear it like so you have to decide if you're going to concentrate and then put all your energy and broadcast to the world that you're involved in this this altercation with this other person. It's fucking pointless. We see it all the time with people people get sucked into these traps. I see with fighters like UFC fighters all the time they getting in these fights with fans like someone will say something to them and they'll they'll reply and then we'll go to reply to me and it's wasted time and it just took a while to realize for me. What's positive what's negative. It doesn't mean I'm immune to criticism or that. I don't deserve criticism like everybody does and there's Times where you're going to misstep. Stop or you're going to say something. That's not correct or foolish or not as funny as you thought it was. When you were thinking you were going to say that's just part of being a person but to engage constantly in swimming in the to the deep waters of other people's criticism and opinions random Internet net people. It's like God damn it. That's so much bandwidth. It's so much so much you could use one hundred percent of your van with on that and some people do some people goddamn goddamn crazy. I've met people that are just like googling themselves and reading their own. Internet comments all day long and just going crazy and fighting with with people all day long and going crazy and it it it gets in no matter how much you're like fuck. This guy gets. I was doing like a live instagram yesterday on the way the airports talking to some fans and one guy was like wow you look a lot better with makeup because I was like no makeup on looked like Shit and and go fuck you your blog got him out of there and I go. I'm on I'm going to be honest with you. Guys is going to bother me the rest of the Goddamn Kim Day because this guy just said what I actually think about myself that no one actually saying to me and that's when it hurts is like when someone nails something about you're like I secretly but it's probably just me no one else sees it and I had to admit like I'm I was going to think about that later and it might make me not do one of these again because I don't want someone to say something like that and bring it to everyone's attention. It's so much I've since the last time I was here and we talked a lot about my obsession session with looks and being pretty or hot or whatever it is. I've let it go but it's still it's still there. It's really really hard to overcome and you're hot dude. I mean how do you let go of that as you age. You're like you know like you've you definitely. Camilli have some value wrapped up in your looks as someone who's attractive and fit and I think it's different from the news for woman because there's a lot of ugly dues with hot wives because because the ugly dudes are successful. There's very few new ugly women with hot husbands. The guys are gay yeah yeah because because why would a man ever be with a woman less attractive than well this men with women that are less attractive with them because they're interested in their personality or their sense of humor. That's real yeah yeah but the the disproportionate love that some disgusting older men have and with hot women like Lil Duval okay. We'll do fucking love that dude. He's got something on his instagram. Pull this up. It's this guy in a tub and he's like this older dude. You'd got this young lady that sitting on his lap in front of him and he she's asking him what she she likes him. I just play this out. We'll play play this because it's fucking hilarious. Play this swatches. Let just listen this attitude You're physically attractive and it takes a lot of things to make a person to like somebody okay. He needs physical attraction. You debase. I can tell you a chance to carry person Cockatiel on him. Learn more of accused by wishes to try and do Alison. I'm just saying I just want to be taken care of and not like the Chanel store. I don't want Mike Betas Kmart. That was your choice because you want to articulate because there's like we're not too far from from all all those stores where there's like better stores I I. I'm not GonNa find anything. That fits meeting came. Hey so you're gonNA take me shopping. You got to get stores Woody Lila. He's like insider taken. Almost seventy looks to me yet and not really a handsome. Robert read everything to not look at it and she looks like She's about thirty and Lina and her tits are floating above the water. Yeah Hollow Yeah See. I'm talking about possible. That's real. That's real lip that flipped at no. It doesn't exist. Doesn't it from your Old Lady with a hot lean young man Joe. I've been having a lot of young dudes coming after me like what you're young. Sto- Although I know I'm thirty five but I've been having young guys like a mature woman who still hot who's physically fit yeah and smart and interesting interesting like it's weird about it though thirty lady and I fantasize new right like I'm an old lady. I don't want anyone to be like Cougar over thirty five thousand five and I've got like twenty two year olds twenty year old. It's getting pretty low really get on top. Choke them. You know whatever into no I don't but it's not weird. I just don't want to be an old. I don't want them to only thank me. 'CAUSE I know what way too much fuck. You think way too much how we stop. I don't know about that Kinda Shit. Just enjoy it. WHO gives a shit. That's also no one really positive aspect of drinking that I mean. I'm telling you I still drink. How will the U nineteen in crummy Mama's Percy. I really miss drinking for you're so right so much because man that was the only way I used to have sex was to drink and now it's just so difficult for you have to find some actually like and then that's scary because that was not gonna be intimacy so I am stuck between intimacy and banging an I I haven't had sex in May. Oh it before that even longer and only slept with one person person HCT October October June July August September October five five months five months of my little like best looking year of my life wasted and understand that are you meeting guys. It's not that I can't have sex. It's that I won't let myself because I get to attach to people and I feel like it's it so you worry that if you do have have sex with them that it's going to be too much they'll they'll not they'll stop watching my instagram story. The next day and I will be so sad. You should not have an instagram feel the problem well. They'll stop texting me. They'll stop something will stop and I will feel so sad and I'm avoiding that that sadness the of sleeping with someone too soon doctor and it just yeah it sucks yeah. I think just you're just interacting with the wrong people yeah yeah I mean. I don't know who's the right person for. You know. You never really can tell no you can't I mean just know when it happened. How whoa she's Super Nice Person. How did you meet her at a bar really where Texas and Oh God. It's like Matt Damon. That's how he met his wife. I don't know why I just love to know how people met their webs- you. You have to find someone first of all. It's going to be able to deal with the fact that you're a comic right. Yes you're dating other other comics which I am well. That's good. I guess everyone's like don't do that going and Christina position best couples that motion casher and the Tasha Lazaro great great couple. I it's possible and obviously there are people that are gonNA understand you. Yes I understand what you do but like a regular. Agla dude is going to have a problem with you. Being the funny one like a lot of dudes have a problem you know but some some people like are fine with it like Elisa Elisa husband Sheff. He's super chill guys awesome now. He really is so chill he just like hangs like it's a perfect complement to her personality yeah so Brash and outrageous you know and she's so powerful and he's like mellow dude. You know like hanging out and you know it's it's like they worked together and he's he's not a weak man. He's just calm. You know they worked together right and you're gonna find someone like that. You gotta find someone who who complements your personality in a way but it's just like. I don't know how you meet someone like that. When your girl comedian I think women Comedians. It's a unique some requirement that you have for other people because the thing where men always want to be the center of attention right the man wants to be the Alpha they wanna be the one who's talking looking like Clink Clink Clink Ladies Gentlemen Bob's going to give a toast you want that asshole and when you got a wife or girlfriend who's a fucking way funding Johnathan you not only she funnier than you. She's fucking funny professionally yeah. I'm funnier now. Everyone that isn't a comic and then a lot of comics mcadoo. Conflict People like you need a comedian. I'm like I'll be funnier to it but it is hard and you're so right about that like I see e how much pussy men get thrown at them doing standup because even I get wet for standups like I know the tricks and I'll be watching a guy with like killing killing. There's there's so much attraction when you see an audience all like watching this dude on stage and he's commanding them with laughter and telling you know controlling patrolling their emotions. You just get wet because you're like he's cavewoman brain. It's like he's our tribe leader the leader I need to fuck him. He's GonNa Protect Me. During wartime like that's the difference between men and women because men don't get that when a woman shot from the kitchen yeah I remember Theo von telling me recently he was like I hated your comedy and I'm like what I did not like you when you go. I've always been funnies. Understand your commute. Your funny funny funny. He's like it wasn't that it was just like your voice like reminded me of like mom mom or something my mom's always yelling at me and I was like there. It is a he even was like can't believe I'm saying this to you and I was like like I like it because we remind you of your mom's female comics. If you've been an overbearing mom telling you like it is what it is all the time share shut the fuck look out ladies female comics if I had an overbearing mother so I empathize with that. Theo so crazy so fucking crazy so greasy he's it's funny though he's just so ridiculous so funny well. He's so funny. He's so theo I don't know anybody that has his style even remote promote his style so uniquely him. It's so hard to be that unique and you watch him near like this isn't cultivated. This isn't who it's just who he is how he he was able to. That's not easy to do is be as funny as you are with your friends on stage and he's worked really hard at and he's just tailed at man well he's just. I don't know he's just got this thing that when he's fun like like brody had this thing like yeah like if you wrote the things that they say on paper it's not funny but you see them in person fucking dying these figure out a rhythm a rhythm of comedy that just didn't exist exist before them yeah brody has like it was unfortunate with some of the clips that were going around that people saw for the first time where he would do late night. It wasn't the brody that we all talk of as um saying well those late night spots ever no one understands you have to be in the room first of all you have to realize that this is a fucking two o'clock in the morning set of show that started eight PM. Yes I mean also like I don't know if you agree with this but my my take on Standup Biz even anybody even the most brilliant comedian when you watch them on a special. It's seventy percent as funny is if you see them. Live live. Maybe always might be less might be less. It'd be sixty percents nailing it. I've never liked someone more on special done then. I've I've seen lying possible. When you're there is a crackling in the air when someone's on stage is a feeling when you're in the room with them and they're saying live like they're saying like the part of what stand up is is? It's happening right in front of you. When you watch Netflix special you know that took place in May like if someone someone watches Bang and I'm sure it's hilarious yeah but you know it happened in. May you're not in the room. It's a recreation. It's a recreation of something and breath. You're so right. I forget how great stand up can be sometimes to just watch because I'm just I do myself and I leave. Sometimes you have to like hang out and watch. It's so good it's great it. fucking are still love it. You're always watching your got about that. I would watch it and I try to blow up people that are coming up yeah up and coming yeah same yeah we watch how do you how do you pronounce your last name. Laura a beats is that I've never heard so on my instagram page the other day me and Ah Kreischer we did a set in the main room sold outside the main room and then. How do you say your last name? G. Crises funny though she was performing in in front of Twelve fucking people in the or and Burton. I said let's just sit down and watch them. Call me for a while and she's murdering an atom Egoyan had been telling me about that'd be Lara L. A. R. T. fucking murder murderer and so while we're on stay stay a while she was on stage. There's twelve people in the audience and the audience doubled during the time. She was on stage L. A. R. E. It it I'm telling you the the fucking we were dying. She was murdering and this is what you did one thirty. AM spot to food. I got to see her. That's what the comedy store is all about. It's like one day. You're going to see that girl. She's going to have a Netflix special and you're GonNa say I I remember I was at the fucking comedy store. It was one thirty in the morning. The show like we're thinking about leaving. This lady went up and murdered Stanford is so great I'm so luckily yeah stumbled into it if you took that clip and then made a video on youtube in a tiny little screen you watched it on your phone. You're not going to get the real feeling that Burton. I got sit it in the back of the room watching her. He's not GONNA get. It got to go see comedy live. That's what basically specials are right like ads. Just we're showing people how good we are so they'll come. See US live. Yes it's way better. Live but ads are never. It's never as good as the movie. It's I always tell people to go to shows alone own because I feel like so. Many people miss out on going to see comedy because they go to shows alone ways why because dude so many people aren't going to your shows because they can't find friends to go and they feel like losers if they go alone and really yeah a lot of people don't do things like because they think oh if. I can't find a date eight or can't find a friend then. I'm not going to go so many people miss out on stuff and it's like I encourage people go alone because I think it's so cool. It's all also better because you want to check fin on whoever you brought with you just sort of like I don't want to go alone. So you pick a bunch of people that you're like or what if they don't enjoy it and you're checking in on them and if you laugh too hard at something that's that you're like oh no. They think I relate to that too much and you're worried they'll time when you go alone your free thinking too much on behalf of people who are missing out on shows because they feel insecure about going alone go alone. It's so cool. I've never thought that once you think so much Joe Rogan thinking yeah but I mean go by yourself. No one wants to go with you but if not go with your friends but what if you don't have friends some friends no no no no. No don't don't have friends job. I know they should make us friends well. I think they should go to show alone and make friends with other people going alone boy. How do you find them. Maybe try to make friends with someone and they're with author wife. Allocate fuck get away. She's in the bathroom trying to make friends with people that are with somebody else and like hey man. This isn't a place to make friends. The presidency a show I connected to people that are going to my show has like the record of the most people that by single tickets who Marc Maron that makes sense totally makes sense. I want to eclipse kind of alienated. He's that guy in the shed connects connects pants. He's not in the shed anymore. Spot okay moving on up the Jefferson saying but that's that's the thing like I've had people say come to show robot myself my loser Mike now. I've got things by myself. Yes go to things by yourself wronged by yourself but also find some friends. It's so hard. Some people don't have Fran it just needs to do something where they'll find commodity and what they do is one of the things about Jujitsu. It's really wonderful people that do they find friends that also oh did you. Do you become friends with these people that are into this difficult thing. Listen sold on Jujitsu. I haven't met a damn person who's tried. It doesn't become obsessed with it. Awesome end good self defense for for the ladies ladies the best the best of all of them yes because look how awesome on your hands are. You're not going to punch somebody in the face and hurt them now. It's just too too many men or too big too hard but you can defend yourself would you you'll you'll understand grappling and if you get a hold of someone's neck doc you could choke them. Unconscious really percent yeah yeah if I let you wrap your arms around my neck and I show you how to do it and I don't resist you. Put Me to sleep really wow yeah yeah legitimately specially with your legs like women who know how to use their legs correctly and they learn how to cope with their legs guys to get on top you you could strangle him yeah. I don't have have any defense technique in my back like I have nothing if a guy attacked me. Moi's just like well. I'm just like I need to learn something. Just be annoying to start. Start them done it. It's working. That's what I'll do. I'll just start talking and trying to psychoanalyze is how you'd be like. You're right because your mother didn't love you enough and you hate women and I remind you of your mom in some way that set you off and you're trying to Mike. Yes killing now if you if you go to class maybe that's where you'd meet a good guy. I think so I I think I think that's what I like about your sober October the challenge to do a new class where you're like. It's it's made me not athletic advent adventure but you're like. What are you going to learn well? Yesterday we took. We did on lessons yeah. We went Tommy. Nine your caption about that. It was really good. Where are you said like. It's something where I'm like. I got I got a lot to learn like it was my first time even shooting a pistol in more than ten years. I May and shot a pistol since the last time I shot one on a on a range which I think was about ten years ago. I shot rifles the last time I even shot a rifle. Though is a few two years ago like two or three years ago so it was an I I mean obviously I'm a real beginner when it comes to that and with pistols I'm a super beginner. I didn't know anything so all these folks at this Taryn tactical place for showing Tommy how to do it right and it's like it's. It's a real wakeup call. You really don't know what the fuck you're dealing and it's something where there's is all good giant area that you can improve in like yeah knowing nothing like just. I know how to squeeze the trigger. I know the site is here. You'll be lining up. pull the trigger. Don't jerk the trigger. Just pull it but learning correctly from these people and how to hold the gun correctly to stabilize it and high. Are you supposed to stand and how you're supposed to lean in watching men and women do it correctly and show you and you're like. Oh okay okay okay like woo. This is good. This is something I don't. Oh anything about. It's so exciting when you get like one little nugget and it just all of a sudden changes everything and you're like I would have never figured that out on my own with all with millions of years of bright right like exciting so good it unlocks. It's an ocean of possibilities and you get your toes with first day. You're like Oh my God. There's so much to learn. I'm going to avoid doctor right now because they don't want to ruin my instrument and which I'm now starting to look at it as an instrument comment that I was never taught how to play. I'm just free styling on this tugging saxophone. You know like no one. We don't get lessons for our voice right right. Have you ever taken any. We know it's a good idea though I mean talk so much. Have you ever lost your do you lose your voice ever no okay well then. You're probably talking yeah but you probably scream cream in a really efficient way or yellen inefficient wings. You just have strong vocal cords. Yeah I mean I'm learning stuff that I'm like. WHOA I didn't even know now like there's three places where your voice can come from your throat your mouth and your nose and I'm talking all throat and that's why I'm getting polyps developed. I mean I'm getting stuff growth on it. I don't know what to talk and it's just my vocal torture slamming all day and they develop calluses after they slam and those are like the I'm going to have to have them. Surgically weekly removed. I'M GONNA lose my voice if I don't. They're like you're here right in the nick of time so I do voice exercises every day and I'm loving it. I I start out. That's opening up your throat so you're vibrate and it's making you realize the vibrations in your face 'cause a lot of your the sound so it's your nose and your mouth that you can focus on creating the sound that comes out of your sure that makes your the air then you go memo museum among and you're supposed to make your whole face vibrate field me me me me me me screaming fucking tainting this and you should so just in my house going never Monday number nine number Monday but it's Monday never money but still a little throaty yeah yeah learning. It's but it's like I never thought about this. It's changing everything. Do you know what Blaine instrument no no interest none me. Neither I mean no I did. I would get into it. That's the problem yeah and I don't have any time. You don't have any no what feel like. There's a practical application for learning how to shoot people. Yes yeah he's probably could. It's good to know your entertaining people enough. You don't need to add a guitar jus- US I don't I don't WanNa get obsessed. That's my you have interest because you time why get quick as you'll get upset. I'm crazy. See that's my crazy. I'm not I'm not a junkie like like you put heroin in front of me. I've no interest but if there's something that's interesting and it's hard to do the problem. Is I get obsessed with things things like really obsessed where they takes over my whole day was torn bow hunting and do still practice it all Tayo. I've got to ranges in the studio. I've got a game out there. Where have you seen the Game Techno Hunt Game Now. I'll show to studio. There's a these fucking archery game where there's a Kevlar screen and I have these different broad heads that are flat at the end like it's a weird right like is that a negative chicks love it. It's like class yeah. It's not negative sounds like a powerful AIDS. Lady Yeah broads not like like what's. An and other than like slit whole never heard sled here just a couple slits. I've heard whole before that's when opie and Anthony the girl who was on the morning yeah whole out literally because there was like holes in the show because like when they would talk the only reason why they were there was there were a woman. He has someone like we. We need a woman on the show sued get some chick and she would just say. I just feel like you guys are not letting me Talk Shaw Yeah on shows where the girl was a whole yeah. I have to board it on shows where the guy was a fucking. Oh yeah there's a lot of just you know. Holy shows socials. Officials are kind of dying. I know you're dying before because of this because there are more interesting people that know how to make people laugh. There's no reason to listen to them and and then every fucking fifteen minutes or some new goddamn commercial for fucking Tom's dodge Tom Toms Sal. Oh Yeah Yeah you'd get so good. You get so bored. Listen to the sold me. Dodd Gad's ads discount but those those morning shows you would go to those shows and some would be really cool. You know some of them would be awesome awesome but then there was other ones that you could tell. They really wanted to be a comic but they were scared but they knew that you needed them to sell tickets so there were kind of candy with you. Yes yes yes. I go in. I take those shows over to show him. How do I wanted so your listeners. What real comedy like actual actual jokes. Are Those anymore. Do you still do those. I still love doing them real life. I'm a morning person get up. I like to make the rounds. I'd like to go in take Tako. I've I've learned from Bert Kreischer. He was the first person he was the headliner when I was working with him as a feature act back in West Virginia the sorry Virginia beach funny boned around Dayton. Where else were we were all over? I was always working with him. Just randomly Richmond Virginia he would take me to radio which he did did not need to do but he was like you. WanNa come tomorrow and I'm like as a feature shore and he would and I would just see how he would walk in and take over show and make it his own and they fucking love Jim the and sell more tickets because it was and he was having fun doing it and so when I do morning tv or radio I always just go I I'm free itself feel comp- like they're always like Oh. She's out of control. You say anything on there and it's like don't button you. You know hey you just go in. I go on. TV shows with no makeup. I look like faces of Meth. Whenever I'm going to market I literally really looks so disgusting. I can't carry more because nobody's watching these morning. TV shows right and I go in with no makeup. The lighting is so bright everyone's wearing so all the women look. I it looks like a man because without makeup on as a woman on TV look like a man you just do because women wear too much makeup so by comparison. You look like a man. Dan and I just go in sometimes. I'd just like to have an open sore chest. I feel so free doing this as I think I'll do it. As long as they ask. Ask Me Really Yeah I like it when you sell out arenas and shit and maybe to some of my favorites like the good the good ones but but I get a kick out of it. I Love Radio Burr and Thom to know how to take over a morning show morning. TV shows remember. Do you ever see Tom would go on as this character. Dj Dad Mouth No yeah he would who would tell them that he's polly and by and and non binary and he would wear sunglasses and further codes and we wear gold chains chains because he was so bored and the shows were already sold out they were making him do these things because they had relationships with the local TV stations and this this before you really blew up from his netflix specials because this is one shot you all the time. Dj Dad mouth big announcement. I love this. Dj Dad mouth does the weather. He did it everywhere and the people that were working. These shows does did not know what the fuck he was talking about. He would say yeah. I'm coming out as poly poly. I'm coming out as non binary. That is so twelve you're right. It's it's completely out of boredom. Shows are so butchering. You've for coat with a hood. The giant road had to travel with us for this fucking interviews were hilarious because that is the lowest rung of show business in terms of competency see the least entertaining people all of show business and they panic whenever there's any fucking dead air. They don't know what to do like he's. He would say something like hollow hello. I don't even know the so bad. It's rough yeah. Do that shit anymore. I don't do anything you don't do. You know why don't you go on talk shows. You just don't care no because I'm not too much. Nobody wants to know what my opinions are fucking saying them constantly constantly constantly. I don't need any more attention. I want less than ten percent less attention. Okay new question new new new direction okay being famous going out places. What's it like for you. Is that what you wanted. Is it what you expected you clearly. There is some part of you that wanted to be famous at some point in your life. I think you want because you want to be successful. You want like in the beginning. People are paying attention to other people who want to be attention to me. Oh Look Jerry Seinfeld's in around. Nobody nobody even cares if I'm alive. I wish they cared that I was here. Yeah Yeah but then edit you like you're oh then you lose your anonymity and then it's weird and and then people react to you differently. One of my wife said to me I go black. Guy Seems like a nice guy and she goes listen. Everybody's nice to you. She goes you. Don't even realize it like people. I've people act like assholes to other people and then you come in here and they aggregate totally different person. She said that she's hilarious. My Life says some funny shit. She's funny than me like in terms of social situations. She's the funny one because I'm not like. I don't try to be funny but she does like she gets a kick out orange social situations. She'll have a couple of drinks. She's the one takes over but she's she's got good timing like one time. I was going to in this period of time where I was getting massages ages from dudes because girls just are not good at getting into the deep muscles and get these deep tissue massages from Dude but you know it was staying in the hotel. I got a massage and I came back upstairs onset fuck. I left my wedding ring back down there so I went back down to the locker room and get my wedding ring and she goes. Where was it in his ass. Ah but it's the way she said it like she was like she was actually curious and then she knows she got Zinger off. I'm dying laughing so she thinks it's awesome. Yeah yes. He sounds like if you didn't know better. You'd probably think she's the comedian yeah but that's one of the reasons why it works yeah because you need a funny but she doesn't want attention but she likes being funny like with us. She's like she just gets a kick out of. It's fun for so yeah. It's like she has wanna play tennis professionally but you might WanNa play with their friends and partner for comedian. I believe but she noticed is that people are nicer to you and you. I mean you have dealt l. You've seen the shift. Everyone's nice now suddenly and it's on the world's just got nicer. You've just got more famous. How do you do you what about when you're in public and you find people like videotaping you or like you can sense it when narrow when you know the people this is a funny thing that people the hold their camera no looking down yeah and you're talking to your friend. They're like filming. You say anything or do you just let it come on man. I'm just a human dude. He's a human that more people know that don't be weird won't take a picture. We'll take a picture together. Don't just filming and pretend you're not filming. It's just too strange inch like my friends. WHO's an airport and some dude was just holding a phone up on him and his friends were talking and he goes come on man he goes. Hey It's a price you pay. It was like Nah not. There's nothing written anywhere the price you pay. Is you see me at starbucks talking to my friend. You stick a phone in front of us in films while we're talking. This is weird but it's just it's also that it's so alien to some people to see a famous person one of the good things about L. A. is there used to famous people people. There's so many famous people out here you see them all the time and it's like you get you know they're gonNa be around so you like Oh. There's Nikki. It's normal. It's like a safari. The animals are in their natural habitats norm. It is cool to see a cheetah but there's others but if you're in fuck in Louisville and you're walking around and you you try to go to a bar. It might get weird. They like a Western. Yes and you Bend Louisville. JABAAR had to leave that far fewer those moments for most of the time people people just friendly. You just shake their hand and you know I have a like. The kind of fame I have is like people know me. It's a weird kind of fame. It's like because has the podcast they know me. They know you so well. It's not like Daniel Day Lewis where you have no idea what he's like. I'm going to go talk to him what he sounds like. I wonder what he talks excellent point. They know you. I mean I've had guys ask me out or or like propose that we should date because they're like. There's there's one guy recently who discovered in one day and he knew he was GonNa see me that night at the meet-and-greet at the show and I think he had seen my roast kind of went viral last week or two weeks ago so we saw that and he was like Oh my God she's in Irvine tonight any he bought a meet and greet ticket and he listened to me all day. It was like listen to you on Rogan for three hours. Then I listen to this pockets I mean he was listening to me all day so for him. We spent a whole day together where I was telling him all my deepest insecurities. I mean I get real on these. Things and people feel connected to you you and then he comes to the meet and greet and his energy is so strong and like we should be together. Type Enter Nike didn't say that but he's just like it. Just you could just go this. Guy's spend all all day with me and I don't know him at all and I knew that going in and he and I kind of just like shoot. 'em Like we took a picture. I was nice but I was like he came the next night again because you could tell he went home and was like I blew it my one shot and he bought meet-and-greet which I'm like you censor their show again. It's the same bucket show and he had a chance and he tried to touch me like low on my weight and I just took his hand unlike get up now. They feel like they know you but that's a weird thing which is a touchy low and your waist like right by your but they can't wait to but let me just touch talk. I'm I'm I'm grateful that anyone even thinks I have an ass worthy touch because I have such a flat. Ask that when it does get touched. I'm kind of flattered but but don't do it. I don't like it ultimately makes me feel not good at all league. I mean my friend. Andrew will be watching me because it's happened so many times. We're guys casually. They just put their hand on my ass when they're taking picture and it's and no one ever sees it. I'll have security guards like watching. It'll be like we watch for men touching me in weird places because it's always weird for me to to call out in front of their wife and I don't embarrass them and make it a thing so I just go like I'd rather someone else call it out and security will watch an I'll be I'll walk to him be like. Did you not see that guy and they're like no. It's so stealthily and subtle the way that a guy can put his just as this is what they do your back and then when they're done with the picture they'll just go like like their hand will like Oh. I'm just my hands just gravity and it'll grays your whole backside and what it does. It's just like God man. You don't respect me just was on stage. You paid to see me. You had to sit and be quiet. The whole time I demanded a sort of respect and that moment you've just taken that from me just makes me feel gross. They don't respect you. It's that they're trying to get away with it. They think like Ma. Maybe she won't even let my Hang Olympian just go down but they don't. They want me to notice so I'm like. I don't know maybe depends on the person yeah it's but it happens all in with women women. It happens a ton. women definitely like Juno grabs me older ladies that are drunk. Yes older ladies that have drunk. We'll just grab grab my ass. I've had not okay late. Forties ladies get a couple of POPs ladies night out. They were hot twenties. They were like the type of girl that like I feel didn't feel in my back that like literally squeeze like a horse like checking checking the meat. Stop it ladies. It's not okay for you to do to men. I know it's not not the same. Let me tell you something. It's because you're threatening these women. It's hey get out of my ass and it's not like any man with their musculature at any sized could really overpower me a week. I'm a tall woman but I'm a week woman so any man touching me is like a it's a threat to throw it is a threat not the same with women and men but still get the fuck off men women. I'm sorry well it's just people are just and that's another thing about drinking. You know people get drunk and they make stupid fucking and choices that they would never make if they're sober even smart people smart. People with five drinks are stupid. Oh they're so stupid. Smart Person Five drinks and I'm like who the wrong fucking thing weird fucking secret desires that never get revealed also come popping up yet they start making out with guys is what's happened. Why do yes everyone's dumb at seven drinks everyone. I think no one's better two drinks and more like maybe men because you have a little bit more tolerance but it's around two drinks like I love a person up until tutoring. They'll get better and then after two drinks. I'm like I'm talking about this low. They're slow. They're loud. They're close to your face. Would you prefer four drinks or cocaine. See I haven't four drinks over coke everyday. Tell me tell me why because I guess I'm not around enough folkets. They talk too much talk too much and they want to get really close to you and they want to keep talking talk fast first of all people. It's always about them the thing about speed amphetamines. It's it's always a self serving in conversation. It's always about you so it's about what you're GONNA do. It's always about who's fucking you over and keeping you from doing this and you're going to do that and you're going. You Know Oh this 'cause you're smart and everybody else is stupid but you're not. That's that's coke talk. Did you ever do me. Neither never did it. I got lucky I knew who I had a good buddy of mine. His cousin sold it. I watched this whole life. Fall apart doing coke constantly lost Shitload of weight and I remember thinking. Oh my God so you got bit by Ma'am Pyre. This guy got infected and you're like no so scared of it. A few people in my neighborhood would do coke and they always went bad. It always went back so I just I recognize that. Real early was like that's a bad one. I did it one time with Doug Stanhope Hollow. I didn't mean to but but I was just I really didn't mean to visit the Kansas City Stanford and sons in Kansas City. You have to do coke there. I think it's part of the contract I all all week. I didn't talk to Doug. I was so scared of him. I was emceeing. I was in college still in at the last night Saturday night. After the late show he had like his all whole entourage back to his hotel room to hang out. I was invited I went just sitting quietly in the corner and he has a bunch of coke on the desk that he's doing and no one else. This is really doing it just kind of watching him do it and then he gets a call from the front desk. There's like hey your car's here. Get an early morning flight and he's like. I'm not taking this with me. Does anyone Does anyone want it and I was like I'll bring it back to my friends at college like that's a lot of coke in like talking about. It was like a pile of it. What does it look like the pile like scrabble Golf Ball Yeah Golf Ball like Cups Yeah. It's a lot and I was like I'll take it and he was like okay and he hands ends me a rolled up dollar bill and I was like oh he thought he meant now and I was like twenty an insecure and wanting to be cool so what's let's skews do it so I did it and then he went home and fucking clean my apartment yeah. I went home and cleaned and wrote a essay that I needed to write and I was like shits. Good wow but you know it's just like doing Ritalin and you get shit done but there's a price it's not good. You're it's a B. MINUS NISA paper whenever I like have something you know. I've I've taken Amaral creativity. It's GonNa Suffer Joey Dee as we used to be a big coke one of the things he said he goes. There's no soul in what you said. It was when you doing coke. There's no soul in it yeah yeah because all about you like you said just empty. Just weird weirdly disconnected. You know like you know the movie showgirls one of my favorite all time coke movie like if you could tell the people who were doing coke it's ridiculous movie like who the Fuck Green let this thing who said they were doing coke because that was the ninety s in the ninety s a lot of people people did coke coke movie. Yeah I think I mean it's just my opinion and maybe I'm wrong. What was the last snack Alec trip. You add any mushrooms couple months ago nauseam. Where'd you doing did them with Ari on the show. We did did them during podcast. We and you start tripping during the podcast having fun what is what does it sound like. It was great. Broadcast was great. We didn't take too much but yeah we took enough and like like no one can tell when you're on them like you can still function normally yeah. I mean it depends on how far you go. You are so funny. Yeah you can go down the rabbit hole. Okay you can go down the rabbit hole and be incoherent mushrooms. It's dose dependent. I mean what you're doing. Is You're getting getting. You know you take a little bit. You're like shaking hands with the angels but you're not going to heaven. You're not going to visit them. You like hi hi. How are You oh my God. You're so wonderful but you're not like riding on their wings going. Go into the other dimension but if you take enough that's where where you go. If you take enough you're not talking to anybody and have you done. Alyce yes and good. Yes great experience a bad experience on that. No no it took. It took it later in life. I don't think it's I think most of these psychedelics where you have bad experiences what you're having is your own psychological dilemma and then your battle with whatever the the drug or the PSYCHEDELIC is trying to do to you versus what your egos trying to control roll and keep it from happening. I mean I've seen a lot of people have bad trips on. Some of the worst trips I've ever seen people have was from edible. Pot is one of the strongest things that people don't recognize it's it's a very different drug than smoking and when you when you think of things that can take you down the rabbit hole you don't think about it will pop people think oh you're going to get. I maybe can get too high but you're just getting high but when you eat it. It's a completely different animal. Yeah literally like physiological needs a different emily yeah create something called eleven hydroxy metabolite. That's five five times more psychoactive than THC. It's not even cycle active in smoking it. It's a different drug. That's what that's different totally different and drug that makes complete sense different drug. It's processed by your liver. Something called the one pass it passes through your liver and the THC gets processed assist in two eleven hydroxy metabolite okay Google. It's trippy Shit. I've way stronger some microdosing versions dozens of mushrooms that I had two of them and they were it was great. It just made things a little bit brighter makes it nice. Have you ever MICR does yes. You know doesn't all-time hair white. Oh Really Ron White's microdosing motherfucker yeah. I'm on this new drug. It's called mushrooms and I just take a little bit every every day. Yeah I know a lot of people that do a lot doesn't dozens of people who might dose including fighters. I know a lot of fighters micros yeah. I'm Scott today was even on any I was. I was just like Oh. This room looks like cooler yeah. Oh yeah eight that little piece. You just feel a little little better and you'll like what is all. I took mushrooms. Yes I forgot yeah. Did you hear that a spiked birt's drink with molly watts it. They did a podcast together and are dumped molly and diverts drink. Is that why birth wife isn't talking narine wait. That's AH in his house births house what what is so crazy. I don't trust him for a second. I'm so scared of our Asia Kefir so great. He is fucking crazy. I've seen him just like acts. Ask about my life and be like interested in I'll lick open up to him and then he'll lick. Use it against me later on. I'm like like this guy. I don't tr- yeah he'll just store up things. Use it against us it a mile to be funny. I think he's evil. ooh English a fear is secretly evil. Yeah I think yeah I doing. I think he's a good I like him but I don't trust him because I because he spite despite burke he gave his friend Molly. That's not okay but wait. That's hilarious though still Hilarie. It's crazy. That's what he's trying to do. They were both on molly because he took it himself and the podcast going on at our starts dancing and he's like sort of dancing and moving birds like well. What do you want molly he goes. Are you birth like what and then all of a sudden and then he realizes hooked on. He realizes the ours puts them when you drink like he's home with his family. Okay I kind of want. Ari sorry to spiked my drink and I want to to do molly. Are you Ari no I'm. I'm giving you consent to do it to me in a sneaky podcast too. I think that'd be so fun. I was Joe. That's my thing. I need an excuse to be bad like. That's why Bonda just like oh now like I can't do this force to do this dirty thing. I don't really want to do this but you're making me dancing serves. I'm like you made me wear this swimsuit on TV. I cannot be what what's the shoulder thing. It's just like helpless sleds. I need the excuse to be mad to be what I really. WanNa be which is high bloody and mean like roasts. That's an excuse to be mean. Excuse to be evil. I had to do these junk. To what am I going to go to a compliment. Everyone I can't do that. They're zero so there's always there's always I had to get it. Well use gave the excuse me. He's going to capitalize on it. I really do want to boom Ali. I feel like with them now with him. I mean I guess I'm I'm already asking some recently. Who Face the face you made. I know I do I would do it with someone recommended him to be my shaman on a trip and I was like what I don't trust him to be. My showman and you can trust. He's GonNa Wasco so maybe mushrooms drug trust them for that that mountain okay yeah look you could trust our our. He was just mad at Burton. It's not logical the it's not tenable I don't I don't agree with these mad at burt that the whole reason why we do sober October was we were trying to get sober and Bert. was you know we're worried about his health. Span birt's ridiculously over way he's also on high blood pressure medication but yet he's still drinks every fucking night and really this is crazy man like you you gotTa stop doing this and so the original reason for sober. October was to try to sobered up. It started off four years ago. There was a weight loss challenge between Tom and Bert during the whole weight loss challenge burt kept drinking. This is fucked up. He is he's trying to win this big thing and at the end of it he he only fell short by a few pounds but he was drinking the whole the whole time so so then the next year we were like okay. We got to figure out a way to get pertz over. Let's do this. Let's let's even go over for the whole month of October. Burglar who who was hemming and haunted didn't WANNA do. I'll do it too. We'll all do it. We'll all be sober so that's what kicked off so rock tober number one. That was three years ago. We we just it's that we made a challenge. We're going to be over the whole month and we're going to have to do fifteen hot yoga classes which is fun it was good and burt did it and he had no problem seemed sober for the whole month and he actually did get healthier and he looked better but then the next year got too crazy the next year. We decided to have a fitness challenge. That was insane crazy. That was hard to watch. I was crazy watching you guys. Just give up your lives. Give up points so yeah seven hours a day I was doing. I mean talked about that. One day that you like your heart rate was at maximum. It was eighty percent heart rate. Max Ax was more than that because I got a you get one minute for one minute at eighty percent of heart rate. You get one point. Wayne and I had eleven hundred minutes for the dude. Yeah I mean that's torch. I'm so glad you guys pulled back this year. It was so crazy so I was obsessed. Zest is Bert. Getting sober is working. No no no Bergen pressure. He shouldn't be drinking at all. No not high blood L. Let pressure. Shit is no joke but that's how people get strokes. Yes you really shouldn't be drinking at all but he did. cut back on sugar and he said he had lost what he say. Lost Twenty twenty pounds something. Creche can do anything I can really do anything. He needs to stop drinking. Yes he does but he loves drinking and going on stage and taking a shirt off now he loves being the life of the party but I don't WanNa lose the life of the party because enabling this hardy would see the thing is that party party thing that he does like. It's sort of dependent upon alcoholic. That's part of the image that he's created and we talked about on the podcast. The other day that kinison had the same problem they would just lay these giant lines coke look how hits Ham Ham coke outlet to the point. Where like no one can do? Bert goes into a town and isn't isn't down to drink the whole he invites the audience to go out with now after the show and the drink together and he's doing doubles so she sees double not does and he's drinking like fucking twenty drinks a night. I can't believe how much he's able to accomplish with his drinking habits amazing. It's think of what he'd be able to do without it. I don't know if that's the case but half of what he's accomplished is accomplished because of standup and half of his stand up his partying yeah. It's like he's he's. He's a funny guy. He would always be a funny comic whether or not he can accept that without the alcohol whether or not he can embrace that without the alcohol aw he's not an alcoholic in the sense that he's addicted to alcohol because he did quit two years in a row for a whole month without a problem he really did do it right and he says there's no big deal he goes. I miss it. I'd like to have a drink but I'm okay so he's not like he didn't get the shakes. His fucking psychologist was was telling them not to do it. Yeah College probably not the thing for you to quit drinking and he was like my fucking shrink told me to stop not to stop yeah which is is crazy but I just you know I reasoned quitting drinking for me. It felt like so much of my identity to drink and I talked about it on stage. I mean it wasn't anywhere as wrapped up. His bird is in it but he's had enough fun. You've had your whole life of doing this. You've been the party animals since no no no no he's just starting to kill ability selling out the left and right doing great right now and specials elevated him all his instagram stuff every time we do the sober October things he sells way anymore. Ticket ain't now. It's be funny no matter one of comic everybody who's funny is funny no matter what they're so think aired you think they get on. Zoloft if I talked to someone about my issues if I conquer my if I talk about the anger towards my father what am I going to be funny on the other side of it yes. We're funny comic. It's a profession can make it's one of the rare professions we think you're dependent upon certain substances yeah but we do know people that got sober and then got boring. That's true to you. Didn't you pulled it off but there are people that got sober and then they started to suck really yeah but then there's also people who got sober and getting better like David. Tell Dave attell sobered up his fucking joke writing just kicked into another level because he got addicted to writing funneled at all also all the end our bandwidth more energy band. Yep Nikki Glaser. We've got to wrap this up. skywalker already been banged now. Three hours of talking crazy flies by tell everybody your special banging flicks. Luke's how do I get along with you on instagram and on the Nikki Glaser on instagram. I have a radio show on Sirius. 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Spain and Fitz Podcast Special 10/15

"Great news. There's a quick way you can save money, switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price, and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save welcome to Spain and fits the podcast. It's the podcast addition of Spain and Fitz, Jason Fitz line solo baseball can give us all sorts of entertainment on ESPN radio, but it will not get in the way of our hot takes. And that's the way things are gonna go, Sarah, and I will both be doing podcasts for you over the course of the baseball playoff season. So be sure to hang out with us, make sure that you're subscribing and listening on IT and so that you can get all the greatness. I can't get into a Monday and not have football to talk about. Look realistically, what we saw over the weekend was a reminder that the power structure in the AFC is already set. We already know who the best team is. It's the chiefs we already know. At this point, the second best team looks like the patriots. You can make those definitive statements out of game one. You can make that definitive statement out of watching Kansas City go in and beat the chiefs in dramatic dramatic game that game on Sunday night had everything we want that drama chaos had crazy big plays had the fantastic finish and an almost almost had a sack that would've changed the entire finish the entire outcome of. So you could argue that maybe the most important piece of it wasn't just wasn't just the game as a whole, but it was what was happening at the end. And then it was what was said about it afterwards. I want you to hear. I want you to hear what Bruins spree speaks linebacker had to say about the sack that almost was on Tom Brady at the end of the game. Check this out. Grasp the ball already gone. Did you have any fear because of the new rules about. The ball is gone. Underseas. So. Was finished play like that. Probably balance for glare position. Are you going to look at it now and saying, I got out is the risk. We gotta take whether we get the flag or not. Whatever happens. You just got to go in and push through and go ahead and make that play. So relents freeze the inside linebacker for the or the linebacker for the chiefs telling you what was going through his mind is it looked like he was going to sack Brady Brady's slips out of it Brady throws a touchdown that puts the patriots ahead near the end of the game, and he's right, it stinks, but here's what Bruin speaks. Doesn't realize when he speaks out about this, he's telling us every single reason why this rule as much as some of you hate it about taking the quarterback to the ground about punishing the quarterback about anything the defensive player might do. The possibly hurt a quarterback is great for the NFL relive speaks is reminding you why this rule is awesome. He didn't take Brady down Brady lives to see another play Brady throws a touchdown. We'll guess what not only was Brady. Okay, so we're the chiefs. They survived it. That lead lasted about seven seconds late in the game. Now that lead was quick because tyreek hill goes out, makes big. He gets the touchdown. Eventually in this game, the chiefs come out forty three forty winners. So this outcome, the outcome of the play did not really affect the outcome of the game. Also, it should be noted through the entire process of this that he's also telling you it can be coached, avoiding this play can be coached. See, that's been one of the big arguments about you can't tell a defensive player, Mike Golic senior always yelling about you can't tell the defensive player not to just land on the quarterback. What's he supposed to do? Well, Bruin speaks is telling you apparently that it was in his mind as he went to Brady that he needed to make sure he didn't commit a violation. What does that tell you not committing a violation can be coached. Think about it. If there's no way to get around it Bruin speaks, isn't isn't talking about it afterwards. If it's an inevitable play, they can't be stopped by a defender. Then there's no reason for him to pull off. Then there's no reason for it to even be in the back of his mind. So what have you been told you've been told the Berlin speaks had this in his mind, which means it's it can be coached around and you've also seen the outcome of the game to know that this one play shock and all this one play shock didn't change the entire outcome. Think about every time we see a missed kick at the end of the game, what is coaching what a one tell us. Coaching. One one tells us every single time you see a missed kick at the end of a game, you know what? It wasn't about that one play, but we want to assign every one of these quarterback roughing the quarterback penalties as the key of the game got offense is running. Fifty sixty seventy eighty plays. You can blame that one play. Now the chief survived that one play, the chief survived that one plate and their player tells you it can be coached around, but the most important piece of this Tom Brady was okay. See that that Tom Brady's health is more important than anything brilliant speaks we'll ever do on the football field. That's more important to the NFL. I'm sorry to say it. But it's the reminder you have to remember, you have to what is the NFL one. The NFL wants forty three to forty football games, and that's why they're changing the rules what y'all want Woody you guys want. I'm not talking about yelling guy on Twitter that the talks about the NFL and never watches it. Ratings are up for the NFL this year. Why the product is exciting end and star quarterbacks are playing. It trickles down to every single quarterback in the NFL your team is eventually going to benefit from one of these calls, Spain Vince on ESPN radio tonight. The podcast special for you, Jason Fitz fine. Solo, dig about him. Patriots fans don't hate the rule today. Do they? They lost the game and they still like the rule, jeez fans. If that was Patrick Mahomes. Would you be happy. If you're saints fan, if you're a note New Orleans Saints fan right now, you know that your team is having a magical season. That depends on one man Germany's. Anything they can do to protect juries is significant. When when you start thinking about what quarterback means, and I know we're coming off a year or a Nick foles wins the Super Bowl. So suddenly that means every backup quarterback is capable of winning a Super Bowl, stop just stop. Ultimately the NFL cares much more about Tom Brady's health. Then they care about anything in an outcome and any one particular game because Tom Brady will drive ratings because the patriots without Tom Brady are going to get flexed out of every single Sunday and Monday night game humanly possible. Look at what they've done with the forty Niners. The forty Niners were media darlings and now the NFL is going to do everything they can to bury those forty Niner game somewhere. Now should be noted tonight. Forty Niners play the Packers. How much different would that game tonight? Monday night football, how much different would you be looking at this game tonight? If the forty Niners had Jimmy g. right. I mean, you could make the argument that the rest of the Packers team isn't really worth watching, but they got one guy that is, and he's going to be in the game because they're protecting Aaron Rodgers. So. The argument against roughing, the passer in the way that it's being administered is that it's soft. It's soft. It's a bad look for the NFL. Who cares? You know, what's bad look for the NFL backup quarterback, play back up, quarterback play. That's a bad look. Then they turn around and say, well, defensive player can't stop. What's he supposed to do? Well, Bruin speaks just told you that in a key moment on a key play, he apparently thought the ball was gone and he did stop. So now that's a lie. The concept that a defensively can't change what he's doing in order to save the quarterback because of momentum because of gravity because of instincts. Well, Berlin speaks to told you that's not the truth because he led a quarterback go. So now we know it can be coached. You can't teach an old dog new tricks who knew. And then you think about the last piece of it? Well, it could be the game that changes the play that changes the outcome of a game. It didn't. Last night. Breemen speaks is actually speaking out on the all of the reasons why this rule is great. Could you imagine Monday night football tonight? If we were stuck with forty Niners Packers bolt without their quarterback. I mean, you guys are already some of you are going to be him in and haunt about, well, forty Niners don't go down Jimmy and it's a lost season for the forty Niners. It's a lost opportunity. The forty Niners were supposed to be pretty good. We've all excited to see it. I mean, when am I watching panther's game that doesn't have car Cam Newton on it? No. Look at what happened yesterday in a game that we'll get into fits flops a little later because I'm not bragging or anything. Yeah, I'm bragging. I had a winning week. One of the games. I told you about San Diego and Cleveland. Do we care about that game if there's no, Philip rivers and Baker Mayfield? No. To be care about. Let's think about the ad campaign for patriots chiefs. How much of it was really Andy Reid? The cool eight members is Bill Belichick in the hoodie. No, it was about Mahomes v Brady as it should be because what we were watching yesterday was Mahomes v Brady in the version of the NFL for the next several years will be the version you need to get used to or quarterbacks can't be touched where points come whenever points possibly can. We're big plays define it. We are no longer in a world where big hits to find the NFL and without big hits for you better have explosive offense because explosive offense still gives you highlight still gives you as sportscenter top ten plays. That is what the the NFL wants. It's what the NFL needs and guess what last night. That's what the NFL got when quarterbacks are on the field. We all win and is much as much as it's difficult for me right now to watch my beloved raiders lose every Sunday. It'd be a lot more difficult if I knew that they didn't even have their starting quarterback. That is the piece. The breaks every fan base is biggest, biggest strength, hope not. For today, but for the future. Straight ahead. How do you silence one of the most vocal players in the NFL in happened yesterday we'll tell you how next Spain of fits the podcast addition on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, Spain and Fitz. I can't believe it let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it got there. Long employee get there. I'll learn until we get there. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do? What's this button? Do what's best button do, what's this. I believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Spain and Fitz. It's bathing fits the podcast addition tonight on, usually we're on ESPN radio, tonight's, which is the podcast special for you. We will do this throughout the course of the baseball playoffs. And you know, one of the things you have to be careful for every single fan base is what happens when you win. Because when you win and you win it a high level, particularly something new happens, it's expectations, right? When expectations start to happen, success breeds expectations. You want the spotlight, you get the spotlight. Suddenly there's an expectation you will stay in the spotlight and that this year is affecting not more than the Jacksonville Jaguars. I was big on the hype train for the Jags l. admitted most of us were most of us thought when you look at last year and you look at the returning starters, and you look at the quality of that defense, particularly, you think, okay, you know what? Blake Bortles they can overcome. Blake, they overcame Blake last year they can overcome. Blake again. This year, it's gotta be careful what you wish for Jags fans. You wanted the attention. You wanted the spotlight. You want people to start talking about your team and now they are. But the question is they're talking about what's wrong because when you expect great results and you don't get them, the immediate question that has to be answered is why. If the bills are disappointing, nobody's asking why we know why they're the bills. Most years of the Jags are disappointing. Nobody pays attention. Who cares. The Jags everybody cares now because this team looks so good and because so many pieces came back together on defense, there's an expectation that they were going to challenge in the AFC and then they go up and they give up forty points to a Cowboys offense. That will Cain hear me now I will die on this soapbox. Your offense is not good, and they scored forty points on the Jags. Forty. That's inexcusable. It's inexcusable for a team that frankly is looking at a soft division in the AFC south, the titans a team. I gave a lot of love to have fought the wheels of fallen off of that thing quickly. The Texans have turned around and quietly won three straight games not even talking about it, but you're certainly not looking at the Texans thinking that they're suddenly in the league's elite level. You're not looking at the Texans and putting them in the same conversation as the chiefs and the patriots that we just talked about. No, this is the division for the Jags to just take and dominate and they're not doing it and they're not doing it in the most surprising way. It's not just Blake portal's right now. That's a disappointment it is. I can't believe I'm saying this the defense as well. So when you need answers in Jacksonville about why the defense is going poorly, what do you do? You need answers. You go to the biggest mountain in the NFL right now, a guy that was quick to want to talk to everybody this off season about greatness Jalen Ramsey but after the game. He was a man. A few words. Go ahead. Talking visit Stevens is there as considering the talent. Can you play together a lot of the second year, how do you explain something getting blown assignments that you had really into skiing. Coach said that he felt like it was. It wasn't an effort issue. It was a miscommunication issue. You agree with that. Jalen. What challenge should Kobe sleep post today? Placements and can't take it. Can't take it. You don't get to do this Jalen Ramsey you do not get to do. Yes, we don't get crickets. Crickets are not allowed. Here. We all have pillars right things that we stand for, especially sports fans, things we expect. And one of the pillars that I expect at every single level is personal responsibility. You take personal responsibility when your team isn't playing. Well, it doesn't matter if it's on you or if it's on somebody else. You take personal responsibility. When a team isn't hitting its expectations, it's what I expect from athletes. It's what I expect from coaches, and it's what I expect from Jalen Ramsey because some you've been running that mouth all offseason. Jalen Ramsey has been running his mouth all year about the greatness and rightfully so because he is frankly, one of the best players in the NFL. He is one of the most talented guys in the league, his rough MS, MS mouth runs faster than you. Same bolt. When things are good, but I'm going to hold you to the same standard. My friend that I would hold anybody in text threat. Y'all know what it's like when you're your favorite teams playing another team. You got a bunch of buddies that are all fans of multiple teams. Every time the raiders play the titans. Suddenly I have like fifteen group text threads, right? Everybody's blowing me up all the titans fans just blow me up the whole time talking all sorts of junk. They're talking all the trash they possibly can. And I take that before the game, but you bet your, but if the raiders win that game, I'm gonna go back into that text thread. I'm going to have mine and I'm going to expect them to take it. I'm holding Jalen Ramsey so that same standard, if you've been quiet all the time, if you are a quiet consistent leader, if you were Andrew luck. Heck if you're ally manning manning might be one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL this year he might be having one of the worst seasons, but he never cowers away from the microphone because he sits at the Mike Lynch. Things are good and he sits at the Mike when things are bad. Peyton did the same thing. I'll go back to Derrick cars and example of somebody that has not particularly gone well, this year he's still sits up with that. Mike. Every time takes takes Lincoln. That's what you do. Marcus mariota. Did it. You look over the weekend and you look at the guys that are are pillars for the NFL their brands for the NFL and part of what makes them a brand is consistency. If you're going to consistently be the team guy, you have to do it in good and bad. If you're going to consistently be the mouth, you have to be the mouth in good and bad. That's what Jalen Ramsey has failed at here. Not only has he failed at playing the highest possible level because it seemed gave up forty points. You know when when you got benched in front of the entire country in the most embarrassing way possible, what did he do? Stupid took his lumps. In fact, I'll even go to the college level after the national championship game when Jalen hurts is benched at halftime. Intuit's hunk of a low. It comes in for Alabama, wins the national championship. One of the reasons Jalen hurts was so beloved to the off season is because he stood up and he said, all the right things at the hardest time to say all the right things. And I have no problem with not saying the right things that's not Jalen Ramsey style. My problem is changing your tone. If you're going to be big, be big. If you're going to be loud, be loud, not just for one minute, not just when things are good all the time. Now I'm a little guy sometimes when you're a little guy, you need big guys to back you up. None bigger ESPN radio than Mike Golic. He also took Ramsey to task this morning on Golic and wingo check this out. Jalen Ramsey if you're gonna talk and listen, I don't mind talk right for our show you talking awful lot. You know what? When you bought whipped me talk a little more. You stand there and you give these one word answers or no answer or two word answers. You know what you need. Talk talk when you're think you're gonna play great, and you are great. Make no mistake about it. You are a great corner, but you better stand there and give some better answers on. Oh, maybe I'm not sure. It's not gonna fly my man. You're gonna stand in front of the microphone. Stand in front of the damn microphone. Consistency like love or hate Conor McGregor. Think about what he does. He runs his mouth before fights, and he also talks after he doesn't stop right Jalen Ramsey wants to be this character. He wants to be bigger than football. You think about where the interviews you're taking place. He's going on g. q. and he's trashing quarterbacks on g. q.. He's trashing quarterbacks. And in that moment, the only piece of his interview I said at the time that I thought was dishonest was he was light on Blake portal's. So now in this moment when he needs to be tough on himself in needs to be tough on that defense, he needs to be tough on Jacksonville. He needs to be tough on what they're trying to do. He clams up. That's a soft look. That's a soft look. And it's a stunning look because it soft from a player that has never backed down. It is a back down moment and it changes the way a lot of people are going to look at Jalen Ramsey the trash talker. Because Jalen Ramsey the brand is about being brash. And if. You can't be brash when things are good and bad. I'm not going to respect it. Spain fits the podcast special tonight for you. We're not quite done yet. I got his face the music myself. Like I tell you when it's good. I tell you when it's bad, I gave you five picks with fits flops. We'll see how I did. We'll do that next Spain and Fitz Spain and Fitz its benefits on ESPN radio tonight. The podcast special for you while baseball goes on and I'm going to fess up, you know, I'm going to fess up as I do every single week. But this week, when I look back at my weekend, I'm pretty happy because every week I picked the losers, not the winners on five different games for one of our favorite segments fits flops. Winning isn't an option. It's time for fits flops of the week where losing isn't only expected. It's in courage. You are one foot fetish loser. Will this week my friends, not this guy, three and two for the week. That's right. A winning record yet. Again, I'm on a roll and frankly, I blamed Sarah for why it wasn't even better. We'll start. I'll get. I'll get to why start with chargers and Browns chargers were one point favorite. I told you the Brown Brown's would lose the bet, and I won this and I do have to say this. This is not a statement to the Browns. Thank you. I like the little ding. Vince says, not a statement to the Browns. It's also a statement to the chargers. We are not paying attention to the chargers because the chiefs are flat out so good. Philip rivers continues to have a very impressive season and I think we've just lost our minds with Cleveland, hyper this point. Let's remember the Browns are still probably six and ten football team, and that's okay. Six and ten can be a huge part of the growth, but the Browns are just about wins and losses right now the browser about looking better. We can week out with Baker Mayfield. I still don't trust you Jackson. I still don't trust the coaching staff, but I think every week that you see progress from Baker Mayfield win or lose is. A good week for the Brown so we can be a good week for the Browns, but also the admittance that, frankly, the chargers are just in a different category than Cleveland and everybody missed on that one. Everybody should have missed the London game. The Seahawks were favored by two against my beloved raiders. I told you the raiders would lose the lose the bet, and guess what I want. Another day and look, things are things are going off the rails in Oakland. I expected this at some point this year. I didn't expect it. So soon. I thought the Seahawks would whip up on them and they did. I mean this, there's no easy way to put this. You can't get after the quarterback, which every week just reminds everybody that Khalil Mack is gone. The rumor mill is circulating saying at this point that Amari Cooper and Karl Joseph for both on the trade debt and trade block. I can't imagine what anybody would trade for Karl Joseph because he really hasn't played, but I'm not surprised to see Amari Cooper go. He hasn't been consistent part of the offense not just for for Jon Gruden, but also for Jack del Rio before. Then there's some sort of a disconnect for Martin Cooper. It's not working and I'm starting to believe Andrew Hawkins who you hear on Sundays on ESPN. Radio hawk is a big believer that Gruden is going to blow the entire thing up to to to grow the narrative that the franchise was in disarray. And the hawk is also a big believer that includes Derek cars. So right now, raiders fans every single week isn't just about Windsor losses. I just mentioned what it's about for Baker Mayfield the raiders. I think every single week is about looking at it and asking yourself. The question will Derek Carr be your quarterback next year because I'm not sure everybody knows the answer to that. The next game up was Jags at Cowboys. Maybe that's why I'm so mad at Jalen Ramsey the Jags were two point favorite. I thought they would win. I lost this one. Statement win for the Cowboys. And look, we have to admit that the NFC east is wide open right now. That's such a huge piece of what we will continue to look at weaken weak out is the NFC. East does not look particularly good to Cowboys. Finally have an offense of explosion, although let it be seen when you look at the stat line that while Dak was officiant Dak Prescott had an a fishing game, I would not call Prescott a great quarterback at this point still. I think he will be alive -bility for the Cowboys as the season continues to go forward. But this is one of those moments where the Jags are going to quickly have to figure out or turn things around. They now have a losing streak. Speaking of turning things around the ravens played in Nashville where two point favorite I told you the titans would lose the bet, and I won. And the titans have to figure something out. Big again, this comes down to quarterbacks, right? Mario, there's gonna be a difficult decision for the titans right now and the titans put up nothing. They put up a goose egg and the wheels have fallen off on that in a game where they allowed eleven sacks and a game where you allow eleven sacks. There's a lot of blame to go around. Health is an issue for this offense of line. Obviously, it's large issue for this offense of line for the titans. I wanna blame health for part of it, but you have to also when you when you give up eleven sacks. We have to blame coaching right putting you guys in the right situation helping guys when they need help. And you also have to blame your quarterback. At some point, he gotta get out of place. You got to figure a way out and that's what you have to ask of a quarterback that's going to be asking for thirty million dollars a year come next year. That's the the range that some things that Marcus mariota will find himself in the twenty five to thirty million dollar range. Twenty five to thirty million dollar quarterback should not get his butt. Whoop like that by Joe flacco. The titans are in an interesting moment where they're going to have to find their own identity and quickly turn it. Around and the last game of the week. And the reason I blamed Sarah for me only being three and to the bears are dolphins. The bears were two point favorite. This is the game. I was the most confident about told you the dolphins would lose the bet I thought the bears will kill them and I lost inexcusable meltdown. Brock Tober Brock Osweiler he brought on I, I could go on all day with these Bracha. Brock comes in, gets a big win, and it's really a stunning moment for bears, Pash rush that was rested and should have been able to feast on the dolphins, didn't get it done. The dolphins, the dolphins, come back in the bears collapsed. And this is one of those games that you're just gonna have to feel like somehow the bears put it behind him, but coming off the mini by and melting down that way against Miami inexcusable. I can only imagine that Sarah was livid, but not as limit as I was because four and one feels so much better than three and two. I am now though, sixteen wins thirteen losses to push his separating myself away from five hundred getting further and further ahead. Ed. So I feel pretty good about it fits flops. If you're new to it, we give them out every single Friday, five games. You can hear it on the show every week. We're back tomorrow actually at a different time. Check this out guys, three to four pm eastern Seren. I will be on ESPN radio to lead you into major league baseball playoffs. So three to four pm eastern, we will be on radio tomorrow to lead you in to the playoffs. Red Sox Astros game three followed by game four for the brewers dodgers. So be sure to check out tomorrow and throughout the course of the week. Keep your head here for podcast. When we are completely preempted. Thanks for listening to Spain and fits the podcast addition roosting to the show six to nine PM eastern on ESPN radio and subscribe to the podcast on the ESPN app, Spain and Fitz.

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TNF Recap & Week 7 Locks!

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1:03:48 hr | 2 years ago

TNF Recap & Week 7 Locks!

"This. Davis. Leaps touchdown. Here's a little gonna throw. Catch the touch, the Sutton Lipscomb coming passes. Paris. Chris harris. Lane to the end zone touchdown canine with all kinds of timers at all alone is Sanders. He will walk into the end zone where the flip at the end of it, they're rarely do see game that from the very first kickoff, it's ova right off the bat, the Denver Broncos dominant forty, five, ten win over the Arizona Cardinals at the farm, send the entire cardinals team to the farm. Kiss him goodbye because it's all over for an organization that is heading toward a complete rebuild if they don't realize yet. And I think they might Dan hands us here along with the sizzler Mark sesser about to get to all the week, seven games to come on Sunday and Monday. But what start and we won't linger on this game because Mark, this was as one sided as a game gets this season. When you look at the best players in the league and they promise you days ahead of time, what is. Going to happen in a game. It puts a lot of pressure on them. Von Miller said, we're gonna come out on the road and kick this cardinals. Teams asks and von Miller generated two fumbles could have been three and played in one of the best games I've ever seen him play in his entire career, and you're absolutely right from the very beginning with the first pick six came less than a minute into this game by Todd Davis, twenty yards. It was so clear that the Broncos run a different level than a cardinals offense that is so lost at sea that they're unwatchable and you cannot feel anything but bad for Josh Rosen, who I think has ton of potential, but is stuck inside a completely lost scheme. It's, we have no idea. Mike McCoy's can have job tomorrow at this time. We did wonder that about Vance Joseph coming in and the one thing I took away is that this Denver roster played for him very hard. Yeah, this is a get well game for the Broncos. Absolutely. John Elway called that defense soft heading into this game. They finish the game of five turnovers and to pick sixes. And I'm sure all always cronies and the press gonna call it Elway magic and say that it was him that motivated the team, whatever good win against overmatched cardinals team. When you watch us gave me forget how bad Denver's looked. They looked like a Super Bowl team here, and now they get a ten day rest before they head to Kansas City and Arrowhead. And I'd like to see which version of the Broncos show up in that game. But this is the Denver defense. We'd waited all season for markets showed up. Do you think is a a sign of this team ready to make a move or more of the cardinals? Are that bad? I mean, I feel like you and I and nine other people in our building, potentially put together a defense that might be able to stop the cardinals offense potentially. But the Denver did everything right tonight, and it was also you look, I like Philip. Lindsey who had had a couple of quiet weeks. Absolutely. Stunning performance by him. I thought the Broncos it was if they're a bad team, they could have gotten up early and found a way to let areas on back in. They absolutely did not do that. There was no moment in this game where you thought anything about the result was going to be secure for Denver, and they're three and four. You do have the chiefs up next. And so the Vance Joseph questions may linger. After that game, we'll find out. But this was the Broncos team that I think Chris Wes. Sling fell in love with for two weeks before they turned into such a nightmare for four. And you mentioned von Miller with the quote that we're gonna kick their ass and did Steve Wilks also throughout a quote that I'm sure he wishes. He didn't earlier this week. He said his job and everybody's job associated. The cardinals is going to be in trouble if we don't show up on Thursday night and they did not show up on Thursday night. So then what, what kind of message does that send to your team? I hated that Wilk said that in a blew up in his face, he just has you don't root for the Steve Wilks has that one and done look to them the coaches that don't make it past the first year in, it might not all his fault because you get the idea that ownership in Arizona, especially after Steve, Steve calms tremendously embarrassing DUI incident. And then this bomb of season which heads looks has thirteen three and thirteen written all over it, that they might just blow it up and do the move that you see a lot that's popular in football, right? Now is get rid of the defensive coach. You got a young said quarterback, go find the hotshot offense coordinator and start over that feels like that's where we're heading. Yeah, because Wilkes everyone talks about it Troy Aikman they love the guy that you one of the better guys in the game. But that said, I mean, the cardinals are the most disorganized team in football right now, and he's a defensive coach, and the defense is a disaster right now as well. So what are you pointing to? I think you're right. You have Josh Rosen, this can't continue, you can't. You have to show the team if if if this bad will make changes as well. And to me, I mean, they looked like completely two different football teams tonight. And my last thought Mr. Cecil is really tough, seeing Lara FitzGerald, getting hospital balls thrown his way in the fourth quarter of a forty, two, ten game, David Johnson averaging three yards a carry. Patrick Peterson, getting toasted clearly. Maybe not the same motivation level stuck on one of the worst teams in the league trade all these guys and I include Larry fits in that mix. This team complete rebuild is necessary, and you have some really tradable pieces. Nobody ever gets traded the deadlines at the end of this month. What did it make sense of some of these guys. Are playing elsewhere, especially if they're open to it in someone like Larry FitzGerald who just, you know, you could see in his eyes tonight. If he has a chance to go somewhere get into the playoffs and have one more shot at Super Bowl, why would he not want that? Potentially? I get the legacy in Arizona, but right now the cardinals are not just bad. They're even worse. They're boring. They're boring into tough way to watch FitzGerald, go out and it wouldn't change his legacy. He'll always be car. Maybe if he could chase the title on the way out the door, that'd be great. Anyway, we'll always be NFL dot com in place. Always. If we're lucky, this is the ceiling Mark. This is this. Is it forty? Five, ten Broncos role now to the rest of week, seven preview time deal round. The NFL podcast doesn't pay me for this. Welcome back to another addition of the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hans us and I am joined room filled with heroes, Mark, Cecil, Chris, Wesseling, and Greg Rosenthal. What does that boys Hayden, Matt money Smith has income five different streams of income that we know of and probably five others that we don't know of does he really need us to chip in what would be probably twenty five dollars a week for theory that he has ten streams of income. I for one think is worth his work is worth more than twenty five dollars a week. That's all we could afford the. There's no one's paying us to do a little then MO or of us. We chip in like five bucks a month or a month sound like we're on budgets. We don't get the big boy money. And then I feel like if anything will be like a kind of a acknowledgement more than real income, it's the thought that counts. All right, good plan, a beer the month thing. He hasn't complained one beer. Has not complained formerly about this so that coming through in the the open problematic little worrisome. But until it's actually something that's behind the scenes, I'm not gonna worry about it yet. Good strategy. You just heard at the top of the show. Sessile and I talking a little Broncos cardinals, but that's not all we're gonna talk about on today's show. We have a lot to get to can't believe Elway fired Vance. Joseph right after the game on the field. He got interviewed after the game and he said, gone, no missed opportunity. If I add, I do. We always assume that we're going to make it to whatever we're supposed to do. What if something were to happen to one of us for both of us? Well, today is Sherry. Presumptive would be the least of our problems is fixing guest Sean Sullivan sully. Its last day here at NFL media, which are very upset about his going away party is tonight. So here's another little pill back the curtain. So we're recording this preview podcast. Then there's about a six hour window before market. I convened to record the top of the show that is going to have a couple of pops, okay. Daddy's gonna be at the local tavern, celebrating Sean Sullivan to. You're the daddy, right? Always son. This daddy will be here working the game, so I will if you if you feel in a weird place. Yeah, I will do what I can to carry the segment people of already listen, you're not gonna come in between Mark. What do we watch it at the bar? No, I'll be writing totally listless game review for NFL dot com than going after. I mean, if it's going to be totally listless, why not just go to the? I've already told them that it's going to be one of the worst. What we learned they've ever read. Okay, so that I'm sure this is gonna be a good sag that you already heard for what we're about to do. We're gonna spend through the rest of the NFL in week, seven hour early here week, seven. We are flying four teams on by this week, the Packers, the raiders, the Steelers and the Seahawks, but so much to get to and why don't we do it? Let's let's get to it. You know anybody by the lotto ticket by the way, nine hundred million dollars. I I've heard of mega million act pot heard of this. They've always got some certain lottery thing going. Oh, is that why I had to wait in line for an hour at like seven. Eleven the other? Yes. Wow, absolutely. Get your seven, eleven fruit punch that you were drinking drinking that again. What are the worst investments anyone's ever made for Wednesday's show a looked to his left and he has a seven, eleven fruit punch and even the color disability off, you don't. You don't do that. What did it advertise its primary selling point made with real sugar. I like like I check the. Greediest for west and like the fourth ingredient down was actually cancer. Like the end of Canzoni to go down that road again. No west already had cancer, so you can't Chikao tra- sponge, chickenpox. Okay. I have as much knowledge as of cancers. Greg, does of the legal system after Judge Ito. Think from yesterday. Some people weren't upset with Judge Ito based on the saying, he steered it in a liberation. Fair, use fair to OJ. Fair man. That's I don't even know if you know. That's true and he was he was he lost control of the court. Really. It was that was that was distinctive takeaway about about that. Judge that judge work, they needed somebody to keep it from becoming a circus and Lance than get it done. Greg, you know Smith is, you know, should be ashamed. All right. Let's get to the games. Let's start in London. Got a little one. You got a little London got a little London music for us a little. Yeah, definitely their equivalent of the star spangled banner. That'd be controversy if everyone got down to one need during. Ooh. National anthem little, it'd be a little confusing, very confusing. I mean, it's sort of assume that we don't buy into their anthem based on the history of our country, but well, all right there we go, Tennessee, tight tunes coming off a distressing shutout loss to the ravens. All the heroes were behind the titans scou- little quiet recently. The titans fish selves. I haven't heard much from you guys in the mentions. Three three. Now you gotta go to London the face the chargers, playing their balls off right now, doing a nice job, the bolts, four and two. They went to Cleveland the place where it had been tough to play the season and they didn't make it look tough at all beat up on the Browns. So here we go, Mark, Cecil mariota and the titans. There's there's nowhere to go, but up after getting sacked, eleven or twelve times you like their chances this week in London in that category potentially. But I do not in these these poor London fans who have been forced to watch a lot of bad games in London where the average margin of victory has been twenty six point two points over the last five games there. And I don't know if this'll be the week that that gets corrected entirely. The titans defense, I think, has to sensually and they've been good play a perfect game to have a chance to win this one because their offense has been unwatchable. And if you go back and watch the chargers Browns game, you said it Dan, you're absolutely right. Cleveland who's. Been edgy throughout the season, got beat up by the chargers thoroughly and it's not just their offense, which is getting a career year from Philip rivers and has the best backfield duo in the league right now they're defense is improving by the week. Well, they're one of the most creative in effective teams blitzing in the league largely because of Derwin James, but growth. Gus Bradley mixes it up a lot more than, yeah, the the Seahawks used to. It's quite a different type of attack. And then you think about the titans who is worse right now that handling pressure than the titans. They had no clue what Baltimore was sending at them so that that's a matchup if you're Mario or even just blocking one on one they're struggling, but especially blitz is you have to think Bradley saw that tape and they're going to be sending the house at the titans to see if they can handle it. Why not? What's? What's the downside to send in the house? Who's going to burn you on this titans offense? Nobody re theory, Corey Davis. I don't know. Taylor Marcus mariota were just giving up forever. The can't run. The ball or run the ball and that leflore who I praised early in the year for coaching. Well, around some injuries, he's supposed to be from the Shanahan McVay school. Those guys have the best running games in the league and the floors got nothing like, where's this grounded person? I, I have not made a worse. Take on this show. I don't think this season than believing that that titans win over the eagles somehow the most momentous like life changing win of the season for any team because they've gone completely in the tank after that to the point where you're right, like Mike malarkey got a lot of grief for for about three years in Tennessee, and they're worse right now than they ever were with malarkey. The one thing they did in that eagles game was they got to Carson Wentz. They put pressure right up the middle in. Can you do that against the chargers? I mean, I don't know the chargers to me have so many different weapons, and they just they can kill you through the air on the deep pass. And they also the way they run the ball. Gordon looks phenomenal right now. They've had injuries that offense tackle. And usually when that happens to the chargers, like every. Thing falls apart, you know? But instead you go to Cleveland, you protected up. Well, you got Tiro Williams. You have Mike Williams has added a really physical element. They have five receivers on pace for five hundred and fifty yards. I think in this match titans have a good defense, but Malcolm Butler is having a terrible season. I think he's ranked one hundred. They picked on him one hundred ten qualifiers. He's getting picked on week after week making a lot of money for I guess, seated while he's discussing this topic about as one of my favorite all time NFL players. So I as poorly as Crabtree played against Dinh's award. He owned Balcon Butler list and that's happened week after week. And that's the good thing about the chargers is it doesn't have to be Keenan Allen. It could be Mike Williams. That could be Tiro Williams. It could be any of those guys accessible? Yes. The designated home team, then these London games. Which is the chargers in this game eight and fourteen and twenty two affairs make it nine and fourteen. Well, tell me why that's the case. Why have wise the designated home team struggled? Is there any logic to it? I would imagine that from a franchise angle, if one of your home games suddenly like thousands of miles away that there's an element of agitating I have. I have a theory that bad teams keep sending bad teams teams with bad stadium situations, the Rams the chargers tighten it was for the Jaguars have gotten good, but they've been there every year. So the bucks and probably see how to send a better team to even out exactly the better theory, the my agitation doctor. Yours didn't seem bad in the moment. Then Greg's was real good gentlemen. I aboard this. I don't like the titans train for really for years on this podcast, been the conductor. I'm really enjoying it. And the one thing I feel like I haven't done enough is lock up against some some lock enough. The chargers this. We liked that. Titans. Let's move on who the New England Patriots coming up back to back home games in primetime to dubs. They're looking really good at foreign to back to be in the pats, and they're scoring a ton of points. Here's a nice test against the Chicago Bears, and Wes, you'd think that this would be a good time for New England to go to Chicago. 'cause the bears kind of crash down to earth last week against Miami, but that that game smells like a trap game for the bears, and they got caught sleeping. I imagine the bears are going to show up with a lot more purpose and resolve, and I like their chances in this game do well. I think it depends of Khalil Mack plays or not. He's he's hobbled this week. He hasn't practiced in the. It doesn't sound like they're all that out. Ian Rappaport said on on the air today, he didn't think it was serious and that they do think he'll play. He did struggle last week. He played the whole game in and didn't do anything. Why think that the patriots have decided they gotta win with offense now and. That's what you saw last week. I wanna know Mitch. Trubisky can hang with Tom Brady shootout because I think the patriots are going to score points. Their offense is fixed. Now I'm not saying it's the best offense they've ever had there, but I think it's fixed. They're gonna score points in there's no doubt my mind that Trubisky can hang with with Brady and shoot out the way he's done the last two weeks, but you could also go in the tank. So I mean, he has that potential making throws. He hit Taylor Gabriel stride last week to re Cohen. His dried last week for big plays. If Jordan Howard doesn't fumble at the goal line, if Trey Burton doesn't get a pass interference penalty. The bears win that game. I don't think they lost because you're Bisky played poorly. I think like also, if you're New England, you can't. They cannot rush the passer, no team in the league has fewer sacks that gives you a shot. If you're Kogyo, I would love to see them try to dial up a Trey Burton Phillies special in this game against the patriots. Why would you not do that? The patriots, maybe having advantage plane. Andy Reid and Matt Nagy. And back toback weeks, they certainly got creative and I think Jack knows they're not creating any pressure on their own and they got way more aggressive last week with some blitzes and they did make Mahomes makes them poor throws by sending a lot Adam. So you would think they'd be they'd be prepared for this game, and I wanna see Josh Gordon, I think their offense as getting there. But then the final step is Gordon and Tom Brady being on the same page because the timing isn't quite there quite yet, but they're through it to him nine times last week if he becomes a huge factor than watch Brady's throwing one hundred yards per game since elements returned. I mean they, they have a stock of weapons in west because I know you are not on the Sony, Michelle train, maybe you still aren't, but straight three straight one hundred yard games. The first patriots running back to do that since Corey Dillon, are you more impressed with him? I am and there was always a little bit more nuance in my Sony. Michelle take that first game he played. He added. I'm not suggesting there was a lot of Twitter. I'm asking opinion because I care. I came back. He was absolutely awful since then he's been very decisive. He's gotten downhill. My specific criticism is he doesn't have the speed to beat people to the edge. And I wondered if that was from the knee surgery, he just didn't look the same easy did at Georgia, but he is looking better. He's eating eastern into their their legare blunt. I mean, certainly not the body type, but he doesn't play on passing downs. They'd really don't send them out on routes. He's just kind of a straight ahead hammer with some real explosive as you straight ahead, hammer with real explicit. I'm saying they haven't had an exit. Explosive. I disagree. I think when he gets when he gets the first five yards, he goes and and he has like that it's more done to fifty or decisive nod an explosion. He's running through big holes to as a patriots hater. I'm not thrilled about the Sony Michelle, James white tandem. They throw in element and Josh Gordon Adron Cal ski and everyone else. All that's fine. But like the backfield in particular seems really effective, not happy about it. Let's move on the Buffalo Bills and their high-flying starter Derek Anderson hit the road to face the colts who are in a free fall right now. They have lost four straight. It is not an Andrew luck problem. It's basically and everything else problem and a health problem. But lesson Greg stop making excuses for the colts winnable game. He got the bills, Derek Anderson a town. Let's get to and five come on. Yeah, you gotta win this game, but it's amazing in twenty eighteen that I feel like if you're a colts fan. You know, kind of bad luck. We got there Anderson. I mean is there I don't have any question that Derek Anderson with virtually no practice will be a better option than Josh Allen or Nathan Peterman is because he can you say he, here's why, because the bills have the second worst offense of all time through six weeks according to the football outsiders efficiency, and you can see it when you're watching it and they've got an okay running game last. So that's almost all passing. It's one of the worst passing games I would say of the century, and I think Derek Anderson will be able to throw a couple of passes to Kelvin. Benjamin do something that's fun. I'm just saying he's not going to be the worst Allen's mobility hides a lot of sins on that offensive line in. This is one of the worst rosters in the league on offense. I don't think you can put it on the quarterback and we'll find out how dare Anderson looks 'cause Nathan Peterman didn't look any better than Josh Allen joining about. I mean, if you if you're. You don't like turn the ball over four times in the game. You're probably higher than Peterman on the what is he? Thirty? Five thirty six years old winter moved. Well. He's probably a slot at this point is what's he been doing? Well, not playing you soon. The Derek Anderson's been like a workout warrior or is he sort of like I feel like Mona's lawn and drinking beers. The big sell from bills ink is well going to be okay because he worked with the offense coordinator in two thousand nine. A different league has got a great match up. So his numbers are most naturally going to be better just because he's playing the coal Suva who are who are so banged up, but the colts do get t, y Hilton back. You've got, you know, Eric Bron finally like self actualising. He's like billing, the potential. So that's, you know, they have a little Detroit by the way, had the quarterback for it. I think it gotten his head he he was prone to drops and then at their while it's unlike the fans up, there would give him a hard time. He was getting critiqued every week and getting killed on Twitter and probably one of the fresh start people that needed professional ballplayer you job is to phase that stuff still human Beal's. I wouldn't do. It'd be surprising one though. I mean they have. They have one of the only maybe shutdown type corners right now Davis white, Matt, Milano, splaying. I mean, they're one of the better. We wanna last week moving on the Houston Texans. I'm gonna call the hottest team in the league because three straight wins. They know the really the world on fire, but they are on a three game winning streak. And now they're facing another three and three team in the Jaguars who are trying to figure things out right now Mark because in their last two games, they've been outscored hand for twenty one forty thirty, obviously seventy seventy two, twenty one they've been outscored. Yes. So the defense is struggling. Blake Bortles is struggling. And here own was asked, you know, how do you get your team out of this funk? Fortunately I learned you only way to start playing bed as you got worker off. You got to work hard. You've got gotta go back there. You got a coach better. All right. We gotta play better. I've got to do a better job. 'cause and that's that's how simple it is. I mean, it's like that in anything in life. I don't care what it is, whether it's football with family, whether it's work, whatever may be, you know, sometimes, hey. Go out there and you get your, you know, get your acting sa-duk said eating a little asp, but they're ready to roll forward. You believe it mar said more than that said a lot. It's. Going back and looking at that Cavaliers game or so, the last two weeks. Like you pointed out, they've given up seventy points. So what do you hang your hat on with defense and that offense of performance against the Cowboys was so concerning. Dallas has a great defense at this at this point in the season, but they had sixty yards into the third quarter on offense. And there were two plays by bake portals through an incredibly awful interception and also took a sack that move them out of field goal range at one point. And I Don, I look at this game and say, if you don't get right against the Texans, I don't know what we think about the Jaguars going forward. They I don't. They have to take the here. We go again out of their oftens because the defense is gonna look at Bortles and look at that offense. And these worst case scenario starts to the games and they don't play his heart last week though, is a defense. I mean, they could not get off the field. They gave up twenty four points on four straight long drives to the Cowboys. And the Jaguars certainly started slow on offense. I mean, Dallas putting by half tiny new game. They were giving up pressure and that is. One thing that's I think the Jaguars thought their offensive line was going to be a lot better. This year they've lost a couple of tackles. They gave a lot of money to Andrew norwell who blew a block and the second drive of that game actually to give up a sack that that killed that drive. They're struggling backboard during left, right? So if you're struggling to protect Bortles, you've got no hope. And now you're going up against the Texans who we've been waiting for. Let's football gods give us one season of JJ watt and clowney together. Well, he it's happening here. It is. It's been happening. Thank your gods. Thank God. There was asking the football, God's good Jeb guys that we mowed the football gods, and then they give us what we want. And we don't even say, I do. I'm not a top. Everyone's wish list. I have some other wishes from the football gods that have gone unfulfilled up to now the Jagger's defense. Yeah, we the point Mark now you're right. I'm giving it up. That's why I brought it up. Good way to go. No, that was good job Jacksonville last year generated turnovers and wait as God in the football gods, different people very much. So geo d which different? I think he kinda, he ferried that out to the f. this is like umbrella of deity. I don't think this is the top thing algae both human contracts. Kind of ood here. Sation welcome to the theology podcasts for the next two hours. We're going to dig into God real imagined. Where is he or she. I think the Shawn Watson. John mclaughlin. Shawn Watson might have a crisis of faith. No one can keep him clean. He's taken twenty more hits than any other quarterback in the league, and you're starting to see it. See the effect of it where he's expecting it to come and he's bailing out and just like there. There's very few plays where he just kinda rolls back and gets rid of the. You're gonna go into Jacksonville with Callejas Campbell in Jahic and Gakugei and expect the tackles to keep you clean. I'm no, I'm, I'm surprised they don't. They're not doing anything with him on the run and the Cowboys. For instance, last week started to mix in some plays where the us Prescott mobility. They've almost overcorrected. I know they don't want to expose the Shawn Watson, but he's getting exposed trying to play pocket quarterback. I think they're wasting his gifts by not using them as more iota in the titans. All right. Let's move on the Detroit Lions coming off their. Bye at two and three head to Miami to face the dolphins. And once again, there will be no Ryan tannehill. We talked about it a little bit on when. Today's show, but the shoulder injury, which in a press conference today, Adam gaze said surgery is not on the table at this time for Ryan tannehill, but that doesn't mean we're going to see Ryan tannehill anytime. Soon. In fact, the NFL is digging around to see if the Miami Dolphins gave us gave the general public in the league enough info on this tannehill injury. So keep an eye on that, but it will be once again. Oh yeah, it's Brock toba. Can't. I would just go right to the next game. Thank you. There are people that tweeted us and say, occasionally, something will happen on the show where either there on a subway and they look psychotic because they're laughing or they're responding, or they simply almost drive their car off like British highway. That's why this happens. Wow, I'm sweating profusely to that, but I was held back hopefully. Oh yeah, I'll have a heart attack rock. The cradle of love that does have definitely not with that would be the tickets. Anyway, where were we? Oh, Brasco while they're starting. Again, these feel good about himself. Do you feel good about him? Greg? I mean, west. This? No, I don't think I'll ever feel good. I think Greg's right that there's not much difference in this offense between us wiler tannahill it's just get the ball into Albert Wilson's and to kimes grants hands and let them do their magic. But this is a sneaky, huge game this week. Really? Yes. Can you take these team series lose. No, I can't take them serious. No with you. Can you take the winter. I made at least they have at least I'm not writing them off. Well, I won't take Miami. So I think the Miami's probably alternately in eighteen. Are you going to take care take up soon? So. So hills injury is like no, no, no. Although I don't think the tannahill was a massive game changer for this team, but I, I really like what they did against the bears last week that they're much better team at home, but I don't take them like they're not a five in eleven team to me. They're gonna keep knocking people off every couple of weeks there. The heart, either two of the hardest teams to figure especially the dolphins. Because if you really look at what the, you know, we, if you look at what the dolphins have done week after week, other than the patriots game. They look like a pretty good team. I mean, they they could win or lose every game. They went up and down the field on the bears defense, which we couldn't stop talking about how great they were. The lions. I do think started to get a little more cohesive on offense before the by another didn't put up a lot of yards against the Packers, but they have a number one type of receiver Kenny golladay they have carry on Johnson plane pretty well. I think Stafford mud have played his best two games right before the by, like they're coming up a little bit. They are the dolphins of pulling off a pretty neat trick right now. They're four and two, which is. Six sixty six winning each trick and itself. Go six, six, seven, six, seven. So they've won four, their first six games, you're more accurate and they are the twenty fifth, ranked defense and the twenty seventh ranked offense. That's pretty neat and a yard yardage is, is nonsense get rid of yardage? Niners are the thirty nine eight could've easily won or lost every game they played except for the patriots had grace that great special teams. And overall, they've had a very good defense top ten defense by football outsiders, and they've made a lot of plays on special teams that's been a big forwards regression to the mean to the extent that, oh, ooh, I'm breaking the streak. I'm taking a road game. You're gonna lose this week. That would be the road team for the first time all year. Maybe the first time since we've done this, I'm taking the lines. I'm blocking it up. Okay with. Yeah, wait. I'm. I would know Brock, I, I'm exhausted with this like every everyone FOX to check out with everyone. I was gonna take the chargers. Like, no, that's too easy. They're so clearly better than they're, they're right up the line there at the touchdown favorite line that the rule, the room, where's it? Where we out on this, that we talk about this? Because we don't talk about these things at this point. No one seems to care, you know, they talk about it on every other network. We've been talking about it all. No one's listening guest at me bro. What's this. How in this game? I don't know. I would guess the dolphins are one point. Greg, just oddsmaker three and his own league policies show got one of those green visors right in the big classes like Robert deniro at the casino like the the lenses that are like three inches thick, Greg, you may find that our definitely. By the way, Greg, when you're seventy five and Musburger go, yeah, like you'll be alone at. It'll be the end of your life, and you'll be at a nice condo and San Diego with the big thick glasses unlike like eleven TV's and your and your living room, and that will be how you live out your days and you'll be very happy in San Diego or maybe he's like an east coast Foxwoods guy. I'm following the casino template because I recently watched that. That's where deniro ends up after Vegas kicks them out. Pulling a Paul Brown. I mean, you know, by then it'll be legal online everywhere, and you can just go, you can go all the way that him. The league office will be like have sponsors, and let's keep talking. We're gonna have televisions Greg's seventy. I don't know maybe anything else on this game go. So west locked it up west by the way six, which this would be. I it from the AT and lock it up. Twitter handle the record, I believe is Mark settler had six locks in a row at one point last year, I believe it was. So if you get your lines to give you a w, you're alone lines, but guess what? I'm gonna do that again. Imagine putting it all on the line with the line. That is, that's ballsy. Let's move on the Minnesota Vikings here. They come three point favorites. No respect for Brockton over the lines. Are they. So much. The Vikings, three, two, and one. A lot of people. A lot of hang hand wringing, especially from the zoo, sir. I thought that the vikes deep trouble, but to really nice wins in a row here at Philly, and then they took care of business cardinals. Now they head to the medal face the jets who are playing their best ball of the season back to back wins against the Broncos and Colt. So they end a three game homestand as it were against the Vikings. Big game here, Greg, for both teams are the Vikings back on track start there. You all in now on the Vikings. Again, I never was at, didn't have them in the playoffs for going into the season, so they are certainly playing better. My question for this game kind of are they gonna get after Sam darnold we saw Sam darnold can do when he's protected. He had all day against Indianapolis, and he looked fantastic. It's making. He's making jets games a lot more fun to watch and the Vikings, I think do really miss Everson Griffen. And it hasn't totally showed up yet. They're playing this guy. Steven Weatherly basically every snap. They're not rotating like they used to. And I think this is a game where if they can protect darnold and Dinio hunters, great. But if they can protect Arnold anywhere close to how they did a week ago that they're gonna have a shot. Let me ask you want because we just did a heat check on the dolphins and the jets to wins in a row. A lot of good play from darnold a lot of reasons for optimism you beat in the lions Broncos and colts is this the kind of game if you're going to look at the jets and so you've got to be super competitive against the Vikings if not pull this off at home for us to buy into you the same way we're asking to buy into Miami or the lions or one of these other things. So I don't think right now they should be lumped in with the wildcard contenders. Just from what I've seen from them. So far as much as I've enjoyed the last two weeks. I don't think either of those teams are very good, but if they play really well against the Vikings in and and west, we talked a little bit about this earlier this week if darnold puts together another good performance. This time it gets a real defense that's getting after us. And all of a sudden it's like, wait a second. This kid might have clicked for this kid. He's flying now like that can happen with a special rookie quarterback, then forget about it. I'm not even be here on Sunday night if the jets. Like if the jets win thirty two fourteen on Sunday, I'm going to be so bullish about this team in a wide open AFC. It'll be ridiculous. Now you'll be very pleasant. We were here for the I was at the twenty fifteen jets. Yes, which is talked about, like you know, like the sixty sixty nine Mets. They're honoring that team honoring that team. That's such a spoiled patriots fan sentiment by the way, teams that are bad when we were ten in all, that's a season that we. Enjoy look back getting. That's my point is that you are flying baby before all this malarkey fits magic was at the Meadowlands and it was a lot point is you were flying with that team and if the jets win this game and you have Sam darnold I would expect even better Ryan even hide giving it the good old litmus test game. This is a litmus test game. Yeah, sure. I think so. LT g they, they miss Everson Griffen, but Denise hunter is the only player in the league with a second every game. He's already has many saxes. All of last year might be on your midseason opera team. How about that? I'll Anthony, Anthony Barr. I thought had his best game last week. Harrison Smith made some big plays. This is still a good defense even without Everson. Griffen Vikings are catching the jets. By the way. I don't think the jets are gonna win. I want the Jetson but that. But you have to if I were in the same situation, I would not walk around saying, I think they're going to win, but you have to be excited. I thought that all of a sudden I'm one of those rare jets Optimus jets fan Optimus, but they are the Vikings are catching the jets at a very good time, Justice. Super banged up, especially at wide receiver where I don't even know who's playing this week, almost everyone is questionable or out and they're secondary. They're missing again, Tremaine Johnson. They're missing BUSTER screen. Marcus Marcus may is out. He broke his thumb. So Kirk cousins had a nice year. I think he's gonna throw for a lot of yards just like Angela cted last week. It's gonna be a tough game for the jets. Let's throw some credit to Claiborne who's having a great year. So good last year to a little play him. Oh. Let's move on. Carolina Panthers stumbled last week against the Redskins, and now they go to Philly to face the eagles whipped up on the giants with ease Mark, Cecil the eagles get their Mojo back after that statement win over the giants. I think so that game feels like it was five years ago, but that was one that was the performance we were waiting for from the offense. The one thing about the Panthers watching that game against the Redskins where Washington control them in the first half by generating turnovers and shutting down the run. And if you're Carolina and you can't run the ball, I don't see a lot of hope for this offense and the eagles have held teams under eighty yards, rushing and five of six games. So from that standpoint, your challenge, if you're Carolina is to do what no team hasn't really done against the eagles so far, I think you nailed it when the Panthers don't run the ball. They're easy to beat and last week even if they had run the ball. Like you said, those turnovers DJ more. You gotta keep playing them, but there's two lost fumbles huge and that killed him. Busted coverage on Vernice Vernon, Davis. Twice the defense. Like that's what the problem was. If for the for the concern that I raised on this show about their defensive tackle position, you said it with their run defense, and they have more quarterback hits on the defensive line than any team in the league. The Panthers have actually done a pretty good job protecting Cam Newton. The Tyler offense of line coach is a wizard. Yeah, they always, they always manage to figure out it's not an easy game, but I think for right now I've said it already that I'm writing the eagles you know, until they lose. So I'm just going to lock it up. Ooh, wait, right. So then that would mean you'd be locked up next week at Jacksonville, listen, London, and then there's a by lock that up. That's what then I then I'll probably often we'll, we'll look at how you. You can't lock them up during a good, pick a lock them up against Jacksonville, lock them up next week. Let's do it. I think the eagles are going to have Carson Wentz you know. Leaves the country. If he's abduct signers, militants you take them. This isn't a gimme. You're gonna lock right now and you can't lock under any. All right, Mark it down. We're gonna. Forget. I won't. It's pretty easy this good pick. Right. Because I think the eagles now I'm starting to really think they're gonna take control this division winning by a couple of games. I think they're back to. I think it's eleven and five team, and they're going to pick up wins like this at home. You got this one of the back -gratulations. I don't think the Panthers can beat anyone. They, they have the no one's no one's blown. I was doing that for a fact. It was just having a little fun. You know, that's all my bad. No one's willing out the Panthers there in every they're one of those. I think there playoff type team to agree. Like I have to run one really quick announcement. Yes, happy birthday belated birthday to Cameron Ritchie from Sydney, his girlfriend. Francis DM me quite a while ago, asking me to say that and I never did very nice girlfriend work. But if you're if you're listening to this and think that we're girlfriend? No, no Sydney from note Francis from Sydney from Australia. What month was his birthday in October, but I'm a little late on the on the message, but by the way, just for other listeners thinking that that's going to happen by contacting us about other birthdays. No, this is a one time. I was gonna say it's dangerous. It's a one time thing and I promised. I would do it in there. It's out of the I would say, if you were gonna target any one of the four Marx is your best chanice do not do not. I mean with. Shout a doubt if you ever to raise. More personal connection to our show without a doubt, the best odds for any type of relationship, and I won't get into more detail even not attempt to marxists grams. Good. Yeah. So you not attempt to get your birthday announced on this show through this channel at all love this personal thing. I'd have to look. I believe it was Tober eighth or so right early. Henman Richie one time one time of their the Cleveland Browns. Oh, the brownies, not looking too good at home last week against the charges, but that's in the rear view mirror. Now they get to travel to Tampa to face. One of the worst defense isn't football. In fact, so bad that Mike Smith got the sword in the belly this week fired as the defensive coordinator. So here we are Chris Wesseling the battle of two former number one overall picks Baker Mayfield and James Win