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BRITTANY MURPHY: Loved to Death

Death by Misadventure: True Paranormal Mystery

34:12 min | 1 year ago

BRITTANY MURPHY: Loved to Death

"Our episodes do of serious and often distressing incidents. I may not be suitable for children if he struggled with addiction, so depressed or through subtle thoughts, and you need support. Please. Contact your local crisis center or each out to a friend to ask for help. Eddie morning hours of some of the twentieth. Two thousand nine Britney muftis life would take Chillington author and unexpected power outage. And our exclusive Hollywood neighborhood where she lived with her mother and her husband Simon Lungi young actress, he still wants shined bright and films clueless gardens routed and eight mile was thirty fading. She had been battling the flea for several weeks adopted the lights came back on and over salmon would find his wife collapsed in the bathroom floor gasping for breath. Mysteriously? It would take several hours before britney's husband will mother would call nine one one despite a desperate cries for help. It was reported. They claim to vote there was pathetic to her illness. They didn't realize how serious it was. Because Britney was always so dramatic. However, I take a dehydrated overmedicated Britney with collapse on the floor unconscious mother and husband would make a frantic linemen coup Portland. Paramedics arrived they determined. She was in full cardiac arrest, sadly, two hours later, cedar Sinai hospital should be pronounced dead at the age of thirty two. Join us on a supernatural journey as we explore the short, but explosive life Brittany Murphy. We would explore her rise to start him investigate the factor for untimely death under veal, why father believes she was murdered. This is death, by misadventure. Britney Enver fee was born on November tenth nineteen seventy seven in Atlanta, Georgia to an Irish mother. Sharon, Murphy, and an Italian father, Angelo, Berta, low T, Sharon, met, Angelo. When she went to work for him where he owns strip bars and discos in Florida and Georgia, the young Sharon was attracted to his money and his bad boy image. He was living life on the edge. And he was well connected. But what initially attracted Sharon to her husband soon, repelled her and she divorced him. When Britney was only two years old. She would move with her daughter to Edison New Jersey, but they would never completely escape Angelo's influence britney's father was heavily involved in organized crime and spent most of his life in and out of prison. However, even though he was incarcerated Angelo continue to provide financial support for Britney and her mom. Sharon, Britney attended Verne Fowler school of dance theater arts in Colonia, New Jersey in nineteen eighty two from the age of four she trained in singing, dancing and acting. By the time Britney was eight she had big dreams to become a Hollywood star. She began pushing her mother to help her get headshots hire a manager and driver into Manhattan for casting additions Angelos still in prison help behind the scenes with money to finance as little girls dreams to become an actress when Britney turned twelve her mother. Sharon, realized her daughter was not only determined, but incredibly talented encouraged by her success Britney Astor mom, if they could move to California, and Sharon sold everything. So they could move to LA in nineteen ninety one at the time Britney was only thirteen years old. But her career was about ready to take off. When she landed in LA Britney began landing jobs for TV commercials almost immediately which led to guest appearances on sitcoms, like Murphy Brown and boy meets world. Britney got her first big break on TV as a regular on the FOX sitcom Drexel's class. She also had recurring roles on sister sister and party of five. Sharon, the perfect stage. Mom supported britney's efforts and encouraged her creativity. She always believed in our daughter and was very protective of her. The breakthrough role that pushed her to the brink of stardom was Brittany second feature film. The teen comedy clueless. The movie starred Alicia SilverStone as share a shallow rich and popular student at Beverly Hills high school who coaxes his to teachers into dating each other Brittany Murphy plays the role of tie an insecure and klutzy new student who share gives a makeover when Ty becomes more popular than share. She realizes that her disapproving ex step brother was right about how misguided she was. Brindley soon followed with other starring roles in the film freeway in nineteen ninety six with Reese Witherspoon and Kiefer Sutherland in nineteen ninety nine she landed a supporting role in Girl Interrupted as a troubled psychiatric patient alongside Winona Ryder. And Angelina Jolie she also voiced the character of luanne platter on FOX's animated sitcom king of the hill for the entirety of the shows run from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand nine and Joseph Griddle until the fifth season. However, what many fans might not know is Brittany Murphy also sang a group called blessed soul in the early nineteen ninety s she even had a number one dance hit with Paul who can fold in two thousand six called faster kill pussycat from the album, a lively mind, she continued to dabble in music with the release of the film. Happy feet. Where she covered Queen song somebody to love and earth wind and fire boogie wonderland Britney. In an interview said about her character, Gloria oddly enough of all the characters I've played Gloria is the most like me and she's a penguin. It was right after such a career high that Brittany Murphy slide would soon take a dark turn after meeting. Her future husband, Simon mon-, Jack. Brittany. Murphy was born into the zodiac sign of Scorpio, and she was driven passionate and emotionally intense. Young woman in the last few years of her life. She became even more vulnerable and fragile as she desperately sought to find a partner. One of her most high profile romances before marrying. Her husband Simon was with Ashton Kutcher in the early two thousands. What many fans may not know that prior to dating the clueless star Ashton dated Ashley Ellerman an aspiring model and part time stripper. However, she was tragically murdered in two thousand one by her neighbor and the tragedy left the actor heartbroken. Ashton devastated by the loss of Ashley would later. Start a romance with Britney after the relationship blossomed on the movie set of just married where they played a young couple on their honeymoon. And the two started dating the love affair was short lived. But Britney helped heal is broken heart. And they would split seven months later afterwards. She went on to star in the powerful film, eight mile opposite Eminem playing his love interest. Alex is the two crew very close on the set and a romance developed offscreen as well. But the relationship ended after the film was completed. It was around this time that Brittany lost a tremendous amount of weight, and it was rumored she was suffering from cocaine addiction, which he adamantly denied over the next couple of years. Brittany went on to have a string of Hollywood romances where she would quickly get engaged and then break up she would lie. Later state an insightful interview about her complicated love life. After a breakup. She said it takes a couple of weeks for the fog to settle, but it's always a period of self priority and growth. Life percents. She was so many decisions a lot of times the right in front of your face, and they're really difficult, but we must make them. Unfortunately, sometimes relationships just don't work out. It's just the way life goes. But hopefully, you learned from them. Over the past year. I've discovered if you keep on giving and giving you end up losing yourself. I think that learning to give and receive is the trick. Perfect happiness is always a feeling and the most amazing thing is that we're all born with the gift to make it happen in a heartbeat. Putting on certain using reading something can make us feel a certain way affirmations letting ourselves breathe enjoying our loved ones and enjoying being in our own skin. I think the key to happiness is allowing ourselves to not feel bad or guilty for feeling it and letting it be contagious and to not be dependent on other people to create your own happiness. The last two men to capture her heart before meeting. Her future husband, Simon was her talent manager, Jeff quantites and afterward. Joe muck Olu a production assistant, she met while working on the film little black book. She was briefly engaged to both men. But once again unlucky in love both relationships ended after just a few months. But fate soon stepped in and she met her future husband Simon mon- Jack up high seas on the surface friends found the relationship to be an unusual romance. While Brittany was a beautiful and fun loving. Actress her new husband Simon was an older frumpy British movie director with money problems who face deportation prior to their shotgun wedding. The marriage was kept hush hush until an us weekly reporter spotted the pair wearing wedding rings at the Kentucky Derby in early may two thousand seven. However, like most true Hollywood celebrity scandals Simon had assorted history, including a pair of warrants issued in Virginia for alleged credit card fraud that was later dropped also a five hundred thousand dollar judgement against him in two thousand six following a lawsuit by British investment firm and a nine day jail stint and February two thousand seven enforced by custom officials for overstaying his work visa still Britney was in love and she quickly formed an intense codependent relationship with her husband just like she had with her mother. Sharon together, they were the three musketeers and completely inseparable. But early on there was trouble in paradise and rumors swirled that Brittany had a substance abuse problem soon, she fell under the spell of the dark side of Hollywood becoming hooked on prescription drugs and growing painfully thin due to her eating disorders. Her husband and partner in crime. Simon was no help. He had his own addiction issues and suffered from depression, the dysfunctional relationship between the couple was fueled by Simon's behavior on movie sets while Brittany was filming he would show up drunk and belligerent and soon Hollywood no longer wanted to work with her britney's once promising career soon slipped into a downward spiral just prior to her death. the final days of Brittany Murphy's. Life tells the sad tale of talented Hollywood actress who starred was fading. She was living in a house. She hated and was living in a city. She no longer loved, but by December of two thousand nine britney's health had declined she was sick with the flu and depressed over being fired from her latest, fill the caller. A source who worked on the movie told access Hollywood about her strange behavior and she was replaced because her husband Simon was drunk and disruptive on the set. Unhappy and feeling rejected by Hollywood who once welcomed her with open arms. Britney was ready for a change and wanted to move to New York to resurrect her career in the indie film scene. Fuelling her downward spiral was to dysfunctional relationship. She shared with both her mother, Sharon and husbands Simon lawn. Jack. She relied heavily on them for emotional support. And it appeared they were nibbling her destructive lifestyle by encouraging her to self medicate. One pharmacist Eddie Buber of Eddie's drugs in west Los Angeles told the Hollywood reporter he had become alarmed by the frequency and amounts of their drug purchases and suspected they were doctor shopping getting drugs from multiple sources. He confronted Simon in August two thousand nine and told him to take their business. Elsewhere Buber said he feared that they were being over Medicated, though, we never imagined could have such deadly consequences, Simon, Sharon, he said got drugs under their own names. But Britney preferred alias Lola Manilow which Buber was aware of. In the early morning hours of December twentieth. Two thousand nine her life would soon take a chilling turn after a power outage in her exclusive Hollywood hills neighborhood where she lived with her husband and mother. Shortly after the lights came back on Britney who had been battling the flu for several weeks. Went out to the balcony to get some fresh air gasping for breath. She cried out to her husband to get her mom Sharon came downstairs and founder daughter gasping for breath. Her lips blue from lack of oxygen as her lungs filled with fluid Brittany reached out to her mom asking for help saints. She loved her. And she was scared. She was going to die. This is where the story gets even darker, although Britney was clearly in distress Sharon, Simon, although sympathetic didn't take her ailments. Seriously, her mother would later state in an interview better daughter was always so dramatic and when Britney asked to use his oxygen machine Simon refuse claiming it would make her heart. Stop. Sharon, then made her daughter hot tea with ginger in limited drink Britney returned to her bathroom around seven thirty AM telling her mother, I really don't feel well at eight AM she collapsed on the floor with her mother making the haunting nine one one. Call. Civil emergency. Glen road phone number. You're calling from what happened? She's she's doing about please, go your. Okay. We're going to hold is your daughter, please. Without any breathing. Anything? Brady. Yes. Or no, ma'am. Hello. Hello. Blew it. Just takes the second. Can you feel here? New brady. Yes. This carefully. I'm gonna tell you how to do compressions. Okay. Just. Looking to continue. Did anybody? See what happens? Anybody? See what happen? He did he could walk rate ethical. Taking any medications at all. No medications. Pretty Murphy was then rushed to cedars Sinai Medical Center where she was pronounced dead at tunnel. Four AM. As news of her death broke her friends her fans and co stars began sharing tribute messages to the late star interview riposted a haunting conversation between drew Barrymore in Brittany Murphy that was featured in the magazine a few years before death. Drew, ask Brittany to share thoughts on life and death. She was asked if she were to die and come back. What would she come back as Britney answered a Redwood tree? It was the perfect heartfelt response from the actress who's born with the life pass number nine. She was an old soul in a Redwood tree is considered to be the symbol of wisdom and communication. The tree representing physical and spiritual nourishment transformation and union. The karmic ties between her mother, Sharon and husband Simon had come full circle. Had Brittany's death been just a tragic accident or was there a more sinister motive behind their odd behavior on the day. She died. The circumstances over death and their actions. Let to more questions than answers. after her shocking death, the focus would turn to her husband's silent and shady past with friends and family asking why didn't he seek proper medical care for his wife. And why was she taking so many drugs in their investigation. The LA county coroner concluded that Britney Murphy died as a result of pneumonia combined with anemia and multiple drug and toxication from prescription and over the counter medication. What's even sadder? According to the coroner Britney could still be alive today. Had she seen doctor sooner. Tragic story of Brittany Murphy short, but memorable. Life would get even stranger just five months later for husband. Simon would die in the bedroom. He shared it with his wife. What was the cause of death? The coroner said it was exactly the same as britney's a case of pneumonia and anemia in the shocking twist of fate not only did both of their mysterious deaths raise suspicion, but it made Brittany's father question of his daughter had been murdered one outspoken skeptic is respected for insect pathologic. Dr Cyril Wecht who after reviewing the Brittany Murphy's case told news, I had questions initially and those questions still remain. The doctor says that though it's not impossible for two people that die of pneumonia while living in the same house within such a brief period. It is pretty darned rare. On the horizon. There were several theories brewing over Brittany and Simon strange deaths and her father was going to lead the investigation to find out the truth on what killed his daughter. Brittany. Murphy was laid to rest in twilight ceremony on Christmas Eve on December twenty fourth two thousand nine at the forced long memorial park in Hollywood hills. Her husband Simon mon- Jak gave a eulogy in which he described her as his best friend and soulmate little did. He know that he would join his wife in the afterlife, just five months later. After the funeral her family released a statement that read Britney wasn't incredibly loving and passionate person and an artist to our core. She loved acting singing, dancing and performing a bright light that lit the world is forever dims, but will live on in the hearts of those that Britney touched. However looming in the background was the burning question if Brittany Murphy's deaths was truly accident. Or was there a more sinister motive behind her tragic passing? Unconvinced by the coroner's findings britney's father obtained a court order to get testing done on britney's hair samples, and according to E news, they found abnormally high levels of ten potentially toxic heavy metals among them barium, which is used in rat poison. After the lab test findings britney's father was quoted sane IVA feeling that there was definitely a murder situation here. Calling his claims madness britney's mother, Sharon Murphy, promptly wrote a letter to the Hollywood reporter late two thousand thirteen that asserted. His claims are based on the most flimsy of evidence and are more of an insult than an insight into what really happened. She wrote I have chosen to stay out of the limelight. Since the tragic and sudden death of my wonderful talented loving daughter for years ago this December twentieth. From the day of her breath. Britney was my precious little girl more dear to me than anything or anyone in the universe. I have been devastated by her loss. And that of my son-in-law Simon and have remained in seclusion in my morning. She went on to say that she raised Britney as a single mom because her father was imprisoned for over twelve years, and how they shared in the specially close relationship to to the fact she battled cancer twice. Adding her father never saw Britney in the last few years of her life and was motivated by money to claim that perhaps she had been murdered. Although britney's mother believes that her daughter's death was accidental. It was cleared. So the L A corner statement it could have easily been prevented. The other disturbing facts found during the investigation was the police found over ninety empty pill bottles in the bedroom. Britney shared with her husband Simon Edwige her from the coroner's office said that both Brittany and Simon lived in unhealthy lifestyle and abused their bodies. He believed it caused the couple to die under similar circumstances. However, many of britney's friends and family on the couple similar death beyond strange and believe there may have been fall play. We discovered along the way while investigating Brittany Murphy. Steph, the many compelling conspiracy theories were probably feel by her mother, Sharon and Simon's odd behavior after her tragic death, what shocked most friends and family was when Brittany Murphy's mother told investigators that she shared a bed with her daughter's husband, Simon after she died, according to a celebrity website TMZ whether or not the two data or perhaps just providing each other comfort due to their overwhelming grief. Simon would die just a few months later after Britney passed away. What many find suspicious is just before his death? Simon's mother would perceive a disturbing phone call from her son. She has a mobile phone recording with him and spoke to him the night of his death as he laid dying in his wife's Hollywood mansion where he still lived with her mother. Sharon murphy. Daily comprehensible. She said in the interview with Daily Mail, his speech was oddly drawn out and slurred. He kept saying he was sick and needed to go to the hospital in the background his mother-in-law. Sharon can be heard saying that he should tell the doctor. He had a temperature of one hundred and four, but he too just like his wife Britney would never receive the medical healthy needed. His mom Linda claims she pleaded with Sharon over and over during his final hours to get medical help. But she refused to call an ambulance. Sharon told Linda that she'd been through this before and that Simon was over the worst Linda would speak with Sharon again at four AM, and she would state Simon had vomited up a black substance and his eyes had been rolling in the back of his head Linda asked whether he was unconscious, but Sharon told her that Simon was asleep. However, a few hours later at seventy I'm Sharon called sobbing hysterically, stating Simon was dead. That house. Call the sets. Plus it we get here. Fifty. The house. I that's fun, which is correct. Save number. I wouldn't number cool because device going into the house worry about that just gets him out. What happened? He said in life, step breezy. Help right while we're talking with them out. See forty three forty two. It is he'll wake or not a way. He's just breathing. Sweeping not freezing. Not breathing. Oh, I am simply help out there on the way while we're talking did you, ma'am? Help me out here. Yeah. Stop it. I'm the only one year of stops talking and start listening. So I can use us to help me. Can't beat her. Hello. Did you did you see what happened or not? No children on anything laying. I need stores. Freezing. Britney's half, brother. Tony would later state in an interview that's to people who have died living in that house within six months winner. People going to open their eyes about what was going on. The story would get even weirder. When Sharon a lawsuit claiming that the home where Britney and Simon died may have had toxic mold present and could have contributed to their death. Although no evidence of the effects of a mold infection was found in britney's body by the coroner the results of any environmental reviews of the mansion have never been made public. In two thousand eleven Sharon would sell britney's home to a developer for two point seven million dollars. Also, she would later go on to sell her daughters personal memorabilia, including her dresses from previous films, and even her passport via Julien's auction in two thousand sixteen Hollywood medium Tyler Henry in an e episode would connect with Brittany Murphy spirit, while giving a reading to her dear friend, Jaime Pressley, he told her we have a younger woman who stepping forward who feels like she's passed away too soon. And when she's coming through she's making my lungs hurt quite a bit Tyler said. He would go on to say, mentally, this feels strange physically this feels strange. She's blaming an outside influence in saying she was in a very manipulative situation where I actually feel an outside person was detrimental in influencing a lot of her actions are in actions in certain areas, leaving us to wonder was Britney spirit, referring to her husband, Simon or her mother. Sharon today. The star crossed lovers are buried next to each other at forest lawn memorial park in Los Angeles, California. After her death. French said Brittany Murphy from the most comfortable mother, Sharon with whom she was intensely close the to live together for years. Even though many founded told, however Britney couldn't imagine life without. Amum was a soulmate golden and best friend. The extraordinary close relationship. We speculate may have been fueled by the fact that Brittany's mum was a breast cancer survivor designed to keep him close after almost losing such deadly disease. We discovered in a row the haunting final note britney's high school prom date was none other than Jonathan Brandis you dated briefly. But it would ride the Hollywood variety case of fame and fortune on each would infamously died young age, sadly Jonathan committed suicide due thousand and three because he was depressed. I've as waiting career and Brittany were full of him into the live just six years later. In the end. We may never know the future stardom push Britney Murphy of the edge while she was just a victim of tragic circumstances. Either way she'll be remembered tiny for beauty. I'm Tom thoughtful, gentle soul. Death, by misadventure was produced by cosmic media and written by me JC. Nova are supernatural team of co hosts includes the talented Duardo Fahey in London. Tom drei, our master numerology and paranormal investigator in LA Paul Robinson match I amuse edition and Marin and myself, I'm a psychic astrologer and paranormal investigator in Los Angeles and San Francisco. This episode was recorded at Robin sound studios Marin, California and also at union recording studio in West Hollywood, California kudos to sound engineers. Paul Robinson and Noah Shanklin, a special. Thanks to audio producer Christopher laying in Tucson who brings each episode to life and Paulina from upper planet in London. She's responsible for the super cold design of our official website. She's also the designer for one of our favorite true crime podcast case file, please like and follow us on Facebook. At WWW dot Facebook dot com slash death, by misadventure podcast. Each episode is available for download direct VR our website at death, by misadventure dot CO dot UK and also at ITN's Google play cast box Spotify pod being tune in radio public and Stitcher. Last. But not least our podcast is hosted by Lipson, I'm Tracy Nova and this has been death, by misadventure. Thanks for listening.

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Ep 5  UPTOWN GIRLS with Lorraine Degraffenreidt

Shut Up I Love It

55:05 min | 1 year ago

Ep 5 UPTOWN GIRLS with Lorraine Degraffenreidt

"Hey everybody I'm Sasha filer. Steven Cohen and this is shut up. I love it at podcast. Where guests come onto champion of part of culture? That's underrated and or underappreciated joining us today. She is an internet and live theater comedian based in Los Angeles she writes sketch comedy for the UCB Martine team the summer of and she loves big on podcasts professional credits so lorraine's I already gave out her spoiler alert in converting on netflix crazy ex girlfriend superman Shin and Beau Jack Horsemen joining us. Today's Lorraine nine did graph what's up guys even Sasha thank you so much for having me thank you for being here today to talk about. We're going to talk about out generally loosely Brittany Murphy and Brittany Murphy movies but very specifically and sharply uptown girl Charles via the film uptown girls starring Brittany Murphy and Dakota fanning very young and cute man say Dakota Fan I would say Dakota fanning is is the real star of this bill real quick brief summary of what this movie is about Brittany. Murphy is the daughter of a deceased kind of rock legend. This is named Tommy Gun. Tom Tom Gun molly gun is her name. She kinda lives this life of luxury as a socialite in New York City until will her wealth disappears and she's forced to take a job as a nanny to a precocious Mullis precocious the right word Andrea Yeah freak a freaky child rich adjusted child and you really asking yourself the question question. Who's the adult here? Who's the adult who is the child adults? Here is the answer as one of the famous quotes of the film. Ah That's generally like the rough summary of the movie right Lorraine. Why do you like uptown girls? God what it is in there too like okay. I'll start by talking about personal connection staff. They'll give myself away. There's a lot of good like daddy daughter Vibes for this movie. If you are a young woman who had a really close relationship with your father or you had had any kind of like friction fraught relationship with your father. You're GonNa love this movie. You'RE GONNA it's GonNa tug at your heartstrings. You're saying there's something here for any father daughter relating father daughter relationship except maybe it sounds like I it along really strong relationship. You're GONNA love it. It really fracture homage feelings about your dad. Maybe Watch I was GONNA say clueless but I'm like Nope nope because there's some daddy daughters up there. Do whatever just stop watching movies. If that's you go talk to your dad go talk to the column Tax Tim Check in also I was. I grew up going to like private girls Carol School like that kind of thing and that's big in this movie. It's sort of like subtle. You will miss it on your. I watch but it's like really important like that's what the Dakota fanning characters there's going through and it's what the movie characters going through. I studied ballet for like ten years. Not a lot of people know this about me but the ballet thread ooh. I love it feeling out of time with coming of age stuff. I kind of feel like I've had a million adolescence. I I feel like it's not done. I think I'm still going through an awkward phase and this movie is really good for that. It's never too late or too early to be growing up. It does sound like a really good movie when I this is all good okay. Also my name is Lorraine. The Dakota fanning characters name is also lorraine even especially spells it lorraine like Lorraine Newman's name Lorraine but yeah being a young person with an old person's name. It's a very specific experience a and I caught that and I'm like yes. Do you tell people to call you ray. No I deny that people growing up called me a lot of things like rain rainy and and then as I got older and met other Lorraine's they thought it was crazy that I went by Lorraine. They're like you don't go by. Laurie and I'm like who is Laurie. I don't see there are no L. Lorries here. I don't know her being a foreign person like to me. Name Lorraine sounds very nice like I don't think the baggage at a nice Melih fluish so to win like cellar door Fazalur Door Lorraine. I also fucking love pop music and so this this movie is great for that we can on this podcast. No I think I've said the F. Word before. Don't tell my parents. The last thing I want to say is that Donald Donald Phase on is basically my older brother Lake my older brother act like donald phase on like if if ever where I get the chance to like make the movie that's my brother's life. I Really Hope Donald Phase John would down to play him was he. Bigger scrubs right big on jobs being sweet list so many other things he he has like a bit character in can't hardly wait. He shows up in Josie and the PUSSYCATS I. I don't think he's the boy grew He's so funny. He's so good. Also I think okay everybody's always like Oh. Paul Rudd dozen an age what Magic Elixir Paul Rudd have sure but Donald as on more than Paul Rudd like. I think it's racist that people are ignoring Donald Alpha on that conversation. It's important so I wonder if people are worried that they would be called racist for pointing the all black don't crack. I forgot I forgot because I and black remember. The only thing mm scarier than actual racism is a white person afraid of being called racist. I think is worse because it's like a fear of like I don't want to you. You're stuck but when you're actually I think you're just like free. Oh yes white power the interesting thing about this movie though there's only one black character I think there's might be another made off-color and doorman yeah. I think there's a doorman and I think Lou man. That movie is hell away. I think just like the uptown everyone knows New York City to watch to see one of the nurses in the house might be black. You don't get a great sense of her life outside of Nanning for rail even though she lives with these people for different amounts of time she has a friend named Ingrid played by Marley Shelton who she lives with her while who is just kind of church even like really like Weirdo the really weird I would say that that friendship if we can call it that is the most far-fetched unbelievable thing in the whole movie and this movie is pretty fantastical. I call this a modern day fairy tale. There's a lot of magic in Whimsey and like that would never happen but that friendship is the hardest for me to lay hosts a lot of yoga parties hardee's and cooking with our baking very badly portrayed Indian yoga teacher. I think the actress who played Ingrid had to fight the meanness of her character the way it was written because a lot of times I'll be like she just said a horrible thing. She's a very bad human being and then it will look at her and she would give this sweet smile the need and I'll be like oh no no she likes her. Do you think that's a failing of the performance it's or that's Marley Shelton trying to put some dimension into this. That's not on the page the latter I think there's a lot of tone issue with this movie and that's just one of the manifestations of maybe poor directing but definitely the actor just fighting two-dimensional character that they've been given yet to be fair to her. She wasn't given a lot to you. Work with on the page like there's the be where she's planned this whole surprise party for her friend who's still late and invested in this is in the beginning any and like that's kind of hard to sell like what's going on with this friend like why doesn't she just know what's up with her sleeping friend. You know what I mean like. Why didn't she just the send someone to go getter and like figure out how to trigger to you know y y like what is this character already? You're an issue that persist Subaru to the end of the movie wherein characters make plans around the Brittany Murphy character but seem to also understand that there's a pretty the chance she's just so. It's so strange. It's like if this person were in your life you would not expect them to be anywhere at any given time anyway and then there's the whole threat of like the whole middle part where Brittany Murphy is kind of homeless and she's taking her in and it seems like there's the strange like pygmalion relationship like she wants to convert her into this like stay at home mom that isn't attached to anything. She has two friends that are like her in this like very button down hyper white way and yeah it does seem like she's trying to Stepford wives Murphy to write yes. I don't want to erase the fact that one of the friends Asia True True Yeah. That's that's on me. I guess I met white in person but no you're right definitely white performance these were very white friendships and so then but she won't right Britney will not to did this and so then she goes and stays with donald phase impressive to me that the Brittany Murphy character even comes up with half the rent as she is instructed to do we know that Rantiss Hugh Crazy town so Dakota fanning is the daughter of a record mogul played by Heather locklear. She runs a studio a label that Donald is also works for so. I bet her pay as pretty good on that that nanny be like definitely more than I wanNA say all of us make yeah whatever it is that we do. The Heather locklear character is the kind of mom who's is just GONNA pay for problems to go away so she's like let me just give this nanny the kind of money where she doesn't follow up with questions just take this is money in solve whatever problems come with your nanny life so I should have you seen this movie before and if not what was your impression of Brittany Murphy going into this because this is kind kind of that I can think of this is the Brittany Murphy vehicle from her short. You know tragically short career. You feel that way. You feel like this is a v. V. One this is the one that is couched as a Brittany Murphy Movie Little Black Book Now. I don't know what that is a love Rahman girl now. I think the issue this podcast will be the fact Stephen and I am not very into watching. Maybe the kind of movies that Brittany Murphy would be an clueless. I haven't seen eight mile but that is not neither of those are like a Brittany Murphy movie those those are movies that Britain Murphy's in and yeah these movies that you're naming lowering love and other disasters movies. I've never even heard of second. I just feel like there's there's this whole like niche in the the movie scape that I have access to that. No one else in the world has access you like how are people not seeing these. These are pretty movies are so good and so this I think is the one that kind of had escape velocity right. This is a movie that most people who who were active in pop culture at the time. This movie came out half heard of if not see. I didn't even know that like I am. I am so like living under a rock in this area. They didn't realize that uptown girls was like somehow set apart from those other ones. I listed like to me those are on the same level but and also Stephen Stephen You told me before that on rotten tomatoes people don't like this movie and we get into that this movie's rotten tomatoes scores Teens. I think from fourteen to thirteen thirteen recently so I looked at fourteen added a new negative review. I'm so confused I don't understand. I feel like we're watching different movies so Sasha what is your if any connection to attend girls and Brittany Murphy. I don't have any connection with this movie or Washing Brittany Murphy movies specifically. I am not like a big Rom. com fairy tale kind of whimsical is definitely the word that would turn me off the movie. Usually they're exceptions Charlie and the chocolate factory Tim Burton one yeah. I kinda work them yeah but you know anywhere around calm. Though oh no I was saying I think if you watch that movie again you'll find a road to so anyway I guess for me. This experience of watching this movie is the encapsulation of Brittany Murphy and acting this. Is Your Brittany Murphy impression right now yes. That's a you know what I'd like that. We have that perspective here because I can't wait to hear what that makes you think of her for for me. I did see this movie around when it came out not in theaters I con like home video. Shall We say came out in two thousand three yeah. I've seen several movies that she's in clueless as the one that jumps to mind most clearly but yeah I did not have a strong connection to uptown girls. I was more than willing to go back and revisit it and I was interested to see some of the other people in it. Including Donald Phase on who I definitely I watched scrubs at the time so I was a fan of his and also Jesse Spencer's Jesse Spencer plays a character named Neil Fox and you may know Jesse Spencer. You may know him from house where he played English doctor. I think that was his Co.. Fire Very long running glad glad you guys had any other credits this guy because me no I have to imagine he's probably playing an American on Chicago Fire Right. He's probably not I would think so. I wonder how his American accent is will never find out because no one has ever watched that show. You know it's been on for ten years so yeah I was interested to see him in this movie also Austin Pendleton who is like a mainstay of neo screwball comedies from the seventies. He's the other tenant in her building who doesn't like that. She has flowers in the hall. Yeah Yeah I remember that very small part but yes so I was excited to revisit it and have thoughts that we can talk you experience. Your own change in this two screenings when the manual before in the menu are now you know I think before I wasn't Neil Fox and now I'm a Huey. You're just making fun of this movie which is formative for me and I've only person here who cries when this movie is playing. Yes because I did not cry Mike. There were a couple of moments in this movie where I could feel the movie making that effort to pull on my heart cries from you. Nursing was produced did not completely fail in that regard. I did feel some emotion at certain parts like the end I even though I have a lot of problems with the ending thing like I I can't wait to get into. Why don't we get into getting now so we established the premise right? She's the nanny for this girl. They are kind of teaching each other about about life. Brittany Murphy is learning how to be more mature Dakota fanning as learning how to be a kid all the while Brittany Murphy kind of obsessed with this musician played by Jesse Spencer and it's kind of inexplicable why she saw him she liked him. She brought him home. Did they have sex. It's implied sir. Donald Phase on introduces us to the concept of this character is being celebrate but then they do have sex sheet kind of becomes obsessed with him. He is is not that interested but her kind of driving force for I'd say like the first half of the movie is to get him interested in her again. Witch is lame but she kind of learned over the course of the movie that he's not important. Hidden talents should did not know about that. Come out out of this back-and-forth enforcement this guy also there's a pit where the code if any has invited her to tea which is a really big deal and she says were people at you down. People are disappointing instead of of wallowing and heartbreak over some stupid guy you should probably take some time to do something for yourself and out of the mouth of eight year old and and so the transition has this new real relationship with this eight year old and they are best friends I guess and she does she focuses more on on herself and improving her life and in that time she discovers that Neil this musician is like a total Lake Liege and has like ripped her off intellectual property wise and like his image and everything about his pop stardom kind of is a tribute to what he gleaned from his brief friendship with Molly and she's all like well. I really don't need this guy. He just steals from me so Dakota Fanning's father is uh in a persistent vegetative state after a stroke Brittany Murphy kind of encourages Dakota Fanning distill have trying to have a relationship with him despite the fact that he can't have a relationship back. He dies next day. Find that funny I think at that is it it's tragic and possible that could so happen the good it could. He was GONNA die anyday. That's True Dakota. Fanning does establish that he's going to die soon toward the beginning of the movie he dies Dakota fanning out from the screenwriter to be like this is not going to be just a random thing that happens because he is about today any day and I find there's a lot of moments like that in the there's a lot of just bad timing. Also I'm like googling now for the first time and I'm seeing being that everyone hates his movie so sad for me so passes Dakota fanning is very upset blames Brittany Murphy for making her care and bring Murphy's fired anyway they reconcile at the end of the movie on Coney Island and then sometime passes Brittany Murphy is deciding. She's going to go to fashion design school but she realizes in this interview she's late for Dakota fanning's ballet recital and at the Recital Dakota fanning's like I knew I know she's not going to make it. She never comes despite that fact Dakota fanning has planned an entire performance that is specifically designed for the audience of Brittany Murphy. No one else in this audience should really really understand what is happening. Bring Murphy as part of her loss of money had to sell all fathers guitars and they he ended up getting sold for a pretty good amount five thousand dollars seventy five thousand dollars to an anonymous buyer at auction which we all knew not sure who it is. It is justly him not heather locklear so I was not sure is it is it neil is heather locklear or is it Dakota Fan. Oh that's so cool. There was to go to banding well. You're right. They don't really confirm it because it could be there. locklear it could be there's no reason why would the heather locklear character but it could be her at the behest of Dakota Fancy and I have to say I did not like the movies so much that I had to watch it in like six installations because I just could not get more than a few minutes but I thought I miss them. Revealing that Neil Fox handsome English guy or Australian English yeah he might be Australian ow sure vaguely UK. It's not bad at discerning those two accent. Sometimes he is the one that bought guitars so there was like did I miss it and so Wiki pedia and they are saying that he's the one the bottom so I don't know if it was original screenplay. Here's why I always he's assumed and never questioned until this very moment that that Neil character bought them one in the very beginning he's so intrigued by them and then when molly has to sell them. It's like Oh my God. This is my dad. It's like her dad is eyeing a second death and I don't know I guess what the whole lay her parents relationship is being replaced it by these new relationships I just kind of thought that the man in her life would be like the new what she lost from parents dying. If that makes any sense that's vague and loose and that's me doing a lot of work but that's what I thought and then in the end when he is on stage and he's strumming the guitar and he says this was tim guns I think like I I acoustic guitar from Project Mega Work. No no Tom Tom Tommy gun would be such a silly name and type of gun. It's dominate also a character in Iraqi five. Let's call him Mr Gun Mr Guns Guitar Guitar and I think he says he says something like that for the audience so they know that it's this rock legends guitar and we see Molly's face light up so we wean now oh my gosh he bought at least one of those guitars and then you see all of the Qatar all the ballerina girls bring out all these guitars cars and they do a little dance with the electric guitars well Neil is singing the song that Molly's father wrote for her and also Dakota fanning as doing doing like an interpretive dance that shows how she has reform on the that shows how she has embraced being child. Her moves are just like direct influence from Mali's Sri Dancing. I'd just want to point out at the end of this. There's a standing ovation from an audience who has has no idea what just to happen. Now now play fair now in the audience. They don't have any connection to these what they are rooting for. Are there two things one this neil pop star guy. He's a no this guy that go gaga offers anything that's Popstar does. They're going to be excited about wii part two of this. This is the final dance recital. They've been watching Dakota fanning through this whole year. They all know who she is. Do they know that she's uptight. They know that she doesn't like to freestyle dance. They know she is this little girl who choreographed this whole thing by herself and was so carefree and and so fun look at her and her new playable also they know our dad just died like a week prior to expiring. Yes they do is shaving liked in the old nope. I think they hate her but here's the thing that everybody needs to understand about these ballet schools and also these private girl little communities. No this is true. You have context everyone talks. Everyone knows everything about everyone. Even if you behave badly your status might still be such that you're getting support from people so Dakota fanning she has all these mental problems and she's so mean and she so like closed off and doesn't want to do the freestyle dance. Everyone knows that it's because her mother is detached and not involved. Everyone knows that she's got tons of money and this girl is just cursed and it's not likely that she's going to have a good childhood but look at her feeling herself and having a good time and dancing around like a normal kid that that is quite a breakthrough her dad's style give it up for her every biddy Lorraine graphing the graphing right is killing doing so there's that up by that maybe a bite as like a person who is listening to the pitch of this movie the and we already have the money and why not just make this movie right now because we already have all the stars attached and there's nothing that stops obsess now but as of you're of this film was just another moment of me being like how can they need so that's not my problem with the ending my problem. I'm with the ending. Is this attempt that it makes to redeem the neal character who does not deserve it. You know like at a certain point once molly stops kind of paying attention to him he tries to get her to come back. He calls her his Muse and manipulative e at right he tries to manipulate her essentially and it feels really that feels gross right to me it does not feel like he really wants her to come back and they have this like grand gesture moment performed at the behest of a child who has also said that she does not like him and I just don't think that that part makes sense and for me in that moment I was like Oh this. This is the end up together. Well yeah and that's how the movie ends. It ends with this performance credits but it feels like they want you to think you know maybe things are going to work out between these two and you know he spent seventy five thousand dollars. I WanNa thank you guys for this analysis of this ending because because I think that every time that I saw this movie before I was so overcome with emotion I was not in a head space to question what was happening. I re watched this movie like pick once every like five or six years no joke I think that last night I watched this movie as a full grown woman for the first time and here's what I mean by that before when I would watch it I always interpreted that scene of Neil having his big redemption moment I always thought of that as being like the the beginning of something him trying like Oh let me just do this and try to win molly over and this will be the beginning of starting a normal relationship but last last night I was definitely feeling the thing that Stephen a saying which is it's gross like who is this man you suck but also like her change change right her arc up to this point has been to not need him. She stopped relying on people in general in the way that she did before including her friends. She gets her own apartment. She doesn't have to stay with Donald Phase honor. Ingrid anymore has a blooming career of making jackets jackets for various rock smart McGrath and Dave Navarro organized by and also Fisher Stevens. Yeah is weirdly in that scene there at the wake for the code of instead and molly accidentally ruined Neal's lucky jacket in just put like cookies on fire. How do he's GonNa Scientifically? I don't know how that's possible to try to put out the flames using his lucky jacket and it gets burned to hell and so she I tend to fix it changes it into a completely different gestures leopard prints. She definitely has a taste of very elderly like because even when the first time I saw her apartment I'm like grossly weird. She's supposed to be twenty twenty. They make a big point at the beginning of that movie of how old that is she yeah yeah when he's to forehead wrinkle. There's a guy at the party whose nineteen and he's like. I'm your man. I was going to kill myself actor. It was the first time I saw her apartment. It reminded me of the act. TV Show on Hulu is Oh my God yeah has a a daughter and we we why did that house. Why did that apartment 'cause let Khomeini like stuffed animals hank indulgent? It's indulgent and his lack of style or taste and I think both of these production designer is came from lakes or immature persons. It's like I'm a princess. I WANNA be a princess forever that kind of view the movie opens with narration by Dakota fanning that establishes the Fairytale Metaphor. You're talking about how there were there was a king and a queen and they died and their daughter was left in the castle and that's referring to you know molly's parents die and now she he lives so yeah. There's this sense that she never grew up stunted at this age that she was when her parents died despite being the ripe old age of twenty but this is the year she's got to grow up. She remakes jacket. She gives it back to kneel and he hates. It's it is what makes him break up where yeah he's so offended right. He's never outright said that he doesn't WanNa see anymore but but it's very clear that he doesn't and after this jacket thing he's like fuck you bitch. He doesn't say any condescending he. He's basically saying things that the Ingrid character has been saying to her which is it's like. You're a mess you don't fit with my lifestyle. You're holding me back like I have to break ties with you so that I can go be an adult and you you can go gallivant and be young forever if you want to yield trash but why was it the jacket thing that like really became the straw that broke the camel's back. He was so cold hold when he was seeing that you know he's like charismatic actor. Even the time before he became bigger Karen House but but I- the English doctor is such a lack of interest of excitement or chemistry between the two actors that it was really hard for me to see why would she be so crazy about him. I don't know there's some suggestion that like she. Does this a lot that this is a manifestation of her daddy the issue right he performs fantasy then becomes her daddy in that song performances a weird yeah I mean it is complicated because it's like she. He says to him in the beginning. Please don't sing that song. It reminds her of the night her parents died and then he gives this song new meaning supposedly in in this final dance scene so it's like this isn't about when your parents died. This is about now the moment when you became an adult and help this little girl get in touch with herself after her dad died so this is now an anthem of your I know like your cycle of grief kind of like coming to a close. There's a lot of psychological methods of flooding that that's just happening in this movie so it's like if you don't like something we're going to make you vase it at a crazy scale so if the findings character is afraid of germs we're going to take a New York subway us going to uh-huh in this journey train to get a Nathan's hot dog you have to he asked to it's the ticket in to coney island yeah and the same thing with emotions for orbiting amorphous character if you feel upset when somebody even talks about your dad. Let's just pretend that I'm your dad and sing the song to you addressing you in front of all these people looking at you so he's very upset about this jacket he breaks up with her finally and then it becomes an integral part of his pop pop star Persona he writes the song called sheets of Egyptian cotton support. I guys by the Soundtrack I love the song that line he has been like stuck in my head for a decade and I never knew why I couldn't remember what the song was and then midway through the movies. She's getting the job a sheet store and she inventions department store at that happens to sell linens okay. She mentioned that they are she to a whole. Oh like that song that I know so imagine my surprise when I find this song sheets of Egypt's in cotton is from this town girls guys varies Zeitgeist. Check it out how it's sort of like a cyborg realizing that they're not great and so at this wake mark mark McGrath and Dave Navarro both come up to molly and ask her to make clothes for them. It was the lowest point for me watching this movie of disappointment in screenwriting for some reason fisher Stevens walks up to them and says guys we gotta go and that's so his only line in the sand. I don't understand Brooks wants to as you guys and they're like really no not guard. We we want to talk to molly colleague gun here about fashion and he's like sorry guys okay while Molly keep posted and then she goes to I think F I t she goes. I think that's what they're hinton. Ed Technology New York which is downtown and this was a black character. She's interviewing her and she's like wow row with references like why don't you just go ahead and get some gigs from your designer friends and then molly calls back to the Dakota fanning line fundamentals are the building blocks of fun God so she wants to learn a fashion school and I do like that line I like do I lorraine. Oh sorry it was Baryshnikov. That's right yeah to. I'm sure you've never heard of me. She says so you have this is her big. You know evolution and then all in the service Sir of this Guy Getting Oh yeah okay the thing I was trying to say before so when I was younger and I was watching this movie I was like Oh my God that guy is devastatingly cute and that's all I was thinking about but now as an adult woman watching it I'm like what is this story. It's so fucked up. It's really weird. He meets her at her birthday and he's like no. No No. I don't WanNa date you goes home with her. They're like about to make out and he's like giving his monologue all the reasons why he's not GonNa date her. They have sex sex he stays there for so long and she's like feeling like she's being suffocated and she's like Oh my God. What is he going to leave and then when he leaves he's leaving in such a Hoffy is being so oh condescending and like you're wasting my time? I have all these gigs this week. I have worked to do like guitar strings at no point was he said thank you so much for having me over. You know I've really had a good time. He could have said that at any point he could've sat your apartments crazy. It's great. It's not my style but I really like you. You're cool haven't haven't had since I was a kid. Thanks for that. I love it. Maybe I've seen my idols guitars curious. It's so crazy that your dad is your dad and I I feel lucky to have had this connection with you. He never says that which is shitty and then he goes off and also his music is not great. She calls it out uh-huh good notes and he should have taken note because like for one thing she's been in the music industry for way longer than he has so why not just say respectfully like I appreciate the I know but won't take it or something like that and said he was like I'm not a sellout. He's not a cell that is in response to maybe you should add a chorus to your song so then the next connection that they have they go out to dinner or something and she's going through all this transformation stuff and she's excited about it and he tells her she talks too much okay so fuck that he's basically just pushing her away the entire movie until he realizes that he has monetize taking her advice. He has taken in revenue from the fact that she has influenced his life and that is the only reason as Stephen so astutely pointed out. That's the only reason why he wants to get back together with her. He also sleeps with Heather Heather locklear's character so potentially Dakota Fanning Stepdad at this point. This new watch of the movie makes me really not like that character and I can't believe I never felt like this before. For almost the entire movie is being treated the way that he should be treated which is kind of as trash and then at the and they just like it's like they don't want to completely bullet. You're gone. That's what they want to pull back a little bit and I think it makes that ending worse also there's that moment where Donald Phase is on points out molly is looking at the music video and she's so mad at him like that guy did it then and all of these islands like no no no like hey first of all like that's my movie. I produced that music video so you're going to go ahead and give me compliments now because I worked really hard producing this firstly second of all. I'm the genius behind this not him. He's an illusion everything that he is I made him professionally speaking and I appreciate it. That could've used a little bit more of that. I think would definitely needed more of that because otherwise it was like exposition exposition. What am I I don't care? What am I supposed to do with this? Is this character going to become more important. No wait. That's this was his moment to shine in moving moving on so I think maybe in this conversation Lorraine. Do you have any insight on why this movie does not connect with people the way that it connects with you okay well I. I WanNa say good work to you too because I think you both just walked me into finding something about this movie to hate which I did not expect first of all. I've never really had a full conversation about uptown girls. There's just been this private thing like I watch alone every once in a while while and I just love unabashedly and now I have a reason to really be skeptical like what the heck also as I was googling earlier I saw saw yeah. There are a lot of plot holes that people are not into in screenwriting is not stellar personally plot holes for me or not not that big a deal you know a movie connects with you. Regardless of its plot saw you know sometimes people come on the past and and I think they feel like because maybe Sasha and I don't like something as much as they do like they want to step back from how much they like this thing and I just. I hope that's not how you might feel. You'll right now because you're like for this thing as valid well listen and I'd like to give credit to the aspects of the film that worked on me sure yeah which is the relationship primary relationship with the film. I think is really strong. Yeah I agree Britney Murphy. Dakota fanning relationship works definitely and like the chemistry is crazy good. All their scenes together are just amazing but then also just the allure of the popular music that Hook that Egyptian cotton thing that like wormed its way into Stevens brain. That's not the only thing like that in that movie. There are a lot of things like that and it kind of makes you it distracts you from carrying about all the other stuff that isn't working a lot of unlikeable characters. If you don't love Brittany Murphy Fi you're not going to like this movie and I've actually I star- I could watch Brittany Murphy Sachet around in underwear as outerwear big fluffy weird curls that don't make any sense her giant eyeballs. She kind of looks like Ariel on land lowering the Little Mermaid. I think Brittany Murphy for me is a live action Disney princess so like it's just really easy for me to enjoy these adventures. She is making a lot of choices choices that don't seem necessarily directed but just like they are letting her personality kind of shine through in this character which is interesting you know I think a lot of directors probably wouldn't I think she definitely takes advantage of her moments with the increased emotionality like she's very emotional actress very expressive you know is it just in general like she's feeling feelings and it's very fun to watch her feel. The feelings yet is absurd world of the movie otherwise yeah and like all of her characters characters. She's ever played are like pop songs to me like it's just fun. It's really it's nothing that I feel like thinking deeply about it so easy but that Said said that market is just so saturated and like of all of the people that you could pick to watch like that Brittany Murphy's. There's not a lot of people's first choice so like I kind of understand why hi this whole thing would fall to the wayside. I guess also Dakota fanning's not necessarily everyone's cup of tea. Let's just say it not taught much about this is like the peak peak of Dakota fanning right really came on the scene as playing these kind of wise beyond her years characters and I I think this is maybe like the peak of that because this really is the two of them I remember parts of the trailer that are just like Dakota fanning saying something adult right yeah and she he has some lines man like I have to like pause and be like what they got a little girl and say that and there's this one thing that I caught last night when it's during the breath the sequence of like they're getting to be closer friends Dakota fanning as seen beating up another school child and Brittany Murphy Pulls Dakota fanning often. She's like what are you doing. What's gotten into you or are you mad and she's like I'm fighting her because her AU pair says that my nanny as a slot bag whore and Dakota fanning can't say it with a straight face? I've played late in back a couple of times and I'm like that's their best take. She's like laughing because she's like. I can't believe I get to say this on camera. She gives multiple people the Middle Finger Yeah Ashi does yeah. She's under appreciated in the rotten tomatoes reviews I saw people call her performance stilted and unbelievable but actually did enjoy I loved it so so I went through rotten tomatoes and kind of just picked out reviewers that I'm familiar with that like I like to read or whose opinions I find interesting and and I found a few one of them Andrew Sarah's who was kind of the almost like driving force behind what is called the Autour Tort Theory you know which is the idea that the director is the author of the film right despite the fact that hundreds of people are required to make a film. It's all the directors visions. Asians are Andrew. Sarah said though I found Mr Jacobs Direction unexpectedly imaginative and the script often incongruously subtle I couldn't get into the spirit of all the whimsey the reason being the surprising lack of charm in the to leave ridiculous agree my heart art as much as I did not like the movie I they they opposite. He cares that sure all of the nonsense surrounding their relationship. I forgave save because I couldn't wait for those connections again from Stephanie's ahead Eric. WHO's the former film critic for the L? A. Weekly she said a modern fairy tale that loads up big time on the girlie trappings but doesn't give you much in the way of plot or characters or even plain old sense okay fair enough. That's that's US you might agree more with her or before. You continue about things being nonsense. The main thing that makes us whole movie happen is that she loses her money because her money her pair parent's money i Bob just disappears like he's doing like fraud and stuff. So we all made off yes before there was a meter and this Bernie madoff got the idea and usually there's like insurance or like someone who's learned like fall back person person who will take care of the dependence of those clients you know. Usually I think if this happened in real life like let's let's independent of this whole like college admission scandal thing. Let's say view. Jade's parents disappeared and all their money to to she'd be okay. There'd be some money somewhere for her. Absolutely there are other relatives whatever but in this story we had to buy that there were no other options molly was out on her but she had to get her own job Bob and make it work well another example of laser screenwriting because molly gone ask at the Office of the lawyer who brings the bad news she says so so is there an insurance and he's like nope no insurance so that's it. I guess we're we're just believe it and move on the covered that you won't see a dime dime of that money for a very long time and so that's it yeah we never deal with it again and that's crazy so I agree with this rotten tomatoes reviewer the short this is from Josh Larsen who's one of the hosts of the pockets film spotting which big film podcast this one's Weird Brittany Murphy once again flashing come hither lips hair legs and everything else when her dark eyes would do just fine and take some plastic surgery before this maybe but I guess you saying that she's I. I don't know like trying to do too much when she could just rely on her is island well yeah. He is being gross like there's no reason for him to like sorry to put you on blast Josh realizing but yeah you failed rethink that some kind of nagging mechanism to he's doing wrong is beat her right and make her do more come hither lips in more of her films too bad. Her husband killed her so was it black mold or or whether mother well I guess the LAPD is he's just GonNa have to stop refusing to reopen the case and investigators in the coroner's office are GonNa have to get in there zoom the body check those medals that were found in her hair what's going on. This is really intense. GRANDPA gas now right so the last critic who I found round tomatoes who I know or more online on him personally he's dead but also the only one that I'm familiar with that. I liked who gave this a positive review Roger Ebert and dropped that bomb Roger Ebert gave us three out of four stars so it starts this. The theory is that Britney Murphy is trying to channel Marilyn Monroe but as I watched uptown girls another name came to mind Lucille Ball Murphy has a kind of divine ineptitude that moves beyond Maryland's helplessness and Lucy's he's busy love ability. She's like a magnet for whoops moments. I am really glad that he picked up on this because it is very lucielle ball the cookies on fire the pig bath even when she's leaving that fit office her like big portfolio was like knocking down like art and stuff like there are so much it's really defunding. He goes on to talk about the independent spirit awards that were like the year before this where she was presenting an award and she just couldn't get through it like she kept announcing the wrong people as the winners and things like that and he talks about how to him it almost seemed intentional and even if it wasn't that she has that quality and want to lay out a spectrum for you guys of women who are in these like whoops or silly moments that make people go what's going on from unintentional national to intentional so unintentional being Jessica Simpson to intentional being amy sedaris feel like Amy sedaris is very in control of what she's doing and it's it's all for or jail jail the Louis Dry. Oh yeah pulled in that category to choose our friends that we call our jail. I feel like Brittany. Murphy is right smack in the middle of those things. I don't think that she is like really a writer in the sense that she can sort of anticipate these moments coming where she's like creating them but I think she finds herself in them and she knows how to gracefully make them work and it's so charming and it's so fun. There's a lot of grace right. I think it's time now for us to kind of give our final impressions so Sasha. If you WANNA talk a little bit about uptown girls give it rating and then tell us what you think Britney Murphy so I'm trying to think like what would be the movie of that sort that is high up on that scale because I'm not really a big Rom com person but is this a ROM com. I mean if we just take like a Bill Murray movie. That's works works groundhog day yeah back then. I'm afraid to say this would be a two for me. I would not have been called. The plot holes the issues that I was having. I was very confused. When Neil was staying over at Molly's place place at one point she want him to leave and then immediately would cut to the scene where she really wanted him to stay and I don't know if they were trying to establish sort of her like a borderline real line personality but I don't think that's what they were doing? I think it was just a portraying. A woman who is quote unquote irrational flighty talks too much. There's just things that would like elderly middle aged man would think of a woman portrayed in the comedy film that I felt like there was just a lot of that I was presented with that. I just kept pushing back against that and so despite really Liking Dakota fanning I just could not enjoy the movie and then I love the character fannies plan ric the person that old little like like manned with straight overlooked betty white times there danny the veto Stephen. I think a lot of what you said rings true. I would be more generous to the film. Someone has acidy well. I think we know someone who's going to be very generous to but I would place it more than five neutral yeah because I do really like Brittany Murphy and Dakota Fanning both in this movie and that goes a long way for me and also this movie you know could be written off as like a very simple movie movie. It is trying for a lot of emotions and things that are hard to articulate which most comedies are definitely not round. Comes are going going to avoid you know but I do think the pacing is not great again. I've already gone into in depth on. Don't like the ending and what you're saying about about how this movie is kind of. Being projected through the eye of a middle aged man makes me wonder you know like what would like. Nora Ephron has done with this like what could a woman with like some of these experiences have done with this movie as far as Brittany Murphy goes yeah I think she was a really wonderful talent with such a unique energy and she always brought an interesting angle to the parts that choose in and yeah. It's very sad that you know something happened to her and we will not investigate it in this we cannot. Land will not allow it does not fall under our purview. Do you understand and like after she died her mom and her then husband started a memorial fund with money that they were supposed to give it was chair charity money there were supposed to give to fund art students like kids were pursuing acting theatre whatever and they never officially registered it with the government so it was found out to be a fraud awed and then they said Oh well we were just overcome with grief after the passing of Brittany Murphy so we couldn't bring ourselves to submit all the paperwork the sad arsenic didn't he also got exactly five months after she did same exact cause of death guys. I have so many questions. There is foul play detective after the Lorraine. How `bout can you rate uptown girls? Well the molly gun in me. You're saying seven eight nine on the scale of Rom coms comedies in general. That's the fun indulgent part of me. That's a child forever as like this we we gave me everything I want. So why what I ask for more the critic writer thoughtful adult registered voter Lorraine degraffenreid would I'd say like six point five because it's missing a lot if in quite a bit I think you much like the characters in this movie would do a disservice service to yourself to not embrace. Both of those thank you I would love like a rebooted. Can we do another one. Can we do have another go at it. What if there's some kind of moment where air we see Neil soul-searching or or being rejected by another woman or we see a meeting with an executive or board there legged or being murdered suffocating from black mold? Yes what if every scene had donald phase on it it just imagine the possibilities for Redo on this. I love this movie out washing a million times after I was done watching it last night. I was like I would watch this again right now. Okay I'm done. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for being here. Is there anything you'd like to plant for. Sure sure shirt everybody. 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BONUS: The Smush Room - Brittany Murphy & Ashton Kutcher

Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?

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BONUS: The Smush Room - Brittany Murphy & Ashton Kutcher

"Yeah. Boy, Nacho experts. I have got a treats for you today. So as you know, we plowed right through to season for after season three instead of taking our usual long break for production and mental hygiene, or whatever, but you guys have been so great as an audience that it's one hundred percent worth it to not take this break, your the support has been unreal. But as you know, that means we have to take weeks off from time to time and this month instead of just leaving you hanging for a few weeks. I decided that you might be interested in hearing some of the episodes of the smush room, a podcast hosted by my dear friend, Choi Mckee makida that I produce basically it's a show about celebrity relationships. It's a deep dive into the archives of Hollywood's penis in vagina antics Schori recently, wrapped up a three part series on Brittany, Murph. You who if y'all know I love her. If you heard the Brittany Murphy story episode with winter Mitchell obsessed one of my faves. I'm going to be sharing full episodes. Normally, we just give half episodes on IT and the full episode on the emotion Bergonzi goes patriot. But we're giving you mother maze. Sleep with podcast listeners full episodes of two of the episodes that I did with him about Brittany, Murphy Brittany, Murphy and Ashton Kutcher. And then Simon mon- Jack in Brittany, of course, as the finale, there's also the first episode about Britney Eminem that's on this mushroom over on his page on itunes, but or apple podcasts, whatever, but we're going to be running. I we're gonna start with Brittany and Ashton. Then lastly, Simon and sandwiched between these two weeks. There will be a new episode of mother maisy with gas. Also Choi about the blinkering. Did you know that lifetime made a shitty version of the blinkering a couple of years before so few Coppola? Iconic version came out. It's true. It's so shitty. And there was no better rather. There was no choice for me to do this with anyone. But try mckie because he knows everything. So to review just because I know that was a lot this week. You're going to get this mushroom which way Mickey about Brittany Murphy and Ashton next Sunday, you're going to hear a regular mother maisy but podcast episode about the blinkering also which ROY and then the following week. You're gonna get another full episode of this mushroom about Britney and Simon module. That's right. I'm giving you three whole weeks with one of the most lovable and pop culture knowledgeable angel humans that I have ever met. You're welcome. Okay. And then we're going to be back to regular programming me of guess like Frankie Greek Ted Travelstead, Ronnie Cairns going to be back. What am I girl friends? Chris fair is gonna come on lot agree people, hopefully, less breaks. But we gotta Bank some stuff, and I think. This is a really fun idea for us. I know if a lot of you, you might not love pop culture as much as I do when it comes to more tabloid magazine stuff. Maybe you're more of a lifetime person. That's fine. You can just skip this week and then two weeks from now and come back for just the regular mother Macy podcast episode in the middle there. But you know, anyway, before I let you go. If you sign up for the patriots here my episode, an Amish murder with my friend, max Wyeth, thank you. You really are a super supporter of the show. And I appreciate that. Also, I have a teacher friend of mine he's going to be coming on in about a month. So I wanna know from you guys. I know probably a lot of you are teachers out there or you just have an obsessive knowledge of the lifetime catalog. What are some of the craziest school movies on lifetime that teachers students crazy students that take, you know, just bad bad things that happen in schools? Because I want to take advantage of having a fund teacher in my life and get her opinion on how these things would really be handled. How plausible they are it's cetera. If you're a teacher, and there's ever been a movie that horrified you particular, please hit us up on Twitter at M S, W P. We also have the Facebook group eight inches uncut search for the number eight and then inches and then uncut in all say mother may asleep, a podcast Facebook group or a mother may sleep with Facebook group or something that's a great community in Nicole monitors pretty closely. I am off a Facebook because it terrifies me. And you're not gonna get fucking Jack shit from me Mark soccer, Greg year loser. Not a fan, and yeah, not a fan. Also, you guys sorry to not to be. I'm supposed to like finishes up. But I know Jennifer, Lawrence and Ottoman. They are doing a lifetime movie about Elizabeth homes. The woman who did like the stair knows thing. That woman who basically like ripped up Silicon Valley by saying that she could do all these crazy tests from a drop of blood. If you don't know what I'm talking about check out the book, bad blood or just like YouTube, some interviews because it's fascinating shed. But I really want lifetime to make a movie about that. And I'm trying to figure out like whom I dream casting would be for. I wanna say like Sarah Paulson is not the right age. And I don't think she would do lifetime. But like I feel like she could do an amazing Lisbeth home. So if you guys like kind of thoughts about that. Maybe we can date daydream together a little bit. All right. Thanks, guys. I know that this is different. But yeah, figured this wouldn't hurt. We're gonna give it a shot wouldn't hurt me anywhere else. Speak for myself. Enjoy the show or don't really care. I love it. And we'll be back. You know? We'll be back next. Week and then in two weeks after that. All right, bye, guys. Guys. Welcome to episode seventy nine of this mushroom, the deep dive on the well known more importantly, not so well known because of your favorite reality. Tv stars makida house going today's guests. I mean, truly needs no introduction. But like this has been such a long time coming you guys malls. Is my guest today. My godmother. Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm great. I'm great. We talked a little bit beforehand. We're both are having a little bit of a sleepy day. Do you tell people when you re record of fuck ya? I'm very transparent. So I guess today. This is actually like I'm like living for the story yesterday. He got I was so heartbreaking. I. I felt so sad. Okay. Sorry. I wanted to cry. No, I like we were recording. And I have this fucking Himalayan salt lamp that I was insistent on getting from Amazon, and I started on my computer desk and yesterday I got up to go pee because we took a break. And I dropped the lamp on my computer, and it just started over and for a minute. I thought my computer was fully broken because it was like over and over. But well, we just lost all of our audio. And you know, this happened before it happened with me and Brennan Dorado, and it ended up being much better episode that people really lights a lot. So I don't know. I have high hopes I will say I do think it's for oddly enough like it is for the best when it happens. It always is we've only lost like a couple Assode on the history of all of these podcasts have done, and it is a blow right away. It's. Ow. But when you like either rerecord or decide not to move forward with it at all sometimes you realize in the long run that that was for a good reason like that guest point having fucking scandal or whatever. God you're looking at me like maybe that Himalayan salt lamb was bringing some sort of negative. That's not the purpose of it. Right into your life, and it had to fucking go. The ghost of Brittany Murphy took dot salt. I always I mean like, I honestly do this for nine hours. But I was bad for the person. I'm talking to Rome. Like oh. By the way, the hour that you set aside for me, I'm gonna have to take another one for you. Because I fucked up I feel bad. You don't even talk to you all day any day. I mean, you know, I have to go to Patsy Ramsey's been haunting me so I've had lots of little audio hiccups over the year identified your ghost and to move on. It's move on. I gotta let it go. Got a free it and just release it into the world. So Molly night today, you're talking about very iconic couple, and I one of the things that I mentioned to yesterday was that unite throughout the years of talked about a lot of really icon couples. We've kind of been doing this thing in some form or another for a really long time. And that's how this podcast was even sort of born was like when we were doing some episodes of EDP, or whatever I really like got into the site who's dated who and you, and I would just go back and forth all day of being like, oh my God. Look good. So and so's page. Oh my God. And you realize I mean Hollywood is a very small incestuous little town. We can go over some of the people that Ashton Britney dated over the years too. It's sped. It's it's it's unreal. So we can I ask you a question. I've only listened to part of the Britney Eminem stuff. So I don't wanna step on your toes by making rehash anything. So like, obviously, you know, the guest in let you like leader. If I start to repeat something that like you've kind of driven into the ground or whatever sent me. No all shut up, you're fine. This is like the audience of this podcast is so used to driving things I'll be dead horse until it's much. So it's it's part of the brand. And it's fine. Like, people don't really mind, especially Brittany Murphy, by the way, we're talking today about Brittany Murphy Ashton Kutcher, if you haven't picked up. The title of this fucking gas. Molly I decided. Mentioned in the episode that I wanted to do I felt like it was really disrespectful to talk about Brittany Murphy. And like really the about us. So I figured we could do a three part little thing here. And yeah, I had all sorts Tian Simon montoc to an honestly, that's he is an incredibly huge blind spot for me. And I know that you did the Brittany Murphy moving forward castes like, yeah. I I don't really know a lot about him. So this is going to be when we do that. It's going to be a really big like don't learn a lot do you want broad strokes? Or do you want me to like just like not say anything about Simon much? Today. Yeah. Let's say this because I'm so uninformed like I don't wanna like I wanna like have my shit together. Can I just see this pertaining to this to this particular relationship showing Simon? The longest that she's been in Hollywood. So she definitely knew him while she was with Ashton, but did not know of him as a romantic interest. So I should say that like when she needs Ashton Simon is already sort of started to latch onto her in like the thing that I I really like about going from this one to to sign it as like this is such a a light of breezy. This relationship is like Inouye dark if anything it was more of like a publicity thing that turned into a relationship. You know, it's a pallet cleanser, this is a nice little we I feel like I hit something Esther die when I realized sort of how I think this love affair really got started. And I wanna make sure that I remember at a sort of like jump in there with my take on that. When we when we get to it because I think I figured something out about Brittany, Murphy and Ashton Kutcher, how this all sort of happened. So a let you like. Start. Go ahead. No, you're also I like left you hanging yesterday with dick thing there's like Ashton could dick as a part of this like. Yesterday has Troy or you playing any of the first part, or are we are we picking up from where we left off. Nobody's in Las little all day. I said I randomly asked you. I was like dude, I feel like, you know, I feel like Ashton could I can't really get a read on his dick like I feel like he has be. But it's like, but it doesn't. But it's not be actually it's a it's a lesser shade event. That means that he probably has a low key medium to to smaller size peanuts. In may be very long NADA girth. I'm not sensing gerbers. The irony is the entire the left part of my notes. The entire section is a scandal about his dick in in reference. Brittany Murphy like it's like a whole thing that she had to handle. Scandal. Oh, I like. She said on purpose. Yeah. I love the word scandal is that or even a work. They save on drag racing times. Oh, I was like, oh, I was that was a brilliant little slip of the tongue Chari keep going. But no, it's like it's just ironic like I literally have an entire section of notes about Ashton's dick and the alleged. There's a lot of scandal surrounding it. But we all go ahead and introduce the episode, and we can go ahead and get started talking about Brit. So Brittany national started dating in Tober of two thousand and two they separated in April of three and this again was one of those released short not really like super dramatic. Not wasn't like a ton of crazy shit happening. But it was impactful and the sense that the media covered this relationship really really heavily. They met on the set of just married in February of two thousand and two and Ashton has been pretty open about the fact that after they broke up the really did you remain in contact with each other at all they basically didn't speak until two months before she died. And also there is a rumor that they were engaged, and that was like the number one thing that people acquaint to the lifetime movie being incorrect was that like, you know, they weren't really engage, and it was a publicity stunt for the film, and the director came out and was very open about it. But it wasn't real. In the lifetime movie. They didn't say she was engaged. They address that the pup Razzi was like on their dick about it. Rings off set like they would just wear the rings offset, which I think was a little bit of a publicity thing. But also they were kinda secretly dating a little bit. So I don't I don't think that the movies is that they're engaged. She actually like actively denies it. Two big pop rats eight outside of what I think is the place for they record dancing with the stars. That's a location that use the internet made. It seem like it was like the top twenty things. Lifetime movie got completely long number one. The gauge they made it seem like it was like this big find that list right now could I mean, there's a million of them. It's ridiculous. But A B I figured so we can kinda start with Brittany around this two thousand to Mark where like in the previous episode where I left off like Britney did kind of have this this really big head to toe like literally head to toe makeover where she got really thin, and she bleached her hair and capture teeth and she had. Some face work done, and it wouldn't even call it a makeover. If that's if that's okay to say like, I think that she it's like if being severely anorexic in like having a little bit of an identity crisis. Is that is a makeover. Ben, I guess, that's you know, one thing. But I like, you know, it was very sad for me as a old school fan of hers to watch to see this quote unquote, glow up. It was very it was bad. It was taking a lot of way from the heart of what we loved about her as an actress, let me first before we even really get into ask you because you've mentioned something yesterday that I wanted you to kind of get into again. But like, what is your journey with Brittany Murphy winded you like become a fan of hers? Well, she's one of my favorite actresses. If I'm being totally real. I think she I said to yesterday I feel like she if she hadn't had this identity crisis source so to speak where she felt like she needed to be like a. Lead female on new type character a rom com, which is very fashionable type of celebrity at the time. Obviously it still is. But she reminds me of someone like Taryn manning who has a really long career of being, you know, not necessarily what you would consider like Hollywood average standard of beauty rather very uniquely beautiful and really really great at sort of like tearing apart a character like getting in there and tearing it apart in I really, you know, I was not old enough to see clues in theater, if anything trailer mainly think that it would be something that I wouldn't like 'cause I was always like a little comedy snob. And I was like, wow this really low brow. And I went to a birthday party where we one of the things we did was watched clueless. Swam in the pool we ate hot dogs when we watch clueless. Oh, boy, we had Chinese food. I remember because the the host of. The party was allergic to MSG memo's. The first time I found out about MS. Same-day? I watched the greatest movie of all time clueless, which is like, obviously, very formative movie. I think just as being young girl. But also as a writer like that was that was one of those movies screen was one of those movies for me that changed the way that I am change standard, right? After we watched it. I could tell my mom could tell by the way, I talked about it that it meant something to me. And she was also very like, you know, I worked since I was twelve all of like any my mom is very slim with like extra treats in spending money because he has single mom, but she took me to Costco. And she bought me the clueless VHS. And I watched it, and I say this is not an exaggeration. Like, they're my mother will say this from the day that I got that the age s up until about two years later. I watched that movie every single day. I would watch it after school every day while I did my homework, and then it would you know, the VA just would rewind itself in start over again. And I would watch it almost two times a day every single day for two years. And it was just it was like it was just did something for me. It was like so many amazing. Explosive new performances, and you know, obviously, as you know, sort of like a outsider myself in what ways growing up being a unique person. I guess growing up compared to my classmates, I definitely related to tie. When I thought that her, you know, I was so into her journey in how disappointing it what relatable with with that. Character were someone just kind of becomes a little bit of a monster hijacks your life. And I also just like remember performance being so funny. So I'd conic your virgin can't drive like the delivery her delivery in that movies. Unreal. And of course, she has uniform singing voice that we even just oh my God piece of that mentos jingle gall Gervis is really good. The hill of not even kidding. I hope we get to hear more of that. You know? I remember that moment, you should maybe include it because it's literally five seconds of her saying, but it's when you were little did you rewind that a lot because I remember like I would we wind it and sing with her because he's on. It's so good. Yes. Yeah. Oh completely. I would I would rewind that all the time. There were certain things that I in that movie that I always reminded like her. Her having sort of meltdown after the Christian bale movie fest schools in she's like, it's my hips. Isn't it? So many lines. She does better is unreal in. Yes. So she really captivated me with that. And then, you know, since then it was the only other young actor that really got me like that was like a young Damon in the rainmaker which came out right before about hunting in. I was like whoever that man is satisfied actor, I'm gonna know for the rest of my life. Like, I'm out their work and same thing. Brittany Murphy, I sought out her work. You know, when she gets sort of more into the rom com base. I do think that just married was probably one of her first movies that I didn't see. But yet you would say the. Yeah, this this phase is like not for me. Yeah. I mean, like Britney Murphy has that thing. I don't think that I mentioned this last week. But Brittany Murphy has quality about her that is my favorite thing in a comedic meal. Actress like a Billig mostly in for me. It's like, it's. Queens. It's like sitting the I love about like, Maryland, she's being funny or like Diane Keaton, right like a goal deed. Like the thing about Britney is that she gets lost in a character. But you're also always, hyper where Brittany Murphy. And right. Those like Britney nuances that you love you look for in. They come in you are. So like, you're like literally rewarded with them? They're like treats. Yeah. But somehow you're still able to get lost in her character every time even though you're always aware that it's her, and I think something about like just like 'cause she's fantastic comedic actress. But I think that that's informed by the fact that overall she's just a fantastic actress. Yeah. She's like almost like a Johnny Depp quality to her in that way, where it's you could see her play the whole range and then on top of that leg. You know? Brittany Murphy that we know in interviews and everything like that. Like, all honest with you. I'd be surprised if she understood all of the jokes that she was saying in clueless like the double meaning in everything. And so it's like in. I've heard Debra messing is a lot like that too. Where it's like she doesn't have like a super advanced since of humor. But she's able to just take that on do something with it and become a, and I think that she had that extra actor in all of her roles, but I do my theory that I started yesterday's I think it's very X factor that sort of got this Ashton Britney relationship going in the first place. Unlike you'll really something about this specific time period that guy wrote on my notes that lake, you know, even though she and her mind felt like she had come to this point in her career. But she was like the name above the title. She was the star. And she finally made it in her mind that was like she it was almost like she was being rewarded for having this head to toe like. Juvenile of her entire like Seoul. When really like people. Didn't it wasn't like she wasn't really rewarded. But by the public by for doing that if anything she was beat up, and it set forth this whole like, you know, period of just horrible horrible press. And you know, reactions to it. I think I I mean, I can't imagine that that's what she was expecting. What would happen because I feel like you can tell that by her responses when people would ask her like, you know, are you eating are you ereck sake? Do you have a drug problem? There's rumors that you have ability do and her response was always like some blanket statement like, oh, it's I've lost baby weight people grow up. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? It's like, I don't think that she ever expected that the world would turn on her for doing this to herself. But like the reason she was doing it. We're so transparent. It was hard to watch. Yeah. I think if she really got poisoned, I think that she was very sensitive girl. I really believe that in, you know, this is a really difficult. This is a really difficult business for everyone in light. I think that like part of the unfortunate part of same as that. You can't get rid of the famous part ran it. It looks like I mean, it just seems like that just I think that that really destroyed her, you know. Snow for sure I think. Yeah. The fame part is like what people don't realize that. They also have to kind of. Ball and chain around you. That's like the actual worst part of it. The thing is is that like looking back retrospectively a lot of the rumors about her or really baseless and meet you were, you know, a lot of them were coming from the inside. Of course dot always happens where you know, there's line items or will love, but the blind items really were what took her down ran. They were I just feel. I just feel like I is a blind item fan will stated that support where I start to wonder if they're very cruel because you know. I don't know. I just feel so I feel like this girl really really got the bad end of the stick in a way that I don't necessarily feel about everyone. Like, I feel like a Lindsey Lowe hand as much as they feel like she had a lot of inappropriate attention on her as a young girl. I understand why she likes she threw up. The you know the stakes in front of the pit bulls. Oh, pay. But like Britney Murphy really didn't do anything except Deavere very good at her job and more high profile and people need that's never enough for people like unless it's an Hathaway and like even her people's day. It's never enough to hear about someone's personal life yet. And I think the really big difference between somebody like Britney Murphy aside from what you just said that she actually literally never really did anything except from like just date buys and do her job incomes. Just like hang out under the radar for the most part. There is like a there's feel like there's a. Really big difference between their girls like Britney Murphy were for some reason it becomes. Thown to want to try and take them down. Like, she's one of those girls that was celebrated for a long time. And then something changes in the public where it's like art knowledge with her. Let's. Less. Now, there was a whole period where that was just a trend where it was like just kind of blindly closing her eyes and picking a random girl to just fucking at risk apar- for no reason that period of like, you know, you could say both ways like one it was the kits in where it was like that was exactly this time. And you could say, you know, this this was happening to all celebrities. But also was you only sort of went to those stores if he wanted to be seen, and so she was doing a little bit of that. Like wanting to be out there in the magazines, but eventually that turns into the wrong reasons, not so much anymore. Like, you see the like a Ben Affleck now lake Ben Affleck really kind of walked himself into this spring. There was never like video of her leaving club blacked out. Never had words with the pop Rossi. Like there was never like a thing that she did that I can think of. Not that would warrant, you know, years of just relentless like just feel like with girls like her to think, this is also thing that happened like that happen with Britney Spears something that I compared her lot yesterday in and a cold. I think it almost takes a while. Because these are people who are so used to being talked about that it takes them a minute to read the temperature in the room and be like, oh, this isn't just like a little bit of bad press. Like the world is actually kind of turning on me feel like it takes them a minute. Even keep up with her to catch up with the current of like what their name has become doing. I mean, like we're aware of it way before they are. Of course, of course, like, it's I think it's very difficult in Seve of your own fame. And that's why you know that you hear that anecdote over and over again, and sometimes you can tell that the person's sort of saying that Xena supposed to and they're like era get monsters, but. It's always moment of leg. One was the first time ridge like song on the radio Yulia because that all of a sudden that is very tangible. The reason why they always use this device in lifetime movies is they do show a mall tour, and they show like, you know, basically people being mobbed at an event like they did that in the tuna movie in full house movie that is like what is the it is does exactly how for where a person realizes they're famous put along all are in front of them. But yeah, I don't think she ever had that really, you know, that was never we never had. We, you know, I'm sure she it would be a big deal if she waved her hand on a float at the things giving braid or whatever I don't think that she ever really had this moment of like, oh my God. It's Britney murky shut the house down. Unlike she also run in my notes, like, you know, it was a long time before Brittany actually just sort of like head on addressed her drug issues. I mean, she never really really copped to it. But like for the most part, she would always say that it was she'd never been around drugs, you'd never seen them. I mean, she would fully retreat. Not even like, not even Dipper towing. Lindsey used to say like I've seen people doing it. And I you know, what makes me sick. Or I tried it once she was even copping to trying it and she said in two thousand one interview that she did with the rap dot com. This interviewer who I thought he was being funny. He asked her she'd ever tried meth in. This is just like a really good example of the press of turning on her because that's insane Doric during the Jordache junkie era, which we can get more into that in a little bit. But like this, you know, there was a lot of talk around. Brittany Murphy drugs like odds. So like, I I'm assuming that that's where this question came from. You know as inappropriate as it is. There is a for some reason she had drugs attached to her name. Oh, yeah. In everybody wanted to be the one like the exclusive that finally got the quote where she admits to doing something. But he said it was an interview about sidewalks in New York or something he said, I asked her about other projects when she mentioned spun columnists Michael Adams recalled for the website. I asked her as a joke, if she had taken meth to research for the role, she laughed, and she laughed and said, even if I wanted to couldn't take any drugs ever because I've had a heart condition since I was a little girl, which is like actually sat for like a million different reasons. But it just kinda shows like that was her that was her showing up to a press junket that was her showing to a red carpet like those were questions. Hey, Britney Murphy, tried meth. And I think that you know, I was watching David Letterman or that Jay Leno interview yesterday. And I also watched a Letterman one, and like, you know, I'll be honest even say that like growing up I would last at sort of the way that the host would sort of like alienate, the celebrity the make them seem like the weirdo lake shore. But watching it now is in adults, especially to look back on some of the people that are no longer with us or their life has gone terribly wrong. It's really set. It's really really important to me to watch. How they were framed by this person in Brittany was very gig lead. I don't think she was meant for the talks show circuit at all. I don't think that that was her. I don't, you know, similar like Debra messing typers in which I'm not comparing them all at act as at all actresses. But like, you know, you're not gonna see tie from clueless in this interview because that's not how she is. She's a totally different person. And I don't think that she was comfortable doing it. When someone is gig Lee or someone does have like unique anecdotes or you can tell in real life. Probably this person talks to their mom, and like to other people, you know, she she did seem out of it a little bit. But I don't think she was. I think that she I think you know, who else does it. Oh, I was noticing, you know, Jenna marbles from the internet, right? Okay. Like if you ever see her and someone else's video of her and her boyfriend, she becomes like steel, she becomes like really like it's very difficult to penetrator. She's not as easy to laugh. She's very straightforward. And it's jarring see because she's so sweet in loving giggly in her own videos, and I don't think that she's someone that she just didn't come across the same in an interview, she didn't seem like the girl from the movie, you know, I think that that was like her big. Curse with the drug thing. Besides the insane weight loss. She does always been a little bit more like a Rattigan. Silly in interviews not necessarily because of drugs or something just personality rape. Yeah. You're right mean, some people just don't lend themselves to being interviewed people some people's good. A and it's funny because there's some people who need to be interviewed all the time like surgical Parker's Lee bad of being interviewed. She's just like comically terrible at interviews. Not yet. 'cause she's odd. She's off. She's a she's a she's an odd person. And she talks in a way that lends itself to like a conversation while you're like laying in bed and like having girl time, but like on a chair on like a talk show where you have five minutes to plug a movie. She just can't is she's in Canada doesn't have it. And it's it's it's funny because I have long felt that like the television talk show format with the way that they interview celebrities I feel like you could fill that time. Was so much more interesting stuff in don't worry people are still going to see movies. I have never before eight. Again, I hate to repeat myself with people of heard this. I've never walked away from a TV interview embed like outside of like wanting listen persons music because I heard it on T R L. I have never heard a movie star talking on her show in God, I need to see their movie mill notes. Y that supposedly there to plug their movie. But it just it's like, it's so awkward embarrassing. This thread is going around today on Twitter. I don't know what you saw it. But it's like all journalists sort of talking about the worst QNA question. They've ever heard asked by either another journalist were audience cue in a mortifying. It's like absolutely mortifying in. It's another thing. That makes me wonder why do they have to do this? Why does everyone to drag their Ashdown Comecon to like to promote the movie that everyone's gonna fuck and see anyway because it's like the big summer popcorn movie. Like, if they did all indie movies that might be interesting. Then you're gonna meet some cool people like when they would have harmony Karinna on back in the day, you know, but it's it's a very antiquated and in uncomfortable for me to watch viewer end to the other side of it. Like, let's look at someone who's supposedly very good at these. Interviews. Jennifer Lawrence like now, our entire half of our country is like so fucking over her. Like, I I mean, I don't jump to see Jennifer Lawrence movie anymore. There was a long time where I was like what like a Brittany Murphy where I was like, wow. I gotta show up in this chick is in. She's great. And now, I just can't she's an eye roll. When I see her I feel each new years off, you know, but that's because she's been going on Jimmy Fallon and doing like, you know, playing fucking musical chairs shit for owed for years. It's like that's the thing. That drives me crazy is like it's like we are still trying to push this antiquated format of late night television. And also daytime talk shows in general, but then we're trying to incorporate these viral moments because Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon have a day without having some fucking viral video of Miley Cyrus, doing spit takes or whatever. Yeah. I always think the best most viral moments are like when leg Trevor Noah broke the other night and just wasn't reading. The teleprompter. Yes. Those are great moments to me, and I just feel like at this point from appear perspective. It's a lose lose situation. Like, we probably wouldn't have been sick of Jennifer, Lawrence earthy, probably wouldn't have been bullied your grave, like it's just a it's just like another thing that sort of supports that whole conversation. And then on top of that like, you know, the the hosts like who are all doing their job. And in usually pretty like, you know, whatever they're they're good at their job. And by the way, I think the other thing too is fakeness. I don't think Brittany Murphy had fakeness in her agree. So late showing up in having unnatural conversation was already sort of a hard thing for. But it seems like a lose lose to me for both the for for everyone. Because like these these hosts will sit there they'll dog on the paparazzi the paparazzi keep getting out. Brought Z dog. You're the pop rod for real like, you're basically, you're just a pup poverty person news like funny and like good on camera. But like you also are doing the same. You're creating more of that. When you pick these people apart, you know in the really sad thing to kind of piggyback off what you're saying. Is that Brittany Murphy did inevitably become a liability to the studios because of the rumors surrounding her and the talk around her name, and all of these things that at one time, we loved about her that she had this like sort of Corky weird bubbly personality in her laugh, and you know, all the shoes ditsy and flighty funny. Those all became reasons for the press to kind of come after her and question her civility, which made her a wreck lose. And again, it's like you said it's because before every is true. Out on these interviews and their force. Do these stupid things and talk about all this bullshit? And it's it's sad. It's sad. That like like, you said earlier, she'd never really dating thing like she wasn't doing anything different than what she was doing before going on talk show and giggling, you know, what I mean a couple years before it worked and now it's like, oh, she's giggling because he's high shit, right? And like, yeah. That the blind item culture for those of you guys like weren't really cause. I still have people ask me a lot. If I what line nine hymns are which is shocking to me. But basically blind items are Adams of celebrity gossip that are too juicy in by that like illegal because they are crazy claims and people usually don't dispute them because if they were to it would come out and discovery if they were lying or not right row. She was really tagged with this with this thing. Jordache junkie all up some of those blinds while we're talking, but just like like, she was considered to have gone under tune aims at one point which Ted Casablanca has guy who ran the blind items that e he never did that. So people would always. So a lot of stuff got associated with her. That wasn't true at all. It was also incredibly widely read by people in the inner taint industry. I didn't know anyone who didn't read his column. Metaxas blankets like as kind of fallen off the face of the earth or the other day. Any has like six hundred followers or something? Very like, I don't know where he went s- limited. Like, even here you say his name brings back a lot of memories. But it's like I haven't heard that name in so many years while meet you wonder what the fuck happens. You know, like, I really makes me wonder what happened, but you're strung key. Now, this is so thinly-veiled. She was the spokesperson for Jordache at the time in net deal was huge for her. It was like a huge campaign. They were bringing back Jordache, Carol. Carol Rodwell was the fit model for. Basically lake Jordache junkie was because this person was allegedly a heroin addict in right away. Like, it was so thinly veiled like. Yup. That in and of itself felt illegal to me people started to take it as fact in it was very heavily circulated thing. Like to this day. People talk about toothy tile, who is widely to believe widely believed to be J John Hall in. Yeah. I I just I think that the blind item culture is much. I love blind items. This really really I mean peace you fired over these rumors, and like it was such a different time. Because when a blind item came out, it was like, I mean now when blind item comes out it takes three or four minutes for the internet have figured it out based on, you know, one minute of research like in the early two thousands of blind item come out it was different. Yeah. Is down. We slower it was like a slow burn. Now. It's like that shit goes up and flames in one minute. You don't I mean, it's like it takes no time for everybody's a every everybody does like historical booking pop culture research now from their phones is just different. Yeah. Yeah. It's it was very it's it's hard to lake describe that time to anyone who wasn't living it because the stale of it. I mean because it was so bad at this time. It's changed the way that we interact with media that we handle media like then it wasn't illegal to show up on the lawn of a celebrities kids school, and you know, in that stuff is more the, you know, the press release shies away from it. They like have a level of respect now because certain amount of intrusion is very declassify day class. I, but like if you'll remember like Britney Spears, they publish that photo of her coming out of a car with a period blood all over her underwear, and they would publish like a picture of Miley Cyrus is leg looking like smushed. And they'd be like, oh, my God is the Miley crotch shot at first of all she's underage at the time. And Secondly, big no, it's a piece of. Fucking leg. Folded lakes. You know that in like, I mean, even just like the car chase era of running stub off the road. Like, I remember reading in when I did the Pam and Tommy Lee episode when Pam had her first. I wanna say it was a miscarriage that was her first miscarriage. The pop Razzi were trying to hit her ambulance off the road. I mean, it's just like it's hard for people or too young to live during the till like really like have been able to pick up a magazine at a, you know, a ga- gas as I read it like, I mean, these people were actual pieces of meat like, we did not view them as human beings at all. No, I knew like we treated our most favorite celebrities the way that you know, what's so funny. I was thinking about this the other day like when when the way that the veterans rules cast like fights back with with people online unle g wonder stood that like snooky walked. So you could fly. What? Oh my God. Ruthlessly on very years. Like, literally people be like, I don't know someone ugly like fucking snooky like that was like okay to say back. Then like, what's the worst thing? People are saying about people on Vanderberg Nali critiquing something they actually did or choosing them of having poor motivations, which they often. Do like kills me. 'cause I'm like do you understand like this was snooky time? This was like when people would just make fun of this young girl, mail woman. Young old everyone has nation was lasting snooky. So yeah, I mean, even it's honestly it's so recent that we change though, even as recent as like, Honey, boo boo who was a five year old girl. Like at the time of this was like she was like seven like any reference for like a hillbilly or somebody fat? You would reference him Honey, boo. Boo. She also that was only like two thousand thirteen or something like we already started to improve by the. Yes. That was the better version of us. Yeah. I mean still give mama June a hard time. I'm not gonna you know, I'm going to say I personally do not give mama June our time as I have never even seen this show. But I know enough to know that we give her a hard time. So I also wanted to mention that I feel I have a responsibility to bring up just because helps. I don't know make the story more well rounded as far as britney's drug abuse. So right after Britney filmed clueless. She was involved in this head on collision. Car accident that caused her head to go through a windshield in for her whole life. She had like chronic chronic job pay her jaw literally unhinged from her face. So yeah, like really super critic job pain. And that's where she was like really introduced to prescription pills and obviously escalated throughout the years. But like I told you yesterday that it reminded me of like an Anna, Nicole situation because Anna was introduced to pills because her implants ripped open, obviously to completely different people in there like using drugs to cope completely different reasons. But like, you know, it's it's sad. When you can kind of literally trace back like a single moment in celebrities career that would inevitably be the thing that would kind of kill them yet. I mean, that's kind of gut wrenching. Yeah. I'm looking at crazy days of nights right now. And there's a thing that the crazy nights like basically, like a premier celebrity blind date gossip blog that's been up for twelve years so sort of it's like one of its own in its own category. And he, you know, the guy writes eighties entertainment lawyer, he goes by empty in. He said, you know, in his post about her dying was going to things that sucked is I one she was really really fucking talented in to it was very obvious that she was trying to straighten herself out like she'd be kinda fucked up one movie than she'd be fine for the next. And I do think that Britney was someone, you know, to the Anna, Nicole comparison, I think that they were both addicts I, but I think that like Britney really, I think Anna liked it. I think Anna loved. The she loved it. She loved the coke. She loves the pill. She loved the Buso Ray and Britney feel like it was like, she reluctantly had this addict in inside of her and all your soul. You know? What I mean like an-and always Anna was always Amphion it up and Brittany. Just didn't have that. You're that. You know, everyone addiction is possible. In anyone some people are more predisposed to it. And I think that she, you know, she did probably didn't wanna be like this. You know, it's like it's also a thing that you hear what like ping. I mean, it's decorative. It's a drug that you're given by Dr. And then you become addicted to it inspired such a huge problem in this country knife, you leg out of all the people. I've heard us like like in interviews or whatever I feel like pill. Addicts are the ones that do it with the least amount of pleasure like a lot of heroin addicts and meth addicts. It's like, it's ritualized. And they have a thing that they do. That they liked that they sort of get off on it. And they're excited for their drugs. I feel like pain killers people are like I just wanna stop stuck in taking these, you know, you're so right. 'cause like, yeah. I mean, like, Anna, Nicole or somebody who was just chasing the dragon like she ended a coal loved her life. You don't I mean, she loved being Anna, Nicole and not Vicky lane. And I feel like it's like such a weird thing. Because Brittany Murphy was somebody who was celebrated for being herself. And then criminalised for being herself for no reason. Whereas Anna, Nicole is somebody who was hated herself. And then was celebrated for turning into somebody different and lived in that and also didn't seem to suffer for her reputation too much. I mean, obviously did catch up to her a certain point in like affected her career in a lot of ways. But I don't think that she really had high expectations for career in the first. And so, you know being drunk in front of the 'paparazzi if that. Was like what she was known for. She's still gorgeous. She's still got it. Also going to show up in be pretty and Brittany. Murphy is someone waiting really cared about her crashed. It loved what she did in in. Obviously acting requires so much more than modeling in in the sense of like showing up being present in being like you're giving everything over that's my acting. It's so hard in my hat's off to anyone who does it you're giving everything over and that's not easy. You know yet? I wrote down the foam wrote lot. I read in an interview yesterday. A it was a day's magazine interview where Robert Alan Ackerman who worked with Britney right before she died off about how difficult it was to work with early during the specific time because she was so devoted to a craft. And she wanted to be a good actor. And she wanted the projects that she was working on to be successful and make money and like elevate her more, but at the same time like she couldn't get out of her own head like she had been sort of tormented to the point of of losing herself. But she'd kind of lost her mind he said that she had a really hard time focusing. He would have to like literally snapper finger. Sometimes like hold her face like look into her is really engaged with her in gear taken what he was saying. And you know, he also mentioned that she did have this very childlike energy because she was somebody who had never, you know, managed their own money or had a Bank account or driven a car or lived by herself. And she was kind of ads sort of stunted childhood, you know, her mom, she kind of her mom kind of put her to work at a very young age her. Mommy is basically involved in a pyramid game, and she would have to call people in like everyone who put their name in in a fish bowl or whatever for, you know, free a free house cleaning or free trip every single person would win quote, unquote end. So she would her mom would basically put her on the phone, and you know, she would have to I would try and get these people to sign up for these parties where they would sell basically like a newlywed. Starter kit. The whole goal was trying to get like a a young bride who needs a whole bunch of shit for house. And like so Britney was like, basically like running this scheme part time with their mom. So that she could get the money that she needed to get to LA. I know that I've mentioned this yesterday in our last week. But like there's a really big divide in how people feel about Brittany Murphy says relationship with their mother, and yeah, even just like entertainment people who've worked in the industry who worked with her like costume designers from clueless and just different people though, describe it as really sweet, and that they love that, you know, they would call each other soul mates, and that they were the people even the people who thought it was sweet described as sort of abnormally close. And then there are people who say like, you know, that her mom is hypercritical, and that a lot of her insecurities did come from her mom being the kind of woman who would kind of like, you know, pincher daughters. Love handles say like, oh, what's that? She was that woman. And you know, she had never not lived with her mom. She kind of. Retired from her career a couple times to help her mom battle cancer. And they just they were obsessed with each other in a way that is, you know, we're both only children like eight can go there easily. It could ease their it can easily get weird. But definitely was like a push polls represented in the movie as like, you know, they were very they grew up. Best friends, you know, young mom and their only child you grow up best friends during the same under the same roof all the time Britney by she forgot her first little house. It's like a little house in Sherman oaks that would probably cost few million now, and she she it was like a nice little modest house though. She got it when she was doing Drexel's class, which was the show she did after clueless. And right when she started to get around this phase the wrong com phase right before just married. She ended up buying Britney Spears, Justin timberlake's old house alternately. House. She winds up dead in a there's a lot of rumors insert stuff circulating around that. Of course, in particular with her mom people suspecting that may be the moments poisoning them, slowly or something like that. Because her she and her much much older husband died, you know of the same thing. Which is there's no way that there's just no way really weird is fifty year old, man. She's this young girl. These symptoms are the same. That's strange. So I will see that like NT's like take on. Sharon was that. She was terrifying. But but when when when Britney bought the house, the Justin Timberlake house, or whatever she she was demanded her mom who then her mom was like, she's like, I'm basically only buying this. If you come over, and she's like, don't you want get sorta like that was supposedly five her mom pushed for independence, and then, you know, gave in so. Of course, the fact that britney's mom was very ill though. I think you know, when you're only when the only person you you've known in loved your whole life is terminally ill with breast cancer. I think it was what we talked about this yesterday. You point it's a little bit like gypsy gypsy, rose, Lee, or whatever. Gypsy rose Blanchard. Like like when both people are sick. You really you really like it just adds another layer of codependence if like on top of any sort of like natural. Natural sort of magnet. It has you have towards that behaviour. Anyway, you know, for sure an- another thing that I mentioned to yesterday that I just think is important to I don't know just to acknowledge like for somebody who was beaten so bad in the press and who had such a hard time, and I would imagine during this period in her life like had so many people kind of mistreat her. In different ways. Like, you can't really help. But wonder what you know when you talk about Brittany Murphy, you can't help. But wonder what she would be doing or what actresses kind of maybe wouldn't even exists because Britney was still there to kind of her own personal spot, and whatever, and I just wonder like what like a post metoo movement. World would have looked like for Brittany Murphy, not to say that like I can you know, when hundreds and guarantee that Brittany Murphy was touched inappropriately, whatever concerts was. But like even just like mentally. I mean like mentally what she was put through by. She's such an insecure girl. And so like just so open to the criticism of this industry at every moment, just like taking every single bit of it in and so desperate at a certain point to be liked and to be like a headliner. You know what I mean like? Her is like, she's a lamb like, yes, she's a lamb like that's the kind of girl that you would say that about like, she is, you know, like first of all the drugs, she was honor. Also, you know, great at inducing paranoia. But you know, she really it was like she could feel people talking around about all the time. I think she's very sensitive to energy. I think you know, it was in by the way most very good actors are like on a heightened sensitivity. So I think like in a weird way late. She. Like was the best at this job. This job was not the best for her. You know? But there was nothing else that she should have been doing. But like it just it. It was so it's so sad. It's so sad truth also not wrong and being paranoid about people. Like everybody runner talking about it. Because they were you know, what I mean? So it's like, that's even more sad that her feelings were actually very justified. Like, it wasn't something where she was just crazy like people perceived her to be at the time like she was the topic of conversation and people had a lot of really negative should say about her. But do you wanna kinda just like dabble you want to dip to an astronaut little bit? Sure. Okay. So I mentioned to yesterday that I've talked at nauseam on this podcast about that seventy show which is so weird because it's not a show that really means anything to me. I like I have never made it through an episode could Caen shocked that it's in syndication. I that it had chew spin off. Like it is right up. Forgot about the. Yeah. I mean, that's like I know that obviously it must be a good show people love it. But I I have I've had never had less of a relationship with television program. It's like it's so odd to me that I've talked about it so much. I mean, honestly in with the Wilmer episodes of don't like five of those. So far me LA I've talked about Ashton a couple of times like that seventy been beat to death. So I figure we could just kinda pick up in what I actually find to be a really fascinating time national pitchers lifelike. Can I see the one thing that I do know about him that he has a twin that is not attractive? In my mind, I refer to him as like his twin his Tom Schwartz brother like, you know, what I mean? Like my God. Exactly. Exactly. And like, by the way, there are tons of celebrities that have unremarkable twins like tons starla. Johnson a twin did you know that it's it's a guy. So obviously he was gonna look different than her anyway. But to me it can be so wild. I know fraternal twins the innocence the whole point of it is that they look different. But it's. It's like, it's it's it's crazy how not like Ashton Kutcher. He he got he everything that Ashton got from whatever side of the family. He got it from his brother got it. From the other side. We didn't use it that you read that his brother like the Ashley stole all of his brothers nutrients or something. No. I was telling the story about how my my college boyfriend. Oh, yeah. And the the Bill go cord got wrapped around the. Twin brothers neck for like the last month of the pregnancy is so the guy I was with Matt he ate all of their food for the last month. So Matt was like bigger than him are uninsured to around in every way like his face was like an inch bigger his body was to two inches taller. And I was like oh my God. When I found that it was like, oh my God. Is that Dan is like so much smaller? Everyone in the family looked at me like no shit bitch. Also, we don't address that line. When we broke up. I literally was like you have always been a selfish person in fucking womb. Don't date twins. Like, if you if you know. It's weird. It's very weird. It's a whole thing. Like, I feel like the only people who actually can successfully date twins other twins. Yeah. It has. It's like it's like or their brother two brothers older and younger married. The same twit like, you know, what? I mean, the stories you hear about a lot. And by the way, like I will say I think it takes either a very at tuned out person from their own emotions or very very emotionally generous person to deal with all that comes along with like sort of like, the biological bond of twins will never be that person's number one notes that you don't you're not like who knows how to navigate that. Like, you're not just like there's no person whose is a Netflix. Good. It. Remli supremely mature in or that us to be your king. And I think it is a kink for a lot of people. I do too. I do too a lot of ways mentally sometimes more than like sexually. I really do. And so interesting to think though of like people always say like the like when you get older couples grow apart. The guy's not as a tract it. It's so funny to think of a guy like doubling down on that. You know what I mean? There. He's so fucking turned on by this bitch for his entire life. Or like all of a sudden, he's just like, wow. I guess like, you know, neither of them are that special heels a bit more like this isn't even fun to look at anymore. What you have to people that you're not interested in that are the exact same person. But it's like I can't I can't it's like too much when even think about. But no, I was going to say that I think that this air of ashes life is really fascinating. Because it's like, you know, he was four years into that seventy show. So he's like super super famous at this point. But he's like that kind of new fame or people are just excited to love Ashton. He's done, dude. Where's my car? And he's a year away from producing and starring in punked, so like he's right in that sweet spot of like becoming the Ashton that was like an aesthetic in early two thousand which I don't think people really talk about a lot. But like, oh, he like invented the trucker hat did. Yeah. That was like that all came from like all of the terrible pictures of Britney or whatever else people like even I forget as I'm saying, I'm reminding myself, he was very much like a trendsetter for that time in Hollywood. And I will say you talk about this yesterday about how self aware he is in bright. And I won't say that like that's sort of all went out the window for me when he decided he could play Steve Jobs on Twitter really early. I think a lot of people felt like that. Honestly, they're like, okay. We're kind done like you're done. You've had. Yeah. It's like okay now. We've okay we were like excited for you to achieve into bait. Break frown boundaries, by the way, you sort of like got on Twitter really earlier advocate for all that Neuner note. Honey, the line is Steve Jobs. One. He could've literally played anyone else. You could've played fucking Elvis in. I wouldn't have batted in. I I wouldn't Billy Steve Jobs as like, you know, what how about this. How there shouldn't be a movie about Steve Jobs. Like, it's just too weird. It's like we also know enough about him. It seems like the guy was like a pretty like psychotic, dude. Right. I don't know, man. I I will say that like, I think ashen is very good businessmen in. I think that a lot of that comes from having always been, you know, just like kind of true to his midwest roots that he'd probably you see that with certain celebrities that are from like berry non-hollywood families like some people are just very good. They get very good with their money. Very quick. They start to invest. They start to think outside the box in like what he was able to do in creating Peng's like, you know, start catalyst which was like his sort of, you know, almost like a Konya west style. Think-tank over there where they were producing TV shows. I am what was the one that. They asked me to try out for I did try out for one. Oh my God. It was so it was so was an MTV show. No. It will hold on. It was for come on. What was the word for the economic crisis that happened? What is the word recession recession? He says recession. He says is. For like girls like me like I was was to be like if it was queer eye like I'd be one of the guys like into my job was to go like it would be like me, and like three other girls going in and basically like telling a poor girl, take it from three other poor girls. Like, you know, you can still like ball out on like. Yeah. And I forgot I totally I think that if I didn't NDA of that that would be expired by now anyway, it was like twelve years ago. No wasn't file it was probably like eight years ago or something. But like I made a name for myself blogging in like, you know, doing YouTube, videos and stuff like that. So people knew of me as the side hustle, 'cause they always preaching the side hustle. Like, I'll be honest you. I think I might have invented the term side hustle. I when I Google that. I'd never I never came up with anything because I wrote a post on side hustles like on my tumbler, it was really released short. It just was like you have to be working like, even if you have a job, you gotta be work your side us all so that got some traction. And they kind of brought me in for recessions, by the way. I'm I'm kidding. I don't really think I invented that. I know the girl who invented the expression the woman rather the expression Muffin top. But. Yeah. First of all the name recession. He says is like so jarring to me. I can't even like out. Never forget you telling me this when I was at two brokers like I remember like saying like, yeah. Like, you know, what was this recession? What was that you tried out or I was like oh to show called recession. He says like they were like, Molly, that's like really insults. Just take such an insulting name. Yeah. I was like that occurred to me like it was like two years after when I so my NDA would definitely be expired in I seriously doubt recessive recession. He says is gonna come back. It is really tacky. But they were like so what we're part of the dishes saying if you met a girl who, you know, she doesn't have like nice furniture in her apartment like what would you or like would they be like if you need a girl who wants to get her business off the ground? What would you do when I would be like this was before like people really pitching. This is like she should start a Twitter account go viral, and like like everyone at this show when I was telling them as they were laughing they were like, Molly your your way for this girl to improve her life is to somehow become famous. They were like most people can't do that. They will. We everyone could do that. They're like, no, Molly, you think that's way that way. And that's why you work here. But no one else thinks that way like saying someone should like inland. Fakeness ironic because now like every person with a cellphone. Thinks that way. Yeah. Exactly. Is it? Okay. If I eat a pretzel stick while you keep talking. I'll put it on mute newly one. Okay. I like Neil. But I'll unu- when I have a deep thought. I was going to say that. I think it's like it's hilarious to me that we, you know, for the early in the early two thousands like to say that ashen was killing it is like an understatement. Like, he really he really like left his Mark. And looking back to me. It's really funny that we you know, we were very dimwitted. The one thing that I've picked up from doing this podcast in the early two thousands. We were a very dimwitted society. We didn't pick up on things very quickly. We need to we need it to be like shepherded towards the answers and with Ashton. It's like it took us a good ten years to figure out that he actually was trolling us. And that he wasn't this like dimwitted goofy hot idiot. He was actually pretty fucking smart. And he really had his finger on the polls of what was going on as far as like media, and technology, and like us culture like he dislike new the fuck was going on. But we bought he was his character from that seven. Show for a good decade. You know, I I have a question about all this because there's something about someone that can do that very well that is concerning to me is a person. That's like I could never pull that off. Really out there that underestimate me. But there's also a lot of people out there that overestimate me. So that's like in in a weird way lake. I haven't really ever heard a bad word about the guy like around town know that I would probably disclose that if I did. But like truly like I'll go out of the way to say, I've never really heard a bad word about him. But. That January Jones anecdote which he's never denied. I think addressed maybe briefly about how when they were dating you told her like, you know, what honestly this isn't a business frio. I don't think you're good enough, and you should probably not act and she got mad men shortly after whatever in her career really took off. She's not a gr-. She's not a great actress. Of a full young woman. And I always thought that that was like so there was something. So disappointing about that to me like it was. So there's been cruel unnecessary about it. Founded like the way that she said it sounded like it wasn't said in in a moment of light cruelty. It sounds like this is just sort of a conversation. They had in that freaks me out. It makes me sad. Because it makes me wonder if there's a deep fakeness him going on like who's running, you know, who's running the ship. I'm not saying that like the dude associated path or something. But it does it when someone's clever that actually John a little bit late that too. It gives me the he'd be GV's artery. Does I you're saying, no, it's it's a it's a look into their manipulative. Hel. Help good there at manipulating. Like, amber. He's right. Yeah. Because it's like this great guy that like all of ever heard people love him and think he's really smart. But then he also is the same guy who's capable of saying it's like really shitty thing. But he also is the same guy that made us thing that he was a big Bimbo debts for years, and it is strange because he was just found like wasn't he found working like an Abercrombie or something like he was wasn't guest in like he was living in Ohio working in an Abercrombie outage. He had jumped so quickly by 'cause I mean, you not have talked a lot about like like how scary it is to be in a relationship with a quote, nice guy. Like Jason, Hoppy? The one thing that I think is even worse than the nice guy is like like the funny guy a guy like ashen who's been told his whole life. But he's funny and cute, and he relies would hundred percent on being funny, goofy and Q and people have overlooked every negative thing. He's ever done. 'cause he's funny goofy and Q. And you know, I mean, I would imagine. Yeah. That's judge. You also just describe Justin Timberlake leg if I close my eyes. And you read me that description, the first person who would come to mind is Justin Timberlake, and honestly being married to him seems like the most fucking exhaustion thing. Which ought kidding me? Sit down. Sorry, my dogs. Just like what he wants. He's just like tap dancing on me. I'm for you. He always shut the computer off quite a bit sick down wags pickle, Wayne. I don't have any. Oh, you see. My pretzel stick fuck a girl. You know what I'm after? I actually had no idea you little sociopath. Walkaway wags hates two things in this life, fish and pretzels. He's never eaten them ever, Brussels. He's I that on one of those crunchies and then leg Joe, he'll just leave. It wouldn't even you won't even touch it. I'll be stepping on pretzels for days. Same thing of like made beautiful salmon fillets for myself before like shit. I bought from whole foods and like this motherfucker. Gimme a bike. Give me a bite, and I'm like fine. And then I'll give them a little lakes sliver of the fish like a little like, you know, whatever they call those things when this fish flakes apart auto piece, right? And then he'll come back. All right, fine, goon other little piece, and then I'll get up, and I'll see they're stuck in salmon all over my bedroom floor this motherfucker she's been taking it upstairs. Like, it's a prop like, it's crazy. The close you don't like salmon Aries thing, it's an areas thing because you don't mean the same birthday. So and I don't like I love seafood, but I'm I hate pretzels. And it's a really big attention for me when I go out to general people because pretzel option like every girl loves I'm always gonna get what Pratt song girls love pretzels thing like girls love hot pretzel. It's like there's something about the hot press old that cold. Girls love pretzels. And I'm always like bitch. I don't wanna print, but mean, only person isn't light them. He and I mean, it does get out of control at restaurants when it's got like the cheese and shit. It's like hanging from a hook. I'm like, I can't I I will though leg dip of pretzel stake in Dijon mustard at my house. Like, I love that. Also, one of the only like gluten items that I keep having my house like I'm just gimme the Oji. I need like an OG salty s Pratt's all I have a Jarama Maya fish right now in like I've had restraint like it's Ben in my house for like three weeks. And I've eaten like a quarter of it. But. Kretz Liz might treat man. I love them in white white. Turn steel mommy's pre op in my shit again. All right. All right. All right. Hold on. I'm just gonna eat the rest of this alone. I always feel like I'm eating like sawdust. I feel like I'm eating something. That is not meant to be consumed Brahim like I'm eating like a cheap wooden table that you get from like WalMart that's made of wood pieces that are like multi weather. So like. Like. When I come from very similar backgrounds. Like, my mom was always very like she didn't keep junk food in the house was was that a treat when you were younger. Yeah. There were certain things that she would always buy Costco that we're like within our guidelines, and I got sick of all of them like h Campbell's chicken noodle soup. It was my favorite thing in the whole world. My mom bought like or cans like four pallets of hands. And that's it for like two years. And then one time high C, which I was not allowed to drink at all was on sale. You were only allowed to buy two per customer. And my mom was like watching our friends for a couple of days every every every week. So she got like she had. Me, my friend, her younger brother may friend's mom and her all of us were in line holding two cases of twenty each of us world ING, forty eight. Hi c. And it was only the only the fruit punch flavor like, HUD. She's Christ then and so I guess forty eight times times what is that five? That's many high see is that we had that summer. And granted there was three of us drinking them. But I to this day you couldn't pay me to take a set. And then, but the one thing that she always bought was he's huge fucking sacks of pretzels. Like, I'm talking like the size of a big beagle. Okay. I never got sick of these fucking pretzels. Like, they were just a one saying that like I could eat them anytime around the house they were quote unquote, healthy compared to like normal snacks. And I just never got sick of them. I don't know how I've eaten this many pretzels in my life, and I still unwilling to go back for more. I mean, like there's a thing though is like I say that I don't like pretzels. But put one in front of me. Let's see how many minutes takes me to like fee if I like them, I'm using fingers. You know what I mean? Yeah. We'll also the shape is. A big this shape of the pretzel affects the taste for shore. You know, like like those little the little I normally don't like appraisal. Rod, but these ones I got nice insulted. But a lot of times the salt falls off by call call them tacky principles where they're they're pretzels. That are like you can only get it like fucking the gas station like a truck stop at like pretzels early covered in shit or them like dipped in things I just can't eat like a plane prince, oh rod on it's only dipped in a mustard or covered in like a Honey mustard or something do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I also just want to shout out to every single person listening to this for listening to us talk about practice. Who prime really sorry? It was my overhead dog that. The lies, and frankly was neat for when I was twenty three for not training this dog. Really responsible for that. Let's talk about their actual relationship now because it's so sure that okay. You got on pretzels Jim wanna wrap up anything on not good? I wanna move on. Okay. Good. I will Filipino saying. But concluding that portion of podcast. I can't wait to come back in do something terrible next time. Okay. So as we mentioned earlier, you know, they met on the set of this horrible movie just married and during the press tour for the movie Britney, did it an appearance on the tonight show? And she said we got into an argument during the first rehearsal, and I've never argument anyone in rehearsal before my entire life. It was it was a little Baker. And I didn't even remember why it was just silly as she said, I had a broken heart. When I first met him, and he wasn't a very serious relationship with very lovely woman. But we just clicked and we had a great time filming. And then I went a win away to film. He went away to do his film. And then we thought about it two months ago. And we were both like this is something and Ashton did an interview on I wanna say Letterman where he said we had this big big huge blow fight. She hated me. And I hated her. It was a straight up argument like a real one, but we both apologized to each other. And now we are. And it's worth mentioning like really quickly. No, you're fine. I was gonna say that just married was like this was like a giant smudge on Brittany Murphy's career. 'cause she had just gotten to the point where she like had her name like, you know, above the title this movie. And that was a really big deal. It's all she wanted. It was the whole reason that she's done this whole body makeover. And she got it. And then the first movie she really gets besides spun which was like people like spun. But this was like a big deal, and it was nominated for three golden rise awards. It was panned and everybody hated it. Yeah. It is interesting. I the only thing that came from this was sort of this relationship for the two of them, and they were so fucking in like gooey. I was in Israel Keaton, Arianna gooey couldn't find. Just like really like shamelessly couple couple out in love like it was it was it was kind of one of those things where it's like this is so sweet to see it's very rare you catch people like this crazy in love at the beginning of their relationship. But you're also like if you've ever experienced that you see that in your like, all man. This never a always sucks went 'cause everyone's gonna break up every single person on this planet probably going to break up with whoever they are with and less deaths like unless death occurs. So really quickly. I will say that. To me the way that they thought I really do attribute a lot of Brittany Murphy is acting skill to sort of that dynamic because the movie was about a couple that met in had this like, you know, really quick love affair in one on like a terrible honeymoon. That was just like awful, they fought the whole time. And it was really like, you know, accusing each other of cheating and stuff like that. So hard to me wondered I'm like, I wonder if she was just like so into this that like that's kind of that was born of an like also like why their relationship started to make sense because they had they have acted these out before they have experienced emotion, so to speak, you know. And. Also, can I just say that Ashley Scott was the girl that he was dating when they first met in. She was like some right after January Jones to give that sort of a thing when it I wanna bring this up again because I think it's really fascinating. And I wanna hear people's opinions because you and I have completely opposite opinions on Brittany Murphy's sex life. And I just think that's so funny because we're both so. On the same page with her and like every aspect to her bones. But then when it comes to like her freak number as Andy Cohen, but say Runco pages, I want people to weigh in, and like I want people to like tell us what they think. I'm going to be honest. They're not I think to me more is the first person that he got with that like really fucking love to be thrown around in the sack leg, all these other. Jake's with the exception of Nelly Furtado who seems like she's a fucking bad ass rumored dating in Lindsay Lohan who I feel like will probably let you do anything you fuck in want to her. Every single other girl that he dated from. Ninety five to demean more, which is in two thousand three they they seem very vanilla. Like, they probably love to suck their boyfriend. You know, like very like horned up for their boyfriend. But like, I don't see Britney being kinky person. I don't see you're being even someone that does anal like, I really don't like I got the sense that she very much, and I think that her role in eight mile. I think also sort of contributes maybe like the idea that this girl had a high freak number. I never really got someone. Never really felt like. Again, it's kind of a little bit like gypsy rose where it's like she was so in with her mom now, of course, it turns out that gypsy rose had had a lot fetishes. Like the old. Som it freak got the. In a weird way. Like, I don't think she actually really was. I think she was a good kid talking about like the idea of sex in one set sort of actually became a real for sure she was very like a, you know, I think she wanted to the bitch lose their virginity. Right. And I actually so horny that you'll somehow get into weird dominatrix in furry shit because you've been thirty years had sex. Yeah. That's the thing. I I knew a girl who hired someone because she had a rape fantasy. And she hired this guy to do it and metaphor, and they had this conversation. And she was like I want you to go for it. Like, I'm gonna come home. Like, you're going to jump out of the fucking bushes. And from like ask from there on like, I I'm gonna pretend like, you know, like, I am scared of you, and I have no control here. Live out the stand to see. And in a weird way. It's like to me. It was one of those things where I was like, the truly terrifying thing about this. Is this gives you something that you think you want or like something that's interesting to you. But in actual practice like this could be this could ruin your life. You know, if you knew in the back of your head that it was like, not really a thing it, it would just I think it's a little bit risky. So in some ways, I do I think maybe even if she talked some big game, which I don't think she did at all. I would be really really surprised if she was hyper sexual person. Here's what you actually meet in the middle of them. Because I do think that I do think for Murphy was hyper sexual, but I see it as like, hyper sexual almost in like a college way. Not unlike the way of like mature woman who loves her sexuality sleeping around wise sleeping around and like being like like, babe. Let's let's go have sex in the bathroom like I see her being like really almost overly passionate with her boyfriend to the point that like she was the girl that maybe wanted to like that would like grabbed his dick and a movie theater or something like that girl. Not. Time. But like you don't ever. Yes. She was tied to that one blind item about like fucking cater waiter in a hallway. Yes. And even mentioned that in the movie, but I believe they took liberties with that mind that was always curious done if I'm being honest because heard actual light on record, quote, unquote, dating history is very short. It is short Brandis for awhile. Then she was with Tom green Eminem for a year than Ashton for seven months, then guy shifts wanting something Fred Durst. Joe macaluso? That's right. David. They were thing. I think she was engaged to him. Even then Simon mon- Jack in like that is not a lot especially for the time that she was around in Hollywood and also strikingly every single guy on this list is one of the best at what it is that they do including Simon Jack ping con, man. Like like. Jonathan Brandis was like one of the hunky is hung. So that time green was I truly original that like broken format, basically Eminem completely changed the game broken new format Ashton Kutcher, literally as you were saying was it sort of brilliant. Man. I don't know who Jeffs is Jeff is a I don't know. I think he's a business person of some kinds than she did some business guys. Fred Durst totally like the head of his own league. Even if it is bizarre in small league top what he does. And I think that's so eating. That's so interesting that that's her pattern. You know? There's no there's no looks thing here. That's a common thread, the only thing. That's common is I think she really liked unique guys that were great at what they did. I agree with that like one hundred percent and Eminem is like the Brittany Murphy of his world in my mind, like Ashton Kutcher is the Brittany Murphy of his world in my. Mind that they she was so incredibly talented and like head and shoulders above her peers. Yeah. I agree with that. And I will say that like, it's interesting. Fred Durst pops up a lot on this podcast, also and people's dating his three. And I think the he had a knack for like sniffing out girls in like a very specific sort of time period in their lives relate. I don't know where they were like sort of looking to fritters knows what he is. You know what I mean? I think he's like very, hyper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, he. He was the one who said lake when the Britney rumors were going around us. I got it. Like, I was a bad team. You know, like he gets it. I think truly he knows he leads into that. Like, he leans into that bad boy thing where it's like, you know, that you you'll get in trouble for being with me. You know what I mean? Like, he's that guy. But yeah, I agree with that. I definitely I definitely don't think Brittany. Murphy was like being hog tied. I think that it was like a college thing. And also she was small and short, and I feel like I've been friends with a lot of really oddly enough. A lot of my really close friends in life from middle school to now have been short, hyper sexual girls. I don't know what that is. Like somehow, that's a thing. And like all of them have the same sort of a static. And I feel like Britney Murphy had the thing where she kind of likes being like Tiny's like being picked up and like maybe not like thrown into walls. But she liked being like the small little thing in the bedroom. Doing what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's definitely a huge turn on for guys fetter. And when you are sexualize awesome. Whether you want to be or not that definitely sometimes plays out would. So can I just say one thing that just is a little bit off topic kind of offic about sort of her being all over the place. Like, if you look at someone like Jessica Simpson's dated who page literally every single person is like an attractive brunette male until you get you're the man she married who's a blonde guy. This dated like routing sort of like shithead brunettes like guys like had that sort of leg. Johnny Knoxville, Adam LeVine, bam Marge era, Dane, cook. Like, these are all. Same world. You know what? I mean. Of course, you graduated like Jared Leto, John Mayer and stuff do but. Yeah. Like if you look at the at her page a lot of other people's pages Fred Durst when I looked at his page. It's what Meech click just literally every single person for the most part with the exception of a rare brunette and redhead, they're all blondes. They're all blond porn stars type girls. Like literally like, there's one black around here. Like, you could see like, you know, like sometimes Fred Durst like to mix it up like try redhead, but like diet a blonde bitch. Nickless say they have the same type. But he's like, yeah. All current Stephens. Like, yeah. Okay. I'm not Nicklaus. Shed meant to say. Nick carter. Nick Carter definitely had type two net Carter. Yeah. Is definitely definitely a lot of these. I mean, damn it is crazy though, when you look at Brittany's page house, sparse, it is for the amount of time that she was in Hollywood how many guys should probably could've thoughts. And I think that that also kind of speaks a little bit too. Maybe your personality a little bit about monogamous. She was but also, you know, I think that she never knew how beautiful she was which is how this happened. And it's like why league with the exception of few of these guys like they're all arguably like, you know, a four to hurt her her nine noting. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean like this girl had no business being with Simon in the first place. I mean, my God like that was like the most odd pairing of people just in general like just lurch. Be like me she I could put ice. Aw, writer put this the best way. I've ever heard sends you like a six you can eight on you know, what I mean? Yeah. That's tough. That you signs you like to really I think a lot of women young people are like why she with that life batch lucky girl. Flat chubby I and I'll be like because she's always gonna be a prize. He'll work really hard like keeping her because he feels lucky to have her. Yeah. Like, she doesn't have to do anything. She shows up to the party, and she's already better looking most people, but he always sorry. Go ahead, hunting fine. I guess we have to talk about their break up. Now, we mentioned earlier at the beginning of the podcast that. The director of just married did confirm that they were kind of sent out with with engagement rings to promote the movie and just kind of be photographed with them in the world is kind of ran with it. But day inevitably seven months into the relationship. They did break up and. You know, one of actions really good friends give this exclusive to contact music dot com. Every week laugh. Good friends. Rinta given exclusive. Dot com. What literally worked one day in like the rap services thing of like, a new show pudding little like peanuts into cups. Everything has to have a cover on it for sanitary reasons. Like this man, literally managed the mixed nuts at at that seventy show. I can promise you. But anyway, keep going. I also love that. I'm the only person in the entire world who is clicking contact music dot com for exclusives. Which is fine though. But he mentioned that it had a lot to do with their differences and their values, and basically that ashen he had been wanting to get out of this relationship for several several years, and that he was not really done party like aspirin. He wanted to get out of it for several some bins. Okay. Okay. I was gonna say this fucking crook over at contact mus-. He's not even like doing his. Okay. No for several months wanted to break up there. But like he couldn't. And he wanted to go out and basically fuck young starlets in Hollywood. But he said he wants to go out and have fun without a girlfriend. He likes going out all the time and Britney is definitely more of a homebody which plays into. She wants to concentrate on her work, and the friend also mentioned that Britney was under constant watch. By her mother, who I mentioned previously, as you know, people had all these opinions about her mom, you know, was Britain's best friend, they call each other soul mates bubble, blah. But as far as britney's relationships, like her mother did play really heavy part in you know, who she stayed with because her mom played a heavy part in every decision. She made in her life Brittany while this probably wasn't a very fair for trail of her in her movies. She was she seems very insecure about I mean, this was also during a time in Hollywood where you didn't go out later get you didn't go get a drink like you were fucking out dog. Like you were at lay do like. Casual dive bar was like was like, oh, that's like a hipster thing. Like, you know, as that actually normal way to behave as an adult. So like, this was definitely a time to where he'll not only issue like knock going out because she doesn't really want to. I think that like she was nervous at his friends didn't really like her that she was just sort of like along for the ride or whatever they were only like nice to her because of him, and she felt very self conscious about the fact that she didn't party they were all kind of like nightlife people which I personally relate to as like a incredible injure vir-. Like, there's something very scary when you're dating extrovert, even if you trust them about just like 'cause I it's not second nature to us. So like, we're like do you do that, you know, and? It's like for him to be out. Like, you know in town like there was also reports in the in the pop Razzi of everything that happened the next day. And of course, at that point. You know, anytime was seen talking with beautiful blonde. Like, it would be like so-and-so cheated. You know, so it was it. Yeah. It's like my the here's my next set up. And you said that it's scary as an extrovert as an introvert today. The next I've never like really looked at it as something. That's like scary. First of all, I don't even know if I'm an introvert extrovert, but I do relate to the fact that rupaul calls himself and extroverted introvert and that he was in his house all the time. He wants to be reclusive. But he has a personality that lends itself to the people thinking, he's an extrovert when he's not exactly my problem. Yeah. And like people disapprove that you can handle any situation. They can put you in a room and you'll talk, and it's like I'll manage, but I don't necessarily want to and internally be fucking freaking out the whole time. It does feel scary scary as a really good way to to describe. Because it's like another inch avert is they like nurture that part of you that gets like social anxiety. Whereas an extrovert will kick you kick you into situations where you're like. Okay. Fava's that's been a huge problem for me like a lot of friendships, and even some of my oldest friendships like Ed like, it's you know, now are at a point where I'm like. Okay, back it off because he's like, oh, she socially hanged. Unlike hey, I'm not on how. On a developmental delay. Get your best. Don't really like I don't really know how to do this. I don't have questions to ask anyone. And because I'm not interested in them. I just like, I panic. I can't think of anything for years. I would have to be like Joe like if I say, I'm not going not because I wanna punish you. It's because I don't wanna make people miserable. There's I'm also someone that like I affect the energy of a room. Unfortunately, I've come to learn that I felt the energy of a room. I'm not one of those people that you know, if I'm in a bad mood. There's no like if I'm in a bad mood. Everyone knows it in the mood of other people can't hide it. I wish I. But I have one of those faces you know, that like people can just like I have a face that can't hide it. And so when I had. Yeah. Like look said, no, I'm not I'm not sad. Just look set. No. Or like, yeah. I am fucking upset. And I wish that I'd have to talk about this right now because I was better at hiding should on my face. Your constantly like when the last thing, you want is attention it like gets all this attention on you. And then you feel bad for feeling bad or whatever. But like, yeah. You have to like, you know, for me. It was a big thing for me to finally like you like I'm not doing this anymore. Is it doesn't the great results? Like, you know, I'm not I the abbey in here light rail. Here was a huge bar next to the abbey. Like, I was go, and I would be miserable. And I knew it was because I had literally the the energy of like, you know, three thousand horny queer people drunk off their brain in one space like it for some reason everyone has to go to the same fucking bar in. I would just like come home a ball of nerves the alcohol would hit me really quickly really hung over. That's the other thing. Like for me. Drinking in social situations. Often goes. Hands. It hits me really quickly exam running off adrenaline. So I could see that also being another aspect of sort of like britney's looping ass- in a weird way nudge, like either either either like right myself since sort of redemption check, or like prove something about her that I don't really know. But like, let's say she had had a drink or two backstage at Leno like that could. Absolutely, you know, and I'm sure most people do I feel like a lot of times you hear someone drink fucking handle of tequila before they went out on the Letterman stage. But I think with Britney probably hit her very hard. She seems like a very sensitive. She's a delicate constitution. Like even more sad about this than I was before we started like, it's just like, I don't know. I never until. And this may be naive of me. I don't know. But I never until like really doing research for this episode and the episode of Eminem. I never looked at Brittany Murphy as this like introverted shy delicate like precious moments figurine, like I always saw her as you know, the clips that you see of her is fucking. Brought like she. Yes, she has a jersey broad thing about her. Yeah. That's also just like she from jersey. You know, what I like different personalities can exist in jersey, but you still have the same accent? I will say that like I'm not I don't want to speculate on her. Mental health too much. But you know, she was on a fuck load of prescription drugs in one of them was a bipolar medication in I wouldn't be surprised eating. It's the part of me. I haven't been diagnosed. But it's the part of me that thinks I have BI polar is I'm very sensitive to outside forces. You know, what I mean, it really affects my mood. And I think I wouldn't be surprised if she had something similar, maybe not depression. But like, I'm more mood based thing, but she was very sensitive to be so sensitive to be an actress, you like to be honest with you like even during this time like in my mind, the images images that come to your mind when you think of celebrity and there's certain seventies. Where everybody's images the same which is really weird. But with her for me, it's like during this time in the mid two thousand early two thousands is like I just picture her like VM as giving middle fingers grabbing her crotch and like running up towards the stage to like. You know, like point towards Frederich valley. Singing nookie. And like, I don't know like that girl that her bubbly funny outgoing. So like, I never viewed her as being this delicate angel and now I'm like, even you know, and he might not be everyone has duality them for sure. But I think who she wasn't her core, you know, like all those sides of her existed. You know, like it's funny to think the for doing that. Now, like what what was her mental state when she was doing that like really having a lot of fun, and like a child like part of her is sort of like delayed childhood that she has because she never really got a full one as a kid. You know, is that that coming through or was she fucked up or was she just like, you know, I mean was it a combination of just being released childlike and also maybe a little bit fucked up. Also, like, your lean into this like fame thing you have and like or maybe. She was you know, she's still bright item. But she tailed about the industry and seeing one of her favorite musician farm was like berry Coulter who knows you know. You are really quick to because she didn't have much of a known personality. I think it's very easy for people to fill in the blanks based on like, you know, a couple of things. But I swear to you guys like go back and watch some of these Leno and Letterman, interviews and stuff like that. And you'll really see like this girl was like she was not the person that like. The way that they would talk to her was as if she was a person that she's not light they were deciding her public image. And that person who was sitting. There was not that sitting there being like his, you know, like she tell us story. They'd be like oh like in. You know, what was that, you know? And she like following up on a don't she'd be like, oh, it was my pet, squirrel. You know? And so then they'd be like, okay. Well, maybe there's actually a perfectly reasonable, maybe even lovely explanation for that. You've decided to take this anecdote into a weird territory or not go along with the punchline that you agreed upon 'cause I could say the same thing if you had a good hearty laugh about it. It wouldn't have sounded crazy. It's you looking at her life. She's crazy that makes it easy. He's the girl that would laugh at all from they would lead into it because they would think that she liked it. And it's this whole. Whole thing. Like this like realized that she's not going to stand up for herself. One of the things that I love so much about Arianna 'Grande, and I think has separated her for pretty much every other pop star. 'cause we talk about you know, sort of the bullying that's gone on interviews over the years quite a bit like just like fuck in. Hey, Diane Sawyer now, I know that she handled Britney in a way that a lot of those stars were handled the Arianna 'Grande is to me. So I contacted because you know, not since like someone like a Whitney Houston even Whitney Mariah sorta had their own way of doing it. But she will stay present in that moment in like, no that's sucked up, that's actually sexist. I'm not answering question, and you need to examine why you would ask that like she is that person like that in Brittany. I think most people most women are not taught to do that most women are taught to just like go along with it and not make things awkward, but you know, there's. People like her in a Britney Spears that have been so. Condition to be likeable and also probably very shy flowers. You know, they allowed themselves to be railroaded like that have discussing sexual things said to them, and to you know, to late may be bad in I make a little face. But like certainly never be like don't talk to me like that. Or you're taking that out of context. You know will Yuccas. It was even more controversial to bat at I you know, what I mean. That's the fucked up thing. I remember there's like a really Connick press conference where like one of these people ask during the crossroads press like they asked Brittany house. He ended up losing her virginity. Yeah. Like like her answer was like, I mean at the very politely southern end little backhanded, maybe. But like the the controversy was based on her being a bitch wise is just like. Audio's? Not right. I'm gonna keep it. Do whatever it is. You're doing in another room. No does he senses another male energy. And I am podcast. I'm gonna go in the I'm gonna go in my office. Well, no now you fucking ruined it. So you have to sit in a bed by yourself. Okay. Now, you sit in a bed by yourself. Whatever me he wouldn't let me record. Like, you wouldn't let me I'm recording in my fucking bed because he wouldn't let me sit in my office today. Now, I'm in the bed and he's yelling at me. So I'm going to the office where I've meant to start my day. Okay, obsessed with the fact that you're kind of in an abusive relationship with lags, and like it's the dynamic try I had a pinched nerve in my back right now because he won't let me sleep pushes me out of the bed. And like you've seen you gun in my bed. It's a fucking gang. And. He's so how many over the years how many thousands of dollars? I have put into finding the right pillows into finding the right sheets in a making. Sure, my mattresses amazing because the healthiest thing anything that you can do if you want to improve your life the first investing. You can do is create a perfect bed. I worked my whole life for that bed. Okay. This motherfucker will not let me sleep on it. He won't. I have to have a I am. I am just I have one eighth or one eighth of my bed and ice fall. I've fallen off of it before because he's pushed this dog is eight pounds for anyone who doesn't know dead weights his ass on my back. So every time I push. So a pushover slightly in. If I try to move him actually fucking CPS should be here. I get bit in my sleep. I get yelled at once. I'm fucking exhauted pisses me off like not to sorry. Like, I by the way, you guys I love this dog more than anything like if you're hearing hatred in my voice right now. It's because I need a break. But like I love, but I love this dog more than anything like it would. It's only from laws that he's become this way. But it's yeah. Like, he owns monas- your full sleeping with the enemy like you are in an abuse hose, my ass and like. Raped me. Like, that's the worst thing is that like bird szeswith each other. I can never get mad at him. Because he actually is like I think this dog evolved to to look as Judas he does which jobs do so they can manipulate the fuck out of you. I really feel like he really broke loose in his category himself, the Fred Durst Joa or the Eminem of Douala's. He is like up sucking leader in his category on cuteness, but also manipulation. The dog that wags is in his heart is like a he's like, he's a cujo. But like he looks like he could be drawn by like Disney Pixar, you know, what I mean? I really did think based all Beverly Hills wa wa from. All over the internet at that point. It was like probably fucking three years in a half. And this guy said in Beverly Hills drama comes out, and I was like. Early stole my fucking dog. Literally look Beverly Hills. Chihuahua two side by side for hill. We gotta do they stole my dog and it in like. See what I mean? We stole my dog. I'm fine with that. Because like, obviously this movie is about a fucking beautiful dog. I mean, but when wags was a puppy, Honey. This is exactly what he looks like like, you had a little bit of like that like more like skinny hollow. He was like he was never like a gross Showa by any means. But he looked exactly like is fucking Beverly Hills draw dog and. Like, you know, if if dole pointed the movie is is one good lookin' motherfucker, I can live by that. I can live with that. But like I would like at least someone over at Disney to admit to me that they stole my dog's face Molik legit. This is why we really funny thing though, is if you look at Beverly Hills to Allah one two three it's supposed to be the same dog each time. But it's very blatantly not which I love the not continuity in Beverly Hills twelve franchise praise. Five action. It's it's not animated is. No, it's a live action where they move their mouths right now. I think it's animated all my God. If they if they didn't steal my dog. And I'm like. I'm like I did ask him based on my dog. And I know I swear to you telling you at a lot of people reach on's, they wrote a character loosely based on me for their pilot that you're whenever okay. There was a period of time where I was a unique personality out in this world. If people could copy needs to write a caregiver TV show that sold then why wouldn't someone steal my dog's face. I think that Disney lease owes me courtesy of admitting it, that's it. Maybe inspired by that would be nice. If because I know it's another real dog. Maybe it's one of wags his siblings. He did have a lot of siblings that's possible. But I dunno nominal where Google thing and I can't along like, I'm like. On like looking really weird stuff Beverly Hills. Trauma like I can't. Wack ask people posing pictures your dog looks like the Beverly Hills Shula. Right now, this I'm gonna send this you this looks animated to me. Sorry, everyone. This is really putting the pretzels rent to shame is just need. But the raving about never Liles trauma being stolen from my dog. Okay. Let's go back to Ashton. If able the only thing that I have left in my notes that you've all been waiting for which is this this pita scandal, which like I didn't know, and I feel really done because I'm like very very much like I am constantly trying to sniff out. How big I think somebody's dick as far as like celebrities after it's my main talent in life. No like legit. It's like, I really it's like there is there certain personality traits to just lead to so many different things as far as peanut size. The look of a Pena's circumcised or not it's it all plays out and Ashton, which I didn't know until looking this up. But like if you look on any like top -tainer top fifteen list of like. There's there's a handful of men that are on top ten list for having like big Dicks. It's always Jon Hamm, Liam Niessen like the civic lists of men that's always the same guys. And then there's a list of men they're always on. We're having small penises and Ashton Kutcher is apparently on the list. And this all started from Brittany Murphy. And it's it's followed him through different phases of his career and in two thousand and four Britney appeared on tall. She was on David Letterman, and she made at this point they had broken up. And he was dating to me more and Britney made a joke about how to me more must not care about about. She said Jimmy Moore must not care about size. It must not be important to her. She's dating Aston and the whole audience freaked out like went crazy. And then she it was such a big a big miniature scandal at the time that she had released a statement to like a magazine or something saying that like she said the trouble. She said my trouble is that I talked. I think Lee. But I really didn't mean to cause any harm or offence his relationship. And then ironically, while Demi Moore and Ashton we're going through their thing because he cheated to me was very famously going around and showing people pictures of Ashton's penis, and they like laughing about how small it was. I'm like a bunch of different reports or a bunch of different news sources reported that several people were like I was at a party, and to me more she'll be picture of ashes dick, and it's really small and like this is a thing. That's followed him for like now it's been like his whole career. Okay. So because you were doing all that preamble. I finally just had to break and Google Ashton Kutcher, dick. And one thing came up with his current wife. Did you hear this? Oh, the beer the beer canned thing at the carrot or beer can coronate like what his dick is more like in quarter, basically had to walk her into beer can carrots, Nick. It was like, wait actions. Dick occurred sick and choosing. No. Like, it's not. It's not sure. And I'm telling you there. There's no girth to that bitch. That guy has got a skinny ass, dick. I know I know he's got a skinny ass, dick. And like, yeah. I can just tell he seems like it too. And like it was funny. Because at first I thought this was going to go the other way, I was going to be like, yeah. Britney probably did think it was a big day. She probably is only seen like six he had it being lights to have a big, dick. Yeah. Exactly, exactly. Like, the only be that. He has from his sort of like cool, calm collective business sense. You know, what I mean in a way that is not that's like. Okay. So like all like, ugly guys come to town. They get make it famous like all of a sudden they can fuck over they want. It's like almost like his version of that like his whole life. He had this tiniest, dick. And now we can fuck whoever he wants or something like that. I don't know. But like it makes sense. Why like a lot of MS? Not to categorize too much, but pretty much all of his girlfriend's like have been just like tiny little little loss. Little blond girls. Like, you probably don't know shit about Dicks. Said this before I've said it a million times. And I will I'll continue this will be on. My tombstone be definition of big energy to me haven't federal line. I'm sorry. Reminder percent. That's bit bats areas. Big dick energy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Like with energy like people are miss people like miss categorize that so much, and they were like, I hate at all it was so annoying. And I'm like, you don't get it. Like you. Let's really think about this for a second. We had ever in fifteen years not one time ever seen Kevin federal line freak out speak of a whisper exactly for second. Thank you. I thank you to calmly and confidently crawl out of a swamp and do rail the pop the life of the biggest pop star in the world just from fucking her. And then and have no I mean, like the whole world hates your chillers. Fuck dick. Dick energy. Yeah. It's like, you know, what would be you got nothing approve. You've got nothing on the long say, whatever it is. You want all day long because you know, what? At the end of the day. Nothing matters. I got a big lead. Athlete. I've experienced all the best things you can in life. Literally throw it at me. I feel like a guy with big gets a lot of shit thrown at him at a much younger age. And so he let's things buck in roll off his back in by the time he realizes he has a big he's invincible. But like, no truly like you or someone like most people are like, oh like big energy. No, literally, truly I feel like you. And I are you're the only person that I believe comes close to my level of being a scholar on. Don't like it was reckless when that was brought up on the public level that should've never been something. We talked about something that like I may be would would write a Cesis on this when I was fifty five and I felt like I lived enough in experience. I've been studying Beatty since I was fifteen years old. Okay. But since way before I even had sex, okay. No, I can tell you any guy put him in a line and guy I can tell you who's packing with what anything I don't. I can tell by the way they crossed the street. That's all I can tell I clock it. So like when that was thrown out. I mean, you really have to I would love to see a dick. That's apprised me. I really would. I would love to see something that I'm like. Wow. That's certainly doesn't belong on that inland girls being like just people in general being like in lights big energy. No, no, no, no, no. You're missing the entire only. Do you? Remember that guy that did a backflip off the California highway sign like it was like a thing where like climbed up a highway sign, and then the police had to come and put out a trampoline for him to jump on. I don't know that it was like two days after Beatty he broke and like people I like retreat at night. I am so attracted to this man like. Decided to like fucking crawl on a highway overpass and literally like Chilin like he's schilling up their American flag tank top or something. Fire department comes out the police come out, they blow up one of those huge mass that they that they do when someone's about to be a jumper or whatever like they. Well, they have one of those do early when you finally feel like I can't hold out anymore. You cross his hands over the front of his body. And flicks back in does a triple backflip onto the thing. And I was like I'm so attracted to this, man. And like, oh my God talk about beating. And I was like no like literally this guy. Definitely does not everything that happens here. This guy who I'd be like as he has nothing approve bitch. Like, it doesn't matter like if up at noon or a few weeks up at six AM. He's getting the same results. Nuts matters. Not is that is say qua- PD. I feel like another another tall tale. Sign of is like a young guy who much like a Kevin Fedor line who has like a lot of issues with baby mamas because like he fucks so much that like be just has children everywhere. Like twenty two you know, what I mean like he just calmly handles it. And it was like maybe not like the best dad, but he's just chill about this crazy shows the fuck out dog. I mean, he's walking around in a car heart long-sleeve. Like just like he'd never like a like he never had a bridge that he really like get you know, like he went from being like just a fuck boy to like dad, number three. Yes fairly. That's yes. Yes. What a minute of background to the lifetime movie. Known would blink like the way that he is now like he just looks like fucking American Merican guy. But like it's crazy to think that this guy wants like had the entire nation. I mean, it is very Pete. Davidson yet the entire fucking nation of possess. All we wanted to do with see this pop star survive in thrive after that break up like is very similar. It is God it. Moma? The last thing that I have in my notes is actually it's it's it's a it's a it's sad. This is post post mortem quote from Ashton. It's two thousand and ten where he said, you know, he said, you know, when you go to a party and everybody is standing around in the music is going, and you know, sooner or later, everyone is going to dance Britney was always the first person to get up and dance. And I try and connect to that. And celebrate who she was and how she was and not and he said and not make sense of it because there's no way really to make sense of her death. But yeah, I mean, he was like working on some project two months before she died, and he called her randomly the end spoken in years. And was like would you be interested in like maybe during this? So he brought her in. She auditioned was great. And she was so good that he actually had her sit in to help audition. The rest of the cast of whatever this thing was was working on. And then a little over a month and a half later she had died. So I'm gonna say something this is. Is sort of a sweet anecdote, but I have a very different take on this ashes a fucking user dog. He knows that. She is the premium talented that she can like see through the sons or like she would be able to have that casting magic. You know, what I mean of I once had a casting director describe it to me as one it's the right person like as opposed to it being like a like coming across lake an aura of one color starts to look plaid. Like when you know, it's rain it's sort of like, it's your brain like plaid. Okay. And I think that she had that, and I think that he doesn't, and I think that Asha might be one of those people and many people are and I fucking hate them. But it's only because I can't do it myself, which is that they're really good at fucking assembling a good team of people around them. They can use that they can use to make themselves better. Like, that's how I felt when I was watching Michael trion. What's his face? The other dickhead host the Golden Globe. Run over they hosted like it's like, yeah. Like that shows a lot more memorable because their writers for Ellen. They got half the cast invest in L to be on the stage. He got all these people to bring up their average end leg. I will say that. I'm would be surprised if acting with something didn't come naturally to ashen as much as it's just another thing. He's good at being it's another like skin. He can put on. In that, you know, he really probably didn't need a true actress Brittany in the room to help him. And it's nice that like, you know, he did seem like he did seem to have a connection with her surprise. Honestly that Simon letter do it because that motherfucker seem very controlling, but you know, to to dump someone like, you know, in have your friend, tell tell exclusively to whatever that fucking radio CD dot com, or whatever that was called. Like, your friend be like, yo. Yeah. He was trying to bring over there for months. It was like a difference in personality, dude. Like dumps are. They don't talk for years. And he's like, hey, do you wanna come in read for this await? You're actually really good. Like, do you want a job for me? Do you wanna do my job for me? Like, that's how I it. It's. Four and I'm very easily scam. So I'm sensitive. Nobody ashen is the guy that is like so like, I don't think ashen is even the person who tries to hide the scamming people, but he doesn't have to because again, he's charming funny and Q and goofy. And like he can be very blatant honest about the fact that he's using you. But like you're so happy to be around him that you don't care. I think he's that person. He definitely I mean like who like first of all he didn't talk to her for years. Like you said, and then he blew and says, hey, I want you to be in this thing and help Cassidy fucking shit. Let's be real like her reputation wasn't great at that time. And I someone like that. And I look at Ashton on my dude, you should've spoken up that day had Twitter, usually I just met with Britney. Murphy the girls still got it. Yeah. Like, no. And now he's speeds speaks of her retrospectively any tells this anecdote about how good she was at. And it's like, no, dude. Like, you had the opportunity to change that dialogue about her that day, you know, like the with Zanan Lindsey fucked it up or whatever. If you have the option to change the dialogue around the person that's been wronged like you have no rights speaking about them when they die. If you don't do it. Like this guy did not try with every so true. He let her drown for years. Yeah. I do. And you know, I I mean, honestly, like, listen, no one is to blame for someone's like on a level like this. He is not necessarily to blame. Her downfall. Justin Timberlake is not to blame for her downfall. But I do think with a lot of people. You can see a very very hurtful rake up, especially when that started with the laws that they had because I'm selling like, it was it was his comedy central thing. I want yesterday in prep for this. That was hosted Mario can tone. I forgot that they did this. But they would have like the stars of a movie on. It'd be like a full half hour interview. Like kind of inbetween small clips of the movie. So like, you are really sort of selling the actors on the like, the this was a good way to sell a movie, and this is the way they should have done it. So they did a great job with it in Ashton in Brittany were very in love during the promotion because this is like when she got back from the movie, and they became a couple end like to see them just the way they are is like it's almost like that's what I meant by Ono like for the person who doesn't go on to do bigger and better things necessarily in the break-up. Like, there's there's that formative relationship almost everyone's life, and we got two very public- that with Britney, and Justin we got very publicly see that. Who else was I gang like there? I have examples, but let might launched were like, Nick. And Jessica like she owning. Meanwhile, one person takes off in the other person sort of likes stays where they were. Can't really grow pass it. It does seem to be too in my mind that sort of love can spark like the course of person's life. You know, he had his own studio. Rookie was developing stuff for years, the lake you know, definitely had pilots and stuff. Like, she's a phenomenally talented actress leg why why bring her into a room of all times. Now when she is married annual married like now, you can have a professional relationship with her like he had the he he was somebody who had the power to really help make help change the public's perception of her. Gee was and yeah. Yeah. And I think that like that's also kinda ties back to January Jones of it all for me where it's like what is up with that? Like what's up with that, man? You know, it's one thing to be like a good businessman. It's another thing to be a good businessman who isn't like generous to people were kind to him like or. Like the opposite. Brittany Murphy doing wall as no threat to ask you career in any way. Also on the on the on the opposite end. It's like actually could your generous on very public scale. Like, he's the kind of he's the person that if he is doing something like when him and demean, but like do things for charity. They were the ones that would go on Oprah and tell open that they were doing something for charity like they number. You know, what I mean like he was always the person of a lot of. There's like conspiracies out there about his his sex trafficking. Thing. What's it called Thorne? Artist pager on only I mean, this is all like, by the way, none of this is stuff from anyone in the injured payment industry in any capacity. This is from like people that are like, you know, have too much time on their hands inside to make a YouTube video because they investigated a charity probably because they have some sort of weird relationship was sex trafficking themselves. So all of that said, you know, there's just a few things where it kind of disappoints me as a person, and I feel like, you know, Britney when she was at the end of her career, the movie were she did Simon Monge acted her make up for it. Because at one point she like that was in the deal like they couldn't afford hair and make up if they wanted to pay her, and so he would come along as their hair and makeup artist. But like, she, you know, had people like many driver was in that movie many drive, right? A lot of really nice things to say about her at that time. But in a weird way, it's like she didn't really have. And I think it was because the problem didn't really. Exist. A lot of these people were laying are saying that she had so people it felt odd maybe to stand up for her. But like, you know, Britney Spears Lindsay Lohan, they've always had people in their corner in Hollywood will be like, you know, what like that's a fucking talented young girl. You know, she's maybe offered a little bit. But like at her heart. She's a good person. Like people didn't really talk about Britney like that when she was alive and in reality lay she was known to have like amazing etiquette on film. Sadly, she never got an ego around her Hughes. Always like that person when they were at their level like people onset were shocked that she was so nice like she would come up and introduce yourself to everyone. You know that really is a lot about who. She is. I wish more people had stood up her in her life. You know? I it an article I won't remember what it wasn't a hate one do this. But I did read an article that Brittany. Murphy was the quintessential person born in the wrong time. And she just you know. To think of what her career could have been if she was like say the age that she was during this time like two thousand one like now. Yeah. The conversation around women is much different. Like, she just wasn't meant same thing with Britney Spears. I mean, who's the same with the world would have been but like an Anna, Nicole. It's just women that like like they got thoughts during a time when we were just mentally trying to annihilate women like we and like women were doing it and men were doing the we all collectively were just like any famous woman. We want to literally like Salem witch them. We want him like build them up make them fill. Amazing. Celebrate them, and then tear them the fuck down like. In that way, anymore and interesting to think of her in present day, just in the sense that like I don't think I think that they were as much as like, you know, Hollywood is supposedly got better at female roles over the years the way that Britney wasn't a movie like it almost felt like it was written for her. In in everyone else was built around her like that's a good. She was getting into the material. And honestly, I have to say I don't think she could ever have the same career. She had again, I think that if she was alive now in the age, she was when she I don't think that she would be able to. I don't think there will be enough meat for really sinker teeth into their making less movies, by the way, she is a movie star, but you can put her in a show, but she's a she's a movie star at I just don't think that like they really make them the way that they did when she was a star. I really don't she did think about how many John rose she crossed in. She was never really pegged in one space. This is a girl who did horror. She drama should rom coms. She had really high camp stuff drought. Gorgeous in clueless. But like, you know, also like Indies, I mean, this I really do think in blockbusters like since soon city like this this this woman her careers fucking phenomenal. I don't. I don't think it has been duplicated. And I don't think it will be like, I think she had much more range than Li Jennifer Lawrence, for example, is considered one of the better young actresses of our generation. She no one from the clueless test can do anything that touches her say Donald phase on also had a really long lengthy wonderful career. But really like she was the only one from that cast that made made a he really like long wash. He really launched. Why radically I will say to like the like the other side of what I was saying. Like, a, you know, those are all women who career-wise league not really so much like media wise, but like what they did in the careers. What they were able to accomplish. Only would've worked during the time that they were famous really like they lend themselves so well to that really two thousand of aesthetic like any britney's career was hold the entire thing was based on shock, right? Like that became the formula for her performances in just to keep shocking people, and like what could Britney Spears really do. Now, what can any pops are due? Now, that's really considered shocking for more than like, ten minutes. It just has a very similar career as Britney is Rachel mcadams. Yeah. That's true. That's. Yeah. Being and Rachel mcadams. They think is a little bit more naturally suited for rom coms. I don't know why I think maybe it might be just like a combination of how mold Ables she is like Britney to me was not she's a character. Actress she's not someone that shit. You change your hair? She becomes a new person in my mind, like Rachel mcadams is like that. Right. Never done that like she should have. I wish more than anything. If I could go back in time. And like Kelleher her you don't like don't ever try be anything. Then what you are. Now, you know, don't change your body. Don't change your hair because that is that's where all fucking went downhill like when she stopped looking like herself, you know, and get another thing. Also with the climate is that she was also really thrown into. That kooky category because she was having a she was having issues this time that Nicole in Paris, Nicole inlands, you're when. So like all of a sudden might just because you have what appears to be an eating disorder. You're being grouped in on like us weekly page of scary skinny stars in. The brain's natural conclusion is to be like, oh, they're all the same right? Oh my God. You're so right. I didn't think about that. And Mike, they're not this name like Britney was not getting to you is, you know, or, you know, she's not the same. She was a person in Hollywood who had a fucking eating disorder. You know? You know, I think that like, you know, people especially people like you meet who really are like hip to keep track of it. When feel like it's like part of history to us like most people don't do that. Like the way that we do it. Most people think very simply about this take it at face value. What they see is what it is. And so the Brittany Murphy aligned in any way with girls like that at that time who were just they were messes. It was really unfair and like sort of like a lazy editorial technique, Mike sort of just like a lazy emotional assignment just being like, okay. Like do a gallery on that do to anorexic band TV movie awards that that's like honestly, really what this? That's like weirdly auto Nola, how became that. But that's like in a weird way with this podcast has become for me is just trying to like in by small way. Like new narrative to people that I feel like they just don't really think deeply about and the have like all of this. I don't know there's so much more story to tell what somebody like Britney, Murph your house or does people like that that it's like, oh, you know, you might house was drunk in an alcoholic and anorexic and she died. It's like there's a little bit more in going. Any? No that thing is is that that's really like when I was doing BP. That's what I loved about. It was because I feel like I feel like people lack a lot of empathy towards other people. And that's like not this isn't a huge development like eating people really do lack a lot of empathy. And you know, I think that like for some people like just giving them a like, you know, like a challenge on their perspective is really fucking important. Like right now that girl Caroline Calloway, or whatever that blogger girl like is getting fucking swam d- over, you know, poorly planning workshops in people are gonna scam or on my first of all this is hardly a scam. They did the match she was maybe gonna make eight hundred dollars off this tour. If there wasn't any like hikes in in flight fees, or hotel rooms, I mean, the most you could have made eight hundred dollars. I don't think that's a long con-. I'll be on. With you. That sounds like a fucking person with rose colored glasses on thinking that they can do something that normally it takes an entire event planning team to pull off. The like, you know, it's it's it's just like it's so interesting to me like, you know, people really like to fuck in bandwagon on that. Like, it's like y'all are you like are you legit upset about scammers? Because if you wanna talk about scammers lake let's fuck in start with all the other people like because like literally like any single bitch out there who's selling like thrive or Amway or Lou raw fucking fit. You help me. Is more disruptive okays? Oh, so guess what? A bunch of suck in white girls who have a hundred sixty five dollars to spend got disappointed while I'm gonna go and tell you something like she's not like this girl. Caroline, Calloway, not ripping off people that can't afford it. She's not promising a new life. She literally was like, I'm twenty seven. Do you want me to life advice? They'll give you a jar. Like literally like that is what it does. That's what it was. I don't feel bad for anyone who lost one hundred sixty five dollars on that. But people like the fucking dog Kyle people and people to really like assume another person's intentions and like got think past the bag that needy. There's a little bit deeper there. Maybe it's not insidious. Maybe it's not, you know, maybe like, you know, maybe the personnel of worst plan. They dropped the ball. Like who knows? But very people to just take stuff at face value so often, and I feel like we are seeing more of that get really was impressed, by the way, the majority of the people that in my echo chamber n. Anyway, handled like the Christian Blasi Ford thing, you know, like there is ago if people that agreed with her what have been taken potshots on social media because we were all into shock humor in stuff. Like that. We've gotten a lot nicer like as a community in terms of just like really empathizing being like, of course, she's nervous. Of course. She's this. Of course, she's that like back, then if you act right like I mean back than like eight years ago if you didn't fucking act, right leg. And I did I do think just sort of like also the other way that we've all changed a lot. I love this tweet. Mike Scully from the Simpsons tweeted this, and I quoted all the time. But he was I do you remember when Al Gore rolled his eyes during the debate. And we were all shocked at how horribly undignified. You know what I mean? Insulate. That's the kind of thing that was frontline news as someone beat a fucking I roll during a thing that was opposed to be a president of formal occasion. If there was supposed to be someone that we looked up to how dare you roll on. I right now, we live in a fucking circus. Now, like, you know, Jennifer Lawrence is like openly talking about when she gets blackout drunk. She turns into this other character like it's just people are allowed to talk in a different way. Poor Brittany Murphy's over here being like, no never done mess. You know? So really good about my dress tonight. Thank you. I giggle e like why you know with five deserve that. It's just so bizarre to me people are so fucking wack. You know, true feeling are so wack. It's like, it's I just feel you know, I feel like it's really important to like examine things. I try to always do that whenever mad at someone or anything else. Always like, wait. What's the other side of this like what could be the other way that they're interpreting this why like why would you do that? If you were them, you know, and like that's really important to like think about that way. You know, just to think about it for more than one minute and then served fucking tweeting. It's a calm the fuck down right thinking that like like you. It's your responsibility to punish people that you think of done something wrong. Like, if they think that there's like there's also millions of other people that just happen to feel the same way. And it's like, you don't even just stop and take a few minutes to like assess the situation and not band. I hate bandwagon shit. I hate it. I hate it. I'm not going to be a hypocrite. Like, I'll be real like, I will absolutely tweet split-second reaction. Like if something happens occurred Ashi in four buckets shore. If like, you must've sending stupid, I will tweet my gut reaction, but I I always do try to if I read more find out differently correct myself publicly and be like, you know, I, you know, I thought about it this way or whatever as being of that Twitter's early Alex shut the fuck up. But like, I'm just seeing a lot of this. I feel inspired on it. Like, there was this thing that thread today that was going around the most embarrassing questions that have been asked by journalists or whatever in or at a queue in a and this this girl was this guy said like he was at this event where this author who wrote what is it called Helen nation. He was. Me me, look it up. So basically, it's a book that was written kind of an immersive journalism experience in this one woman showed up to the Q and A, and she was kind of in disguise. I guess she asked the normal question in the answer end. She sort of revealed herself to be this person was like, hey, like, I'm actually also here to confront you about like what the fuck you wrote in your book about me. I'm like, I'm pissed and he was like, ma'am, you sign the release, ma'am, you signed the release and like she was out in the guys who is related in the story as God, she was such a psychopath. And I'm sitting there being like, I actually think that that was an Aiken that was the move. This guy is not answering your phone calls. I'm sure he's not answering or emails. I'm sure the literary agent is hanging up on her when she calls that was brilliant. And sorry Santa someone just saying when people are like will you sign the release. It's like, well, listen bitch, just sign the release doesn't mean that you own my soul. I can't be upset about what you did with anying lady signing an NDA or release does not mean that you're cool with something happening. So I I don't know like it was weird to me. 'cause I was like God. Like, why are you calling women root for trying to stand up herself? You know, like this is like there's people on your talking about, you know, reporters asking coal Kidman, if it's Ben long enough. And if she's ready to talk about her miscarriage amongst stories like that, you think that this woman was a psycho to me. It sounds like the authors fucking psycho because he's like sorry lady. Like, you know, what I'm fucking check sign. Okay. The check is cleared like Joe release the Helms. Out. Yeah. So I dunno. I just like I overall one of the reasons I love this podcast. I love you. And your brain is that you are someone that keeps an open minds, and like really wants to you know, you very generous heart a love your brain. And I'm really glad that you do this podcast. Will I'm glad that you like are the reason during this gas like honestly. You are the resign because the motherfucker that responded to me on Snapchat. Yo and Liz are the two out of thousands that I was like these are my fucking people, my friend marriages you, but I don't know if I'm giving a marriage podcast. But you have this voice that just rings clear in your pleasure. Listen, Jill, and you know, that everyone tells you all the time. But like, you know, I was I was I one of the first people that really saw that short. You sure. Okay. Well, I mean, like, I'm really happy that we did this. I could not have done it alone. And I love you. And I can't wait we're gonna I mean, eventually we're going to talk about Britney and Simon do you do that sometime next week? I do that whenever I also really want to do stand jocks on my legislative in front of the audio. Yes, we're if you've made it this far patriotic people were doing that. That's the thing. And I'm so fuck I've so many things to say, especially now, we're on me only opposite end of they are both on you know, starchy almost being engaged yourself. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. I will say since we are floating this. Now, you guys have like I like a week to DM either. One of us any Simon mon- Jackie you have. Couple of weeks to DM any shots. Jacks to you have Vander, pumpkin. General. We will not cite you as a source that we will viewing Igli conversation say allegedly a lot so. Yeah. Sorry, you call to action on your podcast. That's neat. Because I said earlier that's a blind spot for me. It's like all I know about that is like what I've read in like us weekly. You know, what I mean, I would love to know like some inside shit. So if you know and this conspiracy in it's fun to your other people's like, you know, conspiracy theories as far as something like that will never actually probably know the answers to here the best babe, you're the best. Thank you so much doing this. I love you so much and also by the way, by the way, just saying this was a much better episode than what we did yesterday of saying. I agree. I. Like, yeah. Like, it's interesting. Because like, I I didn't wanna I just wanna make sure I don't shit on nothing. Like, I now, I know how you do it the same. But I've never been inside the reporting. Being here. Now feels good does good and proud of you. And and I'm going to immediately when we're done with us and talk about how tired I am. Okay. Blue. I love you. By. Thank you for listening to this mushroom and emotionally broken psychos. Patriotic exclusive please make sure to head over to apple podcasts. And subscribe bring in review it really helps. You boy also make sure to head over to paint, John dot com slash psychos. For more information on this show and other patriotic content. You can follow me on Twitter at Troy mckee's. That's T R Y M C. You can also follow this podcast at EDP underscores mushroom. Thank you to executive producer. Molly McClure and dating producer. Nicole, matthew.

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ep 78: Its 8 Mile meets Fame (with Heather Farver!)

So it's a show?: keeping up with the Gilmore Girls

56:00 min | 5 months ago

ep 78: Its 8 Mile meets Fame (with Heather Farver!)

"Hello my name is Taylor and I'm here to say I can't rap so I won't want war. How many people do you think looked at our episode title thought Ono? These girls are going to try and wrap last week. They did impressions of the Godfather. What is GonNa Happen this week? Well guess what. We're not GONNA do that because we can't and we should and it would be really bad so you're welcome. We are definitely a singing podcast. But I guess we're not wrapping one. Yeah well we don't see either. Remember we never said Yeah. That's been our promise that we've not kept. Yeah but I am name Taylor in. I am here to say this is so it's a show podcast. Were we attempt to keep up? With Lord Landry's pop culture references on Gilmore girls and I'm Kyla and I'm also here to say yeah I'm not GonNa try to wrap your right. I thought about it. We all thought about it. I mean that's just part of the deal right. Yeah when you know you're going to do something related to wrap you just WanNa rap about it and then you realize bad idea but listen recognized that before it's too late well. Should we just dive in and then teaser and a few minutes? We'll be talking to a special guest. Yeah so the episode of Gilmore. Girls were talking about today is Gilmore girls four zero eight dig- jerk. Rip Likability her most likeable episode. This episode originally aired November Eleventh. Two Thousand and three and the plot summary. This is another novel so get ready after receiving advice from the Yield Daily News Editor Aka. Doyle on what he is looking for worries next. Article is a huge hit with everybody except the dancer. She reviewed Richard and Emily Return from their Atlantic city. Business trip while lane is told the Senate special jug to Dave in California marriage. Doug Hashtag Marriage Jug. Laura like in France Luke about his relationship with Nicole and Bruce Confronts Laura lie in her anti midwife energy on retarding the baby's acquisition rate hard. They covered everything. I know it feels like we. There's no happy medium like we either get one sentence or we get all the way down to bruce being mad at lower life for her. Anti Midwife Yeah which is like the plot. I don't know yeah those pretty indepth. Yes we're actually going to be talking about the plot today. We have stopped after the first sentence. So Yeah Roy writes that mean. Article Calls Welsh's and call the dancer. Hippo she compares her she was really out what was that. It was really a criticism of the costumer. Yes So she wants wants to do over to be a little nicer and She tries to sell it to oil for your views. Great people still talking about it. That's pretty rare. Okay okay. What about just a general interest article on the lead Ballerina. She the hippo. No no she is an accomplished dancer and her life is quite fascinating. Did you know that she studied dance for fourteen years and has performed in Miami Miami? That's pretty big Miami. She almost got into juilliard interesting. Either no but these are simply background facts of fascinating personal journey a personal journey of an artist struggling against different an indifferent society. Dancing as fast as you can. And and what? It's eight mile meets fame. We've already covered fame. So that's why we decided well young we can get this reference easy. It is the most recent reference we've ever done. I mean this is compared to so many other things we talk about. I mean Eminem is still making music today Wa wa Hashtag relevant Hashtag. Here's at the Oscars a couple months ago. Fun Fact Teaser for our next episode. I'm going to vaguely give both episodes coming out back to back in. May are about to thousands movies that were tangentially related to this year's Oscars ceremony. How Taylor in get excited excited for this episode in the next? I don't know what will so we rebroadcast our fame episode last week so that you guys could definitely be prepared for this episode because we're covering eight mile. Yeah everyone's mom and dad's favorite movie. Absolutely if they don't love it for the profanity they'll love it for the violence. Oh yes Exactly the Movie I know my parents wish they would have shown me back in two thousand two although I think you're overselling the violence. There's not that much for a movie that you might expect. Yeah unnecessary just extra trill. It off field. The whole movie felt very confrontational to me. That's fair so eight mile it's about V. Rabbit trying to make it in the wrapping world of Detroit. But guess what he lives on one side of town and the all the other rappers live on the other side and he's not super welcome but he has friends who believe in them and help them get to the top of the Detroit wrapping world. Yeah and we opened up. We start the movie. He is supposed to be taking the MIC on Supposed to be showing off his lyrical prowess and he kinda seem psyching himself up grungy bathroom and then he gets out there and he just jokes. Yeah that was. That was sad. I fought for him. Yeah we've all had our moments in front of a crowd where we completely bomb now. I've never been in like I said I can't rap so I've never been in that particular scenario. But yes and then he throws up his mom. Spaghetti Hashtag foreshadowing and then you find out that his girlfriend is pregnant and they broke up but he left her the car and now he has no place to live so he goes back to go to his mom's trailer where she lives with her abusive boyfriend walks in on them having a good time which is really uncomfortable. If that's your mom. Also not mom and I was really uncomfortable. And he gets to move in to the Chagrin of his mom's boyfriend for writing boyfriend who keeps saying his settlement checks coming in soon and his six year. Old Sister Yeah really on something like that. And he has a job at a car manufacturing plant and the thing that stuck out to me about. This movie is literally everywhere he goes. There is a rap battle to be had her real on the lunch break at work with his friends in these rap battle places in the park. I know I'm not that. Yeah exactly I know. I'm not that cool. But just like. How does he keep finding these places? Maybe this is a normal thing for cool people to just like happen upon a rap battle but I have never ever done it my entire life your style is generic minds authentic may a roll like a renegade unique clinic gain my techniques bizarre. New scarring kill. You were a star until I served you like a bar and grill to cook and Grill. That's all it took to kill. You better recognize me like I look familiar battle. You beat also nineties. I Dunno people were out more. I mean compared to now but also yes not to today specifically in general yes the movie is set in nineteen ninety five in yes so b rabbit is trying to find his way but he keeps saying he's not going to battle again. He's not ready in his so his friend group was interesting. He had like the idiot friend. Who Shot himself in the leg because it should run on his pants Did Not put the safety on. And he has friends who one friend trying to get him into the Detroit rap scene and other friend promising him we can record a demo and send it off to these people but he was not legit in ways that I didn't actually fully understand. I didn't either honestly. Yeah but I will get to it but I got the sense in the end it was more. Just be rabbit or his birth name. Jimmy learning he kind of has to learn to do things on his own and not rely on other people. Yeah Yeah I agree. Got Another love interest Brittany Murphy and she was not very stable either Their religion was very up and down. I didn't really ever feel like they were together. They were just would be physically involved and then and then all of a sudden she's hooking up with the guy who promises him a demo in V. recording studio of all places. Yeah at which I know be. Rabbit was about to come by. So that seems well-thought-out. Yeah so he said how. There are a lot of rattle opportunities but also it seems like every scene war was about these friends confronting each other unlike telling each other the hard truths about like every time like is this. What male relationships are you? Just tell each other hard truths every time you need up. They weren't very kind term. A lot of them were just straight up in but they felt like they were always saying well. You always do this like they. They felt like they were truthful. I Dunno it didn't feel like I'm just trying to insult you felt like I'm going to tell you about yourself and yeah I guess it's an insult but it's like I don't know I'll just very confrontation talk. We need to get fat rides. No we need to do is put our money. Savings bonds. Know what we need to get a song. J. O. B. All of us. Nothing about nothing was still broke. The liberal Hollywood. Our MOMS Mattia Kit. You guys later and I mean they also spend time burning down houses. There was a girl who got assaulted in an abandoned house so they just decided to take it upon themselves to burn down that house so nobody else is assaulted there. I don't know if that's the most ethical way to handle it but I'm glad that they are concerned about this and WanNa try and fix that situation. They also go joyriding with some paintball guns. Yes and fun fact. That is a real cow on eight mile. You assume they have cleaned up the paint since then but there is a big cow head on top of a restaurant that with a paintball. I love when there's like giant ice cream cone or giant Donut outside a restaurant. Well you just love donut. He loves donuts everything. Yeah I've got a giant donut pillow sitting behind me But eventually he does make it be. Rabbit makes it to the battle. He decides. He's going to do it and he rips the other guy apart. That was a scene that I had seen before. Those the only scene from the movie that I've ever watched because it showed up on youtube and he is an awesome job. Basically raps about all the insults that this other guy could throw at him so taking away all of his opponents options. Private is real. Aw Aw so the other guy ends up doing exactly what Eminem did in the beginning and choking 'cause he took away all his material which I thought was a pretty ingenious move that's pretty boss like yeah owning the fact that you know you're kind of a loser to everybody else and instead of trying to hide it were ignored it or be ashamed of it. He's just like this is who I am. This is my story not all of. It's great but it's me. Yeah Yeah and and then you just kind of assume that he makes it big end spoiler alert the real life. Eminem does yeah sure does and even his mom makes it out. Okay she ends up winning. Bingo after her abusive boyfriend leaves her uh-huh and she kind of for a moment seems like she's like you know what I'm going to be self sufficient. I feel like that was kind of the big idea of the movie being self sufficient instead of waiting for other people to come around and give you opportunities. He's like I'm not going to record the demo. I'M GONNA do my own thing. I'M GONNA record my own. Yeah Yeah so. We decided to bring on a self-proclaimed EMINEM expert my friend. Heather Hello Heather. Hey so you're gonNA tell us way more than we were able to find out in the time that were researching for this episode. But hopefully we. I don't know maybe we'll teach you something. Maybe that'll be the goal of this. We can tell you one thing. You didn't know yeah. That'd be awesome cool. So let's see where we begin. Taylor well I I just since I am meeting you for the first time I just wanted to get a sense of Tommy about eminem and your love for him. And how's that began? What what the. What is your draw to him so. I really liked eminem back when MTV had like their when they sell you know had music videos or whatever this shady LP. I mean. I remember watching Jean. My name is and like I was like okay. Whatever and then guilty conscience. I really like that song. But I wasn't like a huge fan. I just really liked the music and like the videos and stuff and then when the map the Marshall Mathers Lp came out the way. I am really spoke to me but I the real slim shady was kind of like what made me a fan. I remember my friend Missy and I like we would like sit her house and like like listen to his music and like trying to memorize the lyrics but when the EMINEM show came out. That's what made me a Stan. I guess like an because I mean in the Marshall mathers. Lp like obviously the Song Stan. I like that song too but like when that one came out when the EMINEM show came out. That made me Stan and it was his song. sing for the moment. That really resonated with me. Because he was talking about like you know just people who are like listening to our songs lyrics just delight help them get through some soft and like I've always struggled with depression and mental illness and stuff like that and so like it really resonated with me. Justice talked about like his dad leaving which also I resonated with so. I think that's really where I became like a huge fan of him and like a stan and then every album after that basically loved except for relapse island was like kind of like a but I mean I've seen in my concert. Yeah I mean. I've seen him in concert five times. He's like my favorite person and his lyrics. I mean he could like just seeing the ABC's and I probably would like it to be honest. That's kind of yeah. It was just like his lyrics and under in really into them. I guess that like really made me like a huge fan and at the time were there other artists who were covering the same the same issues mental illness and things but not as honestly or was he kind of unique in that at the time I feel like he was unique in that because I did not know of any other artists covering that. Yeah because even now people struggled a talk about those things so that he was doing that you know how many years ago ten years ago. Oh this is two thousand two could be that many years ago eighteen years ago. Oh Jeez and then you also you have a couple of eminem tattoos don't you? I have one yes. I have one yet so ribcage. I have lyrics from now. They're afraid which is says. Just letting you know you're not alone. And then has his name next to it so I had a friend who committed suicide back in two thousand twelve. No Two thousand eleven And so I got those so I got those lyrics Benami her obviously tattooed on me but that song also was like a a song that really like it spoke to me just because again like I've struggled with so much And he was talking about his addiction all that because supposedly he is struggling bipolar disorder and stuff like that throughout his entire life so again those lyrics is like it's a constant reminder like when I see him like you're not alone like you'd get through this you can do. You can make it through the yeah so and it seems like at like at the time when he was first coming out and he was like the bad boy and yet what parents were. Don't listen to Eminem you know. Were shouting those messages. But I don't know I think maybe they just weren't looking at what he was really saying because he had some of those funny like goofy irreverent lyrics but also some really real stuff. So yeah I mean like my parents didn't really know I was listening to him. I remember I remember my grandma one time. We're in hurling minivan and I had the I had one of his CDs in her like CD player. 'cause I plug my headphones into a Jack in the back and listen to his music and she can listen to music like wherever she wanted to listen to and she decided like for some reason to like turn that off and like listen to it like in the van and she got she immediately pulled the CD out because she realized what I was listening to was so mad at me. And I'm like but I love him like you don't understand. Yeah I definitely remember back in the day. I think it was also just the general profanity. Not even the subject matter he was discussing it was just like at the time. I feel like he and fifty cent were the two that parents in my circle. Where like those are the bad ones? Don't listen to Him. Yeah. I didn't even know who fifty cent was. Pretty who doesn't know who fifty cent is. Well I mean when I was when Eminem was out I knew about EMINEM. But not fifty cents Gotcha. Is that still bad? No I mean not bad so I guess should we get eight mile? Yes sure heather. How many times have you seen this movie? Probably I actually. I don't watch it often. I've probably seen it like twenty times. Maybe hey have you seen it. This is one that I had always been curious about. I think because I thought it was very by biographical of Eminem but it actually is a lot of differences so I realized after I watched that. No it's not just his life but there's a similarity Quick overview of the movie for people who are not familiar this movie came out in two thousand and two it stars Eminem Brittany Murphy can basing her anthony Mackie making his debut film debut and he is no now in the marvel movie. So that's a pretty big change and Michael Shannon also in it it went on to win best original song at the Oscars which is somewhat timely. Because came up at the Oscars again this year. It was the number twenty three highest grossing movie of Two Thousand and two. Actually that Song Is Pretty. Well regarded in the movie itself. I did a little digging and I think in my head. I just kind of assumed critically. It wasn't accepted because it was about the life of a pop star. I mean I know. He's a rapper. But like kind of those very famous people a lot of times. Those movies are pretty critically planned like Britney Spears or remember when we talked about glitter Marine yeah actually. It was pretty. Well received the American Film Institute Calls At that Number Ninety three best movie song for Lose Yourself and had pretty good review showed up in a lot of top ten list at the end of the year. Yeah so a lot of people actually really liked this movie when it came out. Yeah you're right. That is surprising cause like Mariah Carey's glitter and other movies like that where it's basically. I'm a musician and now I'd like a movie. Please don't tend to go very well but this one's probably a little more thoughtful awfully made. Yes if you'd like to see the opposite end of the spectrum. I highly recommend cool as ice. The Vanilla ice movie from the early nineties. It is so bad I could not see that I have not what. What is that exactly what. It is an early nineties feature films starring Vanilla ice in which he plays a loose version of himself and it is so bad so bad but so good. This story from home alone is his love interest in it and at one point in the movie he sneaks into her house and wakes up by dropping an ice cube in her mouth. I just want you to know that happens. Oh my wow. It's a treat. This is not that movie yet. This I enjoyed it. I would say it's probably not one that I'm GonNa Watch twenty time. I liked it. I was fully entertained. What about you to honestly? It was a little disappointed. I kept waiting for him to sing. Lose yourself and it doesn't happen. They kept I were on the movie score. And then nope you don't even get to see them seeing it. I was a little disappointed. Yes I mean you get to see him right it though like why is like on the bus or whatever like when he's like thinking about it like you get to see the part of it and then obviously they put a music video bother so true. I actually have not seen the music video. Why didn't I do that? I didn't even think to me that they're I didn't spend enough time watching MTV music videos growing up so I looked into ways of this was like his real life. Eminem's real life and how it was different to how they're you mentioned about. We saw him right out right the song and it was on like little scraps of paper while his on the bus and just any downtime and he said that was true that was how he really would right just any little bit of paper and he would write down more like phrases and then piecing together later so. I thought that was a cool way to make it feel more true. Something I wouldn't have thought of I would have just been like give them a notebook but the little scraps were mortuary what he would do. He had lived in trailers before he didn't grow up in one. I know is the house where he actually grew up. is famous. It was on one of his albums right. Yeah the Jasmine Home. So they actually demolished it and when they did they were selling the bricks from the house and I mean they're pretty expensive but like I went online to try to buy one but they were already sold out and I was so mad cow. Oh I'm going for. They were going for like a couple of hundred dollars for a single brick from the house and who was selling those. It wasn't really bad condition. I'm not sure who was actually selling them. Actually no I think it was. It was supposed to go to like his foundation or something. The Rosie's it from what I remember. Yeah that would've been awesome. Food gotten a break up around but respect that you tried and then he really does have a longtime friend named proof that his real life proof is more like future who is played by Mickey Pfeiffer. Is THAT ICING MATAI FOR MCI Pfeiffer? Thank you heather. And he said that proof was the one who kind of got him into the rap world in Detroit. What did he say? I don't know if this is politically correct to say. But proof was my ghetto pass so he would handle the Mike. It'd be like you should listen to this guy. And that's how he was able so that was really similar to the future character other similarities. The MOM character similar to eminem's real mom the same kind of struggled and criticisms that he sings about on his albums his little sister. Lily in the movie is the same age as his daughter Hayley. So that was how similar and different jobs just like in. The movie took me a while to realize in the movie that that was not his daughter. Because I knew in real life he had a daughter so I'm glad they made that clear at some point. Yeah Yeah I thought that I we saw then they clear that up quickly and then he really did battle in Detroit and he said the stakes were really high. It was like winning the championship in basketball. Really intense if he lost he felt like his life was crumbling but he said the movie really took him back to that time and place in his life. He's like he said it strip me of all ego before I was a man and before it was anybody but then the differences Cheddar Bob was a real life friend but he was not a complete more. Did Not shoot himself. I my literally dropped open at that moment. I was so shocked that Cheddar. Bob Accidentally shot himself. That was a crazy moment. I'd even realize that he was actually like a friend but was not that big of a moron to be on this. I didn't even know about that. Okay we you something. Teach me something. Yeah but when he put that gun back in his pants I was just like now. You didn't put the safety on did you. Yeah and then so this movie took place in was supposed to take place in nineteen ninety five but or nineteen ninety. I think ninety five. Yeah Ninety five okay. Numminen was famous by that time. So ninety five in said he he he released Oudlay your later in ninety six. Yes so he would have been already working yes so his first album. Infinite was like a flop. He'd actually become famous in nineteen ninety nine until nineteen ninety nine when the slim shady LP came out which was produced by Dr Dre. Oh that's pretty good connection to have I can see where you'd have a little more success with that. Yeah true to help you out and then in real life baby. Marshall did have figures but family didn't call rabbit. They call them. Nikki guys are teaching me stuff and then for the character. Eminem did cover all of his own tattoos. Probably that it wouldn't feel like it was just eminem plane himself but also how explain how he had that much money to afford all that ink because true expensive gas so those were the similarities and differences? I found while I wanted to do a little bit of geographical research to complement this biographical research. I am not familiar with Detroit geography. Unlike probably many people like heather who are much more familiar with eminem eight mile road definitely real road and thanks to the Detroit. Historical Society. Now know that it started as a road back in the nineteen twenties. This thing has been around forever Now it's huge started as a dirt road. Now it's eight lanes twenty miles and it's about eight miles from the shore which is where it gets. His nickname didn't know that. So that was your geographical little tidbit for the day. And also that is not why it's important though that it's eight miles from the shore. According to the Detroit Historical Website. They were saying this is a physical dividing line but also a psychological one. This is kind of where cultures change from one side of the city to the other men especially from white to African American so now. It's not as stark difference of where different people have different races live. Now it's not as divided by that road but it's still kind of has that reputation and it's definite associated with that defacto segregation especially because also in the nineteen seventies. There was a mayor that made some really insensitive comments about talking about how people on eight Mile Road were involved with crime and there was just a lot of negative reaction to that. And there's just been kind of a history of that frustration there though now. It's still a really busy road. A lot of people use it but it is also. There is a lot of crime on that street. You can find prostitutes in strip clubs and junkies. They're all the time according to this website. So this mayor I think there is a reason they said at the same time was just done so insensitively and totally just with no understanding of how people feel about that and of course now. This road is famous. Thanks to Eminem and he did live right by there so apparently they filmed right around there and there is also a map. All share in our tumbler. You can find a lot of the places that this movie was filmed because a lot of it really was filmed on eight mile and in nearby Detroit areas. That's cool have you been you like gone and tried to find some of the sites of the movie? I have not. I mean every time I like go to Detroit I definitely take pictures of the sign that says like get off at eight mile but I have not actually gone Ligament stand but like. I'm usually up there for work or something like that so yeah I don't want go look for stuff but I mean I've thought about like before. They demolished the Jasmine House. Which is where he grew up. I've definitely thought about like visiting that. Which I now regret not doing but yeah I mean I haven't gone and looked at like eight mile or anything like that. Gotcha well and I mean the last few times. I've been in Detroit. I've been in the pretty downtown Ford Theater. I think it's called the hockey stadium but then I've also been to the other side where homes are kept together with plywood and Intel just random scraps of material. It's it's I don't know it's it's everything I've anything I've seen as far as like how quickly you're in the wealthy side of town. The absolutely poor desolate side of town yearly strange. Yeah it's crazy I mean I I know they Detroit is doing. They're doing other there. They're GONNA turn around. I mean I don't know actually with this Kobe. Nineteen they're being affected. Really bad over there but yeah I did see that. Eminem did get some MOMS Spaghetti delivered to Detroit Hospital. Yes did Henry Ford Yeah I was actually so I was so sad not upset so back in December of two thousand seventeen. He pop up of like Mom's Spaghetti and you could like go to the shelter and meet him just like C. Andrews Hall and like get some of his mom's Spaghetti but obviously I have a six year old daughter so I couldn't just like randomly like make a trip up to Detroit to do that But like and he's also done that pop up at like Festivals and stuff like that like Coachella but hear him like donating that to the hospitals and his amazing And he really. I mean the fact that he he I mean he grew up in Detroit he stays in Detroit he continues give back is like I think is amazing so he has such a connection to that place. And it's it's kind of surprising because it he didn't live a very good life there for a long time so I wonder if it's he wants to try to invest to make it better for the next generation or just wonder what his reasoning is for for going back. Because I totally get just wanting to leave because you have some bad memories and there's you know there's opportunities elsewhere. Yeah I mean. I think he's just really cares for the city. I mean he sees like he's the person who wants to give back. I mean He. I know he's controversial. Sometimes and I know his lyrics are like but he's just somebody who wants to give back in Dubai by the people I think So I think that's why he stays around there. I mean Haley went to Michigan State Which was really cool And then he actually. I don't know if you know this but he actually has three daughters so Haley's biological daughter and then he has Whitney who is another. Who came had a daughter with somebody else but he adopted her and then they have Elena which is actually Kim sister's daughter who they adopted so yes actually three others not just Haley. I did not know that I follow. All of them on. Instagram will Dali No. She doesn't have one. But I follow Haley Whitney on instagram. So okay are you trying to Get THEM TO BE PAYTON's babies that there might be a little too old for that Actually Whitney would be around that age. Healy's she's like an. It influence there now. So that makes sense. Yeah well I did want to ask you. Heather how you felt about Eminem appearing the Oscars a few months ago. I loved it. I mean it just makes me happy when I saw the video I mean. I like watching him. Watching People's reactions in the crowd was like probably my favorite part though because they were kind of like what is going on but then they were kind of like. Yeah okay yea I don't know like they were. I don't know it was. It was cool. I mean any time. I get to see his performances. I get excited. I'm constantly watching. Has Music videos constantly watching like old concerts of is like? He's one of my favorite people to watch. Music is like my is kind of like my outlet and he's like my number one when it comes to a musician or rapper artist So Lake. Yeah I mean just seen him. Perform anytime is awesome. I have not seen him in concert since he performed with Riana at the monster to our which was a Wednesday back in probably two thousand fourteen. That's been almost six years since I've seen concert which means to be really really sad so like watching him. Perform on TV or in any capacity makes me super happy. Just 'cause no and did you say your daughter was six. Maybe there's a correlation there. Yes Yep she has six. I mean it just happens to be that he performed that year but I mean he's an because I was his Detroit concerts and so he typically performs every like four to five years so like I'm used to that. The first time I saw him was when I was in high school I was a senior in high school. No I was junior high school the first time I saw him at Comerica and my parents dropped me off with another friend and we went in there and we were like. This is the only time I was not like Sir Front row for him because like I'm obsessed with him so this time I was actually like in the seats and I remember people like I was smelling weird things I was like. What's that smell and it turned out to be you know I didn't know about the time but it was a lot of fun I mean so I've been going to his concerts but for a long time. But he only performs every few years in Detroit and he's never gone six years without performing so it feels like a really long time. But you know okay this. Oh it's also about how available he is to go see got. I thought you were saying you. Just haven't been but now. This makes more sense while I have to say I was watching the Oscars this year when he came out. I was both surprised and confused. Very delighted crowd reactions. Because you could tell some people are getting very into it but it was just kind of funny to hear about how they plan to this and how why. He didn't go in the first place. Apparently in two thousand three he didn't go to the Oscars just because he didn't think he would win. He said he didn't even really understand that. You could get an Oscar Song. So he was kind of confused about it and he wasn't even watching the Oscars at home. He was just I think asleep when his keyboard player who produces with him and accepted the award got in touch with him and woke him up to say hey we won but then he found out he was like Oh. This is cool so He said this time they just asked if it could be surprised for him to come out and they apparently had the place on lockdown they had four or five rehearsals and they were not even in the theater because they wanted to keep it a secret and apparently it was part of his contract that if it leaked to the media he could cancel wanted. Oh Wow yeah. But apparently he thought well. I just put out an album so why not. He sees flake just a very elusive celebrity. Like I just always feel like I never know much about him granted. I'm not a Stan as you are there. But he's always been someone that I'm just like where where did I go? Oh he's still around. He's just not Sharon everything on instagram. I guess yeah I mean Lake. A he doesn't share a lie definitely like his team is the one who posts Elvis social media which I mean even for me is like frustrating. Because you can't find out a ton about him but I really liked the fact that he's put out like three albums in the past few years. I mean that's that's been I mean that's made me happy so because of at least at least one was a surprise album rate Yeah the last to actually wear so. Pat Makasi was surprised in the music to be murdered by which was released. This year was a surprise. Okay so have there you. I became a fan because his lyrics really resonated with you do they still or is it. You've fans you're continuing to be a fan. Or what is your relationship with his lyrics. Typically now they. They still do even like his early music. Stole does really resonate with me. I mean I still struggle day day with stuff I think like kamikaze music to be murdered by those have been like lyrically. They're really great. I don't know fe necessarily resonate with me as much. I kind of like his earlier stuff but they are lyrically lyrically. They are amazing revival. Which I know was like kind of a flop. Just like relapse was. I actually really liked the album. Just because they he he touches on like when he was like in the hospital by like about to die from his overdose and like what the doctors because like. He was in there over Christmas and so in his healy's birthdays right around that time and so like he was unresponsive like they weren't really able to see him and liked just him talking about those difficult moments to me is. I Li- like I love that because then it makes you feel like hey listen like things. I'm going through it. I'm not the only one. I know that we all know that. We're not the only one because I feel like there's much there's so much more awareness out there right now when it comes to like mental health and stuff like that but sometimes you still do feel alone is when you hear somebody like seeing those songs rapping those lyrics and telling you like. Hey you're not alone like it just makes you feel like hey. I can get through this just like he got through this. So yeah and you have a whole community then of people who love his music and people who like those songs are really meaningful to that. Hopefully you can kind of feel like you're part of more than just you and Eminem but all the other people listening I'd prefer it's just me and Eminem I WANNA marry I. I actually have a picture of him next to my bed. I'm not lying. I have a picture of him. I bought the first concert I went to that is still sitting next to my bed. Like like he's my boyfriend or something like that which is kind of creepy but awesome. So he you love him like Taylor and I love Gilmore Girls. They now have a picture a photo of them next to my bed but actually I did have a phone next to my bed. That wasn't an actual person. I knew probably be humor. I don't have picture of Laura in rory but I do have Gilmore Girls Artwork on the wall right next to my bed and I have it in my bathroom so I do have Gilmore girls pictures. They're just not like cut out pictures of the actors they are just themed art and I I have a will girls quote frame that you gave me Taylor though when she tackles she conquers and that is the only movie. Tv anything that. I have on display in my home. That's like from TV or movie. So yeah I think we're on the same page. Yeah I have that quote also in my bathroom. Nice not the same artwork. This one was created by a friend on a canvas but I think it's subliminally. Inspired me to buy that for you. GotTa while I'm Glad Okay. So have there if you could kind of summarize okay so eight mile it's not totally eminem. It's not exactly his real life but do you feel like it is when you're watching it like it's Eminem or do you feel like it's I still feel like it's Eminem. I mean it's not exactly his life but it's very close to his life. I feel like it's it's B rabbit but that's me personally. I mean it. It does feel like it's in Detroit. It Tim wrapping in the style that he does so I agree. It feels like imminent he. Rabbit what kind of name is be rabbit. And it's kind of cute though I like it. I like the name. I'M NOT GONNA lie but yeah I still feel like it's Eminem so heather. Thank you so much you definitely. I was so glad we had you. Because you could fill in all the little blinks like album titles and years and children's name all the details so I'm teach you a couple small things but you taught me three things. I'm actually really impressed like you really did your research. So yeah good luck in any future endeavors to get bricks from his home. I'm still trying to figure out where he lives at this point so I know. He lives in like a gated community. Probably so I probably won't be able to get in there but you know maybe once actually. I think he lives in. I mean he lives in the outskirts of Detroit so he lives in the suburbs. So Yeah Yeah. He recently sold Because he was living in a former CEO of Kmart House like. That's what his old house was but they sold it. I when they put that on the market I was looking at it and I was like. Can I buy that? I cannot afford it. Multi Million Dollar House. I'm an HR director. I can't afford that but I looked at all the pictures of but yeah. That's always fun about one celebrity seller home you can go on the realty site and yeah see those places their incredible. Yeah but I mean I've also like kind of like his sister in law her instagram. Like I mean. She didn't have a ton of followers he had like like a couple of thousand and I went back on her feet for like a really long time and I was zooming in on instagram pictures. Like when they were outside to see if I can see like street names and how like house numbers like a total creeper like. I'm going to show up till like nee and Hers House and be like. Hey I'm a huge fan. Will you introduce me to your brother like? That's yeah yeah that's me. I really wish that surprised. You have there on this. And here's eminent. Don't have a kind of hookup. Yeah no it's okay. Well thank you stay saying during quarantine. Thank you to appreciate you coming on. Thank you And soon hopefully tactics all right bye bye. Should we talk about how this fits into the world of Gilmore girls yes so fain eight mile? What would be that mash up? There would be a really great mash up that I will not sing slash wrap that. I do feel like those. Two songs should be combined in some way so in both of those well fame the movie and TV show. 'cause I don't know which one worry was referencing. Kids come from sometimes come from nothing and try to make it big through their education at that school. Eminem's doing the same thing trying to make it big not so much through education but through networking you might say meeting a lot of rappers and honing his skill Russian up that linked in profile. So Roy just saying that because fame in eight mile were thrilling tales of young people making big less of A. Let's take two parts from each and more of a they're kind of similar in that idea. So Hey fame was a good movie and TV show and eight mile was a good movie so this article would be just as thrilling. Well it is sort of interesting that she compares this pardon me. I don't remember the ballerinas name. I don't want to call her. The Hippo as other people do because that's just not kind and apparently not accurate. That's a reflection of costumer and not a dancer. But the story of this dancer doesn't really sound anything like the story of Eminem or the story of any of the kids in fame. Except maybe that she went to Juilliard. And this art got into. Oh that's really strong juilliard. She was one of those kids at the beginning of fame. That didn't make the cut. Yeah and didn't get into the school She's danced in Miami Miami and that's huge. I mean would you say that Detroit at Miami are just as interesting? Who will I would say. They are both cool cities of which I've seen very little to none. I have basically spent my time at one friend's house at a wedding venue and in an airport in Detroit and I have never been to Miami. A sorry Miami. I have watched many episodes of Jane the Virgin set in Miami. So but both of those things are a lot grittier than this girl's life. Sounds I mean obviously I feel for her? This was kind of a crappy article for her to see after doing a performance. But it doesn't sound like her challenges have been quite the same as eminem slash B Rabbit. End The kids in fame. Yeah to me. She was trying to use those two successful movies on TV. Show to say that her article could be just as grand but Together really no similarities than in Yale students story except that she is a performer. Though perhaps it is rory trying to make it more exciting than her life story really is she feels bad about making this. Ballerina feel bad so she thinks. Oh maybe if I can write a really cool story showing how much she's overcome. Maybe it'll fix that relationship and her reputation on campus and the way to do that is not to say you know. It's kind of like that High School Musical. Where you know. They're just like struggling because their friends are kinda judging and then they overcome that judgment. Yeah Yeah I would say High School. Musical would be a better comparison these movies. Yeah yeah so Taylor so Kyla. That's our show that shoe. Thank you again. Heather schooling us on all things EMINEM knowledge into school. The Heather School of Eminem. Yes and I do want you to know. There are a couple other. Gilmore girls references. We didn't really talk about today. But I do. Just love that at one point. Emily calls him that filthy eminem fellow that is the thing that happens in the story of Gilmore Girls. That's the description. I'm sure many parents and grandparents at the time used honestly I mean maps at the time I told you eminem and fifty seven point. He'll find us on the SOC mead's yeah so it's a show on twitter so to show podcast Dot Com so to show a GPO DOT COM heads up. Tell us all the things. If you've been reference you WANNA know about. Tell us about him. Yeah are you watching way mortgage Girls drank quarantine the of questions. We're here to answer them. Yeah we are. And that's all I really got. Should we give them a teaser for the next step? Let's do it. I'm sorry you're horrified by what I'm wearing you're wearing crimson. She can't go like that service color very dangerous choice to make today. Crimson wearing red. Same thing very different. Look at Rory rory dressed in the colors. Why can't you be like rory? Gory looks perfect for just five minutes before you got here. And she's wearing my sweater. Hey I could just as easily have been the one dress right. You can wear my jacket. You have a Samurai sword under those pompoms mom. Because you'RE GONNA have to kill to get me into our yes ma'am.

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EP 57: #FREEBRITNEY (like, if she needs to be...)

Two Less Lonely Girls

44:32 min | 1 year ago

EP 57: #FREEBRITNEY (like, if she needs to be...)

"The NC question. Yes, we unto adult women. Yes, we love Bieber. And that's why we publicly stopped him. America. What gonna be too. We love Justin Bieber been clear. We're not be. Fisher. Welcome back. Everybody to two less lonely girls. I'm Rosebud Baker, Curren Fisher. And you wrote to us you tweeted at us. You texted us directly. Wow. No. Nobody did. But I, I needed a third thing that's going to be scary. We're gonna talk to people about that. No. But we're, we're here to talk about free. Brittany free Britney, the hashtag that has been swarming that I've been her right around the world. Yes. And we are I hadn't had time to look into this Corinne hadn't had time to look into this. But we finally finally did. Yeah. It's fucking wild. I usually I'm very on top of that for some reason. I just didn't when people were talking about free. Brittany. I was like I was like, does this have to do with Chris Crocker leave Britney alone? I was like what is going on now? I was just kind of, you know, when, you know when a movie comes out, and everybody's like, so crazy about it, and I'm like, I'll be like, no, I'm not gonna see it like some reason. That was my reaction. I was me anti-tampering. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like deep down. Like I wanted to know good tell it was juicy making sense it, but I was just like you know what? Now it's not. And then I found out that this broke on another podcast. And now I'm like, oh, maybe some part of me knew that another podcast found it first. And so I was rebelling against it like no, I don't care because it's a puck specifically about Britney Spears says not like they, you know, they were breaking Justin Bieber news. And then we had a fucking go streetfight west side story style, which we would I would dance fight the fuck out of that. No, you're you'd have to be jet, though. Because there's no way I'm Barry white. If I was I was a shark there would be people would be resisting. There'd be a fight anyway. So I looked into it today. I Finally I listened to the podcast. The podcast this broke on is called britney's Graham, and it's run by two comics in LA. They're very funny. I the, the it's so funny because they have the same. They started it as a fun, kind of idea, you know, just like oh, we both love Britney, and then they were saying on the podcast how it just got. So dark so quickly and feeling the same thing happened to us. We're like you start off in. You're like, yeah, I have this fun idea. It's just like a fun, silly thing. And, and then you start to actually learn about the celebrity, and you're like, oh, this is a larger commentary on what it is to be a celebrity though, because I think we, you know, celebrities, we all get to know a little bit about them. But when you get to know the whole picture of the whole story, just like, when you know, a real life person. Yes, a lot of darkness there, most times, and then magnify that by about five billion. Yeah, that's what it is to be a celebrity yet. Dude, I was talking to somebody this week. Who's more famous and like than not more famous than Brittany spears, but, like he's like, we just got more famous, you know, and like they were talking about how it's so hard to just like meet a person and like up with a person because, they don't know who to trust, and low, and I was like you had so ice, male or female, I can't give that away because people will find out there, my Instagram, and I don't wanna like okay just by the sex. Okay. Just from stories and shit. Anyway. So I yeah, but it's is relating. It's like an isolating thing. And anyway, I, I looked into this, and here's what happened. If you're not up to date on it is Britney Spears has been in a mental institution. Right. And the rumor was that she was in this mental institution for about a week. And then on Brittany's Graham, they have a hotline more professional. They have a hotline, and somebody who used to be a paralegal at britney's lawyer's office called in and was like you guys are really onto something britney's being controlled by her team. I love the paralegal is listening to this Brittany podcast and then also calling it that is so wonderful. I know just being like actually like checking in a love giving the T though, because I mean that's like, you know. How easy it was to just have total strangers. Meet me in my hotel room. Yeah. Just love it. I was saying this. I I love it. Yeah, I don't know. I was so appreciative stunned. But appreciate. Yeah. A hundred percent. I mean, and he's like I can't reveal who I am. I no longer work there. But basically today man. No. Not that I could tell you know, it wasn't. Oh my goodness. Wow. I mean he didn't say every part of it. Well, yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't a flamboyantly yet man. Yeah. Yes. So he was he said that actually Britney has been in this mental institution, since January. Right. Because she has refused to take her meds and wasn't taking her mad 's which had lost their efficacy. Is that if it sounds good? Yeah. So word. Yeah. They will not working anymore. And. So then she was found like or photographed in driving in an in and out burger with her boyfriend, which is like a big no-no apparently. And just so, you know, like the reason why there's all these rules in britney's life is that her dad is her. What's it called conservative conservative? And the only the only way that I can describe it as like if you guys saw that beach boys movie that guy, what was it called? Anyway, lead singer of the beach, boys. He had a conservator. Okay. Who is like feeding him drugs. And like took over his business affairs and shit. Yeah. It seems like of odd thing to have a non famous person with something to gain from the famous person to be the conservative, right? That seems odd. And he's like you think apparent would be a trustworthy person in the situation. But parents, notoriously fuck over their famous kids. I mean, one simple case in point, you know, the MacAulay culkin's parents. Yeah. For sure. And she's bench. Her dad has been her conservative sense, the two thousand seven breakdown. So that means that, and usually people don't have conservatives, unless they're like literally mentally ill to the point where they can't function on their own. Like can't like they're in a coma or like they're really old or like, yeah, because they're 'cause they're fully taking care of the every part like even the little things healthcare food clothing personal care transportation. Recreation housekeeping, it's your responsibility. To make sure they're like clothed well-fed. You have to take them where they wanna go right? You have to make sure they're enjoying themselves. Maybe I need a conservative. Honestly, part of me was like I will sign up for that right now. That's good. This is why this wile of hospitals, so much sentence. I really do. I should what's making you feel less lonely eating back in diapers. You know, I, I know I was reading about conservatives and I was like I wa. Not one. I would like someone to push me around in a carriage. Yeah. I wanna be swaddled. I laid that a horse and carriage, like, like a baby. Yeah, I just wanna be swaddled in breastfed and taken care of. Is that too much to ask? Anyway, I would do it if diet coca come out of the nipples. Oh my God. Because if I have to drink breast milk, I mean, there's just so many reasons, I can't, I'm lactose intolerant. First of all, I feel like if you breastfed from, like probably Britney Spears diet coke would come out of nipples So I mean death her, I would say mountain dew, for sure. Five yeah. Yeah. Or Sierra miss. Sierra mist seems a little bit. You know, do very very. But for sure anyway. So there's all these rumors circulate circulating that she is. She's actually been in this mental institution because her dad put her there in January. And reminder, she, she very publicly cancelled her domination Las Vegas residency, which is a huge deal because that was a big deal I was gonna go much that it'll. Yeah, I mean when you sign Vegas residency you stay there Li literally selene Dion is still there. I went there towards the beginning of residency when I was twenty one for my twenty first birthday. I'm no thirty three years old selene is still there. Yeah. She has outlet is like it's money for the rest of your life. Yeah. Anyway, so her dad forced her to cancel that this is what the rumor is forced her to cancel that because she wouldn't take her meds, and then put her into a mental institution, which apparent according to Brittany's Graham, she's been in since January. Airy? And according to this paralegal, there is no date for her to get out so that that's scary. But I mean, I guess if you're going into a facility at you can't give date if you just don't know what the NRA you, can you, can, you can basically signed yourself in for a week. Thank you. If you sign yourself in, but there's no release date if somebody else's signing you, and there's like no release date. It's like if you went into the hospital for physical injury, you wouldn't have a release date, that's so fucked up about it is. It's like it's almost like, well yeah, you would. You would have an idea they'd be like, oh, yeah. Three weeks from now, something, this is indefinitely cancer. Maybe not I don't know. I was just I'm just trying to play devil's advocate with the conspiracy theory. Right. Okay. So I so basically, she put out this video speaking of devil's advocate. She put out this video this week. Finally addressing all these rumors being like guys. I'm fine. I just there's a lot of stuff going on with my family. And apparently, she she's like I just need a little bit of time and I need a little privacy. And then in the the what is it the caption underneath? She goes the video was really brief and she also straight up ISIS. She looks like she is. I mean I don't know. I look like that after fucking someone I regret. Yeah. That's, that's what I look like on January. I if I go to chip Riyanti for an all you can drink. Right special. Yeah. I mean it was like is not great. And then Furthermore, so remember, like when they did those, the girls are Kelly documentary. I don't know if they did videos where they, you know, sat in front of a camera. Like, I'm okay. Yeah. But you can pause one of them, apparently and see someone like kind of, like directing or instructing in the background, I want to do that with this. Video because it just feels. I mean number one, it's so vague. Yeah, it's very vague. And it just feels like she was asked to do it. Right. Or instructed to well, it definitely feels like she was instructed to do it, and, and then the captions seems even more like she was instructed to do it so many flower emojis, so many flower while. And so, and so many details, it's like, you know, when you're lying, and you just say a lot of more details than. Yeah. It was really weird 'cause it was like five twenty three in the morning. And I was just like walking around in these new shoes that I just got and you're like okay like what does this have to do with the balloon sandwich? She says that she does a dress, a couple of emails that were circulating emails that apparently were. Sent by Britney to her team. And one of them was sent directly to or father. Here's what the Email says. Okay. Father, I just received. Oh, wait. This is written on father, yet, father, young British child new. She's just really mad. When you're like really pissed father. Okay. This was written on June nineteenth two thousand seven father. I just received your letter you talked a lot about love. I've had plenty of thoughts about everything in life lately, love included. I am very angry. And I probably got a little carried away, telling you to go fuck adopt. But I do hate what has happened to me. You really showed him. I know you are my family and have every right to be concerned by my actions. But I still to this day feel like you guys went overboard by sending me away on a sixteen hour flight that neither of that. Neither your momma really looked into Seattle, my divorce the biggest mistake I made was letting Larry walk into my hotel room. I worked with him. This is her old manager. I worked with him for four years of my life. But. Things are different. Now, I don't wanna ever go back to that time because I'm not that person anymore. I do feel he influenced me and some of my behavior patterns, and it's really strange to have a manager send you to rehab who knows who's the main one giving you drinks. He also knew I was getting rid of him the day before you guys have have a plot to send me away, which I guess she saying he knew about this, Kevin one. Minute says he had nothing. Yeah. Says he had nothing to do with sending me there. Then the next minute, he says, I'm sorry. I didn't do it to hurt you. It's like everyone is full of shit. Then you give me your whole speech about all these people I should be calling in one lady, getting a tattoo, and all these things you people will help. Okay, the worst part is Kevin given the authority to come to my fucking house with his mom who he planted, we'd with as a child, they bring their hippie as selves into my mother fucking home. I spent two years in building for his sorry ass, and he takes my eight month my eight month year old, and my one year old fuck that and fuck you too. Yes, I have an anger problem, but it feels as though it's the only thing I can really own at this point, and my car got funny. Yes, she is funny. I'm sorry, you feel joke, and I'm a bad mother. Maybe one day, I might just be good enough for you. But until then keep sending me speeches about love. Okay. So that was in two thousand seven during her breakdown. Honestly, that was a more coherent Email than I would expect from Britney Spears. But it's very Britney Spears. It's very like, in her in her Instagram. She says that these emails, were written by Sam Lucy, her old manager pretending to be her. Right. And I'm like, I don't know this doesn't seem it's so, you know, like when she says four she does the number four, she like writes, little instead of little, like it's hard to capture that, you know, if your favorite faking, you have to really be a kind of a genius. Yeah. Like the way that I mean he's either like a great fucking impressionist behind a computer or like this was her. Now a source close to Luke de strongly denies he wrote the emails. This is from the blast dot com sons sounds like a real website. We're gonna come news all over your. Yeah. Seriously? Strongly denies he wrote the emails and claims he never had access to any of her Email accounts. Another Email dated November. Eighteenth two thousand seven has to do with the piece of me video shoot and accuses her advisors of going behind her back to take control of her scheduling and career I will be taking charge of my career from now on the message reads a treatment for the videos, also included. And the video pretty much matches exactly what the treatment says. So. The final Email being circulated also sent into dozen seven focuses on spears alleged fear of her current business manager Lou Taylor. There is a crazy lady looter that has been sending stuff to my house, spears allegedly wrote, adding, I don't know her. She is a Stocker the accusation claims Taylor who runs TriStar management believes Spears's possessed, and that she needs to come and kill these spirits, what? Wow. This is illuminated shit, the Email sent to spears. Attorney also claims Taylor's trying to communicate with spears father. And she is allegedly worried for her family's safety. Okay. So this woman who spears was saying, as a Stocker is crazy is like trying to kill spirits, or whatever is now her fucking business manager, her current business manager. Okay. That's not great. Okay as we reported spears is set. This is also the blast spears is set to be released from the mental health facility, imminently, and everyone around her is focused on the stars ongoing health and recovery. So, of course, they have to say that at the end of the article rapid up a nice bow, but I think based off of all of this. I I was like reading it and, and going into it. And I was just like this is. I mean it's really fucked. And it makes me think that there's like a shitload more going on with Justin than any of us are aware of it just made me go fuck. All these people have so many handlers and what you will realize. Behind every just, just as like these behind every successful man is a is a strong woman behind every huge celebrity is some kind of, of puppeteer. Yeah, it happens. And everyone like we've heard we've heard pretty closely. I don't know if you were also there, but someone I know pretty closely told me that Arianna 'Grande certainly has that going on in her life and it's not just a Braun around by so many people. Exactly. So it's like they have this, they create this barrier, and it's like people that they feel safe with, but, you know, how people change the more money you make the more famous you are. It's really hard. It's really hard for human beings to act, normal around celebrities, even if that celebrity is their own sister their own kid, their own cousin their own best friend. It's very, very, very strange. Yeah, I will say that. I mean I know that when Pete was dating her that there were like people. Title all around her own time would never be alone. Right. You know. And, and that's why you know, I always thought Justin. And Hailey would do things like literally just like walk around the streets and hotels slippers has at a certain point. You just gotta get out of the car, and walk and just do it like they're not gonna tackle you on the street. Yeah. Because then, you know, the everyday people, it will see it. Yeah. And that ruins the Michio that and the mystery there, maybe what part of what Justin is doing is just getting away from his whole team so that he can get some fucking independence. He's been known to do that throughout his even like the peaks of his career. Yeah, he 'cause like for meet-and-greet. He would just disappear for hours, right? Yeah. For he was needed. Then come back whenever the fuck. He wanted to. Yeah. He's not someone who likes to be alone all the time. And I think in some ways Britney Spears over the years has been a little bit more comfortable with that. But at a certain points. I'm sure I mean a longtime ago I think she started to go insane and it's really sad. Yeah it said watch. Yeah. I mean on the one hand it's like she had a breakdown, and obviously, a lot of money was on the line. And I think having somebody step in as her conservator probably at the time seemed like the only thing to do because people were so worried but because she really was having fucking breakdown. Like, but once you get on meds, and you're like an adult and you are. You know, people have to step away. Right. I mean, but I think that she's the main, she's the fucking moneymaker in her house. Right. Oh, god. Here's another thing in her hometown. Probably, and her mom fucking sit her mom shared, the free Brittany hashtag, I think, or like liked it and liked somebody's comment being like. Oh, yeah, britney's, dad is like controlling her. And she, she needs to be set free and bubble. Yes. So her mom liked those comments. I wonder what is Jamie Lynn on Twitter, 'cause I wonder what she's saying because I'm on, I'm on Sam Lucy's Twitter right now. What's he saying and his well, first of all, I was he's not he doesn't have his own handle. But now I'm following just people talking about him. I thought he did have his own handle, though, because he wasn't he tweeting somebody was saying that he was on. He was like, really tweeting a lot. Sorry just saved in your. Oh, maybe this. No. The business is tweet. I don't know. Oh, maybe it's is it fucking down because yeah it's just at Sam lifting. I spelled it right. I know. I did. Okay fuck that's even weirder. Wait. It's down because I, I went to go to it. And now it's just, you know, it's just like when you search someone who doesn't have a handle just like their name will come up bolted. Yes. That's what's happening now. But wait, it has to be there. Is he off Twitter? I mean it's yeah, it's not coming up any. Well, when I looked him up the other day, I think that's why I hadn't seen it yet 'cause I looked him up the other day, and I couldn't find him on Twitter. I mean that's weird. That's weird. So as of somebody said he was like tweeting a bunch of shit. Yeah. As of okay? So as April twenty twenty second he's he's he's on Twitter. He's doing these lots of tweets that are getting re tweeted a lot. It's today is Friday, the twenty six that we're recording this. He's not there anymore. He's not on Twitter. Oh my God. He's not on Twitter. Okay, hold on. I'm googling Sam Lucy. And so when you but when you yeah, you do it. Yeah. He's people are still talking about him. Obviously, honestly, not a ton, but people also are probably spelling his name wrong, and, and things like that. But all these fans a ton of super. Britney fan accounts, and most of these Britney fans are on Sam side and kind of saying throughout the years. He's always been. Right. He's always been the one who was truly looking out for Brittany, and, and we should listen to him. Okay. So. He definitely was on Twitter at some point because. Yes. Wrote. I mean this is in two thousand thirteen on four days ago. He was on Twitter. That's what I'm saying. The fuck. So, so it's like so it's mad like maximum four days. He's been off Twitter. Minimum could be hours. We don't know but Perez Hilton if he did post her personal shit. It's not the first time that he allegedly has done that because Perez Hilton wrote an article in two thousand thirteen saying that her ex manager Sam Louis de posts alleged personal Tech's on Twitter revealing her turmoil. With her parents, and Jason Trewick. Wow. And he's had like he's had problems with spears. He's had lawsuits against spear against her family. Yeah. Have right here on someone posted on on the highlights Instagram story. Sam Lucy had shared text messages, that Brittany had snuck text to add non digress. That's the person she was. I don't remember the name that someone she was dating because sometimes she dates her rep. So I forgot, but like in two thousand nine she said my mom and dad are so mean they don't care about me. They just want my money and my babies, they stole my voice, and scarred me for life. I will never forgive them. They topped my phone. So we were we're gonna get in trouble. I hate my life. I've become a nobody. All they care about is money. They make up lies about you to all these fucking shady lawyers. Jason's the only person I can talk to you, but he likes me and I don't feel the same, but he's good with my babies. I'm sad. So sad, lost very lost. I mean Jesus This is it's like when you already are on kind of this. You know, trying to go between mentally Siebel and mentally ill. And then on top of it can't literally cannot trust anyone like there's a point of fame that I think you reach where it's like, is there. Anyone you can trust. Yeah. And that's sucked up. There's somebody named on Twitter named KENDALL eleven eleven okay? I don't know who that is. But his picture is the free Britney hashtag, and he tweeted this is on the seventeenth. He tweeted, so I spoke with Sam Lucy. And he thinks the only way Brittany can get out of the conservative ship is with help from her current boyfriend Sam as Gari who's twenty-five mine, didn't know he was only twenty five and good for seven good for her. But what I don't really trust. The twenty five year old to help me exhaust setting up Twitter account moving. Okay. So he here's what the message says Sam Lucy says, I have no NDA's that's a nondisclosure agreement and. And then KENDALL asked. So what's the truth debt? Then, do you think Britney is actually being held against her will and wants to get out of the conservative ship? I know, for fact that she used to text you back in two thousand nine but Jamie discovered it and took her phone away, then Sam rights. It's complex this conservative ship, is eleven years in the making with no end in sight. Does anyone really think this is healthy for anyone? And then KENDALL rights. I know it isn't, and that's why she needs await maybe I'm reading these wrong, which one is, which one is the blue. The blue would be whoever Sam is talking to. Okay. So then yeah. Then I'm reading this, right? I know it isn't, and that's why she needs to rebel and find a way to get out of it. I know she recorded a track called rebellion back then where she was exposing the industry and all the dirty things done to her was the was that song, one of the reasons all of the craziness happened. And then Sam writes back convince her boyfriend to help free her. He can help her contest, the conservative ship, if he says, she's fine that I'm sure, he's telling the truth, that's all Sam says, and this is on the seventeenth. So and this is I mean obviously, it could all be fucking Photoshop to the fuck knows the Twitter. But that's an interesting little tidbit. I think another weird thing that's something that I wanted to point out, is that okay? So Britney cancels, the whole Dominy Shen thing in Vegas. Huge thing. I mean I can't even multimillion. I can't even magin how many people got fucked over in that. And so I thought it wasn't her who cancelled it would have been her dad. Well, if her dad is the one who did it? I I'm thinking, well, she makes it seem like it's her decision like in her in her Instagram post because I remember seeing that for just on my feet because I follow Brittany, but according to that guy. Sorry. According to that guy who left the message on britney's Graham. Right. The dad says blame it on the illness. Right. So no totally. But I'm candy. Because I don't want to just go along with the free Brittany. I want to kind of look at it from all things was really weird. Was that, so when, when she wrote that on her Instagram he just she said just that my dad's very ill? And so, am I had, I'm thinking, oh my God. He has dementia Alzheimer's, cancer, something really bad. And then in these articles, we learned that what happened was his, his colon ruptured, which isn't great. But it doesn't seem like something that you're going to stop everything. Like, look, I can't work for the next five years because my dad's asshole broke. Yeah, because I I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking online, and like one of the main questions is, how do you know if your colon rupture which that question right, there tells me is it that serious, if you have to ask on Google, how do you even know if it happens is the primary symptoms of preparation are severe abdominal pain and tenderness. And then how serious is it? It's okay, it is potentially fatal. But it's a it's a potentially fatal complication of IBD, which is, you know, inflammatory bowel disease. I don't know what I be certainly know what I be S's because I know people with it. And that's a lot of times more just like anxiety, causing stomach aches. But it does cause explosive shit. Right. But again, like you're not gonna you're not gonna be like, oh, my dad can't stop shooting himself. I guess I can't sing talks, exactly. You know. Yeah, guess what else is toxic Madonna's? Cole. My dad's shitting glass. So I can't do this anymore. I mean, listen, I think. Obviously, this family issues with boundaries, for sure. But I don't see if if my dad's asshole, you know. You know, busted open OJ book, if I did. Yeah, if my does my dad's asshole, bussing open. I'm not going to stop my fucking Vegas tour. That's what I'm saying that. It's just not it's not gonna happen agree and it. Yeah. And also it doesn't make gonna pay for his fucking asshole to get fixed. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. He has good insurance. But the thing is it doesn't make sense, okay, because it's like we see her out, she's not seemingly like with her dad all the time. She's just kind of living the we've spotted her living her life, and then she's in her own mental healthcare facility, so just it doesn't add up, right? Yeah. You know. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't at all. There's a lot of things. I mean, there's, there's also like I said, a conspiracy theory video from a guy, call guy called rewired soul. He on it. He's just kind of explaining mental healthcare, though. And then I mean, Britney also she responded. There's a stereo gum article that I also found. I think that's just the same stuff in the same video. That's all kind of is, is that weird Instagram video that she posted is what's her boyfriend's fully again. Because I want to look that up there always dancing together. It's very sexy. Britney. Spears. Sam uh scarring. There's too many SAM's. That's why I get confused. Scurry. Okay. No. He doesn't look to be on. I don't Witter either. Yeah, it's very strange. Everyone off Twitter, everyone on her team has just like off Twitter someone on Twitter's claiming that Santa's Garis a paid actor. I mean, that's seems a little extreme does. But it's really funny. That's like come on britney's fucking hot. I don't know man. Here's. You know, on the one hand, I'm like, yes, free Britney on the other. I'm like so that I can live where she's living because I want someone to take care of me. You know what I mean? I just feel like and she's not the only celebrity with the conservative ship. There's a oh, Amanda Bines is another one who was who had a conservative ship and is apparently still under it, right. Yeah. Well, I mean you sent us semi article about a couple of people that I didn't know were under a conservative ship. And again, like this is something that the laws are different in every state. It's this is a specially California. Yeah. This is for for California. Specifically seeing don't try to take over your famous friends life. Just yet. Because it might not be possible. But yeah, okay. So here in the article is like rebel circus dot com, and it's like celebrities who are under the control of puppet masters, but it's actual legal thing that you're allowed to do. Rebel circus, just so you now anyone can write for rebel surface circus. Like you can go online and you can send them in article and they'll publish pedia. Yeah. I just want you guys to know about because when I was looking for an online writing job. That's one of the first places that I looked to get published will. Yeah. So, so basically after. Amanda Bines tweeted a tweet heard round the world, which was, I want to I want to murder my dot pussy. Remember that one in thirteen? Her mother noted that she would spend exorbitant amounts of money on complete strangers, for example by Cartier jewelry for people she met on the street. I mean that's nice purchases were what binds mother used to file for temporary. Conservatives ship over her, and it was granted the Daily Mail reported back in late February twenty fifteen that the star was doing much better from where she was months ago, and that's all according to a family source. So that was one instance. And then apparently, yeah. This here beach boys founder Br. Ryan Wilson as you said, was under the care of Eugene Landy his live in psychologist, which wouldn't interesting that is the scary as I got what is that movie? Fuck. I can't remember the name of it. But, like if you want to know. And if you're interested in like, what a conservative ship is about. It's like that movie gives you a hell of a fucking idea. Hold on. Okay. Mercy love and mercy. Who is in so good. John cusak. Don. Oh, Elizabeth banks. Yes. Here for Dana. Oh, Paul, Dan. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so good. And it's like heartbreaking. Paul giamati is in it. It's, it's directors. Bill Pohlad anyway. It's a great movie. And it gives you an idea of like when somebody takes over someone's life as they did with the beach boys guy that was it's stick it. Sad real quick, Homa. Gosh. Okay. And so, then the, the, the one that's the most the one that scares me the most on this list that you sent me is Brittany Murphy because I see a lot of similarities, when you think about it between Brittany Murphy. And Britney Spears the fact that their names, both Britney actually just even digested that says you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wasn't surprised by the sudden, passing of Brittany Murphy true. I still don't even fuck another whole story. Love, her young talented and beautiful. She passed away at thirty to her. Father was all, but convinced she had been poisoned, a sentiment many fans echoed in the aftermath of her. Some say suspicious passing though, Murphy wasn't controlled under conservative ship her husband, according to the Hollywood reporter wanted a book to be written about her life to expose the secret manipulation that occurred while she was working in Hollywood. He wanted to expose the studios producers and talent reps. He believed had used rumor and anyone know about her alleged lateness in ability to remember lines drug use and partying to destroy her career wrote, Alex, Ben block for the reporter. That's I mean, because we don't really know what the when you wouldn't let me, I wanna Google Britney Murphy cause of death, because what are you going to say overdose, like ma- mixed up meds? I thought it was overdose. The cause of death. I also thought it could have been. No, actually, the cause of death is officially listed as pneumonia. An autopsy was performed the day after she died, her death certificate listed the cause of death as deferred initially and then on February fourth twenty ten the Los Angeles County coroner stated that the primary cause of Murphy's death was an ammonia with secondary factors of iron deficiency anemia, and multiple drug intoxication. So it was like mixed medicines. And then when your body can't handle it because you're week from pneumonia, or, you know, right. Okay. We're somebody fucking talked to the coroner I feel like with that. It's crazy helpful in dark the shit is it's so dark like I mean, I just feel like. We just gotta keep an eye on this. You know what I mean? Yeah. Heart amigos. You know, it's, it's funny because even though people are looking at Justin, and being like always crazy, you know like he's taking stepping away from music. He shouldn't do that blah, blah, blah. It's like I don't know. Man. I mean he might be really onto something here. I think maybe he's probably doing the best thing for himself. Oh, yeah. If especially if he's getting sober. Because I think they keep these people Medicated. Oh, yeah. Then we forget God. Now I'm doing a deep dive on Brittany Murphy because we forget, this is some is wide shut shit because. Fuck. Okay. So in January, he had a heart attack the week before Brittany Murphy's death who? Simon her her husband Simon mo-, Jack. Okay, so get a heart attack, and then because he's dead. Now do you know if you know that he didn't know that he died? So bringing Murphy died in twenty two thousand nine he died the year after. In twenty ten and again super young forty years old. He was found dead on the twenty third of may twenty ten in his house in Hollywood. According to the Los Angeles coroner county coroner's office, Lauren forcement sources say the Los Angeles fire department was called there for a medical emergency after Murphy's mother, Sharon found mon- jock unconscious in the master bedroom, and then called nine one one again. The death also they're saying was acute pneumonia and severe anemia similar to the causes attributed wife's death, five months earlier in the same house. And he's very next. Brittany Murphy at the forest once Atari that's fishy as tool people of non dying age, which is, I'm gonna go with anything under fucking like eighty do not die of pneumonia, and then mixed 'cause especially people who are rich also what is this, like multiple causes shit? Like this isn't not getting a bachelor of arts. I minored. Minored in anemia, with a master's in a moment 'cause she says that is so fucked, yet that's really and I it's so it's so interesting. How some things we'll talk about for a long time. Like, you know, when Michael Jackson died, we talked about his cause of death for a long time. And then some people were kind of like, oh, that we're almost blinded by the weirdness of the death and the young -ness of the death. And then kind of just don't ask any more questions or believe whatever we're fucking fed by anything. It's very strange to me. Okay. Well, I was a deep dive. What is making you feel less lonely this week? I started watching that show. You should leave me to funny. Everyone talking about it on Twitter and I was like I gotta go, and I watched four episodes at once drunk on one beer last. Yeah. I think you should leave. It's so fucking funny. It's a great sketch show. And an actually, the guy who produced it is, Dan Powell who also produced a Schumer's Schumer's show. So he's great. And he this is just like fucking great show. Like if you haven't, we it's been a while since we've had a really great sketch show, and it's nice to have won back. I think the world needs it truly. I like it was fun. Yeah. So that, that's what's making me loudly humor. What's making me feel as lonely this week is Brazilian waxing. I'm back on it. I, I had a traumatic experience years ago at fucking European wax center. Which I mean why don't you just have a kid pull it out with a? Gum on their hands. That's what European wax center. Your garbage, I used to work at us by your fucking garbage and they're not cheap either. So I I love doing a little research on a spa center founded place and not gonna give it away because the to listen I can't give away. Just too many people show up. And then, like people will yell at me. Like why did I get fifty thousand calls? I don't give away. My dermatologists info. Yeah. I'm fortunately but anyway, it just get good yelp. You can figure it out zip code. You know, do some research ten minutes. I didn't do anything special. No one tips me off. But yeah it's so nice. Basically, I mean, I just remembered, I was like you have to go to rush and women. I don't know what I was thinking going to an American Girl, letting her near my pussy here, but are an aggressive. Yeah. Oh, you're Russian. No, no, no. I'm saying Americo because I'm Russian no Americans, we just get we want too much too fast. Yeah. And it was just because first of all, like no one really warns you. But you're in their PU bear styles shirt, no pants. People are springing sprinkling, baby. All over your, your wet pussy and yeah, the yeah this woman, honestly, like it just hurts so much less I hadn't gotten it done in, like years, and years and years. So the first one was a little up at like at European Accenture. It was the it was the fiercest pain, I had ever felt in my life, and I don't I felt like there's too many women doing this. Yeah. For that, to be the case. So anyway, find a Russian lady named Olga. Mine was legit named Olga. That's not even being and. Yep. And get that pussy if you liked to if that's my choice. I don't care. Okay. Like anywhere on my body good. Gotta get onto in fact, good for you. I've never waxed in my life, and I never will really going. I like that about, you know, I've been like since since I got Kerr like h is me like it feels uncomfortable. Yeah. Like when I was like, I mean, this decision when I was twelve years old, basically. Yeah. And so it wasn't like SIS -iety, right? Yeah. It was just like I don't like this. Well, I always society. But I hear you. Yeah. Okay. So guys get. At your pussies waxed. If you want to, and don't, if you don't want to don't, if you don't want to and watch and watch. I think you should leave as more tip shortly. Oh my God. Leave that health mental health facility make room for people who want to be swaddled. She needs some cucumbers on her eyes and it just a nice back rub. But up, wet wipe would be good just wipe off the last month makeup. Oh, gosh. 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We Came Here to Forget Book Club

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We Came Here to Forget Book Club

"Hi everyone. Welcome back to bat on paper PODCAST. I'm Grace Atwood and I'm Becca Freeman and today's book club. I'm so excited to talk about this book. We both loved this book this book. I think I read an in thirteen hours. I've probably said that before but I just love this book. I'm really excited to talk about it. Because I think what you and I took away from. The book was completely different. Which is funny? Yeah absolutely before we get into to the buck. Should we do our highs and lows. Yeah Becca what's your high watching Syria. I am my high but he looks really cute. He's wearing a sweater. He just jumped on a stool. And he's wagging his tail. Yeah he he's his winter closer out so we're having some fun No but that's not my real high. My real high is that On Tuesday I put my Christmas tree. I decided to just get started on Christmas early. Because Thanksgiving's late this year and then we're on vacation the next week so I put up my Christmas tree and it brings me an unreasonable amount of joy to sit in the light of of of Christmas tree lights. Yeah absolutely I I've I told you this but I'm struggling. I don't know I don't think I'm going to get a tree this year because I want to get a real tree but it's just not worth the mess for like the only in December. I'm here for like a week total. I've done a real tree twice in my life and I'm I'm not into it. I mean it's it's nice. It looks Nice. It smells nice but I can't deal with the shutting of Pine Needles that drives me nuts. It's really bad like I have to vacuum every day. I already vacuum like every every day because of this one oh I think for me I like cheesy Christmas stuff so I'm not trying to make like you know you've seen those trees that are like beautiful beautiful everything's white on them and they're very like themed I'm like I have this looming ornament. I have this penguin. Ornament like lights are rainbow like it's cheesy. Yeah so oh I don't I don't really care about having a fake tree. Oh I really WANNA real tree. I just always had a real tree growing up and I love the way that my whole apartment smell so amazing like like when you wake up in the morning I know you candle but it's not the same wish. One year I found this They were like diffuser sticks. Yeah APP here. One and I smelled so good. It's just like a Christmas tree. And I'm really sensitive to overpowering. Smells like I find a lot of candles to be too much. Yeah and this one was perfect perfect but I never found it again because that could have been your solution just like hide behind the factory. No I think I'm just not going to decorate this year. Which is so lame? I'm I'm so excited to to decorate like in my last apartment it was much smaller and so if I put up a Christmas tree it was like okay. You can put up a tree but then you can't use this seating seating blocks the TV. There was always something dumb with it. Yeah so it makes me really happy to have a tree. I need more decorations. I have some more assum I have are those on. You know what you might love have you heard of ornaments. Oh I saw them on your story. I don't add more Christmas tree ornaments right. Need other stuff like I wonder if I should get like silver garland or something for like my bookshelf. I Dunno Ooh that feels extra. I don't know I don't know if I hate that. Yeah all all right anyway. What's your high I have two so first of all my sister and I have started a little tradition for our birthdays where we take each other out for like a really Nice sushi dinner And so we went out last weekend for it for her birthday. I love this year like starting fancy dinner traditions with different people for the podcast you. Their sister going to a fancy dinner every week. Because I have bargained with fifteen people I know I know it's just my sister in you but So far he the ASO far. It's really fun and we. We only do it twice a year because birthday is. We're going to figure out some other reasons to it because our birthdays are pretty close like mind. In September twenty seven than hers is November six. Where did you go? We went to catch Sui which is in park slope. They have the best Mukasay. Yeah I think I'm I'm too picky for all Mukasa and melts in most cases. I don't I don't think you'd like it. It's because it's like whatever they feel like giving. I know there was a few things I don't like I just I don't like it either. Yeah but everything else I loved. There was the Torah was the best Toro I've had in my life like it was like butter was so good. What's your other ride? My other high is what we did this week. We got to go to the New York Public Library before it open And it was just so cool seeing that room completely. -pletely emptied out We saw some of our favorite books to Graham friends. We met some new ones The library is just. It's like one of the most beautiful rooms in the city. Eighty and it was so cool getting to see all emptied out. It was very cool. Yeah what about on the low front okay. So this is like this week and last week are like Mike Freesias weeks of the year for work like I have so much work on top of that I have so many events like morning stuff night stuff like make multiple trips into the city juggling with brands. So that's all fine because when you work for yourself when you're busy it means you're making money which is obviously very very good but I did something dumb well not I don't know if it's my fault or his fault so what happened was there is a guy that I was like very excited to go on a date with tonight and so on Monday after you and I did that thing with a hallmark channel I I messaged him about like where we were going and I had been like. Oh could we actually go closer to me in Williamsburg and then he wrote back immediately and was like yes. How about this place? I forgot to a message him until last night which is Wednesday night so it was two days okay but it was for tonight so I had it. I put the date on my calendar. I told you I was like I have a date. I'm excited and then so last night after the Sarah Flint event which I got home and just brain dead I I I go to message him. And I look in my hinge matches. And he's just gone he unmatched you. He unmatched me. And I think he unmatched me for my slow response time. Oh Oh that's so savage. I was going to send a really apologetic note and just like I'm so sorry. This is like my crazy time with work With literally either. I'm barely sleeping right now. And he just unmatched me so I was just like I was so it was just so startling to go in and I don't have a lot of matches because like I mostly use hinge for like entertainment at this point like I love going and finding crazy bios and things and I just I. I was so shocked. Wow Yeah it's hurt. I was just like Oh. I've really was unreasonable. Like if it was two days not that bad. If he wasn't great no it wasn't great but if he then was like oh I made other plans for that night and he could no longer do tonight. I would get that. He was going to hear formula so I did doing something else but like to be like. I'm no longer interested in you. Maybe fast communication in his one of his thing. Yeah I guess so. I'm usually pretty good. I don't have notifications on hinge. I don't have it for anything. Because I haven't for some for tax like you and Alex I get notifications for my family. I get notifications for my family group. Text do knock it not notifications for I don't like to have a lot of notifications because my phone's always leading getting up then so I didn't even I don't even I didn't even see it. 'cause I didn't log in to get notification setup fully. No I mean he's not my I was GONNA say like it's not meant to be in not unlike fate way but like you're not the right person for him if he gets agitated after you know not Somebody not responding on dating after two days. Yeah I mean I had no skin in the game. We hadn't ever gone out but I like you know those people or you see them and you're like Oh. I think that we'd really really headed off. Maybe he's a serial killer. Maybe you dodged the bullet. Maybe I did. So it's fine. What about you? I'm really stupid but so I was at a wedding last weekend in Philadelphia was so fun it was really fun it was I was sweating It was the Union League in Philadelphia. which was really nice? It was a gorgeous wedding. She was gorgeous. Was My fourth out of five weddings this year so it was a lot but I'm honestly it feels like there's been more affiliates because there's somebody Bachelorettes to But to be blunt drank a ton on Friday and Saturday night. Because you know we there was a welcome drink thing and then on the wedding at the after party Chris. I feel like I will never be hydrated fully again. I know that feeling where it's not that. I not hung hung over it even on Monday when I got back. It's not like it's a prolonged hangover. I'm just like wow. I drink three liters of water a day and I'm still like at an active. Yeah many have you ever taken like drip drop or liquid. IV or something. Love Look what I do. You have any here. Yeah I'll maybe after I finish the Seltzer. We'll have a liquidity. Maybe it's that like my electrolytes are off. Yeah look what I've used great. I want them to sponsor apart. They've sponsor a lot of PODCASTS. I bought it because of the girl's gotta eat podcast because they were talking about it as like a hangover fixer and also they swear by taking the night one when you're drunk or like no you're going to be home for the next day. Oh it's great. I found out about it at the BACHELORETTE party a couple of years ago in the gift bag. There were heard of it. It wasn't like whatever it was drip drop which I think is the same thing. Yeah it always cracks me up the drip drip website is because for a while. You couldn't buy it in stores. And it was cheaper on their website on Amazon and on their website. It's like for elite athletes and for like also like missions in third world countries like for dehydrated children and I was like and for hung over people. That's so funny Johnny. So yeah I just I never be hydrated again. I now I felt like that. Also just from all the travel like all the fo. Yeah claims that adds up here and Ju- just not drinking enough water. Yeah Yeah and all the coffee that also dehydrate. I know we woltring so much which coffee. I wouldn't say a drink so much coffee. I drink a lot I have like a bigness Bresso every day and Dunkin most afternoons I would say I I always have one coffee and then I would. I'd say a couple times a week. I have a second. I wouldn't say so trust so much but my skin's been feeling really dehydrated to. Yeah oh I have a miscellaneous topic for you before we got into this book. Yeah I saw this in the notes and I'm like what is I just wanted to ask you and I'll do it on a microphone instead of in person I'm preparing my my watchlist for Black Friday or are you looking for anything in particular. No I'm looking for things for my readers because I'm going to do with big blog post. Go Up if you're listening to this. It will go up Thanksgiving night. I swear I didn't even say this as a way to give grace chance to plug plug something. I just I started. Listen my phone because I'm a crazy person. I shouldn't say crazy person but this week. We're recording the week before. Yeah Yeah thanksgiving. I'm like I won't buy anything because I'm like it might go on sale. I'm like printer. Paper might go on sale like need coffee. Beans might go on sale like anything anything I need. I'm just differing so I started a list in my phone. Yeah 'cause do you remember. I bought those Sesana boots and they were assigned to small so I need the next size but I was like. I'M GONNA wait till Black Friday. I'm just storing up things that I'm looking for and then I also I want coats is the big thing that I want. We'll Hanoch Cotillard. I I just need a couple new coats like I think I need like two or three new. Anyone firemen like color so I walk I for I want one fun coat. I don't puffer. I don't need like a okay like Arctic winter coat. Yeah I I want one fun one and then I need one in black one and I'd like one that's on the longer side. Yeah so like me lanes or I'm thanking and then Like maybe a camel one one or something else that's classic but isn't black. Yeah I definitely recommend the Atlantic Pacific codes if they have on the like. You don't last time I looked they. Maybe they've restarted. The last they were really picked over. Oh she sent me that pink one the long one and it's like it feels like it's like a nine hundred dollars coat. I usually like CLA Monaco's coats I'll have to check. Look what they do on Black Friday to see if they have anything good. I really want the Katie's Torino's stitch fix won the green one. Yeah but you can't buy it as a one off. I know it's hard. I got that the Camel Hamel one I wanted to but Yeah it's it's hard because you have to order the box and tell the stylus what you want. A stylus doesn't always give you requested requested items. I'm just curious what other people buy on Black Friday. 'cause like usually the other things that I always buy one of them. I'm not going to do this year so I really like. I've talked about this on the podcast for American Eagle Underwear and they do ten thirty on black Friday so I always got underway. But I don't need any right now. Oh and then I I always get a thing of Bomba socks okay. 'cause I like those socks for working out but they're stupid expensive entry not stupid so good I just find find them really comfortable. Okay I just get the ones that the running store. They're not cheap but there isn't I think these are nice. They don't have the seam they also wear really really well. Okay but I like them. They're like more than I would want to pay for socks usually so I usually get a usually gifts out so usually get one on black Friday. Okay I just wanted to know if there's anything you were saying I want to get after gifts. I'M GONNA get body stones for everyone in my family because I love. I love that so much but I'm waiting to see if she does a sale the big things like I. I have e mails outside my favorite brands. Because I'm trying to figure out. No no one is sending me their sale details like usually I get a heads up on everything so so I know shop apple have a big sale up. I'll probably buy a few things there I know that I don't think so far as having a very big sale there. They don't do a good black Friday thing. They'll we'll have like a few offers but the big thing was the Salem zoo weeks ago. I'm trying to find out because you guys keep asking you guys listeners readers. Whatever I'm on keep asking about Dr Bader on sale and I can't I don't know right now missile at gray we'll have it on sale because has it? That's my My best off from my best. Guess Right now yeah and then I know that Sarah Flint is having a big sale. But I don't know what it is I wanNA know I was grilling them at my event last night and and we'll get it to you like people are very do. I need perfect boots and Brown. I mean they're glued. I just think that later car boots. Cut Your leg funny. And so you know my role that later color boots I saw CNN. Jane wearing them and I really liked them. Yeah I mean. CNN jeans legs are like Split. So tiny I feel like when I wear where boots like that it makes my legs look short and Chunky. I think if you do an ankle gene with like a little sliver of skin with a taboo. It looks good but otherwise I think it makes people's legs look really bad. Well maybe I'm Livin for real life not for the photos. Yeah Yeah Anyway we can. We can get into this book now. I just wanted it to know what what you were looking for. Yeah just gifts I am. I did some shopping last week for like dresses and things. I just have so many events so I bought everything not on sale. I'm also curious. What Veronica Beard and Tanya Taylor are going to do? I'll put it on my blog and my bog does so go to my blog is Quick desperation minute before we get into the plot summary For this book I would really appreciate it if you left us a review. And if you don't like this podcast disregard that and don't leave one. Yeah got a few not nice ones and I'm taking it very personally I took the. I'm I'm very drained right now and I took them very personally. I went on and I looked at the last night and I just had like the longest two days of my life and then I looked at them and I was like very upset but this is not to complain. This is to ask you to leave us a review review. If you like this podcast and haven't done it yet. I put some Karma out into the universe and I reviewed a bunch of my favorite podcasts. That I haven't left reviews for yet. I always do that. 'cause I it's like like a like a nice thing to do. Yeah so go on Apple podcasts. And it takes two seconds leave us a star rating. If you don't wanNA write something but I I love it when people right I get so happy people right mace things anyway do that. Yeah let's talk about this book. Oh my gosh says buck. So this month's book we read we came here to forget by Andrea dumb op. And tomorrow we're going to have a bonus episode with the author and tomorrow's Thanksgiving so you might not and read it but you can save for later listened to it. Whatever say over Lynch over chill weekend or I bet a lot of people will be in their cars this weekend online? Yeah road trips to see family. MHM Anyway really ended about this book. Quick trigger warning. This book deals with Munchhausen's by proxy and character harms child. You're going to be triggered by that. Please stop listening and or don't read this book exactly. We've got that request after doing verity. So we're trying to be better with Goering's so fast word we will not be offended. The book starts out with Katie cleary. Who is our main character landing on a flight from Argentina? She opens her phone phones. Find out something terrible has happened. Her family's gotten really awful news but we don't know what it is so the story is told in two different timelines and it flashes back and forth between Katie's eighties past and her present. I love this. So Katie Grope in Idaho was the younger sister and while Katie was athletic. Her older sister Penny was pretty and smart and while penny was girls girl. Katie meets these two boys Luke and his brother Blair skiing camp when she's six and she grows up up is one of the boys and as she gets older she becomes obsessed with skiing is exceptionally good at it. And we have back in the present Katie is. We don't know what's it's happened something. We just know that something terrible's happened. She is becoming completely unraveled. So she's going by a fake name. She's calling herself. Liz Sullivan to avoid avoid being recognized. She's also deeply deeply depressed and she's mourning the end of her relationship with Luke The end of her professional skiing career and the end of her relationship with her sister. So it's really clear that the terrible thing that happened has to do with her sister but again we have absolutely no idea what's happen so she's out running errands and she drives by an airport and impulsively decides that she's going to book a one way flight to Argentina once she's there she signs up for Spanish classes and she gets a job as a tour guide planning that she's going to stay there awhile so Katie's there on New Year's Eve she takes herself to dinner and she meets these two guys who take her to a party and at the party she meets the host. WHO's this guy? Edward WHO's this mysterious ex pat and he has a very eclectic group of friends and then also at that party. She meets a man named John Luka. WHO's an incredible tango dancer? And she's so intrigued by the tango dancing that she sees at the party that she she decides to check out a local studio and take lessons and her tango lessons actually bring her a new circle of friends in Buenos Aires so then back in the past past Lucan. Blair's parents divorce It's very sad. The Dad leaves the mom for like his younger. Like had a marketing his twenty seven years old And and so that their family actually moved out to Sun Valley when Katie is fourteen years old. So she's like devastated. She's losing her two best friends and then Katie and her family on a visit with Lucan Blair and her dad actually invites Katie to come to Sun Valley and live with them. It would give her a better chance of a career at pro skiing. So Katie Eighty of course begs her parents and eventually they they give in They're also dealing with a crisis with penny penny has now developed. LP epecial so or at least they think but then it comes out that she was actually shaving her own hair off which I thought was crazy So Katie finishes out. High School in San Valley will penny goes to Boise state on during this time of course penny has a slew of of health issues eventually getting diagnosed with Lupus also also at this time. Katie gets together with Luke Romantically so after high school. Katie Luke and Luke's Blair are rising stars and Olympic skiing. So meanwhile while Katie's starting a pro skiing career penny gets pregnant at twenty six with twins but something goes wrong with her pregnancy and she goes goes into Labor early while her fiance and her parents are away. She ends up losing the babies. But the story doesn't really add up so penny told her family that that her friend. Emily took her to the hospital but then when her friend calls to check on her and Katie picks up the phone the friend tells Katie that she thought the pennies fiance was with her at the hospital. So things are adding up within back in Argentina Liz Slash Katie has been adopted into this friend group spearheaded by Edward Who's the rich depressive man that we mentioned earlier and then his child hood friend Gemma so at a party that Edward Throws Katie has a panic attack the next morning. Katie is awesome barest and feels terrible but JEM confesses that she actually came to win because she had a nervous breakdown. It comes out to everyone in. The group is really trying signed to escape from something dark in their past. So Katie continues to get more and more entertained. Goal Asan's John. Luka is her personal dance coach and she's using it to replace that whole that skiing left. Meanwhile she's developing very strong feelings and later a casual fling with Gianluca who is again her very very charismatic and charming but also womanizing tango instructor so flashing back to the past penny is with a new man and the whole family is really optimistic mystic that things are turning around for her and she throws herself into getting pregnant again so when her daughter Eva born from the very outset. Eva has all these as health problems and as she gets older she just continues to have issue after issue and there's not really a cause for them so Katie and penny's parents grow really worried and after we're speaking to their family. Doctor and Eve's pediatrician told that it's likely that penny has Munchhausen's by proxy and is fabricating or actually like causing using all of health issues. So after her parents raised the alarm gets taken away by child protective services but after a trial pennies custody custody is restored so at three years old. Eva Dies under mysterious circumstances in. This is the news that Katy got when her plane land at the beginning of the book. We're we're going to discuss this with that. Part is made me so sick So back in Argentina in the future or present rather Katie is falling deeper and deeper into Gianluca even though they've never been on an actual date and their relationship is purely physical so on a on. A visa runs Uruguay. She spots Gianluca with a woman and two children which is his family that she knew absolutely nothing about on that very same trip. She realizes that she's missed her period so flashing back again gun in the aftermath of Eva's death Katie Penny aren't speaking and penny as arrested on murder. Charges and during the trial penny is painted as the neglected did child while her parents were overly focused on Katie's skiing career so eventually penny gets acquitted and nothing bad happens to her but the mental stress us of Katie's situation and the whole trial and everything going on with her family and also she's being harassed online by people who are like disgusted by what penny didn't is taking Out on her. She gets really distracted from skiing and she gets demoted to the C team in the Olympic skiing team and then ultimately she has an accident and she shatters her Tibia so also her relationship with Luke doesn't survive the aftermath of the trial. So this is the tailspin that we found her in at the beginning of the book. So then we're in the present tense and on a trip to Terra del Fuego with her friend Kelly. Katie runs into another skier. WHO calls goes out to her and and blows up her false identity she also grappling with the possibility of being pregnant and comes cleaned Kelly about who she was and what happened and why I she's in Buenos Aires? She takes a pregnancy test. She confirms that she is pregnant with John Lucas child but then this is where it gets real juicy back in Buenos what else I raise. Katie runs into Blair the skier that had seen her interior del. Fuego tipped him off and he came to find her and tell her that he's in love with her and his brother is an idiot. So then there's an epilogue and Katie. How's her daughter? And she marries Blair and while the pain of pennies actions ends are less acute for her still haunts her and really her happy ending is. She doesn't become her sister and that she survives it. Let's take a quick break break to talk about a sponsor and then we're GonNa talk about this book. God we finished the book and I feel like my heart is racing just thinking about it again. 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You can take fifty percent off your first order so go to take care of dot com enter Code B O P fifty at checkout again. That's take care of dot com and use code. B O P fifty fifty percent off your first order. That's a good deal. Yeah let's get into this book discussion. Yes that's how I talk now. I'm excited it's kind of your voice. It's not my over voice it's my every syllable book is its own thing voice. Because I am excited. You don't sound excited okay. Well I am. I'm excited to so if you were running away and starting a new life. Where where'd you go follow question? Do you mean this in practical terms or just like sky's the limit terms all right do both. I WanNa know both okay so I mean in practical terms I would probably still need to work and I don't really speak any foreign language. Proficiently efficiently enough to get by. So I mean I. I think I would move to London on a practical level. Yeah that would make accents. It's far enough away. Don't really know anyone there. But could function yeah in impractical terms. Like I would move to an island in Thailand started tourist business Have no idea how that works but would go to a very like a great beach town and be under the radar. Yeah but I feel like there's a lot of practical considerations with that that would actually suck like getting a visa or on. I don't know figuring out how to start a business in a foreign country. Yeah wait where are you running going to. I think if I was so practically I'd go to big Sur. I love big earnings. My happy place is so beautiful. I was sued stay domestic as day domestic. That's the practical solution or London. I do love London but I think I know I actually. We know a lot of people in London so so many people in London that you. I have like five good friends in London when my blog friends. You don't have you don't know them all I've got I mean there was like I won't get into it but there was like gossip about a guy who is dating and it people in London. Were talking about it so that makes me feel like I couldn't have a fresh start in London. I mean it depends what you did. Did you murder somebody or did you like have a deep personal embarrassment like their a levels. Yeah I don't think I could have a fresh start in London. Okay Big Sur. Feels feels more like a fresh start. Okay what anyone there. What about your impractical choice impractical choice? I think we'll be Cuba because there's not really any WIFI there. Oh Yeah I don't know what I would do for Orla what business I would have. There's not really a lot of industry in Cuba. Maybe you become a mechanic and you start restoring old cars yeah. I don't think I'd like fat. It's a fresh start grace. Yeah something totally new coupling totally. I guess I just think of Cuba's like such a escape because you're so disconnected. Yeah hopefully uh either of us have to run away. I don't think either of us have great plans now. We don't I so I wanNA talk about what we both thought about this book because we talked talked about it. So we're recording out of order recorded with Andrea the other day who is the author and even just an promoing the book in episodes like I really took this story as a redemption story so what drew me to. The book was like the story of the worst possible thing. Happens to you and like how do you pick up from that and like I loved the story of her life and Buenos. IRA's I really took the dark back. Story is just like the explanation for why she was running away but I was. I wasn't reading for that like I was reading for her Argentina story. Oh I was reading because I needed to know what happened with with her sister. That's so funny. Yeah I love the Argentina story and I loved the depiction of Buenos Aires. But for me I was just like I was so caught up with the sister. You're like when there is a problem child. When I found out that she was shaving? Her head like not and didn't have ALOPICIA. I was like Oh something is happening like. I like needed to know I. I stayed up all night reading this book because I needed to know what was wrong with penny. That's so funny. Yeah I did I did too. I found the book vary like compulsively readable. Oh but I felt like I was reading for the virus plotline not for the OH. Finally I didn't really care. I liked it like I thought that I love the Tango Angle. I loved the friendships that she made. I thought that Gemma and Kelly teamed like really great people. I just I needed to know what happened to penny. No I think it's so. I equate it to like the way I feel when I watch. Did you ever watch curb your enthusiasm. It wasn't really meant for me so I didn't really watch the show either but the few episodes I did see I would get such a stomach ache because I knew that lake a problem was building or like something was going to happen and when like penny was flying about her debt or she was like with any boyfriend. I was like I'm so uncomfortable. Something bound is going to happen where it wasn't like it was like sometimes. I don't look like doc thrillers because I'm afraid I'M GONNA get murdered in this wasn't I wasn't projecting this in any way where I wasn't like. Oh my God. I'm going to kill a child but I was like. Oh this is going to catch in her. Yeah gave me anxiety but I loved it. Oh yeah that's so funny. You know another thing. I loved about this book. The thing I loved about about this book so I loved her. Buenos Aires plotline but I I definitely loved the depiction of Buenos Aires and it made me think about so. I know neither of US liked this book but but To remember and what I was doing while you were breeding yes. There's a whole plotline in that book. That's nonfiction yes Outta this yet. But it's a TV writer and she has an affair with somebody in Buenos Aires and keeps going back and between that book in this book. Like I've I've never been to join and it just really made me want to go and I thought the depiction here is really interesting because they also included some of the darker aspects in terms himself Like the mothers and the square. who were there's a Para Sita's yeah? We're protesting that. Just parents of their children and like it wasn't told hold only in a glamorous way but it we really want to go. I also really want to go to Uruguay. I don't really want to go to Uruguay but I do want to go to Venice. Sorry I've heard Uruguay's so cute really yet. I can't remember the name. But there's an island I think the go-to in the buck. Oh actually there is and my friend. Heather does a yoga retreat there. I WANNA go supposed to be incredible. You're right it's like saying Nasional I WANNA say I don't know that might be the name of the hotel I don't know but it's it's like very like brightly colored and I don't know sounds nice I I just felt like it sounded like so vibrant and sexy and fun I was also I also did get a kick out of the fact that like a lot of the Mancilla with their mothers and that they would go to those like hourly hotels to like go have. Sx Oh yeah that made me laugh. He and I guess that's true of a lot of cultures. Yeah it's definitely a big thing outside the US to live at home until you get married. Yeah I don't don't want to have an affair with somebody who still lived with their probably not their mother but good for Kelly in this book. Yeah anyway definitely good for Kelly. I mean let's talk about. Oh you're plotline okay. So let's talk about tousands okay so I was trying to think because I do. You feel like Munchhausen's was like a very popular plotline in the late nineties early. Two thousands. No Oh you. Don't I feel like I associated with Like Ricky Lake and all of those shows were like or even like never was allowed to watch plenty so I never did when I got older. I was because I remember I would get home from school and my mom wouldn't get home from work until later and I would watch like so much trash TV a Ho. I wasn't allowed. Catch you my mom wasn't home. Yeah Yeah my parents were home. Oh and they weren't. I was allowed to wifely one hour and I watched saved by the bell. I did like save by the bell. I wasn't allowed to watch nine but I did watch that anyway. I watch not know with male pair and then my whole family. The only got hooked my parents too but I feel like back to Munchhausen's like I feel like there was like a very popular tabloid headlines in the late nineties. That's just me but you had something about Brittany Murphy writing down. Oh Yeah I don't know what about Brittany Murphy will remember how Brittany Murphy died under really. I'm suspicious circumstances. Yeah I thought she like to do many drugs. We'll know so. She had been really second. She lived with her mother. And then and right after. I'm totally botching story because I didn't look anything up about it but I was just like I feel like it could have been because then her husband died really really soon after her under the same suspicious circumstances and I remember there being like all this speculation about what she poisoned. Oh my God I did not. I totally missed that story very In so I well. I don't speak out of turn and be like Britney. Murphy's mom poisoned her. But I like. You're going to get a suit. I know I kind of like remember that. That's so funny. I don't remember that at all. I feel like Munchhausen's been all over the news like we're not the news but pop culture this this folic between this and then I started the politician like shortly shing it and I was like oh I know all about this like I didn't really know much about it and then don't WanNa put on the politician and I saw. That girl was sick in her her relationship with her grandmother. I was like I think that this is that I felt so smart. Now I'm reading articles about Brittany Murphy and trying to like scan it really quick to see if I can tell but nothing came up for Brittany Murphy Munchhausen's but like there. There was something that it was like. She had She had drugs in her system but they weren't illegal drugs but like I feel she also had like bleach or like something like something. That wasn't a drug that it was like. Oh it was. She had this like toxic mold in her system. All my God. I can't remember I'm going to have to read about. Her husband died too. Oh yeah her husband died he seemed fine and then he died right after the official cause of death was pneumonia and anemia. I think where are you on the hello giggles article no on rare dot. US which you know is accurate. I want hello giggles looking at this. Maybe I'm I think I'm wrong but interesting interesting. Maybe it wasn't much houses but I remember her death being very suspicious irritating. Her husband had Munchhausen's Oh her husband poisoned her but then why did he poison himself. I don't know Oh okay well back to. Yeah I don't know I think we're going to have some. We're we're GONNA have some research search. Everyone come convenient the facebook group. And we'll talk about it. This is too long of a sidebar to talk about on this podcast seriously. Anyone is like a avid follower of the story Tori. Please come tell me about it in the facebook group but yeah I felt like Munchhausen's was like maybe this is not true but I felt like it was such a blast from the past because I feel like it was something that not that I thought was common but like you saw all the time in pop culture like okay so when I was a kid I was really afraid of quicksand because quicksand was written about in so many books I did I was afraid of quicksand because the books because books but then like in my whole adult life I've never encountered quicksand and I feel like Munchhausen's one of those things. Where like as a child? I thought it was like way more prevalent than it was like every was out there. Poisoning there all my Do Not Watch any any talk shows. I think if you watched a lot of talk shows Oh oh my God my mom would not allow like I remember like being on and Herbie like trash. We're taking that off. Used to watch all of it Maurie. Oh my God guy. No I never watched reached any well. Anyway I felt like when I was reading this book I was like home. Munchhausen's is back. That's funny I didn't really know much about it. And I read this book doc and then I saw the politician I was like Oh like this is like a trendy I think. Maybe it's a trendy illness no so I mean yeah maybe it is but The thing that I thought was really interesting that there is this whole social media plotline that upstate at the Munchhausen's because penny had all of these Face ransom she was in these groups and I think she had like ten profiles and she was like manufacturing this whole life online and unlike some of them her her daughter had already died and some of them like her husband had died like all like so creepy. It was so creepy. Yeah that really was a very like twenty twenty nineteen twist on my talk shows of my childhood yeah that holy sympathy thing like and I could see how that would be like a little bit addicting for someone who was sick sickle in that way like the just like getting all this validation from the online community totally I mean. I don't want to like speak ill because I think generally facebook groups are really really positive and I. I love our facebook group. I'm in a ton of facebook groups that I really like but I'm in facebook groups in a lot of times like I'll see somebody write a post about losing their job or going to break or something and it's like they're always nine hundred or like so many comments of people Just like being like sympathizing sympathizing but also like the poster is always right like nobody's like well. Yeah were you about your job yet are just like that's bullshit. We're playing in there hanging that because these groups are so positive like I feel you could really easily go in with a fake story and you could drive up so much sympathy and I also have seen because sometimes juno and facebook groups where you see something that like doesn't even relate to your life at all but you just get like morbidly curious and I read all the comments. Yes yes like. There was one that I saw this week. He was in the be there in facebook. It was about a mother who was asking a question about her daughter. Had No friends don't have a child. I'd be curious about that. There were hundreds of comments. Read all of them but like they're also all these people who are connecting with her over at where they were like either talking about their own. Children are talking about their own personal experiences. where it's like conflicting this with this woman? I sure it was telling the truth. But it's like she could have easily gone in there with the story made all of these like online friends uh-huh and like yeah because then things we often see in our facebook group for example. Some let me message you privately. And then that takes it out of the group into into this whole like real life French which is a great thing. If you're like making new friends as an adult living in New York but it makes you think could be taken advantage of if you came men with like penny story in one of them was that because her husband was in the air force she was like he died in combat. And I'm sure like you could find so many people who are dealing with similar losses and their our own life and like form really close connections with them and like no one would be the wiser. Yeah I thought that was so fucked up. Yeah I did too. It's definitely he gave a a modern spin on the whole Munchhausen's like drama crazy. 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You know that I like talking about friendship in general but I thought this was so cute so she starts going to tango classes which was something that was out of our comfort zone and she ends up making all of these friends through it. So there's Kelly whose her best friend and then there's you know Edward and Jemma and then there's like Gemma and Kelly both have like guys of they're seeing so she like makes us robust circle of friends in a new place and I just like I loved that story of like. Hey everything's over. You go somewhere else but you can like still find group of people and what I thought was well I mean. Obviously it's a book it's not real life so it was written this way but I love it. All these people had something darkened their pass. Chew where it wasn't like they were accepting her in spite of what had happened to her. They were like. Oh No we get it And I wrote down this quote because I thought that this was I just really liked it. Says as if your friends don't understand get new friends. Oh man are you going to get new friends on me. No but I mean in her life she was feeling I mean it. Didn't she didn't have a good primary social circle in her past life but like she felt really judge and unsupported by Luke who was her boyfriend and she was like. I'M GONNA go get new friends. What I loved about? This was that she was like this kind of like one of the boys always and like I felt like all she really had in terms of close friends were like other skiers hours and then she was really really tight with her boyfriend luke and his brother Blair so I love seeing her like make these girlfriends. It felt like she was finally making. He knows close girlfriends that you need in your thirties. She never had that. She was just so focused on skiing in her relationship. That's true I like redemption story about somebody becoming girl girl doll face. No is it good. No not really needs some new shows. It's not good it's on Hulu. It's like the new show. They keep advertising but the opening sequence. What's her name? She was from two broke girls anyway. she breaks up with her boyfriend and I think it's a dream. I'm not really sure what's happening. But there is this like fantastical thing where she gets on this bus. And it's all women who've just been broken up with and they need to go back to be reunited with their lost friends like they go to a bus depot. Where like all of their old girlfriends have come to pick pick them up so funny and on the way there she's like? I don't really get what's happening. I'm not into this and the bus drivers like we'll do you want to get off because like You could always become some guys girl and outside the bus. There's all in the desert so weird but there's all these women roaming around and like they're like I love. Football does that he would want wings and like. That's so funny. It's not a good show. I don't recommend it but if you happen to watch it like I did and then be like nope not for me and turn it off. I I did think that that sequence was very funny. Yeah I I don't know where it was It does not sound like a show I want to watch. It's not idea of these women running around. I love the football. I know wings. It was very funny it was just like such A. Yeah trope of like the guy's girl. Yeah anyway what did you you think about. Katie's affair with Gianluca cringing the whole time. Like I just knew you is bad news but like okay so I like he was such a good obviously went too far but it was like yeah like your life just got run go have a fling with the hot tango instructor so I did approve of that but I just knew it was going to go of course as having like a little anxiety diety about it I was like oh I don't like this. I know it's already a mess. But like she wasn't feeling very empowered sexually and he was like I'm GonNa like I'm yeah. Yeah that plotline was actually really interesting too. So there was a whole plotline about how she'd been professional athlete and then in the aftermath that she of her injuries she gained thirty pounds and so it was just like vary at war with her body and like having a different body. And I've talked about this on the podcast ask before but like I gained twenty or thirty pounds like a couple of years ago and I feel that too and I felt like it was written about in such a way where like it wasn't the primary plotline but it was something that like just kept coming up and was in the back of her mind. Yeah and I like. I really felt for her that she was like. She was the first time that they were sleeping to there. She was like Ooh oh like. Yeah I don't want to be on top like she didn't feel her best and he was like no. I think you're sexy. Yeah I liked that so I mean I liked him in some ways I mean he was obviously the bad news. He was good for her. He was like what she needed at the time but she got so attached to him where that was the thing where it was like it would. It's good on paper. But like of course she developed feelings for him. Yeah at route. I also was like very not into but like like I was just like very curious. I I guess cause it felt like there were so many women he was sleeping with and I couldn't tell who is just his dance partner and who he was having sex with and I think that that was the way Andrea wanted us to feel like like. We weren't really sure right. There was just I was is that like girl or I don't know yeah. He was like this guy who was like surrounded by like a Harem of women he had. I'm like dancing. So sexually it was. It was like that guy where you're like. I know you're not a good guy but like I'm not GonNa get attached and like yeah. You're acute like she was. He's just like sucked into his orbit. yoyos attached to those guys. Yeah what about so I wanNA talk more about Katie and penny and like their relationship ship. I'm okay so first of all I want to talk about their parents and I'm curious what your thoughts are on this because you have sisters. Yeah where like in pennies trial l.. It was portrayed that the reason that penny did what she did. Her defense was that she was neglected as child because her parents were so invested in her career. Yeah and in Katie's career rather in Katie was like no like that wasn't the case but like like at some level I feel like most kids feel like that you know it's hard because you have like these rivalries right like I remember. My Dad was so into my sons I felt like my dad. Loved my littlest sister. The most because she was kind of like the guy's girl out of the three of us like Becca and I were very very into like being creative and and making things out out of female clay and painting and Meredith was like the little athlete and like now as an adult. I realized my dad definitely didn't love her more than he loves us but he was just like it just like so into the fact that she wanted to play t-ball. I wanted to play sports. I remember like my sister. This is so bad Becca and I were so happy because meredith that hit a A t-ball like a like we had this like it was like a wiffle ball an aunt. She had this thing. And you hit you step on it. And then it pops the ball up and then hid it and she hit that with a ball through our kitchen window and back and I are like she is going to get in so much trouble and my dad was like he started her baby for Babe Ruth and he was just so proud that my sister was able to hit that balder the window home. I got you so pissed. Yes we're so pissed you know how you are as a kid. You're like so like she's getting in trouble she didn't get in trouble so I think I think it can be hard like when you're you're a kid and you see one of your parents taking to one of your siblings like more than you are being more excited and it wasn't because my dad loved her more it was just because he's a dude like imagine being a third. They're young when they had us like he was my age with three little girls like I'm sure it was amazing. If one of US actually wants to play sports do things. He was interested in so I could see that happening. I could see penny probably resenting how much her the parents were invested. But also if you if you read like the because we read this book twice so I knew it was going to happen and I went back and reread it and I felt like you see what a good sister penny is Katie. When they're young? Yeah and that they have this really wonderful relationship like I it made me teary when Katie I'm I mixing up their knees. When Katie was at that party and That boy rejected her and called her manly and like I felt like penny was like really there for her. And like really you cared so it does not seem that when they were young penny was dealing with all of this stuff but then who knows. Maybe that's why she was shaving her head to get attention for LP she she was like evening out the attention scored because like she was like. If I'm sick then my parents have to pay attention to me. Yes I mean it could have been that I don't know it. Seemed like she was such a good big sister and like loves Katie so much and then just things just kept like one off the rails. I know the thing that I didn't get this was like my. It wasn't a plot hole but like the thing that I didn't get was why Katie's injury was so ruinous to her career. I felt the same way because like like I get it like you are in a bad place mentally because of this trial in your break up in your sister I totally get that but you had the injury and then she like never tried tried to come back from it she was like. Oh No. I'm done and that was one thing that I didn't get wh why it was like so ruinous for her. I felt the same way it was like. She spent her whole life. Trying trying to build this amazing career as a professional skier and then I I understand her. Her state of mind just wasn't great. I was like why wouldn't you try harder to like. I'm also someone if things are going bad. I'm like I'm GonNa throw myself into work and like just like even better because this is something I can actually control. I don't know I didn't really relate to that. I know I mean I guess the other thing thing was like Luke was on the skiing circuit so it was like you don't want to run into your ex boyfriend all the time but like it wasn't explained in a way where I was like when it finally came not what happened to her. It didn't it. Didn't there was a disconnect there was. I was like wait. This is all it 'cause then I was like well. Something really bad must have happened to her after the trial L. so to make this such a career ruined right totally and there wasn't something I know. I thought that she was going to have like a like a real mental breakdown or like. I don't know you know what I thought. It was going to be what I thought it was going to be. That she had an affair with Blair and then like Luke caught him mm-hmm and so she like had to leave because she was like scorned. Oh funny I thought something bad was going to happen between her and that girl Sarah the the bad one. Oh the the one that was like the Ice Queen. I don't know the things we thought there was going to be like some very. I agree I thought there was going to be just like a big a big. What's the word like dramatics? Yeah yeah that was like this is why she can't ski anymore No yeah well. Speaking of Lucan Blair. How did you feel what did you feel about them as characters I mean? Obviously you liked glare more because you were set up to like Blair more. Yes I like them both. I thought that it was like a very wholesome thing that they had. I thought that Luke was such a good boyfriend to Hurley in the early days like remember when and they got together and she was so nervous. She's like we have to stop doing this like I'm going to get attached are your Blair's GonNa find out. This is all going to happen. He's like no. I'm in love with you. Yeah I like that was like that pulled on my heartstrings. Yeah I the one thing that I will say for Luke. So He's obviously set up to. He's a bad boyfriend but one thing that I really liked is that it was set up like why he was a bad boyfriend throughout it. Yeah like there were explanations for all of his negative characteristics aspect so I felt like it was like just like more believable. Where you were like not like this guy's just a terrible person you're like oh I I get it like? He's not a terrible person he's just like really selfish and like you weren't like it wasn't so blame me where it was like a villain Ya yeah. You didn't hate him. You didn't dislike him. Yeah but you definitely were like. Don't date him. Yeah you're like. Oh he's emotionally immature is really selfish like he's not great in all. These ways is yeah. He wasn't equipped to be in a relationship like skiing was his relationship right. I felt so bad for Blair though because at the end. He's like he says something in an obtuse way about how they're someone he loves and like. Yeah she's like who and he's like you know it's you like and I felt so bad like imagine in how awful that would be like growing up to third wheel and like having a crush on your brothers You're brother's girlfriend. It's almost oh my God it's like the reverse American hurricane royals. Oh my God it is. It's like it's fever. I American American royals. Yeah it is where it's like. That would have been so shitty if he was like just standing on the sidelines and was like I'm in love with her too. Yeah But I also felt I. I definitely felt. I don't know if you've felt this way like I pictured them Luke was definitely the more attractive one. Did you think I got the the boy next door. No I didn't get that. I mentioned that Blair is shorter. Yes got that. He was shorter but at one point she talks about his leg. Nick Surfer lifeguard good looks and I was picturing him as like a Ken doll embodied basically. I was picturing them both as attractive. But I was picturing Blair as Lake AAC more attractive but he was older because it felt like the reason that she well. She says a one point where she was like He. They both just seems so out of my league. So in Luke made a move move. I went with it where it was like. Because wasn't it that her sister her sister's friend was like I had my money on her getting together with Blair and she was like so shocked. Walked where she was like. She wasn't even thinking about them because she just like felt like they were out of her league. Yeah Yeah I feel like I felt like they were kind of like the Hemsworth brothers like it was a really hot one and then I think Luke I think his name is Luke. Hemsworth is the shorter one. Isn't there's there's there's Chris Liam and Luke is is their fourth one. I don't think there's a okay so there's a flat line on the place. Do you watch the place. I do. Not The us to hear the worst. I layers of plotline with Larry Hemsworth who must be made up interesting. WHO's like the self conscious other hemsworth brother? Oh that's really funny. I thought he was real. It's like the Jonas brothers and they have the bonus Jonas. No I think it's there's three of them and they're they're all very good looking but like Chris Liam are like hot and the other one whose name I'm on here. What does this have to do with his book? It has to do with these two brothers. One of them is like tall and good looking and the other one's like medium good-looking and shorter. Oh I thought I read it as if they were both really. Oh good liquor now I mean you knew there. I felt like they were both attractive but I felt like she picked the younger hotter one Yeah I've felt like she picked the younger one because he was closer in her age. Okay and then like 'cause when you're young because she grown older bill so out of your lease fourteen to eighteen is like insurmountable age gap and it was like now. It was like Chris. Would you somebody who's four years older than you and you're like nothing. Yeah no I just think. It's definitely a huge deal when you're younger and I think also she felt like these brothers were both so out of her league so in one of them like yeah out with her she was like okay. I'm in yeah. Yeah we're like Leonardo DiCaprio showed up up and he wanted to make out with me. I wouldn't be like you're kind of problematic. I would just be like he were on my walls as a child. Yeah absolutely grace. I One last question for you. Yeah how did you guess what was going to happen. Like how early do gasol is going to happen. I had a feeling that Blair and her. We're going to end up together. No I meant about the Munchhausen's Oh oh no I did not guess it. Oh I didn't know about Munchhausen's really Oh talk shows. Oh I didn't see it coming I I just. I knew something bad happened. I thought that she killed the child which she did. But I didn't realize how she killed the child and honestly I thought she was going to die too. I was pretty sure that she she was dead. When the book started it it did seem that way? Yeah and the way she talked about her and like there was somewhere in the book where she said and to think that. I'm never going to be able to call my sister and I'm never going to be gable to like have Christmas with her and parents die. I'm going to deal with that alone. Yeah that whole thing so I thought that she was dead. It was I mean it was equally. When you find out what happens? It's equally screwed up because she moves to Georgia I think can she like starts another family. Yeah and I was like I was upset. I was like she's still out there. Yeah it it was like disturbing by that was the most disturbing part was like A lot of things were disturbing but the fact that pennies like still out there like I've having babies maybe killing those ones. We didn't talk about this and I feel like we're so at time but I think that was another interesting part of the plot where it was like. What do you want to happen happen when somebody loved something bad where it was like Katie says at one point? She's like I just want her to be like safe from MHM herself until she's no longer able to reproduce you know and it's like do you want her to go to jail and it's like no it's your sister. You don't want her to go to jail like do you. You want her to be like have all these negative things happened. No but it's like but at the same time you don't want her to be able to move to Georgia and do it again. I thought that was an interesting. Like emotional nuance of how Katie was like thinking about her sister. I agree anyway anyway. True talk about some other stuff. Yes US BECO- whether you obsessed with this week. I'm highly obsessed with us so I ordered barefoot dreams socks. They're wonderful. I have some awesome so I can't remember if I've talked about this on the podcast or only in real life but very. I'm struggling this year because my new apartment is very runs. Very cold old versus my old apartment ran very hot so I don't have like the right lounge wear for winter because my old apartment. I wore shorts all year round around because it was so fucking hot in parliament. Yeah I'm like bundled up at all times ours. No so it's like our Belgian shorts and a tank top all winter so I have a few pairs of sweat pants. But I don't never over wearing like shorts really at home. You know what you need. We have now your Dunkin joggers. I don't know if that's what I need. You need more done doctors in your life. They're perfect for lounging. Agree to just a great. Don't know if that's what I need but what I need warm thing so I ordered barefoot dream socks and they're I mean they're expensive. They're only fifteen dollars a pair but it's not like I'm wearing them under shoes so I feel like can wear them for like a few. It's like pajamas. You can wear them a few days. Yeah my congress. They're so soft I have them too. I take them up. I have a pair that lives in my travel bag so that I have them for the plane lane. Oh that's a good idea yeah. I'm sorry I got three pairs. I might need more. They're so soft and you're barefoot dreams Cardigan. I DID GET I. I'm obsessed with that too. I knew at home. It's the perfect uniform. I always laugh so frumpy. It's so frumpy full during the Nordstrom anniversary CEO is talk about it because there's a really good deal and people people were like I don't ever see who wear that and I was like no. It's an heads like clarifies Of course you don't see me where that do you think I'm GonNa go to like some like New York City bar wearing my barefoot. Dreams Cardigan so comfortable. Somebody wanted I talked to my instagram story. The other day I wished mine was honorary. Now I point on. It's behind me. I'm jealous and my one of my friends ends responded to my interim story and she was like it is my Go-to plane outfit. Oh that would be great for the plane. Yeah Yeah Mine is So is on sale and they only had runs really really really big thing and say this looks big huge so they only the large extra large and I was like whatever so I'm like it's just like a lot of comfort that's a very large extra large. It's huge. I mean it runs big but I'm Wa. I'm very cozy in it. Yeah it's very very there. It's so soft it's like it's it's kind of like a socially acceptable bathrobe really is that must be why I like it so much. What are you obsessed with? Mine is So there's a little bit of a story behind it. But it's stony stony clover lane and Lisa do he Sali's do he makes the head Bam that everyone has an. She has really great jewelry. I followed her ever since she left. J. Crew and started her jewelry. Line like I don't know five or six years ago but also there's stony clover lane and I had never heard of them until on the be there in five podcast. I was wondering if that's where you heard about Yes Okay Kennedy. Interviewed the founder. I forget which which one of the founders it was. It wasn't Libya was her sister. And unblinking names. But I thought the interview was so fascinating fascinating like it was like these two young girls. They wanted to go to like the teen choice awards or something so they started this brand and started like on twitter like reaching out to celebrities celebrities and celebrity agents being. Would you like one of our bracelets like it started with bracelets. And now they have these really cute bags. Everything is like monogrammed the with their letters. I gotTa tell you. I think it's like a power of attention thing because that's also where I heard about them through that episode and I listened to it a couple of weeks I maybe I didn't even finish up but like I became aware of them through that. And since then I see it everywhere. Yes you know who has so much snicker. She does oh she does. Yeah you're right but you know who has so much. Is Emma Bench off. Oh yes she does too. It's I literally. It's infiltrated my brain. It everywhere everywhere now and I'm like Oh did this just happen or was I not noticing. I think I wasn't paying attention. And now I see it everywhere. Oh Kathleen Burns. From Carrie. Bradshaw allied has a ton of it to uh-huh so it's super cute I went to this. I went to this party. It was not a party was a breakfast one of my other early mornings this week and Legalese ugliest do he is collaborating with Stony Cloverleaf. On a headband case as well as all these resort themed headbands so got an amazing had ban. You know how you love like lemon a yellow. I got this lemon yellow had ban with pearls on it. It's so cute I site your story I was. I wanted to be like grabbing purple. No they were strict. They're like you can have one. I was like it. Looked like a candy Taylor so many and I just wanted to grab like ten in my friend Carly Carly who You know carly but she was going to have one I was like okay. Cool uh-huh and lemon when they were really policing it but I would be too because it literally. The way that it was set up was like a candy store like they were just like all stacked and I was like with that one. That one So so I was not able to grab one Rebecca. But they're all on the Lisa do he website and they're amazing. And I love my headband case with initials on it you don't love it. No I'm just trying to say that it's very useless. Object it is but you would other stuff and you can put other stuff in it. I like having a specific place for my headband. Because I bought the law over the past this has been a big trend and I don't like they're all kind of in my I put them in my little cabinet with my shoes and my bags and they're just like all all floating in there so it's nice to have a designated spot for my headbands. I'm not suggesting that everyone needs this. Lake Sixty dollar had been box. I think it would be a good like Sassari assessories case for like your necklaces and stuff. When you travel or likes you can use it? You can even use it for makeup like you could use it for a lot of stuff. It's just very cute but I'd never like I feel like this. This brand went from like I didn't know what it was same till like it's literally everything. Same Yeah what about an instrument on instagram. I am loving book Baristas. He says so. We are very obsessive Morgan from NYC book girl and like we obviously have a very inflated opinion of her like. I was like what you're inflator not inflated but I was like well you're correct opinion correct but I think I said something to her like you're like the biggest bookstore grammar out there and she was like no she's like I'm not she was like you have have to take out book Baristas and I don't like book braces as much as Morgan. Because Morgan is our. Our Powell are dedicated. Youth my favorite bookstore grammar but this account is great and as she reviews a lot of great books she seems really cool. I'm a big Fan. Okay what about you Okay can you please look this up right now. Now yes so it's account called fat pompoms. The sounds like something I'm going to love. It's an empty store and I actually. Where do you find these Zazi stores? I feel like you always have that rainbow necklaced Ugas and the key young God so the Rainbow Nicholas was advertised to me. The key chain I just searched keychains on Nazi. This one I was looking to people who are related to this knitting account that I found. Do you know how to make pompoms. pom-pom Acre Michio. I've got four. I have all different sizes. Yeah so I was looking at this. I was looking at related accounts to an account that I like for a knitting account and I found this account and it's an SE store that makes pompoms Jeff's. I'm knocking by from it but I'm incredibly like I. It's it's just joyful to look at its joyful. Look at it they make pom pom wreaths for Christmas. Have you seen the pom-pom wreath. Yes I do not I do not like I love it I like the garlands though no I love love the pump pommery. Oh that's now. I don't like that but I love the garlands. It brings me an immense amount of joy but I will probably never purchase anything from there. Is this her. I have no answer really cute girl on there was the pump. These look like those earrings I have from. What's that brand or does that brand that I love with the pom-poms Oh to last? I have these two less plus for POM POM earrings. And these. Look a lot like that. For some reason. pompoms are something that like feel really joyful to me. Okay I mean I I get that I again I have like I five pom-pom makers and no yarn right now but I'm I'm following her. Yeah what on books on bucks you guys is. I hate being that person. That's like I have no time to read but this week I have had no time to read. I'm still reading. Why was rereading this book for the Book Club? But I'm still reading such a fun on age and I'm loving it but I like I'm only like sixty percent through such a fun age and that's what I was reading last week. I feel slow so I finished such a fun age. wjr because I'm a superior reader you are. Well let's leave. You are kidding now. I'd like life gets busy grabbed Chris. I'm just making fun of you know. I told me to finish last night. It's so good so it's about a black woman who babysitter for white family and the babysitter. It gets accused of kidnapping the child and that happens very early in the book. And then it's kind of about like the aftermath and her relationship with the family and her relationship with her friends and it's great. It's something that I think at once manages to be very Very relevant cultural topics but it's also very light like the book in itself is kind of soapy and like very readable and light But I really really enjoyed it and it comes out I think twelve thirty or twelve thirty one. Okay the very very end of this month yeah. It's a great that's on I. I don't know what's going to happen happened. I'm I'm much further behind. I can't wait to now when you leave. I'm going to be reading. Twist love twist so anyway so I read I Finish such as the one thing I want to talk about. So how'd you re read this book for the book episode because I read it. Probably unlike August didn't quite remember it well enough to talk about it so what I did and this is the first time I've ever done this so I listened to it on audible and I loved it. I loved that experience so you listened to it at twice the speed. I know well I worked my way up. Okay okay. I wish I did that because I felt like I couldn't. I didn't finish rereading it completely and I. I was thinking annoyed at my. I think I'm going to do this for all of the books that we have to reread. It's such a good experience so I also fall asleep when I'm reading. Because they get more have you. Did you have to take that that quiz when you were a child where there was like some test about like. What type of learner are you yes? I'm a visual army to and so I don't usually do audiobooks because I'm not a good auditory learner. I think it's a good way though. If you have already read it and you eat a refresh absolutely so like usually I would never have a use for audiobooks unless I'm reading something and it was so great because I started it when I was on the subway on my way to Penn Station to Philadelphia Shelia and then like you know through the Hullaballoo of leg getting into Penn station getting on the train. Then I was on the train and I was like answering. DMZ where it was like you can do two things at once. kind of that's great. So yes I started at one point two five and worked my way up by the end I was like two point five. I'm GonNa do this in an actually. The hot you're the speed. I felt like the more I had to pay attention to it which was good. I'm talking sir. Talk so fast you can still understand it and it was such a great way like got a refresher interesting. Yeah and I think the book was like originally. It was like ten hours. So you know you could knock it out and I probably knocked out in like six. Okay Anyway. Yeah if you liked this book tomorrow we have entered on the podcast. Talk about this book and she has a dark secret yes us. Oh my God I can't wait for you is to know and I don't WanNa spoil it and if you need a new book to read in December we are reading one day in December which is a Christmas themed book from last year and it was one of my favorite books that I read last year. Actually I'm actually so excited to reread this because I forget what happens. My copy just came in the mail from Amazon today but Let's just remember that I loved it. Sounds like you can't wait. I won't be doing out of your book for this one. I'm going to be read in the book so so good. Yeah and if you'd like more of us you can come join our facebook group and tell me what happened to Brittany Murphy. Yes you can. Follow was on at Bat on paper. podcast I'm on instagram. At Beckenham Freeman. I wanted Instagram at Grace Atwood and I also blog every day at the stripe dot com. And that's that's what we got. 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Avengers 4: What About the None-Dust Snap Deaths? - Mailbag

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Avengers 4: What About the None-Dust Snap Deaths? - Mailbag

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Who would you cast share Dion and tie wonder a wonder if you're going to have any of this similar ones that I have because I use a little tougher because you right? You have to think about younger actors weight, but then you also have to call into question. Are we casting eight? Appropriate actors or are they going to be in their early twenties. Probably early twenty. That's my guess. But even still you have to watch some of these shows that shows or movies that fit, you know, the age range, and to be honest. I don't watch that many of them. So I had to think of which shows I actually watched or which movies actually watched fit those actors in. So here we go. I have for share. I have Lilly Reinhardt who plays Betty Cooper from Riverdale. Okay. Thank alone. I thought was an obvious choice was for Dion. I picked his India zendaya than day to you're asking the wrong person. I was everyone yells it. I don't know if which ones I'm saying I've had people tell me which versions correct like dozens of times, I always forget the adoring. I think kept getting mad that we well pronouncing it I can be mad at him for ever until he watches the long list of movie. That I insist he needs. There's a lot of these. He hasn't yet. I think Gaza there being one of them. I think he said he had he had seen. No. I don't think he had seen clueless. Probably. And then tie. I went with Laura Condor from all the boys. Another one. Just because I thought she could fit into that role made famous by Brittany Murphy. And just for bonus for Josh I picked her her coastal who by the way, what's his name Noah sentence centennial. If you follow net flicks. You would think you could replace net. Flicks is Instagram with the Noah Centeno like fan club is like half the posts are about like him in like it's like a like a superfan of Noah is just posting goes out there right now. And I kind of understand it. I love that movie. And I love the two of them in it. So before I give you any names at all. I've been thinking a lot about this. And on the one hand, I try to keep an open mind, and there's many things in this in this entertainment world that I'm precious about and I don't wanna see them changed. I don't wanna see their legacy hurt. But I also try to keep in mind by maybe doing a new version by continuing it by modernizing, it you'll have a wider viewership, except something you love that. They might not have been exposed to originally. But then later yesterday, the news dropped that. We're getting another Emma adaptation and clueless is loosely. Based on that, Jane Austen novel. So I feel like it kind of just like blew up any positively? I had about it because we don't need it just make a high school movie and don't call it clueless. But it's clearly happening. I think the talent behind it is encouraging. So I'm keeping some hope in play still though, I think that if they're going to do another clueless movie and they're going to keep the title clueless. We can't recast these three roles. I think any clueless fan will have a very difficult time accepting a new movie, if we just shoe horn in new actors in these roles, so I'm just going to name a bunch of names. But I don't care who they are cast as I just want them to have their own characters. These are just young actors and I'm very excited about right now. Amanda Stemberg Virginia Gardner who we just saw on Halloween Geraldine Viswanathan who is in blockers. You said Lana, Condor, Hailu Richardson. I think she's fantastic and Joey king who actually think might fit the age range a little bit better. But I think. These are just some great actors who deserve a really big movie. And when I talk about some of the guy roles, of course, I have no isn't any o- on my list, miles Robbins, also from blockers and Halloween, Alex wolf, I think is great in the hate you gives Lamar Johnson. I find him just so charming. I think he would fit in this world beautifully. So I don't know what you want to do with this list, but cast them as something and just don't keep the same exact roles from the nineteen ninety-five original when you're talking about clueless in on it to be like rebooted, redone. I feel like there's like those three movies in that kind of John Rudd that like I feel like younger people don't want to be touched one being clueless. Yeah. Second being empire records and the third being mean girls, I can make a case for an pirates. I know you know, how much I love empire records. But it's I think the so I don't really understand, you know, with the idea of Emma in the matchmaking thing. I don't understand why you can't just say we're gonna make another interpretation of Emma and not make it clueless. 'cause I think in modern times with matchmaking there's something to be said about that. So I hope that they may be steer away from doing a copy and paste of the original clueless with empire records. I think it would be a really interesting story to take the idea of the change that significantly know exactly though. But you know, like, the little mom and pop record store fighting against the big corporation. I think nowadays, especially with so much digital music out there, there could be something interesting in that as well. Definitely have the ton of people like hanging out over at music festivals. And prayer records is supposed to be like Tower Records. Yeah. Like, a mom and pop version as well Tower Records, I guess is more of a chain. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean just in in size and scope. You're not finding a record sorta record store of that size anywhere today. I don't really think there's there's an equivalent of empire records or even music town for that matter. All right want to take us into question. Two from Instagram. We have secrets eighty nine and rights. I would love to hear your thoughts on how true low budget indie films, Allah Clark's can make a splash in today's indie scene, given that most popular Indies today have a budget of two to ten million dollars. I know I've asked this before, but I'm very curious for my own practical reasons, so with this question, I feel like before I even answer anything I need to point out that there's no guaranteed answer. I feel like every small independent movie out there that doesn't have a big studio or company or a famous name. Backing it it it's a challenge. No matter what in your essentially taking a risk, but having come from the film school realm where there was such strong importance placed on. Festivals? And what they do in terms of getting new talent, new filmmakers, and you know, really small films into the public eye mooring to get people to start talking about them more. That's always something that seemed very valuable to me. But again, it is a major risk and applying to those festivals cost a lot of money. And even if you apply there's no guarantee you're going to get in. And then there's also no guarantee that your movie is going to be the head of the festival. So no matter what you're doing here. It's a major risk. But another thing that could be useful. If you're able to do it is recruiting some sort of a millionaire whether it be an executive producer or a star for your movie something where that person has a following. And it gives you a wider pool of people to maybe get your movie in front of. But you know, the list of things can go on and on. But the truth of the matter is when you're a small independent movie. It's a challenge to make waves. We do wind up with the lucky ones that pop every so often, but it's not easy. I think the landscape has significantly changed. Since the mid nineties to late nineties you talking about. You know, I think what you're talking about something like clerks something like swingers something like Blair witch, where it's like there's no names involved in really he got buzzed through festivals. And then basically picked up for distribution nowadays. What you're seeing is some of these productions that are what you're saying like two to ten million dollars that have names attached to them. They just haven't picked up distribution yet. And you know, at some point they're going to be in that regards. It's tougher for the indie film scene in in going that route that traditional let's do the festival, and they get picked up by distributor, however, because of digital media and internet distribution you talking about one it's easier to make them movie than it was before. Just technology wise is much cheaper. You don't have to pay for films talk at it develop in like editing was much more cost there now and then to promotion with social media online with Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all that stuff, and then also distribution. And you're talking about Netflix. There's a director his name's Ryan cou he started that website called no film school dot com. And for years and years he wanted to make a movie any finally made one he doesn't have any big names in the main character is an actor plays. I think the son in that show power on stars. It's a basketball movie. It's the best. One powers not best. No. I've actually watched a couple of seasons of power. It's very good show. So, but I mean, that's not like a name, you're really, and then he got distribution through Netflix. You know what I mean? So there's like a different path right in terms of. But if you're talking about like, you're gonna make a low budget indie movie with no names and gain that into the theater, that's that's a much harder proposition with the rise of streaming services. It's only gonna get more and more difficult to find the Africa theatrical distribution, and you know, cost effective theatrical distribution too. So I think if your goal is just to get some sort of distribution, I think, you know, in indie film, can you can get, you know, maybe some not huge names. But maybe some names that you know, actors who are supporting characters on on TV shows or movies that aren't used to getting leads Omar open to being in your movie, if you cast them as the lead character, right? Then they won't have that thing on their resume and something in part of their real to show. Okay. I can carry this film. I think that's a good route to go pretty move on number three. All right. This one is a Twitter question from Leedle, man, Japan who writes so bohemian rhapsody is at a fifty three percent. I know Perry and other critics I follow praised the film but half the critics on rotten tomatoes gave it a rotten review with a five point six out of ten average. I don't wanna pay full price for this film. Now. Can you guys understand the criticisms you've seen it, right? Yeah. I saw this past Monday. I enjoyed it. I I don't think I enjoyed as much as you and Christian because the Christian have it is like your favorite movie the year. Yeah. I definitely do. See why some people have criticisms over the movie the movie is? It's fun to watch. It's entertain the music is great scenes that that are shot at the concerts are fantastic. It is a like a glossed over version of the story of Queen. And Freddie Mercury. They don't delve deeply into his you know, dealing with aids or even just kind of lifestyle beforehand. I know Sasha baron Cohen who was originally cast in this role. He ended up leaving because he had strife with with the band because band. According to his words band thought, the movie was actually about how the band continue on after for passed away, which which doesn't happen in the movie anyways. But that's his interpretation of why left, and and you don't see that. But you do see that the movies to further the name of Queen in the brand of Queen. And there are some. Nice moments in it. But they do also have some melodramatic stuff. I would say that scene in the rain a bit millet dramatic, not overly some unwatchable or anything like that. But what I'm saying is I can see criticisms of this movie. I didn't have a huge problem with them. But I could see other people having the same thing. I don't think that I don't think audience both. Oh, I think this is a venom type situation, I know this totally different movies. But I think it's venom type situation where fans are gonna watch this moving. They're going to joy it and they won't care. It feels like a crowd pleaser to me, it feels like a crowd pleaser, but I've had a lot of conversations with people since I I saw the movie and my review reflects my response to my very first viewing a bookie Mian rhapsody, which I went into being familiar with queen's greatest hits and the bare bone bullet points of their true story, and since having conversations with other people who had seen the movie I find that what seems to be upsetting. Many of them is the fact that this takes. A lot of liberties with that true story. So there's that. And there's also just the treatment of Freddie, Mercury as a character. And how it kind of puts the other band members on a pedestal, and I can see that too. I understand where that's coming from. But during my first viewing of the movie, that's not how I read it. I read it as I was experienced experiencing all of this through the eyes of Freddie Mercury. And you know, when sometimes like, you're having trouble with something and everything around you. It's the grass is always greener kind of thing, you always view someone as being all they're totally fine. They're standing on two feet. They're doing great. I think I was just so engrossed in his take on everything that was happening around him that that's kind of how I read some of those sequences, and then as you get into that Live Aid bit at the end of the movie, it's that's where the crowd pleasing element comes from. That's where that's where it really happens at it takes hold. And I think that's where my reaction of having walked out being like emotionally rocked to the core came from was just the. A Bill to that. And that is pretty much where my final score came from with the movie too. I was just I was bowled over with how how much I felt at the end of that. So. While I can see and understand the criticisms until I see it again. Because once you hear about all those criticisms, they're not gonna leave my mind. So I'm very curious to go back and watch it again and see if maybe that impacts how I feel about the movie, and if it does change it, that's fine. It's the nature of sharing thoughts and the nature of watching movies more and more over time. But I do see this as being maybe a really good crowd-pleaser as far as box office is concerned. And as far as let's say cinema score is concerned. So I do think we could see a big deviation between cinema score and rotten tomatoes on this one. I think so that's why I brought up Venema. It's one of those things where people watch not gonna care. They they're going to get what they want. They came to see which is entertaining music entertaining. Sewri even some of the things are not exactly true. It's a gloss over. I almost be pictured. This version is the version that that the band, obviously. Because they were involved with the movie, but also, Freddie Mercury himself would have wanted. He I don't think he would have wanted to touch onto some of the darker parts of his life. You know what I mean? I think he because I don't want to spoil anything. But there's there's there's something about his character is a line that he has in the movie that kind of illustrate s- why the movie is this away. So I don't know. It's you know, it's a difficult thing to figure out where the right balances because I walked to. And I think I needed this at this point in time, I walked out with my heart so full and just wanting to wanting to listen to more Queen one share this movie, and it's good feelings with everybody. So I think I was so overwhelmed by that. But it also does call into question. The idea of if Mahim Ian rhapsody is a movie that's going to contribute to the long term legacy of Queen. How much changing is too much changing to the real story? You know where where? Do you kind of draw the line between making making an entertaining film that adapts a true story to suit the medium, and where do you draw the line between that and staying truthful to their story? You know what I mean? And also, even let's say, I mean, I know there are there were liberties taken with the actual true story and things were changed and for the betterment of maybe the the look for Queen, Freddie. Mercury. Let's say hypothetically, nothing was changed. Even still what you pick out to showcase can change movie looks right? You your let's say your life is from here to here. And you have so many ups and downs and ups and downs. Well, if you only pick up your showcase your up. Let's like your life is fabulous. Right. Let's say you only pick your your down moments than your life. Looks very sad and depressing. When life is really, you know both. I mean, most people's lives are both. So it's it's what you choose to show. No, that's true. It's what you choose to. Show. And how you choose to show it to whether you go, you know, the conventional crowd-pleasing route or you have a darker tone to your movie. Yeah. I think I think for people who aren't interested who not interested, but don't care that much about like true like this has to be on one hundred percent accurate or whatnot. And maybe if you're not even familiar with queens back has rooch, I think most people aren't I I would guess ninety five percents of people going to see the movie, they know Queen they know queens music. They know Freddie, Mercury, but they don't really know like the entire back history. And so they will be they will be entertained. As as I was as I was to clearly all right question. Number four. I'm sorry. It's really long one. Yes. All right. Stephen on Email rights. Hey, hi, collider. I know the vendors will bring everyone who has taken by the snap back. Well, we don't know if that's one hundred percent true. But what about the thousands and thousands of cross the universe? Millions and millions of people who died as a result of this now will the dress that for instance, all the past plane passengers whose pilots vanished or the world descended into chaos and fights breaking out are they just going to use the time stone. What about all the soul stone theories? I know the theory is that everyone is trapped inside the soul stone. So if they are released from the soul stone, they also turn back time will they also turn back time. I think the damage done by the snap will be too great, even if they kill Aniston reverse this net without turning back time. Sorry. This isn't a concise question if you have already covered this question came directly to the episode. I'm really. Curious what you guys think? So what he's basically asking is. There's going to be a lot of deaths resulting from the collateral damage of the snap the snap itself. Disappearing dusting. Yes. But like something else happens after that. And you die. Will you come back if they reverse this snap so okay to answer that question? I will you come back. If if you're versus nap. So the way the way I see it as if any lives, go into the soul stone. It is strictly those who are dusted. So the people who let's say are on a plane where there pilot is dusted. I think they are dead. But I also feel like the MC you is going to find a way to one either not address the extensive life loss or be able to turn back time and completely wipe the slate clean, but one way or the other I love this question because I almost want to see short-form stories of this. Like, I really do. I'm. I'm very fascinated by the average Joes response to super powered individuals and things like that happening like I really wouldn't mind if before this is never going to happen. This is just in my brain dreaming things up that I want paving the way to avengers for if they would release short films that would show just you know, like any old person wherever they aren't like could you imagine just like could you imagine we're sitting here at mailbag? And you're just talking at all of a sudden I like blew away. Would you do though my mind would be blown? Yeah. Like in utter shock own my God would steal Cousteau on my desk. Probably probably after after a brief like, you know morning. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you'll get me even like a hot second of Greek. But I do think that that kind of just like human mind frame would be really interesting to explore especially compared to all the main superhero characters that were aware of maybe not specifically aware of exactly what would happen if then is was able to snap. But we're aware of certain stakes that they were up against the entire run of avengers Infinity ward, I think the thing is is the short films on the shots on Blu rays. But there's nothing coming. Well, man, Damian come out. Maybe amen. I don't know if they do I don't think they'd do one shop anymore though. It would be saying about paternity. Yeah. I agree with you. I think anyone who dies impair shes as collateral damage would would not be in the soul stone, and therefore would not come back. The only way you could have them come back is you know, there's been a lot theories unturned of alternate realities and universes or turning back time time travel that stuff then you can say those people didn't perish. But yeah, I think they're just gonna cost over, and I don't think they're gonna mention I think the the movies going to do what's gonna do. It's gonna fix, you know. You know, maybe not bring back all the heroes, but most of them leave or doing this speculate theory of trading lives. In. Then they'll bring back the people who are snapped dusted and the collateral damage. They're just they're gonna mention them. They're just not going to mention them. But they'll remain dead this. I'm still going the time travel route. Okay. I bet they they use time travel flashbacks, whatever you wanna call it to kind of fix what happened, and we wind up in a place where that massive amount of life loss isn't even an issue. Okay. Do you think that we will be by the end of the vendors for being alternate reality? Like, so by the time, the movie ends, we're not in the same reality that we were let's say the iron man from two thousand eight on reality. I don't wanna completely eliminate the possibility because I do think there's a chance that's going to happen. I if I had pick one or the other right now, I would side towards a no though. I think yes. Okay. I think we're and for is going to be vastly different. But there will be some differences. I mean, it really would be a cool thing considering we're constantly talking about, you know, the more MC you movies. They make the are we ever going to hit the point where we're tired of getting the same old thing playing in the same old world over and over. So when you're just talking about creative possibilities having it take place in that kind of universe could really spice things up in a new fresh way. I mean, we're expecting there's resolution. Yep. And imagine if they ended it with like, another cliffhanger something like like Thanos is on some sort of thrown on earth. And like, I think people would lose their mind betting against it. Like negativity. I really do think that eventually four needs to tee up the next phase in a way that leaves you feeling some stability at the end of it. I do know that like we're deep into all this stuff. So we we we had an idea that the vendors. War was going to end on a cliffhanger. But there was a good portion of the audience at didn't. And they were like, oh my God. Like seriously, like there was some people that didn't like I you know, when they did the whole Infinity part or part one and part two. And then they changed four to be like part to any more. I was like. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right, please. And then whatever name they're going to eventually reveal of what it is. It is it is infant park to. Well. I was betting on a cliffhanger. But I never was. I still was not prepared for what we got though. Neither I don't think I'll ever forget sitting in that and seeing that for the first time. Yeah. That was a pretty cool moment. It was it was cool and upsetting and they're going to reverse it. All right. We have one more question to hit. This one is a Twitter question from John Carrefour who writes when you were a kid. What was your fund is Halloween memory or memories with you hollowing has has very? Positive in some very negative memories me, so but I'll talk about the positive ones, I think mostly. Me and my sister who's like three years younger than me. We used to go out and triggered street together. And the best part was always when you come back home, and you start taking inventory of when you sit there on the floor. You used to trade we did. But the problem with me and her had very similar taste. So you know, what? I mean, we both didn't like. Almond joy or mounds. Almond don's. You don't get a taste for those until you get older some people did black liquor sh-. We never lie. So don't like, black licorice. So we would take him. But that's the funnest part at the end of the night. You you sit down on the floor, and you dump out on your candy and start putting everything in piles. See how much you got to each one. And then you know, that that is my fondest memory following. But why do you not like Halloween or nothing to do with Halloween say? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. My fonder memories. I think are probably of a local place called they used to call it. The spooky walk. It's a play like a garden type place, but for three nights before and leading before and during Halloween, they have a bunch of, you know, local kids, and it's usually I guess it's it's high schoolers they come in and they dress up and they jump out and scare you, but it's like a big community event. And I just remember it was like the ultimate Halloween activity to do. And when I hit the age where I was actually able to dress up and scare people. It was the most exciting thing in the world. So I would say that's probably up there from childhood. And then when I got a little older, and I started working at New York one one of my first assignments there was to cover the New York City Halloween parade in the in the village. And wow, is that impressive. They just have waves of all different people dressed up, and it's some of the most impressive costume work. I've ever seen. But just to be able to celebrate my fav-. Holiday in my favorite city. Like that on never forget it. I think I remember I think it was during college where me group of friends that we've volunteered to like some kids thing where like they made a haunted lick. It was a very tame in mild haunted house. You couldn't like really like scare you know, what I mean? Yeah. But they enjoyed their time. And it was a very small. It was like a few rooms, you know, what I mean? And you just you would jump out jump LA, very, you know, what I mean? Like you win like trading. This little kids little kids. You don't wanna see you gentlemen, from behind a corner scared something that didn't say a good memory. It wasn't hollowing the Halloween relate is I just went to Disneyland. So so me, and my girlfriend we went there. And you know, I that's my first time. First of all, I don't go to Disney office. It'd been like maybe fifteen plus years since I've been and this is the first time I ever went during Disneyland. So they had the giant like. Like Mickey turn in the front. You can take pictures haunted mansion, which I said, I told Frank who loves nightmare before Christmas. The they redecorate the whole ride under the nightmare before Christmas themes. So it was cool seeing that and and seen just the whole park how embrace Halloween we need to go there. I'm surprised I've never done it for Halloween. But for whatever reason, I just haven't. All right. That's it. That's your your Saturday edition of collider. Melvin with a nice little Halloween spin on the end of it. I think we're probably going to go celebrate Halloween after you watch this episode of mailbag. So maybe we'll post some pictures of not well, not me dressed up because all of my effort, this Halloween goes into dress up as well. I'm very easy. I mean. Not going to dress up at all. And I could just call myself do his mom and walk around showing pictures of him his his costume took a little work. So I put a little too much time into that. Are you going to dress up? Yeah. I'm going to dress up. Okay. We're both going in the same. Tonight. So well, I'm still looking forward to seeing. I got to figure out what I'm going to do probably wear like slasher, tea or something. Sorry, guys. I suck. All right. That's it look out for those pictures on Instagram or something. But I we have another mailbag episode coming your way bright and early tomorrow morning. So stay tuned for that like share this one season pipebomb investigation. Trump blames media, I'm Tim Maguire and AP newsmen. Federal authorities arrested a Florida man with a criminal history and was a supporter of President Trump accusing him of sending at least thirteen mail bombs to prominent Democrats in their supporters FBI director, Christopher Wray says investigators found a key piece of evidence uncovered a late and fingerprint from one of the envelopes containing an IUD that had been sent to congresswoman Maxine Waters, we have confirmed this fingerprint is that of Caesar Sayeh faces at least five charges in connection with the investigation. President Trump at a political rally in Charlotte North Carolina praised the investigation and the NASA media. Coverage of the pipe bomb mailing. We have seen an effort by the media in recent hours to use the sinister actions of one individual to score political points against me and the Republican party. I'm Tim McGuire.

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358: Bro Job (w/Grace Helbig and Mamrie Hart!)

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358: Bro Job (w/Grace Helbig and Mamrie Hart!)

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Take on his neck. Advice? Plex come us up the stomach symposium next. Episode thomas. Let it go. Get it gets to get to the show middle dishes, folks. Jason. Is this shocks? That gets pitchy. I'm just playing guys. You know, love you that was it. All right dots. Initial reactions it sounded like a knockoff of Eminem, Allah, a six lit. But. Yeah, those candies. No way were. Hey, we're. College tour. It made me angry and want to support you guys at the same time over that's our brain. Yeah. It's a it's a parody of kill shot that he's calling Jew shot. Nice anti-semitic a little bit. They make music and use a videos under the moniker addicted to pronounce the dictated to on YouTube. Hope you enjoy this. Thanks for all the years. That was a great Eminem impression that do you? Sorry. I should introduce you name race studio. No introduction. Never mind. Can I take it back? Yeah. All right. You guys know who these people are when you said their name. Yeah. Starting now. So pretend that song just ended. Okay. Okay. Do you listen to Eminem? Not actively he's problematic. But yes, I was just telling grace about when I got in a fight and the audience of mile because he revved me up so much. What what happened? You went to eight mile. Maybe went and saw eight mile in a movie theater because why not? Yeah. It was opening night. I'm people she had hush some people got aggressive hushing to the point where we got in each other's faces battle. To leave. And then I was like mom spaghetti bit. Wow. That's cool. Was it during the exciting moment. The rap battling partners. Just like Brittany Murphy getting high in a parking lot. I think I like see your shush. Yeah. At the downside. But wait a second were they were they like rowdy like supporting Eminem or they would just like talking too much. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big pet. Peeve of mine. They weren't saying like, yeah. Marshall, get them m b rabbit manning from that. The movie budget having the courage to shush somebody at an angry. That's her like superpower. Yeah. I didn't ask to be here. All right. What about this somebody's on their phone couple rows in front leaning over and doing that? Can you put that away? What's their brightness level high? God what it's two rows away. I would probably swallow it or move seats next to you. Oh, then that's my friend, and I will slap it down. Yeah. Been there. You ever check your phone during a movie only if I like to go to movies in the morning movies at like ten AM. Well, so it's pretty empty like reduces, my shushing Zayed's and better parking. And then, you know, it's noon, and you've already seen a movie. Lovely go try day. I'm so there's less people. So I will occasionally peop- my phone. Very low brightness. There's nobody that it doesn't matter. You're either. Demands respect. What was the last movie you saw ten in the morning? So I think oceans eighteen well how many were there? Female one. Oh, yeah. Can you believe it? Grace Helbig has never seen a movie in her life. Oh, I saw stars born I felt sleep because it was too long of a day and not the right choice on a Saturday night to go. See a movie. Yeah. Citing nine AM with maim Ray over here. That's what I'm saying crowd. Yeah. Get a bagel movie. Great sounds. So you sneak in a little Bailey. That's good in your coffee Bailey. Bailey. Movie theaters, by the way in the morning is good though. No shit. That's why you had the Baileys. I see. So it's nine AM. You're getting drunk. You're watching a star is born and you're fully awake. God bless. I wish I could get drunk often coffee. She's. I don't know if you guys know, but this is an advice show. So we're here to help people out. These are people who have written into us. And they're in sticky situations, they need our wisdom. Sometimes just being Jake today. We have grace Mamer here to help us out. So if you're ready if you're ready vice from someone who already says, they get into fights and drink in the morning. Establish. The movie theater getting drunk at nine AM our advice. Yeah. But low brightness yellow bright low brightness. All right here is a question from female listener new listener, Mary do you have a name for this lady? We're we're going to refer to her as with a fake name just to preserve in animosity. So we're not gonna use her real name. We're gonna use a fake name that you can help us provide Antonia pebbles. That's great. You didn't have to be so nervous. Perfect and Tonia Antonia pebbles when she goes with by Tony with an eye. Cool. That's a great name international spy. Sony pebbles rights. Hey, guys. Listen. Gumshoe detective. San diego. Just just started shooting into the pot a few months ago, and I'm almost all the way back to the beginning. I have quite the predicament that I would appreciate your guys perspective on me and my boyfriend have been together for a little over a year now, and we're going strong. We communicate very well for the most part and have a great understanding between each other. And I honestly want to spend the rest of my life with this, man. But here's the issue. There's always a but the rest of my life with this guy, but there's one caveat him. And I were friends for eight years before we started dating. We started our friendship flirty from the get-go, but never made it official until a year ago throughout our eight year friendship. We have been separately in different relationships. But the only thing is as his girlfriend now, I find myself thinking about the past relationships a lot particularly with his most current ex since we were originally friends to begin with shared the intimate. Details about their past about their past relationship with me, including what they would do during sex romantic trips. They would take and. Things he would do for her. Well, this sucks for me. Our relationship is amazing. But it's missing those spontaneous romantic times do our current financial situation. And sadly, I don't feel the most adequate imbed getting better now. But still since I was previously a five year relationship with the guy lost my v card to now. I know I shouldn't compare. But it's hard not to when I know all the intimate details about his past. And now I wish I didn't know Jacobs said before that not all information should be shared with your significant other. And I agree. I'm so smart. Yeah. I do agree with myself three years shit light. If people you love. But since this is already out there. What should I do to both elevate our relationship to where I don't feel conscious about that stuff anymore and for myself to hopefully move on for my man's pass to your perspective and take on this dilemma would be greatly appreciated? Sorry for the long Email. Love you guys love Tony pebble. Tony pebbles. Doesn't sound like she would have a problem ever accept. Fixes problems. Where do you guys land on the knowing about your current lovers? Ex lover's. Do you wanna know everything they want to nothing somewhere in between? I want to know nothing. Nothing. A friendship before. Keeps their friendship clo-. Right wasn't digging for info saying general, where do you live? I was just saying. In general. You don't want to. It's a mix. I think. But then when it gets too far, it's good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. There's a problem it helps to know where it came from. And if you don't trust me why. And then it comes out that somebody cheated on them understand. How a person I'm dating had sex with someone. They went on vacation you wanna know trust issues. Not like how much more emotional issues. You wanna know about more than physical issue girlfriend wants telling me that like she had her ex boyfriend liked when she blew him really, really fast. Like, I. I really wish I didn't know that. I it can't on here. It was fifteen years ago. Who is the who's the girl ago? Yeah. Sure. I was going to say and the ex. Yeah, let's hear them. All I promise. I'll bleep them. Maybe not even come up. I honest to an ally. Probably an icebreaker. I was born in the valley. What else I'm? Devil. Fucking magic bullet. You're not a libra. Yeah. That's a tough situation. It's you wanna say like put the past behind you. But that's like easier said than done. I guess, you know, everything about their sexual past. Then like did he leave anything that they have their something? He hasn't done even to be friends with. It seems that he told the all this information to friend of female friend of his even if they were just friends, it seems like a lot of Tony tables already liked him being the like cool girl who can totally talk about that kind of stuff. And now it's like fuck. I wish I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. Here's my question. Do you think she should have a conversation with this guy, or well, that's up forever? I was gonna ask like has. She said this everything that she's emailed to two strangers that she no order now. Do her actual current boyfriend. Like have they had this conversation where she goes? I'm insecure. Yeah. Right. That's a first step in this situation as she thinks she's sexually advocate. Did. She said she I don't know. I think she thinks that because she's been with one person for five years the guy that she lost her virginity to she said, she's getting better. So her confidence is on the up and up the has she tried super fast blow blowjob? Oh, sorry. I didn't eat a PS. Scripts. She's good for fast. Specifically weird thing. Faster than you think. Imagine what you were thinking times to write like hummingbird. We're talking about like break your brain fast, not like faster than a blow job I'm talking about faster than you can imagine. My head is suspended in time. Just you know, how fast it's happening. You see the look of the guys. Oh, I'm moving slowly it just ends fast. Oh, man. Yeah. I think also like this you have a conversation. And then she should I think, you know, at some point have to commit to being vulnerable in front of this person. If they've been dating for like eight years, then she's got to be like, I'm insecure, but I want to try stuff with you. And like figure out what our rhythm is together lien on the friendship side that you built so much. Oh, that's true. That's something guys have that. He does not have with his ex an eight-year friendships such a solid base. I also think that what this lady is like what she's looking for is. Because she can't forget the past that would be ideal. But you can't do that. But you what you can get is like validation from your boyfriend to be like the past doesn't matter to me. Yeah. And that's not gonna happen. Unless you tell them that. You're why you're upset. She just wants to feel desired person. And if that's a love language like for her. You know, like maybe that's worth talking about with him. Just totally. I appreciate when you make. I feel sexy more than like anything else. Right because he'll never he does not necessarily know that you need a little extra. Yeah. And this point if you guys are dating you don't have to be extra cool about that. You know, you can be like this is what I need best part of having a girlfriend or boyfriend. Super fast. That's the second part. So the first part is being able to share how openly vulnerable your about certain issues and discuss your insecurities and hopefully work past it. Sonic, the hedgehog a book. To sonic. Getting just a flip book. A drill down. There is blurry and fast. A little Kreis. What it's almost? All right next question. Yeah. This one is about oh. A best man issue. Grace. Do you have a fake man's name or a real man's fake name or a fake persons fake name or a real personal person? Really? Yeah. Any name. Anthony pebbles. For seven years. Anthony. Witness protection. They just unfortunately got same name. Let me cut to the chase. My best man in best friend and his wife. Didn't get us anything for me and my wife's wedding to give some perspective. I was one of his groomsmen. And then my fiance gave them three hundred dollars as a wedding gift. I've known this dude for twenty years. I'm the one who introduced him to his wife, am I blowing this out of proportion? Should I talk to him? I mean, it's an awkward thing to bring up help love Anthony say that was beginning. My best man and best friend and his wife. Didn't get me. Got my wife anything for my wedding. I would let it go, bro. Let it go. I would let it go completely. I feel like best man best friend, weddings or so insane. And you're asked to do so much as like as a groomsman best man or maid of honor the amount that person is probably spent just like figuring out your bachelor party like doing things that you're not taking into account is. The nation wedding game plane tickets for sure and also he might have just forgotten which is awkward, but is it worth like making him feel? You know what? I mean. Like, I'm taking score. Yeah. All right. So don't feel like I would be like letting don't don't know that you should bring gift to a wedding ring. A you not just get worse. Yeah. Yeah. Get somebody a gift I've known. I like I literally last year explain to someone that you have to give. Absolutely zero idea days also thought. In life about like, you have to get the person a gift. I didn't realize how expensive weddings were. And I I got married a month ago. Congratulations. How many people didn't give gifts that on your burn list? This is the crazy thing you do keep track because you need to write. Thank you notes. So like and not. I don't really you. Don't need to do anything. But we are writing. Thank you notes. So you like make a list of what everybody got you like the thing they got your money that they get. Yeah. And there are people on there that like didn't give gifts which is totally finally I'll never say anything. But then. Yeah. But somebody this. Listen to this spouse blow jobs. Get me anything. So here's what I was going to say I was going to ignore it forever. But I was told that some people probably did get a gift, and it might have gotten lost. And those people are expecting a thank you. So is this courteous mild? Yeah. I don't know. So into gift get lost. What does that entail? They bought it off the registering sent it somewhere else and not to you know, you get you have like a big basket of stuff at your wedding where people like right, you cards and some of them get left in the hotel room. It's a whole I was so hung over the day after my wedding. We're like shoving stuff into the back of my family's car. Like a card fell on the ground real trickster who switches cards so that they're giving more expensive than that little fucker. You got us a Frigidaire own your fourteen. So now, I I not writing a thank you note to my uncle who didn't get us anything. But my mom is like, no, you're got you something. What do you do that? Yes. You have to ask your uncle. Hey, expecting anything. But if you did get something that got lost in my mom. Do I have a perfect idea in a resolution that I'd no idea? You right everybody. Thank you card. And if they didn't give you a gift like ocean it and give them so it's just like, thanks for a passive aggressive. Thanks for the gift say, thanks for the gift. That's right. And then they're like oh shit. So you either gave gave him a gift and you lost it. But you're saying a possibility or he didn't get you a gifting so shit. I have to get a gift I forgot to get him to give the thank you card services. The reminder. Yeah, I think that's like a little bit too, passive aggressive. But I do think there's something to it. You don't say thank you for the gift. You just write a thank you note to your best man and thank him for everything else. And you don't mention the gift, and that might remind him to get you a gift do like an overarching. Thank you of like like it's not specifically to him like thanks to everyone for attending our wedding. And for the generous gifts. How good of a best man. We don't know. If he actually did throw a good, right, right? You know, all that nonsense at that to do. But. You write a letter. Him. It's also his wife didn't like chime in on it. Either. Those two people that's due out. He's to like, basically yet double duty. According to him. That's what he gave to the wedding. I mean, they call it costs money to. Knows that you give gifts. That's the morgue Regis thing. But this guy got three hundred dollars from the due to wrote the letter. Yeah. At his wedding. So then MO you. That's good. Then. Emoji of a husband and abroad, or whatever also say nothing, and I like the idea of right? It will you write a card that says thank you for your speech or planning my bachelor party or being there for me on the day. All that was such a presence. That's good really an underlying the. I think using quotes or something star casting sounded like do nothing aside from thank you a pretty big thing do nothing. And then the next time the four of you couples or hanging out get your wife to size up into the other one. Deal. But like. Drunk and then explodes out of your could slowly over your best friend over the next ten years. Just start stealing money from them to buy beers. All the time. We'll call mater of your gift to me, you'll say eleven years later exactly just keep a little like a running ledger of who's in the red Hoosen the black. You can even call it ledger. So like this ledger. I'm saying purchase. I guess or it's him because he probably reneged you said it for a laugh. So I think it's disrespectful. Four laugh. It just happened to have gotten the laugh, so this heath ledger that disrespecting. Ledger. Ten things I hit about you two weeks ago fans up. So here's a question about ten things. I hate about you long. It's based on taming of the shrew. Right. So do you think the title of it is an Omani taming of the shoe because it kind of sounds like it sounds like a drunk person trying to say taming? Yeah. Oh shit. I do you think taming of the shrew and ten things I hate about you just happen to sound like the same title. Even though the one is based on the accident. I bet producers noticed it after the fact, right? But you think someone brought it away too far from me. You know, there's a lot of wedding rules, and I get confused about the gift rules, and whether they're ubiquitous whether they're written unwritten people say you have a year, which seems like a huge out for people to the actual wedding to get someone gift. Yeah. A lot of people just cut it away. And they're like, I'll get it. Our people have digital registries where you should definitely. But I do like that. If I was ever to get married which like, no all three of with. No with. I would actually kind of like it. If I did have the prize pop-up ones. Like, I know I've done as wedding gifts before figured out where they're going on their honeymoon in done like champagne today room things like that where you know, if you come home, and you're back in normal life, three months into it. Someone's like, oh, by the way, here's a gift certificate for really nice dinner. Like you're settled in. We didn't want to argue with more gifts. So I do like this one year rule. I should apply. Damore thing. That's a dangerous rule. Birthdays. Here's two gifts. I guess three for next year to I'll probably forget, and then you don't necessarily have to get a gift if it's a destination wedding true or false because it's like you're paying much money. Interesting. Is that a rule or that just things that I've found that? I had not heard that one. But I, but I like it it just makes sense. But I think like a wedding gift is usually to help the bride and groom recoup their costs and start their life anew. What if question what if they're clearly better off than you? Yeah. What if they don't like? Broke bridesmaid, and I just flew to this state destination wedding in Italy at like this crazy villa and to like fly southwest there. Somehow, right. They don't do that. Yeah. Even less extreme. Paint the picture for everybody listening. You really had to fly from buffalo to Italy out. They go to new take a shipping container. The husband and wife both have really good jobs, and you're like I just spent like three grand coming to this wedding. I can't show out another three hundred dollars for you. I think that's totally. I don't think that's a conversation that needs to be had. I think that's probably what depends on the actual friendship dynamic. Yeah. Because you could also entheogen not go to their wedding still send them a gift people do that for us gift, no appearance and appearance. That's the ideal because you don't spend any cash. But you're still getting the gift. World's favorite and a perfect rule. The wedding doesn't even happen. It's just some sort of kick starter for your life. So you don't do the whole ceremony party situation. You save the go fund me. And then you get money to be in love for them. That was a great sex in the city up. Assode? I was is that there was an episode where Carrie Bradshaw, the protagonist our heroes going to she doesn't like the engagement party gift and the wedding gift and how baby shower gifts and all this. And she was just like. I'm just going to register myself as like I'm owed. I'm not getting married, but like I've bought you twenty gifts along the way for your life events. How about just for my life? Celebrate me exactly that's cool very Kerry selfish, which I like. You are Samantha. Samantha loves Carey. And so do know I don't I'm maranda through and through is that the red headed one. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. Think House, Mr pebbles. Oh, yeah. So. My advice is to right. Thank you card. Do you agree or disagree on that? I think still. Thank you. Thank you. Always a fun time. Dial it back. You can genuinely think him for stuff. Yeah. Just on the listen to this podcast. Oh, that's good. And then get the lives drunk. I say the wives drunk. I say that and still if it's still bothering you three months later or however like, yeah. How far does he know about the year? Maybe doesn't know about the euro what you do is you go to dinner, and you you having casual conversations because now you're both married, and he'd be like let me ask you did people give you guys gifts like a longtime after the wedding down on foot. Just like did people like forget because I heard this rule where people have a year, but like genuinely saying you're asking about your wedding and not specifically a really expensive dinner as the scene that you're sitting when it comes over you. And you're like, why don't you get it? But as as a late wedding gift. Yeah. Sort of put on the spot scene. Cool. Everybody never come back to the ever. Again. We're go to dinner with you ever. Again. You wanna shame him or ridicule him for our friendship. Friendship. All right renamed the politics. Settled it. Let's take a break. We'll take some sponsors. 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Let's hear what you got. Here's man solicited. Vice? I have learned my lesson about when I travel I should put all of my things in the safe that is to you in your hotel room when we say put your clothes away. It makes you feel better on packing when I. The safe experience. Did you get robbed this weekend? All my stuff taken out of my room. Where in Chicago, we talked about it on our podcast called this. Mike it weird. Yeah. It's an I think it was taken while I was sleeping. No what? In the middle of the night while you were don't know. It's an open investigation right now. It might have been an open door. We'll hotel Drake hotel has a hotel on my God, he's firing on all cylinders. As it very wheelchairs. They offer. Security footage. I don't know. I talked to security. I talked him on the phone yesterday. I have an ongoing Email conversation with the head of their security. Yeah. Like my phone, my whole wallet with my passport and credit card. So fucking creepy to like see on the security footage that happened in the middle of the night. Like, somebody breaking into your room. I don't know what happened. It was your phone plugged in. It was on my nightstand next to the front door and everything that was taken in the it was all on the same task. And the only things that weren't taken was like a singular credit card that it had on a table further in the room, and Dave and Buster's cards and. That I was sleeping with imbed. Because that's. Issue. So that too. Yes. So used that safe because I also had to fill out, and this is like a passive aggressive mail this morning from this like the head of security and answer all these questions about like, what time did this happen? When did you last see your things, and that did you utilize the safe in the room, and I had to say, no. And then the follow up question was like if no why not. Because you were in the room. Wedding gifts. For when you leave. Right. I don't know of at the safe. You don't put all your belongings whether in your room or not anything that matters to you sleep in the safe. Here's sleep in the same. Make yourself a little safe bed. What time in J F L? I put my passport in the safe. And then I left the airport. The hotel. That's why I don't use the safest 'cause I'm an idiot. So I know I will forget that. I put everything in the same. Nice would be don't travel with your passport unless you're leaving the country. I go high risk high reward Trevor. The second time. This is the reward is that when it doesn't happen every time it doesn't happen. Total reward. What does L when you don't get stolen? Pedal, Chicago, I travel with my passport constantly as the second time. This has happened that while it's on shoulder. And I think you're gonna lose your wallet. But then you'll at least have your passport, I still get into bars. I know I think that I'm going to have to travel internationally, and I will be at the airport, and I will have forgotten my passport. So I keep it with me all the time. If you get a last-minute espionage mission. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long gone Superfund full on gone. So use that safe guys. Okay. That's a good one. And then what's go don't travel with your best one? That's just my friendship with other stuff was stolen too. Not just the passport for the past to have been stolen because it didn't need to be there. Anyway, every yeah. Yeah. What advice? Youtube TV. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I'm not getting paid by that. I'm not gonna promote YouTube TV considering getting it. Yeah. Maybe if you like you can come back and praising advices look at your options. Okay. So much happening. Now that I realized that everything I watched I stream besides like, maybe two hours of TV a week. And so with doing this I'm going to have way faster internet, and I'm saving like eighty bucks a month. That is pretty good. So don't get too comfy. Bills. You watch sports though. No. Yeah. So that's one thing that I like that people are keeping cable for is the fact that you wanna watch live sports. But you're saying you can even do that with. Yeah. I watch live news. And that is my sports. So yeah, it's just as exciting and numbers oriented as a basketball game. Exactly. Whether or not all going to die high stakes totally pretty much the same. Yeah. Actually at gyms. Now, they show news. Instead of sports highlights. I've noticed. Wow. Yeah. It's like usurped the need from like watching old highlights from like, football and basketball. Just like we've seen. Yeah. Now. Let's talk about what the fuck is Blitzer a great name. That happened. Gosh, sounds like he wasn't athlete. Let's are. Here's a question. You talked you touched upon this your podcast this Mike it weird. What is that? It is a podcast, Grayson. I just started a month ago, and essentially, it doesn't have any real form. It's just shooting the ship for half an hour or so and essentially Howie normally catch up before we should've video together we just decided to record it. Yeah. We started this live touring show. This weird y'all a couple years ago. And then we turned it into like a YouTube show for while. And then we got to talk about cutting cords financial cords cut on the show via studio that was supporting us. And so we turned it into an independent podcast way to go. And then it's also a patriot now to it is all kinds of fun stuff. Exciting. Yeah. We're still figuring it out. But so far so good. There is a tear on your patriots. That's perverts that just. Okay. Pervert, Purves fools, and the Purves are paying sixty nine dollars a month all sixteen sold out. So anyone listening wants to be a Perv? Yeah. You have to remain a pervert, we should we should have a pervert tears. So it's just we send you perverted weird sadistic dark shit from our patriot. What do you think we do? I thought yours is a little more happy in light. We'll see. We'll see. It's not replacing the videos you guys make right? No. We're still trying to do that. We're both just, you know, getting you get in those creative slums and right now, the podcast has been really invigorating and good time, which will make me want to make more video to talk about stuff that we don't normally talk about in videos, which is because we don't wanna get demonetized on YouTube. Yeah. Don't go any like the politics of YouTube and stuff, but that's. D monetize? It would just be like there's a. Yeah. Basically shunned. Fully judge. I think we've just like, I don't know. It's a freer space. I have conversations totally. Yeah. And it's easier because you can talk for forty five minutes. And then you have to edit it down, you assemble it and upload showering of it. All the showering. I don't want to shower. I don't wanna be on camera. In this going to be on campus. 'cause I don't wanna too many times I've shown up to a podcast. Good looking person. But. Still like, you know, HD can be a son of a bait. Interesting. That's something we never even considered. When were because we also did this sort of the same switch. We did Jacob videos for call tumor, and they're like we should do a podcast because that'll give fifty like forty five minutes of content to week. And it'll take that much effort. You jacob. I looked pretty ugly. A lot of them. That's awesome. Man. I wish I did look back. You did Email call the other day asking for a few of them to be removed. And they're like is it off base off colored survive or just? Photoshop. Sweet. So you can listen to that podcast anywhere. Anybody? Listen to any podcast all of the things this might get weird. This might get weird. Cool. Do you guys have time to answer a few more questions? Let's get in there. Right. This one's from a man. Do you have a guy's name lost? One was also, of course, tuck say, no, more Brian. Ransack branches the guy that committed the crime. Tuck branches rights. Hey, guys. Hope everything is going well with the patriots. Oh, there we go. I saw you guys in Vancouver part is just nice friendly. Talk of recently fallen go talk recently fallen head over heels for my dream, girl. She's an eleven out of ten smoke show blonde who watches anime and has the same weird sense of humor as I do. She's compassionate great in bed. Just get to the but. No, I want her to be build up on here. How perfect you want her to describe her? But you get to go. Got a great. But. However, I'm not sure if she'll be understanding about this every second week, or so I get super horny for the D And not even men in general just the idea of giving a great bro job for the record. I'm ninety percent straight. I have no desire to have a relationship with any dude. And even the thought of kissing guy weirds me out. I just wanna give a blow job I think that's super hot. So what do I do? I download grinder. And since my profile name is straight guy. I get all sorts of messages coming in. What really gets me going is sending and receiving dick pigs. I don't meet up with anyone. In fact, I've only met guys for BJ's a few times before me, and my ladies started going out, but usually use this app as my version of a gay porn hub until I finish. Then delete the app in shame. So my question is this is this cheating. I would never think of doing this with any girls because. I would much rather do it with my girlfriend, but she doesn't have a penis. Do you think it would be upsetting to find out? I wouldn't mind if she was doing the same thing with girls. But I don't know if it's the same thing the other way around also is there an alternative way to quench my thirst without cheating. Thanks for everything. Come back to Vancouver. And I'll totally blow you. Just kidding. Classic talk. Cheers love. Not kidding. Well, he's smoke. Hey, there's there's a bro job waiting for us. The of your passport. Bring montreal. And your ask port to the bro job. Thing. Yeah. I don't know if I've heard of it. But it's like a friendly guy guy blowjob brewing got what it was the title was like. I don't know if it's like you BIC witness. Yeah. It is now what thinks you would you about man, did this would you? Considerate. She is cheating. Yeah. It's completely cheating, even if well, even I know he doesn't think that if she did it wouldn't matter to him. Well, he's also saying they don't meet up in person. But it's the same few time before they started going out. Now, he just does it for dick pics, then delete the that's I don't think that's cheating. I still do because in the same way. Like if my boyfriend looking at porn, whatever who gives a shit like I watch porn. But if I was specifically sending pictures of myself to someone else. Pam, it's it's a bad. It's a bad move. Yeah. I just don't think it's cheating in the standard sense that I usually few cheating as it would minister shooting, and my sense. We're not in a relationship. I thank God other reasons. I'll take it. Well, the reason I definitely getting the movies thing. Thank you. Yeah. We can do that. Right now, I'm not pulling a Mike Pence don't touch another guy. But I'm just saying I would be very hurt regardless of if he's sending if he's receiving dick pics or giant picks. It's still just a connection with someone else on a sexual level. Yeah. I think it's also a big enough secret that if if she found out she would feel like she didn't know who you really were. So that's like unless she knows like unless like she's like, yeah, I figured that. You're we like you like freaky stuff. Anime you like. Kinda animator you watching. Yeah. I think it's just a conversation because people they have different individual levels of what cheating is so like talk to her about this before it goes too far. And you can't. Would you talk to her about it? Because then you might not even have to. Guilty delete the app every single time. Would you say guilt free dick pics? Then you guys could come to a compromise on what could be a solution for how it works for you guys that fills whatever void he's having. Maybe she wants to happen there. Oh, would you see that this is less cheating? That would be really perfect. Would you say this is less cheating than sending dick pic to a girl? The fact that he's sending it to a guy does that make it less cheating. No. I actually think you need to talk about it more. If you've never discussed like an attraction to dudes before you know, what I mean? It's just a different for the problem. If it's like sending it to other girls, you're like what what am I doing that's making you not faithful? And then if it's, but if he wants to blow other guys you have to discuss his sexuality, and what it means. He is a time line on this. He says every two weeks. So he's like an Africa's goes off. So if this is that frequent that's going to have to be something that you get worked out. It's every full or new moon. He gets onto tendency. It's like a gay where wolf of sorts? Would you say he's ninety percent straight? Or would you question that percentage straightness for him to decide? Yeah. Let's decide for them. Yeah. That's how that works. Also, I don't know why he thinks deleting the app every time is going to change the problem. We'll he's sort of like keeping it far away. When you don't sleep next to your phone. So that you don't wake up and check your Email, and it's gone from your hotel room. Yeah. Sleep next to your phone. Sleep next to the safe. We've been this every single person that wrote in today. Do see what would you say? Tell your lady about your. If not she's she's just gonna find Erie. They're gonna be suppressing it and be unhappy yourself or she's gonna find it and be way more hurt. There needs to be a resolution, and it's either you like you the truth is you like she might not be cool with this at all. And you have to break up because it's part of who you are or she might be totally cool with it or or willing to work for a solution. That would be better than keeping a secret. You never find out unless you talked to her over. Okay. Let's say. Okay. Right. So what about this every two weeks? He gives a bro job. That's fine. It's a secret that he keeps from his whatever. But he promises that in between those two weeks segments. He has to go down on her. So it's like a he's. Keeping the Vega. Transmitting STD's girl that doesn't dirty year perverted or skis easier. Immoral amoral. Really what I'm saying is there's an even trade. So she's getting fulfilled. There. Or is this something he hasn't his head rationalize himself feel guilty. The second one. One about the Arash. Don't be baby burning it onto my the giants. Urban dictionary. Baby. Are you going to Vancouver anytime soon? You guys get to look forward to seeing we're going to go skiing. Man. The last question he has is there an alternative way to quench my thirst without cheating. I mean, he wants to give have strap on. Yeah. But I think like the he's attracted to doing it to do not just like the active, but. To work with that. Is that is that has to have a discussion, you know, obviously. Sneak it. Nineteen. Fast. I can do it. Yeah. To keep it as eager you'd better get in there and get a bird. But here's you could be a radically. Just watch gay porn. I think soliciting of dick pics yet is you gotta tell her teller just watching gay porn. I don't think you do. He's calling me. But also, I feel like there's if he's soliciting dick pic like if he just likes looking at Dick's he can Google image. Search that right? And not be an interpersonal thing. I think the thing he's attracted to is. Like the interpersonal like scandal ish psychology side. The shame is part of the exactly Jackson. That's a deeper thing for him to look into for himself rather than like just like d. Google image searches. Come up with that. Great results. When you do I've done it before. Okay. Just the letter G. Even be doesn't work. You gotta turn the search off. That's it. That's great advice. All right. So he can he can quench some of his thirst, maybe not the whole Thor's to not to get too off topic. But have you ever sent a dick pic? No. That was the reason that I Google search penises before because oh, I could send it. I wanted to. But it didn't want it to be my dick. Oh my gosh. They just sent a black man. Lower-half? The courage to do it. Dick cheney. That's good. That's great dick pic. This is dick though. Yeah. Never sent a dick pic. No. Relationship. Yeah. I sent one. It seems to legal or not illegal Hackel. You don't put it on the cloud tackle. I don't know. What's going on the other end of that? Just on the other end all the time while he's off. You get DP relationships. Yeah. For sure mostly all of the relationships you've ever been in. No, no, just the recent one just the special one, but he travels a lot. So you got to keep it spiced up. Yeah. Maybe like a livestream is more doable. Like FaceTime, plenty of Skype sex. Yeah. That seems more. Yeah. That's normal. FBI watching that until you hear that string. Every six you ever have is three way you better believe that. Jay leno. Yet the president. Oh, you know, he's probably in their these smart enough, really? 'cause I I've been saying some pretty pro-trump things during FaceTime sex assume as watching really his delight your mate. Sweet. That's it. That's our time. We answered some questions we got to the bottom of things they can so much for coming by. What's your podcast name again or anything else you wanted to promote again, it is this might get weird, and you can find it anywhere. You find your podcast. Sweet jake. 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Trash Pandas  Episode 7

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Trash Pandas Episode 7

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot pastor, troy dot com before information. Hi everybody, welcome back to another episode of trash. I'm Lauren. And today we have a pretty good show for you guys. We have a couple of things to talk about. Let's start off with our normal. Lindsey would've been watching this week. maxing. Then Ben's lashing the Golden, girls. Zanu and I'm telling you. It's like do after joke after joke like it's. If you haven't been watching the golden girls or Ben's Russia golden girls. Watch the golden girls. It's so good. It's so good. I used to watch it when I was younger and I. Really Loved Oh my God it so so might just. The writing is fantastic and especially. Betty white her delivery is. Perfect like it's amazing, so that has been one of the ones I've been binge watching. The other one that I've been or that I watched was The Natalie Wood documentary on HBO. And It's produced banker doctorates by her daughter. Yeah, it's made by her daughter, and basically like what I would sum it up to his like if anybody remembers like. True Hollywood stories. Like that's really what it reminded me of like. It's a really big It's a really big look back into her entire career, her childhood, her personal life, and all that, but it also touches on her death, which is. To some. Like a big mystery or a big source of mystery on, didn't you watch like the buzzfeed did well? I watched that that that show that you're talking about as well. But it came out a couple of months ago, and that's when I saw it like on my suggested bore you on. Hulu and I really liked it, but I. don't recall everything that happens. You Can Kinda give the rundown on all that. Yes so base go like as far as her death goes to her family. It's not a mystery like her. Daughter's truly believe that Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken who was also on the boat the night that she just. Had nothing to do with her DA. and they actually believe that she probably fell off a boat trying to secure the. On the of the boat because it was always something that Bothered her like if she could hear the banging of the battle against the side while she's trying to sleep, she would always be like Robert. Bobek the boat, but he was asleep, and so she went out there to try to excite, but she was an abbreviated, and she had like a sleeping pill in her system at the time and. How! And time and ended up drowning, but there is a lot of conspiracy theories, Abou how she actually. I am as far as it may be possibly being a homicide right, and that's what the buzzfeed episode Kinda like touch on and talks about a couple of different theories which you know in from what I recall from the actual show that you're talking about They didn't really do multiple theories of this kind of just like. This is what we think happened in the bus. The I'm watch was Kinda like we're GONNA. Tell you all of the theory. One of them was like alliens and one of them was i. mean it's just like all these different things. Right and I thought that was really interesting. Though that they had said that when they found the Dinnie of ores were locked, so she wasn't actually on it and going anywhere, but that kind of goes to her family's theory was like she wasn't trying to go anywhere. She was just trying to secure the vote against the site, so it was banging up against the side of the boat night like capture away. and the interview Robert Wagner. her husband at this time, and her daughter is one interviewing 'em. And Her daughter had and his made it abundantly clear that like they do not believe that there was any like maliciousness and adopt. Wait like. I was totally an accident. What happened to her? What The weird thing is? Is that like she had vocal, is a that a big fear of her hers was dark water, and she had gotten like a psychic reading or something like when he was younger, Yelich warning her dark water when she was younger and I think a lot of cousins like chuck that and like. That the her daughter makes a really good point and this interview that's on Hbo and is like who like stock, dark water by nobody, nobody is going to go out and voluntarily swim in the ocean night like in the middle of one way. You know so. Her daughter makes like Super Bowl points Dow all that so. I. Don't know at the end of it. I was late I. Believe it was an accident. Yeah, I mean I know. Theories about walking Oh, Ya and like I. Don't think that's true. All what is? Hoping Yeah as far as from what I saw like in the interview they are real or in this argument, every interview like closest friends and they were all. There was no love triangle like she had not mentioned on anything like. This was all blown out of proportion by tabloid, basically to sell more. To sell more tabloids, you know and just tell this story, and and to take advantage of this tragic accident that has happened with that continually hurts the family, and so that's when it's like. Tell such. Should he like 'cause? There's humans their end of the day that are being hurt by this and was nonsense that you can do. MEAN I. Ninety Day fiance. which was basically one? Way signed for the right I can make fun of you. People. were. Sitting. Really. So. I started watching the things I started watching a show that was suggested. My Amazon prime autopsy it was about celebrity. Autopsies autopsied the last hours over the last days of and the very first one is Michael Jackson. And one thing I learned that I didn't know and okay. Maybe I'm just like super behind the Times or something, but when they did his autopsy, as they found out that he had been wearing a wig from like nineteen eighty-four on away. Yeah like full-on wig like. Yeah! They said that he had. Like. Little like hairs around like the the back, and like around the sides, but everything else was just a wig I had no clue I had no clue so. A couple of really really big people is also liberties, so they did like river. Phoenix and I. Don't know if anyone remembers that he liked. The area was outside of a nightclub in started convulsing they did Marilyn Monroe and all the theories her death, and then they also did like Brittany Murphy US something very interesting. Yeah Oh. My grandma side her own. All Bell worked for the LAPD in with a detective. Time of Marilyn Monroe's dot. He actually worker that. fucking wild like I wanted to interview Ham I. Think Life for Real. On and I was like okay, let's you either. And then we'll let well and we were trying to think. Time Line of when he worked in the leap. Right when all that happen, and so like I'm like. I think that he actually would have just spend starting as an officer. At the time of life, the blacks Dalia right, not somebody like. Crazy I would love to get more into like things like that if you have any like. We not to. Watch it and we'll. Learn like I just started by Lauren like you gotTa Watch the ARC Kelly. Ari and so I started washing it, and I just got like Super Sad, and I was like I gotta take a break from because. I didn't realize the amount of abuse that he had suffered as a child and I'm not like at all. Saying like it's okay. But it's it was. You know it's hard to hear like you know. He's a monster. He turned into a monster, but then hearing like okay. This is how he became a monster right, but then there was also psychologists on it and she was like you know. Awada kids and Ben Abuse than a Lotta. Guys have gone through, and they don't end up becoming that. And I was like true fair enough I completely understand it, but there is like the cycle of abuse that ends up happening, and it's sad to know that like that's where it began. Yeah, you know, and that's the thing about the R Kelly documented which I think. We might actually be able to kate an episode of that. Maybe in the future hoop. We'll talk. We'll watch it. We'll talk about it maybe but. You Know I. think There's a lot of people didn't realize like how much was actually happening in this case? And it's really. The same thing Michael Jackson and everything it's like. So many people love him so much that it doesn't matter how much actual. Evidence, they have against him. They're just GONNA. Be like it doesn't matter. He's still like a piece of history or a piece of our. Ends on it, but there are people. Vehemently like root for Michael Jackson R, Kelly and it just like dude at the end of the day. They're monsters, but Ron Stars. Like I was telling her she had not watched it yet, but they HBO documentary on Michael Jackson Yeah. That was just released. This past year was so hard to watch, and it was brutal and but there were things that you heard that because I feel like a lot of people. Judges the victim. Like who would let their child hang out with a grown out man, you know and then, but once you hear how he how Michael Jackson like grooms, the entire family like he knew what he was doing, he was manipulating all of the, and so then once you hear from them like how he went through in like manipulated the parents, and all of them like then you're like. Oh now. I can kind. See how this ended up happening. You use you kinder honor a sand light. You kind of reserve some judgment than at the end of it. You're like okay, so it's not just like not just cut and dry like he used his power He. Used as we started on, he used all of that and was able to manipulate them. Them on medications. Take them to Disneyworld. Take come not all that unlike I'm not saying like reason just never way right? You don't worry. Ranch like he has all these. Laws and also you have to understand that like at the time. This is happening with his victims. He was at the height of his career. So of course they're thinking -ly, there's nothing wrong. You know what I mean like. Yeah, he's my John like he is. The biggest popstar in the world like nothing. Nothing sketchy is happening right and. So you Kinda like understand like the parents thought process like through it all. And then you hear directly from the victim fouled, and it's superpower ball because they talk about how much it has like impacted their lives and light what they had to go through to like overcome the. Of like being sexually assaulted by Michael Jackson, and it's it's. It's a wild, wild wild thing, and like trigger warning like if you've been through sexual assault leg from we don't want. You might not WanNa Watch it, 'cause it's rough. It's very detailed, and it's very vivid and you hear a lot of things that you cannot on here. By at the same time like for me like somebody who is a fan of Michael Jackson, it was like. mind-boggling it was mind boggling. And it puts you in that. Where is that where you're ally? Do I sell us into his music and enjoy him as an artist, or do I SEAN? All of it and you know what? Like, it puts you in that weird spot whereas like. Do. You hate man in the mirror. How do you hate roller? How do you hey? Bad. How do you hate any of his like I mean? His music was Jeanie ass, and and so it would you as a fan in like this like this predicament where it's like I, don't want support that. Yeah, but at the same time. Didn't Ni- like the genius that was. Then Going to support her Kelly but are. A lot of these fits I'm actually, or I was a really big fan. for a long time and I actually memorized all thirty three chapters of trapped in the closet, and I would sing it I read, and I have on DVD and I think it's so funny and clever and. Also a fan of Eisley brought around Eisley had done a bunch of songs with r Kelly that started the whole hip hopper. A thing you know like right. He was basically doing the exact same thing that Eisley was doing as well. So you know after you find something like that about about somebody. The are just lately, you know. A lot of places are like we won't play him. Right to me I'm like by all means. Don't don't nights. Time it's like that's part of as Major. Musical. Yeah I think we talked about like Chris Brown to. Same as domestic violence issued by he, he turns out like it after hit and it's like. We actually need is. Like people in the music industry understanding what's happening at the time is happening and real and cutting them off right immediately reliable. Regardless towns they are. You know so yeah I mean I think that another interesting thing when you and I were talking about her and I had a conversation about the whole Michael. Jackson thing. She's on to watch it and I was asking about. Like MacAulay Culkin. Like he was somebody who is also very famous and he was very. He was very close to Michael and he's stole says to this day that he was never use, but it makes sense to me because it's like if you do it to every single one, then somebody is going to like if somebody's saying that never happens me I. was there all the time? And all this stuff discredits the people during having that issue, and I think also like when you're talking about MC. Museums present flow. Bentley mccully were poking at the time he was hanging out with my goal was lay at the height of his start on, and so Michael Powell wasn't able to manipulate all the people around him right because he probably had a manager that was like no. You need to be honest that you need to be doing. And you. You know what I mean. He wasn't able to like. Fully manipulate the situation whereas like these kids that he did. Their families were like blue collar worker. I read as sort of people where they were like the voting their wives, select kits career in Dan Fang, or like whatever it was. So, he knew who to groom he knew who was Willna Rable, and who is not a classic sign of a pedophile I mean no wing, their manipulate. They're master manipulators, and so he knew like this kid's not going to be a victim, but at the same time I'm gone to children and that was like his. Do have all I can say is It's a very interesting watch I would highly suggest watching it but again trigger warning, because it goes deep into an vividly describes the sexual assaults So total panic ninety, day. Ninety Day so all right I have something to say about that. I hope you do I do I. Hope we do content. Here for the is the top trend of I want to start with Jenny and. I love them and her. She claimed to India finally she actually makes up there and the entire thing like she shows up and they do you know like the like the welcoming ceremony I love that when they bring in, you know a cow, and she's like freaking out because there's a cow inside of her house also, but it was super sweet. I loved it like so some like a range like this whole like traditional Indian like housewarming like where. Like. I feel like we do this league native American. Culture is like you sage. The House like you guessed the house. Right for everything is right welcoming. I knew get rid of like bad energy. You bring him positive energy, and that physically what he had like set off further, their new house in India and It was hilarious like they had. They had johnny in like a flower on her face. She's like. is like just terrified, and then there's a there's a cow outside shitting, and she's like Oh that cows cochet, and then she go, they go and. They start a fire like in the family room, and like reminds me of like us marching ball that you have like if you're injured, which which craft or anything like it looks like a big multiple and they're. They're starting like on fire in there, and it's just like a very traditional, like Indian, ceremony, whatever. And she's like. Fire in my house, and now you're bringing how in my house and they serve breaking a cow and she's like I. Don't want to count. Know Guard like it gets rid of Dad. It brings profit to our family like A. Just love that they were. And I was like am I gonNA be seasoning. On. that. Was a fucking beautiful was a really attractive or within attractive. You're. An eighth like the beautiful flowers. US Nine and you really. Liked. How sacred and It was like it was cool and I was like this is awesome like he is. Bringing Kicks Alternative her. We know from past season that they've had issues. Yeah, felt like him doing this. This mine was found of ten being like you're coming brains knowing that item one hundred percent. Right and I just I love him so much to workout so so bad. And I really believe that they will. So. Yeah, no thought it was super sweet like it's like I'm welcoming you into Michael Tournament showing you how serious I am about you being here and I wanNA blast the House that we're in I thought it was superspy. Leg Off I don't know if if I was in the I would hope by India. Boyfriend would be doing the same thing. Like I. I liked it. They didn't really have much go on with basically her destroying. Yeah, and and I'm going through this like housewarming on the one thing that maybe was like the ooh, that's a problem is like they reiterated in the very beginning of the episode that she saw the got the divorce papers, but I believe in divorce, but I believe is. Maybe? He's not going to get those worst. Until he is fully. Family and we know that he has not fully family. In fact, that's why he bought a house. That was so far outside of the city because as soon as she arrived in. India they have like a super long drive outside the city to get to the House that he bought, and he basically was like. Yeah, I had to buy the house because I can't afford anything within the city, and so we're going to be kind of like in this shadier area and he wants her like. At night like we used to have a security guard to our parveen. We don't have that many more like. Have, our gaze like we have to be a lot more on alert because this is not a good area. What this is all I could afford because I'm still paying off the debt to get divorced, so maybe that's why an ens me that makes them like of course are not going to have a document saying that you're until you have paid off those data so to me. That means I don't know I. Don't I don't think he's full of Shit. Bullshit either I WANNA. I Wanna I completely believe in him and like, and it seems like he is totally like into her and vice versa like they gave up a literally gave up everything to be together. And so I love that and I just I. Love Them. I love that. I love into Giannis like. Just hilarious, and so if he. Just like genuinely love each other and I think that's. To them so much, actually just being like good fucking people. Trying and like you know, we know from past seasons like break or He wasn't completely honest to begin with, and he was hiding a lot of things from her, but everything that he was hiding from her I felt like was it was like cultural while it was a cloth role, but it was also just the fact that it was like he was trying to be like he I want to be with you spray. Unwilling to do whatever it takes to do that, including lines my family right then. Ended up like. My. It ended up being like you know it backfired on him. was going to happen what we heard from grievious episode with. All, these. Crushers, like as far as being with parents as far as being in marriage, and now he's like saying like fuck it. I just WanNa, be happy, and I'm GonNa do what I wanted to do. What I WANNA and who I want to be his johnny. Faulk everything else like I'm dying. It was Kinda cool that like his friends and stuff were being really supportive. Yeah, and so I felt like it's. It's way better situation than it used to be. I'm really rooting for. ANY REASON JANINE SUMMIT! You ever see a highly doubt it, but if We love you so much Who Do you want to next? Letterman narrowing. we don't. Really See. At all at all. It off on my God the scene with our mind now. Oh my God! He comes back out to his parents because he he's already came out once, but remember he thought he felt like he was shoved back in the closet, and so he sits down with dinner with his parents and tells them late. I'm gay. And I hope you can accept me. Brewery I am, and it is so emotional and and. His parents are crying and. He said like he's not something. That me. He's like. I think I may have confused you because I got married to a woman firs right but that's not who I am, and I didn't mean to confuse you, but I did it so our small village wouldn't talk about me, and they won't talk about ill lack I tried to do it, too. Like I partook patio you basically, and it's just so heart, wrenching and beautiful, and at the end of it his mother gets up and gives them a hug, and like you. Always you will always be my son, and I love you no matter what and his dad holds it. Way Number. You had to his mom, he said My. It's the worst feeling just thinking my. Guys don't love me. And she says. How could you possibly think I don't love you on your mother like that was just like so from Yahoo like hot. Obviously his family loves him so much and obviously he wants to do. What's right for them, but he needs like Novon with his life and and live his truth. So amazing that he actually doing that and that his family was super supportive I was aired. After. You know the first time. I told them it was. Like, it wasn't good and the other thing too, is that he even mentions like the real reason. Why is moving for hours away is yes, he doesn't want anybody to talk crap about his me humbling about. Roy Spots on? Like it reminds me like situation where like? You're in a small town. America and everyone knows each other's business right and that's basically what he was saying. The same thing like like everybody. You know the trump era, so we want to go. To a slightly bigger town, where we can really live off fantastically who we are and be who we are Embi out in the open, and that is just beautiful so understandable and non way his dad when he holds his hand in Lake I you like your might fun and. Hails data's trying and I looked like. With nine, but then he's. Moving with. Our Way and bring. His daughter with me and then. He was like I. Hope I can come back and visit allowed, but I'm only gonNA come back if you guy. If I can come with Canada like because if you don't accept him then you don't fully accepted me and I totally get that and his mom was like. Yes, I speak for myself stopped. You and the dad was like I need time to process assets. which like? Acceptable because I mean look at alter versus our now totally get it, and then like our Monaco. Lake Mexican Does Not my? Saying like Mexican, culture is more like much to culture. They're not so accepting, and whatever, and so like I get I get his down. like maybe needing some time to like kind of like process that he is the Michael. Full blown relationships. So, I'm so excited to see where the story goes was like out of like any couple I. Think I'm most excited about them. 'cause I just loved them so much I know I feel like Lemon and Armand. Kennedy are like the House that I'm like. Yeah, for sure you're. GonNa stay together. I. I doubt we're going to have any problems from. They got like their issues out of the way really quickly. Where in past seasons it's like halfway through like. This secret. Right all right like a media Uh telling. Hermanos younger and eighty Mondo telling parents basically just waiting for the next shoe to drop. It's like. A secret really well. Like. Use Gabby. Something else I'm sure. Especially since light, you know A. Hero and in the Buber Nice! Be All it. Looks like it's like kind of. Like saying goodbye to his brand, fun and his and his kids. Looks like Su base. Over Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so. I don't know I. Love The I'm rooting for them like it. I'm like I. was. All right. Gene CERNAN DOT plan. Okay same thing I. always say I, loved G. Okay so one of the things. I WANNA. Be Stupid. He's not stupid. He's just lazy. Be I think like one of my favorite parts of this episode was like they show a picture hundred yards. And picture of him, and he's like licking a lollipop or something like that the picture. Johnson the. Looking at. Her You're like it was I mean like. Yobe. Like gene out free. Standing in the street in South, Korea and he has to be like she. Events with his hair and like love. Sit back and I'm like. Okay pop like he has to be. than she. Like Brits. K Pop. Down like, Shaggy. Super q boyish of night I totally get the he all way you adorable. He's charming. Exactly, he's he. He is the as so Dennis is heading over to Korea to be with them again for the second time I then she goes there and. Leaves because he is making I stay at his. House which is like she's not ready to do that. And she also has for her daughter in her son with him, I think also like the main problem without with like they were saying like a one bedroom apartment and JI hoon was like had no ambition to go out and get a job or anything or like even have to be like. Okay I'm GonNa, Take Care of our family and I think that was her big issue is like okay I have two kids. This is not my home country. I don't speak Korean and you need to take care of us like if you want us to be a family unit altogether late. You need to do something from what I have not living with your parents Rona. Right. That's what she's. Like coming over there Steve Are you snowed job? He's like time work. And it's like okay, so he's talking to his friends and they're like Oh. What's going on? Show, tomorrow. Them is going to be here with my mother-in-law. She got a house for one month, and I told her that I was making considerably more than I. Actually Am, and that I have a house line. Well, let's not running like I like before she even leaves to go to Korea. They're talking. Rely time or whatever and she's like okay, so wiser dot and he's like Taio I'll. Just. Tile and then she's like so how much you're making his life. Three thousand a month and she's like you don't know exactly how much you're making and then. All Hell Yeah full, your second All your kids don't. Bosa And he's like well. I have a job delivering. And then she's like okay. How much do you make a month and he's like? Six thousand dollars one. It's like dude. You should know your income you should know is to be budgeting. She ends up saying that it's like. Oh, Kfi work, mornings, afternoons and overnights. I should be able to afford this place. So one for our. You can't take any day I'm like okay so basically, this is i. I can't wait to see that shit show. I really liked them as like a I'm not. Governed by herself incredible. Couple I think that there are like there is trump all right and are married. Ordinary. But it's like you just know that they are going to be the de Shit show and what's wrong. When he is like telling us, they're like this amazing looking for in barbecue playing like I want to go. Like that. All is amazing. Things on this item like I need to go there, I'm. I want that Kimchi right now. As he could break sparking. And he us. Like. Galaxies coming here inch. She actually was on that run to the apartment for the month on his friends goes. His friend does. She's the main thing I'm like rain late June. WAKE UP, see! What are you doing I'm in front of you. How Is? Taking care of her kids. You're doing the right thing like wake up. Get with it, but. His friends in the side interview when they're like. I've known Jeevan for fifteen to twenty years and I can't imagine him having two jobs like they were. They were like he makes. He makes Korean. Men Look Bad. You were embarrassed. Like Yaeko. And I was just like. When your friends are like not backing up and they're even like the ACA. Like? Shit like that. They're straight up like just straight Dunkin on Dave. Straight up like the GONNA do. Is Not GonNa do anything. Per second time around like. Bring Humphries. Not GonNa end up staying together although. I think that they will either way. We know that they're going to be. The the opener is her imprio- While the Kobe? A In. Yeah and so it's like it's like seven months prior, and it's Davin wearing face masks, and she's filming out into like a south. Rain Street and streets are empty and she's like Kobe. Hey, hero hard, and so we know she at least they. Are I have in mind? Obviously. Kill really there. Right? COLLABORATE WITH A. Kid You can travel. You can't do shit right now, lighting up. So. We know she's still there. According to TLC so I don't know but look up some stuff and our winter alert so clear when his friends were just willing, Dude. He won't have to jobs like. Are you? Kidding me and when he gets you know like you've had interactions with friends before you're like. Okay. Job You had. Come check on. Dude. I've been here. They're so funny. He basically just says like straight up like yeah I keep thinking about it and I just think I'm young. The maury talk you guys more stress idea, and like literally your baby mamas on a plane on the way it is out for adder having dinner with your boys and you're now just stressing about. You're. thinking. Like oh stress. Like. Are you like I. Don't even on Earth, and and like I have no idea. Did his parents like baby and to my play don't know. Only Child? I think. You'll like. Maybe that's exactly what happens. They were just basically like we'll take care of you forever Gee I don't know. I, just. I don't know maybe M., Otaly stereotyping air, but like I always feel like on like South Korean parents are like. You get a job and you make money and you. You do Janine to do like they push you. You know what I mean like. They're not coddling you. As far as I know about the South Korean culture I could be. happening. Right what happened with. With. His friends rely where in Paris like to even be friends with them because they know like this is not the cultural norm, right? This is not what this is. Not what most appropriate manner doing. This is this is this is beyond so i? Don't know if you are from south. Free a lot us now if this is normal house if you are. And conductors, we love to talk about it and now like why. Is this not. Doing. Then, he worked tile. Okay so yes. Oh wait, no. Let's do area and Bieber's. Really. Is Simple, Clark basically nothing. Nothing, basically she think about your parents and her dad's dad and mom gives her skill and. She starts crying in the car and is like. I'M GONNA. Miss my family different. It's different because I'm not going to have my family does. But it's not like having. That's loses me off about her. Is like dude. Duck like you knew that like? This is the choice that you're making like I. Do not feel sorry for you like I think my issue with them with. We actually haven't really seem baby at all yet woolsey next year. We're GONNA. See next next episode, but my big issue is that her mom is based grams of nurse. For over thirty years and she's going to Ethiopia half her baby right and her mom is something with her and she's like. Did you bring the EPA derryl? And it's like. You can't just do APP. Durrell's on people not. Certified you had? Your literally putting something someone's spine. I just think that your nurse mine rails. Let me, bring my own what I love her mom. She had like a bottle. Like he was. and. She was like athlete give birth. That's what some hot soapy wiring, please. To. Prevent infection and I was just like. Is that would be Jana who? Either have kids. So I'm like I don't know if. Like as a thing. I don't know. But the other thing about that that was interesting. was that when she was saying goodbye to our parents we, we found out that phoebe has a baby. WHO's two years old? Where did that come? I know that was dropped Outta. She, he or maybe we don't have his male or female, but they. BB. BB had a child with an American woman and. Has No contact child anymore like the child and dollars in America and BBC has no lake ranch, laureates or anything anymore, so Her family was like super schedule goal about that his life while he already has a child and my. The. Were you at all, but her family seems super support juicy, Lake. Lake really awesome. Yeah, now that is really awesome. While I'm not judging a book by its cover. They're saying like Oh, God will one over routes daughter, no matter what. To me red. Flags were if I was listening. It'd be like. Right now. Like now like if I was signs leg, move out of the country. I think that my family would be supportive, but I also think that they would be conserved why I'm going. In how you know. Like I don't know like. Knowing from what we heard in previous episodes about what the medical. Field like the the state of hospitals and things like that are in. Ethiopia would worry me where it's like. They don't always have access a blood. And what if you do bleed out? And what if you saw? Like brats like? Super concerning all things could happen. You, don't know what's GonNa happen like any of that happened like I. Wish for the best, but like right. Everyone's burping story is completely different. Coming from family, like obviously, you're aware license. lactation consultants nurses. Midwives. and. These are all things that we you know I've heard about. Happening here in America. Ever child in my life, but I've got a lot of nieces. And I will tell you right now that right they all have different ways that they came into the world, and then also we had some. Racket imagine going through some of my family. Members have gone through in a different country especially right in the. Development her. MOM's only GonNa be there, so her mom traveling with her to eat the European. Her Mom's going to be there for to. What if she doesn't how baby within two weeks? And, then you're all alone in a foreign country. With your significant other, you've only spent x amount of days with and like the medical system is not that great like I. Don't know I just. We're not experts, but we on an expert, but I would not be about it. I would not like that just scares me I just. I, don't know I feel like when you're pregnant. You're all about like even that baby like alive. Neyla. Not, even just about like. A mother, giving birth baby to. Asian can happen during the roofing process. Yeah! I would be scared shitless Sirnak have. Me and. Your mom! Support you like she's giving. Support. And if she doesn't have that baby within two weeks from home to like you're just GonNa be you MVP and it's like I don't know. Maybe some women are okay with that. I always go hard on her family to be like she's going to be giving birth like arm I. You know your you and then you can't even be there to even like. Greet this A. Wild meat. You like not only answer mom a nurse for thirty five years. What her? The cardiologists like, so it's like it's like you already right system that you should probably just have the baby here and then why there? It's just wild to me that they are like each kinda. Talk Out of this more. I think that they're just kind of going like. She's going to do whatever she wants to do. Nothing that they can do to stop it on. You know what? I mean. As an adult, she can make your own decisions. and. I would be telling her like flat out like here's the research like I feel like putting like graphs and our phase and he talked like death rate. Like! You know what her name I something's. You need to know it happens, and you were just standing her articles every day. I'd be very concerned as not on how. You know you're. Not Being now, if my sister was to be on another country and be like giving birth, I would be. freaking out sides your time right I would be like texting her husband constantly with going on where you know what I mean it just it's to me, but. I like having access. And not having access to blood, and not having access to monarchy. Shouldn't they need? That's terrifying, but is terrifying. Terrifying like I know leads not even always accessible here when people need it, but like I've never heard of like an epidurals. Shortage I mean I could be completely wrong, but like I never hear of light, it could just be like whether or not they even have like the the people around are are. Actually doing all the time. I mean we're. ANYTHING LAST SEASON With. A name. They were in South Africa. Oh, Ronald Ronald and Tiffany yes. You know. She had the same issue. She was pregnant going over there. Oh yeah, but. Into that hospital and look at it. She actually went in and actually took the. Time to look at. It was like. Listen not going to work for me and I'm I think that? This girl doesn't have as much time to be like no and then. What's like? She's halfway there. I have very for several. They saying that she's six months. Three months and then you can assume I. mean you know it's not like this the next day and then the next day? This is over the months so I mean if. I can only assume how pregnant she has. We know that she's at least six months, and then she could be even further along during the filming of this one episode. If that's the case, then she's going there and she's not going to be able to fly. You cannot lie after a certain amount of time. Right so if she goes there, she might be there. And that is something that I. Remember in that. I don't think that you and I thought about that in the beginning. Come back like she thought like I just. It's a lot dude just. LIKE GIVING UP A. And I know this sounds like super late or America Patriot, but like giving of American. How of right but lake? That's what I know and so that's what I'm comfortable hasn't even awesome, and or isn't even. Even. Ours is not even in the parade and we have high like W. increasing. So. I don't know the whole thing just really for now, but I hope. Amana racing those files absolately. Okay, so last couple. Yeah, that inbreeding! That's me I. Think actually I think that might be the actual shish show of. Of the tribal century at least for this season I think that they are going to be kind of shit show so. We know from the last episode that Britney was getting ready to go over. And she in talking about how she still married an invest episode. Heaney is talking to. Talking to his father about how he wants to bring or that he's bringing her auber and his father, saying like Oh as long as she has the divorce papers. We have to see the decree as saying that they're divorced well, not only that. The first thing is. Is She gonNA converts. And gals on, says yes. I'm going to I'M GONNA. We're GONNA. Do it slowly, and he was like okay. That's what's most important not. She's not GonNa hit Islam, is she gonNA wear the Hijab. Yes, she is which I think. She does agree to do allowable by, and then the last one is. Does she have the divorced Acura and And, it's like why Li- Li- well, she's already. Like no intention, if no original. So I. Don't know if that's something that she has not expressed a hem. By? She's expressed. TLC producers that she has no intention of converting to and then She doesn't really. Talk much about the hijab, but as far as I can be seen clips of her in the future where she is wearing his. Yeah, so which you know, obviously, there are some things that you have to do right in order to you know. Avoid. Everybody, but that's just wearing if she does not right. Now and the other thing is that we know that she is still currently Mary, she doesn't. Thing is that is hurt her dad. His Dad says in the episode. As soon as she gets here, you need to get married. Yeah, and he's like. Yeah, we're doing that. And she has said expressed that she is not interested in getting your quickly, but apparently he has to, and so I don't know if he's just like playing the. And like trying to get parents office back or like he genuinely believes that like they will buy like I'm like dude. Your line straight up to your parents like you have no idea what the bullets touchdown on the fucking Shit. That happened as soon as she gets there. At Love Mass I love it I love so much so trashy and we love it so she? She touches down. She starts to go to car with him. They're all excited to see each other. He has our. He says that they've seen each other. A total of like forty something days before this, so they've got a little bit of time a little more time than some of the other couples. So! She is going to the car the crew. The camera crew meets them and she gives them hugs way because an they have to stop it. Mike her does she wasn't might after the plane right? Axel my her up and they give her hugs. The curves are hugs and kisses all happening. He's seasons around bag that she has a bottle of thrown. Tequila! and. He worries how need. Out He is so upset He says that she's album drinking there that it's okay that they can't be hugging had all. He's like. Have you alistair. Britney the Britney. Brittany, and then he goes up near the camera. Guys just like right. Right here why? Mean they have. because you know I'm stupid and like read a minute. You just pay back backpedalled so hard, dude! You're like look you, but then you're like Oh. Actually I, met Buck me. I'm. Dain like drinking bottle. What she was like bringing in. Is allowed in any. Females but I, don't know. I'm not I'm not saying that. The things he had a major like he's in. His or Superman's urban I was so whatever it was. She KRIEGERFORD him. Big Time did not like it and just leave her out there and goes like backs on a car, and she's just like standing there with like Oliver. Suitcases and everything and I'm like. So like if this, if if that happens to me, I, would be like by like I'm calling down soon as they get in. The car starts putting his hands in are facing now you know. It's like if somebody did that to me, they WANNA. Have Rockingham your hand. You WanNa. Have a hand like no, and she even says I'm an American. I have my own culture brawl. You knew what you were against you coming. Back we already knew that. What's so wild smear like you? At the same time, even say vice versa. He knew her culture. He saw her on instagram. He saw her on and. I feel like if you're going to be other ones. country. There are rules that you have to abide by, and you know going to Jordan that it's probably not okay for you to be hugging men, and it's probably not okay for you to have Laker, and it's probably not right, and he told her he says that he told her ahead of time. That were the rules, so if she wasn't okay with that, she should decide that ahead of time, but like maybe thing and I like. Callahan like when she misleading hand lake. Did she tell 'em Lake? Okay I'm going to give them up all the soft. Do all these things that you'd want to him? To be this way, I'm going to be that. We are how much. Her right not behind. You don't know me. Buying you'RE GONNA. Be Fine I don out 'cause I spent forty days together, so it's like I just don't understand laid. There had massively before a one absolutely I mean. He even says that she met his parents before right and that she promised them that when she came and saw them the next time she would have the divorce decree. Right and we know that's a lie, so I'm really curious to see what happens for the rest of the season I really feel like. In my heart of hearts that it's not going to be okay, Matheus, they are the mass yesterday. I think that it's going to the nastiest of breakup as well. If they do get married. It's GonNa. Be Short lived just like most of our other. Wake. Up and. It about in. That's not gonNA. Work, the thing is is that she is a rapper and she dresses. However, she wants to dress. Not I'm going to say like scantily clad every because personally i. don't get fuck how you. Like how? Do? You. How do you rocket? But you know that those things would not fly over in Jordan. You know that. Nakaha bad, but anyway, if little, we're going to wrap it up. On Okay so next week we're obviously doing thirty day were still going to keep on talking about some of the other shows that we've been watching. 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S5E3b - Cyber Seduction [Part 2] (Featuring: Nate Fisher)

Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?

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S5E3b - Cyber Seduction [Part 2] (Featuring: Nate Fisher)

"You're listening to season five of mother. May i sleep with podcast. I'm your host. Molina mm-hmm lunch statement forgot to write it down. Oh no. I just thought i'd give it a shot free. Oh no raiding freshman ashman book reports now the time. I just needed some advice about something so i've got a sec <hes> what's up. I don't really remember the details and in its in its none of my business. Kay turn didn't break up what time of something to do with like in foreign oh. My god is stephen. No it's it's just ask him. My marriage was destroyed because of his addiction to internet porn. You gotta go. I'm sure this is like some silly teenage stuff no die. We've gotta talk more about this and and you've got to monitor his computer. Thanks so that's interesting to know that this man. What do you think he was doing. He was doing cyberporn to absolutely <hes>. I was talking about this with my therapist. My therapists was like yeah. I've had i've had <hes> so many like <hes> people come in or heard so many cases about people that just like you know they have somebody that they're with and they love for them and for whatever reason they just like the staying zaidi of having to be with someone and like maybe not live up to the occasion in or just like you are hyper focused on you know the porn sensation that you just have so little desire to <hes> to do anything with a real person and you completely like redirect all your sexual energy into something that's not even really sexual which is just consuming porn all the time yeah yeah i i had a boyfriend that definitely like that was a huge issue on our relationship and i wound up like developing a lot of resentment that moment not just towards him but specifically as ipad hated his ipad because i was like this is what gets your attention and i don't. I am your girlfriend. I've been over backwards like you just can't if someone is like. It's hard not to take it personal. I will tell you out the window window. It's so difficult to take it not personally but at the same time and also to not project what you think could be going on right of course you know especially especially. I'm someone that you know if i'm in a relationship i don't i'm not owed any information but if i know my boyfriend will not stop watching porn. I'm i'm gonna start to ask questions like hey. We'll kind of porn. You watch like i just want to know. Maybe it's like. Maybe we can incorporate it may be can be we can watch together but then it was like never i was never getting an answer right and i was like what is it is a p._o._v. facial assault. What are we fucking talking. How bad is shit right. Never really any answers. I was like oh okay so it's like obviously teen girls where everyone starts. That's the crack right but i was lake. Is he watching child porn. Is this like how dark is this. Is it like mommy son role play. Like how dark is this stuff. We're getting too because they feel like sure. There's a lot of shame involve corn but if you're not so ashamed to have your girlfriend your mastering that you don't put your ipod away like that's not a problem i'm for you. Just say what you're jerking off do unless it's really bad right yeah interrelationship. No people get weird hangups about that there is i know a lot of like because a lot of my friends wouldn't most of my friends. Not most of my friends would be very open with each other. We do porn you watch and like some of them you just completely. You couldn't get it out of them. You'd have to like put him under oath but that thing that you say about anxiety about like that making actual sacks so much more difficult because you have like an anxiety around it that sounds very familiar language. You put your finger out. Dot is actually much more probably what was going on than i realized but i started to really. It's been out about it because i was left without. I was in therapy but might therapists can't tell me my boyfriend's point of view on why we're not having sex in his relationship with porn. My therapist got me well. He's like his his believe. Is it like you pretty much. Everybody should be watching porn but he said that to me. Just don't watch porn anymore so this is why you're here <hes>. I really wanted you to do this movie as a sex. I wanted a young guy that can speak something. I didn't wanna bring you into like one of our sort of more or it heavy-handed topics for women. I really wanted a young guy who's dealt with corn. Why does your therapist tell you not to watch porn. What's his theory on not ought watching it at all. How does he expect a person to avoid that. Do you think your therapist is a real person. Yeah absolutely basically basically my therapist is very anti porn generals because it's like he's seen the way where it's like people just like completely completely channel every like sexual feeling they have into the into porn and then at a certain point. It's just stops being sexually becomes like just kinda issue scratch habitually really you. Don't get any joy out of it and you may not even really be addicted to it but it's just like a kind of like thing you do that replaces the actual sensation me personally i i. I was just like you know. I got a lot of anxiety and like and part of that manifested in just like having zero executive whatsoever like i'm just just yeah for the last month plus and my therapist was like well. Well you know it is pronounced now but you know right <hes> and then there was leagest they will start their stop watching porn because it's like that's definitely been like i know a lot of my friends and myself. Were were like you know as teenagers every day right right dot <unk> everyday everyday. I'm sure but like also multiple times a day even oh we got like everyone's i mean that's just basic like when you get into a relationship when you're seeing someone versus not laid. You just can't jerk off three times. A data porn dial back late anyone's personal habits like you're never like guys never gonna be like going to match lake aac like some like a vibrator or something a man's never gonna match that and i think that people lean off of stuff like guys off porn people lean opposite sex toys people off of certain conversations or relationships or whatever because they <unk> they inhibit was a natural like romantic relationship that you would want wannabe end right absolutely so i don't think that's like were you having like a problem in general with porn or just like if you're if you don't feel like having sex just like stop watching porn every day and you want to have it again yeah yeah it was that i definitely like. I also got the feeling like i probably watched too much porn in in my life but it's hard not to feel that way. I feel like most guys are like that but i definitely was like that. Maybe a little less porn little more friday night lights. That's right. I need to watch watch spiritual television vice speaker numbers. You said it was it would be very healing. That's the word you use healing. I gotta watch healing television. It's it's very it's very well written and the acting is fantastic in the character arcs or fantastic but it's also just really feel good and i'm not i wasn't in a place where i really really wanted to watch something where i cried every episode when i started it but it became that good cry i really it's really fun to watch it with a person and i'm i'm crying ryan every porn episode. I watched so i could actually go there. I'm kim. Have you ever cried a corn. No no no yes. I've i've. I've been very very glum watching porn. Have you cried during sex okay. That's a good question yeah it is. That's the good follow up because if you were having that got 'cause that is actually i do hear people often like i've heard of it. Many times people cry during or after socks men and women definitely well porn. There's no tears in that honey. 'cause there's no feeling there's no. There's no enjoyment either no happiness. It's just there's no happiness in it. I mean it's it's like like you just like h like like kind of just habitually scratching age like i was just like i just couldn't like our need it like if i was like extra tired and a anxious and just couldn't fall asleep. I'll just like you know wash porn you jerk off and try to fall asleep. That gets me to bed kind of i would love to. I know what it's like to find that useful entertaining. I just doesn't like it's not it doesn't do my life isn't missing anything because of foreign absolutely and now that i'm not not doing that anymore not missing anything either. I don't like those guys. Scroll like fucking boo brett's and stuff like that yeah like that really does something for someone. It's like the same way that i don't laugh at a joke without we'll have someone else doubled over. You're that's how i feel about guys. That must be scrolling boobs all day like i just don't. I don't get the job. I don't get it either. I mean to me. It's either like that's either either like a clear sign of insanity or assign the there's truly nothing wrong with your brain like you just like. I don't have any hangups about anything. You're not like no sexual frustration asian no pathologies nothing. You're just totally. She's level headed nothing wrong at all or your bonkers one of the two. I can't figure out which well here's this other question. I have okay so like i find that there's always becomes an important topic or appoint that people lease to make in very elementary conversations about sexuality in general the differences between men and women and the first thing that men are always ready to tell you is like we think about sex all the time yeah and i don't understand whenever i hear that i become so uncomfortable gerbil because i'm like oh i have been moving through this world like not thinking that someone was looking at me sexually like that or not observing me like this or like rating me in their head about whether or not they would sleep with me. I was moving through my life without that conversation in my mind and now i'm like well. Not only my not included in that conversation. I'm just left to guess what everyone else is thinking. It's very paranoid like it made me a little bit paranoid. I think every time i think about it and watching that hallway scene where he was like catching glimpses of ankles and getting the boehner like that really like made me so uncomfortable. We're just all out here like fully for anyone's is at anytime whatever they want to do with that in their brain yeah i struggled with that that sends asian a lot especially before i like before lost my virginity to like before it was just like a monkey on your back as a as a young dude like oh fuck. I'm slugged a freak or whatever. When did you your virginity housing nineteen. It was f._c._c. yeah yeah. That's nice yeah. Eh feel like if if it had happened earlier would become more well adjusted earlier earlier. I feel that way about not having drank in high school <hes> same. I didn't drink in high school. I was a total like goody goody until i got to be just like it's funny because the only thing that i can think of similar to porn breaks griffin from the group. We used to do this thing where we'd be like all right. I'm not smoking weed for like three days <music> because then i'll get like so fucking high and i think that that's exactly we would take breaks just so we could get more high of on the other side of the break you you know we've been smoking too much man. We gotta take a few days off but yeah so were you in a relationship like was it sarah <unk> like was it a ceremonial mona's moments complete just random happenstance just one and done no yeah oh really yeah. Did you ever speak again yeah was was it okay one more time after that yeah got it <hes> while shoutouts you if you're listening. You know who you are special eighty. <hes> <hes> diana's come home with some serious parental control c._d.-rom boxes. Oh yeah this is one of my favorite moments newlove. A box walks with a c._d.-rom and she loves them. She she's fully deep into the addiction of <hes> denying her kids porn. I'm kidding. She's like a kid who's he's on his way to go loses virginity with a box of twenty condo <hes> so she gets on the computer but you know she realizes sure enough. She doesn't know how to install this. Oh shit so she calls alex over and alex is a good boy. Sits down helps his mom install this software and he says to her mom. You know weaken <hes> get past. Ask this. We can figure out a way to do this so while diane alex arnstein this opera received a justin has walked himself downtown. It looks a little bit. He looks like honestly where i used to live like a melrose in gramercy sort of lake situation dairy main hollywood would really c._d. Type area. He's walking back with. I think he's going to get himself a journey magazine or he's going to gloria a lot of neon lights very like very taxi driver turns out. He's just an internet cafe. It's a loan laptop in the back of a room which is really sad. That's that laptop that you always you see people on mineral lake emailing their families back home over sure yeah so sad. I hate that early on the phone cards. The phone cards would really like always break. My heart definitely thank. Can you imagine that you have to buy a card to save to buy a card to talk to your family. It's a lot of those things just just truly just like take the life out of you like just like the idea of like you know your basic things like you gotta take the bus everywhere because he did that for a year absolutely absolutely just like just like things like that make everyday life just so much so much harder. Yeah thank god we have computers of that's right and wow how back at home alex's telling we did set this thing up but we can. You know break through this thing anytime. This is not a big deal not that we would do that but we could do that and mom's like well when we put the computer in the family room. That'll probably help things so he's like oh. We're really screwed now right and then he goes well. What's going to happen when you're gone and she goes. I'm gonna take the plug and i dare we go day and that's like throwing it down for alex the way he needs to hear it is. I'm taking the fuck and plug and the chocolate ice cream. I just think he needs some strong words. I think that alex is actually the bigger problem in the family. If i'm being real with you oh absolutely it's never it's never liked the. I like canary in the coal mine. It's always the person who like socks minutes. The oldest sibling net like shits the bed. I yeah yeah you know especially in a small family 'cause like they learn the he has spent his life trying to not be his brother yeah or or he's going to be as brother like either way. There's like a not. Someone's getting sold out when it happens to you organically. You've just like you fall off the bike and when you get back on at versus if you have to watch it happen you get that more profound effect on you and then just like left in the rubble of destroyed family to fend for yourself so so he's talking to monica at the internet cafe from stroke man guy. He's totally reply guy and i. I do think that this was like a missed swim. Fan like me could have gotten a swamp in reference in this definitely some point. Did you like some fan. What swim fin oh my god swim. Fan is a great great nineties horror early two thousands horror movies during erica christianson where she's obsessed with this boy on the same team. It's a great light campy sort of horror yeah no. I thought i don't know what you're talking about but i've never heard of it swinging and it was her screen name so anyway he gets a call from amy me and he's apologizing for taking the night off before they were supposed to hang out after the me but he's gotta go <hes>. She says that a bunch of over at the diner and if he wants to come by you know totally they come and she doesn't get it like basically she's just like. I don't really understand what's going on you. Keep flaking on me. I like you wanna come. We'll what's going on any any tells you. You know what now's not a good time. I'll be in touch so more of the same from him. I think he's really fucking with this girl and i want amy to be like over this shit. I found hop l'envoi a i church that's right she. She could find a door of joins the army and then comes back and they have like a jillian kids live in missouri and then just have an amazing life yeah <hes> <hes> but like she certainly deserves better than this asshole flaking on her <hes> for sure so he goes back to the chat room. He starts speed things up. You tells you know i wanna meet you right away. That's what he says to monica so that night the whole family is there for dinner for once but everyone is quiet as they eat virgin. Vagina shame has taken over the whole family which makes sense. I don't know how i i'm surprised they didn't eaten rooms for the rest of this movie everytime families around the dinner table and like how could you yeah and <hes> and like how do they mean like they are all such strong personalities. How do they even talk to each other. They don't they sit in silence which is probably the worst way to eat a meal so with like also sex shame dangling above the whole thing so she's like you know we should do tonight. We should rent a movie. We never get to do that anymore. <hes> justin says he can't ask to go do do homework with amy and they need to be in person because it's equations and steve says okay but you have to be home by nine but of course this little asshole is not going to amy's house. He's going to this. I guess the diner where he meets monica. He only really needs monica. Here in this set is so confusing to me because it looks like a really lee c._d. Dive bar for some reason they give. They serve high-schoolers soda. There i think yeah i think they're just a maybe they're trying like make. It seem even seedier. It's just like kids run around in here in the easy yeah again more taxi driver vibes totally so when he gets a monica season when she gestures that she wants a drink <hes> she looks beautiful by the way in this scene just your hair and makeup. She's very much giving me brittany murphy in the you know she's a total botticelli. Be obscene were shares taking air photo like just like her. Ringlets are really pretty and she's really globally and we don't monica. We normally don't ever see her in this late eight so we kind of do like that. They gave her this moment of looking angelic and she actually looks really classy and put together. <hes> although i do hate her top he is so excited while he's ordering these sodas. He's dropping pennies everywhere. I don't know how he thinks. He's going to pull this off back home. Mom gets a phone call from amy who she he's thrilled to hear from. She's like hey. It's amy and she's like oh. Hi amy and amy's like wait. Where's justin and she's like oh. Wait justin supposed to be with. You and i'm like well yeah. Why were you happy to hear from alien in the first place. Usually if your son's with someone they call you it means. They're dead true right point. Why are you happy like diane. Get on top of things so we cut back to justin making his big move by bring the sodas over to monica other sort of having like a little else flirty moments. I do want to describe her top as like one of those cotton tops with a scoop neck where it's joined at the shoulders shoulders and then it has like the loose open slit all the way down to the wrist and then it's like closed with a tie i don't ever know who's trying to show off their forearm arm and upper shoulders but typically those are not great areas on a woman and these shorts were kind of pop at the time you could see someone like britney spears wearing taymor after dark but unfortunately this trend has continued on. It's it's it stayed with us all the way until it's probably about to come back next year very very disco disco. It's also you would see it on like a mormon. Oh yeah you know <hes> shadow to mormons by the way <hes> my girl cristiano. Oh helps my ebay. She's a former mormon and she found me through this podcast. What's up arianna as well. My two favorite mormons so anyway he basically basically like can't really sit there and have that conversation with her. He kind of talks with her for a minute and then he and then he leaves. I really spent a lot of time talking about this shirt shirt in my notes. Let's go to forty seven thirty to forty nine fifty three glad we're finally getting together. Sir richard do not been thinking about. Have you been thinking the about me. Oh yeah in. Here's your credit fishy. I'm okay. I guess yeah doing allstate. He'd walk around with a billboard. You like to come watch assumes are yes sure well actually this is the knees we're using saturday. There's a lot of kids who come still too young. I bet you can credibly off. One of those timings pretty cool. Softening boy looking at the scene girl pre kumar. How please in you mike lace. My parents aren't home. I get going actually shoot. I'm stupid history paper mm-hmm it okay so i love this right here because we're gonna do a classic lifetime. <hes> stan shod about five seconds too long wasting. They're doing that to buy time like they. Literally have to fill seconds out of minutes. I don't know about your high school but i've never really understood the dynamic between lake certainly when your this young like an older girl hooking up with a younger guy like it just first first of all it was never like cool in highschool like yeah. No it'd be like a senior dating. Stop more boy like no way yeah do <hes> but there's something kind of like so predatory about this to me in this moment because she's so sexually experienced and you know she and his his kid never really as far as we've seen had much more than a sentence or two of interaction oh yes she is a complete. A caricature of of of whoever is involved in the creation of this is like complete sexual panic right. She's like the archetype of a character for whom like you just project every bad thought about what what lascivious people are doing. Their sex lives on to her and she'll do all of those things as a character. It's it's like it's like how they write the kind of just like a you know paranoid parents fantasy of what could happen into this movie and like i i think that there is a world in which like this could happen monica's very empowered and she's still even we'll see the way that this movie ends up. It's not that she's not empowered. She does but her but i think that she ultimately is someone who just likes. Shamelessly really enjoys choice tax. She really enjoys the attention she doesn't. I don't know if it's an issue of lake. She doesn't have good self esteem or something <hes> and that's why she's letting thing the whole school <unk> mice base her masturbating or whatever but <hes> i yeah i can't tell with monica if she's empowered powered or if like we never really got a thing. We never really got a thing like her. Parents are never around and so she seeks attention or her dad. You know she had a fucked up dad add or you know she was unpopular and then she started sleeping people like i just don't understand monica's drive yeah she even like has a they have a exchange when when she goes goes to her house and she's like oh you think i'm some slut from a broken home well to be honest in a lifetime world. Yes typically yeah no because it's always the rich girls who are slutty and lifetime movies. Lifetime is like we're not going to be unlikable. <unk> broke girl be like a slut play crazy. No it has to be the rich because no one's going to feel bad for a rich girl yeah which is just such a fucked up way of thinking people can't have two problems blooms only have one problem funny that both of those things are problems ver- no of course yeah people rarely have more than one like one thing that they do in these movies so when we get home speaking of things to do diane's not pissed. She's not you know sitting in the living room ready to rail on him for lying lying about amy's house no she's an art room listening to an audio book on her walkman and cleaning or paint brushes and i love that because she's doing on a little self care little meantime a little self entertaining and i needed that from her character because i think diane is a strong woman just wanted to see her like off doing your own thing in there. She was was but ready to put that paintbrush down and shoved up her son's ass at the same time. You know what i mean so he comes in and she's just like oh. I was studying. She's like no. You weren't any called you weren't there needs like oh yeah. I was going to go there but i realized like i need books to libraries like well. I love like let me see the bucks so he goes to pull them out and i think lake. I don't know did she did he. Just call her bluff enough because she goes like oh. Don't worry about it but you know no matter what like you're grounded. Basically <hes> so diane has there's another thing he did. He said that he <hes> he wanted to call her but his cellphone did enough service at the library where i was like nice play to get an upgraded device where he says this is right after he came from the library right after not the library he was meeting with monica. Oh scams confused. I love the library seen i'm excited for no no that's great and monica's in that scene as well but row this was like he did come up with a quick one. I was impressed by that and that even went for the book i wouldn't have had the guts would've been like oh. I didn't take it out. I was just copying notes down you couldn't i would've told more lies but he notices. The computer has gone in his room. Mom says she moved into the family room. Masturbating has turned into a slovenly mess at this point. He's not getting up for school on time time. He looks dazed at all times. It's really like taken his life completely off the rails so gets to school and he sees we knew apologize for the way that he's been acting lately in the agree to hang out that night. He's not gonna fleet this time. Monica rolls up him in the hallway and amy sees her coming down which she shields back to watch the interaction but she can't hear anything that they're saying <hes> leader justice in the locker room when timmy had some up with a hot king shame now this is where i wrote this watching the beginning of this scene were underage. Guys are all shirtless in ripped in wet from the shower in a senior room a half ass lifetime. What message are you sending about porn again. Honey uh-huh underage boys were ogling that in dad's ass. I have to ask lifetime. Why are you trying to teach me a lesson. When you have some notes you can take your saps. Lugano in this movie is is just too damn oranje pushing it on me. I'm not trying to be attracted to a seventeen year old boy in a locker room. That's right fifty three twelve two fifty five fourteen letter boy so six slick as king of porn key the clown yeah well you know watch for some facts jackson up a bit your real freak though into the real twisted come on guy. I'm just fooling around. The whole thing's a joke. You're the joke leather boy freak. I'm still getting perverted. Spam on account of you. I keep the work dash cam. He's mad about some papa. That's that's real shit. That happened yeah so my question pops was this when i first got online in the pop-up upstarting they were porn. My mom didn't know that they were pop ups and i didn't know how to like like it was like one time i got an amber alert and i had a crazy abbas <unk> who put their cell phone on the government's doing it. It's me like do you know what i mean. Your parents always know that they were just pop up. Surreal are you encountering pop ups and just like there's no monitoring no no they they they knew pop ups but the first time i ever looked up porn because i heard about this was like i was probably like eight or nine and do anything with it but i just wanted to i wanted someone told me about the idea of porn at school and and i went to w._w._w. Dot tickets dot com okay. Hey <hes> because that's where my mind went and i entered it and it was a porn site and the second. I went to that porn site. I got no fewer than one hundred and fifty yeah. It's particularly typically just so many and i freaked out. I was like oh no because no one was home at the time and i just like closing closing closing minutes went by minutes. They're gonna come home any second and that was my formative. Experience was seeing pornography in the remember it too hard restart of slowly and i didn't. I didn't look at porn again for you. You know three years. At least i lay you went to ted dot com. That's probably how i like. I could tell if i was your mom that you were going to be a writer as most kids just go to sex dot com boobs dot com you go tip detail. Yeah i like yeah. It's that's an attitude. What did you think you're gonna see. I thought i was gonna see porno. Oh just like straight boobs or like people having sacks. I thought i was just gonna see boobs associate the naked ladies boobs bring me through the initial conversation someone someone comes up to you and says hey when you go online. You can see pictures of boobs. Yeah you can see pictures. Girls tits smells like okay. I'm gonna find him. Do you remember this classmate who told you actually don't even remember the interaction at all okay. I don't remember lakes got a little seed planted. I don't remember what spurred me to look. I don't remember really exactly exactly like when it was but i just remember be i think i was eight and i know that's what i entered and i remember having to close. All the pop buffs frantically yeah. I yeah like that's that's. The other thing too is like you're so young. Insulin's eight feel a guy here. The parents i know get really concerned about their younger kids. Look is finding pornography but i'm just like your first of all like kids are kids just right like the few swears or whatever they know in hong internet all the time but kids know about sex kids talk. Other people like this is like your kids are just going to encounter it. It doesn't mean that they're fully possessed sexual human beings. You don't have to worry that your eight year olds having sex but they're curious about it and they're looking at it online. That's not a like. It's a bad thing but it's not a bad thing like you can't be surprised by that very odd when parents parents are like diane's will mood about why she so confused with us. I needed to know when we were going to find out about her back history with her father. Yeah oh inside story off that i remember the first time i looked at porn was by accident because i went online and i typed in to go to a website website i typed in w._w._w. Dot and usually have an auto fill and then i would just hit enter and it was the website i was trying to go to but i typed really fast and you just type w._w. And then enter and i guess in the internet of nineteen ninety nine two thousand if you typed in w._w. Take you to a porn site. I didn't know oh that or no at porn was and i went and i clicked on this. Wasn't it was like why is the why is the top banner image of this website a dude peeing in a girl's mouth because i didn't know what a blow job was okay. It wasn't it was just it was like a blowjob raise like he's he. He what the fuck and you only child to show. You were left on your own just yeah. Did your parents like have a conversation with you about porn orange. You ever get busted. <hes> my mom found search history when i was in high school how humiliating i know i was so embarrassed embarrassed embarrassed i was like i can't believe i like went a week without deleting my search history. I'm a fucking idiot. I never deleted my searches drifts so naive uh-huh yeah i mean i didn't for the first like <hes> like you know year plus watching porn but like once i figured out how to do it i would do it like daily. So so what's the confrontation walk me through shoes like i saw some of your search history and she said i just want you to know that you know you think they look like they're enjoying it but none of them are and i was like okay probably especially at that time she was more likely than not like sex. Workers have gotten in on screen performers have gotten a lot more invested in their enjoyment years and that narrative is taken over right but i would say outside of a few of the avian top performers of most people were important especially during that time probably were not so excited it to be doing as it is with any <hes> as it is with any of the creative fields <hes> you working on the lower end of it. It is true. Hell yea yeah well when you're a star when you're a porn star which is interesting. You're the star but you're still lowest person the laying emission no sense it. It doesn't make any sense. You're the star of the film but yet your degree like porn is so yeah. There's a lot of people are probably having much more intelligent dialogue about this. We're we're probably biting off a lot more weed chew but all i did a little bit of my research talking to my friend about this beforehand and started feeling coming out. I mean this is also. The thing too is only experience. These movies were not experts at all were movie watchers just like the rest of his trying to pull from our own personal experiences to understand what could possibly possess these characters to act the way they are and it's so confusing to me porn general that i feel like the the rational responses. Don't don't even just don't engage with it. Go completely away from it. Just ignore it entirely too confusing. What was like your peak like. How much porn was your word like how much warmer looking yeah age like fifteen <hes> twice a day and what was your. What were you looking and for. What was like your search it. I would go. I would just go to like you know the the front page of the porn sites and in just like if it was something that i had never seen before i would never watch the same thing twice and it would always be like a very important thing to be never watched same thing twice so i was just always into washing all these random different categories. That's so interesting is never watching the same thing twice because i would feel like you know i would want to return to a familiar yeah. I feel like that's a lot of people do it but i i was just like i guess i was already like like a burn out phase where i was just like. I have constant new sensation nation. That is one hundred percent one. I'm taking from that just like damn boy. You're far gone. Your therapist was right and i ask you your therapist leg a they diane do multiple peers of yours. See him no. It's like a rogue off. It took me forever to find a therapist because there's not eighty near my office that took my like. You know. Shitty healthcare plan that i'm on yeah. No it's so hard to find a therapist story yeah. They say you don't like you. Don't have have friends that also see this man because that can get a little complicated. Oh yeah when you know like your therapist telling all the same people. Stop jerking off. Yeah and you know your peers are rian told it stop jerking off think about that. None of my peers are being told the subject. It's not go to a therapist and sees a ton of your friends yeah. I didn't even know that was the thing that happens. You lay the wilda ring well because in i mean think about it like you go to like. The goal obviously is to go to your most well adjusted friend and say hey seems like things are going well for you. You've done a lot of self work. Who do you talk to and then they give you a number while turns out the being level headed person is very rare so a lot of people go to the same person next thing you know half the girls you know at u._c._d. We are in the sand therapist office terrifying to me the aspects and also the idea of like how many just sometimes been in therapy with older like old therapists have had and then i know see other people i know and i'm like talking about fringe characters in my life and i'm just like. I wonder if they see her too. Oh oh boy and i wonder if people have come in here and bashed me and she's had to bite her tongue or lake you know because they have to sit there and get totally blank slate boy doctor patient confidentiality as really gotta suck. They gotta be like oh man. There's so much i can put together and not a lot of people are great at it. I i pretty much. Every therapist i've ever had is broken that and the other people shed interests first name last name yeah. I even felt bad just mentioning what my therapist said to me you know in in bribe. No that's your that's your story. You can walk that out. You're not confident you don't have to keep confidentiality then geology with them like ham on a podcast till this kid nate fisher to stop jerking off. If you wanna see me on wilshire like they can't can't do that sure right you know yeah. Also i of questions about your therapists okay. I mean like none that you can answer right right. I just i'm like who's this man thinks. It's just that easy for all these people to put down the barn. Well maybe struggles himself possible. You know you'd you. You'd think that right you know. It's always like you know the cops. Case city can't solve as his own type of deal short short shore yeah <hes> so oh just your name. You're studying at her place and i don't know if she's that religious lake. They're allowed to be in her bedroom alone together with the door. Basically shut that would of never happens and we weren't my mom wasn't practicing but i was not allowed to be in a room with my boyfriend when i was growing up at all so she's like. Are we going to hang out out this weekend. <hes> maybe you know. I thought you'd be like with timmy in them. But are we going to hang out news like yeah. Of course we are. She's not really close friends with timmy but like you know. Some of the guys in the group are kind of weird. She's like well what about monica and then like the air just like it all just like hangs there. You know i've been that girlfriend. Drop in a thing that i know like this. The reaction i get here will be the answer to all my questions <hes> and you know he <hes> pause a little too long and says monica and she says you know i saw you talking her. He says yes so she said hi. That doesn't mean i can kiss sir that means you. Have you seen her website. No i heard rumors about it those than they had this big conversation that so uncomfortable where she just basically as we try to get him to admit that he's been looking at monaco's blog like every other boy in school and he's denying tonight and eyeing and then he's like no bay mal about you. Oh and he's like i love you. He drops elbaum which i didn't know they were saying each other nee start making out crazy on her bed starts taking her pants off and she's like no or no. I don't wanna do this yet. I'm not here for this and he's like oh fine. He gets all frustrated in like it's awkward moment where he's like you know if you just wanna keep fucking around doing this and she starts stand up irs which i'm proud of her. She's like you know if i'm just some fuck buddy to you them. Whatever he gets so pissed he leaves. He bangs into her mom always well. He's leaving the room and then the mom just like looks at her daughter. Who's sobbing on her bed with her cardigan like half off her shoulder. She's crying being the mongo's. Are you okay honey and she goes yeah mom. I'm fine and the mom goes okay yeah. You know she's too busy with her prayers. They what does she think she's crying about. The lord late this teenage boy. You just left your room. Your daughter's sort of in a state of undress. She's gotta go back back to the bible. Yeah you can tell by the way that the comforter was that they were laying there and it's boy i. It's i love. I love the way the kit the he just breaks down in that scene that is truly like he's a junkie getting his fix. Nobody's done it yet because it's not even like but it's not a sex fix either. It's like it's not a sex addiction because he's not yet an had sex. It's just like a complete outburst of <hes> of dissociation right. He's not even dissociation exactly what it is 'cause like if you were first of all this is not that he cannot fuck any the in her bed while her parents are like running around the house. He's not taking her view that way i also we know that in that situation. You probably would have gotten too far with it. Boy had no protection on <hes>. There's that what was that really about. Dissociation one hundred represent it was the it was the proof that he's completely incapable of processing <hes> sexuality in a normal way and this is. There's no oh like i. It's it's it's not even hornets anymore. It's just some other creature. You know what i mean and while i think that in these movies he's like a little unrealistic for a girl to be like you know what if you're gonna treat me like that the no i'm not just your fuck buddy. I think that that's nothing that normal are real-life girl would ever do the aarhus v yes then. You'll be like i'm sorry. I don't want to upset that you feel bad and she's not there at all actually really <unk> normally. I really cringe when that happens but in this case i really liked for some reason it hit me hit me the right way. John and the boys are at garden center picking up some plans. The next day diane's acceded to maybe get some herbs going in the the kitchen. She wants to start cooking with herbs. The boys lake mom. You're trying too hard. Okay this like family togetherness stuff. It's just not happening. Cheese like whatever happens a lake helping in your mom out you little shits like go. Get me some mulch or whatever she gets a phone call and justin's talking to alex and he's like dude. Don't resists resists like just lean into this. Were buying plants with mom. <hes> diane gets off the phone and she says that that was thomas his mother now who's thomas thomas. This is alex's friend. The little brother's friend who he brought a glass of milk and showed some pornography and thomas was <hes> apparently showing doing some other boys at school pornographic photos that he had on his laptop and alex's like wow that's crazy. She goes yeah. They came from your computers. They're fucking in boston. This is a multi tiered operation. Corruption is crazy. I'm surprised it's only leaked out to other people at this point so so <hes> she's doing that like sort of in between the teeth yelling that moms are really great at and <hes> justin listener he goes. Why are you looking at me and she goes because your the one who brought this pornography into our home fifty nine zero three two one minute in nineteen seconds just for great mothers that moment i need to look at me. Look at me feet. They're at home depot. Dr phil will i don't alex. We'll give me a couple bags of plant growth. Well no that one through this with her husband. Tom gimme a lot of insight into this kind of addiction lives. That's nice small business like some some sneak a peek innocent kind of guy stuff. This is different and you know it's husband. Okay mom i mean i don't have a problem with pornography swam telling you the truth okay. I don't have a problem shouting internet access do their homework assignments in class notes off the web and what about emails use the the library computers at school. You and i are gonna have a talk in the car going diane waiting waiting for her to know as is the the modus operandi this movie i was waiting for her to go over in the garden section <hes> <hes> to garden hoe and go. You have a problem with these hoes online. Just shake them <hes>. I like that should have done pawnshop on genuinely. Put me in touch with this guy yeah we'll do. We'll do some variations on this movie <hes> yeah i wanna ask you about the best thing because her friend. Beth isn't just her friend beth. She's also a teacher at this kid's school yeah and he calls her bath so she's obviously a family friend. The last thing i would do is send my teenager out into the world armed with the information that a teacher at his school is divorced because her husband was a porn addicts addict. This is gets at there's so many wrinkles to the adult relationships here that really makes makes me think that the people involved in making this argest projecting fit what happens to fifty five year old people onto john's is sixteen year olds and this is kind of like i'm jumping ahead a little bit here but the fact that he then goes after this to to the library to look at porn. That is the most fifty five year old man thing that you can possibly you how many times that you see like a fuck an old ask do looking at stats who does it and elaborate this. This is the story of a guy who got a lot of shit with his wife for watching too much damn pornography but instead of making it about him. He made it about kids kids yeah. There's the whole movie fall fits into that when he sends those emails and says beautiful honey subject line like that's that's that's old guy shit. This is an old man <hes> living out his his deep shame through these kids and that's why they all act so weird and let's think about this too is that beth is lake in her late. Forties or fifties like how long has been looking at internet porn. Her life just took dr nosedive out of nowhere again. They were living a happy normal life. All of a sudden you get the dial up sound husbands out the window gone on abandoned beth in real life that inspired this movie had this just happened to her the day before and then the guy sat down. I was like what got it right at the script yeah well. We don't know who wrote it. A man or a woman yang chuck dying. It was a two guys wesley and a <hes> richard also at another co writer who was also wesley okay okay. One of them's got to get a cranking addiction and i'm telling you so diane shut the house down for the night and she gets into bed with steve. I wrote my notes here where the fuck is stephen. I feel like we haven't seen him for weeks yeah you. She asked him if he's ever fantasized about other women and he tells her that he's one of the lucky guys married his fantasy and she says that every year she gets older during less sexy and she sure that that's not as fantasy anymore and he says that you know she feels all of his fantasies. Not just the actual ones. I actually thought it was kind humanized complex it was but this is why this is why my theory that this is actually about the middle aged man who created it <hes>. This is why that's even more true is because this is the one of the seven characters that steve is because there is no steve character. Steve character is actually the yeah and so you just kind of fill in the gaps with the dad characters like he's actually a cool guy. That's not addicted to porn is actually really chilling as a really nice ass in a hot wife <hes> and you go yeah. He's got a thick asks us and his only problem is that he doesn't tell his wife how wonderful she is enough. That's right and then he does and everything's great and also he's overworking are working <hes> he works hard. He's working hard not smart. You know what i mean yeah so we're going to eat house now. There are only seen we have just amy being her own person and she's on the phone with a friend. She's like oh yeah. She's gonna get her a homework assignment or something and she says that she has to go to repeal and find the email <hes> that our friend sent went from. It doesn't even really know how to use this thing yet. Okay deigning dang. That's why she hasn't discovered. This treasure trove that she is about to discover in her sent box full of bondage picks and god aww knows what else <hes> she's had it. She confronts him at the pool but is filthy lifestyle in front of every single person. There weren't play this quickly agree to one zero. Two zero eight to one hundred thirty five got something on my p._d._a. Mm-hmm plead happened to you what's going on. He get the hell away from me enough to speak here teaming screw. All you guys said peterson back here so my question at the end of the scene is what points at what point rather is it inappropriate for a teacher not yell at a kid like that because that seems aggressive to me. The growl on is a like when we when i was a kid teachers could just go off on you but i i do wonder what the noise level is acceptable now also. Are there some states where you're still allowed to hit a kid if you're their teacher think that there are it definitely is private schools like where it's kinda just a no-man's-land and if the parents are cool with them getting disciplined like that they get just one like that. Oh yeah you don't across lebanon or whatever i mean. I don't think they're taking a ruler people but at a public school like can a teacher and certain states like slap your kid <hes> and you know what no. I don't think that i don't think they can't anymore because <hes> <hes> there's there's even among the you know the people who are not stereotypically like you know helicopter parents. I feel like helicopter. Parenting is now like universal. It's like incredibly pervasive like everybody's. He's like like if you're a parent and you are like oh. I don't want to like vaccinate my kids. That's another just like another version of being that one like overly really protective parent so like even if you're from a culture where stereotypically like you'd be more inclined to hit a kid like i still think that's is probably out of the window. Honestly the main reason why people probably completely refrain from doing it is lawsuits. Oh my god yeah because even if the parent doesn't care that you had their kid. They're going to sue you absolutely for sure. If they're that money motivated parents gotta be out there soon the school system you guys. Oh my gosh you see one person. The parents are sending their kids to schools. Get yourself hit out right now. We will take them to the cleaners so justin's on the library that night and he's drinking drinking a you who really confidently next to the computer which was annot now that would never have been allowed at boston college high school any library oh especially in high school however you're not taking food or drink over that computer so he waits there while the librarian is busy and he pulls out a u._s._b. Stick that has all the good stuff upon it and he starts flipping between all the porn then he's going back and forth to his paper to see how his reaction time is in case. Someone should walk by the this point i of course at this point. I noticed that <hes> if this is the same paper he's been writing this whole movie. He has written three. You were sentences than he started with. This boy is four and a half sentences deep into his paper and i think this is a big paper <hes> he's he's watching monica's videos and she's sitting there right across from him which <hes> i felt violated by. It's very it's it's extremely horny. Oranje filmmaking and i do love that we see monica as a as a student. She's just there to study sure yeah yeah yeah dimensions the shared glances across the library that is very the you can you can touch it. You know what i mean. It's very the tensions right there but i mean i'm more noticed how much they weren't paying attention to each other on how monaco is just involved in her studies and he was staring at her like licking his chops sure yeah like almost monica's not allowed to get off the clock and study right. You know this is a live out dairy. Besmirch the good name of the library so oh <hes> diane's co worker. Who was the one telling her house here. The internet is these days answers the phone for her. I don't know why this step this out like that. But i kind of liked it. <hes> she answers the phone and then diane takes it from her and whatever she's hearing. We obviously know just fucked up again. She's very flustered. Her coworkers like hair hair. You okay but she's so angry. She can't even speak. She's got her jacket. She's out the door so justin sitting outside of the principal's office ooh god i hate. These scenes always always i. I never really got in trouble ever just watching. These make need fell. Ill ill thinking about like how terrible that would have been to live through that in high school aw definitely it's just authorities scares me. When we went back for that shovel every union i swear to god. I thought the police were going to arrest us for being a party when they he came in. I went back to basic instincts man. I was like i would like to get on the roof. Like where can we go into the principal's office all the time. When i was like in elementary school dead what <hes> it was. My mother likes to say it's because i was too smart <hes> because i was just like yeah <hes> just wouldn't stop talking ever and would always just like finish my work really fast and then just like bother the cloud of noxious because i would do because i had already done all the shit that those supposed to take a long time and then just like just sat around and had no impulse control speech each oiseaux just constantly being the principal's office. Oh from a very early age just like didn't faze me at all just to be there. I was like yeah. I'll end up here. Hello good to see you again ma'am kanter late. I know wow <hes> all right. Let's play this one zero four fifty two one oh seven zero three. This is where we're going gonna drop some serious news. It's going to everywhere justin hacked through library firewall of course his name's he won't be allowed to use the school computers until further notice moore's spending no but he's on probation for the rest of the school year and he has detention for the next four four saturday mornings. That's more than fair. I have a copy of justice progress reports when school tells his grades were slipping. We sent a copy of the report home and we e mailed it. Mr mrs peterson have <hes> have i view ever caught justin visiting porn sites. No i mean some pictures yes. I caught him looking at porn sites at home while justin was visiting porn sites on the library's computer look he's. He's not the only student with this type of problem since all. This new technology makes the internet so incredibly accessible pornography addiction has has become far more common. If you want some help i have a list of therapists you might want to contact. I think we can take care. Actually i really appreciate that list. Let's go yeah practice. Please don't spend it from team. You can tell us what you were looking at online mother stuff lymphocytes pictures what geez how's it gonna pornography's resume what you guys want to here yeah thing it. No east straight up pushed his dad. They're turning physically violent against each other and it's it's. It's true rock bottom. Yeah the the the addiction is to spiraling out of control. His parents are like definitely treating him like any teen. Addict movie would be done on lifetime now. It's the generic addiction treatment it is. It is the addiction template of behavior but i liked that because we at this time we never saw that with porn for teens like this was pretty taboo and it was made and i think it's important that they spell it out that simply like instead instead of porn like billon blank crack like anything else. This could be anything like i don't know i thought it spelled it out nicely and was a little bit ahead of its time so he sulking while his parents make would seems to be an incredibly complicated solid. They're just listening vegetables back and forth to each other consent and says that he can stop. He can stop doing this than his dad says that it won't be that easy is mom's <unk>. He's gonna have to get professional help in order to quit this once and for all and that there are consequences for his behavior is grounded for the rest of the semester. I love that they hadn't had this conversation up until now oh yeah because that would have been the first thing that would have happened. There would be no dinner getting made if i didn't know my punishment well you know you gotta you. Gotta fit the run time right. He got to <hes> you to really tease out this the stakes you know it's true. I just also unlike what did he like. Tell me this boy knew he was grounded like tell me he didn't think that he was going to have to just like write a paper and stay home a couple of weeks. He's not writing any papers. I know which is like. Did you ever write a letter to your mom. Oh that was always part of when it was it was not it wasn't a punishment as much as it was lake in order for me to prove that i learned my lesson. My mom wanted like a comprehensive essay with what i did wrong. Friendly like why. I was sorry what i would do to prevent those steps in the future like one hundred percent held accountable in full writing. I think i might have done that once or twice as a hail mary to get out of jail yeah but it wasn't an assigned but it was never an assignment yeah. I don't know i kind of liked it. I mean it definitely helps my in writing in some ways to excite to really fucking get a point across. It was my ass on the line. You know staying home for another week but we never called it grounding. It was probation in my house. Not it's a good one yeah. I feel like a hardened outlaw yeah for sure so we we lease awake that night. In bad knees looking pretty dazed he goes into a dream but the dream is basically like a roth <unk> fantasy. Yes in abroad all yes. He sneaks out of bed and takes as a credit card from diane's purse to on this is this i'm like justin. Shut down the relapse. You wake someone up at this point right. They should have had like an alarm on him or something. We signs himself up. Foreign internet connection reconnects the family to the internet which is a whole startup v._m. Shore and then he joins some paid porn website. That's crazy that he was able to re. Get back on the internet. You didn't have to have comcast guy show up between like nine a._m. And four pl literally just like like a wheel and it goes. You're now connected to the internet. Feel free to browse. I was like <hes> the com- gas guy shows up. He's just like standing there naked. Come on come on. Come on come michael fat dude so again at this point up until this part of the movie. There's no alluding to the fact that he masturbated any of this stuff yellow. We do get in this upcoming montage as you said a glimpse of annot phase so there's some acknowledgement that there's something happening. He's not just in love with the pictures right so at school the next day the weather is gray and justin looks like a fucking shell of a person he walks away okay from school pretty far actually looks like to me what he walked through like three separate suburbs and he wound up in with sort of wound up sorta looking like a hancock doc park type place really nice big homes and he goes up to the door of one of them number fifteen and he presses the intercom and he asks for for someone who's home and it's miss monica. Miss monaco won eleven twenty four to one fifteen thirteen and i do want to i tell you guys but before we played collegiate. It is about to get fucking crazy. What we're going into space yeah. This is okay. Let's go <music>. Hello justin swimmer <music>. Hi come on animal bite. She's dressed very conservatively for monica. So do you want something to drink or on fire. Thanks wow this is nice. Don't sound so surprised stomach at the wrong impression. What do you mean that you think i'm achieve slept from the laura family that at all i'm just teasing. Let's go upstairs. Real fast doesn't even off from water. That's so in a spirit of. I did think that we find out her parents. Were mormon or or something <hes> when you got to the house real missed opportunity you could have padded this movie out of the four minutes show in the parents. I would have loved love. Oh wait wait no. They're gonna fucking her parents room. I think and the pictures on the wall or other very elderly parents or is that a grandparent that'd be granted stuck in your in europe now. This is exactly where i wanna be. I can tell you wanted to be with me. The first time we met really yeah but then you left me so quickly the other night no no it wasn't you it just well. I had this paper do. What about now. Do you have to be anywhere else <music> so much you want me uh-huh the lots and not like little sweet. What's her name amy but that's her name amy. Whatever maybe that was the moment that killed it brand saying amy no no you didn't have a bone or the whole time because my heart in my theory these yeah we can go slows you want. Hey i'm sorry this is how it should be out. Can you feel like it anymore. Are you kidding. Are you turning me down. No no it's not that it's just you're kidding me. You get well. I definitely got there was going. It'd be a moment where i poem and i was like she's going to rape him and then i was happy to see that her narcissism took over just chased him out of the fucking house. That's all right but she's too. She's too clever for that. Your bones yeah my boner theory right. It's like if if you are lea- she's too clever to oh okay so not rape pam okay. She's not like she's not going to like. Put she's the fem fatal right the fem patel taking that yet turn turn down by this we know but she's not gonna but she's also not going to like four self on them because that's like you know. That's not how you effectively play the long game the the way she does. My boner theory is that like because this guy is a porn addict and this is like like this. Is that very real phenomenon where it's like you don't you don't enjoy sex or you don't feel as connected to sex in the in the appropriate way where it's like to the point where it gets in the way of your actual sexual enjoyment like when he's when he's trying to have sex with with <music> amy's girlfriend and then later this time like both of them are like completely like haywire like not appropriately modulated like sexual experiences france's so he's just like his brain just doesn't work in that way anymore and that is a sort of like overplayed but macro version of what porn does to a lot aww people's brains. I think that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Actually wow thank you for that. Yeah absolutely well. Monica annika is about to do something honey. I don't think any of us expected no she goes into the bathroom and she has a look at the monica in the mirror and she decides decides to fuck ambassador had the countertop in draw a comically large stream of blood chocolate sauce one hundred percent john chocolate sauce and i typically hate it when people say it's not fucking chocolate sauce. You and i both are seeing that's not chocolates us. This was chocolate sauce. That was well yeah so what's going to happen with that well. I'm sure that has something to do with why getting the ship out of him at the end right diane get some later and there's a message from the bank about her credit card account. She's on the phone with them and then steve comes home. He's been called home as well. The pop ups come on over and over and over again on the computer. It's endless justin comes in and sees what they're doing so when he grabs the plug and pulls it out of the wall. Am i wrong or is is that is that hen tie on the on the screen when the when the pop ups come up went right in in this moment when he runs into the room. Let's see i think it we just passed did go back about ten or so seconds we can. Maybe see whether ten tire not put my glasses on. Oh yeah no no now. They do look very animated. Do they do things right here. Where's that sweet anime banchorn there. It was right. We got it all in the mix. Damn what's that about hen tie. I mean i know what it is. But what is it about vowed. I don't know what that can re. I don't get it yeah. It's it's extremely well you kind of have to like anime aac to be into it and it's also like a hand is also extremely because i don't like anime yeah yeah exactly. I don't watch right yeah. I think i think people just go to open their mind to animate. It's just like cartoon naked late yeah but it's also so like everything's like super exaggerated and it's always like squids coming out of his tentacles stuff a lot of the times like you'll see like the the women inches like have comical proportion a lot of times a lot of stuff like you really couldn't get away with in like in like porn using live action people like like it's all like you know rape stuff and like you know flirting with the boundaries of like underage girls and stuff like that it's it's sounds like exactly porn but with all the pluses of animation it's it's it's porn played eight up to like a hundred outta ten like say if a thirty something year old man's jerking off to that though i don't need to ever know about that that's an insight. It's so messed up inside thought very good so let's find out what stephen diane have to say about all this one sixteen thirty nine to one seventeen nineteen twenty five trusted you and you lied again. I know it was only a couple of times. I swear it's been more than a couple of times. I just got a call from the credit card company because of some unusual activity my account. You've been buying pornography with my a credit card. I'm going to pay you back every penny just in your dictated. You can't stop. I'm not addicted hotline. Just stop lights the big daddy number six again. That's a real what have we become. I've ever seen one. That's a eh rebel without a cause. They're not like a grandparent or an aunt or an uncle. They can send him to for a weekend. You get a higher neither actor. You know it's not on and budget. I just mean like can there even be like a threat of that. Because of course we'll be go to another family dinner where these people are still trying to sit around a fucking table together her and of course welcomes up at the end dinner. They don't pursue a lot of solutions. No knows no solutions his poor disappointing these kids in a way that i cannot even explain they are so at the end of dinner knowing he's grounded. This little shit says to his parents. Can i go over to amy's house and nearly your ground dead head music but i want to apologize fair. I like that. I like an apology so diane's like okay but i'm going to drive you so she pulls live to the house. We see amy's little shadow is in the doorway so she is in there and they have a conversation about how he's going to therapy is going to get on the right track. Things are going to change and she's really proud of him in this moment and she says okay go in there. Talk to me need when you're done. Call me and i'll pick you up now. I don't wanna say that diane has to be a prison guard for this kid but we already know she has audiobooks right here on your fucking audiobook the book and sit in the car in your deviant child's to finish apologizing to the christian girl whose life you ruined put the audiobook on. Maybe you're learning spanish. The cars drive away from this criminal and leave him this person who has lied to you at every turn. He's a felon. He committed credit card dr fraud fucking. He's a felon. This would be a felon identity theft. Yes he's a huge this. This kid the problem all right so she leaves him there. She's gonna get. She's going to get what she's gonna get. He goes in says starting to any amy's being very nice and christian about it. She clearly wants nothing to do with him moving forward but he does tell her he's gonna go get some help. He's going to figure it out when he comes back. Maybe they can just be friends meeting. Go to church some time and she's like okay that sounds nice and she gives him a kiss and goes inside. We'll just in of course. He doesn't fucking do what he's supposed to do. He heads out on foot from the house. <hes> and he starts. It's walking down the streets and one of the guys like in the crew. I'm not exactly sure which one spot somalis pumping gas. He gets in his car and drives up around the corner to the diner. Were monica in the rest of the kids are hanging out the one that looks like a c._d. Dive bar and they're like oh. We saw him or whatever you're right. He's on his way one twenty three fifty two to one twenty four forty five almost the end guys homestretch coming up the street. She's getting their four baby dome scott. She is such a such a adar. Yes she's accuser. Borderline most certainly not this is scary yeah yeah. I hate get like i'm a small fry. In terms of people media scares me to unwind shortly beating up curve visit sweating her touching and we should be clear. Timmy is in on this too. He is driving the car. Timmy was his supporter from day. One <hes> <hes> so this little motherfucker gets kicked out of the car onto a pile of broken up boxes in this alleyway and duly or whatever his name is monica's boyfriend that she cheats on him like whatever he gets out of the car and starts kicking up adding a little leg extra to it and timmy's don't don't fuck him up man. We gotta go so. I guess thanks for something to me yeah. I think that kid was gonna like really kick. His leanings kill them but no they gotta leave him. They gotta leave him to his own devices so he can. He can finally do the deed himself. That's right. He is to his face. He has to be the final nail in his own coffin often. I wrote based on the condition of his body after this. There's not any chance scholarship moving forward. Oh yeah his his free time is going to be well over a minute it so now we're back at the beginning. He's out the pool. We're seeing those spreadeagled arm. Jumping into the pool is fucking flying high ready to go floats in that water are and here's like a little glimmer in the water the catches his eye. He starts to look back and see his mom and amy all the fun times he's had in the pool. He he sees coach in his dad and his brother cheer in amman he looks back to like you know him and amy kissing and having sweet tender moments like everything that he's lost during all of this he snaps his out of the water and he's looking back into his past years like everything else is just say i think it's really funny that in the absolute worst moment of this guy's life like the like the just the nydia of his young life point where he will be traumatism forever. He thinks about his coach. I think that's funny to me like i my swim. Coach was not somebody i even. I'm struggling to remember his his last name <hes> like that. That's just such a strong influence that coach hat on his life. The coach was a big part of that but you know what i think that pool represents the womb. Oh yes at the end of this. I was like that's where he feels safe. That's where he goes back. Choose routes. That's what he associates his mother. This has been a constant his whole wave that pool is his mother's womb oshii feeling <hes> absolutely so then <hes> because we got to watch illegally as it is. The only copy online that i could find are actress. We were treated to a little post movie p._s._a. I'm i'm so kelly lynch comes up and she says teens today have a lot of access to information and technology and they have a lot of pressure to grow up quickly that that behavior can lead to unhealthy perspective on relationships and behavior that can endanger them in many ways so talk to your kids and know how they're spending their time on the internet and with at their friends for more information. Many resources on addiction visit lifetime tv dot com. It's our lifetime commitment i do. I have to say i love lifetime redirecting suicidal and addicted people you have a problem with the internet and i know because the t._v. told me and you should join the lifetime movie club or you can watch lifetime movies unlimited for only three ninety nine a month. <hes> it's just yeah it's what sidestep that would never happen anymore. So that was our movie. I fucking loved this movie. It did not give give me any good emotional feels that sometimes get with these movies but it's also why i think this like very seldom make movies about guys on lifetime. Even though i do consider kelly to be diane rather to be sort of the person who's pushing the stories as much as this is about her. The audience surrogate his secret life. She's the person like the secret is hurting right so we do a thing here on this show where we rank r movies movies and i want to know from you and don't over think this because i know you're sinophile. What do you consider to be. One of the best made movies of all time <hes> well. Let's go with since i referenced it so much. Let's go with blue velvet by david lynch okay perfect. Someone wear rating this movie when i asked you a category anything a one is blue velvet. Five is the most lifetime of lifetime in movies like a real good tori spelling one what the quintessential essence of what these movies are versus you know as opposed to a real movie okay so the acting in this movie. Did you think this was a one two three four or five. This was was if i'm being honest. This was a three and i say that i didn't think it was bad which is a bummer to me because it should have either. I've been really good or really odd. You know what i mean. No i think a lot of you'll see as we go through this. I'm going to give it a two point five because i thought it was pretty good and i think that you'll find a lot of times in these movies that something's gotta give and for me they usually go with strong actors and crazy stories believability of the world and characters. Did you buy that. This was a scene in a world real people on that. This could happen <hes>. Emily give this a <hes> <hes> to me. They lose. They lose something for the ending but the rest of it hits very close to home. Okay okay okay. I'll give that a to creative use of words to avoid censorship. So you know what the frick you know like jenny. Sometimes they use something words like uncomfortable and you could tell that they wanted to use a swear there but they didn't. I didn't really feel a lot of that. I didn't notice that much but they managed to get around. I wanna give it a to simply. I'm going to give it a three simply because they managed. No fuck that actually this is so wrong. This is a full full-blown five and the reason why is because we watched an entire movie about a teen with a masturbation in porn addiction and we never once saw porn were even knew that he was masturbating. Yeah they did a wonderful job of taking a topic that could have gone off the rails and making it as you know jesus except eh actually if since we're since i did use blue velvet as an example which is a movie with a particular view of human sexuality <hes> this is about as much as you could possibly do a g. rated blue velvet if you've ever seen blue velvet that's exactly what but this is. This is a g. rated david lynch film dialogue boy yes. It's about a four for me. It was that bad. I was <hes> i was struggling. There was some of it. We'll give it a four wardrobe. I thought it was. I thought it was perfect for lifetime because this is about typically the budget they did a good job executing it but there were obviously some eyesores. That came came up so many give it a three. Let go to you on that one herron makeup. I thought it was great in this movie. Monica was supposed to look trashy of she did look trashy but i'm gonna give it a two just because there was some favors that they really didn't do anyone in that department and the hair that was just the wrong decade for sure out of the guys. All the guys were just in different totally different decades with their music typically when we talk about music. Was it like a banging soundtrack track or was it like did it. Bother you like was the shitty music so bad that that caught your attention in annoyed you which number is is banging like really good in yeah one being a fucking one. They fooled me with the lincoln park and i loved the lincoln park. I found it very difficult to swallow follows certain scenes where we're supposed to be watching these parents have a conversation and there's this lake sand lake song jamming upstairs so loud. I found on that very distracting but i guess but it did set a tone yeah. Okay we should probably. I should probably amend it. I should i should make make my number higher because i like the lincoln park more than anybody else probably would so i'll go with what year going. Let's go we can go higher in that. We can go three or even higher for. I don't know you wanted to one because i just like. I just love the lincoln park. You want to do to all right. We'll do we'll do. We'll do it too crying for that. I usually like big crying jag like when i mean that i mean like a big sobbing seen comically comically bad i didn't. I thought everything was done pretty tastefully. In this movie. Although monaco was kind of iconic and for that i feel this movie should get a three just for that. That's o- oh on her alone for monica. Scene was everything victimization of the female character so in this lifetime is television for women so we've got some women to look out. We've got obviously obviously diane. We've got monica got. Amy also bet women are often in these movies. It's the side characters that are shaft at the most and it's like the most was painful and a lot of ways. I actually felt that all the women in this movie had it pretty rough like as i set it up in that first scene where you saw like the two girls that were weirded out by monaco conaco so into it and then amy just like afraid everyone in these movies. I feel like it's very strong female victimization because it's it's just women trying to figure figure out men in what men do very helpless feeling. Oh yeah i think it's i think it's a four definitely i mean no one got assaulted but you know that's typically typically the doctor salted as the five failure and or refusal to jump to the logical conclusion. Yeah i mean that's that's that is absolutely a five for sure not even a question yeah even just like them not knowing how to discipline their children yeah drops apps plotlines <hes> yeah i mean i would say that the <hes> the the debt the parents relationships all of that is a is a better movie just not happening on the sidelines. We also didn't get any resolution as to what happens with this character anyone what else in this movie with him just floating in a pool of thinking about his life. It's very artistic ending. I would say it's very <hes> it does not give the audience that catharsis tharcisse they so desperately want no. I mean it almost makes you wonder if he drowned himself in that pool after like that he had his last moments that everyone he loved in his life and everything you'd ever done. It is almost like purposes yeah r._a. Drop pauline's i mean i think i'm gonna get this strong for and then font. I think that this is a pretty lifetime. He fond. It's not the worst we've ever seen but it's i think three what's the worst like what are we talking like. What's the worst kind of lifetime font aunt on super released sci-fi stuff that doesn't line up other stuff like really like <hes> a script easy almost like a papyrus hiring that just like shines. We get a lot of irish peace for sure. I'm going to give it a three just because it's like a it's not offensive but it's definitely just a final the basic font which leaves us with the. I don't think this is like that high on the scale but it's a nice one. Sammy what's number thirty nine point five a solid start to think our first male lead movie of the season. This is fabulous nate fisher. All of his information isn't a description of this show so you're also stand up comedian. You run around town doing stand up all the time. I do run. Where can people find you if they wanna see your shows ria post post them all my twitter and instagram which is at nate media good <hes>. Keep your eyes peeled. I will be a post in them. <hes> and you know someday someday. I'm gonna come to your town or city across the u._s._a. Or even canada or somewhere else. I'm going to be a tour and comic. I'm going to do it for sure. Absolutely absolutely. I'm really happy because i've given up pornography. That's right you've been. You have a lot of free time new lease on life. It was holding me back but i'm really excited we got to do those any was a great movie and we're fabulous guests. I appreciate your stories. I think you have to ask you. Why are you wearing the maryland state flag on your sauce. I like a <hes> flags you do. Do you have any connection to maryland. I have no connection to the state of maryland is the only state whose flag i know because it's so fucking ugliest my favorite flag black. It is it's gorgeous. It's no it's not gorgeous. It's like fun and tacky. No it's cool. It's it's like it's all flags should aspire you want everybody. The truth is that it goes back. It went absolutely rusty. It goes there there. We go tie it. All back to the real winner of the internet degrassi the next generation russian by the way on wheelchair drake dot com. We'll sell it to you for five grand ari guys. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon. I'm malls. Sammy was awesome wags his great wagon okay all right. That was it aw <music> uh-huh.

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Comically Anxious

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"Hey Street people history people I'm brandy and I am Becca. Your street people we're the host. This is comically anxious. This show where we call out craigslist Weirdos over shared to the point are parents are disappointed and invade the privacy of the street people. We're here to make you laugh and cry. Provide you with the latest and greatest in Weirdo News and pitch about life and each other. Let's get weird two guys. Hey Street people. Hey guys welcome. How are you guys? It's another week in this crazy world that we're living in. Yeah that's how I feel. Too guys. Brandies stomach hurts right now. I don't know what's come inside of me. Ooh So let's see here when we got going on brandy so today we will be Disgusting Harry Ladies Thick Girls Delusions see if the stars will be bringing any good news to our garbage planet. Learn about a crazy. Florida man talked to a street person. Maybe may we'll see we're not really sure actually right now. It's just an it's been like quite a quite a week so we'll see and do some bitch and because that's what we're good for is bitch really all were good for an but first a quick recap of the week. So for me I was jogging trail behind my house as I always. I've been doing. I usually do very into it at really. All I've got going for me and There are a lot of bugs right now in Texas. Maybe not today because it's very cold but the last few times I've been jogging. It was really humid there tons of bugs and in fact nats thobe huge swarms yes warm book and hate them but was jogging on the trail. Which is really crowded full of people because they have nowhere else to be right now. So everyone's like Yala's go walk trail so I'm like jogging. I Inhale Anat so deeply like it definitely passed right through my gladys down my trachea and lodged itself into one of my lungs jogging and coughing and people that were walking towards me. Were just like giving me so much space because I was coughing so much and I was just like. Wow this is great. I'm not I don't have the Kovin but I don't really mind what you're doing right now. Those great it's just going to sleep. that's hilarious. Because you're just bitching about how people were in your way all the time. Yeah now all you have to do is caught if he just cough. They're like oh no and then I went to The Neighborhood Walmart by my house today. Which is just so the neighborhood. Walmart is different from the regular Walmart and that is just groceries. Those there today this morning and they had Grocery carts upside down with caution tape tied to each one. Creating a place for you like where you can line up. Because they're making you wind up to get in. Yeah they only let a certain amount of people and you have time. Yeah House like what? Is this ghetto wine. They did that at the Home Depot. Yesterday when I went to buy plants to make myself feel better What's what's your week been like So beca came over to my apartment the other day on Wednesday and we got. I got She was okay. I was fine. I think I drink most of the line. I think it was hardly drink and out of her. Come to you were and I got sh- wasted and I was outside. Petting the neighbors dogs. Because why wouldn't I be doing that? It's very natural thing for me to do and then apparently three times I was like I gotta go. Makuuchi stinks and I don't even remember the situation before any of it. She knocked on the neighbor's door to get beef jerky because apparently he had really great beef Jerky so she knocked on his door. He's offering her beef jerky has to chose so she sitting down on the floor. She calls me. She's knocking on her door. Like come out here sitting on the floor eating. Beef Jerky petting the neighbors dogs. And this other neighbor comes out. He's got a Husky and so he's hangs out. We're all eating. Beef Jerky were petting three different dogs. And then like after thirty minutes of conversation she tells us one neighbor. She's like my Kuchis. Stink and is very funny because it was directly after she was like. Aren't there some weird people here? And he's talking weird he was like. Yeah you're not as weird as this neighbor down the way. Whatever he's talking about a different weird neighbor and then she was like my cushy stinks. Now you know what's weird now. You're weird She said at three different times to complete stranger who just lives in her apartment complex. I could just I what from what I imagine my period has started and so my whole vagina smells bad and I can only imagine that in my in the fact that I was super wasted off three bottles of per sacko probably I probably had to and Becca probably had one. I'll are just it? It just didn't feel wrong to save. Something really feel like that was a problem. Wasn't the guy was laughing but I was. She didn't even remember having Senate the next step telling them man your coochie smell and honestly I'm full of regret about it and I'm probably going to give him A. I'm sorry card that I make because I'm not gonNA go out anymore. she's wild. Yeah I don't know I don't know listen. This week has been has been wild for everybody on the planet. So it's fine anything. This Lake Geneva Novella keeping acting the fool totally fine. That's completely will like fine because we get it. I don't really know why would tell my neighbor that though like in the grand scheme of things. I don't know why I heard I'm actually embarrassed to be living to live where I live right now so probably going on it was. I thought it was weird when it was happening. I was like she said it twice so clearly. She regrets nothing. No I'm full of regret. I'm sorry neighbor over here this because I know I told you. We have still castle like two different neighbors. The one neighbor that was giving out the beef jerky she godly towards the end of it she was like. Do you have more beef jerky or of your beef jerky. She just kept demanding. The man's food it was like Ham and this is why I don't drink as we're drinking as I'm drew says why I don't drink but I do every week and it's not even to say that it's like every time I drink. I'm embarrassing that's true because One time I asked my neighbour if they were my uber driver they were not and then another time. I told my neighbor you parked terribly now. That man if you don't if you don't park terribly going to say that about you so maybe you don't park terribly and if my coochie stinks. Everybody is apparently going to no. I will let you know. I'm not proud. Am I proud of myself now? But is it natural to have a period? Yes so what he wanted to do. I am not natural stink. I warned you did tearing my neighbors from bothering me. I won't be raped by neighbor. That's so funny. If you had a sign on your door that says caution my coochie stink. I should just do just to just to like really. Just make the whole thing blow. Yeah I think that'll definitely let's take the whole thing I would be funny about. I'm GonNa get you a sign. I don't have money because of what's happening right now but lie if you wait until I have like a lucrative career again. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll get you about buying Pretty much I'm an embarrassment Larry. I thought it was funny. I don't I actually like every time I think about it now. I just think God I can't even leave my apartment now. Well you have your here so why not right I? It's like a guarantee that I checked to see my neighbors were out. I looked people like I can't face these people again. Yeah he lives right across the home but I can't face them. She's just knocks on his door demands. Beef Jerky from that for me. It gave me floating shelves. I don't know he's given me peace ter- wear whenever with. I've seen him do weird things though so I don't feel bad about that one. It's the HUSKIES. Why feel bad? Yeah the normal guy. Yeah sure. What's next next up is thank. Yous Britney Salik my God. Thank you for listening. Are We with this? One goes out to Britney. This was Brittany's episode. Britney this is your episode. Britney's episode is the Best Britney. Ever know she's such a Britney yes she is an action. Sound like a bad thing. She's such a bit now and I was about to say. Every time I think of Brittany's I think of Brittany Murphy. And she is my favorite does soon. She was so amazing I loved her. I didn't know her yeah. I met her. She's great. She's really great but no like all her movies. I've always I always loved her movies. And now now she's dead now. She's dead man. This one on pouring this went out by pour. Pour out my on my carpet. Now I paid for that. That's three dollars worth of percents. Every penny counts right now. Nobody tours anything out. Sorry homeys you get nothing but Brittany. Thank you for listening. We hope you enjoy and Kelly Kelly girl are we pictures friends now. of Stephen King's house and a sign that says comically anxious was here. So that's awesome your best living. Kelly thank you Kelly. Thanks listening all right. What's next episode? Really Oh yeah yeah. Yeah Craig is that you all right go for it. First ONE IS. What is the segment about? Oh my God now this is segment and went to read you. Sweet nothing straight from craigslist Very sensual this right here about to get about. Hillary is GonNa be what you guys are. GonNa get so let right now. I'm already wet. It's raining outside. Harry Asian females older S. W. M. Bingo I mail. Oh grew up when shaving wasn't a thing missing that there's no question is not even a call for Asian females. Just as Harry Asian females older single white male grew up which hitting wasn't a thing. Single are missing that like. There's no there's no like I want a Harry Asian. Which by the way you're not gonNA find they're all hairless everybody's hairless now. Well no Asians are hairless right. Women are wears actually during the quarantine area than ever which is really funny. Because I'm just GonNa read my last one to come at you with your first one so we're GONNA it's GonNa be me right now. It says Perry black females older singers Single white male who grew up before shaving wasn't a thing really missing that that's the same as looking for any gender carry you know and not gender. Let me on my guys. Wow I really whatever it doesn't matter you got it thing race gender same thing. We're we're all the same. We're all the same. Yeah this the same man has made two different posts for two different kinds of women but he wants them to be hairy. Not Those light women. Fuck Fuck White Women. They're dumb here. I want a nation Harry woman or a black no Hispanics. Either I just want Asian or Black Harry. So we're it'd be really weird. It was too random different men and they're just both both grew up when nothing seventies dudes who really want a big old Bush do eight. Hey if we have a any Asian listeners. I'm very curious about your pubic. Do they. Because you know how like not Harry Asian women are yeah naturally do they have a big Bush like if this man is looking for a very hairy Asian woman. Is that a thing that exists naturally. Hey Siri just kidding kidding. Just kidding just kidding. Sorry I couldn't. Can I say some big Bushy Harry? Asian vaginas it went off. It was like fuck that was like no. No that doesn't exist. I just heard the word vaginas. I'm going away. I'm just curious if that exists now. Well we can't be asking people to show us. They're not trying to see. I JUST WANNA know. Let us know. I'm curious smell. The next step is seeking Cinderella. I have the glass sips. I had the glass slipper. For the awaiting princess she may be ebony white the spanning or excetera the slipper comes with extras. Let's see if it fits rainy coal Saturday. Let's make it better. I actually don't know that's a copy and paste so anything that's now I believe that Rainy cold Saturday so Ebony White Hispanic he didn't put any commas. He wants like he wants a woman who's Ebony White and Hispanic so yeah so any combination GonNa need to see your twenty-three Tommy three in you're not any of those things you have to etc. The or is that how you do excetera. It's usually E. C. T. period no is usually ATC area now. I can't remember yeah it is e- TC isn't it? And I said it would have picked it. I'M PRETTY SURE USUALLY ATC. So it was like e c t mean. But you're right. It is excetera this person really just looking for a lady that one glass he has a glass slipper. And it's awaiting it comes with extras not sure what that means. And it's basically he's he's a call for action for today because it is a cold rainy. Saturday comes with extras. It's funny because it is fits extras. Let's see if it fits but like the last thing I would want on a rainy cold Saturday. Class legroom feet are going to get out of it. Is this glass rain boot now? That's something I'm really interested in giant rain boots made of glass ESA. It's just weird all the way. I'm not even I don't even know what he's I don't even know what the glass slippers. I'm I'm assuming as Pinas. I think he's like let's see if it fit. Oh maybe I didn't even go there. I was just thinking he was looking for a woman. He can treat like a princess and then he was like Oh glass. Liberty Lake was a fake thing. But why would he? I have a glass slipper. Let's see if it were awaiting princess. Yeah she may be Avenue White Hispanic basically. It's just a woman. The slipper comes with extras. Let's see if I want to respond though like I want. I just really want to respond. And then like really fuck with them. Not like with them. You know what I mean. Not like with their. I WanNa talk with their head. Not with them as we're trying to fuck with them. Yeah you get like you're trying to get that you know I'm right and I'm why do okay next up all right girl. You must be as lonely as I am. Because you're reading this Ad. That's all that I read when I selected this because it's like what is he saying about me right now my family and my mom. I don't feel lonely so talk to me lover to be what does three zero two three. Oh two if you want to play teacher to my not schoolgirl this chick then. Bring your paddle. Because I've been very been a very bad girl. Oh wits got this person's phone number on it. Three to four five or zero two zero one. Four four five well. I don't care if you bring your friend what I got enough loving for both of us. Oh you say you're ready to fuck my pussy raw. Let's see it loverboy. Bring it on for a while. That's the rest of their phone number. I haven't got time to train my boy. Oh train up. Oh boy okay. So she wants a guy who's not a virgin. I want a real man pumped me full of come. This is a man. Don't just stare at the picks of my puckered up and tingling nipples. Text me sexy stallion. This is a prostitute and or sex worker. Listen I'm not trying to offend anyone. But like this isn't just like a regular female at like. This is just new girl at these times I get it I get it. I do get it actually because honestly I'm all about like who's exploiting who because our prostitutes exploiting men or men explaining prostitutes because like yeah right now I fucking understand if you're trying to make that money and that's how you're GONNA make that money. I'm kind of like if you've got a family to feed fuck and make that money girl. Yeah I really do feel that was looking me right in the eye like Should make lists like. Is this your. I thought that no but do I honestly like yeah. It is. It is funny. There's a lot of funny parts missing. It's just Buck my pussy raw. That's a lot. That's a lot to say real man to pump me full of calm. Ooh That's a lot that makes me think it's a man because it's just so something a man not a woman would set. They said Pussy whenever somebody put something on the Internet it's true. Everybody knows that this is a female. I'm just saying like it makes me think of a man because it's like fuck my pussy raw and because it says I want a real man to pump me full of calm like I don't imagine a female saying that but if you're a lady trying to earn some money from a man by something you might say because a man would be like. Yeah I am a real man. Who's GonNa pump her full of? Come and yeah WANNA fucker Pussy Raw. You are really want to give her that. Cova via my penis though they said that it that you can Actually get it from Saks. Only I mean if his bodies all over your body and he has right so they're going to obviously the best the best way to do. This is to wear face mask gloves. Yeah but also bang though just from behind. Just make sure you're safe. Take the precautions. You can if you can wear an entire outfit. That's like one of those. You know those ones that are like white and you have a mask on and everything but like cut a slit in the sex organ area. Good to go good to go because it's not sexually transmitted but you know if you get a little of the germs on you. You are going to get it. There will be no kissing during no kissing now anyways. It is funny but also it is. You're right it is a little bit sad and that it's like this is the kind of time. Let year kind of desperate in anybody's like fuck me. I need your money. Yeah yes we'll besides okay. Well let's move on all right. We're moving on to do you. WanNa learn something. Yes I do. Let me tell you friend. Okay I tried to make a song. I think we're really good at making its educational time with Brandy. Why did I don't know why she always says it's Joe? Price feel like brandy has the sweeter voice and she sounds smart though I yeah. I don't think so I think you do and you look smart. 'cause you wear glasses you're wearing glasses to as least where both wearing glasses. I just like brandy sounds better in a song. It sounds like a prostitute. It sounds like you want someone to pump you full of I dunno education little time with brandy but try this educational time with Becca. No it doesn't sound as good and you know it educational time with Rebecca. No No. I'll know God whenever you make it sound more Jewish better education time with Rebecca Goldman. Listen I don't know I just sounds good with brandy so you guys this. This show is called comically anxious in the main point of the show. A my my husband puzzle recently like well. What's your show about an he's right. It's not about any one thing but the point of the show is comedy because life is Laugh Shit and then you die but so we so basically we want you to laugh. And so that's why we make the show because it's enjoyable for us as friends to sit down a drink and chat and laugh and we want you to be a part of that but it is a mental health related. So this is what we kind of decided we're going to do is we. Purchased the DSM five which is the diagnostic statistical manual for a bunch of whatever? I forget what comes after that? But basically it's the most current version of what they're pissed psychologists whatever they use to diagnose people with different disorders mental disorders. So we're GONNA go through that from A to Z and hit them all kind of give you a little rundown on what they are Just for your knowledge and your pleasure I know you're going to get off to this. You guys are toiling to get off this though couple of things. I want to say before you. This is one. We're definitely not trying to get sued by whoever wrote the DSM WE ARE GIVING CREDIT. Wrote it great for you? We are not professionals in any way so as we read this. We're just Kinda we're not even gonna read it straight forward. We're just gonNA kind of going to give you a rundown of what we've read about specific disorders so Were again. We're not professionals. Were not diagnosing anybody. Nobody's diagnosed. Nobody you no one has anything. You're all really normal and fine but this week we're going to be talking about delusional disorder. And what does this under? This is under schizophrenia It's a type of schizophrenia. So from what I thought. Initially I thought schizophrenia was its own thing but it's like a spectrum. Yeah it's actually a spectrum and not I I guess I didn't realize that there were different like different. It was like schizophrenia. Has THE UMBRELLA. And then underneath the umbrella of these different disorder disorders in the first disorder. That is I. I assume that they're putting it in order so the first like most popular disorder under schizophrenia is delusional disorder. So let's get into it so Let's see here delusional disorder. It's important one like if you're getting diagnosed with this it's going to be the presence of delusion for more than a month or longer which this really long time to be kind of having a whole different scenario happening in your. Yeah is different from a lot of other schizophrenia. And that there are no hallucinations. And also that these having delusional disorder. These people are like completely normal in their typical day. Like they don't yeah they're talking to anyone. Yeah they're not like they don't act weird they don't anything weird but they have this one belief like in there is like just one certain belief that you're just like no and let me tell you why and there and they just no matter. How many facts you give them. They believe that this belief is true. Yeah regardless and they can even transcribe it as like okay well I know that you think I'm crazy and I know that you don't believe me but disbelief no matter what you say is the truth. Yes is the absolute truth regardless of anything else right so there's different kinds of delusional disorders. So rata maniac. Type is the kind that You think that someone else's in love with you as like they are in like my neighbor is in love with me and they are obsessed with me. So that's the thought on. Everybody is in love in love with me. Yeah I told you guys are. You are all in love with us. Another type is grandiose type so This is the idea of having some great talent so I think of this as like on those singing type. Show can idle yeah. We're those people really think that they've got this amazing talent. Were they like even though the entire world can hear them and be like. That's terrible and laugh at them and they're like no. I'm good I. That's what I think of when I think of that jealous type So this one I thought was interesting because apparently it's more common in men than women and that's when even though there's no actual proof that the person that you're with is cheating on you you really believe that they're cheating on you and now and that's what I was trying to explain to her at what proof or like or like at what like what's the line between like a delusional disorder or proof that your partner is cheating on you right like that's kind of like that one for me of really rings home because I've been somewhere where I've dealt with somebody cheating on me and like sure like I could have made up all the scenarios but at the end of the day I was right like it wasn't just me like being like being delusional. So what is like what is the like that one for me is like there has to be a fine line between like truth and like like a delusion of that situation right so the the example that they give in the DSM is that the belief is arrived without due cause and is based on incorrect inferences supported by small bits of evidence example given disarray clothing. So like brandies. Point is how can you say that it's not evidence of actual cheating versus faked or like made up evidence like you're thinking that they're cheating on them but so like if you're delusional person and you're like well they're treating me differently and they come home with their top button and they are? They smell like maybe somebody else's perfume like what's real verse like. What's real evidence that they're cheating versus like a delusion that you made up? Yeah because there's always like the question of like intuition like just like straight intuition so windows intuition come into play as opposed to just mental illness. It's that's a very interesting question something that we'd have to pose to somebody who is going to need to talk to somebody so well we're gonNA reach out. We were going to talk to somebody today. Who is a licensed therapist and ask that question? But she was unable to come on the show today. So hopefully we can talk to them next week. Maybe asked that question. Because it's it's an interesting thought I didn't really think about it. So that's the jealous type of schizophrenia. They're excuse me of delusional disorder. Another one is I WANNA say persecutory. So this is the kind that you think that you're being conspired against cheated spied on followed poisoned or drugged maliciously maligned harassed or obstructed in the pursuit of long term goals. So basically this the world is against you like you feel earth believe that something is against. You believe people are mad at me all the time so I believe that the world is against all of us right now. Obviously the world is against. I really feel like I'm not the only one in this right now. Though at the world is against US and somatic type this is the delusion that involves bodily functions stations which we do not understand. I know how that would come into play but we're GONNA find out so Known under that put a note. Well it does go on to say that the somatic type is the belief that you're emitting a foul odor and I think that brandy definitely has that always thinks coochie smells answered tells everybody or that. You just told my neighbors. Okay that your body is infested with insects or like your skin is or you have a parasite or something like that or that. Your misshapen or ugly on basically though this goes on to talk about how this is like more of a physical attribute of your of like oneself will the somatic or what is it the somatic is that what I said. Yeah some attic is so this has to do with like census like like you feel like there are bugs on you are inside of you yourself you think that something is asymmetrical about you or you smell yourself so like using the senses to find a problem with yourself right so Is kind of. It's pretty interesting. They do say though that this is like a last resort kind of Diagnosis like it goes on to talk. About how if they can be categorized under like obsessive compulsive or delirium or depressive and bipolar like those are probably the first things to to talk or to diagnose under rather than delusional but it is interesting That's definitely an interesting one. I do I really. I smell myself all the time. I worry that I stink. So but that's probably no CD thing. I think that that has anything to do. I don't think delusional. I think that I actually do stink. Sometimes but another feature so basically the features of this is a these people can live a completely normal life And even if they are presented with facts that that don't align with what they believe they're still gonNA believe what they believe And IT TALKS. About how an estimated wink two percent of this I guess lifetime prevalence of delusional disorder has been estimated about one point two percent but not super common. This is not common but it is more common in males and females will it says the delusional disorders jealous type. is more common in males than females. Males are very jealous as interesting. Because I'm trying to think of all the people that I've dated and really of the main three like long term relationships that I've had only one of them was really Gel. And that's Rapunzel no. He's really jealous of us but we have he no he. He doesn't care at all he'd trust me no problem even though. I'm totally cheating on him with everybody. I've ever seen people so many men anyway. So that is the delusional disorder and next week. Who knows knows lot going to happen? So it's going to be like a whole new thing we're and we're gonNA teach you about it. Yeah and they're all going to be smarter together or together because don't don't think that we're we're not. We're not professionals by any cause of but we just kind of wanted to go over it just because hey this is kind of what. It's about some sort of an anxiety. That's no it's not even anxiety it's just like a mental illness switch. You can have on top of having anxiety Mental illness so inch in you know if you're listening to this you probably have a little bit of it since you saw a the name of this podcast and thought. Yeah I'll take a listen. I'M GONNA listen all right. What'S NEXT NEXT? Step IS PASTA. I was really pretty. Thank you my God okay. Let's see how the stars are. GonNa fuck with us this week and they probably will because let's be honest right now. The whole fucking world that's US world is on fire. Okay Geminis I and I chose the ones that were specifically love because we need a little loving so. Let's see week of Monday march thirtieth. Have you been keeping your feelings for someone to yourself lately a secret crush on someone? Maybe well after Friday. It looks as if you'll be ready to reveal your feelings and much to your joy. They could be reciprocated. Had I should tell my husband. I'm really into him. Venus will enter your sign and leave your hidden twelfth house at this time making matters of the heart visible in every way. You're also sure to feel more confident about yourself. I actually do because I feel like I have lost a little weight and I finally cut my hair brandy cut. It actually cut her hair during quarantine. So I'm feeling pretty good about myself right now. I've got a right now. I have a new haircut and feeling kind of thin. Yes working for me So what's new so you're sure to feel more confident about yourself which will be an extremely attractive quality others you know. People who are confident are really attractive. Yeah which way March acted to you right now. To make sense it makes sense. Expect plenty of attention Gemini all right. I'm expecting it's going to be. I'm expecting a lot. What's next okay next up so funny yours is funny. She does look thinner. Actually I told her. I don't have any exercise almost every single day that I been at home so I if I do lose weight. I wouldn't be surprised because normally when I went to work. I didn't feel like going anywhere when I got home but now because I'm at home all day I'm like I fucking have to leave the house if I don't if I don't leave and take a walk right now I'm GonNa Murder. My has been and it's not because he's doing anything wrong he's silent but because I've just been cooped up all day I need to get out so I feel like I'm like more in grind to leave the house five hour. I mean eight hours. Eight hours of work I feel the same way same exactly. I'm very into working. No she's not but she did ask me if I wanted to go on a walk next week. In the answer's Yes all right so next up as libra week of Monday is that well those words. Yes saying the week of no. I know it's just that I felt like I. Honestly in my head I was GonNa Talk Weird Week of Monday march. Thirty if your sex. You're you're losing sex appeal. No thanks to Mars moving and tear romance sector. This is the area of your chart that rules pleasure in love and with the planet ruling your Libido in that you know Y- you know that has to spell one thing then if you've been a little rusty in between the she then you and your partner now ready to spice things up and try something new if you've been celibate for any length of time it's possible this phase of your life is coming to a close in the future. Look forward to this turning of the tides libra. A Ho Shit. I gotta go home and Masturbate. I'm very hot. After I was so hot it would be really funny if I like like. Pulled your sheets down and there's just a bunch a rust in their rusty in between the sheets like I'm just like rusty anyways fucking sick and tired listen. Libra zero about to get bucked. Literally literally This spelling out one thing. And that is done Alvarez ready do you wanna read aries or would you like me to read it? I should probably okay. Aries Week of Monday. March thirtieth friends with benefits situation ships. That would it says that option. Oh Aries Dot dot dot love and intimacy are about to become well hectic ocean Mars. Your ruler enters your friendship sector on Monday. Creating the potential for you and Powell become extremely close. The chemistry might be off the charts. And what may turn you on? The most is a mutual agreement to keep things casual with Venus moving into your communication sector. It seems like you'll be taking to at least two love interests after Friday. Oh who are you choose? You have no idea at the moment and that's half the fun. Oh Shit airy aries calm down like like. Lebron areas are really spicy in my Lebron era. Lebron aries right now. Very horny yeah. Mine is kind of like you've been feeling fuzzy but you feel alright could be on an upturn. You're looking very good read recently. You're all right. I guess wow all right. We'll get ready for a super sexy weekend. Then all right I'm GonNa be it's GonNa be. Where are you going to go after this? That who knows. There's so many places open the the might go to the red light district after this really fuck somebody really look into fuck and just looking for fun like in. I send show of fun. I was GonNa see if anybody would answer my texts but it hasn't happened. You just sound that football. What Paul I know? Okay I mean I like you guys. I have this phone into the galaxies Z. Flip and it's a smartphone and it folds and here's what I like about it that it's compact that's it that's where it ends. I don't like that. It's not an iphone because I don't know how to use it but it's fine. I go assault. I have you gotten better with it. Yeah it was like really bitch about it. I really hated it because I've been so used to iphone and now it's an android and I don't know what I'm doing now. It's like rough to have a nice on over doesn't it so weird okay. Any Anyways so We are actually also introducing a new thing. It's topic topic Dan to pick. This is kind of when we think of a topic and we kind of want to discuss it. That's all what's it. So what makes someone toxic? Okay so I was. We were thinking about this on Wednesday when we were boasted wasted and So obviously all the best ideas were coming. Everything good was happening. Yeah totally but we were kind of talking about situations that have happened in life and so when I was younger in my very early twenties I had a friend. Very good friend. Who was close to me is brandy is now and she basically broke up with me saying that. I just was too sad and she couldn't be my friend anymore because I was so sad all the time. I'm not mad at that person Because that that might have been true so we kind of wanted to talk about. What makes somebody toxic? I think that we've all been toxic to people at certain. Yeah I can one hundred percent. name specifics. On time that I have been toxic to somebody else Do it name okay. So with my best friend best friend. You're my new best right new new two years old brand saying you know I had a really good friend and I don't think that I supported her how she needed to be supported and I also feel that she didn't support me how I needed to be supported. I feel like there was a really big lapse in like communication and like Like she she still means a lot to me and I texted her the other day just to check on her because she does work in the health field. And you know who knows what's happening out there But it's not that I don't love her and it's not that she doesn't love me. It's just that we didn't know how to support each other in a way that we needed to be supporting so it was like kind of a fuss where she was like. You don't talk to me enough. You don't do this you don't reach out. I'm always reaching out and I was like I get that. It's just like it's not in my nature like at that point it wasn't in my nature. It was like like now that I'm older and I have friends who have who like realize what it's like to have friends with kids. They realized like. Hey sometimes I'm going to have to reach out to that person and I guess more so than none. I just didn't reach out just because I was so like I had so much going on. Not really realizing how important it was to other people but as I've grown I've realized like. Hey you stop to reach out to other people So in that way with her in another way with An ex boyfriend I had and I kept secrets from him. And it was really like anything bad. I just began like a really good friendship with somebody else. Knowing that it would hurt his feelings and I felt like that was really toxic. Because I think that I made him act in ways that he generally wouldn't have acted But it was like just I had a friendship with somebody and I knew that he wouldn't approve of it of it so I hit it instead of just being direct with that person who I think. A lot of toxicity comes from not just being direct with how you're feeling and what you're needing And so then other people feel like. Oh that person's so toxic it's not even about like somebody being so toxic as opposed to it's just about somebody not being able to communicate what they meet. Yeah that makes sense because that person who was my very best friend at the time for her when she explained to me was that I was too sad every time I talk to her I was crying and I was upset when I was incredibly depressed at that point and I needed help and actually my Older sister sought that help for me. Because I wasn't in a place where I could even help assault. She was like I need to set this up and you need to get help and I feel a lot better after receiving help. But but I didn't know that that was bothering her until the like until the tipping point for her like I realize that it was. I'm not even crying. That's just tickle. I didn't realize that that was an issue for her until the conversation that we had that was like. I can't be your friend anymore. Yeah it's not like so. If she had expressed her feelings earlier like listen like you really need to get help. I can't help you. You're you're talking to me and I WANNA help you but I can't and it's getting hard for me to listen to you not being able to help yourself because sometimes that's how I felt with like you are. We had a friend. Her name was Davy. And you're telling me all these things about this toxic relationship that you're in and at some point it's like I cannot listen to you not help yourself anymore. Yeah so I understand. I have even been in a place even in this friendship. Where you've straight up told me like that's not healthy like that's not healthy and so a lot of like toxicity comes from people not up right about like. Hey I can't like I can't physically take care of this anymore if you're not going to do anything if you're just going to sit there and be sad if you're just going to cry every time. I talk to you like I like. I expect more from you. I need more from you and you have to fix this. Yeah and so. Like people are always like that person's toxic that person's toxic but is anybody really toxic. Anybody really actually going after somebody in a way that like I'm toxic like maybe if they're like a psychopath but otherwise if they're just your friend are they toxic or you just not expressing how you're feeling with that person. Yeah like I think that. Like being open more with like the things that we need will will help to preserve relationships that we want Like as just how it is now. I can say that I was very toxic to my ex boyfriend and was toxic to me and we were toxic to each other back and forth but at the end of the day like neither of us ever expressed what we need it from the other person. Yeah I I've only ever been in one relationship where I feel like it was toxic and that was with Not My husband or the boyfriend before him. The one before that name was Dan. No last name. We're not gonNA give him. Last name is a very wonderful person who I loved very much but he was an alcoholic and he had an issue with substance abuse and there was nothing I I was twenty five at the time he was in his thirty s when we were dating and he wasn't helping himself or like he wouldn't he wasn't willing to recognize it which. I think a lot of people within a substance abuse situation feel but he was toxic to me because I could not do anything to help him and so at some point I had to step out of that relationship. Be like. This isn't working which was really hard because I loved him very much. Just like when my good friend had to step away from me because for her. This was too much for to handle. And I'm not saying stay with someone who has a substance abuse issue because that's different than like somebody who's got depression but but at some point you have to say something. Does that person like I can't stay here if you're not going to help yourself? Yeah they'll have to learn to speak up. Yeah Yeah I'll never leave you. I'll never leave you but if you have any you know any stories about like whether a like a time you were being toxic to someone now realizing now looking back like I was being toxic and or or like when someone was being toxic to you and why maybe you stepped away from them or how you help them realize that we'd love to hear it. Yeah also I've KITA car. I've broken an Apple. Watch on a dresser. I've broken some sunglasses. I've done all kinds of things I've Kita door a front door and so I've definitely been toxic to somebody. I've never done any of those things. I acted out when I should have just told them what I needed. And they weren't giving me when I need it but also it was pregnant so that every obviously the baby was toxic. One not me. It was the baby that was talk. Think everybody knows spun. Really second life for sodomy Next next APP is low at Florida. Maine Florida Georgia. Blinken was arrested March Twelfth. When a deputy was sent to investigate a homeless mail on his property building a shed and throwing chairs on arrival the deputy found old. George hanging out wearing a thong swimsuit and covered in sand as if he was just at the beach when questioned he stated he was an artist that makes things from garbage a garbage artist. If you will. He was arrested after he allegedly refused to identify himself and was identified by fingerprints jail. His arrest warrant is were obstruction without violence and giving a false name or false identification which almost directly translates to. He was doing nothing wrong but he made US super uncomfortable. And we wanted it to stop Yeah you can't just about wearing thongs. They're not comfortable. You're wearing a thong right now. Think about how much more comfortable you would be if you had taken the just about your maximum comfort and what it feels like to not have a song under your sweat pants for your swimsuit or nobody's wearing a swimsuit right now all polls are closed unless you have a private blow much. I'm very jealous. Yeah what why? Don't you brag about Your Pool? Frank private but you can swim in swimming pool. It's mine specifically an apartment. Will I do like that? He is an artist who makes things from garbage. But that's not that's recycling and that is what we need right now is smart man. But also I'm I really kind of feel like any artist like that might be something an actual artists would say you know what I mean like. Think of a piece of art it could be made out of garbage for all you know like because art is so subjective. They might be like yes. I made out of Everything that I found at the locals dump and you'd be like cool. I'll pay you fifteen thousand dollars for that piece of but nobody's going to pay this man on the beach and a Thong and swimsuit to build a shed they know of track. How do they know so it says he was wearing a swimsuit and then a thong? It will like I took his pants and swimsuit off whenever they okay. Wait because it says. The trespasser was wearing a swimsuit and then a thong so as not wearing a shirt or short. I would assume that you would be like swim. Trunks are shorts right. I think he took them off. Wasn't when you're creating art you don't need to be restricted by a pair of shorts. Shorts are very restricting. Shorts are Chong's aren't if you're a man wearing a thong if you're wearing a ladies. Thong as a Man. Things are everywhere. It has to be a special man. Thong to keep things inside right unless it's just very restrictive because there's been a woman song that I even I've worn were in the end. The Thong is so much higher up than all my God. It's all the way. And then you're just like your your crotch and your ass and now you have a rash. Have you've read a rash from the phone? I don't think so. I used to think that I wore thongs in highschool you use thank. You are the more you did wear them and did wear them. I used to think that I would like to wear them. Oh got it and I get a rash off. It was just like Ravi word all the late eighties. All the girls in the locker room in high school. They all wore thongs. It was the thing to do. And you're not gonNA find me where it. I wasn't a locker room right now in high school. I'd be like fuck all y'all know Wendy's because I'm not trying to be uncomfortable under these pants. I'm naked I wouldn't even give a shit now like it's not even embarrassing anymore. No I would just take my fucking pants off. Yeah these are my coochie here my ass cheeks. He'd never seen one while you've never seen your own coochie. It'd be like it would be like a big giant. Furry Bush care you know what immune like in high school. You care though like that should slick. You're wearing a fog. It's up your crotch crack making art. I really WanNa wear took it somewhere else. Legally pretty much a man in a song When he shouldn't have been just take off where the swim shorts way. More comfortable Was making art. Listen you can't just make art on somebody else's property azer interested in buying his art It's actually on our facebook page. Don't look it's not but his name. What is his name? Is George Blinken? So if you are interested in his art now you know his name you could probably find it. He is in jail so it might be kind of like raw. I'M GONNA call it raw like jail are it's getting to be raw like his After that Thong brush them. It's going to be like bald on one side our growth to the week. Okay Bitch of the week. Let's bitch so my to the week right now is that Fuck this shit. Fuck this shit I'm out. I'm so like in the rarest form that I've ever been an where I don't feel happy I don't feel sad and it's I feel stressed exhausted done. Do you know like whenever you see those museums and I'm not saying that. Stay at home moms. Don't do anything but whenever you see those memes stay at home. Mom is a is a fulltime. Have you ever tried to hold down? A mother fucking fulltime job while being a stay at home mom no thank. God? No Oh my God. I thought that I would jump of my very not. Tall balcony was about to jump one story down. I don't care if I just break my leg GonNa jump off the balcony. Breaking Ankle took care. I need to get the fuck away from them. Somebody call the ambulance because plunking can't I can't I was telling Brandy earlier. Okay so this is really sad but you know that really famous picture in the nineteen thirties when there was the great depression and that woman is like standing on her stupor. Kids are sitting there in front of her on the stairs and she's trying to sell them and that's where I'm at in this in this high feeling right now. So many people are there because everybody's losing their job. Nobody has money right now and everybody is stuck there with their kids. Yeah but up until like this. Next week I had been stuck at home attempting my best to put in fuck and forty hours while my kids were acting the Goddamn full all around the mother fucking house. We had to get stitches. We've had so much shit just happening and never my life if I just liked kids more. I've never had them and I. I've never liked them and I've never been better. I've never wanted them. No you have I've seen you. You're wrong I've wanted them for like a brief moment simply out of like narcissism because I wanna see how cute I could make one now. That's it you wanted to wanted to take care of you winning world that's that's also out of narcissism who's GonNa take care of me when I'm old anyways To all those stay at home moms who are like working moms. Don't get it. You don't get what it's like to be a working mom and a stay at home mom at the scene back in time because it suicide. It's suicide I thought. Oh my God I was done I was like I'm about to lock myself in the fucking closet. I don't care about these anymore like I'm done I can't I can't I can't and they were like mom sitting on top of me. Why are you sitting on top of me? Why do we have to have the same snag over and over again? Why have we ate all the organic bucking? What ARE THOSE GLUTEN FREE? Put SWEET POTATO CHIPS. Those were that was my snack and my kids eight at all and then why are we throwing? Ang's everywhere like eggs. Yeah I got up and I was like okay. I'M GONNA get up early or a. m. That up at four. Am That's really really. It's really early because I was like if I get up at four. Am by eight. I could have four hours of work done going to be fantastic four hours of uninterrupted work which is unheard of this. We are not having a I did. I got up at four. It's woke up at six. Only one of them then. She woke up the other kid. Great I'm so glad that everybody's awake. Then she was like mom. She won't leave me alone while try to take a nap and then I just snapped does like nobody's take another nap until the view. I became a preacher. Until both of you take a nap. Like if you don't get to you don't get to be upset that she's making new up after you woke her up. You don't get that you don't get that and she's like at this point she's just looking at me. She's like Tam. She's great loser. She and I was just like no. You're staying awake and then like couple hours pass and I'm still trying to work because at this point it's West I. I'm just like I fucking like really. I'm just ruining myself at this point like I mentally ruining myself trying to work with these kids around. Because they're annoying they're annoying. I don't want him and I love my kids. They're very kill. I love them just know that I love them but I can't get anything done with them around me because they don't listen aber they were FDU. I'm like do you guys gonNA take a bath. I mean I've had a bubble machine in there. It's going to be great. And then they still act up. And then I'm like dude as Lon- like I'll make you like Gourmet Mel. I'm GonNa Make Lake and it cut up some onions a minute. Cut Up some. I want it. I cut up onions. I cut up like Bell peppers cut up puck in Bagan an eggs. I made them a gourmet breakfast with goat. Cheese I got so delicious that does sound good. It was good and then say are not my my five year old does like. I'm not hungry and then my one year old was like I'm going to drop this food everywhere five times. This was like so sorry and this is what I've been through this week and so that's my bitch Louis. Very small minimal. Mine is just work work. Work Work Work Work So we worked for the same company and just like many companies right now. They're going through some shit. Everybody's just everybody's going through some shit and it sucks because I want I want all the good things for not only myself in the company in general but for everybody who works there because it does matter to me that the company is employees are happy and I don't want anybody to feel like they're not making money so it's just kind of the position that I'm in because I am in HR. I feel like I have to give bad news to people and I fucking hate that and suddenly to them to meet to like. It's like hey you're poor me too but it just it's I feel like it's beating people down emotionally like I honestly it makes me think about how the beginning of this year. I wanted to go out on New Year's Eve and Brandy was sick and my husband was sick and we had purchased really fancy nineteen twenty style dresses like almost a year before to where. I remember like joking about it on that day like ten years until the Great Depression. No that happened now here. It is and so everybody's got no money like my husband's jobs that he's going to be getting paid two thirds of what he normally makes an. I got a big pay cut and brandy got a huge pay cut because basically they were like unless you have something to build to you get no money. So it's kind of like as really stressful. Yeah we're probably GONNA be Posting on craigslist soon. The just look out for us. Yeah look out for my like banging you craigslist ads. But it's stressful for everyone. Obviously not just us. It's stressful around the world. Like everybody's feeling it right now and honestly. Yeah I just feel like what's the word I'm looking for? My mom always says because she's a licensed therapist she says I could catastrophes which I do. I having anxiety but like right now no like everybody's catastrophes ing like Shit's going down. Yeah and it's it's really crazy because like not only are we catastrophe. Catastrophe icing but also were stuck with our kids. I'm not although deb did. Wake me up at seven thirty this morning and she wouldn't leave me alone like why we're not going any backup a called me five times. Sorry I called you in the nine o'clock hour you have three young children. You should be awake now. Not In. This should be awake and at first I called her. She didn't answer is fine. Caller again. Shouldn't answers like now. She's dead caller again. She didn't answer. I was like okay. She doesn't call me back. I'm going door her apartment and I'M GONNA make sure that she's okay. Eventually she called me back like maybe thirty minutes later. It was like. She's fucking lucky. I wasn't already finished with her my hair because those curling my hair and I was like if I had done I would have been at her apartment knocking on the door. Nice hair I would have been at her. I was like was soon as I finish my hair. If she doesn't call me back like I'm going to our apartment. Yeah but I did call back but I was still sleep because I had woken up at four again because my body was like it up before were yeah. They anxiety is really making me wake up to. I even took a sleeping pill. Yeah so if you're feeling that kind of anxiety where you're like I can't sleep I encourage you to get some Melatonin really train rest. Because here's the only thing I can say we're all poor and we're all in a bad spot right now so try and take souls in the fact that we're all struggling at is at the exact same place unless you're a nurse if you're a nurse in Gill yeah in great job. Anybody who's a nurse or doctor? I doubt there's at a grocery store. Grocery store workers anybody in the healthcare industry. Who Else Anybody. Who's doing taken? Nobody who is essential adding you. Thank you thank you. We appreciate you just bought. A Burger today from takeout. But thank you thank. You couldn't do without you. Honestly we couldn't so keep it up and we're probably all going to have to apply to jobs at like Walmart and target ship because we're all going to be poor and have no jobs so anyways life is terrible and we love everybody. Yes so what's next brandy? Next job is getting the fuck out where leaving you try if you love the show. Tell a friend. Nothing's spreads better than one mouth to another not whether we hey daring Komen listen. We're trying to spread this Kovin. Trying make sure your friends know about this. Please give us an apple podcast radio. 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10 Trivia Questions on Clueless

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10 Trivia Questions on Clueless

"As if you can get all these trivia questions right it's ten questions on the hit nineties film clueless written by new Patriot Subscriber Mike Edwards this is trivia with buds it it be and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks checking out my show. If you like Trivia you're in the right place. Because this show comes out every single day you can hit subscribe to get those new episodes daily on your device and you should do it right now. We have a fun episode for you today. It's written by my friend Mike Edwards does he spells his name with a Y.. M. Y.. E. And he lives in Whittier California. He plays while my live Trivia nights down there at Turnbull's tavern every Wednesday from seven to nine. I'll be there later tonight. It's a real rip roaring crowd and a great time so come out and play. If you live anywhere near Whittier California. 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We're going to do these ten questions there are tons of fun and we'll see how many of these you can get right out of ten here. We go all right. It's ten questions on clueless knowledge and facts extra Mike Edwards of Whittier California. Here's question number one. What Superhero did Alicia Silverstone play in a nineteen ninety-seven Joel Schumacher moving along with George Clooney and Chris O'Donnell question number one? What Superhero was Alicia Silverstone? I'm back in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven question number two a Lisa Donovan and Dan Haditha were also in the same movie with a couple brothers who were party animals malls and Saturday night live alums. What movie was it a Lisa Donovan and Dan Haditha or also in the same movie with a couple brothers who were party? Animals and Saturday night live alums what movie where they end besides. Ed's clueless number two question number three two clowns circus liquor store that I mentioned in the intro where share got held up was used in three other movies. Can you name at least one question in three clown. Circus liquor store where share gets held up was using three of the movies. Can you name at least one other movie question number four. What's the card game? They played <unk> at the house in the valley called. What card game do the partygoers play at the house in the valley number four number four question number five who is the other person or or persons to do their rendition of clueless besides iggy Azalea Song Fancy Hint it was a spoof at the M._t._v. awards in Nineteen Ninety six who were the other people to do their rendition of clueless besides iggy? He is Alien Song Fancy. I think that's the music video for fancy. Hint it was a spoof at the MTV movie awards in Nineteen ninety-six question number six she tried out for for the role of Cher Horowitz but with all my children and landing the role of Buffy the vampire slayer she would have not been able to do it. Who are we talking about their number six he tried out for the role of share and but with all my children in the landing the role of buffy the Vampire Empire slayer who was not able to do number six question number seven for clueless trivia true or false clueless is the second part of a trilogy with the other movies being fast times at Ridgemont high end loser number seven true or false clues is the second part of a trilogy with the other movies being fast times at Ridgemont high end loser number seven question number eight what actor went? Onto become a marvel character ant man and also appeared in avengers endgame number eight what actor from clueless went onto become ant man number eight question number nine Brittany Murphy played the loveable loveable ditzy niece luanne platter on this Fox Animated Sitcom for thirteen seasons. What was the name of the show bringing Murphy on what Fox Animated Sitcom for thirteen seasons number nine and question number ten donald phase on starred on the comedic N._B._C. Show about a bunch of medical students at Sacred Heart Hospital with Zach Braff and Sarah Chalk? What was the name of that show number ten what Shows Start Donald Phase on Zach Braff and Sarah Chalk Doc all right those are your questions for my friend Mike in Whittier right down all your answers or hjelm out loud however you play along with the show and we'll be right back in just a second with the answers yeah we are back with some clueless trivia answers? Thank you so much Mike for Writing these questions. If you ever want to be like Mike Michael Jordan or Mike Edwards you can send me some trivia categories always looking for content. If you want to send me categories team names for your trivia nights that you use. If you want to be the Trivia team name of the day or just good old-fashioned questions like Mike did this one feel free to email me anytime Ryan buds g mail DOT COM. Here's question number one. What Superhero did Alicia Silverstone play in one thousand nine hundred seven Joel Schumacher moving along with George Clooney and Chris O'Donnell that was back girl Barbara Gordon from the movie Batman and Robin Number One question number two a Lisa Donovan and Dan Hidayat were also in a movie with a couple of brothers who were party animals S._N._l.? alums what was the movie that would be <hes> Will Farrell and Chris Catanon a night at the Roxbury night at the Roxbury. I'm not familiar with Allison Dan but they must be in both movies number three the clown circus liquor store where shared got held up was used in. Three other major movies can you name at least one you said blue thunder from nine hundred eighty-three spun from two thousand two or Alpha dog from two thousand six. I've seen the second two of those have not seen blue thunder but he said any one of those. You got your points number four. What is the card game? They played the house in the valley. Suck and blow play that game probably a few dozen times in college number four suck and blow number five who is the other person or persons to do their rendition of clueless sort of paying homage to it besides iggy Azalea Song Fancy. Mike Was Looking for the MTV movie awards spoof in Ninety six from the golden girls so I guess the actresses that played the golden girls did a spoof of clueless and that's what <hes> <hes> what he was looking for number six she tried out for the role of share Horowitz but with all my children and landing the role of Buffy the vampire slayer she wouldn't have been able to do it. They're looking for Sarah. Michelle Gellar Sarah Michelle Gellar of I know what you did last summer fame as well well number seven true or false clueless is the second part of a trilogy with the other movies being fast times at Ridgemont high in loser. Mike says that's true. I don't know if it's an actual trilogy or if it's just like the second movie from that same filmmaker but you could call it. A trilogy of sorts is what I would say because I don't know are they actually connected. I guess I could Google it. 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Emma., Clueless, And What's Making Us Happy

Pop Culture Happy Hour

25:39 min | 6 months ago

Emma., Clueless, And What's Making Us Happy

"Jane Austen's Emma tells the story of a young woman who knows what's right for everyone else and knows very little about herself in a new film. Adaptation Emma is foolish and as endearing as ever. Even if you don't know Emma you might know clueless the nineteen ninety-five Amy Hess Film. That's now twenty five years old Glen Wilton and I'm Linda Holmes we're talking about Emma and clueless on this episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR here with me and Glenn coming to us from W. X. Pin in Philadelphia is Christina. Tucker of the unfriendly black hotties podcast. Hello Christina. Hello Hello Friends and joining us from. Wb You are in. Boston is Margaret Willison. Who is one half too bossy? Dame's and one third of the appointment. Television podcast Hello Margaret. Hi Guys Hi so good to have both of you guys with me and Glenn so Glenn. I want to talk a little bit about the new Emma I. The director is autumn to wild and there is an adaptation from Nineteen ninety-six at had Gwyneth paltrow. And it's interesting to me because this is not a in some way wildly different Emma from that. They're both kind of trying to be. I think period authentic as they can being as authentic to the languages they can smell like one of them is like the set in Modern Day Brooklyn adaptation or whatever. What did you think of this adaptation of Emma? It's always interesting coming to these things because I didn't grow up reading. Austin I still haven't read Austin I think the most interesting thing for me about this particular film is how determined it is to paint Emma as both a sympathetic empathetic person. And a truly repellent monster and and really delights in walking that line from the first minute we see her. She is picking flowers while she's not picking flowers. She's directing her servants to pick flowers. And she's doing it and kind of snotty way. But then she turns around and takes those flowers to somebody and a very nice gesture so the movie knows what it's doing here she's handsome. Clever enriches as the first opening line of the book goes with very little to distress or vector. I was really only interested in this film The more she got distressed and vexed and not in the whole heterosexual hand-wringing stuff. That is the kind of plot. Churn here Kinda lost me there. But whenever she would say insult a well-meaning if basic acquaintance or treat Harriet character. Barry played by me a goth whose this person she's trying to set up in a in a kind of unkind way. That was like okay. This is interesting. And the physicality of the actress Mia Gov playing. Harriet the so fun to see because in any scene where they share on your Taylor Joy. Playing Emma is just still an precise and MIA goths head is just kinda jerk and all around the place. She is just a not poise. Wayne and my theory. We're GONNA come back to this and we talked about coolest. Is that the more you feel for the Harriet character. The better the adaptation become. I would much rather have been called. Harriet because they didn't really care about Emma Christina. What did you think about This Anna Adaptation. I was thoroughly charmed by it. I was not clamoring for another adaptation of Emma When I was thinking about what we need in this current movie landscape but I was fully bought into the world of the characters. Everything was so lushly realized and just like looking at it is such a delight. Also that score absolutely bangs was a great experience for me And I think I do agree with Glenn on some level of like the heterosexual hand-wringing. I'm not interested but I do love those moments where they lean into kind of the barb and worst parts of Emma. I think that makes the film a lot more interesting and I think the film is I had a great time. Yeah I will say about that score one of the things I really like is it's a mix of the kind of Instrumental light stuff that you might expect in a movie like this but there are also these appearances of this very kind of throaty coral music. It really reminds you of kind of the human energy vibrating under this very proper story. Yet I was very very grateful for that Margaret. What did you think so? I'm probably the like Austin nastiest of the people participating in this podcast. And what I would say about. This adaptation is that it had incredible and engrossing visual style like to look at. It's really remarkable. I just wish it had had as much of a point of view emotionally on the characters as it does visually on the world that it's presenting and there are so many interesting veins in this story that could be investigated more speaking of heterosexual nonsense. One of the most interesting one is. Is there a homosexual context to the relationship between Emma and Harriet? Is it a one way thing does have a crush on? Harriet does have a crush on Emma or do we have a crash on each other. They don't know what to do about. I have yet to see an adaptation. That approaches that question and I think it is very pertinent to the text and trusting as the person on this panel probably most inclined toward heterosexual. I will leave. One brave outnumber. I mean one of the things that I liked about. This is that I will say as to both Emma and Knightley. The the guy who is her kind of potential love interest with both of those characters had the same reaction. Which is that. When I first saw the character presented I was like no no and in the first opening moments of seeing On you Taylor Joys Emma Portrayal of Emma. I sort of thought like I don't think this is GonNa work because I'm not gonNA come around on her she's imperious. She's actually like to mean and she's to snotty and I'm GonNa come around on her but I will be darned. I did come around on her and when they first were showing nightly I sort of thought like I hope this isn't because you see him as a man getting dressed and I was like I gotta hope this is a nightline because I don't think so because I'm Jeremy Northam nightly either is a much more kind of classically. It's kind of what they were. Doing with austen adaptations at that time. He's a little more kind of the classic British you know. I don't know Glenn Likes Employees. They're making fun of Churchill for like being a fine young gentleman and writing all the way to London to get his haircut and I was like man. I wish I wish we would follow suit. Yeah and here's the thing about that. I thought was so interesting about it I think. Now in retrospect that the Gwyneth paltrow. Emma was afraid to really lean into the fact that Emma is a bit monster. I agree and I think this one is a little more willing to make her. Not just an innocent. Who's very young and needs to learn to be more careful with her words but really that she needs to correct the way she approaches other human beings and that makes the emotional turns of that character more resonant for me because to me. The most important scene in Ama- is the Picnic Zia where she has. Glenn alluded to lashes out at this in not lashes out. Maybe that's wrong but really kind of cuts deeply this woman who is sort of obnoxious to her and woman who is extraordinarily well meaning right but boring exactly and played by Miranda Hart who is wonderful way love and it's always Miranda so good in. That scene is so important because nightly really delivers a dressing down to her and simultaneously. You need that dressing down for her character and you also need it because in a film that is so devoid of emotional expressive nece in terms of romance for most of the run of the movie. It is oddly. That scene where you realize how much he cares about her and is invested in her and his disappointment in her behavior speaks to the fact that he loves her. Yeah and that is a very hard thing to pull off right. It's very hard to pull off that like. I love you so much that I'm here to tell you that you need to change. I think they make it work here and I very much appreciated that right. And what about the scene at the dance? I saw this film four days ago and I feel like that scene is still going on so much in a two hour. Movie was just off forever. Sexual Monson is that it is also important character moment because you have to feel the weight of the humiliation that. Harriet is going through to understand how highly she values nightly so. She's like scorned by this Guy Amazon. Trying to set her up with and very publicly and the nightly comes over in league dances with her and she feels very saved. And if you don't have the longevity of that dance you don't necessarily feel the depth of that lake discomfort and humiliation down. I would like to test that theory shorter version. Because I'm Bet I would've still felt the same way I think Christina and Glenn are on the same page virtual high five so one of the things we mentioned the intro. Is that even? If you're not familiar with Emma itself. You might be familiar with clueless. The nineteen ninety-five Amy Heckling Film. Which is very much an adaptation although it wanders from the structure a few ways This is Alicia Silverstone as share. I love so much the fact that Emma is kind of this central name around which the whole story rotates and then they named her share. I just there's something about anything is so smart and then Paul Rudd as her ex stepbrother. Josh and a cast of many the wonderful Brittany Murphy tie the sort of equivalent of your Harriet character. Donald Saisons exactly donald phase on Brechin Meyer. Who is the high point of trying to make and break and Meyer happen in a lot of that lasted for a couple more years? I can say as someone who was a teen I. I'm for sure and like Wallace Shawn an actress. Named twinkie. Kaplan buckling playing to the teacher. Who who share tries to set up with the wall Sean character. We could probably do a full like hour and a half on everything about clueless. You WanNa talk about clueless a little bit as an Emma Adaptation Glenn. Where do you come down on clueless as a version of Emma as I said before Brittany Murphy is so much the beating heart of this film? She is so charming and that's going out sporadically. It's so necessary for you to kind of feel her and when you have an actress Brittany Murphy. Of course you do because Herod is again the thing around which the whole film pivots now. I forgotten so much this film. I'd forgotten all the plot. I just knew iconography. I knew the yellow plaid outfit share starts off the film in. I knew as if which turns out not to be like a one off thing. It's like a catchphrase comes back a hell of a lot. Yeah and I kept waiting as was watching it for the toothpastes. And when did they do the toothpaste scene where they're spit the sink? And it's like. Oh No that's that's not silverstone and road that's Dunston Bradford and bring it on five years later but you know it all kind of mix it up. I think service donors fine here but man. It wasn't if it wasn't for Brittany Murphy. I don't think you're GONNA film here. I disagree so strongly. I think everyone does a good job. But I also think silverstone I mean. It's not much to say that it's the best worker for career because she hasn't had much of a career after this but it's an exceptional performance Christina and I were texting about this last night furiously texting seriously texting. Yes at one point. She says a line in Slang. That should be absolutely ridiculous and she manages to imbue it with like. Oh she says I'm totally bugging here. And that's when she found out that the boy she has a crush on his gay and to say the line. I'm totally bugging here and imbue. It with complete naturalism insincere. Meaning is really hard and she nails it. I just think she does such a good job. With the role. Her sunny warmth does so much to establish sympathy for the character that there's space in the sides and then how she sort of presented within the movie them to be like much meaner to her than they might. Otherwise be right. They were working with less sympathetic actress. Well right and I think the interesting thing about this to me when I watched it was realizing that this is another one where they do not give much weight to her being a mean person what they what they rely on instead is her being kind of an empty headed person. They make fun a lot of her silliness and her flightiness and her unserious nece. The closest thing that clueless has to that wonderful important picnic. Scene isn't a series of kind of much lighter Much lighter scoldings from Josh. That make her feel bad. But it's not the same and it's partly because she's sixteen and they're treating her much more as a younger teenager kind of still in the process of being formed so I think they don't WanNa come down on that character too hard and it's more of a straight forward comedy. I do like the way that they map. Certain kinds of high school characters onto Emma. Yes I very much love that just maddening. Jeremy Sisto performance as Elton out. This this he so good at just being this drip but cool sweaters doing a lot of that work. Yeah but like the decision to have him exchange that little role in with the homeys thing with. Yes it's so dumb and yet you understand that it's like smarmy Christina. Help me out. It's smarmy but it's also something that could would in that moment where you in high school catcher. I like. He's one of those guys that you see and you recognize not out of. Oh this is something I enjoy but oh this is something that I really wish. I'd seen all the red flags for when I was watching this movie. Last night was the first time I'd watch in a long time and I had not realized how much of it was just straight up imprinted on my soul. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched it but I knew every line. Every plot point was still with me and the chemistry. Between at least you're silverstone and Paul Ryan is so perfect his reading of come on you know you're gorgeous has stuck for my whole life. I think yeah. People say read has aged but the good thing is like when you look at this like no. That was baby rudd. He's he's aged aged very well. Congrats to you Paul Rod. Yeah just really delightful film. And I fully agree with Margaret that. At least you silverstone at her absolute best here she makes some of those ridiculous lined all for little winds and sound that she makes so perfect in. A lot of as Margaret said a lot of very silly slang in her mouth and then I think she mostly is able to carry off. Yeah as is true of many nineteen ninety-five films. You do catch like. It's the middle of the nineties. There is language that people use that you would not use now that you kind of will stumble over a little bit when you hit it if you do a rewatch I don't think the story with Christian the Guy Turns out to be gay really works at all I I I've never really cared that much about the equivalent. Emma storyline either though. So maybe I just don't care about that. But I do think silverstone I'm on I'm on team Silverstone with this movie. I think it's a performance. It's harder than it looks. The characterization of every individual in this movie is so good at every moment your interacting with them. I think you are feeling about them. Exactly the way Amy. Hecker laying wants you to feel and given how fine some of these characterizations can be an how much nuance there is to them where you're supposed to perceive sweetness and idiocy and live misplaced confidence almost all simultaneously. That happens so consistently. I think is just incredible. I think it's I think it's a perfect piece of filmmaking. I'll just go ahead and say it yet. Well and I think that when you want to properly credit this movie you also have to acknowledge how easily it could have been. Totally expendable and Franco Ball. I'm trying to sort of say something about teenagers. And any time you know. Grown people try to make a movie about teenagers that uses a lot of teenage slang and sort of makes fun of them but also empathizes with them. It's a really hard balance to strike to kind of make fun of the way that the kids are dressing and yet somehow still. It's clear that you love them. Numb from from a story perspective when I'm Writing Perspective so taking on Austin at adapt is a very popular thing to do. Because it gives you this. Easy sort of marketing peg but adaptations are also really hard to do it and to create something. That is so perfect and complete in and of itself. Like you would never need to read emma to understand clueless and when you do read. Emma will you come away with is not like Oh man. It's a shame that clues didn't manage this but it's just like a whole new level of respect for the thoroughness of what she accomplished. And like the completeness of the Social Miyoshi captures which is a part of Austin. That is often overlooked right. Exactly all right. Well you can find the new Autumn dwelled Emma in your local probably art house theater and it will stream before you know it so I do recommend it and clueless. Of course you can find in your In your streaming stores when we come back it's going to be time for our favorite segments. What's making us happy this week? So come right back. Change is hard transitions can be even harder. But they're also an opportunity to explore and discover and reimagined things. You THOUGHT YOU BILL. Roedy the new host of NPR's Ted Radio Hour and with all this in mind we've decided to make my entire first episode about re invention subscribe. Listen right now. Welcome back to pop culture happy hour. It's time for our favorite segments of this weekend every week. What's making us happy this week? Glen Weldon what's making you happy this week. Six the musical recently opened on Broadway. But I feel like I've been hearing about it for a long time. It certainly feels like a idea. Whose time was overdue. So the basic idea. Six wives of Henry. The eighth are Rian visioned as pop divas who perform a concert where they basically step forward and sing you their story in their own words from their perspective. So there's a beyonce. There's Nicky Ricky that Arianna Ref. There's lots of riffs but it's more than that and there are moments. I'M GONNA be honest here. There are moments. Certain Chord progressions where you will feel certain at the whole thing's about to stop because Linneman Mullah RENTA's lawyers about the storm infamous seeks this letter. The songs are all great. I have recently taken to crawling inside the song. Get down which is sung by. Henry's fourth wife. The German of Cleves who Henry married so the story goes after seeing a painting of her by Hans Holbein but it turned out. He was disappointed when she actually showed up looking different. This version of the song is from the arts theatre production in London where was played by Genesis Linnea. Let's hear clip. No criticism can lutheranism shot. Okay Ladies Let's get an reformation okay so if you're scoring at home that is to solid pieces of business in the same verse Lutheranism Restoration. I cannot wait to see this musical on Broadway. You can get a cast album now. But that is six musical on Broadway right now. I think Mike told me that. In a unprecedented I pop culture happy hour and not only did I select this exact musical but also this exact song a hint this specific clip. Luckily I've got a backup happy about which equally enthused but you can consider this one at double verified. And if you're interested in Morris six experiences there was a great feature done by the New York Times with the two young creators on the process of taking this from a small show at the Edinburgh fringe to Broadway. And it's a superfund read. All right. Thank you very much to to Glen. And of course to Margaret. I'm going to get back to you in a second but first Christina Tucker. What is making you happy this week friends? We are in the fourth season of free forms the bold type. And I'm here to tell you. It's still slaps it is still a delightful way to spend forty five minutes of Your Day. It is Centered on a trio of best friends. Jane Cat and Sutton who work at the fictional scarlet magazine it follows their love lives. Their work lives there foolish and very special episode e. Type lives also their editor in chief. Jacqueline Carlisle played by the exquisite Minora. Harden it is just delightful. The three main actresses have such an easy and delightful chemistry that their friendship really feels real and lived and even if they are doing like a very special episode every single episode about their lives. And you know just in these days. We need a little bit happy. We a little bit of fun so go hang out with the ladies of the bowl type on all of your streaming friends all right. Thank you very much Christina. Tucker Margaret Wilson. What is making you happy this week? So my proper happy for this week is built on one of the most successful recommendations. I've made on the show to date like the thing I've had the greatest number of people come up to me and say I'm so glad you mentioned this on pop culture happy hour. I found it because of it and they really love it and so that popular recommendation is the book bellwether Rhapsody Kate. Requ Leah and my related recommendation. Today is the book. Tuesday mooney talks to ghosts also by Care Kula. That came up this October. I've just been saving it and I want to make sure that the people who really love bellwether new. Kate had a new book out and for people who hadn't found either if you are an adult to whom the game meant a lot as a child like these books are made for you on a cellular level and you deserve to have them in your life. Caveat Kate is a friend of mine but that is chiefly because of how long and publicly I have loved her writing so take that recommendation with the appropriate sized grain of salt but it is a perfectly sincere one and I hope you guys like them as much as I do all right. Thank you very much. What is making me happy? This week is a book that I have finally gotten to sit down and spend some time with. It's called the two lives of Lydia Bird. It's by Josie silver and it is about a woman who has a kind of a life changing events and then she kind of begins to her life kind of divides its little bit sliding doors ish to wear you know one version of her life where this event happened in one where it didn't happen and you know the thing that. I like about this book as not just the quality of the prose which I think is very good. I think the books just very charming but it also is really really humane and interested in questions about how people recover from trauma and how people move on with their lives when something very unexpected happened than their questions. That that I that I think about a lot also and in addition to being a book that I really like. It's a book that I got to the end and I was like I agree with everything. This book links about life and people it does come by the way from Ballantyne the same publisher as my book just to disclose that. But genuinely like you know. I really really enjoyed this one and enjoyed spending time with On a plane and at home and other things so again the two lives of Lydia Bird by choosy silver and brings us to the end of our show. You can find all of us on twitter. You can find me at Linda. Holmes you can find blind G H well. Then you can find Christina at sea underscore Grayson tea. 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Nikki Glaser, Andrew Collin and Justin Robinson guest

Doug Loves Movies

1:26:34 hr | 1 year ago

Nikki Glaser, Andrew Collin and Justin Robinson guest

"Don, candy, wrapper screening. Every. Bindings doug. And I love movies. Coming to you. What's again from Tacoma, Washington? Just rearranging some of the chairs because all of the chairs because there's people sitting directly to the sides of us. And I want them to be. I try to be awesome. That guy said it was also all right? Somebody gave me a shit ton at donate. He's already. So yeah. Get your faces ready for that. All right. It's Saturday January nineteenth. And we're at the Tacoma comedy club. Four twentyish, and it's time. To see some name tags. Where's your name tag? Yeah. That's what I thought is the closest Saji doesn't have a fucking name tag. Look at him with his arm. The thing all cocky, Scott of the dead. Great job, Scott. Jeremy he said of ET and my face is the moon. Not a compliment. Very Brady what sequel that that was the name of it, right? But you drew it you see through it for you. You're disqualified, sir. Let's talk about hers bridge in the hood. Your name's Brigette. Okay. I saw you guys walking the streets. I love the lights on the name tags. That's amazing. Still can't read them. But they look great. This was got this. You've got the fuck in Infinity hand. That sounds like something like an invention that lets you jerk off forever. The infinity. All right. Well, lots of great name tags. Oh, there's that. Judgment day. Doug shipment day. I saw that one on the internet today. But yeah, great job everybody and be ready to whip those out again later that MRs Doubtfire ones, really. Really quite special. And yeah, you hit lower those people behind you want to see the show, but. Next time I asked for the name tags, hopefully, someone from from the facility can bring the house lights up a little bit. That'd be helpful. It's not my first time here. Time for Doug plugs. Everybody's favorite part of the show. Where's he going after this? Where's he going to be the weekend? Go well. Vegas for one. Douglas movies is coming to the comedy cellar at the Rio hotel. It's actually on the first floor. But you get the idea. That Sunday January twenty seventh and four twenty Douglas movies is back in LA on Tuesday. January twenty ninth and Dallas Texas hyenas on Sunday February second also for twenty. Yeah. Hyenas? I mean, I it's not as good a name as Tacoma comedy club. I'm serious. I mean, I love eaters but shit Tacoma comedy clubs says exactly what you need to know. Is just like, oh, some silly laughing animal whereas that where's that going to happen? All of my dates lakes are Douglas movies dot com. From the corrections. Depar- having talked to the corrections department while I've been Bailey. But I I did have to reach out and have a discussion with them about. How Kieran nightly was in four of the pirates of the Caribbean movies. Yeah. The the fourth one she was not in. She was not in on stranger tides. So I'm glad we cleared that. Worked out pretty good. Let's check out the prize bag. I don't get too excited. I had to fly here. And I I only went with a carry on. So it's it's lovely items. But they're small starting with my my most favorite thing. I was here in October at the Tacoma dome. Participating in call the Lebanon haze cannabis convention in comedy festival. And here's they're beautiful, sir. I really liked it cert- giving one away today. So you can't. You could hope town pride that shit at hopefully, we'll come back and do that event again here because it was such a good time. Here's a little red kerchief. Ben Danna thing. You could do a pocket square. If you're gentlemen, shove it down your pants, if you're. No, no. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. The weed is to good here. Douglas, movie sticker a Hank hill sticker. Check that out. Raise your hand to kill raise your hand. Do you know? Hey, hell when you see him. Yeah. He knows. And then I was in San Francisco last week and lovely people the dispensary called spark gave me a really nice grinder that we share with you guys on the off chance at the winter like marijuana hard to imagine somebody who doesn't in this region. But I guess it happens all that is the price. Plus, I'll throw some fucking donate ease in there. Keeps them to throw to throw at the audience. Yeah. And if I guess I'm gonna throw donate ease at my guess. Please give it up for Justin, Rob Andrew Collin, and Nikki glaze. Seeing this person on a. A real accomplishment. Other y'all know me, you don't know me. From that thing. Yeah. On real world in nineteen anyway. Sorry offense to. Doogie Horner and Tom took are, but you're on with them. I feel at this time. I really feel it. Yeah. You're definitely the most famous person in Tacoma right now. Okay. Person should get a plaque. City of. Would I take this car downhill straight into the water? He whatever does lost control and just gone go to fake may have at least one is certainly maybe even on per maybe on a bird. I mean, it's for Cisco style streets around here. And I don't know why you don't get air more often. When I'm just walking around a pedestrian. I'm like God. I wish I could get air. Like these cars could if gun at a little air to be a head. You're right. It's true. I was just on a run, and I some, and I and I kind of like, I don't know your laws about jaywalking. But I soon you can because there's just like patches of time where no one's coming. So just I'm not an idiot. I think I'll be okay. So I went his car came out of nowhere. And I wanted to get. Haunted me. And I just I, you know, I was embarrassed. So I did the thing of lashing out where you're just like oh. Like that kind of thing. And then I flipped them off. And and when they were like far enough away where I feel like I could get away. I flipped them off. And then went on a run. And then I got back to my hotel and the guy, and he was like that was really upsetting for me. But you you've got so mad at me. I was excited. I saw you. And I. And I. Like fan fan. So I was so excited for that guy. 'cause I guarantee you are zero celebrities jogging Tacoma. This is the city. Visit what you want to stay in your hotel room for a couple of days. That's true. That was amazing when you can't feel it. It's nice and warm and your room just sit there Tacoma dome. I do like this city. It is both beautiful and sad. You know? It's like an eater. It's each. And there's something beautiful that against all at one. You guys got everything here. Glad you didn't take that offensively, and you kind of embrace it because you know, it's so true. It's so true, beauty and sadness every corner. What I will say that it's chilly is it can get here in the wintertime. I will still visit because it's west coast chili and not fucking east coast. A weather put that west coast hill is like it is this no joke. It's beautiful. It's our ran outside today. It was great. I mean, it rains all the time. It's it rains a lot here you as always ready for the rain. You just assume it's going to rain like at some point in the day, right? Because I was getting dropped off at my hotel the other night, and it was right before my show in the manager was like, what's do you want me to pick you over the show? That's like a good impression of him, by the way. Like if you take birth. For the show. A legit, Tony if you know, Tony so. What could mail Tony? I hope I hope the internet doesn't find out. And he goes. He goes all pick you up and I walk over because it's close enough. And he was like, oh, no, it might be raining, and which I found like it. Yeah. I think that's also like it might be like dangerous it might be raping outside as what he was saying to me like it might be raining that was like a code word because they didn't do streets. Couldn't be alert deserted around here. That's true. But again, it's because no one wants to be out. So it's only the most hardy of rapists. You. Most rape, Mr. Lacey. They're all through like, oh, I do today. But burr. Rapist out about here are probably dressed like the I know what you did last summer villa. And you know, they're all like Gordon's fisherman. Already. Don't trust that Gordon's fisherman to not semen or the worst. There. All right. Let's beat my guess instead of instead of just one of them. Let's start with her. Nikki Glaser everybody. Host of you up with Nikki Glaser on Sirius XM channel ninety. Serious are rental car. Tune in. Every morning Monday through Thursday, two hours every morning or very least find somebody who does have and get their code because serious is not good keeping people from sharing their code. Really? Yeah. You could give it like ten people. Oh my God. I didn't hear it for me. I did not endorse that. Yeah. Yeah. So I have a show every morning on that. And it's great so fun. What happens you'll be back in time for Monday morning show. Yep. I my schedule's insane. A show on the Martin Luther King day. Yeah. Work we're coming into work. We're working Loda. Yeah. We I we we I don't know why why am I working, I know rents. I think it's 'cause your rents. That's right. Okay. Sorry or you just want to give racist. Something new to listen to. There's so Avery that everything's sutdown. On that day. I wanna give them new content. They're going to be said racist. Truckers are going to listen to you all morning on Monday, but take you for being here. And you got two more shows tonight that I would mention if they weren't sold out already, but they are. Straight up. Brag. Dexter Nikki directly to her left is gentlemen, who's opening for her all weekend long. And you've heard him on her show. It's Andrew calling everybody. Thank you. Thank you. How's it going, dude? It's good. I'm good. I don't know. I'm nervous. I haven't seen that many movies. So just. Step outside catch up on a few. You have a DVD. Cram all night, we got like the hotel has six channels of HBO. You a really could've really studied a shitty eighties movies and pay for a room for me. I sleep out in the streets with right this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm out on the streets. Win t town bay. Call t- talent. I read that I read that. We don't go go call. All the hotel brochure then. I read t town is what I say everyone loves me down bay. Yeah. There it is. Thank you. Would you say that here? The people tell you to tack off. But they give for being here and panelists. You know? I'm in love him. If you've seen Douglas movies in Seattle or Tacoma because he roams between both areas quite freely. Nomad? Yeah. It's just said Robinson everybody. Everybody. A k a Rev his name on on the radio show is Rev in flake. Oh, yes. Reverend play go radio name. Yeah. You gotta have. Christ. Jesus christ. No, no. Well, I am ordained universal life church because anyone can do that. And then the infla- goes because I had a video game character that so just based off a game character for Reverend. Yeah. Waco is because I had a wizard with the last name in Waco. His name. Yes. Absolutely. Play go. Space. Tried to kind of Italian a little bit at the end there. I just picture like a guy like a Mexican dude and Robert Rodriguez movie with with a clerical collar, but he puts his bible and shoots fire in people's faces to me that's revenue Twi go. Sorry. I took the name as a dumpy fat white guy with a beard and bald hair. But. At your mornings on k s I w the rock. Hey, I w ninety nine point nine. Yeah. We do the morning show with Jay and MIGS. And I know you love me because I do all the trivia questions. And yeah, I mean, you're the more, you know, those guys have been on this. So, but they don't know shit. Yeah. Pretty much I especially with Andrew here for his first time. And and Mickey's a frequent competitor. I wanted to bring in somebody strong. What? And JIMBO what that means. Is that some shit sequel the Dumbo? The guy at works at the circuits. Year palm, JIMBO. He's got big ears. But he can't fly. All right. So really quick though because Nikki you have a morning show up with NICKY. So what should you should give Andrew Collin? A he's on all the time to give him a nickname like morning show lick. He does what is puddle boy. Puddle? Okay. So. We're on the road together. And and the key had been on some podcasts that morning, and he's getting a lot of feedback Deums from ladies just say different stuff being and one of them said you make me puddle paints. And the he told me this like bragging, and I go, she means sheep. She's not turned on by you, you made her laugh so hard. She peed. And then I funny. Fun. That's come. That's definitely com. Dawn by his story. Some podcasts that she puzzled or. And so he was like a little boy. And I go you are I can't deny. Reported puddles and there so we both named ourselves. We are. -ality? Overnight. I woke up in the morning, and you relocate bottle boy on Instagram. You know, what's young demographic? Fourteen eighteen I'm telling you know. All right. All right down down. Do you have a nickname? Everyone's well, somebody tries to Peter nickname on me. But it never six because I don't I don't hang out in groups. Gotta be gotta be around people that all start adopting it, and I just I change it up all the time. It's hard to get nicknames going over DM's and techs. I agree. Yeah. I've never been a nickname person. Either. You're the glaze now the delays. Throw a doughnut at you. I call myself dog sometimes. Oh, please. Don't sell snow glazed on you said you never say never say, glazed. That photo boy. Have a bell in the studio cut first thing in the show. You ring it when you got glazed. Bell would be broken thou. On the show tonight. Apparently, you don't pay attention. When you are. She's not getting any no. That's all I talk about picante. I'm so I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It happens enough. Oh, dear. Oh, let's move on to the part where you guys share. What you brought for the gift? What do you got just oh fancy the ghost of Christmas past bunch of shit that either got or I found for Christmas. I think in our house. So I think most of them are pretty cool. I wanted to start off with a fifty five count of candy canes. Candidates. You magin? How mad you'd be? If there was only fifty four and they're. Like fifty five isn't a normal number. I was kind of surprised at that town like you need a fifty count and just five extra. You're getting like that would sell me. I'm like fifty five. A board game that I'm pretty sure I got as a gift on the Cellophane's. Nice little party game. What's it called just one? Oh, I see a board game for loners. Solitaire. Volunteer. You'll love this. If you're really lonely. Here's some fun feta play before you go shoot up a place. Candy. This christ. And a bottle opener. That is a key. It's actually a wedding souvenir from my wedding. My stink bunk, weddings. So it'll actually open up beers too. You got married to a steam poke. Yes are boasting punks. Yeah. We did it out in Vegas. The Bonnie springs ranch. We had everyone go out there and got all dressed up in. Mean to steam the simplest is went Goth meets Brown. So think of all those loaner weird kids what and they discovered like the old west or Victorian times. And then they add like years and shit to it. And boom, you have steam. In will Smith's wild wild west. Yes. Right now. He definitely deserves to have ownership of that will Smith's while. While. Wow. It just means you like to dress up like that, essentially. Yeah. Like with steam punk. It was like instead of electric city. Everything is still essentially steam powered so lots of pollution and to size all of the horrible conditions of Victorian England God. Yeah. It's fun. Okay. I get it. I think I'm sold. Very a lot of rust. Yeah. A lot of a lot of steam come to run away. Oh, yeah. Finally, the the Goths bringing it down. It's too hot to wear in the sun. Let's go Brown. Earthy man earthy Goff. All right. Well, thank you for all that keep back down throat with the other bags and Andrew what do you got for us? I know he's sprung this on you yesterday. Yeah. I they wrapped it so I feel all right. I'll run after the gift shop at the hotel all this for you. I put it on her. Wonderful. It's a wonderful gifts off unless you're looking for like aspirin or something that you would need in a hotel glass. There's a lot of products that have nothing to do with what you might need it. She's like everything here's supports local. It's all local artists or supporting artists. I'm like, I don't feel like I should be supporting this anymore. Sounds like in may blink. If I worked the by a night of. Guys, guys, sit around shit out of glass, get it together. Good. But other stuff it's like, this is the job. Don't even. Four from art. Are you interested in a stack? We have a lunch Ables made entirely out of glass. I'll take a pizza. All right. So this is not glass. This is edible edible lips. Oh, that's made. By a local artist. He told for my lips. If you want to. Right. Okay. There we go. By like, like wax. No, you could eat these are cookie. It's oh, it's a cookie cookie. Cookie. Cokie, Lou thought it totally is Jonah. It could be vagina to-. Oh, she sold it to me horizontal. But now I gotta deal at four dollars. Skid vertical? Okay. There's more. Yeah. Oh, and they're all individually, wrapped this lovely her wrap the cards. We she put protective wrapping around a deck of cards. I get it around fucking face cookie. But God deca card protection. Yeah. So you guys know these. Yeah. It's a gift that keeps giving really, you know. And then this is the big one. This is okay, sir society. I'm sorry. This is also wrapped. Sorry. It's in here. It's it's a glass. Then she laughed and that I don't know. Found something that's a show fish. I think. It doesn't it. Just looks like a like a blob Akam. Does what like I guess it's a to get nice pussy live with glob glass com. Really does I'm not trying to be crass for the sake of it. It really just does look like it, really. I mean, that's that should be thing. Like, you know, an interesting name board. I forgot whatever. This is so many babies that didn't happen. Turned into a nice nice piece of glass. Yeah. That's it job. Andrew that's your first prize bag attempt. And I think you did great. Thank you. I give the. Somebody gave somebody something to eat and a hobby. Yeah. Third thing. All right. I just have one thing. I I was gonna I didn't have a gift I went to that dome gift shop with you earlier, and you purchase all these things before. I don't like anything in here. And I knew there was some good stuff in there. Sore being like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I was going to just bring the sex kit from my hotel room, and that's twenty eight bucks for like a convents blue like no sorry a used. It's ten bucks. Then I went on a run to go to the ten things. I hate about you stadium in town. I love you. Cool. Yeah. Okay. So then other. Breeze over that he Betty's ledger voter. Voter grace die before he died before. Yeah. Why did you help out? Why do sit encourage I told them this is late in his career. And I told them my favorite movie was ten things. I ate about you like late in late in his. He was like he was already the joker at this point. Yeah. He was the joker. Yeah. And I told yeah. Sincere bugging love that movie. I love t town. So good, isn't it? I went and saw that Saint, but when I was running there. Iran has this old toy store that has like old vintage toys, plus like new seven everyone has different and I'm walking through and dorky. So what's? Joking. Hold hold game. Tricky to not associated with door. Go. I often get told that I look like a WWE wrestler named. Charlotte flair and I found her toy. I like. The person that I've been told I look like I think and this is so cool. And I'm so excited about I'm going to sign it. Yeah. I love this. She's so cool. So it. Yeah. I bought it. Oh, the Glades. There you go. Place dog Charlotte flair. Looks like a coaster coaster tumbled up to the floor. Oh. This. It's got Bill Cosby on it. Says I love pudding. Pudding my dick where it don't belong. Phil. From. I would claim that say that I grabbed this bag from backstage. And it had that that's what it had in it. Coma growth through here. And that's what he sold after shows. Oh my God. You by lucked out that I grabbed that bag. Oh. I need a minute. That was really take. I did not expect that to be so fucking funny. I was like no way. This coast are going to have a good joke on Cisco. We said yet the brought a smile on my face. Where is along. Don't love code would've made no sense like five years ago. Like what? There used to be joked that used to be at hannibal's act. Oh my God. Okay. One question before we get to the the games portion, which I'm sure is what Andrews really nervous about. No, I'm not nervous at all. Well know yet your hot Reverend. Blushing just in. What was the last movie? You saw in any format. I just actually this morning ended up going back to back and watching the documentaries on the fire festival. So fire fraud, and it just fire. Oh, that's shit is amazing. Like it is insane. That just this like sociopath who apparently just loved the movie Wall Street decided to charm, the shit out of so many people like I watched the Hulu version I and it just shows what a total dick bag is. And then the net flex went. Basically just in shows you like every single person that he fucked over like ethically. And it's just it's amazing. How him in jail rule just took so many rich white people people's money to so much. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really feel bad for recommend one over the other. No companion. I I should watch one just to see because one of them actually has the dude in it Billy McFarland and just watching him score. When they ask him random questions. It's kind of fun. But then you get to actually see the people that were involved in it who believed in him with the Netflix one. Yeah, they say that you should watch the Hulu one and then the net flicks. One is like a bonus footage. Yeah. That's basically. Yeah. Start with. That's what I did. I mean who doesn't sponsor this show. So do whatever you want. Whatever feels best to you guys. Andrew. What was the last movie? You saw I saw creed too. Yeah. Yeah. The big great et Al area. Yeah. Wasn't. That's kind of unexpected. Wasn't. Fired up about Cree too. This excited when they get around to creed three. All about to you guys. Yeah. It was it was. All right. Yeah. Right. I'm sure it's fine. Like, I don't know why there's more they make you feel bad for the bad guy so much that it doesn't feel like you don't give a shit at the end when they fight, you know, why did decreed fide like? A handicapped person all seen it. Yeah. Yeah. He fought a guy in a wheelchair and. Nice wheel. Drug goes kid. He fought dry drama. Why do we care about him? Because his mother didn't talk to them or something anyone seen it. I bet there's a lot of people. Drag owes mother doesn't talk to. Drag. Oh, like what the fuck. Yeah. So. Yeah. Like so after drug lost day like all of Russia. Sad. Yeah. And so then empathize with his experience like rough as opposed to just being broken Russian piece of shit. Yeah. I don't need. What's with that guy? Yeah. Anyway. People people random shit during this show. Andrew don't worry about it. I like it. You don't have to handle it can stand up. What you just move on? Nicky. What was the last movie? You saw a star is born. Impression hair thought face. No. I really thought that I thought lady Gaga. I just thought her I didn't love it. I gave it a solid B minus. I don't know. I wasn't swept away in it. I just thought they had amazing chemistry. Definitely think they've had sex. Like one hundred percent sure that Bradley Cooper and lady Gaga bad socks. 'cause we kept the dog. Right. What he did that? The dog so much. I'm gonna take it home with me. Holds. Scene. Of course, you fall in love with that dog. We're all supposed to like, oh my God. He's such as a guy. The dog. Like, of course, everything else said that he liked he took home dog. I have. No, I have. No, I just their chemistry was off the charts. And it was just the way she talks about them on the talk shows. You're just like something went down. So I like that about it. I can your monkey your Gog on Prussian. About about Bradley Cooper. And how great he is. You know? Well, the thing about proudly as one hundred hundred people can be in a room and one person does it most of the people in that room. Go know what the fuck you're talking about with this analogy over and over. But if one person does. Bradley Cooper, Bradley Cooper. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. So very bucks. I just try to jazzy. Like. You know that song by friend. My friends Stephen Faulk brought this up on Twitter that saw line is the deep end deep. I don't I lot been what really she says leap in. And it's about a pool you fucking dive in don't leave into a pool. Defend watches. I dive in. You're right about that. You asshole. That's just crazy to me. You don't you should dive into a pool dangerous, especially but the shallow pool. But you turn the more you hit. Well, hopefully. I don't know you know, that Bill like the thing that bothered. Let me just say a couple of things because I just got beef with this movie that everyone finds so perfect. Okay. She sings like two lines in a parking lot. Like, he writes, a whole salt around. Then she is like I don't want to sing. And she goes out in knows the whole songs that she did it right with like he wrote us that was unbelievable. It's more amazing that he knows all the words to saw she told him in a parking about because he's the one that's fucked up all the time. She's been thinking about her songs. So many I could I could keep going. But yeah, did you like it? What? Oh, you did. We saw once though I got to go through that that weird period where it's like on airplanes. And I watch it too many. I should watch it again. I mean, I guess it was I don't know. I just there were so many moments where she was like he's chasing her all down like trying to get her to come tour with them. And it's like any girl in her position. Would be like, yeah, let's do it. And that she's like putting up such a fight. And that she goes to work and one person says one like she puts on her clothing. She's pushing them out the door. She's like, no. I don't wanna go with you could stop leave me alone. She goes to work it takes one her boss to be like while you're kinda late. She's like I'm leaving at like what? Okay. You wanted to go by this Bill that was for nothing just go. I could've left. We could've saved twenty minutes. If you just went like you wanted to don't let your golden parachute get called the door on the way. I think that. Lead. Yeah. We're Golder zone of okay. Okay. Home. Like, yeah. Put it was pretty aggressive traveled a long way to be here. She came from Arizona settled down. To zone. I mean, anyway, all right, right. That was a great latest movie round up a lot of tips different tests. The first time that's gotten applause at the end of it. But this is the pie. Why say? Dear Tacoma comedy club. If we bring up the house lights just a little bit. Oh perfect. Lots of. Feast is on the. How you guys are going to do it. So I if you have to pick one name, there's so many good ones pick one and bring it back to your seat while you do that. We're going to go to brief commercial break. We'll be right back. Hey, there new sponsors this episode. So I'll just talk about me 'em Las Vegas who was coming to see Doug loves movies at the real hotel comedy cellar in Las Vegas. This sunday. January twenty seventh at four twenty show of hands. I can't see you. Also coming up, and I'm very excited about it on April nineteenth at the Royal Oak theater in Royal Oak, Michigan. I'm doing my annual. Countdown to four twenty show. It starts around ten fifteen pm and then at midnight. We'll do a countdown to four twenty and then we'll go outside and do you know what? And I'm also very excited to say that my four twenty show this year is going to be on Saturday April twentieth at the Wilbur theatre in Boston Massachusetts place that recently went. Recreational marijuana. So I couldn't be more excited about that. All right. Back to the show. All right. We're back. We did it good. Good job. Everybody. Always so many good name tags here, you guys never disappoint. And I appreciate that. But let's start with just in what you end up with this one was tweeted at me, I think by someone named chief wacky do and it is my face. So immediately I'm down for that. And then it says TJ to Doug mid day or Dutchman day and then just candy. So it's also like amazing. Dutchman day is day. Luke out for document day. You'll close to me now. Great jobs. Lots of candy on the two. Who you play for Andrew avengers Infinity? Chris. What? Come on. Have you seen this? Why where's the stop? So weird. Why are you just wiggling out? There you go to go to the Glades. All right. Having fun, actually. Who wants to be figured? That looks great. See that for a second. Find the other failures. Thank you. You wanna put it there? You want to like it? Okay. Cool. I didn't know what you were doing for want anybody's hand to be in that thing right now. I gotta show to do the way you're working that thumb. Holy christ. People need to pay attention. I'm sorry. I I mean, this club already has better lighting on the to heckling it's up in the corner. Tacoma is dim as shit. I got. Stupid. Stupid like Joe. Oh, lighting everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not that. It's like every store you go in it. Just feels like a coup guy's dorm. Ru. Everything's low lit in this town, every place near should have the head you reading glasses when you walk. Because the lighting is very low. And it's this curls out of love to talk about it's bad here. But I have never noticed. I only noticed today. Andrew and I were walking in. There was a smell of human poop that was probably human. Yeah. I think she's talking about the smell of human fish. No. I haven't noticed that. Tacoma, a Rome. Okay. Stunning. Let's say if you could make anything run people are gonna love you. All right here. We go. This is beautiful. Melissa's doubtfire. Just send this to be earlier. And showed me this. Maybe just amazing Photoshop and I've never felt so beautiful as I do on Sally fields body and face just like my face on her face. So I was like, wow. I look mazing. Yeah. It's a line pretty. Yeah. But I love it. I love it. Yeah. Throw that they're throw them all down on the floor, actually. They're just so just the artwork is so good is tracked. It's true. Kick mind, we got a show to do here for some games. And this I won this. First one is called. Swift justice. Normally, I don't like to play games favor any particular guests, but Nikki doesn't win this one. I'll be surprised. I'm going to read the IMDB description of a movie that happens to have the same title unrelated to a Taylor swift song. Fuck. I was nervous. A lot of Taylor swift songs lineup with movie titles. And this is one of them. Just guesses often as you'd like and the person who gets it. Right. I wins. Do you have any guesses? Nikki now. Yes. I do. I do. What's your pre guests began again? Oh, yes. That is a movie. But no, that's not the one. They chose today. You know, what this is? I'm almost out of disadvantage because I know so many of her songs that it's like too many things to choose from. No that's not going to sell. I'm not going to sell never mind. Hey, if there's folks sitting around this lady keeps talking could you ask your stop? All right. Let's do this. Let's do. Android. You have a previous. Yeah. Back to December. Keep no. The deep cut. Even the name of one of her songs. It is back to. Yeah. Don't you guys when I was gonna ask you to try to say it, but he went right into. There is no have trouble sleeping. Playing back thinking about while you leave. About some or all those beautiful what from the passengers? I'm going to waver. Taylor swift. All right. All right. Let's do that. Okay. Are you ready for it? Yeah. But the title of a movie. Although I will watch a movie called are you ready for? I sure better be dancing and better be in VR. Here we go. This is Taylor swift song. That's also a movie don't don't yell out guesses from the audience, please and alien orphan. Mac and me. I wish there was a Taylor swift song called nine any fucking Taylor swift song. So I'm just going with this say, but that's a Katy Perry song. Really and alien orphan is said from his dying planet to earth where he grows up to become managerial his adoptive homes. First and greatest. Superhero? Superman. Yeah. Jesus. I don't even know. She does have a sequel. I'm literally cannot name a Taylor swift song. No. But you know movies. That's awesome. It was fun. Nikki, well, it's gonna be rough from your on. My only chance to shine. God. Yeah. We've been playing Justice for a while in the show. Now, we've gone through all of them. I think I think I haven't done begin again yet though. So do that. If the guests are people that don't listen to the show. But now we're gonna play this is special just for today. It's great that Justin Robinson just one this first game. Because this next game is called meet the Robinsons. Sweet. You're going to go first Justin, then Andrew, then NICKY. And you're each going to bid on how many Douglas podcasts been going for about a little over a decade. Now say a little over. I mean few years over. I know right. It's crazy. In all of those years. We'll start with us in closest without going over wins. How many guests on the show have had the last name Robinson? Think about it in your head all the famous Robinsons and all the ones that would agree to this. And then give us a number Justin Robbins. And of course, it's obviously there's at least one because you're here. Justin robinson. This is true. I'm going to say six he's going six. Yeah. Now is this prices right style closest without going over. All right. So yes, six what do you think Andrew? I first name Robinson or no. You know, it's funny. You should mention that it should count. But it doesn't 'cause I had Robinson Crusoe on once Roberson. And I was like, well, I don't believe that expression. No man is an island because you're here. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with. Go with nine nine. Nobody agrees with that. Terrible. Be right. What do you think? I why was gonna go with all take the right under five six six. Go five then. Because I think it's going to be three. I mean, it is without going one its without going over just say one. Bullshit bullshit. Right. This right. That was so amateur. I apologize soul. Attacked and I go. Go back to. He wants that seven in me. Okay. Stick with also have seven now. The real loser. Either way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hearing a loser. There. It's a lose lose. Two at best. What are you? If you've been listening. All right. Let me break it down for you guys. So exciting. Justin robertson. Heretic day recently, first time guests on the show. Becky Robinson, good. She taught me to do a impression of Jennifer Coolidge. Oh, wow. Really? Well, did it and I just went. Oh, yeah. That's how you doing. Oh, wow. You love him on the office Craik, rob it said. That's three. He did it before he became a movie star. But he did it after doing my show from love Simon. Nick Robinson was a guest on Douglas movies. That's four and then who listens to Star Wars minute podcast nerd. I mean, I'm grateful. There was at least one. So thank you. Yeah. That shows of course, co hosted by Alex Robinson, and that brings the grand total to five rob. Nine wins. Good. Even Robinson can't keep track of so many just all over all over the place. I used to think I was related to all of them like football and everything. Yeah. Twenty-three in me and you're like sorely mistaken. Pretty much. That's what you. You gotta be invited got to be invited to be related. You've gotta be related to some of them. Right. I have no idea. Maybe sure having the last name. I think gets you there a little bit. I do fall everyone who's named. Justin Robinson on Twitter. That's fine. Just to kind of creep him out. Yeah. They'll talk to him. And it'd be like a other me how you doing? We're kind of save name like, I know. That's so weird. Yeah. I go a different route. Everybody has a name Doug Benson. I murder them. Like, the one aren't any left tax don't make anymore. I hope there's no more because I'll do. I'll be the first person they call. Where were you the night that the person you threat, the guy? Guy. You're gonna do that Boyce when talking to the dick. So I think it's good when police are interrogating him to try and sound like a Muffin. Right. I was on stage last night. And didn't know that those things were there until I was on Saint to the freaked me out. So. I try to do my joke. But looking and trying to get more information about what was happening over there. Yeah, they're both. They both have their hands. Folded like they're praying that the comedy is going to be good data. Learn waldorf. After hotels, and right and one of them has fucking Christmas had on stage. Don't you guys have a ladder? Or does he prefer to hurt? War. Good. I don't know if you does about me, but. But I'm trying to become an impression. I really really working on my impression is that. Wow. Oh. Last man stead. All right. So this is the game that's going to determine it all whoever wins this game. Someone's gonna go home with all these bags of stuff, courtesy of all of us. I have I have it thrown donate a second who wants Dona. Yeah. It's called putting it hands. Nikki would you like to throw Donut? Yes. There's no way it's too dim in here. It's too stupid in here. That's not what I meant. I hit the guy. All right. Hey, don't worry about Justin's just because it's been on the floor. All right in the back. Don't worry about it. I try to win. Sorry, guys. Probably should've loved it a little bit. There got a little. Got a little bit on that one. All right bring the lights for that. But. Thank you. There's a few more left in there. What do you call? These mickey. Doughnuts. Yeah. It's very easy. Right. Do people. Call don. That's what's Arnold always thought growing up to these are called Donets. So that's what I call them. Now. It really is a door -able. All right. So the game last man, STAN audience knows how it works explained to you guys. Real quick. I'm gonna get the name of maybe one maybe two who knows maybe three actors and actresses. And then all four of us have to make turns make turn Kurds. All right. Come on. You guys make attorney let's make some turn change your life right now. No, we're gonna take turns naming movies that those people have been in two can't think of when you're out. But also, you have your lifeline. You can go to you can go to what's his name. Justin, TJ TJ. Yes. You can go to TJ. Mickey can go to Melissa Chris Andrew can talk to the head. Great. That here this guy. What's his name? Chris. Oh, it is Chris. Reich it he took the tarleton thunder toy in added tape to it with his name. That's what sold me. It was. Yeah. Yes. Pretty impressive engineering for your Washington sanely, expensive collector's item. I have at home. You have. I actually have that at home. Yeah. It's really cool. That's like somebody on hoarders pointing to pile of garbage collectors item. All right. Where is she? Where's grit city chick? Yeah. Hi, what's grit city? That's tacoma. Yep. It's the great city. Change your name to t t town chick. Hell, yeah. Did down dim city. Cool. Sounds like a horror movie, I don't wanna watch Tim city. Town where all food is presented on carts. Then city. What are you? What's your actual name grit city? Check. Michelle. Okay. And what's your suggestion today for last man Stanton? Jeff gold. Ladies love. That's pretty good one. I got to look at the panel. Where's your confidence level on Goldblum? Andrews not feeling entirely. I want to create a safe space for Andrew. I I know you know, who he is. I know we the tall guy. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, bro. Let's get another name just to just so we have have a backup here. Whereas. Whoa. All right money. I didn't expect someone named bunny to be so. So swell. Spe-? I wanna make sure I have the right one. Do you spell it? I good. I. Eighty. Why why why that's how you spell? It. Can I see an ID? All right bunny. What's your actual name, buddy? Listen, man. Wow. That's her name. Dickey? Babysitter your kids. Yeah. Okay. So this is a long time ago. Not recently, I babysit for Muslim in and I can do a pretty good, Leslie Mann, and she talk like this. TV like what she she was awesome. They were cool. Yeah. This is the line from welcome. Welcome to win say, what's with all these dolls? What's what's with all these dolls? That's pretty good. I don't even know the showing. Okay, buddy. This lady's yelling at me. Wait what I'm still ios stuff? Okay. Bunny? Oh. You know, what you're going to say. Are you going to say, Leslie, man, what's six? Planning through. She picked. That's not her name. I asked you what you real. That's an actor. I thought bunny was Leslie man, I saw I said what is your real name and yelled you, Leslie, man. But that's not got ahead of yourself. I'm sure you smoked a lot of weed. I'm very proud of you. But I need you to focus. Not pick such a shitty. Name. Leslie van is just too. Okay. I love Judd. And Leslie says hi to be sometimes so. Right. Can you picture it? Like, I'm judge friend. You know, you just got worked into it had to be okay. Okay. So we've got Leslie. Jeff goldblum. Let me look at the panel. I don't think you're feeling better. Thanks, Leslie, Mann addition. I didn't know all right. I got I for three. I exciting game. I want everyone to have a chance where is? Queen L Qasr play. Clean out. Where are you at? Oh, I could see you high side section over here. It's really guys. So people sitting over there can't see you at all. So just talking into the void. But what's your name real name, Jennifer? And why did you call yourself that? Queen L costly. Don't you have to dress up as specific person when you're cost playing? And do so many different people that she has her own name place. Oh, no. All right. Nice. And who's your suggestion for today? Really? Do you? Do you have any that are less dead? Man, just kidding around. Because Brittany Murphy's dot going to hear it. Okay. So I'm sure that didn't help fell as much but today, we're gonna play films of Brittany Murphy. Leslie, man, Jeff Goldblum. Mickey you won that last game. So you gotta go first then Andrew then Justin then me I like to play along. And don't forget about your lifeline. I recommend using it early. But I'm crazy like that. What do you got Nikki clueless? Lead off the Leslie man, I was little forty year over surprised. I think Mickey is saving those Leslie man's to really clean up at the end. Justin, the fly. Jeff. Okay. That's how we're going to play. It. Do you ever when Jeff Goldblum was described earlier as tall guy? Yeah. He's in a movie called the tall guy. No way. That is so fun. Title, even the Brown. Yeah. Quite wait. What? There's people try to say it's the tall, man. But I disagree. It's my show. Back to you. Nikki ladies talking again. This is forty forty those. Did you see that movie? Keep who's right Paul or Leslie. I don't remember the plot line enough to wait. Upset that they made her more more terrible than she needed to be. Remember, I feel like Joe actually wrote down things that Leslie said to him. When you see somebody say, that's Paul Rudd. You're like come on. Paul road, you talk. You don't talk to my Paul Rudd like that. We all do feel like keep we like, he's hours. Yeah. There's nothing. He can do roses sweetheart clueless. Okay. Back to that. Again, Andrew eight mile. Oh. Nice. Just it knocked up. We man. Oh, I have to say cause I just saw in it's nuts. Welcome tomorrow in. Yeah movies. We're. The cable guy. Yeah. Oh fuck. The cable, man. Cable, dude. You got this Andrew oh independence day. Jeff. I was like those ladies word in that. To sin city ready. Murphy. Full title. No. That was the full title of the first one. No, I think there was more words even in the first one it was. All right settled down. Thanks, guys. Intense. Care for that. What was that one where she was all like? And he was like sorry every movie. Oh, yeah. Rhetorical. I wasn't. Was it hoping for actual answers? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go deep Jeff Goldblum and say invasion of the body snatchers. George the jungle. Photo. It's not it's not like sex and the city towards in the jungle. No, it's not. It's not most part. Georgia. Yeah. That makes more sense George in the jungle passer-by. Got it. Thank you. You're good. You're not gonna win. Anyway. I know. Who address? Yeah. Shit you use your lifeline? Curse. Chris. What do you got? You're a Toronto. Yeah. Drastic part. Jurassic park. Yeah. I guess I should have been more more clear that movies were Jeff all has a certain open count. Just in Jurassic world. You could do that. Stepper down. I say clueless to then. Then you would be out. You gotta make sure they were actually in the sequel. For you say. I'm gonna go with long as we're talking sexy. Joel George Jeff Goldblum in the jungle. I like I like the say always. But I think he was at its peak in a movie called nine months. Nice. Yeah. Grant was like, hey, I'm the skinny one settled down. Mickey. Seventeen again. Thank you. I liked that movie not gonna lie to you. So good. It's really it is Leslie man's graded it. Yeah. Matthew Perry's great at it, briefly Thomas leadin screen. It's just it's really if you wanna watch a movie about children. That's not annoying. Seventeen again skip that old George Burns shit eighteen again. They need a really good job with the remake reboot. Andrew you already. Chris. Do it twice once. But what did he say? Do you? Remember what he said when you went to Chris. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said it already. Yeah. What did he say Jurassic Har Har Har he said Jurassic world? Yeah. Leave leaving a lot of Jurassic table Jurassic five. One dollars. That would be the right answer on. Doug loves hip. Hop. The jungle Jurassic your. Jurassic? Drazek Dono Jurassic me help you out. He's not in drastic park three. Okay. That's only one is not. Back. Replay college. I did. Justed? I getting it. Right drastic to the lost world. It's fucked up at that wants fucked up the title because it's they don't do it. There's no to and they do it out of order Stoudt say you guys. But do you have your switch something else you are to your life? I'll just go to something else than guardians of the galaxy. Okay. Wait, which wasn't that? Guardians of the galaxy volume two. All too. Are you gonna say fall too? Yeah. He's a he's a you're right. That was close. I don't know. What you do it over there? Jesus. I don't know why you weren't just say Thor ragnarok. 'cause I was thinking of the wrong movie. Yeah. You do see him in the second guardians. Go ahead. Nikki uptown girls. Britney? Yeah. That was good. Justin. Came back at you fast way. Too. Fast, lifeline, TJ, hell TJ. What do you got? Girl, Interrupted by Britney. Murphy was in. That's right, you, okay. So I'm going to say stick into Brittany Murphy. I'm gonna go with oh shit. What was that? She said it in the movie. I'm not gonna tell that's not it though. Right. I fucked it up I'm out. Mickey out. Yeah. No way. I said it wrong. You did. Said George of the jungle or okay, you're out to. I just want you to. I wo-. It's okay. For me to be on with anyway. New york. Okay. Wow. What I was talking about. Now, it's one where she's like in a psych ward. And she's like she knows who murdered somebody. But she won't say don't say just a. Wow. No idea. Jurassic world, default when kingdom. I'm hoping he's in it. I have no take one word out dress world fallen kingdom, really. Nikki you ever gone to Melissa yet. Have you? No good at all. Right. Save it. If you got another one, I don't okay, go to Melissa. Hotel of hotel. Which ones? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is. What just to? Nothing. I got nothing. Really, really? Yeah. See? Stay. Oh my God. Never won anything. Have never won anything the opposite of dancing with the stuff. Yeah. I know I was on dancing with the stars. I got I voted off. And now I've won and its redemptive. Thank you so much Melissa come get your stuff. Get out. Get your blue. Melissa. Yeah. Come on down near front of this. How do you get everything? Thanks. She gets all of awesome. No. I don't know. Hey, you two. Yeah. We've got the same look. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it. Thank you so much joy. Justed passed me your name tag. If you could tell us what you'd like to plug list. Weekday mornings if you're in the Seattle area, you can listen to me Monday through Friday, six to ten AM on Jay and MIGS on ninety nine point nine w. Six forty seven eight forty seven. You can hear me ask questions. And then also I've got a geeky podcast with the show with a BJ called geek nation where you get to talk about a lot of geeky shit. So please subscribe to that on all of your stuff. Yeah. I don't know where the speaker is on. This thing though is they didn't one of the fingers. Yeah. Put your hand in your hand. Anyway, it makes some scary noise. Sounds like a storms come in. Someone's gonna joke off like they never have before. I mean, that's Edrich call and what have you got to plug, dude? Just go to my Instagram, Andrew t Colin, and then I have a podcast called happy never after. And then on Nikki show you up when the Glazer every Wednesday. It's great channel ninety five Sirius XM. Thank you a lot of fun. I mean, you took one of Nikki's plugs. But that's cool. Yeah. I'll give him another plug. He's seriously. So funny on Instagram. Andrew t Colin you should really follow him. Yeah. He was great here today. Funny. Stand up is so funny. He's opening for all my tour dates I am on the road every single weekend across America until like the end of summer. So go to my website, Niculae's dot com. And check out what I'm going to be in your city. Come see me. Is this a reference to you Andrew? No, that's a reference to your show reference to my show. I mean it fits. Where are you one of those before? Yeah. On with you not with me. Hope not you've been an intern. Yeah. I think everyone has no. We have a gentleman right here in the witness box went, right? This is we do to kill a Mockingbird say differed action here very easily. Or or four angry men? Don't do four Dame. Angry men. Do I one don't go. That's what you get good people participate in a good way. Get a Donut. To hear that. He really thought it was going to give the. Heckler kate. Ward for yelling out as I am doing. Yeah. Out. Love it. Take you to the Tacoma comedy club. Yeah. All you guys. Thank you for showing up every time and one more time for I guess, Justin Robinson address pollen Glazer. He likes to get out of here early. To beat beat the traffic. As always the Lakers are shit. And this was just weird timing. Andrew the former intern is a shit. Dealing. Room.

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145: 25th Anniversary of Clueless

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145: 25th Anniversary of Clueless

"Pro. What's up everybody welcome to real chronicles brought to you by real talking dot com I'm your host, Jan I. Bet you are expecting to hear David who's here joining me today along with meg the ghee. A really exciting episode. I'm excited. Super excited. You know we're GONNA talk about. I mean I kinda denotes I i. kind of have an inkling. I didn't do any homework tips. That's why I'm not hosting what? David. So, this week we're celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of clueless. How exciting I feel really old. Yeah. None of us look like Paul wrote unfortunate. Now, we have not aged as well as Paul Rudd has aged No has except for Jaylo but nobody has asked as well as Jealous Jesse outlier moments and I'll still take Paul wrote over Jaylo. Oh. I mean David. You have to watch out you're outnumbered today you are outnumbered my just like someone with really great acting talent and that's not Jaylo Ooh I. Love a good jailer movie I think we need an episode just dedicated to Jaylo movies and that's That's not the one on. We'll have that girls episode definitely should be. So we're missing someone Ryan. Ryan's not with us to doesn't believe in clueless he is. Okay. He doesn't believe in clueless. Ryan been making excuse after excuse all week about his skype, an Internet. Saying I don't know if my Internet's going to be working today, but I bet will working next week which actually what's our topic next week I have no idea. Yet. Well you'll have to keep listening to find out. So just to kick it off talk about two really important news items. The first is courtney. Cox is returning as gale weathers in the scream reboot. So this is the spyglass media review. Her Ex David Arquette will be back as Dewey Riley. And who is this being directed by David? Dono is directing this well I I. Don't think I'm really familiar with his work before that per se but matt, Benton Ellie Open and tyler. Gillet. They're part of the filmmaking group Radio Silence. So they did ready or not and VHS. Oh I don't really I think ready or not ready. So I'm on the opposite I like it I think Johnny and I walked into the hyper already. So we were like Oh. This should be really really great and it's really solid. I did like I didn't love it. You know what I, what like house movie like that. I really like. Meg Have you seen your next? No you know I was thinking of the one with Britney. Brittany snow. No, it's that would be would you ever or something? It's not haven't seen it similar to the style to comedy, but it's a hard are. Other thing. So it's R-. It's really really good I actually really like it. It's but I guess the reason that once stood out for me a little bit is because it wasn't I didn't expect it. So that's probably why but ready or not good. So. Guys doing need another screen movie. No. I know before west side he said, he wanted to do it only if the script was a solid as the original. I feel if West's is not directing, it should not happen and the fact that West is passed away. English should just let let it die. Yeah. Because I know I know this is going to do I. Think this is going to be similar to how creed brought back the rocky franchise how? Force Awakens brought back star. Wars I. Think the goal of this movie was is to create a spin off franchise with other characters outside of the the ones we know that's Kinda where I'm where I'm thinking this is going kind of ghostbusters is going to do next year we'll be courtney and David or coming back I. Feel like they're they have to be the main to write like maybe She's off trying to figure out another one. Another murder for goes face will this even be like at the beginning because I don't I haven't really heard too many plot details on this right? Have you guys know they haven't really released anything? Honestly I didn't even know it was going to be reboot. I just thought it was going to be another sequel. No, it is a sequel it is. What I'm thinking is what's going to happen is I think they're going to have all these characters in and there's going to bring in a new group of characters and it successful. We're going to have a spin off reboot kind of thing, the way creed was that. Everyone takes a backseat and they're not the leads anymore. That's kind of where I think it's going kind of like what they tried to do with four. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But I mean I just hope they bring hate impedance here back. That's all I'm saying. Because we never know she truly died. Who is a killer for? Emma. Roberts. Ryan. You're right. You're right. You're right I. Forgot about that her cousin to twist but we all know nobody no death. That's true. That is true. I do did you see the TV show? Meg. I watched the pilot that was up okay. The same boat it's It's crazy how a mass makes a big difference to me I. Think the fact that if something go go straight smash really. Doesn't feel like scream. So. That's kind of why I stopped at the pilot. Throws you off. Yes. I'm willing to give it another shot though. Be Interesting to see what comes next I. Mean They rebooted Halloween obviously. For how did I bring up all these routes and nothing about Halloween? And, we're so excited about it. So maybe. There's only two more Halloween's, and then that's it. Yeah because I until the next. Ten of Halloween without Jamie Lee. I, think they did it. They did the best. They could do that with four, five and six. I I. I'd like that middle because I look at Halloween at as we'll talk about in the next few months as like three four different continuities. And four or five and six stuff with Daniel Harris I do like. So, we'll get more into that in October but go ahead. John. So the next. Are is the emmy nominations. So they came out they came out on Tuesday. I think there were a lot of surprises and definitely a lot more diversity. I was really happy first of all to see Shits Creek get some recognition. Love Final Season I. One of my quarantine watches was insecure some really happy that the team over there got some recognition to use array We actually just got apple TV like two weeks ago it would have been just the morning show and I'm really happy to see everyone there got recognition especially. Jennifer. Aniston who was really really good in this role. And then last but not least watchmen who led all of the shows with twenty six nominations including a well-deserved NAM for Regina. King. The most the most nominations for a limited series ever I believe it's a second most nominations of all time at the EMMYS with game of thrones having thirty two and then now A watchman having twenty six or twenty, eight, twenty, six. Okay. So it's third most. I. Think Emily Nypd Blue. Twenty eight Ella Yeah I believe that. Yeah. For this this one right now it's twenty six. So also another record broke net flicks beat HBO for the most. Nominations with one hundred, sixty HBO had the record last year this year only garnered one, hundred seven. Followed by NBC WITH FORTY-SEVEN ABC Thirty Six fx thirty, three, Prime Video Thirty and Hulu Twenty six where CBS over here CBS and twenty, three at Disney plus got. Nineteen. Got, eighteen. Pretty cool. I mean I feel like we've we've definitely have gone and we've seen this trend going streaming networks really getting in there and you know toppling the cable giants per Se So I think it's I think it's really interesting to see if Netflix's keeps a record for next year. who are you guys excited about for the nominations? So watchmen. With, the twenty six, some acting NAM's I didn't think it was going to get I love that they got. A Jean Smart in in supporting actress Jeremy, Irons and actor Regina going to be tough I think she's going to win but. Cate Blanchett's right there. So who knows if they'll want to give her? The enemy to get closer to an e got. So we'll see what happens there Yeah. I I've talked about how I feel about that show I think it's the best superhero season show of all time. It's it's just so poignant with everything going on now. And we're in the fact that we're not getting another season and so beautifully I think it's perfect. The mandatory in getting fifteen was the other one I'm. Happy that they're they're appreciating how great the show is and the future the of the Disney plus is very bright that the fact that they've been around for less than a year and they already have nineteen nominations I think that's says a lot they have more. They have close to more than CBS, and some of the network social future is bright for them, and then some snubs that. Surprise me Bob Odenkirk now getting. Better call. Saul. And I'm trying to think. Not I I wouldn't consider. It's not for me because I haven't seen the show but apparently ozark. There is a supporting player who was in I, believe the punisher. I think he's pleased Jigsaw. The punisher. I'll okay and he wasn't Ozark and apparently people thought he was going to win and he was completely snubbed and yeah, that's all. That's all I have. What about you make? I don't really have anything for snubs. I'm just really soak that Shit Creek and good place finally got some recognition. Yeah. Especially because they both closed out there shows this year. However, I do have kind of an issue like I mean I'm happy that like a lot of netflix shows. HBO. Show is not nominated but some of these smaller shows like you know like Shits Creek or anything like CBS or NBC anything that they kind of don't really hold as of a candle to the like Netflix and Hbo Shows Lake Take a what's that one show Miss Mazel for example, they kinda sweep like. Sweet Thir-. They can't get all the win. So I kinda feel like these other shows and actors don't exactly so. Stand a chance. That's kind of my concern I think the Emmys love to give shows leaving. Awards so I feel good for shits, Creek winning comedy and. Actor. I think actors a given for him for Eugene I think it was Shits Creek to is that it didn't really pick up until I feel like the following got bigger when it got into lake when Netflix's picked it up to show the past episodes that's really because really it's on. Canadian Television. So unless Here, and then pop TV has. You're able to watch it but not everybody has popped TV either so I think the big catalyst for them was Netflix. Picking them up and you getting to experience it in so good. Oh I haven't seen it. He got to watch I will have a few episodes of Gen and that's why feel. Everyone loves Eugene Levy Yeah. The stuff I've seen of him on that show is very good. So I can see that them giving him the coronation of winning actor in comedy. I will say I will say this before you go on I, think the EMMYS have way too many nominations per category and I think it takes away. It feels more like participation awards when you get to like six, seven, eight nominations for group rather than that's why and plus I think me being more of a film Guy TV I'm so used to the standard five, five, five, five for all the categories. When you get to the movies, you could get eight nine or ten or whatever, and that's fine. But like seeing it an acting categories, I'm just like, oh, man that that's a bit much. The only person or the only category I really feel like deserves the win. Catherine. O'Hara. Yeah she's great and. She's the one that I think is in most trouble for winning because of. Regina, no because that's not the. Browsing all. Yeah. Yeah, and I am Mazel Fan. So I I do. Really, love, the show, I love the character i. think they have been like, I. Okay. If they don't win this year because they have already won. So they've got the recognition like I'm okay with them being nominated. So I don't know I don't know we'll see mega mega disappointed me I thought you were gonNA say about snubs no talking debt you're going to see. They never get nominated for Saturday awards than anything else I'm surprised they don't get any tech awards like I know they'll never get drama or anything like that. But at least under the under the under. The the norm with Tech Awards. You'll only thing is like you know how we're saying that like emmys tend to give shows that are leaving. More recognition, there is kind of a downside to that because it could just be like, oh, well, we feel bad for you. You'll never get one for this role. So here you go. That's kind of you have to watch out for. Yeah that that's kind of like what I was saying if it if they love to give shows leaving love. So we'll see what happens there. For the Emmy so they'll actually be going virtual this year. It'll be really interesting to see how they do this So right after the nominations, a whole like statement came out there working on figuring out how they can film everyone in their house or whoever they want around them, their family members and then broadcasting I believe live on September twentieth. So it it'll definitely be it. Virtual ceremony will be interesting this year to see I think much like will we just had with San? Diego Comic Con it's definitely probably going be prerecorded definitely with enough. At it because I feel like there's too many things that could go wrong. I work in television. So I know for a fact that it is impossible to pull this off life. Yeah. It absolutely has to be prerecorded. That's good because you wouldn't want anyone. People that aren't GONNA win having cameras arouse just see them lose. Thinking probably to give the have a poor connection. Yeah that's true. The winner is Blah Blah? Blah, and they're like. Frozen with your mouth open like we're still on dial up, it's nine, hundred, ninety, nine year. While we're about to go back into the nineties we are I'm so excited. Twenty, five years and I'm still totally bugging over pretty much everything about this movie. So guys, it's time. We're GONNA talk about clueless. Now I'm ready. Are you ready? David? Is Your preteen girl? Likeness Ready. I'm so excited. I was eight when this came out and I think it was definitely one of the first films to make really sound impression on me not just the fashion in the movie but the vocabulary and I know I'm not the only one. I think probably win around the housing whatever or as if. A. Thousand Times a day I think Lewis is one of the best of nineteen, ninety five. I would say, maybe David Disagrees I think it also remains to be the smartest Hollywood adaptation of British literature because in is based off of Jane austen's Emma just really really smart coolest was released on July nineteenth nineteen ninety five. It's a definitive hit. I wouldn't say that I would say that. I mean it did it make a lot of money. So it's it's more of a it's gathered at following after truly. The best films are like that though yeah, I mean it's in terms of financial status. It's not really a well, it's not an adventure game no no just that just as of Nineteen ninety-five release, it's I don't consider it a hit. I mean it's made it. It made a lot of its money a you're going to get into it in terms of the. Everything after the merchandising. That's where I. Think it's made its money and VHS releases in you know it stayed true as a more than a cult film. It's was a phenomenon after the release I'm surprised when I saw the box office was so low. Yeah. So speaking of the money it grows more than fifty, six, million worldwide and I believe the budget was nineteen million clueless. So the film became a surprise sleeper hit of nineteen, ninety, five who's. In, sixteen hundred theaters gross ten, million on its opening weekend, and then it ended up grossing fifty six million becoming a thirty second highest grossing film of Nineteen Ninety Five. And to answer your question about nineteen ninety-five clueless. I took a quick look. clueless would be my number three of nineteen, ninety five. That would be your number three number. One is heat number two is before sunrise. So make tell us why clueless is your favorite movie of? All, time. Okay. So wouldn't they all time definitely in the top like twenty? So. I. Seven when this came out and kind of like what John was saying with, you know walking around the house saying whatever as if I probably pissed my mom off more times than I can count by saying whatever. but it just you know it was different. It was it was a movie I never really seen as a kid before lake all a movies I had seen always probably Disney or some sort of animation movie. So this was this was a whole new like opening the doors of a whole new genre me and I will say I correct me if I'm wrong Maga's this the first movie that. Pretty much put the word whatever on the stratosphere because I feel like that's I. Still say whatever today. I still say to this day, but I don't use the hand signals anymore I hope not. I. Hope I. Want to bring it back now people poor people would take it the wrong way if you give them a hand, the hand. I will say I remember because the first I saw the movie I obviously it's not a movie meant for me. I have. Older cousins and I stayed over their house a lot during the summer and they introduced it to me on Vhs s the first time I saw was like Oh this is actually pretty funny and it was after I saw Halloween the curse of Michael Myers. So I had already seen Paul Polaroid and I'll say, oh, it's the guy from Halloween. And then it just took off from there I mean I started saying whatever then and then you know I've been seeing it ever since I will say the as if to not last as long as I thought he would. I still say as a do you really. Like Keke. Context, I'd love to know this lay i. don't really have any examples that come to mind. Like when you're a monster if someone's like cutting you allow your like as if getaway for me. Yeah. I would say like if somebody if I'm having a conversation with someone and like if they don't say it as often but like if they say something that I don't agree with them like as if. You shut me up I didn't think anyone else's still says that word in twenty twenty and the movie had like a lot of a lot of memorable quotes. So I don't have any because I want let you and Jenny takeover all the co tears. So I'll give out Henry's back off the Jansa she can go through her quotes. So There were a lot of quotes. I really wanted to just like put the whole script in. So I'll give you my top five though my first one which I think is pretty awesome and I feel like it's very quintessential like. Shares Dad. Tells her date anything happens to my daughter I got a forty five and a shovel and I doubt anybody would miss you. So. Smart and he says it's a like with such like deadpan like my second one which I think is very Feminists. Dion goes to Murray Murray I. Have Asked you repeatedly not to call me woman my number three is searching for a boy in high school is as useless as searching for meeting in Pali shore movie. Maher is no meeting in a pauly shore movie though I do have a few favorites, my number four is no she's a full on monet painting. See from far away. It's okay but up close it's a big old mess and my number five. Is courtesy of amber during gym class. Stoger. My plastic surgeon doesn't want me doing any activity where balls fly at my nose and dion goes well, there goes your social life. Meg, what are your top five I actually have the balls to your face quote online too. I have share I am willing to put the end part of it. Any conclusion? May I remind you? It does not say ours repeat on the Statue of Liberty. This one is probably I didn't put these in any order just Kinda I. Love them all kind of. where it is share, he does dress better than I do would I bring to the relationship and Travis? Tardiness, is not something you do on your own many many people contributed to my tardiness. I really do think my parents were never giving me a ride to school the La city bus driver who took a chance on unknown kid and last but not least, the wonderful crew from McDonald's who spends hours making us egg mcmuffins without which might never be tardy such a great speech my last one With the homeys rolling with the quote Shit Song. You need to just do the hand with it like you can't say it without the hand Moshe Coolio was big and ninety, five Starting out. Where he sang that song yeah, it's polio. honoree like it. Yeah. So I think that was around the his like rise because I feel like dangerous minds what came out ninety seven so it wasn't too long after that or was it is ninety six yeah. So. Wasn't too far fetched. So this movie just has. I don't know I found the writing to be so smart. and. Really, every line was just classic. We were watching it yesterday and I just kept coating it and I know was driving David nuts because he's like really an and it's it just shows like how much I've seen the movie the fact that like there are very few movies that I can quote word for word. Like that and so and I just think I don't know and it's very different right? Like you understand things now as an adult watching it. Much differently than I did when I was e- I mean there was a lot of these things that definitely like went over my head like when she tells Mr Hall I'm surfing the Crimson wave ahead to haul ass to ladies like I didn't get that at eight I have my period yet so like Yeah like it just like different different little things like. For the longest time I thought the game suck it suck and blow with. Second. And I was like we what an elect this makes sense they're sucking and blowing right now. So Okay and I had a lot of the merchandiser this movie. So I don't know about you but I had a few paperback books. I had a dear diary like `electronic organizer that type clam shell one. Tiger electronics came out. Tiger electronics had a lot of their stuff same between the watches and the. The black and white like video games that I had like a beauty in the beast version of. But clueless I had the tiger organizer. I had the CD ROM game and then I had the hands free phone has like this little earpiece and two have yet to dedicated buttons whatever as if I still have the phone somewhere. It's still works, but I don't have a landline to use it so. Come over I've never used landline before we could test it. I'll just have to like keep pressing the buttons but I always thought that was really did you have any merch? I had the odd hands free headset. And what I loved about it is that it had the the iconic sound effects were like as if whatever Audi but I thought was really cool I never got to try this as a kid because we only had one line You could. There's like an eavesdrop setting where somebody was listening in. It would kind of like notify you. I never got to try that out and I'm really bummed you right I totally forgot about that and I actually I didn't have anyone it i. only had the one line too. So I guess I never really do it They ripped us off for that. I'm trying to think that's the only merchandise I really remember from the movie. I had a couple of the books, but that was from the television series. Still. Same Franchise. So that was actually my next topic was the TV series did you watch it? Did you love it as kid religiously I mean? As a as I was eight when that came out, it came out a year after the moving as a kid I loved it. But now thinking back to it, it was just. Is Lackluster it just felt like a second rate attempt to cash in on the franchise and. I'd like Rachel Blanchard but nobody could compare relief and some of the replacements like for Josh and Mel they were just cheap like. Work Yeah I watch. So I watch the COOLEST TV show too. I. Mean I can't. I don't think it would show that I would definitely watch now as fondly as do some of my other shows like family matters step by step like I don't think I would have that seem affinity for to watch it. Now I don't think I could really stand it much in the same but I do watch TV show because I love the movie I was a little disappointed that Alicia didn't come back for the show but I totally get it. I mean she skyrocketed after this. So. She wasn't going to TV I was happy enough that they did have a big returning cast with like Stacey Dash Donald Phase on at least Donovan they came back. I totally agree the replacements for the dad and for Josh were not the same but again, Paul Rudd. Kinda. took off a little bit after this to. where he really just wanted to focus on a film career. So he wasn't to come back for this show either but little known fact. The movie was actually supposed to be a TV show for Fox. But they passed and then it ended up getting picked up by paramount film, and then this TV series came out. So this one actually started in nineteen, ninety, six on ABC ABC canceled it, and it went over to, UPN. I don't think UPN exist anymore, right? No. Aware of and was not like Maya nine or something. Yeah and they went over there now for two seasons So after the show was actually cancelled by ABC, you've got a lot of reruns during our favorite Friday night. T.G.I.F. And that actually became the ratings winner for them but by then it was too late for ABC to get the series back and they tried to prevent UPN from broadcasting it until their contract ran out in late September coolest ended up finishing number forty six in the ratings with thirteen point three million viewers only Sabrina, the teenage witch had higher ratings Friday. And Actually Sabrina Melissa Joan Hart herself was originally considered for the part of share on the TV series. Yes. I remember hearing that you canceled it after the third season because of sharply declining viewership, and then by then the show had only retained thirty percent of its original ninety-six viewing audience but I think for me while the TV show. Does it. You know is not something that I would immediately gravity to like when I think of Louis I think the movie and then I think the music Nice. Little. Over with that, I like that. So the music just did such a terrific job. It's one of my favorite movie soundtracks. There's music in the movie that isn't featured necessarily on the soundtrack. But. They're all classics the music supervisor who did it Karen? Rochman did a terrific job. She's actually known for all of her other movie soundtracks like pulp? Fiction Moulin. Rouge bites she actually has produced albums have sold over seventy five million copies worldwide. Wow. So I will say that my top three favorite songs off of this soundtrack or kids in to shake some action when she starts gearing up for the Pismo, Beach Disaster Relief and Supermodel, which is a great. Model Great Song during the makeover seen. The definitely cut it a little short in part that I would say does not age the best will get to that part soon enough. Did you have favorite song neely when that really came to mind like when I thought of this movie? I. Didn't want to go with ones that like I heard in the movie i. I kind of just thought of the movie in the first on that came to mind is the one I went with in what was kids in America, which we all know that by the muffs, which was a cover and I didn't know this at the time, but it was actually their most successful cover and unfortunately they couldn't really get any royalties for. It and to the point that apart from recording it for the soundtrack, they've never fully played the song ever again only snippets allow it's interesting like they would rather live shows need they play piece of it but I think they're are just afraid to play the whole song. Yeah. but I mean it it was very, very excellent choice because obviously these are teenagers. you know living in America. And a certain quote that Kinda. Resonates more with it. Looking at a dirty old window down below the cars in the city go rushing by I sit here alone and I wonder why share so used to living the life she's accustomed to but you know you see here a daydream trail off so you know looking out. Sitting here alone and I wonder why and she starts growing as a person like with helping tie playing matchmaker. So she kinda like evolves if if that makes sense at all now it does and I mean she I think her transition from the beginning of the movie to like the end of the movie. I I really enjoyed going on that that journey with her like you know she was sort of. Like one of the things I'll point out a little bit later you know in the beginning of the movie she sort of very is all about her her friends and then when she gets towards the end of the movie, she's very more self aware about her actions like I would say something would be like how mean she is to Travis in. The beginning like I feel bad because he's Travis as like I love him and he she just so mean and then she realizes when ties starts to be kind of mean to him that she's like second like is this high was acting and then you know she does a whole one eighty. So I think it's time to find out what awards the movie. One Done today down didn't win any. Kind, there are few war it would. I would say there's more acting awards than movie awards actually some of the different awards at let's say, Alicia Silverstone one, she won the American comedy awards for funniest actress in a motion picture in Nineteen ninety-six, she also won the Blockbuster Entertainment Award. For Favorite Female Newcomer won best female performance and most desirable female at the MTV movie. Award. Interesting I most desirable female I don't even remember that category I feel like the guy that category because like insanely sexist yeah. It definitely is but I feel like I read of the MTV movie awards is that even still a thing and you know what is looking the VM as which doesn't Why I have whole rant on that. So I'M GONNA keep my mouth shut? I think you and I can both share an array of all terrible. In TV, amy heckling was a nominee for a writers guild of America, award for best screenplay written Treasury went off the screen. She didn't only needed. She also got a nomination for best screenplay at the New York Film Critics Circle Award that year Stacey Dash Alicia Silverstone Brittany Murphy, and the movie were all nominated for a young artist award but did not win that year. I could see all of them getting nominative. Yeah. That's the trophy room. It's time to get into few facts meg do you WanNa go first. Yeah. I was thinking fun facts was trying to you know what's going on the typical websites for, but I actually found one on Google images, which I thought was very, very unique place to find one Brittany Murphy was being interviewed once about the movie, and while Tyson you're who can't drive in real life at the time Brittany was version who couldn't Dr Seuss folios awning ironic that she had to be the one to say it I thought this one was really cool. The the mugging scene where share goes this is Aurelia pronounce. it was actually based on a true story. Amy Heckling heard a story at a dinner party where a man's wife made him start wearing designer suits a man was being robbed once the that's man and he stood up and the Mugger said to get down on the ground and the man replied, but this is an Armani. While the man didn't like Armani suits. He was more afraid of his wife getting mad at him. For having a dirty suit. Then a man with a gun I do like that seen a lot though it was pretty funny. Install is iconic because this like you know shows like be scared about her life meanwhile she's afraid of dirtying up her dress and if that Robert new was good for you just take in her jacket and he would have probably got more money than he different a cell phone that he bought got from her Oh absolutely thousand percents. the only other factor. I really worked down. Thought was really cool some of shares wardrobe actually came from thrift stores. Mona. May the costume designer said share had sixty three Alpha changes and the only two hundred thousand dollar budget for the entire movie for everyone. So she went to high end shops, thrift stores and even created some of the pieces herself because there wasn't like some of the office they wanNA share to wear nobody had ever created a anything like that before. So she had just come up with on the fly. Was it for me. I have a few a few more facts. So like I said before clueless was already pitched as a was originally pitched as a Fox TV series called no worries Fox past paramount picked it up and actually amy heckling in an interview had kind of talked about the whole pitching process to Fox. Originally, they wanted her to do something about teenagers and if you know amy, how curling's work she did fast times at Ridgemont, high. So. By this point, she was so tired about doing stuff about teenagers. But. They really really wanted her to do it but they wanted her to do it with a twist about the in crowd. So she's like well, I'll do it if I could make it fun. If I can get a chance to make fun of them and then she started to sort of framework it up against Emma and then when she showed it to someone. To one of her agents she they said, this is way too good This is too good for TV you should make this into a feature. So from there after shopping it around while paramount, picked it up, and originally for the Fox show, they wanted her to take out a lot of the stuff with Josh because eating want share let's say having sex with her stepbrother. Who and when the film was picked up by paramount Scott in producer. told her it all back into the script and I mean. What if we didn't have josh that's kind of crazy. Sarah Michelle Gellar. was originally offered the role of share. Horowitz but she had to pass because she was She had scheduling conflicts with all my children and reese. Witherspoon was actually also considered for the role of share but I couldn't I would not be able to picture reese. Now she's L. Yeah. And Lauren Hill and terrence Howard originally auditioned for the roles of Dion and Murray. Yes Can't see that avenue either. No Way. So. Actually. So do you guys know how Alicia actually got the role of share? Yeah from the aerosmith video. Yup. So she was featured in the aerosmith crying video and amy, heckling, told the studio is that girl and she didn't even have to audition for she didn't she did not have to Paul Rudd also didn't get the movie at first he thought it was just another dumb routine comedy but he decided to still audition for every male role in the film including Murray and this was this is before he realized that the character was meant to be black I did remember hearing that such a poor thing. According to the casting director Christian played by Justin Walker was the hardest podcast because actors did a WanNa read for a gay character. So taboo at the time yet, but I feel like now wouldn't anyone would read. Oh Yeah do you guys know who the oldest cast member was? Yes it was a stacey dash wasn't it Yup? She was twenty seven at the time with a six year old son. Night. Crazy. Alicia Silverstone took inspiration from Maryland enroll and Lucille ball to play share. But she didn't think that totally translated on screen. nope I don't think it really did either not in the same way I think the comedy maybe a little bit but there wasn't so much physical comedy in the same way and the Marilyn Monroe I can only really see just her being the popular girl shares mispronunciation of Haitian in the debate seen wasn't scripted a silverstone really didn't know how to say the word heckling decided to leave the mistake in the movie. I think it worked out better actually a thousand percent. So something that I talked about early on was just the vocabulary of the movie anything how much impacted in how? Not long after the movie big fans were just like talking the same way. So many of the terms in the movie including Betty and Baldwin were invented by feeling the studio also released a booklet of terminology called how to speak clueless -ly to help promote the film. Actually don't have that book, but I wouldn't mind going on Ebay search now to find it I'm actually might be on Ebay right now. At the high school in the film was named after Bronson. alcott an early proponent of feminism and Vegan diets and father of little women author. Louisa May alcott interesting. So you mentioned all the costumes before for Mona May. This is actually her first film she went to she went on to do the costumes for Romi Michele's high school reunion, the wedding singer and never been kissed and when I read this fact I was like I can totally see it there's definitely a lot I mean especially for Romeo Michele's high school I was just GonNa say that there's definitely a lot of share clueless. Dial here and the whole thrift store I'm sure she did a very similar thing here to keep the budget low. And David actually just saw that movie not too long ago. It was pretty it was pretty good I like rewarding thought I would I. I don't on Paul Rudd. Wears. A k. you baseball cap in a few scenes to his Alma Mater, the University of Kansas. Last fact that I have is an unexpected result of the film was at some viewers were so inspired to seek alcohol and Drug Treatment Because Travis entered his twelve step program in the movie Wow. I. Didn't know. It's pretty cool. There was little clue actually just totally forgot about I, love when directors make cameos in their movies. Amy Heckling make made a cameo as misguided maid of honor at the wedding. And they're actually best friends in real life, right? Yeah. From what I read. Yeah. Do you want to do you know one of the first directors to make a cameo make cameos in all his movies was I wanna say Orson Welles or Alfred Hitchcock for Hitchcock, very good. Now it's time guys we get to talk about what age the best and the worst of I'm ready. David. Do you WanNa tell us I already here? So Age Bess I put Jeans below the boxers because. People still do that. I never thought of that for. Josh's vast knowledge of The Sun Valley when chair calls him to pick him. Up. He doesn't ask for the hell she is. She just said Sun. Valley. He knew exactly where to get her. Female power suits that sage well because that's. A big thing now, and then Paul wrote as beautifully just just beautifully. And then Mentos the fresh maker Jingle. And that's all I have for each meg I actually had Paul Rudd on my list to. SEE THIS IS WHY WE'RE TWINS I actually put shares iconic yellow plaid unsolvable. Yeah. That's because like iggy Azalea. reward or version of it in her fancy music music video and even when Alicia was on lip sync battle she wore too. So I mean it's kind of proof that it the outfit stands is has time and one of the things I think about when I think of clueless is that outfit? That is true. I agree I think I. Mean. It even made an you have it in I just came in yesterday for me. The steel book is for Yellow Suit I was GONNA say that too. Yeah. That's all I have for what H. Best for me Jen. So for me just all the smart jokes. I think the whole script is consistently funny. Mel Dan Hideo is hilarious as father and he's always yelling. Share. Cell phone purse, which I think is a big lake precursor to what we have now like those little mini purses that you can carry around with a chain All the memorable quotes I think all the high school cliques that they go through when she's explaining it to tie has aged the best because they feel like you still have very similar clicks in every high school. Now, the whole makeover scene I think though it could be seen as a little. It's just a fun scene. It's a fun scene they get to make her over girls love to dress up the whole movie just put the whole movie for me. Already. So h worse for me I have windows ninety five. Oh that I I hated when those ninety five. Dion outfits I hated all her out outfits. They all were terrible including her hats. Yeah. Really bad. Ask. Stacey Dashes, political views. That's not age well ooh beepers nineteen ninety-five cellphones the grunge-look aged terribly. Buns of steel videos. That's not even well. Paper maps. Elton's attempted rape. payphones being love struck after zero dates like tie was for Elton. And record stores R.I.P R.I.P and that's all I have what about you make? I put the quote your virgin who can't drive. Because that is just that's probably the one thing I hated the most about this movie because I mean what's the matter about you know somebody's virgin can't drive? That's just attacking their character the piss between. Share. Josh. That was just that that I think that was the most while hated the other quote the most that part are that scene was Kinda a little too risque for me. All right. Go ahead. So the first one for me was when she goes I feel such a retard quote that did not age well at all Elton sexually harassing her in the car he just doesn't get the answer. No, and then he just leaves her there Paul Rudd when he first introduced in the movie and he sort of He's in the fridge and then he turns around and she's there and then he of like goes to grab her stomach and he's like, Oh, you're really filling out there. Not Create. supermodel song you don't hear the whole song but when you really listen to it on the soundtrack, the whole part where she breaks into like she's not gonna eat today she's not gonNa eat tomorrow that doesn't age well. For me, it was just a pet peeve Paul. Rudd was always eating and leaving food out like he was just leaving out everywhere. You know he goes to make a Turkey Sandwich. He just leaves it. He goes grabs the orange juice. He just leaves it on the dining room table like he just you know what else? Oh, when Murray, when they're driving and they're talking about Christian and she's saying why won't he? Why doesn't he like me or whatever, and then he goes are you bitches blind or something? You're man Christian is a cake boy. and. He's Disco Dancing Oscar Wilde reading streisand ticket holding friend of DOROTHY. Know what I'm saying so that that didn't H. so well for me go into tower records the same thing with the record store and the whole thing how share is just like, oh, well I. Don't you know when she's looking for her collarless Fred Segal shirt and she asked Lucian she's like why don't you talk to Jose about and she's like Lucy you know I don't speak Mexican I am not. Mexican. And then you know Josh candidly points out to her that she's from El Salvador and that share would feel the same way of people thought she live below sunset. So when I got for worse so Ryan texted me and he wanted everyone to know that he did his homework despite now being on the podcast so he has an h best and HR SUE So his age best was Paul. Rudd I think everyone agrees He enjoyed the debates. Presentations using popularity for good. Travis. Think he'd be the only one that says Travis here I think and then Brittany. Murphy. Age Worse use of the term woman. Shares hate against accents dumb blonde role stepbrother stepsister. Romance. Okay actually. Don't mind the romance in a way because they really didn't grow up together like they weren't like little kids and then growing up I, feel like because it was like. A short marriage and he was briefly there I kinda give it a pass. It's not like game of thrones. Yeah. That would be wrong. Yeah. That's different. So I kinda give it a pass probably because it's also Paul Rudd next up is our. That Guy Award. Meg You WANNA kick that off my three. Story. Oh. Yeah. have Lisa Donovan who was amber I now know her from Sabrina the teenage witch. We what the show the show she knew show or? They, show the let's join heartburn. God. I. Don't remember on that. It was like when she was around like the college years she roomed with her and slowly move Ri- oh. Wow I've Jeremy Sisto Who was in wrong turn suburban Tori and the show one of my favorite shows. FBI. Okay. and. The most iconic one. Wallace Shawn. Voices my favorite Disney, character of all time rex. I. pry So we don't have. We don't share any of the ones I thought we would. Because I actually I only have one, but I actually went with Stacey Dash. Because anything I. saw her after, which is not much I'm like, oh, it's Dionne from. clueless actually saw her and I forgot about this until recently I was watching freshman to belair episodes on Hbo Max and she's on it. And I, Oh, shit it's dion so. Career. Yeah. We have very yeah. Let's let's get. Let's not get go there but yes she if you WANNA call when she has a career yes, I will I will call that a career. So I'll I'll kick off the next one. Do you have John Sell my that guy goes to see dash also because for me like she's Dion and Mike nothing else and then the only other time I really saw her in anything else really after that was Connie video for all falls down and then that was like about it and then obviously current resurgents on Fox News. Resurgence don't forget sharp NATO. Use a shark NATO she was in and actually I'm looking it up I forget which one shark NATO whereas it does the shark eat her that's what I wanted to. Oh thousand percent. That's wonderful. Why WanNa say it was sharp needle four. I think so many so many. Yeah was deaf she played she played the Mare. Okay and you know she was Kinda just saying. Everybody was running around running away from the sharks and she's like, no, there's nothing wrong nothing wrong and then. Pitino know. Next up the six, the film best supporting player I went with. So my heart says, Paul Reid he's just doesn't really do enough in the movie to give it to him. So I won't Brittany Murphy. What about you make dion for supporting player okay. She's just the writer side cake and I almost gave Lawrence who has Murray's writer Dai to the fact that like he actually shaved his head. But I gotta go I gotTa go Dionne John So my supporting players Brittany. Murphy. 'cause they. She plays like I actually thought about dion for this too. But then I was like pretty Murphy serves like a major point for share to really like grow as a whole because it really all starts when she wants to take her on a project and and do the makeover and she sort of like improves from there. So and Brittany Murphy I feel like she did get to have. A few more movies that she did after after this and she just was good for what everything that she was given the movie and I will always think of Britain Murph like I always think of coolest and always think about Brittany Murphy. Agreed. Next up pecu- Shea icebox award who won the movie who was the MVP movie. Jen. Silverstone I. Think we all have the same ones here. I Have Alicia and Brechin and bracken. Okay. So for me at leash I mean I feel like without without her and her delivery and just her overall appeal and just everything they're like it's just you know after this movie I always tried to watch any of her other movies soul. Yes. That did include Batman and Robin. And then I also have a favorite movie of hers with Benicio. Del Toro which is excess baggage which I think he might in ninety seven. So wasn't too long after this. And then after that, you know she really took a break because she didn't have to too much But for this like this, she will always be my share agreed and then for Brechin why did you I mean I I'll admit I haven't really seen enough of Birkenstock. clueless. But he just he just played the Skater Guy Roll like flawlessly like I. Yeah I. Think of a Skater Guy I think of Travis. In fact Brechin was actually. In the Garfield movie. Yes. I do know that I just never saw it. Neither. Of I was GONNA. Apologize Feed it's no no no no. I. I. I knew that for Shriller that's not what I wanted to see So I want you to cheese electric in this everything about her in this is. Fantastic her time her comedic timing is great and she serious when she needs to be everything about her is fantastic in this movie last last award peak and valley out kick it off I was going to go with my peak I was going to go with Alicia Silverstone. And then I remembered that she did Obama Robin and that whole special place in my heart, and it's just a wonderful piece of cinema. So No, I WANNA Stacey. Dash 'cause she do shit after this and outside of having a really shitty opinion. So I won't see cash what about you meg. Peak state. I mean Stacey Dash. We can all agree on that just a walker who is Christian And Sean Holland who played Lawrence Oh yeah. I was on the show I think or something like that. I don't think I think maybe he wasn't the show now I can't I think he came back for the show but he was he played a character named Sean yet he did but they changed his last name on the show I remember. Raping different I don't know why. But I guess they wanted something different. my peak is Justin Walker Christian because I never saw him again. Never anything else and I actually think he only did a few more projects and then what did you say day he became a fantasy football. Now he runs a gambling like a now like draftkings of thing, but like just a sports gambling outlet so I'm sure he's making a lot of money with that since it's all legal now and valley for me I went with. Paul Right, I mean. Dusters to no one else. But Polaroid here my God you not I didn't even have my on my list. How really yeah. Who else would it be well? I totally bypassed it. Yeah. Paul Rudd then who did you have before? Well, I had sort of like A. Scurry if thing because they had all different things like donald stays on, went on to do scrubs and watch I, really like Joan and I watched him their united love seeing that Meyer, he's done stuff. He's done a lot of TV to that I've watched especially like teaming up with Mark Paul Guzzler for Franklin and Bash Bash Franklin Bash, and so I really liked him there Jeremy Sisto like I loved him on Burger. Tori. And six feet under Brittany. Murphy obviously had her movie career but yeah, Paul Rudd Poverty was the only one that I didn't put on here but yeah Paul Rudd is my valley. He's. Doing big things now and looking beautiful while doing it. Yeah. And that's all the award I've yet. That's all I got. I didn't say my valley didn't go ahead I thought. I thought it was just Paul Rudd Megan. We just all agreed. It was Paul Reid Wow. I quit smoking. I mean I. Did Paul Right Up? Donald stays on Jeremy, Sisto and Alicia Silverstone. So I don't know I really don't think at least you did that much after it wasn't so much like it was iconic roles after that because I mean Sh. clueless is her most iconic role, but she had a steady career afterwards and that's why listed her because. Wanted to this day. Yet her most recent is a the babysitters club. On netflix came out. Have you guys seen that I haven't seen it yet watched it yet. That's how you know you feel old because she's the mom. And same with valley girl. That's crazy time flies when you're having fun twenty, five years later this movie still one of the most popular films of all time I think it's really held true as a standard for many many many people and I think you can look back at it twenty five years from now and I think it's still have the same impact because I think it's one of those movies that'll be handed down from generation to generation at least that's what I think least. That's my plan. Is You know I'm showing us to our kids. A right so that pretty much wraps it up. We'll be back next week with some topic that I'm thinking of right now that I think will make you guys very very happy until then see at the movies kids.

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Happy Feet with Caitlin Durante

Blank Check with Griffin & David

1:57:40 hr | 4 months ago

Happy Feet with Caitlin Durante

"Right right and you don't know what to say on the show with a hot podcast. It cannot truly be penguin. Can we did she right? Great Perfect thank you for that. You gotTa Find Your Heart podcast. Sure okay that's the only way you're connections in this world podcast. I don't know I was given a competitor. I guess I shouldn't. I was struggling to find a quote because Most of the best quotes in this movie are TAP TAP. Tap TAP this. I'm seeing written by Tom. Stoppard known ridden four people did on this one and another George Miller where he is like. I spent twenty years writing this film. Okay George he cleans. He was making the second mad. Max and guide bar was like I saw that Mad Max movie. You gotta go to an article right winter way. Talk about yeah. He truly claims. That's the genesis of the mood. He's been twenty years. I was waste languages and then after a while he was like these penguins that overfishing we gotta talk about it right like initially just penguins and then we'll get into hall. He says that he didn't add the environmental elements until they hit started. Animated part of the original there was originally was just dancing with talk talk. Thank you so much for giving me space this. This script had to be a first draft like it is a mess does. That's four credited. Writers think but I truly believe he spent twenty years I don't know much of that. Was Writing Animation takes so long and it was four years in production. I don't know this. Is this weird thing like the mad. Max Movies are like this is insane. I don't know how one person thinks of this but somehow it all feels like it makes sense and this is the opposite where you're just like. How do you end up with these ideas? How do these ideas end up in the same box? It's four writers. I feel like each one wrote a different screenplay and then they mash them up in percents their credited as a unit or his opposite. No an percent is your together. It's Miller Okay and written out is it's Miller John Collie of course the writer of Mastering Commander Commander Writer of that. Of Course Judy. Morris who worked on babe pig in the city and some guy called. Warren Coleman whose only other writing credit is some sort of Australian TV show called drop dead weird well contained. Sounds drafted weird. I just want to say that most of the this is maybe the longest I to be quotes page. I've ever seen for movie. I was saying this right before you start recording. Because most of the quotes are people transcribing the entire song. Oh we like song. The songs that we kiss by Prince Weird later littlest thing aside and audience from other songs. Let's talk about baby. We gotta talk about eggs. I think we just gotTa go straight into talking about baby. This is a podcast called blank. Check with David Griffin. I'm David filmography. Directors have massive success early on their careers and they're giving a series of checks. Whatever crazy passion products they want. Sometimes those chicks clear and sometimes they tap dance baby and this is a macer is on films of George Miller. Yes it is called mad fury cast of course and today. We're talking about happy feet. Which is a fascinating artifact. Because it is a movie that feels like it should be a bounce that this is a blank check. He should not have been given what you decide to out of nowhere. Make cartoon which you've never made before and it's about penguins feels like this movie to anyone in a way. That doesn't sound like a dream. You had a hamburger for a twenty page kids book. I know that sounds the same things but that some of the penguins sing and some dance but dancing is kind of like this whole dogma aspect about but then it's also going to be over fishing. We dispense also a queer reading this movie in that. It's just over the wrong way down casting sure classic animated film your different be different. But you should be yourself watching scenes in the sort of Billy Elliot thing where the data can't reconcile the way your intimate radio you express your intimate is how we do this. This is a relationship is which is this this fucking insane movie which ends up being his biggest hit ever until until Mad Max. More than fury road. Unquestionably this thing. Usual fucking people forget. How huge this was at the time of its release. It was one of the ten highest grossing films at Warner Brothers had ever released. What and that list was. It did make two hundred million dollars domestic and you know one of the top grossing penguin movies the number one. I think it does have any competition. Marsha. The penguins serves the surf was coming right the next year. The march should just happen. Which are really march. It did I mean that's an alley. It was such a time for Penguin. That's crazy is you look at this film and you go. How did they know that they were going to make it out in the theaters at peak? Pango it's just like whenever they make it's just it in the air. Everyone's Kinda wants to talk about penguins. They just got so fucking lucky. Yeah this crazy movie. But it is the thing that arguably finally gives him the freedom to make Phiri wrote the wants and wins Oscar. It's his one academy award win. Gust everything about this. When he's crazy like he has one Oscar. You're like George Miller has an Oscar. Oh yeah he wanted director for mad. Max Ferry road the big the Oscars loved that one. No no no no. No Nest animated animated feature for Happy One. What animated feature film of the years? They're not a pixar movie. That's the things I bad. Pixar number I but you know because they will they? I mean I love Monsters Inc but they had snubbed. Monsters Inc that year picks the first year that Pixar lost? I'm saying it's the first bad picture. Sure it is the first pixar that is three nominees. Can you tell me the three nominees Well I mean cars have two thousand six another movie. I I kind of like pretty good movie. It's a pretty good animated movie. It was a monster house. Yeah yeah to one. That was that was pretty charming. Yeah I think happy feet had the you know. Big Name Director had made a lot of money had penguins. Everyone can agree on them. Critics weird loved it like it was. I liked it. It was a movie where like I think people critics were like. This is weirdly. Something we're getting behind seventy six percent on rotten tomatoes. Yes it's solid we liked. It wasn't like a favorite of the year but they liked it. Critics were into especially in relation to cars which felt like ours. Well I mean for the record cars to makes cars three. Look like talking about Kerr's one I know but I'm just saying you just saying that because he just it's the best of the three and there was this feeling. I think that it was like oh lassiter's overdue for an Oscar for being such a good man for being one of her great American men and he won the Golden Globe and it kind of felt like are they just going to give him the award even though cars like so Mesoamerica because he is the last major picture to not win an Oscar and then I think it was kind of like there was this groundswell of like. Let's not fucking give it to Kars. Let's give it to happy feet. Let's not default to lassiter needing to win an Oscar. Sure and history smiles upon decision. Sure is bad as good dinosaur though not meth. Not a good movie. Yes introduce our three-car Switzer our guest today from the Bechtel cast and the sledge. Podcasts CAITLYN Durante. Hello thanks for having me now. Originally 'cause we had your co host Amy Loftus on for dark shadows we were trying to have both of you on for the same episode and it was a thing where you are both in town for New York. Podcast show but only like four hours. There was Vermont flicked one of you was there before the show and one of you is there after the show and there was no time to do both at the same yeah. Do you feel like you got off easy skipping dark shadows or do you feel like that would have been an easier task than what went to be nowhere else in the world other than right now here talking about happy picked answer tapping gotTa talk about those they. Sad Penguins see my brother when he you know how when you're a kid sometimes you'll just sort of go all in on one thing. I liked trains as you know when I was a little kid. My brother when he was five was like penguins I Love Penguins. I know about all the kinds of penguins. Eight penguin toys like he was getting like zoo. Books Yeah you know. It was partly the Central Park. Zoo has really Nice Penguin area right so we would go there probably like you. Also that thing with kids were Kinda steamrolls where it's like the relatives here like Oh he likes penguins right. So let's just send some penguin shit his way Was He reading a lot of Puffins classics. I guess. That's not really. That's a different. That's I know. I corrected myself producer. Rachel keeping me on track so like I feel like I just had you know I knew about all the penguins. Yeah sure you like March of the penguins. I think congrats sort of a yeah. He would have been high school by not high. Swindon ended the penguins. Two thousand five two thousand five so he would have been late. High School era right extra made. It was the visit of lingering. Penguins remember those. Yeah did JOE EAT. This is my big question and stop me. If this too personal we did. Joe have that toy that was like the the ice mound all the penguins like walk around. Do you know what I'm talking about now. Not even a little bit. What you're talking about. And if you see we definitely had a life size inflatable. Emperor Penguin that like sat in our room table. So like you know how inflatable toys like. We'll slowly sort of and then you've got to blow him back up. And then the certain what howser and had like feet so could stand. It was just a fucking inflatable. Pinkett was very weird. In retrospect sit on it wasn't a chair. I that you could you could. I wouldn't be fun anyway. Sorry Penguins de Member. This kind of thing where it's like. There's like a little escalator in the payments. Go Up and then they all slide down. I do remember that. I may have had that producer Rachel. Validating Mareo world sixty four world with penguins. There's two different ones with Pinot where you go sliding and you race him down there. So that's fun. Who Penguins. They're fat. I think it's the fatness they're sort of rotund shape really kids really respond to move on interest rates but they can't fly their unique and they're not threatening birds different different. No legs no leg. Big Fee Long Flip Mosley and also. Let's say it differently. Classy gentleman because they all look like talks. You're a kid and you figure that out really shooting up the charts for you in the Animal Kingdom. This is fair. I'm just. I'm trying to crack code of like what is it about penguins. Don't make some makes them so popular. You're right I mean they are in Evergreen thing. I think there are type of animal. The kids get attracted to but they're not like cats or dogs that are like perennials penguin. Okay Cool Your House now. Yeah don't tell Caitlin she did you guys Caitlyn. I don't know where you're from western Pennsylvania so. I don't know if you had like a Penguin Zoo near you like I grew up near nothing. We go to the zoo. And there's the penguins and you go down in the Central Park so you go down into this sort of subterranean area and you can see them swimming but then also sometimes they're a little. You know the sue people would come and feed them fish That was always very exciting. Did you not do this weekend? Sukit went to the zoo. Couple of times say Ben Hasley went to visit. Yeah I've been to the zoo. Prettier Bam went to the field. You're doing doing this. I just need clarification. Benches are went to those on the first time the meal. Everyone's Yeah Benny I just it. Didn't it didn't grab my attention. Are financed film. Critic bought a ticket to the zoo. What I did like though when I was there guerrilla through feces a the window and I found that very funny commits a good bit with lassic style. Classic CHECKING FOR BEAT. Text message on my thing. I I just have one other question for you. What's up when you went to the zoo? Did they have that? You graduated to a series of fatal course a different producer. Ben Kenobi Kylo Ben. Ben Ben Say I only a dollar sign say anything DOT Bangladesh I'm sorry I don't even know what is team the fennel maker Each eat drink Ben. Hasley audit my neighbor. Ben Toro Beatles. Eight making my neighbour totoro one. What's the Demi the Truth About Benny? Yeah Yeah I don't know a Master Ben. Forget it yeah master Bandini in the flash any in the FLAB. It doesn't Danny and unloaded. Then love it. Okay love to do a pun on beloved. I detail are we have. We pulled out of that Tailspin. Times fucked up the entire great. I was not a big animal. We went to the zoo a lot but I was just never a kid who loved animals. Different types of kids and and most kids have one animal. They like the Animal I liked. The most was the pig and. I think I picked perversely because I never had to make contact with it. Sure it wasn't a thing where people could be like. Let's go to the zoo and see that pig you love. I could just be in the abstract. I love pigs the farm wilbur. Some pig gone. There is some picture. It's the best pig some. See that motherfucker Babe on topic. That's a good way talking about. I'll do how do you feel about babe? I Love Babe so so you know when we're when we're doing happy feet. George Miller been pretty dormant for a while but his last efforts had been in the babe franchise. Yeah the two Babes right to pig in the city more than based Affair Take Yeah Fair. Take Different Film. He finishes out his Mad Max Trilogy. He does Lorenzo's oil in which Avista right which are both trying different things which of Eastwick as him being like. I don't like the studio system if I'm making movies. I'm doing them on my own terms. I have my own company. I work with village. Roadshow most of films are distributed by Warner Brothers but he still always trying to retain some sense of autonomy and independence within the studio system. Just sort of using them as a distributor He produces the first babe babe blows up he goes. I don't feel like I'm getting enough credit for Babe Right. I was sort of shepherding. The whole thing no pun intended. Well DO GETS HIS SECOND. Oscar nomination his Oscar. Nominations are so weird because it's first nomination best screenplay for Lorenzo gotTA GOTTA get nominated as a producer best picture for Babe Jer. And then he's like okay. You thought that was good. Let Me Takeover Babe. Let me do babe pig in the city. People are like boo get off the stage Real ones recognize the screenplay NUMB FOR BABE. WanNa point out. Oh okay there. But he's a little bit in the wilderness after pig in the city because people were like this guy if you give them too much freedom he's GonNa go fucking nuts and so after pig in the city he's like I'm ready to return to Mad Max and he announces he's GonNa do Mad Max for. I think it was supposed to be called the wasteland at that point. Yes I think with Mel Gibson and it's very close to getting made in two thousand one in nine. Eleven happens and he gets kitchen backs off of it. Interesting and for years it's still like percolating and at some point. Mel is like having all his breakdowns. A little more an it becomes clear that he's probably not going to act in the movie ever. So it's still this thing of like he's going. Maybe I do animated. Do I said earlier. Like can I coke smell into coming back and he'll be doing interviews and people go like it's not an export ever. GonNa happen like it feels like this. Quixotic Quest Right. And he's like no no. It's definitely gonNA happen. It's definitely happen. We were GONNA film next year but then Namibia. The planes changed and I can't film in this environment like it was always just like weird interruptions coming in and in this period where he's continually talking to Warner Brothers about trying to make a fourth mad Max which they would like to do he goes. Can I show you this other thing I've had and he's like meeting with them in l. a? And he's like I've had this penguin script for like ten fifteen years that I've been like percolating on and he drops it at their desk and gets on his plane back to Australia and the story is that when he landed they were like. We'll make this tomorrow. That they read it within the time that he was on the plane that very long plane flight and they were like. Obviously this movie makes perfect sense to me. I wonder if that is a symptom of this period early. Two Thousands Post Pixar animations and a big boom and suddenly every studio is like we gotta get in on that. We've gotTA make animated films. And Warner Brothers does not have an animation division. They sort of like incubator because they had shut it down right. They briefly no like giant was with it right right so that was like that. Wave of every studio trying to copy Disney and do their like hand-drawn musicals and iron giants the final nail in the coffin for Warner Brothers animation and I think they feel too recently burned by that to try to start up a new. Cgi thing and like Fox. Bob Blue Sky DreamWorks had bought PDI which later became DreamWorks animation. Like all these other places were buying in demand than animation houses the way that Disney did with Pixar and were brothers was like I don't know what to do and suddenly a guy who ever relationship with drops the script on their desk and I think part of the pitch was there's this company animal logic that Special Effects House. They're based out of Australia and we can hire them to animate the whole movie. We don't have to build an animation studio. They essentially are an animation studio. But no one's ever asked them to animate an entire film before and so it's kind of like part and parcel. You don't have to develop an animation arm yours this thing and I think to exempt. They're probably like I don't know what fucking kids like. Expensive not like this was just like sure have have role of it. Don't you think to some degree they were like? All this shit's expensive talking cars. What the fuck it. What's the difference? Yeah you can sell people. I mean have you seen the animated again seen team Delgado or whatever like I'll take fliers animated movies because they're like share those things sell right kids him. And it's that thing that also happened when like Warner Brothers tried to be make getting into the DC interconnected universe where it's like we understand that there's a market for this thing but we also don't like it at all right. They're like I don't know. What are these fucking kids like you know like? What are these nerds like and like to some degree? They're sort of reluctantly making these things with disdain. Because they're like it's easy money in the bank and what they're not counting on his George Miller being a lunatic. Who's like this is my movie to say everything this right? This is my chance to try to like work like insane. Subjective camera movements into animated film. Cameras wildness moving because there is no cameras so we could do whatever he wants with it right. Did you see this when I came out Caliendo? I haven't seen until like three days ago. Well so you agreed to do this just as like that. Sounds like a weird movie. Yeah we gave you a list of like a couple of options and you're like happy few you totally didn't want to see one of the like original Trilogy Mad Max Movies. I've seen the mall. Not For me. Love Fury Road. But I'm so glad I said. Yes to this because what he is trying to say with happy feet are is exactly what he tries to say. And I think succeeds. It's saying in fury road. That's in a lot of ways because there's like this like religious aspect where like Morton Joe's you know. Has this whole you know he's a he's got this regime totalitarianism but like this ether. There's like dogmas. Movie is also about a demagogue sister controlling population. Alter the whole thing though. Is that like we ruined the world right process of ruining the world and in the same like environmental themes are very suddenly out of nowhere present and happy feet yes it is also this thing where like what is so powerful fury road. Is that all that stuff is in there. And it's almost never stated directly through dialogue and it's almost always just conveyed through the world building in the action and the dialogue is mostly like conversational and perfunctory and this is a children's mill. Movie has like every character explaining everything all the time. Yes that is true. But also this composites that penguins when they select their mate. Sing pop songs from like the eighties. Well everything but those are pop songs from the eighty it has to be a Moulin Rouge style. Penguins do boxy Roxanne and one of them is singing like big pimp in and they harmonized somewhere in the middle. Here's a question professor penguins I genuinely want to know and you got the laptop and apparently infinite well of Penguin facts. My brother had these like flash cards of every penguin species that he would like and he drilled you every night on this sleep on. Guess my question is I feel like emperor. Penguins are culturally. Sort of seen as the default pay specially when you when you get the name emperor sticking out there. Also they're the biggest penguins. I think thoroughly size. Well I feel like if you ask someone draw a penguin ninety nine out of one hundred will draw something that most closely resembles napper. Are they the most species or they just kind of? Have they become the default? The most populous penguin species is macaroni. Penguins eighteen million CARONI. What do they look like turnaround that share Christie? Well they're the ones who are overfishing. Not Humane Yourself. Macaroni eat macaroni. I hope they do they really should. That is crazy that they're the most popular I think of them as like. That's like an obscure Deep Cup Penguin. Penguin okay talk about representation in media. Why are emperors favored so much in media? This is what I was getting at our emperor. Penguins straight white man of the of the penguin world. Are they just taking up ninety percent of the film roles but they're not actually representing that much of the population and zero low on the list? I think because they have such an unusual breeding thing where they like it takes them a whole God damn ear and they got. It's just one egg and they got a march like it seems like Convoluted how but number one. Macaroni number two. The chinstrap who is a good boy. The ten droughts sure he's got little Chinstrap cuties number two who number two. I like them because it looks like their faces like peeking out like tertir daily Penguins Who kind of had just have those really crazy is. There's a rock hopper right. You know you got something called the the the penguins. Oh there I feel like those zoo has a lot of those sure right. That's cool one wouldn't things. They are also zoos. That's another message are bad. I E terrible so off. They're not terrible they truly well. They're working zoos. Who are trying to conserve. Educate and you know it's it's it's a responsibility that you can. You can take on well and good people. In the trump administration were there to the trump is trying his hardest. David Griffin listen. We all know that right now. I sound exactly the same as I have for this entire episode right. It's not like you've been talking straight for thirty hours. It's not like I just did some wild thirty our livestream because this is me in the exact same mode. I've been enduring this entire episode recorded in studio. There's no there's no reason I would need to do a thirty hour livestream because this episode was recorded with nothing was wrong with the world. And I'm saying that in the present tense. 'cause we just it's seamless. It's seamless for folks. Right seamless this is alive average reach at the time and I want to say something very important. Go ahead while you're listening to the beautiful tones of my entirely normal voice right now you might be saying. Hey I want to hear more of downtown Griffey News. Hey this this voice in my little eardrums I like I like the way it bounces off. I love listen to this voice And how normal? It sounds if only there were some fun moving pictures to go along with it but I don't WanNa see his face. Maybe you're one of those voice fans who hates my face your nice face. Get Out of here. I looked there. People folks at different stripes out there. Okay but this is the important news. I want to say the very personal ad read for me. David go ahead. 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Why not watching brave new world and now and now I'm just seamlessly GONNA go back into talking about happy. Feed in the exact voice. You've heard this entire episode. Okay so as we learn in various movies such as happy fees that just march of the penguins. They're focused on Emperor Penguins. So they're to me the feminist icons of the penguins. The female smells Gosh. They're like here Daddy. You take care of this. I've got work to do and stick this under your crotch absolutely wild not only just the mail. Pinches have to stand there but he cannot eat for two months which is a very strange way of doing business. Yeah she's like. I couldn't drink for nine months so that a sandwich Sushi so do other species of penguins do this or is it just the emperor's do we know a great question It felt like that's why March of the penguins was about them that it was such a unique phenomenon. Let's see but but but like also that movie was like what an interesting dynamic between these parents and how they have a trial production. Let's see egg. I'm Jim I'm trying to be. We should talk about Most penguins lay two eggs emperors and King Penguins. The other big boys. Only one okay. They like to really well. Italy won the newly another one. Okay have them like literally parallel? Let's see so it. Admit the the monogamous thing is pretty typical to all penguin which obviously unusual for animals to be monogamy. A penguin sick. A lot of bird species overall do more fun of that some of them might be like ethical nominee but like right right but like a lot of them. There's on forever. There's a reason we say the birds and the bees sample culture supposed to be it does seem like generally the whole. I think the emperor's have as you say the added marching aspect but the penguins is that only a lot of eggs. They do mate monogamously. And it's it's tough out there for a penguin you really gotta you know. Those eggs are precious. Because you're not like lay in ten thousand ex. Yeah it's tough yeah. Also they're not scared of humans because they don't really understand what humans are so if you go look at penguins they will like come up to you penguin so we like him there another key thing about emperor penguins when they have babies. They look different than what they're going to end up looking like which is typically off. Father Fluffy it's cute. I think it is fascinating that that Miller with like no animation Bri background raider but after babe some CGI expertise but was largely animatronic with sort of Auburn. He likes tech. He like he likes pushing boundaries but he goes into a new medium after the success of this he starts animation studio called Doctor. D We love. Which then I believe sharply Sean Media. Happy to right he was like. Oh Yeah I'M GONNA be your animation guy. I'm going to spearhead like all these animated films for you But this movie makes us incredibly bizarre choice to stylized the penguins less than ten percent. Okay Yeah Okay. Thank you very. I think this very talk about an animation right. There's no it's just like this weird uncanny Valley version of Penguin. It's the closest they could get a photo realism at the time. But it looks bad. It's really bad and then also except the one thing they do do to do anything. Is they make several of the female penguins. These hourglass shape little buckskin. They've got some coke bottle and it's so weird I guess. They have to differentiate them from the male penguins for some reason. But it's also this bizarre thing I mean that's the other promise you have like a movie where most of the characters are going to end up looking the same like any in which like a Gloria. And what's the mother's name emphasis not fucking Marilyn Monroe? Which is why I feel like. He's like okay. The distinguishing really. Got To have the most cartoonish voice doing elvis there. She's doing a Maryland. Things sort of breathy fans. There are a little scenes in the last third of the movie. Were visually adult Gloria. And Norma Jean or standing next to each other and you can barely differentiate between the two totally and same thing with like adult mumbles with Memphis. Alone background penguins. They give mumble Blue Eyes. Everyone else has like black little his little little time. I think that the is when he's a little kit. When mumbles is a baby adore? Yeah when a teen kind of makes them look weird he looks kind of intense does match with would of course who like anytime? He's onscreen especially Lord of the Rings. You're on Jesus blinking. Just stares Peter Jackson would you that trick where he would like shine like forty lights into his eye to make his is like see very dazzling which the trick was if they were shooting late at night and they ran out of lights they would just put his is behind the camera for close up but I remember walking out of fellowship of the ring. My mom being like we get it with. His is sick of his eyes by the end of the movie. Lucy he looks a little creepy. Not Creepy very in ten. I think creepy is the appropriate word share. But it is this weird thing of like. So you have like little details like that or like Norma Jean. Hess like a heart birthmark on one of her breasts. Looks like even notice like a biker Bar Tattoo almost But but by in large these penguins all kind of look the same. He's doing like a working as much as he can to sort of make them like the physiology of them is pretty much exactly the same as a real penguin looks. He's not redesigning them in any way that makes them easier to animate their faces are still kind of innately inexpressive. Because small is the BIG INEXPRESSIVE. Like it's like a mouth that just flaps open and closed so like for Hugo weavings. Villain Penguin got like a little crooked cray. Only one who SORTA looks any amount of different. There is the one chunky boy who played fat show. Yes yes Seymour right right. But he's just like they took the main penguin model and just a little bigger fat involvement does really put this movie in two thousand six thirty two carats like fat. Joe's enough of scarred. Lena kids move. Lean back just happened like a year right. Do you know the to cast replacements. That happen and happy to know. Go ahead Brittany Murphy passes the year before the phone comes out. So we'll remains one of the strangest and most upsetting and then her husband died. Shortly after and everyone thoughts mold turned out. They had toxic mold in their shower and both of them got pneumonia. Were never diagnosed. Yeah that is like basically the accepted explanation. I know that that was never like fully. Fully firm was also a weird Con Artists. So people kept on going tied to something that he died so shortly after it was that there was like when they when they ripped open their house. After the husband died they were like this. Shower is riddled with. I didn't know insane Super Weird. Wow very strange but anyway so she. She's replaced with her of course but of course right and you're like you know. George Miller was like it was really sad. It was tragic. She was getting ready to record a year before the film came out. We had no choice. It's dedicated her memory and then fat Joe is replaced with common. Why life's too short. Why make a second movie with fat? Joe Comments seems like a better option. Just the indignity of just being like no. It's fine we we will call you fat. Even bring that character back exactly like to know we need. I need to look at but isn't he? The father renewed Seymour. He's got this is all. I know they're happy to is kind of the next generation and there's like a little kid who looks just like mumbles son right who looks just like baby mumble by the same actress e g daily who voices young mumble in this and then common has tommy from rugrats who's also dotty music adventure but then the fat Joe Common Character also has a son who looks exactly like the little version of him from this movie by the same actor. A young rapper him little peanut all right happy feet so what I was just going to say so I am going to lack the technical terms to get this right but other than like the adult and child version of mumbles who have like textured for and when they're in the movie sure nobody you see like there for and their feathers like individually reacting to the weather when the get wet they look went whatever every other penguin. This movie is essentially a model they built without a lot of texture and they're essentially putting a skin on it that has texture painted onto it. Which is the equivalent of wearing a t-shirt shirt that makes you look like you have six pack APPs which is one of the reasons all the penguins look bad because when they're moving their bodies not distorting properly right. It's like you're stretching still-image. Here's my this is the biggest problem with this movie. And this movie strange. Yeah but I just. It just doesn't look like many amid thousands animated film. It's just a little chink which I yeah. I think people were like. Can you believe what this thing looks like carton wrong in thinking the dancing was motion captured? Rally that was part of the tech. Pitch at savvy. Glover came in and did some great tap dance and like we map that onto the penguin which the animation community has always hated film. A lot of them have been snubbed for best animated film even when they were critically a door right and so there was a whole campaign of being like no. The movie is not mow. Capped the stars who voice. The penguins didn't do mo cap the Mo cap is just the dancing because he wanted the versa militant of these have to be the best tap dancers in the world. If penguins are going to tap dance it has to be bringing the noise bring in the funk level steps also another thing about mumbles like aesthetic is. He has not lost all of his baby feathers shirt. Which like what. And why is that just another way from everyone else and give them kind of a? Teen Energy? I suppose it's interesting. That the the idea of him as an outcast right because you can only have one kid. Yes per year but in this movie. It's really just the right idea of like this was our shot at an offspring are heart songs at United. I let him weird right. You can't sing a dancer and it's a classic like kids movie. Just kids story trope of like the point where it's like everyone in this town. Does this thing the one way or we all look this one. It's footloose right. And then one person is born the wrong way and we like resist them and push them away until they ultimately trusts very weirdly to very because when he was born when mumble is born it. The movie frames it as though his feet and the way in which they behave. Yeah it's almost framed as a disability gets dropped. Yeah quite quickly. After that it takes over an hour for it to be like a form of artistic or emotional expression for him right at first. It's like does he have a neurological disorder. What what is going on here? It's like a weird tick right. He just sort of like stop in a bow but he's but then He. You know as a kid. It's like hold it in right. They're like no. That's not cool. Now what do that? Also central premise of what is normal for. This movie is so wild drops into the deepen end where the movie just cold starts with fairly realistic looking top line technology. Two thousand six penguins big actor. Kokomo Hugh Jackman recognizable stars right. Yeah Australian you know so like George Miller he stars right right like Nicole. Kidman a couple years away from an Oscar like like heat hugh in Peak Wolverine Era and they're just fucking singing prince to each other and removing the sexual words replacing them with eggs and shit but sometimes not. There's any league where they're like. I WANNA make love to you. And it's like we're only close to you which has always were at least. When we were kids was acceptable that had come into the realm of acceptable. You say make love to a child like it could be in a commercial you know what I mean. Yes but it's this very specific to good thing. I'm just saying that was the way a win. It's this very thing when mating post Moulin Rouge thing to me where it's like every musical number is like Elephant Love Medley Russell. Every song eight songs yes. Every song is Shrek Swamp Karaoke. I think that's funny about penguins is also. They often will just go like that. You know they'll just kinda stretch it out. David was doing what I can only describe as what he does he usually recording episodes but then he added up shook his head but otherwise out stretching his arms. Here they go here. They're gonNA look see how it's going down they're kinda doing like They kind of nibble each other. You know the Kinda like the beaks Kinda Green each others. And then it's sort of like you kinda just inch your way around your face to face. Oh okay the thing where they do it in the movie where like their heads tilt downward and it forms. A Heart Shave potties. Corey like a horrific looking heart like an Nemec squeezed hard Yeah I guess it's just the old fashioned back kind of just a little penguin sandwich right. Old-fashioned Penguin Sam. Gosh when you watch a lot of like David attenborough documentaries but anyway big the movie just like I feel like there's probably five or six minutes that elapse before a line of dialogue is spoken. So yeah and you. It is very strange at this came right after March of the penguins. 'cause it's funny that basically anyone who seen more to the penguins can just be like. Yeah Yeah I know I know what do I know? Know they got a huddle up for a couple of months with the eggs. The boys and the girls are going to go off and get the fisheries by cl- complete coincidence this documentary that performs like a blockbuster area by Morgan Freeman. Or whoever right gives everyone all the frame of reference thing need for the opening of this movie documentary that like every kid saw yes but but yes. The Heart Song thing is so strange because it's like it's it's elastic to the point where it's like well. It's not just like mating calls because it's also like this form of artistic expression but it feels like it's a somewhat supernatural thing like it's almost like imprinting in the twilight saga where it's like. You have to find the one song and that's your song forever but also they say multiple song dance. Yes only tap dancing make you. We're talked it's a good point actually right. Most forms of dancer like yeah. That's part of the routine but like just that secondary K. Heart Song is Primo. And do you get to tap dancing because penguins have no legs and little feet like was it just him being like look funny? It has to be right a little fee. It's funny it's low little feet no legs. There have the feeder happy to feed our half so to me. The Heart Song thing was rooted in some science right. Because isn't their thing with the emperor. Penguins where like the babies can distinguish like their mothers else. Yes I was like okay. They build off that. There's have made in calls. You'll see those gatherings of thousands of penguins and right the David Amazingly they always know who look the same. That's just what we think they're just going to the wrong mate all the time. We're definitely. Yeah those two question. It's look. It's generally weird that there's Antarctica where there's nothing going on and it's just like penguins like. Yeah this is going to be our spot. What's like a winter wasteland? I have never seen a penguin. I'm assuming in the never seen interesting. Have the same. Never never been to never entered when you can. I suppose go. I think it's a whole thing. 'cause I've been north I went to Alaska and there you see puffins you went to Alaska. Yeah you didn't know that about me. That was last year. You went to Alaska last year for. Oh right yeah and then we stood state because it was like and there. They're puffins and when you see. Puff owns it is like Oh my God. It's like the little cartoon animal that you kind of thing might not even be real you also. That was the reason you stayed out there. Because you want to pitch them a book right. I'M GONNA make this show. It's always there wasn't hovering we're gonNA find a landing spicy a Moose Sausa- Moose. I've always wanted to see you guys. Bears like wild and not in the wild was a little a little no grizzlies grizzlies in like a nature. Preserve God I but I did see a black bear on hike. Like real close to me. Let me too close. Did you see Russia and What's the other thing is I mean? You can see them in a lot of places but they're just so damn charming those movies about audit. He'll give us an honor movie very like. Innately funny animals. I'll root for any order. I think I agree with that. And like in Alaska there they never shut up about autres because like there used to be everywhere and then got over hunted for and now they're back and mean great musician is still waiting for him to do a follow up album. But it's like their tub. They just lie. You know and like they're they're just. They seem very chairman anyway. So we're penguins are in that sphere. Yeah Anyway Heart Song. They're cool. They have a baby right the first ten minutes or just the parents. Yes and you see the the men marching doing doing the march of the penguins around the Aurora Borealis. And then they're seeing to each other but as saying it's like projections come out of their mouths of their heads of the Penguin. God right also always happened in Antarctica. Like it's called the Aurora basic phenomenon. He gets so distracted belting with his boroughs. Sure after it's like it's boring. They gotTA stand there drops. The egg comes back in a significant pop roles in everyone's like you know what they say if egg rolls away you're GonNa have done a bird with who tap dance and that's like guess like if you were a dropped kid you're going to have a bad life right. That's what they're trying to say with. I guess it's like when you're a parent and you drop your kid and you're like this is fucked up. Yeah Pine Anyway. But what if I did something one glass of wine one time and now? I wonder anytime I wouldn't twenty six. They have a gambling problem. You're like dropped a bunch and I turned out. I your like look honestly every other week with you. We were just loops. F- I rolled one off of my changing tape and just onto the ground. Wow and you're is recently. We should mention the big baby. Who IS BIG BABY bus? Wow Wow there's something put the Doorbell Bit. Doorbells been awake for thirty hours or something. We'll WHO's at the door the door to hello you know who it is. I. I'm not sure I do well. 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Your Voice is is something that it might take a little bit of work to get used to but everyone's special in their own ways. You understand why I'm a little bit socially distant because people don't really like being in the same room listening to this for too long anyway. I'm GonNa Leave Bob. So he drops the egg as he said Kale. Yeah and he's worried about that but the egg hatches seems to be normal I. They think it's not to have pop point in March of the penguins. You see sometimes they don't actually it's real fucked this up. I ruin this and then from inside the egg and someone. What's a perfect comes over to tap on Baby Brittany Murphy? Yeah local. She names him yeah right she's like. I'm not your parent. I'm a another baby but I'm naming. This baby penguin named Mamas because he can't talk that well guess what he's a fucking baby he just was born. Give him a break. One hundred percent and so Then you have a baby mumbles this to me the high point of the movie and the cutest thing just pretty cute. The Ad Campaign for this movie was ninety percent baby. Maria poster is the baby even though it's only like twenty minutes. I know a lot. The trailers for this film were mostly just isolated musical number. When he's just like a little guy who's just want to like that. I'm like I love this Penguin. Amal in but I remember like going to see whatever Harry Potter movie was at midnight. Not Knowing this film was being made a teaser. Trailer comes up. Which is Robin Williams with a speedy Gonzales accent? Oh my singing into it. But don't worry. The other character plays is barry white but it was. It was him singing my way in Spanish but it was a different animated sequence. It's not what's in. The movies animated a different sequence. Just for the teaser And then when he hits the high note the camera zooms down his throat and the happy feet logo is his. You've ULA cool. And the whole audience was real giggling and like loved it and I was like what world just accepting this with. The fuck is this and it was one of those like coming next year like it was a far away teaser and I was like I have no idea what this movie is. I imagine once we get closer to the release it will make sense to me and then the trailers were still just penguins dancing and people would say. I can't wait to see that. Cute Penguin dancing movie on what? What's the movie about what happens movie the matter of you dancing penguins but this is the pants? I walk into the theater and at this point in the film. I'm going what what is this about? What is what's going to happen now. They fucking bands well. They hate that he did dancing singing group and he can't sing. It's no good but he does dance. But they're just like Lena fucking show this to people that don't do this around other people right You Got Gloria. Who sorta like the Valedictorian of the of the the Brood right? She's the best share her when she does her little. She's like I figured out what my heart song was. Here it is. It's like not that good. It's not pretty Murphy. I read singer is an adult. Yes but then like when choose a baby I mean it's like kids are bad stuff right. It's a little try. Hard is like an incredibly long classroom sequence. Where after we've been watching Penguin behavior for twenty minutes suddenly Professor Miriam Margulis like grinds to a halt and is like. I'm going to explain all of this right. These are the rules of our society and she's playing like a sort of Grand European sort of affects the other teacher that they take him to Miss Astrakan. Yes yeah okay. 'cause he's trying to correct this kid's weird feet. Yeah he's got happy feet well to them. They're viewing them as sad. Yeah feed even. There's the sequence. Thank you Ben. Where hey crappy feet? The feet stink where. Hey where he encounters lockups qua- one of whom has been tagged right by so scientists day are in the Mafia. They should the hard stirs. The the main one is who's played many of a mobster out. This is Australian film from an Australian filmmaker animated by Australian Special Effects House. You have four big Australian actors in it and none of them are doing Australian accents. Right like a Kidman and Jackman are doing American accent. Hugo weaving is like Scottish Anthony. The polly is doing Brooklyn Grin. What do we know about Anthony? Paalea one of the many things about him but role did he not get to play but he was the first choice for soprano Tony Soprano. He was like go to mobster the night. I think never caught overturning. It's tough tough to it was scheduling. He like he was busy making you know. Not The Soprano. He was doing view from the bridge on. Broadway or something like that. Are you aware that the plot of analyze that is that yes deniro gets hired to be a consultant on a show? That is clearly the Sopranos an Anthony Lapaglia lead actor playing the guy who's a very self serious Australian actor who's a diva and keeps on halting production But wasn't he also was supposed to play Al Capone and road to perdition and they cut that scene. Yeah Anyway he's. They're talking about alien abduction. Seen the thing. That's interesting about this is. This is the only thing I to highlight. That they're like the birds going to kind of treat being Tagged alien abduction. And then someone else's clearly just leaning in I think she kind of mobster. Why do they do these things not match but also this is the fear sooner like monsters talk about this is the first in the movie where they're introducing a major element choosing non penguin right right outside of the basic pitch for this movie? Which is these penguins sing and dance? Suddenly there's this alien thing right and you're like this scene is very menacing. It has a very different tone. You feel like there may be going to eat him when he escapes and goes back to the singing and dancing stuff. You're like well that has to be in there for a reason. Where the fuck is this movie going right? But it drops off for a long time Saturday morning at least and then also in so this scene functions to do a few things one is that it's sort of ever so slightly establishes that fish are scarce the the mafia the mob boss bird like. Oh yeah usually. I don't eat penguins but there aren't a lot of fish right now was like yes yes. That's the first time they bring it up but it's so it's feels like such a throwaway line and not a major plot point which the vibe with happy feet is that right with their interest and then later the like remember when we said that. That's actually been going on this whole time bill pigs. We don't see that onscreen penguins or never struggling to find. I was tough finding out in the ocean like in the beginning of Moana for example there like all the Fisher gone. We've been fishing in. This traps are turning up. Empty in our coconuts. Disease like that establishes visually. What's going on? You have to consider those coconuts. You must consider the. It's better if his leaves. Pretty Street. Oh No do you see. This is why it's considered the coconut. Consider trainees and then the second one is the trunks and yeah anyway. I've the coconut thorough. But yes this movie does not really consider the coconut coconut being overfishing that much. It just kind of peppers and occasional references and then you'll get like when they go back to the Hugo weaving character him Constantly talk about the Great Gwynne. This God who has a plan for them is the they should invest all of their belief into the fact that everything he's doing is for a reason and if they're being punished it's because they're not showing him enough any thanks feet. The TAP dancing right is angering the great Gwynne right. It's an offense which is also where I'm not sure but like the religiousness right sometime is just sort of more vague. Footloose hey look. Communities can be insular sometimes gets a little more expensive spiting. God You have to believe me I promise you God hates this. Then his dad is like I can't have a son who got hates like that relationship feels very like boy a race to me Kidman but then sometimes it's not that at all. Sometimes they just use the Metaphor Eight Kidman. Do you think she drew for him. Boy racy than she was drawing from happy. She was like watching it on her phone being It is funny that there are multiple kids animated movies. That are like balling simple. You just one person and it's magic and when you find him bang that's it right because you don't want to talk about sexual attraction force that unifies people babies boy break anyway so okay so that scene also yes yeah it also sort of establish something that. I guess mumbles going use later on. Which is the idea of appealing to their better nature. Right so it sets that up but again that's dropped off on like that doesn't come back again until the end of the movie and then yeah and then it's like we've got this like Randy Quaid from Independence Day except instead he's in the Mafia. Yeah Aliens Yes. This is all true And then I feel like after this little sequence which involves him like falling into crevice and escaping the squaws right just looking squad. It feels like this trunk of the movie. Essentially through to the first hour is doing like inexpedient riff on the Lion King. Sure like he's a threat to his kingdom. He is ostracized. He goes off on his own. He gets lost then. He finds his Weird Group of Wacky. That's thing is that right He. He's as a teen he. There's a leopard seal attack. And he's sort of separated meets the Amigos before that. Sure I because I've beat baby through what is happening. So suddenly mumble has been in love with Gloria his whole life. Lahser very suddenly his whole life. And there's like this whole horny sequence wherever you all the other males are singing to Gloria Bell. The ball. She's the bill of the ball and mumble. Can't sing so he's like well. I don't have a chance with her. And then they like banish him because he's singing to shady singing to be fair. His singing is pretty intolerant. Don't enjoy no. If it is a singing bass community. I would want him out. They sort of mock him and like fully into who ends up on this like ledge and then he tap dances and it breaks the ice sure ventures just sort of stuck floating well and then you have the seals right. That's when the seal around twenty runs into the the lateen. Act Zeke penguin or Spanish. I mean the the the the biggest save you can do for. What's happened with Robin Williams and right exactly? Let's say let's just say they're Europeans right but I don't think you can really pull that off this kind of incredible not to sully the name of debt no and also like it's it's from his eighties sort of standard participation. A million voices like talk about like Robin Williams. And when anyone Robin Williams impression part of a Robin Williams impression is randomly going into quote unquote. Black Voice Mexican Larry Much and gave voice. Yes it's always like you know it's like he said. Oh baby yeah. Well I don't know about that and then you go back to the whole like it's always that rotation and I remember like when I started doing standup like ten years ago and mumble. You finally landed one all right. Yeah what You Doing. Stand up a while ago. Blessing sample while ago. I'm pointing out. It was ten years ago to talk about a cultural shift. Sure but in two thousand nine you know I remember people saying like. Oh this guy's great. Have you seen him before? He does like amazing impressions about you know. Talk about but other comics on the open mic. Seen they'd be like this guy does incredible impression. What impression does he do? They like? You know like Asian voice would they would just save at yes. I I have that specific memory and I remember people saying things like that. But that's a very conversation and it was a thing where it used to just be like. Oh that's an asset if you can do impressions of the other races which is a thing that Robin Williams drove straight into like the fucking stratosphere like became America's favorite for do it. But it's just it's interesting to think about how when we were kids we were all you know. Similar it yes. Uh-huh we were not guaranteed Robin Williams and every animated film. We saw but it was definitely a possibility in as kids. We were like I know that. That's the genie right like when he's in fern gully they're just like just figured thing like like and then the Robin Williams type is just type in animated movies but he often would just be in the movie right and then this movie is No. He's doing two characters. The characters aren't Robin Williams. Each character is kind of one of his Goto. So they're like animated moving. He's like Hook yes of course right just robots and they're like sure and can you do right. Somebody your standup personas about you do that. And he was a great yes but like silo. Two of the personas off. Yeah Have them in scenes together We're just bring you as two different cultural types that you are not and then he's also the narrator which the narration comes in and out and really sporadic times in the movie. Narrations completely unnecessary necessarily implied that the narrator is which is kind of like in. Aladdin held a merchant at the beginning also Robin Williams and his. Maybe the genie is boy. Oh boy so you've got the Amigos who are just you know some penguins little daily penguins. Who were his like becomes Bros. And they like the dance voice actors I believe are are exclusively people who should be playing characters with a one hundred percent but also Robin Williams says times how apparently also police have been called KLAAS. Don't remember clearly characters if you include the narrator four is thing where he's like. I end eighth build in this movie. He's got like multiple separate filling the opening credits and then they meet quickly. They meet lovelace rock hopper penguin with a six pack ring around his neck right. Who's his own type of religious leader? Who's Mesa sickly like more of an outsider cult leader type tent right and he's all about the pebble you've got to bring a pebble to him for one. Pebble. You get any because this thing Africa through more because the with these penguins they're breeding. Is that the the penguins with the males with the biggest the stony EST nest Lava stone the emails are attracted to the greatness. A great perfect right. I love that which is very logical. I will say that's Jenner. It's just building a home right. It's like I'm a provider of a great old rockiness right and but he's like I'm a Messiah and I need. My payment is pebbles and he has so many ladies. He's got a little entourage. He's got little groupies. Yeah right leave launching. Nair the pebble and the Penguin also about pebble hunting penguins. I think there's a there's a Disney nature documentary to that came out within the past couple of years. I think largely features this type of penguins. I believe in the theaters was it. It was on. I didn't like Ed Helms as a narrator. I'm going to be honest. I like him as a as a comedic persona generally but it wasn't a fan of his narration. Really that is where all of those Disney documentaries fail is Tim. Allen did one about Shinji and it was so fucking anchor chimpanzee. It looks okay from the trail. Then you watch the movie and it's a bunch of Tim Allen Ruin it. You ruined it. So weird like me backtrack. For a second. So a mumble has been banished or he feels unwelcome so he he leaves his community but he's still has like parents who love him. Sure I mean I mean his dad not very understanding but him to be around yeah banishing him explicitly go through the Lion King motion without there being the same kind of tragedy. There's no reason for him to exile himself just kind of well he just goes on like a server room spring a some new people and then when he comes back he's like let plan a I'll lip sync to remond sinking my way this is. What's so crazy? Is I remember watching us in that theater for the first time and even watching she watching it last night for the first time since I saw it in the theaters. I was like this. Is I remember the end to Super Weird but I guess this is. The next hour of the film. Is them slowly making their way back facing multiple dangers? He bonds with his seven Mexican moans and boom butts and then he comes back and he teaches them all a lesson about acceptance and he saves the day. He teaches them a lesson by first trying to hide his book. Is the points difference. What I thought would take up. The rest of the movie takes fifteen minutes right. And then there's another home half right before the hour mark. Hey does his fake over. That doesn't work with Ramon singing for him. Then they're like you fucking freak. Now we're casting you. But then he tap dances right. Yeah boogie Wonderland. Yeah and she loves him now so like this is not acceptable. Yeah okay we skipped another part where so as you still hanging out with. His little shorter friends. He sees this large piece of quote. Alien human rushing ARY. And he's like a big bulldozer. He kind of and he was like is this. What's eating our fish or something? Which sort of like kind of route? So that's like the inciting. This happens over forty minutes into the movie that feels like an inciting incident of one of the three different storylines unfolding in this movie and then he goes back to and he's like but there's there's aliens out there are real and I'm going to go there and figure out what's up which confirmed for me that there wasn't GonNa be Real Aliens. Still hoping like visas just got nasty by. Little Green Man. I had a whole different spooky cartoon fake bird in a fake movie talking about aliens. You're just immediately like guys. I think Aliens No. It's like he's an outcast. He leaves he comes back and then he leaves a very strange stories. Sort of like he leaves on a whim and he comes like half a plan and then they do the one and then take it from there. Definitely go and Gloria is like. I should come with you. And he's like no. I'm GonNa let you Tennessee to away from me because God forbid female character with any sort of you know narratives at least a few times in every piece of scum feeling. There's no room for the woman in the film to speak more. Rumblings has five different characters. Speak in this one but this is when his dad disowns him. Yeah because okay. You're not you're not right now. They're like actually now. Please leave and then now for the first time in our into the movie. He's like I have things to prove at that point. You're like what's is it. Solving the fish problem. Aliens are lovely apple. I got the the this weird soda can sorta bathrooms. I actually got it from like way out there beyond the seals. He's been saying like this is a necklace that was bestowed upon religious artifacts. Right so mobile rather than being like all right. Fun Fact. Don't care is like I guess. My answers will also be available if I go on that same journey. Even though there's nothing about love laces know behavior that suggests that fumble should be like. This is the guy I wanted. Like a mimic. Yeah I'm just. I'm just trying to unpack all this. I'm sorry it doesn't work for a kid. They're just like yes. Sure it goes somewhere else. That's fine but delete this hugh this alien. What he interprets to be like an alien artifact that is stuck around his neck is now suddenly choking him before it was fine. I don't know what changed nothing. But they all went to his neck fair enough but I do think in terms of the the story beats this movie is hitting so many of them are so classical right and like finding lovelace choking is sort of like the wizard of Oz. Like man behind the curtain. Moment where it's like. This guy is just kind of like a week. Scared little man and then rather than that being the reveal of like all these ideologies are false. They're like you're part of the skeleton crew. Now come with us. Help US find the answers. We need Like it doesn't sort of remove lovelace of any power. They're still kind of using him as a compass because they need Williams on board. I guess right even thing made two hundred billion huge who it is bizarre and eventually they go to the forbidden shore and acting insulin. Right yeah right. We're ORCAS which I don't like it's too cute. We were talking about you. Know like are they healthy are. There's all these sort of like synchronized their sort of batting four. Show right. It's weird. I also think it always gets weird and talking animal movement can't talk it's true. What's the logic there and like the sharp tooth talk land before time right? 'cause he's bad he can talk the talk. We'll get to it eventually. But the end of the movie when they're all fucking chowing down on fish when their own fishing air and eating the shit out of them. I'm like did they just not have any interior already? These fish is a great question. I mean there are some animals obviously right. Scientists like these animals kind of seem to have some sort of level of thought going on and others. Are you know we're all instinct? Only other thing I know about happy fee to is that Matt Damon and Brad Pitt Play Krill. Yes so it feels like he's saying no even the little things are alive and they have their own little weird corine. Finding Nemo all species. Speak Right there's no nonverbal Krill too. Yeah they all take whale dozens. Wales worry communicates oil right. Yeah of course. Shouldn't the plant talk? Great wow this is rate curve. Ball throw the movie. Should throw it in late because this movie's in under stuff and we're submitting that question for the Pulitzer this but I will say Yeah so this is where. The movie takes a full-on swing into nightmare. When he's putting the Zoo yes right right right he decides. I'm going to swim towards the boat because I need to. I need to come back with an answer. I need to figure out what's going on here. I need to solve the suddenly. There is so much narrative to we need to solve the fish problem right and he. He was right in fish problem. Yes but the band also like let's figure out what the aliens are right and his punishment. Essentially is you know Zoo imprisonment which I think a lot of movies. Do this kind of thing where it's like. Oh the main characters are misinterpreting thing. As a different thing. I mean it's almost like the aliens and interstellar but as we said they show you human technology so early on that year like I'm way ahead of them. I know these are fucking humans. Say we're not going to see so many aliens Ben Clearly. You didn't think you were going to see live action human beings. That's the thing that is and I also just didn't think he was going to go to this. Just seems like like it's too far away. A weird sort of way towards the boat right. He gets caught in the net. Then they use some horrifying looking to peel them off and then he keep swimming after the boat for wear. Do they end up? Australia is like cut to black. And then there's narration. That's like hey swam father beyond could've that anyone could imagine and then suddenly he's either like in La or like on the coast of us. Some knows really city all possibilities all solid maybe but just that scene where he's all dazed drugged and like out of his money like the Truman show like hamlet touching the walls with the people but also they are penguins is like just like hypnotize about all of this is when it gives us a grave fisher. Great Dave. This is a great idea for a movie. Yeah I just don't know if it's a great idea for like five minutes at the end but kids you're this going and the first moment when especially concerning. This is like two years before wally. The first moment win an hour and a half into this movie he swims towards the Glass. And you see the reflection of a human face and your office. Is this like really realistic? Cg and then they cut back y'all triangle and you're like no they're just real people in this movie. Yeah what if Billy Elliot Ninety minutes in captured and imprisoned by CGI Penguins for ten minutes and then he danced for them and they were like. Oh you're one of those Get HIM OUT OF HERE IN SOME SCIENTISTS. But then there's like there's a good amount of time that's just him losing his sanity a few minutes but for this movie it just feels. It is twice as long as the amount of time. They spend showing the U. N. Making planet changing decisions that montage although forty five seconds gavel speech beach news broad penguin. Un In this movie. That would have been fun. You have had all the species you can't spell paying with you an point. I'm feed three. I mean but that's what's so crazy to montages that are narrated one of him losing his mind his friends. They're hitting the wall rowing fish against the wall to feed them seemingly becoming borderline suicidal or at the very least like brain dead Like he says like he lost his mind. Yeah right and then he just has this one. Little tap comes out because there's girls tapping on the beat which you're not supposed to do but in this. Yeah we say. Don't tap on the glass and this girl's sake don't want the penguins start tapping knowledge their intellectual dancing capabilities on tap tap tap dancing. And they're like of course. We should have realized. This penguin belongs in the Antarctic. Because he dances that this all of this happens within less than ten minutes from the moment this is going towards the boat to then him getting noticed the girl leave bring back her mom a bigger crowd than it's filmed. It goes viral world comments on it. They place a locator tracking device on him. Bring him back home so they can figure out if it's his species or not Ebay because they're like if penguin or dancing they must be trying to tell us. Okay here's the crazy part about this. So they bring him back he. He shows up to his community he like just arrived like the the aliens they're real. They are taking our fish data. What's that weird thing on your back? He's like I don't know but I think it's to help them find me and then proof alien technology right and meanwhile no is like. I don't know what's happening. But then the thing starts beeping and then some humor some live action. Humans show up but they had just dropped him off. Wouldn't they already be right there at the high fungible object in happy feet? I really know but he gets era. Arrival is enough for people to be like turns out aliens and real. It's damn gets into this. Logical argument with Hugo Weaving. Where he's like you know like we shouldn't work with the aliens it's like I thought you said aliens weren't realize they're not and that's why we shouldn't work with them and then they recognize he's alive and they're like well if this guy's lying maybe we should fucking tapped the concept. It's all it's been within them all along the road good dancers 'cause cut to like a half hour or so earlier. When he comes back he tries to sing the song that ramones actually like singing. Yes of confidence in the East and then the whole community where you'll get on board. They're like actually. This tap thing is cool. They all start dancing. And then it's not until like Noah the evil the religious zealot alien penguin is like you make some feel shame and his dad is like a you or you're dumb and then that's when he leaves again but there's a moment where like every the community is on board. That's the other. It has to happen within this ten minute strike is he comes back and before. He sells everyone on tap dancing. He's like where's my dad there like you don't WanNa see what's happening with your dad like half dead has been like attack and drinking. Now what's going on? It's no he's just sat in a cave. Mccabe Sean I never done right by you. One day your entire life and then he says Jackman Film. I Love Young. Glad you're back. Let's fucking TAP DANCE? Put some spin on the ball really English on that final another thing but there's a lot has done all of the emotional work of coming to terms with his son in. Kasane was gonNA send arrived at he's like I'm glad you're here and not a moment too soon. I fully accept you. You don't have to say anything. The other moment you have to have is where fat Joe Shows Up. And it's sort of like you know when you return to your hometown kindly. Oh my are they together. And it's like now owns yeah. I thought that that was all her kids. They're student I mean you know they are coupled and had a bunch of uh and then also started a school to teach only their biological children then stuck out to me later when they kiss them like. Oh my gosh. She's cheated on fat. Joe Nola yeah the fattest of the drills but then right this is where like. And he's actually because jealous. One's envy sure that was his album but when he's it's good to have employees someone that you might be envious title Jealous. Ones still envy when he's in the zoo. Jose and he's trying to yell lot. Zoo goers right by the way are all like half of them are stylized to look like they're from like the fifties or sixties just and then everyone else is like modern. They're weird like babe pig in the city. Schuman's where they're like very heightened. Yeah like they're very made. The performances are very big gets on his cell phone. And he's like. Have you heard about this? These like reminds me of the hula-hoop montage from hudsucker proxy. This who wants to tap dancing shoes. Oh Mercer like the kind of like were they would take the light bulb out and throw in. It's got that vibe crazy Dutch angles like fading into each other still. I think we shouldn't if the Patriots it is. Just it's like okay so there was just one dancing penguin from the zoo. The scientists decided to return return him to his habitat. Okay but this is. The penguins stands for the people and it was filmed okay and this prompted the UN to be like fishing as a concept. We just got. We've just got ban a bayonet no fishing allowed whatsoever. Just just like just the leaps I can take this from. A TO Z like what? How filling in these gaps. Do you see me. It's a mess tangled bureaucratic nightmare. They sold that fully before they even put him on the helicopter to go back and make good with his dad. He's like by the way no big deal. I've changed the entire fabric of the world economy to solve an issue that the penguins are having which is like a fish scarcity that we barely even knew was a conflict in the film and the ecological. But also there's the one moment and one of the meetings where the woman says like well I think we should just doomed offing cleanly states. Like why should we change? Anything we're doing will cost. Money makes his when he's in this vein the zoo box. Yeah and he's like yelling at them like fish fish fish and then a cut to the other side of the Glass. Like just the worst sound in the world. And you go. Oh I guess that's what. This movie has all been building up to narrative. Lii is his superpower is because he figured out how to tap dance and not saying he's the only penguin who can communicate to the humans if he had been normal never would've made impression he just sort squawked but you also then have to take the leap that they are so blown away by his tap dancing that they then go there has to be some being conveyed right and research everything going on in the Penguin College now has stances a nonverbal way of communication universal language. Here's some other facts about this phone. The end of the movie is they solve every every perfect. Who's coming though? Yeah some things are GONNA get fucked up out to the world and a feather flock zoom out way. How horrible and then we see a feather. Don't know what that's supposed to rectify Georgia aliens alien in that men in black. Here's some of the things. They showed this movie to Prince to gain his approval for using the song kiss and loved the movie so much that he wrote them a Song. The song of the heart of called right prancing notoriously did not say yes to many things right openly volunteer. He was like happy feet. No not letting you do my song. And then he saw in one week watching these. Here's an extra song for you and one Gold Batman so yes yes weird that it was snubbed at the Oscars weird about the pop song. Some do you remember that his globe? When he was stuck in traffic it was one of the early awards given out and they accepted it and then he showed up like forty minutes later and they let him give and close great. So you got that What are some other facts about? This movie savvy glover. He was taught to walk like a penguin and given a penguin apparatus on his head. Yes it's by. Who a penguins. Yeah probably yeah. Mumble is an EP at a at wonderbra beyond you must walk like me. Doing an impression of it makes me feel uncomfortable. Maybe you can fact check this but I D be said that this is the highest grossing movie. That Nicole Kidman has ever Ben and I think that's one hundred percent now aquaman is swept in. That's not no longer true but it might be her second up until that right. She wasn't Batman forever. That's another big hit for gross less than I mean obviously came out You know ten years prior so let's see let's see Nicole Kidman's top five movies number one with a bullet number two happy number. Two happy feet number three Batman forever number. Four the upside. Wow this year last year. Kevin Hart Bryan Cranston remake of Inspirational French drama to Bryan Cranston wheelchair. Kevin Hart to take care of was a high grossing movie Million Dollars Domestic Number fifteen in January number three years five. Just go with it. The Adam Sandler movie. Wow number six the others. Those are her six hundred million grocers in in the US. That's crazy but if you sort by worldwide guess what jumps into the five to movies jump into Moulin Rouge no not Mulan Rush Okay something. That's a disproportionately well overseas movies. Jump though derived friend of the POD. It's is it a movie we've covered on the show. He's been on the show. Multiple Times director O- golden compass correct. Okay which was a bigger hit. International right and the other is a great film. Great Film that we both love sure. Caitlyn likes to maybe not. I don't WANNA speak Dogville. Made five hundred million dollars in in in China. It's a great film you and I love and maybe me let me think of you like this kind. Is She a main character? She's villain Paddington Addington Seventy six domestic but two eight to fifty. You said you don't WanNa make an assumption. I did spy background. It is David there he is. He's am obsessed with padding yours the thing I feel like people don't talk about. He's very nice bear. He'll be he'll give a hard stare. We'll give you heart staff. Yes to good employed everything well. The world on rouge called mountain kind of a big hit overseas. The interpreter did okay overseas and she's made a lot of movies. She's meant she has and only one of them out gross happy. I just think it's important. Like point out is so colossal that after this not only are they like one hundred percent you get to make your Mad Max Unlimited Budget. Take your time whatever it is recast at younger actor. You're good to go but they also go. Hey George Miller do justice league and this is right before the writers strike is about to happen when studios are like trying to stockpile scripts as fast as they can. Bamiyan begins his come out. The Dark Knight has not and Warner Brothers is like we're going to set up a second Batman Franchise. We're going to do a different parallel on screen at the same time. Yes they hired George Miller. He works on this movie for like League. Cohen mortals cast it. They're an active production. The plug gets pulled the absolute last the second because the registry among other things correct. Well I mean they were trying to get it done before the writers strike and I think they thought the script was like ten percent less good than a needed to be but also apparently Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan complained. And we're like you're just going to put some other fucking Batman and it's some who's a dumb I some random twenty year old dame me. Look at this arm and Hammer. I'll armie Hammer Hammer. At the age of like twenty or twenty one was cast as Batman. You can read the script if you want. I believe it's it's been written by people a cure and Michelle Mulroney. Adam Brody was the flash common was green lantern. Hugh Key Barnes Aka Morton Joe was or should manhunter and Megan gale who plays Valkyrie and fury road was going to be wonder woman right. Mckee rolls over a lot of things but then a bunch of other like Tessa Palmer and Zoe Kazan. We'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT. I think shelves. I don't think we're happened. Is that in July. It was supposed to start filming in July. Two Thousand Eight. Yes came out in July. Two Thousand Eight The dark right and I think after that it was like you know what this is splendid. They didn't they really pleased now. But then it was they. They really had the clout. The Dark Knight comes out anyway. Instead Warner Brothers pivoted to a surefire hit Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern Film. Yeah I'M NOT KIDDING. Really Down Right. Yeah and Anyway. But let's say the box escape so this movie. I remember this very specifically. This movie was number one for three weeks in a row. That's with the same movie at number two for all three weeks. Every week people went. That movie is going to be happy feet right and it kept on SUPLEX ING Casino Roy. Out Corrects Casino. Royale number two movie. They released at the same time. They basically gross the same amount of money like happy if he was just always a little higher and Casino. Royale is one of those highest grossing Never Number One movie and Casino Royale was so beloved. The word of mouth So good that they were like this week and it's going to jump up and it's going to take over happy feet immobile is like hold my fucking beer. I own you. So those are the top two films. Happy feet debuted to forty one million dollars on November. Seventeen th Thanksgiving movie and Casino Royale. Wd Forty million dollars and happy feet ends up to change. No just under two. I think one ninety and Casino Royale was like one ninety. Let's find out Griffin one. Sixty seven apprentice actually pretty never But number three at the box office was The big comedy breakout comedy of the year. The big breakout comedy. I haven't checked in with this movie recently. I'm sure if I watched it. Now there would be no issues You know in the harsh light of day with this one sounds like there would be some issues movie kind of ruined culture for a ten year this movie. You point the finger at it. Borek Mk wild to think that like I grew up in Britain. Yeah okay I I had grown up with ally with Sasha Baron Cohen's algae you had been making learning glorious benefit of Nation of Kazakhstan forever right. I've been this sort of side character and he had done analogy movie. They had like hit in Britain but obviously not overseas allergy was a very cult figure but that each be oh show movie was scripted. Was the prime minister type. You know like if you will sort of one hundred percents not respected film. Even if it was a garbage people were Charles Dances the Valley in Dallas. And he was like. I'll do a spin off. I'm going to do Borat and everyone was like. Oh sure okay. Show runs for two seasons and it's very beloved but it was never like a massive cultural hits and then but when Borat came out all of the world was like we've been waiting for this. We're thinking like that. So we wanted the mockumentary fictional Kazak. I'm sorry the world said Very nice or my way. Where is my wife right now? Because it's only three Ironic Lucy's the funniest thing in the world. Remember when it was it was it was from Borat sick of it? It was and then just saying it became funny again and it was from the guy down the hall of my dorm and then like that got overdubbed. Are we now my wife? We're like I think so. I think it's number one funny. Do you have any borat takes you. WanNa weigh in on Borat? An Oscar nominated screenplay densely written film for sure no but on the back of cast. We have a gimmick where we do instead of my wife This is based on a gravestone from the movie. The Rock Michael Beige the rock. Where his wife so we always do as wide as he's like? Is that real? Can I just can I throw a two things? I find fascinating about Borat before. Move on from Borat. One Todd Phillips. The only man brave enough to tame retired bit himself was hired to direct. The borat movies filmed the borat movie for multiple weeks and was like this is too dangerous. I can't do this. Can't do quit. The film Larry Charles takes over. He gets a producer credit he gets an Oscar nomination issues. A story credit. Yes yes. Click put the man who was so twisted. He put us in the mind of someone who laughs at the things that make us cry. Sure couldn't handle fucking bore. Bora came back right now. Perfect time number two thing. I think we're it's another really fascinating box office thing where the low budget studio film base off a cult. Tv Show then. The hype went through the fucking roof and people were losing their minds. Then Fox got really scared that the expectations are getting too high because it was the same year snakes on a plane where the Internet was blowing up about something and then no one went to see it so the weekend before it came out. They were like never mind. We're not releasing it wide. It eight hundred people still made twenty six match. What's insane they were like? Let's limit the theater count so we won't look like we're underperforming if we don't and instead every single screen sold out. It was like one of the biggest person averages ever the next week and they put it on two thousand screens and it was number one again crazy number. Three number four is the kind of movie. About what if you signed a sort of mythical contract you take on a role in society? Mr Emporium no you Kinda. Give me points for that. Guess Scher you sort of you. Sort of spiritually signed this contract. The act of murder is it. The Santa Clause Three Colon. It's called the escape clause right. Who's the Villain Jack? Frost played by Martin Chats Right. Yes yeah I don't know anything else about that movie. But I know that. It's about a clause in his Santa Claus contract which he of course there's escape on wittingly agreed to through murdering Santa Claus. Movie he's getting I burn. There's time travel. I know that was kind. Kinda like an. It's a wonderful life so maybe but it does follow the trend of the third movie of a sequel having time travel elements because we do that with Ninja Turtles. We do that with others. That I can't remember Harry Potter and yet others. I'm sure you're listening. It also county Santa has to fight bad Santa thing because it's like Jack. Frost hates that he never rose to an elected position. He never got the chance to murder. Santa himself so he exploits. The fact that Tim Allen's like I'm burned out I could use a vacation shows him. The escape clause loophole. And then because he knows they won't accept HIM BEING SANTA. He builds an evil bad robot. Santa where they're like. This looks like Tim Allen. But he's an asshole. He keeps on complaining about the fact that he can't use the N. Word what's up with this guy and then I think the two Santa's have to fight. Can you give me the the sort of three tag lines from the Santa Clause three laws poster number one is just billing? Naughty Nice. No it's Santa Claus vs Jack Frost. Okay formal okay number two. I'm sure you can't but it's pretty good. It's not it's not a versus Nice. I could've sworn What was the fight before they looked like a boxing match poster? Right you've got both of them. Sort of have a fist up. Yeah both of them were sort of like contemplated they're also treating it like it's like Pacino. Deniro he'd like. Finally we're going to get to see weirdly. Made a Martin short and Tim Allen Punch each other and then weirdly their liquids tag one more tag on the bottom lost bites November third. You really needed that. And then there's a teaser poster. His time at the North Pole is about to go south. Oh Wow clever. It's just so funny that this and that are in theaters in fucking November. They can't wait to crispus. They're like we gotta get the Christmas movie out. Almost always the first week of November weird because their whole thing is if you release it right before Christmas back for Christmas right and also December twenty six. No one will go see it the day after Christmas. No one wants to see accessories right so you have to get your business leading up to it. It peaks on Christmas Day. And then you all right number. Five of the box office is not a movie that I like it all but it is genuinely the kind of movie that Israel would just never make any more Graham on. No it's a comedy kind of Meta comedy stringent affect stranger than fiction. What's his pants? Zach helm the writer and director of Mr maccormick was wondering Stranger Than Fiction Will Ferrell. He's hearing and narrator Mary his life. Yeah it's just like I. I don't like that movie that I only saw what I don't hate it but I remember like being kind of excited for it and kind of like not quite loving execution but there was like a buying frenzy and every big actor joined the cast that movie. They're like this. Tom Who else is in that? Lean graced us with her presence. Latifah herself of course End like Sony made that. Yeah right yeah and then they were like I dunno surprised. This underperformed this man. Who's in a book? It'd be forty million dollars bass seen Jalen Hall Raid Complaining About Taxes. I remember that scene right. Some other movies flushed away. Horrible movie horrible. Most saw three not good but excited for spiral had time traveling. Because it's the third of thing also men in black three Yes you're right about Saw three because that's where they have to be like. Why the fuck did we kill the guy basically movie to? Why do we get cancer? This is Tara. So let's flash back. I guess it was making a joke. But I'm sure that does happen all the flashbacks dead in sought three. I think that's probably. The reason is by the third movie they go like. Oh Fuck we put ourselves in a bad position. It'd would be easier to make a third movie if we could go back and change this thing. That happened in the first or second movie. And they're like. Let's make the movie about them going back and making this film easier to write. Are you excited for spiral from the saw? Because I'm very ready to open through it for the Chris Rock saw movie. No get ready all right Chris. Rock Samuel Jackson maximum gala. The trio. They're taking on saw very bizarre. I talked about this before. But the press release when they announced the Chris Krok was executive produced and starred. And you saw film. There's this quote from the head of Lionsgate. That is when Chris rock came in and pitched US his terrifying New Vision for the future of the saw franchise. We were chilled to our core. It's something like that but I just picture the lionsgate executive lying awake in bed at three o'clock in the morning and get it out of my head his wife just going honey. What's Chris Rock? Came in this morning and I don't even have to say this. He pitched US his terrifying New Vision for the future of offering. Some other films got by bell the able. Yeah in aged is he is. He's in Cape Blanchett's in Uh Rica. It's a movie of course about the fact Tragedy I can't talk to each other. If only we could learn how to tap dance. Language barriers got departed. Oh Yeah give my best picture winner. You've got let's go to prison. Debut in this week hit advocacy. That's the Bob Odenkirk. Yeah I found that it's mostly about Trying to Not Get sexually assaulted in prison. But it's a comedy anyway. Happy Feet we did it and after that there were no more happy. Few movies right. That was that. Just the flip of it being like we hand you Justice League that goes down there like please put all your energy into happy feet two and he clearly says I'll do happy feet two. If you finally let me make the Mad Max movie and that happy feet two is like the thing that gives him the chance but film leverage to make fury road at the scale that he wants. It's insane it is funny to think the right they were like find. You can do Mad Max. That's the hit right. Happy feet money in the bank. I mean a five year. Wait for a sequel demand. A sequel animation. Take so long. Especially if you don't have studio up and running at this does not pass the Bechtel test right. I doubt it Sarah female character forgetting the very very fancy teacher. Oh well there's two teachers ulcers but they don't talk to each other if one would interact. I guess it would be Gloria and Norma Jean. Gloria have a brief conversation is true probably about her son right contextualized that well they and then they talk when she's like I know what a heart song is like. They're when she's a baby to contextualized that it's all about. I need a heart song so that I can find a male lover favorite sub genres a premier photo. Well that's so sick wikipedia. We have the rights to this image. Only so like his eyes are half I also love. Here's what I love about these types of photo. Lovelace there is no warner brothers. Theme Park is not like they built that costume. So that they can ship it over to Orlando. It's bigger than life size. You're right. It's also weird that he has a sweater. I didn't show need sweater. Happy to a bunch of Swedish better thing because all I know is the logo for Happy Feet. Two wearing sweater yes. There's like a sweater from the trailers so they built this giant walk around lovelace costume. And it's never going to be put at Universal Studios. It exists only so that Robin Williams can stand next to it at a red carpet. It's awesome interest goes into storage motion. This is George Miller's full look every time I know he what what. How do you describe? He looks like he's about to invent flubber. He's got like the round glasses. He's got sort of like a suit with no tie and he's got the long hair that sort of swept back but oftentimes he's wearing like a very loud colorful shirt. Yeah the glasses on the thing about the big round glasses. Also they're always on the necklace strings. Always got the strings hanging off. Yeah it's just I don't mind his look I mean I think it rules also like I was watching all the like behind the scenes. Mad Max documentaries and the first like ten years of his career he looks normal and pretty cool like the Max that. He's just like some dude wearing a leather jacket and then he starts looking like he looks like an Outta work conductor. Who's really let himself go fella. I Love I love I. Love Happy. Feet doesn't really do it for me. But that's okay. Yeah we'll say like you seem like you're pretty mixed on old. The old feet sees. I am heavily anti happy feet heavily. Anti yes from a screenwriting standpoint alone it is. It's kind of an abomination. Yeah I kind of I was watching it going. Like what the fuck is this? And then the last fifteen minutes kind of one meal over just in the audacity of just how big they go so fast. Can I ask like now? You think that they wrote the dances in the screenplay. Like how do you write dance? This has come up on the show. Right dance I mean probably probably not stand Shimmy to the left Shimmy to the right Probably you'd leave that up to like the choreographer to figure it out but you'd be like yeah and now the character does this type of dance you put it down as like a character name. Like mumbles left foot and then the dialogue is tap tap tap tap and then the next line someone in our suburb. This figured out that we're doing Miller because of my my habit of logging everything complained about this. And I think it's good because it tips off the her diehard fans you know what they want to watch and rent and stuff and I think our fans can go suckle limit or this is the fourth film. We've covered the prince original song for along with Batman. I'll do anything and showgirls. There's a print song and showgirl. That's one I didn't know about some. Wow the Mount Rushmore films. Or are there any? I mean how outside of Prince's own realms rip God's Zip I dunno okay some weird song outside of princes movies. Are there any other movies that Prince wrote songs for? I don't fucking know after. Look this up right now. Well hopefully at this point. Prince has one or march madness bracket and we'll be doing a mini series on the film's Apprentice on. The ballot is on the ballot Caitlyn thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me Thank you for talking feats People SHOULD LISTEN TO BACK. L. Castle though I can't imagine they. They aren't already but they should at they're not appreciated One of the best And you and you have another podcast sludge about how Are fucking healthcare. System is a nightmare. Yes yes they do. Check that out. And that's a fiction. Podcast that's sort of a hypothetical actually where It's largely me dancing on the PODCASTS. Podcast where we just don't know how to talk so we have to only dance into the microphone That's our version of happy feet. Is every penguin mates with another penguin by broadcasting their own. Podcast you find the podcast that matches yours and then one brave penguin doesn't know how to podcast where he just holds a Mike. Up to his feet weird movie. Yeah two hundred dollars insane insane. A very bizarre can't believe it exists next week. Happy and excited so tune in for that Caitlyn. Thanks again for being here. Thank you Social Media. 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New Mix: Big Thief, Serpentwithfeet, Chris Funk, More

All Songs Considered

43:16 min | 4 months ago

New Mix: Big Thief, Serpentwithfeet, Chris Funk, More

"Everybody thanks for listening to also considered we'd like to better understand who's listening and how you're using a podcast so help us out by completing a short anonymous survey at NPR dot org slash podcast survey. That's one word it'll take less than ten minutes in a really helped support the show that's NPR dot org slash podcast survey. Thanks hey it's a fear Eisenberg so what happens when the stars from the shows you love like NBC's parks and Recreation Superstore Hbo Silicon Valley Insecure and Brooklyn nine nine face off Trivia Games on. Npr's asked me another find out by tuning in listen and subscribe from NPR music. It's all songs considered. I'm Bob Boylan. I don't know about you but I found myself working a lot harder and in some ways being more productive than ever not going out to concerts all the time though I miss it. It's been really fun home night. Making music I made an album as I do every February with my band danger painters. We've done it long distance to file sharing for the last thirteen years or so so we're kind of used to being a separate places and making music But then I found myself with some extra time and I did a solo album of cover tunes and in April came around and on my band mates were home and we quote unquote got together once again Long distance of course and recorded another entire album during the making of this album. Kevin Lay. Who are lyricist. Whose I singer his brother passed away from the corona virus. It's terribly sad thing but we all feel kind of fortunate to be able to express our emotions throw art and so much of the music. I've been playing field reflective of our times these days and that goes for this first selection. I'M GONNA play from big thief. It's a song recorded during the sessions for the album two hands. That record came out in October. But the opening words to this song called Love and mine feels just right for right now A look any music from big thief. The song came from the two hands session. Some big fans may have heard this B side to a single. They received in the mail with the release of two hands. One thing really interesting The big thief just recently did and something. I applaud and want you to support. Is they put out an ep a week or so ago of Demos. They put that on band camp and they did that to raise money for their crew. I know we're all in different financial places but it's important to do what we can to support what we love whether it's big thief or whether it's public radio any of your favorite bands your local charity. Please reach out with humor. Two hands support. What you love and do what you can the next piece of music. I'M GONNA play us from an artist without a debut album. That album's coming soon. The artist is Samya and she's put out a string of singles back in twenty one thousand nine hundred including cover of Daniel Johnston's true love will find you. In the end she did. Liz Fares never said this song from Salmiya is an original She's the child of actors and the tune I'm gonNA play is about being disenchanted with that world of movies and television in the song. Listen Phil Line about the stuffed pig. It's a march to the actress. The late Brittany Murphy. The song is called. Is there something in the movies Johnson God to been coke in the Nice thing who snow. So don't start Lena. Skoll a skid steer mark that is there something in the movie better than I love things. That's better than OO K disturbed pig in my a did it and guarded it from song died. Tench live extrordinary again. Something better than last you in life. Because you don't need to. Bellas shore no we're the pirates only European songs and things that I'm scared of so here now your does Lewis and our guy this the movie and also my love. He can kidding. The artist is Samya the song which I'd imagine we'll make a tour. Debut album is called. Is there something in the movies and watch the video for this? Is someone who grew up in the entertainment world She made something really funny in. It's really well done. We'll put that up online at the all songs website. Npr Dot Org. The beautiful voice of Serpent with feet has returned was thoughtful and soulful EP. It's called apparition one apparition appearing on this record is the Debonair Soothsayer in the song. The song is called Psychic. Bernice me with those craft Ohio sleuths. You hit me with shame of those. Crafty sees say sees you speed speed. This is stick kissing her. Pray does this sees a baby. School System has virtue as the music of Joseph. Wise better known as serpent with feet. That Song Psychic is from an EP called apparition now to an artist with about a dozen records to her name but someone we've never covered on all songs considered pets. The TINO is the music of Margaret. Studt she was most active two thousand eight to two thousand twelve in Milwaukee and she gained attention and support and that kind of created internal pressure for her and according to a press release she had a psychotic breakdown at twenty twelve. She's now in Oakland not performing but making records again and I fell in love with a number of songs on this EP. One is called from a window big Sur and the highly recommend that but I thought I'd play something a bit more upbeat here. That's so the opening track on this EP. The called Venus is the one you'll hear. It's a song called a ring for Sappho jobs on Saturday. Real Goods Open Sky Huda see mutate. Sappho older rose gold on my fingers. A poem to my heart symmetry four gentle spearman stern waste so much lease past seven years so fresh so new exchange blues values balanced anchors of female at Bell and all future home is supplied all with my age. Gov those old tight shoes tuna space. Hello why my Music of Peasant Tino from an EP called Venus. Let's take a break. We'll be right back and you're listening to all songs considered from. Npr music this message comes from NPR sponsor. Better help a truly affordable online counselling service fill out a questionnaire online and get matched with a licensed. Counselor bast suited to your mental health needs whether it's depression anxiety or trauma better help will help you. Overcome what stands in the way of your happiness. Learn more better help DOT COM and get ten percent off your first month with Promo code songs. Better help get help anytime anywhere. It's all songs considered. I'm Bob Boylan. I've surely miss going shows and one of the things that often made for a great evening. Is that surprise. That happens when you're knocked out by the opening band this past winter. I went to see the artist Fran an opening for Fran was a philly ban called TASIO. I was floored by the wealth of sounds in the span. The vocals the drones and their influence. I have a real soft spot for Irish English folk music and they tapped into some of that from me less week. Tatsuo sent me a new song. I put it in my random listening pile and when the sauna popped up I was totally enchanted. I'm GonNa let Shayna from the band tell you about this song pint of my blood. A pint of blood was lyrics. I and I wrote if as an affectionate banishing spell for a certain kind of brokenhearted male country vocalist that I grew up identifying with. But I've come to realize is more often beseeching me as female listener to rescue them to forgive them to absolve them and I think we still need these songs. Everyone does Turkey so I needed a counter song so I had these lyrics and I had come over to the house where Ben are based in our producer was living at the time. And there's this beautiful old pump organ and a living room. When I came over he was playing it and I was like hold the phone. Keep doing that. Just keep playing that. I'll sing over it. And there are times when I feel like my bandmates are reading my mind melodic LII and this was one of those kinds This anymore A bunny me. Nothing nothing Order against your own failures but it gives me nothing. Nothing live spring that's tattoo of a singles. Called pint of my blood. It's on an album called that cold grey light so this week it was announced at the Newport folk festival wasn't going to happen kind of a huge disappointment from me. I love going there my son and I enjoy our time. They're great bands and a nice family friendly atmosphere. One of the many stages happen at Newport is often curated by Chris funk Chris Funk of course from the December assists and I also just got a new record by Chris funk and so. I've been thinking about Chris funk lately and decided to call him up have low. They're going good so one of the reasons I wanted to call. You is because I wanNA play a song from new record but I have no idea how to pronounce it. So let's start with this knife e something yeah. I PRONOUNCE IT Nike Villa Set. And what is fellow? Set a lot of these titles on this record said out loud by people and I would write them down and then sort of collage them together because naming an instrumental record. I found really difficult and I take a lot of inspiration in naming instrumental songs from people like John. Fahey who there's some humor in them and some mystery and whatnot. I think that was an an amalgamation of drinks from a clockwork orange so Maloka plus and I think there's a couple on there that are references to fictional cocktails from a clockwork orange. I don't remember who said it and why I must have watched it or something but yeah so I think villa sits an phetamine and maybe I like. I'm saying like bicycle. Like Velo set right so Nike Villarosa. That's how I hear it but it might be something else so a fictional Kubrick. Tell me about this record together because I don't know if it's all you I don't know if it's some friends. Yeah but it's extraordinary journey. I took a long walk with it yesterday and it was just so perfect. Well thanks I. It's a nice soundtrack to the world. Thank you yeah I composed it all? And then there's a a string arranger by name of Kylian king who plays on a ton of albums in arranges for my band of December s and my morning jacket and she toured the Brandi Carlile. But I kinda send stuff to her and have arranged string stuff and then chop it up and move it around a little bit and edited. So she's on it. And there's a couple of drummers John Sherman. The drummer of the band called Red Fang played drums on it and then a guy named Dan Hunt played drums. Also who's a fantastic Portland Drummer? He Tourist Nico Case. And he just really creative. And then Marco Rubio WHO's an idol of Mine Guitar Player Played on one song as well but the rest of it's all myself. Oh and there's a Mug Solo by a guy named Steve Watkins who played with Allan Stone. But the rest is all me stuff in the studio and kind of writing it on the fly working with an engineer. Who JUST KINDA HIT RECORD? And that was the goal is to go in with nothing. Prerecorded can just make some noise and when people would work long distance with you. How a lot of people doing these days? Yep File Exchange. How are you doing this? A lot of those people live in Portland but a lot. Don't as you're suggesting you're correct. Probably Hot Yeah. I just I just said play Acoustic and Electric Guitar and you know that so much fun of making music that can kind of go anyway like you know higher quote unquote hire somebody to do something or ask them to do something and collaborate based on their creativity and not. The expected outcome right. So that's how it is either surprises the fun thing. Yeah and that's you know it's one thing to say like I need you to play F- CNA over the section and this. This project is definitely not that this was about seeing how much further something could go see. Sent him a file. Yep they throw it in their digital works audio workstation and off you go and they'd send it back to you one night and surprise you yep and then do some editing and see where it fits. So who's on this Nike cut that play? That's myself Dan Hunt on the drums and Kylian King on Viola Violin. And all the rest is myself my everything else very cool a one piece with two people over what period of time you work on this thing. It was at the end of of actually twenty eighteen. I did it like over three or four days. Like the primary recordings kind of the composing in the studio. You know just going in and playing Over Christmas it's kind of alone. That Christmas Zeno split up from my wife like four years ago and I have a daughter and it's kind of a bummer time. I still have some high holiday buying it. Seems like there's a lot of Catharsis on there and I think that a lot. That year was pretty rough. I lost some friends my friend Richard Swift passage that year so many so many people died around me and I was like I gotta just make some art just to get through this this month. You know that's why some of the music sound the way it does but there's also some hope in there too and I think this track kind of leans in that a little bit. Thanks for this and since I've still not going to say well tell me the name of the Tomb we're GonNa play I you know The kubrick foundation key hit me up but this is called Nike. Velo set the from my little record the painted Porch Ooh ooh that's Chris. Funk from his instrumental album called the painted porch you heard some pedal steel in that twos lap lap steel to. I want to take us out on this. Sonic adventure done on pedal steel from the artist Luc. Schneider he's a Nashville musician. He can be heard on records by MORTGA price also on a record by Orville wreck. But what Luke Schneider does on. Those records is nothing like what he does on his own album. The album altar of harmony. I'm GonNa play this tune called LEX universum which translates from Latin as law of the universe. Luke Snyder says it's a reference to the concept of Divine Oneness in which everything that exists seen or unseen natural objects consciousness and living. Things are all connected by original divine universal energy. Take a deep breath. Listen and take care of everybody. I'm Bob Boylan for NPR music. It's all songs considered

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S3E11 - Anna Nicole (Featuring Esther Povitsky)

Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?

1:33:56 hr | 2 years ago

S3E11 - Anna Nicole (Featuring Esther Povitsky)

"This episode of mother, Mary people podcast is brought to you apart with a lifetime movie club. The ultimate streaming destination for lifetime. Movie lovers. Choose from one hundred movies at anytime with new movies, rotated in weekly, to keep things fresh and you can watch anywhere on your favorite device as bonus listeners of this podcast, getting exclusive one month free trial, good. A lifetime movie club dot com. Slash mouse start your free month. Now that's lifetime movie club dot com. Slash m. o. l. s.. Welcome to season. Three of mother may. I sleep with podcast Ivanhoe's Molly Makhalira. Welcome. Some higher Texas. My hometown, most people pronounced Mexcio and it's not so hey, and this. Here's that. She can stay ice work. And I. Oh, shoot on. Talk about him. Cut cut. He come. Today we have Esther prevents gauge talk about Anna Nicole. I'm so happy which is like she's a legend and icon. Did you watch the show? I did watch the show. I loved the show. I'm, I mean, I have always been drawn to her. I love her a fan. She's Humaines ov- Asia's and like if you go back and watch like, okay, so this actress, she really did her best. Yeah, and I don't envy the task of like having a take on Anna Nicole because in one movie you are rocking like ten, lifetimes, like young mother, like burgeoning stripper, like at the top of her game. By the way, it's hard enough to play a different person, especially when they're known for being so gorgeous. It's just really hard, and that has to be hard on someone and by the way the actress playing her is gorgeous. I already followed. I followed in scrammed today. I'm a fan. I think her name is. I want to say Agnes, got her name is. Agnes Bruckner. So she I, her instant is private, but I went ahead and smash that follow button and I was accepted and she is going to also be playing Kris Jenner in a movie. Yes. So she is like I'm looking right now at her. So she's the haunting of Nicole Brown Simpson, whichli. Cool. She has children that are still alive by the way America, Nicole Brown. Simpson still children who are alive but like Agnes, highly good, nice little career for herself. She did do this in two thousand thirteen. But since then she returned she was on once upon a time and a recurring role. Like I'm always impressed when sown as like a nice little career going for themselves. Yeah, just kind of a drop in because the chicken played Brittany, which we were gonna maybe talk about done or did it have to go the episode. I'm fascinated by that movie. I did it. So ironic I've done both Brittany as I did Brittany Murphy and Britney Spears and like Bernie Murphy was someone that I was like, she, she. Just aired. I guess we're recording this now Labor Day, Pete behind the curtain you guys, and we're recording his on Labor Day, happily rodeo star to whatever that holiday even fucking man's. Are we supposed to share a million with unions? Is that what it is? That's probably it. Yeah. Why do you health insurance anymore? So I don't really care to you and like summer, like I just feel fat right now summer's been offer me. I did a burger and fries. I'm not feeling myself. I mean, that is Labor Day of me though, but like at a barbecue, I'm ready to say goodbye to summer. Yeah, I need to put her to bed this year. Here's the thing. The the pumpkin spice latte is tech avail this week. So that's my signifier of what season it is up ESL head. I'm just into the culture, the branding, like any kind of specialty drink. I'm here for it, but I don't necessarily get the PSL. Yeah, I would love for like a little small LA coffee shop to make some kind of like organic iced version. Yeah. I'll do a little half pump once in a while. Just the league, throw that in there because like I do my cold brew or here's the real trick. Esther want to know how to get the costs down at Starbucks course. I definitely watching our long YouTube tutorials trying. Okay, so it's like six, twenty five to order an ice cappuccino with four shots. If I'm gonna go for the day, I need four shots. Are you serious? Yeah, that's that's what gets me hard. I do wanna. Starbucks does not have milk, which is a problem for me, but please keep going. Okay. I need milk. You could also bring that in the car. Okay. That's always a mini option little mini milk with you. I've done it. Right. I bet worse. So then you go to you go to Starbucks and you order an ice cappuccino. It's six dollars and twenty five cents. How is that possible assaults on me. I don't feel comfortable with it. I do not consent like in. So what I found out is if you just add four shots over ice or three or whatever. As many shots as you want, and then you say, can you just put a little steamed milk over the ice and it's the same price except cost to ninety five cents. Wait. So are the same drink? What are you asking for when you arrive your? So you for shots? Vice express our three depending on my day, four shots of Espresso over ice at a little mill. Yeah, little steam moan, and it's the same exact drink except it doesn't have the cappuccino label. Hacks for Starbucks drinks are like I fall so many hack accounts. I gram it's so dark, like I could make so much money like if I was just writing or doing something else other than trying to save thirty cents at Starbucks, it's razor time research and like that will go towards something. I don't know what I always say. It's going to Bank for something someday that I'm not sure what, but I knew that I had life really figured out when I did that on my own. And the guys to me like the barista said to me like you've really. Figured it out. Like what you were like game recognize game. Like he really saw that, and I tip a dollar no matter what you know. It's like he's he, we all got what we need this transaction, and he just was like yoga, but also like you're good at us. I'm so turned on right now by that money saving yet. No, it's like literally three dollars and fifty cents a day. That's huge. Just so you'll throw a little pump of PS l. in there. What like once a year. Okay. I'll do a little zone she here. Yeah, like once a year, I don't need a lot of it. I'm not. I prefer the gingerbread when that comes out. Now we're talking molly's game. That's molly's. That's the Romalis game. So here's the deal with Anna Nicole. I'm obsessed with her. I will not lie and say that I was like super familiar with her guests modeling up until Anna Nicole show came out, but when it came out that show hit me like soccer bricks and it was just like, I've needed this. I've wanted this. It was at the peak of and we do see during this movie just for everyone at home. This is not a typical episode. We're probably going to handle this closer to what are many episodes on patriots will be like, but we do see this episode scene of Howard k stern, loved this scene, hitching the show to network executives. He's like, she's fun, but like she has like a kid. I don't know a boy or a girl like cheetahs even really know her or her life. And he's like pitching this loosely to exact as sort of like an Osborne type show. But Anna Nicole is going to be the odds. So the osbournes has been out, which is the tone that was one of my favorite reality shows of all time. The osbournes is fucking amazing. Daily broke open. The celebrity John RA. They made a path for Nick and Jessica conic in an Ecole of course, like this is I think, honestly, probably one of their greatest gifts because the looks that we were given inside Dana, Nicole's life was now that especially we see it in the movie, you kind of see behind the scenes of how it was built on the desparation of Howard wanting it to be a hit. But also Anna's vulnerability. I love how they in that pitch seen how it really clearly showed how scary and hard pitching because he was so nervous. Yes, it was that I respect it. So UC nervous. And what I see there is, I'm like, this is a guy that knows that he has a moneymaker model like at his hands who will do anything. He says, how does one get to that place in life? I mean, there's a very iconic scene and I took a picture of it for my Instagram today because it's just it's so conic, but like Howard. Good. It's to finally like he's going to quit his law firm because he wants to take on Anna Nicole, fulltime. And this is about halfway into the movie when Jay Howard Marshall's like on his last leg he's about to die and who by the way, I found myself very attracted to his generosity and kindness like straight up. I was going to ask you. I was like, would you have a problem with that? Because I don't think I would know now that I've seen it on like they have a real life, they had a real life together. How do you like I'm dying to know how accurate is this? Like I would love to know what was the real relationship between those two. I can really only judge like the accuracy of it based on like, okay, like I worked at Gaza at the time that like she died, our member, Hollywood, Florida, never forget. Put on the map the day that Anna Nicole died and. That all the way the end Plato seemed pretty accurate. Right? And also like the re staging of certain scenes on the reality show, for example, was pretty accurate. Like obviously the absence of Kimmy her assistant who does not wanna be found lake. She really is like the Shelley mich- miscarriage of that whole like, she doesn't want to be found not all. So Kimmy people have on mice base. But yeah, Bill like they did a good recreation of like the reality show scenes. And then also like kind of the way that Daniel died and then she died the the birth of the baby. So I take that into consideration when I kind of like measuring way the first part of her life. And I'm like, well, if they got that part right, then they might have gotten some of this stuff right at is so scienc- I respect what I'm saying. Like I'm just like, I mean, none of us were there and we could never be there. It was free. Internet, you know what I mean? Nineteen ninety four. You're working in a strip club. Intech says like, no one's tweeting that. And I mean, this man was elderly, like she brought like she probably gave him an extra five years of life. Oh yeah. There is nothing about this little trends action that I am mad at. No, like she got paid for it. She just, she wasn't, you know, she got something out of it as it. He very much something totally. I'm obsessed with the prosthetic breasts, her debts. Chris, this is good. So on the show, we often like parse like hair and make up as part of it. We rank that as part of our ranking system which we won't do today, but I didn't understand how they got those fake boobs on her. I googled it. Okay. And so they had like some Oscar winning prosthetic person. Okay. She said she was in like three to four hours a prosthetic apllications every she her call times where to thirty AM. Okay. She was on her shit in there. They're like the world's fanciest prosthetics. I'm imagining if like the sky won an Oscar, has they looked so real? I'm like, how those all I wanted to know how do they do this because they look so real and so big and round. I wish that I could hire that person to give me the prospects for like vacation reveal was shocking. Yes, I didn't know what was going to happen. And I will say that I think Agnes did the work and that her body changed throughout the movie and like very relatable, good way that was honored. Anna's journey. She was always like a curvier model for sure. And like I just, I like, I'm not. I can't. This is why I can't act because I look at something like this and that is a life that you fucking just took on and like to do that for like, I don't know. It's probably two and a half weeks because its lifetime of her of your life. They really feel muse movie movies, two and a half weeks to take on like that much of a journey where like you are a basically a teen mom to now you're working at a strip club and you have gigantic big boobs to. Now you're Anna pre trim spa. You know your post trims by Anna lake. Her body went through journey for this movie. She's basically Matt Damon. I mean, she deserves a damn award. I'll say it. She did and like it's also to play. I think we saw the same thing with the Brittany movie. I don't know if you agree, but like it's hard to please. The one that's I con IQ for being good at some like something very specific. Are you talking Brittany Murphy Britney? Spears spears earthy as well. Brittany Murphy movie well was spears. It's like the the woman detained on basically like nubile sixteen year old dance training, dance camper. Spears's like goes and everyone roasted her for that. And I was. Do you have any idea league as a twenty four year old? Like not even your muscle memories like in the place where you're going to like, remember how to do that? Shit, let alone the actual all of it. So like when you look at this actress and when she was able to do with actually playing the part, but then also kind of like, yes, this is where it's lifetime when you're watching these modeling scenes and you're like, is that good? I don't know. Like is that a very. Is that a very good modeling job only seen an TM, but like I know because of the way that histories and for me that that is good modeling. Do you? How does this compare to a lifetime movie such as the Britney Spears of the Brady Murphy movie to me, I found this one to be a lot higher quality and more enjoyable experience in the Brittany Murphy. It's lake in the spirit. I think of the person. Do you know what I mean? Like I think that actress Brittany Murphy like she got Brittany Murphy is like sort of like, you know, Newark accent, sorta, like SAS down, which I think is very important to understanding that character amber trying her, but. I like. I don't know. I mean, I think it's the spirit of Anna, was there which was that it was very, like she's very lighthearted. You're everything she's been through. Anna was very lighthearted. And silly like CHAI? Yes. And that's where she always like thrived on her reality show was like what she would do a charity event with kids or something. She always like really sorta dug in their play in a way that's concerning to other adults. I think because you're like, what's wrong with you. I was surprised to see in the film how they said that she how she said I wanna baby. I always Sumed that Danny Lynn was a like, yeah. Yeah, no, she liked. I mean, she wakes up Howard k stern in the middle of the night on a couch bed to me that child, but she didn't know her entire density. We learn from the very beginning, all sorts of Maha attack says, which I always want to journey to every time I go to Texas. Magin well. That's why I don't is because I kinda can. And like I feel like it would be very disappointing and very, very dislike. We see for he's very humble roots. She was born with single mom. We find out right away that that cousin of hers that it's an every interview ever that when you go back and watch the like she or whatever. Yeah, her cousin was actually living with them. It was like being from what we understand from the movie, like sorta like felt up by a series of her mom's boyfriends and got her break. It's heartbreaking. And like, especially when you think about like how Anna Nicole, like found such like solace and sort of like sexualizing herself and like what a comfortable role that was for her. And like as you really thrived in it, it's like well, like, no, like no wonder like you because you watch some of these scenes in this movie where she's like stripping or doing whatever. She's really feeling it like from what you can understand an audience member. And I think that's a common story that you hear from women who become performers in any sense. It's like, oh, I saw the magazines under my dad's bed. And you know, like I just, I feel like that is that I conduct beginning to this career path totally. And like that's also like a time capsule moment to as that it's special because you get to see like what playboy meant to women of different generation. And I respect like how many women I even just like, no, that like got themselves out of situations by like by following their dreams and getting into playboy and like what led them to. Yeah, and so we really see within an Ecole from a very young age. And this movie uses a great gimmick of sort of like talking Vicki Lynn is how big Ulan HOGAN, like she is spoken to by future in an. Nicole Smith like throughout the entire movie. And she starts very young lay. Just knowing that if she can be like grownup, sort of like sexy, Marilyn Monroe type character. She's going to be okay. You seem to like this convention or whatever this I hated this. I'm like this. I didn't know. I mean, I I like had to get involved because at a certain point you're like, okay, well, this is what they've decided to do. I only like it. 'cause I'm like, okay, I think if Anna watch this movie, she'd be like, I like that. You know what I mean? I, that's not how I like love to consume a character, but I feel you. Yeah, like I just didn't need it. I don't think it added much to the story for me. I understood that she was longing for more. You know she wanted to become this glamorous woman. I didn't really need to St. like the pretty girl the dress talked to her. I know it seems like from a troll, first of all, it seems like a huge troll. My friend Choi was always like, we both love and. And we, we watch potsy footage like we'll send each other videos all the time of just like how she just like loved a pop Razzi so much. And we started talking about this movie and he's like, I just feel so trolled by this like narrative. And I was like, but I feel like for Anna, the reason why this makes sense because she pulled herself out from being like, you know, she got pregnant really young against the advice of everyone in her life. Specifically her mother like there's obviously some daddy issues that are like generations. It goes back generations and she kindly pulled herself out of this thing with like a dream and like how do you like depict that drive when that drive is actually like kind of a sexualize male gays driven symbol in the mirror. Yeah, you know like how else would you do it? And like these movies are one hundred twenty seven minutes. They don't fuck around with time like they have a, they have a budget on time. And so I kind of like, okay, I guess I can see this for her. Like if they did it with Brittany Murphy, I would have been really weirded out. Right? I'd be like Brittany Murphy. Never thought like that, but Anna's all image and it worked for her in a way, I guess you right. I'm so curious about Danny Lynn. It just drives me bonkers. She has the same. I condition as me. She's lazy eye business, and I think she, I think she's getting her surgeries because I had two surgeries done when I was a kid to reverse at, but she has. She was born with the same like lazy. I thing as me to the surgeries, fix it kind of. I mean, when I'm drunk tireder sad like it comes out and people will be like, oh yeah, I did it want to say anything. I thought it was like cute though, and I'm like. Okay. Like I I can't. I don't know if it's happening. I don't know if my is being lazy but like I will catch it. Sometimes like self is hard. Sell fees are hard, what makes them hard? Because I don't know where to put my eyes. My Mike co-star Benji alone together. Has that same conditions to resume? Did he do the surgeries? I don't believe he did actually. Yeah. See, I I in college didn't do it, and so I always felt like I was looking at like, okay, this is the parallel of if I hadn't gone through this. Jury's and like as a chick, I was grateful because I was like, I'm a girl like, I don't want to like you don't eat anything else going against you. You know what he me and like races to like, I don't need. I don't need anything else going against me with like a guy like maybe I could have worked that, you know it'd be like fun and quirky, so unfair. I know, but it's true with a guy. It's kind of like endearing like Andy Cohen, rocks that seriously I, oh, he has a lease even know. Yeah. Yeah, it's like kind of a conic like the speaking of conic though. Let's get back into the movie. One thing about the movie that I loved was when they were the reality show producer. I think he was talking to Howard or somebody, but he hit. Over the head which was great. Heavy ended writing loved it. Like America wants to see this amazing star doing the quirky, normal things like, yes, that is. That is why the show was a success. Why loved it? Osbourne's was great. Thank you for spelling it out. I guess it also like the double talk that existed around her too because we did want that. But then like you also saw that I con IX of her carrying Jay Howard Marshall's like earn into the house and like the way that played on TV and like to see kind of like the off camera Anna be like, I don't know. Like this seems like really like cartoonish like for me to deliver the earned my new house. Do you think that that was real? I think it was real. 'cause I mean, that was a real scene where she carries in her and like I could see her Daniel. I mean, Daniel, the voice of reason throughout this whole movie. Her son who she did everything for like it all sort of like she really was propelled into fame by like wanting to support Daniel. He was like, mom, this is weird. Like, why are you doing this? And that I believe that kid was so weirded out to be on television and like not a huge surprise looking back, like as terrible as it is. It wasn't surprised at the time that that's how he passed was like kind of just like helping himself to his mom's drugs a little bit. Till you find yourself getting angry at our society that we like, let this happen to this family that deserves so much better. Yeah. I mean, it's well. It's a socioeconomic situation where she was a single mom that like her, basically her only yes, there's curve balls in there. She was gorgeous one of a kind like an amazing personality, and then also a kind of gotten because of all of that brought into like a larger in life larger than life situation with her ex husband and her deceased husband. But like that was all done because she was in an abusive relationship and then rejected by her mom for any sort of like extra help. And so like in that way, I feel he gets like very much like a statement about what single moms kind of go through and like, you know, everything she did when she looked back on her life when you saw the sort of flashbacks of like what she was really happy about in her life, it all sort of came back to the simple times. Daniel, unlike I think my mom would probably do the same thing about raising me which is like worked really hard as a single mom. But like alternately, everything I did was to like keep you young and not worried about certain things, but let's talk about some more pivotal moments for you because I think the reality show moment. That was I for me, that was real. That was very real. And also do you remember the eating seen as well, which eating the eating contest that there was like the second they may film for the show, which in the movie was them eating pizza, but it really, I think they were eating Mexican food, right? And like Anna won the eating contest, and it was Anna Daniel Howard and Kimmy and Anna won the contest and Howard stirred to be a little bit of a sore loser about it on camera and leg accuser of cheating, which like when you're dealing with someone who has been flaked feds Xanax, basically, as a first case scenario, like since she has learned how to perform, she's only fucked up and she's like, I didn't cheat. And you know she has the mentality of fourteen year old or something, and she takes she like it was a big fight on the show where she threw a fit about not not. Heating in the eating contest, and we see the reality of it, which I think people who are on the camera crew of set forward and confirm sense, which is that she went to the bathroom and threw up, and that was what the big fight on the show was about was whether or not she went to the bathroom to like actually p like she said, she had to pay you or like if she went to go puke bullied winning and eating contest, like meant that much are that is just of all the things in that movie about her life. One I don't relate to, you wouldn't go puke after an eating on just wouldn't care that much like what are the stakes y? I know I wonder if it's maybe like she's like for the laughs. I think our brain is frozen. Like if I guess like she's probably incredibly stunted like surrounding a certain period of her life and like, yeah, she's also an entertainer. So maybe it was just like she thought it'd be funny to win or I don't know. Yeah. Like also like if you have to go through a scene where you're bringing. You're dead. Husbands earn like, you want the win. Do you know what I mean? You're like, okay, I'll film that scene. But like I leased, it's the an-and Ecole show like I have to win the eating contest and I get Sears sorta like painting that narrative and sticking to it. Whereas I can't imagine that anyone else there wanted another outcome, but for her to win. Right. You know what I mean? So like she does have an interesting scenario where she is consistently lay surrounded herself with the wrong. People won't go back to what we were saying. The beginning, which is how Howard came into her life. And the second that Howard k stern is on screen. Like he goes to the major d of some restaurant, and he says, like, I need a private table meeting Anna Nicole Smith, like I can't have is on me. We like. She's actually already here and like Anna's in the center of the dining room and full hair make up drinking a MARTINI and she's like waving proudly and Howard's as I've decided to leave my because this is we're like an is. Like whole contract, their agency was up and like her getting representation was really hard because she's been fired as being a guest model for some of our other behavior and Howard says like, oh, I have to like I have to probably leave my law firm, but I want to dedicate my life to being like the propeller for your career. And Anna, I think consistently surrounded herself with the wrong people. We saw that like when she lost the guest contract, it was because she went to a NASCAR event with her best friend. I think whoever this woman was, we never really got into it. But this girl in her, this woman, her got really, really drunk at an Oscar event. They send Dan back to the hotel and her are Anna's move was dropping pills into a drink, which I thought was wildly. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, maybe brings back some sort of lake Hefner ask situation where it's like back in the day. We used just put quails in the Martinez and we'd be fine. But that's really unconventional. And even if you're going to be a real drug addict, probably lazy way to take in your least officiant way, but they got really, really wasted. And she and her friend came back to the towel and they were just like they were very, very drunk and they get into the lobby. Her friend lay kind of cheers her on as she flashes a bunch of guys. And then a very lake pretty infamous clip came out of her and her friend in like a glass elevator like making out and like basically hooking up in a hotel helluva ter- and this was tried to use against her in terms of her marriage j. our Marshall, but also really kind of rocked her relationship with Daniel where he like kinda thought his mom was gonna come home from the end of her day, and she's half naked in elevator with like what he thought was like her platonic FRANZ. I. I didn't love how like that. They showed Daniel betrayed by her kissing the woman, and I'm like, well, why is that is? Is it just that she's clearly drunk and acting wild, but I'm like, well, if your mom's a little bit gay. Like that's not so bad, right? It's like the BI phobia didn't help like that other part of it. The only thing I would say that the story had going forward in terms of like maybe, okay, I can see the condensed version. You just needed to see him, be disciplined, waiting for his mom, and then like she's shit faced in an elevator doing something. You don't understand intellectually, but he always looked very uncomfortable, whatever they did with the young actor like they were able to explain to him. You are uncomfortable by your mom sexuality that she doesn't mind displaying in front of you and it's always in your face and like what? Truly what? An uncomfortable thing yet. Dan. Daniel throughout the film was always pretty sad. Pretty disappointed. Yeah, that was good. Ardabil. Arbiter, go like, you know, you're at this NASCAR event like earlier in the event, if we're going to talk about him at the same age, like he's looking at all these guys, they kinda like Ogle. His mom's jogs like at this NASCAR event and he's like, you know, ten years old like old enough to kind of understand, but not old enough to really understand. And even if you did really understand, I don't know where you're supposed to put that information someone's child, but like. It really just like was Daniel did not have it easy man. Oh God. But at the same time, like everything she did was for him, she just also didn't have the proper emotional training will be like a real mom. It's hard to say, yes, it seems like he motivated her to work harder to make money and all that. But she clearly got caught up in partying and drugs and having fun. I mean, it's so evident in that scene where she does send him. He's like, I want to if she was really like with it and for him, she okay right away. Let's go home. We're going home at such driver. Can you take Daniel home? She's totally. She's just gone right with the partying and the drinking. He's not that good Hollywood single mom which exists totally fully exists. It's like, okay, the show's over like I'm gonna go home. Like there was a little bit like to the perks of fame? Yeah, like she really indulged and some people are there. They take their appearance fee and they get out. You know, but she's really, she's partying. She's there for the open bar which I have to say like part of me, yes. I love that for Anna Belykh. Also seeing what everything did to her. The year. Lindor. For me. Come on. Let's go Shawn time. How. Though to thanks. He was standing. We want to start with today. Mom. Feddans. Loose and put those down. See what you do when you do. These would happens. You want me to be like that. Why do more of them tomorrow? Ten. Give me. Give me give pills. Danny, give me the pill. You suck at being mama mama. So it's all how isn't it? Every time you puke your guts out, you say that. One of my favorite ways to watch lifetime movies is on the lifetime movie club streaming one hundred lifetime movies, anywhere anytime. 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It was between it was between the show and then trim spa, which makes sense something had to happen there and she went to Betty Ford, and that's where she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and treated her diction, and she did seem to do so Brian on and off throughout the years. Like that always seemed to be a something. There was no dialogue around for growing up 'cause she was, you know, as long as we're in the movie, we see the behavior of adult addicts like around her, but no conversation about, you know, everything's about sorta like, you know, don't go out with makeup on, but it's not like don't go with makeup on, but like also maybe should just devoid alcohol or something dot history of that. In the family, which is why feel like that's you kind of like this is like a sad socioeconomic tail in a way because it's like she didn't education or understanding of her upbringing that I think a lot of people who are that other type of Hollywood mom that were discussing not to lump people into categories, but like they usually have that knowledge that she didn't have, which is like, this is a temporary thing. You got to save your money you. This isn't about, you know, chasing fame and like, you know, pop bottles when you can. And like we saw from the very beginning. I guess the beginning of her real fame, she got her photos taken for playboy by like a customer at the strip club. It was the same customer that was about to leave the table the first time she came out without fake titties and this guy like followed her throughout her life and Daniel knew of him as like a guy from the strip club too. So when we see them at sorta the gala where she's introduced, Jay Howard Marshall's like sons and you know, the, the society basically on this, this ran of refer guy is like in the mix, which is a little bit shocking, but also very true to Anna. She always kept bad people around her and that is that was the death of her. And it also was like, it gave her her start and it's by the way. So fricking common because people in Anna's position, you know, they just don't know any better. And if someone comes along and they say the right things with the smooth talker, you know, you're just if you want. The attention new you want someone who's just going to be focusing on you. You'll take what you get totally take, who's around. I see this time and time. Again, I've known other people who have been on reality shows and I'm telling you the always have a few weird hanger honors where you just don't quite understand. It's not adding up and you're like almost wanna intervene, but it's not your place and who's supposed to be her guide to like no one in her life of this. There is no, like we're going to get Anna famous sort of thing. We're gonna make Vicki Lynn into Anna Nicole. There was doing that at least until our came came in, but then this scene. So there's a scene where Howard is like they're at a pool party of some sort Howard's talking to some producer who's got a script Howard's keister. Yes. How stern and he's like, Anna, come over here. We're going to make this movie. You're going to be in the skies movie and they're talking about the movie, and it sounds obviously so frigging stupid head on like screaming my computer screen, I'm like, no, like Anna just needed the right. Person to guide her. And so she's got Howard k stern, like talking to some shady producer, wrote some move. It sounds terrible. Like imagine if Anna had hooked up with not. You know, sexually, just like very hooked yourself along to someone who was actually going to be like, here's this good script. We're going to get you acting lessons like you're going to the next. Marilyn Monroe it. It's all about those people you surround yourself with, right? Unlucky, like things do not end up well, well, I mean the irony of it all is that like and actually outlasted Marilyn Monroe by a good twenty years. And like I think that part of that is like I mean, in that case, she liked out, but it's like, you know her entire Eddie success. She had it any turn was because she was a sexualize being like even the guest campaign, like maybe that guy who's running that, maybe he could have been the good guy here, but like he hired her because guess is notoriously known. They write are bad people. Yeah. And like his whole like purpose for hiring are was like that was. The girls that I like drunk out when I was fourteen. And so every person who's ever moved her forward in life, it was because of her sexual appeal and like Howard seen as such a drip because he's like, he's literally looks. I mean, that was the night that she signed him and they go to a pool party and like he's in the pool with somebody suspicious producer type that saying is a movie for her that apparently j. our Marshall to finance by the way, like do member during the funeral scenes worried that the movies aren't gonna get made. But yeah, like it's every every league step forward she had was because of the sexualization, but there was never liked the intelligence behind it like and I don't mean that about her in a mean way. I mean, like no one, there was never any. There was never any like manager who's like here stick with me right. Say, you know, like I your good person with a good heart right in your of all these other things. And it's just like fumbling through the world and whoever sees her in his drawn to. Her and wants to do this thing because of the way she looks like, yes, she, she's just a victim of her own good looks right people who are preying on that. And so then like we go to like, go back to that scene like a few moments ago where you know, Anna has this like big party where she sort of introduces -ociety and she's really nervous because Jay Howard Marshall's kids are being like fucking pricks to her, which like I see both sides like, yeah, if I was his kids, I'd be terrified because it is true. Like I've seen so many families just like we're the new girlfriend, sorta like walks away with the fortune. And it's not even like a wife. It's like just some girlfriend walks away with the fortune and. He's being approved to her, and he really kept that up for the entirety of her life. He's clearly the villain in this movie. Totally. But like the second that she, you know, starts to get really nervous. She goes into the bathroom and she's like cornered by her old friend from the strip club to toe pictures of her and said, I just got a call from playboy. And so we go into this wild scene where she's blowing rails off the center console of a convertible and like drinking bourbon behind the wheel, which is a very Texas for it's reminds me of just like Reagan's like tossing. Did you for any lights just like tossing beer, cans out while he drives them Texas, there's long stretches of road like no one's gonna catch Yale, like sorta like it's like these long Texas roads like you're never gonna get caught. And she winds up getting into a really bad accident and we don't see that guy again, but we do see him get her all the way to the place where she's arrested and she comes limping out of the jailhouse the next day, like in her sequined dress like a broken foot and. And Daniels, like what happened to your car? And like, no one is asking really what happened. Jared, Marshall kind of doesn't wanna know like what happened and like his sort of advisor that even was the person that brought him to the strip club in the first place as Dr like what happened here from unless night. And she was like, you hush your mouth and it like I, it's very easy to see how this happens like it really is. It's like it's almost like it was her destiny. Like there's some people that are a little too special for like this world in a way. And like I do feel like she had challenges presented themselves and like we got everything that we could out of Anna Nicole. But I just feel bad because my who was taking care of her yet. No, see, this is where I disagree and I'm like, I, I, you're right. She's to special for this world, but I I wished like what could have been right? I would love to see where in is today, like she going live on periscope, like I just feel like there's so. So much potential there. Everyone is being robbed of it including her and it is just because drugs and alcohol. Like I hate to be that fucking square ass who's blaming it, but it is. It's like drugs, alcohol, take people's lives. They take them away from us. Yeah, it's a real disease, right? Like I don't know the exact cause of death, but I'm a, it was a combination. It was like a lethal combination of pills like she and Daniel basically died of like the same. Basically, they were popping pills out of mom's purse, like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, like I'm not gonna lie. Like when I was twenty three at my head's Zanling around the house. Like I'd go home for Christmas, take Zan and not talk to my family for two days, and it was tight like within, like thinking about, like mom, just having like a roving, like just like bag of painkillers and uppers downers and like, you know, she's taken some and you're taking and like neither of you have like a a good doctor on your side. So there's that there's. Really lots of people prescribing same with like Michael Jackson, where there was like four doctors that were in the mix, but then also like no conversation around. Okay. Like if you mix this pill with those and you have alcohol like you could potentially have a seizure, you could die where, you know like I won't even take an antidepressant without knowing like what my parameters are refers something. Yeah, and her taking, you know, like controlled substances like stuff that you can't get without putting your idea on the counter. And it was, I think, Oxy's and like Xanax. And it was definitely painkiller heavy. He was opiate hubby. Okay. Which is like an eye that was also like suspicious because you know, Anna, Anna son died who we did not know publicly in any way how to drug problem. And that's something we definitely would have known about if it was like super hardcore prevalent. I think they do a little like service to that in the movie where they kind of like have anesthesia Daniel after Anna gates. Very, very drunk. When she's pregnant with Danny land. She goes into the hospital and she says, I'm worried about maybe and she knows she's pregnant and she's been very, she's been drinking hard. And Daniel comes end. He's like, hey, mom, or you cool like what's going on. And she's like, I, she's like, what's going on with you? Though? League, your pupils are weird and she's like fixated on his eyes and he's like, get off me like, don't even worry about me. You're in the hospital from drinking while you're pregnant. And so he dies two days. Before his mom died. I think. It was a Danny Lynn was born in forty, eight hours. Daniel died a good like forty eight or maybe seventy two hours after that Anna died. That is wild. And they died with like the same combo drugs in their systems. So like a lot of people automatically to the shadiest motherfucker in any room Howard case starring and they were not looking good for him. Yeah, they're like, did you give them pill? Did you give Daniel pills like shut up basically because like the whole game with Daniel, we saw this this show and I, this is probably did not help our case turns case in any way was out like the game was always like shut Daniel up, you know, just like keep him happy like it was always on the reality show like her being like I left a check out for pizza like you have your video games and like that was it's like a normal mom. But your mom's also Anna Nicole, and she's talked up and. I feel bad. He was only twenty twenty or twenty one when he died young or a bowl, he, you know, I don't know anything about the kid like, who knows it was into pro. He had such a horrible fucked up life from the damn star like us never had a chance. And it's it's really sad. And you know, there is nothing wrong with, you know, wanting to keep your kid quiet like just in general to me, that's how like you know, to certain extent I grew up, it's like, yeah, the parents want do their own thing. Here's some money gets pizza. Like shut up. That's not so bad, but it obviously just things were to an extreme in every way for him. Right. And then like the other like difference is the forgoing to draw parallel to like the show's over happening at that time like Ozzy Osbourne has an oldest daughter who never appeared on the show and she has her own life and like Daniel when he said, you know, I kinda wanted to not be really on camera. They were like, well, we sold this show because you're a family unit. So we get involved. He didn't have a choice. You didn't? Yeah, there was no choice and like in the stakes were also like, are we going to eat or not? 'cause the network had put them in a new home, like we saw right away when the show ended, you know, an-and home or in a two bedroom home or two bedroom apartment that like her chores, the day were done at noon, and she knew that she was about to be an empty nester. Daniel was going to graduate sooner rather than later and move on. And that's a big reason why she got pregnant was she wanted that young life and her life, but like it's sad, it's very, very sad. It's very sad, like it's just very sad. I feel bad for the Ken because you're right. We actually when you say that we don't know anything. I don't know anything about Daniel. All I know is that like one clip, I saw him playing like probably like doom or whatever that what was it a computer game called doom. It was like one of the first computer games that people were like, this is bad for kids. He's playing like some PC like shooter game based. Maybe somebody thought it was like it was very like dark. We only saw three seconds of Daniel actually didn't as personal time, and we all know if anyone in America you ask them who's Daniel Smith or whatever's lasting was like, what does he look what we all know what that guy looks like. We've all countless times. He's just like this person that had to be an excessive Ye to the one of the most famous women in the country of our time. Like, yeah, he just and it's demented to never be like free of the idea of your mom being actualized. Yeah. Like who would be the equivalent of that today? I know Pam Anderson has sons and they seem like they have their own life by no means or they in the spotlight. I don't know what they look like. You know, and Hurley sort of like playboy days were over a little bit when they write the pictures. So it's like, who is? I mean, you know, Cam has been elevated selects she doesn't count because she's been elevated, like I mean in terms of being in the trenches, like Biegel literal one year old, babe. While your mom is going, I like, you know, stripping gig basically being pushed onto a national spotlight in such as the is way. Also, just because like the j Howard Marshall of it, all like it didn't look good. The optics were not great there. Yeah. And so like the the only other way America knows your face besides, oh, your mom is the hot chick is like your hot. Lecherous as well. Yeah, she married an eighty four year old man or whatever. Like it's it's the classic. I hate the term gold digger because I think it's so negative and like anti women, but also like, got it. Like I have no true golddigger like that chick on ninety fiance. Do you watch that show? There's one chick on there. I don't keep up with that. But Laker whole thing is basically, I came to America's, you buy me like Birkin bags and you're not doing that. And I'm fucking out. And unlike there's noth- like she has stated her intention. That's great. Like Anna's, not like that, but like she also did you know she knew how to say I was promised a certain thing, and j I would Marshall lead with that. Like when he said, you know, if you accept this horse like and you say, thank you like I also want to give you the keys to the castle sort of and she was apprised by that, but then also a grew to take his word and like if we are not good for our word, what are we good for? We're gonna look at her being simple and I'm just like that is very sweet that she took that at face value. I'm so sick of the Anti-female narrative. It's like, you can't want nice things. You're not allowed your gold digger. You're white trash. It's like, no, that's you're wrong. You're an eagle woman. Hater like we're all allowed. We are all free to do and want whatever we want in this world as long as we're not breaking the law and hurting people. I agree with that. Like I'm waiting for my next serious. Serious relationship where I'm like, this is I only wear gold jewelry. Don't fuck with me on that. And then he's like your superficial. So I could be like, you don't get me, we're done. Yeah, you know. And I all the time with it used to be earlier, like the relationship with my boyfriend where I love makeup, I will never have enough makeup. I will always buy makeup, shoot. I love putting it on. I love collecting it. It's so much fun and watch makeup videos. And my boyfriend would be like it's riding. Brain, what are you doing? You don't need to make up and I'm like, I've just come to realize like you don't get it. That's okay. Makeup for me is not this thing that takes me down and makes me feel bad about myself. No, it's empowering. It's a hobby. I love it. It's it is something that I love. There's nothing wrong with that. No man is going to tell me that that's a problem. I don't think I've ever really seen you love this. I have some on right now. Look, I'm, you know, whatever since I turned thirty, I'm I'm putting pound Asian on like pretty much every day. Okay. Okay. Foundation mascara blush a little lip. Do very well. Thank you. You know what I mean? Like I would. I had no idea you had