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It's Bristol Baby

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

42:06 min | 1 year ago

It's Bristol Baby

"It's a shipping container a multi multi-location endeavor today as boys are still up in Bristol on just here Miami Chris Roy and bill a day one in Bristol Connecticut Oh man be town is like any other man it is like it is not like any other if it was like any other that would be tyler hero in the Miami Heat this preseason I am so guilty of hyping teams up before the season you've seen it with the Miami Hurricanes and you've seen it with the Cleveland Browns Sean Dini that the Miami Heat feel like they have drafted Klay Thompson and he would be constant Vini saying that shot the Sean Dini us nap he's an game average in a Miami he preseason since Lebron James I'm on my dad meanwhile anonymous NBA genes are telling untouchable even in trade discussions with one Bradley beal and another thing that I'm proud of is I have known now for close to forty eight hours though in general the man you've become in front of my eyes I'm proud because we've been rational about there's that Bradley beal liked tweet that had him in Miami and we didn't do anything with that you know why cautious optimism yes but today the person's backs our back to like the original place where we're supposed to be so we have two mikes and we're sharing today you need to get closer if you're sharing though is right be a writer for heavy DOT COM probably should've added that a little bit more but there are reports at the Miami Heat consider tyler hero and the Miami Heat it's been pretty quiet meanwhile tyler hero is currently sporting the highest points does yesterday probably till about like four thirty five we were you know walking around shaking hands kissing babies no babies they weren't but a bonus of just getting back to last night I'm not gonNA name drop but man that that bar that we were at that is a WHO's who of ESPN in the hotel. In Chris down a Mike what happened on the Mike well because yesterday we were we were using someone studio that was out for the day so we were really into studios yeah yeah I mean like I said there's no other place to go in the town so that's where people go like I watch the end of that baseball game and a couple of feet to my left was someone that I'm not gonNA say their name but Jerry two weeks if I could be honest good wings but you know this menu swings in the country and I'm just like all right you know it's solid conscious optimism because this is a different program than the Miami Hurricanes and the Cleveland Browns this is a championship culture this guy to all my God we got the great shooter of his generation that I'm GonNa be I on this I think he's GonNa be decent now that honestly really proud of us because everyone would expect us to just be head over heels in love with tyler hero and talk about him every day and we've actually been relatively quiet you know I think day one was a success the show is fun I got to go through the Catholic Multiple Times because I got my computer worked on and that's like in the CAF so I was like a sock and like it's pretty it's pretty gross talk louder like this should I do this that works all right can I start this is not expected I'm really excited about tyler hero has that been like giving yet by any fan I think he twitter has come around from the draft night disappointment of who the hell is issues that I love so this is the Mike I was talking yesterday so that makes sense I also don't want to get too close to it because like some people get like not I'm not saying crisp like some people like right up on the Mike parting can I go midway here through the first segment of the local hour just say that I'm really proud of us and me in particular the Produ- you to do you know why and we haven't been those guilty parties that have been culpable on the hyping up of tyler hero who generally like plays the most in preseason games isn't it usually the Miami Heat Front office that was allegedly washed this team's GonNa play hard every night and you saw George Sodano made this point last week ah yeah pretty close can you Mussa levels I don't know why Billy Solo I actually that you should lose my levels because I got a few tweets yesterday that before we went on air that I was low that like the whole podcast remits guys unbelievable the first fourteen points of their last game I yeah I really do have high expectations and guys like you know so I feel like the points per game like in a preseason game is not the best barometer but he's been great like just like wetness in like the slickness of his pullbacks has been lane don't get me wrong once again this is like the crow that discussion wings but if you're gonNA come at me with best wings in the country then I just better be wowed how long were you how long were you on and now for this Miami Heat higher than I did entering the season knowing that we just added a top fifteen player with zero cap room credit lead the NBA in wetness yes and the NBA preseason is different they drippy they they do play the veterans in the NBA. preseason they skip games ah I feel like we have I feel like to your are you making the argument like you're proud of us that we haven't hyped him up too much like I think we haven't had him up enough yeah I'm saying that's why I'm maybe baby yeah that's the only thing to do their in town I've never heard it referred to as be ten trying to make that takeoff that's the locals are calling it and we went to J. Tim's whatever unlike more more so than his just like you know points per so I'm glad you mentioned his wetness because I searched a NBA dot com and they have sort of stats and he doesn't he you saw what Eric's bolstered did when he had a top fifteen player even before the Big Three era when he just had wing wait surrounded by a relative house like wow I'm sitting watching the same game this person yeah yeah it does billy of his microphone on or is he purposely speaking mike now we're down on Mike today so I'm sure that's what Columbus Day and Canadian thanksgiving is the NHL and they stormed back from a four one deficit to win six four basically a laugher against winless New Jersey devils team and right now the season is back on track Roy Bellamy all right now I was I was in the airport looking at my phone the entire time really bad team that was a four seed in the NBA. I think the same is going to play hard every night I think they're going to get some huge results on the road when you went an ex coaching it and I saw that Jimmy Butler was saying that he talks a lot of trash during the practices and stuff like that backed it I think they're going to be a regular season monster in the eastern conference and perhaps my expectations top three seed and it wouldn't surprise me in the League East if this team makes a legitimate run at the top seed in the East I said that we go hyped up what did what did heavy dot com say about are there but they get a good latte they were going to good lather about twenty five to twenty eight minutes a game tyler heroes just like Dude scoring twenty five points and twenty within the US is at its best as a counterattacking underdog that's when they could go toe to toe with almost anybody in the world and out here losing to Canada for the for some of my lifetime you really zooming because it was his first media days nineteen years old and he's not used to doing stuff like that but he seemed really like calm down to Earth when we were talking to him but apparently I guess when he's playing Bass one on Columbus Day which everyone knows is basically Thanksgiving to the NFL bats what Columbus Day is so the NHL Will Martin Luther King Day is NBA that really quick back to back yeah yeah that was amazing good job and the United States lost Canada in soccer and men's soccer for the first time in thirty four years there's something happened last night that I've never experienced in my entire life and the nation's largest just okay we'll get him next time there should be like it should be on get up and apparently he does like he he draws back and forth with people so I guess while he's playing he's doing that belief in person he was like very calm he seemed I mean it's obviously that goal like the fact that it was scoreless and did you see Chris Cody Christian Pulisic Gregg Berhalter the manager got into it a little bit I saw I didn't like I saw I read about it Taylor twelve and should be leading get up today but is a national outrage that this is happening considering that they just missed the World Cup and we dilly-dallied sick off of off the field in the sixty first minute telling him he's not good enough yeah that's that's insane did y'all see Jalen more like Jalen Ramsey my right a year and a half trying to find a manager and these are the results that we're getting now up here be town were kinda close to New York so I could make a call and try to get you alive hit Greg with two guys out here trying to play like Barcelona and its heyday and you've got you know mls players doing you're not going to go toe to toe okay then he's so good looking this guy you know what's funny about him or like my impression of him so like I was reading about him before we had him on a little bit re other people because this is exactly how it went down were sitting there and Roy you know we're having Nice heartfelt conversation and where it goes you know then it just like always a different person now you know he was he was chill chill that's what he was we didn't even talk about the ice cats and their epic comeback from down four now Pulisic didn't play well he only completed completed eleven passes he was turning the ball over at pretty alarming rate but who the hell is Gregg Berhalter to pull Greg Christian and get up would you like me to do that no I think Taylor twelve minutes speaks for a nation he was on that game and he started losing it like ten minutes left after candidate scored thing that I saw highlights like pop up my phone for that as well and I hadn't even really heard of that Kinda guy and it's like he got a goal and then I saw the alert again I'm like does that make getting the same alert and he just scored is it is it factor that in reported that won't tell you this first hand he's got it in his day standing it goes to search twitter to see what's happening and he's like other people have done this already and then he's having this conversation like with us is this important enough to tweet should I tweet really have embraced this whole like parakeet moniker and like nickname and like he's really leaning into it has become a parakeet disamenities like going back and forth like I guess what would normally be a conversation he has in his head he's having allowed with us in this restaurant and while all this is going on the waiters their way we had dinner I got around eight eight okay around around eight I need to I need identify when you thought of it this is no it definitely was done Kenny normally been working on that like really trying to go hard like he keeps saying Jalen Ramsey and then he went and who was that they saw he waiting for our order and he's like why don't you see if you want to eat is important enough to tweet and tweet that seven fifty Katie Nolan tweeted thirty four Oh parakeet takes the win how does this work by the way because I I knew Ryan Cortez before he was Eric but he seems did you see it yeah we're looking at his eyes like God he's actually better looking in person than I thought I needed to stop with this like he's so good looking I was do this like it's not too much no you don't like Jalen Ramsey ooh seven fifty now i WanNa see who got to a first Ramseyer parakeet 'cause like he he tweeted out Jalen Ramsey is and I would think something like big is coming like something profound and like you know we've been bonding and then he goes Jalen Ramsey has been traded and we're like what like what source before you know before you answer that Lorenzo just walked Ono's in a full suit and tie is it possible and now they just came back from that from that deficit I was like Oh that was amazing I thought I'd Break Connolly guys first and second goal is the panther and good I was I was actually watching that's honestly it's so it's bizarre right because I feel like this is something that's worth a national outrage redoing like in the bottom yeah honestly my biggest hope for changing the perception is soccer in this country is taken this have to do with what we're talking about right now I was pro then so then Chris goes where do you get traded to enroll goes Jacksonville. Wait no Jacksonville losing to Canada for the first time in my lifetime and hiring the wrong choice right right and the only way you bring about change if an entire nation is angry he had seen other people had said it when you think of it as soon as it happened I you know I'm you time when did we see that Roy announced when we were at dinner let's play with another doll we can just bury deep in the growth happy gyco wing download the industry-leading Geico app today as they should have been in missing out the World Cup and the only thing that seemed to register was Taylor Wellman in this day of media and hot take it we'll Lorenzo an aspiring executive. I guess my doc is dead first time in my lifetime the they need a fire this manager Greg with two GS thing it's it's it's it's not this ain't it man with happening right now so then he he's like no no no no schrader from Jacksonville to the ran's and Chris's like Rams Rams Jalen Ramsey Brand Jalen rans and then he immediately it anymore and yeah I let's Save Lebron for the end because I have some thoughts and it's a it's dangerous all of this is so dude that was the only thing that got traction right so now I've figured the only way to get on get up or lead sportscenter with what is a really horribly harassing result is to have Taylor twelve and do television I think Lebron James you gotta call soccer out I think Lebron should sit a lot out and man so I know Charlie would take every opportunity to be swamy and you know rub elbows with all the suits up in Bristol for a full set it is it possible to hear full suit and tie because I absolutely Dave Ramsey here so tricky so tricky yeah but let's go out I know you have our television producer Lorenzo there who's wearing a full suit and tie because Hey hey moment if we could just to clarify this and Lorenzo please don't take offense of this no one invited Lawrence on this trip Lorenzo he's the happiest person ever and I want to punch him in the face overdress for what we're going to be doing with him today Excel overdress God he's going to look like a fool later long so if you saw his his interviews yesterday he's basically doing the flash paper mentioning all the other good things that he does and says he won't address aw you know what's really scary missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile app you can manage your Ako policy whenever laver I heard we were coming on this trip and somehow invited himself got approval and clearance to do this and is now here in a suit. Do you ever announced the rams capitalized and then Z.. Luckil- luckily there are time stamps for everything I can tell you and who are you looking at parakeets parakeet set at seventy that's yours now yeah no I was like all buddy I love it I want to hear that tomorrow he thought it was my original thought it was a big hit when he said it but he did say two hours after we can't even get an actual camera we have an iphone that we use for so not here this is Bristol baby we got we've got Osmo cameras who've got JE stabilize sportscenter had like I saw TC was doing it this morning and they were doing like a thing like every time something bad having highly little Taylor twelve in pop of water left actually move remember that yeah so I had gone to sleep at like you know like I went to my roommate like nine thirty or something I called it an early night and Lorenzo's like Texas don't she she's actually here to meet with actual people like do actual thing she's here to help the show billy how did you pull this off it was the only one bothered by that Canadian laws that I break the news you did I break the news to you that we lost a Canada aided for me yeah this is this is what we're experiencing so this is the first I see Lorenzo he walked in in the middle of the last segment so he hasn't had enough time to save Bristol baby during the phrase it's Bristle baby a lot he's he's he just walked in apparently he got here late last night and I had already gone off to go to sleep aw stop Fan Jerry the lake near Jerry Jerry I get it Oh man this is my homecoming I'd like to say a lowly PA here now hold on I'm on accomplish producer an employee of the company I'm a contract I just like to say for all right filer uses cup of coffee but you're so right when you could just hear his suit and tie walk in it is so annoying I just essential for this trip you guys are very intimidating so I needed to be the buffer and needed to be the intermediary are we meeting with the social media person here yeah eventually but I think I've found in the curse it is just very lifelike and what is its head keeps spinning takeover doing announce an invasion. We're doing an invasion where we are not doing anything it's a multilateral invasion I I'm the DC French you were not part of this observe that's another thing the Lorenzo keep saying we were talking about potential social media things right and I'm like all right well we gotta bring the equipment I don't know that I can bring it all just because you know someone did it Harry Keat Cortes Olen did on twitter physicality does it count and then he said at the STU gods just because everybody's doing from everybody twelve and Taylor woman needs to lead the charge because that's the only thing that registers that shady you're you're calling out Taylor twelve and to call out soccer night just because he wanted to see people no real saw saw the back of the day we're not mentioning who was there sorry but since you're there you're GonNa he's doing the Charlie he he said last night as as you may have picked up on Chris because Lorenzo I think showed up at the hotel at like mid in carry on and I have limited space and at the time I was Gonna be like audio recording stuff to Lorenzo's it's Bristol they have everything I'm like not for us like you don't just walk around and like start opening closets and start taking what are you gonNA cough I'm whereas a copy of competent right now he's me now you got it Jin that when the day begins Lorenzo is going to be like on another level person baby we only have two mikes that were sharing so we're in a very confined space in its early so there's not a ton of people here yet these lap billionaire cheek-to-cheek I met too many times yet but I imagine once we get out of the studio because we're only going to really small studio down it's like very dark and for those of you wondering why well we talked about it last segment but like we keep same we this is another thing this is what I want to get into Lorenzo's fraudulent just becoming a national you said last night you're a marlins fan and heat fan not a good thing I loved last night how'd you guys like it was great it was a good time we spent a majority of an India the bar in the hotel me Just got to my hotel where you guys at I WANNA go hang like I'm in my room like I'm I'm going to go to sleep soon like getting ready for tomorrow at a series clinching no no no no but can we maybe some tick tock now that you've brought that up the social media person was already coming and you tagged along and somehow pitched it as you were oh you made yourself part of this no one asked you to come on this we at yeah what are you doing man I know you're excited but what the state we've got our our social media persons coming with us so we're GonNa do snow no no no no no no no no no no yeah I see it the one that tobin tweeden Jesus fantastic filter is aw microphones you see this photo of your Amir Yager I'm Gonna I'm GonNa tax to Chris and Billy you know being careful I'll just delete this entire segment it's bristol baby vis debt being paid off we have our television producer Lorenzo up in Bristle there to document the whole thing Lorenzo have there been any on the scene developments how are you guys today local my man you guys need to get Mike Senior papa bear to massage and I can't leave this sort of debt up to sue gods or Golick senior because neither of them want to do it low key a punishment for Stugatz the the fact that a bet is a bet so we've found a facilitator of sorts Michael Junior is going to help facilitate says well now for those of you who aren't familiar with the origins of this bet a gluten massage was wagered on the University of Miami Notre Dame game that happened two years gal in which Notre Dame loss I believe forty one to eight to the University of Miami since then since then Mike Golic senior has owed suge I'm still digging it and how many things does he have on his wrist is he is he a prisoner tied up is he a prisoner is he being held I don't know I don't have the calls we go out to coal Lorenzo listening to this call because you might actually have something to do with coal you're on the air a suit like he's next was in a suit he's the only person in any of these buildings were not wearing a suit billy you dress for the job you want not the half I've always heard that yeah I think I'm just going to start this this segment like I don't know thirty seconds ago yeah let's let's take some calls man all right who do you want to go to that's a gluten massage all of this was done without Subas knowledge he his body was put on the line and he had no say in the matter but that doesn't change I wanNA run a chick Fillet Renzo has been vp of this episode. So far let's go out to Sebastian Sebastian you're on over at Bristol WanNa talk about ESPN crossovers with show that I wanNA see Stugatz gluts need to be massaged it's been long enough I want to see STU gods face while he's getting but massaged he's about to be drowned in in a in a body of water but the way that the sun is beaming down on him you you actually see he looks like a like a with people as a permanent guest fun bonds done at Charlotte though Oh remote we can do remark that one P and p against his will and no one is caught onto this because of how good looking hostage photo stories just look at Grady Looks religious figure while the mariners are now the only mlb franchise been never appear in a world series Mariners Fan Meena Calms will be joining us on the National Shout Golick actually does it but I think that would be a funny thing I start calling them out alrea well I have good news for you wheels are in motion how I before we started doing the local hour I got Intel on Mike he sees smoke breaks that he did he did a couple over the and then they will gain at Bristol depends yes drain off Mustang all right so we'll cain instead of Dan were you on a few shades darker than than I than I should be here in Brazil just gushing like it's weird radiant he's he's wearing when he puts in his email requests he says on behalf of the Dan Lebatardshow which is like totally unbeknownst to me yeah yeah well later on today maybe and then like welcome to Mikey sees smoke break so it's my favorite one yet and it's not exactly a big name celebrity or celebrity of any kind had to yell off camera this is called smoke break at him all camera yeah yeah like the yet there is a camera lake recording it so we may put it out on social weekend and I saw a preview to one of them Oh my God it might be my favorite one that he's done so far and I don't want to ruin it I'm concerned it Dan Guerrero Canaan he's he I don't understand that show I'm not sure what the pitches there Sebastian so you just want to replace I may just be talking about it and everyone else will be quiet so we're watching CBS this morning in here and Lorenzo just declared Paul Rudd is the new Tom Hanks yes does anyone agree with that he's Joe everybody he's he's loved by all have you found his big is big coming out party did he get nominated was there a nomination some sorts for big I don't believe so I mean his first nomination at Philadelphia's someone who doesn't like allred yet I actually never really thought about that and it's not terrible like if you said to me if we were playing the game who enacting is the next Tom Hanks is of Polish texts exchange I mean yes there's always developments this briscoe baby a now is no no no no no and with Wilkinson quite once a week oh my God I just thought of a great name for a ban Dan Kane if you say it fast it sounds like Dante Kate of winning awards and Paul Rudd isn't quite there yet in terms of resume right he needs to be on the volcano needs to do it wasn't his big dramatic turn Lorenzo overseas one saving private ryan a film that probably should not probably definitely should have won best picture but lost his Shakespeare in love he was nominated for two thousand one the the he's throwing it he forgot that it's called Mikey smoke break and you just like welcome to Mikey sees and then someone yelled smoke break it it's not going to have a few tells in my bag you need to see Lorenzo's face a he's going he looks like he was at a tanning salon like he is so want not the job that you go places coming up next we'll delicately talk about the Lebron James Situation or we did a little bit last night to something that is like a rarity and like a very bad sign Miami when you see your breath I love you could already see your breath up here and I I would be I guess there's not really Bristol but this is ESPN is bring back the book mobile who call it the STOBIE mobile and it's mikey CNN to the rental car in that hotel that you're staying at the Arctic Circle for whatever reasons anything it's one of the coldest darkest places you have that weird building off to the back earned the part that gets aired is not going to air this portion of it you know what I'm just GonNa Spoil Mike he forgot the name of his show was smoke break and so on take a little bit of a victory lap on Ryan he'll be named starter by the way Tom Hanks was indeed nominated for best actor with big really yeah and then there was about imagine that like by the end of today Lorenzo is going to be doing snow angels even though there's no snow I will say though is there any truth to it you guys have experienced the early morning walk a five year lull with Academy award nominations and then do just own the mid nineties nineteen ninety-four Philadelphia one nine thousand nine hundred five forrest gump be well no you need testing facility okay you install it where it's going to like live and then I'd like it to be run and tested there why am I going to back that looks like it could be launching a space shuttle that's an elevator yes thing building it's an alligator testing building which doesn't really make sense because you'd think they would test the elevator at the place the other day we we may air him talking to the president of an air purifying company a why would I get yeah what a get request for the job the big one yeah that's when he really planted his flag and that hey I'm Tom Hanks I'm Tom Mother bleeping hip hanks by the way just saw it come across the screen on ESPN Gay Human Trivia night entirely too positive right now I'm just trying that's good energy to fill bristle baby that's good energy getting some floor here also maybe have already McCall starts this clean now waiting on all right first off is Paul Finebaum show tested elevator and be like all right this one's good to go now it's completely move it to a new place so you asked you asked what is that building now Lorenzo actually told me speaking of or something and it's in the middle of like a field where there's nothing around it yeah and it's just a tower that goes straight up it's really out of place you can see it from miles what are you guys have had to say about this it's actually really good that should at least be a long time coming in like a two year hasn't been paid off there's no shot that goal Ah yes defense I understand what he's saying but the fact that there's an elevator testing facility doesn't mean that they don't test at once they install it they still do tests and like if you look at elevators they all have sort of you know what they're actually might be that's actually somewhat of a good point maybe we'll go over there later today knock on some doors hey yeah certified we can go on some Elevator Test Rights Oh my God eh zebras what are dudes what to do what's good all right so in the spirit of guys I needed on just ominously what is bring over what what is the Lord of Lord of the rings the eye of sorrow the ever seeing talking with Steve Carell has done now where when did return for for Tom Hanks was was big big yeah it was for you guys seem great crew up there so today when I was walking to when I was walking to the building we experienced something Tallawy in Halloween Halloween I I love Halloween it's like right there after Christmas it's after rank your holidays by the way I'd like to one day talk to an elevator certifier because like they're constantly what are you pointing at so there's no elevator service there might be one there so we're doing this

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Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN NBA Insider

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

11:32 min | 1 year ago

Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN NBA Insider

"These sporting light on E._S._P._N.. Radio and the E._S._p._N.. APP here's Jeremy Shop. We're joined by reporter non puerile. He certainly a legendary dairy figure even at his young age in our business my colleague Adrian Words Nasty Woge. Thank you for joining us <hes> Jeremy. I'm <hes> first of all great to be with you. I'm not sure what I'm more flattered by the fact <hes> your as legendary the factor you still called me young. 'cause I'm not sure either any. I'm not sure I'm either but I appreciate it well. I've got a few weeks left before I turned fifty some kind of calling everybody young because I think kind of get included as well. It's kind of my strategy right now just on the north side of that but what I should say you know what many of our viewers in listers might not be aware of you are your unique as far as I can tell in the history of E._s._p._N.. On the the on cameras side as being a Bristol Connecticut native who has risen to a very high position in the company when you were growing up in Bristol what kind of presence did E._S._p._N.. have in the life of the community well actually <hes> Malcolm Huckabee who I grew up with a Bristol who played basketball Boston college played a little bit with the Miami Heat actually got drafted by the Tigers off of one season of American Legion baseball. He Does College Basketball for us at E._S._P._N.. End and he's a bristol native too so I want to include him but I should have been aware of that. I should have been aware of that well but <hes> you know it's funny. I remember as a kid at the boys club a couple of things one used to play pickup basketball with Tom. Dees at the Bristol Boys Club who was a wonderful wonderful guy. <hes> obviously one of the originals with bobbly and Chris Berman and I remember and I mentioned this recently to Bob lead is a kid <hes> remember watching him pump gasset a gas station down Bristol making my father stopped a car and watch bobbly pump gas it. Was You know everything was self servant so it would have been hard for Bob Because he's a Jersey Guy in New Jersey. You can't pump your own gas so he was he was kind of pumping gas novice. That's exactly right sorry. I is really nowhere to go with that yeah yeah but no it was you know E._s._p._N.. Was a you know. I think you know it was something that at at the very beginning was you know regional. I think idea was regional sports network. It was going to do the Hartford whalers Yukon basketball and then they realized what we've got these satellites up in the sky we can we can we can broadcast all around. The country in the world and that's what it became but <hes> yeah I grew up just down the street. My Dad's still lives in the same house <hes> that I grew up with about you know mile from E._S._p._N.'s campus. We're speaking with Adrian words now ski the N._B._A.. N._B._A.. Insider who is a constant presence on the networks airwaves radio waves <hes> and you know I promised we wouldn't talk about the relentlessness of the job and and all it reminds me like when Jimmy Breslin he was a guest on the first edition of cold pizza like sixteen seventeen years ago and I helped book him because <hes> his relationship with my dad and they wanted Jimmy Breslin on because the show was coming from New York and WHO's the ultimate New Yorker and the anchor occur the show Jay Crawford is a great guy a great anchor. He opens up quite naturally a welcome to this new show etc etc.. You know got to tell you it's hard getting up this early in the morning at President who hasn't even been introduced you to sitting on the couch. He's might but you don't even see him. As if you already starts what are you complaining about the garbage out all night in the cold and the heat you're sitting here did air conditioned heated studio talking about sports so unsure. I guess you Kinda. You know you have that same kind of attitude like this isn't this is in collecting garbage in the middle of the night. It doesn't mean it's not hard work. Yeah I mean you know it's funny. You mentioned <hes> Bristol. I mean even when I drive around there. When I'm up there at campus I can see all these different spots in town or I had part time jobs as a kid head and I cut grass at the cemetery I worked you know in the you know shoe department at a men's store? I worked in the old photo map they had in the middle and everybody remembers those you'd have a photo photo. Matt was in the middle of like a parking lot in like by right and the cow doors parking lot and so you know my dad worked in a factory that's Dow closed and dawn <hes> ball bearings ball bearing factory <hes> in Bristol for thirty years and so like that's real work and I. I'm lucky to get got to do what I do and and <hes> you know. The backdrop of Bristol is interesting for me because you know I I worked in Waterbury for four years. I always have to drive through Waterbury. My Way and you know I just wanted to be sports writer. I just want to be able to make a living at it and so <hes> I'm lucky to get to do it and you know spends been a great place to do it for the last you know couple years Yahoo was a great place to do it before that so <hes> but the job has grown. It's sort of become this. It's like this beast that you just keep feeding and feeding and <hes> and wants to be feted the interest has never been greater and <hes> it's it's pretty remarkable the appetite that people have. For the reporting and the information that were you know we're trying to deliver. Will you move to Jersey to work for the record. Was it hard to learn not to pump your gas. That's exactly right. You'd always have to <hes> get used to. It's funny. Our kids who are kids have only known life in Jersey like we're out of state like what are you getting out to do. What like what is this something like no? You can actually do it yourself. Why don't you get out of the car and learn you know I? I'm sorry we're speaking with Adrian words now ski about more important things than how he learned to pump <hes> or how he had to unlearn pumping his own gas when he moved to New Jersey and what's going on with the N._B._A.. Right now it's it's become as the N._F._l.. Has Been for a long time of three hundred sixty five day a year league. When did that transition transition? Take place you think when did it. When was the tipping point? I think the two thousand ten free agency Lebron James and Chris Bosh go into Miami that started to change it and that started to change free agency it started. Did you change the interest that fans had and I think it really started to change the way the teams approach free agency and the way the teams approached <hes> organizations approach team building and on the kind of deals that were being done <hes> not just in free agency but you know the things like teams who would use their salary cap space to take on contracts but get draft picks and the <hes> the strategy that went into it you know has become this. You know you cover that all in a way the way that you're covering teams and <hes> on the court during the year and so you know so much of the league he has been around. What's coming? You know it's almost like college. Recruiting right people care more about who their schools going to get than the people they have their playing for him. Now the N._B._A.'s become that and then also shorter contracts when the League change the collective bargaining agreement shortened the length of deals used to have players who could be in remember Jermaine O'Neal had a seven year deal and you guys would get six year deals and now you know you AC- star players who are cycling in and out of free agency will quickly <hes> because they're doing shorter deals we had over forty percent of the League in free agency this year and that's going to be consistent number going forward. All the deals are one and two year deals for the most part many of them and then there's opt outs and deal so there's this concept cycling in July of it and and so that has just changed it but I do believe. I don't think there's any question that started with Pat Riley putting. That Miami came together. You I guess recently last few weeks. We've been hearing kind of a backlash to the way things are now done in the N._B._A.. And the power of the players there's a backlash to that in the way that <hes> <hes> the shift shift the balance of power is now so complete <hes> from the teams to the individual stars themselves. They're people pushing back against that. I think Adam Silver is said they've gotta look at the way that free agencies handle and what what what is going to happen there. I think the most first of all you know there's two issues of people talk about the tampering issue. I think there's two very distinct issues. I think most teams agents players. I think there's an acceptance that when the guy's going to be a free agent and his season ends let's say player gets eliminated from April or May and he's going to be free agent that July that there are going to be conversations taking place I don't. I think it bothers anybody. The rule say can't happen till June thirtieth at six P._M.. This year what I think people have the problem with and I think what is really problematic for the league is when there are players under contract who have a full year left on their deal. Two four years like Anthony Davis had two full years Paul George had two full years back in Indiana <hes> <hes> Coli Leonard had two years less than San Antonio and when there's a sense that teams as one G._M.. said the difference between tampering and interference don't interfere in my team and what's going on is your inner. There's interference going on in the middle of people seasons with their team <hes> off the bye one team or more than one team and it's been directed active by the agent and that's not new in this league this has been going on. I think that's the issue more to the addressed. Then what's the time line of one we can start free agency talks players who are are in the free and clear at the end of their season. I I think that will be addressed. I think the League wants to address that <hes> and and maybe create something that is more functional to actually the reality of what goes on but the bigger issue to me is with players with multiple years on their deal who are being you know told or pushed or <hes> encourage from the outside to find a way out of that place. I think that's the real problem not not that there's deal dot that. There's free agent deals done before July one. Anything's do things are GonNa fix it well. I I think they're trying to and I think they know they need to <hes> yeah. I do think they'll be changes to fix it. I guess what's the definition of fix but I do think it'll addressed and I think free agency. Whether it's this coming year or the following year you know probably the mechanics of it might look a little different but we gotta let Adrian get back to his phone and his twitter account. It's it's a pleasure Sir thank you for.

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ESPN and Servant Leadership

The Drozcast Podcast Speaking of Motivation and Leadership

21:05 min | 1 year ago

ESPN and Servant Leadership

"Buckle up you are about to enter. The draws cast podcast your host author and motivational speaker. Jeff drope says he will transport you through the world of motivation and leadership. Oh is keeping an eye on having some fun too sometimes with a guest other times just jeff either way. You will leave better equipped to succeed sooner than when you came in here. He is the dress. Jeff Present Ski. Hello everybody welcome back to the show. This is a leadership hip podcast stor leadership blogger leadership trainer leadership coach and leadership author. Jeff Draws Taos ski and. Welcome back to the draws cast. PODCAST folks before we get into the last podcasts for twenty nineteen. I do WanNa tell you about some changes that are GONNA become down the road and that is the draws cast. PODCAST IS GONNA be coming more guest driven. We are going to be bringing non people from the world of leadership from many different realms that includes business that includes sports that includes retail That could could include the restaurant business. It can include leadership for many many different realms and I'm very excited to be turning the page on on this format of the podcast which was primarily a one person driven and that was me talking about different subjects and I wanted wanted to open it up to a different viewpoints different Thoughts of mind and just many different ways that people can think about leadership. And I can't say that I have done two interviews to date that will be That I will be downloading voting here in the not too distant future and I really think you're gonna like the format so just to briefly touch on something before before we get into today's Final I'll call it me episode words just one voice me talking I do WanNa tell you To continue to go back to DROSS TALKS DOT COM. I am a professional speaker That speaks leadership from many different angles. And I also have author two books The most recent leadership one golden nugget at a time. which is a quote and illustration `lustration book on many different quotes from a credible leaders over history? And the things that they do to continue to be successful successful or were successful back in their day. Today I WANNA talk about my most recent visit to Bristol Connecticut Kit. Most of you probably think when I say Bristol Connecticut which is really kind of rural. It's a smallish town of about sixty fifty thousand people you say to yourself what be what is Bristol Connecticut all about well like I mentioned it as a town of about sixty thousand people but it feels much smaller than that. The biggest industry and Bristol. Connecticut is sports and when I mean sports I mean Bristol. Is the headquarters. Orders for what is called the worldwide leader in sports or ESPN or ESPN standing for entertainment. Taint and sports programming network. The expansiveness of the campus is quite impressive. especially given the size of town incredibly most of the talk shows and new shows that initiate out of the ESPN family of networks are housed in these buildings. If you're a sports fan you've correct names. Scott Van Pelt. Dan Patrick Rich Eisen. Mike Tirico Chris Berman and there are dozens and dozens of others that have broadcasted out of Bristol or continued to broadcast out of Bristol. Bristol venture to say that per capita capita there have been more celebrity interactions in the small town of Bristol during the ESPN era than any other city in the country. The success of the company began with founder Larry Rasmussen in the early nineteen eighties. Now Hilarie was the founder but it was the leadership that was created later on and ESPN that really catapulted to worldwide prominence. So my visit to Bristol. Got Me thinking about what type of leadership style was really successful at the network after all when we think of broadcasting in Sports Cele- celebrities ladies we think ego and managing that ego. The most successful leader to date at the network was a gentleman by the name of George Bodenheimer. Ford is his story and leadership philosophy when George Retired as executive chairman at ESPN in May of twenty fourteen eighteen. He wrapped up a remarkable thirty three year career which began in the company's mailroom in nineteen eighty one so he started from the the very bottom and worked his way up to the top consistent and substantial growth define Georgia's career leading to unprecedented success so the network as leadership style was simple but effective and power all employees to take charge of their careers and to base decisions on the company's stated mission which was serve sports fans anytime anywhere folks. That mission statement. Is that simple. Simple serve sports fans anytime anywhere. George was an ESPN and cable industry. Pioneer and and as the company's longest tenured president which was thirteen years he led an unprecedented period of global growth. He oversaw all multimedia sports assets of the Walt Disney Corporation including ABC. Sports from two thousand three two thousand eleven and was co chair of of Disney media. Networks from two thousand four until two thousand eleven. His father managed a department store and his mother was a bank teller. He calls his his parents says heroes and credits their inspiration and his success. He earned a degree in economics. At denison university. After graduating he wanted to work in sports and entertainment. He sent letters to companies like Madison Square Garden and every Major League Baseball team in the United States. I got twenty eight letters back saying I don't think so George Remembers the advice of a family. Friend led to an interview view at fledgling cable TV network called entertainment and sports programming network. Or as we know now. Espn George recalls in intimidating human resources sources director sizing him up. I was standing and he was sitting and I don't think he looked up at me once George recalls he said I was qualified to be a driver kind of a big blow to his ego. I'm sure so. George began delivering the mail and working in the mailroom. He also served as as a driver for on air personalities in his memoirs Georgia specifically talks about driving often for basketball announcing icon. Dick Vitel Bitel and many many others during his tenure as driver. If you're not familiar with the name Dick vitale. Perhaps you remember number. His nickname dicky these still broadcasts today all these years later. It was a perfect beginning for the enthusiastic youngster. Mr George Remembers I got to meet everybody as ESPN expanded. George applied for an open sales and marketing position and hit the road selling the network to local cable operators across five states. I learned that every town in America considered itself sports town and every city in the in the world thinks the same way. ESPN was tapping into that. George was quoted as saying working his way through the ranks. He became executive vice president of sales and marketing in nineteen ninety-six before being named the networks fifth president and Nineteen Ninety Eight. He held this role until twenty twelve when he stepped down from day to the day operations while President has vision led to company and Industry leading innovations in integrated sales and marketing original programming acquisitions positions and new technologies at the same time he solidified and enhanced. ESPN's position as the worldwide leader in sports. Georgia's Tenure Espn saw explosion and cable sports broadcasting as the ESPN family of networks grew from a single channel to multiple domestic stick networks and dozens of international networks as well as hundreds of radio affiliates and a massive online and publishing presence. He also oversaw for some major investments in new broadcasting technologies. George elevated companies. Numerous corporate outreach initiatives most notably the V. Foundation for cancer research which was founded by ESPN. And the late basketball coach and commentator. Jim Valvano the V.. Foundation has raised more than one hundred and fifty million dollars since nineteen ninety three and one hundred percent of cash donations go directly to research. He also championed an impressive increase in. ESPN employee volunteerism during his tenure. As president highlighted by more than thirty thousand hours of service given as part of the company's thirtieth anniversary Sri efforts even retirement he continues to serve on the boards of several corporations Denison University the foundation. It's a very competitive business. This were in but our culture at ESPN is something we can control. I think of it as always operate with integrity. Respect for your co workers and passion about what we're doing. That is a quote from George. Now that would be a great story about the network in and of itself but but as I researched ESPN. I dug deeper and deeper and found two other items of interest that are profound and professional development one one is philosophy of career development at ESPN and the other is the leadership philosophy of one of the most popular of on air personalities at the the network so first professional development when we think of networks were really only think of the people we see in in front of the camera but in order to make those dozens and dozens of people look good in front of the camera. There are hundreds of people if not thousands of people people behind the camera that do things to run the networks that we never see. They are employs like any other company and those folks folks need career development. Those departments include places like Human Resources Advertising Marketing and legal. ESPN subscribes rested. The seventy twenty ten career development philosophy for their employees. So what is seventy two thousand ten good question ahead not heard of it myself until I started doing the research. You may have heard of it in different forms but in this form it's called seventy two thousand ten. The seventy twenty. Ten model of learning and development is a commonly used formula within the training profession to describe the optimal sources of learning by successful managers. It holds that individuals obtained seventy percent of their knowledge from job related experiences twenty percent from interactions with others and ten percent from formal education events. The MODEL was created in the nineteen eighteen eighties by three researchers and authors. Working with the Center for Creative Leadership a nonprofit educational institution and Greensboro North Carolina. Lana the three people. Morgan McCall Michael Lombardo and Robert I king. Her were researching the key development experiences of successful managers. The seventy twenty ten model is considered to be of great value as a general guideline for organizations seeking to maximize the effectiveness of their learning and and developed programs through other activities and inputs. The model continues to be widely employed by organizations throughout the world the the models creators hold that the hands on experience or the seventy percent is the most beneficial for employees because it enables them to discover and refine their job related skills. Dell's make decisions address challenges and interact with influential people such as bosses and Mentors Wall at work settings they also learn from their mistakes aches and receive immediate feedback on their performance employs learn from others about twenty percent of the time hence the number twenty through a variety of activities including social learning coaching mentoring collaborative learning and other methods of interaction with peers encouragement and feedback or prime benefits of this valuable learning approach. The formula holds that only ten percent of professional development optimally comes from formal traditional course where her instruction and other educational events it position that typically surprises people from academic backgrounds. There have been some updated data that may suggests some fluctuation in this model but not enough to change the model at this point. So That is the seventy twenty ten model of career career development the last item about ESPN. I WanNa talk about as one of their most influential on air personalities. A gentleman by the name of John Saunders Sanders. John exemplified tremendous leadership during his thirty years of broadcasting more specifically he was an exceptional servant as leader. And for those of you. Who have listened before you know that I subscribe heavily to the Servant Leader. Model of leadership. And I I also think that it gets misunderstood that it is not a productive style of leadership but that is farthest from the truth breath so back to John if the concept is new research over the last forty years has found that the best servant leaders who are no strangers to driving driving results require and generating profitable outcomes led first by serving the needs of others. John John Surprisingly passed in August. Twenty sixteen based on reaction was quite evident that John was well respected and Hetty Servant leadership style. I some of the people that knew best talked about his character. Baba and other iconic figure at ESPN colleague of Saunders for three decades said that that he was a generous man of character and very proud of his family. An African Canadian heritage. John filled our lives with his considerable talent but most important the size and strength of his character and Persona Mr Lee said of John Character is what every company with strong mission should aspire to have in their leaders so few actually commit to that as a top priority. The rewards are many a leader that operates from character gains the trust of other people other. I see him as dependable and accountable for his actions and as trust develops and people feel safe in that leaders presence. He or she gains influence. Another great trait of John. Saunders was his influence saunders. ESPN boss John. Skipper said in a statement. He was one of the most significant and influential members of the ESPN family as a colleague and Mentor. Influence is really a two headed monster on one side of of the equation and influential leaders show up and be strong and competent but they must balance that with their other side which is being courageous ourageous showing their humanity more than anything specifically things like warmth and compassion and surprisingly enough scientists given even the edge to the softer side of influence. Many studies indicate projecting warmth is really the key to having influence research. Research shows that leaders who are rated low on the likeability scale have about a one and two thousand chance of becoming regarded as an effective leader. Only after they've achieved ability should they focus on displaying competence. John Saunders had the gift of drawing people all to him because of his magnetic warmth and his younger colleagues responded Jesse Palmer who worked with Saunders as an ESPN college football analyst and has since become a food network personality says this of John. People that were lucky enough to work with John. Saunders understand his infectious action personality. John could light a room up that warm smile. You just want it to trust John Saunders. He was very inviting generous in Gracious. John made me so much better at my job. And I'm very appreciative of that but I'm even more thankful that John made me like my job even even more and as I mentioned this earlier of servant leaders competence is huge and competence was something that John Saunders was so the other side of influences competence but being competent doesn't mean that a leader knows how to do everything but rather that he knows what to do went to do it. WHO's involved and how to get it done John. Saunders was a prolific craftsman of the broadcasting trade and he showed great competence. ESPN colleague Rachel Nichols one of the country's most prominent female sports journalist said that Saunders showed skilled versatility anchoring anchoring shows doing play by play and various sports and making it all look so easy. Lee also called him an incredibly skilled broadcaster again. John Skipper says of John. Mr Saunders was an extraordinary talent and his friendly informative style has been a warm welcome to sports fans for decades. His wide range of accomplishments across numerous sports and championship events is among the most impressive. This industry ever seen John. Saunders was also an incredible mentor Stephen. A Smith a provocative on air talent said Saunders was pioneer and pave the way for other African Americans the late Stuart Scott may not have had the ESPN broadcasting career. If he did not know Saunders said Smith Stephen Smith goes on to say and that's when it hit me what stands out and Smith's eulogy was is a defining leadership trait of saunders that is so effective in capturing the hearts and minds of followers and today's Workplaces Smith also lauded Saunders as being a mentor and Advisor Djamil a young co host for the ESPN show his and hers with Michael Smith said that Saunders had a tremendous impact on the cruise of many because he invested interest in them. Folks that is the story of John. Saunders Servant leader. I really enjoyed the research into this part of leadership and I hope you did too again as we move into twenty twenty the format for the drive. I 's cast will change with more guests young and old from a wide range of business sports retail and restaurant backgrounds. I often twenty. Twenty will be a popular popular and successful Philadelphia. Pennsylvania Business Odor Maureen Ruben. Your support of the draws cast is much appreciated. Tell your friends. The draws cast cast podcast. It's your place for motivation leadership and don't forget my youtube channel either jumped Rostowski. Thanks bye for now. Kyla take it away. Thank you for being part of the dress. CAST check out. Jeff's website draws talks dot com to find out more about booking jeff for your next event also at draws talks dot com. You can purchase. Jeff's book inspired power differences are changing the workplace or inquire about Jeff's training programs and Personal Executive coaching. All of Jeff's video blogs can be seen on his Youtube Channel Jeff Triscuit. Thank you and bye for now.

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It's Time To Listen

SVP & Russillo

34:48 min | 1 year ago

It's Time To Listen

"The ESPN POD is presented by Dr King's the leader in one day. Fantasy Sports SB pot is presented by Dr, King's sure UFC two forty nine was exciting, but that was just the primer. This Saturday UFC two fifty is starting the June sports calendar with a bag. Fighters are eager to get into the Octagon and drag kings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is putting you in the center of the action with a free shot at a one million dollar. Top Prize your first deposit. If you haven't tried it yet, fantasy is easy to play just picnic spider, stay under the salary cap and pilot points for advances take downs in more. There's no better way to put your MNA knowledge. Knowledge or while guesses to the test than to compete for a shot at one million dollars, because makes a UFC event more exciting than you've got some skin in the game with Dr King's and for a limited time. Dr King's is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars download the draft draftkings APP now and use Promo Code. SP to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. That's Promo Code SP to get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit only draftkings minimum five dollar deposits required deposit bonus requires a twenty five time playthrough eligibility restrictions apply. See Dr King's Dot Com for details. What's happening? Welcome? It's SB pod staffer. Steve is with me as always and. Given, what's going on in our country? In the last few months, I with the corona virus something we've never dealt with in our life, and most recently with what happened in Minnesota and the reaction around the country to on. Unfortunately, it's ground that we've covered before. Having a job where you're supposed to talk about sports a when there are no sports and be when there are protests, which turned violent is turns into riots across the country. It's feels ridiculous to come in here and talk about sports when Arne. But for the purposes of vis, forum, where you could actually air things out and talk a bit. I wanted to bring in my friend Damien Woody because Damian is one of my favorite people here. I often say that's a long list. We're really really lucky. We got a lot of good folks up here. In Damian is high on the list of great people, accomplished people, bright people kind smart and right now angry. Angry people and Damian's anger and a phone call last week when I when I called them up that. Made me. Start thinking about this and wanting to give him the floor here to talk. And ask questions. Because right now. I think it is incumbent upon us. To, listen to one another. Particularly if we're not black to listen to the people that we know whether there are acquaintances whether they're friends whether they're total strangers to listen to them. And hear them here what it is! They're telling us. And Believe them. Believe what they're telling us because what we keep seeing. Is that what they're telling us. Now, is being videotaped. Right. And so. It was that anger on the phone last week that. Made me. Feel like I wanted to give Damian a chance to come on now and share that. and and share with us. Where his mind is right now. Damien Woody joins us now and Damian was was the reason that last week on sports. We closed the show Friday one big thing for me talking about the situation in Minneapolis and the murder of George Floyd and what direction things they'd taken and the conversation that we had on the phone Damian. was just it just Diddley my mind and what happened was I called you to talk about? Maybe you coming on, and we're GONNA talk about some nonsense about football and then we started talking about. How you felt and it's been a basically a week I. Don't know if you if you feel the same. If you feel different right now, your state of mind your thoughts, what are they? Man. You know what Scotland I still feel the same way. because. A week is not enough time for me to get over the of things that's happened over the course of my life top. A week is not enough. Time for me to get over all of the things that you know my parents. My grandparents has gone through so as I reflect on things. It's almost like it's got it's you know I'm like angrier. At what's you know everything that's happened only with George Floyd, but all the different types of things that that happened to me. Having to people that I know and love and. All I want is for people to understand and listen. And that's the key word. Listen to what? People like myself and many other black folks have been saying for years because to me, that's been the fundamental issue here is we say these things you think that's happened? Things have played out TV into played out on camera phones, but it's almost like people just turn a blind eye to it and I'm I know myself, and it seems like the country is at a point where it's like enough is enough man. So I'm just I'm glad we're able to really air this out and talk about it. And and so people that are listening to the PODCAST, who might not have heard? What led to me talking on sportscenter about this was when I called, and you said you were angry and you don't like when you're when you have. Something that you can't channel and that anger. I understand being able to channel, and just so you and I are clear and I'm pretty sure we arbor just as a starting point like I'm not suggested in a week. You'd be awful. We're good I mean because things since you and I spoke only got worse, because because things, things took a violent turn. It property damaged. The the message gets lost in the imagery of. Of. Although it's Oh, it's the people are looting in. They're doing this and the other thing, and that doesn't help the that that obscures the message for some, and that is, and that's that's unfortunate because the message central message here is about what you said, which is what happened to George Floyd and what you've dealt with in your life, and that for me is what I I want to try to get to because. You know how much I appreciate you at our friendship, and when you come through and sit with me in Steve and man like I, said television, the laughs are easy. The conversation is easy, the things that make us the same, and it's a long as list, but I know that you as a black man, and as a big black man deal with things that I haven't and won't ever be confronted by my life, namely that if I see red and blue lights in my rear view, I'm not afraid I'm not. But I imagine that in your life you have been. Absolutely, Man! There's so many stores that I can tell I'll get into a couple of things, but one thing you pointed out pointed out just now. is worth repeating the fact that you know. You said that you know I'm a big black man and what people don't understand is. If. We know each other well. We've been around so long time everyone says. You know man. You just like a big teddy bear. Yes, I am that way, but there's a there's a reason why I'm that way because as as a big black man in this society. People can take it. They get intimidated. They get scared. So for me I'm always conscious of. Let me see if I can make my smaller. Let me make sure that you know the way our communicate. Doesn't come across as you know intimidating, you almost have to shrink myself on a daily basis. Just so I can accommodate other people, so they feel comfortable. Imagine living that way where you have to constantly. Every day. Try to accommodate. They afraid to you I mean that really really. It really bothers me and to get into. You know the story about. Being stopped by policemen listen. When I, you know I live in New Jersey Okay live in a small town in New Jersey and it's a great area you know to raise. Raise me and my wife and raise our kids and. I remember when I bought the house here and literally it was the third day after I bought the house driving home from from Bristol Connecticut I. Get pulled over right as soon as I get into town, and then all it literally in five minutes, there was like three cop cars. Behind the initial club card and all these guys get out and they ask for my my license registration proof of Lucia, Ernst, and then all of a sudden. They was you know. Why are you year I'm? I'm like in my head, and I asked you that okay so. That's what they asked. Why are you here and I'm thinking in my head? Okay, let me this is like really easy. It's a really easy question because my address on a license, but I said you know what I'm GonNa. Just play along with it and I, said Sir. I just moved into the neighborhood. Looking my car. You know. What do you do for a living? I said Sir I work at Espn I just drove home and it's late I'm just trying to get home and you know kissed the kiss the wife and put the kids to bed. And like those questions manage. Do people understand how embarrassing that is? Where you literally get quest about somebody else about where you live. Why are you here? You know. What do you do because of the car? The car that you drive embarrassing. It's embarrassing. If it makes you feel like you're a second class citizen that I had to explain. Why do I? Why have the type of vehicle that I have which are earned and work hard for? had to tell till this guy, but at the same time having the monster of. I can't I can't go off because. It could be bad for me in the end so I'm GONNA be polite. Answering questions so I can just get home. How long did that up like so this guy's? This guy's asking you. All those things and then added. Asked me all this whole. This whole incident took about twenty five minutes. Everything to about twenty five minutes. They, finally got and. Now, they followed home, but once they. They asked me these questions. Athletes ask. The questions went to the cup call. I guess, run everything and make sure everything is good, and that took forever, and then once it came bet like sorry. Mr Woody have a nice night and now was that was the end of and then out. You know went home and but it's stuff like that man i. have these type of things happen all the time? You would not believe it happens all the time. Myself and other people have. These stories. But again it just seems like for the longest. People! Think that just making it up. When if we're not? We're not and that's the frustrating part. How Difficult Damian is when you get home. To your to your your wife and your children and this late. Maybe they're all asleep, but whatever you get home to the and like what home is right. What is it represented? People with you listening right now. Everybody that's listening! What is home to you? I know what it represents to me. That's my safe place. Where Love Live! That's that's where I'm I'm good when I get there, but if I get home after that, I'm not good. I'm far from good when you got home that night. Like how long does it take to let go of that? Well first of all I didn't even upset. Fed in the garage for about twenty minutes, because I didn't want to take that energy into the house. You really. I was like so angry. Because here it is. We just moved into this neighborhood. and. We missed the type of introduction that we get in if I get. Into this neighborhood. And I'm like wow, man, this is this is crazy so clearly set in my garage with twenty minutes. To. decompress and gather myself because I didn't want to take that energy. Inside the House to my to my wife into my kid night, visually I ended up telling my wife about it and you know she's you know. My wife does is a saint, and she just does a tremendous job of talking, and and just calming me down and things, but man you when you step into your house May. It's supposed to be your place of calm in peace and for me happen. Walk in the House on edge is. That's not anything that anyone should to have the experience. Would I'm just curious. My sister married a black man. Might my little nephew and my little niece? They're black and I just I. Think about you know with the conversations that are come. They're young. They're really young. They're five and two right now. But like what do you say to your kids? Like. Are you talking nightly right now? Are you I mean I. I, understand it's been. It's been a process for you and you know that's why you're so frustrated because it's been forever, but like how how those things go you sit them all down at the same time I mean you got a daughter in college now? Yeah. I have I have two daughters in college man, and and and you know the thing about having older kids where we'll talk in and and the conversation is as you get older, you know. We're like more like for you. Know is becoming more like friends, so for them to be able to have conversations about everything that's going on is is actually refreshing. You learn some things from your kid sometimes, but you know I have also have three three. My three boys, and my boy's on on my youngest out of seven kids, and so You know to having to explain to them because they see what's going on TV and like that. What's going on what what what is happening and they have to explain exactly what's going on? Explain to them. What could possibly happen in the future? What do you need to do when these certain situations arise? Me Think about that I mean I. Want everyone listening to this to really think about that. The fact that I have to have a talk with mob boys about certain situations that arrive. What should you do? That never that happened. No. Have to happen. That's the issue, is you? You know it like you have to have a conversation about something bad that you know is going to happen. That's that's awful. It is man and like I. Say it goes back to. This is not some random occurrence. The experiences that I've had I guarantee you Louis Riddick had the experience Louis Riddick I. Guarantee You big Boga. McFarland at you know so. It's not one off. These type of things happen. All the time and people are just sick and tired of the man. We want change, and that's what we're. It seems like that's. That's what we're at right now. I WanNa talk to you about another thing that I've been thinking a lot about and that's that's in the Locker Room I. Think about my time in college in the locker room is the best place in the world, and I've seen it be as bad of a place when it when it gets really bad, I seen a couple of guys. Go out of Balk as naked. In the shower of awesome. That went down, but you know I. You know you know what I'm talking about. Though like. Because because I'm sure at the pro level, you could put it behind you because it's such a limited locker rooms, but college I mean you're a VC. We know how you know that the numbers are as far as that goes i. know what the numbers are. You being a black guy playing ole line like I'm wondering how different those conversations are going to be in the locker room and how much more responsibility? Responsibility coaches are going to have because you can't just let. You can't let stuff go anymore. You know you know when two guys don't like each other everybody. Non Team knows that you know, and usually it's because it's something off the field, and you know it whether it's you know guys the way they were raised and whether guys were you know were brought up. So how do you? How do you feel about things like? How do you think a lot is more on the table for the coaches? Well listen. I've always gone to mindset, play, police locker room, and the one thing about the locker room is is unfiltered like you lilly. Guys come from all different backgrounds black. which poor liberal conservative everybody is a big melting pot in the locker room? If you've got a problem, guess what I talk to you man to man face to face, and we can talk about it. We can fight about. You, you've probably seen in locker room. Guys got into fisticuffs and you know what we still you know. We still boys. That's just the way it is, but I mean listen. We had an incident. You know we had an incident today. You know withdrew reeves. kind of weighing in on everything that's going on and you seeing some of the you see some of the the backlash from either some his his own teammates locker room, so listen everything that's going on. You know people say well. You Know Sports, the ultimate cure all. No, you. No, that's not necessarily the case. No, I know I'm saying. There's a lot of like listen. When people when people get back into their locker, respect the locker, or when the players get back. Don't think that this topic is not WanNa. Come up and they're gonNA to be a threat. It's going to be addressed, but we know in the locker room setting. Nobody's hiding. It's going it's going to be thin. That's what I really appreciate about the locker rooms. I want to ask you about that. Breeze comment in a minute before i. get to that I just I was having a conversation. On. I. WAS Today Steve Wednesday. A the days and weeks my goodness. Are So. We're talking on Wednesday. I talked earlier this week. Tuesday I think it was I talked with Maryland football coach Mike Loxley. And, African! American head coach coach in college football, in charge of one hundred, and some odd many young men, and when this all happened he, he said that he put his his guys together wanted them in small groups to talk about this and they put they put out a statement as a team. And they wanted to try to reflect that locker room because he told me I got white. Guys whose dads are cops I got black guys whose dads are costs I got people that are trump supporters in our locker room and I got people can't stand trump in our locker-room, unlike all right, so it's like it's America. The locker rooms a reflection daime like you were just talking about and ultimately landed with with where they. They are and put out a unified statement and he's GonNa. He wants his guys out in the community to be kind of agents of change and I appreciate everything. He said about the way he thought through this and what that locker rooms going to try to do, but when when a guy who's the face of a team. My drew brees. Is that when he is the face of a franchise and he is that? Says what he says about the anthem and I respect his opinion because we are all entitled to that, but if that plays poorly in the locker room. And it's drew brees like. How does that get worked through? Scott up great question because there are so many issues in the locker room that comes up. But usually when we talk, you know usually when the issue of race comes into it, that's a totally different animal. It's a totally different animal and I know that you know drew brees you know drew. brees aired his opinion about the anthem and Colin Kaepernick you know especially this heightened time in our country and our society right now. There's GonNa. Be some serious conversations. You know the one thing again I'll go back to locker room. Is Not one of those things where you can hide and kind of sweeping on the road, because that's just not the way men go by Paul about doing their business in the locker, so it's going to be one of those things where. Man to man. We won't have to this thing out in in a team meeting like it can't be. You know can't be thinking. Oh, well, we're going to sweep. No, we got. We have to talk it out and feels gotta get hurt. Feelings get hurt and hopefully you can mend them. You know moving forward because ultimately as a team there for one reason and one reason only only, and that's winning, but. Glaucoma, not pc man. It's not being in the locker room. You won't. You won't get the real a lot of work. And that's that's why I think the locker room that analogy that in a lot of people have made it. I think that that there's a lot of that would do a lot of us a lot of good because it's a meritocracy and there's you know voices get louder. Feelings get hurt, but there's a common. There's a unity there in the end, and unfortunately like we as a country. Don't have a game to play. You know what I'm saying like. We don't people the fractured. Nature of things doesn't allow people to often to come together. I do wonder this. The. Does this feel different? We've seen this repeated far too often and we've seen the cycle repeating. I'd admired what Nick Right. WHO works for Fox talked about about about. How if people don't? If people don't use their voices to try to lead to change that this cycle will repeat, you can set your watch to it, and it's it's sad, but true statement, but did. Does this feel different to you? In terms of the number of voices that have lent themselves to this saying, what can I do how can I? How can I be an agent of change? It does feel different I had a I had a conversation with my dad two nights ago about everything that's going on. We talked about like the sixties and and what you? Where where did he grow up? He grew up in Virginia he grew up in. He grew up in right outside of Richmond Virginia. So you know that was a that was a crazy crazy famine. The sixties going up in Richmond Virginia so but the one thing he save was. That there's A. There's a big coalition this time. You know in the fifty was very polarizing. There was it was really travel one inside the other side. This, you know this, go around like. There's just seems like there's the coalition at a lot is a lot bigger and and people. The energy things to feel like people really want to change and I think the word that that really struck me was energy. because. If, we're if we're going to really have big structural change. The energy has to keep going. Because at some point, the protests died down. They're gonNA weather way. And the question is. Are People, going to revert back to the status quo or they want to keep the same energy moving forward to really affect change and I I just had the sense that there's a lot of energy right now and so i. You know I'm hopeful that we can really get things moving in the right direction. When you say that energy. We have Marc Spears on our MBA guy last night talking about this, obviously Damian and he just talked about the the use, and he's like man I I believe in issues I love this youth because they don't care. If you're gay, you're white. You're black. You're brown whatever they don't care. They don't see it and I understand. You know your. Your age. You say you're tired of IT I. People Mark Speir says he's forty eight. This is this has been his life. so I mean. Do you have that much hope in the use when you say that energy? Absolutely because good. I got I. Got Teenagers I got I got dose and I'll see you know. I've seen the type of people that they hang around white my kids, I call them like I called him the UN because they hang around with people from all backgrounds and like it's a beautiful thing and I think that the injuries that they have. I look at it every single day throughout this whole conflict that's been born on in our country. I look at them and like my own kids and I can sit back and kind of smiling and say you know it's bad right now, but because of him I think we will be okay. We're going to be all right bill. Keep this. Moving in the right direction. I gotta ask though I mean. We joke around all the time. Then you know you got you. You had to six pack, and then you had another one for seven. You know this quarantine man what? Grocery! Bills like Bro. Man When you got when you got kids dying people in the house, the band it's. It's pretty. It's pretty static, but I'm saving money on. Eighty men gases. Sheep man is make. Meet Red Meat Prizes like one day like obviously because the coronavirus meat plants, whatever such shutdown. Whatever what the this bilges. Went to get some steak or something like that walking out of their. Pocket. Man. Let, me fit. Man I got three boys. Three grown bored. I got girl that you know they. They like to get it in, and they like steak and lobster and all that type of. TYPE OF FOODS MANSO! God Damn Bill. Drugstore every I'm right man we gotTA. We gotta get out of this. Toronto man and get these kids out out. And hopefully we got we got some. We got some light on the sports fraud. I thought you again today would. With this idea that the NBA is going to Disney and they want their family. And I just thought you have assay. Four possibly. A. Drop off a cliff. I. Slow. Road I said to what was the other night like? Are you really telling me? Let's say it's Lebron just take one of the biggest store in the NBA you telling me Lebron. Lakers are gonNA. Go down to Disney in the Middle July and possibly stay there until October and can't go like there's no chance man zero chance that that's going to happen. We're GONNA. Stay Animal Kingdom. After after. Like I gotta go home. Russell Westbrook game staying at the Grand Floridian Lucas. Sleeping on Space Mountain, man. I. Crazy crazy. Oh it feels good to laugh man, because obviously the the emotions of this past week and change have been have been so prevalent and heavy. It's like it blocks out the light. And we need that, but the thing. That I really want to ask you and I. Appreciate Your Friendship and. And you, you been kind to me and and matters to me, but as I said on television like if I'm the white guy with so-called hood pass. If if I'm a white guy, there's invited to the cookout. That's great, but it's useless if I don't show up uninvited now if I don't do something to to help and talking is important. Because I'm listening to the things you're telling me in the experiences that you've had that are far too common that I have not dealt with, but. I'm not asking you to tell me my job, but I'm asking you. You think anybody this listening right now. That's not a black man or woman in our country, right now could do to be of help. What would be the first thing that comes to your mind? Well listen I think the first thing. Is You know we said it throughout this whole? WHOLE TALK! It is number one listen. That's the biggest thing is just listened and we have a saying in in sports. Bill parcells you said all the time, but. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. You know because we're as a society was so travel reliving bubbles go about everyday lives, and you know our communities and a lot of times we you know associated. Hang out with people that. You know some little us. And only way we can grow is is to change and change is never comfortable, and so I you know I challenge everyone to get comfortable with being uncomfortable extend extend yourself in and seek out people who aren't like you. You know I think that's to me. That's just a big thing you know when I grew. I grew up in rows out. Of Richmond Virginia I grew up in very rural town call bieber down and the one thing about who grew. We were poor, so I grew up poor blacks. Poor white or grow rednecks who had confederate flags, and and and shotguns in in the in the back, but the one thing that that I'm so great. Great for four was because I grew up Graham so many different types of people. I have an understanding everyone I have different perspectives and to me. That's the key. This whole thing is for people to listen to Dif- a different perspective than what you used to because you might learn something. And I'm not saying that everyone is GonNa. Agree but listening to other people's. Perspective, trying to understand where they're coming from. Walk a mile in their shoes. That could be a start to the change that we need as a as a society. Damian I pride myself on being a good listener I am listening. I know Scott Listen, but I hope you're listening when I say I. Miss You, Bro and. We need you back here on campus? A. Miss our talks and. Stay well, I hope I hope everything goes well your family and and we stay strong in these times. Oh absolutely man, I. Know You guys are? Making your way down to DC and you know I'm GonNa have to show up there at one point with some Gogo music. I don't think, don't they escaped me? Down to DC I can say that right now. We're not running from you. We're not. Hide from you, we'll. We'll miss sitting face to face doing what we've done. Throughout the time that our show's been on, but I mean this one I said I, just I just have such an appreciation for the energy. You always bring to the room. The knowledge, the smile, the laughter, and when and when it matters of the seriousness, the real and right now it's very very necessary, and so like Steve said I'm listening, and you know I always will and I just I was listening the other day on the fallen. It felt like it was. It was real necessary to talk. About this and you know what it feels like. It's just the beginning like we could keep going, and you could keep sharing, and that's what we gotta do like you can't be like just now. You know like this is this is me doing my terrible long by, but it's just because it feels like the conversations to continue so I. Guess what I would say on the way out is let's just let's make a promise to each other that that when it goes back to quote unquote normal that we don't stop talking about what we all should try to do. Is that a deal? After deal man, listen you guys. Both of you guys. Always you know you guys have always been my eight once man, so you know I love you. Guys have always loved being around you guys. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA definitely continue this. Man BB safe stay. And we hope that we hope that the kids can get out here and get out and out of the House soon. Go broke trying to feed everybody all right. Very. Amen to that. During this time of change we want you to know that ziprecruiter spoke is hasn't changed their still doing what they've always done helping. People find work in helping businesses find the right people for their open roles. You're looking for a job. Ziprecruiter is working with you to find the right job faster. They're dedicated to helping you. 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That guy keeps me same in. You have no idea he's. He's like Linus. Van Pelt peanuts. Did you know that Linus and Lucy van pelt they are. Lightest had the blankets Dave's my black and he keeps me. He keeps me okay when I the last few months and particularly this last week. What I'm looking around like what are we doing? He's like we're all right. We're good. And I waited till he wasn't on. headset to say these things about him and don't tell him. I said Nice stuff about but. He's my guy. My Ace and I appreciate his questions to daming as well so we appreciate you being out. Appreciate you. Listen and stay safe and until next time we'll talk to you soon.

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40 Years of ESPN's SportsCenter

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40 Years of ESPN's SportsCenter

"This message comes from n._p._r. Sponsor xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like xfinity x. by get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make wifi simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply. This is one a. I'm joshua johnson in washington. We're just minutes away from the first event on the e._s._p._n. Scheduled that's the nineteen seventy-nine n._c. A college football preview and then we're going to follow that with a double header of games. Two of the professional slow pitch league world series games will be seen tonight now. Softball all is one of those rare sports that everybody knows something about. Why 'cause we all play on sunday when we drink beer very little about the first broadcast day of e._s._p._n. Made did it look like a sure thing leonard. The first anchor of the first program inaugurated the network on september seventh nineteen seventy-nine nothing against pro softball ball but when you're launching the world's first twenty four hour sports network beggars can't be choosers. It was so new that the channels president explained to viewers how satellite t._v. works letting the signal from bristol connecticut reach the entire nation e._s._p._n. And its groundbreaking newscast sportscenter change the business of sports and the live sports fans from its cheeky promos the catchphrases of its anchors the network went through a lot of changes along the way joining us from connecticut is bob lee a former anchor of sports center and the networks daily newsmagazine outside the lines. Lee joined e._s._p._n. In its very first week on the air and he retired this this summer bob welcome to one a. Hi joshua great to be with you and a lot of memories burst out clip that you play. There's more. I'm going to get to some more memories and just a minute but it'll be great joining us from saint. Petersburg florida is n._p._r. Tv critic eric deakins eric welcome back to the program. Thanks for having me. Let's get to some more of those memories bob. You started at e._s._p._n. On on september ninth nine thousand nine hundred seventy nine here is another clip from day. One in fact here is where that first clip will pick up where that left off now. Here's another in innovation. Listen on e._s._p._n. And it's going to be a big part of our future the sportscenter with george grand you'll have the latest on what's happening all around george. Thanks le- and welcome everyone to the e._s._p._n. Sportscenter this very desk in the coming weeks and months will be filling you in on the pulse of sporting activity not only around the country but around the world as well. It takes an interview. We'll do it takes play-by-play. We'll do it if it takes commentary. We'll do that to oh. Bob lead the early days of c._n._n. They called it the chicken noodle network because it just looked so kind of slapdash and thrown together. What do you remember about the early days of e._s._p._n. Well well yeah if if you if you could find the tape machine to play those old formats and play it back you would it would look like flintstones television but at the time it was cutting edge and i think josh will really sustain this is that we were making it up. As we went along <hes> we were there are no rules we had to go on the air the contracts ex-resigned and <hes> you know george grande who remains a dear friend leonard who just passed away in the last year i with first voices and faces and they through a bunch of kids out there until i was twenty four when i got hired and so it was chris berman and tom was just a few years older and we all joined in that first month and we had three shows to do every day right and we had the airtime to fill and we had to do it and the instructions that we had from our initial president chet simmons. Who was there the creation along with bill rasmussen. The founder network shed said talked to sports fans the way you want to be talked to yourself and you know here's a guy who came minutes the president of n._b._c. sports and came over to e._s._p._n. Telling me and i'm twenty four and i'm just tired i was available to relocate and i was ready to work for their money into turning turning loose and it was very invigorating. Remind us what sports television was like when e._s._p._n. Signed on there was a little bit of innovation going on. I mean monday night. Football went on the air in nineteen nineteen seventies so roone arledge was starting to kind of shake up the way. We looked at sports but e._s._p._n. Really was kind of format buster right well sports television television joshua existed and you know i if you're if some if you aren't old enough to remember back to the sixties and the seventies there were three broadcasts networks a._b._c. a._b._c. n._b._c. c._b._s. and they broadcast sports for maybe two to three hour window on saturdays and sundays and that was it that was it and of course your local television sports show would have three or four minutes of sports and through the sixties and seventies and a warner wolfe pioneering the use of highlights. Let's go to the videotape but it was it was segregated basically for sports events and sports news into the weekend and here we were coming on twenty four seven with events and sportscenter numerous. There's times a day with scores and highlights. It was something i remember the reaction to what people couldn't believe what they were seeing would get the clips in from around the country and the reaction to people what they were saying and our mail it was f- we had reinvented fire eric dating one of our listeners called in to share her memory of the first time she heard that at twenty four hour sports network would be coming to cable. Here's what theresa left in our inbox hi. My name is teresa and i'm from old greenwich connecticut and i just wanted to say i've been watching sports center. You're listening to it on my app when i'm walking and <hes> just absolutely love it watch college game day every week. I can't wait to see him. I florida gators are doing and also i just wanted to say i will never forget when i was about fifteen years old and it was the first time the cable man ever came to our house and he told us that they were going to be a channel dedicated to nothing but sports and i still remember it like we lost our minds. We were so excited about it. I can still remember that to that to this day. I can't believe it's been forty years theresa. Thanks very much for sharing your story with us eric. I wonder if he would just kind of add on so what was saying not only because it changed the way we watch sports but it kind of changed the business of sports as well well e._s._p._n. Changed so much coach. I mean e._s._p._n. The weight e._s._p._n. Grew it grew as the cable industry grew. I mean it's hard for people to imagine now but you know c._n._n. Didn't exist. M._t._v. didn't exist. I mean e._s._p._n. Debuted and i think you know the first <hes> broadcast had like thirty thousand thousand viewers <hes> tons of technical problems. I'm sure bobber calls this and and but there was this idea this idea that television could provide hides something <hes> that focused audience wanted you know before then television was a broadcast medium. You put put on stuff to reach the widest array of people possible <hes> e._s._p._n. Was the first big effort to come along and you say you know what we're going to offer something that we know. Only a portion of the audience is going to be interested in but they're really going to be interested in it and we're gonna super serve them. We're going to give them everything they could possibly want <hes> in this area and make a business out of that and as they figured out how to make a business out of that <hes> <hes> cable television figured out how to make a business out of that and ultimately we we got this media universe now where it's all about what the audience dance wants <hes> e._s._p._n. Came along at a time when it was not that at all bob when you retired from e._s._p._n. After hosting your show outside the lines sportscenter center anchor scott van pelt who anchors of the late night editions of sportscenter had a farewell tribute and he talked about one of the many big sports stories that she worked on. Here's part of that tribute in early june of two thousand sixteen the hamad ali passed away at the age of seventy four. The news didn't come as a shock. We knew it was coming. We just weren't certain win. We've we've been preparing to leave for the night. When the news was confirmed. The greatest was gone. It was almost twelve thirty a._m. That's when we all turn back around and went on the air. Our show began then continued without commercial interruption until four fourteen a._m. I was in here with jeremy schaap. John anderson was in the studio as well at one thirty in the morning. Bobby arrived and took a seat at the desk. There's a lot i'll remember about that night. A lot of pride to have been part of something we and only we are wired here to do mostly. I'll remember looking up and seeing bobbly joined the show he and jeremy were still going strong after four a._m. If you're going to go on the air and do almost four hours of unscripted television you need a general we had out that sportscenter anchor scott van pelt and part of his farewell tribute to the bob bob. I wonder what it was like for you particularly in the networks evolution as it became clear that e._s._p._n. Was not just going to be a sports channel but also so a news organization to well. That was very important. I mean we had the scores and highlights <hes> but there are a number of inflection points josh well along the way i think back to the hiring of johnny walsh an incredibly agile mind and his in in in working in collaboration with steve anderson and beginning in the mid to late nineteen eighty s bringing some foreign substance to sportscenter. I think of the watershed year of nineteen eighty nine when we had a leadership position on the pete rose gambling story thirty years now it's hard to remember that how that has galvanized the country for full summer and we were out in front on that breaking being story after story and and and being really on the cutting edge of it and then just several weeks after rose was suspended did and then the commissioner <hes> bartsch amati passed away suddenly being the earthquake <hes> the world series. I should say where the earthquake occurred in e._s._p._n. <hes> we were the first on the air with news from the san francisco area national television what happened then and you look back at it confluence of events such as that and seriously we placed a a flag in the sand of journalism and we had done that before <hes> and then the next year nineteen ninety upside the lines debuted as a as an episodic shot show and eventually would become a daily or nightly show right but it was always very important for us to do more than just the scores and the highlights and oh. I think we expanded that over subsequent decades. We'll certainly highlights the one of the things that people know e._s._p._n. And sportscenter four we will add current sportscenter anchor to the conversation as we continue continue with e._s._p._n. Veteran bob lee an n._p._r. Tv critic eric decades. I'm joshua johnson glad to be with. You and you are getting not just the highlights but the full play by. I play with one a from w._m._u. and n._p._r. Support for n._p._r. And the following message come from carmax for more than twenty five years carmax has made it easy to sell your car dr they provide free appraisals and offers on the spot carmax will buy your car even if you don't buy there's in fact carmax has bought more than eight eight million vehicles to learn more and schedule your free appraisal visit carmax dot com starting college can be overwhelming everyone from almost every every background. Has that fear that they got in here by accident. That's scary. N._p._r.'s kit is here to help. Make your freshman year a little easier. Listen to n._p._r. Life kids new guide ride on college or subscribed to life kit all guides for all the episodes all in one place. This is one a. I'm joshua johnson reflecting on forty years of e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. eric duggan's let me come to you for a second before we dig into much deeper. Can you just contextualized for us a little bit more about e._s._p._n. In the larger larger scheme of television i think will be easy to hear this conversation think oh you're just geeking out over something. That's just for those sports fans. Why do i care how big is e._s._p._n. Really oh e._s._p._n. Is huge and it it embodies a lot of different contrasting elements elements as well so as e._s._p._n. Grew it became the fulcrum that sorta grew the cable t._v. Industry <hes> but it also commanded a a greater share of the revenue that comes from that industry which helped push up the everyone's cable bills and also created this backlash <hes> it became this huge programmer <hes> but there was always this culture inside the company of trying to make it more about the product unless about the personalities so so you had great people like chris berman and keith olbermann and dan patrick who were doing this very individualized wonderful work but also have this sense. The company was always trying to keep them in check. You had a company that was doing great. <hes> journalism as bob pointed out <hes> and doing a great journalistic service <hes> but also constricted by some of the contracts that had had with sports teams that it was presenting and in fact. You know one reason why he's p._e. E._s._p._n. Survived was because it began televising n._f._l. Football games and now that's a blueprint for every sports network. That's out there to try. Try and get a piece of the n._f._l. And also have these very lucrative contracts with these <hes> sports teams in sports leagues but then it makes it tough to cover them journalistically and then finally i just say sportscenter as had such an incredible impact on the t._v. Industry because it it started out with chris berman being sort of the ultimate fan and then when you had overman and dan patrick on what they call the big show <hes> sorta satirizing sports television while they were also moving forward forward <hes> it it it created sort of a template that we see in places like the daily show <hes> in in in non sports programming to sort of celebrate t._v. but also satirize it so it was interesting to see e._s._p._n. Change as people who grew up with television <hes> and respected some of its institutions but when it's wanted to subvert other ones <hes> began to run the channel would you just in a very interesting which clarify eric one piece of what you said in terms of e._s._p._n. And the impact impact on cable bills how does that work. Why is it that e._s._p._n. Success affects what we pay for cable. Would you just explain that sure sure so so e._s._p._n. P._i._n. <hes> will will charge a cable systems to to have the channel and because e._s._p._n. <hes> has been so popular for so long they they <hes> grooved to charge larger and larger amounts to cable systems like comcast and spectrum to carry the channel hanno and some economic analysis was were coming out. You know a few years ago to to show that they were taking up. Something like five or six dollars of of every subscriber's cable bill was going to <hes> pay for <hes> e._s._p._n. And it suite of channels <hes> and you know i'm sure <music> <hes> the executives of e._s._p._n. Say you know we'll people love us and they watch our channels and so we should be <hes> you know we we we should be <hes> compensated for that which makes sense but it it also helped drive up cable bills in the aggregate and made people question how much they were spending on cable then we started to see this cord cutting which has impacted e._s._p._n. And has impacted <hes> the cable business as a whole kind of began to substantiate like which channels <music> are are essential for cable owners and then also allowed services like e._s._p._n. To also offer service for cord cutters you mentioned dan patrick and keith olbermann and bob. I'd like to get your sense on the style of e._s._p._n. Before we add one more voice to the conversation here's a quick clip from april of nineteen eighty-five where keith he's olbermann is doing some n._b._a. Play by play does a little ironing arrives strickland again. Perhaps this is what the fight is about. It does not fall indiana means. I am the other good read by reggie miller from way downtown and mark jackson stern also from three point it lands jacket again. Circus move tasers run. Just walk away p._j. The blazers lost six or seven. This one one came after a team meeting to discuss friday's strickland to do strickland with twenty points eleven assists nineteen points ten boards for miller charlotte took the court three buying the pacers dell curry michael adams just injured orange work the pick and roll larry johnson did it so well keith olbermann doing play by play back in april of one thousand nine hundred five bobbly what was behind that kind of playful kitschy energy was that the spirit of the company then was just marketing as it just dan dan and keith come from it was organic joshua. It was keith's creativity his partnership with dan in the micro of those two guys on the big show but it was always the spirit of the company to <hes> and i mentioned at the beginning we were making it up as we went along there was more substance management and oversight certainly by the mid nineties but <hes> <hes> have fun for crying out loud plus. I'll tell you having done decades of sports center. We have this little phrase among that was originated by i think it was <hes> doug myers and originals in p._a. Years ago cabs mavs jazz like they're all playing each other one game on the sheet and the highlight never ends be the point being. You'll do so many highlights lights in the course of an n._b._a. Season your brain will go numb so you have to make it fun. You have to make it fun for the viewers. If you're gonna sit you're gonna strap. Strap it and sit down open a beer and watch a full our sports center in the middle of the winter. You're going to see so many damn highlights they have you got to do something to distinguish them and have fun with it and the amazing thing about kief. There are many any amazing things about keith. Who's who's a good buddy. He would type those out verbatim. No we all didn't do that. He would sit down and type that out and he would type it out early. In the evening i mean that's just a remarkable marketable. I under his creativity. Everybody did it differently. You have to be yourself. You're on television so much. You can't fool people you know if it's an act truly enact you'll be found out have fun. That's the key. Let's hear from somebody who's having fun in this particular sandbox these days joining us now from e._s._p._n. Radio oh in bristol connecticut is zubin mohanty. He joined the team in twenty eleven. As an anchor he currently hosts sportscenter on week nights and weekends soup and welcome to one a. daggs for having having me zubin explain how you do highlights you know bob said that keith olbermann used to write them out verbatim. Are you working from verbatim script. You have bullet points. How do you know what place to highlight. How do you keep the detail straight. Walk us through that process. I think the biggest thing is highlights our bread and butter so there's nothing more important than doing that right and i think if you i would ask van pelt who comes on at midnight or crew that comes on before everybody's got a different style of doing them. I don't think it says wrote is saying being a white house correspondent in right where you want to just be square-jawed as a man or a woman stand there delivered the facts and ended in throat back to new york. I think in sports it's a lot different. I would give you a couple of examples samples and this is why highlight to the bread and butter of what we do. If you've ever seen somebody watch like a rom com or a movie. I know the only make superhero movies now but if you think back to like around common those those things got green lit you'd sit there and somebody would laugh at the same joke seven times or if you've seen hamilton on broadway. Let's say five or six times you go back the six time in in your life. I didn't realize the nuance of that quote the first five times that's the way highlights are if klay thompson hits fourteen three pointers in an n._b._a. Game which actually happened last season people are going to wanna watch that ad nauseam now the twelve year old might be watching because he loves klay thompson kicks his sneakers right other people might be watching because they think you're watching one of the greatest shooters that's ever picked up a basketball and i know bob worked for former vice president here that i worked for as well and he said and sort of a grandiose way a little facetious way he said the minute. Somebody starts doing highlights better than e._s._p._n. Is when e._s._p._n. Is quote unquote out of business. Of of course he was joking but what he said was what he meant was e._s._p._n. Sweet spot on sportscenter is highlights so we have to be leading the way it's a point of pride died when you watch another network like fox or c._b._s. And let's say you're targeting a fifteen or twenty year old person. That doesn't know who boomer esiason is right right where they don't know who chris collins is you'll see a little box pop up on the screen and it'll say chris collins word cincinnati bengals wide receiver nineteen eighty two whatever and that's something that was popularized by e._s._p._n. And it's a point of pride when you watch all of our other competing networks and you see some of the things the tools applications the graphics that we're using that are everywhere there and it's not just e._s._p._n. Telling somebody this story this morning. Steve levy is going to be calling our monday night. Football game a dream assignment for him on monday between the broncos and the raiders. He took his nine year roll daughter to a game a few years ago and she said to him dad. Where's the yellow line you know so it's one of those things where you think about and you say all right yeah. Actually that's that's just on television. You not not painted on the yellow line the kind of augmented reality line. It shows you where the first noun is. We're gonna have to get through to get a first-hand correct and so those evolutions. Many of those have been started by e._s._p._n. Fox and ninety four was the first to put the score on the screen. Can you imagine to all three of you. Can you imagine watching television event right now where you don't know the score where you i don't know if it's thirty fifteen in tennis match for one game or brooks kept goes nine under par. Can you imagine watching a sporting event today without that information well in one of the other innovations and i i do want to get to some more questions for our listeners but one of the other innovations is just some of those catch phrases we heard keith olbermann do some of them another one of the luminaries of e._s._p._n. Who we really can't do this conversation without at least calling out with stuart scott. He began at e._s._p._n. In nineteen ninety-three and kinda pushed the sound of the network further into new territory especially with his play by play call canonical buddah because he is on alone wasn't the only one tonight sports stars time time 'bout derek jeter and i know this kid is as tall as the other side of the pillow shot to let some of the legendary play-by-play from the late stuart scott. Probably one of the reasons that tom was a fan. Tom emailed. I had to use my imagination when i started listening to the university of kentucky in the forties sports center brought games and stories to life for me. Thank you sportscenter for all. You've done for sports fans everywhere. I wanna talk more about the evolution of e._s._p._n. P._i._n. When we continue lewis emailed i was born in eighty three and since then i was never into sports but i've always been a geek so video games have been my thing. I was very a happy and proud to learn e._s._p._n. Began showing video games as e. sports. I never would have thought that would happen if you told me when i was a kid because video games had bad stigma back then and wasn't as mainstream as it is now. We'll discuss the evolution of sports television when we continue with anchors zubin mohanty veteran anchor bob lee and n._p._r. R._t._d. critic eric duggan's. We'll also hear from an e._s._p._n. Correspondent who is covering the beginning of the n._f._l. Regular season right now and we'll get some more of your questions and comments to stay close close his support for this podcast and the following message come from google from connecticut to california from mississippi to minnesota millions of american businesses are using google tools to grow online the grow with google google initiative supports small businesses by providing free digital skills workshops and one on one coaching and all fifty states helping businesses get online connect with new customers and and work more productively learn more at google dot com slash growl. Hey there it's joshua. Thanks for listening to the one a podcast. Please take a moment to subscribe and leave us a rating that helps other the people find the show and don't forget you can catch the news roundup at the end of every week. What do all of these people have in common. Comma harris keep food adjudge and bernie sanders unders. They're all running for president and they've all sat down with us on the n._p._r. Politics podcast appeals gonna drive me crazy. We are going out on the trail l. with as many of the democratic presidential candidates as can and bringing you in depth interviews with them come along by subscribing to the n._p._r. Politics podcast back now to our conversation with eric duggan's bobbly zubin mohanty before we get back to them and to some of your comments. Let's speak to someone who is actually on the job right now. No not in e._s._p._n. Studios but on the sidelines at soldier field in chicago joining us now on the line is michelle steele. She's covering the beginning of the n._f._l. Regular regular season michelle welcome to the program great to be here joshua. You're from chicago as i understand it. You started at e._s._p._n. Late in twenty eleven in boston and then moved back to your your hometown at twenty sixteen. Give us a sense of what it was like working for e._s._p._n. In such a very heavily sports devoted the town like chicago chicago and i would include boston in that you know i started with e._s._p._n. Studio based. I it was more on the digital side where they were expanding so much of what we were doing on mobile as well as web. When there was an opening there was an opening being in the boston bureau and <hes> chicago and boston might be to the biggest sports towns that i've ever been in and and i went for it you you know i auditioned for the job. I showed my reporting chop them. Knowing that i had reported before i came to e._s._p._n. Was really important and like so many things in journalism timing is eighty percent of everything and when i had gone to boston and this is still in sort of the audition in stage <hes> i've gone to boston to cover an n._f._l. Player that the police were <hes> surveying at the time and his name was aaron hernandez and they assigned me to sort of watch his house and see what was happening and keep tabs on what the patriots organization was doing and and that story became the most significant one. Perhaps i've covered thus far in my career diest beyond i followed it all the way until his conviction <hes> <hes> in in new england <hes> four first degree murder and that was the first first story i did. I'm glad i had my reporting shops and it just showed me how important it journalism is and was e._s._p._n. In addition to that you've also been on the investigative beat e._s._p._n. Is that right yeah. I've done pieces for outside sidelines. It's sort of the journalistic standard bearer idea and talk about. I'm sorry to interrupt you michelle. I'm curious knowing kind of back to the question. We asked earlier earlier in terms of being part of a network that is both a programmer and a news organization that covers the sports that programs. How do you manage that balance. Yeah i the way i look at it is like a newspaper or a radio station. That may be business partners with the team that it covers. There's always going to be that wall that editorial wall between the reporters and the analysts and the anchors who are in the trenches so to speak and the people who are on the business side and the advertising side you know when i was <hes> at bloomberg news which is where i sort of cut my journalistic chops just before he s._p._n. I would watch sports center and think to myself. This is a company that is number one in the the business eight hundred eight hundred pound gorilla so to speak of sports programming in sports journalism and they're still pushing the envelope. I never got the sense they were leading up because of the position that they were in the market on the contrary they sort of leverage that position to be able to push harder <hes> <hes> <hes> cover the news as it should be covered and not shortchange viewers. I know there are plenty of people who have complained over the years at various times. We just want to watch the game. Stop making it about politics and culture and all these other things. Just give me the highlights. Let me enjoy the sports. It's nice that there's all this visibility for various people. That's cool by just want to watch. That's the game michael e mail. Do you think e._s._p._n. Seemingly greater willingness to discuss politics and it's linked to sports help or hurt its popularity before i let you go michelle. Oh how do you strike that balance between just talking about the game and what the game might mean in a larger sense yeah you know i've been covering the n._f._l. For e._s._p._n. Since twenty thirteen thirteen some of the most eventful years for this league and certainly that includes when colin kaepernick kneeling. I'm not someone who believes that we <hes> covered it in a way that maybe over amplified the message of politics or polarization. We were covering it in a way that players spoke to us about or that coaches spoke to us about or in my case i was at the <hes> cowboys cardinals game where jerry jones took a knee and talked to him before the anthem and talked to him after the game about why that was significant. I think that if your job is to cover sports and do it and doing the cerebral way and do it in a way that that <hes> that players are experiencing it. You know you need to talk about everything that they're experiencing is experiencing this game and that's one of the ways that they are. They are <hes> that they're experiencing it. I hate to overuse that that word experience but that's that's what we're trying to bring the honest experienced all playing a game of being professional athletes to viewers into readers and if you don't talk about what they're experiencing on the field and then you are not telling the full all story. That's e._s._p._n.'s michelle steel joining us from soldier field in chicago michelle. Thanks for talking to us zuma nor thomas tight but it's interesting how sports is often kind of a lens for the way we view the world. It's one of those things that people have always are often said is just our escape from the rest of the world but whether it's jackie jackie robinson joining the majors or the you know the black power at the nineteen sixty eight olympics or the terrorist attack of the nine hundred seventy two olympics or nine eleven in the way that sport's responded to so it. It's kind of inextricable. How do you just manage that as someone who's doing highlights when you know that sooner or later real-life is going to creep we've been i think he just accepted in. Take it for what it is. I mean i think sports has always been a forerunner when it comes to these issues and i think this is something that sports has gotten the short shrift on you. You mentioned jackie robinson breaking the color barrier in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. I mean that was way ahead of this country was doing if you consider what was happening in the nineteen sixties in the south so sports ahead there you you go into any locker room. You go and do an n._f._l. Locker room he got fifty three guys with fifty three stories and fifty-three backgrounds and they're all they're working together. They've all took took different paths to get their part of what they did to get there has fueled their ability to move on and be better at what they do so i think a lot of it is just simply. Accepting the fact that that is real life when i worked in local sports they used to call the sports department the toy department because that's how they looked at his vis-a-vis news and weather but sports is a serious serious this business both financially and socially and i think in many many ways you mentioned the mexico city olympics. You mentioned jackie robinson in many many ways countless ways. Historians orients like bob and others can tell you that sports has been ahead of society in a lot of ways and a lot of the issues. We're dealing with today bob. I don't know if you know the answer to this but you have the most experienced. Is it e._s._p._n. So i figured i put it to you. Craig asked a question that i would have asked also craig emailed. I always wondered about e._s._p._n. Broadcasting the scripps national national spelling bee. How did that come about. I don't know how they came about. I mean yeah. I is it an athletic event <hes> you. You certainly works your brain way. Those kids sweat it might as well be exactly. Is it something to be celebrated. Absolutely i mean what's the subtext so much that we talk about. This is the social impact of sports and we talk about you know amateurism in college. Athletics is education even a factor in in the lives absorb any college athletes who simply go for a scholarship for a chance to play the pros blah blah blah and all of the values and the hypocrisy that may be played and here is the purest example sample of of of of education of young kids applying themselves. I i don't know who thank for it but it's it's become a signature event for forrest. I think it's tremendous one last thing bob before we wrap up. I know that you are just beginning your retirement after forty years at e._s._p._n. Where would you like to see the business business of sports television. Go from here whether e._s._p._n. Or elsewhere before we go wow it's changing as we mentioned in this hour the platforms changing <hes> i'd right like the seat embrace what are many changes that are approaching in this country. I think new platforms will emerge but i tell you at the end of the day and it's been proven time and time time again over the past forty years whenever these questions have been on the table the one sure thing is the winner is the viewer because the american capitalist system figures it out through the competition and innovation and technology and and you know you might pay a little bit more than you want to at the beginning of it costs will come down. You're going to be the winner at home. I promise him bob lee a former host of e._s._p._n.'s outside the lines and one of the original anchors of sports center one of the first employees of e._s._p._n. Back in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine bob. It's been a pleasure thanks. Thanks very much for talking to us joy to be your thank you zubin mohanty one of the current anchors sportscenter zubin. Thank you appreciate it. One of the biggest fans of up first so please pass asked out along. We'll do an n._p._r. Critic eric eric. Would you pass that onto the teaming up. I believe i will happily do that. Please do thank you eric. Today's conversation asian was produced by statia brown and edited by miranda full more. You can learn more about them and the rest of the team online at the one a. dot org slash staff. This program comes to you from w. a._m._u. Part of american university in washington distributed by n._p._r. Until we meet again i'm joshua johnson. Thank you so much for listening. This is one.

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Hour 1: The NFL Is A Fraud

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Hour 1: The NFL Is A Fraud

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I might have to fire gays today if not the fakes to God's will fire as for a second consecutive week Israel Gutierrez is in studio with us Dan we'll be back a week from today Levy talk will return to the Dan Le Batard show one week from today we're all very excited about that is he where do you WanNa start today you're my hero man Oh stop stop it that's where I want to start I am both proud of you envious of you kind of not very envious of you look tired you look seeing how tired you look walking in here yeah but I have never been more combination of happy and proud that I'm not related to then you on Friday night at that way we'll thank you I appreciate it I am tired I watched the fight I actually watched the fight I paid for the fights right you weren't courtside or brings I believe Julio you believe you and something happened Friday they've had a budding friendship on the air or hey mas on Stugatz but Friday backstage age while Stugotz was holding his hands up and worry Mas Vidal was punching them as if it were legitimately trading for what would what was the come something funny happened spend sue gods and Mazal became legitimate friends Putt for what they want I gotTa tell you I was trying who explains to buy wife Abby that man you see on the videos that man walking to the stage right before the way up standing right behind him by the way that is my iphone the entire time so he is walking down that aisle it's backstage and we are walking and that's the only time where it was just me and Moscow and can you hear me saying let's go let's do this let's come hyper them up he told me to take it seriously to get fired up at am trying to explain to my wife that man that you can see on their television screen green right now the people of certain saw over the weekend there's me waving his shirt almost hitting a a ring card woman I think I hit her in the face up she had to dodge a flip flop that flew out we have to explain why there was a flip flop that flew out of the jacket for a second there the Rock Ah Dwayne Johnson looked down and you could see in his face and says why is this mother bleeper blocking half of my body with his who is this and why is he black so let's start from the beginning because Pablo Torre and I are waiting for Stu Gods I just WanNa say this what I was explaining to my wife life is as we were watching the fight together and this is the baddest bleeper on the planet right now okay I tried to explain to her that outside side of the octagon there is a warm authentic genuine caring man with a great sense of humor she refused to believe me I is it abby I would trust them with our kids that's how nice this guy is it is real it is genuine he is fantastic with that said let's start from the beginning from the beginning in which we're panicked because it's a dead show so we know got US showing up the Madison Square Garden and we're just not sure or if he's going to show up in time for the way in that is before the deadandcompany show the the debt shows were Friday and Saturday you're going to Friday's he went to Thursday tame riders you into Thursday yes I wanted to Thursday and Friday then the fight was Saturday night live Maggie Rogers opening up very cool too weird opening act for deadandcompany and she was fantastic I'm trying to get her on the podcast this week she really was amazing was a nice little treat their I'm telling you guys after the Mazda away from me why is it no one else thought wow Maggie Rogers opening up from the dead that's weird or fine well she didn't open up for the dead she she she was a part of a couple of songs wrong so she did friend of the devil toward the end of the first set with the dead and she did the weight towards the end of the second set the end of the show with Dan she was fantastic so waiting for guys I'm like there was a moment where I am telling you I enjoyed five six songs with Bill Walton Thinking Bill Walton new he was enjoying this the songs with Bill Walton they had no idea why I probably only knew who the people onstage zone those shows so sue God's finally does show up it was a little confusion maybe showed up a little bit late but it's all right we get through security and there's a lot of security and we finally get to the Hulu Theater Paddison Square Garden near the ESPN plus broadcasts spot and there's all sorts of mystery as to whether or not to is actually going to be able to do this because we've talked to people and we're like we're here I'm in contact with Hore Hayes crew that I it seems that appears to be on but everything that I'm hearing from people there it's like like oh we heard this wasn't happening who's telling you this is a UFC telling you this because representatives from the UFC we're telling media people know he's not going up but I'm like where were are you at the time I was we were there backstage we were we were in front of the stage not backstage because I was told that only if if this happens only to gods can go backstage now stu gods dresses like an animal sometimes he wasn't really put together going to a dead show yes animals usually naked yeah yeah well cigarettes was strolled up he wasn't that bad to his credit he was wearing adidas shoes and an under armour Jack UFC has a deal very exclusive deal with Reebok so I was being asked what suits was wearing and I told them and they're like that needs to change I'm like this can jeopardize him going going up there I don't know I don't care if he has to go up tiny white shirtless like he needs to be like me and I'm like Adidas though we'll try to get him some shoes I'm like he'll we'll go up barefoot it doesn't matter so finally like we're pushing them you have to go up there barefoot it's got already like I'm aware that he's got back out of this on his own because he doesn't WanNa be embarrassing written go up barefoot suits is capable of shame somehow yes but we're in negotiations and we finally get someone takes you gots backstage meet up with four hospital where he is given UFC slides to put on his feet while Yeah Yeah and and he sends Oh you got a bunch of free stuff that he all left there he were wait a minute what happened to the shirt you had made for this That shirt is right here I actually have it right here so we couldn't wear that shirt because again of the deal with Reebok so sue gots what's is given these UFC flipflops but by then Pablo and I were so committed to him going up there barefoot obligatory yeah we told cigarettes no you have to do a barefoot but and it worked out because you got all right I'm doing it barefoot any Waldo waddled up to worry Mazda Dole who told him I like it it's primal hey eddie greet you when you first saw he gave me a big hug we talked about the lack of flip flops and he said that was one of the first things he said to me I like it primal originally I was actually hoping to be like on the sage back to document the entire thing they were only letting sue God's on the stage so I told got you have to document this entire thing with your iphone so stu gods credit to him did so and at the beginning of this whole way and he got like what is truly a beautiful beautiful cinematic experience if you watch the way it's Lynn and how he's like behind or hey mas vidal it's really cool but he's been goosebumps dud it really does I I mean perhaps because I know upstanding three feet behind him just following him into the onto the stage but it gives me goosebumps every time I watch it got the only only person on stage with Horror Mazda I assume there would be a large crew would just be part of this is the only person up there repping team Masato it's amazing easy face do you have never been more focused in your life yeah I mean I mean no offense you've got the extreme double Chin action going because you've got the face pulled he holds are just focused like you are some sort of award winning cameraman just doing your thing you want to be the guy that pisses off Moskva though he ought to take it seriously to put my game face on it yeah you don't look scared you look intimidating so it on the on the stage is not as has hoary mas but all Joe Rogan Dwayne the Rock Johnson who looks incredible and huge and he's holding the B. M. F. L. Dana white this is legit this this is the face off before the fight and they're putting his camera in everyone's faces holding his phone like a dad chewing his tongue forget about swinging shirts tamie swinging a jacket which it has like the flipflop said he put in the pocket the flipflops come flying out a ring card woman has to duck out of the way of one of the flip flops and at one point I was like begging guys okay you can put the phone away we got enough good self nope Stugatz then takes his phone and in the staredown if that's what's what's always photograph before the fight the stare down between the as STU gods bullies his way in between them to put his phone in there that's when Dana White gets into the picture Dana The white brushed aside that image for those who watching on TV it's an image of a barefoot stew guys phone and warned a hands swinging jacket on the other hand and the rock looking down at him like what are you doing here so security told you to stop with jagged I noticed suddenly they did did you notice when I walked past Dana White and perhaps shoved shoved them aside did you notice he looked down at my feet look very confused my favorite moment was you going to Dana white it was picked up by their cameras but I'm STU Gods Dana White says I know stupid I approved you being here yeah and the rock whose confused by why do I know this person what is he doing he's really forward with this whole cell phone thing dude chill also why is he barefoot he then God's straight line right after Dana goes to the rock introduces himself takes two great pictures with the rock the rock lock no who you were I don't know I mean I felt the need because I didn't know who was who I was focused a mosque fidel okay that a- As far as I'm concerned it was just me and Moskva Don that stage together that didn't notice anyone else I went up to the Rock I saw him I knew I was GONNA ask him for himself he's he's not Mike maybe because he asked me house Dan doing and I responded personal matters he'll be back week from God's it seems like car battery struggle in every season in summer they are hot and winter they are cold advance auto parts will test your battery for free and any season and install new one if you need it whether your car's covered in fall leaves or winter snow it's always a good time to test your battery insist advance auto parts we'll do it for free you have no excuse swing by today and they'll help you power through the seasons advance auto parts big ahead think advance prescription required online physician consultation and are only available at the physician determines prescriptions appropriate see website for full details and safety information one of the scariest things that can happen to a guy that first morning you wake up you look in the mirror and you start to realize you're going thin up top to out of every three guys are going to start losing their hair by the age of thirty five thirty five you're still young dude at that point you're GonNa Start Losing your hair then think about it a year from now it's all gone everybody used to think as soon as you start losing your hair yeah that's it it's genetics it's father time and there's nothing you can do about it well guess what that's wrong for him dot com is a one stop shop or hair loss skin care in sexual wellness on this for men prescription solutions backed by science written by Dr delivered to your door thanks to science baldness can be optional good for him dot com slash. 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Yesterday we can mock Mike Mike Ryan and the brands sounds we could mock me getting old too little to easy yup the browns they're bad like no one expected this okay they they are bad we cannot talk about jets dolphins we can go patriots ravens where would you like to start in terms of we got a note here that just says the NFL's a fraud and just because when I think of like two weeks ago when we were talking about essentially and going into this week as well talking about the Patriots being the best defense ever ver- and this team being atop the AFC with no peer and we were wondering if Lamar Jackson had to run more than we wanted him to and was he he good enough and everything else and now we've got this all time patriots team given up as many touchdowns as they have all season and one game and Lamar Jackson looking more responsible justice responsible for his team's wins let's say Russell Wilson out in Seattle and he could be an MVP candidate before it's all said and done and now suddenly we don't know what the Patriots have as far as offensive offensive line as far depth that receiver as far as a run run game instead of just like you know the passing two running backs in so yeah the NFL's a big fraud because I thought everything was one way now it's another way do we know anything anything that we know the niners are good we have gosh they're winning without actress that was a big win for the chiefs yesterday and that's what more can do for you when you game or two that you need to wait until mahomes gets healthy again no lie we had a discussion on HQ I think it was last week that said Kirk cousins MVP and it was in that same convert and same sentence Now now he gets to fund digs a pass for the entire game. It's a credit Andy Reid because how many coaches have we seen fired because their quarterback gets injured uh-huh over decades now Andy Reid has been able to manage injuries to Stud quarterbacks sometimes going in there with a third string quarterback like quite even dating back quite detmer yeah and still being able to run his offense who would agree now it's certainly not what it looks like when Patrick Mahomes is fully healthy but if he had an entire season of Matt Moore you're that's a borderline perhaps even wildcard playoff team if you team it with a full season of Tyreek Hill because holy hell that dude as fast I mean he gave Davis teammate a running three yard headstart and caught up to him within thirty yards of that play that was twenty two I don't even know how fast yes that is like relatively speaking but twenty two point eight three I think miles per hour he just for fun nothing to it just high five is teammate as he was sprinting past him and you think mahomes probably GonNa come back next week at least that's what they're saying so the six three two up in a in a pretty weak division with the raiders are in second place speaking of the NFL being a fraud who the raiders for four after eight Games and the raiders did everything they could to lose that game to the Lions yesterday that buccaneers Seattle Game Looked L. Amazingly entertaining looked like the seahawks offensively were fantastic and then you're like Oh yeah it's the bucks and so I mean you're entertained but you don't know what anything means it's we're we're in midseason for we are but you still have the Patriots now I realize a difficult portion of their schedule is coming up but they're still eight and one the next best team in the AFC it's the bills at six into it's the ravens it's six into The chief Sandy Texans are six three so the the Patriots are still pacing for you know first week by two home yes you get to a super bowl still do that they have the one hiccup where they look bad in in a game and you're always looking for the signs that say maybe this is the final the final fall and yesterday after Brady threw that up for grabs interception and and the rest of the game on the sideline just looked flummoxed and looked like he just I mean he he'd never looked like he was mentally out of control before and and I I think it looked that way yesterday and I think he was disappointed in himself but again they do this once a year but the people expect them to go I mean no one was expecting sixteen in no let's see how they play against the thing I know but we're going to do the first one it is the first one they of course once coming up they have Prescott after that they have mahomes and Shawn Watson so those are the next four games and they get the bengals offense bills I think they'll finish those are three wins right there wins already is you know it's fun I'm not worried about the big picture I think it looked worse last night because of the way the Ravens started because it felt like that patriots defense caught up a little bit in in the middle but then the ravens you know put in the dagger but people will say catching some ads say that people will say all all right the Ravens now the team to beat I'm the NFL we nothing it's a week to week thing the ravens of the team to beat the ravens loss of the browns at home that's right they did they get blown on out I was so long ago we know nothing was blowed out that was I just wanted to hear it again tomorrow on physician consultation are only available at the physician determined prescriptions appropriate subscription required full details information. 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Thanks for this Mike and now your your sports interrupdate podcast listeners you'll just have to figure it out somehow Sunday night football ravens defeated the Patriots thirty seven to twenty four Jackson was seventeen of twenty three for one hundred sixty three yards within a touchdown on the ground here in sixteen times for sixty one yards and two touchdowns nationally gold gloves catcher jt Real Mutahi first-base Anthony Rizzo second base Colton Wong Long shortstop Nick Ahmed third-base Nolan Aeronautica left Field David Peralta Centerfield Lorenzo Cain right-field cody bellinger and pitchers that grinky and finally happens to all of us Randy Moss accidentally flew Bristol Tennessee instead of Bristol Connecticut and almost Mr Peering on Sunday. Nfl Countdown Wow one hundred fiftieth anniversary of the first first game in college football history is Wednesday and this week ESPN is celebrating check out the American Game Games of the century tomorrow at Seven PM EASTERN ON ESPN two for all the latest headlines Headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day as that happened to you Bristol Tennessee Bristol Connecticut no no but I have woken up in the wrong city before because of an emergency landing and didn't know it wasn't really interesting though it wasn't I mean you put it out there it seems like something that we'd be fascinated fascinated with no no no I mean you know Bristol Tennessee Bristol. I would've stayed in Bristol Tennessee if I were him if you're Randy Moss job to do in Bristol Connecticut though that's gotTa be jarring right I'm surprised it hasn't happened to me I guess that's why I was asking I mean that's pretty far it's a pretty big distance there I mean did he get on the wrong plane or did they just what happened there I think these are issues that I can't really relate to because that's very clearly private plane situation breath the right that's a good point like by the way I'm getting this from Hembo no need for stat of the day Lamar Jackson the leading rusher on the number one rushing team in the NFL now no team has ever reached the super bowl but a quarterback as its leading rusher the last thing the lead the NFL rushing and win the super bowl was the eighty five bears I mean I watched that team last night and I don't know if they can win it all but I don't think there's really any limitations to what they can do you there's there's not I would put them in one of maybe ten teams that you wouldn't be surprised if they win the Super Bowl right is that fair there are ten teams I feel they could win the super bowl and none of us should be when we were talking last segment about who we don't know we don't even mention the packers right they look a couple of weeks ago against the raiders and then you know this happened I think they're very clearly limitations as to what that offense can do but their strengths might certainly well overcome any of the shortcoming I I think when you've got Hollywood Brown back in the mix and the way I mean look against I judge it against that defense because defense is probably gonNA scheme better than anyone else and you know oh against zero coverage against whatever they threw away what you're pests and et cetera during the broadcast they got they take away your best players you've got to beat them with the other guys is Lamar still found a way to buy enough time and beat him with the other guys and found a way to just I mean Juke the heck out of people and and run for decent amount of fifty sixty wasn't that much but they were necessary and they were affected regardless of the scheme so I just don't see much to what they see they don't have to throw it a lot that's the point they run it a lot because they can't right he was seventeen to twenty three hundred sixty three yards he ran the ball sixteen times for sixty one yards but ingram was great last night I mean they're a good team I I just love that we do this every year no one I didn't think the Patriots were GonNa Go Sixteen Oh they've lost a game and now people are writing them off Saint Tom Brady's finished and I think it's laugh out loud funny how many years we going to do this a couple of weeks removed from the NFC north being the greatest division and now that even top heavy like we don't even no way that the and ended the Patriots win three of the next four gets four very difficult opponents everyone will hop right back on the probably get probably will but one thing that won't changes what is your jets now and get to them because this organization like Mike thanks he has it bad and he does and the sheer is painful knowing definitely now but I'm saying historically I would argue the jets not has had it worse is the I am forty seven years old and and I've never seen my team play super bowl look a day over fifty one I feel it I feel like I'm seventy five right Asia this week at two dead shows and that breath fight you've never seen them playing a super bowl but they do have a super bowl championship they do my something that the browns would have had if they stayed in Cleveland but no they left Cleveland Cleveland went to Baltimore won two and my team has been a joke ever since I came back into the NFL but yeah no it's it's awful being a jets fan it like he's got a case I'm just talking does but when the jets leave New York moved to another team a city and win two super bowls we can talk that is that's fair but I'm just saying even the browns okay while all in Cleveland okay they had the Bernie Kosar years okay I understand what you're saying that's difficult they had like Mike they were one of the best organizations at football for a very long time appro long period of time that they couldn't get past the Broncos but they had Bernie Kosar byner and Kevin Mac and Marty Schottenheimer was the coach of those deeds they had a good run for like get eight years I've never had that a sustained run sustain Ron and I think if you look at era you have the Mark Sanchez era which lasted what two years it was two years and the thing you remember most from that era is the butt fumble it's not the AFC Championship Games back to back AFC championship games. If that one play that that define Mark Sanchez his career really the jets as an organization if you look at just about every other team they've had a period of time that was more than two the seasons I mean even the dolphins if you are my age forty seven you have seen the dolphins go to a few super bowls you had Dan Marino you had added ten to twelve year period where they had maybe the best quarterback in football certainly very exciting offense every team had some sort of run a prolonged period of success excess except for Mont except for mine look at every team I mean the dolphins the Browns I'm giving you laughing stocks of the NFL and those teams had prolonged sustained periods of success so is it worst it's worse to not have the prolonged success then then to have the really low lows like Oh and sixteen or never have a quarterback I've just had nothing I've never had a quarterback where the we're the organization that passes on Keto Brian Dolphins get Dan Marino I mean that's that's who we are where the where the organization that passes on Lamar Jackson it takes Sam Darnold that's who we are never get it right Izzy we never ever get it right so are you here to say officially that you got this coach wrong or do we have to recruit somebody else say that again I mean listen I'm going to stay a bunch of facts about this year but they are facts like Adam gazes my friend he's GonNa have to eat it but the facts are the facts okay and I will do that at some point in the show I'm going to unleash on that because I'm tired of this and they have tired of people mocking jet fans jet fans are are very there's a reason we act like this forty seven years I've never seen my team playing a super bowl and I've never had a sustained period of success that's ever a prolonged period of ever you know how I know this is really just had arguably the coolest moment of his professional career and one day two days later later ruined by this group of its the greatest weekend in my life it's a de show followed by the way with Moss football followed by another the judge show watching songs with Bill Walton who

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Barber In Studio, HHH/Fury, Reyes, Danis, Lauzon, More

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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Barber In Studio, HHH/Fury, Reyes, Danis, Lauzon, More

"Today's episode of area hawaii's MA show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised gentlemen welcome to your camp the people are interested in of course we have corey anderson and johnny walker on deck in november and we've got DC st bay hopefully finding at some point next year there's and now it seems like both their futures are somewhat in doubt rock hold seems a lot more i don't know a lot more closer to possible that he would never fight again widened gets knocked out in the first round and you can't help but wonder what happened to these two individuals and how different life was fighting again wiedeman certainly did not allude to that in the cage only spoken the cage but it seems like he may need to take a break and maybe you need to reassess his four years ago when they were fighting for the middleweight title four years ago december of two thousand fifteen they were the two best middleweights in the world and it seemed like they were going to be at MSG last year and that didn't come to fruition these two guys were the best and of course lew broccoli and wiedeman loss and that was kind of the beginning of move up to two oh five unfortunately for him did not go well and it's kind of crazy a day after i spoke to luke rocco than he told me that it was quote very back in your life on this monday october twenty first two thousand and nineteen logan everyone i'm mary honi welcome back to the program it's good to have you here on this lovely fall afternoon in bristol connecticut we got a lot to discuss a lot happening is always in the world of a lot of questions later in the program of course there was the greg hardy situation i'm still confused about this my early taken i'm going to talk about it in the fourth hour when we do a little news and notes a lot more sense an older pointed a show gun hooah a guy with the name maybe closer to his age and not a youngun who's just trying to knock them off in a francis and guy new out there so there's a lot of options for john jones put that one on the poll mr corporate jake over there if you're still with us put on the ball who should john jones fight next should it be ends that need to be answered coming off this weekend number one dominic grace chris wideman what a win for dominic rates he defeats chris wideman and the first route chris white men's there's john jones want that fight he seems to be talking a little bit on twitter about being interested in it but also heavyweight he's testing the waters so to speak as far as tailspin for him and rock hold loses to bist being and that was kind of the beginning of a tailspin for him and they both moved up this year to five they both got knocked out somewhat brutally on a collision course for a very long time like they weren't just going to fight once they were called the ended up getting booked to fight again at UFC ninety nine in that didn't come to fruition and then again did now there was a lot of fumbles of the ball leading up to that point but i actually think they jumped the gun by overturning it so soon somewhat unprecedented do that that quickly to overturn something literally route to john jones but that's the way you have see bookstore fights and that's the way they will continue to book their fight so now it seems like dominant graces in the driver's seat for john jones well spot as far as where he's fighting maybe one eighty five is better for him but you'll recall i said i did not like this batch of it i know that i'd say this each and every time i did not like this matchup 'cause i thought there was no need for chris whiteman a segment for all of you but my take right now on this monday afternoon i think massachusetts may have jumped the gun on this one nowhere in their rules does it state you can't do what greg hardy dominic reyes winners corey anderson versus johnny walker winner of DC steep add heavyweight or let's throw out the wildcard francis and gun and then we'll check back in to fight dominic reyes in his first fight to five especially coming off that lay off the next surgery and a recent knockout against shock ray soza to mean opponent over to share thank figure i know that i mean the baggage is just two tons in terms of weight but i really do think they jumped barbara with a phenomenal performance joel lows on with phenomenal performance charles rosa with a big win although i think that he may have grabbed onto the cage there but hey it's like the great eddie guerrero that's my assessment right now but way more on that later on it was it was entertaining card overall the year rodriguez jeremy stevens fight which was great finally we saw that come to fruition the pro and has looked very good in my opinion stoppage wins nine of them in the first round also joined by triple h and tyson a couple of hours after the fight it was weird i mean marc ratner is on TV saying it's illegal the broadcasters legal where does it say what he did was illegal and i know this guy is not as as well so we got a lot going on i'll share some some news of you talk about a big show we have planned for your next week there's a lot happening so stick with us here and we're going to have fun for the next sean brady brandon allen overall pretty good night for boston area fighters so that was friday with PF l. playoffs we've got a big weekend coming up with the u. of c. back in singapore velasco's talk as well so that should be fun stay tuned for that dylan danis made news last week helping out a youngster who was bullied in his school getting him some martial arts classes said if you're not cheating you're not trying not to suggest he did that on purpose but it did seem like he was using the cage it didn't see it so it's hard to overturn that molly mccann randy cost on saturday there four hundred and ninety ninth event headlined by damian my versus ben ash grand there's a lot going on as always i'll talk about conor mcgregor later in the program barbara join us in studio in about twenty minutes time talk about her rise to prominence but first let's say hello to our first guest of the day this man thirteen UFC finishes that's the most lightweight history fifteen wins is the fourth most in UFC lightweight history fifteen bonuses tied for second most bonuses in you three and a half or so hours let me tell you about today's lineup and then we'll get to our i guess of the day three forty pm will be joined by molly mccann meatball molly had a nice win on fridays has returned to the UFC as i fight in five hundred and fifty nine days was victorious on friday in his home state of massachusetts he's one of the legends of the sport sorry at the same time they're they are tessier making his pro wrestling debut on october thirty first crown jewel in saudi arabia will talk to them about how this deal got done a little cain she's on a bit of a streak these days three and one now and the UFC always fun to talk to her and i also have a bone to pick with her so we'll get to that when we speak at three forty dominic reyes will join us nick after his big win over james vick while i've read that wrong and he'll be joining us at two twenty so stay tuned for that coming off a big win in tampa macy barber the aforementioned macy okay so so obviously you like you need to make changes after losing three straight was there ever point where you thought you were done go three twenty we'll talk to him about the big win over wiedeman will he get john jones next what does he have to do is undefeated twelve in the UFC sixty no in the AFC tova nine history with nate diaz and it was the second one at the garden and there he is the one and only joe lausanne kind enough to join us joe how are you how's it going camp wasn't that long really how long was this cat it was close i don't know suspect was april last year i'd say like november we started like really picking it out in like going really well congratulations on the win what is it about you fighting TD like it seems like i'm reminded of like the super mario brothers video game now your gamer my my knowledge of video games doesn't extend much stat but it's like you got the mushroom and power up and you're just like in total beast mode what's going on like what are you feeling when you're fighting out there just enough the crowd and everything was moons as i know he's a polarizing figure but a good thing that dylan dana's did a mench like thing if you will we'll talk to him about that at two forty a lot of you gave me crap for not having nico price on the program last week since january i think we've been living here why were you out for so long for so long so it's an takes time to me the sense that they were trying to build jonathan pearce off of you i noticed you sit in the prefight like i'm not gonna let this guy get a w. off of me especially in my in my hometown essentially like did you changes like it's not as simple as i've done this three times so i can i can reprogram it pretty easily it takes a long time so we added a dish australian coach starting to a new strategy you feel like you've reached the point where maybe you're going to be used as a stepping stone and you're not really quite comfortable with that role just yet that's how every five is ever going to be old habits so i needed the time and to be clear this isn't platinum mike perry right they are different confusing furnaces coach chink program new skills strength with mike perry during a whole bunch of stuff there it just takes time it doesn't it doesn't happen fast you can't i've been doing it takes a long time to break so i just an additional was it wasn't like it was a replacement was part of the delay because this card was in boston in other words if this car would have been an august returned in august on november your wanted to fight i talked to dana in in shock shelby unlike any december december the people because you've you've been with those same figures for so long you feel like it's an awkward conversation when you're trying to introduce new characters to the team no because it was like kicking knees or elbows things like that so i still work with the amaze on the boxing handsome but we've got additional coachwork outsmart kick defense and an elbows had and we got after you're you're you're very loyal guy you strike me as a very loyal guy you have a lot of the same people that have been around you for a long time is it hard to bring in going into the last one that i lost you know we thought we'd done everything right we'd we'd made some good changes at that point and and i was so confident was going away we said over and over we need some more exaggerated changes so that's what we did we took time took time off game a good time to clear my head healed much of it you know stupid nagging annoying jews culver first time like they weren't expecting me to be vulgar but i beat him so i used him as a stepping stone on timing every single fight ever gonna see that's what this sport is you know yeah yeah nine years ago you've see one eighteen and the performance was like almost a mirror image you against gabe ruediger like the performance on friday it felt like revis like that so it was amazing to see you fight in boston again because you're the only one who was on that car that was also the first ever boston card which feels like a century ago in fact i and i told him i want to fight and they will couples kind of dragging their feet and then i was thinking like march or april and that did happen then maybe july you're getting the water was that something you specifically worked on for this fight to try to trap his arm like that it was very impressive to watch especially to see how long you're able to keep it for and the same thing where you were just like throwing him around and just super strength also were you getting flashbacks of that time nine years ago as well when you're in there a little different there so it was horns always stepping stone like everyone's always trying to build any ever see is someone else getting kicked in the face or submitted or dumped the head or something like that like it's that's just the sport we have is yeah i mean you've done this long enough but your first win in almost three years what does it feel like on the monday to get that feeling back after the losing streak like do you feel like you appreciate this it did happen in an eight ounce of boston card so that it was it made sense the week for october but a delayed a little bit but it was gonna happen regardless did on his part the fact that tap because i feel like i would have kept like two seconds into that i prioritize my shoulders are not flexible i probably just after i saw that like that was it were you feeling that he might just tap from that he could've tapped for that but that wasn't what i was looking for everyone in the AFC is tough like i didn't expect i pushed out just ask people for long time i had seen as my strength coach he's a he's a boxing coach he's a he's my boxing coach that's why you don't see much he's in all kinds of stuff that just an extra like seem as you can tell me so many everybody he can think of to keep my hands out but if i'm not getting my hands someone else to slap me around and give you the heads up really pick up on that but that's that's something we've been working on so that was your fifteen to win as a UFC lightweight and i know that it's kind of common for you to win a little more now i appreciate it a little bit more now i mean it's it's been saliva i was super motion lake so we had already been talking about it a lot but we had yeah i understand happens all times i don't know but maybe you understand you understand why yeah you noted in the post fight interview that you kind of like you rag on those guys who cry in the in the post fight interview and you'd want to be ones that what's wrong with crying i think it's great i felt like i was just saying composure the entire time like i just i felt really good i felt in control every second so that photo right over there like when you have his arm trap like it was it was just a really yeah i love that randy continues to hold up the photo of devon ways in and after the fact i think it's an amazing thing there was dominant both ways but with game it was like i was starting around on the ground and in all you know i felt like we started with stand up stuff i felt like my hands a lot better i let punches the biggest thing was we had a really long camp but everything was great it was awesome boston fight home when you say a really long camp like i mentioned the five hundred fifty nine days i'm assuming does it had been so long fight back in boston i'm thinking about devin is just like it was tough it was like and then win the fight is it goes the fight goes perfect and i'm like on the verge of crying the entire time have i really good friends with demi carrier die a couple of years ago and he was like one of our main channel partners like he was one of our guy he would guard with us if you still around like he's just like super opposition was not something where the dow dot like i love to clinch with people take down different trips throws so the the throw hit him with the i do i do i still think it's a bad look i'm mad at myself for crying a little bit but i can't i guess some regret was that the determine your entire career that you've ever cried after fight i think my wife see me cry like twice ever legal my dog died when my son was born i think that's about it that's really is this on camera anywhere we haven't somewhere did you ever share it i don't know if we shared it i don't think we shared it we have it though i haven't okay and you annoyed after that you know he he he i'm sure his shoulders really sore bruised more so about to control you know if he can't get his up without he can't get his easy can't tiny can't you can't get away he was i have to ask you about the the post fight stuff so dana white said that you guys had a deal that you would retire with a victory this accurate did you have the steel and did you break the deal ah we don't win this one and we'll probably done this is the end of the line and then the last one i'm like oh i don't i don't really think of that you know i think we need to you know be a little bit more unexpected like i wasn't like i don't get emotional things usually but then you know they're doing intros that constantly on the microphone like all my coaches they set it up we care about we don't want you to get hurt you as my coach does not want you to fight and which is true mazes don't want me to fight and i kept pushing pushing pushing i say look i'm going to do so when i texted dana i told dan look you know give me one more shot if the fight does not go well i promise you'll never hear from me again and that's what has he said deal we're very watching him a little bit but that was it wait a second burt watson keeps her wedding and that led you to cry because it was different things if i do these things are you kidding me fighting they came up with this big extensive list of things i wanted to do and i did every single bang so that like okay we'll let you fight he was coming they sent somebody sent you to the airport picked him up for the wedding no idea wow it was pretty cool it was something we worked on a lot a lot of people miss it too but i hit the body was confirmed he was going down i kind of jumped up and try to spite my shoulder in his face a little bit and closing the door is all i'm saying usually it's like when you have a fight it's like there's location opponent in date in generally has to get to get to them you're in good shape you take the fight aside is the end of the career that this end zone is the end where are you right now on that field i'm in the red zone okay i don't think that you know i don't it to me but i said hey if it doesn't go well i'm one hundred percent done and he said deal so that was that was it i understand you know he his mind all then expected heavy crowds we did he do that whole thing like it's time to roll and all that you didn't expect it is that what happened when you walked out yes the have six more fights but maybe one or two maybe not like i'm not you know my jiminez well my gym sinisa massachusetts link and all of the is around you england they all come to me like the guy driving from hours away two three hours away come and train with us every saturday morning rod flying cater dan powell people dragged from ever inaccurate okay man earned i don't change anything i so i dan dana said basically the gist is that i wanted to fight he said you know we kid so there was a lot of stuff going on and like just because it was like it was such it was in the forefront of everything we're doing very walkout like virgil tears like wait walkout boxing coach teammates doesn't want you to fight are there other members of your team who say the same and is it hard to get them on board when they're saying openly we don't want you to keep doing this if i'm gonna fight again it'll have to be perfect austin opponent like the date but we'll see maybe i'm okay i mean i i don't think i can add it better than we did so aw because i think too many guys like the way to translate understands and i think not not saying anything now i wanna talk about devon in the post fight interview i just did 'cause i would've been waterworks right away so we didn't get into it but you never make a decision when you're emotional not make any big decisions because it happened i really what i was going to do like i didn't know i was going to you know stoppage like you know i do that all the time and if i could guarantee now happen every time they'd be on board with me anytime i wanted but just more fr losy do one more boston like there's no better way to end this i understand like you know the deal i i definitely understand but i'm just not i'm not one hundred percent always he's gonna wanna do it again you know about day at either what does your wife say she is super supportive whatever wanna do she knows she knows she sees me training but i'm just not gonna i hate when people all retired and they you know they come back you know six months eight months a year later in so i'm just gonna i don't want to go on san retire but unlikely i've had some fights that were kind of wars but my coaches were they were all on the same page instead if i did you know certain things and then they're on board with refunding yet and i did fighting again but we'll see not ready to hard percent be retired just yet did you talk to dana after the fight did he say yeah what was my retirement announcement i texted shirt like he's gonna want it again you know he i think he wanted me to have like a a tougher fight in a win in the end but when i go out there and blows out than now if that's the end of the nets yeah that's cool that's great if you know i'm just not gonna commit to it just yet okay let's say your career was a football field and you're going from this side to this side are you know come up with the place NHL gems while gems doing very well so i don't i don't eat to fight it's not like it's a money thing i just i of super competitive i was super boil i'm sure we'll talk about it again i wanna fight again i'm sure off to deal with david with dana so we'll say yeah they might not they might not just ever offer you a fight again they're just gonna freeze you out now like that like you know i've had a whole bunch of fun tonight so i'm not looking for those fights i'm not trying to end up in the hospital i want every fight to be like friday was you don't go there don't take you down beat him up great from a game chemotherapy he's all the cancer's gone but it damages hearing a little bit so he has like some monitoring author just kind of a big deal but he submission as an expert you're the expert you have a problem with that like should that not counted him holding onto the cage with his toes like that heart she sees me doing everything i can to prepare she's on board you know she doesn't wanna see anymore you know and he fights like ago right things they'll be like that but south i hope at some point he realizes how good your performance was i just wanted to ask you about something because you're so smart when it comes to this stuff you know i mentioned the randy cost he does great he he's he's a trooper awesome does he go to your fights he wants to the democracy fights ago in brooklyn oka- he didn't really understand will who says you're doing great but he just wrote to us joe needs a new chair so what's going on with this chair jim grab onto the cage so i think in that regard i think it's okay i also don't think charles is a hundred percent in control it's facing ring out wrestling if you know like even like despite we watch the next day and he was kind of paying attention what he's life doesn't he doesn't quite get it when he when he gets older i think you all he goes i would just you know i always text thank you see opportunity you know i was expecting our time we speech and i heard about comments yet okay so i i like a good crying session here and they're kinda i'm kinda hated for that these days but hey that's just me congrats enjoy it and if this is the end thank you for everything but is up there but it's yeah you should have went on the other side that's right yeah all right all right okay it adds character congratulations on that win man it was great to see aw no it's the big thing is if i'm not if i'm not going to be prepared to fight and they don't wanna see me get hurt which i understand that i don't want to new york hospital achieve so supportive she's so good i'll my second son was when she got pregnant my second son jake she didn't tell me till after the fight she like we can have before she didn't tell me because you don't want to distract me she just and by the way just one all you know i like seeing the emotion all right i think it's great to see a little motion so don't beat your beat yourself up too bad about that enjoy i'm just saying happens it doesn't it doesn't matter okay good insight there by the way i have a tweet here from callum earl you could bring the microphone right over there to you it's okay we have those things thanks for coming macy thank you that's my velazquez toy the happy things you always talk about early is good as your last fight like i was super happy with my last fight i'm very happy with my with my life right now so so maybe maybe we'll get with the done might might okay i'll ask them then i'll i'll start photoshop and stuff in post instagram and i'll just talk shit like oh it's okay all right the cable being careful down like aw yes well i appreciate you doing this and in fact i'm like i was nervous about you like i don't root for people to win inappropriate but your dad is a very small russell obviously randy costs charles rochon excuse me i think it's okay i think that the rule is that is not you can't put your fingers through or your toes you sit you cannot it's macy's barbara's here how great is this hello may see how are you we like to just have people walk in we don't take commercial breaks on the show you probably know that already it is i have a great share house but it looks comfortable but you were on ESPN here joe we expect a little he can't see that's all i have a great relationship with with everyone like again you know it's not going to be like an overnight decision was is it awkward like you mentioned your longtime all right thanks for doing this show all the best you congrats and you all right there is joe lows on big win for him and yet at the top i said randy cost i meant to say charles rosa with that submission like she's super wife she's awesome how's your older son doing your oldest you always yoga you'll be sick today he still get here here's but his hearing is doc i and i enjoy working with him and he helps me get in contact with you he reached out to me like a month and a half or two months ago once you're out and said hey we're going to be in the area there you have it from the expert himself and i'll take his word for it so that was a great performance or a ton of great performances let's say hello to another person who had a great it's great i mean it feels it feels great and i came out of that fight uninjured super happy nervous about that i was i think that was one of the biggest things i was i was we started like a three to five year old class that i teach for all of our kids we call tainting ju jitsu so he understands like a lot of the moves and things like that now so he was like nervous for but i felt relieved after the fight was just you know i didn't wanna come out and not be able to go back to the jim so that was one of the biggest things was the can macy come after the fight and i was like yeah for sure but don't we have to have the fight for what if you lose you know things can happen complete confidence like you guys book this i'm sitting there i don't have it all planned out but it's usually when i have house wrapping my hands i i start to think of some things or i just grab a sharpie from someone and i'm like i start writing on my hands and it does he requested i failed i i didn't do my job but he requested takedown tribal joke for jesus i have a feeling you're you're leaving the door open which by the way i respect as well a lot of fighters they retire and then they come back and it's all very confusing no one's forcing you to say i knew that i wanted to put in that i'm staying undefeated on one of my hands but other than that i actually broke i on losing shell when i plan on winning so and then we saw your gloves afterwards you wrote a no or someone wrote it who wrote that i did you wrote that and so they were all given it as never been so happy to be wrong you know they they showed a clip master the fight where like the rest stops it just puts his face down some kind of something that i started but i write on my hands and i read on my raps ing my gloves or just like whatever your whatever comes to my mind when i don't want to give them any advantage whatsoever so kind of ignoring it was the was the route i took and i had a lot of people always sending me stuff like oh did you see she sent you this she said in your career right like the next chapter you were fighting a different level of opponent and this was the kind of opponent who was going to give you the toughest of your career did you listen to any of the things that she said did of your career right like the first time you had surgery that was the first surgery at my career yes the fight before the i partially tore my knee so i came from one injuries and the next like the trash talk was intense but she was very confident as well and she was feeling yourself as she should have been choose coming off a nice win like it felt like this was this representative having me just it's great to have you here welcome to bristol connecticut ESPN first time this is my first time we actually drove here from boston what do you think it's beautiful i feel like i should i talk a lot of crap in and i do a lot of that i don't necessarily play into everyone else's you know i feel like it should be you know feel that from her and were you using that as motivation going into this fight i definitely was using ass motivation but i didn't really play into it because i don't want to give people the credit okay with that so good jillian was on a bit of a roll and i also feel like this was the first time and correct me if you feel otherwise where like okay they have like gonna wipe the wall you can't see what they've read on the walls destroy everything but i mean the chair is like really beat up i mean next morning i woke up and i'm like man i could go to the gym tomorrow this feels amazing like in the camp were you thinking about it a lot no i wasn't here i mean the trees and the leaves they're changing so i think it's a great time to come out it's like a sports wonderland you big this capital my ashes kind of leaned forward a little bit put it pushed through you know i don't think that rosa was trying to put his toast you to get leverage i think in the referee didn't see it so i don't think it matters regardless of what if something pop up in six months or a year and it has come out you know whatever so i'm just leave their open we'll see what happens if you don't have to be you know everything to light out for me to do it again but we'll see so you're you're in we talked about we were like well we're we're going to be like really close so might as well go out there and and i don't book a fight knowing planning on planning like put a cross on it and i was like all right i gotta put electra electra love into this hand because you want to come out of this by uninjured so it worked how was it now save after the vine did it with whatever i was kinda i kinda stayed the course hot not you know deciding either way but that was like you know nearly crime is out so oh ignore everything on social media so i go on do my business and then i get out okay unique comments and things like that no you don't check on her at all this she posted this and i was like i don't wanna talk about it you know i'm going to the gym going to train so on one hand i do go out i post a lot of stuff on social media but at the same time i also biggest cheerleader than than who is you know so yeah that's that's kind of where the confidence comes from as i used to be myself and your your biggest fan because some point in your life you're always gonna have you're always gonna have people who are trying to shoot you down and if you're not you're your biggest fan and and over and over in my head every single night all the way up until the fight so yeah if i lay in bed and i started to watch film then i'm going to really have a hard time falling asleep this defeat ever my mind if i know that i'm going into a fight like you have to be my first coach told me this ryan schultz he told me you have to be your your your cheerleader you're your own cheerleader due to fix every mistake that they made in her previous fight so if i go and watch the film myself i'm going to be looking for things that she's she's done in the past in that all play the fight in my head and actually have to work for the finisher i'll have to work through a scenario rather than just going out and just completely dominating so it's like i fight that fight over is over oliver fights and then come and present those to me and then we'll we'll pick up and train off for those but i don't want to obsess over something that could okay so i don't wanna be relying on something that she's not gonna show if if she's constantly improving so i kind of leave that up to my team and my coaches to find out the habits that she can continuously but a it's all work you know you just know you're ready i just know i'm ready yeah i came into that fight i wasn't even nervous into this last fight you know i had it if you times during the camp but i just came into this feeling really confident in where i was in i was ready you know so it's hard to let end i don't let doubt and assistance and they talk about how they're going to do XYZ like we saw it without a sonya recently he's talked about doing x y and z and he's done it all what does that come from is that just something that you were born with i've said this on multiple interviews before it comes from a lot of the hard work that we put in you know it's not just me that puts in the work it's my team my family my coaches in your mind is there a time there is not a single night that i laid in bed and my hand wasn't raised at the end of the night at the end of the fight i may have had to work a little bit harder in my head to to get that win but it was always i come out winning were you know like i wish your confidence is so oppressive club every once in a while and once he told me that i was like no never again you know 'cause i have to be on my side all the time so you heard duke rufus and the rest of the team different cannot be shown in the fight but like you're you're sitting you're in bed you're trying to you let me pull a youtube and i won't sleep really i wanna sleep if i knew that i'll start to think about it i picture the fight in my head and replay it and in my own head and i actually like play the fight out and i'm like all right this scenario this scenario and some nights like all land for sport in your corner is this the team now so i feel like you've you've you've been around i have been everybody's like you've been jumping from gym to gym and was this your first time with ed and the fight will be perfect and all like see it clearly of like how i would win or how i can win or or how each round would go and then other nights it's like a little thing with your dad booking you to come writing that i'm trying to say that you're the only coughed info UFC this is something we've seen from a lot of the greats right they almost like will these things into so the way i look at it is if i go on and i watched her film and i expect someone to kind of treat a treat it you know if i go out and i watched film i'm expecting them it has a seven year old is an eight year old or is this something that you worked on over your outspoken person but in terms of the confidence this is my first camp full campus bar and honestly i'm happy with where i'm at how did you end up there how did i we moved to wisconsin to to train ben aspirin i i moved we moved it last november wow and then right as soon as my last fight so against JJ which i jumped back because i wasn't had i didn't have my heart fully set in wisconsin yet so i got offered the fight i went right back to colorado jim i camp there and then i had the surgery and that was when i could sit down and i was like all right now i have time to think about it i should probably give another chance and you look at all the credentials they have at that team and it's like why would i not give this this camp a chance right so i did and i couldn't be happier duke rufus is is phenomenal ben aspirin i mean everybody at rufus sport it's just an amazing team in i came into this fight feeling one hundred percent ready and feeling like there was no question in my mind of anything like i wasn't concerned about any position wasn't thinking about like oh what if she does this does this i was ready so i can't wait to have another camp just like that and i'm happy with where i'm at afford you lou from milwaukee i'm kind of impact green i'm like fifteen minutes away i was gonna say i'm kinda in between here and there but i can't really explain it probably wouldn't know no your sibling watching him yeah okay i it's hard for me i can't even imagine what my family goes through but it's hard for me to watch people that i know care about an especially my brother i mean it's it's crazy you can't go in that you can't do anything for your very helpless and you can't you can't like throw a strike you can't change a position you can't you know move as well my whole family moved removed just for you my brothers well brother wyatt barber he's he had his first fight so he's actually going to fight against soon this right now we've talked about the psychology behind how to build your career call it the right people make some headlines do you speak to him about that stuff we have after the flight and i'm wondering if any of his fight promotions skills has rubbed off on you a little bit have you talked to you about the art of you know he's great yeah i got a first round finish he did he won i was in his corner and i cried it was very emotional for me probably more nervous for that than your own fight and i think november twenty second pro amateur i believe maybe pro well it was the first one go it would good you know he got that i buy out of the way he so i feel like pretty smart as but he's added a lot to that you know it's like we were texting back and forth all day yesterday all day today of like all right well you know art so you mentioned been aspirin it seems like perhaps he's taking you under his wing a little bit i was tired i didn't know that you guys were working together then i kind of went back and looked but i was talking leaving and i wouldn't wanna be hit by me any more than she did so personally i think it was a fine stop it who has that kind of mentality is like just listening to someone like that talk i pick up a lot so so this is your first time working with them yes this is my i did this camp with him fight any of these girls so that was kind of like the biggest thing but yeah in terms of promotion like he's he's taught me a lot and just being able to speak with someone that was not an early stoppage i mean you could say it's an early stoppage if if you wanna let her have some more brain damage but there was no getting out of that and it was only gonna get worse from there so why why let them take that much trauma you know she's twenty four years old she's got a she's got a whole career of her and if i was on the so what you're gonna say and here's this you're gonna call out and who's this and and you know i mean we talked about different people but at the same time we were also talking about how i'm not afraid whether i'm healthier not like that's just a phenomenal place to go in and get physical therapy nutrition that diagnostics like everything is countdown to january fifteen thousand and twenty two eight hundred seventeen days away to become the youngest champion UC history are we are we on track still is i mean if you look at the last three that i've had hannah ciphers that was not an early stoppage jay eldredge that was not an early stoppage and same thing with jillian i mean in in the talk of the fans and you're you're staying consistent you're keeping the winds i think you're fine but i mean right now i'm happy with twenty five all right but yeah i definitely should be up there now we have the clock how how far away is she from the milestone that she's trying to reach we have this corporate jake there right no way i could see in the next the next year so next year like this time next year you have fought for the belt i would like to yeah okay whereas he whereas the like i haven't seen him fight in in how long in i'm below him so i don't know i i thought i should have been up there share a couple months ago as you may know asked her about you wanna play the clip for those who may have missed it and then we'll get your reaction to it okay here's patriots and just a couple of months ago i feel like we we get off the train a little bit right i kind of actually only because i feel like as long as you're you're consistent fighter and you're you're still staying in i do think that there are certain disrespect in the UFC and MMA gets too much attention in it gets too much ah you know i didn't have the days you don't have it on your phone any deal but it's like years and months and eight seventeen away what did to be amazing if you get in three hundred days and we can revert back to this that you broke five hundred days i mean to crush better integrate what do you think what's your prediction now you're not going to go down to the wire and it's free i mean as a as an athlete why wouldn't you take advantage of that you know they're only trying to help you and they have an amazing team out there and yeah so validity disrespect being disrespectful ended this okay being disrespectful person should not be valued i definitely won't okay i won't achieved every week but we're should you have been going into that fight you think number one i mean actually believe i am number one i looked at those those numbers and i saw sean o'malley and i plan on finding the next one is twenty five we'll see about one fifteen you know that's all up to the performances too as well because they're the ones that have been helping me with this this whole journey of on any connected her line though she did i told them are the UFC brass into this what are the like completely inappropriate to slide into somebody's husband's DM's get a fight she did that yes so there's no story this program talking about macy by the way see barbara taking shots off always i don't know i think it's just part of the division right there and in terms of disrespect gosh if i didn't like someone and i thought they disrespected me i would really want of course everybody wants the money and there's just there's people in line so are you interested in that fight i think definitely isn't interesting fight eat them up and i've said this before and the fact that she can't beat me up as why she's trying to come up with an excuse that's my opinion in terms of the d. so many flights is that how many more fights and i think that's probably two or three okay i feel like we need to stick to one twenty five i heard you talking about one fifteen if you bounce up and down of going builder i've after every i'd go there for at least a week i usually book that trip out like right away survey okay so a lot there what do you think of all the first of all how many times did she stutter in that in that whole bit so twenty one now right you're twenty one we actually the thing last week top twenty five under twenty five fighters in DC this i don't remember where you up i think you ended up six salty we wrong about virtue goes to change it now that you've seen last by worse in his backyard like the whole thing set up wow it's it's amazing so obviously the headline after the by the way were you okay with the stoppage he thought it was you've see want this fight as well to the best of your knowledge is i know yeah we all want it everyone everyone wants except for page okay so which is understandable page was sitting in this i'd say so wouldn't you i kind of feel like it's going a little quicker than i thought yeah right i mean to be happier with that number knowing that that's how long i have in after every site and then usually all book a trip every like four or five weeks there and make like a couple of days so after the of course you talked about page let's go have you done the gulf in his house now i haven't but i've been to his house times he took me around show me the whole course i've actually never played this gulf so it's an actual which is fine i mean the other thing that was going to say is i lost what i was saying something about her being disrespectful or meeting she said you you've been disrespected created a story that a lotta people wanna see you know because it's like the battle between the two girls are having some beef so yeah where does this come from did you respond now okay and as i've stayed relatively quiet about this but it's like no i'm not going to reward disrespectful people it would be a reward for her to fight me oh who's who's beautiful and talented and she's well spoken and she has all these things and we think she can fight right so they built her up the social media and the fans that that a lot of people wanna see and then the way i look at it is and i've said this before she didn't hold up the deal you know she she came into the UFC suggest like hey can i get that radio like i didn't even think anything of it because along with us i couldn't even tell you honestly i know okay wow so you when you posted that did that did they respond to you at all does this not true to the matter if they ignored you since page now they've ignored me austin said was it was for work i remember sitting with coach we were looking at like different workout videos and it just so happened to be his instagram i didn't even pay attention i spend i want to know a workout routine did you work out that you're doing it doesn't even weird anyways was this in the midst of her calling you out really the only reason why i wouldn't get this fight if she decided to retire from finding okay and then i feel like right there is where her social media and her ability so many other girls out there like me who work our butts off day in and day out i would tell her so i wanna take that from her you know i want i want to go uh-huh i was just like a that was like her only grab an excuse to not vote really happen did i really saw yeah and it was exactly what to continue to grow on instagram make more money kind of stops it kind of plateaus because the reason why she's that high of a profile person is because of what she's done is being disrespectful and yes she didn't want to take the bait how did she not take the bait she took the bait did she not take the bait well i will admit i feel like most people why her at first it was really just a fight that i really wanted viewed her as another big followings he's got a you know she has all of the let's see the fight because of the disdain that she has she spoke my name and she talked about our our little controversy here so i feel like she gave me the time of day and she kind of took the bait and thank you very craft you did this all on your own yes take me like two minutes and laugh to my butt off about it now what is that someone is sending you hear someone that i know of but i even went back and tried to find that because i was on a screen shot and send it to you they deleted it so there's when you absolutely nothing to do with you yes absolutely she has not wanna fight has one fight left on our deal yeah right she said on the show that she makes more money furred you to her yeah i mean we've talked about it several times we tried to get her to fight me i offered to her when rachel couldn't fight i view it as someone like that girl that girl so beautiful she doesn't even belong in in the position in the AFC that she's in because posting on instagram from sponsors ads than fighting in the US's so do you feel like she just may never come like you won't get this fight because of that i mean i think that can't get page is there anyone else that you're calling people out in knowing what you want there's a few names we've looked at the rankings and colder under the deal she didn't continue to evolve as a fighter in instead she fell into the fame and scrape for her that's the past she wants to take but i've been non stop talking to them about getting and what did he say they're working on it i think they're working on it pretty hard we'll see now let's just say worst case scenario she was there and now she's gone so she and held up into the deal and i think that's kind of kind of where ends have you ever met her i have i met her one time when ah look contender series and on the same card as austin which again is another reason why i thought sliding into DM's it'd be okay because they sent me through instagram they actually a complete joke i was just mocking her because i thought it was hilarious some some guy yup some someone sent me a screen shot and i switched it and i put his instagram handle at the top all quite i feel like the gap between valentina and the rest of the class is the biggest as far as anyway class in the AFC you know what i mean like she's just that much and the UFC b-actor and they gave her all of these the support and built her as an athlete and were they viewed her as okay here's a here's a girl and with the UFC so without that without fighting and doing what she was originally doing i mean i think that people are going eventually kind of be like all right well at the time taken the bait now i'm going to take the bait and that's why i've seen stayed relatively slightly entitled entire time i actually was going to say yes to the fi and me a message i they sent me a picture because page took a picture of my team so it was like all right we're fine like yeah i wanna fight you i know that we want to go back and forth but i thought we were all right so like there's no one out there even if three or four times that can give her a tough fight i think so you know you wanna be the one to beat her she thinks you're like creeping on her on her husband she doesn't like you i think i think that was her only excuse she knows i'm not creeping on her husband i don't want her husband she can have him so has the UFC wins that me a just saying i mean they sent their dog and then hey come on yeah i thought it was pretty clever i thought it was hilarious try to try to fight the other person they're supposed to bring the fight to you and they're supposed to try to take the belt from you right so i thought that she fought was very smart in the sense of there's several girls but honestly anyone in the rankings i'm not afraid to fight any of them so bring it on like the rest of the class right now is you feel like the fans get uncomfortable when a woman talks trash like you do like that they feel like oh that's a man thing to do and the female fighters shouldn't act like that they shouldn't talk page and i was like yeah let's do it and then he was injured last time that she was still injured had to have surgery so we kind of talked to them on friday about about this i completely agree i completely agree that is a valid statement she is a dominant champion and no way to prove that unless they have it she could totally go and post it like go for i don't care post that you posted on i think we have it that was a joke where you posted yeah why not i mean she's getting older and i'm continuously getting better and yeah i mean as far as other other women coming up i haven't seen any really rachel was able to fight so obvious that it was like okay let's fight she's good but we've tried several times when i went in the back and i talked with dana he was like well how about that as much as people may like it also find the you get a lot of hate for it as well i think the more the higher up you become on social media or the the female fighters feel like i like for example jillian she was like her mouth gets her a lot of places i think the reason why a lot of women say that is because they can't do it payment for me you know like i do have a a genuine like enjoyment for for the banner back and forth and for the the making people so i don't i think it's a little bit of i don't know if it's jealousy or or what but but i think it's it comes from an uncomfortable position from the so you just you just met messaging my husband on instinct i don't know trying to beat me try to you i'm sure like just talking smack in the DM's now and then the rest of the divisions pretty wide open yeah so do you feel like by the time you make it to this date whenever you're going to break this record that john jones said that she'll still be the you know just just keeping herself composed and not putting yourself in a bad position but liz never really tried to go after her and take that fight from her the people you admire bits and pieces there's like bits and pieces from conor mcgregor from ben from like a lot of different athletes you know there's just some some clever make money and build this is because i can and intern that's gonna help UFC that's going to help me so it's kind of a win win for everybody you feel like you're getting a lot of aren't by your side throughout the career i'm sure get stressful as at times sometimes you know the parents are sitting in the stands not in the locker room or helping to manage the careers what does their own personality and i think it's something that the one all the women's divisions need actually they need kind of like that bad guy so i saw some people say i've see you're you're happy with it but what did you think you know i've heard a lot of people saying that it was stopped too soon and then i've heard a lot of people saying oh let me see barbara always gets these early stoppages the bad girl so i think i kind of filled that role and i liked doing it because it's something i enjoy causing a little bit of drama and and it's more mm-hmm but everyone's different you know like some people can do it some people can't and and it's just what it's it's what they are you know it's it's like for you it's a lot i actually had my entire family out with me so for this fight even i even my sister fly out but my family over from the hotel de la venue and he put a post up on instagram and it was it was saying how for the first time ever he was not nervous and he's like the biggest one that gets the most all right they're not afraid to say what they want in the weight of you is i shouldn't be either because at the end of the day all i really want to build a successful career and feel uncomfortable so yeah they're people you watched or still watch like as inspiration league are there are people that you like that guy that knows how to do right like the trash-talk building trash do you think they like that or dislike that you get the sense you get because i noticed when i say that you're on the show people like she's big mouth and all this stuff she thinks that she's so great do get a lot of hate view i thought that that was a smart fight for her to fight because you know she's as a champion you're not supposed to go out there and just like nervous out of everybody in my family and he put this post up and he was like all the nights that you would be in the head and all the days that we went and had pokey together and i want to necessarily feel like some of the pressure even though they're like there's no pressure you know it's it's you and and we support you one hundred percent but at the same time i'm like you always want to make your parents proud now what is it like you're closer dad your dad non your corner though right he's not he was in the back with me though so i mean this is an interesting thing having i don't know if there's any in any other promotions that could potentially be signed but i haven't done too much extra research would you think for against me it's not mind because interesting we're just so close and i i really want them there and and that's something that i hope is is there forever and and i can't see them ever leaving my corner either sometimes but i wouldn't want any other way you know i mean i have my brother he was a he was the biggest trading partner i had for this entire camp and we were actually writing it it's kind of like a it's an un unsaid desire yeah unspoken desire for both of us to just continued you always wanna make your family proud so i know the sacrifices that they put in to me and i know the effort that they put in and that's that's always kind of on the back of my head so that's why it gets the things they say but it's kinda hard to like repeat them because you don't want to necessarily repeat them but you're like okay i could take that put in my back pocket and save river for another very close you know and so some days i feel i feel good and i can talk to them and then other days i'm like man i just i just need a little bit of breathing space just because i don't want to relationship forever it's like clockwork every time you fight i'll get like three or four messages for managers who manages macy is a silhouette everyone and i'm wondering if you feel like this do you want to at some point you think it won't be the case you feel like this is good for now because you're so young early in your career or do you feel like a from a perspective i think they could have been like that was a boring fight that was bad you know but for me i'm like wow that was that was a smart move on her team in her play right the sharks they know everybody's like all men her dazzling manager and i mean honestly that's a good team because if i didn't have in this on his his his his boxing son not as much information 'cause like that yeah there's there's been tons garcia but there's not gnaws much in no more space like i moved out of an apartment and i have my own space in terms of that but if ever comes the day where my family's not in my corner it'll be by the bigger person or bigger name that you become more hate you're going to have that follows that from other fighters some of them are going to like it some of them are going to hate it in terms of women i think a lot of the this could be the way we'll go for the rest of your career because towards the end you don't see it as much i know a lot of fighters who started off with the the dad in their corner but then for some reason it's a family thing and i'm not looking for a manager okay there you have it so that was i aldea managers out there trying no doubt about they're kind of separate i'm not trying to to will that upon but you feel like this is good now because you're so young and just figuring things out but at some point it will be better for you speak getting more i feel like you know honestly i feel like i could take a little more but it helps it helps talk to go off on your own no i don't think i think i think as time goes on we'll get a little bit not farther away but like kind of to know and be smart about it and i surround myself with a lot of good people and obviously my dad's a part of that and so i think that him and i make a great team together and and it's not just him it's me too but he's he's the big part in it you know and i know that if my dad wasn't like management like had that title from sponsors and stuff now do you are you getting a lot of attention or people on the bandwagon i am but i could always use more you know i'm working on deals but but i'm definitely open to getting some more in writing washer film for this fight really is that a common thing the reason why i do because i obsess over people in i obsess over the fight probably not something a log managers want to hear but if i didn't have my dad as a manager i don't know if i'd have a manager because i feel like my parents have raised me well enough it's honestly something that i will try to forever it's a very common thing in boxing you often see father coaching or cornering his he like made this a long post and i'm sitting in the in the buzz on the way to the venue bawling my eyes up like it's just we it's a very big in close family thing for me and it's oh as manager i could always go back to me like dad i need your help and even even without my dad like my moms are two you know and and she's she's there as well eh inspiration more confidence right that's okay and also when you listen to a lot of these guys so that was your third fight in the u. of caesar one more on the fight contract usually four fights to start off or i signed from the contenders two fights in the renegotiated one back that was my first fight back on my new contract oh look at you so i have another one and then we'll probably associate you like the the current deal i do yeah i'm getting a discount her training and nutrition and all of that that's really what all my my my show my win everything goes towards his i'm just investing back in myself trainings it would help with training honestly i feel like i'm underpaid in the sense of i would like to be able to afford to pay for for better coaching and better truly want to be the best in the world and if and i need that takes money you know that takes sponsors that takes money that takes effort and that's why i feel like getting paid title game with you i feel mine actually stole this from our NBA team as well where this this summer they spoke to a lot of the rookies who are born around the same time as you and they showed them iconic things from the nineties boy they wanted to know if they knew what these things were okay so like i said i was in tenth grade in one thousand nine hundred what i was sixteen years old when you were saying things in the nineties late nineties yeah i know but still you're right it's still counts corporate rate we're going to have to make a decision together and i don't really have any like fears of fighting any of them so but yeah deserves a chance and i feel like i deserve a chance i deserve a i deserve a lot of credit for the fights that i've had in the i also feel like i'll fight any of them i'm not i don't need necessarily pick out just one final picking up multiple people because i know at the end of the day like we're going to all have fun there's something about it it's like the person is just so beat up that they can't even fall to the ground so kudos thank you anyway i'm i wanna i wanna play a wow okay well done you know a lot of the rookies didn't know this do you know what the thing that the tape is going into is called UCR wow preview people get very upset when when the younger fighters talk about valentino molly mccann got all kinds of hate for this saying that she could she take that fight against like how dare you talk about it and more would just truly helped me out more by the way if the patriot doesn't materialize for whatever reason what do you think of you versus antonina shevchenko kind of like i haven't seen anyone kind of target fighting her like a kind of a hey this is coming and this is yeah i would like that do you know terms of in tunisia and took antonina sem tanko yes there's a lot of people are like oh well you don't get smashed or you get you know like union belong in the cage with her and i disagree i feel like everybody i see do you know do you know the company that you're you're with your three fight you have seen knockout streak is tied with amanda nunez and chris cyborg for the longest by female fighter and i believe is not a thing anymore no i think i think you could cut up a tape measure and get one that's true when i was in elementary they told me that if you in one thousand nine hundred ninth grade i was like i was a man by that point you were getting born and now here you are knocking people standing the standing TKO that's always have this okay so they're going to show you photos from the nineties these are the photos right here do you know what that is they're not let's break the record let's be all by ourselves now birthday year is one thousand nine hundred eighty eight which is just absurd to me nine thousand nine hundred i was in the one and then if you get this one and you could be like all right this is your preview and that's that's very smart and i agree with you well because the sister to get to the other sister you know what i mean what do you think of that idea that was a conversation between ben and i and he was actually the kind of like okay i'll admit i stole that from ben he told me later i had it in my head oh i actually met him before i met him no nope SD cards would be a very thousand nineteen oh yeah sure i really said this exact same thing to me if we can't get paid she should go after the sister yeah that's what he's told me he's like she go after one of the hey that's still house wow how'd you so you can you name all the people jesse chat show family matters classic yes actually four hundred older than than steve urkel i think you would like almost there was like a little egg and then you would feed it and then it would become a thing kids used to play with this yeah breath no doesn't ring a bell now edmonton oilers LA kings saint louis blues rangers wayne gretzky on though i know her real name is lisa and becky becky that's right there it is uncle jesse john stamos in the middle now do you know what that is the idea what is it it's a floppy disk i've heard of that good used to put things on at least got the thing about the computer the computer reboot that is no the greatest new NHL the great one i did it too hard you can cut your veins on your wrist in that you shouldn't do because i think it and yes if i'm being honest but anyway do you know who that man is iconic nineties at the projector man this we totally screwed up on this one i used to the users melamed yeah yeah i'm smart about hey honey was about this video game no i don't know what that is i believe this is the tom gottschee i've heard that name too but i've never had one you are smart much smarter than the NBA rookies that's for sure what that will mean a walkman a corporate jake it says walkman on it as little later and a game cube okay i mean it's right there sega genesis good job who's to blame for this eh i'm impressed okay do you know what that is aren't they yeah wristbands snap on risk of those okay are those in trouble with the law i saw that actually cadidates yeah crazy not what happened but getting kids in school i don't remember her name had one of those that is that is no i i recognize him from some somewhere okay remember him why is there a pack of cigarettes next to it you asking me go i'm asking the guys if you have any idea what's going on i have no idea what incredible wings okay so we're for or what else do we got the media day and they didn't know what any of these things were and there are your age oh i guess you're an old soul i've been told that before you have turning on the for that but i think you crushed it i wanted to ask about the layoff in how soon you want to come back so since you had a layoff how soon do you want to come back leave no one i think those two were the first to to start also there you'll see careers with three finishes in this great stuff that you're doing here let's keep it going yes it's me i mean we're doing a guess what and you're putting the thing we go back to the walkman for a second is a possible to go back to that photo yes we can either january or february but i would be less than two months you're okay with that possibly yes it just it just depends on who and the this year right that would mean we may be talking about december actually really yeah that's who'd wow potentially and if not december you're not gonna take an extended period you don't wanna take i'm only planning on going back to the jim hopefully tomorrow so i'd like to i went and worked out yesterday so that was nice ochre because you know that forced me to work on mattel metabolism and really helped me mentally a lot so what do you mean by mentally i was fighting in LFA and yeah well it was nice ethics the garden his hand that is a man's man right there you did i had the death toll yes cd cd this man still walkman i wanna give you like a half point you've probably never use one of those before like dad i'm sure i mean this we'll see i've talked to everybody i haven't even gotten home to sit down on the couch for like five minutes to break maybe like a day that's it just mentally in terms of like having to be forced into not training with surgery and it kinda gives you the perspective of is there a part of you that wants to make time because you only got i don't feel like i lost time necessarily just because like if i look at other fighters or like they okay i think i've seen a show or two but i don't remember the microphone movie with what about fuller house you ever watch that i think i've seen one or two episodes but it's not the same is are you implying that we need to smoke do you would you have known that a pack of cigarettes kim cigarettes maybe i just came together as a package because when you went out to walk the dog with the pacman eight all i was doing was getting ready to go in for an x ray and i felt nothing like wanting to go into the gym so to be able to wake up and feel like i could go and gave me a lot of credit in about the fighting or the trash talking because you know i think a little bit of both i mean he gave me a lot of things that i watched it twice good tale actually did a bad guy breakdown yeah or whatever he calls it but on your fight he did yeah such good things about me and about my fighting style is like it's an honor and chills the teammate of pages so that must have i'm like that not that kind i i had one of the CD just to see the set man i got to say i don't know if we were counting where we counting back there danny danny tanner okay and then she was actually just in the news i think she might be honor to have you talk about me he just gave me a lot of good compliments you know he was saying something about my striking being able to not just a one punch harder or this i feel like you've got pretty much every single one except for a frie- yeah did you ever see this clip of the rookies then be rookies they asked NBA rookies recognizes that name is what about corporate jacobs says it on the thing what's wrong dies nintendo sixty four okay a little later cow is is great and yet it is it really is a gift and it's something that i think a lot of us fighters we go through when we fight and then we're like man i just can't wait it is a prediction december fourteen page is predicting in las vegas that'd be my goal my prediction but let's dream break and i can't wait to just not do anything but then you also think about what about all the people that don't get to do something you know so i kind of feel like we get a little selfish time so was there hard it was like you know my my striking my knees kicks my elbows and it all played together so to hear him talk about that was really neat and to hear him give me that kind of credit that's not a good fight for her but the same time a piece of teammate of hers he should support her you know i wouldn't want to give false hope well done let's leave it at that okay congratulations thank you very much well done you're killing it really are in it's it's amazing to see what you're doing it breath the UFC of page ran i knew arm yeah i'm just helping out here with the line i mean with wasserman you kind of had to get your i hope you don't do that i don't you know i don't smoke myself but have you ever used the water look up to a lot of like the higher the higher level fighters from from jail and DC and just two and ben like all of these guys to hear them say such i'd like to see her go you know not necessarily career end but she said stuff about wanting to go to bella tour and i'll be good party and gift for her no when people fight everyone goes online talks macy look so good this guy looks good was there one person that wrote about you or maybe even reach out to you're like wow this person gimmie props that felt really good and there she is on our screen thank you so much for coming in i appreciate it and as you can see right over there she is called the future aveeno as a pro three and owned the chris kelly take that much time often man i've kind of forced to take that much time off and i was i was regarding the whole time but i feel like it all worked out for the good well according to our notes chase hooper is currently the youngest but he hasn't fought is okay so we're going to go with i'm still the youngest s. so that should count account for something or fair enough thank you so much for doing this i really appreciate it thank you very much your father as well hope you guys enjoyed being at ESPN did you did you get any shots didn't i should've i should've said it when i when i talked to him but i think he knows what that and he knows that twenty one years old you're the second youngest on the roster did you know that there's they told me what i went there in boston and they were like you're back to being the youngest and then i heard that i was the second youngest i see it says second youngest in the in the AFC but i'm gonna go with her i say youngest until chase hooper actually fights and that's you have i was you know where i was i had said what i said about the the youngest champion golden so i called him up and i'm like that was the only thing you got wrong aside from that i'm like ah i see people say oh you can't be the now the president araya favors the california kid and the guys forty years old he's like just stick with looking getting i'm just kidding kidding just stick with take training for granted like the next morning after this last fight i woke up and i was like all i want to go to the gym because this time last correct number six i right now i'm gonna put number one on the under twenty five why not don't tell AJ mckee that i said that i will but i think that you should at least move up out i apologize walk and it says walkman i apologize again yes all right otherwise it was fun would be otherwise you can get a little more time to prepare give her like january february needs that much time but gosh you boogie woman coming up you want to read although i think that she did a lot better than most of us thought we tallied she answered six correctly six out of six of the eleven it had been told that thing that you can make it a little tighter see that right over there well well done we've got nothing for you know prizes or party at some of the notables from friday night in boston by the way i love i love the friday card i'd like to see more of these cards in the future especially during football season really i thought she did better that's little over fifty percent maybe i'll take back what i just said all right i won't but well done well done who a number five was but it's a good point about trauma he has been inactive and so you've been doing your thing and it's been really impressive in stained cleaning out of being failed forty-five on december fourteenth of card by the way that she may compete on that's the las vegas car with the three title shots thank you very much father as well great guy bucky barbara who helped set the i see that a lot of you like the fact that there was no competition with the saturday night college football game you've got your friday you come home from work you watch the fights why not why don't we get a few we actually asked you for number because i wanted to call him up because he was like you got one thing wrong because he did that video and he was like i think it was by accident that up it was a lot of fun having them in studio and no thanks to corporate jake and jordan for i mean say genesis and it says sega i mean we have a lease blurred change your nickname well all right barbara thank you very much you could just walk no one's going to actually we're very no frills here so no one's actually just like that slide away there she goes and keep doing your thing this isn't credible facility thank you thank you i built it actually just bought the bill there appreciate it app via the vivid seats rewards loyalty program vivid seats helps fans find their seats to any of their favorite live events including for any event ticket vivid seats is an online event ticket marketplace dedicated to providing fans of live entertainment with experiences that last it would new music and our back i mean really anyway these guys are great i loved these guys over at vivid seats they helped us out with the hawaii roadshow back in in car on friday okay so that's the lineup let me tell you right now but our good friends over at vivid seats you know i love these guys our back to the old music we had one week with the a lifetime with vivid seats listeners can watch their favorite teams and 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huge fan of hers she just launched this ron wynn has some decisions to make he missed weight i know that's a tough one when you're protege daniel cormier you gotta make weight so we'll see what happens with him but all in all a friday night for a pay per view but for a fight switch it up a little bit right i think so anyway there you see some of the results those on macy darren stewart beat the ron wind snide and jerry jones and all that stuff it's great listen subscribe now to ESPN daily wherever you get your podcast all right support them because they support us now seats would love to have you on board if you're down if you want to be on board love to have you there great a lot of good things going on in the world of sports these thank you very much to barbara and her father for coming in studio last week when we throughout the lineup for the show i had all the names it was a nice little lineup channels are astros if you want to go to NFL NHL has begun NBA starting this week there's 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talk about the dallas cowboys and they're winless nowhere i mean it's just amazing how you're able to fly by the seat of your pants and be so be so creative with your attack this particular one is this morning it comes out monday through friday AM and she takes a look at all the most interesting stories at ESPN just twenty minutes it's sort of like the new york times as mr nico nico how're you well it's good to have you on the show and i just want to say i apologize for leaving you out of last week's lineup you deserve to be it was a mistake on my part so i'm sorry it doesn't bother me at all all right well better late than never it's great to have you on the show actually i get yelled at by coaches and training for doing that because it's such a low percentage moves and but i got i got a good finish out i actually saw perry at the hotel and i walked up to i was trying to be genuine but i guess the lay it came off it was not genuine and apathy program and it's called vivid seats rewards with rewards status ranging from MVP to hall of famer customers can earn from ten percent up to sixteen percent towards him at all because i don't think he he processes stuff nicely he's on defense all the time but i was i'd said i time guess her okay so you guys have been circling each other i guess it's a bit of a florida thing right you live in florida he lives in florida but there's no actual oh but i was just saying that to come back you know i have no hard feelings for him i mean me and fight that's all i want one he was like oh yeah i didn't get down my last fight house i is i mean either i said you're gonna get knocked down your next one five for ten percent off your next order that's ESPN twenty-five for ten percent off your next order i wonder why it's twenty five also by the way i want to give let's check so my kids can go to a good school and i give them a great home but after your win on on last saturday you saw him flicking you off space wide open and no way and i brought it back and i just dropped my heel right on is that something you worked on doc give my paycheck to you know like 'cause i wanted to fight the best and he was the best at the time so i was trying to get a fight with them everybody you know i want to fight him you know it would be a great fight whenever they want i'm ready so they wanted to make him places so i looked at him and said you said he could he be did it did it is that what you were saying right after i saw you shouting one right after the fight is that who you were talking to which part like right when i got up yeah i put my hands like this and the coach is like we did it we did it i told you it could be done i did it we did it but after percentage though it works for me what did you say to them afterwards since they're the ones telling you not to do it or that it's low percentage and you just one of the best knockouts ever via that move tweeted this a couple of days ago he tweeted robbie don't wanna fight me they don't wanna give me nico because they think the money is too easy for me as much as they're going to pay me the todd is inflict me off inside just signed contract okay so let me ask you about that how did you even know that he was there great fights under my belt i don't watch fights i want people everyone thinks great so i can show you how great was that the first time that you've ever met my perry they wanted to make him versus robbie lawler in december but robbie can't fight and a not because he doesn't wanna play he just he has an issue that he has to deal with but perry we can all go have a beer after so then the until after the fight i'm gonna try to knock you out in which which built was this was this have you actually watched this of watch a lot as it is replayed in my head like that you know i had a lot of drop them three times i think you know drop me twice but when i physically yes what do you mean visit we've seen it like we actually touched fans that want them shut his hand whatever it happens it'll be a great day feel great dane someone's coming off the candice yes i can't imagine why they wouldn't let's let's see if it actually happens but i didn't care about anyone else i want myself on the best you know to prove to myself i am the best you know so it's no hard feelings anybody in your career but in that particular case it didn't go your way what went wrong in that fight why didn't go your way in your opinion i have changed i looked over at him we thought is i saw like the double figures wall then then i so if you invest in me you're investing back into the athlete you're not investing into fancy cars and diamond rings and all these these crazy things i ah they want the competition to match up what do you make of that is that true the UFC does want to make this fight i do okay but you talked before oh yeah we've almost thought before the UFC i challenged him for my belt you must tell him don't mean i walked in i think it was last year the beginning of the year the orlando fight thank heaven how you doing it and i was like are you gonna be able to get in a fight in before the end of the year like your nose is good and he replied some smart little comment i'm in this to make money to support my family man praise god of mike i just want to yell his name is i can just break home you're back on track here the jeff neal fight again it's like one of those fights where it's almost like you're styles killer be killed it's always very fun you've only gone the distance wants got it nothing to be said you know dad thought i went to sleep but i didn't go to sleep awake i was moving those punches they're barely hitting me in the hotel in iran there and i said hey man right and fight off by anybody perria anybody want you know he's always been on to fight you want my belt you know he was telling me that the promoter wasn't paying enough money he didn't wanna take the fight and i would over there how's that he it's go time let's go i said just signed a contract i'm talking about him in him i said when i need to say ophthalmologist was like i was stabbed behind my normal self i can't make miss excuses at all he brought it that night i brought it that night and he if there between you two you just feel like this is a good fight now i don't get i don't have anybody you know that's all it is i'm just initially the last three of them but like what dan stopped it i was like no dad you stopped it don't do this is right get on and i came to orlando ransall sean shoghi in the big hallway i i i f- in hate you but i meant like plenty of and i was like a great battle you went out i was like no i didn't go out down get out jumped up and i looked at and he's never left since then it's been my life ever since you were trying to become a cop you're on your path to becoming a cop then is that why they call you the hybrid it started out because like when i first started within the i did be my favorite one what's what's your favorite right now at this point in your career can't even tell you are blessed orthodox getting finished his out of nowhere looking for things in unexpectedly like was that always your style or something developed over time because without him i would be do stuff i wouldn't have these opportunities and i don't have a favorite i love them all at all you know because that's it's it's my style you know hammerfest people from the bottom all the time trading up to people how many of like you said i got ten you know that's a lot in my look atoms as thank god for me you're not safe i'm gonna get you you know i have really long arms really long legs and just awkward feel really you play football in rodman usually it's one or the other i started football for twelve years after high school we found a rugby club i became an allstate guy in that and then after that found okay last breath ron biting you doesn't matter how did you first get introduced anime on top okay it'd be surprised if i finish more people throughout my career like this i'm just gonna honestly i'm going to be like a nate diaz about it it's not surprise lebron like i've always attacked in positions that people think are neutral or you're safe thin man if i could reach you did you drop that quickly when you saw people doing him a may not boxing right they were doing MMA yeah okay we had the rows loves on wow i know i'm unorthodox but the more learning throughout fighting i'm seeing so many more opportunities to hit people so like i would right wow wow so you know martial arts background no fighting background now i can't right off the football rugby i don't object i attempted to put it out there and i won't actually hit my training partners whether that's messed up the randy brown one also i started straightly ground stand up everything and i was good at all of it so they're like oh you're like a hybrid oh that's her boom boom and you had no idea about what MA was never saw it on tv right that yeah and i went in there approached face and he didn't get up and also i this is awesome and i stopped one of the top instantly so i learned self defense in the elena jim i saw some dudes in the boxing ring beat each other up and i asked the guy was like can i do that i would never do that dan why are you showing me this and then like that night i found the martial arts dude we got a house got everything situated to where i was making good money doing landscaping of i'd make extra money fighting all like that you know the hybrid wolf you came right the symbol dollar you know you have to kill me until my last so what did you do now now this became your job what did you do to support yourself landscaping okay for eight years the first eight years needs in wichita okay the ref said yes yeah wow that's us this body you know that right allegheny i'm here yeah what is your dad thing about your cur now is he is he supportive of it hundred percent they each is don't be game plans and stuff yeah so when you first were introduced to it how long before you actually had your first fight three months three months wow showed me the old pride fight and he was like look these dudes they're beating the crap out of each other it was they and you said you were going to work in jail as a corrections officer yeah that was what i was gonna do oh my no bring you into martial arts learn how to fight because you're working the jails night won't be like a you know get beat up in there career i did a landscape in everyday full times it's all my life once we got married she didn't have to work anymore so we got settled so much that's why i'm about to iffy about are a little iffy about fighting in december because baby i'm not missing my baby's birth a big surprise five so like just like this wait now it's back again so we'll play i don't think a here niko but i hear this weird banjo music in my ear nico do you hear that and she just took care of the kids you know we started having a bunch of kids started allies how many kids do you know i lost him i don't know what just happened but now the banjo music is back not that i know i'm trying to find a way to do it around the new rules because if you hold their feet up and it's only they're standing right there on the his hands so i asked the kick them in the face if i had little wheelbarrow position and i got yes i'll be working on ah so do i i thought it was someone in the back being very festive because you're about to have your child i mean it's a miracle right so i went into the martial arts than jay hit that athena might try to do that stuff and it this will be your fifth or six this is going to be over five wow seven six four and a half of it's my gosh total chaos there he is he's back nico did you hear that that was that's never happened before i don't know what just happened that was awesome i want that song your house right yeah that's why my fights house chaos i respect it does the seven year old understand what you do all and i did bring him to this point because my wife was like yeah you got your hands full well it's great to have you on the show my man the end someone else mega granted they go boom and i was like oh woo woo it up so just because we knew we had two girls we had a boy and they were like whatever's coming next here and then com okay someone's playing a prank on us because i don't hear him anymore but i hear the music it's happening there areas nico the hybrid price what a great character what a great win last saturday in tampa over one james vick all right now on the upcoming delivery thank you so much for having me on their god bless everyone praised god in be good yes sir ever try it okay to tough judges laid sent class like not going to be nine video surfaced last week online of baltimore boy getting bullied in the school bathroom dennis was one of the many who were disgusted by that video reached out on social media to offer the kid free oh yeah yeah i wanted him in the ribs with from the overall somebody for sure now now what's the breakdown in terms of sex how many boys how many girls to and to to to came what's the new one do you know musil areas so if you ever see me a foot stop anybody that's goes to my dad right there okay just no soccer kicks in the US no we're doing a surprise oil like it is the first time you're doing surprise you you've done surprise every single time no surprise just the last one okay why art style where's that music from do you hear that out three rounds what is this okay i don't know what that was i mean this is a great fighter why not read twenty fifteen sixty wow okay all right well then boy came and this will just shavei nowhere wow this was a bit of a surprise if you will yeah shitsu lessons which i think is amazing even range for an uber to pick them up and take him to the gym all very cool yesterday dana's posted this picture of the young man before his first marshall arts lesson and road we're all in this together let's go champ good on both guys i hate bullies picked on i feel like you know that needs to change so stoic different than what i do and micro so tell me how this happened you saw this video online and then how did you get sportscenter late last week here's what they had to say about our fighter dylan danas has a reputation for trouble outside of the cage but earlier this week he did something everyone can support areas dylan dana's i thought he was going to be there dylan well done my man aren't there is serious i thought i have five kids five hundred or one of the i i saw i was going to ask if you have your first because i saw photo of your wife she you did all on his own wow that is amazing and and so you obviously weren't there 'cause you don't live in baltimore but what is your what is your friends say about him understand what i do okay are they fans they are trained to really oh yeah they beat the daily do do you bring them to your fight let's move on to our next guest looking forward to talking to this man he's a hard guy to to get in contact with these days he's very busy doing a lot of great things he's a mench in fact he was featured on he was like that'd be so awesome and then offered him over to the gym and back home and he said okay was do it so irate essentially with one of my friends that has jim in baltimore fourteen did you talk to their parents his parents only use went straight to the kid and he did it on his own attack the kid is so i got the video and send it to me but then i posted it and then a lot of people were attacking the kid in my video over and over again so i wanna make sure it was really this is i mean you probably have since you've been involved in this where people are posting these videos of kids getting beaten up at school it's a disgusting thing have you seen like i feel like this i know that guy i thought you were supposed to be an evil person so bad guy but when a kid is getting bullied or someone that can't defend themselves is getting part of martial arts so i feel like he had a lot of good about people around him and stuff like that so i'm really hoping he goes back and sticks with it i feel like there's a trend lately i don't know if you've and you're you're doing great things a lot of fun to watch you compete and i personally would love to see that fight against my parents i think perry wanted as well i don't know what the problem is let's make an that was ugly the i will burrow head jake who said yes though if i take this budget fight fair enough sometimes it's all about that just that and only that nico all the best to you and good luck to you and your wife been right twenty twenty baby i'm ready there's a there's a backstory as you said a backstory dating back to the the regional days so and you for that but i feel like there's also something to be said for trying to inspire people to do good as well so donations and things like that i think yes i mean i understood the criticism about putting it out there but i feel like me putting it out there's gonna be a lot better in the long run than knocking out there yeah i saw people criticize times more often than not should be anonymous but we also like if it's becoming a thing where it's becoming cool to post these videos we need to make it a thing to be cooled let me more mature for my age at the time and you know like the guys at the gym always you know helped me motivate me and i'll tell stories and and yeah i was like there's just me and my my own rpt in our back well that's amazing five children wow i can't even imagine what's what's the age range like a thing lately where people are doing this kids ganging up on one kid this was just one but it's like they're i've seen this at least five times over the past month and i don't understand why it's a thing i feel like it's been around for a for probably since you know beginning of time in schools nowadays on social media good worried for awhile for awhile so they i said i have nothing against you stuff for good is where it needs to be you know i got a lot of criticism for posting and doing this in in our good gestures to behind closed doors and you know i believe in that meantime so been in contact with but trying to get him to go back and stay steady with martial arts but yeah basically just happened like that how old is he fourteen through stuffing yeah now how does it work when you see all these other videos right like right now you wanna come out now and you know i think he's again the right people feel like a lot of people promoted to promote themselves and then moat other things you know i think using like are behind him and if you do all these gestures behind closed doors their ideas behind closed doors all victims from bullying and all the people that are all the good people in the gym that help you and motivate you and you know it's actually i don't know when i was younger i felt like older people was actually better for me than the kids in my school you just don't know that who's lying who's not lying so it's very hard i'm not gonna lie so i don't know i think i'm trying to figure out because i never dealt with this before right and you're getting all kinds of help people out as well and so i give a lot of credit for that do you know why he was getting bullied you know why he was getting beat up like that he's a little bit one the one word answers no i did not not yet i want to bring them to loyd it's just saw airplane tickets and stuff two but this kid got got humiliated online in front of millions of people so why not have his back in front of millions of people and make them feel like you know we ever because nowadays everybody's just kinda like you don't know who to trust and then what's what so the kid it ended up being him meet him for talking he was a little bit hesitant attention for i've heard that people like stage these things to get notoriety so but i've seen you post them and i think it's great henry gracie i saw posting about it you're and i got him over there you end up training you know i don't know i think he really wanted to do boxing mary did you might have been different for him but apparently he really liked the class gone through something income from different kind of life than i come from you know so he just a little bit hesitant with you know reaching out in talking too much i understand that you know i don't i don't hold on incontinent messages videos of god i mean you imagine and things to you don't know who's who's being honest who wants to get famous who wants to do this it scared in the beginning which i understand obviously nice play going through so much now i'm like it's going viral and stuff like that and i reached out to him and say hey man to go to the gym oy in i thought someone like him would understand that it was actually pretty embarrassing to see him talk of a martial arts like that and he's criticizing you for this selena and stuff like that so i don't know i rubbed me the wrong way especially coming from someone like him hoops martial-arts meteoroid champion and done so much great in his life it was bullying and gain trump by six seven guys you know in the bathroom but you know i was definitely bullied as a kid i feel like sometimes mentally on isaiah sometimes mental as well i think it's great that the jujitsu guys are doing this in particular because wanting to is like i don't know if you listen to michael business podcast but he kept like making fun of said he was a little shy going to the gym i mean just anybody go into a new martial arts my i was shy going into my my first job when i was fifteen fourteen so you know against them you know so i feel like you know the more it helping the more i taught him you know i've been talking on a daily basis reaching out to him and just trying to talk more and breaking him out of his shell the martial arts isn't all about defending yourself about building confidence discipline you know it has it has so much more than just using it industry or in bullied as a kid is that is that why you feel like at this stage in your life you need to get back why does this mean so much to you definitely does but i wouldn't say i was bullied tone of people that have started nonprofit for i never started well before i didn't know how much goes into it so been working with some people and seeing how it goes like her and the numbers and learning all this stuff good on you my man it's great to see you doing this now also wanna ask you about some of the things going on your your actual career first off how's the knee a couple of days ago the ultimate aim of martial arts not having to use them i thought that that was a very good one your party also tweeted that you were thinking of starting nonprofit organizations for kids who are bullied to help them learn martial arts for free is this is a serious thing that you're thinking of doing i've been i've been talking to him ling is worse than physical bully so yeah i definitely would i definitely gone through some stuff you know i think we all have i'm not special in any sense if everybody's gone through people martial-arts confidence that when you see them like okay that carries himself differently and no one will mess with you after that so yeah definitely been through a lot of stuff i have to send myself so i didn't have the feel scared anymore i'd have to feel like i didn't want to school so once i learned how to defend myself that confidence that that grew in me and and people that tree reveal a bullying are not going to see that there's not going to see that martial arts can change your life or not know that there is someone to reach out to or there's ways of getting out of it so would but every sells more comfortable with so yeah i don't know i mean i feel like allow people just give up on people say he doesn't deserve this or he's great for he doesn't care you know but i kind of try to find the good in people in and i'll work it out with him in a certain sense i just i know how it is to be that agent and take your exchange all one word answers i know some people are like oh he's not grateful tonight he doesn't wanna be held but you know i see someone that you know is people will see you know there's there's nothing that i haven't i haven't said that has came true so i'm gonna come back ADC combat the grappling and prove we've now as far as the makers concern will you fight this year or do you think you're done for this year i definitely want to fight this year i was trying to get onto japan yeah i knew he was gonna be a little bit shy but i was very surprised if the mcgeoch jumped right into the class in the one thing about march lawrence that i really liked this as a kid in the things eat healthy physical therapy and stuff so i think i'm starting to get into that point my career working on my body and and my longevity in card i want to do the rise in japan i thought that'd be cool i'm so we're still working on the fight with j. paul the boxing so i want that to happen really bad and damage maybe we'll do that before them there okay so those a lot there where do things stand with the japan fight coker told me that he sent the name paul thing you're you're very into this jake paul idea fighting finding this guy this youtube a like a youtube influencers something like that why do you want to fight him so badly no it's funny in the beginning he called me everything's i called him outlet i wanna call it youtube beginning he called me out like he wanted to fight me this and that and then i kind of just like whatever are you saying that the kidney ju jitsu view to help them and a fight in three fight and all this stuff and michael business world champion a martial artist his whole life and you know he should understand unborn end up falling to the ground and my backlog locked up it was really bad for a walk in stuck in bed and it was it was terrible wow and how does it feel now marci's in just about findings about this plan confidence spags NFL didn't you build you into someone that nothing else can you tweeted for like what goes into it and so i i might have thought it was a little bit easier than what it would it comes out to be what we're working on it now and is this like a personal thing field i don't know how to explain that was something that you wanted to do ADC how tough was it to pull out on top of things my whole life man oh you know making fun of them and stuff like that or bullying them and they did have it may not be the reason i started training was because budget older kids picking on me and i wonder wars and i call them out on everything i've been saying everything about him so either as a happy in the in the ring or is going to happen industry at his house so okay i mean i would imagine that's more than what you make in baltimore that's close but it's fun competitions plenty guys are martial arts yeah he was on he was like oh boy she's gonna do like a guy jumping break his arm in arm bars and get knocked out like saying stupid stuff this kid need couldn't doesn't need march especially when you get to watch people that wanted that shouldn't have one in if i was there so that's one of the toughest sanctions especially after you guys know who i mean so their whole lives and not finding some no pushy youtuber that thinks he can fight but what did they make more sense to have a grappling match doesn't have a history in in wrestling or is when they made eight million so they split four between each other and he was like no obviously like this fight will be a lot bigger i was doing i'm wow it's a fill up there now i was doing the right things go into a physical therapist stretching and trying to work on just on i think it's just like some long training that my body just like you could do it wait so who's offering you four to five million the dr morrow talking oh i don't honestly i don't like to give people that don't deserve credit but in i'm i still feel like i'm the best graph in the world MMA and as you get to so due to some my body's just trying to learn how to be a professional athlete instead just training and training and training and not taking care of your body you know professional athletes do all the my show he actually seemed quite quite interested in like the first time us actually warming up to the idea of of competing against you do you think this could happen something didn't you wrestle as a kid i mean that would be a match it would just be me for again abusing him but the boxing match he thinks i don't have the sundance site it up and i said okay i don't care i'm down so they were working on a press conferences and and building up a big event around it and i think that'd be awesome forget about your whatever issue may have with with with aspirin just to amazing grapplers ground fighters a lot of fun you think my actually some he's never been tell me on the phone person should at the gym they said that ben aspirin called flow grappling like personally on the phone and said i wanna grappled leeann i'm down to do it and now they're offering me four or five million for boxing fight against simplicity that can't even defend himself so i'm down to do i mean if you talk a big game and say you can fight me and you you know you'll beat me the sport so is that why you pulled out of the ADC yeah it was it was bad man i come and stand up i have explained what happened there was just like fighting wise so have you comes out basement he's nice about it i'll probably do sure sure and what about kevin lee is dead i was kind of into that one are you you know so i if damian submits them on saturday does that take the appeal away from you like do you want to be the first guy to submit them so you know i mean innings wife involved east already that with me i usually don't go for wise but he came in my girlfriend so you come to my girlfriend i'm going right for your wife who he can bill so even before he came on your show they slow grappling came to my gym texts me we talk in person housing talking personally stocking stuff you know i mean i posted out there you sure sure sure but this this event is happening next it was just started talking head you so so fun have you always been this kind of fighter like just very on so or in a couple of weeks right it's not going to happen for transfer i just throw me in there be half drunk and snow fight him or not i don't need to be trained for that but if he doesn't like i'm gonna fight youtube or and then another the money came into our in the naza maybe i'll just shut this motherfucker up so yeah i'm thinking about you put it on my on my twitter he said like the only way he'll do it if it's like a combat jitsu and he knows that you'll see when let him do that is technically MMA so before you think he subs them oh i am a betting man but i had output i would put i say damian tops for sure that's getting better it's they're trying to allow for ABC i hurt my back really bad i couldn't walk and you know i think it's just been training retraining for so long i was almost eleven years tape was happy him over and over again him marcello like he's he's very overrated so damian way better competition as a way better black belt over there talking about they have somebody to match me to fight me and stuff like that so i guess it's you know it's not just belco you know rising has to go with it and they have in some okay now this g we'll see i definitely want to fight for the year's over i might get that so mean benizri grappling match after he said after he fights steaming maya so i'm not sure it was he doesn't take any but the only thing that kinda sucks is that he's gonna get a he's gonna get submitted by damian maya but we'll see what happens i was just going to ask you is fighting this saturday against my insurance if you're interested in tuck he's not going to beat them on the who's going to take him down hold him he's not gonna hold david david is going to happen there's a video back in the day of jason and and the national training i mean everybody thinks i don't how striking and this and that so i guess let's see i mean i think it'd be fun i mean me and him have it comes out on lake begs me and stuff like that but i don't know i like nowadays is so hard to find someone that's like on the level of the in popularity wise in he said he hoped the packages allow you not us just saying stuff like that i mean i have pictures with his wife and stuff like that so you know meaner had a good night out searching people legally but i was always down for it and then he was like man you know like it'd be real pipe lock me or something like that and so i need to be able to hit him so he does like went back on what he was saying but then we can do we can start to have a big enough name where we could just make our own main event boxing thing we don't need anybody else on him so the last time ben astros damion taps and what do you think he gets earlier takes a little time i say second round submission wow that's pretty earlier about do damage waiver shirking him so he's he's now what's this picture that you posted you nicky as what's that all about someone tabula and they were saying like nick bell towers that other you know that'd be awesome alga down to do everything i've ever said any everybody's ever turned down or our ran away from it so i'm down to care you can show but my gym we'll do it tomorrow doesn't matter on twitter as well one of the legends of the game losing streak so sorry about that when i urged them in that grappling match offer me i was supposed to fight single time where you're supposed to be on a couple of weeks and then he goes to me and i wasn't happy about that you know this right ed i mean i'm the one that at middleweight and lightweight was funding absolutes every single year so i go against everybody i go against everybody yogi in all these guys either one forget you barely okay let me get your take on this before i let you go i asked joe lows on about it charles rosa when he got the sub did you see he has i mean these these tweets that you put you enjoy doing this right riley and they take the bait every time the comments are just people eight on the cage i'm trying to seize this should have been illegal in your opinion that that help him or do you think that did help also like the after ABC couple places reach out like what do you want to i want to go against chechen i want to go against them all so i mean i'm the one that at any weight i appreciate that but it was it was it gordon ryan that you're preferring to before referring to everybody okay i i wanna personal other they do this and that rule sets i'm the one that my whole career never complain about rule sets never complained about g and now finding i'm a man so we'll be combing event doesn't always mean greg hardy he's been combing event to and he does have a lot of fight so from the last night you guys looking at hayler it's like right now you guys talking about win the brings excitement 'em age jitsu i mean come on beyond what other on it's just stupid outta mini there's only one me are you still the highest paid for and built or is that changed since the last time we talked about that no i might pick up knowing that's coming close to me okay i was actually surprised when they said that chris i was the highest paid woman fighter that was pretty cool i'm happy for her that's cool she's part of paradigm to and stuff like that so i was very happy about that but anymore because it's just stupid everybody knows who's the man who brings all the is in all of that so you plan all all you want and i'm on your show but i'm the highest one that's get washed every single if we help us you can't you're not gonna build probably the legs office is easy if he's has his tone in the cage but yeah i probably should have been disqualified for that but i guess stuff happens is a fight so what are you celebrating i see a balloon over there behind you what he's celebrating birthday go all out you know yeah confusing that'd be cool i'm going to build our final okay wow you're i mean just like some of your i mean you do like detroit people right you you will admit that what would be semantic i saw yeah you had all kinds of gifts for her balloons your real soft yeah you're in love i see it in your eyes yeah no one comes close to make them on mike applied ever on the code event massacre guard right nuts the whole place diamant make annoys until i came up pro wrestling debut on october thirty first october thirty first saudi arabia the gypsy king the lineal boxing in fourteen maybe between joe i want i just put on my twitter as i look back then back then in two thousand fourteen do things about you good job helping out that kid and trying to be a positive influence and everything that you're you're you're writing about as far as martial arts and the potential charter opportunity to sit down with triple h and tyson fury yes hunter hearst helmsley aka paul eveque WWE executive tyson fury the guy be like flights on the premiums he's a purple and it's funny how things come around now wow and what year was this this was too the referee n call it so i guess it's legal or yep yep he didn't see it goes on to win he did amazing so you give him props on go top rank ESPN getting together i was at the lohman chango fight it was right around the same time that he signed with top rank and it sort of put the still the one and only doing some great things for the youngsters one of my honorable mention by the way you can check that out each and every week on the that's right and then the comments you're you're all you put me on the show everybody oh my god i'm the highest watch one on the deal with cain velasquez first time ever met triple h i'll give you some thoughts on that on the back end of this interview but first here's my conversation with triple h and tyson fury about tyson fury for doing this guys i really appreciate it if you haven't i'll start with you how did this all come about how did you guys reach out to him and get this deal done i'm a big boxing fan start with a few months ferguson and then they came with joe louis on back then really have a name and i was like i'll go joe trillo sounds like a legend back house they got that house they tony try mantra well well done you're making your mom very proud dylan than you and i don't believe everyone who says all these mean and nasty facebook dot com slash ESPN page where we highlight the good people doing great things in the world of all right i'm excited about this last thursday i had and getting him down to the performance orlando where we train it's easy to see how this athletically for him is just such an easy fit we'll see i've been thinking about it for a little while and then this opportunity came up we reached out he said this actually works out perfect for me the timing is great and here we are you know did you have any reservations in my head back again i've been a fan of his longtime and seen him and thought incredible entertainer he's custom made for what we do in some way when this opportunity came up in the opportunities there and he wants to be part of it we love to have hired of this happening have you ever trained in pro wrestling before never pro wrestling training before ever put a three as you may know going to make his way over to pro wrestling later this month along with cain velasquez velazquez competing against brock lessner rematch of their fight do you have c. one twenty-one tyson fury is going up against braun strowman so i had the opportunity or in new york had the opportunity to sit down and talk them about how this deal with tyson came about heavyweight champion of the world will be making his debut going up against braun strowman how cool is this we're talking to the gypsy kings tyson fury himself and triple h WBZ executive thank you very much how's the calling the shots theorizing me who i wanna fight and i said tony ferguson he's as guys on the premiums i'm finding out so it's funny like many years that align i'm still making all the calls we were just sort of actually reaching out to see if they'd be interested in the future and what that opportunity might be the woman janko fi like i said is we're kind of popped into my head just the one match deal or is there a longer deal at play here well i think when you're the type of entertainer he is like i said you know it's easy to see how he fits in what we do coming up a fight the big wilder fight coming up in february maybe this isn't the best time no this is perfect timing for me this is still a wanted to do for a long time so in her when she did this there's only certain of very ultra elite that that happens to and he's one of them this is going to be correct now like you said it's one fight at a time so i think you do this braun strowman and saudi i look forward to support them down the road in in february hopefully with with a wildfire i and we'll see where it goes from there like you said when you have this level of personality this level athleticism he can do anything he wants so already begun training you're at the performance center up in wet can out down it's a surreal experience like coleman into this avignon i didn't know what to expect and all that stuff well done my man thank you for doing this i appreciate it and hopefully the back and knee feel good soon and we'll see you back in there soon enough as for how mirror cruciate all right there is october thirtieth it's going to be something special just match with braun strowman i think people are going to be shocked at what he does because he's not just taking this in going in there i'm going to do one or two things floor or any place else i i trained floyd mayweather a few years ago when he wrestled being showed wrestlemainia opportunity to see elite level athletes and there's a difference lifelong WWE brother route sixty six and weighs about four hundred pounds and we wrestle like all the time from being ten years old the opportunity arise and being in a position where after sort of big caught on i'm not boxing training at the moment this is perfect time infamy everyone's like counter that you've got something can blow up over here and there's just nothing happening there's just this focus in this dr i watched him walk in the performance end of that first day in five minutes after he was in the ring he was brock and the timing is right with that too as well cain somebody that looked into this awhile ago he came to the performance center tried out with us but he still ever growing up i had a goal he was one of my favorites say that anyway i've favorites so in orlando oren the trainings absolutely fantastic we've all new relationships i'm thriving it's like when you go out and not state with this new commit worked out perfect for him and we were like well let's just go with it we can make this happen now we can make it happen quickly and we can move and make this epic blockbuster event like you said with me just get out of there and try not to get hurt and get a pay whatever this is the he's going to try to make something special edits in it shows and it's it's going to be awesome so this event is a big deal for pro wrestling fans big deal for boxing well months why is it happening in two weeks i think the timing of it is is right like a said when we reached out to him this was the timing for him okay i think we were reaching out his own and i thought wow this this is going to be something special because he's he is that next level he is that floyd mayweather he is the rhonda i saw that between somebody that's kind of at the top of them like the very elite level there's a different spark in their eye when you put them in the ring and everything else goes away wrestlemainia kind of fight kane wrestlemainia why is it happening so soon why is it happening in two weeks it seems like it's happening sooner than maybe the in the old days you would build to something this uh hey what if he was like the timing is now and we had an event now and i don't know that we would have done the exact same time but it worked you know things happen for reasons so had the fight game in his head and either i feel you either do this or you don't do this and he was looking to do this long term but he hadn't put that away yet now he every hour my god this is how is it's a new thing for me so i'm really really enjoying the experience so the other giving you opportunity so it's a different conversation now he stepped away from MA and he's fully dedicated to to what we do so that's a different conversation because he was looking to fully make the trend vision this was the opportunity right place right time right right athlete all of the you know what i mean just just fell in our last few true or false questions is it true franken born didn't know that this was happening until you saw on television is that true true you didn't give them a heads up i didn't surprise was he mad he was he's kind of got to the point where he did a few matches he trained a little bit in a few matches and he got the bug for and now i can see in canes isaac he really wants this being thirty like we would offer time limit there's no no hold bod with each of light for an hour stop wrestling who is offense also big deal for anime fans 'cause cain velasquez is making us w debut and i i heard that you guys were all talking i was like okay this sounds like wrestlemainia tyson fury is berlioz everybody was like concentrate on your job you are not to show when you're not a movie star like try telling me i would never do anything other lives the you've got to take the bull by the homes and get them with and enjoy it because like i say this once in a lifetime opportunities i'm hey one of my childhood heroes like thrill for me to be to go backstage meet hulk hogan and all the rest of the guys rock and everybody it's been now i really know it's one of the hardest things i've ever had to do people say to me oh it's all fake i said well you hear you train for a couple of days and he's how fake is this is an opportunity for us to go there like we've been doing for years and years and years and go there and entertain our fan base and i think that are information's come from but i'm not going to confirm or deny i don't wanna preach my contract it is amazing how much people and other people's money stage in korea i think what's cool for me is to see somebody i've been around athlete to enough my entire career now my job WWE recruiting athletes from around the world whether that's NFL if i'm tough stick thing for me and it was an opportunity that i did not want to slip poke franck along with my management team trainer father yes i'm getting thrown around about ring the ropes ally bob wire i'm caught me boxing bits i feel saw in places that they think could helen especially have seen that when they go there what they do is they go there and they see an event just like the other events they do they see tens of thousands of fans in the stadium politics everything else aside what we have millions of fans in the middle east that love what we do they love the product they love to be entertained by it what happens if you get injured shoulders legs whatever this is the risk what if i go out the front door and got run over by a boston morning if we live their lives on f housing topic this time are you getting any pushback from any of your guys about going back there no i think as as time has gone on the truth is one entertainment company and this is a moment in time and his point i'm not going to confirm or deny but the positioning of what we are different than ah you could make an argument that right now if you said one of the big four sports in america you could make an argument with that we're right there taylor but i think if i had to pick one i would pick floyd floyd i e yeah i just it was a whole 'nother level of wants to fight come around the corner like what will be will be and i'm going to take one time and for now i'm concentrating on berlin stroman nothing else is laser focus on it and wanting to be something special i think he really did go into wrestlemainia and it's arguable in that show that like that basing there's millions of our fans do you have any reservations i'm a price want to entertain a lot like trump lake just said i just you're a historian i've been in this business for a long time could i ask you off top your i know i'm putting you on the spot the greatest sort of athlete cameo lawrence taylor ah i think it's to be challenged here very shortly is february twenty-second a done deal with as far as we know both the certainty we're boxing occasion to it in a short period of time and he just wanted it to be epic like he does the it's funny in my mind the comparison of the two just in their dedication to it in there it kind of stole the thunder in that event like this this spectacle was on them so you could make that argument that greatest performance from a crossover i'm crazy for what they do that's what we do we entertain and that's a we're not we're not in it for politics anything else about going entertaining are it is it true you're making fifteen million for this talk about in in read so i read this swirl that's all over the news that he's not as it seems like in the past the athletes who came over the celebrities didn't make that much look a WWE any other sport we're not the size of the NFL or anything like that but what we do is up there and also i was gonna say one thing that's why you save none of the other books came in heison floyd who did it best in your opinion what what's the level that he's to reach to sort of surpass in your mind putting you on the spot where you who came over and really wowed you more so than the rest he's called all tees and we'll see what the future holds have you erected a statue of that cut man who saved your your fight i mean that was incredible stuff that he it's been a tough time in the sport of boxing on wednesday we found out about patrick day unfortunately passing away the fourth boxer in a little over two months as one of the faces of boxing and you're in that fight against ottawa lean it was amazing to watch him work in between the rounds that was as riveting for me than the action itself at pick your whole hey cup teller very good point i know this is your forte jing you gotta pay for the absolutely absolutely it sounds like a confirmation right here on this your fourth event in saudi arabia correct i know it's been somewhat of a his can't see can't all of that but yet stay dominant the whole fight because at any minute if you're not dominant they might stop this but if you're in a dominant position they're not going to stop it there's quite pissed really he said to me i think this is a really bad idea you could get injured bob stroman massive guy what happens if the court reopens so you know what if it was me terrible terrible times for the for the families prizefighter himself how do you react when you hear news like this first of all condolences to the families who lost ones multiple brains gallons per year to be passed medically fit to to do bottle it's one of these unfortunate circumstances feel okay bob never took any countries to it but i think in another feeble so i'm going to be fine again taking volunteers this is her business this is the fight game on the people around you know boxing has been regulated time and time again we take medicals all the time every single flight we have brains guns i go where i'll have to go like i say going over that to put on a show for the for the funds around the world boxing and wrestling like i never even a contact sport freefall times in the last few months around the world the balkan community has really got together to show support to the families into the friends who've lost their fighters you never say never and WWE so clearly yeah they sincere and came to alaska sorry about to compete and to actually cool thank you so much guys i really appreciate this talk to triple h i really enjoyed that afterwards he actually invited me to the performance sennar said he'd give me a little behind the scenes tour of what they do over there said rematch of a fight that happened almost ten years ago at UFC one twenty-one all right so there you have it those a lot of fun first time i ever had the opportunity champion this time next year and WB on the big stage on the big roster not tried to that's hard to say true or false okay a lot of a lot of variables the cut if you if you aren't so he's got to stay dominant every step of the rest of that flight is a different a different game in a different level of athlete that can pull that out and do that i always say you can't go swimming and not what everyone says all the best thing about not having occultist don't get one in the beginning vote been a professional for eleven years i've only two the and one of my big rivals deontay wilder arguably one of the biggest punches in heavyweight history so i've got to go i go to roka this seriously his deep tastes gonna be louis all tees okay all tees has a tough customer nothing's given in life so one-step-at-a-time one fighter time i've got a problem stroman and he feels like once he gets out of his system much like cain recently got it out of his system some way somehow then they can have some we're made up of multiple boxes you came into it with the lineal heavyweight current world champion i'm also that not right that's right into play too compa is a top guy and he saved my career without without monica forty seven pitches well and it seems to be okay it's only been a month healing oh i don't know two thousand nine i think it was i interviewed him at a yankee stadium prior to many patio verses miguel koto and someone who goes in there and risk your life every time you go in what kind of feelings do you get when you say what kind of reservations had it how do you react it's one thing for the media to react pundits but as an actual doesn't whoever they were related to he's kind of scary you know i go in there and i'm in the heavyweight division with the biggest the biggest scholars the trauma stay i will end on this just a couple of true or false all i need is true or false true or false ronda rousey will compete again matt riddle will be past few months slash year and feels like unlike cain right now d. c. still has fight left in them MMA fighting left in them for them to do this and i asked him about the rise of anime in that you have seen particular and he had a lot of disparaging things to say about the sport one of the first interviews that got me some attention and life so it's not about bumped ballistic he talk about that cut though and as much as it was to fix it thinking about the performance to walk past that oh yeah forty seven that could be you know we're we're vigil say it all the time we're open for business pass his past today's today was actually my first time seeing him since and so i just said hello and wondered if you remember me but he's getting a little up there in age and i don't know if he actually did but he said he did so it was nice to see singh also for you long time fans i ran into bob arum in the back i didn't even know he was going to be there and i haven't seen he was coming out of the the restroom they had to get to but i actually asked him about daniel cormie because you were called a couple of weeks ago i said hey if this whole cave alaska's WW thing doesn't result in and asked him if you remember me and i'm not sure if you really did remember me but i certainly remember him if you if you don't know the story back in it come check out annex t all those places more perhaps most interesting afterwards we spoke a little longer were a little bit stressed for time there was another taping for me coming over and tag teaming with kane this will all be for non asked him about DC and he actually told me that he has talked to dc over the at that time you'll see was coming up and they were actually going head to head with a mayweather fight UFC one of three was going head to head with their fight on pay per view and it was somewhat uncommon all right three and a half hour show relax anyway if you're one of those people you'll like our next guest because he wanted the main event this past for i'm giving you everything everything what's happened in recent times and hopefully we don't see any more of it in in in any more reason times well this happens now and again on it's an obsolete talks but they've definitely tested the waters and brought up the subject but they still feel like DC wants to find and we know DC once if i decided on this show so i thought that that was do you ever wanted and more i'm giving you okay so chill out he won the main event on friday against chris wideman in boston he is in my opinion the number one contender i was i was in my zone early early in the day in a my zone ethica touch me now what what right now at five he could very well be next for johnny bones jones he's dominic reyes kind enough to join us dominic congratulations my man how are you but definitely has the potential to beating a true or false also true being w w again at some time off that interview you probably gonna tell your friends about i don't care i don't care if you don't like it i like it a lot of other people like it and guess what it's interesting stuff all right so get over yourself like why do you think that was were you just like overly prepared did you feel like this was a really great matchup for you sometimes when the stakes get raised you get a little more nervous the crown jewel october thirty first on w network debut of tyson fury going up against braun strowman and also debut of cain velasquez going up against brock less AM it was fun and i appreciate both tyson and triple h four give me the time of day i still think it's weird that it's happening in saudi arabia it's happening so soon but hey it's happening tober thirty first if game on us we know what we're gain info salt of we know the risk element but it's not reality until something like this happens it's happened and like twenty minutes is going to be a little bit off the beaten path but still in the combat sport i'm not talking about like NHL here chill out all right enough i i just i let it all go you know i said whatever god has in clan for me as can be the clan so is go out there and buy like i know i can it could end that quickly but i i wasn't expecting it to end quickly the step back left like you're going backwards and you hit them with like you're very happy go lucky guy you're always smiling were you little more nervous for this one actually i was the most common ever felt ever refined yeah you can't please everyone can't please everyone would you think i main event big time stuff against the former champion what was it like going into the file a you you seem very common left that ended up dropping him and then the hammerfest that's something that you work on very impressive the parry the left everything was just so impressive that led to the dropping of but like i said i'm done with this show i'm not watching ever again could don't watch ever again i don't care and by the way i don't believe you i don't believe you you're still going to watch and you probably gray area how you doing man i'm doing really well so what are you what are you laughing about what's so funny over there my little rant i get so noisy with these people so if you're into that sort of thing enjoy by all these people complaining too much progressing talk well we'll we'll give you a three and a half hour show every week and that's just on mondays of christian and hammerfest but is that something in particular that you worked on a particular thing of organon for chris i mean left still a lot of time a lot of work to be done you've only been in the AFC for a little over two years when when you debuted in june of two thousand seventeen if i would've told you are i two years later that he's more susceptible to getting dropped you feel like this now problem that that he should you know talk afterwards he should get a little more serious about retiring yeah i was i was very prepared i do have an anti everything he was trying to do and had my family met my close friends there to invade or fade to and you thought right into it and i don't money baby do you subscribe to the theory that like his chin has gone away i don't know i wanna say khudai fine how how to win the fight i think what it comes down to of done talks to john you're you're in that orbit your undefeated sound like would you have believed me or is this happening sooner than you expected vite performance put on and all my dreams will come true did you think it would end up quickly i guess you could say i knew it was gonna happen because he lunges in we're looking at film and he learned his in pretty often with that too and at a really good i'm always working on my boxing i knew if i had my hand for sharper than his own finish them and i knew i know they already are naturally but around thirty five thirty six years old i feel when your body starts to like betray you and you're not as athletic as used to be you know you can still see things the way you saw him once but you can't move the same way and i just think it's a matter of age at this point for him so you got like six seven years are you on the button so i mean it's hard to say whether or not but personally i i plan on retiring always very well dominic creates just one of the main event you're on the show what more do you want who else do you want you driving me nuts anyway great forums key by the how'd you feel about this talk i don't know if it's going to not hit him with with a laser shot man i hit him really hard they were saying the same thing with kobe saying that kobe loses dan is going to cut them and put them to build a guy he'll come to bell tour because like he's saying he was ahead him in the head with a belt would i need to do at this point to get that fight but i m my whole career has been really fast rise reason i didn't have and event a up to this point is because i'm moving on to the next level before organizations could lock me down and made of that you know i'm finishing guys early excuse management to make it go away like hey man tell them why can't fight him i'm you tell me why bro but you step up what's up big fight i mean cleared clearly doesn't wanna fight me he's getting his management to make use forum asking his management in your batman it's all along he tweeted afterwards many have talk expletive all have fallen you will do the same so it seems because it's the official championship parade of like the patriots in championship teams in boston so that was my dangerous guy that's getting better every day now what happened was talking about you being calm you talked about you being calm i got this tweet from someone who said that good way to celebrate so you said you said afterwards like all right i don't want any party favors john i just want to say what did you mean by the way buy party favors are your favorites man what do you mean by that has management they've reached out to you guys now they tweeted oh w fight i like care about what a key heard your your message but never really to the best of my knowledge actually addressed you was it was at accurate that i missed something i didn't actually address you or the fight in particular octagon which is bringing the bell don't bring anything else don't bring any of your special special stuff we're special sauce as they would say think dude a hill who's this abraham cala yeah one of those guys yeah this vehicle so it could drive on land and also goes in the water it's really cool world war two vessel i drove around the charles for about thirty minutes i usually people's zigzag because they're the response on the on the steering wheel is delayed the like you move it and then like maybe fifteen seconds later did you just ask the guy could you drive it now he asked me to drive and then surprised that i was as good as i was driving my championship parade actually signed my name on the boat right next to you tom brady which is really cool wow the book it's a f- you you're leading a duck tour before the fight you were driving the boat what is this all about is this is this from this particular by week here we are i think that's the guy who tweeted me the have you ever driven something like that before now i've driven boats and stuff like that but never a vessel that wow okay well that's the beard and you're in the driver see what does this man i was driving around the duck tour that was actually posed by really after that we somebody said something and he was intended from a boy integrate is yeah naturally i responded let's let's run it bro runnin falls wanna talk all that lets you want to smoke bro is running who are you to talk about my career right that's what you're thinking oh okay so that's a clear indication that john doesn't wanna fight me and he doesn't want to openly say he would you think of his last performance against tiago at that he did enough to win one but i felt like he did enough to win john has a bad habit of letting habits get the best of them and i wanna part of that man i just i just want the belt let's party i wanna fight me so he's going to ask management to you know basically save them in this situation you feel like you're ready for john now it wasn't even as leading enough to play on his high school football team like come on you're not impressed not i do i work my whole life to john in my fighting career to begin i started training to fight on i'm getting better and better start moving so people over correct a lot they do really good like how you know i got this i'm like i'm just dialed in baby do you think the US's on board with this i don't know i don't know agai you know he had trouble with with gus came back better the second time but he still had some trouble with his length man i'm like i'm like these guys rolling out do you subscribe to the theory that he has trouble with guys who have a long reach you know guys like us of sin taegu's santos little p. yourself rolled into london i russell on long i'm athletic bass i apart like never thought of mexican did now he's talking about heavyweight maybe waiting for i don't know man i don't know what he's doing is he's trying to get one contender spot what do you say to those those people they start reaching twelve no i'm undefeated or more of a story well it's all mixed never thought of mexican get it so there's a fight coming up in a couple of weeks johnny walker and corey anderson walker i am better i'm ready i'm ready to step in with this man so it seems like the man you just a regular man john jones won the fight good for him let a it just set it up for me to reach my destiny you know i feel my destiny is to fight this man and to take it it has some buzz what do you say to the people who say if walker wins he should get the town sheriff anderson wins he should get the title shot or on top of that the winner of that fight shift fight you for the so you feel like that's the thing i do shovels guys with more reach like you said he had trouble always p. and i destroyed for this last week when i said that if wiedeman won- he'd be in the driver's seat i wasn't necessarily say that this is what should happen i knew behind the scenes that they were saying why to be you know the hero the you know taken out let the legend killer that's what they wanted but didn't happen that way and they were shot you know i didn't really get time and they should have protected that they should have seen my career path than what's going on what i'm doing if people like wake up look at what's going on a little bit of backing told me great job great by a i just feels like they like you know why like almost a little annoyed you why the respect i have i have a tough takeout jones all the whole narrative they're trying to create with that like an undefeated prospect who hasn't lost the UFC or winner of so and so and so and so like whatever i'm coming for goldman that's all i want correctly from ron i it sounds like if they're on board but they're about to be onboard house talk okay what did they say to you after the fight did you get any feedback from the brass wins they were going to try to turn around and do him versus jones beginning of the year because of everything that you said so i was trying to take anything away from you i feel i'd say right now and i said it in the and you need six you've seen is in a game this is a oh let's see if he loses like nah my turn i'm up let's go the go ahead please all the other contenders loss you know a anderson lawsuit guy that i- i knocked out like and he's talking about thaddeus he ever what music is he refuses to lose comes up in fights this man so i got connected i love it i love it i i think you should get that opportunity do feel like in your heart feel like at the end of the day john will take the fight i'm challenging you right now john you're not the best in the world i'm the best in the world do you think you're better than john jones right now list like he like he should be a hit me like dude you got knocked out by this guy i trust that guy best i've never lost of never lost on kill anybody said of never lost undefeated let's all right we will leave it at that i guess i don't think there's anything else to say right i think he wil john's competitor you know he wants to be the best in the world and he is right now for now but i'm telling you the dismiss this because a lot of people calling about stepped down as great tony ferguson one said defender vacate you're going to go up to heavyweight and if you're gonna go up to heavyweight like there's always an interim fight you know then people could see you know me fight at this point are you going to stick to your guns on this one yes sticking my gun on this one i'm tired of laying out these these random woken and all of a sudden we are not one of the best heavyweights in the world number for the world i just knocked out chris wideman in a million forty three seconds you've got a pager all right well i'm saying that of this game and it's it's my whole life i have no kids have no wife everything a married to the game i'm literally buried to the like i said or like you said you came into that fight ranked number four we'll see where you end up and you are you know i'm gonna gross proved with my my hands i've proved it with my skills what else can i say i'm the best it's running let's prove who's one four three what does that mean love i love i remember that would have to yeah i wouldn't be on here talking about john jones if i didn't think better than john jones i could beat john jones the highest among active light heavyweights one of two fighters to start their UFC career at light heavyweight six and older machida started at eight no and one of the few undefeated prospects left or even think you're a prospect anymore contender i should say fighting at light heavyweight so there you go there's the longest bodies off the champs had on my mantle oh my what is the message to him because you know he's john i'm next man and i don't care what jones's management has to singing outta here with that dude you know joe jones well you're gonna find me what do you wanna do oh boy you know they're they wanted him to win so they could try to sell wiedeman versus domes no why if wiedeman would beat me oh my god wiedemann's man no came in my turn by turn i got too much fire in my heart too many skills it's time to test the chance fire's burning brighter than ever ever ever old man and i heard they want john to come back early they were talking maybe january february with this fight you should be the number one contender in my opinion you're street i know the game you know they want they wanted to sell tickets you know they wanted wideman okay with you would you be comfortable coming back that soon irving mainland you're ready okay can i just ask because you 'cause you're tickling my fancy here how would you be john jones what's the path you see it i see the path i want to make we'll see okay one more excuse me one more guests to go on today's program she had big win on fridays well in boston she's one of our favorites on the you have see win streaks in modern light-heavyweight history i gotta say i like this fired up dominic chris i like this guy this nice bit of a chip on your shoulder a lot of feedback after the fight because i together boy like why was there boy like the locus wiedeman who doesn't like chris wyoming but it's yeah that's right i have to say peanut butter very underrated my favorite ingredient in a milk shake or smoothie so i feel like program but i have to say we've got a bit of a bone to pick with our next guest she is meatball molly mcken who's kind enough to join us she's in the car right now we fight when he stops highs management i will not come out all right we shall see thank you dominic what do we got in there lisa's ohio coulter where's it from cheese go i'll get i'll give some stats about what you've done as of late like i said twelve hundred as a pros six zero and the UFC all nine of your stoppage wins have come in the first round there's options dominic anderson walker winner yawn versus jacques array there's heavy i feel like that's the come out on my you know he's never been stopped before he's never really been beaten point so you say right here now october twenty first two thousand nineteen you will knock out john jones if you fight 'em absolutely i will not john jones when seven by KO or TKO excuse me long as active win streak in the light heavyweight division your plus two point seven nine significant strike differential thank you dominic rhys fired up you heard it here first when he fights john jones he's knocking them out disappointed i have a bit of a bone to pick a couple reasons first off after the fight there i am giving you props as a as a shape this very much and i hope for your sake you got the fight as do i all right we'll talk soon good luck and congrats and so at this point if they come to something else what will you say oh we want you to fight this guy or there's young black hole with us fighting jacker who are john or busted are cut from the same cloth is that your go-to as well all the time okay yeah it's the best but i also have to say molly then and what are we eating their molly just a milkshake aerial is that a celebratory milkshake is her name matilda as what is her name matilda all right fine i'll give you pass on that one molly although i have to say you know hearing make now i really do and i know that walker could fight MSG and everyone goes crazy but i i don't know i feel like you could sell it right now he's ready he's undefeated feel like that i'm trying to support the cause of the blues getting attacked by the reds and i thought you'd come at some point to my defense also you told me you were going to come in studio after the win and you're nowhere to be found where to be found where were you i'd like to know what were you doing what was so important that you were doing on friday night that you can come to my defense where was i in order to be found in fact i even had to tag you in i actually literally tagged you in the string of tweets i'm getting attack here's patty coming after me and and do you know the the tag team the british bulldogs now he's a french bulldog i know but there was a tag team from from england call the british bulldogs david our cheese what does that is that a famous place in liverpool yet named archie foundation pantley oh milkshakes othello blue as a fellow evertonian and then i just got ta get ganged up patty pellets coming after me everyone's coming after me and so with one minor and one loser okay you saw this at some point right i'm assuming a couple of later you saw the string of tweets or no i've never thought much traffic before there's just so much i guess ruben all okay this is one of the byproducts of becoming a famous UFC star oh so we're kind of dog french bulldog oh how's that going and bill fans shrunk frank okay so matilda was the name of and you are any particular reason why i choose call us off not really i've been through social media too much just like oslo club any particular reason i can't help it what's it called i was gonna coleman trade within our just come home because it got a dog now enough i have to say congratulations on the win but you seem upset with your performance i saw the quote that you gave out afterwards to the the CPR you seem very down why are you so down it quick enough on the flip side you could say because you are sick you know the fact that you want and looked at dominant is a good thing that you were able to overcome i'm happy with my progression the UFC and how my styles evolve and what i was very upset by i did manage to get the finish on a eight is that is that the thing that you crave after fight yet it's a milkshake and chicken wings oh yes dislike ronda rousey used to do the trump to give it now we're these nerves or did you have food poisoning were what was going on now i didn't call anyways it was ready all the train was amazing not just out real disappointed of watched it back on biz ext a i think zave one on a yeah i wouldn't mind you loans and against i was sick in the change in broome before komo's on then i was on the second the fight finished i was sick again a students abused so in the fight according to get me second winds a felt like i've got those according i felt like i was going to be sick in the aw i i i think we hit like we very often australian styles ferry hey jennifer from the cage you get disqualified so i asked a coal bucknell felt like i felt like had so much more to give ariel on a couldn't shevchenko a frequent opponents which i wouldn't mind a crocodile so so you're on the same card as may see you got a good look at opt-in opponents next year who thinking anyone in particular well i've been finks today so be honest out of see that may be it's hard to not be sick whilst fighting okay wow so you said that that was your worst that even though you got the win got three in a row now you're feeling comfortable smith and the dynamite kid and they had a bulldog named matilda now i don't know what you're going on a phone that just makes all right fair enough quite arrogance insure of south with that on finally realize she's just someone chasing a dream on a she just believes in a cell phone from there right the adversity this is a a silver lining if you will like upset by a on the UFC alike now now it's time to take a bit of a step or do you like the progression like you would you wanna be moved a little quicker or do you like the speed at which you're getting pushed here i don't wanna put too much lace on the fact felt sick aid to take away from diane's a performance take away to mottram yamba a are you like that matchup for yourself on who saudi macy barbara i think me and macy will tough an obsolete interest is a town like dry out the night before the way i write on food i did feel names for the feist excite laughing my foot weeks a little bit different here is a a fall before five weeks you when i've seen it in cebu some things i've fought us all johansen stop going on about page a. i wouldn't mind page minds may see a wouldn't mind on tony singleton off to win on my waist and i am now on my way stay i'm good enough to win so improving on rain name the US can do whatever they going to do i'm just going to say yes both i would really like it's a snack and as of now i would minds across the i don't know because i'm not so i'm not wrong chest and she's wrong so i don't know how go the things she's the sister and we were talking about this macy like go after the sister and then you get the attention of the champ right yeah my wife keeps all twisted rush still didn't stop there was much more likely to be honest from us on the floor bother you still haven't gone into stoppage win in the seas is something that's weighing on you can you say that one more time does it bother you that you haven't gone the stoppage we interesting that she wants to kind of i think that's part of the way that she's selling it but that is that is a good point it's a fair point i think it's a fight that people would like as well there's a man standing by your car yeah what's he i don't know we just it was a bit strange oh my gosh you know what the past few i've been a win awareness navis for this one why not because they feel like she now this is i'm sorry hello page we've just been a state license she at your fight as well now she has to babysit the dog oh my gosh wow is it hard for her to watch you fight is a hard in europe see yet it really bothers me i believed that the fight been stopped in the second round on friday out milkshake a chinese glades video games oh what a date wow what it will now which video game from bell look at that by the way speaking of that preparation working with owen roddy right yeah been also visually mccall's happen to crazy taxi a what else do we buy a racing game car racing was shia wow you they could they could charge top dollar for that meatball versus the goat in a sparring match i'm telling ya i witnessed in preparation preparations goes and this complex was gonna serve smith okay that would make you confident a bustle was one i wouldn't mind really would minded crock on tony shevchenko because obviously she's a chef chen tim come with the goat's with the goes and awesome fruits on yeah come on swear to god how did that go yeah she's wrong so i think a full yeah i feel like that's a great match up as well i think i think all three are great but i like i like where you're thinking about the shevchenko due to intimidate him now i've got me sidekick who's that is that liam court yet to come over next week and then i'll go back over a a think she'd be fight in february omar a took i took diane's on the seconds for like fourteen or fifteen months two shots a i tomorrow if it's not leveling new all koshen you to be pacified say it's just if it's a walk in the park why would she fight age on the way to the stage this was great this feeling that good look at you look at you there look at those moves icon respected name it's nice mix it up with different train and partners who zones go try and kill you keeps saying as as macy's why is macy trying to fight page on page house and she say she's going to be so beasley why would you AM four ounces as well oh my gosh that's credible oh wow she's but this is something you'll continue to do go train with those the moon walk in a it was just i just enough to cause any way say real to dry out the night before so fighting in the states as opposed to back in europe and in the talks kills yet what it's amazing sean ballots for aim so on hopefully if you actually london is march of hopefully so a the training with little bits a with ryan cases j. apes causse a i even got to spar with how taco fall you're familiar with him yet i watched them schools seven baskets he came on and we're just going has my friend pete carroll likes to call her you were with her all weekend boston she got footage of you as you were going to the wayne's for the official lands you moonwalked the f. sonus and swept off air salt buffs and over so i was in good spirits to be honest and how did boston celtics it was amazed in the atmosphere was real on a a set the precedent for when i competed they don't try are you join the higher ups are noticing that's why i got you see what i did so fast riser man on i'm a quick learner in a we just keep helping each overdose and speaking of because i knew that's what i thought that that's who you are referring to poject but i know she was by your side mainstream mccord yeah i see in the pistons play when i was a UFC two eighteen detroit with barbecue that was okay but this game communiqu until robertson drunk in hotel that's what you're doing i saw you went to a celtics game you got the gear and everything did you enjoy your time your it was amazing i got to see taco all seven foot six of them so long wait in before me dunstan the stage and i went after you now so i i nearly knocked me out i'll just show a east grade i love art martin may a mutual so you're not going to believe some mon- call on some by told liverpool one of these days perhaps if dr until to win at UFC two forty four by the way i read something about you recently that i didn't know your your your mother overcame years of substance abuse any difference if i'm not fighting and live appeal ashraful fights in a matter of fact okay wow it'd be nice to see them go wow so yes she's being around the block and she's she's the director of a charter cheaper short specifically demanded he's the producer of this program demanded that you'd be on this week so yes he said we have to have molly although they were disappointed when when we were in new york unfortunately eat say see the big apple no not anymore conne connecticut ebb yeah look at the difference sixty months make yup and it's been amazing watching you go through that journey you're always very accessible molly you're always very gracious with your time in fact corporate jake who's been getting a lot of heat on this program over the past couple of weeks because he's been cutting off the guests very that's role now because coach ellis was like because we rely heavily heavily intoxicated by this time i think it's great that you were hanging out with jillian robertson because she gave you your first so you guys are cool oster after she yeah i know i said the same thing when they made me move here but unfortunately here i am we clip this off and tell people this is how the guests react to tell them you know they have to come to a lot cooler the cincinnati or cincinnati jeez close connecticut connecticut is i don't even know that she made me a better marsh losses the best of human and she humbled me big time so to be on the same cars hey when she lost when she came back knots in connecticut not much to be honest my show ESPN headquarters no it's a great place i don't wanna get in trouble molly trying not to get fired here but i hope you enjoy your rondo you weren't coming in studio because we had talked about this and then you kind of left me hanging sorta like the tweets but liverpool and everton was in new york yeah she watches them all but she doesn't come to america she doesn't like to tropical south okay a residential rehabilitation and she probably saved more lives than i could have account so a yeah i'm i've never been told she she watches her on facetime at the seconds of got out of the cage name she's everyone in england anyway okay you're you're milkshake with your significant other you enjoy the fruits of your labor and the spoils of victory and i'm looking forward to the florio because of not wanting to come across like a bit of a x-factor story on a unused shop story to get people to listen to me all to to pay x one next year in england let's do it you've versus antonina macy page i'll take any of those i really want to shevchenko aw me lots of flying back from new york on tuesday so i was a combat or combat with them and i was on the show let me new best friends wow that's amazing maybe you'll guys we'll we'll train together in the future the second cova trae i'm strong i was like jillian sounds weird awkward asleep basically one over to it and the change rooms and said if you wanna komo frittering where olga richard and couple of to show you the aim jillian change we live forever the great andrew davis who by the way was disappointed last week when i was saying all the people that i was thankful for we we excluded him by mistake wasn't done on purpose of it nice win for molly mccann on friday okay at the top of the show i asked you all who should john but i just want to give them a shadow of the stats and info group at ESPN he does a phenomenal job a huge asset to the show each and every week with these factoid like this one she landed molly did a career high hundred and thirteenth significant strikes in a career high five take downs in her win this past friday and she's also the third a fighter to land one hundred plus significant strikes in three consecutive fights the other two angela hill and you wanna yonge check so tom he's laid back he's just happy to be there very fired up earlier today on the program so dominic throughout throughout corey anderson slash johnny walker winner that's happening at USC to forty four and just a couple of weeks less than a couple of weeks MSG throughout the winner of st bay three no timetable yet jones fight next should it be dominic reyes who was very fired up if you miss that go check it out afterwards a very usually calm the hotel i just sat a camman gail comforting so we spent about five hours gotten drunk together CPR is the name she's and that's all i wanted to real i just wanna pre- if i'm getting busted after we fight cinema title i love it and good job not using an inhaler in between he asks the inspector the commission inspector if he can use his inhaler he has asthma this has been documented and they're telling him that they want him to wait and he's saying i'll just find anyone and i wanna find in december and they're not giving him anyone and they're not really open to him fighting someone who's well there you have it molly mcken nice win for her shoes little harden herself but there you go three and the UFC what steps do we have on her on twitter you can only put four four options if there was a fifth i'd probably put other 'cause i'm curious if people i mean you could i know go blues thank you molly asked take care bye page they don't have to decide right now but i would certainly put him in the driver's seat now let's talk quickly about this situation with greg hardy so case you missed it in between the second and third round on a bunch of different ways but i'm actually shocked that walker anderson winner is in last place because the thing or maybe the the wednesday that francis is very frustrated that they're not giving them a fight he wanted the winner of dc dc loss and other going to run it back past you can you can look up some articles from back in the day where they talk about his asthma he asks the inspector nothing to discuss he's still recovering from the surgery and throughout francis and gone i mentioned last week in my thoughts call which is wednesdays by the way not on mondays anymore detention aim i call it leaks out there so simple i'm very proud of me more choose amazing human stops them from doing it corner gives it to him does the pomp and we're on our way moments later daniel cormie dominick cruz on the broadcast and on that fight you saw when they did the the split-screen on friday DC was like one more one more day one and none of it totally no sold that so so really says yes and then he says it's you sada proved at no point do i hear the inspector saying yes go ahead but it doesn't seem like he yonge curry winner because i saw a lot of people on friday saying to me oh what about the walker anderson winner or what about the gun six percent right behind that franson got twenty two percent and in last place with thirteen percent is the winner of johnny walker corey anderson wow and so worth noting only got me a whole lot more excited after his interview on the show today but thus far it is not done i think they're probably gonna wait to see what happens at two forty four lower ranked so he's a little frustrated i think the john jones fight sort of like how aniston went up to five and fought forrest griffin that would be a fun fight so those were the four options what are the he's polarizing puts it mildly a lot of people don't want him fighting in the AFC a lot of people don't want him fighting an enemy he will never be able to to to shed able to separate the past from the present the truth is in the massachusetts law they're nowhere does it so if you can make a happen dave i just think it's a step all fa- make on i guess it really gets approved me we bring in marc ratner VP of regulatory affairs they all say t- legal and then like two hours later the fight that greg hardy won via decision gets overturned else but we've never seen the senate UFC fight haven't seen an actual like asthma inhaler be used and i also haven't seen a fight get overturned that night without an appeal but we're told from mark ratner were told from the broadcast of this was illegal could he use it the inspectors seem to never on camera but he seems to reply based off what i heard is it medical greg hud love and they decide to overturn it and apparently greg hardy is very upset afterwards and at the press covers look greg hardy is not a sympathetic figure we all know this jacques winner and here we are with our pool and they're in last place so how about that so we'll see what happens i think it should be dominant is he the vada that's clear and maybe that's why mark ratner who's a former head of the nevada commission said that it was illegal every state is different who no contest and so initially when you hear all this you're like all right it's obviously illegal i've never seen anyone do it i saw kingman strikeforce one time pump something but it wasn't an inhaler state that he can't use this and so if his opponent would have appealed and they decided that he didn't bring it up people have to say mr corporate jake with just over seventeen thousand votes we have dominic reyes lead with thirty eight percent than the winner of steep a cornea three at twenty it's another example as to why there needs to be a national commission why if everyone was just under the same umbrella going by the same rules that's not an official way and just because you're using something out of competition or even in college doesn't mean you're using it like in between rounds that's a big difference in my opinion and you can't same jurisdiction i feel like the stuff what happened and also be like it's just another example of how a lot of these commissions especially these commissions that don't get a lot of big time there'd be one set of rules and people would be able to abide by them and be like no one really knows what's going on we find out these things and the rules are i and i was surprised that they overturned it that quickly without like maybe confiscate it because because then there was jeff novitsky telling kevin that if it has in it i don't know like did you test it so i don't know why they were so quick to overturn it also sits the president of overturning something after he didn't tell anyone like what his team is saying look oh he told the inspector and that's the commission insolvent i don't know if i agree with that i don't hear the person say yes and be about sports are sort of flying by the seat of their pants they're kind of making it up as they go along and maybe that's an indication of how young the sport is but i think the same would be for ochsner kickboxing match it's just kind of crazy that we're being told it's legal it's not in the rules then they overturn it without an appeal is passed ever it's going to fall him forever and that's just the truth that's just facts and so people aren't going to defend them and see legal i've never seen this before and it seems like it would be a performance enhancer right yeah you have asthma but other people i'm sure have asthma and you don't see them do this like that like my biggest takeaway walking away from where those two things a again if we had a national commission i feel like this would be wouldn't solve all our problems but i feel like amount of this and that but how do they know how do they know what's in it honestly like this may be a dumb question but like how do you actually know what was in that and how'd you know the levels that were in how do you know the amount that was you know what he's got to live with that he did what he did and he he has his past and everything that is i mean it's always gonna follow him but if this was sent to us the massachusetts state athletic commission MS was made aware of greg hardy's use of an inhaler just before the start doc and there's a line in there where i talk about how i was asked what were the things specifically what were the things that the news ufa regime did the fact like we talked about the charles rosa thing once that fight is done if no one's appealing you're not overturning it so why did they overturn this whole thing very confusing and did i say that they did this unlike the previous regime nowhere in my comment that aired that talk about the previous regime that i- disparaged added a little more i saw john mccarthy spoke to MMA fighting about it and wait in he would be a great resource so i suggest you go read what he had to say about it but saint to different things so it's a bit of a mess as of right now greg hardy hasn't appealed he's deciding whether or not he's gonna appeal it's going to cost them some money and so we'll see what happens the third round of last night's fight the inhaler was not pre approved by the commission for use during the fight in accordance with the commission's regulations therefore the commission overturned the wind cleared about no contest so they're saying it wasn't pretty it's going to be interesting to see if this stands and what the president is from here on out by speaking of john mccarthy just very quickly we had this thing i was on the thirty for thirty chuck and tito like you can have gatorade you can't have body armor anything coffee all these things so why would you be able to do that but if there's nowhere that's written and stretches things and it's like coming after me on twitter you could see the tweets and then i just reach out to text i'm like hey man every time i see you you say that being written sorta like the the the new lands and all that stuff it's just all being done on the fly and so initially when you hear these people on the broadcast illegal you're like and then and then we're said like it's you've gotta prove but to the best of our knowledge about it hasn't come out and said that it's like the whole thing was just a expletive show to be honest to try to get the the you have c. on-track to try to change the fortunes of the UFC and one of the things i said was that they ran towards regulation nowhere in my comment a lot of work all that stuff and so i say this comment and john mccarthy on twitter comes at me and saying like an quite frankly i think makes a lot of assumptions hardy's team of saying they did tell them about it at the medicals on friday so i don't know who's we have to find find out in the questionnaire if it's written there but there it's the very definition of performance enhancing you're you're helping yourself perform most places you can't have anything other than water in the corner as dana white mentioned in the post me wh- what this really like i can't sit here and say this i was right the side was wrong it's all very gray my biggest takeaway from all this honestly is at a the previous regime or anyone who was a part of the previous regime or anyone who is a part of the foundation of the sport who tried to help get the sport legalized did that was just a bizarre thing and quite frankly took away from dominic raises win i thought the other great performances and so it was just very unfortunate i don't really have like a definitive answer on this i just kind of just wanted to quite frankly i expect more and i it doesn't change my opinion but like you know me you have my phone you text me a lot to go out like that and to try to do this to me the you can't have this in the massachusetts like what are they go by and they haven't really they put out one statement whereas a statement was a little bit surprising and all the other stuff and to get all personal but i was doing this while you were in journalism school i don't know that's that's john mccarthy i know and by the way if we want next monday on this program here's a snippet left you when they took over was run towards regulation that is a fact they tried to regulate i'm not trying to say that unlike the previous regime i'm not trying to the previous regime didn't do that but that is a fact on abraham lincoln or the first world war didn't live it i don't think that's a fair statement to make i'm not trying to say that i know more than you all i'm trying to say is one of the things that they did that game why don't i critique you when you're interviewing people because i went to journalism school you're on the broadcast right i don't do that that's not the kinda guy that i am i don't talk that way god i was asked a question and just because i didn't actually stand in the courtroom i don't think disqualifies me from talking about it there are people who talk about or you'd that there's ten seconds snippets taken all over the place and we're talking about a whole bunch of stuff i was talking specifically about the era the new era tim this wishes i went to brooklyn on friday we talked to forty four we walked around the hood we even went to get multiple soup it was great and guess what it's going to air someone finds an opening saying that i was in journalism school in your head i don't dispute any of that i don't know why we have to make a personal dispute anything that you said as far as where you were and where i was when this stuff was going on i was in brooklyn meeting up with my guy action bronson action bronson has been on this program a couple of times the first time we met we talked about having multiple soup we talked about talking about forty four we talked about meeting up sometimes you talk about these things and they don't actually come to fruition well guess what this time respond to someone it turns into a whole thing and then of course you know all this stuff and i just

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Welcome to back in your life on this Monday October fourteen two thousand and nineteen is Canadian thanksgiving so if you are off in Canada if you're often the United States a lot of people off today hope you're enjoying the program sitting back with some families some Turkey back she reasserts herself and does it with a broken foot or at least a very injured foot for the the the back end of the fight I mean scene but what we know on this Monday is that she beat Michelle waterson that it was never really in doubt that it was a phenomenal performance one of her best he was a victory for everyone involved everything that was reported by us and others was one hundred percent accurate in fact Angela Hill and joined Calderwood reached out whatever it is that you do on this particular day thank you for taking some time out and joining us on this beautiful afternoon here in Bristol Connecticut and let me tell you there's a lot a second installment of their playoffs later this week you've got the UFC in Boston on special Friday show with a big fight between Chris wideman and dominant Thursday and Sunday a ton of big things happened a ton of grade fights ton to talk about on today's show and of course the train doesn't stop he fell back with the about whether or not she would make wait a lot of people saying those stories weren't true I'm not quite sure why we had to change the facts after the fact the fact that she made way was a great story supremely impressive stuff from you on she handled everything like a pro and it seemed like maybe the criticism maybe gave her a little extra motivation she needed that who knows so that was impressive and that's uses the best part of the news is that she made the weight and she got over whatever Hump there was to get over and she made it in what appeared to be a healthy state the same kind of competitor in there that she wasn't the same kind of forced at one fifteen was the Great Roy Jones junior once said y'all must've forgot and looked phenomenal in that fight on Saturday against Michelle waterson there was a narrative that started to brew that maybe you WanNa was done that she didn't have the same fire that she wasn't going on in the world of a man I know I say that all the time but there was an abundance of mixed martial arts this past weekend holy smokes one headed it's one hundred event you had because she is still one of the very best one fifteen and she may in fact be the number one contender at one hundred and fifteen pounds now could she be next for John Wylie that remains to be risk potential number one contender fight to five so a lot to discuss but the biggest story on this Monday afternoon in my opinion has to be you WANNA NJ check there was a lot of talk story and we'll talk to her hopefully in a matter of moments also of note chrome gracie losing to Cub Swanson Great Moment for Cub Swanson a guy who was on that losing streak who seemed like h words you had rise in you had Bella tour in Italy you had the UFC and tap but there was just so much pf l. playoffs up so much going on between essentially compared to how green krone is plus his lack of striking for me felt like a tough match-up but hey Kudos to cups watson big performance maybe he was fighting for his job in the UFC and I remember when this fight was first announced I remember thinking openly on the podcast like maybe it was in quite some time last year she looked good at one fifteen and seem like people forgot about that and then she had the fighter 125 against Valentina Shevchenko now all of a sudden she's she's no longer factor she comes hello everyone I'm Marie how Lonnie Happy Canadian thanksgiving too yeah yeah I think it's Columbus Day here and maybe some other stuff but really most important performance and for a guy who's so good at boxing to fight a guy who's striking is obviously not his strong suit that's why I felt like the veteran status plus the striking that's a mission everyone's like oh what a genius fight now he's a legit star but clearly there's more work to be done clearly there's more evolution to be had and cub Swanson isn't done and that was soon cassandra's Cub Swanson maybe I understand what they were trying to do he's a big name and Cassandra's a tough opponent and so from Caceres you go to come I get it Eugene Behrman the head coach over at city kickboxing on this program for months and finally he has said yes coming off the big weekend last weekend with Dan Hooker and Bradford Friday but his story is amazing PF L. Just Day to he may not be a household name but stay tuned for this story it's incredible Mike Davis said he'll join us a one forty I to here are you are you there oh there you are you see me I see you how's it going hey guys he city haven't talked to this man in almost a year he's back December twenty first against the Korean Zombie Chanson Joan I'm looking forward to talking to I've been trying at three twenty five Travis Barker of blink one eighty to one of the greatest drummers of all time huge anime fan huge combat sports fan he'll join US I love this I'm really looking forward to that he's GonNa join us on the program Dmitri's Johnson Wand the one flyweight tournament this past weekend and look very good in doing so now three zero and one championship he'll join us Florida there she is you WanNa be joined by her via phone facetime all right Yolanda unless this is gonna standing like a also there's a lot to digest here let me run down today's lineup and then we'll get to our first guest of the day I'm very much looking forward to talking to her at four Oh five pm eastern time we'll talk to Brian Ortega but did it need to happen so soon didn't need that kind of a jump for craziness second profile I know hindsight is twenty twenty it's very easy for me to see after the fact he could win that fight via first time inst- Brock lahser rematch of U. 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One twenty-one also Tyson Fury Braun strowman he'll join US David Michel won a spectacular fight on the price with an incredible knock knock it to the your once again with an unbelievable finish the he'll he'll kick I mean just amazing stuff out of him Ike Davis with great I thought he was broken leg till the last seconds like you we thought that it was broken and even all the tests I had before that extra page Jackson is back in December December twenty ninth fighting Fyodor a millionaire I'm looking forward to talking to 'em Aj McKee is going to be on the program he just got the number one spot in our top twenty fighters out fighting a one twenty five of Michelle Waterson didn't want to catch like if everyone was being played this was all a big ruse and a lot of people wasted their time last week it was all accurate but the could start today's show and it's with these starve this past weekend the Great Yanni and J check kind enough to join us on this Monday afternoon coming off a big victory in Tampa L. and of course drought a Sonya winning so that man right over there Eugene Mirman who's has his arm around in case you don't know he's kind of under the Radar Ziegler suffered are I prologue that was a big story going into this card giving birth four months ago now all of a sudden she's returning to action but all in all the Tampa card was away all the doctors were saying I've always broken it's it's factor but it's not you know it was really swollen so good everyone said I think that was in reference to that and at what point did you injure the foot you remember and how difficult was it the fight through that and under the age of twenty five and he's coming off a big win Cain Velasquez is going to be competing in world wrestling with every day to see how I caught that was amazing on October thirty first again to do I put on a hell of a performance for myself am I guess he's already big and on I just had on the program he won a big fight on four days notice this past Saturday and tennis whereas one of the top contenders at one fifteen we'll get an update on the neck where she stands in the division of a more but there was only one way actually it's good it's a little bit swollen by getting better and better with every day so I'm good good did you break your foot now I can I was I'm going to enjoy myself well thank you so much for doing this you on I really appreciate first things first how are your feet feeling pressure on your shoulders going into this fight to remind people that you're not done that you're still factor fifteen that you're still the queen of the strawweights we are we like it's only like very swollen I need to I need to rest my WanNa you've been in a lot of big fights you've got a lot of big stages that you fought on but we reached out to you I reported on it as well and I understand why you were so confident and defined when this came out we weren't the first reported but certainly added to the report did you think I I I I was not flabbergasted by her performance on something and also that's the they actually I got the resources day and my focus on token swung us was so bad so I I I felt lots of thing during the five you said this was never true and it was mind games did this conversation happened could you tell us what exactly happened with the way this whole story from beginning to end possible profession okay do not if it's broken it's broken like what can be worse than three four or five pieces I didn't curb the tylenol and I was like if it's broken arena chip Janko was the right choice I wasted my body my mind's eye reset my body and my mind and everything ended up working good I was very tired but you know I'm this Bible fighter who needs to put on work and feel like I'm giving everything also problem you're just trying to mess with Michelle Waterson head and throw her curveballs that true was this all mind games or was it real what you're saying here is that real it's in everything my understanding was that you reached out to the UFC around ten or so days before the fight and said it's going to be a problem but then eventually got over the Hump and eventually made the way but then after the fact because of the fact that you were coming off a loss and this was your your return to strawweight and forget about all the talk about your weight going into the fight which we'll get to in a second but did you feel like you had a little more I was not even close to these away in the fight so everything ended up and so on Friday and wait said this was all mind games that there was never virgin though right no alcohol correct that's right now frank deserve it it's not it's not how did you feel like you had to make one fifteen in order to get the title shot like if you don't if you fight a one twenty then it's hard to get a one fifteen pounds is the point I I always think of the business booth on hell of awards last thirteen we it it was hard com lots of fierce lots of blood I was even even if I understand ponds heavier and I want that five I would get the title because we've see Coninck Jeff Novitsky the southland thinking go me were you worried at any point that you wouldn't be able to make it no I told that in the most and four durant I decided to not kicking the fifth run by the you know I forgot then I'm a warrior and I was like Hey I can tell you the truth only me and I have to give credit to these thieves performance institute quality and quantity to on time or they on every day can we can we clear up the story because I have a problem because I'm in such a dedicated fighter I always put on however worth so this little bit worried that the even know if see like we all like Manley with idea of doing much weight each if some but okay good good but what about the haters is it getting annoying like people in your I smell no doesn't get annoying that does not cut ah how my body was going through charap my body just shut down and I couldn't have I was doing everything and cool us as always I can see purple and very big and very big by my actually these big salt is good it's like a balloon Conor McGregor they know my volume not who I am and like this evening point was just to prove that people love me you know and I am very do not say I cut it off I cut it off I thought what do you mean by not GonNa give me money they these people like they don't they have been after dieter they I take the critic because critic is good but not the trump people you know item get I don't get so turns on you as what we drinking their Mojica that looks phenomenal what do we have there a double double I'm grateful throwing events and what about the people online you know sometimes these you know the phenomenon they love you when you're on top and then all of a sudden you stumble a little bit other story about you know what is up to Detroit and then other people read it and they believe they believe it and they create other stories in posse rumors mentioned you know I I give it all together and that's that's the point nobody's GonNa Change nobody can deal with the emotions I do Bergdahl having they're both physically I carry myself in my I can doubt me or say whatever they want but there is there's no pressure going into that first rose fight about how hard the way cut was and all that coming back in over a year to one fifteen like on Thursday where you saint yourself they they gonna put it like one into one piece they're going to play but it was it was it was it was really painful I'm very happy expect from hammer from dodge man you spoke to espn dot com leading up to this fight my colleague Mark Monday about some of the changes in your life and your personal life did I cut it I always carry it and that's the thing and I want to spread love when people don't know about need that very emotional and I'm full of love and this is this is this is not worth it I don't WanNa do I don't WanNa be unhealthy or was it surprising once you got over that yeah like right before was before the winds change a lot of things a lot of stuff that happened in your life that you had to get over to feel different now like are we looking at a different Yana now you feel like your life is much better into Stanford to Delta gone after a long break and I I in you and you saw that did the break took after defied volumes balloting assets so I do have care I know you know if you want on with the real nice reach out will help to my beam jump on my sister the asking me don't be focused on a remorse and grow sabes or fake news or fake service that's it you even confident I went through sewing like difficulties in my personal have buckfield personalized people with unclear it was beautiful beautiful you know like what a Queens Day Thursday my weight Solo I didn't have to take the single view Mike my big was still becoming a challenger by now I know I did decide to show that I became the chain one more time in my life you called me you asked me to to jump on the phone talk about there are people who like a we copied this interview who take a few words and make on I'm better professional heuristic of my business and I was nine the show and for no reason my weight went up and and I just go the CFO giving money they nothing in shit in so I'm not focus on them I know when I was my energy on it I would I would I mean I read the article cited because like from her work and cannot wait survivable type of women I might be I home soon I go on vacation because I'm training hard entering you more and getting just better and these fight I prove that I'm the best that I'm dangerous you know and people don't know it sounds deal I need anybody they need me more than than than you've seen enough because you're the face of the class of course take like a the rights critic by the no I just I just smoked focus on it just cannot deal with business can be offense skipping for the like the second throws teasha Valentin ascend a strong message towards towards when do you think it will happen okay that's my were you told by the UFC you're the number one contender you're gonNA fight John I would not sign we agreement before for these guys before he and not focus on dump people you know the something we can be taking a break and I'm begging I know who I am and so you're sticking a one fifteen correct you you're staying at this class let's say like it was beautiful it was I wanna be focusing getting better and better and beat product person ready and I came now they don't know what's coming right the champ can be worried and bodyguard I might be back to the states ververs from DC are preparing for inside what's the looking be okay and and I hope I never wish through like join you never fought it before like are you impressed with the challenges that she poses she made it today and she made it to the league she's very fast punches crispy juicy is very very happy this is our too much drama at Att now we spoke with tanks now he's a really fight that he deserved how did this happen how did you change it because I'm strong easy fan by mind to me we I called that I was finding by the I was not I'm a warrior I I think I could be surprised by the eye contact percent and I just saw that after I just do my best you know and when people talk about you with Obama as good that they are jealous because they have their own lives so they wanna leave someone as I did I wish that was wondering big he's really yes I shouldn't say this because the always should should suffered people and this is what I said he can make the way then and it's my life goal to begin this Chile champion and all before before before tribe we shoved their songs you've grown up physically okay so it's it's a done deal there's no one else no rose not a Kobe's he's just I can read you know he's a nice guy never talk about about your kidneys could ask you on a house your friend doing back in Poland the boy who's battling leukemia we talked about doing there is other boy and yes I can ask you you WanNa what's The vibe like at the gym with all this in colby stuff like is it weird at the gym these days the face off and you went down and he did like the thing interface like this that's how I knew you were trying to while you wouldn't get it what do you mean yeah was it good they see me only from the old several dozen defeating that they mean an aggressive person by north and I want us to go off and this is the only see the lawful and if people why not side like equals them in performance and I'm very happy I'm going to come up to my coaches like I said we would a message from from these boys from parents that hey the doctor's let's go home which defied this is sorts amazing you just don't like the way he talks about the team and the teammates of course I do not like we should respect each other they know that I'm going to have more and more fight their stemming from all of the war very dangerous you know she she proved that type of filing type D Jays Jesse Josh how she's very very engineered by I'm ready doc difficult relationships all the other stuff all wishing that this is not that we're live by when he all were in we'd just situations I deal our defense so I offered the hey this is speculation but I do not care you know like I said I can take I am happy we demise walkout Song Choice James Arthur an amazing singer and the was that shot by now I'd go buy them by by the way you know how I knew that you WanNa was back when you did knocking on your amazing of course and I wish them the best and you're doing amazing work and that's all I want to mention that because I think you get unfair uh-huh perform for you guys to fight in Tampa every single that every single day feeling great okay thank you that's my and my best friend who I know since we were sears is here and she has a concert where she said eight thousand she thought the bag and that's the point I want to be with these people because they make them stronger you know I know him because of that and I'm very happy it's been really hard who support each other and Corby shrimp the respect the rules you know but the he's not he's acting case Connor McGregor you know trying to Arthur man I went on the except with too much and we all are struggling you know we are having problems in we are going to be horses the growth mindset in our I'm a professional athlete it's me and my buddies Brad me on and to do I feel like a teenager it's amazing it was great it was like the old thank you so much yes and back and back well we're happy that you're back and people can be seen they control snow sent me pick it up we'll send my son Burma's near Argun thunder are you excited about this opportunity yeah congratulations you on I hope you feel better hope your foot better and welcome back I just WanNa say yeah definitely and and show videos that people opened the door for him that he he he's driving pricey cars he's he's hard worker beach and loving life what a performance on Saturday so there you go a little bit of a wink wink still stand by it all got over the hump ended up now who should Jong Li defend her title her Straw title against first she had to defend the title she's coming over to the United States in fact I think she's coming Baz much as they can so busy reverend vice I go for I don't fucking foundation counselor fight this yes you do great work for them Sir criticism sometimes online do a lot of great work for that cancer croissant you bothers me all right it bothers me you're a great person so and she'll say that she you know she already agreed to it and it's all it's all done but let's ask the people on this Monday afternoon let's let's put up a poll on my twitter page right here important grateful you know something my physiotherapist ballengee groups Choeysong Jennifer goes in she's amazing you know and that that's what's that over today to do a bit of a media tour and she's going to New York and Boston and I heard she's going to be meeting with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots taking the weight with flying colors and she's now once again a player at one fifteen last week at the top of the show I asked corporate jake to to do a poll and God I need to say thank you thank you think you think you'd see stuff off it's all the people from behind the scenes you know and Dr Amazing and very I have new sponsor as she management component as supervisor meaningful genetic I cannot wait to to to put on however in down thank you enjoy the beach we'll talk to you soon there she is you wanna check the former champion she is back she's beautiful she molded that he will be because cheer on you know because the things are from England Great Britain he'll he'll he'll he's already it doesn't seem like the Mona has he done anything to you know I pay about okay earthy dollar done bungee groups Dr at and that's great between the mother the Queen is back bow down to the queen you're wanting when you go with Yanic he's being with Gordon you know I had to give myself for thirteen leads buckner Y is a big fan of course of the Patriots and Tom Brady in particular and so they're having this big media tour going up with the Boston card this weekend all this anyway she got to defend the title we don't know who it is officially you WANNA says Sir who should she defend her title against I you Wanna Nj Tatyana Suarez Rose Dummy Eunice hurt neck and injured neck house the next feeling it's getting better I still can't go live yet so that's Kinda why like everybody's like so in a matter of seconds we're going to be joined by one of the members of that group we just spoke to you wanna a lot of you have been asking about Tatiana Suarez what's her status coming if a very big and impressive win in Chicago let's talk to Tatyana Suarez right here now who joins us via the magic of facetime Tatyana how are you should fight for the next yeah why not I mean I think I think you know I think it's kind of a good fight for her because I feel this way I feel like you thought I didn't give you credit after the win in June over answer off because and why do I feel this way because a lot of fun when we asked about who's the fighter of the year as of right now and then of course the coach of the year which ruffled all kinds of feathers but I still stand by our choices I feel like you don't like me anymore I feel like we're gonNA fight is true Tatyana are we beefing these days now come on be honest let's because you're very active on social media I love you like your comments interacting with people but you don't make the actual official prediction now the only time I ever do aw I don't even think I watched that interview okay no I think it was on twitter but anyway now I've said too much he is everything good yeah it's good to talk to you let me just click let me just address the elephant in the room cleared up now what do you mean no not true it's just me being the Roddick Yeah Okay I can I can I tell you it's good to see you again what did you think of the fight on Saturday did you watch it I did I thought it was a great fight were you surprised that you wanna look that good she said she would have never agreed to that fight if she didn't get the promise that a win would get her a title shot and so she thinks she's fighting for the belt next you think that is warranted do you think she up there in the rankings and she got to win okay so now let's talk about you and where you fit in all this after the fight against back in June you mentioned that you were battling some people tweeted that and you'd like the tweets and I was like Oh maybe touchdowns matter misunderstood what I was saying because I said the big winner of the fight was Michelle waterson because I thought that they were going to put her in that fight I know the number seven ranked opponent and she gets a title shot so yeah I think you know she gets title shot now because now she no I thought she did exactly what I that's exactly what I thought she was GonNa do but I don't really like to pick fights and stuff like if I know the person and we're really good friends or something like that and I believe in them and then I'll then I'll say something okay we spoke to her moments ago and potential title federal number which they ended up doing and I thought that you felt like I was not giving New Year props your credit whatever so I just WanNa if you felt that way I wanted to I wanted to clear it up data I don't like to like pick sides because you know it just don't like to so I just don't ever say anything but that's kind of what I thought okay white lace so so yeah I'm just I'm getting better in the meantime and you know I'll be back and I can't wait Thaddeus in what exact could you tell us like medically what exactly is the issue that you're dealing with right now so like blessing I wanna do is like start a fight ham and then have all these problems and stuff like that and then can't fight you know so my coaches wanted me to pull out my last for that but right now I just got to be patient and be smart about my recovery because the last thing I wanna do you know they asked me to fight two times since the last night I told did you know calling out for a title shot an agency you know I don't really I mean I can't fight so away why do that you know it's not oh I'm like yeah and how close you'd actually pulling out of that fight take my left arm was how did that happen initially two weeks before by hours yeah wow and you were feeling that in the fight itself right like was it was it very grateful percents significant strike accuracy highest among women's fighters and second highest overall behind the great alister over him and so of seconds here touch on us so that we don't hear that because I know that can be frustrating so an update there on her neck some stats on the number three ranked Straw contender according to the highly respected UFC rankings one of four fighters in the women's obviously pretty damn good company they're twenty to take downs landed fifth-most among women in the UFC sixty five point eight Mike couldn't even live or anything like that on his drilling and you know I told them you know like when when I'm ready I'll come back you know much of a complaint if you want to get that title shot on drudge seems like a bit of a long shot just because she didn't defend the title one successfully Asian to start her UFC career five or better Rosena Eunice. Excuse me Ronda Rousey check and Chris Cyborg are the other three but there is still the rose dumb UNICEF factor out there who looked very good in that fight against just contract and I'm trying to get in touch with her she was in Tampa you see that's why people are so high on her right now but unfortunately the neck injury or the neck issues continue to be a problem for her it seems I was just about to ask her about a timetable and then if you have to have surgery that obviously delays things even more than sound like she has we will get in touch with rose and get an update on her last week. We found out that she was inducted into the Lithuanian American Hall of fame so great honor their for Rosa Munis but ED issues might this perching smart refner make at three allowing but if those things of okay I'll let me ask corporate you need to reach enact we're hearing a bit of an echo when you speed Suarez Eighty five zero in the AFC she of course is coming off a win over answer off at UC to thirty eight back in June she he's a golden doodle golden do I have a burn doodle really yes doodle we already see we have we have a lot more in common right but I didn't because I had I had bought in so long so I decided to fight you know perhaps it does seem like all signs point two yuan being next and hard to argue that she is in fact the most famous strawweight right now in the world and then you think Tatyana we shouldn't be beefing so I wanted to get back to the neck the two okay so the try to reconnect now with Tatiana Suarez Tatyana now being joined by a friend who's that Oh what kind of dog is that right so bad so I couldn't do that I try to do you know shooting even doing like my bone marrow hurt so I had to stop that a little bit too with Jj Aldrich who pat bury her fiance corners and helps train trying to touch their hopefully sooner rather than later we will the secrets to finally show and I it was literally like they want him to fight off in October and I was like I they said if it's not like north Shot Nick should we reconnect with touching do you hear that to Donna or is it just me now okay corporate jake ric okay we're going to reconnect with you we're GONNA call you right back in what I get in trouble what is this the KGB the trouble is not two fights that you said that obviously you ready to return to which is obviously the right call you don't Wanna be fighting with that kind of injury could you tell us who they work we get a sense of what kind of matchups they were thinking for you everyday life I'm fine it just starts when I started leaking working out and stuff like that at some point you have a deadline you have to decide whether or not you'll music or fight when I got the for those were and is being discussed Keno we'll see but yeah I think you know they told me to come back within this month to see if it's cleared up of the excellent just so and I apologize if this is a dumb question but this has nothing to do with the cancer that you had back in the day right I'd let even I can't even swim oh well I know I really couldn't after it was like two weeks after I try to do like swim workout at midnight nerve and if not then we'll see some other routes but like roots and the we'll see what happens but I hope you know kind of any type of like he's okay so but it's me again recently for when just loss asked me to fight Jessica now like definitely kept fighting still I'm not even going live yet so even like he it said I had on from the time by Harlot to fight without any eighth and ninth leg unheard of the Ed's cleared up I mean I feel like it's definitely getting stronger like my left arm is getting back to normal I mean I just never know you know I you feel now we're only when you do something I mean hurts like in the morning obviously because you but like other than that no liquid been reactivated this badly in a long time like always like always aches not Russell too much it starts ache but it's never been like back in the day was nerves like this is kind of similar to what happened then but I wanted in a rush to get back then you know so that's why it took so long like took two years to get better it's like I gave it plenty of and then I gave it two years off and then I came back I was going to Russell again I started doing here and that's Kinda where Matt and they said it works for them but a lot of the athletes said they had it we're not like like grappler based Athletes Song Surgery route or not I'm nervous you know to do the surgery row I've talked to a couple athletes have had it so Yeah I mean I mean I just there's no a with the kind of injury so I I had seen noted that one than the yeah wow just for fun yeah for fun I do I do bone marrow where do you do it no that's how I found out I had cancer was I had a neck injury and that's how they diagnosed lung cancer so I've had this injury for a long time it just hasn't reading like regular mets hurts so now just hitting the noodles okay impact Mrs. Are Finding stuff so look so right now does it does it hurt nine but I'm just hoping it does not take two years to come back so okay yeah absolutely by the way you do born Arrow like archery on Instagram yes you do a great job you go back and forth the people the stories are very funny watching random old fights and things like that is it's good for your mind though I really like it it's something that's really peaceful any kind of like and stuff like that so you do a good job with that so in the meantime while you're not fighting inflammation and there is no timetable right like you have no idea when you might be able to return but by the way for people that don't follow titanic you might not think this one of the funniest follows on on instagram you're you're very you're very uh-huh what's that where do you live I live in a Tristate area let's just leave it at that a December a gal fighter but maybe like in December are no I said October because I didn't know like how bad my neck injury was in Hell I can imagine I've I've never done it before this actually archery field right next my house I see all these kids with the thing and the sound the buzzer thing and it seems really cool if not a little at least as of right now now I'm hoping like early next year okay that's the hope just like yeah first quarter of twenty twenty yes hoping but you never know you getting restless going it's gone you're listening to Jim now the gym but I don't know that's like I don't know Canada I don't go to Canada enough you do live far away from Canada Sousse to that because then I would be except for everybody so but you know now that given like I've given it time to heal in your mind I like you know bass pro shop has like archery range and stuff like that go there or mountains and do that Mike Davis taking a fight on four days notice and knocking out Thomas Gifford what are performance out of the guy they call beast boy in fact on Wednesday night I did a facebook live chat differences here this afternoon we didn't we never had differences I know that's why I'm happy all right thank you where she is whence universe cooled down like I mean it hurts but it's not like it's not numb you know but then like as soon as I shot I shot I like a kind of slower than I felt like I literally told the guy had asked him you know like the asked me about water Senate maybe fighter a like I said I think office live so I was like maybe if I give it a couple months it'll be fine and I came back and he wasn't able to so like good thing I didn't like committed but I certainly understand what you're talking about I wish you the best I hope you get well soon thank you very much for the for the day and it's good to have you back and I'm happy that we settled there is and there is Mike Davis how are you sir congratulations was that in fact you were you the guy I believe I said if you win you'll be on the show and he won and here he is Mike Davis joining us via the match skype there's this tweet on the ESPN MMA facebook page and I've been doing this more and more Acuna with the people and Mike Davis rallies I thought maybe was someone pretending to be Mike Davis actually how long it would take like you know what I mean I didn't know 'cause it's hard to gauge when you're in camp like you're not giving you the rest so of course it's going to hurt really bad give it any rest once I heard they fill the weakness like even during like because I do yoga as all the league even like if I'm doing like a regular pose like this arms like down here is up here I'm like okay this is like China the must've been a nightmare right yeah that was a nightmare especially because I heard I read so it's because it's a nerve thing like in the comments section me and my coach who's next to me too and I was just commenting on my phone man that was on Wednesday you're taking this fight on on but in there and was conversating if you will drop in comments I do I do think we have some evidence of this right here why do people keep asking my thoughts all my coach London they might be shot cryer through fight pieces that was bad idea now that definitely on Mike Davis Thomas Clifford solid fight so if I I mean guys taking on five days notice so a lot of Davis is this the actual Mike Davis asking breeding your birthday and someone calls you and says do you WanNa fight and four days yeah so the whole weekend was just bingeing with my family and and a couple of my friends okay jarred me a little bit and so it reaggravated select the entire fight like my arm was my faces now it's a little I think it's like really scary because you just don't know what's going me to come on the show the guy who's fighting on Saturday if so there was there was a back into that he was he was blowing me up and on there you don't know what could mess it up or you know it's it's just kind of a scary thing to have to worry about during your Pfizer armor barring and a shot is the law and a silence extra warmth and just myself kind then training on it I know like my what I do this it hurts when I hit hard hurts you know so I have to be really careful not reaggravated because the last thing I do is and I said yeah I mean I feel good enough I was getting ready for Copenhagen two weeks prior and I felt great so I took it and I understand you had to pull out of the replacing brock weaver in this my understanding is you got the call on Monday and that was your birthday correct yes birthday so what happened are you outside because of a staph infection right how's the staff feeling now is gone okay how bad was it closed he'll was a bad that's really happy for him okay well what usually at one sixty five when sixty okay so you're eating a lot of food cakes and whatnot and did you think twice or you said Tana's wars still top contender in the one fifteen pound division hoping that she has a speedy recovery and get back in there soon okay one of the other great stories from this past weekend repeat talk to him about it for a little bit than aid called me and he was like Mike I think you can do this I didn't feel you WanNa do it the healing process all over again right well and I can't imagine the pain that you're in I mean you're talking about the pain now I can manage pay that you were in in that fight against the answer off in June now I can put them on blast right here but it's okay so you take the fight and how the way cut simple simple First Day Tuesday I cut nine pounds Bam Bam went to bed woke up the next day at one sixty one and kept going from there room I was cut open given antibiotics on him for three and a half weeks did you have to stay at the hospital okay I gotTa take this fight I thought about it I immediately thought about how my cardio and feel and sometimes I panic going to five because I know that it's so easy that I don't really give it the attention it deserves so I'll start too late ready you deserve for this feed and the victory and the finish in particular was beautiful because the referees getting a lot of blame for letting it go let along his corners getting so now I'm Kinda cautious on definitely shower few drain goddess our future that's right yeah do you know who the culprit was like who gave it to you don't okay is that wasn't in the whole right side of my body I lost function of my right arm I had to go to emergency oh okay it all in one session to go back though to get repack it took three weeks I infection ever okay take notice so like you probably have to cut a little bit what were you doing on my stupid facebook chat that was when I first got to the hotel so I was kind of just is my manager I was on a nonstop from bage and I got this call I was like Oh and letter that fifty I state like New York New Jersey Connecticut is tristate area took like because I know that there's a Tri Star or whatever Oh Tristar yeah that's Jim in Montreal yeah I just got to put a brace on and I and after the fight you know so I hear you I've never experienced now you don't have too many years do this in the first place right stay young stay healthy not hurt anybody I'm literally here to have fun I love I do think that it is controversial was going on right now that whole situation in the first round he was rocked he's rock bad against no problems I felt like a little blockage in a second round but only the second round and after the second round was over I feel normal now do you feel like you're not getting the uh-huh so so how how much when you got the call one seventy three one seventy three and it was at fifty five one of them knocking down what's up with this ref though like what are you thinking in this finally what what do I have to do to to to finish this guy come on yeah I blamed for letting him go out into the third round you feel like people are focusing too much on that and not on what you did taking the fight on short notice looking the way in which you did the finish itself what do you think perfect yeah and so that must've felt great and for you you know coming off a loss I remember when you went into contenders series there was a lot of hype beaming hundred percent exactly what I was thinking like it was unnecessary right all that damage nobody needs to take that much damage in this leg because it affects your longevity this a and then you said that one of the concerns was your cardio obviously wanted to fight it went a little you know it went almost distance you've got him in the third round how was the cardio though is good was telling me you're the next John Jones he's never seen a fee like you before you got matched up with a really tough guy and CDC Yousef do you feel like you haven't quite shown us with the second round I was focused on finishing in a third round I was like all right I'm just going to stick and move and take the decision gauge the point where I grabbed him by the head and just hold him down to the ground there is no resistance at all so I tried to get on top and throw a couple of punches just finished fight actually reminded me of the Zeke city fight just on the opposite end I was I was the aggressor same thing adair but I guess the ref didn't think that was enough in let it keep going second round I just kept pushing the pace a little bit China wear them out so you get tired and what you have or maybe this is the beginning of that this is the first time we've seen the true boy in there was just the beginning of this on scene what I'm capable of doing that if it's short notice fifty five if I can have re weeks I'll do forty five okay and because I don't hit much the fighting it's just something I found I was good at is it uncomfortable for you like are you thinking of this are thinking those thoughts in the midst of the fight or you just so focused on just finishing the guy and getting it over all the way to cut it's crazy yeah wasn't and so what's better for you one fifty five or one forty five escon drudge those are the four candidates if you will we'll put it up on the page and then at the end of the day we shall update the results last week a lot away from that city I am I'm putting it all into my game today I honestly feel like a new fighter well amazingly on four days notice and sixty five I is a twenty pound cut and I can do it in about three or four days okay and I heard the crazy story oh really wow I mean that finishing sequence right there the Combo was phenomenal that was like pimp Legua sniper so one too yeah fall but he didn't that imus tough the third round us in my head I was a kid is taking a beating so I'm Gonna I'm GonNa pull back a little bit I or I won't even try to cut properly this one is four days notice I need I need to get back into that win column I think seriously in I was I just kept doing that and I was just like him hit him and you can tell that he was breaking from the punches and he show I not expecting the fall I thought it was GonNa win by decision you and your friends like you you Kinda grew up in a tough neighborhood and you and your friends had a plan where you guys are GonNa go check out this enemy Jim but everyone bailed at the last minute in mentioning my name so I was like yeah I would love to get on that show I I see you doing everybody's like let me get on okay and here you are so so let's talk about you getting this call because you ended up own outfits taking it all in a relaxing and I saw you were on so I clicked on the espn fly that you had going on and I was just checking it out man saw right and you're the only one that went to actually go train at the gym they all got in trouble what happened what happened on this this night that really kind of change your life forever story that's my change that's my life stop bullying and started throwing a hard jab is over and over hard jab new are still kept fighting so I started a little power behind him thirty okay there is a night where me and the small group of people that I hung out with the only group in school that wouldn't pick on me or or be mean to me the we're supposed to go check out a gym in the neighboring city and they decided to do Stevia which are Nasty Fort Lauderdale Down Coconut Creek at the moment right well it's an amazing story my man and I'm really happy for your success and I'm happy that you upstate New York I'm from Casco Okay Yeah now of course you're living training in Florida correct yes a drink so I went to the gym I fell in love with what I was doing they ended up getting involved in armed robbery and holding someone hostage jail some of which who just now got out after this ten years ago though no you're an inspiration to a Lotta people and it didn't start off the way you wanted to on that contender series fight against Yousef but you seem to be on the right track now and I'm looking forward to seeing what you're doing did your father pass away he was sticking up for someone at a bar and beat up these this group again I'm so sorry how old were you when that happened I was about two and a half okay so I'm I'm assuming you don't have many memories of him only one or two okay and now you've been able to turn and this was in New York correct yes and I know for a fact that if I would stay home and hung out with them that I would have most likely been involved in some way in that I would have driven a car life now that's incredible do you still keep in contact with those guys one one okay do you think the rest no what you've become that you're fighting in the around there's only one person that I believe was honest and true God as a friend and even to them in that situation so join the live chat last week and on the radio and then you've got this opportunity on your birthday no less I'm wishing the best I know there's a lot of people who are rooting for you in that. NFC THEY DO they they're out they see me they've messaged me but due to the fact of the things I've heard in the court situations and things that were passed that give myself `I hyperactive I still have adhd I just want to control it I'm all over the place and then he's all over the place so and now I'm doing so well that I can help my family what I have left and is super important to me this is an as my we were just trying to figure out what to do and Amman had to work three jobs just so we could afford to do something even go to school his name's Jordan and I still talk to him he still comes and visits me actually got out early like three years when I was about eight would've been nearby and it would ruin my life while and they is the one thing here that took me out of that side of my life and put me on the right track nations on the fight my man happy birthday to and again looking forward to what's next in a pleasure yes our pleasure there he is Mike Davis remember that name what a great story L. and then my little brother came along and then his father vanished so just meeting chance with my mom so we would always have babysitters I was Orien- believable stuff big win for him on Saturday another great story happened on Friday in Las Vegas PF L. had the first installment of their playoffs and thing or what you will do in the UFC from here on out I'm ready to show the world I have been trained to do I took in my father's life so I feel like I'm living for two people and I want to be able to achieve enough that two people can be satisfied from it so with that this is and you had you had to help raise your siblings right your your father passed away when you were young yes had he just my mom and me getting everyone I'm here to stay not going anywhere now climbed that ladder until I have gold around my waist world done Mike Davis beast boy congratulate I think is a kid I guess not kids adults and they left but they came back with knives and stabbing to death and let them Industry today and wearing the same clothes in is not a big deal but I wanted to do something for my mom she does so much for us need to get back David Michaud made it to the finals he'll be facing off against Ray Cooper former UFC fighter but the season back in May I was actually French accent Michaud because it is a French last name is it not yeah my Dad's my dad's family's ranch it's funny because well I like saying your name that way but yes Mashad and congratulations by the way on a great victory not only a great victory a couple at this fight couldn't have turned out worse for him he lost seventeen seconds since then he has bounced back three in row one on Friday and like I said punched his ticket to the finals fascinating story in his own right let's say hello now to David Michaud who joins US via the magic escape David how're you how you down is it okay if I say your name with that he's French Canadians thinkers or they may show and I'm like well I guess when when infringe yes speaking we shows oh guys that probably weren't really trading so it was it was different by two guys that are you know victories I should say but turned things around from the beginning of the season till now when you've got knocked out by seventeen second by side of what what did you body had have you ever done anything like that before well ahead thought twice before but a long time ago like just against amateur guys Donald Myself at all I was ready to get back on it and so as you just alluded to you at the fight twice on Friday you want both those fights obviously and that got you to the finals what was that like Oh yeah but they all thought I was ready to even would come up and speak to me Regio Mike Dumb American I only got one leg would sorry so he ended up having like an hour extra break between fight yet next hour for about an hour fifteen he had about two and a half hours rest Dr Rifaat in Montreal I thought Obama and we always say Mashhad said Michelle jobs and I go up there and all the I got this I'm not worried we're GONNA win the next flight we've been went to play offs and we're GonNa win the championship so I would I didn't doubt myself I live in the though that played into a little bit but the way I looked at it was just when when I saw how the schedule was where the word and I was the last quarterfinal he's the disaster I know the the format lends itself to getting back on track but that was a pretty quick fight in pretty devastating stuff yeah you know no one I want to go out there and get finished let alone get finished in seventeen seconds I was like a press conference I was blois man on the totem pole left that up to turn it around so it was it was hard but even you know right as soon as it was over we're sitting in the back talking to my coaches my corner on Mike I had at least points had the fastest finished fastest giving finished so I knew going into that next play like I had to do you have a fear of flying is that accurate yeah drove from Phoenix to New York for fight may grow from Phoenix to New Jersey how people fight twice on the same night but here's what I guess is so fascinating to me about you which I don't think a lot of people know about you don't fly right the hasn't done anything like that where it's actually to do burgess guild talented guys and I two five after Franca Arthur gyms and then next week victor hit the North Way I think we even have corporate jake then I felt like I was ahead in the second little bit towards the end so I kind of pulled back not too little break towards the end of the second but I don't know it was tough I mean I I know it was going to be tough it was all everyone everyone had tell flights bronco he kinda got cracked few his first light he liked thirty five thirty thirty six hours maybe thirty five hours a day kind of go across go straight across men I know some guys out there train out the certified finishes certified killers John Howard's out they turned people's blocks off Franca he's big guy he gets on top people get them off the fight in all of July finished vegas is easy everyone everyone from the lab just mostly drive vegas that's easy I always light said you know they did that just could be on TV twice that's all I began to twice so I look at things but yeah it was tough man whipped up a little map this is the map right over here of your travels I mean this is unbelievable stuff you're like John Madden what why why do you why do you do where does this after the flight China the first way trying to conserve well winning because things with if you don't win tough man between rounds try not to like get a break with not play yourself get too cold not claire self get stiff and I was used got hit a couple of times tell yeah it was it was not Ma'am I can imagine that's why it's not a very common thing in the sporting more to it's working out pretty well so far yeah and did you ever like when you said that you went on a family vacation have you ever been on on a flight or did you did you remove aw how how long is that trip from Phoenix to New York What is the I think if you went straight through if you just have a beeline with all the PFLP toward bags that'd be nothing but I'm going to be driving Phoenix to New York City for December thirty years normally leave a couple of weeks early gamma manager seeing who where I would go next you know like has good wins but like I was in a good spot and PF L. Opportunity came and we said you know they're all of America can hit all of I could drive everywhere this is this'll be best for me and Nope I wouldn't be able to train for weeks when you have a panic attack like it takes it added new for for days like two three days after you still feel Austin it's it's more exhausting than those two fights were auditing after I have my panic attacks just he can't do anything like found ways around it after slash lot in February that was part of it February in Phoenix at the airport may they talk about air you go in and its former pilots he talks and then they take you on a plane and even just getting on a plane stem from I always kind of had a fear of flying lake since high school he tried to fly on vacation one time the player above your shoulder over there oh that'd be that's my sister she's well that's an older photo she's She's again rivers restaurant and I was having panic attacks weeks out like three four weeks out before I even had to get on the plane looks like it's not even green crabs remembers second round there grinding against the fan sales driving lead my next star crapping was weird so but the continental United States so yes statement nice little cruise across the country and beat people up and by the way who's the young lady the connects with anyway you don't get that next paycheck I like no matter what you gotTa Win GotTa win go to it and the second hour I felt like I had one the first round big and cramping cramping before I let my back was cramping in the fight hamstring cramp on top and half guard I was going to pass that wasn't going anywhere that was tough but yes like where I'm at now before good all in had a panic attack and then when I was wrestling in college I heard talent I coached about it let's try let's try all argue shot you know we'll trade yourself before the plane actually took off no I didn't even I wasn't even able to get on the plane there were I was for for a long time taking some fear of flying just you just would much prefer you're more comfortable doing it I mean I guess it'd be it'd be a lot easier if I could fly yes but at this point that was like a thirty four hour drive 'cause Miami's Pretty Marcel though yeah drove from Phoenix Miami like it's just it is per day of you know people like woodrow you up we'll give you some stuff will put you under what it's not even that I have panic attacks just even thinking about having to do it so like it's been so long even Montreal I drove from Phoenix Montreal I fought in Miami Florida for Titan. FC Diego Lebron I think she's in the National Guard And Right now I'm at my at my mom's house I came back South Dakota droll wars went from Las Vegas win that million dollars well I mean I don't I don't have a lot of one ear how many profiles we're talking we're talking my math is correct twenty three pro fights I believe do you think that you have made a combined million dollars this far no not even not even close now dromey had what three UFC fights our blue oversleep whoever's drive with me but now by the mates money this past weekend Made some money in July what would happen to your life if you got that million dollars one more have you allowed yourself to think about what life would be like it's GonNa be too many more problems just less less worried to me because I don't plan on buying anything new anything big just buy a house and what it is you know I'm not too worried about it anymore I don't even it's not even like a question anymore just if I play we yeah there's no there's no way there's no way it was even close to that this weekend and make some money to make more money off these two fights this weekend that I had next morning INC drove over Phoenix got my dog's got some stuff bone came up South Dakota Snow Pineridge and you don't mind the driving like you don't get bored a million dollars on December thirty first this is what the format does it lends itself to these these stories and train all in Tennessee year North Carolina with my buddies Scott Holtzman and Brian Block. It's good chain melt there and then finished who fights this past week I saw before we got to. You're still icing your face so I'm sure you're a little banged up a little tired today on this Monday afternoon but I'm sure you're very happy had out of all my enemy fights not counting the sponsors that have been able to get him so have you have you allowed yourself to think about how things went and getting ready for that that cross country drive once again back in in December two to New York City so thank you for doing this David all the best to you on December thirty be the same guys from the last two seasons because it feels a little stale they gotta figure things out and the elephant in the room I mean ugly situation on works what's going to happen you need to get one of those big RV's like John Madden or see and punk had back in the day like making a lot of money I looking forward to it watching it on ESPN two of course awesome thank area nice chatting with you absolutely there is David Michelle absolutely embarrassing you can be focused on the on the actions inside the cage you can't be just dismissing altercations think that needs to look at their situation for next season I think that they have to look at the roster needs to bring in some new faces as you know I I I enjoy my life I like I live right now it's got an apartment go my girlfriend got my dogs I don't is not helping their their their status in the sport and they're doing things from what I understand to try to distance themselves from the their previous regime the WF regime but they need to figure this out because it might be too late I think if they don't figure it out sooner rather than later in an ironic by the way on three days yeah can pull it away and start saving open after that million that will start talking about from cool do you think you have made in your entire career there's this whole big media day where you wonder if there's going to be some sort of announcement the dominant Tim Media Day it turns out that it's just one big love fest ego trip just fine you could talk to the media can do it every three days later you know we're getting into physical altercations got to figure this out can have this and can't react the way in which the that are happening out in the open embarrassing figure it out clean it up do better be better and once and for all address these issues he did the subsequent statements by the NFL and members of their team matchmakers executives were embarrassing doc moment there great stuff there congratulations to him and the playoffs resume this Thursday all right let's move along now and say hello to our next guest the thing I'm in favor I want more opportunities I want Morgan is Asians but at some point enough is enough let's be better anyway it's my little Friday involving two managers Abraham Cowan Elliott bill a subsequent story by a great young reporter named Michael Dell they need to address this situation this is not helping them the wwe they've finally announced it brock Listener Cain Velasquez to in Saudi Arabia October thirty first happening in a matter of days we had Canaan Studios had eight K. David Michaud one of the stories that has developed here this season for PF l. and this is what we saw last year with Lewis Taylor when he the when you were sitting in my studio was this already a done deal where UK fading me as they say in the pro wrestling community did you already know that this was going to happen we're going to debut on smackdown show in my thing I think my thing is like cutting in and out big yeah we're good core project all right big story on Friday because the sport is a great sport that is that is giving itself opportunities to people like David shod getting chances to do great things it's National Guard right now she will look like that she breaking out to yeah as this younger over thirty I in Saudi Arabia Alto Cain Velasquez are you there I'm here I'm here how're you doing I'm doing great congratulations how did this happen so quickly looking forward to it that was always my my ultimate goal this all came down really bad from from brock acting the way that he title after a million little talk about the RV but before yeah it was it was a question like it'd be nice you know I could just drive for twelve months and let me ask you how how how did negotiations go was this a quick thing they they reached out to you because sometimes these things are long and drawn out and we know that you had to deal with AAA how were they no no I didn't know but for me it was something that I wanted to do you know there was people say more money more problems but I don't think most people have ever been people that I know so we'll see I don't what happened with AAA AAA so I'm still GONNA be able to compete in one of their shows is El Toro now he's a member of world wrestling entertainment just like that appeared on the first smackdown on Fox and he's going against brock listener in a matter of days it does in going in and just physically attacking rain the Stereo and dominate is son What I did in the first match and so to be clear you have signed a multi year deal with WB it's an exclusive deal right you're only competing for them you're the ballot or Friday had it made like thirty five hundred laundry card that didn't pay anything they see the bright for the company amazing why can't Alaska's Dora Dora and yes I'm only competing in the WB part of the WWE Universe in again get my hands on them all these banned Yeah Cave Alaska's saving me right now this is amazing stuff now let me ask you on that so it's just to me it's a great opportunity to come in and be part of the W. W. Roster did you talk to anyone else a w any other promotions yeah of course I did have somewhere nice to stay that's about it the simple things in life well this is a great story and I wish you the best thing I wanna wish you again a congratulations on winning the just thinking he just beat people up wherever you can like hell no man I of like this is that I wanted I cannot wait triple A.'s choosing so so yeah you know like they don't have one more modification triple eight and they you know the game degree yes that is accurate and why did you have to announce your retirement so and so let me ask you you have officially because I thought we just put up the statement that you put out on social media you have officially retired from mixed martial arts in the US's that accurate couple weeks ago in case you forgot this is what he said when I asked him about his wrestling future this is the one that you are he's not the exact war but this is as you know like probably less than a week we got all ironed out in it yeah you know here we are I'm excited just can't wait for this opportunity I'm not gonna be I'll never say never as far as well as the back to innovate like I love her Bay I love the Salvia which like a synthetic marijuana and they got high and stayed home and drank that night I went to the gym I don't like to smoke it who to have this rematch again with the Broccoli or for me to dream match so I cannot wait to get in there you know especially and you know that goes back to my high school days with my going on right now with with what he's done in the past and you know I wanna go in there and make an example out of him uh ultimately just to go in there and brock you know go in there and mess them up and a lot of emotions so having that that close tie with triple A. and talking to them but to me you know w w made them all sense and Mir perspective oh great it was great yeah you know just give it a go she you know it was about a couple of in that role to treat this Monday night raw from and from that man just had it you know like him Bronco it in awesome that's been a lifelong dream by So happy to do this obviously there's something that I wanted to get into the WB It'd be just the pinnacle of pro wrestling so something that I was always coach John Rustad my brother Velazquez who kinda showed me the ropes and got me into interesting I maps you do with the honors wear wow this is legit this what an honor this is the day before our wedding we can't see you so that that is awesome you know that you just gave me to give light to go ahead and compete one of their shows for so many years and you know obviously there's a lot of people say you know a lot of people intimated things when I first got into the sports they cannot just go around and just be people around and people tell them apple downloading and on stage you know just WanNa thank all my all my coaches and all my teenage bears other states that that push going to fight him you know how they were my team was the only one team winning the support you need of this mode of voted for fighting You know I love to compete I love to go out before I love to fire up to wrestle so these are all things that bad I've always been low just something that that I've always just get in me and things that I love doing so glad that I get to do it and go to limitation chamber that's where it all started you know just being in the moment having fun the UFC brass try to convince you to stay when when you inform them of your retirement like did you speak to anyone or was it your management spoke to them and if you did speak to them did anyone try to convince you when you step back until like wow I'm already in wwe in like two months oh yeah it is crazy no it definitely is but it's just it's just you know mediums just about taking a shot at it you know like I recognising that that passion for wrestling Yes yes I would have yeah you know it's crazy how how it all works out but I can't wait for this opportunity this is for me is just a lifelong dream coming true is it a little surreal that it's all happening so soon I mean if you didn't realize that you had this gift to be a great professional wrestler do you think you would have stayed longer and the UFC and continued your MMA career I definitely would have rematch with AAA now here you are in wwe on the smackdown show you've got your match with brock it just seems like everything has been like supercharge and this is all happening so fast is it a little crazy in your debut happens somewhat soon you look phenomenal and then the second match is even better than the first and even like you were in the studio a month ago and you were getting ready for the second but you still have the third the leading fighting but hey I got to do what I love this sport if everybody if you didn't have this opportunity if you didn't find this can I even do this and we know little baby steps and it's been crazy right but I'm taxi stay in the AFC I talked to Dana right away he he called me up and then he was throughout this career tissue onto like degrade things to me you know I'm I'm happy but I'm sad as well get like this kind of help each other to to help promote each other you know came into the ANC you know over to Ha You know first meeting Javier Mendez who in the guy behind the my host fighting career the most go those feelings of you know I started intimate and same thing you know I'm learning something new beat a student of the sport talk thinking Dander call me all my teammates there was kind of you know my my brothers have helped me hey man this is what I'm here to do you know what I mean like it's crazy when I'm here doing I'm I'm loving it I'm having fun amazing charts the most amazing person that one of the most amazing guys that I've ever known in and also you know Dan that's what I've always done it just Kinda you know it's more just doing what I love to do I think I think that's what the most important thing is what about anything else but this just looking at the match and just be the kid again that kind of started at all for me and then from then on it was like okay go in Anaheim it's great resume is perfect wrestlemainia but it's happening like I said October thirty first in Saudi Arabia why is it happening so soon initially when I saw the debut and I thought all right this is going to be great wrestlemainia rematch you got caned brock you got whatever happened back in almost ten years it all comes down to what happened between Rock Ramos Stereo and Dominic Your Stereo what's far as like UC or working with the AFC that's ever GonNa add like there's a lot of great things you can do back and forth One of those easy schedules where he just shows up like once every two months are you going to be like Rhonda where you're at House shows and every week on smackdown or do you have one of those you know those superstar it's not a lot positive man he was like you know go ahead and do this this awesome I wish you the best and yes and I was like what the Hell's going on I couldn't believe it you know like he messing with media like hell so I got really heated I just can't wait to go in there and be his ass but what he's done so this is I mean it's also fast because of because of Brock's actions maybe into this you know the person that I am today is being a UFC fighters so grateful for that and into them rex really have to show up to the big events as of right now I really just focusing on getting better you know knowing knowing the sport in and out fake they just for the AFC general to you know thousand platform myself L. DO whatever I can to go in and just obviously they gave always get better get more comfortable so that's on our as ray down on the ring and you know doc is just recently just Kinda hurt him there and then I saw vaca- to practice right just getting shopping the tools with my AK brothers you know constantly just getting better so so we focused on hymns practicing stuff so that I can that I could do in our in our match I'm jiving you know that kind of pushed me to go into the fighting and up you know after much in the air of wrestling with this I knew what I wanted to do and then I got it her you know I'm GonNa so this week I'm GONNA go out to Orlando Performance Center Orlando Right Yeah so somebody do with it in a vast do it doing more matches than than it's all good but I never looking past my my opponent and that's that's brock left and right now you know Austin but you know doing kind of a Stone Cold Steve Austin back brace I like it the attack them on Monday night raw you know just got him out of the out of the standard started messing him up and all this all this is going on you know train everywhere I'm GONNA train with Ramos Stereo this week you know hasn't coached me a little bit all you have to go to Tampa to train at their their performance center you just GonNa continue to train in San Jose I'm GonNa do a little bit of both I wanNa Kinda go everywhere the Dana White who got me my first white in the AFC and I have to go it is so big thanks to him a big thanks to the Cheetah's Dominic he's a guy who's been learning wrestling here and there but he's very young as well and and drop Ma'am Okay and just getting better all around in this for that's that's my goal and Yeah I mean I'm down to do whatever match do sorry I'm wondering about that you know with the brace it's all good I'm sure without a it'd be good as well just for aw lesson band and I'm going to do it Viva Lhasa that's right now by the way speaking of Brock he has yeah man I this is going to be an hour axo advocate myself ready and what about the need 'cause I saw you were wearing the brace when you made your debut are you still going to have to have okay good well I much that's how no no I won't why not I'm already have a great match I have a great fight and to entertain the people that are watching all right well said Cain I wish you the best this is crazy just ready for her for anything right I'm very into the sport as well coming in but man I'm I'm ready to learn and what about the mask are we going to compete with the mass so who knows down the road if I get another fight I think it's very possible because it's just something yeah man it's something that I love you know Nair to have my mashes rock I'm there to being in a fight with him and that's it you know it doesn't matter where where it is work okay so we are we are embarking on a new journey a new chapter for Cain Velasquez this is WWe October thirty first in Saudi maybe of all places Kane versus brock to unbelievable how do you feel about going to Saudi Arabia are you okay with that Cain man China in a wrestling ring it's an unbelievable thing but a testament to your hard work and skill and we're all rooting for you hopefully you'll you'll you'll find the same kind of success the story I did not expect this at the at the beginning of the year that Cain Velasquez would being WBZ and that we'd see Kane versus brought to this soon Toro's dead that's it was not bad story dormant right now okay the time is right and you know how you know how retirements in combat sports and anime go people were tired of the time and then they come back do you think deep down you'll have another fight would you be at DC tacky and then we could have like a enmities managers well yes yes my dream oh comfortable and and best as I can be you know for for this match Beclau- writing on this oh so as to be in you know the best shape out to be just checking in with with dominic as well see how he's doing but but yeah I imagine it's again just trying to as a smell and even boxing you're mistaken because enemies roots will forever be in pro wrestling and here's another example that all right so that's a great story now it's talking about another great story a project speaking so ten through six here you go ten Ricardo Ramos Nine James Gallaher eight Sonia Don off line to then then he beat right yes maybe put your your your way out tempo that would change things up a little bit okay but now we we all becoming after that song but you know they aren't on the road who knows key one that we posted on ESPN DOT com this morning we counted down the top twenty five fighters in mixed martial arts right now under the age of Twenty Ah so so down the road who knows will you come out to the song that I I don't know the name of top of my head but I love it and then then then men all right I'll go I'll go wherever you go I'll be your guy no problem bro thank you all right thank you good luck to their he has cain Velasquez the news member of world enertainment also on that card by the way Tyson fury going up against Bronze Stroman unbelievable if you if you thought that the World Presley had nothing to do with Emma May as your last fight was the one against Francis Gano again like I like I said before I'll never say never man so seven Jimmy kroute six the aforementioned macy barber so that's ten through six do we have five through okay Kabibi please say yes with the masking Davey now I'm Gonna I'm GonNa go in and compete as myself okay so I love train to compete I love going to practice and learning always learning in perfecting the craft and the and the getting this deal it's an amazing thing area thank you so much to you you've been there I would say along the way as well hey matter and I'm I'm glad you know I'm glad there's people like you that are out there are there are helping fighters and and wrestlers out there and five why did we come out with this week while macy barber who's someone who's talked about being you know the youngest champion in UFC history she competes on Friday against Julian Robertson both of those alley where have you gone hopefully coming back soon you could see the tireless over at ESPN DOT com slash may but number one number one is the undefeated fifteen nope tied for four Aspen ladd and Nasrat hotpot Assad three Edmund Shabazz Ian. To should've Sean such a long journey at the same time it's pretty crazy did you even know that you are at the top of this list honestly no I I kinda just I'm looking one step closer to the mini accomplishments and achievements that I have that I'm looking forward to to accomplish in you know it's it's been such a short journey Ford to win this million dollar tournament and and really going at it you know showing the world what I'm capable of doing I kind of played last few years of my career I mean I think we can all just say the mindset of a twenty one year old kid coming out of college partying and just live life versus okay the what's your mind is capable of doing in getting the job done and man I'm starting to figured some things out starting to see footwork read footwork there's there's a whole another side of this game knocked out Macapa I'd I'd bet my Cogan is AP watch a Yo bet the single impasse first round and sure enough sixty nine second send it was over with so I it's just in that Jonah in that in that form of entertainment that you found in MMA we'll miss you over here but I know you won't be too far away all the best to you my man keep it up and again congratulations on now it's just amazing what you do as well thank you so much I appreciate and get DC to to join you over there he's almost done all right I want to see a DC CAIN tag team. Israel's are on that list Angelie just fought this past week and crucially I believe we have the top ten and we have the top ten years ten thirty six here's ten through six that's fina fighting for Bell Tower that man right over there Aj McKee number one how does it feel my friend I literally asked me to stop training now like I literally in the gym all day all day all day like I'm I'm literally Jim Right now from here I'm going to go to metro flex go to other Jim so just sitting down and and really grinding you know really putting in one hundred ten percent it's phenomenal to see what I'm doing I told my dad before the record was and you were trying to break it yeah that I have it on record and every day ever recorded at a much I told my dad like this is it it's funny when there are a lot of people don't see and starting to figure it out and it's showing now what do you mean when you say the last couple of years you were playing and now you're taking things a little more well what do you mean by that fight in like an hour and a half what's going through your mind during that stretch it was surreal if he lost it showed me hey you corner being over the age yes I corner them a couple times when I was younger do some cage work it's it's like a drug man you just you gotta live eat live eat breathe it in sleep it you know you're GonNa make it your lifestyle if you you expect to be the best it's crazy you know him being forty nine years old m near fifty and he still trains with us every day it's it's phenomenal he is he's a one of a kind person other son fighting on the same card and you're in his corner for that fight what were the emotions what were the thoughts going through your mind as as your corner not only are you corning your dad but you're about the so you know and and just going and getting the job done wow so you're actually so you're last fight you ended in eight seconds knocked out Georgie Caffeine you're actually gunning for the record you want something for him to shoot for because his his brother's doing so well do you WanNa see your dad continue to fight or you good now the best now the last was super special because not only did you get that ticket knockout but your dad of course the Great Antonio Mckee fight on the undercard both of you one very special to have it came to visit me at the energy just in that arena at the form was surreal man I had been there for me everyone with me so I knew people don't like people don't realize what he does on the ground his Jujitsu is actually pretty good but his standup even better he reads movement really well and coaching he'll let you do what you do and then add to it instead of trying to teach his way and that's hard to come by nowadays man that that's literally this is what I need to do this is my job this is working out three times a day putting in extra put above and beyond you know so my dad only like fifteen sixteen but that wasn't a different you know being older really seeing what the sports about and how people can get hurt it's does you know his his coaching ability hands on grappling ability as never met anyone with the knowledge in the sport that he has a lot of got a job to do and I I I said I wanted to start the tournament off with a loud statement and what better way to start it off with eight eight second knockout was was that the first time you ever in your dad's the smartest way to he found the smartest way to take care of his body and be safe and for him hey that's why he's forty nine years anyone just athlete so he's just a loving person you know anyone that knows my daddy's a straight shooter some people don't like him because he's too much of a straight coaching that's literally helping people evolve and that that's just what life's about you know helping people involved you're much different than he was like at times he was criticized as oh the people there just ordinary basic fighters one-two-three Jab cross hooks so he's kind of switch the game up you know he takes his ask files like y'all I'm going to get boats or SAS knockout in the second short but it's just speaking what you wanted to fruition on you have your team your family and God you know I think this is a substantial amount money so let's let's continue to take it serious and go full force into it and and use us both of our decisions and grind you out you're going in there and start seeing guys in eight seconds was that a conscious decision on your part like I don't want to be anything you don't fight like your dad you're not the same Dan will you after I'll think that's it but Yes yes yes singer for me let's Go Yep L. nighties a company's DC and Kane as they go through the entire w tag team division Oh would it be a dream Okay I'm in whatever you need definitely you know he still wants to go fight I think he's got a couple more with this million dollar tournament being great now maybe after the tournament have a job to go do if he won it just set the tempo and he went out there and finished the guy manage set the tempo so right when we got in the back man I had ot in the back suitor and that's that's just POPs there's little brother Mason hey what's up bro yeah that's the future future man he's already pulling jokes view and this is how it all has evolved well I had to learn something at a young age this is entertainment as much as a sport this is entertainment doing it and I can't wait people just stick around and enjoy the show you wrote yourself a million dollar cheque when you were twelve why yeah appeared than Delatour and I think one day I'll show that that's that's not the case that the fighter makes the organization and it's about it's about the skill later to apple couldn't have fallen far from the tree in this particular regard and that's knocking your dad you just have different style your flashier you're a bit of a showman was that a conscious decision or is that of course there is no other choice I mean it kind of caught me by surprise honestly I wasn't expecting it just because I know how some people think UFC is morrison you want and they give me what I want so it's just keeping the fans happy and always interacting with whom and given back you know so we did this top twenty five list and there's a lot of U. of C. and he can still compete at his age I'm sure if he was making the money I was making he would he would go fighting a little different for me I have the wrestling Russian and I just wanted to go in there and be comfortable and pick but then I've always remember like number one my lucky number men and it's like you're the one you know I know that one a lot of these guys you know I told him I smell fear on them I'm looking forward to going in there and making examples man eight seconds sixty nine seconds I'm looking for successful honestly I was nervous at first I was shitting bricks why because I wanted like pick number four you know I wanted to the bracket would be yes definitely hands down off fights been finished out of my ten finishes seven or eight and and when I drew number one I said fuck it let's have some fun you know let let's see who wants to this fight and when I picked their compostable he picked me I already knew he when he finish every every round of the tournament I'm I'm really looking to just make loud statements no one's even seen my groundwork I don't even have a belt Jitsu but I guarantee amazing what a story that you gotta you gotTa check with you when you fight for the million dollars it's common that's why I picked out opposite side of the bracket the day when my dad hoisting all these guys were fighting there fighting for fifty dollars they're finding wrestling choosing e so for him with his wrestling back he wants segments he found is on this list there's a lot of famous people unless but your number one and this was a panel that put this together are you surprised by this because let's be honest sometimes the bell tour guys don't get the so you know it's about the skill and the people have to respect it at the end of the day regardless for me man I got mini goals my first goal cashing in a million dollars another level and I'm just now starting to actually see what I'm doing you know my dad's consistently told me Dude by the time you figure out what you're doing in a fire left hand from hell and I just thought get it there as soon as I got into his chin turn the punched over that was all she wrote it was like it was like white on rice but I've been a streetfighter been a fighter I just love the fight so it's a supply and demand for me I'm trying to give the fans what they want which is a good show they give the organization what a under twenty five twenty four years old twenty five in April so you are the top dogs in our opinion enjoyed that and good luck December twenty first against air compost in Hawaii. I want to be a millionaire man who doesn't want to be billy you still have that I do I do my dad has it wow that is who knows man in the future hopefully some guys get bald and try to take me down and see where AJ McKee's ground gamers should AJ McKee be considered the face of Bell Tower ECKART myself million dollar check when I was twelve so having having that being able to accomplish and conquer my first world title at the same time as it's phenomenal man I'm looking forward to when you and your dad didn't disappoint just a couple of weeks ago so congrats on the win congrats on everything you're doing congrats on getting the number one spot on our on our poll there number one yes sir all right we'll talk absolutely there. Aj McKee Aka the mercenary no matter moments we'll talk to another member of Bell Tower I it's GonNa be too late you're going to be light years ahead of people and I'm starting to read footwork I'm starting to read movement and set people up it wasn't just Oh Georgie out uh hopefully he's got some time to get prepared in Charlotte pulls up his bag of tricks how did you feel about how that whole draw went did you like being a part of it you think it was the first round it's I'm the face of belt or for sure it doesn't matter who they put in front of me at this part in this moment of my career I'm GonNa run through I'm on go from one of the youngest guys on the roster to one of the oldest rampage Jackson but first let me tell you about our good friends over at ancestry you know with that kind of confidence that that they do I could do and he hasn't laid out there so drew his number I knew it was coming those kinda surprising having a Manual Sanchez duck but it's not the first time nor the second time he's ducking so it's all good tap a lot of Brown's out blacks are catch catch anyone man I'm such a scrambler no one's really see any of my ground game so attention you guys are you surprised at you you got the number one spot or are you would you have been almost like insulted everyone under twenty five of course I'm number one I'm beating guys in I I love a man I love everything that you're doing you're a great showman your great fighter it's a lot of fun watching you fly like when you're on the card always have to make a point to watch you in seconds I threw a jab at Georgia saw George did he was uncomfortable he was standing southpaw he switched back to Orthodox so I said Okay but though the jab across Osama throw the job okay I heard a song there and then it went away I got excited it sounded different has corporate jake actually listen to my criticism it does seem like he did now dispose Irish for Finite Boston okay interesting so little Irish for Finite Boston even though we're looking at AJ McKee's stats over here interesting I like it way to keep me in off your ancestry. 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It's so easy to get started now for me all I did was I got a box I spit a little saliva on this too insure genealogy and origins only ancestry could tell such a rich story with unique features that give you a more complete picture about a person like events that shaped them how slash MMA that's ancestry dot com slash anime today for twenty percent off your ancestry DNA kit that's ancestry dot com slash Emma May for twenty points you can even trace your ancestors journeys over time falling how and why your family move from place to place and to amplify results you can sort of free trial on answers well you know who wants to fight their favorite fighter but you know as my job justified in Beltsov sending me to Japan just to see how things going how's life you know we're we're getting to the end of the career just wanted to see how you were check in I haven't thought about all right you sir longtime no speak no speaks yeah why have you been elusive why have you not wanted to to be on the show a couple times talk to you why would I talk to you I have never talk about are we are we gonNA fight again breath feeling I'm all too familiar with but here we go on the show right now I think he's he's with US rampage are you there you're American ear I can hear you oh you do your fighting this is appropriate right is exciting stuff rarick site how do you feel about fighting fear after all these years read after we talked to Jamie t whose dad is a fighter as well now we go from one of the youngest fighters on the roster to one of the oldest fighters on the Bell Tower Roster and we've found I've been out about all of these years so it's always exciting for me to see another fighter who has honor and loves fighting in saying that how come I love the way he fights man he go out there you know win-lose matter echo that fight he excites the fans and that's what I what I thought we got past all that are we you know I love you when I got nothing to talk about well sometimes it's nice to catch up check in your affinity for him I didn't know he was your favorite but that's that's great here were you ever in discussions to fight him in the past no never you're never cross you don't have to cut any weight I mean how much these days ex girlfriend I don't have a girlfriend married remember okay actually why how come at face offs you never seem like you were we're travelers that's true that's true well it does seem like there's a mutual respect there because of course you guys were part of pride for all those years and I've heard you talk about he goes out there he goes out there on a show and he goes out there and win do you have a good relationship with him yeah yeah we have we call people's man we doc it was hard for me to turn his fight that he's your favorite fighter baby years I do love excite the fans you know he has killer instinct either he's GonNa Knock you out he's GonNa get knocked out all you're going to need you sued crafts and behind the stadiums and stuff and they believe that is that true why you don't believe you don't think they don't know how to shoot crap not with it I just didn't know that was part of the culture in Japan I didn't know they played that game or in Russia well you know and for the first time since that baiter fight you're frustrated that has to feel like an exciting thing right after all these years to get a chance to get a win I don't like you know I didn't WanNa put out because I wanted to fight in In Japan and he knew I was injured in but then after the fight he said ooh out yeah yeah yeah we'd be we'd be cool we we see each other man we would be shooting crabs no people don't know that about men us that's like one of my favorite shoots ever it was back when you fight you have C. One forty four I know didn't end up the way you want to remember we walk there we talked about the early days we played against each other meantime somebody call my name and and right around that same time and it looks like I was looking at that young ladies bread but I assure you I wasn't looking at seem I think your your manager Tiki posted something on his scam where it seemed like your attention was elsewhere throughout the press conference a bit camera I can recall okay okay okay that makes a lot more sense that makes a lot more since the photographic evidence I don't think tells the real pictures I wanted to being back in Japan like did you feel like people remember you from the early days did you feel the love did you get the red carpet treatment filed it everybody know I love fighting in Japan and those are my favorite fans I'm not GonNa lie I love Japanese fans everybody know that there's only thing I was frustrated about with your but it was like three matches in a row where I beat you amazing you got no I think actually made that part up I was wondering if you remember it because I don't remember the way you were light-heavyweight right no one and what wait is this GonNa be at heavyweight okay so that's a good I mean I feel like that's something you need to know I think I know within within time but it but for me honestly it don't matter Gretna didn't get a chance to make it to the arcade trip yeah do you remember when we went to the arcades together independent right we played tekken that's it you haven't had a fight since September of two thousand eighteen how come so long are you sure what do you mean almost thirteen months oh wow how come so long old around with youth so is this it is you don't come on the show you don't WanNa come on Via skype or facetime so I it's been awhile since I saw you just be laying low I just be at home training playing video games national that's not the reason why fights I I don't notice in that but I I enjoy myself getting back in Japan the only thing that I'm K- I kind of it yeah I'm glad you did you you know glad I wasn't even even looking at their young lady breath church Hersher now what what was the only thing I was frustrated about this fight Dana white new I was injured going into that fight and how they one pull out because I don't like to pull out that's why I got four kids anyway I don't it was a long time between fights I was wondering what was happening hence the reason why I was reaching out you know ah well he didn't get a picture of what I was actually looking at it was it was it was a fan or somebody on the other side they were taking pictures and they wanted me to be I think my heart down like I accident like why would you say that when you when you know I was injured like I told you that that I took them on this that this fight is in a cage or rain because my whole pretty much my whole career I was training in the gun and fighting in the cage and retirement fighter you breaking that news now do okay how many more do you have left in you I'm in Townsville going back to Jovana just Japan that's it I wouldn't mind just honest fighting in Japan that'd be nice but you still have a couple are you sure well that's what your record states that the fight with family yeah yeah left at least man you know I'm not I'm not ready to lay down yet okay well you ready for me to retire no but means just the lines on the side of your head like this look at something a little different were I probably new to you yeah well I haven't seen you I mean aw speaking of which how's how's the the love life going these days but we got I'm not saying Shit you but my love life went to a drought yes but you know I didn't want that for you I didn't wish that for you I don't know I don't know constraint about the comment out today and is this happening in a cage or ring I don't know man you WanNa call it I need it that day so I wasn't you know I thought it'd maybe I had to punch his chance to win but you know I knew it was a chance I was Gonna win that fight they said that my heart wasn't in an and that's that's when that's when everything you know sit with men USC within he said I don't have a ring at my gym it's huge him right it was a rain so to me it doesn't matter the new look so you've got the big beard and you got the line ah I don't remember if you be checking on the I'm the best but master around right right but coming back to Japan I wasn't I I knew I was going to Be Victorious over a wrestler that just loved to wrestling and Hump on you and stuff with a with a bun like kids here like they have it too easy and they've he he's not as hungry as I was at his age you know it is as I was that'd be that'd be saying too much shit and then people begin mad at me like the truth hurts and Shit right that's true who could forget when when asked I think I think he's fucked that up himself to what happened you just you know I don't know I think it's grown up in Orange County so you'd rather not comment and I'm not asking for specific just the state of it I didn't cut nine convents it lesson you asked me about my life the five tell you I was gonna I was GonNa fight because I think the car had got messed up I think somebody has pulled out on their car but you know see see what look look look see what what happened was on on the other side where y'all can see what I was thinking of somebody somebody called out rampage rather than saying you buy your home for dinner I just WanNa know is it going well not going well when I talk to you he wanted when he told me when I was really excited about it but you know when you have kids man you got it Kinda like like ruined him what do you mean I just don't I just you know just like you know like spoke up I'm sorry what about your son your oldest son is he going to fight we'd be seeking cramps Oh yeah man we get down we bet we minded most ambitious Japanese yen would be in the back like my dues from the hood I try your best guide them on the right path and and when you listen to it you just gotTa let them learn hardway so is he getting in trouble it'll be called you you know we called her up on three and all that yeah I'm not they're not no not fix that okay yeah right he ain't it is I mean I talked today about okay I just didn't think they may be in the first place so so are you disappointed about this I'm disappointed in is Karapatan over over fighting fucked you wrap your map around he's nuts walked away your son Yeah Okay How's she doing doing great straight as student lamb basketball she's she's two different basketball teams with me you know he'd had Hungary too easy for them so you know it was always it was always his decision I was hungry I didn't I didn't really like my surroundings so I wanted to do something and better myself and get out of those around us and stems living here oh is that what you mean yeah he gets a little trouble here and there but you know it was like he was like too much like too much like me but and these actions and the choices they know they you know the path that that he's taken but I'm not disappointed that he's not I was and he also has something that's mom and things I don't understand you know you know I I was a little bit more hungrier at his age and I was hungry see that question all those years ago remember what I ask you if you were in love Yeah Oh really okay is he good well no I don't know I listen to music and that's okay I told me so the rampage fighting lineage now with you I think so because I I was I was thinking Raja how are you watching the sport these days or you kind of just like laying loan doing your own thing our going to a moment okay except yeah that was how is that lovely lady doing and she okay you still in contact poke check on talks with really I thought we watch the Congo better fight you think he poked in the eye right I saw on your instagram yeah and he's offering that's why I want to talk your punk cat what do you mean I'm I'm giving you and you should I mean I was going to make a joke that you had the opening but you drop the ball in that one a little we're losing a little bit on the fastball ramp you know what I'm saying I wanted to goes and I wanted to do certain things you know he he I think he he'd rather be rapper he wants to read is unfortunate when when people like try to try to do something like that like what why wow do you think she'll be fight or maybe no folks now she she might have been a basketball player but now she upset back there but now it's its own news okay well I haven't talked to you since I know but I didn't WanNa talk about it all right all right I'm just is also might get in there but I don I don't think no I don't think that unless I unless I go to Japan have some more little babies out there you know that I know I still love you and it's good to talk to you again I'm happy that you're coming back December twenty ninth in Japan against the Great Fyodor Emily Okay so we move whereas we we moving on some that I you know it's like it happens but it just you know have them grow up in Japan and start trying stuff like that you know maybe who knows I I kid Sir I thought maybe your son would be exempt from that kind of language no no okay dawn person exempt from the Carolinas my daughter I don't tell it's not fair it's Fyodor a million co what a great matchup for longtime Emma may fan so them fade or here all right it's the old rampage would've would've been ready with that one no I'm tired of jumping all your nose wait wait wait I don't know see that's why I don't like to just like the time you need you be fucking up my life with interviews okay what about your I hope so all right thank you rampage thanks bye-bye Rampage Jackson joining US returning to action on December the I really appreciate you taking some time out there's a lot going on I saw even nate Diaz was that your show just a couple of weeks ago in Brooklyn right yeah yeah he was out there for that rules and everything and it's just wrong it just it just wrong right like why you got your things if somebody is when you down on the grounds up like that and so yeah us right now on the program what a great honor this is travis how are you I'm great man it's an honor to be on your show oh well thank you desire honor and I know you're really really busy these days so I famous guys that I can remember who would go to a UFC event and show face like when I would watch boxing everyone was in the front row there'd be Brad Pitt and George Clooney and I feel like you were one of the twenty nine th all right let's move along now very excited about this this is a huge honour wow this is incredible so you probably know this man as one of the greatest drummers in the history and from blink one eighty two he's a legend of the music scene he's the inimitable the often imitated never duplicated the man who needs no introduction the Great Travis Barker of music he's also a massive mixed martial arts fan he is a practitioner himself boxing do Jitsu does Emma May in his own right he's the man your shows I watched every embedded I watch all the countdowns I'm obsessed with it I love it this is your favorite sport yes by far okay all right yeah I hear that I something weeks and you don't have a torn retina was which is a blessing so only love him boxing but loving Emma May and then I would always watch. UFC fights bella toward fights strikeforce fights breath and I walked into John Raise Jim in Los Angeles and I started boxing tonight and I never really stopped ever since I started in that led to the trend I grew up with was really really into it and I started boxing when I found out I was having a son started boxing immediately like my first child the name just started going to a couple of them when my my schedule would allow me to but Yom obsess I I literally watch every fight I watched all it gives you the opportunity to back your guy well well anybody they watch anybody that watch a in this like a new thing can clearly see I'm not that kind of guy but it also is like it's not an accident when these extra finger going somebody knows somebody knows and stuff and then the camera really wow and I'm just curious you said you started boxing when your son was born what does one have to do with the other the first wave of people who said like no you have seen as really cool how did you first fall in love with the sport how did you get introduced to it you know can do that you can't do that well that's not on my I don't know who wants that offense and came to the show the next day it was awesome so you have been like you were one of those guys you know from the rampage fighting you have Sierra and even before that like you're one of the I guess like before that I never really didn't boxing MMA may I think that was a pivotal moment in my life where I was like I want to get in shape I want to be here on Gracie's academy in Beverly Hills when they had it was close to where I was living in Culver City and now once in a while I roll Chris Light who who lives just be in great shape for my son and and how to fight in hopefully also you know teach him how to fight in my daughter so you buy me who also worked at that Kademi wow okay and so like for you when you're watching these like what what impresses you most about why were you drawn to it was there something in particular drums and they don't hate me back yes can you sympathize like have you talked to those guys friends of yours who are high level fighters and I wonder if you have found the Ron is the real news why were you I you know into it attracted to it everything the lead up to the fight knowing how much hard work that this guy was hoping he's looking at Uh poking him in and psalms like going this is and it's not go beyond five seats she could buy like a great athlete and she's like twelve years she's really tall really big for for a twelve year old awesome it I've been obsessed it it helps me like prepare for a tour it helps me like even on tour from foam like been out there for a while we all trained in Maine really okay so not just boxing you do Jujitsu as well right yeah I roll with a I used to the dominant cruiser Nate I don't know I just I compare myself a lot a lot to them and it makes me work harder in I'm very fortunate I hit you too fast for everybody to see and be like oh he's not is booking a minute hose I'm like well why is he even knows that's illegal too yeah on my toes so let me tell you about my friends over at ancestry DNA ever wondered where your family comes from you can discover more about the Agean walking down a pretty much walk down those same aisles like leading up to the ring but out to play a show I was like I can't imagine going out there knowing someone L. and whatever I don't know just watching the lead up to a fighter just knowing like my friends are trading forte goes in a training camp already or it's Sorta like them you have to perform when the lights and I'm sure there's nerves involved in exile have you ever talked to them about how they deal with that and if it's the same types of feelings and yeah all right we'll through it is happens live in walking out there in in not just to play a show to that dominic yeah how did you guys meet I think we just met through mutual friends okay you know stand in the middle of a ring and fight somebody that's crazy do you remember the first event you ever went to I think the first one I went to is GonNa you know trying to kill me yeah sued I lost you oh it's okay someone might be calling you right now that happens yeah I invited him to the gym that I trained at out here in Los Angeles and we trained together a few times okay now like when you say he beat on you did you guys actually spar no no he actually is exact words was like try and sleet me like try and knock you've trained with him right wouldn't call it training I got I got I got beat up by pretty well now he was really easy on me but mental warfare and all that stuff that you go through when you're going out to your quote unquote fight Oh for sure I used to dominick Cruz about it just like I cannot imagine common ground like obviously you're going out to perform you're not going out to fight another person but there's a lot of pressure on you there's a lot of eyes on you you're on your on center stage is a spotlight is dominant cruise your eyes favor okay he was their second fight you've C. One thirty two in Las Vegas Yeah Okay were you there supporting training leading up to the fight was always I think I was really obsessed with that because they're trained like that when I get ready to go out on tour out so I had I had like fifteen minutes try and knock him out but his foot work is so crazy and he saw lose and you know one second he'd be in front Lebron come we we got everybody's names is horn well I wish you the best and hopefully it won't be a year before we speak again in just the high competition level is she's insane it's amazing success that just kind of like drew me enough I've never been able to kind of get it just been fighting for like nineteen years and I've I don't I've never like Pokemon by that like never the guy into combat sports or martial arts anything like that I wasn't you know I've always just been into drums and music kind of you know to me the next minute he'd be on the side of me and not down on the ground and his wrestling is just another level and when you were a kid in high school like were you an athlete as well I'm not trying to be a fighter I just im- obsessed with the sport I like it in the form of keeping in shape in it's much much I run a lot I run about three to four miles before every show and am boxing keeps my hands really really fast in elbows the state of your body right now after all those years of drumming what is it like I'm actually okay I figured it out is there is there a fighter too right now that you're very high on like no matter what you're doing you have to watch this person like do you have a favorite fighter too right now that like this is must see TV you know the fast twitch muscles going whereas I used to think I'd be getting ready for a torn lifting weights do something for me whereas actually it would just slow me wow so you're watching prelims and things like that yeah you know it was a bummer I missed this weekend's prelims but caught the main events wow tang yeah I mean that's what keeps my mind right on tour wow that's where no one bothers you know I mean once in a while better and more exciting to me than just heading into gym lifting weights and running on the treadmill and the other members of Blink one eight hundred fans as well I wanna see that Israel out of sign you Pala cost to fight hope that happens so yeah I mean I I watched no matter what like the cubs any time they're fighting of course I like strengthen the sport that I have never miss an eight fight I love him in Nick you have cjm's just walking yeah hit pads do a little sparring so you Travis Barker just waltzes into one of these twenty four hour gyms and just starts hitting pads that's it GonNa make me really really stiff so when you're on the road in some random city are you still able to box for you do all that beforehand yeah actually stop it a lot of the never miss a John Jones fight love John Jones of course dominant cruise makes his return I'll be watching I appreciate it I really look forward to your show like the Monday following the fights to kind of get the recap wow that means a lot I was such a big the figured out that battleships in boxing is probably the closest thing to Dromey so like twenty to thirty minutes at a time dog together we'd watch the fights from their happening or or I'm just like fighting for my satellite to work when I'm on the bus yeah I never I never miss it by blink fan back in the day like the the song miss you like my wife now but we dated and then we broke up and like that song offers like holding pads maybe they're a little excited they wanNA spar and a little out of control it would ever I G- I guess there's like points and saying like whatever I sparred with traveling I got the best of or something once in a while I'll give up but I always tried to remind everyone look I'm a big Fan of the sport I love boxing I love him a May swats fight this weekend was where the gray I pretty much don't miss a flight that's amazing you really know your stuff pulling out little bit they'll walk in my dresser who's fighting you know they have no clue but I try and everyone on we have fight night on the on the tour to solve though and like I felt like it spoke to me and like I was a huge fan I saw you guys once in concert and the fact that you guys are still doing your thing and that you're not like and correct me if you feel otherwise I don't think as opposed to relevant right now do you know what I mean yeah yeah I feel very fortunate very lucky very blessed to to you know to be in the situation and not just like oh it was fun because we were fans of yours in the ninety you know what I mean and I'm wondering how you guys maintain that like how did you become almost like a character of of yourself because that's you what I love so much about you guys right now is that you're not just like a throwback ban relevant act people still respect you for who you are today wrongs and not just become legacy act I think that's been our goal from you know from the time we started our band you know what once you get past that however to be the case with a lot of the bands from the pop ends from the nineties like people love them and they're happy to go support them but they don't view them in the same today as they did back then they kind of just view them as nostalgic you spent blessing we have amazing fan base and still really enjoy what we're doing anytime I think of you so impressed with your Ark and I apologize if this is too personal but I'm just wondering if I can ask you about the plane crash and how you've gotten over that like mentally do you still will feel haunted by it are you over I can't imagine going through something like that does it still does it still haunt you do you still have nightmares about it how how how do you deal with that now every September eighteenth at at eleven fifty nine pm you know I reach out to their reach out to me so there's cost reminders suggest you know obviously like I lost three of my best friends I turned out to be the only survivor in the crash so you know to my best friend's moms hit me that were that you just described you know being able to make new music that still charts you know we still have singles that are relevant people still react to the new sauces especially do the so yeah like like September nineteenth was the day that crash in every year I know when it's coming I feel you know besides one hundred percent after it happened couldn't help but but not change it you know besides like the physical harm that endured I think I always try to send them flowers or just touch base and say hello but yeah I mean I don't think it's something that obviously changed my life Romania I one two three years Kinda determines whether you're just going to be a one hit wonder you're going to be a band with the long longevity in a in a long career the place where I feel one hundred percent comfortable going back on a plane and you're bandmates fly yeah they fly oh man sixty eight percent of my body was burned but losing like people that were close to me I don't think I ever forget that in still don't fly I get it over with but I also I think when the time's right I'll do it I'll never say never do it but I haven't come to the ninety day trip from from New York to London wow and so there's never a moment where you're like this this is too long like let me give it a go let me try I haven't no I I'm on a tour bus one hundred percent of the time and then when I go to Europe I take the Queen Mary two ever consider that or you'll never go on a plane ever again there's absolutely moments okay every seventeen hour bus ride I do I'm like oh I should just fly having just one hundred and ten percent at everything I have everything I love everything I have a chance to still do so you have not been on a plane since what I also know that I'm here for a reason and you know I seize the day I cherish every moment make the most of my second chance that I've been deep but I was living really reckless before my plane crash so it it really you know Kinda pump the brakes in for life since then without a doubt I mean I can't really put into words in a exactly on on how much it changed me yeah I do it solo but I mean I really I really make the most of that time I produce a bunch of other acts you know a lot of younger artists in N. just yeah I mean I got really lucky you can't really tell it was mainly from my feet almost to my waist down was burnt so you know there's no physical bus ride out there but I can also stop every day in Rhine in encounter practice leading up to the start of the tour which is Kinda cool outcome for like if the tour starts in New York they'll fly out to New York whereas if the tour starts in New York I I drive out there take like six or seven day you know okay wow so I guess that kind of makes it harder because you have to go through this alone on the boat you're by yourself or at least you're not with them right you have to kind of go through that journey by yourself people in general so oddest bring studio out your laser focus 'cause you have zero distractions is just you have a gym and you have a room so I set up a stories in three months so you went from recreational doing drugs to all of a sudden like having morphine in having all these drugs I had to take agin right yeah being for like twelve years vegetarian since I was thirteen wow and did you get the blessed Tattoo after the crash yeah apropos it makes sense yes sir as I mentioned nate was at your concert I know he stuck it from me and put things in perspective you know went from like abusing drugs to being in a hospital in burn centers that got out about thirty something sir first time I ever saw nate or nick fight I loved those guys men I didn't know them but I felt like I knew them felt like someone I grew up with it hasn't it hasn't prevented me from doing anything I run every day box every day I still play the drums so I'm I'm blessed you still kitten there a practice packed kids so I don't like Dr Everyone on the ship crazy and then bring a studio outstay really productive you feel like you have a greater appreciation around next day to be there how did you meet him how did you link up with him had you become friends I don't even know how I connected I mean I was always a fan see happen I think Israel versus Jones Oh yes that would be easy yes I'm from scars are cool those were those were tattoos floor I had you know tattoos scars were were collected in in yeah I'm fine human maybe a stupid question but I'll ask anyway do you have a prediction for November second the BMX title fight Nate Diaz Hoary Mazda who you going with scars on my on my face some of my hands and kind of see they're just like discolored or whatever but now you know just really reevaluated my life the way I was living wow and how's your body now you still have the scars from the Burns has a healed completely if one of these days we can actually meet in person yeah that'd be awesome thank you thank you all the best to Travis Travis Barker of blink one eighty two yeah both my kids watch all the flights with me wow it's awesome and they both trained growing up I just felt like they had no like the you know fellow Vegan I love that guy I love the way trains and love you just all the triathlons and yeah he's just a great yeah I just wish for the best they'll both be mass so I never say I wish someone would win in someone would lose I don't think that's cool okay can I ask you before you go but I never really make predictions I think that's just going to be a I mean we all know again we're getting a real fight when those two meet it comes around yeah they're fans Travis I gotta say this was a huge deal for me I really appreciate it I can't believe I'm talking that it was no longer the minute I got out there I pretty much was cleaned the only thing I did was smoke weed but I stopped everything else just kind of I would be wild I don't know if that will ever happen but I I love how it's feeling like it might happen yeah you follow their back and forth on social media on the show man it's awesome the alias no idea thank you thank you a means a lot and continued success to you and the rest of the band I'm still following really big deal after the UFC Carter hope you watched it and that featured Dmitri's Johnson competing in the finale of their flyweight tournament and you know I always feel bad making any kind of predictions because I I hate saying like oh I want this person who this person to lose obviously I want to win because he's my boy okay speaking of a great thrill how about one championship this past weekend had two events there century events if you will one of which aired on TNT which is joining us right now on the show how cool was that amazing love having the celebrity fans on the program and was definitely a huge fan of there's massive fan had all the okay six of high kicking and hitting they're not into it like me but but but yeah they definitely love it they love Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I've been seen it back and forth you know but both you're taking shots at each other so that being exciting client and by the way are your kids into it as well so far would it be fair to say this was the best one for you yes it was I think it was the time difference man is fresh off the plane coming home from Japan fresh off the plane literally minutes ago a true mench joins us today on the program I wanted to have you on thank you so much for doing this. Congratulations man dance area appreciate a man it was it was a good fight yes okay and how are you feeling I see the is a little bit de-devious everything went to one of their concerts that was really cool so thank you very much a travis for doing that and also Chris Light who he mentioned Jitsu coach for helping to set that up as well that was a great it's no longer new right it's all kind of more familiar the nerves are gone you don't have to prove yourself to anyone you know all the people you know everyone behind the scenes like you just feel a little more comfortable now after warning Japan every day and then I would train it you know. Apm American time and then go to bed around b. m. p. m American time which would be like okay right here in this hand man I feel good what do you think it's broken I'm broken when I hit him I so you know George Marshall is ease awesome yeah I I love him fighter too I love what he did have been asking mm-hmm yeah we support have been at every fight of I've been able to to be at depending on my schedule but yeah he's great any time you train and then you get back to all tied maybe ten o'clock at night get some food you've got to go back to bed it's it's a lot of work show with this whole setup on re-fights yeah one percent I mean especially when having you know my coat my main coach in in the corner you know me James Antonio Sunday get bond gone eat that's fermented basically draws in water into your sins any causes bloating pain gas puffy there how are you feeling afterwards I feel good then forget no injuries just a little sore as usual you said walk around like one hundred thirty six pounds we what are you talking about with the antibiotics I didn't know this what were you dealing with I've been diagnosed with CBO after defied Already acclimated to this to that set a time while so so you actually stayed on American time pretty much yeah I did I did I was going to be at six thirty and fight isn't in the works not cost or D. as mas well like one fight like a dream fight for Travis Barker's one fight before it's all said and done that you really want for my first fight Wakamatsu species small intestinal bacterial overgrowth basically testing gates or growth in bacteria so whatever up in the morning Glory Breakfast Between Eleven thirty twelve o'clock in afternoon and they get back to army obligations shale but Abed in do it every single day so I think it was like seventy nine o'clock pm there's no but I wish it in America time now is there also something to the fact that all right now we've done it three times over the new organization this whole CBO battle and then once I'm doing this once attests word again I hope I get my weight back to where it should be which is like you know one forty the to kill the bacteria antibiotics for a long damn time when I was when I was in Japan I finish this uncatered not alive to understand we travel that far and I usually go up ten days out at in you have all the obligations and then at night supporting and wishing you guys the best and your inspiration everything you've overcome is amazing and it's great to have you as a fan of not only the sport the shows well so thank you so much for doing this I really appreciate it you know I've been I've been on three rounds of antibiotics this training camp and in a previous wind antibiotics as well so I think I'm at the end that I trained for Wakamatsu and in Manila then acted a- came home has brought injuries to the CBO tested again like US Nevada ix it in three days before the final KC all staff at in non back home two weeks and then I test again for rolled my hand low bid or trying to him job actually hit him back here again ear so this oil paint human I've been my wrist back and forth not good of the three fights in when I test on the twenty second I believe we're clear man how do you contract develop something like this so back to normal day after the fight I woke up one thirty four point two so my bias I'm just small right now really really small how did you find out that you had like it affected your performance like did you feel weaker out there I mean I don't feel weaker but I mean there's things were going five rounds and then what to Florida in I try to clean up my diet and it just kept on being painful painful painful out to e how big meal a healthy Komo on for movies as reflex stirred Sidon dollar this war since March and the antibiotics to regulate uh CBO and then if it's still there background antibiotics so I'm hoping this time I don't see both Introduced in these back into my diet weight unbalanced it can be caused by stress because my life seems you know and yeah I just don't know Oh man do you feel this so after I got back home from Japan actually Thailand I had like we order pizza because about to go to Florida it's like six hundred sixty two and next on my summer she jacked up just Jack Up and as I conduct unusual whatever want Simitis crunch whatever want John Saxon and then I did I did twenty eight fifteen days of side effects in the ten days of flagellate than I did thirty days or I just feel better when heavier wow by the way has anyone ever told you that you have incredibly white teeth I mean this is something else thirteen on these passing gas like that interesting instinct just passing gas lets you nauseous something's wrong I gotta go to see a doctor in saw Dr did appreciate it strips or are those things called you know like the the white strip do you use anything I mean it's just unbelievable those are true pearly whites right there the bigger it's just nice to have a little more weight on because even after I was learning need battle with Danny I just the cage like my ribs are bruce out have need battles in the past typically it's it's almost sort of formed IBS which era Bowel Syndrome which I do not have okay sometimes you're by just gets a gut for all that's air bypass my round so usually typically the first fights it's hard to get adjustment this is the best of our foulkes I'm getting used to being small in you know look to stole sample blood sample all that stuff in your body our time digestion carbohydrates and the talk another doctor in office in there like how did this am when I came back to the corner I'll sit down which which which would you think we're we're sitting here having food law conversation during the rounds and I'm also going to justify still there and I'm like what the hell okay what else wanted to know like this she said she would every antibiotics be got all right let's do it then now we're at the end of that and hopefully Trojan rioting water conclave Brandenburg taken online song amish huge fan like I love kickboxing way more than mixed martial arts when I was like I dunno showed up like you might have CBO let's test for that in I tested on antibiotics never done a professional one I respect they do man Eneko do a lot a lot of damage brain trauma in I like I like you know really if I had an event Oh my God it's kick boxing so much better because the strike and so much cleaner like it's just cleaned striking If I had the opportunity to go in life and I tried to take care of mine yeah I mean I'm blinded by them to be honest right there like I'm standing right up it's unbelievable you should be very proud of those what was my vampire one which took place in on TNT Angelie and Shannon depend this fight with sick Christian Lee take on doggy that was an amazing and those guys did so much damage absolutely not in once I like watching wants four it's all said and done I've done a kickboxing fight before fight Christian lead to that fight on two weeks notice man puked his brain dow adding going back that same night to watch kickboxing Georgia what was the scene like for those to look like a big deal what was the like due to a sick I mean the whole the whole week is out we started off with that defense I can sense I can sense that he has understanding of distance now what about this built that they gave you how gigantic you haven't scientists right caboose at all I mean even when Wada got behind me and put me to buy triangle and ask twists toward all Jim I less rid so man I got visit line in brush my teeth twice a day a floss in our retainers all the time so I appreciate that I think teeth or reporting things it is it sounds to me I'm not GonNa lie it's Oh my gosh it's it's it's my favorite one I'm looking at that words wow aw moving wrestling and avoid getting hit with the wrestling Clinton so may one day but nominated too much beating who's your favorite it's nothing to flashing but it's a high level of understanding distance in control in never overextending in he legit I wanNA watch through Egypt a weight wise do you know how much weighs twenty two pounds I wasn't weren't pound how much is the UFC one in comparison the old one that you had invest which is also were fifty six we tagging East sports the first day the second day we had shoeprint or five that was fantastic and then we have mind enroll you know I'm used to walk around like one hundred and forty pounds now one thirty six and I'm still getting I feel like they'll ass I got used to it but I the only thing I was into I really didn't get into this until much later in my life and the abuse I would imagine on your body like maybe your arms your wrists bringing it back from from from Japan home did you take it on the plane with you you didn't check on I ninety check this trained will make it happen just because his his arm sense of distance and he has real good is in his combinations are good I'm everything he does is very basic it felt like a different kind of deal was a one off because it was the one hundred event or is this going to be more of the norm going forward Oh this is this is not boxer of all time Georgia Trojan wow by far and you got to watch him was that your first time seeing him live no second time senior mice in live in America not online or something like that like fell bigger it felt like a big deal I mean TNT now in the pro wrestling business synonymous for many years of the Progressive Business NBA. Of course I think the old one was twelve pounds so my twelfth ride yeah so this is a this is way heavier it's beautiful can you wear around your waist tried man I don't I mean I don't think I can't I was out walking in the back of the Rena with it on my shoulders I was like I take this this this thing is you know we want one Chechen gets more North American audience than we not wait one champ comes to North America they're going to be broadcast some more on TV uh-huh kickboxing k one event over mixed martial arts event I'll take the K. one mixed martial arts so why don't we do oh fuck no dinah him yeah yeah I met him I said if I ever come to Italy I want to train and he was absolutely come out in his marriages to me me but it it was in a suitcase nobody you out will it wouldn't draw attention to me being on TNT. I don't WanNA finish more norm going forward obviously champ she made this deal with not going to be sure more live events obviously when serious so we get you in the shopping online y'all have ninety my bloody word it and he goes Dan this this house like Jeff Label so what was it like during talks I think I think that we masquerade garden I think they sell the place out I mean if you bring some high level just martial artists over there you bring so this was not a one off everybody can expect to see more on T. is that going to happen in twenty twenty that's that's so you would have more Americans than actual Other people like Japanese Chinese Korean I think we had Chinese marine on a Japanese Italy Brazil Filipinos I mean we we had a whole stew of I think you disappointed are they talking about MSG for the debut I mean they thinking about from what I've been told her on during the rules meeting and just it's literally like we're finding a you know with all the best in the world tour I thought North America interest in this event is it fair to say the one championship kind of saved your love for always loved mixed martial arts no matter where were you married man yes you got three children come home from training camp and literally on Japan playing the world champion of Evil Twenty Nineteen Dolgin in street fighter five and then the next four days later not to give people you know on a gentleman from Russia we had John from Brazil Italy just all over the place in different dialects and different interpreters astle Babatunde but I'm joined the trips over to Japan and Singapore Manila they're beautiful they're beautiful places in there's nothing like a spiracy different you're I'm always going to let mixed martial arts more short so the net so just to be clear for the fans at home you're not the flyweight champion you're the Grand Prix champion correct talk one of the things when I was at the event this weekend is Larry sent back in and seeing how diverse so many cultures are here and then we had I'm GonNa say somewhere along the East area we would obviously you'd like to be on that card right or are you enjoying fighting in Asia and don't want ever fight here in America dude I that is correct on the fly World Grand Prix champion not not to fly what he championed that that's eight areas and when is that I mean that's the obvious next fight right and when I was growing up watching and stuff you have a grand prix in a certain weight class at the end the person who won the grammy will get a chance to fight for the world title on format the winner gets to fight for the belt and then if the promotion wants to another Grand Prix defining that's they do so with this yes yeah a straight dude but it's early so now why don't you go to a professional to do this why would you do this on your own kids I'm lazy and Canal me the ticket to fight not a dramas and I'll probably be twenty twenty right now I just got them finding three times in a year Abidi he'll get my health be at van will start training get ready for that now it's all well good it's great you got the bill to your three know what a great year it's been for you what bounce back you but what happened to the beard Pistola by the number one contender no no popularity contest you take the best deal eight seven seven guys in division you do a Grand Prix the coast so I mean I think it's a big arena symbolic place in everybody's fight there before so I wouldn't be surprised if image cheese but one of them I'm actually enjoy finding an Asian trip the Japanese fans are amazing just a coach or a soft but if I between you know on North America Again A. B. My my crunch my handicap teaching me how to eat my food and how cook it or whatever but if I learn how to do it myself than I can be my own Dietitian in knowhow food digested breaks down this food wise this coverage is better than this wise this protein but initiating so Canadian I think is giving me a new pep in my step to to fight more I mean accompanying ads journal Japanese sports okay several quick quick they'd and so that's why I keep on practice practice makes perfect all right so so you are human after all you're not superhuman you mess up your beer as well but by the way you look like young Dj here like not like Super Young WC DJ like earlier I don't mind it felt a little like a throwback nobody's home you got you got an hour and a half to yourself you use give born when you use like you're not out I think I'm GonNa get myself a fade Messed up and so now this is what I got oh shade take twenty years off my life and still look good yes and by the way you're an A. W. Fan I hear based on your social media yeah I I am so I'm the brothers unfortunately Eddie Alvarez couldn't compete on the card but I talked to him recently sounds like he's getting better so congrats on everything man great year for you and I really appreciate you doing this after Oh so you actually tried to style you mean to do this yeah I try to Stoller here I started up with the aid you're not here that's your guy all right well big things happening over there congratulations great event I saw the online sang victory over Brandon Vera Angelilli of course and crucially installations to him and everyone involved that was really cool stuff over the past couple of days Saturday and Sunday as well now next up on the program this is very exciting I've been trying to get this man on the a closet wrestling wrestling fan so awol's watching it and now it's just sitting there me my my wife Desi we're sitting here watching it not only he is enjoying but his entire team city kickboxing out of Auckland New Zealand is unfortunately perhaps talking to annoying people like me so without further man and then the thing is like when my hair say the longer it gets looks like people care my face and so what I WANNA do is make it be straight like a like a Grand Prix I'm you know I love with me I'm happy I'm happy I'm never going to not fall in love when I'm eighty five years old if I make it that much so for quite some time and let me tell you he's very elusive he doesn't like to do a lot of media he doesn't like to do a lot of interviews but a by product of this

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Can you believe what we're talk a little fantasy here? We know Patrick. Mahomes Mark Jackson your top quarterbacks but maybe there's one that you're missing so we're to rank them discussing the pros in on this and look. There are all the pros on your screen right now. Hi Everybody happy Thursday. Welcome INTO NFL. Our panel everywhere. All around the World Tim Hasselbeck Damien. Woody Jeff Darlington. I'm Diane Rossini here in Bristol Connecticut Guy so great to talk to you. Hope your families are safe and healthy. Let's begin here with really. What's the big picture? What's going on around the world to review Essentially of how this has gone down a little time line of the reopening of sports potentially and the NFL. Tuesday we know that Arizona's governor said that professional sports can resume without fans this Saturday then. Wednesday schefter reported that the NFL extended the virtual off season. The end of May also Wednesday Florida's governor saying all professional. Sports are welcome here for practicing and playing and then guys panthers owner. David tougher weighed in on the possibility of games being played in front of fans this him on the and we see he said you won't be play having full stadiums but that doesn't mean you can have some fans in the stadium either now if you're comfortable being in a close airplane for cross country trip eighteen inches apart maybe with two seats in between you and being five feet away from each other you might be comfortable in an open. Aired stadium the. Nfl is looking all contingency plans right now trying to figure out how to make this work. Jeff Charleston joining us here with some information. So what more can you add here about? Where the stands with reopening? Well this is a very complicated measure at this point. Even when Dave tepper does open up the possibility to playing in front of some fans the leave behind the scenes conversation with them and others around the league point to a number of obstacles even then for instance what happens. How do you decide who gets those seats in a place? Like Green Bay where the stadium is essentially sold out by season ticket. Holders the third party ticket market if someone has a group of four tickets and they try to sell those split them up two and two and now you have to strangers sitting together. How do you overcome that obstacle? And perhaps even more importantly than that something to consider the legal liability of having vendors inside a stadium ultimately if they were to get sick or God forbid die and then all of a sudden there is litigation based on an unsafe workplace another obstacle for these NFL teams to get around now. What we can point out here. Is that the. Nfl is doing everything to plan for every possibility the NFL currently putting out a protocol how to get people simply inside their facilities to begin work in a regular capacity and then also planning for. What is downstream from there? And I can tell you. I was talking to some people about how they plan on doing. This and a couple of people brought up the model of the Miami. Dolphins are currently utilizing Co. Tom Garfinkel currently getting accreditation from the Global Bio Risk Advisory Council. So that you can have more safe venue. When they were to ultimately opened up the fans this is something that other teams are also looking into. But certainly just wide open spectrum when it comes to finding the answers to what are now a multitude of questions. You mentioned that I am dolphins. Jeff I know you're in Florida and your governor. There is just mentioned actually on Fox News that he's already spoken to the University of Florida. I saying I've already spoken with some of our Colleges University of Florida. They got a great football stadium. The swamp that's not used on Sunday so. Nfl team needs a place to land. We can work that out too so it seems that Florida is committed to try to move this along but again this is very layered and still a lot to get before sports can return now teams normally would be holding. Ota's in May followed by June minicamp but those activities have been cancelled because of the corona virus. Here's a couple of California these players on the pay having to move somewhere to actually play. I think so I think For All of us are dealing with change throughout these tough times and I think this is something that everybody in the world has suggested not disastrous for player so we had to go move to a different state or different city to be able to get back to work and build. Help feed our families in. I'm sure a lot of guys in most of the guys four. There's a way to safely be able to bring football to households able to Do something That was would be some sense of normalcy for people. I think there's a way to safely do that You know the guys are GonNa be all all onboard for it. Sounds like getting a mixed bag of sauce there. And certainly getting a mixed bag of thoughts about this. Guy Cowboy quarterback Dak Prescott still waiting on that long term deals you've got until July fifteenth to sign his exclusive franchise tender though. There hasn't been much reported progress in these contract. Negotiations the latest. We really heard at least can understand on the situation. Is that cowboys executive vice president. He even told The Dallas Morning News. Obviously is the elephant in the room. Ever knows it. We've gotTA keep grinding. Jerry's always told me as a mentor. Mind as the money gets bigger. The deals get harder. Obviously when we're talking about Dakyns as big as it gets in the league so it's gotTa be right for deck and it's gotTa be right for us now. It goes zero sum game for Jerry and I were justified enough cap space. Would ever we do? Here is just a matter of how much we want to allocate to one player and we just continued certainly the big story of the off season as we continue to wait to see what they decide to do. So Jeff I want to start with you. How soon do you think before? Dak and the cowboys agree on a new deal done. I find it funny every time I say something that is like pro cowboys. I get a text from somebody closer to dock. That says that I'm wrong. And every time I say something. That's pro doc. I get it from the cowboys so clearly. We're still a little bit a ways off your right but but what I would point out what I continue to point toward is the deadline. It's just feels. Both sides need a hard deadline which is in July July fifteenth. Maybe we have to have this conversation until then that being the day that people who are franchise tagged can negotiate a long-term deal beyond that they have to wait until the off season. So that's the hard deadline. We need to continue to watch here until then I understand we can continue to talk about Dot Prescott. Maybe wanting four years. The cowboys wanted to give him five. I sense that it's even more complicated than that. But at this point just you're eye on that deadline in until then we'll just keep keep talking about it. Tim Complicated or not as former quarterback here. What's your take on? How Dallas has actually handled? The negotiations altogether. They've blown it because Dak Prescott is going to be way more expensive now than it would have been had. They ripped up his dealer done an extension after year. Three much like legals did with wins in the Rams Jared Goff and so those two guys get their deals done which ups kind of the price for starting quarterbacks and then I also think if they don't get something done before Patrick Mahomes or before Deshaun Watson it's GonNa go up even more. The reality is they have done after year. Three when Dak had never etta season where he threw more than twenty three touchdown passes when he never had a season where he threw for over four thousand yards but instead because they waited he goes and has his best year. He throws thirty touchdowns throat for nearly five thousand yards and now he's more expensive so jeff saying you know. Maybe it's more complicated. I don't think it's all that complicated. Dak Prescott is going to come in somewhere around four years. One hundred and fifty million five years one hundred ninety million. It's going to be around thirty seven. Thirty eight million dollars. That's the that's what it's GonNa cost for Deck Prescott to be their starting quarterback and listen. I'll people have talked about. Hey maybe you know. He shouldn't eat up so much of the CAP. But I know my boy d would is just not hearing that at all the right. It's not the players jobs. Where by the salary cap the players job? Get the best deal they get for himself. Club is responsible for getting talent and out the whole situation. Look Tim. You're absolutely in this particular situation. Cowboys dropped the ball where they could've negotiated worked out a deal with that. I got last year before. He had the type of year that he had this year. Where specifically this year and also think about this guys I mean if you look at that I got where his mindset is that right now think about this in a couple of years the NFL at another gate schedule. You have to renegotiate. They still have to do another a new TV deal. That's going to mean a lot more revenue that's GONNA come into the League so here Dak Prescott trying to do a five year deal trying to get back to the table as quickly as possible and I think that's what the holdup all about. Look you can continue to also think that the cowboys already. I remember talking to Scotland Clue and years ago pointing out that they never got a deal. Done with kirk cousins he was the GM of the redskins and they couldn't get the deal done with Kirk cousins because ultimately his value had risen too high before they were able to get the deal done where they couldn't come back to the middle. That would be my fear when it comes to Prescott and is perceived value on the open market and for the cowboys. Currently have him the only thing. I continue to reserve judgment on is. I can't wait to see what the ultimate deal was because as much as we want to continue to say the cowboys blue and I'm not saying one way or the other because I just don't think that we know enough at this point whether Dax should take the deal on now or not. We just don't know because we aren't the ones looking right now at the language of the deal the value of the deal or any of it and it's hard to try to play both sides in the middle of negotiation like this. I just think that we do have to be very careful. Thinking one side or the other in a scenario when we may be don't know everything about exactly how these negotiations are going back in. Just jump back at the. I mean the reality is this though because of how he entered the League if you would have done a deal with him after year three he at that point had made two point seven. Five million dollars that's it that was his earnings. So as quarterbacks standards go that is cash poor with a year left on your you're not GonNa make a lot of money. That leverage at that point in the teams hands like they have the leverage now deck is looking at a franchise tag a thirty one million dollars the year after that. You know maybe thirty six or more and then you're looking at situation. He's basically saying look. I have two years seventy million dollars sitting right in front of me right now. That's the launching off point because they waited this long. Here's the one that there are a lot of facts that we don't know Jeff that you that you mentioned. We don't know what they're offering. But we do know that. They've said he hasn't won a super bowl and that seemed to be a sticking point as why they didn't. WanNa pay him out. But the fact is only five. Quarterbacks have ever thrown for twenty touchdowns in each of their first four seasons peyton manning Dan Marino Russell Wilson Dak Prescott and Garett car. So he's he's got to stand on end the leverage back here on NFL lobby NFC has combined to post the worst win percentage in the NFL over the last three seasons and now three before teams. They're going to have new head coaches this season. Mike McCarthy me now no he's with the cowboys we got Ron Rivera in DC. With Jack Del Rio and then we've got the giants with Joe Judge. Has He's GonNa get his shot with Jason Garrett as the offensive coordinator and it's going to be Daniel Jones of course at the quarterback position for New York. Jones entered his second season after complicated rookie year here while he threw for the fourth most touchdowns ever by a rookie just coughed up an NFL. High eighteen fumbles. Now here's Daniel Jones on diving into Jason Garrett playbook. I certainly did that diving into some of the the cowboys stuff and what they had done in the past how the rules make it tough to communicate a whole lot about that stuff so so you know. There's a little bit of patients involved in that and getting to the point where we could get the playbook and the kind of understand some of the concepts and and get some of the verbiage but I did my best to be prepared for when I could get my hands on also springs back up to the panel starting with Tim Hair. Tim We we heard. Joe Judge. Say that this offense is going to look a lot like the cowboys offense. So now that the giants what can we expect with Jason Garrett running the show here while I think we'll see an offense that runs through the running back much like Dallas. Offense ran through. Zeke Elliott run through saquon Barkley and New York. That's what Jason Garrett will want to do. And then you know you heard Daniel Jones talk about concepts and verbiage. The passing concepts are going to be a lot of the same stuff that we've seen around the league in general and so. There's not going to be a Tom. That's noticeable there. The verbiage will be different. Daniel Jones kind of speaking to the uniqueness of this off season and the rules that are in place and how that can make it difficult. Jason Garrett is going to want to run the football. Dan will be featured passing concepts that you see around the league that you saw dollars you'll see in New York and January. Jones is a fine fit for that because he's a smart guy should work advantage with this kind of bizarre off season that we're having a just a personality standpoint. Tim. Daniel Jones is very mild mannered. He's very calm. And I think we know obviously enough about Jason Gary. He's never ride into high. Never riding too low so just from a personality match. I think this is. This is one that can certainly work. And you know you take a look at what Jones will be working with specifically with Garrett here remember and sometimes I forget this that Garrett Lewd one of the NFL's best offenses during his tenure in Gallup's right. I think he got so much criticism. But if you look at this mcavoy's generated five point eight yards per play third in that span behind. Only saint in the Falcons. Now take a listen to running back. Saquon Barkley talking about the possibility of reaching out to Garrett old running back Ezekiel. Elliot's haven't had contact Zeke yet I do plan on doing But I kind of one. That's been consistent down myself and then you know. Get to Zeke and see what what he was doing here was doing there. Because it's Kinda like anything I was like. There's a basis stuff steady. Learn the days that that you gotta be able to do but then day. There's some stuff that you gotta do. As a football player it'd be become user created I'll definitely use him. Try to learn from where he was able to Damian. I'm all for learning. Let's going on here. What is what is your reaction. We're talking to division rivals. Potentially comparing notes about Jason Gary and how he helped Zeke and how saquon can do it and these two to talk about. What do you think about this? I'M NOT GIVING UP RABBLE. Listen listen we could be and we can hang and do all those things but you want me to help you learn people beck and try to defeat me. No No. I'm not having any of it. Maybe that's the news food players that everybody's Buddy Buddy and friends hang out all season but I guess I you know maybe. Call me a mini boom or something. But I haven't all of that stuff where I'm giving tips on the playbook now no no to that reaction from d. word all day long. I will say I'm a little bit surprised. You know. Listen if there was a guy from beaver Dam Virginia the WANNA hang out with season. He was going to be with that. I have. There's no doubt about it. Look so many guys share agents share Offseason homes or live in the same area. Same you know training with each other when you look at this so many guys look at it like Hey. I want players to do well and look if you're not going to help the Guy. Don't show your cards. Don't tell them that you're not gonNA help him act like you're giving them some advice. Just give him some advice. That's more like something you would have done dance. Espn nine PM. Such where I'm picturing Michael Jordan. Wanting to murder people at the slightest little slides not helping competitor saquon. Barkley is just being a nice guy. Get it but let's talk about another goat. I remember talking to Robert Griffin the third several years ago using the and they were having joint practices. The Idiots and Robert. Given the third tells me that he's standing next to Tom Brady and Brady. Does something three looks over to Tom. Hey Tom like when you saw that right there. Like what were you thinking? And why did you make that decision and Tom Stone face just leave looks to Robert and says hey maybe when I retire I can help you but for now no handouts and they went on about their grim? But I'm watching Michael Jordan and I'm saying you're certainly quite savage man. I'm learning a lot about you three. I say you're all very kind but I don't think lying to the other person Tim is the way to go but I see what you're saying. They're just kidding. I wonder what are the biggest moves the randy this season we know right was cutting todd? Gurley he spent five years with the team this part of cap saving obviously but we know that girlies whole the neat thing. It's really been an issue. Well HIS NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN ATLANTA DIRK CUTTER. Who recently in on his car and take a listen only twenty five years old and he's had two seasons where he was arguably the best running back in football when he's at his best he's got speed. He's got power he can break tackles. He's elusive he's catch the ball out of the backfield. You know we just gotTa see how healthy he is and how consistently he can do it. He can still do it it just a matter of. How often can you do it? Be The question continues there though we're apart these days sharing so at Geico we'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your. Diy Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lips star. Now it's turned with the GEICO giveback fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers. Because we're committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit laster full policy term visit GEICO DOT COM SLASH. Give back for more info and eligibility with the six. Pick in the twenty twenty. Nfl draft the Los Angeles chargers select Herbert quarterback Oregon's. He has all the tools he's going to have a tremendous career to be on the west coast. I was always a big fan. I'm going to do my best. Do the best quarterback I can be better get better. I'm just accept them. Harbor was selected sixth overall by the chargers after he capped off his organ career with the Rose Bowl victory here and MVP honors after. Become the first quarterback to rush for three touchdowns in the bowl since Vince. Young did it in two thousand six and he was dominant in the red zone with the duct. We're talking fifty touchdowns to just four interceptions when it mattered. Most the kid can play and guess what joining us here on. Nfl Lie so. Let's just Herbert who was drafted by the chargers just three weeks ago. I can't believe how quick time is going but that being said a week after they drafted you the charges. Put that tweet out about this time. Capsule survey thing that you filled out when you were about nine years old. I think you were in fourth grade and the question was when I grow up. I'm going to be and you actually answer the question a professional football player which I. That's kind of normal. A lot of guys want to football players but then when they ask you to list your favorite team you filled in chargers football and then look at it. It all came together. So how do you feel about your predictions coming through here Justin? I thought it was pretty cool. I kind of forgot about that. And my mom did a good job of finding that. It's kind of funny the way things worked out in. I think being from Eugene. It's Kinda tough without a pro sports team other than the Blazer. So we just. Kinda pick their team on the west coast and just happened to be the chargers. Yeah and then you also said that you like the city of Los Angeles so go figure. The chargers moved to La. But it's basically just all coming together for you. You obviously were chargers handwrite. So who's your favorite player? Growing up. I was a big Lindane Tomlinson Fan. I think we had a couple of his jerseys. I think we even had a drew brees Jersey but just kinda shirts and is really funny to look back and see stuff that we had our. I sell the guy. He didn't mention there that I thought maybe it would have been your favorite player. Would've been Philip rivers right so now here. You are in this position where you're following in his footsteps for You. What's been your outlook going into this. Knowing that you did so much for this organization we've watched so much of this film and it's incredible to watch. And the way he checked the scrimmage of the command e of the offense that's coach. I wants from his quarterback. So we've done a good job of watching him and it's been really impressive and I'm GonNa do everything I can to to play the way he played. We know that you guys have been doing these virtual off season meetings coach. Elaine has done a really smart job of splitting the rookies up. The East Coast guys are in east coast time. The West Coast guys are west coast. So you guys. Don't get up too early guy in Hawaii as well but for you would it. What's been the biggest obstacle talking to your team? It's just facetime. Yeah it's been tough to to get to know those guys 'cause you think about it you'd be here. It'd be in person with them. You get to make mistakes on the on the field and everything's been online so it's kind of been tough that way but we're doing everything we can to make up for that and whether that's throwing lifting running A lot of the guys ended up working out working out of the same weightlifting. Place I do. So it's it's been good to meet those guys as well. I've heard some head coaches with other teams have been testing their rookies. Trying to keep them on their toes to make sure that they're really absorbing all the information. Have you been tested on anything or put on the spot yet? I've had about a quiz every day. So just kind of going over the stuff that I've been asked about so. They're old accountable Sarah. La Let's go back to the time capsule survey. I've got a new one for you. Okay so little fortune telling again ten years from now. Justin Herbert wants to be known as like phyllida peddler a teammate again. It's always gonNA put the team. I can answer that being said off season even before you were drafted charges very set on tyrod Taylor being the star. They want him to leave this team. But it's still at the end of the day competition for you. What's your going into this? Are you trying to win the starting job? We've one or are you looking at it? As I'm I need to learn and grow and absorb as much information as possible can to become a professional athlete. How dishes great for all three. Listen to quarterback roommates Kennedy Great. It's going to push each other. I think everyone in that room wants to be the guy especially I I wanna be that guy But at the end of the day it's about the guy that's the best whoever's going to give the team the best chance of winning so whoever that is the opportunity all right thank you so much urban. Lhasa there at the end but thanks for joining. Nfl Live now. The good news is row to go from offense the defense here onto Kenneth Murray. Who started all forty two career games for the Oklahoma sooners now in twenty eighteen? He made twenty eight tackles against army which according to the NCAA record books is the most ever by a college player. Our Own Olympics team also giving you gave him a sixty nine percent chance to become a pro bowler in the NFL. That has the highest rate of any defensive player in this draft class and we know that the chargers wanted him on them and we are locked in on him now. He joins us. What's going on with you chargers guys. You're all bunch of psychics here. Herber said he wanted to be a charger. Eufor predict and you're going to be a first round pick in two thousand seventeen. How do you actually accomplish something like that? Do you just say it out loud? You Vision Board. What's the secret here? Man is just you know. Just just the goal just went out there and working towards it. You Know I. I said that goal in high school and and you know I wrote it down and put it over. You know. Ma Poster boards something seen every day and just continue to to his work at work at it every day in this point and rather than talking the talk and they're walking the walk there so we mentioned here that the chargers traded back into the first round. That actually grab you so they have really high hopes for you. Maybe even playing calls perhaps something that we know that you did in college. So how are you going about getting this playbook down while doing all this virtually and it has been definitely unique Definitely inaugural guys always been extensive about getting getting into the playbook and so for me GonNa Flash Cards on what's not no white boards all around You know shot to study the best way I can and try to get it down as quickly as possible again. 'cause I know in the day on the linebacker caller desens- some players in the NFL. Share that actually like these virtual meetings. Because they're comfortable you know. They're in their house. They're not sitting in a classroom board. Do feel like there's been some advantages where your guys going about your business this way. Well I mean I. I think it's been you know unique in this really. Just trump control we can control almond can do You know I definitely would like to be in on Mason. Going to know my coaches face to face but no. We're not if we do that right now so we have to take the best so. I think we're doing sounds like getting to know each other. It's going to be the big challenge as you guys are just meeting over your phones and hopefully it'll be really fun when you finally get to each other face to face. I WanNa go back to college here you set ncw record. Twenty eight tackles which I researched. Check it again. I'm like Oh shorts twenty eight. That's a Lotta tackles in one game. What the heck did you have for breakfast that day on a normal the normal versus? I pretty much the same thing for every game that game. I I do a war know. It will be a full battle. That's exactly what it was until I I the know what what team again break I in come out with a victory so I'm definitely wanted most from colors all right so you got a pretty tough schedule coming up with the chargers team. You guys got the Bengals Got Kansas City Carolina. You got the box you got the sun exactly an easy schedule So of those teams though that I just listed those first five games. What's that one game that you definitely want to make sure that your family you're very close to they're going to have tickets hopefully by then be able to come and watch you play which one of those games? I mean I'll take every game series looking at the scheduling. The Monday night game versus saints on no plan on Monday night football and so on to get the opportunity definitely again people would. If you have to be on Monday night football pretty good thing around here I can tell you. Speaking of family are really quick. Your family story blew up on the Internet especially when you shared it with Dallas cowboys owner Jerry Jones. That's actually how I learned a lot about you. How much do you think though that momentum and even that moment change the way the League view you as a man I take you know everybody takes account just what I've been through and things like that but it just shows you who I am as a person you know confirms what you see on field on the goddess passionate? I got it at cares for the game of football. Football means everything to you. Know you see that all suits just. It just confirms what you see on tape well. Congratulations on joining the chargers. Congratulations on all your success. And we are all very optimistic and we look forward to when you actually get to meet your teammates in person and hopefully we all get to meet one day to Thanks so much for joining the show. Talk to you soon. Thank you have. Ufc action on Saturday in Jacksonville Main Card here at nine o'clock eastern six o'clock Pacific with the Great Freedom Card starting at six o'clock eastern on. Espn can always check on the ESPN. Never too early guys ever twenty twenty fantasy. Football rankings are set following the NFL draft. So let's look back at the quarterback right kings step by six. Espn fantasies experts. All right so here we go coming in at number one. The reigning VIP e Lamar Jackson. Not only did he set the single season rushing record for quarterback but he had the second most points per any player in a Pr Lee Super Bowl. Mvp Patrick mahomes comes in at number two since becoming a full time starter in two thousand eighteen. His seven hundred and four point one fantasy points are the most common. Qb's then we've got rookie Tyler Murray. He became the six different quarterback in NFL history to throw for thirty five hundred yards and rushed for five hundred in twenty twenty. He's going to have the Andrea happy new weapon along with Larry. Then we got DAK Prescott yet a monster twenty nineteen as he hit career highs in passing passing touchdown to an Qbr. You also ten games at least twenty fantasy points and Shawn Watson number five second points per game last year but he now enters a season without the dre right because he's over in Arizona and that'll be the first time that the Shawn won't have hop in the last four seasons so Patrick Mahomes Twenty. Eighteen seasons ranked bushel timing quarterback fantasy points in a season while Jackson's twenty nine nine campaign ranked second but after those two sounds like we're not too sure. Check out last season's fantasy points per game rankings watching Stafford Russin brees all around that twenty one point Mark Right. So here's our expert to Matthew Berry Daniel Dolphin the fantasies show on. Espn plus with more as they debate. It's like I take care off. The Lamar Jackson show will continue in just continues to be red. Hot All right Matthew Berry Lamar Jackson. Patrick Mahomes are a clear. Top to the debate started three. Who's got your close Dak Prescott at number three? Listen Marie and Josh Allen have tons above Sidon Shawn Watson Russell Wilson? They're always going to be in this rate but for me it's Prescott who last year was actually third and qb fantasy points per game. Oh cool thanks for the history lesson old man. What will happen this year? I'll tell you my root sidekick Dallas Reciting Amari Cooper was huge for DAX value touchdown ever since the cowboys traded for Amari Dak Prescott fancy in terms of total points. And he's fourth in points per game and that's in part. Thanks to Dak. Success throwing downfield last year. Prescott was second among quarterbacks deep completions and third and deep completion percentage and now he adds cd lamb who average over twenty one yards attached last year at Oklahoma and don't forget Dax rushing he style since entering the NFL. Dak Prescott sport in rushing yards among quarterbacks. He has the most rushing touchdowns. I think Twenty Twenty Dak Prescott. We'll have the best season his career and I say we're out of time for this. I hear some other notable quarterbacks outside the top five since two thousand Seventeen Russell Wilson has the most fantasy points among quarterbacks but comes in at number six for the twenty twenty season new division rivals. Tom Brady drew brees. They come in at number eight and ten respectively. A number one overall draft picks. Joe Borough Traffic Joe Borough slides in at number nineteen. Which is the highest among all rookie quarterback? So let's our panel back on screen here. Tim also a fantasy football now. That here How high should be ranked among fantasy quarterbacks now threes probably a little rich for me but I think Matthew Berry makes them cases of you know a case of why he could be there and could have his best year statistically me to to rank him ahead of somebody and some of those names that you mentioned Diana Russell Wilson. I don't know why we would think he would have a worse year that he had a year ago with basically you look at the receiver Corey. He had a year ago going into the season. All those same guys back upgraded their little bit and so Russell Wilson kind of makes everybody better and I do think that there could be a massive bounceback year four. Tom Brady drew brees as well so I probably have them in the top five definitely top ten but three Jeff. How about you? Who You picking. I at quarterback Lamar Jackson our homes. I mean Patrick Mahomes but then again like I'm not the right person asked if you going to cook dinner my wife for Patrick Mahomes patrimony. If you were to ask me who would fix my car. Better the mechanic down the street or Patrick. Mahomes say Patrick Mahomes. So it's no slight to Lamar Jackson. It's just the Patrick Mahomes. Does everything better than anybody on the planet do yeah? I felt that same way about him. Being an analyst today against you so that's good so we're even there. Damian. Lewis ranks near opinion here. Who's too low day? We're slapping the face. Tom Brady Guy who would probably be working with the best weapons that he might have ever had in his career with Mike Evans and Godwin and Franck OJ. How would emigrate Listening Basketball Swan as guilty on a huge this year after I get that and you know speaking of Tom Brady guys his former to Jason and Devin mccourty? They were on get up this morning talking all about this upcoming season what they can expect of course. We know the defense looks the same but the quarterback much different. So what is life at you really going to be like without TV? Twelfth obviously Thomason a huge figurehead in organization's been there twenty years on. It'll just be more veteran guys. You know I think guys like Julian who haven't gone a ton of credit for his leadership. He's a God who will step up guys like James Light. David Andrew Glove been captains. They'll continue to lead on. But I think the biggest thing is we just gotTa be ourselves. We can't try to fill Tom's gap because we can't do that but it'll be a new regime. Annuity embraced have fun. Coming up next sixty jump followed by. I TAKE EXTRA. Jalen and Jacoby Cardinal End around the horn to our sports sportscenter at five o'clock. Pti guys they join the show at five thirty and then we cap today with sportscenter with us VP. Well it's a big day for birthdays. Happy Thirty first now now of Lucca near also happy thirty seventh birthday to Frank Gore now with the New York jets and a happy thirty four to clay matthews who is currently a free agent. So let's celebrate all three of them with rolling back to their best happy thirty first Robbie because here in Super Bowl fifty three yours star made the driving with sled. To the only touchdown in this super bowl patriots would go on to win and have a Frank Gore. Two thousand seven against the rams look to be stopped right on the line here breaks free and that's forty three yards. He goes all the way in for the touchdown. Now a New York jets by the way. That's his fifth team in the NFL. Five teams for him and happy. Thirty Fourth Matthews Super Bowl forty five. Go I play the fourth quarter. Matthews Forces Rashard Mendenhall to fumble and the packers. They're able to recover the ball here with Matthews with the Clutch. Tackle forces it in the packers. They go on to win the super bowl so good stuff have birthday. All three of you guys if now type drawing conclusions as we put a little bit of a bow on any topic in the show where to draw realistic conclusion to topic that we discussed today. So we're kind of problem solvers voice so tim. Let's start with you. He got well. I like this day because Damian communicates the other office of Lineman at Boston College record breaking contract that signs breaking contract right there. See those dollar signs Damian Phenomenal Artwork John Damian. That's way too much work wasting work listening. I'M HOLMES REPEAT TIN BE CHAMPS. Listen in a trend. Can all season where things are crazy? I'm born with the team. Has the best for the best quarterback when the best and it seemed virtually intact. I liked chances repeating the Patriots Mahomes Church twenty five in September. That's a lot there. What about you Geoffrey? I would tell you that my five year old drew this but that would be an insult to my five year old. I am not a good artist. I don't even know if you could tell with this is God is Gronk. Spiking the football And I believe that Gronk will be the twenty twenty comeback player of the year. This is a no brainer. Gronk is coming back with a vengeance combined with you all right. Well the birthday boy. You think he's going to have a good season. Last year's Comeback Player of the Year Ryan Tannehill Bill with Daniel Jones in the giants are going to win the NFC east. I'm going to cry myself as the best artists of this group. Sorry Tim good predictions for all. Of course I wish we could solve those problems guys. Nfl We'll see all to our thanks for hanging with us.

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Barber In Studio, HHH/Fury, Reyes, Danis, Lauzon, More

Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

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Barber In Studio, HHH/Fury, Reyes, Danis, Lauzon, More

"Today's episode of area hawaii's MA show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised gentlemen welcome to your camp ends that need to be answered coming off this weekend number one dominic grace chris wideman what a win for dominic rates he defeats chris wideman and the first route chris white men's the people are interested in of course we have corey anderson and johnny walker on deck in november and we've got DC st bay hopefully finding at some point next year there's tailspin for him and rock hold loses to bist being and that was kind of the beginning of a tailspin for him and they both moved up this year to five they both got knocked out somewhat brutally possible that he would never fight again widened gets knocked out in the first round and you can't help but wonder what happened to these two individuals and how different life was in a francis and guy new out there so there's a lot of options for john jones put that one on the poll mr corporate jake over there if you're still with us put on the ball who should john jones fight next should it be there's john jones want that fight he seems to be talking a little bit on twitter about being interested in it but also maybe you're going up to heavyweight he's testing the waters so to speak as far as on a collision course for a very long time like they weren't just going to fight once they were called the ended up getting booked to fight again at UFC ninety nine in that didn't come to fruition and then again fighting again wiedeman certainly did not allude to that in the cage only spoken the cage but it seems like he may need to take a break and maybe you need to reassess his route to john jones but that's the way you have see bookstore fights and that's the way they will continue to book their fight so now it seems like dominant graces in the driver's seat for john jones well spot as far as where he's fighting maybe one eighty five is better for him but you'll recall i said i did not like this batch of it i know that i'd say this each and every time i did not like this matchup 'cause i thought there was no need for chris whiteman a lot more sense an older pointed a show gun hooah a guy with the name maybe closer to his age and not a youngun who's just trying to knock them off and now it seems like both their futures are somewhat in doubt rock hold seems a lot more i don't know a lot more closer to welcome back to the program it's good to have you here on this lovely fall afternoon in bristol connecticut we got a lot to discuss a lot happening is always in the world of a lot of questions four years ago when they were fighting for the middleweight title four years ago december of two thousand fifteen they were the two best middleweights in the world and it seemed like they were going to be at MSG last year and that didn't come to fruition these two guys were the best and of course lew broccoli and wiedeman loss and that was kind of the beginning of later in the program of course there was the greg hardy situation i'm still confused about this my early taken i'm going to talk about it in the fourth hour when we do a little news and notes back in your life on this monday october twenty first two thousand and nineteen logan everyone i'm mary honi move up to two oh five unfortunately for him did not go well and it's kind of crazy a day after i spoke to luke rocco than he told me that it was quote very if i dominic reyes in his first fight to five especially coming off that lay off the next surgery and a recent knockout against shock ray soza to mean opponent over to share a segment for all of you but my take right now on this monday afternoon i think massachusetts may have jumped the gun on this one nowhere in their rules does it state you can't do what greg hardy dominic reyes winners corey anderson versus johnny walker winner of DC steep add heavyweight or let's throw out the wildcard francis and gun and then we'll check back in did now there was a lot of fumbles of the ball leading up to that point but i actually think they jumped the gun by overturning it so soon somewhat unprecedented do that that quickly to overturn something literally thank figure i know that i mean the baggage is just two tons in terms of weight but i really do think they jumped a couple of hours after the fight it was weird i mean marc ratner is on TV saying it's illegal the broadcasters legal where does it say what he did was illegal and i know this guy is not as barbara with a phenomenal performance joel lows on with phenomenal performance charles rosa with a big win although i think that he may have grabbed onto the cage there but hey it's like the great eddie guerrero said if you're not cheating you're not trying not to suggest he did that on purpose but it did seem like he was using the cage it didn't see it so it's hard to overturn that molly mccann randy cost that's my assessment right now but way more on that later on it was it was entertaining card overall the year rodriguez jeremy stevens fight which was great finally we saw that come to fruition sean brady brandon allen overall pretty good night for boston area fighters so that was friday with PF l. playoffs we've got a big weekend coming up with the u. of c. back in singapore velasco's talk as well so that should be fun stay tuned for that dylan danis made news last week helping out a youngster who was bullied in his school getting him some martial arts classes barbara join us in studio in about twenty minutes time talk about her rise to prominence but first let's say hello to our first guest of the day this man thirteen UFC finishes that's the most lightweight history fifteen wins is the fourth most in UFC lightweight history fifteen bonuses tied for second most bonuses in you three and a half or so hours let me tell you about today's lineup and then we'll get to our i guess of the day three forty pm will be joined by molly mccann meatball molly had a nice win on fridays on saturday there four hundred and ninety ninth event headlined by damian my versus ben ash grand there's a lot going on as always i'll talk about conor mcgregor later in the program as well so we got a lot going on i'll share some some news of you talk about a big show we have planned for your next week there's a lot happening so stick with us here and we're going to have fun for the next the pro and has looked very good in my opinion stoppage wins nine of them in the first round also joined by triple h and tyson three twenty we'll talk to him about the big win over wiedeman will he get john jones next what does he have to do is undefeated twelve in the UFC sixty no in the AFC tova nine history with nate diaz and it was the second one at the garden and there he is the one and only joe lausanne kind enough to join us joe how are you how's it going she's on a bit of a streak these days three and one now and the UFC always fun to talk to her and i also have a bone to pick with her so we'll get to that when we speak at three forty dominic reyes will join us has returned to the UFC as i fight in five hundred and fifty nine days was victorious on friday in his home state of massachusetts he's one of the legends of the sport nick after his big win over james vick while i've read that wrong and he'll be joining us at two twenty so stay tuned for that coming off a big win in tampa macy barber the aforementioned macy sorry at the same time they're they are tessier making his pro wrestling debut on october thirty first crown jewel in saudi arabia will talk to them about how this deal got done a little cain going really well congratulations on the win what is it about you fighting TD like it seems like i'm reminded of like the super mario brothers video game now your gamer my my knowledge of video games doesn't extend much camp wasn't that long really how long was this cat it was close i don't know suspect was april last year i'd say like november we started like really picking it out in like in january i think we've been living here why were you out for so long for so long so it's an takes time to me changes like it's not as simple as i've done this three times so i can i can reprogram it pretty easily it takes a long time so we added a dish australian coach starting to a new strategy okay so so obviously you like you need to make changes after losing three straight was there ever point where you thought you were done go stat but it's like you got the mushroom and power up and you're just like in total beast mode what's going on like what are you feeling when you're fighting out there just enough the crowd and everything was moons as i know he's a polarizing figure but a good thing that dylan dana's did a mench like thing if you will we'll talk to him about that at two forty a lot of you gave me crap for not having nico price on the program last week so i just an additional was it wasn't like it was a replacement was part of the delay because this card was in boston in other words if this car would have been an august returned in august old habits so i needed the time and to be clear this isn't platinum mike perry right they are different confusing furnaces coach chink program new skills strength with mike perry during a whole bunch of stuff there it just takes time it doesn't it doesn't happen fast you can't i've been doing it takes a long time to break on november your wanted to fight i talked to dana in in shock shelby unlike any december december the sense that they were trying to build jonathan pearce off of you i noticed you sit in the prefight like i'm not gonna let this guy get a w. off of me especially in my in my hometown essentially like did you the people because you've you've been with those same figures for so long you feel like it's an awkward conversation when you're trying to introduce new characters to the team no because it was like going into the last one that i lost you know we thought we'd done everything right we'd we'd made some good changes at that point and and i was so confident was going away we said over and over kicking knees or elbows things like that so i still work with the amaze on the boxing handsome but we've got additional coachwork outsmart kick defense and an elbows you feel like you've reached the point where maybe you're going to be used as a stepping stone and you're not really quite comfortable with that role just yet that's how every five is ever going to be the biggest thing was we had a really long camp but everything was great it was awesome boston fight home when you say a really long camp like i mentioned the five hundred fifty nine days i'm assuming you're getting the water was that something you specifically worked on for this fight to try to trap his arm like that it was very impressive to watch especially to see how long you're able to keep it for and i and i told him i want to fight and they will couples kind of dragging their feet and then i was thinking like march or april and that did happen then maybe july i pushed out just ask people for long time i had seen as my strength coach he's a he's a boxing coach he's a he's my boxing coach that's why you don't see much we need some more exaggerated changes so that's what we did we took time took time off game a good time to clear my head healed much of it you know stupid nagging annoying jews on his part the fact that tap because i feel like i would have kept like two seconds into that i prioritize my shoulders are not flexible i probably just after i saw that revis like that so it was amazing to see you fight in boston again because you're the only one who was on that car that was also the first ever boston card which feels like a century ago in fact a little more now i appreciate it a little bit more now i mean it's it's been saliva i was super motion lake so we had already been talking about it a lot but we had the same thing where you were just like throwing him around and just super strength also were you getting flashbacks of that time nine years ago as well when you're in there a little different there so it was it did happen in an eight ounce of boston card so that it was it made sense the week for october but a delayed a little bit but it was gonna happen regardless did he's in all kinds of stuff that just an extra like see may skin tell me so many everybody he can think of to keep my hands out but if i'm not getting my hands someone else to slap me around and give you the heads up yeah yeah nine years ago you've see one eighteen and the performance was like almost a mirror image you against gabe ruediger like the performance on friday it felt like had and we got after you're you're you're very loyal guy you strike me as a very loyal guy you have a lot of the same people that have been around you for a long time is it hard to bring in yeah i understand happens all times i don't know but maybe you understand you understand why yeah you noted in the post fight interview that you kind of like you rag on those guys who cry in the in the post fight interview and you'd want to be ones that what's wrong with crying i think it's great like it was it was just a really yeah i love that randy continues to hold up the photo of devon ways in and after the fact i think it's an amazing thing have i really good friends with demi carrier die a couple of years ago and he was like one of our main channel partners like he was one of our guy he would guard with us if you still around like he's just like super there was dominant both ways but with game it was like i was starting around on the ground and in all you know i felt like we started with stand up stuff i felt like my hands a lot better i let punches yeah i mean you've done this long enough but your first win in almost three years what does it feel like on the monday to get that feeling back after the losing streak like do you feel like you appreciate this culver first time like they weren't expecting me to be vulgar but i beat him so i used him as a stepping stone on timing every single fight ever gonna see that's what this sport is you know horns always stepping stone like everyone's always trying to build any ever see is someone else getting kicked in the face or submitted or dumped the head or something like that like it's that's just the sport we have is like that was it were you feeling that he might just tap from that he could've tapped for that but that wasn't what i was looking for everyone in the AFC is tough like i didn't expect does it had been so long fight back in boston i'm thinking about devin is just like it was tough it was like and then win the fight is it goes the fight goes perfect and i'm like on the verge of crying the entire time really is this on camera anywhere we haven't somewhere did you ever share it i don't know if we shared it i don't think we shared it we have it though i haven't okay and you annoyed i do i do i still think it's a bad look i'm mad at myself for crying a little bit but i can't i guess some regret was that the i felt like i was just saying composure the entire time like i just i felt really good i felt in control every second so that photo right over there like when you have his arm trap i have to ask you about the the post fight stuff so dana white said that you guys had a deal that you would retire with a victory this accurate did you have the steel and did you break the deal opposition was not something where the dow dot like i love to clinch with people take down different trips throws so the the throw hit him with the determine your entire career that you've ever cried after fight i think my wife see me cry like twice ever legal my dog died when my son was born i think that's about it that's really pick up on that but that's that's something we've been working on so that was your fifteen to win as a UFC lightweight and i know that it's kind of common for you to win ah we don't win this one and we'll probably done this is the end of the line and then the last one i'm like oh i don't i don't really think of that you know i think we need to you know be a little bit more we're very watching him a little bit but that was it wait a second burt watson keeps her wedding and that led you to cry because it was closing the door is all i'm saying usually it's like when you have a fight it's like there's location opponent in date in generally has to get to get to them you're in good shape you take the fight after that you know he he he i'm sure his shoulders really sore bruised more so about to control you know if he can't get his up without he can't get his easy can't tiny can't you can't get away he was unexpected like i wasn't like i don't get emotional things usually but then you know they're doing intros that constantly on the microphone like all my coaches they set it up he was coming they sent somebody sent you to the airport picked him up for the wedding no idea wow it was pretty cool we care about we don't want you to get hurt you as my coach does not want you to fight and which is true mazes don't want me to fight and i kept pushing pushing pushing i say look i'm going to do aside is the end of the career that this end zone is the end where are you right now on that field i'm in the red zone okay i don't think that you know i don't so when i texted dana i told dan look you know give me one more shot if the fight does not go well i promise you'll never hear from me again and that's what has he said deal it was something we worked on a lot a lot of people miss it too but i hit the body was confirmed he was going down i kind of jumped up and try to spite my shoulder in his face a little bit and different things if i do these things are you kidding me fighting they came up with this big extensive list of things i wanted to do and i did every single bang so that like okay we'll let you fight it to me but i said hey if it doesn't go well i'm one hundred percent done and he said deal so that was that was it i understand you know he his mind all then expected heavy crowds we did he do that whole thing like it's time to roll and all that you didn't expect it is that what happened when you walked out yes kid so there was a lot of stuff going on and like just because it was like it was such it was in the forefront of everything we're doing very walkout like virgil tears like wait walkout inaccurate okay man earned i don't change anything i so i dan dana said basically the gist is that i wanted to fight he said you know we if that's the end of the nets yeah that's cool that's great if you know i'm just not gonna commit to it just yet okay let's say your career was a football field and you're going from this side to this side the have six more fights but maybe one or two maybe not like i'm not you know my jiminez well my gym sinisa massachusetts link and all of the is around you england they all come to me like the guy driving from hours away two three hours away come and train with us every saturday morning rod flying cater dan powell people dragged from ever but i'm just not gonna i hate when people all retired and they you know they come back you know six months eight months a year later in so i'm just gonna i don't want to go on san retire but unlikely boxing coach teammates doesn't want you to fight are there other members of your team who say the same and is it hard to get them on board when they're saying openly we don't want you to keep doing this if i'm gonna fight again it'll have to be perfect austin opponent like the date but we'll see maybe i'm okay i mean i i don't think i can add it better than we did so aw because i think too many guys like the way to translate understands and i think more fr losy do one more boston like there's no better way to end this i understand like you know the deal i i definitely understand but i'm just not i'm not one hundred percent like that like you know i've had a whole bunch of fun tonight so i'm not looking for those fights i'm not trying to end up in the hospital i want every fight to be like friday was you don't go there don't take you down beat him up you never make a decision when you're emotional not make any big decisions because it happened i really what i was going to do like i didn't know i was going to you know boil i'm sure we'll talk about it again i wanna fight again i'm sure off to deal with david with dana so we'll say yeah they might not they might not just ever offer you a fight again they're just gonna freeze you out now stoppage like you know i do that all the time and if i could guarantee now happen every time they'd be on board with me anytime i wanted but just fighting again but we'll see not ready to hard percent be retired just yet did you talk to dana after the fight did he say yeah what was my retirement announcement i texted always he's gonna wanna do it again you know about day at either what does your wife say she is super supportive whatever wanna do she knows she knows she sees me training aw no it's the big thing is if i'm not if i'm not going to be prepared to fight and they don't wanna see me get hurt which i understand that i don't want to new york hospital not not saying anything now i wanna talk about devon in the post fight interview i just did 'cause i would've been waterworks right away so we didn't get into it but i would just you know i always text thank you see opportunity you know i was expecting our time we speech and i heard about comments yet okay so i submission as an expert you're the expert you have a problem with that like should that not counted him holding onto the cage with his toes like that heart she sees me doing everything i can to prepare she's on board you know she doesn't wanna see anymore you know and he fights like ago right things they'll be like that but like even like despite we watch the next day and he was kind of paying attention what he's life doesn't he doesn't quite get it when he when he gets older i think you all he goes i've had some fights that were kind of wars but my coaches were they were all on the same page instead if i did you know certain things and then they're on board with refunding yet and i did achieve so supportive she's so good i'll my second son was when she got pregnant my second son jake she didn't tell me till after the fight she like we can have before she didn't tell me because you don't want to distract me she just south i hope at some point he realizes how good your performance was i just wanted to ask you about something because you're so smart when it comes to this stuff you know i mentioned the randy cost shirt like he's gonna want it again you know he i think he wanted me to have like a a tougher fight in a win in the end but when i go out there and blows out than now might might okay i'll ask them then i'll i'll start photoshop and stuff in post instagram and i'll just talk shit like oh it's okay all right the cable being careful down like are you know come up with the place NHL gems while gems doing very well so i don't i don't eat to fight it's not like it's a money thing i just i of super competitive i was super grab onto the cage so i think in that regard i think it's okay i also don't think charles is a hundred percent in control it's facing ring out wrestling if you know great from a game chemotherapy he's all the cancer's gone but it damages hearing a little bit so he has like some monitoring author just kind of a big deal but he the happy things you always talk about early is good as your last fight like i was super happy with my last fight i'm very happy with my with my life right now so so maybe maybe we'll get with the done will who says you're doing great but he just wrote to us joe needs a new chair so what's going on with this chair jim he does great he he's he's a trooper awesome does he go to your fights he wants to the democracy fights ago in brooklyn oka- he didn't really understand i have a great relationship with with everyone like again you know it's not going to be like an overnight decision was is it awkward like you mentioned your longtime and so they were all given it as never been so happy to be wrong you know they they showed a clip after the fight where like the rest stops it just puts his face down like she's super wife she's awesome how's your older son doing your oldest yoga you'll be sick today he still get here here's but his hearing is we started like a three to five year old class that i teach for all of our kids we call tainting ju jitsu so he understands like a lot of the moves and things like that now so he was like there you have it from the expert himself and i'll take his word for it so that was a great performance or a ton of great performances let's say hello to another person who had a great you could bring the microphone right over there to you it's okay we have those things thanks for coming macy thank you that's my velazquez toy is up there but it's yeah you should have went on the other side that's right yeah all right all right okay it adds character congratulations on that win man it was great to see and by the way just one all you know i like seeing the emotion all right i think it's great to see a little motion so don't beat your beat yourself up too bad about that enjoy i'm just saying it's macy's barbara's here how great is this hello may see how are you we like to just have people walk in we don't take commercial breaks on the show you probably know that already all right thanks for doing this show all the best you congrats and you all right there is joe lows on big win for him and yet at the top i said randy cost i meant to say charles rosa with that submission happens it doesn't it doesn't matter okay good insight there by the way i have a tweet here from callum earl i like a good crying session here and they're kinda i'm kinda hated for that these days but hey that's just me congrats enjoy it and if this is the end thank you for everything but aw yes well i appreciate you doing this and in fact i'm like i was nervous about you like i don't root for people to win inappropriate but your dad is a very small it is i have a great share house but it looks comfortable but you were on ESPN here joe we expect a little he can't see that's all i have a feeling you're you're leaving the door open which by the way i respect as well a lot of fighters they retire and then they come back and it's all very confusing no one's forcing you to say having me just it's great to have you here welcome to bristol connecticut ESPN first time this is my first time we actually drove here from boston what do you think it's beautiful kind of leaned forward a little bit put it pushed through you know i don't think that rosa was trying to put his toast you to get leverage i think in the referee didn't see it so i don't think it matters regardless of what a guy and i enjoy working with him and he helps me get in contact with you he reached out to me like a month and a half or two months ago once you're out and said hey we're going to be in the area it's great i mean it feels it feels great and i came out of that fight uninjured super happy nervous about that i was i think that was one of the biggest things i was i was nervous for but i felt relieved after the fight was just you know i didn't wanna come out and not be able to go back to the jim so that was one of the biggest things was the can macy come after the fight and i was like yeah for sure but don't we have to have the fight for what if you lose you know things can happen complete confidence like you guys book this here i mean the trees and the leaves they're changing so i think it's a great time to come out it's like a sports wonderland you big this capital my ashes it does he requested i failed i i didn't do my job but he requested takedown tribal joke for jesus i knew that i wanted to put in that i'm staying undefeated on one of my hands but other than that i actually broke i if something pop up in six months or a year and it has come out you know whatever so i'm just leave their open we'll see what happens if you don't have to be you know everything to light out for me to do it again but we'll see i'm sitting there i don't have it all planned out but it's usually when i have house wrapping my hands i i start to think of some things or i just grab a sharpie from someone and i'm like i start writing on my hands and next morning i woke up and i'm like man i could go to the gym tomorrow this feels amazing like in the camp were you thinking about it a lot no i wasn't some kind of something that i started but i write on my hands and i read on my raps ing my gloves or just like whatever your whatever comes to my mind when like the trash talk was intense but she was very confident as well and she was feeling yourself as she should have been choose coming off a nice win like it felt like this was this representative i feel like i should i talk a lot of crap in and i do a lot of that i don't necessarily play into everyone else's i feel like it should be you know okay they have like gonna wipe the wall you can't see what they've read on the walls destroy everything but i mean the chair is like really beat up i mean i don't want to give them any advantage whatsoever so kind of ignoring it was the was the route i took and i had a lot of people always sending me stuff like oh did you see she sent you this she said russell obviously randy costs charles rochon excuse me i think it's okay i think that the rule is that is not you can't put your fingers through or your toes you sit you cannot feel that from her and were you using that as motivation going into this fight i definitely was using ass motivation but i didn't really play into it because i don't want to give people the credit okay with that in your career right like the next chapter you were fighting a different level of opponent and this was the kind of opponent who was going to give you the toughest of your career did you listen to any of the things that she said did so good jillian was on a bit of a roll and i also feel like this was the first time and correct me if you feel otherwise where like of your career right like the first time you had surgery that was the first surgery at my career yes the fight before the i partially tore my knee so i came from one injuries and the next save after the vine did it with whatever i was kinda i kinda stayed the course hot not you know deciding either way but that was like you know nearly crime is out so on losing shell when i plan on winning so and then we saw your gloves afterwards you wrote a no or someone wrote it who wrote that i did you wrote that so you're you're in we talked about we were like well we're we're going to be like really close so might as well go out there and and i don't book a fight knowing planning on planning like put a cross on it and i was like all right i gotta put electra electra love into this hand because you want to come out of this by uninjured so it worked how was it now oh ignore everything on social media so i go on do my business and then i get out okay unique comments and things like that no you don't check on her at all this she posted this and i was like i don't wanna talk about it you know i'm going to the gym going to train so on one hand i do go out i post a lot of stuff on social media but at the same time i also biggest cheerleader than than who is you know so yeah that's that's kind of where the confidence comes from as i used to be myself my mind if i know that i'm going into a fight like you have to be my first coach told me this ryan schultz he told me you have to be your your your cheerleader you're your own cheerleader club every once in a while and once he told me that i was like no never again you know 'cause i have to be on my side all the time so you heard duke rufus and the rest of the team different due to fix every mistake that they made in her previous fight so if i go and watch the film myself i'm going to be looking for things that she's she's done in the past in that this is my first camp full campus bar and honestly i'm happy with where i'm at how did you end up there how did i we moved to wisconsin to to train and over and over in my head every single night all the way up until the fight so yeah if i lay in bed and i started to watch film then i'm going to really have a hard time falling asleep this defeat ever is over oliver fights and then come and present those to me and then we'll we'll pick up and train off for those but i don't want to obsess over something that could all play the fight in my head and actually have to work for the finisher i'll have to work through a scenario rather than just going out and just completely dominating so it's like i fight that fight over okay so i don't wanna be relying on something that she's not gonna show if if she's constantly improving so i kind of leave that up to my team and my coaches to find out the habits that she can continuously times during the camp but i just came into this feeling really confident in where i was in i was ready you know so it's hard to let end i don't let doubt and but a it's all work you know you just know you're ready i just know i'm ready yeah i came into that fight i wasn't even nervous into this last fight you know i had it if you i've said this on multiple interviews before it comes from a lot of the hard work that we put in you know it's not just me that puts in the work it's my team my family my coaches they have at that team and it's like why would i not give this this camp a chance right so i did and i couldn't be happier duke rufus is is phenomenal ben aspirin i mean everybody at rufus sport it's just an amazing team in i came into this fight feeling one hundred percent ready and your your biggest fan because some point in your life you're always gonna have you're always gonna have people who are trying to shoot you down and if you're not you're your biggest fan and in your mind is there a time there is not a single night that i laid in bed and my hand wasn't raised at the end of the night at the end of the fight i may have and that was when i could sit down and i was like all right now i have time to think about it i should probably give another chance and you look at all the credentials i'll start to think about it i picture the fight in my head and replay it and in my own head and i actually like play the fight out and i'm like all right this scenario this scenario and some nights like all land assistance and they talk about how they're going to do XYZ like we saw it without a sonya recently he's talked about doing x y and z and he's done it all what does that come from is that just something that you were born with ed and the fight will be perfect and all like see it clearly of like how i would win or how i can win or or how each round would go and then other nights it's like had to work a little bit harder in my head to to get that win but it was always i come out winning were you know like i wish your confidence is so oppressive cannot be shown in the fight but like you're you're sitting you're in bed you're trying to yo let me pull a youtube and i won't sleep really i wanna sleep if i knew that watching him yeah okay i it's hard for me i can't even imagine what my family goes through but it's hard for me to watch people that i know care about an especially my brother i mean it's it's crazy you can't go in that you can't do anything for your very helpless and you can't you can't like throw a strike you can't change a position you can't you know which i jumped back because i wasn't had i didn't have my heart fully set in wisconsin yet so i got offered the fight i went right back to colorado jim i camp there and then i had the surgery for sport in your corner is this the team now so i feel like you've you've you've been around i have been everybody's like you've been jumping from gym to gym and was this your first time with and feeling like there was no question in my mind of anything like i wasn't concerned about any position wasn't thinking about like oh what if she does this after the flight and i'm wondering if any of his fight promotions skills has rubbed off on you a little bit have you talked to you about the art of you know he's great this right now we've talked about the psychology behind how to build your career call it the right people make some headlines do you speak to him about that stuff we have does this i was ready so i can't wait to have another camp just like that and i'm happy with where i'm at afford you lou from milwaukee i'm kind of emerged yeah i got a first round finish he did he won i was in his corner and i cried it was very emotional for me probably more nervous for that than your own fight green i'm like fifteen minutes away i was gonna say i'm kinda in between here and there but i can't really explain it probably wouldn't know no your sibling a little thing with your dad booking you to come writing that i'm trying to say that you're the only coughed info UFC this is something we've seen from a lot of the greats right they almost like will these things into art so you mentioned been aspirin it seems like perhaps he's taking you under his wing a little bit i was tired i didn't know that you guys were working together then i kind of went back and looked but i was talking is i mean if you look at the last three that i've had hannah ciphers that was not an early stoppage jay eldredge that was not an early stoppage and same thing with jillian i mean leaving and i wouldn't wanna be hit by me any more than she did so personally i think it was a fine stoppage so the way i look at it is if i go on and i watched her film and i expect someone to kind of treat a treat it you know if i go out and i watched film i'm expecting them it has a seven year old is an eight year old or is this something that you worked on over your outspoken person but in terms of the confidence fight any of these girls so that was kind of like the biggest thing but yeah in terms of promotion like he's he's taught me a lot and just being able to speak with someone that was not an early stoppage i mean you could say it's an early stoppage if if you wanna let her have some more brain damage but there was no getting out of that and it was all right but yeah i definitely should be up there now we have the clock how how far away is she from the milestone that she's trying to reach we have this corporate jake there ben aspirin to wisconsin i did i moved we moved it last november wow and then right as soon as my last fight so against JJ who has that kind of mentality is like just listening to someone like that talk i pick up a lot so so this is your first time working with them yes this is my i did this camp with him i feel like we we get off the train a little bit right i kind of actually just only because i feel like as long as you're you're consistent fighter and you're you're still staying in and i think november twenty second pro amateur i believe maybe pro well it was the first one go it would good you know he got that i buy out of the way he only gonna get worse from there so why why let them take that much trauma you know she's twenty four years old she's got a she's got a whole career of her and if i was on the right no way i could see in the next the next year so next year like this time next year you have fought for the belt i would like to yeah okay move as well my whole family moved removed just for you my brothers well brother wyatt barber he's he had his first fight so he's actually going to fight against soon so i feel like pretty smart as but he's added a lot to that you know it's like we were texting back and forth all day yesterday all day today of like all right well you know in in the talk of the fans and you're you're staying consistent you're keeping the winds i think you're fine but i mean right now i'm happy with twenty five so what you're gonna say and here's this you're gonna call out and who's this and and you know i mean we talked about different people but at the same time we were also talking about how i'm not afraid three hundred days and we can revert back to this that you broke five hundred days i mean to crush better integrate what do you think what's your prediction now you're not going to go down to the wire whether i'm healthier not like that's just a phenomenal place to go in and get physical therapy nutrition that diagnostics like everything is countdown to january fifteen thousand and twenty two eight hundred seventeen days away to become the youngest champion UC history are we are we on track still achieved every week but we're should you have been going into that fight you think number one i mean actually believe i am number one i looked at those those numbers and i saw sean o'malley whereas he whereas the like i haven't seen him fight in in how long in i'm below him so i don't know i i thought i should have been up there share a couple months ago as you may know asked her about you wanna play the clip for those who may have missed it and then we'll get your reaction to it okay here's patriots in just a couple of months ago validity disrespect being disrespectful ended this okay being disrespectful person should not be valued i definitely won't okay i won't and i plan on finding the next one i want twenty-five we'll see about one fifteen you know that's all up to the performances too as well because they're the ones that have been helping me with this this whole journey of i do think that there are certain disrespect in the UFC and MMA gets too much attention in it gets too much this program talking about macy by the way see barbara taking shots off always i don't know i think it's just part of the division after every site and then usually all book a trip every like four or five weeks there and make like a couple of days so after the of course you talked about page let's go of going builder i've after every i'd go there for at least a week i usually book that trip out like right away survey okay so a lot there what do you think of all the first of all how many times did she stutter in that in that whole bit so many flights is that how many more fights and i think that's probably two or three okay i feel like we need to stick to one twenty five i heard you talking about one fifteen if you bounce up and down up i think you ended up six salty we wrong about virtue goes to change it now that you've seen last by on any connected her line though she did i told them are the UFC brass into this what are the like you've see want this fight as well to the best of your knowledge is i know yeah we all want it everyone everyone wants except for page okay so which is understandable page was sitting in this completely inappropriate to slide into somebody's husband's DM's get a fight she did that yes so there's no story worse in his backyard like the whole thing set up wow it's it's amazing so obviously the headline after the by the way were you okay with the stoppage he thought it was and it's free i mean as a as an athlete why wouldn't you take advantage of that you know they're only trying to help you and they have an amazing team out there and yeah so i go eat them up and i've said this before and the fact that she can't beat me up as why she's trying to come up with an excuse that's my opinion in terms of the d. so twenty one now right you're twenty one we actually the thing last week top twenty five under twenty five fighters in DC this i don't remember where you right there and in terms of disrespect gosh if i didn't like someone and i thought they disrespected me i would really want have you done the gulf in his house now i haven't but i've been to his house time and he took me around show me the whole course i've actually never played this gulf so it's an actual i want to know a workout routine did you work out that you're doing it doesn't even weird anyways was this in the midst of her calling you out really i'd say so wouldn't you i kind of feel like it's going a little quicker than i thought yeah right i mean to be happier with that number knowing that that's how long i have in which is fine i mean the other thing that was going to say is i lost what i was saying something about her being disrespectful or meeting she said you you've been disrespected eh you know i didn't have the days you don't have it on your phone any deal but it's like years and months and eight seventeen away what did to be amazing if you get in of course everybody wants the money and there's just there's people in line so are you interested in that fight i think definitely isn't interesting fight austin said was it was for work i remember sitting with coach we were looking at like different workout videos and it just so happened to be his instagram i didn't even pay attention i spend so i saw some people say i've see you're you're happy with it but what did you think you know i've heard a lot of people saying that it was stopped too soon and then i've heard a lot of people saying oh let me see barbara always gets these early stoppages thank you very craft you did this all on your own yes take me like two minutes and laugh to my butt off about it now what is that someone is sending you hear someone suggest like hey can i get that radio like i didn't even think anything of it because along with us i couldn't even tell you honestly i know okay did you respond now okay and as i've stayed relatively quiet about this but it's like no i'm not going to reward disrespectful people it would be a reward for her to fight me and the UFC b-actor and they gave her all of these the support and built her as an athlete and were they viewed her as okay here's a here's a girl oh who's who's beautiful and talented and she's well spoken and she has all these things and we think she can fight right so they built her up let's see the fight because of the disdain that she has she spoke my name and she talked about our our little controversy here so i feel like she gave me the time of day and she kind of took the bait and she why her at first it was really just a fight that i really wanted viewed her as another big followings he's got a you know she has all of the created a story that a lotta people wanna see you know because it's like the battle between the two girls are having some beef so yeah where does this come from the social media and the fans that that a lot of people wanna see and then the way i look at it is and i've said this before she didn't hold up the deal you know she she came into the UFC i view it as someone like that girl that girl so beautiful she doesn't even belong in in the position in the AFC that she's in because so many other girls out there like me who work our butts off day in and day out i would tell her so i wanna take that from her you know i want i want to go the only reason why i wouldn't get this fight if she decided to retire from finding okay and then i feel like right there is where her social media and her ability to continue to grow on instagram make more money kind of stops it kind of plateaus because the reason why she's that high of a profile person is because of what she's done uh-huh i was just like a that was like her only grab an excuse to not vote really happen did i really saw yeah and it was exactly what furred you to her yeah i mean we've talked about it several times we tried to get her to fight me i offered to her when rachel couldn't fight at the time taken the bait now i'm going to take the bait and that's why i've seen stayed relatively slightly entitled entire time i actually was going to say yes to the fi and wow so you when you posted that did that did they respond to you at all does this not true to the matter if they ignored you since page yeah no they've ignored me posting on instagram from sponsors ads than fighting in the US's so do you feel like she just may never come like you won't get this fight because of that i mean i think that not that i know of but i even went back and tried to find that because i was on a screen shot and send it to you they deleted it so there's is being disrespectful and and that's yes she didn't want to take the bait how did she not take the bait she took the bait did she not take the bait well i will admit i feel like most people and with the UFC so without that without fighting and doing what she was originally doing i mean i think that people are going eventually kind of be like all right well she was there and now she's gone so she and held up into the deal and i think that's kind of kind of where ends have you ever met her i have i met her one time when when you absolutely nothing to do with you yes absolutely she has not wanna fight has one fight left on our deal yeah right she said on the show that she makes more money can't get page is there anyone else that you're calling people out in knowing what you want there's a few names we've looked at the rankings and colder under the deal she didn't continue to evolve as a fighter in instead she fell into the fame and scrape for her that's the past she wants to take but there's several girls but honestly anyone in the rankings i'm not afraid to fight any of them so bring it on like the rest of the class right now is me a message i they sent me a picture because page took a picture of my team so it was like all right we're fine like yeah i wanna fight you i know that we want to go back and forth but i thought we were all right so she thinks you're like creeping on her on her husband she doesn't like you i think i think that was her only excuse she knows i'm not creeping on her husband i don't want her husband she can have him so has the UFC i've been non stop talking to them about getting and what did he say they're working on it i think they're working on it pretty hard we'll see now let's just say worst case scenario yeah why not i mean she's getting older and i'm continuously getting better and yeah i mean as far as other other women coming up i haven't seen any really a complete joke i was just mocking her because i thought it was hilarious some some guy yup some someone sent me a screen shot and i switched it and i put his instagram handle at the top and then the rest of the divisions pretty wide open yeah so do you feel like by the time you make it to this date whenever you're going to break this record that john jones said that she'll still be the you feel like the fans get uncomfortable when a woman talks trash like you do like that they feel like oh that's a man thing to do and the female fighters shouldn't act like that they shouldn't talk so you just you just met messaging my husband on instinct i don't know trying to beat me try to you i'm sure like just talking smack in the DM's now like there's no one out there even if three or four times that can give her a tough fight i think so you know you wanna be the one to beat her all quite i feel like the gap between valentina and the rest of the class is the biggest as far as anyway class in the UFC you know what i mean like she's just that much you know just just keeping herself composed and not putting yourself in a bad position but liz never really tried to go after her and take that fight from her i wasn't looking tender series and on the same card as austin which again is another reason why i thought sliding into DM's it'd be okay because they sent me through instagram they actually i completely agree i completely agree that is a valid statement she is a dominant champion and no way to prove that unless they have it she could totally go and post it like go for i don't care post that you posted on i think we have it that was a joke where you posted rachel was able to fight so obvious that it was like okay let's fight she's good but we've tried several times when i went in the back and i talked with dana he was like well how about wins that me a just saying i mean they sent their dog and then hey come on yeah i thought it was pretty clever i thought it was hilarious the bigger person or bigger name that you become more hate you're going to have that follows that from other fighters some of them are going to like it some of them are going to hate it in terms of women i think a lot of the so i don't i think it's a little bit of i don't know if it's jealousy or or what but but i think it's it comes from an uncomfortable position from the female fighters feel like i like for example jillian she was like her mouth gets her a lot of places i think the reason why a lot of women say that is because they can't do it page and i was like yeah let's do it and then he was injured last time that she was still injured had to have surgery so we kind of talked to them on friday about about this that as much as people may like it also find the you get a lot of hate for it as well i think the more the higher up you become on social media or the the make money and build this is because i can and intern that's gonna help UFC that's going to help me so it's kind of a win win for everybody you feel like you're getting a lot of their own personality and i think it's something that the all the women's divisions need actually they need kind of like that bad guy the people you admire bits and pieces there's like bits and pieces from conor mcgregor from ben from like a lot of different athletes you know there's just some some clever aiming for me you know like i do have a a genuine like enjoyment for for the banner back and forth and for the the making try to try to fight the other person they're supposed to bring the fight to you and they're supposed to try to take the belt from you right so i thought that she fought was very smart in the sense of aren't by your side throughout the career i'm sure get stressful as at times sometimes you know the parents are sitting in the stands not in the locker room or helping to manage the careers what does the bad girl so i think i kind of filled that role and i liked doing it because it's something i enjoy causing a little bit of drama and and it's more all right they're not afraid to say what they want in the weight of you is i shouldn't be either because at the end of the day all i really want to build a successful career and feel uncomfortable so yeah they're people you watched or still watch like as inspiration league are there are people that you like that guy that knows how to do right like the trash-talk building up like for you it's a lot i actually had my entire family out with me so for this fight even i even my sister fly out but my family the things they say but it's kinda hard to like repeat them because you don't want to necessarily repeat them but you're like okay i could take that put in my back pocket and save river for another i don't know if there's any in any other promotions that could potentially be signed but i haven't done too much extra research would you think for against me mm-hmm but everyone's different you know like some people can do it some people can't and and it's just what it's it's what they are you know it's it's you always wanna make your family proud so i know the sacrifices that they put in to me and i know the effort that they put in and that's that's always kind of on the back of my head so that's why it gets i want to necessarily feel like some of the pressure even though they're like there's no pressure you know it's it's you and and we support you one hundred percent but at the same time i'm like you always want to make your parents proud sometimes but i wouldn't want any other way you know i mean i have my brother he was a he was the biggest trading partner i had for this entire camp and we were actually writing it over from the hotel de la venue and he put a post up on instagram and it was it was saying how for the first time ever he was not nervous and he's like the biggest one that gets the most it's honestly something that i will try to forever it's a very common thing in boxing you often see father coaching or cornering his view i thought that that was a smart fight for her to fight because you know she's as a champion you're not supposed to go out there and just like a from a perspective i think they could have been like that was a boring fight that was bad you know but for me i'm like wow that was that was a smart move on her team in her play right trash do you think they'd like that or dislike that you get the sense you get because i noticed when i say that you're on the show people like she's big mouth and all this stuff she thinks that she's so great do get a lot of hate very close you know and so some days i feel i feel good and i can talk to them and then other days i'm like man i just i just need a little bit of breathing space just because i don't want to from sponsors and stuff now do you are you getting a lot of attention or people on the bandwagon i am but i could always use more you know i'm working on deals but but i'm definitely open to getting some more now what is it like you're closer dad your dad non your corner though right he's not he was in the back with me though so i mean this is an interesting thing having nervous out of everybody in my family and he put this post up and he was like all the nights that you would be in the head and all the days that we went and had pokey together and on his his his his boxing son not as much information 'cause like that yeah there's there's been tons garcia but there's not gnaws much in to know and be smart about it and i surround myself with a lot of good people and obviously my dad's a part of that and so i think that him and i make a great team together and talk to go off on your own no i don't think i think i think as time goes on we'll get a little bit not farther away but like kind of it's not mind because interesting we're just so close and i i really want them there and and that's something that i hope is is there forever and and i can't see them ever leaving my corner either it's kind of like a it's an un unsaid desire yeah unspoken desire for both of us to just continued relationship forever it's like clockwork every time you fight i'll get like three or four messages for managers who manages macy is a silhouette like everyone this could be the way we'll go for the rest of your career because towards the end you don't see it as much i know a lot of fighters who started off with the the dad in their corner but then for some reason they're kind of separate i'm not trying to to will that upon but you feel like this is good now because you're so young and just figuring things out but at some point it will be better for you no more space like i moved out of an apartment and i have my own space in terms of that but if ever comes the day where my family's not in my corner it'll be by speak getting more i feel like you know honestly i feel like i could take a little more but it helps it helps oh as manager i could always go back to me like dad i need your help and even even without my dad like my moms are two you know and and she's she's there as well and i'm wondering if you feel like this do you want to at some point you think it won't be the case you feel like this is good for now because you're so young early in your career or do you feel like and it's not just him it's me too but he's he's the big part in it you know and i know that if my dad wasn't like management like have that in writing washer film for this fight really is that a common thing the reason why i do because i obsess over people in i obsess over the fight probably not something a log managers want to hear but if i didn't have my dad as a manager i don't know if i'd have a manager because i feel like my parents have raised me well enough the sharks they know everybody's like all men her dazzling manager and i mean honestly that's a good team because if i didn't have in this it's a family thing and i'm not looking for a manager okay there you have it so that was i aldea managers out there trying no doubt about he like made this a long post and i'm sitting in the in the buzz on the way to the venue bawling my eyes up like it's just we it's a very big in close family thing for me and it's eh inspiration more confidence right that's okay and also when you listen to a lot of these guys one back that was my first fight back on my new contract oh look at you so i have another one and then we'll probably associate you like the the current deal i do yeah i'm getting a discount so that was your third fight in the u. of caesar one more on the fight contract usually four fights start off or i signed from the contenders two fights in the renegotiated her training and nutrition and all of that that's really what all my my my show my win everything goes towards his i'm just investing back in myself trainings it would help with training honestly i feel like i'm underpaid in the sense of i would like to be able to afford to pay for for better coaching and better you and they showed them iconic things from the nineties boy they wanted to know if they knew what these things were okay so like i said i was in tenth grade in one thousand nine hundred truly want to be the best in the world and if and i need that takes money you know that takes sponsors that takes money that takes effort and that's why i feel like getting paid what i was sixteen years old when you were saying things in the nineties late nineties yeah i know but still you're right it's still counts corporate rate we're going to have to make a decision together and i don't really have any like fears of fighting any of them so but yeah title game with you i feel mine actually stole this from our NBA team as well where this this summer they spoke to a lot of the rookies who are born around the same time as deserves a chance and i feel like i deserve a chance i deserve a i deserve a lot of credit for the fights that i've had in the i also feel like i'll fight any of them i'm not i don't need necessarily pick out just one final picking up multiple people because i know at the end of the day like we're going to all have fun there's something about it it's like the person is just so beat up that they can't even fall to the ground so kudos thank you anyway i'm i wanna i wanna play a wow okay well done you know a lot of the rookies didn't know this do you know what the thing that the tape is going into is called UCR wow more would just truly helped me out more by the way if the patriot doesn't materialize for whatever reason what do you think of you versus antonina shevchenko kind of like i haven't seen anyone kind of target preview people get very upset when when the younger fighters talk about valentino like molly mccann got all kinds of hate for this saying that she could she take that fight against like how dare you talk about it and there's a lot of people are like oh well you don't get smashed or you get you know like union belong in the cage with her and i disagree i feel like everybody terms of in tunisia and took antonina sem tanko yes i see do you know do you know the company that you're you're with your three fight you have seen knockout streak is tied with amanda nunez and chris cyborg for the longest by female fighter and i believe in one thousand nine hundred ninth grade i was like i was a man by that point you were getting born and now here you are knocking people standing the standing TKO that's always is not a thing anymore no i think i think you could cut up a tape measure and get one that's true when i was in elementary they told me that if you leave no one i think those two were the first to to start also there you'll see careers with three finishes in this great stuff that you're doing here let's keep it going yes they're not let's break the record let's be all by ourselves now birthday year is one thousand nine hundred eighty eight which is just absurd to me nine thousand nine hundred i was in the fighting her like a kind of a hey this is coming and this is yeah i would like that do you know have this okay so they're going to show you photos from the nineties these are the photos right here do you know what that is the sister to get to the other sister you know what i mean what do you think of that idea that was a conversation between ben and i and he was actually the kind of like okay i'll admit i stole that from ben he told me one and then if you get this one and you could be like all right this is your preview and that's that's very smart and i agree with you well because i know her real name is lisa and becky becky that's right there it is uncle jesse john stamos in the middle now do you know what that is no nope SD cards would be a very thousand nineteen later i had it in my head oh i actually met him before i met him one of the hey that's still house wow how'd you so you can you name all the people jesse i think you would like almost there was like a little egg and then you would feed it and then it would become a thing kids used to play with this yeah oh yeah sure i really said this exact same thing to me if we can't get paid she should go after the sister yeah that's what he's told me he's like she go after chat show family matters classic yes actually four hundred older than than steve urkel in trouble with the law i saw that actually cadidates yeah crazy not what happened but getting kids in school i don't remember her name breath no doesn't ring a bell now edmonton oilers LA kings saint louis blues rangers wayne gretzky on though about hey honey was about this video game no i don't know what that is i believe this is the tom gottschee i've heard that name too but i've never had one the idea what is it it's a floppy disk i've heard of that good used to put things on at least got the thing about the computer the computer reboot not as good that is no the greatest new NHL the great one i did it too hard you can cut your veins on your wrist in that you shouldn't do because i think it and yes if i'm being honest but anyway do you know who that man is iconic nineties you are smart much smarter than the NBA rookies that's for sure what that will mean a walkman a corporate jake it says walkman on it eh i'm impressed okay do you know what that is aren't they yeah wristbands snap on risk of those okay are those at the projector man this we totally screwed up on this one i used to the users melamed yeah yeah i'm smart incredible wings okay so we're for or what else do we got had one of those that is that is no i i recognize him from some somewhere okay remember him as little later and a game cube okay i mean it's right there sega genesis good job who's to blame for this why is there a pack of cigarettes next to it you asking me go i'm asking the guys if you have any idea what's going on i have no idea what okay i think i've seen a show or two but i don't remember the microphone movie with what about fuller house you ever watch that i think i've seen one or two episodes but it's not the same for that but i think you crushed it i wanted to ask about the layoff in how soon you want to come back so since you had a layoff how soon do you want to come back the media day and they didn't know what any of these things were and there are your age oh i guess you're an old soul i've been told that before you have turning on the recognize that name is what about corporate jacobs says it on the thing what's wrong dies nintendo sixty four okay a little later i wanna give you like a half point you've probably never use one of those before like dad i'm sure i mean this it's me i mean we're doing a guess what and you're putting the thing we go back to the walkman for a second is a possible to go back to that photo yes we can either january or february but i would be less than two months you're okay with that possibly yes it just it just depends on who and i was fighting in LFA and yeah well it was nice ethics the garden his hand that is a man's man right there is are you implying that we need to smoke do you would you have known that a pack of cigarettes kim cigarettes maybe i just came together as a package because when you went out to walk the dog with the pacman you did i had the death toll yes cd cd this man still walkman because you know that forced me to work on mattel metabolism and really helped me mentally a lot so what do you mean by mentally just mentally in terms of like having to be forced into not training with surgery and it kinda gives you the perspective of you're not gonna take an extended period you don't wanna take mighty planning on going back to the jim hopefully tomorrow so i'd like to i went and worked out yesterday so that was nice ochre we'll see i've talked to everybody i haven't even gotten home to sit down on the couch for like five minutes to break maybe like a day that's it the this year right that would mean we may be talking about december actually really yeah that's who'd wow potentially and if not december take training for granted like the next morning after this last fight i woke up and i was like all i want to go to the gym because this time last i feel like you've got pretty much every single one except for a frie- yeah did you ever see this clip of the rookies then be rookies they asked NBA rookies eight all i was doing was getting ready to go in for an x ray and i felt nothing like wanting to go into the gym so to be able to wake up and feel like i could go and is there a part of you that wants to make time because you only got i don't feel like i lost time necessarily just because like if i look at other fighters or like they danny danny tanner okay and then she was actually just in the news i think she might be cow is is great and yet it is it really is a gift and it's something that i think a lot of us fighters we go through when we fight and then we're like man i just can't wait gave me a lot of credit in about the fighting or the trash talking because you know i think a little bit of both i mean he gave me a lot of things that i watched it twice chris kelly take that much time often man i've kind of forced to take that much time off and i was i was regarding the whole time but i feel like it all worked out for the good i'm like that not that kind i i had one of the CD just to see the set man i got to say i don't know if we were counting where we counting back there with wasserman you kind of had to get your i hope you don't do that i don't you know i don't smoke myself but have you ever used the water such good things about me and about my fighting style is like it's an honor and chills the teammate of pages so that must have good tale actually did a bad guy breakdown yeah or whatever he calls it but on your fight he did yeah break and i can't wait to just not do anything but then you also think about what about all the people that don't get to do something you know so i kind of feel like we get a little selfish time so was there honor to have you talk about me he just gave me a lot of good compliments you know he was saying something about my striking being able to not just a one punch harder or this that's not a good fight for her but the same time a piece of teammate of hers he should support her you know i wouldn't want to give false hope no when people fight everyone goes online talks macy look so good this guy looks good was there one person that wrote about you or maybe even reach out to you're like wow this person gimmie props that felt really good well done let's leave it at that okay congratulations thank you very much well done you're killing it really are in it's it's amazing to see what you're doing it it is a prediction december fourteen page is predicting in las vegas that'd be my goal my prediction but let's dream look up to a lot of like the higher the higher level fighters from from jail and DC and just two and ben like all of these guys to hear them say such it had been told that thing that you can make it a little tighter see that right over there well well done we've got nothing for you know prizes or party i was you know where i was i had said what i said about the the youngest champion golden so i called him up and i'm like that was the only thing you got wrong aside from that i'm like who a number five was but it's a good point about trauma he has been inactive and so you've been doing your thing and it's been really impressive in stained cleaning out of being failed well according to our notes chase hooper is currently the youngest but he hasn't fought is okay so we're going to go with i'm still the youngest we actually asked you for number because i wanted to call him up because he was like you got one thing wrong because he did that video and he was like i think it was by accident that did you did you get any shots didn't i should've i should've said it when i when i talked to him but i think he knows what that and he knows that hard it was like you know my my striking my knees kicks my elbows and it all played together so to hear him talk about that was really neat and to hear him give me that kind of credit twenty one years old you're the second youngest on the roster did you know that there's they told me what i went there in boston and they were like you're back to being the youngest and then i heard that i was the second youngest i'd like to see her go you know not necessarily career end but she said stuff about wanting to go to bella tour and i'll be good party and gift for her correct number six i right now i'm gonna put number one on the under twenty five why not don't tell AJ mckee that i said that i will but i think that you should at least move up out i apologize walk and it says walkman i apologize again yes all right otherwise it was fun s. so that should count account for something or fair enough thank you so much for doing this i really appreciate it thank you very much your father as well hope you guys enjoyed being at ESPN and there she is on our screen thank you so much for coming in i appreciate it and as you can see right over there she is called the future aveeno as a pro three and owned the i see it says second youngest in the in the AFC but i'm gonna go with her i say youngest until chase hooper actually fights and that's you have although i think that she did a lot better than most of us thought we tallied she answered six correctly six out of six of the eleven forty-five on december fourteenth of card by the way that she may compete on that's the las vegas car with the three title shots thank you very much father as well great guy bucky barbara who helped set the at some of the notables from friday night in boston by the way i love i love the friday card i'd like to see more of these cards in the future especially during football season would be otherwise you can get a little more time to prepare give her like january february needs that much time but gosh you boogie woman coming up you want to read breath the UFC of page ran i knew arm yeah i'm just helping out here with the line i mean heard did a lot better than the NBA rookies matter moments we're going to be joined by nico price who a lot of you very upset that i didn't have on the program for now take a look ah i see people say oh you can't be the now the president araya favors the california kid and the guys forty years old he's like just stick with looking getting i'm just kidding kidding just stick with change your nickname well all right barbara thank you very much you could just walk no one's going to actually we're very no frills here so no one's actually just like that slide away there she goes did you become the champion you say guess what i'm forty years old champion i'm the future exactly yeah what are you gonna do about it so delight that into people i guess you have to get a fight first before you can take me you'll see two forty five's debut so i guess until he fights you're the youngest won't last forever and i see that a lot of you like the fact that there was no competition with the saturday night college football game you've got your friday you come home from work you watch the fights why not why don't we get a few really i thought she did better that's little over fifty percent maybe i'll take back what i just said all right i won't but well done well done and keep doing your thing this isn't credible facility thank you thank you i built it actually just bought the bill there appreciate it app via the vivid seats rewards loyalty program vivid seats helps fans find their seats to any of their favorite live events including a lifetime with vivid seats listeners can watch their favorite teams and artists perform in person earning credit back on all purchases made through the vivid seats for 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you family yeah decision off of and if you were very mad about the fact that i didn't have niko price on how could you not have niko price on pulled off one of the best knockouts of the year he knocked out james it was a mistake on my part so i'm sorry it doesn't bother me at all all right well better late than never it's great to have you on the show what a win what a performance once again for you your your your ability to pull things out of very maybe unorthodox positions thank you very much to barbara and her father for coming in studio last week when we throughout the lineup for the show i had all the names it was a nice little lineup nowhere i mean it's just amazing how you're able to fly by the seat of your pants and be so be so creative with your attack this particular one is my favorites i'm curious how many times have you watched it since last saturday because it's a really it's it's almost like a shocking knockout to see that come out and he crumples down how many times then credit on all of their purchases through their app go to the app store or google play right now and download the vivid seats app fans are automatically enrolled in the feedback i understood that i had deprived the people of this man to hybrid and so i reached out to him and i apologize and said we must have you on the program and so there he is the daily if you've ever listened to that where it's like you know the news of the day get you caught up in twenty minutes it's a good lesson this morning they talk about the dallas cowboys and they're winless actually i get yelled at by coaches and training for doing that because it's such a low percentage moves and but i got i got a good finish out as mr nico nico how're you well it's good to have you on the show and i just want to say i apologize for leaving you out of last week's lineup you deserve to be towards him at all because i don't think he he processes stuff nicely he's on defense all the time but i was i'd said could that up kick hit him with the he'll face it was just amazing another one of his out of nowhere and they were all very upset and there he is i have righted the wrong i listened five for ten percent off your next order that's ESPN twenty-five for ten percent off your next order i wonder why it's twenty five also by the way i want to give he was like oh yeah i didn't get down my last fight house i is i mean either i said you're gonna get knocked down your next one one right after the fight is that who you were talking to which part like right when i got up yeah i put my hands like this and i time guess her okay so you guys have been circling each other i guess it's a bit of a florida thing right you live in florida he lives in florida but there's no actual i actually saw perry at the hotel and i walked up to i was trying to be genuine but i guess the lay it came off it was not genuine oh but i was just saying that to come back you know i have no hard feelings for him i mean me and fight that's all i want one the todd is inflict me off inside just signed contract okay so let me ask you about that how did you even know that he was there so i looked at him and said you said he could he be did it did it is that what you were saying right after i saw you shouting i'll give you my paycheck to you know like 'cause i wanted to fight the best and he was the best at the time so i was trying to get a fight with them we can all go have a beer after so then the until after the fight i'm gonna try to knock you out in which which built was this was this everybody you know i want to fight him you know it would be a great fight whenever they want i'm ready so they wanted to make him places space wide open and no way and i brought it back and i just dropped my heel right on is that something you worked on let's check so my kids can go to a good school and i give them a great home but after your win on on last saturday you saw him flicking you off okay but you talked before oh yeah we've almost thought before the UFC i challenged him for my belt percentage though it works for me what did you say to them afterwards since they're the ones telling you not to do it or that it's low percentage and you just one of the best knockouts ever via that move they wanted to make him versus robbie lawler in december but robbie can't fight and a not because he doesn't wanna play he just he has an issue that he has to deal with but perry the coach is like we did it we did it i told you it could be done i did it we did it but after tweeted this a couple of days ago he tweeted robbie don't wanna fight me they don't wanna give me nico because they think the money is too easy for me as much as they're going to pay me great fights under my belt i don't watch fights i want people everyone thinks great so i can show you how great was that the first time that you've ever met my perry physically yes what do you mean visit we've seen it like we actually touched fans that want them shut his hand i looked over at him we thought is i saw like the double figures wall then then i have you actually watched this of watch a lot as it is replayed in my head like that you know a lot of drop them three times i think you know drop me twice but when i in your career but in that particular case it didn't go your way what went wrong in that fight why didn't go your way in your opinion i have changed so if you invest in me you're investing back into the athlete you're not investing into fancy cars and diamond rings and all these these crazy things i ah they want the competition to match up what do you make of that is that true the UFC does want to make this fight i do i didn't care about anyone else i want myself on the best you know to prove to myself i am the best you know so it's no hard feelings anybody whatever it happens it'll be a great day feel great dane someone's coming off the candice yes i can't imagine why they wouldn't let's let's see if it actually happens but you're back on track here the jeff neal fight again it's like one of those fights where it's almost like you're styles killer be killed it's always very fun you've only gone the distance wants i'm in this to make money to support my family man praise god of mike i just want to yell his name is i can just break home you must tell him don't mean i walked in i think it was last year the beginning of the year the orlando fight initially the last three of them but like what dan stopped it i was like no dad you stopped it don't do this is you want my belt you know he was telling me that the promoter wasn't paying enough money he didn't wanna take the fight and i would thank heaven how you doing it and i was like are you gonna be able to get in a fight in before the end of the year like your nose is good and he replied some smart little comment in the hotel in iran there and i said hey man right and fight off by anybody perria anybody want you know he's always been on to fight got it nothing to be said you know dad thought i went to sleep but i didn't go to sleep awake i was moving those punches they're barely hitting me over there how's that he it's go time let's go i said just signed a contract i'm talking about him in him i said when i need to say if there between you two you just feel like this is a good fight now i don't get i don't have anybody you know that's all it is i'm just ophthalmologist was like i was stabbed behind my normal self i can't make miss excuses at all he brought it that night i brought it that night and he right get on and i came to orlando ransall sean shoghi in the big hallway i i i f ing hate you but i meant like plenty of and i was like a great battle you went out i was like no i didn't go out down get out jumped up and i looked at and he's never left since then it's been my life ever since so you're trying to become a cop you're on your path to becoming a cop then feel really you play football in rodman usually it's one or the other i started football for twelve years after high school we found a rugby club be my favorite one what's what's your favorite right now at this point in your career can't even tell you are blessed is that why they call you the hybrid it started out because like when i first started within the i did i know i'm unorthodox but the more learning throughout fighting i'm seeing so many more opportunities to hit people so like i would orthodox getting finished his out of nowhere looking for things in unexpectedly like was that always your style or something developed over time are boom boom and you had no idea about what MA was never saw it on tv right that because without him i would be do stuff i wouldn't have these opportunities and i don't have a favorite i love them all at all you know because that's it's it's my style you know hammerfest people from the bottom all the time trading up to people how many of like you said i got ten you know that's a lot in a look atoms as thank god for me did you drop that quickly when you saw people doing him a may not boxing right they were doing okay we had the rows loves on wow bob i became an allstate guy in that and then after that found okay it'd be surprised if i finish more people throughout my career like this i'm just gonna honestly i'm going to be like a nate diaz about it it's not surprise last breath ron biting you it doesn't matter how did you first get introduced anime on top okay you're not safe i'm gonna get you you know i have really long arms really long legs and just awkward lebron like i've always attacked in positions that people think are neutral or you're safe thin man if i could reach you right wow wow so you know martial arts background no fighting background now i can't right off the football rugby i don't object i attempted to put it out there and i won't actually hit my training partners whether that's messed up the randy brown one i would never do that dan why are you showing me this and then like that night i found the martial arts dude also i started straightly ground stand up everything and i was good at all of it so they're like oh you're like a hybrid that's so i learned self defense in the elena jim i saw some dudes in the boxing ring beat each other up and i asked the guy was like can i do that we got a house got everything situated to where i was making good money doing landscaping of i'd make extra money fighting career i did a landscape in everyday full times it's all my life once we got married she didn't have to work anymore so we got settled needs in wichita okay the ref said yes yeah why is this body you know that right yeah and i went in there approached face and he didn't get up and also i this is awesome and i stopped one of the top instantly so what did you do now now this became your job what did you do to support yourself landscaping okay for eight years the first eight years and you said you were going to work in jail as a corrections officer yeah that was what i was gonna do oh my no not that i know i'm trying to find a way to do it around the new rules because if you hold their feet up and it's only they're standing right there on the and she just took care of the kids you know we started having a bunch of kids started allies how many kids do bring you into martial arts learn how to fight because you're working the jails night won't be like a you know get beat up in there his hands so i asked the kick them in the face if i had little wheelbarrow position and i got yes i'll be working on yeah bye bye so when you first were introduced to it how long before you actually had your first fight three months three months wow it this will be your fifth or six this is going to be over five wow showed me the old pride fight and he was like look these dudes they're beating the crap out of each other it was wait now it's back again so we'll play i don't think a here niko but i hear this weird banjo music in my ear nico do you hear that then boy came and this will just nowhere wow this was a bit of a surprise if you will yeah allegheny i'm here yeah what is your dad thing about your cur now is he is he supportive of it hundred percent they each is don't be game plans and stuff you know i lost him i don't know what just happened but now the banjo music is back there he is he's back nico did you hear that that was that's never happened before i don't know what just happened that was awesome i want that song amis larry wants me so if you ever see me a foot stop anybody that's goes to my dad right there okay just no soccer kicks in the US ah so do i i thought it was someone in the back being very festive because you're about to have your child i mean it's a miracle no we're doing a surprise oil like it is the first time you're doing surprise you you've done surprise every single time no surprise just the last one okay why the end someone else meghan rampage there was a boom boom and i was like oh woo woo all like that you know the hybrid wolf you came right the symbol dollar you know you have to kill me until my last so much that's why i'm about to iffy about are a little iffy about fighting in december because baby i'm not missing my baby's birth com okay someone's playing a prank on us because i don't hear him anymore but i hear the music it's happening there ever try it okay to tough judges laid sent class like not going to be your house right yeah that's why my fights house chaos i respect it does the seven year old understand what you do all right so i went into the martial arts than jay hit that athena might try to do that stuff happens a big surprise five so like just like this oh yeah yeah i wanted him in the ribs with from the overall somebody seven six four and a half of it's my gosh total chaos for sure now now what's the breakdown in terms of sex how many boys how many girls to and to to to came what's the new one do you know art style where's that music from do you hear that out three rounds what is this okay i don't know what that was that was ugly the i will burrow head jake who said yes though if i areas nico the hybrid price what a great character what a great win last saturday in tampa over one james vick all right now i mean this is a great fighter why not read twenty fifteen sixty wow okay all right well i have five kids five hundred or one of the i i saw i was going to ask if you have your first because i saw photo of your wife she it up so just because we knew we had two girls we had a boy and they were like whatever's coming next is here and then and i did bring him to this point because my wife was like yeah you got your hands full well it's great to have you on the show my man nine video surfaced last week online of baltimore boy getting bullied in the school bathroom dennis was one of the many who were disgusted by that video reached out on social media to offer the kid free understand what i do okay are they fans they are trained to really oh yeah they beat the daily do do you bring them to your fight shitsu lessons which i think is amazing even range for an uber to pick them up and take him to the gym very cool yesterday dana's posted this picture of the young man before his first marshall on on the upcoming delivery thank you so much for having me on their god bless everyone praised god in be good yes sir arts lesson and road we're all in this together let's go champ good on both guys i hate bullies let's move on to our next guest looking forward to talking to this man he's a hard guy to to get in contact with these days he's very busy doing a lot of great things he's a mench in fact he was featured on sportscenter late last week here's what they had to say about our fighter dylan danas has a reputation for trouble outside of the cage but earlier this week he did something everyone can support and you're you're doing great things a lot of fun to watch you compete and i personally would love to see that fight against my parents i think perry wanted as well i don't know what the problem is let's make an areas dylan dana's i thought he was going to be there dylan well done my man aren't there is serious i thought been right twenty twenty thirty i'm ready there's a there's a backstory as you said a backstory dating back to the the regional days so picked on i feel like you know that needs to change so it's totally different than what i do and micro so tell me how this happened you saw this video online and then how did you get i know that guy i thought you were supposed to be an evil person so bad guy but when a kid is getting bullied or someone that can't defend themselves is getting he was like that'd be so awesome and then offered him over to the gym and back home and he said okay was do it so irate essentially with one of my friends that has jim in baltimore take this budget fight fair enough sometimes it's all about that just that and only that neak all the best to you and good luck to you and your wife you did all on his own wow that is amazing and and so you obviously weren't there because you don't live in baltimore but what is your what is your friends say about him attack the kid is so i got the video and send it to me but then i posted it and then a lot of people were attacking the kid in my video over and over again so i wanna make sure it was really fourteen did you talk to their parents not his parents only use went straight to the kid and he did it on his own there's just me and my my own rpt in our back well that's amazing five children wow i can't even imagine and what's what's the age range this is i mean you probably have since you've been involved in this where people are posting these videos of kids getting beaten up at school it's a disgusting thing have you seen like i feel like this part of martial arts so i feel like he had a lot of good about people around him and stuff like that so i'm really hoping he goes back and sticks with it i feel like there's a trend lately i don't know if you've meantime so been in contact with but trying to get him to go back and stay steady with martial arts but yeah basically just happened like that how old is he fourteen like a thing lately where people are doing this kids ganging up on one kid this was just one but it's like they're i've seen this at least five times over the past month and i don't understand why it's a thing and you for that but i feel like there's also something to be said for trying to inspire people to do good as well so donations and things like that i think yes let me more mature for my age at the time and you know like the guys at the gym always you know helped me motivate me and i'll tell stories and and yeah i was like i mean i understood the criticism about putting it out there but i feel like me putting it out there's gonna be a lot better than the longer than knocking out there yeah i saw people criticize all the good people in the gym that help you and motivate you and you know it's actually i don't know when i was younger i felt like older people was actually better for me than the kids in my school good worried for awhile for awhile so like i said i have nothing against you i feel like it's been around for here for probably since you know beginning of time in schools nowadays on social media times more often than not should be anonymous but we also like if it's becoming a thing where it's becoming cool to post these videos we need to make it a thing to be cooled because nowadays everybody's just kinda like you don't know who to trust and then what's what so the kid it ended up being him meet him for talking he was a little bit hesitant you wanna come out now and you know i think he's again the right people feel like a lot of people promoted to promote themselves and then moat other things you know i think using stuff for good is where it needs to be you know i got a lot of criticism for posting and doing this in in our good gestures to behind closed doors and you know i believe in that no i did not not yet i want to bring them to loyd it's just saw airplane tickets and stuff it scared in the beginning which i understand obviously nice play going through so much right now on like it's going viral and stuff like that and i reached out to him and say hey man i wanted to go to the gym said he was a little shy going to the gym i mean just anybody go into a new martial arts i was shot going into my my first job when i was fifteen fourteen so you know attention for i've heard that people like stage these things to get notoriety so but i've seen you post them and i think it's great henry gracie i saw posting about it like are behind him and if you do all these gestures behind closed doors their ideas behind closed doors all victims from bullying and all the people that are you're and i got him over there you end up training you know i i think he really wanted to do boxing mary did you might have been different for him but apparently he really liked the class help people out as well and so i give a lot of credit for that do you know why he was getting bullied you know why he was getting beat up like that he's a little bit one the one word answers two but this kid got got humiliated online in front of millions of people so why not have his back in front of millions of people and make them feel like you know we ever oy in i thought someone like him would understand that it was actually pretty embarrassing to see him talk of a martial arts like that and he's criticizing you for this through stuffing yeah now how does it work when you see all these other videos right like right now selena and stuff like that so i don't know i rubbed me the wrong way especially coming from someone like him hoops martial-arts meteoroid champion and done so much great in his life gone through something income from different kind of life than i come from you know so he just a little bit hesitant with you know reaching out in talking too much i understand that you know i don't i don't hold on to help them learn martial arts for free is this this is a serious thing that you're thinking of doing i've been i've been talking to him you just don't know that who's lying who's not lying so it's very hard i'm not gonna lie so i don't know i think i'm trying to figure out because i never dealt with this before right and you're getting all kinds of as well i think it's great that the jujitsu guys are doing this in particular because wanting to is like i don't know if you listen to michael business podcast but he kept like making fun of the martial arts isn't all about defending yourself about building confidence discipline you know it has it has so much more than just using it in the street or in a couple of days ago the ultimate aim of martial arts not having to use them i thought that that was a very good one your party also tweeted that you were thinking of starting nonprofit organizations for kids who are bullied incontinent messages videos of god i mean even my shannon things to you don't know who's who's being honest who wants to get famous who wants to do this would but every sells more comfortable with so yeah i don't know i mean i feel like allow people just give up on people say he doesn't deserve this or he's ling is worse than physical bully so yeah i definitely would i definitely gone through some stuff you know i think we all have i'm not special in any sense if everybody's gone through people against them you know so i feel like you know the more it helping the more i taught him you know i've been talking on a daily basis reaching out to him and just trying to you know talk more and breaking him out of his shell take your exchange all one word answers i know some people are like oh he's not grateful tonight he doesn't wanna be held but you know i see someone that you know is for like what goes into it and so i i might have thought it was a little bit easier than what it would it comes out to be what we're working on it now and is this like a personal thing field martial-arts confidence that when you see them like okay they carry themselves differently and no one will mess with you after that so yeah definitely been through a lot of stuff great for he doesn't care you know but i kind of try to find the good in people in and i'll work it out with him in a certain sense i just i know how it is to be that agent and bullied as a kid is that is that why you feel like at this stage in your life you need to get back why does this mean so much to you definitely bullied as a kid but i wouldn't say i was bullied reveal a bullying are not going to see that there's not going to see that martial arts can change your life or not know that there is someone to reach out to or there's ways of getting out of it so marci's in just about findings about this plan confidence spanked NFL didn't you build you into someone that nothing else can you tweeted tone of people that have started nonprofit for i never started well before i didn't know how much goes into it so been working with some people and seeing how it goes in like the numbers and learning all this stuff it was bullying and gain trump by six seven guys you know in the bathroom but i was definitely bullied as a kid i feel like sometimes mentally on isaiah sometimes mental i have defend myself so i didn't have the feel scared anymore i'd have to feel like i didn't want to school so once i learned how to defend myself that confidence that that grew in me and and people that tree good on you my man it's great to see you doing this now also want to ask you about some of the things going on your your actual career first off how's the knee the things eat healthy physical therapy and stuff so i think i'm starting to get into that point my career working on my body and my longevity are you saying that the kidney ju jitsu view to help them and a fight in three fight and all this stuff and michael business world champion a martial artist his whole life and you know he should understand yeah i knew he was gonna be a little bit shy but i was very surprised if the mcgeoch jumped right into the class in the one thing about march lawrence that i really liked this as a kid in oh you know making fun of them and stuff like that or bullying them and they did have it may not be the reason i started training was because budget older kids picking on me and i wonder we've now as far as the makers concern will you fight this year or do you think you're done for this year i definitely want to fight this year i was trying to get onto japan unborn end up falling to the ground and my faculty locked up it was really bad if i don't walk in stuck in bed and it was it was terrible wow and how does it feel now i don't know how to explain that was something that you want to do ABC how tough was it to pull out on top of things my whole life man yeah he was on he was like oh boy she's gonna do like a guy jumping break his arm in arm bars and get knocked out like saying stupid stuff this kid need couldn't doesn't need march people will see you know there's there's nothing that i haven't i haven't said that has came true so i'm gonna come back ADC combat the grappling and prove paul thing you're you're very into this jake paul idea fighting finding this guy this youtube a like a youtube influencers something like that why do you want to fight him so badly in card i want to do the rise in japan i thought that'd be cool i'm so we're still working on the fight with j. paul the boxing so i want that to happen really bad and damage maybe we'll do that before them there okay so those a lot there where do things stand with the japan fight coker told me that he sent the name especially when you get to watch people that wanted that shouldn't have one in if i was there so that's one of the toughest sanctions especially after you guys know who i mean is when they made eight million so they split four between each other and he was like no obviously like this fight will be a lot bigger i was doing oh i don't honestly i don't like to give people that don't deserve credit but in i'm i still feel like i'm the best graph in the world MMA and as you get to so okay i mean i would imagine that's more than what you make in baltimore that's close but it's fun competitions plenty guys are martial arts wars and i call them out on everything i've been saying everything about him so either as a happy in the in the ring or is going to happen industry at his house so leeann i'm down to do it and now they're offering me four or five million for boxing fight against simplicity that can't even defend himself so i'm down to do i mean if you talk a big game and say you can fight me and you you know you'll beat me something didn't you wrestle as a kid i mean that would be a match it would just be me for again abusing him but the boxing match he thinks i don't have to due to some my body's just trying to learn how to be a professional athlete instead just training and training and training and not taking care of your body you know professional athletes do all the no it's funny in the beginning he called me everything's i called him outlet i wanna call it youtube beginning he called me out like he wanted to fight me this and that and then i kind of just like whatever you could do it wait so who's offering you four to five million the dr morrow talking it's a fill up and i was doing the right things go into a physical therapist stretching and trying to work on just on i think it's just like some long training that my body just like so their whole lives and not finding some no pushy youtuber that thinks he can fight but what did they make more sense to have a grappling match doesn't have a history in in wrestling or forget about your whatever issue may have with with with aspirin just to amazing grapplers ground fighters a lot of fun you think my actually some he's never been tell me on the phone person should at the gym they said that ben aspirin called flow grappling like personally on the phone and said i wanna grappled my show he actually seemed quite quite interested in like the first time us actually warming up to the idea of of competing against you do you think this could happen like i'm gonna fight youtube or and then another the money came under par in the naza maybe i'll just shut this motherfucker up so yeah i'm thinking about innings wife involved east already that with me i usually don't go for wise but he came in my girlfriend so you come to my girlfriend i'm going right for your wife girlfriend the sport so is that why you pulled out of a DC yeah it was it was bad man i come and stand up i have explained what happened may there was just like sundance site it up and i said okay i don't care i'm down so they were working on a press conferences and and building up a big event around it and i think that'd be awesome fighting wise so have you comes out basement he's nice about it i'll probably do sure sure and what about kevin lee is dead i was kind of into that one are you it was just started talking head you so so fun have you always been this kind of fighter like just very you know so i if damian submits them on saturday does that take the appeal away from you like do you want to be the first guy to submit them so you know i mean on so or in a couple of weeks right it's not going to happen for transfer i just throw me in there be half drunk and snow fight him or not i don't need to be trained for that but if he doesn't bill so even before he came on your show they slow grappling came to my gym texts me we talk in person housing talking personally that's getting better it's they're trying to allow for ABC i hurt my back really bad i couldn't walk and you know i think it's just been training retraining for so long i was almost eleven years over there talking about if they have someone to match me to fight me and stuff like that so i guess it's you know it's not just belco you know rising has to go with it and they have in some okay now this g you put it on my on my twitter he said like the only way he'll do it if it's like a combat ju jitsu and he knows that you'll see when let him do that is technically MMA stocking stuff you know i mean i posted out there you sure sure sure but this this event is happening next but the only thing that kinda sucks is that he's gonna get a he's gonna get submitted by damian maya but we'll see what happens i was just going to ask you is fighting this saturday against my insurance if you're interested in searching people legally but i was always down for it and then he was like man you know like it'd be real pipe lock me or something like that and so i need to be able to hit him so he does like went back on what he was saying but he said he hoped the packages allow you not us just saying stuff like that and i mean i have pictures with his wife and stuff like that so you know meaner had a good night out tape was happy him over and over again him marcello like he's he's very overrated so damian way better competition as a way better black belt so before you think he subs them oh i am a betting member had output i would put i say damian tops for sure tuck he's not going to beat them on the who's going to take him down hold him he's not gonna hold david david is going to happen there's a video back in the day of jason and ben ash and training damion taps and what do you think he gets earlier takes a little time i say second round submission wow that's pretty earlier about do damage waiver shirking him so he's he's it comes out on lake begs me and stuff like that may be but i don't know i like nowadays is so hard to find someone that's like on the level of the in popularity wise in we'll see i definitely want to fight for the year's over i might get that so mean benizri grappling match after he said after he fights steamy maya so i'm not sure it was he doesn't take any then we can do we can start to have a big enough name where we could just make our own main event boxing thing we don't need anybody else on him so the last time ben astros i mean everybody thinks i don't how striking and this and that so i guess let's see i mean i think it'd be fun i mean me and him have now what's this picture that you posted you nicky as what's that all about someone tabula and they were saying like nick bell towers that other you know that'd be awesome alga down to do everything i've ever said any everybody's ever turned down or our ran away from it so i'm down to care you can show but my gym we'll do it tomorrow doesn't matter on twitter as well one of the legends of the game losing streak so sorry about that when i urged them in that grappling match offer me i was supposed to fight i mean these these tweets that you put you enjoy doing this right riley and they take the bait every time the comments are just people ed i mean i'm the one that at middleweight and lightweight was funding absolutes every single year so i go against everybody i go against everybody nogi in all these guys either one forget you barely okay let me get your take on this before i let you go i asked joe lows on about it charles rosa when he got the sub did you see he has eight on the cage i'm trying to seize this should have been illegal in your opinion that that help him or do you think that did help i appreciate that but it was it was it gordon ryan that you're preferring to before referring to everybody okay i i wanna personal i was actually surprised when they said that chris i was the highest paid woman fighter that was pretty cool i'm happy for her that's cool she's part of paradigm to and stuff like that so i was very happy about that but also like the after ABC couple places reach out like what do you want to i want to go against chechen i want to go against them all so i mean i'm the one that at any weight other they do this and that rule sets i'm the one that my whole career never complain about rule sets never complained about g and now finding i'm a man so we'll be combing event doesn't always mean greg hardy he's been combing event to and he does have a lot of fight so from the last night you guys looking at hayler single time where you're supposed to be on a couple of weeks and then he goes to me and i wasn't happy about that you know this right there's only one me are you still the highest paid for and built or is that changed since the last time we talked about that no i might pick up no one has come close to me if we help us you can't you're not gonna build probably the legs office is easy has his tone in the cage but yeah i probably should have been disqualified for that but i guess stuff happens is a fight so yeah no one comes close to make them on mike applied ever on the code event massacre guard right and nuts the whole place diamant make a noise until i came up anymore because it's just stupid everybody knows who's the man who fucking brings all the is in all of that so you plan all all you want and i'm on your show but i'm the highest one that's get washed every single it's like right now you guys talking about win the brings excitement 'em age jitsu i mean come on beyond what other on it's just stupid outta mini to saint the guy be like flights on the premiums he's a purple and it's funny how things come around now wow and what year was this this was too semantic i saw yeah you had all kinds of gifts for her balloons your real soft yeah you're in love i see it in your eyes what are you celebrating i see a balloon over there behind you what he's celebrating birthday go all out you know yeah ah housing that'd be cool i'm going to build our final okay wow you're i mean just like some of your i mean you do like detroit people right you will admit that what would be in fourteen maybe between joe i want i just put on my twitter as i look back then back then in two thousand fourteen facebook dot com slash ESPN page where we highlight the good people doing great things in the world of all right i'm excited about this last thursday i had opportunity to sit down with triple h and tyson fury yes hunter hearst helmsley aka paul eveque WWE executive tyson fury do things about you good job helping out that kid and trying to be a positive influence and everything that you're you're you're writing about as far as martial arts and the potential charter still the one and only doing some great things for the youngsters one of my honorable mention by the way you can check that out each and every week on the pro wrestling debut on october thirty first october thirty first saudi arabia the gypsy king the lineal boxing ferguson and then they came with joe louis on back then really i have a name and i was like i'll go joe trillo sounds like a legend back house they got that house they tony ferguson how's the calling the shots theorizing me who i wanna fight and i said tony ferguson he's as guys on the premiums i'm finding out so it's funny like many years that align i'm still making all the calls that's right and then the comments you're you're all you put me on the show everybody oh my god i'm the highest watch one on referee n call it so i guess it's legal or yep yep he didn't see it goes on to win he did amazing so you give him props on three as you may know going to make his way over to pro wrestling later this month along with cain velasquez velazquez competing against brock lessner rematch of their fight try mantra well well done you're making your mom very proud dylan than you and i don't believe everyone who says all these mean and nasty the deal with cain velasquez first time ever met triple h i'll give you some thoughts on that on the back end of this interview but first here's my conversation with triple h and tyson fury about tyson fury in my head back again i've been a fan of his longtime and seen him and thought incredible entertainer he's custom made for what we do in some way when this opportunity came up do you have c. one twenty-one tyson fury is going up against braun strowman so i had the opportunity or in new york had the opportunity to sit down and talk them about how this deal with tyson came about go top rank ESPN getting together i was at the lohman chango fight it was right around the same time that he signed with top rank and it sort of put the just the one match deal or is there a longer deal at play here well i think when you're the type of entertainer he is like i said you know it's easy to see how he fits in what we do in the opportunities there and he wants to be part of it we love to have hired of this happening have you ever trained in pro wrestling before never pro wrestling training before ever put a heavyweight champion of the world will be making his debut going up against braun strowman how cool is this we're talking to the gypsy kings tyson fury himself and triple h WBZ executive thank you very much correct now like you said it's one fight at a time so i think you do this braun strowman and saudi i look forward to support them down the road in in february hopefully with with a wildfire i've been thinking about it for a little while and then this opportunity came up we reached out he said this actually works out perfect for me the timing is great and here we are you know did you have any reservations we were just sort of actually reaching out to see if they'd be interested in the future and what that opportunity might be the woman janko fi like i said is we're kind of popped into my head for doing this guys i really appreciate it if you haven't i'll start with you how did this all come about how did you guys reach out to him and get this deal done i'm a big boxing fan start with a few months i and we'll see where it goes from there like you said when you have this level of personality this level athleticism he can do anything he wants so already begun training you're at the performance center up in wet can out down it's a surreal experience like coleman into this avignon i didn't know what to expect and getting him down to the performance orlando where we train it's easy to see how this athletically for him is just such an easy fit we'll see and all that stuff well done my man thank you for doing this i appreciate it and hopefully the back in knee feel good soon and we'll see you back in there soon enough as for how mirror cruciate all right there is offense also big deal for anime fans 'cause cain velasquez is making us w debut and i i heard that you guys were all talking i was like okay this sounds like wrestlemainia tyson fury is in her when she did this there's only certain of very ultra elite that that happens to and he's one of them this is going to be your house i i trained floyd mayweather a few years ago when he wrestled being showed wrestlemainia that opportunity to see elite level athletes and there's a difference lifelong WWE brother route sixty six and weighs about four hundred pounds and we wrestle like all the time from being ten years old coming up a fight the big wilder fight coming up in february maybe this isn't the best time no this is perfect timing for me this is still a wanted to do for a long time so stage in korea i think what's cool for me is to see somebody i've been around athlete to enough my entire career now my job WWE recruiting athletes from around the world whether that's NFL october thirtieth it's going to be something special just match with braun strowman i think people are going to be shocked at what he does because he's not just taking this in going in there i'm going to do one or two things wrestlemainia kind of fight kane wrestlemainia why is it happening so soon why is it happening in two weeks it seems like it's happening sooner than maybe the in the old days you would build to something this uh hey what if he was like the timing is now and we had an event now and i don't know that we would have done the exact same time but it worked you know things happen for reasons so had the fight game in his head and either i feel you either do this or you don't do this and he was looking to do this long term but he hadn't put that away yet now he his own and i thought wow this this is going to be something special because he's he is that next level he is that floyd mayweather he is the rhonda i saw that just get out of there and try not to get hurt and get a pay whatever this is the he's going to try to make something special edits in shows and it's it's going to be awesome so this event is a big deal for pro wrestling fans big deal for boxes wants to fight come around the corner like what will be will be and i'm gonna take one time and for now i'm concentrating on berlin stroman nothing else is ever growing up i had a goal he was one of my favorites say that anyway i've favorites so in orlando vision this was the opportunity right place right time right right athlete all of the you know what i mean just just fell in our last few true or false questions is it true franken something can blow up over here and there's just nothing happening there's just this focus in this dr i watched him walk in the performance end of that first day in five minutes after he was in the ring he was hey one of my childhood heroes like thrill for me to be to go backstage meet hulk hogan and all the rest of the guys rock and everybody it's been often you'll paternity arise and being in a position where after sort of big caught on i'm not boxing training at the moment this is perfect time infamy everyone's like oh no counter that you've got commit worked out perfect for him and we were like well let's just go with it we can make this happen now we can make it happen quickly and we can move and make this epic blockbuster event like you said with between somebody that's kind of at the top of them like the very elite level there's a different spark in their eye when you put them in the ring and everything else goes away information's come from but i'm not going to confirm or deny i don't wanna preach my contract it is amazing how much people and other people's money oren the trainings absolutely fantastic we've all new relationships i'm thriving it's like when you go out and not state with this new he's kind of got to the point where he did a few matches he trained a little bit in a few matches and he got the bug for and now i can see in canes isaac he really wants this well months why is it happening in two weeks i think the timing of it is is right like a said when we reached out to him this was the timing for him okay i think we were reaching out ah you could make an argument that right now if you if you said one of the big four sports in america you could make an argument with that we're right there so it's a different conversation now he stepped away from MA and he's fully dedicated to to what we do so that's a different conversation because he was looking to fully make the trend berlioz everybody was like concentrate on your job you are not to show when you're not a movie star like try telling me using topic this time are you getting any pushback from any of your guys about going back there no i think as as time has gone on the truth is one entertainment company and this is a moment in time and his point i'm not going to confirm or deny but the positioning of what we are different than i would never do anything other lives the you've got to take the bull by the homes and get them with and enjoy it because like i say this once in a lifetime opportunities i'm sorry swirl that's all over the news that he's not as it seems like in the past the athletes who came over the celebrities didn't make that much look a WWE politics everything else aside what we have millions of fans in the middle east that love what we do they love the product they love to be entertained by it this is an opportunity for us to go there like we've been doing for years and years and years and go there and entertain our fan base and i think that are what happens if you get injured shoulders legs whatever this is the risk what if i go out the front door and got run over by boston morning if we lived our lives on f helen especially have seen that when they go there what they do is they go there and they see an event just like the other events they do they see tens of thousands of fans in the stadium now i really know it's one of the hardest things i've ever had to do people say to me oh it's all fake i said well you hear you train for a couple of days and he's how fake is any other sport we're not the size of the NFL or anything like that but what we do is up there and also i was gonna say one thing that's why you save none of the other books came in you're a historian i've been in this business for a long time could i ask you off top your i know i'm putting you on the spot the greatest sort of athlete cameo lawrence taylor every hour my god this is how is it's a new thing for me so i'm really really enjoying the experience so the other giving you opportunity born didn't know that this was happening until you saw on television is that true true you didn't give them a heads up i didn't surprise was he mad he was it is it true you're making fifteen million for this talk about in in read so i read this ah i think it's to be challenged here very shortly is february twenty-second a done deal with as far as we know both the certainty were boxing being thirty like we would offer time limit there's no no hold bod with each of light for an hour stop wrestling who is if i'm tough stick thing for me and it was an opportunity that i did not want to slip poke franck along with my management team trainer father he's called all tees and we'll see what the future holes have you erected a statue of that cut man who saved your your fight i mean that was incredible stuff that he brock and the timing is right with that too as well cain is somebody that looked into this awhile ago he came to the performance center tried out with us but he still laser focus on it and wanting to be something special i think he really did go into wrestlemainia and it's arguable in that show that like that it kind of stole the thunder in that event like this this spectacle was on them so you could make that argument that greatest performance from a crossover on crazy for what they do that's what we do we entertain and that's a we're not we're not in it for politics anything else about going entertaining are basing there's millions of our fans do you have any reservations i'm a price want to entertain a lot like trump lake just said i just very good point i know this is your forte jing you gotta pay for the absolutely absolutely that sounds like a confirmation right here on this your fourth event in saudi arabia correct i know it's been somewhat of a i always say you can't go swimming and not what everyone says all the best thing about not having occultist don't get one in the beginning vote been a professional for eleven years i've only two taylor but i think if i had to pick one i would pick floyd floyd i yeah i just it was a whole 'nother level of i go where i'll have to go like i say going over that to put on a show for the for the funds around the world boxing and wrestling like i never even a contact sport yes i'm getting thrown around about ring the ropes ally bob wire i'm caught me boxing bits i feel saw in places that they think could occasion to it in a short period of time and he just wanted it to be epic like he does the it's funny in my mind the comparison of the two just in their dedication to it in there prizefighter himself how do you react when you hear news like this first of all condolences to the families who lost ones in that fight against ottawa lean it was amazing to watch him work in between the rounds that was as riveting for me than the action itself at pick your whole hey cup teller multiple brains gallons per year to be passed medically fit to to do bottle it's one of these unfortunate circumstances heison floyd who did it best in your opinion what what's the level that he's to reach to sort of surpass in your mind putting you on the spot where you who came over and really wowed you more so than the rest on the people around you know boxing has been regulated time and time again we take medicals all the time every single flight we have brains guns there's quite pissed really he said to me i think this is a really bad idea you could get injured bob stroman massive guy what happens if the court reopens we're made up of multiple boxes you came into it with the lineal heavyweight current world champion i'm also that not right that's right into play too so you know what if it was me terrible terrible times for the for the families it's been a tough time in the sport of boxing on wednesday we found out about patrick day unfortunately passing away the fourth boxer in a little over two months as one of the faces of boxing and you're you never say never and WWE so clearly yeah they sincere and came to alaska sorry about to compete and to actually cool thank you so much guys i really appreciate this his can't see can't all of that but yet stay dominant the whole fight because at any minute if you're not dominant they might stop this but if you're in a dominant position they're not going to stop it freefall times in the last few months around the world the balkan community has really got together to show support to the families into the friends who've lost their fighters for me coming over and tag teaming with kane this will all be for non asked him about DC and he actually told me that he has talked to dc over the that could be you know we're we're say it all the time we're open for business pass his past today's today someone who goes in there and risk your life every time you go in what kind of feelings do you get when you say what kind of reservations had it how do you react it's one thing for the media to react pundits but as an actual the cut if you if you aren't so he's got to stay dominant every step of the rest of that flight is a different a different game in a different level of athlete that can pull that out and do that his deal tastes gonna be louis all tees okay all tees has a tough customer nothing's given in life so one-step-at-a-time one fighter time i've got a problem stroman rematch of a fight that happened almost ten years ago at UFC one twenty-one all right so there you have it those a lot of fun first time i ever had the opportunity doesn't whoever they were related to he's kind of scary you know i go in there and i'm in the heavyweight division with the biggest the biggest scholars feel okay bob never took any countries to it but i think in another feeble so i'm going to be fine again taking volunteers this is her business this is the fight game life so it's not about bumped ballistic he talk about that cut though and as much as it was to fix it thinking about the performance to walk past that oh yeah forty seven talk to triple h i really enjoyed that afterwards he actually invited me to the performance sennar said he'd give me a little behind the scenes tour of what they do over there said talks but they've definitely tested the waters and brought up the subject but they still feel like DC wants to find and we know DC once if i decided on this show so i thought that was was actually my first time seeing him since and so i just said hello and wondered if you remember me but he's getting a little up there in age and i don't know if he actually did but he said he did so it was nice to see singh also for you long time fans i ran into bob arum in the back i didn't even know he was going to be there and i haven't seen he was coming out of the restroom and he feels like once he gets out of his system much like cain recently got it out of his system some way somehow then they can have some and like twenty minutes is going to be a little bit off the beaten path but still in the combat sport i'm not talking about like NHL here chill out all right enough at that time you'll see was coming up and they were actually going head to head with a mayweather fight UFC one of three was going head to head with their fight on pay per view and it was somewhat uncommon oh i don't know two thousand nine i think it was i interviewed him at a yankee stadium prior to many patio verses miguel koto and compa is a top guy and he saved my career without without monica forty seven pitches well and it seems to be okay so only been a month healing the crown jewel october thirty first on w network debut of tyson fury going up against braun strowman and also debut of cain velasquez going up against brock less past few months slash year and feels like unlike cain right now d. c. still has fight left in them MMA fighting left in them gray area how you doing man i'm doing really well so what are you what are you laughing about what's so funny over there my little rant i get so noisy with these people they had to get to but i actually asked him about daniel cormie because you were called a couple of weeks ago i said hey if this whole cave alaska's WW thing doesn't result in for them to do this and i asked him about the rise of anime in that you have seen particular and he had a lot of disparaging things to say about the sport one of the first interviews that got me some attention and the trauma stay i will end on this just a couple of true or false all i need is true or false true or false ronda rousey will compete again matt riddle will be if game on us we know what we're gain info salt of we know the risk element but it's not reality until something like this happens and it's happened i was i was in my zone early early in the day in a my zone could touch me now what all right three and a half hour show relax anyway if you're one of those people you'll like our next guest because he wanted the main event this past for i'm giving you everything everything and asked him if you remember me and i'm not sure if you really did remember me but i certainly remember him if you if you don't know the story back in i i just i let it all go you know i said whatever god has in clan for me as can be the clan so is go out there and buy like i know i can champion this time next year and WB on the big stage on the big roster not tried to that's hard to say true or false okay a lot of a lot of variables so if you're into that sort of thing enjoy by all these people complaining too much progressing talk well we'll we'll give you a three and a half hour show every week and that's just on mondays what's happened in recent times and hopefully we don't see any more of it in in in any more reason times well this happens now and again on it's an obsolete like you're very happy go lucky guy you're always smiling were you little more nervous for this one actually i was the most common ever felt ever refined it come check out annex t all those places more perhaps most interesting afterwards we spoke a little longer were a little bit stressed for time there was another taping but definitely has the potential to beating a true or false also true being w w again at sometime i'm always working on my boxing i knew i had my hand for sharper than his own finish them and i knew i know they already are naturally but that interview you probably gonna tell your friends about i don't care i don't care if you don't like it i like it a lot of other people like it and guess what it's interesting stuff all right so get over yourself around thirty five thirty six years old i feel when your body starts to like betray you and you're not as athletic as used to be you know you can still see right now at five he could very well be next for johnny bones jones he's dominic reyes kind enough to join us dominic congratulations man how are you like why do you think that was were you just like overly prepared did you feel like this was a really great matchup for you sometimes when the stakes get raised you get a little more nervous do you ever wanted and more i'm giving you okay so chill out he won the main event on friday against chris wideman in boston he is in my opinion the number one contender AM it was fun and i appreciate both tyson and triple h four give me the time of day i still think it's weird that it's happening in saudi arabia it's happening so soon but hey it's happening tober thirty first things the way you saw him once but you can't move the same way and i just think it's a matter of age at this point for him so you got like six seven years that he's more susceptible to getting dropped you feel like this now problem that that he should you know talk afterwards he should get a little more serious about retiring of christian and hammerfest but is that something in particular that you worked on a particular thing of organon for chris i mean left that ended up dropping him and then the hammerfest that's something that you work on very impressive the parry the left everything was just so impressive that led to the dropping of but like i said i'm done with this show i'm not watching ever again could don't watch ever again i don't care and by the way i don't believe you i don't believe you you're still going to watch and you probably to invade or fade to and you thought right into it and i don't money baby do you subscribe to the theory that like his chin has gone away always very well dominic creates just one of the main event you're on the show what more do you want who else do you want you driving me nuts anyway great forums yeah you can't please everyone can't please everyone would you think i main event big time stuff against the former champion what was it like going into the file a you you seem very common the and one of my big rivals deontay wilder arguably one of the biggest punches in heavyweight history so i've got to go i go to roka this seriously it could end that quickly but i i wasn't expecting it to end quickly the step back left like you're going backwards and you hit them with i don't know i wanna say khudai fine how how to win the fight i think what it comes down to of done left still a lot of time a lot of work to be done you've only been in the AFC for a little over two years when when you debuted in june of two thousand seventeen if i would've told you are i two years later talks to john you're you're in that orbit your undefeated sound like would you believe me or is this happening sooner than you expected are you on right on the button so i mean it's hard to say whether or not but personally i i plan on retiring yeah i was i was very prepared i do have an anti everything he was trying to do and had my family met my close friends there key by the how'd you feel about this talk i don't know if it's going to not hit him with with a laser shot man i hit him really hard i guess you could say i knew it was gonna happen because he lunges in we're looking at film and he learned his in pretty often with that too and at a really good vite performance put on and all my dreams will come true did you think it would end up quickly they were saying the same thing with kobe saying that kobe loses dan is going to cut them and put them to build a guy he'll come to bell tour because like he's saying he was ahead him in the head with a belt would i need to do at this point to get that fight but i m my whole career has been really fast rise reason i didn't have and event a up to this point is because i'm moving on to the next level before organizations could lock me down and made of that you know i'm finishing guys early excuse management to make it go away like hey man tell them why can't fight him i'm you tell me why bro but you step up what's up in your batman it's all along he tweeted afterwards many have talk expletive all have fallen you will do the same so it seems because it's the official championship parade of like the patriots in championship teams in boston so that was my what do you mean by that his management they've reached out to you guys now they tweeted oh w fight i care about what dangerous guy that's getting better every day now what happened i was talking about you being calm you talked about you being calm i got this tweet from someone who said that big fight i mean cleared clearly doesn't wanna fight me is getting his management to make use forum asking his management good way to celebrate so you said you said afterwards like all right i don't want any party favors john i just want to say what did you mean by the way buy party favors are your favorites man octagon which is bringing the bell don't bring anything else don't bring any of your special special stuff we're special sauce as they would say a key heard your your message but never really to the best of my knowledge actually addressed you was it was at accurate that i missed something i didn't actually address you or the fight in particular think dude a hill who's this abraham cala yeah one of those guys yeah did you just ask the guy could you drive it now he asked me to drive and then surprised that i was as good as i was driving this vehicle so it could drive on land and also goes in the water it's really cool world war two vessel i drove around the charles for about thirty minutes i usually people's zigzag because they're the response on the on the steering wheel is delayed the like you move it and then like maybe fifteen seconds later have you ever driven something like that before now i've driven boats and stuff like of never vessel that wow okay well that's my championship parade actually signed my name on the boat right next to you tom brady which is really cool wow the book it's a f- after that we somebody said something and he said was intended from a boy integrate is yeah naturally i responded the beard and you're in the driver see what does this man i was driving around the duck tour that was actually posed by really would you think of his last performance against tiago at that he did enough to win one but i felt like he did enough to win who are you to talk about my career right that's what you're thinking oh okay so that's a clear indication that john doesn't wanna fight me and he doesn't want to openly say he let's let's run it bro runnin falls wanna talk all that lets you want to smoke bro is running you you're leading a duck tour before the fight you were driving the boat what is this all about is this is this from this particular by week here we are i think that's the guy who tweeted me the do you think the US's on board with this i don't know i don't know rolled into london i russell on long i'm athletic bass i apart like never thought of mexican did one contender spot what do you say to those those people they start reaching twelve no i'm undefeated while more of a story it wasn't even athletic enough to play on his high school football team like come on you're not impressed not takeout jones all the whole narrative they're trying to create with that like an undefeated prospect who hasn't lost the UFC or john has a bad habit of letting habits get the best of them and i wanna part of that man i just i just want the belt let's party i do i work my whole life to john in my fighting career to begin i started training to fight on i'm getting better and better out do you subscribe to the theory that he has trouble with guys who have a long reach you know guys like us of sin taegu's santos little p. yourself i wanna fight me so he's going to ask management to you know basically save them in this situation you feel like you're ready for john now start moving so people over correct a lot they do really good like how you know i got this i'm like i'm just dialed in baby agai no he had trouble with with gus came back better the second time but he still had some trouble with his length man i'm like i'm like these guys rolling well it's all mixed never thought of mexican get it so there's a fight coming up in a couple of weeks johnny walker and corey anderson walker now he's talking about heavyweight maybe waiting for DC and steeping i don't know man i don't know what he's doing is he's trying to get the go ahead please all the other contenders loss you know a anderson lawsuit guy that i- i knocked out like and he's talking about to be you know the hero the you know taken out let the legend killer that's what they wanted but didn't happen that way and they were shot you know i didn't really get so you feel like that's the thing i do shovels guys with more reach like you said he had trouble always p. and i destroyed or has some buzz what do you say to the people who say if walker wins he should get the town sheriff anderson wins he should get the title shot or on top of that the winner of that fight shift fight you for the for this last week when i said that if wiedeman won- he'd be in the driver's seat i wasn't necessarily say that this is what should happen i knew behind the scenes that they were saying why winner of so and so and so and so like whatever i'm coming for goldman that's all i want correct me if i'm wrong it sounds like i love it i love it i i think you should get that opportunity do feel like in your heart feel like at the end of the day john will take the fight wins they were going to try to turn around and do him versus jones beginning of the year because of everything that you said so i was trying to take anything away from you i feel i'd say right now and i said in the time and they should have protected that they should have seen my career path than what's going on what i'm doing if people like wake up and look at what's going on john jones won the fight good for him let a it just set it up for a reach my destiny you know i feel my destiny is to fight this man and to take it like almost a little annoyed you why the respect i have i have a tough all right all i'm saying that of this game and it's it's my whole life i have no kids have no wife everything a married to the game i'm literally buried to the i'm challenging you right now john you're not the best in the world i'm the best in the world do you think you're better than john jones right now list like he like he should be a hit me like dude you got knocked out by this guy i trust that guy i got a little i think he wil john's competitor you know he wants to be the best in the world and he is right now for now but i'm telling you i am better i'm ready i'm ready to step in with this man so it seems like the man you just a regular man all right we will leave it at that i guess i don't think there's anything else to say right the dismiss this because a lot of people calling about stepped down as great tony ferguson one said defender vacate best i've never lost of never lost on kill anybody said of never lost undefeated let's one four three what does that mean love i love i remember that would have to a little bit of backing told me great job great by a i just heard it feels like they like you know why like i said or like you said you came into that fight ranked number four we'll see where you end up and you are you know one of the few undefeated prospects left or even think you're a prospect anymore contender i should say fighting at light heavyweight so there you go there's the longest and you need six you've seen is in a game this is a oh let's see if he loses like nah my turn i'm up let's go thaddeus he ever what music is he refuses to lose comes up in fights this man so i got connected at this point are you going to stick to your guns on this one yes sticking my gun on this one i'm tired of laying out these random bodies off the champs had on my mantle oh my what is the message to him because you know he's okay with you would you be comfortable coming back that soon irving mainland you're ready and so at this point if they come to something else what will you say oh we want you to fight this guy or there's young black hole with us fighting jacker who are john or busted if they're on board but they're about to be onboard how so anyhow okay what did they say to you after the fight did you get any feedback from the brass come out on my you know he's never been stopped before he's never really been beaten point we fight when he stops highs management i will not come out all right we shall see thank you dominic woken and all of a sudden we are not one of the best heavyweights in the world number for the world i just knocked out chris wideman in a million forty three seconds you've got a pager thank you dominic rhys fired up you heard it here first when he fights john jones he's knocking them out shape this very much and i hope for your sake you got the fight as do i all right we'll talk soon good luck and congrats fight you should be the number one contender in my opinion you're street i know the game you know they want they wanted to sell tickets you know they wanted wideman okay can i just ask because you 'cause you're tickling my fancy here how would you be john jones what's the path you see it i see the path yeah i wouldn't be on here talking about john jones if i didn't think better than john jones i could beat john jones the highest among active light heavyweights one of two fighters to start their UFC career at light heavyweight six and older machida started at eight no and i want to make we'll see okay one more excuse me one more guests to go on today's program she had big win on fridays well in boston she's one of our favorites on the you're going to go up to heavyweight and if you're gonna go up to heavyweight like there's always an interim fight you know then people could see you know me fight oh boy you know they're they wanted him to win so they could try to sell wiedeman versus domes no why if wiedeman would beat me oh my god wiedemann's man no a lot of feedback after the fight because i together boy like why was there boy like the locus wiedeman who doesn't like chris wyoming but it's so you say right here now october twenty first two thousand nineteen you will knock out john jones if you fight 'em absolutely i will not john jones when came in my turn by turn i got too much fire in my heart too many skills it's time to test the chance fire's burning brighter than ever ever ever old man and i heard they want john to come back early they were talking maybe january february with this yeah that's right i have to say peanut butter very underrated my favorite ingredient in a milk shake or smoothie so i feel like program but i have to say we've got a bit of a bone to pick with our next guest she is meatball molly mcken who's kind enough to join us she's in the car right now what do we got in there lisa's amalio coulter where's it from cheese john i'm next man and i don't care what jones's management has to singing outta here with that dude you know joe johns well you're gonna find me what do you wanna do are cut from the same cloth is that your go-to as well all the time okay yeah it's the best but i also have to say molly then disappointed i have a bit of a bone to pick a couple reasons first off after the fight there i am giving you props as as a i'm gonna gross proved with my my hands i've proved it with my skills what else can i say i'm the best it's running it's prove who's seven by KO or TKO excuse me long as active win streak in the light heavyweight division your plus two point seven nine significant strike differential othello blue as a fellow evertonian and then i just got ta get ganged up patty pellets coming after me everyone's coming after me and you have see win streaks in modern light-heavyweight history i gotta say i like this fired up dominic chris i like this guy this nice bit of a chip on your shoulder there's options dominic anderson walker winner yawn versus jacques array there's heavy i feel like that's the all right fine i'll give you pass on that one molly although i have to say you know hearing in order to be found in fact i even had to tag you in i actually literally tagged you in the string of tweets i'm getting attack here's patty coming after me and and make now i really do and i know that walker could fight MSG and everyone goes crazy but i i don't know i feel like you could sell it right now he's ready he's undefeated feel like that is her name matilda as what is her name matilda go i'll get i'll give some stats about what you've done as of late like i said twelve hundred as a pros six zero and the UFC all nine of your stoppage wins have come in the first round where to be found where were you i'd like to know what were you doing what was so important that you were doing on friday night that you can come to my defense where was i i'm trying to support the cause of the blues getting attacked by the reds and i thought you'd come at some point to my defense also you told me you were going to come in studio after the win and you're nowhere to be found shrunk frank okay so matilda was the name of our cheese what does that is that a famous place in liverpool yet named archie foundation pantley oh milkshakes oh so we're kind of dog french bulldog oh how's that going and bill fans do you know the the tag team the british bulldogs now he's a french bulldog i know but there was a tag team from from england call the british bulldogs david and what are we eating their molly just a milkshake aerial oh is that a celebratory milkshake i've never thought much traffic before there's just so much i guess ruben all okay this is one of the byproducts of becoming a famous UFC star enough i have to say congratulations on the win but you seem upset with your performance i saw the quote that you gave out afterwards to the the CPR you seem very down why are you so down so with one minor and one loser okay you saw this at some point right i'm assuming a couple of later you saw the string of tweets or no i was sick in the changing room before komo's on then i was on the second the fight finished i was sick again a not really i've been through social media too much just like oslo any particular reason the trump to give it now we're these nerves or did you have food poisoning were what was going on now i didn't call anyways and you are any particular reason why i choose call us off i can't help it what's it called i was gonna coleman trade within our just come home because it got a dog now it quick enough on the flip side you could say because you are sick you know the fact that you want and looked at dominant is a good thing that you were able to overcome ext a i think zave one on a yeah i wouldn't mind you loans and against i'm happy with my progression the UFC and how my styles evolve and what i was very upset by i did manage to get the finish on a eight is that is that the thing that you crave after fight yet it's a milkshake and chicken wings oh yes dislike ronda rousey used to do it was ready all the train was amazing i just i was really disappointed of watched it back on biz students abused so in the fight according to get me second winds a felt like i've got those according i felt like i was going to be sick in the it's hard to not be sick whilst fighting okay wow so you said that that was your worst that even though you got the win got three in a row now you're feeling comfortable alike now now it's time to take a bit of a step or do you like the progression like you would you wanna be moved a little quicker or do you like the speed at which you're getting pushed here shevchenko a frequent opponents which i wouldn't mind a crocodile so so you're on the same card as may see you got a good look at aw i i i think we hit like we very often australian styles ferry i don't want to put too much lace on the fact felt sick aid to take away from diane's a performance take away to mottram yamba a are you like that matchup for yourself on who saudi macy barbara i think me and macy will tough an obsolete hey jennifer from the cage you get disqualified so i asked a coal bucknell felt like i felt like had so much more to give ariel on a couldn't smith and the dynamite kid and they had a bulldog named matilda now i don't know what you're going on a phone that says thanks all right fair enough opt-in opponents next year who thinking anyone in particular well i've been finks today so be honest out of see that may be from there right the adversity this is a a silver lining if you will yeah like upset by a on the UFC laughing my foot weeks a little bit different here is a a fall before five weeks you when i've seen it in cebu some things i've fought us the things she's the sister and we were talking about this macy like go after the sister and then you get the attention of the champ right yeah my wife keeps all twisted and as of now i would minds across the i don't know because i'm not so i'm not wrong chest and she's wrong so i don't know how it go quite arrogance insure of south with that on finally realize she's just someone chasing a dream on a she just believes in a cell phone johansen stop going on about page a. i wouldn't mind page minds may see a wouldn't mind on tony bother you still haven't gone into stoppage win in the seas is something that's weighing on you can you say that one more time does it bother you that you haven't gone the stoppage win interest is a town like dry out the night before the way i write on food i did feel names for the feist excite rush still didn't stop there was much more day to be honest from us on the floor name the US can do whatever they going to do i'm just going to say yes both i would really like it's a snack singleton off to win on my waist and i am now on my way stay i'm good enough to win so improving on rain i witnessed in preparation preparations goes and this complex was gonna serve smith okay that would make you confident she at your fight as well now she has to babysit the dog oh my gosh wow is it hard for her to watch you fight is a hard hud milkshake a chinese glades video games oh what a date wow what it will now which video game from bell look at that by the way speaking of that preparation working with owen roddy right yeah been also visually mccall's there's a man standing by your car yeah what's he i don't know we just it was a bit strange oh my gosh interesting that she wants to kind of i think that's part of the way that she's selling it but that is that is a good point it's a fair point i think it's a fight that people would like as well you know what the past few i've been a win awareness navis for this one why not because they feel like she tim come with the goat's with the goes and awesome fruits on yeah come on swear to god how did that go a took i took diane's on the seconds for like fourteen or fifteen months two shots a the training with little bits a with ryan cases j. scoffs a i even got to spar with shia wow you they could they could charge top dollar for that meatball versus the goat in a sparring match i'm telling ya now this is i'm sorry hello page we've just been a state license in europe see yet it really bothers me i believed that the fight been stopped in the second round on friday happen to crazy taxi a what else do we buy a racing game car racing was and she's wrong so i think a full yeah i feel like that's a great match up as well i think i think all three are great but i like i like where you're thinking about the shevchenko a bustle was one i wouldn't mind really would minded crock on tony shevchenko because obviously she's a shepherd due to intimidate him now i've got me sidekick who's that is that liam court m four ounces as well all my gosh that's credible oh wow she's but this is something you'll continue to do go train with those has my friend pete carroll likes to call her you were with her all weekend boston she got footage of you as you were going to the wayne's for the official lands you moonwalked yet to come over next week and then i'll go back over a a think she'd be fight in february omar keeps saying as as macy's why is macy trying to fight page on page house and she say she's going to be so beasley why would you celtics it was amazed in the atmosphere was real on a a set the precedent for when i competed they don't try are you join i tomorrow if it's not leveling new all koshen you to be pacified say it's just if it's a walk in the park why would she fight age on the way to the stage this was great yeah this feeling good look at you look at you there look at those moves icon respected name it's nice mix it up with different train and partners who zones go try and kill you sean ballots for aim so on hopefully if you actually london is march of hopefully so how taco fall you're familiar with him yet i watched them he scores well seven baskets he came on and we're just going fighting in the states as opposed to back in europe and in the talks kills yet what it's amazing communiqu until robertson drunk in hotel that's what you were doing i saw you went to a celtics game you got the gear and everything did you enjoy your time your it was amazing i got to see taco all seven foot six of them the moon walk in a it was just i just enough to cause any way say real to dry out the night before so the f. sonus and swept off air salt buffs and over so i was in good spirits to be honest and how did boston the higher ups are noticing that's why i got you see what i did so fast riser man on i'm a quick learner we just keep helping each overdose and speaking of because i knew that's what i thought that that's who you are referring to project but i know she was by your side mainstream mccord they are seeing the pistons play when i was a UFC two eighteen detroit with barbecue that was okay but this game so long wait in before me dunstan the stage and i went after you now so i nearly knocked me out i'll just show a east grade i love art martin may a mutual so you're not going to believe some on the call on some by and different if i'm not fighting and live appeal ashraful fights in a matter of fact okay wow it'd be nice to see them go told liverpool one of these days perhaps if dr until to win at UFC two forty four by the way i read something about you recently that i didn't know your your your mother overcame years of substance abuse wow so yes she's being around the block and she's she's the director of a charter cheaper when we were in new york unfortunately eat say see the big apple no not anymore conne connecticut short specifically demanded he's the producer of this program demanded that you'd be on this week so yes he said we have to have molly although they were disappointed when the cincinnati or cincinnati jeez close connecticut connecticut is i don't even know ebb yeah look at the difference sixty months make yup and it's been amazing watching you go through that journey you're always very you're you're milkshake with your significant other you enjoy the fruits of your labor and the spoils of victory and i'm looking forward to the accessible molly you're always very gracious with your time in fact corporate jake who's been getting a lot of heat on this program over the past couple of weeks because he's been cutting off the guests very knots in connecticut not much to be honest my show ESPN headquarters no it's a great place i don't wanna get in trouble molly trying not to get fired here but i hope you enjoy your x one next year in england let's do it you've versus antonina macy page i'll take any of those i really want to shevchenko that's role now because coach ellis was like because we rely heavily heavily intoxicated by this time i think it's great that you were hanging out with jillian robertson because she gave you your first so you guys are cool oster after she yeah i know i said the same thing when they made me move here but unfortunately here i am we clip this off and tell people this is how the guests react to tell them you know they have to come to a lot cooler rondo you weren't coming in studio because we had talked about this and then you kind of left me hanging sorta like the tweets but liverpool and everton was in new york and she's made me a better marsh losses the best of human and she humbled me big time so to be on the same cars hey when she lost when she came back the great andrew davis who by the way was disappointed last week when i was saying all the people that i was thankful for we we excluded him by mistake wasn't done on purpose yeah she watches them all but she doesn't come to america she doesn't like to tropical south okay sounds weird awkward of it nice win for molly mccann on friday okay at the top of the show i asked you all who should john a residential rehabilitation and she probably saved more lives than i could have account so a yeah i'm i've never been told she landed molly did a career high hundred and thirteenth significant strikes in a career high five take downs in her win this past friday and she's also the third a fighter to land one hundred plus significant strikes in three consecutive fights the other two angela hill and you wanna yonge check so she she watches her on facetime at the seconds of got out of the cage name she's everyone in england anyway okay jones fight next should it be dominic reyes who was very fired up if you miss that go check it out afterwards a very usually calm tom he's laid back he's just happy to be there very fired up earlier today on the program so dominic throughout throughout corey anderson florio because of not wanting to come across like a bit of a x-factor story on a unused shop story to get people to listen to me all to to pay but i just want to give them a shadow of the stats and info group at ESPN he does a phenomenal job a huge asset to the show each and every week with these factoid like this one on twitter you can only put four four options if there was a fifth i'd probably put other 'cause i'm curious if people i mean you could i know go blues thank you molly asked take care bye page slash johnny walker winner that's happening at USC to forty four and just a couple of weeks less than a couple of weeks MSG throughout the winner of st bay three no timetable yet well there you have it molly mcken nice win for her shoes little harden herself but there you go three and the UFC what steps do we have on her on a bunch of different ways but i'm actually shocked that walker anderson winner is in last place because the thing or maybe the the he asks the inspector the commission inspector if he can use his inhaler he has asthma this has been documented they don't have to decide right now but i would certainly put him in the driver's seat now let's talk quickly about this situation with greg hardy so case you missed it in between the second and third round let me new best friends wow that's amazing maybe you'll guys we'll we'll train together in the future the second cova trae i'm strong i was like jillian past you can you can look up some articles from back in the day where they talk about his asthma he asks the inspector aw me lots of flying back from new york on tuesday so i was a combat or combat with them and i was on the show could he use it the inspectors seem to never on camera but he seems to reply based off what i heard is it medical greg and that's all i wanted to real i just wanna pre- if i'm getting busted after fight cinema title i love it and good job not using an inhaler in between and they're telling him that they want him to wait and he's saying i'll just find anyone and i wanna find in december and they're not giving him anyone and they're not really open to him fighting someone who's says yes and then he says it's you sada proved at no point do i hear the inspector saying yes go ahead but it doesn't seem like he wednesday that francis is very frustrated that they're not giving them a fight he wanted the winner of dc dc loss and other going to run it back bring in marc ratner VP of regulatory affairs they all say t- legal and then like two hours later the fight that greg hardy won via decision gets overturned else but we've never seen the senate UFC fight haven't seen an actual like asthma inhaler be used and jacques winner and here we are with our pool and they're in last place so how about that so we'll see what happens i think it should be dominant is he i also haven't seen a fight get overturned that night without an appeal but we're told from mark ratner were told from the broadcast of this was illegal hud love and they decide to overturn it and apparently greg hardy is very upset afterwards and at the press covers look greg hardy is not a sympathetic figure we all know this who no contest and so initially when you hear all this you're like all right it's obviously illegal i've never seen anyone do it i saw king mon strikeforce one time pump something but it wasn't an inhaler lower ranked so he's a little frustrated i think the john jones fight sort of like how aniston went up to five and fought forrest griffin that would be a fun fight so those were the four options what are the he's polarizing puts it mildly a lot of people don't want him fighting in the AFC a lot of people don't want him fighting an enemy he will never be able to to to shed able to separate the past from the present the truth is in the massachusetts law they're nowhere does it state that he can't use this and so if his opponent would have appealed and they decided that he didn't bring it up the vada that's clear and maybe that's why mark ratner who's a former head of the nevada commission said that it was illegal every state is different he didn't tell anyone like what his team is saying look oh he told the inspector and that's the commission insolvent i don't know if i agree with that i don't hear the person say yes and be asleep basically one over to it and the change rooms and said if you wanna komo frittering where olga richard and couple of to show you the aim jillian change we live forever nothing to discuss he's still recovering from the surgery and throughout francis and gone i mentioned last week in my thoughts call which is wednesdays by the way not on mondays only got me a whole lot more excited after his interview on the show today but thus far it is not done i think they're probably gonna wait to see what happens at two forty four same jurisdiction i feel like the stuff what happened and also be like it's just another example of how a lot of these commissions especially these commissions that don't get a lot of big time stops them from doing it corner gives it to him does the pomp and we're on our way moments later daniel cormie dominick cruz on the broadcast and six percent right behind that franson got twenty two percent and in last place with thirteen percent is the winner of johnny walker corey anderson wow and so worth noting yonge curry winner because i saw a lot of people on friday saying to me oh what about the walker anderson winner or what about the gun amount of this and that but how do they know how do they know what's in it honestly like this may be a dumb question but like how do you actually know what was in that and how'd you know the levels that were in how do you know the amount that was in it i don't know like did you test it so i don't know why they were so quick to overturn it also sits the president of overturning something after it's another example as to why there needs to be a national commission why if everyone was just under the same umbrella going by the same rules about sports are sort of flying by the seat of their pants they're kind of making it up as they go along and maybe that's an indication of how young the sport is but i think the same would be for there'd be one set of rules and people would be able to abide by them and be like no one really knows what's going on we find out these things and the rules are on that fight you saw when they did the the split-screen on friday DC was like one more one more day one and none of it totally no sold that so so really that's not an official way and just because you're using something out of competition or even in college doesn't mean you're using it like in between rounds that's a big difference in my opinion and you can't ochsner kickboxing match it's just kind of crazy that we're being told it's legal it's not in the rules then they overturn it without an appeal the hotel i just sat a camman gail comforting so we spent about five hours gotten drunk together CPR is the name she's so if you can make a happen dave i just think it's a step all fa- make on i guess it really gets approved me we like my biggest takeaway walking away from where those two things a again if we had a national commission i feel like this would be wouldn't solve all our problems but i feel like added a little more i saw john mccarthy spoke to MMA fighting about it and wait in he would be a great resource so i suggest you go read what he had to say about it but see legal i've never seen this before and it seems like it would be a performance enhancer right yeah you have asthma but other people i'm sure have asthma and you don't see them do this like that is passed ever it's going to fall him forever and that's just the truth that's just facts and so people aren't going to defend them and i and i was surprised that they overturned it that quickly without like maybe confiscate it because because then there was jeff novitsky telling kevin that if it has people have to say mr corporate jake with just over seventeen thousand votes we have dominic reyes lead with thirty eight percent than the winner of steep a cornea three at twenty anymore detention aim i call it leaks out there so simple i'm very proud of me more choose amazing human the third round of last night's fight the inhaler was not pre approved by the commission for use during the fight in accordance with the commission's regulations therefore the commission overturned the wind cleared about no contest so they're saying it wasn't pretty doc and there's a line in there where i talk about how i was asked what were the things specifically what were the things that the news ufa regime did saint to different things so it's a bit of a mess as of right now greg hardy hasn't appealed he's deciding whether or not he's gonna appeal it's going to cost them some money and so we'll see what happens this was sent to us the massachusetts state athletic commission MS was made aware of greg hardy's use of an inhaler just before the start the previous regime or anyone who was a part of the previous regime or anyone who is a part of the foundation of the sport who tried to help get the sport legalized did you know what he's got to live with that he did what he did and he he has his past and everything that is i mean it's always gonna follow him but if that was just a bizarre thing and quite frankly took away from dominic raises win i thought the other great performances and so it was just very unfortunate i don't really have like a definitive answer on this i just kind of just wanted to and stretches things and it's like coming after me on twitter you could see the tweets and then i just reach out to text i'm like hey man every time i see you you say that a lot of work all that stuff and so i say this comment and john mccarthy on twitter comes at me and saying like an quite frankly i think makes a lot of assumptions me wh- what this really like i can't sit here and say this i was right the side was wrong it's all very gray my biggest takeaway from all this honestly is at a being written sorta like the the the new lands and all that stuff it's just all being done on the fly and so initially when you hear these people on the broadcast illegal you're like did i say that they did this unlike the previous regime nowhere in my comment that aired that talk about the previous regime that i- disparaged to try to get the the you have c. on-track to try to change the fortunes of the UFC and one of the things i said was that they ran towards regulation nowhere in my comment when they took over was run towards regulation that is a fact they tried to regulate i'm not trying to say that unlike the previous regime i'm not trying to the previous regime didn't do that but that is a fact quite frankly i expect more and i it doesn't change my opinion but like you know me you have my phone you text me a lot to go out like that and to try to do this to me hardy's team of saying they did tell them about it at the medicals on friday so i don't know who's we have to find find out in the questionnaire if it's written there but there the fact like we talked about the charles rosa thing once that fight is done if no one's appealing you're not overturning it so why did they overturn this whole thing very confusing and it's going to be interesting to see if this stands and what the president is from here on out by speaking of john mccarthy just very quickly we had this thing i was on the thirty for thirty chuck and tito it's the very definition of performance enhancing you're you're helping yourself perform most places you can't have anything other than water in the corner as dana white mentioned in the post on abraham lincoln or the first world war didn't live it i don't think that's a fair statement to make i'm not trying to say that i know more than you all i'm trying to say is one of the things that they did august and then you're talking about you're showing your tagging me and all these tweets and on and on and you're inviting all these people's come on look disparage me all you want you put me down i know that's a great thing that game why don't i critique you when you're interviewing people because i went to journalism school you're on the broadcast right i don't do that that's not the kinda guy that i am i don't talk that way we talked about talking about forty four we talked about meeting up sometimes you talk about these things and they don't actually come to fruition well guess what this time like you can have gatorade you can't have body armor anything coffee all these things so why would you be able to do that but if there's nowhere that's written and then and then we're said like it's you've gotta prove but to the best of our knowledge oussama hasn't come out and said that it's like the whole thing was just a expletive show to be honest i was in brooklyn meeting up with my guy action bronson action bronson has been on this program a couple of times the first time we met we talked about having multiple soup the you can't have this in the massachusetts like what are they go by and they haven't really they put out one statement whereas a statement next monday on this program here's a snippet left you and we can talk about lorenzo you should know because you were interviewed they take things ten seconds snippets and they put it all around you should know that this part of a larger conversation so if you want to get the likes you want to get a friend and that you're so proud of me my career you have a problem with something i say why are you putting me on blast if we're quote unquote friends why don't you come text me and say hey i don't agree with what you said was a little bit surprising and all the other stuff and to get all personal but i was doing this while you were in journalism school i don't know that's that's john mccarthy i know and by the way if we want it's gonna be great here's a snippet of that wishes i went to brooklyn on friday we talked to forty four we walked around the hood we even went to get multiple soup it was great and guess what it's going to air tim this god i was asked a question and just because i didn't actually stand in the courtroom i don't think disqualifies me from talking about it there are people who talk about or in line the beef and the this and the argument debate it's exhausting i love you all anyway speaking of love let's talk about love last friday someone finds an opening saying that i was in journalism school in your head i don't dispute any of that i don't know why we have to make a personal dispute anything that you said as far as where you were and where i was when this stuff was going on respond to someone it turns into a whole thing and then of course you know all this stuff and i just regret or even responding by come on enough already there we go on all these shows we talk about this you'd that there's ten seconds snippets taken all over the place and we're talking about a whole bunch of stuff i was talking specifically about the era the new era so that'll be on next monday now a lot of you have also been asking me when is my interview with AT as gagnaire remember this i went to madison square garden and they opened the place up that conversation is going to air on sportscenter throughout the week but the unedited version like a like a shorter version but the full unedited sit down and we did a lot there we walked so that was actually done by nate's let me tell you i have long believed that anytime there's multiple soup on a menu i have to have it even if i'm not in the mood i just have to have it i just do i just love multiple sousa great outside of a dublin pub mcgregor has not commented on this at all but his publicist said in a statement time he was very gracious it was a lot of fun and i can't wait for all of you to see it and it's a great way to get us ready for UFC two forty four which is happening not this weekend next weekend is for us thank you dylan and the team larry the team over at MSG it was just mia nate at MSG a couple of weeks ago talking about two forty four well like i have respect for the people who built the sport and i don't believe that just 'cause i went to journalists go i'm an expert at this and i think that you should know because you were on this documentaries one take home the events no fight has been signed no fight is done he is hoping to return if all goes well in january he was hoping for jeez louise tagged all week about this stuff never ending exhausting as i said are you guys done talking about this the one time seen over the weekend the new york times on saturday posted a story that a woman has accused mcgregor of sexually assaulting her last week in a vehicle fight the winner of tony whenever that happens but he's he's probably gonna talk a lot more about this big announcement to make he's going to be with people in conjunction with this you know this this whisky tour and the parametric saving some gambling site in russia but nothing really formally sure he'll talk about his future in the back and forth meant that the investigations are ongoing but he hasn't been approached by the police and he hasn't been arrested and he hasn't been charged and he hasn't been questioned at all so that's where things in your times conor mcgregor is frequently the subject of rumors he emphatically denies any report accusing him of sexual assault reached by ESPN i'm reading this off the story stand right now as far as that story is concerned he is going to russia and the ukraine this week is a story that he's going to be holding a press conference around we went to the locker room we looked at the the memorabilia it was great we spent like three hours there but the full unedited sit down which was around forty minutes will air on this show next monday as well intent on returning next year and fighting three times so we'll see what happens but the the frankie edgar fight with somebody that he wanted frankie wanted the UFC didn't want to and never really got past is great we're calling it matza ballin with action bronson arnold for actually calling it that but maybe this could be my new thing where i go and meet up with famous people and have multiple soup with them and talk about maybe personal videographer slash photographer allies goodyear as he did a behind the scenes but that is going to err on next week's show as well so stay tuned for that i think you're gonna like it very much he did and what i said was a fact if i said unlike the previous regime then i'll own up to it but i didn't say that all right i did not say that so can we drop this already oh so you know when i first joined ESPN i said that i want i want to come here it's a dream come true of mine to be here to work for this company this is always where i wanted to be ago that was incredible now you're getting the rematch in the finale for the bell tower welterweight title and finally before i go it's a busy weekend but i something very exciting to announce dreams with cassidy and kendrick last march in oklahoma city got to do draft lottery show with the crew that was a lot of fun remember now they're shooting for january it appears as though the frankie edgar fight is pretty much dio a talk to thirty one here in connecticut on friday that's frank mir versus roy nelson to we got the US's saturday morning on ESPN plus we posted on saturday afternoon mcgregor's team referred to the statement given to the times of kline to comment any further the irish police service the garda send us they headlined by damian maya versus been aspirin that's a phenomenal main event very curious to see how ben askin response and then saturday night perhaps the people's main event he is doing this in conjunction with pie match and proper twelve whiskey his own brand of whiskey that just launched in russia and he will be doing israeli you get to sit down with nate at length and i'm excited next show is going to be fun i mentioned con mcgregor at the top of the show as you may have i love the national basketball association i'm a huge nba fan i adore it and over the past year so they have allowed me slowly but surely to do some NBA coverage i got to do hoops green jeff van gundy and me that's the broadcast team i kid you not this friday euro powell on the sidelines hosting the dallas mavericks this friday my guy krista porzingus unfortunately zion is hurt but this is the home opener for the pelicans it's going to be sideline debut for an NBA regular season game mavericks pelicans on ESPN eight PM eastern i kid like if you told twelve year old thirty to cover MMA for this company is absolutely positively a dream come true to do this show that i started ten years ago a dream come true and that's going anywhere but you also know that how do i get that kind of confidence i'll tell you what on friday when i go to new orleans is going to be thinking about macy barbara twenty one year old macy barbara and the confidence that she possesses as you've been all that stuff anymore and so we'll see what happens but they are very confident and very he's helping out people who who battle with this as well she's a great inspiration we'll don't your mother she's twenty four years clean and serene on ESPN news that was incredible now we take it up a notch and i'm very excited to share with all of you that this friday in new orleans i will be a part of the is that there were never really any negotiations or anything like that big weekend coming up in MMA we've got one championship on friday we've got to do a draft night show that was a ton of fun as well i got to do summer league sidelines that was incredible i got to do the raptors championship parade show cass team making my NBA regular season sidelined debut my friends yes it's actually happening by palms are very sweaty just talking about it new orleans pelicans roy mcdonald against douglas lima two in the finale of the bell tor welterweight grand prix remember i fight like a year and a half or so we got we got action and who knows what else we got going on but for now we shall say goodbye it's been a fun day i can't wait i'm super excited and thanks to everyone who's giving me this opportunity bible forget all of you i'll be back on monday we'll do this whole song dance all over again thank you very much to macy barbara coming in her debt her dad is a great guy lucky barbara what a legend this man is the guy calls me two months ago and says oh yeah we're fighting in boston we're interested in oh by the way i got another game to christmas day celtics rafters i will be on the sidelines for that to christmas day celtics raptors mm-hmm and he's hoping to fight three times i'm told from member of his team he's hoping to fight in january then fight the winner of mcgregor me mazda diaz and then enrolled me that this was actually a thing that was happening he would not have believed you literally a dream come true for me and i'm very very excited very thankful to everyone at not only the NBA team but the team for allowing me to do this doesn't conflict with anything i'm not going anywhere but this is just an amazing thing that has been afforded to me and so i can't wait this friday hope you watch it on the sidelines mike breen jeff van gundy are you kidding me the voice of the knicks the voice of the NBA former coach of the next enemy this is insane insanity this friday and so kamali mechanic congratulations sir back next week same time and place until then i say peace i walk onto that court i mean that's just a very impressive thing so thank you very much to her and her dad coming in studio i appreciate it very much thank you very much joe lausanne congratulations to him if this is the end while don my man but respect for keeping the door open thank you very much to nico price congrats on the win thank you very much to dylan and we want to come in studio and i'm like

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Breaking Down Tonights NBA Draft: The Players, The Picks, and Virtual Fashion

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Breaking Down Tonights NBA Draft: The Players, The Picks, and Virtual Fashion

"No matter while cross save american camera you'll matter what the drive is among gobi excited. Steve user controversy treated as across the state of names duty and call and won't play for team in last names on earth that was potential number one overall pick anthony edwards on. Why a dream that comes true virtually can be just as meaningful as the real thing. Yes the twenty twenty. Nba draft is finally happening tonight after no march madness and five extre months of anticipation and today espn draft analyst. Mike schmidts catch you up on everything you need to know. As the team's picking in the top three timber wolves warriors. Hornets are on the clock. I'm pablo torre. It's wednesday november. Eighteenth this is. Espn mike schmidts. Thank you for joining me mandy day that you work towards every single year has finally arrived. Yeah i feel like this is our our super bowl and we've been waiting for this forever. I we thought it was going to be in june. And then maybe october and now here in november so you know i think teams and myself are very excited to get this one of the books. Mike schmidts is an nba draft analyst for espn. And he's been traveling the world scouting nba prospects for nearly a decade. I love the nba. draft personally. I went to the draft at the garden. Growing up in new york as a sad knicks fan and i still love the draft. Which tells you something about my own personal pathologies. The weirdness of this draft mike. You said it. This is going to be held in a way that has never been seen before. It's going to be entirely remote adam. Silver the commissioner. Mark tatum the deputy commissioner. They're going to be reading out. Picks live from espn studios in bristol. Where you are right now. So tell me what it's been like for teams and for players to go through this whole draft process in the midst of a global pandemic. It's been very very challenging for teams and players alike from the team side. They're used to having march madness the nba draft. Combine tournaments like portsmouth invitational. Which is where you see. You know a jimmy butler and some of these seniors pop up. They're able to have their individual workouts one on one workouts team workouts. I really have these guys in their building and this pre-draft process that just simply hasn't been the case so think you have teams kind of relying on a lot of these zoom calls right. We've all been kind of zoom jail more or less for the last few months You know they're relying on film. They're relying on intel and then from the players perspective. I think they just want to finally hear their name called. I mean this is the moment that they've been waiting for their entire lives. And so i feel a lot of these kids just having to have this. Push back and push back in push-back. They've each had very different circumstances. I mean some guys are like in the gym working out with nba players. Every day. some are with you know their brother and their cousin and some empty. Jim just one on getting workout. Since so it's been very strange. I guess the thing. I think of when i think about what might be lost in this iteration of the draft like are they going to be suits mike. Are we gonna get like nba draft fashion. That we've been blessed by in the past. Oh we're getting it it's coming it's coming virtually you're not gonna see that same strut the same level of excitement that we generally get in barklays within walking up on the stage but from everything i've seen out on social media everything i've heard. I think the suit game is still going to be strong. Yeah i just want if one of those guys wanna go retro and bring back like the seventeen but in suit. I just wanna make sure. The camera frame contains all seventeen of those budgets. We're gonna do everything we can to get that done. I hope we really really highlight the fashion. Because that that might steal the night to be honest i want to take a deep dive into the top three players in the draft to start here because the three of them. You've been talking about relentlessly for months. Now lamelo ball. James wiseman anthony edwards. They're all still in play for the number one overall pick which belongs of course to the minnesota timberwolves and i want to start with lamelo because we know as the brother lonzo the son of lavar and he chose to play overseas australia instead of going to the college game but for the uninitiated ear. What is lamelo offered to whichever team does end up selecting him tonight. I think he's the best prospect in the draft. Honestly i think if he played at duke kentucky enter any big name college program and he didn't have some of the questions about kind of the circus that has surrounded him at times in his life. I think he would be the runaway number. One pick in terms of his game. I mean he's a big point guard. Six seven close to six foot. Eight is one of the youngest players in the draft. Who was a late bloomer. So i think people remember him as the young you know twelve year old looking kid bomb and half court shots but he's really grown into his frame as great size has the ball on a string as a ball handler. He's incredibly shifty and smooth and his playmaking is ridiculous. The way he sees the game is really really special. I've described him as kind of like a supersized. Trae young in some ways You know he's not quite that level of shooter but the same level of show three. He's that type of player. Who's gonna bring excitement to any franchise still has some questions to answer about the defense. The decision making the shooting all those things. But i like. I said i think if he were here stateside and people saw him in a more regular basis he the runaway number one pick. You're able to spend some time with lamelo out in australia because you travel the world as part of your job as nba draft guru for us. What it lamelo have to say about how he developed his own game. Yeah it's been a very very wild journey you know. He's not a man of many words. He's very brief in interviews. And even it's funny even when you ask him about certain plays that he's seeing on the floor. He doesn't really even know how to describe what he seeing. What's going through your head here. Like why do you have such confidence and kind of passing these guys open. Like what are you seeing at this point Pretty much just a game. I've been doing it for a long time developing when i was young inches pretty much. Just know how to like make passes like that just a little things. He's like man. I'm just playing basketball. This is what. I've been doing my entire life but i think it was kind of a nice break for him to be away from all the cameras in lithuania when they decided to leave high school and and jump overseas in start playing in lithuania and so i went out and saw him there and going to a practice and a game. It was madness. It was chaos. I there were reality. Show cameras everywhere. He looked miserable and to go from that to then seeing him in australia where he was very free it he was able to focus strictly on basketball. He seemed much more at peace. And so i'm hoping for him that he lands in an organization where he can finally be in one spot. I mean this kid has been at chino hills high school and then he goes to lithuania playing for this club. That you know nobody had ever heard of it. It's not like a premier team in europe and then he's playing in the j. b. a. which is basically was lavar league and then he goes to spire academy it was putting up like i think stats see here. Forty points. Fourteen rebounds eleven assists per game so that was kind of like the globetrotters and then he goes from there out to australia. So i've never seen a pre-draft kind of development path like this so for him to finally find a home and it potentially going to be one of those three franchises. I think will be kind of a sigh of relief for him. Honestly i wanna talk to you about a circus of a different kind. That has been following around the big man at the top of the draft. James wiseman because the way that most of america got to know weisman was at memphis and we cover that story quite a bit on. Espn daily but for those who don't remember back in november twenty nineteen. He got ruled ineligible by the aa for accepting over. Eleven thousand dollars from memphis coach. Penny hardaway he gets suspended by the nc double leg chooses to leave memphis in january hires an agent to get ready for this draft and he's also by the way this tremendously talented player with a ton of upside. So how would you describe. James wiseman skillset as we stand here today. He's maybe the most physically impressive center. Prospect i've ever evaluated. He's close to seven foot one. Seven five wingspan. Nine foot. six standing reach. So that's close to rudy gobert territory and in terms of the reach. He's very very graceful. As kind of a guy who runs the floor can catch lobs. I can protect the rim. Lexington spent a racing another one. That was solely. He's very fluid with the ball. Like we're seeing more bigs in this game you know handling and playing out of these handoffs and different kind of more modern actions and i think teams who really like him envision him being able to do some of those things. I've described him as like Deondraye jordan with a little bit more skill a big guy really runs the floor catches lobs block shots and then also a little bit more modern income potentially step out. Shoot three and handle little bit. The difficult part with him is just. There's not a huge resume. Obviously just the three games for for scouts to evaluate him off of a and then also it's going to have been a year since he played a competitive game by the time he steps foot on an nba court. And that's the same for lamelo ball and that's what makes this so tricky when evaluating these top guys so i do think it's going to take him a little bit of time to adjust. You sat down with wise men for this interview over zoom. What did you learn getting to actually talk to him. Virtually face to face. Yeah he is a great way about him. He has a great personality. He's a smiley kid in that setting. Who do you think are some of the best rim protectors that you've studied every day. Roberson check if somehow finger-wagging. You got that okay. We've been interviewing him since he was fifteen years old so for as much as he's a mystery to solve your general fan or even some nba teams or maybe a little late to the game. I mean he's been in the usa basketball program since two thousand sixteen. So we've been able to get to know him very very well throughout the years despite the limited resume and i've really seen him grow over these last i'd say eighteen months or so from a guy who was very very shy a little bit introverted. He still that way didn't always play. Hard was kind of a selective competitor to somebody who is really really starting to play with with a stronger motor and and i think we're gonna see that in the nba so the other potential number one pick. This is the guy that is looking like the most likely number one selection in your view is my understanding. And that's anthony edwards out of the university of georgia. So what should we all know about. Edwards's game and also his personnel. He's an incredible talent. His ability to score the ball out will is one of one in this draft. There's edwards in transition. Gets off a three and i was at the maui invitational now. I saw him go for thirty. Seven points against michigan state. One of the best teams in the country thirty three points in the second half and he looked like an nba put on another pair of jeff. Zip to protect myself from anthony edwards raise. That was jeff. Why leonard jaanus unit. Whatever defender you wanna put out there like. They couldn't have stop when he's really really engaged and locked in. he's really good. he's got great size. Six foot five strong two hundred twenty five two hundred thirty pound frame six ten wingspan. His measurements are actually very much on par with like james harden. You know not a future all famer. I don't want to get ahead of myself. But how scores the ball in somewhat similar ways rivals hardening in some sense. This is a kid who's been through a lot in his life. He lost his grandmother and his mother who were basically the one's who raised him. He lost them within a year span. You know his brother and sister had joint custody of him. You know more or less throughout his high school years so he loses them in eighth grade and he's just kind of trying to find himself you know. He was a a football player growing up. He had these physical tools that were just incredible and then he started kind of shifting fulltime to basketball and his talent just really really started to pop. And when you sit down and get to know him. He's an incredibly charismatic kid You know there are days when he's a little bit down and he's not going to light up a room but when he's feeling good i mean his smile. His charisma his joy. He's extremely personable. We did a film session early in the year and it was my favorite one of the year just because i got the best version of him. Explain your personality like how would you just have yourself own court. I feel like no matter if playing good or not like. i'm energetic. All the time for my teammates as you can see when i have on my teammates. Doing i'm jumping around. Sega have went off scoring and they they scoring jump. No matter what's going on. I'm jumping around all the time. You could see how he would be a fan favourite. Potentially down the road all of which is to say that there is uncertainty at the top of the draft. But you have a sense. It sounds like mike. In terms of what order. This could shakeout timber. Wolves one warriors to hornets three. What do you think we're getting an order. I mean it's still wide open to be honest but we've gone with anthony edwards. He makes the most sense fit wise with the timber wolves. Just because you have diangelo russel already. Who's kind of ball. Dominant cerebral guard. And you already have. Karl anthony towns the face of your franchise. You would think that lamelo ball and james wiseman don't make a ton of sense there i would say wiseman number two two golden state pick could very much be in play as well. You know you hear a lot of trade talk right. Warriors are on a different timeline than most teams drafting number. Two and my thought there is. Mba big have become kind of like nfl. You can get one for pretty cheap on the free agent market but wiseman is the name that you hear most with them and then lamelo ball. I if if he's kind of the the leftover of the three there to the charlotte hornets. I think that would actually be a really really interesting fit. They have a young well respected head coach. And i think having michael jordan as your owner you know with any of those questions about the quote unquote circus or whatever. You wanna call it mike. How is lavar and michael jordan. How are they going to get along. Do you think that's what we're really getting at here. I will the the real thing we need to figure out how we could live stream a one on one game between those two. I think that could break the internet. The log awaited one on one game between low bar. Mj yes oh my god. So that's that's how. I see it shaking out but i still think it's going to be all right coming up. I need you to tell me about. Some players will see outside of the top three that could make an impact including this mystery. Man was climbing up teams draft boards from the moment. They're born you do everything to keep your kids safe. But who's looking out for you as you look out for them. Be volvo xc ninety. Suv with advanced safety. Technology helps look after you from the standard blind spot information system that watches your sides. You can steer you away from urging traffic to standard cross traffic alert with auto brake. That watches your back and can automatically apply the brakes for people and oncoming traffic as you reverse. It's nice to know that someone is looking out for you. The xc ninety for everyone safety visit volvo cars dot com slash. Us to learn more V twenty twenty. Ncwa tournament is how we usually get to know. All of these players is how the public meets them. Oftentimes for the first time and that was one of the first sporting events that got cancelled as a result of this pandemic and so one player. That certainly would have benefited from that. Spotlight is dayton's ob topping. Who has this remarkable background. Because he is the son of a new york street ball alleged who is nicknamed dunkers delight which is quite honestly enough for me to know. But what else should we know about obi top. Maybe the most unprecedented physical jump that. I've ever seen from from a late bloomer. Now i wasn't there watching him at ossining high school as a six foot five senior when he first dunked you know i wasn't there watching him at mount zion prep when he did a prep year. But when you talk to people who saw him back then they say he was soft and unproductive honestly as a six five senior. He was kinda. There's lanky kid who didn't really have any division one buzz whatsoever. And so he was set to go to a junior college he was going to go to monroe college and it's funny his mom kind of outlined this story for me they were at rucker park. It was a a june day. I forget the maybe twenty sixteen and he was supposed to sign a monroe college the next day because prep school can be really expensive so he set to go to monroe college. He doesn't have great grades and his godfather comes through to watch him catches wind of this. And it's like no. No no i can't go to junior college. We're going to send him to prep school. Gimme like twenty four hours so we asked for twenty four hours and a week later he ends up at mount zion. Prep school in baltimore and throughout that year. He sprouts two six foot eight. He's dunking he's explosive. He's starting to look more like his dad as a player who was one of the best dunkers i think. That new york's rupaul. Scene has seen and maybe the last ten twenty years ends up at dayton. He's an academic redshirt. He grows another inch and then he starts playing his redshirt freshman year. And i think there were like. Oh my god okay. We knew we may be a steal but we didn't expect this chapman ever since he stepped foot in a game that year. It's been this snowball effect this upward momentum. That just hasn't stopped. Do you have a sense as to where he might end up going or how high he might end up going. Yeah i see. His range is probably like four to eight. Maybe chicago at four. I think cleveland at five. He would make some sense. You know just played down the road in at dayton and maybe even six two to atlanta he'd be a great lob threat for for trae young. I think you'd be a lot of fun there. You would love to end up back in new york know just given what we outlined and i. I'm sure his his family would love that as well just being able to play in madison square garden and and all that so those are kind of the three teams that i look at most for him. Cleveland atlanta and then new york so from rucker and new york to the rest of the planet. Now i mean the international scene. Mike is one of your specialties. You spend how many months a year traveling globally. Usually i would say spend two to three months in europe or africa. I also go to africa and help Help coach the uganda national team. I'm actually finding egypt right after the draft two days after to help coach tournament out there so yes spending a lot of time away from away from the united states to check these guys out so based on all your global travels and reporting are there any international players in this draft that we should be looking out for in particular. Danny is is the biggest name that you know. I love just having watched him since he was sixteen years old. His father played for the ex-yugoslavia national team so he brings kind of that serbian toughness on that side and then his mother is from israel in he was born and raised in israel so he has this very unique combination of toughness from both of those regions is a perfect fit to me in in today's game. I've described kind of that six nine six ten forward as a queen on the chessboard. That's maybe the most coveted position in today's game. Now he's not. Don't expect luka doncic. That's a generational talent he. He's not on that level. I can see denny going as high as number four to the chicago bulls. They've had a lot of success in the past with international prospects. If you look at tony coup coach. I would say that's kind of the top of his range but you hear his name come up a lot with chicago's so let's go out of the top five a little bit deeper into the draft who are players that you're monitoring most recently who stocks are rising heading into this thing. Yeah the name. I have an an going international again here but the name i have a close eye on here is a kid by the name of z polka chefs. He's kind of the the mystery man of sorts of this draft. He's the youngest player in the draft. Eighteen years old described him kind of as a serbian bobole. Just like i if you throw on his highlights. He does some ridiculous stuff i mean. He's almost seven one. He shoots it off the dribble of the catch. He handles in transition he can pass. He blocked shots. And so i'm just interested to see where he ends up going on because he's kind of like this ball of clay. I remember you know a few years ago when it was thon maker and papagiannis who kind of crashed the lottery shock some people by by going a lot higher than they thought and i wonder if this kid could be the next one to do that. So the last ingredient of utter chaos introduced into your night tonight. Mike is this notion that oh by the way like all these people are getting traded chris. Paul get graded jrue holiday gets traded to milwaukee. James harden is looming somewhere unhappy with houston and russell. Westbrook is also looking out of the rockets. So what is your sense of. How a trade. Maybe a blockbuster impact what we find out happens in this draft. It really could. I mean as high as the top. The timber wolves golden state even chicago. All those teams are not your typical rebuilding team especially golden state from everything. I've heard teams in the top. Ten have been on call after call after call after call because we're basically merging the draft in free agency. Were squeezing it into this like three day window. So i could see a ton of movement know at the top of the draft in teams would would love to get their hands on a top five pick and then flip bit for a player like i could see a lot of three way deals just because of some of the teams that picks the top of the straps so again chaos is probably the overused word. I think it's the right word when we're talking about this mike schmidts thank you so much for making sense of that chaos and also say flight to egypt. I will be rooting for uganda. From now on yes. We need three. Now it's common thanks. I appreciate it okay. Up next how basketball is the only sport where a prospects wingspan is a startling. Leave valuable commodity ever wonder just how far and extra mile really goes drive mercedes benz van and find out. Start with a network of over two hundred and fifty authorized dealerships backed by salesforce ready to help you with everything from customization. To service on vans the mercedes benz sprinter. That's tailored to your life style with options like blind spot assist and mb you voice technology for directions and more so you're enjoying life on the trail or working hard on the job. Cdl foreign extra mile can really go by taking the first step into an authorized mercedes-benz van dealership today now with irs section 179. 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Gladiator: Aaron Hernandez and Football Inc.

38:04 min | 2 years ago

Bristol | 2

"Listen to note this episode contains some adult language in themes. Before Aaron Hernandez became a star in the NFL before he was on trial for murder. He was a kid growing up in Bristol, Connecticut, Jeff Morgan coached, his high school football team. He was wide receiver at that time his first year, you know, he was unbelievably fast and the body on him. It was almost like had the body of a senior. He really wasn't a freshman. Morgan was an assistant coach at Bristol central during Aaron Hernandez, freshman and sophomore seasons, and he was a self-described disciplinarian. And my flat fee was though swearing on a field in Hernandez, a sophomore year. He broke that rule. And like I said, that was a no, no, in my book on the field. So I told him immediately won't practices over me on the hill. All the players knew what that meant. The hill was next to the school be ordered to run that bluff was a pretty typical punishment. And when practice was over all the other players went in. And they were laughing at him and he took off his helmet and the shoulder pads, and he got on his knees and he said, please coach don't make me run. That's when Morgan pulled out his cell phone. I said, you don't start running. I'm calling your father. So then he took off up the hill. To coach it showed respect, Hernandez, father seems strict. Well, I believe is father was hard on him because he wanted him and his brother tech sellin sports. He stayed on him as far as his school work because he wanted him to have good grades, Aaron respected his father. But there were warning signs that this was something altogether more serious. I know one time he went to a senior dance as a freshman, and I guess he was drinking before he went to the dance and they throw them out of the dance at the school. And then the next time we saw him ill like that. I guess his father did discipline him some more than some. He had a black eye. I'm assuming that's where that came from in a call from jail later in life, Aaron Hernandez remembered his volatile home, grew up in a household full of fucking arguing plenty of light or that. Hernandez home, violent, physical abuse was a frightening fact of life. From the Boston Globe in wonder, I'm Bob holder in this gladiator, investigative series about Aaron Hernandez and football Inc. This is episode to Ryssdal. Bristol, Connecticut, just two hours. Crystal, Connecticut is a former industrial city in the middle of the state, not far from Hartford. It's now a middle class suburb with a rich sports history, Babe, Ruth and such page played there, and it's home to the world headquarters of ESPN. It's also where Aaron Hernandez was born and grew up my spotlight colleague, Beth Healy picks up the story. Jonathan Hernandez says his parents always wanted him in Aaron to be a part of Bristol's sports history. Aaron's older brother and his only sibling. Jonathan has a book coming out. It's called the truth about Aaron any shares for the first time, new details about what it was like growing up in their family. My mom. If it's not for sports, you're to be going to that community. College football was a ticket to something bigger. Better than that. And you look at options at that age, you're committed what your parents are into. In many ways. Jonathan and Aaron looked up to their father. Dennis, Dennis Hernandez was a star athlete at Bristol, central high school in the nineteen seventies the same school. Jonathan Aaron would go on to attend. Many people still new dentist by the nickname he earned in highschool. They called him the king. Dennis had grown up in a working class family with Puerto Rican roots and earned a scholarship to play football at the university of Connecticut. It was supposed to be a way to a better life, but Dennis Hernandez did not finish college in nineteen seventy seven. One of his football friends broken a house, gut caught and his accomplice ended up shooting a police officer while Dennis was not involved in the burglary or the shooting. He later admitted that he had tried to help the shooter flee the scene. He was never charged with anything, but he dropped out of Yukon. Then this went back to Bristol and became known around the city. For his charisma, the king was charming generous, gregarious people said, fatherhood, made him a better man. He settled into domestic life in a small ranch style house on a tree lined street with his wife. Terri, a school secretary Dennis became a janitor at the other high school in town, but he still lived on the edge. He would stay out late drinking with friends. When Aaron was three, Dennis was arrested for legendary trying to buy cocaine from an undercover officer. Jonathan Hernandez says his father instilled in the boys, a love of sports, and a lot of fear play in the little Fisher Price basketball and thinking of the little, you know, makeshift. Who my dad made with, you know, yarn in a paper bag from stop and shop playing in the three. In one hockey, you know, the three in one set flip it over. It's an ice hockey thing, and. I have a one stick because we were getting chased by her father about to get abuse. It was Aaron and Jonathan together in the house throughout their lives. People would sometimes mistake them for each other when they were younger, Jonathan recalls Aaron with spike up his hair like a porcupine and you have these, like these doubles that just really. Look like how his cheeks for missing because his dimples were so caved in so far. It was just an e just really just brightened up my day. Johnson says, they argued and fought like brothers do, but they loved each other and they stuck together through their fathers beatings, violent, very. You know, people have had it harder than me here having conversation with you. But it got so bad that at one time, Jonathan then known as deejay says, he threatened to call the thirties. The phone wants to go to Seco and his response was pretty much call them, and he handed me the phone. He said. I'm going to be even harder you and your brother. And they're going to have to pull me off of you when they knocked on the door. Jonathan says he would stay out late shooting hopes in the dark to avoid coming home, and then you start thinking, what would happen if I got to be, I'm going home. I'm hiding under my bed. Her Siham hydro under my bed because what's about to happen? Left the two boys with a complicated relationship with their father, your school, and you see someone act up or someone to our this, they didn't get beat enough. They were veered him. But according to Jonathan, they were constantly afraid of what he'd do. He said his father's excessive drinking played a role in his violence. I love my dad, the death. I do, I do. I love him. With all my heart is just the reality of of the way we grew up. Their mom, Terry Valentine graduated two years after Dennis from Bristol central. She was a ton twirling major at a quote under her senior picture describes her as a sophisticated lady Terry married the king in August nineteen. Eighty six, three months after Jonathan was born, but the home wasn't a stable one. When Aaron was nine, his parents filed for bankruptcy protection, and then things got uglier as Aaron remembered later in one of the jail calls the spotlight team uncovered. Seventh grade when the feds in the house too. Bro to the of do homework. Yeah. Teri Hernandez was wanted in connection with an illegal sports betting ring. She helped run out of the family's home. It in the door and have poor DJ had to be brought home by Windsor in with all the FBI. There. Right after basketball, but she later cooperated with authorities and was never charged. This happened when Aaron was eleven years old and his brother was fourteen. It wasn't always clear that Aaron would play football when he was extremely young and he wasn't necessarily always interested in sports. At first. He didn't seem drawn to the game that meant so much to his father. In fact, he wanted to be a cheerleader. My cousins were cheerleaders, remember coming home and. My dad put an end to that really quick. It was not. Okay. And my dad made it clear that he had his definition of a man. They're pushed football, and he pushed Aaron and Jonathan to work hard and be better. He took them to gyms and chase them around to keep them running, made them run drills, Jonathan began playing organized football in a Bristol youth league. My brother's a little too young to participate, and he's on the side. You know, you go and get some twizzlers at the concession stand and run around other kids and enjoying life. At the time. It seemed like Jonathan was destined to continue as father football legacy, not his younger brother. Jonathan says he an Aaron or constantly being reminded by their father of what was okay. And what wasn't for a man to do, you know my father and I hate to say this. I do not meet offence to anyone, but you know, it was used all the time in our house. All the time standing talking acting looking. It was the furthest thing you my father wanted you to even look like in our household. That was not acceptable to him. Will you stand the way. Everything. How you place your hands. That looks feminine dozen. You can't stand that way. Jonathan says his dad's words had a profound effect on Aaron person who look up to your, your your, that's your father. That's your king. And Erin had something else weighing on him, something he apparently didn't disclose to his family or anyone else until years later, Aaron was sexually molested as a young boy according to one of his lawyers and his brother. When we asked Jonathan about it, he said he wasn't ready to offer details. He also said he has not confronted the alleged abuser. This is something that people go through and it's stuff you don't wish upon anyone. Changes the way. You know, you live, you think guarded you become. Something that you don't wish for anyone. Aaron kept these painful memories to himself for most of his life. And he said his mind to playing football. The thing that brought him accolades at school and gave him his best chance at impressing his father. Did you know that sixty six percent of men start losing their hair by age thirty five. That's not a fun statistic to think about, but it also doesn't have to be scary. 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It was that a football practice early in their lives that Aaron Hernandez? I met Denison Suzy. I'm new him from flag football since Souci would later be the quarterback on Aaron's high school team and right away. I was good on my team. He was good. The differences he continued to grow. It was already clear that Aaron had a lot of athletic talent. He was gifted at a very young age, but he really grew into a beast and like a year or two later, I don't think size is everything when it comes to play in football, that's Dennis's father, Tim, but I think it's helpful. You know, Aaron was just a head taller than every other kid is age a step or two quicker and faster, and just stronger and bigger than everyone. So when you're out there playing football, it's nice to be bigger than. Everybody else. Tim coached. One of the youth teams, I had plans to teach the kids, some of the basic things of football, but he quickly ran into interference from Aaron's dad. Remember he was also named Dennis and Dennis Moore felt like what we should do because they were so young was not focused on some of that stuff and maybe just do a run right run left and and really much more basic kind of thing will he was down at the store telling Marty, you know that I'm, I may not have the right ideas moving forward. And of course, like the young foolish person that I was at times. I got a little overly upset about that. I called him up and let him know in no uncertain terms that I didn't need help. Well, the conversation didn't go well, a few weeks later, Tim approach, Dennis about it, you know, it's time to kinda shake hands and bury the hatchet, right? Hey, no hard feelings and Dennis came walking off the field one day down at the. Midget football field there. And I had reached out my hand to shake with him and said, hey, no hard feelings. And I kinda just did one of these numbers where he didn't look at me didn't talk to me kind of kept walking and me being the person that I am that has to say the one thing that's just too much and I says to him, I says, dentist, why are you being such an asshole about this? Well, promptly turn around and clocked me one across the face broke my glasses off my face. The police came and no one was more surprised than Tim Sanssouci at how they handle the situation. I'm telling you that when police came, they wanted to put me in trouble. Listen, here's a guy who was involved in the murder of a plane Ville police officer, and for some reason is Teflon. Nothing sticks to him. Nothing ever did since Suzy sued Dennis Hernandez. A small claims judge ordered Dennis to pay him three hundred fifty dollars and the matter seemed resolved. Although since UCLA later crossed paths with Terry, what I remember her saying to me very clearly was a, why told Dennis he shouldn't hit you. I told them next time just spit at them. Tim would never see a dime of at three hundred fifty dollars. Still his son stayed friends with Aaron. They began spending a lot of time together. Aaron had slipped over at our house one time. I think when they were maybe I just wanna guess maybe about ten years old. You know, their friendship lasted right through high school where Dennis was the quarterback and Aaron the wide receiver and linebacker was the star mean him used the love doing Oklahoma's against each other because no one else could tackle him at times. Oklahoma's are brutal blocking and tackling drills where two players go head to head. I shouldn't say that we there was tons of guys that. Through their head around, but me and Erin, like the competitive virus. I gave him a little bit of not. Everyone could game day. There was really only one player he needed to get the ball to. It was very simple. Whatever the play was, you know, Aaron was read number one, whatever route it was. I think my favorite throw to him was a corner out by this time. Aaron was a lot bigger than other players his age. He towered over teammates, dressed in the schools, maroon and white football uniforms. Opponents had no answer for him. I mean, he played tight end fake a post, go out to a corner, which I think was a seven, and I just throw a nice lefty ball right over his shoulder and it was smooth. The friendship mental lot to Dennis. There's a photo of them in their tuxedos hanging out of their junior prom. Aaron was a guy who is just a really good friend to knew how to make people feel good. So I, yeah, throwing him the football made me feel good as an individual. Aaron was one of the most popular kids in school, good-looking outgoing, not given to bullying or too much bragging. He played varsity football as a freshman, and he excelled at basketball too. He also dated Shanna Jenkins the girl who would one day be his fiancee as the years went on, he grew well, past six feet tall with a sturdy built. He was a man among boys, but he always seemed to have a little kid inside of him. His brother Jonathan recalled when the Yukon football coach came to the house to recruit Jonathan. I remember Mambi a nervous wreck pace in CC is a smoker. So this you smoke and she was a nervous woman. Smoking cigarettes. So frustrating meaner and used to hide them in the Dan for the freezer. So she could find him. Jonathan remembers peaking outside of his window. He looked like a little turtle trying to come out of its shelf, and he was like, is it okay to come in this living room? Like like Harry get. It's. It wouldn't be long before. ED's was courting, Aaron too. Like many kids, his age, Aaron sometimes partied and drank. And he started smoking pot almost daily. Eric came over my house first day, junior year quarterback. He's he's, you know tied and he's making it big and we showed up. We walked up to a school from my house. I only lived like a couple of streets down and we were. We were baked. Errands, breakout junior year at Bristol, central, Dennis, San Souci and Aaron Hernandez. We're one of the most prolific passing tandems in the state. Nine touchdown completions in the first four games. We all knew all the friends knew that here was gonna make it because he deserved it. He worked very hard at it is a freaking hard worker at what he wanted any wanted to be good football. Smoked weed before practices. And Aaron later said, he smoked before games during their junior year, Dennis got caught and was kicked off the team for the rest of the season. Aaron never got disciplined. He kept playing, Aaron kept dominating on the football field and the basketball court. But his brother says, he didn't get the praise he most wanted from his father. Aaron would score touchdowns or forty points in a basketball game, and you win. And teammates coaches happy, but then you get home and it's a whole different story. In January of Aaron's junior year, that demanding environment would change very abruptly. His dad went in for what was said to be a routine hernia operation, but he never came home. He died days later from complications of the surgery at age. Forty nine. He was ruined. I mean, yeah, it ruined Aaron, it ruined room Wyndham that Stennis San Souci. You didn't know how to even act anymore. No one knew how to control them. Hundreds of people came to pay their respects at Aaron's dad's wake. There was a line around the block. Dennis Hernandez was buried in Saint Joseph cemetery in Bristol on January ninth, two thousand six. A high school principal remembers Jonathan crying, hard at the funeral, but he says, Aaron remained completely stone, faced holding in his emotions when Jonathan headed back to college, Erin, had a much smaller family to rely on little Joe with no father. My mom is just lost her husband and going through her own emotional crisis. Afterwards, things took a downward spiral for Aaron was in college and Aaron was home. He was there. My mother. And. Was a completely different dynamic. His mother began dating a family friend named Jeffrey Cummings. He was married to earns favorite cousin, Tanya, when Jeffrey Cummings moved into the Hernandez home, Terry gained a companion, but she virtually lost a son. Aaron started spending long stretches at his cousin Tania's house on lake avenue in Bristol by all accounts. It was a home with a lot of chaos, drinking drug dealers and drifters. It was also a place where Aaron came to feel loved and nurtured by Tanya. She was fifteen years older than Aaron and became a kind of mother figure to him. She loved earn. Earn tuna death. He loved her. She was a person earns life that he really looked up to. She was really there since really. She's the babysitter when we were in diapers. House happened to be across the street from where another big influence on errands. Life began the field where he first played tackle football. There are job sites that send you tons of the wrong resumes to sort through. That's not smart. The last thing you need when you're looking for a candidate for your job is more work on your plate, but you know what is mart going to ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash gladiator to find your next great hire. Instead unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you. ZipRecruiter finds them for you. 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He lay motionless before a hushed crowd, Laurie Bill. Monte, a registered nurse was watching from the stands I saw get hit. I saw him go down and he didn't get back up and Aaron would always get back up than the coaches went out on the field. How many fingers, you know, that kind of thing. And he must have been totally out of it because the ambulance was standing by the EMT's immediately came up on the field and doubt him and took him. At the time, scientists were just beginning to establish a link between blows to the head and football and the disease. Now known as chronic traumatic encephalopathy or c. t. but much was still unknown a month after Hernandez concussion former Philadelphia Eagles star Andre waters would shoot himself to death at age forty, four. He was later diagnosed with c. t.. Aaron's concussion sidelined him for one game. He came back the following week and finished out his senior season. He was named Connecticut's Gatorade player of the year. Aaron Hernandez was the best high school tight end in the nation. He'd received a trophy case worth of honors, including a coveted invitation to the US army, all American bowl, a showcase for the nation's best high school seniors, his brother, Jonathan, who was playing quarterback at uconn, went home to watch Aaron play. Remember the day I go home and see him have this breakout game as it's hit me. I was like, wow, he's doing things that I didn't even know could happen because I was never that good or been around that kind of talent to see. Jonathan wasn't the only one who could see errands talent up until then he'd seemed set to follow in his brother and father's footsteps by playing at uconn. Listen, you can accomplish anything you want to and. You can go anywhere, and I just said, listen, just, you know, I'm really glad to have you Yukon, and it goes back to being part of, you know, just me going around seeing being brothers. One be together, Aaron, verbally committed to coach Edsel that he'd play football for uconn. Then and Florida came up. University of Florida was a bigger more prestigious program. A top three team. The Gators weren't the only big-name program that came calling. Notre Dame Miami, the university of Michigan, nearly every elite team in the country reached out. Aaron planned visit to Florida, and he seemed to be rethinking his options. Tolleson just be like, talked to me after you home. It's talk. Jonathan says he wasn't against his brother going to Florida. He just wanted to talk. I anyone at Aaron to keep his word to coach Edsel instead also get a phone call. He's committed and. Happened really fast. He chose to play for the national powerhouse in Gainesville. I was just upset that he didn't. He didn't communicate with me and he didn't tell coach before he committed to coach, Myron in their staff. For Aaron. It was a big decision just three months after so much devastating news in his family. He was sixteen and about to embark on big time college football career far from the troubles of home. Looking back, Jonathan, thanks. His brother was never comfortable with the person he saw in the mirror. He really struggled with reflection because of a lot of things that have occurred in his life, and Aaron always wanted to prove something to his father. Remember the time Hawaii rates. He's like, I don't know what else I can do. I don't know if I can do anything. And so I guess this the only thing I can do well, because the person I look up to it makes him the proudest. And okay if I do this, like maybe it'll bring this happiness that I've been searching for and seeking my entire life. Ahrends friend Denison Suzy remembers talking with him about his future plans. One day after practice father at already passed away. We were in the car and he just he opened up in many ways that I didn't really see before. And he was like, man, I wanna be all fame do this, like Aaron was somebody who is dedicated to be the best of the best at his position. Aaron would be one of the best of his generation. If only briefly Denison, Susie, meanwhile was bound for the marines. He says the two of them remained friends through Aaron's NFL career years later in April two thousand seventeen Dennis recalls being home with his father. He started screaming in the house and I woke up from the news was reporting errands, death in prison. It was a terrible shock, and there was more part of the reporting of the article that day. They said that aired had written three letters or a couple of letters that one of them was his gay lover in prison. And my first reaction was that this can't even be true that this has to be fake news. You know, Timpson Suzy was right in a way. No such letter has ever come to light. But the news about a possible gala in prison started a conversation between father and son, Dennis revealed to his dad. That his relationship with Aaron had also been sexual, but it was never a thing. You're with me. I'm with you. We'd live their own lives reform. He's he says, he and Erin closely guarded their secret, especially from their dad's. We didn't want people to know, and that's why it's hard for me to come out today and do this before we talked to him, Dennis had never spoken publicly about this, but he says he feels like Aaron would want him to do this. I really truly feel in my heart. I got the thumbs up for him. So what anyone else says, I just don't give a damn back in the day. Was frowned upon still in society got a negative stigmatism. We were Hawgood athletes who liked women, no hesitation about that. So yeah, the latte overcome, and that's why I say it was a trickle down effect into the marine for that's like now a man's man's group in your. You're trying to hide something just like Erin was, you know, all the tattoos that stuff. That didn't seem like Aaron to me. I have tattoos too, but he wasn't someone who seemed like he was going down the road of getting all those tattoos. But I realized as someone who's bisexual now to, he had to go different routes to try and show his thority because Aaron wasn't alpha and hearing got what he wanted in life. And I don't see anything wrong with them. It's taken a long time for Dennis's father to be comfortable with his son sexuality. When Dennis was younger, Tim, bottom poster. Everybody's familiar with the poster of this kind. It's of the three girls in the string bikinis with the rollerblades on rollerblading down the beach. Right. And I thought to myself, I would poster up their room with with some of that stuff and. And that when they went to sleep at night, that's what they look at, and and because that's what they were looking at night, it would somehow make them a heterosexual. And. And of course, I thought it worked. Listen, I'm a foolish person I've found out in in have been. I've been wrong about everything in my life. When Tim, I learned about Aaron sexuality after the suicide, he mmediately thought of what Dennis Hernandez with think his father's gotta be rolling over in his grave. I mean, Ahrends dad was a man's man. As far as I knew he was guys guy. He was a tough guy in some sense, you know. Since his brother's death. Jonathan Hernandez says he spent a lot of time thinking about the childhood experiences hand Aaron had and what role they played in his brother's life. I think. Thout writing. I don't know writing in. People. I don't know if I would be here today. I'm he is my ability to express. I said, a lot of it was held in this book was parts thing I've ever done. Going back to times in your life where. Just thinking about. He says, he's still processing a lot of what happened. Aaron didn't have as much time to sort out his past as far as his brother knows. Aaron never had any counseling or therapy. He says there were raised to think that would be a sign of weakness. In early two thousand seven, Aaron Hernandez would leave the turmoil of his life in Bristol and head down south. It wouldn't finish his senior year wouldn't go to prom, and he wouldn't be part of all the graduation celebrations arrangements were being made for him to graduate high school whole semester early. So he could get a jump on the coming football season. Cute arrive in Florida to play on college. Football's biggest stage and almost right away. He would find himself in trouble. That's next time on gladiator. From the Boston Globe in one, this is part two of six of gladiator, an investigative series from the spotlight team about Aaron Hernandez and football Inc. 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REShow: Scott Van Pelt and David Cross. Hour 3 (11-11-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Scott Van Pelt and David Cross. Hour 3 (11-11-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast wine production now available on apple podcasts. On one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Is the rich eisen show. I'm sure you heard it earlier. This year drew. And i'll place it in front of his always keen to know what you thought about the fact that you can't throw down the field the anymore. Apparently from the rich eisen show studio in los angeles warned making those statements. And do they know anything about football on the show. Baltimore ravens quarterback lamar jackson co host of good morning football. Kyle branch coming up. Espn sportscenter host. Scott van pelt plus actor david cross. And now you're rich is our number. Three of the rich eisen show is on the air. We've got scott. Van pelt Joining us from augusta national in just a few moments time here on the show. Great shot with. Kyle brandt nate. Boyer just last hour Lamar jackson joined us in our first hour of the program and and He was he was dynamite. Just so likable likable guy. I mean someone root for and just to see how he can. Just keep shining out and sunday night. Football is going to be his latest stage. And last year the sunday night football stage against new england went so well for baltimore propelled them for the rest of the regular season into the one seed. They were the clear class of the afc north and then at the time looked like the clear class of the afc. If your call that's when mahomes had as kneecap turned to the side of his leg. And they were matt mooring their way through that portion of the schedule wondering when they could get mahomes back and wondering what mahomes would look like so on and so forth and then as we know mahomes and the chiefs wound up getting the by week because the patriots in that night of that sunday night game started to have a one flaw after another show up and then that was the beginning of the end because this was november four th two thousand nineteen when they had that game as pete as peter king always mentioned when he's on the show talking about how the dolphins have turned things around. The dolphins had a better record after hollowing than the patriots did. Last year chiefs wound up getting a buy week along with the ravens and the to never met in the playoffs because the titans took care of the patriots. And the ravens. Lamar said against something interesting in that he said the The defense the defense. He's hearing is calling out plays that the ravens are about to run. Run pass or something like that. It's no good so that was an interesting chat with lamar. Who's one of my favorites. I i love the guy. They had a chat with drew brees yesterday. There's a great deal. I mean you got you got Stars of the game young and old colleagues nfl. I mean i'm just pointing out again that we're just try to have as many people and plus i i don't know if van pelt on hold i want them to understand he's not the only guy who gets the stars of the is he on hold for real world. Scott van pelt you there. I mean i just got done hosting a show for two hours or sorry that i wasn't there the second you needed. Oh my gosh word no i. I wasn't doing that. i'm i hope you're okay. Is everything all right. Are we good rahm. Just kidding i'm shoving. She's graduating my face. I was trying to pick up and for some reason. My polish growing up here. I am not to be here. I am doing great. How is everything at augusta. How's everything their brother was. It looked weird odd. Yes odd but still familiar if that makes any sense like it's like if you sell up if you said hey we're going to do christmas and we're going to do it in july. You go okay and then you sit out the tree and the decorations and your presence and he came down and it was ninety outside and you were opening presents in july. You'd think well okay. The trees familiar the presence that wonderful. I'm happy to celebrate this just odd because it's not when we typically do this so it's strange not having Not having the patrons as they're referred to hear the guests national is really jarring. They are such a huge part of the soul of the place and the players have all commented. It's just so strange and it will be stranger once the once. The event begins but just everything else is incredibly familiar. It's immaculate like it always is. it's a huge events. You guys are. Obviously they're going to do everything they can to win it. What does look like with turning leaves. What does that look like scott. Incredible it's not as there are as as They haven't changed as much as they. You know new england which i know it was a long time ago but you remember fall into england where i am now in dc whereas the colors of clearly kind of come and gone. It's not quite like that. There's some trees that have changed. But i mean it's still awfully green and I mean as i stand here looking at the practice range. It's more green than it is anything else. That's i'm i'm just excited and i guess what did they choose. Middle of november did they. Did they wanna make sure that. The course was closed for a while or what. What what was it. What is it heart of it. Think i think that the time in the spring the hope was that we'd be out of where we were in in terms of covert and and actually now i mean. Obviously we're testing more in this snap. But i mean it's it's not it's not any better But i think would. It gave the golf course. A chance to do is go through the summer and And the fall to get it prepared to compete. It'll be different in terms of How it plays. It'll play longer and then it's gonna rain a ton on thursday so that's gonna make it an issue But this was this gave them the best chance to have the golf course as they would have wished it to be to present the that scott van pelt here on the rich eisen show fresh off of the set of coverage four. Espn app augusta. National right here on the rich eisen show spoke to our buddy to rico on monday. And he said it's it's it's it's price into shambles week to be talked about and that by the end of the week. That's all we're going to be talking about would you Would you agree with that assessment. No okay no beat. Because i here's here's he'll he's gonna hit it a mile. We know that. And i might look foolish saying that now. But i'll say it because this place you hit as far as you want. Great you're gonna have you're gonna have shorter clubs into these greens again. Great he's got to put the ball better here or he will not win and the last three years. Statistically is strokes gained putting. He's dead. Last and andy made the deport pulling on the show that i found really interesting. That he's a guy who leans on his his putting books and the and the which kind of the they're basically the template each week on the pga tour of what the greens are. They don't have those here. And he's a guy that is really really has a fascinating mind and uses all of this all the intel and feedback much the way front offices use analytics and here is going to have to be more feel unless information and so i think maybe that's part of why he hasn't played particularly well. But also you're allowed to get better you. There's nothing to say that he won't put better this week. My my only counter to mike would be unless he putts better. He won't win if he does pop well then he he might win in a walk the way he did it at winged foot. But i mean he's gonna hit the ball places out here if it if it dries out any the people will just won't believe 'cause it's i mean it's absurd some of the things that we're talking about like driving over the trees on thirteen and hitting a wedge it like that's just play the par-five yeah i asked my if there's anyone that he any holes that he could table par for you mentioned the third and that's about it but i mean we're we're going to just see watch him. Jack nicklaus rich. Jack nicklaus said that on the in the right wind conditions that he could drive one. I mean i stood on one t yesterday. I contemplated that. And then i walked away. I mean make no sense man I it's i can't even fathom that that's possible but if i mean jack i defer to jack when it comes to national yes yes to that. It won't happen this week. Because it'll be too wet. But i mean just the fact that we're talking about that and i don't wanna get to golfie here but i mean the the chairman. Fred ridley said today that we're getting close to a call to arms about about how far the golf balls going. My guess is that very soon. Here you'll see the ruling bodies do something to limit how far golf ball goes because if they don't then you're going to run out of real estate for these courses took to be played on. Yeah i mean that's that's the question and just just to go down the checklist of what i talked about with with With mike Do we come up with a new phrase right now about if shambo does hit a ton and tear it up. Is it a bryson in the course or or. What's the one that three into shamba is augusta national. You can't you there. There's only so listen. Augusta national has the they don't they don't like the term money so indifference. They have resources rich and the resources they have are unlimited land around the golf course. But there's only so big you can make this place and there's nothing you can do short unless unless the greens are your defense. And they have been the defense against him thus far but in terms of making it long enough for nine thousand yards. And those you can't scott van pelt here on the rich eisen show who are not talking about. Who should we talking about this week. What do you think Zander's awfully Zander's shaw flee the guy that andy just picked him on the show. I picked him before. I got here. I mean he's finished in the top ten more than half of the last major in the last three years and he's he's finished second last year. you know. He's he's going to win majors plural. I i'm convinced of that And so at some point it begins. I it just. Now's as good a time as any but y- the thing about this course rich as you know. Is that there are. There are so many players who show up and think. Oh yeah like dustin johnson. I play well there jon. Rahm hasn't played here lot. He plays well here. Justin rose lost in a playoff there. And then they're all the guys that have won. It did show up and think i can compete so and justin. Thomas hasn't won it yet. He's getting better every year. There's there's so many people rich to come here and you and if they won you'd go sure of course and there are so many guys that you think will eventually win and then some of them like ernie els and greg norman and tom weiskopf and david divall never do so. Like it's it's it's a place everyone loves. And who's the guy lucky enough to be the guy that plays the best i mean. That's the. That's the thing i if i knew on wednesday i'd meet in vegas and we'd never worked again. Yes indeed. So you like zander sharply out of the top ten players coming in you. Do you like zander. Okay let's just say let's just say that if you take a second tier of players from ranking in the world between eleven and twenty a list in front of you because i might have texted you about that earlier who would you take in that and i might have done that homework and i might have put that list together. Already prepared to answer all right and this is just for me to utilize Let's say ama- okay because if you're because if you're picking against other people they won't make him they they should. He plays well here. He played well the last event he played. I like yama from those eleven through twenty okay and let's just say My buddy chris. Brockman decided to put something together where there's a third tier of players well between twenty one and thirty two. Would you choose from that guy. No one will have from that list because there are a lot of people that you could pick the co crack at twin or who one in vegas and hit the ball a mile again. I'm trying to give you some people. I don't think others would select because they're not as smart as me. Jason co crack by the way if Kilborn will act appreciate that. If kilborn was still doing sportscenter it'd be jason krakatoa right. That's that's you think All right tier four. Let's just say let's just keep going on all the tears Between thirty four and forty five. Who do you think's the next three without stopping on your next here. I want you to take a dog. Kevin kisner you've got to putt it around here. Kisner puts it well and and obviously like everyone else loves it. He's played here like sixty times Kisner and your forty here jason day. I can't believe is available. Still this is like when you drafting your fantasy draft. Someone still there gays in the fifties a major champion way too good to be ranked pace and still get them and then again. No one's going to have my main man landho- it's mandalorian landau griffin. That's my guy. He competed well at the peach again. I'm just. I'm trying to get you because if we're doing like drafts and everyone's going to have some version of the same thing but if you if you have mazzi yarmulke crack kisner atlanta you'll be standing by yourself and it might be worthless like by thursday night at my absolutely worthless but that's who i scribbled down that so i scribbled down richard landau cow aristion griffin go watch. Espn plus in booker day. Man how is life in dc. I know you wanted to move there to be closer to family scott and it was remarkable. Espn said go it when we built you beautiful set and your show is just as great as ever. How's that working for you. Thank you welcome. It's it's good. It's you as having kids and and dealing with moving and trying to get them adjusted in the world of that were in and sings aren't as easy to meet people it's i it's it's challenging more so than i thought it might be but i'm home on close to the family. Mom you know is able to come by anytime she wants. Which you know is is what it's about and We're in the same studio. Is tony and mike dunn. Pti for years and We're ted koppel used to host nightline. Don't carry that. I thought i mean they should not let me walk in the same place that that man worked. And and so. It's all surreal Driving down familiar streets in dc. And and that's where i am. It's it's it's all hard to fathom. But i'm just grateful you know i'm grateful we get to do what we do and in grateful to be able to be home to do it and then you got the i don't want to say the other tongue vilo but The second one crushing amata right now. Scott that's got to be He let me look. I mean i. They were twenty point dogs to minnesota really beat him. They were twenty some point dogs penn. They beat them. I mean i don't think that maryland's beating ohio state But nevertheless it's a couple of wins for to his brother who's pretty good sales tapping last year. Scott just happy look. Any music is played right. Now i'm celebrating. And i'm hoping the nfl can hang on here. I keep trudging along. Because they've done a great a job as they can try and handle well scott. I know again that you've been working like crazy. I appreciate you just popping on the phone and enjoy augusta. Enjoy that enjoy going on your family and Let's let's chat around the holidays. I'd love if you don't mind. I look forward to that be well. I hope this list isn't totally useless. But i i actually put thought into it even though it might appear i did know. Trust me when it's the first we're thrilled that we've been here six years and now that we've got a new home in peacock. I think it's the first time we've ever heard the name landau griffin let alone streamed it I'm okay so trashy history when you hear. Join the pool if you want. It's no no no no no no no no. He's not going to do something like that. This manza this man this man. He doesn't wanna take a bad beat in this one either. Okay so true. Hey look at michael's reference to side so good work. Hey baby worldwide. Take care of yourself scott. Enjoy the week. Enjoy it brother you well. You got family reginald seeming. That's one of my favorites on lonzo griffin. I've never heard of that guy to be honest. But i will be adding it. Entry landau griffin. Oh my goodness gracious from mount shasta california. Wow just where. He's thirty two years old. Which means when i was doing the sports casts and mount shasta and redding california which is right there right south of beautiful mount shasta. I might have been doing. So that's like thousand ninety. Four he was born in he was a six year old watching. Watch me do. The sports was young. Landau was out there. Watching me do Do sports guests that count towards the is and bump they'll see clearly i mean there you go griffin and the barranca man. Well rich you can get up at five. Oh six local time. I really that when he's teeing five or six pacific he's playing with. Vj singh and tyler. Duncan wow i'll text you guys from mount shasta california. It's a beautiful part of this country. The north state of california. All right. i'm all in atlanta. Let's go into no idea that i was talking to land. Does a six seven eight year old kid. Oh my god. Linda if he was watching a local sports guests. Eight six thousand eight. Turn it on channel. Seven are in redding california. Was that guy was we need a reunion or ask landau calorie and griffin. And since you brought up landau cower. See and i just wanted to point out that he's sitting right here. Billy dee williams one of the coolest of all time Eight four four zero four rich number. Dial david cross will join us. Chris brockman is news update. That's our rolling the rest of this edition of the rich eisen show. We've got a great celebrity true or false for david cross when he joins us coming up support for this. Podcast comes from pluto. Tv ready to get away from it. All free yourself with pluto tv stream hundreds of channels and thousands of movies and shows all for free. yeah free no contracts. No subscriptions no fees imagine twenty four seven channels of narcos. Csi star trek subscriber and everything else from hit movies to binge worthy tv shows. The latest news live sports comedy. More what are you waiting for. Download the free pluto tv app for android or iphone start watching now pluto. Tv drop in watch free back here on our friends at p. concrete chat with scott van pelt right there you guys trying to get them to give you fear when he doesn't every year about a guy in the thirty you youtube he's writing down. What is i already have one. I might do a second. One though is scott l. Oh that was smooth. Oh i'll give you that much. That was. I'm just wondering if we split up the world. Golf ranking ten by ten by ten by ten and figure that out strong with that. What's wrong with taking a look at which guys in which tier of the world golf rankings. As the best chance to win win this it's better way than just saying. Hey who outside of the top ten. Maybe i should just go ten by ten and take those picks and go to chris brockman link the second groups always the hardest. Well done well done rich. Thanks chris i appreciate thing. Isn't that second group. You have tiger patrick reed. There's all good guys who've won bright. Yeah it's tough back here on the rich eisen show with our radio audience. Now we're one big happy streaming slash radio family Here on nbc sports on peacock right here also on sirius. Xm channel to eleven and the rich eisen show Radio network highlighted by the mighty. Ten ninety right here in southern california. I am a big fan of this man's work I don't know if he's ever been on this show before in our six years Loved him In mister show at davis way back in the day that was before arrested development and also in goliath where he played a far different character than the one he did a other shows that included. Also the ben stiller show and his new movie the dark divide available now on vod digital and blu ray and dvd platforms were ever. You can get that the highly talented david cross back. You're on the rich eisen over here. The richest how are you david. I'm good and You know it's interesting as you. Were doing that intro right before you were saying. I don't know if he's been on the show. I was actually sitting there thinking. Have i been on the show before. I don't think so. They usually do. Have a a good recollection of that sort of thing. But i've wanted you on for quite some time because everything that i just read i. You are hilarious man And you are excellent at what you do. So i'm glad that you're you are most welcome. you're from atlanta. Is that where you're from originally. Yeah you okay so is that is that the part of the country that you associate yourself with or or what i mean. Did you spend much time there when you were in atlanta Well i i'm all my family. Almost my family still down there So on there quite a bit. But now that i have a a daughter were down there i mean you know outside of covert stuff for about four or five times a year much saw reason why ask just basically also do. Do you have any sports teams from there. David did you grow up. And he atlantis sports fan in any way shape unfortunately yes Yeah I was i they was. I am a brave stand Went to tons of braves games because they when they thought it was very cheap. I remember there was a You know one of those quarter car. Wash chains called national pride car washing. They would have coupons that would allow you to get to into the game for like a couple of bucks so my friends and i would go to those games would cost much and then also be atlanta flames sucked for a long time as well and So we get into those games fairly cheaply and and then Unfortunately a falcons fan too. So while i was at the world series win that game. I have been a lot of race games over the years. But i was actually at the you know the last game and the old stadium fulton county stadium. The old fulton county stadium back in the day. So if i had a guest then Was like dale murphy. Your guy growing up is that is. That was i loved. I loved bill murphy. But i was also a red sox. Fan i just. I really liked the red sox and then i moved to boston from atlanta and you know went to tons of games at fenway which is just a completely different and better experience And i was a big dwight evans. Fan but you know i i was. Yeah def definitely dale murphy was was my guy but all you know. A lot of those Those earlier teams. That have named characters have done movies and tv shows and they usually have some ol- braves characters in there. I to i did. Movie called hits. And i two cops were Lemke and the cops got those sprinkled throughout my work over the gate. I mean did you ever hear from sid bream and say what gives i mean. Did you ever i remember. I remember exactly where i was when the when the slide happened. I was at a bar in new york city. And and i yeah i just remember the hanging onto the watching the game in a in a bar and and banging my foot pretty bad on the stool a little. You know the rail of the stool So it was like jumping up and down and Got caught and they're like. Yeah well i also remember one of the biggest moments i guess in atlanta flames. History was when jim craig. If i'm not mistaken after winning the gold medal. He went between the pilot. the atlanta flames. I haven't heard that yeah and it was a big. It was about as big of promotional push remember. Coca cola was behind their local and that was a big deal and then i think they were gone within two years. I wanna say They moved to calgary this with any with with a year or two years of his signing. Remember but i did catch a Slapshot that went up and hit the Because we used to buy tickets there was nobody there so you buy tickets. Just move down and the the third row behind the goal and And there was Eric vale remember it was air. Vail hit the slapshot. It went off the glass and just went spinning And i just instinctively you know just jumped up and put my hand up and it hurt like a month. I don't know swear. A family show a mother. Mother friendly a mother. Mother hurt like a motherfucker back Like you know. And i was probably like. I don't know what that have been like. Twelve for something like that. Thirteen and Yeah just damage. My we'll hand. It was pretty cool. David cross here on the rich eisen. Show let's Before we get into a i i go down memory lane a little bit with With with some of my celebrity guests and ask them in celebrity. True or false stuff that i've seen in articles quotes if they're true or not before we get to that. Let's talk about the dark. Divide you play The doctor robert pile In this film which is a real guy. Walked me through this and why you did this and how you got involved in this this this fair sir. What do you got for me So it's a it's a true true story. It's a really takes a bunch of his books. But it's A guy who kind of mild mannered Lepidopterists kind of bookish chronic. I very introverted Who through the x. Extenuating circumstances involving his deceased wife ends up going on this journey through The dark divide. Which is the nickname of the gipper. Gifford pinchot national forest on the pacific northwest. It's like the largest uncharted. Wild did a land in the lower. Forty eight states left hand. is back in nineteen ninety five and he's just in way over his head he doesn't know what he's doing he's Very naive about what he's about to undertake and you know it's one of those kinda stories and movies where you know he goes and he starts his journey he starts one way through all the this arduous journey he goes on you know near death experiences and all kinds of things have happened in the people. You need needs Ends up a completely different person at the end you know. And he went in there thinking he was going to be gone for a little under a month and he was lost all track of time and he was actually almost six weeks in there and and just it was And i rarely get offered that kind of opportunity and I really liked the story. And i like the i like the idea of being in my underwear a lot. You know on screen and And you're welcome to walk for that And and so and then once i've met with the writer and director to Which is the same person. Tom putting a wrote and directed at when i messed with him. Because if you can do something because it was very low budget really brutal tough. I mean we shot in a lot of the real locations and you know. There's no electricity. there's no you can't there's no Roads at a certain point. You just part to drive as far as you can. Then you get out and walk all this gear with a skeleton crew and do you know the interior of these crazy woods and You know there's no internet no electric no cell phone service. Nothing like that and you know it was really difficult. Shoot so i wanna make sure i you know jibe with him and i did and then it was like yeah. Let's do it and And it's again a available now on vod digital and blu-ray slash dvd platforms plus. Let's be honest. Odin kirk cab all the serious roles where the he's going through great physical harm and actually doing this right. You gotta you gotta stay. Keep up with him right now. You know exactly. We're we're we're we're doing. I'm racing up the charts. Yes you are going to catching butterflies so in the dark divide. It's a it's a great movie. everyone should go. Check it out. If you don't mind endeavouring a celebrity. True or false here and the rich eisen show greatly appreciated. David cross. Okay would you. Here we go. We even have a drop fort go forward. Please boy very good. It's very dramatic setting up a celebrity true or false with david crossing and these are items that we have captured from articles that have been written about you or are on the internet. You got to tell us if it's true or false first item of guessing or am i know you're confirming your confirming saying this is true or false okay. This is not you're confirming a according to one article you have quote no qualms whatsoever unquote about taking your clothes off for any reason. Is that true or false. David cross truly Everything should be good but it. It really depends on how much i've been drinking. Okay so it really depends on the actual alcohol intake but professionally. This is something that you're you're open to is what you're saying. Oh yeah. I mean mister show. There's you know if we got rid of that video digital scramblers thing. I'm sure to be seeing it quite nihilo lot of from the two of you back in the day. That was so much fun. That was ever something that you did that. On mr show with bob and david that you were told you could not do and that had to be hit on the cutting floor literally one literally and four years is one thing and that and h. There's a remember the thing but it's like a flashback. It's in the opening. There's a flashback. Where i'm playing my dad or and in maryland. Rice cub is the mom. And there's a baby which is supposed to be. Which is a plastic dog clearly. Plastic goal and i say something about the baby and the mom very win through slams the baby down the grand goes f f this baby and that was the one thing that yeah. We really don't want you do that for like okay okay. Isn't that other than that. It was all all good ready to go on mr show. Yeah okay very good next one for you. You're originally approach to play buster booth interested development. But you chose tobias instead. Is that true Yeah that was. They had sent me actually wanted me to look at job and buster in joe biden. No reading on at all. I didn't understand it and seem really fun but to bias was in there and i just immediately gravitated to that character and i also knew immediately how i want plan So i i love for that. And they was like fine is based on anybody that you have met before. Who's tobias where you know. He's he's he. The way i pitched was Like a half a mashup. Malformation of a like east coast. Dick van What's the guy's name decapitate. East coast turtleneck wearing cabinet Intellectual or pseudo intellectual in his case Me a kind of marin county touchy feely cable sweater Kind of like you know A therapist who makes up a his own brand of therapy and just call himself up there. You know like a mix of those two types of people. What's your favorite scene from arrested development. David cross. which is your favorite. Oh come on. Come on how to do it. Richard richard david come on. I don't i don't i don't i mean you know i could say something now. It'll change ten minutes. If i remember another one but i remember having a member rarely laughing as hard as i ever have. There's a thing with a. It's like a flashback to a party or something and bus Buster tony hills playing the piano. Were in the run. The the Lucille's living room depend house. And then i think job is on laying on the table dining room table. And i can't remember what michael's doing and i'm dancing in my. I'm laughing thinking about it now. In my you know Never knew shorts and that was the end of a long day was like our thirteen. We were all loopy and just doing that and And i know for a fact that when you see well or net laughing when jason laughing in the background that's them laughing for real stop black to say who's the one that was the easiest to break up on the set like would just crack. That's a good question Wow maybe maybe me. I don't know jason's appro. I mean he's he's pretty great be i'd say will or me. You know one of the two of us so it's funny. You said they really were all solid. He's staying that way because it's funny so we'll better read of the job character than you did. And so everyone wound up in the right spots and that. Oh yeah. I mean what. I what i saw willing it. I i was like. Of course i'd never occurred to me. And i just can't imagine It's one of those rare cats. We're just can't imagine anybody else playing those roles you know right like i and Yeah once it. Because i'd never met will before Or or even knew of them. But when i was watching it all happen when we were the pilot i was like oh god of course great. Perfect it's certainly. Is david cross the dark. Divide where you can check it out on vod digital and blu ray slash dvd platforms right. Now thanks for the call. David appreciate. I meant what i said. I'm a big fan and i hope We get to chat a little bit more. Go down more your atlanta sports memory lane next time to thank you. Well thank them. And i wanna thank you for all your helping me with all my fantasy baseball Decisions over the last decades. I had no idea the pressure was on so yeah. Have you wanna championship on my on my knowledge okay. Yeah they have fantastic I didn't see my playoff share. David i didn't get that but i'll just no. It should be check your check your pay pal. Good thing i will do that in the commercial break. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. You take care all right absolutely. Thank you david. Cross at david cross on twitter at david cross official on instagram. Have the heart to ask him one extra thing that apparently alvin and the chipmunks shipwrecked which he was in was one of the worst experiences ever had a job and my kids love of shipwreck there. As a matter of fact they'll be dead points. Guess who i spoke to today from shipwrecked chipmunks growing. Oh my gosh. All right Your news update will take all the way to brother from another. Let's come back there. Some big news out of college football that We will hit on. I do not know what it is. I am keenly interested in it and will stay off of my social media feed. Thank you for the next two minutes to give you my first blush reaction coming up. Do you own a wrench. 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Years of weird dumb bits has gotten you that share in me this one. He's gonna say point. I remember your next to a bowl leather jacket. Once i did i cover to rodeo covered a rodeo There was a rodeo in redding california. back in the day and i'm back here on the rich eisen show. Radio network was red bluff california. We're back here on the rich eisen show. Did you ever have signed down that an no and so it was like i had to cover the rodeo at a preview. The rodeo in town and i i i spoke to. The guy was training the bowl. I said if you stand right next to the camera. And i stand to the bull. Will you be able to keep the ball in place. He said yes so. I interviewed the bull to preview the The rodeo is good bit. It's a bit got me a job on sportscenter all mad as part of my resume. Absolutely that some of my best material and i remember i. I then covered the rodeo. And i was supposed to interview Time murray who is as big a rodeo stars there was at the time. I didn't know what he looked like and i walked up to whoever was running the rodeo and reading and i said can you tell me where time arias and i gotta look from this person similar to the look you would have gotten from whoever was at at the time united center. And you said where's can you point out michael jordan. So then you know. That's my rodeo career. Do you remember what was the order of the year segments on your resume. Real always finish. I also probably i also Went up to Lake shasta home nearby of the great lantos griffin who are choosing bangka. Are ralph barranca That i once we got a call once saying that. Tonya harding was on a houseboat and lake. Shasta got a call. We got that tip desert and the news director at the time who i think enjoyed tormenting me in a little bit of a way. He says you're you're you're you're sports guy you go check it out and i'm like what am i checking out tonya. Harding's up there go interviewer. And i'm like okay. I hopped in the car. And i got up there and it's a huge ask slake monster lake like. You couldn't find anybody on that. We could take hours to find anybody and like what am i supposed to do. Drive up next the houseboat and board it with my camera like you know like mounts mount some sort of you know journalistic assault on on on the the house are supposed to do on the cactus. I showed up in the guys working at the front desk. I mean literally was like an episode of shit's creek. And i walked up to the person who is running a desk and mike is. Tonya harding here will. I can't confirm that you know we have to. We have privacy laws. And i'm like well what she here like you know. Just just tell me if she here. I can't tell you blink twice. So i decided i can't go back empty-handed i said. Would you mind if i just used one of the houseboats. That's not out on the lake to shoot a piece about her. Maybe being or go be my so. I shot a a piece that we heard that tonya harding was on a houseboat here. We can't confirm it but if we did it would be something similar to this. And like i would go on the tour and open up the drawers in the houseboat and find like a big huge stick in there and again. That dumb bit helped me sit in this chair. A rich is just a century later and landau griffin at age seven with sitting at home laughing enjoying my sportscaster comic stylings mixed with sports and information and now look where he is. Hey playing with. Vj singing masters rich the bulls name was. Sammy just confirmed now. My god is that really his. That's is that he's been he's been trying to get in for the last minute. A couple of minutes but cultivating that. The lasagna highs. The last minute towards your microphone on my token ring bowl. I got here all week. Try their bill. Got sorry favorite. Let me do the jokes. I'm flying react all right. A bad joke is terrible. I talked to the point where i got to get your news. I just can't let that be the button for the segment. I just can't let that be the sorry rich. I understand that. I can't let it be the button but i'm so we are technically taking landau griffin under our wing. I think i think he's responsibility. He's now the official golfer of the rich eisen show for the master hugo. Look at him. Okay that's the button. Hit the drop. Please let's get to the news with a report of the day's news from the world of sports entertainment. Someone who is not a journalist or newsman. By any definition of the word whatsoever which chris brockman. What do you have over there. Chris so this is just breaking scott. Last segment talked about segments ago. Talked about excited to watch his maryland. Turps against ohio state this weekend. That's canceled bruce. Feldman said Game maryland ohio state is getting cancelled it because of covid reasons we know which program has been Not yet it. Not not that. I believe this is just breaking in the last couple of minutes. The sec already has four games postponed this weekend. Lsu alabama texas tennessee georgia missouri and auburn. Mississippi state are all postponed for covid reasons. Commissioner greg sankey spoke today was asked about his level of confidence and completing the sec. Regular season says he's troubled by what's happened but he's shaken not deterred push forward. Okay that's what he said. Shaken not deterred shakin which is a sounds like the way that adds the search shaking like martinez. I you know. i don't know. I don't know what else to say. Other than the fact that just scary and frightening. And i hope everyone's okay here we go. I just updated from bruce. The maryland has eight players tested positive. This week okay. Okay some nfl stuff We mentioned christian. Mccaffrey receiving a second opinion on his right shoulder. Injury is not expected to play this week. I also just received matt from the la nfl media group news desk some Some quotes of from matt rule. Okay where he says. It looks like christian. Probably won't play. I wouldn't say that it's one hundred percent but it looks like he'll be out next week and we'll see for next week and it's being called an ac joint issue in his shoulder. Those are very pain. five had them there. I've had one. That's what i suffered at the pro bowl back in two thousand five as Go to my off. Mike hand for the rest of the week and we did have carolina's panthers trainer actually look at my shoulder. I'm making it about myself. Yes it's week-to-week you got. Mike davis well. I picked him back up. It's the it's a festivus miracle. After hannukah came to an end with all of his six weeks of fantasy value burning bright. He was the shama the running backs. Look it up. What else she got kenyan. Drake back at practice for the cardinals and that's good news. Okay Joe mixing got in a limited session today for cincinnati. John brown not at practice today for buffalo. The browns active baker mayfield from the covid nineteen was. He was never positive but he was a high risk contact. Glad that you never had it back normal week. Also nick chubb progressing expects to know more on his status. Friday said kevin stefanski anthony. Anthony winstead said. He's leaning toward resting justin jackson. So that you know modeled charger backfield now. Kellen balaj getting. I'm not sure what happened to justin jackson again. He there's conflicting reports that he aggravated his knee and warm ups. And then on the first play of the game flared up and they didn't play again but So he's got an issue. Okay taken on and miami man here. We go to versus herbert got anything else. Yeah the dodgers and major league. Baseball announced that vince gully is going to be the narrator for the dodgers world series dvd. That's coming out okay. So that's pretty awesome. Two disc blu ray coming out in december Oklahoma city announced mark. Diagnose it's going to be their head coach and some baseball news t. tj mark. Stroman accepted the mets one year. Eighteen point nine million-dollar qualifying offer. Some other players have until five pm today to accept but they're not expected to including jay lawmaker. Bauer George springer dj who red sox and jt real. Oh that's definitely met. you may here to. The socks is a real thing being rumored he would great in boston. Would love that guy. Yes he would. You'd look great anywhere. He would george springer two is getting a lot of that by the way you say eighteen point. Nine million dollar offer for the new york yankees. You know that's a little too low. There's been maybe in. The last two seasons has been amazing. I'm just and he was. He was kind of like a prior to the twenty nineteen season like a like an old by the way with yankees picked up after winning a batting title. I think in twenty eight on real man. He's been he's been terrific baseball player. He's very good. You're already putting him. In in the red sox and george springer get everybody got money to spend right. Wait a minute. you can't get everybody if we're getting everybody. Well that's a good point. You're going to get everybody every somebody i know. We touched upon it yesterday. But just it's a total wild card who this guy is and how. He's going to run his business. He says he's going to back off. You know also said he was going to back off george steinbrenner when he first took the reins the yankees back in the early seventies. He's like. I'm just a shipbuilder you know. I'm just the shipbuilder. I'm is that where his money came from. Yes okay and i just don't i i. I would love for him to just put his hands all over that organization. You would be money money. The money spigot is opening up for the new york mets. The mets greet the mets. Come on that's right there. You go as long as they keep. The shaped head of mister met always keep him going human baseball hat. Mrs aren't going anywhere. He has four fingers suspended for just hold a couple of plus noah syndergaard and mister met. They have a little volatile relationship. So i'm hoping that i think it's just in time for you guys to make sure syndergaard doesn't wind up and pinstripes never going to happen. Wow that's a true. The mets have pinstripe uniforms. So yeah we do have pinstripe. Your yes sort of the rockies into what you say. I'm saying there's only one organization in baseball that refers to themselves as the pinstripes. And we know we're talking about this is gonna be great. This is gonna be great one of my teams eventually is going to be good and then you have enough of them so by the nation giving if you've got the sports board baseball team one more team than most people have just one extra team one extra basketball every sport. That's my favorite sports. What you have you got yourself. Lanta griffin anto intel intel place. It's not cowardice in atlanta calgary. All the mandalorian right. Let's go hand. Sorry when i wake up tomorrow. First thing i do is check. See how lantos doing only five. Oh six pacific context next time. We're on the air. The masters those ball in the air in august the opening guys are teed off will be done around by the time we come on the air. How exciting can't play their music. Our final poll results over there and it wouldn't even really check on a pole much. It was it was fantasy related. Who's the big fantasy surprise. It's year james. Robinson and justin herbert tied. Thirty two justin. Herbert brother vulgar twenty. One percents ogm more fantasy yards than any receiver since week three. He's been amaze. Oh for our radio audience. I want to thank lamar jackson. Kyle brandt nate boyer. Scott van pelt and david cross when we come back. We'll take you to brother from another on picot. Don't go anywhere back with more pneumonia. 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The Mystery of ESPN's Missing Tapes

ESPN Daily

18:33 min | 1 year ago

The Mystery of ESPN's Missing Tapes

"The ESPN videotape library. It's in this warehouse and it's a couple of miles from the main ESPN campus. It's so vast. There's no room for it on the main campus anymore. It is the largest sports tepe library repository reliquary anywhere in the world. Jeremy Shop is an ESPN reporter and the host of e sixty if you remember the scene scene at the end of readers lost Ark. It's supposed to be like the National Archives. It just keeps moving out in showing you the fastness of the warehouse. It's like that except for sports games. Everything is in there just about everything you could possibly imagine that. It's taking place in sports in the last. I four years but we really wanted which holds his very special place in the history of the network wasn't there. ESPN broadcasts first game. Forty years ago. It was a key moment in the history of sports but when our Jeremy SCHAAP set out to find the tape it was missing today a mystery that went unsolved for decades times. It's Tuesday December. Thirty first this is. ESPN daily presented by Dell Small Business. You're a small business owner and there's nothing small about what you do. That's why Dell small business technology advisers give you trusted advice. One partnership in tailored tech solutions like computers with Intel core processors servers servers storage networking plus thousands of top brand electronics accessories and software. No matter your technology needs Dell is here to help your small business do big big things call eight seven seven buy Dell to speak with an advisor today. That's eight seven seven by Dell Jeremy. You've worked this company for quite some time now. Did you always know what the first game was that was ever broadcast by ESPN. I think it would be dishonest to say that back in nineteen ninety-three when I was a mere child and I was hired that I knew back then but I think over the years. It's one of those things that you acquire in terms of your knowledge of the company the history of the company at some point what I learned it was a professional softball game but I don't remember precisely win and I didn't know the details of the game but yeah a softball game. Of course I what else would you start with September seventeenth nineteen seventy nine the day that ESPN went live. What was the network like back then although I have been around for a while me? I haven't been around quite that long but this is secondhand I've learned. ESPN on its first. Day was a bunch of production trucks in a parking lot. Essentially that had not been paved in Bristol Connecticut it was truly in its infancy. The concept was only about a year old and in a short amount of time they had gone from concept to funding to a network going on the air that would be seen across the country. Hi I'm Lee Leonard Welcoming you to Bristol. Connecticut one hundred ten miles from New York City. Why Bristol because here in Bristol is where all the sports action is is as of right now and we're just minutes away they didn't have NFL rights and they didn't have major league? Baseball rights did have rights grand slams it have rights to anything that boosts people would wanNA actually watch so they had to improvise. Is that how we ended up with softball on the first day. That's how we ended up with softball is the very first live event on ESPN. I think it was an hour after going on the air period with the very first version in addition sportscenter softball. All is one of those rare sports that everybody knows something about why we all play on Sunday when we drink a little beer the guy who runs pr for this professional softball league in the Midwest West he reads about the launch of this new network and the brother of one of ESPN's original anchors. The brother of George Grand. He's one of the team owners of the team in new who even which is only like thirty miles from Bristol Connecticut. So it's kind of a natural fit. It's almost fate destiny that this softball league would be featured as the first event ever on. ESPN they came up with an agreement that they would broadcast not just this game the entirety of the world series that year. Not The baseball world series. which would be versus the pirates but the softball world series? so you decide to do a piece on this very first I game game. One of the nineteen seventy nine world series the professional American slow pitch softball naturally. What happens when you go to our archives and you ask for it if you were to go to this vast reliquary repository in you asked for the first event that ever took place on? Espn you you would be met with disappointment because it was simply not in the library the SPN ESPN would save everything now. Now literally anything that's taking place on. TV anywhere in the world in sports they roll on and they save in this library. But if you wanted to find that game the game that started it all all. They didn't have it. It had been lost to the ages through the sands of time and it was particularly a disappointment and a source comparison for the man who's run the library for decades. Who is that can boudreau? I'm Ken Boudreau. I'm one of eight employees. That are left here that started in nineteen seventy nine. Currently I am senior. Director and production operations can do drove the emperor. The Grand Poobah Bob of the video tape library man who knows where all the tapes are buried where every show is archived. Probably the only person in the world who can and find almost instantaneously. Whatever you need in that library? Ken Hated to admit because he considered almost a personal personal failing that the tape wasn't in library and we had no record of. We have no idea where they are. I don't know I was not working at tape. Library technician running master control. Well that's convenient so you go to the library can grow tells you you. We don't have it. What are you guys do next? It's kind of a two pronged process because we want to tell the story of the game itself what it was who was playing in it what the stakes were and at the same time. The story of its place in history at ESPN and it's absence from the library. Obrero so we go in pursuit of this very important inconsequential story and that means pursuing suing all leads even if they seem that they might lead nowhere following the money. The really wasn't any money. But you know what I mean and going to Milwaukee Walkie which is where this game took place in which was the home of one of the two teams playing this game. The Milwaukee Schlitz obviously who were playing Kentucky Bourbons who were from Louisville. So we went to Milwaukee. We found his many players as we could manager of the team. And the owner of the team. Perhaps most crucially. So you tracked down the owner of the Milwaukee Schlitz softball team. A man named John Cornick. What clues did he have about the missing tapes shapes Simon Baumgart our producer? He calls John Cornick to set up an interview with him. He still living in Milwaukee. He's no longer longer in the softball team ownership business. But he's still out there and he has a lot of memorabilia. We want to interview him. In almost as an aside Solomon mentions. We don't have these tapes and Cornick says lie got him. And it's it's one of those Eureka moments mints. I mean it's not like finding an original copy of the declaration of independence or something like that but for our purposes and at that time it felt like we had struck video gold. And why did he have them in the first place cornick had these tapes because in nineteen seventy nine is. The holiday season rolled around round. He wanted to give his players a keepsake from this world series. I called up. ESPN and I told him that I wanted the ESPN tapes. Tapes one is this. This was probably a month after the after the world series. They did send I made tapes but they charged me seven hundred fifty dollars he calls ESPN. He says I'm the owner of the Milwaukee Schlitz I one copies of all the games the world series and whoever's in the video tape library said okay we'll dubbed these off for you And it's seven hundred and fifty bucks. I've we've had a special safes on the base where keep him locked up. I don't want anybody touch it. No no they're in a closet. Forty thirty years forty years. These tapes have been sitting and John cornyn basements unwashed unloved on archived this this precious gem that had been ignored a coming up for the first time in forty years. ESPN gets a look at the broadcast. Cast that started it all the ESPN daily covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits roots. That will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business. Indeed we'll help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests. That help candidates ended show. They're the perfect tire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions and exclusions apply going to head down to the archives. John that's it. Keep them stored right in here. I take a moment out of respect. These are the tapes are the tapes. This is the whole series. Yeah Wow game on number number one. This is where it all started where it started the first event ever on. ESPN the first tape from the first event slick like new. This is history. They just hand them over. It was more complicated process. Ultimately it was resolved to everyone's everyone's satisfaction and to the benefit of John's bank account to Jeremy. You get the tapes mission. Accomplished you bring them back to Bristol. No one has seen the footage for forty years. What does it show well? This was not a highly sophisticated operation. Good evening to you. Everyone from from Jake's field in Lannon Wisconsin. I'm Joe Boyle along with former New York Yankee Star. John Blanchard set to bring you all of the action of tonight's American Slow Pitch Professional Softball League League world series. This was not a place where they should have been showing a nighttime softball game. I mean they brought in lights at the last minute. They barely did the job. It's basically basically a municipal park softball field in the Milwaukee suburbs with no real stands. No real lights. There's nothing professional shnell looking about it except the players who were awesome softball players but it looks like what you might expect on the first night in the first hour of the history of startup. TV network the game itself a clash of the titans. The Milwaukee Schlitz. Yes the Kentucky bourbons. Were these two teams big rivals. These teams hated each other. That's completely genuine talking to these guys even forty years later it. It was clear that they really did not like each other at all on a personal level. It wasn't just friendly rivalry. They resented each other. My a sense was I'm a Schlitz Guy. I was always Schlitz Fan. In this rivalry. The schlitz were the working class. Milwaukee I mean what softball supposed to be about right. It's guys who did this. Because of their love of the sport because represented an opportunity to go have some beers with their buddies and it was about beer a a softball demeaned. Frankly I know the guys who doesn't mix the same weights just something else. These guys kind of fashion themselves as kind of blue grass bourbon royalty like they were the real kings of softball and the Schlitz guys were some kind of pretenders. This was the slow pitch softball world series. How seriously the big ticket? Oh these guys. This is deadly serious. So The star of the Kentucky Bourbons kind of their Babe Ruth. They're they're big personality. Was this Guy Bill Guy and he was one of the big studs in the sport at the time on a national level and this sport meant so much to him. This rivalry meant so much to this championship meant so much. He approached this with true seriousness and commitment to extent that surprised us. I took the game seriously. I prepared myself. I get the right kind of sleep. My wife she'd be beating my chest. One WanNa have sex and I've got to play ball. I gotta play ball later today. That's how intense I was. This was professional right. It's in the title of the series. This was professional. These guys were getting paid big money for the time they took. I wouldn't say inordinate I would say an ordinate amount of pride in this these guys their lives revolved revolved around softball. And this rivalry and the fact. That was a national television albeit available in about twenty thousand homes or thirty thousand homes that first tonight I think raised the stakes for everyone involved. Milwaukee is about to take the field rick reader men who was to the Schlitz what Bill Godley was to the Bourbon. He was one of their best hitters. He was their star Star. Pitcher in Rick Witter goes down in history. I mean maybe maybe this is in quite the equivalent of Roger Bannister. Something like that run in the first four minute mile but he does go down in history. Rick Liederman Rick you personally occupy a very special place in television history for underway with the first pitch to the game. It's a called strike your first pitch in game. One is the first athletic thing anyone ever did on on. ESPN that way I go. Wow look what I started i. Athletics thing is a AH excellent qualifier. I'll put that on a plaque. So what happened in the Game Kentucky. Bourbons won the first game ever on. ESPN this first. Event the Milwaukee Schlitz lost but the bourbons go down in history. GotTa give them credit. They won the first event in the history of Espn always have that but then went on to lose the rest of the series tries to go up the middle white. Herman cut set off throws to first for the out. Lock throw to third day would like not out of their brittle diabetic right now. Very happy thought ball players they had won the world champion of the American Professional Slow Pitch Softball League as a guy. I'm sure you're thrilled as Schlitz guy. I take inordinate pride so ultimately intimately whatever happened to the tape they get it back in the library. The tapes were restored to their rightful place in the veto videotape library. North Campus Bristol Connecticut. And for me I frankly it was an emotional moment but it was really. I think Ken Boudreau. Oh our library for him. It was the culmination the crowning achievement of his career really. I know I'm being a little facetious here at over the top but I think genuinely admits up to the network to get him back because we do care about our history and we celebrate our history at ESPN. This is a are kind of declaration of independence are Magna Carta. What what else? What else can I throw out there? it's big Thanks Jeremy I'll see you in the reliquary. Thank you mean. That's the only story story I want you to know today but we do have a postscript. Ken Boudreau the so called Emperor. The library retired in December after forty years in charge of ESPN's ends Videotape Archive. I mean it comes this has espn daily and that's it for twenty nineteen. I'll talk to you next year Ah.

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Follow Charley Steiner to Freedom!

Giants Splash

22:07 min | 2 years ago

Follow Charley Steiner to Freedom!

"The along. And welcome to another episode of the giants splash on Henry showman. The giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and today, I talked to Charlie Steiner, the radio voice of the dodgers. And one of the original anchors of ESPN. Sportscenter Charlie talks about his early days ESPN, his famous follow me to freed an ad how we almost became a giants broadcaster and much much more. We'll get to it. Right. After this. Hi, I'm Susan lesser Oakland A's beat writer for the chronicle. And I'd love it. If you've listened to my podcast as plus attack. The players coaches executives and others around the team every week. You'll get on field analysis and off the field insight. Do you know, which as player lost twenty pounds on a diet of donuts? You would if you've been listening to as plus join me every week wherever you get your podcasts as plus. Henry show and back here at oracle park. And I'm talking to Charlie Steiner who I've known for a long time. And I I did some research with some of my secret, you know, I have some secret sources, and I found out through that secret source called Wikipedia, Charley Steiner, you're turning seventy years old this year. I can't believe that. Sadly, I can it's weird. I don't feel it. It just looks really crappy print outside of that. It's fine. I keep being reminded that. Been around for a long time now, but I've been really fortunate to have lived when I've lived and essentially how I've lived. So I got no kicks. Well, when you think back to how long ago, it was that you started. It's sportscenter started doing sportscenter and you really start doing the math. It was a long time ago. Wasn't it? I got to ESPN and Eighty-eight it had not really taken off as yet. It was the sports station on cable it went on the air and seventy nine. So now that's going on forty years. They're having a big celebration in September. And at that point sportscenter happened to be the news show on the sports station on cable in a little town of Bristol, Connecticut, and I was offered a job to go up there. And that was a weird story getting there in and of itself. Now, I'd never done television before and. I was one of about a half a dozen people. They brought in very quickly and then within about a year year and a half. That's when the talent surge really took off. They brought in Keith. And Dan and Robin. They were so big and so good, no last names required. Gary Miller came in to Rico came in. So within the space of about eighteen months. The sportscenter thing was kind of teetering and then then all of us kind of showed up and then took off, and we were the last ones to realize it was becoming a big deal. I mean, which I mean it got to the point where you had to watch sports center. I mean, I was on the road. And I I wanted to hotels sometimes where they didn't quite have ESPN yet. And I would check out to go to a hotel. I mean, you you really became a Charley Steiner became a household name. Which is. Yeah. And not necessarily in the Steiner house. But that was okay to get when I started at ESPN and beyond the road, and you drive into these college towns or wherever it was and they had the motels and they had the billboard out front. We have HBO, and we have ESPN, and I'm thinking, maybe this is going to be a big deal. They can't we had we had no idea, and I never done television before. And so they just kind of thrust man front of a camera and said it was like in the deep end of the pool now swim kid, and so I had to learn how to do TV really on the fly. But again part of the thing again with the first question now, I'm pushing seventy I was almost forty when when I got to SPN, and I was I was the new kid, and I was all the oldest guy at the same time. But you know, it certainly worked out far better than expected when when they came to me. My agent. So you really sure you wanna go to Bristol, Connecticut work on a cable station again at that point. I'm pushing forty at done very well in radio. I said, well, why not if it doesn't work out? I'll go back to radio. And I remember that when I remember when Olbermann started the first night on ESPN two when the deuce came out. I remember his opening line was welcome to the end of my career. I mean, did you did you feel a little bit like that back? Then when the when the first ESPN started, no. No. Keith at that point was a far bigger television presence than I was. I just wanted to. I wanted to see where my career was going to go. I had a wonderful for two. It is run to that point and done. Well in New York did the jets I the generals, and there was a certain future. President who owned that team? And I had really good running. So here's this opportunity out of the blue to give a shot at television. If it didn't work pack up and leave and fourteen years air it worked out pretty well. Yeah. You know, the New Jersey generals USFL and Donald Trump. He wasn't one of the original investors in the generals, but he did end up buying it. And you know, I don't wanna get too political because you know, they've called me in and we've had quote unquote meetings about my comments on on politics. But I mean, what was it like working for him, did you interact with them a lot. I know him before he owned the team. And I was there the very first year when oil man from Oklahoma named J Walter Dunkin bought the team. And brought in Hershel Walker and j Walter Dunkin God love may have been the only guy over made money out of the USFL. He sold the team to Trump in the second year. Trump is a couple of years older than I am. So I knew him ten generally around the city and. It was a schmuck van not much changed. But having said that he. He was. Who was a firecracker when he arrived, you know, he gave the league some attention. And then within two years he killed the league. You saw just living through all of that was really tough Donald again before he was. I knew Donald when he was the headline in the New York Post used to call him, the boy builder. And so I I knew him when he was a Donald long before he was the Donald and. I had no idea. Where his career was gone, much less. Mine. But looking back on it. You know, it was another comfy and experience for me along the way Gump in experience. Yes, that was that was a good movie, by the way, friend of mine. Jeff Pearlman who was a freelance writer has written a book about the US fell. And it was it's called football for a buck. You ought to pick it up if you if you can see it, and, you know, just going back to sportscenter Olbermann is a bit of a loon, isn't he? I mean that in a nice way, we're friends are look I gave Keith the second job of his broadcast career when he was twenty one years old. I know he's always a great talent. He he's unique. He's he's a smart guy as I've ever been around. He has his idiocy in Christie's. So I've known him since nineteen eighty eighty one. So do the math. And you know, I I have nothing but admiration for his talent and skill. I just wish she could hold a job. Longer than he generally has always remind him. Keith, you have more made more money being fired than you have being hired that is a gift that that is actually liked. The commentaries you used to do when he had his own political show were just amazing. And it was interesting about that. Again. I knew when it was twenty one years old, and I was much more politically oriented inactive. At that point. Then I thought he was I I had no idea hid political interest in the early eighties when we first cross past. But he's brilliant. There's no question. He's brilliant. And I wish he was on television doing that more than he's doing. I guess he's doing some stuff with sportscenter again. But he's he's a gifted broadcaster. Also, all of you became gifted actors because ESPN ended up building its marketing campaign around some of the athletes who purportedly work inside the building. And then all of you guys. And I I know that if anyone here is probably twenty six years old or younger, they probably have no idea. What Y two K was. And it really was nuts in nineteen ninety nine. There was just this huge fear that the computers would not figure out how to handle the move into the next century. And that the all the computers were going to explode all the infrastructure of the country was going to blow up we would be back in the dark ages and ESPN came up with a hilarious commercial. And it probably wasn't entitled follow me to freedom. But everybody remembers it as the follow me to freedom ad, and you probably known for that as much as anything, but sadly, right hood. What was fascinating not only about that spot. But the whole campaign when I first got there in eighty eight they did everything they could to diminish the personality of the people on the air. We had a president who said in a perfect world. We would have monkeys and clowns do the do the on air work and just have the ESPN logo behind you. And then one night in a drunken rage certain president. We we'd all had a few. And he said, you know, a perfect world. I'd have monkeys and doing all this. And then he looks that particular night was me Chris Berman in the late John Saunders. And he said, but you you and you missed up the plan. So fast forward about a year later, again, never attempting to thrust the personality of the folks on the air one day. There were called into a meeting and folks from Wieden Kennedy advertising agency from from Portland, it's done the Nike spots. All these years and chick stick the long ball that stuff they came in. And they said we have this idea. We're going to do a sports set of this is sportscenter campaign. And they were enormously successful. They're still running them to some degree these days with the the current crop of folks on the air and. At the beloved him. Thankfully, the computers. Didn't go haywire. And this spot and follow me to freedom is now twenty years old. The time magazine. Did you know they everybody did the the top this top that before the the decade the millennium and in advertising? The this is sportscenter campaign was ranked number six or seven all time. And it was like. Plus and. They gave me a lot of good punch lines. I was really lucky about that. Because you know, I was just a. Don't be little bearded guy. Read sports news. But they gave me this this weird stuff that does seem to work out. Okay. Follow me to freedom. You can find it on on YouTube. It's it's really funny actually all the commercials. Are you know, we've talked for all this time. We haven't really talked about your second life as a major league baseball radio announcer. And you went to the Yankees first of all and then ended up in Los Angeles briefly had it all that happen. Well, when I was seven years old growing up in New York Brooklyn dodger fan because every kid in my neighborhood on Long Island. The Brooklyn Dodgers. I game. I ever went to Ebbets field. First time. I turned the baseball game on the radio in my mom's kitchen listening on a scene. It's radio which seemingly was half the size of the kitchen. I heard this voice that I heard the crowd had heard the crack of the bat, and they this is really cool. And I just press my ear against the radio and one day. My mom said, well, you know, that's what he does for a living. I said well, who's he's Vince gully? Okay. So from the time I was seven years old all I ever wanted to be was the dodger announcer when I was eight they moved which would put a hurdle into the path. So that's all I ever wanted to be as a kid and again now I'm in this business since I was eighteen fifty two years. I just wanted to be the dodger naturally I didn't want to replace VIN. Scully? I wouldn't do want to be the next. I just wanted to announce for the dodgers and on this, you know, again guppy and trip that I've enjoyed fifteen years later, I'm doing it. And you know, again, my path here started really through ESPN. They got the baseball contract around ninety one ninety two started doing the very early editions of baseball tonight. And then I started doing some Wednesday games on television with the call the be games. Not the big network games. The ones that were played into a market where the main game was blacked out. And then they signed the Sunday night baseball contract for radio. They gave me that man. I after fourteen years at ESPN. Had. Actually, it was at the end of the two thousand one and I had two offers one to go to the Yankees, which I took the other ones to come to the giants. And my dad was an ill health, and this is again after nine eleven and and he was a ill health, and I thought well, gee, if be a native he could listen to me, you know, in his last few years, which it worked out, and it was there with the Yankees for three years. And and then the dodgers decided they wanted to make a move in their booth, and they invited me out and been here ever since. Well, are you just made some news here? I don't know that we knew that the giants wanted you to come here who do you? Remember who it was you were going to replace. I don't know who has going to replace. But as in work with John. You know, I had the exact same offer in terms of years and dollars the Yankees and head. My dad not been in nil health. I was actually thinking about coming here seriously because I was loved the city. And so it came down to my dad, and it was it was really wonderful that he was able to listen to me in his in his last couple of years, and you obviously ended up getting to work with VIN. Sometimes when you end up getting to know one of your idols, it ends up being a really bad experience. Because you see what they are. I take it wasn't the case with VIN. The VIN is one of the most extraordinarily people have been around and. Again. This is the guy that I wanted to be like knowing full, well, I could never replace just to work in a parallel universe. And I was I played pepper with Babe Ruth every day is how I looked at it. You know, he's the best to ever did what he's done what any of us have ever done, and then be alongside of for twelve years. And you know, there's so many memorable experiences. I had with then and it was right here. His final game in. Two years ago three years ago now, right? And just spending that last year with before every game at home, and he wasn't traveling at all anymore. Just came for that last trip here me and VIN and Rick Monday, my partner for fifteen years. The three of us would have dinner every night and figured out. I met Molin I had over a thousand dinners with VIN before every game. And you know, what it's like being in the press room and spending time with your your buddies. And and and you talk about everything and sometimes has nothing to do with baseball's just life, and and to have spent that final year with VIN was extraordinarily and then spending his very last day. Here was was something. So yeah, again, when I was seven I wanted to be like him and all these years later, I was able to work. Alongside him. And to this day. We still talk a lot on the phone when that's wonderful on the I just before we we leave. You know, I would be remiss fight it Nasc about this dodger team that you've been broadcasting six straight division titles. Two straight pennants. There's always a little shot in Freud here in in San Francisco. A lot of the fans here had rooted for the outcomes in the World Series that actually happen. But what I mean, how hard is it been in Los Angeles to get that close twice and to see this team, especially the first year when they went to Houston and play the Astros lost game seven at home. And then to get rolled like they did last year in against the Red Sox. I mean, I would imagine that that has just created a lot of chalkboard scratching angst in LA. I look at it differently. And maybe it's because of what I do for a living is a little more, clinical and a little less cynical. And winning the division six years in a row big deal getting to the World Series two years. Running is a big deal. You know, what we do for a living? What fans do what players? Do you wanna play in games at count in August and September when you come to the ballpark, and there's energy in every game counts. Every inning councilman as season gets closer and closer to the finish line. Every pitch counts. And that's all you can do. And then once you get there. It's the luck of the draws much as anything else, I think two years ago. Legitimate disappointment. Because they had the Astros on the roads last year. The Red Sox were just the better team. So I I marvel at the consistency of this team. The fact that the dodgers are more than likely going to win the division again this year unless something unforeseen happens not only testament to their strength with the relative weakness of the division. They're really good. And again, all you can do is hope to be relevant in September and October and let the chips fall where they may. I I guess I don't get as crazy about it as fans because some around to so closely. Okay. You don't call into the talk shows, then I don't listen to that. There you go. Well, listen, Charlie. This was a real pleasure. And for being on this podcast. You'll get the same gift certificates that I got when I was on your brigade show, which was bumpkins. Well, I'm hoping for twice as much twice as much twice times. Bupkus is still bupkus. Thanks a lot. And then you have a great rest of your season. Charlie. Thank you. Thanks again. For listening to this episode of giant splash. We'll have much more as the month of may in the season continue. Giants. Double plays part of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is editor in chief. If you like this show, please subscribe Tele friend or give us a review, you can support giants double play in a lot of great journalism with subscription to the chronicle. There are print and digital editions. You can find out more at SF chronicle dot com slash subscribe. If you wanna find me on Twitter, I am at Hank Schulman or you can Email me at h Shulman at SAF chronicle dot com.

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Lifeguard On Beaches Reopening; Nursing Home Staff Live In On-Site RVs

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Lifeguard On Beaches Reopening; Nursing Home Staff Live In On-Site RVs

"From NPR and WBZ. I'm Robin Young. I'm Tanya Moseley. It's here now and there's mixed news today and the progress to fight the corona virus the biotech company Maduna promising early results in a small human vaccine trial which show eight healthy. Volunteers developed antibodies. They were able to neutralize the virus. Battalion we're also learning that A. Us Navy sailors that had cove in nineteen and then recovered and tested negative. Now are sick against. We're not sure what this all says about antibodies. And we'll keep an eye on those stories. But meanwhile in Washington House Democrats are launching an investigation into the firing of another inspector general. This time at the State Department president trump dismissing Steve Clinic late last Friday after Secretary of state. Mike Pompeo asked him to. There have been reports for a while of grumbling in the department about Pompeo using taxpayer funds for personal services the State Department watchdog was reportedly looking into those complaints. Npr diplomatic correspondent. Michelle Kellerman is here and Michelle so counting up in the past six weeks trump fired the intelligence community. I G the Acting Defense Department I g and the Acting Health and Human Services G A patterned. Perhaps your sense of what's going on. Well Democrats are clearly seen a pattern. And they're looking for ways to strengthen the protections for Inspector General's there've been a few Republicans expressing concern Senator Mitt Romney for instance over the weekend said the firing of multiple inspectors general is unprecedented and a threat to accountable democracy. Susan Collins tweeted over the weekend that the president had not provided the kind of justification for the removal of the State Department's I G as required by law that she helped author But for the most part Republicans have been pretty silent about this trend. Well and we've known for a while that there were grumblings as we said about. Mike Pompeo the secretary of state potentially using taxpayer money for personal purposes now reports. That link was looking into this. What can you tell us about what he was looking at? Well we're hearing from Democrats on the hill that about a couple of things that he was investigating There's a report today from the Washington Post source did. Confirm it for me that the inspector general had mostly completed an investigation into the secretaries controversial decision to get around opposition. Congress and green light billions of dollars in arms sales to the Saudis. He had this emergency declaration that raised a lot of eyebrows last year and the idea was looking into that democratic sources. Also say that the I was looking into the misuse of a political appointee basically that POMPEO had US government. Employees do personal errands for him and for his wife. Things like picking up the dog at the groomers or things like that when I asked the Inspector General's office over the weekend I was told that they can't confirm or deny any particular investigation and the State Department has refused to comment on any of that. What about other members of the State Department? What are your sources telling you about their thoughts about this? Well I think there was a pretty well respected guy. And they're kind of some people that they were kind of numb. At this point there is definitely concern last year Cnn did this whole report about some security agents. Feeling like they'd become uber eats with guns There were a lot of concerns last year that I heard when the MRS POMPEII was on trips with the secretary so these these have been things that have been growing as well as you said. The Democrats have certainly been vocal about this. Here's the speaker Nancy Pelosi on face the nation yesterday. The president has the right to fire a federal employee. But the fact is if it looks like it's in retaliation for something that the attorney the I g the inspector general is doing that could be unlawful well and so what is your sense of repercussions either for Pompeo or you know. President trump has as Pelosi just said he has the right to fire federal employees. Well the Democrats on the hill have opened an investigation. They're asking for The State Department to hold any documents that they have that are related to this day. Need to find out if it was in retaliation for any of these issues that that Steve had been investigating. I'd also say that you know it's not that he was. He was very controversial. I mean he played a minor role in the whole impeachment. Saga but there were a couple of I G reports that that he had done recently that sort of angered top management. They were things about personnel matters. Dealing with the trump administration officials retaliating against those who they call Obama holdovers at the department. One report led to the resignation of Assistant Secretary of State for international organizations and another was critical of one of pompey's top aides Iran guy. Brian Hook so you know if if it was in retaliation for any of these things then that could be a problem for Pompeo. We'll see how this unfolds. Npr diplomatic correspond. Michele Kelemen. Thanks as always sure. Thank you well in Kentucky. The mother of a young black woman killed by police is now calling for no knock warrants to be banned and body cameras required for All Police Officers in Louisville Kentucky shot and killed Brianna Taylor in her apartment and March during our search warrant and the governor of Kentucky is now asking for both federal and local prosecutors to investigate joining us now for the latest is Ana law he. She is a reporter for W. F. P. L. in Louisville and Amina Take us back to the shooting. Police entered Brianna Taylor's apartment just after midnight on March thirteenth. Then what happened? They entered by force. And there's some disagreement over whether they introduced or rather identified themselves before doing so Neighbors and a Brownie. Tillers boyfriend Kenneth Walker say that they didn't they didn't hear them coming in but the police say they did announce themselves before breaking down the door once they did that that startled Walker and Taylor awake and Walker responded by firing his gun. He shot an officer in the leg And all three officers responded by firing back and it's believed that they shot over twenty bullets at least eight of them. Hit Brianna Taylor. Killing her just that same night. Why did police have a no knock warrant enter her apartment? The warrant was related to a drug investigation as you mentioned They claim that they believe. The main suspect jamarcus glover was receiving packages at Brianna 's apartment. And we know that Brianna Taylor and Jamarcus glover relationship in the past and remained in contact. The police claimed that they had seen him picking up a package there earlier. This year and that they use the Louisville postal inspector to confirm that he was in fact receiving packages there so they believed that her apartment was being used as some sort of drug operation. That's why requested the no knock warrant and operated the way that they did in the middle of the night However late last week the Louisville Postal Inspector told local. Tv that the police didn't use his office to verify dot claims so that throws some of the rationale for the warrant into question and we want to note that no drugs were recovered in Briana. 's home is that correct. That's correct. Yeah you mentioned her boyfriend Kenneth Walker who is a licensed gun owner that he shot one of the officers in the leg that night and his lawyer says he was acting in self defense after police used That battering Ram to enter the apartment. What's the latest with Walker? You're absolutely right and I should mention that. That officer who was shot was taken to surgery an since recovered but walkers been charged with first degree assault and attempting to murder a police officer. He was released a house arrest in late. March and that really angered police and their union described him as someone who attempted to kill a police officer and doesn't deserve to be on house arrest but that case is still pending against him There are some complication around. How that will all play out here locally Supporters of Walker. And Taylor I think at this point seemed to be saying that they just want the case thrown out of like his lawyer. They're saying he acted in self defense. He was startled awake in the middle of the night. Not Knowing who is entering his home and tried to defend himself. And Taylor. I'M GONNA this took place in March. Why is it getting so much attention right now? Yeah it was actually covered pretty well by a local media here. This was something that didn't escape notice however despite that and despite the fact that local activists have been talking about it and remembering Brianna Taylor. It didn't really reach national attention until more recently a little a little more than a week ago. Seems like one of the catalytic moments was when Shaun King. The activists shared her story on social media on his podcast and that really caught a lot of people's attention. You started seeing her picture circulating on twitter on Instagram with details and an I should add a lot of misinformation as well about what happened to her. But the basic facts about police entering her home at night and shooting her That's true and that's been shared very widely in recent days. And what parts of this story in the initial information that we were hearing was misinformation the misinformation. The key point that I've seen incorrectly shared recently is that the police were at the wrong house and I think that how you interpret that may be determines whether it's correct or not technically. They wrote the right house. They had a warrant for that apartment. Brianna Taylor's name was on the warrant a main suspect but she was involved in what they were after basically because they believed that her apartment was being used to do. These drug transactions in some way when people say the wrong house they may mean that they should not have gone there but technically speaking they went to the place they said they were going to. That's Amina Alawi. She is reporter with W. F. P. L. and mobile. Thank you so much thank you. It's here now and we've been wondering house. Tyson belongs you're doing. You may have heard of what he's doing. It's pretty incredible. He went to Yale then. Harvard his PhD in between he served three tours in Iraq as a Marine. Which in itself is pretty interesting but then in two thousand sixteen he bought and moved next door to the family run nursing home in. Bristol Connecticut okay. Then on March twenty second early on in the pandemic. He moved his entire staff onto the grounds of the nursing home to live in. Rv's so they wouldn't bring the krona virus into the facility and so far they haven't there's not one case in a state where autumn ninety four out of two hundred and sixteen facilities have had covert cases accounting for nearly half the deaths in that state. Would this has come at a personal cost about a half? A million of Tyson's own money. Tyson boulanger joins us now from the Shady Oaks home in Beautiful Bristol Connecticut Tyson. You pledged two months. I think you're over two months at this point not a single case not a single case not so far when you came up with this. What did you see for me? It was all about. Kirkman was just a nightmare. My heart is broken. Even just thinking about what had happened out there. The the Life Care Center of Washington the Corona virus that got in there and the dozens of people who passed and the struggle they went through was an alert. It was an alert all across the country. Everyone knew it was coming our way. It was coming to senior homes and we all begin to mobilize and one of the things that we did in early. March was we shut down for visitors. And that was heartbreaking enough. Just to tell family members that they wouldn't be able to come back to speak with their wives their mothers their aunts and it was just really rough and then our next step was to have a checkpoint screen the staff medically as they arrived for work. I stood that checkpoint and it reminded me a bit of my time in the Marines and it was really frustrating and very difficult. I didn't know exactly what to be looking for. We kept hearing about asymptomatic issues and how cove it might be able to transmit any signs. They'll health and even if that was just five percent ten percent and now we know it's so much more so he was this moment of like we've got to stop we've got to rethink all this. We've got something better and so we jumped. We jumped as quick as we could to bubble. No kidding you brought. Rv's into the parking lot. Your family had been in this business for forty four years when you bought it. Both of your grandparents had been in the home. This this sounds like it became personal for you. It is and each day here even now. I walk the home and I look in the eyes of my residents and I and tears come to me and I I just. I can't imagine a month from now. Two months from now three months from now and cove still going to be here in the senior homes. It's still going to be a threat what it's going to be like if they get it and I got to do everything I've got to do everything I can to save them and to find a safe way forward for our residents and caregivers well but this is pretty extreme. You ask your staff to move into these. Rv's have families of their own. They agree. There's no doubt at this is hardship in a volunteer assignment. We had forty eight staff members and I asked seventeen to come in and of course the first thing is their mothers their daughters their sisters there. They have all these relationships at home and they're going to miss out on so much by being away for the two months that's the first and then the next is low the number of hours of work to cover an entire week so they're doing sixty to eighty hours a week of work. It's really hard. And then as we've learned that easy to move in with her co workers for two months and it's just not an easy project but we all feel so good about the decision we feel like we've really made a difference and in our hometown. Four out of five nursing homes have covered and one of them has over twenty eight deaths and we just know that we've made the right decision for our home for our residents and our caregivers and to make it worthwhile and and to to show appreciation. I paid them large bonuses to our CNA's tore nurses. I pay our CNA's and General Staff fifteen thousand a month. And I pay our license nurses Twenty thousand dollars a month when we first got started with. This guy really didn't know that we'd have any assistance. We didn't know that we'd be able to to you. Know I was just drawing from my own savings and it looked pretty bleak but I. I just kept believing that there might be something up ahead. I wouldn't be able to see. And the immediate thing is is to save lives. I had to save lives head to save our home and tried to reach time a better testing and try to reach a better time a better equipment show as the time went by the payroll protection program opened up to us. And that's been a big help. Imagine that three hundred thousand dollars in P P protections enables you to pay some of those people donald core coming in but who said they couldn't yes. All of our furloughed staff were paying full. According to their average hours before we bubbled up able to take care of our community and the idea behind. That is it sooner or later. We're going to have to open back up. And when we do we WANNA make sure everybody was well taken care of and then beyond the payroll protection program. My mom helped that she made a large donation. And we've had very kind souls Go to our website and make small donations. And we're I think we're going to be okay. I I'm still sure a couple of hundred thousand but for for the feeling of knowing that we saved lives. We saved a residence. We saved our caregivers some caregivers. I've learned about them. Having health troubles eight had no idea before if they get corona virus they'll be susceptible to a serious illness so I have no regrets the thing that I've been trying for it and I've been struggling for. I really want to share this idea and this is why. I'm so grateful for the opportunity to speak with you today. Just can't be just about my home. It's gotta be all caregivers about all senior homes. We really need to see this public. Good well you say. Also it's something. The government should contribute to. You've suggested that if Connecticut for instance pays twenty five thousand per week in matching payroll funds to all of its three hundred sixty five nursing homes and assisted living centers for just six weeks. It would cost taxpayers fifty five million. Now a lot of people are gonNA say what fifty five million. That's a lot of money you say. What well at the federal level they're talking about trillions and then if it's compared to what happens when corona virus comes into a home homes ended up paying quite a bit anyways as hazard pay and the human costs of such suffering and the amount of personal protective equipment that they go through. There's not that much of a difference in cost between what we've done here. And what some of the homes have had to do but of course. There's a human advantage to what we've done is we don't have any sick people here. The other huge costs are if residents go from the nursing home to the hospital. And then we're talking about ventilators and I see us and now suddenly it would cost concern lots of an ICU. Visit like what is that. If it was a drug that we could pay for that. We could save sixty percent on the fatality rate from Kovin. We would have done it. Why not do the human solution if we had done that? Oh Wow what a savings of human life we would have had and if they wanted to they could just boil it all the way down to just calling it a pilot project. Let's have ten homes but see what like enticing. We know that there's a nurse there that can possibly break away from this incredibly hard work to speak with us. Faith hold on one point high. It's face faith for thank you so much. I hearing how overwhelmed. You guys aren't how much work you're doing there. But I just what's been like to live on the side of the nursing home. It hasn't always been easy Were here twenty four seven And just being unable to go home and be with family. I think that's everyone's biggest obstacle kids or oh. Yeah they're grown. I do have an elderly mom that I do help. Take care of that home. So that's my biggest concern but my husband's there so he helps out what a sacrifice on your part and I thank you on behalf but in a funny way. Maybe you're protecting your mom to buy really isolating yourself that is correct because otherwise who knows what I'd be bringing home. Yeah Yeah How can? How would you describe? I mean? We've heard it's tough. How what's the what's the toughest the hardest obstacle? It's just everybody's personality. You're you're with them all the time. They're they're now our family so we're we see true colors. Welcome to the House. Many people are right. A lot of people are going through. The what's the what's the upside. We know that you're being paid a little bit extra but some people would say no amount of money in the world would make the move into work. So what is the upside for you? What's been the reward the whole movement of trying to show that it can be done Bubbling up and all working together as a close team and protecting our elderly. There's got to be so rewarding. Yeah it's a good feeling a good feeling. I'm GonNa let you go back to it because I don't want to keep away from thank you. You're very well Robin back. Yeah so Tyson. I'm thinking I'm trying to think of that day. When you gather the staff and say okay we can all go home and I'm going to actually start going out a bit. I'm just wondering how hard that's going to be for you all given people who are looking to you through those. Is You say you into looking to you to protect them? I might that might be hard. It is I take it very very seriously. I live here at home. This is what I do I again. I speak with strong conviction that we have a way forward and I just want this idea out there. If there's another home somewhere across the country and I've I'm aware of one outside Atlanta. I'm aware of one outside Columbus. Ohio and I applaud them for doing. This idea of people should be aware that this is an option at least a bridge a patch through the search and then get to the other side Tyson at the Shady Oaks Nursing Care Facility in Bristol. Connecticut Tyson will link listeners. Up With you at here now dot org but thank you so much for speaking with. It was my pleasure and thank you for this opportunity. Thank you just Just something we all spoke with nurse faith broker will link you to pictures of the. Rv's she and others living in here Uber announced. Today it's cutting another three thousand jobs and closing forty five offices. The company is slashed about a quarter of its workforce in less than a month but some big tech companies in Silicon Valley are hiring fact. These are pretty good days to be in the market for a mid level white collar job in web development and Tech Support Rachel Myrow of member station K. Q. E. D. reports surely Dang was laid off in April when the Palo Alto based financial startup. Earning gutted it's marketing department stable is like a relative term. Dang would prefer to work for a bigger company. She owns a house in Hayward in the San Francisco Bay area with her fiance. And he's still working but the mortgage could become a in about six months a lot of good companies that I might want to work for or vision myself with are holding off on higher right now so I know like across the board like tech companies have hiring freezes unless it's a very technical role where it's like engineering or developer. The numbers backup Dame's assessment on hiring. Experts say this economic downturn favors giants with the cash reserves to wait out a revenue drop for pivot to areas with more potential for profit so for instance facebook which has said it plans to hire ten thousand people. This year wants a bigger piece of the online video market which is exploding while most of us are stuck at home because of the pandemic now silicon valley employers often split their payroll between fulltime employees with benefits and contractors which is why it makes sense to check in with. Hayden Brown chief of up work in employment platform that matches white-collar GIG workers with businesses. And so we're seeing water back to be around web development video production technical support is a big one so there's a lot of activity where people are trying to deploy install maintain technical systems for their business but there are skeptics. Who worry that what we're witnessing and Silicon Valley is a temporary uptick before bedtime. Settle in yet. It certainly seems like an odd time to try purposely to hire new people. Why why not? Just wait Rachel. Massaro directs research at the Silicon Valley Institute for Regional Studies at the nonprofit joint venture. Silicon Valley it that a lot of these data points a lot of the indicators that were looking at we'll have a lag time and in a few months will get a better understanding of the influence of the crisis. Right now those silicon valley companies on the down swing like AIRBNB. Getting a quarter of its workforce. This month are taking a hit because what they do is directly hurt by the pandemic but as the economy is a whole collapses into recession the current winners intact may not be able to sail above the fray for long for here. Now I'm Rachel myrow. And meanwhile this some more tech news to note apple is putting some of its employees back to work. The company announced that it's planning to reopen twenty-five stores in the US. This week. Florida Oklahoma Hawaii and Colorado will allow apple customers into the stores while Apple Stores in California and Washington will allow for curbside pickup around the world. Nearly one hundred apple stores started opening up as of yesterday. Apple says it's taking steps to keep workers and customers save including limiting how many people can enter acquiring face coverings for employees and customers. An apple will also require temperature checks at the door and conduct regular deep cleans of all surfaces the normal. This is here now. Many people are itching to get outside and socialize especially as the weather starts to get warm even though the fight to contain the corona virus is still very much in full force in parts of Southern California for instance. The number of infections and deaths are relatively flat but as people gather. Health officials are saying new hotspots and spikes in the number of cases for more on California's efforts to contain the virus. We have Dr George Rutherford via skype. He's an epidemiologist at the University of California Central Cisco. Welcome Dr Thank you so much. Well Dr let's start with the numbers. New Deaths and California have stayed basically flat at about seventy a day from a glance at the chart. It looks like we're not saying a steep decline and infections. A California took a proactive approach and shutting down cities and implementing social distancing measures. Very early on. Why aren't we seeing better results? Well it's because transmissions ongoing and these deaths are Craig among people who are infected. Probably two to three weeks before and you know as long as there's ongoing transmission will continue to see deaths now it is flat. It's not going up and that's heartening but we would really like to see it coming down. Why is there ongoing transmission? There's ongoing transmission. I think first and foremost among people who live in large households and so large multigenerational families it passes from one person to another to another to another and it just keeps going also people get it when they go outside especially if they're not wearing masks and if they're going into places where people are too close together and finally we see a few cases among essential workers still and all of all of this in many ways is interconnected because when you talk about essential workers many of them may live in homes with lots of family members are intergenerational members as you mentioned. The beginning is one of the complications to stay at home order. Yes absolutely and and so these things do linked together but to the extent that we can disentangle them and limit transmission outside of the home. That's what's GONNA take to get us down to a handful of cases this summer and moving from the governor state to to the Governor Stage three reopenings I mentioned southern California. The state is not homogeneous And Southern California seems to be doing worse than Northern California. Why is that well to start with? It's bigger I think the other thing probably that's going on Is that at least compared to the bay area. The rest of the state in which includes southern California went to shelter in place orders about four days later and in southern California. It really didn't seem like it had sunk in until the following Monday so it was almost six days later which represents at least one if not two generations of transmission of the virus so the chain of transmission or longer. They're more cases by the time we went to a shelter in place order. I think the other thing is probably more introductions into southern California than there were in the northern California. You mean people coming into the state correct both from Asia but in Los Angeles in particular from Europe. We have several chains of transmission that were tied to people coming from areas in Europe where there had been transmission that was a real big problem in New York with hundreds of new introductions from overseas. I also want to ask you about something else. Their concerns that some of the rural counties are now moving further into reopening. And that they just don't have enough testing. So some of those counties reopening are doing five to ten tests per one thousand people. That's according to the La Times. Is that enough? No I don't think so. I think the governor's goal is to be able to have two hundred tests per ten thousand people per day. A lot of these countries are very small. You know they're going to be able to get away with with fewer tests but on a per capita basis. It should be at about the same level and so I think that's something that needs to be worked on going forward now. The Chan Zuckerberg bio hub at the University of California. San Francisco is testing specimens for any local health department from anywhere in California so there is capacity protesting. If they WANNA get the specimens down to San Francisco. I mentioned earlier that We are seeing some spikes and in southern California in particular. We're hearing about these events. Where single person can infect many others in Pasadena for instance officials traced cluster of cases to a woman coughing at a birthday party? What do you take away from that? I mean there's also mother's Day services in Northern California butte county that may have exposed one hundred and eighty people. Is it just impossible to have gatherings until we have a vaccine? I think that's a fair way of thinking about it. Yes it's impossible to have gatherings unless people have masks on and they're outside and there's social distance which seems like none of those conditions seem to have been met by either of the events you're citing You know it's just too dangerous you know you hope that they're no mortality reminder of these events but it's playing with fire and you know we understand that people want to be able to get back to the lives. They used to leave. It just can't happen quite yet. I think there's a really great example from Hong Kong which has had several thousand cases but only four deaths. What they're doing is everybody wears masks. And I think that the whole idea of wearing masks is what's going to get us out of this at least out out of it until we get to a vaccine. That's Dr George Rutherford. He's an epidemiologist at the University of California San Francisco. Thank you doctor. You Bet my pleasure. Thank you Dr. Rutherford says one place that could potentially be safe our beaches if people social distance and wear masks when they're not swimming gus. Avi Law is the president of the United States lifesaving association. He's a retired lifeguard for California state beaches in southern California and he's been thinking a lot about the additional safety measures for both lifeguards. And the public gusts. Thanks for joining us. You're welcome Tanya so you were an ocean lifeguard for thirty four years and this weekend we saw our first full days of great weather and open beaches over a month here in southern California. What's your reaction to the openings? While the act the reaction is one of excitement because it's always exciting to get people on the beach and get the beaches open and have great weather Just some confusion and some trepidation because the rules are changing almost daily so just the fact that there are no hard fast roles right now and we have to pay attention again to what the local officials are telling us in our telling the public. One of the things I've been struck by and the role of lifeguards Many of them this weekend. Were also serving a social distancing police in a in a way instructing people not to stand idle or get too close thinking about that in the context of what life guards are there for as well as to watch the water. What are some of your other biggest concerns for lifeguards? Is they get back to work. Well social distancing is a big one but the major part of life saving is also educating the public of how to remain safe whether it's not to swim in an in an area where it's dangerous or the rip currents but now we have to remind them that they should be exercising social distancing but at the same time we still have to maintain a strong focus on the water safety aspects of the job. Yeah one thing we noticed is that your group is advising lifeguards not to give mouth-to-mouth resuscitation What would they do? Actually instead of. Someone wasn't breathing well. They could use a bag. Valve mass has a big bag on it. That feels with air. You cover the mouth and the nose with it and you forcefully. Squeeze the bag in. It'll allow you to push air into the airway you. It's been a while since they recommended actual mouth to mouth resuscitation by the layperson. So if you come upon someone in itself who's and breathing you can start by giving compressions until someone shows up that has more advanced life support equipment available your general advice for the public if they want to go out and enjoy the beach and also sort of assist the lifeguards in their and their jobs based on their behaviour general advice would be. Make sure that you know the local rules. I'm from Southern California. In southern California there are different entities. That are that run different beaches so the rules are a little bit different in every city or county so you need to be aware of what the rules are and the the. Lifeguards can help you by answering those questions for you. If the rules say that you have to keep moving and can't sit on the beach or can't congregate with your friends then. Please obey the rules. Because not obeying the rules takes the focus off of the safety of everyone involved not just the persons that are visiting the fact that if you get if you live close enough to a body of water and you can go down there and follow the rules but get go for a walk because nature is still out there. It's still beautiful. I tried to get outside every day and get near the water or in the water. But if you can't then I just have to wait until the opportunity. The word has become where it does become available. That's gusts Allah president of the United States Lifesaving Association Gus. Thank you so much. You're welcome talking. Businesses that are outdoors have been reopening and parts of the country including restaurants with outdoor seating garden stores. Those that didn't close in the first place and drive in movie theaters. But what about their indoor counterparts? Can you imagine having a meal with a mask? On Derek Thompson has been looking at the research into how the virus spreads indoors. He senior editor at the Atlantic joins us from Washington every Monday. So Derrick welcome back to be here and you and everyone. They're looking at how to make you know. Indoor dining for instance save now tomorrow. We're going to speak with a researcher about the role of air conditioning in spreading a virus indoors. How maybe the kind of air conditioner makes a difference But also what might actually kill indoor viruses? What's being tried in other countries But you've lifted other studies from the CDC that show how a virus spreads indoors start with research about a Korean call center. What were the findings? There yeah this is a really extraordinary study from the Korea. Cdc So basically in early March the Korea CDC learns that there are some sick individuals who are going to call center in downtown. Seoul a realized that these people work in the eighth floor of a nineteen story mixed use building so there are hundreds of offices hundreds of apartments and they think. Oh my God. The possibility of a mass outbreak at this place is extraordinary but when they investigate what they find is really interesting about one hundred patients in the entire building of about a thousand test positive. But they're all on one floor and more than that they're all on one side of the floor in one densely packed phone bank so at the CDC determine from this study was the fact that people got so much sicker on one side of the floor than the other suggest. It's not just about shared elevator space or shared lobby space. It's about shared air. That if you're sitting in a tightly packed unventilated space huffing and puffing with a bunch of other people you're breathing in this spray of toxic droplets. That people are emitting when they're talking and that that is the main vector transmissibility and what this says more broadly about all of our indoor spaces is that what seems to be most dangerous. Are these spaces? That are tightly. Packed close spaces were lots of people are going to be talking and so they're going to be breathing in a lot of the same air that seems to be the most dangerous place where you can see the transmission of covert nineteen. Let's say a bar you know. Many people are packing bars. But it sounds like they are saying that if you're in an elevator nobody's talking and you're only in there for a couple of minutes as opposed to people who are talking for a living. 'cause IT'S A call center and they're tightly packed together for a long time. That's a huge difference. Yeah from the Public Health experts that I've spoken to. I would say it's a spectrum of risk you don't WanNa be in an elevator that suddenly breaks with four other people if one of those people has coverted nineteen but loud speech in particular emits a spray of fluid droplets so people who are talking loudly. If you're in a call center you are being paid to constantly talk another really good example. A really bad example is someone actually who spent a lot of time. Acting in being in plays is in music. Rehearsals there's been other studies that have shown that there's been huge outbreaks in. Choral rehearsals when you get a bunch of people together. That are singing into each other's faces once again you're getting the spray of fluid droplets and that is really dangerous too so I think what the public health experts would say is think about this as a spectrum if you're in a close base with people that are wearing masks and not talking. That's definitely a lot safer than being in a similarly close Place where there aren't mask. People are talking constantly but at the same time you do I think in general wants to avoid being tightly closed unventilated space with other people. If one of them is sick and you mentioned the choir practice there was that one in Washington State Sixty one people attended later. There were thirty two confirmed cases in that group very serious cases and two deaths. So there's that example of how they not only were singing with everything that is brought to that. They were together when they were doing that. You know this is all reminding me just reading that during the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic in Boston. There were fine for people who are called big talkers people. We're just loud and emitted a so. They had a sense back then that it was the amount of energy behind your speeches. Well what does that mean for like you know sporting events? This is a really good question. I mean you're already seeing in places like South Korea that are beginning very slowly to open up professional sports at their starting without fans. And that's because if you're a fan of of your team and they hit a home run or you're watching basketball and someone hits a three two win the game. You want to scream. But that very same instinct that is cherish abol in normal circumstances secondly becomes potentially toxic during an epidemic. And so I think I've spoken to healthy building. Experts thinking exactly about how we can get back to normalcy even before a vaccine in sports stadiums but it simply requires not feeling though. Stadium's capacity requires queuing up lines. The people can constantly remain socially distanced even if they are wearing masks. You'RE NOT GONNA get back. The same level of normality in a world. Where normal behavior is suddenly so dangerous? Yeah you'RE NOT GONNA go right Thompson. Senior editor at the Atlantic. Thanks as always thank you so the takeaway there we is. Beware the talkers here. Now is a production of NPR and WR Association of the BBC World Service on Robbie. I'm Tanya mostly this is here.

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"The plants capture c o two what if we could help industrial plants capture it to thank you? We could help lower emissions more and more scientists than carbon capture is key to reducing CO two emissions globally. It's one way. Exxon Mobil is helping industrial plants be more like plants. That's the unexpected energy of Exxon Mobil. This week's Adam Schefter podcast. We'll be joined by a former and current Dallas cowboy I Darren witching, little come on to speak about his fourteen year career ESPN before he now leaves to go to ES RPG premier commercial real estate advisory firm based in Dallas, and then we'll be joined by the Cowboys outstanding young linebacker. Jalen Smith, who has business interests of his own. He also talks about all that awaits the Cowboys this upcoming season, but first up our friend, our colleague Darren Woodson, or joining us, now five time, Pro Bowl selection, four time I team all pro player. Three time Super Bowl champion and two-time, Adam Schefter podcast. Darren woodson? You know, I gotta tell you I wanted to get your I was going to call you today to say goodbye. We are taping this on your very last day at ESPN, and I was going to call you to say how much I'm gonna miss work with you. How much I enjoyed working with you, and how much loved having his teammate. But I said, you know what? Let's just get him on the podcast and tell them in person how much he's meant to us, and I wanna thank you for being such a great teammate, such a great guy. It's funny because people see you on TV look, so affable. And that's exactly the way that you are. We are gonna miss having you around Bristol man appreciate that fifty and look man. It's you know, I'll tell you what the hardest thing was, I woke up this morning in the DoubleTree where he's your second home as well. And I wake up this morning and the folks at the DoubleTree know that this my last day, and they all come out this morning, when I'm, I'm a ritual guy, of course. So they know and I'm coming down. I'll grab that coffee grab the food and I'm giving. Hugs, and it's like their family man. They've been family for for so long. I know them better. Then they probably know themselves. I know the kids, I know that churches, I know I just, it's just I just become a part of them and it's the same thing here. You cross the street at ESPN is, you know, these aren't just you know, I didn't just do TV. I've gotten no friends and families, and it's just been great mandate experiences is one thing to be on air man. But it's even that much better to built great relationships over the years. And that's speaks to the kinda guy that you are that you would know all of those hotel employees who their kids are where their churches, are you brought him in as guests to the show in person, right? Yeah. Yeah. Was anyone crying when they take a body today me? There are like, oh, hey, man. Good looking oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. There was some tears man but I should have some tear yesterday. I was on the show with a guy been on the air with for ten years, and teddy Bruschi and, and it was emotional, and teddy, and I have, you know, we're beyond just, you know, colleagues man, we were like brothers. We talk every day during the week until the leading up to the Thursday and Friday show. So it was hard yesterday. You know, seeing, you know, a lot of the, the is, and all the videos of us, you know, in, in years past. Well think about this, and I thought about this this morning. You spent thirteen years thirteen years with the Dallas Cowboys spent fourteen years, or the PIN, you've been ESPN longer thing, you played safety. The Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. I have, you know, is crazy, how the years is run up on each other, and they just, you know that moves that fast but, you know, a part of mine my entire life. I've played started playing football in, when I was eight years old. And it's been around football forever. And of course, this decision was made for me to move on based on the fact that I needed to grow, and I got a real estate business in Dallas called ES RPI. We're we're located at the star. I go and I wanna grow the business world in it's it's been fun. I fell in love with the business but four or five years ago, and I've, it's continued to grow and the group that I have the team that I have around me is just is nominal. And you know that next step in life man, I'm ready to take on that challenge. What about the ES RPI business make you love it? So much team, the team, it's the one thing about here at ESPN is you have, you know, I work with you, and I'll work with teddy and. You have individual guys and, you know, most of us have come from some success, or have had success in our lives. And that's one thing. But for me at RPI it's you know, there's a partnership, and I'm along with some one a seven partners. But not only that, it's, it's the entire the, the, the, the brokers that are underneath me the lease Adleman group that, that my executive executive systems that are there, you know, forty employees at are there as well that are working every day, and for me, it's the team, it's to see those folks that, that haven't experienced this type of success have some success, financially and built capital wealth for themselves. And that's where, you know, in sit down every day and half five or six people gain planning in trying to help out a client find office space. That's been fun to me. It's just that transition has been really competitive for me, and I feel like every day I wake up, and it's that, that it thing that makes me go. And for those who don't know ES RPM, a commercial real estate. It via Serie firm, you've been working there a long time, right? Yeah. Well, I've been a partner for two years now. So I became a partner about a year ago and, and been with the firm for for about two years of firm has been started about five years ago. So how difficult was it for you to make that decision to leave your teaming again you've pattern here? We're going thirteen years. The Cowboys fourteen years with SPN. You've been with for two years out. Imagine you got another dozen years left at P before you move on to the next phase your life, then. Absolutely. And this is going to be a long term deal. This is going to be something where I'm at ES RPM, and my kids are going to see the process of their dad taking a chance, and that's that's one. Another reason why I wanted to move on as well. Because my kids, have always known me as a either football player or TV personality. Now they see their father in the business world. They see me every day getting up early in the morning being dedicated to the task and learning a new business in being. Heavily involved now. And I've always wanted to be a part of my kids will see me make this transition as well. So, you know, and I'm going to have to and hey, I've been overcoming a lot of things in my life man. And this is another opportunity overcome some of the fears that I've always had what drew you to commercial real estate. When did that happen, a guy named Steve Jarvi actually started with president, the president of the company, but Roger Staubach owned a company called star back and company and sold out to a company called J, L L, our leadership at ES RPI is, you know sharing Morrison whose the, the CEO's Steve Jarvi the president CARA gas. They are all working with Roger Staubach in, in the day. And when SABA code out they had a little time. They had to spend that another firm, and then they started up ES RPI and Steve Jarvi, and I have known each other since our kids before years old, and he's been recruited me since he was at Starbucks days and knew I was going to be special in this industry, and he's the one that. Really, pushed the envelope and say, hey, look, you're going to you can do TV all you want, but you need to take on this, this next challenge and Roger was adamant as far as me making this leap into the real estate business. Roger starbuck Roger starbuck. What did he tell you about it? He told me people person he said, may your people purchase your your, you would be greatness, service industry and Rogers guide that has meant toward me and not only myself at Emmett and a lot of other players over the years as a Cowboys. He's mentored us off the field as businessman, and he gave me that, that inspiration and that confidence to be a guy that's, that's willing to take the next step willing to get outside of my comfort zone, which has been sports and get into the business world. And that was a huge part of that decision along with Steve Jarvi, just making that push in basically, kicking me in the bud saying, hey man, you need to do this now. And now is the time for me to go full all the way in you talked about Roger starbuck being a mentor to you. What is the biggest thing that you've learned? From him. The -bility to overcome. And if you hear Roger story, Roger was the starting quarterback of course of the Dallas Cowboys in the seventies, sixties seventies, and in play in how to financial career, you know, went to the Super Bowl number of times and didn't want them all, but ended up getting a couple of Super Bowl rings, but Roger not only in the in the sports world. But in the business world has them losses has some huge losses in the eighties and had to overcome some of those huge financial losses to get where he is day. And we know he sold his business for hundreds of millions of dollars, just put it that way. He sold saw that company for a hundred hundred million dollars but he had overcome so much debt early on in the seventies and eighties. And they went back, then, as you well know they were playing football and working in the Aussies, and he again to put that kind of time in to be that committed is one thing. But I think the one thing that really love about this man. Roger Staubach is. He's been not only, you know, great sports guy been in the community, but the community service that he is provided in the in the things that he does on a day-to-day basis. Within that within a Dallas Fort Worth market, as far as United ways spending, his time doing that all the charitable attributes he's doing the Jesuits in helping helping them the raise money. He's just been such a pillar of service in giving for so long that that's what really inspires me is that, you know. Yeah. He's got a lot of fame from what he's done. But he does a lot of things under the table that you would never ever see. And you're talking about his characteristics and traits, man. And I will just tell you this, and it pales in comparison to all the attributes that you are mentioning growing up and even to this day. I think he was probably the best quarterback I ever saw. I'll say this to you. I remember watching football games as a little boy, a little boy, and I can't ever remember time riper put on a game was unbelievable how many times he was down. He would get the ball back. And there was never a time with two minutes left when he didn't come through and producing I cover. John Elway in Denver for fifteen plus years. And John Elway became a successor to Roger, Roger starbuck was the first guy who I ever saw demonstrate the clutch gene in sports. But hearing you talk about him. I feel bad that I even think of him as this great football straight, man. Yeah. He tells his story where he was in Israel one time, a long time ago and he was with Joe Montana on on the elevator. And there was a young man that was on the elevator and Joe Montana and Roger starbuck at the same time, and they get up on the second floor and Joe Montana, walks off the elevator in the young masses. Looks over to Roger Staubach says, do you know who that is Rodriguez? Who is that? And he says, that's Joe Montana. Oh, wow. That's that isn't that is great Joe much. He says, you know what you look like that. That guy that real estate guy in Dallas. No dodger. Dodger was some kind of player you talked about teddy Sangabodi or teammate teddy. Are there any teammates you get in touch with your cowboy days any teammates here now that you see lever regular on your life on man? There's so many yesterday. Michael Irvin reached out, right when he heard the news Dion Sanders reached out. I mean Troy Aikman Daryl Johnston. I mean, the list goes well listen. We still live in Dallas and a lot of those guys that I played with in the nineties in early two thousands. We've made home Dallas home and I see these guys every other week we live close to each other. So it hasn't things have not changed as far as that aspect. So, you know, they'll always be Kevin Smith is a really good friend of mine that came in nineteen ninety two, and he was my roommate for ten straight years. We talked in depth over the over the years. And I've had these conversations with these guys can honestly, tell you this, Michael, Irvin is a guy that says you don't leave stay say, you know, I want you to be at ESPN do your thing. Gets a. No, it love at Jerry Jones owner of the Dallas Cowboys would love for me to stay and be here at ESPN because we're talking calbos a lot of times when I'm on the mic. So but we're still will. Yeah. So there's a lot of, you know. Former players owner, of course, and the Jones family that still part of my life. What will it be like for you after twenty seven years to have a job that is at finally an officially out of the public eye? You're not a football player. You're not on TV you're working for a commercial real estate advisory firm. I feel like honestly, I've never wanted to be that to be my identity to just to be a football player or in the public eye and being on ESPN of always wanted more. Like there's, there's a part of me. That's an introvert part. You've been around me, a long enough to, to know that I'm not the outgoing guy, I'm a little bit more reserved and all, and I've always had that type of personality. But I'm a I'm a grinder man. I just I got I have to see things through and I have to be totally focused on what's in front of me. And I think that's what ES RPI dose for me. It allows me to sit down with a group of guys. And it doesn't have to there's doesn't have to be a lot of hoopla around it at all. It's just let's work through this. Let's find a way to win through this process. And even if we lose taking on a chin this pick ourselves up overcome move forward. But that's I don't see myself as having to have the camera in front of you don't miss it. I don't miss it. Now, I've been I've, you know, since since the Super Bowl have not been in front of the camera and I didn't miss it one bit. That's not why we do what we do. And I always say that I'm a reporter and what I do sometimes goes on TV and, you know, I don't care when we're on TV. I'm no report. Yeah, that's the way it is. TV is secondary to all that we do, but will you allow yourself a moment now to think about all the transpired in your life over the last fourteen years, and let me recount some things here? And it's not that much of a lot more, but you have basically four-day television career. You've got remarried. You've had another child you've turned fifty. You've added more and more to your reputation. You've made all these new friends in Bristol Connecticut up, and their think about everything that's transpired for you personally last fourteen years. And now it's onto the next chapter what part of that will make you most nostalgic or said. Again, going back to the relationships, man. That that's what will make me sad. That, that's what will make me, you know, you know, yesterday being on that show and knowing that, I'm not gonna see teddy, you're probably talk to him every day watching Mark Schleyer move on a few years ago was, I mean man for me broke my heart watching her, you know, Herm left, you know, last year in those are beyond just TV is just so much more to, to know any guys. That's that's, that's the sad part knowing that, I'm not going to be talking to Seth or Cambo every day. I mean, you know, these relationships fourteen years that I've dealt what, so that's the part of me that I'm definitely going to miss Burke, these names like Hermann teddy, and Sean. And I just think of all the great people Daime with all the grape you get to work with the one trait that runs through them the Hasselback brothers. Yeah. All men of great character. Yeah. Really likes roots tremendous people that we get to work with in through, and it's, it's a tremendous group. And there's a reason that every one of you has forged the success that you've had, and it's not just because of your talent and abilities because of the type of people you are in the lives that you live and that's true. And we haven't changed man. I mean, hey, listen, I think this is what made a strong football football men is not knows fortune the good relationships, but the work the work, people don't see that shift. You know, I, I wish I could show my kids, how much work you put into all I see is okay. You're releasing this breaking news, but I I've sat there in watched you for hours on the set at time, breaking news. I mean it's just texts coming in. You're sending things out and reading up. I mean it's just it's it's doesn't stop. It's nonstop man. And I appreciate your work ethic. Man in what you. The tables. I appreciate and before I let you go down. I want to ask you, we have a guest on after you who is going to be cut in the same cloth as Roger stall back, and you and some of the great people who've passed through the Cowboys organization to go on to have great business careers. Jalen smith. Have you gotten to know him at all as a person because he isn't impressive young man? I know he's a great football player again. Let's get past that and talked about the kind of guy that he is in what are you spires to do with his life? Here's a guy that basically wants to be an entrepreneur is into venture capital is into all sorts of things that honestly away too smart for even me to figure out. I just spent two days with Jalen on a an excursion golf excursion out to west Texas, about two weeks ago and I really got to know him. And he is brilliant. He he's a guy that can juggle things many things his brain works that way that it's not just about football and he won't be just identified as just a football player. There's so much more in his makeup, and I can really identify with that really can't. But the kid himself is just a beautiful soul. Man, is he there's no give up? And we, we know the tragedy of you know how he you know. Toward a tours ACL and have to into big time knee injury. In his bowl game at Notre Dame. And again so high AllState and he was supposed to be the top five pick. And he had to sit out basically set a whole season when he came back. He wasn't the same guy he had dropped foot and couldn't run couldn't do the things. But never gave up confidence was always, they're always optimistic always fighting through things. And when even when he had bad workouts, you know, he found a way to overcome those things man. But he is, he's one of those guys that that will be a pillar success and within that organization and the Cowboys love him. They just love the loves personality low how he plays the game and it's the same that he didn't make the Pro Bowl last year. And I told him it was a shame. He says, don't worry about it. I'll make this year. So he just that kind of personality. And again, he's gonna have a great business career like many former Cowboys like you are about to go onto your cellphone a thank you for everything that you've done for ESPN. I want to thank you for the honor of getting to know you and be. A friend of yours a colleague of yours through the years. We will root for you from afar. You're always welcome back in Bristol, Connecticut. And I wanna thank you for everything. You've done for the time today. Shifty love you, brother. Always having always Willman. Thank appreciate that respect is mutual de Woody, thanks. We'll be back in a moment with Cowboys linebacker. Jalen smith. I wanna tell you about ZipRecruiter hiring used to be hard, multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes. Confusing review process, but today, hiring can be easy and you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash A. 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But I gotta tell you this vivid seats thing got me, completely change one hundred percent authentic, and I got these great seats yesterday. Vivid seats at stress-free. Wait. What are you doing? Put mail them a hotdog. What's the matter with you? Stephen we know. Joining us now, the Cowboys outstanding inside linebacker, Jalen Smith and Jim, we're going to get to the Jalen Smith, minority entrepreneurship institute the program that you'll be launching here in July. But I asked you about last year. The Cowboys linebacking crew really seemed to take a step forward. How do you put into perspective, what you in van direction, the rest of your linebacking teammates have accomplished and what is your perspective on where this group can go? Man, we've been able to first of all thanks for having me. Hey, my pleasure. Have you means a lot man? But our, our core man on its, we're family. You know, we, we understand the foundation that we've built and the camaraderie. Goes on mats. You know, we, we've got five six guys aren't, you know, the, the entire linebacker roster could all be stars in this league. You know what I mean? So for for us knowing that, and then just being genuine good people who love the game of football, that's really was jailed together. Have you ever held like a like late in Vandermeesch? After a play. Absolutely. I've done it multiple times. He's, he's talking. He's taught me a lot. Like what? How to how I'm not gonna do it on the air. Come on give us one shot on air. Listen man, I got some secret sauce midday. He didn't he didn't eight and put me on game. He has a kidney, man. So it's, it's, it's wonderful for sure. You mentioned that your linebacking crew is like family, and your real family. Your brother rod signed with the giants, what's going to be like going up against him this season in tackling him. Man, I get the later would on final. And you're not holding back. No, I'm not holding back. You know, we, it was a blessing for us to to be able to play together for, for three years. No one, I mean with my brother going to stay to me going Notre Dame. We'd never got a chance to play, you know, together so that was wonderful. You know, me getting draft him him getting waived and signed by the Cowboys plan for four years, and then me being drafted by the Cowboys are which is our dad's favorite team that was a dream come true. But now he goes to whatever arrivals, and like I said, I get to beat up on them. Now, I'm looking forward to your dad's favorite team growing up was the Dallas Cowboys absolutely would and today still is at the Dallas Cowboys are yet to split his allegiance now to some giant phantom. He's, he's still Dallas Cowboys fan, but his only son. Older son's place for giant now. He's, he's gonna have a he'll have jersey in the closet. So Jalen, let's picture this, what would it mean to you, and your dad as a longtime Cowboys fan if you can help return, this team to the promised land, and get it another Super Bowl title? It would mean everything, you know, for us. We understand the Cowboys standard that, you know what set and for us I it's our duty to bring home another championship. It's been so many years of almost twenty years believe. It. You know if keeps up. So we, we understand that the time is now. But we have to focus one day. It's actually over twenty years over twenty. It is over twenty. Wow. It's been what ninety five right? Yeah, I believe that's the last one that you know that year I was born. So I should have known that isn't that right? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Twenty I'll be twenty four next month. So Jim nice season. What a great thing to be twenty four to be playing the way you are to be a restricted free agent after the twenty nine thousand nine season when you'll have only three accrued seasons your future. Looking very right now. Jalen? Yeah, man. It's, it's a blessing. You know, the Cowboys, they took a chance on me. And now they're receiving their return on them vestment, and we'll get to that. We'll get to that in a moment you're going to be playing the NFC east this year. And there's going to be a couple of rookie quarterback's net division now. We'll see whether or not they play with Dwayne Haskins in Washington and dangle Jones in Duke. But how much do you know about either quarterback? Man, I watched one half. And like I said, my brother played it will house, they die hard how state fan so by fourth, you know, growing up, I had to watch how state so I've always been fine. I'm I'm mid with God love bit west. So anything for the mid west like I rock with except permission. Taking a little shot there. Jalen, that's okay with that. I know a lot. I know a lot about that. My little brother. Austin Maggie plays what's why receiver house fake? They were roommates him and a roommate. So, wow. I got a chance to mine a lot, but we will gonna very match up, what has stood out to you about him being that you've had the chance to really watch him. The fact that he's explosive his arm. He can make every throughout. And he's Keith quarterback true quarterback, you know, I don't know about, you know, the naysayer anyone down the main thing that nature. I know he's a little bummed that he you know, that he fell and draft. But we, we all we all have a our own sort of ED's if that makes sense. So he'll be how 'bout dangle Jones? Do you know anything about him? Have you gotten a chance to watch? No. I, I haven't got a chance to watch him. I know that he's you know, he went to play that Duke. So he's he has to be, you know, intelligent guy with the with the football IQ of no other this, that's the type of guys that the giants like draft. So I'm looking forward to to, you know to, to land a hit on them. Like I did. So there were couple of giants now to hit dangle Jones, rod Smith. We gotta take care of couple of giants, their New York. Right. You know how they ended up the is we will. You bring the NFC east you play for the Dallas Cowboys you played for Notre Dame. How do you handle playing for two of the football franchises that are about as historic as they are in their respective sports. What have you taken out of an experience like that? Well, the, you know, for me, I've been able to maximize on these opportunities just being apart of to rich organizations in impetus, you know, they're below. So, you know, the reach is naturally, widened for that point, it's a blessing, you gotta soak it all in. But with that comes great respect and, and in, in what's given of you to accomplish. You know, you gotta reach that high that high goal and it's not for less. You know, the reason why you know the Cowboys are calling their team. The Notre Dame speaks for itself, you know, being a, a wonderful kinds of rich univer- university with so much history. So it's something that, you know, I I've accepted, I'll I love in a part of Richard English. Do you see and feel the similarities between the two different groups? Absolutely. I mean like I say you can go anywhere in the country, you know, someone's gonna know about that star in about the every time you know, of Notre Dame. So, like I said to is, is just wonderful. It's an amazing experience. I can't even put into words but it's just something it's a blessing from God. And, you know, I have to produce a mass when I'm when I'm going to continue to do. Jill everybody knows about demeaning that you suffer back in the two thousand sixteen fiesta bowl against Ohio State, and we know your stance that you would do all again. But knowing what you've been through, there's that change your opinion at all on whether college players should be paid at all. I mean made me, you know, an entrepreneur myself business, owner investor in private equity real estate developments and venture capital. You know, I understand. You know, risk reward you know. Yup. And with me deciding play that game, and then what happened happened, you know, going to be a top three pick and then telling I and all that good stuff. I made it okay for people to make businesses, you know, you, you name it any guy after me, you know, just having a decision to, to, to decide whether they, you know, want to play in a bowl game or not for me. You know my decision what I wanted to play. So is it brings a so much joy, just understanding that because of what happened to me, like it like people like are really can make the decision that's best for them now for me. My the best decision for me was to play in my final collegiate game for for Notre Dame university. You know when you talk about us getting like when you talk about releasing players getting paid. I mean, there's so much that go so much that goes on from a profitable standpoint for these organizations, just don't know. I don't know what the structure would be. They have to do something something. It's going to be it. It it's definitely I I'm definitely going to be I think we're gonna see a change. It's obvious. Sure it would it would be welcome. I will say that for sure. And you bring up the fact that you did that in the building people saw you, do you think that people refer back to your example, and that you and what happened to, you will influence what people do in the future? Yeah. I mean, it's the, the Jalen Smith, you know. From I'm trying to think who came after me. Like McCaffrey winter for news. Correct. Correct. Who was it this year? I know Nick both he got her early in the year, you know, making decisions you know what I mean. It's Liz goes on. But I'm just proud that. Like I said, you know, taking your emotions out of it being able to put the business at on it makes us decisions. But you did that enter into why you went ahead to go and create. DJ Lynn Smith minority. Entrepreneurship instituting, you could explain to people what that is exactly. I mean, I have an idea what we're talking about matching minority owned investment opportunities with impact investors, but why don't you tell people what it isn't how this came to be? Yeah. Absolutely man. I've wanted to be an entrepreneur mind highlight. So, so getting the education, especially these last three years of being professional, you know, in, in beyond the education and being able to invest and like I said, private equity venture capital real see the governments and just being a business owner I in businesses, it's about access to quality Bill flow. And, and for me having that myself with great networks, I wanted to provide that to, to others, especially minorities, black Brown. What Sinoe for dis and desire to be us guys and girls desire to be, but they don't have the financial funding mentor ship or the strategic planning on. So that's what the goal is to do. So we're doing our first Kate showcasing, in Indiana. So it's lifelock, my hometown and you know, it's going to be about one hundred hundred people there, involved be. Five contestants three winters, and they'll be receiving those three things like I said, and next year, we'll move to Dallas and each year where we'll both from work throughout the country and spread this, this knowledge is information access. I'm excited about the, the, the I it's, it's truly my purpose. Be honest. Let it. Well, you know, you mentioned being an entrepreneur wanted to be an entrepreneur entire life. How does somebody from the mid west grown up in Fort Wayne? Starring at linebacker running back wanted to become an entrepreneur. Understanding the, the access that is allows, you know, being a little more control of my time, getting out of the rat, race or something. I've always wanted to, you know being a being from the south side, you don't have to do a lot. You know as wanted to be able to provide generational wealth, and in group, economic group, economics meeting, just being a horizontally night, and not, not always vertical. So this is something that, that is tracked me growing up. And I've always wanted to learn so got myself into reading and gaining a lot of mentors on the way like who, who has stood out to you in terms of mentor ship. That you've learned a lot from. Man Eugene Parker. Oh, all right, man Zini. He passed the gang leaks before I got drafted, he's actually related to me and rot. So his aunt is me and rods grandmother. Wow, we were we're related from the time I was eleven years old. You know, I knew my agent was gonna be. Yup. Though, other physically he pass three weeks before I got drafted. But I, I was able to learn a lot of gyms from him. So, like, what give me one thing you learn from Eugene, if you don't mind, Jalen. One thing specifically off the off. The top of my head is. Understanding value over call meaning mcgeer accessible to. Funds and when you're deciding you're making businesses and we've making decisions in life on, on what you wanna purchase, and what you wanna do if just in life, you have to look at value versus the call. I got sometimes some sometimes the cost, maybe a little maybe a little more, but you gotta think about the value that you're getting out in vice versa. You know, and it is helps from a decision making standpoint. So that's, that's one of the big things that. I've learned from gene other mentors at all that you've taken something from that deserve mention here, Jalen anybody else. Yeah. Man. Michael Lido for sure out of Fort Wayne, Indiana and seal rice Wirtz, visors. He's, he's been in my life since I was about thirteen years old started as for training company in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Where we're all we're on the guys train on eight of UP sports, and really challenged me to think. In, in really just a to really understand the perspective of. Understanding my ego. Letting go of my ego, and not being aware of it, but not identifying. Yeah. Yeah. Those. Guys, there's a lot of there's a lot of people that I could business. But I think those. Couple of standup. Why be remiss if I didn't ask you, if there's something that you haven't learned from Jerry Jones during your time with the Cowboys because he certainly knows how to market himself in his team. I have seen a slow who can sell their shares. And I love him. I thank them, you know, for for taking the chance on b believing in me, you know, like I said, now, he's getting his, his return on investment. You know, he's gonna pay me some day as well. So I'm looking forward to that, you know, we build together, what do you envision Jalen Smith's post football life looking like being that you have so many varied business interests outside the sport of football that I'd love to hear what you envision your life looking. Like, once you get done playing the sport. You know, alongside of you know, having family and marrying my, you know, my, my now lady, you know, she would be c-. We'll be my wife one day beautiful outside of having that. I mean, honestly. An and also outside of buildings generational wealth. I wanna help. Athletes become entrepreneurs, I entreat themselves like in. So in just just a spread that spread it out up throughout the world. I said, it's my purpose beyond this is as Oscar Noor ship. And I wanna help close that gap with the ME. I. So it's, it's a wonderful thing that I'm looking forward to, to what's in store. I'm embracing the season. You know, you have to have that balance. And keeping the main thing, the main thing, so it's good will Jalen, I have full confidence that you do all that, and more. A we'll continue to track your career. We thank you for the time today. We congratulate you on all you've achieved and overcome so far and congratulate you on all that awaits you as well. Appreciate you guys take care. 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Aaron Hernandez Docuseries

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46:26 min | 1 year ago

Aaron Hernandez Docuseries

"Welcome to South Beach Sessions. I'm Dan Le Batard and we've been talking on the radio. Show quite a bit about Aaron Hernandez documentary on Netflix. Dan Wetzel is an extraordinary reporter. He's really good and he got close to all of the reporting around the Aaron Hernandez stuff and so they decided to make a docu series of four part. Look into everything that happened there and they did a very thorough job. One of the things that I wanted to talk to Dan Wetzel about is what he thinks is the reason. Aaron Hernandez was so flippant about murder but also as someone who appreciates the a documentary that lays out for the viewer. All the reasons a mystery might have happened without giving you any of the easy answers I also wanted to talk to izzy Gutierrez about Out How being gay might have affected Aaron Hernandez becoming a murder. Because I think it's a difficult leap to make and I wanted to get busy thoughts on on how it is that the film made it so before we get to izzy Gutierrez though. I'd like to start with Dan Wetzel again. An extraordinary reporter. I've respected him for a long time. Let's let's talk to Dan. And what got you into this project. I started covering this Matt. Convert Aaron a little bit Florida A- and a little more the patriot and but he was a football player then but when he became a suspect in the murder of Odin Lloyd the evidence when he was is finally arrested and the evidence came out. I began covering the case extensively from that point on for you know years of back and forth to lengthy trials a suicide of just a million twists and turns along the way Kevin Armstrong cover diseases saga for the new. Your Daily News and I talked about no matter how much we do on a daily basis. You can't explain the story and all of the tangents and all the characters characters and all of the issues and everything into it. I don't WanNa say the most interesting incredible because it sounds positive but but negative story in every single way. But it's the most fascinating and unlikely story I've ever covered because we just have never seen anything like this and nobody in the story fits into clean box. That you Kinda want where you just There's so many side stories and everything so along the way we just looked looking for ways to kind of tell the story and other manners and teamed up with production company Black Thin and producer and director. Jean McDermott out of New York and started working on this. Listen through a million. Hollywood twists and turns ended up with the NETFLIX DOCU series. It just came out which has been very well received because a lot of people are jarred by this Obviously and a lot of people are asking how and I didn't feel it got answered very well until recently what the Boston Globe did with that spotlight series. What what would you say is most responsible if you had to choose one? Obviously there are many reasons but everything that happened here because the film made me feel like it was his sexuality was the thing that he was camouflaging well. We didn't WanNa make a single conclusion. Because I don't think you can. I think it's a perfect cocktail of stuff. Tough to sit there and say it's one thing is discomfort with being who he is or the death of his father or an abusive childhood or or drug use or C. T. or being friends with Alexander Bradley. Or whatever else you come up with her never being told now as a star athlete you know. I really don't think it's any one thing there'd be there'd be responsible to say it's that because it could have been any other. Maybe you could pull one of those out in this whole equation regime change it but we tried to explain Aaron Hernandez not excuse Aaron Hernandez he made these choices he devastated these lives tried to play a lot of attention to the victims. And the fallout for what this guy did. But certainly I think the the sexuality because a lot of people know about it. Although it's been it out there for years and reported in many other places may have taken you know a pretty big jolt to it. But I don't know what the terms of the minutes or would would be but the film tried to present almost every angle we possibly could on on what made Aaron Hernandez unusual or you know into the situation. Do you think thank Aaron. Committed suicide because he was outed on w. e. v.. I you know I don't know And it's all I'll preface on that my opinion Beck suicide even the people that were talking to on a daily basis. That point as attorneys is his family. Were stunned that he committed suicide absolutely stunned. My opinion is that it was not that he was outed voted on. I believe he was planning that suicide all along after his second trial whether he was acquitted as he was found not guilty or Or found guilty if you look at the suicide It took a pretty good about a planning. It was well staged There was three suicide aside notes. It's not easy to kill yourself. In prison. He needed kyw bedspread over and over and over to have the strength to hold the guy this big he had to soak the floor. So it's feet. Wouldn't you know he would slip and wouldn't be able to stand up. He had cardboard jammed the door to keep guards out if they found him. There's all sorts of different things I don't think he pulls that off in forty eight hours in a panic. I think he had planned this thing out. That's just my opinion though one of the most difficult little things with Aaron Hernandez everybody with so many questions on why he lived the way he lived and why he died away. And I think that's part of the interest in his case Jason and the enduring frustration of everybody who whoever came in contact with your reporting shows. What as it relates to him trying to get his bonus money back from the Patriots because of the way the law is structured? If you commit suicide possible that he knew about this law called up Bateman that existed for a long having massive -Chusetts and the basic premises. If your case is on appeal and you died during the appeal you with us are not able to Participate in the appeal. And then you're you're not found not guilty but you're you're no longer guilty. You're just you know it doesn't really matter and I think when they wrote the Roy and it didn't seem very being full it's possible he knew about that. And that was one of his goals. He certainly mentioned In one of the suicide notes to To say your work you grow your quote. You're rich we don't necessarily know that he that was it also thought that was poorly planned out because or poorly poorly thought out first off the Patriots. Whatever amount of bonus money they may still owed him? We're going to fight paying that extensively. They're not just cutting a check to Aaron Hernandez even if they did civil suits against them by their own families the for Todd family that they bring your family And I and others would certainly wipe that money out. So I don't think it's daughter and they were going to get anything out of it but what actually happened was. There was such an uproar about the idea idea that Fernandez might be able to gain the system that the legislature in Massachusetts overturned. The law rewrote it and retroactively Made made it effective so that Aaron Hernandez was then once again became a convicted murderer. It didn't work whether he knew about that or not again. We just don't know it's certainly possible. And it's one of the things I wish I come on here and give you fifteen answers but it'd be disingenuous to do that. It seemed like Aaron Hernandez like the structure of prison that you guys seem to be indicating that he certainly did originally if you watch the film in the spring of two thousand thirteen When he kills Odin Lloyd? He's under enormous pressure. At that point he had been involved along with his friend. Alexander Bradley and Double Homicide and Boston in the summer of two thousand twelve. where either Aaron pulled the trigger or Alexander? Bradley pulled the trigger but they drove up on a car. Shot up the car. Dr Killed Two guys injured and other and took off. Aaron then had that car stash that cousin's house in Bristol Connecticut. Yeah the murder weapon stash that the house in Bristol Connecticut. So even if he wasn't the trigger man and that's why he was found not guilty. 'cause you just really didn't know which guy pulled the trigger He certainly was involved so he had reason to fear getting caught for that then the following he plays an entire season in the NFL and that offseason Alexander Bradley or down in Florida Alexander Bradley get shot in the face. Brab says it was Fernandez. Who Shot Him and Addison? There's another guy it's Kinda Hernandez theme team is. It's always somebody else. Who did the shooting that I happen to be around either way? He s feared of being caught for shooting Alexander Bradley in the face which also descript script Alexander Bradley the gun and Drug Kingpin according to prosecutors. He's a guy he later shot up a tire Bar Hartford Connecticut. The kids like fired. Eleven shops in there. Because they'll fight he is telling Erin I am going to kill you. I am going to hunt you down. I have all these guys. Is We have all these weapons. You're going to die or you're going to pay me a ton of money. Aaron has reason to fear that coming out and ending his career but mostly he fears Alexander Bradley killing him so in those final days of his freedom. He's running around and with two bodyguards. Guns he is self medicating with all sorts of Drugs and basically acting like a guy who thinks he's GonNa get killed any day and have great fear so think when he actually kills Odin. Lloyd which I think was out of that paranoia. We don't know why but he kills them and gets arrested. There's almost a sense of relief like myself. At least no one's going to murder me in here and he adjusted incredibly well to jail life in prison life that stunned corrections officers because they said look you get a guy in there any guy let alone someone from from the background and you know not a career criminals or at least not known and you put them in a cell and they will crack. They'll get suicidal. They will be screaming doors crying yelling. They don't belong here Erin just sort of settled in and we have those jailhouse calls. I'm calling his cell cozy and feeling very very very at home. Aaron didn't do that. I think part of that that time was just the relief of. I'm not going to get shot and killed today. I think the the enormous pressure that he was under sure that all all from his own doing mind you but the enormous pressure he was under in the spring of two thousand thirteen Jail at that point seemed like a safe tabin. Can you explain to the audience. You mentioned his cousin. Tanya Singleton can you explain to the audience the lengths of her loyalty and then answer the question. Listen to why she was that loyal. She was older than Aaron. But not a ton of Takeda older. I'd I'd have to look that up but choose an older cousin who When when Aaron was sixteen his father passed away and his mother began seeing Tanya singleton husband in? He moved into Errands House and it was obviously traumatic. Time for for anybody with your father passed away and now there's a new guy in the house and that happens to be your beloved cousin's husband so there's a lot of trauma and that he started hanging out with tiny singleton at sixteen. It's a very permissive place to hang out not the place you want any sixteen year. Old boy you know suddenly not having a father to hang out so they grow very close when and they when Alexander Bradley and Eric Hernandez Urnov evolved the double homicide they take the murder car and the murder weapon and they put it look Araj of Tanya Singleton's house at Bristol Connecticut. She is willing to how. How is this car for up to a basically a year before it gets discover Goanese involved in the killing of Odin Lloyd about a year later the his two accomplices earnest Wallace and Carlos Ortiz both go directly to her house in Bristol? Connecticut these murders are all up in Massachusetts. A couple of hours away She ends up deriving Ernest Wallace to Atlanta. And they're buying a bus ticket to. I think Miami talks at another point to try to get Carlos. Ortiz appears to be able to go to a Puerto Rico or somewhere else and get away shop is money to both of them so she was complicit and covering up accessory after the fact that type of stuff on basically three different murders and she was willing to do that for Aaron now when the police came and said look this car. We've been looking for a double murder in Boston in your garage. Your cousin is the prime suspect. What say you? She refused to talk walk. They hit her with a contempt charge. She was willing to go to jail. She had two young children two young boys and had breast cancer and basically her cancer treatment had discontinue and they say it had disastrous effects on that and she essentially dies in parts gets out of jail later. Let her out but she passes away so. This is incredible loyalty that Tanya singleton offered Aaron and I think that you've watched it like the amount of the mountain. The story is about loyalty and disloyalty or portrayal is remarkable. Because there's nothing admirable about that behavior in any way but I think you can look at and go out is that is a loyalty to hold. None of them seemed very bright cousin. Seemed like she was his mother and errands. Mothers seemed completely awful so it seemed like the only place that Aaron Hernandez got something that to him. Felt like love was from this woman. I think. That's that's a fairly reasonable Look at it like this is the unconditional love of a mother. Although I don't know a mother should should be covering up Multiple murders. But you know if you think about He's basically forced out of his house when you know. Obviously he could've stayed at the house. Almost becomes untenable. After his dad passes away it was already a a difficult time. We had a terrific older brother Dj but he was off at college at that point at the University University of Connecticut playing football and Erin was kind of cast out into the open. And so yeah I think he found a community in the love and support at Tanya Singleton's Singleton House. Although that house was nowhere where you want a sixteen year old hanging out. Why did errands Fiance Shana Jenkins choose. Aaron over her own on sister sister was dating. Odin Lloyd Odin. Lloyd was killed by Aaron Hernandez. Why did she choose? Aaron who knows for sure Like I said it's loyalty and betrayal. So here's Shea on a Jenkins who exhibits incredible loyalty again. Aaron Hernandez man does he has a way of getting people to be You know extremely loyal against their best interests to him and she is willing to. He's not only not turn on errand when it's suspicious you know this is completely suspicious or questioning him Even though it's her own sister's boyfriend that has been murdered You know she is suspected by the prosecution of of taking the murder weapon out of Odin unlike murder weapon out of their house. Box throwing it in a dumpster which she conveniently can't remember what's what what dumpster she sent it to or you know there. There was this box. He just text her in today's box. Downstairs go get it. Dispose of it. you know I don't anyone is in a relationship. Imagine texting extend your wife or your girlfriend and saying hey just go move that box in the basement and go put it in the dumpster somewhere and she immediately does it. Never ask what's in it or where it went you know. Oh it just not very plausible. she did all of that and stuck with him to the bitter bitter end. Even after you know bother weather showing up at second trial anything. She was going to stay with them and do that. You know intern and doing that. She betrays her her sister who was up in Boston attending law school. And that you know dating Odin Lloyd who by all accounts you know really happy go. Lucky guy. Someone everyone liked and didn't have an enemy in the world and You know was was the innocent victim. Here she turns her back on that and never never go back to it And so you know why I don't know my guess again. Just my gases that she had this sort of dream life going and I think she just didn't want to believe it wasn't real and that Aaron was what she hoped you would be or it continue or all of that but Everett was she She chose Aaron over sister and That's a that's a tough one Top One to understand that for most people for the record we can dismiss this now. Okay you are someone. Who is factually reporting this stuff out so anything I'm asking you to do? In the way of opinion I will ask the audience to understand that. You don't want to give your opinions on this but your expertise is thorough. You have you have been deeply Lee embedded in this story and so it's informed by a great deal and so I ask you Errands mother when you saw how the Docu series played out and you you saw his mother depicted what were the things are. What was the thing that made you wince about her because she seemed pretty terrible? Well I think the key to to to this docu series is is the jailhouse calls which You know as we worked on it became released publicly from the from the jail. So you you have Aaron now talking freely and candidly to people and then prior to ask you. You never had errands voice. You never talked you. Never testified. Couldn't interview them anything so it was a little bit of an unknown quantity. All you had other people talking about him and that's similar with Terry Hernandez Mother As these calls come out you now here this there's more raw. This is more personal. This is more telling than any interview could do because no one would sit down and talk like this an interesting so you have Aaron. and his mother arguing over things You know talking about how she was terrible mother growing up and how you screwed up my life and why did you. I think I'd be a perfect angel on her. Yelling back is point where she she complains that he didn't just give her a million dollars but she needed and he's in jail and and all the different things I think there were numerous of those conversations that made you wince and almost I don't know it's it's almost uncomfortable hearing such a personal and raw argument between the two but it certainly opened up the whole idea that there was significant trauma. The right word but significant difficulties between Aaron and his mother there were unresolved and play a serious role in his development or the lack of development. So I think they're very telling but I mean I think the part where she's asking for the million bucks might be the most uncomfortable but when they're when Aaron is unloading on her about How could never trust her how we could never talk to her? And he's basically saying you don't know me I'd love to tell you things and you don't you're GonNa GonNa die not knowing your own son You know with everything we know about Aaron Hernandez it's it's it's some pretty amazing stuff here. I know there's no easy answer to this a stand but what one reason among all of the reasons that you're trying to use to explain the inexplicable would you say is responsible for why it is that Aaron Hernandez Hernandez was flippant about killing people. You certainly laid out all of the theories right down to see Thi e you lay them all out we tried. We tried to do everything you know as much as you can in three hours And then try to provide some kind of substance by them to not just all we had. CT well this is what he is. And this is what it can do. And the backstory on different people and all of that have you heard much criticism of the Docu series like. What's the fairest criticism of because it's been very popular? I don't know I mean there hasn't been much I mean it's been it has been very popular. Is it fair to use the phone call. The people don't know they're gonNA they're gonNA BE DOCU series. Well Yeah you're on the jailhouse call call. They say we're recording the call so the third of the victims they have this account out there. I certainly can understand that sentiment. That's sort of the news business. I don't really brushoff Shaw almost any any criticism as it doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to act on it or anything. It was very thorough. The job you did was very thorough. I don't know that a quiet hard. I guess that's I feel oh comfortable because we tried hard and this wasn't one of these things where 'cause there there's other stories we didn't come in at the end and just try to sum it all up real quick like we tried to talk to everybody. We spent months covering these trials you know. Kevin Armstrong spending ten days in front of his house. The beginning I mean both covered both trials and you try to find out as much as you possibly can and tell the story gusts as you possibly can and you give it your best shot and and so usually as long as you try I. I know you've worked on some incredible stories through the years. I mean I generally feel. Don't you think when you when you've you've done it and you go. This is what we got. Yeah could I. Could we done this. Sure but what we did. I just thought that it was covered very poorly nationally when the story broke a note was being covered well in Boston certainly gently better in Boston. But as you said in our lifetime Dan there hasn't been a story like this in In our lifetime. There's not ever been something. This kind kind of inexplicable now. I mentioned in the series you know talk about O.. J. And OJ opposite incredibly influential story and a bigger her story than Aaron Hernandez but the actual crime was The