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Part 2: Johnny D, Jon White

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Part 2: Johnny D, Jon White

"Johnny Good Morning Warning. TV Birds almost you know they played well. They've played well. I essentially I was very happy with how they played They're getting on defense. I can vary played. Well offensively we they were strapped because they had They've they've lost all their offense to punch other than earth and that's pretty obvious. Two two teams are playing and listening to additional running back so never hamstrung. And when you're when you're missing starters things just are are a little bit more rocky. No you have to cut back playbook a little bit. You can't do the things change you'd like to do. They ended up losing In addition they lost a two tackles during the game. One early in one way You know so. They're really banged up on offense and but you know A family member was texting with me during the game and was criticizing Carson Wentz and he's he's been Carson Wentz critic for a long time and I just I finally I said look I can't I can't touch. Let's with you any more just so wrong that you can't kill even you know I can't. I'm not getting old this anymore because you're so wrong it's the discussion you're wet. You're out way out there so If you think about some of the games this year and the drop pass is in critical situations. Could've you could add last night. The mets no sooner had my relatives techniques that went in the final drive at this to open receivers that he threw that beautiful. Pass the end zone that hit. I believe it was out for yes. Angela in the hands not catching he was kind of catch. Yes the kind of catch these guys make make all day long. I watch I watch football all day. Long you know should have been made and it makes take of the of the I guess this tweet certain went around the country The man who raised burning building and they were throwing babies out of the building children out of the Dalton and the guy said we galar. We were catching them. It's one of the funniest yes actually. I don't know did he ever did they ever get him to the game actually was I was actually supposed to come to the next. Yeah it's supposed to come to the jets. Got Him tickets and everything. Yeah so So you know people say well like I love the people who who who comment on you and I or semi Three messages or twitter messages. Or whatever and say you know. Let's all racing show. What do you talk about football? Four four and it's it's not just a racist show. This is more than just the racing show. We're in we're sports fans. We'd like all sports and will you and I happen to share a love for the Eagles and so it it makes our conversations very natural and The things we're talking about our everyone feels that pain when their when their team loses and they understand what we're talking about so you know I do enjoy enjoy hearing from people who say they look forward to our discussions whether we're crying and whining or or cheering and voting. You know it's it's what America does in the fall slash winter especially in the east and and whereas And if you don't believe that try try planning something other than a super bowl party on the final on the first weekend. There you go cam- many people show up so you know same way anyways I I was. I was happy with the way they play. They're they're a little bit behind the eight ball but you know what this. NFL season is so long and so- ruling things change in a hurry. And I you know. They're behind the cowboys behind. Eight ball really as far as catching the cowboys but he goes pop border schedule. They've got Seattle this week. which would be a tough game? But after that they're in good shape and that's not true the cowboys this cowboys have a tougher schedule. So I don't know that they'll go much further and winning the division but you never know you no no well while we're on the topic and and you know we can incorporate sports into this too. It was during. It was during the game in yesterday that I subscribe to the choir and a choir send out the alert that billlion had passed away at eighty one and suffering from Alzheimer's and has beloved a sports columnist as there was in any a major American city. The last forty fifty years and the guy who was really a us a special read He you know he made any topic engaging and really did he confronted. He confronted the Alzheimer's with great courage and Grace and Philadelphia. This morning undoubtedly we just feting billlion. Citywide I have to agree with you. Stevie just you know Bill Murray is my sorry Tim. Murray my favorite sports writer but Bill Lyon I was Familiar sports writer. You know because he wrote about Philadelphia sports for so many years and He was I was such a crisp lighter Not Flowering Very I don't know how else miscavige said. He wasn't flowery he got to the point point and he was checking at humor and he was very personally he. He liked to bring the story to a personal level and and you liked both with his subjects with himself And his his book Deadlines and overtimes overtimes collected writings on sports in life. You know it's just great sports writing and because it's about Philadelphia Sports. It means so much more more to me because I spent you know this. This is my home and And the things he was writing about. I you know I'd suffered through or you know or celebrate within At times you know and his battle with Alzheimer's was unique in that. When he got the diagnosis he decided he was gonNA write about it? And you know the Alzheimer's if you read these columns which you can get him on You can access many of them on inquire DOT COM I mean if you Google built Y and Alzheimer's what whatever now if any if we know if you know anyone or in your family I do who had Alzheimer's It it's such an insidious terrible horrible disease And hearing was you know he talked rb. Jackie wrote about his diagnosis. About hearing your words and about his reaction to I mean I I read you this going in in the winter of twenty thirteen February cold deep the cold both the I sat one of those cramps and stole little examined cubicles goals independent memory center and listen to the man in the white lab coat asking fine. New Alzheimer's was set by inches. I said and you have it. He said I'm pretty sure. The world stopped at that moment and then there was a warning. Sound like a freight train barreling through my blame. I sat there frozen. I remember thinking What a crummy job is guy? Got So me and from this point. This was his first column on Alzheimer's he called it out. He gave it a name and I guess you've had it for three years years before he was finally diagnosed with it. And you know the the columns continued the loss of his wife and being in any Nursing Home finally and and you know he talks about it for thirty. She said four thirty for meals. He said he'll keep better watch out because they come running. He said those those wrinkly those wrinkly time woman said they may look harmless Sharpeville. The only talks about that talks about being nursing home and how that was always present and but they talked about because there was an empty chair table for dinner and he knew I was calling So yes he was a sportswriter but understood that I'm trying to think of the line. Where one of his great wines sports I can't remember exactly what from but I remember it. It's related to him either. Oh he either hits his disciple of has learned is from or he fought is specifically said this who was who is the sidebar. His men he mentored people in Sports is everything and sports. Porch is nothing and that really is true. I mean you know in my light. Exports has been everything Whether it was going out to play when I was this you know a kid in the street. Sports kept me out of trouble. Sports kept me occupied. Sports gave me self-esteem Places introduce me to people a AH expanded my arrive. Let me escape Tough spots sports was everything to me and then later on in life sports again was my light horse race while people don't WanNA argue. Yeah well the gambling games their business industry but it's a sport. It is a sport. And if you don't believe that thoroughbreds are athletes. We've got an you've got some missing parts coming in from Detroit. He's our greatest athletes in the world So sports has. It's always been everything me and yet they are times like you. Now I win for heart procedure on Lindsey last week. I think it was Wednesay the day's Kinda ran together there for a while. Walk and you know before you go. In it was minor. It was not minor thing for them. It was minor but for me not minor you know like I said I'd like to say it's a long way from my heart. It Ain't it is my work so you know When you when you are in that position or family members ill he realized sports? There's nothing like family love at a grandchild. My God not one experience. This has been which you will. You will get to experience in the near future unbelievable And I cannot describe describe it all. The words in my pocket are meaningless. I can't describe the feeling anyway. Those those are important. Sports isn't important but but the rest of the time and sports are everything. So don't lie in Rate Sports writer but person and human you know and you wouldn't think that calling someone human is a great compliment. I I gotTa tell you the word human meaning not just that you're a human being in which we all obviously are but they're here to Maine is really important. It's a good quality to have its Anyway Bill hadn't written for a while obviously but He did a great the job. CHRONICLING HIS BATTLE WITH WITH AL and and You know we're we're role GONNA face these issues and by reading by someone sharing and not just someone but someone you've known you feel like he's known for thirty years you know We feel like you re read this this this person's thoughts every week every you know twice a week or whatever over I feel like you know them. So here's this person sharing his most intimate experiences and hopefully he did it because hopefully it would help other people and helping other the people we need a little more and of sermon sulfur nicely. Exactly exactly I'm GonNa send when a link the there's there's a page the both the enquirer and the pen memory center have have featured with all the comms but I also want Aside from you know his his writing about Alzheimer's Emmer he was he was nominated six times for Pulitzer's sex and So you need to read. You need to read his sports writing and You know he he is yet another the the office top of my head. I'm not gonNA think of them immediately. But there there's a there's a pretty good tradition of mid Westerners coming to major metropolitan areas and they and acerbic communities like like Philadelphia and and being just perfect. Then just having the right tone and if you if you and I started reading him you to literally when I was at probably it was probably maybe it was. The eighty has got to be the early eighties. I I believe I believe that's when he started and you know along with didn't with the rate didn't juror and and you know so many They the acquires had and the Daily News had just a tremendous parade of of top level. You can't it's funny Philadelphia's he's not a place where a guy is gonna come in and fake it. The you'll last about ten minutes. So yeah he build the line Just GonNa be. He's just being lionized appropriately. Today give give you want you know if if you can buy his book. It's really good reading election. Yeah it's not all about Philadelphia. Sports he what about sports to his this a paragraph from a column you wrote in Nineteen Eighty one It's called fat chance and Paradise State Live Paradise Island silence bombers Paradise Island Bahamas to describe Muhammad Ali as merely fat and forty is not totally accurate. He will not after all forty until next month as uh-huh for the way well he tries to camouflage that with Volpi loose-fitting sweatsuits. They must have come off rack of the nearest maternity shop. Eh He is not here. Here's one is actually a couple of air about horse racing. I don't know if you do. I mean it's okay to do this of course by the book we should tell. I'm going to send a link. The the book is called deadlines and over time and It's out of this world. Okay here's a smarty Jones. which background obviously? He was the Philadelphia products. What's he was? He was our horse. He was this city horse and ten thousand people turned out to watch him Gallup one morning at at Philadelphia Park which is now parked So this is the column about Belmont stakes at the top of the stretch. He was in front by four lengths. And you assure the triple crown was his after all. He had never ever allowed another horse to pass him. This fierce and invaluable little tiger but on this day they had pack count all the way around the track jackals nipping at wounded prey pressuring wrestling and pestering. They had impressed from the inside and from the outside they had forced him free wide early and they had never permitted him to settle the comfortable rhythm every breath. Every stride was contested. Still he would hang on wouldn't he. He would run as duck down and he would win anyway. Wouldn't he racing. God wouldn't be this cruel would fifty yards from the finish. The late running bird stone. The thirty six one shot who had hidden in the shadows. The unthinkable he overtook Smarty Jones serves passing with powerful round. Go pinstripes he won the Belmont stakes. He left the splinters of shattered dreams scattered all over Belmont Park Mark. He ruined the Smart Party. I mean that is that's that's perfection perfection perfection and I guess as a writer as someone who's who's written a weekly racing column for the last twenty five years roughly awfully. That's some good writing. That's really good right. And that was that was his his skill as you said six times You're not nominated for those so those kinds of honors unless you have some what okay. What are the kids say? Mad Skill got mad skills. Yeah Yep now I'm glad I'm glad We had the opportunity in such proximity To talk about them and with somebody you know I mean I could reach reach Tim Sullivan from the globe. And I'm sure sure Laden to Irish Tim I mean any any of those if knack were alive I mean anybody at the highest level. He it was one of the one of the guys that that other. You know top sports writers. If you if you if you took a survey you know who do you. Yeah Yeah who who. WHO's writing? And you mentioned Jim. Murray Murray obviously and you had to say what you you going out to California you that was uh. That was fortuitous. Two large degree. I mean you got you got Got Plenty of Jim. Murray sorry I end up dead now go ahead. One of one of my favorite memories in racing people You know ask you. What your forty one of my favorite memories that was wet beyond the years publicity guy at Santa Anita and and I was I was recruited to Pick up Jim Murray. Because he couldn't see was going blind. The pickup Jim Murray and to drive him the meat Lafitte ties for lunch. And so I had lunch with Laffite. kyw and Jim Murray. Because there's around the Santa Senator. What around the big cap and Zimmer was writing a column about the big gotten from the La Times and for me as a young some fan you know okay? I was starting to work but I I was in love to be sitting there with my favorite sports writers since since high school and married syndicated so I got the rhythm once in a while in Philly tapers and then when I got California you know twice twice a week or three times a week. Whatever it was So there I was with my favorite sports writer and one of the greatest jockey of all time. And one of the classiest guys around and here I was this kid you know especially out of college I couldn't believe my good fortune. Of course after a drop your Mary off I was an unfamiliar area and I ended up being in the wrong way and one of those diamond lane things getting on the freeway and I got a ticket but yes yes. That's that's one of my great one of my favorite memories. I was probably nineteen. Eighty one Yeah I was I was. I was a colgate and one of the great pleasures for those that. There's is a certain group of people listening. That'll that'll will not understand this at all. One of the great pleasures was the library and one of the reasons. I wasn't a great student. A colgate aside from the you know the extracurricular activities I was involved in the colgate Maroon and the radio broadcasting testing. And all that and the decals you'd go to the library and by the periodical section of the periodical room. There's newspapers from across the country and growing up like basically in Hartford outside of Hartford. You'd get you know the current the current had had had be Smith very good but but certain syndicated columnists like you're referring and Murray course one of them but you'd also occasionally get wind of you know other you you'd come across other sports writers from around the country and I just can remember getting to college and being even though I could go to a library certainly as a kid at Manchester every day but would you go to go to the library and be able to read local papers from around the country and you end up. You know having the opportunity to read read people that were up and coming Lupu as it happens I was writing for the daily dispatch Lucas from Oneida and so there was Luca. POLKA was early on in his in his career. But you come across all different writers and I can just remember particularly Johny and the the Eagles Championship season in eighty. One of my favorite things was the Monday. Paper would probably probably arrived Wednesday at colgate. And you know being in the library you know to read the enquirer sports section and read all the coverage. Because you just you know it. It's forty years ago but it feels like it was a hundred might as well have been one hundred years ago Because you couldn't you couldn't do what you do now. I mean where where you're you can read every newspaper in the country you know on a daily basis. It was a big deal all and being able to read lion and didn't jer and you know all the coverage in all those secondary stories of you know in the breakdowns and everything. The thing I mean that was I've got in fact I've got A. I've got a scrapbook of the nineteen eighty of the season. I assembled of of clippings great sports writing. I really do. Yeah well every year and you you know you you get those books You know those compiled the best. The Best of the year sports add grew up with that as well. And you know a lot of those guys you got to remember the punt passing Kick Library. Did you get those books. I don't remember their little. Their little. This is in the sixties and early Seventies. And when I was the ten to fourteen there was a series of books. I have them I. I rescued them out of our house. And it's like great quarterbacks of the NFL great running backs of the NFL. Great and yes I do remember. Maputo's yeah the right there like seven inches by five inches little hardcovers and and those you know those books were invariably you know the the chapters were invariably written by sportswriters and that was another way you got fill them with pictures by ZANDER Hollander. Every every every sport I I every sports photograph we ever saw as a kid zander. Hollander took and they were all grady. Remember they were there they they all had a certain Sepia tone to the great call. You as you know. It's funny 'cause this weekend. I was kind of recovering from from the procedure. And I I said well I didn't I didn't I didn't watch a lot of racing. Didn't play a lot This weekend and getting getting tired you know. Just a wasn't able to concentrate trait and not that it makes much difference whether on calcite or not but it was making it difficult and so I thought to myself well. Gee I'M GONNA BE I'M GONNA BE UNPREPARED FOR Steve Show on Monday not GonNa have of anything to talk about Civil probably talk about eagles a little bit but didn't didn't follow much racing this weekend so I'll be unprepared command. I said well that's not unlike. Most of the regular wasn't worried at all. Jeff Jeff. Well you got you got you also got me very advantageous. I think we're both I. It's an advantageous ages moment. The I got this birthday coming up this week and so I'm you know. I'm in the reflective. You got me in a reflective boot anyway. Yeah well I'll tell you it's someone who has moved out of reflective mood someone someone cash and this just shows you know you often talk about you try and give Get up a message to all raise. A lot of different racetracks racetrack's Remington Park for sample someone at expressed bet and expressed my player scored on a pick six at Remington Park. This weekend this week. twenty cents right the returns. Seventy one thousand almost seventy two thousand dollars and the tech. It costs the total bet. One hundred thirty four forty so it can happen. Here's the Akwa Dog. Six Five on the sixteen. What was that Friday Saturday? Fifty Cent Wager Obviously Asleep one hundred and twenty dollars total bet twenty seven thousand We had a couple of those one ticket was a was a five hundred twenty five dollars ticket. Well we had a one twenty and five twenty five and then we had a a Remington pick. Four Fifty cent tickets for you hundred and fifteen dollars. Nineteen thousand almost almost twenty thousand dollars. So Ah I mean I imagine these things because I find them interesting. I liked to see when small wagers fast big or relatively small wagers look. I'm not going to get a kid myself. One hundred thirty four dollars for a picture that fits that's a stat but I mean it's a good step from for regular player. We don't have that kind of money to throw around one hundred twenty dollars for a six five. I'M NOT GONNA act like it's a drop in the bucket but it's it's not outlandish outlandish to to bring home that Kinda cash so it's just like the mention those when they come up there was a was was it a twelve horse Partly she an appropriate twelve team Parlay card That that we that we saw on twitter and they've hit eleven the twelve and they were down to the last game and was the game last night The he was The the raiders. Yesterday afternoon the Rangers Mine is ten and a half so it was twenty dollar twelve teams Parlay Card College and pro. And they're going to win. We're going to get back. Fifty thousand dollars and the raiders. Like you know it's like it was a horrible beat it was like the worst. Be you're they had the ball on the I can go on the one yard line. They need a touchdown. And then Richie Incognito Incognito messes messes up and and they don't they don't end up scoring and and that's the end of the end of the wager so that's a tough way to go and then and then someone mentioned well. Here's the rundown false start one one yard run and then complete pass a one yard run twenty yard field goal seventeen ten and the final points of the game. They went eleven for twelve and now someone said well. You know you're supposed to save. You're supposed to come away with some money from the effort and and you know what that's great advice and I haven't studied it but but I've been in this position before. Here's the problem. The person played a twenty dollars to twelve. Right it's it's not like it's not just mack unlimited supply of money. So if you're trying to save on fifty desalvo first of all you're limited by how much you can get your in your town. How much can you wager then on the other team? You know you let your cat count limits if you're doing it online or at book wherever you're count limits are going to be small then then how much cash can get your hands on. The you know the middle of the four o'clock game you've got to come up with this money before the four o'clock gang starr between between knowing that you won the early games and sometimes there's just a few minutes so you've got to have your hands on of cash. Now question is where are you going to get all that cash down. You can't just walk into a book and say you know here's ten grand now if you live in Vegas different story but if you're you know somewhere else it's hard so yeah you're supposed to save yes you can head you bet. Yes on paper but in real life you can't do any of those things Cases where just to give you a horse race example. I've had occasions where you're alive to you. Know five or six horses in in a pick five or six for You Know Twenty thirty thousand and a couple of them are paying more and you're thinking well on a save leave but there's only so much you can deposit in your account unlimited you know you can't deposit twenty thousand dollars since they're not accepting deposit. Thank cost you know so of paper Yes. It looks a lot easier than it is Bottomline feel terrible for that person. I saw I I I guess it was. That must've been that play that I saw that talked about the procedure call. Yeah well I'll tell you it if we want to we if we do want to spend a couple of minutes talking about horses is it to the top of the hour the series how about the series of prices at Churchill. You've had in the last four days Friday. You had a sequence that that produced pick five carryover into Saturday then then you had a you know no. It's a tricky sequence that they close to four thousand and then yesterday another series of of impossible prices prices and going into going into Wednesday. In fact. I've got it here because I already printed the PP's out We've got one hundred twenty thousand thousand dollar pick five carryover on Wednesday Churchill with a sequence of twelve by ten by eight by twelve ten and there's also a high five five carryover if you're if you like high-fives eleven thousand dollar carryover in the in the nightcap on Wednesday but obviously one hundred and twenty thousand dollars pick five on Wednesday Ahah Churchill is going to get a lot of focus and You know we could also Tony Tony. We could also I just got a text from my partner. Tony Johnny. We also talk about what happened in the stomach. Five on on Friday where it ended up being an eleven thousand thousand dollar. Pay Off and I I want to thank Brian. NATO for the handicapping we did. Brian was right. The weather weather moved in at Miami Gardens and ended up taking the turf races off at the GP. W There was there was that twenty dollars horse at Laurel and the cue. That sort of you know made things tricky rickie but Nice Pretty Nice wide eleven thousand two hundred ninety one dollars thirty seven winners on Friday so the pick five carryover concept really is an opportunity that you have to. You GotTa look at funny. You should say that I I told you I didn't do much anti capitalist weekend or played one place that I did make is I dove into that Late pick five Churchill on Saturday because it was a good opportunity in You know you get these carryovers in the pick like five and for fifty cents you can play the game with with fight money and maybe walking in and and score. I didn't An I'm pretty sure a handicapped caffeine was not at its best but I don't get shot and I I I was a little indisposed on Friday. I couldn't I couldn't have jumped up for that but We we had four players. I express that Nail the strong five and the tickets were from Su fifty two to five seventy six and Levin thousands the one thousand dollars payoff met as you mentioned so Excuse me these carriers Don't seem to be getting ready to give those away I would think right. I mean the close of the ones that the meat closer soon or yeah. Yeah so they the about not ready to give it away. And they're bob around nine hundred thousand but anyway these pick five carryovers You really have to almost half the play. Take a shot And and by the way I just want to say this to While I was a little bit knocked knocked out this week I was able to look you know I wanted to play. I just couldn't couldn't get there But I have been so impressed impressed with the quality of racing the field side and I it's just been good racing the turf academic we. Fortunately we've had a you know dry weather least and They've been able to run on the surface. been it's been been good raising Churchill's been awesome and Now del Mar.. We'll get into. They're a a big part of their season. which is professional they had so i? Yeah I've really been impressed with with the racing this this fall You know at the end of kind of the end of Saratoga del Mar you kinda take a breath and You know go back to Belmont and Kinda just get kids are back to school or whatever you've got gone in your life kind of re revamps you get home to stop your summer. Whatever you're doing in the summer you kind of get back to back in this in the in the strategy do things and then the Breeders Cup comes and hits you pretty quickly after that and I always Kinda Vision Breeders Cup at the end of the season? But it's not and I have to stop thinking that way because we've got some more racing less than it's been it's been really good racing very much. Football starts and that and that not a lot of people off striking bit him. If you're if sure sports better got college and Pro Football you've got college basketball is now rolling you know. There are other distractions but has been phenomenal. And it's I mean I I don't have to go back and look at at some charts from from last November but I just do not not recall that we had this outlandish amount of a big feels. Dell's not and you know you mentioned the quality johnny it. It isn't as if these are. You know these are fields of of sixty two five non winners A to lifetime. I mean the there's open up that Churchill Card and the last six races our maiden special weights and allowances and in New York. The fifth through the ninth is is is the same thing maiden specials specials and allowances state bread allowances and then typically a maiden maiden forty state breads has been the NIGHTCAP. You know for the most part and including including including Minnie mouse when he wants them. So I got no complaints but Del Mar too. I mean th th as much trouble as as they're in in terms of horse population. They're doing the best they can. I think some people are interpreting this cancelation for Thursday. As as you know as much an opportunity to you know make sure you have a nice Friday Saturday Sunday Sunday. The Senate races by scuttling the Thursday card but apparently the apparently the weather is going to roll in there Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. So they're being you know the the the most familiar term lately is abundance of caution that that's the that's the new watchword watchword it's been good on so many levels no and as a horse player You're grateful because you know. How many times do you be purchased the racing for you get you know? Do you get your sheets. You get whatever you need your and you do all the work and then what alone they come off the turf but how. `Bout they cancel. Yeah he's done all the work you spent the money and they cancelled. Look it's better for everybody. Just cancel if you know the only thing is you only fly in the ointment is. You're relying on the weather man. It's like trying to pick winners spread you know. Yeah but I can also say this having lived in California Southern California for thirty years so storms. They see them coming. And it's not like these. It's it's not like living in the east where sometimes it pushes a little bit away. Usually goes storms are so huge that they just they just swallow California and at the Big Swan. That's a big Gulp. Well we we used to live now to we've got to we've got the Thanksgiving's late Thanksgiving is this is the twenty eighth which is as late. I believe as it ever can possibly get. Yeah Thursday again. I noticed that Go because Nova whenever whenever November starts on a Friday you get this you you get the late Thanksgiving So we still have got. They have got another full week before we even you know even really get to some of the big cards and in New York. They've pushed that Cigar Mile Day back to the eighth and I'm going to be outed Los Al which I'm now starting to get really excited about Baffert And and others and and Blaine right is running and no door. We just heard him. Confirm that so The starlet is always good. So if you turdy. Eighty starlet day at at low sow and still plenty to look forward to will be on the on. The scene is right yes I will be there. I've come to love that. I've come come to really enjoy that. The trip down to Cyprus track yet is YEP it helped out a great deal on the phone in California Calendar when things got tough will meet us. was there now and you know what else is there. Johnny the Cappella Degli Wonka loved the Catella. Johnny glad you're feeling okay and I appreciated everything you I called it a meandering today Just on twitter just now so I appreciate I appreciate are are are ECLECTIC Tour Four. Yeah well in a few days somebody asked me. When will you be back to normal? I I never was that that that'd be to start to start on the front end I love it. Well feel better and Exciting I love those cutback That was one race they did look at. I thought she ran great. She is Game Dick Tracy as they say and she just she. She does one speed that that philly she she just wants to go There was a comment over the summer. And I I don't even even I don't even think of Mike. Welsh realized you know it was. It was our horse but there was a comment. I saved it actually. Actually on my computer he said this Philly only knows one way to go got to admire the plock something like that. You know that. Yes she just. She doesn't. She's not obviously not a run off because she's actually slow into stride. You can't you can't really demand that she go early. She breaks okay but then she wants to settle. She doesn't she. You're not gonNA rush her into contention and then when she when she knows that the the Q. is coming she will engage and I thought Benji spending your Nandes. I wasn't happy happy with how we wrote kid chocolate last week but He writes he writes Carlisle. Bell the terrific. He's got a lot of confidence in her and she wasn't wasn't GonNa get through the winter but nothing wrong with second in a in a an allowance race. Those are pretty nice interest. That's for sure we'll take a break guy. John White coming and more stay with us our three at the races at the races. WHO's with Steve Bishop on Sirius? XM radio what's going on. Mike and I'm GonNa tell you about an offer for my good friends at express. Let's be honest. We know you love playing the racist but you can't always make it to the track. Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good bet. What if I told you about a place where you're never miss it and you start with house money it's am crazy right now? Not Expect your first one hundred and twenty five bucks are on on them. SIGN UP AND EXPRESS DOT COM. Who's in Promo Code? BIC THAT'S B. Y. K.. 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Part 1: Shug Mc Gaughey

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Part 1: Shug Mc Gaughey

"Very good Thursday race fans serious to nineteen. Xm To a one sport so night sixty four if you're listening to Siriusxm online and at our website to Steve Vic dot com a little little unpleasant wasn't here in New York. They're leaving the races on the turf for now downstate but there's no guarantee that it it stays this way or that way down there and there's a there's a chance of Sabur some more weather so I don't know don't don't count on the the late portion portion of the card in particular right here pretty excited about Saturday already and tomorrow to Keenan's opening and spend the spend spend a portion of the morning looking at that card tomorrow including those maiden races where there's some some notable stuff there's there's some quirky pedigrees in and potential prices that I think could work their way in so it's always on the lookout for that right and then of course the two major stake races and in fact we'll we'll get some insight on the also by a little bit because should we is gonNA join us after the first break and I reached out to show yesterday when Dave Greg came out with the news that code of honor was going to participate in the breeders this Cup classic and it's for those that are are trying to reduce the classic to you know to to a glorified allowance race I this this should put some spurs to the the the the discussion and his participation kind of ratchets things up a little bit. Doesn't it kind of raises the stakes a lot of ways so I wanted to. I reached out to shook late in the show when when when Dave Dave came out with the news and they got back to me after we got off the air and he said yeah sure it could be called said well. We've got to got to save it for tomorrow now so so today is tomorrow or tomorrow. Is that however you WanNa do it and of course it's October third girl's Day for those of you for those of you that are familiar with some of the very very funny memes that that are involved with mean girls including October third yeah I I. I'm a fan as the word did they. Oh by the way we we as promise we did go last night yesterday so just got home. She changed into her to her downton. Abby garb off. We went it was it was good it was it was like a glorified hour and forty five minute episode of the at Ah that's all it was a chance to see everybody almost everybody again. It was good. I enjoyed it. I I love like period pieces for the most part but it was. It was exactly what everybody promise that. If you liked the series you we're GonNa love you. We're GONNA love the the movie and we did my favorite. My favorite masterpiece theater thing of all time was I was fairly young. Tom Brown's schooldays remember. Tom Brown's schooldays. Have you read very good very good. ah back to the task at hand Shug. How do I don't know how we went from show to the Downton Abbey but shook joke for him? It's a big opportunity. Actually he's one he's one nine Breeders Cup races and three this staffs but no classics he's been second twice in the in the classic seeking the gold and of course easy goer and he was most recently third with Honor Code so getting code of honor into the a classic. It's a big opportunity for for shrug to add a you know one of those winds that you could put them in the hall of fame. Oh wait. That's always my favorite joke with all trainers you know if you win that they might put you in the hall tame and they're always slightly taken aback by that. You're already in the hall of fame. Don't worry about yeah. Shook set the boarded. Let's see one two three four. He's run in eight classics with Three Board Hits. The landing ham seeking the gold personal flag easy goer rhythm minors Mark Coronado's quest and honor code. Those are the eight that he's run in the classic and of course he's got a chance to run. Maybe two in the Jubilee Phillies a race where he also has a enviable record record including wins by store flag flying one of my all time favorites and and my flag as well and he's got he's got a couple of board hits there in addition so should should could have a nice wagon by the time Breeders Cup rolls around. Let's say he's one. He's one staffs afs course he won the mile twice with lor he won a sprint with dancing spree. He won a juvenile with rhythm and he wants to juvenile fillies. So among the original Breeders Cup races he has not one turf and he has not WanNa classic turf. theater had that yet the point of entry point eventually was second two thousand twelve so we'll get a little shook little sugar bear in here this morning and talk about code of honor what tip the Scales and that kind of thing ah the horses forces doing good. Why wouldn't you go and take a shot? They're they're bringing back next year. They can just as easily you know. Give him a freshening after Breeders Cup as as not so it must be they. They've got to be feeling good. We'll talk about a lot of his other horses and he's got activity in New York of course as well well as a keeneland and not just in the sakes action but he's got. He's got some very good things going and a lot of momentum in the mcgahey barn and plenty of momentum into the weekend considering. We're talking keeneland. Let's start there and get a quick handle on what they put together yesterday. It's it's a pretty heady as always a false star weekend. Saturday that is actually I think anchored by the the first lady which is insane fourteen or field for for the first lady the Grade One and the Silica comes east rushing shing fall goes a little bit west but that is hardly the that's the you know the headliners on the on the top end but boy. Oh Boy Juliet Foxtrot in here you got this bad behavior for Richie Balkis. Kassy's got Hanley Moon. They know Brian shows up with just wonderful speaking of O'Brien Ryan. We'll talk we'll get a a quick hit in mid morning with Nick luck it was of course stateside for the NBC Z. Coverage and I WANNA get a an arc and ascot turn champions day visited visited with Nick 'cause tomorrow just going to be too thick and heavy with the domestic action so we'll get a nick luck visited before Steve has joins US Tony Black of course later rejang etc but the first lady unbelievable on the two year the front the also by of course Friday on Saturday a field at ten in the breeders futurity. The Champagne is the you know the counterbalance in New York. We'll get to that but very nice. Group came together for the futility a lot of eastern and eastern seaboard runners basically book ending in fact the the field tap it to win this weber and Marcus Impressive Saratoga winter draws the rail and then on the outside Gruber Morris from the outside. He draws the ten Eddie nearly as promised brings back by your side in here. Kassy's got enforceable enforceable as well for Jack Oxley American Butterfly that Lucas Bayden witter that was very good at did a Nice Field American Butterfly shows up in here Miguel Maine aboard is Joey for Kieran and Chadwell Godolphin actually squares off so the brothers Maktoum in here as well Max Max `Field Brendon Walsh Forget Alvin so shake Moshe camp. Dan Involved here mcpeek runs that January one for Herald Learner so really good thirty that comes after the first lady first lady goes as the eighth eternity the ninth. You've got the as the filly and Mare sprint division comes together. That's a win in your in as are and the first lady and the and the futurity the Woodford the turf sprint feel the ten rusty the Arnold trying to build a pretty impressive Phalanx blindster in there to go with to go with his winter from Keelan imprimis as well extravagant kid. There's Brendon Walsh again. Seven trumpets shows up in here this chadwell fourteen or field. Here's well and there's a lot of stuff being thrown at the wall I this one. This one takes a little bit of this. One's GonNa take some digesting because there's a there's horses in here near the including including the Cross entry the interesting cross entry of diamond oops who's also entered in the Phoenix so we'll see what what Patrick via code wants to do here this is this was interesting and did contest. A couple of turf sprints then went as far as six in the Jaipur. It just doesn't seem and they were they were okay. Efforts against horses pay any price down in Florida and world the trouble double the driver so I don't that that's going to be interesting to see what what Patrick's GonNa do there that name that name surprise surprise me van Beethoven peer out of his second for eight no Brian in the Secretary Baltics with Nick shares as still D'Amato told you hero Jack Brennan Scott valid point the lightly raced Bob Edwards Scott that Cope Charlie appleby shows up with the vintage year for Godolphin last seen at Baden Baden September Robin David as well Harry Dunlap. We'll get we'll see what nick's got to say about these players first premio gopher cassie arch to the archway Doi- David Amirah so we got a very nice international flavor to the shadow march the arch for Gassy and Mrs Weber Natural to Real Story WHO's typically out in front ever looked at this ace wise yet Dandora Jackson coming out of the Arlington million where he was a good third. He's a pace a S- player right nice very nice so the Chadwell and the and the first lady a spectacular New York turf sprint the matron the Joe Hirsch and champagne looking forward to being down there green light go gazillion the New York bred ultimately the decision was made Saratoga in Berkeley tag ultimately Tis the law does contest the champagne as opposed to waiting for the state bred racing thing on the nineteenth three technique for parcels and and more. Let's take a break. We'll start with sugar. George go from there at the races the races with Steve Bishop on Sirius Xm radio. Hey what's going on. Mike here and I'm GonNa tell you about an offer from my good friends at express. Let's be honest. We know you love playing the raced raced but you can't always make it to attract. Sometimes life just gets away of a good bet well. What if I told you about a place we never miss it and you start with house? 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I avoided it on Monday just because nobody nobody wants wants to be put up in a in a race the magnitude of the Jockey Club Gold Cup Let's talk about that. Though I mean everybody's they've got their own things even me I know we were running in a straight path and is stuck her head in front and I read drifted out two or three paths and bumped us a couple of times last time pretty significantly according to Johnny and you know the stores made the Mater- but I mean you know it's I'm sure todd thanks that uh it was a wrong call. It was the right call. I think the thing that was amazing about it at least for me. When when I saw the headline repeatedly I said well I mean this is this is clearly a foul and he probably probably should come down but we're so used to the stewards ignoring those kinds of hurting violations joke if they're going to do this regularly regularly? I think everybody would applaud that well. I've always been a little bit at a little bit of a problem with with the way these jobs left the horses drift out from a long time ago around billy focusing in the UH Brazelle into running up the horse on the leading a second I can figure out US wanted to spilling not a buyer and the head on promoted row the winner for George it it come out five or six lanes you know and you know become a war to you know. It's okay if you don't make contact back just to let these things drift out. The way they do is just because you heard a little bit a lot of times. They won't one bomb especially young on one but you know. I think that you know you need Iran riding pretty much a safe straight line and you know they've gotta get get that part of on control. I wouldn't argue for at all. It's something that when the call all came I I was surprised just because you know it. It's something that they generally let go. I I absolutely thought that it was it was pretty clear. It's hard for a horse to go by when somebody's shoulders in front of him. Basically you know basically denying them them access to the straight line it's if this is GonNa be a habit in practice. It's going to be better for everybody but don't they have to communicate indicate that to the jocks and go to the room and either film school or film patrol and tell them and we're we're GONNA start calling this well amount absolutely positive about this but I think that they did have the jock fan on Sunday morning the one and Harvey or to just to show you know they told them we don't want. We don't want to be doing this. It's not I I don't know but I mean in the answers I talked about before I haven't in the mail your back. I S all right into Raleigh this. I'm not complaining but I said you know. Couple of pants is okay if you don't make contact but also when you come out five five six seven pounds. I said I guess a little bit of excessive then he said well. We've been having trouble with that but you know whether they talked about or not I I don't know they need to talk to them about now. In the meantime for you and for code honor it provides another their significant milestone beating elders and talk about the decision in the last few days you know the way he came out and consultation consultation with Mister Farish and going forward to Breeders Cup to the classic. Well you know I think that watching the chain for a couple of days you know I was a little bit surprised at how well it came out of this and especially you know I mean as it was the same with the drivers. You know bounce out of really really quick. Can you know felt that this isn't the same horse we're talking about backing last June or something and you know he's come so far and not only Dan physical but mental development. I think he's learning how to run. I thank Johnny has really learned how to hiawassee written and so you know I mean it's it. It's a great the opportunity to be able to go out there and available to compete in a race such as Breeders Cup I mean we don't get these kind of opportunities that much smaller tables that you know I've gotten this is really going over. Sister Fares has gotten training me so you know like I say you just don't get that many opportunities already and you can be quite a bit quite a bit of state to win and view to win anyway beat baffled source and you know and then with midnight B.'s new you you know they'd be three horses were being contention for the year and so that was something we took. I took into to my to my idea of running also but you know the thing is is you know Mackenzie came open. you know they don't want it to be a wait and see type of thing with the Ryder and so while the best on and and instead of telling Johnny you know we're going to wait and see how it is till but we of or something and maybe cost him amount in the race such as Mackenzie you'll probably be the favored let's call maker decision now. One way or the other and I talked to Mr Bays talk to Bill Farish and I talked to Mike cline general manager of lanes in and just sort of see what their feelings were and that's what we we decided to make the decision I happen running today grinning in the parking lot here at Belmont late yesterday morning and you know he kind of looked at me and that that generated the the story and speaking of generating generating a one zero six buyers showed for this and he'll be coming into the race with two straight mile and a quarter our efforts and you're talking about McKenzie probably going favored. There's there's a school of thought that says why can't why why wouldn't wouldn't code of honor be favored and I in fact I think by the time we get there and we get to Saturday of Breeders Cup Code of honor in Vino Rosso. I feel like the horses at ten furlongs that you know that are the most significant players you know I agree with that. You know route so you know and grey rates the other day and you know obviously run them out or you know there's there's always been a little bit of question of how far Mackenzie wants wants Iran but you know good as bad for it. Is You know he's GonNa get the best effort in Alabama they can possibly possibly get and you know he'll he'll. He'll be tough if you had a race over that track and that's something that we haven't had but that's really really not ever been kind of a big concern of mine. We never you know there've been other times. you know run never run all the track for run well and so you know like I say we're looking forward to three weeks four weeks from Saturday and we'll see what happens that makes it sound shook like you'll you'll ship chip in on top of the race and a little bit like on Tuesday yeah whatever yeah on Tuesday or Wednesday so we're going to the yeah you know I was told a long time ago. Go a month before right on top of the race so it's a lot easier for me me just a sick around here and you let him get his work done in his own environment. Go out there right on top of race and schooling in panic and take him over there around you know and then you know guy like Steve and that's why I've always done it and Steve as always you know. He likes to take his sources well in advance of doing it so you know just what what's your what's your preference is knowing that you were going to join us. I tried it out the record and actually spent a portion of the morning segregating your Breeders Cup starters we'll talk about the phillies in a minute including the opportunity tomorrow in the should the breeders Breeders Cup classic. You've taken eight swings at it. You've got two seconds in the third most recently of course Honor Code with American Pharaoh in two thousand fifteen and then easy goer and seeking the gold the field that this is as good of a chance perhaps as as any that you've had going to the classic. Thanks it's good. I mean you know what but I took easy. Go over there. You know what I mean. It was handler Sunday silence and you know obviously we thought we he added huge huge huge chance and you know with seeking the goal or was in there and you know he was pretty accomplished or by that time and he was older and you know we were probably you know well. We want wanted to run a mile or not done not sure all his best race and reread it ran up to him and you know I gotTa be the Apple Inc and he ran a great race but I feel like that. If Kovar you know has a good month here and stuff and gets out there in good shape that he'd have you know he's going to have good chances. is anybody you know. Maybe the Breeders Cup holes if one too because I think you know last year was a two year old and not taking anything away from game winner that it's well he was doing when we took him Louisville. You know they were GonNa know was in there so maybe this is his payback. I love it well code of Bonner addition to the classic absolutely ratchets up the I'm sure the prestige and the significance and the ramifications Sion's for year end honors. Let's talk about a couple of other divisions including tomorrow opening day at Keeneland and the also bodies you're separating operating. Mrs Danvers Running Alon Dra tomorrow at the talk about her well. She's feeling that I've uncalled along you know saw probably last December now British for the first time was impressed with her and continue to be impressed with all alone when we got her she went into keeneland April or May and Re Hata there you know she did everything right. We brought her to serve Tobin. I just wanted to myself for a while and you know she got herself. Rate Iran and you know radyr seven eighths up there and you know she broke good and you know showed some early speed and you know remember coming through the stretch of she was on the inside and also outside from where I wish I was one on the outside but you know the last sixteenth or something she sort of kicked away and finished up well and came back to Belmont good shape and felt like a mile of the sixteenth at keeneland around two terms with short stretch would be something that you feel like you know I was. I knew it'd be a big field and so I was hoping I got got a good draw and we did get before four and you know zero riding Mino- we got philly of of our Kassy's to be along with some others but of course he's the most complex one winning the spent away but you know it's. Let's see what happens well now. She's got you know. Look at what we saw yesterday and after the draw and and little handicapping this morning you mentioned Kassy's Philly Villi the Cox Philly British idiom she seems okay and then there's a couple of others that that are going to have to improve to content and then you're going to turn around and have the opportunity with Mrs Danvers the opportunity should potentially send to phillies to the Breeders Cup well MRS divers run she came up with Paul Ankle so author but hopefully run run good and Helen and her mother along take a shot. You know we go out there with two. That'd be great grind third. It won't be Griffey into a lot more fun. No doubt about it. You could wonder underrun on Friday and Saturday. Give me something to do. Let's talk about a couple of other things that have been going on and yeah we did talk about performer and going back to the end to Saratoga came back with another nice performance very pleased with them. it worked a little faster I wanted to over the weekend and I was a little bit worried about that but he showed sort of the new dimension that go go along which I've always sort of thought that he wander on father then what he'd been doing and you know I broke all the lead and Joe Joe Elsa just sorta float long out there having a good time and you know he's engaged him on the inside the turn for home and you know Kinda got his attention. Anyone finished up really well and he seemed to come out of it really well and I've got a good good while in between right right now which I like and you know forty discovery at acqueduct the end of November and and then we'll give them over the time off and hopefully greenback and having my four year old that's sort of what we've been pulling for now and a lot of patients and and get rewarded down the road talk a little bit about a couple of the recent maiden winter's going back to September since the last time we spoke go specifically about runners how about how about you sending out Nola gay at at Kentucky downs in winning well very very impressed with the race. You know almost like maybe woulda came around the second time I had to run up that hill maybe she was one little fire. Ah But when she fired she fired big and she came out of the race good again and she's here at Belmont you had to work last weekend and we're planning on runner are in the Chelsea Flier here at the end of a Tolbert on Mount sixteenths on the turf from our whatever it is and you know looking forward to that too and then you know she steps up the way she does and you know there could be something early in Florida the Laura and then we'll sort of take take it from there a couple of other maiden winters at Laurel and that included in a hurry three and periodical. Did you get a gauge on on what kind of upside there is with those two well. I think that you know I'm not sure if she's a New York horse but she's she's. She's sure decent and you know I think it probably you know maybe runner back down there somewhere along the line and then you know thanks you'd probably really enjoy Florida aww at firm or two shorter turns and so we'll try there and then you know I think there's a lot of upside within in a hurry to both races have been really well. Meanwhile rancher it it colonial down she just sort of got lost the first part of it and then when she figured but it out to finish up well and then the other day you know she was kind of laying laid back a little bit and I saw Arb- fractures were slow and you know we got carried out a little bit and got bumped and also and she was able to finish up a good. I and I'm the author what her Chelsea fire also. I got a first time starter today to and it is pretty cool cool show that you're back training horses for John Ed Anthony Husband Fun. You know he will brought together. Muppets considered the offspring's this winter but you know he was GonNa help kickstart my career and a big way away is back and you know we've we've always stayed and SORTA contact whether you know saying L. award him ask me about certain trainer or something that he was thinking think about horses to and we don't really like to give that advice because sometimes it works and sometimes it done and eight or nine here for warm gun a nice horse end today phone on the work that well our how Derby and last year for Brad Khan and you know so I for I are with him is oppressed. Guile and in countless field is way around on the the Pedo and then really finished well and to be four only three legs as wide and the whole thing U. L. Came back and told his you know say ran. Good was was pleased with the meetings say a whole lot but size kind of a horse and and you know we've got some other two year olds also point or skulls stanhope is the New York Brad has been seconds only two starts arts and dirt enter and Pretty Nice broken vow to your old philly. Here's I plan on running the next two or three weeks she's got some talent but might might take a race or two four in the Balkan vowel for to kind of get the hang of it and so so you know I'm looking forward to watching crosses bluff run today and and I know also and what we've got going on on down the road at an ice super saver for him and hurt himself served told them but you'd probably be about ready to come back and go back and train and here in the next two three weeks Lake them raw and that might have been better by design to that time so so looking forward to getting him back and I'll take it looks like if we hold everything together that rievaulx take string is too hot springs this winter and so you know he lives there and that's where he wants to run and he he's just telling me when he contacted to me back last winter that just having a hard time finding somebody that wanted to go there and and and stay the New York trainers yes and and so it was looking for somebody to do that. You know we were unable to sort of brought up with reeve involved and so it's like like he'll go out there for me which I'm a little bit side to because they'll give me an opportunity to you know maybe send some auto out there and and go in Powell. Maybe some sources are Johnny or whoever will elsewhere got that you know it'll make it a lot easier without having somebody there instead of having a pack them up and send them out there and bring them back and all that so well and it's hard to resist you know hard to resist that condition book with the kind of the kind of money involved and I don't blame. I don't blame John Anthony this way this way he can. He can mix it up with Alex Leib long and all the other prominent oaklawn owners hope. I love the place. It's really on that helps way. You know I think that you know I'll talk to Luis Selo well laugh f August and then all of this before that and I think they're very enthusiastic about what's going on out there and prove that they're making I mean they're building hotel tail and I was asking John what the town thinks about the hotel and he said well they're mad about the hotel was that he's goals. They wanted to be bigger expansion of the Casino Hotel and with you know a couple extra weeks of of racing almost a month more racing you know. I think that I think that is the place it's really a race practice on the on the upswing you know they're not afraid to put their money into the purses and they even overnight in the states and try to Bacon on track to place to become the race. There's no doubt about it. Short leaf the the LOB lolly the current incantation of of LOB lolly and Crockett's bluffed trouble on call Blah Blah the right. Why wouldn't you but he after after he kind of laughed and came back and shortly is the is the race name you know and this is a tale of the cat cold Crockett's bluff today with forest voice at Laurel and high north who actually saw north at Oaklawn and when he was that the northern spur may be in la your art last year and then it? Let's also touch on the New York maidens on Saturday shook because really nice guard for Champagne Day and let's just touch on these because I haven't really done any of the any of the pedigree work but let's run downhill. Let me turn to my Pilaf. The PS you got yeah. The Fourth Harlem Harlem Heights burned eating philly big coun- LEGGY Philly a last throw out. Amanda Shave passed so she has this report of injury and I race was a good race. She was on the inside and got started up in the whole probably about five six cm poll and won rave for that and he had to check her out of there and then he tried another one and you know we end up being four not be you know that far. I think the race will help her but you know I think if she's going to be a good phillies going to be next year just because she's likes he's a big big league account billy but I'm looking forward to run or ground on Saturday and you know thanks for making good account yourself and then got battle boo edge in a very very tough up to your waist but opposes further phrase was pretty good race officer told them where he finished for the vita ways but L. I like this race and came out of it and he's trained well. these are some new people for me. tease would never met the the the head people from amenable Friday but Robert Landrieu's are are gathered visor and stuff. I know for good while it was the right good rider up there and he sort of asked me. I'd take some. I've got him. I'm an I've got to really Nice Billy's form at fair hill I mean they look like they're nice and I'm looking afforded Ryan. I think you run a good race and and we'll see what happens but you know like I say it's a it's a pretty salty race for a mile outrace Belmont this time of year and then. US Army warfront Cold Joe Allen's that ran really well for star Serotonin face for from was only be a little ways. was in contention to still last part of it and got a little bit of kind of runny nose situation and Sir told he was one of them so I had to kind of buy off of anybody works for being good and you know which raining I think we'll have like you'll they'll always in there on Saturday nights so a trio in the three the maiden races and you talked about the saltiness of that seventh race it includes the one point eight million dollar Larry Best Kirwin coal from the keeneland sale last year vintage print that Chad Brown has got and few other few other Nice purchases and the Nice pedigrees and you know the Shug you gotta horse like this this this Malibu Wedge Malibu out of the storm cap mayor by chiefs would this is this is going to put you on the Queen's Plate Path Areas Ontario version. I hope that guy that'd be fun. That'd be something that'd be diversity but you know I like the situation with the with the chiefs words people looking forward to meeting them on Friday. They've also got one in the house. Somebody's that Marquette's and stuff all home and so you know other they will do. They said they always do in Ontario so but I thank you know can be okay and and I'm over four to run him on Saturday. Well it it. It's fun to see you getting some getting some new yes some new owners and expanding the operation at at this stage year career two thousand wins in well. I mean it's off. You know they've got they've come back. They WANNA THEY WANNA have he'd go on and have quality mayors breed and you know I mean he's just all last September. Eleven September right team ah sold the colts and we only had one philly in Philly and Abba cold yearling and which I've got one of those around my inner today for for Sunday Call Tyler move and you know eh and he's got ten or twelve but kind of had it gives me an opportunity to look up some new stuff and you know hopefully you know like with a code of honor and you know I had a philly and still got her. I Andrews WanNA steak and Mama. The summer called Pink Sands Vander Rosen gains way and you know he's got Europe has got a he's got a nice Carlin. Philly out of first passage it's yearling and so you know it gives you a chance to look at some new stuff and you know just like with Andrea and Helen trained your mother and train Allen for for her mother's sister for long for a long time uh-huh but you know she sent me just building. Hopefully she's GonNa work out to be okay. Now I mentioned I mentioned yesterday A- and again this morning when looking forward to to talking that you you've got as as active a barn as as you have in in recent memory and some exciting things and and that was even before this decision to take code honor out to out to the Breeders Cup which only ratchets things up and you know it's funny we we we thought you were competing for three year old championship and you're reaching reaching for the brass ring going after the year now well. I mean you know obviously that's that's up in our in our remind but you know I'm not I'm chasing racist more on chasing championships but that also is on my mind you know I said if we could go out there and make a good show on at my my enhance or through euro situation and also could give us you know chance of maybe being being horse of the year and that'd be a big feather and had either one of them and you know how would they would be very satisfactory to me and Mr Parrish you said earlier. I've never won the classic again. you know these kind of opportunities just don't come up for gone with the limited stable that much so. I think that it's time Tom started taking advantage of some of these opportunities and is also doing doing right. won't take a chance because you know if on the game winning they absolutely right and you think about the thinking about your jockey club Gold Cup winners van Landingham was the Iranian was your first Breeders Cup star of any kind right yup how `bout that landing on a giant Gold Cup day I interviewed for the job how about that that's great and and then out to out to Breeders Cup and he was he was seventh that year and then you came back with easy goer in eighty nine and miners mark wanted to in in ninety-three those your other your the other cops well really excited by this and news and everything else that's going on. Get lucky with a laundry tomorrow as well and we'll look forward to talking and seeing you out at Santa Anita stable. Thanks a lot for calling it's always tremendous to get this is kind of visited and get caught up not just on his current horses but everything else that's going on and you know you you get choked to take courses for you and you gotta you gotta be excited. The chiefs would people in Ontario Gianetti Anthony who started out you think about it landing Amazon as he just just discussed also was there was there was another there was another early I should have asked that yet another early success with John Ed as well any better Joe Allen still and Andrew Rosen Phipps Janney operations that he's got a couple of for parcels okay. That was fun. I I could just sit and listen to him and he's just he's amazing. Take a break here. Come back and I guess we'll at this point. You might as well go to Gopher Tony at the top of the hour and then nick o'clock is going to visit we'll get segmented with him and talk about the Arc Sunday the ascot skit action and maybe a couple of those euros that are showing up for the shad well and then some other impressions he's been he's been stateside for the NBC telecasts. What else what else went on how about yesterday hey what seth was on we we glanced at those races and the one horse yesterday that I was interested in betting was that typical in the nightcap it and boy oh boy that was that was a tough beat at a big price sixteen scene two one and just josh missed? I ran a very good second but boy would have would have really preferred yeah would have much preferred the typical get up in that spot boy that would have been I would've been alright and the the funny thing is the race. We're going to the movies at so Titas telling me turn off your phone. Turn off your phone turned off so and I ended up turning off the phone and the race went off. I don't know ten minutes in and I thought I was going to get away with it. They were it wasn't the movie was started. They were running. They were running previews but she's a stickler for not. The phone turned off the phone. Okay all right. You're so so then went to the you know whether the bathroom after the Boob boot up the phone I see she finished the second and was beaten. The nose and I just actually maybe it's a good thing. It's a good thing. Actually I did not see it before for the movie because I I would I yeah it was good that I saw after then I pulled up the the replay. Should we have good fred very good at sixteen to one so it wasn't. I was not unhappy with the effort. Let's take a break. Tony Black is gonNA join US next. 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Part 2: Tony Black, Steve Haskin

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Part 2: Tony Black, Steve Haskin

"Tony Good Morning. Good Morning Steve. And I love that. Saddam is on standby make. And I love what you're talking about this morning I've heard it in pieces of You know the governor. Tom Is proposing to take some of our money from racing. The always puts it out there doing something education. 'cause that's what that gets all the bleeding heart line who knows something with this money other than racing and gambling I was at the Equa Star. Stallion showed the other day Sunday at bill and it was a stallion show and it was a show of state representative and it was a show of support that the racing industry provides when they have something of controversy to stand again. There was everybody there when it came to a jockeys trainers owners readers. Jocky agent you name it. People showed up and they showed a lot of support here to stay representatives and we got a chance to talk to some of them and some of them even give you the impression that proposing this bill and taking that money is. It's it's not even legal at this particular time. It's a legal issue that would have to be borrowing over and so it's not even legal without amending the old bill and whatever you gotTA. Do you know the impression that guys gave. There's going to be made by just over legal to do this. So that was a plus. When I saw the people that were there I thought to myself Governor Tom the big bad wolf. You you you can have all your. You Ain't going to blow this house down raised you know we might better horses down on. Straw. But we don't build our houses out of Straw as the bill down at cement and Steel. And how are stick to business and stick together when we have controversy controversial issues? really stands out. This was unbelievable. The show of support. That was that was star salvation show. It was more of a state representative Joe a show of strength of the racing industry than it. Even was a stallion show. But you know what I couldn't believe how well mannered though stallions were before that they brought out and show and smarty. Last time I saw smarty Jones was out of farm and paddock and he was standing on his hind legs. He came out there looking beautiful and was a total gentleman. Every stallion they showed was just and in the middle of the crowd and they are really really well cared for well mannered and it was a great show stallions and a great jealous frank for the racing industry no doubt And we're also continuing to hear from industry stakeholders and then representatives from from the legislature and As I mentioned just now with Andy Sim off his senator Down in Chester Delaware counties. Tom Killian With a statement yesterday Tony and I like I like I've been saying I don't think this is going to. They're not going to be able to raid the the Development Fund A. But at the same time it is it it's created a bad atmosphere and enough so we're GONNA talk to Brian San Fratello tomorrow. There's a meeting today actually With the coin I think the equality coalition today and the the Horse Breeders Association. But there's people that are concerned enough that they've pulled mayors. You know that are that are ready to fall and taking them elsewhere. And whether it's the Maryland New York Virginia whatever and AH this is even if thirty forty five sixty days from now it becomes obvious to everyone that nothing is going to come of this threat. There's already damage that that is being done. And that that'll be seen in in the number of polls or or the the some of the people that were thinking of bringing mayors to Pennsylvania this year It it it. The uncertainty creating a atmosphere of uncertainty isn't is a huge negative because people want to be able to count on on the future right. It creates an unstable environment. Like you say exactly you know and it could medically or someone affect us this year. You know you're right on and it's a shame because the breeding program and Pennsylvania is such a quality program. Epa Reds is because of the money that they get awarded they race any place in the country and be competitive there. Is there such a good good of read the Apron? I mean we see him. Go all over and they've raised in New York. We you know we raise not in major. Stake races All over the country and and they reduce so. It's a shame that we might get a little kick in the teeth this year but it won't happen next year and if this thing's gonna I don't see it. You know getting passed in any way. It seems like it's going to be up in the air longer than it's GonNa be and discussed for a long time. You know But yeah I it's a shame like you say to create that uncertainty but we'll overcome it. We will overcome Tony. Separate Topic That I utilize you for these Various anything that falls in you know into your sphere of of expertise and experience and the story involving the Borough. Arroyo is just really sad and and I you know I. I know that there's no it's GONNA be. You're not going to generate a lot of sympathy for for his lifestyle choices and the decisions that he's made but it just seemed that You know whatever whenever he's away from the racetrack and and I'm sure this has been true of a lot of a lot of jocks over the years. That's when the trouble starts you know when when when they're on a on the grounds you know working in the morning and then you know riding in the afternoon or evening when there's idle time and and I whether it's injury-time and and you know whether it's whether it's substance abuse or in this case this case domestic abuse The There was that highly publicized. Fight that His father and and he and his brother got into with the pool. Cue a story with the with the CABBIE and it's just it it's really depressing frankly to to read about this because I don't think anybody questions his talent and and you know he's the example of the current example but he's hardly You know he's hardly a first the first time. We've we've seen something like this. Now it's a it's a story. I can really relate to. I haven't read the total story on him You know when it comes to domestic abuse when it comes to drug and alcohol abuse Not Domestic Abuse always had wives over five for ten of bigger than me. Wouldn't you probably very athletic? Always big and strong and the own. Your view would have been if I raised my hand to beat the hell out. No this is not the drugs. A little idle idle. Time is your biggest opponent when it comes to alcohol abuse. You know when you're working and you have your nose to the grindstone and your clean and sober. You're winning races and then you get some idle time. You know because you being you know you're rewarding yourself that say you celebrate with and then all of a sudden fall back into some bad habits and celebrate them in the wrong way You know like I said I got maintenance. Over in December Fifteenth Nineteen Ninety and it was just Seven six or seven years blogger that that was just a downhill slide. When it came to my business came to my home life when it came to everything. I touched my finances Drug and alcohol consumed everything that was good and I finally straightened out. And I realized if there's a better way to to conduct yourself and I got all in programs surrounded myself with with strong people and a good network of people that helped me stay clean and sober and here we go from Nine Hundred Ninety two thousand twenty and I never forgot what it was to the out there bombing around. I never forgot about walking down in alley and had money in my pocket and two guys waiting for me in my car and then the guy and come on down there come on. You gotta come down. There's valley and I just had this feeling I get to the end of the alley and go into this doorway. I'M GONNA get beat up. Probably kill at some. For some reason I went to the doorway and I turned around and I was last time. Did any coke and Franken here. In two days later went into the APP. I looked I think of that story today as it happened yesterday and I think I was a de walked in that door way on a dark alley of Federal Street and Camden. You gotta be nuts. That sound much. Want Coke and the light went on when I got back in the car is is guys in. Both of them are dead right now. The Guy I was with both of them dead. I don't think I should mention their name. But they both was rider. One was training. That goes debt. I got clean and sober after that. They stumbled onto around till they I was. I was going to die that night. I know. I think it's still today. It wasn't paranoia. I was going to die that night. If I went through that door. One that has been at. It helped me stay clean so I like living. I wonder kids. Thirty eight and thirty six got fourteen and a twelve year old in this is all. I would have missed but you know what some people they don't have that Awakening and you know a royal and many stories just like his weren't as fortunate but has to decide. It's not the people around you decide that you're going to straighten your life whether it's gambling whether it's drugs and alcohol whether it's domestic violence you know has to decide you're going to straighten your life bucks you you yourself after decide that not everybody around you not the Legal System. I got pulled over for. Dui It never phase me. You GotTa do you. I don't know how I never got busted for drugs. You know But you yourself have to straighten up and decided better way of life. And that's what I wanted. I just hope anybody that's facing did find a network of white people to decide. There's a better life out there if you wanna live it if you WANNA die a bomb if you want to be in these situations legal situations financial busted situation stay away. Are you want to straighten up and be productive and have a good life or a better life than what? You're having straighten up no matter what the problem is handling. Raw whatever. Straighten up as you know Wise words Tony and it just like just like you have to know you know the whole you know where where you're going to where you're gonNA steer what whole you're gonna hit or you know where there's an opening and you would you really you. You would think that writers in general given or maybe it's the opposite. You could address this. I was GonNa say you would think that in a vocation where you face death you know life and limb parallel to life and limb five six seven times a day in the afternoon and you know the morning is the morning is maybe a little less dangerous. But it's still dangerous it you would think that that that habit in practice and and being in that environment would provide positive direction and make those lifestyle choices easier but maybe it doesn't maybe maybe the thrill of of the action in the afternoon. You know you're constantly chasing other kinds of highs If you know what I mean absolutely You know it is a high to win race it. It's I stay fit and perform and no you were part of being a winner. You know The dangers of the business. I used that excuse. Never Forget when a counselor told me shut up and get sober and then we'll you can explain that eighteen months from now. Now it's just what the council and I was talking about all the dangers that they in a junkie all my childhood Nov this crying and then of why I like to do drugs. Why did drugs was my release from my from my childhood from the dangers of being a jockey. This is my release. This is unnecessary ally. Celebrate that I've survived another day and she said there's all bullshit she says. Shut up and wait till you get over eighteen months and then tell me when I was going to this counselor after getting out of Actually Rehab secondly him then. I thought one day after about two years. I says you know why I got involved with drugs and it's a simple simple reason. I like the feeling of getting high. It had nothing to do with any problems as a pass and inches of the profession. That you say with somebody goes on house a couple beers or glass of wine. I like to continue it with coke. You know you could drink more you could snort more. You could drink while you can sort. I like being high. That's why I got high and the high wasn't to relieve myself as a pressure of this was all bs I was trying to find an excuse instead of being accountable for my actions. Let me find an excuse that I can make up. That people will buy. That's why I got high on really a good guy. I you know I thought you know what this counselor told me to shut up that day. Another forget you and she was right on. She heard enough of that. Yes you know you get all right. Good you're getting high. That's it plain and simple. It's not a belief it's a cop out just saying it's a release. I like I like my head in the clouds. I like being in the fall. It was a it was just an excuse to let myself off the hook to address business. I'LL BE S. When I signed my life I started galloping. North I knew people got hurt with. I think I was going to be one of the chosen few now. Is that every job. But you know you can use it as an excuse that A. B. S. Excuse I I I hope for the best but you know it it doesn't It doesn't look promising. And the you know. These stories always seem to have the the same ultimately the same bat ending You know until until there's a lot of the bad ending we've seen and I know trainers I know Jackie. They were kids when I was an older rider. That aren't here. There was jockeys that I started out with that on here and the end of the story was. They aren't here because they they weren't fortunate enough to say I want to be straight. I WanNa do things right. I WANNA be accepted into this business. I WANNA be accepted into my household and my life my personal life and I wanted to do it the way it's supposed to be done with as little controversy is possible with no drugs and alcohol and not making the front page because I got busted again domestic violence. You know there's a bunch of Lighters I know some of riding and straighten their lives up in doing quite well. Now that one of the waking points of their life with domestic violence he got arrested and they've lost family and the only way they could have any relationship with her family anymore was after you know the violent part of domestic violence and some of them with violence in food room with acoustic altercation. You know on the street. Well it finally took a hold of that and they did need them. They live among our so writing today. Or were involved in other Advocation and they're doing quite well within. They're the ones that are with that story. That are out there. They're either still bombing around or they're get there. Yeah Yeah Tony I wish I wish we'd spent twenty minutes talking Some race results but the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania's situation and this situation the topics. And that's you know that that that happens. So that's all right we'll I'm glad you got out there to to the show and To the rally and I appreciate the those notes and we'll catch up next week. We'll swing back to the raising. I love this worth raising housing native steel. We cannot do often involves anyone to Saudi black. Everybody the one and only let's a break. We gotta get this the asking. And we'll talk to Steve about his impressions of what happened at Tampa. The Sammy Davis and the Dow on Sunday and then start to look at The risen star. We'll see what. Steve's thoughts are about the two divisions and of course Gouverneur Morris running tomorrow Lots lots to look at and we'll do it with ABC after this rich to We'll go back to Vegas one more time. And as I mentioned at Peter's Tomorrow Santini to those of you that play against them Online Had very sharp and we're going to utilize his very careful tracking of the oaklawn opening weekend and parlaying it to to to steal. Andy Sterling's trips and traps in a witch horses. That ran outside chased the inside speed particularly opening day but also that second day as well to a degree those horses running back right now and they're running. Well the Bet Bax. This is how I want. Want you to fairly new. And you haven't heard this kind of of approach and the leg work that goes into it being prepared to cash down the road where once you've understood how certain races were run. That's that's what it's all about. So Ed Peters tomorrow. In addition to the other weekend preview action Haskins stay with US athletes with Stephen on Sirius. Xm Radio Hey. What's going on Mike and I'm going to tell you about an offer for my good friends at express but let's be honest. We know you'll love playing the racist but you can't always make it to the track. Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good bet. What if I told you about a place where you never miss a bed and you start with house money? It's am crazy right now. 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To the top of the hour sleep askin joining us. And you know for for a weekend where we kind of thought. Well it's Kinda quiet. There's the Sam Davis and the SAN sent they. It ended up being pretty significant and of course two divisions of the Risen Star on Saturday. The southwest will draw tomorrow for Monday for holiday. Monday Steve asking good morning morning. Steve You throw me off today by the way your schedule online has archives for today. What do you mean under Thursday says archives interesting where I worked with killed whether or not I don't know what that even I? You mean like on the interesting I it had it had it had it had Wednesday blank and it had on Thursday shows Part one part two part three archive I see. I see it was putting the wrong okay. It was putting the wrong. I see it now. Okay well let me see barber Barbara minshull and Johnny okay Yeah now yeah that that that Was Put in the wrong place and actually the. I told everybody the third hour we knew. The third hour was was corrupted. I ours one and two were okay and but I'm surprised That they're not there. I see what you mean. Okay all right now. That'll be corrected. Um this there's no. There's no corruption in horse racing. It's well in in in the recording of the show. Yesterday there was our three Steve. You know we were obviously at HCC had so much fun. I don't know if you've tuned in it all to the to the contest but It's so much fun under that scenario especially on Saturday and you know were commenting on the plays and bring people in but at the same time. We're watching all the the racing and virtually everything 'cause it's not like being at home and even if you have if you have our T. N. And I should really do some. We've got a promotion going with Artie. And we just started That's about the way I suppose you can see all the split screen action but at the contest you've had eight racetracks running at once and and you pretty much can see everything that's happening and so it was kind of. It was kind of fun. Because you get your right on top. You have to hear about something you know days later that happened and that included a horse like SPA city for for Kieran that that looks like there's upside and then came of course All the action of Tampa and your thoughts What did what did we see? I had a fun conversation with Patrick. Biancone this looks like a fascinating horse. Sold allante yeah. Well I jumped him. Ride kept it right up to number two at so much. I thought of the how much thought of the race. I was very very impressed. You know sometimes you see horse that just you know as they say checks off all the boxes and I mean I could not find any any flaws As I as I wrote in Derby dozen he looks like a Derby Horse. I mean he's kind of what you look for in Derby I just I just love the way he runs. He's got a beautiful strike to him. I like his earlier races. You know he he showed what you know. What a devastating stretch run he has he had on the grass and then he came back and he ran a good third. Didn't explode like he did on the grass when he ran into mutual macho man. But I'll tell you towards the finished ahead of them. Macho man is GONNA turn out to be very telling race. I think cancer is hot bed awards. And he's certainly moves up now as does. The runner-up has seen TV. I think they're both wearing very good races. I think that race was probably short for him. and he he closed well enough to rank In this race while I mean he just absolutely exploded and you could see them. Come when you could see a common. You knew he was loaded. Show them come into the picture at the three. H Paul. It comes up on the inside than swings out and the way he just Doing he just ran right by independence hall and the way he did it one you won. What is was ears prick His third quarter when he made that big move he ran that third quarter twenty. Three flat came on the sixteenth. Six flat I mean. That's that's serious running and you know if you look at his pedigree man I I I I loved it so much pedigree and you would think from his pedigree that he would be aggressive horse so I give it a lot of credit for the Patrick. You know putting putting them on the dirt but if you look at his pedigree you know. He's in first of all these inbred to me ask so. He's got the Rasmussen Factor. You don't see many foreign mayors the RASK recent factor. What's one thing you have to remember? Is that everybody knows of me. Ask is obviously a champion grass. Milo and two-time Breeders Cup winner but people will realize that masks broodmare sire is prove out but was you know it was one of my all time favorites And prove out did was was trounce. Forego Secretary and Riva Ridge in two in two months so I mean I think very highly prove out who's king ranch tremendous pedigree so I think you know you might get a lot from that and then you start looking at the female family and you start seeing that mill reef Shirley Heights line which is one of the most successful in Europe both Shirley Heights both won the English Derby and you start looking at the at the mood mares in there I mean solve a lot of things damage. They have sisters delight shift to one the English oaks and second the Irish oaks. His third them northern trick was a tremendous Villi. She's a half sister to on the sly. Who won the Jockey Club Gold Cup and she wanted to French? Jokes remain was second in the Arctic. I mean the pedigree's absolutely loaded choice is going to run all day and you know you look you look at the sights era well. Cara Conti was the grass miler. But I tell you who we really reminds me of a lot is liberal is the Santa Mo- both sired who was a grass mile devote? Both foreign breaks both grass. Milers wanted to Santa Mo- animal kingdom. Who likes so volonte excels on dirt and grass and had a huge closing kick. So He's sort of remind you know Tara Kaci said reminds me of the Santa Mo- And if the source is any even half as good as animal kingdom so I mean it's just it's just a fascinating a fascinating horse and I don't feel strongly about many horses so I had no reluctance at all to move up to number two. He wasn't quite ready to hit the top. You know I'm not. I'm not taking his lawyer off. 'cause I'm a big fan of his and I think he's certainly Legitimate Derby contender and deserve to be number one. But you know for me to go from horses off to the Derby dozen all the way to number two in a like the Sam Davis. It just shows you how how impressed I was was his race and you know you know Patrick. Biancone comes from out of nowhere. Now he's got he's got a pretty good one two punch in the Derby when you add at J. Indian So he's got to get to a huge derby voices and you know you mentioned the race at Gulfstream spot city. Listen you can't knock him. I mean he ran a mile race in one. Forty nine in one and you look really legitimate a really solid horse and this is about the time you want to see a horse breaking maiden he broke it at a mile and a days so he certainly could be ready to step up into stakes company. He's not gonNA find any any non winners so they're gonNA PROBABLY GO STAKES Cup. Stakes company was him now especially having supposedly lost. Maciel for the Derby unless you make some kind of miraculous recovery. I mean. He's not even anywhere near a race yet. So Godolphin has this horse and he looks like a it. Looks like a legitimate of course and also you know and and and Karen also you know has azure. We'd who you know even even though he was He was well. Well beaten He was just way too. He's just been dulled when you I would keep saying when you run into revson. It really does you. 'cause you know they're gonNA go one fifty three fifty four and then it comes back with you know with another race where he's way way back so. I think they can short him but maybe go for the Gotham or something like that. I don't know what their plans are. But if he can short. Just get some speed. He showed good tactical speed earlier in his career. So I you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonNA throw out actually but that's another thing I liked about solve allante eleven and a quarter lengths to third horse. I mean that's that's also pretty. That's what I love to see. I live to see big gaps more so I love to see the gaps between the second and third more than like to see a horse win by a large margin because you never know what he'd beaten but when he run when is the big gap between second and third. You know that it is at least one good horse in there and it was some other good horses like I said I mean I looks like you know when a distance stretch out he's GonNa be he's GonNa be just fine. I would not I would not give up on him and Another by the way. And it's probably GONNA be too late for him to make the Derby because you really have to be a winner by now but the horse that ran seconds a SPA cities a plenty of West unrighteous worded. I like when I see what I saw there and again talking about a gap the gap in that race was like fourteen links To the third horse. And Yeah he's still a little green and doesn't have the greatest action. But I tell you if I had that horse I'd I'd I'd run right into a stakes race. I would I would not I would. I would say forget about this. Was like a maiden victory when you finish that far ahead of the third horse and it was a pretty good. There was some pretty good horses. Yeah Todd pledges type lecture. I mean Chat Brown finished third. He he was like in another in another zone that back their telephone talker and I know he was. He was a favourite news bad high hopes for him and he he was totally out. This inspite Easter horses and I just thought I just like n righteous looks like a real stayer very long and lean and he's got a big strike to him. It's kind of a sloppy strike. But it'll it'll get over that like I said he's still big green But he got the pedigree watch out for their doors if they stick with a maiden race. He's going to be a lock in his next start. But I like I said I would. I would say you know what this was as good as the maiden voyage. I don't need to run an intimate race again. Just stays company with them and see what you got. I think he's got towels. It so remember remember. That was but now he was a good day. It was a good day for a good day for racing. Can we should. I thought we saw some very some very talented horses. And then of course on Sunday we had the same senti. And you know everybody's going nuts over novell and I knew I was GonNa take actually. I didn't I thought I was going to take a lot more heat for not having any top twelve. You really have to baffled gorgeous but you know. Listen if you deserving deserving but I had absolutely. Nobody'S TAKE OFF I. Nobody did anything. I like all the horses I have in the top twelve and the bottom line is he said to to sprint races and I started I started looking back and you have to go back a long way to go out fifty three years three years. Only horses have gone into March. Only took everyone's got into March not having run at seven furlongs trained by baffert. So you justify who's a triple crown winner and yet still the charm who want to lecture the triple crown and who who is a great one winner at at two? I still think this was just you know he loves to show you know what he has. I obviously he's a very talented horse. But let's not get too over the top. Everybody says oh well you know he ran it. He made a half from forty four. Well Yeah but you know what storm the court it was not even a speed or Israeli. He ran the half in forty. Four hundred one. It was beaten to links in a race that he's just in his prep so and the thing is the bottom line is is that they got ninety. One buyer yeah. I don't I don't like to go by buyers too much but if you are a buyer pundit you know? I mean ninety one is certainly nothing nothing spectacular. I think you should go to work but I just want to wait before I start putting them in the top twelve. They went last eight to thirteen and three and I four finishes were separated by two and a quarter lengths to. Let's see what he does. You'RE GONNA run into rebel next and if he runs big there. Then you got a derby horse. But I'm not going to rush to put him in a foot of six and seven for all one race and And then have to wait. You know five weeks for the rebel just to see what we have is going to be too much going on even if I put him in the top twelve you know after this weekend is a good chance that somebody would bump him out of it anyway so again. I'm just GONNA play a wait and see attitude with him. I'm not gonNA rush and proclaimed him the next The next superstar like a lot of people are doing i. I actually thought that I mean I guess it all depends on and you've got all the comments that that that come in The Post things but it seemed to me. Actually the people were that I saw reaction wise including as we were sitting Sunday following the contest action. That people were not the all that I don't know for sure I totally sure that people say you know. Oh how could you leave the Dow off you know? How can you do this? I hardly a mention of them. I mean I can't say anything about it. I mean it's just like you know. A couple of peoples thinks that he was good to us which is fine and the doors. But we're talking you know. Top twelve from the Kentucky Derby Right now and and the point. I made which I mentioned to you. Know to someone. If this was was trained by Richard Bosses in Callahan. If people are going to be going nuts over what he's done is he broke. His made three three quarter lengths and then he. He barely won his second. You know as a sprint steak with I. Four finishes with into tuna quarterbacks each other and it gets a ninety one brier if trained by Richard Bolsters Up People. Go nuts over him. No He's trained by Bob Baffert and rightly. So you know Bob Baffert has a good horse. People take notice but you know let's not proclaiming the next justify quite yet. We'll see what he doesn't rebel first and then if he runs. Well you jump right onto the list as I as I discussed yesterday. Who was that even with was? I can't keep track. Yesterday's came up and I guess it was said we were going over pedigree on on the Dow and There's actually some real parallel the females families of And sold Allante I thought the thing that was most encouraging coming out of that performance was BAFFERT's Reaction Where he said well. Now I've got something to work with and you know that was a terrific. I mean he essentially used a pace spot and a black a black type spot as a workout. He wanted to get a major major tighter. And a real you know razor into him and the fact that he immediately said. We'll go to the rebel with him. Almost certainly I thought that was a real vote of confidence in what you just saw and and Baffert is projecting for four weeks down the road so I think the thing. I think. It's a vote of confidence that he's a very good horse which you probably is I just like I said I just don't know right. Now he's Derby Hordes he's only gonNA have four starts going into the Derby two of them are going to be sprinting racist So He's you know he's still got some still got some catching up to do you know. And you know Baffert Baffert emailed me and told me I had the authentic to. He said he was his best. So so you know. I don't know what happened. Two thousand words stores and then I remember. High-velocity was the best source and eight rings was as bad stores. And you know it happens. And you know pop up. And they run better and one When supersedes the previous ones he keeps coming up with the with good courses? But you know authentic who you know to me. Slow gotTA show that. He wants to go a mile and a quarter his pedigree and he's got speed on top speed on the bottom the Bapti at him and he does physically. He does look like Astaire and we'll see you know. Intimate Group has had horses certainly excels in a Mile. And as we'll see how far you know disorders out of a mistake really. I just don't know how far the female family is. GonNa were GONNA take him. But he's listening also obviously a very very good horse and and and the thing that words which I had mentioned is that I don't know I don't know how long he can go cutting it as close as he does and I I know he's beaten some really good horses But I was surprised to see that in his last start is third with number actually regressed a couple of points with really Which really surprised me so sometimes you just don't know you know from a visual standpoint. I don't know if you go by anti capping with a horse like that. Because he does is his win just letting he has to do to win. And I don't think he's GonNa break and he's not gonNA break any track record is not going to be you by eight lengths. He's GonNa beat you to what he has to be you buy so so we'll see. I mean at one point that I thought he was his best. Who knows you know? You really can't tell. These three year olds full year. They're they're you know I've seen full baffert too. I mean the most astute training there is when it comes to evaluating zone horses but I you know. He's he gets fooled. We all get fooled developing right now. You don't know what's GONNA come up. Let's put it this way. I mean at this time last year justify it then run nobody. I know we know he was two years ago. I mean Yeah you know you. You don't know what he's GonNa come from a few years ago Always dreaming breaking his May Tampa and then winning an allowance ration- in slow in slow time and nobody gave him all of a sudden POPs up Robson to Florida Derby. You just don't know because these three rows day improve rapidly at this time of the year. So you're guessing you're trying to make you know you try to make a good observation. A good analysis from statistics speed figures. But I tell you I said these horses is young horses. They fool you. They popped up out of nowhere on that topic Steve. Let's actually transitioned from last week to tomorrow. And before we even get to the two divisions the risen star some thoughts about Governor Morris Tomorrow in a Tampa allowance for pleasure. And it's not just governor Morris. This is a this group of five. Yeah I think I think he's GonNa get an easy one here because originally he was talking about going in the southwest which is where I thought he was going I know pletcher likes to run. At Tampa. He Li- he runs a lot of horses at at at Tampere. Actually I thought he was going to run into the same Davis when I spoke to the stakes coordinator at Tampa. He was surprised that when he spoke to pletcher and Pletcher said he's not sending anybody so he was Kinda he was kinda shocked and anyone up instead of running. The Sam Davis which he belonged in that race for sure. He waits to run them. You know in an allowance race so I I don't know what you can make of that. Maybe he's thinking like after a four-month layoff where he wants to give it easier race. But if you do this what do you do them afterwards? You'd run them only one more time. He's you know he's he's gotta get points. You'RE GONNA rely on one race to get points if you run this race. Do you go back into Tampa Bay Derby. And then maybe running like the bluegrass stakes or would or one of those races or the Arkansas Derby Or view wait and go from this race into the Florida Derby. And if you do that then you got one more race and I you know again. We're dealing with horses. Going into the Derby from four starts five starts. You don't know what you have these horses so lightly race and so this you know if they're still immature and they have no experience. Listen lobbies trains kaput? Bottoming voice? Maverick puts bottom and org lexicon put vitamin A divorce. But does that rate racing experience that they lack. When you're going into all of a sudden you go from your you go from running in the mile and forty yard allowance race at Tampa and two races later running into twenty horsfield against nothing graded stakes winners with traffic and bumping and post one or post twenty or whatever. He sources aren't ready obviously. Somebody's GonNa win. Somebody's GonNa win the race and we saw what happened last year. You know he had a running sixteen thousand dollar claiming race and he beats voice that nobody paid any attention to country house. So it's it's it's it's crazy but as far as as far as governor Martinez. Listen I was a big fan of the horse when he broke his May. I thought he was extremely impressive. I just love the way did it. He did it. He did it so easily. An and overcame a bad start and just one all by himself and galloped out great. I'm not I thought it was a very very powerful for start And then he went and there was a slot so you know then he goes from five in here furlongs in two miles sixteenth grade one British thirty and I know he didn't get a good he got seventy eight buyers buyer actually went down And the graph remain the same. You ran boats. Both races were five on the third. We have you know which is good but nothing extraordinary. You know want to extraordinary use a two year old. You don't want these horses. Peaking too soon and The outside posted the resources. Thirty was five six wide going into the first turn. Wide The hallway Any hit the front to meet you too soon. And nobody really knew how good McAfee was before he knew it and actually it was all over him and and and and pulled away and I thought he was I thought he was game to hold off enforceable for For second but he he has bags been working great. He's he's had a couple of bullet workouts. Working steady like is Like his pedigree so I think he's a very talented horse. But you know what when you if you run into horse in the Sam Davis and you run second. Let's say the so lunt they all right. It's good I out not this race. It's got win and I noticed some good horses in here and then you know on on unless untitled is even better than we think he is and he could be very very good. You Know His horse that rob by eleven in his first start and gets a ninety eight buyer in first and then the swell was total. Throw out I mean how horrible breaking every got absolutely battered around at starting race and then made a move and then you know four. He just missed out on. I'm actually missed out on on second. He was He was in three-horse photo for second in that race So I thought I thought he ran. He ran huge. So you figure it's race now stretching out to to turn for the first time If you if he runs back to that To his first two starts you know he could get governor. Mars a little run for his money and then we have. You know another horse. And they'll let me know in Wilkes his Co. He's coming up. He hasn't run since era coy but before then he was kicked closing. The clouds finished fourth against Dennis's moment Which I thought. He ran an excellent race and race before that he was seconded. The Ellis Park Juvenile Rowdy. Choose a pretty good horse. Recently won the Riley hours or three thirty so we so it's not like he. He got beat by by nobody and plus. He's got another one in there. That you stretching out from Scranton. He actually debuted at Tampa Square An and an interface co Suny on I mean. There's certainly nothing wrong with him. Even running against excellent losses again. You Know He. He's running against Dennis's moment. He's been running against through your traffic. Who's a pretty good award? Who's coming back and running on Saturday? So you've been running against him. Some nice alerts. His last race was a decent third in a row company after he broke his vaguely. Churchill in the slop going a mile and it was actually a pretty strong pretty strong race to govern tomorrow To me you should 'cause I got like double size It couldn't untitled of beat them. Sure I mean titles a really a really nice voice but it's if governor Mars loses this race is a good chance. I might've just draw dropping depending what what happens. I might have to drop them from the top twelve but it's certainly have to be lowered because if you're going to run a horse in a race like this start out. They really have to win if you WANNA consider the most maternity ward. Because again he's going to have to start so I say okay fine. Let's see what happens in this race but you with pletcher doesn't like to run to To close together so he may only have one more start and if he does have one study better than this one. Yeah Great Great. Let's turn let's turn to Saturday and we'll talk fairgrounds. These two divisions unbelievable two divisions of tough tough races. I mean let's put it this way. He got the first three finishes of their Lecomte in one division. And that is not so sure. It's going South Division. I mean this this really nice horses in here some up and comers as well I mean you can go to go through the whole the whole field and you can start looking but again you got to like it a enforceable you gotta like Silver State and you gotta like a lot of noise misdemeanor Malloy. Reverses ran well last time so I don't see any reason why they shouldn't come back and run. Well I think they're interchangeable enforceable. Could certainly win again. Mr Monoploy you know he. He could certainly improve start and I thought he ran a very good race last time and still stay came out of it and it was closing really well when the stretch. He hasn't run a bad race in his three starts His main things is when we can wants to. You know pass horses you know. I could event heated He couldn't catch divorce in front of him next start. He couldn't catch stores in front of him in the nose necker island. Who's you know a decent any clothes? He couldn't couldn't couldn't catch enforceable so he's just showed he can actually catching pass awards but I think he do you to restore is all his. Yeah and to ask me. A- every week I'd say the same thing he's got to watch this coming out of the woodwork. He's got he's got seven horses again this weekend. We've got three. He's going to have to regain the South West. He's got one in each of these divisions he's Got Horse in Allowance Company He's he's he's absolutely loaded. He's got so many choices. What about what about Bret? Calhoun and Mr Thomas Thomas with three horses and the two divisions yeah. Yeah Yeah for sure but the thing is we haven't. I've I've touched somebody other good horses. We don't know how good is blackberry. Wine is is. I mean bradberry wine. He's last race. I thought it was it. Was it from end this race? You know he was out on the lead he got paid. He looked like he was dead. Heat in that in that race by digital. Who's WHO's WHO's Israeli. She's very very short in. Its own right and I just love the way he dug in and the way he He came back and won and not only came back in one. If you get attached to at the polls look totally beaten. But he won going away and actually galloped out really strong in that race and you know he's a county might horse Trained by JOE SHARP SON OF oxo which I find kind of interesting out of an AP Andy Mayor Never. He's never wanted to bad race. We don't we really don't know how good How good sources and I'll tell you another thing too by the way In in that last start where he came again defy the favorite night hoist. I finished third just a town. He's in an allowance race Early on the card and he two million New York Bread. They use a two million dollar. Two year olds and This gesture town was is meant to be a really good horse He could come out of here who you know smelling like roses when he wins this allowance. Race impressively He could he could certainly be something he also also he could also get beat by his stablemate. Romance Outbid experience you know but but but he's he's he's a very nice voice himself You know another one. I want to mention he he he he he tests the liner was on. Is this Farmington road that Pletcher has the thing I like about his last start He broke his maiden after had if raining. Second to Moon of Miami in these races on the stokes racist then comes back and wins and he gets you get two hundred hundred equities figure which is pretty good but but the second horse in that race can. I don't know what he was meeting. The second race finished seventeen accents and certainly even restricting three quarter length send third was so you know he was want to fly in there. I don't know what he's beat again. They got it. You got a good number. Lapente and eclipse and you know that that partnership so Young to see how good the good this is. I mean I like. I said you never know what he's horses they they they come out of the woodwork. And then you can't ignore of course on the outside scabbard already shown these doors you know he ran terrific second night thought degree like go in the Saratoga special. And then you. Even though Dennis's moment was eased in the in the Iroquois he had to. He had a ton of trouble that race and he was flying at the end. He was only beating the length of recorders excusing. You know and then. He was bit of a disappointment. Breeders Cup juvenile but he would save fourth and again. I'm not GonNa you know on that racetrack. Promotions just didn't handle it. I'm not going to condemn him and calmed again. You know you look at the thing you look at his line across you. Know he's fit by seven. You think so so again terrible trip. I mean he had he he had a steady and take back and come on again he was. He was a three to one favorite now race but I can certainly see him Certainly improving you know he goes. You know nothing wrong with Corey land. But he goes lottery to Joel. Rosario so You can't sort out. I think he's a really nice horse. I remember I remember seeing him when he broke his maiden I was very very impressed with him but I was at that. I was at the track when the green light go one and And I liked his race alive. That's when he had that horrible names Deuce that they had to change his name But and that's only the first division so you know so besides choices that mentioning and the first week finishes from the recount. Then you come to the then you come to the second division and you say well. I mean they're all good. Horses are in that division. So when you wind up with here you got ano- Ano- door coming in you know from From Golden Gate. Who's WHO's working really well and the key thing is you get blinkers and if ever a horse look like frank. Who's this horse if you look to races? And the Breeders Cup juvenile futurity. I mean he got he they. The jockey whipped bejesus out of him in there. I mean he. He had to ask him he would not pass storm the court and he and he would not pass thousand words they got these photos and both of them in both races. He had one. He looked like he was going to go by both those horses in both those races and refused to go buy them. And you look at it and say well. He's obviously a logical candidate for blinkers. So he's heartbreakers in the last few workouts and he's worked really well and I got I gotTa love the fact you know he he also gets his reo. You know which is which is huge. And I think I counted in the Breeders Cup I think he. He was whipped like seventeen times in that race and he's whip twenty times in the edlow south so we'll see what happens here. If if these blinkers help you know. He's probably the best horse on the card. I mean he's ready is rarely shown that but I mean we've got plenty of other horses here. You Know Liam's Lucky. Charms coming off a A brilliant race In the Pasco he stretching back out to to turn the only the only port he ran even though he was a well. Beaten third was when Cancer beat them by almost eleven links. Going amount of sixteenth in the in reality now only started around two turns and they went back to seven. Now he's going back to turn again but you know so. We'll see how far he can carry carry speed. But it's rationing Pasco. You know where he went in one twenty one and three one one going away beating a really really nice horse named Albert Park. Who's coming back? And he's running in Maryland Saturday in the miracle would any. He's he's a really really nice horse himself. Keep an eye on him And then we got the fourth place finisher in the lacob of cynic fears. Yeah he he was way too far out of it. You know. He's a war nighthorse and actually getting blinkers off. In his way. Soon I started his career. He did not wear blinkers and he won very impressively going to say five dollars and then unless to racist three races. He's closed really well but he was a big green obviously and he's got his head cocked and running so it gives the blankets off so I guess they want him to see as much as he can And I wouldn't be surprised to see him. I am running a big race. I think he's a really good horse. Getting outside helps you. Yeah for sure. Definitely yeah he's he's Kinda work you don't want on the inside. There's another horse that I've been touting since week one. I don't think he's quite ready to win a race like this. You know surprised. They would throw him in a maiden win. But it's what's made you get good inning. He didn't get good Misogamist numbers so you know you probably need this race but if you're looking for a horse to pick up a piece of it. I was very impressed. When he broke his maiden at fairgrounds I thought he looked really good in that race. I mean you know. He's ECO is ECO based level was ninety six. You know which is nothing new which is not nothing to sneeze at is certainly not not reflected poorly as numbers. But I think I think he could be a really nice source. I I'm curious to see what he does he also gets. Jackie Chan Gets Julian repre which I think will help him I mean somebody who else is you know you could go over every single one of these horses in New York. Are you a mailman? Money is is is undefeated. He's coming up really nice. Victory except rounds. It was an off the turf race but he won very easily going away and the mentioned earlier. This New York traffic that Saffy Joseph as As last rates between the impressive because during you one way to wire by by seven lengths and. I thought that was. I thought that was a very Very impressive race. So you know that was forced to turns and he had sprinted four times who so-so but he obviously appreciated the Stretch out to two sons and it's another another good New York right as well so I mean literally looked down twenty three horses in this race and you go down and make some kind of case. It's almost all of them to at least finish in the money. Somewhere to be part of part of the exotics. Somebody's listening. You just don't know how good they are and you don't know who's. GonNa who's GonNa pop up you know bill? The bill much got a got a cold. That look good You know it wasn't fast time but it was an accurate up. You know how slow Akwa doctors now for people making going a mile and as soon by wire Schwartz modern. She's an apple out of the eating there. Do we know how good is no? Do we know how good Jackson truculent no. We don't know how good he's either you know put the bloopers on took them back off any breaches maiden Again wide wire going away. I mean I don't know good luck betting race. I'll tell you both of these relations. Good luck that he should be. It should be a lot of fun and then like I said you got you got you got a chest the town running earlier on the card. You GotTa know that you know pretty high. On this sharecropper who was six hundred thousand dollars doing easing there and the and the and the and the AD mentions. We're not you know you want his only start again. We HAVE ANY CLUE. How good is no? I thought he was very impressive. Start you came from the base and And again won going away as you quite ready for this You know for some of these horses. It's possible grew. You know you just don't know it's GonNa be interesting so far South West on on Monday when you when you get all those Attribution or see how good that Gold Street is and there'll be a few other If you were decent sources in there I would prefer governor. Marris was in there to see what we have but You know you got shoplifted. Who you know. He's very good horse. Silver prospector when the Kentucky Jockey Club? He's a role own. Brad Cox I think has got was not. Yeah maybe to answer in and wells by you deal with water fly who American Butterfly. Who BROKE HIS MAIDEN NICELY? Saratoga rookie running back You know I'm the one who could be an interesting works. You know he won't listen. He won't big allowance race last time But you know even even in. I think they ran a mile in like one forty and change. But you know we don't know how good he is thought to me to be here. He's he's he's the. Let's go out there and steals the race. I I don't know if you will. And then some other courses would in there but But answering I loved his race in the springboard mile we had to alter course and went to the inside just got beat by shoplifting. And now he's got he's got a dynamite pedigree for distance and I think we're GonNa see big approved and so even though Rasmussen's got these three in there if I had I wouldn't be surprised if answering winds up being favourite overall all these horses go street probably is a good chance to be favored but watch out for For answering an a plus. He's got Case tracker we're bringing in instead of governor Mar. She was well. You know we we start. No they won't be but He was third in Renton. So we'll see Let's see what he does coming off of Coming off of that race. The thing about wealth by you by the way which I love is the fact that you know. Sometimes you see good pin hook and sometimes you see a corporate hook He he sold at Keeneland Sale January fifty thousand dollars repaid look back at keeneland September yourself. Eighteen thousand S so obviously He didn't progress much from January to September. And then put him back again the following year? When you go. Ps Much one hundred and five thousand. So you know which is which is not bad but you know when you were. Would you buy pay fifty thousand four horsemen wheel and back in the team and sale? You know you bring over eighteen. So it wasn't more successful should be a nice should be should be very nice Day Monday at at oaklawn looking forward to talking to hammer Tomorrow between the RAZORBACK South West and the by COA. And there's a lot of stars on that card including the motion emotion and more at the field and you got saw where Marcus Hirsch was watching. Warriors charge we talked to Marshal Graham over the weekend and warriors charge returns in the razorback angling toward the oaklawn handicap. And Marcus was a Gog. At how warriors charged look these? He said he might just Gallup all the way from from the hot springs. But that race is GONNA. That's a fun race. Snapper SINCLAIR PROVISO JOE VIA FOR GREG. Sacco rated R superstar Sadler's got campaign I guess I mean there's a lot of good good thing. Is You know we mentioned you three races like I said you also have the Miracle Word am some interesting horses in their service has got a horse for For Pat Chapman Talk about but we talked about him last week with John. Okay yeah yeah by almost fifteen ranks. I divorce I mentioned to you earlier. Albert Park. Was that an interesting career. Mr started off on the Pali. Track it At at Arlington and then he went to the synthetic synthetic press kyle He wins both of those races and then he shows up in the mail. A del Mar on the turf and then from there he goes to Tampa when second In the In in the Pasco and see his stable the Tampa and now he wants to open laurel if every even though we stable the Tampa so I find him an interesting race. New Commission is a really Nice Horse. I think it was second in the half stakes behind my Monday morning. Qb Who's a really nice source and then came back and you know. We had a pretty decent race in the winters. We've sift through the match player but Shut me miracle looks like a good race. You got the El Camino Real Derby Turf Paradise Derby. They're not going to produce any derby horses but they are three year old races. And then you gotTa look at those other races. It's the fairgrounds. We got the return of Hochberg Coventry. Andrew and Rachel Alexandra I mean you got two months to phillies in there that That you know could certainly have to look at them as a major factors Looking ahead to the to the oaks you know British idiom. You got to see a champion and Aron A. Breeders Cup whenever and you gotTa Neat. Steve Asmussen in the world's so I mean that's that's that that's going to be a good race to temporizing. We fly in at the end of that silver bullet. They you know so you know. He's just getting better and better So you know between that. And He's other rates the mineshaft and it's pretty right weekend. Great Day racing at fairgrounds. Now it's GonNa be terrific few days and it doesn't. It's not just Saturday between Sunday and Monday. And there's we're we're starting to really pick up some momentum. Steve were momentum's into a rich and visit rich standing by. So let's look forward to talking to next week. Do Some recapping and we also will be that much. Closer to the Fountain of Youth. Right found a youth on the twenty ninth. It's going to be huge. Anyone finding probably Dennis's moments return. There will be some really good horses in that race. Chances and Franchi how good he is. I mean it's funny. It's got tremendous H everybody's racist coming of Throng Yup very much very much and and you mentioned the girls race. It's amazing how each weekend the last three weeks we've had the emergence and convoy unbelievable of harbor. Venetian harbour Harvey's little oil to Razz. Every week there's been another major development on the oaks picture which looked pretty murky in December. We haven't even seen vast come back yet. Make her seasonal debut. So we're I think I think he's going to be interesting. I mean you know both of them you know that could be Super size the way they've been larvae. Harvey's little go go go back and watch that Buganda again. She's she's the goods. Nothing wrong with that And somebody's GONNA come out Rachel Alexandra. Andrew British it remained undefeated or these other local phillies. That have been running huge waiting. We're also waiting for my. You know talking about Harvey's a little boy we're also waiting for Lake Avenue to come back. There's there's a lot going on on the on the on the on the young DISTAFF FRONT. So let me get rich in here before we run out of racetrack already. Steve asking everybody. Derby Dylan's Derby dozen Derby Derby Ding dongs laird as. Let's finish this busy morning. It's been nonstop rich and standing by we had so much fun with rich rich Essentially the third co host of the triumvirate on Friday and Saturday particularly at NHCD.

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Part 1:Pete Fornatele

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Part 1:Pete Fornatele

"Sirius Xm ports presents with Steve. It hasn't been covering interviews. This is really stupid in very good Thursday race fans from my desk from home I eh think about it. I was lucky to get home. I this was. This was when it came came to the traveled portion. It was tough. It was tough we got. We got the guts to Chicago. Yesterday I even getting the the airport in Phoenix CENEX. Getting from Tucson to Phoenix. There was a terrible terrible accident. was that the five whatever that whatever that road was and I was lucky I had a little bit of a time window and then and then a a delay in Chicago. I didn't get to thirty so both was coming and going unbelievable but while I was everywhere I went whether it was low sal and and of course the the show week from tomorrow from Santa Anita that portion everything was really really fun and as always the time at University of Arizona at the symposium the enthusiasm of the students it eh boo. You're your own enthusiasm. And yesterday particularly before. And after Letcher and Bob Baffert had the their air their ninety minute conversation and then some interesting things came up out of it. We were on the air of course but the the kids kids watching them in a circle baffert and Fletcher and take pictures and ask questions. And and both todd and and Bob Baffert giving as much time as you know as the kids want it and You know they both have taken on. I know you know just from proximity to New York. Pletcher Barn have taken kids on as you know as interns during during their their mentoring periods. And you you also you also see them you know they. They've got the the mentor lunch. And you know. They get paired up with industry veterans Brinson in any area Not just not just. The training. Yesterday was heavily training because The the Matt O'Connor story is is really amazing that you know at his young age I mean he's going to step right out into it and and and be ready. It's obvious that he's got a plan and is very much prepared for getting started this winter suzie graduates coming week. So that part of it yesterday and then the sessions that I could not attend but certainly Louis. We had discussed with hammer his moderated panel with the Horse Players and Jonathan who we sat with on on Tuesday marshal. Graham added to that equation and and Pat Cummings and they they were very and I knew they were based on what hammer had you know you knew what they were going to kind of come out swinging and really challenge the game To be aggressive to be proactive to think try to think originally and in and do what what can be done. Some things are are more practical than others when it comes to the totes system and betting options. Actually we're going to talk to After the first break and I know that Marshall Marshall who visits with us all the time and whenever you know a there's a doesn't have to be reserved for specific ripped from today's headlines Conversation Station but a lot of times it is. I mean a lot of times it. Is You know areas. That Marshall's economic background and practice as an UNCON- professor that the industry is really welcomed. Marshall's inputs. And every time there's every he talked about this yesterday every time. There's a an important carryover particularly Nikola the pick fives which have become the you know the most active and and regular opportunities and of course the force outs the Jackpot. Four sats I always re tweet marshalls computation of of the players advantage. And anything that can be done and there were a couple of a couple of interesting proposals pat with his work with the thoroughbred idea foundation. Pat's been working all year on the breakage question and they they've couple of interesting wrinkles that have that have been generated about taking breakage thinking portions of breakage and and funneling it in to help neutralize takeout in spots and so some original thinking and you know then it's a question of trying to hammer was was stressing even before the panel. You know putting it into practice. You know. Every time back to Marshall's computation on player. Every time there is one that we I try to circulated out there so that people understand that you can price shop the you know the the sensitivities to to the takeout issue and Marshall said he didn't really want to stress again because very little movement in that arena. Seems seems like it's possible and and something thing that can be accomplished on a broad basis. Hey we brought this up with Canterbury the other day with Jonathan and hammer but every time time we can show that the player there's opportunities the players compounds you can. You can really pick your spots and and I. I think that after the good fall racing that we've had since even since Breeders Cup just these last five weeks I mean they're the did you see the numbers. The grant that a lot of it helped help the was helped by weather and bad weather last year. Better weather this fall but Ecuador fall was fifty percents outlandish and that the the reason it is was is because you know there there were opportunities and they were big full fields the a lot of turf racing and even the the main track racing was excellent if the product is good and the equations are acceptable. Players will respond. That's the that's the key message. And so you know the the talking to happen every single day at every single racetrack on every single race. I mean that that's a message. We try to drive home. But if you if you're I know certain people prefer to stay focused on a certain certain circuits but if you if you spin the dial and look around on a regular basis and are willing to try in some places that you don't necessarily Y- haven't necessarily played in the past you'll you'll find you'll find the opportunities bring the we didn't get a chance to talk to Ed last week. I bring it up with that roses for Ed pay for pants for gold and for those opportunities. I mean daily. He's always looking in far-flung you see him talking about far-flung opportunity crazy you know places that looking cranny racetracks as it were but if you look every day. That's one of the things about looking Mondays and Tuesdays. And these convert the conversations we had about press kyle over the over their season. You can find places that that I thought was one one of the big horse player panel discussion points that you know you should take away a couple of things that we didn't also didn't get a chance. It's the to discuss in advance. I mentioned yesterday when I saw Debbie Easter. Because at the end of yesterday Debbie and Frank Petra Malo from Virginia and Jill burn from colonial. They got to If you WANNA call it a victory lap okay I mean those of you that. Listen for the the five plus years to frank and to Debbie the work that went into breathing life back in Virginia should be. You know really applauded plot They just it's a a real nice success story and especially when you think about Virginia's contributions and as a breeding environment and then a breeding state that that has a storied worried history so the they called it a look at the rebirth of racing in Virginia and Jill burn is talked about how colonial management had the opportunity to really do it from scratch and so That included some safety and welfare initiatives that you know the Mike in the past might not have been part of of the planning and they. They spent extra. They spent quite a bit of the money that didn't necessarily expect to in that direction. But they had a you know a terrific initial meet and additional gaming centers Oteibi parlors in you know being read reestablished including Northern Virginia which has always been a marketplace that has been absent empty so they there was also the seminar. The A conversation about what the added television exposure is mm-hmm and we know we've discussed this on and on and a lot of times. People are quick to critique get togethers like this imposing like the roundtable et cetera. Well the added exposure that the game has received on television. A lot of what has happened. And and the the viewing hours and the viewing opportunity hours etc is exponential from you know less than ten years ago and of course Nyerere's work in particularly the Saratoga and they also you know the Belmont Belmont two times but all of that is an outgrowth of the jockey. Club's initial reaction to the McKinsey study and the establishment. Those just was two years. I think right two seasons the Jockey Club tour on Fox recall and that was that was enough that that was enough seed planting it to get To the next to the next layer the next level of of exposure and the the more racing the design. The way you know the way certainly the way Nyerere's shows are so at seventy percent. The country has access to those broadcasts and I mean every one of them is a Saturday. Show it's a Saturday production action so the work that goes into it is unbelievable and Tony Oliva was there from from neier but it benefits. Everybody nobody I mean if if People People Stumble into it. Even it's a positive. So that was one of the Wednesdays other discussions there was the equine population conversation. And that's something of course we you know we talk about there. There was regional representation and Jeff Can Izzo from New York and Todd Marsteller from Pennsylvania and Brian San Fratello. Of course you hear from On a regular basis you got a new. You got a new commercial but all of these topics and I know that and I know some people just love to love to ridicule every attempt to to broach these topics. But a UH I. I've gone to enough of these kinds of get togethers to know that and then you know the fact that we get the follow them up. You know in on a daily basis I I I see the positive results that come out of these kinds of discussions so I thank the Wendy Davison at everybody once again. I asked I asked the question I asked. Ask The question about whether this was the end of the year or the beginning of the next year and either way it's it's a great way to wrap up the the calendar year and and in some ways start the next and of course a lot of fun yesterday with the conversation with. That was a lot of fun. I think we got a lot of Nice Nice reaction. I've got quite a bit of of news. We're GONNA TALK TO P Tony Black our two and D Tony's perspective and again this. This is a topic that is fresh in the headlines. The Jackie Guild from their recent gathering they they feel like the advances in crops. This has been so significant in terms of the the benign safety few whips and they do not want it. The regulation the attempts the regulate croppies. Yeah Timbo be whittled down to the extent that the only time that they could use it as you know in the case of an emergency I it it very difficult New New Jersey and California pursuing legislative style regulation elation of crops and the the issue is that and from a visual standpoint. The critics this all comes down to how you want to respond to exterior critique people all that say oh if they really wanted to run and why do they get whipped chase. We'll let tony discuss it. Check in with Steve asking. Get some thoughts on all the two year old races that we previewed with Steve last week. A couple of other stories As well to weave into discussion that sort of were over on the side burner for a few days. While we were at Tucson mcdonagh Mope Dynamo passed and we gotta added gotTa talk about him because he was fabulous just spectacular twenty just twenty two actually which is senior age for horses is but they they can go into their thirties. That story about the force that was forty. Th that is forty go find that. Let's take a quick break. Pete starts US off at the raises BACO apple races with Steve on Sirius. XM radio it's agreed weekend. Day and night racing Louis L.. obidos racecourse the daytime. Winter thoroughbred meet wraps up with closing sectors Sunday December fifteenth and after thrilling wins the Bob Baffert trained duo of Baston thousand words. Get get ready for more top. Two year olds in action in the Soviet problem steaks on Saturday and the King Glorious stakes on Sunday plus don't forget the mandatory payouts for key wagers like the pick six players pick five super high five and more on closing gay looking to enjoy the races in style. 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That's a great band name write offs for that wondering there for my turntable and that parent loves it. Is it from last year or two years ago the JD McPherson record so yeah yeah yeah. Yeah it's well to walk. Great the title cut is amazing and she loves was that she's already informed me that we're playing that you know I do a little takeover a little friendly takeover of my dad's old radio show for twenty minutes or half an hour for every December and. Dj's with me. She's already informed me that Sox is going to be on there the miser brothers from the old from the stop by Ranking bath special. Whichever one that's from year without a Santa Claus I think that she's told me we're going to play that so she's she's slowly building or play with the she goes but I listened to that whole McPherson record today and my God if that doesn't get your toes tapping I don't know what will you know? It's funny ah I was looking for. I was looking for some new songs for this year to add. Although frankly we're getting to the point I think where we're we're not gonNA have any room to add anything anymore. But I saw a I saw a name. It just kind of thumbing through and now I'm going to now I'm going to have a hard time finding it But I saw somebody that had it seems to have a popping up on the Christmas searches on Youtube and I never notice the neighbor before and Lo and behold the other night on Monday in in Tucson we went on the the TACO tour bus and we ended up going. It was great we go. We ended up going downtown and to cap things off with a ice cream Taco which was very good. Because I can't shit about that. He will he will he. May he just moved to Arizona. Well the I should they. They had three different flavors. They had a mint one. They had a vanilla regular alert vanilla and a salted caramel and then either then dipped in chocolate. The the mint was dipped in white chocolate and the they were and they were exceptional. The cone itself was thin and crispy just great. But now I've gotta find this offer Britt next year just for the TACO. Well let me come through here. We go here we go all right. Here's what it was. This was Oh of course on this side of the on this side of the of the marquee. It didn't have it. I saw the name Pete of the somebody that that I'd never heard of an youtube. Reverend this is I'm just not finding it here. Had never heard of the guy I listened to a couple of Christmas cuts and frankly I wasn't crazy about it Here we go. I'm going to thumb through here. Bear with me. And we're downtown and low and behold behold the guy's name is on the marquee at the reality show well downtown and I I was sorta taken aback. I said this is crazy. I had never heard of this guy. And he's coming here. It is Reverend Horton Heat. Oh sure Reverend Horton. Heat is a rockabilly guy. I used to play on the radio. Steve Circa Nineteen Ninety You know he was. He was a bit of a in between you know obviously there was the original proper rockabilly era and then there was sort of that rockabilly psycho. Billy you know part part of the scene of the late eighties early nineties. He was an Avatar before it at then took another turn at some point in the nineties. But yeah he's a He's good man. I mean I I remember spending those records back in. WFAN P up when. I was in undergraduate new pulse for a couple of years before I transferred to Nyu. And why you did you get to go to the show. No it's not. It's not for a while then his it's I think in January and but I just was stunned that literally. We either either Sunday or earlier Monday. I I was poking around for more Christmas cuts and I listened to and they were good. God they were good. There's nothing really grabbed me to put into the rotation. Maybe I'll have to now but then I as somebody whose name I just hadn't I had not remembered it seeing and then hours later you're there he is on there is on the marquee. was like this is freaky reverend. Horton and I'll give you another one. One that that was that was funny. Last night flying back the request request went out on twitter from from Delta for Delta downs and I'm trying to think I suppose it was. I suppose it was done that that you know that asked about about a music act for Delta One of the nights that Delta has a kind of a party night short short and I was going to answer and the name popped in my head to give him an answer was was has a Kayak and the house rockers and then occurred to me that boy that has himself how old if not dead. And you know that it'd been years and years since I had seen them. I saw them at the jazz festival. So sure enough. I go to look them up. And they are long gone retired and several members of died however has a Cayenne himself. South had just been inducted a couple of weeks ago into a blues hall of Fame Pen. And if you've ever heard them unbelievable Mississippi Delta Blues Found Awesome. I know I know by name but not I don't know the material definitely check it out very funny Ed has a Kayak early was was has a guy and and It's just funny because what the search and they after one of the members I think after peewee died they they kind of stopped. Stop playing but if you seek out seek out some some some youtube and so forth and an eye music got caught in the house. Rockers when you go to the jazz festival at the fairgrounds and of course you can't go anymore because it's it's the last weekend of April the first weekend in the Bay and so I'm at Derby as after going twice in about five years in the late eighties early nineties. He's I I've never been back but it's it's one of the greatest times to go to New Orleans and It it it certainly a good the use of the fairgrounds off season have you been. I've never been to a jazz fest now I I mean I guess it until the schedule changes again. I don't think we'll be going man. I guess it could be fun one year to deter me in New Orleans but I bet they have a pretty good time down. There could go the weekend before you could go the last weekend you in April true. That's a that's an opportunity But it it is amazing. They fill up. They fill up the the fairgrounds the infield and beyond with tents and each tent is a certain musical genre and all weekend weekend both weekends long. Just that's where in the Delta Blues Tent as where I I saw I saw has a guy in the house rockers. Had to be eighty the eighty nine or ninety one ninety one nine thousand nine hundred ninety. I saw them saw sawed. Ah Miami sound machine. They were they were one of the headliners Just great and so many I mean I I should. They should pull out that program. I probably didn't remember all the ones I saw. It was great. It's fabulous good stuff any Any Christmas tunes by has the conyers on that. Then that is that might be worth seeking. That's a good idea I will. I'll see if I can't find a a Christmas cutter too. I I the you you were. You were on hand. You're on hand you know by virtue of of Marshall and Jonathan The thin and our conversation Jonathan Sat with the with the Rick and I the other day and it was great. got into some really really good material made some really good points about about where we are and it sounds like that's been. There's been a lot of that coming out of the conference this year. I wish I wish wish there was a a an easier way to follow all the stop from afar. I mean firing King Matt Hegarty. They're doing great jobs on twitter. Keeping people somewhat informed of the topics optics but it sounds like there's been a lot of good meat on the bone for discussion as always. And you know I know there's you know there's a certain brand of observer that it is just going to pan anything that anything like Lauren. Happy author miserable. Let's face it well it it. It's what what's unusual about those critiques. Is that it it. They're generally. I mean there's certain topics that that are gonNA come up that that aren't immediately Veasley can't be immediately addressed a and and our systemic issues and so it's tough to move the needle on some of the topics that are that are most often discussed Austin and seemed to so regularly not have the solutions or or activity but much like this whole injury and fatality discussion. It can't be viewed all of the a lot of these topics can't be viewed through a rifle scope i. It can't be looked at it. It as a single view of a calendar date. It it it has to be a a horizon and and it has to be understood over over a period of time and you know one of the real negative side effects x of this social media landscape is that everything is is. Writing is instantaneous. And A and the there's there's no value of of extended comprehension and appreciating in the wider scope Over a period of time. Yeah Yeah. It's a problem of the travel. You can't solve systemic problems. He jerk reaction in having research and integrated plans to take place over a long period of time. You know it's tough. It's an instant gratification world. It's an echo at p. l.. VR Too long didn't read world where people people to look at things from a from a very high level. And you know people want you to stick to a certain character count and a lot of the problems that's been been discussed at the at the symposium in it. I heard the guys talking about the other day. I hear about on on your show frequently when you have industry people on these things that are going to. They're going to take time. I'm and I'm a big believer and I know J. K.. Believes this to that. It's much easier to affect change from from the inside As as opposed to just like lobbing rocks from the outside. Look I don't even mind the lobbing rocks from the outside. Sometimes I mean hey if nothing else I feel like some of the stuff that some folks say on twitter whatever makes our opinions seem that much more palatable and reasonable and our goals much more manageable. But I'm a big believer so that we can work within the system and accomplish some things that are going to change the game in house away but if boy I mean it takes time and it takes more time even I knew it was gonNA take time going in with some of the stuff we've been trying to accomplish and it takes an even longer time than that but it's a it's a trajectory that tending towards the ability to make positive change so my thought is stick with it keep grinding work harder come up with better ideas and and hopefully we'll get somewhere at some non-point agreed you know there's also there's also the wchs the desires or the you know the I don't I don't WANNA say self interested elements I moderated those back to back panels on surfaces and we did the dirt and then Michael Dickinson came up to to do the synthetic cab and Dickinson to to me and I've tried to do this with yesterday. He you know talking to him as frequently like hurting a cat and you know you shake the bag of treats and th that that gets them to you but then you know ah he he is. You WanNa talk about a whirling dervish. You should all my God. You should yesterday was unbelievable. I kept telling him for three days. You know I want you to sit down and talk. And we'll flesh out some more of the things about the surface of the Topeka but he wanted yesterday Saturday. He wanted to catch baffert after BAFFERT's session with with Todd pletcher. And so while I'm I'm running out. I'm running out of racetrack. Finish up you know whatever. The must've been ten o'clock. So yes coming up then. And he's watching Baffert and so he's tough to talk to because he's looking in two different directions for which way it's going to come out of the ballroom but and then finally it's funny any as we wrapped up then right when we wrapped up baffert came out it so he got a great picture of him. Show him showing Baffert that Cepeda because is he thinks that because Baffert has been hesitant to endorse what what feels like a return to synthetics in California. That's pending he. Wanted to really show baffert and I don't blame him. You know what what his changed. And what could you know why it would be good to get behind. The what feels like a movement Dickinson wouldn't talk specifically but they are in Avi. Obviously there in discussion about the potential of putting to Peter Down it's Anthony to the the critique that bothers me a that that that he used the other day in our session Asia where he said dirt has had thousands of years to and. Why do we have to give dirt anymore chances? WHOA WHOA WHOA? Oh woman by that easy for starters it we've really only gotten into this in the last you know very quietly. I mean. We probably didn't know it but people like Mick Peterson were were working. On the science of main tracks and turf courses. They were working on it. We just didn't know about it and it's only in these recent years when again we've only started to really track injuries and fatalities. This is one of the great ironies of of the industry. Being critiqued for all anybody knows. We've got a terrific story. Tell that thirty years ago there were way more breakdowns and fatalities than there are now but nobody was really paying close attention to that so now we are world all right so for them to be indicting dirt surfaces. Dirt's had its time and we don't need to keep Whoa Ooh hold on. That's just preposterous doubt for you about this team when you when you go ahead what. It's so funny when you look at numbers and people I'm not let me just start off by saying I'm not anti anti synthetic person. I think it very well could have a positive role in the game. If not not just hotshot it and rolled out in in a smart and cohesive plan horsemen are on board with but people talk about Oh the stats are so much better. Her you know the the the numbers don't lie so much better you know right now. Ninety nine point eight three percent of our our races are run without incident. And since gets that number two you know ninety nine point nine or whatever whatever like in the big picture of life. I just don't think it's quite as big a deal as some of these folks think it is and I don't think it'll satisfy or harshest critics the way that they I think it will but at the same time like I said I'm all for putting together a a smart plan and one that could be part of the overall. Pr Initiatives that we need to justify and explain our existence in the in the wider culture So some of the that that thing about dirt habits day had a chance. That's that's compelling arguments with attic and integrating it in some way shape or form that the argument grom an argument and there were there are a few of these discussion. The points Tony Black will join us in ten twelve minutes and and I'm going to let Tony riff again not that we haven't discussed it. But but the the the whole the whole riding crop Conversation and to some degree even the license to the player response to this and and you know how do we. How do we adjust? I guess he could fold surfaces in his. Well how do you you adjust your play. And how off pudding or you know how much influence are are these various USA questions going to be you know to how often how often we play. And how we how we adjust our play Jerry Jerry Brown wrote that piece at td probably now. It's probably almost a month ago about you know the volatility of abandoning lasix. And you know the idea. The idea That doing that is going to encourage more horse. Play is just and and we can point to the steroid discussion. Oh players if we get rid of steroids players will they'll they'll they'll they'll respond now. The nobody cared and my change horse players behavior. I mean I get I making some sort of commonsense reforms to medication in the whip as part for larger PR initiative. That way downwind could help handle but first players are not not one worth players changing their action because of because of lasix or or or steroids synthetic is maybe a different question. 'cause it a fundamental different game but I'm very much with you about about that. Not Moving the needle in the short term force buyers and I guess I guess the the the whip the whip is really a central topic for the for the riders. But I can guarantee you that You know if if crop uses is regulated. You know to the extent that it can only be used for emergency purposes in case of emergency break glass a the minute of intended consequences minded soon as you say that and I think we saw some examples of it already in California Shrewd observers might've noticed some examples of what we're intimating in California already. Isn't there a happy medium. Isn't there a common sense thing. We educate people about the cushion wigs to show that they're not cruel and then to manage the aesthetics of it. You may be limit blows and make sure the riders give a horse a chance to respond in the current climate. You can't have guys going over and over immediately really in the to the whip in the stretch on these on the beaten horses I. It looks horn this but I mean chrome incensed and with us There's got to be rules that riders would be down with an education to the public about what it's really doing or in this case hopefully not doing to horses like I think there's a smart solution. I think it's right in front of us and not getting rid of it completely. Well a lot of you've I I to me. The discussions are always provocative and and they're they're productive if at the at at their absolute lease they they get people thinking and talking and and you know even if even if some people respond negatively to the the whole concept of these discussions. You know I it still provokes provokes thought and and you know hopefully some cases proactiv proactive. Change proactively let's. Let's take a look at Pete what What went on this week? I've been a little. I was obviously a little little distracted by being out West but big story naira naira pets contests Marshal Graham. I am laying in exactly in the last race. I keep thinking about it and I really feel. It was such a smart play that he made knowing he was going to get fourteen for two and pushing all in on the obvious Two sources in the race and the more I think about it. I wonder if the fact that it was a contest and there. There's so many other people shooting in that race playing who needed to make more money to get up to the top if they weren't Inflating hintz price on the exact. It's another effect of contests I love to study at some point is what do they do positive to the overall all wagering pool by just all the money that's being bat now in the last race of a contest what what sort of opportunities does that create for the for the rank and file or player I I think I think marshalls that there is evidence that it it can be a super positive thing for the overall Pool Marshall Ends ends up with five thousand one hundred and forty eight dollars. He took home another thirteen and cash on top of that. Michael Webb who I believe is an operations listener. I know he's in the money podcast listener. Who have been in touch with on twitter? He runs second with four thousand dollars. Dennis Montereau Pasini contest winner. Runs third with twenty twenty eight hundred Rodney Kumasi name. I don't know fourth with nine hundred forty three and then rounding out the top five don chunk white met a few years ago when he won the Woodbine Mile Day contest. One of the one of my favorite annual events always fun to be up in Toronto in September. Don One that one three years ago now finishes finishes fifth that Naira with seven hundred twenty one excited to talk to naira about what their plans are going to be going forward. I like this model of having the seeded prize pool. They put ten thousand in. And if you look at if you make a good estimate of the money that would have been churned. It ends up being positive expectation this naira Rebecca contest. Not just because all the money in the that gets put up his entry fee comes back the players but because those the reduced the takeout no catch reduced to essentially zero in aggregate because of the ten thousand dollars that night or put in to see the pot so it's a cool model and I'm curious to see what they decide had to do with that going forward and now in contests terms Steve. I feel like it's kind of a dead run to the NHCD. I gotta get on it. I got a book my ticket to Vegas so I gotTa make dinner reservations a lot to do well. And there's still there's still time and of course Other than I suppose and Christmas is mid week. So it shouldn't it shouldn't impact the the scheduling at all and with Santa Anita opening on the twenty sixth. Obviously the big the big target on the on the back. But there's a lot going on. Actually low sow again This weekend to On Saturday and that's Nice opportunity one at Club Hawthorn as well L. Prospect Heights. There's one seat this weekend in Chicago. And of course online horse tornadoes and and horse players DOT COM. And I don't on Sunday I don't think there's nothing live on Sunday. But then next week fairgrounds as got a couple they got the super qualifier. That's coming up. And that's on their on their card that that Mark Hirsch refuses to say Super Santa Saturday. maybe laugh the other day. You've got super qualifier coming up on the twenty eight online Horse players has got an eight seat Saturday on the twenty eighth. So there's there's a lot there's probably close to three dozen chairs that are going to be accounted for over the next three weeks and I should mention. I had lunch with With Keith gambling and that came what was that that must've been on to of losing track days Tuesday. The bally's situation relation is going to be very interesting and tell well the ballroom that will host the NHA say fits three thousand so for the first time in memory everybody will will be in one room and not only. Will everyone be in one room. There's room for friends and spouses great so it should be it should be. I mean I guess some people would say well bigger is not always better. I gotta feeling they ETA feeling this is going to be well received I. I'm sure some people like you know the intimate and and being often in the in the sub no sub rooms and so forth but Yeah I think this is going to be very during during a mandatory race. The way that room you know we get a price in and we see people going nuts. It's going to be so much on. I love that. ID and end. Yeah it makes me think straight away from our broadcasting point of view just I think that's GONNA help us tremendously. Be Able to track down. And maybe do some more periscope type stuff as auxiliary content I'm looking forward to it. I'm always amazed and pleased every year when people who play in the context. Go back with it to to all those the replays of all the hours. That's such a nice compliment to us and looking forward to hopefully creating more great content out there this year and feels like the roster of gas just keeps keeps getting better and better and I do think I just think in terms of the VIBE. I agree like if I were a player. I probably wouldn't like honestly I I I would have loved the idea of being Caroline the sports book and doing my own thing but I I would happily accept that You know being having everybody in one room is just the right thing for an event like this. I think everybody can understand that and I it's I I can't wait I it's GonNa be it's GonNa be fun and I'm looking forward to seeing a bunch of people that I only see about once a year so this is it. I gotta get on. I gotTa they get on my horse and get the plans made the holidays. have been sort of all encompassing at this point. It's time to start thinking about early next year as well. Well I was this On the flight back yesterday actually I was I was doing some reservation. Type work When it came to the travel and It's it's It's around the corner whenever we get to this and of course we'll be next week as essentially we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA broadcast up to the twenty third it because the Santa Anita Opening Day card is being drawn on the twenty first so we walked. You should yeah ask so we the people will you know the players will have a nice five day lead in but will will broadcast on the twenty third as the last show of the year. But you know once we get that and then you know it just was launch pad essentially off off off. We go into Into the new year exciting stuff. Wow you've been doing a great job out there and really enjoying what I've been hearing. I'm looking forward to grown grown over to Steve. Big Dot Com podcasting. The rest of it. I think I'm going to save re listening to the music show for Christmas Eve or Christmas. Day I'm excited to do that. Two and we'll get a chance to talk next week and talk about what happened in the world of contests and whatever other you know. Probably some Christmas music stuff Yeah we'll get like last year right. We each each came up with a cut. I think last year. Yes that's what we'll do a a new one. I can't remember what were the rules. Yeah it's gotTa be one that we haven't either either played or yeah I it should be something something something different something new all right looking forward to it. I'll get working on that too looms baldly Pete for into town everybody and the in the money players podcast with J. K.. Who is everywhere everywhere at once? I saw him on a football field last week. And these these all over. We're the place. There's a great. Did you see the picture by the way in blood horse in blood horse daily or whatever the came out last night you know you get those those trade emails. I haven't seen the picture though. Yeah what the picture is a riot. It's a picture they took they take from down below the stage and it's of the panel table and so there's hammer and there's pat and and Marshall and then there's Jonathan leaning on his elbow like he does with his head cocked. You know with that with that. Like Dennis the menace. uh-huh it's the gator. Look on his face and it's made me laugh immediately because that that's what he's that's what he's terrific with is just being being a catalyst and and you know and just kind of lighting your he. He he's got Mr in his mind. John Jonathan is is is the guy that had he been a baseball player he he then a guy in this still goes on that would that would light hot feet. That would do hotfooting. Keep you on your toes right. He he he would be that that that that's still a thing in in baseball in the minor. Says they do that. Still I think you know shaving cream and the shaving cream. The boot in the cleats. And they do out of the Jacksonville at the Jacksonville. It all the time but yeah sure that hit the first. Uh maybe when we have a new guest on the show or something we can do shave higher something perfect for salary pay. Hey talk text week. Pete for an Ital- let's take a break top of the hour and speaking of Jackson. Maybe Tony Tony Tony's talk about about the about the pranks that they pull on each other. I WANNA tonita again to. We've done it. So many times with his whip discussion are we still allowed to call them. Whips we'll see what's out he's thoughts are when we come back Steve asking they had later. WanNa get the rich Jiang rich wrote an interesting piece in his. APR column. I read on the flight Yesterday I saw that he tweeted the link about you know when is is Churchill going to break into the Vegas market place. WHO's interesting question? That will get one more visit it too. I also want to get an mkx. Dynamo Dynamo I I I want. I should have actually with Pete. Pete loves you know Pete. 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Radio YOU'RE GONNA love it and that's <hes> Mikey guarantee must be eighteen years or older in twenty one years old and certain states open an account with express bet state research activities legal void where prohibited national gambling support line eight hundred five to two forty seven hundred breaking down the biggest stories in the world of horse racing. This is at the races with Steve BIC on Sirius X._M.. Radio I saw ty was mall came name round to show me it was you couldn't be no seem eighteen any stop them with use ally. The conversation has run dry. That's what's going on on. This is how it all it again. I can see them. We're back at the races James T. w. view for those of you are hearing that for the first time guest his cover of torn and he's He's like twenty one rob this kid big talent and in fact. It's funny because the other day Tina team has got the she's got the little <hes> what what is the is it a is it google. What does she call it? What what are you when you talk to the when you talk to the little robot thing? I think it's the she's got. I think we've got the Google I think <hes> Zachary gave us the Google on Alexa Alexa. I don't think we've got Alexa. I think I think she I think she says Google Right. Is that yeah okay so team has got a little table top one and then plays music or does whatever I don't know. I haven't asked that to do anything but Tina was looking for. She wanted to play a station or play a certain style of music and I forget what artists she asked for. She had a google play. Whoever and Google couldn't bad just couldn't figure out what she was asking for couldn't find the artists and so I said to Tina I said ask it the play James T. W. and so it said you know here's an recognized James T. W. and it said you know here's a a youtube station based on James W and and it was great? Tina was like Oh my God. This was really good like an hour later. She said that was that was a great choice. So James T W and it's funny because somebody asked me on twitter last month or when I played it the WHO is that and so I used his his twitter moniker and he responded <hes> <hes> which was great you know he's he's getting big but he's obviously not so big that you know that he doesn't he's twenty one tweet tweet atom tweeted James T. W.. <hes> the T. W. stands for Taylor Watts. I just looked up and he is twenty. One twenty one years old so really really good kids at talent. Seth Marrow will join us at some point here. We don't have yet actually it opens up a window for me to do something because I didn't get a chance. There were still tons of things that we didn't cover from the weekend and that includes the rest of the prairie meadows action and for whatever reason you know the the sprint the Iowa sprint which for many years coach Jimmy Lee would win every year scratch down to three horses though there were a bunch of of kind of cross entries and nobody really showed up and ended up being a three-horse race which was strange and share the upside the ellendale favorite she got beat. He got beaten. I should okay and director for Federico. VILLAFRANCA and Danny Caldwell ended up being a pretty you know pretty dominant winter to to start things off in the Iowa festival of racing and in the Iowa Oaks Lady Apple even money and she basically vied for favouritism and then vied for the victory with Valley Brad Kocsis and Cheyenne the stables and in Phoenix and Katie rich with lady Apple Ricardo Santana junior the curl in philly out of Miss Mary apples and happens to be Katie. Rich Own bread and Phoenix INEX- is involvement in you know she was of course third in the Kentucky Oaks so we'll we'll see we'll see what the Asmussen Barn. I imagine that they've got to give serious consideration. She got an eighty seven buyer but you gotta think that bring Curtis Saratoga is in the cards and I you heard me hint at the disqualification in the Derby and the Iowa Derby and I was going to go back and re watch the <hes> the replay a few times on. I didn't get a chance to do that but I just based on the two viewings and and the stewards reviewed tape that you see when they do the the replay they took down winning number and. And I feel terrible for Eddie Martin Junior to have a win like this taken from him and and of course <hes> from the ownership not just Eddie but a James spry and this is a spice down Colt that was making a third start was to for to coming in hadn't faced stakes debut and I I don't see where winning number Cutoff Shang and to the extent that needed to be that he needed to be taken down it looked to me like Martin had position held position and you know just because somebody is testing a you know a coming up the rail since when our jocks where there's posted to give room and let somebody pass you up the inside. Go back and face the owner and the trainer I if you do that I I'm sorry I don't get this one. I didn't see as much consternation Asian over it as an I did see a couple of things but I didn't really read any threads about it but I I didn't see it live. I only saw it the next day but I didn't really understand why winning number have to come down. Have what it did was elevate top line growth into the into the win into the Iowa Derby Win Kelly ruling and Mr Grant is actually a elks known home-bred by tap czar Maryland bred to and now three for four with <hes> with that win Sir Anthony and congratulations to Anthony Mitchell and the auto stables team and Family Sir Anthony at a fat eight and a half to one eight hundred eighty two win the corn husker. There's always a fund and it's always the cornhuskers great the cornhuskers orange one of my favorite <hes> sort of mid America standards and of course raised that born and raised at carbon and then I found a home at Altoona at Prairie Meadows Sarangani and Patriot cotto junior nice nice win for him nice great three for Cotto dark vader actually second year for Peter Burton and and <hes> remembering Rita who's funny remembering Rita is five and it feels it feels to me like remembering read has been around forever Doug Anderson and was the nineteenth start at the age of five spring last remembering reader so that was Friday night and then on Saturday in the Iowa Festival of racing they slipped in the the I were bred action and including the Hawkeyes my woman from Tokyo Kelly von email this Christine Reiner and Crimson King Farm Crew Crimson King bread this one a Nico Bay tenth career win made over half a million dollars a six year old mare she wins the hawkeyes and who's aboard here. Let me turn back to this. <hes> Glenn Corbett gets the Win Canto Hill on net gain to win the cyclones include gelding seven-year-old last I win in here and a bit of an upset three to one you had hence the the Kendall Hansen home-bred actually not a home bred actually bred by Alan poindexter but a Hanson I this is a horse of course that <hes> we saw the two years ago at three <hes> was you know made made some made some little bit annoys on the three year old seen <hes> Han sensed it but this was <hes> Clinton Stewart for claim to fame stables net gain and you had the sailor Ville the six furlong for the phillies and mayors double down Jimmy Devito. You can't run an Iowa festival of racing without a Jimmy Devito win coach. Jimmy Lee one of our absolute all time favorites and in the Iowa distaff Moonlit Garden Brad Cox for Tracy marks the Malibu Moon five year old Mare and she was even money and this one somewhat never in doubt really Alex get Jerry by the way was on Shanghai tariff the Shanghai Bobby Philly for Devito and double down so there's your your Iowa festival a racing. We can put away that one and let let's see what else I have. Marley's freedom I didn't mention the Great Lady M and of course today they'll draw the low sal derby potential apparently for Omaha beach maybe so we'll see about that and Marley's freedom though at sixty fifty cents on the dollar with Raden van Dyke last seen of course in the humanities staff and I imagine that Baffert has gotta think Ballerina right with Marley's freedom so we'll see about that how `bout <hes> what else Pleasanton I. I don't want to skip over the performance by victory rose. Thoroughbreds home-bred bulletproof won one winner in the Everett Nevin. This is the cow bred two year olds five and a half furlongs hundred thousand dollars at Pleasanton and in a romp bulletproof one and I actually got to go back and see what kind of figures because that race had not received a figure but we'll see about pleasant <hes> about bulletproof one. WHO's an idiot proof philly that I was home bred by victory rose out of the car cheer you also had <hes> we talked about the one stake at parks with John Service obviously and the lighted for for will l. and we'll Schwartz and his partner but <hes> how about Christoph Lamont pure sensation the eight year old wins the park Stash Paco Lopez aboard? If you didn't see this one <hes> this one also also was really never in doubt <hes> the the disconcerting performance vision perfect as I don't know <hes> vision perfect has had three and modest efforts so far this year chased him premise at the beginning of the year in Florida but now back to back <hes> off efforts so we'll see what Chris <hes> what he's going to do to or actually vision perfect <hes> at <hes> with Jason Service I mean that Chris Chris <hes> Christoph with Pearson station for the generosity and even going back a little further. I do want to mention because I didn't get a chance <hes> we haven't talked Michelle voice in a long time and she had a nice win a big price. My murdy won the Chicago Handicap back at the last weekend in June and congratulations a magnet graduate than Illinois Bread seven-year-old my murdy that very cool beat Hotshot Anna who was three to five yeah. This is very cool. I God I wish kind of that. I'd been on last week takes graded stake shot with my murdy at age seven and wins the Chicago Handicap Nice and what else they get the. I don't think I did this either Churchill. Let's get the Churchill in from closing weekend when I wasn't around Phantom boss George Paraffin came in from California and wins Windsor the Bashford how about that from the Rail Raphael Bejarano Shackelford <hes> Colt broke his maiden against the cow breads at Santa Anita going four and a half and this of course <hes> was six and Phantom boss very nice seventy buyer in here so that's a nice win for paraffin out of town and Rafi coming home to. To Louisville you also had magic dance for ask me sin three chimneys home-bred. There's magic dance won the debutante. We'll see what's next there. What kind of figured that get <hes> you're asking they can't <hes> seventy six so the philly outperformed the the boy and the Kelly's landing as well? It's clear this from the Desk Line Judge for Peter Miller Peter Miller after an extended ended period <hes> finally kind of woke up Peter about I don't know five or six wins over about a ten day period after the long cold snap and also I should mention <hes> in fact that that same day a winner for Miller and the Serene family the seven year old veteran nice performance in a in a rich allowance as well <hes> Los out now. Let me get that one in Queen B._T._U.. Andrew Learner for Christopher Saint Hilaire and Adam Vail make it Adam Valley. Excuse me but the Queen B._T._U.. The five year old one Bertrando opening weekend at Los out horse that <hes> spy originally a tiny town bread an old topper. They're up by a nose at eleven to one and that was with right for what these so. That's that's a lot of it. I think I think that Oh also one more before we go to seth <hes> we'll take a we'll. Take a break probably the bottom of the hour and go to set but I wanted to get these in. It's not people like to hear especially if you know if you look forward to hearing your your your name if if you're involved in these horses but how about the speed right we didn't get the summit of speed results and the Princess Rooney stormy embrace talk about hard hitting mayors she was going to be a short price in their Wilma Garcia <hes> one of our favorites wilmer had that great summer up here at Saratoga and then he had the the car accident going to penn national one night and in really interrupted what felt like a you know some momentum in his career but <hes> stormy armie embrace for the Matt alona thoroughbreds people the Mayor by circular key home-bred and Nice Win Nice win and that was coming out of the crap out of the musical romance so the great to Princess Rooney and you also had the smile and that night source of Patrick being cones and the diamond racing people Patrick <hes> really is a nice thing going doing with them and if they steady diet of some nice sources but in the smile the grade three diamond oops with Jillian let Peru it was coming out of that try and the diaper went back to dirt to win the smile and <music> a little bit of an upset there little bit Jalen journey who then turned around and went through the the ring and was the sale topper <hes> the other day <hes> Monday and the racing age sale <hes> he also had to carry back which is no longer graded three year old boys and take command in here for Terry Pompeii and tropic lightning racing this was bred by our friend Ed Seltzer originally and take command now three for seven and might be a horse horse heading somewhere eighty nine Byron here by Field Commission and it's my lucky charm won the Kailua Eddie police for Lori and in it's my lucky day for your old or actually three year old I should say the course for three year old fillies and finally lady's island for the Matisse and rich April team and and <hes> Georgina Baxter and of course pay any price <hes> this is a this is now a female version it seems of pay any price so congratulations <hes> the team Matisse and rich catch and they'll they'll be ready to go tomorrow the picnic table in the back corner by the big red spray very nice and ladies. I pay any price originally was entered in here but <unk> Butt scratched and wins the Bobbi Humphrey Turf Sprint so is that that that's the lion share we talk Jay walk from the Delaware Oaks in the Robert Dick. Uh I do want to talk to in Wilkes because you know gentle ruler a winner in the in the Robert Dick but I told you at the beginning of the show neck and neck very sadly had to be <hes> euthanized in Indiana and Agia ten and is just getting started. There's going to be the one crop <hes> e- add he'd had a nice reception in Indiana and they feel very badly for everybody involved breakaway farm and they were very very excited and of course you'll remember the dentist Farkas Yeah we talked about neck and neck when when Denison any were you know having real you know a nice run with him. Mary sorry about that so we'll talk to eat at some point about it but <hes> in did have <hes> and son-in-law Sunday lockers Landeros who rich or he's going to handle <hes> as Jack Agent but gentle ruler Colonel John Philly wins the Robert Dick that eons streaking four straight now Arnaud Delacour Trevor McCarthy aboard and Delcor. We're also won the Cape Henlopen with cancer and also got a mention Dr Blarney followed up his Suffolk win came right back on on you know modest rest and wins the Carl L. Hanford and if you didn't see the little note that <hes> was was really I kinda fun this. This was a one of those tidbits and I'm not sure when Jessica Chapel when she got it but she made the great connection to Dr Blarney and <hes> you know Joe Rico the Massachusetts Bread winning the Hanford and Jessica pulled out tidbit that Carl Hanford long before he started training when he rode road the first winner ever at Suffolk about that for full circle unbelievable aw crazy that was. I thought that was bribery tweeted that was that was an amazing tidbit. Let's take a break bottom of the hour. I wanted to get those results in and we come back Seth Mero and Seth Nile kick off the the Saratoga seasonal everything see what seth has to say and of course we started with loose on the lead on Sunday kind of working out the technical kinks on the set for capital TV. Maybe saw John Singer from Capitol yesterday at the eighteen sixty three opening take a quick time out Seth Barrow when we come back at the races with Steve on Sirius X._M.. Radio Five years at the forefront of sports technology stats provides next generation sports content for basketball baseball football soccer and now stats is turning it cites or three six bracelets is the most in-depth product on the market with innovative analytics powered by data from applebee's. 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Summit must be eighteen or older in twenty one states Oakland County spent resigned the state where such activities activities legal void where prohibited National Gaming Support Line eight hundred five hundred forty seven hundred and we're back at the races the hour and Seth Marrow Standing by jungle boy himself Sascha morning the morning live from the backstretch morning here at Saratoga Nice Nice so you're sitting there handicapping <hes> probably Fridays card. I put it out Friday but that's the game plan for when I get off the air with you so you so you have done you have done tomorrow though I have done to my all absolutely nice all right good so here's here's what we're GONNA do. We'll do a little bit of <hes> you know. Bang the Gong around and talk about the meat and then we'll head cap tomorrow's card excellent all right then I was surprised yesterday. I thought maybe I would see you at the at the eighteen sixty three kickoff. I was dying to go 'cause I'm dying to see the inside of that late. I was at a few Seminar Times Union seminar. That's right. That's right yeah yeah yeah with <hes> N._F._l.. I could have I could've easily it could have easily been at the eighteen sixty three because it was a the seminar was <hes> Migliori. Larry Calm is <hes> Dale Romans Eric Geo and then I was betting Clinton I was GonNa say it was batting cleanup that would that would be good. That would be the power hitter batting last. I was ninth in the order literally came up at the end and add like a three minute spiel made a couple of picks and that was it so yeah I could definitely up gone over and taking a look at the building building that was would have been the preferred after no but I am not to take anything away from the seminar which was well attended. It was very entertaining and it's just the you know you had all the storytellers up there. They didn't need me to participate but <hes> the folks in the audience that's why I say very well attended people looking forward to the meat and they enjoyed guilloux Romans calmness and make Laurie Nice well then I will only little only tell you that you're are gonNA be suitably impressed. I talked about it at the beginning of the show and and you know basically it it replaces the you know the old <hes> at the rail tent and those you know those modular sweets it brings all of it together and did it really with a real style and panache and I think people are GonNa love it and there's lots of options terms of group parties and I you know I I know South I saw I've I've seen a little bit of critique and I kind of <hes> railed against some of the people that that were being critical of this concept but you know for years. All we ever heard was how naira can't make any money and then when Nyerere goes and tries to capitalize on on their greatest asset. That's no good either yeah. I don't you know the top of the stretch <hes> which was the addition last year which I have applauded got criticized and I don't get it. They you know nothing is taken away from what what the the average fan has. The price has gone up slightly but still you talk about the the price of a day at the track. If you're at the low end it beats any other professional sport not to mention you get to bring in your own picnic cooler if you'd like to. I I just think it's a bargain for folks who want the bargain opportunity but I'm the high end yeah. It's just any sporting venue in the country now caters to high end customers and has those luxury boxes and so if you looked at that tent that was there and those trailers that were there to put this building in you know as I say I'm sitting on the backstretch and we've been kind of up here working on the set and whatnot for a week and a half or so and I've been looking across you know the track towards the building. It's just architecturally fits in nicely. It's a good looking building from seeing the pictures on the inside it looks beautiful inside and yet it caters to a higher price point but again it it doesn't take anything away. Hey replaces that bank would taint ten and the the trailers which most people probably weren't utilizing anyway and it puts in something now that as I say every other sporting venue in the country has and I think this venue being the top racing venue in the country was kind of crying out for this kind of thing to me no negatives but I just think being year two thousand and nineteen. You're going to get those people who are who are going to complain. No matter what anxious for you to see see it and I'm sure we'll <hes> we'll talk about the early reviews when we are together on Sunday for loose and looking forward looking forward to getting people in here and I'm anxious to see what kind of what kind of vibe in general how well attended these first four days are going to be and the adjustment to the five day a week schedule. I think will be very easy and I just I expect it to be so much. More relaxed Seth and you know that that I don't WanNA use the word grueling but if you know unless you've gone through it for years as either a an <music> owner a trainer a horseman family of backstretch employees and their families I mean if you've been here and been involved for any length of time you know that you get the Labor Day and it you've been through a gauntlet and I think it can only enhance everybody's experience up here yeah. I've said people have asked me for the last three or four months as they see me. What do you think of the schedule? I have said for me. It's kind of a wait and see attitude attitude. It's hard to predict I think this first week. I think everybody looks for opening day so I think tomorrow attendance is going to be fine. I can be interested in Friday and Saturday and Sunday. You know in early July weekend. I'm not sure I mean traditionally. It was the August place to be. I think in a lot of people's minds it's still August and you still see that kind of jolt in attendance when the calendar changes to August even with the schedule being in July as long as it has been now so I think starting early in July it make it up to a little bit of a slow start <hes> all tomorrow. I think it'll be fine. Everybody looks forward opening day but as you say the two days off I think is GonNa make a big difference for people certainly those of us who are at the track every day again you you mentioned it. You get to Labor Day and it's kind of like hey see it. Go Away kind of ready for the break and I think it'll be a little bit about a nice change. This year with that two days off gives everybody a little time to decompress and get ready for the week. I'M GONNA be interested to see in that that they decided to take off Monday and start Wednesday and a lot of people have said boy that you know I used to like the long weekend Saturday Sunday Monday and I get that but I think that will work out fine. I think those people who did the long weekend and now we just ship and go Friday Saturday and Sunday so don't wind up working out fine. I think it's GonNa work out nicely for local businesses. I think now if you WANNA take a week up here Saratoga maybe a common couple of days you can go down to the baseball hall of fame. We're up to Lake George or just walk around Saratoga so I think it will play out nicely for local businesses but again. It's kind of a wait and see attitude. It's the how it will actually shake out. Well and you know I it occurs to me. What what's the T._v.? Schedule Agile. How how is it affecting <hes> The O._T.? Broadcast schedule what's going to be going on Monday Tuesday. I mean I- Monday Tuesday it will just show racing. We will only be live on the set on the racing day so essentially the schedule. Schedule is well like the racing schedule. A number of days is just the same. It's just different days so whereas I used to be Monday Wednesday Thursday Friday with racing across America Brian Does on Saturday you and I are on Sunday now. Racing across America for me is just Wednesday Thursday Friday but there will be more I mean I'm still going to have the same number of days that just Mondays won't be in the mix is they're going to be some Sunday night. <hes> to Wednesday morning main runs and that is always possible certainly <hes> that would have definitely been in the mix in years past but <hes> yeah probably work out yeah. I'll probably work out a a <hes> Sunday to eight lately Tuesday <hes> up beach trip that yeah this comes true. This comes a little late <hes> it's too bad actually right that would have been ideal appropriate yeah yeah all right well. We'll we'll make do all right and you should of course scouting for places for teen and I <hes> while you're there make sure you make sure you write something. Nice America's get <hes> through a few weeks ago. I recommend that it was up my cousin silence literally nine minutes away from from the old place right on the water was it was a nice location did somebody did you drive by days that somebody by days what what what what what's going on there <hes> I did drive by and they're open so so somebody ready you were talking about that. I've forgotten where somebody bought it or but it was open it is open good good good days <hes> lobster seafood shop and they'll steam them for you and either take them home or you can eat in the backyard and <hes> days for those of you going up to Freeport that's right on the way and this may be since we're talking made I I should slip in my <hes> my plug plug for Willard scoops in North Portland or South Portland South Portland North Borland south South Portland. Thank you <hes> wonderful ice cream. <hes> wonderful ice cream shop so make sure you enjoyed the pizza shop to <hes> the the pizza in Portland is out of this world. I mean there's Auto O._T.. O._T.. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. There's plenty others I it's a it's a terrific craft. The craft beer and spirits jason become like Saratoga kind of a Foodie tout yeah well. It's it it's got it's got a poll on Saratoga as a food down but <hes> AH Portland's a portable Portland's a real small city in it but it <hes> yeah it's it's. It's the HIP and happening. I love it. It's sort of the Portland the Portland of the East right all right. Let's let's Die Vince Seth and and let's get some thoughts about about the season and you want to do some handicapping or do you have some overview that you wanna you WanNa offer trying to think is your leading into that. I mean one of that. The angles I've laid throughout the years and it hasn't been as proficient the last couple of seasons but I used to be a job and shepherd guy you saw these toss his name out 'cause he would bring in those Augusta and runners that had race <hes> in their previous race. You know Delaware or Laurel well. Maybe an ad run maybe fifth or six they call up here and pop at a price again that hasn't been quite as proficiently augustine horses have kind of moved on but maybe Jonathan Thomas with some Augusta horses. Maybe take a look at some of those or Graham motion <hes> because I think those that Guston Austin runners may have some of that same kind of profile going forward <hes> that was that was one of the angles I always shit on a year and a year on. I can't think any other real kind of and everybody has we're talking on the show earlier this morning about those kinds of angles. Everybody has kind of a trainer that for them over the years has been a productive at Saratoga and one of them. I said a lot of people shepherd is Barclay K <hes> a guy who can bring horses up and maybe pop the price once or twice during the meat and everybody seems to have one in their back pocket that has worked for them so if you've got one spread the word a little bit won't hurt your price to tell two or three other people but <hes> give them a chance. You answered ticket <hes> trainer angles. You're kind of fun. <hes> if you have one like that other than that I don't really have any any thing you know they think tucked in the back pocket opera really well for those that watched us <hes> the other day <hes> we had oh ooh that was a great call pacing facing dave the clock or formerly known as pace and Dave now he's now he's palm beach downs Dave but he gave out the Nevin runner-up at at <hes> over eight to one and just got collard late but Dave talked about <hes> the obvious everybody knows that and in fact there's an article by Dave Greenwich <hes> his M._J.. Mental have his del Mar two year old article which is always a clip and save. We'll talk to Jay on Friday but <hes> Dave Greenwich has been doing those two year old collins as well. He's got a big one in that hits. Not just you know the obvious the Chad Brown and the pleasures etc but as Dave <hes> Dave Norton pointed out my Engelhardt Jeremiah on display right away early with some babies and you know and to your end you WanNa talk about a maiden opportunity you mentioned Augustine <hes> they have with Jonathan. Thomas George Strawbridge has got to a friend who is the seven to two favorite in the nightcap tomorrow so maybe you're onto something early. We'll see other favorite <hes> trainers. If you go go that way certainly certainly are manned. George Weaver and George did not have a typical weaver Saratoga last summer but the fact that George has been quiet at Belmont the this this early League midseason. I'm going to guess Georgia's will be poised for a big Saratoga. Yeah Yeah we've seen that in various years trainers have a big Belmont and then they come up to Saratoga and they've Kinda run out of conditions for some of the so things turn around but then as you say you get those strangers who are kind of a little quiet at Belmont they come up here though sources do still have some conditions the ready to pop and that's one of the things I think you watch war there will be the the the trainers that we we all know what your Chad Brown and whatnot but usually in the first three or four days five days there are one or two trainers and maybe a couple of jockeys who kind of stand out <hes> on that next year and they're worth work watching through at least the first half of the meat you know they they'll come in and they'll get a little bit hot <hes> and kind of announced that as I say maybe through the first four or five days of meat and then they're worth looking at for another <hes> two or three weeks or so well and on that topic the way you refer that you think about <hes> you think about the <hes> the book that Jim Mazer puts together and and yeah the way you know there was so many years where you know you really start your your research with his stuff and it said prog handicapped dot com. I always give him a little a little push. He does a great job laying out the historic angles on what he used to call. I am sure we still call them. I didn't see this year's book yet but he does the tortoise and the hairs the the hairs that get out to a big start in the first third so did the meat and of course this goes back to the days of six days a week for six weeks the thirty six they meet and so it used to be brought <hes> it used to be brought the out into two week the first two weeks the middle two weeks in the last two weeks weeks and that's changed somewhat and you're GonNa have horses you know this this period that is going to be. They're going to have opportunities to run. Maybe you know easily three times and the fact voodoo speaking of a multi winners right Voodoo <hes> dancers showed up on Friday in the forbid nap Voodoo songs dancer booted answer was Nice as well but <hes> Voodoo Song who won three times at Saratoga and amazing really an amazing story all the way to grade one winner but the the certain themes that are based on the condition Asian Book and I know that this has morphed somewhat over the years. There's still races that are always in certain places and trainers know that they're going to have horses for those spots and so there is you know there is a lot of benefit. If you are a D. R. F. Subscriber go to the simulcast daily section and look at the winners book and right now you can go if you go to the winters book all of last year's me. Meat is going to be laid out for you and look and see the conditions of the races and what the various you know who who won look for you know we do this. Ah Del Mar to look for guys that had you know big prices aces early in the meat and a lot of those themes at least put you on watch for those for those possibilities. They just you gotta be aware doesn't necessarily work from year to year and of course there was bill motte. You know who would been over forty with first time starters going back a bunch of years and then he promptly one with two of his first three. What was that two years ago? I'll call another angle right along. Those lines is to the venues and that's a good way to find that out looking at those charts from last year <hes> and looking at the you know the race <hes> horse the previous race and so you pick out the venues and you should do loose on the lead every week pick out <hes> where horses were coming from that to me is worth looking at in the first four or five days <hes> for seven or eight days maybe and seeing if are they coming in from Churchill L.. Are they coming in from. Maybe this summer will have horses coming in from Elvis and how horses are doing some of the other venues now. Obviously most of the winners will come from one of the New York tracks in their last star but if you pay attention some of all those venues kind of stick out a little bit and it's not you automatically go to them but if there's a horse you're kinda wavering and you think yeah got down to third spot and that's your where to put it exactly and it comes from a venue where the horses have been pretty good over the past you know four or five seven days or since the beginning of meat maybe upgraded a little bit well. Let's let's get a couple of opinions in kind of walked through real quick particularly for the people that will be listening to the replay and the replay tomorrow. We'll be leading you up basically to within an hour. I Post tomorrow one o'clock. Give us a kind of go back and forth I have it. I've got the card hard about eighty percent down. I gotTa do some battery work on that maiden race but other than that <hes> starts off tomorrow I I gave up three last night at the seminar so hit every five six and ten the five is a maiden special for state breads <hes> I I used ghost ghost ghost on top because I like our church arch as a sire of potentially precocious waters not necessarily super pretty good <hes> the damn producers sibling called Saratoga Charlie that went took ten starts to win but in the ten starts the wins end three seconds and a couple of third so a little bit precociousness another sibling called La Grande Warrior that was ninth in the debut then one in the second start so again. I think there's win early breeding. It's asked me she and the workouts are okay. Five the one I put ghost ghost ghost on top of that <hes> ray spun Fatty for Jeremiah that one sibling called Sunshine Sandy that wanted to debut as you mentioned earlier Jeremiah now getting to be one of those guys you have to pay attention to with debut runners and then I use the Wesley Ward under underneath so in the fifty Charito guy of three nine two and eight as I mentioned I have not done too much of the of the pedigree <hes> Kinda work yet so I will. I will not necessarily <hes> commit to anything in here here but I do know that I do know that there's an interesting name that jumped out at me as a damn from a barn that is not known at all as a first out type Tauber tranny hooked up with Bob Massey Yellow and you remember finders key who was a nice horse and she <hes> has produced a congrats Philly <hes> that they called keep it and that kind of cute because I'm gonNA guess that instead of selling this philly the Maciel and albertrani decided to keep it <hes> and that out yeah and <hes> she was in a she keep a key finders key did not run as a two year old but I would keep an eye on on this horse <hes> just <hes> you know the minute. I saw finders key because I liked I liked her. Are Anyway all right. What are you doing in that sixty mentioned <hes> again? This is one where we got to take a look at the sky tomorrow. I think they're predicting the weather but I'm the turf I have a to nine eleven and the one a and I'll just admit I'm every once in a while you roll dyson. I'm rolling the dice here at twenty. Three outlaws by golden sense that to me is a win early siren kind of lived up to that winning in the third career start but did take a little class dip their the numbers and spectacular but that was last October off since that that race look back in the middle of June there was a bullet workout best to thirty one at keeneland and that Lewis I as the for the move up here so I thought the Brian Lynch runner in there again at twenty two one. I as I say I'm taking a shot. I'm rolling the dice but I think I'll get paid to take up. Maybe a little bit interesting three outlaws in that six race yeah this is as you've heard me say for years the state rent allowance condition and it doesn't matter this is a turf IRV sprint but it doesn't matter my favorites are the turf <hes> Man Mile and Change Mile and a sixteenth etc they have been historically not just Saratoga downstate too but state bread allowance condition and is so productive in terms of prices and do not in these races. I'll tell you right now. Do not be afraid if you get an inkling about a price. Do not be shy. Go ahead <hes> if you thought something you might very well beyond the something all right so <hes> that's my my overriding suggestion when it comes to you know the the conditions and I'll throw out Charlie Baker acre go into the turf with light the posse tend to one just kind of little interesting to me and then you got the tenth again at the hope we keep on the turf ear <hes> but I used to the four Horse Klatt does run by bonaventure stables <hes> that includes some local owners so easy to root for locals but this one debuted main special company or okay debut want to learn from and benefit from and then dropped in for tag last time but the the winner their team win was up a pletcher Poli dropped down that that looked to just Kinda outclass the field and yet this one was a very close up second to that horse right off of that. I thought Oh this is GONNA be beautiful up at Saratoga <hes> if they kind of stay in the same class level they have they're coming back and essentially the same kind of a race of cloud does run on top and then as you say with the Augusta runner right underneath to a friend encore kitten I also think as a player in here so in that tenth and final Lionel Tomorrow Abbott four nine eight and five it's this is a competitive bunch these <hes> these maiden forties and actually we're in that maiden forty nightcap on Friday with Minnie mouse so these these are these are tough way to this is not a state bred race but <hes> there's open company but these are these are tricky <hes> the ones that you know the ones that have run and run on turf all pretty much you know within a length or two of each other so it's a bit of a trip issue and we'll see about the weather <hes> fifty fifty <hes> these first couple of days weather wise but <hes> one hundred percent forecast for great coverage of the meat <hes> by Vice Chef Mario and everybody a capital TV seth my on Sunday and I think seth one of our guests on Sunday <hes> my Guy Joe Bianca Joe is up from <hes> for T._v.. And not he's not fourteen he and he's he's up with his girlfriend to see the races and the go to the concert Saturday night but <hes>. I think maybe we'll get joe on <hes> on Sunday sounds good and fog last week. Show twitter store. You tweeted some things out. People are going back and forth and liking re tweet l. all in one person tweeted. How did you watch if you're if you're not up here? <hes> you can do it by going to the capital of the website which came up with a redesigned today a brand new website also an Ecuadorian. I put a link put a big link up on Ecuador that gets that media page H so the folks aren't in the area watch the O._T.. Programming live from the Sheriff Toga backstretch every morning just swing on over the Capitol thebeat dot com including our irreverent hijinks. 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Part 1: Pete Fornatele

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Part 1: Pete Fornatele

"Sirius Xm presents with Steve and becoming interviews. This is who will steve very good Wednesday race fans service to nineteen to one sport so nine sixty four if you're listening to Siriusxm online at our website too steep dot com midweek and of course holiday Monday so kind of a staggered week although racing opportunity tomorrow at Gulfstream and for those of you that are already looking ahead to the carryover pick five tomorrow at Gulfstream. Mike Welsh is going to join us. I very pleased to get Mike in early in a week. Usually we hear from Mike during weekend preview but the the weird circumstance on Monday where the the pick six the rainbow got hit and taken down for what one point two million and I haven't talked to. Actually I didn't reach out to Johnny but I understand Express bet play fifty one dollars and change fifty one sixty and You know you don't know you don't know these tickets you know the one of a series etcetera but still rainbow gets taken down without a force out scenario and the pick five went on. Hit Two hundred thousand going into tomorrow. So Michael Joins US RACES. Six through ten. And because it's just a you know it's just a typical mid week card it makes for I think a very attractive proposition. I mean there should be. You would think you'd have to think that with a two hundred thousand you gotta think five times plus so over a million way more than a million will come in and it's a eight by nine by eight by eight by ten sequence with races six eight and ten on the turf and I didn't check forecast there is an MTO in the in the eighth. But anyway I I gave it a quick going over this morning and we'll let Mike Flesh it out and then of course later this afternoon around four o'clock you'll get the additional support of the cocker information when it drops and see if we can't give you a leg up on this sequence. There's a thirty claimer Nantou lifetime turf sprint than a eight claimer. Going six and a half on the main phillies mayors. There's a sixteen Nantou turf. Sprinting too turf. Sprints always tricky. And then a good first level allowance for fillies and Mares gone three quarters on the main and then a maiden sixteen going a mile on the turf so it feels like a really. I think a lot of people will be focused tomorrow but I wanted to get Mike on Today. So that a little replay in the morning and get two shots at that his analysis And some of his his thoughts and see got you know maybe a couple of places to go narrow and so forth anyway so Mike Welch today and can a surprise visit and we'll also at the same time because they've already drawn the Saturday card. We could probably talk about the turf sprint. The world trouble and we'll also get kind of an early advance from Mike on next week's big card. They found the youth day and with it comes the Canadian on the grass devoted Dale Gulfstream Mile. The year comes to the bride. The honey Fox that mcdiarmid a the Palm Beach I. It's crazy one. Two three one. Two three four looks like nine stakes next Saturday. There is one piece of news. Actually there's been sitting here for days The old enough to vote that has Flavian Pratt coming into Gulfstream. On on Saturday to ride Dennis's moment week from Saturday and I've been meaning to slip that out because Iraq Will be in the Middle East. Bring that up with my two. And he can. He can provide any other News tidbits that contributes toward Next week's Big Day. So Mike Welsh. They seth marrow to in our three and I'll give you the rundown we'll talk to. Sid Sits Actually Florida to which I didn't realize he's down at Daytona. And obviously this involves Joe and Joe Having to pack up and head to Arizona for padres spring training camp. So we'll talk to said and there's a lot to do with him in fact because even though we generally look at the the three year old prospects the derby trail types and and you know certainly will certainly get to silver prospector. Declaration of war Who is clearly carving out. A niche for himself I just on the May track. And just with the horses that that he's producing but Mr monoploy and modernised of course coming out of fairgrounds and at the same time. I thought that there was something interesting that that said could riff on regarding charlatan. Who's a spice down and finite WHO's a munnings? And I I I I don't know per se. I didn't look at their female families but I. I am intrigued Particularly particularly with with Charlatan with that female family. And we'll we'll see what the said. Thanks and maybe there's something interesting to be had because of course munnings and spikes down. There's a lot there Father and son so anyway. It'll be a terrific sire. Watch pedigree focus brought to you by hill and Dale. We're GONNA visit with Brad Cox as well today. And I. I mean such a such a tumultuous and just harrowing use whatever adjective you want arduous. I Dunno arduous narrowing Emotional roller coaster. You know all the things that this game produces. I mean here here you you win important standards. I on Saturday in New Orleans factor this winning well in in the fairgrounds and Mr Monoploy and then you know forty eight hours later. You're you're getting ready for the day at Oaklawn and and things just goes wrong as they possibly could with Tamraz and you're at the lowest possible EB and flow. You're you're devastated the whole barn and and really throughout the the game players and fans and just everyone everyone who cares about horses shaken by it and then some uplifting results hours later in the afternoon. I mean there couldn't have been a better scenario. I suppose if wells by you had won the South West. That would have been. That would've also helped. But the scene involving warriors charge and the ten strike racing team with the enormous turn out that was on hand and undoubtedly you know all of those. Hopefully all of those happy people help to assuage some of the pain involved with harass. So we'll talk to Brad Cox who is Just awfully forthcoming and and for him to to be willing and and discuss the emotions involved very tough but I appreciate and he needed. He needed additional time that today afforded persons yesterday. So we'll talk to brad got a couple of other Out I I do want to. I don't know if O.`Neil is F- I think there's a chance that he is going to be made in tomorrow because the carnival racing big car tomorrow and he's got three he's got blitzkrieg. We haven't had a chance to talk to doug about this project sending literally sending a string of course mcpeek too but Doug O'Neill sending a group horses to May Dan for Carnival and he's got blitzkrieg for Mrs Bass tomorrow that's in the made an sprint. He's Got Ocean Fury for K and g the stormy Atlantic That's in the it's called. The Range Rover just ahead gap. And then he's also got one in the in. The last one flew south for the dunes. So three and tomorrow and Doug's already. He's already done nicely The guineas win so we'll try to try to run them down tomorrow in fact the UA yolks tomorrow. And there's there's a few in here that are fairly notable including that serene for the Japanese interests the uncle Mo Philly that has talked about participating I in the oaks and then later in the UAE Derby with a design on coming to the US for the Kentucky Oaks Serene the Mo- Philly Bread bike restaurant so keep an eye there Pretty interesting pretty interesting field. Actually that Came together here and in fact. Three American bred runners tapie sue capture philly from Doug Watson and down on the bayou Super Saver McCain bloodstock and this one four So you've been good I R- field of sex but all is careless. Whisper in here I see and site. Benson wars gotTa Godolphin's Dubai love and one more ascot brass but serene is the one that people are focused on so anyway. I'm trying to find try to find. Doug you see Doug O'Neill tell them we're looking for Pete for to tell will Start US off to After the first break we will also at the top of our to syllabi later in our to Eric. Fat Lynch and Stephanie Houston Meghan Values. Parents will join us from Ocala where they're attending to Meghan as she recovers from just the tragic accident Early morning hours Valentine's Day on Friday. And he's doing very well the typical. Jackie recovery pattern. There's a lot of pain involved in. There'll be a lot of rehab work to do but the good news is Meghan Vich. Doing well and Eric and Stephanie will provide an update and I really I. I not that I curse them but I I really did. Urge them because there's going to be a need particularly Cody Davidson and his two children. And the Meghan as well but there's to go fund me and I wanted to draw attention to them both with with Eric and Stephanie's visit and Eric Faddish for those of you on facebook. He's been providing a pretty detailed updates every day. at at his facebook. Page all right so fabulous which Update today there. It is what else you know what I did. Not Get to Friday and I felt terrible Reto racing it adorable retail. At all the kids from University of Arizona the Racetrack Program season underway. And they run the place. They do a great job. So F y keep keep a lookout. We'll take a break. Pete's going to start us off Wednesday. Get together back after this operations with Steve on Sirius. Xm Radio Eight. What's going on? Mikey and I'm GonNa tell you about an offer for my good friends at express. Bet Let's be honest. We know you love playing the racist but you can't always make it to the track. Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good bet. What if I told you about a place? Will you never miss it and you start with house money? It's am crazy Wright Express your first one hundred and twenty five bucks are on them sign up and express bet dot com Promo Code. Pick that's B. Y. K. And you'll get one hundred and twenty five bucks when you wage of five hundred within your first thirty days. 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Good morning to you like you're reading my mind and musical elections over the last few days snowden in Saratoga. I actually just started the ten year anniversary. Mad Men rewatch and over the last few days I've watched the first five episodes and managed good. I did it over. Was it over. Christmas was actually more than over Christmas. I I got funny. I got through the first six seasons. I was basically watching an episode. A day is in the fall and and then I sort of bogged. I almost didn't WanNA watch the last seven eight from from the final season and then and then I did but I did the same thing And I hadn't even really realized that it was Ten year the ten year mark but yeah it is it is just it's there. There's certain ones certain episodes that I just pull up. When I'm in a certain booth I'll I'll pull up You know Close the door have a seat Which is which is I. Think one of the greatest episodes of television drama and history. There's many in the show that are candidates for that and it it just incredible how much TV has changed since the time and in some ways how this show along with some other notable ones obviously sopranos comes to mind have been part of that have been part of that changes the difference in the move towards whatever you WANNA call it prestige television and away from sort of a monoculture lowest common denominator. Tv of hold. And I mean for me these. I watching the first five. There's a couple of those classics in there just really Donald down into the themes of the show. And if you've never seen it it's one that's absolutely worth revisiting and this might be a good time on the on the tenth anniversary. I like it. I like it and I'm just trying to figure out. I think it's I think it's the I think it's the is at the third. Typically you can. Yeah it's the. It's the season ender of season three and it's unbelievable just tremendous. I'll be there in khloe arguing alrighty. Well there's a couple of a couple of musical cuts. I'll see if I could prompt Asia the pull out we've got at least two other and this was inadvertent That that the days you reached for for that match up with Allison Williams. But we've got at least To Cuts Chateauroux. Roba with Roy. Orbison that that actually comes from that episode from shut the door seat. And then there's also we've also got We've got the hike Williams Start Hank Williams There's there's an we have at least two others that are lifted from From the music of Madman they did a great job throughout obviously music reflecting era. And that's one of the things that's so interesting in the show such a good job chronicling that change where musically throughout the nineteen sixties and. It's funny to think of now where to me. Ask An old guy you know music today versus music ten years ago versus music fifteen years ago. Yeah there's changes but they're they're like fully understandable whereas it feels like in the sixties. Every six months it was giant sea change in what was happening in music and popular culture and the show does a good job tracking that for sure. So you you report in And as you as you watch the cannon unfold at there's a there's a fabulous companion. There's a book that I that I got Book it's yeah the Boy Compendium or something yes. Yes the CAROUSEL. That did that. Yeah Madman carousel complete critical companion. And it it is. It's terrific because there's things that are not in the episode guide that you it's impossible to catch it considering what Matt Winer did it with this. It's impossible that you you saw. Every single reference every single placement than and just it it the the the work that went into it. The I mean that's a an achievement that I don't know hard to you know I. I know. People have their favorites but This one it went right up to the top next to a homicide life on the street and Saint Elsewhere. Those that'd break. That's that's my factor too. I mean we're talking about precedes television. Those shows that would you know obviously especially with the Simon Connection with homicide. Those shows definitely paved the way for for everything that came. They came after. And I'm a big fan of solar sites that critic Great twitter followers. Well if you like all things media but even though and this is just was just silliness on my part. When that book came out Susan was my wife was working publisher and I never wanted to get myself a copy of who we might know person there too so I I may happen. You got a copy of Madman Carousel to accompany my ten year rewatch. I recommend that Highly and especially if you've got that kind of that kind of a connection and there's things you can do of course the U there's episodes carve out that are that are literally the the the thing was so brilliantly laid out that there's episodes that you can that you can connect. I mean if you're willing to to do some you know time travel and skipped what a what a funny reference but you can jump a jump cut as it were and watch certain episodes that have distinct ties. I mean literally from season one to season seven. Either I mean it's just it's so brilliant that it's frightening Really make an appearance in at least one episode right. There's a Kentucky Derby. Yes Yeah Yeah. Roger Rogers Rogers Black face episode Where they wish that. That's also important episode because Don meets Connie Hilton right in the clubhouse of the of the country club And that's a great seen so much good stuff. I'm really looking forward to helping back in. I remembered more than I thought I was would. Once the episode started. I'm not sure if that's going to stay the same as as the seasons. Go on but The indelible memories and episodes and I I will I liked ideal all reports back. I should try to find an excuse to write something about. I've never I don't think I've ever really written about TV at all by. It's A. It's a fun topic one that I typically reserved for for leisure as opposed to having any element to it without with racing. Sometimes it all gets jumbled up in a big tangled heap well and you'll one thing one thing that watching it in in this case years later will do that. They'll be there's going to be certain characters that you end up liking that you didn't like Maybe the first go round. And or that. You have sympathies for Pete Pete. Most notably But There's also people who you know with the benefit. Of of retrospect you see as just made really awful and the thing about a about it personally for me is just you know having had a corporate having add a corporate career Essentially from you know from nineteen eighty two Starting the my my first job out of college was working on on Sixth Avenue in the time life building and for cannon mills and taking the train from Rosslyn You know into the city and going to though the the there whether it was whether it was a barbershop that you'd go in for a shave and get your get your shoes polished and your nails done. I mean it was it. There's so much about the people in in the whole in the whole scheme of things and then you know from personal experience standpoint that you just relate to And that's what made it so you know just so amazing and having grown up a good portion of my life in Connecticut There's just there's a lot. There's a lot there that that's why it was so popular. I mean everybody you know. It wasn't popular by accident a portrait of an era but also a portrait of the the human experience. I realize that about your connection that I go to even notice. I GREW UP IN PORT WASHINGTON. So just you know a town a town over essentially and has book publishing not advertising but that was my one thousand nine hundred nineties work in the FIR before. I moved grown for a couple of years. Do we believe that commute and the commuting scenes which happened throughout the series? I do remember bringing very very true-to-life a different era but very relatable if you were in that position like you and I both worked for for a number of years. The club car. I mean there there was. There is nothing there the scenes in the club car to me. are are just so evocative and the there there was something about you know pulling into. Douglaston and wife come in a wife coming on the train to appeal the husband out of the out of the seat. And you know. Take him home because You know guys guys would bang home three three cocktails You know in twenty five minutes from pulling out of pull it out of Grit central it started on the train. Yeah well the lunches the drinking I. I'll tell you a funny story my literally my first day at at cannon and they assign you to a an executive and they're going to be your they're going to be your rabbi and a mentor and so we forget his name. There's is a number of guys though I distinctly remember but I forget his name. We go to lunch and the waitress comes over and says can I get your drink and I said Oh you know. I'll have ice tea and he said you don't want to give you want something to drink you want to. Do you want a beer? You WanNA cocktail. I said Oh no. I'm just thinking I gotTa make a good impression and I said no no. I'm fine and he immediately ordered literally the three Martini. Lunch was a real thing. The real thing it was a jigger they they brought the jigger and there were three Martinis Jigger and I said you know what? I'll have a beer at at that point at A. That's a that's a true story. I Believable all right. Let's that was look out for that. So about where were you went electric Distortion on us? Are we back there? You go that's better all right. Try that again all right. Let's dive in and get Get into the weekend and there's actually a whole bunch of things the to discuss and that includes. I don't know if you heard Ed Peters on Friday. But we talked to ed about his experience at the contest this year and had another nice run You know his his approach. Nhcd H C continues to evolve but Also asked him for advice for fledgling contests players and the first thing he said is by Pete's book. Get the winning contest player. Read it and you know that will give you a foundation but then I wanted him to kind of flesh out. How players can that are interested how they should wait into the action and he talked about some of the inexpensive feeders. That you know you don't have to. You don't have to play the one hundred and seventy five dollar buyin. You know the first contest you play that you can you can do it Steely Lii and certainly Pete you. I've touched on this over the years but This is a prime time post. Nhcd to give people encouragement to get involved. I think that's exactly right. They build up a lot of momentum. There's a lot of interest in taking a look at the different options out there. I would suggest different paths depending on what type of player you are and no matter the answer to that there are there are ways to get involved for little money online is a great place to start and I would recommend folks take a look though the two big contests Heights Still Derby wars and horse turney dot com then. Of course there's horse players which is an offshoot of horse turney that has the feeding and the qualifying for Breeders Cup ending challenge and the N. H. A. Which one of those? You Might WanNa make your goal again. Probably depends what kind of player you are. And how much? You're worried about The experience in having a goal versus trying to make every dollar count as more somebody. Who's more concerned with expected value? I might point differently than somebody. Who's just looking to have a great racing experience? I always volunteer myself to answer questions. If folks can tell me what they're looking for from contests I am happy to point them in a direction you can reach out to me either on twitter at looms boldly or if you send me a note through my website in the money. Podcasts DOT COM. Tell me what you're looking to accomplish in a few sentences. I'm very happy to to try to help you but I think that idea of playing in low money online feeders. Just dip a toe in the water. That's not going to hurt you. No matter what level you're at and then again depending on your your your goal and if you're more interested in live bankroll or mythical money I would probably point you to one particular type of feeder or another and the Hawthorne contests. I mean. They're such good. They are such a good opportunity. That's that would be an intermediate type staff. I would point folks to and then there's contests like if you're if you're willing to you know if you're a player who spent five hundred on a weekend or more anyway a look at something like the express but on this very weekend that has a five hundred dollar buy in and start messing around with with live. Play if you like the idea of incorporating wagering. It's part of this some people what they love about conscious what. I don't have to worry about weight. The wagering size. I can just pay Horsey for if that sounds appealing to you thinking more with those online qualifying for an event like NHCD or the Horse player world series coming up in not too distant future. That might sense. But there's there's so many I what I always say about conferences. No matter what type of player you are there is an option. That's going to suit you and starting online asking questions. I appreciate that push on the winning contest player. I still think even though it's getting old with there's a lot of still pretty relevant INFO in there. The landscape has changed a bit but now completely I will say that with the press not existing anymore. There are not that many copies left. I still have about half a box. If folks are interested in getting assigned copy. Reach out to me through those same channels I mentioned you can get potentially one of the last ones and there's enough interest. I think I will probably investigate doing a new addition self-published the R. S. Toby they're going to give me the right back. And I'm looking forward to doing that. And putting some info in there. But the if the PAP that I believe any player should at Least Cape. It hires than experiment on if not have it become a important part of their arsenal. Now I will obviously in the course of conversation will also point out the The free opportunities you know. It's it's very notable how many players got in- involved by winning one of the six seven eight free contests that are run every year We're GONNA come back again this summer with with our a free contest as well know so there's ways because not everybody is going to be comfortable especially beat when it comes to the confidence building and understanding formats and getting just getting into a into a comfort zone and there's probably a few people that that would be ideal. We think back to conversation with Peter Dresses about how he got started and ED himself. Ed talked on Friday about hearing about the contest world. You know off the show and and you know giving him a an alternative Avenue to play and enjoy the game so They will will incorporate it As part of any conversation with contests players about how they started and what advice they can provide to those that that are coming in for the first time and of course We had we had somebody qualify already. This weekend It's not taking too long but one of the biggest names in contest history Already qualified goodall sets the. It's the record for now. It will still be the record throughout the they'll just be a few folks who join her and get the share it but sally go good all over the weekend. Qualifying online for a record nineteenth time Pretty appropriate her her husband. Richard just got inducted into the hall of. He's a former a former champion and a a passionate player. Who's I pride themselves on always learn? He's somebody who whenever we would do Educational webinars would always be in the mix and asking good questions and always wanting to just make his his Handicapping tool chat that much bigger and obviously he's mentored his wife has been on the scene for a very long time and was great to see her name up on the top of the leaderboard. I think I forget. Who else is in is going to be in the Nineteen Club? I believe Paul Sherman Maybe trae style as well he might be eighteen. It's hard and some of those early histories aren't as clear though I will say. Npr Did a great job and you can now find a lot of this history on the website that that media guide that we were handed at the NATO does exist online for folks who want to delve into the history of the event anywhere see where they are a very typical after a certain amount of qualifications that you ask and very rare that somebody says yes. I've qualified twelve. It's usually I think ten or eleven. Now they're at least some official records and I think they're large maybe in the first couple of years there some issues but largely accurate stuff but that was a great story. I was glad to was glad to see. Sally getting that qualification early on for next year's each very cool. Yeah and just looking. There's actually there's actually Today The there's a seat today at Horse Journeys For a a Wednesday activity and then on Friday you got to add horse players. You mentioned Saturday. The Santa Anita February challenge of five hundred dollar opportunity and express bet the course as well Turns on Saturday and then on Sunday or his players comes back with two. So you know already already. We're we're looking at at six to eight the opportunities a week at the least You've got the first of the MONMOUTH simulcast series starts next Saturday. The first feeder challenged number one next Saturday. Mom So Brian scorecard and we're going to get Brian involved involved in visits as well so Great great job throughout the year. Not just during their racing season monmouth. I named checkoff before I could have just as easily and probably should've mentioned Mahmut as a place that has out for live bank players very affordable a good crew of people. They take good care of you and an excellent way. I mean probably for any specifically I think the the two places I might target would be those Hawthorne contests and the Mom Pick your prize is just a is a terrific way if you wanna try to punch your ticket to Vegas in an ihnen very economically sound way and talked about the barrier to entry with online contests. That's a really good point. Not only do you have the option of playing these low money. Feeders where you can kind of not worry so much about take out. You can just sorta take a very low money. Entertainment type Flyer. That could turn into something but you can also try to build bank role playing in head to head contest. You know you can go on there if you've never played before maybe it's fun to play against one other players now granted the still set in the types of forces you need in a head to head and end up being very different than the ones. You're GONNA need an a big online tournament where it'd be one you know sixty five people get praised. Get prizes obviously. You can play a lot more chalk. You can pick winners and get points in the head to head in a way where you've really got to play to a certain score in the one in sixty five but like. I said there's really something for everybody and again I'm happy to help point you on your journey. If you have questions about getting involved and contest play. I don't do nearly as much in that world as I did back in the days. But it's still something we cover on the contest. I get to write about for different clients from time to time and you know I always get the get the contest bug a little bit Steve when we're out there at the NFC getting to interact with all those people. Well speaking of speaking of value and abetting opportunities that are priced right Brought it up on the during the course of the contest coverage last week and the strack five which pick five fifty cents twelve percents. Aac Out I mean there's so much going on in it that is attractive and there's been you know they've persevered with it and they've They've built up the popularity. And you're doing a weekly advance on it that we should point out to people. And it's an opportunity to walk through the five races and I I would think that particularly with venues obviously Santa Anita and Gulfstream. The majority of players are going to be intimately familiar with but when Laurel and Golden Gate are folded in it. You know this time of year. It's a little trickier and so the the coverage and getting You know a little bit of a guide dog support to the sequence and and the venues because not everybody not. Everybody plays all four venues ongoing basis. Yeah we're priding ourselves on hopefully bringing some particularly good information about the circuits folks aren't familiar with and at some point will look to pull in gas says well who have some insider knowledge of Golden Gate and Laurel the I appreciate the chance to talk about it. So it's the latest show on the in the money media network can find all the show's over it in the money podcast dot com once a week. Typically it'll be jk and I maybe guests at some point rolling through those five races and talking about wagering strategy more than we do on most of the other shows with the idea of nothing groundbreaking stuff that's been talked about. Your listeners will be very familiar with the Steve. Kristen Barry Meadow ideas about main tickets and backup tickets but just trying to present of a look at how we're going to put our tickets together and we'll actually be putting our tickets together during the show arguing about finer points of whether horses should be as or BS or maybe having to move some horses out for cost purposes or finding a way to work some extra horses in in a spread race that we have the budget to do so. So it's GonNa be a look at taking construction and an overview of those five races hopefully with Some specialist knowledge that can help people along. I truly believe it's the best band in racing. Low take out. I like dollar minimum. It can blow the budget up. We've seen what this that pays versus the parlay. How much better opportunity than a lot of what else is out there and I also just think it's a fun. Lot of us are in this game. Because we like the puzzle. We liked the handicapping. Challenge the extracts. Add to that. And it's just a it's a fun way to get to put those ten and watch it play out over the course of just a couple of hours on a Friday. Lots of five and we're very happy to be working with them on promoting the bat. Well and for instance this week you're looking at the Laurel Eighth. The Gulfstream Seventh Golden Gate Third Santa Anita third and then back to Gulfstream for the tent. And there's a ton of support for it At Express Bet there's invariably day makers the coming from Segal at Santa Anita and and other Matt dinner has done some from Golden Gate etc Rhonda Acacia Jason from Gulfstream. Jeremy Plock is is is chipping in Dustin Fabian with statistical support about some of the races. I mean there's a lot of material Brian. Nato has a ticket that And NATO he and I have done. I think we did a couple of months ago. When there was a carry-over you mentioned the dollar minimum and the dollar minimum concept was included because it could help trip carryovers. And that's when this thing goes into the stratosphere. Oh Yeah I mean. I'm looking forward to getting to do our first one with a carryover. Any excuse to work with Brian is okay with me colleagues from way back in the day Saratoga special. And he's a good friend and that's a very good idea. Somebody who is good. Also APP ticket construction. I know he's a big believer in putting together the main tickets and the backup tickets and all I. I'd love to have loved to have him on. You mentioned that ever you mentioned would be great to have on that. Dinner obviously has The littoral bird's eye view of everything going on out there at Golden Gate. I'll throw in Naomi. Tucker at Laurel new analyst there as somebody who's worked with us a bunch on the network we'd love to have on to share some of what was going on around Laura. She's paying close attention there these days. It's I think there's endless possibilities for us to provide some fun and entertaining coverage will hopefully help listeners. Make a couple of dollars. Well what else you got going on. I saw where I I saw where That for near is going to go to make an appearance boot right. He's going to reboot thing. We just we just dropped. The second episode of the revamped map for near show. Mad is busier than ever doing his work with NBC and TV G. of course. But we're very happy you know when we launched when the D. R. F. Players podcast launched in November of two thousand fourteen. I wasn't the host map for near was and we worked on it together for a couple of years before he launched the original version of the map rainier show and I'm just so happy to have him back in the old. I just love his his energy. His approach to the game I I'm so proud to have him on the Airways and I've got I've got that show. I have a pretty lengthy Q. Right now Steve of audio materials. Listen to I gotTA listen to Matt Second Episode. We just dropped and I've also got I've got some racist to catch up on including that Peter's interview you mentioned the other day but I'm just thrilled and hopefully we're going to continue to do more fun things on the network with With Map Rainier and and new partners as well as get all our programming together for for twenty twenty. It's just been a blast and listeners. Many of whom found the network through my appearances on this show Steven? I'm very grateful for that They've been very very pleased with everything. We've been putting out there. We just want you know. We think this is just one way trained going forward. So we're GONNA keep grinding and digging and trying to create some great content for folks There as well as your Nice Let me also Get got a couple of minutes. And we're going to be joined by Eric. Fad Lynch and Stephanie Houston. And we'll get an update on Meghan and now she's Ferenc but What about your weekend? What what did you think three year? Old Thoughts Anything that You must have certainly been delighted. You must've been delighted for Marshall and the ten strike dame very very excited about The the razorback great race and we've been part of the warriors charged story since very early on Marshall in his appearances talking about him on on the show. And and we actually. I broke a promise to. You've had such good luck doing appearances right. Before warriors charges races. He told me at some point had to have him on before everyone. We ended up not doing your show on Monday. But Hey the horse. He didn't need us. He got done all by himself and onward and upward for him heading onto presumably the fingers crossed. And all that good stuff Oaklawn handicap. I'm guessing would be the next of the next logical stop for him. That was very cool. It was I need to spend more time. I gotTA go back I've been. I've watched the races once that I haven't come back and done any any digging on the three year old stuff. Obviously Charlatan making a splash. An interesting story to see how offer ends up managing his very full hand horses. And we'll see what happens coming out of Louisiana last year but he's preparations had a major impact on the triple crown. So they look like they might be. They might be poised to do so again. So there's there's a lot of fun stuff to deconstruct them looking forward to going back and really doing notes and get involved in doing some triple crown right up stop for the Brits over at the other apparatuses after racist Dot Com. So I'll have my thoughts a lot more organized by the end of the week when I put that together but it's a great time of year. There's interesting stuff happening every week. And the momentum is building for what is to into my mind promising to be a really interesting. It's a really interesting group of horses and promising to be a really interesting triple crown series as well. Excellent well Braschi eight it. Anything Anything to add. Or we're I'm just looking forward to getting back to Brooklyn. We actually came up state this weekend hanging out with hanging out with the family. Making sure Saratoga House is still here. That was a good experience. Susan ended up getting sick. So we've been a little it's been. It's been interesting last couple of days. If you've noticed I haven't posted to long break between shows for me because I've been dealing with the dealing with helping playing nurse to Susan and then Do BEING DOING DAYCARE. Stuff while trying to keep everything rocking and rolling on the network. But I think we're we're getting ready to head back to the city. I'll get back in the bunker and start putting out start putting that shows hopefully even by the end of today we'll have some more good stuff up on the network with before it hopefully talking to Klay Sanders of the ten th strike team and hearing a little bit more about his experience in in racing. He's just as much of a part of everything going on there as as Marshall has some great stuff share so that should be a terrific show. Hopefully again that'll be up soon. Traffic isn't too bad. That might be up by the end of business today. So check it out and again. That was a very sincere offered. Everybody you have questions about contests or anything going on on the network. Holler at me in the money. Podcast DOT COM or on at looms boldly. He wanted to tell everybody safe travels home. And we'll talk next week. Thank you my friend. Always appreciate the chance to come on and Yap and The the mad men thing was that was. 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We're back at the races and just come back from a fund rambling with Feet for an ital- and I just wanted to Just whatever teen is home from whatever teen is home from school you know I I i? There's there's always stuff being dropped on my desk the mid show I do I do I show up at school. I show up at Salem and say honey. I'm here. No she's all right. I'm distracted. She distracted me. I have been trying for a couple of days to have the racing community updated with Meghan fat alleges condition and the news has been good. It doesn't make anything that transpired any easier But it's certainly been heartening to hear from her father Eric Daily on facebook and in a Meghan for those of you. Listen to the show For any period of time. Megan has been on with me We celebrated with Ivan Vasquez and Cat Launch Who she wrote in near the end of his career but I think I actually had around more at the time for Jacks fact who had a huge season a few years ago and You know she's a writer who I think. 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Part 1: Rick Hammerle, Dr. Jennifer Durenberger

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1:22:46 hr | 1 year ago

Part 1: Rick Hammerle, Dr. Jennifer Durenberger

"Sirius Xm forts presents with Steve. Big The horse racing handicapping interviews. This is stupid from the University of Arizona Racetrack Industry Program Symposium on racing and Gaming Good Morning Sirius. Xm To o-on sports. Oh nine sixty four you're listening to Sirius. Xm online at our website as well the VICK DOT COM and back with hammer and the suppose him underway the sessions start Actually right away as early as next hour and a a pretty pretty buffo lineup lineup. Actually kicking off with the one and only mattress Mack Hammer. He'll be onstage shortly to Talk about is A lot of things probably marketing as well as he went on a little splash run with her unhappy last year. You couldn't turn around anywhere without seeing her unhappy so I don't know I think it worked even even in defeat though even when the Astros the cost them ten million dollars if it seemed to work out. Alright maybe that was part of the plan. Maybe got more attention that way but as you say were officially kicked off here. We officially kicked off the food portion of the of of the event last night we went on a little a little TACO bus little TACO run around town and it was about twenty of us I think on the very nice bus Music provided in which was wonderful. And the good thing was shades. Were down and we went to a couple of places that you probably wouldn't stop by on your own but Power in numbers that the is that power numbers and about twenty gringos walked into a few places down South Tucson and I tell save. The food was great Some local local fair and the it was wonderful. We had a lot of fun. We went first to a TACO ECHO truck. That's pretty much permanently barked. And they actually have added a they are next to a building now in converting the building into a full-fledged restaurant as that's the success story of so many of the food truck concepts Jason's and very good and I. I think I did the right. The thing I went with a Sonoran hotdog to start because it was going to be to food stops and then one desserts and so I went it light with just the Sonoran which I discovered I guess it was two years ago when I stopped and he loy on the way to Phoenix and there was a roadside cart. Young A guy. That's been there for nine years serving Sonoran hotdogs and I had seen them. They're wrapped in Bacon. Then they're dressed up with virtually everything you can imagine Geno Guac and pickled onions and mayonnaise mustard beans if they're in a really fluffy role they get these big fluffy if he rolls so I thought I did the right thing and then the TACO toast dotto kind of thing Tamale at the second place which was called Correa Pico de Gallo. Oh was he gyco Guy. Oh and it was terrific we then we stopped downtown and you showed me that that that hotel congress which was unbelievably cool. I'd never been downtown in five trips here. Well Hotel Congress is down to on an. I didn't spend a whole lot of time down dare when I was going to school here but as it happened we were there the night before in the in the in the Cup Room. It's a little room in the hotel. Congress which is got to be one hundred years old and various assorted bars in there and actually it was one of the places where John Dillon journeys gang were arrested Back in the thirties. I believe he can look it up but apparently Him and his gang were hiding out at the hotel and there was a fire in the hotel and everybody had to be evacuated and him and his gang were running out. One of the firemen was running in and said Hey I think I saw that kind of post office and they arrested him and you know he went off on his merry way but It's still has that thirty thirties forties feel So they have phone booths there and The the old time Telephone operators where you put the plug into the into the socket so a little bit of a flash back in time. And if you ever ever get to Tucson you stay downtown. The might not be a bad place to stay very cool and no elevator The Lost I heard I heard the the guy at the essay. Say to a guest. That was checking in. The elevator was lost in the fire and they didn't bother to replace it which was pretty funny. So pack lightly They don't because you're going to have to Schlep those bags upstairs Really a pleasant evening and now set for the two days of the conversation. I'm going to be involved in the track surface discussions. They'll be two parts and feels like one is a main track discussion the front half and then a break and then the back half is Michael Dickinson will take the the floor undoubtedly and singing the praises of the moving. Everybody that the pita So it should be interesting. I'm looking forward to it. I don't I think I'm only traffic cop up there. Although I do have a couple the questions that I do want to ask and Glenn Kozak on hand from naira One of the most respected track supers in the game and and Also Mc Peterson of course Who is renowned for the testing and keeping the keeping a finger on the pulse of of surfaces? Also Dan Kun. Who's done a little bit of both? He's done The harness side the harness surfaces surfaces as well as the thoroughbred side And also in that second session we've got or win Dreitzer who was from Woodbine? And he'll talk about you know what what has been obviously a successful And now protracted use of synthetics at Woodbine Woodbine so that's my contribution but there's a little bit of everything we're GonNa have Allen Forman here later found. The third would be our ten thirty Brian. We have we have to get him off the golf course. He's probably out there now. He's an Avid Golfer. Here loves this coarser and if you do come to Los Bring your clubs because it's a wonderful course and actually this time of year. If you're like me and you were not fair way you can actually go and get your ball because I think the snakes are put away while speaking a witch rich last night we forgot about this when you said that last night when I instead of walking through the hotel which is like a hike. I walked right around the parking lot back to the backside here facing the mountain and I saw something grey and medium-sized raised. It's called a hobby. Lena holley thinks scurried across the parking lot. It was like what the hell was that and I it's obscuring to to to the room you I usually. They run in packs. This was this. Was this one it was operating Solo. Okay and they're like Pumpkins they tell me and I was out in the desert here for two months out in out in the desert desert desert and I was actually wanted to see one or two and I was the owner of the house. Told me we'll put the water down there and put some fruit over here and you know I did it all. I saw one scurrying across the road but I never saw. I never saw the packs but Anyway continuing on with today. There's there's a safety today seems to be more our Safety oriented well partially with the day. And there's There's a group that includes Dion Pinson and Joe Byrne who was actually on the truck last night. The TACO truck Dan Thick and Alan Foreman who will probably go a little bit more when we talked to him about what. He's GonNa talk about some of the initiatives that that he started needed and the mid Atlantic and I think our listeners were the hip to the whole mid-atlantic initiative from last year. When Allen invited? It'd me down to the working group session at Delaware Park and you got first hand in hand feel for what their thoughts were and what their directions were and Allen told everyone what about a month ago when when we visited the major elements amounts of the mid Atlantic plan are being more widely adopted The sticking point And there's news on this front to the the lay succession which it just does not relent. And has been such a distraction really and such a unnecessity me unnecessary you know part heart of things and yet. KHRC yesterday they're going to go ahead with their Phase out concept But we'll see how that meets it's with With the horsemen too because That's a part of the equation that You know it seems to be forgotten all this will you bring up the l word and and I wish we could just take it. Put it over there and try and get some other stuff done. It seems to deflect everything over and over again over and over again. You See People's talk about the last six and they forget about the eight or nine things that are underneath that that were trying to get done in the sport and one day we'll get there We had just have to put that over here. Argue do that on on its own merits and then worry about some of the other stuff that Alan. It's come up that that when you get a group like the mid Atlantic and there seemed to be pretty together together on on these on these measures a lot of which have been done at other places for years but when you got a group of states in the mid Atlantic has worked together gather and many many things with the with the match series when you can get a group to come together with races and work together on scheduling that leads to getting getting together on other issues and Alan Alan's the perfect person to put this group together and if you can get a group like that to to agree on on drug issues and Horse Horse Air Safety issues. It's a great step for maybe leads the way for others to join in. And at least the you know the elements of their plan that people but not necessarily incorporated into their approach. Or they're thinking that Certainly is has helped I think again. I'll use my push the peanut Analogy there is a presentation early today. I wish we could be in their factor durnberger Jennifer Durnberger Who you know as racing matters and also has stewarded in New York and is a A A an interesting angle on on so many of the broad topics that the industry addresses and she has got a a pretty vital and repeatedly as has had a series of vital presentations including about after care and second careers and the way the industry can position itself successfully to address that arena This presentation this this morning horse racing social licensed to operate and this is this is something that we did with the nick. Lock in fact the earlier in the year when the Santa Anita need a situation started to really materialize the the way in which the industry has to work to get its message out regarding the viability in in this century in this era he wanted to if however you wanted to find the IB. I wish I could sit in on this. But we're on the air. We'll get DOC durenberger if she gets If she's got time may be right maybe afterward a critical mass maintaining the critical mass racing players and owners. That's that's a group that includes Some Australian players that are generally regarded Australia's regarded as upon per capita basis The biggest the biggest in the world They've got a presentation Jim Oval in there. Of course who is at Churchill As the director of betting information You've got Michael Barone and Michael. We've we've missed an opportunity a couple of times to talk to him. Michael Well founded my race my resource DOT COM. which is really kind of emerged in the last year? A UH licensed as a as a as a financial entity as a You've got basically by stock horse right and put a lot of work into that to make it happen so Michael and they're talking about the ownership and Jim on the players side And then the Australians The one the one thing I in a group like this the catches my my my interest wreck not that the Australian presentation doesn't have a lot to you know to offer but there's so often either presentations or suggestions. It's about things that we should be doing. In America that really doesn't and and holds up you know various entities around the around the world. It doesn't take into consideration the advantages that some of those operations have and had ad for instance. Australia has got one tote system. One tote company TAB and and TAB is is the country every racetrack every every signal goes through tab. We don't have that luxury so teasha and tried to make that happen with with his with his plan that that came very close to tying together the American toad. But it's nice to know what they're doing and you know for for instance there. They've started on a New Zealand. They've also started to incorporate fixed odds wagering into their into their offerings. And that you know we've been talking about for a long time but some of it's just not it's just not practical and some of these other entities have had the advantage of not being a hundred and fifty year old system that that grew the way it did in this country. Well like you said it is nice to hear how others do business and sometimes it's better than US sometimes. It's not but a perfect example. They've won one this one that where we have many whether it's claiming roller it's a betting system or whatever it is and so maybe it's just an example. Maybe this'll be like a while. Maybe we all got together and got under one umbrella we could do it. Speaking of the players tomorrow will be lobbing lucky enough to to lead a small group of local horseman and more than horsemen but guys at They do play but they do care about the game. I'm and I'm talking about Marshal Graham of course who I don't know if he's you've had Marshall on the show before a million times that's what I thought he. He's a professor if economy and et Rhodes College Memphis. I always crack up. I said so. He's he's he is one of the few guys that you know when he came home and went to the track and his buddies. Ah Degenerate Gambler. He he was able to say I'm an economist. And actually get away with it. Back cracks me up That wouldn't work for us and Jonathan Jonathan Kitchen of course who Eh Hce winner and with Peter as not one not one championship Paseo today in two thousand fifteen when to when the tour excuse me which is is playing in all the all the highpoint guy for any one of the top handicap Jonathan. Jonathan may change the rules. He made the rules. They have to rewrite the rules. Would he got the the two entries into the top right exactly. So Eddie Eddie. Does the money in the money pot players podcast with Peter Foreign attell and Impact coming of course. WHO's with the thoroughbred idea foundation? Whose whose job is to come up with ideas and set for so I'll be like you. Just be a herder just trying to guide the conversation and outsell wasn't feeling great called the other day and wanted to have south Audran as a track operator would have been perfect because he understands the game from both sides lives and we're going to try and get a few things a list of a few things that at the end of the conference that when we leave here we can actually do as opposed to saying that was a great idea to see next year. So that'll be the goal. They'll talk about all kinds of stuff but we had a little discussion with them during the during in the During the semester here and they come up with a couple of simple ideas that they'd like to see done by race tracks information passed passed along in a timely manner. And so we'll get to that so I think that'll be very interesting as well but A good lineup. Once again from the students here will be able to preservation. Some student presentations that. They've been anxiously nervously awaiting to do and gives them a chance to get their name out there and then we have tomorrow morning. The Bob Baffert Todd. PLETCHER will be on stage and just kind of be having a little conversation back and forth about About their experiences here at the university -versity of Arizona both of both of which are graduates. And then obviously there hall of fame careers and and their their and trials and tribulations along the way so Be Very cool. I mean they both serve or good guys in Liked to talk. And so that will be probably the the most attended event at the at the symposium certainly at this updated and speaking of anticipated can we we get you to come sit down for a couple of minutes that we're taking a break. Go do what you're GONNA do. And we'll have Dr Durenberger. I threatened I. Threatened threatened Dr Durenberger appearance. We're going to have her when we come back at the races. 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And that's my fault for not getting you on here sooner. Well I'm just happy. I walked in the door right at that moment and that just saw me come in. I'm kind of casper the ghost. Sometimes I sneak around and show up unexpectedly. So it's an unexpected. The pleasure then thank you. I explained as we hammer and I were hitting some of the highlights of the agenda for for symposium resume and in recent years your presentations and your angle on the topics of the day. The topics at large have been really important and repeatedly. Actually I've been doing the radio when even when you're sessions are and explain I how you even arrived in into this arena Lina. Well I could talk about that all day. So I'm going to try to give you the cliff notes version It was its evolution right so I began my regulatory career as a regulatory veterinarian. And so you're sort of on. The periphery veterinarian on welfare issues. And you hear that word and I would say that. It hasn't hasn't been until about two years ago that I really understood what that word meant. And how to talk about it. It was a fuzzy concept fuzzy. Fuzzy beat him being a veterinarian as it is to somebody who's not a veterinarian And about actually say. It was three years ago Bennett. Lebron asked me to give a presentation tation at the Saratoga Institute on Gaming and Racing Law and he handed me a topic with two words in it equine welfare and I went. Oh Man I gotta learn about this right and I have a little bit of an academic approach so I went and I studied and I said what's in the literature. What's out there? What do we know what's the vocabulary? What are the talking points So I did all the background work. So that people other people wouldn't have to write and It's been an evolution so that was maybe three years ago. I started talking about this at industry industry conferences and symposiums and every year. We have more information I'm getting more comfortable. Speaking about it. And my goal is to make the whole industry comfortable trouble speaking about it because it's a conversation that we need to be having global conversation and frankly I think the United States has been a little bit behind and so hopefully after today. We'll be talking about it more. It will get to the specifics of the you know the the social license to operate in a moment but I also want you to expand on your responsibilities. day-to-day too because you've been available to New York racing and have been just just a fabulous addition and a welcome addition and you've you've really done a lot in a short period of time are moving being up into the steward stand as well. Thanks for that Like everybody in racing. WHO's been around? We were a lot of different hats. And we've we all move around. It's the traveling circus but New York is really home I did go to vet school at Cornell and was very delighted to take my first regulatory job with the New York Racing Association. Gosh back in two thousand and three Since that time it had the same role with the California Horse Racing Board in California And have been stewart at a couple of different tracks So this was a natural progression Russian for me The New York Racing Association tracks have a storied. History of Stewart's who used to be examining veterinarians Dr Manny Gilman. Of course was the first. I think that he's the he's the first the first face on the Mount Rushmore Rushmore boy of course succeeding him was Dr Ted Hill. WHO's WHO's shoes as I have to fill but I think that's a really interesting synergy bringing the the regulatory veterinary roll up into the stuarts in on that topic Beck how how in literally fifteen years give or take? Have you seen the regulatory that work and pre-race examination and the the whole diagnostics and of course New York was again ahead of the curve by necessity. Starting in two thousand twelve with with the task force and with the identification of all the issues that now are are seemingly coming home to roost and and from that point. There's been there's been I. I don't even say reform innovation and Change but talk about pre erase veterinary examinations challenges of it. And how it's evolving again. We could talk all day about that and in fact At owner view owner view conference out at Breeders Cup. I did I was on a panel in my my panel. Topic was the role of the Regulatory Veterinarian. And that's definitely evolved regulatory veterinarians Ryan's art. Our what is our main function. What is our main role? It's to flag horses for further evaluation We don't diagnose treat or prescribe All all we do. Is We say timeout. Just like any other official in any other sport and then hopefully the private practitioner gets involved and there can be diagnostic imaging diagnostic workup. All of the things that the practitioners do and then there's a treatment plan or not in a in in hopefully well in the Amer I was GonNa say. Now I'm sure you've worked with Dr Arthur. And although Dr Arthur's been we've had that position equine medical director in California for ten years ish some ten with the two thousand fifteen years and although he's not in the stand he does work for the board and has been Responsible for many Many of the things that we've been doing for a while which is like you said pre-race testing out of competition testing He was he works. Works with the with the with the ECHO base Quite e Clint Entry Jab as you would come on. Let me show you how to get over that and I said you just bring me the stuff and we'll work with it and I am sure you were involved in this. We he got to the point where he would bring over lists of horses that are on the backside that you know. Sometimes it's like like. Hey how did they get in here to be begin with but some some trainers have projects that they bring in and we allow a few of those but more importantly if horses hadn't raced in a certain amount of time or hadn't hadn't been on the racetrack for a certain amount of time we would red flag them and we would go by he would send we send the vets fine pull them out and do a little bit extra look and and you know what little resistance it. I discuss anything when there was changed. And I'm sure we all know that but I think the work the work that that you guys have done don and started and created once. Everybody realizes that it's not just me if everybody is you know what you're GONNA do this for everybody. I think they go along with that and once the end game is just trying to have safer safer horse safer product. I think they agree with it. And and your your guys work has just been great to move this along in in a in a manner that that it should be. Well I think a lot of credit for that in New York goes to Dr Palmer and the things he's done there but I'll say let me just step back As a longtime regulators career regulator. I've never met a horseman who opposed to rule. I was just going to ask you about the horsemen role in this and why they've been painted so negatively when it's inappropriate horse men and women are opposed to rules not being enforced in fairly fairly. That's that's been my experience. I think to your point. You're right If if everybody's being treated the same if the playing field is the same for everyone and enforcement is the same for everyone. Everybody's on board and one of the things you'll hear me talk about today's days equine. Safety and welfare is everybody's responsibility and we're GonNa hit that home for about thirty minutes here like I take. That's the point. It's a well. Well you know. It's not only got a few horses up and that's not my problem. It's their problem. They're the big guys but you you hit it right on their. It's every anybody involved in this. Sport has to be involved in horse awareness. Wariness Safety and what can we do to make it. Better get on board and I think we're starting to get there. Unfortunately it's it takes a few things to happen sometimes to push us into that arena where we're all the same team but I think we're getting there well and I think you know the numbers. They're very small numbers. When you look at the real numbers right? The the numbers are small instead of make an impact in a small number. Statistically it's tough to do so what we try to do at least in New York. I can speak from personal experiences. We try to find some of the risk factors that are maybe unique to our program You know things that we're familiar with. Hey you know when I see X.. Then Y. sometimes happens and that may not be true at every racetrack and so I think having having boots on the ground it's great to have the big statistical database and it's so important for us to pull out risk factors but adding the boots on the ground knowledge the regional knowledge the local knowledge. I think is so oh hugely important to the success of any program and and along with that we I believe California was the first to have the quote safety stored. That's correct and boy. What a pain in the butt inst- case in the first couple ones? I like come on get away get away And but I'm glad they work Europe because we've found a great medium to where you know. Don't be too obtrusive when you go out to do your stuff but now I guess what. I'm glad they're out there and they'll come in and report you know. Hey Sa something in the morning Could you tell you outriders. ABC Hey we should watch out for this kinda stuff and now it's just become part of the program. I want these guys to come into the office and tell me what you see that maybe can work better whether it's whether it's you know. Hey there's half the guys out there wearing vests aren't wearing their helmets to you know. Hey maybe we need another outrider at the quarter pole things like that and we can talk about it and it starts at that level for its bed and try to prevent the problems before before the before they happen. Oh it's an invalid. It's best practice that you know the rest of the the rest of the country has tried to pick up on it's not always the same Type of position you know in California. It's a state imply position. We do have some race. Track operators have incorporated a similar position. And so the duties differ from track to track but it's invaluable and having that liaison on the ground who knows who to talk to what phone calls to make how to get things done hugely important and that gets right back to the topic. We discussed yesterday that you reacted when Tony Black on Thursday talked about communication there. There's got to be a clear and tight ring of mutual mutual respect and constant interaction and communication and when there is a vacuum as there was in the most recent incident spate. You're going to get the kinds of problems that arose which gets us to the public perception and in your back in your presentation today. Horse racing social license licensed operate. I don't need to make a flower introduction to questions. Why is the society at large? Why are they seemingly either unaware or unwilling or a whatever element that that has contributed to the you? You know the environment that we have right now of critique maybe a application from something like the social. The UH social media microphones but why has it happened. And how do we address it. I I don't know that I can answer why it has happened. I will say that. Well let's let's I ask the question. Why is social license? Because I find that a lot of just came here from Denver from the American Association of Bequem Practitioners Conference Veterinarians. A lot of them working on the racetrack had not heard that term before the outgoing president Dr Jeff. Berg talked about it in very briefly in his opening remarks and I had several people. Ask Me what is that. And I said. Oh come to Tucson and you'll find out so social license really is just consent. It's societal consent. went to permit an activity. That's outside the norm to take place. racing is outside the norm. Let's face it. We do derive income from animals. Most people don't derive income from animals. And so when you have an activity like that that's based you know frankly the whole para mutual industry is based on regulatory and legislative exception and There is the risk that the public can say. Hey you know. We don't think this activity should occur anymore. We've seen that certainly in greyhound racing What can we do about it so my talk today? The idea is to people a standard vocabulary and and an action plan To talk about how how we go forward. There's some tremendous things emerging Initiatives in the industry and this is meant to compliment them. It's not to stand in for them. But it's a way to bring everybody along in a collaborative word of dialogue so participant stakeholders operators and regulators. All need to develop vocabulary so we can start having an informed debate because the public's having it without us we need to be involved are they. Are they having it or are. We only hearing from a vocal minority with a much larger silent. Majority in fact that is looks as a scant. It's at some of these critiques. As as those from within the business so I understand your question I think the key. The context -ociety at large is talking about about how we treat animals and what our legal relationship and our legal duty is to animals. You're actually asking about the debate about racing in in specific and so I believe that's a minority. There are far more people who have no idea about the horse racing industry you know and and look live. Racing is the tip of the economic iceberg. Right I mean all of the agro-business goes the economic impact. Happens in the farms in the in the in the breeding area and all of the economies of scale that come with that But if the first time they hear about horse racing is a headline or they wake up in the morning and see on the morning news or whatever. That's a problem. And so to the extent that we can engage participants. The participants in racing have a far far greater collective reach than any single entity because they're individuals right there athletes in that that's true of the trainers jockeys horses have twitter accounts now and so the collective social media reach is huge and so to the extent that the participants in racing can have an informed conversation. While Tom. There's there's just no downside to that we certainly need some training in that in in that area and I'm hoping that once again again after you give your talk and People Watch listen and take down notes that when when we leave here. That smaller groups are formed regionally at Ed racetracks and this can be followed through so we can. We can be on the same page with a message that is sent and not only that message that sent sent correctly and the right message. Passage is being sent and I think sometimes we you know we from different regions where we find. We're pulling it at each other and messenger getting out there. But they're not saying the same thing and the difficulties of the variety of of entities within the within the industry itself makes it makes it it very hard to present a a uniformed message that I that we want to communicate and very often In in in when we are facing a crisis. There's that tendency or that presumption that you know. All the industry organs are looking at each other waiting adding to see who's going to speak for the industry quote unquote and it makes it very hard when you've got breeders and you've got the sales companies you've got the consigners seiners you've got the owners. You've got the racetracks you've got the tote companies you've got the horse players you this. This is unlike any other our crisis management response scenario to have this many entities across a horizon affected by a universal incident. So Yep so racing and I'll add to that a little context. You know racing when you think about it has always been zero sum game right so the the different stakeholders as you know if you get more than. I'm going to have to give something in order for me to get more. I'm going to have to take something from you. So there's a little bit of historical tug of war there So you've got that going on. I think people are more and more silo. I think all of the individual Groups are so busy doing what they're doing so that gets to the communication part. But here's what's great about our message that we're going to bring today and you'll see the whole day is filled with media relations and things like that. This is the great unifier. There is nobody working in racing. Who isn't pro-horse Welfare? And so if we can just get standard dialogue and all start that is the unified message and we can get there. I I have one hundred percent confidence or I wouldn't be here that's encouraging urging man and that and that that has been in whatever capacity you've been working in over over the period of time. You've ah you've really embodied that and you know have very very evenly and consistently presented that rationale now and it it just it has to permeate as many as many areas as it as it can. I think it it has developed by the way. You're too so talking about this. So call me just need to bring that out n people and let them get the same message and realize it yet we get the message out there that yes we do all care the job. They're the same. Problem is and so often when and again the amplification by echo chambers like twitter makes it very difficult when certain spokes folks individuals whose expertise is in a in a different area but they have to wear several hats and there's quotes are picked out and used as as a crowbar against the business business. There's gotta be a better more comprehensive approach to identifying and singling out out the voices that would be best able to respond and and of course you know whether it's an Alan Foreman Orman or an error Camelback Gorge Gag Liana or any of the entities. There's got to be I think more coordinated cordinated press release and reaction communication efforts. It just it it. It's nice when everybody responds. But it it. If we're opening ourselves up to further critique and and bludgeoning is not doing anybody any good. I don't know that that's a problem unique to racing and now you've got me wondering what quotes I will make today. You never you Dr Jennifer Durnberger with us and I don't know how as you said already. We've on topics that that you could take three hours. I got five days a week of three hours. And you can see listening. Dr Berger Y I'm embarrassed that we've not had these conversations yet but delighted to have them actually. No you've got you've got time. No I'm not it's up to you it's up to you figure. I can't thank you enough for this. I'm delighted I walk in the store. I appreciate it. Dr Jennifer Durnberger durnberger racing matters on on twitter and just impactful and important message is being delivered succinctly singly and consistently and thank you and thank you both for the good work that you do in the industry as well. We're all together pleasure to meet you and It's great you're smooth delivery I think is GONNA is gonNA head home. Because that's all we need a little columnists in these situations and you portray that. Well well thank you and I under that auspice bite my favorite LBJ quote. Don't spit in the soup. We've all studied it. Dr Jennifer Durnberger. Let's take a quick break. We've got so much more to do. Live at symposium. Things are just getting going back after this just recently with feedback on Sirius. XM Radio At home at the tracker on the go express bed is your way to play. The races express bet provides legal insecure online and mobile. Oh betting on more than three hundred of the world's top tracks and all the big events and when you sign up for an express that account today with Promo Code Vic that's B. Y. 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When it comes to horses we mean business for more information visit business business dot dot edu slash equine Now back to at the races with Steve Dick on Sirius. XM Radio you know who Stop Dick Wisdom and this child the Cincinnati Eh. Red Zone Von it-it's he's dancing was td well A Christmas song that is unlike most of the others and we think we added it last year and it is quickly quickly became one of our our absolute the favorites and at some point before we we wrap up the the Christmas season on the twenty third. We will give you the Christmas card from a hooker in Minneapolis and its entirety. And there's nothing quite like it and of course the track reference can't be yeah can't can't be missed in there and I'll send out I'll send out a For those of you. That have never heard that you'll you'll enjoy it We really enjoyed having Dr Durnberger. Join us a wreck and your first introduction that Dr Jennifer. It's one of those crazy. The things in this game usually run into people that you've heard about in and heard speak and heard of but that's the first chance meeting like I said now I'll see her everywhere which is great and we'll let a well-spoken she's and she's really cut it together. She knows it and I think she knows it. It takes a calm person like that to get to get the weather. The news across in in in a manner that is calming itself rather than in some somebody up there ranting was big in the news. I wanted to just touch on one thing that I don't think you touched on this week and I was reminded a couple of days ago by David Jerkins from Delmar. That it's been it's been two years since the San Louis Rave fire the Lilac fire that They called December seventh. Of course December seven. Th is a date that will literally live in infamy for us as a country but but December seventh was also the day of the fire in the night the day and night of that. Fire and flashback to some of the scenes. I went through some of the pictures and my phone at that. Reminded me of that night when Actually Bobby Troeger stall man and I when we decided we had to maybe take a drive down. There weren't lead in and had to had stolen in the back of a horse van to get onto the site and and the operation was in full swing meaning gene vans and drivers. That didn't even know anybody were just pulling into the into the facility and load horses and taking them out and and The recovery time afterwards with the with the things that dome are dead and the people that that brought food and goods and and tack and Horse Supplies and speaking of mattress actress Maxon and five hundred mattresses for people to sleep. It was a it was a real real telling time for the game and I kind of contrast that to how everybody came together and we fought through this Donmar stepped up. People stepped up and you know in times of crisis like that some people step up and some people step back and and the people that stepped up really really got through it and and there's some amazing stories about some of the horses that made it through it and and all four Bay Belvoir Bay so David and I obviously was works at Delmar racing secretary there and we were involved in putting together some of the backstretch stuff along with many people getting a go fund money in and getting it out to some of the people that needed it and it brought me back to a story story when when that couple of those mornings when things were quite organized and we're trying to figure out how to get some money and an owner walked in and I'm not gonNa say it was because he didn't want it to say who it was but a a an owner who who I really wouldn't expect to pull out his checkbook and said uh how many grooms are back here and I said I don't know hundred or so. And he goes. Well I WANNA make sure they all get five hundred just wrote out a check for fifty grand gave it to me Manas just like wow and knew somebody said I'll tell you laughter words but this is the kind of Guy Kinda Kinda said just came through your own sources as a big guy but then you just sit here. Just just just let me just me and my family here when you guys pass out the money just all. He wanted to see the happiness. But you know some some strengths have come out of that and what it does show. Is that in this game when we when we do pull together we can get things done and in and we're not quite at that type of crisis there but but if everybody can get on the same page we will get through we have now and continue on and it the Joe Longo we go and starting to see people filter down amount It it it was so I mean so jarring I mean the the video and it's funny that the fact that it's two years you would have you would think and not not that we need or should be bringing up the kind of follow up on and some of the things we discussed with Dr Durnberger but anybody who saw that and and that that saw that video hat to be moved and and hearing the stories of horsemen and the personnel that ran into into the flames to save horses. You you you would think that that would resonate against the The individuals that that attack the industry industry at large. Well they just on without thinking went into to save their save their voices. I mean because that's the deal. It does not a thinking situation. That's a reaction and and that's a natural reaction and we like to think that that we would do similar to the same thing that happened and of course the difficult thing for for those. That aren't aware of the horses mentality in a panicky situation. Listen shockingly. They will very often in a barn fire. They will run back. There's all they that's where they're most secure and there's countless countless stories of horses is being led out of a barn but then running back in because the the panic. They're gonNA go to where they're where they feel safe and I it's it's horrific perfect. I mean They you will think that a flight animal would would sense that that they're being given an opportunity to flee and many he did obviously at Saint Louis because it took days to find you know a few including Belvoir Bay. Well they were trying to return to the stall so now being now you know. There's a message out there in the world when you there's a fire on shut the stall door so they can't get back in the hall and we'll continue on and as as you know. The horses were released there and directed onto the racetrack. And some didn't and but just the whole community were would we're going around picking up horses taking them home feeding them taking care care of him and there was somewhere defied months later as being alive on a farm Jackson were picked up on a Just wanted to mention that the recovery and San Louis Ray downs is alive and well and and you know many many of the top trainers still. You'll you'll train horses there. I think we'll find out on Thursday. which is what two days from now? The KNICKS CHR be meeting. They're talking about putting even more stalls down there so will will once again will listen to the California horse racing board broadcast on that. But I wanted to bring that up just because an and A good of you know. Just a show of togetherness in Ed just Dave and I were talking. Wish we could all just get together now. And and in and rummage through this thing. What we're we're going through it Like you said this morning to me two years and I. I saw the references the last few days and I just kind of shocked that it was it was space. It's been two years apart. The surprise me. Let me get a couple of notes in hammer to before The the top of the hour and before we get too far Past the weekend it was fun to get the conversations that we did yesterday which Areo Dwyer with Britney Russell and of course as they both noted on their way to monia sale today day. And we'll get a couple of headlines in. I'm sure even tomorrow speaking of Laurel Beside Hello Beautiful Win in the Philly Championship on the boy side. You McMahon with Laddy Liam and Laddy Liam was third choice but there was actually three horses that were essentially two to one and change raging whiskey back to black and Laddy Liam Liam two to one to ten to one to thirty two one and it was Laddy Liam who was again Sheldon Russell. Wire to wire and I've mentioned you know the the dispersal sale of Joe Beceker and yet as I referenced on Friday Here he was with a purchase and he wins and so few more of those kinds of wins. And maybe maybe maybe he won't leave The business I should mention too that this was also an Ellen Charles Bread winner. He'll would stables and Mrs Charles called her yesterday. The first lady of Maryland racing speaking of First Ladies of Maryland Racing and his bandit Jerry rob she has been so spectacular or all year long for those that haven't noticed she's nine for eleven phenomenal nine for eleven. Now's like another Maryland. Blast from the past extra heat who won amandus amount of races Vega and and has banned it. The great notion Maher Five Years Old and Jerry Rob a course bread and his band it no guts. No glory farm the West Virginia's where she was dropped she it has only. Let's say she only got beat back in May and July in Jamila and in the ski pat other than that. She's one every start. She was fourth in both of those races. And essentially she. It's funny. She found herself a little further back in those races than than normal. And I wasn't able to to make up ground when when necessary. But she has been absolutely amazing. And congratulations the Jerry Rob. Who does a great job the X. Men Xavier Peres aboard as he always is without his band unbelievable and let me see dollars and cents this year? What is she up to She picked up forty five thousand so she's now one seven hundred thousand in her career and this year over four hundred thousand dollars So this is the kind of horse that when it comes is to when it comes to the Philly Mayor Sprint category. I'll this is the kind of horse I love to like. Give a little nod to put third in the balloting. Because it's only the first place vote that really means anything but you just give a little a little salute the doors like this to say well done during. Yeah absolutely I love doing that and then in the other race. Another hard hitting veteran how. `Bout Jeff Runco with Mrs Zang's wonderful Louis Field and he's going to turn six as well January first and the great notion gelding here with Hector. Carmona's nice swin. This came in the bender. Memorial everybody in Maryland. Remembering Howard and Sandra Ben Bender and Louis field another kind of personal favorite That this had another solid year at h five and this is saying bred. gelding out of her crowd-pleaser Mayor Lewisville heat has also These up to five hundred thousand in his career and he's a Hit the Board in seven of eight this year so that was The rest of the action at Laurel. We got you ah much. I thought it was funny yesterday. Who took my time? I make Bob Bob Choose me of Of the time believe me you'll get his time. Well it addition to his wins on Saturday. There's a lot of say there's a lot of excitement and the plenty of buzz about as we will coast and in fact who was it yesterday. That brought it up was Johnny John. I think brought up as it will cost and how impressive the made win was with all kinds of trouble later on that card yesterday. Congratulations and say Andrew Learner and we talked to Andrew after Queen. BDU I when I when I got Andrew I reached out to you for for a phone number and a For Learner who's really had a wonderful year. This was a real breakthrough horse. Of course won the Betty grable. Go and seven eighths and now she stretches to a mile sixteenths and wins the great three by Koa. I had nothing but good things to say about Andrew Learner. A young a a young trainer came up a couple years ago. And what I liked about him he he worked for. I'm trying to was trying to think here as you were saying. We worked for uh-huh but he worked for somebody for for an amount of time before decided to come out on his own and he did everything the right way and what I mean by everything the right way back. When he was getting ready to go out on his own he came in sat down? told me his plan to. This is what I'd like to do and we ran through threw. It was time for him to get a few horses. We went through the stall application process. He put down exactly the horses that he had. We gave him the stalls calls for that. And any time something you know I just stay in touch. Don't don't try and pull something you know. Don't put some phony horses down on the application vacation. Don't don't try and say things and do things that you're not going to do. And so every time that he made a move where they wanted to bring a couple of horses in he showed me the horses those horses. Actually I showed up and you know we like that and he just took things slow had a great positive attitude. He had some owners behind him. And does those are the ways that we you know. We like to see other guys. That don't quite do the same thing. pull a few fast ones. Say they're bringing in a couple of horses bringing a couple others. You know doing some program. Graham Training Andrew did everything right and so whatever he's doing he's on the upward swing. I will tell you that I think he's upwards of thirty horses now maybe even more because people see see that he he's done the right thing and I think the fact that he did put in a which one call an apprenticeship with With someone else I can't think of it as a come up with it but just did everything the right way. So when you see his horses in there he he popped with the first time starter. I think the other day at twenty two one on the rail. I can't remember who loafers loafers. Boy loafers I think it was the first time starter. Anyway it So you start seeing winds from all different kinds of class horses assist from from from Andrew Learners so tack that name away and congratulations to them. We could said he got his first win for steak. Win With this Philly and now as I graded. Sacred Congratulations Dandruff. And just keep up the good work. We had a really fun. We had a really fun conversation with them. And I don't know if we're going to get to him this week week. But he's thirty years old and he talked about how he how he came in and we joked. Because you know here we are Zona. He went Arizona Zona State and so I never say kind of poking fun to be honest and the guy that he came that he. There's a kind of parallel. If you remember Mike pender he was. He was doing stuff with Mike pender. And he's had a a terrific relationship with Janine Sahadi. WHO's been if I'm not mistaken about Sahadi I yeah no Janin's Janin's been encouraging him along her for a lot of support and but you know he? Absolutely benefited with some penders. Owners came aim his way and really gave him up and and it gets ages because owners are out there and you know sometimes they get bad advice on on who who to go to and I learned a long time ago. Don't think you can match up an owner with trainer because you can't think a perfect Matt works together so my my my three was I give you a list of ten. They said go out and do your own research but when you when when an owner gets gets a guy like Andrew Learner a young guy it takes a little shot with them but sees the professionalism that he already has an as being honest with them which I can see that he is We're gets out. Hey who's your trainer. Oh I got this new Guy Learner. He's doing a great job. Oh really I'm looking for a trainer and it snowballs and and that's what happens. I think he's got thirty thirty five horses by right now. I just Derek Lawson just sent me a note. He's got fifty fifty horses about that. I mean that's that's that's how it goes in and and I think he'll he'll end up at some point you've got to put a little bit of a ceiling on that to get it to go from ten to twelve to to the next stage to twenty twenty or thirty and then to get to fifty unit a slow down a little bit. Gather that up. Enjoy a joy the joy the ride a little bit and move Yvonne but the graduations to Andrew Young one of those young trainers that we need more and more of out there. It was really a lot of ways just looking up and down at my at my. I do the fake tally each week and I put it on Derby trail on. I put it up on twitter often and it's much it's as much a point of reference for me you know that Ed with the buyers and the stallion and the the trainer Jock just gives me something to work off of during the week when we're recapping yesterday we talked to Brittany Russell and Jerry O'Dwyer talking now about Andrew Learner. I mentioned yesterday Erin. McLaughlin winter in Pennsylvania with in the nursery. So there's right there there's four trainers Ah You know in the in the thirty five and under set and I it's very encouraging and at the same time. Let me fold in a couple of war veteran names and successes from the weekend before we take our break Alad Foreman is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. I'm just digging here for for because I know I've got it and mountain of papers the weekend all the weekend charts the action down to Tampa Arnaud Delacour a winner in the Sandpiper and the Danielson Tena swept the stakes but Lucretia the winner of the Sandpiper and Arnaud Delacour Nice For for him but the name that I've got to get out there just because I know him a little bit Through my late friend. Malcolm PSUNENIS and Bobby Raymond Bobby off from New England. I'm thinking about it rings a little bell but I don't think so. The only Raymond I knew is Tim. Raymond and I don't know if there's a connection Bobby Raymond. A New England racing veteran and he's got a very nice sores that I'm not sure how things worked we got. Got To find out out how it came to be. But Zeno boys wins that inaugural Sodano as well but Zeno boys upset at a big price and I was delighted to see Bobby. Raymond get that. Get that win. And he sent out a horse for a couple of horses for my life. Friend Malcolm welcome and most notably in Memoriam nickname junior and Bobby Raymond a veteran turn. He's been around a long long time. And the New England faithful will appreciate him winning the inaugural we'll see where Zeno boys goes How `Bout also let me mention what went on the weekend at Gulfstream before we get too far afield and Gusts Alonzo? odds-on was there on Sunday for the Cup of the career. This has been a sensation hammer. The this has been one of the great successes. Ah Anywhere in the United States at a racetrack bringing bringing in this series of races for Central and South American bread and and managed runners gusts said the atmosphere and Chuck Simon to Chuck said the place was packed and music dancing and carrying on said it was fabulous. I think it's the third year. Maybe that sounds third fourth year that they've done this and just taken over there there race basically weekly and brought the brought the whole country with them and I. It's one of those days that they've created out of nothing and I've I've heard nothing but just like you said they turned. Turn the place into a party for the for the weekend. And that's good. They had a claim. It crowned. There was that this week our Saturday was this weekend as well so start start of the visit there. We ended the quote extra MPN ship out while that works on Saturdays and Sundays The the claiming crown. Let's give a quick rundown here the express odd Michael Moore with brother Chubb The Jersey Bread. And there's those those three brothers All out of that That's out of a job. There's I think there's three three of them. If I'm not mistaken but brother job has got to be getting up. In Years wins the express and ten to one that there was the the slipper the glass slipper Lies Star for Peter Walder and the the staff dash thinking cow town account town cat as the favourite this was. I mentioned that I thought rich April was was going to be dangerous and live. This was April's horse with the Georgina Baxter and Leona Board in the rapid transit royal squeeze Elizabeth Elizabeth Douglas Paco Lopez. Who's just been unconscious? Lopez one four. These and then on Sunday came back and was terrific as well. We'll get to that. Then you had the the Canterbury Shaky Shabazz in the turf sprint and he had to work at it. Good old rocket heat. Who I think is GONNA GONNA turn eight if I'm not mistaken? Rocket Heat made them work and Checky Shabazz under Paco. Who who trays rocket heat? Now rocket heat has ooh rocket heat rocket heat the MIC to news. Oh aquidneck Mike. Ah Mike how. `Bout that Nice then you had the iron horse and this was this was the one and only this was loach coach. Lucia striking like thunderball running one to sixty six to one over twelve to one. And he's he's unbelievable he's the best one hundred and thirty five dollar winter. Pay Six hundred seventy eight dollars and change. The try was fifty cent try was seventeen hundred. The super was three thousand ninety four. And I'm sure that Lou Chad every bit of of all of this betty. He's the ultimate if you're not if you're not in it you can't win it exactly. He's the best. How about Of course Peter Walter. WHO's back in full swing? You Know Peter. Peter was sidelined for a period and now is Back at it and AH good for painter. I I've known Peterson's he came on the scene at Monmouth Park in the inner ninety s and You know kind of Brash Kid. Kimberly came along and won. A few races ended up down in Florida and decided to take a little break in life and and get things straightened up and and he he does those way around horse so I'm glad to see him back on the scene and You know some people you just have a little you know you you root for regardless and peters one of those guys in and it was always happy to see him go job he does a good job around the barn and everything else so good for Peter the Thira lucky long and this was Baako again as the favourite for Rohan CRICHTON. Then you had the jewel Laya tone and adjacent service and Jason of course had a fabulous Saturday winning three of them down there and then back winning the cigar mile. Of course. This dunkirk Leah Tone and little under even money and then in the Emerald mugs automatic read very well for service and Palko again so paco with four on the card. That was your claiming crown and on Sunday. I did see I did see Mike. welches follow up to the action and You know it's funny that that one horse that won Mexican Bread Kucan Ah staying around and you know as came came up I guess it was two years ago right for the for the Coptic Koreb. And he's going to stay. I just look and I did I did also note to Joe. Talamo moved moved one race closer to two thousand years one away now and he. He was rolling along till somebody brought it up and then he had trouble getting that last one. That's the were hoping he gets that that That two thousand out of the way moves on. And of course you know Joe's moving onto Oakland and end up Standing Kentucky for the foreseeable future and I for one will be glad to see Joe there because I don't a Lotta people down that way Starting to pick up a few. It seems like there's gotTa be plenty of people that you're familiar with That are going to have stalls. And it'll be operating parading out of Out of Oakland. 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Part 3: Laffit Pincay III, Peter Eurton

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Part 3: Laffit Pincay III, Peter Eurton

"L. P. Three what's happening full that up to let the that up a little closer yeah my my commitment is not as good as not as good as the NBC equipment. I'm sorry Good Morning Good morning not bad it it took until what Friday afternoon before I'd seen you just looking in the wrong places that's true that's true because I I have my own I don't know I I I'm here till nine o'clock in the morning then my go and sh- May dre around around Los Angeles other ways to prepare for the Breeders Cup than socializing over coffee and free breakfast you know well and by the time I'm I'm done most of the socializing is in the books you know they've people have come in and they've gone but the the weekend came and and went and I haven't I won't have a chance to watch the broadcasts until I get home how how did everybody everything I think very proud of of our coverage everything felt normal for a while we got future stars Friday and it went without the incident and midway through Saturday you were so caught up in the championship racing you were so caught up in the stories you for everything felt normal felt like Breeders Cup and I think Tim Laden's headline said it best one for a long short and that that I think is is being echoed everywhere and in some cases there are people who never weren't even aware for a while I did not know until Baffert until listening in on on some Baffert questions the dichotomy let me of the the scene with Vino Rosso in micro Poli in Viola and all their friends and all their family family and todd pletcher like that is the essence of the Breeders Cup that's what it looks like sounds like feels like to win a Breeders Cup event when it Breeders Cup classic this guy had a pretty nice celebrate celebrate on Friday Peter and and you're watching that and then it's brought to your attention that somebody didn't make it to the wire and it's it's the microcosm of the highs and lows in the sport all happening simultaneously how how did you guys handle it on the network it's I watching it on a monitor and I'm I missed I did not see Mongolian gigabyte step I was focused in at the time on McKinsey and Vino Rosso I missed it it was brought to my attention the Mongol groom had been pulled up and I went immediately up towards the top of the track to talk to one of the vets it was a I think a while we were trying to gather some information before passing along to the audience who may or may not have seen it watching the replay from home it's like how did you miss it but watching a race it's live it's different there's a lot going on there's a million people I'm watching it with a monitor in the winter circle and eventually once we did have some information we were able to talk to the vet and just passed that along the injury obviously at the time we didn't know that it would be that it would be a catastrophic injury and the information that we had readily readily available as all we had to pass along that moment then a good what our later give or take the the news coming coming you mentioned the family celebration and I'll end this microphone to Peter had for for the second time in in three years one of our on site Celebratory conversations is with Peter because three years ago it was champagne room we were talking talking about and of course storm the court you've now got yourself a juvenile filly and a juvenile victory a couple of trophies at home yes no no it's quite a good feeling I gotta be honest the big surprise they'll be I'll be honest with you it was huge surprise I didn't expect but when the gate opened in the inside horse sitting break as well and then we were given the lead there was a thought that maybe might do the same thing as he didn't just made win because he is so brave you know he seems run best right now on the lead versus just tracking horse because I think you may have seen as workout with the moment sippy he put him mm to sleep behind Mo for a good while and then he tried to get him to respond and he did but it wasn't the same as it is when he's in front and doesn't like to let horses by why'd you put the blinkers Zaandam to and at that point when you've got him you know when you've got him running you know it seems it's the work I mean they didn't obviously didn't didn't bother him at all he liked a seem to respond to the blinkers he's had him on for a good three weeks since The American Farrow and there is I work after the America for we we worked in without him because we didn't want to be fooled by how fresh she was and and happened happen to too keen and then the second and third works after that it was just a no brainer to to keep mom because his focus was one hundred percent versus kind of a he'd get into the bridal the need to kind of look around and then you get back in it so it's something that Flavian was aware of and brought it to our attention well it it says strictly became a matter of controlling the pace up front and then he was tackled by the one of the other surprise prize horses of the weekend Wayne Right the comes to town with Mr Ready Cops mystery horse essentially coming off of turf mile and no door threatened but just could not get in front no you don't you look at the Horse Sablan horseriding absolutely huge and to be denied a little bit but he actually may have gotten by me I'm not one hundred percents you gotta head and front or nose in front of us and I think with the blinkers added he really didn't see him coming versus when he could actually see the horse coming he responded much earlier yeah but we're lucky to have some more slept than I think a lot of it had to do with Bob sending giving him a little Brielle backside by giving us a whole length of a space versus right on our nose in knowing that we might have a chance to go all the way I think he probably at that point took us for granted a little bit and and why shouldn't he sixty forty fifty to one and done the same but he was the perfect spot was I think he wouldn't change these places at all as it turns out no and you know winner at first asking del Mar go and five and a half and then part of the incident with eight rings is in the in the futurity and several times over the last several weeks on Air I kept saying you know storm the court I it's sort of an incomplete record and you know everybody focusing on Dennis's moment nate rings with the with the two dash is dash lines in there and that storm the court art you you didn't necessarily have a complete read on his trajectory and his development when you've got that that incomplete race ace mixed into his piece no that's one of the reasons why we did come back and run them again and the American because we didn't really have any idea just how good he was and how you GonNa pass up that opportunity to Run A horse like that when you know he loves the race track speeds got such a big advantage here in the one break slow and then the American Fair what was the other horse the other American Farrell that scratched didn't truly scratch wasn't able to to enter of couches now you guys remember the other American family because he was a big part of the speed too so just Erkan theorem American possible the source and so it just all everything worked out well for us for the handicappers I think a a up until a few days before the race three-horse Race Max Field eight rings Dennis's moment just turn the page move right along and then max fields builds out dennison's moment drawn inside really no bargains. There was some negative vibes about eight rings that it just wasn't you know wasn't impressing yeah that's a brand new headset yeah so yeah and then he wasn't you know lighting up the track in the morning either so all of a sudden it seemed like there was opportunity for another and storm the court takes full advantage and there are certain performances on Breeders Cup stages that will will never forget where we were never forget how we felt when we watched it and there are certain stories unfold after and and Peter would watching you and in Brittany is going to be a Breeders Cup moment that that that is going to be one of lasting impression we watching that for a long long time to come I mean that was Her reaction the last sixteenth of a mile was for me it was an epic but a so much fun she gets she gets more excited than you do she dies I can recall three years ago when when she paying rupe down and she was she was quivering she was just that day in funny enough enough we got the same box seat as we sat in three years ago which was really weird didn't ask for it but it's Kinda maybe that's a lucky seat I don't yeah but I'm GonNa ask for because that would be but if it happened to get who you know this is a sixty thousand dollar purchase our our we should talk about Ryan ex-lion and give us a you know all the the picture going back to April we were looking we're probably probably somewhere at another bar and win Rhett called us up and says this is horse in the ring on not knowing actually backing that's walking around and I really like him I don't know how we miss telling you about him earlier but so we ran over there we looked at and we liked what we saw in the back of rain we wouldn't saw video and it was a no brainer you know here's the horses sold for five thousand as lean and then we purchased him for six the just it all worked out really well then we find out that that he's not predisposed nominated for his first race so the way he trained why not so we put up the twelve thousand now we're essentially the breeder as far as the awards so they clients did got paid back on that pretty good so I'm so happy they decided to do that and not not too early to bug about plans yeah I mean we're not gonNA do anything silly running back at La Salle or which isn't silly I mean he's is a great opportunity to to continue the run but we're going to more than likely wait till January and kind of figure out what we WanNa do let the horse he's has grown so much in the last three or four months and give them a chance to fill out a little bit we won't take him out of training so to speak but just kind of lighten ended up a bit just thinking back to take charge branding I just about to say phillies at sixty two one came back and won the starlet another great one win crown two year old abby had the Delta Princess that you in the princess and and somehow I mean the rest in the yeah she wrested the the championship or the eclipse really important to us to yeah it's not a given who's GonNa win a chat at all sorts of one the champagne he's GonNa come back right was it the champagne maybe next probably probably yeah has lost no more great ones but that shouldn't I mean he's a really Nice Colt so and they allowed the Breeders Cup isn't isn't the end all be all for the two year old races it's heavier weight it is a final exam and you combine that win much like there's a lot of randy and then another towards the time between we now in in May of a lot of genuinely good three year olds could can come out of the woodwork you know we know justifies for one I mean there's horst I every two year old I mean as anybody ever done that and I don't think so so there's a lot of opportunities gonNA come up to be a lot of fun that's what makes it all all so much fun is trying to plan something The you talk about the purchase and and where this started out of being first of all being by court vision and who is standing in Pennsylvania thirty five hundred out of a Tahoe run mayor and there was really any kind of potential to the courts court visions an interesting an interesting sire to and the potential on the turf and and the main I mean what we're what was your tableau to to start with him I mean did you did you think in of course obese you're on synthetic watching the breeze so was there was there turf consideration how did you view him as you got your eyes on and hands on them regularly not really thinking about turf the only time I'll start thinking about turf on a horse look it up or asking questions his if they're not we're working very well on dirt and and then I'll look pedigree well is there any turf in there because he's not really doing much but he did everything right when it comes to working in training forwardly so actually really no but we do know that he does have a tremendous amount of pedigree for the grass and he's got such a great mind that I think he could settle off the pace in in a turf race but we're not really thinking about that right now and the sixty thousand dollar purchase price it was right in virtually everybody's budget ah that that operates in the game I it these stories are so encouraging it yeah I thought between coincidently ECORSE British idiom by flashback who standing in Louisiana for thirty five hundred so the forty thousand British I it's amazing I I mean that's that's one of the things that I think motivates people when when they see that you know you don't have to you don't have to buy one for you know for six figures high six figures seven figures to get to this level this game is always been I mean from as far back as I can remember there's always been those purchases that allow allow the average guy to be at the top level for not a whole lot of money so and that continues to be that way so that's great that was watching the in the juvenile fillies it was done of a Lo Che eight hundred thousand dollar purchase British idiom forty thousand dollar purchase in those slugging it out I mean she the one who got her I think her beat but didn't didn't help it look though though that wasn't about brilliant that was a battle of attrition British Idiom Donald J they were those were too tired tired phillies late they run the mile sixteen forty seven something like that invest on that topic and of course speaking of the rail giant expectations Ri- was was down inside and that was that was he just he was a lot of people were a lot of people thought he was clever I in a in a clever spot in the dirt mile he had his backers the thing about the two turns for him and he's broke bad several cages and these run well the thing about going to one intern seven eighths or one turn mile he's got a lot of time to get outside instead of getting trapped inside the whole time when you're that far out of it in misprint seven eighths of a mile you clear outside and get yourself out of the the dirt and in this and that and think about a mile you're you're stuck in it I mean you're we're going to get I turn so you gotta go you gotta stay behind everybody you can't just go into the I turned eight wide so that's the biggest problem and then he broke slow he didn't ask him to run at all even there so we just can't let them settle back there and you just got to where you didn't tolerated anymore so amazing how differently we look at the maybe it's it's handicapping anti capping or a level of Prestige admit mile you look at it Breeders Cup Mile and what if what a difference just conference of a race track makes the difference between between one turn mile versus to be different you know it's more about maybe the trip and raising them overall God given talent honestly I don't Oh really think he loves this race track he did win the San Antonio but that was a few years ago before all the the the problems that we're having the track is to be honest much slower than the now the the kickback is a real kickbacks bearish del Mar he he loves that race track He loves New York tracks I mean he liked there he gets the configuration that that would be preferable to Santa Anita's for some reason he hasn't really clicked here he's Ted some poor outings here while we're at it telling you how to run your operation next that's still in our thoughts to good Oregon Oregon's just how I mean he didn't take anything much out of him I got a couple of scratches from the from the break and but he tends to get a lot of those we heard from Donna was talking to Donna brothers either Castellano right after the phillies with British idiom and that's what he was talking about what he was most is proud of you know just the lack of experiences to third career start to be exposed to that kind of kick back and I mean she was she was covered he was in for a fair down run right through it was impressive him most yeah if you can do it here you can do it anywhere and then that's what we miss here's those kind of races where you can see of course because the kick is a lot different here I mean the comes back I think from what I've been told from the Jackson it hurts and they can do anything help that out that would be I would be good because everybody's thinking that they're not one two three four within two three legs of lead you're not gonna get anything and and that's their thought process leaving the gate so you turn into a lake closing horse into a or it's gotta stay up into the race separation between first and last is is quite a bit I mean and it's not by coincidence that you see such close fields finishes on the on the turf the dirt race they're allowed to on the race situation where it's it's a some horses really taken to the track and others who just kind of spin the reels yeah the from the footing is one thing but the kickback shouldn't influence the outcome of a race beside beside of course your second Breeders Cup winner and you record yeah I think you got the two wins in ten starts total we Miss Frank E. ran a big race going back a few years she did who won that race he has remember it was it really Nice Philly Steve Lamassery my really going to beat her she was freaky talented you ve also got a horse I wanNA bring up the one couple of weeks ago at the start of the meat that warriors moon she's a California bred filly I think thinks she she could have wandered for star grass and del Mar I think she got moved a bit early and then she showed her stuff the other day but breath I think the filial one that raising of winning a st an open ended stake race of warriors another warrior Horse Course Craig Lewis and he put her in the dirt the other day didn't quite do as well bow kinda wait for her until we find another then for cal breads but if not we'll have to run against open company now you had you had a very good meat actually when you think about it right you had the older cow bred Philly Doc Eko doc Eko Kiko cheeks were explained today right now I don't know if I'm butchering the La- the Middle Name Echo a lot of people call it Waco but this is the leashes doctor is a doctor Michael Rico I can cry and then she's out of sandy cheeks so so that's where that came sharing comes up with some really original names and we love her for so she enjoys taming though it's fun it's challenging there's there's times when you send them in and they they they x amount for some silly reason or another what's the biggest difference Peter when you hear the morning after a win like a Breeders Cup stage especially perhaps an unexpected win on breeders just got staging experienced it twice showing up at the barn and seeing everybody the following morning way how is a ton of fun just to amongst your peers and just in your in your barn and how much everybody enjoys enjoyed Royd it all the accolades she get it's almost as much funds that that day to the next morning I couldn't sleep very well that's all I got about four fifteen four thirty in the track was only open until six so it wasn't like there was a lot outta here like an hour later so yeah so I I think I went home and took an hour napping got back your F- for Saturday's Card but it's a it's hard to explain unhealth much fun it is what what's the Taco what's the TACO joint that I heard I heard it was a TACO party it's funny me Brit and my wife we just stayed home and and and made it Taco Friday at home so I went on the air is a school night Brit Back Yeah we did go out the next night we went to Celestino Nice Italian yes absolutely we made an appearance at the Langham and stayed there talk about eleven or so so we kind of celebrated the following day everybody was same ownership they were little down at the racist for Saturday because of giants race but they got back motivating the protect split. Yeah somebody told you you're going to win you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA send out to on Breeders Cup weekend you're going to win one the up to track you I think you take it I came back well we forgot forgot about the race already so he's route three straight years hasn't he invaders got he has and it's not been as best Gig I mean even in the Pegasus he's had had some tough times they're all wrong distances for him from the Santa Anita Handicap amount a quarter to take his out of the twelve whole Breeders Cup last year I rarely run prior to the month before was a big a big race he ran that day and and I thought he would but that track is it's different from day to day race to race and it was just a bit loose forum he has it you watch that Catalina Cruiser race where it looks like he's going to beat the cruiser before he has it he does have the ability he does have it at six years old and we hope he and he's a horse he's not a gallon he's still a horse yeah one can maybe somebody'll WanNa make a Messiah by frost giant but he'll keep keep running as long as he's healthy Peter you've done it again I can't be happier for you and it it's now it's become a tradition I I assume there's going to be moral tradition it's a tradition the Monday after Breeders Cup at Santa Anita you come on live yeah well when they do back here again for a while we'll see about that yeah there's no no way to know it's hard it it it it's it's they've tried so hard and they're doing such a an awesome awesome job fortunate not that happened count the the thing to do is to focus on on all the a on all the positives and one thing it certainly demonstrates is just how elusive Lucido this this task is whether it's whether it's looking on paper for Red flags whether it's it's pre-race examinations scans everything else and one of the biggest challenges is that invariably there's going to be the horse's that that don't present any any negatives they can how they can do everything they want it I mean and and I I know that this is not going to help you help any of us in the in the mainstream press but to try to explain to somebody that a hind ankle ankle is not a typical we don't see horses going wrong with hind ankle injuries I it's just not not not a lot of interest in detail exactly that they'll be seems to want to hear any any of the you know the material elements of this they they wanna make summary Judgments about what's involved and who's involved and there's no ready solutions there's only the different exactly you cannot focus when thing in attack that but now we at at this stage right now given the given climate it feels as though you know you can having entire summer of racing at del Mar without one catastrophic injury not an entire summer in the way things are right now if you have if there is one accident if there is one horse injured wind up having to be euthanized you're you're you're back to square one agree I it and that's what's that's what's so what's so arduous it is that because it is mercurial and ah because it's random in a lot of ways we can but saying for years Chuck Simon was the first person ten years ago just start saying don't try to make safety quote unquote and and fatality statistics a marketing tool it's not going to ever be because there's going to be clusters there's going to be circumstances this game is played outdoors on on but whether whether it's synthetics or whether it's on dirt and grass their ambient conditions this is dangerous and why is that so difficult difficult for a certain group of people observing or or reading casually to understand it it's dangerous I think they they they must realize that they're not saying that they don't now they're not they're not acknowledging a tater now they they don't care they're just making a judge said where people and we're cruel and we're abusing its if they don't they you can't have any discussion about it it's just this this is a society the issue not a not specific to artistry dealing with a lot of you who don't know anything about the game are uneducated about the details and we're actually dealing with and have already made up their mind just looking for more statistics tobacco argument they've already made up their mind about how they feel about the sport and they have a lot of influence fluence that's a problem that is a problem I don't know I don't have a crystal ball I mean all we can do is keep trying for zero tolerance but it's it's nearly impossible of course and frankly if you look at the overall the statistics if you WANNA use statistics at or disgust them industry-wide it it continues to improve because there are things being addressed that have never been we've made more progress in in the last ten years and even in the last five years ears crops the widening demand and insistence on the croppies for for for any fatality so we can understand better I mean these these are all for for for for us as an industry to be to be a sailed and to have people say things without having any knowledge where things have been and where we are now is just unbelievably unfair because after every single high profile incident the industry has has tried to double down and do better and better and whether you want to talk Barbara and then the learning and so many other things that came out of that eight bells also I mean one thing after another after the two thousand twelve spate of injuries at Akwa Duct and the taskforce and all the things that that came came out of that every time there's been anything that we can learn from we have and we're better now for it and continue to get better and and yet no matter what you do if there's going to be out size pressure or outside microscopic examination you're never going to satisfy because there's going to be incidents period and and they're not going to accept that and I I to me you've gotta come right at them instead of trying to be defensive because until the entire world is eating plant based foods foods then I don't WanNa hear from anybody the only people I respected this are actual vegans and people who are who wear leather and I mean need okay you you I you know action being taken precaution you two years ago let it doesn't imperial hint get scratched last year well they did at the polly Freddie head Freddie head you think Freddie head is going to run a keep of course that is that is compromised Freddie head fleeting hard to know how about how about yesterday ah we get out of there at least five scratches I mean it's not like is brought over with a fine tooth Coleman again action being taken that perhaps we may not have seen prior and trying to take every precautionary steps can possibly be taken that these horses are looked like in the NFL right now we're in week nine week ten there is not one player out there one hundred percent healthy everybody's banged up in some capacity and for the race sources themselves they are athletes also and the precautionary stuff that's going on now and making sure that every horse that goes out there has been gone over especially for the competition and with a fine tooth comb in to make sure that they're at the vets feel that they are how much finer you can get because it has been good I mean had his issue here at the gap I mean they must've check check them out a half dozen times to make sure everything was good he never hit his head when he flipped yeah and that was fine with me and it's something was wrong and they scratched him gay so be it that's okay you know they did what they had to do and and it's unfortunate at that you know that one I'm sure this was one hundred percent going into it and you know fatigue is a big factor actor on any on any in any sport you know well you can dress this as well as anyone and we're gonNA talk to the rest of the week we'll talk to more horsemen there's a case to be made that having a track so deep and so- arduous is actually the on the flip aside they think oh well the slower safer that's not necessarily true and especially if there's a horse harboring fishers and and issues she was unforeseen making them labor tire over over attract too deep isn't doing anybody any favors I think everybody but he would agree with you there I mean I think we wanna tracked it's level where they land there everything is equal and they don't have any step in unequal and as a bit of a bounce to good life energy from not energy taken away from them exactly no I agree with you one hundred percent I think you won't get any argument from anybody about that I accept ah except that I you know that that I the one nine in the sprint I that that's the one horse like mentally really that's pretty remarkable I mean this is and this is a topic for you know for racetrack practitioners that maybe it would maybe we'll get maybe they could help but I think horsemen understand it the best I mean you you don't WanNa horse coming back I mean blowing coming after every Gallup I mean it it it I just I find this just find this so maddening sadness Peter I it seems to be ongoing or they tried to find the perfect race track and I don't know if there ever is perfect track how did you fare over the synthetics during the synthetic generation and and how welcome would we did well over the synthetic I don't know if that's if that's the answer or not we bought a lotta horses office synthetic and they transferred over here to be useful horses if that's what it takes to keep this this ball rolling then I'm whatever whatever it takes because I don't WanNa see anything happened here synthetics they had you know the cushion that they had it Hollywood was very close to dirt off that was hit felt that we had two courses for the most part of the back at some of those Breeders Cup results in horses that won races grass races winning you know main track Breeders Cup so hot here though the drainage issue you have the drainage Enj- problem it took a long time to find the right for it to work I remember they used to ball horse's feet here so we couldn't keep it out of there because it was the heat in the in the wax and just just wasn't conducive to Senate weather Michael Dickinson says he can take care of everything don't worry about Dickinson's Dickinson says don't worry we're GONNA tracked it's not GonNa Track forces though it's not gonNA attract a Lotta people to come here that's an issue I mean it changes all the dynamics of changes the stallion de issues and and there's just every every part of it I is we're going to run four five days a week I I can't see synthetic pullen people out of the East Coast to come here and the money thing the person or a big a big issue ater I appreciate the visit and couldn't be more delighted for for you thank you X. Line team and everybody involved storm the court the eighty seven and a good good foundation heading to the end of the year and into his three year old season continued success. Thank you pleasure always take another look at that low salaries congratulate Peggy Yeah I was Peter Martin Levin Kyw's with us let's take our last break of the morning we'll come right back and wrap up get some AH beats thoughts on the rest of the Cup action back after this to say it's Anita it's at the races with Steve on Sirius. 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PART 2: Dick Powell, Andy Serling

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PART 2: Dick Powell, Andy Serling

"Now with Steve Day on Sirius Xm the AW satellite a lot Sirius Satellite Radio series exam big when we first added this love worst serious before the before the Birch coach Dick Powell going to join us do some recap from last night the two year old steak at press kyle but of course now everybody was left after you know after we were going into the break everybody was waiting for Dick to join us to find out if Dick it has a middle name. Yes I do well. You didn't ask me what what is it. We're all excited. First of all are you were obviously Boorda Richard Right Richard Jenny Okay Richard James R J after my uncle job so yup but were you are as a kid now I would dickey my whole life you go all right yeah no AH y'all be people that call the Ritchie or the nuns or RJ RJ. That's a natural about the neighborhood. I grew up yeah. That's pretty good Catholic Catholic the Catholic Nuns Call Me Ritchie and school. There's nothing that can never Dick in school and you could always tell if someone knew me back in the day. 'cause it's always the Dicky and then other people but that might have been some schools richie but that's a long time ago but yeah James All right yeah well I I. I'm now may be hard pressed not to say archie. I I like like the what's unusual Richard James Powell found British and yet I'm Irish and my dad was my dad was adopted and so he was adopted after by someone named power. My mother's maiden name was enwright and her mother's maiden name with McMahon and you know we're we're hardcore interesting. This is talent. I love it. I very curious. It's my mother didn't tell us that my father was adopted. So I was thirty one years old. Wait you wait for me to grow up. That's crazy that that's a generation that kept everything in Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. He talked about a lot of things including that was no no big deal but that that's a fair point yeah you're right. You're right that that's one thing that's one thing that is has changed inched in our lifetime. You're right interesting. Well people know more about you than they did ten minutes ago. Oh that's always always good. I I'd like to know more about Lance stokes who sent out the that weed whacker last night to win the Mrs Paxson and there was that ownership I assume it was an ownership entry and we lost. We lost chilly sky. I I made the speculation last night. yesterday Alexander Levin good hat to be part of that triple threat stables that the only reason I could see either that those two were entry mates yeah and I I they had an interview after the race with Land Sun the owner and I I amidst the beginning of the end of the south they might have covered that but weed whacker just traveled then and would say she looks like a winner. Every step put away she was stalking and second was just racing easily. She'd come off of a five furlong debut win at odds-on so she three to one was a more generous price on and she just took over on a time and just drop to win as she pleased Stokes is twenty seven percent this year the writer Walter Allen Karp he has forty forty something wins now at press kyle to last night so he's running around twenty percent of press when you look at his stats twenty nine thousand nine hundred fifty two mounts and he still shows a healthy flatbed prophet so not only winning but he's winning with generous odds and as a nice combination couldn't get a you know an eight dollar horse across the one out a lot ethic aside. I didn't think she was ever in any of the way she who's cruising down the backstretch and the time she just looks super talk. She did breaks the Ralston sitting there listening to Grad I'm going through through the threats information at the end of every race with the Post divisions and everything else the rail jumps extremely well no matter what the distance Prescott Ascott perhaps more speed track than people realize they think synthetic is slow and tiring and pave his clothes and stuff and that's not the case in sprints especially but I've been in snap Romans where just doesn't have a big advantage the other races that certainly has a big advantage some actually actually get out especially from inside doesn't have to be the rebel one-two-three become very tough so we wacker when the Mrs Paxton Nice corruptly by Artie Schiller show we'll hear from Oregon before the Kevin meet the future and it was a it was a step up performance and what was interesting about this field. I went over this race at the end did the show yesterday and I asked the question about capital Q. Down Inside Robert Moscow coming in from Philadelphia and Eddie colletti coming in as well with Lula's road runner making the move from dirt over to the synthetic and they both ran okay Lulus who's roadrunner basically was chasing the whole way and was able to be well clear for third and that capital Q. Broke well and then then you got swamped ended up fourth in here and I I'm not so convinced that that she wants to much watch of this synthetic I mean sometimes you see them. You know when they when they back up like that they did go fast so you don't know but it it it's. It's one of those one of those things where you you're not so sure that you know the the the the footing was for her they break they break well and and you know they might tire just because the action is different takes a different kind of toll on them and then she might not have been good enough either so good rice and other than the other part of the entry scratching all eight ran all betting France so we had a nice Nice complement of horses that seem to be evenly matched until they spun the latch and we were sees the rates going into the Park Parnham. It's never looked back well. The the counterpart depart. The counterpart doesn't come up for a couple of weeks right for the Paxon the the Fitz Dixon yes that's usually closing we cannot believe but yet that's later later in the meat and you know pay. PA have had a ask terrific success and I'm sure that's silly were work away to the lengths and try open company somewhere along the line and that's very well well. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA actually it's funny you bring up to the side specifically to because Stu Kirshenbaum Tom who I've known the telephone and E-mail for for years I actually got to see and meat stew face the face he's on Saturday parks and he's going to visit. We're GONNA talk about it. Around the time to Moni of sale I want I wanted to come on because the Pennsylvania and we said this one the jockey club factbook came out and the report of Mares bred. Ah Pennsylvania is bucking industry trends and WE'RE GONNA talk about that with Stu who has been working with the Pennsylvania Breeders uh for several years and you know the parade of you hear the commercial with Brian San Fratello the parade of champions this 'cause you just you don't you don't immediately when you think of Non Kentucky Programs Obviously Florida first and then in New York and Pennsylvania. That's had this steady drumbeat of of top greatest steak winning horses the last the last four or five years yeah I I think I call I've sat what's due at the Whitney too. Few Nice came up with todd hot mustard who had sponsors my parents of the Pennsylvania Ata and I've known Stu I haven't seen him in twenty twenty five but but I remember way back when involved with Tom Merritt thoroughbred racing communications and stuff like that so he's ironically sat next to me we got catch up on a lot of things and he does terrific work with the video appetizing video yeah exactly exactly well and I want to mention to land stokes folks want to talk about regional phillies something we could bring up with with layouts he had years ago he had cover gal how that very good calibrate that one you know one graded stakes and one and competed at a high level I didn't have a didn't have the longest career but made a lot of money and was a was a serious source and that's that's the horse I associate with the with land stopes going back God. It's gotta be ten more than ten years probably yeah it was a good right. If I did watch all the parks races on Saturday and I enjoyed that I I thought King Jack WanNa wait and wait and four track and then the first the first two year old seven prolong one writes wanted twenty seven next one one twenty five and Shane so and visually just look like your typical talks track where folks okay fodder out. You are on a stretch the better chance you have a King Jacks of you always start and do that. The other sprint is goes to the Breeders Cup. The other sprint says he's GonNa fate of already shown what they can do and stole seems to have some upside on not not limited is not limited to sprint this. That's either I mean that's that's the most interesting thing about him. He ran well in shabbily behind him probably going to mile and yeah what did the other unfortunate incident interesting part of Cherry Holland off the train read US companies that Santa Anita that they encounter in the British Cup that will remain to be seen. I would imagine Jerry wasn't gonNA speculate on that right now but I would imagine Craig Fable and his presence has you know has a lot to bear on that front and whether whether the horse would have to run a Dan wards name and Etcetera Etcetera but you would you would like to believe coming out of that litigation at at Golden Gate where where the judge asked the parties to work things out themselves hopefully some of that is happening and we'll see we'll see what kind of update there might might be on that front as we get you know as we get into October and frankly as we get to to next week I from every indication. He's Jerry how prepared to you know to not compete there. If if that's what what is going to continue to be the the the situation so we'll say the funny thing king jacket he looks like a he has the big wide strip down face Jason. It looks like a highway you know the machine that puts the white line now when you know some somewhat different shapes and you know like a question mark like straight white right now no one's pretty cool and saying you know when they brought him back after right as a handful now that race early then take a lot out of Eight McGreevy Tom McGreevy who I talked to who afterward McGreevy pick them out of course for Michael Stinson and McGreevey really really thinks highly of him and did from word go and they're. They're very excited about what you know what is yet to come for King Jack Ax so you can understand after that performance you understood pretty clearly why they're there was interest for awhile of coming to the Allen Jerkins and the door for thought about coming to Saratoga with them when you when you saw that effort so and their long term goal actually is more than Malibu even than breeder come so that's that'd be that's what what their thought is but then again the the you have to deal with with the ridiculous circumstance involving the Strana Group A couple of thoughts about maybe maybe about this afternoon and the thing at the press well. What's what happens is the trainer the trainer races Jerry works all the wife? It's no problem that the jock rate suddenly been flipped in Pablo Morality clauses Thursday was one ahead of Guy Auto and then last night Morales has a four beggar the he's now five ahead a guy same thing as always one twenty six to One twenty-one Ninety four seconds to ninety four second seventy third the sixty nine hundred twenty seven percent free trial was made up quite a bit of ground and now it's taken the leaves against Guyana then huge drop off the third the third place right Scott speed of fifty one so two guys dominating. I'm listening tonight. We're going to try to get home a chalky pick three and rice number two and kick it off with number treat the to Nancy's from Tim Burton five claimer. She's taken all taken a real home to press kyle since coming here a win and a second timeout draws towards the inside which we like and Pablo Morales back picks up the mountain have running out on how to last time around Britain road to victory before that the we get morale is thirty five percent with Girton watch things I like about number three the to Nancy's second-leg will be rice for we're going to go with the five five Blyton of blitzed and I think it's blatant Horse Record when twelve times here eight year old still firing bullets has learned burn fifty four thousand dollars runs against twelve five this one's thirteen five just knowing him and he just keeps wanting so even though he's back on the short grass ask he was pretty dominant West last week from the inside and the aforementioned while by Alan Carr we'll be back so that's number five lighten in the second leg and then the third leg which is rice for this is this one is going to be a little bit tougher reg solid break from the inside hacked it in last time I'm a couple of weeks ago but does have terrifically speed. We're GONNA return. We get Guy Oughta back. Little drop in class not really much but I think this one is clearly the one to catch and with Guyana's ability to get out and then the lack of speed hopefully we can get on for the pick tree tonight might starting and race number two three five and one five one. I'd Probably Watch it up a few times next next next three days today tomorrow and Thursday some nice sequences particularly the second half of the cards. You've got looking looking ahead. You know things like like the you know the pick five Nice you know seven eight by or excuse me eighty seven nine by eight by twelve on Thursday looks like eight by seven by eight by nine by twelve I I had that conversation last week with Doug Salvator to DECA and it Doug said a lot of the same really really stressed a lot of the same things you have talked about which is just how consistent and and how playable this this I surface. Is it an old school way with with horses running on a regular basis very familiar and very distinct you know it's not it's not you know the when you think quality wise. I mean if you're somebody that that looks down your nose at at sixty two five live types. I Okay I guess but if you want horses that you know that are pretty consistent. Brad freed read years ago I expressed that you know sometimes I would be intimidated by you know the lower levels and Brad said don't be those our horses that a lot of times are are as four full as any division any area of of racing yeah and and like you said the great thing is that they come back on short out of you know the light and ran last week one last week back seven days later later you see that very frequently three four weeks of getting a layoff status usually the back to something. You got some names running back the surface that they're familiar with them. You know what's doesn't like surface. It's probably not gonNa be here but then you get these great horses for courses like the one on and tonight with twelve one. That's not that unusual. You see a lot of horses like that Yup. It's fun little nuances in the racing sausages with you know inside while on speed better than people think lots lots of the language by these are horses racing instead of training constantly between starts racing and we've talked about that surface how good it is for the horses. Let's look forward to Thursday deck and we'll talk Hong Con with you later in the week. I appreciate it okay. Well the Dick Powell everybody press kyle tonight. Five thirty five. We're going to take a break here. anti-smuggling standing by talk here the next little bit my engelhardt Duarte John White at the racists Siriusxm back after this apperances with Steve beanbag on Sirius. 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Why is accreditation important in after care the thoroughbred aftercare alliances standard of accreditation and GRANDPA's provide donors with confidence that their contributions are allocated allocated in the most effective manner? Da Accreditation is only awarded after a complete review of an organization after care cannot be an afterthought for the industry to learn more or support the mission visit Thurber aftercare dot org. Hey breaking down the the biggest stories in the world of horse racing. This is raises with on Sirius. XM radio he's like see then went back in the wake of the caller inherited. We are Goksel fouled. Does it's coming off of a nice weekend in New York it everywhere. We told you from our trip to Philadelphia. I think things are moderating for this week and starting to look forward to the Big Breeders Cup preps that start this weekend the Jockey Club Gold Cup with a serious group of five classic Types Anti Good Morning Anchor thinker six in the Gold Coast you about Yoshida Andrew who was on your Shida talked this morning and he wants to go bill. Well all right good point we can we could we could ask your sheet which would be that would that would frankly the five the five or terrific and if she is coming It's that much better okay. If you say so well come on. You can't do what what's wrong with that group but they're all they're all good. I'm knocking them. Fields aren't exactly compelling but okay. It's a good five. I'm not argue that well you get the three year olds this. This is always the most important part of this time of year. It's supposed to be is the three year old starting to face elders and so- code of honor and Tacitus his presence in here really adds to the injury. Yes for sure listen. I'm I'm old so I remember when three year olds for the Prius Cup came along and made it so so you're never faced olders the fall you know these run against all the time is to beat them. When dinosaurs and fast horses roam beer those old days so yeah I'm glad to see the attack us and code of honor running in this race supposed to meaningless races sort of well the one part the the mile and a quarter and running two mile and a quarter raises back the back as opposed to you know what what's offered in a race like that awesome again I'd California the mile actually three right? The traverse covers the jockey club. That's true that's true. That's true the point your point being i. I think that there's some I think there's some training mentality that prefers firs- yeah the mile in the eighth and and and then moving to the the mile and a quarter as as the well should regain Bill Motte that seems not conceive it is a big problem. I'm going to say it's probably okay. Those guys are pretty good right between the two of them so if they think it's fine I'm good with it. Well preservationists Tacitus Code of honor tenfold Vino Rosso and potentially Yoshida for the the Jockey Club Gold Cup on Saturday and we'll have pilgrim and the Belle dame we had a visit with Brad Cox. He's contributing in fact every all three trainers that are that are going to be on today have got horses lining up in that pilgrim. It looks like Jose Duarte Brad Cox and we'll talk to my Engelhardt after you Jeremiah who's playing a rating tug again don quiring minds WanNa know yeah. We'll we'll we'll get we'll get at that information from for my speaking a witch. Lets us before we talk about what lies ahead because it's going to be too terrific weeks. Uh lining up with with everything Breeders Cup preparation coming down the Saturday probably the following next weekend. Twenty dollars says you don't come okay. I think I'm gonNA come considering we. We've got two horses the pointing for that. I don't believe you'll be okay. I might be there tomorrow. Actually so yeah Mike Down Tomorrow. Team has got something that you don't okay very calm. Always say might come. You never come well. I live three and a half hours away and down park. That's like six hours away. You were were there. I was there forty eight. I was there for forty hours. You can talk in some is story to not even come to track yeah. I tell you what I they they they you should you should look what let's see. What I'm seeing through this I right now? It aren't you I better but this this gas bubble. They put this gas bubble inside and so now there's a whole new development. which is the thing his breaking up so now I through my I there's literally a kaleidoscope of like seven bubbles and when I turn my head I don't on? MSNBC then what it's ridiculous what this is this has been literally. I WanNa tell you like a kaleidoscope. If when I looked down in particular in the thing comes up it there's like six or seven different shapes that are that are at large in there. It's crazy speaking of my my engelhardt Englehart couple of thoughts because my had a really nice within the Kelso for Herald Learner and what a what a nice source his pat on the back has been great. You really ran. His type of your best rates ever was very good effort plan. I agree. I I do not like them. I'm I'm surprised to read really well there yeah. He's done very very well and a great job of them. What's he gonNA do with them? Is He. GonNa try go. The Breeders Cup limbs wants to stay in the New York red race. Get Out. No I'll find out what we'll we'll ask him to Kelso's visit Kelso when you're in the count for the mile. I don't think so no you would have no you would have seen the blanket and the hats and the whole purple army the now I don't hold up attention to see that to be honest with you. Well PAT on the back and Dila Davis together. No he ran well. Sorry I don't have any great words of wisdom on that one. You know what's interesting you. He's a millionaire he's by congrats. He's a horse. He is not a gelding and this is an important win for him. If vegan well Jaffe at one to be yes around when I mean I'm sure there are point towards automobiles. Question does have a race in between between again. They ran this last year ended up with a one or three by or two crew best. How could you ever again? He had he had not ninety nine had been thought you know well. I agree and AH I didn't realize this either until I just looked down. He's never been off the board at Belmont and the in eleven starts six three two in eleven starts very consistent worse yeah the I I find all that you know racetrack you know of course of course stuff to to be tiresome because I don't believe it means but it's probably a lot of racing right. He really has yeah eleven of twenty six starts. Yeah I mean it's his career record. He's probably an awful lot of things he started. His career wasn't as good so the timing. Let me start racing at Belmont when he started getting good right was this I want to raise finger lakes eighteen year old and I can't second of the sleepy hollow right that sounds right it does sound right and that's what mcpeek Adam mcpeek Adam and yeah. I think he upset somebody like ten to one or two small field at finger awakes steel dylan wrote them for from a peak in likes thirds. I'll look it up. I'll get up as you do that to a couple of other notes within this group and the race was was bet I like to read last well Managua he college. I mean just you saw him. Dropping on the inside he back did not I make a few of them. Listen we all do I don't care prints. Lucky got Pat like he does or what price the even money that was. He really not sure as ridiculous price my agree so way right sort of like that I'm right. I I remember that now he was five to one. I remember that Dan the aspirin will buy those five macho live and then he was second the bond bond guard and he wanted to sleepy hollow twenty two one there we go was second in the city was twenty two won that race short short kingman third these big price that day funding for this race favourite was Mr is to go over Cambridge only two eighty one MR author worth all anchor was in there what was in there I the price of their tell me gooky stories and the second thing came a long time ago. My brothers made Saratoga Right Michigan relates rates wins the Jackpot forgot that he went to fairgrounds getting ready for the Derby that worked out well third the Mike Lee and then one finger lakes we started consistently consistently get good wasn't until last year really really until last year the good lesson that actually really a lot of it coincide when when he switched to live they ran wellens last star take firm success yes but then once he got to Maya he started really consistently really big numbers to be fair. He ran the big numbers. I started a four year old for the navy. Just got better with age you look at that you look at that breeding you know by Congrats Adam an awesome again mayor and every right to start to get good at at four as a foam which you you know as he got closer to maturity both sources deal right very few horses peak to custody precocious I know I'll tell you I firmly believe virtually peaked at two auto annoy people but they don't mean it as going to be as a complement criticism songbird. I don't think she ever got perceptively better. I think she was amazing two year old and she was so good but she continued to be very good horse in not a particularly strong group but she was a two year old. He just towered over competition right. She's so good Steve. Vickers didn't really perceptively increase from two to four no no no I think she was such a good two year old and because the competition was so infuriated three year olds extended to dominate the don't think they'd be those you didn't approve that much improved to three surely would have been you know incredible. I don't think she did I mean think governed Breeders Cup was incredible race Chiro now the the ratio on she was remarkable. Fair half bridle path bridled never got better right even when much three year old she was at least in the spring in California yeah he had like post fourteen in the immediate down right she sure did she shared you. Did you got it absolutely right. Yes she was good. You know it wasn't happen sometimes but most IOS time again you know unfortunately we don't get to see somebody sources run so we think Omaha beach is really gonNA run. I don't know I really don't know what are they gonNA use it. I guess they're gonNA run them in the if they're really interim at six furlongs who believe that gets their point for the mile. You're not going from that. You're not going for the six furlongs. Perhaps the mile quarter they can't do that. I think I would think so cents for the Weird of course like adult right yeah maximum security now. I read somewhere that you you can't get them to the breeders copies thinking of the Clark shop before he runs again well you you gotta ease him back in. They're just buying. No no I of course now of course in the obviously had a serious incident but he is not exactly a horse. That's been reliable. Ebel is twenty race to begin with you know it's not you know his sort of careers. redact trajectory is not exactly been orthodox for better or worse. You know who's been reliable. WHO's been relying you Steve Your reliable fifty five and dot Matrix significant form? Let's get a couple of other recaps in here before we we'll talk about forms of funny worse because you know when I when I was looking at the unluckily gloat over being right about sixty five shots and that's not really what I'm trying to do here when I was first looking at that noble Dan's like that very confusing and the mortar looked at significant form. She's a funny horse because because the three year old don't have mile races three year old fillies now we moved away George Tool mild all this year which I think is a good start but what happened to her. You know she was such a two year old. She probably should have been second the Breeders Cup. She wasn't going to beat rushing Paul's accounting. That's really an embarrassment not be rushing all right so I think that they ran her in the right wrong races as a three year old. What are you supposed to do with the worse? It looks like a top three year old you get ready for the Belmont Oaks obviously before we have these series of three races and so he ran the wonder again and they ran her there but the truth is she's not a mock. She's not a night for a long ten horse and incredibly lots are very good at the time and then you know run terribly. She was fourth pushy could get the distance. She's really a buyer and there's just nowhere to really runner right and then she got a yielding turf for something Saratoga run well off the turf race so it's actually a three year old year was a complete waste but this year Iran or in the intercontinental and she very well that day and then I think they took a shot at five and a half because really weren't raises where it Saratoga Talk I guess he could appoint him for the dollar rose right but wouldn't America. She wasn't GonNa beat Kathy source anyway anyway but it's kind of once she started running into right racist she started showing what she can do and even if you got this great right when the boss Wash two-truck took mileage miles sixteenth doors and she's still one and she showed on Saturday that these mile races are what you want especially one turn vile but and she ran the best racers ever run game night I fire and this is where she belongs and if he's able to keep that forum you know Jag Brown's had very good success in the patriarchy he lost by a nose to Miss Temple city three years ago. He's one of the last two years with off limits Noble Damsel and Ernie who won the noble Damsel as well and significant four might be this year's course for him. You have to think of that race. We're rushing fall is racial as the Boston Allston SPA and I have no idea what he was doing. Finance arrays like the first lady England. I have absolutely no idea she's running. She's out. I'll you heard anything better know erase right. 'cause I kinda doubt it marks going to bring back. got stormy after three weeks from from Woodbine so I can recall in that group right also pretty good actually yeah yeah I well. He's got a I just had brad and he's got both he's got though recall at Julia Foxtrot in the first lady right but recalls good I guess in the absence of that storm being at an rushing Paul favor their guests not that familiar go if who Chad roundhouse for I can't imagine he's gone back at three weeks with uh with significant form so they could formerly improved a lot fifty five just think advisement as good this year though she well in the Boston spa aw and she was just lost those around especially with University Guy Gate and I'm not sure why dot Matrix tricks such a big price agreed. They didn't pick them pick last time he was better than what's his name than than offering plan because he got left last time no obviously you chief factor in gala gate that was very lucky stacked up at the wrong time and so we don't know what he would have done and he could have been close enough and and and and it was quite well finally which was nice to see but first time he's run a good race in a while that was yes because there was some concern wait a where he where he stood at about the uh the what's the steak on on price showcase day. I won't be there actually Ticonderoga for phillies right. I never actually got the you know what I got. The schedule is the race by the way I gotTA. I gotta ask You my head Leslie. Put Up. I'm not exactly sure why because I correct myself in the show and quoted her skin corrected me right after she says it's sure why she reiterated raided but anyway the breakfast on the native missed was the other boat up in Lake George and you know what's the word conflated one for the other. Okay Okay Okay Okay Yeah. I was like what the other one trip to Niagara Falls the dead there in nineteen eighty four were they play with both they played at the Convention Center at Okay Air like weird sort of airplane hangar. Yes actually they bad that actually also was there again in. I drove through it that summer because he drove up Toronto to see the data as well. They played at that Wonderland Amusement Park Downtown Toronto. Okay eighty four went to woodbine. The following day stayed with Sam Elliott on the way he was at that time how funny I'm not saying yeah whatever the island that show the draft where they played their That's a that's a swing turn on. I stopped Rochester not been deal. No no that's great. That's a heritage I remember we felt a beer sleepy in the road. You're the road goes from Binghamton all eighty yeah. There's never any traffic on the right sleeping. You great wrote you on the New York highway system at deer that don't have a good history. We didn't hit and kill that one. Could you let them run into your car. Suddenly you're like the deer slayer my dad energy or when I was a kid your daddy bowe driving the time shift to the front end of our station wagon. I've only hit one in all the Times I've lived in places where there's a hazard where you have yeah weird is the one that I hit was in early afternoon on the throughway and that's pretty unusual you know y- The back roads like where you live you'd think it would be it would be easier to hit the main on the dog. They're they're. They're Tina Tina's she. She's got a great great sense because she knows where the they always have that green wrench. You married you who has been on the wherever there's bodies of water. They're always crossing roads roads because their water where you would think around that drive from Sarah Schuylerville could be a little dangerous. They're all every every nook and cranny around out here is dangerous for the their. They are the most annoying awful things that they just. They're ridiculous. What I worked downtown? I work for for for somebody had he was. He's very you know he's very left. Wing environmentally conscious conscious at you know really really outspoken everything. This is years ago this. Is You know early nineties. I remember one of our brokers was hunter and he said to me I'm going hunting this. We want some venison you or your boss doesn't like what the Edison Edison and I said much asking yourself. Your fellow lecturer said I'd love something I said to him what you're like okay with killing Bambi. He's like the live infested. You're you're over money. I went okay. I just never yeah. I never got it right exactly right I have you have you over the years. Did you every drive through the the Saratoga battlefield of course my mom just went there my brother. My brother was visiting my mom. They just went but I've been there. I'm sure if view go there at dusk close the dusk they literally overrun the place because it's like they know that hunters can't go there so it's it's like it's like a congregation. They're feeling Saratoga before. I'm sure I've seen them on the one another well. We had that one that was that was that was a moose there was the moose that was looking for a season pass that year member last couple of summers ago the Moose at the else we come to this. It's the greatest chrome highly recommend list or somehow tied the way out nightclub years story really is it really is a great story anyway. yeah you could find moves around town Saratoga Toga. You'll see them randomly and strange sometimes we we had we had one here in green which Cambridge has had them the when they come for. You know they come for the season when they're when they're in heat and they you know they're they're humping. VW's I mean they're right. Well this conversation a quick. Who's your guest who's alive or follow this crap vile my angle heart but deer stories he's like he's like Jeremiah Johnson of the training commute pretty much? That's really true you know I I said. Did you a picture. He sent me which you will you will fall over because I made Yarmulke Yarmulke shot inside decide. Oh my God I send him. I mean he's got worse because of alcohol with with with Hebrew names that trainer ever right now he says Al Says Al converted turned him over the these he's heard the what what the quick thoughts about can tell you the Pennsylvania Derby. I thought that was a really good race. I thought Dorado in extremely well but street are really good horse. I and I'm not says beforehand so I so I can say after I said on twitter. I don't understand why I don't sleep. Band was the only worsen the race so I'm not surprised you want to think she's very trent very well. At Iowa my third with pickier in the Alabama they got picked executive as it turned out because you read the second best race probably anybody she's good and she got the right setup right above the horses could win. She was the only one that didn't need to be formerly placed and turned out being forwardly placed not a particularly good place to be because they were moving in that race by the garage extremely well and defeat think she lost a anything in defeat but good thought that was terrific race taught the Pennsylvania Derby was a very ugly race. I mean I think a lot of worship ran poorly in there and you know my general theme of it is and all the everybody ran well. is that this constantly constantly slow paces and strangling down speed horses is really to to their detriment and I I mean I was sent the race was completely change. The problem got left. I'm sure if I am sure in foul broken cleanly he would've won but he's the architect of his demise he started acting up before the thirty act up at the gate and spot. It's his fault and that was really his doing. I'm sure it was very frustrating connections and he should have won and he would have won but he didn't and it was his fault. You know he wasn't unlucky. He was badly behaved but having said that. Is You know strangling everybody down the lead. You Really GonNa tell me that the war of will have been opened up and gone forty eight to or something that wouldn't have been slightly different race. I I just don't think it's helping roses that are forward horses strangling the down. It was just an ugly race to watch the PACE ACE of Boll dynamic punching field turf racing dirt raising a very different and running dirt races like their turf races is docking to produce the same same sort of result not very very. I think you know if you watched the Chilean independent Derby. There's such African contrast right yeah. That's true at the same time when you think think about when you think about what's getting empress was doing knowing that you know if she wanted the lead from down there she could have had it just so they were moving though I mean in fairness and I understand I I'm sure Taboga being run and top would've had her goes fast as she could have been in front and I know he he wasn't happy you know with with the way things played out. I have a talking I heard from your shortly after race but I haven't had a chance to talk to them and listen Tom Cerebral Diane Tommy you know he he he he believes stepped on agrees with God does reach me Orces but I'd have to really look again. They were moving in that race. you know I'm obviously sorry for him that she didn't want better. I didn't really get her that race to be honest but VINAS already correctly or connections of smartly said they're cutting back. The beers billionaire sprints. Yes you know I have to imagine Tom consider that Breeders Cup. That's where she'll be. you know. I feel if garage were running again this year. That's where she should obviously. He's GonNa GonNa be giving people some thought but you don't you don't run and hide from one horse. Sh No with all due respect to come dancing. She's not running figures right. Now that are gonNA beat. Kaffee runs the race that she ran a churchill. I think the one concern I have is my horse the draw I don't know Brad had thought about this at all but you know the one race right. She lost a Churchill was when she was a hundred right. When what's me mischief was hunting her? She's been very very effective when she's got these outside draws which able to control the right point rates not dissimilar tollways one loss and obviously plays such derail rail would not be good but also not Stanley was saying Taiwan. Maybe quits that he was down side and getting forced and you know I love the totally not knocking but he not too has been able to control the narrative for the outside in the races. He's been successful right so you know I think the draw becomes important for the faculty where she draws it at site post and she's going to get forced to play the game of others that are faster league that could be doing because she's not when the Breeders Cup she she runs that ratio ran against she's probably winning if she wants the races that Charan certainly of the miss preakness in raise the Dogwood and I'm not sure if she Wednesday she wants the tasks but she did well that I brought that up with Brad that that she's been very very she's had two races where she she absolutely gutted it out and toe to toe but then she's had the three blowouts and eight nine lengths so it there's obviously circumstances that as you're citing the play into her some of her outcomes and I think it's true. I'M NOT GONNA be critical article. She's obviously a significant talent. I'm just saying that you know with any time if you have a horse and you know if you own a horse you train a worse you you want that horse to you know being the situation of least resistance right have closer you WANNA fast paced. You have been whereas you want speed. You have a speed horse. You WanNa draw outside of other speeds so you can you know you can at least serve as a situation you can't control in one thing you can't control is post position and I think that those are Matola and Kefir potentially to horses that could draw to their detriment that trump eventually. I also think there to better in the country but you have to at some point prove but you can do it under someone adverse circumstances right well. There's also this crazy equation that no three year old no three zero affiliate won that race despite well including one which raise the Philly Amir sprint really yeah really thought that when through wh WH- who want it last year who did win last year the three year old filly so I think she's a three year old right. Maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong and she was four year old but I think that our source to one last year was she has old. NOPE phillies run a good one a good run. Maybe no three year olds WanNa August ever confused last years running with a good running now. You Got Bob eat now. You've got a three year old sheriff shower throws right. We're talking about yeah well because because because going unique I thought she was in three or she a four year old. I don't use a four year old this year I could we'll be wrong. Where where does she bid by the way we'll she ran slowly number? She ended about his slowly. She ran for your Scott. Unfortunately she ran races where you had to run fast will probably my once Bob Maverick run Marlene Marlene freedoms. She you know his show up. That day is terrible race. Sorry I'm not trying to she. She absolutely was a three that she was the first three year old to win it after curb guy might work done here you you've you've achieved and this year. She's over three the hurricane area in the Madison Good Horse. I'm sorry she's a good horse. I don't want to pay. I have a tendency to be. She's a good horse. She's not you know. She became the first one after we discussed this this after ten running yeah the three year old who were the three are also lost that racist short prices boy unique Bella yeah well. She was most over bad horse degrees history right unique Bella there was the the year that that was the year that that Kimmel one right with that day that was a third place well the runaround brand good race she did the senator went down the thought was that Chad the Lorcy Dorsey disagree with me but he didn't he thought I was crazy hours and then when nominee you'd win. He just thought it was. I liked Warren. I said I I think he was a good too. Oh yeah yeah she was a good three year old and she didn't have a great all year. She had some excuses surrendered. I forgot her name and who else recent in recent vintage that went into this race I'm just looking here got okay. Here's some winters bar of gold find a city Wavell Avenue Judy. The beauty groupie doll twice musical is not a three year old she right now she was older. She was older that was not betty over. She lost the virus virus as chief last grade one. It's almost eleven. I know you're not getting paid overtime here. Can I go and I could. He paid it all. Let me see stone. TASTIC was three to one in that race. They don't have to stow test. Oh she's the Philly that one of the priorities too fast yeah and then she lost no she lost the progress. She didn't lose the prior to that. How many years goes at three years ago? That's that's 2014 at Santa won the virus Nick Lighter Tammaro price that was something that was a strange group Judy the beauty better lucky thank you mary. Lou Style tastic Lee court southern honey artem Tara sweet reason hers Maga- Tara was a good good horror. She was probably a three year old four year olds. I think she wants what grade once is a two year old four year old right. I think that's correct one. The first I think she wanted for that that and then she wants something and she wanted the bowery. I WanNa say maybe you may have wanted. Ray wanted to three or four. She won a bunch as that she was terrific. She had her first of all sold at at I believe is our first of all the poll that Peter Grandfather did start on the crap million. You're just you're. You're like a fan today. I was slow out of the gate but I just finished just reading a book. When you call toxicology I liked it? What's next on the other reading agenda United go stack ends year Kevin Berry speaking of way? We're good oh I was thinking waiting for Goodell. GotTa waiting for Goodell to kind of just came enriches. I've got pleased. I've got a stack here that read stuff. You should read. I I know I it's it's impossible to get back to the big doings the U._N. I don't have any more time and he's only everybody with

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"North American folk-rock continues to climb but not here in Pennsylvania in two thousand nineteen of mayors braid increased for the third year in a row. This this time. By twelve and a half percent why are stallion roster continues to grow. We have the best incentives and bonuses. Plus there's the stability of our Racehorse Development and fun. Why breed anywhere else? This is. Brian San Fratello go to PA.. BREAD DOT COM and see why Pennsylvania is the premier place to breed in race breaking down the biggest stories in the world of horse racing. This is at the race. As with Steve BIC on phileas. XM radio it out to do And the anywhere coach Don. We're back in the racist Libertine joining us and Jeremy Michael Join us in just a minute or two. I think Casey trying to raise him He well he might be on the Cell K.. That's a possibility for trying the house. Right tell me all right I can see the case is GonNa answer me. Oh and he did. He's got Jeremy and I was going to mention about tomorrow there a couple of races. I want to try to get out ahead. What's we hit mid week? Pick out some spots and tomorrow at Sam Houston there's a first level allowance of they start their second week. Personal allowance go to mile and a sixteenth on the grass Horsfield. It looks like looks like I guess asked sin asked me. It'll be favored here Certainly Money Trend The horse that he owns that he took from maker and Kendall Hansen. And it's just one fifteen claimer now. He's going to try to clear his allowance conditions a five year old distorted humor. He's the worst I to be no doubt but you know it is turf it is a turf race so take a look. Take a look at this spot nice nice bulky field and Gulfstream. There's a three-year-old allowance. And maybe I'm sure Jeremy is going to keep an eye on this at seven furlongs you've got a first out winner for Navarro by the name of Premier Star Attack Pitcher Colt One in December going seven furlongs and happened to have beaten Kara Cairo who came back and and one well Delgado that came up earlier this morning with Andy so premier star the one to watch out of a hold that Tiger Mare and there's also a couple of interesting worse as Marquess got a don atom a warfront cult that Congress who won at first asking and then ran into independence hall in the Nashua and got distanced. But I think you can draw a line through that Trying to regroup He's four to one second can make a third choice so a couple of spots to look toward tomorrow and we look forward to talking now with Jeremy plonk countdown countdown to the crown. Second full week in the books the Lecomte on Saturday. We'll look forward to that preview. Jeremy Good Morning. Good Morning I had to go to the dentist. So so I would have a face for radio and I've upgraded to where I'm at least a radio presenter book. Well you don't you don't sound like you still have any cotton in the in the mouth or the any of that any that swollen or or Novacaine Novacaine side effect you sound. You sound clear clear on on the radio you know God what a performance by Lsu Nice you know what I gotta drop. This did real. Oh quick. I'm channel flipping because that's just the way I am. I can't stay commercials and things like that so during the championship game. Last I looked over to TV g because sometimes they have those classic classic shows on on Monday or Tuesday and the Twenty Sixteen Pacific classic was on and I watched the replay of California Gornja chrome and beholder. IMPOR- you forget. Sometimes how great of racist we have seen in recent years. You know we've bemoaned the horses that leave you too soon and and how we never get anything matchups but What a performance? And if you haven't watched that race in a while and honestly I forgot about it Because so much happens happens in three years but that race California chrome ran that day with a nominal 'cause behold there was a good four. She was all out in seconds route and he just cantered at home. What a what? A great performance go back and check that replay out if you haven't been a while and It'll make you feel good about some of the stuff you see on the track and And give you a boost you know. There's if there's one thing about racing it will do a rejuvenate you sometimes and you know I remember back in twenty thirteen feet near Derby Week and I don't know if I'd pneumonia or the worst flu of ever had in my life But spent the whole week it just absolutely sick and then that that sprint race on Derby Day between Amazon and Shackelford Churchill Down Handicapped with a throw down that it was just like lifted me and got me through the rest of the day the weekend and the drive home. You know. There's just something about a great race that it's hard to mimic and even while watching a championship game last night. The thing I saw on. TV California chrome rights and in fact that race. You know there. There's a few. There's a few funny names that you know that make you smile. This would have been in two thousand sixteen Wore story was was seventh and here. He is areas preparing for what his his fourth forth. The Pegasus try or third. At least and I I think Simon was a sign on the track. Walking next to the Horse Vitamin might have been him or would at the table said something like he's ninety nine to one but don't tell us nine here. I I like that and he ended up going one hundred thirty seven to one but he he did He did there were horses behind him including a pretty good good one in hard aces and also win the space but Yeah California chrome by five over. Boulder Dortmund was third hopper invented all the way around the track all rancher race that day opportunity to just so good that say not just that he that that was when he was in a just a you know he was still in a in a very nice routine that I forget where I was when I watched when we watched the the Dubai the race in Dubai but the World Cup win but he he he just was so impressive that day and and then he came home. One the San Diego one pack classic Won The awesome again. And then you know then it it ran into you know the buzzsaw in Harrogate but that was that was still a you. Know a terrific terrific performance and equality effort and in fact. I was just talking about that was talking about that the last night in fact with Andy and and I were talking in that race. Came up for the arrogate California chrome a classic like this year with countdown to the crown. You know fifteen season it one of the sections of the Friday report that that I'm putting out the fifteen best three year old that scattered and it started looking at rocky at fifteen orbit. Fourteen last weekend we can and this week will reveal number thirteen in the In the Friday report. But you know after seeing that race I mean I'm I'm looking just three year old seasons but it just reminds you a really really have good California chrome was and you know how close he was to become a triple crown winner. Ready he He would beat American feral to the punch by two years. You know had Delivered there in the Belmont and he had very few misfires in career. You know the race park didn't run a good one. And and of course the Belmont stakes was worn down but What a phenomenal career? The great race where she was. And you know he's got a lot of fans online in the twitter writes in the cronies and things like that that you know. Sometimes you think reputation and everybody kind and has you know fan boy fan girl Kinda in them and you think they might overinflate mortars but that's the case where you had a horse who was legitimately really really A super good and had the fan base follow. So that's you know that's a pretty strong combination. That wasn't a phony fandom. There that was that was a great racial. Well Day the add to it to enhance it. You also had the just the incredibly warm story involving the Sherman's and and You know an art and Sherm me and you know there was just so much to like about it that right. I mean that kind of made to you know I mean that makes for you know that makes for a storyline and it's funny because right now and I were texting before The the National Championship game last night. And we're talking about something and I said There's no storylines are you know. There's there's storylines anymore it's just narratives. You know everybody kind of wants in the media. Everybody wants a narrative and whether Kinda Kinda plays out that way or not they tell the story based on the narrative they wanna tell and you know it was actually about cleanse defensive coordinator Brenton Vegetables. Because he's like you know it's funny see that nobody mentions that he was run out Oklahoma. 'cause he couldn't stop it spread defense. You're spread off in you know. And then he gets the Clemson last night and you know they ran out of the gym with Lsu the spread offense last last night. You know. So I you know but the narrative is the greatest defensive-minded college football these days. And and so you know I. It's a narrative gets built in there and and the media goes with it and we were part of that with the NBC broadcast and stuff that we played the owner thing up and of course would happen with ten Iraqis live interview with the Belmont. Then that became more national story. Then you know the way it went Because that was kind of that was real raw human emotion and a couple of purpose. It's mixed in with it and made for great television and and and you know people talk more about it but I think you need all those elements so great story too so California mccomb had a mall and most of all he had a lot of talent. You know and that's why we're talking about him. And that's why that rate three years later just stumbling into it last night channel flipping GET IT RE sparked my interest in again and it just goes to show how good he pretty funny love it. Well the having just it's been in Cincinnati Overnight on Saturday and one thing I caught in advance of the game was the focus on on Joe Borough and on southeastern Ohio. You know which is which is a depressed area and I can tell you that from years ago when I worked for when I I worked for Cannon Mills based in Cincinnati and I would I would travel you know literally down that whole that whole corner corner toward Athens and Rio Grande Ohio. Where the home of Bob Evans? The actual Bob Evans farm and would go into West Virginia and Charleston and make sales calls and On on on coal companies and things. And I and I happen to know that area a little Abed and and the pride and the joy associated with with Joe Burrow Down Bengals number-one. Pick what you don't like me 'cause he should be That'd be great I mean that's that's hometowns. The way you know was you know certainly from the region That that all that don't make too much sense you know and Angles will find a way to bungle. Let's stop upto four bundles Kenny Anderson they've been a little dry. Well you think about that that that super bowl against the niners that they could have won. I mean it was assume that was that was the you know it's funny. The there there had been that extended era when the Super Bowl every year stunk and that was the first super bowl all that was really an engaging game and then since then it's generally there's been generally good games more often than bad games ever ever since then but that's always the one was twenty six twenty one I think in that range and boy who knows how the bengals fortunes would have change the if they had won that game and I lived in Cincinnati and still love it. Take the love going there. Let's get a couple of things we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA run ourselves. You're you're gonNA pull a Johnny de with me and we're GONNA we're gonNA or Johnny Johnny you know that's for sure that's true we we can absolutely really very true some thoughts. We want to get a Lecomte preview from Before we before we adjourn but give us the obvious you know take on all those maidens and we had the two mile races at at Gulfstream and the two six furlong races plus the allow. What's and it's funny? The allowance win ends up. Being you know probably probably anticlimactic to some degree from figure standpoint. Anyway we'll see we'll see where New York traffic goes from here but about Between Carrico and violent city Those appear to be the two that really stood out and and You know that this jockey win by the Saffy Joseph Sechin race winner that that kind of right. That's snuck under the radar. Dr Little Bit discharge kind of some your nose at those two races. You know this time of the year but when you look at You know where maximum security came from last year Jordan and what's going on with these locals and the you know these Gulfstream year round fight. She Gustavo the Gado and and sappy Joseph what they're doing is you don't work her. I won't say we're used to seeing this and like January February Golf Street but in a way you know you go back to the truck and rocks and horses like that. The booklets you're Kinda like Florida bred Florida locals who do well early in the campaign but by the time report a Dir becomes around where usually seeing you know more the blue bloods kind of those horses in terms of the Derby prospects. So we don't want to like go crazy and say well. This is the year of the local. You know at Gulfstream. Because we've seen this before and that's one of the beauties of experience that there's no substitute for most of these trails things that we see aren't new. You know the one thing that is new courses are winning later later in the campaign and getting later starts with three straight. Derby winners being maidens coming into their three-year-old year we hadn't seen that since monarchos in two thousand one until it's happened the last three years so You know some of this. We've seen before with some good early season performances by locally based sources. I thought it cost him the horse. Who won the day was of course I thought that was the best performance? I graduated a B plus Mike scale I'm going April through in my grade That was the best highest grade rape. I had this weekend at Gulfstream. And you know you look at the source and you say well that might be a local. You Know Delgada we call him a couple of years ago. It was a horse. You've got a pretty far bigger in second back in Florida servie with the maiden You know so he can get a horse down this path. There's some decent pedigree core though and that's the thing is You know he's he's not giving up a lot in terms of being a blue blood you know. His second dam was Santa Catarina second the Kentucky Oaks third the Breeders Cup Juvenile. Filly he That's his first generation. You're talking about what an impeccably brand Horsey is you know so tech dam was a really really good three-year-old Filly second in the Kentucky. Oh He's got the pedigree about him And that was a good win so I think he sold the day. In terms of the best performance there was some good performances. couple off Broadway performances. If you will. I like to talk about but at Gulfstream on Saturday I thought Sarah Cora was starting today. Well we'll see how quickly a Horses like violent city get stretched out and You know King Meister. Certainly Hannibal will go forward. It'll be he. It'll be difficult to even even with a seventy four buyer coming out of this show. He's closely related to strike power. Who He looks? It's a lot of the benefit of experience series. Kind of seen. Some of these plays before right. They're just different acts with the different year next to them in the playbill. And so you strike power was really good and then hit his distance limit and I think with King Meister. They didn't come on that fact in the race. The overall number is you sited what was in seventy You know so if you're a subscriber to that gail you're probably not gonNA look at King Bicester and say. Oh Yeah. This is a mile underneath mile and a quarter horse. You know he's he's probably GONNA end up somewhere like strike power And be pretty decent A Nice state sorts for sure Put Up to maybe like a mile and distance and and really sprinters winners. Were the the the rule of the week you know no parole down at fairgrounds just phenomenal For the second straight race you know he wants to buy twenty seven unclogged No parole looks like the deal to me in the sprint ranks. He reminds me a lot of lost in the fog. Remember lost in the fog won his first two races. One up in northern in California then went down to Arizona and WANNA little stakes race at turf paradise that regional just so but how good is he. I think no parole. There's not there's not a huge distance credit agree there but just an absolute star and I thought Wesley Ward uncorked a really promising three-year-old sprinter. They merchants of cool Kaelin during the spring. Need is a two year old and lick. Usually those kinds of horses aren't much but he brought merchants a cool back last week at Turf Web Levers Friday night and that was whistled and looked really good at doing so Going six and a half. I don't think he's GonNa go very far but I think that's a real three-year-old sprinter to watch named merchants of cool so I thought the sprint ranks really did well for themselves last week and I don't know how many classic type forces we got but I know that no parole is looking like like a really good sprinter virtual coup looks like a really promising sprinter and I think like you said Mark Source King Meister. I think it'd be a really nice sprints or so Future looks bright for that division. And he you know anything else that caught your eye that People are going to read about. I think palm springs runner. Europe finished was interesting in that race. when he ran second violent city by let's say probably wasn't expected to run that well first time we had a great data. A few if you and your express that account on Friday and Saturday when you log in I do the stats and trends in their four t racist throughout the the cards on the strong five on Friday and on Saturday and the CIDER violence first-time starters Gulfstream on the third really had a strong record and that was one of the staff decided to keep an eye on going into that race. Violent city ran the pedigree and against the trader staff right. I mean you had something kind of conflicting there. 'cause don't expect Ian Wilkes have six furlong sprinters right out of the block being brilliant and asked to be brilliant right off. The Bat. That survivor city ran well despite trainer intent really and that's usually a sign of a pretty good horse but I thought you know the runner up in there. I think is going to get a lot of attention because palm springs was a million dollar. Pletcher bread to go longer. There's a lot of distance in the pedigree there and he looks dead in the water like the Jock was in the bicycle. Ah Quarter Pole wasn't going anywhere going to be a distant fourth at best and then came back on for second and galloped out pretty well so I think palm springs is one of those horses GonNa make a big leap forward in the second start and we'll get a little bit more ground. Probably one turn mile next and you'll be you know he's three to five in this race. He'll be free to five or less on a one third mile L.. Next time and he could have a breakout race. Palm Springs was one of those horses who didn't win last weekend but it might be the next time really springs him forward nice and I suppose since I brought it up as you were good joining us. And given how well you liked the performance of Carrick Herro Wpro Premier Star tomorrow at Gulfstream in that seventh race going seven and again. I don't know how far this one wants to go but TAP pitcher out of a hold that tiger mayor but Clearly with care and militarist you know who disappointed a little bit for Karlovac Orissa In that spot but Premier Star tomorrow off the Win and and the buyer and I can tell for those that are those that are figure conscious six and three quarter debut on third graph for Premier Star as. Well I mean that's a good sorry. That's what you want to see. You WanNA seahorses coming out of races where there other positive performances and winter's coming out of them and as good as Cara and really was second bath after after setting the pace in his premier star who the first over trip that day and carried out and and still went on You know we'll see. Was it with the distance. You know how much farther premier premier started with one of his career. He got out a little bit in the lane. And that I start coming back seven in Tomorrow so that shouldn't be any issue at all. But that's what you WANNA see. And that's why y you know I've always kept these lists in and you can go back and look at the archives. You can't down to the ground but this year for the first time a countdown to the crown dot com. We've got a searchable database in. They're all the maiden allowance races with all my comments my grade for each race. So when Premier Star is running back you can go back. Check his last. His name appears anywhere else. You'll see comment in the core of a recap from this weekend. Says this race flatters Premier Star along those lines with the Nice win around Over the weekend that way you know playing on the Using the database To come up with the winner of I believe it was at fairgrounds. WHO's coming out of another key rate so that those Kinda Hannie cabinets can help us when we look at these strenghten schedule type of discussions here in January February? And that's all free you can just go and and sort through the database yourself. Everything's updated through this past weekend. Well we'll be looking forward to the written version but in the meantime what your early read Here to close out the conversation. Jeremy Let's talk about the Lecomte on Saturday which drew a very interesting group of fourteen. Yeah Yeah I mean you've got that triple rematch fairgrounds. On December twenty first right spent allowance race. Everybody wanted to see Mr Bonomo map Accessible people are accession They're all back you know so you got the three way rematch some post draws you know I mean the. The pill wasn't favorable to win math short out in the fourteen gene. Hold Mr Monoploy. Got The best of that. Probably in the two paths and there's no speed to his inside so Karachi Ruben. Kind of do what he wants. I think early in the race he can take field out a little bit into the first turn. He's got perfect. Started was outside and some others with some speed. But you know when you've got like no speed on the rail inside of you you're in the to pass. You can kind of breakthrough out of pather to drift everybody a little bit wider. You Know Lynn's maps probably the WHO she got it. BEAT IF YOU'RE MR monoploy because that's the one who beat you by head. Last time that was in fourteen whole you can kind of control how wide they go so the power You know the the Power Sword is definitely the hand of Jerusalem this race. You know based on the Post. Oh strong scabbard on the comeback will get this team. You know some semblance of what we can make out of the Breeder's cup juvenile you know Annadurai and pretty well in the Racist Los Allen the charity Wrecking crew's been here since you know So you know. The quality of the juvenile will get a little bit of a push. We'll see how scabbard performs in there. I haven't handicap the race all the way through but I do have a little bit of interested in long shot and I know this is probably going to be twenty to one or more Shasha shaped me up for. Keep the storm both just even when we do our podcast on Thursdays the express that I call podcasts and I know going into the sugarbowl he and I both really taught that the debut win for Shasha shaped me up. One of those restricted sales made the specials at Churchill was really impressive and we both thought he'd run a lot better in the sugar agreable when he was just kind of even Steven didn't do much. It was a sloppy track that day. They're coming back in about five weeks including travel. In between now this has been settled settled in it fairgrounds for a couple of months I think shocked me. Up has some talent by Shackelford out of pulpits mayor. So there's no reason why couldn't get a mile and a sixteenth not a great post in the twelve hole but Jimmy grams of jockeys. WHO's rock solid at fairgrounds doesn't get that heart though James Grams not the kind of job? He's gotTa take money so I think you're we're going to get a price on Shasha. Shake me up. I haven't handicapped this race all the way through. You know and won't say that that's going to be my top pick in the rate but it very well could be an. It'll be a nice price. The thing I brought up yesterday with John White and we we kind of went through this field and gave everybody in early in her introduction. I find it remarkable. You look at a group. Fourteen horses and ten of them are coming off of wet track performances. And so whether it's the last out winners like Sycamore. Run or Lindsey map or horses that ran well in defeat like Finnick. The fierce I who at eight hundred eight to one got beat you know length less than a length diminishing length silver prospector. You've got to make a determination Shen over who may have benefited from the wet track for whatever reason race flow or predilection. And then you've got to figure figure out what it means in this spot and have not checked the advance forecast jet You know this time of year you get plenty of wet weather In nola but that's a big part of this equation and then you've also got a horse like perfect star For Scott Goellner coming offer an allowance win on the turf and he's going to go back to the dirt and I don't think he necessarily you know is a guarantee he'd that You know he can't negotiate the main track so you got some. You've got some tricky calls here. You also have got to deal with the the coronation winner right. You've got the attic mover there. Yeah coming off for asthma seller Churchill during the fall. Yeah not like the question was probably going to the synthetic not necessarily come back and deal with the coordination for charities. You take a mile and an eighth back early in the year and those races usually being carousel so for a horse to sit a little off the pace in past two three four runners like halo again did in that race is the exception. Not The rule if you look at the rents and over the years because that's really the the race in America that we think about the demise as late in the year for the two year olds who races almost always one by a horse. You know first or second early on in the race they just none of the two year olds really WANNA go nine. furlongs is the moral of the story and and whoever makes the pace and it's the best course just generally wins those kinds of reasons but Halo again. That's the feather in his cap. It'd be able to sit and finish in a race like that Synthetic or dirt. Either way you look at it so He's got to turn experience. Some of these will be trying. You know like the shot fake Manhattan gone to turn jets Bango hasn't gone through turns. Yet there's a couple in here. Your silver slave or at least tries turns for the first time after a one hundred mile. So there's there's a lot of questions in this race and there's not a crop right. I mean I think this is the race like we see in the Lecomte. Steve is a precursor to what we're GONNA see for the next two months. You know there is not a stand stand out in this crop. There's not a horse is three to five by his name in the program as soon as he shows up stakes. Ry there's just not there's just not those kinda horses Right now some that you know you. Maybe when Dennis moment comes back and and we'll see there But you know these races are GonNa be proving grounds early in the season. We're going to basically be formulating kind of a January one on opinion this crop this year more so than some of the others. I will say this so good name from last year's crop that you have to go to XP TV DOT COM and check out the workout. Is the law workout this past weekend. work with Work Work Barclays. Good half million dollars or tailed silent and maybe the district and just a phenomenal team work from the law if you had any doubt about his just wall after the Kentucky Jockey Club would you know. Did he just kind of peak early and is he not gonNA develop moved into a three year old year that lasts workout if you go to actually dot com and search sports is the law that's going to alleviate a lot of concerns you have about that horse. I turned about him. I moved down to like number nine and my preseason poll because I wasn't sure that Churchill Israel returned the off but maybe it was just the trip but I will in this money outside of Palestine. LOSE THE NETWORK OUT PROBLEM with down inside and he didn't WanNa go you know in traffic and things like that at Churchill down inside so maybe he just needs to be on the outside but that was a phenomenal workout. Really well you you want to see a workout. That might that might disconcert. I don't know if you saw my tweet last night. THEY XP TV put up a thousand words against paint me. Lucky who's WHO's a four year old maiden right paint me lucky handed him his head and I mean ah feed him like a rental car I it. I was like stunned watching it. How Good Oh you rolling out about mis read two or three vapid workout coming into rate recently with his teamwork? The horse look good as the other is the one who ends of winning on in the afternoon. Well I'm having a hard time reading baffert work right now. Maybe there's something do it. Well thousand words. It looked plus. He pulled up past the wire like Like he was out of breath chasing me. Lucky I I don't know if that means paint me. Lucky breaks his maiden next time or not but keep an eye out jeremy thanks so much watch countdown to the crown and the weekend preview is coming from both Jeff Siegel will join us on Friday and Jeremy and Horse I player now dot com countdown to the crown. I WanNa thank Jerry Rob and Brian. Michael gave us a really fun. forty-five minutes or more this morning talking about the two nine win runners from last year. Really Fun and is banded and Picacho Andy Stirling Victoria Keith. And and J P just now Good luck you're playing this afternoon. Everybody I'm back to another -nother eye-surgeon GonNa go see what the thinks that his cataract. I'll talk to you tomorrow. The dog killer with Steve on Sirius. XM Radio Home at the tracker on the go express bed is your way to play. The races express bet provides legal insecure online and goble betting on more than three hundred of the world's top tracks and all the big events and when you sino-foreign express bet account today with Promo Code Vic that's B. Y. k. a you'll receive a one hundred twenty five dollars bonus. Once you've signed up you can take your wagering experience to the next level with XP Rewards Express Bets industry-leading Loyalty program earn points for every bet. 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Part 3: Brian Sanfratello, Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, Rick Hammerle

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59:46 min | 1 year ago

Part 3: Brian Sanfratello, Jeff Siegel, Ed DeRosa, Rick Hammerle

"Brian Good Morning Komo how you doing excellent and you know the we talk a lot we talk a lot about the regional programs and Maryland millions last week and they got the Ohio people this week and you know go back to the end of the Press Kyle season we had the two year old Peter's put it in a trust and so people are now confident that that money is going to be the stands Harrisburg understands the benefits of supporting the program given what it does for the farm community and all the trickle down economies breeding to race or breeding commercially. They're going to go where they can plan ahead and nobody wants uncertainty and and Pennsylvania obviously people are taking advantage of the opportunity to to race in Pennsylvania and drop their foles running in you know you're seeing that with the with the new standards that are coming into Pennsylvania I mean with the opportunity the breeding and racing in Pennsylvania that bloomer those those fears were allayed though and and you know the state the Warriors Reward Uptown Charlie Brown's doing Doing fantastic uncle Lino peace and just absolutely and as you know the great news it came out this week is that Pennsylvania's up twelve point five percent in mayors ah that that really has been the continuity and there were some there were some concerns about the the money that that comes toward the a that have had trouble all you have to do is look at New Jersey and whenever there's uncertainty mayor owners breeders whether they're you know they they're very good about helping Pennsylvania program and You know we paid out over thirty million dollars eight years in a row the things is the collaboration we have with the horsemen groups at at the retraction Pennsylvania for those that you know the track this kind of information and it's ebbs and flows I mean there's there's programs that becoming in another tap it so you know things when when people are confident that you know programs elitist mix up the jockey club so that was straightened out yesterday so be add his seventy two on there we're actually twenty four percent over correct we three years ago we put the Racehorse Development on in a trust Why don't sweat say we legislate air because you know like you said you know commitment is in for a year your commitment coming in it's probably five or six years and the getting some you know some more looks like we're going to be had that number again this year so a lot of good things happening NPA the advantage over last year and actually I think we're we're probably going to be up a little bit more net whenever he says everything said and done but you're right I mean red when I look at the number because I did a a you know report myself of say how come we're only twelve point five percent well there was a this we just Dr Solomon at Pin Oak Lane form Just ince contract for Normandy in Beijing Optical are are are GonNa go where the program is the is is the best and I think one of the most important is a mix up with the uptown Charlie Brown I looked at him he had one mayor Brady actually had seventy three Mares Brit and they straightened that out there apparent on the right track you know you'll see you'll see that by you know the uptick in the Palm Mares bread and and home owners coming in the mid Atlantic we talk we talk on a regular basis this summer and into the early fall with with Alan Norman and the match series and we had a Lotta conversations about Virginia and the the reboot of of racing there and there's you know there's really kind of an inter- intertwined network really for for people that that race in the mid Atlantic I mean with all the the various program awards that breeders and again whether you breathe a racer or you breathe to sell it oh you I've I've said this a few times can you can literally win a purse and all the awards could be seventy five percent over and above it folded in Delaware certification and Virginia certification and then if you dropped your foal in Pennsylvania Oh my God what you want is a purse right I mean you can you can look at that horse was bred by peasy Patterson and Vicki what are the percentages and are they structured well Both breeders and owners benefit from the plan are free your award for maiden made races is fifty percents are a breeder that's horses a bread I mean you just you know you can't ask for anything better what run down the awards we haven't talked about this in a long time twenty percent of pen and thirty percent at Chris Kyle we have hundreds of restricted races every year we just put in gene maiden claiming race it's twenty five or higher you can waive the claim if you have a PA at parks it's there's and Breeders Cup runners winters I it the whole program has has just gotten better and better given the for others owner bonuses up to forty percents at parks and a farm operators in the breeding operators absolutely I mean we're we're breathing we're seeing an increase in the number of foles a waiver of Maine claiming So any maiden want us I'm sorry not any meaning Clinton but at at Penn he's he's made an additional sixty nine thousand eight hundred forty over and above or in addition to so we call Paul who WanNa Delaware certified the stake a young won a couple of stakes in Pennsylvania quality of bears that the state has attracted and these are successes that kind of feed on on themselves and you mentioned Pinot there's there's any number of people that that understand these dynamics and are going to take advantage and that's why the mayors are showing up and it's a boon to unity to get back some of that money that they put out and they're harder time and effort before the horses eligible that and the money that they've made and I'm going to use our friends the old wellings in the Midwest pumpkin rumbled and any like this gets funneled back in in new horses that they they breed or that they buy and that you know isn't restricted in just a pencil we also have have discussed you mentioned call Paul who's competed at the highest level but the the string of Pennsylvania bread great at stake with go through and take a look at just all the opportunity to make a decision and what's the best way Bryant for people to does that get injured and this money isn't restricted you know just a Pennsylvania and the old wellings are a great example I mean taking the data it's it's healthy for the whole industry you absolutely and to Kentucky and Ontario that'll have farms in there that are looking for can rumble came to parks on Derby Day and one the opportunity that restricted PA and also an increase in the quality. I mean we have Prince Lucky running tomorrow and a bold ruler we have mirth that pre entered in the declined because as you know in Pennsylvania decent Pennsylvania bread boom that's suckers gone and we ah his winnings in the Mid West and Woodbine in open company steaks and for those that don't seem to the maiden claiming twenty where you can waive the wave the claim when we wanted to we wanted to give our breeders and opportune twenty five percents so we're taking care of them to any other races the Breeder Award Forty Percent Twenty Percent Ryan's that are available in Pennsylvania and you know my staff's is always willing to help out the your staff and the breeders staff that help people you know match their mayors with a place to to to board thank you Brian San Fratello PA BREAD DOT COM and the in two point people in the you know in direction That they WANNA go well I before I let you go how how did you make it you're seeing you know you're seeing this happen you know to eclipse award winners last year Shamrock rose and it it really helps it fixes and patches up spots you know horses you know to get in contact I mean in some cases they you know they may not they may not have relationships with some of the Farms is there somebody that that helps a that is back in on Saturday so she was off for a few months but hopefully you know hopefully show breaker I love it I love it Brian I appreciate it and continued success to the breeding community in Pennsylvania. Thanks so much absolutely in fact we're we're in the process now putting together the next stallion and Boarding Farm Directory for Twenty Twenty so in that and this fairly recently no yeah yeah well we had we had a horse that would claim from us you you you aren't going to finance your Operation Jeff Siegel standing by and last week at the end there was over the weekend I sent out those links to the Breeders Cup section at Expe- TV DOT COM Just a invaluable resource as you prepare for your Breeders Cup decisions and yeah well you talked about the new stallions and the breeding season coming up if you WANNA it'll be online and also go out in the blood horse across the ten states mid Atlantic States Clark Mike but then you have to actually see the video and then you can kind of verify your initial impression or maybe change your mind and that's the fun part of preparing for well and it's it's hard enough it's hard enough game but in some ways you can jeff good morning good morning how you Steve Good I've got how many replays have you watched since last week a lot of take the some of the edge often try to stay on even footing we're GonNa stay here in fact for the next forty five the breed go to P. A. Bread Dot Com and all the information there and there's a drop down of horses that didn't make it you know we we tried to breed we had We had some very bad lock me lost. We don't want to appreciate what this money does it it's money that pays for mistakes and for horses that don't make it and for mayors that come in and spend their time become a PA in Pennsylvania you'll have the list of the staff the only American her while we have daddy is a legend who ran a nice racer yesterday a tune-up for the matriarch stakes so tell we have a lot of great people on the Stamp Channel Performance and Wendy Gramm who were always there to answer questions what are some of your initial impressions of the pre entry race well I I haven't really gotten quite into the euro ask you as a regular and long established watcher of conditions out there how are you up for grabs we can always grab onto that if you're if you're covering the sport if you're if you're interested in sports and that's something you can look forward to as well Bella Unique Belvedere before finest city year before that so you know we're just you know we're we're we're we're oh you adjusting to and how are you going to approach the way this main track is in terms of how slow maiden and I'll get that fifty percents jump start jumped fifty percent bonus so better representation from Europe than we did in that the mile looks pretty pretty good I think circus maximus is going to be tough to beat in that race but so you have to who wins a couple of races in does Okay Anthony I mean that horses making over one hundred thousand dollars no he's not the very best that they have I it's hard to tell about the the two year old grass races until I you know get the video and start that but it it's GonNa take some getting used to if you're if you're a trainer because you don't really know how you have to have your horse to run especially in the I would tend to agree and the fact that Steve Asmussen got in early Dale Romans in relatively early Dallas Stuart although I do think they would benefit from it because as you point out this is a very deep and tiring track now I believe it is safe I honestly do believe it is and we talked about it already since the beginning of the meat how're you gonNA factor that in to the main track races and horses that are going to ship in basically the top of the races well I'm going to be very suspect about horses that don't have at least a race or a workout over the track it's not so much that they need it it has stayed there with seeking the soul after the del Mar try and race at Santa Anita and I I just think you know getting over you know I it's GonNa be tough you're I think you're putting your horse into a little bit of a disadvantage I you got here she's been here almost a month you know and So that that I mean obviously Steve is is you know he wants to make sure race I think that's important as well and you know I'm thinking about even in the sprint you know I don't know whether he's going to be good enough a chance lot had a nice effort lost to foles to lie foles that that didn't make it you know but you you still carry the mayor for the year while they're Info Ah in all the divisions I I may change my mind once I do the research but I thought that the like for example the turf I thought we'd get a little out this year with the brighter you're you're brighter stable Monica I I can't I I saw maybe maybe not I thought I saw worse as yet that's something I'll do once I figure out who gets entered you know I was I was a little surprised that we didn't have a little bit more strength in that on this track relatively short run of the clubhouse turn and you know you're always putting your horse in a position of maybe getting stuck way out and then maybe even losing your best and the money is you know I it's it is both as somebody that's bread just got the one horse the wheat bread in New York bread all the all the research and watching all the videos the workouts replaced I mean you can read the form and you can get an idea of what you think you might surface in a it it just it's gotta be a positive that you know horses are out there every day on it yeah it might be for example action to Mandela opting for the dirt mile with Omaha beach well initially I was surprised because when you're going a mile aimed towards horses that have had that benefit and that's why I think that trainers working ship in and run on the dirt grass is different obviously but if you went on the dirt if you're the people who are behind Omaha Beach I don't think you really have to worry about anybody other than yourself I mean if Omaha Beach I watched them trained since his comeback win and the mile you certainly can go to turns we know that's not going to be an issue and then the field may not be such an outside both with bothering even if he got one so in fact I understand why they're doing it they kind of figured out that maybe the mile might not be as difficult as contentious as aura role keeps his train movement as best we can and I want I'm going to pull up the list at for those that haven't visited those walking about following up Breeders Cup with a Malibu run and then the stretch out to a mile and an eighth in the Pegasus as as a three instance racist so I think I you know I wanNA be approaching nine won't say I'll demand that a race over track or work out but I'm sure going to you know who isolating those horses and then figuring out what I would I want to go with them or not well speaking a witch because we didn't talk last week what was your living in that was a disappointing but I thought we you know the thing about this this year is we we don't really have it looks fine to me I mean in fact he looks better than he looked before Senate is spring championship other than the last work which with sharpened forty six right before the race but you look at it I like that I mean you'd certainly like to see him fulfilling racing potential and train on as a four year old as opposed that everything all you know all the check the box checked and she's been breathing here so I mean not necessarily needs the edge but she hasn't if it's in Omaha beach do the same if a chance if he finishes out you know this is his career as the connections are hoping that he he will this the situation that all the races in the two days festival and and the Gambler the ports player you you go in there thinking that you want to be as prepared as you can all the for all the analysis Jeff and Zoe and millie ball all the videos you could possibly want under each heading of the fourteen races well we we'll save the serious and intense Breeders Cup conversation with Jeff for next week in the meantime XP TV DOT COM ZIP field and I mean there's some nice horses in there for sure I mean yeah you look at the some of the contenders but I don't think uh-huh thinking I'd like to win this race and I'd like to win Malibu and I'd like to win the bag of if I do that you'll be retired I'm looking at this feeling this looks to me like yeah you know something I think they did the right thing and I think you know especially since it's a natural springboard from the sprints Furlong Kinda got to him but he won't have that excuse if he's ever going to be able to win a race like this is going to be under these conditions so I I'm looking forward to to around a quarter I knew that was gonna be out because it was just no way he could have ready to go a mile and a quarter on this track off that one sprint but I do think it retrofit getting into mischief and he was just starting to get good as a four year old and retired him and I scratched my head on that and I said what are they doing that for I mean you know you can watch the horses work just it's all there for you and take advantage let's Jeff in the meantime turn our attention toward the weekend he's really been consistent and and nice and I see that sheriff springs back hard not to love in this spot and this one I immediate ability earlier in the year and then had a good four or five months off the hard spun Philly and I'm not even getting to the favorite it over the sandy desperate sprint championship back in early October and he he ran like a horse that really would benefit from having an outing I think that lasts the sprint and I think that they're probably right I mean some totally is going to be in the Branston you got a few others in there that are are really good in the mile you know I I think they did the right thing and it's something that I would not have done it now I look back they're smarter than I am because I think they made the right call and they race string for for Omaha beach so we'll we'll we'll leave it Richard Mandell very capable ads nine months came back earlier this month and one of very good allowance rates and I can't even believe that she wasn't favored in the ratings actually five to to I've won I've liked From the start of her career Gary Sherlock with the half a million dollar earnings show at the cow bread she's support the plug if he does finish out in the flourished but it's business you know and I kinda see it but I remember when when Richard she she's actually undefeated because she won her debut very impressively last December then was fifty cents on the dollar and a first level allowance going marquee performer to hang our hat on which is on the one end it's a little disappointing in the other hand it's we will hey let's make one that let's find one and of course horse of the year still up in off the layoff John Sheriff says the has to bring her back a little bit at a time but this is a Philly that certainly they've got it and we'll talk about Saturday in a second terrific autumn mist there is a race today it's just a force field but it has a couple of horses that that a chance for the race season starts you know and the springtime he had just sprinted he he didn't have to do any more than what he just did over the track al like she was going to be an oak type philly being pioneer the now and she's stumbled badly at the start lost the writer and then disappeared for about A. and just gallops comes back relatively quick in nineteen days which kind of surprises me it's not usually Bob Style but she did have a breezy means a flight back in early May she was favourite that day I've obviously something happened to her that day she didn't break that well and they stopped on her she's training really well for last time out and then another Philly who's I think pretty good and it's a mixture really I don't think she's quite up to this level yet but not a vessel a lightly raced into mischief Philly that's important so one of several I yeah now you know you look at some of the other sources that come out here and and not only train here but you know even had today's so obviously she's doing well and she is four to five in the morning line now hard not to love one refers to start she's a hard spun Philly John Sheriff's train was a distant third so that's it the motions on that I know that he's scheduled to go to start but it's not etched in stone that he has to be retired Mrs four year old season and really when you it's five preparing for the Super Bowl here you got a week or two to prepare and you know when Swansea get to the game you better be ready so now the good time to to race up mostly first time starters you do have sheriffs with a a serious player in here the Honor Code Cold Etiquette for Bob Baffert. Yeah this is the seventh race today at Santa Anita it's a pretty salty to other than rant and only five going so it's a good race it it's it makes an otherwise moderate Friday program look pretty interesting let's look at Saturday get a couple of opinions and they're going six and a half thunder code at this is out of the Nice Tarlo and and certainly you know with with two races under the belt and but there's some really notable babies in here baffert unveils the al-baas thousand words who was a million dollar yearling at Kaylynn last year expect to stretch out this is the half sister to wonder good yeah no I mean that's that was the plan and you know I mean I think they did that every old races for Pennsylvania breads and you know the picking a program and and picking a place to race we we say you know horses follow money and and having been beaten by American Theorem and then second to great power in the last the last dry at the end of September thing that's interesting looking at the at this group and to go back to hard not to love for second because I'm a little surprised that I guess her comeback and then you've mentioned showing mode is really hard knocking Cowbridge Philly who've made close to a half a million dollars She was fourth woman. McCarthy it's funny bread by Bob WanNA LOW BUT PURCHASED BY Mr Warren and his wife so in the familiar pink silks You know she obviously got hurt in that race I you know and then there's always grass iheart spun philly options there and I think with John did is he said look I'm going to be the pioneer the Nile out of Pomeroy pistol herself was a multiple graded stakes winner how about the half a million dollar Friars Road for Michael you mentioned some of the main contenders including Antica came off a layoff during the ninety six Byron Number winning a first level allowance and that's a steak number and never been worse than second in five starts and a little slower on the speed figures in the other but she's been training really well as well this is a two other than they talk about the autumn and the Second Jeff Siegel with us Jay Siegel racing on twitter and of course XP TV Dot Com the fourth race. I want to bring the -servative we've given her some time we'll bring her back runner in the second level allowance how tough and then we'll we'll get we'll stretch out of del Mar and then into the winter But right I mean they started out sprinting and she did that and they stretched her up stretched out but they moved her up to six and a half to one that and seven eighths and a steak and then that was well I mean why don't we go through that he's incredible stacking again they made the right they made the right call on that one but it would have been nice to see an image of train on and that would be nice to see how sprint I mean there there are three hundred dollars dollar states that aren't just stop so we'll see what happens today and a good seven three feature they had Fanta you're gonNA run against this group of Horse type it was like Anna Kit and the rest of these you would rather do it the state after the second level allowance this is got the makings of a heady and important maiden race we I mean there's a number of really promising colts in the fourth rate here on Saturday great promise you never know what these maiden races sometimes they come up with one horse it can run and sometimes they come up with three or four this one is a you got the undercoat as you mentioned the company as well at ten o'clock down the stretch I'll talk to you Monday at Santa Anita Oh that was a very tough live legitimate grade one delve are oaks that hit message comes out of and she really did run well to be second She was a list three go on a flat mile and there are more three-year-old restricted philly turf races this country maybe that any other work as well so it all it's very interesting race I think down the road thousand words is going to be the best of the group I'll see if he's ready to win right off the bat other expected them to maybe look at the Huey to Kaitlin obviously Simon decided to keep her here but good philly and good draw hard as he used to thinking that they're probably going to need one anyway so I'm not sure how a hundred percent cranked up thousands awards is going to be division it's unbelievable it's like every week around the country it seems that there's a three year old filly turf race well this is a great three but it looks like the great to or even a great one great one but it's it's it's got a great one philly in it for sure in hidden message and this goes as a seven act I mean he does have a forty six four work back in late September so he has been allowed to you know to to run on in the morning pretty pretty good but bothers God way with this idea of wanting and having to win first time out he does that unbelievably well forty one percent but I train them quite as stakes winner at sandown back in July so she's here she's a and this is a Philly that again I I won't say she's slumming that's not really fair but I would has making his way he's the latest Golden Gate and going Back Bay meadows the the most recent she's really something that we're GonNa hear about again a daughter got daddy she's GonNa be phillies it's going to be heard from in big time races next year you know who's being heard wise experienced my pay offer under code and again had those two runs and you an ice cold themselves let's dive into the autumn best the great running together actually virus wrote a quality road colts Russia's limbs map cold so I'm both are beautifully Brad Russia's eight thousand words thousand words he drives the outside post which is good a million dollars really pioneered the now he's on everything right in the morning looks like a really from on a regular basis and I'd like your opinion of when to bad him he's Oh for the meet right now but Jonathan Wong us two to one in the morning line for a reason couple of other nights colts in here that are making their debuts Mike McCarthy's got a couple of them that have been training well friars road in Russia they've been Andy but this is a good race hidden message show very good second in the del Mar Oaks Inter US debut for Simon Callaghan finishing very very well behind Tomorrow at Santa Anita the auto miss great three it's only one hundred thousand dollars and I say only because places around the country you're gonNA maidens for Nine Bay area trainer to make the four eight down to southern California how do you approach Jonathan and his runners that he sends down Hamby Your Park who was we know a great one feeling for sure and Lady Frances a lot with behind her in that race and she's come back and win one stake since then excess shipping down here now that might be a function of tougher circuit it also might be a function of training up golden gate fields on the all weather and then coming is a good trainer I think he's adjusting but his win percentage of north is close to thirty percent in down here it's not even half that so I'm watching we're going to be intriguing for me BAFFERT's got another Colt in there a half a million dollars two year old and training purchase named Roy odd that's a Colt by twirling candy who's done some good Pratt rides her back and she's the one to beat a number of other nights vilis in here as well that are maybe great two types but hidden messages looks to me like you're she's a quality called us to be in the morning when the track was fast that these these are the kind of horse that would work in fifty eight and two and went eleven chain with Bob doesn't do that anymore it's deep we floats north she's GonNa you know try to win on the front end and you know there there is some there is some other pressure I guess the cheaper of the two the only route seventy thousand in the two year olds sale but he pretty quick cold I think he's a little quicker than friars road at least that's what I've seen in the morning so I think those are two coats it seems like she could be okay keeper of the stars I'm going to expect that that five to one action down here in wedding in the very deep tracks of del Mar and Santa Anita he doesn't really have the the quality horses that he can run on grass so he stuck one of the most the golden gate he wins everything let's face it I mean he he I think he's what he what he does he look he's a good trainer he works hard and all that the horse was on the dirt and it's tough and I think he's kind of learning what to do and how to get horses ready to run them down here I can't run a shorter the goddess is going to go for sheriffs there isn't a ton though of of you know on the on the engine phillies here I down here and you know he's claiming trainer so therefore claiming usually don't train them very hard because they wanna say they're claiming North for the afternoon so I think he's I still think he's a good trainer I'll go back and forth by like with their you know with their place but up north it's almost a no brainer here you you really have to evaluate his horses ah what he gets a lot of southern California shippers that guys just want to unload so he gets a chance to run them cheap and he was a lot of races that way which is good now he has not had anywhere near the same And muccio unusual who I shine to for Timmy Octane speaking of Billy Ball muccio unusual in here as well Lisa big change she might be tough to catch I I saw her race up north one very nicely she got hooked him in turn and she shook off the you know the pace presser Glib very fast running on a pool table top and she you have to be able to quicken and accelerate especially in a big field and she does have that ability no and this is a a very fast philly midnight lute who actually ran very well in the Del Moro for self she didn't get the lead that day and very nice and tried to go a mile and an eighth gets back to what might be her preferred trip and she's tactical and and at six to one Again when you and your tim you figure okay that's fine we'll go to a great we'll drop down to a great three that's her level and then all of a sudden hit message shows up so again it's it's tough we go is tomorrow the day for Stretford and who really feels like a career maiden Khalid he has to prove that she's quite up to this level I thought that maybe she was just a tad in the del Mar oaks and a great one but the neck is he ever going to break his maiden is he ever going to break his maiden yeah I I think somewhere that aw was cut out to be an eyesore has run into plenty of Nice ones along the way including improbable right in his debut who he lost to hard you know and and he seems like he tries hard but he just can't seem to close seal the deal so I'm not sure if he's a gamble anymore for me I've tried them enough to know that I'm not sure whether he can be the good worth or not whether I asked the beat when you know in the race I'm not sure but she's still hung onto before beaten three lengths over a mile and this is a mile so keeper of the Stars is definitely dangerous if she gets loose on lead and they don't play that situation dictated that keeper of stars was moved with different Barnes Jonathan picked her up and yeah she's definitely a threat if she can get loose occur a lot of sources with the soccer connections that's what Old Trafford is so I I I don't be win one eventually let's put it that way it's exactly certainly you know I I love how Khalid shod names all the all the warm Get our feet wet dead we go to work that's going to be fun without a doubt Jeff I will see you as early as Sunday at Santa Anita and claim shy he's put a lot into the game and this one I don't know I don't know if it's tomorrow because soldier boy for Sadler looks excellent excellent been busy and we'll get right to it first of all you're pre-entry reactions either way we'll be together at some point during the week I'll be broadcasting from clockers quarter good luck this weekend it is a very good card tomorrow and which obviously is not the same quality that she's going to be here and you know I mean she's a Nice Philly she's very nicely Jerry Holland over had her have than the actual really really ratchet up and the intensity next week thanks Jeff Siegel everybody derosier standing by and we'll get to Ed right now Ed Good Morning I'm here there we go good morning how are you obvious favorites and I've learned the hard way at times as a public handicapper Connections of these horses can in stem to win but at the expected prices in the races they chose to enter I just don't see either is that much of a standout of ruler I they're taking the path of least resistance which I think is a bad thing I wish he was out here he's not ready I guess that's what the talent so those are two racism really targeting is typically a horizontal player that I think I'm going to have to get involved in the verticals but I have my favorites too Look stuff jeff anything else again he keeneland Andy Belmont and eating your is very much interested in things maximum security wants tomorrow and the sister Charlie of course price gets aided by magical likely tackling her in the mirror and the classic I think we'll see it but she'll she'll she'll lay your body down to mutuel unusual always does she always gives everything she has as does Jeff Siegel Jeff before can take that personally and it certainly no disrespect to accomplish forces like midnight visa and Omaha beach the I'm GonNa play again but he's running against older horses and pretty good graded stakes maybe he could've been out here doing something either in the spread of the Mile But WanNa see how he performs everything in the actual program order but this is the first year I can remember in a while Steve that I'm pretty excited about again ladder aboard as we've seen a while in that race with you know couple choices that people are going to lean to McKinsey et Cetera but plenty of other option unity Kafi is going to be you know there's going to be anti kaffee there's GonNa be I I know that the dentist is moment situation is shake loose inside Dragen amount as a member of his winning the West Virginia Derby just blew my mind and he never really ran back to that but it looks like he's rounding back in that top four I am out he runs on the graph even though he's got a dirt pedigree so maybe do time he'll do that and of course if cumin and the fat kind of curious to see Mr Freeze that that's that's why like lands chief to for to vanity on this course and this is a unique of course in a sense because very different but I'm sure they'll be people that are going to try to figure out a way to go elsewhere to me it seems like the two principals and Sharon she's she can get that half mile and in West than you know forty seven or forty seven or will be that's a he's tackling we'll see if that's going to impact them or not is that the rail and the bowl and he's got a pretty salty horse on the outside and older this is eight rings Dennis's moment Max field like one of them loses in my mind US wrong but I'm beating those two favorites I mentioned earlier I get it I'm hearing a lot of that in the there's GonNa be there's GonNa be because why get beat if you have a strong opinion on price but if you're finding yourself narrow around the juvenile I think it's almost worth picking the one you like Dale Romans and if he can get loose in Sidra killing going he might be able to steal that right so good racing tomorrow kind of like the calm before the storm with her International Scouting Report I think is is on par with what Peter Carey do with their patterns of motion analysis the worksheet and looking for a little break on that so encouraged people to check that out it's twenty buck who's the pre entries include the car PP's and one thing we added it's apparent mutual game and a lot of people are playing that way so even if you get McAfee all home let's say is the third choice that four to one is is it real I try not to get too far ahead of the Horse I'm definitely a proponent of waiting for the final draw just the manner how a handicap and were the we brought back are handicapping package this year that's something we've heard from people that Kinda hey you know by a bunch of stuff it's the Breeders Cup Ruin James and before we talk about any place today and the weekend Ed lay out the coverage at twin spires into prison puts into a and I have no shame in hiding dollar value that if people feel that worth the information which I fooled international racing and not only the European racing but how it fits with the Americans which is really how you're wagering next week at the Breeders Cup it's how they fit with these runner so you're gonNA play for two one in the Maltese especially if a favorite wins around them probably not so raith order is key here if you're does this time because it's it's typically been free but I just made the push at the office Steve What Kelly Reilly does the two as in the to be players they're they're pretty close I you know I love what's your what's your take far and the juvenile's one of those races you sort of struggle with for me as a horizontal player because I feel like you can cover it with three four races on Saturday and three on on Friday yeah I would say that she's a good writer and researcher so it's solid let's turn to some action any anything today before we the announcing on Wednesday and looking at the races around it and if you think you can get twenty thirty fifty dollar horse then yeah us off three on the road he's GonNa Bring me and I you know whether or not you know but it's he's one thing I'll say with them you know he he seems he tries ends if you WANNA get creative so there's some places to access or Charlie I can't imagine won't be the one I lean on those but I really think my wagering going to center around well-spent given the the depth now of of the European participation when you're talking you know when you're talking about the at Saratoga has been tinkered with being a few different trainers and now you've got a guy who really sharp off the claim so a lot of positive signs for me I doubt we'll get eight to one anyway you can still get her report as part of that and if you WanNa Allah car it'll be ten bucks and it's available on Monday but Kelly is is an oracle when it comes to Saturday yeah yeah I know we'll get the best of Ohio tomorrow but I do have to say today I really liked what Fox in the ninth race we do we're encouraging people to to buy the product this year so that will be available but it is for sale but it is part of the handicapping package so if you're getting a P P suspend and gambling a little bit you allow yourself a chance at it a bigger payday well we'll we'll do it all next week with the than really looking forward to what she's putting together next week and hopefully people will check it out no doubt that the ten dollars stepping up to allowance company after two three claiming races but it just seemed like forces is finally going in the right direction seemed to have some buzz as a two year olds let's start the Saturday you mentioned gust of Ohio and my knew that it would be a resistible and in fact at the top of the show Rod Paige Lucci and you know high oh so take a long look at that one today acumen for for ten but yeah mahoning opens today best of Ohio tomorrow you worry if if the horse didn't win so pick for might be dicey to play with such a big favor but I do like a couple of crisis in the lake double the best especially has that sort of pattern where either went on the front end or you come from the cloud it's it's just not the type of place where the the middle the name I'm drawing a blank on but was six to one on the morning line who I thought looked interesting training oppress style and then shows up on debut here rather than all all day anywhere You know I always Kinda I don't mean to be blue when I say this but it's one of those situations prince lucky who's very good that's an interesting race also looking forward to the Awad there's a Colt named yesterday who looked pretty good now cowpokes the pick four is racist five six seven and eight so race exits the sprint now. Pc Mile probably the most likely winner quicken the two year old races which are racist foreign five Moonlit Mission handled the stretch out last time that's number eight blue-chip the the the undisputed King of Ohio Well Tim Ham I think they'd they'd have to have a jousting match but just too good a form right now but don't think she'll be the favorite and I'm honored big time in the in the ninth thirteen Monday excellent how about how about some keeneland you got you got the the two races maybe as part of the cross country the moves

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Aw becoming interviews this is alloys Steve Brian San Fratello is GonNa join us in the second hour the report on mayor's bread from the Jockey Club came out and a again this year Pennsylvania continues to you know to be a a a bright spot on that front mayors making their way to pencil at Belmont and Keeneland acqueduct and Churchill on the horizon Churchill in fact another weekend of state bread programs New Mexico as well so those of you that veinous we'll talk to Brian as well so Tamra scully Beer Hammer factor Hammersley I've moved from Professor Hamilton website to save dot com and going into weekend that winds down the fall seasons and as well for the weekend there's a Keeneland Belmont Cross country pick five which I'm sure between between Nick and might be actually with scully today and Derosa and with Jeff Siegel later as well and Mike Beer we'll get some of my thoughts but nick and I got through on the Horizon Churchill staring us right in the face for Sunday and keeneland tomorrow the yet which came up good very good really really it's a force out at The for the empire sex on Sunday and plenty a jump in to his schedule so couldn't get the nick later and for those of you that listen yesterday and how about Rejang I asked rich right at the end of the show you probably just heard it actually and the replay I asked rich how about a simulcast nine of the fourteen races and the other five the late pick five we'll discuss here shortly and then maybe get a little maybe get a little thoughts in a good racing both today as well as over the weekend terrific card if Valmont today and particularly tomorrow we'll talk to their home bred by elusive quality and Availa with Chris Landeros at eight including horses that might have ended up in in the Breeders Cup the seemed like it and a few others lots a couple of notes about yesterday and will quickly take a look at the keeneland action ear and me and scully Rosa will craft the some opinions in there and of course Mike Beer our too don't forget at Belmont to the fact you've heard the ad this week at the because the Belmont season ends it's one of Ed special special days because tomorrow because it's best of Ohio the Ohio breads in fact is quite a bit of again Dr Hammersley Fried Ever Jeff Siegel to Rosa maybe who knows maybe a surprise as well before we get to nick you just got plenty of Breeders Cup discussion as well today a couple of quick notes Nick Tammaro is GonNa join us right off the top actually nick had a meeting Wesley Ward pop for the Ramseys to in that that turf sprint maiden for two year olds how about the return of are excited and owners and breeders that big day always on the state of fronts and actually speaking state breads daddy is a legend that he's a legend comes back for the hills as we mentioned and the Scott Daddy you know did some of the logical ticket building Hundred hundred to sixty for a dollar on the try great job rich Pennsylvania Brad Philly with a nice comebacker one at four to five and okay and he says you know what how about the fifty Keelan yeah how about it Rusty Arnold for Michael and Rico bomb they're just we're listening to the replay this morning on Sirius Xm lot of a lot of good feedback for just you know the gut reaction will do the same kind of thing they have two one nine hundred dollar for rich that was tremendous and the great job great job the two favorites were second and third so if you nice way to come back we'll see what what we'll see what happens next what George I didn't see any comments from George Weaver also we had looked at the maiden race and I'm just trying to find that whereas that maiden race very good right a rice fan series to nineteen except to a one sport so nine sixty four if you're listening to Siriusxm online and yesterday that in New York there it is the In the eighth it was not and the Godolphin Antoinette and we had talked about Fag Rian with Jonathan Thomas because you get the sense that Kathleen Kathleen knew what he had the entire time so ran okay at a big price to filled out the super the factory and did a twenty two to one But Joe Bravo uh-huh Antoinette to the wire coalition building the Chad Brown for Seth Carmen was laughable at at three two two you kind of went around and never never really rallied at all so that was the maiden race that that two year olds go along on the on the turf so model so one earlier appear to including a notable notable matchup that Chad Brown courtesy a Chad Brown on Sunday just a short just short getting there late there's other that I also ran good lost ticket for so first and third in here and the disappointment was so lots to do we'll get Nick Tamra in here first and bloodstock broodmare opportunities right after right after the Cup that allowance race from the State Bread paid nice to that L. Hermano for equity line farm so let stock sales take the stage now including of course the two big post Breeders Cup I should also mention the sale wrapped up a quick quick assigned on the yearling the end of the season Eleo Brian Today yesterday to one that Nice lawn twist of his so there's good races that will certainly bring up yes no that's a yeah okay appreciate it I'll mention to I'll mention and this is a tough race this this nightcap today is about eight horses that are that have all won races or come close and speaking of the Cup we'll have nick Nick with us now higher but today we got kid chocolate coming back from the good it's gotta be five months at least and got the chance because I know last week after Minnie mouse won the nightcap I I got it in right at the right at the then we have some time off to get back in and then the breathing issue so he's had said the two operations that he had surgery and throat surgery Dr Ducharme in fact from Cornell did the the tie back surgery on them and of course before that at the beginning of the year he had to have he was originally and he had a difficult riddling issue that you know had a testicle it is basically in his stomach and they fished it out and I basically is a ideally he's a different horse and it's been it's been frustrating but you just have to be patient so felt like as good a place as any to get started uh-huh Benji Hernandez will try to try to do it two times in a row to Saturday to Fridays in a row anyway and so we hope for the best that I hope he gets going and the these certainly grown into a big pants and horse looking at lucky and winning races and the is tough spot the comeback off the layoff and I should I should really put up should really put up the the the PS because they're interesting and I'm quite a bit later and she went short you know handful of times finally is she was always going to be a force and we couldn't we had that terrible weather last year and every time we tried to you you get certain expectations and dissipation for you know for for the first time going going along and is she always been one pace pretty much in a racist she'd made one middle move so if you cross out I you cross out all her her dirt tries and you look just the turf race you know the mile and a sixteenth option and we ended up with a mile and a sixteenth and and she was perfect for her just perfect so that was wonderful and the start of a of a career and if it doesn't go as you know as you hope you just have to reboot occasionally and back the minute mouse for once that was their best performance but her damn one to raise your back to back broker maiden won an allowance for Tom Bush gene from her and based on the dam that going long was going to work I didn't know Gary and I didn't really know mile and a sixteenth we were toying with seven furlongs or really she's a hard trying little philly to Nick Tamra joins us we found him naked you get a spot for the come off the turf and rain would come in and so she never had a chance to run on the turf until ready clear your cookies and clear your cache and close your browser and and try again because it is there and Casey morning how you doing I'm good I'm good and thanks again for yesterday which was well received by the way for those that that didn't have it on the late pick five and nick I it just seems like as much as everybody's dissipating Breeders Cup overall rebe reloaded it and you won't WanNa Miss Nicks forty-five minutes yesterday on the first nine races now we'll take the opportunity to talk about Eh on the archive and in the podcast delivery you'll have you'll have either shortly or it might be entites and and you know near misses for horses that probably couldn't have contended in grade one sprint races otherwise so it's nice to see some heavy heads in this division the Akwa duct inner going a mile and a sixteenth so there was there was reason to think that and just uses the there was really no reason why she should have been you know as big of a price last week and she was doing something new she was doing something it's kind of a I don't want to call it a mess but it's been a mixed bag over the years and some of the Santa Anita runnings we've seen some relatively average winning and the new version of CONAN goals but he's turned into a really nice really useful horse that obviously his getting back to the people a big problem for everybody else well and that you know that has been obviously the central focus and then when you when you fold it in his game perhaps it's they're based on the wins in both the the vanderbilts and last time out in the Vase Burke and I thought is whether Shantz a lot that won the Amsterdam is ever going to appear again or if that was kind of an outlier that is pop the Breeder's Cup sprint may be one maybe the race that people are it's a painting most yeah with good reason you know and this this divisions been now this is a this is a race that when you go back I hate to talk about remember when kind of conversation but sprints of the nineties late eighties nineties either -servative Lii and it seems at this point four Navarro is pretty much committed to this being sent to the lead very hard and being allowed to use all that natural speed and not and certainly next week it'll be a topic of conversation once the poster drawn when you're fold in Matola performance The other morning early two thousands we had some stalwarts that were really great and I hope that and I really don't think a horse like imperial is much far off of that you know I don't know if I WOULD WANNA call him period the or is it a little foolhardy to believe that he's going to get back to that and with that said provided there's there's a a big pace which I think is what we're all expecting there are a lot of horses pick sex everything everything distributes out of the classic the mile starts the last four of the weekend and this so you were tremendously game beating friendly fire and between him and Matali the conversation kind of starts there but you have the the mystery here his of of some some interest three year olds have done very well in the sprint historically and then there's then there's we'll see what Patrick being gone does taste that day so it's once the poster drawn you'll have a better a concept of what the pace will be like and and just how much that might heat up and and and how that might affect some of these horses because I mean boy if every speed or pace type ends up going this thing just looks like it has mile that's just not it's going to ensure that that virtually nobody's in so I I don't know if Matali it is at one thing is missing and I guess this is just because there's really been a dearth of it all year but there's no place in this race and anybody that's this race and then after that you know there's the euro's like circus Maximus I don't know much about Hey gammon and then Ronald GonNa put his head together with Bob Lapente and company and make a decision about about him and obviously he'd be I have to do some research on on that four year old we'll see about you know the rest of the euro's like that across entered like era desa et cetera really wants a piece of a lot early if he has the kind of speedy showed at Saratoga but again the that that was that something that we can kind of bank on happening again line of duty for Appleby Lord glitters for David O Mira you know it it's kind of a standard assembly for the mile not ever to be duplicated in our and the reason why I referred to it that way is because in his two subsequent starts he's been ridden a little bit more passively and a little bit more tom of real interest and I you know I don't know if if the last race was completely represented in light benefit probably chief among them in terms of having some having had success over the local surface and whatnot is Catalina cruiser Yup and and with with diamond oops who appears like he can do anything and you know he does have to six furlong winds and he's a horse also it seems like a very solid group the move of bricks and mortar to the turf opens things up for a team Chad Brown with owning they turn to the mile and of course the sprint as we said yesterday explained the pick five the late pick five which will pay out from the classic sold certainly that performance I think he's going to be you know wells shunted down in in the in the wagering and he he horse I think that everybody's GonNa want familiarize themselves with I got a little bit of Info yesterday from of course the one and only Pat Cummings who is just a a wealthy he then you've got to get stormy to as a counterbalance on the Philly and Mayor Front in here and certainly fillies and Mares have a wonderful history in here are accurate in terms of there being a bit of a being somewhat devoid of it I think that God stormy is very dangerous and she's a horse who's really come into her own it's generally have been very fast paced races almost every time it's been run there and I'm not necessarily saying that you want to upgrade like Bolo because of that Monday hey gombeen is that could sit behind speed has a pretty solid finish in vanderbilt rallying into a relatively so you know who knows what what kind of throwdown you're going to get yeah you know you're right it could be it could be ethic I mean you're potentially looking in an opening half kind of first off or or second or third on the list is really not gonNA provide any appreciable early foot so this might be a bit of an atypical Santa Anita Mile I would imagine that that's GonNa lead many in his direction well and we're waiting a for workout news today from Whitmore and King efforts both came on bobby courses so this is one undoubtedly coming with an eye on on firmer ground and the trainer of Hey gaughman James But Landis Scott who we talked about with Doug O.`Neil last week you know another horse that had been a little bit on the fence and I of knowledge on European entrance but he informs me that and this is a horse that we were kind of talking about yesterday I at least this type in that his two most recent somewhat actually Michael Dickinson's nephew so this is a horse that more than likely he's going to be ridden by Frankie Dettori so he's going to be very Well back at the windows I would imagine how as you said is is a a solid but unspectacular group and really to be perfectly honest I think if if the indications of pace however you have those dirty duck running lines that we were talking about yesterday that might lead people in other directions and and that could be basically all you need the domestic contingent and And and I was definitely a little skeptical of whether she'd run back through the strong force Sarajevo effort and I think she in some ways rent better in the woodbine station I think she's absolutely in the in the conversation and you WanNa you wanna comb the past performances with these mile and and it's going to be a horse in a prime spot from the start and having that ability to tactically position herself really might be might be enough to put her in the conference characterizing it as I did I think I've just grown I my own personal opinion I I've just grown to sort of hate you late who I really love Oh and photograph from the paddock schooling session for the asmussen horses and I mean she looks picture and feels uh of tactical advantage and yet here came midnight visa yeah I mean that's probably was a bit of a stretch in terms like you know feels like if she doesn't win it it's a you know it'll be a monumental upset essentially earlier time or at an appropriate time the worse I keep mentioning whenever the mile comes up nick is that L. Tormentor that I think people will immediately just the to turn back in the Philly in Mayor Sprint and they're opting for for this spot instead I would I don't think you could have asked for much more this race that should have should have some early speed and that might just be quite really be enough I'm air and not that there's uncertainty because I don't think secret spice is as fast but you know secret spice it it seems to me had a better yeah it'll probably he'll probably be one of the shortest if not the shortest prices the weekend and with good reason we obviously she's been incredible this year I'm very intrigued by and it's it's a little a little surprised at myself I think for ending up wanting to land here because I've been pretty critical of I'm going to bet some the reason he was that Bryce he was all dirtied up from repeated bad trips absolutely yep that's that's kind of exactly what we're talking about in there have been a lot of forget about and and assume because of the price that day in the Woodbine Mile that that you know doesn't really belong just a reminder that the this is regardless of how you think the track is GonNa play this is just a much better spot and I'm expecting her to be able to get to the lead well I think part of the the key a case regarding midnight be running down a good horse I mean the the script going into that personal ensign nick was that late was going to have all kinds of the hill and then full circuit at Santa Anita and bricks and mortar anthony Van Dyke and are the fastest horse in this race and Tommy Miss knows what to do with the speed horse and I'm GonNa play her to wire this field I think she can I think the midnight bees having to run down of instances over the years where in this event you could get a horse that ended up going off two to three times the price that they should have been and and he was a great example of it last time and getty emphasis in this race and I liked the announcement that's lazy in practice getting on her I think there's going to be one plan here and she is by far way to lose a race that she should have just won very handily and and I think that her rider could have been blamed for part of it but you know that's a different different kind of conversation I mean abuse who obviously is the horse to beat I think one other that you want to at least open up as a possibility is Dunbar road because she's lightly raced and clearly improving and from hurt to get right into the mix the turf of course the Prequel to the classics so the late double and the mile and a half they'll circle off at woodbine this will not unfold similarly to that race at all where one horse ran off by open lengths and and he kinda waited and waited and then pounced later on like this is the horse that he probably believed early on needed to kind of be brought into Santa Anita a little bit more slowly a little bit more cautiously just because Komo man you know there's not a whole lot and Anthony Van dyck while probably a horse that's gonNA benefit from being on firm ground is one quality I might be a little bit more than she wants and and I think you'll get a square enough price guarantee empress was really in an unwinnable spot last time at parks and comfortable being tactically positioned and producing that one run I think he's GonNa win this race and I think depending on what happens with the rest of the weekend he's probably going to be a pretty ah grown leagues and it's actually made me kind of despite everything that that more than that but Yeah I mean Elat found that again like most eight Brian Horses has has been in some bigger object 'cause he's a little bit more lightly raced though so he's a little atypical of of those types and it does feel no he's not an I I think that having a horse like acclimating the race is actually gonNA help channel maker because I think that even though his else yeah it's not there's not a lot of depth and I see a lot of people seemingly lining up to say the bricks and mortar of either vulnerable or a horse feel like you know whether he went in the mile or the the turf that you know he was he was going to be a heavy lean I will mention probably gonNA end up being the worst of the year absolutely a scenario that delivers that honor to him and I agree I any issue at all I think that the mile and a half at Santa Anita is quicker race then you'll find pretty much anywhere else and and I think he's just so I will mention that channel maker it doesn't seem completely impossible in here I think there's an argument to be made that being incited keenum last time could have been a bit of a disadvantage so I think there's reason to believe that she can run a bit better and it's not going to take a whole lot for in terms of improvement but the old burnt old Persian on a on a firm turf course is going to be very dangerous but I'll be honest with you I think bricks and mortar is very likely winner of this race I don't think mile and a half utterly beat the distaff starts the late pick three and midnight be Su yesterday video here was just very foolishly written by the respective riders of Sadler Joy in which I'm surprised savage joy injured I'm surprised he's not in this race or is he retired no no no he's he's that type he's he's that firm ground that might not be able to hold up two hundred twelve race campaign obviously plenty of people are going to gravitate to older version also the winner and then he'll offer some value to maybe not more than a placing chance but I think he'll definitely run better won't take much room to run better than last year's Breeders Cup Turf I think he will he does absolutely I think he'll probably I would imagine the instructions there would be to sit offers acclimate a kind of grab the baton when it's passed to him but looking forward to vetting against and and I love when everybody has these kind of hot takes Breeders Cup time at my question to all of them has been well who are you betting you look through this field and you kind of go that in the turf course was was rather firm it just compressed the whole field and arguello in a heads up match for half mile with horses that don't have the Europeans and anybody else who wants to settle run finally we get to the classic and Steve asking and I spent a good forty minutes yesterday kind of going through everybody it it's it's a fun assembly and have you have any initial feel that the way this thing is going to unfold but it's a competitive bunch and I think you'll find a couple of different places to go that work you know I think there are two past performances by horses in this race his kind closing kick is always GonNa win so I think channel maker ran well enough in there and I do think that that he does have a shot at the mile and a half on this kind of turf course that you can specifically point to and say if those horses run not that race they're going to win neither of those horses are going to be favored and I mean yeah you know what it's the quintessential good bad race right there's no stand out there's no heavy favorite it doesn't quite have the cash as it did in the past I like Mongolian groom that stays committed to the front end I think you're supposed to be critical of Mackenzie you're probably supposed to take a a negative stance on him just with his record is on those two because I think that higher power was hurt last time by the setup and I think Vino Rosso really really validated that performance from from you know Roseau and higher power if you know Roseau runs his Hollywood Gold Cup and higher power runs his civic classic they're going to win and and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa mainly focus at the time average specifically sent him toward the Red Smith Okay well you know I wasn't biggest wind today was in last year's Joe Hirsch and it came with him setting the pace I think he's actually going to be a little bit better with a target and and and the the the Joe Hirsch that's the thing she'd be seventy two three two one I mean I don't I don't first of all I don't less the or less perhaps right she probably will be and it's going to take a hell of a lot better than she's ever run to even get into money I wrote up the the Express Bet wagering throwaway line or my last line there was a late isn't facing escape clause and plenty of consideration obviously if the pace materializes it will help his chances the one worst it's GonNa take money in this race that I want absolutely no part of and my personal feelings aside is late yeah I think there's definitely some legitimate ace and of course bricks and mortar is not really a horse that that is the pace dependent all but he'll get a decent enough setup as will the mile quarter competition for come on I it just it it I agree I don't you know she she got beat in a a nasty really didn't click and that happens of course on occasion so we'll see how much better he runs I'm not in a big rush to take him out of short price I think code of honor is a horse it certainly deserves photograph by you know by midnight these Su- I I didn't really understand this personally I I completely next week for some final thoughts and ticket building exercises and so forth but this was invaluable and again the first nine races of the weekend I look I applaud sportsmanship and trying things that are a little bit outside the box but I like it better when they're more in the realm of possibility nick everybody will be together he would be a huge price in here and actually I thought in some ways ran some of his better races this year but that being said the pace of the dough hurts this year was so slow we'll take a timeout right now back and get James scully in here he'll have some keeneland ideas then might be at a mile and a quarter and and somewhat dull effort last time I think the jockey changes good now because Joe Rosario is better than Mike Smith but it felt almost as if Mike Smith in this it makes no sense to me and she actually would have been a decent wager and and had a much bigger chance in the distaff so I I entry for the classic on Wednesday and under the competitive under the contenders section my my meanwhile this horse lost a blue prize last time and and and you're somehow it's total backward logic that she belongs in a significantly tougher race cut off at some point yesterday and anything anything Belmont keeneland related tomorrow I haven't done too much may in the Jockey Club Gold Cup he'll be forwardly placed and I think he's capable of stalking and pouncing a more so than having to necessarily make the running I if if you get I had a four hundred meter against a bunch of teenagers that everybody was oh well he should go to the four hundred the next Olympics but now he's a sprinter right he's not supposed to do that because he beat weaker I think the idea that she belongs in this because she's beating a bunch of horses at Delaware in a mile and a quarter is just insanity I don't see why Elat should be single digit price wise we'll do Belmont with Mike including the cross country cross country is the Belmont seventh eighth ninth and the Keeneland eighth and ninth and the Internet is lighting up with news that cool more has secured the breeding writes state rings because she beat bad competition or lesser competition at the same distance I it's it's sort of you know if if if you saying I agree that the staff to me you know she would she what price would she be in the in the desk staff you mentioned acclimate as the pacesetter but the addition the late edition by Jackson of Bandera at some at some pace too I think how about that so an empire Baker son the first prominent since empire makers return The Breeders Cup Nick thanks so much this was great I'll see you out there you bet sounds great have a good weekend and Tam T. a. m. m. one two one five astor's plus informed their stature trans you won't find anywhere else expertise Jeff Siegel after raises radio host big NBC sports analysts Nick Luck and most and not that escape clauses isn't a nice horse but sneaky betty we're we're going to hold up sneaky betty as as exactly I guess it just depends on how low midnight would go but I don't understand it it's almost as if the thought processes that you're conceding this after midnight visa do when at the end of twenty twenty two twenty twenty one back after this James Scully we do the same exercise with Nick on the archive and we'll resend the podcast our that that had actually Sunday October twenty seventh learn more at NYC DOT com slash empire six the empire six place mall and win big North America we'll go to coma after his career is over which hopefully is embraces five Friday November first and nine Saturday November second you got to be ready kickstarter handicapping Mojo with express free Breeders Cup wager guide available online fresh that DOT COM beginning Friday super twenty-fifth get analysis elections price plays one hundred dollar wagering strategies for every Breeders Cup race from expert handicappers broadcast tweet to give everybody a look I'm excited maximum security but yeah I haven't really dug into the car too much we dug into the first glance at the kind of leapfrogged and perfect time to check in with you kick closing a couple of days at Keeneland spin a it's been a really fun meet Good Morning James Roney thanks for having me your great to get your last week we we recent aberrations with Steve on Sirius Xm radio don't wait with fourteen challenging breeders carryover Jackpot Best of all it only takes twenty cents to take down the empire one unique winning ticket earns the entire Netflix Hulu plus the Jackpot carryover without a unique tickets seventy five percent weaker competition and that's almost it's probably a little extreme but it's almost the same analogous to what's going on here and and I don't when everybody to it's funny to me that it comes from a lot of people that have been revised guide version debatable beginning Thursday October thirty first go to express bet dot com now open an account get two free guide and play Breeders Cup Accompli during his fully Cliffs Award Winner Dick Girardi Acura powerful team of guide experts NBC sports analyst Eddie Olczyk and retired Sportscaster Brent musburger visa will contribute not permitted in all states national problem support line one eight hundred five to two forty seven hundred play the pyre six at Belmont park featuring daily payout horses a made their debuts have emerged on these programs and get pretty exciting cast of some two year olds in in the attributed to winners with twenty five percent added to the Empire six consists the final six reasons he stay at home on park as the next Jackpot carryover mandatory payout the smallest purses ninety five thousand dollars so it's a really lucrative card with a lot of big fields and putting away during opportunities and plenty of places for people to take shots GonNa wind down and then the scene shifts back to Churchill downs on Sunday saying all along well midnight visas better than a late late it's not any good and she's overrated she's well she's all these things so let senator to raise that she can't win right I just I don't get it we're back the racist coming up on twenty to the top of the hour jake scully joining us from put spires resent Saturday and then you churchill opens on Sunday got a pair of overnight stakes Iraq's riches street cents at one turn mile for two year old take a became really a standard on the on the calendar and and you'll find all kinds of all kinds of prominent horses that made their debuts or got their maiden wins taste exercises and this is always you know you look back over the last several years since this kind of uh the November season at Churchill and let's talk keeneland before we talk a little early impressions of Breeders Cup from going to be plenty of horses that don't win that have talent so there's some prominent pedigree reason really a great way to to ease into here's last year's street sets right that improbable That was his coming out party absolutely yeah that was on the Breeders Cup undercard Friday horses that the that may have shown tactical speed and they have the opportunity to you know to move at either it starts tomorrow card so all the races that other nine undercard races all maidens or allowances for two year olds and he's Fund the beginning of the meat and the end of the meet with these with the two year old stars cards and all we gotta do is think back to last year from your perspective what do you want to start with today yes Charlotte of will start with today there's couple of right the more you know the they don't even have to win they might it might just be starting their careers you know when you look at at all the maiden specials that are on that on that card Sunday a up there today it's been a great week like in sixty sunny but it is going to rain tomorrow the forecast is for heavy rain so expecting a wet track at keeneland on and says number five is a turf of Mt Aid Turf Race for two year old phillies Brian Lynch hits second time starter in their number ten semaine embrace five nice and then the next rates on today's card is a it's a one mile yeah I'm definitely you know today's the Nicholas Day and it looks like you know going to have a fast track when he's going to hold off until this evening so to be a beautiful takes James Graham takes them out James I'm one to racist yesterday says Rodwell and She's one of the morning line don't know if that price a whole but she looks pretty good report L. at Birla actioner date you and really had a wide trick up this slow start at a real wide trip finished up willingly for Dr But to the races with Steve on Sirius Xm channel She's come back with two works in the interim at Churchill and gets first timely art but Yeah I say the meat is starts tomorrow one car and then the final Saturday the meat is the stars of Tomorrow Two card and yeah I mean lots of good disclaimer forty thousand dollars three now and you know the four horse here in Croatian really was at Churchill to starts back when he won that really I thought he was the just showing steadily-improving forum off back to back seconds and and in in those in those two sets Brad Free who else marcus and Dave Greg and so on and so forth but back at at the mothership they're really a competitor of ten and You know I I've been I've liked the way that bowel harbors come on Saturday let's Donald Track I'll start with the the Fed stakes pretty pretty solid and I mentioned one other on the car earlier on the card and race number six mom at sixteen aw at a lot of speed and and she's GonNa show speed and tough to run down number one kinks Cadillac car I thought ran a a solid second day last time out at Churchill downs just didn't you know broke a little bit belatedly got caught a traffic and anything else tomorrow now that's really all I gotTa Keeneland so far I did look at the Churchill Sunday a little bit ended his way to to run you know better races for his form last time keeneland on October fourth he was stuck inside the entire way ran and even sharply winners and you know have some promise to Pick now in Philly but I will I thought that effort okay got it got caught in traffic had to stop and regain momentum Roseburg late in the end of the first time lasix the took a step forward in that moment cub really is I speed writings really rose in that race got two one five per running hit second a war story and decent price sixty one in the morning on and I look with curious form for their Croatian and the race very good and number seven secret stash last time first time. US for Kathy she was coming off a big win in Ireland and really just just have bad trip that a maiden race this pink Scotto I to manner I two starts on turf at Santa Anita then switched to the dirt at del Mar the wet track two wins from three tenths on wet tracks one ki-mun last fall over allowance rivals and just just in a positive really came back with a sharp effort last time really a career-best back the he's a gelding four year old Yeltsin's got some promised next year keeps moving forward for Pletcher life in his life to raises you know I thought is efforts when he came back off freshening and lay may ran in the salvator it's in those races you know we're just okay she just spit the bit come back and worked well for Mark Glatt since then wrote words there picks up the now she's one of the morning line and I think that race doesn't have in today's one of the they got a couple allowance races the eight nine but I in the eighth race it's a pretty pretty I think recycle head in the right direction I think he's GonNa be tough to be tile gasoline on his he's been on fire as well right tolerance very good and Ford got got claimed that day we hawley raise his from thirty pack of forty tag and I think he's going to get better trip today and you can go over cheese steaks races one is the rex riches it only got seven phillies and especially horse to beat by Tapa -ture really a sharp wind speed rating percents speed reading ninety five regular main missing field was caught a couple of on the edge in saying that move out coming both says it's all at work in preparation Ricardo Santana takes over the mouth of forty one in the morning line secret stash it's not taking race eight today all right turn to five and a quarter lengths that runner-up came back and won or next start Krizia and So flattered are clearly the one to beat in there but I will mention Philly the Dow to add like in some multi-race beds maybe a little boxing exactly is that gone glimmering I I liked If you want first to start in Indiana grand for Thomas in convincing fashion didn't run those that fast in those races but I thought last time in that outside bodies with a big step for she was really you know in a good position until the stretch where she got a little tired but still held onto before it's been a big field and that's just the stinky effort for her to prove palm because I thought that was a pretty darn good field but it British Shitty unperfect Albina Al Endre Alumni phillies and she's wanted to look at she's also by capture temperature constitution I mean tap it really got going on with the patient young sons it's it's small but but a nice field how about the boys race in the boys race you know South Bend comes in their undefeated pregnant in the morning on favor but really just you know he hasn't gotten out of the gate of neither rain clothes like glass I spoke times that at the top strategy to take I looked at tap it to win it's a potential rebound candidate because he broke from that in as on the far turn and wiped out and you know you know interfered with a couple of rivals and then just spit the bit Reddaway he'll probably show speed God last on the truck power try to try to take him back a little bit and he did not like that at all he basically went sideways you know he's eligible to rebound in there but I wound up landing on number six silver prospector for asks me he made his first three starts on the turf Raynham you know a little awkwardly immediately reunited sat right behind the the pacesetter and then just finished up really well gotta be yeah resenting resenting the restraint is is correct if you want bends races I mean the movie makes them both terms speed number four and it's not just envision him the right trip off the inside speed and being tough there silver prospector number six street cents algorithms this little interesting well plenty of LS and Saratoga Company in these lines when you look you know in in a stakes race the third time out he ran six and that Kentucky downs juvenile turf sprint what his maiden win which in the dirt last time Akim Lynn it the maiden races as well and really one of our favorite one of our favorite cards as that this and the one at the end at the end of the meat looking forward looking forward to Sunday I'll be in California by that and that'll give us something something I look forward to in the afternoon out there speaking of being out California let's spend the rest of the segment together the James Getting some early yeah that's a fun group and you mentioned tap into win and from Mrs Weber Yeah that was a fiasco and it's pretty catching it he'll be one to watch for Shearer I'm you know it's asking a lot to go the last person through straight races but that that that's breeders cup juvenile juvenile back when she was sixteen when classic empire and not

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PART 2: Mike Beer, Alan Foreman

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forty seven i no you need to know where that oh no rebecca races ninety minutes ninety the come in like beer from the daily racing form joining us because well okay because eddie eddie's off doing something i is getting ready for the the move a the saratoga i don't know what he's up to i dunno maybe or did he go you know what he could have gone when was when we see a one of the dead and company show that is that a change with that last night or die before i'm not i don't think he said he was heading up the saratoga may i dunno in i know he's off yeah the entire week he deserves it deserves a couple of days off that guy though no no no no no he doesn't at all he needs he had he had all of january february march that churchill to delight letter to you you know know he's a he's a he's a he's a i forgot he's a i i guess i'm not at liberty yeah he but he's actually taking he actually got on an airplane advil it i think we wanna talk about the world's worst traveler it's not even close it's in the best is the rental cars have you ever have you ever had the listen to the car at now no it's unbelievable he first of all he's he's also he's he's not from the great drivers historically right right yeah he's he's a the best that ask ask him about the deer about the deer story a he he driving you know he basically drives now you've heard the fact that that's great it's it's a it's right up there with you know with with the tiger in the back seat of of a hangover and the the the the backseat and planes trains and automobiles at andy andy in the deer a heat when i was i had already gotten too hot springs this year and andy flew into memphis he's gonna be delighted that were talking about this yet he flew at the memphis and i i do that myself i i fly into hot a it's a little rock and then i fly home from the trip out of memphis but everyone's gonna fly in and out of memphis so he read the car at memphis and and that was a whole to do and and then he's calling me i i swear to god every twenty minutes now it says this it's it it says exit i know just the following the little rock in the end that and then he'd get closer the little rock and and it was like it which which which which exit which exit and it says after hearing here just just follow the just keep fi gave him the whole thing and then right right oh my god it was it was like one of those scenes scenes in the movie where the where the people in the tower are are are having you know a flight attendant land the plane i swear to god i believe and he was like you're upside the with a hotel what he's saying at a hotel hot springs and then he's like well where's the hotel committee it's the town is the size of a postage stamp you you you you can't you're not gonna have trouble finding the hotel which is crazy insane how he's comfortable and saratoga is comfortable weather fogo that's true and he's also of course like it in manhattan that that that's right he's in a lotta ways he's like a deer because they say dear dear don't venture more than two miles away from where they were born typically oh yeah okay yeah yeah yeah he's very comfortable in those places yes yes said that that says those there is through a that's his urban suburban setting saratoga in manhattan well less speaking of suburban setting out to long island we go and we've you know we've got the mother goose on saturday they'll draw that tomorrow but for our purposes mike a how about a three day five hundred thousand dollar to dollar pick six count carry over morosi we've got got pretty tough last weekend nobody could find the right combination and then here we are with the just a gigantic carry over i mean you know i guess you gotta feel a little bad for you know whoever those people were were alive on sunday just just to the favorite in the last 'em got beat on now maybe another to not have you had any excusing there but they were still very close 'em so you gotta feel a little bad for those guys but 'em what it leaves us with is this gigantic carry over almost one that you know if you have like you have to get involved gotta pull some fun together you get a ticket and you gotta gotta take it on this thing this is a half million dollar carryover who knows how they both can be well a couple of notes about that and i did mention it's funny i mentioned the to two hundred fifty thousand dollar a potential winters that got beat by cat lady staff feeding mike's girl by a a nose a looming ray us who's been hot lee race has been winning races and this one you're the two people they got beat i really should reach out to to call in and do but sees because there is always the chance in that setting that they were the ones that were alive as the only they have their brother veto of a fact i think you know what i'm gonna pause told that story before paul paul oh yeah greg i think greg horse the you know what it wasn't even just crank it was a horse that paul old oh my goodness that he didn't have on on that he didn't have and i don't know if it was the last leg or not it might have been earlier but he got beat out of eight they big pot asking that story first day opening day at saratoga the backyard all right well wow oh i will for sure a lot of money yeah it a that that is making laugh just thinking about it but he absolutely told that story and there was a yeah you had you had sixteen to one listen to listen to your heart winning a that maiden race the state bread of course off clermont i don't know how often you're getting lamont that thirty five dollars thirty six dollars whatever it was and on saturday a up centers including louie race with the thirty one shot that the mona hand from michelle eleven right now is enough that was only horse everything else was within our mafia yeah yeah that was the one that put it on saturday for sure and i'm trying to think what else was it didn't get gary had a gary had one but i a decent price but maybe that was a couple of weeks ago or last week i think he did have ron i all right disney i the gary's one for ray said we we've kicked off the with with with carlisle bell a gary one four five racism in seventeen days we don't think that really wasn't the only one on saturday monaghan what's the one day yeah the twenty eight the only one that that was really the only one on the horse that won the first image of you know the first leg was one of those wide open no that wasn't even the first lady that was the first monaghan right i think was the first one i get a pick six right outside of that so that was that was the first one after that it wasn't it was free yeah they were that difficult so yeah that was definitely don't wanna put on saturday that well they'll end up just looking there's a one to yeah louie louie race one two on saturday and a one that nightcap so three for him a over the weekend a good job by i guess you could say maybe the bond made in the one the stallions were paid twenty three dollars out of their homes with impossible but i wasn't there like right before fat lady stuff i guess that knocked out some tickets with a favor on second that's true that was a twenty five dollar worse to run all these hours with a maiden yeah yeah and then you had the first a that was a big price going first time out i just thought it was somebody with a little proper then saturday that's for sure well we don't care at this point because we have got six racist starting with the third tomorrow and that that gives us the opportunity to do something good and i check the weather i told everybody was waiting the after the break the weather looks okay tomorrow there's some thunderstorms today but they'll do everything they keep these races on the five out of six around the grass i think were alive keep him on right right you have out of step let me throw sprints on yeah they gotta they gotta keep these races on you only get raises a two year old five furlongs brentford brad so they they gotta stay on after all right let's let's dive in i'm going to turn the turn it over to you as the third kicks it off mile and a sixteenth on the user these were forty claimer says some and is actually quite a few good horses in ear including mr maybe who feels like he's been around fourteen years they don't feel like he's been around forever as a youngster mania newman he's he's the eight year old guy in the field on in this race and mo bridge has drawn to his inside is not so resources have been around forever arm it's it's a field of six around her fraternal 'em and i don't know man i thought it was pretty difficult to separate the sex they all they've all got a race that's gonna put it in there i think the the first thing to me anyway that stood out as you know the is apparent lack of pace in the race there's really not any speed a man i think that complicates things for a couple of other horses and you know maybe it gives an advantage on really source applicator it it just feels like you know applicator peter not that he's a big speed ball but it does feel like he could just get to the front in this race and you know i don't think that would hurt his chances he's timmy he was a hard horse the get behind on when he came to new york because brad cox claimed the source for eighty 'em last march and then only got three starts out of a one win out of the three starts but that's all he got out of him when he came back off the layoff this year on bread hadn't been for twentyfive is almost like he couldn't wait to get rid of their source on he want that day he didn't win that impressively buddy one 'em i thought he actually ran okay off the plane faludi last time he was in a common raised with a lot of these horses for resources were in that may nineteenth race i thought applicator ran pretty well and there he didn't get at a great fight in bank abiding star wired the field bomb he bought his far one very easily on a loose leed on i would applicator you got a little bit tight in the stretch and actually did pretty well the finished i have no problem with this worse i think could make the leader in this race and that could make him really hard to be on i still have a tough time you know bully trusting them but he's definitely horse i'm using a the pace of the raise also makes me wanna use show laco in some way i can can be eight and he's the longest shot on the board as far as the tour forces go and he hasn't won a race on turf since november of twenty sixteen it's been a long time to this worth wanna turf race but i think it's worth remembering that he was a good turf wars early in his career there was a run here especially in new york where he won five out of six races on turf and he was he he was really good early they've been mostly concentrate on a dirt with him lately but he can handle turf and he's got speed i think you're gonna get forward in this race on jose ortiz takes them out you know he's gonna try and get this worst born from the outside post i dunno i i don't know if he's if he's in the form now his form does seem like maybe heading the wrong way but he's got a raise in him that would make them tossing if you get the right trip in this race so you know he's one i liked him including going back to mr maybe you were talking about the the office i i'm using that horse on he has been around forever he's another horse is not what he used to be i think he's run while in his first two starts off the layoff though he came back at this level in that abiding stories and he ran great to be second he was a big price but there was no pace he was out there three and four wide be entire way on chasing around the turn i thought he did really well to get back in that race and he would just into tough last time that that'd be able to talk to him he's still ran is raise that day as far as i could tell he's come back in good form on i'm using him and he was acting my topic in the race on in in my analysis you know mobile the morning line favorite steve he could win there's nothing wrong with bridge he crushed a state by twenty five players last time he he's an interesting horse because he's only one in new york 'em and he's he's one eight races in new york in his career he's only one again state brad's 'em in new york he's never won an open race in new york he he went through is your current conditions as a young horse an every new york when since then has been a state bread twentyfive claim i just like the last one that's all of his wins in new york since he got through his condition so you know he's found it a little bit tougher when they step up like this he did win on open allowance race the fairgrounds 'em in january he ran pretty well that day but i dunno i could see mobile winning i wouldn't want it completely leave him out but but i don't know he doesn't have to win this race has the favorite he is off the plane for cancer macci who i think he's doing a really good job but he's not he's got something to prove as a trainer you know he's he's only starting twenty horses on tariffs over the past five years and just one turf winner over the past five years so this is what he does on but this is a good horse mailbag i think he's kind of cameras were you don't care who trains on the disco run for anybody but you know i'm a little skeptical nights if you don't see a deanna nology of of the name robert robert now yeah what if we i seidler a block this a veteran indigo shiner originally and a name the name mo bridge for belmont it's his hometown oh you know what i think i did hear that that's right okay i forgot we had the story that the start of his career that's for sure we oh we sleep i remember we sent me a text oh i got the greatest indigo shiner in history i gotta have you gotta be the best indigo shiner ever any you know he useful useful down in south america there might be some horses i would argue and say well i'm the best indigo shine around that's exactly what he's made four hundred thousand and then he's been around a lot of that hard rock solid that are no doubt speaking speaking a rock solid guys let let's let's let's acknowledge a let's acknowledge the the work this out cone does because he's got hard won't tap first off the claim taking one here from michael stem and coming right back to the the forty forty thousand and i i don't think the tacona we went out and won in california is now back a fulltime and consistently wins and a i i'm impressed gets on you know on zone horses and a i is this proving very capable yeah i'm impressed with him to he's he's a really good young trainer on he's another this is the second truck on the morning line i guess you know the one thing you have to say about this source who also has plenty of races are gonna win as they just don't have any case he must be so we'll see if this race that's up well for him on the last race when they ran over forty it certainly didn't he wasn't that abiding star race and you could just tell by the time they got to the top the stretch he he didn't really have a chance in that race he had a lot of ground to make up and he actually finished really well adjustments third in that race so yeah i mean if he did anything at all i would expect to see him running at the end of this right for sure well these issues you got here there are six sources available a you know that that could go post word and this there is not an easy toss only are we didn't talk about his golden spear and steve sarah's eminently capable and a you know he's seems to be at the right level the worst they got kinda passed around a little bit earlier this winter and a second off of a brief rationing sixty days little less forty five days in the steeple sarasota steve was there is not a guy a big money that you wanna just the gloss over right and other horse who has some speed to so you could see the stores would i read you know maybe if i go for the first 'cause he could do it i mean i didn't love his last race on his first off the claim he was you know that common race it abiding star when he didn't really do any running at all in there and he got a good trip but you know he was off a little bit of a layoff so you know maybe he needed it and maybe we'll get more aggressive this time i know i'm with you i don't think there wasn't easy toss in this race it's one of those things when you're playing the picks section and you gotta decide it's not just about you know how many you wanna using this race you gotta think about how many years down the line to and and try and figure out which of the races you wanna spread in which other races you wanna try narrow down if you can i thought this was one you didn't wanna maybe narrow it down to far because a lot of these horses well if you wanna buy the race you're gonna use the two three four six seven eight and i'm sure big budgets will buy this race yeah i would think so i think the yeah the the syndicate syndicate stuff like that yeah they'll they'll have all these horses covered in some way that's for sure i think it's wide open mike on a budget you you gotta narrow budget you could only used to do you just using your top two yeah you know i think so i mean i definitely want to use mr maybe on you know again he's he's one of those horses though you know what the pace of the raise it could work against and i definitely want to use him now i'm 'cause i like his last two races and i i did wanna get applicator on their tom izzo three for free i think wow just all right so on a budget three four and if a if you if you've got the the deep pockets i think you're buying it to make sure that you get through let's go to the second leg it's the first to be a turf sprint an were going six furlongs on the wide there these are either eighty thousand dollar a claim ers or a conditions and a three in ups that have never won ten thousand blah blah blah and nobody is in for the tag so we've got you know everybody fitting that they allow its condition and so this is a good group there's some there's some steak billers in here yeah this this there's a good field divorces seven ovum added fraternal there is a main track only on yeah listen i i think this might be one of the races where a lot of people especially the smaller budgets will go m v eight a move talkative offer chad brown on you know i'm just gonna sixty five on the morning line he just ran in eighty nine buyer and his stateside debut and 'em yeah i'm gonna sort of lean there because i want it you know spreading other races i can see it on you know we'll see what happened he wasn't a horse that i necessarily want the single but you know i don't see how you play there the sequence and you don't use them he hit his first start over here at gulfstream with the to turn mile off of a very long way off in a you know he got beat at they end on what it was close he was very headstrong in that race of pace was very slow on and he didn't have any excuses for crypto he got a good one but he was just very rank early in a race like he didn't wanna be rated as strongly as he was he made the league and he got run down at the end of the race but the horse ran down and see major is todd pletcher horses one three races in a row on that was his third a that was his third straight win i would i buyers or seems like he could be headed the right way 'em i dunno steve this horse he could obviously went on he he was affective sprinting as young horse in europe his he starts with two year old were all sprints a second third he wound up the end of the year a seven furlongs when you only make one start as a three year old so something happened to us ended up here i'm you know i'm using him in the pick six i'm not singling them on because i like a resource on the rail all systems go i'm definitely definitely wanna use disorders 'em he's the worst of all be buddy to win a car in that you wanna use him in the pick six he yeah his career debut sprinting on turf i thought was a really good after he won that race very easily on he came back in his second start in the bridgetown aqueducts they totally blew the breaker that race he ran a lot better than it looks on and then he was gone for almost a full year and he came up off the layoff fraternal the last time they random on dirt it almost feels like they were prepping them on he wound up down on the rail even behind me got shuffled out to the back of the pack around the turn and then he was you know racing onto the district i thought it was a perfect raise off the layoff and now he's back on turf and i just think this is good so i definitely wanna use him i could see maybe just using the morning eighty not at the races that easy but i could see just using those two horses this is a lot of my tickets a point here because you know they only other horses entrusted me at all were or lawn twist rubio who feels almost like last time was the time they happen but he's a good horse i'm not knocking him in don colonel tom the new york red who's running a couple of fast racism could make the leading here but they would be sort of my backup was speaking of a rubber foul cone how about the van him getting horses from the generosity oh and here's the good old discretionary mark a first time for him in the first time also about a six and a half months layoff yeah i mean listen he's awful i often hear like a couple of other horses are too but he's one of the greatest four four seven at belmont he's always right there he did you know he was really no match for colonel tom when they ran against each other at saratoga last summer but you know he finished a good second that day i could see the source spineless right i thought he wasn't a little tough year especially when you know bring the layoff into it but yeah listen i'm glad the cfl come getting horses per owners like that because he seems like the kind of guy could do really well for those guys and i'm he deserves the chance but you know he was a horse who i i wasn't that interested in this race on but he did something wrong that horse there's nothing wrong with a lot of arson and there's even a banana thief finance he might be looking to get out the saratoga 'em he he tentative on really well and shorter turf sprint they run up there but it was nothing wrong with his race off the layoff either rap music well it does feel like there's real pace jason here for the horses that are gonna come from off the pace and that includes banana fief who's you know who's richard is okay at at belmont and a banana thief at this point has had a really nice long extended a career with the clark brewster and a look forward to speaking of saratoga and people look forward to it look forward to seeing seeing clark leaning on the fence over by the racing office a look at it horses as they walked by that he could drop this lips on the claim a a horse had a busy year since last summer at saratoga he's been quite prominent in in the news for those of you the follow a celebrity lawyers hot so let's say let's say what the budget you wanna use the one in eight yeah they were the my main to win here you know like a backup with the two in the four but a very at the one i would try and get through without you got it let's go to the third leg mike beer with this one the racing form of course mile and a sixteenth year maybe flavors vert fifty thousand and it's really a classic scenario where you got some horses that have had their chances but then you've got a couple of lightly raced ones which is usually voted the way you lean a there's also a kind of an interesting pace scenario with a couple maybe maybe one horse in particular i i i don't know a i don't know whiskey is my wine maybe on the leader or is it hey i initiative you know some one of one of the other but yeah it feels like yeah this is my wife and i were saying you know based on the race he ran first time out you know and he's got be outside post so you know jose properties go out there but on yeah i think so i think you know you're idea with i initiative is probably a good one because when you watch his race is it feels like they almost half the go with him because he's not gonna be able to win on any other way and there's i don't know if he can win anyway he's you know he's got racism making a contender and here but you know last time and listen it was a little bit of a layoff you know and with a trainer change i don't know what happened last time he didn't really right all last time on where they took him back off the pace so i would think they gotta go forward with on because that's where all of his so called good races are he really hasn't run that well on too many times he just one of his worst who's had a chance is like even when he's been with the second and third in four of his a in his last four starts before the last one he would either second third but he didn't have any excuses in any of those races so it's not like he's on luckier anything he just he just happens and not be that good 'em a triple go along way for him in here on this is just another race steve where i feel like crypto gold is probably the right horse on who am i dropped him last time his first start at belmont he won but with disqualified and it was what would you do to i guess he did interfere with the worst coming they were both china split at the same old same time and he did he did bump that horse a buddy but he won that race if you want that race back you know i guess he's the worst be i i will just say about that raise the maiden forty last time he got aside from the little bumping he got a great closures trip in that race there were pace in front of the pace was contested and he got the right inside ronnie never lost any ground you came right through between arches anyone on you used in this race but that's the same rights the whiskey is my line would say viewing it this is my wine with the warriors who you sort of set the whole offer everybody i mean he went to the leading their the pace was legit andy he wasn't lucy had a horse right up there with him just sort of process the entire way never got a breather i feel like he ran really well in his debut on an i wanna use him on crypto gold and they they were gonna be my main to win here if i backed up maybe i would use daft the nine a claim for rudy last time he just got in a little bit to top diplomat he he he didn't he was never gonna win that race in run bad i thought he improved i could i'm doing a little bit better economic lane with a little bit of a class drop you i'm glad you mentioned daft end since you mentioned daft i'm gonna point out spindle top and i i want i want everybody to do with exercise that is what am i favored visual clues and indicators a particularly with with maidens and that is when you see lines and you see horses who suddenly not not necessarily suddenly but are moving closer and closer to the league and then even holding the league and you look at his last race and in florida in february where after his his first two starts in october and december at the end of a eighteen in the beginning in nineteen you know he basically was getting fitness this is karen mclaughlin he got the gotta start out of the way on dirt karen then made the decision okay he's a turf wars got the turf debut and stretched out to a mile kind of went around actually didn't lose any ground a late then in these last two start suddenly he's on or near the weed then he's got the league and when you get drawn arrow across the running lines where the ones and we're being in contact with speed is on display you can project that a horse is going to run very well and invariably when i see this it's a horse that i have to use or sometimes even you know really key off if the price is right when i see them showing speed and an increasing their ability to stay with the pace in almost always points to better things to come yeah that's very true absolutely right about that you always wanna take no enforces starting the show more speed yeah i mean this horse he he's probably getting to the right level to now dropping infer fifty is probably what this horse needs because i felt like his career his turf debut the first turf race at gulfstream i just you ran okay in that race he was sort of a no threat third but i actually felt like he ran okay in his last two starts on is good is that one but on he's starting to get to the right level now andy starting to show more speed on so yeah you're right that's a horse but you wanna definitely keep an eye in this race but it's not like nothing personal goals the favorite and he is gonna be the famous rates i north of not half of what he is you know he's okay but he does not have to win this race at a short price well the problem is the problem that you've got with him is a free starters we should also note there's a real chance that the the turf will be good or yielding tomorrow a given you know we don't know how much thunderstorm activity you're gonna get today so there may be some horses that are gonna get ground that that we haven't seen and in fact spindle top i just noting ran that race a in in midmay on good going so well and i on that but again you're looking at eight and the ten as the maine's you like the nine is a backup i'm gonna throw in the six as a backup as well and certainly the start the pick four second half of this pick six sequence you mentioned the main group here new york bread two year olds it say a it's a small group and a it say a kind of a fascinating fascinating a six pack of fires a you got by earned who got his first winter as a value in north america a at indiana the other day and then freud a cairo prince street boss on m c i think this might be one of the first emc's that that were seeing and justin fill up this is rudy rod making his second start who just got the kind of a swamp late an you know feels like a you know he's a major player and of course my engelhardt he's got that m c a this is the sequel a it's a home bred of sequels and a all guns blazing given my is reputation with first there's a hard not to start the conversation with all guns blazing yeah right 'em yeah you lie as first time starter you take very seriously that's for sure i take them off seriously um you see about this one emcee as you mentioned his you know relatively new 'em so we'll see how it all do i actually feel like we start in i've already starting to see some of them they can run a little bit 'em wherever it's worth over thirteen so far with a juvenile baby runners but that's you know to small sample the draw any conclusions from on the damn side of the the only other far this is mayor was also a sequel home bred jeremiah trained in was a debut winner a that was on older horse on turf that hosting debuts a two year old 'em at the only starts so far it's been on turf but he did win as the first time starter m you see i think it's the kind of horse in this field i would be using because you know the horses that have run there okay i thought just envision outside rooting the rail rudy i thought the of adjusting vision you know ram pretty well first time out i mean that was a pretty fast pace he out ran a couple of horses to delete including a very heavy favorite from pleasures bond he just outweigh on that horse of the fought on an you could tell by the time they got the mid stretch on just division wasn't gonna make it to the finish she was tired he was on his long we'd end he was just looking for somewhere to lay down and the one two finishers came running from the back of the pack they were last the next to last and they came running from the back and they and they ran down lady all things considered he actually went pretty well on that on so i liked him on my definitely wanna use them but i you know i gotta use dangle her first or i i'm a little more conflicted about us all breaker who 'em they paid a horn twenty thousand four as a wing 'em it's robert penta and jonathan thomas you know the connections over there for this horse i dunno steve sleep well he's he's a really good fire it's it's sort of interesting to look up street boss because he's he's a really a really good sire 'em he was a nineteen percent of a juvenile debut runners which i was a little surprised when i look that up but he he's he's really good with horses like the the dancers pedigrees ashley a lot of there's a lot of good horses under here the basketball from the band with a tear force a wild about harry who won four times all i'm sure if it was a baby winter 'em near the dam was debut winter sucking bama's debut winter there's a lot of coffee in the pedigree on the morning line favorite sources thomas doesn't have great numbers with horses with his two year old first time starters on dirt but i don't maybe try and find a way to include the source to i dunno i thought about this very topic would be one for me where i would figure out the rest of my ticket first and then just come back and try and figure out how many i needed to you is how many i could afford fair enough that that that's a reasonable approach because there may be a little bit as we get to be in the last like i think there might be a horse the stand west a deed nominal a feature tomorrow is a state bread a philly a in maryland what's first level going six a on the wider and a dm ceo's you got two of them so adding entry a so were looking at what eight the betting interests right yeah this is one of those races where you know talking about horses who have had their chances and you know it just it there are a lot of horses in here who are just really hard the take not it they would you know not you fall over if they wound up winning but they would just be harder take i like horses on me outside on i didn't find it necessarily that easy to narrow it down but maybe you know for me anyway to eight and one backup on i like a lengthy a eight m who i just thought was really interested in this race because as a two year old a first of all this horse debuted very early last year at belmont and got that for charlie baker's 'em they this horse took a ton of money jones speed and then just totally stopped in the stretch and as it turns out when you start watching her go on 'em last year you know she just she can't stand up on faster she doesn't run at all and faster and unfortunately for her charlie baker tried to get her on turf at saratoga when politicians rain last summer and he couldn't get a turf florida go 'em she did went on this in the in the slop angie came back off the layoff with a trainer changed using a tool like claimer at laurel bird turf they do that's what baker wanna deal with sprint around the grass and she added in that race you won that race very cheap raise she wasn't very easily 'em and now she's back here on for the next hour in new york spray on the grass 'em i think the sources gonna be very tough in this race on so i'm gonna use her and i think jaded lady 'em for from my a makes a lotta sense in this race you know if you wonder if they deal with saratoga they tried to stakes were there at the end of the year she's not that kind of horse in you you know she came off the last going seven furlongs i just think that there's a little too far for her and she wound up contesting the pace and you know she just i thought you overall she ran okay it wasn't a great performance for her but it was a step in the right direction as far as figures go and now she gets go sex and i just i feel like she might be the horse it'd be so eight and ten 'em i'll use eighty lady on you know she's the morning line favorite she's already lost twice says the favorite in her first to start spreading on turf in when terrible either time on but you know i don't know how many more chance you wanna give a horse like her i i would rather backup you're seeking win but i prefer the gate in the county fair enough a couple of nibble errors in in it's kind of interesting types a given given the fact that that he seems to be it's turned into a fulltime a turf the assassin tom albert tranny a it's a keeper a you know who broke the maiden what to back in the even improved despite you know what looks like a moderate effort last time a but a it's it's a keeper a kind of a knockout you know type of all wars an how do you not respect the quest that even though you know it's not a not a mayor the that wins a often but you know very frequently he shows up and is is you know stylistically could be dangerous if if forties i mean you you put around or tease on on quest that a a i think she's a little dangerous said at eight to one yeah the rider change is certainly a little interesting i listen she's got figures that that really maker dangerous in this race so i don't think he does want to dismiss the right hand on i'm i'm not a big fan of hers i've obviously he's been around forever i've seen her on plenty of times i wonder if she's really on you know the kind of horse you know that one ex new york bread kind of horse i i don't know that she has i think he's probably a little cheaper the mess on put you know she's got figures that makes sense and i read taken amount could turn your head i'm more interested in any other option it's a keeper you know she's got she has to improve at some point on even though she won a off that little layoff in may it's not like you took a big step forward in that race she just got this perfect trip and then made the league and all through the stretch it looked like you were gonna get run down and she just kept holding on i wasn't something furlong right so i'm now she's back the six i do think six is the better distance for her you know last time you know what can you say she yeah she just i thought you meant okay in that race but again another race where she didn't really take a step forward 'em at some point she's gotta take a step forward if you're gonna get through this condition they're gonna be hard for her to win her one a condition new york right if she's gonna be running mid fifty buyers fair enough a couple of notable elements to this a this is the worst that that robert messy yellow and tom albert tranny read an v v unfortunate deal faded brilliant speed mrs weather's nice dinah former andy tom obviously got a few seasons andy here she is a you know a three year old i think i've kind of interesting fighters key is a horse it alber tranny trained if you remember a time out attorney train finders key for mass yellow and so this is a a nice a nice hybrid story and i don't know this feels like a horse that has got upside and the given given the given the brilliance speed in that nobody's really gonna know much because of his abbreviated be aided stallion career and i i i think there's a chance at this horse keeps getting better and having broken through you know in may with the returned a grass i i think she's a little sneaky in and and dangerous i need to check the what do we looking at pricewise twelve to one that's me yeah she's like alright so will call for you will call me eight and attended hey the nine of b and let's agree that the the five is a see how about that yeah they had five her sure yeah that's when you wanna keep an open mind to you could afford it for sure well against the nightcap the state bread maiden forties back to the inner turf we go a on me lawn and a quite a few of these have had every opportunity to win and it just feels like you wanna lean toward you know somebody that that is is under exposed as opposed over exposed right right that's that's exactly exactly how i looked at it a you know you have a class droppers that you just you know obviously wanna take a look at first because you know multiple sources have it's been you know knocking around around this level forever and they're just not very good on the first of all did you come across the number three fusi i don't know steve i mean they do the pet national in an open made in ways finished i thought okay third the fifty eight by pulitzer there you know and i thought she ran fight i thought it was a little interesting that they're gonna come seventy your credit they viewed out of town so they come to new york with their now and off of a decent third in a computer bay deals are gonna wonder if the forty not gonna even try and get into a state red meat and special whether it's just see what happens 'em she's one of those horses that i could use you know for sure i didn't love her but i could user against this field i've gone gone gone both the promise she made a lot of sense actually felt like a protest idea what's good on that wasn't april awful layoffs she was third to zippy who's a really nice horse 'em and i thought this ran okay was never gonna win that race but ran okay it'd be third and then just they tried seven last time time you know she was nowhere again but fetching 'em with a coffee first hurdle actually ran well and they came out of that race well again in allowance race with a seventy two buyer so this was dropping makes a lotta sense on the horse i was most interested in at a at a price 'em but i'm gonna using this race is a maker source 'em cosby outside in here just because it's an interesting think this horse debut going long at gulfstream 'em a year ago and just didn't really run that well on the name is that he's never ready but a long layoff after that raise comes back sprinting this condition and just if you watch the replay that raise just really didn't have any chance at all it felt like she needed the race anyway and then you know wound up back off the pace and you could see the winter came in the stretch or tease out or over behind horses she couldn't ron she wound up taking a stumble at the top of the stretch because she had no room and then she was this block the rest of the way i mean i i just i feel like that ronnie in line is very deceptive for her last race and she might actually we'd be ready to take a step forward against the feel like this it's not gonna take much for her to be able to contend with these horses so i was very interested in in her at a price especially because she just doesn't look like anything on paper i'm definitely gonna use or and you know maybe if you wanna add one more you're cutting include miss that pat per the doctor who without the layoff last time in the level in here man find interesting about that rises on this wars broke really sharply from the gate so you might see those words get a lot more involved defined a source was super sharp from the gate last time on but the space with a little fast so frankly i think did the right thing in and tried to raider and then she ran find any second now you might be the first a little bit more forward this time yeah i can't i can't add anything a clever a firm that you know after that i i'm trying to look at a pace the scenarios and who you know who might somehow ended up you know 'cause they're they're really there aren't a lot of parties interested in the front endear it's true that the other thing about this race tickets all the sort of logical fickle if you're just looking like the class drivers are the ones who have actually run well they don't real they're not really speed or so so yeah that could complicate things a little bit you know you wind up in a race with a you know a big long shot out there on the leading you know who knows what's gonna happen from but i was just hoping that that maker horse you know maybe they just won't have any speed at all but had a little seed in his debut that wasn't you know trout obviously the forward in that race i wonder if that was the brakes a little bit this time second half and get this alternative like okay we got a couple of a we do have a couple of names in here a jock wise that i wanna harry hernandez who what a race for us a while ago i i like harry hernandez a i you know we typically see him at a at a finger lakes and he's been he's been riding in jersey in and a new york here and there and over the winter end how about who is this who who's helped me with a i got a call a i gotta call my my pal john discuss what do we know about this a human hockey hockey yeah he's yeah he's just relatively new here he won a couple of races the last a couple of weeks ago he's not he's not betty you're obviously he's new on the circuit he's not writing you know a bunch of big name horses seven pound bug but there's there's nothing wrong with having i mean he's actually some really good arrive good all right well then i i could i could seven pounds always attracted we've we've we've got a we've got are are new york read the phillies we've got just a minute mouse it if we raise the stay on the grass maybe it will give hark you will hearkens a hard line that it wasn't he's riding a horse could potentially be he's gonna get the league she's gonna get the leading like seattle is absolutely when i'm in the form of obviously you have to be concerned about her overall foreign but there'll be no as year assan well she's over fifteen you've also got that very knowing you've gone wild there isn't anybody listening please pick sixes that hasn't used you've gone wild on a ticket along the way and and and you know just wanted to one of the dow jar eyes out after using why would i waste a mall bridal on this source 'cause you don't see it at some point at some point she's gonna win a race is over twenty now i i like you know you're right about that gives you know she is and she almost did last time and i i feel like that a lot about a lot of by rodriguez you below sources anyway whenever i see him i'm like i don't care if that horse of the big prize i i might have to try and find a way to get that like on that there is one first there to the we should at least make people aware of angels in a superpac quick and back working with a first or yeah i bet you know that's very true pack looks at north of the flight to but yet packs of i think he's a very underrated trainer and he got a car most aride those who are you know that's another otherwise i mean this doesn't have much to win this race i mean who knows if if she can run but she doesn't have much to win this race this is not an easy way the ended that's for sure i mean i think when you start when you look at this race you feel like there's only you know they're bunch of horse but they've had there's only a couple of ways yeah you really going here but the more you look at this right yeah the trick here i think at the con well don't over think it so let's let's potentially a give everybody a simple approach with mike's analysis this a two by two by two by two by three by maybe three or two so the three four wip the one eight would be eight ten what the six seven eight nine ten or eight ten if you just wanna go to deepen the seven and then the three sex with or without the ten so a either a you could get away here that would be a the chip to ninety it would be a hundred ninety two dollar ticket ticket if you went to buy two by two by two by three by to a or if you if you went and if you added the the the third horse a you know you would kick it up obviously but nine eighteen thirty six seventy two one forty for that'd be a two eighty eight ticket yeah what am i i know you try not to go go to crazy weather but of course if you could get partners you can obviously i mean i think you obviously wanna if you can you know sort of split up here and try and press you're you're stronger opinions that's usually the smartest way to do it but listen if you can't if you don't have time to do it that way if you just want a foot went in and grab a body in a split second guessing you gotta play this thing there's too much money in the pool exactly what do you think by the way what do you think the pool that i you know i i don't know i'm terrible and stuff like that but what if the kerry was five hundred thousand right i mean isn't it yeah i mean there i mean this thing's gonna be huge i mean i don't even what what is the biggest do we know what the biggest part has been 'cause we've had some big ones in the last year so i mean what is the biggest what's the biggest pick six pullback i don't even i don't even know in new york we gotta have yeah the bigger you mean like the biggest carryover about don't yet know the avenue a sign from carry over now but this is one of the biggest carry over mouth but what's the biggest they've got it up to into a big carry over i mean we need andy we need any of these yeah i mean but this is gonna be right up there with that i mean this is this is a huge harry over well having it on wednesday after two days off that helps people have forgotten about that yeah they get there sneak into their kids room in and steal money in and out of the they gathered are falling well at of course they were gathering the belongings i don't have to move up but state i love you're already a by a you're coming up right for the the summer yeah that'll be out there for the meat i'll be up there another day or two before i guess and i'll be in there for the long haul well we're looking forward to it and the senate will have to make you a will have to make you wait they sunday visitor loose on the league that yeah definitely i'll be out there for sure reach anytime there's well because you know if you if you've ever watched us but a you know it's basically it's basically sixty minute opportunity to make fun of seth that pets essentially a show and then it except right and i love that absolutely even higher i've even got george weaver before his annual visit the joy even george now a new york knicks got oh yeah absolutely hokey pokey find it said that the face of go tv absolutely my beer thank you buddy i appreciate it i thought they could lock them you to buy beer everybody and you should be following my guy who's got it's really a a great approach and he comes at it from different angles and the not afraid to 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headline of the weekend which is just really eight eight outlandish and a just a head shaking a banning of a one of the one of the top a horseman in not just california history but it in in the game's history jerry holland offer a buffer seemingly a purchase a set of reasons that that haven't been stated a base it leaves been left out there dangle like a pin yada allen what what is going on here legally and the terms of horsemen's rights and racetrack having freehand do whatever they want well first of all we we don't know the reason why he was banned by the stronach group and i suspect we probably will never know 'em the laws as is fairly settled in this area that racetracks had make common law right to exclude whomever they want from their property since it's private property so wrong disney exclusion it's not for a violation of a person's civil rights and that's been historically the case it's been tested many times and it is he would call the majority of view in me a bunch of her legs to horse racing sing and racetracks and the exclusion making exclude anyone no there there are exceptions 'em and what we've seen some developing exceptions particularly as it relates to a race tracks come casinos and the regulatory environment become somewhat different in some states that permit casinos give song casino workers the whites hearings before they lose their jobs are excluded because they are licensees an at least you argument that has been made in horse racing is that it's one thing to exclude a patron for whatever reason but you when you have someone who is licensed by regulatory authority and they're not violating the what we call the rules of racing then attract should should not be permitted to exclude that individual there is at least at least one state west virginia that requires eight race track to give the hearing to eight licensee who the track desires to ban in or exclude in that hearing goes to the racing commission in the racing commission kid over all the racetrack but that's a statutory requirement in the courts have found that a is that if the legislature in that state axe to void the common all right it has the ability to do so if i'm not mistaken pennsylvania in when they when they legalize slot machines in shots at the racetrack also included a similar publishing in their in their straight framework but separate and apart from that and i i'm not a california lawyers so i'm not prepared to argue what's legal or not legal in california but a mean generally speaking a the stronach group is acting within their rights whether we think that's right longer different day that she she's exercise right of exclusion and they're not likely together reasoning typically in these situations you don't give a reason because you don't wanna create an environment where they may be subject to litigation because of the recent makes sense a the question becomes a of course a in terms of arbitrary and and potentially arbitrary how how you know everyone else views this and of course the damage a of not providing aid specific a sighting any specific concerns i mean just just having for horses and to golden gate having six horses since the start of both meets a end up dying in how how is how is that i mean it is is that enough in your mind allen it's just a dismissive of a trainer that sends out as many horses in his training as many horses i'm gonna i'll have numbers by the end of the day specifically of how many starts as we know how many starts of also how many workouts a hundred or so horses holland or four trains a because based on on some projections it it appears that he is had between starts at works as many is three thousand a combined which given the two per thousand figures industry is is basically works where in terms of a star fatalities starts it six injuries or fatalities would be pretty much expected statistically from a guy that has this many horses well you know you have detroit carefully here i mean i just caviar i've been criticized by some in california for some of the public statements i've made in the press related to what's been going on out there and to some extent maybe that's fair we were were apple operating in a vacuum we we had very little in the way of facts relating to a thirty fatalities that occurred in california 'em i look back at the report that we did in new york where we very meticulously described each of the horses who suffered a fatal breakdown and all the circumstances surrounding medication practices trading practices and the like and you know decisions were made they've stolen information that have been developed in here were all operating raul operating in a vacuum and that makes it very difficult civil dealing with their but many people believed to be knee jerk reactions to to what is going one 'em and you look jerry hollandsworth or was who's barred today after a cnn that's been said which suggests that holland worker was an aberration a and nobody's doing anything about it i mean the guy goes from being the most highly rated one of the most highly respected trainers in california highly respected across the country to a pariah in twenty four hours and the more you you know you're you're you scratch your head about it and i think what bothers the people who have been contacting tracting men of course moxham lit up and others that is that it continues to perpetuate this narrative but these breakdowns were clause by corrupt trainers and the owners who were not interested in industry industry were for men who are willing to do anything to take this industry down it is it really is a it's a canard it's unfair but it's in our marriage it's been perpetuated and there is continuing deflection in this direction and from a while there are many factors because these breakdowns a you know listen something changed at santa anita this year when you see a change it's a red flag we learned that when we get are investigation work in that focus needs to be one what we different what changed a causal this in in finally they've had all these initiatives in place for well over two months including increased initiatives and yet horses continue to break down doesn't that raise red flags as to you know what's what really is going on here so yeah you bring you bring in you bring in another element of this allen that i'd i'd love for you to address which is they they owner recourse end these five person you wanna talk again arbitrary no reasons these v five person review panel a that is deciding now who gets to pass the tree box a an even more distressing a who gets removed once at trees have been taken andy thee the one of the biggest embarrassments here is is t o c and the cpt who have clearly a rolled over a are not representing the the two entities they're supposed to be representing a beacon certainly the tlc i mean i haven't heard one teeth with horses just some early yanked out of races including the dishes who had thee for the five favorite in the middle layer on sunday a and and you know the the quote the abundance of caution of caution it they don't it doesn't appear that the track themselves have any confidence in these these layers of of protections is that they've created a yeah that that's one concern now we're gonna shift the scene the low south end to del mar end a this five person authority is gonna decide the trees at that these facilities what what's the owners writes in here end at who's supposed to be standing up for them well steve i think you have to take into consideration and lee environment in california right now which is unlike anywhere else in the country but certainly is something that we all have to pay attention to they have a state government that is breathing down their backs and they are threatened by potential ballot initiatives that could threaten the viability in future of horse racing in california we all understand that which is why it is so important that we get the facts and they make evidence based decisions based on those facts i am a big believer in that and i think that the results in the mid atlantic particularly new york i mean people really ought take a close look at what's going on in new york because we work implement it evidence based reforms of our analysis that have led to new york having the lowest breakdown rate in its history if not in the country and they're not doing anything terribly different than the rest of the mid atlantic and maybe california has been doing something different but it works and so there at this point i think they're scrambling to try to limit the damage and to make came industry until they can get a sense of stability in show you're gonna see me these kinds of reactions or else you know they face the prospect the state government shutting down a so i understand it 'em i just looked forward to some reports court some information coming out that is gonna help the answer questions because all you have right now questions you don't have answers and lots of flurries what a what what do you expect and what have you heard in in conversation with the breeders cup and what the what what is the right thing to do and what do you think will happen when they get together later this week courtesy run i look i i a it's it's an extraordinarily difficult decision for breeders cup of a by the debate is very public debate now out whether the viability and future of california racing who's threat the breeders cup don't you show up vote of confidence in california racing california insurance reclaiming the truck surfaces save that they've got the best ones in the world and that the industry needs to stand behind california racing there are others who say that you put industry in turlock you go out there without having the answers to the questions have been raised without seeing what investigation show and that the sacred more prudent thing to do would be churchill m i am i perked bearing rumors about what the breeders cup boards gonna do i don't think anybody knows what they're gonna do they'll they'll have their meeting i guess it's thursday and they'll make what they think is the best decision they can a i just hope that whatever happens going forward that evidence based decisions are made in this narrative reformist versus corrupt trainers and the owners and drug portions going to a working out a all all the different numbers there after the just needs to you know we just need answers at this point will learn and not scapegoats and that's that's it's quite frankly i look i again we we don't have the facts in california i applaud myra where you know a a honoring their agreement with jury home to offer a and there is no more meticulous program sake you offer a program that in new york under the direction of scott palmer it looks terrific a do the results show it and a week you hear about how great things were in california people wanna take a look at the mid atlantic and the mid atlantic strategic planning and the things that we are doing it will continue to do a to ensure the safety of all of our horses because it's a far different story than what is going on at santa anita well you know we we know from us come some conversations a during belmont day actually add that every attempt that and i completely understand every attempt is gonna be made to the ron at at santa anita and a can't i i completely understand a and there's there's plenty of reasons to just stay i added i don't think it's concern even necessarily just over the you know the the two days the concern is you you are dealing with an unknown factor september october after the summer after the summer session at at del mar when racing returns turns and you that's unknown it's not you know it's not concerned about the safety during the two days it it it is that you know toxic atmosphere so that will just with play that you know play that ball where where where it lands a couple of other let's shift gears allen we've got about ten minutes and a couple of topics will stay with localities for a minute a there wasn't attempt in the new york legislature to help thee equine practitioners that a are are you know non veterinary staff a dying volts of course the the personality specifically specifically involved in this a what's the latest because i saw where a at the eleventh hour when it looked like there was a resolution a some things some things kind of unraveled welby at the department of education new york objected to the legislation they continue the claim that 'em the practice of acquiring therapy is reserved for a veterinarian in that techs and should should not be permitted to be performed by lay people off as i said when i've been on your show in the past 'em it's the same position they took with respect echoing dentistry and we work appellate courts unanimously overall the department of education and we continue the take that position but so long as they objected legislatively 'em we ran into a little blocking the legislature that they would not meet the bill having said that we are in conversations with the department department of education in hopes that we can resolve the matter with into their satisfaction in the are satisfaction and a guy i won't say i'm optimistic or i'm not optimistic but a and over the next week or so there will be conversations and our hope is gonna continue to push to get this resolved without having to litigate without having to go back to the legislature and hopefully to get this done in time forty opening up the saratoga meat so the conversations are continuing and will continue to do we need the do including if necessary 'em follow suit to a challenge the decision at the department of education says well this is a this is just bury our dream dragged on a bed now i do but it does appear at least that a the potential for a resolution is it's close so i was watching were in discussion with them and a let's see where it goes let's get enough paid out too well where together on a cause cause i'm off next week i i will have time ahead of the delaware stopped but the match series a round three heads the delaware a week from is it a week from saturday i'm losing track of time yeah firm that you know which saturday the thirteenth the thirteenth america right now robert look the series is gonna start to take shape 'em at delaware park we had a very successful opening at laurel we then moved to a national had terrific j m a number of the horses that ran at laurel did not run at ten a in the qualify for the bonus money a and continuing the series of course that's the competing three of the five a max series of events so a dental apart becomes number three we've got eight horses that will qualify for bonus money by running at delaware park if they choose to do so we have a large number of horses who rented obviously at laurel did not run at delaware now will meet the start get serious if they stay in the series so it it it's it's early in the series on bondage should start to take shape so we've we've got some terrific courses in testing me at last year's winner mci a we've got done i misspoke his point very well known john service worst a quote arrogance hours completed pass a hint smith with enchanted ghost and my trunk that it was super striking those with the horses that are on the verge of qualifying offer but these divisions are all very tight end m a i think we'll start to see whether the change to the five big event days on which the right decision to make sure seemed like it after the first you know after the first two rounds and a you know after after delaware a you got the mom sc yet and will go to a world class one labor day hearts and then violence finished yet will finish at moments you know it's interesting we we really got a lot of tremendous feedback for going to this five day bigger than day series rather than we've done in the past 'em i guess what i'm having a hard time getting orange crush the fact that match would move around throughout the summer so there were constantly discussion about match a when you've got these six week breaks or whatever ten people tend to forget it got it got again we focused on it and a and now they're not like nascar which could run every week through the entire summer early fall we we got it at fox championship but then they show it's gonna be interesting when we finished mission look back gob what the reaction has been to the series like you know what we've done everything's just been so positive it really got the handles been great field sizes had been good competitions been great but it'll be interesting applicants series starts to take take one welfare those that i wanna keep tracking and a see everything that's involved match series dot com and a little look at the fields that'll be opening week at saratoga so we don't want it to get lost in the shuffle a an allen one one thing that pops in my head that i i have not the discussed scott publicly this week or last week what had happened a after d c h r b meeting what did the ramifications of of the california a administrators of pulling out of rc oh i'm not sure what's driving that a you know i'm not sure that's personalities were 'em i all i know is what i reid and they say that it's frustration that rc i it's not moving quickly enough to enact a the reforms did they have an acted on not so sure what they would expect 'em rc i do bar mtc has been dealing with some of these and if the criticism as it takes orange to see an rc i too long to do this you know i maybe there's a way to fix that if we were dealing with the federal body they they had the same problem because the government bill sets up almost identical mechanism so i think that everybody is frustrated right now 'em industry is very tribal were all crush created were all dealing with this terrible situation situation at cnn nita and the implications that it has farrar industry it's very hard to get everybody in the room to talk about it and and and try to focus when a some serious evidence based reforms that needs to be done i will tell you that there are similar forms the dan suggested in california that we all take a serious look at what we need to move quickly to enacting we will 'em what's been frustrating in the past is that the one seed in the slowest to enact reforms are california but it's been very difficult to get the california horse racing board members apple a multiple of medication violation program they still have an accident in california and it's been three years it took them two and three years to adopt third party lasix administration and making blamed in one of the worst minute they can't blame it on the air inch but there were regulatory body and just is moving very strongly here under the you know the the pressure from these fatalities which taking them so long to get these reforms done so it's it's a mixed bag 'em i i'm hoping the situation can be resolved because it doesn't do anybody any good pretty scripts splinter a you know i it just plays into the hands of a from those who have been different agenda and oh by the way for those who were arguing that if we had the federal bill that these breakdowns wouldn't have happened then we would solve all of racing sales just get the federal bill passed but that that will go and been inactive two years ago a year ago made it syllabi age difference what happened at shannon you know and that a i it's funny you couch it in that term because i i see stuff i see comments and and this is why we need as this all that anybody that says that this is why we need a this legislation they they haven't really read do or have any understanding of what this is and what what the elements of of the administration of the sport it would it would be involved in they they think somehow this is something that it is is a legal office or or a commissioner and i i'm i'm actually amazed at how much exposure there's been allen is actually about how little people pay attention that also includes people citing frank stronach as the source of these problems when he hasn't been involved in the management of the company in three years yeah it's outlook 'em 'em again there is just tremendous frustration in the industry but there is a path i mean i i as someone who lives this has been a part of it a new you work there is a path and there is a way forward and if we could just get everyone to understand what that path is committed to do it i think the results speak for themselves i don't believe either in the animal rights people but we we are going to eliminate aches fatalities completely boy that's a great goal in today's world people just don't understand it these horses are gonna break down we're gonna have this but i don't think there's anybody who would say we you need to do better you can always do better i mean i'm i'm trumpeting success in the mid atlantic but boy we could do better and we all seriously working to make that happen and dumb i can continue do that and that's my focus quite frankly is gonna be the mid atlantic because that's where it's happening that's where we're seeing success there is a total commitment from the tracks the regulators the worst in the veterinarians to make this better and it's that's why it's just so great great working in the mid atlantic region because of the commitment is there there's no scapegoating there's no fingerpointing it's what do we do to make this better and on that topic guy so those that are following follow tha racing a if you what thoroughbred horse ms association and alan foreman and a tumble america and the team and a talent is always a lightning and invaluable thank you thanks will soon saratoga saratoga hopefully delaware park on july thirteenth that'd be great allen form and everybody match and so much more i can always just like throw anything at allen he hits any kind of pitch curve balls knuckles not colors the slider doesn't matter 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Part 3:Brian Sanfratello, Nick Tammaro

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Part 3:Brian Sanfratello, Nick Tammaro

"Race until the jockey club gold cup. And that was when albert degrade wired the field and albuquerque was a very very good horse very. I think under a pre under appreciated horse. I think the three year old that year in two thousand were better from top to bottom Food safety pegasus aside. And so that was you know. There's no surprise by the year. The end of the year that they had caught up to the be elders if not surpass them a bit was was there. Was there a stranger. Breeders cup classic. Then that ninety nine that kathy wins at twenty one. No definitely not in fact. I remember that breeders cup was you know i. It was the first time the phillies turf was run and And it was actually the closest. Christopher lamont has come to winning a race he lost of course to Twelve to the jimmy toner name. I can't remember right now. Soaring softly And then you know there were some other really big horry chevette fan so i was pleased with our tax and beautiful pleasure and day seemed like it was making so much. Then you had one good horse after another winning unease was the only upset and then that was by far and away. I think. I mean i think in a way probably vote. Pony are kong obviously is the gold standard. But we'll tony was somewhat shocking. Breeders cup winner but cats each given the way he had run in a couple of races leading into that breeders cup with improbable a winter. As i think you might have tried. I agree and and for those that. If you wanna see a chart i that was just astounding. Kathy wins by like that. A quarter at nineteen sixty two one. Bud royal was second For ted west at twenty six fifty one golden missile was third at seventy five to one and chester house was fourth at sixty three to one. After a bad start to and came flying and the dollar super it was listed as six hundred ninety. Two thousand a the try. The two dollar try was thirty. Nine thousand it was. Let me tell you if anybody out there. Hit my hats off to him. That was That was absolutely insane. I i mean and the execution of course was that either. Lemon drop kid or barons. We're gonna run well river teen. I think was pretty fancied after winning equipped gold cup and they were just all shows. Chesser house was first time. First time dirt. First time in america yes. He ended up going on to win the arlington million the next year. And you know turned out to be a perfectly fine. Tur- wars there was no expectation is going to be able to run on dirt so crazy crazy crazy resolve and and i think that no big part of it was inside on that track that day good. Yes and that's certainly helped these along didn't necessarily help anybody who finished underneath them but it definitely carry cash run beautiful pleasure our tax to an extent but boy what would we give that old gulfstream oval and great back in the backyard. Well ninety nine that breeders cup also marks Memorable from mike cohen down. My i live experience as part of carolina. Barbecue was came at came at that. Breeders go so that was good they we're talking we we should. We be brought up ninety nine because yesterday was the twenty first anniversary of the pilot episode of the sopranos. How well you never know you never know what whacking this is going to invade the conversation. Good job i love nick. I wanted i wanted you. I reached out because the three the three multi race sequences that had force outs. Friday and saturday Friday night turf way. We talked about actually with ed and They had the pick five races one through five and that was a forty seven hundred dollar result with a six joyce a favorite a seventh choice a favourite an second choice seventeen sixty four forty four hundred forty perr utes just boots home prices and then four sixty nine forty and so if you were able to find you know the to tricky horses to find in that sequence but it was really Saturday and did back to back in the afternoon. The gulfstream sequence and then the sam houston The last of the jackpot space city six and two very good starting Nights for sam. Houston two and a half million. Both friday and saturday Let's let's touch on on these sequences neck. I dunno where if you wanna do. Sam houston or or the gulfstream action but You know gulfstream paid fourteen thousand six hundred had over five million bed into it and the this was very reachable. It was a little bit of a ticket building. Exercise by this was eminently hit Third choice second choice. Fifth choice third choice favorite and second choice and it paid fourteen six. Yeah yeah you know. And i think that i think one of the keys to it is that you you can't alter your approach from the way you would normally approach a different type of wager or you know if you're an old two dollars pick six player. How differently should you approach putting together a play and twenty cent pool on force out day and i think that the the key to it of course i mean at the end of every exercise in betting. You're going to be dealing with making sure that you assign the right The right weight and options to horses that you like. Obviously you need to make the right age. And he sees if. That's what you do if you're a caveman ticket player you do wanna find whomever in the sequence you really want to back up in terms of A backup accentuate In terms of who. You might wanna play again. I know people who like to play multiple caveman tickets where they might have a single in certain leg and build around that and maybe a couple of tickets a with that runner singled and different horses at different levels races around. So you know. I think that the the sixth leg of it of course if regularly i mean i'm regularly pick five player. The sixth leg of it often can add a little bit of. I wouldn't wanna say chaos obviously depends on the sequence but if forces you to be as as precise as possible with assigning who. You like how you're going to use them and you don't wanna find yourself simply saying oh well you know it's a twenty cent vets can use as many as i'd like and that sequence of gulfstream on saturday started with afford a one shot I think the third choice in ordinal bedding. And you know you're talking about bring by teeth for a high percentage barn sprint on the turf. Very obvious source coming down from belmont. Henny penny who had competed well in new york in the past and was taking a class drop and and then you had a somewhat similar words in the second leg which who was the second choice made a lot of sense these horses that were going to be pretty much. Everybody's tickets and then you get to a horse like citrus burs to ten to one and this is one where you probably needed to be a little bit more aggressive In order to find a bad horse. But you know if you if you had used a and the other problem i was. There was a three to two like. She made a lot of sense. So that was the concern Because really what these boil down to. How much are you taking the favourite. How much you taking other options. How deeper you going. And if the first four legs of the sequence lack the favorite and you had two of them beaten that under two one that you got to the tropical turf where the favorite ended up winning but know the three choices were basically all that you about the same level and they went up between two and three to one. So you didn't really get a break anywhere where you could say okay. There's of course that. I really wanna really wanna sink my teeth into and and us quite a bit and so you know the seven to two winner in the nightcap ended up getting the fourteen thousand that you said and really we're talking about sequence that had one horse that was maybe a little bit of a of an outside the box type and we're talking about a ten to one thirty two one shot or anything like that so it really looking at both of them together Looking at looking at tim houston next. The gulfstream one was. It was a lot of sensible and logical horses that you could easily have had. You could easily have used every one of them. If you're kind of an abc tickets structure believer But not had them on the right thing ticket because that was. That's where you have to balance out the backups. With the main exactly and that. That's what got tricky. And i and it's funny the horse the horse for me that That it was actually two different places. Where we're using this for me. Was the pick five. Pick six i. I simply didn't spend enough. I had all the horses identify. That wasn't the issue But the In the six races three of the winters were on my pecking. Order were fourth choices and there are circumstances where you might be able to craft a play that you know that that has that many fourth choices on the same ticket. But you know that that's it's like a billiard shot citrus burst. It was a horse. That i i really especially at the at the morning line price. I thought you know. Here's a horse that that has got the ability to win here. And i made I made him a and that decision ends up costing the pick five and the pick five eight four thousand. And i hit the hit the pick for nick for seven hundred dollars and and i'm glad and it made the day worthwhile but i mean a forty two hundred for that pick five at the. Have everybody easily identified. And i i you know i just i really was kicking myself and one at and that includes a backup ticket. Where at one point. I had had a comet as my second choice behind kasa creed and shunted him back You know in the in the pecking order. And that you know either him or citrus burst needed to be a and Instead of a c one or the other and in fact if they're both you know if i somehow get them both the right in terms of preference Hit the thing twice you know. Suddenly it's eight thousand. I mean i these are you know these are. You can assuage yourself by saying well i hit the you know you got six hundred and change and you paid for the day but now that doesn't not not when you leave not when you leave forty two hundred on the table when you absolutely you know had all the is dotted t.'s. Crossed the in. You just didn't follow through. Yeah i think the best thing. I could say to describe that was i remember sitting with tommy masses at a contest at gulfstream and i it hit a trip back the and i said boy if the four course of gotten third this thing would have paid so much more but i guess i can't complain because at least i hit and he said nonsense. I'm a pig. I want it all what you ask. You gotta figure out exactly right. I mean it's it's a you said to me. That's the losers mccallum. So that's that's of course. Tommy exaggerating pat. But you know we. We all know why he's good at that period and it is because we want to figure out how to get all of it. I mean it's nice to hit a pick four and make a profit and you know but we all wanna we wanna find a way to to hone our skills and fine tune the way we're putting our tickets together so that we can hit something bigger. You know why why hit four when you can hit a pick five and you know one of the things that i guess one of the things that's made me slightly better. Pick five player. I'm not particularly cooks later. I just have no background with it. At all. And i think these source outs tend to be They tend to be bad examples. They're they're really dangerous way of trying to make yourself a better. Pick six player because you are. You're swimming with sharks and you're also generally dealing with big fields competitive rates and things like that so structuring tickets and pick sixes can be very very difficult but I think one of the things that makes you a better pick five players when you write your numbers down and you take a look at what you wanna do the sequence you have to look back and make sure that you're you're doing the right thing in terms of approaching what could become chaotic you know. Do you have something clever on your tickets. If you don't and you feel confident in it then you need to bet your ticket for more right. I mean if you're generally that are one dollars player and you feel like there might be an opportunity for you to go to buy one by two by three by one. And he's talking about twelve dollars. You may want to put that in two or three dollars more. Well well and and riff on that for a second neck. And maybe if you wanna on if you want well we'll save the sam houston for next the The differentiate between spending more. And and i appreciate you know how you how you couched the pick six portion of the discussion. But i came away feeling like instead of spending sixty e i personally i probably needed to spend one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty if i was going to seriously attack that the gulfstream pick sex and that has never been. I preferred approach and and i really at the same time. Can't hold myself back from putting in the you know the the modest budget ticket thinking. And seth merrin. I've discussed this a million times. You know Seth scott the you know small ticket idea that when i'm right on It's going to pay for any time. I've missed a. I'm in the i'm in the camp that says i. I wanna take a swing at this. But i'm not. I'm just not going to spend hundreds. And i see plenty of people that that take the approach where they're spending hundreds even on fiqh fours and fives in some cases and there are occasions where that pays off and people are getting five digit scores ten thousand and above and and you know mid five figure hits spending you know two hundred three fifty five and six hundred i to me to me. I can't even if i had unlimited budget i would. I don't think i would do that. And i just at the same time you get frustrated thinking to yourself you know you. You wouldn't hurt to throw another sixty eighty dollars at this and you would have really given yourself at least the best chance to it. Yeah and a lot of that is gonna come down to trial and error. You know they're going to be sequences. Where you you bad and you think to yourself boy. If i bet a little bit more i would have hit for more. It's not always that simple right. I mean it's not. I know the there was a tremendous amount of fineness. The jockey club. Sam houston for one of the guys in there who bet a pick six every day in new york and he spent between two and eight dollars and so somebody said one day boy if we just each gave joe twenty bucks and let him put it into the pick six then he'd probably win left and right and i said you sure about that. Because now he's going to become a much he's gonna become a lazier handicapper and he's going to say well. I got more money to spend. So i'm just gonna use more horse and he's probably gonna win at about the same rate but obviously he's gonna make a smaller profit and so that's the concern. Is that are you. You know where you betting are. Are you spending more money. Because you simply want more coverage because if you're doing that than if you're a mid range budget type of player you probably should be sitting out right. You should be looking for sequences that fit your budget if it's something where you feel like you're somewhat limited by your capital if you have money if you have a sequence that you particularly like the not needs to become a situation where you say to yourself okay. I'm going to really go after this one. I might sit out three or four in this pool over the next couple of days. If i'm you know fairly like it's aggressive recreational player oxymoron. That is but you know that might be your approach. Because what you're trying to do is make a profit on that one where you have a good opinion so you know take take santa anita opening day for example if you felt strongly about a worse like charlatan and maybe you felt like there was a an avenue for duopoly and those were two horses that right within obviously you wanna structure many multi rates backed as possible accentuating those two using them prominently and trying to cash. And you could have done very very well if you would have found your way into fair maiden and me in the nightcap winter so you have to let the sequence dictated you. Can't i don't think you can say to yourself. I have one hundred dollars to play the pick five. Let me look at the five. I just. I don't think that that's a lie approach and i think in the long run. You're going to end up hurting yourself. I think that sets approach that. You alluded to nepal matisse soccer. Right about this bed a little to make a lot and understand that you're going to lose the overwhelming majority of the time as long as you have the right psyche and the right amount of confidence in your process. That's fine because i mean let's not kid ourselves we're all going to go through prolonged losing streaks. We're gonna go through time where we're handicapping. Well we're getting no lock on the race track. We're going to go through times where we're not handicapping. Well at all we're not betting well it's cetera et cetera. But if you can if you can find yourself if you can pick up the sunday racy forum after you went through saturday and you may have played one or two tracks and not hit that. Then go with it. Keep keep going with that. If you're somebody that kind of needs to to see things go the right way once and you'll start to bet with more confidence and you want to be careful about taking that approach and maybe only spending sixteen or thirty two dollars on a sequence and waiting to cash for big type of money. The problem that that. I've always seen with people that take that kind of approaches that you don't wanna waste good price sources and you don't want you know if you were somebody that liked citrus burst on saturday and you didn't hit the pick six. I really hope you bet him to win right. Because you need that that twenty three dollars and change in order to to to kind of keep yourself afloat. You and i were texting opening date. Santa anita lamenting that. I keep fair maiden with two horses that finished off the board and so i didn't feel terrible because i didn't really love fair maiden now i definitely should've got her to win. If she was a horse that had had keyed her and not better to win somehow missed the try. I mean i would have been. I was very very upset. Because you just can't you can't miss those opportunities. So that's the. I think that's the best approach to take. And if you're somebody that's that's really jumping into these pick sixes to get back to the origins of conversation on force out days then. Don't want to let your bankroll limit. you want. Wanna go through the sequence. Get a sense of what it looks like and you know it might be one of those days. There was a forced out day on new year's eve. Twenty nineteen to twenty twenty-eight act where it looks like it's going to be exceptionally chalky and favorites one. Three of the. I four legs the second choice one the fifth like and then like a nine to one. I started when the last. I didn't get paid a couple thousand and it was a great opportunity for somebody that could have put you know sixty dollars into it to make a couple of grants so look at. It seems kind of sequence. That might be an opportunity for you to you. Know to get after it and i mean. Let me tell you a great opportunity for that right now and i am. I am completely unpaid spokesperson time. Somebody wants to be an advocate for horse players. Start betting geico pick six that this act pick six with a twenty percent takeout and a mandatory daily pay. Because it's going to be a great and let's not kid ourselves mean the racist but much better Dish this current meet than it's been in past years but they're not going to be dealing with twelve horsfield fields one after another. You're not gonna be you're you're you're going to be looking at you're gonna get great information. On the telecast about track biases and things like that But it's gonna be a good opportunity for you to start to get a little bit more involved in structuring tickets and seeing how you wanna play sequences and then of course you have pick five gonna pick four to back you up if you somehow get knocked out of the pick six. It's from a low price point. It has a low low takeout so to speak for a pick six so that that's a good opportunity. And these are the kind of vets that we need to be putting our money into to show track management and you know the industry in general that yeah there is you know they may not be a ton of it there is some price sensitivity and there is some attention paid to kind of pools that really benefit us most being involved. And i'm glad you brought the the ecuador portion in because you you had a little mini thread where you know. You had a back to back Post about it. Yesterday i got distracted. And i meant to re circulate it. So i'm glad you included that in the conversation Because obviously you tony alvarado and the team or going to evaluate you. Know the the approach going forward based on how they do with it here. These next three weeks In the early returns are are positive. And i maintain with sam houston starting thursday going to a standard pick sex no more jackpot starting thursday and a very aggressive pricing. The there's there's every reason the sense that There's a pendulum swing going away from the jackpot concept. I'm sure that stronach contracts will will continue with it because they you know they. They crafted it and have had six. You know big success with it And that's understandable that they that they'll maintain it but You know those that that kinda got in. I'm anxious to see where churchill's thoughts are in the spring because churchill actually Hasn't gotten enough credit for. They have one but their pricing structure is very different than everybody else's and they. It's not as usery. It's not it's not structured as as oppressively as most of the others but i think I think the pendulum is coming back in the other direction. Let's talk about that sam. Houston portion and You know these first. Two nights of of racing. Nick came off very well. The force out on saturday people right away of sure were feeling you know like they. They took a took a coke bottle to the head With the longest shot on the board Go all the way. I i know that jessica made a case For this one going long on the turf that that he had something that you could you could use as a foundation for backing him. I went back. And i just didn't really see it. The horse in the nightcap. That paid thirty one. I could much more easily. Make a case for heavenly rhythm at the end but talk about what we saw at. Sam houston on saturday night. Yeah and was. It was basically that it was a couple of price horses. What was otherwise a pretty forceful sequence and I mean he could go all the way who was thirty to one of the morning line. I mean hunting kind of underlying He seems very very hard to find. And i think it's not so much because you couldn't find some things to like about that particular horse but you know it felt like the majority of the time that race was run. It was going to be one by one of the six. And then they sort of inexplicably get involved in pay stool and the one obviously family issues which we talked about a little bit on friday And so he you know he could pitch elated readily the three sixteenths poll and six was done as well from being on the chase. You know one thing about sam used in turf especially early in the need is that I mean even though the weather is is very moderate here. It's it's still of course it has a little bit more moisture than it would later in the so. It's a little difficult to quicken. And you're going to see the times gets low. It actually snowed in houston yesterday for what it's worth. It's lead in a little bit on my car. I drove to pick up a vietnamese soup but not anything significant so there was probably supposedly like eight inches in north texas which is full out panic but But anyway so you know that he could go all the way. Got a great trip. Save ground kicked out got the job. Done beat flexibility. Who seemed like a pretty. You know pretty obvious us. Then after that you had you know one sort of formed full results after another ultimate one six race and was expected to do so Got up right on the wire over bobby brinkley. They were the one to first and second choices And then the the Jr called while winner of the eighth was probably the only maybe slight surprise at at four to one or so Other than that you had bear bryant. Got up right on the wire in the seventies the the second choice behind vegas guy and then the nineteenth winner who is trained by scott. Young urban wisdom ran very well and And it was another know. We're supposed to use even if you were only too deep and in that got us the nightcap where the two favorites were very questionable and it ended up that the two three and four one off the the choices and half the entry felt like either the entry like they could be competitive. What are the things that went on. Was that The one plane got it very very good ride. I slept some work to do it. Fell to me is the night were on. The rail was bad. There were a few horses that spent a significant amount of time on the inside and ended up. Tiring one of them vegas guy One of them was onomatopoeia. Who i liked him. The ninth and just had no punch whatsoever trying to come through on the inside and basically every winner was kind of an outside rally or as the night were on. So that's something. I'll take a look at it and obviously we'll let everybody know what my conclusions are But so this was a sequence where you know the mrs anecdotal on my part is not studied it. I've even asked anybody looks kind of information. The biggest price you had was in the first leg. I've always believed that. It's it's less significant. Have a big price in the first leg in terms of payoffs than any other because so many people want to get out of that first leg and simply being alive and so i think there are more opportunities for people to go deeper than in there than there really are anywhere else so you know you look at the breeders cup this year right. I know five different people who had to pick four because they use all in the mile it was the first like you know and and maybe that's simply just as i said. Maybe that's anecdotal. Maybe that's something that can't be but isn't concrete but still. I don't think he could go all the way. Being in the third or fourth leg would have. I think it would've actually made a even less likely horse to be on tickets then within being in the first leg so this was a sequence where you needed to take what looked like a relatively competitive race on paper. Go as deep as you could he issued for. Somebody like me would have been if i didn't use could go all the way at all but if you had used him as a backup you needed to be right and five consecutive legs or if you like them may be good enough to be a be then. You need to have four as win in a row which i was reasonable for most people and then have the the entry in the nightcap is at least if you were playing to be tickets so it was a very very tough result and And look you're rewarded handsomely if you were able to connect on it but It was you know it was a fun sequence. And and i'm hopeful that there will be a lot of support for a fifty cent pick six to twelve percent take out. Which is what. Sam houston is going to be doing starting on thursday when racing zoos and yeah i mean i think there's an actually houston like churchill as you were saying the price point on the on the structure of the jackpot that it has twelve percent take out and thirteen percent went to carry over so basically was a twenty three and a half twenty four percent effective takeout and of course what that means is that the carryover grow slowly right in the places. That are doing jackpot. That's that that are really handling big money. Their defective takeout is in the neighborhood of sixty seventy percent and even gulfstream's is close to fifty. That's the carryover pool gross so much and so my hope with with the naira. I actually just learned this morning that they did not pay out the pick. Six in month of january twenty twenty so. The comparison year to year is going to be apple to apple. Now as the carry over pod grew the handle also grew but it kind of tapered off later in january so the comparison is going to be fair. It did not pay out until the second week in february in twenty twenty it also handled two and a half million dollars that day. So that's the thing to remember that these jackpots are always going to have a huge cool When when they're paid out you know the things you remember about that is that that pool is going to be made up of money. That is not the money that made the carryover grow. And that's difficult for the re regular player whether they're somewhat serious or even recreational overall the neck quick Thoughts about the two nights. Friday as well. The support from the public outstanding. I mean it's it's good to see hundred thousand dollar. Pick four pick five pools sam. Houston i know that that franken staff. Chris did a great job with marketing. And getting the word out and Two and a half million dollars on opening night ten houston. I'd have to ask frank. But i i i wanna say i think that's the most they've had this century so going all the way back to you know. Meet us open in november But that's a really really strong number really good racing the first couple of nights and the next three cards all look good. The the britain resume on thursday. So yeah i mean it's all leading towards That january thirty first date with the houston. Ladies classic and the john connolly on the same program i think things are things are looking like. They're going to be very very strong. Houston and houston in the middle of a tremendous meet in two thousand twenty before the pandemic railway. I think it would have kind of been the early season. Standard for handle increases handle was up. I wanna take thirty percent similar to what it was up They've up even more through the first couple of nights. But yeah i think it's gonna continue that direction and i encourage people looking for a nighttime signal to to take a good hard look at it. There's not a whole lot going on that time of night especially later on wants to flee and you'll get good opportunity. Thursdays are going to be very interesting. I would think because they're gonna sort of be the first of the the night tracks with the four o'clock local start and that's going to get them a little bit in front of turf way. And i think what what frank was looking forward to try and fit into the niche that sin anita would have had if they were racing on thursdays so hopefully We'll get some southern california support as well so should be should continue to be a very funny well and we'll feature Will feature analysis much like we did with. Indiana will attack that The thursday slot as well each week. The meat at sam houston s. Hrp sam houston race park and nick. I appreciate The the monday visit and we'll we'll talk Later in the week of course Forty mentioned that we got a big fairgrounds. And if you've had this saturday at fairgrounds but that's crazy it's going to be a very good day racing and the weather is going to cooperate. So feels like feels like we're really this. This was the weekend that kind of thing gets the wheels in motion and starting to you know starting to train starting to pull out of the station for twenty twenty one lead exactly and dam and ta m m one two one five nick tomorrow. Everybody will talk to nick later in the week right. Now we've got about fifteen minutes to close out the morning and we'll get to fill d'amato tomorrow and of course anti certainly will join us as well but It didn't get to fill today. I feel bad song tamar the and obviously we'll have day one of the sale which is now forty five minutes into the four day run. Brian san fratello us from the pennsylvania. Horse breeders and brian happy new year. Happy new year to you. Steve unlikely to act up and running right got to you. Got to be girded for everything And you got to be prepared Certainly with the start of the the foaling season and talked about this with sid fernando on on wednesday. The babies are starting to drop. We're starting to see first foles from a first year stallions and it's also Stallion auction season and that includes the pennsylvania horse breeders association. You guys have been doing this for over ten years. Yep yep we Start this evening. Bid nyc actually midnight tomorrow morning On our eleven nine season all right now we have approximately seventy five eighty stallions but were seasons but we are adding more as we speak Really yeah we're adding in And always dreaming from windstar Where We're going to be adding something. Surely from spendthrift is waiting for mark toothache or to get back to me On that and she proved to be another good season You can View all the stallions right now online at p. bread dot com under our stein season auction But if you want to bid on them you want to go to thoroughly bread dot com That's The online auction site and sign up for a free registration. So you'll be ready to go the auction's going to last approximately a week Again it'll start Midnight tonight and end on the eighteenth at nine pm and Pretty easy to You know to register four We have Stallions from Five different state Nice nice contingent from pennsylvania And you definitely want to take a look at those pennsylvania Horses because of the fact that the breeder awards are so lucrative He raised that horse in pennsylvania Yeah you're talking fifty percent breeder award for maiden races first through third and forty percent for all others If you If you don't breathe to a pa style you you still have twenty five percent per year awards For main races and Twenty percent for all there's so It's a great program and it's a great way to start off by getting a good deal on a season. Well and you know one thing that from year to year people may forget just because it's the pennsylvania Horse breeders association i. It's not as as brian just referenced. It's not just pennsylvania stallions you've got new york represented in here and maryland kentucky There's lots choose from and for those. That might have missed out on the on the way you might have gone. There might be any number actually of of crossovers that you made a play for On friday at the auction and get price the price out and come back and take a look here because there's not just the the single season there's a few of the stallions that have got multiple seasons and we should feature that sky kingdom at darby. Dan you got the chances of three seasons Smarty others smarty jones seasons so it's not limited to one up count charlie brown who's been really a a story that that needs more attention from limited opportunities throw nothing but runners Warriors reward has got a pair as well at widow so This is a list that that really should be reviewed. There's you know there's names on here that Is going on that really going to surprise you that you know some first year stallions at all these different venues. Yep definitely definitely take a look At the at the auction Like i said You're ready to roll in In twenty twenty one No better way than get a good deal on on the sale also also just like to bring up the fact that if you're buying a mayor in foal right now at the keeneland sale you have fourteen days to bring that mayor into pennsylvania. Drop that mayor in pa and be eligible for the pa program. So Another good way to get involved in boy. That's a timely. How about i i. I did not know that that Because usually mayor residency is typically much longer. Right it's usually a ninety day period or soap. so that's a fascinating little sidebar. Yup yup usually at the be. The mayor has to be in estate state by december first. Yeah but but You know if you bring her in the within fourteen days a sale after december first and And she falls in She'll be eligible for the program. It should also note that You know in some cases a lot of cases with the stallion seasons their nonguarantee. But as it happens you've got quite a few on this roster that that you know is a live foal condition as opposed to a non guarantee season. Yep yep we try to get as many as you know as we can That are Live phones but You know some of the Some of the sanctions on their you know the the higher priced. Ian's get a life full well. The candy rides Candy ride on this list and that of that ilk You know you understand but Some some most of seemingly all the pennsylvania stallions are live fall. We talked to mark cassie earlier today. Air force is on this list. Echo is training and breeding this kind of skimming down command post that win oaks. Live foal Greatest cat at quest royal and We've got. I've got a nice courageous cat. We got minute. Mouse and crown of thorns equa star. These are both live foal Going down here. Who else we got. Four billion up at my computer. Just got golden lead. Also nice little golden lab action nice. Here's majestic city at irish hill and duchess view. And this is this really is a nice list going up and down lanes. The lanes then was very generous with you too Liam's map mineshaft is a quite a quite a bit to mr speaker Darby dan end lanes in both the with a hatful of of their stallions. Absolutely lanes end and some of the other ones have been really great to us over the years as far as the seasons are are concerned so you know we've You know we. We developed You know relationship with a lot of kentucky farms and And it works for both of us and as you mentioned we'll watch for always dreaming to be added. And you mentioned that you just added golden land clamp down here for darby dan honor code honore p gift. Box lanes end is mentioned mile. Really nice. this is. This is a is a midshipman There's there's a lot to consider in here and starting tomorrow and midnight or actually tonight at midnight and going through monday so we'll remind people Going into The weekend and then of course next monday as well. Yep i just like to remind everyone that you know if you're getting non-guaranteed season You can Purchase insurance on that to cover you know for those higher price science. nice brian. We got about two three minutes Give us a little update. We haven't spoken since the fall and The the program and the opportunities obviously coming out of Coming out of the cove effective year. That that really touched everybody From eerie to the ben salem Talk about Looking back at the year and surviving essentially. Yeah i mean. The stallion farms did a fantastic job during It you know making sure that that You know everyone was safe as as they. You know i'd say mayors in for for breeding and you know quite frankly The you know. I didn't I wasn't sure i how you know. How the What's going to go but it actually went quite well. you know one of the things that that we also Uh talked about was The governor's proposal to take money from the resource development. Trust fund which which did not happen as you know. We put that funding in trust in two thousand seventeen and you know the backing behind. Not touching that on Really was Was fantastic legislature. So i wanted people to understand that Because the first thing they think about it all the money be there. Because we're you know we're looking to to You know three years down the road for years in a row before your radio network and You know it You know knock on wood. Everything went Went well money was not touch during that period and hopefully people will understand that. We're going to do what we can do. And make sure that you know that money goes where it's supposed to two breeding racing in pennsylvania and when we when we talked about it and when we had tommy thompson on the you know the the concern just the headlines. The was enough to you. Know to make people worry and In terms of mayors bread one one does that report when do we. When do we hear those numbers well. The mayor's bred mares bred was port came out and we were up You know we're up again I think it was approximately five percent so again for You know fourth straight year. We've been up Proximity You know since seventeen Approximately fifty some up in pennsylvania when the rest of the country is approximately fifteen percent. Dow so I you know. I can thank you. No thank those breeders for hanging in there and You know bringing their mayors and You know and and breeding to in pennsylvania so Again like. I said you know when i first looked at twenty twenty You know i said i saw. I don't know how this is gonna work out with everything that's going on but you know it just it just a you know the the the breeders staying parts did a fantastic job. Well we We'll start to hear about Babies and watch for we'll watch for fuzzy falls to start dropping and we'll certainly keep everybody. Keep them alerted to this terrific list. Start you can make it easy. Start at pa. Bread dot com and The the auction is featured right in the center. You'll see the whole You know the whole list of stallions but the sale itself is at thoroughly. Bread dot com. And this is. This is a nice listen. There might be a very nice opportunity to match up. Exactly the styling that that you want for your mayor and we'll we'll keep everybody checking in on it Lots of time to you. Got a literally a week from tonight. through till next monday evening. Brian continued success and We'll We'll check in as the as the season unfolds. Thanks great talk nigga as usual my pleasure. Brian san fratello everybody. The pennsylvania breeders association. The bread dot com. And you can follow Brian brighter farm the farm on on twitter as well. There you go. I i was. I think we had this conversation. Maybe last year. And i. But i had forgotten that There are so many other other stallions from the region and from kentucky included. So take a look. Callie met with a bunch as well. A lot of first crop. First time stallions the represented going to have to could have to look it over and haven't we haven't not. We haven't made decisions ourselves with the way i want to. We want to see the baby that that voltaren delivers in march. That was a fast Monday monday's always a blur. Thanks and to marquette. And nick tomorrow and brian san fratello kc with more. Good luck with your playing today. Limited limited choices a racing today. But it's okay back with you tomorrow. Nine o'clock you missed anything. Replaces the nine or stephen dot com little archive in the pod. Keep talking the morning thanks. Everybody apple with steve big on sirius. Xm radio there's a great story to talent. Pennsylvania only three states have produced more breeders cup champions in new state can match our performance in recent years since two thousand sixteen our numbers of mayors bread.

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Part 2: Arnaud Delacour

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22:26 min | 1 year ago

Part 2: Arnaud Delacour

"Are No good morning. Congratulations in money. Thank you very much. Two wins not Not just one to talk about here. Her and with a couple of sets of owners. Ed Seltzer and Bev Anderson as well at the Jackson's The pretty nice to get winds for for those two sets of owners but festive. And I'm very grateful to have 'em they're very very good people and Kusak you know pretty good guys to fend off and on doubt about it and undoubtedly early and let's talk about the Jacksons win. I in the endeavor you look at a field like this are no and you know knowing that got stormy is making in her seasonal debut. And what was your thinking going in Out How to how to win this race well MHM whatever Dinatale was out you know. She was the speed so dramatic. Pretty good shot to hit the ball. You know pretty much Center in France I tried to steal the range and hit the ball. She obviously they don't stick because not only she divulge Alderman. I'm an and ran a great race to win the race So you know that was Has a bit of a surprise but she was doing well. That's exactly how it laid out and it was funny because you know those of us that were watching we were at the NHCD in Vegas and watching the race. Seeing Josie cat it kind of grinding out. And and you know having the measured lied under Danielson Tena Oh when when she turned and started to quicken off the turn. You could see that she was going to have every chance to win. And one of the interesting things about that configuration at Tampa is you can't be sure at the opening if if the horse has the lead at the gap there's a tendency for horses to swamp them and they came running at her but she stayed on and I thought Santino did a great great job holding her together. I agree I agree that I mean was fake. News that draft so anyway also knows the city pretty well. 'cause he's order the fall time he was writing. So everything's GonNa have all that stuff So you know credit through the Phili- saw Oh this is this is a great win For the JACKSONS. And for you because this is a beautifully bred red mayor and she's built a solid resume but to get a great at stake wind. This is huge for the Jacksons. Yeah that's exactly. What what you know after the race Obviously the bright. So that's that's that's even better when you on every there there's nothing like it and now being by and the rest of the chest fly it was a really big in and eh out of curiosity is she. Is She in. One of those positions are no where you were running in here and if she were where to win a a graded stake that she still has plenty of time to go to the shed or is she going to run out the full five year old season. But I we love to speak to the Jackson but definitely needs As as long as competitive. And we've got option for them. They love off to run. You know so I mean I would imagine that she she seems to make mayweather from as I would imagine that we run out this summer. Yes it talk a minute about what went on at the end of the of the season last year at four and the beginning of this year. Because you you were you were trying her on the dirt as well and feels like she's she's a little better as a turf bear but What what was the thinking behind the the two Dirt starts when I get a number both number one of the big it. Whoever similar you know so I mean therefore I thought we had options way under death on the task tried to find your spot when she wanted them the last attempt as of as its fifth spot for half a week of group that she meets as it's thanks to the rates for two to win the stakes for she was picturing there at the time but the number is good path so that that that was a great cause their best that they can go either way and she can win on soft on so she's a little bit affirm- on soft? I'm Sam that shows that They have food for trinity down to play. There's also I just realizing into that that she's a full she's a full sister to divining Rod. Exactly Yeah and you you guys you you would Li train divining divining Rod. Yes yes okay. And I'm just trying to remember because I did he. He he was word horse he was a dirt horse. ARSE retracement at one time it didn't work out so we we kept him on the death and he got beat ahead in the seagull mile. When good take so now definitely a high-calibre haw and so there there's the there's the one of the mysteries mysteries of of Equine parenthood? Here's a full sibling. And you got one. That's a little better on grass at at one that was better during a stake winner on on the dirt. I it's very it's very funny You're right you're right and FOUND UNDO WE SHAPE. She's she's told Philly beautiful looking Philly He was like a smaller. More like Montana kind of food. I would say But you know the two of them are great Alsace but she can go on both so that that's very make w yeah. Yeah it does look like the Mayor Precious kitten. who would be seventeen now? She she kid does not showing any produce after twenty sixteen so it looks like Jehovah at will end up having been her her last foal and and so the chance to go on with this line That's gotTa be very gratifying. It's funny They the Jacksons produced full siblings. That never made it to the racetrack and now Full Siblings in divining Rod in Jehovah Cat who graded stakes winners. There was also a medallion. Doro Philly kittens smitten. And you've had you've had all the produce make me feel any young. Yeah I love it I love it and the kittens smitten. She's got a quality road colt that that is a short yearling right now showing. She's she's she's a very nice. Well we'll see what's next for Josie Cat let's turn Beyond this to the win in the Suncoast Lucretia and this was a very powerful visual performance. I thought this is an intimate if that Mister Seltzer and and not only not only Bev Anderson but also Krista Seltzer bread and a big win for them. Yeah it definitely Big Story Day You know the the ad for generation Ed was telling me I think is the fifth generation. You know that you know so so that that's wonderful She is She's autumn show done. Since the beginning we liked a lot he's got another speed of because I was not sure that she could go to them. But with as a good spot to try and She showed us that that that sounds on the program. No talk a little bit about you. Know about the approach here too because she more or less was was prominent immediately and Sante no didn't hesitate to go on. It was kind of a even though this was a mile in forty it was very similar to the way she won the the the Sandpiper in I mean there's another speed in the race as she could have been with the speed but something that it just to take it back a little eight letter. Breathe air when she does wears. She's not. She's got speed which betrays issues really reserved. You can do whatever you want to. We do and And and it doesn't does that the fact that he took back let it get your like really really had bigger she already uh-huh and there's also a story to be asked to to be fleshed out with her regarding turf and dirt. She's out of a very very nice rocky mayor ver- Danbolt exactly. Yeah so same story. We can go. She'd be back from Dante off and she has. I mean she broke up on getting on very nicely. Moving a up so I mean once again We end up with the city that that he's he's very Fleischer. Whoever we want so that that's how you know? How aggressive will you be? The you know the race came back. kind of moderate in terms of in terms of speed got an eighty two buyer. That's been kind of the range that that she is shown she. She had an eighty six. When she turf sprinted the one the SANDPAPER Sandpiper a seventy two Feels like maybe she she needs some intermediate steps are no before you face the you know the top Phillies of the division. The thinks she's got oaks potential. Yeah I don't know about all but additionally campus step of Would see where we go next. But I wouldn't rule out The the actually on that came out to like the track of the day she run sales. Time is a good check INS and I think she would like to mine. The sixteen in you know it's the best way of So that could be a strong possibility as the deal. I I would say one race at a time with make with alleged but I'm not sure the minute weather I would be you know. Well we'll we'll keep tabs In in the meantime I just always happy. I have known Mr Seltzer for a long time. One of the first owners That I got to know doing doing the show and He he and Bev Anderson Breed. They breed a nice horse. And and You know the kind of people Certainly both sets of clients. Hi It's The kind of people the the game really really can use and of course Seltzer and Anderson also involved with the Colt that you ran in the Sam Davis Japan Lou. What was your feeling coming out? I mean we were trying to them knowing that most probably go back on the Jeff but we we want to give him shots on the Vang well Anita Tampa Unfortunately to shop he really like out of okay and then give something much of a choice you know he wouldn't really relaxed rate So we went a little quick. And maybe I think it was done alley and that's the sign of a false to me you know Troubling when and as soon as he came up to you know he strikes out getting shot. These away went. It went up so we did the right thing just to you know not to abuse even the to give him a hat ray he came back very wayland. That'd be looking for to really very good and Chapala he's a flatter out of a black Middle Louche mayor in fact like we talked. I think it was on Wednesday with with Sid. Fernando came up we talked about black men and you know in his his lineage edge so this is the time of year obviously a three year olds get are going to get a chance chance you know you you take a shot and we see it you know we see it very often. I do want to ask about one of the one of the members of the Barn Arnaud that we certainly have talked about in the last The last couple of years no dozing ran the other day to and he's Even a good race didn't get paid very five Always getting it'd be and probably yeah bitch smarter and wiser. So I'm not sure that the taper infinitely the ban such a nice beauty for half and And as I say you know we will He likes to run second lately. It is a delight to train. Is there anything you can do to to kind of challenge him and change things up on him to you. Know to try to Tried to break out of it I fact please just write something for the first stivers today to write in their wisdom southern and write a couple of set the attractive day. So that's something completely different which is want to change chances. Mind letting my friend is probably tell US raise ready to go back and to you know to to perform again. I'm curious with the Jackson's experiment with with trying him as a as a as a chaser his jacket on newsradio. To anything when it comes to Get another one failed hostage and she they do a great job to retrain Halsey Fab you know so. It's not a it's not impossible that losing end up in In Lyon Psalm in Pennsylvania to be retrained and it can be you know if you can be very good in in another day shipping but But the host is doing well is very sound on route wonderful and he's abby so kissing is racing in but you know there's going to be up to in steeplechase steeplechase. Aw I the the phone is GonNa ring any minute. It's going to be Sean clancy and You're not far from the truth I have a bunch trough goal but the good thing is that the Chevy that would not be training to go jumping because that that's what I'm seeing emanates Berry I love it I love it are no. It's always great to connect with you and I'm glad we mentioned Li I wanted to ask how everything is At home and and I I wasn't sure how much time she was spending at the at the barn but he makes every day so so that's That's wonderful she's in between the ban and You know if you're raising children and doing a terrific job I'm doing so I'm happy. Well and and your your old is. There's got to be almost it's gotta be almost time to put a rake in their hands and and get them out Working on the on the shed. We've tried that it in good shape Arnaud loved it. Loved love connecting Congratulations the Seltzer Anderson. And the layout WOAH team. And the YOU and Lee. We'll talk soon. I'm sure there are no delacour. Who does such a great job and the the nosing there you go? There's a steeplechase a fraudulent I can. I can see that coming back after this top of the hour. Roll it around and Patrick biancone. We'll talk to Patrick about his success. In recent weeks which goes beyond just so the launch phase win in the Sam Davis because at the end with the very very good effort in the Holy Bull. And then there's diamond oops who can leap tall buildings in a single bound The horse can do anything Patrick Metric being code joins US next John White to follow aberrations with in Steve on Sirius. XM Radio Hey. What's going on Mike and I'm going to tell you about an offer for my good good friends at express? Bet Let's be honest we know you'll love playing the racist but you can't always make it to the track. Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good bet. What if I told you about a place where you're never miss and you start with house money it's am crazy right now? 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You listen to Listen to Courtney love at whole and that line to think of they think of what goes on in Vegas you you walk down into the lobby at five. Am for you if journeys coaster it's eight o'clock and my God. There's all kinds of these kinds of things to see Eddie Point. You know some some sometimes you you you get there and you're you know you're down four o'clock three thirty when you wake up if you're on the east coast time it's hard patrick. BIANCONE is joining us and just off with Arnaud Delacour and I I also saw that Rudy. perset one on Saturday at at Tampa so It was it was a an absolute allude the parade of top French horsemen but Patrick's been doing it a long time. Last week it was at Indian with a terrific terrific effort behind Tis the law. Diamond oops who emerged over the last eighteen months as well.

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Part 1: Paul Mc Gee, Jonathon Maldonado

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Part 1: Paul Mc Gee, Jonathon Maldonado

"Sirius Xm presents. With Steve and becoming interviews. This will stupid very good Tuesday race fans series to nineteen. Xm To a once night. Sixty four if you're listening to Siriusxm online at our website Steve Dot com as I put on my shoes. Yeah how about Saku? Do you remember that scene all in the family right with Carroll O'Connor and and Bob Ryder about the sock shoe shoe or a sock and shoe and his Haakan Issue. I do I well. This time I just did a sock and issue a soccer show as opposed to sock shoe shoe. That's pretty funny. If you who who remembers it from all the family I? It's been a flurry of activity here. And I think we got really a fun three hours because there's lots of mostly there's lots of the terrific story lines and fun visits because again yesterday is certainly with Paul McGee. Another one of those. You just heard Gary and I I can't was pushing and celebrating that that weekend theme of small to medium size outfits and all the success they had and of course. Yes you had Steve. Asmussen win the the southwest yesterday with silver prospector and will talk about. We'll talk about the comprehensive success. That was meted it out by by nick and Johnny to Johnny got you wells by you underneath at the nine. To One and nick laid out the entire. Pick five if you just listening actually in the last hour if you've if one of these people that listens to the replay leading into the live a two thousand dollar pick five and Knicks essentially knicks. First or second choice one each of the races so it it was a it. Was a bonanza on that front and I know a lot of you got a piece and it. Also silver prospectors win. I thought further fed into the discussion. We had with Peter's on Friday. Just the the template for looking at a race had. He certainly talks about this to the result of one race. And then you know parsing out. The conditions that led to the result and understanding that those same conditions can be entirely different and it really from the SMART. I if you WANNA take two charts and to circumstances and lay them side by side the Smarty Jones and what was happening that day opening day at oaklawn versus what you know a fair a fair racetrack is like and how you can't make a summary. Judgment on the runners. It particularly young three year olds. Who are changing all the time. But you know condemning silver prospector out of the Smarty Jones. And saying that is this. Is this this was A? This was a two year old precocious type. That didn't go forward now now. That's not what happened. Gold Street and NICK ACTUALLY HAD A. I had an exchange about how vulnerable and he said it right yesterday. When we were capping Gold Street was going to be overvalued out of that performance and in the absolutely was and this is the money that he talk that. That's how you get ninety. Two on silver prospector. And and really you couldn't have drawn up any better so Thanks neck and Ed Peters Johnny with the insight on wells by you. That was the only horse. Johnny was interested in the end at nine to one. He made the the exact thing and and was really the key to the really the key to the try and the super with was an answer in and and shoplifted but there There was a lot of great information into into that card yesterday. And also included. I kept mentioning Friday and then again yesterday. Marcus Hirsch Marcus Hirsch that flare up last week from fairgrounds watching warriors charge. I must have set it to three times. That marcus the way. He described Warrior Chores. Charge coming into this race and then he absolutely ran exactly as hinted. We'll talk to Brad Cox tomorrow. Brad is with that. Had been about as emotional day as a conditioner is going to endure from the morning and happy for the Cox Barn that the afternoon results lifted Hopefully lifted the spirits after Tarez very tough day and and I know having exchanged Some notes with with Garrett Rourke in how how anguish they were a judgment Sa- Crazy Day The the horse apparently apparently got loose out the gate somehow at at a judgment got loose out the gate at patient park yesterday as well so Garrett had about is Has Difficult to a morning as you know as a racing operation managers is going to endure and the reaction was exactly as it did yesterday after we got the news on air which was very difficult to say. The least. We'll talk to Brad tomorrow. But meanwhile those two performances warriors charge and silver prospector essentially equal time. There were what I think. Four races at a mile and a sixteenth yesterday at Oakland. So figs were were easy to make and ninety seven buyers silver prospector declaration of war. And then I. Steve Asmussen going forward toward rebel in Arkansas Derby and silver prospector off that Churchill. Experience those that those that were behind him an interest in 'em well you're you're you gotta feel good. That was that was a terrific effort. And you know I know people say oh. We got a dream trip okay. We've a dream trip. I get it yeah. Things might be different in the field of you know with one thousand nine hundred dollars what you can't. The value of that portion of the discussion is. I don't know you know that. That's why there's odds on on the various sources under under that scenario the bring this full circle the first of the stakes the by Coa Paul McGee and Paul's going to join us after the first break looking forward always look forward to visit with Paul. Who maintains you know a a modest stable? He's always got saved. Basically the same number of starters year and handful the only trains as many as he puts his hands on. And Go Google Yourself Samantha. Siegel always happy for Samantha. Who supports the game so enthusiastically and breeds vise and Batson? And just and just loves it. And Game Siegel family has been stalwarts. For a long time and Samantha carrying the banner for parrots and the J. M. s. The J. M. S. brand. You WanNa be in the J. M. S. business Go Google Yourself. Made the the late move and Bryner has time that just beautifully to get up. So we'll talk to the Paul and we'll get some of his thoughts and Sure he's back in New Orleans. Let's see what else is forthcoming for him. This winter good racing good racing all around and we got tons to catch up on as I keep beating the drum for the success this weekend of the modest sized a first stake win for Jonathan Maldonado and that philly that the we had we had mentioned on Friday handicapping. I think with what? When scully was on nasty thoughts? Who the LEHTO and we're GonNA talk to Jonathan. I was very excited. About is obviously about his verse. This they win and we'll find out about him and look forward to that. Jonathan Maldonado this hour later. Kelly rupee if you have not. If you haven't seen the Campbell the Campbell was one of the weekends best races and it I don't think it's gotten the attention. It deserves really really good with monogamy la the two of them essentially pulled a Jaipur Redan hook up as soon as a the gate opened and the two of them go at it shoulder to shoulder. So we'll talk to Kelly catch up with her and in fact. I BELIEVE. Take a look. I think that I think always mining with the one or two yeah Equal to factor this in the fairgrounds. The top top fig of the weekend. So we'll talk to Kelly ruefully John White will be through. We'll get to John and it seems that it seems that the the Frank Mir Ahmadi John White Angle. The public making a horse favored over John's morning. Line favorite that again over the weekend. That scored again and I saw where somebody on twitter said. It happened again. Free money free money easy game so we'll talk to John. Get his impressions of the weekend. See what see what he thought a Charlatan and actually donald curious because as we read on air with with Johnny. The the workout reports did not. They weren't waving flags Tibet Charlatan. So we'll talk to John. Jeremy Plot countdown to the crown will get Jeremy's he's writing up right now actually a lot of the weekend results you see how he fared and what he thought as well plus Some more visits and I got a ton of other things to get to a doctor all day. I was hoping today. He's on vacation. That's why couldn't reach him Late last week or or yesterday I heard from Kim responded He's a at an undisclosed location. I I'm not going to give out any details. But he he was actually out Scuba diving today. So we I I WANNA get the LIMASOL situation but I. My clinician is the wait for for Steve because he he's got a way of explaining these kinds of things really well so we will get to that. Though there was a passing. John Parade is going to join us at the top of our to it. If you weren't familiar with the name Bob Quigley You saw the the news late afternoon yesterday. That Bob at the age of ninety he had taken ill on on Sunday. What they thought was a food poisoning. He goes to Abitur Hospital and died there yesterday. And he's had he's had some health issues but this still came as a bit of a shock. Frankly John. John had dinner with them or or launch a couple of weeks ago. He said John was stunned. Bob Quickly An executive there there probably is not a racing office or racing executive Betcha two thirds of of people in racing offices of any age worked for Bob Quigley whether at the Meadowlands Garden State Park later Tama just wide. We liked and respected. So we'll talk to John. 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Thanks a lot appreciate it. Yeah she really made kind of exciting and where. You're worried that that that Brian had waited too little too long to make that run. Well Brown's very heady under underrated writer. In my opinion I thought he wrote a great race To let to let those horses go by its toll But then you could see turned for home that she had running on her mind. Sure enough she. She ended up going down row. Nellie the favorite but I must confess branded him. You worry three eight hundred later started feeling better about it. So she's she's also we should note and as part of this is to for to. You took her. You took her there last to Oakland to start her four year old season and she one off the layoff and you basically take the same if take the same approach here She was last seen in the fall. City behind Milady Kirwin. And she really starts this season beautifully. It's it's a great jumping off point for her five-year-old campaign yes it is very consistent and how you know while she's to for to she does like this track she Doesn't have to take her track rather tell you when she won her fifth race of her career. She that made her five. Wins at five. Different racetracks you. Born at Keeneland. She'd WanNa Churchill. She'd want it The fairgrounds so she's affiliated trade her. Take her track with her but you have to think she does in fact like like Oaklawn Park. Well She she it comes from a long at this point A fairly long running family that that That the SEGEL's have have produced and Going back a couple of generations. The I ain't bluffing Which was a very nice Very Nice Steak Mayor Pine Bluff Louisiana bread in fact that that the Segel's campaigned and This is I think at least second generation. Then obviously you know as into mischief. I mean she gets more and more valuable to Samantha. Long-term oh yeah and I was. I was ecstatic for Samantha. You know being a homegrown of hers excited for and But yeah she's right. She's bound to write sour. Sure is in diminutives but yes Samantha's I've got a four year old half to go yourself. That runs son Tuesday at the fairgrounds. But you're just really happy for Samantha. To get a graded stakes loon with another home-bred she. She's clearly making steady incremental. Excuse me progress This wasn't a career best figure using buyers a ninety one yesterday and The ninety two that she got it alison the Groupie dollars her career-best but you can see that that as she's matured. She's made steady growth. I mean how much more how much more upside is. Is there because to get her? You know if you're pointing for the apple blossom she's going to have to take it up a notch. Yes for sure but you're pretty to say also better with age But we have always space two races out because the one time we remember back on a tour and a three week lay-off She had learned allowance race at Keeneland. A we we will go back two or three weeks later trying to win a race at Churchill on Oak. Stay with her and she told us she didn't like that so ever since then. We've always faced a racist racist. Been great about that. And that's one reason I think we're just GONNA point for the Apple Blossom and not even consider the very for for that very reason she runwell fresh and that's just the way she likes to do well makes makes good sense and she's obviously comfortable at fairgrounds training there because she she fired. What the three bullets out of a half a dozen works since you brought her back and got her into the actually doesn't even seem like you. Maybe just gave her a couple of weeks after the fall city and then she got back to work right. Yeah we gave her a few weeks off and Are Having has been working there for me down at the fairgrounds. So of course that played in to Rodney Moaner yesterday but he he doesn't Finley will but yeah those. Those bullet breezes at the fairgrounds coming into this race were very impressive. always finished a strong in her breezes. Which of course that's what you like to see. And that's the way she rain. Yesterday was finishing store. You know I say that. And it makes me think to ask given the stretch at fairgrounds. Thirteen hundred and eight feet and then go into a place like oak lawn with a shorter stretch. I mean the fact that she She motors down a long stretch That that's gotta give her in some ways. You know some some kick when when trying to get up to the wire I I. You know that that that's a long stretch to be training on I. I we always think of just the the racetrack when it comes to the afternoons but the configuration is such at fairgrounds. That's a little bit different. the media trainer the trainer from from what poll to to. What poll at fairgrounds? Well I think Brian knows that that her finishing owner feet in breezes and so But it's been amazing. I think her last. You breeze us. She she's been twenty three the last quarter. I mean she's she's really laying down that last part and You know she's going easy to first poet and then finishing Elaine. But y'all I think her training at fairgrounds having brand breezing or all of that paid off yesterday the way she came late like she did but all those got speech. She's a fast Philly She she doesn't she's not crazy horse. Either you know. It's it's beautiful the way she can wait the way she does come from all of it or show speed when she needs it and I guess the last element here in terms of working toward the apple blossom is to get her get her over the Hump for a mile and an eighth. I mean she's only tried. I think she's only tried to twice in the Florida Lee and in the fall city but the mile in the eighth I don't think she's I don't think she's got to win. Going nine for a loss not. The full city was Marlon as second. But I'm thinking Steve. I don't have it in front of you. I'm I'm thinking the Apple Blossoms mylan of sixteen is it. So Am I all right? I I felt so again. I don't put appreciate it third the Oakland series of races. I think they all stay at a mile and a sixteenth of steak. So little little Kooky but I I it may be that memory sixteen. How about that? We'll have to check. Let me say I'm GonNa Look Right now and apple blossom cow mile and a sixteenth under there. So You keep a mile. Sixteen for whatever reason and the person's The purses just keep they keep going up from the five hundred to seven fifty or or or more for the apple blossom. The will she likes him out on sixty distance. I think it's safe to say yes. Then you're in good shape yes she. That's her fourth win in nine tries and she's never been off the board actually going mile and a sixteenth. How about that all right? Well go google yourself and The five year old Mare starts the season with the the great three Baya. Coa Brian Hernandez Junior who's one whether Her last three starts Corey Larry's one whether Joe Rocco's one with her and as Paul points out she she's one key Linden fairgrounds oaklawn. Churchill Alice Right. You're a pretty Nice Pretty Nice faker everywhere Paul. The important question is how much did Mardi make on this that? That's all that matters. Well I'm hoping we laid a lot of money so my guess is he. Is Kim how much he may there are there are there are too many Of of of your of your wins the big ones that Marty hasn't hasn't taken advantage of. I know not not not not. In the least I talk a little bit to Samantha. Obviously you know in a in a situation that West. You've had horses for years but The I talked to were Going back to Breeders Cup Week and Brian Corner with the horses out there and Michelle Nevin in New York Yes you've had. You've had just a steady supply and you keep fashioning winters. No matter what she sends. You well. She's an absolute dream to train horses for because she she always wants to do. And so that makes your buddies but Samantha's you know she's been in the game for forever and she knows the business theory will It's terrible what's going on out there in California. I tell you I really haven't talked. With Samantha a whole lot it. But Gosh it's just depressing to see what's going on out there The math just seems seems imminent so I don't know But racing the way it's thriving in Kentucky is a is a beautiful thing was Kentucky horsemen. Were getting An invasion California guys the guys as well versus in Kentucky but Yeah training for Samantha. Just I. It's a great thing at work. You said it. The it's a study study floor and the trainer is a beautiful thing. Well and you and you know you you probably have had your opportunity to to owners but it just seems like you keep a about the same number ahead. I mean for me as long as I've been veteran races. I I you know what philosophically I mean. What's your what's your approach on that front. We'll just that I'll cut my numbers at about eighteen or twenty for the last Six or eight years. And that's a good number. I feel like it's very manageable number. I've got all the horses under one roof Throughout the year which which I think is very important Years Ago I got up to forty. Something had horses and had had three different division and to me that just gets a little hairy It it doesn't doesn't work well for me as it does. Steve Asmussen those guys but I it's comfortable noling that Samantha Senators two year olds every year. I've had some horses claimed on fairgrounds this year. But that's just fine because Samantha Dot Mike. Keep those lower level Kramer's anyways. It works out. Good we we lose some of the claiming horses and then we bring in new two year olds every year. And that's a great thing. Well go google yourself obviously the the stable star and I mean just to show you how challenging it is. There is the the younger sister. Daddy made me do it right that that? And she she. She keeps nibbling Paul. But what what's it? GonNa take to get over the top be Brad Cox What I felt was a monster in that last race. So she's GonNa get her maiden one of these days. I tell you Stephen is an interesting tidbit. How very different. You know those two. They're out of the same mayor and yet they're very different types Daddy made me do it kind of a tall narrow skinniest kind of philly and go Google Yourself. She has that big core high and in so and they're actually stabled next to each other at the fairground and to look at one and then look at the other never dreamed that they'd rather same there and it's interesting and of course the mayor. Your job parade is going to be with US later. Deputy Minister Sired taunt and daddy made me do it by Temple City and go. Google yourself by into mischief Just kind of the demonstration of how the different sires and and how the the the siren damn the way they knit together and who stays what it's just A. It's one of those one of those mysteries of life of equine of e quite life any well anyway. You got my man. Miguel Maine Aboard I. This is what this is what we wanted to do. Believe Mark Mardi Gras in New Orleans. How about that next? That's right Fat Tuesday a week from today. What how does how does the the FAIRGROUNDS Condition Book Paul? How does it have to adjust to to add to entering that far out? Actually I The question I've gotten used to donate now for years so we we've all just got used to it. But Yeah I was Kentucky guys that are down there or you are in three days out in. Kentucky. Let me shut down to the fairground. And you better be paying attention when they take. It just takes a little bit out of your out of your routine for sure at entering the week out is so from Louisiana Phenomenon Just we've just grown used to that day would be a good good day to win a race faeroes. No doubt and I am looking forward. Oh we always enjoy. We always enjoy watching from afar. Food comes to to Mardi Gras. Let me ask you about a couple of others. pass the plate Pass the plate. Who was was third in in the chantal and showed quality. You know early on Winning that second. Start at Keeneland in yet for this this is for Silverton L. Yes the Hamiltons. The great train wreck system as well. They they buy at auction and they also have home. Breads like pass the plate. She's on the Hamiltons Temple City philly out of a great notion mayor which Hamilton's raced great notions. So it's a true. True home. Brand of the Hamiltons but yeah we're Nice village. She is her win. Team was was awesome and then she wanted to one extra. Churchill grants and just Was Awesome that day as well. We travel in the dirt in the silver bullet day at the fairgrounds and she actually ran a pretty good race. Fifth black the only beaten four lengths and then when we ran in Shantelle Henry Memorial We hooked an absolute monster. Rick stood in Philly. That's now I think she's five for five now coming up with the win on the grass at Del Motor and They made her either one to five or to the other day against the pass the plate and she ran like a one to five so to be heard. I haven't heard it was not about a disgrace. In my opinion about thirty pass the plate. She loomed large turning for home and just Just couldn't run down that heavy favorite. What's next for her? You don't work nominating her to a to the Bourbon net turf way which would be on the Pali. Ch- fairgrounds has more sixty grand. Or but I I don't know if that or not but I'd say late fairgrounds or Late Turf Way Omar. Possibly maybe even waiting on chemo weather. Excellent excellent pass the plate. And I'm just looking down at Some late last year is December seven. retired now he's GonNa pop back up at Probably keenum that's a that's a classy for Samantha. And Yeah you you'll see him Kenyans Dave. Now that's good. I mean he he was a stay course and Four wins twenty starts but Certainly one of those one of those kinds of geldings that you can try it out on a regular basis Nice I'm glad. Glad to see conditions and he's been struggling in the races. Just he's basically been running against all the stake sources at criminal trials. You know things come up tough. Goes eight climbers. The water gets really deepened. And he's just hadn't been competitive with them lately. Running at the keeneland Churchill the spring. I think he's going to be a very laugh horse again and let me ask you one more dominate. That was second in the inaugural and The mayor getting. She's she's gotTa be five. Six years old disappointed us a little bit and her stakes races at fairgrounds five and a half turf but yes she excelled on the Pali th that was our first time holly track in the race tough way and she got me heavy favourite also. That was the one to five shot that either. A feeling that's made a million dollars now But dominates very solid solid league and Were likely to run in two other. She's still two hundred and we're going to run her late. Seven and a two other than optics. You'll be tough to be. Well Paul. It always pleased when C- You have the kind of success. You had Yesterday of exciting way to start the stakes action at OAKLAWN. Go Google yourself that alert now. Just The you know handled Handled cleverly and point toward the apple blossom and we'll see you there that We'll see you there for the apple blossom at Oakland Derby Week like Ron Paul Magee. Everybody and The undoubtedly the more talented at better looking McGee brother. It's easy although although as was pointed out by our friend Nick Tamra. Oh Marty Marty did get the better hair yes. I'll give him that show. I love it Paul. Well done congratulations. We'll talk so sounds good. Thanks for having not. At all Paul Magee everybody at Samantha. Segel's go google yourself this intimacy if mayor that is building a hell of a resume and you know with all the night sources that that Paul's trait and and he's had as we kind of eluded to he's had good horses for years and years and it doesn't need you know as he explained doesn't need to have multiple streaks. It seems like he's always got at least one and she is She's got to be moving up the ladder with him because I think she's up to. What is she up to an earnings go? Google yourself after another hundred and so she's got six hundred almost six hundred and fifty thousand in earnings In in her career and decorous Paul's Paul's best ever was the wonderful bet on sunshine. The great sprinter that was third in two different breeders. Cup sprints both at Churchill. That's his all time biggest winner in in dollars and so here we go go. Go Go yourself. Sixth sixth for Mardi for Mardi for Paul In among his winning his stores has been on China million and a half swath great suave one point three million honor and war one point one million Woodford Reserve Winter Majestic harbor. The marcation ago Google yourself there it is. Let's break Jonathan Maldonado. He got his first snake win on Saturday races with Steve on Sirius. Xm radio develop by horsemen bills. 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Probably ten years from Puerto Rico and worked for some terrific horsemen and Has been out on his own. That's got to be. I don't know four or five years at least and the win by naughty thoughts in the wide country Kind of a breakthrough a Toledo aboard and Jonathan joins US Jonathan. Congratulations thank you. I could tell I could tell through through the magic of twitter that you you were really excited to get this kind of a of a win and there's a nice horse absolutely When you when you have these kinda horses resolve privilege to have you know and And she's a special fairly she's just she's really spectrum. She one off by A widening lancs and tomato. I mean just you could tell that he was loaded the whole the whole way and and just drew after this win and she had she had been third in a couple of She was I. Think of the Maryland million in the fall and she was third in the gym talking. Got You know what what put her over the top on Saturday. Well Gee was killed straining really awesome In the mornings We work we work at twice Both both of the workers was half mile. Forty eight freely freely on hand and the last one was. I gave an to lure. Galvao a stall and she. She did a really good Galloping how we impressed me and tells me that she was ready to roll tremendous tremendous and this one. I mean this was really a big performance. Jumps up to a career-best buyer eighty one in here. This was a Philly that you and Rafael Lopez claimed for twenty five thousand dollars. Take us back to November. Had been kind of watching this Philly and what? Why did you guys drop on her? We want to. I would want to claim she put it for sixteen And I go my Klein. He's got kind of BC person. He saw surging orthopedist import Riga one of the best In in my country and when I call him he was doing surgery so by the time that he went out the really was written by the way was ready when when he come out so when they put her back for twenty five We we decided to drop on her and I was surprised. I was the only one because I thought I was GONNA chat with a few people But the reason that we like to air is because if you see as the first the first thing they running hurt a lot in you know for two years old and He always was begin. Know One-two-three One-two-three show with the money and that Kinda hard as the one that I you know that I look to claim that it. It doesn't matter where they voted. She Gio with what's there and the Glamour and so far she's been great for us And fashioning or into I multiple stakes placed philly and Now a stake winner and being Maryland Bred. You get you know all the all the opportunities that that come along with with the state breads and you know your your base that Laurel AAH talk a little bit about leaving Puerto Rico because you had a big stable at Kamara Yes When I decided to to move to Tomorrowland to United States I was trained in a bunch of horses for a a group class. But the Mani Wilson gooding often for regal anymore so I was John and and and I go my brother which live here in Maryland. My brother eye oldest brother and I asked him WanNa I wanna go to Tomorrowland To start training data but my plan was star with somebody like as an assistant start from the bottom because I will learn. I want to learn the system here. It was a little bit different than than Perico. So client from Dominican Republic Samya hearts and I and I started training. Warhorse in boot Louis when I was when when it was opened and prone there Human banks start to bring horror for his own after school lane laugh and he hired me system trainer developer start to doing good and then for me on the job of assistant three in her and I trained and I and I I was Wareham for two years and we win two years in a row. They'll meet here in Maryland A top trainer sheriff years and From that point on you know you know back and forth with a few horses training but also I I was some for reliever three games and mice feed him and now I'm three and four on and you know I've been clement. You know really good. Horses keep forces that game improved them like Ray Souprayen. I can watch them I think clock Mon- plumbing deep-rooted good for me And now decline Gave me the opportunity to train his horses and we claimed his fairly. And so far. You know thank God you know. We've enjoyed pretty good. That's for sure I a couple of questions about about the family and about how you got into the game was your brother. Was your older brother here. Was He involved in Sport and does your family? Do you have a family background in horses Not at all my only the the my oldest girl he likes horses and Mike and Perico. My grandmother used to do battle horses and stopped but nothing like working directly with the horses But my I got another brother. His name's Joel Maldonado That he's my assistant trainer. Here in Maryland He started working in the horses in Perico groom. He's older than me and I did interesting. I was going with him to the bar and That's that's when I get the feeling that I I like this. I wanted. I wanted to something. Why would they start to train horses in Berea when I was seventeen years old? Oh and then when I moved here to the United States I'd Ra- my brother with me and seems down. We're being here together But you know other than that. We don't have like a background from family that he's been working out of the race. All my my my Bra Emmy that's tremendous It's great and of course You know things things in Puerto Rico. Still trying to recover from the hurricane and and the racetrack Just the awful situation The people that you left back and Family House. Everybody Fared Jonathan so far you know after the year again I I flew to Puerto Rico because I got a daughter which she's eighteen years old at and boy that he's nine years old and I got my. My father is still there And I went there. But so far you know they. These are good It was it was really tough when I after the Huracan. Because you know if something that you don't that you can see in bdo same stuff that what is happening but it's another thing when you're there and you see the real thing so far you know then we're good now. We got there the no problem with Earthquakes and stuff so far you know go remains is trying to help everybody so far you know you feel month. We we. We said again. Now the other part of of this with the kinds of horses that you must have trained in Puerto Rico the opportunity to pick out horses with potential in this case picking two year old and claiming them for twenty five thousand. And then you know kind of getting a chance to work. You know work with with a young horse. You're obviously proving. I mean if people give you good stock You can you can do well with them absolutely you know. I don't like I said I'm not that kind of person to goal honor since draft for horses and the like that But I start three horses when I was seventeen. And and my first and he wasn't like fire or six or seven of forty horses. Proably lost twenty twenty something of them. They were babies. So I know the far you know working with babies and the claiming game so I've been on both sides but you know it is what it is I just I got on however dinning rolling and eventually if it happens in. Somebody gave me the opportunity. You know believe me I will. I will go war heart to two houses sad but His gang stopping Maryland is no easy to win. You know you gotta run really good trainers in here And grew horses than any stuff to wing here. But if you have the the the the horses you can win races well this is. This is a philly that feels like you know. She has got upside yet. And another part of this. We should bring up naughty thoughts by the factor and out of the indie mayor sweet thoughts. This philly should should keep stretching out now to tell you that through our love to see her going on to turns minus Sixteen Miles Inc. I WanNa get just gone one. My flat But I think the loan the funny thing about this really. She can go any of these things. So far. You know chicken go short or long. I WANNA the're going through turns because I think she'll be better now she she was absolutely terrific On Saturday winning the wide country and obviously tomato. You you get along well with heavy on He's a really great jockey He lives ask. You know he's really smart. You know you don't have to be a lot of instructions to hang. He knows the failing and man it was. It was shot. Excellent thought of the He he he's a great man. I was I was really happy. THE WAY. Reuter and I was I was glad that that that he made the move when he was to make them move. So I gotta give him credit because jv enemies are really really good jogging now and clearly You're getting the horses. Ready Yeah Forum. Jonathan congratulations best. Wishes for continued success? And clearly. You you've already shown over the last few years That you you can win and you can pick out a horse and patch them up if that's what's necessary or build them up In the case of this three year old filly. It looks like there's great upside. Thanks so much for the visit. Thank you and thank you for having me not at all Jonathan Maldonado who you can follow on twitter and Clearly there's there's something happened in here and this Philly you know who had look. I said that on Friday and She paid paid nice paid. Eighteen twenty first stake win for Jonathan Maldonado. Well done we'll take a break. Top of the hour is here and going to check in with John. Pirata we told you in the opening that Bob quickly passed at ninety. And you say to yourself well ninety except that this kind of came as a as a surprise and although Bob had had some kind of had some complications a couple of years ago I had not seen him. I did not see him last winter but I saw him several winters in a row Bill Hirsch and Mary Ryan have those wonderful dinner parties and and restaurant gatherings and have them for years five or four or five of them a winter and it was always A treat and I I can remember sitting vice time. I saw was sitting next to him. In fact at At Cafe Talia the one in in Boca. And it's just a fascinating guy to talk to. You know you done so much. It basically built the meadowlands for sunny warbler. Who tapped him? He had been running admittedly at Atlantic City and then when garden state was rebuilt. Bob Brennan tabbed him to start garden. State I mean he's just was amazing guy and influenced a lot of people's careers in the game. John Parole joins US next to talk about. Bob QUICKLY APPLE WITH STEVE VIC on Sirius. Xm radio what's going on. Mike and I'm going to tell you about an offer for my good friends at express bet. Let's be honest. 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PART 2 : Ed DeRosa

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It's all and Ooh they don't okay saw the news from the Godolphin team yesterday but thunderstorm is as you can tell where this was headed. thunder snow is not going to be able to participate in the Breeders Cup and you you just with with all the delays and and not being involved it in the you know in the campaign that they were hoping for him so they ah the word is that he'd been sororities hoping that they'll let him go on with under snow as soon as he's ready to resume training and that could be campaign that involves the Winter Carnival Bolton Dubai and another go why not put the at the World Cup so too bad thunder I though thunder snow certainly wormed his way it's a lot of people's uh parts and so forth Johnny Johnny de Rickaby Laffy. We'll see Johnny tomorrow tomorrow at Philly well. We're having hammered hammer texted me and so I don't know what exactly yeah he needed back about fifteen minutes ago. He needed a couple of minutes before we could reach him so Maybe what we'll do. Instead is go in this direction and let we'll try to flip flop Rosa for instead all right. Let's try that everybody the the typical go ten o'clock second our people they they all backed it up and wanted to go in the third hour tonight for whatever reason it happens a a couple of pieces. I can slip it as well. We'll save that for Hammer. The obvious saw this after the discussion we had about last week about the jockey club proposing placing caps on the books of bears that stallions could cover the news came yesterday. Jockey Club is signed on a what seems like a very interesting company from I did did this morning actually just a little bit of poking around and plus vital limited their Irish and and they are genome specialists and they're going to I guess on an ongoing basis I it wasn't like they commissioned them for a study or for a certain consulting they they're going to basically stay stay on with this project and help with research and offer insight on this topic Dr Emma Line Hill and and I am certainly looking forward to having a chance to reach out to them and to Dr Hill because I as I said with those conversations you know all last week that we were we were talking I thought thought that this is just fascinating. What the the effect on the breed and and you know the inbreeding versus how cross and so so forth so the Doctor Hill appears 'cause I I said last week I said do you know of any buddy in that arena and the Jockey Club went out and found found somebody so also the news front you may have seen headlines about the aw Massachusetts thoroughbred Horseman Association sending out a press release about a project in Rowley Bass which is sort of a kind of middle of nowhere in Massachusetts? It's it's a that's a part of the it's part of the state that nobody nobody really nobody really. I don't know how anybody from Raleigh but yeah it's up toward it's just outside of Hazel and and up toward you know up toward the corner toward Maine and New Hampshire north of you know well north of Boston and north of the Cape but I don't read too much into this the proposal at its very well intentioned but it you know that that thoroughbred this Massachusetts Thurber Horsemen's association is really a non. It's really a non entity that it's really not the the negotiating the authentic Massachusetts who sits policeman so this this is not the this is not going to go anywhere essentially essentially and there's ED derosa standing. Hey Good Morning Good morning excellent excellent ah I expected to talk to you in about half an hour but we'll take it out air I am. I appreciate the early bird when I'm at the traffic. No sweat here sure well. We just talked to James so usually I break you guys up but a couple of the top couple of the topics what's that we hit with James to what was your impression at Dennis's moment and how does he. How does he jump at era? Yeah I'm impressed. I tried to beat them. just happy and honest you know I just thought it two to five or three to five wherever wherever he ended up being you you know maybe given the gate issues and mile and a sixteenth positions important to Churchill. There's worth taking a shot I was impressed with the professionalism I still don't think we've seen from him quite the the speed performance. You know. We're like wow this is fast is we've seen in a while. I haven't seen that from him but the professionalism in that effort I thought was impressive. I I was watching. I read pretty closely especially on replay and he he just seemed to respond to every q i read gave them including. It's the end Iran pretty much shut down on them and he was still running but that was my impression is like man you know this is a horse who can handle a ship to the West Coast Breeders Cup and as we go down the Derby trail oh you know bigger crowds and fuller field so I I was left impressed with his mind still waiting. You know I think for all the Buzz I think we're saying okay. When are you going to be really fast and we haven't seen that yet but knows he has a rocket ship so I'll be interested to see how his training lead up to the Breeders Cup and of course the runner up to we talked yesterday that he can easily at a very excited about what scabbard did in there and you know for for horses that were making making a transition to to turns that that was what you WanNa see agreed and and I go back really to is since debut which was Churchill well he he sort of made that chandelier move which Churchill can be a an absolute punisher horses they look like they're looming up on the outside around the turn and they just flat out and Hang the rail can be very kind in those situations and on debut he ranged up and then just kept on going and and blue by so that's another horse where you know when you look at what he's done is a is a two year old as exciting as you know the performances themselves so their Iroquois very likely to have a say come breeder of time yeah I I agree and it'll be fun is then get through the west coast and the East Coast also the Woodbine two year old events and then you start shuffling the deck and Mixing and Matching Coaching and that's that's when it gets interesting what any other observations from the weekend woodbine or otherwise I mean I'll say I'm not sure my my tweet with the trainers at Church oh but the parody there in the barn area absolutely incredible which of course a testament to the condition both Ben Huffman's put together for these big purses but we've had thirty nine races Steve what forty winners because there was a dead he and thirty four individual trainers that one those forty races enter the first four days of the me now trainer has more than two wins with which I think is incredible and you look at some of these names probably not to foreign to those who follow the Kentucky Circuit for years but it makes handicapping these races exciting knowing that you can look beyond the obvious name pains and that's no slight on that and they're fantastic horsemen and their leaders in the barn area for a reason but you know to to see you know a Tommy bamber come I'm in with the layoff horse and win and others drawn a blank but just you know names you know right there with all the other thirty four has it's been a tree so looking for more that says the meat wines down and I actually I've? I've got the winters book I got the winners book here and I had I had not seen that tweet but it is it is intriguing and you look between the invaders and you know having being you know having guys like George Paraffin and Peter Miller wind guys like that that are that are coming in from other parts of the country Stanley Hof had then you've got the the locals but I mean virtually everybody you could imagine randy. Matthews Chris Hartman David Vance heel-pass West Hawley Red Dog Gary Hart Lidge the Romans you mentioned Van Berg Randy Moss does that does that to Mandy Moore Snow Randy Matthews and Randy Moss Jason Barclay Polo Logo uh-huh getting in the act of my I love it. I Love Paula. Local had all the way back to Vigo Steve Hobby so we gotta get hobby in there. I love it. Catman Catalano Catman has got one of those horses that he talked about the show was that last week I think think last week early last week we wait. I'm pretty sure that I saw one of those Gary. Mary West sources that he hinted. He said he had a a bunch of two year. Olds that we're going to start to run the last third of the year he excited the golden down then so ah see him pretty much every live race day and do has hinted that you know not not all of them runners but you know watch out so we'll oh definitely be looking for him and and things are a lot more fun when he has a couple of good ones in and he trained way back three man. I one of my personal favorite so I I was just off soft spot for the conditions conditioners some of your babes well. Let's let's dive in Ed and go where wherever wherever you want to start I'll start today because I I like a bomber speaking of you know maybe some some trainers people aren't familiar with it but genevieve Llano when in the fifth grade which is just a ten thousand maiden claimer number can she wants more fifteen to one on in the morning line. this one dropping in for a little bit and I'm really intrigued that cow main stage aboard he wrote this Philly Alice and entry. Just you know kind of just ran ran a race but I noticed the second and third place finishers from that main rates both came back to win there was a race gestured as that a bomb won a maiden race that fell ten and I really didn't have much even after the race positive to Japan down the horse so that you know how did this get by me at thirty two one but out of that terror rates I did notice that the second and third place finishers had had one so I'm GonNa pay just pay attention to maybe some key maiden races for the younger horses that are dropping int- and face better horses yeah they run their race and maybe the drop wake just one outfit fifteen to one with Miguel main stain afford. That's number ten in race five five Churchill. That's that's a very legitimate answer and and you know there's also the it's sort of that ongoing that ongoing phenomenon we see with what's happening in Ohio where you had the you know the trickle down effect from the gaming courses follow money and better horses have gotten into the horse population and you're seeing in the fact that at places like Laurel and and Charlestown this weekend in particular I I saw more and more horses last race that this'll down and I would be very aware of these kinds of and you know we've discussed this as well in our conversations with Dick Powell about press kyle and places that course players Mentally Salihi may may have certain there may be a certain fog of negativity and sort of an impression an ongoing oppression Russian. We get this New York ed where finger lakes horses come to Saratoga or downstate and you instantly think well. It's finger lakes camping. I it's gotta be inferior. Go very tread very lightly on that because better and better horses are running in Ohio and then they're going to they're going to do well in Ohio and in fact that altissimo is is is is exporting out of Ohio Bread Company for the most part art actually beat open company last time and I'll t c Mo a horse you know that this weekend is showing up in mixed company and could be very much a player so I don't don't let don't let old tropes and old thinking about circuits in basically cloud your judgment agreed and you know I think someone's to the secrets out. At least you know among the people I talked to do seem to bring it up every year but you know press kyle especially those horses they're shipping to Keeneland are not to be discounted and we we know that you know guys like Jonathan. Sheppard and Graham motion and others are not shy about making the trip from fair girl the press style you know they're they're looking for certain condition condition or and or the Tampa Bay they come to keeneland and do well even in the post poly track era and you know about terrorists definitely a player for Kentucky players. 'cause we see those horses obviously at turf win the winner that they come in Kim London and we saw Churchill yesterday and you know the main track there for Ohio so I would say probably has better main track horses day to day about terror. Is Your only option in Ohio and you know guys. Who Do you know maybe WanNa get a race and I've even seen Wesley worship some two year olds up there so yeah the Turpin fell terror? I'm not GonNa make that mistake again right after got survey job good that was that was a good aside all right so today with Miguel main. I'm for and the ten in the fifth us. He's he's the greatest and a big personality the ten she wants what's more in the fifth today. Churchill Fred all right. Let's talk about Saturday's action and I suppose Philadelphia gets us going can start park drive a dogwood tab as well but no problem start power to other the catoon and and I'm one of these sometimes questions needing a restricted grade one tree or this late in the year but all is forgiven when you're able to put it feels like this together I mean this. Is You know other than I Columbia Road but you're never gonNA get them all. this is the field you ought to sort out this division and I'm GonNa go with the oaks winner you know maybe a little bit of a home or play but it just seems what's her and this you know sort of eight and a half for a long race and with the other the obvious speed on the outside. If if Iran reiter appropriately I think she can run the from the outside offer feet and then maybe you have enough to keep on a then Parana made me look foolish the ACORNS so I'm perfectly prepared for that to happen happen again but she will be the favorite Steve and you know here's a chance where we can you know two three times the price on a Kentucky oaks winner who granted it's not wonder last to but also would be impossible to say. She's done anything wrong either so with the price I'm Gonna I'm GonNA STICK WITH THE O. Silly and love the connection indeed easy to root for her owners from Columbus and just you know horse. I like to cheer on as well but things you've been here at the eight and a half so yeah I like it all right. What about the Derby the derby super compelling well? Unfortunately I'll be so you know with the the big maximum-security out who who I would pick to be honest I do think he's the best this group but he's out in now's a chance for someone else to jump up and I think think jump up could come from spun Iran's Mister Money certainly is done nothing wrong in his assent has been magnificent to watch. I've been there live for two of his races with maximum security out. I think he'll he'll be right there. With war. Then improbable is a favor and I think now's a chance the jump in and Spun Doron whose Smarty Jones got a one ten personnel speed rating and and I have not checked out so what do you got on some of the more designer figures earshot. I'm guessing we were probably a little higher than others on that but nevertheless that signals some real talent and we won't get eight to one cause maximum security the Dow but it's the that they should we lose. I think we lost. We lost lost their minute Ed. I picked fun to run in the Pennsylvania Derby that yeah that that part that part we got I I didn't I didn't get all the rationale no but I can certainly I can certainly understand what what do you. What do you think of this scenario? What do you expect to happen? I mean I'm the the pace ratings the person that puts out it's conceivable even that Mr money could be on the front with you know little further outside of improbable and war. Will I just think think based on what we've seen. In how train this horse they liked the target so I'm really interested in the cat and mouse and we know that Mike Smith not afraid to take race excuse people if he thinks he can war will certainly with what we saw on the previous figures to be forwardly placed so I kinda WanNa pot and just say I think that's part of what makes this such. A compelling race is these horses have shown some professionalism to ray even though they have the speed to go on with it so I I meager to see how that plays out yesterday in an extensive conversation Steve Asking Steve made the the logical point about the way baffert operates in a situation like this and how how how likely it would it would be for Smith to take control and and just go and and because he's going to absolutely depending on how the how the and how parks is playing I mean typically the inside is never good place to be but there have been years Pennsylvania Derby Day when the when in fact the inside has been okay so they'll judge that and I imagine that that they at least go get position Titian and we'll see you know we saw Smith who to do with the Kinsey in the eligible no in the Whitney okay the way in which the way in which he gained early position let horses go on and then came around that might be the plan with improbable but you know what Gates has does with a horse that just went fifty eight and one recent work. Mark granted he did it. He did it so effortlessly. it just feels like Mr Money is almost certain to break running thing and then it comes down to what Gaffe Leone does with Worrell well it. That's the intrigue and this is. This is an example of a situation situation where you don't necessarily need twelve horses Ya got you got five major horses here even without maximum security purity who would have been six. You've got five horses and it's going to be really interesting. How they go out of the out of the gate? You know I absolutely and you know good good on power. So we've heard a lot of promises from a lot of tracks about the type of horses they could get ah with expanded money and and in this case they absolutely now they've lived up to the hype with what they've turned this day into on this part of the calendar under and to your point about you know you don't need twelve horses this time of year you know for better or worse. Etcetera naturally want twelve horses because we get to see code Arnor in the Jockey Club which you know is getting to be rare trees seeing some of these horses take on older on that stage which is an an extremely worthy stage for any horse so it's good to spread out maybe this time you're obviously fulfilled or desired you know more up in the not but in this case terms of separating the division this is what we're left with this year and make the next few weeks really citing well and this has been a race and it's not it's not like this race has not had big fulfills historically be they generally. It's generally been a bulky size field. The be an honest I mean I was. I was so high maximum security. I kinda understood why you know with him. Pointing to this race that they didn't so you know get fillers and then he came out and whatever but I mean the way Mr Money and improbable been running the summer you yeah I get it well and this is also the time of year that you go back and you pull up the charts from from the triple crown. Perhaps the big great one perhaps in and from the triple crown itself and you begin to also say to yourself you know where where did some of these horses disappeared too well. I'll I'll give you a horse. Where's spinoff spinoff won that race at Saratoga and then he's been rumored for everything since and he's nowhere where is he took a good question? I don't I mean there's there's there's a whole bunch I mean we know about we know about the top end of of that chart but yeah there's quite a few that ended up you know on the sidelines we we know we're taxes and so forth and and you know Tacitus Code of honor you just referenced but we think here here's the Derby field country houses is done for the year game winner now done for the year master fencer went home plus get Parfait Win Win win cutting humor by my standards for coma boaty Audie Express roadsters kind of a reappearing here and there long-range Taty spin off a grey oriole great magicians gone on and been fine He's had a good second half but you know there's there's there's there's six derby horses that basically have been laid lied that are sitting by the side of the road with a spare tire yeah well hello part of the front of the Golfer. Meat is the reemergence and Santa Anita with the West Coast sources but yeah some of these horses especially from the prep season that didn't actually make the Derby Kinda you know not ready for prime time and speaking of which it's been on my mind since you mentioned family recruiting ready of the Horse I remember watching the two year old year class that was classic Empire Coming Out Party. that that was in assimilating upper here ranted against allowance company but the seasons that horses had you know that that's one of those you kind of reported to the big ones sooner rather than later Deja Deja. WHO's working the board? She's she just pitched in with chocolate Martini on the other. I decided to ledger but that's a good question. What did Chocolate Martini disappeared too? She ran then after they. Oh so I don't know I I've lost track of a we'll have to we'll have a question for yeah for all right. Good one DEJA Deja. was that a phone call or or was that because that came out of left Field Indiana oh I can't I don't recall actually that was Deja that that was was her favourite horse from the first half of the year for you. I love the Ano- so I I do like three plan in the you too and obviously pick Sharon getty empress on top but I think you know looking at Matt eight to one range street bands the the horse to get into the number so you would you james both landing on street band so yeah and she's I think she will be around eight to one and you know that's one of those rose where were on a street band. Can still you know maybe get an overlay pricing attacked. what else any others last one will be the dog would hear Churchill Kovac obviously eating introduction avedis Darren getting verse lasts out but I I'm really intrigued by e the and cutting back champagne anyone think that's kind of a cagey move for him and you know horse to WHO's had had had some buzz around her. You know especially coming into into the okay so I'm I'm interested in that cutback here all right on on on number power she's got. She's got to improve but I get it. She certainly the other you know. She's certainly the option so we'll see what what the board says. I actually was surprised to see four to one on the morning line. I thought you'd be a little higher after last so we're at the board dictate well Ed. I appreciate it big really thought weekend. They told the James the racing at Churchill has been excellent already and it continues today tomorrow and Sunday and then into next week so we'll catch up soon good luck this weekend all right. Thank you all your listeners. have some fun this weekend. EJ Xt to add durose everybody. Let's take a break here and then we found hammer and there was clearly telecommunication mysteries at work but he's ready to go rick angrily joins US next

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PART 1: Dick Powell, Jeff Bloom

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Then certainly that is the difference for a lot the people on saturday with chance a lot losing that that photograph and getting caught so and if that is the case that's what happened well the romeo in the amsterdam asking a lot of a lot when it wasn't necessary and then being not necessarily in the best part of the track did did not did not distinguish himself really in these two visits on a horse that is obviously the <hes> super talented so i'm anxious to hear i gave a lot of my thoughts yesterday as we talk to show again and greg sacco and carlos martin that was another part of of this discussion that what would have happened if if come dancing had broken sharp you know from essentially the inside and instead had to circle the field saturday next couple of days as between between andy and matisse deck addicts very good with with this stuff he he's a highly highly focused on track condition but it it has been the i think if we can declare it the the summer of the debt rail and i i it how many years have have all been playing saratoga at coming here and watching if even if you've never been you don't have to come here to observe but have we ever had this discussion saratoga dead rail never i it's it's one of those in one of those things that you know the weather patterns and the the way the trackers groom did just that sometimes you know the track maintenance canned. Even you know they they can sense it but sometimes there's there's just no way to without digging the track up and laying the christian back down dick is good. I think is great with us. Let him get his thoughts in jeff. Bloom is gonna join us speaking of midnight be zoo. We'll get her schedule. Joel and her plan a quite quite a few particularly. The sprinters seem like they're going to take time off and it's funny historically. That's always been a formula for success for sprinters taking. If there's one area the breeders cup where you can come in fresh it's on the sprint side and the two turner's they're going to. They're going to go on with it as it were and so we'll we'll get geoff blum steak. I reached for jeff because we we talked to steve aspen last week so let's give let's give jeff a chance. What a what a season what six unbelievable seven for seven or sixty six whatever undefeated for this calendar for this general join us a little bit john white as well. That's sad news. 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We're back into our one on this tuesday and addict foul joining us. We're going to talk a little presque isle in a minute but <hes> i wanna i wanna get dick. Steak on the attract bias discussion because dick is famous for his meticulous recording of you and jim cordes. Who's who's more more who's more obsessive about track maintenance. You're koren's coins right. Chords is crazy crazy. When it comes to that he he he has famously remember that one. I'm so bad i'll take a picture of this fact of going around and i'll send a talk. There was well when when frank was was the driving everybody crazy with his with his mercurial attract superintendent methods and jim. Jim was like he was like he'd come into the trailer capital tv. You see what he's doing. The one you see what he's doing now. He's he's cross raking and he's back raking and he's pretty funny. I drove of credit cards nuts or a lot of it occurs between ten in the morning after training and twelve right and that's nobody scraping the railway. That's when they'll be doing these type things so they're. They're by the time you get to the track. What out and you don't see what's been done. They don't do it then in training but that gap in between a couple hours and see them scraping and that would have done it so it is. It's helped her. I think it's one of these things that in the grand scheme of things you probably better off not even known every time it helps you. You might over edon hurting you that there are trends that are heaven seems teams. I don't think we've seen any real bed rails per se but i think the inside has not been the place to be as compared three pat sauce and then so that was some of the right is that even when they make complete. They're not hugging around. They're making sure they're well off of a bit and <hes> it makes it difficult because with grandma's grandma is not always a bad thing beurre animal kingdom on the dirty heavy winter that day was out in the middle of track smile won the breeders cup classic abbvie win on derek factual. Every one of them was positive all out in a minute track and that's what was <hes> so we've got those has extreme on day-to-day basis. You got kinda. Dependency your insights not the greatest but you will see a <hes> dominant chance what i thought what happens you got away with a lot of it and and having press the pedal title down and use that energy to get up and secure his position <hes> might have been the difference at the end of the race when he ran out of the best seventeen psyche psyche got beat on crystal ocean and japan random down in in the last phone and he said my horse show so much energy in the beginning and that's what i need to finish so even something like that can catch you and says chance chance arrive inside the trip. He gets caught. <hes> had to extend energy. Yesterday can solely specialists in post one but some go to go. You just can't say i'll. I'll start to that so that kind of pasta. Go probably use up just a little bit too much energy. <hes> i bought i was going to be fast of of the seven longer is instead. It was regular stallone's twenty point zero <hes> chance lots first one in twenty one which is pointed fast after seeing the first seven songs think on twenty twenty the other would go justice. Has travelers want him to one very very good time. You know when you consider the ground loss on the second half of the so called it on so first second half so you wanna get clear than one anyone in his wagging china the also johnny had had steered him out to the middle of the you know more or less than middle on the backstretch and new you know not to not to wait if he was going to do an inside outside trip not to wait until the second turn to do the to do the feathering out i as i said to show yesterday for those of you that might have heard the the shook visit this morning or yesterday or whatever john potter or archive when when the chick let's popped up dick on the on the backstretch and you saw the the two with with spacing on either side. I thought this is this is ideal and and you know i it was so easy to the to see that green cap and actually <hes> in terms of the call larry comas picked him up at at just that's the appropriate time you could see on the turn that you know that he was mowing them down and gaining position but <hes> <hes> john. It's funny how johnny and i may have come up with you last week. You know how it was apparent that johnny was you you know has awoken from a first-half meet slumber and you know the winds and big winds coming in bunches and that trip up to california. You've been contributed to it so you day for for the hall of famer and for should ah you can't you can't say enough dick and you've certainly watched his career unfold. I had this conversation with john era yesterday off the air and with <hes> who else with hammer as well we talked about this and i'll bring it up up with sid tomorrow. It should should is in getting the top sellers at at the yearling and two year old and training sales you know he gets the occasional purchase from some of the some of the other the small group of other clients that he has these days but for years and years he basically has had to play the hand that the home breeding program of phipps janney was dealing him and for him to fashion hall of famer after hall of famer and churn out the winters that he has it. It's really a testimony to his brilliance. At just. I think a lot of ways that if it's possible that that show is underrated in in today's training landscape yeah it's a perfect team because shoppers patient and and the owners of the patient so if you've got a horse that matures early like a code veronica one i out just mr champagne <hes> canoed classic trail and it seems able to perform under those circumstances what everyone mrs when you're training home bred horses you have gone to a yelling salem picked out the best one. You're getting the ones that those ask produced and some are better than does obviously with you towards personal ones and things like that which always have that aren't well conformed and how problems or whatever it might be and so it's not as easy as it seems than than to go to a sale and five good colts and you're able to buy two of them. <hes> i think it's the program kind of urban turf and what i was always curious code of honor being liam by noble mission and her brother. The frankel is that as let's say ran bad and the derby. Would we see them in the belmont that what would you switch over to perth with that pedigree and he ran. I put him in great his <hes>. I know a lot of people said you can't komo quarter. Look the stretch of their first of all. It's a screwed up tracks. I can off messiah came on after titans it all right all right okay right next to him and even if he'd been headed there was just like that the worst possible time <hes> intimidated whatever you wanna call it and i thought lebron great food stretch what i like some that point on as shove an old school training on the new school circumstances seats backed off one to a mile and i always like one time mile races 'cause they get instead of anything else because you're runs dry for the most part the gate so he wins the door very convincing roy. No jim ben from the prep trains them up to the right so so the also apart is just prepping hall mile two mile and quarter. The new school is the amount of pine between racists which i'm not crazy about it but that's the new school so shunned. I just had a time to personally just like he wants to avoid outside of a workout before that i guess is brilliant and <hes> when when they became in the paddock she got to be one hundred pounds. Watch and wait and any of its rivals no easily not he's tiny. He's not he's. He's pretty darned small sea stallion potential but we don't wanna call pint yeah but by then he is he is noticeably smaller than the others and mike things always been going a mile a quarter. Why do you want on all that size and weight. You go to go to attract me but the big the big kids on running the mile. They're running nine hundred hundred and two hundred so he looked all of us came in the paddock well-behaved <hes>. It's a nice cool day sort of no excuse to be harder sweaty or anything like that. They all seem to survive the walkover which you know that that's quite a lengthy walk over to go through to get there and that can keep up but they all walked in all the great mobile mobile mention code ivanovic donald gregg and when he finished the race. If you just looked at the picture you'd say <hes> what was it. A sloppy track was buddy that ah yes he was pretty well coated as whole chest and everything and that makes call so for larry to call the race with this late in the summer and the sun starting to set in the west common right across the track and you see orange covered with covered with mud and stuff it. They're hard to pick out they. They kind of blend but he was in that. Try and you just fantastic. You certainly the best one that just showed us today. It was like going to a diner and sitting next to show talking to robbie about plans and it was fantastic. I did something that ninety nine percent of interviews never learn how to if you want you got the person to talk show up violence the best motivated to get people to speak well and he's awesome of you interview member spencer ross. Oh sure i need to do that used to be his show the johnson and sam burston on on the harness those in saturday night so why am i got the international trotter. I think it was roosevelt and stan was famous aspen. That's an question answering the question and then basically do agree so find sky went through the national as usual and stan though assertive circumnavigation question about this not everything else and let me answer this question and then he basically said you agree so some guy translator translated into french word perfect person and the driver's side well i i i get excited the talk to show and when in this particular with this particular set of events it almost i don't want to say that almost fell preordained ordained but all summer all spring into the summer we we were talking the thirtieth anniversary of sunday silence and easy goer <hes> just so happened i was involved in that fund raiser at the beginning of the meet with captain and we had the gala and you we've had suggested celebrating the saratoga season of easy goer and the whitney travers wins and you know that there was that at the beginning and so this really felt like a book and to to what was conceptual at the beginning of the summer and whenever there even when there's a famous hall of famer of shows that that passes this is a way and i always call him and let him just riff on on the career it. It's captivating because he's got. He's got such gotcha a a institutional memory of his horses and invariably he offers elements of the stories that have never been heard before that for one reason or another may never have come out and and so i'm happy to just you know tee it up and let him just talk out the what his thinking was along the way because it's always it's always captivating and he's a treasure <hes> <hes> and you know one thing that i did not get into with him and and i had thought about it on sunday night. Had you seen the new york's new york works they gaming commission vetinary reports well they go online for the big days like this yes and every horse every horse had had some modest treatment leading leading up to saturday except code honor. Nothing zero was was obviously louis coming into the race in one hundred percent perfect order and i'll go back to what i said friday he shook was there is a few horsemen show bill maher. You can just tell when they're when they're brimming with confidence about how their horses coming up to a big rice and sugar was i mean he was sky high. Come in at the saturday and one thing i liked about him about quota. As the mega mission aspect the silver franklin i think there's a mile and they stretch them out to monitor that has bestest since probably in between <hes>. I think that has not replicated themselves. Shorts brings the remarkable cycle is how as offspring wanna run all today one of mine that you might see some in the saint regimen a couple of weeks. I mean they're just stamina oriented and so with noble mission doesn't worried about anything pedigree was his ability to get the distance and it's also an interesting thing steve. It's one port so saturday when horses by not civically mature enough especially in his case it was the may twenty two so i think kinda got lost in the shopping but then months later under the tutelage of a great trainer you suit. She's tom good. Example came came back wanted to child is couldn't couldn't get the derby. Let the mind the colder months ota with maturity and spence is able to get it and i i just i i. I haven't mike money horses all meet that will perform the way. I thought he performed exactly the way. I thought i didn't think the race i would go the way when it comes. Positives going to the fun out of the game and setting up a little bit of a scramble that i didn't expect it probably tax the worst of its tax over the hawk starting second on studies little bit farther behind but well. You had to look at it bikinis. The stumbling start changed the complexion to that's a contributing factor. I wound up selling having lunch coach gianni de he told us yesterday he mentioned that i'm yeah he mentioned that yesterday your first your first <hes> <hes> series opportunity to the meat johnny yes. That's the outdoor pies on louis yeah yeah and not doing i mentioned of course nick and i go there and i was holding the table and liquids online so these two guys come at the sunglasses. I'm the who wants. That's like the wraparound dolphins and i said well these two taken benny over them. We realized to intiatives what sort of weaken played golf had a good time but <hes> yeah they couldn't have picked a better time to come up to set a target they can every year. That's it's their bets there. There's summer trip. They always come up for thursday friday saturday sunday evening talking just out of out of the titles and it's the best that's that's you know that's part of the appeal <hes> no doubt and overall deck <hes> before we talk <hes> before we talk presque <hes> overall a you know i it seemed like an idyllic killed me and probably broke a twenty five year run for me of consecutive travers but it seemed like a just an idyllic day for for everybody perfect sized crowd and and the racing couldn't have been couldn't have been better no no. It's everything everything went the way it was planned it was strong ah breeders cup day and <hes> trappings and and i i used to say this is to do their work doc network that volunteer that blooms and it's now but i used to be on these serotypes of panels to sort of move it open and always get these questions about someone come in with about this. I'd always so saratoga visit. Leap starts make starts nice vinyl wanna psomas star before he certainly is now and obviously starred shirley was mike smith the other one does that to start giving personal pot pies yeah. They're piling up honor the that's yeah that's that's what that's one of the things though that having having horses you know come through venue multiple multiple times. That's that's one of the real appeals i mean. That's what that's that's. What makes you know whether it's horses or whether it's the state itself. That's what makes it storied by having you know those kinds of confrontations nations <hes> to look forward to and then to have them actually materialize. That's the that's the best part <hes> and you know sometimes sometimes. It's a procession <hes> <hes> you know sometimes you know it's one horse dominating and and frankly that's what we saw in the travers but <hes> you know when you have that kind of shoulder shoulder to shoulder pair performances that that's just that's sends people wanting wanna come back. It was even though they're on different parts of the track before that hooked up is yup absolutely you know but the combative and battling litter bumping but stan lee didn't wanna give an attention. Someone came out on top but you see by the way suite. Linda rice had a horse and seven evans phone off the turf and could not have broken any worse voice. I can't remember the main and could not have been farther behind cyclic sydney them hardships but sit with was so far off the screen and then the check with starts catching up and catches up to the nine. She's caught up to the back of the pack and then just past the sources on the town swings stretch. I usually done all that work and then soups comes and then i guess the tribe had at nineteen months behind <hes> in the first the first one but that was i can't remember seeing those in oakland park. Shinde is a great horse would rally so much uh-huh sprints but this one the cell phone behind oh that was well. They've been getting the money or something like that gets up and ones. That was nasty affair. Okay yeah but that was that was what i guess. I guess she was out right out of the trump yeah. That was yeah last thursday that yeah that was nasty affair there. I'm almost positive the liaison state breads might not have been. I'd have been the best group tech as it turns out. That kind of sixty aren't they just just an aside. I think she said that trust and even so yeah pretty sure. I don't have a ton of them. Pretty shoddy noted that when i was looking at the horse yeah it's sex more days but it's been the i dunno fabulous going that's great horses and going into the paddock to see them up close and i tell people what it's like to live in town over the track on the friday and see the greatest take place sometimes during the week. I just go over and go get lunch. Go to the track season finds house in one state couple races just the whole day. That's having your backyard tree. It's as j apron says it's about del mar home game when when when the circus comes to town so another another they're six opportunities for everybody and i know lots of people got our one of our partners. <hes> tony monte nido tony always the last week he loves the the labor day week and and <hes> we got a little. There's a little iffy nece about <hes> weather wise late tomorrow <hes> but other than that <hes> it looks like we'll have we'll have a really good closing week and we've got wonderful two year old races that will shape up and <hes> that's really true or you know both coasts to <hes> we got the fraternities at <hes> debutante the hopeful spin away and also also the two year olds the on on the grass which is really become really become a thing and we look forward to that as well <hes> dick. Let's talk about what we're i'm looking forward to a out at erie and a little press kyle action. Okay <hes> just ask somebody was the last son that meets so now this next week. Go back to the third day we when they tuesday wednesday thursday so no press guy on sunday for the rest of the year <hes> tomorrow depressed guy mile and the mouth or enroll stakes close out there looking to enter those big big races. This is prescott run. I think on september ninth close tomorrow or this twenty eight so if you're horsemen attention to that <hes> on the last couple of days or interesting because pablo morales one too on sunday and phil last night so he has it's six in the last days he's cut by lead to seven reachable <hes> but it just keep that i am the shadow how good these guys are one hundred times says might be center their place at thirty two wings and typing opinion scott speed of seventy two wanting out in june thirty nine peanut thirty five few amounts so the two typewriters just continue to win in bunches and the numbers of south strong. I mean guy auto morales was number in second place would normally be leading just about any other seasons. Put the two of them and they're not winning against. You know they're not winning. Got expensive the other guy. They cheap one another expensive to run everybody else so yeah i i liked morales. I've always liked pablo morales and going going back to when he broke in and he was around new york a little bit and then he then he's since then he's traveled but i've always thought he was competent and capable you know he has them point six million in earnings out there. I know you're going to pay them and we rides purchase a good thing. Especially the snow closest stocks have been slow. It should be time and come up to invest in pennsylvania which is a vacation area and the nice weather which we live and you get to ride over to peter data so many horses going down in the region and stuff like that so for jockettes consistent businesses consistent the clients mending them come up in tampa in good with money trying to visors guy auto so then he's very good and the cincinnati trying to get asked a lot of south audience last week. It was ten when different this week. Seven ones among the trainers jerry books continues to dominate is thirty seven wins and fifty nine percent in the money. Ron pots is now tied theresa kind of second second twenty six and has the most money on the ball with china's because he's one pub quizzes and then john burke who's been hot. He had to the past couple of days he he's in fourth with twenty. Two women are twenty to thirty percents ten girton. When twenty-three dishonoring <hes> barron lottery does decide to son not cancers twenty nine cents the single it's trying to dan conway anway junior ships in and he's taken on the money he's winning thirty eight percent sixty nine percent of the money so a lot of lot of china's smaller type stayed stayed up very live horses and they continue to watch him 'cause might not see the name and the entry box day after day. Pop three and four coming into one is at a very very close. I'm coming to come into a couple of comments and not merely spots in the spots. Well you mentioned john burke and last last night the pop the nineteen winner a ah so if he's if he's if he's hot he he's necessarily getting getting better and i know you had you had a lot of short priced winners yes for the most part and <hes> to calmly with a pair with that that that payroll wins but a nineteen nineteen dollar winner in the fourth a burke yesterday raleigh alan won the first race on sunday. I'll put the wahlberg alan cost so they they combine for a lot of ones there and <hes> also deliver the nuances that you pick up with training jock and who's a who's alive linebarger for this training and stuff like that and allen 'cause certainly off start potsy us move of the government struck down you start saying chief ana garcia and senior ones for like twenty six percent writing for parks so you get these. I two seconds to go to guys and it's fun to follow because it's not worth stevens. I write i i write analysis on the on the prescott downs website and i do my pixel right from an hour so this is pretty good because there's all these angles to write about <hes> it's it's been. It's been had an interesting season and i do. I do sense here as they get down to the last couple of weeks it's been i got the sense that it's gotten a little more of a challenge to you know to keep the fields you know as close to full as as possible so it. It's that time of year where you know outfits will start to start to send horses out of town and get ready for their the next stop. I mean certainly here at saratoga. Was it was notable. I came over for t._v. On sunday and here it was some more secession cooled dowd from from travers day and i happened to see like four four a._m. On the grounds that were you know picking up horses and any number of them probably probably heading the key linden and back to churchill and so forth but you know it is that it is that juncture where we're outfit start to get ready for their next stop. Luckily parts now go back four days a week so through the things a little easier for the four living. We should hopefully resolve that. Keep you know keep that from happening to them. Well how about some. How about some action today tonight. <hes> speeds been doing really well and what's what's funny is. It's not tactical speed. The blowouts jocks have been sending an open. It up have been very hard to catch. I dunno it's that's a circumstance insult what it's been very noticeable so knowing that we're gonna win the race on the fire with somebody early races with the short fields and lower prices yeah. She's <hes> letter x. Number five number two pretty surprised jerry. What's leading trainer pablo morales divided up horse of course i think was a good third last time out of some backlash. I've been up and down the class lot but i just i i think some the rail not gonna make to leave but i think he said and save ground and then hopefully aroused can find something in the stretch. This wants to go on sex sirloin so five climates so we'll go with number. Soon pretty surprised race. Sex are like a christ said number five oxley gap. This is the dan conway junior shipped from here or fifty eight in change breeze of single tribes teed us at the second time <hes> on july twenty twenty second and opened up a big lead before we can wait only got the the length that day <hes> ran against optional ten now moves into open allowance are open while racist on very deep so seahorses moving up and down in class and you just gotta go on recent poem and i think oxfam gap has the right money style where <hes> emmanuel diego who regularized of that hopefully can send us one and opened up a really see if we can hang on at ten to one morning line and race seven looks like a two-horse race between four and five i before is john books the status lower with wahlberg alan carr. I'm going to try to beat with ties silence sophia <hes> <hes> they're both very says we're going to be interested race to see who can beat who going into the first time but <hes> i think five has a little more little more class than before four and <hes> hopefully they'll walk. Can you the go start but i think these two separate themselves from the rest of the field they only did some just four probably will take a lot more money than the size so we will go to size so seven were the number to six dollars to launch on them aside. It looks like a tour five and four or five very nice. I'm looking ahead to wednesday edged as well happens to be a maiden special as the third seven horsfield six betting interests because there's a wayne rice entry but linda sending that hurricane hill who was a fast closing going back about three weeks that that fit biz gelding hurricane hill is going to be a short price for linda <hes> in there. I picked it <hes>. He went off at really long knots over here. Thirty seven to one <hes> drew outside purse friend rally didn't really threaten threatened still got up third three months fine. I don't know if that's his running style or just the tape that start got him away that i kind of trip but our team hell ships and and and <hes> and the ones twenty nine percent with a second time starter sorta thing improve off sir start and you've got a very well bred the dolphin horse number six taylor and all in cardi's than shipping dolphin horses over from arlington and killing that it's good to go sapper this is this is a ghost apper. Sorry yeah not tapped at one or the other night and very good looks like <hes> it's it's. It's you know when you have a nice stable like adele on nights and and you can take the advantage of i think they'll ship over the press kyle and get a couple of races and learn you know move move the educational process along not running for on nine thousand dollar purses but the horses getting a lot out of it and coming back down and everything else and saddam while were to ship over from chicago and owen is is poaching left and right we talked to him last week and he got taken down from the canadian derby up at the century mile and in fact they essentially mild the wrapped up their season and their inaugural season and a <hes> seem to seem to really please people were nice. Things were said about century miles and then now they're going over to the other to the sister. Track century downs but owen hardy is seems kind of born again and the very quiet for an extended period and it's funny because when i when i reach out for for a trainer and and i've got a lot of times less their numbers change i've got the record of our conversations and sometimes i'll be shocked you know at at at the length of time <hes> <hes> and i didn't even want to bring up the last time oh it had been on so he he's he's got himself some some nice horses again and losing the one that he went up to one that steak we talked about with him last week that <hes> fair maiden serve is her name the one the catcher glimpse so well one hardy doing okay won. Their third race. Sunday on house was <hes> popping out of a seeking to goal man. That's a half sister shoes. Were what steps side of that the oxy's. I'm trying to blunt. I even looked it up. Oh captured now the only ones who do you mean you. Don't meet them in arcos who you stay with. I don't want to spend two hours. Thank you happy happy. I got you know oh <hes> <hes> just starting out and yeah that that they that they loved <hes> in fact we talked. We talked about it with cassie <hes> in fact the running. They're running nice <hes>. They're running commercials for them. <hes> oh my gosh he was a bit of a he was a bit of a wacko. You have to do this deck right to uh classic empire well. No that's not often thinking of classic bar who then who's left nicer sky mesa that goes back. I know but he wasn't all colon. <hes> this this damn to him and she also produced. I <hes> i don't know how to pronounce makalintal mccollum for kanye by moving well well breadwinner for our on <hes> on sunday night here so yeah that that shipping over very live horses and usually going to you're tons and nine and jonathan sheppard either one or the other night. He's had a string last night last night he yeah and he's only had i think four wins but he has twenty something seconds and thirds wow so he was only like tape percent but he had all the places for the life. They're they're coming in running well. They just haven't been getting getting the wins that <hes> one. I'm sure that checks but we gotta. We gotta <hes> speaking of the go cover seventeenth okay so there's a full six weeks left right all all action time nice so good back back to serve as no more on the continue on mary good deck i appreciate it and we're also even even with the the the end in sight. Were also eyeballing. The start of the season at hong kong shot was ready to start art getting ready so we'll talk. Thursday sounds good all right. I appreciate it dick powell. Everybody will take the top of the hour break jeff absolutely going to join us john white as well eddie surly and more back after this in with steve on sirius x._m. 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Part 1:Andrew Hawkins

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Part 1:Andrew Hawkins

"Ford's with steve horse racing and becoming interviews. This is stupid keeneland a very good morning race fan serious to nineteen. Xm one sports zoned nights. Sixty four listening to sirius. Xm line and i had our website to the dot com and boy. Oh boy after putting up a video of snow the other morning at at home in upstate. new york. I didn't expect to come to this part of the world and be greeted with With a layer of of frost than ice on the car. That was something. I'm sure you saw anybody. That's been tracking the morning here at caitlyn and we prepare for breeders cup and i it was it was in the low twenty s and the track was the track was over and they had an extensive delay getting horses out here on the main track quite a few of the breeders cup horses spent the morning over on the The training track and others waited including some stars including mama's girl and swiss skydiver put up a little bit little video snippet of monoploy girl who really There's any number of the horses that We've seen already just just the you know even with the limited number that came out here this morning. That are certainly energized. From every perspective that includes being just ready and being keyed up for the biggest assignment in in a lot of their career. Not everybody's career. Obviously because there's horses trying for second breeders cup or making multiple breeders cup visits like whitmore but of course motto girl drying four of unique opportunity to win a second distaff. I in fact. I commented specifically on and laid out that field. And here she is you know seemingly poised not that it's going to be easy to say the least and virtually from top to bottom as we wait for today's draw five o'clock and apparently They're they're going to bang out It's going to be over in the sales two billion and it's not going to be a you know the kind of you know typical cocktail swirling affair that That most of the the big day draws tend to be but they're gonna dispatch fourteen fields for everybody and you can tune right in a pretty much everywhere. They they streaming on youtube and on their facebook page and write off of twitter and breeders. Cup dot com. So you'll you're guaranteed much much like everybody was amusingly commenting on on all the pre entry fields. You'll you'll have every Every opportunity to see the field assembled as they get together. And then you gotta wait you. There is there anything more annoying really than when it comes to breeders cup There's that period. Where they they draw the fields and and pretty much by the way everybody. I'm sure we'll touch on the this morning but it pretty much. Everybody that was planning on running in in their intended race is seemingly as an intended. I still There's a couple of juvenile turf sprint types. That i haven't tracked down and gotten final. that never got final word. but there's nothing there's nothing more eagerly anticipated Than the time at a call at six o'clock where those fields are going to be drawn and then waiting for your your p provider of choice. And and your and your figure your premium pace and and speed figure product thera- graph for us a time for the us as well and and everybody else waiting for them to be able to format the fields. And and then spitting it out so that you can you can do your printing work or do whatever it is. You're going do To get ready so obviously you know. We'll we'll touch. I'm sure on some of the fields. And what. I mentioned that distaff here. There's certain races that we already know. There's no there's not going to be a lot of mystery and there is intrigue of course when it comes to i think as i said last week filling in mayor sprint where the mean and sarah getty empress end up and how they line. You know those kinds of things when when you're talking about pace scenarios but when you know when you look at a at a race like the distaff and i'm gonna i think this morning i'm going to keep coming back brad. Free is traveling around. So we'll we'll talk to brad today. I've been looking forward to talking to him and getting his distaff coverage. It's kind of strange. I don i don't know and maybe it's just what i've read or or what what has passed across my. You know i screen but it doesn't feel like the staff is getting nearly enough appreciation Obviously the classic everybody you know talking about it and you know the the level of a talent top to bottom Well worth appreciating and in fact we saw tis the law this morning. Who's been here early. You know kind of counter. Move for barkley tag. Not his. you know traditional concept of coming in on a race and he was another horse like monoploy This morning that was was feeling good and wanted to wanted to do more. And then you can always tell when when those exercise riders in this case Have heather smooth on a has the the arms locked and and and you can see the strain in the shoulders and the bobbing. You know trying to hold the powerful horse. You know who wants to do more but isn't supposed to be doing more But you know the plus the cold weather the weather like this as we talk about at saratoga. During the summers the temperature goes from hot to coolish horses. Love it. they love that it's a. It's a rare horse that i prefer the the cold to the So there are a lotta orces. That looked like they were feeling good. Still gotta get. I don't have the. Don't have the saddle cloth number card and it was. It was two other years. They've had it as a pdf too. I typically will print it out. And so i don't i don't have it so there's a few horses and and my days i was never very good with The visual of picking off the names off the saddle. Cloth off the embroidery I was always marginal when my site was was good. So it's it's even harder now. So i doubt and nobody's worse with binoculars than i am. I can't i can't deal with them so It's not as easy for me as it used to be there just Glance over and at least take off a number. And tell you who's who's going by. So i've been i have jotted some down Some numbers with some notes and then we'll look them up. We get a chance. I can tell you. Actually just they're just coming by was raging bull that That wasn't that wasn't hard to see. Saw the mile the blau cloth. So there's still plenty of horses obviously have yet to arrive and it was a huge weekend of of works in fact. It was kinda dizzying to be honest. The the the amount of action between here and churchill Also across the country santa anita final works for the baffert horses and for the others that The sadler and and and more michael mccarthy sources It was a just a frenetic weekend. And you know even even out Beyond you know the horses the horses over at the spectrum at the training center and No miller at saint louis. Ray i mean the. There's there was a lot to keep track of. And you know the the nice thing is that you do have If you want to go to breeders cups website they've got links to you. Know the sources for the you know the various workout video that you know that's available at most of the At least the racetrax not You know little tougher. Obviously when it comes to the training facilities like like san louis and so forth and even in fact. We might talk to tom. Drury he's over at skylight so We'll work in some of the some of the workout information Saw mike wells. This morning when i came in and mike been on hand and so we'll talk to him when we get a chance Might there. I know there's some turf through ten thirty there's turf galloping and or works actually some as opposed to I don't know if they're letting i suppose they'll let the euro's they always seem to let the euros at least come out and you know the the quarantine Horses get their own. You know their own little window and they might stretch their legs. They've got the. They got the dogs up out in the outer the outer pads. Obviously so things are. Things are shaping up and This this incredibly Cold weather will be dissipating as the as the week goes on. It's going to get nicer nicer and nicer. If you haven't checked and it's going to be by the time. We get the friday and saturday. It's going to be absolutely glorious From from every indication body marnie mcgee. Promise that so it. Better come through. Yeah it's gonna climb into the thirties. The next couple of days ended the mornings and then into the forties and in the afternoons We're going to get up into the sixties and sixty sixty eight and sunny on friday and a high of seventy three and sunny on saturday so this is going to a little bit of a bitter little bit of a bitter pill swallow. I mean given given the fact that you know other than some owners and breeders. It's going to be. This is going to be an event unavailable and everybody. Everybody just Dealing with that reality and looking forward to hopefully to better year at on that on that front there was very little On on a good news front in terms of participants in the event No problems per se. There was some decisions and there may be some decisions that haven't been reported that will turn up later as the morning turns into the afternoon. Maybe from door yoga's his office. We might hear some Some specifics but for the most part the only the only decision yesterday the the word coming that That bo recall was going to bypass the mile. And that was actually a significant defection Because our friendly either one really was looking forward to kasa creed getting in the race and now Now we will and coming off the great one The third at saratoga kasa was working with Were working with harvey. He's a little oil and Speaking bill maher we saw. We saw tacitus earlier this morning as well. Anyway there's all kinds of Other tidbits that will slip in. I've got here over the next little bit before we take Ah bottom of the hour break There is plenty to slip in from the weekend in terms of actual racing and We'll get to that one thing that one thing. That was really notable. I thought from the weekend. Did you pick up on. How many stake winners had had breeders cup tie ins and readers. Cup starters for instance majestic dunhill george weaver and of course george georgia's got Point of honor In the in the distaff. And we've got coma because still still might still be at saratoga actually As opposed to say belmont but I think still at saratoga. So but george majestic dunhill won the bold ruler on saturday and that was just one of a handful of readers. Cup connected trainers and a lot of cases ownership as well. Here's a just the ones that. I noticed that there may be more that they didn't pick up on but Barkley tag barkley and step dancer. Won the awad on saturday as well dylan davis aboard and of course barkley with as mentioned earlier. Tis the law up in woodbine. Cassie not so quiet. One the over skate. and cassie. obviously yeah well represented. And i'm sure we'll talk about any number. His runners And then yesterday in the coronation. That coronation futurity. Congratulations the ol- wellings. Who we talked about. Last week and They win the coronation with the constitution. stephen spelled the way i spell mine with justin stein and kevin hart so of course Later we'll we'll see where starship jubilee lines up in the philly and mirror everywhere. You looked at ohio. I mentioned tom. Jury drury one. One of the best of ohio races he won with buckeye magic in the in the juvenile with john. Mckee and tim ham his villi by the way his philly is a picture. Boy she The day out at the office. She made a nice impression today. But that nice alexandria of his one the goal breath for the for the two year old fillies in the best of a yo Doug o'neill wanna race. He won the let it ride. Yesterday at the del mar del mar getting underway this weekend. And so i mean everywhere. You look bret. Calhoun won the clever trevor on friday night maker earlier in the week won the breeders futurity up at finger. Lakes we mentioned is their meat. Came to an end. With ray lou with ray luis gutierrez pretty crazy and then yesterday in that chelsea flower in new york. I gotta talk about the I'm sure we'll talk about tomorrow. With andy but the Yesterday the force out last day of belmont and in grassi a- and i singled and grassi. And i thought you know. I i. I don't know i liked. I thought i liked what i the way. I was positioned yesterday in that In that Force out at belmont and the empire six season and Ended up what third leg. I think barley one and bali one absolutely the two horses that were the. I mean that. I didn't have the two horses that were tricky barley one and then in the nightcap that miss jimmy of took money was five to one and she you know she absolutely if she had repeated that race was last time or to back. Maybe she made plenty of sense and Yeah the turn. Back from eighths. Yeah yup and i was happy that mike lousy Who had been been blanked on the meat. It was less. He wins the those last race of the of the meat which was called with miss jimmy so anyway the people that if you if you navigated that pick six yesterday you did okay and thirty seven hundred and fifty dollars basically came back and it it it. It was substantial. Got up three million so But it was a fun exercise But in grassi and fluffy socks The the winner at pimlico for chad in and south human they had a planes group followed up the selima with a good effort and Kinda got out midstretch but at the same time that ingrasciotta That in grassi was bottled up. jose ortiz. That's a wait and wait and wait and wait. So i i. I'm sure there's plenty of people who you know. Keyed on fluffy socks It's funny they were the second and third choices. That call de took the money and one off at three two two And seemed to me that you know the call de was gonna have pace company One horse that there's actually two horses that ended up coming out of this race out of the chelsea flower. both voiced or box. Who scratched early. And of course the weather a factor and then later in the afternoon christoph lamont extracted love from the races. Well so the. The complexion changed a little bit. But the you know the top pair of Of chad's luckily the greg sacco brunetti philly psychic ability attended the pace and and you know kept. It kept an honest. i mean the splits. Obviously don't mean anything on on that turf that they actually called soft. I mean it was the rain. The rain came early then. The rain pause then it came again but it was. I thought you know. I thought it was sequence worth playing and we should mention that third race. Pull that chart and put it off to the side because that looks like a very good group. How about getting shug at thirty three to one with island. Treasure unbelievable highlight treasure Recall the wonderful philly. Hit it rich. And this stu janney bread by spikes down and a second career start an island. Treasure was was terrific. Thirty three to one unbelievable the horse of south the horse of I want to save marquette While not war of well but wow second in here and ran well and Technical analysis the viewer For chad went off his second choice. And that's that looks like a very nice philly going forward. Let's kingman philly outta the sea stars mare technical analysis so i would watch that race. I think that was a important group. The way it The way they looked so that was just yesterday and anyway. I was struck by how interesting it was that there were so many breeders cup connections. That had that had a good weekends and of course quite a few of the. I haven't even talked to haven't even thought much about the jock situation will get those assignments later today and there was of course over the weekend. The news that mike smith the is is not going to participate he will stay at del mar and that That raise them some eyebrows from the the emerging assignments time while i've got got those Those ohio's let's look the. Let me slip the other couple of winters in i told you about the buckeye magic that was for maccabi. Farm trap shot Home bred colt of theirs for jury alexandria. We mentioned one well for winstar and partners that tim ham and others. This is the home constitution. philly in the sprint chief randall. Twenty two one. Jose romero for owner. Harry wait Who bred this fiber sant- colt not a west virginia brett drill. It drill it for dr gorham mass thoroughbreds bread baier came in philly. Wins the distaff. Nice price to Almost nine to one. And you're is saint. Louis showed up with forewarned the flat out five-year-old trim brooke stable and originally preston stable bread and for warrant wins the endurance. So that was. That was the ohio action So we mentioned that gave you gave you george. Weaver and and georgia's in the in the bold ruler we got some churchill stuff that will have to fit in got some hard news including one thing that i will slip in here and i didn't know last week at the end of the week if i was going to get a chance to talk to Ron gear king but there was there was the really sad news. I mean i don't know how else you term it The word came that Sam son farm is going to disperse the operation and one of the great names in racing. Not just in. North america. Obviously canada but If you had not seen this. They're the their broodmare band particularly is going to be I would imagine be very well received. And they're gonna they're going to disperse over the next you know year and a half or so and keen linden and phase it. will Will handle the the stock. So from from mr samuel and then of course know the really tragic passing of of his daughter. Tammy that would have had. Don't know if this would be happening. If if tommy had not gone so if i did i meant. I had that in my my stack on news so i wanted to be sure to mention Couple of other things. We had the visit with gabe Pruitt that was a lot of fun and people love whatever. Whatever there's a big artist day everybody seems to love it. And then if if you watch i actually. I was having trouble to be honest. I stayed up to watch a the late action Watch you know the early some of the early races. Friday and saturday The the amazing results. I mean you had you had quite a few upsets. Obviously if you have not seen the if you did not follow but there was a four hundred dollar horse sad between my toes upset tall dark stranger and four own nine eighty i. Yeah i don't. I don't I never heard in my. I know i know that. There's there's been a few but yeah two hundred and three to one amazing amazing A lot of the big names that That we had it dissipated didn't necessarily struggle but just beat and that one was that one. Certainly i haven't seen any tales of of the of conquest pretty wild san between my toes of obviously some beach somewhere so i'm glad we did. It and told gabe will definitely will definitely do have a reach out and we. That's what they brower. And who else have we got a roster of of harness the international scene obviously is is a big part of today to First of all and dies win over the weekend in japan She's spectacular and the melbourne cup later today in australia or tonight However however you merchandise the late night we're gonna talk to andrew hawkins and in fact Case let's take let's head to the break and we'll come back and the answer is gonna join us so richmond the ori later and we've got We're going to talk to a number of the trainers have their first breeders cup starter including michelle and terry off. Tom jury my stories. And we'll see maybe We'll get mic. After after their trump works. We'll get Mike welsh to visit and more now. The sun is finally across the entire restaurant. Pretty crazy but andrew hawkins will kick us off with a melbourne. And i've also got dick. Dick powell set me as he promised his analysis or at least his plays. And i don't know if you noticed dick dick had that twenty dollar winner in the first In the first shot. Ted so nice job by dick. I'll save. I'll say dick's Save dick's number Pushes for when andrew joins us There was some exciting news. Also speaking of australia That Story that we've been sort of tracking been waiting and waiting from new jersey and by way of australia The bet makers team the legislation to walk in fixed odds wagering has finally been introduced Pretty much to wait all all through the summer they were hoping that it would be introduced. That mama during the me but you know it's hard to putting all those things so the good news is it's happening and It it's going to. It's going to happen and jersey would be the toehold and from there we'll help that it expands because it would be such a such eh valuable innovation and at an improvement the frustration that the people that are just that even if you understand why there's these late odds changes it doesn't. It doesn't assuage the frustrations so fixed. Odds wagering go a long way and in also we've seen this before two it would also be a benefit that for new players. Who don't under. We've said this a million times. They go to make. It says five to one on the on the odds board by the time they're horse winds. It's half that and they don't understand So it would be a benefit for neophyte. Perspective horse players to the dots. So we're excited about it. And i thought sure we'll talk to. That was baker. Who is the front man for the system. That will be introduced. And they actually. They've got I don't know if you realize this you remember back. The haskell monmouth offered a million dollar bonus for haskell derby breeders cup classic win so thanks eligible for a bonus. Let's take a break melbourne cup. Andrew hawkins will get his ideas after this apple with stoop on sirius. Xm radio are pennsylvania. Breeding program was of course impacted by the pandemic now with our country. Getting back to work. We'd like to again talk about our program. The best in north america are breeder awards will remain up to fifty percent. Pa breads owner bonuses. Won't also stay at up to forty percents. Restricted races will again be run at all three p. h. rex. Npa day at the races will return. I'm brian san fratello for more. Please visit pva dot com from early. Find the people that bring you. Ep declined klein. Unlock and leader. Shield now comes flex by ha. The most advanced. I typically based joint supplement on the market to find out more contact me. Joseph allante has two one five five zero one sixty eight zero to be the best. Give them only the best equine breaking down the biggest stories in the world of horse racing. This is at the races. With steve on sirius. Xm radio we're back looking forward to promise that we were gonna get andrew hawkins back ahead of the melbourne cup and one of the great one of the great race days anywhere in the world and andrew joins us here Not we're not that far What is it. it's nine o'clock here so it's early morning hours in melbourne. And what are we looking at the andrew. Good morning or good. Good evening there. I guess i can say good morning to you. good morning it has ticked with the Here i can't If you get out and i it's already election day years. Well this is. Tuesday here is is certainly going to stop the nation at different story there where the race that stops the nation and we built up to it a little bit A couple of weeks ago and Between you know between the coffee cup and the cox plate We've got a terrific cast. We've got Aidan o'brien who is going to bring you know a failing so horses here to keeneland and we're going to see some of them In about an hour but He's looking for his first melbourne cup. And he's got a pair of you know very very eligible horses set this set the tone for us First of all andrew coming into later today at flemington broke. Be a bit of a symbol. For melvin top It really is A tape price from top to bottom and it's actually quite extraordinary because Early this year to pay One of the wakeham house because it didn't look pocketing Business trip And australia and new zealand say they will get Among horses get out of our rats so it was thought that it was going to be quite a week top You look at it now. It's just it's quality from top to bottom there is really Bought one author. Thousands deserve to be there And not one that you can really say isn't a chance I'd brian Takes a couple of horses down Event on are obviously run in the break-up last year and has been very good this year. He's he's got carry plenty of wife And then you put them on fish in the are dhabi's wanna chris three. Let him on that Lot we waited three year old Again it's it's a really fascinating right. jokes braun as well With a pair stars Yeah it's it's a really really interesting rice and and there's just so many ways you could go and i think whatever you have some money on you're gonna be Being thought that's put out by the end and you mentioned the o'briens and well represented And i'm glad you brought glad you brought joseph into it master of reality which i know is dick powell. Dick is going to key off of master of reality with Another three horses. And let's kinda survey the obvious players. I andrew and then we'll maybe get into some of the exotic possibilities and some of the some of the the interesting stories. But we certainly between anthony van dyke and tiger moth as you mentioned sir dragnet and very elegant as well for chris waller Talk about the the obvious players to start Look it is one of the mo. Arkan as i say basing melbourne cup. Where i i was. I rolled in here. it's not just the turtles aita facing so it means that We have an idea where the market's going to be at that at the moment at seven to one the field. So it's a very very water rice Park currently the fiber coming up. That are dhabi second than they can. Dan in the white The novacopy handicapped. Where czar in the white and talking is saints. Have either the one who's the most absorb to him. we We two and a half kilo carry which is which is a lot like compared to Anthony van docu current carrying fourteen pounds of side Less than him. So that the he's the favorite but then also Very much considered that a player that the second in the corporate cop behind very elegant Berry elegance also got her bars Hershey's dime beyond the mall a half the harm and she's not the much straightforward mayor. She does over right and she has really high head carriage with for every ground for concern Other chances uh hop in the market you mentioned master reality Monster rally second last year Taken across the lawn relegated actor for g shoot interference but It was a great run by frankie dettori last year. Just again. And i'm sure frankie dettori watching harming that he was at obviously he was there Prince of aaron is on The place up two years. He returned for a crack in his form. Your stralia is simply pop starch. He never runs a bad right there in australia. i think the thing with him He just loved to travel the whole that Actually fill a maiden of graft in uk and get just seems to fall another leg. Australia's it's Really quite an extraordinary story Pacelli fellas princeton aaron And then there's another local surprised i-i've who who's had the to blast year but a lot of people each one mafia He always stop thin. it's gonna be interesting to say. Hey form so. I just i say they're. They're plenty of ways an anguish and they're only the few in the market there are plenty of other shop. The lower them in the market have cantwell. And i'm glad you brought Glad you brought prince of erin in because It's a it's a nice story line They saw kind of early this morning. I was the time. Line was peppered with With lots of lots of australia news and that part of it It give everybody a give everybody a barrier Appreciation and. I know you touched on this when we when we talked last but How did the how did the barrier draw affect everybody. Yes i the barry drool from maryland. Copy never crucial because you do have a very very long run About eight hundred meters fulfill on Even actually long fully probably that the author long point that that can have run before they got the thin sar. it's The long run. Down that plankton strike But what's really interesting is. The irony is that he's thought Again he's a couple of star But here which is Interesting because he'll be written by jimmy car- Who's a female jockey. Ian wright melbourne hussein rotting lots outrace. Somebody on the white cod. she she wrote for and she gets berry one Which was also the barrier that prince of dance with michelle pain. The only all Jockey to win the right snowfall out of so Similarities between and dining car and penzance and the chopin. So that's That's the the the title they on On the barrier drove It says the barrier for other horses Probably a mockery wind. He's he's out of barry twenty three which is obviously second from the app thought On the whole school ashram who actually won on saturday and is now backing up on the tuesday We have been done quite a few ponds before but Funny that isn't saying in many parts of the world And three year. Painful quite typical. So that's going to be restaurant from from out otherwise horses the bruin. Well anthony van dockers to get the absolute perfect for on he's near the he'll he'll just get an absolute so to save my. No that's why i lost A nap by in But again it really is a case of not having that much of an impact on the right probably just it tells you who carried out the position into a spot win. I want people who gonna have decided to party. Probably be by what happens in nearly cited. Well the some some final Some final thoughts from you. How are you going to approach this from a from wagering standpoint. We'll look looking very lucky that again in australia we have We have Anti-politics wagering actually the two tickets at a lot on forces better at the Short what i what i I back about so talk them up. I was very very lucky With one hundred to one about him on on very about a six to one And ashram the other one. I mentioned the winner on saturday Six hundred human. He's currently got twenty one lucky there in that sense but There is one of them to since then With the main who's obi trying to construct exotic ram Horse deters in one Rent food to me behind anti that very elegant in the coalfields cup of the day Because he was coming up to briefly crying. Run in The underwood's facts which is not along the the hosts how he'd actually one loss But he's a who just to approve. Preparation on preparation on the rights lost year rather paint. But the thing was coming off a quick backup. He was one of those horses that run on the south design and brand again only choose that does offer laci was really weirdly round rights and he ended up at the worst possible Think yeah having over two miles. And in the awesome e-e-eh he ran second in the sydney couches at that same trip. And i think he's a really horsey currently about he's one. I think you'll probably be a bigger price of nine May on constructing everything around him. Start trying to get him somewhere in the fish But again the advantages. What lock arns locked them all The prosperity Very elegant balk as well And another was mentioned finch. Run the run in the right to use and Of course that probably win. But the whole just is always around the super consistent One for exotics. So that's the way. I'll be fine. There is to try to find a way to get a charging one in a variety of all right. Let's let's give everybody and You mentioned that also is a horse that that dick is using in fact. Let me give everybody. Dick's play i Dick is keying off of master of reality. Who's the four and then sir dragon at finch and tiger moths. Oh four five. Eleven twelve is dick's Sort of key box and and You know each way Sort of an agglomeration but he is going to bet master of reality to win. Give everybody your Your numbers to enter. Yeah so familiar will be seventeen. Twenty one twelve and thirteen so seventeen is charging one. Twenty-one talk them all and then he gets down to twelve barron pain surprised by but it's one of the races where against you could make types for lake top of field and You could probably still reach the winner. It's it's an incredibly incredibly fascinating built top For those who will sign up on a. I think it's a about eleven pm Eighth and fun but it is. It is really truly to be Worth it it is just a shame that no crowds will be tracked. So i had fun be really quite eerie Having a melon cup run of and giving their normally inexpensive one hundred thousand paypal where It's on the why the world with moscow be glad that that the rice saying then and to such a quality but yes it's It's definitely a very strong years. It's been the case everywhere. It'll be the same thing here on friday and saturday. They'll be smattering. There'll be there estimating you know a couple thousand maybe fifteen hundred. Perhaps depending on how many you know connection tickets are utilized plus you know plus staff and whatever else horsemen than their teams. And you know it's going to be going to be going to be the same as what we've seen all summer. i mean what. What can we say the triple crown season. Saratoga you name it. I mean everywhere is dealing with this but You know. I mean the beauty of of the w. systems You know it's not a perfect scenario but it it obviously it's taking care of business Pretty pretty well for for everybody and of course In in australia mentioned earlier the tab system as part of you know what's going to be the fixed wagering Scenario getting established here and actually know andrew. You can address that because the fixed odds you know has become a mammoth success in australia and new zealand. it's saying something that Again skrela and new zealand Philip app if they need to go Very much a heart's apartments parmesan product But you've seen the makers and and fixed operators into the sphere But where it's been really successful as Tab itself which is there are one writer. have been the have pixel now for about a decade and it's really proven to be a popular options the back of the ken into the portfolio which still have quite a bit of the quantity in them You'd be you'd be surprised. Perhaps acquitted remained in those hopefuls. But you will accept option as well so It does provide the best of both worlds and a strategy and governments as well is strong in that a lot of that money does flow back to to the sports into for taxes and Through to pay you know it's not like In the uk when when there's issues with levies paid by by bookmakers It's very strictly got down here. Which means a lot of money. He's still flying before which is one of the real added and the positives of the karmitro system so For it's it's proven very successful and i think in terms of The appetizers It it it really does. Just just open up that way to the tweet of possibilities and really Really gives them And bake and baking a select from now it will be. It'll be i. I believe i mean well-received received we've talked about it for you know for years and years and there's been a lot of work that's gone into it then estranged and the team at monmouth. The situation in new jersey is kinda unique and it gives them the opportunity to try. Things i mean. They didn't to be honest to the they've kind of you know the exchange the batting exchange Didn't never really took root The way that was hoped this is different. Though there. there's a there's a real benefit to the concept of fixed odds wagering and and it could solve a myriad of of issues that are letter kind of vexing. Our you know our tote system right now in from the para mutual side so looking forward to it but In the meantime. I tweeted out The racing post's Unbelievable product that that andrew put together Which basically gives you a run down on all twenty four participants in the melbourne cup and andrew. Before we go to You gotta breeders cup you anything you following in particular for for us for years cup. Oh look being Having a look at the the the rice is Just trying to figure out what for for a few weeks. Now you're paying got ahead across and you just never Maybe he's actually micpith. The and it's been. It's been interested because Again being abroad your accent markets and have those picks up to listen. Unfortunately i actually had a waitress. japan. They're not heading there now Ron very strong end in that fat breakup to bob. I'm actually she say what we know in the earth just because again baking. Melvin cop national china to the to the win the melbourne. How episodes attempts as well as you in money three and we obviously saw in the taxes. Down go really shrewd china And the fact that the the intending to send her against the boys route than repealing being her is a really interesting one so Mouth that That minute longchamp. I think is going to be really interesting but it's amazing again Talk about you know. What twenty twenty. Turn out the brightest out to get these These terrific field food once again and a terrific on the europeans coming across again. The other the other thing. I should mention as well as hoping to say in a strong breadwinner in the search with alexandra would be story. It's only nothing how to have a an attorney this year compaq. Poppy was going to forget. What have an and. I agree to right on through the wing. There came in next week but Yeah but these still quite flurry it. sandra atmos straddling bread at breeders. Cup twenty. She's got she's got a real shot. And neil drysdale Seems very pleased and excited about her prospect And that's nice because there were some issues You know there's some physical. She banged around and There was concern. She did miss some time. But it feels like She's coming up to this well and the turf sprint always. It's always interesting and we we had. We had international last time. We were here. We certainly had international flavor to the turf sprint with the mongolian. The mongolian saturday's win that That had a very international flavor. So andrew remember the gauze was always come on time and I in the winter actually saying it shot ten. That was Yeah as he completed. That i live around But that's what the of the fantastic about bringing that still five. We'll rising and national flavor. Today we did not want to miss an opportunity to look forward about My call the call. It Thirteen hours from now tonight and Everybody if you've never been you've never seen it if you've never seen it. It's not a melbourne cup like Like it it. It normally is obviously but It it's still one of the great spectacles Anywhere in the world and something that That so many people would like to experience in their lifetime included andrew. Thanks so much as always ask lock that i. They've kept soon andrew nj hall on twitter and one of the really bright pundit minds out there internationally and he mentioned you know this time and in hong kong talk to him when he was doing work for hp ajc and He he's got a real. I mean a real passion and you could tell last week. I big birthday. The there was an international international outpouring For for answers birth. It's the top of the hour. Where an hour already. And we're gonna talk to richmond gyory. I'm hoping we can get the scott hazelton his his longtime a broadcast partner and when they're together they're they're they're so good and hoping that now that the tv morning show is wrapped up. Maybe we can get scott on here with the with mick. Let's take a timeout and we'll come back our to we're gonna talk also terry off about the empire of gold his first breeders cup starter as well as michelle level too. Nice of a story not to talk to first time cup. Starters and the tom jury obviously has had an amazing year with the situation involving art collector. And now he's going to get his first breeders cup starter as well so lots to do. Take a break back after this richmond. Look at the races with feedback on sirius. 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Part 1: Rick Hammerle

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:09:06 hr | 1 year ago

Part 1: Rick Hammerle

"Sirius Xm ports presents with Steve Raising and becoming interviews. This is really stupid very good. Valentine's Day race fans serious to nineteen exam to a one sports on nine sixty four. If you're listening to Siriusxm online at our website to Steve Dot Com Valentine's Day one of our favorites. You think about it. February February is chock full of right starts out with one of our absolute favorites. We even though we didn't get to celebrate groundhog's Day properly Valentine's Day you got the Washington's birthday any of the president's you've got it all. It's very complete I will. I will give everybody the standard. Don't screw this up pep talk. There's a couple of elements when it comes to Valentine's Day Saint Balance. I still use the Saint Valentine's I not sure when that happened in a growing up right. It was all Saint Valentine's and I know it's awful right the terrible it's actually terrible story involving say Valda but at some point on the way it stopped being saint. Valentine's Day just became Valentine's Day but they make the effort to do something I know I yes. I know that they've jacked the prices of the flowers up to five times their their usual price. I get it but don't don't do. Something may make an effort and remember. Do Not make the worst possible mistake when it comes to Valentine's Day gifts for your your wife or girlfriend a vacuum or a dishwasher. Do Not make that mistake. It I guarantee you years. It'll take years to undo trying to foist a household appliance over as a Valentine's gift doesn't work. It's a big mistake. Big Huge I got everything out of the way they every year. That's the beauty of the excuse me that's the beauty of one of the extra bonuses of Eight. See Vegas and they get to go to fashion. Show Mall and pick out piece of jewelry that never fails. I think we've done that about five years in a row so she was thrilled and they also also got her got her a couple of Valentine's sweaters. Oh please I am all it is this. This is my wheelhouse. I gotTa tell you happy. Valentine's Day hope everybody has fun with their significant other later today. Lunches and dinners romantic I'm sure there'll be some sure. We'll have some odd twitter reporting of engagements right Epi. It's big night for engagements. It's enough of that. We've got It's also it's also magnified day and and much more this very good racing today and I. I don't want to lose track of the action turf way. Tonight you got the two stakes the Battaglia and Cincinnati trophy three year old boys and girls Tampa today. Those races go off at eight. Twelve nine twelve at Tampa today three sixteen eastern that sixth race the rather notable three year old season debut Guvener Morris but He's hardly he's hardly alone. That's a good. It's a good group so be aware the magnify if you're playing today. The Laura Lace Gulfstream Seventh Golden Gate Third Santa Anita Fourth Gulfstream tenth so all four ovals involved Laurel Gulfstream Golden Gate. Santa Anita. I keep calling. That's funny I keep calling the magnify stronach five and there's a ton actually. There's a ton of helpful information I'd forgotten who the beat. The host host was going to be this week. It's tom quickly so I went to express bet first thing this morning and in going to get the reminder that quickly was was hosting the the five information page is really full of of terrific handicapping tools and the information. You Got Zoe cadman. She looked at the. You know a handful of races. It's Anthony Today including that Fourth Matt. Dinner Man has got Scott a price horse. He likes in the Golden Gate third and Brian. Nato's ticket is there and much more. So if you want a little extra handicapping support it's at Expressed by a terrific. Cast date to go through the weekend. Then of course the major focus will be fairgrounds hard not to get excited about tomorrow's Risen Star Card which has tourism stars for the price of one and both deep compelling fields. The fairgrounds the mineshaft the Rachel Alexandra a big fourteen Horsfield in the AL stall big out the colonel power. Then there's I think four is four main specials and that had he allowance that features the two million dollar Chester town. Who I don't know there's there's other horses in there including frankly the stablemate ownership entry because of West Point winning impression. The Dallas Stuart Dallas has got the two outside horses in there actually winning impressions the One A. and on throttled. The but sharecropper has gotten plenty of conversation speaking of family stall shake some action. Brad Cox Ron who I mentioned the other Asmussen. There's a lot going on in that fifth race. Allowance goes off at two fifty eight eastern tomorrow so just a the whole card starts at one o'clock eastern twelve central. We'll talk to Marcus Hirsch in our three. Marcus has got a busy morning on the backstretch at fairgrounds. We'll talk to him around eleven. I'm guessing after J after J. Prism and joins us with the opening salvo from Derby. Watch the new the new Derby Watch now featuring Marty McGee Marty McGee and j the revamped Derby. Watch twenty twenty. We'll start conversation this morning at Oaklawn of course hammer. They're taking entries today for Monday. And what a what? A Nice Holiday Card. They should have the southwest. The by accuweather razorback hammer will give us some some preview of The entries that are coming in we touched on it yesterday. Should be really good card Monday. Lots of raising Monday. And we'll see what else hammer's got in store for us. Oakland is also going to be a part of the conversation and part of the focus. We have with Ed Peters the player. Best known as fanny that Derby trail. Or we've known Ed for from from the time we started the the website and those who play against them On the on the contest websites as well. Ed Peters will join us in our two. And in addition to add detailing his an experience put in another nice run. In addition to that ED starting with opening weekend at OAKLAWN had basically sent up a flare for everybody at at our website at Derby trail and the the bias. That was so note. I mean you know you can argue about the degree of biases and and I know that it's a it's a it's a good topic and it certainly we hit on it plenty and there's probably more bias thought or you know monitor hung on on racetracks than than probably exists. There's probably less bias than than thought a lot of times a bias might be hinted at but then upon further inspection it turns out. It's it's horses that eat a one the way they were supposed to. And we're the horses that were likely to win. You know a race a race card starts off and you get three winners in the first four races that can win on the front end and then you go back and you look and you see well. They were front runners or oppressors and they were two two one seven to nine to five. That's not a bias that that's what you're looking for. A bias is when horses that have no business winning or hitting the board. You know when when thirty one shots Oh. He found courage no. He didn't find courage. There was there was a conveyor belt. Got Brave on the lead. No he got carried by the racetrack. But that's what that's what says bias not not logical horses winning the way. It looked like they're supposed to win when you got the race but anyway no one is going to question what we had a particularly opening day at Oaklawn and then decreasing basis into Saturday and Sunday. Ed Ed was like a kid in a candy store and he promptly. He promptly started tracking everything and tracked every horse. That was compromised. Those couple of days particularly the first few days lesser extent Thurday. Well those horses are running back and as I said yesterday about this conversation. We're going to have with that feeders. They're not just running back. They're winning. They're hitting the board prices and the horses that were benefit beneficiaries of the track. They're they're getting beat at short prices. This is how you win and so Ed is going to talk about what he does. So you so you can copy it and take home with you So looking forward to a guy wanted on the show forever Nick Tomorrow who? We missed terribly. Course in Vegas will talk to nick in our to. We'll talk to Ed to Rosa Edwards there year at sat with us but we didn't get a chance he was was all over the all over the events center meeting and greeting and trying to help twin spires players in prison that users. So we'll talk to Ed James scully in this first hour. We'll get James's ideas for the weekend and what else I mentioned Jay President and colleague. Marcus Hirsch Ryan San Fratello. Brian San Fratello will join us to the Pennsylvania Horse Breeders and will reiterate will reiterate what we discussed a little bit yesterday with. Andy Sim off. Great to get in the end and feature someone who whose whole life is involved in the sport professionally with business that he runs the transport company trainer owner breeder and everything else so Brian San Fratello will specifically talk and wants to assuage concerned. Breeders that Governor Wolf. We'll be rebuffed and they don't have to worry that the Development Fund won't be there when when they're Pennsylvania. Brad hits the Racetrack in two years three years for next year. So O'Brien San Fratello was well hammer. James scully Nick Camera. F Peters et de Rosa but a pair of beds. J. Ribbon Marcus Price. Ever tell him just got a note and yesterday or I think Wednesday. I mentioned that I was hoping that we'd get the Chad Checks later but you can. You can get the Chad yourself with the fairgrounds. Podcast show that he's been doing and a lot of good timid. Mikey going through the card but also a half hour interview with with Steve Asmussen who must have been an chatty mood and discuss all of his horses including the the risen star players so Kick at the Chad today but you can get his opinions and Mikey's the locker. Mikey you'll get marcus. Marcus certainly certainly discerning look forward to plenty of opinions on the the fairgrounds action. Nicholson the cross country. Pick five which Akwa seventh deep allowance. The Tampa eighth ninth tenth and the Tampa races. The the eighth in the panthers are the stakes are the minaret and the the Pelican the ninth is a turf sprint that is Laden race. That's pretty pretty murky. It does have it. Does have one notable element which is the sister is at that race. Maybe not there's I I did see that sweet damsel. Oh and hardy has got the latest. I guess that's an earlier on the card. The the latest product of Sweet Damsel. The course the DAMA colonel. John Mr Hot stuff at Owen. Hardy that seems to get all the all of the family members out of her. Confirm that there. It is sweet baby girl. Second start out of a very notable. Damn Scott Catch a glimpse sister in that race to. Let's take a break. Let's get going weekend preview. Hammer I with Steve on Sirius. Xm radio home at the tracker on the go express bed is your way to play. The races express bet provides legal insecure online and mobile betting on more than three hundred of the world's top tracks and all the big events. And when you sign up for an express bet account today with Promo Code Vic that's B. Y. K. You'll receive a one hundred twenty five dollars. Bonus once you've signed up you can take your wagering experience to the next level with XP Rewards Express Bets industry-leading Loyalty program earn points for every bet you make in cash them in on everything from wagering credits exclusive race track experiences. So what are you waiting for? Sign up for express today using Promo Code Big. 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Reason is awful so he goes down the hall so the Hammer Either Hammer momentarily or we will jog to scully. First and then circle back to wreck and Yeah The racing office activity today of course with the Monday card and actually Hammer Hammer has asked the said the racing off his stuff is going to be involved on Fridays. So that's why. He sort of jogged him. Forward to the to the opening. He's he's he's moved steadily from from our three hour two and now and now our one. So we're GONNA go to scully. I all right. We'll do that and plenty to talk about with James. Considering the closing of the Derby futures and the Kentucky Derby report that. You really should be you know the two the two things to weekly check three really between countdown to the crown from Jeremy Scully's Kentucky Derby report and Derby Watch with Jay and now Marty and I guess you gotta you gotTa get there doesn't into with. I guess there's I guess there's no stopping any of those want one area. We're not going. I gotTA FEELING WE'RE NOT GONNA get much of a chance to delve into From the weekend is at Laurel and I do want to make sure that everybody's aware you've got a very nice slept a slate of steaks and starts in the fourth at one fifty with the Campbell which is super competitive then. The three year olds the wide country for the phillies. And then the boys turn the miracle would the Barbara Ritchie and the General George. The to grade three sprints forensic fire should be should be pretty tough in the in the General George I I thought the the Fritschi was a little bit little bit more. opened SAGARRA row. Yeah the supervision okay but The three year old races at the Campbell is crazily competitive with always mining. Someday Jones for Will Schwartz may line and Managua. He'll and there's actually also a couple of prices that are not far out of it. Eddie Colletti wait. For and forewarned for your eyes Saint Louis Very Very Competitive Group of seven in the Campbell. There's James scully to start us off. Scully good morning. Hey happy. Valentine's Day Steve. Good morning to you. And what did you get gee-gee although maybe you should maybe should keep quiet It might get back door. No I got her box of chocolate and I gave her some money for some perfume. She wanted so she bought it. I gave her the money for it all right that. That's that's about. That's they'll give that an eight. I'll give it an eight Valentine's Day evaluations score. Not Bad not bad. Tina teen is I discovered. She loves chocolate covered. Cherries it. But do not. Don't don't go. Don't go to the pharmacy and by you know the the the the three dollar chocolate covered cherries. There's a there's a chocolate here in Utah husband and wife Mrs Cl Mrs Callahan's misses. I better look it up on. This is Mrs Calabash misses. I think it's Callahan's I look it up. It's the reputation of the Best Chocolate covered cherries in the country. Obviously it's too late. You can't order them for you know for instant delivery but She has got beserk for these. I got him maybe about two years ago I found him and I get. I get her those for birthday and special occasion type. She's loves it dark chocolate or milk. So yeah you go. I'll I'll tweet out that lake. And and frankly the rest of their the rest of their lineup is pretty impressive to good job Scali Before we talk about the weekend risen stars and so much more the Kentucky. Derby gives us Your feelings about the same vicinity and the Sam Davis as well as the way the future wager closed. Well THE SANFORD. Santa Fe went off thirty minutes about six thirty thirty minutes after the future. Wager quos and Don with down He was the fly he he. He was the actual favourite Z. Max law. Were eight to one. But he was eight point five zero to one favor and in the same day Rogan challenge from nobly a front end Really responded to the challenge in the stretch and no one won't go away by about a land But it was a hard cast. Didn't necessarily finish that fast. In the stretch we only gave him an eighty nine lead pace number thirteen and a half seconds final wrong but he also is coming back off at three week. Rask's only had one more You know do you know it was a hard race that he could benefit from the next race will be the key? Challenge is going to the rebel. The real thing about the rebel will be seeing how he relaxes how he settles even if he's on the front and whether or not he can switch off in the early going because he's shown a ton of speed running twenty one and change in forty four and changing both starts but he's built to go along obviously has the pedigree in the bill and is very exciting at this point in the Sam Davis Solve Allante got the job done independence hall a little. Bit Headstrong and early going. Pull it hard against Jose Ortiz came up a little short in the stretch. Silvana tape ran by the wind going away by open land. You know he's kind of performance. You WanNa see that horse. Come back and prove it. But in his favor he did finish fast. He got solid speedway pace numbers That was the second dirt star. I went on Dr Patrick B account. So he's an interesting late runner at this stage. Very good What did you anything else? you know. I bet I did make a small wager on silver state. I tabbed him in a little blog. I did on the To definitely You know some question whether or not he'll be better suited to turn in the long run but I was willing to give him a pass. That runner up every con. I thought he's still was like a little bit Learning about You know you know. The racing game wasn't too comfortable on the far term but once Santana got him in the clear stretch. I thought he finished school of Ron. And we'll see the continue to build upon that and I visited the risen star this Saturday. Mary other impressions from the Racing Side Well I mean obviously You know just You know really geared up for this car tomorrow at at fairgrounds Before we get to that though you know gotta might mentioned a little turf way that if you wanted to get into that all right well they have the John Battaglia memorial tonight at her place about Sixteen Grace Nepali depressed for the Jeff Ruby stakes. Great Three Kentucky Derby Points Race on March fourteenth. And we've got a full field in their full field of twelve Might make her as we got a couple of horses and the Horse that looks at the front runner in there that I I like the best But he's actually my second pick is invader I. I liked his maiden win. He thought he got good experience and turf races or his career for ward five hundred thousand dollars a year by warfront really ran a big rates. Last time to break is made by twelve. I thought that was a sharp third. I'm a little bit Questioning number five high holy off that sprint. Where win when you had everything is on way? Was well off the rail the entire way Little Bit You know interested to see if you can get two terms. They're not the horse. I did land on though is number three arguments eagle and he broke his main. That came in three starts back in a main claimer where really didn't beat much that day but his next start came on the Pali at turf way and he broke poorly that day with all rank and they're only going never really settled into good stalking trip and rented even for last time he improved. I thought significantly upon that for my maker Really settled into good Stocking up moved up on his own accord on the far turn and the JOCK didn't even ask him until the stretch and he won a real. I thought convincingly even that even though that margin so when you can watch that replay Martine Garcia really had a lot of horse left. I think he'll move for that race stretching out to mount of sixteen. They'll get a good trip. He got a solid speed number for that effort. And I think I think he's he's GonNa win the Battaglia tonight number three Articles Eagle and. That's that's actually who I also landed on. I thought they had the right style for this for this joint. And High Holy from Darren Millard. Silverton is GonNa get attention. It's got to navigate the stretch out But I I also I thought in five to one. I don't know if we'll get five to one but it is a big field in horses. Horses grabbed the kind of gravitate price-wise all over the place so yeah. Martine Garcia was riding at Turkey point in December. He's the obviously Okra now but Raphael Hernandez he rode some like it hot brown maker in the Ramsey's last year he swept both the Battaglia. The Jeff Ruby steak so I like seeing him. Pick up the mount as well. You Know I. It doesn't it hadn't occurred to me until now to look for other mounts and we'll check and see if he's actually getting there but how about Joe Bravo named on Hail to the chief. I know I know that was a You know that was you know that was a pretty solid effort to that definitely. When that day he showed some improving burnt Form in his first two races for Wesley Ward. You know I mean like I said it was a solid race You know It was in a real dogfight. Admit stretch that day and one you know go anyway in the end so it's good to keep building upon and yeah he's worth a look as well at least underneath. I think You know Behind Automous Eagle interesting. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Shoot Joe and see if that was just being named At or if he's actually coming in for the For the one Mount I. We'll find out here before we get off the air today. Okay so that's turf Any interest in the in the trophy. Cincinnati Trophy You. Take a look at that you know. I think A fast day in and she'll be favored in there. I thought that was a little workman lioness who was coming OFF A SIX-MONTH PLAYOFF. I like rising seas or Colebrook. I thought that was a good win. Last time it was in the slop but I like the way she did it about. The runner-up came up to her that day and she turned her back and was never going to buy or sell. I think she has more to offering to get the right trip on the front end. Mcquarry lane for Breezy and Wesley Ward the CHARAKATA and you know it's funny. Caricom ties all of a sudden everywhere. I look this weekend. As I was handicapping I must have seen like six CARICOM ties and going into last weekend with Seoul Allante I. I don't know if I'd seen to and all of a sudden this weekend. His name kept jumping off the pages. It's kind of funny but go ahead. Go ahead go ahead. No I was GONNA say I mean I'm wondering what the story is back story behind him because his damage is Like a sister to Irish classic winner and another English or English classic winner Philly and another English highway and already produced a great three winner and he sold for six grand as a yearling and twenty thousand is a two year old. Ob S. two year old at training. And I just had to think heck you know he didn't bet right or something because just on pedigree You would think is he would be worth more than that. Well you could listen to PA- Patrick being from his visit the other day and you can get everything you want to know that. Let's third this Saturday and all the good action Particularly in New Orleans. And I know you got a couple of other spots that you looked at including the Laurel boys race the miracle would but Let's start at fairgrounds in the risen. Star's okay I'll just walk around way back in the second division. I just thought that division came up Weaker than the first I don't think there's a lot of pace in there and within Oh dior adding Blinkers I just could just project him getting a really favorable trip and if he doesn't win from you know a you know a good spot turning for home that that'll be enormously disappointing. I I took a look at major fad. A little bit worried because I thought it was a really good looking the way he drew off late but he didn't corner very well. He's sort of blew the turn that day horse set Does it treat me coming off? Amazing number one modernist now. Obviously that lasts racing really false pays but once again. I like the way finishing the stretch. There he looks like he's moving forward He won't be on the lead tomorrow but he could set a good trip. Admit pack and has something less Offering the stretch so it's authentic yours race to lose. Modernises is is worth a little bit of a look in my estimation it. I'm Kinda glad to hear you say this because I value your opinion obviously but also when I looked at it I said people are saying. Oh they're so wide open. Oh it's so competitive. I thought fan door runs his race. I how how did they beat them? And the one thing the one thing that people should be aware of and I yes he got beat by thousand words at At Lowe's how. But I will say this. Low Sal has a stretch that is in the same vein as fairgrounds so some of those horses. That are going to be negotiating. The thirteen hundred thirteen hundred and eight feet is some of those horses that are going to be begging for the wire. At at least ano- door has has had that kind of long stretch run and maybe you know maybe the hood makes the difference for him. I I I agree I I thought he was not just the horse to beat but way the worst of the yeah yeah absolutely now the first division that has five of the top six finishers from the cops back in their plus blackberry wine and now by Beer. Wine is obviously I think. Pretty exciting horse digital's Jock took a little bit of a whole and last time. He wound up on the lead by the fall. I look for Indo actually most likely set like second or third but that was a really sharp finished that day and Obviously was promising. Co for Joe. Sharp an interesting. Of course I thought a little bit was shot shot. Shaked me up just because You know it looks like we're ready to roll could show some speed and and some other horses as well Outside but You know he has the potential to dissent from by gram and you know. Post Twelve. Did him no favours last on. I thought he was just a little bit interesting as a long shot. Craps more underneath hold on for part-time pours and and and and then of course Enforceable I think he's in with a chance again I really liked the way. He improved upon his To juvenile stakes starts last time and silver state. The thing with silver state to me was watching a report his race in the COP he dropped. He missed the start. I mean he just pro. He got out of the gate all funny and was too far back. I look for them that required us in Canada. Try to establish better positioning tomorrow. you know look to sit like mid pack fifth or six and be just being a better spy turning for home. So he is intriguing to me Give him the fight. Which by the way I can tell you regarding going back to Earth way for a second job Bravo not going to northern Kentucky tonight. He's he'll be replaced on that on that call in the Battaglia okay so FYI and And and you go on to walk danger on anything that I know that was it. No in the retrial danger. Obviously Horses beat British idiom champion Zero Philly and finally coming off a three straight sakes Windsor Steve Asmussen but you know one of those sources have have run very fast from a numbers perspective and I am a little bit intrigued in here. Steve by number one his gory and the reason for that is that last time she drew out. Ursa and I love wound up setting that pace and even though she hung in to be next second you know it looked like they had turned for home and I wouldn't be surprised if did them. You know once perhaps just a little bit more tomorrow and try to finish up better This time and that Kelly James Graham on the lead all by himself but this is gory. Cheese has the top speed writing in the field for dominant wire-to-wire win at amounts sixteenth at Churchill. Downs LATE OCTOBER. Caught a sloppy track in the goldenrod. She showed in the mud earlier. Can't run step in it and last time in that silver bullet day like I said She didn't make the lead that day. and you know just was up close and wound up like weaken and a little bit in the stretch. Only the three lions Amos comes back tomorrow. Ads blinkers And I think she's GonNa send from the rail and she got a chance of potentially upset. I'm I'M GONNA use all my best. She's my topic in their his glory. Well I don't have to remind I don't have to remind anybody About what transpired for those of you. The Cash Damis in this race What three years ago was three? Or maybe even four years ago now at Forty to one or whatever. It was that that that helped propel. Ray arsenault until his NHCD championship. In fact. That's when the que- he qualified off our her that day close down at the Valentina. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He went last the first though he'll be looking rightless right that and the whole the whole idea behind her in that spot was in fact. The you know the the pace. I mean I said to him beyond. I think you know Wednesday that weekend I is that a you must have thrown her in there hoping for pace collapse he said exactly. And that's exactly what they got pretty funny. Oh Yeah and then Y'All got said. Fairgrounds has a four hundred thousand arguing years. He leaves all SEIC. Speak for kicks off with the Fairgrounds HANDICAP ON TURF. I'm I'm going with the one horse. Steve wound tight. I like how this five year. Old California Parrella. Greg gelding has moved forward in his last two starts for Bob. Has I thought that was a really sharp win last time at Santa Anita and for Kent Disarm. Oh to send them seeing these California's shippers come in and run big. They're no better example. Last year Bo recall came in there and you know before she then went on and got stormy. Churchill on Derby Day and She I I just. I don't see a lot of pace in this right and I just think he's GonNa get a good show from the rail I'll also use synchrony. He always runs big off. Playoffs at fairgrounds is seven years old but Those are the two I WANNA know fairgrounds stakes. I gotTA mention Marcus Reporting that want tight is coming out of that race. Okay well you go. You know with that with that being said I mentioned number thirteen spectacular Jim. And they're at He's twenty two one on the morning line. He's a horse for the course there. I thought that Last time and that woodchopper. He was In tight early he was taught and had no even on the lead in his recent starts but wants. Graham's got him settled in that rates He really finished well down the middle. Of course that just miss drum well. It's fair grounds. Every time he's been on the course and that was a good effort improve upon A little bit of a sneaker and they're excellent horse certainly. We've discussed plenty at these parts and was delighted for Jim Baker after the frustrating decay and subsequent Steak win what else we got any Any interest mineshaft than my chap starts the The black gold for those that. Are that play it? Yeah I'm probably I'M GONNA use up I may. I may even use like an ashtray but to me it's just silver dose rates the loons I know some people might take a little bit of opinion. He could be vulnerable up that big win last time but I think he could set the right trip and I just think he's arguably coming on still going as good as ever at age six right now. Brad Calhoun Loves the FAIRGROUNDS. And like I said I just think he's GonNa get the right trip. Nice I am Big Fan. I think fantasy does and I mentioned when you came on. You're talking about that. Oh that Oklahoma Park opening day angle. there's a horse ended oaklawn tomorrow in the last race. Black cat caps in her first and she ran in that last race at Ortiz. One with that Longshot wire-to-wire and she came out of the gate and got absolutely squeeze after the Star In-in Talamo rain or right into traffic on the far turn angle out into the stretch. I think she's eligible improve at the. She's pretty tough little allowance there but she's eight to one on the morning line and proportion that Bain that I'll have a few dollars on tomorrow. Excellent and I know you looked at the wide country before we wrap up. I did yeah the white country boy dreams untold spectacular win. Last time I know with on flop and you know that's a little bit of a worry Pity people remember hidden. Scroll last year but His first race he ran well that day out in front. I think that I'm looking forward to CNN. He's Smarty Jones out of Seattle flu mayor. I mean cannonade like on his first pedigree page old. Old Female of dam was eighteen when he was born. Pretty good The horse though that I will mention his lead. The number one Got Stayed on the rail the entire way on the half on December twenty eighth at Park. That was outside. Rally track the two front running winters. Were well off the rail. The entire way he was on the worst part of the track looked like he could win amid stretch Eligible to improve become off that race Claudio Gonzalez Excellent Hammer is gonNA join us Right now so Rather than say goodbye anything else James. Floating around now that that's much that's all I got right now. All right very good and we'll look forward to a big weekend and it it really a we. We don't have to wait too long. It's really a four day weekend of racing between what's going on today and all the way through to holiday Monday and hammer is GonNa join us here right now and we'll thank James scully You Follow James. Not that he's a big tweeter but the worth Following and you can ask him any capping questions or say. Thank you for For scully pushes that regularly build Your Bank. Roll we'll Stay here and head out to hot springs. It's a busy day of the racing office at Oaklawn because of the Monday holiday card and the three graded stakes coming up on Monday Hammer. Good Morning. Try that again I think we lost them case when I see when that happens and I see you're the dots Casey's typing something that That typically means we lost them so all right case will get him back and he says he's on okay all right so he'll he'll try that again all right well in addition I just I'd rather than start something. I just wait for. Wait for him to come back. Since I don't think we'll circle back to Laurel Given that James looked at the the boys race. Here's a quick glance at the girls and the down inside. Trump bet has got one for Josh Fonts Belle Aurora down. Inside a kind of comes from off the bay. So P mattel save ground all the way and I thought I thought that one was three to one. You can't really argue with you. Know How she comes in and actually Jonathan Maldonado has a horse that granted it was in the slop and allowance win in the SLOP. But it's come back in and ran well twice more naughty thoughts as five to one. Those were the two. I thought. Let's try it again with hammer and out Oakland. We go wreck. Good morning there. It is how we can you hear me. Yeah I can hear okay finally. Yeah what a Weird Day. This is a weird day to begin with but Sorry about the confusion getting through. My phone works only in certain spots here. I said that I told everybody that but I did. Do we finally ordered a Some kind of connection it. I talked to verizon and some contraption they spent without instruction so we'll be working on that but Anyway Happy Valentine's Day to you and everybody and to cold one here. I gotta say I was got up this morning and it's was twenty five but it's not gonNA rain for the next three or four days. It's going to be called and I said well I'M GONNA send this off to. Steve and I said well wait a minute. I checked were. You are fifteen. I said that or not. But Um yeah no training today the only day which is fine Like I said everybody just kind of reactor no problem. I train this morning trying to get the track open around ten and then the verses out for for an hour to get 'em let them stretch their legs win this supposed to be into the thirties by then and But they sure know what to do. They have no problems here and like we. We've mentioned before and you've heard before there's no It's a state national parks so there's no chemicals allowed To put into the track which I think in the long run probably works out better so they can't put any artificial You know deep freezer elements in there. So it's just It's called the natural state so There you go. It's ready when it's ready. They trained so it's it's It's been interesting here but it's been a been a crazy morning so Normally normally we're taking it for the next week but because of the Monday racing Today we're taking Entries for the holiday Monday card. Here which I think there's an opening day of course. But just kind of signifies it's time to rock and roll here Had A few of the horses run over the grounds and maybe a few of the horses that we expect to run today in the inner in the stakes of have shown their faces. But some have it and Start off with a really really good car Saturday. Sunday is A Nice Day. And it's a hat giveaway here so that'll that'll keep the crowds coming in and then Monday Ended up the weekend with the three stakes with the by COA real. Good rendition of the razorback. Were hoping for and then of course the South West which really kicks off the the three year old season here so really looking forward to that. wanted to throw in a thank you last week to Jeff Taylor who came on and gave a few It'll nuances that go on here in Oakland Park and I think he was right on with a couple of things and actually gave out a couple of winters to the folks but As the weather changes here on the track changes You know a couple of things to look out for but one of the things you said. That caught me that in general. If if the weather's not you know the track's not sloppy or anything really is no bias here. and we. I think we're seeing that I mean if your speed horse in your loan speed yet you got a chance to win but if you get somebody coming all the time and it doesn't matter whether it's on the outside or the inside down the stretch I that's what's really caught my eye You see voices common but That necessarily have become you know three or four or five wide but anyway when it thank him for For coming on and and Really enjoyed your Pete's coverage in Vegas. I'm sure I I gotta just go there some one time and just. Kinda feel the action in the room. I think it's gotta be Kinda cool without without fail and there were there was one year was the last year or the year before that you literally were like in the driveway and something occurred. And you couldn't come and when you broke. The car broke down one year. It was that was that might have been last year because working. Yes something happened at ahead is dig instead of Zag but I'll get there It said four days. Begging me is I don't think I've ever done it. Well not knowing the anyway but but it seems like a good crew and I hear what he talking about it and You know one day. I'd like to obviously be at a table and kind of feel that little battle excitement but You know you'll do a great job keeping everybody up but You know Kinda time to start talking about about three year olds in and I saw the new the new list with with Jay. And I'm going to start calling smarty McGee. Now that's my new deal smarty McGee and Jay and They got a list of I think about whether twenty twenty five and not many of those are in action. This weekend Sitting back and waiting for the next big round but There is action that you mentioned earlier. The fairgrounds you know really good card this weekend. They split the risen star. And so they. I think they had twenty three horses in there. And we're we're hoping to get you know nine or ten here so it's GonNa be over thirty horses in this region running for point One of the reasons arisen starred split. Obviously it's a forty point ray. So it's basically a win and you're in race and You know I don't blame people for for heading for the points. Right now You know money money. It's not bad money. Four hundred but forty points is good and and So if you add up to twenty three horses there and the eight nine or ten that we're GONNA get like I said over thirty horses. I counted up over twenty. Those forces have won the total of one race so we got a lot of late starts here and I gotta ask myself. The question are we'll do we see. Are we going to see the Derby winner? Run in either one of these three races? This weekend I don't know unless somebody really steps up Maybe not but the heavy heads are in the in the in the weight and It's time to start looking. I did question one thing I see. They have a race. Here is a great three seven fifty and it's worth ten points and the El Camino reality in La and in the Bay Meadows is an ungraded thousand and that sort ten points as well So anyway the points are what they are but What do you think this weekend? You think we're looking at Derby winner running this weekend. I know I don't know I'm going to say NO I. I'm hard pressed to to not think right. Now that you're Derby winner is based either in south Florida or in California. Well I'm I'm I tend to agree with over you know and we're we're expecting we haven't seen we haven't taken it threes now so we're expecting or is this like answer in who's coming back for For Brad Cox ran a good rates at At remington and the springboard. Todd todd descending chase tracker here Who hasn't been seen this December and ran a good during the national. An ad came back around third in the ramps. And and that was kind of an interesting Deal Originally was thinking about the governor here and She said Well Your Plan. B. And I can't tell you what plan a is and obviously plan was the race of Tampa and that today actually so taking a little bit easier out with him and then he called back and said this Chase tracker works so good the other day said I gotta come so chase DRAC O'Connor todd We'll have the three athletes and horses. I believe coming back that ran in the Smarty Jones Gold Street one that one very sloppy conditions took the lead and kept going this three times. A free run three races in a row. So we'll see how that shoplifted and silver prospector. Of course remember when the Kentucky Jockey as you know put that job checkmark there for him with the race with a good race and a win at Churchill Down Surf. I expect him to run a little bit. Better going a little bit farther villainous. We're hoping answers from Jeremiah Engelhard. Who broke his maiden impressively here. I think it was opening day Brad Cox forcing their wells by you and once again You know silver prospector. We EXPECT TO RUN. Better has a little bit more experience than most of these but You know Jiji said just like that with the with the with the risen star lot of horses that have just won one race and I don't know if if it's too late to play catch up For horses like that. They haven't really shown a whole lot. So interesting to watch but I agree with you. I don't think we're in this round where we're looking at the Derby winner but it's starting to get cranked up. You've already starting to see horses. You know like Lynn at all The dog committed to the rebel. And a couple of other places. And we'll have the rebel coming up in the Louisiana Derby Tell was we'll get into the next round but another good race that we're taking interest for today's the razorback. That's a five hundred thousand dollar race for a broader ours is here and we ran. We ran a fifth season early in the MI Just a little tease. But this is a this is a big race. We're we're hoping once again. We're taking free slave open. I like pioneer spirit Math wizard snapper sinclair. Proviso come back again. We hope Campaign where charge yes. Sweet Joe via through Greg Sacco's Making the trip down here exhorting and So hope for good You know eight nine ten or suit. I keep saying we hope because we're taking entries today and having CNN. I don't WanNa say someone's in their when they're not it can't if they're in there. I can't really tell you there anyway so But that's who are expecting for those in the by Co as well so Like Acetic he kinda starting to get the kinks out around here. Everyone's Kinda used to the routine and this weekend is like. Hey Man let's rock now. It looks I don't know what the rest of the car they'd look at the condition book about the rest of the The day's slate. But I imagine it'll be one of the highlights of the Monday over. That are that are running anything to touch on also hammered to For for tomorrow particularly Given the Dixie Belle ca came up with kind of a small cast but There is there. Is that allowance race? That's part of the well. The cross country five which would rates with that when the the eighth graders the sixth grade three rows. Here take a look at Mike Maker has one in there for cal met on the rails and ties to another one on the bus when he knew it was common with Cisco for the other. Alex Sixty six th interesting to look do the outside but you know what once again. I haven't seen a hindrance to any of the post position short long you know inside outside either so I wouldn't I wouldn't Discount that one. There's another allowance race. Nice rates a three other than in the eighth rates where we're GONNA see Niro in his second rate back For the Bar Nanny. Walk coming out of the Malibu for Wayne Catalano in their kind of heads that cast you mentioned the Dixie Belle Marquette. He has a real nice looking Philly Especially in there on the fence and kind of like last week when we had to rise in the in the long edition a lot of people sitting back and watching and see what What's going on the Thrill Philly tough division? Sometimes this time of year and they're nice allows rates at heads right. Stand out the car up till he's going Three year old fillies going along for the first time I condition I made perfect happiness who She ran huge early. And then me for Larry Jones and and There's another one in there. She's a dare devil. Brian Cox Who Brian Cox? For the first time I've raced with him consistently In and out What a nice guy he is. I mean not that that means anything but it does When you're dealing with people Very logical You know happy to be here at boy. He's really sneaking up to be one of the top top trainers and all kinds of categories anymore. Used TO BE Bradley and Brian Cox. Somebody dumped but I'm thinking football. Brad Cox Just seems to be you know. He's not one of those guys. Oh He's a turfed rayner he's got sprinters he's got he's got everything and voice doing a great job with all of them so One of those kind of call them up and comer but You know he's really A guy that you want to root for them on the scene and is doing well so keep an eye on him and all kinds of races but he'll be filling up the maiden races and the allowed types and the states as well so Anyway it's been It's been a real good. I feel part of the part of the environment here now after being here. Three four weeks and Just really cool like I said. I think this weekend is GonNa really kind of pump. Everybody happened and set the stage for the rest of they keep they keep telling me Oh. Wait a little weight on March. Wait on March in the you know in the fishing boats and everybody in the sunshine comes out. Well I'M GONNA be here. I'm waiting till March. We'll be off but not far off so But not dog Good Hammer. I appreciate it. We're GONNA talk more about Oakland. Actually after the top of the hour with that beaters and in fact that sixth race has no less than four horses. Coming out of the wells by you win the allowance when back on opening Sunday and Ed right talk about. I heard it was playbacks. I heard you talking when you're into just absolutely because there were a few days in there earlier on those days when you went to the front and then later which does except for those and those win like there was one yesterday that came back. Johnstown right right and you know like you're trying to get the same deal but you know. And he was two to one you know he should have been probably good price but definitely could play against and there's probably a few others that day It it out that look better than they should have and others that got you entered Vienna. Here what what it has to say so because it's the the the temperature and the wetness and things change around here on a on a daily basis. So you really do need to be cognizant of the way things were playing but By just want to play it unless there. That's extreme one way or the other detract does play fair and and You know that's what I'm saying and we're seeing some good prices so anyway job half the time to go out there and get some Chocolates or flowers or something. Sneak it in there So get that done happy. Valentine's Day everybody. I'll be happy. Valentine's Day Gina. My wife seen in a while. It might daughter Lizzie. So right got to do that. Thank you very much happy. Valentine's eighteen to talk to you guys and enjoy the day and we'll have a great weekend YouTube Hammer. Everybody and we'll recap Particularly the big holiday Monday when we talk next week. Let's take a break and of course Rebel three weeks away as well. And we already getting rumored horses or close to confirm like nate out. Let's take the break. Your top of the hour. Ed Peters the player known as Fantoni. He's going to join US next. 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