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The Grid 007 ft. Matt Matros  Jack-deuce suited

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The Grid 007 ft. Matt Matros Jack-deuce suited

"Data may welcome to the grade. I'm your host Jennifer. Shoddy and we'll be taking thirteen thirteen episode journey through every every possible. No Limit Holdem in one hundred sixty nine has in total from aces to seven days officer each episode interview another top poker player personality -ality about their hand. WanNa combos taken. It's gone so this podcast will become progressively more difficult as hands like ace. King are from the dead head. Whether you spend hours poring over grids as you study poker loved listen the had history pause while grinding cash or just interested in absurd scavenger hunts. We're GONNA. The has some cards dealer of hit me. They see me see me awesome data. Welcome everyone back to the grid read. I am so excited about our guest today Matt Metros. He's a three time world series of Poker Bracelet winner with over two and a half million in live earnings. He's also author of a book released. During the poker boom called the making of poker player how an undergraduate math wizard learned to play a championship poker. Now has a brand new book coming out the Game Plan. Dan How casual players become threads in no limit Holdem tournaments incidentally matt also shares lots of other interests with me. Including chess literature and parenting in two year olds mad at a really fascinating heads up hand today to discuss with us a jacket do suited. Thanks so much for joining me. Matt of course thanks for or have me jen so tell us a little bit about his hand. When and where did it take plays the twenty thirteen. NBC Heads Up tournaments so the invitation only heads terminated that was on NBC back then and I scored an invitation because that was coming off of my three consecutive bracelets at the world series of poker's. I was never much of a poker personality. I didn't usually get invited to televise stuff like this but because I had been on a bit of a run at the world series the previous three summers as I was able to somehow get an invite to this tournament so it was the first round and I was paired against Bryant Hastings who at the time was considered one of the best I if not the best heads up no limit hold them players on the planet so I had my work cut out for me and I knew that and I and I'm not I was not then and not now now a heads up specialist so into a fair amount of preparation before this match even though the structure of the NBC heads up as anyone who has seen it on TV probably knows is extremely like fast. The matches are designed to end in an hour or less and many of them including mine and much faster so despite that I wanted to be well prepared. I was twenty five two thousand dollars by tournament. I didn't want to just go there and play some week heads up strategy so I got in touch with a buddy of mine well known poker player who gave me some tips about heads up play and I kind of realized as I was studying it that I would need to have. Some kind of four bet bluffing range. Is that was going to look sort of strange so that's how we get to Jack do suited. I didn't want to be bluffing with hand that could reasonably gains more equity by seeing seeing the flop by calling three bad and so the format bluffing. Hans I picked some hands where if they got called they would still have some value but if someone five bed amish shoved on me I wouldn't really care I would happily fault and so probably the worst of these hands that I picked for. My four bet. Bluffing range was jack do suited suited. Were you picking. Jack do suited hand that you would always love or is it just like some of the time if I if I raise got three bet with Jack defeated. I was always going before bed. Ah I probably a better sort of optimal strategy would probably be to take a slice of all your sort of bad hands and do it some percentage of the time with them but I I didn't really want to figure out how to make my brain do that because it's really hard for for humans to sort of self randomized yourself select when okay we're GonNa do is twenty percent of the time could well. What does that mean. It's really hard not to do it. If you think you're doing at twenty percents it's really hard not to do would like either five percent or fifty percent. It's hard to make computers. Meters can do it easily and that's probably the right way to go but for me. I said all right. I'm going to pick a few hands do one hundred percent of the time West. I don't have to worry about calibrating myself and other hands even though maybe it would make sense it with more hands a smaller percentage that that was that was not my plan for practical reasons all the four about hands that you were going to do it with that weren't good. They don't have the people who play at the W. also definitely didn't in fact. This might have been the only one that had to do something. I'm not really sure I don't remember berate now the exact range I picked but I do remember thinking wow. I just set up this rain tonight before I've never forget with Jack Ducey in my life in any form of poker not that I played much heads up but I have logged probably fifty seventy five hours of heads up play and and all the time. I don't think I'd ever I'm sure fact that I had never forget with check but you know the night before I'm picking my range and decided that it made sense and again I think this was the weakest hand in the entire range and sure enough like ten hands into the match Brian's three betty me and I'm by myself forbidding with Jack do seated further thinking like well. At least he'll probably never call. I mean I know what I decided in my I studied that it's theoretically correct to have a three bedroom flat the four with but I was actually surprised that something good players did I would have thought facing a four bet. You'd probably just five bet or fold so it's interesting to me that theoretically you should have a three bed call range and in fact. I was planning to have a three bit call range but I thought Brian Hastings is not going to do that. Brian Hastings either gonNA shove or folders. It's going to be fine well. That's not what happened. He in fact does call announced taking a flop in position with the jacket spades the Duce's spades Def- Lop Comes Jack Tan three with Jackson of clubs at Donald Backdoor flush offer what is worth and Brian checks and I have about. I guess two times the size of the pot left in my stack at this point. Maybe a little more actually more maybe more like two and a half to three times the size of the pot so I that for value and it's still heads up. It's a four bed pot and you don't necessarily love top hair bottom kicker in a four bed pot but in heads up top here is almost always a pretty strong hand and so I bet in for value and Brian shoves resume and I'm kind of wondering what I've done to myself because it's now playing this huge pot not that great and really and Brian. There's no reason that Brian's range has to be capped here he could have easily decided to fly pre flop with all the over pairs and so I might have just played myself out of the NBC heads up with with Jack do suited but I do not handful that I even said that out loud as the Hams happening so well I bet this hand to then full to your shove Brian's and we we kind of knew each other a little so we're it was a it was a friendly back and forth that was happening and I said call and we're not attorney or cards over yet because they had to bring the cameras over to get the reactions to win the cards revealed and as coming over Brian's. I'm liking hearing over here. I'm liking you saying that. You're unhappy that you had to call after you bed and I'm like this is terrible. He's clearly got kings. I'm clearly clearly going to go broke now but then has revealed in Brian is the man who shocked because he has ten and he finds out he is behind and I was definitely also a little surprised as well because he seemed so confident offended and had to be good when I was saying well. I'm forced to call after bedding so he's more of a heads up player than I am and maybe just in his head any kind of top hairs significantly efficiently stronger holding than it was in my mind at that time the sad ending to the story is at an ace hit immediately on the turn and I was knocked out on the hand but the lesson I'm from from the hand was with several lessons. One is is that once you sort of a new concept or learn something new about any kind of poker game. It's kind of amazing how fast you'll find yourself with an excuse to put that into action and see how well it's working and trying to test it and seeing if it makes sense to continue doing and so I think anyone who's trying to improve should constantly be sort of tweaking their game and trying new ideas and you'll end up getting at least kind of feedback in the in your play away and it's going to be successful strategy or not and the second thing is that there's just so much luck in this game it doesn't you can do all the prep yuan you can have the most amazing implant going in but in the end there's going to be in a huge amount of randomness into whether you win or not and that is something we all know as poker players but it's very easy to get reminded when you're playing a very big buy in tournament and you just are watching the cards run out after you've somehow got in your chips in in a good spot and then just out oh totally. That's a really great lesson. I and I mean do you remember how you felt after the hand where you kind of proud of yourself because it's much easier to to look at a Hanley jack-booted and say well in the first level have a little bit of room to forget bluff but a lot of people might study that strategy and then when they're with the bright lights and action they give themselves an excuse to fold so where you kind of happy with the player or are you more disappointed that you're no longer at. I was somewhat proud that I follow through on my plan. Yes because that's always worked for me in poker throughout my career. There's been a lot of times when I've had ideas and carried out strategies that were not considered the standard plays or whatever by the by the mainstream poker world and just by sticking to play that I believed in has worked out for me in the past and so I was happy that I did that again. I thought it was kind of ridiculous at the same time time that the strangest thing that I put into my entire plan immediately came up six hands into the event but I was certainly was a was disappointed that I was out of the tournament because I was clearly underdog going into the match against someone with much more heads up experienced than I am and a better poker player arguably overall than I am in Brian Hastings and to have gotten a good position against him was very satisfying so it was. It was ultimately disappointed that it didn't win the match but who knows he might come back from a short second you way through there. He would've been very short though I was always a fan of course of the NBC Heads Up Championship was a lot of fun to watch but I'm actually releasing prized that there there was a potential for four bet folding. I felt like when I was watching it. There is only like may be one level where there is a lot of postseason play you. You really did study for that. One level yeah I found the one level now there was not a whole lot of room for four bed folding for most of the matches but in level one there was and yes. I did study quite a lot for level level one mostly because the other levels didn't require much study. I mean picking your jamming ranges with say thirty blinds or twenty bucks. I studied that too of course but that that strategy was more straightforward. There wasn't a whole lot to it whereas picking a range with like eighty blinds. What are you GONNA forget with. What you're going to three bed call. What are you gonNA raise raise call those questions were much more interesting complicated to deal with and so I probably spent a disproportionate amount of time and then on the other hand and that's level you know you're gonNA play which the first deep stack level and so I wanted to make sure I had a robust plan. I mean I didn't like spent months and months preparing for this event but I did. Did I flip. Basically I flew to Vegas a few days early and Kinda locked myself in my hotel room in prepped for the event in worked on ranges talk to my coach and our calling my coach this other poker player whose opinion I trusted on this stuff and came up with strategy and carried it out and I look back on his positive experience for sure but I do wish I'd gotten a little further because that that field overall is generally pretty soft. There are a lot of poker celebrities quote unquote if you were not necessarily professionals and even though I didn't have much heads up experience. I probably had more heads up experience than three quarters of the field. I'd won three bracelets and heads imagine so it's not like I had no chance at all heads up but I was facing someone who clearly was better than Iowa's did the televise aspect of it. Mickey nervous at all were in any of your bracelet wins televised or livestream. Probably the last two were live streamed. Neither of them had hole card cams which is a little bit interesting different than it is now now nowadays when poker's livestream there's always holcombes as far as I know and you can pretty much always see what everyone has an you can comment on on their play but during my to win so I got to listen to the people in the booth kind of guessing what I had or thinking about what my opponents might be considering calling me with and so that that was kind of fun because it showed me that listening to some of the comments that okay they actually don't really know what I'm doing all the time and sometimes they make good guesses but a a lot of times there's completely off and that that's fun to whereas now it's easy for everyone to kind of look like they know what they're talking about because they can see your cards and so it's a little bit different but anyway to answer your question in about whether. I was flustered by the cameras I played. I played a lot of or at least a fair amount of televised poker at that point. If you read my first book making a poker player you know that my first experience in front of cameras in the two thousand four World Poker tour championship did not go especially when I was extremely flustered by the cameras in that one having then played on livestream several times since then and also having been on TV to discuss various aspects of poker in fact I was on TV just a few days as before the heads up because I had written article comparing at the time the debt ceiling crisis to a poker game and Fox business decided they wanted to put me on TV to talk about it while I was in Vegas but but anyway the point of that is just just to say that I'd had a fair number of cameras thrown at me fairly recently and so sitting playing someone heads up with people kind of walking around the room cameras was actually much less stressful than staring into camera and doing an interview especially when you're so well prepared and I think that's something thanks to the idea of preparing that will make you less stress. You only knew that you were. GonNa play Brian. What like twenty hours in advance so some of the prop was general prep or yeah it was it was the night before and I had done general prep for the most part and then I was Kinda hoping that I would be paired with an opponent in who I wouldn't necessarily want to follow all these plans against someone who would maybe not a professional player and who I could maybe play a little explosively against but once I saw that it was Stinger I said Okay I have. I now have to really get these ranges down because he's if I have any weaknesses in my strategy he's going to find a way or to expect that he'll find a way to exploit them and so. I- I hunker down again in the middle of the night I need to continue working on this further so I'm kind of lazy and I definitely saved a lot of it to the last minute but but once I got my opponent has like okay after really focused now now thinking about the hand now as you have even more years of experience and poker theory has changed some more. How do you think you would have plead the hand differently differently if you had let say you still for that pre flop okay that that's the big watched but yes go ahead and then every I mean. Do you think everything else would have kind of gone the same I think if you have that small the stack deposit ratio than yes top payers pretty much hand you go with heads up so I don't think the post flop play would've changed very much. I guess you could make some argument for checking back the flop and just inducing bluffs instead of trying to extract value out of hand. I'm still oh not a heads up specialist so I'm probably can't really offer you an expert opinion on heads up valuation in four bed pots but my instinct is certainly that even in a four you bet pot and even with the worst top hair you can come up with. I think that's still worth value bet and that there are hands in Brian's three bet call range that including ten king ten possibly pair smaller than ten that he's probably not just going straight fold on this flop and so I do think it's worth Evalu- bet and I certainly don't think I could be wrong but I don't think you can value bet for roughly a third of your remaining chips. Maybe it was like maybe a quarter of my remaining stack and then fold to the jam but then again maybe with your very worse value bet you could consider it so I guess that could be another decision point if it's true that in my four bet value value betting forgot pre flop and then valued at the flop range if this is the weakest hand that I can have in such a range then you could make an argument for a fairly good argument actually really that I could consider folding to the all in in practice on a board like that Jackson three with two clubs there so many draws that an opponent can have and so as a poker player when you see someone shoving on you in a board like that and you have top pair you just Kinda Shrug your shoulders and call and hope that it's one of those draws they have most opponents are not fantastic at balancing the rangers exactly optimally and so they might be jamming with such a range there where you really can't fold any of your your value bets but if you're against in a true expert like Bryan hastings was then it might be a little bit different so I don't know I have to study to get more. My instincts are that that that the play was finding even in hindsight but I I would have to study it some more. I think that it's funny that you laughed at the question at first because you're saying the pre Blah you might play the hand might have been different yes. I I might very well. Pick a different that bluffing rates. I'm not sure that away before right before w as seriously though really really great Nevada hand no doubt you know I noticed from both chess and poker that preparation doesn't always work out as perfectly and then imperfect Lee in this case where you get exactly what you've prepared but of course in this case luck was against you but something nice about all that preparation and I remember I also did a lot of preparation for. We're a heads up tournament. This is actually a charity has tournament. I played last urine. Las Vegas at this offer why headquarters and had a very unusual structure with like really really massive Anne's and so I spent some time just kind of playing around with some programs and studying for it and even though I only played one match and I ended up losing the match. I felt like well. It was actually potentially very useful because obviously obviously if you WANNA win a bracelet as you did three times you have to win heads up eventually so any kind of study that goes in that area is going to be really good for your our ally yeah absolutely it can be hard to motivate yourself to study heads up if you're not a heads up player but if you're tournament player it's going to pay off some day that there's GonNa come a time when you're playing heads up for bracelet. Hopefully or some other major term in any of the work you've put into heads up in the past is going to be hugely valuable at that particular moment so it's one of those things that will if you're tournament player will only have very long term implications but when it when it does come up it's it's really satisfying and actually in in all three of the bracelets worn really my memory of them that I kind of ran amazingly great for most of the tournament and got very very lucky but then heads up. I played played well. I that was the one time I was like okay. I might have gotten really lucky to outlast everyone except for that last one person but I came from behind in the chip count in all three of my bracelet a heads up matches and all three times. I was very proud of how I didn't give continue to work on my plan to play the best heads up poker that I could. I really feel like I al played all three of those opponents. They're all really good players by the way but on that particular day I really felt like I was I was better and that was satisfying because the rest of it. I think it was all luck. I WanNa ask you some questions writing now and when preparing for this interview I came across a quote that really resonated with some of the things I love about poker and chas and it was from an article you wrote in the US puzzle championships on mental floss. Were you said that you've always loved puzzles. They combine the joy of revelation with the satisfaction of effort rewarded. Did nothing tops the epiphany of realizing that the nine in the corner of the Sadako means at the Middle Square camp before it feels like magic. Do you feel this magic magic vulgar wow Jan.. I cannot believe you dug up a mental floss article. I wrote a while ago on the US puzzle championships. Dad is some impressive homework. He's really fascinating. I never even heard of the US puzzle champion. Tim Actually would really enjoy. I haven't actually I haven't actually entered in a long time but it's super fun. Every time I do it. Ask as for the question yeah there are similar opinions in in Poker and chas basically the joy of kind of figuring out how one thing logically implies something sometimes very small. That was why I said can the means. This is not a four for example in this in poker. It would be something like well. Wait a minute. I'm ruling out this this particular hand because this player did not three bad pre flop or this because this player acted so quickly on the flop or because this player would would not have limped in this position behind that particular opponent and all you conclude from that they don't have one very specific hand but eventually you make enough of those conclusions than adds up to a real tangible result and really the joys are small. The joys are well. I figured out this part of it. I might still have ended up losing a lot. Other stories go well. I knew he didn't have the spades. Therefore there were very few hands in his rings I could have beaten me so I shove and then of course they have the other hand that could possibly beach it. You and you lose and a lot of times. Those are the stories and so it's not always about winning. The joys are more. I mean winning is great do but I take a lot of satisfaction and just kind of figuring out small things along the way yeah definitely I mean I think that's one of the one of the fun things about studying poker that sometimes you realize things that that have that puzzle lake field to them right. Yeah definitely really I mean. The poker is basically puzzle it. You're starting with all possible combinations of hand than your winnowing them down through logic instinct stink then you're eventually arriving. Its conclusion and you get to do it over and over again. That's one thing that's interesting about poker. When you're playing it any way everything is over relatively quickly whereas with puzzles you can can spend hours on them and still be plugging away and trying to get to a solution. which has his own his own joy sometimes but there's something to be said for having conclusions right? I mean that's something else you mentioned in the article about. How if you try to figure out you know shorts tax strategy over the table. Just get completely exhausted. Because is you really need to have that homework done prior. If you try to figure out pods short drive in g opening ranges when you sit down the table even if you're the smartest mathematician out there you're going to be exhausted by the hour of play so that ties into the game plan your new book right. You're trying to give people some shortcuts in some risks when they sit down to play yeah. Well thank you it just high into the new book. A preparation is just essential in all of these games because there's this idea that if you're gonNA do a puzzle or if if you're gonNA play poker or if you're going to do any kind of intellectual endeavor that you can just Kinda sit down and figure it out if you're smart enough but nothing could be further from the truth and the more prepared you are in the more you've seen similar situations before and gotten yourself ready for them the faster you can respond in real time. The idea is that there are a lot of people who are our love poker. They they play a few times a year in tournaments and they just try to use their best judgment when they get the table about what to do and see see if they can win a lot of money but often they end up failing because they have not thought through every situation carefully and if they don't have a good short stack plan or more generally. They're too afraid of busting because they don't play that many tournaments and to them. It's important to try to survive as long as they can but if you take on that mindset you give yourself tough very little chance of making a deep so the game plan. My new book is a series of rules to protect these players from their themselves essentially and to give casual players who understand understand the game and are can play okay but let's play it much more aggressively and in a way that will give them a real chance to make a score and that that I had I had the casual kind of player that I see in so many Atlantic City Tournament and so many world series of poker events that I see once or twice a year and they're very pleasant pleasantly love poker but they always seem to be held back from really succeeding at it. I'm trying to at least give them a shot. Do you think that a lot of other training materials are too complicated because so you do open the book with a quote from Albert Einstein. Everything should be made as simple as possible but no simpler and is there a perception that some of these training materials are Jess. Ask too complex for anyone except semi pros professionals. If you're going to take poker seriously as a profession then you should really get into the complexity and you should take on as much training material as you can and even if you're interested in and just getting better quickly if you're not if you're just an amateur player you can start with my book and do with the game plan says to do and eventually you probably will learn the more more complicated strategy that we all love about the game but I think for someone who's just starting out. It can be a bit overwhelming to try to incorporate all that information and as you said that quotas simple as possible but no simpler. Some of them are too complicated. Some of it is too simple. Some of the the strategy aimed at begin is play super tight you. You can't lose a big pot. If you're not in the big pot stick to the most premium of hands and then you'll never have too many big disasters at the table well that's actually too simple especially for tournaments because you won't get enough left to contend into tournament if you play that way and so. I think books aimed at beginners tend to be too simple and then books that are trying to get into the the greater complexity in theory of poker are great for more advanced players but they're not a good place for people to start especially if they want to win money along the way. I I I think if you want to at least be able to compete and not get crushed when you're starting out in poker and you don't want it to be either to simpler too complicated. That's kind of the Path I was trying to tread with this book the game plan if you're like me that gap in the in the chess world as well and I think some of it comes down to the aspirational quality of players who want to get better that they do really want very advanced material even if they are amateurs and sometimes it's good to go for that aspirational material because it can be very motivational but but up to a point yeah that's definitely true in chess in my experience especially player like myself who basically intermediate level player far from an expert speaking of chess you were actually a finalist in the my chest poker game competent which Iran and your entry was challenged. Jess without getting into all the details of how your game worked your game introduced the concept of bluffing into chess and I thought it was very interesting because blessings really one of the hardest things for anyone in poker especially amateurs collaborate correctly and usually as you pointed out with Jack Deuce example. If you're trying to mix that hand it would be very difficult because you probably either drastically under-blown or drastically overblown off. What kind of advice do you give them. The Game Plan for players who are struggling with that. You're following the game plan. You shouldn't be factoring in emotion into the equation should basically Petersburg following instructions so essentially if if a player has the Prefab Initiative in the game plan and their heads up to the flop they always bet and then if they're multi way I bet if they have some kind of draw or some kind of hand and then on the turn regardless of how many opponents they have the only bluffs would be semi bluffs essentially so any kind of draw would become come the bluffing range and then on the river. I basically just say think of the worst hand you could possibly have at this point and bluff with that one so it's not of course the game theory we optimize solution for bluffing but I think it's the and this is the whole idea behind the book is that all my recommendations sort of mimic what the optimal strategy would look like they're oversimplified applied but they'll be close enough that player probably won't get to crushed playing the strategy as long as you're bluffing more on the top of the turn and more on the turn than on the river and as long long as your turn bluffs have some equity in them and then as long as you're river bluffs are not hands. You shouldn't be bluffing with like your medium medium strain hands. You're going to be more or less playing a reasonable strategy and and that's kind of like the entire ethos of the game plan so emotion should now be factor into it even though it probably does factor into it for these players now and so that's that's kind of why. I want to write the book to try to stop them from allowing their emotions and their fears and their aspirations to take over. I guess the kind of the broad ideas that a lot of poker instruction obstruction to this point has been that you start out playing really tight or you start out. Maybe not playing especially well and you learn the theory and the concepts and you kind kind of started cooperating them as they make sense to you and eventually after really studying you can you can move up from being this losing player to someone whose ideas are actually winning ideas at the table and who has a strong approach overall whereas I'm saying okay. We're GONNA hijack that approach. You're gonNA spend a week or two or more or less. Depending how much time you have studying the game plan learning how to execute it and then you'll immediately go to being a reasonable player and then you can still do everything else you would have done on without having read the game plan. You can still read more poker literature. You can still continue your training. You can still start learning poker theory and the concepts but in the meantime if you're following the game plan. You'll be doing better at the felt than you would have been otherwise and hopefully as you start reading some literature. You'll see where some of the ideas in the game plan come from for example this bluffing the frequency thing. We were just talking about like Oh yeah that's why man has us betting a lot in the flop and then a little less than the turn and then unless still and the river it's because it makes sense from a theoretical standpoint point and hopefully those kind of revelations will happen a lot at someone is learning the game and they'll realize that maybe the plan of okay. Here's the seven things you should think about when deciding whether weather to continuation bet why that makes sense for professionals but why might be a bit too much for someone who's just starting out rates will find something that kind of reinforce what they're learning. They're also find contradictions predictions and they give obviously having checking range as well as betting range even with the initiative. I'm going to be curious to see and I it's good because I think there is like a mini. He knew poker boom going on with so much great poker content going out there and potential legislation coming to states like my own way. I think there's a new hunger for this type of thing. Actually I've I am surprised when I give events. People are off always asked me for like a beginner's poker book and it's hard because there's not really a lot from the recent times at least right and and some of them are even potentially out of print so yeah it seems like you you picked a good time to write this book now speaking of right and I know that you're also a fiction writer and what's some of your favorite writing about poker and do you have any fiction writing in the works. Yes I've been working on a novel for a while. Now I put it aside to work on on the game plan for this year essentially but now the game plan is finishing up halted by the time. Your listeners are hearing this game. Plan should be available from Amazon now. That's finishing Michigan up. I'm planning to get back to the novel Esra Poker writing that I've enjoyed on the classics of the Literature Alvarez Tony Holden's big doc deal those those are fantastic to me. I don't know if they've really been topped. The AD in terms of Polka writing I was trying to do a bit of no macho the great books with the making of poker player but I don't pretend that I like I still like the making poker player that gets a good book. It was a good exercise for me at the time to try to tell the story of how I learned to play poker through the narrative and I wrote it before. I was any kind of name in the poker world. I wrote the making of a poker player when I was just this Grad student who played poker decided supplement not even supplement to have have some spending money or any money at all really while while in Grad School for fiction writing and I had those books in mind when I when I wrote to making a poker player but to me that kind of poker writing maybe overly romance is the game a little but that's kind of fun. I really love those books. Biggest game in town and big deal introduced me recommended me a bio yeah Colson Whitehead Yeah. It's it's called the Noble Hustle which that book is Great. I I guess call me for not mentioning that I feel I'm in that book so I I feel like it somehow not okay for me to recommend it because I'm a character in the book but to fund book. I think it's hysterical. Actually the noble hustle by Colson Whitehead he played the world series of Poker Main van on assignment from the now defunct website Graham land several years ago and I tweeted hat him while he was flying in like hey if you want to some advice from someone who is somewhat literary. I'm happy to give you some poker chips in the low behold he took me up on it and so we established a sort of poker coach player Dynamic and he went to annex city after that to play some other poker and so I became a character in his tail of learning earning poker and who he met along the way and he has a very different take on it than anyone else I would say but I think it's I think it's a great book. Would I really loved about it was just so hilarious and that's it's not as easy to do. I think with poker or anything he had to carry off humor page after page after page is different from having a lot of good. One liners are think like the writing is really generous. Empathetic really goes out of its way to not mock anyone associated with the game or with a nontraditional lifestyles tells people you might only come across and poker rooms. That's something that while not the most obvious draw to the book something. I really appreciate it about it. I had Maria Kinda cove on a couple of episodes ago. She said that she feels that writers are inherently agree poker players if they try if they apply themselves because so much of both professions is playing. Thank paying attention to the minute details yeah. I would agree with that. I mean for the most part I'm sure I've met plenty of writers who would not make good talker players. I think in general general's she's definitely right and there are a lot of similarities between writing and poker. The logic is an overriding force in both Manipur narrative doesn't make sense chance you're not going to have much from the standpoint. Colson is a perfect example. He's kind of I don't WanNa say he's the reason I wrote the game plan but when Colson Whitehead came to me before the main event of world series when he was writing his piece. I asked him what his plan was going to play super tight and I said okay. Can I change that plan completely in the next two days before you're playing the main event because that's that's just the advice people get but someone who's smart and who can pick up on details and who can read people even if they were ranked beginner should not be playing that way in the main event at the world series and so so that's that's really why. I wrote the game plan and that's really why think Marie is onto something where if someone just takes not just writers but people but people who are detail oriented people who are good at analyzing other other people and who are good at reading people reading situations can probably adapt themselves or at least learn to become pretty good poker players. Thank you for taking a hand. That's probably one that not too many the other people are GonNa Wind Yeah. I kind of wanted to do as queen at first but you said do this. Jack do suited hand. I said okay. I like that one too so we'll we'll make it a little easier for you in and this is quest. You've set up for yourself to cover all the possible starting hands in hold on. I'll be really curious if you can actually finish this jam but I wouldn't put anything past you. I'll tell you that yeah well thank you. I you know I once went on a an alphabetic diet where I ate from A to Z for twenty days and I finished that so oh I did lose a little weight by the way so I think that does make some sense although the end of that sounds hard because you have the cue towards the end and then Z. and so and you've already ready probably kind of got tired of the Diet at that point so yeah imagine that was difficult actually get to the finish line. This will be hard only because there's so many and after you've already already come across one hundred people who've taken probably all the most common hands and now you need to fill out nine three off soon kings seven off suit and everything in between Queen Queen foresee eventually. There's going to be a real. It's going to be a real effort on your part to try to finish by which you all the luck and again. I think you're GONNA do it. You shouldn't do whatever you set yourself too and that's that's what's amazing one of the main things. That's amazing about you jen. Well thank you so much. I feel at that point. Maybe some people are gonNA come to me. I'll get a spreadsheet not together. Maybe I'll have somebody interview me about a hand plans about how to work towards the end. I like that okay good. Thanks again that and and I hope to see you soon and congratulations on the game plan. Oh thanks John Appreciate it. If you'd like what you heard please subscribe and Writer Review Your Subscriptions Reviews Shares on Social Media truly helps motivate me as a quest for one hundred sixty-nine intensifies also so find a US chested women where host another podcast ladies night and follow updates on the grid had gen shoddy on twitter and instagram now they say oh no no needs on my sleeve your ah you won't see me see me nervous. Rio saying.

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7-26-19 What's News

The Nicole Sandler Show

06:00 min | 1 year ago

7-26-19 What's News

"It's time for Nicole Sandler's what's news from Nicole Sandler Dot Com and the progressive voices network on the heels of Robert Muller's testimony and warning that Russian interferences continuing quote as we sit here. The Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday released a bipartisan report on Russian election interference. The report found that the U._S. election infrastructure was unprepared are to combat quote extensive activity by Russia that began in two thousand fourteen and carried on at least into twenty seventeen the report found that the Russians took advantage of our decentralized voting system exploiting seems between Federal <music> oversight and State Election Systems and also found that election cybersecurity was quote sorely lacking in two thousand sixteen and that federal attempts to warn states about potential security breaches quote did not provide enough information or go to the appropriate people election databases weren't a secure as they should be an aging voting machines with no paper trail or vulnerable. You think if you think Congress can fix this well. You might rethink that Senate majority. Majority leader Mitch McConnell on Thursday blocked to house bills that would have beefed up state election systems a divided House of Representatives on Thursday pastor two year budget deal that would raise spending by hundreds of billions of dollars over existing listing caps and raise the debt ceiling during that time amid grumbling from fiscal conservatives over the measures effect on the federal deficit. Only sixty five Republicans joined all but sixteen in the Democratic majority in the two eighty Ford one forty nine vote on Thursday the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing on family separation and U._S.. Customs and Border Protection short-term custody under the trump administration committee chairman jerrold Nadler showed his discussed while questioning being CBC's chief of Law Enforcement Operations Brian Hastings mother and father informed in the kids I mean how is this supposed to happen. The mother and father is informed at some point today. Your kid is going to be taken away in the middle of the night. Someone comes snatches the kid I take it. That's not what supposed to happen. What is supposed to happen so we would inform the mother father of the charges and the reason and provide them the time to to say goodbye to the child Georgia's and the reason the time in advance? Yes how far in advance it's going vary depending upon the sorry for hours minutes seconds. Don't know what specific one you're talking to. What's the minimum time have a minimum time so it could be ten minutes could be after it was determined? At the adult was being deported was the child supposed to be returned to the parent before the deportation or the or the parent is suddenly and some foreign country and the child is here. It's probably a better question for H._H._S.. Who did the deportation we would do? The deport do deportation while the child was in a different city in the United States. We don't do the reunification of my point so you would do the deportation before the unification without any knowledge of whether the parents are being reunified. Yes in other words you kidnapping the Child Not Kidnapping the child guidelines that are out that wording apparent without their child is literal kidnapping and with that the house is now adjourned for six week long August recess leaving the question of opening and impeachment Richmond inquiry until its return in September note. The August recess is a good time to visit your representative while they're in their home district. Many of them even have town hall meetings attend. Tell them what you think. In the wake of molars testimony on Wednesday four more House Democrats announced their support for opening impeachment inquiry including Congresswoman Katherine Clark as the House Democratic Caucus Vice Chair. She's the highest ranking Democrat in the house to call four impeachment inquiry according to C._N._N.. That count now stands at ninety. Six Sixteen Marines have been arrested on human smuggling and drug related offenses C._N._N.. Has More Sixteen U._S.. Marines under arrest for human. Human smuggling and drug offenses taken into custody while lined up for morning roll-call at Camp Pendleton California another eight Marines under questioning for drug offenses inside the core. There is concerned earned the misconduct may be even more widespread the navy taking the rare step of kicking an entire platoon of elite seals known as silting seven out of Iraq for drinking alcohol in a war zone that is against regulation. The twenty are headed back to San Diego for possible disciplinary action. An investigation is underway to determine if other violations including sexual assault occurred and finally an AV aid for the conservative insertive student group turning point U._S._A.. was fired Thursday after Donald Trump appeared on the stage in front of a parody image of the presidential seal at its teen student action summit as trump took the stage Tuesday morning a screen green behind him showed a fake presidential seal featuring a two-headed eagle which comes directly from the state seal of the Russian Federation clutching a set of golf clubs in its talents. The guy who created the graphic a couple of years ago is now basking in its popularity selling merchandise with the fake logo emblazoned on it and that's just a bit of what's news for now. I'm Nicole Sandler with an announcement beginning next week.

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Ep 753 | HEARTBREAKING Video Emerges of Migrant Boy Abandoned at Border | Guest: Jill Savage

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Ep 753 | HEARTBREAKING Video Emerges of Migrant Boy Abandoned at Border | Guest: Jill Savage

"This episode is brought to you by nissan nissan. Believes when you start your engine. It should start something in you. When you hit the pedal you should get something back in other words driving should make you feel alive. And if your car doesn't thrill you there's nissan that will this is the nissan learn more at nissan. Usa dot com today a heartbreaking viral video and abandoned ten-year-old migrant boy found crying in the middle of the texas desert. Arkansas is the first state to ban transgender surgery for minors. Though the senate had to overturn the governor's veto to do so. And united airlines says it wants fifty percent of their pilots to be women or people of color. We've got all that and a lot more coming up and it starts right now. Welcome to the news. why matters. I'm hillary kennedy back at the table filling in for sarah gonzales. I'm excited to be back for lots of reasons but one of them being. I've got two of the coolest guests at the table today. Started with mr jason patrol one of my favorites head writer chief researcher for glenn beck against and then i just met jill savage. You're a former sports reporter and just all around great wonderful girl. Thank you happy to be here again. For no in iowa. Yeah we're glad to have you back all right so i was talking with joel beforehand. We we are starting to show with something that is going to take on an emotional roller coaster this story. It's really hard to watch. It's the us patrol. They've released this video taken by an agent who was approached by an abandoned ten year old migrant boy He was in the texas desert near the us mexico border. We've got a clip. Take a look. Thank you for your email. Only smith serving the storm. Look i'm a comp- up your golden amount of you and new. Hope he will be aena dog. You know you'll you were driven new. It hurts your heart. I it just. It was hard to watch. I want to get your thoughts on the video first before we talk about some of the details. But what are your initial thoughts. Just seeing that joe when you see that in in is the news and white matters. That's why the situation on the border matters. Because we've seen the guys you know the guerillas that are bringing them across the border. They don't have any any nurturing characteristics about them they don't care they get the money they bring the kids over and then this child ten years old as left overnight. The story said that he was out. There were rattlesnakes and whatnot. This story ended up. Well we're a border patrol agent found him but there's going to be how many of these same instances where they don't have that fortunate outcome of of somebody actually coming up in finding them you jason saw. I think the the date of this thing is around april first april second something like that and that was right when they also got the video of them throwing the two sisters all these human traffickers. Don't care so. I'll say this they don't give a crap like the biden administration doesn't get a crap about these people. They're working directly with cartels organized. Crime i i. I mean this is sad. It gets even more sad when he really look into what happens I think it was like it was like eight out of ten women or raped While making this journey as well specifically when when they're about to get you know cross the border These are very very bad people. And yeah the doesn't doesn't care about this. They they continue to make that issue a probably. If it wasn't for russia would be their number. One issue was the wall. What trump was doing for immigration. And all that stuff. Even the record amounts of People were getting turned away. This was getting better everything it does. It doesn't matter who you ask the people that are actually doing actual journalism and they're going across the border and saying hey. Why did you decide to come down. They said we'll because biden you you know made it pretty clear that we're gonna be able to come across and we're gonna be able to the united states that's it i mean there's there's no other way to look at it that they enabled the situation to happen there enabling the bad people to get even more rich Last time i looked it was worth the money that cartels are making on. You know extorting these people in and helping them to get across. The border is rivaling what they're making and drug money today. It's absolutely insane. This is going to get worse. It's going to go says absolutely on the biden administration. I saw today that he said that We can't afford to do nothing on on infrastructure so they're really pushing homeopathic plan while you're doing nothing on the border it is a crisis and they better get moving right. Well as mentioned the boy did survive. Thankfully the agent did take the child into his vehicle. Get him to safety but he had survived throughout the night in an area of the desert. Were there are wild animals. In rattlesnakes the border patrol chief. Brian hastings. He shared the video with cnn to underscore the concern over the danger associated with the increase in unaccompanied children. He said migrant families are self separating in mexico sending those children alone to cross into the us after having first been expelled. What can the the biden administration do to stop it. What do you think they can start doing today right now or do you think it's too late. I think they have to address it right you. You can't just go on and pretend like nothing is really happening down there right. He put kamala harris in charge of the border and she hasn't done anything yet. There has been no statement guys stopped coming over. We can't take any more. Please stay where you are. Because it is heartbreaking when you see this family decided that this was their best course of action. This was the best thing that they could do for. Their family was to send the ten year old boy with a bunch of strangers across the border until the biden administration tart starts to take the seriously. We're going to continue to see this because people are going to say. I need to get my kids over there. They're not turning them away in if ever. Do grant amnesty. I need my kid to already be in the united states. What we've already got. I think in dallas texas at our convention center. We have about twenty three hundred Unaccompanied i think. Thirteen to seventeen year old male children. That are there. And they've been there for. I think since mid-march so the policy and they they came over just like this little boy with the group on their own but just like you mentioned they were self. They're they're separating on purpose because they know the policy right now is that they hold them there until they can figure out where to ship them off in the united states. Now the people are doing this. We're not stupid. They've got well. Actually there are. They are kind of being stupid if they're doing this to their kids but They have a plan and they know they. They've got relatives or in chicago or new york or whatever and they know that if they give the telephone number and the name all the you know fema and hhs they will contact them and then they'll get shipped over to where their families are. That's what happens. Then they're kinda play. The waiting game chain migration takes effect to eventually and then you have multiple multiple multiple people coming over and they're using their little kids to do this. It's absolutely ridiculous. So the first thing that i would do is you have to make it clear that the policy is not to take them. Hold them for a while and put them in other parts of the united states. The policy should be well. Yeah we're still going to hold them but we're gonna get them back to you. We're not going to continue to do this. And enable this anymore The second thing they do is they have to address something that was. We were talking about jill last week. Is they've got to make Legal migration easier right. But but they won't do that because that would mean they actually have a heart and they give a crap about immigrants which they don't they use them as a tool but if they made illegal immigration easier if there will tell apply for citizenship from consulates in and they're in their own countries and they weren't stupid like and i've told the story of a million times but my father in law was a was an immigrant from mexico and He spent i think ten years thousands and thousands of dollars with a lawyer. Everything was legal. That is insane so if you have any same person is looking at that and i. I can't afford that. I'm not gonna do that. That's what he. I just want to go and work. Make it easier for these. People are the ones that we wanna come over. They want to get a job. They wanna be you know they wanna pay taxes. They want to be members of society. Make it easier for them. So they'll have to do this. It's so true as a couple of friends One from canada mexico and they said the exact same thing that it took forever. It was incredibly expensive and difficult. And that's why these kinds of things make them so upset. Because i jumped through all the hoops. I did everything right. And we've got people that are risking their lives and putting your children's lives at risk for this. And if i can this is this is why the right as lost the culture on this because the left very craftily were able to say that we don't have a heart on this and then oh they're the ones that have the huge hearts because we just want them to come in they don't they want to use it as political leverage if anyone on any side actually cared bathe address immigration reform right at the at the foundation. Make it easier. Make it more make it make more sense and not be such so difficult to do. Cutting through bureaucratic red tape though is a lot harder than than they want it to be. Well this is interesting The department of homeland security is reportedly considering restarting some border wall construction since this crisis seems to just keep escalating so biden's homeland security secretary. One hundred may orcas now opening open to starting up construction again on some sections of former president. Trump's border wall something. That biden was completely against while he was on the campaign trail because on his first day in office biden ordered all the construction to cease but said customs and border protection. Officials had submitted a plan for the construction moving forward. So did you see this coming. No no i. I assume that they pretty much do everything. The trump administration was doing. I didn't actually. I didn't think they jumped on the wall so fast. But it's the obvious thing that's needed in this case. It's so ridiculous. Joe biden's show remember like right. When he was inaugurated he went straight to the oval office and he wanted to be seen as the guy undoing. Everything trump did. The wall was part of it. All the immigration stuff was part of it was a show. Now look what that show has has what it's done to us. The the only thing he was concerned with was just making it look like he was the guy that did everything the orange guy did. It's only early april. This didn't last very long. You didn't get the real big. You know that you wanted out of undoing all the trump things because we're back here so quickly. I don't think that they anticipated being here. Maybe maybe over. The summer may become fall. But in april where we are right now this to already be the story that it is front and center into the crisis that it's at We walls work. You know why because they're around d. c. right now around all of our politicians so wait you get to see them when when they're trying to save themselves but on the southern border you know the the politics of that look a little different and and they want all those political points Until you mentioned this little bit earlier about calling harris where she been on this She's gone fourteen days without any news conference since she's been tapped for her role in the border crisis so she's been avoiding this. Us mexico visit even though she was in southern california over easter weekend so she was right in that backyard. She had time to be at her. Los angeles area home. She baked a beautiful pork roast and made rice for the holiday. She was in oakland to help. Promote infrastructure plan visit some local businesses. She threw support for Governor gavin newsom while she was there but oddly enough she did not have time to go down to the border. So do you actually think harris will be able to fix anything with the border crisis if she hasn't done anything yet. I think that one is something that she just doesn't want to address it. I think that she's going to see how this plays out in the next few weeks but biden didn't give a press conference for how long why should she have to go. Go take on the crisis of all crises right now in in the southern border. If if you could get away with it then i mean you know she might be doing some of the same when you look at it. I thought this is one of those situations where you know like. She was writing on the note card. Like i will be taking over this living in over. I don't think that's true anymore with the reaction that she had. You did. See the branding of the biden harris administration and giving her a lot of that political clout you know on their twitter profile everywhere that they are i. Just don't know you know. She was busy remodeling her. Vp house that she was going to be moving into so maybe she was a little bit busy over there. But i thought she would take this on and try and become the leader. Poor for what i think we all kind of think is coming and i think she can't because what they were preaching that they were. They were the morality police when it comes to immigration. Now they've always realized this but now they're going. They got a problem because they're like. How do we sell to the american public. That what we're gonna do is any different from. What trump did spoiler alert. There's not going to be a single bit of difference. They're both going to do the same thing. obama was the chief They did call him that but hardly call them out at all for putting in cages. And all that stuff. What else are you going to. They're going to have to do the same thing. There's no way that they can morality themselves out of this. I did see when they announced her. They said that she was going to focus on what was it. The root causes In the countries where they leave. I'm sorry but that is not our problem. The root causes of el salvador and the gang problems or the or the fact that their economy sucks. It's not our problem. That is their problem. So she's spent all of her time in that southern triangle with those guatemala all those countries That's not going to fix anything here. It's not because if we keep incentivizing them to come down here. I mean they're going to. They're gonna try to continue to do these. Things are gonna continue to enable the situation that has a little kids you know stuck out in the texas desert Sheens down to the border what she needs to do. She needs to talk to the ranchers that you know the the their livelihoods are completely upended right. Now they're the ones endanger and they need to finish the wall. I mean i know they wanted to score points with the wall and say it's racist. They did say it was racist there now. I guess building that racist wall anyway. Those are the things she should be doing. But i think that she's going to continue this kind of like that homer simpson me or he comes back as long as she's thinking about those root causes while she's making her pork rest easy all right so we got to go to break. I want to thank our sponsor keeps. You've got a million reasons to be stressed out. These days. Right stressing out about your male pattern baldness receding hairline. That doesn't have to be one of them. The good news is that keeps can help because keeps offers the same doctor recommended. Fda approved hair loss treatment but they are the generic version. So you only pay about half the cost and it is a great deal and one more thing that you're gonna love about keeps you can do everything online. You answer questions you step a few picks of your hair and a licensed doctor will review your info and then recommend the right hair loss treatment for you. It's shipped to your door. 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I'll give you some background. Under the bill. Physicians are banned from giving gender confirming hormone treatment. Puberty blockers or surgery to those younger than eighteen. It also restricts doctors from giving recommendations to other providers for these treatments so jason would start with your thoughts on. Can't believe this is a conversation nowadays is this is insane. I will i will. Previous was about to say with republicans conservatives libertarians. We all need to shape up really really fast. The arguments are having. Don't mean jack right now. There were like old men you know looking like the muppets. Oldman up in dc stuff like that. Like okay yeah. I'm a i'm libertarian. Light so yes. I'm all for tax cuts. You know all that but this right here is one of the big issues in the country right now we are completely losing the culture and soul this country come on Prescribing they're talking about chemical castration. Is what they're talking about. How is that even a thing The governor was on tucker carlson yesterday last night. Right like last night and he was making a. I mean you have to watch it. It's all over the place right now but you have to watch it tucker completely annihilates this dude and i i was eating popcorn so great right there with you. Oh my gosh. So good dude. But he was making the case he actually was making the case he was a limited government guy right so he like i'm limited government. So i'm not gonna. I don't think the government should step in okay. This is another huge issue. The gop gop today sucks it sucks. Because how can you explain limited government when you clearly don't even know the role of the government in the first place right and again. I'm libertarian light. so i don't think the government has much parole anyway. But i do think they do as a national defense obviously setting international trade stuff like that the courts constitutional law stuff like that. Even though it's kinda damp and a little bit. What even with off. We're down to states and county and local but that's pretty much about it but what they do have a mandate to do is to protect protection of people check themselves. I little children like this Are about to get puberty blockers and chemically castrated. That's when the governor can step in and say no. I'm sorry we are. We are stepping in and taking care of more protecting this child You can if you're gonna make a limited government case here in a limits your but right out of the conversation and just get the heck out. He is the reason why we got trump in the first place. Really if you supported trump. but you didn't like him. Because i was a little bit too brash. This is why right this is going to happen. More i saw there was the governor of north. Las vegas was a democrat. He just switched over. Do you think he's going to start. You know making conservative policies. All of a sudden his town no because we have guys like him like all these people. They're not conservative. The not going to do a conservative is one. The overton window is sliding further and further until left further and further. And if we don't start attacking these cultural issues head on were done. But jason invoking reagan so as long as you say that third there and your governor in the south like hey everything should be go jazz reagan in deeper and to your point of chemical castration. For four miners. It's one of those things that you don't let kids smoke. Drink vote get tattoos. They can't do anything themselves. But you are telling them that under eighteen at whatever age as long as your parents is okay and you find a willing doctor. You can stop and change your life forever. I know amazon down. One of those books about transgenderism and it wasn't even a hit piece on it. It was just kind of laying out the facts in in in that book said some of those specific cases where can went through and had some of these chemical blockers and went through with the surgery and they regretted it later in life. I think that this is still very new topic in a lot of conversation. I think we have to let this go a little bit longer to see if kids that have already had this. What does their life look like in five or ten years. Is this something that there is even a defensible case to allow this because in my position it's not right but if you're going to have this conversation as a whole we need some more background but before you you can even go out and just say this needs to be a law where we're going to demand that you do this in our state. There's go ahead. i'll just say. I talked military recruiter especially because it was like last week with the pentagon finally got rid of those restrictions transgender in the military. And i was talking to think about this and he goes well right now. We're having the trainer thing now is not an issue. Like if you say that. Then that's not disqualifier but this is what is the disqualifier is all the accompanying you know mental issues. That almost every single. He's a ninety percent of them. Have and if you have these like depression anxiety all these things. He said ninety percent of them have them. Sometimes it's the percentage is higher than that and they get taken down before that Genitive story is mental issue. I mean i'm sorry how you feel about it. It's a mental issue What's ridiculous. And i'm kind of going off track here. But the military thing anyone that's ever tried to go into the military you go through a medical screening and this is a little tmi but you're all in there basically naked and they go through and they're just looking for ways anything medical thing they can look just kind of take a magnifying glass. Look for looking for a way to disqualify you and you'll see people drop out of the stupidest little stuff the military want to pay for the care for that. You know they want to concentrate on warfighting. Now they're going to concentrate on helping them transition even when they're already in and keeping up with the medication they need the hormones and all that stuff. It's it's a world upside down. It's it sounds like fiction. Well we don't have a lot of time to talk about it. But there are parents of a non binary autistic child that said. The child at six years old said they wanted to be called they and consider themselves a boy girl. Does this make any sense for a six year old to be able to say i'm a boy girl and then the parents automatically go. Well we need to start referring to our child. Is they and no going down that road because in the late eighties early nineties. There was a movie called kindergarten cop boy in kindergarten that stands up and says boys have a penis and girl. It's a classic scene movie kindergarten cop. It was that elementary that we knew in kindergarten. This is what it was boys vs girls. We are now looking at our six year olds and saying oh you know they might say there are cat one day. Are we going to pretend now. That like okay. You're you're a superhero. Your cat your whatever you claim to be on this specific day. No you're the adults in the room. And i'm sorry but the kid didn't just come up with this idea out of nowhere. Well that's what's interesting. They said that their son always preferred female characters. When it came to action figures he would watch fairy movies. Draw dressing says the turkmen. Act like a boy other days and they said you know. There's there's lots of ways to be a boy in lots of ways to be a girl so now they've started putting this child in special needs camps and spend a lot of time explaining nonbinary to the curious and attending nonbinary meetups to further their child's comfort level with the announcement what of long-term damaging that you were talking about this being a mental issue. What kind of long term damage do you think this is going to do. This child because the parents are really feeding into it encouraging it out there and considerable long-term permanent damage All kinds of mental issues What happens if they continue this. Go further with it and do some kind of transition and then when he's eighteen is like what the heck's going on i i- famous family story i used to tie nintendo controllers to my waist with the cord dangling in the back and i told her a robot clearly clearly good in transition meets a like a cyborg or something like that right mom. I'm a robot. The point is an. You've made the point as well as kids say. They're all kinds of crap all the time i was stupid. Yeah and i agree with you when you said that. This didn't come from nowhere. No this probably came from his parents. Because you didn't know what the heck that is my now. i'm. I'm sure. I don't know what i'm sure. His parents are probably activists on this or even if they're not you can't even turn the tv on now are even watch shows. Because they're injecting it non stop into every single tv show commercial. Everything i mean what. What is the the cases of generous for you. You know even twenty years ago where basically nothing. Now they're skyrocketing because it's getting thrust onto everybody think the trendy thing all right got to go to break we'll be right back. Stick around interesting. I think if you're a woman or person of color and you've always wanted to be a pilot. This is good news for you. United airlines says that it wants fifty percents of their pilots trained in the next decade to be women are people of color so they want to increase that they said our flight deck should reflect the diverse group of people on board our planes every day. That's why we plan for fifty percent of the five thousand pilots. We trained in the next decade to be women or people of color. This got a lot of criticism on twitter with people saying hiring people based on race and gender rather than on talent can be dangerous but united followed up that criticism by saying all the highly qualified candidates we accept into the academy regardless of race or sex. we'll have met or exceeded the standards. We set for admittance so by saying that. Does this mean they were discriminating. Before this i mean i would. I would think that they have in for a while. So sorry jason. By the way you're out you have no shot so if my if you're a white male in this country you better start your own business. Because i don't know who is going to be hiring you down the road. Hillary and we we still have a chance chance if we want to be pilots but yeah it's it's going to be shrinking as we continue on in life. But it's just one of those things where i think it was cigna a couple of weeks ago. They had a story where they knew that it was a male that was applying for a job and they were like no. You can't hire him because he's a white male and it's just spreading from healthcare now airlines. You're going to see all over the place it's like if you're a white male again like what are you going to do in the country a future. How is this going to help us as a country right. That's what i remember. I mean that's probably the first thing that goes through your mind. You know while the plane is about to crash. You know you're saying our prayers and i wonder what the pigment The skin of the people. That's flying right now. And what are their private parts like Like yeah This is absolutely ridiculous. Maybe that robot absolutely ridiculous especially so there's this thing that Been talking about over the past month or so but he's been calling out. Esp scores environment social and governance. And you're seeing some of these companies like coca cola. They make a very sugary drink. It's delicious but i'm not really going to drink anymore. I don't think Ah airlines delta united. They're making all these big. Social justice stands out of nowhere. Like coca-cola doesn't i mean i'm sure you're probably you wouldn't think they would get a good. Espn score based on their business model. You wouldn't think that united would get good. Ese score because they're not very environmentally. You know a productive or whatever how many metric tons of carbon to the release every single year and their planes. Now they know that they would get a low score so what they're doing now is. They're compensating for compensating. On the s part of it like well how socially woke an awesome. Can we be so. They're making these huge grand gestures right now because they know the hammer is about to drop. These standards are going into effect right now and people and companies Financial susan's banks. They're going to be graded on how woke. They are environmentally. You know You know responsive they are. They know this is coming down the pipe the no. They know they're gonna be held accountable. So you're seeing all of them. Come out now and do this. That's what this is all about jason. I don't know about you. But i think the country is better since we've all gone woke. I mean there's so much unity everybody's getting along. It's going so well with everybody going. Look so. I don't see why we can't keep this up. In accelerates. i held hands with twelve people on the way to work well. It's going really well in georgia too. I mean all of this is working so well for them But president joe biden. He did refuse to call for the masters tournament to leave georgia after he pushed for major league baseball to boycott the state. We have a clip He just said you know that he finds it reassuring. These big companies are speaking out against the new jim crow laws but he also said this can hurt people. Let's let's take a listen to. The clip is reassuring to see that for profit operations. Businesses are speaking up about how these new. Jim crow laws anesthetic. Who we are. There's another side to the other side to a two is when in fact move out of georgia. The people who need the help the most people making hourly wages sometimes get hurt most. I think it's a very tough decision for corporations to make or group to make but i respect when they make that judgment and support whatever judgment they make. But it's the best way to deal with this is for georgia and other states to smarten up. He speaks so quickly. Can't keep up so last week. President biden did endorse the idea of the mlb moving it's all star game out of atlanta. Saying he would strongly support that move but then two days after his public statement. The georgia boycott. Mlb commissioner rob manfred announced that the league's decision to follow through with his wishes. But holly quinlan. She's president and ceo of cobb travel and tourism. She said georgia's tourism industry will take at least a one hundred million dollar hit in lost business due to the mlb moving its events. Does this make any sense to you. Know one hundred million is. That's that's that's minimum. I would say. I remember when the superbowl came here It's that's that's a lot more. Obviously you don't even you don't really understand the impact until you've actually seen it like of these events been in your city like bars had cases and cases and pile piles of beer on standby because they knew the masses are gonna start to come in. There's sunday think about all the money they've already spent. That will now go wasted because of this. So over one hundred million dollars has just been ripped out of this community. Who do you think that affects the most. Who do you think that affects the most the workers that are working the minimum wage job stuff like that that affects the people that are disenfranchised that people are really struggling right now that's about effects them. After a year of all of those people counting on things like to kind of make up for everything. They lost last year during the pandemic so joe. Do you think that by naturally expected. And i'll be to move the all star game when he was encouraging it or do you think he was just like a publicity move there now. I think he thought that they would because this is what corporations are getting behind. They need to be woke. They need to know and be on record now. This is how we stand and what we expect moving forward so when you hear the president of the united states come out and say that. Why would you not follow suit. But i'm glad that he said that we are not moving the masters any longer one. Its this week. So that would have been a little difficult to do to find something to replace the masters and also if it's sunday of the masters and it's anywhere else besides augusta you don't have amen corner and then it's not the masters anymore. Gymnast says it's a tradition. Unlike any other in. We're keeping that one. I don't care what biden says the masters is going to be there and all new story it's going to blow over. It's not going to be a problem next year. That's what they're counting on. I think they got the benefit of the doubt because it happened so close to their start time than there is nothing that they could do. So they're like all right. We're we're just going to weather this storm. We'll say that you know as people are suffering now in georgia over this or are going to because because this lunacy happened it's all because they're trying to again use this as leverage some leverage based off of a lie attributing this to jim. Crow laws okay. That's stupid that's ludicrous. That's dumb makes no sense who's gonna say. Oh no it's not well. No one's obviously no one's doing their homework on this at all because no no one's obviously read any of the any any of the any of their voting laws. No one's read about what's what's actually in it so basically they're just making sure that you have an id. There's other stupid little things that mean. Nothing they tried to make an issue of like aiding in line or something like that yet but this is basically about having an idea which something that i think. Eighty percent of americans agree with eighty percent. This and that goes across party lines to have an idea when you vote. I don't know about you. But i don't really care going state to state trying to figure out all their voting laws right like we're here in texas. I care what texas does now wooden georgia colorado new york do i care. No joy want to have this in the front headlines of the news every single day. No this we're making issues. And again. I i see that this one you know. There's there's reasons for it but can we just get back to things that actually matter agreed. Yeah politics is creeping into everything. I mean why. Why sports all right so we've got to go to break. We've got more to come stay with us. yeah. I'm glad that he backed off started to. Oh if you live in california. I have some good news for you. california's gonna be lifting all the covid nineteen restrictions except the mask mandate. So that's coming up on june fifteenth just in time for summer Governor gavin newsom said at a press conference yesterday morning that we're we're moving beyond the blueprint. We'll be getting rid of the colored tears we'll be moving past the dimmer switch. That's on june fifteenth if we continue the good work so he's saying everyone still needs to continue to wear face coverings continue to access. Vaccines continue to administer vaccines in an equitable framework. But if everyone can keep that pace the let everything open up again. This is pretty drastic. Considering texas and florida have been opened for quite awhile and you know he has no idea why texas is going the way that it is in all of our numbers are going down. But i think it's funny. Hillary that people can start getting their freedoms back in direct correlation with the governors and scandals or recalls. That game coming out. Oh oh you're going to recall me go ahead. We're we're going to open things back up right like it was in the news. Yesterday that caitlyn jenner might be running as a republican for the governorship of california. And it's like man gavin. Newsom needed needed a headline to take over that new cycle. So guess what everybody you can go out and play again -gratulations exactly the reason why he's doing this. I think it was like a week after they got the signatures. He announced that they were going to start lifting some things. And i i lived out there for like sixteen seventeen years a lot of family out there not considering really conservative. They're pretty much on the left side of the spectrum model but They pretty much said the same thing like all the reason why he's doing this. Because he's getting recalled. This is not a surprise to anyone if you live in. La lived there for a long time and a vast majority of the city is a lot especially in. The valley is a lot of mom and pop restaurants businesses stuff like that. They're the ones that had to suffer under this right. And if you live in la you live there now. You kind of know that. There's caste system in the city so you have a big kind of like mountain ranger hill. Range on the other side is like beverly hills. Bel air hollywood on the other side is the key valley. You know what i mean. So you either your the elites over here part of hollywood or your in service to the ones that are know in hollywood and all that and the people that were in the hollywood elites that live over the hills. Really effect you that much because they still let you go to work right. I remember that video where there was that lady that was sobbing. She was a business owner and she was showing video of that huge production chelsea. See that video is absolutely nuts showing everything they could do. She had a business right across the street so she pulled out all the tents and table. They eat out there. They didn't let her do it. But they let the hollywood moving moving guys do it like they know exactly how they're treated out there. I hope this is starting to shine. Some light on california. We had ronald reagan was governor from there and became. I mean come on you can get back to that. Maybe this will start. I hope june fifteenth their economy just starts recovering and everything gets back on track. But boy it's been a long time real quickly. We just have a couple of minutes Cbs news defended. Its reporting on sixty minutes. Deceptively edited those comments by florida governor. Rhonda's scientists they said we requested and conducted interviews with dozens of sources that authorities involved. They said the idea that we ignore this perspectives on true. We spoke on the record with Palm beach county. Mayor david kerner for over fifty years. The facts supported by sixty minutes. Often stirred debate and prompted strong reactions. Are story sunday night. Speaks for itself. Said they basically doubled down and said no we put out there was completely factual if we it then who's going to question us again. That's it's one of those things where i look at this story and if you have some friends on the left that haven't seen you know trump or you know. They didn't want to be a part of the discussion. This is a great learning opportunity. Show them the unedited video and then show them what sixty minutes put out and then show that they're trying to get away with it and no. There's nothing to see here guys. Just keep going on with their daily lives. I think this is one of those moments. You're saying if you're going to start bringing people back. This is one of those opportunities that you can do so. I said before that we have to concentrate on some of the big cultural issues. The bigger problems right now. The real problems and the media is definitely one of them They in many cases they are the enemy of the people. Right now stirring up crap blatantly lying about stuff. We have governor north virginia. He was wearing black face who's wearing kkk outfit. That was never clarified. And the media didn't care put him on it and they just completely let him go and forgot about it. That's forgotten right now. They would never do that to republican. It's so clear that they're just coming after the right they're coming up service comeback republicans and this. I mean every democrat. That was involved in. This scandal came out and defended the santa's so they're doubling down on the research when the people are saying well. No this is what actually how. What research were you doing. I cannot. They got caught red handed trying to spin. A narrative is what happened and the funny thing is the rest of the media. The i haven calling the mainstream anymore. Because they know they aren't mainstream but the rest of the legacy media. They're going to just go right along with it. Because they're all in on they were doing the whole deny until you die. Tactic like no. It was all perfectly factual. Do you think that they're going after santa's because they think he's going to run in two thousand twenty four. Absolutely you have to you know. Do whatever you can now to weaken him because he's only gonna grow stronger and from this. He has gotten so much stronger because the democrats in florida have seen the dishonesty as well so i think it's going to backfire for sure. I agree and not only that but he is pretty much the symbol of freedom in the face of this pandemic and he was proven right. That's why they have to go after him. Not only because he's got a probably should run if he's not thinking about it you'd better run But even if even if he doesn't he is the guy that said look conservative principles worked freedom worked or doing just fine. We're doing better than california better than new york. All these other places that are progressive hell holes. But yeah. He is the symbol. So you guarantee they're going to come after him even harder. Maybe he needs to write a book. Maybe he's right about how great he to be true. All right so we're going to go break. But yeah hope he runs in twenty twenty four to all right yeah. He's one of the few people that stuck with guys way. You know what we love hearing using why we love with you go and you rate and review our podcast or wherever you. Listen to your podcast. Please go subscribe re review. I want to read a couple of our reviews lately. Once i love coming home from work and watching your show and makes living in this upside down world we are in bearable. Keep up the good work. Love you all and then another person wrote love. This show i sent alarm on my watch. So i never miss an episode great balance between all guests and so much knowledge thrown out by all. Thank you sweet girl. Ninety two and silly me nineteen eighty three six five three two reviews. We really appreciate those. We would love to have more of them so please do that. And i wanna thank joe. Thanks for being here today. 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Soft Racism of Low Expectations | 3/30/21

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Soft Racism of Low Expectations | 3/30/21

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Golf would be pretty happy. going anywhere. and this extends all the way out to the red sea red sea more like collect for the as far as the eye can see now your alternates with resume and out here to the salve around the coast djibouti. Nothing doing there. You go all the way. Around down sound now your alternate madagascar. You can go left right. Both lanes are open. All around ten days really save you the five or six stuck. There will take you ten days. That's great that's better than just sitting for five or six days. Yeah yeah that's how. I am on the gps right even if it takes a little bit longer. You're going to go around it. He's moving. Yeah that was fun Canal traffic report Which by the way they finally got think floated and it's out of the way now but they said it'll it'll take days to unsnarl traffic through there. We don't run out of toilet paper over here in the meantime talking. That could be a consequence of this. I guess our toilet paper comes comes. Released the middle east asia or somewhere. Yeah i. I don't know what we need to do. Something about that can make it here. I'm please can we not. That didn't seem accurate when i heard it. Because can we not make enough clorox and toilet paper please. How tough is it. We're the greatest nation in the history of the world. We can't have no never innings supply toilet paper but we make it here. That's what i did understand. I don't know but Yeah they you. Don't we heard very little of his ship. Got stuck right yeah. was it intentional. You know this a terrorist thing if are nothing we just got a drawing of body parts on the on the little route thingy. Yeah which. I kind of think it was done intentionally. Paying it was. This whole thing was on purpose. We've heard nothing but the picture right then. The picture was weird. Enough is interesting to say. Okay come on. That didn't happen naturally right owes a storm. Nah okay also at the puerta. There's some traffic that we got unsnarl. We've operated eight hundred sixty one criminal illegals at the border so far this year in twenty twenty one in talking dozens of sex offenders brian hastings who oversees border patrol operations for the rio grande valley in texas said his agency. So this is just the rio grande valley area eight hundred sixty one criminal illegals or later found to have all kinds of offenses ninety two were sex offenders sixty three had gang ties. A law enforcement official included a photograph of a salvadoran man who was taken into custody with a prior conviction for murder noori about it within the copious amounts of groups being encountered in the rio grande valley salvadoran men with a prior conviction for murder discovered. And the just keeps. This just keeps happening. Also what we're finding are all bunch of russians syrians and iraqis being apprehended at the border. We were told. I'll come on. That's that's just not happening. you're not getting. You're not getting people from terrorist nations crossing the southern border. Why would they do that. It's too easy. So the biden administration spending three million dollars a day to house migrants at a detention center in dilley texas where the number of people from russia in the middle east crossing. The border from mexico is growing at an alarming rate. Even more alarming officials are being forced to catch and release without properly vetting them. Don't worry about it. I'm sure they're nice. Russians nice syrians and Really special people from iraq. I'm sure that's all. That's crossing our borders illegally. Only the best and brightest from. Yeah yeah these are people who are coming here to do Know really high tech jobs and things with incredible skills and they. They just want to add their value to america. That's what they wanna do. They wanna they wanna help. Their helpers. the south texas family residential center in dili is currently housing about fifteen hundred migrants at a cost of approximately two thousand per person per day the facility the largest immigration detention center in the. Us can hold a maximum of twenty. Four hundred detainees and was originally intended to house mainly women and children seeking asylum. Russian and middle eastern migrants are becoming more and more frequent joining the caravans from mexico to cross the united states along with mexicans and central and south americans but due to the surge of migrants at the border officials. Say it's now become an intake in release center for illegal immigrant. Families including men were being welcomed into the country after seventy two hours to await their court dates and by the way some of them not even being assigned court dates. They're just being released. Don't worry about it. Everything's fine in fact everything's awesome when you're part of a team. Guatemala is it now issuing an emergency declaration over the caravans coming from honduras. That seems kind of hateful. Wait you. You're in an emergency situation because people are coming flooding into your country from a neighbor. Your southern border is being breached. And you're not happy about that. The emergency degree decree would restrict. Air gatherings demonstrations without permission without permits. And we'll be in effect for two weeks in the five guatemalan provinces along the border with honduras the government justified the restrictions in a statement saying groups of people could put at risk the life liberty security health access to justice peace and development of guatemalans. Again you could be concerned about your own countrymen and and not just what the the needs of these refugees are in january. Guatemala reportedly took a similar step and put forth a decree in order to impede at different caravan stressing that the caravan posed a risk to public health in guatemala during a pandemic. if we can't we can't or won't make that declaration here. We're in the middle of a pandemic to anybody's noticed that And we don't know who's crossing that border with what stinking disease could be. Covid could be leprosy who knows they could have any sort of disease and come into texas and spread that all over the state put we day straight rampant down. are we in texas eighteen. I'm gonna start disregarding the numbers in the go up because clearly this is going to be manufactured what they're releasing into texas these focusing our testing positive if being tested at all. Yeah yeah being set up and you know there does seem to be some fear on the part of the powers that be the cdc was Quite emotional about it yesterday. Here's what she had to say about. What's happening the truth. And i hope and trust will listen. I'm going to pass here. I'm going to lose the script. And i'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling i have of incoming view so much to look forward to so much promise and potential of where we are and so much reason for hope the right now scares she scared to cry there. Yeah she scared right now. There's an impending doom that she feels she went off script. It's that was heartfelt. And she's worried he's worried about worried about what they were she's gonna lose her power and the government is going to lose their opportunity to control us even more. Is that what they're crying. Started to weep about it. So yeah you know. They're worried about it. So there's a feeling of impending doom whom he wants to share with us and this is not the time as as biden told us yesterday This is not the time to relax or to let your guard down or to Do anything normal is not the time. In fact you get to put the mask back on and we're going to have to lock down again. I i am so sick of hearing. It's just for a little while longer. Just hold out a little while. They've been telling us that. For a year they get their machine built man literally a year of that. Okay just a little bit more. All right just i. We're going to flatten the curve for fifteen days. Screen is just fifteen days. Americans can do that and we're all like we can do that. They can do that until it wasn't about flattening the curve. We found that out. It was about wait till the vaccine happens. Then then things are gonna change so the vaccine happens. Nothing changes so. It's now the vaccine and the masks and the social distancing and nothing ever helps the situation nothing and in many areas of the country. Kids are effectively still on lockdown from going to school. I mean it's just crazy and here was what a biden had to say. Yesterday i'm pleased to announce at least ninety percent of all adults in this country. we'll be eligible vaccinated by april the nineteenth just weeks from now as we have vaccines for the vast vast majority of adults of dull. You won't have to wait till may one. Oh you'll be eligible for your shot. April nineteenth yeah. That's great finally. Finally ten percent will be eligible. No later than the final ten percents elza no later than may one nine just said do the steps taking today ninety percent of america you did you say that twice in five miles of the location where they can get a shot as of april. The nineteenth already said so. We're moving toward ninety ninety. Nine that is by nineteen three weeks. Ninety percent of adobe over eighteen and over we've already eligible get vaccinate ninety percent of all americans living within five miles long. Shot course just keeps your time to get their appointment. Yes a big country. It is and as fast as we're going and we still have a long way to go to finish this way long long ago. Aren't even there where halfway. yeah so. Don't start but being ninety ninety just three weeks from today at nine hundred ninety ninety nine hundred is it is it. Ninety percent in ninety days is that what's happening here ninety percent of ninety days. I bet that's although he hasn't said it. Ninety days of his administration were ninety percent of adults availability. or something. i close with this. What is ninety ninety percent of the us eligible for covid nineteen vaccine while ninety percent of americans are within five miles of of shot is the most cumbersome ninety nine hundred bullcrap what okay so ninety percent are eligible and ninety percent of americans live within five miles. Yeah that's a long way to the well there. Joe that's bizarre significant testament to what we can do a work together as americans. Yeah as always said. You still need everyone to do their part. Yeah we still earn a war with this deadly virus. Flor- we're bolstering defenses. a whole. This war is far from one together. We have so much to be proud of the past three weeks pass more than three weeks past ten weeks. Well simpson's sorrowful about nearly one thousand americans. A day are still dying from cova. Nineteen as we approach five hundred and fifty thousand deaths. The single year told us countries vaccine has to do our part. We have an obligation. I would you say until We find a vaccine. There's no substitute for love. Would you say that. i would say that. That seems to kind of what he's alluding to. But he didn't say it as eloquently as bon jovi in that jennifer. What's your face did patriotic allegation. Okay wash your hands. Wash my hands. Socially distant worse wear a mask is recognized the cd shearer continue that get vaccinated and get vaccinated your friends and family vaccinated when you can help by off dude. It's time it's not time to sell don't celebrate. No is tiny. It is time to what we do. Best as a country and that's continued to listen to him. I art writing our duty. Our job our jobs take care of one another and fight this to the finish. Wow we can't will do this good. Don't let dollah tube that now. Ooh we're so close and and yet so far away good. Utusan that right there. That was an absolutely passes. Naptime when he did that he was slurring though. Yeah and struggling tired key words between him and the cdc director lady we've got impending doom. We've got fear we've got war. We've got defenses. I mean sound sincere to me all or so close keith. Ooh ninety nine close and yet so far away. We're not even halfway there. We're not even half way but yet we're so close just a little while longer. Although we're not anywhere near done but see. Joe it feels. I wear ear. No you're playing on our fears. Isn't that the truth. Right right played on our fares. Yeah that's i mean. That's exactly what's happening right now. They're trying to extend this by. Scaring you ninety ninety. Whatever trade off this country right. So that's exactly what they're doing. They're playing on our fears and they're they're trying to make of us. Who aren't really necessarily afraid. They're trying to make us afraid and They're doing what they can to keep their control still. Do you understand the ninety ninety five niner ninety percent available k. and ninety percent live within five miles. Okay stupid what a weird thing. What a weird thing that is so that means that like we're now eligible right. Yeah i'm yeah. Let's get out there and get that vaccine or print copy of something that looks very similar and do what you will uh-huh yeah because now we're getting cova passport coming Aren't you excited about that white house in that Love the passport. Good stuff dangerous times. Let me tell you about omega. Xl if you've got pain not brought on by biden and the democrats but rather inflammation. 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You can call them at eight hundred eight four four forty eight eighty s then biden. Had this to say to Governors of states that have relieved the themselves and their population of the stupid mandate reiterating my call for every governor mayor and local leader to maintain reinstate. The mass mandate please. This is not politics. State the mandate if you let it down and business require as well. Now why would you go back to the stink in mandate with our numbers have gone down every day since the mandate was announced. Why would you go back to it. I'm telling you just wait until federal aid is tied to mandates in each state texas. You federal money. Then you better institute. These policies again You better get back to your mask. Mandate it's coming now. I'm sure it's driving them out of their minds that's why they don't even mention it. The texas is doing great without the mandate numbers are down hospitalizations infections. Deaths all down. We've been down for going on three weeks now. So why would you reinstitute the mandate. It's just so ridiculous the fair to take this virus cashing in the first place. Or he's tired. Risks more cases more desks desks. And you don't want to risk adesco because where would you sit at work. If you didn't have a desk. I mean then. I had to put on pants too. Yeah and obviously. The desk helps block that from the camera. Exactly as i do. My partrick celebrates the vaccine distribution vaccinations. I need the american people do their part as well. Yeah mask up up. It's oh shut up. State only way we ever get back to normal to cheer together and stadiums full of fans shut up to gather together on holidays against safely. Go to graduations. Weddings will never do it again. They have their words their liberals man come on. They don't want us to return to life the way it was. They don't want that. They want to reset. They want to build back better and they're better is a completely different world. Yep so we've added to impending doom fear war defense. We've added safe and patriotic to the buzzwords all right. I'm march eleventh. Direct every state territory and try to open up for vaccinations. Every all adult her tori internal later than may want that order because moving beyond priority movie naval code biz critical to have this closer. Don's the middle of the day. Yeah and he's outta gas man he just can't just can't anymore. Yeah i can't. I think they woke him up early from his nap time. Because you know the country is starting to realize. Hey we can be free again. The numbers are going down like sir. I'm sorry. I know that you put a lid on it at three. Pm but we need you to come back out here. And he's probably in rim sleep right and they disrupted it. Come out there and do this. Yeah probably a plus. You know the The early bird special at golden corral. 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I don't know they're trying to i you to death in line at the at the voting booth they can keep the water from you. Maybe you can die in line before you vote. And i think that's what i think. That's what these georgia republicans want. They want you to literally die of thirst while waiting in line so ridiculous. That's a big deal to them. You can't even get a bottle not not even a bottle of water. Yeah you can anyway. Here's what chris wallace had to say. Take a look at some of the provisions in georgia and these specific ones. That a lot of people are having heartburn about senator it would limit the number and location of dropbox says no allows counties cutoff early voting at five pm but only working people get all my go out and this is the one that i think is creating the biggest fos it prohibits. It makes it a crime to give food or drink to voters waiting in line. My senator gosh. Why on her closet. I why on earth do you need you. Being given food and beverages in has that ever happened to you in a line at at a voting poll polling place. No that's never once happened to me where i've been given food or water in line right and and the thing. Is you talk about this. There's an exception that like people that work the polls can give food and water. This bans this law bans People that work for campaigns or special interest groups or something like that. That's that's been america for two hundred and fifty years you can't you see. That's why alex taylor. Alcohol sales were legal on election day. Because they didn't want you buying votes with alcohol and gifts and bribes. That's all this is or being drunk when you got to. The voting place might make some more decisions for the country. That way. Maybe all right. Let's see the rest of this. This this is why sarthe to americans are willing to wait in hours to. Would you make it a crime for people common. Give him a bottle of water. Oh okay so you just finished the finished. And like lindsey graham actually lindsay. no well. That doesn't sound good but then he got into some other. You know so. That's literally sand. Good i it sounds fine to me. I don't care if you get food and drink in line while you're waiting to vote. What are what are you standing there for fifteen hours or something and you're gonna you're gonna collapse if you don't eat. I mean i'm looking at the law right here. Other than election officials discharging their duties. Those are the people that can pass out food. And make this into some luncheon. It's still allowed. Oh so the campaign right. All this is can hand out water. Yes in pizza. And whatever the heck. They've been doing georgia at states. Loss right enough again. I don't. I don't know why you need food water in line. When you're waiting to vote. I i've never seen it. I've never heard of it but okay. It is legal. Yes if you're not part of the can't one of the campaigns other than a of discharging their duties that's just crazy that's it's so And what was the first condition. Let me see the see. The bullet points he puts up at the beginning. Can you okay. Yeah lay that beginning part because it is the most egregious of course chris. Wallace was the food. But it limits drop boxes right which only increases fraud. The more you have and it allows early voting cutoff at five pm now. That's the only one that i see as being a problem out of those three because if that's when people get off work right they're basically saying that you have to vote on election day then if you have to go after work. I don't know. I lived in georgia for a long time but it was always seven. Am to seven pm. It is most places so the other one I'm sorry what was that graphic again. What was that last. Bullet point cool. Oh my gosh. oh and then what's missing from there. The most egregious of off from this law is you have to have an. Id don't say that. i'm sorry. I don't say that you might want to dump that. Yeah you have to have an. Id no not if you're a minority. Well right they can't get them. They can't get him they don't know where the is what. Yeah they don't know where the dmv is in cancer and they can't find the the no they came google that kick it on computers unless they have a white person there to tell them how so so. That's literally what the president of the united states said. Literally literally i mean. Obviously we're not the white stuff. But but it did say galyon said hispanics and blacks and they live out way out of town and talking about the urban center and they live in the town the rural. Wait a minute. If there's no computers in the city's nor out in the rural areas. I mean the only places. Computers exist in that sweet spot called the suburbs. Yes yes the white suburb offended. Would you be if you were a minority. Listen to the crap that the democrats in it is the soft racism of low expectations air. It is just six. You don't expect that minorities can do anything so offensive. It's racist triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety. Three also at pat unleashed on twitter. Return i will say. As far as Women's basketball concerned the yukon. Huskies are pretty interesting. They just made it to their They won a their elite game. And so they've made it to their thirteenth straight final four. That's incredible that's incredible. Thirteen final fours in a row. Plus just a few years ago they they want one hundred and eleven games in a row which is an all time record. One hundred eleven games in a row. That's a program quite a program. That's good stuff right there. Yep also let's see who win last night baylor one. I think to make it to the men's final four and so did houston so those are the first two teams who were the game tonight. I mean falling since my bracket got busted my georgia tech creighton. Oops woopsie loop usc and gonzaga tonight. That's yeah that could be a good game you a pretty good then Ucla in michigan the nightcap king okay so could end up right To california teams playing each other and two texas teams playing each other the good and then the winners and the championship game. Yeah could all right. Got some tweets here elisa. Kelly sorry didn't get this out yesterday. Long workday we can't all call a lid time like biden. Anyone remember masks for the hong kong flu of nineteen sixty eight me. Neither times handle it without the area. Yeah of course. I was eight years old in nineteen sixty eight so i just a baby was in. You're right rocco says they will blame the ship. Getting stuck was due to climate change. The wind's blowing higher now. Yeah well the wind is also causing like president to fall. Upstairs are trying to climb up to air force one number that high wind boy whereas one. Golly it's dumb. I know honey no stay there. No just literally just stay there you ever see that housing How are they going to. Maybe they won't keep that shot away from us going forward when he gets on a plane. Know like goes the president present me. You can't You have to go up the stairs man. You know that. They're gonna be cringing the first time he does that. Oh yeah. Because that's i mean that's forever that we have that i mean. Do you remember how mercilessly they made fun of gerald ford saturday for tripping once and that was so much worse than the gerald ford has really bad wipe out. It was raining and he was coming down. Yeah and i you know. I mean he was holding the umbrella or something for the first lady anyway and he slipped. Yeah yeah don't and guy just going up. And he's old. Carl smith tweets head of the. Cdc says now is one of those times she has to share the truth. What she's been doing the rest of the time. I was one of those. Take time and trust all. Listen okay. i'm gonna pause here. I'm gonna lose the script. And i'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling i have of impending view. We have so much to look forward to so much promise and potential where we are so much reason for hope cry but right now i'm scare. She's scared she goes on to say. I wish we played a little bit longer but she goes on to say about. How just have to keep going a little bit longer just a little while longer. Just a little bit more. I'm so sick and tired of hearing that every single time they they tell us the same thing and we've been hearing it for over a year. Don't they understand. Okay i i know we know what to do. Shut up just let us live our lives. We'll do what we know. We need to do what to keep ourselves safe. Look you certainly don't care about my health more than i do. So i'm going to do what i think i need to do to protect myself. And those. I love and other people to be considerate of other americans. So you're wanting to take personal ownership of your own kind of kind of what i'm saying. Now that is pretty radical. Isn't it think going out on a limb and just being like ridiculously independent like i. I don't mean to be told by the rancher that i'm i'm cattle and they need to heard me into a little area so you missed the memo on the government's supposed to do everything for you. Yeah i did. I miss that one. I'll get you a copy of that. Seems like there was a fairly long memo that the government was pretty limited in the things that they could do but that was in cursive. Who knows what. We don't even know what it said anymore. Nobody reads crew from jim. Pelican love how. The cdc director tried to manufacture a viral video clip by pretending to go off script. In order to gaslight everyone into the fear they've been living in over the last year. They've lost the narrative. Yes they have. And that's what yesterday was about from the cdc to the president of the united states. We've got to scare people. That's why he's he's into whisper voice again because that's his deeply heartfelt. Felt sincerity coming through. What i whisper like this and i i i mean. Sometimes you can't even tell how old i am because i'm talking so in such on low as a just a little bit longer. I need help. We owe the president. Sickos you have laryngitis. No i'm just so sincere. Right now is what happens to my voice super sincere. Yeah yeah yeah ok you also need a lozenge or something. I word that's how desperate they are though. Definitely there into whisper voice. It really showed yesterday. it did. I'm telling you you broke out the cdc director and biden and sake all on this thing. I i'm telling you. I haven't heard anything like this but you know especially this administration is going to tie some sort of federal funding to mandates. It's i. I know this is how they're going to do this. That's how they're going to get states back in line. Well exhorting told he's already asked the states to to go back to the mandates because it's not just texas mississippi did it. They re relieved. The the restrictions i think florida's released the restrictions. I there's quite a few states now who've done that and more states that are planning to do it and so yeah he's trying to get back. Control is going to be a trial. Balloon floated on a sunday morning show in the next two weeks. Yep and some talking some administration official is to say look you know what like chriswell chris. We might have to look tying federal funding to the states. That aren't doing their part. Well they just won't get in line and it's for it's for safety. It's for the public good to see. We're we're connected here. Every state is connected. People are all moving about traveling. We're a society on the go if we can't all do this together then we're just going to have to give incentives to state follow procedures in an emergency situation. 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That's right so i see now. That's why so many people so many black people die in line at a voting place Because they didn't get food and drink. Well that's for so long. I don't like this now. Yeah now. I'm with major league baseball players themselves right. Yeah by the way. Did you notice that it allows for early. Voting cutoff at five. Pm bright it doesn't mean that it has to write the local authorize but anyway obviously geared toward silencing black votes and. I don't know how long georgia does early voting. But some of these states are doing early voting for a month and a half or two months. If you can't get there sometime during the course of that or on election day. I'm sorry then you're not try. It was early. September that some of those things. I remember looking over here at this chart. I think it was like wisconsin or something like yeah tenth. Yes you got time to have time and take a bottle of water with you. Take a bottle of water. Maybe a built ball. Bill barr take built bar and a bottle of water. You're all set. Oh we're all set real quick. Bill barr built. Burn your pocket and when you go to your kids softball game. Yeah and then you know a little bit and into the afternoon. you're reaching. They're just soft and gooey. Oh it was divine sorry sidetracked always hungry right so major league. Baseball players association is open to discussing moving the two thousand twenty one all star game from atlanta. Which is in. Georgia is no. Is that right. Yeah following the state's decision to enact the comprehensive anti vote fraud. Bill black lives matter say. The bill is aimed at preventing minorities from exercising their right to vote in georgia. Just as minority voters have become a force within the state. How is any of that stuff directed at minority voters. How it is so ridiculous. Major sporting events could be moved out of the state of georgia. If calls from civil rights groups are to be listened to calls to move the masters golf tournament and for the mlb all star game to be moved come after the state passed a controversial voting law. So whatever you wanna lose your events go ahead and go through with this racists in georgia. I can just see the announcer now. Where moving the iconic masters golf tournament out of augusta national. We're going to play it over at the muny course on the north side of lincoln nebraska this year which i actually like but anyway i. The point is stop. Stop it i mean they. They try the far left. I don't know how far it is anymore. Just ruins everything. That's all they try to do. Just let's ruin everything Including the vote as they're doing with this right yep Let's go to mark in georgia. Hey mark you're on the blaze. Hey hey i was calling you. Guys are talking about the giving water and food and whatnot in the voting lines. Yeah here in savannah. They had giant excursion style tour buses and catered barbecue events in the parking lot of our voting areas. Oh wow who was running them. Who ran those buses. Do you know. I want to tell you the state's abrahams folks. Well yeah. that's what they're trying to prevent is for campaign people. You know the partisans to do something like that if like a giant block party Uh-huh uh-huh and then they're bussing in people that they've they've harvested probably as well so yeah. They were the big excursion style. Two of us is with the rats all around him in the festive looks and all that good stuff. Yeah that's that's the deal appreciate it mark. Thanks that's the problem. Is the the vote harvesting and going in picking up people in large numbers and then directing them on how to vote. And all of those things i. This is what the democrats do though. This is how they win elections. Because of the sketchy practices like that and then and then when republicans try to make it so that you can't influence elections in in that way. Then they're the racists. Suppressing the vote. Just it's amazing tense. Amazing by the taiwan is reporting the largest ever incursion by the chinese air force over their airspace so Things are just getting better everywhere. You look right now They were saying In a story yesterday that chinese takeover of taiwan is probably more imminent than most of us even would believe the uso saying that. Yeah yeah our. Some of our defense officials are saying. Yeah these they are planning to take taiwan back. Twenty chinese military aircraft entered enter. Taiwan's air defense identification zone friday in the largest incursion yet reported by the island's defense ministry. The problem with that is in addition to the fact that you know you want taiwan to be free. At least i do. We have a treaty with them so if that were to occur then we are treaty-bound to help oh and so could lead to a hot war with china. It hasn't been many demonstrations Since they let the virus out of that wuhan lab. I mean since it escape from the food market the market. That's what i meant to say. You mean since the us military plant hall right right what you mean right right. Yeah yeah yeah but the the who investigated right right. We have an update on that. I mean roger daltry said He won't get fooled again So the who's all over it. Great got twigs here. us bunker. Thirteen hundred are tweets. The stairs for air force one will be converted into an escalator. Or maybe one of those chairs elevator chairs. Go sit in it and it just goes up the rail. Totally the baleful bs mary-anne tweets. I guess buying votes with food works or just a scare tactic to get people to keep using mail mail in voting Dm impending doom brought to you by the cdc from. I am blessed him. 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I mean that's creative life. Yes that's what. It became very clear that the decision we made a january tend to go all out develop. A vaccine may have been the best decision that i have made with regard to the intervention as the director of the institute over a so. It's the best decision i've ever made. Donald trump had nothing to do with that. I guess removing all other restrictions and the red tape and sending massive amounts of cash to these companies to go ahead and start their research and development on this stuff. Get it done and get it done quickly. That was all foul now. Oh okay wow guys. Ego man so mazing. Isn't it amazing. By the way we're talking about the who and their Their investigation of of china the china virus. Which isn't of course from china. It's i don't know it. Actually i think it actually came from canada. I think the canadians are probably to blame Because they're mostly white and And they're trying to cleanse the earth of all people that don't look like them boy. Didn't that's right didn't that's where's the faculty on that right. Where are you. Where are you saint doctor. Dr saint dc. China told the who that kobe didn't escape from the virus lab in wuhan. Yeah so case. Closed here here here. This the Who is this guy. Is this this. Must somebody from the who who. Yeah i'm on the wto team for a reason. And if you're gonna to work in china on corona viruses and try and understand their origins you should involve the people who know the most about that and for better off. Worse i do. He says the team did look into the league theory. Visit with lab scientists and deemed. It extremely unlikely met with them. We said dear old it the lab and they said annually. Did you audited after the outbreak. Yes was anything found. No rest your staff. Yes no just taking their word for it right. Well what else can we do. You can do. And we went right up to that limit. We ask some questions questions and the answers they gave. We found to be believable. Correct and convincing. But weren't the chinese cover up. They destroy yes. Punish trying to give evidence. The origin will get us to find out if china had covered up the orange line. Here i'm just saying doesn't that make you wonder. We didn't see any evidence no didn't answer no reporting cover up that we did in china. I mean it might as well be the who the rock band right more facts. Yes the who would. Pro roger daltry and peter. Townsend would probably find more evidence of wrongdoing in china than these buffoon. Yeah just put a couple of takeaways from that leslie. Stahl obviously hates asians obvious. Okay obviously and the other is why wasn't the. Who investigating and canada. Because you just told us right this came. It's the canadian plague. Why are they in china and pat gray. Just said it right and so you got to believe it right because they don't have any evidence that i'm lying. I said that's ridiculous man. I heard about it on the news. No ridiculous man. that's it that's it. Oh what a worst organization. Chinese just said. Yeah yeah we did. We ought to do. We didn't finding. Oh okay but you trust your staff yes okay so you typically audit the lab correct. That's correct did you audit it after the yes we did. Do you trust your staff. We do very much. Yeah very much. All right we're good. Let's go here at four o'clock. I mean off it. I can't take this just because the chinese set it. Yeah they get all up. I mean we took it right up to that line. What else do you want from us. That is really amazing. What an amazing mission i mean. They did nothing. They went over there and ask him a few questions They were lied to and they said okay. 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Infinity lockdown mode. Wouldn't that be nice. Wouldn't that be nice. Sure would now. What's it gonna take to not hear from a common la harris again. Because i don't even know what she's talking about in this particular clip and But she just saying it all so well. I think that's what we're getting from. This more people are seeing that. Yeah affordable childcare is a big deal more parents are seeing the value of educator's kit not paying them nearly to what is she laughing. She's got was funny. She's got to be high. It's gotta be she. She's talking about smoking and it was really weird. That was her. Teachers are gonna are seeing the value of education at the. Don't know man. I don't know. I don't know that we've got a president who is too decrepit for the office. I know we've got a vice president. That's too unstable for the office as illustrated there Yeah i'm gonna stop. I'm not gonna stop right there. Fortunately the house right so so. Pick your poison america. Oh no wow. That is really weird stuff at somebody said that was it. That said that it's like the female joker. I mean that's what she is. Yep that's a good description of it naturally so people are confused over the muppets new race. Muppets there's new race. Muppet muppets. So like drag center something. No the introduced some black models. Of course they did so. I guess the black muppets are to counteract the red blue and green. Muppets supposed to be actually white. Muppets right there. Is there a white muppet. I don't think so. Let's brag think so orange and yellow. Right okay grover is blue cookie monster blue yes What was that word is yellow. Elmo's read who's white. I don't think there's is miss. Piggy white she's a pig pig colored kermit's of green frog. Yeah there might be one white muppet and it might be miss piggy again. She's a pig. But right the swedish chef over up at show never mind. That's not sesame street so weird so any. Why do you even need to introduce a black muppet. There's no white muppets. It's just. That is just bizarre announced earlier this week that the franchises latest characters five year old wes and his father elijah will offer lessons on race here. We good good good. That's what my kids need. Video was released on tuesday as part of sesame street's digital content series the abc's of racial literacy which hopes to provide families with the tools. They need to build racial literacy. The series was launched by sesame workshop the nonprofit organization behind sesame street as part of its commitment to racial justice just going sideways. Like cr- so fat. How do you raise a young kid. These days. I don't know. I really don't know i am the father of three teenagers. I am grateful that they are already at the point where they have a solid head on their shoulders. You're raising them with this kind of crap. I mean every day you're just getting bombarded with you don't have enough defense shields to stop all this crap. Yeah and you're having to counteract all the privilege nonsense the fragility stuff the the fact that they're racist from birth or at least by the time they're three months older already racist if they're white if they're white male black babies getting racist at three months old white babies do and so. They're learning all that stuff about themselves. They're being taught to self loathe. Why would you do that. It's so dangerous so awful so evil as just plain evil we tell you about real estate agents. I trust dot com if you are looking to sell your home by a home. Maybe have to do both. Because you're going to relocate. You really need a realtor that you can trust somebody who's really good. You don't wanna go with your wife's second cousin once removed Who dabbles in real estate part time. And they're gonna cut a deal and they have no idea what they're doing. You don't want that kind of realtor you want a real tour who has a great track record. A great marketing plan somebody. Who's a fan of the show and you're gonna have things in common with somebody who can advise you on what to do with your house when you before you sell it and put it on the market so that it sells quickly and for the most amount of money. There's always that line to walk too because what kind of what. Kind of updating you need to do in order to sell it fast and will you get your money out of it if you do. Make those If you if you do incur that expense of updating things in your home these are the things you talk about with these realtors real estate agents. I trust the name really says it. All real estate agents i trust dot com. You're listening to pat. Gray unleashed for god Well we didn't really get but it happened. It happened over the weekend. Earth our happened so as earth our on earth day and we missed all of it because it was saturday i think yeah oh shoot. Yeah now a couple of years ago on earth our. We found out something really fascinating. The world is using the equivalent of one and a half planets to support life on earth. What us i was born out of a who could change. We've used what a half planet surface. I'm sorry one and a half planets one and a half. it's what other planets has we have. We used half of. We've used all of this one. Apparently and then half of another it makes sense. now now i know why pluto has been downgraded blame us. We've used it. We've used half half of it now. It's toyed earthy you haven't missed it yet by the way. It's not to a second okay. We still have time to get your so earth. Our is different from earth. Day almost works your earth day tree up. Yeah so april twenty second. Yeah so it's coming up. You got a few weeks to get ready. Really excited decorated very very excited. Don't shower for three weeks. And you'll be celebrating. Earth day some tweets. Here get off my lawn tweets. China perpetuates a military takeover of taiwan will. The nba threatened to pull out of china. Yeah yeah i think we know the answer sway think tweets the who yet china told us. Everyone i'm a stop you right. There champ stop stopping. Right there. Tricia sanders tweets kamala. Harris is a gig ler never trust a gig ler k. I could go along with especially in in this particular incident. I just giggled. Was that a gig tackle. I don't know what she does. Both more parents are seeing the value of educators. Thin late robert off the extended version of common. Because she yeah that was. That was the dance version. Yes sake sucks or pataki sucks as glenn would say Tweets what would happen if we out democrat. The democrats like we serve barbecue and brokers ice cream. Oh now you're thinking. I'll circle back. There's more i can share with you. Boy republicans would win in a landslide. Absolutely they gave out brokers at the polling place. Yes yes they would Or perhaps brokers and maybe some kelsey. Cookies not familiar advice. Bolt right there dot com. You can come out and see what you think of. I've never heard of this cookie k. E. ks i. It is dot com. Check that out now. Open nationwide not familiar anybody in the country in order wow Speaking of jen psaki you know who she was just asked about. Biden's non essential travel hypocrisy. No come on now. There's no hypocrisy enter saying. Don't travel if you don't have to. Yeah here's jen psaki one Also the follow up to the white house. They made very clear that they're urging americans to continue to take action to prevent a four thirds including non essential. Travel is the warning against non essential travel. Something that the white house is taking into consideration with regard to upcoming travel by the president and vice president for business and for personal reasons. Don't to us. I would say that the president travels as the vice president on a private plane That is the purview of every president vice president throughout american history That is of course. Different than traveling on a commercial flight is better than going to mass events. As you know we don't the president is not hosting rallies nor is the the vice president. We take a the role of Sending being models Quite seriously i think most americans would recognize the difference. What difference what did he's better than us. And so he can travel and we can't you got it and he could travel privately and we can't or you're finding the differences. There's many apparently yeah. Yeah and he's not subject to the climate change. Bs but we are because he's taking private planes wherever he goes okay and he's also not wearing masks in federal buildings. I on right. I mean air force. One has to be the ultimate private jet in on this planet and Year burn a lot of co two when you take off in that thing and you are wasting a lot of fuel and you're putting a lot of pollutants into the air and you're killing the planet and you're spreading. You know you might be taken. Well we know that. Dc is infected. Wherever you're flying you're taking that nastiness with you you take it all the germs all the cova germs with you. Yeah but see. He's important in. we're we're not. I appreciate you think you could see the difference now. I couldn't win when she was saying that i was with us. He's the president and your not. Yeah okay so he's super important. You're not. I don't know who that guy was but thanks for asking that question. Yeah no kidding. Was there a follow up as somebody else had a follow up to that. I just love how the press is pushing back. I it just physician that the cdc troubled talking prime president he was asking me specifically about the president's travel vice presidents travel Specifics of the guidelines. You can certainly ask the cdc for further clarification. But what i'm president. Any president does travels on our first one whether he is travelling to visit a community in this country or whether he is traveling to go to his home state of delaware. I think most people recognize that as being a difference. Yeah i think again. Most people recognize that. He's the president. He's important. You're not i see and it to answer your question on whether or not the cdc has guidelines on using private jets a private planes. Yes it's appropriate for the president. But not for you. Okay so. I think most people would recognize that difference. You're scum and he's super elite. I tell you. I tell you the daily press briefing. I wanna do a drinking game Play the game. Where jen psaki directs the reporter to another department when she says. Go to the cdc for further clarification as she's trapped and be drink up and you'll be wasted in thirty minutes. Triple eight nine hundred. Thirty three ninety. Three more packer unleash coming up. Gray unleashed triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also pat unleashed on twitter. This is exciting new covid vaccines could necessary within a year. So we get to go through this all over again. I don't think so could be a year or less before the first generation covid nineteen vaccines are ineffective and modified formulations are needed. And then you gotta go through the whole dinking thing again. Good good okay. Scientists have long stress at a global vaccination. Effort is needed to satisfactorily neutralize the threat of covid nineteen. This is due to the threat of variations of the of the virus. Which by the way. It is permissible to call the uk variant. The uk very. That's apparently not racist. Okay you could also say the south african variant because there is a south african variant. And that also. I guess is not racist. Okay but how dare you call this. The china virus. Don't you dare do that. Don't don't you dare well. Okay noted i don't ever well. Yeah you can see german measles too because that's fine okay. That's not racist but assist like if oh by the way also ebola which is a section a portion of africa. Yeah i that's not racist either calling it ebola you pull the virus. I'm confused. yeah. I know like i don't know what's allowed and what's not night just told you. So what what's your confusion. I need to understand. Just told you. So but i need to understand why why. It's okay to call one thing ma. Because china is peopled with asians in. So oh okay and so. I'm getting it now right. So but european countries. Yeah yes you can there people with. I mean britain. There's probably some other you know braces. They're they're mostly white. Sure mostly now. South africa's a different deal. I'm not sure. What the or ebola i. I don't know what the deal is with those two places but apparently those are fine as well how that works. It's going to be testing. No oh no. I'll be testing on this area. Good yeah What a world. I mean every day. It's just more ridiculous. Were stupid more evil every day. Oh yes speaking of which what little nazar gnaws ause. Nasr little nazaz ex. He's he of the satan shoes right for some reason. He thought it was cool to take some nike air jordans and fill them with red ink and a drop of human blood. Gosh nen do this video where he gives a lap dance to satan in hell and okay. Yeah all right. i'm following you. And then he's going to print up manufacturer guests six hundred sixty six of the we did. Yeah they sold out in under a minute. Aw isn't that wonderful sounds great yeah satanic shoes okay. How much only thousand eighteen dollars a pair. Well there's there's a market for shoes with a pentagram unbelievable and he found unbelievable so i don't know what this guy's deal is if he's an actual satan worshippers. He's just looking for attention. It's just a cry for help. Who knows what this psycho is. Little gnaws nasr little nasr gnaws. Oh my gosh it'll nauseating x six hundred and sixty shoes times. One thousand eighteen dollars is six hundred. Seventy seven about six hundred seventy eight thousand dollars. He made some money on it and nike suing him by the way yet there for trademark infringement. Okay good we were wondering about this. And then this is appropriate though Apparently low nasr gnaws is a university of utah football fan. Oh yes it comes full circle. Yeah he likes the godless animals. Isn't that appropriate little. Satan worshiper loves godless animal. Thank you to the pat. Yeah yes because this pat had sent us this out d. Do we have the photo we showed it. So he's holding you. Okay yeah next on jersey with the number seven on it. Low gnaws nasr nex number seven should be number six but whatever right yes that would be a pro but yeah i guess we had a connection to the utah utes football team through a bodyguard or something and or bodyguard is related to a player on the team or some kind of thing that yeah well anyway. That's a whole bizarre story. I don't understand the satanic shoes things. I don't get it. What are you doing. And the copyright infringement with nike that that is not worth six hundred thousand dollars. You just it's going to be your retainer fee for the attorney. Yeah and you're going to need now right for whatever. This stunt was Andrew in oregon. Hi you're on the blaze. Good morning gentlemen. Are you guys sitting down. Are you ready to have your mind blown. Yes small talk with me. No okay so now this past weekend the week before my daughter had to attend a Soccer tournaments and the great slums of portland oregon and it was on a private Field and the afternoon tournaments. They're telling eleven year old girls having to wear masks playing soccer while they played they had to wear their mask. Yeah you know. Utopia mass yep And then there's a college soccer game happening on the field and they're you know eighteen nineteen year old. Kid i mean i i would assume playing college soccer and not one of them had to wear a mask but the ten and eleven year old girls had to wear a math came out after the tournament. And said bob that. Why didn't they have to wear masks on. I had to we said. Welcome to oregon. Tommy madness yet it is sanity that any and then my son has to do a first grader. Wear masks and play baseball. First-grader crazy where where the severe illness and death is almost not an issue at all. You don't even have to worry about it. Severe illness is almost not a thing with that age group. I mean there's just no reason for it. there's no reason for it. It's it's insane. It really is appreciate it. Thanks andrew and they're going to have so many more problems with the mask wearing during an athletic event and you're making breathing more difficult. I mean that's just. I don't even understand why you're doing these kinds of things except for control unless you just want control because you're not helping anything and you could be hurting something Quite severely actually have you seen we showed showed the filthy basques and some of the parents who listen Showed their their kids masks after a day or two and how filthy they are when you know you make a five year old. Wear a mask all day. What do you think that's gonna come back like it's been sneezed in. It's been dragged through the mud and dirt and so here's an example so we'll states and municipalities that require an ask wearing and companies Will they be liable for lawsuit later when you shaving problems. While i was forced to they sure as a as a to be a citizen of good standing in whichever state yeah i i had to wear this mask when i was six years old. Playing soccer yeah okay. So now you're going to be held accountable. Ten twenty years from now states are going to be sued And don't forget if there's any vaccine repercussions for your body and your employer required it. You'll have to sue them since the companies that are creating these vaccines are exempt. They're they're what you call. Immune kiddos nice logan in oklahoma. You're on the blaze. Hi hey pat. Good you're talking about air force one and the footprint. It has carbon wise. You don't even know half the picture. I've worked with the movements of the president and they're considered no fail missions so the tasking comes down and they'll call for you know three c. Seventeen to move the beast and all the secret service and all their equipment and then to get the c. Seventeen th to move to in the air. So they'll call for six. Casey one thirty fives or or casey ten extenders and they'll all be airborne at the same time pushing on the air force one which is a four ship. F16's which definitely don't sip any fuel either is that every time every time air force one is born every single every single time. You're talking about ten jumbo jets at minimum on top of all the fighter escorts sticks to move these things around it. It's not a small feet. And i don't begrudge the president doing it. I don't either examine about unless they're all about climate change. Then i kinda do. That's the problem is they're hypocrites right. Need not be hiccup hypocrites right away. Earth-based coming up. I'm sure and i've done my fair share to see now. But i'm going to build a stack of styrofoam cups and burnham for earth day. Wow that is beautiful. I like this guy has beautiful. Thanks a lot. Logan appreciate it. That's awesome. yeah we're clubbing. Baby seals are again this year. We're going to newfoundland really. Yeah yeah me. And the family on a saying it ended newfoundland and we'll be clubbing baby seals that we can't. How shameful is it that my ronald reagan calendar has earth day on it. But anyhow thursday. It's thursday how are you going to get there so quickly because we catalog your drive. It was a weekend. We're flying this time. We're flying in honor of earth day. Yes yeah. I'm taking a private jet. Co two n baby seals celebrate. Yes so that'll be good. That'll be good. Have fun We've been talking about rough greens for quite a while now over a year i think. And it's a powder that you sprinkle over your dog's food. Hopefully you know that by now. It's a dog. Food supplement not the actual dog food the actual dog food the dry kibble dog food. That's been sterilized and has had all of the nutrients burned out of it in the sterilization process so that it can last two to three years on the on the grocery store shelf. Well this puts back into your dog's food all the nutrients that your dog needs the vitamins and minerals probiotics omega oils. All of that stuff. That helps make your dog. 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Think we have a picture of this kiss right where he like takes her by the head boy and just plants one honor. Oh boy on the lips right isn't he. I can't hang on you see that. It looks like he's kissing now. i'm not sure either. But it looks like he's definitely holding her head and pulling it toward him. Yeah i was with somebody. You don't know or barely know or just matt. Yeah he's touring wacked. Yeah during flooding or something and yeah and grabs her and kisses her weird going to make it better. That's just weird. She married at the time. She was at the time All my All right so A ninth this is the ninth woman to step forward have remember the new york post had thirty people come forward. Alrighty these are the official of with the investigation that assembly is doing but this accuser fifty five year old sherry ville said cuomo grabbed. Her face kissed her cheeks. Okay in front of her home in two seventeen okay. So that's what we saw. I know the difference between an innocent gesture in a sexual one. She said during a press conference. I never felt as uncomfortable as i did the day. governor cuomo came to my house. His actions were very overly sexual highly inappropriate and disrespectful to me and my family vilson told her she was beautiful and acted in a highly flirtatious and inappropriate manner. She just they're seeing constituent them through some sort of problem that they had with flooding in their home or whatever amazing and then. He grabs her and kisses her. She was married at the time. Her attorney gloria allred said her home to survey flood damage. Sure enough and there it is. Why don't you serving something. Yeah he surveyed her and liked what he saw. Goodness survey your cheek with my mouth. Oh killing and you know he's they discovered that he was rationing. Those test kits for covid for his family and friends when nursing homes and other entities were screaming for them to remember how he was like yelled at trump. We need ventilators. Yeah guys A real piece of work. He's a class act. I think you'd have to agree with this. State is doing so well to in all areas right. Yeah they're only number one in infections again in covid nineteen infections and hospitalizations. Okay but okay. They're only number one. You're cherry picking cova d- fair. Yeah but you know. There's peace and harmony in the streets. I don't think they're one in the world in leprosy so that gone forum thing. He's done a good job protecting citizens from leprosy right. And like i said there's peace and harmony in the streets of new york well except for the like five hundred percent increase in violent crime other than that. He's done a really good job. Cherry picking yet again folks all yeah 'cause ebola occurrences in new york city. I don't think they're that. Yeah there's again zero infections in new york right now. But there's harmony aside from the five hundred percent increase of caress. You don't have any recent examples of random acts of violence against people do you well. Let's see oh look at this. Let's see here we go. He's got something going. Nypd says sixty five year old asian. American woman was walking to church when a suspect assaulted her and said f. You you don't belong here happened in front of three sixty west forty third street at eleven forty in the morning. Jeez this is very tough to watch They have a security camera footage. Few on a show that all right and it goes a little something like this. Oh kicks her. What in the keys. But there's a security guard nearby. He's gonna run out there and save the day and be a hero. Oh gosh like four kicks in your chest and head this. Oh here comes out is going to go out there and get this guy's jerk off the oh no he's go no he's gonna shut the door and probably lock it. That is crazy. Did they catch that guy. The last i saw we have pictures of the suspect that they're circulating. I don't know if we have those available but there is a very large. Is that a white guy. I'm seeing on the screen. I can't see from the single looks like a white supremacy white. Supremacist black who's he's a black white. Supremacist i'm sure. He's a black white. So that's why he attacked. The asian person makes no right because he's black white supremacist. Well so at least. This is getting a lot of play on the news. I've been keeping my at least neil one's talking about i've been watching. Cnn all morning long. Those waiting for the footage of the black man beating off the elderly asian woman. So i'm sure they'll get right to it. They're just keep waiting for that. Sometimes we have a delay trying to load the footage into the computer right so we can play back in his. Probably exactly what's happening. Cnn for the last five hours exactly does happen. So she's terrible. Unbelievable that's really disturbing footage really disturbing You got. I don't know if you want to do with the dc uber driver. I mean that's that was horrific over the weekend you want show. That's pretty graphic disturbing To watch the kids by the end of this this is a carjacking by two black girls. They order ubereats once. Thirteen ones fifteen yet. And i think pepper spray the guy. Yeah and he's hanging out the door pakistani immigrant and they take off with him and slam him into two polls. And then they crash overturn the car. Now turn away if you don't want to see the deceased individual so your pooper driver didn't make it. He did not shocking. Cnn called this an accident. Oh really yeah. There's a car Yeah the pakistani emigrant died in the accident. Oh so muhammad anwar it was just a routine wreck out on the street just to try. Let's listen listen to my phone is in there. Are you kidding. Me lady happened. My phone is in there. The man is dead on the street. She is a foot away from him and she's screaming about her phone in the vehicle. Which she she caused by the way high carjacking cheese. That is just well. that's disturbing again. I've been watching cnn. Just we're going to get a ton of coverage on that. Yeah well because there's a lot of hate going on elect talk about it right. I mean this guy was a pakistani immigrant Woman before was an asian and they're all up in arms over got one lady turns one guy trying to earn a living And they're attacked. You're not the numbers on the crimes of asians were last year by the way I don't know. I really don't believe it was one hundred. Twenty eight one hundred and twenty eight in crimes and twenty twenty one twenty eight. It went from three in two thousand. Nineteen in new york and new york is one of the hot spots where they're saying it's happening so much. It went from three to twenty eight in a city of ten million. I mean the way they're describing this when you think. This is the most rampant out of control situation that we've seen in a really long time you would think thousands and thousands of people are being attacked in the streets every day and i mean we did see evidence of an asian woman being attacked. I don't know why if the black man that attacked her just hated asians. I don't know if he did say she didn't belong here. And he kicked her in the head several times. Oh gosh but I think For the most part if it could be something as simple as you know. You've just insulted somebody on the street. I mean that happens to everybody of every race and it just doesn't go reported right but but there's a huge push right now for reporting all of these things well. It's just interesting to me that when there's a white person involved yes you left off l. Yes yeah it's interesting that it's only reported when there's a white person involved i guarantee you if the new york city attack was a white guy. Oh it'd be all over cnn right now. You couldn't get away from it. That's all they'd be talking about all right. Happy world we live in. Yeah i think we showed some real real happiness going getting your Vaccine passport today zero. We'll see what sleep that today. Not today that you'll road between.

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What the government pays for at the border

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What the government pays for at the border

"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by Amazon web services. Whether it's searching for life on other planets or helping enterprises reinvent their industries AWS helps technology scale to meet the challenge. Learn more at AWS is how dot com slash podcast and Beck, clear Bank dot com. They're looking for ten thousand ecommerce companies to invest in this calendar year, the keyword here is investment, not loans. Clear Bank never takes equity or ownership of your company or personal guarantees if you'd like to see your company all over Facebook, Twitter and Instagram go to clear Bank dot com slash podcast that C L E A R B A N C dot com slash podcast to speak to their investment team. The future of insurance in this digital world. I'm David Brancaccio in New York. President Trump often defines a bigger trade deficit is a problem. And so some Macy a problem in news this morning that the difference between what the US buys from abroad. And what America exports is the largest since the last financial crisis. We can now say the trade gap rose twelve percent to six hundred twenty one billion dollars in two thousand eighteen despite US tariffs and other US Centric policies, but bigger trade deficits and not simply assign of suffering on Wednesdays. We get insight from Susan Schmidt had of US equities at Aviva investors. Good morning. Susan good morning. So the big deficit, I guess that is in part a function of the relatively strong economy. We have people feel good about things they spend more. So we're clearly buying more. The irony is that this is one of the biggest numbers we've seen in a time when the administration is really focused on reducing the trade deficit. Yeah. It's the highest is deficit since before the great financial collapse in two thousand eight I do note, though, that the deficit in goods is the highest ever but America sells services overseas, and the US has a surplus not a deficit when it comes to selling services here. Actually, right services is a place where the American economy excels, we're playing to our strength back to the idea of a strong economy. We have some new payroll numbers out today. And we have good payroll numbers out today. Probably payrolls were released, and we added one hundred eighty three thousand jobs importantly, last month's data was revised upward for January. We almost had three hundred thousand new jobs that shows that the underlying academy is still really strong. Susan Schmidt at Aviva investors. Thank you for this. Thank you now to the allocation of money and resources at the southern US border new numbers for February released by the feds. Citizenship and immigration services indicate that seventy six thousand people without documents came to the US border from Mexico last month twice the number from year ago. Marketplace's Andy Euler has more on how the budget for border security is not matching the realities on the ground when chief Brian Hastings of US border patrol addressed the media this week. He spelled out what this number of migrants means for his team twenty five to forty percent of our manpower is being dedicated to the care transportation in the humanitarian mission. Border officials say the staff aren't equipped to process and care for incoming migrants. Most from Central America often in need of immediate medical attention. The federal government allocated twenty two billion dollars for border security and immigration enforcement in last year's budget. But some of the problem is that difficulty of adjustment. That's Joe cya Hyman at the university of Texas El Paso, he says border efficiency requires a complete overhaul of how we do things there. Resource changes management, changes organizational, culture, changes he says, that's because most people are immediately surrendering seeking asylum, which means barriers aren't going to do much to help. But new funding in this year's budget does provide for construction of temporary processing center in El Paso and some money for the perpetually backlogged immigration court system. I mean either for marketplace. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by vistaprint. All it takes his ten dollars to create a truly professional unique card in minutes. Simply upload your own design or start with one of Vistaprint's professionally designed options and a wide range of templates pick, the paper stock style and quantity. Chooser delivery speed. Then your cards arrive in his few as three days with your satisfaction. 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DHS watchdog releases disturbing photos of migrant facilities, Trump's "Salute to America" to include tanks, flyovers, New Poll: Harris surges post-debate, in virtual tie with Biden; Warren seen as having the best policy ideas

Erin Burnett OutFront

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DHS watchdog releases disturbing photos of migrant facilities, Trump's "Salute to America" to include tanks, flyovers, New Poll: Harris surges post-debate, in virtual tie with Biden; Warren seen as having the best policy ideas

"Wc thrill ride that will change forever somebody should not be cnn out front next we have breaking news a ticking time bomb dangerous overcrowding it migrant facilities all documented in a new report disturbing pictures and a stunning account really from a long time border agents in twenty twenty contender marianne williamson snubbed by vote the left out of his piece about the women running for president why she's are guest plus why did mike pence cancel event at the last minute today's rush back to the white house new details ahead let's go out front good evening everyone i'm kate baldwin infer erin burnett out front tonight breaking news shocking new report detailing what officials call dangerous and potentially life threatening conditions at migrant shelters in texas this is the report from the inspector general at the department of homeland security what is inside these sixteen pages cannot be ignored mass overcrowding of children in adult some with no access to showers or cleaning closed described in this report at two facilities children a no access the hot meals for days as the government requires inspectors are also reporting that more than eight hundred children had been held longer than seventy the seventy two hour period be permitted before transfer is required the health and human services you can see then here in these images with what you can guess or their parents sleeping on the floor to give you an idea of these sheer magnitude of the crisis these photographs show adult standing shoulder to shoulder just look at it at one facility people were forced to stay in standing room only conditions for a week that's in this report at another some adults were held more than a month in overcrowded cells officials are describing the migrants as banging on sell windows and holding up signs for help one officials calling it quote it ticking time bomb cnn's nick valencia he spoke exclusively to a long time border agent in el paso agent described the border patrol culture recalling a supervisor even joking about dead migrant march who's making fun of him saying what the portland looking made it's just another life 'em he made a comment also regarding running over illegals and i'm like you've been run over people to say the least excellence is out front now and i'll paso texas showing that neck what more of that age italian will ask this longtime veteran agent who surfer years here in l paso area why are you deciding to speak out now and they said the people america deserves to hear the truth this agents said that they've seen in heard terrible things filthy conditions where cleaning crews only touched the surface and don't really do any deep cleaning and what she called just very filthy sells a she also said that agents are derogatory to peers why wouldn't they be derogatory to migrants in their custody on these are very serious allegations allegations that i took to customs and border protection here they did not give me an immediate response cape of what they did tell me was that they take these types of allegations very seriously and then they plan on turning it over to be inspector general a this agent went on to say that they do support the president's immigration policies i asked his agent do you believe the president's policies immigration policies have contributed to a what is being called the crisis here along the border a this agent told me that so long as the president has done has not done anything illegal or unethical that they should continue to speaking about border patrol agents in this area that they should continue to obey his orders in his directives here these again or very serious claim serious allegations which we took and we did not get any immediate response to from gdp continue asking the questions that is for sure nick thank you so much i really appreciate it out front now democratic congresswoman judy chu of california's she among a group of lawmakers who visited migrant facilities in texas justice we wanna thank you for being here thank you just personally interaction to that one border agents sitting down with are nick valencia and the way that border and talking about the culture on that she saw andy even a supervisor joking about running over dead migrants i have to commend the agent for speaking out a but it is not surprising we just saw the facebook post a that came from age group of border patrol agents there's ninety five hundred of them in this space but group in which they made fun of dead migrants including the father and daughter that were found lying face down in the in the rio grande and they were talking about throwing burritos at us the congress members were investigating the facilities yesterday aunt had derogatory tori depictions of congress member alexandrio cossio cortez it says to me that they see bp is out of control aunt that kind of conduct is unacceptable end shocking we now have also these disturbing images that we're showing we've been showing from this report from the inspector general clear overcrowding in some of these detention facilities in this situation like that is that what you saw during her visit yes we sweat today el paso border patrol station and we went to the clintons border patrol station we saw women who are crowded into these cells and as soon see women knew that we were congress members coming there a they start at talking cheers streaming down their faces by the conditions that they were facing they said that they had no idea when they were gonna be released they were there over fifty days a they had been separated from their children they could not get medication a one had a i epilepsy and they had an algorithm and then they said there were there was no running water and one told a alexandria or cossio cortez that a a when the woman complained about not having water and see agent said well drink from the toilet bowl so it is appalling ended is disgusting cars when we've we've heard be we've heard from you and others this account of an agent telling a woman to drink out of the toilet if she needs water the border patrol chief of operations brian hastings he's actually responded now to this and i wanna tell you what he said brian hastings says this drinking out of the toilet is completely untrue he says apple's supplies and that a lot of her stations look like cosco mean that's a second border patrol official that i've heard disputing when you were told what do you say to them you know what i say is that there is eight version of a truth in terms of how detainees are treated versus how cbp see bp portrays things for instance when we asked about office accounts from the attorneys about the children who were wearing they're saying closed feld was not in chairs toddlers who were soiling their parents because there were no diapers a lack of showers and lots of toothpaste and toothbrush is a we asked about that end the cbp official said none of that is true he actually said none of it was true he pointed to the toothbrushes and then said bacon brush their teeth anytime they want look at it this and yet those attorneys had interviewed sixty children an sixty children had pretty much given the same account of the treatment that they were given i think those children did not lie i i'm really starting to wonder because there is this very clear disconnect between the stories that were depictions of we're being told coming out of visiting the facility is firm attorneys bernie's and from lawmakers animals were hearing from customs and border patrol do you do with that in mind do you see that there's going to be do think there's going to be any change like what is going to change it this is now being you know go to this i g report this this is now off to the count we've had in weeks of the dire situation there if it's a ticking time bomb what's going to give there needs to be accountability and that's why and see oversight and the governor for reform committee is having a hearing even of this next week after they heard what happened yesterday so on and so is the role of congress is really important air on oversight is well but let me ask you about this because this week donald trump signed into law the emergency funding and build a congress passed on to try to help ease some of this crisis you voted against it 'cause he said there's one enough a safeguards in place of how the money's gonna be used but he's the situation is so dire why vote against the money because it did not have minimum standards for medical care nutrition and a sanitary provision other democrats and didn't see that they said the money's gonna run out we've gotta get there fast this is imperfect but it's good enough okay why is that on okay well let me tell you that they only saying written in the law in terms of how they detention center should be run is that they'd be safe unsanitary a the trump administration interpret that as a not even having janine toothbrushes toothbrushes they actually went to court and said that safe unsanitary does not mean including toothbrushes and so that's their interpretation of what safe unsanitary is that's why we need it that provide those guidelines as to what actual humane treatment indulge sentence that detention centers really actually means anta that's why we had other provisions for instance that these finds out here you go no no i hear it just comes down to it if the bs essence were talking about a ticking time bomb some money thrown out at that maybe a little craft time saying if somebody is better than nothing and that's wherever nancy nancy pelosi in a bipartisan group of lawmakers regardless severely would share we're so much more is needed this i g report is truly terrifying and something's gotta give and i really hope the definition of insanity where terry is something that there can be common definition of as soon as possible congressman thank you for coming in thank you i'll front for snacks the white house on the defensive over the president's fourth of july plans to the fourth of july celebration of this country's independence day aware that i'm not gonna lie politicize it but isn't that exactly exactly what the president is going to be doing air plus the five twenty phony even closer tonight a new pool but in calling harrison a statistical dead heat with joe biden can maintain this momentum plus those women of twenty twenty missing one woman marianne williamson why she got the newsworthy gives you all the day's news in less than ten minutes each weekday and there are stories about politics tech trends business entertainment but it's more convenient unless depressing then your typical news i call it fast fair and fun so it's fast it's less than ten minutes it's fair and unbiased i pulled from a collection of news sources you get many different perspectives in one place it's also fun high energy casual and upbeat quickly get informed and get on with your day with the newsworthy search for the newsworthy or go to that newsworthy dot com tonight breaking tradition president trump planning a fourth of july celebration like like no other literally calling for flyovers calling for tanks and something else he's planning a big speech something the president's past have avoided the national july fourth celebration by tradition is not politicals here's how white house counselor kellyanne conway describe though the themes that the president will be heading on mad at me how wonderful this country is are troops and military are great democracy and great called the patriotism patriotism the success of this administration in opening up so many jobs first individuals what we've done for veterans barbara starr is out front we're gonna have a great fourth july in washington dc it'll be like no other president trump claims the military is thrilled to be at his self proclaimed salute to america there's no way the no that's really true the military is required to do what the commander in she says his longest see order is legal president trump has wanted to show off the uss military in a large scale public events since seen the two thousand seventeen but still day parade in paris white house adviser to kellyanne conway defended thursdays event and rejected claims it's to politico the fourth of july celebration of this country's independence hail arafat i'm not gonna lie politicize it but it's been sending the message i think that are military might are prowess is renowned throughout the world so i don't think that some flyovers and a few static displays of tanks or going to demonstrate parade that to the world or the american people general joseph dunford chairman of the joint chiefs acting defense secretary mark asper and other senior military leaders are now expected to attend nine hundred troops from the washington dc national guard are being activated for security duty that's triple the number routinely deployed for the holiday we're gonna have planes going over as the best fighter jets and the world and other planes to and we're gonna have some tax stationed outside to am one tanks and to armored vehicles have been brought to washington but each tank sixty tons it's not clear if they can be park near the ninety seven year old lincoln memorial without damaging area there will be a flood of the f twenty two n b f thirty five their forces latest fighter jets also the planes used as air force one and even the new marine one presidential helicopter cost her all of this nobody knows the republican national committee of distributing reserved tickets for vip's friends and family and members of the military july fourth as a holiday to celebrate celebrate our independence is a country are freedoms of the country we've done for decades and decades without it being directly tied to the military if president trump veers into partisan politically remarks on july fourth expect to see those senior military officers present state very quiet and not react they are determined to stay out of any partisan political debate k and that may be a minefield thanks so much barbara out front now john wall national affairs correspondent for the nation and mark laudner director of strategic communications for the trump campaign thanks for being here so market we we heard kellyanne conway speak today and she says the president will be talking in part about successes of the administration in this moment that by definition is politically i mean traditionally president's don't even take part in a celebration to avoid this convince us all this isn't about politics and running for reelection well i'll tell you this is about celebrating america and it's about celebrating our military i mean when when are founding fathers at the end of the declaration of independence day pledges there live their fortune in their sacred honor they knew it would take more than a piece of paper to get that independence it would take man he rose willing to take up arms and fight for it we still have that fight today for freedom not only of this country but around the world i think it's right to showcase america's military and the great things they're doing around the country and john i mean you folks data be careful here because is what if what if donald from the new italian so there's gonna do what if he stands up their end game is completely politically gives a speech that is he read the declaration of independence from the stage it's still not done it's not what american presidents do they have not done done this i also wanna correct mark we have men and women fighting for our country but we we i one of my favorite memories i'm dating myself here but i was in washington for the bicentennial in nineteen seventy six i was quite young a but i do remember it i even tell you i've been thinking driving here who is president gerald ford the republican i'm a democrat it never crossed my mind we don't need to do this we don't need tanks in are streets that's not american we don't need flyovers this is a beautiful beautiful celebration i've done it several times actually it's already patriotic we don't need to make a partisan more one thing that you you said it of course there's moments and everyone should of course support the men and women of the military we're retired admiral john kirby works the cnn he said to me today so this is this day is not about the tools and troops have helped us stay free it's about the idea of freedom and it should be above just one branch of government should be above just the military or any branch of government and certainly about politics right why don't think this is about politics six celebrating america's celebrating the men and women who are defending our freedoms and our constitution i also don't remember any kind of uproar in nineteen eightyfour when ronald reagan reopened the statue of liberty on board military battleships all ships west lee statue of liberty behind him over the course of a four day three day celebration it was celebrating america and yes the military was involved there will be fireworks involved both then both now and so i think a lot business people trying to make it political when really it's just gonna be a celebration of our country or is it a the dnc getting any tickets to give away i haven't heard about that and in fact i heard today that they're not if they're only going to be rnc dancy tell cnn but they're not getting any any tickets a source tells cnn the mark that they campaign got the trump campaign got tickets how many i i'm not sure how many tickets is not unusual for a for these kinds of organizations have friends family nearby and that's the way review that i remember working in a state political party back in two thousand and four when president bush was having hey unofficial event in our state party help distribute tickets it's standard operating procedure and i would also say it's the same thing that goes on the other end of the national more rain windows leaders by the people but if they are receiving vip tickets in this over talking about in general mission it's orange he's receiving vip tickets and the dnc is not if you're trying to keep this above politics and avoid this looking political how is this helping well again i'm saying this is not unusual for any politician of either party do they know what actually is unusual in in in in in math national event inauguration every every member of congress congress gets tickets to it and white house events sure those can be handed out because that's the that is where the present resides and hands out the tickets for it not a national celebration like that then i would also say though at the other end of the national mall v western front of the capitol reserved for the leadership who distribute those tickets so again this is not something unusual i was on the national mall last year at the capitol and i didn't see a general public lined the get in you had that have tickets from the speaker the majority leader or their or their leadership offices right let's first and foremost see what the president's says and then we got a fun debate about it afterwards read say mark thanks so much thank you out front next the fight for twenty twenty a potential opening after a major shift show support for joe biden and bernie sanders start a slip plus the women if you wanna get the vote treatment except for one marianne williamson why she's here with hi i'm bill kristol feel confused about politics who isn't that's why it's my podcast conversations with bill kristol thoughtful conversations with leading figures in politics and public policy we reflect on where we are and we consider sitter wherever going subscribe i tunes or wherever you get your podcast and check out the archive conversations with guests like mike murphy david axelrod round round seen in public out no spin no soundbites just thoughtful real conversations please describe today the conversations with bill kristol tonight if anybody's race new polls are showing a dramatic reset in the race for the democratic nomination for president then calmly harris is now in a virtual dead heat with joe biden in one new poll harris up thirteen points since a breakout debate performance biden down eight points since last month is now biden at twenty two harris at twenty that within the margin of error and worth noting this isn't an outlier that poll this tracks with what cnn's new poll found post betas well and then the crucial early state of iowa harris is also seeing a surge there now sixteen percent second place the biden who supports sports fans at twentyfour for comparison the cnn poll taken before the debates shows harris in the middle of the pack in ireland with just seven percent in harris is hoping to build on that momentum she's gonna be spending the next three days crisscrossing the hawkeye state and it's not just harris dishonorable elizabeth warren is also seeing game seeing big gains mj lee is following her campaign she's out front live in las vegas for us tonight mj some very good news for warren in this new quinnipiac poll is well that's right kate elizabeth warren had a strong debate performance last week and this new poll shows that she is still in the double digits and actually edging out bernie sanders in the pool and this is a campaign in a candidate that has released bet big on policy and substance and for the time being about appears to be paying off a in this poll about a third of those that were pulled thing but they believe elizabeth warren has the best policy ideas and i should note out she is kicking off a two day swing here in nevada vita and she is going to be bringing her populace message a to a state that was devastated by the financial crisis or on ten years ago you remember that when the housing bubble bubble burst there were a lot of people across the state who ended up losing their homes the foreclosures closures and i just wanna leave you with a quick snapshot of what is at stake heading into next year and the election when we spoke to a couple of voters the fifteen minutes outside of the vegas strip in a neighborhood these voters the first three people that we spoke to basically saying but they feel like they economy is doing well how they economy is doing next year is going to be such an important factor in determining what happens in this race because the folks drawings are inclined to think the economy is doing well for their families they're probably going to be less inclined to want change in the white house state that is a great point that is that is tough news you hear from the from those voters they just go there for the democratic field thanks mj now democratic congressman al green he's endorsed calmly harris president congressman thank you for being here my honor to be with you thank you thank you it is clear across the bulletin board in all of these new poll that has got a big boost from the last debate how it's a launch how she's a stat well i think that these polls tend to go up and down but i do believe that she gave eight presidential presentation she has demonstrated demonstrated that she has the courage to prosecute the case she will prosecute the case against the russian involvement in our elections prosecute the case for reproductive rights for women prosecute the case though the dreamers gonna have a pathway to citizenship prosecutes it's a case against the these assault weapons that are killing kids even in schools so i think that demonstrating that she has the courage and the knowledge and that she will be there for the american people has made her a person for consideration there is one big red flag for harrison these polls and that's policy if you look at just this new quinnipiac poll elizabeth warren tops the pack on who democrats think has the best policy ideas harris is behind her behind standard andy eyeing biden on that how's that not a problem i think we're early in the race still unfortunately these racism starting earlier and earlier with a long way from iowa which takes place next year i think she'll have her policy positions welldefined and i think she's also being very deliberate about this as she wants to make sure that what she says is something that will be defended and she presented herself very well when she does maker policy statements i think she'll have the policy positions at the american people respect the most important quality that we've seen in polling and i'm fascinated by this endlessly is the most important quality in events will nominee for democrats remains who has the best chance of beating donald trump biden was far and away the leader in the cnn poll on this end this quinnipiac poll finds the same divide and tops the field at forty two percent do in that is the best chance of beating trump parents in a second but it doesn't want it fourteen percent that's critical the voters but how chip away at that well the vice president has had opportunities to be on center stage for many years he was there with the president obama he is a well known entity a miss harris the senator harris has the opportunity now to presented herself and i think the these things take time we're still in infancy what this election a after some time has passed and people get to know her and her positions i think will find that they'll believe that she is the person who is electable after all on that stage she didn't demonstrated that she can be formidable challenger a she demonstrated that she could take on trump and that she could take on food and and i think the american people will appreciate that in the long run if you definitely demonstrate chicken take on biden harrison gaining some ground in the new national polling among black voters she's now at twenty seven percent but she does trail biden who's had a default support among african american voters for quite some time in owning pulled lightens up twelve in that regard do you think joe biden deserves the support of black voters i think he deserves the opportunity to be heard all of the candidates do and i think that he is now running for president he was on the ticket with another candidate president obama who had the defender the positions of the campaign as it were but he now has the opportunity to be heard like the rest of the canada's and he'll have to defend his positions you can't have it presidential election and shy away from you a history of past and the positions that you've taken i think that the senator harris will defend her positions her past her history kansas and it can't be trusted she hasn't mattered african american voters in you know or talking where do i think that he can't be trusted we ask you a question yeah no i'm not saying that this this is not something that i would take all and to the extent that i would demeaned the vice president i happen to like the vice president i just happen to think that senator harris is going to make a better president than he would i happen to think that she is a the future she's what the the the people of this country looking for as we move into a future should that looks toward the working people working families making sure that young people in coal cages into the process i think she'll bring a lot of new faces into this process and she'll make a difference when we run against the president's congressman and thanks for being here thank you out front for us next her answer shit who would be her first call as president's went viral homeless to prime minister of new zealand marianne williamson is out front plus we breaking news the trump administration backing down over its demand to include a citizenship question in the twenty twenty census remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash cnn tonight though treatment all of the women running for president appearing in the new issue of vogue magazine talking about what it's like to run the president's well all of the women except one marianne williamson conspicuously absent from the profile end the photo shoot that same marianne williamson joins me out front now thank you so much for being here thank you so much for having me do you know why you weren't part of this profile about this it's about the history being made historic number of women running i know i just selling online like everybody else did so a lot of people tweeting about it now nobody no one reached out to you no one gave you an answer no one down there the scheduling conflict part or well no no no no although when when we asked about it we were told at their decision was to make it only about the elected officials and that i do talent because let me decision i wanna hear that they would vote said one fan and ask them about it marianne they said this where no way discrediting marianne williamson and all she's accomplished for the photo vote one into a highlight the five female lawmakers who bring a collective forty years of politically experience to this race so that makes sense to you know it absolutely does not because the framers of the constitution were very clear about who's qualified to run for president did not make any media certainly not vogue magazine the gatekeeper here the phone framers of the constitution said that in order to run for president in order to be qualified to be president you have to have been born here you had to lift here for fourteen years and you have to be thirty five years or older now if they had wanted to say you had to have been elected official they would have and they didn't for a reason they were leaving attack every generation to determined for itself the skill set that generation feels his most necessary in order to navigate the times in which we lives and that kind of bias on the part of media it's very insidious city us it's very subtle it's a suggestion that only those who have elected elected office in their past are qualified now this is not in any way to minimize or to disparage those qualifications but there are other kinds of qualifications and franklin roosevelt said that the primary aspect of the presidency he said they administrative aspect is secondary and the primary well he said is moral leadership so this should not be anybody's decision but they american people yeah i mean so vogue offered to spread now would take part i guess i mean that sort of thing we offer that actually if i said you know she'd be glad to do with the story a story and they wrote back and said well thank you so much but they offer okay well this isn't this is the first chance and we've had talked to you since 'em since the big debate and there was something the guy then you said a moment that got a lot of folks nodding their heads almost almost warning that you offered up the democratic party when plant which is really so we've got all these plans but if you say within a beat donald trump by just having all these plans you've got another thing coming because he didn't win by saying you gotta plan he won by simply saying make america great again we gotta get deeper then just say superficial six is do you think that anyone else in the democratic field got that i don't know i know what i was saying though if you look at marianne twenty twenty dot com if you look at my issue section which has been up there since the beginning i have very detailed policy plans however i also remarks when john kennedy said we're we're going to the moon he didn't say i've i've got i'm gonna talked all these nasa scientists and see if maybe we can make it happen i'm talking about the role of imagination and inspiring people i'm talking about what it takes actually what motivates people and that is going to be necessary if we're going to defeat donald trump donald trump did not win just because of the people who are passionate about him donald trump also one because of many people who did not vote and many people who voted a third party so if he's going to win again it won't be just because people who are who are so excited about him if he wins again it would be because not enough people were inspired and my point is we have to talk about a vision for this country not just prosecuting against what was which isn't necessary but also inspiring what america can be i think people are exhausted the fight and what i'm talking about is they've vision for america addressing the things we need to address in order to the united states it'd be better than ever in the twenty first century and without that we will not win and twenty twenty there is also a moment another moment in the debate when everyone on the stage was asked what was the first order of business the first thing you want a tackle if you win here's what you saw so my callers to prime minister of new zealand said that homeless make new zealand the place where it's the best place in the world for a child to grow up and i will tell her girlfriend newer so long because they not a sense of america it's the best place in the world for a child to grow up that answer gotten a lot of attention as well you're first order of business that you want accomplish in the white house our first of all you have more the one thing but you do when you enter the oval office out there for but a pillar of my campaign is to addressed the quantocks trauma of millions of american children who go to school every day in classrooms at don't even have adequate school supplies with which to teach her child to reid and child cannot learn to read by the age of eight the chances of high school graduation drastically decreased and the chances of incarceration of drastically increase many of these children millions of the oldest go hungry millions of the living what are called america's domestic war zones where psychologist tell us what they're experiencing a level of ptsd there is no less severe than the ptsd returning veterans from afghanistan or iraq now they're despair despair is simply normalized by the political establishment to me we should be rescuing these children know differently than if they were the victims of a natural disaster it is a pillar of my campaign that's why i want a department of children and youth i want in just like just send are dan the prime minister of new zealand has said she wants wants new zealand to be the best place in the world for a child to grow up i want every school in the united states divvy up palace of learning that it's not nothing these children to me this is a civil rights issue how much the despair of millions and millions of children just because they're not old enough to work so they have no financial leverage they're not old enough to vote so they're not a constituency their needs are routinely dismissed that should not happen in the united states of america marijuana some thank you so much for coming in on the trail thank you thank you a front for us next vice president mike pence abruptly canceling event in new hampshire he and his staff already on the tarmac ready to go instead returning to the white house why end the star of iconic films pretty insane jon cryer is out front talk about cnn original series and the movie the right sheets can take your sleep and you're style to the next level with boll and branch b upgrade has never ever been more affordable every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton they get softer and softer over time that's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three us presidents have boll and branch sheets try them for thirty nights and if you don't love them send them back for a full refund go to bollandbranch dot com today for fifty dollars off your first set of sheets plus free shipping with promo code cnn to spelled b o l l andbranch dot com that's bollandbranch dot com promo code cnn too breaking news the trump administration says it will now printing twenty twenty census without a question about citizenship status and that is a major turnaround for the president's who vowed to add the question even in the face of the supreme court striking down critics are celebrating the move saying it with a veiled originally it was a veiled politically play trying to suppress immigrant community an immigrant communities pamela brown is out front pan this is a huge about face it is it is they stinging defeat kate for the trump administration over the census citizenship question where are just a day after president trump this with yesterday here at the white house officials were looking at delays the census administration we have learned and has now decided to move forward with printing it without the controversial question in the wake of the supreme court putting the citizenship question on hold for now that president trump has said repeatedly the question is important and understanding whether a person is in the usa legally but critics said as you pointed out it wasn't attempt to politicize the census and scare immigrants from taking part in it a commerce secretary wilbur ross released a statement today saying he respects the supreme court but strongly disagrees with this ruling and that the department will conduct a complete an accurate census case there's also found this mysterious front of events today with vice president mike pence suddenly cancelling an event in new hampshire at the last minute hina staffer on the tarmac ready to go and they were told the turnaround what about this yeah that's right there's a lot of mystery surrounding this abrupt cancellation of an event at a rehab facility in new hampshire today the vice president's supposed to attend i'm told that the plane had not taken off but he was ready to go up that vice president his with on the tarmac now a senior administration official said shortly after they didn't have to do with national security and it's not personal in nature not health related to the vice president or the president pence is chief of staff mark short told reporters including reporter for bloomberg is that there will be more on what happened later on and then when asked win that would be he replied weeks from now so it's unusual for the vice president's cancel going to an event with such short notice without more explanation nation i've reached out repeatedly to those on the vice president's team and have not heard that tonight up and according to short will find out soon kate so so fascinating one thing the cancel event it's another thing to be on the tarmac mac ready to go and then hold back a lot of questions instill eventually comes out so we say well this week and you're recording over again to us courtesy of them thanks so much to the front for us next actor jon cryer storrow pretty in pink is front with more on cnn new original series the movie hey it's howard beck and i've got clippers guard landry shamet on bleacher reports the full forty eight i'm not just shooting guard and not just the shooter i know what i'd be outside of the chicken the full forty eight now on the bleacher report app or subscribe on apple podcasts this weekend cnn is taking you to the movie the brand new original series about the story behind the movies that we all love so much premiers sunday night here's a preview there is still something about eight or something it's been raining handcrafted to mosaic that's been carefully piece together it just creates this opportunity totally losers these images just living unconscious days are much music is recalled in our heads those images ripley and we'll bring all the elements of all of our senses together there's really nothing else like it even though you do some incredibly personal in many ways criminal justice in the world could change the trajectory ahead of the series aired had the chance talk to actor jon cryer about his role and one of vip comic book movies of the nineteen eighties joining me now is actor jon cryer he starred in a number of hit movies and television shows including the blood character ktar duckie in pretty in pink and john gotta be so amazing you know you look back over your career and all the different things you've done and people you've worked with one of the most iconic though of course a four teenagers was pretty in pink duckie you it's amazing how little you change over time i mean there's no questioning of who you are a funny sweet charming underdog what do you what do you remember the most about playing that role about being duckie well the wardrobe a wardrobe was very memorable because i had expected to be much much cooler looking a an extra you're showing a clip from when i actually did manage to look there yeah and that's a it's the bowler ties doing a lot of work there a say a is at the end the hair and then norma's amount of hair which as you could see i've gone a different way a recently but i think i remember the day abiding thing was i had seen the breakfast club anna and i i was so excited to be working on a film of john hughes is a an end with molly and 'cause he took he took teenagers innate in in any more serious way then a lot of filmmakers makers at the time and i appreciated that as as a former to no drugs because i think it was nineteen or nineteen or twenty when i when i actually got the part an end you know it it it to your point it was something that you know somebody banks and pain of being a teenager was much was made much more real a by by this is free and pink and and other movies at that time when that came out i was around ten ninety six there's a picture of me like it's wonder like you live quite a bit 'em young at the time but i did see it as a teen at one of my favorite scenes was within the rocker store heritage you know i love i love that i love you and that scene what is your favorite moment in the movie it was probably the scene right after that a where of were duckie realizes that the andrew mccarthy has shown up and that's molly's character is actually expecting to go out with him

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Full Episode: Friday, July, 16 2019

World News This Week

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Full Episode: Friday, July, 16 2019

"Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you connect with your professional counselor in a private online environment schedule secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get Ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash world news from A._B._C. News World News this week Stevenson in New York coming up that you actually totally exonerate the President Robert Muller testifies to Congress and Democrats ratched debate. What's next year going to see what remedies we could recommend? Including the possibility of impeachment protesters get the Best Puerto Rico's governor the Fed slap facebook with a record fine is more central than ever to our vision for the future and the U._K.'s new prime minister tackles brexit will throw us into these negotiations people and events that made headlines when world news this week continues. You have a dream but don't know where to begin. I didn't want to be limited looking for wisdom for women who've already been there you will constantly be given the opportunity to lose yourself. Welcome to A._B._C.'s no limits. I'm your host Rebecca Jarvis and each week we're talking to the game. Changing women about success lessons learned along the way and of course the worst advice. I really thought about this worst advice ever you can hear new episodes of no limits every week on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast podcast APP. It might not have been with Democrats. Were hoping for but this week Robert Muller finally appeared on Capitol Hill the entire world seem to tune in Wednesday as lawmakers peppered the former special counsel with dozens of questions in two hearings that lasted six hours. A._B._C.'s Mary Bruce was at the Capitol for at all Robert Muller walking into a hearing two years in the making you swear he was a reluctant witness but Democrats forced him to appear pressing him on whether the President obstructed opted Justice Director Muller the president has repeatedly claimed that your report found there was no obstruction and that is completely and totally exonerated him but that is not what you report said. Is it correct that is what the report says so the report did not conclude that he did not commit obstruction of justice. Is that correct that is correct and what about total exoneration did you actually totally exonerate the president no but Muller did not reach the conclusion on obstruction because the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel says a sitting president cannot be indicted but can he be charged after he leaves office. You could charge the president United States with obstruction of justice after he left office yes again and again again. Democrats went back to the report to highlight the ten incidents of possible obstruction by the president including when trump allegedly ordered his former White House counsel Don mcgann to fire Mueller but did the President Obstruct Muller Republicans pointed out mother kept his job. Were you ever fired a special counsel Mr Method of no now where where are you allowed to complete your investigation unencumbered. Yes Republicans argued Muller was out of bounds for offering examples of potential obstruction without drawing a conclusion you wrote a one hundred eighty pages one hundred and eighty pages about decisions that weren't reached about potential crimes that weren't charged and I speak for a second muller offered a passionate defense of his team as Republicans accused them of political. Bias at been in this business for almost twenty five years twenty five years I have not had occasion wants to ask somebody about their political affiliation. It is not done what I care about is the capability of the individual to do the job and do the job quickly an seriously and with integrity still Republicans said it's over. It's time for the curtain to close on the Russia hoax. The conspiracy theory is dead. He said the Russians are added again right now. Would you agree that it. It was not a hoax that the Russians were engaged in trying to impact our election. Absolutely that was not a hoax and after six hours one last question I gather that you believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during the presidential campaign is an unethical thing to do and crime and a crime circumstances and to the given circumstances and to the degree that it undermines democracy and our institutions we can agree that it's also unpatriotic through and wrong drew Mary Bruce A._B._C. News capitol. Hill pressure is growing on Democratic leaders to decide whether or not to impeach president trump more from A._B._C.'s cure phillips in Washington as Congress prepares for August recess Democrats are grappling with tensions within their own ranks amid the fallout over Robert Muller's testimony. You actually totally exonerate the President Komo following that hearing five more Democrats have voiced support for impeachment bringing the total to ninety seven in the meantime Democrats have vowed to push forward with their investigations House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Friday with one of impeachments impeachments most vocal supporters twenty minutes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi emerged from a meeting with freshman congresswoman Alexandria Akhazia Cortez. The congresswoman is a very gracious member of Congress so we had a very positive hundred of conversation about our districts and how we represent them I've country the meeting has been on the books for at least a week following some tension between Pelosi and the so-called squad when asked by reporters of the to solve their differences Pelosi replied. I don't think we have that many Serena the Marshall A._B._C. News Washington also Friday House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler announced. He is filing a lawsuit to obtain grand jury material underlying the Muller Report. We are investigating well. This and we are going to see what remedies we could recommend commend including the possibility of artists impeaching. We're not limited to that. President trump responded hours later. They want to investigate they WANNA go fishing and I watched Bob Muller and they have nothing. There's no collusion. There's no obstruction the president speaking in the Oval Office alongside officials from Guatemala who signed an agreement to restrict U._S.. Asylum applications from Central America. Meanwhile Russia and others remain determined to interfere in U._S.. Elections the evidence in a bipartisan report released Thursday by the Senate Intelligence Committee Committee is not just Russia intelligence officials fear China Iran and other countries could target the twenty twenty election and we're learning disturbing new detail about just how pervasive the Russian attack on the two thousand sixteen election actually was the new Senate intelligence report says the Russians is likely attempted to find weaknesses and the voting systems of all fifty states probing and scanning voting systems of at least twenty one st according to the report the Russians stole or looked at the personal data of hundreds of thousands of voters from at least two states including building Illinois the good news at the U._S.. Government states have improved election security but the chilling question is exactly why was Russia's looping around all those older systems in two thousand sixteen and exactly. What are they planning for the future just a day after former special counsel also Bob Muller issued that stark warning the Russians are attacking US quote as we sit here? Senator McConnell blocked election security measures calling for the use of paper ballots in all states saying the Democrats were simply playing politics on the heels of Mother's testimony. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Republicans are putting their heads in the sand more proof. They can't seem to agree on anything here in Washington. Let's A._B._C. News Chief Justice correspondent Pierre Thomas in Washington. The political crisis in Puerto Rico came to an end this week when on Wednesday embattled Governor Ricardo Rodeo announced his resignation for the hundreds of thousands who had been demanding Governor Ricardo Rocha Yo step down he made it clear in his late night address to the island their demands were overwhelming the streets of old San and one erupting moments after the Governor Announces Resignation Their celebration was underway as the embattled governor's message started in mental put it was incredible to watch the crowds silence got huddled together. They were holding their phones to their ears. As that highly anticipated address stream live the governor saying his resignation will go in effect August second now these protesters so many of them millennials looking looking forward to a new era now. Do you hope for that future last night. Maybe goals reporter Rico's Governor Ricardo CEO to step down reaching their highest levels Monday and islandwide strike belting out there Donald Cry Ricky resigned after the leak of those obscenity laced sexist and homophobic group juts between the governor and his closest advisers mocking and insulting some constituents really percents that is working there for the people of Puerto Rico are not for their own benefits and the benefits of their own friends. The focus now is on a smooth transition of power. The Secretary of Justice is next in line. Her name is Wanda Vazquez Victor. Oh kind of A._B._C. News San Juan. We heard Tuesday from a U._S.. Citizen who was released from Federal Immigration Facility after being held for more than three weeks he plans to sue the Federal Government Francisco Galaxia Board in Dallas and a U._S.. Citizen was traveling in a car that was stopped at a checkpoint in Texas. He was carrying documents including driver's license but federal agents thought they were fake and Galaxia was taken to a detention center where he was held for twenty three days. The eighteen year old said while there he lost lost at least twenty pounds was kept an area with up to seventy other men and they were not allowed to brush their teeth Galaxia says the conditions were so bad he considered volunteering to be deported C._B.. P An icee they are researching the facts of the situation Brian Clark A._B._C. News on Capitol Hill Thursday the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing examining the trump administration's immigration policy lawmakers heard from officials about family separations and conditions at Border Patrol Facilities Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler Press Border Patrol chief Brian Hastings tastings on why parents had been deported without their children U.. Ado The deportation before the reunification without any knowledge of whether the parents are being reunified yes so in other words you're kidnapping the child kidnapping the child carry the guidelines lines that are out the wording apparent without their child is literal kidnapping the committee's top Republican Congressman Doug Collins of Georgia accused Democrats of being more interested in trying to make the president look bad than in addressing the crisis at the border. We don't talk about what actually is happening why they're being separated and if you want to keep kids with unfit parents do you want to keep kids actually been bought and paid for and brought across dealer then. That's what you're advocating the. Maybe we need to talk about something different Thursday morning more than a dozen United States marines screens were arrested some on human trafficking charges. The mass arrests came during a battalion formation at Camp Pendleton the largest military base in California one by one the sixteen marines pulled from the formation by authorities in front of their peers handcuffed and taken into custody. All are lower ranking enlisted men arrested said the Marine Corps for alleged involvement in various illegal activities from human smuggling to drug. Related offenses. These arrests were triggered. After two Marines from the same base were charged earlier this month with transporting three undocumented Mexicans for financial gain those marines were allegedly contacted by a recruiter cruder in Mexico and told where to pick up the migrants once they crossed into the U._S.. The documents say the Marines were spotted by a border agent just seven miles from Mexico with the migrants in the back. One of the Marines who was arrested said he was promised one thousand dollars for the pickup their arrest triggered a broader investigation officials say none of those arrested served as part of the Defense Department's border mission but Camp Pendleton is less than fifty miles from the boarder a._B._C.. News Chief Global Affairs correspondent Martha Raddatz reporting from Washington in New York Jeffrey Epstein was briefly hospitalized Tuesday after being found in his jail cell unresponsive. Was it a suicide attempt or an assault. An investigation is is now underway to determine just what happened inside a New York City jail cell that left Jeffrey Epstein unconscious with marks on his neck investigators initially thought the wounds were self inflicted believing he might have tried to take his own life but after the sixty six year old was revived he told authorities he couldn't remember what had happened and a fellow inmate Nicholas Tag Leone told investigators he didn't know either because he had headphones on but a lawyer for our tag Leone former police officer accused of murder told our Johnson a different different story mic knows what happened. We're not going to talk about my purpose is to say definitively. Nick had nothing to do with hurting anybody in the facility and in particular Mr Obscene sources tell A._B._C. News. The Bureau of prisons is now trying to determine termine if Epstein was assaulted by another inmate or paid someone to beat him up Epstein is accused of exploiting and abusing dozens of minor girls some just fourteen years old. He's pleaded not guilty to federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy last week. A judge rejected his request for bail and just this week Palm Beach County launched a criminal investigation to determine if any of its sheriff's deputies failed to properly monitor Epstein while he was on work release eleven years ago. That was A._B._C.'s Linsey Lindsay Davis in New York. The federal government plans to resume capital punishment. The announcement made Thursday by the Department of Justice Celeste Federal Execution was in two thousand and three now Attorney General William Bar has ordered five executions to move forward the first is scheduled in December for Daniel Louis Lee a white supremacist convicted two decades ago of murdering a family of three including an eight-year-old girl two days later Lesbian Mitchell will be put to death by lethal injection. He fatally stabbed a grandmother and granddaughter. The Attorney General called them among the worst criminals and he said we I went to the victims and their families to carry forward the death sentence A._B._C.'s Aaron Katersky reporting on Friday the Justice Department Green lighted a twenty six billion dollar merger between Sprint and T. Mobile. The deal approved by the Department of Justice after attorneys general from from five states reached a settlement that settlement requiring newly merged sprint corp and t mobile US INC to divest sprint's prepaid businesses including boost mobile virgin mobile and sprint prepaid to dish network T. Mobile and sprint must also make thousands of redundant towers and cell sites available to dish and provide dish with access to T. mobile's five G. Network for the next seven years while dish builds its own network dish will become the fourth nationwide facilities-based wireless competitor Ryan Burrow A._B._C. News Chicago facebook vows to make changes after after confirming its historic settlement with federal regulators facebook will pay a record five billion dollar fine to the Federal Trade Commission for Privacy Violations C._E._o.. Mark Zuckerberg holding an employee townhall meeting announcing changes will becoming privacy is more central than ever to our vision for the future and we're going to change the way that we operate across the whole company from the leadership down in the ground facebook announcing now it is the focus of a separate government antitrust investigation. Alex Stone A._B._C. News hours after the settlement was made public on Wednesday facebook revealed. It's already facing a new F._T._C. investigation this time for possible antitrust violations moving overseas prosecutors in Sweden announced formal charges Thursday state against American rapper rocky and two associates the platinum selling rapper asep rocky isn't going anywhere. He's been in a Swedish jail for three weeks and now president trump is making even more twitter demands of the Swedish government to free him. Swedish prosecutors have charged thirty year old with assault they say Asep Rocky whose real name is rocky. Mayors won't be released until the case is complete now soon after his arrest celebrities came to his defense including Kim Kardashian West and husband in Konya who lobbied the White House for help and the president he has tweeted about the situation ever since even speaking with the prime minister by phone but now he is scolding the country for how they treat jailed Americans tweeting Sweden has let <music> our African American community down in the United States. I watched the tapes of Asep Rocky and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers adding treat Americans fairly nowadays second tweet. The president writes we do so much for Sweden. Sweden weedon should focus on it's real crime problem. Sweden has responded saying the government is not allowed and will not attempt to influence the legal proceedings which are now ongoing rockies lawyers have maintained. He acted in self defense. The president has is even offered to vouch for rockies bail. Even though there is no bail system in Sweden many are seeing the president's staunch defense of a separate rocky as pandering to the Black Community Stephanie Ramos A._B._C. News Washington president trump invited Pakistan's prime administer to the White House on Monday. The two leaders discussed the nearly two decade long war Afghanistan Pakistan's neighbor. The meeting happened shortly after Iran announced it arrested more than a dozen Iranian citizens accused of spying for the United States as an Chom push back on claims James Bhai Iran that it had arrested C._I._A.. Spies Iran's accused Seventeen Rania nationals of spying on its nuclear facilities and meeting with C._I._A.. Officers that's totally false story. That's another lie they put out propaganda. They put out lies. The president signaled the ball. All is Iran's court when it comes to negotiations with the U._S.. But said Iran's behavior was making it more difficult for him to make a deal Karen Travers A._B._C. News the White House the president also dealing with an increasingly hostile North Korea which shut off too short range missiles on on Thursday about this week's North Korean missile launches where the where the reports the department spokesperson Morgan Ortega's not saying North Korea broke the agreement between the president and Kim Jong on bud urged him more provocations both sides had promised more or peace talks within weeks of the last meeting between the President and Kim that still hasn't happened Andy Field A._B._C. News Washington and one of the United States closest allies has a new leader who president trump says reminds him a lot of himself in his I address in parliament since becoming Prime Minister Boris Johnson urged the European Union to rethink its refusal to renegotiate the Brexit deal in a rowdy session in the comments Johnson pledge we will throw us into these negotiations with the greatest energy and determination added a spirit of friendship and I hate that the E._U. will be equally ready and that they will rethink the talent refusal to make any changes to the withdrawal but if the E._U. refuses to play ball if they do not we would have cost half to leave the U. K. without an agreement under article fifty the U._K.. Is Better to prepare for that situation the many believe but we are not as ready yet as we should be in the ninety eight days it remained to us. We must turbo charge preparations to make sure that there is little disruption as possible to our national. Life and he threatened if the does not reopen withdrawal discussions. He says they won't be getting a divorce deal. Check from the U._K.. Of some forty eight billion dollars Tom Rivers A._B._C. News London back in the U._S.. A raging controversy so you one Pennsylvania School district finally comes to an end with no children being taken from their parents school board members at Wyoming Valley West School district in Pennsylvania having a change of heart when it comes to accepting a donation to pay off lunch bills for parents who fell behind mind local resident buried Tenenbaum says giving into giving was the right thing to do. I think there should except I think it was a very nice donation as well the CO founder and C._E._o.. Of philadelphia-based Coffee House Law Colom Offering to give twenty two thousand dollars to the the district to clear the tab for outstanding lunch bills that after learning the board sent letters to some parents saying they risked losing their kids to foster care if they didn't pay up Michelle Franzen A._B._C. News coming up a jogger chases down a flasher when on world news this week continues technology is supposed to make your life easier right. Don't let your business be limited by the software. You haven't place whether you're looking to replace or just considering your options. CAPTERRA is here to help you re thousands Abril reviews on software options specific to your business needs at Capterra dot com slash world news with over eight hundred fifty thousand reviews of products from real software users. You'll discover everything you need to make a well informed decision an unsure of where to start go to capterra dot com slash world news and use the search or categories option to bind your exact needs check it out for free visit CAPTERRA DOT com slash world news to find the tools to make an informed software your decision for Your Business Capterra dot com slash world news capterra. That's C.. A. P. T. E. R. R. A. dot com slash world news capterra software selection simplified. She's six foot one and describes herself as pretty fit and not a very good victim to go. After a flasher learned that lesson the hard way when he targeted I- Polanski as she was jogging through her neighborhood and Cambridge Massachusetts Polanski spoke out Wednesday after police released evidence of the crime reports A._B._C.'s Kaley Hartson. It's probably not the reaction he expected. When thirty-three-year-old Isaiah confronts an alleged flasher on a morning run outside of Boston I saw a guy pulling up his fence down? I did not put put a lot of thought to it but when the guy ran towards me and flash to spence one more time all the way down to he knees and Richard Handout. I realized that this is not just an emergency and he is a flasher. This mother of two did not miss. It's a beat before jumping into action. She turns around and runs after the man who she says also reached out and tried to grab her. I was probably one or two women running there. He just thought Oh that's will be her bed. Lock not the right choice choice this former member of the Israeli army tackling the man holding both of his hands behind his back while asking bystanders to call police was asking people to call the police and ask for help. Nobody did I let my hand offer him because they realize that nobody can help me out other than myself then as she grabbed her phone to call nine one one herself the man broke loose and ran off Massachusetts state police posting a portion of the video of the incident on their youtube page hoping to identify the alleged flasher did for her. I think she put the fear of God and the Guy Not only does Ioana man brought to justice but she also wants to send him a message. I told him I'm going to get him so I'm GonNa get you darling and those are the people and events that made world world news this week World News. This week was written and produced by Chris how I'm Chuck Sivertsen A._B._C. News New York win breaking news changes the World A._B._C. News accurate credible and unmatched on.

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278: Undocumented and LGBTQ (Part 5)

Latino Rebels Radio

54:21 min | 1 year ago

278: Undocumented and LGBTQ (Part 5)

"Hey guys love Latino rebels radio and if you are a fan of the show you know that once in a while we feature the work of the Latino media collective and so this week we're featuring the work of about you know media collective on Latino Radio Joy It took and yeah and Yeah Doc. Take It did and breath readings readings readings. And you've only had this time in Washington all points beyond this is Oscar Fernandes and you're listening to the Latino medical record that the studios are WPF w eighty nine point three three FM Washington DC. To- Columbia here on this Friday October. Fourth two thousand nine hundred eighteen also heard on the Internet on own website. which is Latino media collective DOT COM? You also find us on twitter under the name at Elham see underscores show that his at LLC underscores show and of course live on the ups W FM that orgy that's WPF W FM DOT ORG once again. This is Oscar Fernandes Today on the show. We continue our special series on the undocumented and LGBTQ experience the marginalized group within the marginalized group the caravan within the caravan. This time we take a look on the documented. LGBTQ experience as it pertains to health and how the US government as far back as nineteen nineteen eighty s at the dawn of the AIDS epidemic prevented immigrants from entering the country under the guise of public health concerns and quote unquote national security already. And so with us on the show. Today is Kenyan Farrell. He's a senior editor for the body. Dot Com and the body pro which are both HIV AIDS resorts sites. He has an August article entitled using issue. Justify immigration. Bands is a new. Here's the thirty five year history and this was written ridden by Giuliani Albany. Enga as well and Kenyon Farrow joins us in studio today. Welcome to the show. Kenyon Farrow argue very much. Ask Very glad to be here is good to have you with I. We've covered the issue immigration this past summer. which has been very difficult summer as it pertains to you know the conditions that immigrants are in right now in detention and how it amounts of concentration camps? We've seen PROPUBLICA exposed as secret facebook chat of racism and xenophobia by immigration authorities. We've seen how corporate media has exploited the tragic death of Oscar in Bolivia Martinez and infamous photo being shown about we've even talked about the connection between immigration and global warming. But we haven't really covered board that of the issue public health and HIV AIDS to the undocumented Lgbtq community and doing this undocumented documented and LGBTQ experience shows almost every guest. We've had as has mentioned the issue of AIDS HIV or or public health in general. And so so this is something that we want to talk to you about because this is something this is something that I feel when grossly under the radar this past summer particularly that of the a statement of the CPAP chief of law enforcement operations regarding HIV and AIDS as it pertains immigrants. I wonder if you could point this out because again this is when grossly under the radar the summer sure. Yes so This happened in late July so As you mentioned Brian Hastings. WHO's the chief of law enforcement and operations with most of the US Customs and Border Patrol in a testimony in front of Congress when asked about whether the administration was intentionally separating operating children and parents they ask specifically about You know parents who were people who are? HIV positive and words were they intentionally actually separating children from from their parents living with HIV and his response was well. I would separate A person who has RV from their child because HIV is a communicable disease now HIV is a communicable disease But it is sexually asleep. Transmitted is transmitted through. Blood is not transmitted by touching it. It's not transmitted by saliva is transmitted by coughing. Or you know you know which in cases like tuberculosis is so there's no public health threat to a child Just by virtue of being carried by their parents and there would be no the reason for that but that was part of the justification and just kind of goes to show just as the level of kind of willful ignorance of the administration not just about HIV. But also the things that they'll use strategically to justify their policies. That's perfect right there willful ignorance. Because we've known about disease at least for the last thirty five years and it just seems seems like it's back to the future turn back. The clock forgotten understanding HIV AIDS in Layman's terms. It's a real head scratcher to me. Would that said though. The trump administration did not invent the latest series of discriminatory practices against people with HIV and AIDS. So in your article in the body Dot Com. Can you tell us about the challenges faced by Haitian immigrants back in the early eighties at the dawn of the AIDS epidemic. PEDANTIC 'cause we know about it as it pertains to here in the US but regards to Haitian immigrants that's something that's not as well. No sure so We discovered HIV. It was initially reported in June of one thousand nine hundred one as a gay cancer. Right which would speaks. Do a level of like discrimination and Homophobia in the government like what is the gay cancer or gain pneumonia but that was sort of the original way it was being talked about and report eh but once it was discovered it was probably an infectious disease and initially was thought of as Gay Related Immune Deficiency Syndrome drome Before we got to HIV Human Immunodeficiency Syndrome We are human immunodeficiency virus The administration the Reagan administration in one thousand nine hundred eighty two so about a year later after the first discovery of HIV in the United States notice noticed that patients who were trying to enter the US who are taking boats in the Caribbean to try to reach Florida to seek asylum from the political situation in Haiti. which if you know history the the American government as you know a lot to do with particularly at that particular point But the policy of the administration was to turn people away the Haitians that they turn away they were letting some Cubans particularly white right Cubans into the country but Viewer from Haiti You were not allowed so They noticed in one thousand nine hundred eighty two that there were some Haitians who were in fact With what we would now say who are you know had aids or who were HIV positive and the administration at that point ain't in starting to craft it's kind of public health messaging kind of labeled hastens specifically as a kind of cause of HIV and That sort of began to fuel the the I sorta statutes or policies around immigration and HIV. We're actually targeted in Haitians to keep patients out of the country And I should say to that The policy to keep patients out of the country actually went back under the Carter administration before Reagan and the Reagan administration. Just sort of kept it up and you know because of the AIDS crisis Sort of donning awning of it had a reason to use HIV to also then Say Wall Haitians are also bringing into this country and so they need to be kept out as well. Exactly one of the staff members here on W. P. of w is of Haitian descent and I told him ahead of time that we were GonNa have this issue and and he wanted to point out that it wasn't just asylum that LGBTQ Haitians were were coming to the US for but to escape murder. He said capital so am D. R. murder during this time on top of the other social political issues that you mentioned already with of course like many cases. US support on top of what you just mentioned right now. What were the four ages during this time in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s as it pertained to Haitian immigrants here? Sure so just after the Kind of initial bans on on Haitians entering the country with HIV. The government's initial sort of Public Caliph Messaging About the AIDS crisis was to tell people that you know if you're one of the four H.. Is then you have to worry about HIV. So the four ages were homosexuals haemophiliacs heroin addicts and And hastens and that was was the original way that the epidemic was framed and and literally was rolled out as part of the you know sort of strategy to sort of communicate about HIV The two Americans from a public health officials And obviously Kind of even to this day. I mean it's sort of set up a dynamic to which people first of all assume that if they were not in any of those four categories that they had no risk and as we know now certainly it is a sexually transmitted. Ah infection more than anything And certainly through you know sharing needles but that became the framework. And so you know it was a way to sort word of tell Particularly you know white middle class Americans and if you're none of these things you don't have to worry about. This is a disease of those people and and frankly the only people who really got any sort of sympathy at that time Warren fact hemophiliacs and in fact our biggest sort of HIV sort of you know Policy Win that came out of the late eighties early nineties. The Ryan White Care Act which is a pot of money that provides you know. HIV CARE IT provides money for HIV treatment in Drugs for people with called Ryan White after a young white HEMOPHILIAC. Feel yet right so if you think of all the bows of other people who died of AIDS that we had to sort of use a young white HAEMOPHILIAC as a kind of innocent in order to get a bill passed asked to serve what was disease even at that point that was mostly black and Brown and Queer and Trans People. Yeah you sort of took the words right down. I was GONNA mentioned right Ryan White at a certain point during this conversation because it is sort of a I Dunno right word like a double edged sword with the Ryan White Case. Because you're right it it did help Bring some degree of better awareness and understanding and resources and treatment for HIV AIDS during that time. But again like you said unfortunately a lot of black and Brown people hundred thousand die before we got to this point point with the Ryan wikileaks. Unfortunately and unfortunately we're going to mention Ronald Reagan. Lot In this case. Because you know I don't think the younger your generation right now understands. Just how callous and inhumane the Reagan administration especially Reagan himself. What's at the dawn of the the AIDS epidemic? And how little he cared. He took him like five or seven years. Correct me if I'm wrong from even mentioned the word as or to make any sort of definitive statements any kind of statement regarding HIV AIDS that time oh absolutely so. You know the thing with Ronald Reagan. I mean if you listen to television now especially we're gearing up for presidential election and you know for the last twenty years the Republican Party and even a lot the Democrats frankly. We'll talk about Ronald Reagan as sort of compassionate conservatism. And that you know if the Republican Party could just returned earn to the values of Ronald Reagan. Then you'd have a much more diverse party a party. That was more kind of welcoming to arrange arrange different people than the White Nationalist Party has become But what is honestly true about Ronald Reagan. Is that actually. Reagan became president precisely because because of his cruelty and meanness to Black and Brown people to the LGBT community And and was seen really as the kind of answer to the winds that a lot of social justice movements have made in the nineteen sixties and Seventies. So he was seen as the counter to The Civil Rights Movement Black Liberation Movement to the American Indian Movement to the feminist movement to the gay and Lesbian Movement. I mean those those movements And and frankly the welfare rights movement because a lot of people don't know the what we got during the Clinton administration in the Mid Nineties Welfare Reform Act. was actually something Ronald Donald. Reagan was trying to pass in one thousand nine hundred seventy as governor of California so the welfare reform was based on that model of trying to make people work for well work for their welfare benefits of Ronald. Reagan was the architect of that. So this idea of Reagan as this kind of centrist Republican. You know figure doesn't really bear out and in fact you're right in terms of the AIDS epidemic that it took until I think about nineteen eighty-six before Reagan even said the word you know AIDS on television or HIV or any public remarks and that was only done because the actor rock Hudson who was a friend of the Reagans apparently went to the White House Before four he died and said to them to Ronald and Nancy that I'm dying of AIDS I'm gay and You had better say something about it and and do something and so. That was the only reason that Reagan Even began to mention the word AIDS and then of course by nineteen eighty-seven the next year the year. The you know. AS COALITION TO UNLEASH POWER ACT UP IS SORT of formed initially in New York and spread globally and becomes the the kind of main sort of organizational configuration. I've really begins to push the administration Both Reagan later Bush and Clinton administrations to actually Really respond to the epidemic. Yeah Compassionate Conservative. He was barely compassionate to rock. That's right that I remember I WANNA ask you in your Argo. Who is Gaetan Dugas? 'cause I this is one articles where the read it two or three times because I it had almost doubled sakers even now. It seems kind of unbelievable to believe that this is something that people believed in or something something like this was even presented as fact but this is an interesting story this also pertains to the mission Haitian immigrants that we mentioned but also to the issue of HIV AIDS that. I hope you strain out for me this this I guess you could say urban legend now of Gaetan Dugas who was sure so so Gaetan dugas or probably do guy. He was a French Canadian media. Gay Man who was a flight attendant who Obviously a flight attendant traveled to a lot of different cities and Who died of AIDS? I believe leaving Nineteen eighty-four but the there became the sort of working theory First of all that There was a kind of a theory the vet you know the HIV was brought into the US via Haiti. First of all so that was part of the sort of connection that not just that they were Haitians who happen to be eight to be positive but that actually the original route through which you know. HIV got into. The United States was from Haiti of which has never been proven. But AH also that You know do guess wise. What was called patient zero so the person who actually brought what age? Iv into the United States and people fought there because You know he assumed him to be promiscuous or what have have you that While he must've being a French-canadian you know having you know flown flights to Puerto Princesa to other parts of Haiti Contracted HIV in Haiti brought into the United States and and sleeping with other gay men in the United States is how HIV spread to. ooh Game in in the United States. I so and that theory Became very much kind of rooted in the American mythology about had HIV. Through a book. I call and the band played on which was I think published in nineteen eighty seven and then a film about bouts called the Bam play on also which you can still watch which is is a film version of the of the book which which also uses uses the very same narrative that Dugong was patient zero. And it's the film is in the book is about kind of like how the CDC was trying to figure out what was happening. And and where this this new infection was coming from a whatever and so they have an actor in the film play him and and the whole deal and only a probably last five five years. I think that through now different sort of technology were ebbing able to prove that this man did not bring dvd. Not Patient Zero. That's a miss Do not bring into the United States but if we think about the sort of four H.. Is it helps cement in the American imagination the connection action between you know the Haiti and homosexuals portion of the four ages As a particular vectors of love of disease. The film and the band played on. I don't think people realize how friendly over advertise film was when does she came out H. B. O. pleaded ad nauseam on on their channel. Back back in the nineties and it's also infuriating because knowing what we know oh now and even back. Then it's based on the premise of homophobia and transphobia going back to four inches. That you just mentioned right. Yeah people never. There were people who refuted that theory at the time but they were not listen to people who refuted the theory about you know. Hey says at the time A lot particularly a lot of Black Black American activists You know were responding to an Haitians in the United States responding to What people felt rightly? Were you know kind of racist and and homophobic theories of of of the disease. So can you give us details on the Reagan administration's pressure on the US public health service to add HIV to exclude excludable health conditions. 'CAUSE I even now. I think we're just scratching the surface to the the lack of humidity in the Reagan administration record h HIV and the tier. Sure so because of the you know kind of growing epidemic United States The fears about you know Haiti that had been established. You know about HIV since nineteen eighty two and And then the the book and the band played on comes out in nineteen eighty seven and this is at the time where just a year prior nine hundred ninety. Six rock cuts in sort of makes Reagan start to talk about the epidemic. But one of the things that Ronald Reagan does is his sort of way to respond to the epidemic is to The pressure the US public health service to add HIV to a list of excludable health conditions. Right and despite there are a lot of Protests about that so the US Public Health Service Is You know able to you know to sort of do that. They will list. You know excludable health conditions for people entering the country To Burke Yellow says is one for instance You know Ebola's when people remember you know kind of out year. SARS bird flu all the all these things that you see sort of news that you know when you hear these stories about off Oh you know. Their travel bans on coming from certain countries. You've traveled to these countries in the last twenty one days. He's still see those towns in the airport. If if you're flying internationally they'll sometimes even if I go to my doctor like they'll they'll ask. Have you been to you know country you know in you. Know what are you been out of the country in the last twenty one days right. They're still trying to figure out if you like. Maybe having Bola right I mean this is this still happens so so Ronald Reagan added. HIV veto the list of excludable Conditions health conditions to prevent people with HIV from traveling in the United States Now people advocates and actors have been trying to get that removed After Reagan left office By the time that we got got to nine hundred ninety when George George H W Bush was in office we're senior and and he ultimately Signed it into law to remove HIV from listed excludable conditions. But actually Congress overrode it and put it back in and and it lasted For for many years so but that was sort of how we ended up getting you know. HIV kind of into listened to suitable conditions. And then Bill Clinton comes along and kind of more problems to the US so much more problems and let me just say right now since you're Senate to repeat again even now there's still stigma of immigrants not just LGBTQ organs but immigrants in general bringing diseases. You have people such as Lou adopt still on TV. Who who would push this idea? That immigrants were bringing liberty and among these other ridiculous cases. have no proof whatsoever. We're getting a break right here. We're speaking with Kenyon Farrow. He's a senior editor for the body DOT COM and the body pro. This is a Latino media. Collective GonNa take a quick break right here back with more than a minute. Stay tune is valley so we got that went on low though you memorial. Royal will ooh uh-huh Yeah Yeah uh It does The title. You're listening to Latino media collective yawn. WPF W eighty nine point three FM Washington. Reminding everyone. Did you also check us out on our website. Aside which is Latino medical active dot Com. You also follow us on twitter. An name at LLC underscores showed that is at l. m. c. underscores show and of course is live on. WPF W eighty nine point three FM Washington. Once again this is Oscar Fernandez and this is part five of the undocumented and LGBTQ abused series. He owned a Latino collective. Were joined today by Kenyan Farrell. WHO's a senior editor for the body DOT COM and the body pro as well? Oh so Kenyan. Let's go now into the ninety S as we continue to struggle for HIV and AIDS and AIDS writes research education. All these things. How would you going into those? How would you describe the battle for immigrant rights as pertains taste during the night because there was some progress being made? But you'll sort of at a snail's pace to say the least so in one thousand nine hundred I mean one of the Things that happen that you mentioned earlier segment was the Ryan White Care Act passed and I. I think that it is important to talk about it in terms terms of The it's kind of relationship to immigrants because they actually became a way for immigrants to actually get access to HIV care in the United Estates. So in that sense. That was a sort of a good thing at the same time. There was still these struggles around immigration policy in terms of people with HIV who were immigrants being able to enter the country so The fight that was happening through the you know Bush senior administration about whether HIV would be added to the list of excludable health conditions again Initially Bush had removed HIV and and really. They removed everything but Turkey losses All the other conditions that were in the list as well at the time. But then Congress put those things back in a lot of activists for that and Bill Clinton had promised during during his presidential campaigns. This would have been nineteen ninety-two the end of Bush's campaign before Clinton was elected And then inaugurated in ninety three three that he was going to Take these You know take these out. But he ultimately Signed the bill which left You know HIV in as a excludable condition So this happened at the same time that there were two hundred a Haitian in Guantanamo Bay who were living with HIV In nineteen ninety three. So part of what they were doing was quarantining them in Guantanamo Bay. They were trying to you know. Come through You know come to Florida on on grass a range of other things that were happening happening at the time. And in fact so Jesse Jackson You know who had run for president twice at that point or whatever. It was The more active as a political active in the United States as the hunger strike against the Clinton administration in order to get them to release The Haitian immigrants who are being detained by the United States Guantanamo Bay for no other reason they were living native. I'm glad that you mentioned that because I don't want to get off track here but is very important side note to mention why were Haitian immigrants in turned in one tunnel Bayon. AM decided to begin with and this is because of another US overthrow of a of a president. In in eighty signed a democratically elected Haitian president uh of John Bertrand Aristide and not too many people know this but the detainment of patients during this period time is sort of the blueprint for the today aged the detention of migrants today on the US Mexico border now people realize it but it should be noted because it also includes Lgbtq immigrants as well so that brings us to move forward into the nickels amendment. What was the nickels amendment yet? So Nichols amendment. Was that bill that passed that ended up Cementing into law so went from just being kind of a policy to being. Do you know that the Reagan administration held but then became law that excluded that add. HIV You know legally to the list of exclusions got communicable diseases. That people could be you know Banned from entering the the people could be banned from entering the United States You know for and that bill basically lasted until the Obama administration with some tweaks start to happen when George W W Bush was in office but but basically became the way. US policy for HIV Happened for many years and and so you know so to that extent there for almost twenty years I think for nineteen years the international as conference which is a conference. That happens every two two years. I'm on the even years and it goes from different cities around the world There have been an international as Congress in the United States. I believe in San Francisco in the late eighties but or maybe early nineties but basically after the amendment passed it wasn't until two thousand twelve when the next International AIDS Conference would be held the United States. Because I was after the you know the ban was lifted ultimately so let you said before there had been some progress obedient albeit at a snail's pace going up to two thousand nine nonetheless though what damage had been done by this point for the LGBTQ immigrant community not by this point because you know a lot of lives could have been saved had had things been better at least from the immigrant. Point of view. better explained as far as you know diseases cancer. Sure so I think one of the things that have been done doing the damage wise. was you know it. Just it prevented It created a situation where so they were immigrants if you were already in the United States and living with with HIV. It made it much more difficult for people to actually either want to get tested for HIV. Or one come out about their status. Whether or not they would have been deported or anything but just knowing that statute was there a kept a lot of people kind of under the radar not being able to seek treatment and care or even just to get an HIV test Particularly if they were undocumented right so I think it kind of had a chilling effect Into the work that you know the people could do in terms of education prevention and treatment for people who are immigrants in the United States for for many years. But then I think you know I mean just as some of the you know the impact I think of the band so first of all in the time sense You know in two thousand from basically two thousand thousand three until the present day have been about seventeen people that we know that have died in an ice custody You know who are HIV positive positive and so oftentimes you know is in many ways mirrors. What happens in the? US prison system. It really depends on where you you are and who decides whether to you get tested for HIV whether not to have access to the treatment even if you disclose and we have documented cases of people who were in and ice attention who disclosed that they were living with HIV and needed access to medication and just weren't given it and who died Unnecessarily of as while they were in custody custody and so I think you know that is one of the you know kind of standing You know implications of what you know what what the band and the sort of politics around HIV and immigration have meant in the United States the most notable case that we've covered here and many other LGBTQ LGBTQ guests that we've had on the show is that of of Roxanne Hernandez who who died in ice custody due to lack of medical care not necessarily of the disease per se but mainly because of lack of medical care and this brings us now to the present point in time and we haven't mentioned the trump administration but before we do we should point out the irony of the trump administration even trump the individuals is anti LGBTQ Hugh statements and Palsy actions. The irony of him doing that considering that his mentor Roy. Cohn was a closeted gay man who died died of AIDS and didn't disclose until after fact who was also I remember. Now the the attorney for the owners of studio fifty four back in the late seventies as as well and you know it's just leaves people scratching their heads if they know their history and their background to the issues that we mentioned here but I WANNA go back to rock center Nana's because we have to make something very clear under current federal immigration law should LGBTQ d.`you immigrants received medical treatment under organizations like is when they disclose it. They have such diseases so absolutely people. should should receive treatment First and foremost I think still people know we've come a very very long way in terms of HIV treatment and care in the United States. So you know we had our first you know you know anti retroviral medications or or people may remember in the mid nineties when the when it was the cocktail of drugs. That was like the you know the the the language but it was the idea that you could take several different in concert medications that would suppress the virus in your body and so we went from you know. I getting those medications on the market in the mid nineties and sometimes sometimes those pills at the time were you know handfuls appeal. Sometimes they had really rough side effects that you had to take different times you can take a food some you to take on and be stomach etc.. We've come from there to now. In most cases most people with HIV are taking one pill a day in most places around the world. Ah So treatment has gotten that good and also if people Take Treatment and get what we call. Violently suppressed are undetectable undetectable. They cannot transmit the virus they cannot transmit the virus that they have sex without a condom if they are violently suppressed. This is known studies have been done so this is just to say like the how violet is to then You know first of all detained people often for very little. You know any any reason You know of event them not having whatever kind of paper supposedly to Knowing how good treatment is and how is keeping people alive and in keeping people healthy without any of the kind of health concerns if they're living with HIV and a lot of cases what it means that the people that medication once they're in treatment to the extent that then they they die. I it's it's that much more cruel given how good treatment I mean is if you think about that way I wanna take this moment to remind everyone that Kenyon Farrow Roldan Argo article for the body dot com entitled using HIV to justify immigration. Bans is in new. Here's the thirty five year history and this was co written by Giuliani. Alvarenga are bring this up because says I really enjoy the work that you've done on the body dot com not just you but other people who are on there and it's a very important resource to have have writers such as self to document this because it should be pointed out here at this moment in time that many people who were there at the dawn of the AIDS typically thirty five years ago are not with us anymore some have come and gone and a lot of important storytellers. Who whose work? And whose foist may not have been as well documented. Now you know May as well not have been documented back then as it is now are not here with us right now and one of those that you mentioned in another article a separate article that you did or did is here. Was the case of Andy Velez so for those people may not know who is and developers or who was so analyze Puerto Rican activists Gay Men in New York City who was active Enact up Pretty much from its early inception in the eighties. And I mean just went on to do an amazing amount. aww Of work in New York City. I always said in the article that I wrote when Andy died a few months ago. Was that I in my you know. Twenty years essentially living in New York City and You know participating in a range of different actions and not just HIV ones around housing around harm reduction around LGBT youth. Around you know. Mass incarceration and police brutality. I cannot remember a rally or an action and that I ever attended any villas was not present and so it just speaks to his commitment to social justice issues for people and Andy also mentored a lot of young activists to And I think and so we just lost Andy and actually there's about to be on this Friday a memorial in New York City The community memorial forever for Andy's passing. I'm coming up which I'm really said about him. You know need made films and shot a lot of like an incredible amount of photography. From the you know years of living in New York City and You know of the peers and the West village culture for a long time so he did a lot of interesting work in addition into You know his his work as a as a organizer and activist is sorely missed in New York City for certain. Yeah and I mentioned his name because you know whenever someone like that passes on is just an IT's It's another page loss in this very important in history for the Lgbtq community especially for those in that generation at the dawn of the AIDS epidemic. I'm not saying this because you're here and this may be speculation on my part but who knows how many lives could have been saved if there were organizations like the buy Dot Com who are raising awareness. You know in and much will the way you're doing right now you know. Would that said you know. Spaghetti raising awareness. Since you're here live in studio with us here in Washington DC. It's worth noting. What brings you to Washington DC this this week? Sure so I'm here actually To cover a conference on caller. Id Weekend ID I D- stay in this case stands for infectious disease we so it's an annual conference of the Infectious Disease Society of America which are an consensually an association of a medical doctors who do infectious disease working so folks who arranged things not just HIV but of Sei's and other You know just an infectious disease conditions to Berkeley Hills etc So and it's usually a few thousand people with a pretty big conference doctors and it's one of the conferences services that we cover our site. The body DOT COM is more Lay Person Community. You know site for news and information about HIV of health harm reduction. We're doing a lot of stuff about the OPIOID crisis. As well we covered a around. You know every range of different communities in the United States but our site. The body pro is kind of geared more pro released for professionals People who work in the HIV feels so there we cover a lot of the HIV sort of research news and go to conferences like this and cover some of the you know kind of latest news and things that are happening within the conference self. If even if you're not a you know a person who works in HIV. But you're kind of a kind of science in Public Health Geek or WANNA know about healthcare. Oh Care it's also great resource because you'll learn a lot on the body pro about You know kind of what's happening. It's face of research and and a place like idea we. There are a lot of physicians who are also activists. I mean I last year when the conference in San Francisco Recall Melanie Thompson who's who's a an HIV dot from Atlanta Georgia and a few other ones really calling out the medical community That it's time to be activists and it's great to serve your patients but given the threats to the affordable care act given you know the threats to You Know Okay Immigrants and undocumented folks in this country to you know police brutality and black means a range of things that this is the time that physicians actually have to do more than just you know. see patients right and so it's a conference where also that kind of spirit of activism from physicians providers also lives. Well you know what truth be told we should all be health geeks especially as it pertains it HIV AIDS. Because I'm old enough to remember you. I know when the AIDS epidemic started may have been six years old but I still remember you know the fear in here in Washington D.. These at the very least and even though we've said that there's been something investment a lot of advancement of regardless of how mistaken how it's how it's research how it's funded. The fear of HIV AIDS should not go away no matter which generation we're talking about because it's still a very deadly disease and on top of that it's more deadlier when there's willful. Ignorance by the government where the government or any other government for that matter. So Oh we're almost out of time. We have about five minutes left so it's still an ongoing problem for the undocumented. LGBTQ community regards to Social Social Social Justice here even now. Immigrants are being blamed for the new outbreak of measles here in the US. You know it's more you know. There are people in corporate media saying this has more to do with immigrants as opposed to the ignorance towards vaccination you know right it's the last few years You know I've been following unfortunately You know Breitbart Dot com and some of the kind of right wing websites and even in the Obama Administration. They they were talking about you. Know immigrants coming into this country spreading diseases burkey. Laos's they talked about a lot. Arrange things so there was already an infrastructure for understanding. What we what we now see in terms of now having a president you bet is detaining people separating families etc the border but the groups that supported trump's kind of rise as has a figure and then getting into office already promoting this idea of You know immigration as like a a way in which you know kind of you know diseases will come into the United States whenever so Yet that has been been very active in terms of a lot of quote unquote outright or white national kind of like Rhetoric game and unfortunately it shows no insight and it's just speaks volumes to you the willful ignorance of medical science under the guise under the dark shadow of racism xenophobia homophobia and Transphobia and so this is why outlets such as the buy dot com and the body pro are so important even now today and tomorrow regard understanding the public health. So with that said we've been speaking with Kenyon Farrow. He's a senior editor for the body. Dot Com and the body pro his August articles entitled using using HIV to justify immigration bands isn't new. Here's the thirty five year history. It's co written by Giuliani Alvarenga. And we're going to post this on our twitter account as well so Kenyan feral thank you very much for being on the show with us. Thank you so much for having me and with that said that is it for today's show. We WanNA remind everyone. Did you could check out the episode in our previous episodes on site. which is Latino media collective DOT COM? Go also follow us on twitter. The name at L.. AMC underscores show and and of course live on WBZ FW FM that orgy that's WBZ FW FM. Dot Org so on behalf. My Co producer abby. Roberts this is Oscar Fernandes saying thank you very much. Everyone for listening to this show. That's it for today's show at us. Those rebels Chow uh-huh the Yeah the yeah yeah

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The Grid 027 ft. Ben Johnson pocket-sevens

"Data affiliated hit me. Welcome to the grade. I'm your host Jennifer Shoddy and we'll be taking thirteen thirteen episode journey through every every possible no limit holdem and 169 hands in total from aces to seven days officer each episode interview. Another top poker player personality -ality about their hand WANNA combos taken. It's gone so this podcast will become progressively more difficult as hands like ace. King are moved from the head head whether you spend hours poring over grids as you study poker loved. Listen the had history pause while branding cash or just interested in absurd scavenger hunts. We're GONNA the has some cards dealer of hit me. They see me. See Me Awesome data. Hello everyone and welcome back after the grid. I have a very special guest today. Somebody who I've been friends with for a very long time from back in the day of Middle School Chess Tournaments light in my billy studio. It's a Ben Johnson of the perpetual podcast podcast. Actually that's in. Its third year and interviews top test personalities. The top players in the World Ben is also a national master many time member of the National Championship Chess Team Masterman and a practicing coach. But what some people. We'll have forgotten about ben is that he was also a very successful professional poker player for seven years and thus he comes in the grade that disgust a hand for two thousand six six at the third season of the European poker tour in Baden Austria. It was a five thousand euro event with over three hundred players and he brings us a hand when when he was all the way to heads up. Then welcome to the show. Thanks turn. I'm a big Fan of the grid and I'm excited to talk about this hand that I played terribly thirteen years ago. Well how you're you're not the first. I want to talk about a terrible hand. In fact lex Bell House was my very first guest. Also talked about I heard I've heard all the interviews. I heard the one with LEX. I played with him. Many moons ago. Yeah it was nice to hear humility from someone who's done so well for himself and I think that is actually a trend. It doesn't always match but I think the the better the player the the more likely they were to give me a hand. They'd terribly oh so. In that case I'm a great player. I played this pretty badly. So let's hear it. Set it up for us. Where were you in terms of your poker career? You're how long have you been playing. And how did you end up in this fight. Gay Euro Event in Austria. Okay so this is two thousand six. I was a fulltime poker pro from two thousand and four to two thousand eleven. Of course your brother. Greg is one of my oldest friends and best friends and he's been on your show he and a couple of other chess players. I all sort sort of came up together and became poker pros together kind of pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps. But by this by this time I was already pretty successful professional. I played a lot of tournaments. I came in thirtieth in the main event or third around thirtieth one year before I had any clue what I was doing gradually got better. I was I played a lot of Shoutout to are some of your other guests I'm a dinosaur. So I played a lot of mid to high stakes limit. Holdem online did pretty well with that had some tournament results and basically in terms of MTTI's he's they weren't my primary focus. But I would try to play about five year especially if I could satellite online otherwise I would just play the main event and I'd like to go to L. A.'s play poker classic but I liked living in New York and I wasn't like a fulltime tournament person but I want any PT Botmc on poker stars and I manage to hoodwink our mutual friend. Yakov Hirsch into coming with me to Austria so we went and we played the tournament and Lo and behold I had the best result of my life so oh and it was a tough tournament. There were a lot of strong players. Lot of sort of well known players like L. Key Bertran Gospel anti-black and Italian Kid Barrio Areso Minneapolis. Who went to the final table? Lot of tough players. It was a tough field that I went through and then I got two heads up and it was against not the toughest player in the field. Nice guy but not a professional and I think I don't want to bury the lead but I think I might have relaxed a little too much with that rambling intro. Out of the way the actual hand was I had pocket. Seven's the small blind it. This already locked up. Played a big score for yourself right. Yeah so I'm getting. At least I think I ended up. Spoiler alert came in second so I ended up getting and three hundred twenty thousand or something like that wire transfer in my bank account a few days later so that was pretty sweet. Yeah and I was about double that so that that was the situation relation in terms of chip count He had about one point nine million and I had about one point three million. We didn't have a ton of play. The blinds were about fifteen thousand in thirty thousand with a three thousand anti so. That was the situation and it was very early in the heads up match This hand and you are a little over. Forty bigs deep. Actually a jess played in interesting hand right before this handed. So you've got two pairs in a row. You had tens of previous hand and you actually made a big over bet on the turn so a sophisticated play. You were well ahead of well. I might have been ahead in some respects but overall when I when I watched the final table. I'm pretty leap proud of how I played the rest of the tournament but heads up. I didn't play well at all. I heard your interview with Matt Matrix where he was talking about Playing Brian Hastings and the NBC ABC Heads Up Championship and he was talking about how important it is because to work on your heads up game and that definitely resonated with me. I mean I had one other second place finish in Lake preliminary tournament at the Poker Classic. I was prior to that but other than that I mean I had some influence six figures scores but only a couple no final tables and because cash games were more of my emphasis. I didn't really put in the work that I should have in two heads up and thus I am not op. Proud of Corey played the sand. Okay so you're you got sevens or in the small blind your little over forty of eggs deep and you're you mentioned earlier that you felt you relaxed a little bit because because you're in this great situation in you're not against one of the top professional you know I would call him a solid casual player. Basically my overall impression of him was he's he's GonNa play fairly straightforward. He had amassed the chip lead. He flopped nuts three times at the final table so it was just one of those things where he he had some favorable situations and my basic impression was I can pro him a little bit and try to take tips from him so that was sort of my game plan but I didn't really have time to step back and and Lada on a more granular level. So I in the hand you mentioned prior I had pocket tens and limp because I was just trying to see flops and same thing with the pockets get sevens I limp and then he raises and already. I didn't have the hand mapped out in my head and now I'm thinking well. This was my thinking at the time so so again blinds or fifteen thousand thirty thousand I complete to thirty thousand. He makes it a little over. I think he made it a one hundred thirty straight. And now I felt like my hand would be to under wrapped if I just call with sevens and shoving just seems egregious especially because if I ever get called. I'm in terrible shape and I think I have a skill edge over this guy so at this point I re- raised all save the editorializing for later but basically I didn't expect a call in that spot for from him he was is going to be out of position and didn't feel is going to be trying to see a ton of flops out of position so I felt like he would either shove fold and given the way he played I was comfortable taking a tight fold if he shoved but of course he calls so onto the flop. We go so at branch of the tree you had anticipated. You're expecting this hand to somehow PREF- up. Yeah I was expecting it to end pre flop and of course there's a lot I would change but anyway let's let's talk about the hand that and then not live through my regrets so we go to the flop and the flop. Is Jack Five six rainbow. He now checks to me and I believe I had about nine hundred thousand thousand behind and of course he covers reasonably comfortably again. I mean it's a pretty good flop for my hand but I'm already not feeling great about the situation Shen I'm thinking. What kind of hand is he going to Raise my limp and then call with and it's a fairly strong range. Basically King Queen possibly pocket pairs in my neighborhood. Ace Jack stuff like that is not a great spot but I do feel like I can get the information I need so I bet about a third of pot I think I bet about Three fifty ish and he pretty quickly shoved so this is just gross. I've put like sixty percent of my chips. Send and now. I don't think ahead in the hand but on the other hand Puckett Sevens on a Jack five six rainbow flop the it's in the upper echelon of flops. I could hope for in that that situation so there I was and you thought for quite a bit and you ended up making the fall. Yeah I tank folded. I mean my overarching read on on this player was just. He's not going to run a big bluff in this situation. I mean the only really Combo you could strain to give him that that I'm beating is he could have like seven eight suited. Did something like that and be pushing an open industry. Draw these days we would say I'm blocking seven eight suited. Those days blocking was like maybe a thing in pot limit Omaha but not but not in two thousand six and no limit holdem. That thought wouldn't have crossed my mind So I just felt like a you know I'm beat here. Basically always so the word blacker occurred in exists in that way in Nolan Holden parlance searching. It didn't occur to you that the fact that you had sevens made it less likely for him to have seven eight. Yeah I mean I would love to sit it here and tell you that it did but it. It really really didn't so that's interesting because it shows the importance of language and creating ideas because obviously you were a very highly correct poker player and because of your chest Brang background took the very studious approach to eight. But even you hadn't even thought of that concept right. Yeah I hadn't the concept I mean. Of course I thought specifically about seventy eight in that situation but it was more you know combining the probability of I. I didn't think you would raise my limp. Then even if he does raise my lamp. Didn't think you would call. And even if he did all that my read on him was he's not necessarily just going to shove like he might just check cau- aw with an open industry draw so put all those things together and the fact that I'm blocking the seven eight is like even if I had. If had even occurred to me it would still be like fourth on the list of reasons to discount seven possibility and I'm losing to olive his value hands and I didn't think he was ever straight up bluffing. When you're in these high intense situations it's like the list list of things that kind of come to you first priority is and that just was not there and so you you fold it and tell me a little bit about how you felt after the hand and reflecting on what you think you should have done better even in that time obviously not like right? I'm traveler two years later. Yeah well well it's funny. You should mention because then I watched the final table for the first time in over a decade preparing for this interview and I had been on camera here and there and poker but I hadn't pin like properly miked up on a final table and our Yaacov was there and he was like functioning as my coach cheerleader. Of course he's he's pretty Pretty Savvy with situations like this like he's good at reading people. He's good at giving advice. There's a moment where I go over to him and I'm like oh I just butchered this hand. Bloated the pop put sixty percent of my chips and and then folded so clearly I was not totally over it and in fact I put it off the rest of my stack later. We're with King three off so if you ever need king three off we lament me. Miss playing the biggest tournament even more. So that's where my head space was after that hand. Yeah I I saw that. I actually watched to the end. The it was very interesting kind of like historical time capsule in Poker and poker commentary as we Jones and James Harden and. We're both very active on the poker tour with James. Still the voice of European poker tour and how professional and polished Polish. He was even back then. They did a good job. That was one thing that production generally and re watching it I thought was pretty good especially James because he's not really doing with the strategy for. Shanna is kind of funny any of that. You look back fourteen years later and it seems like it's quite similar from his end right. You mentioned that after that you punt it off with the king three off and Yeah and it's like I again. I like limp. Shove this like what. What the hell was I doing? You know it's painful for me to watch just generally I was trying to see flops and when when the situation would arise is where it was getting more expensive to see flaps. I just didn't adjust properly. I should've just stuck with the plan of a need to see flops. If you call in you know these are the days of exploitive poker poker you know to the maximum so if I had limped called with pocket seven's is way better than limply raising. I mean. Of course I could have just raised in that hand and later I mean even and when I was short by the time I lived shoved the king three hand I was probably down to about twenty big blind so okay. There's not a lot of wiggle room. But I still felt like I could prob- The guy but in watching Ching it. It just felt like I ran out of gas. I didn't explicitly feel pressure. I didn't it wasn't a conscious thought that I was feeling pressure for the final table but I just played so much worse than I did the rest of the tournament. So That's interesting and I think the sevens hand if you look back on it. Do you feel like what was it that you think tilted you about that the hand was there a particular street that you think like was haunting you or was it just kind of like generalized sense that somehow you put your debt you definitely the latter because actually actually as I sit now and. I'm not a solver person. I have you know I'm like ninety percent out of the poker world at this point so I don't know what a solver would say In terms of how how to play it but when I started watching it the other day and thinking through this hand it wasn't obvious to me like it wasn't one hundred percent obvious like what I should have done. You know off so it was more just a general feeling of like the strategy of putting sixty percent of your chips and unfolding Probably wasn't optimal. I mean I see what you're saying like making the expletive plays in that Hanley made a lot of sense to you even many years later it did seem to me that your bed on the flap is a little big if your plan is sometimes fault because it was like it was closer to fifty percent. I think than thirty percent I mean I left a lot of my babies in the pot for shore. Disappointing that made it difficult from trump from that point forward and so it's interesting as like a chess player. The heads up would normally be like the best part of your game right now. We think as a the natural. Yeah heads player. I've one online tournaments and stuff and You know playing mid and high stakes limit HOLDEM. I played a lot of short handed. So Oh I regret never working on my heads up. No limit game I I have a sense for sort of the The dancing that goes on and heads up poker occur. Generally I mean the the sort of feeling each other out and probing people and stuff like that so that makes me even more disappointed with how I played. Well how so many years later still a little bit disappointed. And how do you. You're the one that dread stood up and I was just living my life with my wife and kids but would your life change if you had one this. Um I'm headed match It's pretty unlikely I had A. I had a healthy bankroll then. More money would have been nice. The only thing I can think of is I probably would have been a little bit more aggressive wrestle about playing tournaments then Specially EP tease If I had one that tournaments were never my my soul emphasis and I probably only and not because of bankroll reasons but I probably only played about ten to fifteen more big buying events in my Po- career after that night and I had some results to. I just got tired of traveling. And didn't you know the Joosten seem worth the squeeze to me but I suspect if I had had even more success. That might have been different. I I had a previous guests on my show. Peter Jackson says that a lot of really good talented poker players in games players are really hard on themselves. They make a mistake and they're not nice enough to themselves when they make bacon above the rim. Play as chess player we. I think we're very aware of that as well. Because it's so easy to blender and it's Kinda hard to go above the Raymond Assert incensing feels obvious after the back What's your perspective on that and do feel like maybe when you look back? You're guilty of that that same the psychological thing. Maybe I mean overall I when I got back to Brooklyn and sort of assessed I mean you know. I'm I was happy with second place you know. It's a lot of money it's hard to. It's hard to fixate too much on misplacing the hand so certainly I regretted it but it. You didn't animate me. It's not something. I spent a lot of time ruminating about in subsequent months and years so it was more like immediately after it tilted. You but it afterwards you were forgiving and like the bounty exactly you know I was GONNA lose a decent amount of chips that hand it just the setup in and heads up poker if you get pocket seven. The other person gets a stack if you go to a flop in the flops Jack. Five six like you're going to lose some chips so as you say I could have loss. Maybe twenty percent fewer twenty five percent fewer. But you know I was an online grinder. I'm just firing up. The computer playing mostly limit holdem and winning and losing in you know winning or losing thousands of dollars a day. You know sometimes five figures so it bothered me. But I didn't think about it too much. I felt like when I saw you play. You look like you're very focused and almost like a little angry a like but in a good way that you were like aggressive like generally like just more like get an aggressive like a you want to take this down you want to beat. The other guy is that kind of similar to how you play chess or did you feel like in poker. They aggression came Matt even more. I don't think that was that representative of my poker overall. I have to say in chess. I think I'm my best strength. I have not playing playing a lot of. I'm not playing much competitive chess at this point but I always felt like I punched a little above my weight based on sort of a competitive spirit. Not Giving up up and maybe some of the psychological aspects of chess. I felt like we're better than just sort of like raw tactics and knowledge and poker. I also think that was the case for me being focused and like you know ready to think at any moment yeah competitive for for sure. I mean I wasn't angry angry but I definitely like winning. Preferred winning to lose for sure interesting that you say that because I feel like that's true of lot of Young players they make up their lack of knowledge and fighting spirit energy at the board sits flash as we call that now that you're the host of the perpetual podcast and you even have this bonus shows on Greek books in Chasse. You're accumulating so much more knowledge. Are you feeling like a reversal at all like that. You know a lot about chassis and you're not always able to execute it well first of all that was a masterful plug. Thank you and second of all. Yeah I feel a lot different but I think mainly it's because I'm a parent it just changes your perspective about everything so I just don't have that killer instinct. I I wish I could play competitive chess. I Love I mean could of course I love competitive chess but I have have a wife and kids and my wife works full time and professional responsibilities so I don't get to play much chess and even poker now that I live in New Jersey once in a while I'll play some pot pot limit Omaha which these days is my preferred game on a poker stars New Jersey or sometimes I go to parks. I'm still a winning player. But definitely that fifth gear I feel like is what is harder for me to find. Now that I'm a parent and a poker hobbyist rather than professional you mean. It's just hard to care enough to like build up this killer instinct. Yeah exactly and in those marginal spots where you're like. His ranges capped her ranges capped. I should probably like you know. pull the trigger here when I'm not In it every day and I'm not like an it's basically blowing off steam from for me. It's harder to do the more difficult thing. Do the uncomfortable comfortable thing. And what about the challenge of being a parent cause a lot of people who grew up during the poker boom right now becoming parents or thinking of it or have small children the distance you have for money you know. You're not playing these big tournaments where you could like five hundred extra by an but if you were do you think that would be more difficult. Yeah the the money makes a difference to as I said I mean. I'm lucky that I have so much respect for people like trevor who are parents. Grinding cash games supporting a family. That just seems really hard to me. Even even for the super successful people it does seem hard. I mean I'm lucky in that you know any money I make AAC from. Poker is basically going to be supplementary income but I still do think about it a little bit more but it's hard for me to deconstruct to what extent it's based on being a parent versus just based on not being a professional. Because it used to be I was just in it all the time so I had the swings all the time whereas now it's just when you're playing once a week you have have a lot more perspective on what the thousand dollar bluff could buy as opposed to win. Your every hand is like that you know right not having a really as much of a segregated aided bankrupt yeah exactly that makes sense and going back to the hand no please. Don't I'm just kidding. Most the atmosphere like had an EP tea back in two thousand and six. I know that there are probably a lot more lot more partying than there is today because a lot of people are pretty serious about the poker and there's so many events yeah yeah if you go to an ap you can literally play all day. Every day I mean there seemed to be a decent amount of partying definitely a lot of young European on-line pros who were good players. I'm I'm definitely proud of getting through that field. I had good results in some some bigger fields and I felt like that one was the one was amongst the toughest competition even though in in terms of lake name recognition it wasn't the highest one thing I will say as I found the people there to be friendlier than generally did on the American circuit. I had my small circle goal of friends in the American circuit. And you know I knew. Some limit holdem grinders from from online. But I made some friends on that trip. We didn't stay friends but the people were very friendly and definitely willing to have a drink or two. You can say it's interesting that you say that 'cause I find the poker community that'd be pretty friendly today. Even though people talk what about the glory days and how much more fun it was and how much more friendly and partying it was. I actually think for somebody like you today might be more comfortable for you because everybody everybody loves and hurts right. Okay glad to hear it and yeah one thing I should mention in this. Is I think useful advice for any young pros. Listening is I'm I'm an introvert by by nature. Some have have called me a nerd. Maybe even in the last one minute and I just generally didn't network that much you know. I traveled to a lot of tournaments. La Vegas I even had a place in Vegas for a while. And I had my little circle of friends and I wasn't really trying to make friends and that I think when I ended up quitting poker a lot of it was just I didn't feel like I had enough of a network to sort of push through poker getting a little bit harder. That's some advice that when I started my chest podcast as I got back into the chess world years later I was able to sort of learn to push through my insecurity. And just do what you needed to do. And you know it's not necessarily a selfish motive it makes your life you know. Obviously having friends enriches one's life and having connections in riches enriches one's life generally but I think it might have made a difference in my poker career. If I had been a little more networked with the other travelling pros yes because people drop out a poker all the time. I think. That's what people don't realize that I also agree with you. In retrospect so clear so many people drought poker or stop playing live poker. At least that you might think that you have some friends but you know people will will drop out at alarming rate so like widening your network always very valuable. Yeah and I would have played a lot lot more live MT TS. But I couldn't get my friends to go and it just wasn't that fun To go on my own because I didn't know that many people and I know I wasn't the only Poker pro overhead the situation. Obviously your brother and my friend Greg. He's an introvert by nature too but was very active posting on two plus two and because of that knows a lot of these. Og Legend adjourns David benefit and failed Gal than all those people whereas I wasn't really inactive poster Even though Greg never left his house he was reasonably networked. But from for me it. Yeah I just met some people of course in in the course of playing all those tournaments. But it wasn't we weren't really going out for drinks and stuff like that the even the posting on two plus two or these days posting on twitter making podcasts. All that is a form of extroversion. Wow right like you you have to pasture insecurities he is in like press and yeah for sure. Yeah it is and that's another thing where Having kids just totally flip my perspective I used to have sort of fear of public speaking speaking. And then you have kids and you just feel like none of that ship matters. You know what you need to do. Basically so what do you mean like. The fear just didn't seem as significant because there's so many bigger things in life. Yeah it was just gone. It's like you kind of I don't really care what people think anymore. You know when you have a family you want your family you to love you and appreciate you and everything beyond that it just you you kind of at least for me focus on what needs to be done right. That's fascinating and you know nowadays. As of course I'm sure you're aware in poker. This content boom as a lot of sponsored players for sure always have multiple streams of their content production but even players. Who who aren't sponsored? Just to kind of have fun at work often create a podcast at twitch channel. Certainly a twitter and instagram persona. You've been very successful in creating meeting the perpetual podcasting kind of carving out. This incredible niche at the time of recording. You have over one hundred fifty episodes. Can you give some advice to aspiring being content creators. It's funny you should mention because I mean I do. I'm happy with the success I've had I have. I have my little tiny corner of the universe and it's amazing to get to talk to to these brilliant chess players and it's definitely my favorite aspect of my professional work but I just interviewed this guy. Good Mater. He has the biggest chess youtube channel in the world. And you know. He gave the sort of classic received advice. which is if you have some idea in your head if you WanNa create content you just have to do it in push through and and this for me what it was when I started this podcast you know? Of course James Alcocer has been on perpetual chess. He's been on your show. We both read his books. Were both fans of his. You know he talks about. Ah an idea generation machine. That's not me as I retired from poker and didn't play ever. I still liked poker. podcast I've listened to thinking poker over the years I've always enjoyed enjoyed watching Joe Ingram. I do enjoy the game of parliament. Omaha generally entertaining. Basically what I was GONNA say about creating the podcast is it was like an idea that wouldn't go away so specifically if you have an idea that will not go away you need to pursue that. That's what my experience was. You keep thinking about doing something. If it's just a passing idea you could do it. You could not do it. But if if it's something that's recurring that's like your subconscious mind or even your conscious mind trying to send you a message and tell. How long was this idea lingering before you pulled the trigger? It was at least a year. I mean I had a notes in my notes APP on my phone. I would brainstorm names and brainstorming possible guests and I was again. I'm an introvert. I was working. I was you know My oldest son was a baby so I wasn't overflowing with free time so honestly honestly if someone else had started chess podcast. I would've just forgot about it but it just didn't happen and eventually I found the person who produces my podcast also. There were no more technical obstacles and then I just decided okay. I have to try this and when you come up with a name. And how did you decide like this is the one I guess. It was just brainstorming. Storming at some point you know some point driving around or something and luckily unlike Shout out to lucky chewy. I do not have a photographic memory but I've learned to write things down even before our new. I was GONNA do the podcast. I knew if I'm going to do it. This is what it's going to be called for those who don't play chess. I love the title events. podcast perpetual podcast because perpetual check is a term Chasse that refers to what I consider an endless GAM you check the king and then it goes back to the square before and you keep checking it back and forth. You don't have a better way to play. Perhaps your down material on the other side of the board. It's an agreed draw but in a way it's an endless game that never ends which is of course what your fans and listeners. Hope your podcast will right and not to get too like marketing. Speak on you guys. But of course chess has around for fifteen hundred years. I mean it is the perpetual game. That's one thing I love about it. As a you know it's played in every country and it's just it's longevity is amazing so absolutely and you know going back to jail two journalists. I feel like for me. I can kind of understand what he's saying because I do like to like write lists and write down dislike a bunch of terrible ideas sometimes email all my friends them. But you're right ones that kind of continued pop up in the same lists or that you just have more of a zinger feeling towards lake. I have to do this like like when I thought of the idea for the the chest page or even the idea for this podcast the richest like a more of a compulsion feeling. Yeah and I should be clear I think and James is absolutely right. I just don't do it you know. I think it's amazing to write down a list of ideas every day as he suggests but I just haven't done it and yeah I had a similar alert feeling and I hadn't had this feeling since I started the podcast but when I expanded as you mentioned to start doing recaps of chess books I finally had that feeling again like okay. This is something where you know. Forget your scheduled. You just find you need to find a way to make it work. Yeah what do you think the number one thing that the poker world do even better from learning from the chess world. I'm like the tanker by nature. I have to confess in poker. I just you know I'm analytic CLO- I played classical chess. So you know you would have six hour games. It wouldn't be that unusual also. My instinct is to think a long time but it's just absurd. How long people think I do? Think that Clocks needs to be mandatory and people just need to learn to deal with it so similar to the debate about chest that of course your brother is advancing. The Movement of Faster Chess Games being better for the viewing population and still pretty high quality quality games right and that can kind of create like a bigger differential between the best players and those in the next year. Like when you have somebody like Dan. Boris or Jae Kun. And you think like well yeah you could play like them In one hand especially if you had like five times as much time as thirty seconds right having to have that all like at your fingertips it does seem like more analogous to like walking chess playing calculating and being like wow. That's really hard. Yeah it's true. It would be hard and some another interesting parallel. I read you know I still consume zoom poker content as well as tons of chess content. I'm reading a former world. Champion Viswanathan Anand Book Mein Master. And he's talking about of course The neural networks which are kind of taking over the chess world on my podcast just in the past two months interviewed like three opening book authors. Who are kind of at the vanguard using these like thirty five thirty six hundred rated computers to discover new things in the opening and it seems like there's just an explosion obviously? I'm not breaking ground by saying chess. Computers are good at chess but it seems like the trend is accelerating and I was listening to Olivia. blue-sky recently started a podcast. So I checked it out and I really enjoyed it. And I heard him him mentioned that he felt like the gap between the elite players in poker and the sort of mid stakes grinders etc was growing because of sovereign so. I think that's another another parallel between chess and poker and I'm interested to see what what happens with both of them in terms of what the top people do and how information gets filtered down to mortals. It's like me yeah to lies with the agreed new podcast As well I'm yeah. I think that's really interesting. I mean I think that's one of the reasons like I wasn't isn't totally joking about the nerd thing. I think that all poker players are now kind of fascinated by solvers and like chess players. Because we've been working with like this kind of similar everything to a solver for so many years right yeah it makes us more fascinating to poker players than it used to be. Thank I see so many poker players really taking chess cast seriously now. I didn't notice that too. Yeah before I think people really kinda interested all that's Kinda interesting. Maybe I'll play a game whereas now I think people are like really a lot of people are really trying to study thaddeus. Yeah I've noticed that as well. It's nice to see the world's kind of connect because I do think that chess players in poker players are kindred spirits. And I get what you're saying about poker players players wanting to use solvers like I'm there's a lot I don't miss about being professional poker player but I could totally get down with the idea of like just hunkering down with a sovereign just like playing with it. It's nowhere near my reality right now but back in the day it was poker tracker and hold a manager. Those things still exist but that was sort of the the peak of the analytics back then and now it's So much more advanced than I would love to get lost in that world in in apparel life. That's one aspect. I really love of Polka right right now. The solvers. It's kind of fun to work with them but they are so different than chess computers. Because I think it's easier even easier in poker than in chess to misinterpret interpret the information and actually like play worse and create and carved bad strategies because of using solvers. Maybe that's a little newer. So the thing about like a solver is you have to put it in all the bedside. Yeah the inputs. Yeah so many more inputs. Yeah so if you method a- yeah you can just get traffickers all. I definitely agree and in chess. I mean it's amazing. I'm just download lizzy row and thirty five hundred at your fingertips. I mean that is just you know when I add Peterson. Hitler on Perpetual Chess. He grew up in Saint Petersburg Russia and he a US he's told the story of Circling on his calendar. When the new informant book would come out which was like you know a few times? A year trudging across Saint Petersburg taking the Metro Metro to where he could get the informant and then it was just like gold. It was just like this world opens up to you and now it's just like everything is at the tip of a finger you can get all the games by the top top players in in the world the next day and they're not even the peak of the information that's available because of the computers is. It's amazing we talked a lot about how poker players is our seeming to get even more interested in Chasse from you know people. We've mentioned already like Nick Schulman Olivier to just messing me all the time for basic tips. It's really interesting how that's become such a big trend. There's Bill Perkins who running the tournament. That's awesome shot on the bill for doing that. That's amazing yeah. Charity Chess Tournament coming up in Houston with three three hundred K.. It's Day so there's a lot of that going on. But what about the other way chess players used to be so drawn poker for the quote unquote easy money and hey some of the time they were right now. Is it just really difficult because chess players don't have a lot of money you know the thing that's different is. I knew a lot of successful chess players. There's in in the poker world you could pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You didn't have to upright uproots your life whereas now it's like if you WANNA be a poker pro Wa la I you have to decide if you're gonNA play online or live whereas before I mean anyone could play online. Anyone could get the wraps and you could build up the bankroll and now it just seems so much it's harder. I mean. Part of the reason I quit poker in two thousand eleven was I loved living in New York and I wasn't really willing to move to play so when I was already burnt out but when when black black Friday hit it was just a no brainer to me. I'm not moving to play this game. That's lately driving me crazy to move to a different place to go to a casino every day and it to get your raps like so slowly. That's a big commitment. I mean my experience playing live especially in the past year. I don't play that often but there's still plenty of money to be made for you. Know the analog analytically minded individuals by. There's a cost you know. There's there's a cost in terms of your lifestyle that I think it's a higher the bar in terms of the sacrifice required and getting back to all the content creation and poker. I do think that's part of the reason. Everyone has a side hustle and poker now. Yeah and I also think it depends on what you want. What my advice would be to chess players who want to kind of get into poker or even people who are analytical a play some other game or in math is that you should kind of started as a profitable hobby? That'd be your first call. Yeah for sure which was true. Back in the day to. It's just back in the day. It would become a profitable hobby by accident whereas now it's like you know years of work so Y- yeah but it's excellent advice. Unfortunately I have to take it slow and that can be hard because again if you don't live where there's a casino and you aren't in mistake especially in the US. I'm talking about but I mean from what I hear about Europe. I mean the online games are pretty tough so I'm talking more about. I think it's still viable live online. Nine it's probably more of a case by case basis and of course in the US you have the underground sites but they have their own set of problems. It's harder to do it as a side hustle because you have to live somewhere where it's I'm available well. At least poker stars came to our lives. So that's actually really nice as well and that's five in heavy more guests in my life studio even though it's not relevant to you people are kind of coming through more auto that makes sense. Yeah like I said these days I enjoy PARLAMENTO MAHONE IF I'm watching NBA game. I love to to fire up a few tables on on the IPAD. I'm very lucky that I live live live in a state where that's possible but I don't know my experience comparing like where I am in life online and live. If I were to ever pursue poker would it would have to be live but it's not going to happen either way that actually ties into my next question. If you were suddenly given one million dollars in a briefcase just play poker you had to play poker at the and try to to build it. What would be your strategy? Well that gets to the issue of These private games. Of course I mean I. I'm guessing I have heard all the episodes of the grid. I don't hear them coming up that often but I mean unfortunately that's the golden goose these days very often where I am in life if I were to try to build a poker bankroll whether it was from a million or from. I'm where I was. I would want to emphasize quality of game over quantity. That would be my number one thing as I told you I enjoy studying so I would love to study poker. I mean again separate for life. It's not going to happen but I would love to study poker ten hours a week and play one or two nights a week. And that's it you know but anything that involves like hardcore grinding would just it. It started to eat away at my soul in two thousand eleven poker again. I love it but certainly I was. I was ready to quit when I quit and I think that would happen again if I went back to playing full time right right of of course this hypothetical you'd be forced to spend the million on poker. No and I enjoy. I enjoy playing but yeah for me it would I would definitely want to skew towards higher stakes wchs and you know I enjoy the process of trying to get better but I wouldn't want to try to compete with the elite in poker. They're just so amazing. I I still think game selection. Is You know. It can't be overemphasized no matter what your financial situation is and that ties into this whole earlier discussion. We had about network game which which is an underrated skill in poker and Chasse. Not only because it can help your chest game and your poker game but also because maybe if you go into some other career can help absolutely. I mean I've seen a high stakes players online say I think it was. He's a high-stakes pillow player L.. Ashby said it was one of these little memes on twitter where it was like. You shred some shape sacred cow in your industry or something like that like you're supposed to sub tweet or quote tweet something with like something that's perceived wisdom but isn't actually true and he said something like the the the connections you'll make from playing high stakes. Poker cash games will be more valuable to you than than the cash games themselves which I totally believe having some friends who move in those Oh circles and you know still to this day and are playing with a lot of successful people from outside the poker world so this was a tweet which was supposed to be real advice or it was Israel advice but it was like against the it was supposed to be against the perceived wisdom so he was saying it's more valuable to make friends with these successful people from outside of poker then then it is to actually just win money from them that's fascinating and you know. I think that is interesting. Because it also the type of person who believes that and actually internalizes that had respect is probably more likely to get invited to the game right yeah. You don't want to be too cynical about it either. I feel like I mean again. I'm not in this world but it seems to me like if you want to play play these these high stakes games. It's like you need to be friendly and make it entertaining. But you don't Wanna be phony so again as an introvert I would find that challenging. You know I don't i. I don't need to sit there and wear headphones. But you know it's hard to change your personality. Did you. Actually take the Myers Briggs tasks in did you find yourself lake high on the introverts cow. I yeah it's been a long time. I don't remember what it was called but I was definitely an introvert. Well maybe now after all this work with the perpetual podcast. You'll have shifted a little bit. Do you think like your personality. Allie has actually changed. Or you've just met these challenges I would say I've met the challenges like if there's you know a party I mean you you know I'm turning forty three later this month. Mary two little kids so I don't go to a lot of parties but if there was a party where they're going to be a lot of people I didn't know the the apprehension that I used to feel like single in my twenties would still be there. So it's more about like professional responsibilities in public speaking and and stuff like that. Is there still something like that would make you scared It's more just I wouldn't. It wouldn't seem like fun you know. It's just if something it doesn't suit your personality. I mean that was the beauty of online poker back in the day. As like you're using your brain and you're making a living. I mean it was just an incredible blessing. As as I'm greg among others have alluded to and I asked you earlier whether winning this hand would have changed your life but you know what about the flip side. Would you have been where you are now. If it wasn't for poker like like how do you think it would have changed things you know. That's a question. I wrestled with a lot because you didn't pick up poker. It's hard to say because I was enjoying teaching chess. When poker came along and I was thinking starting to think I might WanNa do my whole life but I was also young enough where I could go to graduate school or something like that and whereas when Black Friday came in two thousand eleven I had taken an interest in the financial markets and I wanted to try trading but I also at that time was thirty four and I could've gone to graduate school but it felt like on the late side so poker? It's possible poker. Took me away from sort of Some sort of advanced degree like in an MBA or law school or something like that but one never knows. Only thing that you didn't really succeed in life. Is This Day training. Yeah Yeah I tried to trade for a living for five years and it's funny because in poker. I was good at competing but I also kind of knew my place in the ecosystem. I was pretty good but I never considered myself self elite and when I played Online especially I game selected so I was pretty successful in just not playing the toughest games I wasn't you know again I played limit holdem so I wasn't playing heads up with Matt Horne Linka. Whenever I ended up in a game with him he was just so much better than me? Clearly so I had that knowledge in the poker world but then I decided to enter the toughest most competitive field in the world financial markets and it was just it came from a place of love. I read every book I could get my hands on. I was building spreadsheets. I was studying. That's when I took up meditating which of like a lot of your guests have and it. Meditating of course would have been probably put to better better use dealing with sort of injustice tilt in the later years of my poker career I. It's funny that I knew my place in the poker world but then try to even more competitive landscape and eventually had to realize that that it was just too hard. I mean it's fascinating that you may that conclusion but it's hard for me to imagine that all those books that you read during that time having have informed your abilities as a podcast I mean hopefully it helps and of course it got me thinking about markets generally and I honestly felt like chess podcasts word inefficient inefficient market and obviously in the financial world. There aren't a lot of inefficient markets. And I should be clear that of course. I love Jen's chest podcast and the US Chess Federation and has a few PODCASTS. Now so few more have sprouted up over the years but at the time there was one other chess podcast full English breakfast with poker enthusiasts Lawrence is Trent and MacAulay Peterson and ginger. GM Simon Williams. And by the time I started my podcast. They weren't doing it at that moment. So basically an inefficient market means an under under saturated market. Yeah Yeah like a glaring hole in the media landscape as far as I was concerned any other understated markets. You see right now then well in the chess world would I still think there's room for more chest podcast. I probably shouldn't say that but I mean there's there's other stuff that could be done. I feel like chess. Parents get emails from chess parents. Who you know? It's such a unique unique world. So if you're not of a chess background and a lot of kids are getting into chess. These days you try to navigate at people who are into PODCAST GONNA look for chess podcast and I'm proud proud of the work I do. But it's not really entry level you know so like parents could chess parents could use a podcast chest. Kids could use a podcast. Those are my ideas in the chess world. which which is what I'm most involved in? I can't think of anything in the Polka road off the top of my head because again as we've discussed it so incredible how many brilliant minds are creating creating content in the poker world and I can't you know the inefficient market in the poker world is that it's not allowed online and you know forty five states. Well I think one of the reasons thousands that it's unlikely for the poker media market to be Under saturated in it's going to be really hard to find those holes is because you don't necessarily they have to make direct money in poker content valuable. Yeah because there's so much Indirect money in the background right where people are interested in being on it because they have stuff to promote or their sponsors that are interested in being attached even like peripheral a whereas a lot of other things you know. If you're not getting like x number Patriot transcribers might stop it in a couple of years. Yeah Yeah we should say my podcast. I'm very very very fortunate shoutout to all my patriots subscribers because it's community supported podcast and without them I started digging into my own pocket and saying who knows where this was going to go. But there's no way I would be able to put it in as many hours as Do without the community support exactly so and I'm of course. I am a patriot. Depot Patriot or patriotic. Its patron not turn can patrol. And as far as I know and I think it's really important to obviously support the content that you're consuming so unless you know you're really it's really impossible for you to afforded if you're listening to a podcast does have patriotic. I mean you should sign up right. I don't WANNA sound like I'm schilling specifically for my podcast but it's definitely. It's flipped perspective active overall that even just a dollar a month generally if you have a reasonably popular content thing if it's supported at a small scale by lots of people that tends to be plenty any it's more just if you're in a niche thing like chess and there's not necessarily consistent advertising revenue pouring in you can have a wide audience but not necessarily An obvious way to monetize it other than in my case I'm again extremely lucky that the perpetual chess audience is generous. Yeah absolutely I do have a couple of questions. Nations from the audience. Randy temple out adult improving for Poker What up ran? Oh this is one of my oldest friends adult improving for poker over. I mean it's a golden age similar to chess. It's incredible I mean I subscribed when I moved back to New Jersey. I briefly felt like okay. I'm going to really like I'm going to play poker one night a week and treat it professionally so I subscribed to run at once. You know. Poker Stars has some stuff under poker school. If I were studying poker I I love the solver Breakdowns Bounds. Because again I. I've never even used a solver but to me like nothing would be more compelling than just like a an elite or you're not even elite but just a winning you know medium to high stakes pro just walking through how you use the solver on specific hands a lot of that content is even free. Yeah so yeah. There's there's really it's not that bad but then again when I play live. It's like I was watching these. Tom Chambers videos on run at once for like a P. L. O.. Theory and you know I felt like I was learning from it but what what was going on in those videos and what was going on at the Parx Casino. We're very different experiences. I will say not a lot of overlap because I mean okay. The pros are pretty a decent but they're just exploiting the bad players. I mean I guess like this high level study even in mid to high stakes parliament Omaha Games. It might help you against the other pros. It was but I mean I've heard people like Andro say like you need to know the fundamental so you know when to deviate but I still think in this day and age live poker. You mainly need to know when to deviate you mainly we need to know Garrett Eto Stein. I watched one of his videos. He has one on tells. That's really good where he says like you know he just not to be too crass but there are certain people who are going to lose the money. Are you going to be the one that gets it This is more cash games than tournaments. But I mean such is the world that you live in if you play poker too good I heard because I think he you got blowback because the videos were so good. He's not making last long but they they hold up. Well that's fascinating. I go back to that. But yeah and then there's this thing actually been you'd probably like because it reminds me of like banner blitz this thing that sulfur why they created where everybody's weighing noise cancelling headphones. Okay and they talk about what they're thinking or in the Han Dan. Yeah Yeah I've I've seen bits and pieces of that. Yeah that could be fun. It's also similar to the protest league where they had everybody wearing noise cancelling headphones so everybody could dislike babble about what they thought about the the positions in the background. It's fun to get different people's perspective and see how like to professionals in whether it be poker or could be thinking about totally different things at the same moment. Well this has been such a a wonderful interview and I mean it's Kinda amazing that you're so involved in both chess content and also in Chassar a dad of two. Do you still have time to kind of keep one toe in the barker argue described it as ten percent so one tau. Yeah exactly. That's about right. Definitely one toe. Yeah and no aspirations of of it being greater but poker will always have a special place in my heart and you know for any for any poker players who are interested in checking out. The chess swirled check out my podcast. Some are more accessible than others. But I don't know me personally. I like diving into niche things. Even if it's not my niche so check it out and and see what you think of our little world. Yeah absolutely and speaking of accessible. I'd say one of the number one accessible episodes of me that recent when he had with Jonathan Rows in. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's it's inaccessible but in a different way just because he's so brilliant but yeah he's he recently wrote a book called the moves that matter where he's trying to play chess in the context context of his life as a former chess professional. Gone Straight. He's also trying to place it in the context of what I was mentioning earlier about chest being such a timeless game and where it exists in the world I've also had on Hamilton. I've noticed a lot of the poker players like the bras. I think his interview was pretty accessible. I mean those guys are the chest browser amazing presenters is and they have a way of making their genius a little more understandable than some others a more fun as well love it absolutely love it. Well it's at Perpetual Chesapeake Dot Com. The three you can find all the links to your twitter which is at beneficial one and then how do we find you on Patriot on. It's linked on the perpetual chests website. I and I always put it in the episode description. So if you're enjoying the show you're welcome to support it but more I'm more interested in just checking it out and seeing. If you enjoy it that I wouldn't. I wouldn't want anyone to contribute. If they're not actually listening. Wow those are some kind words. There generous words. Yeah well I mean it. They might not all right. Thank you so much for pocket sevens throwing us all the way back to two thousand six. EP T- Some of my listeners. Probably Liam my elementary school. Thanks to and it's been a fun stroll down Memory Lane. Thank you so much listening to the Pogo Grid. Go ahead and subscribe on your favorite Britt podcast network or on Apple podcasts. Stitcher spotify we also really appreciate your reviews and ratings they really do help we also have a new mailing linguist so go ahead and subscribe to that on the poker grid dot com slash subscribe. Finally if you're looking for a way to support me and my projects I'm the women's Program of director at US chess and we're trying to equalize the field in the mind sports arena. You can go to. US CHESS DOT ORG and pick a donation of any size Is I'd really appreciate it. Thank you so much for listening to the poker grade as we countdown. 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The 'Fighting on a Corner with Iron Mike and Uncle Snoop' Episode

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The 'Fighting on a Corner with Iron Mike and Uncle Snoop' Episode

"Hey there. Because you're listening to this podcast, we blew I. Want you to know this one. We forgotten love you in two. We WanNA. Learn more about you help us make more content. You'll love by filling out a survey. You can find in the description of this podcast. You'll help us out a ton, and you'll have a chance to win a blue t shirt, hoodie or a pair of air pods. The appreciate. You hope you're staying safe and want you to enjoy this podcast. What everybody, welcome to another week of the Corner Podcast, cal Dan's me here with the old man on his hail I am still in Puerto Rico I. AM sweating so crazy right now. The humidity today is ninety eight percent. I'M GONNA come back a new man I will be smaller than Angelo Dawkins mark my words. That is the goal right now. Thank you guys for tuning and we have a packed show for you today. We're talking boxing Mike Tyson is officially coming back. Going to try to wheel back my bet with dray, it's not maybe maybe he just gives me a little leeway. We'll sit. We got. We got like fifteen minutes to get to that point in the show. Let's see how he's feel and by them. Maybe the claw kick in I'll have a fighting chance, and then we're also talking. You have Joseph Benefit as loses again. What's in store for him moving? Moving forward and we have a lot of people returning boxing this week. Top rank wrapped up. So that means zone golden boy are taking baton and running with it. We also have showtime now seeing their full calendar, so we have to talk about those fights as well to start off though Dray, we're GonNa put me in a good mood before and try and put you in a good mood. Baseball is back. People know that we are baseball. Fans on this show. We don't talk about it often because a combat sports podcasts, but dammit. My Yankees come back today Garrett Cole Bay by the time you listen to this, we may have one would. Most likely would have won if we've lost. Don't contact me on social media. I'm going to be very very downtrodden. If we lose this first game, there's only sixty games this season. We need everyone that we can get. My Yankees are winning the ring. But how optimistic are you about your squad? Drill the White Sox I'm mean look man. It's all everything's up from us, everybody's young. You know I mean we got a few Oh Jeez. You got in Carcione. Older now, just money dollar I mean, but we're loaded eloy men. Is it just kind of sucks? copay won't be pitching this year. He's taking the year off for reasons that don't know why, but dude. We're playing with house money right now. Sixty Games. It's easy for easy. The expanded playoffs we should make the playoffs. This expanded playoffs had bad for for the Yankees and the dodgers. three-game series are the pits. We don't want to trip up against someone. And even if we get down in first game, you've got to exhaust your entire bullpen to win the next two. It's just crazy I ate that idea. collusion there colluding to keep my Yankees from a championship as what it is. But not, really you guys are loaded Tim. Anderson is one of the fun. Is Baseball players I've seen in decades. Do our team is full of Dominicans intimidates? backflips everywhere. I love it know they're just fun. Usually I try to hate on everything around you, but in this case I can't even front you're you have a fun team? I like watching them I liked watching them. Even the Inter squad games leading up to this season. How Damn I'm not mad at the white sox right now. Hope you guys when that division because Cleveland. They're not that great and I WON'T BE CLEVELAND. Our biggest competition is going to be all swings. The twins are going to be. either. We've watched it so tough last year. They got. Josh Donaldson so you know the twins can be looking good this year, but again massage Louis Robert like we look. Good. I just pitching, taking the next step. Lido took a Houston last season and not Lopez do the same. We Got Dallas Kaikal. Who's just an innings eater? Sixty gays man. This spring and I wasn't sure we're going to have a baseball season, so sixty games is better than no games. I don't. How do you feel about whoever wins if they're going to put an asterix, don't just assume the Yankees in the wind and the dodgers actually stack team. Dodgers do doubt the dodgers, though I've just counting the dodgers dodgers like they do most playoff series when it comes down to a world series not no astor's like I. Don't put an Asterisk by the Spurs winning in the crazy short and season in the NBA Tim, Duncan and David Robinson got to ring right like I. Don't count that as an answer as it's happened twice in baseball, who last team I believe. It was the Blue Jays to win it. Off, of the strike. and I think they went back to back. In those years, so they want regular and they'll offer strike. Yes, so I mean, I. Don't put an Asterisk on that it. It's truly a sprint, I think. This season's more unique than any. We've seen in any other sport just because you need that depth this season. Do so Wassall just got just hit with the covy. Oh, yeah, playing tonight! We don't even. Helps you a lot, but just think about like the injured list now like fantasy baseball guy so the detail in the injured list usually for to experience four. Because you have no idea how many guys are gonNA. Come Down with his shooting. They're all traveling like you don't know the whole national team. Go down like you have no idea what's about to happen. And! It makes it intriguing, but. This is truly unlike any other baseball season usually strike shortened seasons. They don't end in a strike. They usually start with strike. You know what I'm saying like the just short because something like that. This is different like we're going. We have a schedule. That's specifically sixty games. And it's like. Do you have to death? You have to be healthy like if somebody gets hurt. It's a wrap. You guys like Mike. Trout who may or may not play the whole season. He's got a kid on the way, so he could be offered two weeks two weeks US ten games. Of the season s crazy. Yemen. It's going to be wild I'm. Don't know what's going on. Person doesn't know how to turn off the alarm outside Puerto. Rico is a whole different place. There you go finally. Shut it off, No, I the my Yankees. Because last year David is back. Last year. We played almost the whole season like that right like we played with triple eighteen last year. Everyone was hurt. We did okay. Our bullpen is our strong point. We've Lost Chapman to the COVID for a little while, but hopefully better now than later. If he had cash Cova, so it's like okay. He comes back. I have faith in what we can do. It. Let's be honest. Everyone gets hurt our team over damn time anyway, so if we can just keep them healthy for forty games, and we have rotational pieces to move in to get everyone fifteen twenty games of rest. I think the benefit for all teams. This season is the winds count right? World series counts I. Don't think stats count for the first time in forever in baseball. Someone gets four if four hundred. That's an asterisk. No one's going to break the home run record. No one's going to break the strikeout record, right? No one's going to break the winds record. So who cares if you play? Forty five games are sixty. As long as your team wins, that's the only thing that counts for this year, so I don't expect a lot of my ankles players to play fifty five games for what we'll alternate off days. We got a very deep team. Everyone will play forty five and try to keep them healthy for what remains. What does usually two months of baseball season is now the entire season so a. Winning though like. If you start slow, then you're going to have to play hard. Any yet we're not starting again. We live the pace last year with everyone injure. I think our backups are battle, tested and proven other teams could not say the same. People started on down another other teams. They depended on trade. Deadline's bringing in new acquisition and. All that's not going to necessarily happen this year. the trade deadline might be fucking nuts. Though who knows three weeks, dude, there might be some starting pitches fly fine around here like. Quicken early, this whole season's going to be k asked, and I'm here for this is going to be fans and I wish if there was one thing that they would do. I guess next week. We'll talk about the NBA because they'll be back in. Actually I would like them to amplify the sound of the ball in the bag. Like when when the when the bet hits the ball, I would like to hear that amplified like the crack is if I can't hear the fans, give me something. I want to hear like. Only sound like I'm always fascinated with this out. I feel like you'll hear the players on the field you. Might people don't do that for spring training. Yeah, I mean. It was good like when I think Anthony Rizzo was miked up hit like a double was talking shit the entire time around the base. mookie Betts last year was might up. He was like Oh. Hold on I gotta go. Catches fly ball and he runs casualties. That's a little farther than I thought like. That's one. You don't have these other things. You have these methods that you've already tested a lot of these are. Real baseball in the field you stand around a lot. Well just talk. You make up one yeah Mike up one outfielder infield. Okay, maybe not. First base got to do a Lotta Shit. Like maybe can mike up the Infield, but you can make up an outfielder on every team. Just get some different. They're standing around a lot of time, so we'll see what baseball comes up with. I'd like to know cardboard cutouts. Those are funny. I'm trying to figure out out my face one of those. Mind that the official sound does it sound is weird as it doesn't like pro wrestling. Or Boxing top-ranked. Did it like it doesn't sound that weird to me? Is feels more place with baseball. Swimming mattering. Who I think TNA had like crazy like. We just talked about that. We recapped it on our last show, but we didn't talk about Sammy Versi, and like they had not a laugh track, but they have like cheers track throughout the entire thing. So, you really couldn't like. Gauge what the focus happened. I think. Aws had their actual crowd this week. Just yell the entire time. It was just loud as fuck, so I mean I've rather the controlled like. Going crazy win big stuff habits. I don't mind that baseball I feel like is the best equipped to be with no fans. I could go through half a game three quarters of game and not even notice I mean there's. Some places the Marlins and never have fans anyway. So, what's the difference you? Know I mean maybe you know you get. When you go to play the cubbies, Wrigley's Rockley nor Red Sox, Iraq in Yankee Stadium is pretty dos Ofra crowd, but you get some of these other places that are really going crazy Houston huge advantage on got west. The giants fans are still not you look at teams that dodgers especially okay. They lose them, but you still get to be in your home. Ballpark which I think is the biggest advantage. Because Yankee Stadium still a bandbox. They would've made us play at a neutral site in a bubble. We're asked out. Like we need that advantage of Yankee Stadium. It is just it is what it is, and so I'm glad it's gone. That way can't wait for. Baseball starts going to be a fun season. I can't believe that you're still doing fantasy baseball and sixty games. Do I got four teams I. I'm an addict actually finished. Everything. I love the Shit I don't care sixty games like. Who Cares I played quick fast. So Oh congratulations, you finally got an ob the show you can finally start playing. Yes like I've been sitting on. It and I'm still sit on it, but as soon as the season I'm told Y'all I'm weird like that. I can't play a sports game unless there is a sport going on like I. Can't when the NBA happening I'm not playing to K- just started last week. 'cause I knew the was coming back. I can't play him. We'll be. Be the, show baseball season as soon as it gets in the playoffs and the world series out I. Don't play Matt. I'm all. It's the one sports game. I just completely given up on. You don't commanded I. Mean I'M NOT GONNA lie. It's not great like they didn't update it a lot, but I have to play Madden. Nope, just went like I. I would play. College football but I will not play madden anymore. This is not fun. Man is not only bring nab back is breaking records that they bring college football. College football. I mean because the game was great. This this is so much I. Don't know what it is about mad and you're so static is easy. Like once you get. It figured out. It's not like you. It's like with to cave. He playing a hall of fame you can, you'll lose. You'll go on the street. Players get cold. You'll end up losing like you can lose four or five on the road and you realize eight or nine. Men, it's like way too easy to go fifteen and one sixteen or no, it's easy. It's not fun anymore, especially on all matt in. By like forty. That's there isn't there's no way to make it difficult at this point i. don't know what they're gonNa do about that Hopefully they bring back fight night. They put two boxes and UFC four like I feel like we're inching talked to. I talked to the guys when I do the preview. I asked him if there was anything about fight night coming, and they said no like flatly, there has been just no real plans to bring fight night back. That sucks. Is it exclusive rights to ESPN. I'm really wondering why a franchise like to K doesn't just be like you know what fuck it. Let's try. I I don't know I don't know. Because the Brian Hayes when I did I did a documentary on Gay sports years ago and I flew out there. They were making the next Gen this this. It was when they were doing ps, four and xbox. One versions of men and everything else so I went down the NBA to which was terrible, but Brian Hastings. Guy Who does see games, the creative director and we talked about fight night then that was seven years ago. Just their property like they were the ones that I think it's a little bit more difficult to boxers license like the UFC licensee botches. You've gotta get them individually. And that's a pain in the ASS. So I. Don't know if that has a lot to do with it. But that was seven years ago and they were just like now. We're going to be able to do this anytime. And now is to doesn't win. It's still like I. Don't think we're GONNA. Do the same thing that's us. We need to fight nineteen. Do. Yeah, it's been way too long Let's talk about. Talk about stuff from a different era snoop India mix. On the versus battle I saw you. Following along last night had to run back to the crib so I could throw it on because don't Shit work in Puerto Rico without Wifi. So had to run back to the CRIB. I watched it chilling in a pool me and the wife some drinks. You know went down Nostalgia Lane. And Everything, you're saying on the time line was true by the time I tuned in. Was it felt more like a concert? Right it! It didn't feel like the computation wasn't Jada style in Fab. Like even a competition between friends is fun. This was definitely more of a like. I guess like the beanie Mon the one from Jamaica I. It was just two guys. The I got a catalog. You got a catalog. Let's get it at point. Snoop had to help the MEX. Because, he had horrible cardio. The Cardio of USC heavyweight in a five round fight is blown. but listen. That's healthy diem though. So I rather than than skinny. Rap onstage for four hours and pass out demeks. Because that is a aided by different substances so stupid health on some ad libs. That's cool I thought the virus. Don't but people still scored it? Which is fine? And then Cleveland's complex. Correct me if I'm wrong. Dropped to article. Scoring it in favor of Mex- that was revolt, and then the ended up taking the down the there right, they should take it down. Again man should be ashamed of him so. I don't know how how these kids are doing this shit, but whoever they had party up over dropping like it's hot and listen man. It's not stoops greatest song of all time, but the. Party of. I hate that song I hate. and. It feels like party up. It's always been that song that middleweight. America likes solve. That's who was writing this article. White America. Then I get it, but trump it like it's hot was everywhere. and. It was such a big saw. You, you meet somebody. A party up was better than net. No, no, absolutely not there's. The Battle was fun and I didn't score because I thought it was stupid at a certain point because it looked like for the most part, the stoop was really celebrating having. It was crazy to look one. Year older than snoop. That's crazy to. The fact that Diem X. is here. He's happy and he's smiling. Considering all these been through in his life, you can say the same thing about snoop. who was on trial for murder and they're both here in two thousand and twenty. repping smiling snoop dancing, having a good time at there's no reason to score this. This was truly a celebration. This was not anybody trying to one up the other person, but if that's what you wanted to do, there's no way deem wins that battle. But it's not a battle, but why? Why? Why would you score for the next? How? Somebody who had Cameron was song over. Ain't no fun. You GotTa, be fucking kidding me. X. Had more stuff than we thought though when we put extra. I kind of knew what he had. It's just I think again. Snooze highs are these ridiculous highs, and they're different vibes from different this dirty highest for snoop. For DM extra four, maybe six. Yes six generous. Let's say it was like is truly the first two albums are the only I listen to. I don't really listen to much outside of that. But. He's got banners in this chair by knows that the rough rider compilations like he's got. He's got bangers, but it's like come on man. You faces snoop. So, that's ridiculous. There's no way mix has more classics in stoop nuts. I enjoyed myself I just I. Don't know them scoring like they should have said to scoring, but I knew you know clicks and everything else, but the so that was the win that battle like twelve to two, eight or thirteen to seven was like come on, stop held. Thirteen seven is criminal. Anything that's. That's ridiculous thirteen to seven. You're not even watching it that point you. That's what ends up happening. Snoop is playing songs from like deep cover and chronic and doggystyle, and you weren't born and if you wear boy also meant that you didn't listen to any of this stuff so when he played it. You're like I don't know that song. I'M GONNA. Go this song because I know this one. That's kind of how I felt. But I don't know how you do like. Somebody picked some song over Dougie. dugout. have to go down the platelets. Like there's no, there's very few songs period that are bigger and. More revered doggy dog world ain't no fun like those are classic songs. No matter what here deal makes us. Arguably his best in most insightful song is slipping. That's an undeniable song. Absolutely undeniable, but still best so many bangers. Know Crazy amount of banks. List of stuff, sloop didn't play. was crazy other he'd come back next week and be like Pick somebody else. To track. Jesus so many like man. I don't know. People got put some damn respect on snoop's name. Anybody who scored for DM Mason I love the MS and I love the fat damage him new joking about taking their shirts off was probably the funniest thing. That was hilarious. Dad Snoop as close as we're GONNA. Get get the old man beard populate Snoop is forty eight years old DM exits forty nine. Damn. They're they're? They're old. But Superman. Business for a long as time went from being a trout, murder shows Martha Stewart. That guy is a fucking lazing. Talk about. Reinvent yourself cheeses. Wild and Now it comes down to WHO's left I. saw. Someone say they want to see Kisha covert versus Jonty. No thanks I think that maybe breaks eight thousand. I. Don't care about that. There's things go. Never School Fan at all. Ever Neither was I I thought she just wind about horrible relationships, not a fan. No. It was like try to be J. Blige, but something went horribly. So I don't like he should. But, now it's like okay. We got a couple of match ups, obviously the well with the current of Connie. We can't have Connie in the in the makes. But I wouldn't mind if they could pull it off. You know puff I think would be down but a puff versus dre battle. kind of like a battle. The producers East Coast West Coast Vibes. When I was like that's still out there. Slow money I'm like knew if sponsored by Sarah Blah Blah Blah Massa rock around that. You know advertising. Throw them some money that way. I know you gotTA, Plug. What beats by DRE. Around. Speakers the pills. I know I don't know. You GotTa plug that she didn't have that everywhere. Outside of AIDS! Conveyed they both live in l.. A. Takes three hours of their time. Greenwich Short Dr Dre probably make slight and billion dollars in two hours. But. You think. But Yeah you could give up three hours of his time so I wouldn't mind seeing that. And then you know, of course like just on smaller levels. I think that could be a better representation of the quote. UNQUOTE BLOG era rappers. I don't like meek mill, versus while I think would be dope. And the reason why I say answer this, 'cause I for me personally. This is just a personal thing i. Wanted to do it. They're not done so the key. Really in the thick of this so okay, that's. I mean that's fifteen years of accountable. We just talked about x seven six. Yeah, I'm just saying like with the. It's like he's so far removed from that material that you can play those Oh, Shit. Like wildland meet. Definitely like there's still so deep into that they take you really personally, and maybe that's what a battle is four. But. I prefer guys were done with their careers. Like not even completely done, but they're so far removed from their peak while they still in his peak, meek drops still in the speak. Yeah I like to see some you know. Somebody says something like Charlie Wilson in a battle with somebody I was like okay. Get Banned Charlie. Okay, let me or four gap in New Charlie. Who else can really fuck with? That catalog s interesting. Maybe Ronaldo Jersey Charlie. I was just spitballing that I'm with you. I've made up shit and I'm with it Charles. I'm here for that. The the come out for the. Awesome Gatiss you also. Unfortunately Ronald maybe crippled because he can't do anything with R Kelly, but don't. Take Away the count strikes. You play those. Discussing but Ranasinghe tweet listen, you can hear me. Time is about tweet that right now. We bought. Now that'd be a good one for the old heads. I think the ultimate ultimate. If you WANNA, go to. People were no longer like super active. If we can get tribe called quest versus outcast. I think that's probably the best match that we'd be three album three out like those first three I. Thought! That's a good matchup between those that that's a good one. You can tweet that one. I'm swimming this one. But do travelers. Would try versus outcasts because al-Qaeda your tweet. Like one of my favorite groups of all time and same tribe and tribe is. The group that truly made me fall in love with like a certain sound hip hop, because the jazz samples and everything else and tribe also has a perfect song is really really really really incredible. Stupid electric relaxation is like the perfect song. There are very few songs are as perfect as electric. Is. That song is a main on the number levels, not just rap level. The fact that is timeless defected girls can groove to it and the dues rocket and five still comes with anti like that I love that song. But al Qaeda's WOOP. BANGERS upon bangers upon like they played a dungeon could. Goodie Good Shit. Yeah I'll be here all much so. Mean remix cutic- got stuff. That's deep. That that's to me a really really good battle that could come and I don't know who wins. Not I don't need. That comes like playlist. Yeah, because the sequencing right like what what goes wear, and maybe this is blasphemous someone from New, York maybe. Inch over outcast. I would really have to break down that catalog because there's just so many classic joints I'm very partial to everything off a midnight. Marauders I'm very partial to with the same thing goes for women I. Like Equipment is an unbelievable, I'll. In. Southern play list I mean yeah, but some people. They have Class IX stink on you. Then you get into the half out. There's a lot of shit in that al Qaeda and then you go back to trout, and then like you know obviously cute if you wanted to, you know if Audrey Plays Hey, I can play like breathing. Stop vibrant thing, but you know the scenario remix? Buddy native talk stuff who deep shit gets deep. AGAINST DIV. So. I don't know there's a couple. You GotTa really go with scenario. Rivas, probably a trump card like nothing outcasts catalog probably beats that right leg if you like, or it's real tough, so you play that guy play throwaway wherever that is right. What's it? What. But, outcasts comes like there's some Shinto outcasts catalog like what is tried playing the beat this Mean southern play listed play ball winner? I mean that's the first international players out. Trump's every. is so that's another perfect song. There's just so much that can play at them like too much. It's just too much to decide. So, that that's about a we need though. So, yeah, we're going to start a I'm starting the movement. That's who we need and. I will get all my early ninety s that all my gear, my hooky and Bam Bam bottom pending everything. I'm taking it back to knit caps. I think my uncle here. You love to Puerto Rico I think his old school Pele belly. Like I'm brushing that off. As when I mean business. You break out the Pele Pele tough and is ninety degrees here. So man battles so far though touch on this and they've been really really good. Synopsis Makes did not win that no didn't. If you're scoring, did not? We're GONNA. Take a quick break when we come back to so much combat sports talk about that. It's crazy and we're taking our break early because we have to talk about the return of Mike Tyson. Nate Nate Robinson yet short ass! NBA, Nate Robinson vs J.. Paul is on the undercard. Some more craziness will probably be added to that. Then we have top bring ending on a high note zone returning with Virgil Ortiz instead of Ryan Garcia. Fight cards to recap so much. You guys stay tuned. We'll be right back. All right everybody will get back to the show in one second, but first sports are coming back in. 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Who is the more dynamic fighter? Roy Jones Tyson. Reuter Johnson. Dynamic Royal. Mike Tyson was torn. He'd like force. Roy Jones Finesse. Roy. Jones embarrassed opponents. Where might just kind of brutalizing Roy? Barry Tyson had some peekaboo in early on that that was so dude. That window like for anybody who knows boxing. Mike Tyson's window was really small. It was eighteen twenty one years old. And then it was like then you got a car serrated. They I mean he lost the Bust Douglas. You came back beat a few bombs and he got knocked out by a vendor holyfield and it was all downhill from there. Roy On the other hand. Just ransacked everybody. Everybody a lot of let's be real. A lot of his resume is very shaky. I mean as you WanNa. Say bombs there's. Some questionable people on their resume I'll. Teachers a janitor, Royden zebulon their lose the roasted ruthless though. No. No Roy Funds up by going up to heavyweight. And coming back down. The problem like I said. This article of is years ago. They were Jones. Show he broke every rule in the book when it came to box. Lift his hands down pulled his head back. Stay in the pocket with his hands down. He did everything that sheerly on athletic ability. Like there was no a hit some fundamentals, but when you wash them he and use this year. So, it was not conducive to a career that would last long so one day moving up and down wait the first harbour fight. He was slower. He was a hair slow, and that's the those catlike reflexes. You can't be a here slower. And that little here slower ended up being a close fight with Harvard but Royce. Ego was like this running back. Target was like cool because I know you slow down. You just don't believe it. Roy went back to do what he didn't you watch him? Get knocked out by it was the same thing pulled his head back, but he wasn't fast enough to get all the way all the way, eight points and win night night, because the other thing was rain right? Mike were very similar in the fact that when they test the campus. They never knew what it meant to touch the campus. How did I how do I get up I? Don't know how to get up. They didn't know how to get off the canvas neither of them. There were so dominant, but I royal man. Yes Tyson Michael spinks. He beat up a bunch palms running was play in that I run like heave. Heavyweight titles by beating Bono. Heavyweight Tournament. He beat two of the major titleholders in that tournament. No. I'm not look when Tyson won the titles like. A title newspaper to a lot of people space won. That's title and he was scared Shitless. Happen Trevor Berbick was champion and he got ran over, so it was like you know Tyson didn't find poems, but in the middle of his career, then it got got Kinda Dicey, because the window was so small, but I always go back to those two fights with razor Ruddick when you sound like. They were like empty oil cans. That's how they hardly hitting each other in the ribs. It was like boom boom. How hitting? But the problem Mike and the same goes for Roy. Was that Mike didn't fight Riddick Bowe. Holyfield when on the downside of his career. He didn't find like George Foreman or Michael Moore. So allow those days because he being away from the sport, they completely eluded him. He didn't get the fight. Those guys Roy being a middleweight Yankee. Bernard Hopkins early in his career, and then we bought him again when he was washed, he lost but like. He beat Jinx Tony To. Like, Roy a lot of people early in his career, but then he when he became self promoted, there were a lot of fights, fighters, middleweight, super middleweight, heavyweight that he just didn't fight. Because the money. But who else is GonNa? Go play basketball in the morning. Full, court full last game, and then knocked somebody on at night. Jones junior and then make arrests on about it. What's the betting odds at West Gate have it as a pickle right now minus one cent for each. My question is what are the odds for Roy Jones wrapping his own self to the ring. That has to be strong right like you getting good odds on that. If he doesn't rapidly sold out. y'All must've forgot. What are we doing? Now I don't know what we're doing here. According to get online Mike. Tyson's minus three fifty. Roy Jones the plus. Listen I'm a huge Roy Jones. Roy Jones fighting this in which I don't even know if they announced the wait for the, but it got to be heavyweight. Has To be so. Like this being an open weight fight. With Mike looking the way he does. And Roy. Let's be real looking the way he does. Roy Right doesn't look like. He went Vegan and he's been training for six months. You know like Roy. Doesn't look Prime Roy. Tyson got an eight-pack looks as good as you can for fifty four years. Here, but this looks can be deceiving. Here's my issue before we start talking about this becher about to lose. Here's my. People have looked at Mike Tyson hip pads not people. He hasn't fought fifteen years Roy. Jones is actually been in a box in the last two years. That's huge. And people aren't paying any attention to that. At all. I don't know what Roy has left. But the fact that he has at least caught somebody in a sanction match two years ago to Mike Tyson's fifteen mean something because dude people hit pads all the time I. Sure don't mean nothing suspense there, inanimate objects. They don't hit you back. Roads GonNa hit back. When that fast got a pretty good chance. I mean you can hit them but I'm just saying what happens. Mike's never since customized died. Mike Tyson has never been known for his defense, so Roy pops a good time because we might never had a great team. So Roy pop some good well. My head decent you. Break it's. and. Dude I'M GONNA. Put it like this. I don't know who Mike Tyson is. Like those interviews are still scaring me I don't want to go back to the old like what happens with Roy, showboats hits them. Mike sees read. Roy Jones funeral that could happen. That's very possible or actually expect or Roy. Show hits them Mike sees. Red Can't catch. Roy gets piece though and knocked out because Mike for Better. Be Clear. Because Mike as Fifteen years you have to remember how he lost his last few fights. He didn't get knocked out. He didn't get back up kind of quit. He checked out. So it fifty, fifty, three, fifty three Mike Tyson could set on his ass, I mean dude if we're I hit some in the body one good time. I don't know if Mexico on. Continue that shoe now. The gloves are going to be bigger. This is supposedly an exhibition. Exhibition boxing means for two guys who are trying to knock the other guy out that there's any half speed in boxing. You. Have you been the Doghouse it may with his June. There's no half speed there now granted. That's a very rarefied case because they don't they turn the fucking clock off and. Jim But other gyms is not really ashby for five is getting ready for a fight and you put them in a real setting. I can't see these guys going. Let's have fun. Somebody's going to allies GONNA go up someone's GonNa. Try to hurt the other one yet. Listen I'm not a world class athlete by any means, but I just played like football. Turkey bowl at ESPN and I had to apologize three times for cleaning people coming over across the middle. And they're like Yo. It's touch I'm like I'm sorry. If the balls in the air and you're going for it, muscle memory tells me to just take you out. And I apologize after. And that's just me. I played linebacker. Shit. I'm old now in what twelve years haven't played linebacker. Eleven years is play linebacker. But I still my natural instinct to talk somebody up coming across the middle. So might get hit with two Jabs Roy starts dancing. Blow punches him one time. It's over because Mike. See Red. Get real close and he's thrown bombs I. don't Care If you put them in twenty four ounce gloves. I don't know man. I think everybody like the weights going to be a thing obviously. But I. I don't know people have really I. Mean Roy People like our Roy? So fuck you think Mike Tyson was four retired washed up like okay, but this is not that Mike. This mike knocks out. How do we know? How do we know he hasn't been hit by anybody? At fifty three, here's been hit in fifteen. Going off of what the man says, and how the body feels now and how comparing out felt it's how he takes care of himself how everything is! To say it's different when you get in the lights is different in the ring. It all depends. You want once I. Hit you different. Cardio would be his biggest enemy. The gas tank will go before the skill goes. Maybe his skill has come back to to the training. Due to how great he's kept his body, but when you get out there and you've got to compete. You're so hard to get into game shape shots hard again to fight shape. Unless! They're bringing people in for him to do rounds. Tim, who's going to really want hit my Tyson. Not Sparring Meiteis so there's so many my might might Tyson on pay per view for a huge paycheck again game showing sparring him. It's this is a lot of people. It's Roy Jones in. It's like. It's not a vendor. Holyfield who hasn't fought in a decade sky, who just two years ago? I guess live. Competition Greenwich, not the best competition. Where the let's not act. Like Mike is like the great competition. Hopefully he looks good, but I, personally. I've said this before. I don't like this. I think this is very conducive to Mike Tyson considering that all he's been through and come back from I. Don't think he looks at a fight as fun or an exhibition. It brings them you know. Keep taking me out and keep pulling me back in. That's what it looks like for Mike Tyson. I'll think there's anything that's going to be. Roy Better protect himself. Like you come out. There is a round better protect yourself Y- thumbing. Does I mean still might Tyson? I think the aura of Mike Tyson is bigger than anything else. Is Like I, said has one fight. You! He hasn't been a a a formidable opponent in like twenty years. All right with that being said. Will you then let me walk down this? No, absolutely not you. Know Give me three mill. No I'm not. No absolutely not. It's not going to be three million anyway, but I'm not gonNA. Fall for that Shit. No, you're confident. Give me three. No, no, you confident. You took the bait. No! You four million pay per view buys which I I tried to do two point five, and then you alerted me that Mayweather McGregor did four point three and I got tricked into making it full, yeah. So let's go back. That is not happening to my. Level of confidence. You're taking this ill. Just take it. You'RE GONNA. Take it anyway, but I'm not giving you any out because it just sounds even better when you say four million. No. No? There's no way and the best part is because there's a few ways have any where you could maybe go. Oh, man, going to do like one point five or two like if Mike in. Mike worried that like a press tour and we're like talking shit to each other. Yeah Michael Angry. You can juice the buys. Haven't it? Jake polls on this which were touch. Panel Goddamn Jake Paul. As my pay. These youtube kids. Zone subscriptions you get twenty. We got a lot but I'm hoping I'm hoping that this only like thirty dollars paper, but come on man first of all, Roberson is a child size individual. Jake Paul Robinson might knock come out. Jake Paul is like six. Has Anybody Seen Nate Robinson do anything. Other than he Harbinson. A dunk contest at five foot nine out. He was a world class NBA athlete He. Played football at the University of Washington and was one of the best. DB's had. It's not like he's only played one sport forever. No emails legit in football as corner as well. He is a real athlete. He's not Gabe. That doesn't matter though he's not a boxer. Park But Jake. Paulo J. at Lee spar with live competition. He's box. He's got take Paulo. I don't know man. I don't know that I always think about this. On see I was thinking about this and I'll never forget sticky fingers getting his ass whooped. What what the hell was that? Show on MTV. That Boston show celebrity box. IS A. He's a rapper, but he he is not a world class athlete, but he sticky fingers he was, he was ripped and got as he got dolled. Figures Dot. Robinson, who do you understand the level of athletic ability, and takes Ford Forty two inch vertical? Hey, hey, Johnny Jones can't dunk a basketball. Be Sure will whip your ass. Athleticism doesn't mean a whole lot in fighting. It does when you get to relatively novice fighter. Yeah, but at least take his box like I, said he sparred live rounds with real people as a real trainer. Nate. Robinson has like two months. To learn the fundamentals of boxing. Me Assuming that he is never box before. If he has yeah. I. Don't know about it like that. IF HE HASN'T A. Man. Jake much better than Logan. I'll say that like we saw jake. Logan But Little Fundamentals like shooting a jab and he got better. Jake has been in three or four fights to. Think or something like that and he's gotten better, but you only get better competition. They. Robinson hasn't done that yet. He might. WHO, with a jet like the JAB is the scariest thing that him? If, you've never bought for 'cause you don't understand it. Because USA thrown. Around. You have no clue. Rate and it hit you in the face, and you use it on wide looping punches, because that's how we all fall when we were kids I've been hit with the job before and was like no I don't like this because I can't figure on it, yes. No boxing. Oh blogs! Okay, YEA! Industry when I? You. Know How to fight. But Great Jabs and lead cakes. If you attempt to let kick on me like I got to try to check a kick under the fight. I'm leaving. You got this only did heart. Toss up as much as you want. And Jay's got a pretty decent Chad if they can't figure that part out he's done. Now, it's tough if they get into a brawl, then yeah, anything can happen, but if jake. Like was going to be like four rounds. It's going to be short. We're breaking down Jake Paul, versus isn't it? I know, but they were all the whole point. You bring that up to help. Boost pay per view. Sales is not getting four million. that. I need a couple more big names. A couple million is what you need. More big Dave's right I got like one hundred eighty s personally depending on the pricing for fight, and depending on how it's rolled out Agassi one point five. Depending on race thirty I, can I can? Just these fights at thirty dollars. I get to mill out of. But we still have the shit out of this fight. Man. I mean fire sticks. All Day! Tell, you man. There's no like there's no loyalty to sporting this note, so yeah, you lose Nebot the other thing I want to do before you go into so Moscow get one point three. Loyal makes that believes in fighting. They watch UFC they watched cards. Yes, muscle put being dropped to vet down to three. No. No. No. You can't talk me out of this. No major veggie lying. That's what you get. You deserve ventilated told me a bone. I'm not a gentleman pets still. Dinner No. And I'm collecting brunch too many. Feast when I see. Ya that's. Breakfast. Team! We have to go for a bottle of some next. The, the wife still talks about the. One hundred plus dollars. Champagne bottle I had to buy you last time. You want barrage, yes, that. Before we start talking about box the rest of boxing MMA. It was interesting because I saw a few people upset because we were like. Oh! People from showtime BBC Mayweather Promotions and I love them. They're upset. They were like. Oh. I can't believe this showtime announced later fights, and no way you know, wrote anything and then Tyson Roy Jones do this circus and everybody's writing about it and I hit Kelly. Kelly's wants to May with promotions and I was like yeah, because people like a circus, the irony of this is. Just a few years ago. Kelly Swanson Mayweather Promotions Showtime. They were promoting fight. Mayweather McGregor. Were Oscar de la Hoya was like. Man You're overshadowing in triple gene camello with his bullshit. Fight the circus of a fight, and they would always like. Oh, you're just salty met. Salty amid listen I. Get it I, said the same thing. It's a circus will fight is bullshit. Mayweather McGregor was abolishing fight can eligible g was a real fight, but people don't like real fight. People like circuses, and you can't support the May with McGregor circus. Then get mad. You See Tyson and Roy Jones role shit out. You can't. It's going to get more coverage. Sorry, just the way it is. I thought it was saw running. I was like really Kelly you head of me with the promotions. PR I love you, but no. That was a sham and you knew it. But it was a circus and people wanted the circus. People like the circus, just the way it is. Crazy! I mean. If I gave. It, I showtime one post and I gave Tyson like seven so far. During the day, I mean just the numbers of business do. Yeah and liked the showtime minute though they did you know they might shake Clarisa shields dirty. Nine cards and the best female boxer world can't on one keep in mind. They have rolled out the Fox on BBC sleep in. The still a whole, okay. Never fought on Fox navy. She's a showtime person. Baby. She does now. I know fair I don't know that. They need to because she going to be happy they they need to. And if that's the case, that's cool, 'cause you open her up wider audience I guess. Right you put on Primetime television. I liked that angle, but she's only fought our showtimes. She isn't a co main event type of person. She hasn't combing like two years. So I just thought that was odd. But the fight they did announce. They have some really good ones. I think David Ben Evita's coming back I. Know you think very highly of David. Ben Is I think this gets him a step closer to unification bout. definitely Evan Kayla plant. Kayla. Plant should be the Guy I'm taking mellow out of that equation. So I, think Kayla plan is, is that Guy May? Caleb wants another fight. He fought what right before the pandemic it I think. Yeah, so maybe he wants another fight. You didn't look great until later in that fight. Anyway, so maybe he wants another one I. See him training in his yard in Vegas all the damn time, so he's in shape. Maybe he wants another tuneup as well, but I benefit vitas. Fight should be very fun to slept on fight. moved the Leuven fight on September nineteenth gosh. That's going to be a good fight We have the pay per view which. To me. We'll get to the tank. Fight the second. Have no problem with that being pay per view. To Charles pay per view. That's GONNA. Be a tough sell. It was right. See runs pay per views every month. You got another one. You know late October theoretically in September competing or the week after its competing with Loma. On October third. Like. That's probably going to be a paper view that it's going to be a tough ask maybe because it's I maybe they think like you'll be will pay for us and then be asked out. And not pay for the MOMA. Fight on pay per view. I don't know, but I think people were going to be smart enough to, but like I think we'd on this, but we have you know. Jamaal Charles. Versus the river Chanko. That's great fight fantastic fight! And I think Charles biggest test one sixty absolutely d'oeuvres chang-chol, pushed triple due to the limit, and he puts Daniel Jacobson limit. He's a hell of a fighter. This is this is Jamaal Charles True Litmus test. Find out how good he is in this division. Yep and I think if he makes the statement. You Again Cannella doesn't get around to finding triple g triple. G. is just going to go after the belts and trying to clear out the division again. And I think. Charles has a good opportunity to maybe have A. You know a cross promotional fight with triple down online sure Jeez going around a guys absolutely. So I think this sets up that common opponents. If he looked better, I like that fight to be tough, though dramatic Charl as the CO main preservers reo. That should be another. Good fight for Charro I. Don't know what's happening at one fifty four. I feel like. Just kind of waiting for aerospace to move up. fifty four is A. It's an interesting visit. Because as you know guys like Tony Harrison there Jay rock and. Jay Rock lost something to me. I mean one fifty four is not the toughest division is the reason why Oscar de la Hoya said if he came back fight at one, fifty, four, which Charles took exception to beat the brakes off, which is true. But like even drill shirlow lost Tony. Harrison, so it's like. It's an okay division. I don't know man this being a pay per view, they're trying to sell the Charles and the Charles look like stars. Don't get me wrong as twins and I liked the fact that it's a pay per view, double header with have a lot of fighters, afternoon, car and evening. Heart I like that. But I. Don't know about this. Afternoon Card and evening. Yeah these are it's not like Khomeini main. There's a I think. One of them ends in the growth. Right into and I think it's a split site double header. So you'RE GONNA get a lot of fights. I think loosen areas on this fight on this account I don't have it in front of me, but it's a pretty stacked card should appease boxing fans, but if they expect anything beyond that given whether Yosi we'll be doing given, this'll be two weeks after Mike Tyson Roy, Jones. No. No, Yeah then we get the lipids fight, which should be really good. As well after that Rowley into Devante David vs Leo Santa Cruz on the twenty, fourth. which I think that's a really good fight I think they should stack that with a decent undercard to. Man That's. That's one where you get a lot of eyes on someone. Like, a young fighter I'm not sure who's like the next I. Mean Bussiness! Maybe the drawn Ennis's. Scary thing welterweight. Yeah, I think boots would be really good to play in that spot. As the CO main. But yeah, there's there's some talent that they could really get is on there and Devante. The one thing we'll touch on real quick before we move onto UFC is this fight is a little different because the titles for one thirty five m one thirty or both on the line, even though the fight will be at one third, some bullshit with that is how you find for two different weight classes, only fighting one of them the WBA come on. Come on houses for two thousand two different way classes. You'RE GONNA fight like one thirty, one thirty for five rounds in games away. Like what is this, she? 'cause devante dropping it anyway. It's if he wins. It's IT'S OUT IN ONE THIRTY WBA chevy show be up for grabs. It's total bullshit, but whatever whatever whatever sounds good I mean. WBZ's done worse. They just make up. Also, it is what it is. return of dissolve on comeback this week with. Virgil Ortiz. It should be good showcase fight for him, but. Looking at where he is in the one forty seven landscape by the way today, he had to use the towel to make weight. Found that a little odd, but it's a pandemic so. It might be hard to call it. One forty seven. I don't know. Who gives him a shot. I don't this is one of those rare times where it hurts to be on others. I think PBC and top ring might work together I'm not sure who gives a young kid like this to shot to get in. That's that's the greatest question because. He's the goods Virgil Ortiz good. He's GONNA poll. pulverizing vargas that's expected and he's always you know. He said he wants to fight Spanish. He really wants Vike therm you. It'd be a hell of a fight. I think so so shit. But? The welterweight division is ruled by PVC. By that's why but can't get anybody. So, it's like you have. A Virgil on one side of Crawford together. Everybody's in PBC. And what the problem is! The interesting is I talked to Sean for the other day. and. Asks Him. who he was fighting he's to navy was I can't tell you guys. But the joke I had was like well. You can't be anybody good. I was like because you fought everybody good. You know what nobody wants to fight you. Nobody wants to fight him. So. He wasn't a rock and a place where there's a deal to be made if there's a bargaining chip it. Sean Porter Sean Porter Sedans Crawford Future. Maybe software versus Virgil tease shop like nobody spends Thurman Garcia all the photo. None of them are you've never heard any of them? Say I WANNA fight off quarter again, none of them. Not at all. He's not a fun manny Pacquiao. Before specified happened I talked to showing gibbons NUZZLING GIBBONS WHO'S A. Manager is like an, we'll take the shop. What if I? After the fight? He looked at music. I don't think we wanted to fuck that. He's rough. Rough nobody wants to fight him, so he's a bargaining chip. Everybody I want see but and porter. That's the fight I. WanNa see I don't know what happens if Ortiz. He's really on the outside looking in, but he's also a big forty seven, which you just pointed out. Today maybe just goes to fifty four at some point, but I think he's GonNa stay forty, seven, forty, one for a while. Try to figure it out. I think fifty four might be. 'cause, don't I? Just don't see. Who fights him unless you can throw the Bagai Kell Brook. I feel like Halbrook is poised wildcard. It'll proud of until you're right. Brooke Robbie the guy. Yeah! It's a race, because I think tens Crawford is looking. Kell Brook as well as like. Who can I beat up somewhat of a name Kell Brook. That's it but I, take Virgil. It's a race to caliphate. So. I think that's a possibility. That's on the table I. Don't know what Amir Khan's doing. But that's a good name if he's looking for a name. Of someone to probably fight? Or if they want him to get a name and the money is there. Y-. You Pony up the dough and you pedram bronner's six Mil, not the ten he wants, but he gets six anywhere else. You give them the six melt and feed them to young lion. Guest! I think they'll do that I don't think. Default. No I should. Pay Bronner a lot of money to take an asshole been, but that's building star. So we'll. We'll see how that goes for Verge Ortiz. I expect him to win this weekend as well before we gotta get Outta here. We only have a couple of minutes left in. The show didn't leave much time for UFC, but it's OK card wasn't crazy anyway. fight island. Pretty much about the main event. This past weekend figured out vs Ben Evita's the rematch dray. We got it wrong again. Rochman Rongrong figure will be the. Get Your Damn. Jeez Louise it was ugly so submission round one and beat the hell out of them before even submitted him dude the only show just. The only thing I'll say is benefits has tremendous about of resolve. Because figure had chokhin deep in the first round, he didn't tap and I was like. Wow, he's gonNA. Keep fighting a figure out like you know what going to beat the shit out. Get this show on you again anyway. He does exactly that he beat the hell. have been avoided now looking at the flyweight divisions like who was fired him. WHO COME BACK DOWN TO FLYWEIGHT I don't know who's going to be. Too Good. I did like the fact that a lot of people are accident. A comments section on our espn me page and one person to speak out which I kind of like. It's Cody Garbrandt. Because I think. Cody is in line obviously after last performance for a shot at bantamweight title, but he's still maybe two people behind. And if you gotTA, take a fight anyway. Why not go down and try to test that out, so what having to do shallow? That's fair. Cody but. A smaller TJ. No, but cody says he can make. Believe it. So TJ. US All the tracks and still. Haven't liked that. Idea about that like the idea of there's not a real contender there. If a guy like cody garbrandt former champion, big name in this forum wants to go down to test themselves, and he has to take another fight in the interim. Anyway, go dare to be great, because then if you win a championship match-up, you catapult everyone. Shared if al jobs still vital yet, your couch bolting him. 'cause Dana won't commit to him either. So I think that's interesting fight. It's ridiculous. now let's touch on. Just make a quick prediction for this week's fight card. In the! It's actually really good. Fine Card dude his former team fighting. Team fights on that card. Yet, that's that's pretty nuts. 'cause Parvez back see for breezy overdue. Massara versus Gus debut heavyweight I'm taking gus up to do. Say Like for recess bodies books terrible. He looked terrible on a last fight. On. What Gus is GonNa? Look like as a heavyweight, but I think it's GonNa be better than ratio. I agree, and then we have shogun. Who Verses Antonio. ruggero negative. Take! Take! fucking no Shogun to win. He won the first two I'm GONNA. Pick Shogun, but here's the problem. They have shogun listeners thirty eight years old. I'm just not buying issue. Oh, the Shogun shovelnose comes in a row since he was sixteen. Then that's almost like he fought in pride and I'm like Oh. He's only thirty eight, but maybe I don't know Nagas what forty four. Little Nuggets Oh. He's old knock. But they yeah. As forty, four, thirty, eight, younger than forty four. Shit. Show I'll pick shogun. I can't remember. I watched a little dog fight, but all right whatever I don't know last time for either fucking nostalgia fight. I'll take it and then minivan Robert Wood. I dare until. This is. Really good I mean. Winokur was so good for so long. You beat so many good people seem there until trip up so many times. Against fighters you know I mean. It'd right I think whitaker's probably better than horry muscle. And Marshall Cartels so I mean that's been may math, but who? The fuck knows Give me. Roll the dice Kimmy Robert Whitaker I like so a person as a character. GimMe Bobby knuckles to win this now. I'm telling Robert Whitaker. The you said the trip was. To Yeah No. Oh. got knocked out massive doll till went to a split decision. We gasoline, who got ran over by Hermansen last week. And Robert Whitaker lost to like I, said rubber wicketless to a guy who's got a style that was tailor-made to kick his ASS Outta. Sonya I think till doesn't really have that as always. Whitaker didn't lose anything against Sonya. He should win this fight. It should be exciting steals a great fighter. You should be, but I'm going. Go bobby nuts. The. Good thing about whitaker is that it wasn't drag-out. Long asks forbid. No He's Kinda got got knocked down flashing. Piece done like Cou, he kinda bounced back from that the long dragged out just wars. I would be more worried, but this wasn't that so I don't know should be a good fight card. We'll recap it next week and leave more time for MMA especially because hopefully next week boxing. We're kind of die down. We won't have you know versus to talk about all this stuff so plenty more to talk about going forward and sooner or later we'll split back in two or three show format and give boxing. Boxing its own show, Ma, its own show, so that'll be very very welcomed as well. We want to thank you guys for tuning in today. Though man it's. It's been fun. We're going to be back on Sunday talking pro wrestling ton to talk about their again. A lot has happened in the world pro wrestling till then no make sure you guys follow us on social media at Corner podcast. Underscore me, Dan's be him out. Andrei Hail have a fun weekend. Stay safe stay Rona free for now though route. He's.

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Bringing Broadband Internet to Rural Vermont

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Bringing Broadband Internet to Rural Vermont

"From radio vermont it's the dave ramsey show on wgn tv it's your show about the people places hamby issues that matter most to you now here's your host david graham good morning on july second to stay a two thousand nineteen we have a good show lined up for you this morning it'll be talking a little bit of politics first and we're gonna be talking with kevin o'connor of vici digger dot org about bernie sanders is presidential candidacy sanders second run for president here in the twenty twenty democratic primaries how's he doing is he a is he sold out a little bit we're gonna find out whether sanders might have lost a step and lost some momentum or something nothing in just a check in and see what the cabinet find kevin is making frequent trips especially to new hampshire reasonably dude check the bernie sanders campaign over there were of course seen in the first presidential primary in a right nearby so it's a good place to go and get get get a taste at a flavor of what's going on and presidential politics for vici digger frank kevin o'connor later on in the program we're gonna be talking to folks about communications utility district caesar a public efforts to launch broadband internet service in various parts of the state the model for this start it'll probably a decade ago in our so it's easy fiber a v a broadband internet service operating trading in the eastern central vermont areas orange winter winter counties and so on and they've done a heck of a good job down there bringing broadband internet service to air to parts of every month at a formerly didn't have it in the story of course was the big telecom companies were interested in in in really putting on top of their list investing in bringing good internet service out to these rural areas where they're only a couple or a few customers per mile of line and he economics a not as profitable for the big companies and so some of these small town folks who decided well you're not gonna force were gonna do it ourselves that spreading we're gonna be talking with a some folks in the central where my area in the northeast kingdom about their efforts to launch these communication districts it'll be an interesting conversation also joining us in that letter our programs gonna be represented laura civilian she's a lawmaker from down in southern vermont and she has been really pushing hard on delivering broadband internet to more parts of vermont especially rural areas so will be hearing about that a little bit later but first i wanna bring in kevin o'connor are good friend through bt digger and of course the entire media organization is good friend of gram show a full disclosure i still work there part time a so take that for what it's worth but a i love ichi digger they made a huge in very important contribution of journalism and they roughly a decade of existence this is now in one of their one of their stalwarts is kevin o'connor kevin thanks for joining me this morning good morning david how're you doing i'm okay that's good so you had an interesting piece in meteor last couple of days a by bernie sanders and a a deal is worth a female roles a draft of the piece was well i think what's interesting is bernie at the start of the year when he announced for his twenty twenty run was at the time the front runner a mutt he has found found that although his support it's pretty much stayed steady that there have been several other of these twenty four or twenty six or eight hundred and forty two candidates that are now in the democratic primary that are starting to either reach his level of support or surpass it so he's an interesting position in terms of to perhaps a win this he has not only build on his current base but sort of expand it and then the question is how do you do that yeah it's an interesting thing because one of the things about bernie i think many people have commented on the city's how remarkably consistent he has been on an awful lot of his positions and so one is that is that help or hurt when you're trying to expand you're base well i think what's interesting in one of the things that i cited in my story which is on line by the way and this is not an advertising for v digger dot org you can go ahead bigger dot org it's i think on one the consistency really gets his message across and when you think of bernie know what bernie thinks about and you know what bernie stands for and that is a strength at the same time 'em one of the things i mentioned in my story is many of the national media outlets let's who were covering him not only in new hampshire which is where i see him but also in other of the early voting states whether it's in iowa or nevada or south carolina are seeing one at bernie's challenges is he's very good on policy he is not is interested in the retail politics piece of this the hands shaking in the taking selfies and they're signing autographs as some of the other candidates and so there's an understanding at this point that to open his base up and to get more people a supporting him he may have to start doing some of these things that other candidates do very easily he is not necessarily is eager to do yeah he he has a he has a neutral personal style it is a sometimes regarding groff i mean i've heard him reefer do is the grumpy grandma grandpa's and so forth a he's a he's an interesting interesting character on the campaign trail and we've seen a lot of them in vermont over the years a in in you he sort of i think he will you eat warms and cool stewart pretty pretty easily and pretty readily a occasionally he kinda gets into it but a lotta times he sort of a little more standoffish what one thing i mean i saw you there were some interesting then yes and you're piece one was a where a he gets out of the car and as a father there with his young daughter the man says 'em can we get a quick picture then in in sanders says if you can catch up with me an and i thought a you know sanders is really a has really worked hard to emphasize how vigorous he is seventy seven year old guy a in a any any kind of i think maybe playing that up a little bit is that is that what's going on here do you think a little bit i mean but the reality of this campaign in particular i happen to go in nashua over the weekend and he wasn't a parade in addition to several other things and they just it's sort of one thing to the next and they the the challenge and this is on one hand you have a lot of people who wanna see him have a photo with him talk to him an he's got a jam packed schedule of events and there's a certain point where if you're gonna get to the next place you have to stop get in the car and do that he does do a lot i mean i i i do think there is issue of people questioning whether it's tv or vice president joe biden their age but i think in terms of bernie's case it's just the practicality they're just always off to the place that that that bigger thing than he tries to a does i mean the guys in great shape about seventy seven he really a really taking good care of himself themes any sharp and he's physically fit and it's kind of amazing you know and and a a but but you know one of the i just saw i saw that it occurred to me that if he does that a lot and i think i've seen him do that before that same kind of thing they catch up with me sort of you know it's sort of a a meme almost with him a i i hope he never gets in a situation where he looks again in notices the person who is disabled or something that would be that'd be tough you know and i will say as a as a as a as a quick deter i will say what i have been impressed with with all of the candidates i believe it really does start bernie's campaign in a lot of other candidates are starting to emulate it when you go to one event if you're a senior or if you have any kind of physical challenge they will really work to take care of you to accommodate you and really does seem to be and i really do feel it starts with bernie's campaign an interesting recognition that they draw a whole different group of people of different ages different abilities and so they're very aware that they're very aware of really trying to accommodate people who may have some challenges whether it's getting there or seeing or hearing or whatever it is so if aside no it's it's amazing how the campaign is taking a notice of the fact that it's people come with a lot of different you know from different places and they want to accommodate them yeah well i you know and i think that that fitzy 'em that that sort of fits bernie's politics no worries premise is you know stand up for people who who maybe i started out in life a couple a couple of yards behind the starting blocks you know or wherever and so i think that probably they do consider that important in if they can keep that up pretty insistence consistently that probably works for them and a you know one of the things about sanders to is that is that he you were talking about his we were both talking about is somewhat a i dunno does not super warm personal style and there was another video near piece where somebody wanna he'll hold the baby he said he wants to fear of dropping the baby well and i have to say that one sort of interesting because he bounce out of his car and it was very clear he is aware that these other candidates are getting a lot of press the fact that they're doing selfies elizabeth warren for example now boast that she gets taken thirty thousand selfies on the campaign trail actually have a staffer who can set an pretty much if you go anywhere to elizabeth warren event in simply approach a staffer and say you want a selfie you'll get it they pride themselves on the fact that anybody who has some gets it and elizabeth warren making some headway way in terms of very similar message to bernie a at the same time she's really trying to make this personal hot so i do know the campaign the sanders campaign very much aware of that so bernie is in nashua he downs out of the car and announces anybody want a selfie which was surprising to the press corps who's used him sort of just moving onto the next thing and he was very friendly with taking selfies with a mazing parade of people drag queens or six foot three with beards and sequined dresses i mean you name it you know everybody was there an suddenly this woman comes up where they probably monster two year old baby and literally just pushes is it towards bernie and says when you hold my baby that was the moment where the bernie that a lot of people in vermont more recognizes he sort of said no i don't wanna drive as an end on one hand it couldn't fall tim because he was just being himself in that moment but yeah it's sort of also show that as much as they are trying to be a little bit more warm and fuzzy are that there are certain points where you know you have to be money yeah yeah well stylistic stuff is fascinating i do wanna get back though to be the sort of a little a little horse race stuff that the media early criticize were focusing on will get a kevin 'em this time there is a crowd in energy were saying early on conversation this morning a sanders is having a little bit more trouble really distinguishing himself his knee well i don't know if the problem is distinguishing himself i think people do know who he is and what he stands for i think the challenge lynch is especially in two thousand sixteen when he any end really was he only alternative to hillary clinton 'em i think people at the time sort of thought look at the support that he's getting 'em i think looking back for years now the question is what is he getting that support because of his programs are his policies are his proposals was he getting the support because of his politics or was he may be part of that support simply because people didn't wanna vote for hillary clinton a i think now the people have choices it's been interesting for reporters to be able to sit down and ask these questions in terms of how much of its past support what's coming for him versus how much this past support coming for he wasn't hillary clinton 'em i do know that he is pretty much holding onto his base there are so many other candidates who are not only speaking the same issues but are coming it's interesting i was at sea on the national prayed for example in the calmly harris crew was there they were very excited in terms of their debate standings they're getting people who often believing what bernie is talking about but wanna women want a woman as unity on both comma harris and cory booker are getting people who not only support their policies but it is very much an identity politics issue for some voters i've talked to a lot of women for example in new hampshire who say we like all the men but you know it's time for a woman yeah let me let me bring in a caller just promoting they're gonna wanna good morning jeff hey hey guys good morning 'em i guess i just wanna make the point that i believe the democratic nominate a nominee either not understanding is everybody get up on on the podium in an old were gonna do this and we're gonna do this and we're gonna change that and i think they're all forgetting that there are a lot lot of people like myself i don't associated with a certain party 'em i vote on on individuals and what i believe they can do and what they could bring and i i just don't think they're out there swaying bring us a no you know they're talking about all these people that voted for trump you know what we're gonna get people that are kind of you know we're gonna get the majority that didn't vote for him well they're gonna have to weigh those group of us that voted for him basically because we didn't wanna vote for hillary but i'm not hearing anything from any of the candidates that are any different than what she was campaigning on any different from what hillary clinton was campaigning on exactly oh well i mean that's where one example is this she ran on a you know a twelve dollar minimum wage and the kennedys this time retirement fifteen i don't know if that's enough of a difference where you see an end far as concern i don't see the fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage peachable you know we were talking about losing jobs the china and mexico and japan and stuff like that yeah i mean you you might not like somebody individual positions much but i mean in kevin huber you're more on top of this and i am helped me out here but i but i i i think that there are a number of folks in the race this time talking about things like a you know leader freer rashly we use college tuition repayments payments student loans that stuff i i did i don't recall hearing that from hillary clinton in sixteen was a in other other okay thanks john thanks for the call jeff well i do hear what the caller saying anything interesting amongst the tony something candidates on there are some candidates who are more progressive in their proposals and there are some kennedy tour more moderate or more centrist in their proposals are the ones that are getting more press are the ones who are more progressive seven their proposals on john delaney for example is eight former maryland congressman happens to be good friends with vermont's congressman peter welch he is actually visited new hampshire more than any other tony tony candidate he actually was the first to announce back in the summer of two thousand seventeen but when i tell people john delaney they go who under laney's issue is john delaney is a real moderate centrist democrat who really believe these have to be bread and butter economic issues andrew it's not necessarily for medicare for all is not necessarily for some of these other proposals a he is a little bit more sort of middle of the road but he isn't getting the press and he isn't getting the poll numbers to sort of get his proposals out there he's not alone so i do think there are some democrats who are talking sort of about this more middle ground issue you're just not hearing about them as much because a lot of energy and attention is going to a higher polling candidates who happened to be the progressive candidates i will say however also one of the challenges and this is these candidates running in the democratic democratic primary so they have the target their message right now to the democrats so they can then get to the general election so just as the republicans i think tend to sort of gravitate more for their base in their primary the democrats are now sort of tailoring message to their base in the primary i think this is all gonna shift when whoever is elected for the party nomination then moves forward so i think right now a lot of what you're hearing isn't necessarily joe biden's probably the one exception who's actually giving more of a general election message then i'm really trying a target voters who are of my party who i know are gonna come out and vote in new hampshire in february is is joe biden's front runners that it's gonna last all the way to the nomination you know it's interesting he came to new hampshire in april and he announced at that time that he was gonna be in new hampshire so much you're gonna be sick of him on his next visit is unscheduled now until the middle of july he comes he does swan event very small venue the press can get in in probably about a hundred or a hundred and fifty people he'll talk for a little bit of time and do some southeast and that'll be at a they're very strategic in in terms of bringing him in getting the press opportunity but you really don't if unless you're one of a hundred or a hundred and fifty people because they pick very small venue to put him in there really aren't a lot of opportunity stir interact with him and i do think that i understand strategically they're feeling is he's in the front runner status right now let's not put him in a position where he somehow trips up there are a lot of people in new hampshire the more i go over there who are starting to notice hey wait a second here you said you're gonna come all the time new hampshire has this weird i say weirdest the vermont tour on so i won't see are now but there's a sense of entitlement that not only did the kennedy tapped it come to your home town but they have become several times yeah before they actually even consider whether they will vote free or not so there is a little bit of a a nice uneasy feeling among some new hampshire democrats like where is joe biden 'em coming in april and now coming again you know in july for one town for one event isn't quite gonna do it so you out yeah i mean that that is interesting i i i wonder whether it's it's a gaffe protection strategy indefinitely or or whether it's a it's a stamina nothing i mean joe biden is another guy who's not a not a spring chicken and a maybe he doesn't have the same the same degree of bigger of a bernie sanders no i think it's a little bit of both there was a recent story in the new york times magazine where they're reporter had had been traveling with him and notice that what was happening was he was going to these events including the one that i went to in hampton new hampshire where he would say certain things that if you want it to take that sentence that paragraph you could make a pretty sensational story out of it now most of us who were reporters understood you know that he wasn't that he was putting a some sentences together and not necessarily recognizing that you might add something different than where he was intending to but i think the reporter was trying to say at a certain point a lot of people give joe biden the benefit of the doubt you know what he's trying to say it doesn't necessarily come out of his mouth that way but at a certain point some reporter or some person person with television or audio is gonna spicer stuff together put it out there the people and they're gonna go what in the world is he talking about in that little gaffe could be something much larger boy it in you know stuff does get a stunt does get a little bit mad at twisted around sometimes not necessarily intentionally but it's just people seize on a certain fraser something in a in a long interview and all the cabbie at the nuances disappear exactly and i mean i i thought this was the case yesterday with a debate questions from rachel matt over a for bernie sanders about you know you're as you're position changed from your your your view the state's oughta oughta handle gun gun issues now and if you listen to audio that two thousand thirteen tate a interview with seven days a he was saying back then that on on on things like the background checks and the straw man purchased straw purchases be a a the the federal government had a role so you know that wasn't quite a there's a little bit of a game of telephone there i thought but hey kevin o'connor unfortunately we're about out of time for this segment i really appreciate you joining 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a in a horse race here as he got a you got a good shot a medium shot amc losing his mojo a it's a very interesting time for him because you know if you watch the debate the other night in which he appeared john margolis politically columnist roe v dig it out or kevin interesting piece where he basically said and this is my assessment is well it must say that bernie sanders didn't really lose much grounded in there aren't any major gas any real problems with his did debate performance but he he did not a heated not really make any breakout performance either he actually a a delivered is pretty much just stump speech and in little pieces answers to debate questions he a you know have this this leftist critique of american society in which a the rich and powerful get away with everything in the rest of the folks out here are basically left us we've all heard it a million times were bernie sanders those those certainly who watch his career in vermont and then watched him on the presidential campaign trail both in twenty sixteen in now and a question is you know i'm i'm i'm looking at this and i'm thinking to myself essentially they're they're the democratic party is sort of split between the moderates the sort of old hillary clinton wing now you might call the joe biden wing of the party a in in in these progressive or or the more leftist democrats who this time out in include a you know not just the bernie sanders but but even kamala harris and in a healthy gabbert in and accusing jila brand a a a beta o'rourke there's all there's a bunch of andy what may be happening to some extent is that a deal they left side of the pies being cut into smaller pieces just because there are more people stepping up their run with a what used to be sanders agenda and now now he is a sharing his agenda and a go at some point in their life he he may he may decide he actually has made a contribution by by promoting that agenda and getting others to pick it up on the other hand he also 'em is a a someone who clearly would like do like the beauty of these standard bearer of the others agenda and a maybe maybe if it's not him that could be a real a real disappointment to him so let's see how all of this unfold but i think the the the the sanders right now is in a very different place and he was in in twenty sixteen a i'm not sure really which is better in terms of it being twenty sixteen of course he was they ended up being the main alternative to hillary clinton and then he felt as though a in his complained about this recently actually that the campaign they democratic nomination process was a somehow rigged against him obviously originality agents at the party was not particular fair and was a was supporting clinton throughout the be a sixteen 'em be sixteen nominating nominating process and will we will see how it unfolds here a different it's a different game for sure when is that many more players in if we have a caller on line what's gonna be in newport dave good morning how are ya excellent nicely here drills voice in the morning on wbz hey i i when when you were off a couple of weeks on you're sick leave a kevin was on an end i spoke with him it was about the same time that a biden head i think it might have been the same morning that he had announced his presidency can't go in for the beat the president's andy and i i was very disappointed about that announcement i'm gonna talk about bernie but his announcement you know what's on that false narrative about charlottesville and i mean he really went after trump i mean i anyways i don't wanna get into it and talking about bernie very interesting that the way kevin was talking about the personalization that warren does an i noticed on a on a pole and i'm not a big guy from polls although i do like pull these people but but because i am a bullish person okay but she snuck in she's number three now it's a biden that slipped like ten points and dennis harris harris harris went up the second and she was down in single digits tonight think she's about fifteen after her perform dennis warren and then it's bernie bernie is number four bernie's batting cleanup but you know obviously he slid he slipped hey you've been around can you give little bit of history of when bernie was you know a member of the house of representatives in all pretty much did he get votes from the whole state i mean or or is it just you know the change in town it always puts in overall pretty famous actor you were in vermont vermont political context for picking up some some you know a fair amount of support in the these kingdom in other parts of the state did you wouldn't think would automatically be you know certainly not they're not full limousine liberals are anything in a bernie sanders i think as a certain appeal to the working class people that's that's clearly there at the center of his of his ideology and he he he he's picked up quite a quite a bit of a void you look at the election breakdown over the years a just on his runs for congress in the usa and and where they're coming from around vermont you'll see is winning winning towns in the rural parts of the state and so it's not just the shooting in washington women county phenomenon is people want suspect so obviously he had he had wide support yeah i'm not a i'm not a gambler but i'm gonna tell you right now i if if i was i put my money this is this is gonna be the democrats running against trump it's gonna be be harris for the presidency and it's gonna be mayor pete that's it that's it i'm telling you that so it's gonna be very harrison it'll be the ticket harrison in a bully judge says interview oh he he will he will yeah yeah but hey you gotta start looking into in in in mayor pete talks a bottom all atop about his his significant other studies mary to buddha judge stuff on the internet now here's an analog guy living in a digital world and i'm talking about the internet but what i understand is all his stuff is pretty clean you know it's all been wiped clean but his significant others this all out there somebody's gotta go after that stuff well i a not familiar with what you're what you're referring to them and i'm talking to his wife is his name yes yes people whose husband you don't know much about that a in any way in an age you know i i think there's a there's a there's a place where you say a let's talk about the politicians doing and what the politicians of the positions are in various issues he's a family member is there a unless they're gonna be appointed in some senior white house position talks about a lot you bring up is because he brings up a lot that's the first thing he talked about in in that in that a a debate that he was involved yeah well i you know i i am i am in familiarize myself with anything relating to the history of hey dan who's that guy that lost a reagan in eighty four who's a democrat who is that it only one michigan mondale okay that's gonna be the same thing all over again in twenty twenty brother i'm sorry but that said okay well thanks for the call the hey a two four four one seven seven seven is the local number here in waterbury one eight seven seven two nine one eight two five five and a is all this a running around by the democrats were not maybe he's right maybe that a a the democrats are gonna win one state in a in twenty twenty and then and the donald trump will run away with a reelection victory like we've never seen before a in who knows what the russia's help anything's possible 'em so what a what a folks think out there i'm curious to know how how you see a presidential field shaping up after last week's debates a comma harris certainly seems to have taken away a bite out of joe biden and a in in a that's that's something that's worth remarking on is she doing well enough to get get your attention listeners are you interested in calmly harris now as they as they as a democratic nominee for president twenty twenty a do you think that a joe biden still has it or do you think that it's all it's all for not in that we're gonna have a a we're gonna reelect donald trump easily is as a z from newport i tell this let's go to 'em sam in 'em i'm gonna get my my my good buddy joel year to my handwriting isn't it will it will extend okay salmon relisting good morning morning i think they're saint louis seal the win the ask a question should i mean you you would support a medical care for he legal immigrants and people crossing the border and come into the country and every one of the ways her hand yeah you gotta go back to to a go of it could be a senior moment here because i'm not gonna come up with a name like he will be a monetary fund guy back in the day a say you've got two options you have a open borders but you can't have open a systems and can't handle socialism be given to you got one of the other you're you're you're country and people at it and you keep it in if you know you can't have any other so we make a decision wide open borders watch socialist a yeah you know i i i heard that and i said why these democrats they're they're trying to be the biblical party you know a lot of famous line about i was hungry and you gave me something to eat i was thirsty and he gave me something they drink hours a stranger and you took me in and maybe if you took me in sticky to committed good medical care of me i i dunno i you know we've been doing this all of this stuff we've been taking care people glucose we've we've guilt foreign aid you don't see russia and china in in and these people going into countries and doing the things that we do really guy and i don't think we do it i don't think we really do it sure we might have some motivation in there but i think for the most part when things go bad were the first ones to show up you know they got a new guy in el salvador came out and said hey we help you help them get independence is long as american independence and they swabbed they have their leaves that they don't care about the people they they struck a primary thing for the country so it's time you know we put them on notice and say hey listen you need take care painful but they need to run you're touches properly yeah we we split it with catherine we shouldn't do it unfortunately when rolled back archie people the people we serve everybody everybody got it now sam thanks for the call let's go to de in duxbury deed morning do you witness but when i just sad with the russia's help maybe trump couldn't win i mean come on that's really that's low only one election using take the russian helping twenty sixteen most i dunno seventeen usa intelligence agencies think russia helped write an end they interfere with our elections always that's what they're about you remember eating any new stories there anything on interference with the two thousand four election it got the president's bush reelected no i don't know what he's saying they always interfere in our elections what do you mean member there a lot of doubt that press stuff kerry we don't know do you remember weeding about while you may be a little you're little younger and i am a about jfk in the white house i know those decades ago but him marilyn monroe i mean come on there's things we don't know that are covered by the press you know and were more open now and things are grabbed onto and that's a good thing i'm you know i'm just saying that you did so low it's a low blow like as if he's not a legitimate president now there are people and you know you heard some famous people people lots of money yeah said if he is surprise and then i'm leaving the states who left the united states i don't know why am i i have not no no i know i know you have i'm not saying that i'm saying famous people wealthy people said on leave no you you you were annoyed me for saying when russia is helping anything is possible yeah it's yeah and that's kind of scenario agree but what russians did help and tony sixteen seventeen u s and telling these these these all were in agreement about that and i dunno if if if all seventeen intelligence agencies are wrong so he so it's not a legitimate the president is that what you're saying 'em really i mean well of course you have the factor hillary clinton as you won by almost three million votes all right and we have electoral college for states so i you know i guess if you add up the russians help andy electoral college which is a in anachronism and should probably go away a i i think that a there's a real question about these legitimacy of his prime and then yes yes well then why is he felt path that i mean why haven't a what ten time from california who said in k h a easy answer for you man he's still present 'cause we ever republicans that so now so the beecham in a in a in a new york minute if we had a democratic senate then convicting but because we are republican senate the house is saying we take our time is up there's not gonna be convicted in the senate so be idea of sending his impeachment papers over in the senate is probably not really knock knock knock it out so i don't think it's good it's good and i don't know what's good for the whole clinton impeachment either for the country i mean i don't think it's a good idea unless the president has done some you we shot somebody ori poisons and whatever committed a a major crime i don't think it's a good idea the impeachment i just don't you know not everybody in vermont and i know this is a this might be a surprise to you but not everybody vermont is against trump no i i know that that's not a surprise me i mean i think a lot of the callers to are show or bars supportive of the president's for sure by any it's done a lot of this country what do you what do you to his favorite things have you done to this country he's a brought up patriotism i think i mean i grew up in a military family and i was also and they army 'em he's a lower the unemployment rate i mean you gotta you know maybe not in every single community but the country as a whole even here in vermont unemployment rate is very low yeah there's maybe maybe an interview some some some businesses too long because they're having trouble hiring people but you know and you know why they're having trouble dave i mean have you thought about i'm sure i talked about it demographic yeah sure yeah it's it's really yeah he i think the call i appreciate your point of view and listen you know as i say listen this all the time i welcome all points of view and the gresh show here on wbz so you know it's an important conversation i i do a voice and opinion now and then i do also realize i hope mainly on facts and i think in terms of that that's a bit of a the wise crack about russia it was based on the fact that seventeen you us intelligence agencies agencies have told us that that russia helped elect trump in twenty sixteen a in a in the campaign and you know it's clearly on the wreckage of the campaign a welcome to that help and a a you know a donald trump got up there in the stop and said russia confined hillary clinton's emails please do something words to that effect so there you go but thankfully call i appreciate a d and it's always good talking with you let's go to jim in berry good morning jim just quick comments a simple one bernie sanders all his original election to congress to be an array i mean i think he probably would have gone had a career after that but i don't think he would have been elected that gearhead dna not targeted peter smith and that was a big deal at the time bernie sanders did have a statewide a recognition yellow point as on the seventeen agency saying that a rush of helped elect trump i read article just recently about that specifically saying i don't remember where it was just one more article that i read but it was specifically confirming that seventeen agencies did in fact weigh in on that but what they weighed in on one of those trump oh there was russian operations going on what's facebook's promoting trump and and they they were definitely a in his corner firm what they were doing a in sort of a a bird way but agencies specifically said they don't have any proof that influence the election it was just one more voice out there that was promoting trump's been into you know to say the the russia i mean i thought that was a low blow up to and i'm not a trump supporter when you set that but but you know you could do it out you know a someone that was against a let's say hillary and they had a website or they had some kind of a baseball thing and you know if if she like she could blame it on the while the they were the ones the cars that solve and i'd say that very clearly more basically saying just because if there's an advocacy group out there doesn't mean the theatrical seats point of view was the one that prevailed or or cars steve de actual out so i'll leave it at that but basically i thought that was a kind of a cheap shot itself it was a deer intellectual level discussions with a wise crack see now is the spirit in which would have delivered in if you dig into the low ball i apologize but i you know i mean i i mean i i agree with the little snarky i think it was a in the range of in the range of a except the discourse i'm gonna i'm gonna defend it that way he just said something yet real quick acceptable discourse maybe that's where i'm reacting to it i think it's time everybody the tone down don't be taking jabs at the ball and try to figure out understand what someone else's point of view isn't try my dad always said try to see these other guys point of view you know when you're throwing too many busy throwing jobs all it does is inflame playing the situation we the tone it down all the way around the nation yesterday rams all right well thank you for the call jim i presented by hey we gotta go to a top of the hour break but some cbs news on the dave ramsey show w d b fm and am and the will be back with more of the show after that i wish i had a dollar forever compliment i get a better selection upstairs at the orange store the seasons collection both country casual clothing for men and women dresses summer weddings and events baby clothing from china went to an unfair fair trade jewelry from around the world i'm excited about a new line of pottery from legendary vermont also illuminated paper stars for outdoor fun it's a great day trip to warn pillage comforter lunch on the deck and upstairs some unique retail therapy fun fucking let's welcome back to the dave ramsey show on wgn tv fm hey how we are back in a continuing in their program for this tuesday morning july second two thousand and in nineteen and a half elected you after the imaging michio news break we go to one of are correspondence with talk media news and they fill us in on what's happening around the country and around the world and today i believe we have tom switch area with us good morning tom good morning you do have me there we go in a tell me a little bit about two tanks on the mall yeah how about that that's something i never thought i'd see here in washington now i realize i'm not going to overdramatize situation but clearly the july fourth celebration this year in washington dc is not gonna be like this could not be like any others i've seen here a we're gonna have some tanks and other armored equipment probably on the mall i think they're going on platforms announces damage the ground they're not gonna be in the parade we're gonna have a military flyover during the parade in ceremony at president trump speaking the lincoln memorial jimmy counter protesters not just on july fourth i i learned this morning there'll be protests and demonstrations throughout the weekend following it so it's gonna be a completely different atmosphere here for independence day than it has been in a what's behind this i mean why why is it why is it happening yeah because president trump bastille day parade you know two summers ago in france and ever since then he's won and had his own military parade in that has been denied him in part because of the cost would the district columbia would charge the government for a secretary mattis says the former defense secretary slow walk be idea little bit because he wasn't a big fan of big fan of it and so there's been ways to you know for this desire of the president's well now he's just imposed himself as he can and being the president's by saying he's gonna speak at the lincoln memorial in ordering a tanks to the city and ordering the flyover it's kind of out of the control of anybody else this point he's he's calling show on record scranton the vip section when he space the lincoln memorial so you and i will maybe you but certainly i couldn't go there the tickets they're being handed out by the white house so it's gonna have a partisan rally flavor to it yeah i know i wonder now is he 'em i just heard on the cbs news at there's a plan for air force one to participate in the flyover easily the president is on is on board when that plane is aloft is is that gonna be the case or is he gonna be mommy ground you know as i understand it hey one of the planes that can be used for air force one a one place you can be used for the present is gonna be part of this flyover that's correct just so listeners understand the designation of air force one that's not one airplane in particular not one aircraft wherever playing the president's flying on is the code air force one right okay all right so he doesn't have to if he's on the plane if sorry if he's not on the plane it's not technically air force one plane used by the president that often as air force one okay so there'll be a plane flies overhead the does sometimes is used as air force one a gathering while he's a threat i mean they play i mean it's not like it's a fake plane just you know it's the same who either have to make news the big players but you know i think there's there's actually at least two two of them you know one at least two maybe three so if it'd be one of those okay oh those are the blue angels the navy you know air the air demonstration team and there'll be part of it in some other aircraft at i have in the pentagon hasn't quite is not quite releasing that yeah you know they have finalized 'cause he fails were not what a what a you know i i sense it there are some misgivings beings shall we say about this from various quarters what what are the misgiving some of the forests what part of it part of the misgivings is that for i moved here in nineteen seventy nine so you know you could it's more thirty years on and off living in dc i mean i used to have very very close in the mall i level and the potomac river walk to the mall and museums all the time it's a very non partisan party and i mean that is such a small teen political party party you know much like enjoyment in a smaller town whereas whereas community parade and all that is a parade there's events on the mall is often there is a concert my first game of the beach boys would sing for example as we talked about before you into a long day of of techniques and friends and then it's culminated by league national symphony concert at the capitol that coincides then at the end of the constant with the fireworks marino and part of sunday so there's a lot of misgivings about now changing the tone of that it's that's a big misgiving second is the fact that the new now have a i've chosen few who get to attend a political rally on the fourth of july on at the lincoln memorial in the national mall which is the antithesis of what they national celebration and the mall has been for decades so there's a lot of unhappiness and of course the misgivings come to the military aspects of the parade which is often the case even though we've had military parades in this country forever a it's not pretending we do not but the but the that has a lot of people uneasy with the display of tanks you know in an aircraft on a date of celebrating are independence in ideals of america as opposed the necessary military muscle america yeah i i i remember seeing pictures when i was a kid of tanks rolling through red square in moscow a that was a sort of a i dunno a very common a yes mamer whenever i dunno if they had means mac add names that and i'm not sure how old you are by at least twenty two so yeah that's true and so maybe even the wrong word but appreciate it let's call it a but a it it it it it it did feel like that's something pretty foreign it in something they do over there in russia and a a a in and it was sort of something that was shown i think to americans in part to kind of emphasize a foreign in in sort of weird that all in a bit of division this division between showing weapons as you pointed out and russia and north korea and china in their parades there so there is this a powerful we are we sure weapons memorial day parades independence day parades others have often say often including military units not just military band but military units and that seems fine that seems appropriate there are part of the fabric of why we are independent free you know and people applauding plot in salute them you know the individuals troops as opposed to the weapons of war and there's a difference in the minds of many people between those two well you know i i guess c m a i want to see sort of how this unfolds in and how it is played i i i don't know whether a people end up concluding that it was in good enough tasted it wasn't didn't offend these sort of older sensibilities or or a or not i mean i i don't know exactly how you will see how see what happens in yeah i particularly concerned about me what what the spin offs could be a mess in the in showing days as he said earlier with the demonstrations and counter demonstrations taking to the streets i think that you know it's very hot and humid in washington now it's summertime and that makes people even more edgy and you know a lot of people are coming in these groups that are have been for vox provoking trouble with other cities and so i'm just concerned about how that spillovers gonna be ignited perhaps by what happens on july fourth making a joke about fireworks either you know i'm not serious about this yeah yeah i get you all right well tom's criteria thank you so much for joining me this morning in if we don't talk before you have a great fourth of july in a thank you i hope you are you gonna be in washington for it oh yeah i'll be here all right well i i wanna the full report next time we talk okay very good all right thanks tom one into a invite a three guests onto the program this morning all on the telephone and i hope we have good cellular phone connection this this is a this segment is gonna be about broadband internet maybe another one will devote to a cell phone coverage depending on how this one goes about that but one of the welcome to the program evan carlson he is in in a very involved in a a new effort to bring about eight communications union district in the northeast kingdom involving ten immunities up there they're hoping that they can get broadband internet up and running in the northeast came to vermont a within a year or so we have jeremy hansen who is would be a central vermont internet also a communications union district serving be a more in the central part of the wd v listening area or hearing the people you're berlin area and and also joining us from southern vermont we have laura civilian she's a state rep from dover angie is it been heavily involved in trying to promote legislation to help bring about broadband internet to rural parts of vermont i wanna welcome off review the program this morning day hey let me start with you evan if i could evan carlson 'em tell me about the project you have a year you're launching up there in the kingdom sure so this was something that was a really kicked off by he committed a community visit process the vermont a council and the real world development puts on a couple of years ago and a we we pulled together kind of a economic development committee or group focused on a number of different initiatives and 'em through that we ended up applying for usa year real business development grant which actually helped us fun in the process of a feasibility study that ended up a pointing us and direction of the formation of a cd 'em so that was a last year that we'd start that process and in march was one that final court was rolled out which gave us that recommendation 'em in the region where i am a i am based in london and sudden area and we have a you know the benefit of having been involved electric as a public utility and if you have not heard one of the kind of benefits of a public utility is a lot of times you'll see successful broadband projects a writing or utilizing be infrastructure that public utility has in place 'em so that was one of the things we really want to explore through this feasibility study and that's not something where you gotta be pursuing glenville electric today but communication in district is are next best step to move for so the idea initially wants to say hey we have this a rural electric cooperative and then there are there's probably some shared dna between the whole idea of rural electric cooperatives of course were launched i think back in the nineteen thirties he's as a way to get electricity out to the inter lens of the united states throughout the country really and folks who said why don't we try something similar with a with internet end but it's it sounds like he didn't quite make that connection so far in this matter right yeah so you know none of electric it's a little bit different than a co op in that it actually is owned by the village of lyndon ville 'em sunday are eight a separate entity from be a seven communities us around but they are the primary 'em electric utility for those seven communities so you know for them they definitely see the value in it and they also have plans to develop smart great technology infrastructure to be able to support smart grid but for them they have a number of other projects that are paying projects they need a focus on the foreseeable future yeah so taking not taking on the the level of effort that would be required in building fiber infrastructure for a a different service altogether edge a pretty heavy lift them it's not gonna happen right now okay so you said well okay let's try this southern style under center approach here which is to say a communications you need district we've seen it a i guess the first real example example of get off the ground and be successful with easy fiber a somewhat south of where you are over and the eastern side of vermont though a more like orange county's a an end was that a model for you that was honored percent a model and you know i'd had some conversations with carolina row who runs easy fiber and she had been really helpful and guiding us the you know giving us all the real information around the struggles and challenges looks forming you see fiber and then the benefits of cbd and so it seemed like a pretty a straightforward nextstep i mean ultimately there was a recommendation the feasibility study also a have conversations with providers and are area but in fact some larger telecom providers no matter what conversations we have is not gonna be something that is you know in the best interest of their shareholders which is i think a core what a lot of the the challenges was bringing fiber to the area yeah i mean that that's a it's getting to be an old story now but i mean it just a just a sort of refresh folks my understanding is that a lot of the private companies out there who have the answer to shareholders are looking for a certain profit margin in you get that by having a certain number of customers customers per mile of line let's say if that's if that's the proper unit of measurement and when you when you fall below that certain number of customers a you know they usually a the formula doesn't work anymore absolutely i think that you know you see fiber they have a as i understand they are profitable in some capacity but they're doing a fourteen drops per mile on average in out of that mile they have six customers on average so that kind of gives us a little bit of a and understanding as the how things should function in a lot of the communities it they're serving are as rural as the northeast kingdom so if they're able to do that they're successfully and i think that it's certainly a repeatable model 'em in have you come up with a number of drops or customers per line per mile on line and it's always the the the break even in the threshold here oh i think you know for us that's still something that needs to be discovered in somebody's 'em future conversations were having around the actual communication union district 'em when we go through the process of developing a business plan in the next three to six months well i have a better idea as to how that should look in a break even is gonna actually look like and what it will get there you know i think one of the important questions to ask is you know a i think you know is in this day and age is broadband really a necessity or a luxury and if we all believe in twenty nineteen every household should have some access access to a high speed internet than it shouldn't really matter how many drops we have per mile and how soon the breakeven ended i mean the the public utility service and the a in the early nineteen hundreds when they ran electric every rural community that wasn't a question of whether you know is gonna be profitable and i are not a question of is needed to survive an age yeah for sure let me bring in lawrenceville you hear a state representative from dover a more of a a tell me about the there is legislation that was passed this year to try to a basically promote this dear tell us about that well good morning thank dave in we did pass legislation that is looking to really ship a shift how we look at anzio west broadway and expansion in vermont a really starts a place of acknowledging that broadband is in fact critical infrastructure in not just required freakonomics gross at first public safety education healthcare government access we know as you as you pointed you know are national providers have not found in his profitable to build us infrastructure out but we also know in the last mile right now a key the key communications infrastructure is the legacy copper network from the phone companies that's out there and we have fewer and fewer people supporting the copper network as a more densely populated areas have more and more choices for 'em song using the internet and so i think we we've helped the sense of urgency around rural vermont 'em losing what they have never mind not being able to access a high speed internet a modern modern healthcare mater call for an end certain certainly it seems as though there's a lot of talk about trying to have this remote worker program now and reminded other economic development a conversation going on around how do we a in handsy ability of people to living make a make a living in are rural communities around the state a it's easily this is they just a really key piece of that i can't lower not going to say deacon amick grousing areas that are not connecting mean that's just that's just a a a a a a fact that people are not able to act stuff 'em they're just not able to access a the modern conference which is digital not able to accept government services astounded off so a you know the notion of meeting that to grow the rural economies is absolutely is absolutely a real one on this bill that we put forward is really intended to help folks like evan 'em you know get this done is one of the tools that we think folks are are needing you know how could we support you in planning this process out since you probably don't have telecommunications npr's living in your area and then a what is the financing tools that are needed to get this done so soon detail there more 'em in terms of you know the money worked in the bill so i will comprehensive leave the money or there are some one time funds in here that have been set aside for broadband innovation grant a or or planning grants really these are for communications union districts to assess the situation on the ground a do some surveying establish 'em plans for building out a mad and produce a requirement correspondent of those grants eight a financing's model to get this not there a number of different a final pieces here including an increase in vermont universal service fond of point four percent which will put a roughly a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year into that kind of liberty initiative builder grass their match grant 'em that are just tablet established 'em sonar peace process there awarded to another peace process on and more 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this part of the state and a and then it evan carlson is involved in an effort to launch a similar communications union district in the northeast kingdom let me bring jeremy ended the conversation here and give us an update jeremy if you would about where your project is short thanks dave so we have seventeen communities in central vermont in a boy washington in orange county's and you started last year after a twenty twenty eighteen town meeting vote added a couple more times after that and we're in the process of were waiting on some grants and looking forward to taking advantage of veto veto loan programs that represented a civilian just mentioned 'em in hoping to start construction in probably are southern most towns like roxburgh northfield williamstown 'em were hoping next year and i wanna say one of the things i really appreciate about the build up most recently passed was first of all essentially unanimous in the legislature which we don't get that terribly often but also is it really offers kind of a hand hold to any step of the process wherever you are in the process of wanting to bring broadband cheer community whether you're just thinking about it whether you're ready to start you know actually you know going into any feasibility study like everyone's talking about or whether you're at the point where we are where we're you know will be writing a business plan in the next few months a ability study in the next few months and then you know looking at looking hard at you know getting the loan getting the funding actually go string a fiber on poles germany when when do you think that the people in say northfield field will will be able to fire it up and start using the services provided that we get the loan in everything falls into place as as i'm kind of predicting in my mind i'm expecting tony tony ended tony tony okay so year year and a half from now basically yeah maybe a that time of year people will be getting a new computers of the holidays and thinking about one year system in be rarely go and that'll be sure i'm sure a lot of people you know if it all works in those well a lot of people will be very happy to have a better a good solid internet access which is something that those who have it i think tend to take it for granted i think a lot of a lot of people in vermont who are areas that are already servative reasonably decent high speed internet except those days when there's a glitch in the system and it goes down and boy then you hear about it wow yeah well one of the things you mentioned the forwards you know how how do we know what those numbers are hunters that worked out you know the the numbers i'm working from is as works you know looking at actually doing the construction of based a lot on you see fibers numbers which is you know what i've been talking about before but you know how how'd you get to that you know we still have to have a self sustaining business model this is not something that is gonna have tax plowed into it you know in in propping up year after year we still essentially half the design a way for us to get the revenues to pay the bills and to keep you know keep everything maintain so when we say we need you know six subscribers per mile and meet i kind of understand the cost of you know how much does it cost how many people do you need to maintain its 'em what's the construction and a you know all of these engineering costs what is that look like we know that fairly well i mean ships year to year and it always sort of you know inevitably creeps up but we have a reasonably good idea of of what those costs are so we can predict that really well then tell me a little bit about how you how you view a jeremy hanson a you know if there's a cautionary tale about a public attempt to bring in high speed internet telecom services in vermont it's probably burlington telephone burlington telecom and a a what lessons were learned from that in a is is that at all you know you know did you not giving anybody pause on shore but so i i wanna point out first at burlington telecom is still serving thousands and thousands of customers with extremely high speed internet service no matter what their you know financial travails were in the past and built into state law that allows communications team in districts to be created is essentially a clause in there that would prevent us from going the way of burlington telecom we cannot news how monday 'em in are operation so sometimes you see at the end of your a town meeting ballot you know there's this organization in that organization asking for some supplementary funding right by you know in in berlin where i'm on the board we've scott you know probably a dozen of those intellectually prohibited by law for communications you need districts to go and do that and be idea there was that you know even when even though the third towns that will say you know we wanna make sure you succeed see we wanna supplements you're hurting funds a i have to tell them no because it would be against the law firm do that so no i mean when when that communications union district laws passed they they understood where burlington telecom did it wrong and they made sure just simply closed that option and so no i'm i'm really confident that because we have to operate as independent business and can never look forward to being propped up by a local taxpayer dollars we necessarily have to go about this conservatively and you know build it like a start up yeah in in in that that is an interesting approach it's it's it's it's a fairly stringent bar for you to have a clear but i couldn't i couldn't understand why a that also probably enhanced it's a politically peel away in the legislature in in in among some of the community's air serving where you know the first thing you're gonna hear just without anybody really knowing the details is gonna be some skepticism about what's it gonna cost us you know short almost any proposal in in in in in here you have that installation yeah in one of the benefits for us you know creating the internet service provider as a communications union district versus some other other format is that you get local accountability we have every town has since one representative tuesday in our case rcb fiber governing board and if you wanna go on orca media dot net and watch all of aro meetings were required to abide by the same transparency and openness that select border other municipal organizations are required to benefits that we get through that that is that once we have sort of some established financials we can then go up to the municipal bond market it's rather favorable rates to continue are construction in her third and fourth year it is is that is that a real key to to your model for success here i mean is your business plan really depend on that lowcost running thing i wouldn't say it depends on it it just makes it much much cheaper for you know the residents are gonna take advantage of the service i mean people will still pay a monthly rate like you would any other internet service provider but essentially get us to the point where we can put a fiber on the polls you somebody needs to pay for that first and then and then we would essentially be looking at revenue bonds that would allow us to say allows the tell a banker and investor okay so we're gonna string the fiber but we know we have this many subscribers fibers so give us the money in advance of us you know having a having subscribers in the next five ten years paying their monthly rate which is part gonna be part of are loan application coming soon and part of art a bon issuing process once they get to that in a few years now one day i have heard about down from folks who are closer to the industry that i am for sure i'm not closed at all actually but it is that a they're having some issues with the actual string of the fiber in places where incumbents including electric utilities end end incumbent telecom carriers have been a maybe a little bit reluctant to cooperate operate with a this process called make ready were polls are basically supposed to be able to accommodate the new fiber optic cables by a certain date and then those dates tend to slide a i s i know we easy fibers run into some of that or is that something that's let me ask you a dress the laura laura did you are you familiar with this issue and this is something that the legislature and help to a clear up yes we have heard quite a bit about the mizzou and we put in place a requirement of the pc to revise their cool attachment rules to include one touch macready policy it's a it's really designed to minimize delays across we have a fiber providers that you could pay in advance for a disease that fiber could be attached to these calls and we've heard in some cases of some pretty significant delays to be fair you know some of the utility issues that arise are 'em you know you could have pretty tremendous storms in and other and other things but we think that they're certainly a way to improve this process of it quickly they really a one touch macready policy in maine which starts envisioning some fine which has never been you know once you kind of established we really need some more accountability around this it tends to help move without did it starts to clear up a problem in advance of needing to issue any fines or whatever it sounds like exactly yeah and then it will what is the source of the reluctance is it is it is still the competitiveness your there's some incumbents who were saying listen we're gonna get to this somebody we want these customers were us or what's going on out there yeah no i think i think there's a ball and he says both 'em you know in terms of you know we have electric utilities a who are not necessarily competing except for you know times their own pray with their own priorities what you know what the telephone companies sure you know we're looking at a four looking at potential head to head competition here as i noted a you know are with her with her cop are a landmine provide so is there is there is a money making opportunity here for let's say these electric utilities i mean when when when christine hawk was running for governor she was talking a lot about you know the potential synergy here in is that helping anywhere so that's another piece of the bill has been included were at the chronicle books there were still look at the feasability of having are electric utilities on get into the broadband expansion business we think they're definitely car i'm synergies that's something you're seeing across the country more and more exploration in this area a that's also a system that is really transforming at this you know at this point we're looking at six and wires have been both communication in a and a energy distribution mechanism in both of those systems systems are changing so we think that they're definitely could be and utilities were a big part of helping us draft this bill as well in a in terms of v a the end result here how confident are you lower the vermont is gonna really catch up with his state of the art here and become a leader in this instead of a sort of a foot draggers i am fairly confident knowing how vermont earth you know responded challenges and what we've done really is giving them the green light instead 'em you know you could do this an error tools that help you we see time and time again when we monitor face challenges that they're innovative in that can do spirit will come forward we really are the one key piece that is a you know that were waiting to find out who will be be having carlson's the jeremy hanson's in the places that have not yet organize themselves into cds you know where i'm from in southern vermont we the delegation here will be looking to help support those key folks on and win meant anything counties that we know that there are other places in vermont so you know if we have those folks step forward i think there is just absolutely is a is a way for us to solve this issue for good resume gonna be hearing about new cds tinted windows counties laura i so i certainly hope so okay so it sounds like you may have some thoughts there which you are not ready for primetime show say that right not quite not quite we have folks that circling around trained oregon evan carlson by the way you have been what is the what is the name of the group in the kingdom is doing this now 'em we'll have it official name okay but i would say that you know were were were focusing on any came broadband to be able to be as broad as possible because you know when you look at the any k the three counties that kind of make that up all that run into the same a problems across the board as far as connectivity so the one thing that was brought up in last week's any came broadband some if that was put on by any k collaborative and catherine simms was the idea of potentially breaking out any k in the two different distinct she needs to really be able to serve a the brought us group of kelly's and communities across their 'em but a yeah i would say that there is there's not enough official name of art group quite yet i i saw me to do good work at a ten towns are currently contemplated is being part of part of is a a yeah this district yep so we have a really great group of people come to the table i mean kind of echoing what lawrence said it's all about the feet on the ground and the resources and tools the state and federal a and giving us to be able to move this record but without representatives from towns we wouldn't be moving this at the base it we are are currently we have representatives from linden ville sutton sheffield newark wheelock east burke burke has a whole east haven kirby saint john's married danville 'em in burn so and i already have emails were so folks or interest in expanding their town those well literally it's gonna come down to sorry go ahead the water folks in something sheffield etc dewey pre internet service right now so as as a resident of sutton i am about a one point eight miles away from the closest a high in quote speed internet option and i am stuck with a satellite which 'em you know the the prices about two times what are you paying her residential service in most suburban areas and i have extreme latency and i'm also throttled after the use of fifty gigabytes of service which i say a designer and web developer 'em i certainly can utilize that fifty gigabytes pretty quickly yeah i think you have some frustrating times they're waiting wild wild stuff loads of whatever is that right yeah absolutely and you know wouldn't be other things like i run a co working space a called co working in linen bill which actually serves to kind of alleviate some of the pain of working on satellite internet myself also for a lot of the community members who were running into the same issues we've seen it really surprising amount of people that are working remotely for larger companies outside of the orders of vermont and are able to bring their jobs with them but they run into this challenge data day where you know the internet service they have at home insufficient expensive conduct video conferencing or be able to transfer a large files back and forth so a temporary stopgap in some of videoconferencing really is i mean you know ten years ago that was considered pretty cutting edger maybe fifteen years ago now but but a but these days that's that's kind of expected that mean you're you're you're all these services out there zoom and others which are are set up to allow people to do this a and if you are in an office in new yorker boston a in you wanna have a staff meeting virtual staff meeting a you are expecting the staff the show up and if one of your staff members were losing sutton vermont a in in it's a real issue than a breakdown they're really right on resent i mean that that is a unique challenge and certainly one that you know it's it's not gonna be appreciated by the the the board in new york city they're not gonna they're not gonna understand the pain point that we experienced a living in rural in remote location or i'm gonna ask one question here which i almost words entertainment value but we'll see if the three of you wanna take it take a swing it as intern with any room or possibility for maybe one town in vermont or one one little area where i i could imagine maybe they're being a resort there in the whole marketing pitch of the thing is we are disconnected we have no cell phone service no internet service in hey boss i'm going on vacation for a week after this place and guess what in can't get a hold of me when i'm on vacation what do you what do you what do you what do you make of that laura civilian would that would that be a selling point for something someday a show are you know i think it's it may be a resort setting you could see you could see that you know sure yeah what what what am i what am i you ever do you have any thoughts on such an idea yeah i mean i think there's there's already a lot of people that benefit from that and the northeast kingdom but the whole thing out there but i mean i yeah i'll tell you he only reason i ask is because i i a i i i am a very aware of a of employers who who just sort of assume even though you are technically on vacation you're gonna be reachable at all hours of the day in at night and a an end it's a you know they're back and they officer and they don't really care the joe's on vacation this week and gee whiz you gotta keep up with their email and a a in etc that's all that's all as far as i'm going into that but there are times when when there is a feeling like boy i wish i could just really really disconnect per week and go on vacation like we used to you know in the old days you go out in the woods of staying a little cap go fishing or something in and that was that you were out of touch but these days it's a it's a different world and a hyper connected shall we say but laura tell me your thoughts thoughts about how vermont is gonna stack up against other states i mean i i gather were were behind but i mean you think about other rural places the v adirondack site i have friends who have a have a camp on lake shadow gay up and he products and that's pretty remote i don't i don't remember if they have internet they're not but you know are are we are on pace on par with with upstate new york or with the you know rural parts of a new hampshire in maine or where are we in relation to other states you know i think a lot of states are grappling with this all at the same time a rural areas i actually this down in rural georgia earlier this spring and they certainly are as well they're legislature passed a bill intended to help their rural areas but i think vermont has done are citizens of service a with leadership from the likes of fiber in 'em and others in terms of of expressly according un advocating instilled in schools for community based solutions and community driven solutions and i think that is going to be a differentiator theater in a lot of places across the country we have a real stranglehold by a national providers on a on the build out of these networks that has existed and in they've been sending good money federally end at the state level to maintain that stranglehold south ab i think we've differentiated are cells in that way and as i said things in and do you think this model i mean the previous to the cd's it was you know he was talking about this public private partnership and we were gonna put a lot of state and federal money into private companies which were going to build this stuff out force hasn't really happened as a as a do you feel like a lot of money is wasted a i think a lot of state money a recently a you know i think we've seen some excellent projects come out and pretty critical project come out of federal investments we had this a project that bill a fiber to are schools in are libraries that is absolutely critical and i expect will play a large role in in this field that we've had some boondoggles 'em and that continues to really be the challenge the challenge the situation on the ground here a you know a wireless a the wireless programs on detailed continues to be challenging because it really or event other federal dollars coming in to offenses like areas minerals altercation and others are working hard head addressed that but well i gather that the cd's now stepping up a is this it's gonna be break with his model in rural areas or do you think the some of the national providers are gonna be prompted the start building up more when they see this new competition you know i i hope to see some of the national providers see that as a you know a partnership opportunity and you know maybe even a power sharing opportunity this is a this is not a luxury critical infrastructure 'em you know there's a desire as you know there's a desire for less regulation when you have infrastructure that is so critical for modern life and public health and safety 'em you know there's more regulation needed so that's really i think the barrier that we need to see a whisker are national providers but i think there certainly is opportunity in this self a partnership with those providers well it sounds like there's a lot of work to do but we we were making the start here so that is they a i'm really glad you get this sort of progress report an update from me three of you might guess on the dave ramsey show here today have been evan carlson who is helping delete an effort in the northeast canaan they're bringing communications union district to ten towns a in that part of the state jeremy hanson has a is in a similar position he's a he's a on these like board berlin and there's also leading the central about internet effort in lower oil a washington orange county's andy a large civilians state representative from dover who's been very 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William herschel discovered the planet uranus on this date in seventeen eighty one federal government for bed all union army troops from returning fugitive slaves in eighteen sixty two thus effectively annulling the fugitive state law eighteen fifty and setting the stage for the emancipation. Proclamation but confederate states of america reluctantly agreed to the use of african american troops on this date in eighteen sixty five in nineteen thousand nine hundred thirty. The news of the discovery of pluto telegraph to the harvard college observatory in nineteen thirty in one thousand nine hundred eighty. Three banks in the us began to reopen after the presidentially mandated. Bank holiday the f. b. i. Arrested jimmy hoffa on this date in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven charged with bribery in one thousand nine hundred sixty one president kennedy welcome latin american leaders to the white house to call for economic cooperation called on all people of the hemisphere join in a new alliance for progress alleanza para progress on a vast cooperative effort unparalleled in magnify magnitude and nobility purpose to satisfy the basic needs of the american people. The home word and land help and schools chatshow for bajo selig. Es waylon the president's effort had mixed results a young woman. Kitty genevieve murdered in front of multiple witnesses on this date in nineteen sixty four. All the witnesses failed to give her any assistance in an incident which shocked the world and prompted investigation into the bystander. Effect president johnson on this date in nineteen sixty five discuss the riots in selma alabama and a conversation. He had with that state's governor. I met today with governor wallace of alabama to discuss very thoroughly the decision situation that exists in that statement. The governor expressed his concern that the demonstrations which have taken place are a threat to the peace and security of the people of alabama. I expressed my own concern about the need for remedying. Those grievances which leads to the demonstrations by people who feel their rights have been denied later in the press conference the president affirm the right of people to peacefully protest but agreed that people do not have the right to yell fire in a crowded theatre in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. The justice department announced exxon agreed to pay one billion dollars for the cleanup of the exxon valdez. Oil spill in alaska was on this date in nineteen ninety-two warren beatty and annette. Benning tied the knot after meeting and starring in the motion picture. Bugsy gonna ask me for something a little more exciting. Use your imagination confusing. Let me know when you're finished now. After the movie wrapped bending became pregnant with the couple's first child born january eighth of nineteen ninety two and they married on this date two months later among other things taking place on this date in history it was in twenty thirteen. Pope francis elected as the two hundred sixty six pope of the catholic church. Basking away on this date in history president benjamin harrison suffrage activists anthony attorney clarence darrow actress maureen stapleton the pressure game show host peter to marcon and to pro-wrestlers of note arnold scotland and test this the birthdate of former First lady abigail fillmore also borne on this dating history swing and sway with sammy kaye Science fiction author founder of scientology. L ron harold john larkin scat man. John best known as and rerun. Fred berry all borne on this date in history. Kenya believe that mad cartoonist. Al jaffee made it to one hundred. Donald duck turns eighty seven day singer. Songwriter neil sadaqa. Eighty two years of age still up in that laughter in the rain. William h macy from fargo and shameless. Seventy one today from china beach. Dana delany sixty five from the x. Files and west wing and beth. Gish is fifty years of age. Also danny masterson from that. Seventy show. Forty five years old from shameless and twilight. Knoll fisher is thirty seven and from into the wild emile. Hirsch is thirty six those just a few of the people who the thirteenth day of marches. There birthday. it this is your birthday. Hi we're the four freshmen and say who knows what evil lurks. In the hearts of men the shadow do i mean the chateau tests orson welles and agnes moorehead starring in an episode of the shadow from eighty three years ago today march thirteenth. Nineteen thirty eight on this saturday. Edition of classic radio theatre. Maybe you've heard about meta share. And you know what it is. 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Maybe the guy didn't really trapped in the first place the only guys smut enough. They get me that shadow for nothing to say. You're not going to be better lesson all of you. I know i'm on my way to house to this year on a new. For every day. I sent the out one. You will be killed sutton with jury and the covenant community tech. He'll died a day. I burn bregman but our vested in me by the people of this state of i ought to be taken to the state. Pfennings delivered over to the water. I all under second day coming by this prescribed by law for that. And may god have mercy on your soul like where the car outside of the sierra club. I tell you how records a whole. The judge wilson. Even the governor. I tell you you my wife General veteran jail. I know but you have bingo shadow. Nothing anybody like get out of kim on disadvantage margot unfortunately the mystery surrounding the shadow inspires fear and terror in the innocent as well as the guilty. The unknown though often associated with evil is no help for it. The shadow remain shadow convicted threat. You wish i did not go meaning. Not cranston is down in the shadows cloak. Call on joe. Becca Routed the regular allowed any. You've got five minutes. But i make the most of from the state thing that thank you. Bye-bye the big house. I'll be back might ends any sedan. Abundant wanna talk to you the much time. Hey it's like a cage while they kill animals. How'd y'all any all. Don't get sore. Listen what i gotta say. I gonna kid jill abbott. They're gonna pay for it every last one of them. You know who they don't you i told you over and over again. He joe told me and you know what you do. You remember everything i tell you. Don't you danny yay yet. Joe i remember. I don't forget when newspapers say they put you in a dead house. I show one of them. That's right and don't forget these people. I told you about the judge the jury that prosecuting attorney of the same ones. That drafted went to the army. Seven of france when she gets shellshocked. So it's time for you to remember things. Yeah i won't forget. Hey let height much when they kill you joe. Okay okay i just wanna know. You'll just keep your mind on a judge wilson. Maybe even a governor. You'll get them all as any. Yeah yeah joe. They won't know what. Hit them that stuff any allowed. Just one more thing does that guy may get fbi. He's smarter than the cops. He's one that really got me to keep away from. Don't give them a chance to find you. A how can i. Don't i keep away from home. Don't own it flat of the old lady with myra. Worry if i don't come home on. No she won't any hill. No you that things that they'll right job. What about the fell. I can't see as you dead. Let go of my buddies in the war. Ones that talk to me and the dog now not in this guy. He ain't that he's alive in his voice. Only you can see him but if you ever hear his voice you'll know he's needed somewhere in the shadows. Yeah if he talks to me. I'll fix them joel zero but not away. You're gonna get the danny 'cause you can't cnc gino's old hand-grenades you have at home. Yeah all i want you to carry a couple of which you if this guy ever find you. If he tries to stop. You're paying telling me you'll just pull the pin of a hand grenade and throw away your voices coming from. That will get him all right now. But how will i know when a ten euro no all they any. Here's a quick kind of less. And he calls himself shadow record. I'm on you shales salon denny. Don't you forget anything so long. Joe i wouldn't forget. Forget nothing yet. Put job what right have. Xm and rain. Last one and emma fight. Flynn said they're gone. Are you surprised to find me. Joke brecca's and so you weren't expecting me and yet britain's filled with shadows shadows in the minds of men walking in the shadow of death itself when he went. Put me that a chair. Why can't you let me along your career of is not over. Because i know you mean to carry out the threat you made in cost. Yeah you can't stop me because you're going to tell me how the jordan the prosecuting attorney and judge. Wilson is going to be crazy. I'm telling you anything shadow. I'm gonna freddie anymore. I got nothing to lose. You are telling me brecca. If the i can read your mine. One thought is racing through your mind. Now mirrored in your eyes catched on your brain alliance trying to trick me into telling you all right. I'll tell you what you're thinking about your thinking. A man he strangely is talk. Show am i right. No stopping managed very close to you. I've got it easier brother famous z. And then isn't it go away. Leave me alone now your brother. Danny's hunting home to get a high powered rifle out of a trump a rifle equipped with telescopic sights and a silencer. You're thinking of vannes medals marksmanship decorations for valor sniper. Neither so cunning. He could hide in an open battle. Long range seen. That's all i need to know. All i need to know support lease you and find them new on stop shadow. Hey my with think you're talking to here in the prisoner Well don't let that worry your bracket as plenty of shadows. You're going. I'm on deputies are waiting and you're heading for the last mile Look mr hansen. Every one of you jerusalem. We shouldn't be here on the street. This death may seem like a lot of who you been assigned to god anything happens. They'll send me back pounding feet. Well i'm sorry inspector. But i've got my business though tend to and i can't hide in my office. I said what's the matter man. What's what's going on. Hoyle hoyle on man's been shot by you're crazy. I cannot deny just the same. You've got a bullet like between the eyes. Looks like joel. Record keeping his word do any break. Oh no logo. He got away. His mother's own census brother joe went to the death out. I've got to find danny brecca. He's somewhere hiding somewhere waiting to strike again. got to find it Can't kate would have listened. Adams what are you doing out in the seat. I thought the police detectives watching every one of yours. That was the breaker kiss my house. Of course you can't. Why don't you send me. Dr been shot from afraid. She said the killer struck again Wilson judge don't you think it is. The will her with a killer still at large if you had those window curtains closing vitamins on the twentieth floor. Now i know your honor but just the same. Judge wilson is right here. You're closing the governor's on the wires on governor of course garage couldn't camille joel record sentence it anything like that even to say the rest of the jury there'd be no more law and order. Look governor. don't you think it'd be wise to cancel your engagement ride in the brain in an open car. Perfect target coming ahead. Governor johnson has just been shot he he's dead Shadow will continue with adventure. Adjustable the first half of the shadow adventure from eighty three years ago march thirteenth. Nineteen thirty eight. I'm wyatt cox. Thanks for tuning. Into this edition of classic radio theater. On a saturday. Orson welles and agnes moorehead. Tomorrow we will have another orson welles production although it's not the way you expected but right now a coming up in just a couple of moments. We'll have the news from eighty three years ago today and the conclusion of the shadow. Whatever you're funny. Peacocks got it exclusively stream. Classic sitcoms the office parks and recreation and two and a half men. Plus can't pick up original comedies. Like ap bio saved by the bell for all your exclusive phase could've peacock tv dot com and get started. Length is here and the fish fry is dearborn. Try something new. This lent with our customer favor. Bob's barbecue smoked salmon. Smoke fresher stores daily driven by deals. 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Episode of the shadows starring orson welles and agnes moorehead as it was originally broadcast sunday march thirteenth. Nineteen thirty eight in the newspapers. Eighty three years ago. These were some of the headlines. British prime minister neville chamberlain plainly warn germany. Britain would expand her vast rearmament program to match force with force in answer to fuhrer hitler's. Absorption of austria however the prime minister in a buydell statement of policy before house of commons packed and tents did not promise british backing to france if she should go to war to save czechoslovakia from germany in ism meanwhile the reaction worldwide from vienna jewish hysteria becomes grim undertone in ecstasy of nazi. Welcome adolf hitler baron. Karl von workman reportedly dying mysterious bullet wounds in paris. New people's front government seeks british british-aided mutual assistance network or central europe from rome premiere. Mussolini returning hitler's reassurance of friendship from budapest. Hungarian nazis may ask hitler to return. Bergen land ceded to austria after world war in return for military economic alliance from the vatican. Vatican newspaper doubts austrian. Catholics will escape persecutions from moscow. Communist newspaper seat war threat because czechoslovakia is hitler's next likely victim. Secrecy still veils hour of death for eighteen condemned traitors regular german troops equipped with machine-guns lined up in formidable array today along the ostrow. Czechoslovakian frontier intensifying the jitter suffered by government officials in prague at the same time tens of thousands of czechoslovakians stage national unity demonstrations throughout the country at one of these mass meetings. The leader of the powerful agrarian party warned any attack on czechoslovakia would mean a european war. Richard whitney the head of the richard whitney and company brokerage firm and former president of the new york stock exchange pled guilty today to a grand jury indictment charging grand larceny the indictment procured by district attorney thomas e dewey and accused the socialite prominent financial of the up to one hundred three thousand dollars from the estate of his father-in-law toward our shelton in washington. Chairman vincent the democrat of georgia of the house naval committee beginning debate of the administration's billion dollar naval expansion. Bill warned congress against tying the president's hands by insisting on a disarmament conference at this time then some expressed the believe nothing would contribute more to world peace than limitation of armaments but he declared emphatically a disarmament conference to present world conditions is doomed to failure continent tobacco. Growers voted by overwhelming margins to levy stiff penalties taxes on producers who backslide under the new crop control program bar mercy pause in their chore throughout the south and in several western states on saturday to cast ballots approved marketing provisions of the nineteen thirty eight farm act as a result agriculture department officials arranging today to put this system into operation each farmer. Will we told how much cotton or tobacco weakened cell and any farmer who sells more than his quota will pay penalty tax of two cents a pound on excess cotton or one half the market price on excess tobacco senator. Norris of nebraska predicted the tennessee valley authority may withdraw. Its offer to purchase private utility properties unless the power company show more willingness to play fair quoting. The tv will not keep its offer for the purchase of private properties. Open indefinitely said that temporarily halting the public works program of aiding city power developments step suggested by a utility spokesman merely would get the private companies a stronger hand in bargaining per sale of their properties to the tv president. Roosevelt asked congress to set up a point committee to study the forest land problem with a view to taking action at the next session to check the using up of our forest resources without replacements. He said in a special message. With some outstanding exceptions most of the states communities and private companies had accomplished little poor forest conservation those some of the day's top news stories as reported in the newspapers up sunday march thirteenth. Nineteen thirty eight on your radio. The shadow the conclusion next on this saturday edition of classic radio theater three time. You're sitting at home. And you pondering. What kind of gifts divi for someone. Patriotdepot dot com. Has you covered from puzzles. 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It seems that jack was sick and chicago. And so orson. Welles came in to fill in as the guest star on the jack. Benny program for march fourteenth nineteen forty-three. That'll be on our sunday program but right now. Let's wrap up this edition on saturday with an episode of the shadow eighty three years ago march thirteenth. Nine hundred thirty eight. The silent debenture Senior get here the other con- how many people call them on a matter of fact you've been waiting for days whereas it then what are you doing. The entire police for the has been doing mago facing a will of the. What are you sure. It's still buy them. Yes many of it. The things released confine. And i am the single clue to go on his record. He was shellshock during the war. In france using mocks sniper society trained to kill men and told them they were enemies that he should kill them off now with a shell shocked mind. he's remembering what society taught him and another thing. People have been through that experience. Is he shot and killed jordan. And the judge finger only doing says individually the innocent mago individually with all innocent yet all guilty because dan their joe brecca's brother is a product of our own folly. Teaching men who kill in time of war dead expecting them to respect life in time of peace. I want you to do something that brownstone house their job records mother lives in the basement. Joyce schedule died five o'clock. It's exempting minutes from now with margo as the shadow of a feeling. Danny may come to his mother tonight. I just before or just after his brother dies. Ten minutes is the house. Bill much and i cannot but don't try to make it onto question you on record. I'm not to speak to you can i. Don't care is in minutes. You'll want to doesn't matter. Nothing better than maung. Nothing as a matter again. I know you've been through a terrible ordeal least hostages a second. The general i've been through. How good anyone else. My one son amid the other ones goodness knows fraught. Flares wanding sides as anything. I can do in three minutes killing my son. Joe says nothing. Anyone can do it better than you own him. So learning about him. Why doesn't he come away. Don't need to home. Oh joe said. I shouldn't but i had to come home. And i see janice dean much job in making. Do i just been doing what. Joe tomey that little perm ma who that what. She don't why she just as being then he just did the income. Just sit with me will tell nobody been here while she no no gang. She won't tell anyone they're gonna kill joel minutes five o'clock and then i got to go out and do one more thing for joe. Look almost time. You can't. I won't let me get into what you're tony. I got kicked my way. That joe dining jimmy. I know i know we've killing those people shooting them all. You've got to get yourself out gandhi. You didn't know you know what you would. It's time five. O'clock joe is dead. Now i gotta go back to the power and the last thing joe enough. Hi joe told me that. I got i got still televisa. You'll hear avoid telling you not to thin in. I know gotta shuttle then is. Don't take your mother's. I mean that's why i hand fire and i'm put out the morning a life in a car. Hey y'all told me to throw chicago right. I managed to pick up the grenades through the window into the clock exploded. I don't mind saying that. The closest call shadow if i had to Wanna give in here in your office. What happens you able to tell. Danny he's hiding. By the time. I got to the street after that. Handgrenade episode disappeared when he rents but telling mentioned my been working on this enlargement for the midtown section. Hide behind some tall building. Some taller danny records to hide the pick off the governor and he said something about how it must be somewhere along the line of today's rate them on. That's the worst montella they i. It's nothing but a steel better place for a sharpshooter. Like danny bricker work going on to watch on the street level long shot but it may be the answer. Come on is a minute. Luis vega somebody else waiting case margot. I'm afraid we will have a new governor of the state sir Hitting a couple of minutes now. Joe just a couple of minutes and governor has kind of come along and not do the last thing you asked me to do. Joe when velocity general range three hundred yards die quits job like you died job. That's his automobile with all flags on it. That's him sitting in the back but all of those around him. But i can pick them out. I won't miss joe fanny breakfast. What was that like that. Recognize the shadow. Danny jones said he said the hand grenade would up brother was wrong but down that rifles. Brecca how did you find me way up here. How do you know. I was hiding up here. Among feel good just like. I used to hide and trees in the war. Fact doesn't matter at any record all it matters. If you must not kill anymore people got to just one more shadowed just one more down there and that car i promise joe will never leapt prominent down that rival but it down then eh down deal good and crawl back to the catwalk put it down. Put it down show still got another. Grenade taught shadow. Say something so. I got away Crawl back to the catwalk catwalk. I say no now. I want i want. You can't make me a man gat. May of you want me to do that then. Don't you come shadow. Don't you touch me at trump. This hand down and people have doesn't tell them fan. Listen to me him holding height brecca the finger with tighten about your mind. Obey the mine you hear than holding that handgrenade all hold it. Don't drop it. Don't don't commissioner western high-powered rifles helen. The streets right in front of the governor's car. No one was hurt. This is the thirtieth floor is where the bomb went off with a guy that pieces at a time bomb went off to a quick. And how was if they've honed an identification cards newspaper clippings in his pocket on what was left of it was done record. Joel beckham's brother. I august. That suppose really happen anyway. There's one consolation. The shadow veiled on his case doesn't badly as we did quite commissioner western. So you got time to take credit for his asia. No credit glory. In the death of danny brecca commissioner weston victim human instrument of this structure fashions mankind teaches men to kill that in time of war. It expects them to forget them. In time of peace. Dan brekke was an enemy of society akilah. But only because you and i and countless thousands faded one. Commissioner there is no glory in this for you or the shadow man a now. John clave glucose heating expert has a few words valuable information for you. Thank you can robert. Good evening friends this summer. 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Mr john diner as paladin san francisco. Eighteen seventy five the carlton hotel headquarters of a man called paladin. A good morning good morning. Hey boy you'll go early. Yes indeed nothing. Like a brisk walk before breakfast. He saw very nice day. Oh yes warm. Sunshine stifle year's at the spring and days at the morning Excuse me mornings at seven hundred. You forgot to pick up mail last night. But he for you. Oh thank you. They boy said muller beaver fork montana. See dear mr paladin. Your reputation for taking hold of a situation has reached this town. Then i would i. E saw muller says he needs. My services wants me to get up there to beaver fork as soon as possible. So will you go down to the hotel basement where my trunk is stored indicate that winter clothing. We just packed away. He saw but you have to leave when we have such nicer day to school. Yes say boy. No well. Mr muller enclosed a very handsome check most of the country. The year was at the spring but northern montana was having late winter. i reached a settlement. Just twenty miles from beaver when a blizzard hit. The storm raged for ten days and women's style finally cleared the snow is piled in roof high drifts and roads were eight feet under. I had mrs abbots boardinghouse home cooking clean beds reasonably comfortable at my fellow. Lodgers were quite pleasant. Good morning paladin money. Hey where do you think you're going up like that. I'm leaving old-timer. I've already wasted too much time now looking here. You aiming to take out over that mountain area. I have to have been a beaver for over two weeks ago. Man must be important. If it can't wait trailer clear dip a man set for me said muller said you sure know the rest of the bunch to there's a former head this way they'd been in east parche long about year maybe earliest said. He needed me. Have you bothered to take a good look at the snow hanging on them peaks. Well there's lots of it. Yeah just like it wasn't fifty nine. Who never forget that what happened. Avalanche biggest niece parche. Well i'll just have to take my chances bio timer. I followed the floor of a wide white valley for several miles then turned toward the mountain. A hundred passed me. His rifle slung easy across his arm. he smiled waved. Went on and i started decline. Halfway up the slope stopped arrest on a narrow ledge below me on the flatland. I could see the hundred and apparently he had spotted his car. He raised the rifle to his shoulder and fired. I looked up ahead to see if he had made his kill. The body of a man lay sprawled in the snow and then it came like a whisper. At i am slow. Almost gentle movement and then a low rumble that they'll do a deafening roar and a great light cloud move toward me. Let's see if you can swallow a little more this Rotgut discriminating man like like that. So but it's the best i can do at the moment. Yeah yeah. I think i will. Looks like you're gonna make an after all. That was doubtful for a while. Then mountain fell on me takes a little time. It's all right. Take all the time. He won a where am i. What is this place here and abandoned. She orders cabin. I found it. Hold up here during the storm. My name's daniel kerr. Did you dig me out of that. Snow a handful at a time. You're under there three hours three hours. You fell by a boulder create an air pocket. That's how you managed to survive. Usually one slide will start another. You're risking your life to rescue me. Perhaps well how did you get me here. Carried you you quite a load. Why did you do it. Well after all i realize it was the reverberation from my shot that caused the slide. I felt responsible like did you take the trouble to save me. I saw you deliberately. Shoot a man i know but you see when i mean from gun to kill a man. How pointed at him take game. Pull the trigger. Didn't it occur to you. i'm the only witness to the murder you committed. 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The interposition of the night phones the mate. No well someday when we have a chessboard and pieces on show you. I'll be looking forward to that. Looks like i'm out of tobacco out. Be an extra candidate vacco in here leg field today. What was much better to the fact that job to do. I will to present tobacco. No yeah here. it is. Keep an facts here. This letter fell out of the sack from the man. I of business within beaver for similar. That's the man i have business with. Oh he's next on my list list to kill why i haven't asked you any questions paladin. That's right to sit in muller. No he's on your list. I think he does well daniela. I think it's only fair to tell you my guns for hire muller sent for me probably to protect him from you and perhaps we'll meet again sort of hated to say goodbye anyway. It's been very pleasant you leaving. I made my plans this morning. As soon as i saw you could get around. So i'd better get started. Especially if you're going to be working for me. I'd hate to have to point my gun at you paladin. If you've got in the way of the job. I have to do for so long. Thanks again for the tobacco. Thank you for saving. My life was a pleasure Three days in a row. I tried to work my way down the trail from the cab into the valley an each time. My knee gave way and i had to give up and crawl back over the hard packed snow but on the fourth day i made it. It was bitterly cold in an icy winds blowing. But i saw that. The roads have been cleared and i decided that my best that to return to the settlement and get a horse. I'd gone only a short distance. When i saw a wagon coming toward me. Well paladin old-timer nordea man. I never see you again till the spring thaw thinking. You stretched up stiff onto the snow. Come down off the mountain. A matter of fact. I was briefly. Mind if i climb up there with you. Know come on and get one of them their blankets wrapped around you this. Here's marina snapper. Headed old timer beaver park. Come on. I am the bearer of pretty dern disconcerting tidende after the slide. We all out there pulling on the snow looking for you now now there. We come across eight muller right john. They've malaria and that brother three or four days ago. Franklin pets another. Brother chartered over from beaver. Far to pick up the remains had to wait till the road with clear you. She never showed up. He was found this morning. Rifle-shot look like somebody's not exterminate them. Other boys looks like a real blood killed blood. Shoot wait a minute old. Where were the muller's located before. They came to montana where they've always been kind of tight mouth about themselves. But i always figured it was texas. Sure doll become judge. Aren daniel finally appended. Judge car was an eastern appointed by the president to preside over the court dobie county in the first case. That came before him was a murder charge against a man named muller. Yeah he was found. Guilty car sentenced him to be hanged day. The sentence was carried out. Five men broke into the judge's house and string them up by the neck the rat race. What did you environment nothing. But everyone knew that. The file lynch muller's sons. You mean you think. Malaysia the shame on and as i recall several months later. The oldest muller boy was ambushed. Yeah that must have been when the others left dog in came up here daniel car judge cars sunning course would get your shun. What do you say in pailin. I'll explain later old time. Let's move on air. Pumpkin didn't move quite fast. Enough reached beaver fort. We found a crowd gathered around a blanket wrapped body hanging over the back of a prospectors mule. It was vernon miller. He'd been ambushed. This you getting pretty scary. Paladin grief is sitting this crowd here. That jima within the red mackinaw said mother. Yeah who you. My name is paladin pallet. Find time for you to be showing up guy too late to help tomorrow. That's why i want to return this check to you. Now sit your brother. Franklin was found this morning frank. He's been shot. He's dead frank to hear that man. Thank god to i ten years. Nobody's safe like crazy killers. Running loose said the only life endanger now is yours. You better get to the sheriff s for protection to be found and brought to justice justice. Look taliban we'll see that he's brought to justice. Just don't you worry. Hellas aspect of the brought in vernon here says there was some tracks out there in the snow. We gotta get us some house and go after night crazy killer and when we get him bringing up palace fellas real worked up. I think maybe. I know where daniels headed. I've got to him before. That mob does your so concerned about his failure. You'd think he would beholden to him old timer. I'm beholden to him for my life. Daniel daniel let me in your working for up this time. May gun is pointed at you. I'm not working for muller anymore. I wanna talk to you. I hope you don't mind. I'm going to keep my rifle right ahead coming. Close the door daniel. They're coming foia. A crazy mob said modern with them. Yeah good. I've been waiting to get to him. You can't stay here. I'm not going to move until i kill syd muller daniel. You're an intelligent man. What do you mean by this vendetta paladin. My father said as a duly appointed judge in the case of the state of texas versus lee muller. He gave an honest impartial judgment based on the laws of our land so the mothers took the law into their own hands. And kill your father. Now you've taken the law into your hands to kill a muller's where does it end doesn't matter there's still time daniel give yourself up to the law. Tell your side of the snow paladin. I have a job to do look. They're on their way they're coming for you. I'm staying here and don't interfere daniel. Listen to me stay back. No i won't pull this trigger. But i sorry paladin and paladin. Hello timer came. You sure must have got yourself a good whack on the head. Hit me with the rifle. But now i thought you'd never come into the mob o dirty work and gone already. What happened that bunch. I was trailing on with him. We got this year playstation this fellow when nobody's it he just steps out big as life. Somehow he got a beat on did just pointed his gun to came pull. The trigger should just dropped net crazy mob. They had the rope already and they man ichiro pretty daniel was determined to end and i couldn't stop him terrible. Waste old-timer got in. Hello miss. What did did the green room. Oh what's Some clothing winter clothing. Hey boys going to put my trunk in the basement. Then he's going to push the trunk away over in the corner. We won't be needing it again for a long time. Mizzou sewn in asia. Dont'a let's add me. She pilot Oh i live translated by rosetti. But where are the snows of yesteryear. And i was just thinking i i don't care where are the snows of yesteryear. I don't care where are the snows of this year. I don't care where are the snows of next year. Only wherever they are. That's where i don't wanna be eight Have gun will travel. Sean reated her medal. And sam row is produced and directed in hollywood by frank perez and stars. John dinner as paladin with ben. Right as a boy and virginia gregg. Ms wooten tonight starting was specially written for have gun will travel by an avowed featured in the cast. Were ralph moody called. You and barney phillips. This is hugh douglas inviting you to join us again next week when. Cbs radio presents. have gun. will travel the only major radio adaptation of a television program. Yes have gun will travel on television appeared before have gun will travel on radio. Have gun will travel march thirteenth nineteen sixty on classic radio theatre. Gunsmoke starring william conrad is an extra march thirteenth nineteen sixty when classic radio theatre continues in four minutes. 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He's he's can't help it get you. I think we lost him dublin back. Let's see where you just hopes. Marsha make sure you will really gonna clean out. Let it be a little watering the please. You'll hang on scene. No time to quit. We got a chance. We got away not me. Marcia fix me. Don't you worry about that. Marshall finding us now you get him only joe. You're gonna be able to get in for yourself. You need a little rest you you get him rate. Don't die on me now. We got all you give up chasing us rape all right. I'll get in defined do nothing else out get marshall. I don't know whether the put salt on that feather. Or what are you talking about that. Van your hat all the time you turn your head puts my. I haven't thank you think this one look at the one jones is going to win that one man get right off the boardwalk. Wow some of them. That wouldn't be such a bad idea. Your company accepted a course all never mind soft. You know any girl. It'd be proud to be seen walking down and speak with you. Oh look that's riding into town. It's time to back own. A stranger didn't even grumpy old goat. Couldn't help hearing us. that's not like him. No kidding walker and chocolate and rescues. You let me know if he needs anything or sure. I'll do that get here. You should at least are let me take your whoops bother one the body rest near as good land there at your boots on. You're just never mind what i'm trying to make you more comfortable. I get out of here. Let me go to sleep with you. I just to ornery to know how to rest properly. Then night go by matt back. Yeah back there. All the ain't worth seeing. He just plain out source for one thing. That's nothing new. What else tells him. Elliott ain't act like you've got good sense trying to sweep after a four day ride or even taking his boots. Aw i'll take a look at insured unless you would. I told you should this. Is you come back later. please Just his mouth. You want tom. Give me a hand. All i wanna take. Your pulse has to get me some water woman. But i'm not gonna sleep. Let you get it in a minute. Nine fact you're going to sleep much better. Thank a take this talk. I don't want to chase away. What's left of the fever has a go ahead matin ticket full motion. Matt didn't kidding. You gotta hit and you will thank me when you wake up you get outta here. I don't know why they choose a us marshal actual new. The death is doing really sick. I think the worst deserve. Everybody probably had a pretty bad touch a fever on the trail. I wonder if worn out something i can do. Fine and don't think just they need sleep more than you know. I ain't bad at taking care of sick folks. I know but. I don't think matt's going to need any of your expert nursing man. It just don't seem right. They ain't nothing. I match shift that you are like an old woman. I'm just trying to help with help. So much to pick up his things for them look. He shouldn't spread them around didn't they. It looks like a pigsty here. You just throw this stuff doesn't walk through saddlebag act now. That's good jesse. Didn't fix them all upon at not. Just look there. I'm just take a look at his gun. Just dropped the belt in the corner their decision. That looks like it's been in the mud at short. Now that ain't like none. I don't think he's feeling much like himself for the last two or three days. Just don't understand how gun could get as we. Maybe maybe fell off his horse with a fever he would have been getting. There's no question about that and just a blast to clean. That's good justice. Yes now there is something you can do at least just You wanna watch out for one thing. What's that we want to be. Sure and take the cartridges out of that gun before you cleveland. Well now i think mad at take too kindly to the idea. You're using his gun to blow your brains out with a chorus. I'll take them out. I haven't started it yet. You know you can see for yourself. Stay i'm relieved about that food. No latin i'm glad to hear it is just osceola don't bind. You wouldn't bullets. Of course. I will by no warden bullets body. Don't get credit for no sense at all non. Mr come in and shut the door. They room for no more flies in here. Here's the marshal's office is is. Here's a marshal's office. You can't see what's going on. I team see chester him. I'm gesture what do you want. I'm defects you. Were dot com. O that can be so he'd been five minutes he is right here and come right away. Are you sure about that. Seemed like doc at toby around the corner. Josh prentice broke his leg. I can't do nothing about that. Want you to help pull them down. Wasp tea sets you employees. Better looking see. Mr. don't need anything. i dead. The world boy. No john's back one third about of. Is you just remember knowledge chores. Do you might to well come on. 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How are amazing constitution and bill of rights protect us. The citizens against power craves politicians in washington. Help us take back. America go to our american rights dot com brought to you by the american media council now on classic radio theater the conclusion of gunsmoke march thirteenth. Nineteen sixty marquise knifing bill. You don't look like i've missed much You don't change a lot. Let's choose whiskey move you sitting in boca game declared seeing you again. Reckoning would not denied. Sam figured dodgers good place to be shut up tonight. I don't wanna be around when joel lan cuts loose k. You'll live. He must be a hundred miles from here. Not now he ain't seen him matt. Dillon chased him and his brother outta here. After that. hold up last week. You must seen somebody out matt. Dillon chased them all right and he killed read. That's why joe's back to get map. Should i'm sure he's down to liberate stable then into the lean horse. He's telling me plane. He's out to get the marshall. I think our ride right on through. I'm going to catch a bullet. I don't want it to be one that was nipple somebody else. A long bill Yeah mosquito talking. About joe line. Did he stays back. Dodge cute did miss kitty. Liri dave needs to get the martian. Somebody oughta tell math. Want me send somebody nothing. Thanks myself just got to wake up. Chester math wake up. Come on up. I gotta do it. Gotta get up joel. Rhyme madison dot to get. You can't be lost them. Have where the border kenny. When you go to your his brothers after you sure they'll just a few minutes ago over the livery stable. I guess i'm going to go over some coffee. You need your wider open. Gun belt thanksgiving the letter now. The you're you're all right but it'll be right now. All right josh thanks. I'll get somebody to drive you out. Home dot com. I'm going to be able to hear a delay. Alright again crush Josh you're probably be better. Never after i've worked on it and gets you right. The boys josh hand over to his wagon. Yeah thanks again dark out all you need me for it all just his own. You a great help now. Getting on back office. Why forgot yes. You were in the middle of a mighty important job. Clean them at gun. Oh why any abadaka. Don't give me credit for have much. do you're telling me to be sure and take that cartridges. You better get the gun back. Where matt left. He might catch cold if it got up and started wandering around without wearing. You don't think i'd leave mr dylan gun where he couldn't find it do what it right where he can see all right own on my samat i gotta get back their way. What is it you you think coffee's a ball over no doc high cleaning for god put them cardi and back mr doing gone. Tell you marshal. Joe limestone the stable. He's there all right and talking. Awful me almost crazy about you killing his brother. Just don't believe go in their marshall. i gotta getting. I'm just thought ought to you. Stay out of the way as her leave. I will july. Come out of there waiting for you mark fact marshall i got to see i. It'll be better for you. If you come out line you've come get you. Just come and get me right. I'm coming marshall. You might have got up into the long. You sure begging braved. i haven't into that. Stowell may come on down lime grade like when you read man. I'm ready for your move. Come on try and get me know worth a single shot. You better make your mobile marshall. I wait up here forever. Come on over give out line come out on new. Come get me. I don't have to topmost shots your guns last check out. I'm coming down all right back. Go ahead i'll stop. Can you do better. I got your gun. I get you to just stand still nothing foolish. I ain't gonna kill you easy. Marshall i'm gonna kill you slow little bit time you got in the say all an not to you. Maybe you will after this guy don't you because she's not gonna showed lime through not hardly break you in one move and i'll blow you into chester. 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They live in and live to fight for teeming crucibles pioneer freedom frontier how they chad remington name chad remington from those risks and the rocky mountain country. Where i'm sort of held. I guess you'd call me a frontier town lawyer. Strange things happen out on the frontier and as a result strange things happen to me mighty strange things but the frontier being what it is always changing always moving and with the people who drift into it across. We've got about as much law as as the law allows showing you what i mean. Let's take what seemed to be a pretty cut and dried case that was brought to me just a matter of a few weeks ago and i guess the best way to tell you about it is tell you what happened or what i suppose happened before they send for me all took place in the town of rock springs over four hundred fifty miles from those concerned a cattle rancher by the name of oliver baldwin and his daughter dixie crime and you're just wasting your breadth arguing with me on what i'm doing and i'm telling you that i'm going down to dell anti stone. Tell him off proper. Maybe make a mistake when you wrote that deed out for you just felt you wrote it out for three hundred acres. Am i put an x. Two zero on it without realizing only mistake. I made in dealing with that unprincipled. No good in the first place. I know what i wrote in that and it was just three hundred acres thousand. Well if you're positive. He changed the three hundred to three thousand. You still shouldn't take the law on your own shit anything about taking the law into hand. I'm just going down and give him twenty calls to change at three hundred acres or suffer the consequences. And while i'm in town i'm sending a telegram over to the. Is that lawyer over there chad remington. Because if dylan he's going to try any stuff me i am. I getting alliance on him and his whole kit and caboodle well. Oliver baldwin was as good as his word. It's the team to his board and drove from the toolbar s into rock springs to call inside. Delahunt store della had had recently opened in the town and while he was on the trail the rock springs oliver. Baldwin was the subject of the conversation. Della handy was having with his assistant. Prod stevens handy. I know i work for you. But you ain't been in rock springs long enough to know about these things. And and i'm telling ya. Oliver baldwin is irregular catamounts. When he gets riled gentleman looks so gentle. But i wouldn't go talk about devil. Here comes ball. Now that may handle on allah to go oliver and me and Don't tell me just because you made it perfectly understandable mistake filling out my deed that you're going to hold it against me handy. I know you ain't been long enough to understand those folks but they don't go out here. We got our own way handling crops. Show the gentlemen of the door and don't be too polite about it. Yeah come on lay a hand on me. I don't go home. miss the ball. You pull a gun acted like a complete nitwit. Run the two hundred mirror. Get up before i lose my temper completely that gunslinger yours didn't have my forty-five art show you but i'm getting a lawyer down here daddy. And when he comes you'll be lucky if you end up in jail. Seven for help is only kinda helped. He's going to need the help of six pallbearers right. A lot of the back room. You and i ride not on a trail making sure that mr baldwin never gets back home Oliva baldwin stop long enough in rock springs before heading home to send me a telegram so enlisting the company and assistance. Jerry abandon the x medicine man who now owns the does reas livery stable. We lost no time in setting off for rock springs and piling up the dust to the to ranchos. This is the savage. But mr policeman has over here chan. Yep and from all appearances. Oliver baldwin seems to be one of the few really prosperous ranches. You might be able to pay counselor. What do you call a sizable fee. Then dollars for me and ten quarts of whiskey for you. Oh sizable fee. Should be twenty dollars. Oh i'm chad remington and this is mr bennett is mr baldwin home. I i'm dick seafood fell. It was smith who was the principal culprit adair cherokee no time to ask questions if miss dixie feels like talking. She'll tell us all it's necessary new before my father left the town that he'd never come back. What do you say that. Because he went into della handy with blood needs shygella handing. Who's he dope across in sheep stealing jasper who just opened a store in town. I can't prove it. I'm positive that they'll hand did. Why do you say that. Miss your father daddy. He threatened him. Planet see dylan moved to rock springs from springfield. A few months ago you started looking around for some ranch landed goodbye well. That explains potty father's telegram about affords deed so della hindi three hundred acres when the deed was filed. Three thousand. i see what you said. Your father was dry ghost and if he wanted to della had a store to threatening because it didn't think they'll a handy would do what he did and his own store do you with the bad guy and they just wait the door for minutes dixie. Yes if we recognize his rig outside that must be dell heavy at the door. Now wait a minute. Misty jerky and i had better go into the kitchen. While he's here. Don't wanna meet now any just yet. I'm going to be a lot of help. You wait a minute. I only want to let him explain my reasons delay. I come on numerous bowen. Yes as long as you're here. I hit about your father rate a week ago. I'd have felt sorry father and for you since he made his attitude very apparent yesterday. I'll just make this business call. Save myself the trouble of coming to see you again. Saved me trouble seeing you again. If other toll. Jewish may only three hundred acres. Didn't they did say fortunately. That part is passed argument when it came to see me yesterday. Asked me to promise that. I wouldn't tell you about this. Villa hundred had sailed from hundred head of cattle. It didn't think i was going to buy three thousand acres of land. Raise jack rabbits antigen. I bought a ranch father ranch with catalan. You missed a dela handy. I wanna tell you something. I'm sure you already know. This is nothing but forgery. You copied my father's signature from the original deed me. Of course you can prove that statement tree to get a sense enriching federal young lady that i told you the facts. I'm going back monday to take over my three thousand acres the cat along with it damon baldwin. Don't expect as your father's funeral into is fine high class. Gentlemen do you believe your father did sell them. Mcadoo hundred dollars. I'm forced to agree with young lady. Chance so am i. Rookie but that doesn't mean a judge and jury would now the first thing for us to do if miss dixie feels up to right into town and call on the sheriff If you can't really do exceed one thing proven another and how are you going to prove a thing like forgery when new admit you couldn't tell if it's your father signature or not. Well if you think. I'm going to be robbed of my ranch in my stock. You certainly got another thing coming. Law's the law consoled that is law and maybe i'd better make a few laws of mao dixie. Not going to get any place acting this way. Is your concern mr remington. Remember ask you to come down here. And if my father had known as much about you is at who now. I don't think he would have either. will return to the second act of branding. The badlands exciting frontier town adventure. In just a few moments or march thirteenth nineteen fifty three frontier town on classic radio theatre. Maybe you've heard about medishare and you know what it is. It's the affordable alternative to health insurance. But you've wondered. Can i really save a significant amount of money on my monthly healthcare bills. And the answer is an emphatic. Yes you can. You could save a lot money whether it's just for you or for an entire family. Medishare has an option for you fat. 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Well as i said before a cut and dried case doesn't always turn out to be just that not only. Was it a backbreaking job. Try to prove anything. Onside della handy. But dixie baldwin's attitude of bitterness was making my task no easy after dixies display of temper at the sheriff's office the abandoned and i somewhat grimly. I admit reminded our hoses and rode back to the two bars ranch. When we got there we found the dixie. Having seen his coming had gone into a bedroom bolted the door leaving us with a bit of a on faces. It's not much to do good deal to talk about. You know i'm not a man who lacks propriety. I want to go on record saying ball and is perhaps the most pigheaded philly. I've ever seen one of the most pucker. Tutors i might add. Yes indeed a final out a good poker to doing once he's locked up in a room has certain advantages that chad. For example she is not out here to play hostess. I could look through the kitchen cupboards to see if i could locate any refreshment ten type this one time. You need a clear head. Absolute my head is players about as in probably places enti art twice it again local benham. There's only one thing i do. We've got to inducements dixie to come out and listen to reason and then no two ways about that final women do. He's not coming out. Dixie can you hear me. I wanna talk to you. You're just wasting your nebraska bar dogana. It takes you. Stop acting like a spoilt island. Come out here may not come nick. You pack up of your father. Telegraph me to come out here. And well he needed some help. And if you and they say you ought to have their why you ungrateful little vixen open door. Someone's going to have to buy you a new one government and you're gonna get alerted buckshot all right cherokee that exists for ios good for something. Come on how many buses this door down. Let me to counseling. One bigs song manny. What do you think you're big enough to swallow. You wouldn't dare pull the trigger. Love is just like temporal on the service for your information. I'm not leaving rock springs yet and for your information. I don't care what you do as long as you get out of my house. Paneth come on jerky. We got a bit awry into doing fast. We did have a bit riding the do road back to town may tracks foot delegates general store where we call that mr della handy himself and mighty short order. Yeah i've heard about you. I've heard about you will. You wouldn't believe all. I hear sorry about you. I've got to believe really smart man. Wouldn't you talk as if i came here to make trouble. We didn't put normal cards of table. All of a in central me. When i got here he was dead. And in my humble opinion that daughter. Baldwin's is a double dive. Self will little fool. Oh is she after talking to the sheriff. I'm i'm sure of it. I look old one was supposed to pay me five hundred for coming here and it looks as if i'm not gonna get it so i thought maybe i could get part of it by making a deal with you the deal. Well the sheriff says there's no question in his mind that you bought and paid for hundred headed to bars. Cattle singer a merchant not a cattleman to make a deal to round up and brand that cattle wish. I could believe you. Why shouldn't you believe me on arranged to my own. And i'm telling you that rounding up and branding takes an expert. Besides if abandon. And i do the job for you and collect onto dollars will at least it made expenses and not leave rock springs. Total loses agree. If you've got to lose can long with us and make sure you're getting what you paid for. It's right at that. All right boys you can start the round up and planning tomorrow morning and prod right on hand to watch you Dixie won't even give me a chance to explain explained enough. You're going to do exactly what my father wanted to down here four. They have della hand to take possession of three thousand acres. Nine hundred hit catalina. Painful my dear lady has got a good reason for donate. If you don't stop thinking think of the time of the year it is you'd get some ideas why we don't stop trying to alibi. Your sounds maybe we'd all be happy me. Take you go this much. I'm gonna pay you back someday and show the world. What a pair of double dealing lowdown back button. Snakes you to really are since. That's all i have to say to you. You can get out of here now not sure your faces again to. Let's time for your roundup. Our check that loop on that yield it over here to the fire ready to brand. Show this brand design. We'll be all right for sure. Jersey say so on a very little trouble design triangle. Cross is unusual. You won't find it twice within a thousand miles a year ovine not taking through brandy. Who's gonna hold going brand. I'd better here the captain cherokee almost worn out already. Only reason i look worn out is. I am worn out branding before mr henny. Oh this is my first. You stop conversing cap. Yarn red haw turkey. Don't get the instructions. I gave you sir once over lightly. Okay all right here. We go All right jerky slap on that brandon. Because once we get this done we still got ninety. Hit that triangle. Trust believe me was mighty tough work. Branding on with st as well with the money della ahead was supposed to pass was late undock. By the time we'd finished so we arrange to have had to come back the next morning to cut out his cattle and drive them over to his own acres. But just before they'll ahead. He was dual jericho. Paid another. call on. Dixie boggled crazy. I should i go up to the corral while you go to over deliver. One hundred has stolen cadillac. Adela handy young lady. You're coming out to witness the delivery whether you want to or not so make up your mind of that. 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He's got to be a cattle. You let that so-called assistant of yours here to watch them overnight. Magicians must be handy. I don't know what's going on. There must be some mistake mistake. How they can't possibly be once more. You yourself gave miss baldwin receipt for one hundred head of cattle right after the brand name. But these aren't my cattle. Well i must admit the hundred head penned up in here are wearing the two bars. Maybe you moved your cattle during the night while we weren't around you think i'm crazy or something and i'm sure i don't know but since you admit these aren't a cavalier. You might just as well be on your way you tonight on how you did it but you would affect me. I did let me tell you this much and not going to get away with it. But maybe i have gotten away with. It seems to me that you've already signed the receipt for the delivery of your so-called cannons taking a catalyst anyhow not driving that hundred head out of here. I want you. You're going to russell. Miss baldur's cattle. I mean that you have a couple of aids and i'm taking what's rightly mine della anti you just made a couple of states. The first mistake was calling me. The've and the second was okay. Tried to steal cattle. Nothing but i'm filthy crooked going to finish wake up. Got another second you can finish. Which run about fifteen years. All right. sheriff. You can come out of those pushes now. Come on cheer if you saw della had tried to take one hundred head of cattle. That weren't wearing his brand. And i know that you know exactly what to do with cadillac's list. I've not even gone to apologize to you for all said did to. Dixie let will you please explain to me how you got away with that hocus pocus. When i saw your brand cattle with dell handy's ran myself miss all we did was cold brand. That's dot com code. Just what is a cold lane we'll dixie. I tried to explain to yesterday that you just wouldn't listen however Coal brand is a brand which only berms the hair off. Doesn't touch the hyde della handy being an eastern. It didn't know that this time of the year with the cattle shedding the hair. The hair fell out overnight. Leaving only the two bombers to show and the look on his. He saw that to to bars. Wonderful brand just imagine to bars and placing you mean cherokee cherokees Kind of hidden at now. That the jobs all over and della handy's on his way to jail. He like a little liquid refreshment. Oh come on. I've got a bottle of something own. What's the meta cherokee. You turn it out drink out last night. I got into the kitchen and brought the bottle down. Poor drinking the parlor but a very quickly gave it up. Who's calling for me too strong. You'll have to explain that way. When i poured some in the class a few drops fell on the maple table in the parlor. That liquor was so strong. 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Advise you to do the same. We'll do that. The city of clinton has filed claim for their school building. I have to make an investigation. Rough crowd mr dollar. Why did you meet them. All intend to fully just a minute. Not only did a school building burned down yesterday but a man died in that fire. It was something wrong with it. I want to get to the bottom of it. I expect help from you too. I'll stay here until i hear from you tonight night. And every weekday night bob bailey into transcribed adventures of the man with action packed. Expense account america's fabulous freelance insurance investigator. Truly johnny dollar expense accounts submitted by special investigator johnny dollar to united adjustment bureau for eighteen west sixty first street new york city. The following is an accounting. I've expended yours. During my investigation of the clinton matter that's clinton colorado expense account item. Five eighty cents telegram to dot and company denver. Insurance brokers would handle the policies covering the school building and clinton i requested them to forward copies of policies item. Six ten cents one copy of the clinton times and the full story on the fire. It was believed fire chief. Hanley that the fire had started because of overheated boilers in the heating system. Is it and that's right. I'm an insurance investigator. Well what can i do. Tell me about the fire yesterday. You sound like you're carrying chip on your shoulder mr dollar. We had word that building. Regularities were suspected in that school chief. The word came from the janitor. Julian osborne he burned to death and that fire yesterday and the buildings gone. Now you get head up as you want. A boy and i got my own troubles. I'll tell you what we think and you can take it whether you like it or not. We think old unionized might have passed out got drunk or a heart attack in that building. We think something like that happened in the boilers kept on going and build up the pressure. We think the boilers exploded. The fire started and that was that. Why do you think the whole place when tom because it spreads so why it spread. I didn't build a building. I just took care of the fire. You're going to have to change your attitude around here. If you want anybody to cooperate with you then tell me this. Why on a day when school wasn't in session with those boilers be fired up at all. I don't know chief last night. I talked to sheriff. Dorothy trying to get information about julian. Has he didn't know anything either. I also talked to florida. Hawkins the school principal. She didn't know now. You don't know anything who does i've done my job. Boy i've determined you've also given me a chance to look at you. Which was about. The only reason i came. I'll get information elsewhere. Chief the some people in this town. I wanna talk and tell me things you'll and your sheriff and whoever else is involved can't keep every mile this town shut and tell you i told him hawkins and at the northern hotel in case you remember anything. I can't hear your boy not one word. An expensive item. Seven dollar eighty breakfast in the coffee shop of my hotel for myself. And david bain. Who still badly batted from the beating. He taken the night before taking a chance sitting here with me. Hope you realize that. Am i m public enemy number one in this town. I'm the manno built the school. it didn't stay up. Look brains. I want you to tell me all about it. If you have any information or knowledge that would be helpful in this investigation. Then you'd better give out with it right now. What specifically do you want to know. I the town. You know what this place is a backyard. Only the rich kids can play here. Vickery hanley doria. Those are the rich kids mr dollar. The rest of us are well. We live across the tracks. Let's start with victory. He's a builder. Not only here all over these mountains. Grand junction rifle. All he's got a million dollars in a million angles. He's the one who sent me to europe to study per year. After i completed my plans for the new building got me out of the way okay. Far family a friend victories and any friend of victory is going to get rich one way or another sheriff darty orderly for victory very necessary. Okay the fire itself chief hanley says the school boilers blew up on caused the fire. There was no for those boilers to be fired up. No reason if they were fired they were fired to blow up. They had automatic shutoff equipment. What about doing an aspirin. You say notified the broker in denver. That something was wrong with the building. And that's how you got here. I don't know it might have fired it for money to. I told you i was in europe until they constructed. I got back in clinton four days ago. I went over to see my building. They use my outside drying dollar wooden. Beams indicated steel girders. Only half the plumbing and heating system other things look like. They've made it up as they went along that you talked to anybody about table. Sure the contract victory victory. He told me to keep my mouth shut and be a good thing. He got you out of town during the construction. So you wouldn't interfere. I think so. I'm not important. But it was the easiest way i understand. Mr victory is a little unpopular today on delegation went out to his house to hang him or something. Baynes was partially right. A delegation had gone out to see roy victory and his polish domain at the end of town. There was still there. When i drove up in my rented car. Twenty or thirty irate citizens demanding an explanation for the law school ten uniform men from sheriff doherty's office formed a half moon. Circle is one of the main entrance. Their host is buckle. The sheriff himself was directing the operation. Just their sheriff johnny dollar. I talked to you last night. Oh yeah chief hanley called me about you. The chief called you and last night you call flooring. Hawkins was nice. Keep the wires burning. Chief said you came over to seem used. Abusive language. Tried to cause trouble. Chief was mistaken. I wasn't trying to cause trouble. Sheriff there's enough of them this time just trying to find out how the fire started yesterday. She told you how it started. I didn't believe him. Now what do you think of that. You better watch your step around here mr dollar. You seem to be looking for arguments all the time. All sheriff. i'm misunderstood. We understand yellow round victory all right and he's going to stay all right. I'm sherry. well these people don't like this school burning down it's expensive also. The kids could have been in it. I wanna see mr victory about that. Isn't seeing anyone. Mr dollar and we aren't letting anybody in to see him. You people here that look here. Listen folks listen to me. You look i listen. I'm an insurance investigator. I'm worried about what happened. He is school yesterday. Keep quiet tell me. Mr vickery built at school. The architect who designed it said it wasn't built a his specification. Now i want to go in and ask vickery about that. The share of here doesn't want me to do that. Stoller wait a minute. The and just said. I'll get you for this. I'd hold it. Please please listen to me. Listen i'll put it through the sheriff again. So you can all hear sharif. I want to go in and see mr vickery on business. go ahead. Thank you direction from sheriff guarding the wedge of deputies. Open up long enough for me to walk through the wrought iron gate up the steps to the victory mention. A tall man in a white jacket answered the door into a den that was stocked with good liquor and big leather chairs. Finding a big man in a blue suit walked in. He had lots of good teeth in. There wasn't an ounce of fat on his two hundred and thirty pounds roy. Victory was quite an act with have already just now. I watched you from upstairs. That's a good safe place to watch from his victory jury. And what can i do for you. Tell me everything you can about that. School building is the city of clinton made a claim. Yet yes two hundred thousand dollars building and contents gotten pretty fat. We heard that might be something wrong with that building before the fire. Apparently that was who told you a thing like that not spend. He's dead now you know to explode and there's something wrong with the building that the way you people figure. Yeah well soda. We and we couldn't find anything wrong. Who's we fish the civic construction department. We just had a meeting. We thought we ought to. Yeah i figure those people hanging around outside should be worrying. They don't worry mean you don't worry me a drunken janitor goes to sleep and lets the boilers kick up and the joint blows apart and burns down. We decided in the meeting was a terrible accident will have to use an old garage or something for a school. But then we'll get around to building another school with the insurance money we have coming. And that's that that's that. Was the victory like a copy of the specifications that went into that building. Good to all yard. Okay that'll do good. Now you can get out of my house dollar. You smell smoke. Fifty pages of specifications on the building materials used in the construction of that school. They looked all right. They also looked as though they could have been forged expense account item. Eight six dollars bottle of whiskey for david bain's in myself and my hotel room baines went over the specifications page by page. Okay what do you think. He's specifications more or less. This is what's on paper that went into the building. How about what actually went into what little i saw. They cut corners everywhere. The outside was just a shell of this stuff. You're sure these mit notes. I can remember this much. Can you remember it in front of a notary. I want us more than statement. I don't know you know. Look at me that way. You're going to get my statement and possibly have a dozen other statements on paper. You'd have a case. Then what would you do. Go to the district attorney. We haven't got a district attorney. We got a county attorney who is elected for a four year term. I'll go to him. Victory then i'll go to somebody else. The insurance commission. You try to go any farther. They'll kill you. Let me worry about that. Now do you make a statement. Sorry kill me too. And that's the way matters stood in colorado twenty four hours. After new school building at burned down on a man had died in the flames. Everyone seemed an all all wrong but no one was willing to do anything about us dollar. Yes i did very early. I think they're fakes. Mr victory. I didn't ask you your opinion but you've got it well. I'm sure you're entitled to it when when you're leaving town for a while i was kinda hoping you'd be leaving in about an hour. Make good connections then. I haven't really gotten around as much as i wanna yet. So i mean i can tell you anything. I'll get around to you again out of town dollar vickery. There are times when i don't hear good. Now here's all star to tell you about tomorrow's intriguing episode of this week story tomorrow. A lady who promised to love honor and they'll bay a building inspector but wound up a widow. Join us. won't you yours truly johnny dollar yours. Truly johnny dollar starring bob. Bailey is transcribed in hollywood. Written by john dawson. It has produced and directed by jack. Johnstone join us tomorrow night. Same time and station for the next exciting episode of yours. Truly johnny dollar. 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They're more likely to swipe right on someone who has a dog in their dating profile they also said seventy percent of singles believe having a dog in their profile helps them get more matches on dating apps now some other interesting findings almost five out of ten dog owners said they would break up with someone if their dog didn't like them go. Well i i think that's kind of a given is i mean if you go visit someone and their dog just growls at you evening. Chances are that you're not gonna get along with that person. Your dog may know something about that person and want you to avoid him or her. That's true another interesting. Finding fifty five percent of dog owners would rather quarantine with their dog than their significant other. Okay now that's sad. I mean even you know for dog owners. Come on really. You don't want to quarantine with your significant other. Although the dog usually doesn't talk back argue with you The survey found that the top five dating apps to meet other dog lovers in order where tinder match bumble army and farmers only trying to figure out which pets you're gonna be with farmers only might be a pig or a horse didn't have to be a dog right but otherwise and it's not cats either right it's all about. It was a study on drugs. Okay interesting not sure how i feel about that but i guess if you have a cute puppy in your dating profile then it's like aw you know there's a chance but if you have major who has taken away from the white house for eating a security person that you've heard about that of course yes yeah majors. Minor incident may yeah majors minor incident at the white house where made him get sent back to to delaware but anyway but i digest interesting though i think oh apple finally trying to reduce its reliance on china reports indicate that apple will begin manufacturing iphones in india soon while it's only quote up to ten percent of capacity unquote that will be moved from china. It's a good start. Citing sources in the no business standard reports that foxconn will begin production in tamil nadu india and of course regardless of where. Your iphone is built. It still won't come with a charger in the box. So don't think oh. I want the one from china. Because maybe i'll get a charger now. You're not gonna get a charger anyway. Yeah well open. We opened another smartwatch that came in for us to review the other day. Also know plug things. Nothing's coming with these cubes anymore. Because they say well you get them with everything so everybody has a draw of them but what happens when we no longer have a drawer. Full of them. Yeah for you've gone to something. Maybe usb c something different and you don't have a drawer full of them and then what do you do. Well you have to go. Buy one speaking of apple. According to a report from the k. Asia apple is cutting production of the iphone. Twelve many in the first half of this year. plan production of the smallest iphone. Twelve model has reportedly been reduced by seventy percent or more making up a majority of a twenty percent cut in total iphone twelve production. Some suppliers have been asked to temporarily stopped producing iphone. Twelve many specific components while other parts are being reallocated to the pro and pro. Max the report is the latest indication that apple's miniature addition to its flagship. Smartphone hasn't lived up to expectations last month. Reuters reported that sales of the twelve mini had made up just five percent of apple smartphone sales interesting. Well we follow these things anyway but obviously if a company's not doing as good as they thought they should they need to drop something like that and at the same time. Samsung is coming out. Allegedly with their A unboxing or unveiled or some goofy event on saint patrick's day. I believe it is where they're going to introduce another mid range galaxy of some sort if they don't have enough of those out kind of kind of bizarre. Mcdonald's one of the pioneers of modern fast food has decided to try going a step further somewhere in a chicago suburb an. Ai is currently taking drive-thru orders. What could possibly go wrong. Exactly the voice itself was described as female similar to alexa or siri. It's connected to a digital menu board and can even suggest food if you're unsure about what to order. Now they're saying it can be a little bit unsettling to hear robotic voice greets you inside the the voice of human employees but it might be something to get used to if mcdonald's decides to roll this out to all locations now the idea is that the a i will take care of. Orders allow human employees to focus on. I say this with our coats. Accuracy and quality food items. Oh yes those are both things that mcdonald's a lot of helping write these high school. Kids do such a good job of that already. Yeah that's why they're replacing them with kiosks right now. If we were a political show. I would say this is what happens because you know an i won't want fifteen dollars an hour but this is not a political chanel so i'm not going to want to say that i had somebody sent me a note the other day that they used to listen all the time and they don't want politics with their tech so they don't listen anymore yet. He heard me say something that week. So i don't know how he doesn't listen anymore. He heard me say that but a well. I wonder if the hey i would say. Do you want fries with that. Maybe see should be a key thing. Don't you think that was your last holdout for when you finally have to close the show. Because he said that whenever you fully retire because you can never really retire. You'd have to get another job with a microphone so you'd be working drive through somewhere. You're being replaced already with a i. I know i'm surprised you haven't replaced me with a after twenty six years. I've probably have said everything. Every word that i ever needed to say and that you could just replace me and edit the heck out of me forever we've tried but even you know your voice over the last twenty five has changed. Yeah well like now. Two months worth of swollen vocal cords and laryngitis. See i'm not gonna retire. I'm just going to have terminal laryngitis. God forbid this is not good and it doesn't feel good either but your sounding better but what you're saying though is now i can't even be a walmart greeter because i'd have to say hello or here ola well walmart years ago they don't have them all together. Yeah see. i don't ever go there anymore to wally world. So they got rid of the greeters. Yeah haven't had in years. Well i thought that was going to be my retirement job. That's i always figured you end up a drive through somewhere. So set up a gofundme page for for dave terminal laryngitis account. Yeah good luck with that. Apple's teaming up with common sense media to help parents find kid friendly podcasts. From its vast library of shows from a new website at dot. Co slash shows for kids which launches apple podcasts. Were by the way you can also get into tomorrow. For example the kids podcasts are categorized by age group as well as by theme at launch the collection features creators like tinker cast gen z media tumble highlights member highlights for kids rebel girls and nickelodeon among others. Oh they don't have rebel guys. Paul boy there's gonna be a problem. I can see that woke enough. But i love. Commonsense media is something that i use as you know as the father of an eight year old or sorry an eight and three quarter year old because apparently the three quarters is important. Yes and he will tell you since be nine in a couple of weeks. Oh yes oh yes. More than eight and three quarters april seventh. It's going to be nine. But but i use that website a lot especially when he brings up shows and movies that he wants to watch. I will often go to the common sense media. Website see the reviews because they have not only the people reviewing but they have parents that review kids review. They tell you what the parents suggest. The kids age should be before watching this particular show. And then what the kids say. Of course the kids. What kids say is always younger than what the parents say. Of course. yeah so but then the kids probably okay with most everything. Yeah but the parents are not so okay depending on age group. And that's a good idea. So you do you go to do. They do for movies and tv. Shows video games books. It's a great site songs. I'm not sure about song who because they should. Although i am so proud of young cameron because he will ask alexa for to play a song and he will always say clean version or radio edit because he does not want to hear bad words. And i'm very proud of him for that because he's always on the alert to make sure that he's not hearing something he shouldn't it a couple of weeks ago. I was putting some clothes away in his roman. He's in his bathroom taking a shower and he brought his his echo in there with him so he can listen to. Music has an echo of battery bay. So he can pick it up and take it with him so you know he's in there. You know alexa play. So and so i'm sorry. I can't play that due to explicit filters serve odd dang it said dang it. Yeah 'cause you know sometimes this cameron can say the cutest things come and you wind stuff. Thank you thank you cameron. But i'm so proud of him for that and we hope he does it also when we're not around because he said he does but you know he he always does it when we're there or for in the car. And he asked if he can ask for a song or something but he always asks for the clean version or the radio edit knowing that although radio edits these days are getting away with a lot more than they used to. You know. But i'm glad i overheard that with alexa because i had forgotten that i put those filters on on his echo device unglamorous to see that i actually did well because if apparently was a song he thought he wanted to hear. Maybe he didn't know it would be playing a non clean version or something but when he has played something that said a bad word at least around me. He stopped it immediately built. Stop and then. He'll either ask for the clean version or go on to some other song. Which again proud of him for that but good to know that common sense media does what it does end even better to know that apple is now teaming up with them for kids podcasts. So you go. I hope they have into tomorrow in the kids podcasts. 'cause we're kid-friendly are we not most of the time i mean we let julio hang around. Were kid friendly. That's gotta work. I'm sure for something and of course. A reminder we're coming to you from the decks com g six studios no before you go high or low with customizable alerts and alarms visit dax com dot com. That's decks com dot com can't chandler texas listens to us on k. Tbb am and fm. He can't. I recently got noticed that my battery on my dell latitude laptop is nearing the end of its useful life. I wonder if this is a part that i can purchase in easily. Replace myself the older batteries or just clip in. But this new one is only installed by taking out some screws. And i'm not very confident in my ability to get inside my top. If i had to take the laptop apart at all. I'm not interested in that. So i'd like to know how difficult it is to replace the battery in that. Well can't i. Don't blame you because when you take something apart especially electronics and then you put it back together and you've got spare parts. Leftover never a good sign and then especially if it doesn't work right but it really depends on your specific model. The latitude line is pretty big. But on modern laptops it will definitely take a little bit more work than with the old clip in models. As you mentioned if there isn't a specific compartment for the battery that you can access from the outside than del probably considers it not user replaceable. But don't let that dissuade you if you want to hang onto your laptop for a while longer. That mostly means they're not going to make it easy for you. Normally replacing a battery involves removing the whole bottom plate the laptop. Now when you do that you need to be careful because some manufacturers stick cables to it to keep them from moving around you can usually peel them off easily. Just don't pull as soon as you open it up until you know that you won't be pulling anything off oops yeah from there. Things will vary depending on the model. Batteries are large so they're usually easily accessible but laptop components are pretty packed in there. So sometimes they're connectors are buried under some other part. Go great now. If you're going to attempt this look for step by step guides online with pictures. I fix it. Dot com is a good place to start those. We'll show you both what to expect and how to reverse what you did. If you have to keep some tray of course very handy for screws there tend to be quite a few in different sizes lashley. Be very gentle with everything you remove. You don't want to crack a small piece of plastic and have a loose connector to deal with after you put the laptop back together and always be careful when you do this. I replaced this last week and replace the battery inside my samsung gear. Smartwatch and i was very successful with that a few years ago. I tried to replace the battery myself in an ipad. I was very unsuccessful. Never use the ipad again. Yeah so if you're worried about you can also look into places like you break fix. There's a lot of companies that will do that to you. Just take it in there and most of them will give you a free price before they do it. So you can tell how much it's gonna be but you know battery if you decide to do it yourself as probably not going to be too hard. Just try to find a guide for your specific latitude model before you start. But don't think that you won't be able to do it just because they're not clip on anymore. Yeah so can't do let us know. I don't blame you for not wanting to dive into it literally. But maybe chris's input about take it to one of these. You fix it places and just ask. Hey what would you charge me to replace the battery and you know. Ask them if they have it in stock. Or how long would it take together. Should you order it. You know that sort of thing at least you have a better idea and hopefully feel more comfortable into tomorrow dot com where we'll have all of our show notes as well this being the show for the weekend of march twelfth two thousand and twenty one back in a minute. 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You don't have to wait till you hear the next broadcast or stream or podcast or whatever you can call twenty four seven and that's eight hundred eight nine nine into eight hundred eight nine nine four six eight six anytime even better. We love it when you use the free into tomorrow app and participate that way. Because you sound like you're right here with us in the studio. Our next guest is with a global route optimization software technology company. that's a mouthful right there. But he's the co founder and vp of operations for company called route for me and he is george george. Welcome in to tomorrow. Thanks for spending a couple of minutes with us. How you doing very well. How are you. I'm doing well thanks Tell me about the company route for me. And then let's get into how you do what you do helps us as consumers absolutely routes for me is a cloud based solution that empower small businesses to compete better in last mile. What does that translate to the consumer. It translates to the consumer. That's when getting packages of service or virtually anyone will come to you that can do it more efficiently and a more transparently because the world is changing over. The last you know five years and now those coveted the more People expect people to come to them. They don't want goal to business. Deal won't business to comes down. So our platform empowers businesses to do it in the most efficient way so they don't have to buy more trucks. They don't have to get more people on the road can do it. More efficiently important more transparently. So the consumer knows exactly when the person's thumbing where they are in the road was on they're gonna be there and get a confirmation of completion of service that were deliverance on. So do you basically compete. Then with the likes of fedex and ups and for that matter prime and that kind of thing. I mean i'm trying to get a picture as to what it is. It you do or does route for me pretty much work with the individual businesses that have a fleet of trucks that are out delivering. Things correct. We do not compete with fedex. Ups amazon by by any means we are a software solution that empowers a small businesses as well as enterprise to be a to a software piece of to make them more efficient and more transparent to the consumer. Gotcha so basically we've happening. Then is i guess. In the morning somebody can load a truck and then your software will then start the route situation where it shows the boy. We're having a huge a thunderstorm. Here in miami tis the season. So if you see a glitch or hear the thunder you'll know why in spite of a soundproof studio Not so soundproof. When it comes to mother nature but then your software then. I'm assuming take all the addresses and the best routes because they're perhaps have very many multiple deliveries and rather than be What i used to call an old star salesman you go here and then here and then here and then back here again which is not only wasting time and fuel and everything else But now we'll route them to start at one point and take care of all the deliveries. Is that basically what you do. That's that's more or less correct. I mean look businesses a lot of times. You may by drivers ten drivers or meeting on one hundred jars. You need a figure out what set of customers or packages. The person's going to be taken onto the truck and what sequence. They're going to be delivering. Our system can automatically in just few seconds and sell the driver of the company which is gonna take package. And what sequence. They're going to deliver it. And furthermore communicated to the consumer when they can expect a deliberate and furthermore which consideration many business rules such as a priority for example highly Abide almost specific time lindo when the wedding is three delivered by the consumers expecting it by eleven o'clock in the bates a premium for Our system will take that into consideration chickens consideration traffic weather. Were you know when you deliberate in the rainy conditions. Performance generally dropped so we take a lot of his business roles in real world conditions into consideration when leading routes does sound like there are several big challenges to logistics. It's not just the routing as you mentioned it could even be whether it if you can take that into consideration then you routing drivers around anticipated thunderstorms or or whatever the case or if they have perishable items as you say and there might be a very short delivery window. You've gotta know that and get them their first right right and there's a lot of Conditions that you know as many people said a lot of times people have been operating on territory based routing has been very popular over the last ten twenty thirty years now but the difference is is that in this day and age. You can't predict density of stops in a specific area for for for example. Northern part of new jersey could be super-busy today but tomorrow would could be seventy percent busy because the consumer just didn't order as much but south jersey. sports trending photo so thing is doing the whole territory routing. Then you have to start flexing and then you have to start doing many different things. That are gonna be shifting. Drivers packages between drivers are system all of that automatically and simplifies not just being in the field of their planning process. Because it's a very Complicated process in In a large organization they have many people that do in this for small businesses. It was not realistic to do it. So when we started a company At this point Eleven years ago we tried to find a solution that would be suitable for a small business owner for example And there was just nothing out there. There were companies that want x. Charge a quarter million dollars which was not realistic for small businesses to purchase. So we'd released a self service easy to use platform that empowers small businesses to compete and as well as giving larger organizations access to the same tools so they can be Not that on the internal tools or whatever. It is that they do to use our platform. That is empowered by hundreds of thousands of drivers every day in the field and at the risk of of giving up your secret sauce. I'm wondering how is it that your software can take all these things into consideration. I mean it's one thing to may be connected to a weather site for your area or these these territories or something like that but you brought up a lot of challenges that obviously your customers have to deal with. How is it the bowl to combine all of that. You know whether north jersey is busy today. Verse in south jersey that kind of thing so the way we we will look at is when we started the company knew several companies that provided the servants and we could have licensed the technology with a realized. A lot of those companies had shortcomings so we developed our own build on engine Which we have. Phd's of their subject matter experts in specifically field Tenure at universities that worked for us. This people are you know. Brilliant an teachers as well as such experts and they help us build the platform. You know the routing engine part of it take into consideration all the data such as traffic weather. There's many platforms that we you can purchase Current weather and you can purchase the predictive weather modeling. And then you can take that into consideration and then you can adjust the service time along you gonna be actually visiting a location. Alberta's traveling traveling. You know if view new york which. I am traffic The big problem lately. Maybe a little more predictable with fewer people in the city. But when we're out of the pandemic and we're back to whatever normal is you've got to be working on those things which kind of brings me to another point. How vital has route optimization bend during the pandemic. i mean different things that you've had to deal with. It's it's been critical since more when the hope that angle sorry i. I was very surprised this was happening. I mean all of us. And i didn't know what is going to happen back on our business and i you know we have to be conservative. Plan for the worst but we spite because thousands more delivers were happening every hour that hundreds of businesses coming to us every week purchasing are asking us to teach them how to do deliberate and we had to do webinars helping small businesses. As to you know this is how you take. This is when you do a cutoff for the order. You can't be receiving waters at nine o'clock in the morning when you supposed to start delivering not gonna be able to complete the rats. So there's a lot of businesses the covid is a catalyst cab. It increased velocity at when some businesses jumped into delivery or increase day. Delivery presence When you have you know one truck or one delivery guy in your house. Twenty packages into deliver. You probably can just use our mobile app or just kind just trust. The driver made the decision. That once you start to grow and you're getting since sixty hundred deliveries then. You're getting into two hundred fifty at most drivers that's what the nuances and and Gets it becomes difficult to make those decisions efficiently and the thing is most of our customers that come to us. They say between twenty to thirty percents looney deliver costs. Software does not actually cost anything to because as itself often just several days. Gotcha well where do you see the whole Delivery optimization logistics world headed into tomorrow if you will what what can you predict where we're going a notwithstanding pandemic and back to normal. Obviously you've got a good business plan going. But where do you see this whole gist business happening into tomorrow. Of course look. I think the last mile is going to become bigger and bigger over the next five to ten years. I think we're going to get more consumers become more. They become comfortable shopping online from groceries to medicine. And so on because look. I did not shop for groceries before call. I just wanted to the supermarket. I got stop yeah. I'm the same way because why would you. I mean a lot of people did because it was convenient. I didn't want to pay the extra charges and have to wait for it. If i want something you go get it. It hasn't been that easy so good point that more and more people perhaps are going to continue to do the online shopping deliveries after things. Get back to normal. Is it perfect. It's don but it's getting better and at this point right now i. I feel comfortable going outside and shopping by valentine's. But i still order groceries online. Because i just got in the customer with industry and i think that the market's gonna ship to that more and more parents shifted to that Medicine now comes or delivering. So it's it's been very odd. The market is shifting towards deliver. I think that small businesses to be more conscious that no call it may not be as affecting their businesses as much today because you know countries hopefully recovering on economic lands on but it doesn't mean that the shifts is not there. His shift is there. People want more delivery. People want businesses to come to them and that trump is not gonna stop. And that's when you look at amazon is spending billions of dollars into improving the supply chain hooting more warehouses than competing small businesses. That are present in the area so small businesses already have a place in in town. They don't need to build. Anything can just use that hub to deliver to the customers. They don't have to wait for customers to come to just go to down. So there's definite opportunity there for small businesses to take charge now in and take a good chunk of the market terrific route. The number four me dot com is where you wanna go route for me for route planning for your small business or even a large business and george. We thank you for spending a few minutes with us. Of course we'll get everybody there if they stopped by into tomorrow dot com as well and continued. Good luck thank you very much s. It's it's our pleasure again. Route four me. The number four me dot com visit into tomorrow dot com. And we'll get you there a mouse. Click away from georgia site. You'll see what he and his team are up to meantime. I'm dave grave line bringing you further into tomorrow right here. On the advanced media network automated tex-mex data rates may apply. Hi i'm frank. Thomas the big hurt after i left baseball. I just couldn't stay in shape like i used to turns out. Once you hit forty. Your body has less free testosterone and that can make it harder to get into shape. So i got back into the game with nugenix. I'm feeling stronger with a lot more energy and drive. 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This portion of into tomorrow is brought to you in part by stream guys dot com providing twenty four seven stream of into tomorrow at our website at into tomorrow dot com. Greg in manchester tennessee. Listens to the free into tomorrow podcasts. Now provided by blueberry. Hey greg in china. I've got to tip had a sign on your internet there instead of eighty bucks a month You can t mobile has a separate device. That's unlimited high-speed fi download if you get the signal at your house through their their device they send you they send you a big tar fifty bucks a month issues auto pay fifty five. You don't use huddle payments tax and everything but wanted to give you all separate option. Get out of the comcast on the wifi because it has high speed and it's available nyeri. I'm not using it yet but But you might might work down where you're in down there in miami to 'cause it's nationwide service anyway. I wanted to spread some joy to somebody's having seen issues name wildfire and don't want to pay a lot of money well thank you. Greg appreciate that you can remember. We're in miami but you don't remember. The sun is chris. even even the couldn't remember the name. i appreciate the first the input greg however. There's a couple of issues with that one. It's not available in my area. Of course we're still stuck with kana cash and to even if it was my t. mobile signal strength in. My house is probably worse than my comcast possible. 'cause i rely on my wifi connection a lot when when t mobile to make my phone calls over wi fi because my t. mobile's stinks but verizon also has a similar thing verizon five g at home which i looked into also not available in my mind. Gosh and you're in miami lakes course the very very south west corner right before little havana. Actually hialeah same thing. 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Welcome into tomorrow with dave grave. Line the radio network program with the latest in high tech products and services and the experts who bring them to you. This is into tomorrow. Here's dave gray line. It's into tomorrow for the weekend of friday march twelfth. Twenty twenty one during our twenty sixth year on the air. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you in advance for calling in. I'm dave grave line. I'm chris grapevine. And we've got folks gathered round to help you solve your digital dilemmas. More of our team. Like nozomi and hialeah gardens rossmo in south beach and beth in naples and came in coconut. Creek and horatio in new york city. We're scattered all over the place. Even julio in the control room on the other side of that glass and glad to have you tuned into tomorrow at mention even happier when you call in and participate on the program. How does one best do that to join us anytime. Twenty four seven with the message to studio up in the free into tomorrow. App is available on both apple and google devices. So i have that app. Oh good well you can use it to message the studio and it'll sound like you're right here. No because my current laryngeal voice. They'll say who's this new pretending to be. Dave but i am dave and it's getting better. I mean if you've listened to me the last over the last two months. I've gone from virtually nothing and just painful trying to speak to almost having my voice back still cracking. Who was a nice quiet month here. The hat cute well. Of course doctor's orders don't speak unless you have to in the studio good luck with that. Yeah that hadn't worked out well. Although i've been much quieter around the office true. I do messaging for everything but back to how to participate on the show. I did ask that question. Us the message option in the app. Which allow you to record a A question comment listener helping listener. Which we like to call it. You've helping somebody else with a question may have had raise tech raids with us. Want to say hi or what you're saying. Hi as a prize but you can still say hi but maybe somebody wants to just share their favorite app these days and why. It's a favorite app. Those are fun calls to and it turns other people on two things they may not know about. We're all about turning people on or you could a participant the old fashioned way you can pick up the phone and dial those digits eight hundred eight nine nine four six eight six. thanks for those digits. Eight hundred eight nine nine into alright. Some tech news and commentary and then back to your calls like georgia in georgia standing. How about that. I just noticed that. Facebook's mark zuckerberg is featured in the information advocating for the future use of smart glasses. That get this. He believes could help. Mitigate climate change challenges by reducing the need for you to travel right zuckerberg actually said that people could use the technology to virtually attend in person meetings. Okay and ultimately eliminate commutes. Okay so. I guess that he and his wife will stop vacationing all around the world. And just do it virtually because he wants to solve climate change. That's the thing. Because i've always wanted to visit greece but i'm not gonna put the pair of air goggles or something and say. Oh that's the same thing going there. You sure you walk around the acropolis and stuff and i i. Would i look at it and tell you if it was as when i was there it pretty much the same beginning. Funny yeah i helped build it But if you're not tripping over stones it's not the same thing and then you don't want to be falling in your living room because you're on the you're at the top of the acropolis and looking out over athens and stuff and how nice it is so. I don't recommend that either. It might be cool if you want to watch some videos and then at least determine where you want to visit but for zuckerberg to suggest that you do that instead of visiting places you want to see around the world i think is stupid. Look where the goal is gonna come from. Oculus oculus facebook facebook. Yeah exactly makes all their money from facebook zack. Cooper who who's the product of facebook you know so that just goes to show typical scenario more than half a million people have signed up to a newly launched service called dr be in an attempt to snag a covid. Nineteen vaccine dr. Beware yes And reduce the number of doses. That might end up. In the trash. Led by jacques. Founder cyrus masami. Dr bees a website that aims to function as a kind of emergency alert system for thaad corona virus vaccines which typically need to be injected within. Six hours of being fahd. Missed appointments have become an unusually vital issue for the vaccine masami estimates as much as twenty to thirty percent of vaccine appointments are missed leaving thaad vaccination dose that must be used within six hours or be permanently. Lost dr b.'s. Designed to serve as a kind of standby list for those situations giving providers and easy way to summon willing patients in a matter of hours now when a provider ends up with thaad dose that they need to to give dr be sends out text messages to participants in nearby. Zip codes prioritizing them. According to the state health departments tearless now once texted a participant has fifteen minutes to confirm that they can get to the provider than two hours to reach the location and get their shot. Wow i mean. I think that's great because we've heard about places all over the country certainly here in south florida where they've had to throw some stuff away because they used up everybody that was in line. Use them up. They've given shots. Everybody that was waiting and they've thawed too much. And that is if people mr points they don't show up they end up. Usually most places have a waiting line. We'll start giving them out to that of giving the staff members but then they still have some leftover they throw them away or they can use a service like this to try to get people in dr be. Yes look for that app and let's not waste any more. Vaccinations stuff that's important. Facebook has launched a campaign attacking apple for an upcoming privacy feature that the social media company argues will hurt small businesses. Google plans to group users by interest without personal details pleases facebook more but advocacy rather privacy. Advocates are very less impressed. I mean come on. Nobody's impressed with facebook. And google or apple or anybody else trying to say. Oh we're going to help keep things private for you because we know that's nonsense that that's how they make their money is making sure that our information gets out and speaking of t mobile will soon put a new privacy policy into effect that will allow it to share certain kinds of customer information with third party advertisers. It will allow it to do that. S nice. they're allowing themselves to do that right. starting april twenty six all customers will be automatically opted into the new program. Customers want to participate will need to manually opt out using their accounts privacy tools. So if you're a t mobile customer listen up autumn in to their sharing your information unless you opt out and this is something that as soon as this news break you and i both logged into some. We opted out exactly. Can we make sure put that info on this week show page at into tomorrow dot com look for our two and in the first segment. We'll have talked about it. Make sure we have h. And his team at it. Because let's just provide the link directly where you gotta sign into your t mobile account but then there's a link where you can simply click to buttons. Turn off their ability to share your information and we highly recommend it to all t mobile users but guess what it's not just t. mobile yet the policies. No different than over is now. It isn't about face for former sprint customers. However because of course t mobile acquired sprint now t mobile acknowledges in its announcement that the policy change that sprint a similar opt in service or than an opt-out one but they're making all the former sprint customers automatically be in it. Yes unless you get out of correct. Oh my gosh. Vesta the codename for amazon's home robot is reportedly in the final stages of development. So you've been wanting to home but the company said to be approaching the rollout cautiously and is reportedly considering an invite only product launch similar to its fitness ban halo. So don't expect you can just run out and buy yourself a vesta. Good last thing i need is another amazon device in my house. I know taking over a wonderful. If you can ask vested go get you a beer. I don't know if it has arm and learned that might be the dealmaker. Okay all right. Well you might have to trade in your other amazon trinkets in order to pay for this. But it could be interesting. Well let me know if you get a invite because it's an invite only initially. That'd be interesting. Yeah see the next time. You're browsing through your twitter timeline. On your phone you might notice a small impactful change to how the service handles images with a small subset of android users. Twitter has started testing full-sized picture previews allowing users to see timeline images in their original aspect ratio before starting the test twitter. Crop all non sixteen by nine images to maintain uniformity on your timeline. This change will make it so that you don't have to tap on an image to see it in its entirety. of course twitter hasn't said when or even if the cropping change will make it to all users now so hugh might look out or not. Yeah it's hurry up and wait. A typical the companion dog training smart device uses sensors and artificial intelligence to study a pups movement and then reinforces good habits. The platform also offers companion coaches human trainers who offer tailored video sessions with dog owners. So if you're having some difficulty training your puppy you might wanna look into the companion dog training smart device but when they say that they use sensors to reinforce good habits. I'm assuming it's not like shock collar because that would not be a good habit if they did something wrong. Yeah so maybe it just has a little vibration. That's pleasing when they fetch or when they sit on a little arm that's out of the device so that you know it'll the dog's head when it does something good and says good dog who's a good dog. Yeah that could be. I don't know we'll find if you notice a change of language the next time you add a show on apple podcasts. You won't be alone pod news and nine to five mac report. That apple is changing the option to subscribe to a podcast to follow as of ios. Fourteen point five and it's ipad less counterpart while apple hasn't explained the change. It's likely a simple matter of perception. A lot of people say that subscribe implies that you're paying for recurring cost and that might put off new listeners. Who might not yet realize that most podcasts. Including the into tomorrow. Podcasts are free. Apple is however not all tech show. Podcasts are free right. There are some that. Have the nerve to charge. People for their podcast. We don't know apple isn't the first to use the follow language spotify amazon and stitcher already. Do how ever. Apple's move may make a significant impact on podcast uptake. So what you're saying is we should no longer be saying. Subscribe to our free podcast. Sika subscribe has a connotation of may be costing even if follow with free. We should be saying. Follow our podcast. Apparently this is what the apple spotify amazon institue think. Gee can we say subscribe and follow our free. Podcast won't cost you anything right. Wouldn't that kind of wrap everything. We'll get a nice little bow. Because i don't want to do it just because apple says georgia in atlanta georgia. I love that listens on. Am nine twenty the answer. Hello georgia welcome into tomorrow. Hi dave. I'm frustrated by not being given an icon for the option to print articles online any longer. Why am i no longer able to print so easily. Well believe it or not georgia. There are two big reasons. The first one is that printing is just not very popular anymore for the most part fewer people browse with computers and fewer people. Still have printers even at home. If you ever go to a show where people can buy tickets online. You'll see just how many phones get scanned at the door. The same goes for airlines and boarding passes are trained for that matter or even coupons at shops people just typically don't print much anymore because they don't need to the other reason though is the main one. It's hard to provide those buttons. Believe it or not. Yeah in the old days websites. Were extremely simple. That's the old days the old They all had the same basic markup optimized for roughly the same resolution so printing was pretty much adapting one look to a printed page format and moving on modern websites are very complex they typically use css or front end frameworks to style. What the user sees and how they see it the way. Css cascading style sheets. Or if you care but this is a fancy way to say that these websites are made so that you can look at the site on your computer on your phone tablet and be able to see all those places and that the site can determine what kind of device you're on to offer up the best look for that site ours is the same way yeah. Things are hidden in the background pages or made responsive to adaptable small phones and large white screen monitors and they rearrange themselves to fit a different resolution. Different browsers need to be taken into account to ensure that everything always looks the way it should now. Adopting a page like that to a printed version would need more custom s and it would mean both catering to the different browsers in the market and staying on top of updates of the page always prints like it should that sounds like a whole lot of things but it's things like web developers have to worry about now. That means a lot of work and a lot of cost but most importantly it means that an end user of cms or content management system like wordpress. Drubel can't do it now. Those are the services that many companies using moving us to do the websites they need to hire programmers to build the printing. Logic can just keep it working which in the vast majority of cases is just not worth it true because georgia. Most people aren't looking to print the page now. Granted if you want to print a coupon from a page or a picture from a page or a section of a page you can use a snipping tool swimming. Taylor what i've done and works in a lot of cases. Is you know. I've had to print an article. We news and i want to bring a printed page in your copied and pasted into a word doc or a google or any any kind of word processing daca imprint. That sometimes that will work as well or sometimes if you hit control p it'll bring up a print menu and it may or may not again depending on how the site is laid out allow you to print that page but a lot of times it's going to be a lot more information and it's gonna print five or six pages and probably out of order and weird and just it's just not very feasible anymore. Somehow that reminded me of ten or eleven years ago when you're when your mom passed away i mean we're going through stuff and we found like six boxes. Apparently she printed every single email. Anybody ever center. I know i'd love her. But i don't know why she felt compelled to always print everybody's emails but she did and she kept edge. She did kept kept them all boxes and boxes of emails and while it was very strange of course she was using that web tv tv. Is that sell around. nobody would use it. 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Still cracking sorry for the weekend of friday march. Twelve twenty twenty one. I'm dave grave line. I'm chris grapevine one of the keys to good health is a good night's sleep but many people suffer from sleep apnea chris. And don't even know it what you do because you have a cpap with this week's into tomorrow. Health tech minute brought to you by decks com. Here's alfred poor. Thanks dave sleep is one of the most overlooked health factors lack of sleep. Quality can lead to all sorts of complications including high blood pressure. Heart disease and diabetes. Now one common causes sleep apnea in which you're breathing is interrupted which in turn disrupts your sleep. The gold standard for diagnosis is to spend the night in a sleep clinic. Hooked up to wires under the watchful eye of technician but this can be uncomfortable and inconvenient which is part of the reason why many people don't wanna get tested. The pandemic lockdown has only made. This worse the vivo score system uses a smart ring that pairs with an app on your smartphone and sends data about heart rate pulse ox and sleep apnea events to the cloud. For processing and analysis then trains physicians screened the results and put the patient in touch with a dentist who will create a personalized oral device designed to keep breathing passages open during sleep. The result is a test that you can take while sleeping in your own bed without having to travel to asleep lab for engine tomorrow. I alfred poor back to you dave. Thank you alfred. Our attorneys called during the report there and said talking about kris having a sleep apnea on. C-pap is probably a hippo violation. So don't tell anyone that right. So i'm not telling anyone that okay. Good all right But the into tomorrow health minute is brought to you by dex. Com make knowledge. You're superpower for managing type. One diabetes visit decks com dot com that d x com dot com and. It's funny because he talked about how these sleep. Studies can sometimes be uncomfortable and that couldn't be more true because i remember walking into this place. It was like a hospital room that they tried to make it look like a hotel room not very successfully. No and the guy was like okay. Well now just they hooked me up told machines can. I'll just do what you normally do at night and you know and go to sleep. I said okay. Well i'm gonna need a big bowl of chocolate chip ice cream in aga- doritos later in bed and watch tv. But but yeah. It was a pain. Yeah so maybe. The thing that alfred was recommending would have been very helpful to you. But you already know you have it. So you're on a cpap. I can't tell anybody. don't tell you. The hip violation right into tomorrow. Dot com. would you meet me there. Thanks kate steve harvey here for the illinois. 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I'm dave grave line now in our twenty six year on the air covering the latest in consumer tech including gadgets and gizmos products and services all sorts of cool things available today and into tomorrow. And we're delighted that you not only tune in but even more delighted when you call in and you participate on the program. You've got a consumer tech question of any sort or you want to help another listener. We love those kinds of calls to maybe just want to share with us your favorite app these days. And why whatever the case we want to hear from you anytime twenty four seven. The best way is the audio option on the free into tomorrow app. Which i know you already have on your phone and tablet but if not please be sure and snag. It searched those two words in your favorite app store into tomorrow or you can call the old fashioned way. Works toll free anywhere in north america. Eight hundred eight nine nine into one eight hundred eight nine nine four six eight six. Our next guest joins us from one of the oldest high tech market research companies in silicon valley and he writes regularly always love his articles. They pop out at you about tech industries impact on such things as the pc and the consumer electronics market. We just don't have him on as often as i'd like. The president of creative strategies is tim. Baharan tim welcome back into tomorrow. How are you sir. Happy new year. Happy new year to you. Yes i look forward to chatting with you all the time. And of course. Chris crossing paths with you once in a while when we're out when we were out in the past and we would run across each other literally around the world back in the good old days when we could travel and haven't done that and of course you know dealing with the next week with the the our twenty-sixth cas first time virtual only but certainly were doing all weekend to cover it as i'm sure you are as well and it's just a whole different world these days is it not really is. Yeah absolutely well the the latest article that certainly grabbed our attention. And i said oh man we gotta get tim back on the show and talk about that. Five tech concerns for twenty twenty one. So now that we're in twenty twenty one certainly wanna get your handle on where you think. We're headed into tomorrow. And what are the kinds of things that really jumped out at you. Well and as i look forward to the next year I mean twenty. Twenty itself of course was a very difficult year for everybody even in the tech sector. We did have some bright spots. I mean working from home has become more mainstream. The videoconferencing took off after years and years trained to all of us in the industry who were involved with video conferencing wanting out to really become mainstream. in fact. Good point that you bring up in your article is basically who ever heard of zoom before last year and now now you can't not hear about it right but the but the fact is twenty twenty. one Is an interesting new year for tac. Because i do think as i pointed out in my forbes call this week that there are some concerns that i have going into this year for tech and again they're four five. I'll quickly go into but the first one is the the whole increased regulatory challenges that you're gonna have against big tech you know. The republicans and democrats both have been on kind of a war path as far as trying to pull in what they call a potential monopolies of big tech as well as trying to regulate them. And you have of course. This current antitrust suit pending for facebook. And you're going to see others. I think and well in the last in the past tech has been on their on. Their radar is the first time. I think it's elevated to the space. Where really looks like. We're going to see some potential regulatory action. You do think that that's going to happen. Hopefully i mean for the rest of us. An antisocial media i think a lot of us think my gosh they gotta be regulated or at least broke up a couple of their various and sundry billion dollar divisions or something. Although i point out that i don't believe congress will do it. I think this will come as a result of more research that will be done by the ftc. Bsec possibly the department of justice But there is a the second thing. I point out various a new regulatory threat to The companies in europe. That is really interesting because they could soon. Face fines stricter control over their behavior as part of a sweeping new roles in the eu. Think it's been about a month ago. The eu commission which is the executive arm of the eu presented two new pieces of legislation that will affect our big tech operates one of the potential changes. That's really interesting is putting an end to self preferences so for example in an app search result for an apple product display options developed by the zion. Come first they could literally be forced to take that out of the process and failure to comply would be and listen to this. Failure to comply could result in fines us highest ten percent of the company's annual turnover worldwide. Oh by gosh. And you're talking about a company like apple or for that matter google or facebook or a lot of these big companies. That's a hefty amount of money. Yeah and that's just the you now with that legislation gets passed. I don't know. But i suspect that the us will take similar. Look at that these new rules and see if this kid achey find a way to apply here. Well tim do you think that the e u has in some cases over the last few years and maybe gone a little overboard from privacy standpoint great for consumers but sometimes as tech folk that we are. We look at it and say. They're really stifling competition. It seems in some cases now granted they do need to rein in some of these big companies. But you have to wonder you know. Gee why are we doing that here in the us well because you know we we are hopefully encouraging competition. But they seem to be stifling a whole lot well it is and it's also potential stifling innovation. Yeah of course and it is something that i do believe. The eu has gone overboard on issues but some of them are legit however this new threat to them a threat from the eu to companies like facebook and apple and google could be really interesting and we're watching that closely and that could come to a head sometime in twenty twenty one. The next thing i bring out is this new. This whole cyber security breach came out of the social win. What are the go. Social wins or what was it fire anyway. The the most recent one where it looks like the russians have attacked Not only tech companies but government agencies etcetera and. I pointed out that you know robert hackett. In his data she called predicts digital pandemic next year with potential gigantic security breaches of of of what we don't even know at this point and Given the fact that it does appear that. This came from russia We know that. Russia has multiple multiple motives to try to sow discord and problems in the us as they have for decades sure and now they have a new weapon with this type of cybersecurity breach. So you see possible of pan pandemic this year in two thousand and twenty one now of of tech which is kind of challenging and scary in and of itself although people are saying well that's better than the pandemic we've been dealing with this for the past year but It's not good for even us as consumers that can't be a good thing because again we don't know how deep they have been able to penetrate things for example such as our electric grid but imagine you know if if part of this breach of security allowed russia to take control of our electric grid and we would be out. Certain parts of the country could be out of our weeks. Let's say i mean you're talking about a totally different type of and that's why hack robert hackett a fortune uses term digital pandemic because we just don't know how large the cyber attack and more importantly how deep state gotten so. I consider that a very big concern for twenty twenty one. Oh for sure. And what we don't know can probably scare us even more because who knows how many cyber attacks whether it be from russia or domestically or from china what are iran whatever. How many have been stopped up to this point and we don't talk of course a lot about those things because most companies are power grids or governments. Don't want you to know. In many cases they were able to stop something. Because then you know it's better left unsaid. I guess yeah. We're on the job we're secure. Everything's okay but you you bring up a good point between the power grid let alone. We all personally worry about our banking right get into the financial markets. Yeah she i mean it is scary when you talk about what can happen and now then people.

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