20 Episode results for "Brian Doyle"

Coronavirus: quarantines and the economy

The Current

13:16 min | 1 year ago

Coronavirus: quarantines and the economy

"This is a CBC podcast. Matt Galloway. This is a podcast from the march. Second Edition of the current. It is in your control to contain the virus. This is a reality check for every government on the planet. You'd have a duty to your citizens. You have a duty to the world to be ready. A stark warning to the world on Friday as the World Health Organization raised the risk level for Cova nineteen from high to very high with Australian. Now reporting it's first death from the virus and the US count at at least to the WHO is urging governments to act to control the spread. One tool is quarantine. But it's a tool that can be tough on the people who were isolated. Brian Doyle was on the diamond. Princess cruise ship stuck on board while it was in quarantine in Yokohama Japan. He's now isolated in Cornwall Ontario. Along with more than one hundred other Canadians Brian. Doyle Good Morning. Good Morning. How are you feeling this morning? Well just like every morning. One big kind of blends into the next with a situation. I'm on day. Twenty seven quarantine. What is that? Like to be quarantined for twenty seven days. It's pretty tough You've lost your freedom. You're spending probably ninety five percent of your time and a very very small room. Basically your only interaction during the day is the people delivering the food and the nurses coming for the health checks and They dropped the triggered by the door. You eat in your room and the room. We're currently in is about nine by twelve. Basically a dorm room meant for one person is not meant for two people to live in A. We have a double bed. We only have one nightstand so I have to use a cardboard boxes for nights down my side. We had one chair one best. So one person. We'd be faced with eating all their meals sitting on the bed trying to cut their food so we scrounge to chair. Now we both sit at a desk together so it's not ideal you're there with your wife. Yes ma'am can you get outside at all? Yes that's one thing We're able to go out anytime we want here. As long as we stay six feet away from anybody else staying here and we have to wear masks and of the grounds are open to us. But they're all snow covered in icy so basically all we do stick to a three hundred foot asphalt walkway and basically everybody staying here just goes out and just paces back and forth on this three hundred foot asphalt walkway in summer jogging summer walking fast. We're trying to get some exercise but we we do that. We try and get into both three times a day so we don't go crazy here. You're from Montreal. Yes that's correct so that's not that far away from Cornwall. Or are you able to get anything from home shipped back to us so that maybe you could have winter boots and you could get out on the ice for example An and knocked stuck in little space in fact while we're still on the ship. We were notified that there is going to be a fourteen day quarantine in Canada and As soon as we heard that we started getting things in order my contacted my brothers they were gonna go. My House and Obtained things we need to like winter coats and boots and also my laptop because I've been surviving on a little tablet here so we had it all arranged. They were GONNA do that drive over to us. And then I checked with the The staff here and we were told absolutely not. We're not allowed to bring anything in from the outside. There's no care packages no Phillipi to allow us to have our stuff which infuriated a in us even more and yet they'll still facilitate give back just from the princess cruise line and a A cookie delivered by the Governor General of Canada that can get delivered but not the stuff we really need. What is this what? What is this like? Psychologically to be in this space and whether it's on the cruise ship or whether it's here in quarantine for as long as you've been there it's pretty tough if you if we could better by into why we're quarantining the second time it would be easier easier but not easy But the trouble is we just. Don't quite understand why we're here. We spend fourteen days on that ship. We were even more isolated on the ship. After fourteen days we showed no symptoms and then Actually I it was seventeen days on this ship by the time the fight arrive and we we were all tested. Negative every one of US whole hundred and twenty nine of us and so then we were brought in here to Canada and we were all kind of questioning why we are in quarantine for a second fourteen day period and to make matters worse for five days into it. The chief public health officer Dr Town then authorized the release of the Canadian Armed Forces personnel and the Portuguese play crew. That flew with us on the plane. Here these people that have been interacting with us and living in this facility a release four days into quarantine and it just made us question the whole system even more and made everyone here quite furious you were on a ship that had what seven hundred people that ended up getting infected. We've seen this virus spread all around the world and you could imagine there are people who are listening saying I get that. This is an inconvenience but it's an inconvenience to ensure that the virus doesn't spread any further. What would you say to those people? I feel that the people that got sick on the ship might have been pre exposed prior to the core and teams and the fact that we are isolated for fourteen days on this ship and not exhibiting any symptoms and tested negative every one of US tested negative prior to getting on that plane. It really makes me question whether this is really needed. When will you get to go home? We're set to go home. On March six we're sitting on pins and needles everyday we sit on pins and needles wondering whether one of us is. GonNa test positive one day. 'cause we're horrified at. What would what what they would do to us? Should that happen Brian? Good luck and I hope you get home soon. Oh thank you very much. Bye-bye Brian Doyle is at the cove nineteen quarantine facility in Cornwall Ontario. We requested interviews with someone from the Public Health Agency of Canada as well as the Federal Health Minister. No one was available to talk to us. We also asked for a response to Bryan's concerns some clarification on the rules around quarantine and we did not hear back a certainly health impacts are top of mind for people right now but covert nineteen is also affecting the Canadian and global economy. Last week was the worst week for the Toronto Stock Exchange. Since the two thousand eight Financial Crisis Diane swonk chief economist with the international accounting from Grant Thornton. Diane Good Morning in Marnie even calling this an economic pandemic. What do you mean by that? Well whether or not it's classified as a health pandemic which is global in scope We are kind of semantics at this point in time we are seeing the economic disruptions of it being global in scope the efforts to contain the virus. Much of like you were just discussing with The Passenger Brian. I think is very important. Because disruptions economic activity to contain the virus are causing both drop in production because many plants are idled and demand consumer demand because consumers who are quarantined. CaN'T GET OUT. We also know there's legacy effects after an epidemic like this happens a world. Bank study recently showed that after the Bulla crisis they went back in and looked at what were the biggest economic costs associated with epidemics. Eighty to ninety percent of the economic losses. Were due to the behavioral aspects. Now some of those are prudent needed because the loss would be greater if in fact we got a large swath of the population very ill. That could not work for a long period of time and we want to avoid that but it really is sort of a unique kind of shock to the global economy. We take a look at the stock market last week. It took a clobbering here in Canada and the United States as well What are you most concerned about when it comes to that? I mean the stock market isn't the economy but for many people. It's an indicator well. What's interesting about the stock market losses? The disproportionate affected has on aging baby. Boomers what we saw back. In December two thousand eighteen for instance when we had that trade war scare with China. The downdraft in the stock market actually was enough to stop aging baby boomers. That was that demographic alone to pull back during the height of the holiday season. Stop spending and so there is a real `asymmetry when we see these kinds of corrections people who are in or close to retirement when they see such a blow to their potential 401k. Their potential savings. They actually pull in and pull back. So that's an added sort of dampening effect on consumer demand that is in addition to the fact that People aren't going out as much aren't going to restaurants aren't going to public places aren't going to public arenas or the shutdowns of schools and places like that that we're seeing around the world right now. Let's talk a bit about the supply chain heavily. Listened to Eddie Banks. He runs a plumbing and lighting business in Edmonton. We've had to substitute Basis from a a local manufacturer and of course the the price is much higher. But when we've Committed to Builders at a certain price we can't go back to them and say hey We need you to charge you more for for the product before it. So we're taking it on the Chin as far as the cost difference between buying locally and buying the The Chinese product Diane swonk. These are early days in many ways but How are the global supply chains already being impacted by this great example of one where someone actually was able to substitute apart? The real problems come when we actually can't substitute one. Specifically designed part say from China and it trickles up the global supply chain most notably in North America Canada United States and Mexico in the auto sector are tier two and tier three suppliers getting disruptions. That can't be sort of work arounds being done and I think what's most important about that is that you hear the crimp margins and profits now. It's even worse if you don't have that part and you can't produce in the loss in cash flow and in fact one of the ways. China is trying to deal with the economic disruptions which is very different than anything else we have is to keep company solvent and not have them go under and have what is a health crisis and a disruption economic activity morph into financial crisis were firms actually default on their debt and are unable to stay in business. And that's one of the interesting issues. We have to tackle right now is. Italy is also trying to deal with this. Trying to keep firm solvent at a time when their cash flow is crimped or their margins are squeezed to keep people employed into avoid a more vicious and insidious cycle of loss profits and lay off. Do you expect to see just briefly? Do Expect to see. Would customers expect to see shortages on store shelves because that supply chain has been disrupted? There's no question actually Long Beach which is one of the biggest port coming in from China at this moment in time half of the longshoremen are currently laid off. Because it's become a ghost town because product has not come in and it is meaning already. We're seeing in some big box. Retailers some shortages of key products typically come in from China everything from toys to pharmaceuticals. China is a major provider of things. Like tylenol advil Antibiotics and things like that so this is really crucial. What we're seeing and we are going to see some shortages on store shelves as well. This is at the same time and this is important for Canada's well that oil prices are plummeting because global demand is plummeting so you have on one side of it. You know demand pushing down prices and on the other side of it. Shortages were literally. Things can't come into a country because of what's been happening. You also have people this weekend. Who are stocking up at the big box stores have people who are reconsidering whether they will travel or not because of this in the remaining what thirty seconds or so that we have. How Realistic Do you think? A global recession is at this point. Unfortunately I think it's more than fifty percent probability by our calculations. Seven of the largest economies in the world in the first quarter will be flat to negative because of this virus and that's only going to spiral as perhaps there are more deaths but also as people start to change their own behaviors because of what they're hearing what they're reading exactly it's lingering. It's not a V. Shape even with stimulus which will come out coordinated across the world. We need to keep plants solvent. We need to keep companies that can keep making paychecks otherwise it becomes even larger. Diane thank you thank you swonk. She's the chief economist with Grant Thornton. She was in Chicago. This is the current on. Cbc Radio One. My Name's Matt Galloway for more. Cbc PODCASTS GO TO CBC DOT CA slash podcasts.

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19: "Your Favorite EarBuds Episodes" Week

Feedback with EarBuds

09:38 min | 1 year ago

19: "Your Favorite EarBuds Episodes" Week

"Hey pod people welcome to feedback with ear. Buds brought to you by ear. Buds podcast collective. I'm your host and the founder of your Butts Ariel Nissim implant. This episode covers the week of February ten through fourteen. Twenty twenty as you may know. Our third birthday versus date is February twelfth. That's it's the day that in two thousand seventeen. We sent out our first ever podcast recommendation newsletter. We're officially celebrating next week on February twentieth with a party in Los Angeles more info on that later in the show this week show is brought to us by buzzed sprout a platform. That helps you. Start a podcast of your own. Your Buds podcast collective is a listening movement. We send an email every Sunday that contains a theme and five podcast episodes on that theme and each week's podcast picks are curated by a different person. Anyone can curate great a list and this show is just that. I'll share our five podcast episode recommendations of the week some information about our curator and some more information about the episodes. Besides we'll also share some podcast industry news from the inside podcasting newsletter. I are ear. Buds podcast collective recommendations. This week's theme is your favorite ear. Buds episodes the curator is me Ariel. Here's why I chose this theme we've been sending out this podcast recommendation newsletter for three years now throughout that time we've sent out one hundred fifty six emails one every Sunday Day and we recommended more than seven hundred. Eighty individual podcast episodes. Here are the episodes from within the newsletter that were the most popular among our subscribers measuring this by the links that were clicked. Most here are the podcasts and episodes chosen by me. Monday's episode comes from the Knowledge Project. Worked with Shane Parrish and is called Navarro. Ravi Kant the angel philosopher. It's one hundred twenty minutes long. This episode initially came from our how to improve ourselves list list curated by Jonathan Santiago in this episode Navarro Ravi Kant is the CEO and Co founder of Angel Est.. He's invested in more than one hundred companies including Uber Twitter. Yarmur and many others Tuesday's episode comes from you're wrong about and it's called. Yoko Ono broke up the Beatles. It's forty seven minutes long. This episode initially came from our explore the human psyche theme curated by Kevin Allison in this episode. Mike Tell Sarah about how the myth of meddling wives serves to exonerate. Terrible husbands digression include fifty shades of Grey Marie Antoinette and the end of the nineteen sixties this episode. We're sorry to say contains descriptions of domestic abuse. Wednesday's episode comes from the quote of the day show and is called Brian Doyle. People don't know we appreciate. She ate them unless we show it. It's ten minutes long. This episode initially came from our cultivate and attitude of gratitude. Week curated by Stephen Miller in this episode owed Brian. Doyle makes his debut for Thanksgiving episode. Brian reminds us that we don't need a special day to express our gratitude for the people and things we're thankful for and how important it it is to let the people around us know that we appreciate them Thursday's episode comes from just the beginning and it's called science fiction gets real. It's thirty two minutes. It's long this episode initially came from our object as subject newsletter. curated by Lindsey kilbride in this episode meet creators making work that explores the gap gap between science fiction and reality. Friday's episode comes from love me and is called falling. It's seventeen minutes long. This episode so initially appeared in our happy crying newsletter. curated by Taylor Zabloski in this episode after a whirlwind romance. 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Transformers, Marvel Studios, The Thing, The Batman, and Super Bowl Commercials

/Film Daily

24:37 min | 1 year ago

Transformers, Marvel Studios, The Thing, The Batman, and Super Bowl Commercials

"Hello everyone and welcome slash daily for Tuesday January Twenty Eighth Twenty twenty on today's episode. We're in the film and TV news. The slash home editor during chief Peter Surata and joining the Kansas less foam weekend editor. Brennaman in writer. Why everyone you too have been kind of running the ship this week with all the all the news content Ben and Chris had been away at Sundance. But they're they're making taking their with journey back today so They might return test tomorrow if they're not exhausted from from Sundance But let let's deal with them today today again With start with a new store that broke after we recorded yesterday recorded I. It broke yesterday afternoon and that is that paramount airmont is making another transformer film. Actually it's making not just one but two it else but it. Yeah Pearman Hasbro borough looking to revamp the transformers franchise with two dual movies. That are being developed separately They've hired two writers to pen. The separate Develop developing films. The first one is scripts being pen by Jobe Herald. Who Co wrote the upcoming Zack? Snyder's movie of the dead and the second is being written by Zodiac writer James Vanderbilt's And they vanderbilt has been on his product since April twenty one thousand nine hundred and will reportedly be working on a reboot of transformers. I beast wars. which is a story that is a prequel to the original transformers? Continuity and false a clash of the maximal and and the credit cons. Yeah it's kind of weird. It's like animals that turn into transformers. What does the other one the other one's a Bumblebee to We actually don't know there aren't any more details about herald projects but according to reports These two projects will reportedly we build out multiple ARCS and expand the transformers universe One script is research be set within the world of the previous films while the other is who unquote a grand scale reimagining actioning. We're not sure which is which yet but we have more of an idea of what vanderbilt is But yeah it seems like Paramount and Hasbro are kind of at a keeping Priority are but are kind of sussing out what direction to take this franchise in because of the success of twenty eighteen bumblebee. He which was a very stark difference from the other transformers films in this approach of war like a sweet coming of age story and It was a critical success but not so much not as much box office. Success as pass transformers films have been remember when they had a transfers writer renders room and they were like planning out like the next next like twenty years of the franchise and what happened to that. It seems like that like went out the window Yeah or maybe this is the result of that writers like everyone everyone else is kind of got dropped and the two writers left standing with the fact that they announced two separate movies and development. remeasured that quote from the movie contact I think he goes Why make one when you when you can make two for twice the price Okay let's from transformers to the other cinematic universe reverse that is marvel studios They're meeting with directors for the future of their projects and some of the structures are interesting to be for sure. Brad tell us about it indeed. We learned that Marvel Studios has met with two very different filmmakers. The first one being Lulu Wang who is fresh off for her acclaimed directorial job on the farewell. It's an indie darling. That came out of Sundance was about during award. Season earned Aquafina a golden globe globe for best actress in a comedy or musical unfortunately. Didn't get any Oscar nominations. But this was a breakthrough enough movie for Lulu weighing. Its director that marvel studios has has met with her at some point. It's not clear if this was something that happened before the farewell or after the farewell. Got A lot of buzz but during a Hollywood reporter round table with a bunch of directors who have been buzzed about this award season like Martin Scorsese and todd. Phillips Noah Baumbach the moderator the discussion asked if anybody had been in Approach my marvel to direct a film and Lua weighing raised her hand but then she immediately said. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that and laughed. So she didn't say what movies she met for a specific project or if it was one of those general meetings that marvel likes to have with directors just to see they have an interesting idea for a certain character or something like that But it's very cool to see their marbles meeting with her you know there's there's always a chance that maybe she was in the running for black widow because they were a lot of different indeed Female filmmakers for that movie There's also a chance that maybe she was talked to about Shanxi Luliang herself as a Chinese American and I'm sure they wanNA feel wonderful maker. Who could handle that material? Sensitively release since Shane. She has kind of used Chinese culture in Weird It probably the way in pre pass marvel comics stories so So it would have been nice to have her on board director for that so it also they could be looking at her for TV because they have that that Hawkeye TV series. Coming out. which I I feel like She might be good for as well and That that does not have a director right so If you if I'm guessing I'M GONNA I'M GONNA guess say it's just a general meeting like meet with her but marvel has had a history of like you know seeing people well who had like big breaks Sundance and picking those people up to two home like big marvel projects. So my question to you brad is like out of all the marvel stuff that we know is coming like. What would you like to see doing do or would you not even want? Would you just want her to do something I mean I guess the answer is you know. Let's let's give her some more money to do something original but that's about the world we live in right. Yeah true I honestly don't know I mean they. They have a lot of their future stuff. Figured out with the exception of Disney plus shows so. I don't really have anything specific that I think that she should be good for. Yeah so no doctor. Strange in the multi verse of of Madness. I mean she's a skilled enough director but I haven't seen any it's done. That makes me think. Oh she totally get get weird in the cosmic side of the Marley universe. Y- She's not the only director that we've recently heard met with marvel. Tell us about that. Yeah so A deal and allow a lot met with marvel as well. They're the Directing behind bad boys for life which surprised the hell allow people by overperforming at the box office and it was also pretty Dang good apparently people are liking it and actually works pretty well as a sequel. That in many thought would be maybe too little too late but this was one of those general meetings that they had with marvel where there's nothing set in stone they just wanted to meet with the directors. See what they had You know as far as ideas for maybe many movies but they were pretty busy with Bad boys around. The time didn't necessarily have anything specific. Talk to them about apparently right now. They've been digging into marvel stuff and seeing if there's anything that they might WanNa pitch tomorrow and see if they're interested I still have not seen bad boys for for life. You saw at the right. No I haven't seen yet I'm supposed to Landau. The plans fell through. And so I'm I'm supposed to actually supposed to see tonight. I'm I'm so surprised at how well received that movie is because the trailers look so bad but I thought it was pretty much right on par with the rest of bad bad boys. So it seems like the Energy and action of the Michael Bay movies but you know I don't know I I. I WanNa see the movie. I just haven't made it to the cinema in among US May. AMC A list to go see that probably this weekend But let's let's talk about the thing. They are now doing another remake of the thing. But this one's a little bit interesting because it's not a remake of the movie. It's a remake of the original novel. Hd tell us what that yes universal in Bloom House reportedly teaming up to remake. Make the thing which most people know as the John Carpenter Film that was a cult classic And it was that John Carpenter film was actually based off of John W Campbell junior novella. Who goes there? But recently full version of Campbell's book look was has surfaced and the entire novel titled Frozen Hell is a soon to be published in novel. Length form and universal in Blue House are reportedly going to adapt the never foreseen loss pages of that original novel in a new Remake of the thing. It's you know. What is the differences between the novel in the movie that we've got well we don't know yet but the original novella which is called? Who goes there? It was published in August. Nineteen thirty eight issue of astounding science fiction. But haven't cut down for publication And it was a novella length but this new version as currently novel length so they're apparently Much more backstory and exposition that goes into building the world. We don't know the details as of yet. But that's that's something that would be going into this feature linked remake or are you a fan of the thing I haven't seen it so I can't say I am but I know it's beloved film it is I I'm not a huge fan of the thing like I feel like A lot of what. How are you not not a huge fan of perfect sci-fi thriller? We're talking about Okay Brad. Tell us why you love the thing and in what you think of this this. The Supreme Acre Adaptation. Yeah I mean the thing is one of John Carpenter's best movies and like it. I just love it. has this mystery to it and the suspense because you don't no no Who has been taken over by this alien? Being the effects in it are are great practical. They still hold up The entire our cast is awesome. Kurt Russell leads it. I mean it's yeah there's so many reasons to to love this movie. It is just outstanding and pre- pretty much every way since this is an adaptation of the book. I guess I'm fine with them giving it a shot You know so. We'll see how it goes but we've already seen them. Try to touch the again once with a a remake slash sequel and it didn't work out too well so it's It'll be a tough tough mountain to climb. Yeah yeah that's for sure. Let's talk about the Batman. This is the movie coming from Matt. Reeves is another Redo of the Cape Crusader and He has has released a foot. Online production has begun. We say clapper we get to see a logo of some kind. But I think that the most interesting listen thing is we're learning about some new characters and who were playing them. Brad tell us about it. Sure Yeah so the Batman. It seems like they've been in production for a little while now because there were some photos that were going around online with Gotham city. Police cars and news vans and that kind of thing but that was likely a second unit photography getting some things done before. Principal photography started with the primary cast. But today one brothers announced the official start of Production Matt Matt Rees posted the day. One photo Basically letting US know that they're really getting into it now and along with that came some details about the characters that Peter SARS guard food and Jamie Lawson playing Previously some people thought Peter Star Guard might be playing Harvey Dent or that he might be playing Hugo strange since there was a photo that that may Jilin Holland actually posted on instagram of him of her shaving his head but he's still had like a full beard and only half shave which was where the to face. Speculation came came from but it turns out. He's not playing anybody. Who has a history in DC comics? he's playing Gotham district attorney. Gil Colston So that's something that's created specifically for this movie. We don't necessarily know what his role is beyond just his title surely He will have interactions with the police force. Likely Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon and the same can be said for Jamie Lawson. She's played character named Bellary Al who is a Gotham city mayoral candidate and that's also character. Not I found in the comics either. So yeah that doesn't really tell us anything extra about the movie except there will be some politics involved since we have mayoral candidates. And it'll be interesting as to whether or not we'll see harvey dent pop up any point in our slack extradite told Jacob that I wouldn't be surprised if we see. See Your Colson get killed and then replaced by Harvey Dent at the end. Perhaps with a cameo by the person who will play him in a sequel or something like that. That could be interesting Where do we receive this information from? Do you know it just came from a press. Release at Warner Brothers. Announced constantly started production so it is official information interesting Wonder how big the roles are going to keep an eye on that. I'm sure there's GONNA be some set. Photos doesn't stuff that we can give us some more information on on this production and I'm very excited about this Another Comic Book Adaptation. That's in the works works and this is hit right before we went on the podcast. Is this project From boom studios in Seth Rogan And it seems like it's about a killer meam mixed it's revenge of the killer means and CETERA himself no stranger to being a mean but now he's on board to develop a movie about killer mean he's teaming up with the Batman Co writer Matson Tomlin to penned the adaptation of medic a horror comic by James Tinian the fourth that follows a viral sensation that becomes the source of Zombie. Virus threatens humanity The film is under Lionsgate and is is which is in negotiations to acquire the boom studios comic and it's currently under UNDERS SAT Rogan's Banner Point Grey And two of them are co penning the the adaptation which is a is about a killer meam basically. Please tell the story of a popular meeting known as the good time slot which becomes a viral sensation and a half a day. After it goes viral causes houses people to Go insane and go into a murderous rage so it seems like a kind of a joke of premise. But with Seth Rogan onboard. Seems it can have a more satirical sort of bent to it and Madsen Tomlin is a rising rising screenwriter right now. He hasn't really been on in many big projects six other than the Batman. But it seems like he could probably bring more serious Sir toned this. So who knows tonal be for this yet but it seems like a fun. It's about a killer means. So what else do you need to know. See I've I've looked at the wikipedia entry for this and it doesn't seem to be comedy I don't know it seems the paint as a horror comic which I it's I dunno hearing about it. It just feels like a comedy and South Rogin getting involved. Seems like it's going to be a comedy I don't know I. I once read this book by Chuck Pollen the The guy that did Fight Club and he had this book called Wallow by which was about a A. We'll so by. That would kill people if they heard it. But this is taking things up a notch with the media fixation I is this a movie that you'd see. You know I actually was. I had no idea what this movie was when the this or the story was when this news broke but reading reading the Synopsis Really Fascinated me. It does seem like a fun premise. And it's actually something that I think. Kingsman the golden circle did similarly with the You the cellphones reading people's heads to explode or whatever but seems more More of a very pointed metaphor. Okay so the super bowl is approaching us. And there's a bunch of commercials that HAVE HIT ON LINE or we've hearing about I'll put links them in the show notes because there's this new Commercial for Moundou Zero which you reviewed on a previous edition of the water cooler read This has Bryan Cranston remaking the shining. And I know you this up. I'll put a link to that. Brad what do you think of this commercial. You know I mean it's on one level. It's fun because it's interesting to see Bryan Cranston on the Jack Nicholson Role of Jack Torrance. And Tracy Ellis Ross as his wife Wendy but at the same time. It's a mountain dew commercial also. It's Super Hella cheesy. I will give credit because whoever directed this and there hasn't been a name that's been associated with the commercial yet. They did a really good job. Job of recreating shots from the shining very specifically the shot. When Jack I swings the axe into the door they perfectly mimic the like if the quick pan shot will how how goes along with the swing into the door So it's very well done but very silly especially the end shot which features Bryan Cranston as the creepy twins in the hallway. Both Holding Mountain dew zero sugar bottle so it it is. It is what it is yeah. It's super weird but you can check that out online. Another one that were just hearing about it is. They're going to be remaking groundhog day again as a super bowl commercial. So what do we know. Talk about Deja Vu so bill Murray will be reprising his role as cynical. TV weatherman in a groundhog day. Themed Super Bowl. Commercial for Jeep He was spotted filming the commercial with his brother. Brian Doyle Murray and also former star Stephen. Douglas sqi advertising the rules as Mayor Buster Green and Edvardsson respectively and they were shooting in the original town of of Woodstock Illinois Illinois where the original film was originally shot and it was recreated to look like puts the Tony Tony Tony. Funk Tani's Janis Pennsylvania and so it seems like they've definitely recreated the The original film quite a bit and We haven't seen the commercial yet. It will likely pre debut closer to super bowl Sunday but yeah. It seems like it's going to be happening again. I'm excited about that. Because I am a huge fan of groundhog day. I mean who isn't but yeah it's great and Is On groundhog day. So I didn't even know that. Wow timing yeah yeah And one last one which is actually GonNa hit before the Super Bowl. I'm share this is going to air during the Super Bowl as well. They have a new fast and furious. Movie coming out. And there's a teaser trailer coming out. there's a little bit of that trailer online Brad host but actually a kind of a lot of trailer. It's almost a full minute From the fast asam furious nine trailer or fast nine as they might be calling it and it's really just a set up with Showing vin diesel with his son. Brian named after Paul Walker's character under because everyone loves naming their kids after their friends who are still alive. But just don't WanNa hang out with them anymore so I these fixing a car with him helping out by picking the wrenches But then it gets a little ominous because dom and letty put little Brian to bed and let he gives Brian the cross necklace that has been handed around throughout the franchising given back to letty when she came back from the dead and had her memory restored franchises which is insane and then says here this little keep you protect you for what's coming and it's like Whoa. What is coming in? Why are you you like scaring your child by telling them they need to protect So we'll we'll see what's going to happen in this ninth installment of the franchise. My favorite part of this though is that is Vin diesels reading of A. I can't live my life amount of time anymore. Why can't he though Brad? Why can't he? He's gotTa sign. Is You gotta be responsible. You can't just be you know fast fast. adrenaline fueled Dominic Torero anymore. He's gotTa Take Care of his kid he's got to feed them. Cereal unreal and stuff so maybe he can live his life. One Eighth of a mile I a mile of the time. Yeah probably just a mile time. there's also a poster out that shows VIN diesel. Looking sad fac- away from his car and that seem necklaces. Hanging from from the What does that the mirror? Yea does that mean that. Brian is going to be killed. It's such a thing. I don't think they're going to kill the kid that that don't just learned. He had in the last movie. Well some people have this theory online and and I mean they could they could kill them and then the next one could realize that the kid is still alive and has been brainwashed by the bad guys you know fits into the fast mythology preposterous. Nothing's beyond This this series which by the way it's being called called the fast saga. This is something new like they they have online like. Actually the twitter name is at the Fast Saga. And they're doing these hash tags. So I guess were just like Star Wars Franchise has followed the fastfamily. Yeah Yeah but I guess that's a way like because now they have Hobson. Shaw aw they have those spy racers or whatever like this is the way that that the normal general public people know that this is like the the main saga right sure also. What is the name of this movie because I see them? Using F dine is a fast night interethnic fast fast fast fast fast fast. I don't even know I don't even know if I said at nine times there Brad. Are you at all excited for this movie. I am excited in the way that I get excited to get drunk. I guess I know it's GonNa be something stupid. I'll probably regret it afterwards. But it'll be fun mom doing it. I feel like I loved fast. Five and every installment common sense of kind of like gun a little bit. Further Downhill Itchy. How how do you feel about the fast and furious franchise? You know what I like him. I have of a fund dumb time at them did not like fate of the furious. It was a bad movie but I had watched all of the fast and furious movies in this one giant marathon marathon. My friends I had never seen a single fast furious movie before and I had fun. Wait a second. What was that like? I'm curious like Oh we set aside like fourteen fourteen hours in our day and we got we got a bunch of Coronas and some Chili and we marathoned all. I think we skipped four though because it was a bad movie Um mm-hmm and then we just watched through the entire day. It was a lot it was quite an experience just felt like Driving really fast afterwards. Wow I can't even like wait. How many hours of movies is that like plus twelve hours at least well plus hours already? I'm sure I would never do it again. But they're just living your life a half hour at a time. Yeah okay that doesn't say slash on daily. You can find more of overwork slash dot com. You can find this podcast. Sasha daily early posted every weekday an itunes overcast spotify all the popular podcast apps police. You're free to set your feedback questions. COMMENTS CONCERNS TO PETER AS MECOM and end rate near this podcast on. Itunes tell your friends spread the word and we'll see you tomorrow need.

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8: "Cultivate an Attitude of Gratitude" Week

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09:12 min | 1 year ago

8: "Cultivate an Attitude of Gratitude" Week

"Hey Hey podcast listeners. It's cultivate an attitude of gratitude. Week just in in time for Thanksgiving stay tuned for podcast recommendations on this theme. Welcome to feedback with ear. Buds brought to you by Earbud. Todd cast collective. I'm your host and the Founder Interview Buds area. This episode covers the week of November twenty fifth through twenty nineth. Two thousand nine hundred ninety. Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating this week. This week show is brought to us by a new show. The score bank robber. Diaries stay tuned to learn how to rob a bank without getting caught okay. Eventually you'll get caught awed this week show is also brought to us by the first thunder storm of the season in Los Angeles. If you hear some rumblings you can think southern California's Mediterranean dry subtropical climate. Your podcast. Collective is a listening movement. We send an email every Sunday that contains theme and five podcast episodes on that theme and each tweaks podcast picks her curated by a different person. Anyone can create a list. Get in touch with us by emailing ear. Buds podcast collective at G MAIL DOT COM on this show okay. I'll share our five podcast episode recommendations of the week some information about our curator at some more information about the episode's chosen. You'll also hear some of the week's top podcast outcasts industry stories from the inside podcasting newsletter written by Skype Pillsbury. I are ear. Buds podcast collective recommendations This week's theme is cultivate an attitude of gratitude. The curator is Stephen Miller. No no not that Stephen Miller this is Stephen Miller hosted the ignition point podcast. Here's why Stephen chose this theme he says. Hey My name's Stephen Miller and the theme I chose for your buds. This week is showing genuine gratitude and sure it may seem like the obvious theme of choice for mid November but I think cultivating an attitude of gratitude is something we can all do a better job of after all it enables our ability to enrich the lives of others and that's the way we can improve our communities and eventually or world here here. The podcast and episodes chosen by Stephen. Monday's episode comes from. This is the ignition point and is called be grateful for the journey with sunny tale. It's about fifteen minutes long. On today's episode the host joined by Sunny Patel who has fast tracked his rise as a leader founder and the CEO. Joe of any by embracing this habit of practicing internal gratitude under his leadership over the past three years in Sir me has evolved into a customer engagement platform that helps the top global insurance carriers to generate new business online streamline customer claims and deliver excellent customer service through conversational. Ai Tuesday's episode comes from the School of Greatness podcast and is called manager Ego by living in gratitude take digs. It's about seventy eight minutes long. Here's what hosts Lewis House says about this episode. I had a friend who offered to introduce me to the amazing actor and Broadway Star Taye Diggs but when I ran into him twice ace in a week I knew it was time. Wednesday's episode comes from happier with Gretchen Rubin. And his called. My mother helped me to feel grateful rather than resentful. It's just ninety seconds long in this episode. Elizabeth Gretchen sister talks about the power. Of reframing Thursday's episode it comes from the quote of the day show and it's called Brian Doyle people don't know we appreciate them unless we show it. It's eleven minutes long in this episode. Brian enjoy all makes his debut for Thanksgiving. Brian reminds us that. We don't need a special day to express our gratitude for the people and things were thankful for and how important it is to let the people all around us know that we appreciate them. Friday's episode comes from trench tested and is called. How did you the hard work of gratitude with Dr Tan? Meet Sethi breath. It's approximately twenty six minutes long in this episode doctor. Tom Meets Sethi has suffered in ways most of us will never comprehend. She was kind enough to share her life changing insights in this podcast. That is loaded with great advice for those who are struggling with work relationships or just plain old life. Those are the podcast recommendations. The Nation's chosen by Stephen for this week's theme cultivate an attitude of gratitude. 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How C-Suite Executives Perceive Value with Brian Doyle

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28:58 min | 10 months ago

How C-Suite Executives Perceive Value with Brian Doyle

"And the vast majority of the time it's about your value. It's about what you're doing for your customers. And when you get that in your brain that's when you can price appropriately. These foreclosures on establish proposal sent in principle. Now let's see how much we're going for. Any basements is welcomed. Impact pricing the podcast. We discuss pricing value and the high level relationship between them a saving today. Our guest is brian. Doyle in here are three things you want to know about bryan. Before we start he was vp of sales then he was a vp of marketing. And then he went into consulting as one thing. He is the brand new president of holden advisors and notice. His last name doesn't start withholding and he flew c. Seventeen for the air force. Welcome brian thanks. Mark happy to be here jealous about the c. Seventeen thing. I got my pilot's license on three years ago or something like that. I fly little planes but that sounds so fun. Yeah it was awesome. It was a great experience for sure. I'll i'll bet so. How did you get into pricing. Well market was a bit of a winding road really. It is a an outcome of being on both sides of the negotiation table so As you said used to be a sales later used to be a marketing leader. So i have seen it from the selling side of things saying how prices work out seeing how. It's easy to sell. If i understand the price and the value really hard. If i don't and then i've seen it on the other side of the equation to how do we come up with the price. How do we help our clients figure out the right price for the market. And so those two things have sort of come together for me holding advisers because one of the things we do is connect the dots between pricing and the actual execution pricing through a sales team. I have to say one of my early jobs goes in sales as well and being in sales really helps you understand pricing and then on the other side what we were trying to buy really expensive stuff and trying to work with my own procurement people to get us to buy that. Got one nightmare so it is interesting. Yeah it's so nice to be able to put yourself in the other person's shoes sometimes it's putting yourself in your customer's shoes sometimes. It's putting yourself in the shoes. The guy down the hall absolutely okay. Speed of the guy down the hall before we joked too much pricing. I do have to ask. What's it like taken over for someone whose name is on the door. Well mark is funny. Because when the holden's asked me to step into the president role that was the first thing on my mind and i said you know this is a this is an amazing honor for me and and i don't take it lightly because i recognize your guys. Names is on the door and so. That's not an easy decision. The nice thing is that the holden's are still around to people that i appreciate working with two people who continue to coach offer perspective so i didn't have to start cold turkey so to speak. It's going to be a nice transition. Good so they didn't just throw you into the deep end and say here. Go swim as very very nice. So we agreed that we were talking about value in the c. suite today and i'm hoping you're going to give a lot of insight first. Let's just open it up wide open with think about value in the c. suite. What what types of things are you thinking about. What's going through your mind so for me. Markets it's three things is increasing revenue reducing costs and minimizing risk. And what. I found in my experiences. That all c. suites care about one or more of those things and the challenge that we often have is that we sell into who middle managers we sell too low and the organization. And and when you when you create value for middle and in the things that middle managers care about oftentimes. It doesn't make a difference. So i work for a company previously where we used to do. A lot of training for free in the middle managers loved it ever. You've totally taken this off my plate. You guys are awesome but i. I did the math. And we didn't necessarily get more business from those people and is because the middle managers the decision makers but if you go back to you know revenue cost and risk. I mean my experience every c. Suite cares about that. And it gets you up to the decision makers and it gets you to having the right sort of conversation actually really interesting because i think of this in two very different ways one way is you're trying to find your own clients. You're trying to help your own customers. You wanna teach them how to sell to the c. Suites but on the other hand you also your firm probably cells to the c. Suites would that be true statement. Yeah it is. And it's you know the thing that keeps everything aligned. It doesn't feel like you have competing priorities is at if you really trying to do the best thing for the c. suite. Which in turn is the best thing to help them serve their customers. Then everything allies if you're trying to sell them something that they don't really need or something that you have to talk them into then. There's that disconnect that it becomes pretty obvious when when you're selling a folks that it just feels like selling but when it feels more like partnership. Hey i can totally help you guys do what you wanna do and help you make more money at it or help you serve your customers better so that they make more money on it or both. That's why the pieces come together. I find your so. let's talk about. Look let's choose one of the three and we'll do revenue because it's the easiest one of the three by far and and probably both of our businesses focus on that and and many of our customers do you can't walk into an executive and say hey i'm here to increase your revenue. Because everybody and their brother would walk in and say those exact words right. How do you find the next level down. What's going to resonate with them. When it comes to san juan increase your revenue well. Oftentimes markets starts with whatever their goals are and just with a little bit of homework reading annual report reading the president's letter at the front of report. Maybe reading some interviews. You'll see what those senior leaders care about and so you start the conversation with. Hey i know you're interested in acts. Tell me why you know. I think i could probably help with that. Let's start a conversation around this and it's it's less selling it's more about. Hey this is how the future can be so much better if we work together in starts a conversation. So if i were reading an annual report or writings you know. The the executives letter the chairman's love letter. Whatever it is. I might see things like our goal. This year is to increase. Asp our goal. This year is to win. New logos right increased number of customers. We have to penetrate new markets and each one of those would say to us own a vast the issue that we can talk about assuming that we can help. yeah i think that's fair. I think doing a little bit of homework with regard to the industry matters at ton too so thinking about you know so mark as a sales guy and i was a sales guy probably ten years ago. We all learned to ask this wonderful question. Hey what keeps you up at night and that was the thing that was going to open up like you know that the customer was just gonna lay out their entire plans for you and you're going to say i can solve these plans. I would say in this age of so much more information. It's not really a question. It's more of a statement. Which is this is what should be keeping you up at night and i think some of it's learning from the company like we were just talking about. I think some of it is doing your own homework. And say this is where i see your market headed and i see this as an issue for you and now you're adding value. Just you know from the moment you start talking instead of. Let me tell you about my product. Yeah okay so. I never these a sales pitch and i don't really think that's this is going to be a sales pitch for you either. But i really wanna hear from you. How do you say that to your your potential customers. How do you walk into an executive and say. Here's the things i can do for you. Yeah so for instance we've got clients that sell into the fortune five hundred that's typically typically for us. It's the bb space typically. They are very large customers selling into very large customers and when we are walking into a customer and doing the homework we are thinking about the value that they provide and whether or not they're getting paid for the value that they provide more times than not those customers of ours clients of ours are stuck sort of in the future and benefit side of things. And they don't spend enough time thinking about the impact in the value. And so when. I'm walking in. I am talking about the impact and value that they provide to the market where i see the market going and where i see the opportunity for them to get paid for that value that they provide. And so what. I'm doing is offering specific examples of that value that i see from my vantage point mark. I would say you know. Far more often than not is Yes kinda interesting you know. We thought about that. Or you know what we haven't spent enough time on that one should tell me more. And then it turns into more of a conversation than a sales pitch. Okay so i found what you said fascinating confusing at the same time fascinating in the sense that i work a ton with product managers and product marketers and and people who truly should understand the value of their products and they rarely do and in my mind. I can't imagine the executives knowing the details knowing the data of how much value that were truly generating but the other side of that in my mind says i think most executives believe we generate a lot more value than we capture. But they don't know how to go about capturing or they don't make it a priority. What do you. What do you think of that perspective. I think it's fair. I think that the c. suite often is not immersed in the details and likewise. I think that your average product marketer probably does work on their own product works on for instance if they're engineers they're like sweet. I'm going to put another bell or another whistle on this thing and it's gonna be awesome but not thinking about how the customers got to use it. How they're gonna benefit from it that sort of thing and so you know. Sometimes it is doing the math and trying to quantify for them. This is probably not the first conversation but as somebody is a little bit more interested in and you start thinking about. Hey let's quantify exactly what you do. How're you saving or talking about revenue you know. How are you growing your customers business. You know what are you enabling them to do with your product or service. How does it make their life those sorts of things and then and then you're doing some math around it and what we find is that and this is probably the next step. Most folks don't go is when you're talking about value it's not necessarily just the product it might be the service it might be the support. It might be working with somebody now. Who works with construction sites. And there's a huge between you can order a part and i can send it to you versus you can order a suite of all these parts. I will bring them to the construction site. I will operate a trailer for you and hand out the parts exactly when they're needed and you don't have to worry about inventory at all so that's not a product but it makes a huge difference between them and the other guy who provides the same wiring and same switches in the same pipes. Absolutely spot on right. Let's talk about your career. You have one boss but have to work with many different departments. You have great ideas. But you can't seem to get them adopted face it. You want to earn a promotion. The solution could be insider program of champions evalu- dot com for only one hundred dollars a month. You'll have access to all of our online courses. You'll have access to me through office hours and you'll become part of a network of peers helping each other out as well sure you'll learn more about pricing boy. You'll really learn is pricing leadership. What does it take. How do you do it. You won't get promoted just doing your job. Join us to learn how to become influential. Isn't it worth one hundred dollars a month to work towards your promotion. Heck if your company has training budget you can probably access that once. You've internalized these concepts around value. You will become unique respected and promote -able come join us at insider. The champions of value dot com. I also find that most most product people. I work with even sales people. Don't have the business acumen to go figure out what's the dollar value to the customer of the things we just described right wherever that value is. How do i then go help. That customer calculate their own value. Yeah yeah and it's it's funny so mark. There's an example in in dr reed holden's book negotiating with backbone in it's about selling dirt my favorite example by the go ahead. Please stop okay. So we had a client who their business was to supply dirt. They put it into the dump. Trucks and dump trucks drove to construction sites. And that's that's all they did everyday. They were third in their market. The leader was the low price leader as well so they said well. Gosh kim cut price in a lower than the competition so how to survive and they went around and talk to their customers and the customers told them were actually. We spent a lot of time waiting in line dump trucks. Wait in line for this dirt. Which i'm paying the driver of pain to operate the truck and my construction site is now delayed because the dirt's not there and so what we found was okay. Well what if you created an express line that's of course cost more and the trucks can come through the express line so to answer your question. How do you get people's heads around this. We ask questions and use the data that comes from the customer so give you an example if the customer says hey. I spent too much time waiting in line with what a poor salesperson says is. Oh i can totally help you with that. We have an express line market costs a little bit more. But we can totally do it for you. Now what a great salesperson says is why does waiting in line matter. Oe dry reagan Track my construction. How much does all that cost. Oh gee whiz it cost me ninety dollars an hour to run these trucks and pay drivers. And so what if i were to cut a half an hour off every trip off. What would that be worth and the customers do the math. They're going well. Jesus nine dollars an hour. I guess that's forty five bucks an hour. And how many trips do you take in a day. Oh gosh you know with all the trucks. We do three hundred are what's three hundred times. Forty five and now. It's the customer owning the data. It's their data. They're owning the solution. They're starting to think about. This is a great idea that i came up with perfect. So it's not it's not selling. It's it's helping them. Come to that conclusion and i love what you just described is it's different from an roi calculator right as a company. I could have created an roi calculator to tell the company a. Here's so much money you save by not standing in line. And they probably don't trust they probably don't believe but when we let them do the math. Come up with the ideas now. It's real now. The yeah exactly mark. The world is full of conscientious. Marketers have created our y calculators. And then they get angry because the sales people never use them and it's one or two things it's either the customer says hey this is bogus or the salesperson gets two or three questions in a row that they can't answer and they dumb in front of the customer and they go. I'm not using this calculator again. So you're exactly right if really has to be done by the salesperson with the customer fact what i often say about this. Look my sales people. There's no way they know the value that any single customer gonna get from my product and by the way customer. There's no way they know the value that they're gonna be able to get from my product and so we really need is a conversation between the to figure it out. That's right of our sales. People can't do that. We're not going to have those conversations. Yeah yeah and you you see it. Mark even more on the risk side so when you talk about revenue. That math is in cost the same sort of way. That math is sometimes a little bit easier but when it comes to risk you really have to think through it with the client like who how this work if you failed at this or you know an auditor came in and you know did something with you. And what could that be worth and our experience has been that you're actually better off not quantifying the risk in many circumstances because customers go to a dark place very quickly and they think to themselves. Oh my god if that happened. I this my job. My boss was getting trouble. This would be terrible. And you don't even have to do the numbers on that part you just sorta go. Wow yeah so. I can saw that for you okay. So i'm glad you brought up risk because i find often we were in a position. Companies are in position to lower risk. Right think of it as selling insurance however you look at it. I'm going to sell you something that protects you from being hacked all i did was sell you insurance right. It's a risk thing that we're we're capturing so. What's the conversation like with an executive with a buyer. Because now i have to make them believe that it's more likely their houses gonna burn down vin. It's gonna flood right if i'm going to sell fired shirts. Yeah well if you're selling fire insurance you're probably talking about how many times houses have burned down and the more real you can make that and that's less so like what i'm doing when i'm speaking with my clients more. So what my clients doing when they're speak to their customers is to is to bring examples so we've got a client who works in the hr process space. And if you see something in the news which nowadays is probably at least once a month and you say gosh look at what happened at chipotle. Really they had an ice raid and they found out that there was a lot of illegal aliens working here or people who were just undocumented or people just didn't fill out the forms correctly and they get fined two. I forget the number billion dollars cash. We wouldn't want that to happen to you and they. Can you know if you are fast food. You arrive away thinking that could easily happen to me. Okay how do i take care of this insurance this quote unquote insurance right right. Yes so so. In that case it's less about calculating value and more about letting the buyer feel the pain. Imagine the pain. Yeah and and what we found. Mark so daniel katamon nobel prize winner too. Smart guy and your audience made no this. It's called prospect theory and basically what it is in a nutshell. Is that somebody who feels like they own something. They're starting own the solution because we talked through with they feel the loss of that twice as much as they feel the gain of something else and so that's where risk really comes into play and it's why the car dealer always starts with the luxury model because you see all the bells and whistles in the. Va now facet can go and as they start peeling away those features to get you to a lower price you feel that quote unquote loss twice as much as you would. If they started you with the economy model and said or i could give you a bigger engine out of. I need a bigger engine right. So that's how risk plays out particularly in the b. two b. space nice. Let's change topics just slightly. Because i'm really curious about another problem that i despise and i don't know the best solution to so. Let's imagine that you've gone in. And you sold value and a bunch of high level. People have sent a love. this thing. This is going to be worth a gazillion dollars to us. Let's go buy one. And then they handed off to procurement. And now your sales people negotiating with a buyer as opposed to negotiating with the cease or negotiating with the the decision. Makers i how do you keep value at the top of that conversation so it is a problem that nearly every b. two b. company fines on a daily basis and we spend a ton of time at holding advisers advising people on how to overcome what we call the procurement buzzsaw. So you're exactly right. Mark there are a variety of techniques. The one that comes first to mind is what we call give guests and what this does is it. It is guard rails and thought ahead of time that enables your sellers to negotiate directly with procurement without having to come back into the organization or to their manager and say well how about now. Can we lower the price with price and the way it works. Is that if you've offered a high value solution to the company again c. Suite bought into procurement san. I don't care about the value. I just want the lowest price about common technique everywhere from them. Yelling at you to walking out of the room to whatever there's a million techniques but they'll basically tell you they don't care about the value and what gets do as you say. Hey that's fine. I'd be happy to lower the price. And so here's what i'll do. I'll pull off these one or two pieces of value that we've discussed previously and i can lower the price by doing that and there's you know there's a ton of different ways it might be product features. It might be payment terms. It might be shipping. Might be support whatever it is. I'm going to pull off these pieces value. And i'd be happy to give you that lower price that you're asking for and what that does is exposes if procurement is playing a game with you in more often than not they are what we see is procurement will say on a wait a minute. I need all the value that you negotiated with the c. suite. Oh okay so now. You've just established with me that value matters to you and it's not only price and that has changed the conversation between you've got to get to the lowest point and i'm buying something i really care about gets absolutely brilliant and that's such a hard such a hard problem in my world. My solution to that is. I'm willing to walk away from any deal and it just doesn't matter to me. Yeah well that's exactly right to mark you've gotta have a place where you can bring them down the scale of keeping price and value aligned to appoint and then basically you can't strip anymore value because that's the most basic thing you have and if they wanna go below that you say god bless some you know maybe we can do business another time and you let the competitor take the loss because there's nothing worse than closing the deal and then sit back in your chair and thinking to yourself wait a minute just lost money on thing like what was i thinking. It doesn't it doesn't feel good anymore and you can even ask him on the way out the door. Would you like a reference to another provider. Not even out the door. gosh mark. I can't do that for you but you know who would be probably somebody you might want to investigated. So and so okay brian. This has just been so much fun. I gotta i gotta end with this question though. What's one piece of pricing advice that you'd give our listeners that you think could have a big impact on their business so it really comes down. Mark to understanding and being able to articulate your value too often. I see cost plus which is leaving money on the table too often. I see well the competitors here. Maybe i could do five percent lower than them. Maybe those things are appropriate but in a vast majority of the time it's about your value. It's about what you're doing for your customers and when you get that in your brain that's when you can price appropriately. I got spot on advice. Absolutely right absolutely right brian. Thanks so much for your time today. If anybody wants to contact you how can they do that. It's probably easiest to just go through linked in. I am brian doyle. On linked in or you can search for brian. doyle at holding visors. And you'll get to me right there. Perfect thank you. brian episode. Ninety three all done to our listeners. Would you please leave us. A review rhonda. Lynn left us. Wanted said brilliant hosts and guests mark show is must-listen for anyone in professional services. The wants to know how to better creating capture value. He's interested in inciteful. It's well worth your time to invest thirty minutes. each week. To hear from him about the most recent advancements in pricing my favorite episode is the one with ed class from sage onto lynn. Thank you ed for doing that. Episode of yes. Well don't forget the join the free community a champions evalu- dot com. That's where we post links to everything i publish. That's free or memes are blogs videos or podcasts. you find that at community dot champions evalu- dot com if you have any questions or comments about the podcast or pricing in general feel free to email me mark at impact pricing dot com now go megan impact.

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Episode 417 - 17 Again

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Episode 417 - 17 Again

"This is a head gum podcast. Gang. This week's episode is technically brought to you from the road. That's right. And we're in the middle. We're we're literally in the middle of the street, right? No, no. We got to get a record off to put put that down. This is a prerecorded bumper. But we are in the middle of our east cage tour just played Boston last night. If you are downloading the day comes at which is of course, Tuesday, April the twenty third the fly DC right now. Right. I'll give you the flight information means at the gate with a gun. No. No, no, no, no, no with with a hug, a smile. You're gonna come out to the DC improv to night where we are talking about gone and sixty seven oh, yeah, we are the remake with nNcholas cage. Of course course. And then we're going to the great city of Philadelphia. Out national treasure on Wednesday. Oh, my Lord. And then Thursday, we're wrapping it up in New York City at the Gramercy theatre to talk about one of the most ridiculous movies in the history of the medium that is the wicker man remake how to record Neil the Butte starring Nicolas Cage. It's a real trash fire. And you are not gonna wanna miss that show. The bees knees, Neil B-movie. As the east gauge Stewart going on right now. Thanks for coming out last night. Boston WHM podcast dot com. Click on that tour button for ticket info DC we'll see tonight Philly night after that NYC the night after that. This week on the program. My God look at that haircut. It's seventeen again, I'm Andrew Jupiter. Stevenson, actress cabiner Cisco, and we hate movies. Hello everyone. Welcome to we hate movies. Thank you tuning in as always this week. That's right. It's seventeen again from two thousand nine directed by bursts ears which sounds like the name of someone who had direct pornogr- years. Like someone's ears exploded Burr, B U W B U double artist, not a person S T W E R S that like a ban though it open for iron and wine. And he's the man from it could be goes down. He's the man directed Beagles. That's any good. Not remember liking it at the time. And that was in two thousand two. Yes, back when we were seventeen again, exactly. So this movie, of course, is the Zach Ephron, Matthew Perry. It's not a body. Swap movie, you think it is. But it's not no it's a body time age move the age. I think that's a DA major which is what Robert deniro's getting in Netflix soon enough on the Irish, right? Just seventeen again, directed by mine Scorsese that I'd watch that's something. That's. Are you said oh, God at the top of the show and just want this title seventeen. Again, reminds me of eighteen again and gonna early. So with George Burns, like I'm usually by Shange, David Packer, ABC 'cause I wish we might grandson grandson. Share your body. Previous episode. That's the patriot archives bats way back. That's like like episode twenty or so. Under twenty okay. With me man as. Perverted episodes were just worse. Yeah. This is just an episode on. Yeah. We're we're talking. It's Matthew Perry and Zac Efron. And they're basically Matthew Perry is unhappy with his life. Correct. And take out everyone fucking asshole. What a dick. This guy is big asshole surprises got a friend in the world. Well, his one friend is played by Thomas who's like a millionaire computer nerd guy. Sure. That's could be Thomasson is your friend. You have no friends. Thomas Lennon portrayed. Karen, sure of his ilk. I'm sure Thomas Lennon is a cool dude to hang out with and they later reprise this with the couple. That's right, right. It's had three seasons which is respectable more than expected. Did why was this? Why did we allow so many of these friends character actors to keep going on like I understand right after like, right? When friends is going, you get them, and you pick them up, and you this. This is two thousand nine people give up on the Matthew Perry thing like Matthew Perry. I don't have a problem with what's on friends. And that I liked he had a stand. Cervix shit. You remember that movie servicing Serre with him? And Elizabeth Hurley, I didn't see it. But I like his. His service. With something the porno parody way. She telling me, you wanna make a porno parody of a Matt shoe Perry film. Nobody sore. All right. I'm looking at the box. This isn't even the top two hundred, sir. All right. So you're gonna make a porno parody of Ed with Matt Hewlett blank. And you don't want a monkey in the movie or you want the monkey the fucker. Andrew, what do you like Matthew Perry from well, I've been trying to fuck and say it for five minutes trying to guess it. But you haven't seen any of his movies because you're so fucking stupid. You can't guess it. Which one was it. I he had a television show on ABC called like, Mr. sunshine or something where you ever he had a lot of television. Did he absolutely did everything he did a school just like came as a comedic actor that was a television show? I believe it was ham. Allison Janney was on. It was like the owner or a manager of a professional baseball team kind of thing. So it was like it all took place in the stadium sort of a deal. I liked the pilot of studio sixty on the sunset. It's good shit to be mined from that that Mr. sunshine is the ladder seasons of coach when he gets national. He gets promoted at the end of that year. Two seasons of him. Like being in the big leagues really mansion team. Yeah. Coach ask your grandparents coach Craig t. Yeah. Whatever the they canceled that the new version before it even aired right? That's right. New coach was reboot. 'cause creek Tina was involved was it was like Murphy Brown situation. Whereas kid was there, and I think he was like the older coach, and he was going to be in it and the prime time lineup wasn't saying put me in coach. Got to be cancelled. Right. We must have been done with that. I have no idea. We watched the first episode, and it was great because Chelsea and I were both like, okay, we'll continue with that. And never did. Yeah. That's absolutely never did. So we start in the nineteen eighties. Nineteen eighty nine. Oh, yeah. Do great year we opened in high school some kind of high school, and it's it's the night of the big game. And Jim gaffe again is there. He's the Roach. Right. And he goes up disaster that guy front, by the way, I think in in these scenes he needs an eighty circa we need to give him like. Yeah. Just give him this shaggy dog haircut. Like, no eight if eighties of five at boost in that motherfucker know, you you've just mistaken, don't, you know, it's does act Afrin real doll as doing have. You looked at these apps. He looks fake. I don't know how you get apps. Like that does he look like and you wanna fuck it. Nobody cabins right though. I thought like this opening thing is he's like warming up for the game where he. Shirt off this evening. And Chris, I think you're right. Like they have a shot of him. And I was like that head looks fake body. Could be could. I mean, he's cut. Now, we also bad grandpa, dirty grandpa, whatever that grandpa, and then he's a null. Those of fraternity rising movies. I think just the second one Rory rising a three it's trilogy fraternity rising fraternity takes over the world. I I thought that first movie was like fine. Serviceable enough big-box comedy is actually called neighbors neighboring. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Wanna make sure I wasn't missing a frat trills. Trying to pitch his new trilogy fraternity rising. It's Trump's America. Think about tell shifting really saying something. So he's like warming up and it's the big game. And there's a a scout in the in the audience, right? A scuffle Siracusa believe that's correct, and Mike whatever Mike Dexter, Donald Michael Donal can get a full ride playing basketball. Even though he's five foot six at. I don't get. A basketball player in those high school musical movies with like that's fine for high school. But no one in college is gonna let this kid sniffer bench alone going to college doing also by the whole idea that Zecha fron like if you do the time math now. Yeah. Like in ten years is gonna look like Matthew Perry. He's two feet taller that Zach that. I don't get. When did you get a growth spurt and also what did his face get longer? Yeah. The hit the berries faces just eared. Got a little bit of a pencil head. Dude, man, used the eraser. Let's get him out of this movie. And when did he just start eating pure butter for breakfast? I'll leave him alone. Here's what you do. You slice up butter. You put it on your your your cornflakes like banana. Well, no, what you do is you you put a bunch of butter in a bowl, you microwave it, and then you just drink. What's that? Protein shake. What's it kind of coffee that you can get where butter it? There's proof. I think it's bulletproof. Yes. I had that when I was in Austin a few weeks. I fucking loved it. Really? It was tasty, man. I gotta tell ya. Well coffee with fat. So it's like, you know, this is the big game. You know, you can't fuck this up. And then all of a sudden his buddy shows up who's dressed like a Gandalf wizard or DND, something or other manager Merlin the girl. The Lee clever. It's I've ever heard perfectly fine for juvenile high school boys, right because it fits because he's wearing a wizard's robe, which is interpreted as dress. Right. Right. Well, even I think gaff against got somebody like, hey, what are you wearing a dress? Can you get Boy George Addy here? Yeah. You don't get to. Berlin. The girl was a team. Well, yeah, that's coming from grown as Jim. Jim. So yes. So they're gonna take this team photo and Ephron is like, hey, we gotta wait for my buddy the equipment manager. And so yeah, the nerd walks in kind of a good gag here. The second the photograph is taken he gets fuck in total wedgie. That's the photo that they used team. It might shock everyone in this room. But I've never received a wedge e really really oh, wow. Ever been wedge guy. Got one either. Oh, I've been wedged up against your will not putting up assignments as free wedge. Could be like a kissing booth five cents tear my with a buddy. Like, hey, give be a wedgie. I'll give you like being my brother like your your best with each other. And I've I've received and given wedges. Okay. So with the brothers one thing, but it wasn't like street toughs or no nobody fucked. Nobody hung you from a flagpole, somebody insulted macgyver. So did anybody here get swirly? No, I think that's entertainment own. That's a pop culture. It's a lot of work to per to perpetrate a swirly. You know, it also like you've really got to have complete physical control over this person like resist. It's not gonna work. Yeah. Absolutely. Not well feels like that's a team boat bullying effort. Okay. What I mean? Like, that's just not a one person bullying another person. It's like you gotta get biff. Three D Phillies. Aim the other guy you get the arms. Okay. We got lower. Make sure your flush the toilet at the same time. You know, what give up your? You're told your foot at that point is just like I mean, here's the thing though. Who knows right right into the mailbag wheel hate movies gmaiLcom, if you have been or have given us wurley IRL, if you if you did give swirly you should probably find that person to apologize. It's enough time has passed. Yeah. Also that the only good thing that Facebook is for any sorry. Message the guy taking the reds with by the way, multiple bullies on Facebook. Oh, good for you all at once that bullied you over. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You get request that you want to be the bigger person. You're like great. Yeah, audit. Remember that at all? Oh, yeah. We did go to school together. I heard you were dead. You should start seeking out like new bullies like bullet contemporary bullies like high school bullies now start recruiting like have your Facebook friends list, just tire fully list. Nothing but bully believe book. That'd be great. If you could get on my God here. This is your this is a teen movie. We could make now bully book. Right. And then you can like get all those bullies. An army of bullies to do your bidding. Nice. You like bring them bring them into jobs, and it's just suicide squad. It's an army of bullies. What are you guys? Some kind of bully book. I think. I don't know just not the book bully book. It's clean either. I feel like they could have expanded on this gag a little more. But did you guys catch like the photographer taking this team photo? Yeah. He's kind of like a weirdo like creep photographer. And I was like I want more of that guy. I kind of feel like this movie is cut to ribbons. There are scenes that just end immediately or like little. Yeah. People that look like they're probably side characters that don't have anything. Not even like. Yeah. They. They. That might be part of also took me way too long to realize that Thomas Lennon was supposed to be Merlin the girl. Really? Yeah. Wow. So he's a. We do the pre game cheerleading routine. Zac Efron does some sick dance moves. He dancing. He's a story. It's nice to hear some young MC. I'll give it that. I gotta tell you. I like Zach Ephron, and I think he's a talented dancer. I think he's dancing very talented Lii in this move fine presence. I've never had reason to like anything. It's kind of that. Well, wisher thing. I hope he does. Well, like, I don't even know if is that a Bundy movie even gonna come out or what Netflix may third or something this is going to drop their. Yeah. Yeah. It'll come out. Netflix won't tell anybody then everybody will mmediately forget about it. I know harmony current as persona non grata at the Sadek house, but he is great in the beach. I like the thing is I don't know about this Bundy movie because I I've never seen any of the Zach Ephron like romance movie. What's that movie where like his dead brother comes back, or at least then cloud also directed by birth ears? Oh is that right? This. I've never seen any of the dramas. But I think he's a really funny actor he's got great comedic timing as much as fucking bad. Grandpa's? Terrible dirty dirty. Johnny Knoxville, dirty grandpa. He's funny in that. Have you seen any of his television work Denise start like like wasn't. He like in a Disney musical book at them. Movies shows three old. So he was only a movie star. Well, those are like TV movies like kinda thing. None of those were released the I'm sure someone third one. I forget it started as a Disney channel like look at the pretty kids TV show, it it was that. But it was TV movies. Do Roker pretty cute. Cuties. The Disney Rangers ride Gosling, and are you afraid of the dark? Thanks. Thanks. Gonna see here and drink my warm milk. A little wish I could've sworn he was from like a nickel loads. Loads. Look it up. He's good. The hairspray movie greatest. Showman is terrible. But it's not his fault. I mean, I just I'm just the point made his I like him. That's fine. That's fine. Don't make fun of his friend. I had a real reason to. With second run. That would probably be a buddy with that guy for sure, but he brigade he so like he's about to start game the tip the tip off and a right before the tip off is girlfriends there, and like, it's right? If the picture is, okay, cool, and egos, Tom Lennon, who's like notoriously single going to be a virgin for at least another decade. Yeah, grabs oh, man. Who's that incredibly hot chick? Oh, that's my girlfriend, and he kinda walk. Dick a little bit of a dick move. And he goes up to her. And she's like, and she does here's the thing. You have big news. Someone's got a sporting event or a live performance. They have to do that's very important to them. And it is super big news. You fake the funk? And then afterwards, you tell them to leave knowing you don't do the thing. I've gotta talk to you later. We'll then what the fuck overdoing. No, definitely not definitely not Stephen also, you make sure you enter that gymnasium after the game has started because they haven't started yet. And he sees her. And he's like, oh, I still a second go over and say, I yeah. No, no, no, no, you wait till you hear sneakers squeak in and ball's bouncing this is a special situation because he does keep on coming back and be like, no, no, no, I really need to know it gives them prisoner. And this is a an extension of my when you need to extricate yourself from a sexual encounter. I have to take a shit. Okay. I just took a loud ships, and I was. Made fun of on the way out. I'm sorry. I'm just off. That's. That's what is upsetting. You someone made fun of me for taking? Extremely vocal shit. Allowed shit. The other girls started throwing toilet paper over the real thing. Zach Ephron I just took his shit that was extremely wicked shockingly evil in vials. So if he walks out of this one game, that's it for his his scholarship chances like scouts don't fuck around like that. If you're not going to perform when they're they're I mean, they're not they're, you know, isn't there has these five six I'll guess I'll go all the way to see this fucking kid. That's five six exactly prepared a Welby kid. I heard rumors that he sinks every fucking bucket that puts up you know, what I mean? And it's like if he can do that. Then sure this tiny little kid can complain for Syracuse, by the way for listeners who don't know. Syracuse university is a college in the state of New York, and has a massively successful, very big very financially. Thicke basketball, Carmelo Anthony winter. That's right. There's not a lot of Mugsy out there. No, you not everybody can be mugs e books. Yeah. Exactly. Imagine Carmelo Anthony and Zaka front playing on the same college. And I'm doing the thing. My hands were ones way up here ones down there. You should see this this. You should see what Steve is doing hands that you should. So she's wherever I heard that before she's like, oh, it's just it's nothing. And again like she's having a day. She's going through something. I totally get it totally. But it's nothing you injure your basketball. I hope I know it's a big game. Go do it. Go joy it. And then like he's he tries to do it. He starts to do it. And she leaves because she's so distraught because of the new she has right way inside of her. And he's it will fuck I gotta just you know, he chucks the ball. And he follows her out, Jim gaffer, man pack packets. That's totally right, right. He screams hot. Well, she tells him first of all he doesn't fall. I he goes back. Tell me tell me tell me she does tell him. You're right. But we don't don't hear it at one of those moves, and that's not something you could drop on anybody. He basically she's pregnant, and as you if you're watching the movie, you know, this immediately. It's telegraph does my wife pointed out because she's just walking towards the bench like holding Tommy. My tummy international movie son for knocked up. My tummy is not or I just took allowed schist motion. You can go right through it collateral damage in this tummy is ridiculous. Shitty. That you know that new taco area that open I tried. It don't go. Okay. Don't go. That's a shockingly evil in vile shape. Just don't get any of the car needs. Tell you that. So he goes, and he could fronts and this is kind of important because it's a mirrored at the end there. Spoiler alert. Right. They go in the hallway and had this really sensitive conversation. Where is the best in the world? And we're gonna do it. He like kinda grabs her. They have a nice moment was like, we're gonna make this thing. And it's gonna be great. And then we cut immediately to seventeen years later or it's nine hundred eighty nine in president. Because this is a problem twenty years. But then dude, it says present day that means it's twenty nine hundred twenty nineteen therefore says present day, it's twenty nine point the daughter that they have when they're teenagers is now herself a high school senior played by Michelle Trachtenberg says you should be seventeen or eighteen years old, right? Therefore, it can't be twenty years. It can't be now even in two thousand and nine to two seven maybe she like just stayed into long. Oh pregnant for like two years. What if they lost the kid, and then they had a? Another. Never even meant. That's the bad editing. You were talking. Forty minutes out of the movie about the biscuit. Because I would also mean that Har Har Matthew Perry, and what's her face, Leslie, man or supposed to be thirty four in this movie. Whatever you say screenplay. Well, they did they say thirty thirty seven thirty seven seventy eight that math doesn't work. Yeah. That's true. Because of the age of the outer that math does not work. How do you fuck that up, by the way, she should be in college then or or something else or maybe you just make a different movie? I kind of totally agree with I have so many different movies to make about this movie bully book is right there book is right there right there. So you wakes up he's in eastern with Tom Leonard. He's been kicked out of much dot couples kicked out of his apartment. Right. And they are eating Compton crunch cereal. It is right in the foreground this shot the whole time when you want to start your day with your mouth feeling incredibly weird. Let's have some captain crunch, of course. Because it's all that mealy corn shit, cutting up your gums, man, you're on a bloody mouth, captain cry troublesome Syria. I like captain crunch is best consumed when you're too high to notice the camping. The bleeding. Yes. Exactly. It's just your mouth feels raw afterwards. Tough sucking on rocks. Grape nuts. Okay. Grape nuts is good. I won't have despaired. Grape nuts. You gotta soak them in the milk a little bit guys. Trust a serial that comes in the same kind of boxes of milk carton. That's fucked up. Well, you know, it's a smaller box. It's not a milk carton. You might be thinking of different. Oh, one of them. They're just grain cereals. Yeah. Eople cereal. Free pebbles cocoa pebbles, I'm a regular pet. Honey nut Cheerios ban. Sometimes they'll do Cheerios and cereal in like six years. No one line today. Really really don't haven't had cereal. Six years where you've been dead still really have cereal. I only have like when I'm like in a hotel. Cereal. Tear really? Well today was raising brand. Okay. When you stepped out of your condo at fucking del Boca vista a big supporter of raising brand cluster and non versions. Grape nuts like the open. I do like the stuff that Andrew has a distaste for this kind of trail mix e it's trail mix, which is fine. I love trail mix. But it's trail mix masquerading as cereal, which is a real problem. If you if you fucking liar serial if it comes in a box, and you could put milk on it. It is serial. Okay. Fair enough. I guess they're they're having captain crunch frosted flakes here hunting if you. Curious to if you're luxuriance, and you you know, you want to just throw caution to win maybe some fruit. Loops you know, have like the sugary stuff. I don't I don't really touch us much, but I did have some maple Cheerios. It was good news. I'm a big Wheaties person weeds gets a little sloppy towards the end. Yeah. Yeah. Go flick, your there's like a bowl of milk with a toupee gonna be sports star. Actually, I will I will lead the fat Olympics. Couple of variety. Do actually we're we're promoting the fed Olympics that we're taking it for Special Olympics right van taking the Libyan's. We'd take him to the White House in was Shelvin down bean burritos. Windies no more quarter mile, run quarter mile Pounder. I will say that Honey bunches of oats and the varieties that good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This has been the serial chat. I've been trying to keep it going to push the serial talk people love it totally. I think that might be a patriot bonus. That podcast is. So you really oh fucking. Oh, it's a murder here. Here. There's. Was about that bergenthal trail mix cereal that got lost beyond the wall. Yes. Other like that. I never finished it. But I think that's how that season then the fucking Taliban-like returned are serial. It was really nice. You didn't expect that? And that's what makes it interesting mail. Isn't a cute male Kemp. There's a lady on there in the earlier seasons. There was a lady on there that would do a male chimp read, but you male can't mail Kim. I thought it was a little child. Full grown lady. That's stupid. So Matt Matthew Perry, walls and met you. Brought it also could have been in this twenty years earlier knocked up my weight. What's that say girl? All right. I got a high school girlfriend. Yeah. Matthew, I I would very much prefer Broderick over Perry. Hundred percent. He's got to fucking gravitas. Yeah. We'll like win though any old time. He's got that Broadway. Or how about have him play got that Broadway? This movie nineteen Eighty-nine like wargames era. And you have Matthew Broderick plays Zach Ephron get like, I don't know who who would be a good. I heard multiple thing. I said Richard credit for no reason, I said Robert mitchum for less than. Robert was the correct. Fuck of I will say project does get a heads up because he doesn't think he's the king of the fucking world for no reason. Whereas Matthew berry always has to act like the snarky est fucker ever. She's a piece of shit. So he's in this move in this via and most roles he played also very also the one replays called, Matthew Perry's. So he's he's like, hey, man. Thanks so much for letting me state your place, and then as gas sorry that she threw a twenty x amount of years of this marriage question, Mark. Here's exactly and how do you fuck that up? I don't know. And it's like, oh today's the day of the big promotion because the beginning of the movie in someone's going to go for the big, and what is such boilerplate? Like, here's the big promotion. He's had all the signs leading up to this big promotion at the business land works. It's just so he's working in the pharmaceutical industry to that's about his like early odds. Like business issue man's? You make it this promotion because you hooked so many people on opioids. This. It's this big fat business meeting. And it's weird. Because it's this young guy is boss, and he's like telling them about this. New viagra? Kind of thing Viagra jokes. Does those are five years prior? It's a weird dudes. Like what if we were started telling people that having erection that lasted for longer than four hours wasn't a problem that there's some Kevin Fedor line jokes later. Oh, dude. I couldn't believe it. And he's in this boardroom. It's this guy and every other woman every other person the table is a young attractive woman. And that's what's going on here. Right. And he's like, well, I wanna give on townhouse. Dude. This guy's ready to get radicalized on the internet. He looks. And he's like, well, I wanna give our big promotion to Mike O'Donnell. Could you move, please? I wanna give it to Wendy, wait, that's a really unprofessional move. What of could bad joke? The all the old. Can you get out of the way I can give it to the person you're blocking my view Twenty-three-year-old girl? She screaming got the promotion like she's shown to be quote, unquote, very stupid. You know what I mean? But he's mad at her. And it's like this. I mean is also mad at the quote, unquote, boss, but like how did this guy get this position related to someone and he was installed like you should all your hatred should be at this young boss. Not your female. Exactly. We're all just fighting for table scraps. Dude. That's corporate America is well, and they cut around exactly what happens because he does. He I goes up against the young guy, crushes bluetooth thing. Yeah. And then he's just like has his shit rate. Fire. Did he get fired or did he quit, then I'll tell you. I think that's terrific. That's a little bit of a cut scene. Just like clearly like something else happened or whatever. And it's like, yeah. And like he's an elevator with all these women, and they're like, we're TGI Fridays. I guarantee you they shot a Jerry Maguire spoof seen. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. They were like this isn't playing anymore. Nobody remembers this movie was thirteen years ago. I think that the problem is not what who is this movie four. It's Ron heads aggrieved white men. I would say, no, yeah. Horny people. Also that people who knew second front from highschool music. What the fuck are you talking that? Wanna fuck Zach Ephron people who are mopey like Matthew pair that wanna be were ACA from guarantee new those guys did not go see this movie, a movie geared towards people who try to both ways Tomlin and Matt Perry like yours jeans to get Tom Lennon isn't filling anybody movie ticket. But how many? Right. There's a raido in my no rhino. None one is what they have on Bocek horse. Yes. Yes. So he's fired. He goes at some point he meets Leslie, man to sort of talk to her to see what's going on man is playing the older version of his high school girlfriend scarlet or scar scar which is weird catch what she thought she was named after the Ceylon ship that was sentient could fight better than the other silent. I remember scar. I was use as oh, man. I was thinking about after the lion. King ending new to me. Well, it's important though after this like job quitting or firing. He doesn't go to her weirder because okay. I just lost my job of I think he says he's been working there fifteen years because other beef with this woman getting the that she's supposed have been working there, two months. Well, and she he leaves these. I've hated you all who's coming with me of bitter guys leaving thank fucking God to hear about this. To hear about this fucking high school basketball. But this is that's the biggest loser move though. He gets fired or whatever leaves this job. He first goes to his old high school, man. Oh, man. I don't I want a rolls up. Yeah. How's he just getting in here? Guest pets is a parent of children that's tone, go to school. Let's go to the same school kids. Just hang out do actually you're right. So he must be there picking him up because the next scene. He's taking is screen. But this is where he encounters. I think it must be a Star Trek. God being. Yes. Played by Brian Doyle Murray. Witty's janitor. Amazing. I love Brian Doyle Murray. Oh him around me at all times. Young or old. I'll take Caddyshack version. I'll take this. Or why not? God being I would like it to be Brian Doyle Murray. He's just like your life. Didn't work out the way thought it would. It's three pounds of veal. You don't have an iconic brother. I've had it worse. You piece of shit. I mean, I've been making a lot of money, and I'm in a lot of good movies. But that's Bill fucking Murray. I gotta go home to avenue commercial where I do arap. It's it's no as arcade. He might be the best celebrity, brother. I'll sell. Yeah. There was a draft draft today met deal and. There's Jim Belushi the Baldwin's you can keep the higher. Brewed. Yeah. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm going to say, no to Liam Hemsworth. Yeah. No. Yeah. My first pick would be Brian Bill Murray. Then I'm gonna do dark horse candidates. Joe estevez? Oh nice. Yeah. That's good. Call. I feel like what the Hemsworth it's the thing where like you knock on the door back in Australia. You know, and you're like I can Liam come out to play. And can Chris come out to play Chris you'll one Chris and and Liam answers the door, and he says, no mate. But I'm free and you go. That's okay. Your brother from Westworld here right at the other one, right? I would I would take him over Liam. Then you got culkin's to contend with Kokin might be up there. All right. I look, obviously, if you're drafting a team you wanna you wanna get in stock now because Brian door Brian Doyle Murray stock we'll see that lasts boy Kevin lives in a bubble. Kevin Farley always picked last. Absolute says man, the brother bowl, I really want the brother draft to be a real thing. We do it. We can that happen. We could absolutely do. I have really I just I think that you're right with the Brian Doyle Murray the best one. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong audience. I think you put Joe as stove as little high chart. Yes. But that just illustrates the draw. Well, this is the question now is who is the brother, Charlie or milio? This because milio is as a person more success as a human being Charlie Sheen has the more money and the bigger move. Yeah. You could do I think that you could split up and say either one I think that's a car wildcard doing. Okay. I'll take a million though. I think it'd be safer bet in that situation. Yes. One starting free Mighty Ducks movies and another one did not news. That is also young. You're right guns. So Brian Doyle Murray act didn't work out the way you thought by the way, he's dressed like Steve's Z. Sue right now. Got the white beard. If it was read it'd be calling foul. In any event. So he's like, well, you know, is it. Well. Like puts a little scene is headed like maybe someday. I'll be magic see you later. And then we meet his two kids. One's Michelle Trachtenberg sh-. She's the older daughter. She's a senior. And then there's the younger son. Who is maybe the freshmen who was made out of gas. Nothing. This kid is absolutely. He's nothing. He's got a really bad haircut. I mean, like it's carrying dumb and dumber practically. Yeah. I'll just about if he had a big gap in his teeth, it'd be right there. And like, you know, his dad is like, hey, man. You're gonna you're popular right? Yeah. Popular. You get asked ball team. You're popular you're fucking everyone. Young. You are me I'm living through you. Because I abandoned my life to have you. I mean, that's the whole thing is just like I'm living through my kids because I think high school is the best time in your life. And I've never had a good moment in like five minutes. He's about to tell his ex wife. Well, I married you didn't because that's what happens they go out to lunch for the ice cream. We find a weird you're at an ice cream parlor with two teenagers want that. I want to do like Michelle Trachtenberg is very much like because he does the whole like you used to love coming here. And she's like, yeah. When I was a child eighteen years old right now, it's a famous sitcom thing they do this all the time where it's like, oh, we're going to go to the discoveries. Aw. Because that's where you went when you were to. I mean, this is all sitcom writing anyway. So he's like, yeah. Blah, blah. He drops off the kids and he's meeting, Leslie. Man who's like working on the yard. And he's like what are you doing out here too precious yards? What you never would do because you are always literally bitter in my face all of the time. What are you talking about this this bench project? You were going to do you said you started it? And then he said if I went to college I could afford to hire someone to finish. It was weird. Which is a weird mood. It's a weird thing to say what he's there's like a barbecue. That's 'unfinished Homer Simpson style frustrated with the bricklaying it just. It just like apparently that's mazing about this movie is like she doesn't. She doesn't leave him because he's cheating on her or is abusive or he's like an alcoholic seats kind of abusive. Yes. Exactly. But the reason is he's just a fucking drag like literally you are such a drag on this family with your sour fucking puss. I am leaving you right? He's pissed off. They wasn't being praised constantly. Yes. Well, this is what happens man, these like hot shot high school athlete burnout. Yeah. When they lose the big game or whatever. Sure they sour. And sometimes they gotta find somebody to blame. And in this instance, he's wrongfully blaming the person he knocked up. Fucked up good. So now, there's a monsoon and boring driving and he sees Brian dome. About a joke. Frit it's a wonderful life. Yeah. He's clarence. And Matthew Perry is Jimmy Stewart. I forget was there a flushing toilet in the river in. It's a wonderful life. What are we doing with this world fan theory, Brian domer- because he is magical and he's a janitor? Poseidon Horlick powers. He's big tried it here. I command this Shelvin. All right toilet power. Okay. This a little heavy here. Get two hands on. It. We go we go all my. Shredded ruin my back, the tried. It is three plungers one. She I taped it together. Here looks pretty shop. I think. And like he he jumps. And he's oh what he looks. And he sees this this spinning fucking vortex a river, very, strain and sucks him in. Because he flushed his life down. Oh, yeah. Like both of those jokes. We have bad CGI of him going in there. It's fucking horrible. You just throw him in a pool stuntman to jumping and water afford, some stunts. Sure. Okay. Okay. I mean, you got Zack Ephron money. You can do this. You got some Zeca front money. You got Leslie man Mani. You got Star Wars money coming up. We're licensing all sorts of stuff later on. So he jumps in. And you you don't see what happens you just see this guy. And now a two big suit walking around. Right. And he takes a shower in his suit, and it's Ephron again. Right. Because he's seventeen turns out seventeen again, he was seventeen at one point. And now he's seventeen I was expecting it to him to wake up nine hundred eighty nine and he could relive his life or whatever make the decisions, and then you could see that and the same way or something or learn a lesson better movie because that's clear idea of like, oh my gosh. Now, I'm seventeen again. And like, I all have to do is Neg this lady. And I won't get a pregnant enough to worry about it. But he falls in love with her. Anyway. About. But would he seriously you go back in time? And do you think he's such a bad person that he would be like, you don't really do? I'm going to prevent the birth of my children. Yes, they ruined his life. But the point that he would erase them from existence. Well, I would do it. We know you would do it too. We know we should be called seventeen now. Apocalypse? Now, redone because he's just seventeen in two thousand nine. Yes. So a much shittier time to be seventeen. Yes. But like what what is this movie 'cause he ends up going to his high school and instead of to relive the glory days always wanted to he's just parenting his fucking kids as a seventeen year olds go time for this. We should be called undercover dad. You wakes up and like Tomlin is there. And like there is such a long scene of like Tomlin and freaking out. Yes. He has an intruder in his house. We were watching this the other night. And we thought the same thing it is this should be like a ha it's you from heist like this takes between five to seven minutes their stunt choreography Thomas Lennon has to almost be heads zek. Ron and why is this lunatic with all these goddamn weapons in his house? Yes, quite seen. No less than two kicks to the nuts, by the way. And like, it's fine. Like, that's the funny gaggy get these. But again, it's a two minute gag. It's like, yeah. Do your Chris. He's trying to kill this ample stabs him once with a sore. He's standing his ground. Well, his house goddamn seen take. So fucking long these because he's got so many swords or whatever dork is and we get lightsabres. We get quotes from the. Movie weapon from a more civilized time and elegant weapon, Eric I knew you probably disappointed by this. But there is no dick look. He doesn't check his dick. Well, I soon what happened was you cut seventeen year old dick feed. It looked a lot like this one. I think. Little fitter. You weren't shaving your Bush into a hardback. Yeah. That's the only difference. Well, the things I think Chris was jewelry down there about. About. Listen, listen, we cut it right after he did do the dick check a thorough inspection. I sure probably squirted went off. Well, how we start already in progress. Thirty seven year old but thirty seven year old Matthew Perry. I think he's not getting heart for anything. Oh, well, sure. I mean, the hard on whatever that's a that's a turgid fuck in just callous, dick. Dick. That's just disappointed at the world. Guppy at the bottom of a stream dick been working construction for. A grey dick one I love about when he's like in the shower, and this whole fights, you know, whatever because of the dip shit like mop top. He's got and the fact that the suit doesn't fit him, right? He looks exactly like Tommy Wease in the room. Oh, he kind of does. So fucking funny. So it's just a head. Hey, I'm in the salt fight now. It's so awesome. It looks exactly like come on Tomlin. And you chicken. To remove. The Star Wars now tearing me a pots. Better movie. Actually, it's it's anyone that turns Tommy's oh bodies. What movie? Oh, Jesus Christ. I'd kill myself. I wanna know like how Zac Efron slowly becomes Tommy wise that coming vaguely European weirder. And weird looking more like a caveman wearing sunglasses. He keeps finding these leather suit jackets. I don't want a wear it. I'll look another wallet chain to starts living like an Estonian game. Defensely turns into that. Why do you want to? It's a high school student. Play football. Do you have Mr Smith? This is such a better movies backwards hat on. Yeah. A high school. Hey. You to what I think I got a remake of Encino man with timing wise. Oh, the cave. Oh my God. Yes. Absolutely sign me up elegant the party alcohol. So he finally is. Oh, my God, you are micro high school 'cause he lives at a picture is what that's exactly yeah. And they sit down, and this is one of those things really fucking Tomlin. Magic exists in the world. Like, Matt there is a universe where in this can happen. They don't care and play video game talking about God, the practically like this. This is a supernatural as it gets like if I woke up one morning doorbell rang open, and Steve, and it was you looking like you did when we met in two thousand two. Yeah, I'm clearing my schedule. We gotta talk about this. What led up to this? What's going on now? And what do we do to reverse this? What crimes do we perpetrate? Where are you? Sure. You're Steve way. Let me see your dick. Say fuck, dude. But this is like he's got all these like comic books fucking fantasy novels on the table. Oh, maybe where you're exposed to gamma radiation. There was a thing about like, we have you ever. Have you ever been a nor Scott vampire or cyborg? Yeah. I kinda like that bed. It was a pretty funny. He's he's no no one knows. Well, if your vampire, if you're a cyber you would want if you're a vampire, you wouldn't tell. See I'd have more patients for this research seen if I didn't have to watch the ten minute fight scene for no reason. But also the problem with Tom win in this movie is he's a big bang theory style nerd, which is a catchall nerve. It was kind of hate which is like be specific is an ELO TR head or is this jar wars guy. Yes. Some people do both. But very rarely are the as into all of it like as hard cores. All this is you don't speak Elvis end have like thousand dollar Star Wars replicas and have fucking mobile comic stuff. Also. It's just too much a lot. Time. There's none of time to be that much of a nerd, but that's the thing. That stinks of being a rich nerd like what you just don't you have so much fucking money. And you don't know where to put you just buy all this shit with the money now because because just like all this money, I'll just fame interest in something some lunatics, it is on your a hack Kokand writer writing a comedy, I want character. Let me Google nerd, oh they like Star Wars. Oh, they like fuck Lord of the rings. Oh, they like vampire Star Trek is absent from this interesting, which is what what if we wrote part of the forty year old version except for he doesn't have to grow up at all. And they just put it in this movie too. Yep. Sure. That's the same thing. Why not? So what they land on is. It's a spirit guide situation, Brian Brian Doyle Murray is a spirit guide for him. And similarly sitting at a cloud ridding and his not even close. 'cause you everyone know what the fuck this guy is he's Mr. missile plaque at this point my name backwards. Oh, no. I had to go back to the fifth dimension. So by the way, we goes to school what seventeen again. Yup. Ed hardy talk about at heart. And it's a joke. Right. Isn't Joe, thankfully, I wasn't sure at first because I think the model for that company is Ed hardy when you wanna look like a fucking dish bag when you look somebody that puts Cologne on their dick. You know what I mean? Like, you fades, it not just a spray like and Lascher drip ball dip. Well before this happened. One of your biggest pet peeves happens. Oh, yes. Yes, hamas. Leonard is at his gaming console. This Kenny Loggins, even though he just found out magic exists in the fucking world. And then he said he's like I'm never going back to school. Nope. Never never ever never ever. Oh, I can't believe you're talk. This. Yeah. That's also it's an obnoxious nerd thing here, right? When he gives that little puts his foot down. He's doing the playing multiple video games at once. I have all these concepts. It's just the demo screen going by not playing anything and another thing that super nerds. Like, he's apparently the huge tech guy. When does he have time for all this nerd shit? Retired is like a he sold accompanies Sean Napster so ill defined on fanning the shower banning, whatever goes, but that's he says like I've made a an app you can download music illegally with and I made the the app that like takes that away. Oh weird. I'd miss that detail these Jillian air, and he's just kind of sitting around being lazy? So like, he pretends to be dad, and like he like Photoshop all these pictures of him in the high school, and including playing soccer. And what Chelsea pointed out? I didn't hear this detail from this case so far. But apparently, that's what Laurie Laughlin did with her daughter. Ella routine? Photoshop Photoshop pictures. Aman? I'd do you think? Listen. I bet you they saw this movie. Do you think that seventeen against she was like say like she was waiting for her piece of shit thing to come unfree form when this plane beforehand, and she was like, oh, maybe I could do that for my stupid daughter? I think that's not impossible. I think it's the most obvious answer. Too hard time. I'll Lord I hope so no, no not at all. Anything? It's going to be some weird decision would be like, oh, actually, we're going to give her money. Now, we're always the government are just going to give her money because that's how this planet works. What if it's thing? We're both her in Felicity Huffman are sentenced to work on a fun, and then the bound together, and they have to run into the hill country this movie bound. The movie fled where they're both handcuffs together, which was fled. That's a Stephen Baldwin a inferior brother and Laurence Fishburne prime. Oh, I don't think I ever saw all aren't they also like the which aren't they literally attention or? No, no, they're just in love with each other bound by the heart. Yeah. Love is derived from the defiant ones. Tony curtis. Right. So I think they might be tied up. I think Chris Maloney might might get them who in in bound Crispell Onis main villain. He's the bad guy that move. Yeah. No, Joe Pantoliano. No. There's also Chris it's been a while clearly for me. I remember them being handcuff. What happened is a celebrity brother came along. Derek Maloney, and he turned to shit Derek baloney to Chris Maloney turned into Joey pants, your Joey again, again, eight seventy Joe Pantoliano that Joe peddling on who turns back in his ACA fron eight they look a little more like each other than height at least. Yeah. Dude, swayed like he got to go back to New Jersey in the sixties. Finally, I could use that word again. He's in was a risky business. And he's. I isn't he is he the bad guy. He's like the movie Eddie and the cruisers who've is he a cruiser. I think he's like the crooked manage I've never seen the movie. Fuck moving. Yeah. It's a fun. Yes. So he the the the principal. There is jammed from the office played by Murah harden. I believe a harden. Yeah. And like Tomlin's instantly smitten with her he also like does himself up like he's got like the come into the school. He's got like frosted tips. He's also dress like an asshole holid- peacocking in this film, peacock later later thing. Yeah. But like this time he's just said him just being a douche. This isn't being dish bag. Zaka you'll Klay Aken right now. That's a joke. That is a joke. And then yes, and they're like, why are you wearing all Ed heart as well? I saw Kevin Fedor line wearing this. And that sounds right. And girls like looks like k fed of what what are, you know, Kevin light his seventeen year old girl. It makes sense for Matthew Perry acting that like something Kevin fetter line. Did was cool. But like Diddy young people everything Kevin Fedor line was cool that doesn't make any. No, I don't think. So also that would that woman of like the little trio of mean girls that walks by she's on the good plan. Yeah. She's incredibly funny on that show. She's the other Chris when Kristen bell. She's the one who she replaced. She's the other. What is Eleanor Eleanor? Yeah. Yeah. So reluctant reluctantly. Jan from the office Moore heart Moore Hardin lets him in because he's a straight a student yada yada, yada. I just don't understand how like you're not looking at any official documentation. What is any of this again? How do you register for school and then associate yes, social security number and he his to go to college. That's only going to get harder. Exactly. That's the end game for this is like dude, you gotta die on deadman's curve, buddy. Second question. His plan initials. Oh, cook to relive my life. Again. Do you wanna be my dad, and like Tomlin is like well, you did stop me from being bullied a lot in high school? So I guess I'm your dad forever. Now is he gonna take them to college? Even if it's a full basketball scholarship. Someone's gotta pay for books like where is this money while he's got on unlimited funds so much so that they takes him out to get new clothes, which also includes a luxury car of an Audie. Yes, I guess he's rich, but how fucking and rich. Are you a none of this matters? It's he's rich enough that in order to get a date with Moore harden. He offers to buy every student in his high school, and I. Had a laptop actually. Oh my God. Pardon me, fat laptop. I fucking line. Moore harden is he shakes her hand says our hands made a baby I guess if you heard that from someone I don't care if they bought you a planet. I'm thinking you just put dry come in my hand very much xactly. What I'm thinking quick question. Yes. If I was fifteen Chris. And I came to you in a fifteen again. Would you be my dad forever that we're ju- the fuck out to do it? No, do I have money or no money. You got a lot of money. I'm fine. Then dad to it. What a scam. It will be fine with say, yes. But then when you're sleeping, I'll take a pillow out for your head. I do it for like a week. It'd be like always do. I'd be like Steve. What is the endgame here? Stipulation. I'd have to see your dick. I make sure you true. It looks the same. My dick is like Paul Rudd. You know, what it's seventeen thirty six eighth different. Wow. That's a beautiful. This isn't good opening episode of Steve's dick the podcast. What kind of mail him look? Feeding that. Anyway. At the bottom of the bowl that are all these. He isn't that a dick sling reading Weiner student, but like come on people say we need to look at my weenie. Nobody fucking said seven years, I just got back from careers. Look at my weedy. Hey, what cell what he'll fried my weenie in Korea. Old veteran talk. Sure, right. Old veteran podcast, dick. You'll have old veteran dog. No, they're gonna get my weedy drawers. So Zac Efron or Matthew Perry technically, MRs this divorce meeting with Leslie man, it turns out that even with cool clothes on a cool car? He's still a bullied nerd a little bit as the new kid in the school. He goes into the bathroom and finds his own son taped to a toilet. Yes. Duct tape, which reminded me of the funniest part of the breakfast club. Which is when like it's the real emotional part. We're all sitting around the breakfast club. And right. You know, Allie Sheedy's talking about her rotten life. You know, what do you call it there? Molly ringwald, like, you know, I hate myself, my mom, hates me, etc. Fucking Judd Nelson. Like my dad puts fucking cigarettes out on me. Then fucking Eddie Michael halls. I brought a gun to school to fucking kill myself. And then Millie west of balls to hate mmg man ahead to take this kids together. These story about how kids as together, but he talks about his buns. So much work buttons is us, and you have to imagine what that kid had to his dad the fucking humility Asian. I saw his weenie. So we had a little bit of an it's a wonderful life raff. Now, we get into one of a couple back to the future. References here. There's a lunchroom scene where he's he gets his son off the can, you know, and he's like all right? Well, now, I'm going to be friends with my son. He says that he is Thomas Thomas Lennon's character because he knows the family like, I'm whatever's bastards on the know about her. Bastard this to the lot. It's so funny because it keeps on saying he's neds bastard. Oh, really, Jon snow. Stocks pestered who's having lunch with this kid, and then the bully from the basketball and stand the bully older boy from weeds. Oh, yeah. Yeah. With hunter Parrish. That guy's name. So there is a very similar scene of win Marty. And biff showdown in the lunchroom, except it's like Zach FRANZ like fucking dress in this dude down a little too cleverly in and also gets you guessed it, a little homophobic, because it's just like, you know, there's only one or three reasons you'd wanna fight me. One is your agay guy in the closet. Insecure. Little girl bagging on the closet door. That's what he says. Oh, there it is that, but then he's like, oh or you're too stupid or your ding-dong is smaller whatever's weenie, and he's doing this while it is it's sack Ephron doing some cool basketball like finger spinning which apparently was not a special effect. He's no definitely not. And when he does the little weeny he fucking flips that basketball and gets on his pinky. And I was like, wow. This kid's Easter. This is what any like mature father when he's given the other chance to go back to the young. What you do is you pick on young children. That's what it's very good thing. Seven teen again. But he still Matthew Perry underneath all. I'm sorry shit. There's something that comes up here that Leslie men calls him because like he's missing the divorce court. Yes. Oh my God. This is so fucking fucking wildest thing. I've ever seen my life the background some girl asks while he's on the phone with those wife. If you're okay with dating a tenth grader. The lawyers always get full custody funny line. Well, also, the thing is he's like she he missed a fucking divorce hearing like that's why he gets the phone call in the middle school. He's like oh shit. Let's reschedule interesting up. Yeah. There's no like oh. Okay. Don't the by. He's he's with the Incas in Peru. He had to go out of the country or something it such bulls better better movie. If there's an idol involve don't Brian Doyle Murray, let's kind of vice versa route. Yup. And it was funny because I had seen this movie before I remember, none of it particular g out situation. Sure. But I watch it the other night, and I'm like, all right? So what is it is an idol's? Get struck by lightning was shaken hands. Awkward more shifted some countries as an idol people worship me for my role in Christmas vacation. Do you think you know, how like you hear stories about anytime? George went goes into a bar. It doesn't have to pay for beer. How often do you think? Brian. Doyle Murray is getting jelly of the month club just gives them a little jar jelly. Well, I'll tell you from Caddyshack. He's definitely getting a free balls. Is also getting free pounds of veal's. What Scrooge what he plays Bill Murray's father in the flashbacks that it's like he go I got up that for Chris busy drops down big bag butchered. It's three pounds of veal. A bad. I would think too. You put into freeze will be fine. When you're twenty. So yeah, he's he's like he realizes now that this this psycho bully recalling psycho for some reason Cyclo tattoo on his next the psycho. Well, and is dating his beloved baby daughter, Michelle Trachtenberg. Dates and he's not into it. But he's very into his son fucking mature. That's weird dichotomy. He's just like. He's a son get your different, Honey, no way, you know, what? I mean. That's the whole movie kind of is. But it's just it's sexual goalie. Or sexual traffic coordinator the thing as a parent. You can see like this dude is no good short Dan's. No good. Dan is no good. He's just no good. The boy has innocent crush on the cheerleader. I get it. It's creepy that he's playing sexual manipulator here. But at least it's not like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with STAN. And Jan he'll being an adult. But this is like what American society teaches about sexuality is that you have to like boys will be boys. You've broken. And girls have to be like the Virgin, Mary even we're like how can. Even we're like how can this game of rope? We play this -ociety. And I would I would only point out. It's we only don't know anything about Christina the cheerleader because they don't write anything. He's not a Carol sandy. It's just a piece of shit Kerr barrage. This kid is. Stan is fucking living Williams ABC o'cl crip note, basically. Yeah. Absolutely. You wish case can hold Williams app because lunchbox then like the fucking the sexuality stuff is. So because he's he tells his daughter at some point like in Afghanistan, she'd be dragged to stress. That's so weird. One real weird one. I'm gonna stand up for that one weird one. We'll just this weird thing where it's like, I don't even know what the content. Doing X they drag out through the street, by your hair. Like a total right guy in this high school because he's just like, hey, yeah. Absence is cool. And he's doing all this like that's the weird part. So yeah, I I oh my God. He's the hawk guy in school, all the girls. Go nuts over he's addressed like Tom Cruise school and looks exactly like Tom Cruise. I said the same thing and intentional. All these girls are going nuts. So they have this health class Margaret show. Let's see her in a movie. Yeah. Totally. She was on the mass singer actually way. She's singing shoes. I forget what character really was the hawk. Forget was it better than my singing on our YouTube channel. Well, would I I did as mask singing thing for Stephen our YouTube channel, I I will use a clip from right now. It was actually pretty critically acclaimed. Okay. In any of us got above fifty percent around two. So she's their health teacher, and it's like it's sex day. And she's like, look, it's always sex, Dane. Here's all these condoms. You know, that's how the state runs it. You know? What? Everyone. He goes, everyone take a con. And then stand takes a big handful of you need dish because you're fucked. I believe the line after taking this copious amount of content with the need. He's basically he says this'll do for this weekend. Oh, man. It's like seeing Cooper acquitting junior in New Orleans. I know that man. Zaka fronts, like no, I'm not taking account, but he gives big impassioned speech about like, how don't you want someone to make love to you larage, dude? And. All the girls all in for it. Throwing their is like yes, this guy's just now is the gross Christian. Yes. Take us Christian kid horse because it's like when you're holding your baby daughter, I'm like fuck, and why doesn't he have some line about you could feel her heart to this crisis? Should do you? Remember what you did in high school where seventeen again, we living your fucking store. Do you? Remember what happened with us seventeen? That's the bullshit thing. Eric is days. Okay. For me to fuck. But if any other person fucks it's wrong because they're younger than me. Well, yes, that is what they added toot is. But they make a point. There's a scene where he's eating all this fucking junk food because of that apple isn't is sandwiched back back at high levels. So he's just fucking putting and it makes sense. It's actually a good scene because your body is back at that stage. And you would eat like that. But he's not horny at all. That's the weird thing. But said warning this about that sandwich seen I didn't need like that. And I was still fat. You know what I mean fund that kid? Sandwich. And I don't wanna hear just slowly about metabolism. Whereas the we. Yeah. Toad the fucking that's a weed sandwich. That's a shaggy from Scooby doo exactly that saying which is one of two scenarios either you're fucking highest balls or you're pregnant, but imagine being in health class, and it's doing kind of jokes, whatever. And then some kid some little weenies. Maybe he's good looking. Maybe he's no, it's we ne-. We Nuss gets up on newer wieners back and career they blew his brains all over the Pacific. He's included in. Wow. We need a war. Got a wall. We wore. Oh, yeah. We go to prank on the we took his drawers wants to put up the flagpole salute that skid, Mark we said, yeah, we took there's one little weeny back, and w when he was little tiny boy from Brooklyn we injected him with his Jupiter soldiers open. I was the captain America over je story, but exit real kiddo. Do remember as we can killed them. And blamed it on the enemy. Welcome back to VFW here sheen casualties of war as you net with Leany. What was the podcast called the veterans toll though? I forget whatever it is someone like, wow, we need worn for is actually probably better. But like little kids, we need we need to the bad together and have abstinence. This kid would be a pariah in second absolute guy that talked me out of getting lay Christian kids the bibles at this kid who would be brutal. Probably would. So at some point he goes over to his his former residence sure pretending to be friends with his own question. Yes. Does have a job. She must starting. Lance yard lands. Matthew Perry ruined his life and inquisition marks by having a kid now and getting this job that he hates. But somehow this is enough to pay for this enormous Mansion House, they have with this fucking yard this Cedo, man. Scientists aren't graduate high school in nineteen eighty nine. You could do I guess that's what it is actually true gen-x fall backwards and crippling student loan debt. So that Yep. Yeah. Okay. No. It's actually totally plausible. I know, and it just it immediately starts with like this movie. The weird thing about this movie that weird problem with lesbians character is that Zach Ephron is doing a really bad job at hiding that. He's Matthew Paris. And she's like, wait a minute. Nah. Like the second time of super obvious shit. Like, she'd be like, okay. So you're my husband and clearly you've been shrunk down. Somehow. How did this happen what she's not even making a phone call to I know she hates Ned, but not even a phone call to get your fucking kids out here and trying to fuck me constantly. She hate him yet. They're a whole point that none of them like talking to Ned. That's how they excuse not fucking checking on their pin zipping incident a couple of summers ago. It was a troll right at the poed house walked in on the shower took five minutes to leave. But man is like oh, wow. You look a lot like my husband did in high school now. It'd be like oh fuck I because again, memory, changes, etc. But like if I saw again, if I saw any of you fuckers for fifteen years ago. Oh fuck. That's exactly what happened something. Hang. That's fucking shitty. Looking kid close? Steve. Whatever. Right. Yeah. Like who cares? But by the way, this scene like she's grabbed his face and. I would say she comes. She comes onto him for a little bit history fence because Nicole Miller is the other woman in this is she from Reno nine one cul Sullivan, and you. She was on TV. Okay. She's doing I think the same exact character from king of the hill. Not king of the hill. King of queens. Yes. Queenie Lisa Ridha, the friend. Is it the same little remedy the revenue mom, but her friend, isn't that her Nicole and never seen the second of that show. I tell you in any event the colts. The colts sort of character. Not really she's you gotta get out there and fuck, and she's like do I and then like she gets drunk. Yeah. This touch this face and then like Zach ephrons movement. Here's like, I'm good ingratiate myself with his family. I'm going to help her with the lawn because he's helping the the one kid TRAN for basketball. She psychotically starting his daughter to protect virginity, and he is trying to. Hey, can I help you with the lawn? Mrs whatever the fucker name is she? Well, I guess you can still O'Donnell dress. Mrs O'Donnell MRIs, well, actually, she's going back to her maiden name, which is whatever the fuck. Mrs whatever, MS whatever the fuck. She's yeah. Basically this into the paper boy, and she pees on them at one. That was weird. It was weird. And she was like, listen, it's for the lawn. And then and then all of a sudden toddler is tied up spreadeagled a hotel room. What the fuck? I mean Lee Daniels seventeen again is. That movie's a wild ride still never seen it. I just being it's yeah. It's kind of worth watching once. I feel coal Kidman's doing the ping. Yes. Yes. On Zach effort. I haven't seen it either. Do we see a stream? No, no, the no direct. There's UP she pees on a, but it is sort of. It's a sexy sort of thing. But I just always thought that it was like they were in the bedroom. And it was like water sports. Definitely see some jobs coming down there. They don't cut away for. But like nobody's getting a gold medal in water sports. Well, at least drops the. That times in so K. It's like it'd be minus Eric just fast forward to the part where Pete. I watched road house plants, let's put for the fading seeds. And the paper boy for the PC people for the jellyfish. There's a weird thing around here. You'll notice this. And it's just like it's weird because I guess movie has take place in two thousand nine because we do have like an early first gen iphone. Yeah. But we also have a lot of bad flip phone videos. My theory about this that it's put up by big cellphone trying. It's an advertisement for the idea of self. You're right because it cell phones of all kinds of close ups in this movie. It happens twice at one point. This is a fight that he gets with STAN in the middle of school. And guess stand beat the shit out of him kick, and then everyone films it, and then this idea, and it's hilarious. Look at all these fucking Grady s phone it's so funny. Oh, man. Let's send these video literally text message each other these videos all we could do with them though. I I already saw it on YouTube. Okay. You too was just a mere two years old. How do you like that? But so we get sent to the principal office because of this fight in allows Tom Lennon to come back, and this Eric is when he's peacocking he's dressed like a disco cowboy he looks ridiculous. He's enough. Some pickup artists. And this is when this get cut because he's she's like are you trying to peacock means, maybe? And then like like, you don't even you know that that was a six minutes seen. Yep. That this whole sub story with the two of them. Yeah. Is absolutely unnecessary. It's totally useless. And you can see it coming a mile away. Like, you know that at the end. She's I turned to my wife. She's going to be hurt. She's going to be a he engineer, and it would have been fine. If it was just like like, he says, he does throw a line and Elvis and she returns it, and you just know you're going to date you have to see their whole fucking thing date, and then a second date and in bed. Yeah. In land speeder bed, by the way. Oh, yeah. Peter bed. Pretty cool. Jealous. Horrific window into if I did not get married. That Darth Vader coffee mug. I thought you might be in that one could pull off. Just keep it at work where no one can see. Or vice versa to keep it here in your house. We have a big long montage of helping helping train the basketball kid, he's helping with the the yard maintenance and everything she turns over this yard pretty fast. You oh my God. It's crazy. It's like a property brothers where there is a fucking moat in this backyard. Fucking sick. It's amazing. I couldn't believe it. This is the kinda shit where I'm seeing it. And I'm like see if I could be guaranteed. I'd have that. Yeah. I'd wanna like own a home. But I also want to do anything to achieve that. Yeah. Work on the lawn s few and we work on the lawn as view, and we'd but there's a really awkward thing after she shows him the lawn and whatnot. They're like doing some flirtatious stuff here Leslie man's like kind of falling for literally the person she fell for their dancing learning. How to dance it? Yeah. And the doorbell rings, and she's like, oh, I have a date, and it's like, I don't know this actor's name, but he's just like a schlumpy guy. And I lot of thing either in like a dating scenario like this or like, he's maybe like the fourth guy in like a CSI kind of office. And this is Leslie fuck, and man, you know, what? I mean, this dude should be carved marble. Yeah. So this dude like comes to pick her up and fucking sack Ephron douchebag ler. This oh, you're going out with his douche bag again. Like and the joke is like she's like the guy's like well. Yeah. That happens. You know? She's he's just protective his, oh, that's my son. That's why son's friend is kind of weird. I get the fuck Eddie your kid, totally kind of funny. I'm actually half douchebag on my father. Got a good. I kid. Stay here. And fuck me, your house friend. Not not not a has. She does even sort of like immediately. When he even says L, let me help you with the lawn work. She's like, you know, look, I know you guys are into the cougar hunting or whatever the hell, right. That's not gonna happen here. And he's oh what for extra credit could use it on college applications? I dunno. Yeah. Job experience. I wanna be a lawn person. Not the reason I land part is up to recently. This person was your nephew. Yeah. Like that never really comes into. Not related. It's a friend uncool situation. If it's Matthew Perry's fucking brother, they were married. Uncle ned. No, he's has. Like, it's like if I had a stupid, baby. And I brought you over it was like, look, it's crews. Yeah, they're no they're not brothers. Oh, okay. Now, this is just something people do. We're all family befriends. This is the party scene where STAN picks up a Michelle Trachtenberg role in by the way. What are we talking two thousand is my question is this a joke? I think yes, I think it's supposed to be like look at this asshole still lint roll in on ironically it, but it still doesn't know cookie by the nookie excuse me. But still doesn't make any sense. It would make such Matthew Perry was listening to fucking nookie. Isn't this the weirdest soundtrack in the world yelich spoon? And then limpest weird. So then they go to this party, which took me way too long to understand was at a bowling alley. But it's a bowling alley. But this other shit, go get rock and roll bowling alleys. But like, well, it's like those places we have like bowl more Lynn's. Now, where it's like, it's an entertainment complex where in the majority of the property is taken up by a bowling alley. Can do other call that what to expensive for bolan? Yeah. It's how much person. Yeah. I don't think. So I don't think so. And you know, what here's the other thing bowling shouldn't ever ever be fancy. It should never be luxuriant should never be fancy. It should never be hip. It's fucking bowling. And it's awesome. Just the way it is everything should smell like forty year old cigarettes. There's warm beer at a bar. Having a great time. You can ever shaking everywhere to live show. A wieners veteran. Joe whatever who died in career, you know. Would you like to go sexy bowling after this normal? Well, you would do. Wow. The live podcast of how at bowling l. Exactly regular bowling. Yeah. And you do a lot of crowd work. Forget you were you were host to get in even like Steve call that rock and roll bowling other places like midnight bowling where it's like, we're turning the lights off the music changes. There's black light pain everywhere. Even that was a little too much for me, man. I'm a tried and true like lebowski like like kingpin like those kind of bowling alley depictions. Absolutely. You shouldn't be able to get a MARTINI. Yeah. While you're you're absolutely right. And you see those posters for bowl more. And it's like come have luxuriance time only fifty dollars a person, and it's three drink minimum. And there's a live DJ. Fuck you. So that's just bowling alley. They're they're a big part somebody's birthday or something. Yes. And the basically he's trying to find his he's a trying to get it. Literally, Matthew Perry. Is trying to get his son laid and his daughter, not laid right? So that's one lay one no way. One cock and one cock block. So he's trying to get the sun with the other girl, and he's looking for Michelle, Michelle Trachtenberg, and these three women just. Does does well to be like shut the shit down immediately because it'd be weird if you FOX anybody as a seventeen year old shore, and the movie knows that it's because these girls and they're like aggressively sexual ready to go. It's not just like, oh, you're cute. Let's get a let's go to I wanna fuck you right now. And then there was no I wanna fuck. You know, I want to fuck the rain. It's my birthday. I get to fuck him. Yeah. And you know, kids are grown up so fast these days crazy. I mean, one second learning to ride a bike the next second fucking swank balling learned to ride ultra them much. And he's war. There's a good bit of physical comedy here. Or the sun's trying to talk to the girl that he likes. Yeah. Accidentally sets his pants on fire and this kids do some good physical comedy about it. Like, he does the like he's going to just walk away really fast gag. I was laughing at that. And see because at least if he had wanted to like have sex with the the teenagers like blend in he has to repress it. Mark movie. Could have been. No be thirteen again. It was Larry Clark seventeen against a little old for Larry. Instead of that. You get like you have to respect your. So like give me a fucking break. Just get out of there. And then again, oh fuck I forgot Christian kid. What was what was they even thinking fucking wasting my time. And like, basically, he Bob, blah, blah. He walks Michelle Trachtenberg, he does there's a big blowout right here. They have a huge argument. And she rightfully is. Like who the fuck are you what is going? Yeah. Don't try to intervene in my sex life situation, because she's like she's doing the whole like oh, yes. Stan. Like, he's my forever guy. She says they're going to move into gather after they graduate skip college. He Matthew Perry is aware that she has been accepted to Georgetown. And this is I guess California. And she's like, you know, and so stands going to fuck off. And do whatever I'm going to go to whatever community college around here. We're gonna move into gather that sort of he's on the Home Depot track to be a manager at Home Depot. That's right. It's also that's also weird. Like, we're just shitting on honest work. Exactly what he's totally bothered me. Of course. Because that's the joke. Oh, these people these people in the servant class. Yeah. And we're the fucking building our lawn class of people or whatever the fuck in this bowling. News that we'd think I think someone may have had to call the ambulance here. There's all these nerds locked in the trophy K. This was so weird. And they're like sexualizing them as women humiliation. Yeah. This is what the even noticed. They're like they're. On their head. Where is the manager of this bowling jocks or like yelling at them, very homoerotic? There's no teachers also in that scene when Zack Parker show with Zakar front is dressing down that kid in the lunchroom. He's bouncing a basketball and yelling at this kid. You can't basketball in the lunchroom. Hey, we're stricklin. Just the bullying, whatever. But you're not basketball my lunch. This movie could use like forty percent more Jim gaffe again authority figure. Totally right. Yeah. Different. Use these situation. And the whatever and the coach something so whatever we're at the big game. Yes. As big game. The sun has also made the basketball team at this. And basically it's like the ba- the game ends its play for STAN he takes the three in the corner. But as ACA fron throws it to his son his son makes it now. He's a big basketball hero. Yes. All this commotion. Everyone's like oh shit. This is exciting Zac Efron like later like the next day, or whatever they're all still high on the thing, and he just yells out in the middle school victory party at my house and all schools like yeah. Got it. We'll see there. Yeah. What's your address had? This is this is one big cell phone comes in again. Deep tape big party at bikes TST type, I think I think deep texted MAC the day Tepe Tepe. Texting you Mike. Tending good text message about the big party at my losing, my keyboard it from teen nine. Doing twit tweet tweet. We video chat the sippy skull. This guy. Did it today? Oh, I love it. Yes. So it's like my wife noticed one of the cell phones. Just like the address the to Texas is just as everybody. Yes. Okay. Selva because also concurrently this is when Tomlin and funding gets date with Moore hard, right? It's just like it's one of those things where like he just something ridiculous. And he offered by the school, laptops, just fucking go on one stupid date with you. You're aggressively wearing me down what we do in movies. Yeah. Since it worked so just keep on harassing at this point. She as somebody who walks her to her car and ever Thomas, Lennon's eggs. Oh my God. He's. It's under the guise of a pity date or whatever when they finally get there is when the Elvis comes out, and they realized they have this common interest, and this this she's a super nerd as well, she's like Star Wars this. She's fucking Elvis. Halo comes up sick. Oh, wow. How'd you get Hilla? When the download pack doesn't come out until Thursday. Not everybody. Not every I happen to let comic books Eric likes fucking game of thrones. And we both kind of overlap a little bit here. But it's not all the same. I love Star Trek. I don't give a shit about halo. Exactly. It doesn't work that way that dinner scene is so obnoxious though, because this is like the movie has told you there's about to be like a big party. That's pretty much end the movie. Sure, and you're like, oh, cool. Here we go movie the big party, and the movie has to stop to do this date scene where Thomas Lennon is taking two minutes on a gag about tasting wine. All my Lord is this all unnecessary. You give that guy a room for a gag. He is going to make that gag. It's just insane. And I like him a lie to think he's incredibly funny. These characters are not needed in this. At all. And I mean, I guess the point of it is like oh sister away they can have the party at their house. So let's look at their date. I don't give a shit look at the party. I know he's out of the house. That's all it doesn't matter. Thomas Lennon should have as much screen time in this movie as Matthew Perry does which is to say not a ton though. They. At the party, the the the sun hooks up with this girl. And he's yeah. Way to go while Leslie man's also watching by the way because she shows up, but Michelle Trachtenberg earlier in the day breaks up with STAN because he wants to have sex with her. No, no, no, no stand have sex with her. She says, no and stand dumpster, exactly. And like Matthew or ACA doing backflips about it? And then at this point she and he gives her again, this really sensitive speech about wanting to somebody you love, etc. Etc. And that's what she starts to fall in love with him. Yes. A little back to the future you here. Yeah. When he gets knocked out by something because there's another fight at the party got stand. Again, punches the shit out of him, and he wakes up, and this is exactly back to the future sewers. Yeah. Caressing? Yes. And he's like, oh, I dreamt. I was back in nineteen eighty nine seventeen and blah, blah, blah. It's like why didn't you also just have like, well, you're back now in good old two thousand nine really do if you're going to do that like whole hog hit well drained, your balls three times? Like, he can't escape. He he sorry you had sex with your daughter. Seventeen. Again. That's what you do. What happened? This is what you want. Brought it to very turns into a monkey's paw. There is not enough of him like appearing in class reflections or something. Got it. Right. That's why you wanted to go back to high school. That's how you could tell it was daughter. She's got a Boehner. Utah emissions you're from God. Goes through the griot Doyle Murray. Don't don't say. So my name in the inside of an old desk say backwards. I go back to. So he realizes that she has his head in her lap. And she's like leaning over him. There's a cleavage. Joe's jury a- and he gets up and he's like, no we can't make out. There's a weird like another two second thing. She's like, oh, you're confused. Oh, and he's like, no, I'm not gay. That's what I love is. You're you're in this position where your daughter's sexually attracted to you and good way to put fucking water on gay. You can't even even for for want of that he can't even be perceived as gay in this elaborate ruse anyway. Yes. Because she goes and this make any sense because we just got over the fact that like she doesn't wanna have sex yet. Yes. And like, she's I'm a lion in Europe Zelma where the fuck did this come from. Yes, she. Well, that's so fucking of noxious about the writing here. She changes into a completely different per sex pot cartoon art tune. And it's like now now, wait a second. That's like, it's just it's bad. It's so obviously terrible. And then like, oh, no, I'm not. I'm not definitely not gay. But I've been in love with the same girl forever for since. I was seventeen and she's like, okay. Blah, blah, blah. This is when he meets with Leslie man, he tries to kiss her. She slaps him in the face. Yeah. Michelle Trachtenberg spots in the face. Well, it's a funny like she's saying like Michelle Trachtenberg is like there with a couple of friends. Whatever. And she's like, well, he said that she's he's been into another girl or I don't know who that girl could be and then like the whole group of them look up and see the making our, and she's like mom, none of that comes to anything should've slaps his face. And then like everybody slaps him. And then Tomlin Moore hardened show up. They kick everybody out and there's a gag Tomlin. It slaps him in the face a couple times. Yeah. It's pretty funny, by the way, guess what? You this house is full of relics and memorabilia and probably loose cash. This guy is everyone stealing for this guy's house. Bunch of little high school kids. They got sticky. Sure. Everything like, all this collectibles wars. Helmets and stuff that you put in a lot of beer bottles in things only to be found months later. Once the smell has struck action comics number one. Speed. I mean, the racer bed has got to be destroyed. Somebody fucked on that I see that bad. I'm fucking. Sort of down the last act of movie his divorce proceeding is the next day. And he goes with Tomlin in and like he does this thing like the divorce proceedings going to without him. Because he's been given ample time to show up a letter here for Leslie, man. Told me not to open. It took two thousand nine the boys back down to the office. Whether or not you'd beer at this court proceeding. You get Joe Flaherty, dude. Get Joe Laird, and I want it. I am quitting the office. And he starts to read this letter. He says from Mike O'Donnell right on his behalf. And it's this really long speed the emotional. And then he just leaves the leonardy walks out. And she's like what you're on early. Can we take a break, the judge postpones it she picks up the letter, and it's just the address of the courtroom, and he said that all from the heart and this fucking finally. Yeah. Is when Leslie man is like wait sick. And also wouldn't failure of this movie. I think is not establishing Matthew Perry either physically or like Habich Alie where like then Zac Efron could do some of those things to sort of link those characters. What's funny is he will? He does though at the basketball game. Does he because she there's another big game? That's happening. And you end the movie he's on the court. And she he does like he does he touches his face points or something. And it's what he did when she walks into the gymnasium at the. Ginning? That's like finally the beating her over the head like oh my God. That's my husband like she kind of. She's pretty much believing it when the letter happens, I spent more for the audience's pursue because look at exactly because he is doing kind of I think he does a decent job at mimicking Matthew Perry's. Like does he pet? I think I absolutely. I remember that a thinking that the first time I watched this even though I remember much he apparently he did actually reach out to Matthew Perry and was like, we don't have any scenes together. But like can I talk about like, mimic, you and stuff? But yes, so he does whatever like the finger thing is on the basketball in this final scene, and she's like what? And it's the same thing. There's another gaffe against got another scout in the audience giving it, by the way doesn't make sense. He's giving fifty one. That he's just he looks at Daniel. Earlier movie dies hair, and he's got a hat on cover up. My ball. Hot pocket spot. Key hides the hot pockets days because at this point Zac Efron is so distraught is she deserves the divorce. I've been a piece of shit, right? What I'm gonna do is disappear forever. As the seventeen year old and literally just get a basketball scholarship and again Tomlin. I'm you have to leave my house. That's fine. You gotta get a job or something. Even I your main worshipers saying. Jim Jones cult is going against this time. Now, he's got this girlfriend who says that he could raid. Her dungeon any plunder. My done any day. Because she says at the end of the party like this is why this is why I don't date parents of my students. This is so awkward we can't go out. So the basketball game she fucking shows. He shows up like dressed like a wizar- doing one of those like, this is me. This is who I am wearing fake fuck and L fears right now because he's wearing a cloak like Gandalf, the grey in the two towers that's not possible because Gandalf the grey would died in fellow. Came back as Gandalf the white. And it's like we are going to pound. You just knew the difference. Drink end of the grand and up the white. We are going to pound down and big s what now that I'm having sex. You have to leave my house. Yeah. Hill. And then it's just I mean, this is this is the last scene of the movie, basically is that the basketball. Of course, he in the stands this time. He just decided dead the whole time. That would be great. This is the other place. But like he gets off the cord and then like he starts transforming back into Matthew Perry and it right? Like when in in the film moon-walker with Michael Jackson what he starts to turn into a car. The shadow. It's like this weird trade body or transformation American where we'll. And his face is getting longer. Could I be any more grotesque starts inflating? Right knotted up and back. It's actually like a his skin rips off. But then there's other Matthew Perry skin underneath it. And he just sheds. This whole Zach Ephron skin Zach on hand, and it rips open, and it's a Matthew berry handling with the wedding band back. And she's just like, Leslie man is so unimpressed with the magic that it's so fucking ridiculous issue. Okay. When that she's just like weird. Okay. She says weird. That's it. It's fire. It's fire up to do here. Oh, and you apologized for that stuff. Okay. Then we also shit. I should've fucked that seventeen year olds. Yeah. Totally would have been totally fine. Guess what? Fucking. That's not going to be no picnic. I still don't understand how we grew two feet. I don't get it. I really strange, and they're just he's she's just like he's like, you're the best thing that ever happened to me. And I've learned my lesson. What a great guy I've learned not to do anything differently except for maybe a little like an asshole take ten give this guy one more fucking down week. And he's gonna never married. That's not for us to say, man. I guess that's the credits. It that's for seventeen again too. And we get a big fat v. End dude now is pretty dumb, that's bad. And then you get a stinger seeing that actually shouldn't be a stinger because it completes the movie. Wait, there's a stinger seen again the end after the end literally after the end credits. It's the end a little bit of credits. And then we immediately this been hired to be the basketball code now. I missed. Because they make Jim Gaskin makes reference in the middle of the movie that like, yes. His last year is the coach or whatever. So. Yeah, it's like their lives are going. Okay. Matthew Perry's happy at his new job basketball movie says the end it's over, and I don't understand like why can't you just have that before the before the end such an awkward tacked on scene where he interrupts Tom linen Moore hardened having sex? Oh, right. Peter bed having sex. They're just laying there about to do something. I think they just did it do, and they just did the deed, the space deed, and the gag is like oh get this fucking guy Atta here, right? Well, everything worked out for me, like even Moore Walters or hardens the magic toil Murray watching all of us right now is he is he kind of basically it's over pretty fucking. I think he's watching ICU and you're sleeping. No, one euro weak little bubble boy around severe for Moore harden. It's probably Elaine Stritch. I'm drunk. I mean, if you wanna fuck this. Yes is whatever day on the job. He's excited the basketball coach, that's fantastic. That's it end of the movie. Sure. Seventeen again, anybody recommended Luna? No, it's quickish one. It's it's pretty close to a hangover movie. I guess because it's so innocuous mostly. But like, it's just it's totally forgettable for all the right reasons because you should forget this movie. Yeah. I mean, I I really don't like this movie. I'm really don't like it because the whole point of something like this like he has still like like everything he thinks is right is right at the end. Like, yes. Like, he's not unpopular other than from stand beating them up other than that everybody kinda likes him and do actual culture clash of oh these kids today. That would just make it so much worse, though, dictating what music they listen to you. You've never seen back to the future or whatever. There's no slobs. Versus snobs. There's other ways this could have gone like he doesn't like you would think like at the beginning. He was going to make friends with the outsider kids in gym class. And that does happy. He's just a popular kid is just don't fucking get it. So you had no no for me. Yeah. I'm also not gonna recommended, but I do think like there's some funny moments. I think Tom Lennon's pretty funny. I mean, not I mean, some of these materials pretty, yeah. Africans funny, and it's got its moments and yes, Zac, Ron is a revelation. But overall, I found this movie to be like a. Detrimental detrimental to society. Yes. To society on the home with that. I don't know. I guess I'm just getting soft in my old age. I recommend this movie. I laughed all the way through it. I'm never gonna like actively tune in again, I think it would be kind of a fine. Like, you're hung over and free form somehow comes on your television there. I don't know it is movie. It's a movie that I laughed enough. All the way through that calls itself. A comedy at the end of the day. It's like we'll I'm laughing. So they're sure, you know, I don't know whatever, maybe I'm just blind Zach Ephron, he so fuck and handsome. Hugh. And so handsome gets better. Look at every week. I know now he's gonna play the most handsome serial killer of all Ted. We love Ted. We want dead. We want dead that is seventeen again directed by Burs steers. If you want more we hit movies, check out. Our patriot patriot dot com slash we hate movies. Yeah. It's death wish twenty eighteen ally Roth film yolks, and if you are listening to this the week it comes out, you should check us out. Check out our tour tab on the podcast dot com because we still have shows DC Philly and New York this week. That's nNcholas cage movies all the time. That's right. Some tickets still able to some of those shows definitely check it out. And specifically I mean, if you're listening to the day comes out of the afternoon or morning that it comes out DC. We'll see you tonight at the DC improv that'd be but as always the we hate movies train keeps rolling on. What's the next movie town? We're going to Steve another supernatural being fucking with teenagers. It's final destination. Oh, man. Tony Todd is death himself would win Tony Todd or Brian Doyle Murray from this Tatas, death or Brian Doyle Murray is this weird. God total. Oh, what really? I mean. He could. Let's say let's say Brian Doyle Murray than takes. Tony Todd makes him seventeen. And now, he's just a more powerful death deity. Death. That's a comic teen death. I love teen. Kevin come on anyway. And who's winning? I would say probably Tony. So until next week when Tony Todd crashes a plane introduce Stephen Akers cabin Eric Cisco, take it easy. That was a hate gum podcast.

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"Really upset and this before the world went ballistic about how you know about police brutality. And things like that. Yeah okay. But i think overall it was still like a great movie to watch and those that have you know kind of dark and twisted sense of humor so anyway. That's what my new modern holiday favorites. I've seen it probably three times this month. Already that's that's how much i like that movie. I like office. Christmas party a lot. I've only seen the night before one or two times but I get a kick out of it i think. That south. Rogaine can you can make comedy out of just about anything and we saw it again. You know with a harold and kumar. Three d christmas special die. Hard is the one that always gets argued on the interwebs Do you have a stance on diehard is versus. Is not a christmas movie while say this okay. The movie originally came out in the summer of nineteen eighty eight say. Nobody ever give thought of the christmas movie. Even though it's set at christmas time. So i think because of that now of course with home media and streaming and all that and you want to move in every want if the christmas movie now i'll take that a step further. You could say the same thing about two different franchises. There's a games bond movie. The one movie that starred that george lazenby the one where he gets married that takes place during christmas. You could say. That's a christmas movie and the movie The name of the film is called on her majesty's secret service and the other movie which wasn't very good for star. Trek fans was star. Trek generations The movie that starred Of course the next generation cast but also had william shatner in it and his final appearance as captain kirk. There's a christmas scene in that movie too. So that's a christmas movie. So i think anything seen justifies a christmas movie. But i think that. If it's thematic of christmas throughout which dardis i it the score is christmas music. The soundtrack is christmas music. The plot of the movie is dependent on everybody being at a christmas party and the converse argument to this. Is that other than you know. The first ten minutes in the last ten minutes of it's a wonderful life being you know being centered around christmas. It's not it's almost not a christmas movie Yeah but i'll i'll accept the argument on the on the basis of the fact that you said it's still themed around christmas when you when you consider all that it's a wonderful. Life is still the quintessential christmas movie based on on the whole. But it's almost the same concept discouraged. Right it's still kind of like what would happen to georgia. His life had been different and all that and it definitely plays out like a modern baker christmas. Carol adaptation of a christmas carol. Do you like the most if you've seen any or multiple ones Well i you know it's funny. I've seen. It's a wonderful life. But i don't have a bit of a memory now screwed same thing i both scrooge and die hard. I saw in the theaters. I was in my young teen years when those movies came out. And so i vividly remember screwed is great movie. I think it's it's it's one of those great modern day. Christmas classics also definitely put that on. My list of must see movies during christmas time. I can appreciate that. Here's a movie. I like to watch your route and it gets better every time i see it and i don't know if it's just his style i and i would say it's very nearly not a christmas movie. And that would be trading places with dan. Aykroyd and eddie murphy. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I wouldn't think that love that movie. The most of any time i valued to with somebody better dollar. That's i've got buddies. I grew up with that At the beginning of the two thousand decade They made a bat for one dollar. And i mean we never before social media and everything and we never heard the end of it about this one dollar bet and it was the One guy you know after the indians lost in ninety five and ninety seven had been to the playoffs in ninety six ninety. Eight ninety nine and While we know about two thousand two thousand one at that point but They better dollar at the end of that decade The collection method was discussed thoroughly on social media. And i think that it ended up being a radio. Flyer wagon with With with two rolls of pennies wield over to the to the winners house from from the loser. It was a difficult. Pay up that because that only the sky watched the indians not achieve a world championship in ten years. But he lost his dollar bet. That was just so much more than the value of one hundred pennies That got you know. Yeah i. I don't really think of trading places as much of a christmas movie but i know that with character you know whereas the santa suit and all that so yeah i but see to me. You almost make the same argument about trading places that you can't have a cirque generations part of set around christmas but it's not really as christmas themed as at the end of movies. You mentioned how whole lows awkward. That's definitely christmas movie. Absolutely yes and. I think that you'll even go up against bad. Santa ads the terrorist diehard. I think that you have your most sadistic got christmas movie character. And you'll outside of the santa's sleigh and and things like that but You know that kid did not have to to all of the things that he did to. Joe patchy and daniel stern in that movie but You know i. It played well. It played wallet off to make a sequel. That was popular and several schools. That weren't quite as popular right. But yeah definitely Bob from a more violent version of three stooges comedy for sure So we said we. We discuss scourged discussed that. Santa home alone hufbauer The national lampoon's vacation franchise with christmas vacation. Very quotable movie there. You know it's funny. I've never actually seen that particular vacation film. I'll start to finish the movie. I remember from the vacation. Franchise the best were the original vacation and a european vacation. And i love european vacation. That movie with hilarious hard task for me. I can of the rest of them. I can watch the vegas vacation which was probably the probably universally recognized as the worst between vacation european vacation christmas vacation. Of course Vegas vacation not counting the the rebooted one with ed helms and christina applegate but It's tougher be watched those movies. Because i'm adult adult now and i remember enjoying them as a as a child at chevy chase in the christmas vacation movie in particular is just such a jerk. You'll brian doyle murray blazes boss and his a jerk to everyone at the office except brian. Doyle murray whose rear end he's kissing and then they they kind of shoehorn. Randy quaid's cousin eddie. Character in there. And you see all the memes you know that the know the crapper is full. And you know it's it's not a bad movie. I don't like it as much as some of the other people do. But i liked die hard. I don't know if you don't consider your christmas movie. I think that my favorite christmas movie is probably something along the lines of either a christmas story or miracle on thirty fourth street nw okay. Yeah they're not miracle on thirty fourth street. It's one of those classics by the way. I have to mention it just to show you how old we're getting The sexy the makeup counter girl or the lingerie girl. Remember the in the department store in christmas vacation. Sixty five years old now. Oh yeah oh yeah. Well you know i. I mean all those eighties teen stars. They're either old or had. Fortunately they're gonna like the blonde from can't buy me love with patrick dempsey. City peterson was character's name in the movie and he died probably four or five years ago in her early fifties. If even that no he wasn't even that you'll look forty seven. You know what i need to do. Is i need to go back and watch these movies chart you know who's doing what in the present tense. 'cause you know i can watch a movie like rad. Ever see that movie It was like bmx. Prove around nine. Eighty six or eighty seven. I remember it. I never saw it. But i remember the film. Yes lorie laughlin is actually the love interest in that movie at deal. Now she's She's doing time or if she's awaiting sentencing or if she's going to get that One day house arrest. I can't remember got it at this point but oh it was it. Was tony larussa. Tell you got one day of house arrest during the middle of a pandemic when most places are under stay at home orders. Anyway you know what a what a joke. Our justice system can be for the rich and privileged. Oh yeah definitely definitely report. Forget there's no real way to be. Well i can think of transition this a little bit because it has to do with the holidays. I just started smoking again. Which is kind of an odd thing because nobody smokes pipes except for like middle aged white guys with beards. Yeah yeah i mean don't you. Aren't you obligated by proclamation. That when you like that type that you have to read the night before christmas to a roomful of children. I don't think about that. But i definitely thought for sure that i need to have this big this big like you know scruffy looking beer. That probably looks. Like i haven't watched it in like a week and maybe have like you know like a haven for flies. But that's you a bad in your forties to take up. Pipe smoking all of a sudden. Because i took it up. When i was seventeen years old and san francisco and used to go to this place called sherlock haven. I just. I think you know what there was. There's that scene dead poet's society where all the students go to the cave and they're smoking their pipes and that got me inspired. I was like well. They were pretty cool smart. I try and it's actually. There's actually some unique history with the behind smoke a pipe and there's a lot of work involved you know it's not like just lighting up a cigarette or even a cigar in pipe. You have to like tampa thing down. You gotta push the tobacco down after. You've gotta run a pipe clear through it to keep thirty six states. Were that tobacco you speak of is not not on the right side of the law. Maybe the california's not one of them. However throat you gotta wrap this thing up he's ryan. I'm jeff foul territory. At sports overnight. 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My catching me. You're listening to ferrall territory aback. Everyone hope everybody is really for the holidays as for me. I'm all set. But i'm at the mercy of the united states. Postal service. here one thing coming to me included Sausages from a very specific deli in cleveland. that My father said to be using the priority mail service on december tenth Here we are twelve days later and that priority mail currently is not a priority for our good friends at the postal service but all that said happy holidays. Everybody that's the least of anybody's problems including mine. It's just stuff it'll get here or won't and it won't be the end of the world. I wanna thank scott our producer on the other side of the glass in san francisco for producing yet another great show for us. At of course by guest. Every tuesday riley on air ryan. Let me ask you about your readiness for the holiday. Got about seventy two hours before the holidays actually begins. Are you ready for it. So i'm definitely ready for it. I i lucked out. I usually get an update from work. Day job on thursday. Which happens to be christmas eve and of course christmas. I'm off so i get those two days off so i'm definitely and Yeah bring out the eggnog and whiskey. And let's let's bring it on. Eggnog in brandy eggnog in southern comfort you don't want to drink the stuff year round. That's why they really don't tend to sell it year round. But i'm a big fan of eggnog. I even meet some homemade Some of the homemade variety. When we had our christmas in july party back in of course the month of july coming up on thursday More coming up on wednesday more nba basketball and another foul territory at ten pm. Pacific types of for scott on the other side of the glass for generous for riley on. I'm jeff rich. The spent foul territory on sports overnight. America now stands for sports community next hour on the sports byline broadcast net worth then where the rubber always meets the road drink. Actually i'm not even sure what that means. Speed radio network life hot. Dental news feeds dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's the public service daily newscasts several the twenty third twenty twenty. Mike clifford liberal leaders across the us hope to see policy changes under the incoming biden administration. We get some perspective. Minnesota and our mike moment in the past few years unions have sounded the alarm about certain actions from the trump white house. Who a move by the national labor relations board. Dan mauer with the communications workers of america. Says there's been strong resistance to organized labor trump's. Nlrb really used every tool at its disposal to stop workers from organizing and made it easier for companies to delay or gerrymander elections when workers wanted to organize despite these concerns trump retained blue-collar support by touting his approach to trade deals mauer says joe biden ran a pro worker campaign by supporting proposals. Like the protecting the right to organize act which penalizes companies for labour organizing in minnesota union members account for nearly fourteen percent of wage and salaried workers the cwa says labor groups also want to see osha standards reworked noting that current policies have left front line workers unsafe during the pandemic nationwide union membership has declined by nearly twenty percents of the early nineteen eighties. The new york times calls it and audacious pre-christmas round of pardons president trump granted clemency tuesday to two people convicted in these special counsels russia inquiry for blackwater guards convicted in connection with the killing of iraqi civilians and three corrupt former republican members of the congress. The times knows. It was a remarkable assertion of pardon power by a president who has disputed his loss in the election and might be only the start of more to come in the final weeks before he leaves office january. Twenty congress has passed a new stimulus package. It'll provide most texas residents with an extra six hundred bucks but that may not go for for families struggling with food security and pandemic related mental health issues a new report from the annie e. casey foundation shows. Texas has the worst rates in the country for health insurance coverage both for children and adults. Amy nop nor buddhists with the group every taksin says that's due to public policy choices at texas lawmakers could address in the next legislative session. Texas is one of the few states that elected not to expand medicaid. And if they were to do so we estimate an additional two point. Two million uninsured texas adult would be covered. And you know when parents are covered. Their children are more likely to be cupboards From two thousand to twenty ten texas accounted for half of the us child population growth. I'm rose from the report. Makes multiple recommendations including distributing filled with racial equity in mind. Also that covert. Vaccinations should be free of charge. This is p. ns during the holiday season and into the new year many people make contributions. But there's another way to help the community we cover from the covid nineteen pandemic without spending a dime groups that work for social justice. Say you can make a difference by choosing a financial institution based on the causes they support ebony perkins with self help credit union explains there is power in where you put your money placing your money with financial institutions that are making a difference in communities that are specifically hurting right. Now that's also a form of giving in. that should not be overlooked. She adds one goal of what are known. As community development. Credit unions is to provide affordable financial services that help generate economic growth for communities that might otherwise be overlooked by traditional banks perkins notes. Self-help credit union makes home and consumer loans where other financial institutions often hesitate and focus on low income minority and rural communities. They also offer certificates of deposit that support women and other underserved borrowers. I'm nadia ramleh. Gone and the holidays are hard for many folks this year because of the pandemic especially for people who live in long term care facilities. Here's our taken off. Aarp suggestions for how families can make the season special relatives who are residents of these homes. Joyce demand with aarp oregon says the first tip is to ask the person what they would like to do to celebrate the holidays at special meal or holiday crafts. They would love to do or just spending time on the phone or with a video. Conference call dimond says it's important to make celebrations intergenerational because cove in nineteen cases arising in person visits are still limited or suspended at most facilities in oregon and the caution is warranted. Although long-term care residents make up a small portion of the population. They account for nearly half of the state's cove in nineteen deaths and finally know better. Do better be better mary. Sherman tells us that's the message violence prevention advocates or hoping catches on among young men and boys in ohio. I knew social media campaign from the ohio. Men's action network is working toward establishing healthier definitions of masculinity and norm surrounding gender based violence. Glenn harris network explains it starts with an understanding that simple biases can escalate violence by the happen out of nowhere. It happens on a pyramid. Starting at the very lowest rung are examples of sexist jokes racist jokes different bias comment and things against marginalized populations harris. Says they're teaching them. That they have an important role to play in preventing violence in their homes. This is by clifford. Four public news service member illustre supported or on great radio stations across the nation and online at public news service dot. Org because no one ever said life is fair. Here's foul territory with jefferson. Jen on sports overnight america. Good evening everyone. Welcome into the party. Is jeff rich league solo from phoenix arizona. But frankly not i've got ryan leong hanging out Standing by ready to join me from san francisco california and this was a night that we welcomed the nba back after his long seventy one day. Layoff when the lakers were crowned champions in the orlando volvo. They were back at it as the home team facing the in. Town arena made clippers and There was a game they knew going in was a game that the clippers wanted to win. More than the lakers lakers already chanting prove december. Twenty seconds clippers have a lot through the o. Revenge story if you will this season. Warriors are just trying to make their way back. They were in brooklyn. Taking on the kevin durant led for the first time brooklyn nets and brooklyn kim advertised at least in the first part of the game but without further ado let me bring ryan the on from san francisco ryan. How're you doing tonight. Hey jeff good to be with you as always and yeah my evenings going. Well how about your. I can't complain at a little Korean barbecue in scottsdale. And you're on the air talking sports As i usually tend to do. And you. And i are going to go all around. We're talking a little bit of serious sports stuff and then you know we have ridiculous. 'cause it's late night and we gets down like that. I'm jealous yet korean barbecue. I had that with a good buddy of mine. My good friend john But we can't do that right now. Because we're in like shelter in place. lockdown in san francisco so no no dining anywhere. Everything's takeout. well. I'll tell you what it was. The recommendation of my buddies zuber driver in las vegas last weekend that said hey you know you're in this part of town. You gotta check out. This place eight Korean barbecue in las vegas came as advertised. It was really good. Had it was so good in fact that we couldn't wait that wait to get back to arizona and try it out so we've got football. We've got basketball. We've got christmas themes going on. We've got bowl games a whole lot of time. Not a lot of time to do it. He's ryan i'm just. This is paul territory at sports overnight. America this sports live broadcast that work. It will be right back. This is sports overnight america. The number one gift in this stressful year relax station from home medics now at up to thirty percent of soothing stress for over thirty five years medics is the top home assange products brand with gifts for every aching muscle on your list with select items up to thirty percent off and free shipping on orders over fifty dollars. Holiday supplies won't last shop now at. Hbo med ics dot com. The perfectly relaxing perfectly giftable gift is at home. Medics dot com and major retailers everywhere. It's time to play. Homage brought to you by your polluted from binging on cookies. 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County buddy welcome back into the party Just a couple of days before the very popular. Christmas holiday an almost. Especially when we ryan. Leon with us on tuesdays our we've been bringing it back with a little bit of christmas music reminder buddy that you can listen live to the show at ten. Pm pacific time as gen would say specifically in the pacific time zone. Where on at ten pm. It's eleven mountain midnight central and of course one am in the east. We appreciate you staying with us. You got to watch a little bit of late night basketball if you down for that kind of thing. La versus la the la clippers. Got out to a hot start. I mean they lead like it was like the first game and you know. The the clippers led something like forty two twenty after one quarter of play and it only took a two point. Lead into the locker room at halftime. But like i said earlier lakers have nothing to play for. The clippers are always playing with a chip on their shoulder. Being little brother in los angeles the early. But it's not about being a little brother. It's about the early playoff exit. And then couple that. With the fact that lebron james and anthony davis got it done not even on the other side of town on the other in the dressing room at the staples center so Clippers win absolutely nothing but save a little face. I guess with the opening night win and then the warriors are a far cry from the twenty eight team that swept the nba finals and they went out to brooklyn and ryan Not a very impressive effort from the first look at the two thousand twenty two thousand twenty one golden state warriors. No not at all. I was pretty brutal. I mean i didn't even watch that carefully working on my day. Job so I was watching think almost up to about half time before it was time for me to leave and it was at that point it was already game was already over. I mean it just. you know. Curry didn't shoot. Well i think it was like seven of twenty one from the field and Their rookie draft pick games wise when he played pretty well. But that it was it was a disaster for the warriors. I mean it's going to be a long play if they continue to play like that. Ed you're wiggins will eventually adjust to this system by His debut with the warriors did not go well either. He's played some games before right. But i mean that but for this. The tv with brutal. I mean he just he couldn't he couldn't You know hit water out of a out of a boat right. He was making his day. Took place midseason last year of. Yes but you. Number one overall draft pick kind of forgotton in the aftermath of the kevin love trade. And then you go to minnesota and you don't unless they're in the playoffs which hasn't they haven't gone deep in the playoffs for a really long time. You're not gonna hear a lot about the what's going on with the minnesota timberwolves but now wiggins is under the microscope of for a that still believes they have enough of their core. And you can correct me. If i'm wrong on this. But enough their core to make another run at it lakers in the conference. Be damned. oh you mean as far as like with the warriors you mean yeah they have given up. They're on the rebuild. This they they. They still believe they've got asses to get a dog right. I don't know here's the thing me last year. The reason i come look confused by your question. I mean the world had a really bad year last year. They they only had fifteen wins. I think there are fifteen and fifty. It's the worst record they've ever had. I mean albeit. It was a shortened season but I think the worst previously. They're they're willis to win. Total seventeen wins. Which is one of the years. I covered The warriors are team. Right now. I think they're still. It's going to take them all year and then and then some to to cope with the loss of klay thompson for a second time. I mean i had the acl. and then. I had this other achilles tear now and so It's really gotta be. It's just it's just a tough thing because Klay thompson is so well. Like i mean he's he's not your typical basketball player. First of all. I mean he's the kind of guy that's kind of like a surfer. Dude i don't know how much buddy smokes but i'm sure i'm sure he partake in some herbal substances. Let's put it that way you ever seen the videos in. It was like a local news. Report in new york. Talking about the scaffolding. The interviewed him just like he was a random person on the street right. I did see that. Yes in the kind of like a random guy i mean. He's so he's just a down to earth and i i happen to go to an autograph signing where he was there at at a A downtown clothing store and that was the famous or infamous time. Where fan gave them a toaster oven to sign. He signed a toaster oven. And get the hot streak after that and he was known for. That's one of the things you've known for signing this toaster oven He's just a really cool guy. And i think a lot of people as much steph curry as the face of the franchise in so many ways. klay thompson is to. I mean just you know he's had a great game restore the thirty seven points in one quarter any scores. Sixty points and three quarters on on like eleven dribbles. I mean he's he's he's had some other worldly type games when he's played and played it his best so just to not have them out there. He's such a huge part of the The energy of what you think of when you think of the warriors and draymond green the other and draymond didn't play either. He had some kind of injury that kept him out. So you know you take away those guys for sure and again just the just the fact that this is the kind of re rebuild. You're right they're they're not gonna want to admit that but they aren't to rebuild. I mean guy. Air cosco playing a power forward in place of dream on. And he's a nice guy and i think he's a good player but he's not the kinda guy that's going to be much of a game changer. And so if he ended up getting the bulk of the minutes like he did last year. I think you're going to see another team. That's gonna probably get about twenty. Something wins a season which is not enough to do. What do anything really jammed i. I watched a little pascal on tuesday. Night you know. And he's a role player and that role isn't to lead the team or even fill the shoes of Draymond green so You know we'll we'll see how that we'll keep an eye on that situation but you know here's my train of thought you'll with the warriors they have organizational stability even if they haven't been able to keep all the players on their roster or keep all the players on their roster healthy but i don't think that there's any worse case scenario that leads to crazy things happening like meyers being out or talk about moving on from steve kerr or making some kind of crazy trade involving Clay or dream. I think the roster stays intact. I think that the only thing that happens with the warriors not winning is that they don't win and they don't get to reach that bar. That's ridiculously high that they set for themselves over the last over the course of the last half decade. Maybe probably lost on a lot of people outside of the bay area. I'm there's a local sports talk show I'm not gonna mention her name so we don't do that on the show but anyway There show station based out of san francisco and they and they feel. And i i agree with this to an extent that maybe the warriors are kind of a cursed franchise again now now that they decided to move to san francisco. I mean they ended up leaving oracle slash oakland arena. They moved to chase center Chase centers is somewhat somewhat antiseptic building. That's very nice. Got all the amenities but it has no character the warriors haven't been able to Play very well there Their fans are paying a lot of money. The fans that of them got this place and they didn't wanna come From oakland san francisco. Oakland never got a fair shake because the warriors never once in their franchise's history ever wore jersey oakland on it now they have on that that kind of reminisces back to the we believe era which is really funny because outside of that we believe you're and the following season in two thousand seventeen thousand. Eight teams sucked. There's no other way to put it. They sucked in fact. Twitter twitter quick. He's got an account called this day and suck and all he does is he tweets about the warriors really bad history before they got good. So we're talking. You know the whole we believe. Era even and i think he tweets up all the way till maybe about twenty eleven so he just goes to warriors history and just keeps tweeting dates in warriors history. That people should forget about except the real by hearts. Oh it's like most of them. How would you rank the relocation of the three san francisco between the warriors going to san francisco and the giants in going further into san francisco proper and the niners going all the way out of at one you three well. Then i would totally rank. Of course the giants number one. I mean the giants Like you said you're right. They ended up going kind of going back to their roots. The original franchise Rather original home for the giants was this minor. League ballpark called seals stadium which is located at sixteenth and bryant which is probably about a mile away from where the giants ballpark is. Now and so. It's pretty close. And in fact sixteenth and bryant is about. it's not too far away from where the warriors play chase center. It's in the same street. The warriors happened to be on third and sixteenth to give you an idea geographically where that is so if i had to rank them the giants won warriors to the niners. I mean they don't d- of course that makes them third place. But in my opinion they don't even count 'cause they're not even in san francisco or anywhere near san francisco. They play eight. Miles away from san jose. Dad's a little ridiculous ryan on the other side. I'm jeff bridges foul territory on sports overnight. America will be right back point nine to go in. The walls is donald. You're listening to foul territory. This is sports overnight. America breath it's not just a little dobson because he also the steak she's candy apple. Ski will kathmandu's attention timeshare owners. This is an urgent consumer or from timeshare exit hotline company specializing in helping consumers legally get out of their expensive timeshare contracts. We're offering you a way to legally get rid of your timeshare. 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We had the start of nba basketball. It seems like if didn't just end. We are back at it again. this season. We have a steve. Nash coach nats warriors and they won one thousand five hundred ninety nine the defending champion. La lakers lost to the clippers. One sixteen to one zero nine. We had to bowl games We had to lane fall to nevada. Thirty to twenty seven and the idaho potato bowl and the bleaker record bowl brought us number sixteen. Byu versus an unranked ucf. Byu goes on to win. Forty nine to twenty three and that is a wrap on all of the scores up. Jeff very walked back into foul territory. I'd sports overnight america. Go ahead and give us a follow on social media. You just heard the voice of gender rich. She's always keeping score on instagram. Shows at general. Rich twitter The collective whole of us rich is at what's up riches instagram twitter and facebook. Yours truly can be found at talks on twitter. Instagram facebook and there is a jeffords talks dot com. Where you can archives of all the shows that we do if the shows on a little bit late for you again ten. Pm pacific time. One am in the east Monday through thursday. Unless you're on the am side. It's tuesday through friday. You gotta do the math to figure that stuff out on. Joined this hour by riley on and ryan. We got through most of these sports topics that i had There's one other thing of note We're going to just kind of skim over the fact that The niners on josh rosen. Who was a top ten. Pick of the cardinals just a couple of years ago but that situation pretty dire. I know that when they were in sound any way you were. More of a raiders. Guy than a niner's guy animates i. I have a big niners guy this coming saturday as they take on. The was the miami dolphins with the niners. Picking on the cardinals. I met the raiders raiders to take it on the dolphins correct is right. Yeah the niners cardinals. Game is huge by a huge for the cardinals with the niners on the outside looking at the playoff race will. Yeah the niners are they're limited. They're done. But i think it's gonna be funny that they're playing both the same stadium. Of course this is a true cardinals home game for them and the niners being the secondary tenants again. This is just really funny. I just find that the whole situation you know. I don't find kobe funny. But i find what's happened in some ways as as a byproduct of kobe to rather amusing in the fact that the forty niners vagabond team Th the hobos with the other what do you call it putting the clothes on the stick. You know that type of thing. I mean it's just it just because the the the raptors have to do it all year long but the toronto blue chips had doing all all all sixty games of this major league baseball season. Plus the postseason right and then you go way way back years ago. The mantra expos had some problems with on stadium. So the The expos had to play a bunch of games on the road to so not the first time it's happened but it's it's just really embarrassing. And they you know. I i feel bad for the niners. As a as a franchise As far as like with the players have to deal with. Although on the other hand you know again i just find the niners organization. Now they're just. I mean they said not only did it. Band the city of san francisco but all their charitable events. Now they do. The solely focused on the south bay. They don't do. I remember the last time. I saw the forty niners do anything. Charity charity related to the had to do with the city of san francisco itself. So as far as i'm concerned still Making good off the name of the city of san francisco and giving nothing back to the city and return maybe they should be the north fresno north of fresno forty niners. Sure why not act the way. They do where they are right now. It's pretty indicative of that. And like i said there's still people that are niner fans no doubt and fans all over the place but There's just not a real sense. Oil t anymore to to the team to the team that originated in san francisco and played their first game not in the heart of the city. As far as like you know like the giants play but they played their stadium. Originally that the keys are stadium is right in the corner of golden gate park okay loyalty. Dj you've maintained your loyalty to the raiders ad. They went from playing the role of contender to playing the role of spoiler relatively quickly. I'm a little inspired by what i saw from. Marcus mariota say the derek carr is done. It's just that San fr. Jon gruden has if he doesn't have his number one guy at the position but This season you know already more or less a loss. Season for the raiders. Yep typical the raiders. I mean they start. Well you just always find a way to mess up at the end. I mean the year that i recall most most vividly in my mind was in twenty eleven That was a year l. Died and the raiders. Were doing so well. But they lost four of their last five games and they still had a chance but they couldn't beat denver in the regular season finale to go the playoffs and that eventually got hugh jackson fired and hugh jackson mortgage the future i forget. He traded away like I remember who traded away but he ended up getting carson palmer and trae the future to get carson palmer and palmer had some decent games. But that was the beginning of of the raiders. Just another one of their many seasons which they just they just choked and just just messed up. But i don't know what it is raider fans we had this wealthy maybe have to do with the the great the great rate of both the raider colors the beautiful raider rats. You know you just get sucked into this whole like reiter mystique even though there's really not much mystique when you're not very good right. I mean the is usually something that's reserved for like being a good team in the cowboys are carrying that right now. I think everybody joked about that. The niners cowboys game. Hey this this is a great game. If it's nineteen ninety-three yet right. I remember those years. I mean no and those years were great. But the cowboys back then. We're an amazing franchise just had great player after great player on that roster and and carry that all the way through until the late nineties right. But yeah both. I mean in the cowboys are always going to be You know in that same echelon like new york yankees right there just the high profile team no matter how bad they are. That's absolutely right. There's so many teams that you know. There's so many brands in sports. That fit that profile. For longtime that it's notre dame to the point where it's almost had a reverse effect. You know this call. Tom creates this anti-cult culture toward you know that that focuses. Its angst i notre dame and i think that you know this year dirty named deserves the criticism because they aren't one of the top four teams in college football. But they're gonna face that scrutiny if there's even a little bit of a room to to get a jab in and the same applies drew for the cowboys yankees Probably the lakers duke basketball. Which isn't to say that You know these big brands don't deserve it. Because they are often over hyped played. We need hype in sports. That's how we sell the product right. I'll give you a good example. You know how much jackets of the jackets i had into buying. Only because it didn't going to a good price it went down to about fifty dollars. Why can't resist. I had to get it. There's a little tear in the inside lining but it's a perfect jacket and that is alabama so i now have my van wagon college walking about it. But here's what's funny. I covered the national championship in two thousand nineteen. They got whacked by clemson. You would never know that alabama was the number one team. 'cause they got their butts kicked really dad i think the game was pretty close and then clemson scored like i forget what it was like forty points in forty straight points nikita mike fifty six to fourteen and then a year later. The same thing kind of happens clemson against you. Yoga granted clubs at add to go into louisiana play. Lsu were they tend to win all their national championships in that sugarbowl. You know in the superdome. I've i've seen like that. You know i've seen these college football games. We have the best two teams out of one thirty. And you can't get a close game out of it because one is just that much better than two three and four right. But that's but that's what i'm saying. It was so interesting to see this national championship. Game where alabama fans are so spoiled. It's like watching. You know the atlanta braves back in the day. When they were so good that they would they would make the playoffs and he'd still have like lots of open seats because people were just used to the braves. Go into the postseason and the same thing happened at national championship game. Santa clara there were so many fans there that were alabama facet just sitting on their basically sitting on their hands. And this was on. The game was close of course became a blah but alabama football fans. I mean they're just used to winning and again you know no no question. Once again there will be no. You know the perfect record and and you know headed to national championship title and knows what's gonna happen there so spoiled they. They don't know how to lose. I i think it took them about three months to get over. Losing to ohio state in the inaugural college football playoff. You know where where the buckeyes went on. To beat oregon. You know a couple of a week and a couple of days later in the national championship game in arlington texas again. College football Very very unpredictable. I i am going to say this. You know you brought up the braves. I am sure that everybody thinks the ninety three giants for such a remarkable second-place effort they yield them zero postseason games but effectively created division expansion and the expanded playoffs that we have today. I think you know everything happens. For a reason and the reason we went to three divisions and the wildcard to reward a good team that plays in the wrong division is because of those giants that one hundred plus teams. It had nothing to show for it when it was all said and done very true. All right we're going to throw to break. I want to give a shoutout to all of our arm. Forces members of on the american forces network. I'm jeff he's ryan's is fall territory on sports america it's sports byline broadcast network and we'll be right back love. 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And this night will be no exception. we're talk a little christmas movies because we've done christmas music for a while and i know that you're more classic maybe a little more contemporary But i like some of the non traditional christmas movies. The ones that g. rated the ones that aren't for children You know a few to name diehard scrooge d- The wrath crops. You've got horror movies. That come from the christmas john so you could get crazy all over the place but i have a feeling you're gonna go You're gonna go with some of the The traditional classics as we progress. This conversation a few the top three that come to mind for me are certainly you know. It's a wonderful life Charlie brown christmas and one of my favorites. I saw the now twenty years then. We came out bad. Santa okay. that's written down. That are that are a little more dark bad. Moms christmas herald kumar crispus which are just build building off of existing franchises of Misbehavior your fish. Out of water type of things you know especially Especially with the bad moms that you know. Try not to follow any of the motherly norms but bandstand. It was just so perfect. Because i mean billy bob thornton just plays the piece of fecal matter to to a tv. Ad tony cox who You know i. I saw the friday movie Plays off of them really well. And you've got the way. John ritter the late bernie mac in that movie as well I think that one's really well put together. And we get a kick out of it here in arizona because it's phoenix based even though most of the movie was shot in california. Yeah i just think it's funny themed movie and i just like the way it played out and even though it was kind of a cynical film there was still a happy ending to it and and police were really upset and this before the world went ballistic about how you know about police brutality. And things like that. Yeah okay. But i think overall it was still like a great movie to watch and certainly great for those that have You know a kind of a dark and sort of twist at the humor so anyway. That's what my new modern holiday favorites. I've seen it probably three times this month. Already that's that's like that movie. I like office christmas party. a lot. i've only seen the night before one or two times but I get a kick out of it. I think that South rogaine can can make comedy out of just about anything. And we saw it again with harold and kumar three d christmas special die hard is the one that always gets argued on the interwebs. He do you have a stance on diehard is versus. Inada christmas movie while say this okay. The movie originally came out in the summer of nineteen eighty eight say. Nobody ever thought of the christmas movie. Even though it's set at christmas time. So i think because of that now of course with home media and streaming and all that and you want to move and everyone if the christmas movie. Now i'll take that a step further. You can say the same thing about two different franchises. There's a james bond movie. The one movie that starred george lazenby the one where he gets married that takes place during christmas. You could say. That's a christmas movie and the movie. The name of the film is called on her majesty's secret service and the other movie which wasn't very good for star. Trek fans was star. Trek generations The movie that started of course the next generation cast but also had william shatner in it and its final appearance as captain kirk. There's a christmas scene in that movie too. So he could say. That's a christmas movie. So i think anything. Seen justifies a christmas movie but i. I think that if it's thematic of christmas throughout which diehard is. I mean it's i it. The score is christmas music. The soundtrack is christmas music. The plot movie is dependent on everybody being at a christmas party. And and the converse argument to this. Is that other than you know. The first ten minutes in the last ten minutes of it's a wonderful life being you know being centered around christmas. It's it's almost not a christmas movie Yeah but i'll. I'll accept the argument on the on the basis of the fact that you said it's still themed around christmas when you when you consider all that it's a wonderful. Life is still the quintessential christmas movie. That's just based on on the whole but it's almost the same concept screwed right. It's still kind of like what would happen to georgia. Life had been different and all that it definitely plays out like a modern day christmas carol. What adaptation of a christmas carol. You like the most if if you've seen any or multiple ones I you know it's funny. I've seen. It's a wonderful life. But i don't have a vivid memory screwed same thing i both scrooge and die hard. I saw in the theaters. I was in my young teen years when those movies came out. And so i vividly remember screwed is great movie. I think it's one. It's one of those great modern day. Christmas classic also so. I definitely put that on my list of must see movies during christmas time. I can appreciate that i. Here's a movie. I like to watch year round and it gets better. Every time i see it and i don't know if it's just established i and i would say it's very nearly not a christmas movie. And that would be trading places with dan. Aykroyd and eddie murphy. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I think i loved that movie. The most of any time. I that was somebody better dollar. That's a classic that i've got. I've got buddies. I grew up with that At the beginning of the two thousand decade They made a bat for one dollar ad. I mean we never before social media and everything and we never heard the end of it about this one dollar bet and it was the one guy you know after the indians lost in ninety five and ninety seven had been to the playoffs in ninety six ninety eight ninety nine and While we know about two thousand two thousand one at that point but They bet a dollar at the end of that decade The collection method was discussed on social media. And i think that it ended up being a radio. Flyer wagon with With with two rolls of pennies wield over to the to the winners house from from the loser. It was a difficult. Pay up that because that only the sky watch. The indians not achieve world championship in ten years. But he lost his dollar bet. That was just so much more than the value of one hundred pennies Got you know i. I don't really think of trading places as much of a christmas movie. But i know that with character. You know where the santa suit and all that. So yeah i but see see to me. You could almost make the argument about trading places that you can't start corporations part of set around christmas but it's not really as christmas themed as the other move. You mentioned hello loans awkward. That's definitely christmas. Absolutely yes and. I think you'll even going up against bad santa ads the terrorist die hard i think. Did you have your most sadistic got christmas. Movie character outside of the the. Oh santa's sleigh encompass and things like that but you know that kid did not have to to all of the things that he did to joe patchy and daniel stern in that movie but You know i. It played well. It played wallet off to make a sequel. That was popular and several schools. That weren't quite as popular right but yeah definitely Bought from a more violent version of three stooges comedy for sure So we said we. We discuss scourged discussed bad santa home alone How about the national lampoon's vacation franchise with christmas vacation very quotable movie there. you know. it's funny. I've never actually seen that particular vacation film Start to finish the movie. I remember from the vacation. Franchise the best were the original vacation and the european vacation and i love european vacation. That movie with hilarious hard task for me. I can really love the rest of them. I can watch the vegas vacation which was probably the probably universally recognized as the worst between vacation european vacation. christmas vacation. of course Vegas vacation now. Counting the the rebooted one with Ed helms and Christina applegate but It's tough for me to watch those movies because adult adult now. I remember enjoying them. As a as a child. Chevy chase in in the christmas vacation movie in particular is just such a jerk. You'll brian doyle. Murray leases boss and his jerked everyone at the office. Except brian doyle murray whose rear and he's kissing and then they They cannot shoehorn randy. Quaid's cousin eddie character in there. And you see all the memes the you know. The crapper is full. And you know it's it's not a bad movie. I don't like it as much as some of the other people do. But i like die hard. I don't know if you don't consider the christmas movie. I think that my favorite christmas movie is probably something along the lines of either a christmas story or miracle on thirty fourth street okay. Yeah they're not miracle on thirty. Fourth street is one of those classics by the way. A rub is mentioned just to show you. How old were getting The sexy the makeup counter girl or the lingerie girl. Remember in the in the department store in christmas vacation. I think he's sixty five years old now. Oh yeah oh yeah. Well you know i. I mean all those teen stars. They're either old or you know. Unfortunately they're gonna like the blonde from can't buy me love with patrick dempsey city. Peterson was your character's name in the movie and she died probably four or five years ago in her early fifties. If even that no he wasn't even that you like forty seven. You know what i need to do is i need to go back and watch these movies in the chart. You know who's doing what in the present tense. 'cause you know. I can watch a movie like rad. Ever see that movie It was like bmx movie around. Eighty six or eighty seven. I remember it. i never saw it. I remember the film. Yes lorie laughlin is. Actually the love interest in that movie at you know. Now she's She's doing time or if she's awaiting sentencing or if she's going to get that one day house arrest i can't remember who got it at this point but oh it was. It was twenty larussa. Tell you got one day of house arrest during the middle of a pandemic most places one hundred stay at home orders. Anyway What a what a joke. Our justice system can be for the rich and privileged. Yeah definitely definitely report forgetting. There's no real way to. Maybe i can say a transition. This a little bit could have to do with the holidays. I just recently started smoking again. Which is kind of an odd thing. 'cause nobody smokes pipes except for like middle aged white guys with beards. Yeah yeah i mean don't you. Aren't you obligated by proclamation. That when you liked that type that you have to read the night before christmas to a roomful of children. I don't know anything about that. But i definitely thought for sure that i need to have like this big this big. Like you know scruffy looking beer. That probably looks. Like i haven't watched it like a week. And maybe have like you know like a haven for flies but zest you event in your forties to take up. Pipe smoking all of a sudden. Because i took it up. When i was seventeen years old in san francisco and used to go to this place called sherlock haven. I i think you know what there was there that scene in dead poets society. Where all the students go to the cave. And they're smoking their pipes and that got me inspired. I was like well. They were pretty cool. Smart i get this a try and it's actually there's actually some unique history with the behind trying to smoke a pipe and there's a lot of work involved you know. It's not like lighting up a cigarette or even a cigar in pipe. You have to like tampa thing down and you gotta push the tobacco down after you've got to run a pipe clear through it to keep it thirty six states were that tobacco you speak of his dot dot on the right side of the law. Maybe not the california's not one of them. However throughout you a break we got to wrap this thing up. he's ryan. I'm jeff its territory at sports overnight. America elegant back cowboy heartless the situation charging. But you're listening to foul territory. Do you owe ten thousand dollars or more on at least two federal student loans. 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But i let the mercy of the united states postal service. Here one thing coming to me included Some sausages from very specific deli in cleveland that by father said to be using the priority mail service on december tenth Here we are twelve days later and that priority mail apparently is not a priority for our good friends at the postal service but all that said Happy holidays everybody. That's the least of anybody's problems including mine. It's just stuff it'll get here or it won't and it won't be the end of the world. I wanna thank scott our producer on the other side of the glass in san francisco for producing yet another great show for us. And of course by gassed. Every tuesday riley on ryan. Let me ask you about your readiness for the holiday. You got about seventy two hours before the holiday actually begins. Are you ready for it. So i'm definitely ready for it. I i lucked out. I usually get an update from work on my day. Job on thursday which happens to be christmas eve and of course christmas. I'm off so i get those two days off so i'm definitely and Yeah bring out the eggnog and whiskey and let's bring it on. Eggnog and brandy eggnog in southern comfort. You don't want to drink the stuff year round. that's why they really don't tend to sell it year round. But i'm a big fan of eggnog. I'll meet some homemade Some of the homemade variety. When we had our christmas in july party back in of course the month of july Coming up thursday More coming up on wednesday more nba basketball and another foul territory at ten pm pacific types of scott on the other side of the glass for gen rich variety on. I'm jeff rich. The smith territory on sports overnight. America now stay tuned for more sports coming your way. Next hour on the sports byline broadcast network. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network at hartland. Newspeak dot com. 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It and then right after that interesting story you probably know robbie rogers is gonna join us pro soccer player for the la galaxy and the first openly gay man to compete in a major north american pro sports league and played in the mls and has played on the us national olympic team and internationally as well with leeds united in the uk. So we're ready to crank it up talking soccer hour with dominate career. And robbie rogers good to have you with us as we continue across the country and around the world. We've got john america's sports talk show rates dropped to near all time lows at clear paths. Lending rates are as low as one point seven five percent on a thirty year fixed rate mortgage one point nine eight six percent. Apr gog clear path. Lindy eight four. Four eight hundred three two zero five loan officers are standing by clear path lending at eight four. Four eight hundred. Three 205 not available in all states. One point seven five percent rate one point nine. 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Dominic kinnear joins us on sports byline former pro soccer player who won fifty four caps playing for the united states national soccer team. He's also won four. Mls championships as the coach of the san jose earthquakes and also the houston dynamo. When you think about soccer and all the years you've been associated with dominic. I mean what is it that you're stuck with what is it. What is it about the game that always kept. You hooked why i came from the south of playing background ron You know being born in scotland. And i had three other than older sister. It was almost one of those where you did with the people did. And my my bid on the firm. My brothers played because of my father who coached and he just kind of fell in line with that in saying that you know i did not play other sports but the one the one thing but soccer and all kind of kept me motivated and it was the ones that i loved them. More than the most one of the stories that i read was that you were just twelve years old. It was the one thousand nine hundred seventy eight world cup finals. Pick up the story from their dominate. Yeah it was. We were home on a pacific rear back in scotland on a family vacation and nineteen seventy s. Scotland had this big hoopla around it because the coach In all his wisdom decided he thought the scotland was good enough to play in the world cup so and created a lot of a lot of fanfare were sitting in my My aunt Sorry my grandmother's living room and watching scotland play peru and there's probably about maybe fifth year so people in the room watching and he must call had an awful woke up the experience. Kind of got me hooked on it and from then on whenever people ask if i wanted to do i also get special soccer player. People with kind of corny. Because you know soccer back. In those days the seventies early eighties wasn't even close to what it is. Now just going to ask you about the difference in attitude toward the game in europe and other parts of the world as compared to the united states. There really is no comparison back then but can you put into words what that atmosphere is like. What the patriotism for your national team is like. Why it's grown a constant stuff. Stop playing ron. Which is about you. Know about fifteen years ago or so and even even farther back the us game. I think my last game was nineteen ninety. Four maybe ninety five so twenty years now the atmosphere the intensity the fanfare has grown tremendously in the united states You know it's it's hard to explain how much it's growing short period of time. Popsy major league. Soccer has had a huge impact on that as well but I think when you look back ninety nine nineteen ninety when they the world cup dot interested ninety four when they hosted obviously huge bruce american soccer and then from then on you know i think it was two thousand and two They made the quarter-finals which is an incredible achievement. and just it's it's just been getting more popularity. The internet coming along and social media and coverage is everything is just you know getting incredible momentum and i don't see i think you know soccer for sure is here to stay it's just Hopefully one day we can see our country regular world cup. Final wonderful yeah. I remember the nas. L. the north american soccer league and I was up in seattle on television there at that time and i also worked at cbs. And i did the last game for palay When he was with the new york and they played against on july. The fourth against the seattle sounders up there. And i just. I still remember that to this day. And that was back in the mid seventy s at that particular time. Tell me a little bit about the development of young players in europe And the rest of the world as compared to the way we've developed young players in this country because i've always felt that that really soccer by nation takes on the personality of the country. They happen to be playing in mike. Right right about that dominic absolutely wrong. I think when you look at it to you. Know how young age education in america for the most part seems very crucial. You know a very critical and in a child's development were over there you know some of these countries don't have the infrastructure for education and therefore sport is the way out You know you have eight nine year old kids that are not necessarily signing contracts but are joined by joined the hip club and And and that's a tough thing battle we have now while we're signing players at seventeen eighteen years old and just starting to happen in the last little while So we're still. We're still years behind as far as developing players but the gap is closing. You know and i think the mls you have young kids who have who have clubbing identity with wanna play for that team. Instead of maybe saying playing for a team over england or spain. I think they have a good interest in wanting to play for a team side. You know you know. That's only improved now. Michael bradley and clint dempsey coming back. Play major league soccer and let's not forget land and automated and even beckham as far as kind of creating a worldwide identity for major league soccer but for us to really catch up and the development of players selfishly had to get these kids at nine and ten years old game academy obviously provide them with age. So it's not a one way street. Have some of the whole back. On the we're still with away from the elkins and the finances and and sicilia's how much the soccer have to battle in this country. The financial factor. And what i mean by that is. is you. Pick up a newspaper and see that. This baseball player has signed for thirty million a year or this football player. That's not the money that's available when it comes to professional soccer. it's. It's an uphill battle. And i think I really think those two on and offer this league survive and thrive. I think we can't playing paying the players. You know crazy amount of money because of tv contracts aren't there We've never be able to survive media one or two year go bankrupt and even still this day the league in its own way still losing a little bit of money every year so some players are making a good amount of money. Some guys are not I think we need a little bit better balance here As far as closing that gap but as far as filling out millions of every roster almost be financial suicide one of the things incorrectly. If you think. I'm wrong about this dominic that i think has been important in the development of the sport in this country is they're getting their own identity with soccer teams having their own stadiums. Now down in san jose. You know you guys have a brand new beautiful stadium down there i know. Columbus has a stadium. I think kansas city has one as well. The new soccer franchise franchises. That are coming into play as well. in the league are having their own facility as well. It has that been important in developing the sport in this country. huge no i can say coming from. Houston we had a brand new stadium built two years ago and it just it kind of cements your place in the marketplace. As far as the sports franchise you're not renting out of college stadium or nfl stadium where you know the stadiums are maybe keep thousand year going twenty and it doesn't look so well. I think you know tom fisher. And rules wolf cavalry and building. The stadium have definitely some air quakes into the mainstream of of the bay area sports landscape. You know it's wonderful to see if the perfect amount of people you know it's gonna be it's gonna be a great atmosphere and i think now on even looking at it there's really only one or two teams that share the nfl stadium. It just won't be any sale sounders which is fine because they draw up forty six thousand people a game but all the rest of them have their own socks and now which is great. You kinda control your parking revenue your your concession. But it won't take the money maker. You're the right side of the business side of it and then as far as it stands. Does it's a great place to go and hang out and as far as players does aug players they day. It's a recruiting tool as well. Let me ask you about a couple of other criticisms of the sport and that is i think we all know that television is an important aspect of the development of any sports franchise or league and at one time it was said that if you shoot the sport on television too tight you don't get the flow of the game and if you shoot it to wide then you don't see the technique that's involved and also there was some criticism about you know one nil two nil to one not being enough of the attitude of the american sports fan. Yeah i think the american sports fans getting more savvy towards soccer now and they're a little bit more I can forgive school as you never going to get away from a low scoring game unless it rarity where it's a complete blowout. I admit to you get the perfect Feel and rhythm of a game on tv you know it takes thing club close shot and takes the far away. It takes three replays. I think also when you see the replays of of players stays emotions are going through it kind of gives us support for the game. So i think we're getting better in that sense. I think any sport soccer. It's if if you're there live it's much better on t. e. i think as we go now on. There's more you know. More savvy fans More people who are who who are willing to be patient and watch rather than one eight to eight or ten to ten sometimes see the beauty of one nothing or two one game. How important is it going to be to continue develop people that the fans can relate to and landon. Donovan is the perfect example. I've known land since he was a young kid and he'd be here in the studio and we'd be talking about a hurt his frustration which i'll get into a little bit later on about having to go over to europe because when he went over to germany and played it not a particularly good experience for him. But how important is it to have that that player that first of all you can pronounce their name. And second of all you can relate to now it's usually important and and thank goodness for land and all the years spent in major league soccer. That's beyond. I could've played in you wanna to. But his decision to his desire to play american american helped the game grow is one of the reasons why you and are having this conversation. One of the reasons why we have the own deep pockets willing gender stadiums So it's important. And i've always hoped selfishly that the players would stay here. It's always better for the game. I think you understand their desire to go overseas. The money's there exposure competition is always a little bit better for the growth of our game. We do meet our home stars. That's why i was so great to see josie outdoor bradley. Clint dempsey to come back. And i can howard decided to come back. I think he added a great a great name that list but along the way land and many things for the sleep and a great player. Great spokesperson and You know a sad to see him go on his retirement. But i think along the way of kind of taping dominicana near is with us on sports byline the coach of the san jose earthquakes and he has won four. Mls championships as a coach. And of course Played a number of years is a pro soccer player and played for the united states. National team fifty four caps. We continue across the country and around the world on sports byline. Hello and welcome back to the ronnie do each tax program on the line is paul from california. Hi paul what's your tax problem today. Hierarchy love your show. listen. 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Career is with us on sports byline. We're talking about soccer. Not only around the world but also in this country as well. I alluded to landon donovan. Going over to europe and playing in germany and really didn't get the playing time that he felt he needed in order to get better and for longtime dominic was said that if american players were going to get better and become world class players that they were going to have to go up against better competition and they go somewhere else other than the united states. Is that out the door now. As far as the thinking. No not completely out the door. Ron i still think people look at it. Let's be honest When you watch. Tv on a saturday morning. The english premier league is mentally shoved in your face. And it's a great package. It's a great name. It's got great stars. So i think you know if you're a real competitor. Sometimes you want breaking the best makes hopping on the airplane going overseas. I think the doors closing with some other young players along the way we're going careers in europe in wanting to stay here up. You're seeing some guys that good age have been in europe for going. Their european countries are coming back to mls career. So i think that gap is closing. It's up to each and every individual. But what they wanna do. Sometimes it's family or whatever else but i think it's it's been longer than ninety percent united. Because you wanna head enough. I think that is the numbers. Come back coach them. Which makes us better. I'm gonna use a football analogy here to make the point. And that is I've often said that the pittsburgh steelers when they were winning their for. Nfl championships took on the personality of pittsburgh. And i think everybody knows that. That's blue collar kind of steel type of town and i'm just wondering whether the same thing can be said about soccer in this country. Does it take on the personality of this country. I mean we're more of a flamboyant attack type of attitude in this country And are we getting to that point. What what is the you know. The i guess personality of american soccer today the person in my opinion ron i. It's grinders. it's hard workers. Great attitude You know the never give up at you. Know never never say die attitude you go back to land on him and score goldman years ago and the world cup in the dying minutes of the game. that for me kind of american addity always the best in the world. That's now that you need that to the brazilian argentinean to play a little more flair than most But the one thing. I love about the americans when they play the other team. Those for a game not just for five minutes or pretending for the entire time and we are getting a little better more techniques but the best thing about the heart. It's on the players and they step on the field. How far away are we from reaching a final in the world cup. That's that's i. Don't think a anybody can answer on You know when you think about. Spain won their first world cup. I think two cups ago so a great nation like that who's produce so many great players that portugal has yet to win a world cup so I still think along the way. You're always going to see argentina. Brazil germany's always going to be there. Just who the heck knows what. They're feeding their kids there. But it's almost like nuts and bolts for breakfast a fighting machines and and you know you have your surprises. Long-delayed of columbia is getting better times. They're all pretty consistent so for us. I think you know get out of the group was always a big plus especially this last world cup but it was considered the group of death after the americans come out of the huge achievement year in a luck along the way with the luck of the draw so it could be in the next world cup. Cycling could be years or now. That's all different east. One as you know. Tournaments are so hard to predict but the duke north carolina. Things like that are all kinds of air or again. And it's so similar world cup of germany argentinians brazilians. My girlfriend's would tell me that playing in a pga tournament was a lot different than playing in a masters or us open. And i know what they were talking about. We're talking about the big four when it comes to gough tell me a little bit because you won fifty four caps playing for the us national soccer team. Tell me about the difference between just another match and one playing for your country playing in the world cup. Oh you can't be. I've ever played a world cup. So i can't speak of it but For me that's the best memory for me was thinking ninety two mile high stadium denver so back away ninety two mile hike kind going together. We we played scotland. The country of my birth and for that game the The coach of the team the time for notes. Novic decide his captain. You know so It was it was really. You know there's a great experience to only playing for usa. The kind of planning has come to your birth. he's always different games and Anytime you pull 'em jersey whether it be basketball dream team so to say or the american hockey. It's always a little bit different than you represent your country in your city or your owner but the whole nation The intensity and specialist is just just so much better than it is currently or club when you think about over your long career and the players the great players that you've seen what's the commonality among them no matter where they play in the world dominic. Oh wow i mean there's so many good things to say Technique is always at a premium for these guys and and look. We made a great players. I've been around the way they've lived their lives off the field. It's been treat to be around them but family guys take care of themselves as far as what they put in their bodies And they do approach every practice as a tool for them pair and also get better so Absolutely professionals but if you have no technique i live specialist. It doesn't get you very far and obviously talent is born factor when you look around all the years that you've watched players tell me the ones that have left a lasting memory on you. Oh wow i date myself here but My favorite player of all time was great french. Captain michelle bettini During the eighties and early nineties for me was just a the epitome of a wonderful player and leader You know always good friends with john. Doyle so i have throw done on the conversation stuff those kinda for the us. And then when you look at the players now for showering although lionel messi these guys even a day of soccer players being the peak of their physical abilities guy still make people look silly and for these guys to have that challenge. you know. that's the reason why they stick out about the best. There's something about the game. And i don't know that i've ever been able to communicate now. I grew up with it because my dad was in the air force and we lived overseas. And i really fell in love with it But there is something about the game that brisk springs you in and there's an allure about account. Help me out a little bit here dominic. Yeah i think it's an acquired taste you know. It's like a glass of wine or beer so to say I think it's one of those once. You once you re takes in you know and for me i look. I grew up with the sport. But i've i've seen some friends over the years. We didn't really know too much about soccer. And then after being around just a little bit different and rest It's hard to explain why i think that way. I enjoy hockey and basketball football. You know soccer for me is is the game. I'm sure sports fans that they that their sport but You know the one thing that people always say it's the world game you know and i think it does touch every type of person whether big small physically gifted or not I think it brings in different flair. In case like you said steelers cover up that with countries around the world the way their country is having soccer teams. Identify with them. So i think has a little bit of everything. It's almost like the still i. I mentioned that you've won four. Mls championships To san jose and also to back to back with the houston dynamo when you think about what you thought. Coaching would be like. And you've been so successful. What is the essence of that success. So i first off. I had a really good Person my first job and she was a frank galaxies. Who's your wakes in early two thousands and just a i couldn't have picked a better. Luckily he picked me. But it was almost like i picked him to me. The perfect teacher And then for me is a good coach. Could tell you if he doesn't tell you this absolute wire it's all about the players the talent you have on the field you know. Luckily for me since around. Guys like landon donovan. Brian ching dwayne de rosario not huge international sars besides land but mls great buyers and that's where most success as come as you know and soccer and let's be honest if i'm coaching different players. Maybe i'm not talking to you coach down here and doing something else. The other thing that. I've always thought and i don't know whether i'm right about this. It's one thing to teach technique. But i think in soccer more than anything else. The important aspect of success is teaching communication especially out on the field where it's not like you're in the huddle or you're on the sideline and a coach. Come up to you and give you some advice on how to play. Am i correct in that observation. One hundred percent. That's that's a great point. You know It's it's it's easier said than done. I always say. Communication cuts down on running and makes attacking easier. It makes defending the heck of a lot easier when i was communication indication keeps i think people's confidence and people learn set at a premium when they're on the field so It's true there's there's no really time out you can't pick the guys over to the side notes. Going on has to be a free flowing game so therefore the personalities who are proud who are good leaders of our volk wanna positive way or so fourteen inside the walker out in the field. We only have a minute left. But i'm just wondering Goalkeeping has certainly evolved. We saw that in the world cup and we see it every four years in the world cup. Tell me how it's changed. Well look better now. Back in the day You know the defender past the goalkeeper. It isn't pick it up and do it with the ball. Goalkeepers did better with their feet because of the backlash rule You know reading. The game is always good. I think now especially the way the ball has the nanny factured these balls moving and knuckle like crazy. So i mean their reflex have to be wonderful. I think we're so lucky. Over the years obscene guy can play only wonderful shot stopping. She showed that game against belgium. Peppered previously entire time but A bit of a better overall athlete. Not just a shop but a better player dominic. I wanna thank you very much We've known each other for a very long time and haven't talked for a while but let's not make that be the case. Since you're in san jose as the head coach of the san jose earthquakes. Thank you my friend. Ron is great talking to you. And i totally agree with you. Let's keep it up. Keep this conversation going at a at a good pace. Okay take care thank you take your dominant career again. 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Mls has played on the us national olympic team and internationally with leeds united in the uk and he tells a very interesting and compelling story journey from terrified teenager to a trailblazing out and proud pro soccer player. In his candid memoir. That i hope everybody will check out. It's called coming out to play robbie. What really amazes you you the most about the journey that you've taken I guess the most interesting thing to me was. I decided. He's expectations of of. When i was gonna come out and and what would happen in most can happen your public and extradition of what might happen in soccer world and going back and all that stuff and i mean just a. It was a huge surprise of overwhelming support. Which i wasn't expecting and then support from you know just the rest of the world publicly and then i thought that i would never go back and I guess sixty -tations of what would happen off room. It's just been very different than the guys in my locker. Been very supportive. And that's how long the way and you know gone back and soccer and really enjoyed myself so slow. Things that i thought would happen didn't happen and i think that was the most interesting part of his parents journey. You know when. I find interesting. Is that for twenty five years. You had to deal with a lot of forces that maybe you did not understand. I mean you talk in the book about In elementary school. I hear my friends talk about girlfriends. And i couldn't relate to them. I was particularly uncomfortable. When i heard gay slurs like. Don't be so gay and then you know the love of the your family and catholicism and all of that i mean when somebody like you went through which you are. You surprised that you finally were able to take that step I was just so. I mean honestly i was just so sad miserable. I couldn't even enjoy having dinner with my family. So i just got the point where i just had to change something and i thought it was willing to. You know these risk I thought what would be disappointment or risk. You know a little bit of I don't know that would make the butthead so big in the end i could come through and find their love and support so that was You know my initial my initial thoughts but again i was just So badly need to make a change. So that's kind of what Likes just force me to do it. Those early years certainly were confusing for you but was a turning point Around thirteen or fourteen. Because you say. I remember the time my mom and i were listening to elton john song and she said something like i really like that song but it's too bad he's gay and i suppose that might have crystallized some things for you. Yeah i think that was one of the number of different things. And i think all those things chipped away and scarred me Which just you know. Maybe think that it was impossible for me to be out in your family or You know be around my loved one. So that was definitely one of the moments You know i've spoken man my talked about with my mom and she apologized and talk me through all that stuff but You know there were a number of those growing up in the sports world. A very young age in lockers. My whole life. You know so. It was a combination of things was Soccer playing soccer and playing sports. Something of a shelter for you. It was a field on the field my competing and winning and being successful in running by people. And all that stuff. That's when you know it was a bit of shelter but the locker room wasn't in what way i lock. I'm sure you're wherever she knows. You know so much faster and all the banter in so many things said that people don't really mean and You know people are very homo. Phobic or especially when i was younger even or their public and lock reviewing this. They weren't homophobic people. Just say things that they wanted to hear and make people laugh so it was going up around that and that hearing so many different things you know throughout the years and then turn pro getting worse that Like my family just kind of scared me tell me a little bit about how your catholic background factored into all of this Yeah it was. Raised catholic went to mother day and and was church every sunday and families very conservative catholic family and still are And you just hear things on sunday. School are things that your your high school that. Not okay to be gay marriage. Same sex marriage is not possible and use here so many different things that you you start to think a young age that there was something wrong with me you know. I'm not quite right. And i need to change something so we saw how i felt really struggled my sexually amount way And so we're in my faith. Trend of is what you know. Brought me to come to terms of this you. I've always been raised that And i believe that know. There's a purpose for me on this plan. There was a reason. You know the way i was created in terms with. I think option supposed to be this way and you know. I have this platform for a reason. And that's when i kind of cute than you kind of like all right. We need to do something about it. So you know religion. And i first famer scared me and i was young Your help me kinda come out and the Somewhat of a role model i guess. Did you have anybody to turn to. I mean was this pretty lonely. Yeah i didn't. That was a problem. And that's when people ask me if i would say anything to my my younger self or whatever I i didn't speak with anyone that i would tell people just to speak with somewhere therapist. I'm away from family and friends that they can kind of share. These motions of feelings often dangerous to keep them inside for so long. So i was Sprayed so anyone. Because i thought i can just anyone that i was so alone and after i came on i realized that i wasn't So that was you know very unhealthy and dangerous from you. You know you know. At least that's the one change that would make growing up. What did you find anything about the difference in the atmosphere toward homosexuality. in in europe Particularly in great britain. Because we all know what's happened over there for the racial racial relationships in everything people. What were the changes in the differences or similarities robbie from the us uk yes Y- i i think. Sports cultures around the world is a little homophobic and the stigma with mental health and can be Sexist the times and there's a lot of different issues that you know sports world needs to change and talk about and discuss The biggest differences of soccer here in football or soccer over there is that it's just a bigger platform over there and there's more attention with the media. There's more money and all that stuff so just a little bit more focused on it but you know a lot of the things that i heard and locker rooms here. I heard there so in that way. It's not much difference You know so. It's not like i could escape one country or the other. It was something that i had to kind of with and eventually You know go back into but you know from one another thing i learned. Was you know. Listen people that. I heard homophobic things in both countries. Uk any even hardly played there. It was homophobic these tournaments loic. But just you know again. That's the bathroom. And it's not like pack mentality in the locker room. They're the same guys that they called me and texting resuscitate you know what i'm so proud of what you did and i just want to let you know after support and those the same guys. I heard very much looking things from so makes me believe that. They're not necessarily also just kind to ten and educated on being censored people. What was it that brought to you to february. Two thousand thirteen in your coming out letter So i can't my family a lot of my friends. But the time. And i just told a bunch of people i didn't feel like i was completely out. I just felt like i wanted to just kinda get out of me and just get it all off my shoulders and so i wrote that two months before i posted the letter and i was seeing my desktop for awhile and seen with a friend and my fly in london and he read the letter in the shadows. And he's like you know you've talked. You've you've talked about a few times obvious either do it or don't do but you know he gets something i think and you read it and he was really moved by it and so was like no. I'm just gonna do it. So i posted it and it's very sporadic. It wasn't planning on it. I just posted it. And i close my laptop and trump my phone and didn't really know what kind of reaction i would get But i felt amazing. it was. I wish i could capture that that feeling of buffalo. And it's always with you because it felt so great and so liberating and just feel free from everything. Yeah one of the things that you say. And i thought it was one of the more touching parts of the book is. My mom's words will always stay with me. Tell everybody what those words were ya. Yes she she just you know. I remember telling her. I was like video within. She just told me that she loved me. Do matter and She just actually brought me to tears. But i've just Some moved by much love that she showed me at that moment and she's always been you know. A very lovely person has always showed me so much love so i was a little worried but from you know mike billers. She just was like yeah. Just doesn't matter to me. Robbie rogers is with us again. I want to recommend this book. We're going to make it. A selection of the month on the sports byline usa book owner. It's called coming out to play of course robbie and outstanding player in the l. has represented the united states in the olympics as well and played over in the uk. Probably i'm going to make an observation here in moraga. Please feel free to correct me but now that you can look back and i know you were concerned about the way your parents would react to this The way the fans would react to it your teammates and now that you see it has not been what you might have feared it to have been Do you wish you had done it a little bit earlier. Seeing the support that you've gotten a question before i don't really have the best answer for you. Think you know in a in a way. Yes i do seeing how much support i got and i wish i could have enjoyed Some moments in my career a little bit more like olympics or winning a championship columbus crew or different things like that. You may have been just myself and again just taking all those emotions but i am today because of experience that i've gone through and i think you know having to struggle and be very lonely at times and work things is there's a lot of characters so i don't regret anything in that way and i think everyone has their own time to come out and that's why you know not mad that there aren't other states just So it's it's definitely answer that question you know i guess yes and no but I do know that people are athletes. If they want to come out in and play the sport that they'll be support you know. I know from my experiences that I have come out really room and supporting me. So i feel very blessed. I know not. Everyone has that Same france support. But i think that the sports world has come to a point in an industry where you know people will be Probably supported rather than turned away. Yeah i saw your quote That you were surprised that other than yourself. Jason collins and michael. Sam athletes haven't come out. What does that tell you. I mean it just reminds me of what i was so afraid of what these guys are going through in remember going through every day you know things that they probably here in their locker rooms You know those are the kind of things that i heard him. It made me think that it was impossible. So those things still go on. And and that's why you know that environment is there any any out athletes and just reminds me of how bekker's yeah everyday people come out. I mean we see it. We read about it here about it so have actors musicians politicians. What makes it different. I suppose more difficult for the male athletes. I think there's just a stereotype that people think of an athlete in which is not true. A lot of athletes. Don't think this but a lot of fans think you don't athlete is this guy is a big guy. Lots of stuff surrounding you Have a lot of money his dating girls and just stereotype. That i just think it's so incorrect. So it's definitely not a stereotype of the guy is gay guys playing a sport know. I don't think it's the first thing that crosses fans minds when they're watching a sport ever watching their team So i think you know. I don't know i think historically and traditionally it's that way and i think again that's a little more athletes you like. I said come out. I think they'll change that stigma change that perception and we only have a couple minutes left. It was your acceptance of yourself that freed you. You said to appreciate all things in my life. That i couldn't previously. Give me some idea about what you're talking about today. Now about five or ten years. I mean just simple things like traveling with my team just joking on a bus and being one of the guys to get just having dinner with my family. Having to hide anything to be able to talk. I mean every aspect of life. That seems so simple two people and just so routine eye cream enjoy and now i can't you know i'm also thinking if i'm wrong here and feel free to correct me on this but but i would think having come out There's always going to be ignorant people who will say ignorant things. But i would assume when people know that they're in the presence of someone they're going to be a little more sensitive more so than they would have been before they may have known somebody was in their presence. And that's the truth and that's probably the biggest reason i doubt. I mean when. I'm with the galaxy and locker and of course people are more sensitive to the surroundings and just like i am when i'm around people. I'm not going to say. I try not to save things anyways but you know sometimes things slip out but when you're in presence of someone that you don't you know you don't wanna hurt their feelings you're just more extensively things so again. That's the only way to really change lockers. This when there's more active out Professionals that are that present in their locker rooms that people have to be sensitive to two situations in about thirty seconds. What was your aha moment in all of this. But that's when for me and just this here You know last year. I struggled with you know. Gosh i'm going out gaffey and that like i almost like branded myself as that and this off season i just was like you know i need to focus on being a soccer player and just you know contributing and being another game the team and when i kinda just came in terms of okay. I'm a gay man. That plays a sport and i guess i'm a role model way but more importantly i'm just part of the team where i'm helping us. You know trying to win a championship. Robbie thank you very much. I appreciate it. Congratulations on this book. it's a very outstanding book and thank you for telling the story take robbie robbie rogers with us again. 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Due to whoever is found this Thank you for sharing this with me but From our very own new hampshire supreme court on tuesday. They up ended the twenty eighteen conviction of north country resident for possession of silla sivan mushrooms. Why because they ruled the conviction conflicts with the native american based religion that he practices in its unanimous ruling. The four sitting justices said the normally. I think there are five so they must be missing one at the moment in the new hampshire. Supreme court said the new hampshire constitutions right of religion is stronger than the protections under the us constitution which requires a stricter balancing test in the cases of religious use of illegal drugs. So what i'm hearing. Is that the reform satanic church needs to officially incorporate the use of silla saban. Cuban says into his teachings. You haven't already. I don't know if i have are not honest. Probably okay so have you used scylla syon for spiritual purposes prior i mean. That's that's the primary purpose. I i agree using the word spiritual kind of loosely but yeah that's sort of spiritual growth or personal growth wherever you want to characterize it at me. That's the primary purpose. In my opinion up. Suicide and cubans is to totally is. I mean he wanna trip to something like lsd. But if you want to self reflect and person so let's typing cubans says the way to go. I'm not gonna say that you couldn't do that on on lsd. I just happen to prefer Suicide in it's just more natural. It's a better experience. I think overall sleep afterward which has difference. That's that's actually one of the number one reasons. Why the only thing i don't like about lsd is. That sleeping afterward is just not going to happen now. Like seventeen or eighteen hours. Yeah and lsd is just a little weirder in a way that is not as pleasant To me just generally. I just enjoy the the mushroom experience better over two years and And there's a long history of in this case in particular native american church that has been using so sivan according to the decision. D jeremy d. Mac of colebrook new hampshire had practiced to monarch earth-based religion for years and in two thousand seventeen joined the oratory of mystical sacraments branch of the. I don't know. I'm sure i'm mispronouncing. This oakland vo clue okay. L. e. v. u. e. h. a. That's a tough one. Some kind of indian Word the native american church with that group. The church issued him a membership card which allows him to ingest the mushrooms sacramento valley. No by no means. Do i think you need to have a membership card to enjoy this particular sacramento. This particular spiritual journey of using mushrooms. But obviously you know having one. I guess is good for legal purposes. I suppose but He had this card. The church does have certain restrictions for the sacrament. So they say that. It should be taken in seclusion not in public or around children. I don't know about seclusion. I mean that could be really dangerous for someone who has never done so assignment before. Yeah dispute that particular requirement. Well and you know you're not a member of that shirt shrew deficit. That's dangerous of them. Though different churches would have different ways to this. And maybe you know maybe in the beginning this church they do require you to take it with a group of true or with a trip sitter or whatever terminology they might have for that Within the religion be. I totally agree with you definitely. Do not want to take any kind of psychedelic or entheogen. Ick drug like rooms on a first time basis by yourself. Yeah it's not a good plan. It's always good to do it with what's called a trip sitter. Somebody who ideally isn't going to be on anything but if they are they're long experienced with that particular drug and they know what they're getting into and it's not going to throw them off their their game or whatever they they know what their doses that they can handle easily. The church says it should not be taken in public or around children now not taking it in public definitely good advice especially for a new user for sure. We don't want someone running around on shrooms for their first time in the streets of new york city or anywhere for that matter you you don't wanna be running about anywhere if you are alone and on shrooms in public not a good Good plan But that's not to say that there aren't you know once you become more experienced of a user of them That you couldn't be in public. I could probably think that'll work at this point. You know it with the light enough. Does i mean i could. I could do that. I you know eight. A huge powell of shrooms anything. But i'm saying you know normal rose hades a non heroic dose right. Probably go to work just fine. In fact there are some people who do you know. Micro i as they call it microdosing with my mushrooms meaning taking a tenth of a normal dose or a quarter or less of a normal dose to where it's going to have some sort of an effect on your consciousness but it won't be something that's going to make you wanna go curl up in a ball and you know. Close your eyes and look at the closed. I visualize for an hour or whatever right so you know knowing. Your limits is is important microdosing. Sounds like a good idea. Also sounds like it would get expensive pretty quickly though especially if doing regularly now i don't i don't know if i agree with you. I mean okay. Be expensive in that. Let's say you you consider a coffee a day and expensive habit because a lot of people do drink a cup of coffee or more every single day some of them take the time to go and spend the five or six bucks or whatever it starbucks to buy their coffee so plenty of people have a daily habit that cost them ours per day. At least and if you were to take. Let's say a typical dose of mushrooms. Divvy that up by a four. Your typical mushroom dose might cost you twenty to thirty bucks. You divvy that up by four. You know you're like a pack of cigarettes today. I mean that's that's not bad way better for you than a pack of cigarettes. That's only if you're doing quarter dose right so eight fifty five four hundred fifty free plus if you're really into it and you start buying in bulk. I bet you can get them a lot cheaper than thirty dollars. Her dose probably The toll free number here. Eight fifty five four hundred fifty free this this incredible court. That's our number unanimous. 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Actually the new hampshire supreme court overturning a lower court ruling and setting a man free who has been prosecuted for possession of silla. Simon mushrooms ourselves mushrooms. Which are for those. That are familiar psychedelic mushrooms. The only mushrooms. I like yeah. I don't mind mush. i. I have no problem eating mushrooms but yeah i certainly do. Enjoy some Some psychedelic mushrooms from time. To time. Some i i prefer the term entheogen. Then psychedelics psychedelic. Sounds like whoa and anthea genyk. The root word there is god the god within basically so entheogen. The god within that the idea is that these sorts of experiences reveal that As as a fact. And i look to these as definite spiritual experiences myself and i have for years. I would say for probably more than a decade of my life. I've taken On occasion not often but but on occasion. I've taken psychedelic mushrooms. Several dozens of times. I think i don't know how many certainly meter certainly enough to be able to trip alone. At this point. Yeah and most of them from me are loan. Most of them are just sort of an internal spiritual. Experience does not to say that. I haven't done them with with others But to me it's not like it's a club that it's not a party drug right. Lsd is closer to being a party but if you wanna party i do something like mgm am open now four. That's not to say that that could be used in a spiritual manner as well because you know. Md is sort of the the love drug and it helps people connect with other certainly does on a way that they would not normally do. It doesn't have to just be a party correct. It does serve that role very nicely. Yeah and it can be used in therapeutic settings it has been and correct and it has been used to help people really kind of like breakdown. Whatever mental barriers that. They've put up around. Let's say being the victim of some sort of an abuse in the past by a lover or a parent or whatever. Something bad happened to them. It has allowed them to break down those walls and really address whatever. The root causes of their depression or the issues that they're experiencing that was likely caused by the bad experience they had in the past and gets them to the point where they can actually forgive the person who harmed them whereas before the that particular experience they might not been able to so. I think that could be used in a very positive way as well. But this particular case that we're talking about does have to do with psychedelic mushrooms. And a man who is a member of the oakland her politics please if somebody knows how to pronounce that. I'm sure i'm butchering it. Call in at six. Oh three two eight hundred sixty one sixteen but he was a member of this church. And we've actually talked about this church in the past on free talk live. And we've discussed you know the issue of the spiritual use of drugs and so what a big deal was actually all four of the sitting justices on the new hampshire supreme court. Who made this decision. The church does have certain restrictions. It should not be taken in seclusion public or around children and should not be taken when operating a motor vehicle or shooting firearms and these are also relatively good advice. Probably not a good idea to mix psychedelic mind altering substances with guns. If you're going to shrooms up put your guns away. I don't wanna walk around open carrying and it's not a wise idea. Yeah and it really just doesn't much meld with the vibe. I don't think that you're probably not going to be willing to. Yeah you'd be like no that's okay so anyway. Man's named jeremy d. mac. He went on to become a minister in the church efforts to reach him. According to the union leader were unsuccessful via his public defenders amazingly. He got through and appealed his case in one with public defenders. But that's probably the most surprising part of this story right. Generally their job is to get you a plea deal right. And they don't do anything more than that every now. And then you come across a real stellar public defender here in new hampshire and i gotta give him some credit for it. The court wrote this quote. We have long recognized that in part one article five. There's a broad general. A universal statement and declaration of the natural unalienable right of every individual of every human being in the state to make such religious profession to entertain such religious sentiments or to belong to such religious persuasion as he chooses and to worship god privately and publicly in the manner and season most agreeable to the diktats of his own conscience reason. This wrote supreme court justice. James bassett quoting a one hundred and fifty year old opinion from the court back in eighteen. Sixty eight now. Yeah and you know what. I'll go ahead and insert here article part one article five from the constitution. This is the exact wording of the religious freedom article here so in the us constitution. It's just one sentence in the the first first i. This is what it says. In the new hampshire constitution quote every individual has a natural and unalienable alienable right to worship god according to the dictates of its own conscience and reason and no subject shall be hurt molested or restrained in his person liberty or estate for worshiping god in the manner and season most agreeable to the diktats of his own conscience or for his religious profession. Sentiments precision provided. He does not disturb the public peace or disturb other in their religious worship as a powerful statement. So you're looking at the new hampshire constitution though. Since you mentioned that has got some interesting statement senate it does. It's very long though it's surprising. It's like one hundred and one articles whereas the us institutions like twenty-seven pages. It's not very long. We'll not every article takes an entire page true so more like a single paragraph that one in two thousand eighteen. Mack was convicted of silla. Sivan possession after state. Police discovered mushrooms while searching for weapons that were under a confiscation order in an unrelated civil case. They didn't have a warrant for the shrimps in the first place. Why wasn't that out. Then that's a good question. So assignment is known for its hallucinogenic effects on users. The federal government classifies silla. Simon as a schedule one drug which means it has a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use. Okay that's according to the government. Can we remarked on the fact. That for all of the christians out there who wants suicide ben and pot to be illegal. Can i ask you. Why do you think. God got it so wrong. That man has step fix it Because that's essentially what they're arguing here. Are these natural things that in their worldview got put here that serve this particular purpose of making people happy and they what man to come along. Destroy that now what. What percentage of christians actually do want that. I don't know i don't either. I mean i would be interested in hearing from them. If those christians are actually out there tonight listening six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty is our number. You can call in and join the show. I mean i'm sure those people exist. I don't know if they are all necessarily christians. There may be muslims. There may be catholics. There there may be well prohibitionism as an idea is strongest right and that's where christianity is also stronger. So they're certainly going to be some overlap. 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I should have his conviction overturned for possession of silla savic mushrooms because he was using them for religious purposes and they were officially a sacrament of his church. The oakland view her native american church. Which for years has been advocating for the use of psychedelic mushrooms. Two thousand eighteen Found the man in this particular case convicted of possession. His name is jeremy. D mackie's from the north countries. They call it here in new hampshire convicted after state. Police found the mushrooms while searching for weapons that were under a confiscation order in an unrelated civil case. It sounds to me like it domestic conflict and somebody got an order against him. They came to confiscate guns. And that's when they found the mushrooms now they say here's suicide is a schedule. One drug at the federal level which according to the feds means there's a high potential potential for abuse and no accepted medical use. Which of course is total b s. Get both of those. Statements are absolutely false. There's very little potential for abuse act and it has enormous therapeutic benefits. And you're not just saying that There's a guy from the uk who used to be their equivalent of their drug czar. His name is david nutt. That's an ut and he came out with. After he left the the government position that he was in he kind of joined the side of good on the war on drugs he joined the side of drugs and he came out with a chart that shows the relative harm of all the most popular substances illegal and legal because alcohol was on the list of the on the planet basically and mushrooms were at the bottom of that list with barely any score for anything any kind of real significant damage to society or the individual so is arguably the safest of all of the drugs and as far as medical uses. Well even though the government gang doesn't accept it for that we know that people have had tremendous experiences with Therapy sessions involving mushrooms. Yeah there's been a lot of research and clinical studies being done on this lately. Her as the last five or six years and they all are saying the same thing. This is by the fda. Mind you right there saying this is extremely useful for treating depression anxiety. Ptsd and things of that nature. It's not only extremely useful. But they found in some of these studies that people with like. Let's say the ptsd study for instance. They've tried all the other treatments. And so this was like their last ditch last effort. Nothing else works for them. They actually had their ptsd cured in many cases. Like not that you you have to keep coming back. Keep coming back. Keep taking does never cured with a good therapy session and a good dose of of mushrooms. So they've done some amazing things but regardless that's the federal government for you. I mean just to give you some clarification of federal government also considers marijuana to be a schedule one drug with no medical use. There's the majority. I think now of the states in the united states have medical programs from merrick marijuana so i thought the us government was on. Its way to changing that or it hasn't happened yet. okay now. I don't really pay attention to what they do. I don't blame there. Was there was a bill that came out this fall and they were supposed to vote on it and i actually don't know what happened to it. Maybe i feel like a flip that particular bill into the stimulus package. I think it might have been voted on but maybe maybe it never got passed by the senate i- we'll have to look into it. There was a bill that would remove it from schedule one but it also would put a five percent tax on it so it's not an additional tax on top of whatever state charging jesus so suicide and create that black market following his conviction. Max lawyer asked trial. Judge peter bernstein to throw out his conviction on religious grounds and the veterans superior court judge refused while the first amendment to the u. s. constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion that had led sub justices including former. Us supreme court justice antonin scalia to say that the government had a compelling interest to enforce laws even if a potentially illegal activity is part of a religious practice. Other cases have dealt with the drug peyote and with religious processions on streets. Bassett rejected scalise argument preferring to rely on the new hampshire constitution. So bassett is one of the judges in the supreme court. Well the new hampshire constitution as more applicable to the case than the united states constitution. Given that this was the new hampshire supreme court and correct run over by the new hampshire constitution. Plus the new hampshire constitution is just better as far as protecting on religious grounds. He wrote bassett. Is one of the new hampshire supreme court judges. He wrote that the us constitution protects religious beliefs while the new hampshire constitution protects both beliefs and practices. That's an interesting discrepancy part. One article five of the new hampshire constitution which we read for you earlier deems that every person has a natural and unalienable right to worship god according to his own conscience and that the person quote shall not be hurt molested or restrained provided he does not disturb the public peace or disturb others in their religious worship. Meaning that if you're taking mushrooms or whatever other thing right. This is just a case about mushrooms. But in theory this could apply to other things being done for spiritual purposes. If you're doing a psychedelic drug for spiritual purpose and you are unobtrusive. You're not obstructing the peace right. You're fine if however you're going out and shouting at the top of your lungs in front of somebody's home You know you're going to have a problem there so this is a reason why one of a valeted religious belief to proselytize that it is a valid religious belief but in that case it would it would cross purposes with the constitution. Okay so and in that case they would argue that. You're connecting conducting Not civil disobedience but Disorderly conduct basically if you are making a noise that people find to serve disturbs the peace. What a quote reasonable person thinks is disturbing than you can be ordered to stop doing that. Which again is why if you're going to take Psychedelic drugs for the first time you should be with people and being a safe place that you that you feel good to where you won't wanna leave and go and do something that don't go shouting at random strangers on the street exactly so quote. The of our state constitution expressly provided that these rights of conscience could not be surrendered nor could society or government have any claim or right to assume to take them away or to interfere or incremental with them except so far to protect society against any acts demonstrations of one sector persuasion which might tend to disturb the public peace or affect the rights of others said basset quoting the sixty eight supreme court ruling. So kudos very good. They did a good job. And i'm really surprised it was all four of and there was not one. Dissenting vote on this particular case and what the constitution as much as i don't like governments and constitutions are used to create governments. It's pretty clear on the matter of religious freedom. The new hampshire one is. It's not just one little throwaway line. About what congress can't do no. It's it's a strong paragraph starting. The hey if it's to worship your god whatever man. Yeah i love it yeah. It's also a nice to have a little bit of good news. You can join us here. The number six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty six three two eight three six one six zero whether you wanna talk about religious use of various different psychedelics or other drugs. You can join us here and this. This is great news for new hampshire. Another another feather in our cap. This is free talk. Live a man. Thanks god he's not sexually attracted to children and popeye's home is boiler weekend and week out. Do you come back like a housebroken pomeranian. Loyal to the bitter end good boy. This is the onion weakened review. Georgia's cop county. Angelico hospital held its fifth annual walk to cure. 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They backed it up with new hampshire's article five part one article. Five of the new hampshire constitution now. Curiously they did apparently remand the case back to the trial court. And i'm not sure what that why they would do that. Actually this versus the story. I don't think it says yeah does does say that okay. The court remanded the case back to the trial court. So why would they do that. If they overturned the conviction they say that the trial judge erred in legal rulings following his conviction. so what are they. Try and ana. It'd be interesting to see where this goes from here because it's very confusing it now. They've given it back to the trial corp. They've said you can't convict him for this reason. So is the trial court then. Going to convict him a different reason and send him to jail or is the trial court. Then going to say okay. I've had my hand smacked by the supreme court. I guess you're free to go sir. So i don't know where this is gonna go from here. I don't either. I hope it goes toward his freedom though. Yeah and i also. I also wish we could go and watch but right now. The courthouses are highly restricted. You can't go in to see a public trial nap. Reportedly they're having trials over some sort of video or online conference. The two hearings. I have been we have a friend. A mutual friend of ours who allegedly set off fireworks in central square during one of our nightcap parties that we through this year the cops ticketed him for that. Did that trial happen. He hasn't gone to trial yet but he did. Have a pretrial conference. And i listened in on that conference. It was on the phone. So it's just one of those phone conference call things it wasn't like a zoom or a webex or any kind of there was no web or video component was just people on the phone and man. It was a cluster. F bad. you know just just as you would expect your typical kind of phone conference mishaps people not being able to hear too many people talking at once. You know it was bad and it's kind of interesting because normally a judge robed person is able to have total control over the courtroom right. That's kind of one of the things they get off on right like got. They've got men with guns. They love it who will do whatever the man in the robe says so if you do something that's out of line. The man in the robe since the men with guns over to take you away into a cage and that's called contempt of court but if you're on the phone the men with guns aren't next to you anymore. They're not in the same room as you anymore. There over in wherever it is there at i presume they're all in the core just doing their thing over phone line and you're in your home now. That's not to say that you couldn't be hit with a contempt charge over the phone. But you're in the safety of your your in the comfort of your home correct. So how can they charge you with contempt of court today. Can i mean the judge. Sure they can do whatever they want. But the judge has total discrepancy over his courtroom and can make whatever kind of rulings he or she wants to about contempt of court. So in the case of in this league barrick it is and it's also not even statutory it's just a quote inherent power in the western court system. Yeah nothing in any constitution or legal documents. Give some this right. Hey we can do this and we're gonna do this yep And the and the only check against it our other judges. So if you don't like that you've been sent to jail for contempt of court. You can appeal to a panel of their buddies ohka. Well then the case out they'll throw it in the the garbage bin. I mean so the the contempt of court charges. Either what they call direct or indirect contempt. Now as i understand it. I'm not a lawyer. It's been a little while since i've done the research on this but my understanding direct means that you did something in the presence of the judge. Now i don't know of on the phone would constitute direct criminal contempt. I think probably would because you are technically in a hearing with a judge. Yeah but if. I see a judge at walmart. I'm not going to get charged with contempt of court when i spit on them. No you probably wouldn't. Because at that time they are not the court that time they right man we have to play into their little religious delusion right. I forgot they have not. They have not channeled the the entity of the state. They're not wearing their robe. Just a guy in a in a walmart in that particular case which in which case you will be charged with something. I would never action on a person. That's kind of. That's not the way i do. I would flip them off. However probably i've always been kind to judge burke when i when i see him in real life and he's fairly fairly nice about it. I would recognize the judges. I saw them in real life. So it's a moot point anyway. Oh yeah i've seen on a number of occasions. He actually came out to the old vietnamese food truck. That was outside of your house for a couple there at the time but they're used to the enemies food truck there and i ran into burke there and we kind of did you know caught up with each other. He's retired now but anyway if he's retired he's not hurting people. So there's no need to be disrespectful for short him anyway but he did hurt a lot of people that's right although he might have been moonlighting time to sort of filling in so he wasn't doing it fulltime i guess you could say So the phone number six. Oh three two eight three sixty one sixty. If you want to join the conversation you definitely can were talking about The just the bizarre court system. Now it's even less accessible than it's ever been although it is more convenient to be able to call in to the plus side you can now sit in your underwear in a court hearing. I need to get charged with just livestream that to twitch or something. Yeah he's sitting there in my underwear talking to a judge. I wonder if that would make it. Contextual right like you say if they knew what you were wearing would they be able to be. Would they be able to be upset about that. Because one of the positives of this watching streams of me live. Well they in theory could find out later okay right. She was being disrespectful. I was but if if without video stream you know. If you're sitting there naked you can be in court naked. If you want to or in the bathroom you could be on the toilet. What does that sound while. Yeah and that's the other thing is like like how much contempt can we actually show for this court and the judges they at least so far and i heard another hearing with Actually lumpy who's one of our callers. And he does some construction work for us. Here is working on your Your house right now. Actually the The churches interfaith center is being remodeled by him. But there's some guy who's charging him with some bs or whatever there's a conflict with a neighbor and he had a hearing this this week as well and these judges they have to be a little bit more allowing towards understanding that these conference call systems suck and especially when you've got twenty people who are on the line and you know as with any conference call that you've ever done in the last year or prior because a lot of people did them for the first time over this last year right. You can't go to work so there's all kinds of conference calls now able to speak during these comforts or is it a listen only for you. If i had spoken they would have hurt me. Okay because it doesn't seem like they have much control over. Who is able. Maybe they do have a panel or something like some sort of web panel but based on the way they were talking it made it sound like they didn't like they wouldn't have known who was talking from which microphone or whatever. I'm not clear on. What system is that. They're using but it didn't seem like they had a whole lot of like grasp over this clearly. The system was and sending it up so that people have to call into a special number to speak Is not hard yes. So that's what they've done and the judges have to be relatively like calm. They can't get as upset as they normally would at somebody who's talking out of turn because you know they might not even be able to hear them like 'cause you know how these conference calls are if one person's talking if somebody else's like china but in and say. Hey hey they might not be able to them necessarily depending on how the phones irv setup to give people a little more leeway in order to get things done so it's like the judges are used to having total total iron grip over there courtroom and they don't anymore so that's one of the positives of this that is a positive and the other positive is you could actually get high in court now as well which is something that would have been challenging to do and i know but you know you wouldn't have to smuggle drugs in pass court security. I and that of course puts you at serious risk of being arrested. It's not a good idea. Yeah generally not a good idea unless you're obviously drunk on the phone line to where the judge can tell that you're inebriated this nothing that would prohibit you from you know just having a drink the entire time or puffing smoke or whatever taken some mushrooms excuse me judge i'm in the middle of my religious rites scheduled for the same time as this court hearing so more coming up here. Six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty three talk live. Why did you move to the shire. I moved here to the shire. Because there's other people around who take liberty justice seriously as i do. I moved to the shire. Because i saw videos of people challenging authority and thought that i could get support myself. It called to me like do this right now. I wanted to be around people like me. Who got it and once i got here i knew there was no i wanted to be. I've always wanted to change the world. So i moved to the shire to join people who were actually working towards doing the same thing. 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Four public news service servicemember illustre supported erred on radio stations across the nation and online at public new service dot. Org it's free talk live open bones as always here but a different phone numbers so he had our old number in your phone. But i didn't get rid of that and replace it which six zero three two eight hundred sixty one sixty at six zero. Three two eight three six one six zero in the studio tonight you've got in and of course we'll talk to you about whatever's on your mind We've been discussing drugs and coming up. We'll be talking about sex. We actually had a really positive report. Are i guess. Result from the new hampshire supreme court with four of the four justices voting to free a man who was convicted on possession of psychedelic mushrooms because he was using them for religious purposes. And the court says that in new hampshire is totally fine positive. News has been very rare this year. So i'm super excited to hear that. May maybe the best story of the year. Well the full decrease in. I think it was. Denver of all drugs has probably better oregon oregon. That was pretty. That was pretty big news. That's a good point but this is a very close second and it could all change. Overnight if trump actually pardons russell break. I wouldn't get my hopes up on that but that would be to. I'm going to say that this ruling might be bigger than oregon. I mean oregon was big news because the people there voted for drug decriminalization. I don't wanna. I'm not trying to take that away from on the other hand what. They voted for an oregon this year. And i agree with you. That was the big news of the election. You know forget about trump. Forget about biden. Forget about you know whatever. Other things were voted on drug decriminalization by far no doubt the most important issue i think of the election however it was a small amounts of drug decriminalization so the amounts are very very tiny. They're only enough. That an individual could have a relatively small portion. You can't have like a pound of mushrooms in oregon. Take a small dose of mushrooms. We could look it up. I think they did specify what it was. But i don't think it was more than this. It's not hard to get up to a couple of pounds of mushrooms. Yeah that's not. You're not gonna dose on a pound of mushrooms way back but if you know what you're doing and you go looking for them. Oh you mean picking them. I see what you're saying. They grow everywhere all right. Plus if there if you're picking them then they haven't been dried out yet. Yeah and so. They're gonna be heavier than they. Otherwise would be if you're just buying them prepared but the point i'm making here is that it's still illegal to have more than x. Mushrooms or more than x. Number of pills of md may or whatever in oregon. I mean it's technically illegal to have any of it but it's decriminalized so if you get caught with a small amount then you basically get one hundred dollar fine some very small fine and they probably will confiscate your trucks from you better than nothing. I guess yeah already week. it's good. I mean it's a huge step in the right direction to to have that happen in the united states. I didn't see it coming. I was like wait. This is on the ballot. Wait it past. wow okay. So that's great. But it's still small amounts this ruling by the new hampshire. Supreme court doesn't say anything about amounts and it's very broad. Yeah no points to the new hampshire constitution. Which is pretty clear about. A as long as you're not hurting anyone or disturbing anyone you got however you want right and that means not just mushrooms but anything else that you find helps you get in touch with god and so that could mean like well in the case of the guy with the mushrooms whether he had an ounce of mushrooms or ten ounces of mushrooms as long as he was using it for his own spiritual purposes of. It's just his stock that he has not seen selling it to people right. He's he's just got all these mushrooms around in case he wants to take one every day or or whatever you now so i think that's technically it could be bigger in that case because the i sure your best to have a supply of mushrooms luli especially if it's going to give it away to its parishioners as well you know. I like this church. The oliva church in it's a native american church you can't. They've got a website you know there's a lot of you can do a lot of reading about that but again you shouldn't have to join this one church if it is your personal spiritual journey you church can be just your church. You don't have to. You know joining new hampshire. Supreme court doesn't have any restrictions whatsoever about doing this within the confines of a state-sponsored or state recognized church. That's correct so presumably. The reformed church i could in fact get arrested for suicide possession and presumably the new hampshire supreme court without because it should recognize part of my religious beliefs. I talk about it often enough. That i can prove that absolutely and you've talked about it before today as well so now that you have not that it would be legit if you just discovered this in. We're like okay well. I'm going to start doing mushrooms now. I mean that's legit. Because you know it's your spirituality. It's your choice. It's your religion so kudos to them for that. If you want to join us here six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty but on that you're welcome to but we're going to move to a different topic. This one has to do with sex workers and this one's not good news. Unfortunately the good part of this. I guess congress actually passed this on its own and didn't slip it into the covid bill like they did so much other nonsense but this is bad. It's not good from input mag pornhub the world's second largest porn hosting site who was larger than pornhub cording to the top ten list. There were two other porn sites that were larger than pornhub was like x. videos dot com. I think they're all like the. It's like the last three of the top. Ten sites on the planet are porn sites. The last three of the so seventy nine us about right. They have had a rough year and evidently recently. They defaulted to bitcoin as their preferred payment method. They did in the united states or north america. But this only the us last time. I looked when we were doing a story about it last week. They the european union area states. You could only use a bank transfer. That's silly friday senators from both. The democratic and republican parties introduced a bill meant to limit exploitation and trafficking on sites like pornhub but critics. Worry it's passing could negatively impact sex workers to one of the frustrating things about what the point was that i was about to make. It didn't matter. Apparently we'll get back to. I'm sure the bill which is known. As the stop internet sexual exploitation act or cisa was brought to the senate by senators goes on a little bit. It's not important. It seeks to create over arch overarching standards to which every sex mark platform on the internet would be held including things like only fans and all of that stuff craigslist revisit any that can have pornographic content merkley said in a press release while some online platforms have recently announced steps to change some practices. Much more needs to be done. We must ensure that not another single life of a child. Man or woman is destroyed by these sites. The statement specifically mentions recent reports about pornhub including one from the new york times that detailed the repercussions of nonconsensual revenge porn on its victims included in the bill's provisions. Hold on. that's the reason. Why visa and mastercard. That was what they cited when they said we're done. We're not gonna service you anymore. Pornhub sipa by this because at the revenge porn they were citing. Yeah this so. The claim was apparently the new york times. Did some sort of an expose where they hired somebody to look into porn hubs content and they found all manner of naughty things that weren't supposed to be there involving the things were discussing here. You know. revenge porn alleged child abuse a pornography porn. That's what the claim was and pornhub response was well. You know we take bitcoin. But they also said that we've got this new system involved that requires all producers to identify themselves. Now safe had that in place since last year. Okay well they're they're they're touting it now saying. Hey we've put this big thing in place and so all these things that you're saying are a problem are no longer a problem. And they've like in a ton of accounts on the platform as well like their way down like millions of accounts have been completely eliminated really because because they didn't they didn't know your customer up. That seems a little careless. If you're running a porn site not to at least verify that your customers are over. The age of eighteen yeah. I don't think that well over the age of eighteen. The question is what are they uploading right. So somebody who's over the age of eighteen could still upload something that involves someone is under the age of eighteen and of course with amateur pornography those have the same requirements of age identification as professional pornography. I've never looked into it. So they will they will go and forward is that part of this yes including signed statements from all involved parties. Oh yeah it's a masted. Let's talk about it coming up here the number you six. Oh three two eight three sixty one sixty if you wanna weigh in here if you think that you know. Government restrictions are somehow going to stop trafficking of human sex trafficking to hear from you. Freetalklive freedom Freedom is the call of the untamed scotsman and all others. 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I mean there's always been a good rule that i learned it when i was twelve years old. Never put anything in writing that you don't want the entire world to read. This is true for everything now. Never take any photograph that you don't want the entire world to see number record video that you don't want the entire world to see because not only can sue one person acting in bad faith reveal whatever it is to the world but you could also be hacked anytime -solutely. Any of these things can happen. Especially if you're carrying around porn on your phone that you know you're in very high chances. Eventually someone is going to hack you. And that's going to end up on the net getting hacked all the time. The whole dan attack that took place. I think in two thousand sixteen involved one hundred fifty million compromise devices most of which were cell phones so people's phones are already probably vulnerable. So you're telling us about a bipartisan bill. So both democrat and republican sponsors at the national level called stop internet sexual exploitation. Act or sis-. Yeah now didn't they have another one like a few years ago they do just like they did with And papa they trot out the same bill slightly rewarded every few years. Hoping eventually one of these. It's going to pass through congress. I have to make a correction. I think i said this bill had passed. it has only been introduced at this stage Okay so that's good at least this isn't actually law yet. The one that did pass. And i forget what it was called. It's it was very similar. Sounding to secede was started with an s. and it was something else about victims or whatever that one did pass and it cracked down on various different internet things and didn't work created more underground. Sex work probably put more people at risk now just like they always do so included in the bill's provisions as a robust in severely limiting video verification process users who upload pornographic material to a public website would need to verify their identity with the site and every person in the video would need to sign and submit a consent form. Ridiculous sites would also need to offer twenty four hour support services and take down reported content within two hours of it being flagged the thing that bothers me most about this. Is the the steps the real steps that people are actually going to have to undertake. How do they how was pornhub. Going to know that the person who is signing this consent form is it doing so under duress right and how are they going to know. The is actually the same person in the video. I imagine they can have some rules. That require them to sign it on video or something like that but again which is not some guy with a gun. Standing behind the camera you know there are of course merits to creating a more vigorous moderation system for sites rife with exploitation but doing so will undoubtedly be a balancing act and one what they high risk bringing about new harm if the demands are so onerous that sex workers are unable to comply. I don't know why sex workers wouldn't be unable to comply with any of these demands that they put out so far. I just also don't see any reason why they should imply. Despite its idealistic goals. They stop internet sexual exploitation act which obviously is not going to stop internet sexual exploitation. It's just gonna create a bunch of paperwork requirements for people that want to create. You know when you are somebody. Who's a creator. You know whether you be a porn creator or a you know other sort of artists whether it's music or another art form. You don't wanna stop the creative process or hold it up because some government bureaucrat is saying you have to fill out these forms in triplicate and make sure you get them notarized and make sure you know submit them here there and over there and then you've got to wait five days before we are five weeks or however long the approval process takes. I mean it's just ridiculous bureaucracy that's all this is it is more. Bureaucracy isn't going to fix it. The only thing that's really going to help this as a cultural shift so people are upset. Oh you uploaded revenge ame- after we revenge porn me after we broke up so what i saw you naked and you knew about what is the big deal. That's the thing. I gotta agree with you completely on this area. I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape over these revenge porn sites. I get it it was done without your consent but you could send it to the video. You can send you to this person. Have the video. Yeah it was kind of implied. They were going to do whatever they want it. And what do you care anyway. The thing i don't understand it's like oh another naked person on the internet. Oh wow that's really original so unheard of. I've never seen a naked person on the internet before boy. This is really going to ruin your career. I mean how's anybody gonna even know about this. I mean it can be hard to find a random porn. Video of a random person is got to be difficult. It's like i mean would seem like finding a needle in a haystack. How do i find unless the random that you know. The porn is tagged with the person's name. And i guess it would be right. If it's revenge porn or something in theory you search for somebody comes to you for a job. You're the human resources person at some corporation and you type their name into google and revenge porn comes up of that person. Does that mean that you don't give that person the job it would've for me. It wouldn't for me either. But i imagine that for some people it probably would well they. That's what they're worried about. But i don't buy it i don't buy it. I don't think it would. I don't think the odds that would come up. I in an internet search of your name. Anyway yeah it. Almost certainly wouldn't something like their twitter or facebook. But we know that. Hr departments don't hire people based on things. They find in people's twitter and facebook but would in hr department actually click on a porn hub length. Time to see if this person who has the same name as even the same person who's applying for the job right and even if the hr person tried to do that would corporate blocks not prevent them from opening george site. It's all very confused. It seems like a lot of concern over something that has a very small odds of actually having any kind of fact like on teen. Yeah that's small for sure so tourney to anna on twitter who presumably is a sex worker websites that violate these requests violate. The federal trade commission acts unfair or deceptive. Act or practice rules. This can lead to a settlement negotiation or a cease and desist order which can result in civil penalties have violated. This creates a situation where legal liability and the cost involved in creating enforcement structures are so strenuous that most social media websites will simply remove not say for it content as opposed to micromanage. It sure who wants to have to deal with all these regulations especially if you don't have a revenue model. Is it this more or less white. Tumbler took down their point section. Just because it was too legally difficult for them. I think so wouldn't surprise. Me as valence pointed out. Not sex workers are documented which makes federal identification requirements near impossible situation for them and compliance would mean trusting the hosting website with all of their personal identification information. What if you make some kind of freaky porn and you know you're wearing a mask or something like that because you don't want people to know who you are you know because it's freaky or whatever or you just know what people know. You're important some people that have a public job. Say there a teacher or something like that and if they got out that they were actually doing porn on the side they'd lose their other jobs see. That's the cultural shift. That needs to happen. Oh no our teacher is having sex. Who would've thought. But i mean like they're doing something that other people that were into porn might find disturbing right like you know some kind of violence or or whatever and now that identify themselves to some sort of website government agency and hope. That website doesn't get more coming up here six. Oh three two eight. Three six one six zero. You can share your thoughts freetalklive nouns towns of for our hairballs have hairballs marquette. 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Now it's just a bill okay. It is. I always like to talk about bills because they haven't passed yet. There's a bunch of crazy stuff that they propose but this isn't unusual this particular piece of legislation. It sounds very much like the. I remember what it was says. The foster that's what it was called the previous set of sex worker. We're going to protect everyone from abuse legislation that did pass and did make life more difficult for honest sex workers that this sort of rings similar bell to that so it's not unbelievable that this particular bill could actually have a chance of passing again. It was introduced by a bipartisan duo. A republican and a democrat and never good when these two different denominations at the state religion worked together. Try and in this case. They're targeting what will be mostly the super majority of the people that'll be harassed by this particular legislation are the honest sex performers who are doing pornography whether it be professional or amateur that want to get their product on these various different porn sites out there now presumably. This is only going to apply to websites that are based in the united states. That's what i was just thinking. What if pornhub just moved their servers to right canada. Well i think they would have to move their home offices and their servers. They'd have to get all their any kind of nexus as the legal terminology if you have a base of some sort within the legal jurisdiction of the united states than they will claim that while. Because you have this nexus now you're subject to this This arbitrary law. Of course we've certainly seen the. Us federal government claim that they're law applies to the entire planet when they've really liked doing that in regard to copyright and crypto currency exchanges. They've been going after they went after an exchange in i forget where one of these island nations or something like that where they thought they would have protection but they didn't Because the federal government got him anyway but What else do we need to know about this. So it would put in an enormous amount of pressure on all websites that host sexual content. Poor hub is obviously just a big target here but other sites like reddit. Patriae on onlyfans. A smaller indecisive would be affected too. It never even occurred to me for that people. Are you know putting porn on patron for their subscribers. I wonder what percentage of patriotic on patron people are poor. What do you call the person who has patrons or the customers performers or creator creators. Terminate us what what portion of their creators are porn. People like tumbler. Craigslist and other services has done many will simply bannock dot contents leaving some people without potential revenue from those channels. I would expect that to be what patriotic chooses to do. If this comes to law i don't know it depends on how big of a chunk of porn segment is. I mean if if half of patron accounts or creator accounts on patriotic porn. Then patrons not gonna want to get rid of them because that's revenue so good point it does mitch foster here. Rafael two thousand eighteen. Many sex workers were d platform despite the laws goal of limiting exploitation. Well that's the way it always happens. Platforms like instagram. Have already begun clamping down on their sex work guidelines to detrimental effect sissies introduction comes at a crucial time inter- internet moderation as a whole is under intense scrutiny at the federal level. I want to know what kind of exploitation are we talking about here. I mean i would like to know a real life example of somebody who is being exploited. And the you know. The product of their exploitation in this case pornograph- pornographic videos of them presumably is being monetize on some sort of you know some sort of major porn site because it would seem to me that like you said earlier if the person's under threat all right so if it's your typical sort of sexploitation human trafficking situation is some teenage girl runs away in europe. She gets you know taken in by some gangsters who then say well. You're going to have sex with us for money and we're going to not kill your parents if you you know if you do what we say because if you don't do what we say we're gonna kill your parents or we'll kill your sister or whatever the you know they find out where the person lives in the family members are and they threaten them and that's the reason why they don't run away right because they can't be being watched all the time right like when everybody's asleep or whatever but what if they get up and run away we'll then they're afraid that their family members are going to be murdered by the gang so they don't run away they just keep performing they keep doing things they've done so if there's somebody who's under the threat of violence or their family members are under the threat of violence then they're likely to fill out whatever the forms are right there likely to just do whatever they're told. Okay now you say this in front of the camera and now you do this and that and we're you know we're approved so are they just having like normal sex on video that makes it relatively indistinguishable from other porn. In which case blake. Why would that attract somebody right like if it's just another girl having sex in a hotel room with some guy on video that's not particularly noteworthy right like it's not. It's not being advertised that this is a sex slave right. It's not being advertised. This girl is being held against her. Will they would get shut down quickly if that were like the headline of the video right because then somebody's going to report that eventually. So what exactly does it look like. When one of these people is being so called exploited on one of these websites excluding revenge porn that that i understand what the objection without but what are the other circumstances. I can't imagine that it's really very lucrative between so much professional porn and so many five minute clips on pornhub there. There is a sea of pornography on the internet. How does one even attempt to stand out in that if they're trying to exploit someone to make money off of them it seems like porn is probably the worst way to go about doing that. They would probably have more luck with prostituting. The girl well maybe they are not that. I'm trying to give them advice. But that is what a lot of them do share. Which is why. I'm curious as to why this is or what somebody would say about. How exactly this works. What's the money you know scheme here because like you say. The traditional means of sex trafficking is to traffic this person for the purpose of sex work with customers not to put them on the internet so everybody can see and have evidence of this person being sex trafficked so it's counter intuitive to put the girl or whoever it is it's being abducted on the internet because now you've got evidence that this person was in a certain place at a certain time whereas if you're just taking her around to rich customers allah jeffrey epstein or something like that then you get paid for every time she turns trick and you don't have video evidence of of that thing happening so it just. It doesn't make much sense if you were going to do like a different type of exploitation like exploiting a child of for underage pornography or something like that again. That's something that's going to get reported. I would think relatively quickly on a public. Major website like pornhub. Now the new york times did an some sort of an investigation and found so called child abuse pornography. And i presume that means child porn on the on the website but again that stuff's going to get taken down relatively quickly. I would presume because somebody's gonna hit the report button. And i can't imagine. Lauren hub is going to pay out money to people who are uploading child. Absolutely not so like. Why would you put if you were going to produce that sort of porn would you put it on pornhub. It doesn't seem like that's going to be a very lucrative way of you. Know monetize ing that sort of thing. Why why can't imagine exploitation actually exists on pornhub simply because of all of these arguments. There's no way for it to be profitable or even even to break even on this nonsense. And why and even with the the revenge porn do people pay to see that with revenge porn. You're trying to get revenge. You're not trying to make money right. Why it doesn't make sense to like You know there's no money to be made in that so like you're putting this thing on the internet you just want people to see it. You're not trying to make money very confusing to me. What's the goal here. Well of revenge porn. I think it would be to embarrass the other party By hey look. This person did porn. And here's a video of her having sex or whatever right beyond that. I don't think there would be a point right so they're not uploading it to make money. No so it's all very strange This particular bill. It's going to create all kinds of regulatory schemes and paperwork requirements as though any of these paperwork requirements. I mean we go back to the. Was it two to five. Seven i think is the code that requires porn producers to. You know if you're like a real porn producer you have to take down ages have signatures photos or whatever documentation. Did that work did that. Stop people from being abused. 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I get interactive at freetalklive dot com Free talk live six zero three two sixty one sixty lsu to join the discussion about l. So far drugs sex talked about tonight on free. Talk live when you weigh in on the good news that we started. Show that the new hampshire supreme court ruled unanimously in favor of a man who was arrested for possession of silla scientic mushrooms. He's out of jail now. As a result of that is he out of jail presumably overturned the conviction shore essentially out on bail. Yeah technically it was remanded to the lower court for some further review. Not real sure exactly what that's going to be. But it was glowing decision by the new hampshire supreme court and then the bad news is that the federal level. There's some note all politicians who've decided that they've up with they've cooked up a new scheme of paperwork requirements for now apparently for amateur pornographers to fill out if they want to make a porn video and put it up on a website like pornhub in order to have that even be allowed to be upload if uploaded. If this bill passes it will require all manner of hoop jumping. I would allow porn to solve this problem. In whatever way they think is best they are after all the experts on this indeed so government bureaucrat. It's never enough though the there's always somebody out there that's being a victim and so therefore government must act and make everybody victim of the state in order to purportedly protect actual victim of some sex trafficker out there this mythological creature which i'm not saying they don't they don't exist. I'm just saying that. I don't think it's it's probably as large of a problem as politicians wanna make it out to be well if even one person is being sex trafficked. It's too many. That's their argument. Well look cook up these grand schemes resulting in more people being sex trafficked like making prostitution illegal. That was to be my point. If you really care about ending sex trafficking which is again the coercion of people into sex services who otherwise might not have wanted to and moving them from place to place or whatever then you would legalize legalize pornography but you would legalize sex work. You would legalize prostitution across the board. Because that's why sex trafficking is even thing is because prostitution illegal. There's a high demand for sex and so somebody's gonna fill that demand just like somebody's going to fill the demand for people to use drugs. There's always a drug dealer out there no matter how many of them get busted by the federal or state governments somebody else steps in to fill their shoes because there's an opportunity there whenever some drug dealer goes to jail. It's just another business opportunity for someone to fill their shoes. Yeah except it's not just a business opportunity because all of this is happening at the black market. Where they don't have they don't have to worry about you. Know fighting things out in a business sense that they have an argument with another drug dealer. We're not talking pfizer versus whatever porna- pseudo company here. We're talking to drug dealers on the streets with guns and shoot it. Yeah as someone's going to die instead of rationality so having prostitution be legal would be a huge change because then this tremendous demand for sex would then be channeled into legal opportunities for people who as we've seen in places like nevada it can be done relatively safely with testing for the you know the participants in the process. You can have sex with the person knowing that there. There's a good chance they don't have any kind of std's because they just got you know tested last week. They can have bouncers on the premises in case some guys. You know some weirdo comes in starts at problem with one of the girls. They just hit. You know. press a button or call out and the bouncer comes in and takes care of the situation. Because that's not gonna happen in the black market where the pimp isn't gonna care. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it does. And i mean as i understand it may have been involved in these things but you know you could have a pimp. That cares. Yeah you might want to protect your girls for instance but there's also pimps that certainly don't care and in the The the free market. If there were one of prostitution there would be range of options for people and then you would really only have sex trafficking in the areas of the people who really do want a slave so like you know. There's you can hire a girl in the sex market to play a slave but there's usually like a safe word or whatever right that sort of ends the ends the play and ends the situation so if you get rid of all of the people that are just seeking normal sex or relatively normal sex then the only thing that the sex traffickers then have left is like children and actual slaves like people who are being held against their will for very rich men who wants to have sex with the person who's being held against their will like that's really the really narrow margin berry. It's i mean. I'm sure that exists out. There sure mostly politicians who are the ones that are the customers in that particular case that that was certainly seemed to be the case. Based on what. We know. If jeffrey epstein indeed i and i suspect i suspect jeffrey epstein is the tip of a very ugly iceberg. Just a bit little part that we've been able to see be revealed publicly. I bet it gets much darker and much worse than of course it does their politicians which means they decided that what they want to do with their lives is half power over others. That's what they want out of life what we're talking about. In regard to this sex trafficking stuff is people who have power directly over other people's lives. They want a sex slave for the same reasons. They wanna be politicians. They want control over. Someone is addicted to those probably an aphrodisiac them. Yeah it's something they get off on for sure so if you wanna comment six oh three two eight three sixty one sixty s other going to you know. They haven't passed it yet but they're they're looking at some new bill. That's going to require all manner. Paperwork indicated the same nonsense a few years from now and eventually they're going to pass it or those into another covid nineteen relief package and no one will ever question because that's the only way a lot of this crap past monday in the first place. These bills kept being presented. But they kept getting voted out but slipping into the stimulus. Package and suddenly everyone voted. Yes yeah and remember. Joe biden is a tough on crime hawk. He's he's like people think he somehow different from donald trump or donald trump certainly. He's a game about law and order. Yeah i mean. The trump talked to a good game about law and order et cetera et cetera. He's pandering to the right. But biden was one of the key drug warriors back in the day and so was his vice president. Yes com camera harris or kamala or whatever Harris absolutely she was in a g attorney. Genital in california. i mean. She laughed about convicting people for pot possession and destroying people's families and livelihoods because of those right and us harmless things. Now she wants to legalize. Has she undone any of those conviction doubt it. I don't know she legally can. She asked the current to undo them. Doubt it what she's vice president. She can't ask her president. Joe biden to pardon all of those people. But hey tells me. She won't ask him to do that and he won't do it right. I already heard that. Apparently black lives matter. The official organization of black lives matter has reached out to joe biden to try to have a conversation with them and they won't return their calls. I'm not surprised he's a politician. And what did they expect. He's not just a politician. He's about to beat the most highest ranking priests in the state religion he's far beyond the reach of u normal people with your silly little concerns about getting shot by police. Yeah they thought they were gonna have some. They'd be have the ear of the president if they helped elect him in turns out now. Well i'm glad they're learning this lesson eventually eh before. He's even taken office in this particular case unless you donated a few million dollars to his campaign he doesn't have time for you and even then a few millions probably just the you might get an actual response from an email or something but unless you've done a couple of hundred million i wouldn't expect for joe biden to give you much time for face to face conversation. Join us on the phone number. Six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty. Whatever you want to weigh in on you can do that. Let's go in a different direction. Here we've talked about drugs. We've talked about sex now. Let's talk about entertainment in specifically the newer form of entertainment on twitch which. We're on right now. Toyota dot dot fm so hello to any viewers out there. There's something that's apparently changed in recent months with twitch regarding copyright and the the broadcasting of music that has some sort of copyright attached to it it used to be on twitch that you could play it a tune or a series of of music and you could stream it live and there'd be no problem and then after the fact they would mute your stream so they have a program that they're they're running the reviews all of the archival streams and and says. Oh there's this song over here this over here mute mute and then they just they mute like the five or six minute window that the song takes up your stream. You still have the video on the on the track. There's just no audio there. And it has a little message that says tracks men muted or the audio has been muted due to copy writer. Whatever what changed. Was that a lot of major record. Labels discovered that people had used their music on twitch and they submitted just massive amounts of requests to twitch to take out all these videos so many that twitch couldn't really respond to them all probably tens of thousands if not millions of these letters from angry attorneys representing major record companies. And just like all right well shotgun everything now is what they apparently according to the story here at ars technica twitch now. This was written actually last month. I've had my show prep for weeks. But both streamers so be gigabytes. Talk about it. They recently apologized to their users for how they handled this copyright. Crackdown that. you're talking about. That happened back in october. But the site told streamers the dais they still have to stop using copyright recordings to avoid further takedown notices. 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You dial in at this non toll free number six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty six hundred three two eight three six one six zero with you tonight. It's ian and reo so we've been talking about media here in the last hour or so. Initially were discussing sex workers online and government requirements. That may be coming down on them to make their life more difficult supposedly in the name of protecting sex trafficking victims which is ridiculous and now twitch the internet streaming giant that kicked off their business they came around and like twenty eleven or something like that. They've been around for almost a decade and dot very very popular a few years after that with this whole internet streaming video game play phenomenon that is really turned into quite a phenomenon We were discussing gaming last night and this is one aspect of video gaming that really has caught on and where people will just watch another person play game rather than play it themselves. Made me realize that i have never actually watched eight livestream. No one playing a video game even though you have streamed video games watched it. I've watched some. After the fact. Like a super mario brothers speed ryan was one night or something like that. That's true i did. Yeah i know you decide even count. I think it counts if you watch a person whether you know them or not. I wouldn't have watched. If i didn't know you right so you've done okay. Sure that capricorn. Yeah yeah. I did that one night. That's how i got into it. I once or twice. And i wouldn't say into it. That's how i the first time. I watch somebody playing a game on stream. It was someone that i knew. Okay and. That was shortly after that that i decided. Hey we ought to be on this thing to just because there's a large audience there there is and it doesn't take a lot of work to set up and occasionally slip out some libertarian principles or something if you happen to be able to work into the conversation yeah absolutely and you know when twitch or if you're just watch the chat argue about my gender for two and a half hours still not over yet but in the case of twitch just sort of like this innocent thing where people play video games on the internet and you know they obviously would they wanna make it big i'm sure a lot of them wanna be a major streamer and make it into their job but you know there's millions literally millions of the people who are on twitch are actually streamers i looking at you the numbers and looking into twitch. I was surprised by what the portion of their user base is. That actually performs that actually are the streamers like. It's a large chunk. i it's not. It's this tiny minority of performers and everybody else watches. It's a lot of people who are the users of the system that are actually streamers to some extent or another show. That doesn't mean that they've caught on or are popular in any way shape or form but it is a way for them to you know build some level of a small community of followers and and it's a way for people who sadly are kind of disconnected from one another in and i'm talking about before twenty twenty right so we're twenty. Twenty is taken everything to a new level but you know prior to twenty twenty. We were already becoming sort of a population that is more technological and more tech nafid rather than previous generations. We've seen statistics on the youth in america being less likely to hang out with each other in real life and instead quote unquote hang out on an app or something like that you know it used to be kids go to the mall back in the nineteen eighties or the nineties on a friday night or hang out at their friend's house or go to a concert or whatever and those things don't happen as much you know prior to twenty twenty days because social media and snapchat and all of these other places that they scratch the itch for them. I guess to me. You can't replace real life. Interactions with with online. But i'm not a member of the millennial or the xenical generation or generations year. Whatever you wanna call them. I am but i mean it's it's a balancing act riot if i want to go out and do something with friends person. I'm going to go out and do something with france personally. Do that fairly often way. More than i would expect for. Someone who just historically is a loner And very shy around groups of people but hey things change. And i guess that's true but yeah but even then you know if it's four o'clock in the morning and i want to socialize. You can usually find someone to interact with online. Yes yeah and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But during those times when i want to actually socialize with someone and other people are available to socialize with in person. That's the way to go. Yeah absolutely but you know what the reality is. People were going in this direction. People are going in this more lona fide world or whatever whether it's crap isn't real though no it's just an illusion of interacting with another human being you're not interacting with another human being you're interacting with a piece of technology and on the other end presumably you're enter another human being is interacting with their technology but there is no human to human interaction in it. It's just an illusion. Well i mean it's not human-to-human in that there is a thing in between you but there is a human on the other end of the thing and then there's another human on the other side but there was another for phone calls as well though but there are no substitute for an axe. No i'm not saying. I'm not saying there for anything like that. And the difference with a phone call is when you're on a phone call. It's two people typically. It's one person and the other person on the other line. So you usually. Unless the person's distracted with something have their full attention with a twitch stream. It's not that way. So and i and i forget the word for it. It's a somebody mentioned it. It was actually on like one of the. What is it. The the the the reviews movie reviews on on lamps forgetting the name. I don't get me started trailer with us. It was honest trailers. Okay i get. You started on that in a second here. They use the term. And i'm sorry i don't remember. I wish i could remember what it was. But it described a relationship that is essentially one sided where you have the streamer who the larger. They get the less attention. They can pay to the people in their chat room right right. So ladies trove rochman says well. Interestingly what inspired pink floyd to write the album the wall is that they notice that they were this huge stadium ben now. They're disconnect between the fans in themselves was too great for them. The bridget yeah and and so it describes a relationship quote unquote where the person who is. The watcher believes that they have some sort of connection to the person they're watching. And we hear this all the time with with Listeners to freetalklive. They'll say things like oh i feel like i know you but they do acknowledge that we couldn't know who they are because they're just listeners. So at least with the radio listenership thing. There's that sort of break in between where there's no illusion that the person who's on the radio knows anything about you as the listener. You're just listening. We're in your don't even know. they exist. Row do naked in his bathroom dude. Thanks for listening. But yeah they so they know they still have the reality about them about what's going on but on on a platform like twitch or d. life. There's this sort of photo interaction that is that is purported right like the whole night. People are so obsessed with whether or not we read the chat. Yes and that's what they say. When you're first starting into streaming is pay attention to the chats interact with your viewers because you want them to feel like they are a part of the whole thing of the show or your life or whatever was kind of a nip. Yah live but that's what they're doing though right like they they are whether they're intentionally manipulating is another question. But but they. They are sort of manipulating people in the idea that they're creating this quote unquote community of one sided relationships. And again i somebody should shout this term out. Because i'm somebody knows what. Somebody's shouting at their radio right now. Like whatever this word is but essentially describe at one guy in his bathroom as sure. Shouting it describes this a relationship. That's not really relationship basically. It's a person who on one end believes that they have some sort of relationship with this other person and the other person barely knows that they exist. Oh i've seen your name in the chat room but or you know they'll acknowledge. Hey so and so like this is the thing they do on the streams right. They'll say hey you know. Tv steven hayes stain on your so for these people that are chatting in our our twitching and d live chat rooms like when you're watching one of these streams that happens constantly staying on the so. That's the person that's creative. I like says a says this person's nude right now actually apparently anyway. Yeah so so anyway just to sort of acknowledging that there there is really you know all the larger streamers can even do because how could you possibly talk on any sort of meaningful basis with a busy chat room like if you can't if you and i are streaming we have relatively small viewership like are a big night on twitch for us is twenty viewers and only a fraction of them going to type in the chat room. So we're likely to see everything that you say but if the chat starts going by fast if there's two hundred people in there or two thousand there's no meaningful anything can happen. There's more coming up our check. His co. is very sick. he's an akita. German shepherd lab husky mix heralds the border collie mix cats beautiful jet black coats. Stuart my rat. Terrier has now where he never had it before. The i n. o. V. i t. e. dot com dignfied. We'll give them a beautiful lustrous coach. It will make you smile. 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You can do that by connecting with them directly on their telegram channel at divvy project dot org. That's d. I v. i. project dot org so got the the word i was looking for that i heard for the very first time but apparently was actually coined in the nineteen fifties is a para social relationship and here is a story about it from the drum dot com is actually kind of depressing stream something lately because prior to the sheriff campaign derailing everything stream fairly often did. But now i'm looking i'm like man. I don't wanna really feed into that. That manipulation of people to create this fake sort of relationship. Yeah it is interesting. Like you know to me. The reason i i was doing some streaming which i haven't done i mean obviously we're streaming now right but short of we're talking about gaming streaming. Yeah yeah we had this we've had this show streaming since before twitch even existed so twists more. We're doing a show. We might as well put it on this platform correct and my thought of the game streaming was. Well i if. I'm going to play a video game. Which almost never do. But if i'm going to play a video game i might as well play it on a stream so therefore someone could find that and then they would find our radio show so to me. I just saw sort of saw it as a an outreach tool to bring people in to say hey this is the thing we really do over here and again. I haven't done a video game stream since july. So you can tell. I don't do it. That often But you know at the lower levels you can have a interaction with some of these people are not a real relationship like you and i were talking about where you can make eye contact and have a human some human level of relationship but as you start growing with your success. There's just no way you can keep up with the growth. I mean you can hire a manager to read all your chats more. You're not interacting with the manager right and look the fact is you're playing a video game that is in grossing. Then you really can't read a chat at the same time as playing an engrossing game if it's a turn based game where it's like. Okay you go with your turns. The computer plays its turns. And you're sitting. You're waiting on a lot of stuff. Then you've got plenty of time you can used civilized through a chat there. But if you're doing a first person shooter where there's very little downtime except when you die if you're playing like an online version is very little that you can do to even if you try to have some sort of interaction. It's challenging at best with a busy chat room but let me just describe a little bit about this term so again para social it's Is the name of the or is the word in question here. So asks this article at the drudge dot com talks about talking about twitch it is written by m j would dumps car back in may of this year. Have you ever call yourself forming a bond with an online creator. Maybe you were watching their film review on youtube and thought it'd be cool to grab a beer with them. Perhaps you've followed their makeup tutorial and felt like they're speaking directly to you. I did this in fact Many years ago with jim sterling who also actually lived in mississippi. He's a game review guy but he was also reading my blogs at the time of follow me on twitter so we knew you existed. Yeah it wasn't as weird. It's just me being a random person but it was the same sort of thing where i liked his video so i don't follow them. Yeah yeah that's a little bit different though right because you he knew existed so that's eventually but he didn't at first i okay and i never felt like he was addressing me directly in his videos or anything like that. That have been lonely. I'm generally i want company. I can go out and get up right. I suspect that people can these people. They just choose not to write. This is a substitute for real. Interactions them and it's completely one sided. And that's the weird part about this or the sick part if you want to look at it that way so you know maybe you feel like they're speaking directly to you in their makeup tutorials sharing details of their day while teaching you how to blend shadow perhaps you replied to their instagram and got a bit annoyed that they never wrote you back. She says so. We're talking also stalkers here right. If any of these scenarios sound plausible. You're already familiar. With the concept of paris social relationships the term itself was coined in the nineteen fifties to describe interactions between tv personalities and viewers in a nutshell nutshell. It's a one-sided connection you know they exist they don't know that you do para social relationships aren't new. But these one-sided interactions have really come to thrive on social media. There's an illusion of access to your favorite creator. Which is what. I was saying is different about us. Being on the radio versus what they're describing here people feel like they can access us when they chat with us in the twitch rooms or the matrix server or just adding us on twitter or facebook or mastodon or whatever yeah that would be a factor there but in that case you know we really are in those chat rooms and we really can't well. You're not on our matrix serve yet. I don't think. But but i'm there and if somebody tags me i will see it but then again yeah. It's element is the name of the app. You wanna get. I might actually join at some point then but again that is also a factor because it is relatively small server. If this were hundred thousand users. There'd be no way. I could spend any amount of time trying to parse parse through what you know whatever tags that That i were hit with. So there's a chance that says it says you're they're not quite a kardashian so you might just get through to them. There's a chance they'll reach your comment and even respond if you follow them on youtube tiktok twitter and instagram. You'll probably hear from them more often than you do from your actual friends. And then there's the hours and hours of content online creators job is to produce constantly their fans constantly consume and get invested in the process. It's not hard to believe. You really know someone when you've spent tens or hundreds of hours interacting with them but you're not getting their real self. It's just their social media persona broadcast to you and millions of other viewers worldwide hundreds of hours watching people's content. That's that's scary in and of itself. Oh god are that's what these sites are based on the twitch viewers. I mean they are fanatical about. I'm not like we can't talk about all of them. I'm sure are casual. But you know a lot of these people are in these chatrooms every single night watching their favorite producer or creator create. Whatever they're doing you know whether it be hit a hoppy dudes. This is their hobby. That's not a hobby that's voyeurism. Yeah that is incredibly popular. Now i that's what twitches made their bones off of here so i i just don't see the appeal of wanting to watch someone else live their life instead of just going out and living your life. I mean for certain small niche reasons. I get it like when i watched your stream or whatever but to do that day in a day to you know you could just play that video game yourself right or you can go to a bar and hanging out with people. That's what you wanna do or whatever why not do these things yourself instead of watching someone else do it. I say this as people are watching us on alert in dot twitch twitch eller right now of course. So i don't i don't get it. Why would you wanna watch us all right call it. Hopefully we're entertaining. That's why you'd wanna watch us true. And that's the reason why. 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Any topic We we can talk about as long as it's not appealing to appropriate interest. There's there's another. Fcc rule that does say that you really can't pander sort of the lowest common denominator of sexual talk well. We generally don't do that. We don't we. Don't do this or like you can't call in and tell us about your latest sexual encounter in graphic detail that god for that. We can't go on the air but the issue you want to discuss we. Can we can do that. In fact we invite that. And that's what we like here on free talk live. We're going to go to your phone calls and thoughts. We are talking about the idea of a so-called para social relationship the idea that there's a sort of this illusory illusion of a relationship between say a streamer and the viewer of that stream on a site like twitch we're gonna talk about copyright but we ended up just talking about sort of the the psychology and sociology or whatever if it's a bit depressing ch- a bit manipulative but but it's popular. I mean is it wrong to fill demand that people have no. I don't think it's right. I don't think it's wrong. What these dreamers are doing. I don't think that anybody in the world of streaming is doing it to abuse people or to take advantage. I mean there may be some that are taking advantage. But i think they honestly just want. They probably want the attention right like well. That's why eighty-one creates thing ultimately is because they want the attention or they want the money that comes with the attention. See like for me. I don't wanna be a star or anything like that. I prefer to be behind the camera. I prefer to be the editor. I prefer to be somebody who is creating something that is consumed but not the focus of that and i realized that it's a strange thing to say as as somebody who's hosting a radio show but sort of you don't wanna be the one in the crosshairs essentially right. Well i'm in the crosshairs. Because i'm an activist. The government's going to go after me because of what i do but i can do my activism a variety of different ways. But to me like i don't want to become popular because then i get all kinds of attention. I really don't want that attention. I don't want to like right now. I've got emails that. I can't get to already that don't have to do with. Luckily i don't get very many emails related to the show. Thank goodness because i already have a ton of other things to deal with like for the business side of running free talk. Live of getting on your radio stations and you know doing bitcoin outreach. Here in the area. I literally have a ton of things to do right now. I can't even. I can't even get all the things done that i need to do in one day. There's no chance that if you know that. Got bigger that i would be able to handle that and i don't want to hire an assistant because of what you were saying earlier. It's not even me responding at that point. So there's a certain level that That that i can handle. And i'm pretty much to that level so i have no interest in garnering more attention but i see all taste of it this year and i don't i don't want the sheriff's campaign. Yeah yeah it's overwhelming. It's obnoxious everything you tweet. Everything you post will get put under a microscope. And it's it's not worth look. I can take the microscope right. Like i've been on the air for a long time. I've been a blogger and activist for for a long time. So that doesn't bother me so much but ultimately the goal for me is just get the word out about freedom you know and you do that if you have a larger audience that's correct so that's that's ultimately the goal but i don't care if they know who i am you know. That's why one of the reasons why i'm on the radio because you know i'm not with the exception of twitch now. In the old days we weren't on video riley radio show so you don't have the same sort of star power or whatever and i'm not interested in that stuff if you want to weigh in you can hear we're gonna go to robert. He's on online line in vermont. Robert you're on our new phone line. Six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty go ahead. I hate that story. You're talking about that. That brings brings me back to Limit the movie that truman show love that movie. You know that's what. I was thinking about all that kind of funny. Don't show aria. I have for listeners. That aren't familiar. It is Jim carey from the late nineteen nineties. It was really his. I kind of breakout role. Because prior to the truman truman show he was like a comedian. That was the funny slapstick gag comedies. And then he just became the serious actor the he proved that he could be a serious actor was all about a guy who was raised in a tv show that essentially designed around him and the show included a bunch of actors who he thought were his real parents and real friends but it was all just a show and he was the star. Unwittingly of this sort of real life drama. Basically it was interesting has some really disturbing implications to it really did. It was really pretty deep movie. But what else did you wanna share tonight. Oh we just want to call. This is that i wanted to is a story. That came out of key new hampshire have any dog in this race. But i'm from this state bought. It seems that the city council is back at it again. They wanna take property over on Winter street and key roads. They want to take the sonoko station. And then they wanna take the other building on the other side what is it to portray or something like that they want. Yeah aaa andy senecas station. They don't want to take the entire properties they wanna take like three or four feet for one but the bigger issue is is going to cause both of these places to lose to very high. Traffic entrances to their places of business is going to make it very very difficult for people to get in and out of them for a convenient store so they wanna add a traffic circle ratings on land. That is the plan. The better plan would be to move the walmart to somewhere else because the walmart is what is creating all of the high traffic. Feel it. It's a busy area. I mean whether there's a walmart sitting in that spot or a grocery store or whatever there's going to be a high chair traffic count going in and out that place. It's a very poorly. Here's one thing that could help and obviously we're getting into the weeds on a on. A local issue but eminent domain is the real thing and it's a real concern for listeners. That are familiar and robert. Thanks for the call tonight. I appreciate it for listeners. That aren't familiar. Eminent domain is where the government gang says. We have decreed that this property is more useful to us than it is to you and we are going to take it and do what we what with it and basically they don't just take the property. They do make a quote on quote offer of what they believe the properties valid one of these property owners was offered like eighty dollars for what he said he wants to take for them from. That's i'm saying it's the city that determines what the property is valued at and even if they weren't going to lose a busy entrance to their places of business eighty dollars slap of as any amount of plan. Yeah that was really what it was. One of them was offered flight. Four thousand the other one was offered eighty want who has offered eighty must have really made them angry. That is in the face and then it was the kilo court decision. The supreme court decision in two thousand and five that ruled that governments can use eminent domain for just a public purpose like building a road but that they can actually take your property for the purposes of giving it to a private developer. Now is that a federal court ruling the court of the federal government that ruled that eminent domain can be used for the benefit of private property owners. Presumably not in new hampshire because new hampshire's constitution has something about imminent specifies. It has to be public use. Well that's the old statement about eminent domain. And what they said. Don't support it either way right. But what the supreme court said in two thousand five was that the public use could also mean that if the public quote unquote which is another term for government if the government gets more tax dollars out of the new use after the eminent domain. Then it's okay. Which is why. They took the property from the property owners in new london connecticut. Back in two thousand and five they took properties from people that had had these properties in their families for generations built a massive mega-complex pfizer and some other corporations then pfizer pulled out of the deal and the whole thing fell apart and they stole all these people's properties for what will ultimately ended up being failed government. work network project was really tragic and it changed. What use eminent domain. for for. good more coming up. this is the onion in reviewed sources are confirming. Your dog died earlier today. And we're all really sorry you had to find out about it like this buddy though. 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19: "Christmas Vacation" w/ Sean Mckinney

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19: "Christmas Vacation" w/ Sean Mckinney

"All right everybody. We are here on hitman that ice and me the holiday edition and we are doing national lampoon's christmas vacation and i have on the phone right now. With me is sean mckinney and is an avid fan of well. National lampoon's christmas vacation. And john are you there. You have been thoroughly excited about doing this. Show glad you're thoroughly excited. Because i've i've taken a little hiatus. I did take it because it's the holidays and we are discussing a movie about the holidays and i before i get into this. I want to tell everybody if you are an avid listener. And you enjoy listening to please go to all of you have an iphone or you have android if you can find apple podcasts. Or do the the purple. Podcasts emblem on your phone and to hit mandates in me and leave a review. Leave any kind of review. Leave five zarley three-star leave any kind of star because any kind of star helps this program get up in a little bit and so yeah. Just do that and if you do that that would help me out but as for now. Let's get into talking about national lampoon's christmas vacation now sean. Would you say this is your favorite christmas movie of all time or is ranked in there within the top three actually use pretty much said it is one of my top three. If not the number one. I would say all other movies like a christmas story. That's a good one for our family. It is and probably say the first two movies. Actually yeah. i'm more of a fan of one. Two's bed but it was definitely like i. You know everyone knows the first one is. It's like background noise at this point. Yeah but everybody has interesting opinions about the second one you know. It's it's basically like the ghostbuster to where it's almost the same. Exact watt going step-by-step. however. I've always had thought about court. In fact i have more memories of the second one in the first. Maybe it's got a nostalgic cold on me. But i would almost even say the second one's my favorite overall over for home alone but what about the second national lampoon's christmas vacation is at your favorite. No that is what we call a very bad dake on his relation. Yes i was straight to. Dvd you can find it at the bottom of your five dollar being at your local walmart. Probably around this. Maybe maybe maybe they don't even care. There are no. It's yeah there's nothing like a sequel to a sequel. But i remember shows. Is this for real movie right. Yeah you couldn't get enough of that guy will start about the well not the sequel but well it is the sequel to many national lampoon's movies which i think they did a they stuck. Well no it's actually a third one because they did vacation than they did. European vacation this one. So it's not really the sequel. It's more or less with trilogy away. But no. Because i made vegas and i couldn't really find a way to classify these. I know you can't really call them sequels. They don't really continue in the traditional sense. They just have their stories their stories based on a family but as any normal family they will actually change. There's this lynch change. We've talked about this onto like how are we gonna bring this up and all the other ones on every movie basically all the children are different and there were has been reasons why that actually happened and this is more like scheduling because rusty who. Actually he got younger for this film. And as opposed to being the older one in the previous ones. And that's a little known fact on this one. It's because Julia louise no no. I keep messing up. Keep confusing juliette. Lewis was julia louis. Dreyfus i keep mixing those two. Yeah so yeah. That's a little bit all over with that one with the kids but if you haven't seen this It's it's kind of hard to believe. That actually is kind of hard to believe the. Nobody's ever would have seen this movie is it seems like it's on. It's i think it's all like maybe three or four different stations right now currently. It's kinda hard to believe that this is. i mean. Nobody's seen this cole. Classic because it's it's been on for a majority of like my teenage years to buy grown up life and it's one of the movies that i've see almost it's tradition for me to see this movie For you shown over its way for you or not what goes into my top. Three is definitely something. I can't give a year without watching. No yes this is definitely a a classic to reemerge myself into. And do you have christmas sweaters like clark or de ugly. Know but you drink eggnog. From couple and they do. You don't wear onesie like any you. I is emptying the the again i mean. He passion more. And then. I can't say i'm not jealous of that outfit. But i never was able to find one emmett. Jc penney. i think we sell those on the national lampoon's actual site. They sell like some of the stuff that eddie wears. I read that as well like you can buy the ones i think you can actually buy like a moose health and yeah. It's pretty pretty interesting i did. I did a fair amount of my research. But i mainly based off of the years and years that i've seen this movie but i've also had my notes but we didn't do a little synopsis. It's basically our griswald basically lobes this mess. And he just wants to have the perfect christmas with his family and things go. Awry and unexpected. Guess is typical typical. Christmas stuff but little over exaggerated some. But that's what makes it funny and chevy chase makes it funny as he's he's a comedic religion and his own and so that was shitty synopsis on my part. Would you want to add anything on that. I actually read that It's supposed to be an exaggerated message of the norman rockwell's manley It's supposed to be like a perfect christmas. Oh around and that's what parks going for. Basically throughout the film i mean to be honest i kinda. That's kind of how i always wanted christmas to be. Just a big family get together. Which and i kind of relate to him in a weird strange kind of way and you know i see what he wants and i kind of feel like i want him to have it to do so i mean just everything gets in his way like does i mean there are quite a bit of the hang and there's yeah there's i mean gosh. I'm drawing a blank but yeah it's been i. I watched the reasonably. You gave it to me. And i borrowed it. I watched it i did. I fell asleep towards the end. But i know what happens at the end up seeing so many times i was just tired. It's it is one of my. It's one of my top stories. Then i'd go scrooge d- i like screws is like bill murray and then i'd have to say home alone so those are my top three. There is definitely an interesting too. I mean i like that it is. It is a retake on a classic tale. Everybody should know it got bill. Murray planning out about his brother has older brother. You know in different movies including this one join a blank on his name. But brian doyle murray right and i actually just found that out the other day thanks to you and once you said that i look at his face now and i'm like yeah i can see the resemblance and i dunno chord with me. And he's been in. Then you realize how many movies he's been in with has been a lot of different things though. Yeah who's in caddyshack groundhog day world. Wayne's all know he would. Bill murray wasn't in wayne's world. You're talking about the brother. Oh no no. But they were in the movies. They were in together. And so yeah. Yeah he was. In wayne's world the e taking the role of of noxious g oss the ways. He definitely likes taking the lead of being in control that being hated like as he definitely has a role in this movie he plays. Frank shirley clark's boss and clark actually works and a food additive. Ease looks like he's corporate but he creates food additives. What kind of a weird mix of things if you. I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that this is about. I think the only time other than in the movie biggest vacation where they talk about what he does for a living. If i remember correctly within european which a minute but it is certainly a strange career choice to put in any film or anything like that in unique. I'll give them credit. I'm wondering because like i. I looked at the math on the bonus that he wants to fulfil his christmas present to his kids and the math on that is used to get a eleven thousand dollar bonus and he supposedly to get that eleven thousand eleven thousand dollars. He's supposed to make around five hundred and fifty thousand a year. So hundred thousand a year is there like before or after growth It's after. I think so. I'm like what does what does he really do. Like part time mafia. I think it's quite a bit like you had to make that much to get that bonus to from along stories about how they can afford things. You know what i'm saying. It's chicago knows what's going on but yes. I looked at the math on that. Because i was curious that hey it's how much does it actually cost like you. You figure because he said like oh. I'm gonna fly you guys build a pool and then you're making five hundred k. Year five hundred thousand then going to check his is nothing that pocket change. Yeah i mean they should already have pool and they probably should have to ensure they should be living on no the lane with mr shirley but then how much does mr surely make. That's what i wanna know that. So yeah that's that was the estimated. I'm not sure math right. I went to turn it. Is i went to google and i was like. Hey and hopefully google knows what they're talking about but grow. I don't know man. I sure they're listening to me right. Now 'cause i gotta go home and it's like yeah trey here. It was really here by the mike. And it's like yeah. I don't know about that. They they don't on the land Yes okay i'll i'll manifest goule me. Please accept yes. They'll be like. Take that shit down. Because we don't want our company on the stooges that's my google. Good publicity was the worst impression of any kind of a conglomerate tech company person. Here's isn't gonna be crime because you're making fun of the exact way he talks yash nailed it in a world of like any kind of cartoon customers. They're talking about school. Who knows who knows. But i guess do we Are we done. I don't know we didn't really do as an opposite as on that kind. Get the idea. I'm kinda just hope when people have seen this movie to not say yeah and is shown every single year all the way up christmas. Maybe little movie theaters last year with my daughter. Actually the first movie ever took her to and they they also had a playing this year to buy whatever everything's going on. That's the other thing. I think we will. If you haven't seen this you might enjoy this movie. This year with everything is gone but Yeah as christmas might be in a bubble all. We know this year. So wear your masks. That's all i'd say. But anyways i'm not going to get along with that we can keep your keep your distance and hug from six feet away and yes air hugs narrowed to fives and yes sanitize air. Fives sanitize as this new show. But yeah we can get into. Do the tagline showed them are you. I'm ready i am ready. But they're not the greatest. I think i'm gonna say my best one for live all right. Do you want me to break. The awkward is of saying basically a dad joke to one audience member and open. They less as. I am ready for that yet. We we actually been telling jokes back and forth prior to the whole thing at work. And i just want to bring that up because like we we. We are pretty good with our dad jokes. I liked it better when we actually told them to each other. And i enjoying that very much yet so anyways cures the first one christmas vacation wash this timeless classics to bring them back their good feeling. Good old christmas feeling that we've come to lost. That's that's dead air one. I'm going to say this is a quote from the movie. But i'm going to say In the way you say it all right in the way. I say awkward or the movie and then continue from there. Take us what it's worth -cation where we hope you all have a happy happy christmas bing crosby tap dance with danny spot is wait when he was pissed. I know that one. I was telling the audience to have a happy tap. Dance the christmas vacation. It was christmas before zoom. Yeah i'm i'm bringing back. Social distancing tried to do a full circle on that. If it doesn't work. If i have to tell the joke i realize that in comedy so i'm trying to explain in my experience. I'm very awkward when it comes to telling bad jokes do you start. It's definitely a christmas bonus. You won't find in your stocking all right. I like that one. That deserves a palm grisly. Haitian what it's like to not wait on. I think i came over here when i came up with this one. I think very late at night. And i was like yeah. That sounds good. Fell back asleep. So i should have edited my actual job but Christmas vacation what. It's like to not drink eggnog. In a bubble all right. I'll do you guys know anything is kind of. Here's here's another little was kind of close here all right one. You got your last one. Is this little i am. I mean i want a yeah. That was pretty much broke. The is on the bad ones. So this is all you know christmas vacation with a turkey. Dinner is dry trees on fire and the shitter full. I like that one and is a good one. I think you win. What is nice applause. Thank you thank you. We can get into some. Let's break into our. He will do. This'll be random. Facts brought to you by and me with a rating of seven point. Six out of ten and sixty eight percent on rotten tomatoes is christmas vacation. The best movie ever. I guess that's more of a question but Yeah i mean that seems like seems pretty low for maybe i'm boosting it up. Maybe i just had this idea ahead is the greatest one and i don't know maybe some people don't like it but i really wanted to ask him like. Is this one. This one is better than i hope. You're not thinking of christmas vacation to all i had to ask is do not compare those two a they're not to say The clark randt after receiving his bad news was brought in to its entirety with alba. Chevy chase's coast are they. All were cue cards around their necks for chevy to remember his lines. There ain't goes as follows you. I actually printed out the email that you gave me. Let's see let me let me see if i can do this. One in one take. Oh man Are in on. This is what j. clark says to his. If any of you were looking for any last minute gift ideas. I have one. I'd like frank shirley my boss right here tonight. I want him brought here his heavy holiday over there on melody lane all of his other rich rich people and i am brought right here the vigrid. I want to straighten the i. I wanted to tell him what keep lying. No good rotten. Four flushing lowlifes snake dirt. Eating inbred overstep figuring bloodsucking kissing. Dick lists hopeless fans bug-eyed stiff legged spotty. Spotty tipped word headed second monkey. Shit he is holly you hallelujah. Where's the towel as one of the most isolated thing you've ever seen cinema. How can you not love that. And the fact that yeah. I like the fact that he actually said all that. With the help of cue cards on the around the actress necks. And you can. You can actually see him looking and each actor as he goes through the lines like you see him to head. Turn as he's saying this like if you when i gave you re or and you can actually see that so pretty cool though. That is now so he probably used to reading cue cards pretty pretty well so Oh yeah. I did mention for clark to get his full. You have to have eleven thousand dollar bonus and for him to get the bonus he would have to make around five hundred thousand a year. So there's that one fact do you have used a. You have quite a bit of acts we will probably you probably get into a few of your facts and then take a quick short little break and then come back but let me hear your facts. And then we'll take a little break after. Gimme gimme about how many roughly. How many do you think you have. Okay so yeah the neighbor the neighbors. They live right next to happens to be the same. How they used in lethal weapon murtaugh tau resides in the warner brothers studio. I believe and then. I told you that he was actually an ex. Clark actually lives in bewitched. Yeah because it was also the universal lot. Like you said yeah. That's a school that So the neighbor. You're saying margo in todd right. That's where everything is all messed up and be good. Old icicle through the window line comes in is is the carpet. Alway are they say. I don't know talk. just fuck line. Not mark did reverse them everybody. Everybody good gag. Yeah actually now make sweaters. Where says i says why all wet todd and then. I don't know margo so little moments like that in movies. It's just it's a little thing but you remember it. It's a good line. There's a lot of small little one liners interlaced throughout this may account. Yeah they were. Put a tree though rig Than jitters full got that one he says is everybody apparently because he's said that line twice and that scene away said it's like he says merry christmas chitter tall actually the second time so i mean he says it like he's been saying everybody if you see in the background like two people walking past so i almost wonder if there was a scene where he said i doubt it either friendly guy is just not that bryce yeah i mean. He is entering emptying sewage into a storm drain. But any of the world s okay. You're i realize you're telling me not to hate on. I'm sorry it's your eddie has an quite yeah. I'm gonna have to refer to when they act akins his kids are. We're told that the santa wasn't coming because they couldn't afford any gifts for them. I gotta say that's pretty add polish. Yeah that's that's the for me. I mean you can elise i mean yeah you got to be a good parent especially around christmas in writing that young. Say that santa's dot coming. I mean i. i'm. I'm a father myself with like an easy on. And he's at that age where it's just like everything is amazed into him like he's an. Yeah so it's like. I guess that is that is. The one is not bright but yeah he does is. I think we'll him. An clark are both assholes. Yeah who's has. Clark eddie is related to Is not related well. His cousin eddy is his wife's cousin. Right i can't remember the name. She's married she's her ellen sister What's her name or catherine patron. Yeah allen sister. Catherine was miriam. Flynn i got it all volvo. Breyer ellen ellen yeah okay. I don't know why couldn't think of her name. And and then i guess yeah we're a pop into a little little break and then we'll be right back and finish up the facts and then i got a little quiz for you before we enter into movie police but we'll do something accident comeback and then i'm gonna take a little break. We'll do some facts. And i'll quiz and we'll get on with the what i think. There's a lot of laws broken in this film. That we i mean we know one which ellen actually lies about. But we'll she's she says is never happened before but if you seen these movies it's happened more than once Well yeah we'll get into that later but We're gonna pop into a little bit of a little bit of a break and then we'll be right back out good. If you haven't heard about anchor it's easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. 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Came out in one thousand nine hundred nine and there was only one other christmas movie. That came out there in that time. And that was prancer starring johnny galaxy who has actually rusty in this film so into christmas films at year. Back to back but the only christmas films that year. But sean you you have some facts as well as i do and i want to start off with talking. 'bout will ever made christmas vacation. Two cousin eddie's island adventure now. This is kind of interesting to me. i've only seen the someone and once is one too many times okay. I'm just saying you know. I'm still going to spot a fact about it. Yes and it's interesting. Because the about eddie in his family court. Eleanor anywhere to be seen in the film eddie's adventure it's time to shine. He's a hero. The movie right which is hard to go. You know in the you know christmas vacation. He comes in halfway through the film. And that's i think the proper dosage of this guy. I think they give them a wholesome feeling. But when you can't home elite one guy who may or may not have relations with his own children. Do referencing the first occasion. I won't go into that anyway. The fact that wanted to eat out was The one of the children and one of the griswold actually is in the film. And if you pain the series you know. They changed actors every movie. Yeah well in mitcham they have audrey they come back and adriana played by the same actress who later in the first ak shin movie night christmas vacation but the first vacation name actress playing the same role. It's crazy. yeah and yeah. It was just the switching of the the kids roles has been. I mean. it's it's almost you national lampoon movie when they were still making them i mean they made like one last one and that wine rusty actually takes his family on vacation. I know if you even bothered with allen sean but it was interesting when i saw the trailer I i know like chevy chase and beverly. The angelo was in it but it just seemed like a cop out. You know it was something. Hollywood does every year. They seem to take my interest too much other than the trailer. Yeah because i mean it's just like you said what hollywood does a recycle. What was a driza mega hit again. Yeah so anyways right we. Let's talk about the good movies. Like national lampoon's christmas vacation as a great movie. They which they shouldn't have remade and may shouldn't have just left cousin eddy out of it. Because i mean where's randy quaid now. Anyway yeah. He looks like he's like in a full ban and he had a big old beer like santa. He did really. Yeah no no. He looked like he belongs in a full fan departures from. But you know if that makes you happy. I think a lot of actors just joined bands. I mean i would say there's a few at least not everything is in a band and was a county region demand. And you know. I don't if that's true or not. I can't say honestly i wouldn't be surprised screenshots of him playing guitar or like somebody you all as holding guitar for a scene because although it wasn't bill and ted's because i mean he did play guitar in the wild stallions but who knows what else but anyways we all the president's here's some more ex all the presence on mr shirley's desk role the just in different wrapping paper and i wondered what it was and i actually find out that it was a pencil organizer which was very popular in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine but apparently mr shirley needed thirty of them and i think that's pretty funny 'cause i'm sure he has one then. The uses signs with seems like mr shirley's that type and yeah yeah. Do you have another one you do. I just want to say. I didn't know that and with people that are probably making over five hundred k. Year they get him some nicer. And i'm pretty sure you can have your own swimming pool at that point to twelve. Yeah go ahead. No no now i do have one. Those like is is based off of a short story. Called christmas fifty nine written by john hughes and this happens to be the a well the film that you actually see clark watching when he is trapped in the attic by ellen's mom coup shuts the door when she wakes up in g realizes so cold in the hallway. She likes clark in there and he's washing the short film. It's actually called ex-miss fifty nine on the the school of thirty millimeter. Shot on or something and it was actually that movie that this movie was kind of the inspiration for a scene in a very funny way. Yes and i do have on that one. You know when he fell through rusty's room like why and he just crawl out. Yeah i wondered to if he could just you know pure apart the wall and just kinda slide under. I don't i don't know if you wanna ruin the roof anymore. Or i mean you've already put a decent size hole in like in your done to fix it anyways. Like make good money. So yeah i mean you make five hundred thousand a year. I think you can. You can handle fixing your roof and you. You've already like property damage already too. I think that's why their neighbors his neighbors are so cool with like him ruining their house constantly like yeah they they seem to be padding quite alright like broken windows and like like it's fine and every other week. Whatever he makes good money he'll get us back. But i was actually gonna bring up the fact about the presence. He was putting away up there in the first place. Yeah pulls out a missing gift for mother's day and it took a little little wink to the audience when he pulls it out mother's day on the card underneath a nine hundred eighty three. Which was the release of the first nation. Movie came out nice little little wink wink a little easter egg for you on that one. I i didn't know that. Until i looked it up because it's actually kind of hard to read. Yeah unless you have a blu ray version of the movie. I guess any any guy. Like a four k tv and you can see every particle clark. Yeah i think. That's all my facts. I gotta spewed some facts. I throughout the whole show. have another one. I actually like The actress who played aunt bethany yes. may may may cliffdale. Yes she actually did. The voice for betty boop in the nineteen thirty cartoons and actually up until her death in ninety eight sheesh she Did the voice for her and sixty seven years even up to that point. She did like proteins. For example who framed roger. rabbit came out the previous year. She did the reuter. And that and a little cameo yeah. I don't know i kinda like that. I mean you can actually tell in her voice again no that fact that you can actually tell in her voice that sounds exactly like betty boop so is your house on fire. Clark knowing is presently. I've actually seen a couple of houses that are really decked out like that neighborhood actually got a couple of pictures. I think they're really cool. Nice but do they use so many strands. They don't have twenty five thousand lights. I don't think they don't twinkle twinkle. It is quite a spectacle that people go to that length. They really knew in real life that the you got to appreciate the art work that goes into it an ideal for sure. I love christmas. It's like are you are people like that's just it's not like i'm lazy then i get it like for me. I would never go to that length. But he's literally stapling those lights across like every piece of like citing. Yeah it's like like trying to get that off. I know but yes the effort man. You gotta you gotta appreciate that. That's dedication. He has for stuff he doesn't have to do because he loves christmas. And he doesn't want it to get ruined because he has he wants to wants to. Basically you also by swimming pool for is his kids so but because mr surely which i mean again he can't even makes that much he makes like two hundred fifty thousand less than what he said on this favor that he should make to get that bonus in well. He's doing well. I mean it's not like he has ten kids. It's not like yeah. I mean he has a lot of those. Here's a lot of the feed. But i mean he doesn't have that many mouse feed so especially i mean it says around the holidays so but i'm pretty sure i'm confident in this day. Him in the debt from home alone. They probably had the same job or they work for the same mob. Boss like you said so know theory. They're both in chicago. Same era yes. It can be the truth. It's i like that little. We'll story in my head that they both universes near that. They both have some sort of dark secret but the one that we see them as these two holiday movies like once their wife's jewelry yes it's like they like other universe that we created that they both work for mob bosses. Because that's that's the way they have so much money but apparently they're gonna. They're they're struggling. That's struggling nice. Add how struggling real bad. They're struggling fairly now. Eddie struggling but yeah eddie. Surgery on man. Well there's no longer full. So i mean we'll do it for you but all here's one little thing that i noticed when Ruby was talking to clark in the kitchen after he has this little pool fantasy with the laundry girl she catches them. You like santa claus and then she's just down and then like she mentions. Oh i had to go outside to go to the bathroom like she clark. She's like oh. I like that. I don't have to go outside. Go to the bathroom and stay here. But then like he's emptying the shooter like is quite why she has to say the shooter. Sel and like shitting. Stay that word. Sorry rock which isn't breaks. Our we use a shitty or shitting bricks where she goes shitting bricks. Yeah you shouldn't say that we're no never mind. I totally i had a brain fart on that one. It's my bad i have. I have another factor. Actually wanted to say it's a goofy little one so the part where the cat to on the christmas lights and gets electrocuted. Yeah apparently video executives and we're worried about keeping that in in fear of offending animal lovers but when they had a test audience apparently that was their favourite part in the movie. And so they're like all right. We'll keep it in there so many people into screening well so it's animal cruelty. Yes but they also yeah. They had that and there are. Do you know what three animals appeared in the house cat in world. Yes you got that right. There's no one of the trivia questions but that is a little bonus one good. I real quick before. I thought this If they were worried about that same then you know what about the same from the first vacation where park accidentally ties the dog outside of the car and drive off. That was that funny too. I mean do they show dragging dog. No no they showed caller. Yes i mean. Technically because like i think the one in this one is like you know it's a white cat you see that cartoon outline it's very cartoonish and that's what i think but you do see the white i outlined so it's like when i was younger confused me like i thought it was looking at it at squished cat like it was showing the cat on screen. But i don't believe it not to be the case anymore. This is ashes and as in a little bit of her which it's a funny thing with the cat. Yes so technically at this point he has burnt tree and a burnt chair out. Onside long by a sewer drained it smells like shit really bad out there but yes and then that's and that's towards the end but that's that's one good old. I guess lewis goes a little goes for a little little. He goes in flight once he i think he throws a match into the the sewer exp- explodes and then he goes flying. I remember that part. Luis is probably my favorite minor character in the movie. I don't know i just little thing. hold on. what was he and his in more than this. I remember in Health yeah hey agree is bethany figured out the perfect gift for you to give me anything. Bazzani he gassed it. I like it when he's trying to tell me to say rob mannerism. It gets me every time. Yeah we all know what she's scenes instead of the actual grace she. She does the g. Muslim allegiance yes one man. And he's a veteran kids. He's got a classic clayton his head. Not the steel plate. Because you know everytime catherine ran the microwave a forget who he was and this is pants. Party clark is gives him that. Look like okay love when he says like you know decided you know nothing. But this gets dented. The my hair's just not gonna look right that this is only concern about the whole thing. So i kind of want to watch the movie and there's some good crack me up every time it's a small subtle humor of this like it's all one liners all like there's some gags but it's all like it all depends on like it is quite impressive. Cast when you think about it. I mean you got betty boop get doris roberts. A beverly the angel. You got the future. We've got john. johnny. Galasie julia louis. Julia louis dreyfuss got and you know done. It goes randy quaid. And you know of course chevy chase so it was a quite an impressive cast their partner very well yes But now i have some quick questions for you. Kind of you're kind of already answered one but i'm not to tell you which one and still doesn't add it and why we question number one. Why can't audrey see the christmas tree in the family finally takes it out because They were walking in the snow to get the tree and her eyes per frozen shut from the intense whether there was a during them. Yes and one thing i have about. That is is arctic frozen and they to dig out tree like yeah all juries. Yeah you won't give up on audrey at that point like 'cause or unless they walk back but they walk up in the thing. Is they crash into a tree lot. Yes they don't pick up the tree there. They go somewhere else out in the middle of nowhere to get to tree or i feel mistake. I don't know why you're crashing into a tree. The tree there. It's a weird thing. It's it's kind of the gag of national lampoon's. I think it's like especially at this point because you always expect clark to you. I mean in national lampoon's just expect him to get into a weird situation to a normal seen like like the scenes didn't really matter at all. It's fine right but yeah it's kind of weird. It's the aesthetic of national lampoon's like the vacation movies but okay question number two. What kind of mug is clark drinking from. When he talks to his boss. You want choices or straight off. No no i think. I know it actually was it. A heavenly can remember that vividly. Was it a donald duck. Be tasmanian devil or see goofy. Yeah i remember that. Yeah him in his coworker who is in a lot of eighties movies. He's like he's like the known actor. That's eighty s movies. But he's not like he's like the be listed. He's in with a lot of stairs like out. Oh i'm trying to let me see if i can Yeah what is is a bill. That is yeah. Sam mcmurray gosh raising arizona madden's family value is. He's kind of like some some good stuff but he's i just. I always see him. But i never know who he is anyways. Yeah that was that scene and okay. What city do they film. Christmas vacation in colorado springs. Denver recognize this is where they actually filmed on location. Not as not the fictional. I know in colorado impact that through whatever reason no to walmart they went to was in colorado. And but what do you want me to give you the names again. Think yes given the name. Sorry desert colorado springs Be denver or see breckenridge Summit seems to be correct. I don't think denver. I would say summit some nca summit breckenridge Denver it seemed like you're stumped. This is making me a little mad. Because i know this. I'm stumped denver though it is breaking breckenridge colorado doesn't sound right but i'll tell you were obviously leaving. No idea i just know. They have like They've california and there's some exterior shot in chicago to get like office buildings and most of it was in colorado well but to me. Okay if i guess you can google it right now. I know you're i know you're on your phone through this but you seem very doubtful. This is the first time anyways very doubtful the quiz. We'll let me i'm just going to. There's quite a few different places obviously locations. So oh yeah look. I one breckenridge teens in walmart. Yeah i know that doesn't sound right. I don't know county that's it So you got down. I wanted to say so. That's that would be my answer. But i'll take you where there's quite a few different places. All right. Well i guess agree to disagree or bygones be bygones win. This term comes in or opt agree with you. I don't know. I don't know shit man has gone now. I'm just. I'm just being honest with everybody. I i read from the paper. Like every other podcasters. So i gotta make it sound like i'm somewhat interesting. Yes i'm giving away trade secrets for. Yeah ooh yes after. Oh here's the last one which already guessed how many lights are in the house display. That car puts up twenty five thousand twinkling yes and there actually was a talion twinkling lights. A little light bulb. Yeah but then you see him give a big old bowl of like this huge like gaudy ones like that big old ball that he could not out. That is sickening. I'd be like just get a new. Just get out of. How many are here but just easier. If he's so gung ho about it like you would have a little bit more organized. As i mean he makes five hundred thousand a year. You could buy new ones every year but with agree that i guess we are. That is that is the show. Do you have. Do you have anything you would like to promote. I know you have a band in a new Oh shit yeah sorry. I i totally spaced. I'm i think i'm not tired. I got him but yeah this. This is an area good place right now. I bet place can feel the heat coming in. I'm i'm a little bit sleepy. But i'm good cozy. I don't have any cocoa and having you t want to sit by. Didn't want to have any weird noises while i was recording. 'cause i like weird noise is going on in background. This is me Yes this is movie. Police schenken see what laws were broken within. Say i mean there's quite a laws broken. I think and i think the griswold family is known for breaking a few laws throughout films there. Yeah i mean. They're not part of the mafia. As i mean i say at the beginning when you're driving to go get the tree. There is quite a bit of reckless driving. I'm sure is you. I'm sure you can get in trouble for yourself stuck underneath as much but somehow escaping without being in any immediate danger. I think that would be considered reckless driving. Maybe also out a lotta tailgating. There's tailgated well be fair. They didn't provoke you know they weren't the ones that started it. I'm going to give them credit. Where credit and do they start that they had no intentions on that whatever court should have been the bigger man and just because you know ellen doesn't want to be dead on christmas and exactly i mean she says that directly to them and the funny thing is he's always in a car incident and all of his national lampoon's film. Yeah i mean there's always the christie brinkley. Wasn't she the vacation than the european vacation. I mean i remember him getting stuck into roundabout a carpark this one and then for vegas education. I think they all win cars. I don't know where we know. There's there's a labor deal. Yeah kristie. Bring any yeah. I think it was the beginning of that one. He's just he's driving all looking at a map and he's driving all over the place. Yeah uh-huh true so yeah. There's a lot of car. Incidences crashes into a tree lot sign which we discuss about that already and but the main focus would be the kidnapping of his boss. Mr surely i guess your main focus is the one that you found. Yeah that's the one that bothers me the most however i did want to point out that the subtle nuances buffing a tree through the neighbor's window. Something considered breaking the law or just being a nuisance. But for me is is the kidnapping. Yeah he should have gotten in trouble for the trees. Obviously but like. I said this wasn't their first kidnapping because they did kidnap john. Candy's character and the National lampoon's vacation so they can go to wally world and island actually lies to the cop there so there's another one and i mean they should have out but they were quite a few laws but thankfully i mean. We'll no. i guess. I'll go eddie dumping sewage into the storm drain. That's probably a law those rogan. I'm sure i have a weird feeling. It's one of those laws that don't really get up. Hold very much. It's kind of like the kids depends on how the day kind of law you know what i mean. Yeah i mean and who actually sees it his right. But i mean he was out there and like morning and jog and walk in and just emptying shit into the storm drain but malling all the way round yes. Napping part wanted to say that he wasn't listening to yes. Yes very much Makes the end is a weird kind of feeling crummy right. So it's more unrealistic without the consent. How he could change his mind like elementary. I don't yeah. But i don't feel like this would happen in real life if you can have your boss right. You're not going well for you no matter how you said it's not going to happen and you're not gonna get your bonus they wanted dear. You're not getting anything done. I leave is when he says that he had a change of heart. I i can feel that in the movie but in real life you're asking grass. Yeah you're you're not gonna get your your bonus as you make some sort of cereal varnish and that keeps your cereal crunchy longer and definitely. Yeah definitely doesn't. I mean i get where they were going with it but yes it doesn't make. Oh sorry john. It doesn't make it doesn't make the out no i i. I know whether they're out with the movie. Because it's christmas movie and supposed and happy and yeah i just i agree with you it. It wouldn't happen. The way evans in real life is obviously and the kosh broke a lot of windows for just simply needing to just knock on the door you like and you mentioned that potentially do make five hundred thousand k. here The fact that twenty percent. Yes you might have just lost his job too of windows broken in. They didn't even go to the right house on. One bart yeah so so ads go ahead. I was just gonna say the. Unless he's got good help homeowners insurance. I feel like twenty percent that it was added is going to be the thing that repairs the windows unless boxers feeling really generous that night i mean he did just kidnap them and so gave them money. I mean would it be. I guess directly indirectly. It would be clark salt but it would be because medi that would have gone to jail. But but clark would be necesary any weights would go on for five years and yes but good thing he has enough money set aside for a retainer or a good lawyer but his boss probably hasn't even better lawyer but anyway that is as a movie police for national. Lampoon's chris vacation. Because i think we've pretty much hit all the marks so to speak. You can really get in trouble for going down a hill on a sled super fast And he did bus through the goodwill Drop off any so. Maybe that's what i think. So wasn't it like a goodwill dropoff. I was like a thing is like there's like a parking lot of walmart. And so i mean yeah but i don't know i didn't get a good look. I just noticed to walmart. Yeah because you see him coming inside ways almost the go into the same warmer later in the movie. Yeah hey. I'm back and i'm going to pick up these light bulbs in old cousin. He's like forty pounds of dog food right on top very very subtle humor about it. Yeah it was definitely a good movie and when you listen to this it will be the week before christmas. So you as you're listening to this now. You should prepare and watch some some good holiday movies. A diehard was one that we did last week i was supposed to do gremlins. Usually watch one. You should definitely watch National lampoon's christmas vacation and some bonus ones i would throw out there would be all for me cruised and then home alone and then you said loan too so but yeah definitely go out and or turn on the tv or dig through your dvd collection in gives us movie your watch on all for christmas and yeah. That's i think that's basically good run. The show and sean is this earlier. But do you have anything you'd like to promote or just just put it out there and you have free rein just low as suitable for content and yeah go for it or on the weekends coming. 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It Used To Be Better- Caddyshack

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It Used To Be Better- Caddyshack

"So these backbone and ben staying scene but the truth you just say he used to be then to be a hello. Everyone welcome to it. Used to be better the movie podcast or watch a movie from our childhood upbringing side of it's good or it used to be better. I'm your host. Steve joined as always by april. Hi what's that makes like. Why did you make them. Face like a fuzz got tremendous april in the year. One thousand nine hundred. What were you up to. Nothing was not existent me. Yeah we were not alive but that is when our movie is from caddyshack directed by herald ramos. How many herald ramos movies have we watched but find out not enough for the podcast or for in general. Is that what we're referring to horrible wikipedia. Page young sheldon. Monday nights on nick at night. I was watching friends while you put the kid to bed. House code me balls. That's a great movie okay. He collaborated with dan. Ackroyd on the screen flavor. Ghostbusters wrote directed groundhog day. I haven't seen any of this. I haven't seen anything you've named so far i like. He was in more stuff that i watched or i thought so. Guess not though bedazzled yep directed that and bedazzled on my list. Because you haven't seen it true. He draw you directed. Ben hannah christmas. He directed safety training. This is why i've heard him. Beach games yet. okay okay. This is why his name's familiar because they've talked about him. A lot on the podcast. I listen to obviously these. He did the original national lampoon vacation analyze this in analyze that to other movies. I have not seen. They've been talking about it on the office ladies. Yeah not a lot but they were just being like. I guess like for beach games because they were so far away from each other to be like filming. When they were like taking breaks they would be like. Tell us about groundhog day. That would like yell at him and he speak megaphone. April hasn't seen groundhog day. I have the greatest movies of all time. Yeah it's no. What about bob. What about bob is great now. Distracted by ursula am refuses to turn off the tv. should turn it off. okay. I will on the side. I remember from caddyshack asking. Do you remember about this movie. A of chevy chase alati rodney dangerfield. I remember. I don't remember any of the boobs. I watched a lot of this on regular. Tv you don't remember i don't my brother had the dvd. But i feel like. I ever watched that and who could ever forget the lovable gopher. Okay all right so this was your pick. Obviously since i had never seen that you let me pick from your list. And i said dear gone none of these movies okay. So i was thinking now. What i'm going to start doing is flip flopping so like we're watching a good movie like a good movie quote april. What i what i want is a more mainstream movie like you. Make me watch like weird. Random movies at probably. No one's ever watched ever name name they live. I can t tell you one fucking person who's watched that except you. The see live if i sent a message to seven of my friends right now. I would put your fifty dollars on fifty dollars. None of your friends i've ever seen. They live because your friends are full. Slot what are you talking about. I'm talking about a majority of different people who who's in this fifty andrew beal. Who's in this fifty dollars or who's in this zone friends andrew beal now. These are your friends and happy because he won't watch a scary movie. That movie's not scary though. But it's like horror thriller. I have no okay. How this how about this if i did. A random is seven. People that i waxed. I guarantee you that none of them have ever seen it. And i won't even shoes based off their personalities. Choose seven random people. You can do that cool but also win fifty dollars. Oh that movie came out in the seventies. Would you like to ask my older clients. Yeah sure i will. I will huge movie on my ass. My seven older clans out random. And i'm gonna keep track. And i'm gonna keep track on this podcast. Okay name other movie that no one is ever heard or watched. Oh my god. Why am i thinking goldfinger. But that's not accurate chase. The everybody knows goldfinger What else have we watched Dick tracy rocketeer bill and ted. Ted's book those around. Those are all notable movies. Yeah we've we've watched way more movies than that clip show taped show too. I guarantee you like not a lot of people know about creepshow. I'd never heard of in the eighties. Genre is so huge that there's a lot of people that didn't see. That's but again. Stephen king and george romero where behind those movies so to say that that you're trying to make me watch like seven hold hogan movies okay. Hold on. we're never going to get to the podcast. Were doing caddyshack. Let's get to it. Three alcober movies one of which you think. I think i've seen the mr nanjiani poster looks really familiar. No-holds-barred is a wwe wwf at the time produced. Movie have not seen data that growing up. Okay and suburban commando. I wanted to watch because the undertaker isn't it and it was just the thirtieth anniversary of the bigger. What trailer did we watch the other day. That like had a person in it. And i was like it was like mick foley or something. Yeah some horror. Double double shift is something twelve hour shift twelve hour all know it was it was yeah. It was a teen hour shift or something. No it was twelve hours because then she says it's a double and that would even be sixteen hours. That's not twelve hours. And i'm like and it's not a double because literally nurses work twelve hour shifts. It's literally a normal shift for nurses. So what i wanna do. There's this work sixty six in sixty six or seven or seventy seven yup. That's why they usually only work three days a week. What i'm going to start doing same watching the movies so we just watched a critically acclaimed. Hope you don't need. You're not surprised by the senate. Your phone. barely a critically acclaimed movie in then a collective choice because people love hearing us talk about those movies as well loves hearing you shit all over. My movie picks that are all good. I'm laughing all right. Let's get started to get into it this saturday. I'm going to go through and take the ratings of all my movies and post them up against yours. Great we go see. I'm gonna make a poll a my instagram and see how many people like legally blonde. What's that have to do anything i told you. I haven't seen people love legally blonde. Think so it was a broadway show. They don't make a broadway show is out of anything alexander. Hamilton there was a broadway show about high fidelity. Oh yeah okay. let's get into it. How many minutes are we in that. We haven't even started at ten minutes in all right. Talk about something else. Let's keep going off topic. Who's into a wrestling pocket. They were legit twenty. Five minutes and in handyman started talking about the show. They view keti check as i wrote it in my notes. Let me get my notes. Because you know i'm so good at notts. The dancing gopher shows up. He's dancing to kenny. Loggins was huge in the eighties. That's on yes. I thought it was a foster house full of children but no they were all danny's relatives danny as the lead protagonist in the movie a huge family. There's way too many people in that house. The guys like who is this. The dad's eating he's like who you that's how you can tell this is an old movie when he's spooning so much sugar into three tablespoons cernan but that was like a thing. I remember people putting sugar in their cereal. I think i might have. I think i did know that like forever. But i think i remember doing it like as a really young kid won't because you are gross and boring. Excuse me well. Now they put so much sugar and zero. You never need to cinnamon toast crunch toast. Crunch legit fuck jam. But i would only want it when it wasn't talking and if it was saga would need it done. It's just just dump it in the sink. You pearl sons to the store for the other day and says get captain crunch. I bring home captain crunch and she goes. Why wouldn't you get captured crunch with crunch berries. I just assume that's different cereal on first of all. Let's preface this because now you're gonna sound like i'm just a bratty has bitch. Who made you get captain. Crunch i was going to the store. You were going to the store. And i wanted you to get it for our son who likes nothing. Who's so picky clearly. He wants something sweet and crunchy just captain crunch with no crunch berries and i just thought it'd be common sense that our child would want the crunch berry commonsense. That's like me bring home. You say hey. Can you grow gravity ice cream. And i bring home vanilla ice cream. And you're like where's the cookie chunks in it. No it's separate thing. What crunch. Berries are a different like three different types of crunch. There's not even the word then nella in cookies. Crunch whatever you just said you should use the example vanilla. Bean dumb ass. You've missed an opportunity. What a dumb. He ate that time crunch once. And then i try to. Today's said no. Thank you to bowls that day. He's probably like berries. The kid is saving. Dania saving for college in the parents are riding his ass. He puts that what he saving for with that jars for april. That is literally with him trying to go to college. You know movies about him going to call it. I didn't realize that was. I thought that money to help support his thousand member family. No you seem to be all right. I don't know what they're doing. they didn't make. It seem like that. I've all like they were just like. Oh well. how much money did you make. He leaves his trashy house and rides his bike through a rich neighborhood to bushwood. And we see him. He's a caddie hence the name caddyshack. What for chevy chase. Oh my god. I was talking to my girl at work up because i was like. I watched caddyshack last night and she was like. Didn't you think like chevy chase was hot net. I was like kind of you know. Yeah he's not a bad looking guy. But now that i know he's such a d. bag kind of ruined castle But also young chevy chase throws off the guy from community vibes. What the heck yeah. There's a lot alike joel. Mchale young chevy chase. I feel like joel. Mchale could be in a new caddyshack. We need to do it. Chevy chase's slacker. In this movie was just too cool for school. I don't i don't i don't i don't get what his deal is because later. And what do you mean he's cool. He's like he's nakal because we his house. Empty pizza box that he he's not he's not only but he wants to like he wants to portray that he's really fucking cool and like swag. That's what it is. He owns a lumber yards. We find out like even hear his career. I can't afford college. It's eight thousand dollars a year. I said well he's trying to go to law school. Eight thousand dollars a year. Wow he's like. I'm just going to have to work in a lumber mill. Any chevy's like oh i own two lumber mills end up working in a lumber yard the rest of my life around two yards and noticed you. Don't spend too much time sure. They are dana. Goes i noticed. You're not there right now. The after the please danny's and multiple episodes of law and order. Svu that's it right. He's not like famous for anything. It's famous for this okay. That's what i meant famous for anything else. Michael o'keefe best known for caddyshack. It's so weird. How normal everyone looks. You don't even like no make up. No hair done. No fake teeth. No like anything. Everyone's just so normal looking. Oh my god what. That's where i fucking know him from. Oh my god. He plays jacky's husband in roseanne. yeah in. Dan threatens to beat them up or does beat him up. Well well well. Wow how about that. Did you hear about heison how everyone's playing looking because it's the seventy s slash eighties now. Everybody gets fake work. Done even chevy even chevy chevy. He puts bandanna cross chevy chase or chevy chase chevy chase chevy chevy chevy chase. He covers his eyes with danna. Because he's like trying to tell them to play golf. Be the ball and you just need to feel it and you just said on that mean green. Then he tells danny to do it won't shaina keeps telling danny baldini concentrate concentrate. And he's like. I can't if you're talking to me. And he's like okay so danny hits it straight into the water and he's like where to go says the lumber yard then the spotlight of the movie shows up ted knight please. The judge he rose up. He's a gopher tearing apart the course. Okay wait hold on. I did put a note in here. That's like everyone is just hot. Hot sweaty their sweat through their underarms their face their hair been shirts. There's what everywhere. Steve set except ted knight who's tight. Tonight's a judge whitey. Oh yeah. He's very prim and proper. They looked pretty damn hot set. No annoy florida sweating ten acres out of his car and starts yelling at the head greenkeeper. Gophers do tear apart the golf course and we see some construction going on across the street and then we get introduced. A bill murray. Who like being a big purse staring at old lady golfers crane. i'm looking at you. You are green so you could hide. I don't blame you. you're a trip. Ooh that was a good one. That was right by you. Will mrs crane your little monkey woman. You know that monkey willing you lean mean. You're not too far between either. I don't like pumping the gut the golf punk cleaner up and down. Yeah and you thank god. His ball of the side thing. The main greenkeeper is irish now are scott and he comes up to kill all the co fers plumber. He says if i'm wrong. But if i kill all the golfers throw a key i get not calling for the liberal brown rodents. We can do that. I don't even have to have a reason to do it mind. Let's do the same thing but with gophers rush. Well one getting a lot of trouble. If i kill all the gophers. That's really gonna work. If i kill all the golfers he's like. Oh i can understand you. He did see some smart ass comment like that. We see brian. doyle murphy. Bill murray's brother. Wow also like way shorter. Oh yeah he's also the voice of knuckles captain knuckles in the marvelous misadventures. Blackjack cartoon which what what what are you saying back. Cartoon was one of my favorite cartoons. Don't even know what it is murphy. But it's murray even fucking notes. I wrote murray site. I got respect on that name. Bill murray so check to walk away. So danny takes over and then bill murray has another caddy pinned against the wall with china fork telling a story about his like throat. The dalai lama link so scared looking. He goes just tells the story. Like and i said hey lamma something you know and he says oh won't be any money when you die and you're desperate you will receive total consciousness so i got that going. We made it all the way through. And then he was good stiffy said hey you know a little something. And he says that the dalai lama says when you die in here on your deathbed you'll receive total consciousness and bill is so i got that going for me another caddy who's with two old people hitting all just like go. There tried to like rangel cats because they're just going wherever they want doing whatever they want to do. I didn't. I did note that bill murray's wearing a hat that my dad would wear. It's very at your dad's your dad's probably two two by four hits in the head away from be in bill murray. Oh no if that's nice for not getting hit in the head with a two by four. And i said to heads okay because bill murray is. There's something going on in this movie singing or no okay. I was talking to one of the guys just like he brings up a little later in the movie. When chevy and bill murray interact with each other and built murray like nitrogen. People don't know the guy that's carrying the older people comes up and isn't going to pay fifty cents for a coke that search fight. Yeah fifty cents for a coke. Can you imagine what. I've had coke and a real doodoo in library. Go to the library cook. Delicious cocaine looked ice. Cold glass bottle. Should that was very tasty. I haven't had soda in a long time. You had soda. I'm saying it's been forever. it's been ever remember. I ended up wanting like a sip of a soda at matt christina's and it was so gross. I was like that tastes like straight sugar cubes. I cannot drink it poverty. But i will pour it onto my cereal or tablespoons kicks kicks as my fucking jam cereal to loved kick. You call me an old man. That's a gross. Old is total gross old person aerial kids tested mother peru fuckin- milken and at that point because i love it. You just scoop it in your mouth and then poor little milk in your mouth. What kind of hoodlum am i fucking one. That would wasting tire bullets. Sigy i just ate it fast. Crunch crunch crunch. So they're going to start fighting. I wish i had room. Yeah do we got the dogs out. Haircuts extra needy the rico suave a keti. His brother jumps danny's bag. And they knock over goma sheen and brian doyle murray goes crazy slams the guy up against the wall and says i'd say no fighting and we found out what else to wrote no bare feet get because he he presses the guy up against the signings like what's at say nope bare feet and he's like no up here. That's right. no fighting. Brian doyle says a caddie died and now the scholarship is open again. So of course danny it. Yeah and he's like he's talking about how good of a caddie the guy was like you. Aided him he's like shut up tonight. We meet them up again and he's just a rich asshole. There's another rich a-hole who's like pretending to work remember. He gets like a phone call. And he's like i'll be there but then he's like the doctor. Yeah that is the doctor. Because he's like. Oh just tell her. I'll be there in an hour and he's like oh we'll just just put a tube down her throat and he'll be there in a couple of hours offer sucks we get some chebbi. One liners to the doctor who basically is like. I'm no slouch or something along those lines of jerry's like oh you're tremendous launch. Judge makes a racist joke. I said this movie is racist. Wow this movie is racist. Racist hasn't aged very well. Say like one part. there's too. I don't remember what this part was. So this is where ted knight goes to the priest. Do not say what it is no e he was not a priest though. He's like a cardinal or something higher than a priest and he started to tell us scandalous joke and he says an old school. Wow he tells us black guy to be like he can get looked a wax buildup on these shoes. I need these guys. Like burns's like what he just said he just puts the boots traits of the frankincense burning at this is when rodney dangerfield. joe's up so again. The aforementioned construction around the golf cart course that has caused the gophers. This show up. Roddy is in charge of all this. It's got his name all over it. He walks into the store where they sell. All the acoustical mall in is like this hat. I bet you get a free cup of soup with his hat in the wearing it. S is like a wash. look. And how did i ever saw by hot like this one particular. Free poll the soup. Oh it looks on you love. It looks good on you though Is that your impersonation of this Comedian hey what's that hat. No respect no respect at all just so blown away. By my accent my my really good thanks impersonation is. He's going to caddy for the judge because the judge basically picks who gets a scholarship and the judge is clearly a very cheap d. bag. Yeah i just wrote up hop top up oppa hop. I've no idea i don't think. Oh my god. I i know why because i think the judge roy goes Why did i write and now child labor laws that come from because this this kid is working as a caddy tries to pick up. Rodney dangerfield's back and i was like why they're just making children worse. I feel like steve. Kay was a caddie when we were in like middle school. It's definitely like a thing Rodney shows up and the judge is about. The any goes eight whitey. Where's your hat. Hurry up hundred dollars as you slice into the forest in the judge says gambling is illegal here bushwood and i never slice and then he immediately slices is the girl there now which girl the hot girl with no bra because clearly. That's what i wrote. Oh that's that's why. He makes that noise because i said wow that no bras style here is nipped out. The judge shows up. I think are naming this is lacey under all and she hopes for shout actually a hell for charlotte because she is down to sleep with anybody. She's attractive though she's attractive her little her nips all out but the judge introduces her. His hand is an appropriate. It's not in the right spot for your niece did. His hand is so close to her. That i'm like uncomfortable but also okay to be fair. I don't have like touchy feely family at all clearly like. When do you ever really see me hug my brother or hug me. Yeah when do i hug you and the only person who gets my eleven is oliver. Oliver gets all the hugs and kisses. But you know what i mean like. I wasn't raised. Like very. But i feel like i've seen families that are more. Like okay with touchy feely. And i'm just like do not touch me literally. Just had his hand like around her hip but it was higher up like near the boob area. It totally was. i feel. You're completing this because it was like right here. No wasn't you're like wasn't touching pitcher because it's literally near its way more higher up. What are you going to. Google say hand boob golfing tonight hand boo but that's when he's like her father son her hair to get some cauldron. The noises fuck rodney tees often. It's hits the judge of the nuts besides yells four but he's like i yelled to ha- and then ronnie says so so what let's dance in. His golf bag has a fucking radio in it. So what so let's dance. Everybody is just like listening. To journey component. There will definitely listening to journey and that well first of all you you miss. I totally was cheating. I wrote this guy's a wild and he's cheating he's just kicking the ball wherever he'd like to get out of like a rough patch. I'm like what rough green we go. Back to bill murray. Who's a scoundrel iro. He's a scoundrel. Couldn't get your like he's a scoundrel the fucking greens keeper down role. And i couldn't figure out how to spell it as c. o. u. n. d. r. e. l. I spelled it right. I already did it last night. Or the other night correctly He's carrying a big hose between his legs. Glob guts goldberg any tries to drown the cofer but ends up getting bit. Then we see rodney again. Who has a beer keg in his bag. And they're just drinking some beers we get another iconic scene from caddyshack a hamburger. No chief i want. I want a milkshake. I want tables yet. Nothing and i want a hamburger. No a cheeseburger milkshake. Y'all got like because ted knight's grandson is also walking with them and he's a real booger eater literally. What's the point of his grandson. Think just being an idiot. Oh okay we meet. Danny's girlfriend question. I don't think so. i think they're just. I think it's one thousand percent his girlfriend but she even says when there's a pregnancy scare then it might not even be his because he's she's banging around everyone. Everyone's just banging everyone having baby. Is that just like how the caddyshack job is. Everybody's banging everybody you live and die by the caddyshack rules being in everybody. Wow she's irish. Then we get. Ted knight is on the final hole in rodney says. Hey i bet you thousand dollars. You missed that put in tonight. Misses throws his fucking water. Hazmat as he chucks. He's gonna throw it at rodney. I said what is this. happy gilmore. he turns around and throws it at a huge group people us. I think that's a better idea. He's like how many people can i hit hits a woman in smash table and then danny takes the heat for it like it's my fault. I mentally grip your club. I noticed it. Sorry and the judge do better then. He's i thanks for taking the heat for that. You'll go very far in any tips. Danny and it's literally like a quarter. Wow literally it's literally nothing. Someone told me that much. I would be like well. He just throws them on the table. It's so it's so disrespectful for you. Yeah bill murray is loading his gun. He said he's gonna kill that varmint dealing good armenta dead vermont. Danny's bussing tables at the club behind jobs. Does he have. He's trying to make money save for college right and he's piling butter in front of the judges niece one and she's like i think that's enough butter a huge among bowl humble. Better rodney rodney's that are of course but like the girlfriend. Non girlfriends. like weirdly jealous. You can tell that chicks getting a lot of attention. Because she's like she sleeps with everybody. She's been plucked by. Everyone is what she says. She's irish ronnie says the food there's low grade dog food perfect still. He tells danny's girlfriend. Hey tell the chef this is low grade dog food ok in usually the waitress would not be like oh right away and then. She's twelve goto the chef. Yeah we get a scene of a the chef going dog food and like trying or announcer with like a big butcher's knife. If gordon ramsay he'll he'll tell them like it is he'll verbally tear them down. Yeah rodney farts and asked if anyone stepped on duck then he goes on offense. The judges whole family to me like try to dance with the life. He's just like he's he's so centric. He's great fucking love. Run that his like his actual personality. He's just so wild. Well he's not alive now. He's been really. I'm still in michigan. he died. Well say do you remember the time in place of where you were when he died was working for red bull. Let's see that's a really significant passing for you Two thousand four. Wow so was working for seven up. I was still in high school school making that money. Seven of he were barely polin. Pallets making like thirteen dollars an hour. Do some four. it's pretty and it's like money. That's pretty good shit. We go to bill. Murray who now has two six packs. Who's covered in link foilage or said he's like oh man i'm declining. I wrote something about this. That oh i said he's dressed like robin williams ngo monje. I'm glad we waited for that. He is he's he's basically trying to find gonna find the gopher shoot it. Then that's what he thinks chevy shows up. And he's like making weird faces at all the old ladies in like flicking his tongue and for that one point yeah. He said he's being judges. Knees wants to bang chevy jays more funny. Roddy one liners here. Chevy was a handsome guy. Wow he just do chevy chase even have like i think it to talk shows that both like just bombed all really. Yeah so chevy in the knees are talking. And she says she's into skinny skiing bullfights on acid and what the fuck is skinny scheme but while skiing so skiing while naked. That's fucking stupid. That sounds awful. Sounds like my worst nightmare literally need to be in like one hundred layers. If i'm in the snow the hell of skinny skiing people don't work. People love acid bovines on acid. She says. I bet you have a lot of nice ties. Do you wanna time. Yup i said this is a purpose. She in high school college. Yes and then chevy's let's just act like humans and she doesn't seem to go for it and that's when bill murray takes aim mrs and like something get shot near them like ricochets off it. We see the judges grains on drinking all the bottoms of all the booze and gets a cigarette butt so he pukes in the sun roof of a car parked out front. I've done that. I've drank out of a bottle and their cigarette butts in it. Galvez really wasted my twenty first birthday. It was discussed. Well it's when. I used to smoke when i smoke cigarettes. Everyone is smoking in this movie. That ruin at fucking every either weed or cigarettes. Yeah they're all smoking. Rodney pays the band off and they start playing like dance music and he's dancing with the judge's wife and says do you wanna make fourteen dollars the hard way. She's a cheap whore when you thought. That was really funny. The people who own the car that the grandson puke din rush out and the guy sits in the vomit like slides down because it's leather seats. We find bill murray stereo ladies again. Why did i roll. I wrote something before. Marie into these all ass woman again slack. You off you fuzzy. Little foreigner. I was slacking off. Fussy foreigner he's barkley job. Who says that bill. Murray to the greens keeper guy. Because he says they need to a. They need to redo the holes. Slagging-off i got. That was so funny. Obviously i wrote it down. Knows like what does that from guys like. Why is murray into these old ass woman. That's the last of my notes. I gave up after when. Bill murray's berkeley dog to the old ladies. Yeah we see chevy chase again and it looks like he's teeing up but he's actually peeing on the side of the golf course. That's pretty inappropriate. That's literally what happens at every golf. Course there's no bathrooms on the golf course texture. As how many times. He's picnics town. Gotten out right now. Because i need to know chevy chase throws all these balls on the green hits them all in barefoot. We're in the middle of a caddie tournament. Now danny wins and then the judge says. What are you doing sunday. are you free. I'm going to be at the yacht club club. Christening my ship days free and have going. Oh great you can come cut my grass. Oh my god is such an ass then after you come to the club wayne verlander to reply danny in the irish chick bang in. Then it's katy de the pool from one to one fifteen. All the caddies are allowed to swim. Katie's going crazy panting. People the knee shows up and everyone's attention goes to her everyone sucking in their guts and she walks to the high dive and performed a perfect dive. Okay but like he did one of her danny's like with his girlfriend who he just had intercourse with. Yeah and he's staring at this other girl. She's like clearly jealous. A all the katie doing synchronized swimming. The tussle lifeguard and the chair into the pool and then somebody throws baby ruth into the pool. Another scene. I clearly remember. I did not enjoy. This definitely. Looks like poop a. They have restrooms. I use them. They have restrooms. And i use them. Cheese a fucking but in emergencies. I have peed in a blush. It's not it's not an emerging he's doing all the time and the people he goes with all the time to. Okay hold on boobs boobs yeah remember. They're fucking in the pool and the girls like top is completely often like the old lady comes. she's like key topless and doing like chicken fight. Cool these are jelling. Duty only yeah cool. She's topless playing chicken fight so the next seen them scrubbing the pool out and bill murray picks up the baby. Ruth smells it and it like it's okay eats it and the judge's wife like pass with no other words it's okay. The end of the scene. Think smile he's looking around the pulling these dumb asses. Denise shows up cherries house. This is when he kind of lives berea bachelor. There's pizza boxes. She wants a drink so he gets like three perry as and pours them into one and shakes it to make it like phys. That's fucking disgusting. And they drink tequila drinking tequila but chevy keeps throwing over shoulder. Yeah why is that. He doesn't get drunk. Where skinny dip. We see more boobs more boobs. They they massage each other. They probably being. I'm pretty surely do we go to the club. Gainey shows up dressed like a sea captain and the niece hits on danny. And then they're gonna go bang. Jerry gives us really wants to like bang him. he's not attracted. that often is much more attractive outfit. He was in no. It's a captain. No thanks thank you know think you. That's all over. No thank you to make this huge speeches as they're going to christen the ship and there's another thing i remember the wife goes this smash on the hall of the ship just like brakes stem of the boat. A the nieces leaking danny's hand. Yeah she just overly sexual slut. Shame i did i did. I say she's a whore. I think we did we so we did. We did at then. We're taking it back now because guess what you know. What if it was a guy. Would we be saying the same thing. Let me play. Devil's advocate real quick. Oh yes i would say it. I would say he's a whore ronnie's it's speeding towards the judges vote and a huge fucking yacht causes a giant week. Not only the week. A massive amount of chaos hits a wedding party next their whole fucking wedding party into the water runs over dudes boat. That's when you were thinking. It was racist. There was a black dude fishing. Like rodney in. You're like oh that's racist. And then he clears out that entire wedding party of people finally gets control drops anchor in. It goes directly through the judges boat. Danny's bang in the judges bed. Judge comes home and finds danny atop of his knees and then he tries to kill. Danny he's ready to kill him. He danny escapes through like a shared bathroom in the judge's wife like makes is it anti. Oh she's like oh we'll come watch my back honey today like her man british like she's like wanting the young guy to do it and then i was like wow is this. How old older women feel they. They want that young and young meet the old. The older couple from earlier in the movie show up. And they're like are we still having t if they knock over a butler throws he down the stairs. Very funny insane. Seen we go back to the golf course were bill. Murray is hitting flowers golf balls. He's gotta be pleased with the crowd is just feed here. He's around a boy. Tuesday's is i guess. He this last shot. He's got about one hundred ninety five yards left. He's going to this I don't even know what the cinderella cinderella story reminds me of somebody. But i can't even think of. It is the bishop that's who it is. He's a bishop. So the bishop wants to get a couple of holes in basically demands it. Bill murray his caddy come on. I would never choose bill murray. He looks like a just a homeless person. Even in this. He's like in a button-down shirt with the very top button. Buttoned stains all over it. Shorts and combat boots the bishops. Having a great game it's like downpour and bilberries like i think we've already seen the worst of it in the next scene. It's fucking monsoon. It's raining some areas like playing. His best game is the best and he's like the good lord would never let anything happen to us. A one point he hits sorry sprout. He hits the ball into the hole in a fraud. Comes out there on the very last hole. The bishop mrs curses to the sky gets hit by lightening drops. The bag and runs away. So i liked dead in the next scene remember. He's like wasted okay because you get electrocuted by electrocuting she. Yeah i i would very much think so as he was struck by the die is where say you live. People have been struck by lightning and lived. Why are you saying it so unsure. I'm pretty sure that you can live. I don't think in those conditions he would live. He was basically standing in water. Gani slept in the locker room because he was voiding everything. Yeah all the dogs are in. Danny's irish girlfriend shows up and she's late sedan. Is it well. let's get married. Yeah what an what dom of course. And then she's like well. It might not even be yours whoop see and then more. He came out and they just had a whole chauve. Who's the father she says. And he's like. I don't care outlets still get married. I'll take care of you. That's what i mean. I think he like likes her enough to be married. Brian doyle murray sees all of it and he's like you're a good guy and then guys golf course shows up and it's like i need to see this caddy in. Its danny. the judge judge is going to murder him so daniel office immediately sits now. New judges like heads is back to him and he was like daddy's down he's like saving they start to talk and there's stupid lamp in the way and they keep going back and forth trying to see each other just like knocks it off the desk at one point. He says he's sentenced kids younger than danny to the game. Yeah and he also remember. He threw his niece or whoever it is under the bus you. He was like yeah. She dislikes to be promiscuous. Even told anyways thank god. Thank you dan for goodness or bed. Bath is good in the judge basically awards in the scholarship right there after banging his is his niece niece. Okay denise denise go to the bar where this is when the bishops there and he said that he's wasted and he's not a man of god. Yeah rodney shows up. But everyone loves rodney except the judge. Ronnie at one point threatens to buy bushwood in the judge begins to choke rodney and then the judges. He choked me the one that right the yup. they're not supposed to ten thousand dollars A lot of money back then. Oh yeah we'll do. Some math and a little bit. Ten thousand dollars is a lot right now. I'd love ten thousand dollars you can. Anybody wanna give me ten grand ten dollars. Wow aim a little higher one thousand dollars. No i'm for what could probably happen. I could walk outside and fined ten dollars. I'm not going to find a grand. Chevy has his partner doesn't want to do it Chevy like trying to the judge. Judge like me and your father we we make like such a cool guy. He's like at the bar like making a drink or something showing can shown like a handsome man. The is like jimmy can. Can we talk in private. And he takes him nowhere like walks walk to the side of the bar and a little ways in he starts talking. Turns in chevy's like the bars in front of me. Ted knight plays like the perfect buffoon in this movie. It's so fucking great. I don't know who he is. Besides this movie. Basically it okay. I think he was like in the mary. Tyler moore show as well so he gives us long speech. Chevy about like near dad built does and blah blah blah. And chevy's like let's make it forty thousand. My dad never liked to. He's my dad. Never liked to maggie dancing around the golf course. She's not pregnant. Oh she's fucking static. This is the last movie that actress did. Oh she's from severe schizophrenia. Like is dropped off the face of the earth. Essentially the gopher checks in on bill and he's creating c. four versions of squirrels and rabbits. He's all little always talking to them. 'cause he's clearly a lunatic chevy is from simpson's or i don't think he's supposed to be willy. Willy might be slightly based off of him. This movie came out. Aid true jimmy. It's a ball through bills. Window is a hybrid. This is across a bluegrass contract. Bluegrass federal bench and northern california since mea committee dishes that you can play thirty six holes in your new home. Just get stoned onto the bejesus belt. That night on stuff. I got pounded. And then they get stoned and drunk like super wasted a little harsh here cannonball offering their way back and then one morning right on top of canada coming any. He's like no no told him now and he just like four. Basically peer pressure send like very easily. Peer pressures. I made this this grass right here. It's kentucky bluegrass. something else. Something else in the best part is after you get done playing golf. You can smoke it get high and he's got. This huge novelties is blind. Yeah in chevy's like i wouldn't usually about okay. He starts coughing so bill. Murray hands with like this jug of wine and they just keep passing it back and forth across a quote from this part. I always remember is Bill murray's like i'll i'll come hang out with you sometime over there and he's again addresses like too obviously address but he's also like yeah. We have a pool but we have a pond. Bow back to ponder. Probably better for you. He's a dirty human being. Wow and as he walks away. Chevy says thanks for the dope. 'cause he he just was trying to shoot his golf ball. Yeah a bills. Like i'm just going to clean up around here and just start to leave the sheet off the ragging ask couch the couch couches like holes. And it's not even a couch. That's like a back seat of a car. Wash to be fair. I think my dad had shit like that for the judge for this huge bet. bill is dropping his c. Four animals into all the holes and everybody is now betting on the game that nobody's supposed to know about and they're not supposed to be betting because member like they were like. Keep this between you guys. No betting here gentlemen of course like just like any workplace. There's all the like the Because brian doyle murray is like the judge of this game yeah At one point. So the judge and the doctor chevy and rodney and at one point the doctor's pager goes off. I'm sure it's just a routine emergency and gone. That's the worst. The gopher notices all the animals being dropped remember like the gopher was kind of watching him make the animals. Yeah that's a real character in the movie. The gopher gophers cute. I had the dancing gopher for the longest time. Wow ronnie hits a ball ronnie's having the worst game of his life. Yeah he's just shitting. Well also he's not using those fancy tools. Yeah in they've dave raised the bet to more like i think they're doing like double or nothing or something. It was twenty and then it went to forty thought it was ten twenty and then they made it forty at a little break was at one point. The gopher takes rodney's ball and throws it mill road newsline that kinga roost stove my wall. They bet on the grandson eating. Boogers like the grandson. Sitting there picking his nose and fifty bucks pigs his nose and everybody like makes our beds and then the next bet i bet he eats gorse. The eats it run then. Hit the ball off the ball washer and it hits his armies. Oh i can't continue. Well he wants to be done. So chevy picks danny to replace him. They're basically like if you forfeit your done you. You're you lose of money or you need to find a replacement. The judges like migraines keeping replacement. The grandson's grandsons like just off in the clouds. I think we get to pick our own replacement chevy's really sucking murray still planting all of the explosives around the golf course. Madonna last four putts. Dr mrs then gets it in. The judge takes out a special club. It's just like billy busy putter kissing it shut him. He makes a shot on the first one. He's like a shooter. Mcgavin chevy misses. And now it's down to danny and chevy says. Don't worry if you miss it. We lose total Nowhere rodney dangerfield. Eighty thousand did. He's like what the fuck. Oh my god he's like. Why are you doing this. Which hardy under so. It's like when he's about to putt to dany hits. The murray raises the plunger on the c. Four explosives hits it down like it's down as we see the ball reached the very ledge of the whole. Then everything just fucking exploding. All around. Brian doyle murray is just staring at that ball. It's going back and forth going back and forth balls in ghanian chevy win. They're very happy. Everyone's losing their shape at the end of this to like danny's getting ready to make the putt and all the other caddies like you can do it. You got it. you got it there. Very much rooting for him because of the judges real ass. Oh he's a total practice. Then ronnie wants money from the judge and the judge says he's not gonna pay rodney just has to thugs run. You hugh ronnie's like running in two huge old school thugs. He's like oh. I thought you'd say that. get them. And then the last line of the movie. Hey everyone we're all gonna get laid in everybody cheers and that's how the movie ends. Does danny get any money. Does he go to gets money. Come on chevy already has money. It looks like on cash. Seventy eight thousand dollar check. Yeah i'm pretty sure he has money. So i'm pretty sure that money went to him right. Something had to go to them. There's a caddyshack too. But i don't think it was. That was that out when was released in euros. Born is not a good movie from all things. i've heard rodney. You're judging it. Dan ackroyd takes over the bill. Murray role oh no jackie. Mason takes over the rodney data. there's also pg. Wow april yes what did you think of. Nineteen eighty classic caddyshack for once. I got to finally enjoy a movie out. Sorry i liked it. It was funny. It was kinda kooky. But i've an update that it was funny and cookie said he has puked all over the greens and fairway multiple times. Yes i did see that. He didn't read that already. I read that way earlier. Focus on the show april all about the show. No i thought it was pretty funny. It has a lot of good people in it. It's quirky good scott young chevy in it. This movie was made for six million dollars. Wow can you see how much you made. I can't forty million dollars. Wow almost seven times its budget. Do you think they'll ever tried to remake this. Yeah surprised they haven't. I don't think so. I really don't especially after they were. They tried to remake national lampoon's vacation. Lynn ed helms's in it. Now my god. I don't remember this you mean like meeting the marshalls or whatever or meet the millers. Meet the millers that movies funny though no way they redid you monje. I wouldn't like they re did you. Monje and i was like so not for it. And then thousand fifteen and it was really good down watching. I was talking. Shit ended up being so good. This meet the millers in christina applegate know christina applegate o. I remember now because he he plays rusty. Yeah yeah that's a hard one to make money hundred seven million of thirty one so what actually did good okay. That's good i mean money people love nostalgia. Everybody watches drastic world. Even though it's pretty garbage keisha called a great film. National lampoon's vegas vacation as one. I'm never gonna forget. I saw that in the movie theater. I just meridian like tenth my home. That's where i'm from judah for the hangover. Two i still i still find it really cool to see vegas in movies and being like that's where i'm fucking from. I think it's really cool. You don't feel that way about detroit. Oh yeah i was being sarcastic. I laughed but you're being serious now. Hold the super. I think it's called. It's so cold and windy. But it's a classic music video and song coney island wanna take me to michigan at all. 'cause you're rude the only time i'd wanna go is like in the fall so you can see all the leaves and shit but we could probably go up to washington. You made fun of my childhood. Here and major childhood sound way better there because i never went to the zoo and stuff. You don't even wanna take me or your son. It's very depressing. Now i've google mapped like back through my neighborhood and like there's so much stopped. It's like just closed and abandoned. Hey vegas is doing pretty pretty scary right now think this was all before covid. I don't think updates that quickly. Everything's difference really fucking crazy. Yeah no yeah. I think it's cool to see vegas movies. Yeah conair classics like conair. National lampoon over connor. honey. I shrunk the kids right. I blew up the kid. Honey i blew up the hard rock r.i.p or ip hard rock it's What's the guy's name virgin now. Virgin hotel going to be done soon just in time. Just who knows. But you know what. I wack somebody who's higher up there. I don't know what her position is. But richard branson himself nobody. She's not him but anyways she just said basically it was a good time to be under construction enclosed time. That's the best part. Because they really technically didn't luau no they just they're going to open up to like not as good of an opening world or yeah. I think can have pandas there. This has been podcast about promoting vegas. Please come no keep your eyes on home where your mask hold up. it's great. This movie held up. I liked it. It was funny. I'd watch it again if he was on real fucking stinger next time. I can't fucking wait half the time. They are ship. Moving is that. I have to watch so i was happy to finally like at least enjoy something last week loss. Time where you are you the way you are blessed movie we watched. That's your pick it a scary movie. Wasn't it showed you that wasn't that bad is on your list. What are we going to watch next. You cursed at me and said the lizzie mcguire. No i'm not gonna watch that. Because i love that movie not i want you to shit all over it Let me pull out my list. Sir sir okay I want you to shit all over it. I share with you some of my favorite movies and you should all over. I'm thinking we're going to either have to watch i robot. Are you mad that. I wanna watch i robot. I love that movie. I've seen most of i robot. You said you did not see it. You said you had not seen it. I'm like from beginning to end. You saw gold's gym annoying okay. What about mercury rising wrote that member. It's when i was saying it's bruce wasn't it's the kid haley jonsman in me and my brother would always go. Mommy simon his home. What about bedazzled. I have a dazzled a hera ramos back to back. Why don't you just pick the movie. Then why are you even. Ask me what i'm gonna do. I i am. Were shooting ideas off each other. No you're telling me what you'd like to do. So we'll watch dazzled. Find it where where you can rent it or get it for free. This has been speaking jira. Listen back to this and go. I saw that. I listened back. And they say wow. I'm so witty smart and knocking jimmy parting words for your listeners. I guess that steve will pick the movie. He wants earn next week. So i let you pick for this week. I did because i didn't want to suffer. Suffer next can't wait. For april for steve it. This has been a history better. Aren't you going to plug us a go to frank culture also so media. We bought an elf on the shelf. Have to move him. 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Tuc Watkins

Homophilia

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Tuc Watkins

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The interview that people are about to hear with tuck Watkins Hukou Watkins actor and Dream Boat Yeah solid cornfed a decent so handsome. You mentioned couple times as in the lead up to this that you were kind kind of looking forward to this interview. Yes casually mentioned it. Yeah fulltime yeah like every time I've opened my mouth. Yeah it It's everything that I wanted more yeah. Yes he is. He's an absolute delight. He sure is ops. We Are you know he was in the boys and the ban on Broadway way in he's in now the boys in the band coming to Netflix next year and we talk a lot about that. We talked about his romance with one of his cast mates kind of breaking news breaking news. It's very exciting. I'm GonNa this is how I feel. Let me tell you a quick story. Do you know Jhansi done writer. she is an editor at rolling stone for years and years and she she didn't interview with Madonna right where she had to go to the maverick offices and it was it was like a profile cover thing thing whatever so she went and spent the afternoon with her at Maverick such a really nice time it was great conversation whatever and then she went like as Sheila allow she say goodbye and left and went through reception. She was like Oh my God I have to sit down and she went and like there was a so she sat down just like catch your breath for a minute and the reception she it was like get you some water. This happens all the time. It's just it's just a natural sure. I feel that physical like I should get some water right now. We'll thank God. I brought my swap bottle. I mean why even wait. Let's just dive right in for God's sake. Please enjoy tuck Watkins. We're back with Tuck Watkins. Hello Hi everybody towers. I'm great happy Thursday. Thank you and also with you thank you. We've been talking about your role on black Monday which were so excited about and and we've been talking about Jeffrey Obscene. Yeah just all our best topics as a pretty far left leaning leaning progressive. It's going to be a lot of fun to play right wing conservative. Oh is that what you're black Monday yeah. Are you channeling someone in particular. It's hard not to look at at at Mike Pence as this duplicitous. I went to college in Indiana uh-huh so when he started doing his stuff it particularly stung just because I spent a lot of time there and I loved that state and the people in that state so yeah I I've Kinda got him at the forefront of my mind so we'll see what happy that starts with fun games and we'll see what happens at the end of the season. Cher turn what is on your dvr right now what he's watching or even time hey. I have a DVR. Don't use it because I don't really watch TV anymore my kids do. I have kids that are that are six and a half or six and a half and so they watch whatever is it's on its net flicks so the answer's net flicks. They just go straight to net Flix. They know how to navigate it. They know how to get at that but they know lower left will turn it on the center. Circle will will take them where they WANNA. Go kids programming and what are they watching. They watch my son and daughter both love. There's a whole Barbie series where it's not even Barbie anymore. There's not even a character name Barbie. A lot of them look like Barbie but their name Blair Erin and other things. There's a barb. Universe is a Barbie Universe yeah. There's a there's a princess school and I actually actually I've been having a disagreement with them about whether it's okay to watch that because this one girl who really mean she's like a mean girl and I feel like I don't want my six and a half year olds. Watching this cartoon has got a mean girl in it and I think will as a dad. Do I stop them from watching it. Do we talk about the lessons of it. You know it's tough guys yeah. It's it's tough navigating the Barbie World Yeah. It's not so easy much harder than father's yeah. So where do you come. I'm down ultimately in that decision. Well I laid down the law and I said you can watch the other episodes but not that one and then the next day which was today my son said I had I think you should know that she becomes nice at yet and that stopped me and I said okay well if he can clock that and he can see that it it kind of took the wind out of my sails and I said okay all right and I'm kind of into it that my son likes watching Barbie. Yeah I liked watching bar playing with Barbie revient quite a bit. My Dad didn't like it quite as much my buddy. Chad Clemens remelted army men in the backyard. We didn't really play the GI JOE or stretch Armstrong MHM stronger or Barbara Green Army men Yasser. Hang them upside down on a stick and we get one of our parents lighters. We've melted them all into a big blob yeah did you as in you never had an interest in the girl twice or it just wasn't an option no it was. I think it was there. My my sister played with that stuff. I just wasn't wasn't naturally drawn to that. I think may have been part of the reason why it took me so long to come out is because so much of the things that I liked can I liked to do we're kind of like guy things quote unquote guy things and so. I thought well if gay is liking feminine stuff and I must not be gay and all that sort of stuff messed with my head for a long time and worked it out with some some difficult political art in the backyard. Yes yes yes I did. I took it out on on America's military. what did you grow up by watching. Let's see John First of all. I grew up in Kansas City. My I remember my first first male. Crush was on bill bixby in the courtship of Eddie's father. Wow and then the incredible hulk share solid choice. I remember really really liking that show and I think part of the reason I joined the fraternity. I joined twenty five years later. Indiana was because bill bixby was a member of that fraternity like thirty years. Probably these are the kinds of choices I made yeah and you'd walk by the portrait Azure Yeah Right next to Adelaide Stevenson who I think was the vice president of our country. Wow anyway bill bixby vice president. Maybe one day Tuck Watkins so yeah. I remember watching a lot of that. I watched Johnny Quest Churn Johnny Quest. I like Little House on the prairie great fine choices mash a loved mash when we first got a VCR. What was that like nine hundred eighty something like that? I was the only one who knew how to program. VCR and I went around the neighborhood and I programmed everyone's VCR it can make the clocks stop chiming midnight and I programmed are VCR so that at midnight every night it would take mission impossible and when I came home from school the next day I would have a snack anakin. I would watch the last night's episode of mission impossible yeah great routine. who were the actors that you looked up to? Who was there anyone that you know you sort of pointed to your North Star almost everything I do. I try to rip off Kevin Kline. Kevin Kline was from an early age to today. I think he's just I just think he's it's really exciting to watch. I like those guys that you don't know what's going to happen next door. If you don't pay attention something's happening. You should have been paying attention. John cleese was another guy. I that's not to say that I've gotten I've gotten to do a lot of comedy but I try to instill things that I learned from those guys into roles that may not necessarily call for it and I think that kind of shakes things up a bed and more and more when we're surprised by the people we watch and programs. I think those are the ones that that I gravitate towards so I keep going back to Kevin Kline. Okay first of all went to my high school. Thank where's that in Saint Louis. Oh Yeah Small Catholic school run by monks okay what was that called priory Saint Louis prior okay because 'cause I went to Parkway West and Saint Louis Stop Bad yeah and I knew he went to Indiana yet. Klein using the music department which apparently had nothing to do with the theater department but I didn't know that until it was too late but we have priory I think was we're heading West County yeah. It's a mile from park. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah well. Hi How are you. I'll be damned so wait. So when did you move to Saint Louis. When I was in ninth grade. My Dad bought a company over in Wednesfield Missouri and and so our family moved over there in ninth grade stayed through high school when my sister graduated high school a year after I did my family moved back to Kansas City so the lion share of our lives I just Kansas City six years was in Saint Louis can high school. So where did you live in Saint Louis. Yeah it was called it was an unincorporated the area of town and country town and country near the White Castle sure on on Manchester Road right down there. I'll be damned. I worked at stake and shakes taken shake. This is my first job. Me and Annatto and Maury McCreary Jeff will all went down there and said hire us all or higher none and unfortunately the hired all of us yeah and it was a great. I don't know if you can say shit show on the radio absolutely it was it was that I was I was terrible at that would have been like eighty five something like that. I want to turn the orders. Yeah and people say where's my food and then the kitchen's backed up it it it. It didn't go well. My first job was the McDonald's on Manchester Independent. Oh Yeah just up the road will the pair for cinema wasn't far from there and our phone number one digit off from the pair for really theater and and so every now and then we will get a phone call saying what's playing and my sister who was so great at prank phone call. She was immediately switched to yes. This is the person but our movies have been stolen. Please come visit a concession stand. That's yes and we were running around. The streets absolutely made serving serving the fast food yeah on Manchester Road seconds. You came into my life as Safir a while in get a life yeah that was that was the first job that I did that. I didn't get cut out of that was very exciting. Show a Chris Elliott was so funny yeah and I got to play his his rival at the handsome boy modeling school run by Brian Doyle Murray. It was very funny and I remember at one point David Markin the director who went on to do executive producer Simpson's. He came up to me between scenes and he said Tuck Sapphire isn't gay and I said I know I know I thought what am I doing. What does he know about me this coming through and put the fear of good Lord in me but when I go back and watch it. Sapphire is pretty pretty gay pretty gay he he had one of those long dangling earrings that Rob Lowe had in cinemas fire which I thought was so cool at the time yeah yeah and what about these jobs before that you got cut out of full is your first. Gig My first GIG ON TV was three lines on growing pains and I can perform right for you real quick it was towels here yo and that was with Kirk Cameron and Alan Thicke. I was a trainer in a gym and all I had to do a show up and say towels here here and I couldn't hit my mark on time. There were too many background in the gym. The the director would get on the microphone and say a Towel Guy. You're late. I know I just can't get around and so I called everybody back home in Kansas City and said I'm going to be growing pains here here. It comes in my mom. Calls me because you know it's two hours ahead there and so they sought two hours before I saw it in California and my mom said I think we saw you which which is code for. You got cut out of that show but you know it's funny. I still get residuals for that show of course and that was like nine hundred ninety so oh someone isn't doing their job over there at whatever production company that is still airing right yeah but I got cut out so I shouldn't give you were featured extra. Essentially I wasn't even that fish. I wasn't anywhere to be found. I don't think it's on my IMDB page while but yeah so I I still get a reminder frequently that I was cut. Out of. My first job was also fired by from saved by the bell. What were you what kind of lousy actor forgets fired from saved by the Bell Talk Watkins. That's it has nothing to do with having seen well. I just I just saw that. They're doing a reboot now so I wonder if that means. I'll get fired three episode arc again. Oh Wow Shirley Dustin diamond will have some right. I mean if so you think I know I saw that headline. Immediately just brought it bad memories of what were you. What were you too high and I was to have been then a college guy that tiffany amber theissen fell for and I was told by the guy that played the principal on that show this is a very important story for us because it's the first time we're going outside the family and I thought come on pal comedy relax and so I so they wanted it to be sort of a they didn't want him to be like this treacherous lecherous guy from college hitting on a girl from high school and I got that and you know if you look at me on the Internet I looked like a guy from the Midwest who probably wouldn't be this lecherous guy in college so it all kind of made sense and the director director called me at home and and he said and I answered I might you know brick like corded telephone back then and he said I'm calling on to to to let you go producers. WanNa go another way and I said I said why. He said he said you're lacking equality that we're looking for and I said well what qualities that he said assertiveness and I said well. How's this for assertive. I'll come back tomorrow. I'll play it more assertive. You told me to be like guy next door. Not W ledger. She said no no. I'm not saying we won't hire you again. I thought I don't know I'm not coming back so that was that was that was my tenure. Ah Shit with the good folks at saved by the Bell and you know it's funny when we were just shooting the boys in the band over at Sunset Gower. Tiffany has a parking spot right next to my trailer over there and I promised myself if she pulled into that spot I was going to go up and they're just very nicely say hey. I just want to say hi. I was the guy that got fired on the second day that that you're supposed to have just to see what would happen but I didn't. I didn't hear never got the chance maybe bomber homer on that. reboot yeah the reboot yeah yeah when they bring me on to fire me again. Bomer on here talked to him about boys in the band. We'd we'd like to work our way through the whole cast. How did the how did it all come about well. I got really lucky three years ago. I move back home to Kansas City because as a single gay dad with two little kids. I was completely overwhelmed trying to raise them by myself out here. In California I kind of thought that I would just plug my kids into my rock and roll lifestyle and everything would be great. We'll those who have kids are probably laughing right now because they know that's just not the way it works so. I I moved home because I need your help in my family's there and they gave me a lot of help and I was in a park in February two thousand seventeen. I think it was and my cell phone. It was Joann Taylor. WHO's a big deal? Broadway director and he said we're doing reading boys in the band. Do you think you could come to New York to do. It and I said Oh I can't I'm. I'm doing a production of constellations. Akin City Repertory theatre and he said I think you should make it worth your while and I didn't know what that meant and I wanna get one day off Sundays Sundays the only day we need you find read it. I am not a bit so luckily my day off happen to coincide with the day they were doing that reading and we did the reading and most of the guys that you saw on the Broadway stage and you'll see in the net flicks movie next year were at at that reading that reading turned into a workshop and then they decided to do to do the play and you know I. I've been an actor for thirty years and I've had to compete and fight for for most of the stuff that I've gotten. I haven't gotten a lot of offers. This is one of the things that just kind of fell in my lap and I don't know where it came from and it's about this guy who leaves his family because he just I just can't live an authentic life anymore and he leaves it because he falls in love with the man and I I think Joe I admit Joe maybe a decade earlier but didn't really know him and maybe he saw my Baywatch episode from the early nineties and thought this is the guy in the background of that growing but I think maybe because he was aware that that I was a single dad and I have a couple of kids and maybe he thought maybe he's got something that he can bring to the table because I did have to consider. What would it take for me to leave. My children and I can't really come up with anything so for that guy who have done that in nineteen sixty eight I mean he must've been vilified. He must have lost everything so to draw on that. I think maybe maybe that was one of the reasons they looked at me because I did. You have kids and had some more to come from on that and how long until you realize this is much more than a one day reading once we did the reading and Ryan Murphy was there and some heads of ca were there. I thought Oh this is this is this is potentially more than a reading and but after every Gioja said okay thanks a lot see you later and then he then he called and he said look we're going to we're going to do this on on. Broadway next spring and we're could have workshop this summer but you shouldn't come through the workshop. If you don't want to do the play on Broadway I'd hate to be a past and now you probably don't WanNa leave home. I thought are you kidding. I'd never done a Broadway I play before and so I said I said Yeah. You can be a pest. I'm happy to do the workshop in your Broadway show with that amazing using cast and production team as kids go with you. Yes they did my friend. Jane came and she played nanny for us. We believe it or not the guy that played the part that I played fifty years earlier the original hank he was married to a woman that I worked with for for couple of decades on daytime. Robin Strasser was married to Lawrence Lokken. Bill Lawrence. Luck and bill played the original hanging. I played the Hank fifty years years later and I lived in the town house that he lived in fifty years ago when I was in New York with my kids and our nanny because his ex wife Robin still owns it and I rented rented it from her so it all came full circle but yeah we got to go spend the summer in New York. I got to take the kids that they were great. Little urban dwellers they loved the subway and the bus park and ridden incredible time well that was it was amazing to see a crowd. See that play I mean you. You know you saw it as well. No it was there are moments that are really shocking. I mean there's there's language that that we don't use anymore there. Is You know it's it's. There's a kind of self regard of gay men. You don't see too often anymore and it was it was interesting thing watching it land well. That play is sort of vilified. It's it's thought of these self. Loathing Group of gay guys were. We've were beyond that why why revisit that we've we've come so far. Let's leave that in the past and and move forward and I was kind of the same mind I thought why are we going to revisit that we we'll. Let's do new stuff but you know Ryan. Murphy said something not in the recent past. He said he said the world doesn't have the world needs. It's more LGBT history. Yeah it just does good or bad. We just need more. LGBT history and I agree with that and so we there was also something it was more than a play. I think you're right. There was it was nine out gay actors playing these roles and at the end of that play when the nine of US come to Lipa that stage and hold hands and take a bow. It really did feel like we were sort of moving the needle title. Maybe in the right direction fifty years ago. Nobody was out that was in that cast. Two thirds three quarters of them were gay but they couldn't be out and even the guys that were straight that were in it. It affected their careers. They lost jobs and fortunately we're. We're standing on their shoulders and our my life is better having played that part. It's kind of ironic that my life and career we are better having played a character whose life was worse because he was gay so thank goodness that we've made need the strides that we have. I heard audible gasps from the audience when I was there that was that was when Burma was taking his clothes off in the shower. That's definitely that's for sure one of them. He does that in the movie also note it. It'd be gas for that as well and let's take a quick break. There's a hilarious new comedy podcast called shame on you hosted by two single gay guys in Toronto Canada. 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That's for sure new episodes of shame on you drop every Thursday on all players in a North American. Tour dates are at their instagram at shame on you pod that is shame on you. The podcast it back refreshed sure February okay so okay so Kansas City Saint Louis Kansas City then then where'd you go. At what point did you did you had west. I go east after I graduated college. I knew I wanted to go to New York or La.. I knew I wanted to be an actor but I graduated with a degree in telecommunications. My Dad paid for my college and he thought you know maybe maybe do something more practical and I agree it but I knew I wanted to give acting a shot and I thought I can struggle near the beach and palm tree or I can struggle in near the subway and that gutter juice that goes through the streets of New York so I thought let's give it a shot. I share so I moved to. La and I had plenty of reasons reasons to say this stinks being cut out of growing pains being fired by saved by the bell. Those are things that are indications that maybe should be doing something else right but there really is a lot to be said for two nasty and for one more than they. They don't want it for you so I was in. La For four years my first job was on one life to live that moved to New York. I was there for a couple of years. I said that's enough. I'm going to go back to Ellie and become movie-star now so I did move back to. La I did not become a movie star but I did get some some episodic work and then I was a series regular on on a showtime series up in Canada for a show called beggars and choosers. I got to do the movie the mummy over in Africa and England and then there were a couple of years where I didn't work at all and thought it's over so I called the soap opera and said do you think I could come out of prison and they said yeah so impacting for about three years ears and they did off Broadway and then move back out to la again to become a movie star. That didn't happen again but you know I've had I've had lanier's and I've had really good years and I think I learned early on and maybe it's from being from Kansas City and Saint Louis that I I did sort of squirrel away my money. I didn't spend what I had I did ah I'm always preparing for a rainy day and there have been plenty of rainy days so that I have been able to sort of whether the storm in a way so when when it comes and I'm flush with it and you know when I was in Kansas City for the last three years. I really went there thinking I'm GonNa. Change my life. I was tired of being the most important person in my own life and that's why I had kids through surrogacy and so I thought well. Let's really put my money where my mouth is Let's leave Hollywood. AH LEAVE NEW YORK. Let's go home. Let's funnel my energy into raising these kids who were just three years old at the time and I kind of got my feet back order me and once. My kids turned five. I felt like I was a contender again to reenter the wild whether that's New York and right right now it's it's. La and so you know it's just it's it's just another chapter. I think I've made so many decisions in my life thinking the decision. I'm going to make right now is going to be for the rest of my life and that's not really how it works but it feels like it is when you're making that decision so I think I've just gotten a little bit better being a dad. The the focus is on myself as much and when the focus is an on myself as much. I think I'm making better decisions. You mentioned you came out later in life. How did that go well. Let's see I was twenty three. I'm fifty three now and I was twenty three when I did that. I say late only because it was after college so at that time it was kind of when guys my age Kinda. It came out. We didn't really come out in high school or college like people can and do now thank goodness but it wasn't until I moved to. La and I met I met some people that I felt like identified with as opposed to the caricatures I saw on TV or the things I was afraid of. I thought Oh maybe I'm that and so that's what I was able to identify okay. I think that's me and so I I was able to come out. I was able to you tell my sister and then tell my family and then I started telling friends but that was what that was thirty years ago now and you always out professionally. No I hesitate because I've never been in inner personally like if I ever met you or if you've ever met me or if we ever worked together you knew I was gay and I was open about it but I I never told a reporter or went on a talk show to talk about it and frankly it was because I wanted to work mark. I was scared. I was afraid that if I came out that I wouldn't get to be actor and I was more interested in being an actor and doing the things things that I wanted to do van Vince to stand up for myself. I don't know it was it was it was a hard time but it wasn't it also wasn't I wasn't tortured. I did start to get tortured when I was playing a gay guy in desperate housewives but I wasn't out and like I said everyone around me but I even remember doing an interview for USA. Today and the reporter said you're a gay right. I mean everybody we know that and I said well no. I don't want you to know if I'm gay and I thought what did I say that and that opened a whole can of worms and I thought that's that's that's not the right road. That's not the truth and so there's also this sort of double standard where unless you have a platform to come out if you if you try to come out but no one's giving you the opportunity and it looks like a publicity stunt and I I was I was asked to be on the Marie Osmond show to talk about being a dad in the project I was. I said I said yes but I want. I specifically want to come out and they said you want to come out on the Marie Osborne husband. Joe Is like I'm running out of opportunities and and so I I did and I think it was because yes I didn't want to be a dad to these kids who had a hard time telling the truth about who he was and frankly it was long overdue but it was just it was a stain on me. I come from a generation where it was so hard to do that. It was so hard hard to do that as an actor and still want to play James Bond. I was wondering James Bond and there's no way they're going to hire a gay James Bond. I mean if you think about it now. They might now but a long time ago or not that long ago that they weren't going to so it was it was a rocky okay road for me but if everything does happen for a reason we do it when we're ready. I think if someone had forced me out earlier it wouldn't have gone well for me. It wouldn't have gone well for the quote. Unquote the cause but I really feel fortunate that I've been able to recently. I've really only play gay guys and you know if people think you're going to be pigeonholed you. You don't play guys now. Well that's to quote Andrew Reynolds. He said well that's to assume that there's only one way to play a gay guy and there's so many different kinds of gay gay guys which is which is true and so it's it's. It's just been this whole I think it's I envy people people who are half my age who don't trouble themselves with this the way that I did and I think people in my generation. Did I really envy that and applaud them because you can can. I mean what we didn't have. In the ninety. S was it was social media in a way to like kind of cultivate your own and sort of image the goes out into the world as you said if you wanted to come out you needed somebody to amplify that message which is a weird weird thing so it has to be an announcement yeah than just a part of you. Yes like we weren't in control of it. We we had to be given opportunities and if you were just on the street corner or screaming about it it. It seemed like you were doing it for the wrong reason somehow or I've never been quite able to reconcile. What's the right way to do it with what was right for me wasn't but I did get to where I am now and I. I am a pretty happy successful guy and I think because I've I've learned a lot from the people who came before for me so what was college like for you sort of not not even in the closet just sort of pre aware certain well. Let's see I was in love with my best friend in college which was torturous yeah. He was aware of it. I told him and he couldn't have been cooler about it. He's still probably one of my three best friends today and I. I was saying to him recently. I said man. You're a really good friend. I put you through the ringer and you stuck around and I said why did you do that. Why don't you why would you deal with this sky and he said Lsu Fun and you know sort of discredit ourselves for the worst. People in the world is a cloud over us. We can love us but what I regret about. I loved college. I love going to college. I had so much fun. I wish I had studied architecture texture. I think that might have taken me down a path. That would have been really fulfilling but I do feel like things like joining a fraternity were things that kept me from learning who I really was so in a sense it it stunted my growth. I think if I had actually either knock onto college and went straight into being an actor in La or New York or if I had sort of open doors or is it would have led to a place where I knew myself a little bit better a little bit sooner. I'd be that much further up the pyramid towards self actualization but at the same time I had a really good time I I make good friends. I learned a lot. I am so glad I have a background in theatre that I can draw on what I'm doing TV and film I'm I'm. I was in the library in Burbank today reading Harold Pinter. I don't think I would have done that if I hadn't learned to. That guy was in college so this best friend and now in college. How how did you were you. What was your relationship like. Let's see I here's what it was for me. I in high school and College I didn't. I didn't think I was was gay but I thought what I did was. I wanted to be just like the people I was attracted to share so this guy who was my best friend. I want her to be like him. He he would wear two pairs of socks and he would wear to shirts at the same time I started doing that. I started liking liking the food that he liked. I just wanted to be around him and I'm sure everyone around me thought. Tucks love that Guy Guy Yeah and they were right but I didn't think that at the time so it was it was a it. It's the same something back back and forth grade I think about I wasn't sexually interested in my best friend in fourth grade but I sure like the way his Puka Puka. Shell necklace looked on him and I remember thinking that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen so. It's funny. How we we take these things that we can go back and look at it and go well. These are these are clear indications of who I was but we put them into a category to make it okay so that we can keep moving forward right and so then when you're in your twenties and you're in. La And you're out in your personal life how what's dating like well. I went to the same bar every Friday night and the same embar every Saturday night and I thought if I didn't go home with a different person each time I was a failure far well. Let's see Friday nights. It was studio one which is now. I think the factory Robertson and Santa Monica how I wore my white velcro high tops my beach jam pants has tuck them into my high tops op chess. I was a terrible dancer but you know you drink enough to kill and everybody's a good dancer and Saturday night was catch one which doesn't Sandison yeah and there's a roller skating rink down there. Oh Wow so dating yeah I I I've had I've had I would say four loves jobs in my life and the first one was when I first moved out here to. La and it was two weeks of bliss and then two years of torture richer and it was fun. I didn't come out of the closet. I was shot out of a cannon from the closet when I when I moved to. La and it was great. Great was necessary. It had obviously been a long time in the coming because I I really did sort of catapult out. I remember her. I remember hearing about what this thing called. West Hollywood was when I lived in the Mid West and I thought I can't wait to get to that place. It sounds like Nirvana and I sort of treated it like Nirvana for a long time you know I drank and partied and had a great time and attempted relationships and learned learned through the whole thing and fortunately survived it and then okay so then you would go to New York. You're back and forth fourth in New York same basic idea yeah Santan different coast New York a lot of fun. You know all those nooks and crannies you you can get into and yeah you feels anonymous and a really great way. I loved I've lived in New York. I think three times I love it. I'd like to live there again again but now with my kids I I do feel like I've grown up. I don't feel like I know it all but I do feel like I live differently now. I'm I'm really glad the way that I live differently. I still so when I when I go back to a place like New York when I if I live in New York. It will be in a different way. You know I was forty six when I had my kids and I thought I want the second half of my life to be about them because because the first half was all about me and it was fun but when we think of ourselves it's sort of a road to thinking what you don't have as opposed to and I think I'm just just that I'm happier with kids. I just feel like I I kinda. Rights is the world a little bit better. I enjoy things I am better at staying sort of in the present as I've always told we're supposed to we're supposed to live in the present. I never really knew what that meant or how to do. It and I think I'm better at doing that with through my kids ed since you since you have been a single dad since they were born. Is it complicated to date to get into a relationship yeah. It was actually in a word impossible as a single dad with babies not knowing what I was doing. I had just gotten out of a relationship about a year prior with my partner twelve years and so after my kids were born I went. I got on tinder. I signed up for tender and I went on the same tender date eight different times with eight different guys and that was one lap around Runyon Canyon and a cup of coffee at the coffee bean on sunset because I don't like sitting at a two top and being locked into that where you're forced perspective with someone where you talked talking about where you came from. I like to see how a guy moved and she's smell like in the you know like a little sweat you know that kind of and it was no one's fault mm-hmm but the people that you meet on Tinder. Those pictures are never the people that show up are they. I'm sure I'm the same way. There's something about meeting someone in person that makes you think yes. I'm interested or no. I'm not just when you're just seeing pictures for me. Never just really worked out so I did about eight of those and I thought this this isn't this is not not right now and I was overwhelmed and so I just kind of put that on the back burner and I never intended to be a single Dad Dad but that's what it was for the first long time and it's only it's only recently that that has changed Sarah Saint Someone now yeah. I've I've been I have been and I have talked about it so it's feels a little well. It's new I guess but I started seeing someone in from the boys in the band last summer when we were doing to play and then that SORTA got reunite reignited united when we started doing the movie and I think the world of him and his name's Andrew Reynolds and the world of them to do I mean you spend a good thirty minutes of the last like the last thirty minutes of play in the background well yeah at the end of that play a we go up the stairs and we we lay in bed together while Jim Parsons axes heart out down there on the in the main stage and people always said what are you guys doing up there and put I always wanted to say was exactly what you were doing but yes so you know we we. We didn't really date last summer. We were in a play eight times a week and we played partners replay boyfriends in the play so it's not like we started going dinners museums together and you know holding hands on the west side highway it just started to get more and more intimate and it was it was and is really nice and does he met the kids. Oh yeah yeah well. My son makes it very easy my my son and greets everyone with a smile and a hog and he's so happy there my daughter however can be a little more difficult and she will say things day. Andrew you like you're here again or when are you going home and but she does it with a bit of a twinkle in her eyes so I think she gets away with it and what I what I tell. Andrew was when he's not there. She's constantly talking about him. She's always asking. Does he like this. That will he do that because he he gave her a ponytail wants and I can't do that. I I will try to do it but when I've tried to do it you cry. She said well. Andrew can do it and I said well next time anders. There's over here. Maybe he can give ponytail. Nice so you guys are both in the public eye and you're kind of your your you're beginning to be out about the relationship is that is that a conversation. You've had half or yeah he we actually we talked about it earlier this week because his publicist said I just got an email asking to confirm infirm the Tucker dating. What are you going to do and I said well? I'm about to go to this podcast where they talk about sex and love and dating and I'm not sure how I can. I said I WANNA be. I'm going to honor your privacy but at the same time I would like to scream at the mountaintops how much I care for you and he said well. I'm I'm going to tell my publicist to say yeah and you can say whatever you want on the air so I think it's it's new. I'm not trying to be quiet just feels it's it's. You haven't had that much practice talking about now. Is that layer of complexity. I mean other people lar- involved publicists are involved right. I mean I the last time I dated an actor. I was in my twenties and I remember thinking when that was over one an actor family please so it kind of breaks a rule and a sense. You know I gotta say one of the things that I really like about. Andrew is that I don't feel you like occupy. The same space most of my previous relationships we were about the same age we were sort of the same type hype and we we unintentionally competed for the same space and it just we butted heads unintentionally but it was there nonetheless and I I I feel like I feel like my my the way I interact with. Andrew was very complimentary and I like they quit he is and what he offers in what he's good at and there are things that that I am not good at and I rather than I'm not jealous of a bit nor do I try to be it. I I appreciate it and I think when I was younger I couldn't do that. I think that's more of a function of experience in age and now you're gonna be working together again. Yes yes we were doing black Monday. I'm playing his love interest on season two black Monday so who knows maybe we'll be a London Fontaine or Richard Burton and Taylor without hopefully without all the scream I I have to get back to this that the the last chunk of the boys in the band. You're in silhouette right. You're kind of getting getting to know each other right you mean. The two actors are good yeah. Well yeah you and Andrew are just kind of getting to know. Each other did did a spark happen and like onstage. Let's see I don't know what happened because we we started out. It was very professional. I remember immediately thinking. I really appreciate how affectionate he is. He was just he's very kind. He's affectionate affectionate to everyone. He works with and and not in a weird like he wants to kiss. Everybody affection away he just he he put me at ease like he puts people at ease that are in his his presence. He he made me feel good about myself that kind of affection and yet in the play he and I are fighting the whole time and it would be funny because people would say oh. You guys have such great chemistry. How do you see our chemistry. All we do is fight in the play. How do you how do you see any chemistry and someone said what at Curtain Call. You are holding each other's hand. I said we are and the truth is at the curtain call. He and I come from upstairs in the stage goes dark and he he would go down the steps and reach his hand back up the stairwell to grab mine to help me come down so that I wouldn't fall down the stairs but when the lights came up we continued holding each other's hand when we didn't have to and I didn't I don't think I was aware of that until I saw photos online of US holding hands where we didn't have to hold the hand and I think somehow it introduced the fact to me that that I think maybe I like him. In a an offstage kind of way I guess offstage stage kind of way and it's such an intense play and I would imagine that it has bonded you and the other actors that you're not dating also in you know for life and after doing the play and you've just wrapped the movie. Was it hard to say goodbye. It was but you know the nine of us are on a text thread together so we're constantly sending silly little joke making each other feel dumb and things like that but recently there was a picture of Brian and Charlie together. They ran into each other at the gym in New York. They took a picture and they put it on the thread. Fred and I made a comment that when two of our together it feels like we're all assembled and there is it does feel that way. I mean it did what kind of feel like this these nine it kind of felt like the Justice League felt like we were all wearing a cape and we all have a different superpower something like we're out fighting for justice and like we're here we're queer and so you know in a year. We'll do press for the movie all come back together. We're constantly back and forth New York and it was more difficult to say goodbye after the play a year ago. Oh because we didn't know the movie was coming out and now that we've done the movie we got even closer and so when that came to a conclusion I think we all realized we're not gonNA see each other a lot but there is a shorthand I think we've developed with each other and because of the way our phones work and social media works were were kind of right there with each other other and if one of us does something silly in the press were the first to call each other on it. Now you mentioned that the movie rekindled things thanks for you and Andrew. What what what did you guys do between the play well. I went back to Kansas City. Yeah not knowing what I was going to do. I knew I wanted wanted to move to L. A. or New York boys and sure what I was going to do. He went to L. A. to do the first season of black Monday but he lived in New York and it was just kind of like this unknown like like what are we going to deal with so it just kind of naturally dissolved a little bit yeah but then in May when I was doing a pilot and he was out here for for some stuff we had sort of we had sort of receded to just sort of check it in on each other here and there but when he knew I was out here doing this pilot he said. Can I take you on a date and the trumpets blared in the clouds parted and I was yes yes and it's kind of went from there adults about yeah and if I'm going to put my money where my mouth is about the second half of my life is putting my children. I then it's going to be. I'M NOT GONNA make decisions. It's like whoa where's my. I'M NOT GONNA put my love life. I and what I found with Andrew is I. I don't have to do he. He he very naturally is sort of a self starter around around my kids. It's not in a way that feels like I want. The Guy who I like. I want his kids to like me. It doesn't feel like that he's not like the baroness from the sound of music you know he's he's not. He's not that person it just kind of it. Just has been happening really naturally in in a really terrific way. Where'd you go on your date the we went to it's on the it's bourbon the mark. Oh actually I think it's called the Market Street cafe in downtown Burbank because I was staying at a hotel in Burbank so he came over and we went to the Market Street cafe and when we were we're actually walking by their last week. We thought Oh let's go in there and have dinner again and it said closed permanently so we closed that place down it was not it was not a remarkable restaurant means but it was remarkable evening beautiful. This was a remarkable conversation shing. Thank you thank you so much for for being here and so we have to wait till next year for the movie. Yeah you know I think Netflix has lined up in such a way that they're that far out and do we know how far out I'm told it's October of twenty twenty so we have ugly ear ear to wait so until then you can you can rent the original boys in the band nineteen seventy and and Black Mondays on the second season you can you can watch the first season with Andrew in it right now him and Don Cheadle and Regina Tall Paul Scheer who's right over there. He's like sitting parallel to you in the studio funniest guy in the world and then so season two that we're shooting right now. We'll come out next. Brian can't wait grace. Thank you so much you. Thanks you guys

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2423 - Kyle Anderson

Never Not Funny

2:39:28 hr | 2 years ago

2423 - Kyle Anderson

"This is Tony Oscar. God knows and we are Spanish Aki presents. We have a brand new podcast here on air wool and we'll be bringing you the best of the heart of ladder next comedy join us for new episodes every Tuesday God. I'm out of this present is out now. Listen in stitcher apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Chico. Please don't take this person go. He's hair everybody. The great announced there is here. Don't eat my soup where you're talking spoon shears. We're talking about prostitution Sharon bellio murdering no yourself. I'm the Tom Hanks podcasting. I'm here now. Kidneys Hair live on team. It's the fastest our in podcasting. This is never not funny now. Now here's your host Jimmy Pardo Helluva D._D._S. welcome to the program so twenty four twenty three after much special prior guy controversy here in studio as to what episode number wasn't it shouldn't Aben just takes a look down at our computers are no pattern notebooks and so on and so forth and see what was all four of us. Keep track of this since our on several way and so we we eat chick. Are we have to cross check it every time that'd make sure it's right and <hes> across checking today involved <hes> people getting upset people getting very angry flummoxed frustrated when that happened. I made different predation of course none of that happened that would be that would be insanity that that happened insanity and I stopped doing that in the late eighties with Susan. Oh stop it so the late eighties early nineties. I duNNo <hes> I'm GONNA say early. Nineties Yeah probably right probably ninety four eight ninety four yeah you happy with it goes all the way back radiate. Bush's seems doesn't seem she does but as as with many things in the nineties things along. They're kind of bled that long. Would you say you say eight six six this year's six years of students <hes> Yes yes I do well. I mean who knows she may still be doing whatever program Mark Win. It ended. Oh was there a T._v.. Show I thought that was a program or or is that she had her own talk. Show cheated the Susan powders okay. When was that on ninety four ninety four we started out to ninety four with my guests? Ninety four would have been the tail end of that right because she had the pill to hey. We should give her a show. People like nope. No she crunches. Why are we assuming it began and ended in the same year? It'd sure wait to see when her first infomercial came out is that in her first book Nineteen Ninety Three Ninety three while he was passed push for Susan using T- stop that acidity quickly yeah she shot right up and hit the sun and came back down in a pile of ashes. We can we send her to the White House. Is that possible to stop the insanity worth a try. I bring that buzz cut over there and the Oval Office to see our president react to that. He'll be very confusing scared. I would imagine by military haircut. You know what to do haircut. I don't know Garrett amend whom hi Johnny Susan powdered milk and making fun of myself from up the milk look like a masterpiece permanent very purpose. She's got some hair now does she. We thought <hes> they match the drapes that we're looking good job while she's amazing actually though she really yeah if this is I don't know recent this picture is share that with the rest of us. That's loading is is it. Maybe just a different person named Susan better. Oh It's not gonNa let me download the picture now. It's like a video real. Show is still image. Yeah I mean. What did you see your like? It's still loading but use it clearly saw a play button in the middle of it can't be sent her yeah no way no way. It's her click play. I want to know what's going on. It's just it's still yeah. You're telling me that that is got to be like fifty five year old Susan powder. She's sixty one. There's no way that women sixty one year. That's a lot of I apologize sexist. I don't think it does signing with your meal here. That's a lot of airbrushing. That's a lot of unnecessary airbrushing. There's no way sixty one year. Old Woman looks that great well. There are great looking system. When you're old women and men I wouldn't even I mean greatest hits? I would say no. She looks very young Jamie. I mean so when people say I'm seventy two. Oh you look great. They're suggesting you look young right. That's what I'm getting yeah yeah well. I mean if I got another picture where essentially I mean you're not gonna be able to tell anything from that looks great but she looks essentially the same but when you see a close up of her she looks like a person who you know could be a well preserved sixty eight years old just two thousand eight so that was a while ago. It's eleven years ago yeah. There some worked on their maybe no. I don't think so those are some shiny cheekbones. I was just with makeup yeah the main thing that I'm getting the plumage that is on a topper head. The other way is very the she's. She's styling herself to look like a twenty something person something from the Matrix. Maybe maybe yeah yeah that that I'm going to I mean maybe she has dreads but I'm GonNa Guess. That's not her natural hair. You think she's wearing a wig of some sort or A. We've is seems more likely <HES> I. I'm not an expert. I don't know she's definitely seems to have kinda fallen off the a face the earth although she does have a book apparently called the politics of stupid so maybe your theory of sending her to the White House make sense <hes> plus also the white. That's about liberals. I mean I guess that's possible. I don't know I don't know her politics but he but even even then you know she would you welcome to the movie some folk two years in that. Let's see if it's on sale for prime day big big walkout to Romney's tomorrow Doa today right today tomorrow the politics of stupid the cure for obesity <music>. I hope for to do with your that your dumb according to powder just voted the wrong way and it's because you're yeah we all make mistakes now. Listen one bringing this conversation. Let me take full responsibility good Glenn hundred percent on me. I brought it up. I regret it deeply. Everything that's happened since has been bad now. Listen I had a celebrity citing on Saturday night. A celebrity celebrity citing is not worth that much I saw celebrity citing on Saturday night Saturday night at a celebrity citing any daily no were you at a concert. I was and was at the dodger stadium. I'm GonNa tell you which concert I was at. No not at this moment celebrity was on the stage. I was Gonna ask counts last night. It's not count this'll they were not on there was not the person who was not the person that's Asia. It'd be ridiculous. That's the way you cut off. The song makes me think it was just like you saw Elliott or something well. He didn't go to Nazi. Elliott's Erin ready to garyk cockerel at the city of lauper didn't run a new one we texted him to say. Are you here and what happened because I saw an article said there was she stepped on a beer or something Friday but she sure talked about it Saturday night on boy she is a an I just an absolute joy right. She's an absolute joy. Here's my thing with Cindy lauper music great but I can't help it feel like she's just a little unusual here we go. She's so unusually well well. You said it not me yeah. She in the first half hour played a total the four songs at talked to the rest of the time. I welcomed it. I watch the one person show just her talking text you ask are we city Loppers Netflix special taping yeah it was she's she's very funny. She's very in the moment <hes> the only she's a little nuts obviously but the only problem I love her. She will sometimes start a conversation as if we've already all been talking and she just wanted me to finish this. We don't know what you started I but it was I went to Garin had some terrific seats <hes> I decided to six P._M.. On Saturday was GonNa go got myself a nice seat sitting behind the four people that <hes> as I texted <hes> guarantees because basically it was one of those Hollywood bowl events. It wasn't a produced event. It was a bowl event and that just means like subscribers scribner's and stuff. It's just a all rich white people night <hes> and I was in the rich white people drunk area and the people in front of me. Were the ones that went you know the one study lauper. Would that be ironic confront. Let's do that and that's what it was and then finally I just I was like I don't I went and sat even worse seats but was to get away from their get away from that and then enjoyed it so I went up about <hes> about twenty rows uh-huh and to find some space and <hes> one point she's talking about her whole set which was great was built around the power of women she built the whole show around the power women. She spoke about that throughout the show and she doesn't song called hope which is about hope and so she's in this bring heartfelt thing about you know we're living. We're times but we all have to be together as people but we get by if we only have and the asshole it brought to be part of this group of assholes goes aww WHO's boy. I thought you were to say dozen other things that would have been didn't yeah demand said it was then laughed as if it was the funniest thing in the world and that was when I went and that's what I finally because it's like dude. She's talk. This man was gay and it's like if there's anybody in this room this theater she's talking about you. She's talking about people that are bullied and and and and ostracized and your you so don't give a shit marginalized. Thank you anyway. That's chose Greg Aaron. Yeah I loved it enjoyed. It was one on Song. I realized that she didn't do that. I wanted to do when you were mind. Oh I forgot about that one. Which one do change of Heart Change Your habits the want me to yeah but it doesn't fit what she was doing? It's she was doing a lot of love saw fit because I had the same argument about the about the talk to you didn't do which was when you were mind and change of heart they change apart would've fit because like she talks about her marriages air. I heard about the men in her life and all that I think it would have worked nicely yeah that makes sense when you when you're getting up to move. Did you consider going and sitting on Barron's lap. <hes> there was no room because the guy behind me got up every five fucking minutes switch to ten them because they were in the in the box hawks and so he and his buddy buddy you not in your father vernacular you and your buddy you sat side by side Yeah but if you went tandem one of you in front of the other one because those people were there when they're all day decided it yeah they were. They were simply squadron in place yeah and then time after time came on which was a very prince sounding version. That's long. I don't know if that occurred to you now because the guitar it was like Qatar Electric Guitar and then her Dulcimer but that was was playing it was reminiscent of Prince two interesting anyway he started clapping along but way too fast really tem time is a slow song he won't like what are you doing stopped so so at knowing yeah a lot of people there tonight. It takes a lot to be the only person clapping along those on the whole crowd is clapping clap but if you're just like going rogue and I'm just GonNa I'm going to do it like don't you feel the societal pressure to not be doing like how do you block that out. People are in their own world man because you have to be if you're not even in time with the music so you're not listening anything I I don't know zeal with he was I just I don't know if it was his wife or girlfriend but <hes> in limited time that I was there talking with you and your buddy. She looked really unhappy. She looked as she looked miserable like she. He left early. They did leave them right. They left early. Jimmy could've come text me then it was it was the end of the show. What is it went right before she did that that was less than true colors? It was before that the one Assam right before that they got up and I'm like why would you leave before she drew callers even though she did a song I've never heard before yeah. There would love hate <hes> yeah. She brought out the the night before I get shared a different group at this nice she had the the choir from the Braille Institute so they were <hes> and then I know it again she is the cheese strikes me as the kindest nicest person but it was a little dirty funny during that they first of all the all started leaving and then she was yelling at them because they probably practiced when you're done you will all and the stage and that's an evil doer final song so they start doing that. She goes. She's like you guys go. We've got a bow and so she goes in wrangles them back in but then when it was time to leave she added get. I know there's no question she was being the kindest nicest person she kept. I go to these blind people walking out they'd be careful now. There's wires why're why why why right Gareth and generating she would say wire to each person's that had to the wire wire skirt charming Jarvis he was the stage manager. She set up their Mike's when they came out like organizer like what the lady like a couple boots over was like she's putting everything she send up two Mikes it was it was wonderful that regard and I was cracking up because it was like again kindness but they're blind they. They don't want to be kind of said if they don't have to walk also has didn't someone <hes>. It sounds like maybe maybe it was on her to deal with it. It seems like in that situation somewhat all I'm their handlers one gets them on doing both doing their wire wire. It was great eventually did true colors which again she did a preamble to and then I left be sobbing it it was beautiful it it was absolutely and it was she ended up doing half the final half and Song Acapella which was great because I'm GonNa say this guarantee even if you won't she was off key a lot throughout the show and I blame it on her monitors because when she threw callers without the ban Cappella pitch perfect and gorgeous but there were times like during drove all night oh my God she was well. She was doing this the whole time pointing at her machine but <hes> drove all night she was I drove on and I mean flat and eventually the great moments as well because it was a great joe. I went very glad I went glad I went. Garin sat next to a celebrity <hes>. I don't know his name yeah. No one who's GonNa know. His name is the first name Doug he said that the guy from blue's clues yeah ways up Stephen Joe Right <hes> <hes> what am I think of that cartoon card because the D. though right doesn't what's his first name fill. It's Phil does that help you out at all a famous person named Phil but are they know by another name or they just known without no one knows the name aim at all. It's just the you'd probably recognize him when he saw him but probably wouldn't realize what from and it's been on the air for since the dawn of television a decade minimum commercial show hosts a T._v.. Show he also had a made a documentary that I talked about on this very show about the the Tour de France since two thousand one thousand one almost twenty years the shows but on Phil it. Is it an interview. I want to say you used to watch the show. What has one EMMYS? Is it a like a food channel. Is that a it's a network show with a guy named Phil who we never I believe hosts it but we don't know his name. I don't think he knows name like how it works or oh. Oh Yeah Yeah. No I notice it's Phil. I want to see like it's not Keough Q. is it it's it's the host of the amazing Phil Cogan Kelly again Jagan Kagan behavior at the concert digger he was into it filming it. I told me was chatting the whole time during the opening no no no okay somebody some people came up to him and were like Lai see I misunderstood talking to him and like they were all. My wife works at C._B._S.. She's she's a production accounted like all right yeah. He does not know same circle shows insure yeah. We see what I'm on a cliff in. Sorry don't get down to the accounting cubicles from time to time yeah. It was very gracious. I'm very nice and they talk to him for far too long. They still there talking when I was there is that that because I said see what's going on behind me and they were there. Oh yeah they were there in the time that the entire time that I talked to Garin which was a long seven to ten minutes probably at least these two by all accounts now strangers yeah we're bothering host entertainment or an entertainment to my website production accountant was this or this is between the was there an opener. There was some women's name who I don't know but seal zeal. She was actually very good jazz but so you know yeah skinny BOP BOP stuff. She did on skinny pop up by US version. That's exciting flappers. They play yeah. I saw the Luzon's was that during the drum solo no god it was the most underwhelming Drum Solo. It was like five minutes what that law of I'm exaggerating because it was so weird jazz drummer so you're not getting that don't for five minutes. What are you going to love? You might appreciate that trump sola it was it was a little I'd I'd prefer Jedi Long Long. You want to brush. You need a brushing your soul as a reminder when I my very first day at the tonight show Brian when I said to Max Weinberg was telling me how to say people's names to introduce the band. I never said this on the air. I don't think they fear fear <hes> but Max was walking me through the how to introduce the band before <hes> for the warm up and then <hes> we were done and I went I go using brushes night Max and <hes> so you say that and I'll be Max Weinberg using brushes tonight Mac. There's not any time to talk you say the band and got off the stage or less Yep <hes> in the time that it took for him to yell at you. He could've gone all right. Let's move on just as easy quicker that was even even humorless. Li like no yes nope not not tonight and then walk out see out there right anything else but eh but but yelling at me it was my first conversation with Max Weinberg. It may have been and I might be wrong here. You're it might be it might I don't know how many times I talked to Max still been upset about the death of Clarence clements which hadn't happened yet wouldn't comfort other here. I think you think that he was running. It might have time comedy. He's got a plan to get back to his room hall. He's he he saw that you were good detective and he was like I can't let this guy too close to close way too many questions all right. I was GONNA stab him with my brush off the list brushes if actually if you put him into that thing just right could be a the <hes> the brush bristles push them out of that way that they push them out so that they fan out that way yeah. It's the coversation but get you able to go nope today. We're not talking music talking to whisks food food go somewhere else you go to your food cast talking whisks people relate relate to you you think specific I timed it. I got time for the last two x songs of the opening up again. My goal is to get their stay at home as long as possible and then head over there and I got there s pointed out that it was because it was a subscriber base thing a bunch of ridgway there are there on time having their little picnics and so on and so then I was able to one would think I was able to breeze right through the <hes> metal detectors and ticket situation but nope I got behind the six people that were a already tipsy and be apparently and never been through metal detector before I was telling here this at the concert and I'm and I'm not exaggerating. It would be everything out of your pocket. Spokes everything on your pockets everything in your pocket aunt cell phone to everything on your pockets folks you okay self anti everything on your pockets. Oh keys to everything out of your pockets and by the way not just the first person all six of them. All six of didn't watch each. Nobody learned from number six didn't learn from number one or five and then the woman the second during the woman that was waiting to then scan their tickets was going talk to me and the one person Miami thank you for your patience. Thank you thank you for your patients. I it was insane. It only soup powder. was there stop that what a wonderful show nice show yeah. I don't understand stand adults who they're just so excited about the idea that you can bring alcohol to venue. That's what it is. That's the can't they literally can't control themselves or be responsible human beings and just like and we'll be shit you you. That's what was me walking to my car with everybody dragging behind their empty picnic basket and things that but you just catch Quigley wow so cool right but you know when they first break out that wind that they try to do a secret like it's not allowed also you can buy wine in there and it was expanded. I wouldn't but yeah Yeah Yeah Oh checking out that meant that I drink that I was curious. How much the stuff cost? There's a five hundred dollar bottle of Champagne. You can buy buying Doug Keough goes in wine point. I sound interesting. He's got C._B._S.. Money he came over. I see your spending a little loose unit <hes> expensing that because this is not a company business if that was their way of strong arming like hey hey accounting seen a couple of interesting charges maybe subtler than that because this is like the mafia hey my wife's in accounting picture now in Amsterdam but he was wearing the he's in that documentary that I enjoyed documentary about ah conversation about the toward the Tour de France but he was at the concert he was wearing the exact same jacket whereas throughout the entire weird loved. That jacket jacket looks beautiful on them okay. It's one of there's rich people jackets that like like if you wear that I go costume but he wears it looks beautiful twelve of them in his glasses. Maybe you're right. Just keeps rotated no but I did start a doc <hes> this weekend. Oh what did you start at the series. Oh is on H._B._O.. Showtime actually I don't know even wrong on that. We ever seem to always always always seem to do we ever seen the do is doc doc. It's hard to say okay <hes>. There's a series new series on showtime <hes> about it's it's basically about Rick Rubin but it's almost equally about his studio in Malibu which says <hes> famous the famous Shangrila ranch <hes> featured in the earlier documentary by Martin Scorsese. The last waltz is where the band recorded and a bunch of other huge people recorded there and Rick Rubin bought it. I don't remember when <hes> they did not discuss that part of it in Dulles when he took over the least but <hes> but yeah it's cool you get I been kind of fascinated by that place because <hes> you know you hear about it and it sounds cool. It's like everything is painted white and the furniture's all white and there's there's no T._v.'s there's nothing <hes> the distraction free and right by the ocean so that's where a peaceful and <hes> and it's and you know it's like I said equally about Rick Ribbons work <hes> method which is also kind of interesting to me because he's not he's not a typical producer where he's again. They're turning knobs like he's more of like a guy who's just talking to the artists and he's got like a team of engineers doing all the as <unk> as Bhai former <hes> oranges co worker Ken Sluiter been featured it. No Ken is one of his <hes> his guys really Oh wow guy that he may have been and maybe I just didn't tall. I'll look out for his name. They've they've they've introduced a few of the people like the guy who manages the and a couple of the engineers but the engineers are all young guys so it wouldn't be wouldn't be the ones that I've seen on obviously forties <hes> he's younger than me but <hes> looks young okay and <hes> yeah it was a we worked at <hes> with Davor <hes> in Ken and then <hes> in Ken David I think I think they still talk every week. Wow Yeah here's something you'll hate about this documentary march. They do a thing where they ah when when Rick Rubin is talking about childhood they've reenacted scenes of his childhood using a child actor wearing a big white beard long white hair like a bald cap with white. It looks like a child but with no there's no like ha ha about it. It's not like there's is not intended for humor is just kind of presented as this kind of interesting choice that they're you know what I mean. It's it's almost like a I want to say it's almost spike Jones move but even Spike Jones would have done it with more humor than this kind of like no that's. That's the young Rick Rubin Okay and it's a lot they do it a lot but you're enjoying it. I did like it yeah so I think it's four parts. Maybe for for one hour chapters or something like that. The Guy who directed at directed <hes> what you my neighbor that's the Fred Rogers and documentary and twenty feet from stardom. That's great yeah that won an Oscar. I think a lot of good stuff. She's kind of surprised we don't really hear about talking to the filmmakers like that a lot except for what's his San Berno. Ken Burns was more but yet can burn burn yeah. There's there's a few guys that sort of have like Marquee Kinda. Make it about themselves. We'll be like can burn doesn't necessarily but he puts his name where he does. Michael Moore does the Sherlock with his name spurlock Lilac and then you know about yeah. That's when it's just a director how many directors you really know. The name says he Tarintino Tarintino but again turns. You don't have makes it about himself. You errol. Morris is a Guy Hi who's just famous. <hes> hasn't really put himself in it. Although maybe more in recent years he did but just has made a ton of great documentaries like the thin blue line and <hes> fog of war <hes> but yeah he sort of become a celebrity documentary the sense that he's people point to him as being excellent could you if you saw starbucks. Would you know who it is now. WHO's that nature guy you consider what he does documentaries right where we go the knife got that was named Merlin Olsen? What's his name is Olsen? Yeah Merlin Olsen Olsen Olsen Olsen Olsen yeah the guy he was on little Husna Prairie Yeah but he also did that shoot. I probably I'm thinking could've <hes> not the why we're all the sports. What's the documentary nature show mutual of Omaha kind of similar name? Maybe who's Olsen <hes>. It's Laura Wild Kingdom yeah. What was what's his name? It's the same initially that's the isn't that the sports thing yeah <hes> your it's Marlin Perkin mother permanent. Thank you again uh-huh Merlin now. We need to hear that theme okay. Can you find the opening of wild mutual of Omaha is wild king love that as a kid to God. There's at one part where the where the lions going after something or is it a bird swoops down in graduate swooping at all it turns out. Just Tiger turns out this music memorable or interesting as I thought it was. I'm not so sure this is the director of the Saint Louis Zoo Garin. Our guest is here. I'm sorry to interrupt this Jim Fowler Yeah. Well Jim Fowler on the tonight. Show just let that play. Oh three dudes with legitimate on my God Garin laptop just came wow maybe <music> an inch and a half from going off that table smashing I had it on camera and it would have smashed. There's actually angle and he's GonNa fall with the hinge break. Who knows this was going to be what look another haircuts coming? Manila Kyle Anderson comes in to show his head of hair off and fair encounter and keep your headphones off for a second Linda Elliot on a shot of that guarantees gone berry shaved on the side there. He's flopping it over. Is that a Mohawk no well. I don't know if you made it you could do is it buzzed on both sides right. That's what Mike Schmidt cut. Do you have do you have the well. The MOHAWK would go all the way down the back. That's I guess the question I'm asking. Is it or not yes. It's buzzed in the book got a kind of a bowl thing going back there. Meanwhile Kylie Anderson's auditioning for lost boys boy you did just by walking in we knew we were looking for. We don't if you could act at all but you gotta look what you're looking for the Brady your your Greg Brady if at the suit would you have to episode of the Brady Bunch he wasn't a he fits the suits the only reason they got the job sure Johnny Bravo. Is that the character name Oh. I'm not familiar with the WPRO never watched the Brady Bunch never watched the Brady Bunch. We all did except for one Weirdo in this little younger than us much younger would have been in repeats or something in syndication when I was growing up. Let's write Saad. I wasn't watching it on Friday night. I might have mainly maybe once or twice at the injury could I it was it was done by the time I was enough to but it was already. I just remember being an after school to the situation. I think I watched that in and <hes> the Waltons I think I watched in. I run when I was a kid which to last Saturday nights when I was just a boy I want to say Saturday nights. I could be right. I don't remember what nine sheils merely a child. I can't be expected. Remember nights programs run. The thing thing about the Brady bunch to is in my life. It was even when it was not when when it was only in syndication it was such a touchstone in comedy that you had to know. It was referenced. Yeah you're right in comedy for maybe paid ten to fifteen years after ended so you sort of had you knew it. Even if you didn't know you would but I felt like a pressure to be familiar so it was like I better watch those I gotTA keep up on my Brady Bunch. So I understand Kristan these jokes I wanted to understand Dennis Miller's fourth Joe Right <hes> you got the you gotTa. You have to six kids. I guess three from each to me. It's a story of a lovely lady okay who was bring up three very lovely girls all of them. I'll agree with that had hair gold like their mother okay. The youngest one in curl earlier hit a fair one day this lady N._F._l.. Okay we know anything about this. Go wait. I'm sorry I've forgot one part. Yeah you've got you've yeah I got so excited about what happens. Yeah Act to introduces a man named Brady checked. What is it no one is the lady lovely lady? Here's the story of a man named Brady. No he's busy with three boys of his own second apologies of lovely okay. It's got to be kind of a big deal that there's you know it's a story of divorce or or just and then go parenting. I think almost never touched on it. I I don't know I think there were both widowed. Widowed still single parents in the movie the sequel movie he her husband comes back remember yes yeah so he and who was that actor Tim Matheson was it the Fletch it may have been I. I don't remember but I do remember. I'm Louise Better move. People give him credit for. I concur argument didn't last long at all <hes> my Tim Matheson it is okay. The whom I think of WHO's <hes> Buzz Yeah Harry Buster Yep Yep yeah can't take your hand off the do you think when that laptop almost fell you gain sue superpowers with my three sixty that wasn't there is impressive Kyle. You missed it. GARIN got up to go and get you and his laptop with inches from being destroyed. Is that what other Ruckus was area. You've never seen the sloth move of this quickly saved up the energy. You secretly have John Travolta phenomenon power secret care about that reference at all I got it. I remember very sad about that movie because it was on the heels of a poll comes that and Michael and also the white man's burden there was like there was he made so many movies after pulp fiction and it was like Yeah Travolta's back and then he was like just squashing everyone's excitement so we're going to think but phenomena and Michael were both huge hits. I thought they stunk Oh. They're bad movie yeah. They're back they made when they were. That's the power of his star pulp fiction comeback because everyone was like all see a movie where John Travolta is an angel just excited that he was back even though he never went away it just he they were all direct to video or one week and out disagree movie he did with our Gross Yeah. It's about the spurts hurt the expert. It's so good so great. They might be in his top three movies. It's really good pre pulp fiction. Yeah it's eighty eight rushing or something yes it's. It's the love this premise. Basically it's a town I don't I can't remember when they reveal in the movies politics the spoils ending basically in the middle of the Soviet Union. They've created a fake American town to try to train. I guess agents to teach them how when they go to America how to be American American and so they bring these two guys over to basically be like the guys who show everybody how how it works yeah so that is such a hugely eighties. Hi It's it's of course there inept and they ended under <hes> they run a disco a nightclub and Travolta's Great Ari Grossest Guy. You know everybody what's his name. It's not it's not Clint Howard. It's the other guy that looks. That's unfair to anybody. It's not a person who's the he's a he's a good actor. Brian Doyle Murphy Murray No Charles Charles Martin Smith Charles Martin Smith. He's married name the sauce face you know him instantly <hes> great movie yeah. That's what we met and greet unusually watch it show as watched experts. I think is a call the experts Thomas directed it. That's weird yeah. It's funny. It's like it's a weird movie. That's surprisingly funny and just like a cool idea for a movie that I don't even remember it coming out in theaters. I just thought on video like years after Kim gern eighty nine eighty nine I remember seeing the at the video. Store I with Jennifer <hes> and we went to blockbuster. Whatever and it's like that looks like <hes> we watch? It really never heard of this but it's great. There's some gems in the in the the home video era the the the rental video era. There's some weird movies that didn't make it but then they sort of everybody's sort of experienced them because they I don't know how it happened but it was everything got put on V._H._S.. V._H._S. was it must have been so at points so cheap to make and so ubiquitous the literally everything we've lost so much just from the V._H._S. era yeah but there's also weird thing that happened because in the nineties I feel like what happened was. The studios started pushing everything so when you walk into a blockbuster they're just be a wall of one hundred copies of whatever the biggest released was right that was guaranteed laptop. I wonder if actually if eighty nine it was still difficult to own V._H._S. tapes as consume it was it was before they are marketing for like eight dollars yeah but it was also just like I don't know I felt a little more like like meritocracy where like every copy. There was only one copy of every the video stores I would go to as a kid one copy of everything and use kind of look around Yo that looks interesting. It wasn't just you weren't just being hammered with the big name movies. Although I don't know I didn't go to a blockbuster I went to like a little local gave growing even our our local ones would have ten of the big move okay and then you know those my experience them but yeah I I liked that that phenomenon of of just like movies that any kind of deemed not worthy love theatrical release but they still had some to offer and you really were just playing on. Hey that cover looks interesting. You Know Yeah we've tried or you'd go. It's great like I never would have. I'd Sour Grapes Craig Beer Co.. Movie I only was like oh I recognize that guy from southern and I'll try that and I saw that movie in the theater opening night boy I did not see what was the circumstances where then even happened. I was excited to see it. I love sailed yeah. He was out for like shorter than its runtime yeah yeah. It was not long after I moved to L._A.. I think and I was just seeing I went to three or four movies a week and what was it. Was it ninety eight and maybe I I'm here in the news ninety six. I'm going to say <hes>. Let's see I was ninety eight. I'M GONNA say Ninety Eight. I think you're spot yeah. I mean I just I just remember. I remember going yeah. I'm in I like Seinfeld. This seems like a movie version Seinfeld with different actors. Let's do it speaking of Seinfeld Oliver's now on the Seinfeld these wow he's gone through the office gone through Shits Creek. He's gone through British office. He's gone through friends is he likes WREC. Yes he is. He is and I'll tell you something. There's a lot of funny. Still there sure there. I feel like I talked to a lot of young people who that's the show that they can't figure. They can't Seinfeld as the like. They're on friend Seinfeld's. I don't understand how this was so as big as well. I haven't done a deep conversation about it but he's been watching it quoting laughing. Hey Dad we saw the Zulu Jerry episode today we saw this and and then he he'll do is George. I hear him in the other room to enjoy doing yeah I would. I would think that Seinfeld would translate better than friends since friends with so much of its Hi as far as like the interpersonal things and sort of but it's a class it's classic Sitcom writing. I'm watching right now so like watching French yeah and I think the joke writings really really strong. The performances are all really great and and it's half soap opera so you can in that's kind of a timeless thing too but I would also think that there are some things that are cringe based on the way both think there there is designed fell times waymo. Yeah complained that I often hear from young people who currently have way more empathy than I ever done. He's these people are assholes premise right but they reject that like they they they refuse to by. Making bad is the hero story. I mean I think making more math and Jerry's apartment. It is weird like I've never thought of it. This way but Seinfeld is a very specifically kind of gen-x like conceptually gen-x geared comedy because it is cynical. It's it's kind of like yeah. Human beings are bad. They're awful and all we can do is laugh at four awful people trying to avoid all the other awful people in the world because that's what it is they are awful but so is everyone else and we sympathize and laugh at the fact that they're constantly buddy. I mean not always but but unlike curb where they were they make something but we relate to their struggles with the rest of the world being and quote unquote normal but in fact awful. That's that's my feeling. Is this like minor things that most people learn to just roll with don't roll with and the curb your enthusiasm yeah yeah but but but I I relate related to that and I thought it it was funny because it it is the little things are annoying especially when they pile up but but they weren't saying like Oh. It's hard because they pile up. There's no every little thing is annoying and we're going to overreact all of it as a reminder. I thought it was such a big deal that I called my adding clash assuming we'd have the night off because we'd all watch Seinfeld at home. I was no. We're having class over right there then. I assume we were shutting down like it was Mesh. I probably would have been because I mean that was a huge like cultural phenomena actors in Hollywood industry events. Yes I thought it was you were wrong. This is an example of a minor thing probably were accused of overreacting acting to that you're right. Those people are awful yeah. What was it Paul Gilmartin Carla for the House? Forget forget who else was the they had a little party so did you didn't want to leave the partnoy to class class. I went paid off your southern. That's up watching someone putting on. I Watch V._H._S. at my own apartment with D._V._R.. Thing at that point maybe just barely for me anyway. Maybe Tibo is it what yours ninety eight hundred eight so then it wouldn't have been because TVOS didn't come in until because I got one of the first tvos because I worked for the company that did the interface for whatever good information and so Elliott's parade yet the first time we've ever heard of this too I I've never heard of that. You got a Lotta open up this guy safe as unpleasant as Elliot you get fired thought of experience in your past Tibo was developed marketed and introduced nine hundred nine yeah so it would have been your and I didn't I got mine in two thousand two hundred and one that was all these people that miss the Seinfeld premier finale for their acting classes. Yeah I hear the V._H._S. tape to work out very well tape it <hes> that <hes> Tivo so still out there. What was the other what brand that I have? I had the other Oh yeah what was the other one called. It was supposed to be better TV. Replay it was it was supposed to be better because it would sense when the commercial came and stop and then pick back up that technology worked in two thousand two did I got mine at the good guys which was a one of the double letter Electronics Star Trek store here in town <hes> and I bought it is Pete Schwab and to this day I will never be able to do this but I went to. The guy was so helpful and I ended up getting a floor model at a great price REPLAYTV and I said point white guy you say his name was radical with Brad really helpful and Pete went. He's a good guy. Timing was beautiful. Lack idiot was called REPLAYTV Karen. Did you think it was right. Yeah that's what I had. I now now years later because I've had a t-bone over a decade but anytime I'll I'll sometimes watch something on youtube or whatever then we'll incorporate the little BOPs used to hear when you try to and it's a weird S._R.. Thing for me <hes> oddly comforted by being able to fast forward through television because I'm a shallow it was nice. I have to give not Elliott but whoever you worked with credit I didn't make the interface so soups I just had to work for that company and they sold they sold to as a discount to all technology now has had the I remember bought it there was there was one satellite coming in. I think it was <hes> dish dish that like licensed the interface for a while. I don't know if they still do and that almost made me switch to them because I hit is the pate Mike Cable and all the other ones it just it was good replay was founded in ninety seven. That's right. I was in early Betamax. I know I know for sure that I got it. After Tibo 'cause I could not afford. They launched the same year I see. That's that's weird <hes> yeah I wish wish I I don't know what to do. You know they I remember the second one I had <hes> you could get cable these cards from the cable. Come right and you stick them into the cable carney thing yeah but it was so complicated to get it setup and the cable company didn't want you to do it did not want you to do it so it would take multiple like service calls. I think right maybe wrong about this but my my memory it seems like I think the government stepped in and that's why the cable companies had to do it like there was some there was some they were legally required to offer these things but they didn't want to have their boxes. You'd have to pay them every month to to have the box Yeah Daryl speaking of interfaces you know my t._v.. Is Little old you wouldn't know it looking at up on my on T._v.. Stand stand it looks brand new but some of the <hes> who <hes> and M._l._b. and now a third we just got an email. <hes> will no longer be <hes> supported on this particular T._v.. That's so I had to get fire stick and I have never loved interface race Moore. It is phenomenal and the Forte one and it zooms and it's fast and looks beautiful is because I'm the Amazon prime streaming interface on on the P._S.. Four I'm not super excited about because it's just like cluttered and whatever and a P._S.. Four problem though maybe don't you feel like a lot of the stuff on P._S.. Four is feel a little funkier yeah yeah I agree because the net flicks interfaces I mean those universally stink but I feel like the one more maybe this has been all right. Listen Kyle Anderson is Harry's tickets. I'm away from not being on the entertainment weekly radio. Thanks reminded me to demand appreciate. You're not cancelled. The whole network went away. I was a part of the network but you have your own shows. Now on entertainment now were you could get those on demand on Sirius X._M.. On demand which you can get of course if you subscribe describe you can get it on your phone. Now you can listen to it outside of your car. They what kind of interface that got clunky right. That's not my favorite Kyle's a great friend of our show uh-huh and in honor of being here a little bit later. We're GONNA be playing shark flashback. Oh yes we play chart flashback. I'm into a mad his plate list of the top ten songs certain year in the this week in the eighties phenomenal nominal kyle and I were buzzing with the songs are home man so many angry middle aged women on twitter just got wrecked. Its ranks they did their people are missing chart flashback Yar so I said to Matico put this together. Let's do some production adoption on the show for a change more than happy to do much art junkie. You didn't take time at all. No time at all. The responded that text on then listen. I ended up after you sent that I was like this'll be fun for us. Let's see let's look at different years and then quiz each other whether we could <hes> like she would play it and I would see if I could name it and then I would play one and we go back and forth different years <hes> and that was fun to your welcome. Yeah I brought some love and joy to the Belknap house. I I just love how at any given week you can look at a chart and find songs that you remember but literally have not heard since year which is wind blowing in that way yeah and it's it's so crazy because you feel like our culture is so saturated saturated with nostalgia that you feel like nothing has ever had a chance to go away that it's always everything's always in your ears in your face so it's it's refreshing to be like Oh yeah this song. This is crazy. This was a song and the number songs that we've run across in the past Jimmy right in this place every week. Where at the time it was a gigantic ubiquitous weeks on end hit could not run from a song for love Normany and for some reason it just like didn't stick? I now from like big groups weird. There's there's a couple in this list that I think could qualify as that not from big reuss but just songs that were huge are gone that you don't hear even weirder when when Kyle would do the the rock chart sometimes the top one hundred did most of those ten songs already at some point so he would like the top ten rock chart up this week and then here like this was number two and you're like rush big money and it's like like that that's not even obscure around some weird are being Kevin Bean just at the thing on let me pull it up very quickly in the will be over to the Big table after the break. Let me pull this up on twitter because it was a platelets from pirate radio and and <hes> pirate radio now it was <hes> you couldn't really listen to it sounds great talking about actual pirate radio. Yes like the the guys who had just like. I can't you know this this week in nineteen eighty nine and I don't want to read it on the chance it pumps against your don't do but it's interesting in that the mix of songs pirate radio would play because woman who would be more out on the fringe out on the framers and it's like just some pretty mainstream stuff and number one is bananas for Pirate Radio Radio. I can tell you I'm not doing eighty nine. Here's eighty nine. This is <hes> hang on met Balabagn's. Thank you wait a minute it just going to be actually we got the Iraqi. Go anyone would actually do. It would be daily Ro do that. WHO's the gentleman shoot? I'd probably have a list of these guarantee. That movie was about the British that like offshore pyro right. That's that's very specific phenomenon because the B._B._C. was so restrictive they wouldn't play rock and roll. I guess or something like that and so these guys just take a boat out on the water broadcast this pirate radio one hundred point three F._M.. So <hes> <hes> this is not the offshore broadcast the Los Angeles this week nineteen eighty nine the program director Scott Shannon we of course we all remember it ended up at beach one for a minute or two and also I wanted to say had his own top forty Coun- <hes> I'm here's here's the we like just to give an example like Madonna is on this very strange and so it was guns and roses Peter Gabriel so cinderella or the DOOBIE brothers <hes> like here's the tops in many Martinez into the night. You know it's on Yup. Okay sure we talk about a lot on the show because it's so frigging creepy. It's creepy. It's about him wanting to take a child and fly into the Air Molester Einstein Theme Song Epstein Goddamn take the lines about Albert Einstein lightbulbs off his ass. You saw that poster number nine the Doobie brothers doctor did look at this year in the hot one hundred and that was also on the hot one hundred. It's a number on rate coming home by Cinderella number seven Peter Gabriel in your eyes number six rockets so alive number five real life semi and angel number four guns N. roses patients number three cannibals number to warrant down girls find your candidate hurtling number one. The express yourself by Madonna. Madonna is number fifteen and then Howard Jones is on here youtube bound Jobe to Bon Jovi's Jovi Song. Isn't that what I need more by number one. You're going to really be confused because to me pirate radio. Is that like songs. You shouldn't be getting anywhere else. Is it Milli Vanilli. It's not it's and I like this guy a lot by the way and he's also the guy I'm talking about is <hes> I like a good handful of the songs he for some reason became a punchline at some point undeservedly and let me guess again then great on twitter then I it's gotTa be Richard. Richard Marx satisfied was number one on pirate role aww but that's not the hit that I remember from eighty nine which was right here waiting right here waiting that is <hes> number twenty three as well as pirate radio radio say all live on Richard Well. He was a big star at that point in time to me. Pirate radio should be like we're playing the chains who are they. That's right yeah they are or or just like from what I understand from pop radio like. There's a playlist that you're supposed to play as a D._J.. And you're not allowed to pick what you want. Pirate radio the ocean playing everything but that list and it could be. There's another track on a popular album that you never get to hear right back Madonna like if they express yourself that's yeah Richard. Marx was satisfied. These these were number one hit yeah all right well. They're they're saying what about this thing W. expertise in Chicago they would play the track four instead of right. They hit and you'd go. That's where the plane Richard Marx well then I play in the hit but they're still acknowledging Richard Jamarcus first album <hes> that I think expertise upon them too but <hes> at first album was on everything he was he was rock radio pop radio. Here's everywhere removes and now he's taken honor. God Damn President from the inside did he swallow him Quebec. Hey I'm not gonNA waste time on this. You guys know our thoughts on Harry's <hes> Matt you know my thoughts on Harry's. Yes you use them. You think about it this way. If I don't WanNa be Harry I gotta go to Harry's Yep. 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My name is she'll be part of enjoying a delicious t to realize the R. J. Green Tea half-and-half Arnold Palmer with green tea limited in Green Tea Kyle and I'm hearing yeah well fuck off Chris Mclean all right good percents yeah call in if you think that was a good idea green team but I bought how many read by twelve of those one hundred twelve pack what we ran out of ts here and I did buy something in a hurry in the ones that I buy they don't sell them on Amazon. You gotTa go through some other distributor and it usually takes three weeks for them to arrive and I don't have that kind of time. I was out of Thira Busy Hollywood man moving and I'm shaking YEP right. I'm busy. I'm going to concerts. I'm also not going to concerts a lot going on your both going and not going going kyle both covered you can't constantly be going at a concerts Aaron. What kind of superjet with that involve to always be on your way to Collins on the concord right? You're not going to Philadelphia that second-stage. Here's what I'm going to say about that and as I tweeted over the weekend on that very day I was laid up with the chickenpox and so I live in the live eight so I I would have stayed home the whole day in watched it anyway. I didn't have a choice and I was bummed out that Phil Collins did the same two songs in Philly that he did at Wembley Blade. That was not well thought out. I thinking was well. I'm going to do the two songs. I'll do it for them for them but forgetting that they were playing to millions at home to also in the while they would stop the stage they would show Wembley. Oh at the other. It's an even worse than this so that's bunkers bunkers on collins like you only have to a zillion hits. It's not like he was his band like somehow. The flight would make his band only remember that I mean it's an interesting question. Did the whole band go or did he play with two different. We played it was just on piano. Oh if I'm not mistaken any played with sting at Wembley and then of course he played with led Zeppelin here how it didn't know that addition to <hes> I didn't know any listen you did watch some of it but I don't remember and route rumor had even though Phil Collins considered a great drummer they had Tony Thompson playing and in addition so we still Collins Antoni Thompson and according to you probably about a little bit about this on that <hes> British parade I don't know if they wanted Phil Collins to play with led Zeppelin but the led Zeppelin tangible maintain. That's why led Zeppelin suck that day <hes> is that Phil Collins like twenty tops and would have been a better drummer for what they were doing and so on and so then above <hes> that's good episode paper read the <hes> The genesis going in order so <hes> I I don't where is that one must be more recent one no. I don't think it is I think you heard it already must have missed it. I'm surprised the whole episodes buffalo cons <hes>. Oh Oh you know what I think. It's the next one it's it's about like guys who leave Bendigo Solo but it really specifically about genesis because they had to yes and three if you Mike Rutherford Mike the Mechanics and then generous the packet they huge minute shit on Mike and Mechanics for no reason that about medium. I don't know that it's fair. Some other great and others are like just really bad little of the road music music was mike in the mechanics that had an album called beggar on a beach of gold. I can't answer that I can only name one song of theirs and it's the living years yeah that's one of one of my favorite album titles of all time. Look that up but beggar on on a beach gold. Why don't you fuck you? Language comes out he's off. SIRIUSXM language dunks the leash baby so you can't you. I didn't like it as I was saying it back on a leash the mechanics mechanics from Guinea six ninety five ninety five it feels like they were trying to make their own idiom and it was years one imagine a beggar on a beach of I don't know what <hes> what would that apply to would you. I don't think I hate it as much as you guys well. That's because you're a beggar on a beach of goals. Here's Mike and the mechanics best already met already got silent running from the film silent running. Which one do you know living? Here's a little living you know you know when you know another one that was even bigger the ad there is one other one but I can't pull it. I need is America. It is really gets thumbs down uh-huh now inoffensive right. I was all in on those guys and now I've just <hes> bore me to tears all right I mean I don't need to put it on now but I liked it at the time. Crank it up. No how do you play Michael mckean. Wow Siri. Can you hear me. Hey Siri. Where'd you go back? Oh even serious serious bill. Oh boy also a lot of listeners who series just went off because I did that. They also bear to build on it. I mentioned this before of a watching shits. Creek is the name is Alexis. The Alexa will activate every single time this every time I don't I know enable that function on on the tap because I don't like it we love it. I don't want the Miami I want them. Listen to me. Oh I I WANNA I in here because I know you're doing since I'm doing because I had downloaded. I guess all of my Google stuff last year just because as you can archive things I have a recording of every time I spoke to Google assistant that Oh article about that about how Google is doing that at very much surprise me that that existed I also have every single <hes> <hes> voicemail from from that time period from Google voice and some phone calls that I didn't realize it was recording Jesus yeah going on buddy. I don't know I don't like it. No Sir time for you to get that bunker Paul Hogan Joe Rogan bunkers together. The irony is that I feel like a lot of people who are like Elliott is sort of predisposed to be suspicious of whatever we're like. <hes> you know I need android. I need Google. It's I need to be able to granular Lee adjust everything and the reality is not that apple. They're not saying but I think on the privacy front apple's doing a little better than a little better well. Here's the thing that annoys me is that you can turn off all these things I've just described but every every time you update android it turns out it doesn't it doesn't say hey by the way we just turned. All those things secretly just does it and so it's interesting because there are stretches where it it does all this stuff and then there are stretches where we didn't and interesting what you find interesting sick I actually I didn't even that not interesting is interest interest. <hes> let me go around the corner cocker who already checked in with a little bit at the state lauper concert on Saturday night terrific okay really enjoyable. You should have been you should have been sitting outside the door at the beginning of his head and listening conversation earlier this back when new whether your wife sit around like you do each week Thursday morning here the program grammy with no pants great appreciate <hes> imagery and I would imagine a lot of our listeners that that way to say it Gluck Garin also went to see Kristin Chenoweth on Sunday night Hollywood bowl double double dip yeah I was a little late which I'm ashamed of that got there like seven forty five and she started right at seven thirty seven thirty opening act. Wow tell she's from the Great White Way. She's prompt circle. It's seven thirty. You're right at one point saying I'm going to have some special guests come out enact to and it was some kids from amdo good to have them. She mentioned Dolly Parton twice through through the show here. We go all right right here comes Dolly Oh God no Dali why would come because she sings on her new album. It was Dolly. What would you say to her? What would I say? I know what I'd say. What is what time is thank you? I don't get you owe smash over there and it'd be worth the seventy bucks to buy a new computer for I would not one. Why would I think it'd be one of those? macbooks discontinued <hes>. How is the show what really quick I just got an email from my professor old professor <hes> professor they're doing screening of the Documentary Echo in the Canyon and Andrew and Jacob will participate a discussion phone the film WanNa go talk to him and ask why he shoehorn himself every image and that fell I will I will add to that <hes> David Crosby who could be an employer Atlantis our push? Somebody said Hey just saw echoing. The Canyon is is <hes> Dylan's. Kid Has CBS' and Hawker must be brought back was nope boy. That's interesting report though it seemed like that'd be no P- love it yeah well answer the question. How was that shows spectacular enjoy a she's? It's almost the same thing Cindy lauper she's charming. She's funny. She's body. It's great what does she do. She does some stuff from wicked. She did some oh she does that. She does the same thing that that Edina does where she brings something up and they seem together for popular. I mean no she did that but no <hes> it was for for be good for good yeah and she went and got this is like a civilian out of the crown. Yeah just randomly girl jumped up into that. Here's what happened this. That's a that's a real do add like there's parts risky this girl you could tell someone who sings along to wicked everyone at that show under pressure. She couldn't couldn't deliver it because of the words which he knew the words she was belting and it was real good when she could girl who sings things. Jesus Raves Garin cocktail the whole situation was very endearing very charming at that they would a stranger paid money to see the star. I don't WanNa see some non Komo. Let me tell you the only part and bring out another actual well disappointing if she was what would you say what you my wife tries it any rendition or version of that song so if she saw a young girl a kid singing that with Chris and gentlemen would have been it would have been chicken. Was it a kid. She was fourteen fourteen years old. That's yeah I assume the way you told her that she was under you could tell she was like singing singing to kristen China with Lake and that's it was very fourteen change change with the age no still even more because I don't like it when teens do stuff. Why are you shaking a cane in the Air Anderson Yeah Man too many clouds tonight I only because I had I had a teen kicking back my wife's chair at the movies yesterday? I'm sour on teens to a movie. Did you see we saw the film steuer starring in Kumail Nanjiani and big Dave Batista. Hey what's the guaranteed using that as well is to see that are you've seen it your review yeah your review. It's fun. That's not what you said the other day. You said you loved it. I found I enjoyed a lot all right curbing it because someone else in the past feels different is not laugh at it felt long to me and it's only like ninety five minutes. You didn't see it. No no I just see a movie the over the weekend and say <hes> Kyle. I'm guessing Garin shot I did not you do not cloth crawl loved it. Did you see in loved loved. It loved it. Brilliant absolutely Brian I saw review on Garrett. Cockerels twitter feed from a fan of this very show that said don't bother it sucks. If you saw the trailer he saw it and that person out of your life right now that I was going to an honor of Camille I was going to go see stupor instead of crawl and which is essentially gator on the second floor of the movie I loved it unloved every single dumb minute of it and there's some dumb Oh. There's some like that for some dumb dumb than I did. It sounds it's a sort of ludicrous idea but it's it's isn't is supposed to be a little bit kind of over the top and insane premise yeah yeah like the number of times over the course of that movie I just went Oh Shit out loud and theater right perfect right and I wish tends the whole time and I like I don't WanNa give it away for because I- I insist that people go see crawl I have rarely left a theater happier with the music that plays over the credit. Yes a hundred percent degrees absolute into the INS- I was so happy walk the dinosaur by wasn't was no. You're not super far not super far off it. In filming with great joy. I saw yesterday the 11:05 showing therapy late in culver city where at at one point I was the only ticket purchase all my ticket at eleven. Oh four short only took it and I went up to the people with my my delicious popping Gordon Beverage and said I'm here for my private screening for all almond laughed and the guy looked at me like he's never heard the language or five and I forget what he said but like I remember I remember I can't remember remember just being angry that he didn't enjoy my joke and that she got it and really got it <hes> and then <hes> as the trailers were ending another gentleman came and sat down a bummer it bummy hourly look he sat there quietly like I did and had the same stared reactions I did. He was into it but it still i. It looks like I'm going to be only guide. I WANNA go all in that empty. You want the story. Where did he said he ended up sitting like in the second road? I was in the second last row because I don't understand handed person that does that either directly in front of you right next to make no sense empty theater. It's like I gotTa sit where the other lit up chair is. There's no I don't get it yeah maybe because if they're going to be scared to grab onto someone the guy do that come with Nachos in Nachos. He owned brought to giant Burrito. That's very different came in with the food available. Peter interlock be pulled out gummy bears problem at both notch any brought in a Burrito. That's crazy right next to you directly next to me dude. What are you doing? I had one time we were in a theater. Peter did not have assigned seen in New York where they're savages and my wife and I were in a theater by ourselves. We forget we were seeing I think it was like you know early. In the morning movie that had been out for few weeks I want to say it was actually malevolent and and we're the only two people in the theater and then the as the trailers are wrapping up one woman walks in and she sit and we're sitting second or third row like in the middle and she sits down directly next to my life talks does she does and Nicole terms we. She's like what the fuck is this problem and she's also pregnant which made it weird or somehow and the woman not my wife and so let's just like so we got up. Up and moved a couple of seats down and shit up and moved a couple of what are you talking and so we were like all right now. We're sitting next to a psychopath like I don't know what you can't enjoy the movie because you're in your head because now I'm completely like worrying about who this person is what she's capable of could ask potentially nothing happened. I would love free and asking offensive question and I don't know Karen can Google or whatever but I feel like I've heard that in eastern cultures like China Japan that it's good that is culturally what you do is that you sit right next to people in an empty theater really yeah like that's just it's it's it would be as weird for them to to not do that. As it is Pakistan I get I just can't run yeah thirteen and a half years we thank you for your time and we no longer justify the title of show. That's for sure so it's probably dot kyle. I'm glad I'm both sat here. Yeah I support you've given us over the years and the friendship that we've formed but so good at your here now you and I are both canceled. I can go on that platform that you're stuck out now. I want to talk about the handmaid's tale. You're welcome to it I want to talk about. Have you been watching a lower sod up. He's not cut off. I'm like I'm surprised I if we're not doing this recap show. I may have abandoned no way. I'm loving it more than ever really yes interesting yeah. I like this more than two hundred percent. I agree with that season to struggle to justify its existence in the wake of season one like most shows like this when it ended it was like that could be the that could be a perfect show like perfect ending perfect season of television and so it's like still much big little lies which is struggling even more to be like. Why are we going back like what what else is there to say or do in this world now and I felt like that was an issue? It's easy to in my head. At least I was like why this doesn't make sense and now I feel like they've finally gotten past us. I'm interested in in what's happening so I will <hes> this is not any giveaway at all. You're not caught up and it's not a giveaway at all but you know her behavior. <hes> Elizabeth Elizabeth Masters Character June off Joseph her character as Danielle says that the university and we're loving it yeah she would be dead by yeah. Yeah killed her in the net for four things in this episode. It's an incredibly frustrating things like I sometimes understand the rules of Gilead. Sometimes I absolutely do not understand that apply to her right like somebody else looks the wrong way at a grocery store they're hanging. She runs out of there with a gun like she's I on the call. She and what can you do right there. There are times when they tried to couch that in like well this guy's protecting our something's happening. That's extenuating and I think they stopped. Just stop bothering to do that. People get it the show Elizabeth Masha like do you watch a little is though Oh yeah I'm also recapping that on entertainment now on Sirius X._M.. On demand have you seen the episode that starts with a flashback to the ultimate moment of the first season where they <hes> I'm joking. Every fucking episode starts at the same flashback. What are they doing? There's a lot of behind the scene <hes> problems with a lot of drama drama. There was a story that broke on was thinking was T._v.. Line last week where Andrew Arnold who was brought into direct this season she replaced John Mark Valet and injured director. I love she made she made the movie <hes> American honey and she made a great movie called fish tank and she did a great withering heights imitation anyway good director and found out was is events that she essentially had her taken away from her like she shot the whole show but then John Mark Valet and his wife have been cutting. I saw his name in the editor. Credit sounds like that's my wife pointed out and she thought that it was because there's so much footage from the first season they might have to credit him because they've they've incorporated so much of his stuff but it turns out he had he's been editing the entire time and that's why it feels visually only very much more same season. One entirely director Zoe Kravitz is curator. She did something seven hard time haunting. She's wanted by yeah. Oh here's another shadow walking last night. Did you interest-rate yeah. I pick the hell out of that show but when it was nine o'clock last night and Oliver was finally asleep like at nine forty. It's like every also watch lineup like I very that in handmaid's I'm very excited watching the house. I felt felt like the way that I know the ones the last episode but the way the this week's episode ended. I said out loud here. We go data. I'm ready to watch like I'm excited again. Like a whole bunch of time of Nicole Kidman <hes> interrogating Yeah Meryl Streep and that's the up in David Kelly courtroom situations during yell out in the middle of that can't wait. Laura Dern is essentially comic relief on the show. I know that's not how that's not how they intended but it's it. You can't not see it as funny because first of all we need to correct ourselves because jeter yourselves a couple of things Jeffrey Nordland is the actor that we were talking about two weeks ago. Not that's not James Tupper who plays Zoe Kravitz husband but Jeffrey Free Nordlinger Gordon do the do the thing with the with the Balabagn's this guy every show this guy's on Nashville on Nashville and he's big little lies. A lot of a picture of that guy knew all agreed he was the I no. You'd have insurance that although your tax was great I'm sorry I didn't know the bearded guy that from the show. I don't defending yourself very nicely. You made the fool because we keep up on what we do. Garin it put down the horror films and watch what we watched that you can do your job how would that. Let's see crawl your fucking bags yeah. That's just didn't you gotta see Garin. It's crime male movie instead to concerts supporting a friend of the show strong wrong phrase see he's. He's an Uber driver and his name is STU. Wait what what is it really oh boy. I thought it was a buddy cop film or are you. Did you legit not no that was like the premise last name was stupor. I thought okay it's a fun. It's it's it's definitely a great movie but it's fun movie. I'm sure I'll shoot at some point. Although I'm not a huge fan of day Batista I know you love Them. I do you love him. I know you do and do them. I see I can't figure out if he's funny or not right relish. We'll tell you what's funny his everything he does. In Guardians is yes great percents so funny just doing that character in this movie would probably be amazing. Yeah I think he's he's a little charming. I guess I like the villain a lot Kinda mad. He didn't get a lot of screen time actor. That was my one complaint Garin. Tell me if you had the same experience I the the thing that was really hung up on in Stupor that I thought all the action beats were pretty bad like I thought I've like on the comedy stuff work for me. I thought the game was wasn't staged very well. Because if the guy that plays the villain is a big Mike Hong Kong Action Star right yeah. He's I don't know if he's Hong Kong but yeah yeah he was in the raid yeah which one of the greatest actions of all time creighton great as to raise a great Aiko Eko something something or other hey. What's this movie coming up the hunt? That looks good. What are we talking about the hunt? It's from the guys that did the purge something else. Somebody told me about that watching the most dangerous game yes it's similar I it sounds like it might be similar that or the <hes> the other one that we like the surviving the game is that what is call where they st with ice tea you know yeah. It seems like it might be one of why did you put me on that one. I thought you said You like that movie team. I Love I see never seen that. Movie is the hunt the one with the with the wedding with the the bride ready or not which is not wait for and that's another one where it's like you're finding people or whatever their new board game family and they she gets married into it and they play like a heightened seek and she has to survive only smarter Robbie. Yeah no no is it. It's a blind asking asking you know there's a sentence I asked Margot Robbie. No we don't need you made a statement yeah some Samarra Weaving. I think it's a total weaving sort of waiting move such a weeping move <hes> I'll check in with Elliot Hooper Nord links. I also need to <hes> I completely misspoke on the last episode where I said she <hes> she calls herself camera and it's obvious that I I don't know why said that literally heard it wrong in my head Comma Yeah and calm I I said Cam and then even said No. I've heard her say it and I still hurt her say and then I repeat it incorrectly so save your tweets aspects Harris Campaign reach out. I just felt like a fool that I made a big really after that's the one thing that got all the other failures you want to go back to Ruta Stan Kasten Pakistan Rueda stance better damage. I'm I'm coming around Pakistan. Yeah you know what actually the way match. You said. It sounded funny the way I mangled in the problem I knew it was one of those not comfortable with this not comfortable not GonNa commit to it and then shifts the bed nor likely is GonNa Shine down thank you. I'm saying that what if we found out there real country the nicest people all right northern just became elegant. That's why it doesn't right isn't it but he does that all down. It'll be sitting reading in what I love it great acting choice but he does it for every character directly so he's got. He's like my Ronny Cox. Good Signature Not Ronny Cox Brian Brian Cox. Yeah you gotta try that Uber driver I remember what was this his under the nostril three hundred and nostril. He's very comfortable. The entire drives it hopeful. I I don't know Alex the taste it was uncle. Has I guess or smell. WHO's your weekend? I had a fine weekend I did. I worked on stuff mostly. <hes> I had to deal with garage band a lot this weekend and I've decided I do not like it where you're trying to edit and grow the worst. It is the worst are you can can. I mean it tries to try to fight you. If you move things around. This is tech bullshit but if you try to move things around it'll subtly shift stuff yeah like a couple a couple of moments which it would drive. You nuts Jimmy because I know you can you can you can see when <hes> you're seeing when audio is out of sync with the frames of video like to hear the little tiny for I know everyone says it's your signature things people. The industry is talking about it on your tombstone all all right so let me ask you appreciate you bring to the coversation but I don't know that I'm letting the establish. Don't care what he's actually saying is you. You're the one who complains when videos at a sink. We realized Jimmy Stickler for. Here's the thing I'm GonNa drive in me and say you take shape. Thanks I'm going to I'm going to delete the word complains Jimmy notices and says hey is that a little bit about a sink I will agree with that and you are very good at noticing thing almost exactly how much out of very few talents happy to have it and so I'm sitting here editing in in garage band and I am furiously find that two tracks that were perfectly in sync because they were recorded. They didn't zinc suddenly are just a little bit from each other and I hear it and then I look how did that happen. I just all move it and I thought I was making a mistake and then I definitely saw that I wasn't so but I finished a thing which I will talk to you about Matt later but preview but you're going to be held hostage early. Just talk to Jimmy about instead go. He say specifically said Matt Now the three say you gotta run that I'll do it for my car to leave hills. You stay which one is heads decided. Oh and okay okay the other thing which by the way because you weren't curious to face now is that is that your new bit Park Nineteen Challenge with me at all times and then that's why I called my decision by these shoes. I'm almost refused to watch it. That's the problem wanted you want the thrill of catching it blind auditioning for a blend role use your ear buds out so you can hear it live in the in the year. Oh man it's bouncing that was almost that was a very nearly the sexiest thing I've ever seen what Oh man that second. Let's go around the room and see if anyone can actually without looking on that much anyway and it's going to contact go go that way with it. All I wanted to be on camera to. I've got you retro fall. I needed to be in my peripheral contractor. That's that's right in front of you know. It was the Second Disaster Mr Oh so you want yeah. There's no way to not doing that. Switch your jacket listener in case we're trying to flip coin and catch it without looking looking away. Okay hold on all right here's can we do. We have all this. I'm on you. Can you are you're right. Handed is kind of the let's move the Mike's Mike's when we go cool the thought over every time you're up all right. How about the Jan Brady does have some really cool coin by the by great corner hopefully or if you're if you have been for this dog over your shoulder now until wind failed the flip? That's another nice nice button shirt. This new trend is great. Elliott rate. It really is a whole different person man against so close to being. I know you thought you had it hard to all right all right. I'M GONNA call always so satisfying. This could be a new Internet meme like this this this herself. Okay dear. God The flip game. You also almost killed yourself please. This could be the new bottle cap challenge. Take coins going to bring a finger. That's part of the problem I think by the way I don't understand the ball cap towns. I've seen a few version is the premise that you can somehow someone could possibly kick the lid the the cap off of a bottle. I think so how how the only one that I've actually been shown my wife is the one that Mariah Carey did where she sings the cap off a bottle but I think that's a riff on the bottle cap challenge so everything I've seen as a riff on Eh Jason Statham since that's the first one right yeah he just did a little spink thing right and then everybody else tried to do but it wasn't on all the way no it's gotta be. It's got to be loose. It's got a man sitting on top break. The bottle didn't move move. I guess what was the was it a bottle of water bottle of water or eat more of them on the data. Take one down pat around ninety seven bottled beer nannyism bottles of beer and that is about as up here dated around him you making those pitched. Maybe that we would actually be good to our guest. I would have done it ninety eight. I have never hated two you guys ninety six and what is wrong those guys. I mean our three. What am I gonNA do? Oh Oh seventeen battling goddamn it again if it was if that would have happened in a player's 11:05 or just an employer I don't care when it wasn't a player I would've done committed three faded out and then faded back at one I and they they missed all of it and I wouldn't I don't I don't even know what your garage band. Yeah exactly. I can't do it. You don't think braces not not braces racist yeah did you did you talk about that. On the regular show ever did I talked to explain to the people I visit invisible line and still trying to wrap my my mouth around speaking with them. In nine sometimes attendance <hes> it's fine but then it's called the words from time to Time Yup and <hes> the pain is subsiding. Oh that's good and <hes> that I put a new parent tomorrow and then that'll be three days of me one hundred yeah I don't even notice them and then I'll punch wall. That'll happen every week or <hes>. What's nine months nine times four thirty six weeks cool thirty six and you're doing this why my bottom teeth are bunching up yeah yeah punching up okay clustering? Maybe the dental term or what I wanted to say could just be a fun described dentistry as you could just line. I mean that's fair. How often you supposed to go twice a year twice a year yeah you do? It got assurance over the Sirius X._M.. They cover you. I'm covering all right. I'm worried about good. <hes> yeah go twice cleaned Polish. I can't wait to play this game. Are we gonNA play this game. You WanNa do it. How are you ready to take a break? <hes> you wanted to get break right now. Back with some church flashback Kyle Anderson Kyle courses available on entertainment now yes the explain what it is so that was on entertainment weekly radio which is no longer channel on Sirius X._M.. Which I have said said on this show and on your show I'm bummed about because you're not alone? Jimmy Pardon I like talk radio and sometimes the host on volume or not for me and sometimes I am tired of hearing about politics and I used to love being able to come over to entertainment weekly radio and quite frankly. That's why we get pop culture news now because I I'm not a fourteen year old girl getting sixteen magazine so I don't know what's happening on the fourteen year old girl in Nineteen eighty-four that's right so I don't wait two years to buy the magazine in early. Sneak it like I do. I never did that <HES> SO I. I'm bummed nunnelee that I do. I miss going on the air with you but I missed the network in general so go right ahead yeah so mamad about me. Explain no longer channel which if you've forgotten makes Jimmy Sad. That's the headline here but we still we still doing pop. Culture laid stuff. Sirius X._M.. Is Trying to get people to listen outside if their cars and so we're launched this whole new thing entertainment now then is all on demands and you can also they just announced last week. It used to be an extra charge to get on demand to get used to the APP normal now if you subscribe. You've got the few subscribe anywhere anyway Oh he's got your car. I thought I heard a D._J.. Say That and I was like I think I must have misunderstood that because I remember when I got Sirius X._M.. Owes bummed that I couldn't use the APP yeah because I wanted that ability ready okay so now by the way you would know that because it's every goddamn comer well and we because I'm still getting tweets and people were like well. I I subscribe serious but I don't. I don't have on demand. I'm like now you do and so and so yeah so you can fire up your APP. You can search for my name. You get entertainment now. You can search for any of them still doing superhero insider which was a show that we used to do on the channel we're to be recaps of handmaid's tale and big little lies which that'd be legalized wrapped up next week and we're doing a show called in theaters now. We're lean latte the film critic entertainment weekly I I love talking here about movies glad that we're still doing that and that's that's every Friday for new movies and you know we got a bunch of stuff coming up. We've got a couple of <hes>. I'm I'm GonNa Record the emmys nomination special tomorrow and that'll be out by the time people here this and it's just it's on your app you can it all operates like podcast. You can download them locally. 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Hey everybody welcome back to the Program Episode Twenty Four Twenty Three Kyle Anderson is areas taking time away from streaming over there on the downloaded downloadable off from entertainment now Siriusxm <hes> front of the show Kyle Anderson Entertainment weekly magazine Yes and Radio and then now on demand on demand right so you listen whatever everyone interesting to three of the morning you can't sleep. Go download good way to go to sleep. Absolutely there's no doubt my mind that's awesome comments on the Internet that said No. It'll it'll grow away. Oh wait hold on someone's at the door now. This could be filmmaker. <unk> Dini's stopping by today too quickly talk about his new film. We've got Peter Today to talk about his new film documentarian yeah unfortunately unfortunately he will not be able to hear these song. How how is the Hello Peter? Peter Aries picked a hat supports nothing the U._S._C. Trojans but not licensed is that what it is is is or is it a fresno related hats got the least descript hat I could find but one question exactly the opposite of what's happening right. Now you Blue Blue Yeah. You're used to have that. The Peter of Heaters got a brand new film up and is now where where do they get. It's called fat <hes>. Where would they be able to watch this Amazon itunes demio but it's on Blu ray on Amazon right now and comes out July thirty first okay and and that's a good there you go yeah I but it's in preorder right now all right again? The name is fat. I watched it last night so cool and very much enjoyed it one question for you. That does not spoil anything. Did that guy ever go out with share. Did he ever go on a date with no. He didn't all right now I think they talked on the phone or they supposedly his version is really you were here to promote it. <hes> new you're doing yoga or kickstarter Indigo Gogo which I was impressed by the amount of names at the end of that film that there was a gazillion people yeah. It was like three thousand three hundred or some crowds. He has a lot of he has a lot of followers like in terms of just helping people over the years and having a podcast like you know I think if you guys did in any Gogo you would probably have the same thing so keep in mind what would you do. They pay each week eight. People subscribe so we we kind of do go after for for more for more quickly explain explain it when you were making it explain the film and the people know what they're getting into very much enjoyed. It is found it very interesting barry educational yet. I will not change one single thing about my diet. That's because I'm who I am and while it tells you every reason why you should <hes> and one could go like even says nobody don't if it's Saturday. Don't wait 'til Monday to do it do it. Now Change Your Life. Now I one hundred percent agree with all that yet I will not I see it well. I see it as being about that. Just taking control of your life whatever that means just because the reason I became interested in it was it was basically all these things that I had thought were true about eating in a high-fat diet being bad for you and causing all these problems just isn't really based in <hes> straightforward science and what I thought was the most interesting was that all these things that we knew over the years were developed kind of just on a whim as you saw in the movie like they had ten years of research trying to find out what the best American Diet would be and they couldn't find anything so they kind of just came out with something because it was a government program and they realized after about ten years that they needed to say something and so pretty much our entire dietary guidelines come <hes> from faulty research because a government program decided that they needed to say something and that's what drew me to the project and it basically tracks the history of health myths in the United States and doesn't really I wouldn't say fully like says or spouses for a Ketogenic Diet but it does show that it's one of the diets that's been kind of Vilnai's D- or if that's Orrville Nice yeah if it's vilify vilified and not for reasons that are based on effectiveness because one of the biggest applications for it as people have epilepsy and seizures they find that it's like a sixty six percent improve improvement rail for children with seizures if they go on a diet one third or completely cured two-thirds are almost completely cured in for just doesn't work but but but why not try that <hes> they aren't they aren't trying it and it's like something like one in ten thousand families families with children that have childhood epilepsy even know that it's a treatment because doctors just aren't saying they're going for the medical treatments which they're supposed to do but when that doesn't work maybe put him on some bacon and eggs and see if that works for because two days later this one Guy Jim Abrams creator of airplane Naked Gun. He's a richest one of the richest guys in Hollywood then and he was taking his kid everywhere trying to figure out a cure for you know his child's epilepsy and the doctors never never recommended a Ketogenic Diet. He just found it in a book in the U._C._l._A.. Library decided to just do it because they were going to do a lobotomy on his kid. She's and two days later. The seizures were gone so the question becomes. Why aren't these treatments treatments being recommended and what needs to happen for that? You know for people to know about it so what I found interesting. Is You know with all that stuff. Oliver was going through earlier in the year that doctors were. Maybe a little more open to have. You tried this diet if you tried right this but that one doctor in your movie which fascinating was like when when you were somebody else said. Why didn't you suggest a diet and he said what we hadn't ruled out all the medical things yet it's like why can't you try both got medication and other things and you know what else might help? This diet should come before medical honestly because what your diet is sort of such a key component of what's happening inside your body. It's those things happened concurrently what bedroom and he was kind of if I maybe a nice man but he seemed to even a little arrogant and defensive about it yeah we used offensive. Don't blame me. I'm Dr as what it came off like and I get it like this. This movie doesn't say doctors are bad people. It's basically saying that there is a point in the movie where we ask doctors every doctor who's in the film we ask them how much medical or how much nutritional training did you get in college and the consensus is next zero. It's like a day a couple hours or none and it's it's because they rely on other people to help them with that because they have so many other things that they have to focus on being a doctor <hes> and you know my opinion is that I've lost fifty pounds doing this. I've told told other people just try it. Just try and the people who've all tried it have lost a lot of weight but the applications for go beyond just weight loss. It's it's actually saving people's lives. There's a story in the movie about someone with type one diabetes which which is incurable you can't get rid of type one and they're controlling their show. Their Children's type one diabetes with Akita Genyk Diet and I don't believe in conspiracy theories or anything but I do think that there is a sort of self sustaining anything to medicine where if you cut the child's medication down by sixty percent. They don't really want people to know that they don't have to use the insulin at that rate when you're cutting it from from whatever doses seventy a day or whatever the doses are to sixteen. It's going to have a market effect on the profitability of that industry so I do think there's a self sustaining nature to it where why would they want people to know they can just go by some meat yeah right and and get better so I don't know relatives interesting <hes> the I enjoyed it very much last night and again phone if very education and it's well worth watching go yeah can't wait to see it all right not changing thing about your life though no fifty pounds. I'll be nothing I can't do very true. I can't go on that I don't. I don't think everyone loses automatic immediately but that's what I learned. is you eat eat megan eggs and you lose fifty pounds way I was on your show was was not for the Chicago documentary that I recognize trying to figure out welcome back to my life sweet moment nice speaking of his show Peter What we're about the news play a game chagall chart flashback. We're we're GONNA listen to a top ten from certain year in the eighties. I wonder Oh sorry go ahead from the eighties. <hes> we have the guest the song and then when they all are played against the year of the of the top ten songs from this week of a certain year in the eighties so we're about the play that <hes> but you're going to have to say maybe peer can sit next to Garin and Garin conflict one of his his right ear <hes> can out so the so that Peter can hear well. He's he's not going to hear the song cues if he doesn't just like that. Is that that you think you might even have to get very aggressive as. Possible <hes>. Did you want to bury. You'll hear it. There's a barrier join us. You WanNa do a sample of different songs or so that we know Peterson. Are we not putting it on the ground. Does it have to be that can't be auto and logical aggressive logical. You're some sort of high pass something okay. Maybe I should be from the album. Hello Nasty Great. Can you hear that I can. I can hear something I can hear some sort of set. You should guarantee headphones that maybe sit in this one out the entire time you but I want you to participate return his headphones up something book. Can we do hello. Can we take a break. I don't know I mean we can hook up other headphones for him but I just I thought that would be good enough to just no I I can turn them up is is better touchette cha-cha sadder splitter because it's painful to you now that it's louder biologist end this implied the side this game uh-huh going great so far you can hear that I can hear it all right good all right. We're it all right. So what do you think your your your your name. That's how we're doing. This is just between the two big thing so he knew we were talking talking about a if he's <hes> he's in this now snuggling up like everybody everybody's in now every Mike is not even everybody's Michael Yeah so no matter the one who knows I met knows it so we're going ten to one obvious kyle will explain it so matters yet you have pulled from the billboard hot one hundred yes how one hundred this week unknown year in the decade of the Nineteen Oh. I don't even tell you the year no no no yeah so we're GONNA tend to one we're GonNa see we name the artist and the song and then we're seeing that information to gauge exactly what you're in this is from that it's flash the production I I I go with me. I'm a little things on you know. I'll use that now can I can. I inject like a little bit of commentary okay because this one this first one number ten but no no clues. It's not a clue. I'm just saying this one should be guest within a second all right all right go mistakes. That might be aggressive but I think at least one person okay here. We go flashback Jimmy. This is the one person to hear yeah. Jimmy ain't nothing but a good time by poison. Yep Wow nice okay nothing but a good already sorry. I don't know why it's stuttering when I started. I've had time by poison poison. How is how is history looking at poison I don't know what do you think it's done isn't that strong right young Oliver Griffin part on your very show spoke about his <hes> dislike of that song he doesn't care for it? It's it's every Eighties Rock Cliche Dad. It is interesting because it was so unoriginal to it was basically Motley crue. I mean even by the time poison arrives. It's cliche like listen to this vocal when I was listening to beg- This I do too this from open up and say that is so Vince Neal was doing exist you in Winston on the first album and it's funny God look at the catch right then you got me. I'm trying to figure out interesting because there are wanna be bands from the nineties who I feel like people look much kinder on like stunt. Pilots have a much better reputation now than they did in at the time ninety three but I feel like poison is like now they're definitely not considered because people we'll talk about now. When talking about Motley crue with the type of reverence they don't deserve? We talked about the dirt right when it came to Netflix on my show. I don't know if we think we tech tobacco board that we needed to never actually. Did we ever talk about on this. Show the question. I don't know that we ever did tweet fucking drag. That thing was peter just do that. The dirt the Motley crue movie no but I did see the trailer for it was a good complete. fucking drag raves me. I mean I didn't careful. It's hard to do those. I mean it's a series right. It's knows it oh it's a movie film. How much money goes into those because it always looks like they skimp on the actors in the this one sets and very sick? This one budget was low. Yeah probably demands a bigger budget. Considering all of the aim was really really noticeable in all the concerts. Oh my God it was like we're going to see Motley crue at their peak already with music `bio-pics where it's like if you have eighty million dollars. It's like you're treading on thin ice trying to recreate stuff that people love it was on the heels Bohemian rhapsody to which everybody much not stuttering networking now on the heels where human rhapsody so which was revered by many people and looked great and the acting was great and then here comes this thing which was very much a v._h.. One made for T._v.. Then Netflix budget so you've thought it'd be a little bit better and also trying to be was directed by one of the Jackass I think right and so it had that element of guns. Oh who can you believe this crazy. He's he's eaten as women's Pussy in the middle of party like that's the opening scene. A Nikki says that scenes in their man that was every newsgroup was saying that like better told the truth Nikki says okay great. I I enjoyed it actually even though it's trash like it was it was enjoyable track. I wanted to be trashier like like like I you know I know it's part of his narrative. I'm GonNa fuck about Tommy Lee and his mom going on there. I just want and then like the when they did do the big famous scenes like the the osbournes stuff regret. It felt really really hokey. Oh it did that. Scene really felt hokey then we're there by the pool and shoehorned in is like this isn't yeah. It's also great like it's a story. It is but the way it's plays in the film it's like did we didn't need to see this and it's not it's like oddly not shocking enough to be L. examining or anything shocking because we've been hearing that story for thirty year right so did you see it. You know a <hes> reenactment was like okay. There's a guy in an ozzy wig. Sniffing began okay done cool he needed return to the heart of though in terms of that because there are rated and they kind of pretend to be edgy but then when when it really comes down to it they kind of chicken out. Don't movie doesn't chicken out. They got a guy eight enough pussy. I seen cost you see that close up and she squirts and it's been bananas involved. I've changed my mind first thing when I got you might want to go to the P._G.. What am I am? I deeply uncomfortable with you using the fray she skorts. That's a whole scene was so crazy crazy couple of with very clear. I did it to push pushback on the heart our argument. This couldn't have been harder yeah by that. I mean relaxing wasn't really good music bio-pic. What's like Buddy Hollywood with Gary Bucy's terrific? Oh I do like that one that wants terrific great balls afire. No that's Jerry Lewis. It'd be a different thinking. That's that's quite writer is moving. That's right yeah kind of count almost famous since its semi-autobiographical fickle about Cameron Crowe because that's still I think that's my favorite bell. The music's fictionalized which is kind of why it works in a weird way because it doesn't it doesn't do the problem with `bio-pics about music is that you're at least me my brain going. Is this accurate like does this sound right. I love look right enough and so you get in your head about it whereas that one didn't have to deal with that which is nice but I was going to. I had another one oh Selena. I'm sorry for interrupting. You know I haven't seen Selena's I was GONNA say <hes>. What's the daughter? No although maybe that would help walk hard what's good. It's good those comedy. What's walk the line walk the line? I remember liking it. Maybe it's a little but <hes> by the number of started company really well. It's entertaining but as a rap van it felt incomplete to me. It was like they're big parts of the story that weren't in there has a lot of those really hokey scenes were like the scene were ice. Cube is writing Fridays fucking ridiculous and the scene where snoop shows up and he hears fucking g thinks he's like Oh. That's hot on the Fox on it was it was two full of that stuff but then that's what I mean like it's an awkward ending. They just arbitrarily ended at a point where it's like but then so much else happened after that like the entire partout abadie I know equal strain in the they love and mercy yeah that one was really great because it did it in a completely unorthodox and that's the best that Cusak has been in decades. Guess where he's he's making pet or what what's what's the pet sounds and they're all on tour and he's in the studio working on it and you see him trying to explain what he's hearing in his head to people who don't get it great musicians but they don't get it until they play some Paul Dano young yeah I and he's great great great movie and Elliott brings up a Yankee doodle. Dandy actually is a really good movie. I don't know if it give it qualifies for what we're asking about. We can tell you it doesn't George Cohen it. One hundred percent guys <hes>. We've got one song so we got <hes> number ten. I got instantly as you predict number nine will not be an instant also still picking Jimmy her mom so hold on now. We're having a different audio problem. God damnit this fucking phone. I should've just played off with somebody else but all right artist I think who do you think the artists it's billy. Joel isn't it notice not is it. Eric Carmen meant yeah. It's Eric Carmen <hes> it's hungry is no no no. It's not it's Eric Carmen. I got that through that muddied well. It was weird as it sounded fine until the vocal came in. What is the name of this tone Zahn? Oh I know this Jefferson. I was in Jennifer's. I dated a lot of generous might David the second one Jennifer two hundred century here for that radio up close. Let me you go let me make me control. Make me lose control over there. We go requirements Comeback Song Armidale out of good songs originally was banned but van was originally with going at five strokes harming the Harlem Knicks to cover brothers won the raspberries Berry Berry. Just one might be the most obscure number seven and eight. I will say that I did not know the name of this song or the name of this group but you recognize recognized right but but you know what to group you're telling us to group. I'm giving you that hint amazing. How often that happens? I've never known WHO's this on. This is breathe breathe Yep. The band is named. Breathe breached the band. There's gotTa look at us face but someone just racks weird dog should because what is pretty yeah. I've heard this on. Let's give me something we're getting the band gatos grains. Everybody got credit away from you and we'll be back something you too nice sweet caress parable. You really sad that's the chorus not doesn't say the title. I don't know if the title is in the song it's called hands to heaven is in there somewhere we just kind of sang it to me breeds. I want to say Atlanta Georgia. Okay no to me saying with British I mean that's only that kind of sauce would come from Norway or is it. Just two dudes right is that breed two dudes or my thinking of reduce on the outlet spike spice delahunt album cover speak clear. None of them have a wikipedia page though well they did from fame. None of them was the George Michael. No nobody broke out spikes dead when we lose their drummer lost two thousand dollars Jesus goes wow. I'm only learning about it now. She's sorry somebody bigger must have died. The same day has to be why we did you hear about spying <hes> on a number seven now here we go a night and day. I'll be sure how elliot hope nice impressive pulling out album love to show the year by the way I wanna get into the one that you I think so I think so could be wrong number. Seven it's yeah I have an idea of what you might be a range of years. I'm not good like you at that but still working. I can't answer that a l.. The letter B. L. don't for it or don't forget the exclamation point that's right. I'll be sure whim and Tony Tony Eh. There's some other I think it's a period marcation under the second tone isn't it. There's also a three different spellings right why they're all exclamation point so it's three exclamations missions Tony Tony all spelled Tony Tony Tony. If I had pizza came on flying then that's great song in fact you're talking not apparently Orange Tony Tony Tony. Don't don't ever you bring it up number five five six sorry. This isn't numbered Dr McGreevy someone fix this interface. Please Apple Music Griego number six roll with it by Stephen. That was about to say that I didn't this is another instant name. Yeah I got that a little stuttered hit the most about traffic what Steve A win win. I wrote his name Stevie. What's that Steve Winwood? Steve Steven Man Yeah he wrote on them in Chicago had a big hit with the man. You ought to do it yeah speeder documentary no for you. Give me the highlight of my career dismissive did that you know the best phone call I've received in my life the <hes> the documentary about your favorite band cool new and three years. I'm GonNa Make Fun of you about that might happen one day. They're coming to tell you what backseat patches yeah but no this on the show downplay all that five years ago by the way the movie shot shot it. You're welcome five years ago already knew to celebrate the anniversary Jimmy shooting that stuff probably gonna go to the Greek and see the band remind the hit that they were you guys know ah spells Jimmy. Go ahead all right. I'm going to try new method to make it not stutter at the beginning which isn't going to play the previous Song Oh and then having into this works here number five <hes> this one bro it went the other way motherfucker. I'll be sure so big that so I I think it's GonNa work now. I have to rearrange these <hes> to to do what I wanted to do. So just talk yourself here we go now. You'll get the name of the movie spat. He'd get that <hes> what other platforms bid I tunes Amazon INVA- meal right and give me the gentleman's name who basically host the Vinnie Rich Vinnie Vinnie torch former model now health gurus got a podcast with the lady whose name podcast called leaning Chino and of Achino couple of Italian stock about food guys you WanNa roll with it. I'm ready to got number five number five start to this one so it's not going to be a quick Philip glass once again. I'll be sure Janet Jackson I want Gary. Oh It's right here waiting it. It's our buddy remarks but not that it's not that Oh hold onto the national none of the night i Richard Marx almost correct at I was shocked by this as well. I oh my entire life thought this was hold onto the night. It's actually called hold onto the nights to the nice more than one night where the full summer all spelled K. Right. It's a medieval song <music> because people love nights nights yeah historically. Everybody loves wanted. I can only mean good things right. Oh yeah it doesn't mean that here a crazy murders you're about to be sacked. Do not good right. I can't agree with you all right. I here's the thing I agree with you but I love that's fair. That's how I feel. I've always loved because of reminds you of a certain time in your life isn't that all music yes and that didn't totally tainted love sucks but Goddamn to brief him out to a great time. I think about the years that I'm most fond of probably have some the worst music but I love all of it is like like ninety nine two thousand Oh yeah but it's all show but I know all the lyrics that's the one era my life where I remember all lyrics every song and I can't remember lyrics. Did you go to the Greek last night. Now banned there that you turn me onto they'll wolf pack they <hes> Four Wall Place I think and they four world the Madison Square Garden and selling it out really no advertisement besides their fans on facebook while Joel disband. What are we talking about Wolfpack? I'm unfamiliar. They're like this early thirties funk band that plays like old school type funk from the nineteen thirties thirty thirty years old and incredible able like they they have two million followers on facebook. They have they release an album every single year and they're just completely self sustainable without any advertise but yeah they played the Greek. I saw that there were at the Greek. I was like I assume A._M._D.. Were there and be like how could they fill the Greek. I knew of them from one conversation right. It's nuts it's crazy. Well good for them for both Peck Peck View Yeah I did not get on board. It's much as Peter was kind enough to suggests them. Heck <hes> Heck Volt Peck all right number four other quick question about Richard Marx Yeah. He's a good singer right yeah why they need so it's river on his vocals Nichols then. I think it was production in the eighties minutes is kind of yeah. We can't blame right. It seems shame though because he he's one of people who need it no he did not he did. An acoustic greatest hits recently that it was great Song Visit Hazard yes great song. That's good yeah again for some reason to give them a punchline at some point but <HES> undeservedly. It's probably hair. The hair was ridiculous. What was it anymore ridiculous than any other hairstyle anti-muslim worst that it was all not only was it a mullet? It was a lot happening. It was big. It also wasn't <hes> the music. Wasn't it belied. It wasn't pollinate yeah if he was he was in Bon Jovi. No one would've said Eh but he's making soft rock. <hes> ballots Tico Torres sure main good number number four four sensation. That's going to be a quick one kyle. You're now into yeah me too yeah all right Elliot the year the Ish Ish Baiter Garin bring the number three another instance guests. I predict all right here. We go to play this again. You didn't hear much of it again. That's embryo three to one up Armageddon me this guy so I'll tell dated anybody about DEF Leppard. There's no better interviews subject than Joe Elliott. Have you ever had the chance to interview. I have yeah he's great. He's terrific now and he's with it and and and is up on current music can talk about I mean he's he gets. It seems to remember a lot of his life. Those guys I listen to any interview with him yet. I don't care about Leopard at all now. Let me is it just because of this record yes because a lot of people that's where yes because this is from uh hysteric no no. I'm sorry yes no I apologize I get those because they all sound the same Romania much as a great wrec okay and I also the oven. They may call slang which everybody hates in two thousand man yeah yeah it was their attempt at fitting it with the grunge right. It's sort of like slightly heavier. It's not bad I'm with you on that. Get more than this <hes> overproduced Motley Bullshit yeah that's the and they really committed into that. That was kind of the problem. Well funny thing about that. Recording as you guys might remember Def Leppard had some sort of legal issue with the <hes> the masters so they re recorded their entire catalogue to home now to put it out on digital just despite the people owned it then always hard this is like a two thousand twelve recording they recorded a sound as close to the original recording as they could possibly get which is which mostly succeeds at but at the end you can kinda here. The strain in the voice quite hit. The realized that just happened to and I can't think who the band is now but it just happened to abandon. I really like that. I realized like Oh the stuff that I'm listening to. An Apple. Music is all of their re recorded and everything's worse bummer. Oh bummer yeah number two number two this is this is other than that breathe song and then going to be hard for people at number two number two. I think this is GonNa be hard. Oh Wow okay here we go first. We have here a little more of this as a twelve year old boy. I wasn't twelve of his whatever age I was going to give away. This is perfect adolescent boy music. Oh Yeah Howard cords stupid sexual lyrics. They should play this song strip clubs. That's genius to open a strip clubs. Okay good. I've got an investor. I guess in my pocket number two number two starts with the car. Is it Bruce Springsteen Tracy Chapman Fast Car Paula no by the way of yours the lack of women this ten yeah you're right. There's zero one. Do you WANNA ride. Oh ladies play Mercedes by pebbles. Yes you have it. I'm got that's a hell of that. You guys both new the artist's name. I knew the records okay <music>. I couldn't get it until she said that first line but are you ready that kind of clues you into that's sort of the where the do you WanNa ride you know. I guess it's a <hes> foreshadowing the course was pebbles and one wonder and the hit this T._l._c. she gives t._l._c. what does it. What does that mean? She's manager producer Sir true. Oh thank you of course six years in front of the way wrong you notice that one thing he didn't Google and then Hamblur Kamla Tupper langlade what's what's his name Jeffrey Nordland norling Nordland all right number one. There's only one left what year now here's something we kinda. You think you know the year yeah. Do you think you have any idea when number one thing all that's right. That's a good question considering these songs. Let's go round even even like the artists. What do you think is eighty-seven? What do you think it is? Um I was GONNA say Ninety one eight eighty seven mediate. Do I play the top hit or do I because now we're GONNA try to figure out have so now eighty. It's probably right. You only said ninety late. I know it's eighty eight. There's no doubt minds A._D._A.. No doubt no doubt any kind of instinct and went monthly in July July of might have been number. One is the weekending to to quit Christmas empty the the weekend in <hes> no I'm just saying it's the weekend July sixteenth. I'm not gonNA tell you what you're at middle of the summer if you can if which started this one of those weird brains that you know what year like what day day of the week it was in what year I have to guesses for what the number one is yeah okay artist. It's either Michael Jackson words Madonna you're wrong. Bon Jovi both counts. You're wrong above counts and Peter's wrong. You're also wrong with a bet money. It was something for bad eighty eight yeah bad. Would it's still been breaking singles amy number one buddy. Is that a secret. You told me you'd be you better. Be embarrassed that ricky that too is at the wrong. That's Ricky Yourself. Could that earlier that's Mickey. I always get ready to maybe three Matt. Is it a <hes> group or solo artist to group to group might give us the genres it is that are in B. is at pop isn't metal. It's rock. It's rock not metal. nope eighty eight use eighty eight eighty eighty seven or eight hundred is still seeing delays but I think it's there's no doubt my mind J._D.. Let's go worked for M._C.. Records what do you do things right. A New Kyle's right is it human Lewis and he's news eight. Yeah Yea your way to get wrong. I think it's eighty seven wrong and Elliott's ninety-one which is wrong and by the way the game was it was a doc. Listen listen. He's eighty nine when screw us up the whole process was to we did say it's. I got a bunch of shit going on. I'm honored to be called. Fuck one and that's I'd give us one more clues we see if we can just the artists or it's a fan and late eighties rock where they is it a one or two hit wonder they multiple heads there. They are on the charts. I would say there are an underachieving band they are they are legend status in some circles. This might be there only number. Why The tiger the right year? I'm going to eighty two. I'm going to look it up on on <hes> on Wikipedia to see if I know right because I would I would start with a J nope. No I would bet money. This is their only number one but they journey visit the jets. No he said rock band Iraq in the in the eighty match down rockaway another that was probably number one also oh so they've had to number ones. Maybe they had hits. Don't get me wrong wrong. Rob Fans that art metal. I mean journeys not Iraq man foreigner. I mean these guys might have been considered hard at some point <hes> but they're just a rock band orders an example speedwagon too late for R._E._M.. Eighty six it should be less than eighty seven. Maybe the last night they hit hit. How do I find I? It's not the unfortunately wikipedia is not helping to go to the billboard website. <hes> you want another hints yeah more giveaway and they there. This band is from your hometown Jimmy from Chicago cheap trick. Yes and it's <hes> wow lame. It is the flame yeah how to their from Rockford by the way I apologize but they're known as Chicago but it's cheap trick in the flame which I believe is had to be there only number one and it's also one. What's that you don't think don't be cruel? No overcoat went to the top ten but did not because none of that stuff was was that big at the time right like the Mike all the good cheap trick songs were I don't consider this tricks and the span that had interested avid base yes that consistently supported them but never really breakthrough to that until this yeah then lookout go to con. We're coming back. I don't just like the saw I'm really surprised at what spies isn't a big summer song. That was number one a huge but I mean like a gallon. What do you want to fashion pool splashing the beach ball which by the beach number one and walking on sunshine should we number one every summer summer just a new version of it of course it? Is this what he gets. It hits that note what we were it was right the first time this is their only number one hit. Don't be cruel went to number four and I want you to want me went to number seven. Where did they tonight's night? Come tonight charted you go to hold on click more chart history. This does not sound sound like cheap trick. It's time where everybody Chicago cheap trick. Everybody was using kind of sounded like this. This is this my dad weren't and by the way number one so. I guess they did the right thing. If you WANNA make money anyway. That was your gold foster. They were all of that asking about tonight. It's you yeah I went to number forty four. That's it <hes> let's listen to this celebrate the song now who would sing this now Kelly Clarkson artists would sing top songs of the of the eighties seventies now like I always like thinking about. I think it would be a country version. I don't know I don't know if the song would exist now. I'm not sure there's a Kelly Clarkson did a version of this <hes> in her way it could be a hit kind of has a recording on WHO's recording on the Diane Warren Songs in Two Thousand Nineteen. She just was nominated for an Oscar again. Lady Gaga I think did YEP Zito produce that was Zito around production and writers who wrote it but Mitchell and the Graham Mitchell news so I guess the cats the year was nineteen eighty-eight get a question. That's <hes> the sound just a certain sound because I didn't know any other songs like right off the Bat. I knew obviously I knew like pour some sugar on me but it's just the kind of sound from movies at that time period to where you just because I was about about the time we're movies really started to US pop songs but why why but but that could abuse nineties it was it was sounded like the nineties and the eighties at the same time <hes> so the difference and I threw myself off because I was you know oh I thought was a songwriter at the time and I'll be sure song and a bunch of songs that were similar to that kind of inspired me to do some stuff that was bad but that's why I thought it was in the nineties because because that's when I wrote icy Mansur on that <hes> I I know that everyone is burning to know the songwriter bio pre evo if you're if you're making your Elliott Times have soundgarden on the wall. She's getting now fill in more cards. This suggest maybe a yellow yarn for this period Pinson yarn in Elliott related and then just a murder but he's that way you cut off. 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BOX234: Ghostly Mountaineer Angel

The Box Of Oddities

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BOX234: Ghostly Mountaineer Angel

"What follows may not be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Stories. Stories of mysteries. Of Curiosities. Joy? In An Giang through Gilligan Tov for strange. The boozers! The unexpected. As. The LID and wash asleep you're inside. The box! oddities. Go, this is fun. I think we received well over two hundred emails and messages from people telling us that fans gold was found. Yeah, stop sending messages, please so we appreciate it, but it was a story that we we talked about pretty early on in in the PODCASTS and I love love love that you people know what we want to hear about for sure and that was amazing to me. Because I was like Oh, Shit! Did you hear that fence golden? You were like Oh. That's really interesting. I was like I. Know Right, and then it was all bing bing being. Like big. Now! Let's just briefly recap this guy. forest fan allegedly hid like a million dollars, plus in gold and gems, and then gave clues in a poll that he released. For Ten years people have been looking for this gold, and now allegedly it's been found, and so I was like. Wouldn't it be funny if he was just running low on dollars, so he just went out to the desert, dug it up and it was like someone found it. Needed the cash right right? My thought is that it never existed. He's eighty nine now he figures. Probably it's time to cash in the laugh which he will get, but according to his his blog, somebody found this treasure. They sent him a picture of it and verified the coordinates of where it was, but he won't say who that person is. That person he just said is from quote back East, and nobody knows who who this person is, or if in fact, the treasure was really found, or if in fact, there was really a treasure. I think it's just him having some fun. I love the idea that it was real and that someone did find it and if someone found it and he was like Oh. Yeah, someone founded it. Was Brian Doyle from West Chester Sinfield, vis the West chesterson field. Ville Doyle's and. I'd be like wow, that guys a dick. Brian Doyle doesn't want everyone knowing he found your treasure. Thank you. So I applaud the not telling who was that found it even though I kind of don't believe that Brian found it right. No I think that it's a bunch of hoo-ha. Either way I enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you so much for sending all the messages. We're just kidding. We love hearing from you guys even if it's over and over and over again. We did post an instagram video from the deck I realized now that I was probably. A little, too. Horn swaddled. I was into the giggle juice, and so maybe I should like had a couple of drams of POPs skull. Turn off the the SOC meads, when Oh be joyful anyway. It was fun. Oh, I. Put some NECTARINES IN MY IS T. and. It's probably the best choice I've ever made. Oh! So good what you got for me well today I wanNA talk about the ghosts on Mount Everest Mount Everest is littered with bodies of dead climbers right? Yes, they've accumulated over the decades now. When you say ghosts, though do you mean goes, and not just bodies. In both Shaker Oh, Shit. Yeah, there are so many bodies on Mount Everest that when you climb to the summit. If you go through the regular route that they take to the summit, you have to physically step over bodies right and some of the bodies are actually used as landmarks the way Salako Green boots halfway up or something like that. In fact, green boots is one of the most famous. Famous bodies his real name. By the way was to swung Powell your and it is now a a landmark on the main northeast. Ridge route to the mountain. in-depth green boots has become sort of a guide for the living. He died in a small indentation in the cliff. That is a a commonplace for for hikers to crawl in and kind of catch their breath rest up a little bit. He died in there, and that indentation is right next to the main path to the summit, and people actually have to step over his legs to proceed passing hikers even occasionally stop for a Selfie with green boots. Doesn't that seem a little disrespect for the navy? Of course we just casually refer to him as green boots and he's a mile marker so good point. Another guy? David Sharp, who was also a fellow mountaineer? Different entirely different party in fact years after green boots died crawled in there to to stay warm, and he died in there, too, but his body was removed according to an article on Rancor Mount Everest is notorious for its corpses. People travel from all over the world, of course, the climb Everest and not all of them survive their avalanches. Of course, a lot of people die from falling in clinic temperatures all. All those things prove fatal. Most people die from avalanches. That's terrifying avalanches to me are very very scary. no-one wants no one's like avalanche but I've seen some videos of avalanche events, and like there was one where it was just taken out houses like it was i. don't even know if it's technically an avalanche or something graded up from an avalanche, but it was just like house. House House just sweep sweep sweep. And it gives me that same feeling that like I don't know like a heights? do or something something like that that you just your blood. My Body reacts to it I read an interview with a guy. He was a skier that got swept up in an avalanche, and he was obviously rescued because he was being interviewed about the event. He said that the most scary thing for him was not knowing. Which direction was up. Yeah, yeah, I. Know. It's because it's a weird combination of things. It's the disorientation. It's the CLAUSTROPHOBIA and it's the cold, and there's I'm sure so much that the. L.! Now that's why we're moving to a warmer climate. In two thousand seventeen four bodies were discovered in a tent on the on a an Everest base camp site. analysts believe the campers passed away due to altitude sickness. The weird thing is none of the local climbing. Agencies reported any climbers missing. They remain unidentified. Oh Man. Yeah, well. There's gotta be a way that you can like. Scoot past you know and make your way on documented I guess so there are. There are several routes to the summit right? Some of them are more challenging than others. Most people just take this main route. Right but I know you there's like a check in right when you go up the mountain so that people know that you're. Yup. They're like three two or three different base camps that people will set up. Their parties will set up. But the most dangerous route. Is this particular route northeast Ridge Route near Everest's summit? There's an area there called. They call it Rainbow Valley now that sounds peaceful but essentially what it is mass pit of Bodies Oh. Yup, the grisly scene got its name because of all the brightly colored jackets and climbing gear. The cadavers still have on strewn all over the section of the mountain. That's letter. Throughout the years, climbers have been known to push cadavers over the mountainside into Rainbow Valley or to cut the ropes of mummified remains, so that it's less hazardous as you try to come back down the trail in this area of vast majority of those who succumb to altitude, sickness, or exhaustion or hypothermia. It happens in this area. After, the summit on the way down Oh really. Oh I didn't know that that's really depressing. It's like Oh, you've achieved the thing and now you're going to die. Yeah, yeah I don't like that also I would think that any sort of dangling rope mummy would be very dangerous and I can totally understand doing the old heave. Ho! Ho, and so these bodies are just collecting down in this gorge. and. It's just like littered with Colorful Ski Jacket Sad as a horror movie in the making according to the laws in Nepal Everest is considered sacred in any remains are to be removed immediately. That's the law you need to remove them immediately. The problem is it's nearly impossible to retrieve remains from this area, which is also called the death zone. cheery, there was this one guy's name was. Peter Kinloch and he had just summited Everest when he was struck by sudden blindness. Now this is another problem that people have at these altitudes. His team reported that Peter was an excellent health climb up, and they also noted how overjoyed he was when he reached the summit, this was a dream that he had but due to the high altitude. oftentimes this happened in Peter's case, climbers are struck with retinal hemorrhages, bleeding from the cells in the back of their eyes, and it can cause blurred vision or just outright blindness she's. So he's on top of fricken Everest in he goes. Blind guides notice that kid locks. Loss of coordination was starting to become more prominent at that point. He admitted he could no longer see so sherpas tried to help him. He's twenty eight years old. They try to help them down the mountain. They shared their oxygen and their medicine with him over ten hours in hopes of keeping him stable enough until they reached base camp, but the team began to suffer from hypothermia and frostbite. They had to make the difficult decision to leave him behind now. Yeah, OH, my Gosh! Those poor people several months later, one of Peter King locks friends. A guy named Rodney. Hogue was making his own attempt on Everest. And he spotted Peter Sitting on a ledge, his remains were perfectly preserved by the ice. He said quote when I saw him I instantly knew it was Peter. You could see his face. It was just like he was lying on his back taking arrest. Jeez the climbed down to Peter was too dangerous to undertake, so hope took a moment. He paid his respects to his fallen comrade before continuing on. On now before Kinloch had died, the SHERP. Is that were with him at clipped him to a fixed line on the side of the mountain, and that's probably where he will remain until somebody cuts down. That's got to be super bizarre to all of a sudden. See your dead friend on the side of a mountain. Yeah, he's been dead for months and he looks like he's taken a nap. Be Concerned that I was like hallucinating. Yeah, nobody knows exactly how many bodies are still on Everest? But the estimate it to be just over two hundred eighty bodies. Most of them are Sherpas, which is not surprising. That makes a lot of sense. They reside in the Tibetan Nepali border area, interestingly the Sherpas when they die the perish. Perish at the lower altitudes while the foreigners perish higher up closer to the top of the mountain I. Don't know why that is exactly, but but that's what statistics tell us interesting. According to the Himalayas database, most climbers expire either ascending or descending from the summit, mostly descending very few diet base camp. Now there have been very strange and unexplained sightings on the mountain particularly in this area that I'm talking about the dead zone. Just as you're coming down from the summit Pemba, Dorji Sherpa from Nepal claims to have seen black shadows during his two thousand four ascent of Mount Everest. When I paused at amount of rocks I saw what looked like spirits in the form of black shadows coming toward me. They had their hands outstretched. They were begging for something to eat. Dorji thinks the shadows are obviously spirits of mountaineers that were killed during past climbs, and that's interesting, because it's a tradition to leave food near a deceased climber's body on the mountain as a form of respect, Mohan Singh a resident of local Himalayan village. He reportedly encountered a very strange man, wearing mountain, climbing gear outside of his home. During the winter months of two thousand four, he said the sky turned to black, and the stranger reached for sings shirt he was. He was trying to grab him to keep himself from falling, but his fingers went right through sings body just like a ghost might do. Strangers Body. He said, continuously changed sizes, growing up to nine feet, tall, and then suddenly shrinking to quote the height of a chicken. Dad's weird. That's terrifying. I mean your brain must be doing crazy things when you your body is being put through that that tremendous stress will that that that is true, and that's what makes this particular story interesting is this is a a resident of a village that is certainly acclimated hikers go you. You know Internet of this this village on their way to and from, so he wasn't. He wasn't hiking. He wasn't doing this this dressy thing actually chopping wood chopping, what can be stress in June of nineteen, thirty three Frank Smyth while he was climbing suddenly. You sense that he was not alone. He descended from one of Mount Everest's notorious death zone areas, and during a break from these this journey he encountered the presence of a man. Described it a mint cake with him. He attempted to break his mint cake in half, and as he was handing it to this man, the man just slowly disappeared right in front of his eyes. Sometime later Smyth discovered to dark bulbous. Hovering over him, he described one of the objects as having a quote. Squat developed wing, while the other had a beak like protrusion kind of like the spout of a tea kettle. K The objects remained pulsating over him until eventually disappearing in a passing now, that could be explained by the brain's lack of oxygen at a higher altitude. That's still pretty pretty frigging weird. Be Creepy. In one thousand, nine, hundred eighty five guy, named Dougal Hanson and a friend of his Doug Scott, claimed two cents quote a third climber aiding their survival one particularly brutal Mount Everest. Ascent has an got were members of the very first expedition that successfully climbed Mount Everest using uncharted path, so this was. Arduous journey. The ghostly mountaineer that the men ran into. I would hope that on that kind of journey. You'd want to hold your head up high. Oh, an arduous journey got it Arjun journey no gone account. Topical Jokes Katrina. All home bringing the topical Joe Folks. But a band from the sixties. Early seventies actually but. I will look that shit up seventy two Arjun. Hold your head up. Featuring Rod Argenta. Former lead singer of zombies founded in nineteen sixty nine. Yeah, but when was that song hit? I didn't say. When was the song ahead? I said a banned from the sixteen. semantics. So the ghostly mountaineer that them, so the ghostly mountaineer that the men encountered apparently helped them out, he provided extra company, and encouragement has an in Scott claimed that the phantom climber help them make it through the night. And then he just disappeared. That reminds me of that story of the the woods that kill people. You talked about one time. There is a group of kids. And the waters were rising. The rivers were rising, and there was always someone at the river to help them across, but it turns out. There was no one there something that story vaguely vaguely. That's called the third man factor. Oh, that's the it's a thing. It's an extraordinary account of how people at the very edge of death often sense an unseen presence beside them who encourages them to make one final effort to survive? They offer a feeling of hope, protection guidance, and it leaves the person convinced that he or she is not alone. wikipedia says that Sir Ernest Shackleton during the Shackleton Expeditions wrote in his book, South his belief that a in corporal being joined him in two others during the. The final leg of their journey Shackleton wrote during that long and racking march of thirty six hours over the unnamed mountains and glaciers of south Georgia. It seemed to me often that we were four. Not Three. His admission resulted in other survivors of extreme hardship, coming forward and sharing similar experiences in recent years, well known adventurers like climber, reinhold, Messner and polar. Explorers Peter, Hillary, and Bancroft reported that exact same experience. Some some people think of it as a Guardian Angel. Some people think of it as imaginary friend I'd like to think that if I was in that kind of situation and some sort of spirits, being came to me to encourage me to withstand pressures and persevere I. It would be Michael Jordan. Would it yeah okay? I would follow Michael Jordan's advice, absolutely Michael Jordan. Talk me into just about anything I'd be like you're right Michael. A lot of people say an explanation for this is a coping mechanism for the brain. Modern psychologists have actually used the third man factor to treat victims of trauma Oh the cultivated inner character lens imagined support and comfort. That's kind of a nice place to end I think. On the story rather than? People stepping over frozen corpses, and that was nice top of. Ghosts. Thing in the middle today's thing in the middle once again called from the freaks group on facebook. Jesse rights anyone else's family have words that they use that. No one else understands in my family. If you're about to say something, and then you suddenly forget, or you can't remember something that you know you know. We call it a brain fart I just said brain fart to a friend and she. She was so confused she'd never heard the term. Yeah and I think that's really interesting. And so many people chimed in with their family words that don't make no sense and I love it number five. Emily writes I'm from New York originally and we call people. Things like chew ch and Scotch I. Don't know how to spell it exactly, but it means you're being a pain in the ass. L. Says Oh. We have so many family. Speak Words that I could go on for days. Some of them are rubber, husband, but dollies and waffle juice. They all sound bad, but they aren't, but she doesn't go on to say what they are for I. Wish I need to know what waffle juice a- need to know? What but dollies are I think I might need one. Linda commented Google Equals ibook irs. Yam Equals huge turn I light equals too bright. Just left a huge GM into the room. Bob Number two Julius. My mom has a habit of adding the ending equal to a body part for example, if you wearing the bride's on the boob area. Wear shoes that your critical area! And it seems totally normal to me I. Love It. Analysis writes in zombies is Arby's means. Those little balls of fluff that you vacuum up. ZOMBIES I love those things. My sister always called the the stuff that gathers in the bottom of a sink trainer Grete, and I liked that very much I thought it was very a descriptive, and it sounds like the right word to use its Gret of adopted that myself. Friend's MOM. Always called Farts fluffs fluffs. Heard that yeah. Hoop fluff. My, mom when she wanted you to do, something quickly would say higgledy-piggledy. Go Clean Your Room higgledy-piggledy. Sure why authoritative when you say that. Yeah, I mean it hastily. The box auditees with cat and Ja- through Gilligan to off. What do you got for me? What you. What? I was doing the robot during that. Have, you ever heard of Dog Mountain? No, are we doing to mountain? Stories back toback sort of. I mean it is a mountain, yes. Dog Mountain is set upon about one hundred fifty acres a private mountain top spot in Saint. John's Barre Vermont the grounds are almost always open to people and their dogs. It was started by Stephen, neck and Gwen Hugh Neck. Stephen Hyun was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, eight in Columbus. Ohio he was an American Wood. Carver artist, furniture, maker, painter, and author. He was a self taught sculptor Stephen started out as an antique furniture picker, and through that experience. He said that he learned about good design and how to build furniture that lasts forever, and he studied the furniture, so then he started to build the furniture. Stephen had very good fortune to be discovered doing the thing that he loved. He carved his first piece. It was an angel and. And it was in the back of his truck, and he was discovered in Nineteen eighty-four, when a man started pulling the angel out of the back of his truck, and he said. How much do you want for this angel and Hyun? It was not intending to sell it, and he believed that the guy wouldn't pay what he wanted for it anyway, so he said a thousand dollars in the man revealed himself to be an art dealer for Manhattan, and he gave the guy a thousand dollars. This is the type of story. Yeah. It really is so. The Art dealer paid Stephen The thousand dollars and that was that he was now an artist. In The New York Times in nineteen, Eighty, eight, there was an article that states in a short time several of Mr H- UNIX works were sold through that dealer. One fetch ten thousand dollars. I never made half that on an antique Stephen who was thirty nine at the time said. This seems like a miracle within two years of the sale from his pickup truck. His works were. Were being widely exhibited as examples of Faux Card from the Stamford Museum and Nature Center to the White House. Mr Pieces are in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian Institution the Dog Museum of America and the American Kennel Club so in Nineteen ninety-four. Stephen suffered from adult respiratory distress syndrome after he fell down a flight of stairs, and it left him in a coma for two months. the, doctors were not hopeful, but with the help of his wife Gwen. Stephen made a full recovery. He pretty much had to relearn everything how to walk how to sign his own name, and just before this accident had taken place, he's was inspired to do a series of woodcut prints based on his dog sally. So after he woke up from the coma once he was able to Stephen began working. Working on these would cuts, and the I would cut. He carved was called. Life is a ball, and that celebrated his newfound life, and it remains one of the most cherished and iconic of his works You can probably picture it. It's kind of a rectangular piece, and it's a water line on the bottom with dogs head coming up out of the water after a ball and at the bottom. Bottom, it says life is ball. It's real simplistic, but beautiful, and well done and anyway I love it so Stephen and Gwen. It didn't have kids, but they always had dogs. They were there constant companions, and they felt that they were compelled to do something special, and after Stevens near death experience, they bought a property in one, thousand, nine, hundred five to do this project dog mountain, the centerpiece of. Of Dog, mountain is the dog chapel and that opened its doors memorial. Day weekend of the year. Two thousand Dog Mountain is an unspoiled haven. It's Scott Hiking trails and and Dob Pons. There's wild flowers in the summer and you can snowshoe in the winter. leashes are not required. You are encouraged to bring your dogs and just let them beat dogs, and this is in Saint John's Berry. Correct Okay Stephen spoke of his passion project and said I've learned so much more about love from my dogs than I ever did my parents or the church. He's quoted in the Chicago Tribune as saying they're really great teachers, and they love you with their whole hearts, so dog mountain is a vast park like space and is open to the public at no charge it. It also includes a gallery of Stevens Artwork and fun agility course for dogs I mean as post people could do it, too, but you know probably more fun for the dogs. Stephen and Gwen turned the barn that was on the property into a studio space. He said I'm a hand carver. I love the texture. You can get only by hand and he carved almost. Almost every single day of the year he would take time out to walk the dogs obviously, but he was pretty much just wanted. It's what he did. It's how he spent his time and being self taught. He carved very unique style, some referred to as backward carving, so he carved toward himself. Other artists were very curious about this style and one actually asked. Asked if he could come and stay with Stephen and Gwen for a month spend a month. Just watching him carve so that he could learn his style because he loved what he produced by sea, and the style is unique to Stephen, so he wanted to kind of absorb them. It's kind of counterintuitive though you don't WanNa. Be Carving toward yourself with sharp pokey thing. Stephen and Gwen very private people, though so they declined the offer of having a random stranger artist. Come live with them for a month. They like I said they didn't have kids, but they did have three dogs, two black labs, daisy and Sally and molly a golden retriever. Stephen built. The Dog Chapel himself in the style of twenty s Vermont Village Church. It is small, modest and white. The chapel resembles a regular new. England church from the outside, aside from the steeple topped with a Labrador with wings. One? A sign out front proclaims welcome all creeds, all breeds. No Dogmas allowed. This is according to the New York. Times inside the four pews had made by Mr Huhne are supported by carved wooden dogs stained glass windows depict dogs in various poses, and the walls are covered inches thick with photos and handwritten notes to departed pets. Place there by their grieving visitors, according to John is who is gwynn's brother in an interview with NPR. Stevens said that the dog chapel was his largest and most personal artwork, and it really is. It's a masterpiece. The videos that I watched. It's almost spiritual. People walk inside, and there's this real reverence. Wait. That's carried there and you can see these handwritten notes. That say things like Frankie. These sixteen years were the best years of my life. I'll never forget you my sweet hot dog. You know that kind of thing. Some our work is obviously made by children grieving. They're they're lost pets. It's really an emotional place. What a beautiful project would a beautiful effort would a beautiful work of art that is, and it was so personal to them. It was such a passion project a thing that they believed that that we need to have unfortunately the UNIX fell on hard times during the two thousand eight financial crisis and Steven in January of two thousand, ten was despondent over having to have laid off employees. They lost a lot of money. They weren't able to maintain the employees that they had hired. And so at the age of sixty one, he took his own life in June of two thousand thirteen, after three years of maintaining dog mountain on her own and struggling to keep it going and grow this project that meant so much to her and her husband. Gwen passed away as well. The Dog Mountain community released a statement. Gwen never got over the loss of Stephen and missed him terribly every day. As you all know after Stephen's death, she devoted her life to continuing his legacy as a great artist, she continued to manage the gallery and kept active in community affairs. She vowed to help. Turn Saint John's Berry into one. One of the most dog friendly places in Vermont so this year, the twentieth anniversary of the opening of the dog chapel the dog mountain website posted finally in the year two thousand, the dog chapel was introduced to the world is a symbol of peace, love and remembrance in the twenty years, since it has been transformed into a living piece of communal art and history ever-evolving, each new note and photo pin to the overflowing walls, the chapel has become a unique and moving physical embodiment of the unending love. People have to give in these times especially places like the dog chapel deserve to be celebrated and cherished. That is so beautiful. It's sad that that his life ended with him being despondent and sad. Because clearly, he gave so much joy to people through his works and. This one in particular, the the struggle was not new, though he had lived most of his life, battling depression, and so it was I from the vibe. That I got from the articles that I. Read and the statements released by friends and relatives. It seems like this was kind of all that he could handle like he gave what he wanted to give back and was would just wasn't able to fight anymore. It's interesting. How many creative people suffer from depression? I've not seen any statistics on it, but I would venture to guess it's a pretty high percentage. Absolutely name so friends of Dog Mountain is a nonprofit organization that was established by family and friends of Stephen and Gwen. That's committed to ensuring the dog mountain and the Stephen Unit Gallery and the dog chapel will not just survive. Survive but thrive, and you can find more on the website. Dog Mt Dot Com. There's all kinds of information about Stevens art and the legacy, and where you can donate to help. Keep this passion project going. There's actually been a documentary made about the location as well. It's called Dog Mountain, a love story and I think I'd really like to watch that slash. Never Watch it because I don't think I'll make it through. Yeah. We have a very dear friend who had to say goodbye to his dog today. So. This story I think affects you and I may be. A bit more because of that I know this is kind of a bummer and I tried to figure out like how to like. Put the whole death part in the first part and then move, but there's no way you. GotTa tell a story as it is, and so I wanted to leave you with this. It's a quote from Stephen Eunuch that I found him. 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Groundhog Day (1993)

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Groundhog Day (1993)

"Then put your little hand in there in a A.. Okay campers his rise and shine. And don't forget your booties because it's cold out there today. It's cold out there ever did JIM. I'm Erin welcome to the GROUNDHOG Day. podcast one thousand nine hundred ninety s Bill Murray Vehicle Bill Murray Andie macdowell. What a lot of famous faces from the nineties and this one Brian Doyle Murray who I just tried to approximate and failed old miserably. No doubt Iran. How many times have you seen this movie? I was just thinking about that by the way. This is directed by Harold Ramos written by Dany Ribbon and Harold Ramos I have seen this movie on camera twelve times and I I was thinking that like at least that many bright at least that many. Because there's a time where I'd like as a late teens early. Twenty something where. I was borderline obsessed with this film. It was a an the era when this movie was on. TV All the time just basic cable. Yeah some of the networks for playing reruns of it. I saw it constantly. Yeah and I I love this movie. I've seen it with my son twice like one when he was real little and then one like I think right around the time where we did this for charity. Marathon So I think I'm at least twenty five. I've got a silver jubilee thing going on with this what about you yeah. I'm right there with you. It's between the twelve that I saw it and all my childhood viewings dealings the most recent. Viewing this podcast. which you would think? Maybe we wouldn't need to watch it again but there are so many little things in there that you pick out every time you watch it. Certainly I could have made a podcast without watching this again. Nobody would have told the difference but I. It's because I all right. Let's let's approach it from this direction. Shen you and I both kind of expressed that we didn't WanNa see this movie for a very long time after we watched the groundhogs day marathon. And if you're unfamiliar three years ago the whole reason we're doing this in fact is to kind of kick off the third annual groundhog day charity. Marathon celebration thing three years ago. Jim and I had had a dream name that we would watch. GROUNDHOG's Day groundhog day. The movie on Groundhog Day. The actual physical tin quarrel aural space and time for the entire period of the entire twenty four hours midnight to midnight and we made that dream come true. We raised a bunch of money see for a worthy charity. The National Alliance in Homelessness And then we said we never want to watch this movie again. Three years later you've watched a movie again to gear up for a charity street. I feel like that your position has softened. How how much does this often as much as bill? Murray's heart softened in this film. It's yeah I it's just so easy to watch. This is rare romantic comedies. That I enjoy. Yeah because it is in fact that it has so much of like this exploration of the theme and the exploration of the scenario that. I really enjoy that. Did I overlook the fact that it's romantic comedy and it's very well written too. It's not like it's Just some cheesy thing that they sort of shit out onto the page. It's astonishingly astonishly astonishingly well-constructed conceived and I WanNa talk about that eventually. But I win I because it was a bit of the process. Even Watch this God damn movie because for whatever reason Amazon is we own this thing on Amazon. I think from the last time we watched it. we own on Amazon. But it's been a real asshole like it was playing study and then it would get in the video would go away so I had to dig out my own personal copy and I was kind of upset Eh. Soon as like the things started. And you got that blue skies The opening credits the cheerful polka music. I'm like I'm in and you know the other. The thing is like the core of the the groundhog day movie feels very familiar. The actual groundhog day loop such that that the I I don't know why but I forget a lot of the beginning part because he only experience that once per voyage through the movie share that like twenty five. Ah Day I'm in the thousands. I develop vignettes of him. Sitting at the diner and stepping in puddles isn't shit. I've seen hundreds thousands of times but him you know Given shit the Larry Him his first contentious relationship with Andy macdowell him. I'm being just a kind of a a royal. Shitter around the newsroom is is still very fresh. Those those first teen minutes steel fueled crackle with excitement and promise Rama's yeah yeah and then you get into the comfort zone of the repeating day you sure. Do you sure do but I just realized I love everything about this movie. I think I could do another marathon. I think maybe if for a five year anniversary we we just roll back to classic. Yeah Yeah because I could take another twenty four hours is a pretty sure that maybe twelve hours in my brain starting to melt but I send you will have learned piano. I I I made my notes for this movie on top of I kept the Groundhog Day Journal When we did yeah on my phone I had an empty document whereas just writing down like memorable times like five o'clock in the morning when the network shit out and we thought that five hours in this thing it was just going to flame out at six forty five? Am Am is. When the GROUNDHOG I popped up animated in its full glory? Okay fill a eight twenty. Five PM is win. I sang. I got you babe. Okay just just the highlights of that marathon stream and again. Because I forget to talk about this because I'm going to get wrapped up in the movie this week Gin starting on Friday at noon. That's January What does that January thirty first? Yes noon eastern standard time juvenile going to take the twitch dot TV slash bald move. And we're going to have a twenty four hour disaster movie marathon. We're GONNA BE SEEING WE'RE GONNA kick it off at Armageddon and then we're GonNa take a tour of everything that can happen in this planet earth. We're going to go through twenty twelve We're going to go through Left behind for the spirits of the actual Armageddon We're going to go through twister volcano If you've heard of a disaster movie were probably going to watch it And we're GONNA have a great time I and this year We are GONNA be raising money for Relief for the Australian bushfires we are giving all proceeds net proceeds to the Australian Red Cross. Who has been doing a lot of humanitarian work? out there so if you're hearing this podcast and sounds like something that you would be getting up for are than please go to twitter dot TV slash ball move. It's easy to donate a we'll be keeping track of everything and we're GonNa be given prizes way. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's a highlight. It's been the the highlight of our year for the last two years running. Okay so now. Do we know why we are dusting off this nineteen ninety-three movie to give it a review. I'm kind of surprised we didn't review it before it seemed like. Why did we not decide to do just of a groundhog day? Movie Review after the Syrian. I don't know that I could have really it's like I've just watched this movie twelve times. I don't know that I had it in me. spiritually to able to talk at all about this film. Ah needed that three years of space that two years of space. So how do we want to talk about this movie. I I kind of want to make some observations about the main characters at first okay. Yeah 'cause I I WANNA talk about the actors that would be good. Okay meshing the so phil played by Bill. Murray is this Bill Murray's best role to my mind probably so so the range that he has to show in. This movie is broader than the stuff he normally has to do because normally he's like a character has a defined personality and he brings that to the role in this movie. His personality evolves drastically over the course of the film. Yeah And this I think uniquely because you could throw there's A. He's done a lot of good movies. Lost in translation lost in translation as the other one is kind of in the running for best movie but I think you're right from a rain standpoint. It's it doesn't hold a candle to groundhog day. And part of the reason I think it's such a great showcase Is Because Herald Ramos. Who at the time was one of Bill? Murray is very good friends intentionally intentionally punched up the script every time he found a place. It's like oh I could see bill saying this. He would just rewrite the line rewrite situation to suit his style of comedy. It's like it's like a lot of Bill Murray comedies. You see him and it's like he's a very funny man in a JC Penney Suit Herald Ramos's tailoring that thing it like you know taken taking into waste making sure that the sleeve falls just so You know and and that I think comes comes through so yeah I think this is clearly his his best movie What we know about Phil at the START I think Phil on ironically is a good weatherman? He's yeah it's interesting because his style is very much there's a self deprecating quality about it but he doesn't go full like will or brim. Who is the first I The today show Weatherman has AL broker brokers that he took over from a guy who before you know had. Yeah I have no idea who that is. It's like these these They've got a history kind of like pleasingly plump eccentric outsized personalities and like fill is funny. But he's also pretty cynical. That's yeah but he's not really self effacing it's it's funny but not in in like a perfunctory. Almost like it's like like if David Letterman had never gotten famous added added flamed out and was bitter about it and he was the Weatherman on your on your local news. Yeah I could see that. Yeah like like Dave. Letterman had a failed career in broadcasting and he came back with his tail between his legs and he. Did you know the the morning show on channel eight in Indianapolis. That's the energy. He's channeling which I actually think would be entertaining us. faulk doc sure he probably just be festering in in a pit of black despaired as kind of fill seems to be doing yeah. I don't think he's living his best life. Yeah Yeah but why is that. I think he's frustrated. You know he's talking at the beginning about how he's he's got notice from other stations or it's very much a weatherman nicholas cage kind of situation where he's got this. Maybe this this hook That he's got in somebody somewhere. But here it's even more nebulous. It's not like a real plot thread So yeah I think he like like knows that he could be destined for better things but he stuck in this. Low Level Weatherman GIG. Isn't that like I feel like to to accent it. Like a lot of people have on we about their life. Isn't that like because the thing is is bill. I'm sorry not bill. Murray Phil Connors here is capable of great things in the course to this movie. He essentially obtained a medical degree. He becomes like a concert pianist He learns how to Sculpt Ice Parlor Magic He he's he's capable of like are there is somebody Some comedian I think talking about like you know we always complain about not having a superpower right. You know like we don't complain but it's like people man what if I could fly or what if I could do this. It's like inside of all of us. We have the power to water ski. And we have the AH the power to like Sprint really fast and swim really fast and holder breath for five ten minutes like every human beings capable of this. Now it's like they're all untapped superpowers and I think that's what's eating at fill that he feels like he's got all the B- like everyone has that well did he just can't get out of his own way. Yeah he's self self-sabotaging throughout the beginning of this film because it's it's like It's like a a a a a fixation on like if I only get to this level of success us and dreams then I can start enjoying life if I get this big GIG on the weather channel or the big at this on the today show then. Then you know my life will be full-time Bang. supermodels on's Disease Tropical Islands. I mean that is probably his goal right. It's it's like that's what he wants to do. His life has manifested throughout the course of this very very long day. We see all the things that he tries when he when he realizes the power he has right and none of these things bring him satisfaction right. It's it's only at the end when he has gotten out of his own way and truly understood what makes him happy and and the people around him happy is that's when he finally gets out of the day and becomes a decent human being. Yeah I mean that's the thing it's like I feel like I'm on the cusp of a realization about Like you said getting out of your own way. What does that actually mean? What is the thing that's ended up people's way it usually worry about the future or like shame and regret about the past? And that's very like message which I think is part of the thing that's in the that's in in here but like they. I'm not quite ready to put a pin on what's going on and I think it's different for everybody and it's even hard to pinpoint. Okay I know something is wrong here but what is it. What is the thing that I need to get out of my way? In order to be the best version of me it turns out in a scenario where you're locked into a single day for something like thirty years that you have a lot of time to discover what that thing is and and and almost it's almost like the the sameness of the scenario that he's in every single day enables him to more thoroughly understand himself. Yeah uh because he doesn't have all these changing variables constantly right. Yeah there's also some kind of lake this is something like the core of this delusion where uh like I I look at his first interaction with the BNB lady right. Oh it's terrible. And he's like being so cruel to her but she's also effortlessly charming Ming her like she's because he's a celebrity and like he's being smart and she's not really like stupid enough to pick up. How much like sarcasm and contempt? He has ask for her and her and she's just trying to be agreeable and be happy and I wonder like if our fills problem. Is You know he's trying to push everyone away with this. This asshole asshole persona but he's also so charming that it rarely works or he's the architect of his own. Yes so that just makes it like eight year. That just makes the bigger assholes like one of his conversation a massive astle. Then they're going to hate me and then like fuck she still laughing and thinking of being cute and funny. There's no bottom. There's no bottom this pit that I can do. Yeah it's almost like he got annoyed with all of the You know the fame and the attention and like the did you know in that sort of Paparazzi kind of way. But he needs it for his feeds onto itself becomes an asshole to those people and so when he's an asshole he's also charming in his asshole ARY and so then they wanna talk to him more. It's it's a bit of a marriage with Nick cage in the weatherman right because he wants wants to be liked by everyone and people throw throw milkshakes and food and should add him and he's he's hated because he's kind of I don't I don't oh no. Why why why do people hate him in? The weatherman ought to go listen to our podcast. Figured out from. But there's there's a little like a dark side of each other's coin the movie going on here. What's the better weather man movie groundhog day days? The best weatherman movie is probably ever going to be made. It's pretty damn good because like there's there's definitely dimensions edges. I mean. We loved the WEATHERMAN. We'd we did it on our Nicholas cage super serious film fest It's a great movie movie but this thing I tweeted last night this thing is like tesseract cube like every single time I come back. I never thought like when I watched this. I thought I was going to be like. Oh we're gonNA talk about our favorite parts. WanNa talk about how much fun it was to do. The marathon thing Talk about the new charity thing. But I'm not going to come to the table with anything new to say about the movie literally twenty minutes in. I'm like Oh Shit I've never even thought about how Phil could be re and the God damn things. The tesseract has has shifted yet again. Then why is the weatherman. Such a object of pity amongst film writers. I think it's because they're aquaman of the news team team. Are they really though. Like they're not the anchor men and women who get the important things and they get to make the best jokes and they're not a sports p like people care about. Let's that's true. Sports is so stupid and yet people care so much about it. The weather is the thing like you might not get affected by someone getting gunned down in the street. You might not be affected elected by a structure fire there. Everyone's going to be affected by political scandal. But the weather's GonNa Affect you every Goddamn day and yet it's so mundane be able to. It's like it's like talking to fish rush. Yeah because they're not even the ones who are actually doing the the analysis right often they. They're they're like we're not meteorologists there simply uh-huh oh that's even sadder when they're on by the time you're on camera you don't need to be right you know like you've made it like you're no longer slaving even away at Noah. You're no longer. You know typing out text for weather blasts at some kind of emergency services something. You're actually on camera in front of the blue screen or the green screen And yet you're also probably in everyone's is the least valuable I think there's the that's the qualifications for being. A weatherman are very very low. Need well I would think all you need is a F- full smile and the ability to work on a teleprompter. I thought that they all they actually were licensed meteorologist though too. Isn't it because I 'cause I it's been twenty years since I've watched local news but they always always like Bob Gregory Gregory. I break my perception of the weather. Man is that it's very low qualification position Bob. Gregory is accredited did by the National Accredited Association of meteorologist. Association is in like that was always like before Bob Gregory come out with his stick Gregory. Yeah kebabs Bob. Gregory I love Bob Gregory Gregory whether I had to go to school in the morning in the wintertime it. Yeah I would love that man to you bob and and well. I'd love that man three days out of the year and every every winter like How many snow days prediction and that was always fun? Like I loved keeping track of Bob. Gregory's his track record you know. Was it like Bob says Bob said last year we get twelve so daily Bob. I think that I know a little bit about bias in reporting and how to make doc Bob was real real excited talk about his predictions when he was on track to like. I predicted twenty days of snow on the ground. And we're twenty three and it is February fifteenth. Today's reuse predicted like sixty. And you know it's March first and we've had three days of snow primary quiet. Yeah Yeah Bob. Gregory Gregory a couple of glasses of whiskey. Before Blair yeah apocalyptic. Britain blizzards GONNA hit in April April. We got like like four inches ice. so maybe bothers vindicated onto something. Bob Gregory Best God damn weather man in the country. I'll fight anyone about it. Let's talk about another actor. Let's talk about Steven Tova laskey. Okay Ned Ryerson Holy Shit Stevens Alaska and this move and I if you've only seen groundhog day timer to you might. I know who ned Ryerson and Steven Toby but like being now you know now absolutely dead dead needle nose Ned. What possesses a man to give this performance? It's it's so perfect I don't WanNa say it's not bad it's great it's it's it's leaning into everyone's stereotypes about your face. Yeah he's made a career out of that face and that that annoying personality. Jeff Davis on Harman town said he always talks about at this favorite exercise. He did an acting class where the acting teacher would take you out to a mall and he would have you where you wanNA wear stand you like one hundred feet away and he would call people Over and say look at this guy guy standing under the archway. Here's a piece of paper. Write down the first three things you think about him. Wow and they would do that for like one hundred times and then they would read. Read it out in front of the class like this is like this is like no bullshit. This is no performance. This is the baggage that people bring in about you. I feel like Stephen Polarize. Took those hundred things things. Tumbler Hausky told Leroux Ski. Ski The chocolate man. He took those things about himself and just that was his performance. There were only three words. That came back doc. Everybody gave the same three words. Big Head needle nose And and no no social tact whatsoever. Yeah he he pulls it off his marvelous and he house like a cat with were they when they win. You know bill and everybody or adapt to party at the end of. Hi come across him and say no. We're not going to have dinner with you. And he just house cat. It's I can't imagine ever deciding to give that performance but man and it works. The thing is is like this is the evolved ned like. He says that ned the head the needle nose ned. Those days are behind me. I'm now ned the bull like he's origen. He's gone to a couple of salesman seminars and he's decided what was wrong with this approach. I duNno I duNno. I don't how long been sales insurance salesman got like. What if he just started this like you know a week ago? And he's he's about the flame out his career and Bill Murray Phil Connors keeps him going fifteen insurance policies bills deciding or fill signing up for everything because he thinks his days never going in right Alston. He's on the hook for every eighty insureds investment. This guy's got to sell. It's going to keep him fed for like a couple of months it's just going to prolong the agony. Any the fact that he just can't sell I think that's why he says the end of the movie maybe we'll start by renting when he says we should move here because he just can't afford to buy insurance that's right. He's GonNa have to change his address to dodge all the legally binding commitments that he's made the afford over the last eons of his existence But yeah and the thing is is. There's there's an element to. Here's the reason why fills pretty likable. Even though we've said he's an asshole he's not like reflexively at Astle astle like when this guy comes up to him he's he's uncomfortable with it but he's like you know I'm gonNA fiend polite interest and I'm going to have a conversation. It's only when ned like takes it. Nakedly Bursa Moore you know mercenary Ryder right accolades. I you know I. I love the standard talk with you dead but but I'm not going to I fucking love that if I can love that right I wish it's funny because right before. I sat down to watch groundhog day. Last night I walked through the store where I shit you not I. I was propositioned by unrelated services. People to sell me on on my cable subscription. They WanNa talk to me about how they can save money and my energy bill and lake. I wish I could be this smooth. I wish I could be like you know I'd I'd love to stay in here in this in the store while ice cream is melting in my cart for twenty minutes to have you scan me on some kind of energy bill. But I'm not going to. I wish I I wish I'd be. It takes a certain amount of not giving a fuck about what people think about you and how you make them feel. 'cause I really WanNa do is hug these people I wanna I wanNA give the late stage bill. Murray will hug him and be like man sales hard. This job sucks so bad. But I'm still not GonNa waste my time just because I feel sorry for you but you have value and worth with as a human being turns around like if I could do that since sincerely like like the Dalai Lama could pull something like that off. I can't making a lot of assumptions about the person's life based on their choice of standing in Middle Walmart trying to tell people that they can save money on the energy bill by talking to you for twenty minutes. Yeah this is not where you envision the when we were six years old run around the house with with with the caped hydrogen neck. This is not where you thought you'd we you'd end up absolutely so like you know the do what you gotta do to get that check. I I hope back on your feet somewhere anyway. We do. We have anything else. You want to talk about Ned Ryerson. No can we talk about. GROUNDHOG's Oh I want to talk about the other. We'll I forgot that. We didn't talk about Rita there several. Yeah there are several other people Any McDowell is the perfect person for this role. Because she's adorable. She's also very smarts And she's got a bit of an acid acid tongue herself like when she goes into like the Phil gluttony seen he's just like pack this housing hole sizes the cake aac in his mouth a single by single by with the with the icing to smear decide of his face and he's not going to ever wipe that off throughout any other Taylor no when she just looks at him and says something. It was the lines like I love to see a man of advancing years. Throw caution to the wind. It's inspiring in a way. It's it's such a great line as she delivers it so well you can instantly. You know it's it's not hard. Imagine Fall in love with this woman. Even though she's rocking just Hardcore nineties mom core. Oh Yeah I mean from the close to the hair this said. The smile allows the highways. Jeanne it's an atrocity but this should not be attractive as it is eighty McDowell is just Some sort of angelic creature. It's all coming back to so we have to look forward to and the next two years that's true. We'll start looking like this again. That's true they. I think that there's something very interesting about like Phil instantly hating her from the first jump. Blake Caesar over there fucking around the which I think super cute. She's got a blue coat on. She's fucking everyone like say first time we had green green screen technology here at the office. It was a lot of fun I mean. I put on a Christmas tree hat over over the Christmas festivities and it disappeared and I was thrilled. Yeah just because you're wearing cosmic void on your head. Yeah it's a lot of everyone should be able to play the green screen at least once But she he looks over and You know wasn't Larry saying Oh. Yeah Rita's he does fund raising my kind of fun. Yeah Chris Elliott this movie. It's fucking guy but we'll get there there's again there's another guy Who's just giving performance based on the common cards? He got from the mall. X One other characters we WANNA talk about. We've talked about Kris Elia real quick Larry He's fucking disgusting. He's yeah he's more disgusting in my mind than Bill Murray's character Phil 'cause he doesn't change over the course of the film well he has had one day right. I would like to see quartz. Larry though wouldn't wouldn't that be because here's the thing. Yeah I think Larry comes by his bullshit honestly you know he he takes shit from Philly also gives it but maybe not maybe what you mean what we what are you thinking like. You know that. Like maybe he's his put upon beat down like you know just just just did well he. He hasn't one line about cameraman right when he's trying to seduce Nancy. Or whatever pizarro yeah the people think that the camera just points the camera things and that's it but it's not that easy there's more to it clearly. Someone in his past has told him this right like he's gotten a lot of shit for just being a camera man. I don't know I was thinking like I grew up in. But what he actually says is. He's from California he'd been covering hovering like for six years the migration swallows from whatever like I don't know maybe he doesn't have any excuse to be this obtuse and gross i. I don't thanks so I don't think many people do but on the other hand it's like you know up until recently. There's been a lot of societal pressure to like mold men into shape. You know rather within kind of like you know repeal if if you if you came out of the mold and a repulsive shape and your attitude or whatever you're wearing your manner wasn't a lot a lot of pressure like making you feel bad about that and thinking about like. Hey maybe it'd be more successful if you change so yeah you know. Latest product of society is what I'm saying I found found out that So you knew Brian. Doyle Murray's Bill Murray's brother I did did you. The bill. Murray has three two other brothers rather I know he has one other brother but I and I seen him in a role or to Murray. You've definitely seen him. He played Fred. Rumson in Madman. Yes yes yes. That's another one so that's other one. There's another murray brother out there is. He's been in a few movies. He was in like stripes and caddyshack has like bit roles and okay so like he's he's not super famous he hasn't Act Lot. I see the Brian and bill are definitely insurance too or the four brothers does does he sell insurance he might. I don't know probably now to all other very brothers. Yeah the fifteen policies. It keeps him in. Remember me we. We grabbed together All right what other. What other characters? We want to talk about who we want to get you before we get to further talk about the. I WanNa talk about Groundhog Day. The actual celebration okay. Because when we came into the groundhog day marathon. I'd seen groundhog day a lot. But it never occurred to me to actually Lee like look up Punxsutawney Phil and like how this all works So the first time I actually saw a real the other thing is these things happen. Incredibly early in the morning. Yup It happens at the break down which you know in February's not super early but still it's a pretty early morning celebration. Which is why I never truck with seven? Am Him. I think is around the time that we were in might've been just when the Dawn. It's like as dawn is breaking. This does not gablers. SNOB is not in any kind of charming town square. It's out in the middle of nowhere Just as big open field where literally thousands of Times Square in the middle of a godforsaken rule woods and Pennsylvania dudes are all dressed up. They they they they have all the RAZZMATAZZ UIL to have the scrolls There's a lot more elaborate. There's like rhyming stanzas. The guy that they've really making me laugh at nowaday like like the vendor cart selling popcorn roasted roasted nuts and the polka dancing and two gazebos and like the small town. I didn't see that there is lots of generators and bright lights and probably the smell. The diesel fume you can. You can smell it over the camera. Yeah I wish to. Real event was anywhere near as charming as depicted on the film. That's true of most events you know like you've you mentioned like New Year's Eve sort of thing New Year's Eve is hell. If you're right you you can barely get out of the crowd to go to bathroom. You have to stand there for hours and hours and hours in the freezing cold by the time the performance comes on you can barely hear it. They're yours crushed against fences constantly. It's a nightmare. It's hard to get access to booze the food you know it's just like It's an endurance thing than it is like a fun celebration I also first time was motivated to find out how this groundhog day shit got started like. Do you know anything about this so like Bill Murray is like they pull the rat out. They look at him houses shadow. Shit work okay. You used to eat it. You're a hypocrite the funny so I looked it up and this is on the the history dot com website and it turns out. It's all by Hitler's Alien No no I wasn't sure about its ancient Egypt's ancient Egyptian ancient Egypt's ancient Egypt. ABC's the worship the rat as prognosticator. No that says according to tradition. If the groundhog comes out of its hole on grounds and sees its shadow it gets scared and and runs back in its burrow which predict six more weeks of winter weather if it doesn't see shadow and remains relaxed. It's time for spring. Okay so this day has has its roots in the ancient Christian traditions around Christmas and candlemas which is where the clergy would bless and distribute candles that they thought would be needed for the winter The candles represented how long cold that thought the winter was thought to be The Germans took this tradition. I and expanded it by selecting an animal the Hedgehog as an animal. The had the capability predicting weather fun when okay. I'm waiting for the GROUNDHOG. UK On this win these German assignation style. What he's doing agile? When the German immigrants came to America they settled in Pennsylvania Lavinia and continues tradition? Although hedgehogs were nowhere to be found in North America they made a substitution. They adopted the groundhogs plentiful in the keystone state And this is often thought to be. This might be Apocryphal. But this is where the best guess of where this particular Titian came out the groundhogs. The real animal go when the hibernation in the late fall and if you know anything about hibernation their body temperature drops their heartbeats slowed down they lose up to thirty percent of their body. Mass and February very male groundhogs almost had hedgehogs in February male groundhogs emerge from their burrows to look for a mate but not predict the weather. And they do this for like like Like a period of days or weeks before they go back underground and wait for the rest of winter out and they come out for good march. So like if. You're just observing hedgehog behavioral. You see 'em come out scurry career around maybe going another whole come out and then go back down. It's like oh he's afraid he's going back in and hide from the winter and thus a hundred year old tradition is born. Also apparently Punxsutawney Phil is only like the most popular. There's like these types of festivals all over the Midwest and eastern seaboard. I assumed yeah. Yeah and they all have different names. James they're not all fill Do you think it's interesting in like mad away. That was new newark nate yet. No there's actually it was something like did you making that one. That was just like that. Yeah there's Miami Mitch Colorado Charlie Do you think it's interesting that they both share the name Phil I do. I feel this the surrealness to does and I thought what a what a ballsy decision Zhen somewhere along the writing process here. Like what are we going to call the the the main character here. Yeah we'll fill. Isn't that a little too silly. Isn't that like the groundhogs named Phil we really call them. Fill and then you say yeah and you go okay. Well that actually makes a certain medicines. Imagine this groundhog's life is just being stuffed in a box. Fox pulled out once a year and that felt like a sort of unreasonable existence. Similar to what Bill Maher was experiencing. Yeah and there's all kinds of this is built like once I started like formulating this like. Oh it's still. It's like a funny joke. That like he'd be stuck in this experience he's he's having with Phil but there's even more to like. Everyone looks to fill as having the answer for the weather and yet fill is. This is the one day where he's completely wrong as prediction And I think that that there's there's a lot of interesting things rolling around there. Did you read anything about the how the script has made. No so Danny Rubin and who's the one that Kinda came up the idea apparently sitting in a movie theater one day and he was trying to come up with what's called a calling card script has agents like you need to have like a a wealth. Well fleshed out treatment that you're ready to slap down anytime someone says. Oh you got a project. You're working on interesting so he he was in the middle of a movie theater. Thought about what it would be like to be an immortal and and like how you would change over time. And he's a fascinating concept but it's like man think about like a mortal living through periods of time. It's now it's like a multiple period piece of expensive. There's no way could ever get made so. He came up with the idea of a man being stuck in the same day to make cheese. That's the exact opposite of how I would come. Come up with this script it gets better. You would come from a core concede of like what if somebody was stuck in a single day but he came around this this is is all a mercantile endeavor. He wants sit around the holiday K.. But not a well because then it would have repeat like every year people know. It's time to watch but he wanted. It's something that like wouldn't get crowded out by like Halloween or Christmas. So we picked He he said at the around the new year changing so he's looking for holidays around January like in the new year and I can't do Washington Day can't fucking groundhog's Day Groundhog de eh coupons. In groundhog's though yeah happens groundhog day. And then he got attached with a herald Ramos who took the scripts and said Oh. This is great eight from my friend. Bill Murray's we punched it up to make a very specific bill. Murray vehicle and this is after Tom. Hanks pass on this. He was the first to us and then Batman Man Michael. Keaton was a second choice. Michael Keaton would have been excellent in. This is the only other person I can imagine. Yeah having the same kind of charisma smurfs cynicism the right. I'm trying to imagine Tom Hanks at the beginning of this movie. And it's really difficult. Tom Hanks does seem to struggle. Playing like an asshole Seoul character. I've seen him as -ception of him. Or what have you seen them in playing an asshole like like he plays a villain and road to perdition and seen it But even then it's like a heart a goal. He's like a gang contract. Gang killer. Article can't kill kids. I can't remember what it was. I need to watch that movie again. He only kills kids. It's like literally the AH hey life has yet so they haven't even lived alive for. It's also like it's like You know just a Redo the spiritual redo so they pinch it up and then within the the the Movie Studio got a hold of it and said well 'cause because both hailed Ramos and Danny Rubin wanted to start this like they actually want to start the movie where you're like five or six loops into the process already and then the audience just slowly discovers what's going on through his experience and the studios I I ain't GonNa lose people what you need. Is You need to have him. Messily break up with his girlfriend in Pittsburgh who happens to be a witch and she's GonNa with an old spell we'll start this explicitly like curse thing and Harold Ramos's like okay. Sure but and so they did that. They turned into traditional three act. Structure Structure Arena. Had the beginning where he doesn't know then you stuck in the loop and he gets out of the loop and then he actually thought that made the movie structural. You're better and then he went to the baton and said we got to get rid of the witch absolutely and this is this. That's how groundhog day. Got Written explicitly a resume kind of like Colin cynical for a symbol for for assembly for Max Amom like yeah. It almost feel like that. The plan plan worked because he set out to make did beloved classic intriguing and and yet it also effortlessly is that thing. I'm like if you if I told you a story where it's like this guy just like just just got hit in the head and he had this this this this concept and he just had to. Do you probably believe that too. It's like a passion absolutely because that's how I would've approached it but like what does this concept. Okay where the logical extremes here. Let's explore the space but man that cynical but I'm still glad it exists. Yes and I'm glad that exists in the form of does although I would be really interested to see how the five to six loops in version would work. Yeah I think it'd be more daring film. Yeah 'cause I wouldn't describe this film particularly daring. I think there are a few scenes and moments that get very dark but the witch version would have been awful. So here's the La- the last piece of the the spice they got put in the stew Gerald Ramos convinced his friend Bill. Murray to be in this movie and he wrote it explicitly for him Bill Murray had to take some convincing. Because he's going through some bad times he was going through a bitter divorce heaters rocky time in his life where he had independently of this movies started hearing people attaching his name with Herald Ramos together and he got his head that people thought the Herald was responsible for all the success. And he's starting to get quietly allie bitter about it so he gets a bitter pissed off angry. Bill Murray arriving on set and I guess he's a real. He's just a real astle. He wants to like mute. The comedy comedy aspects and lean into dark and darkness and Pathos. He'll have the rest of his career to do that but I think that the movie moving needed that right like it needed some of that where he's got that like this. This winter's going to be long. It's going to be cold. It's going to last the rest of your life that haunted the Bill Murray. That is missing. The movie also misses like a little bit of its greatness right. Oh yeah it becomes too saccharine. Yeah so all these a studio interference. This guy wants to make a commercial ISKOE accessible hit herro Ramos Wotton to do this like role explicitly for his friend that he loved bill. Murray being shitter later and having a really bad though this ended their relationship. Yeah you were talking about that. This is like the saddest thing in the world that like after. This movie was so bad that like bill bill. Murray and Harold Ramos stopped working together. They didn't speak for twenty years and still Herrell Ramos was on his deathbed. Wow Brian Bill's brother basically basically said like look. If you don't make peace with this man you're gonNA regret it for the rest of your fucking life. And he did. What did I? That's what I'm saying like this this movie if it if if one little thing had happened differently we wouldn't have gotten a greatness. It is groundhog yet. And I'm sure there are other movies just like this. That things did happen differently early and they never got off the ground or they became success. Yeah because one thing went wrong. Yeah so one of the things that like. This has has gotten a reputation in the last thirty years being Oh my God I just realized that like if we do this as a five or six or anniversary also be thirtieth breath anniversary of ground. It starting to feel like we're going to have to do this again in a couple of years or maybe edge of tomorrow Russian doggone instead of fate and destiny because a lot of people that there's an article I think written in two thousand six calling this the most spiritual film of its generation and I started digging being that it turns out that Ramos was raised with quote unquote ambiguous religious beliefs. He was agnostic raised Jewish And then he married a Buddhist okay so he brings in all these traditions and as a result there's tons articles. You can find Hindus and Buddhist phrasing it because of its themes of selflessness and rebirth reincarnation like Catholics dig it because they see like a version of purgatory as approachable and understandable. Like you know that kind of fits fits their beliefs like hand and glove. Jewish people see inspiration in fact at fills able to escape this pitiable state after he performs good deeds and is is not goes. He doesn't go to heaven but in fact he's returned to Earth that continue to perform yet more like it depicts the no matter what your spiritual background that it seems like like you can find something to appreciate about this movie. Yeah it's universally Acceptable I think. Yeah which I think is one other keys of his success that you had this band was like one of the one shaping the film that had respect and was steeped in traditions of all these different religions. How long do you think the period of time is? That's portrayed in this movie so I've heard I think it's Herald. Ramos talked about this. He said something like ten thousand days of Lear's thirty years that line thousand years he said a bunch of things the first statement eight-minute that I tracked down. He said that In an interview he said according to Buddhist doctrine it takes ten thousand years for soul to evolve into the next level level of enlightenment and he thinks that spiritually speaking groundhog day takes about ten thousand years. Whole K yeah Eases Zinin the DVD commentary which recorded a few years later Ramos estimated that he thinks that the duration depict on films more like ten years and then then a year later he told a reporter that he thought the tenure estimate was too short that he gave on the commentary that it takes at least ten years to get good on at anything and allotting outing for downtime and like suicide art that he thinks at least thirty or forty years That's the one I've heard. Yeah did you read the what the Culture Article UH where they tried to put a time frame on like how long it would take to get like his quote unquote honorary medical degree. How long would take to become a concert? Level pianist list and they had they had it all up as a minimum of twelve thousand three hundred ninety five days about thirty five years in Groundhog Day. And that's just from like ice sculpting and it's just like how long would take to get like a mastery at that particular hobby. I don't know that's the thing is like I never even considered thinking talking about those questions but it came up a lot when we're doing the the marathon like people seem to fascinated about like. Is there secret. They're figuring out exactly how long you spend time we'll loop. Well I think you and I both independently identified different phases for this film. The second but like I'm I'm curious to see how how long he spins in each phase because there are certainly phases the would take longer than others right. Mastery of skills sure takes a lot longer than the despair. Fake sure sure and in things like there the first period that so. Let's talk about this and the groundhog day. So we're GONNA explicitly start talking about the movie. Yeah like an hour into this review. Oh I call this phase yesterday okay and this is essentially the day before you the day before groundhog day and I think also encompasses the first groundhog day. Yeah where you have you know he. He goes to the town spins the ninety wakes up. It's Groundhog Day The snowstorm the he predicted is going to be. I pushed is going to actually hit. He's going to be dead center in it And then it leads to the next phase as which I call is the the period dawning realization. I call it the what the fuck face. So this is encompasses the second and third day and I love the way Murray plays that second day like he's sober. He scared but he's not crazy. He's a man of science thinks. Oh maybe I had a dream. Yeah or or more like this town is just kind of weird and everything's Today's the same and like what is not a whole weekend festival around here maybe the Cameron's fucking with him somehow or something thing. Yeah like I like that like that day. Where he's talking about groundhog's Day it's still just once a year right And then like there's this dawning horror as he sees ned again in and Steps into Pothole But he's still game like he goes and he does the same like news re- performance And Ed he's I love the lion where he's called about the long distance lines and there say it's going to be fixed tomorrow. Well what if there is no tomorrow and there was a one day and then this is the brilliant of it he comes up with this pixel experiment. Yeah resigned okay. Okay what can I trust he snaps and he puts it on different levels dislike and the next stay. He wakes up and the the pencils hole and in another place and now he knows this is where I start to have huge questions. Logistic questions about this film. Oh yeah if he stays awake awake until six. Am What happens. What goes on in that room? That's a great question at six. AM regardless of what he's is doing he awakes at the exact biological state but he retains the memories and experiences. Were also discrepancy there because there is one day hey in which he is actively awake already before the clock flips over so I don't understand like win exactly. There's one day where he's lying there waiting and the thing comes on and it's like right at the despair turn right so I had that exact and rewind a couple times to me. It's I am bigamous weather. He's laying down like waiting for the reset. The happen for he's actually awake and waiting for because you're right. It should be impossible for him to wake up before the reset happened right because he always starts asleep being woken up by the alarm clock. So there's some discrepancy there. It drives me batty. I think it's I think it's you're supposed to understand it. He's he's like laying down defeated waiting for it to happen but it is ambiguous. It does kind of day tonight. I too but it does happen right like everything goes off the same like the day restart. Yeah but I guess to hint. It wouldn't be super noticeable that there is any big change change I wonder if it's a a reset of sort of his mental state to certain parts of it like he retains the memories of the previous day but he doesn't notice that everything everything has changed back or the actual changing moment. It's just sort of happens. And then he goes on as if this is the repeat of the day. Well the other thing is like there's some days where he we seem significantly fresher like yeah during the Depression era. He's got like dark circles and bags under his eyes like he doesn't look well So it's like is there any but the other thing is like at you know Underneath all my analysis of this also it's just a movie right and they're like you know using the makeup and his level of energy to tell the story as well as you know I don't know what the cause like that. That's the thing that I I can explain like. Why does he get progressively more bags under his eyes like is he getting sleep deprived or does he wake up completely biologically refreshed like and and also if you you should? He should be extremely well. Like put aside the depression He should be extremely well rested the day after he gets out out of bed. Grabs the toaster. Yeah electrocute himself right like that's the got out of bed and he's went right back to sleep but then again probably the fundamental misunderstanding of way. Depression works right. Oh I'm sure. Depression is probably taking a physical toll. It's psychological it's universe. The universe psychologically torturing ordering him at some point but this is like the third day where he wakes up and now he's frantic because the pencils broke everything's terrifying saying like the Guy The guy confronting that the staircase well-meaning ned he fucking pushes away like Oh my God odd but then by the end of that day he realizes that he can do whatever he wants which the movie shifts the next phase which I call on hedonism and this is where he he gets at the end of the third day. He's riding the railroad tracks guys. Yeah those cops die right. That was my question. What happens to the cops dead because the second before he he flips it off the right you see them still following get destroyed by and he beats them to the intersection so either flip over into the field or they get get killed right? It doesn't matter either way because they're just going to be. It's a great scene. It's a great scene and it's also it's also interesting way to start talking about the film's morality which I don't WanNa fully were because some of this stuff I want to. I think I'm going to do a follow up podcast on on One Irma talking about this on the next one. We're trick over and Swiss bold okay but like if he kills these cops. What moral standing does that act? Have when everything everything is going to be reset like. You're starting to tread on simulation theory. Yeah I would say it has zero negative or positive have moral impact. Yeah this man because as if he believes that there is no consequence. Now I mean the question gets sticky when you talk about out the final iteration. He never knows when he's GonNa pop out exactly because he's talking about like when he's when he's doing all these. He's preying on women through a lot of this movie Specifically preying on Rita and I kind of want to explore some of that but I made me think about like in the near future when we have like you know. VR simulations like Let's say you've got like a hopeless man or woman They're very socially awkward very nervous. They can't find dates because of this is creepy if they go on dating simulator to have some generic person that they can pretend to have a conversation with and it would realistically League judged their responses as creepy or pushy or like they can kind of like get practice without resent creepy. Like the practice dating. I don't think so. How would it be creepy to download a simulation of the person that you're actually going to go on a date with it? Physically looks like them per caps is what if you fed that that system with everything you know about that. You can glean off social media in Croupier. I was getting sets borderline very creepy. But it's interesting like arguably the world look better place if you could do that because you know like the baby so a lot of like if you're a creepy guy a creepy girl. You're kind of fucked because people are we'll have no problem telling your creepy but like taking you under their wing to like trying to make you. Not Creepy is Emotional Labor that nobody wants to do share so like maybe in the simulator and maybe what they do simulators Kinda Reginald Barclay Star Trek. Like I dunno like there's some interesting simulation in theory questions about that. Yeah I think I think where you start to get into trouble is when you model it after very real simple that you know personally sure but it's also the that's also The most helpful type of simulation. If you're wanting to that one scenario yeah I think generally it's helpful to practice on. Someone agreed agreed completely. Anonymous agreed is wanted to to explore the the like I gained morality. You know if he if he kills these cops the actually kill them because everything gets reset like what are these people around him. How much of how much of what he does is reveals the core of him? How much of what he does is what anyone would do if if they were surrounded by like if you realize you're an assimilation and now like I'm not talking the gym I'm talking to some computer program going to be reset and I can't hurt his feelings? I get up right now for my desk. Punch him in the face he's GonNa Forget about the next morning like that seems like inherently warping behavior. Yeah I think this phase in particular is very revealing about who fill is as a person because look at the things he goes and does right. He has this massive pig out. gluttony Scene Leslie the most driving force before before sex pervert right and then he becomes a sex pervert expert. He starts at the donuts. That's where it starts. But but then he goes on to become an expert that that he clearly is right. That's his impulses to go. Do all these things so like I think Andie macdowell stuck in this situation would respond very differently. Yeah the thing she would go do our try white chocolate and fudge. I don't know I would love to see like at McDowell stuck in this loop Larry stuck in this loop could remake this movie as Andie macdowell getting stuck talking today. Man's too late because they're all like Chris Elliott you'd have to recast them wide. You get Jill from the leftovers whose her daughter. Okay and do groundhog groundhog day to the same day. Yes getting second day interesting. The same day it would be interesting to see what her character would navigate. That like also would be really because that's the question that I had is like Does does Rita Really Love Phil and does fill really love Rita I think so because it's a harder sell for me that Andie macdowell that the reader loves Phil because she's only had this one day to change her opinion and so I think the movie does something smart. They say that this is. She's new to this news team because if she had spent years living around yes there's no way he could change her mind about him in a single day you're right and it would feel artificial but not knowing this man. Maybe she could fall in love because she had a very strong initial bad. First impression you can think of like many times where I met a person thought there a complete asshole and it turns out they were just really socially awkward or just have bad day and they just couldn't it wasn't within their power to like a human being towards me and we end up being good friends or acquaintances or co coworker with these people so like it happens for sure like oh well how do you explain that. Eventually he's gotTa say well. I've been living a lifetime like its unpacking. His ten thousand years experience. It's going to be the trip for her right because he doesn't do that on that final day and does it throughout the course of the film but that last day where they actually actually get together and the day ends yeah. I don't think she knows anything about it. And this is what this is what I do. WanNa talk on this podcast not safer Swiss. Bold is that Fills relationship with Rita reminded me a lot of like what I've been reading about. Pera social relationships. So that's like One thing that people are familiar with the concept of celebrity stalkers. Right that these people they get fixated And they fall in love with the image that they see on on the screen and they get this false intimacy and then they show up naked that person's house professors. They love us and the people are trying to keep us apart and they don't understand now. Part of that is as the people who have like you know brain chemistry problems but like it's something I've been thinking about in terms of its content creators Internet talk about in terms of like their relationship with the fans. Like like you know we have a podcast and we are very authentic. You know We're playing a version of ourselves but it probably much more authentic than most Hollywood types of play to this point and people listen to this over source of months and years and they can get to know us in a very real way in a way that we don't know them and and I think that like bills relationship with Rita's para social. Because he knows everything about her and she stuck at the knowledge that she has of him which is almost almost nothing well. It's also evolving to think like. Yes his his side is certainly like an extreme amount of knowledge compared to hers but also also he changes so much as a person over the course of this and that is in large part I think shaped by Rita herself Because you know it's gross but a fair amount of this movie. He is him pursuing her and trying to like he's playing second row and the boss is Andie macdowell pants. He fails to get into them time and time again. He's you gotta spend a whole day getting back there just to give it another try. uh-huh uh-huh but he over the course of that like changes who he is right and he becomes more like Andie macdowell. He becomes more like Rita every single day and eventually he becomes someone she could fall in love with in a single day Yeah so I think she does know him because he's a lot like her at that point. Yeah but is you're right. It's like in that he say it's gross and that's where I'm trying to wrestle with. It's like is it gross. Like yes oh yes but also this is such an extreme example of something that like. I wonder like if you're if you if you talk to ten thousand year loop seriously the most virtuous person they have to have a day where they just kill everyone in the town. Yeah to like. There's like there's I feel like that like that's something you would eventually do. Just just out of boredom or insanity or the thing. I talked about the despair phase psychological torture from the universe. I mean he's being being tortured like not even suicide gets you out of it. No there's the rock bottom. There's like you know the the the suicide montage. He tries to kill himself in what twelve times that we see. Yeah yeah that's just A. That's just a representative sample of. How many how long did he stays locked in the cycle right? I think it's it's interesting and seeing select the full on crazy town. He gets to or he's got I'm thinking like what was he doing in saying to get a girl in single day to dress up as a French made and go to him with this movie thing where he's got. He's dressed up as Clint Eastwood. This is hilarious. Various to me because this is just commonplace. Now it's clearly portrayed in the movie as like they're the fucking Weirdos who were dressed up cost playing for the film opening. That just happens every single day at every theater around the country would not. Yeah the the French maid outfit. It'd be like well what's after do but if you're going to like you're going to do it's not a problem absolutely Yeah Groundhog Day. Didn't predict that for no future so we go we we go the heat in is. Do you WanNa talk about the hedonism is anymore. Yeah sure There's that cake scene. which is fantastic? Yeah And then He. He pursues Nancy Taylor and he uses his. You know this para social relationship In order to I can't the thing that strikes me about this scene where they're making out in the in his room I guess Is when he called her Rita twice and she still goes along with this. The person is Nancy. Yeah it's it's not like that's where the like the the praying seems like it's it's happening the he's like she's she's complicities. Willful willfully ignoring all the signs. She doesn't damage she's got some. She's damaged. He's bringing to the table that he's exploiting for sure who. Yeah it's pretty dark pretty dark So then he goes in after the hedonism. He kind of bored with that. And he fixated on the one the woman that he is unable to concord and read as just a pure conquest beginning at the beginning and he literally has to change everything about himself to get her to be interested in him on a surface level. But he hasn't ever changed the thing on the inside and that's That that leads to the next you know the her slapping him and then you have to slap Taj Great. When she slaps him and it just smoothly transitions into him opening the door for like slaps him toward the door to grab? Yes and there's there's there's a lot of really like I really love the face when he drinks sweet vermouth for the first time because who the hell drinks that I don't is that a real thing can. Can you drink sweet tooth on the rocks with you can physically do it. And what is the twist you could drink motor oil to twist like announce of whiskey like what the twist is. Hold the Vermouth an Bourbon. And they're like it's like an night shyamalan twists. That'd be great shot on cocktail. Yeah that is exactly the opposite of what's on the menu sweet vermouth on Iraq's with the twist and twist is it's actually Robin Cook and also I love the Bla- The bartender As far as I can tell he's the only black person in the entire movie but he steals the Sheen is like him like look like like rolling his eyes and like shaking his head at the antics of of Bill. Murray toasting to world peace and saying a prayer is is fucking wonderful but this slap Tajuddin in jump kicks the film into its next phase which is hitting rock bottom and deep depression and the thing I noticed last night is that got it begins this scene with him displaying his jeopardy mastery. And how like even that's becoming more perfect time because like now when I think of Jeopardy Yeah Pretty I think of Alex Trebek's and his likely doomed at this point struggle against cancer and the fact that he's going to be you know he's he's he's still on. I'm there every night doing this thing and ads like a little bit of You know pecans sadness and sorrow and Malays the scene that is perfect for kicking off the depression phase. I mean also. He's sitting with just the oldest people he can find your own. God's waiting town right. They're all just sitting there waiting today and this is where I think. The movies got the sharpest writing his his existential speeches where he's progressively giving more than forty range. I mean thinking about this like from his standpoint he because I was thinking about like if I got trapped in your average day. I'm in a pretty good position to explain that because like if I just didn't WanNa come into work is supposed to come in today. For example does their repeat by. Call you I've got almost unlimited slack. Points with the like you would never suspect I'd call in sick like maliciously right now. In fact I'm almost never like I drag myself here in. Death's door like if you you thought I called like Dude I can't show up for you'd be like Jesus Christ Erin's probably go into hospital later. Something like that or like. If Jack had a thing or dislike of reasons I would be like. Oh Yeah you need yes I got an owl I could. I could just bail on the day or I come in here and like come in and be like you know what. Fuck groundhog's Day. Let's just play video games. I could probably we could drill the people my life do almost anything but still ten thousand. Here's the Holy Shit. Well all you need is one good. Excuse right you just need to find one excuse to work. So there's always reset it. It's not like I eventually the thousandth time I call in sick. That will be but still like you don't need any variation it made me think of like still even even a day. That's like I prime that you could do almost anything. There's a limit to how far you can travel what you can do in a twenty four hour space. This he stuck in this location. Yes yes there's is nothing he can do. There's nothing he can do leave. Fortunate that there's a piano teacher in the town that there that he can learn ice sculpting before the Internet's a real thing being right in this small little town yeah But also maybe think of like what if he repeated that day on the island. I bet like any day you repeat that for for many times would eventually turn into hell on the island. Yeah because he's talking about why when he's talking with the drinks at the bar and he's like you know why couldn't I had one day where I met this. This model and I was on his desert island eight lobster and Oyster and then we made love like sea lions. That was a good day. Why but but repeat that day ten thousand times is is it still good? That's fair question. one that I think is built into the question of mortality so he spends it summertime time at rock-bottom where he just tries to figure out ways in this where he tries everything like he tries everything he can think of short of suicide to get out of this even down onto killing the groundhog. Now that that's what kicked off the suicide arc where he goes like my favorite speech. I always like it's going to be cold. It's going to be long uh-huh GonNa last the rest of your life. But now the second one he gives where he's like Welcome the PUCK. Tiny Bob La. There's no way this winter is ever going to aid. I don't see any way out. He's got to be stopped and I gotTA stands performance when he's like he's got to be stopped and then donning real like it's hat. This isn't a species rehearse. He's he's working out his own logic of his existence in real time and it's amazing. I think it's a really dark thing too because like yes. He's going to go on to commit suicide but I think this is the moment that he decides like talking about. The groundhog here is a thinly veiled and very thinly because their names are the same a rationale for his own suicide xactly and it worked so well to sort of kickoff like go from this extreme despair into the suicide mode because it almost gives him like well he didn't WanNa go. He didn't WanNa do this. But what other choice does he have right. And he's he's tried to kill the groundhog now. If the only way out is to kill himself you can almost understand that now. I don't know what to call the next phase because at the end of the montage Taj where I guess it's maybe acceptance or I I don't know maybe this is just a transition phase because he's just given up he doesn't care anymore he's over to hedonism he's over the tail chasing And at this point Rita unbidden starts to take a shine to him And they spin this like what. Perfect Day together where she says. Well maybe it's not a curse Phil and he does like Gosh here. Nice Lady and she thinks he disappears at midnight. Hi With dispels. That whole myth Her speech that he gives to her while she's half asleep kind of launches this next phase that which what what would you call this? The period of selflessly giving improvement phase attempted mastery. Maybe Where the defining moment this is him not being accepted that the pop- which is Pop is the old homeless man that we don't really know anything about other than he's in a pitiful condition and he's homeless bliss and he's the reason why for the first couple years. We did this around homeless charity. But he's obsessed with careening the perfect day like I think that this is astill maladaptive because just like he's obsessed with escaping the day with his own death. I think this chase for perfection is him still thinking. There's a way out like like if I can do everything right and I can. I can just give of myself endlessly. And maybe that's the way out but he realizes that too is is not like it's still too attached to some kind of outcome which leads to the final phase of integration. Where he's not trying too hard but because he's he's got unlimited practice at this day he just very good at it and the film a little? I think cheats lot. But by this time. Unless you've seen it twenty five five times you have so much goodwill towards the movie that you just allow it to because like how is the whole town in love with him with like at this point maybe twelve hours of interaction. mm-hmm head got knobbly fucking loves him The the the the the music teach the delusional piano teacher loves loves him because different women making her look good three different women get into a bidding war a because he has he wrote cars on all of them in this twelve hour space. I Ah the question is what what did he do with Nancy. That made her 'cause she clearly loves him Reggie's bidding in this. He fixed the teenagers marriage. The wrestling mainly understand that. I understand saving Brian. Doyle Murray's life Keeping it from Tokyo which I have to say like. It's a good thing that he did get stuck in this day because this was the day that the punks Tony Phil officiate died. Yeah the dark dark groundhog day right. They might have liked disbanded the whole thing together. They could've ahead KNOB gablers jokes. Then how you going to gobble KNOB next year. It's really sweet irony. It's got a really good early for cast a pall over celebrations. But I'm not sure what he did with Nancy the The waitress did he make her life measurably better. I know because the guy out when they said as parking anywhere POW she drops the dish for the. You're right though. They do have a lot of latitude here. And the stuff they do before this where he goes around and catches the kid in the tree. He Jacks to call him. He's doing all this every day. Does all this in a single day and everyone loves him for it. He's at work. He's practicing it like an obsessive. Speed runner is trying to get the fastest path through the game and he's he's approaching the day like that yeah Is that enlightenment. Is that what enlightenment looks like that. You devote your 'cause like is he going to do that. I think. It came with a a certain realization. That who had been in the past was a negative person Who Bring everyone down? Or as opposed to the person that Randy McDowell is and sees the joy and beauty and things. Yeah I think the the actions themselves are not what does it. It's his motivations The person he has has changed. And I think you're right you you nailed the head when you talked earlier about. It goes a long way to make you feel better about the Arita and Phil being because this is not a happily ever after this is not necessarily. This is the big. Not Saying it's not it's the beginning. This is the one this this is this. The once upon a time is now beginning for their relationship. And will you know then and I think that's Because yes she's got one one day she's got two days of knowledge one where where he was asshole and one where he's apparently the saint of this town and now since he's still a moral person it's probably finding the real fill that somewhere between that Satan and and Angel Angel once once the groundhog effect wears off. Yeah because it's easy to be generous with your time when you have infinite amount of it just like it's easy need to be generous with your donations if you have you know a ton of money. It's been you're scraping by to make ends meet. It's a lot harder buck into the Red Cross and when you just throw a handful of your spare change other thing they do. That helps a little bit aside from showing all the good deeds he does is they have him What is this the third year in a row that he's done this event and so the third year in a row that he's come to Punxsutawney so these people he does? He does have a relationship with this town. Prior to it. In so Andy McDowell when she sees that everyone loves him so much can sort of be fooled into thinking that he's always been this nice guy and he's always been beloved in this town. It's not it's not an honest perception but it is what she thinks. I wonder how you ever like how you ever make a real relationship work. Does it feel comes clean and tells her everything does it drew in it or like like a primary I think so. She's pretty intrigued. Intrigued by the concept over the course the film but just like the fact that like a person is known you for ten thousand years in those every intimate detail That and the circumstances under which some of those revelations came like I I don't know yeah I don't know how many details you WANNA reveal. That's what I'm saying You're advocating not coming clean or like a progressive re re re reveal. I mean yeah you so I I do think you need to. You need to reveal a lot about your time there but also I think the way you flavor. It is like you are the thing that made me change like because it's clear throughout the film like any McDowell Dow's driving force of his change. Yeah Rita is the thing that makes him a better person or of course of these years and it's also interesting that that's not a scary thing. That's a flattering thing and it's also interesting. Given Limited time and the the slap Taj is to explain to you that that that Rita never never ever accepts the old Phil as a lover no under any circumstances no matter how hard he tries no matter how hard outerly he he molds her himself the B. Her ideal man. It's the inside that she can sniff out and detected that presence rum. I think that's I don't know I this fucking movie. I am so totally in the tank for it. I think it has so many great lessons. And it's something that like as I age and get older like the things that teaches me and tells me are completely different because I've got different experiences and different ways of looking at it and The first few times I saw this movie I came away from thinking. Wouldn't it be cool to have a no consequence day. Yeah we're nothing. You did mattered. You could do anything that was my takeaway as like a thirteen to twenty year old because it seemed like bill. Murray makes us a good time time even when he's killing themselves. There's still a little something like like when he steps in front of the Boston. He's Kinda like the the twin his hands and he's always doing something it's it's the it's the fantasy it's the reason people play video games right. It's it's that fantasy of like what if I could be something else. What if I could do something different? What if you know what if the possibilities were endless Also there's also a little bit of hellraiser in that right like how many times I've been at the edge of a cliff and have that kind of like hall of the void where it's like. What would feel like to do that? And then it's like you go override full-body revulsion of God or sometimes I don't know how dark I WANNA get Yeah let's leave it at the Grand Canyon. You're at the top. Obviously feel the void staring at a table full of you. Don't do that or like what it would feel like the chop off your arms or to like cut your nipples offer something like like that like you sometimes think about that But like yeah There might there might be a whole garden of delights down the path of maiming. And killing yourself that you can't explore because like you can only do it once right right right like but like you could go full on Cedeno Bite if you're you can you can explore all the decadent pleasures of of self harm and killing consequence free environment. It's true I don't know if that would be my first intuition but definitely get there for show. But there's a bit of hellraiser Zor in that depth of despair type phase. He goes and ten thousand years at the same day. Yeah with with Ned fucking over existence. He would just kill himself the the same way every day he is variety there. There's some variety there I turn. I'd turn Ned Ryerson into a flesh flower at some point. A A blood angel human centipede the whole town. At some point it would be. It'd be real dark and Jim's version of dog day. Oh Yeah Oh yeah you for at least eighty five years. I bet there's a version where he finds that we're every gun in town is takes them all so there's nothing they can do and there's the the the blizzard he hunts men and women at sport that night. I'm sure the night of groundhogs day. He got fucking hunt a couple of times. It got it got it got some dangerous game here. Are there damn said. We're going to get that dark. Jim What the hell sorry gas. Pump the brakes and you just. That's throve angry right over the cliff. Cherry on the on the Pie. That's the thing right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. So the Cherry on the Pie. Cherry on the whipped cream on their That's that's all I got to say for now about about Groundhog Day I hope you've enjoyed this review please and then on what it is as a podcast. A meditation If you've enjoyed it I hope you're excited for this. Weekend's Groundhog Day celebration which for us starts on noon on Friday. This Friday January thirty first. It'll in the following noon on February. 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16: "Club Paradise" w/ Mike Demerath

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16: "Club Paradise" w/ Mike Demerath

"Food and hello everyone. Welcome to hitman ended. I mean on today's show. We're going back to the eighties with a little. Bit of reggae and robin williams and eugene levy and a bunch of other people can get into that and on today's show. we have like s. Mike are you there. I'm here great to be here. Thank you for joining me. And we are watching well. We watched during this time when everybody wants to escape club paradise. The movie where was intentionally. I think meant for bill. Murray if you as you did you notice that it was kind of had a bill. Murray vibe to it but robin williams took over due to scheduling things with bill. Murray and it was. I mean it turned out i mean. I remember seeing this when i was younger. I asked adam my brother about it. Tonight i was like do you ever watch. And he's like no. And i was just like me because i. It's it's a weird like memory i had from its stepdad. And i'm not getting into too much of that. I remember watching like saturday like probably mid afternoon. There's nothing to do. I probably should have been outside. But i i wasn't and i was watching club paradise. And it's a herald ramos. Well hell hell dame's movie who killin. And and all that but He said he initially had bill. Murray and the spot or robin williams and robin williams plays a chicago fireman decides to retire after one. Horrible day of being a firefighter. He yeah he literally got blown out the window and gray paint covering bricks and he's got one one time up that he's okay and he's like oh i quit and then it goes into the whole fact of going into he. Yeah he's a shows. Bad saint saint nicholas or saint nichols. Nick saint nicholas. Yeah which is a fictional island but it was set in jamaica. yeah Stars robin williams has got eugene levy. He's got rick moranis. Got peter o'toole got twiggy. It's get jimmy cliff's yeah jimmy cliff. I know i'm probably missing this bunch of setv actors and actors on. It is a weirdo. Yeah brian doyle murray. He played his regular role of these snooty. Snooty gas and yeah it's It's definitely a colt movie of its doesn't have. I noticed that it didn't have the best rotten tomato rating and it was like. Yeah it was probably about fifty seven. I think well what i have here. So tomato meter eleven percent audience score thirty five. So we've got absolutely schaub. So i think it costs bay only made about twelve million and it costs fifteen million to make sure that lost money and yeah. It wasn't wasn't herald. Ray mrs beth's like i mean i. His his movies are generally slapstick and i mean recipes. He's no longer with us. He's yeah e. he was funny character. You always know if you don't if you've seen ghost buzzers you know who a herald ramos is gone. And he's always been good with those roles and so we on this show. We have a little thing called tagline showdown and i make every guest do it. Even if they don't want to some guests some guests get it right. Some guests have to some guys actually follow up some. Don't and but you're mainly supposed to make a tagline for this movie so let's try to sell this movie unlike the way well unlike the way that the theaters actually tried to sell this movie. So i guess i will take the first one and here. It is cla paradise. Were you might not even make it to the runway. If it's just you gotta watch because it's it's pretty slapstick you. The loot landing for the first guest wasn't it wasn't the prettiest but you have your next one. Like yes how i when i. Yeah in terms of tagline. Kind of i think here What kind of coming in that You know i think just plug here. My two favorite berry berry patient with at the beach movie with various berry. And i think just when you have arguably i think the two best characters in the movie and they both have the same name They're both canadian. And they both pretty epic nicolas loves meats and yet to smoke mench. What the yeah. The movie Spoiler alert a big bag drops down and it's too much and literally made. Would you agree the big bag of march. They do their recon to one. They were probably. They probably could actually found reeler or stuff in jamaica but could they didn't do too well like the prop department kind of failed on that one says like so you could afford something little bit better. It kind of looked like grass clippings but look on and was there their free lunch looking for this big old bag that that usually lubbock character eventually gets at the end the whole time just to impress girls and it's doesn't turn out so well for them and it's they. I would have to agree that. Barry barry are there even funding than the lead actor and supporting lead. I think yeah. I agree with you. Berry berry should have had their own movie. And it's almost like you could add a spin off. I mean i can i can. I share one of my favorite quote for. I hope you have the same that i have. Is it from berry berry talking. Larry i got one from from very one. You want to go as you have the same one as me. I'll deal is through driving up in the jungle with a guy own even now. Who's wearing sunglasses. The night we should anamar wallets split around throats. Got another one or are you there. They were stranded and they get to the island and then going through the island and they get to the dive and then one of the model more model type guys dives in and he turns to one and he says i could have done that that same dive. If i didn't have diarrhea. And actually i roll. Stay so story. This movie for me is like i was probably twelve or thirteen and our younger ten nine. Tenths our babysitter was like talking about it. Not like club. And i was probably more like eight or nine And that's how. I ended up watching it because he was such a big fan. The one line. That's actually stopped me the now even just burying in that my whole life. You look at these guys couple. Aqua velvets probably a couple of sh- gay or something and they start making out with the two girls named for. I still use that term. Aqua velvets luckily guys like through the years. I saw that again. Oh my god. I knew this line the whole time if you're a certain age you don't know what aqua velvet is exactly ninety. That was pretty much played out rank and this is eighty six visit. Yeah they're thick and they also shares the same year as interesting Dealers day off which is probably. I don't know if you're running out on this show but yeah it'll probably eventually come but yeah and actually what i found out the rick moranis keep thursdays movie. Big little shop of horrors with nine hundred eighty six as well and interesting. I found that they are actually rebooting little shop before's and it's in the process of some seeing you know rick moranis. What's he up to these days. Yeah well number. One they're doing a reboot Little shop of horrors but also tragically. He was like randomly attacked. Walking through a running through manhattan. That's how rick moranis came up in the news. So i assume it okay. I hope he's okay. 'cause i mean i i found out about rick moranis from honey. I shrunk kids. Because i saw that movie theater and i remember seeing that movie theater and because i was getting babysat we went to all. Honey i shrunk the kids and it was always been stuck in my mind. And that i was like i don't know that's like one of the first movies i remember and out. That's that's a favorite of mine and you've seen see tv. He does the gosh. I'm i'm gonna blank now. The two brothers change. That's strange strange. Yeah but i'll tamar forget. The brothers names but i think we're we're kind of going off track because we're just talking about rick rance movies now will actually let me correct myself honey i. It tani shrunk the kids route that. That's what's actually. He's working on a little chapel horse. So it's actually honey. I shrunk the kids. He's working on a reboot of that right now. I think. I said i was getting moving next up. But yeah we on honey. I shrunk the grandkids redeem. It makes sense like honey. I shrunk kids. I mean you did you did you did you. Did your tagline right. My own to my second one i did. I got it there in berry. Not let us down a long path. Just excellence of characterization of the movie but yeah no i think. I think you're out club paradise. S lcd snl. Go on vacation. Well i i don't know yeah. Then second city was one of mine. Too or herald name is reunited with co stars like we was one levy verandas and then doyle murray Who and the other one. I had with another. It's not just another eighty each movie but it kind of is you got some randall. I know you did weekend. Bernie's as well but i read something that the ramos said he was like you know. There were four caribbean movie this year. The key club paradise has and three others were all nineteen eighty. Six nine of them did. Wow yeah so they. All were basically slaps in the theater. Any movie happened in the eighty s at either happened on the beach or at a ski resort if it seems like the ski resort or my parents house because they're away from the weekend so stop partying. It seems like and i mean. That's what i gathered over the years through bill. I'm guessing it's close. But i guess my other one is club paradise where bill murray wasn't but his brother who is more of a dick one. Yeah Yeah i think i think in other words minded club. Paradise were basically jimmy classes playing the whole music. I'm sorry the whole movie facing schist it and you know if you look at the final track. It's all his songs. Jimmy cliff all and actually click connection. We're back you know my family. And i were trying to China number her but it was back. I think guys and fifteen. We saw them. You know we live in austin south by south west. We saw a free show jimmy cliff. Play i don't know what age he is. He might be close at sixty. He is still relevant and he was really good. I think you sent me a photo and you might have like. It might have been like no like you got at the concert. Daytime show and obviously it. I wanna stay. Yeah kevin some other people to send me a photo. I think i remember that. And like i remember. I mean you send me a lot of photos of. I once lived though and i wish i could be back there because i do love the city and maybe if this picks up i can i can one day move down there but until then i will stay in hometown of the midwest and live cheaply and have a roof over my head with my son so but anyways maybe one day i'll get back and let's do you want to get into some more facts. I think knows. yeah there. There was a lot of interesting. You know i. I think i did some digging. But you know i gotta stay overall this movie you know. I had been at a decade national. I i was like did i. Did you ever watch close. She goes now but she just. She was watching last night and she just wanted to comment on various glasses. Like i didn't grant. Maybe the red levees but i mean know those now. I mean at least a little small and i would think yeah. Well and you know it's funny with twiggy Almost like i was like twinkies. I like a regular store. Like twitty's this british model who was You know robin williams williams's love interest. There's anything with robin williams. I thought it was just. It was just full of one liners like that. That's robin williams kind of him. It's just one after another but interesting facts So out of caesar the prime minister guy. Yeah i've seen nicholas. He died four months before the movie actually opened so he didn't actually get to see the the release the who's the bad guy right. He was the prime minister. The guy the mustache he kind of walked rat with with always the the troops and Yeah he was definitely getting a plot way. The death beltway last a little could be a good desire but the interesting thing to the guy who but the pilot I was like okay. Where's this from beginning. Happy gilmore like the guy who was like the fan of the big fan shooter mcgavin. Just the guy's like oh maybe after we can grab some food. Basically the joe's airlines charter. They come. Did you notice that the plane was like kind of like a spoof. Off the harder they come. Jimmy cliff I did find out the movie wins inspired by basically a disaster disastrous club. Med vacation by two of the writers though they were going to call it clubs sandwich And and could be a tagline club paradise or sandwich auto after the movie was like sandwich does sound a little bit better so much more fitting random they film crew instead of because they were cheaper to hire story. Thank you gave. it's probably good. They did that because they ended up in debt. Thousand dollars after you know what they spend and what they made so no one. Oh i got a few but It one award. Worst supporting actor for peter tool peter. O'toole one arrays razzie or so. We didn't really get too much notoriety. I would say that's not the best The fixing awful. It wasn't all it wasn't bad but it wasn't. It wasn't good. Yeah like a and is just as your typical eighties slapstick comedy. But it's i think was lacking bill. Murray i i think in this four bill murray it was. It wasn't like for robin williams to be pulling. The one liners bill. Murray should've played like it of probably that. Probably kinda at lacked. But like i mean i yes i do. Love bill murray. Who does i mean. i know. There's some people that may there isn't like. I'm trying to figure out like who hates bill. Murray if you please send me a message. I would like to know why but robin williams. I would say like you know. Eighty also may rest in peace by the way you're not going to like ham tool just you know ramos like a lot of these guys are gone but you know i think it was. Just it was a classic robin williams roll. It was good it just like i mean he was probably could've been a cocaine aids going just constantly on You know but he was always stand up included. Yeah yeah Which is great because if you seen any of his standup it's definitely nothing like his comedy. His movies like it's definitely a little different. And if you want to know the different from like his normal stuff like i was just watching least one of his stand up stand up already went over the best line by line or berries best line. Yeah it's they were. Now we're going back to barium barry because it's this movie there's all i think i mean if you're gonna if there's a reason to watch this movie and by the way eugene levy is probably the most relevant of anybody in this movie house which is arguably one of having seen shits creek eugene levy ak johnny rose and his son daniel. Levy extremely town did Have you seen shits creek man. I hope so. Well i saw a little bit. When i was down there with you guys and then i didn't finish it. I know i should. You need to as everybody's like it's wonderful should finish it and i probably will at some point. I'm i'm stuck constantly watching movies. Because i do this. Weekly so Yeah so. I'm like i'm on my own little schedule. Maybe i'll watch it like on break there. There might be a christmas christmas. I'm gonna do die hard. I'm trying to do get somebody for gremlins national lampoon's christmas vacation well actually so nah national lampoon's christmas cbs. That doyle murray. He's the astle bar boss of parker's literally he's he's just typecast asshole. I mean who wouldn't wanna have jelly on and we can get into the pot if if you feel no wonder why chicago fireman is going to the bahamas to retire. He's he's basically going to well. He ends up. Becoming co owner of jimmy cliff's old ernest. I'm james ernest. His club or his hotel slash club and off oshkosh. What's his name. Look caesar's character pretty much. Is there to collect back taxes so they decided to revamp the hotel and try to bring in more tourists to actually get more money to pay all the taxes they gotta they gotta pay back all the taxes within the next forty five minutes of the movie. That's basically the way movies. Go and there's there's a lot of good like the the humor between the berry berry and then the couple or doctor that yeah you mean a doctor and the The the their their marriage and she's looking for excitement. And with like with how much and to aqua pelvis you know as it comes back but yeah. That was great. I mean i thought those characters are great. But then you have you know the the the athol murray not bill. So brother and you have. You know. i'll see you have this coalition and then you have them trying Basically they have these plans for the island and now they're trying to another hotel in the land where club paradises stretch the island back. So they're like why not advertise the beach. Then they do a quick little montage of the photo shoot for. The ads takes ash everybody new york. It looks like new york mainly they see all the new lebaron. Is they make it. They're just barely goes i to say what is it. What was his name clarity. Yeah the the guy who featured another more than like ninety be like this is like got. His career started with the pilot on freaks and geeks could all which is a great you down if you haven't lost all please watch because it's it's one of my favorites and it only made it to like not even three seasons. I mean didn't even make dinner get cancelled after one. I mean to at least two. Didn't i think so. I don't know. I would wanna biggest travesty ever but i would agree when i'm lights favorite. Show i mean. I think that basically and seth rogan james which actually herald ramos did knocked up to the just kept going making went from bad use. The data knocked up. He was just like i win. I remember the scene because he was just like what do i do. Dad is like get a job. Yeah so definitely you see the connections and so basically trying to revamp this hotel to make a better to get this money. And if there's there's just a lot of great things there's i mean it's definitely slapstick because you see the couple. Obviously the funniest one of the couple was alive because she did a lot of the actual physical comedy and like whenever she was yelling for her husband. I always thought that was the funniest part of it. Because just the way she says it god has like i can't even our where she's taking a shower and like can lord against the wall and her husband passed out with a beer in his hand. Yeah then there's an part. She falls into the trees. And then yeah it's good and there's definitely moments like surprising. This is where. I don't think it hit very well for Robin williams normally the funny one in this and he's he's just happens to not be more focused. Seems like mainly on the taking those drinks. This is mainly focused on the It seems like it's yeah mainly focused. I like the comedy. That's mainly focused on like the not the the be listers of the movie as opposed to the lead at the time. So you see what i'm saying. Like more of the comedy is focused on the well. The supporting cast. Yeah and i. That's the way it can work on shows and sometimes it's like the main character is good but sometimes i mean not to say the club paradise is like this is going to be in a film class like some example but i think it goes to show sometimes that sometimes the it. There's there's some of the some of the. Ip's you know that that help. Keep a movie float you know. Yeah so we get into okay. Gosh there basically everybody's now Then they're actually afraid that seems like they're having fun and we get into basically like when does like the climax. What would you think the climax would hit mainly just kind of hard to pinpoint it. Just kinda like melted. It's way into the movie like it doesn't really like it just happened. It's like when you know the there. It's like it kind of starts the onset of like well. We're gonna you know you have you're going to. We're going to buy you out like you're not gonna like no we're not and it's like the next offer from at all. Caesar may another one copernicus rest in peace but like yeah it's like it's like and then it's you know the soldiers common but you know during the climax one of the best parts is pouring barry one comes out with his bag mulch aka cannabis and started sprinting. Because he you know. There's soldiers taking i mean and the The climax kinda ends up like a venue good enough for you. I mean i feel like a lot of. Yeah the the last half hour at it you know. It was a good enough for me. That the question you ask here You know lacking lots there. Probably but i mean i don't using this as what you said. Twelve was probably amazing. Yeah maybe maybe younger. I mean tanner twelve. I feel like yeah. I mean it's been a good at least ten years since i've seen that maybe fifteen or twenty. I don't know yeah so it's like like the age when you when you initially see this as a at a younger age which we both did like i mean. I've asked people that i work with like. Hey what do you guys ever seen club paradise and like with a fairly younger of guys compared to like my age. Because like i'm thirty nine. I think most the most of the guys i work with are twenty five twenty six so it's just like i'm a little bit older. Labor zinc lebaron. Hasn't really know is like. I'm just like i have a movie. I'm doing so and it's definitely out. I feel like i. It's it's not a remember. Eighties movie. Like i mean it's it's i don't think it'd be on ways radar unless you put it out there. You know what i'm saying. Yeah it's like you had to see it back then. It's not a movie you know. It's like googling on that like some stuff comes up but Yeah i mean. It's how i got there but i will say watching it again. I think the timing of this week in general and what's going on the nice escape was a nice like kind of you know taking or sunday baseball last night. And actually you know spotify. The club paradise sound. I the the music itself i think with the. I don't know if i like them like the jimmy cliff quality reggae artists. And it's basically him plan and also that white that day character with like there was third world people. She's hammered or the limbo contest she. She's not it's not quite thurs. Watch the movie barium buried but she definitely helps you know with that. We are losing to that does. Supporting cast does setv. If i remember they're just taking that calf it's like ramos just basically took them all like let's go. Let's go film and saint nicholas aka similar in jamaica I mean on the west. Why not i mean like a vacation and working and yeah like it's definitely i would i would rate it. It's a good if you like. Cheesy eighty s comedy slapstick. Like is definitely a good watch. It's not like you'd be like okay. I'm going to buy like to watch it. But i mean i did like on amazon. A buck ninety nine. Yeah i liked that. I liked that. Because i was listening to weekend at bernie's and like twelve to fifteen dollars. I luckily found it right before the day before. I did my actual viewing and i found it for three ninety nine. I'm going to say like. I actually no wait. I think i did have to by then ended up being three ninety nine to right. Yeah but not i. I remember hearing fifteen or sixteen. I was like that like when you pay for some lawn or something on disney. You know this summer Interesting though with the you know the relevance in eugene levy and since pecans another connection lot. But i guess about half ago The moon sour festival of the comedy festival. We had never been to austin came here and the whole shits creek cast came The theater downtown. And i gotta say you gene. Iv is now seventy. yeah he is. He's pretty. I mean he's he's seems like an amazing person. I mean great act but also in that movie. Incredibly harry wishes shirt off and mike one of the two. He got to like you know this this new sunday. Thanks spreading like wildfire. Robin williams is trying to put it out. Okay let's go to this decree each one of us. Eugene levy talking to these girls naked girls is like almost yacking a that guy. I wonder if that was. I think it's all natural. I don't think they have to add anything just about his hairy brillo pad and yeah it's i mean it was him and Gosh rick moranis. Yeah they're both like winter like he was another. That was that was one kinda funny at i. I just kept going when they were reunited. And rig marina with like the lily pad on its head and you know he's he washed up on shore eugene levy with his bag of mulch ronnie's while done raymond you know ghostbusters. Animal house you know. Put his put in the vision. He knew what he was doing with barren barren movie. Yeah it was good food still up to say that they were like the to that one that show. So here's a little part. We have a got a little bit of a pop quiz for you. Did you not know about this. I i at the pop quiz for a pop quiz and we who did herro ramos. Replace as a director a writing be john landis or see steven spielberg while This is not a skill production. I would have to go. Land is the second one. Yeah i'd go land that is correct. Would those processes the nation that good multiple choice strategy. Would this be herald ramos. His last director oral feature true b. false. Do you know which movie little bonus man What hit last director royal Pulmonary because he did. I was looking at him. He went pretty laid now. I don't know it'd be groundhog day. Nineteen ninety-three starring bill. Okay bill murray. He wanted bill. Murray is this dr. He got us later. Yes sir robin williams and groundhog day to work out. So well up. That will probably would have been pretty bad. I think nine thousand nine hundred and he doing like jack or something like that like actually robbing bloom says he has the worth of the snow pea in this film. What other robin williams film say this in a good morning. Vietnam be the best of times. See mrs doubtfire or d. toys. See maybe i'm gonna come doubtfire. Yes it might have been said about pierce brosnan's character of all. He did not like him. Obviously if you know mrs doubtfire ms doubtfire and you know why not not very well but i could tell it was probably not good morning vietnam but that was that might have been wrongly star performance. Not one but We pause for a little break and we'll be back to finish the show and we're gonna take a little break and we'll be back If you haven't heard about anchor it's easiest way to make podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record net. Your podcasts right from your phone or computer. Anchor will distributor podcasts for you so can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. In many more you make money from your podcasts. With no minimum listenership everything. You need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor to anchor dot. Fm to get started And we are back and thank you for sticking around and we are to the. I mean who wouldn't want to escape during a time like this. I mean those perfect paradise aka called sandwich. Very barry decay hill. Murray never made it to. But i'm sure he originally did. We might have been lane on hammocks somewhere. He's probably laying in a hammock somewhere now. I i if i was him. Yeah but if you can escape you can escape with club. Paradise only on amazon prime for dollar ninety nine or unless you got an old vhs tape event from back in the day you wanna keep that if you actually have. These are good for you man. That might actually like it's it might chew up the tape but if it still works. It's a yes you can escape for one ninety nine listening to that tape record not not necessarily but if you're listening i hope after hearing us talk about this year gonna see it go down to the podge out and get it for twenty five cents and put it into the are prepared is because we're about the down to that so nitty gritty of the end. But i mean it's i mean it's almost the civil war which out is other thing. It's a little too close for comfort. And it's a civil war between country and basically citizens or know it's well. Yeah 'cause adolf adolph but you know caesar on the beach talking about the gripping ending. Yeah the most beautiful beach. We're all trying to fight over there. Like why not have civil war on it. And like i swear this line i mean i don't know line personally but you can tell that i i'm going back to it. You can still constantly tell that. This movie was intended for bill. Murray because like when robin williams gets up and says his little speech. You're like bill. Murray all over it i mean. Do you not see that. Like i mean if you go back in your head you start seeing like the miners. I'm still convinced i bill. Murray's probably should have done this. Obviously i'm i think he was the first choice. But i don't know. I think it's just robin williams that role that guy you know when i was eight or nine and and seeing just i just i don't know i just. He stood guy. Well he stood up on like you stood up on the best in dead poets society in group bubble bubble. Wow is a free. Tokyo jeff any water. You can't have. Yeah there you go straight from mexican mineral water miracle waters. I drink s champion chico. If you hear me. I love topa chico. And if you want to send the any. I to- chico dates joe rogan around doing this on you to you know and doing this and got me about that for the car or maybe even like my studio as well so it's kind of i'd had to like yeah spice it up. Maybe down the line want something to think about. I mean not that we're i'm added. You know anything that's out of this world you know but it's more just i think the anyway we we can get back to get back. I well i wanna share. Yeah that final being. You know it totally eighties you know. And the people that rise up and kind of same save the club in the investors. Go away on the you know but it's the best to is that another one of side characters not the berries but you know the the woman we've been talking about with her husband and they finally in the thrill the moments they're making out and mike that physical comedy like you know duck and behind the boat. Yeah making out. They come back up and You know it's kind of brings. The brings the movie's full circle and then the reggae music. Jimmy cliff song kicks. And then there's a whole montage of the cast laughing as their named roll up as apart he already had the girl but robin williams ex his final little this little one lider as usual and you know gives her big old kiss and yeah like you said jimmy cliff music roll out and they basically it's the cast into like exit And it's like you know. That's that is basically paradise if yeah roger ebert breaks it down and i wrote down his review but he basically says this kinda sums at a p says the movie lives so firmly in the moment that it never developed any energy for story not a whole lot to care about the screenplay it's broken down into by one of the big words used and slap the stick or screenplay broken down into the characters can materialize do their thing in evaporate. But i kind of a little bit with you. I don't think the some of the cy. I think some of the characters do evaporate like peter o'toole robin williams percents but i think berry berry and the other ones do not but I do think thing. I wanted to bring up again. Comes back to banbury but i love how they call each other like. Oh here's my uncle. Bear like this. Is my father like that in anything to call like your your wing man your father or your uncle like i thought that was that was hilarious. I thought it was weird but it was funny. It's like the kind of belva schmos terms that are just not used anymore. You know i. Yeah she find it weird the father. Here's my berry. You know this theory that theory but one of eighty buddies. Did you guys ever like when you were younger. Lads is you ever call your your your best friend. Your father or your best friend will get the girl in the bar. Let me let me. If there's anybody above the age of i guess you know what forty and by my aunt's causes causes wife. His mom calls her mom. So i guess would be. You know we're in two thousand twenty year And i don't know that's that's a whole nother wormhole alarming. Alarming doesn't like a red flag. It seems like right. Yeah thank but anyway. So it's very you know Yeah anyway i. It varies this movie in. You're gonna go for the barry called club. Bury it that they probably would have been better if it was called. Claw berry starring eugene levy and his his partner. Rick moranis uncle. I think the smoke meets smoke. Needs win when the movie robin williams punch lines or get your smoke expand there ago. Sexual innuendo by another robin williams lined or just hit him is is not speaking of all the way joe. Last time i smoke that they found me on top of the sears tower trying to build the net by guy with the long hair they have the putting the hat means out smoking a joint while they're you know while he's trying to get them to come back in and keep it all of his hair underneath a really long in the one. The one cook is like acceptable. And it passed the doj nikola. Yes i could. i mean. wouldn't you like to nicholas right now. I'm gonna nicholas. I'm we want to escape and go to. I mean i've never seen the ocean. But i haven't seen the ocean water that i've seen galveston which doesn't really great. I'm so sorry now. I mean it's speaking of you know i'm in austin. I've made a few references. But i gotta say the first time. We saw the texas coast. It was kind of gray. Then you look further out this blue. it's it is. It's kind of like a warmer jersey. A warmer mommy river. I mean. I mean i'm referring to the pier and galveston so it's kind of like. Yeah that's different is the heat. I'm like this is probably what jersey's like minus the heat and or like coaster. It's i deserve club. Paradise and what did they get it and you should too and definitely next year or maybe in a year we can all go back to you on a twenty one. do you wanna. we're gonna get twenty twenty one. There's some decent traveling and not be scared and overlay. We can turn things around because then you need to be turned around. Because who doesn't want to go to club paradise and get club paradise but i'm rambling out. Oh do you have anything you'd like to promote share or i mean we can't really say the normal of before this because right now oh i would say normally prior episodes go out and vote but please remain wearing your mask. At least yeah well. That's that's the given. Yeah i think you know. I'm not a social influence or anything of type. So but i do want to promote so. Nah you know your sister My my wife works for a great organization called communities in schools. Though if you're still listening at this point you know the needs of of their nationwide organization but you know how it works You know it's amazing. Group that helps at risk youth and the the main goal is to help kids graduate. 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How Many Saturday Night Live Cast part 1

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How Many Saturday Night Live Cast part 1

"How many how many? How many? How many? One two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, hundred. Who? Would I get up to? Hello everyone, and welcome to a new episode of how many the only podcast on the Internet that counts. I am one of your host Jesse Jackson joining me today. Is Go ahead around the horn guys. Junior. Ball. Gary has a topic for this time. So Gary Talk, to what are we talking about tonight okay. So we've talked we've talked a lot about this to over the last couple of days of how exactly to view what it is that we're about to look at it. So what I have is I have a list of of of all of the people that have been the actors, the players on Saturday night live. took. Gary Grant, and the question is how many of these people were hits on both Saturday night live and then outside of Saturday night live there's a lot of people that were really good. They were big players on Saturday night live but they're film crews flopped. There've been a couple that were big time film actors that that were on us in l. even if it was just briefly and were very bad. So we're looking for the number of them that were both Nice. Now, do we have a total number of members? Discuss Okay so the sheet I've got. I went through it. It's a hundred and fifty seven. I'll tell you that there are three more including Catherine O'Hara that were hired in never actually appeared. We're not gonNA talk about them obviously, but our because they wouldn't count but So there's one hundred, fifty seven to go through. I think our saving grace is that there's quite a few where everybody honors GonNa go who and we'll just move on I. Think. So I just just a point of clarification does it have to be t be in movies so like For example, if somebody was on Saturday night live and then ended up doing well on a different TV show 'cause there's one in particular thinking about it that or is it has to be TV. Movie I, and this you know the group can correct this. If they think I'm wrong. The way I was looking at it is they were star on S. and L. and they were star outside of SNL so wouldn't matter movies TV became an opera singer I don't care whatever. So like I would bake the argument Phil Hartmann was successful uncertain it live and then with radio and TV Simpson's. That, look at. That would be one that would count because and but it wasn't movies and like Robert Downey junior was not necessarily a great cast member uncertainty live but certainly I'll start I am going to say just fifty I'm going to go thirty seven I'll go forty two I. Think you guys are over selling a little bit I'm GonNa go twenty five did you have a guest? You would have started looking at it. Carl, suggest I'll tell you this. I didn't even look at the list but I've seen enough to know that. I can't do a legit guess. I'm going to say that there were people on here that I'd forgotten about. On US L. and I'm going to say that some of the bigger numbers are probably close. If. I were guessing I probably would have guessed in the mid thirty s to the early forties. Okay. Just right around where Scott and Bob Were I. don't know if I would have gotten to fifty like you did it. That's one in three and I. think that's probably aggressive and probably is all right. Very good starting off with Fred Arnesen I think everybody knows who? Is from SNL for sure he's definitely been on some other stuff I'm on leave you guys to talk about whether or not. I was GONNA. Say Portland area. I think that. I think that counts he didn't really have a movie like a really big movie career, but Orlando. He's a great. He's a great bit character. Lag Is Italian character on Euro. Massive shank laugh and he's in the movie for ten minutes if I remember in Portland Did the battle Sark Lactic Binge episode embattled loan, he gets my vote for that. He's Yeah I've I knew immediately who he was and I could Dane Portland yet that gives it a yes for me. I give him yesterday pretty much everything I've seen him in. You know outside of SNL I thought he was really really good I don't think he is like the big leading character kind of guy. He's somebody that can definitely fill out you know a show. Agreed. All right. So we're carrying Fred arms next up think this is going to be around the horn nice and Dan ackroyd. Yes. FIRST BALLOT ALL FAME All right. This one might. Get a little bit more difficult Peter. His brother was on SNL. Really I would. Yeah I would say, no, I. Don't even know never heard of him. I mean wouldn't have even counted even Big Star on SNL. One really was cooper. Aykroyd. Was the one if only he had not gotten injured K. mixed up is more winner banks now familiar. Not Nothing all right Vanessa Bayer. A very funny. Yes very funny on the show. I think. She hasn't done enough outside of us. Now, this one's one that you guys might be able to debate a little bit Jim Belushi. Yeah. So I was wondering if he was gonNA come up because I've. There's been some movies that I really liked. Jim Belushi MR destiny was a good one. Mr Destiny was really good but I think he's in the shadow of his brother. So that's a little tougher. Committed L.. Movies I like him I would I would give him a yeah because I think he's a solid guy. Yeah I don't know if he was good in certain live but I certainly think he had a decent career I would say, yes, he had his own Sitcom. It lasted a long time whether it was good or not. And I I can't I'm not gonNA argue the outside of SNL at all because I think he's done at a fine career. It's the it's that he was only on SNL for two seasons and it remember on and his and his brother his brother died you know right before he joined her right way. Anyway, so is eighty three to eighty five when he was on. So I think that's a good debate gary that I'm thinking of his post S. L. O. Career. Yeah. Giving him in there. But if I can't think of one character he played or one skiff he's in his Serta live. Is that necessarily? Should he count I think that's why we would exclude him because. Has To be both. A run into some other people on this list that are giant stars that were nothing on us and l., and according to what is was an earlier parameter. Wise. They would. They would read good point. That's an interesting idea. Those that you know snl probably gave him the springboard you know they went on their did get a whole lot but got their face off there. Then when they got off of US and they'll they were successful was brother probably gave him the springboard well, yeah he did I mean that's for sure. He was in a he was in a lawyer show to that was set in Vegas. That only lasted one season I remember really liking him in that. More dramatic role yeah. Good stuff. The my niece was on that show. So obviously, the next one is going to be John. Belushi and. A Lotta Miles training for that day, and I don't a lot of donuts. Tastes good and they've got the sugar I need to get me going in the morning. That's why. Don't have been my training table since I was a kid. Yes assuming that we have. I mean short two, two shorter career absolutely. But yeah, I mean absolutely somebody amazing. Yeah. It's funny. He was only on US and how for years right it's not hard to think of a bit that he was in Beck Bennett not familiar on the current creek. House is any and he's been there since two thousand thirteen. So solid I think from an SNL perspective but no I do they are so. Are I think this one's going to be a good one to debate. At falls along the lines of what junior was asking earlier. So Jim Breuer go boy a lot of funny characters snl including goat boy has done a lot of movies although half-baked was very good. I was GONNA say that's the only thing I remember him. Very very successful as a standup comic in his movies. A good support guy he really is I mean he plays his role I think very well, you know trying to think of a single movie that he was in or something else I know I've seen him and I enjoyed it. But Yeah I, I said as a as as in half baked. He was a major character in that at least as a cult classic is is huge I haven't seen that in for ever and he was a huge part of it. I'm a big fan of that He's been in a bunch of other movies and TV shows he. Yeah, he does some voice work he's been on family. Guy. Zookeeper, he was one of the animals. Up Thought was going to be a game changer. Flayed Father Philip on Kevin can wait he's actually got a pretty decent imdb page, but there's nothing that stands out I'm GonNa Vote No. Thumbs down we got to knows close. It's tough I mean he was somewhat successful on SNL and he's had some success office anelle in movies, but he's not was huge on either say, no. Okay I was honestly I. Really wish somebody would have done. No and the goat voice so now. Need a little point maybe. I can't do it but. That's Okay, next, Hall Britain. Up Hall in a you know that's Bob Newhart nephew Paul was on there for two years and I don't know Ius now areas either now I'm GonNa. Okay. So he's a No this one I definitely recognize probably because. She was on there when I was in high school a Whitney. Brown I remember her but I don't remember anything outside of that. And and all I I. I don't know what else he did. But I want I may with Brown. One day I hope to be the Whitney. Brown. Is a joke that I remember always I would say, no, the boy he is a good stand up comedian. You know we talked a little bit about that earlier right one of you as. Anything outside of their though a little bit but they were. Mainly a writer when he was on there, he would come on and do. Like a little segment on weekend update periodically. But that's about it. He was never really on any of the sketches or anything and see and I was wondering about did we update right years? Who Was it the he wasn't the anchor, but he would come on and do like a kind of like Colin Quinn would like is he was on he was like an editorial but. Kinda. Just do like a like a Bob log on a thing down. So here's a little thing. He has been a writer for the daily show for three hundred and eighty six episodes you know from ninety six to ninety eight. So he has a very long writing career looks like he's been very successful. Writer but I dot as an actor I don't. I'll tell you that what I'm looking at here because I agree with you I don't think he'd counts. Probably. For nothing else is because he was a big on snl frank, you definitely qualifies a both but the list I'm looking at, we're talking purely what they call players or accounts I have a different list that is for riders and when I I was doing this I thought about doing both and then I saw the riders list was over two hundred and seventy names suites. You've got gigs. Okay. All right. I'll be willing to Bet Beth. Some of the people who were players they're both have slipped back into being writers or other shows. Yeah. You know that's true. They have their staff there and need probably go. Yeah I know that show or I know there's almost all the players were writers is just not all the writers players, right? Yeah but then a lot of them because they don't ever find the Shas. Actor stick with the riding and other places. Next up eighty Bryant a I D why Bryant so she? Talked Pass. Right. Talk. Show on Hulu now too. She's all eighty. Yeah. I would. I would say, no, she hasn't been enough stuff outside of us. Now she's kind of spare on this note begin with. Agreed next up Beth K. Hill one season early nineties familiar. Now I know she was spare I think we're GONNA hit some here Dana Carvey. Yes. Yes. Dot a great film career, but certainly enough a major insurgent live in a top-five snl cast of all time. Tony Five US hot for sure. I've made me top ten top five year push me surely surely on snl not factoring in my know what you're saying I. Heard. I. Think that's an over so. I think he would be top twenty that's under sell. John. Bugging. Okay Well, it's an interesting thought is when you throw almost all the original cast, right which you know. which is not a hard to say it's not hard to say Chevy, chase and Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi the top five real fast food bill. Murray. Eddie Murphy Right Definitely I agree top twenty. One hundred and fifty seven. That's pretty impressive. Wasn't. Harry. Welcome once again to massive head wound. Harry. Party. Sorry I'm late I forgot where he lived. That's okay. Hairy I feel dizzy massive head would area. Was hilarious. That's not fully my favorite sketch over next up is Chevy. Chase yeah. I'm chase and you're not artas sorted I generally sumo Francisco Franco is still dead absolutely obviously unless you're a community maybe maybe I. Loved Him Community I don I did too. But there were issues behind the scenes guests absolutely b-batty was great and community he was. At it was just so screwed up in the bathroom. I. Tell You what I just watched the last movie star, which was Burt Reynolds last movie and he has a part in it and he's really good in that. Okay Up. Way. Outside of US knew. I hurt her a cast member. Good good cast member nothing outside. Ellen Clegg Horn early nineties. Now she's pretty spare it. She had some pretty good characters on and L. But okay One is very brief. We can just move on George Co nope. No yet did nothing on there but here's another that would that would be very difficult to keep from being in the top five or top ten illeg crystal. Yes Oh yeah either Yucca definitely bear started when he was on Saturday night live but there is certainly things he did on Saturday night live that we're pretty good. You know for new yeah, you look marvelous. Ethically brought in because he was a huge star already. On one season deal they were trying to really save the show at that point was like eighty. Salmon Christopher guest and they were like, okay, you know you guys are kind of established but we re ringers Facie Martin Short was the other guy yeah right. The win. The non. Lauren Michael. Years. Yes. So is saw last year before more Michelson back. All right next up. Big SNL star, we're GONNA have to debate off the office anelle Jane Curtain. Okay. So I was gonNA 'cause I was GonNa talk about this She had a really successful Sitcom with Susan game of the week Nellie Kate Nellie. Really Good Sitcom. She's been Iraq rock from the sun also. Yeah. And then the USA network are had the series of library fantasy fiction. Were no wiley from e are Kinda played this he called the librarian it was to kind of Jones. Character, and she played one of is She play a character that was kind of boss elder. She's had a really long career. You know really solid in San live head to play the straight woman so many times but was brilliant at it and you know. Jane. You ignorant slut Janu ignorance slump I say yes. Absolutely. I give her a big thumbs up. Yeah. He hasn't been East huge huge things but she's had really solid success and she's been really good and everything fused and one of the very first thing she did after she left us and L.. Was a movie called how to beat the high cost of living. I laughed. So we just a kid, but it was so. The only movie I, her in was cone heads and she was just reprising SNL skit to begin that she's had enough TB success outside of s now that I would say, yes next up this is going to be one where I think the S. and L.'s is much bigger than us now. Joan. CUSAK Hoai I don't remember what she did on Saturday night live season. The first that first season, eighty-five Lorne michaels was back. When they had I don't WanNA real radloff all the names because he's GonNa get to. But there is a ton of people and ask that he would know but it was still kind of a failed season fail. US half. A. Reach of the season and boy I just it hurts me because she just so good in anything she'd does I. Just love watching her not only. She's Jesse and toy story but she's played he was good and homecoming, sixteen? Yeah Jerry would you say your favorite? Will all hers is a shameless with? William H macy. Yeah that's pretty good to. Play the romantic lead on my blue heaven with Rick Verana and. So. Good in that, but I can't remember what she did. Send that live I'm going to have to say no. I I know. All right. This wouldn't ally be controversial or you're all just GONNA say, no, we move on Davidson. Famous. He guest starred in the rookie Nathan Fillion show and he was really good a claim a loser on the show. I don't know anything else he's done. Staten Island but movie just came out now the movies good but I don't think he I don't been consider him to be successful yet no inside of SNL. And even in SNL, I can't really think of a lot of iconic skits that he's actually I was going to say it's funny. But I actually just watched the thing where they were talking about SNL and and not specifically him. But when they talked about him, they said he's on the show but he's very rarely on the show I think he's kind of more of a writer at this point, there's a lot of pre recorded. Fake rap it's like any Sandberg used to do I think they keep them around because they think at some point he's GonNa shy is GonNa pop out of this, but he just never really does more trouble and he's worth sometimes yeah I've heard there's some behind the scene stuff there. That's why it doesn't get into a lot of the skits. All right Tom Davis anyone breaking Davis they were the right big right exactly Mikey Day as. Nothing all right. Any. Dylan who. Recognize that one Jim Downey and now Robert. For Real because he really like related. Well, then here's our first case and nepotism Robert Not. Our first case Robert Downey Junior. So I do not remember what he did in. Saturday. Night live very little. This is what we talked about. Movie Stars that were bad on us, and now it's hard to put. Anything is a failure with our downey junior but I would not put him on the list you know back then he had a lot of failure because there was a lot of drug use a lot of problems. His stardom has come much later than. They would suggest because he started off yet because he kinda redeemed himself with ally mcbeal and then I remember part of the reason why him being cast in iron man is it was playing to the character right like key because he'd had Tony Stark had it was an alcoholic in the comics and his redemption in this issue he really brought into it. He's been rich because playing Tony Stark and all the other roles he's done so but not as. Thumbs Down Yeah I. Agree I. Think I remember, and as Weird Science I s I'm sure he was then snl before that the same moves. Yeah. There was the same year all back to school before. Your after weird science. What about Johnny Be Good Oh. Yeah. and that was him abandoning alcohol hall now as I was eighty eight. Alright. So we had no to him though. Movie. Star. Not a big star on us. All right. Here's one that we can debate Brian. Doyle Murray I would say great in movies scrape and everything that he touches outside of SNL. But another case of I don't remember the SNL time and I wonder if it's just because maybe that was a dark period for me with SNL I wasn't watching it as much or yeah it was. He was on there in the Dick. Years. Like eighty two, eighty, three, weekend update anchor when he was eighty two. Yeah. So you're right his off as you know career has been really long and he's written a million things you recognize him immediately he's almost never been bullied or anything close to it in anything. The character actors really big well-known recognizable character actor and Bill Maher is brother pretty much. Yes. What I think is interesting and and I'm going to vote. No is when I'm looking him up at IMDB he actually was on three episodes of the Sernet live with Howard cosell. The one bet was on the first here. Saturday night live they could call it Saturday night live is lower. ranked. was also on the Howard cosell show. So it was an as I said, you know had the good name, not the show. So I think that's kind of interesting but both but great career. Wonderful. But I would not count him on the list died I. Think as host SNL career was just a longer version of is S. and L. Career. He had some like you said, he was my weekend update anchor for a little. Bit during his short stint on S. and L., but never really one of the main players and outside of that great character staff caddyshack and things like that. But again, never star. So we're going to stand by its very similar to Jim. Belushi, got the famous brother and yet he wasn't a complete spare and I think that Brian Doyle is beyond just funny I mean the guy's a good serious act as always. Good. Things that I just thought. Wow. I did not expect that out of him and straight up and it was pretty good. I was a fan of the tents in vacation when he was meant. To. If you can do that whole thing while spitting watermelon seeds in your hand that's that's talent I mean the whole bit of boss in caddyshack where he's redeeming out. What does that side Saito fighting? Saying No. Signs biting mean. Fighting. Machine. See. All. Right. So that's a Brian boomer Rachel Dra- ch- not not enough outside of. Outside Debbie. Found mad cow disease in the US taking any chances. They live in your body for years before it ravages your brain. Good character on snl not much outside you commercials mostly now. Yeah. I. Think. So and guest spots on series but nothing she. Usually. Amy Poehler and Tina fey whenever they have any of those chick type movies they usually include her in there. All. Right Robin Duke not familiar no Nora Dunn not enough outside of us in L. Outside I can remember he's most notable because she was the. Yeah used to do the show when Andrew dice clay hosted. urged Sinead O'connor well she got the curb that she deserved it. Christine Christine Ebersol. That sounds like nepotism. one-season last things differently you would recognize her if you are because she's been in a ton of stuff is kind of like a side actor, but he's not big enough. One season on snl Dean Edwards not familiar Abby Elliott Chris Daughter daughter now right? Speaking of Chris Elliot. Yes. Yes. You know what? I don't know her his SNL is s an upgrade that great this this pains me more than anything. I'll ever do on how many because Chris Elliott is like my comedy hero. Spare on SNL if we could swap his SNL career with his letterman career. Around his he was. With Letterman yes. I don't disagree I'm big fan of his stuff outside of it but. Here's one Jimmy, fallon? Yes. Yeah. I would say if. It a couple of good movies outside of and then. Tonight show, right? Yeah and maybe best known for the fact that he just couldn't keep a straight face in most of the bids. Customers. Makes no sense. That was funny that was call was Schivonne Fallon never heard of never ninety one, ninety, two, one season. Here's an easy one Chris? Farley. Could just shut your big Jabber? Yes. I do. Yes, here's another easy one. We'll feral phone is ringing lauded. Out Dodo yes. Be. But he was on Saturday night live gin dude with the top five. But I would say I would say top five on the both lists like as far as people who are really good in both well, I break deal with the others that we named earlier row good on both twos. So definitely top ten though yeah, definitely. Ten Okay Tina Fey. Yes. Yeah. I. Can See Russia from my house I can see Russia from my house although junior Miller would strongly disagree yeah. Hey Taylor he's got an ax to grind for some reason but in addition to the movies thirty rock I, mean hard to argue Khloe. Feinman Meyer. Diesel the current cast this a pretty good. When will forte ooh, that was interesting. SNL for the movies. Guber movie also last man on Earth Right. Yes. He did I. Don't think it was a good TV series, but it certainly immediate lasted a couple of years started off really really good. But the more people they added the worse it got. The more people they brought in to the last man on earth the less funny it got. It was very funny when it was just him. It was still very funny when it was just him the one girl when they added the second girl was started to get a little bit wobbly butman and every person after that it just got worse but we said, yes, we'll forte he didn't do enough. Yeah. I think so Al Franken I. Don't think we're countless political. Yeah. I was GONNA say you? Know I I don't think he did anything they had the Stuart Smalley movie but I don't. Know. Your book No AL, Franken Heidi Gardner, nope. No. Here's a pretty good one Janeane Garofalo No. It certainly. season she terrible now counted Ben Stiller I was going to say you could swap. Still being now now. Tag Not, live she was on that same season as Chris Elliott and Lennie mcmillian Anna Guest Dire. No Godfrey for I don't remember him. Alice. The season nineteen, eighty, two first year after a long. Michael's the worst year. Did he have the annoying voice even back then that was still has bit bob cat walkway said Noah Gilbert Godfrey next up Mary Gross No, no here's a good one. But one season on SNL Christopher guest who S An out. He was doing like weekend update stuff, right? No, he had mainly he did a bit with billy crystal where they would be like. When that happens like. Java's spiking your. Day I took one meat thermometer. Shoved it into my ear as. Far as it could go you know but then I took one of them walking hammered, right? Times. What am I know I hate when that happens? More Short was only on one year, but he did a lot of stuff, right? To do. So. No one Christopher guest at. I happen to love this one. It would be a big Yes for me, but it's still early for the off SNL stuff bill Hader at. Yeah. Yeah. He first off, he's really good in San live the couple things I've seen him in he's pretty good i. Yeah Berry's. Right. Yes. Movies. Yeah. He's good movies train wreck. Property fighter I thought he was that so yeah I I would say okay. So great off SNL Anthony Michael. L. Career was spare. Younger. Didn't he give? Seventeen how would you like to bed seventeen and beyond snl but that's the thing in this is what we talked about earlier. Some people are on snl they leave their and they go become stars they go to jail or whatever they're gonNA do some people do things and then they go on us and that was him he had already done big things and then he went onto snl Alamos. WAS A bad fit. His car wasn't very good after that for a while it took odds right bounce back. Yeah although he was solid in. Freddy. Got Fingered. Let's yes. He was the guy that was running the Comic Publishing Company that Tom Green was trying to sell. Nukes on he was selling an Edward Scissorhands, but you know he was the willingness that's. What brought him back. It was one of those things that he came back. He played a completely different character the ending ever played because he looks so radically different than. kind of beefed up Brad Hall Mary To. GonNa say Mary Julia Louis Dreyfus. That's his big success right there. But he did he was he was the weekend update anchor as well. That's all he did not think he's got his success now as a writer for other shows on Saturday night live I can only remember miss a little bit being on there. So thumbs down Brad Hall Rich Hall. Glitz I'm rich off. Ever. Since we ask you to start in yours negligence we've been literally swamped snorkeling is that little game that waitresses loved to play of waiting until your mouth is full of food before coming up to you and saying. Let's coming. Yeah. Bad. This is tough because it was very short period of time, but he was massive on boat but short short short. What did he do outside of Santa? Fe The news. This Niblett books were massive. Those were around everywhere like me but I I would say, no I. Give Them. Thumbs down. As one hit one hit wonder Stiglitz's ever did. That's true. That's true Darrell Hammond yes boy he was good as alkyl or Wendy. I don't know that his movies or anything outside of that. Great. That's true. That's true. SNL But I think he's backing SNL isn't he's the he does the. Show runner. Yeah. That's what is announcement didn't really get a chance. Hartmann. I would say, yes he did enough outside the best an. Absolutely. Going to new all the way that's enough as far as I'm concerned. That was pretty great. Brilliant Gigolo. Pee Wee's big adventure, and all the album covers that he did artworks, right? America their album cover do quote him being. My money's on the money's on the table are true. It's you. I've loved him. This crap with MTV with the note today, and all is this crap Sindbad O'Connor. What gives cue ball I'm looking at you. I'm thinking fourteen in the side pocket. Jan. Hooks. Out of US and yeah I was GONNA say Yeah I agree. Outside and she was also. Big Adventure, there's no basement at the Alamo. Bagman at the Alamo that's. Nowhere from that right there that's like the big thing she was on designing women as well. That's that's true. Yeah. She was part of the second casting. WanNa say she replace Delta Burke maybe yeah that's a big Phil. That's close one but I'm GONNA say no. But in her first in ten days, solid results Berg out off next Yvonne Hudson one season on US and now. Melanie Hudson, familiar at from either is a pretty good one. On Allen May offic Toria Jackson yes. I would say, yes up to both because she was good in UHF in that movie, He was inwardly at Thomson Gav is going to say I thought she was proud. Sex. Sex and she had parts in a lot of different movies. She was successful out there and I would say her face is recognizable to most voice. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. He had the same voice as the girl that gets shot up with the the WINDEX windex man with. A window cleaner. He's on the bubble for me on that one I would say either way. I'm going to vote. Yes three. S So we're okay. All right. Leslie Jones out nine of the ghostbusters check version I. Don't think she's been in any other movies I. Disagree I think she has been some. She's Brennan Saab She's huge in stand up as well, and she's just getting going to like her career is far from over she. S L last year, she was in masterminds, which has really funny stuff in it. She's in the new coming to America movie that's coming out I have drifted away from watching certain live on a regular basis. What was the character she played in San is your guys help didn't in really have a major character she she would do like editorials on weekend update and That's mainly what's you know they used her other stuff too because she's six feet tall. Yes. Huge. So like anytime the rock was on there, she would be one of the people that would do stuff with him because she's a big woman I'm a. Thumbs down honestly. Jeremy good point. She's probably going to end up being yes but not right now. Okay. I'm surprised by that because I think she's great next up. Colin Jost now Um Mary. Both points for routing around scarborough he's having added with black widow that's almost enough to give him the X. Next Chris Catan. ooh, that's a good one I. think it's a no brainer. You gotta be kidding me I mean he didn't do much outside of SNL. I disagree I mean not at the Roxbury. Oh come on that. Horrible movie it's exactly what it was supposed to be. It's an takeoff of an SNL bit. Cone heads our that correct rookie Romanski. Romano is solid, but I don't know that it's enough there wasn't much outside of those two I can think he played Bob in the middle fifty, six episodes. So that's pretty decent couple episodes of how I met your mother. I didn't watch the middle, but that's That's a pretty strong to me. He's caught up in the Jim Breuer category. You know he was really good on satellite. He's done some stuff outside undercover brother ridiculous six undercover brother I forgot about. Yes. I'm GONNA About No. Yeah. I'M GONNA say no five years on the middle that didn't do headline the middle then maybe Janitor I don't remember him on the middle. So actually here he played football. Yeah. I used to play a little ball myself when I was your age those days they call it foosball receives to swell up something. Awful. That's little surprising walkers Catan or little Chris Catan Tim Kaczynski Chris Kerr's cosmic. Has. Now. Not Familiar. Know you know who? He is seriously yet good snl bits. Bit Yeah Yeah. Many forms amputation but there are some amputations I'm sure you're not familiar with for instance, cutting off an old man's arm is known as ramp you tation. And having a Gomer pyle removed is Shehzad Tain? Shooting Moon against the car window and winter could lead to press Hampshire take. What else? Remember in curb the S he. Knows him I'm know who he is. Laura cut linger. No. All right. Next up Terron kill him. Now current cast hasn't been anything else. This was probably pretty easy. Oh, maybe it's not got to do something on us in L. David Kestler. ooh Packard. Two thumbs likes to bone your mom. I. Did have one really good snl character but that's not enough to I. Don't remember him on s no. So I would say now I when I first saw his name I was like Oh that's no brainer. Greatness on Anchorman also greatness on the Goldberg. He's a cowboys fan on the Colbert. I'll let Laney Seabury. If you admit the cowboys are America's team cowboys. Swimming, what's that? Yes Gary Kroeger now the editor of the grocery store. Oh Freddie's brother hey uber. So that's a no next up single season Matthew Lawrence Dope. All right. She won't make it because of a work on us and album everything outside of it for sure Julia Louis Dreyfuss are. Not Strong, enough snl career, but greatness outside it. It's so hurtful could make the argument she is one of the most successful posts are at live at all times. 'cause you all the different sitcoms she's done. You know Seinfeld veep then even the venture the old. Christine Yeah. Out that. One billion, emmys. And she was worth a billion dollars before she started. To begin with. Dad and grandfather boasts stupid rich. So which We're from. Then I mean, do you think that a let's say the writing was better at the time do you think that she would have shined maybe She has the right kind of stick for us now. was she was really really young. Just out of college, he was like twenty one? and. That was a bumpy time and SNL eighty two it was four years but it was good. Yeah. She had stuck around for just a little bit longer though exactly eighty five, eighty, six, eighty, seven, it started really getting good. And she she was part of a what was the rich family she was a part of. You mean in real life like in real life her own no. But I mean she was already rich before. We just was at eighty. You'll go back and listen to the show. Conversation. Thanks for paying attention. Grandmother Bent Liquid paper or something like that or her her head. Michael Nasmyth, I'm just yanking your chain. Yeah. Dr. Data. Her Dad and her grandfather shipping magnets. Jon Lovitz. Yes Yes. Come on junior wars or was his big movies outside of us, and now he's been he's an all of the S. and L. Movies and he's funny in that movie with Dana carvey nothing. But trouble was that what was what was yours and that? Dan ackroyd nothing, but trouble I think so. There was some he's he's been at a lot of stuff to critic that was huge. Yeah. That was a shuffling again and I do give him an exemption also because he was in happiness, he's also played like twenty characters in the Simpsons Yup. Yeah. He saint been a character actor Todd Times I agree. Hotel translate. stumps up. Yeah Yeah. So that is the first half of this episode. In a couple of weeks, we'll have the second half where we go through the rest of the Saturday night live cast and discussed their success for now. Thanks and keep listening. Thank you guys for listening to us. please. Let us know what you think. Bob How can they reach you on twitter and instagram both at lukewarm talk boy and both at been scoops Scott. The twitter is Scott underscore. Matola instagram which I actually got more is at GS Matola Gary at tribal underscore. Cowboy on junior Mexican underscore junior on twitter. 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Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

Mason & Ireland

35:48 min | 2 years ago

Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

"Right F._M.. Thursday you know we always do at Friday yeah but this would this week is unusually weird. 'cause it's basketball finally calm down. Yes football is revving up but not quite whereas in there and baseball the dodgers just decided not show up for the freeways. There's that's not fair. They played hard. They just lost to one run game. Yeah yeah there was a mythical money. Though oh yeah I'm coming. I'm coming like a last place horse that founded stride to go money sponsored by the Bicycle Hotel and casino last night. I lost twenty five hundred dollars on the dodgers <hes> and and where do we stand so yesterday. We got into a spirited discussion about the T._N._T.. Players on off GonNa miss the player and you're literally the only one and Mason said to me off the air he said said to me. I said you know nobody likes that players only and he he said no no. It's just you media guys. Don't like yeah you guys full regular pencil wait. We're going the air and in Mason goes. I'll Betcha I it easy five thousand signatures to bring back players only and I went fine done. Let's thousand dollars miracle money and you'd be twenty four hours and off the your mason privately said this is going to be the easiest money ever made he goes. You don't understand Dan tough at his regular. People love players Pino won the rake and they're not the people that are in the league like you rank and file fans like me although I couldn't believe in he was totally trolling me and trying to get me to react. I didn't go for it like one of my best friends. One of my like five best friends. Yes tweeted what a lousy decision by T._N._T.. Brought some fun to the Games. It's so bad I might even sign the at Venice Maze Padilla today you go but what is Steve with with two hours to go do we do we do it until the start fast route. Five thousand signatures wins you the bet. How many signatures do you have as of twelve twelve o two today one hundred twenty nine this way by the way there are four hundred fifty nine views of the petition and you only have one hundred twenty nine reading reading it going this guy's fuller exciting this at five thousand people listening to the station right now? Was I sure do I are there five thousand Mason fans out there right now. No come on obviously there are one hundred twenty nine Mason. I'm tweeting this hour. I know in for me people. They won now Greg. What about my my offer that if one hundred people would unfiled mason the one hundred on follow would get passes to Mason movie night? What did anyone on follow him? Yes he yesterday he did <hes>. Let's see WHO's at fifty five one thirty five. He has now at fifty five one twenty seven so did I did give away for a four four-pack tickets to the guy that was the one hundred person to re tweet. What one hundred twenty nine correct use semi that counting the retreats already Senate's promotions? I did find the guy and number one hundred is going to be at the movies with us. So I'm tweeting. Come on guys I speaking by the way of Oh see week. That's Mason movie night. Is the Monday voc- week in ten minutes. Greg explained the mystery box you you all we know is that boxes boxes are coming in here and we're opening them that pretty much the extent of it yeah to the point where I don't know it's in the box but see you have these. Do you see weeks. See this says Steve Mason. It's a white it's about the size of a shoebox right and then you can just open it up as an E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles Angels Logo on it. You just have to say what it's an O._C.. Week Mr O._C.. Week mystery bucks a lot of people asking me about Oh see week. Oh there's a lot well. This is your these. Are Your pl yeah a lot of this. You're part of the world so <hes> it all starts on Monday August fifth I tweet out. Come on guys do this for me. Just sign it. I don't care if you like players. Only are not doing solid. I'm going to respond to this in a public forum. Come on let's get there's a new one follow for you Mason Mason. There's a new one follow for you. Okay good. This is from someone you know someone. You'd like a friend a friend Beto Duran has followed you go beto Drennan. I have an on it off relationship so he never had me on his <hes> his. You were on his podcast what he's doing that podcast before. We went to the L._A.. Times yeah. He never had me on that. I've been on both I was on the old one and I've been on the new one on the L._A.. Times one yeah I've done either. You know what I'm on following right now. Damn him damn him so yeah we also there was a chain of of text messages today. What is this? This is your fault right. You're the one who started Oh. I started it yeah yeah so mason just goes to the most he he goes through his phone and looks at the most recent Texas change between that it involves Greg Mason and me but he didn't notice is it also involved Sodano. I don't know how you got on the chain but he did so basically you've been sending texts all day to Sodano you've been sending him are playbook playbook since like eight o'clock this morning right that is correct since eight o'clock this morning and let's see the text messages are like it's the doldrums. Let's get a gas how fasten what else can we do Jeff <hes> Greg Saint just mess around just goof around and Georgia's in on all this stuff. I'm trying to get Georgia's going to bring this up later so John. I'm getting ahead of the story <hes> so I wanNA tell my story so other people don't hotel enrolling for P._R.. So he happened to be story house before someone tells it for you. No big deal not a big deal. It is the doldrums really is the doldrums all right so we've got by the way I don't know if Greg do you have coli with Chris Hanes answering the question just on followed better during a very so. I don't know people love to makes makes stories and connect you say the N._B._A.. You trust the N._B._A.. Media I do I listen to the N._B._A.. Media sure so the N._B._A.. Media for longtime was saying Oh magic Johnson screwed up the LAKER negotiations with glide. What was it theory right so yesterday? Chris Hanes asked Coli Yup quite know that's absolutely not true. I had a perfectly normal conversation with magic. I was close to sign him with the Lakers. This situation just was that was totally fair to speculate about right but I'm saying by the way you'll take speculation as Gospel and it's not and by the way nobody necessarily said that's what's. I theorized that that's what screwed it. I don't know I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about there was a story in the athletic. Yesterday yeah or someone is quoted. The second magic went public. The Lakers were out quite said no absolutely nice rue right. You know it's just we're assuming the coup why is GonNa say what he's really thinking. But why wouldn't he well. Why would he because alienate Magic Johnson but why he hasn't done the lose I don't? I don't think why is lying. <hes> the he basically just said this clipper situation situation was exactly what I was looking in fairness. They're multiple. People said that the entire negotiation was about <hes> was a loyalty test and the one who I didn't want. was anybody talking publicly days mattress going on. I know he says says it's not true. That doesn't mean it's not true yeah. That's what he's saying by changing subject here breaking news who is Tyler White Tyler white is a first baseman a right handed first baseman who is designated for assignment by the Houston Astros a few weeks ago the dodgers spun off a AA reliever whose name is literally Scrub Andrei Scrub Aa Reliever who is literally named Scrub. In order to get a right handed bat a guy who can play first base and gives them potentially right handed bat off the bench and maybe a scrub as well and maybe the the people speculate. Hey maybe this is the new Max Muncie well. They have to create a spot on the roster to make room forum. One possibility is Kiki. Hernandez could go on the injured list. He left the game last night with the left hand injury <hes> Chris Taylor's already on the injured list so anyway welcome Tyler White. The dodgers have traded for Tyler Tyler. Yes all right so coming up next. We'll open these mystery boxes and May. Do you know what happened twenty nine years ago today twenty nine years ago today in nineteen eighty nine so that would be thirty nine. That's thirty nine thirty nine years ago today twenty nine years ago today. I thought you were talking about the day. I got to Los Angeles because we're right about their. No this would be one thousand nine hundred thirty nine nine years ago today. Oh No I have no idea July twenty-fifth nineteen eighty no clue very significant day in sports history until you what it is coming. Okay cool. Hey Tim Hopson tweets. I hate players only but for you mason I will do anything <hes> James tweets pick a different hill maze. No one likes to play rear at one hundred ninety five signatures so we are picking up steam on. I think you have an excellent chance players only elite where the Boxes Johnson we owe Jefferson Jasmine Jasmine have walked in. Thank you all right. I've told us we have to open the mystery cases so owed shirts okay so excellent. Hey that's a good look insure right there O._C. E._S._p._N.. O._C. Orange County week great shirt and shirt another one what golf balls I'm very happy with okay my shirts okay. The gray one fits the blue one. I have to give to Jack Ireland because the blue ones too small but golf balls didn't give you golfing golf balls handed over to me. These are excellent say O._C.. Week really yeah. They say yeah they do. They put the logo on them excellent. You can lose mace the questions. You're playing three holes three holes. There are twelve balls here. You play the three holes with twelve. What do you think I can play him with one sleep so you played one ball so Chris Morales told me I should get some kind of golf lesson before I go that would ruin the seventeen what cursory Sirri plain black gold black gold? He says the seventeenth hole is the hardest hole on the course so that's when you should play yeah. That's GONNA play but I don't know if twelve balls will be enough. Is there a Kerry. Do you have to hit it over a ravine or anything I I don't know longtime ago. Yeah you've played a long time ago <hes> so that's Thursday of Oh see week and by the way I think we're giving away these these boxes all week. <hes> law are narrow see week regime away the shirts but the we signed these boxes right so we gotta be giving them to somebody. We don't want Mason's autograph way where we gotta give them to somebody. Stephen hasn't signed dis yet. I don't think he's coming out for oh. See Neither Sodano Sodano China Sodano coming for half of the week. Oh is that right. He's coming for the first part of it. Where's and then you let end of us eweek reunion of Thompson and Trudell no I George does at least Monday Tuesday maybe many Tuesday Wednesday and then Thompson Hampson trudell doing the the last few shows wow so that'll be fun for the old time signature rides again now? Thank you Janice. Thank you jasmine. Those are excellent excellent gifts all right so nineteen eighty thirty nine years ago today. We'll significant sports day. Where were you in life in junior colonel mar high school okay and I would have been a freshman at Mommy Highschool okay? That's it's when this came out. Can I ask you something sure thing shoot Timmy Danny Danny. You Take Drugs Danny every day. Good Danny this is in Russia Russia. Excuse Betty Danny Sir any stop thinking. Let things happen and the the ball beatable caddyshack came out. What a legendary movie so I was thinking about something? CADDYSHACK is one of the only movies where you can say like you go to anybody you go to Tiger Woods Tiger Woods Right K.. What's the greatest Gulf movie ever? He'll say caddyshack yeah you go to the late Cisco in Ebert back when they were around around. Yes what's the best golf movie ever Caddyshack caddyshack Sir Tin Cup second began to is it encompassed by the way tin. Cup is definitely number two right. Can you say that about any other sport art so in other words. Let's take baseball for example. Some people would say white men can't Yup yeah some people would say hoosiers Hoosiers Lake hoosiers would be my aun