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"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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These are really difficult crazy stressful times, and if you're trying to sort of cope, it could be helpful to find something that gets beyond like doom scrolling and like obsessive worried. But digs into what is really going on underneath the surface, and that's what the weeds is all about I. Matthew Yglesias. Weeds podcast here on the box meeting podcast network. This is podcast for people who really want to understand the policy debates and policy issues that shaping our world. We've seen now more than ever like how relevant policy is to our actual lives, but so much in the news isn't focused on really understanding and explaining detail way if that sounds good to you, join us for the weeds, every Tuesday and Friday to find out what's going on why matters and what we can do about it. You could download the weeds on apple spotify or wherever else you get your podcasts. Tracy. When it comes to facebook I turn to you. FACEBOOK is patience consumer of startups as what we've learned. Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
"brett kevin" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Claim a pro to way pro second amendment status here in Indiana. Gutted it ended. It is over. Joe? Donnelly liked to say, hey, I have a positive rating for the NRA. Well, he doesn't anymore. Specifically after he voted against Brett, Kevin. So that put the lie to Joe Donnelly's argument that he was a moderate. That he was pro to way. That he represented the interests of the vast majority of hoosiers in the Senate the vote against Brett Donnelly exactly as I wrote several months ago doomed Joe Donnelly. And at the end of the day. I mean, he had to know that. I mean, first of all, you know, he read my article on ABC. But kidding aside? He had been told by his adviser. He has to be smart enough to know he can't claim to be a central. He can't claim to be a moderate. If he those votes against a pro to a supreme court nominee, you just can't. So the end of the day it came down to a choice for Joe Donnelly. He had to follow the direction of Chuck Schumer and the Senate leadership among the Democrats. He had he had he had to be Chuck Schumer's lapdog. Or he had to vote according to what he knew. We're the views and the priorities. Of his constituents here in Indiana. And how did he vote? Chuck Schumer tugged on a leash. He responded. And it cost him the cost him. It wasn't even close.
"brett kevin" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120
"Year with that. I must say that you, sir. Under historic scrutiny were proven innocent. Thank you. Now that is bound to get some people talking and that is a move. I wasn't expecting to happen. He doesn't have to apologize. I think to the cabinet family. I don't think he was one to try to strip away any due process or anything that was the ability for him to defend himself advanced. I think he always wanted everyone to be able to defend himself. I think he wanted Dr four to be able to give her testimony be heard. But even as equally important the ability for Brett Kevin on to defend himself, which he did. And how many FBI reports do we have? Now, we have six thorough investigations with a seventh amendment onto that stating that they couldn't corroborate any of the claims so him to come out and do something like that is pretty surprising to me. I wasn't expecting that to happen out. The Guinea one was expecting that to happen. But just earlier today there was at the White House ceremony. President Trump said a couple of other things to net was later in the night. He had a couple of statements leading up to it. About how this has been played in. How political it has gotten including how he thinks this is going to backfire and Democrats now the impeach cavenaugh talk has already started. Claire mccaskill is came out and said, she's never gonna impeach cavenaugh. Plus, there's a lot of questions on. How would you even go about doing that? But that's the rallying cry leading into midterm elections right now, all I guess, we we lost the the supreme court seat. We weren't able to delay things long enough to try to push something else or someone else I should say. So now, we're just gonna talk about winning the midterms in order to get enough people to try to Paul and impeachment or whatnot. This is what President Trump said about it earlier. I've.
"brett kevin" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM
"And we've got a lot to talk about Saturday. Of course was the big day. Brad Kavanagh judge Brett Kevin was confirmed with the supreme court on a fifty to forty eight vote devote itself was something of an anti-climax. It was clear there for at least a couple of days that he was going to be to be confirmed. And he was immediately sworn in and he'll be out the. Bench. I think not tomorrow. I think they're off today. But I think tomorrow we'll be seeing Justice Brett Cavanaugh the supreme court bench. And I think now that there's appalling process has finally come to an end think most of us have got mixed feelings, you know, we're happy that that we finally one or happy that that the Senate eventually got to the right result. And outstanding conservative Justice was confirmed on the other hand, I think all of us are depressed about how awful how awful the process was the smears to which judge Cavin on his family were were subjected and the utter dishonesty of the Democrats in tried to derail his nomination by any means necessary, including mob action in Washington DC. We'll be talking about that aspect of it later as the as the show continues. It as usual when you have these political dramas you've got heroes, and you've got villains right heroes include Mitch McConnell McConnell has sometimes been been criticized by my view, the Senate is that because of the filibuster. The majority leader of the Senate tends to look like tends to look ineffectual and the minority leader of the Senate tends to look like a tactical genius. Usually that's not true. And I I think Mitch McConnell knows how to work the Senate as well as anybody. But when the filibuster and play the majority leader is often rather paralyzed. The filibuster is not in play here. Of course. And we we owe a debt of gratitude to Harry Reid for busting filibuster has to judicial nominees not was in effect only for a short time. The Democrats put the filibuster into effect for judicial nominees sometime in the ninety s or the two thousands. So it was very brief. And then they decided to take it away. And that may things a little bit easier for the Republicans this time around so Mitch McConnell was a hero. He he he steadfastly work denomination through the Senate. He leaned hard on his on his colleagues. He got the vote scheduled when he had the votes to to confirm judge cavenaugh as kudos to Mitch McConnell. Donald trump. Donald Trump was a hero of the process. Trump nominated a mainstream salad conservative non-political, very experienced judge. He could have gotten younger he could have gone, more ideological. But he didn't he went with them. The most plainly qualified confirmable mainstream person on his list, probably that being judged cavenaugh. And and I think part of what the Democrats did want one of their ideas was that they might undermine the president's support for his nominee, and and Trump might withdraw the nomination or or lean on the nominee to withdraw from the process. I think they thought they had a good chance to intimidate judge cabinet the point rate didn't wanna proceed on account of the smears, of course, that didn't happen. So heroes, the heroes of the process. Susan collins. So. Who before this process began whoever would have said that the big heroes on the Republican side. But turned out to be Susan Collins Lindsey Graham, I would not have predicted that I'm sure you would not have either. But Susan Collins from Maine always considered a swing vote and swing of course, if you're a if you're solid conservative like, I am most of you probably are means unreliable means every once in a while. They they go native and vote the other way, but not this time. Susan Collins gave really an excellent speech, you've probably seen at least excerpts from it. She talked for quite a while. But she started at square one talking about the supreme court in about the senate's constitutional role in advising and consenting to the president's nominations. And she talked about how she's voted for liberal justices nominated by democratic presidents in the past and talked about what what she thinks the standard is. And why she thinks that judge Cavanaugh clearly met it. It was an excellent speech. And and Susan Collins viewed as a possible no vote early on turned out to be one of the heroes. Lindsey Graham, Lindsey Graham is a funny guy. You know, he was John McCain's sidekick for quite a few years. And I think there were times when Lindsey Graham was kind of being led astray by McCain. He was hurt elected junior. Maverick. You know, and and there are situations where McCain was double crossing his party. And and he can. Always count on Lindsey Graham as a as a follower. Maybe with McCain. Now gone, maybe that will be truly longer. I don't know in any event that the best moment in the whole confirmation process. Was of course, when Lindsey Graham went on his epic righteous tirade against the Democrats and really told it like it was to the satisfaction of every Republican watching that outrageous hearing. You know, they had the hearings to be earlier the confirmation hearing that was over the Democrats, of course, had nothing on Kevin I'd ever laid a glove on him. And so they waited until after the confirmation hearing was done, and then they at the last possible moment pull out of their back pocket. This ridiculous allegation by Christine Ford, which their staff it helped forward to concoct. She changed her story and key respects fundamental respects after she started working with the democratic staffers on the judiciary committee, if we have time, maybe we'll talk about that a little bit later on the show as well. But in any event. That that follow up hearing that just riveted millions and millions of Americans never should have happened. But it did and Lindsey Graham really stole the show. Cabinet himself. Of course is one of the heroes of the process. The Democrats tried to intimidate him. They tried to drive them out they failed, and I think the turning point along with along with Lindsey Graham's righteous indignation. I think the turning point was was cabinet cabinet is own indignation on he testified before the Senate Judiciary committee and came out strong. You know, hitting hard indignant at having been smeared indignant at having had his reputation destroyed falsely for no good reason by the Democratic Party. So I think I think judge cabin himself goes into the books as one of the heroes. How about the villains? Well, Lisa Murkowski, Republican vote. No, she's not up for reelection until two twenty twenty two. And maybe she thinks that Republican voters will have forgotten about this by then I don't think so maybe she means to retire from the Senate and figures she's a free agent doesn't have after run again as a Republican or maybe she intends to. Which parties I I don't know if she certainly could run as a democrat in twenty twenty two and and she would proudly offer that no vote on judge cavenaugh is as her prime qualification. I don't know how the voters in Alaska would take that. But you know, there's an interesting thing going on here. Lisa Murkowski is the daughter of governor Frank Murkowski, who was a Republican politician. If I if memory serves me correctly, it was governor Murkowski who Sarah Palin defeated when she ran for governor. I think she ran against Murkowski in the Republican primary and beat him. That was the real shocker, and then she ran against the democrat. I forget his name. But he was the most popular democrat in Alaska at that time. I if I remember correctly, also, a former governor himself, and she and she and she beat the democrat in the general election to become the the governor of Alaska. But but Lisa Murkowski is not someone who had to earn her stripes as a Republican or as a conservative was the governor's daughter and people who are in that situation. Oftentimes. Are are not don't have a deep ideological foundation. Don't really know. Why am I Republican? Well, my daddy was a Republican, you know. And and and I think it's it's dangerous to put people like that in in public office. Because when crunch time comes you may find out that they really don't have the commitment to Republican principles that you normally assume that they have so Sarah Palin. Of course, trolled troll. These were Caskey on Twitter. Sarah Palin tweeted, I could see twenty twenty two from my house which everybody took as a threat that Sarah Palin might run against Murkowski in the Republican primary in twenty twenty two. Well, I hope someone does help someone does. Other villains, of course, include Dianne Feinstein, and the others on the Senate Judiciary committee. No reason even to talk about them. We knew they were going to be villains. And they were Joe Manchin, Joe Manchin is an interesting situation here Joe mansion is the is the is the most conservative democrat in the in the Senate, which of course, is served damning with faint praise that doesn't make a very conservative. But but what he can he votes with his constituents which means voting most of the time with the Republicans because Trump carried Westwood West Virginia by like forty two points or something like that. So so mansion is up this year. He's writing he's got a strong opponent trying to hang onto his Senate seat. So so mansion was not exactly a profile. Encourage mansion waited to see how other senators were voting. And when it was clear that the nomination couldn't have been stopped. The Democrats didn't have the votes Susan Collins as voting yes, everybody's voting. Yes. On the Republican side. Except for Lisa Murkowski. So when it was clear that the vote was lost Chuck Schumer released, Joe Manchin, and Joe Manchin bravely voted yes, the nomination in favor of confirming judge Gavin when it didn't matter what it was clear that it that it wouldn't matter if it had matter would've voted, no. And and he did that obviously to try to keep alive his hopes to get reelected next month, and you can contrast what Joe Manchin did with what Heidi Heitkamp debt, Heidi Heitkamp from North Dakota came out and opposition to judge cavenaugh. She actually came out. I forget exactly when but not it wasn't. You know, her vote was not a surprise some days earlier. She had come out and said, oh, I'm going to vote. No. There's only one explanation for that. And that is that Heitkamp was looking at the polls in North Dakota and realized she had no chance of being reelected, and she won't be that that that race is over. And so looking at the polls and realizing she had no chance of being reluctant what she thinking about. Well, she's thinking about her future media career, you know, as a as a former democrat Senator she never has to return to North Dakota. She could be like, Tom Daschle. I don't think Tom Daschle ever set foot in the state of South Dakota get after losing his reelection bid to to John thune. He bought a stately townhouse in Georgetown, and and continues to reside in Israel home. Washington DC so Heidi Heitkamp by voting. No has burnished her credentials as a cable news figure after she loses. Her reelection bid next month. Let's ride to a break. And when we return we'll have more on the cabinet nomination and your calls at eight five five forty Laura. The Laura Ingram show..
"brett kevin" Discussed on KGO 810
"Have you not come to decision on this? Walking into this morning. I believe that Brett Kevin using it just may be. He's not the right man for the court at this time. Was more Lisa Murkowski from Alaska Senator from Alaska? Eight tennis the telephone number eight oh eight oh, eight ten. We're talking about the nomination. And tell me about these things that we now know about Brad Kavanagh that he lied under oath that his demeanor in the Senate Judiciary committee hearing was deplorable and rude and obnoxious. Does that bother you should that have weighed on these senators and this process that has turned into something that is so ridiculously pardon me because of the partisanship. Maybe that's the reason they weren't willing to actually do a proper vetting and investigate the credible charges the credible allegations that were made by Christine bossy Ford, eight hundred eighty eight tennis the telephone number eighty eighty eight ten let's go to Roberto. He's from Hayward. Hey, Roberto, welcome to GIO. Hey, good evening. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. How about you? Okay. Good. So I believe they've been vetted for seven times the president said that that's what I've heard. So you had told reading this is the eighth time. I really believe that something did happen to Ford. Think bush. Collaborator. So you got one against the other one. Okay. Wait a minute. But you said you believe that something happened to her? I think something happened to her. Up here. I believe something good happens to that lady right now. So you believe her you think she's credible, except when it gets to the part where she says she's one hundred percent certain that her assailant was Brett Kavanagh, then suddenly her credibility goes out the window. Collaborating with say, yeah, I'm certain, but there's nobody that's the same. There's not a corroborating witness. But she herself is an eyewitness because she's saying that guy is the one who assaulted me. So there's that she also detector test, which he refused to do. Right. Question who who paid for that? It was a former it was a former FBI agent who gave her the test and that person wanted to be interviewed by the FBI that was not allowed by the White House. And also she didn't want to fly. But yet she's gone too. Big case in the stuff. So what? So why did she say that she would not fly into things to that? But then she would lying because she didn't she didn't like to fly. But there were times that she needed to fly. And so she did. But she didn't like it. She was afraid of flying. She didn't like it. Shaved didn't debilitate her. But does that mean that she's not telling the truth? I mean, I think there are a lot of people who don't like to fly, but they sometimes have to fly. That's pretty only he said, she said, there's no more. She took a lie detector test and passed it. How many questions to I don't know? How many questions she wanted the FBI too? Well, she wanted. She maybe there were maybe there were two questions was that is that a problem? Why wouldn't he answer to questions with a polygraph? What this comes down to it comes down to people don't want a conservative charge because they don't want Roe v. Wade overturned, they don't want same sex marriage, or you know, what people don't want a conservative judge. That's true. I've I've been telling people I don't and I don't want Roe v. Wade overturned, I don't want that. But I'm a person who said that I thought he should be confirmed. When I when all I knew were his qualifications. I thought he was qualified when these other things have come up and his demeanor in front of the judiciary committee to me means he is not qualified. He doesn't have the suitable judicial temperament, and he's also biased. He obviously hates Democrats. And he hates liberals. He hates the left. So were you at all concerned about the way he? He behaved in that hearing. I guess the left hates the Republicans and people don't lie because because they insisted on trying to get to the bottom of a credible allegations serious allegation against a nominee. S their job. That's their job Grassley gave the Democrats he gave the week because on the week. He got it. You know? Because he didn't give it to Democrats. He agreed to it. Because a Republican wouldn't give him the vote unless he did. So he was forced to do that. And yet they did not give the FBI free rein to conduct this investigation. In a limited time period. They gave them the only people they could talk to the FBI was not allowed to talk to either Cavanaugh or Blasi Ford. Now, tell me what investigation you wouldn't talk to the two principles in that investigation. They'd be the most important people the interview. And why does flake said if I see it's fine our vote. Yes. So why now that everybody has seen the report and flake was the one that said, I'm telling them that. Now, he's brought him here. So tell me how he is not he has versus last week. It was well, I don't know. He's because he actually voted. Yes. Last week to you may realize because what he said last week. And listen to what he said again, he didn't say I have questions and I want an FBI investigation. What he said was the process is flawed, and he said because of the process being flawed. I think I'm not going to give you a yes vote unless you agree that we're going to wait for a week and allow the FBI to do an investigation, but he voted yes. Out of committee, and he voted yes again, and that really was anticipated. There was no corroborating evidence. There was nothing to change anybody's mind. And I'm the this is the part. I don't think that you're hearing that I'm saying because the investigation itself was flawed. It was a crock. It was a mockery. It was nothing but cover for the Republicans. So that they can say we did everything you wanted. But they didn't think about. It this way. Let's say that let's say you were assaulted and you accuse somebody in the police said, okay? We're gonna do an investigation, and and because you say this person assaulted, you they say they didn't and the police talk to people there were no I witnesses. They talked to a handful of people, but they don't talk to you. Would you be satisfied without investigation? Would you think that they actually were trying to get to the bottom of it? No. The FBI didn't make this decision, by the way, the FBI would do a thorough investigation. Had that been there directive they were directed quite specifically by the president. Now, here's the thing to riddle me, this why won't the White House release to the Senate Democrats to the Democrats on the judiciary committee and to the public what the orders to the FBI were. Why won't they show us? Why won't they publicly release what they asked the FBI to do what they outlined as the limited scope of the FBI investigation. Why won't they release that? I mean, if they did that that would give us some kind of clue wouldn't it? Eight hundred eighty eight ten is the telephone number. That's eight oh, eight oh, eight ten. Let's go to James calling from walnut creek. Hey, Jane, welcome to K G O. Hey, Pat, I'm just so super impressed. With the whole time line in the way, you're acting this. And I think I don't know where to begin except to say that you're absolutely right. We got you where we got to. And it was and it was because of process, and there's no way that this process host what Jeff flake was calling for the shoplifting. It. It is very interesting thing in of itself. And I believe that that's politics. But the fans that you're right that that Kevin Halloween. Do a polygraph is very interesting. He actually was quoted in a case that said that polygraphs were very significant in the settling of various matters. So he believed in policy in in polygraph. Even though they can't be submitted into court. Then Cohen's today said something very interesting. I think the American Bar Association. And maybe I'm wrong gave him a high rating back in two thousand and six you Nelson. And I've heard this too that they were pulling that and reviewing it. But college today who did seem to do her homework. She was still quoting two thousand and six. So he was still rated supreme they they did they did recently for this nomination, the ABA they have a select a selection committee. They did give him their highest rating in terms of his qualifications. When the process began today now that was from this particular committee couple of days ago, the president of the a BA came out and said he doesn't have the judicial temperament he should not be seated that wasn't this committee though, and so- Grassley kept going back to the committee today. The committee came out and said, we are reopening our investigation taking back that rating, and we will reissue a rating which they haven't done yet. And so what I'm saying is how can Senator Collins in all of her G tailed, and I believe she did GTO doing analysis up from her standpoint close them today when she had to know very well, the American Bar Association had kind of pulled that rating and was looking at this themselves on top of the two thousand attorneys, or whatever who said what they said. I mean that just seems so obvious to me. Me and nobody nobody seems to catch. But Finally, I will end up by saying hausky. I listening to what you play because I hadn't had a chance to listen to her. And I thought what she said was so right on I'm a democrat. But I was totally impressed with her is you put everything aside, even the original claim, and you just saw this man's actions. Of the Senate. It said it all that somebody who is going to be named supreme in the sense of the supreme court should never be allowed that position when his politics. He's demeanor him being deceitful and using terms, which if you found out that they were not true all those things were so obvious that mcculskey hit it right on the head for that reason alone this managed should not be sitting don't give him a job this man should not be at the head in the supreme court. And yeah. She goes down and says presence. I don't get that either. I think it's I don't understand why she's doing that. Accept it seems as if she wants some sort of cover, and you just can't do that. You just you just can't do that. In the letter that was written by the professors, by the way, there are now twenty seven hundred who have signed onto this law professors from across the country as far as I can tell I think it's every state in the union is represented most of the law schools in the country are represented. I don't know how many law schools there are, but there are an awful lot of people signing onto this. You know, as as they talk about this. They talk about that Hamilton Alexander Hamilton writing in federalist seventy eight expressed the need for the integrity and moderation of the judiciary. They talk about the differences. They all have in terms of politics. But they say that he was repeatedly aggressive with questioners, and they say he exhibited. I think this is. Crucial. He exhibited a lack of commitment to judicious inquiry. Emmy, what are they supposed to do when they get a credible allegation? That's this serious against him. Are they just post to take his word for it? And when the hearing takes place, he seems really miffed that they actually spoke to Dr Ford that they're actually asking him questions about this allegation. How dare he take that position? They're there to beat him the opportunity to answer the questions to represent his case and instead of treating it as a serious judicious inquiry. He just immediately out of the gate comes out barking at the Democrats in particular and insulting people. It was one of the most shameful displays that I've seen in the United States Senate. That's what I think too. I totally think then and and as I said if you even remove the claim. Doctor for which I'm not saying, you should that's how this all started. Right. But if you even removes the claim, and you get to the point where he's questioned, right? And you just look that snippet, right? That's snippet alone. Based on everything that's written in the codes about judicial conduct. That alone should have made people not BI partisan. Right. Exactly. And it would have been really nice if the Republicans in the judiciary committee, and Chuck Grassley in particular had did some had done something to censure Brett Cavanaugh to tell him. This is not the appropriate comportment in the United States. Senate eight hundred eighty eight ten is the telephone number eight hundred eight oh, eight ten. I'm Pat Thurston. This is K G. O Pat Thurston on K G O eight ten join and celebrate.
"brett kevin" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"The daily. Dive weakened edition breathing continue our conversation with ginger Gibson for all the analysis of Thursday's big hearing in Washington. Let's let's move a little too brick Kavanagh's testimony. You know, the president has already come out and said that he was thrilled by his by his testimony. He said, it was powerful honest. Riveting. And the Democrats were just using a search and destroy strategy which was disgraceful and called for the Senate to vote immediately. And that's how Brett Kevin has started. He started off. Sounded pretty angry. And pretty fire. He did get emotional. He had some tears he shed a little bit. He said that the hearing had become a national disgrace, this confirmation processes become a national disgrace, the constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy since my nomination in July. There's been a frenzy on the left to come up with something anything to block my confirmation. This was one of the most angry testimonies that he could have given I have to admit myself. And I think a lot of people were shocked that he began so angry that he stayed so angry the ration- accept those amendments when he was crying it was so partisan. We heard him in the first. Rounds of testimony talk about not being partisan about being independent about being unable to comment on anything that might be perceived as partisan, and then of course, it is testimony this week. He then accused the Democrats of perpetuating what he called revenge for the Clintons. I cannot think of a more partisan approach than than suggesting that all of this is just the Clintons trying to get back at him. That definitely struck me too. You know, you sympathize with him in the sense that he's being accused and to him. He's totally denying this in his head. He's never done this. He didn't do this. He doesn't know where these accusations are coming from. So of course, he's going to fight tooth and nail to defend his character. But at that point what you were just alluding to is like you throw impartiality out the window when he's criticizing the Democrats in that way. And I thought it would have served him a little better if he stayed away from that stuff and still remain defiant and angry at the some of the process that was going on. But don't attack the Democrats because then it makes you look like, you know, further on down the line if you get confirmed, you're always going to be. You can't be impartial anymore. Had no doubt that he had clearly given up on convincing any Democrats to vote for his nomination. This was a rallying cry to his base to President Trump's base. And he was speaking to a fear that exists at least in some portions of the American male population that they're constantly at risk. Good people innocent people being wrongly accused of sexual assault. He was trying to say that any good upstanding man in America could end up in his shoes. And he was telling Republicans that this was a political issue. And you know, if the Republican senators have to go to the floor next week and vote on a nomination that is framed in do you believe Christine blassie Ford or not it would be hard to vote to say, they don't she was just such a credible messenger in her testimony. But if you frame the vote, not in the truthfulness of the accusation, but in the partisanship of the vote of it being Republicans versus Democrats of one side winning versus losing that boat. Looks different to a lot of Republican senators thought that Brad Kavanagh was pretty strong in his denials of this obviously he was going to maintain the line the whole time and Rachel Mitchell did get to question him a little bit. It didn't last the entire session of his of his testimony. But I thought where he looked a little uneasy was when they did keep bringing up the issue of his drinking. They you know, he kept going back and forth too. I like beer, I drink beer, you know, how many? Beers. You like us asking defiantly to the senators would you like to drink trying to defuse it a little bit? But you know, that was one of the things they kept asking him about his memory. Did you ever blackout when you're drinking? And I felt like he was a little uneasy answering those questions he did appear to become frustrated. I think maybe one of the bigger moments of his testimony was when Senator Amy klobuchar of Minnesota after talking about how her father is a well known alcoholic who is talked about his actions who at ninety years old still attends a a meetings. She asked him how he ever been blackout drunk and his response was I don't know how about Yale. And he did later apologized for that remark. But it was incredibly slip end and. Well, outside the norms of how we see people testifying in front of the United States Senate or talking to a United States Senator especially immediately after she's talking about addiction in her own family. These last two moments that I want to address during Brett Kavanagh's testimony. I thought really changed the tone, and where everything was kind of ending up at the at the end of the whole hearing is when dick Durbin urged Cavanaugh to look to Don Mcgann and say, hey, let's stop this. Let's do an FBI investigation. Because after that all the Republican senators wanted to focus on we don't need this the FBI doesn't make any conclusions. They're just going to do a report why didn't the Democrats bring this to us earlier. And the other part was Lindsey Graham. That's when Rachel Mitchell stopped asking questions, she was done at the end at when that happened and Lindsey Graham had an angry impassioned plea or Brett Kevin. I said you guys are destroying this guys. Life. We have a little clip of that. Let's hear it. This is going to destroy the ability of good people to come forward because this crap. Your high school yearbook you're supposed to be Bill. Cosby, when's your junior and senior in high school, and all of a sudden, you got over it spend, my understanding that if you drug women and rape them for two years in high school, you probably don't stop. I hope that the American people will see through this show rate. I'm not aware of any evidence that people who rape someone and high school then stop that maybe Lindsey Graham will provide that for us. But it was clear he was angry. And he was trying to voice that anger and trying to rally the troops and say this is unfair and they needed to show up and defend their guy. This is a clear. Two different worlds. The members of that panel were not viewing the world in the same way. Democrats were talking about what they saw credible and legitimate claim that needed to be taken seriously. And then as Senator Dianne Feinstein put it weighed as part of a job interview and Republicans saw this as a political partisan fight an assault from Democrats that needed to be defended that brick Brett Cavanaugh was the victim of and that they needed to step in and do something to rally him. And I think that you know, you talked about the questions stopping we understand that to be because Republicans belt that they were not getting what they needed out of those questions, and that they needed to be vocally defending him. There was no emotion on the part of Rachel Mitchell. So they needed to interdict interject themselves to kind of charge up that side of it in the end where does this put us because you know, while this played out? On television on radio everywhere. All over the world people were really looking into this. It was really for a smaller audience. It was just for those members in the committee to see if anybody was gonna get swayed. It was for those in the Senate to how they're going to vote later on next week. In reality. This whole thing was just for a smaller audience than anybody else realizes. And I don't think we're any closer to any type of conclusion. I'm not sure I agree with you there. Oscar, I think you're right. There is a question of what the Senate dies we laid on Thursday. We're hearing that some more publican senators remain undecided on cavenaugh. But the odds on were still that he passes if not by fifty fifty vote that's broken by Mike Pence. There were a lot more people watching, and I mean all over the country how to Laurent TV's in airports and in bars and in restaurants people watching at their desk. And women, particularly particularly liberal women were engaged by what some of what they saw and saddened by hearing, Dr Ford story, and that could have some real impacts. Where how women turn out to vote in November and how they interact with their elected officials. This could have reverberating affects not just on the American judicial system, but the entirety of the American system and government not just for weeks or months, but for years or decades, I do actually totally agree with that in the short term if they want to push through and vote him in that can totally happen. But the next big thing will be what happens in the midterms. And how outraged people get as a result of whatever happens as of now they're still scheduled to vote later today. And then the earliest if possible if they do confirm Brett Kavanagh could happen early next week. That's right. We'll be watching all the very closely ginger Gibson, political reporter for Reuters. Thank you very much for following this with us. Thanks for having me.
"brett kevin" Discussed on KOMO
"Will work out. Well for the judge in the investigation will put any doubts about Brett Kevin ought arrest before he's confirmed. Komo's Patrick wins spoke with a former FBI agent about what this investigation could look like former FBI agent, David Gomez. He told me that these special presidential inquiries or spins they usually take thirty sixty upwards of ninety days this time around investigators will have just seven, but he told me the bureau he has full faith in them that they will have confidence and be capable of this in-depth study into Brett cabinet. This is the full court press. So to speak for the FBI, David Gomez twenty seven year veteran of the FBI knows exactly what the bureau is tasked with in. What will be the seventh background check on judge. Brad kavanagh. The FBI is. Between a rock and a hard place. So to speak in this investigation. They have to go to extrordinary. Efforts to make sure that they are seen as impartial senators from both sides of the aisle. We'll wait the nation will watch as agents probe into allegations by Dr Christine Blasi Ford that she was sexually assaulted by cavenaugh in highschool allegations cavenaugh has repeatedly denied truth lies somewhere in between. And that's what the FBI is going to be looking for Gomez regional agents from Baltimore and DC will work round the clock in the limited probe of the judge who could ship the supreme court to the right for generation, though, Gomez said the bureau will not be swayed by the investigations implications instead focusing simply on the facts, I would want to try to find that house and then working backwards. Find out who live there in one thousand nine hundred eighty two Gomez told me bureau, investigators will likely use this pneumonic for their line of questioning.
Key senator demands FBI probe as panel backs Trump nominee
"Caused by Senator Jeff flake who demanded a special FBI probe in return for his support advancing. The supreme court nomination of Brett Kevin I think it would be. Proper to delay the four vote for up to but not more than one week in order to let the FBI continue to do an investigation limited in time and scope to the current validations that are there with that the committee voting along party lines eleven to ten to advance the nomination of Cavanaugh to the full Senate. But there will be an FBI investigation into sexual assault charges against Cavanaugh no longer than one week presumably, then the full Senate would consider a vote right now on sure whether the GOP has enough votes.
"brett kevin" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland, a Cumulus station. Now, Amazon Alexa, opened the case of oh skill vote. ABA demands a halt. I'm Elliot Francis. The Senate Judiciary committee is planning an initial committee vote on Brett Kevin how's nomination this morning? This after a day of dramatic testimony from cavenaugh and Christine blassie Ford who accused the judge of sexual assault. Phil Manningly reports if they don't have the votes on the committee, Saint majority leader Mitch McConnell telling members behind closed doors, I'm told they're going to move forward to the floor right now or procedural vote is tentatively planned for Saturday at new so what does this all knee? Well, at this point in time, Republicans do not have the votes to confirm cavenaugh Republicans could have votes to confirm Brett Kappa. There's a couple of Democrats who may vote with them as well. But those votes haven't committed yet the American Bar Association is demanding that the committee hoped the consideration of nominee brick Canada. And a letter sent to committee chairman Chuck Grassley overnight. Organization leaders say they wanna pause into an FBI investigation is complete claiming an appointment to the supreme court is too important to rush the vote. Money, economists and public policy makers have been expressing concern that terrorists would put the brakes on economic growth globally. And in the US economy had been growing at a very robust rate in recent years so much so that the World Trade Organization forecasted that global growth would be at four point four percent this year and four percent next year while they've now revised those figures downward saying global trade growth would be three point nine percent this year and three point seven percent in two thousand nineteen the reason for the downgrade is not surprising tariffs in a written statement, the WTO said some of the downside risks. It had warned of an April had materialized a broad spectrum of economists have been warning that tariffs would have a negative impact on both the US and global economies. Steve kastenbaum. New had. Jim Hackett says the Trump administration's tariffs on imported steel and aluminum will cost the company.
"brett kevin" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"I news time four twenty. We're now going back to Fox News and their coverage of the Senate Judiciary committee hearing involving allegations against judge Brad Kavanagh that committee still in recess but let's dip back into Fox News from a fight. In fact, he relishes a fight. And I think that judge cavenaugh is taking the tone that the president is probably very pleased to see it's a tone similar in the president talked about this yesterday in his own news conference. Win acusations from women who have come up against him. Well, he has and he's often ninety spoken about that. But even if we could just for a moment Jared bring in the Russia investigation, this special counsels Russia investigation, the president said he's not involved in any way has never been involved in any way, an obstruction. He calls it fighting back, and he says, and I fight back hard, and I don't make any excuses for doing. So so that's the president's tact tactic a win. He is facing an onslaught of criticism and ITO I think that judge Kavanagh's essentially taking patriot out of a President Trump's playbook when attacked you attack back. The question, of course, becomes the significance of this hearing. And obviously we came on this morning talking about the significance of this hearing. Because. We count it. Now, we believe there's probably only a handful of senators who who are undecided on the fate of Brett Cavanaugh and people around the president may really like this this tack that Brett Kevin has taken. I think it's unclear what maybe some of these other senators stink. Well, that's the key. So although it's playing extremely well with the president's allies his supporters his base, and we've spoken about who those people are in the president's inner circle here at the White House, Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Sanders. The big question is how is it playing with those undecided? Republican senators who ultimately will have a vote on judge capital. How's it playing with Susan Collins? How's it playing with Lisa Murkowski of Alaska with Jeff flake, who's actually on the Senate Judiciary committee vote as soon as tomorrow, and he may have to vote as you mentioned as soon as tomorrow because that is when the vote is scheduled and so that'll be the first test for judge Cavin all to see whether or not his performance versus that of the performance. And I don't use that in a pejorative way. But the way he's portrayed himself in this hearing has fared with members of the committee with members of the Senate with those who are essentially deciding his future. So we we have talked about this these exchanges. What one thing that has also been talked about a lot of particularly by Democrats. Of of the FBI investigating these claims coming up with some sort of fact, finding report is a way maybe the listening to Fox News as coverage of that testimony part of the special Senate hearing on the allegations by Christina Blasi Ford against judge break Cavanaugh, we'll take a quick break and come back for more testimony from the judge w O AI news time, four twenty three news anytime at W O.
Senate investigators asked Kavanaugh about 2 new claims of sexual assault
"Kavanagh's denying to new allegations of sexual misconduct tonight hours before he and one of his accusers will testify before the Senate Judiciary committee CBS news, Stephen Dorsey reports President Trump lashing out as CBS news confirms senators probing, new and Nana. Accusations of inappropriate behavior by supreme court nominee. Brad Kavanagh very dangerous period in our country. And it's being perpetrated. By some very evil people. Some of them are Democrats. I must say Cavanaugh says he never sexually assaulted anyone while saying he may withdraw Kavanagh's nomination. If he finds the claims believable, the president continues to defend him. Judge Brett Kevin has been for many years. One of the most respected people in Washington Cavanaugh will testify tomorrow along with one of his accusers to the Senate Judiciary committee
"brett kevin" Discussed on 850 WFTL
"Com that's energy spelled backwards. Case you didn't know Thursday's going to kind of be a pretty big day on the hill. There could be two things going on there. Thursday, you could actually have rod Rosenstein meeting with the president. He's the deputy attorney general, and we'll see what had yesterday was such a mess. Claes resigning. He's firing. He's not going to resign. He's going. He wants to be fired CNN goes, oh, if it actually Rosenstein gets in the same room Trump he won't fire him because he doesn't he doesn't like firing people face to face. Oh, I disagree with that. That's all about they don't want Trump firing eighty buddy. All the setup. So that they can impeach him. He's gone crazy. He's firing people left and right. It's all begun by him right away. So the other thing is then you've got this hearing that possibly they could just vote and put Brett Kevin on the supreme court on Thursday. If she doesn't show up that's it because he basically testified last night until yesterday even before we went on the air. You were saying this woman that never gonna show and now she's already questioning the process for Thursday. Oh, you've, you know, white Republican men could better go to question questioner that look right? So they go. Okay. We'll bring it a female attorney. And like, no, no. We don't want that either. So anyway. There's no there's really no advantage to them. Having her sit in that seat and face questions because they have nothing corroborated, and if she doesn't show up and they vote without her forever. They'll just say they totally ignored her it put this sexual predator on the bench. It's what that's the whole game game here, and they can impeach him to from the bag. I didn't know you could impeach supreme court justices and everybody, this is asinine. The whole thing is a delay game all of it. It's a it's a farce. It's actually scary us a man should be very afraid Honeyman should be afraid husband or son. Let me tell you something. I the joke always was when I wound up having two girls. Probably you the same which was all you're going to be in trouble. You gotta watch out for everybody. I wouldn't want to have boys right now. Them into the world. It's an attack mode against that. I'm sorry, Caucasian, boys. It's what it is. You're right. Corona. Hawaii. Yeah. Well, she told all your fault. She told all men to just shut up member that was nine member. If someone's at all women shut up. I mean, goodness. Oh boy. No mention just the way it is today. The American male is totally emasculated or targeted. Yeah. There's there's no. Every day here. There's no reason for you to use for you. We totally disagree with that hallway. Always. I'm at home. You're still here. Yeah. Then they go home and the that again, we need you. Let me love you. Sure. Hey, by the way, the cavenaugh saying here, here's another side of his alma mater. Right yale..
China demands US cancel arms sale to Taiwan
"News in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. Judge Brett Kevin all vows to fight for confirmation to sit on the US supreme court in wake of to sexual misconduct allegations by former classmate from high school and college in a Fox News interview Cavanagh again denied ever sexually assaulting anyone. I'm not gonna let false accusations us out of this process. Cavanaugh says he's looking for fair process to defend his integrity and to clear his name. He and one of his accusers are set to testify at a Senate hearing on Thursday, President Trump is not saying whether he plans to fire deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein, but says he hopes to find out what's going on
"brett kevin" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"News Radio seven hundred w ELL jelly Cincinnati. The five thirty report. I'm Allison Wyant, and I Brian Cole. Breaking now, Dr Christine Ford, the woman accusing supreme court nominee, Brad, Kavanagh and sexual assault. He set to testify now on Thursday before the Senate Judiciary committee, even though some members of the committee seemed to have their minds made up before the testimony ABC's supreme court contributor, Kate. Shell says it's still too soon to predict exactly how the committee members will vote. It does feel like at least a handful of them, and that would be enough to tip this thing one way or another haven't yet decided how plan to vote that obviously includes Susan Collins of Lisa Murkowski to Republican women who are really the critical votes here. But it sounds like as many as seven senators might be in play not totally clear if that other Republicans, but if even to are in play that's enough, and it feels like they might still be in play. Now new allegations of misconduct from a second woman of heightened tension, surrounding the high stakes hearing ranking democrat of the Senate Judiciary committee wants Brett Kevin is nomination to the supreme court. On hold ABC's. Daria Albinger, explains. Why California Senator Dianne Feinstein's request? Is it a letter to the committee's chair Iowa Republican Chuck Grassley now that a second woman has publicly accused Cavanaugh of sexual misconduct. Grassley says Senate Democrats again withheld information from the committee releasing it at a politically opportune moment that Republicans will attempt to evaluate the new claims. He adds he hasn't heard yet from Jebara Ramirez. The woman in the New Yorkers reporting, nor from attorney Michael avenue who claims to have information pertinent to the committee's consideration of Kavanagh. Daria Albinger, ABC news. Now, the latest traffic and weather together from the UCLA traffic center at quoting to US news. Westchester hospital offers more high performing specialty services than any hospital in the region highways off to a rough start with the wet roads. This morning already an accident. Southbound seventy five just after you come off of the brain Spence bridge, northbound seventy five running to bid heavy for this time of the morning.
Senate Judiciary Committee, Supreme Court and Brett Cavanaugh discussed on Public Affairs Events
"Three eight tentative agreement has been reached for the Senate Judiciary committee to hear testimony. Thursday from supreme court nominee Brett Cavanaugh and the woman accusing him of sexual assault from decades ago, a person close to this situation says it lawyers for Christie blazey Ford and bipartisan representatives, the committee came to a tentative agreement earlier other terms of the public hearing will be negotiated tomorrow. Many details about the hearing such as who testify I and how many cameras would be allowed in the chamber are still unresolved CBS's. Ed O'Keefe says both sides are proceeding. Cautiously of great concern on all sides about how this whole situation is handled. There's concerns would echo too closely. What happens to Anita hill and Clarence Thomas back in October nineteen ninety one he was being considered supreme court and she came forward with accusations. At the last moment both of them to this day, still very bitter and resentful of how the whole process played out vice-president Mike Pence while speaking to a group of evangelical activists expressed his support and confidence in Brett Kevin away. Some Democrats have conducted themselves. During
75 women gather to show support for their friend, Brett Kavanaugh
"Dozens of women who say they've known Brett Kevin are defending him amid a sexual assault allegation that threatens to derailed is supreme court confirmation. I'm here to tell you about the breadth Cavanaugh. I have known for thirty eight years Meghan, McCain was among about seventy five women talking about their old friend, Washington news conference a man who was in high school and is to this day, a gentleman of the highest calibre, Kathy. Martin worked with him in the White House. Pratt cavenaugh is a good man who is incapable of mistreating anyone the common thread from Sarah Fagin, and others cavenaugh simply could not have committed sexual assault. The allegation being leveled against him is false saga megani? Washington tonight. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell announced that there is no agreement with Christine four Kavanagh's accuser to testify. He reiterated that there will be a vote on the nomination Monday. Unless a deal with Ford
"brett kevin" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"Also has some questions about why they failed to uncover these kinds of allegations during the background check. It's in their interest right now. I'm gonna keep saying this until will until this whole. Is over. It's actually a cluster, but I can't say that on the air. Even when the FBI is is doing a background investigation. To fulfill FBI background investigations here. Six FBI investigations or background checks for Brett Kevin. You're only required to report all of your activities. Beyond the age of eighteen. There's a reason for that. One. If you were fewer convicted of something at the age of sixteen or seventeen there's a juvenile. That's confidential. We recognized that youth are stupid. Well, we also recognize the politicians are stupid. But we recognize that youth are immature will politicians you're mature to we recognize that youth brains are not fully developed, but I'm well politicians aren't fully developed either. But we decide we separate politicians from youth and the FBI even if they had done the most thorough background check in the history of the universe. This would not have been discovered. Because it occurred. When he was eighteen. Seventeen years old. She was fifteen. I just. Just a big giant plus? How about that? You're listening to the Michael Brown show..
Ford lawyers say she is open to testifying, but not Monday
"Women accusing the supreme court nominee Brett Kevin of sexual assault. Breaking go. She'd be willing to testify but not on Monday, Christine, Bazi forts attorney says the insistence of Senate Republicans that she testify before the Senate Judiciary committee on Mondays. Arbitrary Monday is the day set by the committee to hear from Ford and Brett Cavanaugh Ford's lawyer says her client will testify probably next week under terms that are fair and which ensure her safety, Dr Ford and her family have received death threats and had to go into hiding since she first came forward with her allegation an allegation the cavenaugh strongly denies Linda
"brett kevin" Discussed on KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO
"One zero six. This is your next indepth. I Mike Simpson. Charles Feldman real she testify Monday or not if she testifies Monday will he come face to face with her or not. But as the reality show type congressional confrontation between a supreme court nominee and the women accusing him of sexual assault takes shape or not. Here's something to think about in the end will it all matter or not we'll go in depth? Also, they haven't even walked into their first classroom where met their first teacher yet. One study says California's children are already falling behind and may not catch up. We take a look later on the show cashing in on home cooking. Lots of Californians are doing it. New law may mean more home cooked meals for all of us sounds nice sounds filling. But wire some people feeling burned. We'll go in depth on that. And you eat more. Maybe you need new gadgets like the Fitbit or the apple watch to help you keep track of your health or maybe a whole lot of those. That means we'll be a nation of hypochondriacs will take a look also he took more than two centuries. Bus a great maritime mystery. It has been solved, but first an attorney for the women accusing supreme court nominee. Brett cavenaugh have sexual assault says her client will not testify without an FBI investigation. I President Trump standing behind his pick. But says he doesn't want to rush the confirmation process, but questions now being raised about just how committed Mr. Trump is to his high court selection joining us as Adam lip tech. He covers the United States Supreme court for the New York Times. You know, the the main question on my mind atom is in the end as far as the Republican agenda as far as Mr. Trump's agenda will it make one bit of difference. Even if somehow Mr. Cavanaugh ends up pulling out of it or gets disqualified or the president drops him. They're just going to go down that list at the federalist society together and pick somebody. That's like minded, aren't they? Yeah. That's almost certainly true. The only question is timing. Let's assume the process drags out. Let's assume the Senate flips in the midterms the atmosphere becomes a little different. But you're quite right to say that judge Cavanaugh is ideologically in the same places the twenty five other people President Trump put out on his early lists. And whether it's him or some other Trump appaling t the supreme court's direction will shift to the right, regardless of who it is. So that being said or any of those other twenty-five names, you know, floating out trial balloons, saying if this doesn't work out of here. I'm ready. Well, some of their supporters are, but the Trump administration's attitude is our plan. A is Brett Kevin our plan B is bred Kevin they are certainly not sending out any signals, and they would be foolish to do. So that they're going back to the drawing board. But there were people who have their favorites. Not in the next candidate might will be a woman because that's almost the only way to assuredly. It yourself. Against a me to sort of claim in a favorite of many social conservatives is a former Notre Dame professor now federal judge in Chicago named Amy Cody Barrett. So I've been trying to figure out all morning, which side Republicans or Democrats get the most benefit if there's a delay because of an FBI investigation that might take Bruno's how long before there's a vote, and if the Republicans gained by that delay, the democrat who who gains from this the politics are complicated. But I would think that in general Democrats are looking for delay Republicans. You're looking for prompt action anything Democrats can do to keep the seat open for the short term for the long term. They're going to think is in their interests and Republicans very much want to get your cabin on the supreme court bench, which of course returns into action on the first Monday October on October first. So they start hearing cases and it's much easier for conservatives. To get their way. If there are nine justices on the court rather than eight is there any danger for the Republicans right now with this kind of take it or leave it situation saying, look, we're giving you the opportunity Monday is we're going to do this. And that's what that's what we're saying. Is that gonna come off as bullying too to some voters to some voters? Yes. But on the other hand, they have generally treated, Dr Ford with respect they have cancelled the vote that was gonna take place tomorrow. They've offered to have a second hearing, which is quite unusual. So it's not clear that all voters are going to say, they're real roading her, and she shirt lawyer did after all early in the week on television say she's prepared to testify, and there's not that much information beyond what she's going to testify to that the FBI could uncover. So you could click the question on his head and ask whether Democrats might not feel some heat for not simply. Going forward. Letting her say her piece is it your sense that the Republicans are very worried kind of worried or sort of taking the attitude now that maybe this won't be as bad as they thought. If she doesn't end up testifying the Republicans are likely to weather this storm. It looked pretty dangerous just a few days ago, but without testimony they will probably vote around out of committee very early next week and probably vote him out of community and improbably get him confirmed by the end of the month. So I think Republicans are breathing easier today than they were a couple of days ago was also the overture now, we'll come to California and talk to you there in private you don't have to come here. Yeah. So you can do that as posturing, but they could have taken a much harder line. They're saying to her we want to hear your story. We'll hear your story in whatever setting you want to do it. But we want to do it soon, and that in the spectrum of how reasonable you're going to be that's a more reasonable than they could've been, you know, I was reading actually I think it was in your paper this morning comparisons with the clear. Thomason UNITA hill. Episode what twenty seven years ago where the FBI conducted an investigation and something like three days, but something like this which goes back, so many more years. I think than the episode involving Anita hill and Clarence Thomas could reasonably be expected to conduct a thorough investigation in three days. Not clear not clear who even talk to. I mean, we're talking about an incident somewhere in Bethesda Maryland at our house. We don't know where it was on a date. We don't know what it was it's fairly hard to dig into that. There were very few people with direct knowledge of the matter. We know three of their names. The as a podcast by just downloading the radio dot com app on your smartphone. When k next in-depth continues, President Trump's slamming again, his attorney general. Yeah. That Di hi this is when posting on most jobs.
Julie Chen Officially Exits The Talk
"KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk. It's morning. I'm Jennifer Jones Lee the stories we're watching in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Senators have scheduled public testimony for supreme court nominee Brett, Kevin Kavanagh and the woman
"brett kevin" Discussed on KCBS All News
"Move all this stuff. All the stuff is substantial large tents shower trailer porta potty amenities that have set this village apart from other homeless encampments supporters vow. They will not go away until the city or the county finds then the land for a sanctioned camp site to help the thousands of people sleeping on the streets in San Jose. Matt Bigler KCBS bay area professor is willing to appear before congress over her claims of sexual misconduct by the president supreme court nominee as KCBS. Reporter Holly tells us a Senate committee vote on Brett Kevin is scheduled for this Thursday, the lawyer for Christine blazey Ford says the Palo Alto university psychology, professor is willing to tell her story. Publicly before the Senate Judiciary committee about heart Cavanaugh, allegedly pinned her to a bed groped her and tried to take her clothes off during a party in high school Cavanaugh says it's not true and plans to refute it before the judiciary panel Hastings law. Professor Rory little telling KCBS, I don't think we know where this is going to land because the cultural moment is a very strong moment with the sort of metoo movement and allegations of sexual assault on women he says a questionable pass derailed. The nineteen eighty-seven supreme court nomination of Douglas Ginsburg, but sexual misconduct allegations did nothing to stop the confirmation of Justice. Clarence Thomas, Anita hill came forward and said that she had been personally victimized by certain sexual innuendoes at least from Justice Thomas. And there were immediately riveting hearing on national TV even before that vote, but he was confirmed. So we'll see whether this can have a similar effect. Holly Kwan KCBS among the clean air Bill signed by governor Brown and his climate summit of. Package designed to promote electric cars and make them more accessible to lower income commuters. KCBS reporter Doug sovereign has the details of a change in the states. Carpool sticker law. Governor Brown signed four bills by state Senator. Ricardo Lara hooting one that will grand new car pool. Stickers to use electric cars bought or leased by anyone making no more than eighty percent of California's median income or about fifty five thousand dollars a year. The sticker is a really powerful incentive. And so as I was doing my research. I said, you know, we we keep talking about these million cars that we need to get on the road that the governor has committed us to well, we cannot do that without offering FM incentive to moderate to low income communities. Laura says instead of subsidizing Tesla's now the state will stimulate the used market and give lower income drivers equal access to going solo in the carpool lane. Another Bill signed by the governor creates a rebate for buying replacement electric car batteries and another will promote the adoption of electric school bus. In San Francisco. Doug, sovereign KCBS. A thirty year old man is Dan struck and killed by vehicle and unincorporated Santa Cruz county last night CHP says he was killed in the area of Cora lead us road. Just after nine o'clock, a twenty seven year old woman was driving two thousand sixteen Honda fit southbound and for some reason veered off the roadway to the ride and struck the pedestrian who was pronounced dead at the scene. The thirty year olds name has yet to be released. The Honda driver was not arrested following the crash. The cause of the collision remains under investigation. Officers have not determined whether alcohol or drugs were factors in the case. Just ahead on KCBS.
"brett kevin" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"Occurred last week to put a really foul mood where the Cavanaugh confirmation hearings for Brett Kevin ought to be the next associate Justice of the United States Supreme court. It was depressing to me. I mean, literally depressing to me. Not because I'm not accustomed to the shenanigans that go on in Washington DC, not because I vaguely remember Brett Kevin off from his times in the White House members wife, Ashley more. So she was President Bush's personal secretary. Ashley's well, the sweetest nicest people ever meet in your entire life. And if the spouses written he ever any reflection on their husbands. That must be one hell of a guy because Ashley was just everybody loved Ashley. The depressing part of the hearings. Was the inability of chairman Grassley or the capitol police. To keep the protesters from interrupting the hearings. I mean at some point. And I know it's not fair to those who work protesting, but at some point don't you just clear the hearing room. At some point. Don't you just say, I mean, a judge would do that in the courtroom. At some point a judge would just tell the bailiff until law enforcement to just clear the courtroom. The lawyers the plaintiffs and the defendants are going to be left in this room. In addition to the court reporter, and the bailiff from the judge and the rest of you are out of here. Chuck Grassley could have done the same thing. We could have all watched it on television. It was wall-to-wall coverage. So for all the little minions and all the little wannabes all the reporters and everybody else that was filling up what public space was available. They would not have been denied their ability to watch the confirmation hearing. They will just had to have gone somewhere where there was a television. And trust me. I don't know whether it was in the Russell Hart Senate office building on wherever the hearing was being held there. Probably about two thousand televisions per floor. Plenty of TV's to watch the confirmation hearings. You do know that the protesters, including Linda, Sarsour, the anti Semite. Radical islamist. Also arrested. They had all been given Senate passes offices. So they could get in li- not giving line. So they can get seat. The rest of us minions. I didn't do it. But people who wanted to get one of the couple of rows that was reserved for the public to stand in line. The Senate pass from you know, camera Harris or Cory Booker or Dianne Feinstein. You already have seat. I think there were. Seventy I forget the number. We was a large number of people who were hold out and arrest. Do you suppose they will be like those people that were arrested during the inauguration for disrupting for protesting illegally? Do you think that they'll ever face a day in court? Because all of those people. All of their charges dropped. I find it depressing. There's no civility and what the Democrats were doing. Was surreal. It was real. And it was weird. And probably one of the weirdest ones was. Camel harris. She's the latest to jump on the deception shuttle. To the White House in twenty twenty. She tweeted an eleven second video of Brett Kevin in which he says, quote, filling out the form would make them complicit in the provision of the emotion inducing drugs that they were as a religious matter objected to. This is what she tweeted filling out the form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion inducing drugs that they were as a religious matter objected to. I know this is hard to follow on radio. But listen closely to what the judge was accused of say filling out the form would make them complicit filling out the form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion inducing drugs that they were as a religious matter objected to. So Harris takes her deceptive editing to ethical levels by saying that Kavanagh's language, which is not actually his language at all. Was dog whistle going after birth control. Speaking of which one of the protesters that was pulled out of the hearing room. I don't know whether it was her actual menstrual blood or not. But you can see the you can find it all over the interwebs. As she's dragged kicking and screaming with her short shorts on her legs spread as far apart. As you can imagine her shorts are covered in blood as our her legs. And of course, she screaming that it's the menstrual blood that she will, you know, or blood from her vagina or something that will result when you know, Brad, Kavanagh outlaws abortion, and they'll have to start using coathangers or something. They've been mailing. Susan Collins of Maine coathangers these people are sick. They're truly sick. But back to camera Harris. She'll she tweets this Cavanaugh chooses his words, very carefully. And this is a dog whistle for going after birth control. He was nominated for the purpose of taking away a woman's constitutionally protected right to make her own healthcare decisions. Make no mistake. This is about punishing women. Set aside for a moment that the right is not going after birth control missing from this clip or the key words just before the clip starts. Remember, here's what she tweeted. Filling out the form would make them complicit filling out the form with make them complicit. Here's the entire statement. It was a technical matter of filling out a form in that case. They said filling out the form would make them complicit. Oh, it was a technical matter with filling out a form in that case. But they said filling out the form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion inducing drugs that they were as a religious matter objected to. She actually cuts out the they said portion. Why is that important because the judge was simply referring to the the Catholic priests for life who had sued for religious, exemption, toolbar Macaire. And he was fighting the argument that they made in their brief they said. Is what she left out. It was a technical matter of filling out a form in that case. They said filling out the form would make them complicit. They said that's not what she tweeted filling out the form would make them complicit. Oh. Oh. So camera Harris took the video terminals comments and cut off mid sentence. And only left the parts that indicated Cavanaugh was alluding.
"brett kevin" Discussed on WCBS Newsradio 880
"Pensacola, Florida is blamed on storm to Senate Judiciary chair. Chuck Grassley says the Senate could confirm supreme court nominee Brett Kevin I in time for the new court term that begins October first and three the forty four year old man who disappeared during Monday night's West Indian day parade was found last evening in good condition along flatbush avenue, family members say Anthony Abraham's has the mental capacity of a five year old the second span of the new tappan Zee bridge will open the Saturday her speeder Haskell with a look at what to expect the initial traffic. Shift will move four lanes of Westchester. Bam. Vehicles off of the Rockland down span. Governor Cuomo's his drivers don't have to worry about a toll hike for now. So there will be no change through twenty twenty study will determine what will cost to pay for the four billion dollar project. Because if you look at the tolls now, there's no real pattern today. Why is the verrazano one one call another 'cause then Tri borough nother calls from this is another cost. Matthew Triskel is executive director of the true authority. He says the new bridge has wide lanes in emergency shoulders accorded distinction between and I'm sure many of you remember the old tappan Zee bridge where you're lanes are very very narrow. There are no shoulders bit of a nightmare to go. Over a Westchester. Ben bustling will open this fall. From the new tappan Zee, Peter hence goal, w CD.
Hundreds march in peaceful protests in Charlottesville with police in riot gear nearby
"The city of Charlottesville Virginia has been placed under a state of emergency on this one year, anniversary of last year's white supremacist violence yesterday police in riot. Gear confronting hundreds of peaceful protesters marching. Against hate this, protester explains why he was there as. Mike privileged white people on we are the. Ones who are the safest out here and so. To feel that sort of fear against the city speaks. To how prevalent it has everywhere but also big star responsibility to be here, today in Washington the principle organizer of last year's unite the right, event we'll, be holding a white civil rights rally and police are preparing for. Counter protesters the anniversary. Of the Charlottesville demonstration hasn't gone unnoticed Noticed by President Trump who's vacationing in New Jersey CBS. News correspondent Tom Foty has more reading from his New Jersey golf resort Mr. Trump says the riots in Charlottesville a. Year ago resulted in senseless death and division he says we must come. Together as. A nation. And adds he, condemns all, types of racism, and acts of violence. His call peace to all
Florida police officer dies a week after being shot
"One FOX News Radio I'm Karen McHugh following. Friday's report the Commerce Department says the economy grew four point one, percent in the second quarter the Treasury Secretary sees a rosy future, we can only project a. Couple, years, in the future but, I think. We're well on this path for several years so I don't I don't think this is a one or, two year. Phenomenon I think we definitely are in a period of four four or five percents estate four or. Five years of sustained three percent growth, at least Steve Mnuchin on Fox News Sunday the mice president sounding confident the President Trump supreme court. Pick judge Brett Cavanaugh will be confirmed as a proven record that's what the, president made this nomination about that's the message will carry two Republicans and Democrats in the Senate and we remain confident. That that before the fall is out judge Brett Cavanaugh will be Justice. Brett Kevin Mike Pence on FOX. Fox News we report you decide NewsRadio, nine seventy WFL a it's ten two. On the Sunday morning a Fort Myers. Police officer shot in the line of duty last Saturday night has, passed. Away officer Adam jobbers Miller have. Been in critical condition after being shot in the, head on July twenty first while. Chasing suspect accused of stealing cell phone. Your gas station statement released last night governor Rick Scott, offered his condolences for officer jobbers Miller and the law enforcement. Community in Lee. County hundreds of Markey's mcglockton friends and family gathered at Silopi. Baptist church and Largo to say goodbye to the man, shot to death in a, convenience store parking lot just over a week ago. Mcglockton girlfriend Brittany Jacobs arguing with the. Shooter, Michael Drako over her being parked in a handicapped space. Mcglockton is. Seen on surveillance video shoving take it to the. Ground before he was shot Drake has not. Been arrested while Saturday was about remembering mcglockton his brother-in-law's turning his, attention to what happens next what has turned into a controversial case, we don't know what the. Future, holds, we don't know if, we'll be. Hit Amara the later Works what you know. What we won't next his Justice democratic candidate, for governor Andrew gillum is expected to speak at a town hall meeting about mcglockton case and the stand your ground law.
"brett kevin" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"The founder and president of the alliance for justice organization opposes the nomination of brett kevin offer the supreme court gonna learn more about why and what she hopes to do about it thanks for being our guest thank you for having me to reporters we'll be asking questions this week chiffon us covers congress for the wall street journal and marc sherman who's making his first appearance on newsmakers covers the supreme court for these associated press and shivani of the first question set the stage for us what is the significance of this nomination and why does it feel so much more monumental than that of the prior nominee neal gorsuch it feels more monumental in fact it is because brad kavanagh's being considered for the seat held by anthony kennedy who on some very significant issues set himself apart from some of his conservative colleagues on the court on abortion on lgbtq issues on a juvenile right so he was considered to be the swing on the supreme court neal gorsuch when he was being considered for the supreme court was up for antonin scalia seat hard right conservative anthony kennedy more the man in the middle and this therefore this has taken on much much greater significance it's also taken on greater meaning i think because the president has laid out very specifically in fact while he was running for his office then in fact if elected he would appoint an individual who met to very sp specific criteria one he was looking for someone who was against the affordable care act and to he was specifically looking for an individual who would oppose roe versus wade so this president has himself set out a very volatile process by setting out criteria outsourcing the choice to to outside groups heritage action federal society and coming up with a nominee who on a number of issues related to american life is shown us that he would turn the clock back given the stakes that you have laid out from your perspective did democrats have realistic chance of stopping this nominee i would say democrats and republicans have a realistic chance of stopping this nomination at the moment really the only thing we know which is significant about brad kavanagh are one we know what donald trump was looking for to we're and others as well are reading those three hundred legal opinions that he's written so we know what is record is and our belief is that once the american people understand his record once they hear and read an opportunity to review the thousands of pages of documents describing his work with ken starr independent counsel once they have an opportunity to review his records when he was in the white house as in the white house counsel's office staff secretary and other offices they're just at a trove of documents and our belief is once the american people have an opportunity to come to understand his full record they will convince they'll persuade they'll reach out to their senators both on the democratic side and republican side and asked them to oppose cavanaugh i want to turn to one of the issues that's gotten some attention already in the process and that's the idea of kevin is view of presidential power and your groups view that he won't stand up to donald trump i guess particularly in relation to the investigation into russian meddling in the two thousand sixteen election we know from the past that the clinton appointees voted against the president in the paula jones case the nixon appointees voted against the president in the watergate tapes case why are you persuaded that a justice cavenaugh wouldn't stand up to donald trump if if it comes to that so mark it goes back to brett its own record it's interesting when he worked with the independent counsel ken starr back in the nineteen ninety s he aggressively sought president clinton's record in fact he went to court three times to get access to president clinton's records and he he fought really hard to get the president to turn over a whole slew of information interestingly when he went to work for president bush right after the clinton administration interestingly one of the first things brek kavanagh did was pushed for an executive order that would have shielded presidential papers george bush's presidential papers even though there was a law requiring those papers to be released so it's his early action with the bush administration and from then on he's taken the position the president should be exempt from criminal prosecutions investigations he's talked about the extraordinary power that the.
Group to fly Confederate flag again at South Carolina capitol
"Eight of the twelve boys trump with their soccer coach in a flooded cave in northern thailand no safe and soon efforts will begin to rescue the remaining members of that team correspondent tom foreman says the young men are being guided through an extraordinarily hostile environment you don't have exact mapping of the cave but by some accounts a quarter of it still remains fully submerged in water that's the equivalent of eleven football fields we don't know if it's in one place or further out there but that's a long way to take anyone underwater and bear in mind in some places we're still talking about going through openings at are described as no bigger than a single human being remaining members of that team include four boys and there are a don't coach grew still angry that south carolina pulled the confederate flag from the state house is again temporarily raising that banner at the capital the south carolina secessionist party says it will fly the confederate flag on a temporary poll for several several hours later today it's the third anniversary of the state removing the confederate flag that flew at the state house for fifteen years that decision prompted by the killing of nine black worshipers at a charleston church president trump has tapped brett kevin ours has nominated to replace retiring justice anthony kennedy on the supreme court phil mattingly says kevin are will begin to meet with senators later today president mike pence will join judge cavenaugh in his first meetings with senators and these aren't necessarily pro forma meetings these closed door meetings may be crucial to how senators ended up deciding where they're going after that there will be the senate judiciary committee holding a hearing and then towards the end of september i'm told will be the final vote i think the key issue right now is when you talk to democrats it's all about health care and abortion rights when you talk to republicans it's all about keeping things on trenton will not hold a referendum on the final deal to leave the european union or seek to delayed sex date that word from prime minister theresa may after two top cabinet ministers quit i'm elliot francis eight twenty w cpt widows brings ninety two point five w cpt fm tacoma and online w cpt eight twenty dot com how does he said.
"brett kevin" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"This is newsradio nine fifty wwe news time to thirty two as we heard from cbs news president donald trump has introduced his supreme court nominee brett kevin as a judge has judge and cited his proven commitment to equal justice under the law mr trump announcing cavenaugh as his pick last night on prime time television and judge brad kavanagh will likely be confirmed by narrow margin in the senate just in time for the new supreme court session in october that's according to university of michigan law professor richard friedman speaking live on wwf and he says there are only a few senate votes that are in play i mean i think after ssume that all the republicans with the possible exceptions of collins and murkowski or prochoice and mccain who may not be able to vote we'll be going for him in virtually all the democrats are gonna go against with arizona gop senator john mccain absence due to an illness republicans hold a slim fifty to forty nine edge in the senate democrats already labeling cavenaugh as too conservative politicians all across the country speaking out about the nomination from last night locally democratic congresswoman debbie dingle issued the following statement quote the supreme court vacancy matters to working men women and families this is not just an academic debate recently we saw the court upholding the discriminatory muslim ban and undermining public sector unions ability to advocate for their members if confirmed brett cavanaugh would make critical decisions about healthcare freedom of speech and religion the environment voting rights civil rights marriage equality many other issues during their lifetime appointment the administration is fighting in court against the affordable care act in pre existing conditions protections it's vital that we have an independent voice who will objectively evaluate the law meanwhile on the republican side michigan congressman bill zanga released the following statement about cavenaugh he is a highly accomplished jurist who has a strong track record of interpreting the constitution as written also enforcing the separation of powers and defending the individual liberties of all americans judge cavanaugh is a tremendous selection to the supreme court wbz news time.