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Super Bowl Week Day 1 - The Barstool House

Barstool Radio with Dave Portnoy

27:32 min | 1 year ago

Super Bowl Week Day 1 - The Barstool House

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You do his you do color to his play by play. Yeah. Yeah. He he's it's almost like Bill Walton and Dave Pasch eight-man, but rigs in whereas Zona Phoenix for the waste management. So he's sounds fun. I think he's got something. I know if I'm supposed to announce his like Bubba Watson. I think today doing something maybe even playing around a golf with them is Frankie, you know. Yeah. I was not supposed to say. I was like our big thing. Yeah. That's breaking now who's we don't know to what capacity. He's doing it. Who cares? It's like I mean, you still going to listen to it. That's what we call a tease. Yeah. So anyways. Yeah. It's a tease. So rigs is there he's flying tonight or tomorrow, and he'll be here. The rest of the week mar through the rest of the and then I gotta leave early because I have a legal activities that I do not the not monster hit not Mazda hits the Mazar it's club, which you to try to get in last night. I was too tired. We were just practicing. It's a it's a thing that's catching on people want to be part of it. You know, what sucks? I was supposed to do. You know, who is supposed to be an image. Oh, see this week was to chains as supposed to have a like we'd review with him on Tuesday. But he bailed as looking forward to that what a pussy big time. Plus it can only handle Emma? Joe who's probably scared to smoke with you. So I have other stuff. We'll get you guys involved in that. So I gotta leave early today. We gotta do though just to clear it up because we were just take a monster hit how many just one and who has supervise well video it'll it'll be online. Can we do like reviews? Yeah. Absolute one hit up. So or do you rate our hits to we rate? How are you? Right. How much he just do one monster fucking hit? Are we allowed to take Nyquil in advance? So we don't cost as much. That's how you know. You fucking took a monster hit. I don't care how much if you're not coughing. You not smoking. Do you think my vape tricks have got me in monster? It's only now we'll do that we to anyways, we're here at the bucket. Also. The original barstool radio. Yeah. Very far so radio is no FaceTime. No, hey, what happened that will Rhone you? What's LA? So you disappeared. I disappear. I don't want anymore. Basically, you my thing. Yeah. So in at all rea-, redone, what an a screw up a lot. And the Ivy. I've heard is like the best bought we could possibly be everyone said that once we've announced I also call I reverse the Ivy and bucket. So like, sometimes I think the town is the Ivy and we're at bulkhead and other times, I'm like, okay, we're at the Ivy in Buckhead. So we're here all week twelve to six, Dan and crew go twelve to two to four is Kevin Casey carabiners in then barstool radio is four to six where early for the Super Bowl, you know, that that coward. Roger goodell. Basically what he does to ensure everyone has to get early is they put media day on Monday night, which is insane. Because then all the media has to be here for tonight, we're doing radio, but a lot of people don't start getting in this leads to later in the week. We're not allowed on radio row again. So we're here which is. Better in this place will be from what I've gathered jumping as the week continues kind of the same way as before it starts a little bit and gets rolling. We have a ton of guess a ton of guess, how did that happen? Why do we have like such a good Slater guest this year? You know, I'm going to say something that I should know better. And I know they're listening in the green room the girl with the dark hair who's doing the booking. Kelli, Kelli, monster, very good. So she's just getting us a whole lineup guess, and then we always have the back and forth to with like. Yes, that we know really. Well, like, I put a Greg Olson a Blake Bortles like people who wear legitimately friends with in their PR teams. Like, we'll see we're getting the runaround. It's like, and then you just text me like, you know, when you come in, but all the usual suspects lot of guests so should be fun week in the obviously the patriots per usual in it. So it becomes a very hyped up week for me. I su- most the people here are Lanta people. I would. Yeah. So we'll do a lot of. And I don't know. I don't know if that actually means their falcon fans or not because I don't think the falcons kind of like the Rams don't have a ton of real fans. I don't think but Dobie Lauda. Oh, he's got a falcons. Oh, so they'll be all twenty eight three stuff this week too. Which is nice. So we can troll like because we. Have rent? There's no there's no such thing as a rampant. Really now. That's true. So to fact, we will pick on we'll do the twenty eight three I've said this Super Bowl to me is like the patriots verse history. Asterix also like featuring the Los Angeles Rams. You know, they're not a headline. I'm not saying that is not on the field. But that's what it feels like honestly. But I also feel like the patriots are like already just dancing in like dancing on the graves or the Rams right now like they feel like they won. I feel like the patriots fans also feel like they don't think so I rarely five thousand people coming out to like have a pep rally kind of feels like that's already the celebration. No. That's just the patriots. I think there is in. This is the big story that everyone's talking about. And I'm sure it's been talked about on the radio all day is this mentality at the patriots. And patriots fans think they're underdogs in there is this is true. And I'm going back and forth Minka kinds who I think is going to tell you. I I've never spoken with her. I think she's pretty good. I don't she hates us. I know she's friends with like the PMT crew with sometimes means you hate me. That like I don't know how that relates. But now media the media is now saying they never said the patriots or underdogs, which is just patently false. Like, we're not saying this was the Bengals or team, that's an exist. But when you go to the Super Bowl pretty much every single year like literally every year and people are saying, you're dead. You're on the road as an underdog in everyone's picking against you. That is an underdog. It's not it's not, you know, Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, but the patriots nobody was saying they were going to be here. Like, really, I think just more people are saying that you're dead than have been saying it in previous years. It's not like, but everybody's not saying, you're dead. I think for the most part people are like the patriots are still as big as they ever were. And especially the fact that they are in an oh, they I don't I think now right now. But it's all right. So you can't carry that narrative earlier we're talking about like it's not gonna earlier in the season when we lost the dolphins game. And then came back and lost the Pittsburgh that was late even I was like, wow. I may I have the video. Oh, where I actually changed. My stance to saying I expect the patriots to be in the Super Bowl too. I will not be surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. That's like. So why were you saying that at the time because they lost to later on the like what was it about the team like that? They never lose late in the season. They just don't. So we're in a row just a wins and loss losing those two games in a row. Their offense looked a little bit slower, but then Brady actually released the still here Instagram and that was right after that. I was on the beaches of Miami, probably dabbling in the Mazorra hits a club, which I tend to do there. And then I went on the beach may the video like all right? We're back to normal like Brady is right. Everyone's overreacting. But nobody took that there's video after video after video is not just cowardly max who I get max Kellerman is troll like he is. He just wants to say the wrong or he is the more. He's in the headlines like Kyle van noy who I like actually singled him out. He's like, basically just say fuck you. But he's like, basically fuck you max Kellerman. But it's not just him. It's it was clever. Rabbit is not just the clay. It's people who aren't even trying to necessarily troll or make the patriots of different in. So that underdog mentality which as a sports team. You you go to the patriots should never be underdog. I don't care for on the road and Kansas City. I don't care who they're playing as long as Belgium and Brady are there. They should be favored verse everybody play in any game that is an elimination game period because they prove they win it. They don't win every single one. But most of the time they're so. Yeah, it is an underdog and people saying Brady's Brady's Brady's gonna hand the methyl Mahomes. How many people said that that this is like the changing of the guard when you played Pat Mahomes. So the underdog thing fits, it's not just one shot. Yeah. They did open his under. It's not one hundred one shot, but people being mad. Oh, the patriots saying there underdog makes me sick. It's like what are you talking about compared to what they are? They are the underdog they really are. But they're just using that as a motivation technique. You don't think Brady believes that like people think? It. He he like he's trying to like internalize all of that. And I think it's working for him. But I just think it's transparent like everybody else sees that. He's trying to use that like he's obviously a legend. He's obviously the best quarterback that's ever played the game. But he's like needs to find other things. So I get him up. Because once you're already the greatest like what are you playing in a weird way? And you're gonna go you're you're using this analogy, but as a fan I'd say the Tom Brady fans for patriots. Like, I felt the same way like everybody who doesn't like the patriots is standing waiting like they're just waiting like I'm gonna put stake in them. There are waiting for us to lose say aha, I told you so in when it doesn't happen. It's like fuck you. We're we're still here, by the way that moment. Maybe we'll come Brady says five more years bell check. I'm not convinced isn't like cloning himself Star Wars thile. So when he dies just there's a hologram sitting on the sideline I was thinking of asking him that at like media day. I couldn't think of how. Oops. I'm not supposed to going. But anyways, where are you going? No comment retract. What was just said? Yeah, we retract it. There's a part of me. So that's what it is. So it's not just Brady like internalizing. It's the real feeling like the thing Eshelman did in the NFL films through the touchdown. Gronk. He's like you're too old. You're too old. They say like, that's not concocted. That's in the moment. That's stolen from the eagles. Last year. The two old when when eagles Jason Jason Kelsey had his speech at the end of the his parade there. Like, they say you're too old. They said you can't do this. They said this is these motivational techniques that they use against them. And I don't even I mean Brady all the way from Brady sixth everything, that's what great competitor. Do. They find something they leverage it. They get momentum's. But I don't think is made up, and I don't think the patriot fans in the players are making up. The fact that people didn't think they could do with this year in just by saying, we don't think you can do it when you're as great the greatest team of. All time. That's like, okay. How the fuck. Are. You underestimating us like we're here every year. And you're saying we're gonna not do it. Now that makes us an underdog. That's how they view it. I mean, it's the most he's ever been doubted for sherbert. He's always had. I mean, if you're trying to bring I changed it again, you know, what I mean, I went from expected from like I said expected to I generally with the patriots do not care till the postseason like I don't watch the regular season. I don't care. I know we're gonna be in the playoffs. And that's a given this year is like, oh this team is starting to look a little different till he said that. And then I went back. Yep. I was wrong for doubting for second in the Rams. That's the other question. I never know breaks. What we could do the other big question. I keep getting acids. How important is winning the game to me winning the game outside of the party? And we get another ring in the Pittsburgh aspect of it. Pittsburgh is six Super Bowls Brady now would have six tie it. There's no pressure. Like, I don't think this changes. What you look at the Brady's. Legacy does not change winning or losing this game. Really at all in my mind. Then there's more to gain than to lose more gain with a win than to lose with. There's nothing to lose like when we played you guys the eagles. The only thing that I had to lose was you guys. Like, it's an I deal with you and fuck in the bubbly gang and fuck in, you know, all the eagle people Smit eighty eighty like I go see Donovan McNabb that ping pong ball. That smitty has a brain like rocket around I deal with this. We got flags in the office. What do you want thirty? You can never take that away. Anytime. There's like we played the bears there'd be a lot of line because of the bears fan. The Rams there's nobody chirp you like as a fan getting chirped is like chirp in a weird way, it sucks because I can't be like except the rest of the country hates us. But there are no Rams fans. Have you seen anything on Twitter from like any Rams fans notch since there are not I really went to L A? There's going to be a video coming out later this week. But there are people I talked to that didn't know who the Rams were. They didn't know that their football team in Los Angeles. I saw one. Walking around with Rams gear in all the city of Los Angeles. Like, there's just no one is like is not overstated is not so Mike Super Bowl narrative low it is no one gives a fuck about the Rams Knauss Angeles. I mean, it's exciting team. I will say I'm totally distracted. Why are you wearing raiders at? But I just think it's a nice at its makes you cool. I know that's what I mean. Raiders are just like a classically cool brand are like. Oh, no chance you want to give it a shot. Joe L? Let me try. On. Better than. Oh, wow. I do look pretty good. I look like you. It changes your aura. Yeah. You look like you could be some weird producer like a red at Bros or white rapper is not that talented. But he's a big social media. You may have that's me. That's just you. A shot myself, bro. Tommy screams, producer DJ, not that good wealthy family gets gigs. Maybe that you don't deserve. Yes. That's what that is gone jazz. Well, think back I was pretty hell. No, hell, no. I need this. Are you gonna tell us when we do breaks? Let's go to break. No. I don't know that we have to have. Yeah. We we do have to go to break. All right. So we're at the Ivy in Buckhead. We'll be here all week. Come stop by hell yet. Now now that barstool radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three from the IB in Buckhead, Georgia. Who's talking about? We're back on barstool radio live from the Ivy at Buckhead. It's me Dave Caleb in Ronin rigs gets in tomorrow, Kirkman ahead and going to be joining the pro. Oh, yeah. Kirkman hand. Will be on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. So he he used to be at now is on someone else. I love Minihan law. People hate him. He's kind of lightning rod figure, but he'll be good radio. What can we expect the people who haven't listened to him? He brings the thunder. He's very opinionated. And funny guy I've known him for wild. But he'll he'll just you've just lets it. Fly does not care who he insults. What fights? Except usa. Suck Brady's dick all the time. He was afraid of him. But other than that, he's very good on radio the house. Why do questions I we haven't talked about this? And I don't know Caleb. If you wanted to talk about it off air, but I am a huge revivalists fan, and like the it's my favorite band going right now, you went to the revivalist when they're in New York. And I asked you what you thought you like I'll tell you in person. Oh, I thought so that is how did you get into revival this? So they play Nantucket all the time liked it. So I used to see them at a small little chicken box shadow packing. Norton who I'm friends with huge music guy. He'll go to New Orleans and like. Pick like very musically. Not not he won't pick cover bands for like the weekends. He'll pick music. He thinks are super talented small bands on like the rise though. I've they'll have like a trombone shorty there they'll have very musically inclined acts so he found them early. They continue to go as so I saw them before anyone knew they were basically, right? Yeah. No. The only reason I want to talk to you in person who's because I actually wanted to hear I didn't want you to Texas to me. I wanted to hear what your thoughts were on this. When they first of all, I don't like it when bands work on core into their set. That's just a personal preference. I prefer you have to desire the encore. And then they they too cocky, it's super a preplanned on core. You don't like I don't like that personally. But I know I feel like I feel I feel like every so has a plan. Oh, oh, by the way, people no punk is doing a concert or Wednesday night. Well, now, they do it didn't can even out pop punk. Our house band is doing a show. Oh here Wednesday night. I think seven pm Rhone. Yes. Seven earn later. I'm just speaking of pop punk and encores our first ever show. We in our settlers, we wrote this is where we stop and ask for an encore. And then we came out for the when we made the mass for it. Right. Which I think is a great you. You would have got it. Anyway, if you didn't ask for it. I don't know we turned ruins Mike on and we acted like we didn't know it was on ruins because we were here. Give us an enormous care. We weren't going to give you they'll go meta with it. And for thrown he's like, oh, no. Maybe they heard us, and we just ran it out revivalists, listen reviving. So I want to hear your opinion on this anyways. They come out. They have a pre planned encore. I'm not a fan. It is what it is. But I was asking my girlfriend. I was asking me. What do you think is going to be their big song because I feel like they've done it all like all the catalog of revivalists that I was familiar with. They had hit the big numbers already. So what are they gonna come out with? This is definitely a preplanned on-court. They left the lights on on stage. They come back out. And do you. Remember the song that they did? They the one I love is the first one they did gun control song that wasn't that that wasn't the one that from my concert. So this is what I thought was night to night two. They came back out on court encore they come back out. And then they they like this is a song. We like we little song. We wrote called a stop shooting us. It's about gun control with like just like the guy played guitar and he's song opinions about gun control. And then they left the stage. So he used that as a chance to just get his personal thoughts. I was I was dumped down to you like, all I. I like the revivals but just don't like their stance on gun control. I mean, do you not think that's weird story house? Guy. I want to be like I'd like to do you not think that's weird that they know? Oh a little bit as an encore. I think you just go with your best song. Okay. Your opinion on it though. I love the river. I didn't stay the core of the second night. So that's why I didn't see they played their major songs as the encore night one. Okay. And it's a weird theater because there were seats side note, let's move to the house. The house has been a big source of lightning. Rod I heard Caleb. You've got thirty minutes asleep is that I mean, that's probably more, but he was sleeping next to boot abandoned booted kept wrestling over I was the last month the house last night that should tell you about the sleeping rain. So Brett Brett book the house for those? We're in a house very close to here. How many people are in the main house? Probably fifteen or told me. Like, two bathrooms three bathrooms, not all bathrooms all bedrooms. Like, it's just beds on top beds in the basement, Frank. You said it's like prison. That's how you described it to me the way it was. I was very similar what a prison would be well, at least you have your own cell. Yeah. Yeah. We have a very small blanket. We had a just a mattress. And it was it was towed ahead. Just just mattresses stacked upon each other a lot of people saying fire fest part to. Yeah. It's longer. I have. I mean, an awesome room is is huge. It's a palatial estate. But the air conditioning situation stinks was a thousand degrees in my residents so much room to heat. I don't know. I water pressure on knock great heard. You have a bad day. I do have a day the toilet cleaner. Asshole is a good. Yeah. It's awesome. As automatic don't even have to tell it what to do. Well for that part. You do. But it's a heated seat. It knows. When you sit knows when you rise the toilets and electric factory. That's about the best thing, and there's food everywhere. So and I don't know the other house, but I'm I'm in house to I'm living like a king my own bedroom. Own my own bathroom, how far's hourly? Now, I've actually day this morning. It was about forty five minutes. All right. So that's what happened the houses. There were two houses, Tom, you're originally house want. Yeah. I. So Rome Caleb KFC fight Oberg all house two guys there. Forty five minutes away by better sleeping arrangements. So I asked you guys Caleb and Roane. And I knew caves says like you guys come in the house will arrange the best we can. But I think it's going to be bad sleeping arrangements. So that's that's what we're dealing with. Yeah. I I was like all I'm not going to get to broke down at the guys in house one. But you know, what I still get a nice bed to sleep in. And it's just honored to be here when we still are able to bro down watch moral rumble. Yeah. And that kept me up. That's the other thing my bedrooms like in the living room. So as long as somebody's awake and house one I will be awake which kinda blows how much blame are you putting on Brett because office magic Brett so stupid. I mean, I don't hate him as a person. I really don't I think he's a nice enough guy. He's a nice guy. I may be friends with them in a different lifetime. But I never want his life impacting mind. Like, I don't want him involve in any decision that could somehow affect me. And he's still somehow is. Involved in laws up to do when he worked for your company, though. I know, but we're starting like Kelly. Great right there. The Booker ten yellow awesome. So we have now like really good people's things spider. Not so good good trip. I think so it's just Brett shouldn't be involved in anything that is related to me. And he should probably look at the houses before he booked them. That would be my suggestion. Go see 'cause they do make everything look nice on Airbnb. But if a beautiful pool, and I feel bad at believe it or not I am a team player. I feel bad that everyone doesn't have bathroom. I don't want us a mind necessarily, but I feel bad late, bro. I'm sure it is too late. So ran through apart definitely sucks. But what are you gonna do as bread is bread suspension? So Brett was with the spitting chiklis guys who were out in California for a week and him and Gaz route their sales guy, and they're producing videos every twenty seconds and then just getting shit faced and drinking. And finally, why are you guys both out there? Gaz Paul came home instantly Paul's only answer to why he was out. There is like well I had to be here because one night Ryan went you didn't have hotel room. Was that me? It's like why book that's a good point is. So that was what Paul did. And Brett nobody knew what he was doing out there. He was activating the brands. So I think like for what does that mean for Bud Light? He'd be putting these Bud Light. It's into these tubs. And then he activated the brand need another guy to do looks at it. Yes activists. So I think I told them off. I think Erica, and I were both like, he's so useless. Let's just send them home and tell them it's not a party. So he's coming out later, but we're not needed the party. Well, he'll be out. He'll be out. He'll be out for for rough and rowdy, which I still think will be the best event we've ever done. It'll be a heavy hitter event. I'm excited for that. A lot of people don't land asking how to buy tickets for that. You can't it's a small relatively speaking venue. I think twenty five three thousand tickets available on they're just going to, you know, all the celebs and athletes in town to watch it, you can buy pay per view. And then we're going to have to guest announcers and things like that. So you guys will be interviewing a ton of people, and we'll have people doing the call. So it should be a fun time. We just got fitted for our tuxes between the two radio shows. Very nice looking nice. They look good. So it's going to be more of just like a party with fights just happening in the middle. Or is it going to be more of that stadium? Mike atmosphere. Everybody is watching and cheering. I think everyone's it was have you ever been? You've been a rough. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's an electric thing that even if you're in the venue, then you just get captivated by rights and start watching. But there won't be seating. It's going to be you can just float around the floor. Do whatever you want to do. So. So I'm expecting that to be great night. I really do. I really really a game changer. Yeah. It is it do you think that that's going to be are you aiming for this to be like a tradition or just see how this one goes? Like this like, this you like this to be a staple of super love it now rough and rowdy the thing. We know it's state by state on what you can get approved. I looked at the next five Super Bowls because as a patriot fan, you're always looking ahead like where we going next. What's the next team? We're gonna play or city I should say. So the next five Super Bowls after this one, by the way, is this normal Atlanta weather is it just always like kind of thirty forties around this time. People are giving me the yes, sorta I was greatly under the impression that -lanta is warmer than it was it was like seventy five I thought we were going to get a warm weather like Santa hotlanta dirty bird, but the next five Super Bowls. I'm not sure the order, I think it's Tampa Miami New Orleans LA in Scottsdale. So it's like five great cities. Weather wise after this one. So I'd love to go. I don't think is legal in California. It is legal in Florida. So we'll be there for those two for. Sure amazing. And what about you guys? What do you guys have plan this week? I know kale. You got commercials coming out. Yeah. Got tonight through Wednesday, Also Tuesday. We'll have a commercial a Super Bowl commercial coming every night as we've I've been working on since. I get that s a lot. It's like what's Caleb up to and general? I'm like, I don't know. It's like he came in. He gave me a quick pitch. It's like all right, go do it. And then it comes out. I'm kind of excited. I I didn't even know until I just saw some of it some of the best barstools ever come out with is it the same product, and you try Marshall or different. No. So basically, the the whole premise of it is that there's there's a lot of there's a lot of issues with our Super Bowl and the experience around it really these commercials are not the sell products there to fix these issues that are going on with our Super Bowl. It's a great tease. All right. I think we have to go to break. Right. You gotta head out. Breaking I'm going to go. Yeah. I'm going to. Is the only day won't oh Friday. It'll be a little bit late with Ronnie. All right. Very back on North Korea. This is Caleb song. I mean, this is a great song. No. Why are they playing gun control off for so nice? Oh. What's the protests on what's on shooting? He's a little song. We wrote about gun control called shoots you down. Are you trying to trying to make? And make it music. No gun.

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Episode 50: Cejudo, Sonnen in studio, Cyborg, Waterson, Sterling, King Mo, many more

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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Episode 50: Cejudo, Sonnen in studio, Cyborg, Waterson, Sterling, King Mo, many more

"The. And gentlemen. Welcome to. Back in your life on this Monday, June tenth two thousand and nineteen wanna marry a Hawaii. Welcome back to the program. I own, my we have a lot to talk about this week are coming off a thrilling weekend in Chicago highlighted by the first ever Helwan erode show Friday night, a magical night an unbelievable night. One of the most memorable nights of my career June seven two thousand nineteen CBO ch- Ben aspirin, Paul Felder, wonderboy, Thomson, and Eddie Alvarez for the first ever knows world order trivia challenge, and I won't spoil who won because if you want to listen to it, you can on our, our old feed the feed that you're maybe listening for this after the fact, usual podcast feed, you know, the one you can actually download the show and it sounded great. I wanna thank Elizabeth Daniel, Glenn. Everyone involved. It was amazing two hundred plus fans. There was credible. I can be. Happier. Also special shout to Andrew Davis of the stats and information group for coming up with the questions. It was a lot of fun. I hope to do many more, thank you. Thank you. Thank you to everyone who came to the event Friday night at Lincoln hall, and of course Saturday night at the United Center, Henry Suharto makes history once again, he is now the Olympic champion the flyweight champion and the bantamweight champion of the UFC. He defeats mama rice in a great fight and entertaining fight who thought that flight would not live up to the hype. Who thought that it would be boring? It was amazing. And now you have a flyweight who holds all the gold and apparently, according to Dana white, the flyweights have been saved. I'm reserving judgment on that one. As I wrote on my call at ESPN dot com. I random thoughts. You could check it out right now. I wanna see if they're actually going to start booking Henry in flyweight fights or if they're just saying that, so that they call him a double champ, because there's a difference and there's only like ten fighters left in the division. So are they actually going to actively start building it back up after getting rid of those guys or do they just want to say it's around because that, you know? The two titles. A little more credibility. We'll see nevertheless, great performance. Great win. He is coming into his own. He is very entertaining very charismatic. I love the cringe stuff. I think it's a lot of fun. And so that was notable Valentina shift chanko, her vicious knockout of just guy that was notable. I have a hard time seeing anyone at one twenty five challenging her anytime soon. I've been wrong before, but while it seems like she is fighting at a different level. It seems like she is sort of what DJ was a couple years ago. But I would actually argue the gap is bigger between Valentina and the rest of the contenders are one twenty five and and DJ was dealing with at one hundred five course. Twenty Ferguson with the win over Donald Surani blew his nose is wells up. It was a bit of a gruesome affair, but a great win for Tony start off a little slow. He was really pouring it on in the second round and I thought it was starting to look elementary that he would either stop him or at least get the victory in the third round, great win. It's great to have L back now. Title shot. All right. Let's talk about who is joining us on today's show because like I said, we've got a lot to get to, and I wanna get to our first guest of the day because it's very exciting. We've got an in studio guest, and it's a dear friend. It's a colleague there, I say to partner. He's got a big week ahead of him. But first, let me tell you about the lineup the F or mention Henry, so who will be joining us at around three fifty PM eastern time. Yes. The king cringe, the man who holds all the goal the triple C, the triple champ. He will be here. Yes, I am looking forward to that. It's going to be great also will be joined later on in the program by that woman. Let your Kagan she defeated dry, Calderwood, and the quote unquote, Kernan Jerker issue. The number one contender at one hundred and twenty five pounds. We'll get blonde fighters. Thoughts on? It also be joined by algebra sterling who had a big win on Saturday over Pedro Munos. And I wonder now if he's the number one contender at one hundred and thirty five pounds. So who do I think is a little banged up? So I wouldn't be surprised if sterling Ciotat again. Also a big win on Saturday have to meet, but for now. Now it's a good time to be alginates sterling. We'll also talk to. That, man Marquette, I don't have listened front of me. Some sort of relying on the pictures in this particular case. He's the head coach of Marlon REIs, and we'll get his thoughts on the fight. What went wrong? And then, of course, the Frankie Edgar title fight coming up in late July in Edmonton prior to Mark Henry. We'll be joined by that, man, Calvin cater who had a big win over Ricardo lamas walked into enemy territory, had a nice victory stoppage win in Chicago Ricardo lamas. First time that Calvin caters on the program. And in fact, one of his teammates came up to me before the fight and said, you better have Calvin on if he wins on Saturday? And I said, I will and here I am a man of my word king Mola wall retired while we were on the air last week. And I've always loved talking to king MO one of the smartest men in the game. And so I'm happy to have him on this week. We'll talk about the retirement and where he goes from here. Also Michelle Waterson was in the news on Saturday night, white saying, she is not in the discussion to fight for the next little surprise by all that. We'll get her thoughts on all that, and see what's next for her. And what? He thought of Tana's wars and all that stuff. Chris cyborg, has a fight against Felicia Spencer, and it appears as though, she might be reaching the end of road at, at the we'll get her thoughts. She tweeted something, very interesting about Dana weights comments about her not wanting to fight Jimenez, tick that. Every tweeted it, so I'm looking forward to talking to Chris, I, but first, where is my old French L P is he making his weight is he making a grand entrance is going to join us? I do believe in a matter of seconds in our studio. He wasn't in Chicago. He was getting ready. I flight Friday night at Madison Square Garden Bill Tor to twenty two yes chill. Please. I don't mean to look at this. What are we have? Chil-. What this is unbelievable cupcakes for me. One one year anniversary diversity. A hog. Wow. Well, yes, my idea, if you call me, Leo Mundy's. Yes. Let me tell you, why don't we have a theater? We're not done. Oh my God. There's for the one, you're ever Serie. Yes. Ten years this show, you guys are so ten years in the business I love you. Thank you guys, Leah's, the best top-five human beings, I've ever met in my life. That's fair. Yeah. Fair. Top-five. Wow. Look at this, my shows ten years old this month, one year anniversary of my move here at ESPN joining forces with you. We built the PM plus on our backs on our backs with our hands. Now, everyone's patting doing the old Barry Horowitz. Hey you gonna was an argument. You were in with the ESPN. Okay. What's sick of not getting the respect deserve, how after that? How did that I told to take a hike nowhere told him that I bury him where you stand? Come on. I told him to take his phone. Because his, his body lay was, I didn't know if he got it any mean he's very dry. Yes, he's a jokester. But did he get it? I think he got. All right. You didn't talk to him after we don't know, for sure. He got it. It's a shoot when you when you shoot. You don't ask after the fact. Right. Was that cooling policies actually lot of people in the comments? When post that said show would be proud. I thought was great. But I was reading his body lanes. I'm not sure Kenny, appreciate us. We'll see if I'm on, again, never know. Yeah, we'll never know. No one knows this. Very nice. Thank you. You brought this up from New York for me. It's right. Wow. Vanilla really beautiful. Will thank you straight year. If it wasn't weighing week for me that we would have a contest you and I right now. So I would do I would absently a cat named cupcake cut case. Okay. That was your thing. You and me should take. She likes her nickname. Right. How much way to nineteen to nineteen? Yes. So after a couple of fights at heavyweight is a tough banking macoute. Well, it is different. Yeah. It is. I prefer it. I prefer it in that it builds an extra mechanism of discipline. Okay. To get that extra run or forces, you eat a little healthy. You lose that, that discipline, heavyweight or at least I did. But I also was faced with the I don't want to be too small, that's in theory. But at the same time, if I get to, I can't move it was his, we're balancing act would no way to find out until you weigh in, and then go competancy feel so you're also finding getting into, but you're also fighting a smaller to five right? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So it's probably in your best interest to try to be as you need. You need to be fast metric, you'd wanna be big fitting rampage at two different levels of two five agree, right? Yeah. And he moves. Well, I mean he was world champion a two five. Yes is the top contender at eighty five. So he's one of those. Yeah. Right in that way classes pretty good for him. So how'd you in studio when you talked about you just got the fight? It was just announced. And you said, you want to do this for Randy kicked his to all that stuff more now that we're five days before the fight. How do you feel about the fight that? That, that level motivation like the revenge. Wanna get revenge or have the feelings change. No, that's exactly where however that will change in fairness, that changes each days. The fight gets a little closer and you start thinking stop thinking about those things just start to really focus on yourself, eventually, it'll be the way in, and then you recover and get a good night's sleep. And then it's about the warm up, and, and walk it out, and performance, so that will change. But yeah, I think you're right this whole process do enjoy this. Yeah. Now that you know that I won't point it's going to come to an end. Find yourself, appreciating more more. Yes. Yes. Around you smell the roses have many regrets in my career, but my biggest regret is I've never enjoyed it. I've never enjoyed a single, not one of the trips or the venue or the but I think that that is wrong. I wish I would have enjoyed it. I wish I would have taken and realize that, you know, I don't have to do this. I get to do this, and I want to do this, but it never seemed like that always very stressful environment. And have you started to enjoy it a little more one town to the next? I'm trying to I've at least identified that and I'm trying to when did that happen like the identification that I need to start actually appreciating this because it's going to come to an end at some point Altima fighter three Brazil, and with other coaches and we all talked about that really as one of the requirements, head of the coaching staff when we got the schedule I said, everybody come on Mark two days that you're taking off. You're gonna take off. You're gonna see Brazil. You're gonna go enjoy some food, some relaxation, essentially, whatever could be. But let's enjoy this we've never we've never had any fun just been work, where let's even if it's only two days, everybody. Enjoy this some point. All right. So you're joining it. What a week saying what a way to start your week. Yeah. I mean here with us here we are still Connecticut's. I missed you this weekend. I missed you. Hey, what a great card it was carbon. Carbon value. Thank you for that. No, it feels a little empty. I was talking with Charlie Charlie are fearless producer on the on the road enjoyed his forty ninth birthday this past. Did you text them know you're big on birthdays? It now. That's gone. What that's a loss on your part Thursday night. Now I'm really lay this really right? And plus I said it on the air, and I'm gonna take a shot at of that. Okay. Just pretend like this happen, and that he doesn't watch show, but I was telling him a little empty without you. And so I'm happy. Now you told me before we started. You did watch L, course you watch the whole thing. I spoke to Henry Suharto on the phone as I was driving from where I live to Bristol. And he said, what shall think? What did shelter? And it's like chills opinion really maddest you Henry's, like, yes, it really matters to me. I wanna know what he thought of it all. And so, I'll ask you what did you think of it? I appreciate that. So, I to thoughts I from the entertainer aspect of it, which is what I mean. Look, he saved the flyweights I realize this wasn't a fight, but he is the flyweight champion. It's relevant to bring up from the entertainer stand. There was something to see all week, every time Henry. Out there. It didn't matter even if he was throwing out the first pitch in that baseball game. There was something to see there in the crowd. They didn't even know who they were booing him. He's out there, too. It was wonderful. And the thing about Henry that I'm appreciate an as viewer who wants to be entertained is how confident he is in the stuff that he's doing. And how much fun he is having I can see. He is having fun. So even if somebody wanted to tease him and say, the, the crown is silly or whatever it may be it's working. It just is it's just working, there's something to see their then as you look at the fight. My goodness, aero. Come on. I mean, I'll remind you again, to compare the entertainer with the athlete because it is a combination of the two when Mayweather started doing the money thing, he's throwing them on everybody. All they hated. It was cringe-worthy made everybody uncomfortable. Now, they call him money may, whether they want to see if you're having success in your winning, and that's where it's who does that you can get away with a lot of things that other people couldn't get away with I think he's doing everything, right? Did you pick them going into the fight? I did pick him. Yeah. Thought, do you think it would go like that? 'cause I thought he was losing the first round. Oh, he. Lost the first round. Yeah. He made a just and I think he might deserve to lose the first round he came out in a little bit different stance than I had seen before. His chin was up a little bit more. His range wasn't great against Marlon throwing leg kicking opposed to punches. But also ends up being a credit for Henry. He made that adjustment. You know it all started when he threw that cross in Atlanta, and he throws a second cross talk about the physical side, but may whether used to throw double crosses, and that was shocking that you could with no Jabeen between no distractions just crosses he was so fast and got away with it, Henry through. And if you go back and watch Sam six he threw six crosses that we're unanswered and no setup in between. No jab cross cross slipped one time cross. Cross cross. Cross cross unbelievable. And that's really when he changes he got him in that tie-clinching deliver the vs. I thought the Marlin deserved a lot of credit there, too, by the way when he was getting need in the phase Anderson, Silva rich Franklin style came right out of it started fighting again, I was confused. How Marlin is good of a standard fighters. He is was lost in that position, though, I was confused. He was lost in. Did. Remind me of rich Franklin who was great versus Anderson Silva Anderson found that one position that for whatever reason rich didn't know how to deal with and Marlin was the same way. He just took those knees. Got really tired, though. Right. You seem like he was guessing out a little bit. But it was an amazing fight entertaining his head so much respect for Henry. And I wonder like he's really good at one thirty five. I don't know. What if I'm Henry what you do? Why would you go down to one twenty five or now the champ at one thirty five? I know it's a great gimmick to have the two titles. But doesn't really make a lot of sense. Right. I think that's right. And it would come down in my estimation, I think you would agree with whatever. The bigger fight was ever steps forward at one twenty five they get more attention than one thirty five. And I do think that it is important to Henry to be the first guy to defend the belt, but you do make a fair point is a very hard thing to do. If in fact, he saved the flyweights as we've been told that he's going to have to go back to hey, one forty five Scillies that may sound don't forget, arrow, we teased him when he first said that was the ninety beat dillashaw. We. Teased him was, it's you don't tease him. Now, all of a sudden you gotta listen to the guy when he won the Olympics and he never brings us up about himself. He needs to tell the people this. He won the Olympics at a different weight. Some people think that was at one twenty five or one third Nuno. He won that one Twenty-one, then he won the won twenty five anyone the one thirty five hour. So he's as he wants to go to one forty five who can stay he can't. Now you can debate whether he went or not. But you can't say he doesn't have the right to make the claim and match Frankie. Edgar beats max hallway, that's not a massive size difference. Right. He's not that much bigger than or so. I think it's definitely doable. His claim that he's the greatest combat. Sports athlete of all time. What do you make of it hard to disagree with really? I don't know that I would co-sign the statement, I tend to lead towards door Saint Pierre. I tend to look into John Jones. It's you can't just dismiss the statement of two different sports in three different weight classes, you can't simply just do this. He does need a little bit more time. And I think over time if you wanna talk about this, I think over time history could go against Jon Jones, and I say that in. This regard. The sport is now leaning toward Scott, Coker Dana white. So the sport is leaning towards these champ champ opportunities in different weight classes and co mingling. Guys and creating this kind of parody. If John is greatest, he is at light heavyweight. I'm already starting to see the dialogue from Johns. The greatest fighter ever to John greatest light heavyweight, I'm already starting to hear these kinds of things over time. If he doesn't spread it to another weight, and he's a bit of a gym. I think this is unfair. John is the perfect size for two five. He's too big for one eighty five. He'll argue too small for at the perfect size. It's not his fault. I bring his name because it's one that I know you'll recognize and over time I think that it could affect his legacy. Okay. And so. Right. So what about he's won? Thirty one twenty five Olympic gold. Medalist. You also. I mean you can also talk about some boxers because when you say combat sports, you're just mentioning MA fighters jor will like you can throw in sugar. Ray Roberts Robinson, and alkyl Mata and Muhammed all the anyone you want. Right. It gets a little tricky. Then that's why I agree with you. I can't actually say it. I don't feel comfortable saying it. But I don't want to argue it right. He could run within I've no problem with that. I don't wanna say myself when he said it again, backup to was that January. Nineteen in Brooklyn good memory dillashaw. Thank you for that. And he made the claim it was a little come on. But it is now hard to say that it was what's he got to do? And I know the answer is, he's got to have more opportunities. More guys defend more about I get all of it. But he is spreading around that hardware in. It's not a ridiculous claim anymore. It's one you might disagree with. But it's not when you can tease him for which is released January. He did get teased for it. He really wanted to know if you felt like his delivery was on point like the whole package. The thing does what he's like, breathing. And he's out the Cameron itself. And you talked about the props, but it feels very comfortable. It doesn't feel forced, correct. Yeah. I know the cringe stuff as part of the gimmick. But to me, it's crazy. It's really entertaining. I really enjoy Henry, pseudo, particularly because he is having fun with it, you can tell he is not uncomfortable. You've seen guys go out there when you wanna talk about the delivery and the entertainment aspect of seeing guys go out there with a pocket statement and they come out and deliver it like the cap that the Canarian they got this great look on their face in the crowd has no idea what they're talking about. And then they get embarrassed, which you would he doesn't. Get embarrassed. He's so comfortable in his own skin. I think that's one of the really great things about it. And as far as delivery. It was wonderful. And I liked that he stopped Joe Rogan before they faded a black and roll the credits. Wait a minute. I wanna call some guys out and I want to do it by name Harry smart to do. All of a sudden, what's he says, dominant, you think Dominic not going to respond to that? He says, Cody Garbrandt you think cody's not going to respond Corsie's guys are gonna respond? Let's get it going. Yeah. If he doesn't do that. You and I didn't just spend ten minutes talking about it. We just did it right? We brush it off and went to the bullets head kick. We brushed it off and started talk other things on on the card right now force the dialogue to go on he won. Okay. Let me ask you about Tony Ferguson that ever happened to before would happen to Sironi hit the bell. No, no. I've heard about that. And you know what? It's hard for me to know that. That's true. And I think when I put myself in his shoes, I blow a nose. Yeah. I mean, if you feel like you've got to breathe, and you only got two ways to do it. And one of them's clogged you try to clear it makes sense to me is crazy to see how like how freaking out and trying to push it down. I think he actually would have fought. There's no doubt in my mind. That's continued crack. It was the right call foreshore. Do you have any issue with the punch after the bell? I do in that. It was blatantly late. Okay. Sure. There was to perhaps, perhaps it was only in the heart of Tony, we'll probably never know the answer to that. It was blatantly late, how however, there is a rule that you stop on the referee. Not on the bell. Now, I'm starting to getting the technical aspects of it as to why the commission allowed the referee to issue a warning, as opposed to point as it went to a TKO favoring Tony as a force to a disqualification hurting. Tony, and that is a very real thing. He does not have to stop on the bell. That's true. He has to stop on the referee. Okay. So. Yeah. No problem with that. I had a problem with it. I will acknowledge that I will knowledge it was Q. I think there's a fair conversation if I if I had to choose one now, even with the benefit of hindsight, which the commission and the referee, of course, did not have. I still think we're glad to get it right. And I, I would go in that favorite identity. Love the reasoning I didn't have the resources. Reasoning behind it as what I had more of a problem with which is the late punch landed here and the effects of the I were over here, and therefore the late punch didn't affect the eye, and we stopped the fight because I didn't love that whether it's right or wrong. I vent love that, but I do think a warning likely was appropriate. What did you make of his performance overall incredible really Tony incredible them cowboy one the first round? Right. He did you ever seen? You've seen. Tony lose the I make out a little bit of a slow start before it gets that pace going. But lose an entire round is very rare thing. I thought that COPA great. And I also think he deserves credit in the second round for those take downs. One of them was super close. One of them actually was -ffective. He only held him there for a few seconds, but he got the former national champion down. I thought it was a very good fight. It was trending in, in Tony's direction though. And it was largely just because of that pace and cowboy said that before the fighting. So look, I don't think he's Mr. technical standup fighter but boy, he'll throw a lot of shots. That's true. If the says Tim right now. All right. You're the man twelve in a row. You haven't lost since two thousand twelve. You can wait for the winner of v portray or can have Connor, which are you taking Connor? Yeah. I'll tell you this since you brought that up. Tony Ferguson is the only guy only guy in all of them a may that I could name for you right now that has five opponents that he could fight any one of those five via main event, and be a box office, people who are the office of boxful. You said it enough confidence box office. Okay. Well, let's just go through it. You name, two of them sure he could go to compete. He could go into Pori. Of course, it could go into Connor who can't get it. He could go into Nate. Let me tell you let me throw name you though. You're gonna love this matchup. If you get this, Tony Ferguson just to get you, boom. I knew that works works, particularly this will surpri in three rounds. It's a more compelling fight of scheduled for three rounds for five why. Because now all of a sudden you take a little bit of that pace away from Tony. I you take a little bit of that. Where that gates, he's known for taking by choice. He prefers to be an fistfight than to go out there and just use his best gills. And I just think in fifteen minutes, you would have something so incredibly special could still over twenty five I would almost guarantee you, you wouldn't fifteen it would be scheduled to that. That's a main event in any arena that they play. So it would be five round. Right. But I think it's a fun discussion point. I think I'm right. Okay. Now predict what actually happens because his his path has been so unpredictable. Right. Who wins twelve hundred. Oh and doesn't get attached this data shot. Right. You're wasn't lost in seven years, and to what you actually happens will. I don't believe that he will fight Conor next for multiple reasons, but I just don't think that he will have Connor next just come the question. And I'm thinking out loud here. I didn't know you're gonna just. That's right. But so Connor can kind of do what he want kind of do whatever he would like to do, and that's even been stated, and the fellow athletes were well, we gotta see what Connor decides to do. So he decides to go into a match with Khabib that's likely going to halt Tony for a little bit. And. That, of course, is being very presumptuous that could be gets over port, which is hard fight. He's favored to do. So I'm as I talked you just looking in lines that he does with that fight got interrupted somehow, I think it would likely become. I don't know if you're going to get Connor back against anybody besides compete. Really? I just don't know that you are Nate. Yeah. Yeah. I stand corrected. He will come back for Nate. I mean they have to do that, right. Even according to Connor on our lives, his life by code, and you may disagree, or you may agree with his Kobe lives by a code and he does respect the architecture and the history of combat sports, Mick special specifically in. He understands that when you split into you go to the rubber match. He understands that he stated at many times on the record. Where did you watch the fight? I wash my house watching by yourself. I had Jolan latte over who's even Jolan land that too bony that you do your show. Okay. So comes over and watches comes over to order, the pay per view. Wow. Sixty bucks really sixty bucks. We'll, he's living in his ex wife's house right now. So she get the Bill and then he'd be caught. And she told me to come over my gosh. So he makes you pay for it. Yes, you need water. A lot of information. No talking to fast. All right. We'll want cupcakes. I am excited. Would you like okay now? Okay, I'm overweight. Are you do nineteen this morning team pounds to go? No. That is not a hard wait cut, but it would warrant not having a cupcake yet. That's probably thirteen pounds over then have a cupcake. I'm probably like twenty pounds over New York commission any issues with it. No. No. You really not like fighting in New Yorkers that, just the thing that you say probably a little bit more of a bit. Don't forget, the first time I hit started it. I had never even thought or knew how, how could I say, I don't wanna fight if I never even right now, I was having a little bit fun with the city right sheep. Eat very GP doesn't. Take any sophistication. Yeah. I don't have any issue with the commission. I know they've had a couple of headaches over the years, but they're really silly ones. I think in many ways they were falsely accused this incredible thing. I don't know if you realize the, the opportunity to have water, yes, you have water. I'll give you a fresh bottle just very Q he'll Wani you. See. I'm not that bad of a guy after all, did you miss did you when you're watching the show with your friend, the Gibran? But I just I feel like you enjoy. When I call him that you're like, you know, I wish I'd be watching this very I wish I was a part of you. Feel that way very much. Yeah. So you went to two Twenty-nine, which was a week before you're fighting Fyodor. Yeah. Why didn't you go to this one? This one was just a little bit different because they brought us in so early to New York, today's Monday by example. I arrived Sunday, so that I could be here in Bristol. Don't forget. I'm staying in New York couple hours away half hour drive. So logistically, it was just a little hard. Okay. This is never happened me. I've never been on a set. I got this cough and needed water. I see other people always with their drinks in there. What what's wrong with you throat gets parched? It just it's happening to me. Too more water. I think maybe the gum is you're doing is that what it is? I mean a little embarrassed about it quite frankly, don't use them a little while on the air, cutting a little bit of weight mouth. Get strikes. As part of the process. Is that true that thing? Okay, how many more do you go left in you? Because I feel like fights if people who are trying to say, like if you don't win this one, this could be your thing, right? Oh well in fairness to them. Yeah. I think that is a little bit of a thing. I don't imagine this would be my last fight under any scenario. That is what, what I'm proposing. But yeah, I think that, that's fair to always look at a match and say, hey, you know, if a guy doesn't doesn't get over the. Yeah. I think that's a very real thing. I've been hearing it for about ten years. It isn't a new thing for me to hear, but I wanted to credit for somebody for following my career and pointing that out how many flights left on your deal with Baltimore on my deal with. Latour. Let's see. I'm not sure that I'm not sure that I even have this one. I've never reflected back on that deal. But to my understand it was a four fight deal. I've done four fights. I've never even been offered Machida by the west stay. I've told you was I never offered me. I've never accepted Machida. I was never offered Machida. You reported on ESPN dot com, but I will be fighting and here I am no agreement. There's gotta be one somewhere. You have not side. What has to talk to Leah really? I haven't slant, it will sign it at the waves. You hit an EPA get were it Bella towards what they don't have to worry about old shale, right? L channels companyman. I'll be here to fight. But if you asked about the contract, I'd have you ever actually gone through the fight without signing about agreements about agreement? I don't think so the only other fight that I've had that I never agreed to because I was never offered it still to this day was show gun. Never even been offered that fight the commission handles out agreements to my understanding really about agreement is different than a contract with say, Bella. And so, I believe before you can even get on the scale you sign about. Agreement really? Okay. I'm quite sure I thought it was if you don't sign it, right. Then they will at least check to make sure it signed. Okay. It's my understanding. So technically, you're saying, you have actually fulfilled the obligations on your contract. Yes. So this, I mean, they say we need or maybe you should say, we need to renegotiate our deal after this. They say here's your hat. What's your hurry, shale business? Another could do this were, you know, I don't know that I was worried about I don't think I ever thought about until you just asked me about this. You would just ask me the question. I don't know. I don't worry about this, there seems like there's always somebody that needs beat up. It seems like I have a moral obligation to continue this, but I don't know. I don't know how they're happy with you. Well, I mean, I would imagine you're the only guy on every show. It's amazing. It's like sometimes I all it's amazing. Be happy with old shale. How did take care of his business? I know. I know everyone loves be chill. Yeah. It's just an amazing story like you're the only one who crosses all the promotional boundaries. That's very nice that you wanna know who. I get a lot of credit and it's a tremendous culpable. You want to know who did it? I doesn't get credit gilber, Gobert melinda's remember when he was working at FOX, right? Covering the UFC, and then he come over here, the ESPN you know, he talked about the PF. The Bill be Gilbert was actually the first. Okay fair enough. I get the credit. It's false. With Michael spin on on Saturday. He was sort of taking guy should be worried that I don't have a contract. But now you've got me spit on that a little is that something shattering Coker my Cogan are upstanding. Yes. So as far as I'm concerned, I do I don't think gonna screw you like. Anybody today? Bret screwed. You did the right thing. Could you imagine? If Coker doesn't interview the following week, with, like, I don't know, Goldie or moral, and he talks about how screwed jail. Yeah. And now you didn't have a contract with your fault, and you're not a good businessman. It'd be great Coker turns. He'll why would grant even think you could leave one night later beyond WCW what he's going to take leave the belt. Here. You guys. Go figure it out. That's ridiculous. Just because they were in Montreal. It doesn't work that way. Brett Brett, screw bread. You made the right call you stand by this percent percent the documentary wrestling with shadows. You saw it. Yes. I thought that they had a deal and he reneged on the deal. Brett did. No vets. In the handle, whether opportunity he's virus series was survivor series was booked, everything was booked. The tickets were on sale that all of a sudden, the Booker comes in his Brett, you're putting Sean over breakfast, not not much realm. Not so well the show happens to be in Montreal. Brett, and your contract is done the second you exit that ring I won't go there and do it in t offer to extend it. He said, look, we'll do a draw we'll do a big thing. And then the next night in Detroit or wherever they were a loosen there. I just want to lose in Canada. Does just the opposite. He said he would do it prior to that because don't forget the survivor shares on a Sunday. That's when they do their paper views. And don't forget that nitro was on Monday. No the very next day was in Atlanta. Is that true? Yes, he walked out in Atlanta. Really? Yes. Next day. There was no time to do that. You know, it's one of my great throne several suggestions for teams, but it doesn't work that way. Wow. You're anti Brett, I'm not anti Brett just in this particular case. Vince did what was right that would not have been right to the rest of the boys or even to the audience for. For him to let Brett go to Atlanta, as champion you Tiki rarely do you think you really knocked them out? I was at work. No. And that was one thing that bothered me with wrestling with shadows, because that's where they changed the story now either the story was not the first time a wrestling with shadows. Got it wrong. But the story has never been told that way. Now, let me tell you where this is off. And this footage is even out there on YouTube, when Brett goes into the office with Vince throws the punch, there was multiple people in that office including Shane, and that was one of his biggest problems with what Brett did. He's like, look, I understand how we handle things when, when there's a screw I understand that you and I were going to have a moment, but you hit me in front of my son. And I let you do it. I won't let you do to get that was a very real thing, Vince, the black guy, and there's even a camera on that when Brett comes out in the pink and black, and then, Vince and Shane comes out, and I think it was Pat Patterson in the room with them. And after go, rewatch when wrestling with shadows did it, it was Brett was getting ready to shower and Vince came in. It was just the two of them, so somewhere. Somebody got this off, which Scott hall picked up on Scott hall said the whole things will work are working. Look at these. Details at constantly change. Brett was in on it from the beginning at I don't I think Scott hall is wrong. Okay. This is Scott hall. This is what he is proclaimed. Right. That's my great claim to fame. I was independence at night. Don't really I went there. Yeah, Montreal's a student at the time in high school, and I know idea what was going on. And I saw him smash the TV monitors afterwards and do the WCW then I went home on the internet and read all about it. I wasn't a wasn't a smart back then. And that's another thing that Scott hall brought up was that WCW goes, look, I'm just telling you in the heat of the moment that tired, and that fatigue and everything going, you would not think to look turn. No. Where the camera was and do that. He goes Brett was in on, I don't agree with him. I do not think it was. Right. I'm sharing the story, though. And since this whole thing is a bit conspiracy. It's fun to look at it from all angles. And that Scott hall's, I, I have no idea, how even got on this topic if I'm being honest, but I'm enjoying it thoroughly. Did you watch AWOL because you just informed me that I don't have a contract with mind spending. That's what happened. Did you watch w? Yeah. I did watch it really. I tuned in just after the battle royale, which heard opened the show and ordered it garbage. Yeah. Wow. What did you think? Very good. I also like you know, that's a star driven business much like Vince is doing with the Saudis right now where he's just gotta bring the biggest names. It was it seemed like everybody was a free agent in the world made an appearance of some regard one year which I that professional resident I considered doing that. When I was a sophomore college actually, went out to the WCW was called the power plant, which was a training out. Sars arch was there. Dr. I mean he worked I was an all college all American division with that year. Okay. I made it through I barely made it through how many days you had to do is kind of, like navy seal as soon as you've had enough that you've had enough leave, and don't come back and the very first time in the room was packed by the end of the first day. There was only three of us left and those three two of us made it to the final day who are the three now neither one of them making it. I didn't go into it after one day after one day everyone was gone. But three of us the second day we all made it to the second day. Nobody got kicked out nobody quit. But on the third day, one guy. Did not come back. He was a cop. He told us that he's guys. I, I think I'm at the end of I can't move them. There's two and then we encourage you'll be here, you know, sleeping these guys. I really don't think I'm gonna come back, and he did it, it was me gentlemen from Jamaica. Okay. And they worked Sohar air. It was so hard. And then what happened? I wasn't all I'm telling you, I barely made it through the it was so. And that was okay. So then I returned to the Oregon. I did my two more years. My senior year. They went out of business. I got invited back. Yeah. Made it to the triumph. But if you make it through the trial, all that gets you, as the interview, which they can then invite you or not invite you. I don't know what happened with the other gentleman. I got invited. Okay. But they also thought I was way too small. Put me on a scale with one hundred ninety seven pounds. They thought I was lying about my weight. They thought I was smaller, so then they put me on a scale, and they said, hey, man, you gotta be a high flier you got to, you know, and that's what they were doing in the nineties, and that's not what I wanna do. I don't wanna do door but they were trying to get over this cruiserweight class. And that was a little disheartening to me. But I that was my extent. You think if they didn't go out of business. So this is around two thousand right? Yeah. That you would have actually gone down that path instead of Emma. I can't remember back then at that time, but yeah, I think that that was my plan go and do that. At one point one is due MA. Yeah. It was just it was really hard to break into the business. I was already doing a man at my first fight in nineteen ninety seven and my first fight before. Everyone went to the power plant put to break into the business was so difficult. And in fairness, it wasn't much of a business back then it was a great sport. Many of us loved it. But this is for the sanctioning and the commissions before any television deal, this is largely in the dark ages, as you remember of, of the UFC Bella tour, wasn't even a name back then W E C pride wasn't an and don't forget, Dana white didn't get involved until two thousand one nineteen ninety seven. Tougher. Thanks could've gone, the path of, of wrestling. Did you did you try for WEF? Do you talk to them? I talked to them. I talked to them one time I share that little bit privately with you. It was just before I fought -mongst friends here. Are you won't tell anyone no share? It was just before I fought Anderson Silva, and it was basically a offer. Oh this. No call no show ten this is ten years later. What you asked me? I'm like when you were young still. I didn't know how to my only contact to the WWE Beck, and don't forget, the internet was just coming out back. Nobody had self. There was no Twitter social. Facebook wasn't even a word. I mean don't forget the time that we were in my only contact to the business back then was rowdy Roddy piper? And I didn't know him but I knew Matt Lennon met knew him. Okay. So it was hard. I didn't even know how to get in contact with them. Wait a second. Now, my dad would have figured it out. He'd probably would probably got on a plane just showed up at titan tower and try to figure it out. Out, but no, I didn't know how I don't think I've ever talked to about the other thing you mentioned was that prior to seventeen and one forty eight. This second one second one forty eight. That's a real thing. Legit one hundred percent not working me. I know someone called you and asked you not to show. No call no show, you, you cannot call. You cannot win you can't show. I got two offers or the second one was do show and beat him and be on raw with the belt on Monday. No way. Yeah, this is insane. That was a much bigger offer, and but you have to win the fight. And I said, I said called, I can't tell you really the whole story, go ahead. Fine. He said, I said. Why would they want that they want that? And he said he paused and he said to stick it up Dana White's ass. What am I said? Okay. And then what nothing I didn't. I didn't tell I'd never did anything with it. Really? Did you consider it mill or a second? Not even the second millisecond know why absolutely much money. We talking about seven figures seven figures, but why straight up it was a million dollars to no call no show as five million to be on with the belt. I was number. That's what a secret. So the whole story now Kantar long enough to tell you who call. Have you ever told the whole story? That's the only part I believe in who called. Okay. And why, why are you protecting him? Well, I feel like that's those is aiming grime don't, please don't because I'm sure it does. I don't know. Many people there. Please don't. It wasn't Vince but I will tell you this is. Go ahead. Why was just gonna say, yeah. It was not something that I would have even remotely considered I wanted the championship fight Anderson. Yeah. But if you have one, you get the bell sure then you show up and I don't think there would have been anything underhanded today there, yes. You that was cool to consider that her. Oh, really? I never talked about. I never I didn't know how it worked fight. I get on a plane the next day and just show. I don't know how. Yeah. And that was more than you were making. Does that mean they show on wrong with the belt? So I'm picturing my to this day, what I pictures, I'm on the ramp. And I'm with the belt and the audience and the wrestling crabs looking to go. Who's that guy? That's what I'm picturing would have happened. They probably wanted you to do the old allege ablaze throw it in the right S. Those were the words that were you show on raw with the bell five mil. You remember how much made for that one, oh to pay to go to wrong pay to go to raw. They were in town, and that's probably more than you were making the fight him to fight Anderson. This time was fifty fifty get outta here. I don't believe. So that's through a commission. Yeah. That's right. And then, yes, of course. Right. And then the other. Yes, the ninety percent of the they don't do that anymore. I thought you're asking about the contract. Right. I thought in the contract was for thirty five and thirty. And I lost, so I got thirty five. Right. There's a hard it was a hard night for thirty five. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's an amazing story. Join talking to we do whole show like this. I wish lived nearby that we can actually do, because it's different when you're face to face. But you're driving here. You did a great thing. They're veteran move, which I'll acknowledge all acknowledge you try to you didn't wanna talk about this anymore. You went for the water and you did the I enjoy you think now take the compliment it will boost my ego. And then we'll get off topic of you getting an offer not to show up the UC fight. I really have told the whole story. I just I know that, you know, I only know people just feel like my face crack while I doesn't such a good job. Not revealing the day. Where were you when you got the call in my driveway at my old house? Okay. Sitting. It's funny that you ask me that I know exactly where it was when you were blown away. Yeah. You married. No. Who's first person you told? That whole story to have hung up before it said. So and so guess what? Just happened to me. Probably yeah I do not likely would have been my mom because that story couldn't get out. You should know. No kami. I couldn't I couldn't tell you. Yes, I can tell you everything you would have been involved. He would have nodded inspired amazed. No idea what I und- believable. Wow. What a story that is. Do you ever regret it? No, no. You'd have been done. Then it would have never forgiven you for that one. You shouldn't forgive me. Right. Gosh, what a double cross them to the highest levels. Horrible thing. I have no call no show and. Oh my gosh. Easy. Do you know if they've ever offered anyone else this, you would have? No, I want to respect anybody that did that tried to ten million. Gave your word. And why do they hate why why would they so mad at that point? I don't know. They had a back and forth, a lot of people don't know about, and you might even remember that. I mean might Goldberger's. What's that date back to two thousand and five eight a big back and forth? Okay. Dalen Vince respect each other tremendously, especially publicly, but that doesn't I think they get very competitive. I don't have any evidence of surprise. I mean publicly there and they, they stay out of each other's we'll have. Okay. Neither one wants to it appears neither one wants the Dale ahoy Dana moment. Doing a good job with this bizarre. Vincent good job may stay at I, I personally believe, because they aren't each other's respect and it provident come the nice way. Okay. Fair enough. I personally do you believe believe believe at some point, one of them bucked up in the other answer? And they say I agree. It's just walk two miles. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. It seems the way that they do behave publicly is they earned a respect likely from about going to war. I've never seen them together. Have you ever seen that together? No photo op nothing. And you'd think at some point they would have run into this. They've, they've been together Dana came out publicly with a statement, longtime ago he was here to do SPN. Okay. Popped up there on expected to Venice. Yeah. Wow. That was actually about a production issue. One of its vice and did he take the meeting took the meeting and Dana had asked him questions about how he hung in the library know when you do a stadium show. How are you hanging? These production question. And they helped him I wanted to ask you about something. I hope you don't mind me asking patrons, then don't mind, okay? She posted a photo of her wearing an ATT shirt. Yes, What's that all about? She is a traitor and left. Jim's to AT. I figured now not quite our Jim is now an Jim. Okay. Just anything but a traitor. She's a wonderful teammate attention, there Gracie Baha, which is what we were import aggressive op is now under Dan Lambert's. That's it. It's now is the big news. Yeah, but same location. Same location. Same everything a little bit different schedule. And that's all it came down to his Gracie because it was a franchise requires a very specific. Schedule jujitsu based. And coach Bobby Shurmur goes, I've got so much going on. I can't I can't meet that criteria. Can you work with, you know, like we really can't if you're gonna be crazy, you have to do the schedule so ATT? Okay. So that mean on Friday, you'll wear an AT logo really. Career that weird I had forgotten till you just brought it up. I'm very happy. I will support the team this happened one week ago. Okay. Eight days to be precise. So Sunday of the previous week today's Monday. It'll be cool. It'd be cool. No problem. So all right. We'll your son come to this fight. It'd be there. No way. It's gotta rope since baby gangster, really where does robe first time. Yeah. He's been to fight s- before. Okay. If you go to the whole, it can be six hours in great seats, and with some popcorn and something to it's it doesn't work for kids age. So he will come to this one, he's going to watch it live. Yes. How do you feel about that? I'm excited excited be nice to see him. Is it a bit like nerve racking for you knowing that he's there? I don't think so he comes to a lot of the practices not all of them, but a lot of them. Okay. And eight to ten practices a week. He's four. So no, no, I'm used to. And then he and I got a fight every single night before he goes to bed, and he understands what's happening. Yeah. You don't think he'll freak out or anything he may? But no, I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. I think he'll under you offer to this to him, you said, would you like to come? I did not my, my wife is out here. And so we have no babysitter. Right. When we have no choice. Kids, the kids in the ring, and, and your daughter's going as well. She'll be at the it also has enough. It really it's, it's a very pretty it's a very pretty I love New York. She looks very unique knowledge them cowboy does I may try to. But I don't know where they'll be seated. I haven't thought about it 'til again. You're asking me questions. I didn't know well, this is a this is a big moment. Like while you're telling me, I'm an unsigned athlete with no home. I didn't realize this until I brought it up. You have kids loving wife. Yes. The big one shale wants deal. Yeah. Do you need me to help out? I feel like you're, maybe you're already helping Scott Mike. Hey, by the way, it's takes you overlook this guy in Gillette's on purpose? Yeah. No everything's great. They're wonderful. I won't in fact be. I should've brought you milk, right? Cut me this. Magnetic always that sometimes when guys are cutting weight. They don't wanna seafood or be around. I'm the opposite. I wanna know how that tastes. If you look happy. Is it happy? I love icing. It's people don't just eating the icing. Are you eight? Nice apprise. Good. I'm glad that it's good. Drink. Leave it here for later. Would you rather have a coffee or milk right now? Yeah. I'm not a big milk drinker. Really? Yeah. Even with even with a lot of a lot of cow dip dip like the Oreo or something really love coffee, though. Certainly it Oreos. No. Have you had an oriental only double stuff? If it's not double stuffed, I can't deal with it really is not enough. That's too much. It's like the double quarter Pounder. Remember the colorful. What is it is just it's just too much meat and cheese. Remember, the ones that were like yellow and blue those are fun. I that actually bothers me, why. Because the Oreo recipe came out of nineteen twenty nine in his never change. That's how good of a cookie while you knew the year. Yeah. That's right. And it's a now they have gone and got the gold, and then you've got the double stopped, and they got the holiday one and other putting peanut butter it, you can get some that are peaking too much. It's garbage original nineteen twenty nine same recipe, though, Masach black cream in the middle done. Thrilled that you like the double stuff quite stuff. But I haven't had in a while, you know corporate Jake, yes he's very nervous right now. He's sweating bullets. He's talking my year. We're going to long going to long he cracks the whip he wants to go. He wants the ratings to go. Idea. What Brit, Jay? He's not thinking about the corporation right now. It's he says he wants you to stay in Migo. That was a wonderful face Jake. That was actually really does great. You know, we did a live show of the show on Friday in Chicago. He'll that you sold out on that. By the way, everyone was like, I'm so happy corporate Jake's on here, but everyone said many miss you. They wanted you there. Hey, steep, a one that that's the prize. Thanks for spoiling it for everyone doggone it. How did you know he was not out? Well, I just wanted people to download the show. But how did you know that you listen? Yeah. But, you know who I would've thought would've one of that panel, Ben? You know. Oh he's good. He's very good. Paul. I would've said any just because he's the longest veteran up there. I thought any broadcaster and he travels around me goes from show to fellers great guests because of that crushed crushed. And I was shocked couldn't believe it. He undersold himself though. Yeah. He hustled, everyone join it because he's, I don't know trivia, enjoyed the show. I thought it was very good. Wow. Like the stage. I like the belt a walk you like the backdrop. Well, it's also like to eat into a circular. I like that. You were up here in the audience was appropriate way to theater style. All right. Well steer at a time. This has been a lot of fun built or to twenty since guard track. Around here chill Sunan against the ultimate cheetah ROY McDonald's against Neiman Gracie wanted to peddle a lot of question, Mark surrounding Mr. McDonald state, his back to I, hey, I agree with you on that. And what kind of state is naming it? I mean you can write you can write highs too high too in this. Right. Not all about just getting down. Whether you can get out of the rut, he's on a real high net Ruth. The co promotion. Yes, her Gucci, one of the best fighters in the world right now. Daryn Caldwell Dylan. Dana's Heather hardy. Aaron PICO feel Hawes going Robson Gracie. Yes. Off top of my head here. That was impressed. I it's a pretty. I will be there. The whole crew will be there. I knew you're going to want to see the whole crew will be there. All right, man will be there chill p corporate Jay come on out and meet him. Everybody that's right. Oh, I actually thought we were like fading up. Yes, there's with you, anyway. He'll wanting been so much fun chill. You can take my water. Safe travels and goodbye to the team. Thank you for the cupcakes. Why do you wanna take them back? You know, I love them unless you want them. No. I think it's a nice little. I think it's a nice look. It's a nice touch. No. I mean it seemed like you were trying to take back the gift. You know, by everyone take care. What a great crew. Thanks guys. There is chill p don't Dennis max Humphry. Edward Don Juan arch Aleta Darren called look, your Gucci Leona, Majia, gel son, and ROY McDonald Neiman, Gracie. How great was it to have chil- studio? Okay let's keep our guest, our next guest waiting much longer. Let's say Hello now to one of the very best female fighters in the world. She returned to action on July twenty seven th against Felicia, Spencer. She's the one and only Chris cyborg, there, she is Chris sorry for keeping you waiting Chris chill likes to talk a lot. How are you? I'm good. Thank you L. I'm very excited to hear to talk to you. Well, it's great to have you and you're right now correctly from wrong. Chris, you're in South Africa right now. Yes. I see what side you're perfect right there. Yeah, you're perfect. K. Okay. You know, I came first time to go in into south off the cuff came to work and have dip attended training dome edge team and have a lot of guys in my division. And they reach on Anguong and I love the train here in. No. And I think this second part why camp finishing my campy heat in South Africa. Okay. So you're going to stay from now, from when you got there all the way till the end of July, when you when you go to Edmonton is at the plan. Yes. Yes, we train hero. Ed start can start can't be California. And then I don't have a plan before defied, but that will have to come South Africa just going to eat into my next fight. What is it like over there in South Africa? You don't you don't hear from a lot of fighters who train out of there. I know have no match and to have a lot of good guys place, I trained have a good guys. And I'm learning I laud and a lot of young kids, you know, it's make me make me feel young again. And it's nice. You see in is shine about the mainly about the dreams and Detroit Haida really happy. This is the first time in well over a decade that you're going into a fight. Chris coming off of a loss does feel different for you. Do you know I think it just after loss to any to win, you know, item type fighter, I was tried to learn, you know, I never stopped learn. And, you know, I think the loss happened, you know, I never before I go to the cage to fight and everything. Okay. You're never gonna lost everything that before can have, you know, I always trying hard, and it'd be a wedding know so wins consequently for laws happened, just keep a work hide and be rainy. And the fighter can happen. You seem to handle the laws very well when it happened in December, but once you got home and you're out of the spotlight. Was it hard to deal with it? Did you harp on it? A lot. Did it affect you? You know it's, it's after like one week you think, you know, of course that flight that ended entity and like train, we use the plan to heads. You know, it's a lot of you think have all to drive seeks. But the reality everything happens for a reason in those data loss. Flu happen, you know, I was I pray God take care of everything. My in my life. And this Adele loss happen, it's because of one reason, and I showed a one day, we're going to see why. Okay right now. You don't know why though. Know I think I don't know. I know why I know but, you know, I keep for me how come why can't you tell us? I know I think it is can be for me. Maybe one day, okay? We'll guys can hear my one day when they have my discipline, maybe you guys can say. Look clear about something they'll Chris, you would like to fight, Amanda. Nunez again. Right. Yes, after my fight everybody saw conference, and they say that rematch. So why is Dana white saying that you don't want this fight? Funny. I was in home and watch, you depress call friends, and they can the believes then lied said in no, he knows. I him then a day after defied after deposed conference. I say, I want to rematch and he you know what the history do his tried history damage. My brand saying Chris scary Krizan wanna fight. No his type of guy say, I'm like one delays with dress is glide laughing when Joe Rogan say, I have is this type of guy and his goal mine Sam today, because when the Terai damage my brand, and it was done damage, my brain know, people follow me follow my beginning of my career in no way, I'm gonna know frayed anybody. No. I always rain. You hives and everybody. No, I asked would rematch after death flight Fano happen. Because e said, no. So do you feel like and also to be clear? You have not signed a new contract. Correct. This will be your last fight. Yes. And FOX was now really for fight for next fight, and Canada, with Lisa, you're going to be my last fight my contracts and denial. My manager's villa deal with with C because then refuse. My fly into my coaches fly from South Africa, you can that no end then swan is done light and depressed count and say, she's she's scared about fly them on the new and my manage to you didn't wanna pay like three thousand dollars the fly. And then now say ball, the won the rematch coming on son. If Assad vide posed it's Cam on. Is that so you have coaches from South African you're saying doesn't want to pay for them to come to, to, to Edmonton from South Africa to corner us that what you're saying? Yes. Well, what are you gonna do reality? I'm gonna Fe my old fly into my team fly. You know it's my goal just fly. Of course. So with this in mind, what you just said earlier, about the newness FAI do feel like this will be your last fight. You feel like the relationship is going to come to an end, regardless of what happens on the twenty seventh of July. And, you know, I hit a Lauda from see people work with see this crazy Banu you know, in Brazil people don't don't, don't always, you know, value in Brazil innovative for I want to feel like this LSU after my next fights, I have I have to wait little while. Euro be and I want I won't see on other promoters. I don't see how much have. No, I think school use seat that in no before before you can eat anything say, you don't value anything. Let's see to do another promote say that's for me. And because these I wanna do my next fight, and they had take little while and the see another things you want to test the market. Yes. Why not why not right? Why not if somebody if somebody at the house? Now, wives interview, ended, maybe put my shoes and, and now ending thinking you know why not why not take it's, it's a why not put in scummy, and they have Dipa tendency my that another promoters, you know, may I don't know. Well, it's always good to know how much you're truly worth and what your value is. And that's the best way to know it. So I think it's a fine idea. But I'm wondering if that is your plan do feel pressure. Like you have to win this fight, right? Because if you win this fight your value goes up if you lose you have less leverage. So this is a this is a truly must win situation for you. Correct. And, you know, I think you my values coming because after my last fight, I think he advocated for sports. It's like my legacy. I stay like ten years and defeat into I did laud ahead my force by won't to see before they came. You see, I have a website, Benicia behind me because the Dan, I went to my west then happy, then didn't campaign for me being lessee in our Ed have a lot of followers before. It was see, you know and. I just have to train. Hi de wet for my next fights. I don't think it'd be a no. And of course, I want to win my best to win. But I know God take ever Tino. And but I'm gonna train hide like all my fight. I do. And I don't think anything change about the loss to not know happen. It's five to one day you went into one day lost I noticed that you were at the all elite wrestling show in Las Vegas in late. May were you just there as a fan? Are you interested in actually working for them? Do you know I went there and it's very fun. I wanted to parents out through the morning and after nightime want to the show and into lot of cool people in other maize is hard. It's highly be progressively didn't work with hide inveterate let its athletics and you maybe no, I train before LeRoy B for C house work, but no, I might folks now it's Mike remake arena, but why not why not may have do pretend maybe people can't see maybe run their walls against cyber recipe. I feel you'd be a great pro wrestler. I feel like you, you have to have the strength of the look, I mean, I think you'd be amazing. This is this something that you've been interested in for a while. In the big challenge for me, big challenge. Okay. Like challenges, and what about your dreams of being a boxers, that's still something that you think about. The I had, like, like my after my next fight when the hearts, rainy and head to I wanna be little bit wild grub being decay, JR may have the opportunity for books five box flights ouster to Canada. No, my manager work on this and just waits for sue what's gonna happen, but no nothing yet, you know, I have to do just fought for my next fight, and wait the time and see what's going to happen. Did you see Felicia? Spencer's debut a couple of weeks ago. With mcgann? There's I watched that fine. What did you watch much? No, I think she's great five Xiang. She's couple of flights. You never lost before you know shoes. I think she's the real won't for the five, maybe I don't know. I watched a couple of fights heard she's good grappling. And she liked to kick to big would fight. I have a lot of fans in Canada. I think it'd be nice. So it's interesting because I think she's really good as well. But I think the rushing her, like I, I would have preferred her a couple more times before fighting someone like you do feel like they're making a mistake by putting her in there after one fight with you. No after her fight. She said, she said would like to me, and I said, no, I'm Eddie. I can the weight more nine months for fight in. I want to fight I'm have seventy years old with went to work all the time and made three times five full year. And I don't know you know, she's a septa defied accepted fight made should because you felt choose the webby. Okay. Fair enough. And so just to be clear after this fight because because I'd heard in March contract was supposed to be up. Is it like the day after this fight you're free to talk to anyone else, or is there, another period there that you have to wait and then talk to people in a lot of things going on now, but I can tell you, I have my next fights and after next fight probably going to be negative spirit and had to wait a little bit notes like. Wish own wish see and we're going to be like six months, working to remand. Let's see. Okay. When you look back at this point at your UFC career you look back at it with fondness do feel like it could have been better. You could have had bigger fights. You had the weird run at one forty. How, how do you view your run in the UFC as of right now? You know, a lot of things happen, who have see, like defied, everybody would like to watch like against run the Rawls never happen. And it semi guy say I'm scared to fire Monday rematch is descending guys save on. There was one fight me. Why did they find don't happen is no because need because I dropped will forty? I did the best. I can they make one thirty nine for their fights. And, you know, I think it did a lot of fights. See and a lot of fights no happen. Because they, they make like me against Michigan date me against run the Rosie me against GDR maybe rematch. If you Holly, maybe rematch with her mother in a lot of things, a lot of FIS don't happen defy defy the fans of the light. See. No. Just because he's because they didn't need their fights. You know, I think is a lot of fights people like to watch chill. And will you reach out to you? Your management to tell them that you do wanna fight Amanda that this isn't true. We've tried to clear the air clearing the right now but internally. Yes after defied defied this for rematch before I signed the U for fight Holly for five months. I said the like put out dometic rematch and my co my manage contact with Seve for should do the rematch and. You know, this ended done a sad, doesn't it man. We don't have the all fast rematch you know, she had to fight again. I'm going to have to fight again. Let's see what's going to happen. Do you think Amanda wants to rematch, or do you think she's part of the issues? Well. What I mean? Rematch me against her. Yeah. Do you think she wants it? Or do you think she doesn't want it? You know, she told me to wait two years, if I've said, whatever they want to she wants to do, because the less time, I'll wait nine months, and, you know, she's if she would like to fight the forces she, she can rematch soon, but for hundred for Washington, the rematch now she's on defendant flight one third five shoe shoe shoe on played games. She wanted to be champion the division and notion to play the game that C N westie no makers signed the chewed, the five she just signed a one fight won't Forty-five, right? And then can afford a fight either. What about getting to meet Ed Sheeran? I love at Sharon. How did that happen? I came to the show he in South Africa and really funded I know Cup amuse him. And like we like, but I have friends we love him. And we came to watch DVD's and very nice to meet him. Yeah. It's amazing. You've really been building up here YouTube channel. What's, what's the address of your YouTube channel again? Nationally cyborg. Chris eyeball Greece cyber. Yes. Nice to talk about is very cool. He just football. While the rematch if the water Nello, you guys gonna like I saw that is nice because the platform, making our channel because people don't know me outside. The cage is a very nice petunia for making more love for my fans and for no, who's the cyber who I am. And then Joe you know, we just passed flooded thousand people follows and have fun. I have fun doing videos and show. Little belove for my fans how difficult is that? How difficult try to squish the watermelon like Ben aspirin wants to. Nets hired rescue. I the champ about this. You know it's really hard times, and he's his about that. Maybe can won't be his me, but no easy. And you've also been working, I would Justin Wren, correct for the fight for the forgotten doing building the water wells in Africa that accurate. Yes, I went to Gunnedah. And do we put we went to piggy me strive? And I went over there that gives you put the two other wells. And they're working just is way. Amazing job of being amused. Thrived in tonight's teach Dan farm. Then teach it in get out to Joan going to leave in, in the CD Duca, and with the nice amend, is this thrift change my life. Wow. Trip to show me the strip show me, a lot of things that you can complain about nineteen. You know you wake up any morning who have amazing life you wake him? They wanted you'll have watering sink. You know, need to walk twenty thirty miles at twenty I don't know where and you know, changed my life a win. The Nys said Kim Chiu after my fight and help people in the C holiday ports, and you beauty word chain be very champs. Nice for you champion people's life. You know, make people remind member me just because I hold about. Because I do something. Nice for them came in. You are great person Chris, you do a lot of things for kids, you go. Visit the sick children. It's, it's amazing what you do your great role model and it's nice to see and hear that despite all the drama and the craziness and what happens you're in a good place. You're happy. You're getting ready for July twenty seventh I'm very happy to see that. I'm very happy to hear that. So I wish you the best training. Enjoy your time in South Africa. Chris good luck with everything. And we'll see you out there and Edmonton. Thank areo. Thank my fans that newly happy, go to Canada. Paul cyber nation be dead. And I'm back to the Cajun into my best and what I love to do. And that's when you hide into just wait for you guys, some Lavin. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Chris, we'll talk soon there. She is. Chris cyborg, approaching perhaps, the final fight on her UFC contract. We'll see how that all turns out, it has always been a bit of a rocky relationship, if you will, between the two sides, and I was surprised to hear that on, on Saturday. In all honesty. I mean, I think she's been very clear that she wanted the rematch and I don't understand why she would not want three Mechi doesn't strike me as to kind of person who would be afraid of anyone. She has fought anyone that has been put in front of her. So we'll see how it all turns out. It's, it's been interesting road. Chris, I Borg in the UFC and the potential last fight is July twenty seventh in Canada. Edmonton against Bush Spencer Spencer, got the show this detail. I've got I've got to give him this supposed to give him one of these and I forgot I wonder if we still here I guess I could bring it to New York if he's still here, I'd love to give it to him would be nice. All right. Thank you very much. Chris cyborg, in a matter of moments, I do believe we're going to be joined by the karate hottie Michelle Waterson. Get her take on the straw weight division. Get her take on where she fits in the whole title. Picture get her take on Tatyana Suarez all that and more later on. We'll be joined by king Mola wall and Calvin cater Henry, who does still to come so don't go anywhere. Let me tell you about our good friends over at ancestry DNA while we effort getting Michelle Waterson on the horn here. Ancestry DNA gives you so much more than just the places. You're from ancestry connect you to the places in the world. 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I hadn't seen my family in a while. So is good to hang out with their my needs just turned ten. So we did the Harry. Potter thing, you know, we're network owned by Disney. If you're in Florida, should've said that you're a dizzy to just sort of. The, the bosses here. But it's okay, it's okay we appreciate the honesty. I'm assuming you watched you to thirty eight this weekend. You know what I didn't get a chance to just got chance to watch the highlights of it. I was out here. Hanging out with my family and my, my niece and I wanted to give my full attention. Okay. I respect that even more. I appreciate that. I was watching, you see two thirty eight on Saturday night. And of course, there's this little race to see who will be next for the for the strawberry title, title fight, and I watched the Tatiana Suarez fight, and I tweeted moments afterwards, I said the big winner coming out of this fight is Michelle Waterson, because I felt like Suarez while she one and I know afterwards, he found out that she has an injured neck. And I still think that she's going to be a superstar and a potential future champion she's undefeated. She's very young. I just felt like she didn't put that explanation point. And then I felt like Michelle Waterson is the one and then to my surprise, the post FAI press conference, Dana white is asked about you, and he was like, Michelle Waterson. What she she's she's lower. I was like, what's, what's going? On here. Explain to me. What is going on here? There has to be more to the story. Dana, we've had a great relationship. I respect him. I think he's really busy. He has a lot on his hands. He has take care of a lot of fighters. And at the end of the day, he's probably given a breakdown or lineup of the fighters and just a list of the rankings, and he talks about the fighters that way. And in my opinion, if you're looking at the ranking, my opinion, I think the rankings are and. I feel like I have a great case against me, especially after what you just said. We're going off the last performances. Now. Tetiana is facing people ranked in the top ten and we see what happens when you start facing high-ranking girls, the competition becomes more steepen and it's hard to pop off. Good solid dominant performances the higher the competition. Okay. So do you feel like you're still? So basically, was I right. Are you the winner from Saturday? One hundred percent agree. I don't think it was enough to showcase that she was ready for a championship title fight. I feel like from what I've heard all my teammates and coaches back at home. Text me right away and said you got this in the Bank, whatever it is, you get the bell, and if they make you fights Yana than you got touchy on a two. They're just they see hole in her stand up. They see hold on a ground. Hold on a wrestling. In Meridian ready to take it, by the way. I think that's the first time I've ever heard you cuss before. It was incredible. It was the most amazing thing. I didn't know the karate hottie head that in her repertoire. That just shows how mad you are. You said the S word I you know, I reached the point in my career where if I'm not. It's hard to be humble when you fought for close to thirteen years in any just take whatever fight is given to you. You know, hoping that you can just earn your way up the ranking and then stuff like this happens where you went in fights in a row, you my last was super dominant. I want authors Lowndes real decisively. And I go down. And ranking it's just really confusing and to me frustrating. The rankings are mess. I agree with you. I don't even know who those people are to be honest, even know if they're real people, I don't even know if they're actual human beings who do those rankings. It's a bizarre thing. So I wouldn't put too much stock into them, but I thought another thing that was interesting that he says, like she does want to return until September October. I mean to be honest, it's June and they've got the July cards filled up and then we're talking about August, and that pay per view, essentially filled up as well, the one with DC so then we're talking about September October. I don't understand what the problem is there. Can you explain why he said that? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know what the answer to that is. I think that they might want to try to use me for something sooner than that, but I have my ice on the gold, and I feel like anything else that I take is going to keep me in the same spot that I'm in, and I think I just have to take a page out of its uptown at the book and just go for number one so that I can get the shot. Did you reach out to him after that? Okay. I don't know if my husband has are not though, he's the one that takes care of a lot of that stuff. But I'm going to the thing is fighters. They're gonna take whatever fight if given to them. And that's why it's to your manager to, to be on the business end of it and take care of all the other stuff. Dana knows that. I want the the shot. I mean, I've been. I've been going around talking to everybody about it hosting at us utilizing my own social media. It's tell people why want at why think I'm deserving of it, and I don't think I am out of place by asking for it is a little bit exhausting to just worry about the fighting and all that stuff. Now you have to go on this almost like this campaign to convince the world that you should be next. But I feel like at the level that I'm at this is what I have to do. Okay. So it's not something that you, you are too annoyed by you get. It's part of the territory, so to speak. I think so. And I guess I can kind of be a bit proud of that, that I have reached that level where now there has to be a bit of negotiation. There has to be a little bit of. All right. Well what do we do now? And, and that's what we're at. How will you react if they don't give it to you? I'm still training. I'm still fighting about if they don't give me the belt. I, I want number one number two, and that's rose, who has obviously already spoke about wanting to take a break, and I commend her for that. She's honest with herself and really hard for fighters to do that nowadays. And people don't understand like when you're fighting at that caliber, of taking those caliber fights how, how much stress it can be on you on your family on your spouse. And so, you know, she's just being honest with yourself in the next person after that is China. So if they don't give me the belt at least let me Tutsi on a fight for who gets to fight for the bell, even ask you for that. You're not showing away from Tatyana. It seems like a lot of other photos are. No, not at all. Especially after this weekend. Right. You weren't impressed by what you saw. No. And also. You know, when you get to the caliber, we all have the same amount of set skills, I feel like a town has done a great job at utilizing her strengths to win the fights. But, but now at the level that she's broken through she has to face, you know, she has to be able to understand what it takes to get past. Your first answer. If you I shut down what happened with your second answer, and I do understand injury. But injury is a part of every fighters fight camp. We all we all go through it. It's not something like out of the norm. You feel she's over hoped. No, I think that she is she's good. But I do feel like. A lot. I don't think they should be. Like comparing her to be not that long ago. Yeah. I think wrestling is really good. But this is and you know, obviously the longer that she's in the Marshall, grow and get better. But at this moment, I don't think that she's ready for championship light, okay? You were in Brazil, you saw the drudge. I'm Eunice fight in person. What did you make obviously on drudge won the fight? But let's be real. She did not win the first round rose. Look phenomenal in the first round. What did you make of her performance overall? You're absolutely right. I feel like Rosa's winning a couple of shots more. And I think that it would have been TKO for rose. I think that it was great on, on judges parts. Go back into your corner. Don't take a deep breath, reca- the herself in and go up there. She knew I think that if they went five rounds it was going to be tough night for her. So I think she knew she had to finish it, and finish it the best way she knew how, which is with a pile driver signature move. But when you saw the did your confidence, I take, like she's not the boogie woman that everyone is making her out to be right. I mean, I think we all saw that when she fought you wanna, and I think Rogge's took a page out of a book only difference. With Rosen Yuan is rose likes to takes risks and times. And that's because she's really confident in her jujitsu and unfortunately it didn't play out for her that time, but hinted, the day we all do really, just we read the same believe the same blood. Yes. And Joshua tied. Yes. She is really good with no take down. It's a fight right? Anything can happen in a fight. And you've been looking amazing as of late. Are you injured by the way or are you hundred percent? One hundred percents my family in training to get better every day. So this idea that, like you're asking for more time off or anything like that, not true. Asking for time off. I'm asking for the right fight. You want the proper fight you wanna fight for the belts you wanna proper training camp? You wanna get what's yours. You want to get what you deserve. What you earn. I do. I think it's. There's just so many people behind me, so many people that believe in me. You know, I've struggled I've gone through the ups and downs. I know what it's like to be a champ. I thought five around fights before I've defended my belt, I fought for a main card in the UCI fought for the biggest fight on the UFC. I will rise to the Cajun. Give me a chance. Let me be US's mom champ. That's all I'm asking. I mean, you've been pushing for that for a long time, and that really means a lot to. That's not just like a gimmick hashtag, this is something that you really want, you want to be the first mom champ in UFC history. Why does that mean so much to? I know how much sacrifice parents, put into their children, and I want to give parents all the round the world something to be proud of. Getting emotional now. A little bit. Don't pie aerial. Oh, I was just letting you do your thing, I was just letting it all come out. It's raining outside, you know. Yeah. That's what it is. No. But this, I appreciate the fact that means a lot to and that it's never been done. And this is like you said thirteen years, and I remember not that long ago. They thought your career might have been over with all the injuries the hand injuries and that you wouldn't be able to realize your dream of fighting and having a UFC run, and now you're on the cuss. And they're saying that what Michelle Waterson, she's to rank no show. Waterson deserves it. I'm here to say. I'm on your side on this, Michelle. Right. I will be honest. I thought of Tatyana did something spectacular maybe she'd get the nod. But I don't feel like that happened on Saturday. And that's no knock on her. She's very young. It just wasn't the kind of performance that you need to tell everyone that you're next. And that's why it should be you. Absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yes. What do we have to do you need me to call Dana for you? What do you want me to do? Yes. Personally just you know, put them good work for me. Okay. No. You don't want that to happen. Actually make things worse for you. But I, I hope it happens and up until this point, there's been no talks no negotiations. No nothing reached out about it. I don't know. You're not asna has been about that. Where's your husband? I feel he's like two inches away from me right now. Oh, hey, Josh are you. Good. Not right away. Well, I mean, the headphones kinda gave it away, 'cause it was just sort of dangling on the other end. What can you tell us about that? So no just everything sessile is, is accurate. Right. We're waiting to see what happens. I'm with you on on everything. I've heard in some of the highlights that I've seen to Kiana didn't do enough. I I'm with you. If she would have completely dominated, I think it would have been tough, and we would have definitely had to wait. But right now. No based off of that performance in my opinion. Who, who else would would make a good fight right now with Andros like me, Michelle agree. If rose wants rematch. She deserves it for sure. But it sounds like rose wants to hang out relaxed forbidden. We understand that. So who else? Yup. I agree. Yeah. And that, of course, is, I guess the big question all this, and I thought when Dana was saying that at the post fight press conference, maybe they were going to try to get her to come back. But by all indications she wants time off, and I think she deserves it. That was a scary fall. And sometimes, I think would be good for the soul. And if they want on drudge to come back quickly. There you are waiting ready, ready. One hundred percent we'd be up for it, and it wouldn't have to be September, right? We'd we'd get coaches right away and happen in August. Right. But no. I think on drugs to is probably gonna wanna fight. I'm assuming. September October, maybe even December. But yeah, no, no. There's no we're ready to go. If that fight was presented. We'd be ready to go right away. All right. Well, I appreciate you guys clearing the air here today. And I also know you're on vacation, so I appreciate you doing this in the midst of it all, but it was a good time because it was raining. There's not much to do in Florida when it's raining, so I don't feel as guilty as I richly did nonetheless. I appreciate the time, and you guys coming on and clearing the air, and I hope it works out truly in your favor because you guys deserve it. Thank you, and one of them raptors. Yeah, about them. Raptors are boys on minorities probably all hyped up right now. Right. Of course he did it right now. He did the fight mom documentary, which is phenomenal. So the Carter affect about Vince Carter, and did you guys ever see that one? Did you guys see that documentary? It's great, right? It's amazing. I actually watched it last week to, to remember how far the team has come. So, yes, we're gonna do tonight guys, we're going to do it. And we'll be out there in August. Hopefully we can celebrate with all of you guys. What do you do in August here? I am with my flight. Seminar in Calgary to raise money for nonprofit Emma may programs that's put together with wink and his wife a lot more news out here in the next couple of weeks. Okay. Cool. All right. Joy your vacation again. Thank you very much for the time. And good luck getting that fight. We got your back. Thank them. All right. There she is the karate hottie Michelle Waterson. Her lovely husband, Josh Waterson. And those are my thoughts I put them down on paper on ESPN dot com. Earlier today. It just didn't seem like she had done enough Tatyana think she's phenomenal. I think she's going to be a future contender, but it didn't exactly while the crowd then you find out about her neck injury. And you understand that being said, Michelle's on a roll roses the big question, Mark if she wants to come back, I think she deserves it because of how good she looked. Michelle's ready to go. Chill p come back. I wanted to give you this. I'm sorry for making come back. But a nice, man named Brandon made this for us. He made us this man. Yeah. Custom-made. There's only three of these holy smokes. He made this for us. And I thought it would be great to give it to you. And they told me that I could give it to the week. But I'm gonna forget tremendous just like us. Can I tell you one quick story because you gave me this and I feel like I have to say something I ordered a bobblehead of myself doll. When was I made is very exciting moment, I ordered it on EBay it came. I looked like dominant cruise, but I get it put it away in my office, sat out about a month later sending my and I look at it across it was dominant crew. I ordered the wrong one, but I thought that it was you get it looks like Brandon to know this is fantastic. I'm very hard to do. It's a beautiful thing is Brandon ever. Did it? I could leave Lee wants to come back. Please take all the cupcake. I felt like she wanted it with right? Did I read that wrong on? What are we taking him back? Listen, but enjoy all this, and then all women two and a half hour. Right. It's a whole big thing. It was an awkward exchange because I felt like she thought that I was going to give it back. Right. My wrong, you're wrong, right? Totally wrong. She just wanted for the set. I don't know what she wants taking one of each take four of each one hand. Well, you could come take him to, to you and Brandon, wonderful job. And thank you. All right. Okay. Good. Bye. Take take one of each yet. Do you want more than two? Are you? Sure. What about your mom? What about your father in law? All right. Bye-bye. Okay. Oh, good for him does any curves. I'm gonna put my back here. Enjoy the cupcakes guys. Now we have a little bit of a whole here on the desk. I'm going to close the gap. All right. Matter. Moments or a matter of seconds. Let's say Hello to my favorites in the business. We go from one of my other favorites to the man himself king Mola wall who announced his retirement seven days ago today, and I said to myself, all right? I know it's seven days, but we gotta have mom, and this is how big of a deal, this is king mo-, I do believe has never done by show via Skype. He refused. I said, king MO, you, retire, you come on via Skype. So thank you for doing it because I know you didn't want to. Oh, good. You know, I got you, my man, king MO, well, congratulations on a great career mo-. Why did you retire now? Man Tschumi injuries. I can't train the way I want to, you know. And I just I just couldn't my body looking recovering. I just I just can't do it. No more man. And then top of that, I would I got the feel like I saw ROY McDonald doing energy after a fight state. Now, they wanna hurt nobody and I might damn I feel the same way. Oh, is weird. Because when I was younger, I was like mama smashes do on my heard him. And then like recent Mike, you know it if I can just be them up and just stop in stopping, but I want hurting about it. Got the point where I just didn't wanna hurt. Nobody that. And my body's beat up this old man. Wow. So when ROY said that it really spoke to you. Spoke to I'm hoping ROY, I'm hoping ROY had a bad day 'cause I think is great editor and I know he's very young in the sport. I'm hoping he's had a bad day. He's not feeling that because that's how you, wow. How long have you been feeling that way for? About a year and a half. Wow. So you multiple times feeling that way. Yeah. Just is we're might now I want I wanna leave hurt Nobel engine body because a really almost also injured in practice houses worried about outweigh about myself injured. So I was like Maggie. No, I gotta be smart for myself. And that's how we're about myself get into so much by engine other people as well. So I just got to pause like, no it out. Enough harm people. No more man, I'm gonna try she'll mammy legs teach Ness about it. When you start to feel that way, you've been competing for so long. I in wrestling now, now, an MA does that kind of play tricks on your mind? You're like, whoa, what are these feelings? This is just a complete shift from how I used to feel. Yeah. Man. I think you feel like that it's time except the game because, you know, you're stepping into the cage or the rain or the field or whatever you're doing with somebody wants to harm you. There's once a knock you up that wants to break your bones, you should be going to the cage or the ring on the field digging that used to be somebody not harm them as well. The moment that the moment that we start feeling like that is a moment just about the game. And I started having them as well as injuries my by night here in bags passed. And now I've been losing weight man. Just getting old, okay. Mold man. How old are you? Eight thirty eight and you're young thirty eight. I've had probably had over forty surgeries forty forty? Yeah. Damn. When was the last one? Last one was my minor. Hip in when did you have that years ago? I didn't tell them by I had Birmingham. So right now I got all of my hip Quin jacket by a winch LA had cedar done. I'm the first combat athletes, come back at a high level. I guess. This seizure done. So now I had metal. You. He'll all of my right? Hip. It's you have actually fought with this a couple times. Three times with damn. And how do you feel different? Yeah. Different night is because if I go anyplace where it's like seventy alone, I could feel the metal in my hip own. My gosh. Is crazy management. Abu running for five moon, I feel clanking. I hear I hear clanking middle. My hip is that just due to wear and tear. Well, it's the surgery. No, no. I mean like why did you have the surgery where tear? Man. Okay. I was going on. What about quitting Jackson? The second time I had two cores shot in a week span, and it didn't do. And then afterwards you have to have it. Yeah because accurate. I went to wrestlemainia landowner. It was a great time. But I I could really what I was struck and getting around. That's what new magazine. Certain tire got the surgery done. I feel good. But I could feel the metal it's we I could field member. My hit. Moon is we know what? So your last fight was, in late, April for Reisen when you left that night, did you know that was it for you? You know what? Yeah. I was I was I was up in the air. But I was like, you know, be it because you know, I can't jog. I can't I can't really can't be spread. I can't jump. Athletic ability. I had the way the niece certain the hit certain is in static fiction. So I just last started the add man, and I can't trade while chino more. Thank man. So I just met like knows that name. Okay. And you leave with regrets. No, man. You know, the by games a fight game man. We all have regrets, and we all the same time, like I don't care what I'm saying. I'm saying much Ogle. Now's this me to help others. Get them where I got. The fact that you never got the fight in the UC. Because Mullane go in you. I always say mangoes have fun get champion. Get paid. I never was never stuck on youth. Seen knows I just wanna come into good and get paid man. And I'm like, quick chat team because the while team go ship really freight tree. They Hinson meta. Shankill Ranko, tiller mandolin those the guy that looked up to the hammer house to teen. Kind of maybe more instrument in Japan. The innate e Tom knows bar, say society them because they don't get never spent they'll get talked about, because they were the first to wave of world class wrestlers step foot into the cage. Right. Amen to that one hundred percent so you mentioned you don't have that same desire to hurt someone. But it sounds like you're going to stay in the sport involved in the sport as a coach and your sensually teaching other people how to hurt other people. So how do you how do you juggle that? Well, it's cool. I could teach you oughta harm somebody, and you do it. I'm cool. But it's just me. I'm not cool doing myself. I'm not I'm not about hurting nobody, I think all the fighting has gone on all the competition like all the wrestling all the it's not anymore. I'm like, I'm just chilling now man, you know this about it chilling watch film, watching sites, and I'm, I'm gonna, but the future can do with America's team. I wanna see the youth America team. Take take take. Game a whole different level. So you're, you're gonna remain as a coach at ATT in south Florida. Oh, wow. You're going to be phenomenal coach. You're one of the smartest guys I've ever met in this sport. I think this is perfect for you. Thanks right now. I'm behind the future is we coach Conan. Yeah. Ma'am. People might Brown dis Marco. We have a we have a highly the best coaching staff, inmate and at the same time I underrated. I agree. I couldn't agree more. I think Mike Brown has turned into one of the best coaches in the game. The other guys that you mentioned dean Thomas. Steve MacOS phenomenon I saw a picture with him and just recently, that's that's huge for destined to have Marco by side you as well. Now in the mix, it's incredible. And so, have you already started working with anyone there, any young guys young, females anyone that you're really excited about have you already started to forge those relationships coach student? I've been fortunate over the past two years, okay? Is is only reveal the name some high level similar because when it comes down to it as a coach with knee is more at the fighters. So if anything the fires mentioned that most working with the mess cool, but for me the most part, I'm not mentioning names. Let's the fires Mitch my name flirts. Okay. Not like that. And we'll just be your full time job. So right now I enjoy into Jim, I enjoy Washington's guys worked. So right now a fulltime job as coach America team. Okay. I love it. You look back at your career so many great moments, there's, there's one that comes to mind for me. But I'm wondering for you. Is there is there, one moment that sticks out your favorite moment? The happiest that you ever were. Now happy. Happiest but I tell you this man lights, when moment okay win the belt, we talk like I'm when the Bill it was bigger sleep, because even when I didn't care like my main, my main dream was a win the Olympics man. And, and when I think about that, she said, because I came short and that, that was my main biggest dream Olympic champion became a world champion may. But I felt like I wanted more in amateur wrestling. You're talking about the moment in Nashville, after you beat Giger, Mussa, correct. And you're lying down the you're saying that, that's your favorite moment. Women moments. That's why I realized really m as shorts her make believe in the sense. It's not your real, right? What you do to push yourself and to, to challenge yourself. But when it's all said, dance I'll say done such a real life is just fantasy. So that might be my favorite post fight interview ever. I showed the clip. Yeah. I, I posted I posted the clip a couple of weeks. I don't know if you saw it you were lying down. And you were very motion, Casey. And I were in the back in Nashville on their forget that because we didn't often get to go in the back to interview, the fighters right after, and you could tell how much the moment meant to. And you said that you're always second place, and you never got that big one. I'll never forget that for as long as I live. I'm so grateful that you let us have that moment and let us be part of that. So I'm kind of blown away that you even remember it to be honest. Amera meant air. Member member in Ohio. Really? Running and. A real press. Not because it's true man I right now. The media's gone. Right now. It seems stronger song. Like what's going on? With ima media, I more knowledge in this, too. Wait music going. Alfred and the made me sharp. Great. I'm glad to hear that you still watching wrestling these days. Man, you Awa that's Fiji. Moxley. I'll gladly age alma watch more granted, they have great athletes, but on their impacts in a w is where it said what about new Japan? He but I said Japan. Okay. They're all they all worked together. You know, AAA, they're all in the same, same mix. You actually watch impact for real. Watching the matches. I know people are in really match. I tune in to watch the matches you. I'm saying, okay. It's hard to catch. On, on to how do you think your boy Kane is going to do in AAA? Came into school. I think it'd be all right. Listens. Yeah. Good coach saw him the ropes that somehow the rules laser stuff. That'd be. All right. You seal bond did is wanna do do. A Matt reels in the bay seeing the basin. Four more after. Now's topping emanates jump into a wrestling, and instantly cyborg was at the W showed. Did you see that? Yeah. Asking tweeting aid. Our eight bedding. Bingo head puts out awesome Kong attention. Oh, yeah. Ain't nobody. So when I asked you about maybe some grits, like, are you regretful over the fact that the, the wrestling career didn't work out for you? Well, you know what? I still do the do independent shows, I got matched to, to. Wrestling realizing booking. I do. I'd be maximum shot. The w. Pablo out there. They're going to school in my in my again cleaned up. Yeah. But I'm been my goal is to be a jobber. Eighty to really kick. You take a super can hangman pay me. Hey, whatever. Man eight eight. If you're watching, I'll be the problem. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. I was gonna say Brooklyn brawler iron Mike Sharpe. Barry Horowitz, like one of those jobbers, but the ones that come up from time to time England cat weasel. Yes. Rogers shots Rogers to rescue coast, Rogers out there in the OB, Debbie shock. Oh my gosh, this could you? But I think you're famous to be that guy like, like it's too big of a deal for you to shop. You're not just some random schmo. No. It's not change, though. Oh as matter of fact is new wants ones. Casting orange Cassidy, okay? And it's a dip Assad is not wrestling. Okay. Pretty he can work. It's pretty funny orange casting orange Cassidy, you're watching you're watching more wrestling than MMA, these days, I feel like. I was both. I watch them all. Okay. And the may pro wrestling boxing on watching it. Oh, yeah. My guy Andy REEs. You saw that, right? I watch crazy injuries. I cope, it him years ago. When Elijah McCall avocado son watch them at the New Orleans atop rank car wash them. Now might this guy special now beat Joe Hanks next fighting I just partnered New Zealand. I thought this by anti Josh was anti, Josh is listening. To be Andrew. Tizoc near Andrew wings. I think him and they'll just been the deed, as all Mexican, though, the best combination of right now, you're seeing that just have been this. I was like, wait, one of these guys not like the other Cheyenne shot be. Yeah. Hands. He will watch him more. You're the man I could talk fighting with you all day. But unfortunately, we're out of time. I really appreciate you doing this most. Specially doing it on Skype because why are you so camera shy? You never liked to do it on Skype. I just like no no, no. I just as fast as call. How hang up did you actually? Download Skype just for us. I doubt Lescot Skype. Last night. Yeah, this is one of the great honors of my life right here. That king MO actually downloaded Skype just for us. That's amazing. I gotta same in when you came out back to the days, send Goku with the umbrella and the girls and all that stuff like you brought showmanship to this game. You brought fun to this game. I remember team thirsty GDP all that stuff. More the crowd? I mean look, it's a hudo so who does doing what you were doing. Ten years ago, my man, you were doing that. Exact same thing. He's taking a page out of your playbook. And so I hope the game remembers you and treat you on that you can impart some of that knowledge, what you did in the cage. But also, you did out of the cage to get people to care about you to some of these new fighters that you're working with, at AT, the younger fighters, and you're always so good to me on their forget. When you said that I was like I was working for FOX for one week when you said, and they're all like this fighter just said something about you at the press covers, you may me seem like the coolest guy in the world and I'll never forget that. So thank you for everything. Thank you for everything men. Congratulations on great career a great run. You have nothing. To be regretful about, you've had an amazing run. And I hope that you have a great career as a coach. I have. No daniel. And you should be a media guys. Well, you've always been that good. So I hope you get to do more of this stuff as well too. Hope I chance Matt thank all right? 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How are you? I'm doing good are aria. How you doing? I'm doing great. Congratulations. On the win. Are you still in Chicago as well? Yeah. Yeah. I'm here to Tuesday. What are you doing over there for so long? I had a lot on the list that I wanna do, but never really know. Things things are going to play out. You have good idea, but I pushed my flight back Tuesday. So hit Wrigley field yesterday. The, the hut dog spots around here, the deep spots, I got a whole crew. So they've been writing reviews all week to help me. I get it all in by Tuesday. Have you had any of the pizza yet? I have I have luminaries seems to be in the lead is the front runner is now. How about you? I didn't have pizza this time around, but I did have luminaries in the past. It's very deep. It's very thick the pizza. I don't know how I feel about on us. Yeah. And then a couple of slices probably hurting. But that's something you can't really omit when you visit Chicago, you always gotta tell me how to deep dish, how many I feel like they take offence to it? They do. They're very sensitive about it. How many trips to the pizza places did you go to this time so fat, I can't tell you that I can't tell you. But I last ship Martin, they had us leave at like seven AM eight and the next morning me. And font both got held up in Montreal missed flights. It's tough Manta to leave on a Sunday morning after those events, usually have family, friends fly in from all over, you want to spend some time with them for, you know, hitting four or five AM at the earliest, and now you've got a pack up and leave in two hours after getting in a fistfight. We might have some things bruises, right? No, it's good. You're taking some time off and I appreciate you doing this in the midst of your, your time off. By the way. I wanna give a shout out. I don't know who they are. But two, I guess of your friends cornered me in the hotel on Thursday afternoon. Do you know about? This and they said, yo, when are we going to get Calvin on the show, and then I said, well how about if he wins and they said, all right? It's a deal. So I just want to let the record show that I'm a man of my word. Yeah, I can't confirm or deny that. But I'll make a call. And make sure we take off the hound dogs. Right. I appreciate it. Because they were a little timid eating. Yeah. You know, get sometimes out here, Boston, man. They don't if you say you're gonna do something, you don't do it. Yes, they might find you for not doing it. But now that's cool. Man. They say you're good sport. I gotta be honest to. I had a little chip on my shoulder. You still interviewed me yet. And I'm always looking for ways to get a chip on my shoulder. I wonder if I got your respect yet that maybe you're gonna interview next time we'll here you are. You're on my show. What this, it's not just you. It's not just you if you know what the media day. I'm enjoying it in my head. I'm telling myself, I'm Nakas sky out, these future media scrums. I'm not gonna sit down actually enjoy my lunch like I did. So I actually found a lot of enjoyment chilling out lax in not have my hands full with a bunch of but at the same time zone like that won't be like that in the near future. Okay. So you know what I'm happy that you said this Calvin, I truly am. Let's, let's be honest here because I've tried to tell the people around me that, look, I feel like I need to talk to everyone on media day because people take personally, when I don't like you saw me media day. I didn't have time talk to you, and you said beyond that you said, if that guy, right? You said, screw that guy to everybody I say to everybody at the time it comes out on the phone Mahabir nice day, but. Yeah. No, it's good man. Any reason to get a chip, like I said, but it's great to be talking. I appreciate you. Having me on the show. Okay. Cool, by the way, do long long overdue, but we're here now my bad. My bad here. I am I'm making. Are you a Bruins fan as well how yeah baby game seven, wow? Get my ass, sweets. But I gotta let Connor yet. But I know. Yeah. Maybe uncle Dana hook you up your to Boston guys, maybe queue up. Did you ask him? That could be. My phone is Senate didn't get the other night. But allow. But, but being able to fight you know like the UFC off the renegotiation team came down there. And I couldn't be happier fight for anybody else now. No best orgnization the world. Well, how Kelvin's got a few chips on his shoulder. I like it. I respect it. Yeah. You see some supplement show at sei pumping emulator. Tom Brady get sick Super Bowl rings them. What's his favorite? He said the next one, you know, how's that guy, not complacent? Find always want everything. Right. That's a good point. So did you recently resign? I did before the last fight thankfully, so after the fish will fight iron my contract. I got a four fight deal. And what a way to start off the first fight of the four fight contract incredible. Yeah. You walked in there and I loved about a great performance against veteran, Chicago guy, the place when so quiet afterwards. If you notice that did you? Honestly, what I noticed more than the silence afterwards was how loud cot when they when they announced him. And it was great man. I was just like no, I wanna be a part of whether it's a side of the decide bring fans out of the seats and putting on a good show for also I felt like we did that and I could have done it without a guy like Ricardo to fulfill that stadium in energy going in the wrong for me to then. Silence. It beautiful finishes world, the left hook, and then the right and you said something afterwards about how it seemed to me in correct me if I misinterpreted this, the you feel like for the most part, like the boxing MMA, the boxing in new of is sort of elementary, and that you've been doing this for a long time, and you're doing stuff that isn't super complex, but you're just really crisp on your feet and now you're able to show it off. Is that what you're trying to say that you're just a better boxer than a lot of these guys in even with just like the basics because a lot of these may fighters? Don't focus on boxing or don't have that knowledge going into the game. I'd say basics always win fights in anything, really, don't talk about the basics and repetition, and consistency of them. But I would say these guys are elements of oxygen. And if they are the ones that aren't think that's just because they're choosing stay at that level. You know there are guys that in the division. They have great hands that could probably be very successful boxing. Probably take out a lot of boxers. But at the high highs in the level, they are different sports. I always compare it to like running. There's a sprinter in America today, both run, but it's just different sports. But I think there's a happy medium when, when you talk boxing MMA that I don't think that these guys are really just getting in work with the boxers, the guys at punch, the best they wrestle with the wrestlers. They do ju jitsu jujitsu guys. But, and then they do some stand up with, you know, maybe kickboxing, feel like due to my experience of the boxing, I felt like I'm able to deal with some of the hottest shots taking giving. Ideally, get him but yeah. Ex- around man. There's no way around. You gotta get the rounds in. And I feel like that's a big advantage. I have against these guys, so you had a ten ten winning streak and then you met Connell. Last April drop that one since then to finishes that loss change anything in you. How did you react to that? You know, the piss me off definitely hates lose more, and I love the win definitely made me experience those feelings again and I'm happy to get that my mouth, the last two fights renegotiation was huge, especially after my first L one time and two hundred to one out the. I felt like that would have been close in the chapter of the book a little too soon. And I, I was I didn't want to let that go. So that was that was pretty amazing itself. But after that, fight really what I took from, from the flight was what kind of lost by a take a look now at where he is. He's headlining con against the Koreans on the chamber of Albany. He was ranked higher than me. Today's bill. After big on the cups Swanson. So the else don't define it's how you act after. And I feel like we've lost back strong as well, and we're climbing top, and it should be make for an interesting finish line. You mentioned something in the post fight interview that I wanted to ask you, you talked about a friend of yours who passed away last year. And you were giving people some advice about speaking up if they were going through any personal issues, could you tell us a little more about what happened? Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. His name's Joel gigli Audie, who's my growing up my best buddy and just last month, we lost him. And it just home of it more. Like I said to get chip on everything a chip on my shoulder to everything because day in day out way what can aiding they control it in the Arctic on, you know? And it's how you deal with that, that matters day in day out in happens all Kampman, every, every can't some new realize that, you know, can break you, if you don't respond to it, right? So. Joel. I'm finally able to kind of process. It more was really had my shield on can't, but I wanna earn the opportunity to grab the mic afternoon. Just express that, you know, vote great to have that opportunity to say and just saying, his story just if you're going through addiction, you're struggling make it's up to seek out because it's not it's your family and friends that are carrying the weight your grief. So. Now we see him one day soon. But until then. And put it on all these featherweights. And, and I know he'll be in my corner. Was that something that you were planning on doing or did it just occurred to you in that moment? No, I really trying to wanted to amend a lot to me to have that opportunity. But you only get the Mike when you win. Right. So first things first, I had a handle business. And, and I find a lot of ways to get chips on my shoulder all week and. Get the job on earth. The opportunity to pay respects do on ESPN house, nothing's better than that, man. And from my mom, she's been there in my corner, since day one, and I was happy to, to just have a checkpoint small, and brief checkpoint knowing that. Hey, we're on ESPN baby climbing. Yeah. I noticed you mentioned that you also wanted to see your highlight on sportscenter. And I think you got that, that ten Mark as well. Correct. Hell yeah, Donna, that's here that since I was a kid, man. It was awesome. It was really surreal, Chicago's mcbrayer, all week, everything folk great kind of weird, and it's always weird when that happens, but it's feeling more calm and air. I was I must say yawn. Two hundred times back on, like, man. We wake up, you gotta get a fistfight rain on I don't know. I'm a little more relaxed in there, not to say take anybody or opportunities light. But it's feel more comfortable man, and it's good feeling and competition, stepping up pay. Wrapping up and risk them. Obey gets off on excited. It's very opportunity in front of me. Is it possible that the loss? Maybe made you comfortable took a little pressure off of you. Could be fair to say that I always put a lot of pressure on myself every time I step in there and, and really for a lot of weed reason sometimes I know all the people had a support the in in watching the fight right now. I wanna solve come up and win. I picked not the place. That's watching my flight sitting at the table. They might dependent on whatever support in the flight and killing the party at, like twelve at night, now going to keep that going. I want these guys Ambaum with pop and balls. All over all over, you know, wherever I'm at Boston city, every, so I like to keep the night, Goma man. And this has been a fun run. I'm excited to be on it, and teen cater Cain. Mania come with me every saw. And it's it's been an awesome experience, especially since like I was saying seems like everybody all get together for. These days is weddings and funerals. And this is just not really come together and have a hell of a week man. Everyone comes fight leak and supports who do you want next? The great question. It's really nice to not give a shit. I don't I don't care who it is. But someone above me for sure. I hear they come at Boston sometime in the fall. I love the headline it and order headline a car. I don't think you really pick opponent. So they tell me who I got fight to get on that headline spot. And let's do it. I can't. I can't wait. Okay. So. You still got swear. No, it's all good. It's all good. We're a little in way. But mino- name comes to mind. Bailable honestly Tyson deal all that. I come in train hard, no more priority right now on these raw font in South Carolina than two weeks. He's gonna do work. We're going to enjoy subsequent the over there and international fight week. And then get back to work, but hopefully a TD Boston guarded card. Can you can you put in a good word for me with rob font? I feel like rob. Font. Doesn't like Massimo question. One time. He shut me down. What's what's up with all you guys because of from Montreal you hasn't from Boston? You don't like me. What's the problem here? Now, I sometimes think rod likes me, the may okay, this is the culture man. You know, it's real competitive, we push each other to the limits. And that's my row dog man about putting into work all talk to talk to some Keiko COE could do man. Since you got me on the show. I'll do the software. You I appreciate it. We'll congratulations. Enjoy Chicago don't have too much pizza because maybe they'll call your numbers sooner rather than later. So just a couple more points. I see them high. See they're hanging on. They're hanging on, but you're looking great. Enjoy the win joy the town and good luck to the Bruins in game seven, I have to say I don't feel like the city of Boston needs another championship. So I will say I'm rooting against you guys. But good luck to nonetheless. I'd say thanks if we needed to look baby all day. I love sorrow. All right. Take care of Calvin cater big win for 'em on Saturday. Gets Ricardo lamas and out to big Papi. David Ortiz, who apparently is going through some, some issues right after being shot in the leg in the Dominican Republic just a couple of days ago. Very scary situation. But the last report that I read was that he is doing okay. And that the surgery went well, so big ups to big Papi. David ortiz. All right. So that is Calvin cater story. Big win for him on Saturday. In a matter of moments, we're gonna talk to Marla Marissa's head coach Marquette who, of course was in Marlins corner on Saturday for that mate of infighting Henry, pseudo late in the program. We will talk to Henry Suharto. We have Mark, okay? No problem, no problem, no prom. Corporate shake really patrol. Patrol cracking the whip. Shoutout to the Chicago. Police a gentleman who is a member of the police force attended the event on Friday. The Hawaii roadshow and asked me, if I represent the Chicago policeman. And I'm very proud to do so, so there it is right over there. Thank you very much to that gentleman. I don't recall name. In fact, I had my t shirts are over there. All right. Forget that we could grab that after if you don't mind bringing my bag over there. But for now, let us say Hello to our next guest. He is the head coach for Marlin rice. He was in Marlins corner on Saturdays kind enough to join us. Mark Henry, joining us on the phone, Mark. How are you? So, so how you doing, buddy? I'm doing okay. I appreciate you doing this very much, especially after the laws. This is a tough one for you. Right. One of the toughest name Marlin is one of my closest friends, and it's eight years of, you know, we I many other and just having this dream known as such a massive drink for himself, I family, I country, you know, and. An eight years ago, you knew it was just when he got his shot. So, you know, it's crushing today, you know. You know. All our self up, and I know he'll have another title shot, and, and, you know, and get on that street before, but for today, just sucks. How's he handling it? Anybody think anybody like him what, you know, who's like a phenomenal fighter in a man, which means and aspirins and, and, you know, not that not too happy. You and correct me from wrong. You were very confident going into this fight, correct? One of the most was confident I've ever been, you know, like I've been, you know, catfights Franken, he's always going against so much. You know, like with the height and the weight, and the range, you know, and I just thought that Morlin was superior you know, in a lot of aspects, you know, with speed and power and has that Josie Aldo type wrestling defense. So I gotta sad a ton of confidence going in and camp was just going perfect. You know. No, he had grates. He had great sparring partners. And now in the last eight years, and, and, you know, if you just can't say three months, and, you know, how he was gradually getting better, better better, and these last four fights. It wasn't just the last three fights of him knocking. People out was the camps as well. He was just in so many things so much better. And just probably one of the most confident ever been not for a title fight, but a fight period, first round went really well, correct. I'm assuming you're really happy after that first round. Yeah, it was really happy. I was I was a little nervous at the end. You could hear us all yelling at the end. I was Ricardo Mike man's. He's gonna gas. We gotta be careful because he's low enough a ton ahead cakes and every right like hick was so hard. And you can help. Here is all I think you could help. You could hear me Ricardo an innocence, Crema, comma, comma, comma, which calmed down because he was throwing so hard and. And so we, we're little worried that he was. Every thrown everything, bad intentions, one thing that I worried about, as I was watching that because it did seem like he was getting tired, and as you said, loading up and trying to hit Henry with everything he had his very powerful guy, but it did seem like he was he was starting to slow down a little bit. Did he really dislike Henry that much to the point where he was not sticking with the game? Plan was just trying to finish the guy because he felt a certain way about him. It was clear that he did not like him from the moment. This fight was announced where you worried about him fighting to mostly. Now because it kind of I wasn't because he had beef when, you know, another fighter in the past and it worked in his advantage. So that's why you know it wasn't really talked about because I knew that it worked to his advantage last time. You know, okay, what did you? You know that, that aggression, I thought, you know, maybe workout, welcome, because it had before what did you tell them in between the first and second round and do feel key straight away from the game plan in the second and third. Yeah. Believe that. It doesn't matter what the game plan was know. I'm really? I really think that hell he'll get this fight again. So I don't wanna go to dwell too deep into it, but. You know, we thought I thought he was doing well, we just wanted him to calm down a little bit. But you know what he was doing was how he kind of envisioned things gallon, you know. So the first little was going very well. And you know in the first round when when. Henry always every fight. I see him he tries to bring precious. So we knew it was gonna try to impress your new even guys that we're trying to bring pressure on during camp and. And when. He was bringing fresher while was throwing three punch combinations, throwing them from different angles, underneath, and so on, and so forth. And we thought that was a that would help and it did it backed off at back them off. Not only did it kicks kinda have Henry on his wheels. But that fast combination through so fast and back off also. So we wanted a little more than that as opposed to trying to trying to defend hands with the Moi style like shelled up as opposed to just keeping distant key movement. Like you've seen more on his other flights did anything that Henry did in the fight surprise you. No, not at all that he fights with pressure all the time. So not all he leaves with his right analyzed, so absolutely nothing. The only thing that surprised me was. Henry was able to still come forward after getting. Right. Like kickin and after he fell Morlin coming in with the speed power, I was beyond impressed. Get all the credit in the world so much. So I'll call triple see myself. It'd be the first one that say, you know, and he definitely in my is, you know, about other people's. But in my is going through Marlin of enough to go through the second round in having the nerve to just say, hey, I'm just going to go and. That's, that's a limp tile championship stuff right there, man. Now that, that most guys won't do. And, and he has enough nerve and conus to know to do it and anyone into the fight with a messed up ankle. I give all the credit in the world. And like I said, I seem to a triple see myself. Did you guys hear the rumors late last week that he was hurt that he injured himself? And if so. Did that adjust anything that you tried to do in the fight? Now the only the only thing we did here we heard some yelling or something we were in the joint dumb. Workout room. We heard them a little bit. You guys were there and then his cO. Yeah. We are working out Tuesday night, and he was working Tuesday night, the same time. So we heard some yelling and then his coach was acting on, then I went down to get a bottle of water, and I was talking to gray Maynard, which is great only good highlights. And my thing we're talking for a bit, and his coaches outside streaming or something what was up? So then wanna want to guys on our team. Said that maybe he got her. You know, he said that the yell was kind of weird. I'm like he's gotta be crazy. And then all of a sudden, I saw somebody tweet it the next day I was like, wow. Maybe our one of our coaches was right. And no. But the only thing we the only thing we said is okay when he goes, south Paul. Let's take advantage. You know, in about it, one of the interesting storylines heading into this fight was the fact that both guys are managed by Alliott, della, deluise. He wasn't there, correct? He was not at the fight in Chicago. Yeah, he chose not to go get both guys. And the one thing I gotta say about I'll eat, you know, is every guy that has you know, he really he really loves them. He loves guest, another families their whole team. You know, he he that's what the alleys in this for the brotherhood, you know, I think that's why all he does so well, career is because of the things that he does the managers don't, so he chose not to come. We definitely didn't care if he came, you know, we're, we're happy when he has other guys, making money, firm, self and his family, so we had no problem with it at all. But he chose to come. If I can't can I say that people keep asking me about I saw Marlon at the airport on Sunday. The first thing he wanted to talk me about was. This thing with, and I don't maybe you can provide some insight. I don't understand what happened. I know all these someone of a polarizing figure in the sport. I don't understand what happened between us couple tweets escalates, and then all of a sudden, a relationship that we sort of built over ten years is, is finished. I feel I've actually reached out to him sent him text messages. I don't think he has my number anymore blocking because they're not going through. But I I'm confused by all this, and I feel bad about it all, because, you know, to be honest, these been very good to me. And he's, he's giving me a lot over the years and access whose guys. And I think I've equally been good to him on the show and to fighters as well. And I would love to figure out a way that we could just sort of move on from all this, can you give me any vice can you help me out here Mark, because I'm, I'm sorry. It's, it's off to be best friends, but I'm sorry. It's kind of ended up this way. It's life is too short for this kind of nonsense. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Senate gray, you know, and I know that Howley's based dude, and we've known you especially being from the east coast, and, and I've known, you myself alone for eleven years. So, you know, there's, there's nothing more guys to get along. And man, I can't really tell you what happened. You know what I'm saying? I know you guys flunk some flunk some Texas around, but I don't know. I really wasn't when you guys are catching back and forth. I really know what was going on. Some about your basketball thing or some silly stuff and share share your. You didn't mean. No. Of course not. Honestly when I sent that the last tweet that I sent him about, like hanging out with guys and things like that. I actually thought it was a pretty stupid one, and it was like one AM, and I thought that people would make fun of me because it was so un-imaginative. And then, of course, it, it it blew up into a sir. Thing. But I was like I was like this is the dumbest tweet of ever since this is not even that funny. In response to his tweet, and then I just kind of went to bed and woke up, and I was like, oh, wow. I guess people took this a different way. But of course, I don't think he pays his I mean, come on. I'm not a dummy. It's just the whole thing. I know from firsthand from firsthand to like I've been around Lee. I've been I've been in a workout room. He he's many, many of black belt. Many, many good. Blackout. I'm gonna say names, but ALI'S name. Naming names. But Allie sparring wise, and jitsu wise and just working out wise. I've seen him do a basic. So I definitely know it's not bull crowd. I know you know, it's I know you know that. Yes. That's very well. He does very well. Listen, very well against other guys to here's the one thing, I'll say and I've said it even before all this. He deserves a lot of credit. His guys are getting title shots. You gotta do that by any means necessary, you got to do what's best for your guys. And the proof is in the pudding in the sense that I do believe there's only one guy that's left him. RDA will Derek left them there Brunson left them, but came back, but in the history of his time as a manager, I think that says, a lot, the fact that only one guys left him and he's talked about are on the show and the fact that there's still friends. So I think regardless of what you may think about the guy and I'll say, look does good. I, he doesn't have to be friends with me. He doesn't have to be friends with Meteo anything like that. And so. Clearly, I can't speak them. Just tell them, let's drop this once and for all, you know. I regret sending the tweets. Let's figure this out, no more. I don't want this. Life is too short, unless it's all move on from all of this. Can can you can you pass that message for me? Please. I tell you, I tell you I love for you to hit up a show on type people know Allie says stuff, and people may think it's off the wall or whatnot. But, you know, he does everything he does it for the love of spiders, and people, I wish people knew his story because we knew Ali before he was a manager. And this guy like you know, he doesn't have like a Harvard education. He can't this country not knowing English. He doesn't. He didn't start off with you know, he didn't have even a background in being a manager. You know, most guys are managers for a long time in a great, you know, integrate organization or a great company shall I say? And they learned from that. I mean Ali learned everything on his own, and he didn't start off like twenty different agency start off by himself bus and his butt and start off with a hens. Oh, Gracie guy taken heads those guys hens. Oh, and Gregor Gracie halls eagle Ricardo Frankie and and what he's done is incredible. And he did it all off of the love of his guys. You know, and not take money so many times, and not charging for ridiculous things and taking losses on money, and I know, for fact, telling people don't worry about the money, you know when. They won their fight and say, no, no, you're going through a rough time and I know people let bar money you know what I'm saying fighters, who you know who, who were rough time. So, I would love you guys did even did a show a serious one because he's always trying to promote his fighters and stuff and trying to help them out, like, I wish people really knew the real alley. And what he started from because I think it's an amazing story and what he's -ccomplish this kind of risk. You know what I'm saying of how this guy came from came to America not known English known anything and, and what he's accomplished, even so much so that he gets into the practice with these guys and spills, blah with them, you know what I'm saying is amazing. Well, one of his guys, one of your guys Frankie Edgar getting the title shot till I twenty seventh against max Holloway. Do you feel like this is like you guys like Frankie clearly in a good place? He's had some time off to feel like we got to win this one, because this could be our last shot at a belt. I gotta honestly say. No. Because like he's just fighting on top. Like I don't like other people see it because they see the long stretch of his history and whatnot. And you know how many years he's been in the game. But I look at him. No, we have a lot of guys in our room, that are warm rises for, for tunnels be manga sharp off at Varas. Two more valid, you know we have. You know, we have we have so many great guys Corey Anderson, Kaelin Chicago, just one jar. Eubanks khloe, Lance Palmer and Frankie's go, and Frankie still finding at such a high level that I just don't see an end to right now. You know what I'm saying like he's sparring pro- pros. He's, he's fighting the most elite of the elite and don't awesome. So now I don't see an end. I don't think it's the last one and, you know, I think Frankie I don't know when the expiration date is on might say, it's the same as Mayweather, you know, you just he's in the room, every day, loves fighting loves helping everybody when he's not fighting even when he's injured in there. He hasn't been injured since he's been doing so much better now. And I don't I don't see a timetable for him. In a way, this is the best time to fight max holler. Right. Because it's very rare to fight a champion coming off of a loss. You never know how he's going to respond to that. So this is kind of perfect for you guys. I don't believe. So I believe when people lose they know that to come back Harvard, someone like max. I mean, I gotta say man that max is one of my favorite fighters. I max death. I love his attitude. I love his fighting style. I love. And I think the things I love about max things. I love about Frankie. They're both guys that aren't going to say note anybody. They're both guys that aren't going to back down. You know what I'm saying? And that both guys that aren't going to pick and choose their opponents. You know, they're just guys they're gonna put it all out there at any time. They they're true fighters. They call themselves fires, and they act like fighters. That's tough to do in two thousand nineteen. You know, and, you know, and I appreciate both of them. I appreciate you. Mark. Thank you very much for doing this. I know it's never easy coming off of a loss. But what if that's one of my favorite fights of the year it exceeded? Mike's Petitions I thought it wasn't getting enough attention because the Ferguson Surani fight and rightfully everyone. Was very said about that one, but what a championship level fight. That was like that was high level Emma may between to the very best fighters in the sport today. So hopefully Marlin is doing okay. He's, he's not to upset, and I have no doubt that we'll see him back in a big title fight. And let's forget, Henry, pseudo once lost his first title fight, and look what's happened to him now. So I don't think this is the end of Marlon REIs. Congratulations. On your team for getting this foreign good luck trying to get him back there. I have again. I have no doubt that it will happen sooner rather than later. Congratulations, Henry and his team. And let's get you an Ahliyah back on track to buddy. All right to mean that tweet. And I know that. Ali is definitely one of the best in the game. Thank you. Mark. Hi, mark. Henry head coach for the likes of Marlon REIs Frankie. Edgar now Cluj, Adelphia beat muggle cherry Pov Corey Anderson. Let's goes on and on one of the best coaches in the game, and one of the best people in the game as well in my opinion. And yeah, it's true. You know, this, this thing with Ellie is, is, is no fun. Some stupid tweets back and forth. I don't like it. I don't enjoy it. I don't like the drama, believe it or not. I don't like the drama. I don't. I'm not a fan of it. And so, yeah, it's fun to, to not feel you build relationships with people, and you, you, you spend a lot of time talking to them on the phone. Probably sometimes more than than your own family, and then all of a sudden it just ends. That's it. Not talking anymore because of what so anyway, if you're out there, let's try to bury the hatchet here and, and move on in a positive way. And, you know, we don't have to be the best of friends, but. That's being terms is no fun, the back and forth. They were fun this not as fun in a matter of moments. We'll talk to alginates sterling. The funk master had a big win over Pedro moon, ios on Saturday is he next for Henry, pseudo will he fight for the bantamweight title seems like he's putting it all together. Alginates sterling. I read this crazy stat. Check this out. It's not here. I read it somewhere else. He landed more significant strikes in the first two rounds of that fight against pager Mundos than he did in all his UFC fights combined. That. I read that right. Pretty sure it did let me see I wanna get that wrong. Whereas it, where's it? Whereas where's. It's I wrote it down in our little roundtable thing that we did here, it is. Sterling landed more strikes in the first two rounds of the fight one hundred ten than he had in any of his previous U of C fights. That's insane. That's a great performance. This since since he lost the Marlin rice. He's looked amazing in the he's really put it all together. The other big bantamweight performance on the card was putrid yen. And so I'm curious. If the look if Henry seriously injured, and we'll find out a little more by the how good do these cupcakes over here with the ten and everything looks amazing, very Tyson. Just wanna lick 'em. All anyway, if Henry is out for quite some time we'll get an update from him in a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if they do Puran versus algebra sterling. They're still core San hanging out there. But it seems like it's a three horse race San Hagan fights have all sons who's not an easy out by any stretch of the imagination. In a couple a couple months. So we'll see what happens. But sterling I won't be great. And I wouldn't have problem with sterling for Suto, but I just feel like sued is going to be out for a while with the, the ankle entry seem really banged up afterwards. Video of him being carted around wheelchair when he came on the post-flight show on Saturday, such pick them up and put him on the said so he's certainly banged up. And what's scary thing? That is what a scary thing. I mean I talked to a high level fighter a very famous fighter on Saturday about the stuff with the mats. And in case you missed it Henry said that he was training at the hotel. So at the fighter hotel, they have these little ballrooms, and they'll basically have these signs on the wall. With with the, the fighters listed, and red corner, blue corner. Maybe split it up at the four and you could go in there and you can prepare for your Friday. That's where you can work out and they'll usually have these match there. And I spoke to a high level fighter who told me that he never uses the mats he. Just works out on the carpet because the mats will slide I lower the place and it seems as though according to Henry and his team that was a little gap there, because the mats weren't taped properly, and that's how he sprained his ankle and sprained it pretty seriously show me the picture and this was on Wednesday, his entire ankle was swollen and black and blue. And so could you imagine if a he could not fight as a result of that or be he lost the fight as a result of that? I mean. I'm a lawyer or anything, but that's a pretty serious thing that you injure self while training for the fight because of the Mets not being taped properly. That's crazy. I never heard that before. I mean if heard people getting hurt that way, but never prior to you. See fight, but this fighter told me that it's a real thing, and they're cognizant of it. So that's a scary thing. Luckily for him it didn't affect his performance didn't fight the fight. But wow, think about and I knew right away that it was true. He had the ankle sleeves on both. Of course, couldn't just have it on one, because that would have been that would have been. That would have been obvious for for for, for Marlin that he was hurt. In that particular foot. But that's a big deal that he was able to overcome that. So world onto him. All right. Let's go back to Joe. Now, let's say Hello to the funk master big win over pager Mundos last time he was on. He was at another restaurant in Phoenix. I believe now, he's, I'm assuming at a restaurant in Chicago. I am saying I like it. It's algebra restaurant world tour. What are you eating now? Just crushing deep dish over. Oh man. Okay. So what do you think Chicago or New York? Still on the Team, New York. Okay. I would have taken away your New York heart. If you said Chicago because I don't think any New Yorker can actually go for pizza. Congratulations on the win. I thought I just read a stat that you landed more significant strikes in the first two rounds of that fight, then you have in your entire UFC career combined. Do you feel like that was like each time I feel like ask you this, but as possible that was your best performance in the USC? Say it was my best moments. Plea again to take that house and everything. But I think old role. Just complete. From beginning the first Bill to the everything wanted to do and coming those could have done better course. Of course. I think what the perfect. Are you banged up? I got a good look at your face. They're very briefly. But now I think the connection is a little messed up. I know you went to the hospital. Are you banged up? A little bit. My hand is low tweet and my leg. But I'm just limping a little bit. The end of the world's not this broken or anything like that. So my thumb I should have this word away. Get him back home and hopefully this noble chairs. They said they think that might have toward off or something and some something weird. I don't know. They said it only takes weeks. Hopefully not and that happened in the middle of the fight. Just so. I didn't still end the adrenaline came down fill out of the chair in the back room to embarrassing. They pass out. Doc, just came. They ran his tiny. I know I just felt the chill like India. Oh my God. Wow. And she went to the hospital. Did you did you injure your leg as well? You said. Pedro. Nitrate Belay cakes and the couple of free was able to get in the second round around if you'd be up go at the hospital commission. I saw that picture that was amazing. So is the bad blood. No more. Have you guys squashed it? I don't know. I mean at least so mind there was never any real that blood. I mean, the whole thing started because I asked whatever happened with the results of his drug tests that he supposedly at Bernie commission was asked question about it. Like a snooze say, why might lose five but anything like that. Sincere question. Has Fisher Worsely missing fly Fe joy isn't as plays? We thought he was. But. Should have gone with someone for fifty minutes like that. Twenty five minutes whatever the case may be. I think everyone always has a newfound. Respect each other, especially like that. Are you the number one contender one thirty five? Oh, without a doubt. I mean, what other guys are out there who else could be in front of the number one, master, I heard this battle one of the fluky is most humiliate inning not ever happen, rare most guys, they don't bounce back then and I've done this. I've showed my dairies ups and downs. No. My team was still me still by myself, and I won't fasten media row at the end of the buying congratulate me, but I also make sure they knew herb me, loud and clear. I said to my. Stuff. I don't care. I don't care what you guys believe. I believe me at the end of the day, I bet on myself, no one's ever make a count out myself and how I feel about what, what I can and cannot do. I believe in me. Never count me out came in and did you watch? Did you get a chance to watch the pseudomonas fight? From the hospital. Fallen. Exactly what I said about super power for doing super explosive. But we don't know how good he really is. And comes off, as insincere assessment from my end because I bought him. Outside of that loss to assessment decision. I view. He'd be John Dodson this, that was the only glimpse that we got to see of his still capabilities. They eat right off through spectacular. Knockout wings, one of them was a submission in her sale soaked now owned first rally. So when you have to you don't get to really see the whole pitch of Brinson table. It kind of leaves these open question marks. And that's what I was always wondering does he actually have guessing to go into those championship rounds if you like all right? This is definitely a guy and and was able to push those buttons and got him out of the early rounds and. He got the finish. I thought he was going to be a long night for those legs is. Is. Real early fight. And we talked in. Is world class for reason came back battled to versity bins. In a way, would you agree that Henry winning beating Marlin was the best case scenario for you? Yes. And no I figured it really depends on how the fight when it but with him winning. I think there's no. Immediate rematch type of anyway. Denied that, and so on. I had no race. I read in catch, let's divide and was competitive fight answer, a lot of questions, a lot of and Harry's, what he says he is. He is. How greatest combat athle- out there? But beat hell. That makes me yes. Does that make me came in? Did you see Yan's fight? I didn't I call like the last round. And even the last round like last minute, but I heard Rivera was winning every rounding Scott, quote at the end. And yon was able to still around at the end of each visual round which passed a good story for myself. I'm gonna hopefully get some time to watch it. Tomorrow, breakdown, the five so I can break down my podcast and what I think. Brinson table and. Yes, I know that's going to be a guy. I'm going to eventually meet down the road. Same page. I was that they will definitely have a rematch at some point down the road because he's a tough man. I don't think gonna be a lot of guys that can handle is Russia, his pace and his hard man. That's the one thing you gotta you gotta be a special type of gassing, especially I've been visual to deal with something like that guy. If they said, you so who does out for too long, or we want to go to defend the flyweight title? Would you be open to fighting on next? Question. Here's change Chin-chin. Go to say no have no desire to fight right now. Multiple five win streak beat them guy in the world, he'd beat beat, and I, I downloaded I don't think. I don't think I've made to fight him, right? By had to. Okay. No way. Operates but the. Data realized that I think short Shelby realized I think metered these guys on the contender that was. Contender fight. I think if it could've they would've switched. They do. Are they would've switch us? And we would have been on the card, which we should have been been on. Yeah. I was surprised by that. What did you make of that? Disrespects. Yes, I don't know. I think they thought I was going to slow page down and hug them. Clinch them off a make five boring. But like I said, man, it takes a special individual bring out those type of fights. And they chose that guy he was able to come forward. March me down. No quit branch and I hit him was shot man, I was asking Ray achey. Don't be bricks. I need something else to hit him with. It's amazing. I love I love the clip that they showed of mad Ray talking to in the corner. It's, it's an incredible corner that you have always talked about this before I'll Joe, but I firmly believe now that in the end the Marlin fight was the best thing to ever happen to you, my crazy. I agree. I think you'll. You're in terms of with the UC can can snout saying do, I think it lies me perfectly? This is the perfect scenario, but I like. We were very cordial not like best friends or anything like that. We have a training other coaches are really good friends and all that. So we have a lineage, right there. But as competitor as what we do compete against the best guys in the world. So I wasn't wishing him ill will was wishing Henry ill-will. I wanna fight the best guy. Well, I am the best guy in world. So his area this right now. This live the stars live for me told that you'll see on the name to Nathan can't stop from shining. His montage shot. Have they told you that your next have you gone in that word? No, no. But I'm pretty sure my phone's should be a major city coalition. Good news at some point. Okay. I hear they were pretty happy with the performance, you know, and Dana said something along lines by, like this entire time. I would have been demean event. So I don't know. That's what I heard. I don't know if it's true. And that's what I was told that he said. Missa Matt Saracen say, okay. Okay. And last thing are you worried. Sometimes when you have a champion to, to classes that holds things up. Are you worried at all that you'll have to wait a little longer because now Henry has to Hello? Who's that? I thought it was some random person. How are you? As my lady lady. What's her neck, accrues soon of MRs soon to be Mississippi? Are you guys engaged? Not yet. Okay. Well, did you just did you just pop the question right now? Is that what just happened? Joel. I mean. That'd be great for my show. Al joe. If you could pop the question right now. That'd be huge for us. That would be good. That is not happening. Not right now. Enough anyway, just wanted to out kind of a weird transition, but the Suharto thing that you have a champion two-way classes is that is that problematic for you. You think he has to give up one? I think Henry likes being fat and happy. I think he likes fighting at one thirty five die ova down one twenty five. I see this happening before one twenty five and one twenty five nieces, solidify number one contender still between benefit in juicier for mega to class guys. But. The world wants the funk, man. Show started baiting. We're rolling. All right. I feel like Rebecca doesn't like being on cameras that accurate. A little bit. She's kinda of shoulder there. All right. Enjoy your time in Chicago. Enjoy your pizza. My man congratulations on the win. Well done. Keel up soon. I hope for your sake that you get the title shot take care. Thank you. Thanks. All right. My man there. He is the funk master alginates sterling huge win for him. And we'll see if he is, in fact, next four five win streak at bantamweight second. Longest in the division behind thirty end. And he also landed a UFC bantamweight record one hundred seventy four significant strikes against Pedro Mundos, the plus two point eight four significant strike differential, and UFC bantamweight fights is the highest in division history. So that's a big win for Joe. Also, to kick off the card. Caitlyn keagan had a big win. She's one of five fighters. Have three wins at women's flyweight. And she is now just the twelfth fighter new see history to have her first seven fights, go to decisions Alaska, if she is, in fact, next for Valentina shift chanko, wait a second. I don't even recognize you. Blonde fighter. Is that you never see your hair like this? What exactly is going on here? Is that your? Natural hair curly hair. No, I just took my brain out. So this is what it looks like going out all my gosh. How long does that last? Probably about until I get done with you and wash it, okay. For enough you kept them in for two days is that usual thing for you. Yeah. I usually keep it in the day after just because I don't feel like I was in Chicago yesterday. And I just got home like about an hour ago. So yeah, just deal with when I get home for thank you for doing this upon landing. Congratulations on the win. Were you happy with your performance? Yeah, I was really happy. You know, I said, after the interview my whole my whole game plan for the for this fight was attitude marquan Ray every single one on one session and sparring session. He was just like, attitude attitude, always, right? Are like in his basement. He has a bake. You know, a big paper where we write down things that we want for this fi, and number one always underlined circle was attitude. And I was able to use on the fight and I think that's what helped me get the win. So what is it like so you could say that, but how do you actually work on that? Like, how is that an actual skill that you work on? I can understand it being somebody right down. But how does one actually work on that? I think just inspiring and training. You know, not being too nice and training and just kind of pushing it a little bit more in sparring and not getting sometimes I tend to get too technical, and sometimes you need to just, you know you didn't go hard. And luckily, this sparring camp how to really really great camp, me and star Eubanks. She fought three weeks before me. So we sparred pretty much together the whole entire camp, we were just like going at it. I mean are expiring sessions for definitely harder than the fight. So I think that was a huge impact for my fight in helping me improve did, did you want to, like, did you feel like you had to finish in order to cement, your places and I'm contender? Did you not think that that was important? I don't think that's important. I try not to put that pressure on myself. The only don't the only important thing is winning. So you know I just wanna stick to my game plan do what I can. I mean obviously, I'm trying to go finish. But sometimes, I think if you try to force things it takes you out of your game and out of your lament. So I try to win, you know, when exchange and that's just all tried to do. Did you feel like you did enough before the nonce the scorecards? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely felt like that, obviously wouldn't go to decision early a little nervous. But, you know, I felt like I wasn't really hurting the fight at all. And I felt like she was definitely hurt like throughout the fight. So I definitely thought like I did enough once I heard thirty twenty seven absolutely one. How did you feel about as far as the, the flights on the prelims? You guys were the highest ranked once and there were potential title implications on this. How did you feel about starting the show? I spoke to her on Thursday. I think it was that she seemed very upset about it all or moving, I've sip perturbed like she was a little bit annoyed that were first. How did you feel about it? Yeah. Well, yeah. Because you spent her on Thursday. I didn't see this is the same thing happened with Calvin. Everyone gets mad Amee. I see I wanna clip this on. And I'm gonna show this to the people. Yes, you should be mad at me. You know what you should be mad. But you know what happened? They took my camera wave. If I'm being honest. They took my camera way, I'd have a camera. Do you see me with the camera when you were there? Did you see me or just Cam? No. But I heard you saying that I like tennis player. No. I did not say that. I did not say. Listen to the interview this morning said, I found like a tennis player. Okay. First of all, if I did say that why is that bad tennis, players are great? You sat in a negative way that it was like annoying. No, she brought the first that she felt like it was annoying. You, you brought it up on. We'll brought it up, and then she ran. He's trying to, you know, try to stir up a little conflict there. Well, I was trying to be honest. I was trying to drum up some interest because it bothered me that you guys were so low down on the card. Right. Was I not your back on and say tennis players at times? They can't get a little irritating with the noises. No. I mean that is that unfair. But Tennessee, I, maybe but they also don't have punches coming up their phase. His wanna do. Why do you make those sounds? Oh, let's just how I am. And I train. I mean if you walk into a boxing gym. I mean, well, I grew up doing karate, so many. That's probably why. But and then the first sport that I competed in really was boxing. And if you walk into a boxing gym. I mean everyone's really loud and screaming, but I don't know. That's just that's just kind of me. Even when I'm at the gym people are well here, like I guess, Caitlyn's here, you know, but as just how I am I don't I try not to I'm not going to change it because it annoys people. That's what, what helps me and, and that's what I'm gonna do. No. In fact, I would suggest do even more and do louder up. You one that. Yeah. Exactly like it's like reminds me of those people that don't shower before the big fights, you know, any edge. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so we have our, but do we have beef killing the we have beef? Now I just got to keep you in. Check little, I feel like we have beef. I kinda like it. I respected. I also that you said a ten minutes into the interview like you were holding onto it. And then you unleashed it on me. Yeah. Why already I already gave you a little crapper going with Joe. Joe the barber shop. You don't go to the hair salon. Would you do that sort of thing? I guess you breed your hairs that accurate. Yeah. You wouldn't know because you don't ask fair enough, although I didn't go before this fight that was last fight. So does it. So you're saying this time I should've been gone to you. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Did you see the Shevchenko fight? Yeah. I did. I went to a par- bar with my parents and stuff. So we watch the rest of the fights there. And then I watch it. Why wanted to see my parents and my family the own out to fight? They were at the fight. But once we're fighting we're not allowed to the fighters aren't allowed to go into the stands. So I was the first fight. I wasn't gonna wait in the I wasn't gonna wait in my locker room for like seven hours. Sure bites are over. So, yeah, we went back to the hotel, and then I met up me my family my coaches. We went somewhere. I'm watch the rest of the fights, more quiet. So it was nice. Okay. Would you think would you think of performance and the finish the finish was quite scary devastating very impressive? Right. Very technical. Would you think of it? Yeah. I thought it was amazing. I mean it was crazy when you when they showed the replay. And listen to that sound of that kick that was crazy. I mean it looks bad. But when you hear the sound of it, you're like whole league grab that was a hard. Cac but, but yeah, I was I'm always like super impressed with Valentinas take downs and I don't think people give her enough credit for it. They say how much of a devastating striker she is. But I mean she took Joon down like seven. Times and no one takes on down. You know. So I think that. Obviously the kick in the finish is super impressive. But I'm always really impressed by her ability to take down. Are you next for her? Yeah. Absolutely. I think so have you been told that? I haven't been told that, but, you know, they've said that our fight was going to be a number one contender fight nothing in writing. But it's been said I don't see anyone else that make sense right now. Would you like to fight or next? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Do you feel up well with her? Yeah, I do. I really do. And it's nice that we'd just fought in the same cards. So timing wise, you know, obviously from her fight. I don't think she's injured. I have no injuries. So, you know, I think that timing wise, it makes sense for the both of us. So, you know, I think November New York sounds like a good time. I know about teen is always always wants to be active, and she's always trying to fight like she'll probably tomorrow, she get, you know, so we'll see what they say about, hopefully as soon as possible. Okay. And so, and so it's interesting because I feel like there's a thought out there and I'll be honest, I feel like I subscribe to the thought, as well as scribe to this theory that it's a little bit like the early days of the men's flyweight division where we? Have this dominant champion she will reign supreme for multiple title defenses when you watch her fight as a flyway, because even Jessica said this to me before the fight that she feels like her path has not been the toughest as a flyweight? I don't know if she'll say that now because of course they just fought you see holes in our game because I'm not a fighter. I'm not an expert. I don't see many see any. I think she's very well rounded everywhere I wouldn't say she's like, you know, from wrestling to striking to grab Lang. I think she's equally. Good at all. Three of them. I don't think she has any any particular weaknesses in them. You know, I think if for me or any other fighter that's gonna have to fight them. We're going to have to use their strengths and see where they way out against her for their advantage. You know, I'm a I'm a tricky fighter. I tend to like frustrate a lot of people with my foot work. I might movement. And I have really good cardio. And my style is kind of a hard style deal without frustrating one and it's hard to be. So I think that's my advantage for for my fight against Valentina. Okay. If you Valentina just much says, I would yell a lot. I would annoy her of dinner. Yes, she, she doesn't seem like she seems pretty focused get annoyed. She seems unflappable that's the best way. Eastern martial artists. Yeah. They don't. They're not fazed by anything, by the way. Congratulations. I do believe you're getting married soon cracked. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting married in I think two months now. Yeah. End of the summer would be safe to say after those tennis comments. And the no interview, don't wait for the save the date, I'm not on the list. He didn't get yet. It's pretty much if you would've interviewee on Thursday, maybe but yeah. Get it didn't get out today because of that. Okay. Well, I think it's warranted and deserved in my opinion. Congratulations on the win. I hope for your sake title shot that would be that would be interesting to see her go up against the strike for like yourself. She's looked very good. It's agree with you. Always good when you fight on the same card as the champion because then your schedules are lying together. So good luck with that. And good luck planning the wedding as well. Thank you. Thank you very much for shade, and hopefully no hard feelings anymore. Okay. We're good hard feeling. That's funny. I keep you in check every once in a while. No problem I can handle it. I don't wanna live in a world where Caitlyn Kagan is mad at me enough. People are mad ameliorate. No absolutely not. Actually, not fair. Enough are Caitlyn. Thank you very much joy the victory. And thanks for doing it. Awesome. Thank you. All right. There. She is. Blonde fighter. Caitlyn. Kagan kicked off the night. You have to thirty eight by the way, I love doing the, the radio show before the show. And for the event, thanks everyone who called in on Saturday. We got from the United Center atrium it was great to do from the United Center. Atrium took a lot of phone calls. It was great doing that for all the big shows. How about this guy? I don't know. His name, this guy did this shirt for me. He made it that knows world order. That. Honi roadshow, Chicago. I guess that's the date underneath. I mean, that is something another fine gentlemen. Made this for me. I mean, the people were just so. Nice thanks to chill for spoiling. What happened? How about that, right? There little collage, if you will. I mean that is just something else. Just amazing. Anyway. Thank you very much. Everyone who stopped by was great time in Chicago. And of course, the headliner featured Henry, pseudo Marla mariah's big win for Henry over Marlin, he is now the triple champ, everyone's still buzzing. And now without further ado, let us bring you the man that everyone wants to hear from everyone wants to see him. He is triple C. He is the Olympic champion the flyway champion and now the UFC raining defending bantamweight champion. And he's flanked by the two thousand nineteen coach of the year. Captain, Eric Albar. See he. He is the one and only Henry, Henry, our you. He is a man possessed look at that look. I'm doing okay. Thank you happen. Well, it's. The. History. I will kiss the ring, I will bend the knee as you like to say now Henry. It's so good to have you here. It's so good to talk to you. I really appreciate you doing this. The first question that I think needs to be addressed right at the top. I think it's the question. Everyone wants the answer to. Single. Saying, well you, you ruined. I was gonna say, how did it feel to have? Nikki Bella comment on your post. How did it feel Henry uninitiated? You know what you need to give her the hand. Are you need to give the Heisman now? She can't becoming around. No johnny-come-latelies. All right. Exactly. You know what? Nikki Bella, you know, you can go wait in line. That's right. I gotta learn. I gotta laugh here already Brazil. Nikki Bella say, hi. And we're going full, he'll Nikki Bella tiger. Okay. I will tell you that, that king of cringe the greatest comeback after the all time. She's, she's psych estranged. No. I assuming that a lot of people are hitting you up, Henry. And so we will leave it at that. This is an amazing thing that you've done. It's it's truly unbelievable. I remember it was this time last year in Chicago, that's when you found out that you were gonna fight Dmitri's Johnson who thought fast, forty year. You're now a champion in two different way classes and what you pulled off was amazing. But let's go back to choose day of last week. Could you tell us exactly what happened with your ankle and how serious was was there chance that you would have had to pull out of the fight? Yeah, there could have been could have been a possibility of that. But I, I talked to my coach I talked to everybody because I had sprayed. So Tuesday night were. I got an on Monday Tuesday night, we trained and air to go smooth healthy man. I've been so strong physically just strongman hats off to my to, to my signs team, euro force one. But anyway, had, you know, I always use wrestlers shoes for that, for that matter, ACA, I don't train foot about the only guy in a mate that just trains this wrestling shoes for grabbing for everything because because that read because I've strained up a lot of my ankles and up. Anyways, Tuesday night, we're, we're getting ready to start trading would not in at the at the of downstairs at the hotel. Typically have a training area for us in the Matt the match were under like some cheap tape. And when I step that kind of fell into the crack of the mats or between the tape in the match supposed to be connected and utterly twisted my, my left ankle area, and it was scary, but had ballooned up to maybe about a about the size of great fruit in the beginning and able to work all day, but a, you know, have Heather Linden was shut off for her. She worked on the whole week and I was doing therapy lasers at nine like it was it was almost doing therapy like every hour on my ankle. And, and I was I was able to walk on it, but I wasn't able to really shooter penetrate by to pick pick up or I didn't wanna test it to do that. But it just you know, if in the fight them set to pull through and. So going into the fight, I want, I wanted the with an injury like I went under. I wonder what, what the pretty severe left ankle sprain. Wow. Where you worry is. That's why you wore the ankle sleeves, right? Yes. Why? That's why how were they use is a mentally like this. This is a whole other thing to worry about. Did your confidence drop were you worried about your performance? You can't use your ankle. You can't shoot probably. Right. You can't move properly. You can't. I mean you can't fight properly. Right. Right. I think it was you know, I don't wanna sale is completely I was hurt, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't that much to pull out of the fight saying, like with the good tape job, and, and the therapy that I was doing, like I was feeling better. It was getting better every day. This could have been Astra's though, for you. I mean, have you talked to you have see about rectifying this in the future? Yeah. Yeah. This, this is good that we're actually talking about. Hopefully, they could I didn't necessarily anyone scare density Telhami until until maybe like the last last night had to tell the U of C officials. All listen month has had Heather was supposed to take off to China. NS AM neater air by because my ankles. She's zonal nicotine my incorrectly. Though. That's when I had a kind of break into, but, but I'm Brad yeses. It's it's an injury. It happens all the time. I bring my left ankle fog mitch's, the first time I fought him with the with the ankle sprain way worse than this, and Beata. What's going on in, in your mind? What do you think about after that first round because he looked really good in that first round, he was attacking her legs. And it seemed like you know things were going in his favor. The momentum was on his side. How did you regroup going into the second? It was. The game plan was to Russell, but again, men, I couldn't necessarily push off a cover space, like doing a good job. Don't his late kicks finding me at range with his lake. God area. Can he kick manches? I thought I if like a bat was going through my shins, I mean, the do could kick, you could hear it, and people that were near case we could heroes like it was like to stick, SCO like it was, like, you know, a the sound of breaking and I knew that I knew that he was stone, a lot of power knowing when I went back to my quarter. Franko and captain Eric in there. That is listen Monday. They sent the Meech soliver again, a says your ankles must stop. They're attacking. He's attacking that from leg. I said, she just gonna have to get into one into into boxing. Boxing, ring, Janika when you got to really fight the sky or if not, he's gonna stock you pretty much. They say like that. But that's kind of how I felt kind hop. They're kind of convenient. So they're not just told my coaches all right, man. I'm going to size them coming in. I'm going to us as on if this is what I have to do in this is what I have to do how to make a dog fight. He stole a lot of power arguable has said that he was he fought emotional would not. But I just felt like do a lot of pot. I thought he did a good job, even though he was catching me with kicks member area still sheet on chin me foes, as much as I, I'm probably a little bit more because he's he's. He's, he's directing the power but he felt it too. I know I know what should against a lot of them. Do you feel like you got under his skin? You're in his head because it did feel like he was throwing so much, and maybe not controlling his power not controlling. It seemed like he got tired, and it's been a long time since we saw Marlin get tired in a fight like that. You feel like maybe he emptied the gas tank too early because of how he felt about you, clearly he did not like you. He didn't. But I don't think so at moment I said before. Motza power fighter. I think his game Plum wuss ride just thought he knew too much power. So I don't think he got emotional. I just didn't think he knew what I was made out of, you know, you gotta you gotta keep you gotta keep that in mind, the fighter did it be ball mariah's. It was a competitor. That beat him. It was a guy says, okay? Man, you may be the better fighter you may. But you're not the better competitor. Man. I will find a way to beach us. If you don't, if you don't shut my lights off. You don't choke me off. You don't knock me out. You're in trouble. And that's exactly what happened. He threw too much power, which I thought he would and I saw breathing. He shot his demeanor, gave me everything it has breathing his face his hands. I, I look at all that stuff, and I started push the pace as a smaller guy. I push the pace in. He just he couldn't handle mourn. I saw that. Speaking of being the smaller guy first time in wild that you fight a one thirty five. So now you can compare it to you at your best at one twenty five. You like fighting thirty five better. Do you wanna stick around? You like the five better. It's ten ten thousand less of, of misery, but I have the capability of making both way classes now Dana Dana white. You sit at the fly divisions gonna stay you save get around. Can we get round of applause for that? While done, you do believe him though, because he here's my theory. My theory is that he's saying that, and it's great just so that you can walk around as the double champion, if they take away the division, you know, it doesn't feel like it means as much. But they got rid of all these guys. How can the division actually be thing? If there's only ten guys left. All you restructure it every okay now's the time. I think you structured you find characters. You find guys there's a lot of good geysers team Zuege who is really tough man out of South Africa oral Chan man. He is one dangerous human being. There's guys like they're everywhere they're everywhere it just showed a flyway is in Utah for Powell king. The flyweight has to BELTRAN now the former pound for pound was a flyway. There's nothing wrong with what's happened is you gotta fight character. We have to build storylines. A toddler is to. Even at the battle of division for the for area would be sync thing was a character their who's who sell in the fight. You're saving all got an. You're doing it. Did you see anybody coming up with magic tricks? It's incredible. I love everything you're doing a really seems like you're, you're comfortable in your own skin. You don't listen to the haters, you don't listen to the critics. And I saw it at media day all the cameras were around you. Everyone wanted to talk to you. Everyone was commenting on on your your your staredown your props. All that stuff more. So it's amazing what you're doing. And I noticed that you said in the post fight interview you wanna get paid like a heavyweight. It's time that they actually start treating you like one of the big stars. Is that what's the next thing that you need to get done? You need start getting paid accordingly. That's my first flight. My first fight is with Dana white, and the Indus checkbook know. You know, let them start off by saying this man a day. No, the USC have spoken in these are the last people wanna I wanna trash talk. But I will think this meant as much as they're a business is. So, so am I I'm gonna price fighter? I deserve to be paid guys. I'm an people talk about champ champ. Okay. George saint-pierre Daniel core meaty, dude, I'm an illegal mile. I'm an legal my own area. I'm from triple C, and Chan Chan Chan, so not a chance on triple team in the Olympics is the any human could ever want wanna be compensated. I speak different languages, the us, she sees know why he's gonna come Satan. He's going through if not, you can have both belts, I deserve to get paid. And he's been good to me. And he's told me says the more you win. You said you win. This five through told me he says you will be competent. So I'm just reassuring. I'm doing publicly we're both public figure. Show. Right. I want I want a one moolah I deserve you do what are the state what the state of your injuries right now? What are we dealing with, how how's the ankle after the fight how you feeling overall because of course, saw the footage of you being wheeled around in a wheelchair? How you feeling now? I'm feeling better. Now a gum. All actually, I'm beat up. And I'm still Chicago. Chicago, I think during the fight I had I like through all my, my left shoulder. So that's actually more pain in my actual shins like this hurts, I'm pretty short towards something my left my left shoulder guy. I'm never, I've always been healthy and just doesn't feel right. So my shins bleeding for miles Budi last night for a top by head. Both my shoes have a cut in my NIA need him in the face ready to whatever. But I have a gap about this big in my neon offals from a kid, but I don't think he kicked my knees. So must have been from kicking kicking onto the face or whatever. So have gash there, I'm beat done managing? It just shows I can I can be technical or I can make until dogfight Nassir by. Do you know exactly what happened to the ankle like did you did you tear ligaments? Is it just a sprain is a worse now? I'm gonna I'm not to get a chick by the doctors. You know, you're the first percents in the picture, too. In heather? Heather the lead. There was torn while ta on the top side. So, but I don't have an MRI. Is that really can't can't do that, but I wanna get get a ho scanning my buddy at the fighting more? I recounted earlier today in a column on ESPN dot com about the story that both you in Iraq told me the past that you have one seventy seven when you essentially retired after failing to make weight prior to the Scott Jorgensen fight. And so I can't help but ask Mr. Eric in back over there. You are. You were jumping around like a little child. You were so happy was beautiful to see this was as much victory for you. I feel like as it was for Henry. And, and we should note because you felt slighted last year that this is now your second double champ in the span of a month and a half. This is an incredible thing. Eric, how do you feel after all this? I feel the world it was four weeks and it was in Chicago leader, four weeks ago. Wow. Chicago's has done you. Well. Takada was been good to me. Why did you let yes except I got robbed left yesterday. What happened at fort left it in the hotel lobby Wentz to run after Henry's doctor to try get a prescription for him. And then I went back up to the room when I went back down when I realized what I had done. It was gone. I got video of it. So I'm gonna posted a Molise said, let's see if we can find this guy on, why are we put a hold on you on the spot air can help? Okay, what do you need? How can we want you want me to release it? What you wanted to use his nose sniff amount. Like that. I'm telling you I'm trying to right the wrong this trophy. It's coming to you Henry for last year. It might have been come to you for fighter of the year of twenty nineteen and for the coach doing his thing. I mean no-one no-one is comparing to what you guys are doing right now. And it's amazing. Eric, why did you not let him retire back? Then why you're the only one that believed in the sky seemed why did you not let him do that? He competent enough at the at that point, he was an Olympic champion. Because I thought because of because of Saturday night because I knew one day would be he can be one of the greatest, and, and that's why simple simple, that's what's old. They can be the greatest one day you going to be world champion. And we are you serious about one forty five. Why not why not? Why not guessing? Account me out again. Jesus. I love it. I love it. I think so the fight that would really want area. And this has nothing to do with, with, with, with, again, just as everything will competition is if, if a Frankie Edgar was fight against the max Holloway. That's if I could I'm interested in, and we had talked about it before my coach captain, Eric had mentioned it at internees. I like to I like his stature, I think the heights seems very well. He's wrestler on, I think if he wants to fight with Mets hollow at the I think, in control dot it's not nothing against Frankish. I wanna compete against the best man. You know, I know he took offence when I called him out with the mom marash annoyed didn't believe me, but a wine, not why cannot wear another bell that they've, they've been telling me, I couldn't even tell me a candidate. Tomo get knocked down the second against Marlin. They told me housing stopped by Dmitry Johnson until building stopped by teaching dillashaw. Do the skies ligament. I want to change my mind body as Solan was as fine if he wants to do it. But so let's make it happen. Would you like to fight again this year? Do you think you're gonna have to take the rest of the year off because of the injuries? I'm gonna have to play by ear, but no, I will, I would I would like to fight towards the end of the year for sure I will headline team. There's no more me being combing event either. I, I feel like I'm the new face to the US, really do my credential but in the US she has my credentials. No by not kinda McGregor nobody. And I want I want to be paid love when all be treated like home after the win in, in January of reteach. You went on, like a three month world tour celebrating what do we plan for this one? I'm going back to Brazil, I remember. I made that promise. They'll go back to Brazil in an and celebrate with Dan. I'm gonna take that belt down there. I'm gonna go to Mexico. I wanna go to a bunch of different, Emma. Go to Dubai. I have a good friend to be fighting down there. I'll be hanging out with the shake while oil family thing. Show just doing just doing big things. There have been hope people see that, that aren't the truth men like that. Like there's no denying you don't get lucky for different times. Just don't it's amazing a lot of sponsors. I hope so. I hope so. Maybe I'm just not cringing over. Maybe I'm gonna that by hair blonde. Don't do something there. No, don't do that. Please. Don't do that. Could I just ask? We'll say this just go ahead. And we'll say Lena the Olympics area. Also zig kid that was sponsored by everybody. Coca Cola polo. Ralph Lauren Adidas. BMW cress tie the biggest brazen the freaking world and get an amaz- just like I don't know. I thought that the cringing would be cool. But I guess not. No do not doubt yourself. It's working trust me. It is working. Good. Things are gonna come. I've no doubt of it. Let's end on this since you brought up the Olympics. You said after you beat DJ that was a big deal, but the Olympics will always Trump everything now that you've gone to belts, and you're in this rare category with some of the greatest ever are we starting to rival how you felt after winning in two thousand eight or will that still always be number one for you? I think I think it will ethic it allow never. Okay. Because you wash my shining at one their areas. One of the most precious beautiful celebrations you'll ever seen her life. I'm I've never been somebody, I've never really until now but before one lives L normally show. I never really showed him motion after winning. But I remember the whole year takeout seven I had just gone through. I couldn't wanna tournament to stay my wife like everything going wrong. But I still stuck to race when I won the Olympics down every match. I remember grabbing my high grabbing the American flied yelling life from the top of mine line. Those actually crying like it's an emotion that only a world champion could ever feel this motion. That's your show happy that it's it brings sadness to, and this was special because of that. Because because more was was a killer volun- is a fifty fight Lynch streak has not has last three opponents in the first round. I mean, the dude is that dude is is, is dangerous. And I was able to, to be the guy that I knew that could probably shut my lights out and prove everybody wrong once again and become the champion common. I mean, I'm an Pala Famer ernie'll. Yes. It's amazing. It's an incredible story. Who thought now Dana lights? Dana. Why not want you to tag? Okay. I says they know why this is enough man walk into the new. This is your new face to the US's name is Henry SoHo. He is the Olympic champ, flyway champ, and bantamweight champion the world, and I want to get pay my name has officially changed from the messenger to triple C, and you can add another zero to that check, they know why you have both belt. That's you're gonna walk away, you are willing to walk away. If you don't get paid accordingly. Accurate in. I, I gotta get paid. I gotta get paid. That's what I had to do what you can have all to hear e promising to keep the, the flower division keep it. Keep keep keep your word. I just wanna give pay for now enjoy the victory Henry, he'll up. I hope you get out of Chicago and are able to be okay, on your way out and keep doing that thing that thing right there. That's the thing. I love that thing. Whatever that look is whatever you channel while you do that please keep doing it because it's just phenomenal. That is the money maker. I love it. Channel cheese that she within me. Thank you, Henry. Congratulations to you, captain Eric in the rest of the team. I appreciate this very much. They get your the madman. Thank you. You're a big part of this, too meant that key for the kid for pushing me, and allow me to be me. Areas. Henry, pseudo. How do you not love that guy? I mean really he so likable, he doesn't think too seriously? He's fun. He's entertaining. He fights like a madman. He sometimes acts like a madman. Come on the crown the Cape, the toys the gifts it was amazing the breathing. The breathing. I love that thing. It's great Henry pseudo coming into his own. I remember being in Chicago last year for UFC to twenty-five talking to him on the phone about taking the fight against him. Truce johnson. It was him as us here for me. He was not that guy. I always believed he was that guy. But he just wasn't comfortable enough. Putting himself out there like this now you see the confidence like you can see it there in front of us. It's losing out of him. You see a confident man. He's fighting that way. He's acting that way doing his interviews that way. It's a beautiful thing. So congratulations to Henry, pseudo, congratulations to Valentina shift chanko, how nice Valentina Shevchenko. She texted me in the middle of the show wanted to have on she's meeting with the Chinese consulate and apologize profusely that she cannot come on the show and said, she loved come on to the future. No problem at all. Great win for her. Congratulations to her Tony Ferguson. Great win for him. He's back. He's, he's, he's a good place, mentally and physically. He seems at peace. He seems happy. He seems call. Tom, he seems collected he needs a title shot. Let's hope that he gets a title shot. He deserves that big fight. He has done enough. And then, of course as we look ahead. Now, the big show this weekend is Bill tour MSG. No, you see this weekend. But Friday night, an MSG it's going to be a great one. Roy McDonald Neiman, Gracie chill Sunan? We oughta Machida Kyoji Gucci Darren Caldwell the return of iron PICO and many more. So I'm looking forward to that. I'll be there for that, one on Friday covering it for ESPN. And how great is this a year ago? Tomorrow, was my last show from fighting dot com. A year ago, Friday my first day here at ESPN and what a year it has been. It has been a fun year, but we've got more work to do. We got a lot more fun. We got a lot more fun left in us. It's going to be great. I'm excited. I'm excited. Heavier one behind us. I feel better today than I did this time last year this time last year I was very nervous. I was anxious. I was excited. I was a little sad. The my friend. But I was really excited. But, you know, when you change jobs, you feel a little weird about things. You're not sure how it's all gonna turn out. I'm happy to say it has turned out well so far, but we got more work to do. So. Don't go anywhere. I appreciate all the support. And I appreciate everyone that has followed us here and continues to support thank you very much to all our guest today. It has been a fun day here on the hell wanna show. Thank you very much chill. Son in for coming in studio. Thank you very much. Chris cyborg, great stuff as always from her. Thank you very much, Michelle Waterson. I love the passion. I love the emotion. Thank you very much. K mo-, happy trails, my man congrats on a great career. Thanks very much to Calvin cater. Thank you very much. Mark, Henry, and congrats to him by the way on Caitlyn kagins when I fail to congratulate him. Thank you very much alginate. Sterling, thank you very much. Kill kagan. Of course, thank you very much to the great Henry Suharto and his coach captain Eric elbow seen back next week. Save time and place. I'm out of here.

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Best Of Week 107 - Super Bowl Week

Barstool Radio with Dave Portnoy

3:10:49 hr | 1 year ago

Best Of Week 107 - Super Bowl Week

"All varsity sports will be relocating to Manhattan, we want to take it to the world. But we're trying to take this site crank it. Conquered thing internet. What an idiot now barstool takes over the Sirius XM Airways. What's gonna happen? Real real minor things club, the scumbag club, you I q. America the game shelter slots on the dick controversal here. I believe we're funnier smarter better prettier than everybody else who's dealing are. Stick on the internet by the common for the common man each. Sports radio coming to you from the Ivy Georgia. This is barstool radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three. You want me to start telling me? Well, we were. Who's rig usually our leader? Like his head is chopped off a running around without a waiter Rica's a leader. Well, our saw you is more of a leader on the rigs is alpha though, rigs is what we call him. The busy a host. He takes us in and out of break is the main draw of the show is definitely not alpha rigs is in you do his you do color to his play by play. Yeah. Yeah. He he's it's almost like Bill Walton and Dave Pasch. All right, man. But rigs in whereas zone Unix Phoenix for the waste management. He's sounds fun. I think he's got something. I know if I'm supposed to announce his like Bubba Watson. I think today doing something maybe even playing around golf with him is he Frankie, you know. Yeah. I was not supposed to say. I was like our big thing. Yeah. That's breaking now. Who's the we don't know to what capacity. He's doing it chairs. It's like I mean, you still going to listen to it. That's what we call a tease. Yeah. So anyways, it's a tease. So rigs is there he's flying tonight or tomorrow, and he'll be here. The rest of the week mar through the rest of the and then I gotta leave early because I have a legal activities that I do not the not monster hit not Mosser hits the Mazar. It's club which YouTube tried to get in last night. Too tired. We were just practicing. It's a it's a thing that's catching on people want to be part of it. You know, what sucks? I was supposed to do. You know, who is supposed to be an EMMY see this week was to chains as supposed to have a like we'd review with him on Tuesday. But he bailed as looking forward to that what a pussy big time. Plus, it can only handle the macho say he was probably scared to smoke with you. So I have other stuff. We'll get you guys involved in that. So I gotta leave early today. We gotta do though just to clear it up because we were just take a monster hit how many just one and who has supervise. Well, we video it'll it'll be online. Can we do like reviews? Yeah. Absolute one hit up. So or do you rate our hits do we rate? How are ya? Right. How much does he just do one monster fucking hit? Are we allowed to take Nyquil in advance? So we don't cough as much. That's how you know. You fucking took a monster hit. I don't care how much if you're not coughing. You not smoking. Do you think my vape tricks? Have got me in Mazar. It's only know we'll do that who we do. Anyways. We're here at the bucket. Also. The original barstool radio. Yeah. Very far so radio is no FaceTime. No, hey, what happened that will Rhone you? What's LA? So you disappeared disappear. Hollywood anymore. Basically what my thing. Yeah. So in at all rea-, redone, what an screw up a lot. And the Ivy. I've heard is like the best spot we could possibly be everyone said that once we've announced I also call I reverse the Ivy and bucket. So like, sometimes I think the town is the Ivy and we're at bulkhead and other times, I'm like, okay, we're at the Ivy in Buckhead. So we're here all week twelve to six Dan and crew go twelve to two two two four is Kevin Casey carabiners in then barstool radio is four to six where early for the Super Bowl, you know, that that coward. Roger goodell. Basically what he does to ensure everyone has to get early is they put media day on Monday night, which is insane. Because all the media has to be here for tonight, we're doing radio, but a lot of people don't start getting in this leads to later in the week. We're not allowed on radio row again. So we're here which is. Better in this place will be from what I've gathered jumping as the week continues kind of the same way as before it starts a little bit and gets rolling. We have a ton of guess a ton of gas. How did that happen? Why do we have like such a good Slater guest this year? You know, I'm gonna say something that I should know better. And I know they're listening in the green room the girl with the dark hair who's doing the booking. Kelli, Kelli, monster, very good. So she's just getting us a whole lineup guess, and then we always have the back and forth to with like. Yes, that we know really. Well, like, I put a Greg Olson a Blake Bortles like people who wear legitimately friends with in their PR teams. Like, we'll see we're getting the runaround. It's like, and then you just got text know when you come in, but all the usual suspects. Lot of guests so fun week in the obviously, the patriots per usual in it. So it becomes a very hyped up week for me. I su- most the people here are Lanta people. I would. Yeah. So we'll do a lot of. And I don't know. I don't know if that actually means their falcon fans are not because I don't think the falcons kind of like the Rams don't have a ton of real fans. I don't think but Dobie Lauda he's got a falcons hall. So they'll be all twenty eight three stuff this week too. Which is nice. So we can troll like because we. Have rent? There's no there's no such thing as a rampant. Really now. That's true. So to fact, we will pick on we'll do the twenty eight three I've said this Super Bowl to me is like the patriots verse history. Asterix also like featuring the Los Angeles Rams. You know, they're not a headline. I'm not saying that is not on the field. But that's what it feels like honestly. But I also feel like the patriots are like already just dancing in like dancing on the graves or the Rams right now like they feel like they won. I feel like the patriots fans also feel like they don't think so I really five thousand people coming out to like have a pep rally kind of feels like that's already the celebration. No. That's just the patriots. I think there is in. This is the big story that everyone's talking about. And I'm sure it's been talked about on the radio all day is this mentality at the patriots. And patriots fans think they're underdogs in there is this is true. And I'm going back and forth mingka kinds who I think is going to tell you. I I've never spoken with her. I think she's pretty good. I don't she hates us. I know she's friends with like the PMT crew with sometimes means you hate me. That like I don't know how that relates. But now media the media is now saying they never said the patriots or underdogs, which is just patently false. Like, we're not saying this was the Bengals or team, that's an exist. But when you go to the Super Bowl pretty much every single year like literally every year and people are saying, you're dead. You're on the road as an underdog in everyone's picking against you. That is an underdog. It's not it's not, you know, Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, but the patriots nobody was saying they were going to be here. Like, really, you think just more people are saying that you're dead than have been saying it in previous years. It's not like, but everybody's not saying, you're dead. I think for the most part people are like the patriots are still as big as they ever were. And especially the fact that are in an all that they I don't I think now right now. But it's all right. So you can't carry that narrative earlier we're talking about like it's not gonna earlier in the season when we lost the dolphins game. And then came back and lost the Pittsburgh that was late even I was like, wow. I may I have the video. Oh, where I actually changed. My stance to saying I expect the patriots to be in the Super Bowl too. I will not be surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. That's like. So why were you saying that at the time because they lost to later in the like, what was it about the team like that? They never lose late in the season. They just don't. So we're in a row just a wins and losses losing those two games in a row. Their offense looked a little bit slower, but then Brady actually released the still here Instagram and that was right after that. I was on the beaches of Miami, probably dabbling in the Mazorra hits a club, which I tend to do there. And then I went on the beach may the video like all right? We're back to normal like Brady is right. Everyone's overreacting. But nobody took that there's video after video after video, and is not just cowardly max who I get max Kellerman is troll like he is. He just wants to say the wrong or he is the more. He's in the headlines like Kyle van noy who I like actually singled him out. He's like, basically just say fuck you. But he's like, basically fuck you max Kellerman. But it's not just him. It's it was clever. Rabbit is not just the clay. It's people who aren't even trying to necessarily troll or make the patriots of different in. So that underdog mentally, which as a sports team. You you go to the patriots should never be underdog. I don't care for on the road and Kansas City. I don't care who they're playing as long as bell. Check. And Brady are there. They should be favored verse everybody play in any game that is an elimination game period because they prove they win it. They don't win every single one. But most of the time they're so. Yeah, it is an underdog and people saying Brady's Brady's Brady's gonna hand them Ethel Mahomes. How many people said that that this is like the changing of the guard when you played Pat Mahomes. So the underdog thing fits, it's not the one shot. Yeah. They did open his under. It's not one hundred one shot, but people being mad all the patriots saying there underdog makes me sick. It's like what are you talking about compared to what they are? They are the underdog they really are. But they're just using that as a motivation technique. You don't think Brady believes that like people think? It. He he like he's trying to like internalize all of that. And I think it's working for him. But I just think it's transparent like everybody else sees that. He's like trying to use that like he's obviously a legend. He's obviously the best quarterback that's ever played the game. But he's like needs to find other things. So like get him up. Because once you're already the greatest like what are you playing in a weird way? And you're gonna go you're you're using this analogy, but as a fan and I'd say the Tom Brady fans for patriots. Like, I felt the same way like everybody who doesn't like the patriots is standing waiting like they're just waiting like on the put stake in them. There are waiting for us to lose say aha, I told you so in when it doesn't happen. It's like fuck you. We're we're still here, by the way that moment. Maybe we'll come Brady says five more years bell check. I'm not convinced isn't like cloning himself Star Wars style. So when he dies just there's a hologram sitting on the sideline I was thinking of asking him that at like media day. I couldn't think of how. Oops. I'm not supposed to going. But anyways, where are you going? No comment retract. What was just said? Yeah, we retract it. There's a part of me. So that's what it is. So it's not just Brady like internalizing. It's the real feeling like the thing Eshelman did in the NFL films through the touchdown. Gronk. He's like you're too old. You're too old. They say like, that's not concocted. That's in the moment. That's stolen from the eagles last year. The two old when when he goes the Jason Jason Kelsey had his speech at the end of the his parade there. Like, they say you're too old. They said you can't do this. They said this is these motivational techniques that they use against them. And I don't even I mean Brady all the way from Brady sixth everything, that's what great competitor. Do. They find something they leverage it. They get some. But I don't think is made up, and I don't think the patriot fans in the players are making up. The fact that people didn't think they could do with this year in just by saying, we don't think you can do it when you're as great the greatest team of. All time. That's like, okay. How the fuck. Are. You underestimating us like we're here every year. And you're saying we're gonna not do it. Now that makes us an underdog. That's how they view it. I mean, it's the most he's ever been doubted for sherbert. He's always had. I mean, if you're trying to bring I changed it again, you know, what I mean? I went from expected from like I said expected to I generally with the patriots do not care till the postseason like I don't watch the regular season. I don't care. I know we're gonna be in the playoffs. And that's a given this year is like, oh this team is starting to look a little different till he said that. And then I went back. Yep. I was wrong for doubting for second in the Rams. That's the other question. I never know breaks. What we could do the other big question. I keep getting acids. How important is winning the game to me winning the game outside of the party? And we get another ring in the Pittsburgh aspect of it. Pittsburgh is six Super Bowls Brady now would have six tie it. There's no pressure. Like, I don't think this changes. What you look at. The Brady's legacy does not change winning or losing this game. Really at all in my mind. Then there's more to gain than to lose more gain with a win than to lose with. There's nothing to lose like when we played you guys the eagles. The only thing that I had to lose was you guys. Like, it's an I deal with you and fuck in the bubbly, gang and fucking. In you know, all the eagles people Smit eighty. Donovan McNabb that ping pong ball that Smith has brain like rock and rounds I deal with this. We got flags in the off. What do you want thirty? You can never take that away. Anytime like we played the bears there'd be a lot online because of the bears of spin. The Rams there's nobody to chirp you like as a fan getting chirped is like chirp in a weird way, it sucks because I can't be like except the rest of the country hates us. But there are no Rams fans. Have you seen anything on Twitter from like any Rams fans notch since there are not I really went to L A? There's going to be a video coming out later this week. But there are people I talked to you that didn't know who the Rams were. They didn't know that the football team in Los Angeles. I saw one civilian walking around with Rams gear in all the city of Los Angeles. Like, there's just no one is like is not overstated. It's not so Mike Super Bowl narrative low it is no one gives a fuck about the Rams Knauss Angeles. I mean, it's exciting team. I will say I'm totally distracted. Why are you wearing raiders at? But I just think it's a nice. It's makes you cool. I know that's what I mean. Raiders are just like a. Classically cool brand. There are like. Oh, no chance you want to give it a shot. Joe L? Let me try. On. Better than. Oh, wow. I do look pretty good. I look like you. It changes your aura. Yeah. You look like you could be some weird producer like a red at Bros or white rapper is not that talented. But he's a big social media. You may have that's me. That's just shot of myself, bro. Tommy screams, producer DJ, not that good wealthy family gets gigs. Maybe that you don't deserve. That's what that is gone jazz. Well, think back I was pretty hell. No, hell, no. I need this. Are you gonna tell us when we'd do breaks? Let's go to break. No. I don't know that we have to have. Yeah. We we do have to go to break. We. All right. So we're at the Ivy in Buckhead. We'll be here all week. Come stop by hell yet. Now now that debare stole radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three from the IBM bucket, Georgia. Who's talking about her back on bar story deal live from the Ivy at Buckhead? It's me Dave Caleb in Ronin rigs gets in tomorrow, Kirkman ahead and going to be joining the pro. Yeah. Kirkman hand. Will be on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. So he he used to be at now is on someone else. I love Minahan lotta people hate him. He's kind of lightning rod figure, but he'll be good radio. What can we expect the people who haven't listened to him? He brings the thunder. He's very opinionated. And funny guy I've known him for wild. But he'll he'll just you've just lets it. Fly does not care who he insults. What fights except USA suck? Right. He's dick all the time. He was afraid of him. But other than that, he's very good on radio the house. Why do questions I we haven't talked about this? And I don't know Caleb. If you wanted to talk about it off air, but I am a huge revivalists fan, and like the it's my favorite band on right now. You went to the revivalist when they're in New York. And I asked you what you thought you like I'll tell you in person. Oh, I thought so that is how did you get into revival this? So they play nip tuck it all the time liked it. So I used to see them at a small little chicken box shadow packing. Norton who I'm friends with huge music guy. He'll go to New Orleans and like. Pick like very musically. Not not he won't pick cover bands for like the weekends. He'll pick music. He thinks are super talented small bands on like the rise though. I've they'll have like Trumbull and shorty there they'll have very musically inclined acts so he found them early. They continue to go as so I saw them before anyone knew they were basically, right? Yeah. No. The only reason I wanna to talk to you in person who's because I actually wanted to hear I didn't want you to Texas to me. I wanted to hear what your thoughts were on this. When they first of all, I don't like it when bands work on core into their set. That's just a personal preference. I prefer you have to desire the encore. And then they they too cocky, it's super preplanned on core. You don't like I don't like that personally. But I know I feel like Enron feel like every has a plan. Oh, oh, by the way, people know punk is doing a concert or Wednesday night. Well, now, they do it didn't can out. So pop punk. Our house band is doing a show. Oh here Wednesday night. I think seven pm Rhone. Yes. Seven earn it later. I'm just speaking of pop punk and encores our first ever show. We in our settlers, we wrote this is where we stop and ask for an encore. And then we came out for the encore when we made the mass for it. Right. Which I think is a great thing. You would have got it. Anyway, if you didn't ask for it. I don't know we turned ruins Mike on and we acted like we didn't know it was on ruins because we were here. Give us a enormous care. We weren't going to give you they'll give to go meta with it. And for thrown he's like, oh, no. Maybe they heard us, and we just ran it out revivalists, listen reviving. So I want to hear your opinion on this anyways. They come out. They have a pre planned encore. I'm not a fan. It is what it is. But I was asking my girlfriend. I was asking me. What do you think is going to be their big song because I feel like they've done it all like all the catalog of revivalists that I was familiar with. They had hit the big numbers already. So what are they gonna come out with? This is definitely a preplanned on-court. They left the lights on on stage. They come back out. And do you. Remember the song that they did? They the one I love is the first one they did the gun control song that wasn't that that wasn't the one that from my concert. So this is what I thought was night to night two. They came back out on court encore they come back out. And then they they like this is a song. We like we little song. We wrote called a stop shooting us. It's about gun control with like just like the guy played guitar and he's song opinions about gun control. And then they left the stage. So he used that as a chance to just get his personal thoughts off. I was I was dumped down to you like, all I. I like the revival this but just don't like their stance on gun control. I mean, do you not think that's weird story? Guy. I want to be like I'd like to do you not think that's weird that they know a little bit as an encore. Thank you, just go with your best song. Okay. Your opinion on it though. I love the review. I didn't stay for the encore the second night. So that's why I didn't see they played their major songs as the encore night one. Okay. And it's a weird theater because there were seats side note, let's move to the house. The house has been a big source of lightning. Rod I heard Caleb. You got thirty minutes asleep is that I mean, that's probably more, but he was sleeping next to boot abandoned booted kept wrestling over I was the last month the house last night that should tell you about the sleeping rain still. Brett Brett book, the house for those that we we're in a house very close to here. How many people are in the main house? Probably fifteen or told me. Like, two bathrooms three bathrooms, not all bathrooms all bedrooms. Like, it's just beds on top beds in the basement, Frank. You said it's like prison. That's how you described it to me the way it was. I was very similar what a prison would be. Well, at least you have your own self. Yeah. Yeah. We have a very small blanket. We had just a mattress. And it was it was towed ahead. Just just mattresses stacked upon each other a lot of people saying fire fest part to. Yeah. It's not great. I have. I mean, an awesome room is is huge. It's a palatial estate but the air conditioning situation stinks. And it was a thousand degrees in my residents so much room to heat. I don't know. I water pressure on knock great heard. You have a bad day. I do have a day the toilet cleaner. Astle is a good. Yeah. It's awesome. As automatic. They don't even have to tell it what to do. Well for that part. You do. But it's a heated seat. It knows. When you sit knows when you rise the toilets and electric factory. That's about the best thing, and there's food everywhere. So and I don't know the other house, but I'm I'm in house to I'm living like a king my own bedroom. Own my own bathroom is hourly. Now, actually. Actually a day this morning. It was about forty five minutes. All right. So that's what happened houses there were two houses. Tom, you're originally house one. Yeah. I. So Rhone Caleb. KFC fight Oberg all house two guys. There are forty five minutes away by better sleeping arrangements. So I asked you guys Caleb and Roane. And I knew caves says like you guys come in the house will arrange the best we can. But I think it's going to be bad sleeping arrangements. So that's that's what we're dealing with. Yeah. I I was like all I'm not going to get to broke down at the guys in house one. But you know, what I still get a nice bed to sleep in. And it's just to be here when we still are able to bro down watch moral. Yeah. And that kept me up. That's the other thing my bedrooms like in the living room. So as long as somebody's awake and house one I will be awake which kinda blows how much blame are you putting on Brett because office magic Brett so stupid. I mean, I don't hate him as a person. I really don't I think he's a nice enough guy. He's a nice guy. I may be friends with them in a different lifetime. But I never want his life impacting mind. Like, I don't want him involve in any decision that could somehow affect me. And he's still somehow is. Involved in laws up to do when he worked for your company, though. I know, but we're starting to like Kelly. Great right there. The Booker ten yellow awesome. So we have now like really good people's things spider. Not so good good trip. So it's just Brett shouldn't be involved in anything that is, you know, related to me, and he should probably look at the houses before he booked them. That would be my suggestion. Go see 'cause they do make everything look nice on Airbnb. But if a beautiful pool, and I feel bad at believe it or not I am a team player. I feel bad that everyone doesn't have bathroom. I don't want us a mind necessarily, but I feel bad late, bro. I'm sure it is too late. So ran through apart definitely sucks. But what are you gonna do as bread is bread suspension? So Brett was with the spitting chocolates guys who were out in California for a week and him and Gaz wrote their sales guy, and they're producing videos every twenty seconds, and then just getting shit faced and drinking and Phineas. Like, why are you guys both out there? Gaz Paul came home instantly Paul's only answer to why he was out. There is like well I had to be here because one night Ryan went he didn't have hotel room. It's like was that me? It's like why book that's a good point is. So that was what called it? And Brett nobody knew what he was doing out there. He was activating the brands. So I think like for what does that mean for Bud Light? He'd be putting these Bud Light. It's into these tubs. And then he activated the brand need another guy to do looks at it. Yes activists. So I think I told them off. I think Erica, and I were both like, he's so useless. Let's just send them home and tell them it's not a party. So he's coming out later, but we're not needed the party. He'll be out. He'll be out. He'll be out for for rough and rowdy, which I still think will be the best event we've ever done. It'll be a heavy hitter event. I'm excited for that. A lot of people land asking how to buy tickets for that. You can't it's a small relatively speaking venue. I think twenty five three thousand tickets available on they're just going to, you know, all the celebs and athletes in town to watch it, you can buy pay per view. And then we're going to have to guest announcers and things like that. So you guys will be interviewing a ton of people. We'll have people doing the call. So it should be a fun time. We just got fitted for our tuxes between the two radio shows. Very nice looking nice, look good. So it's going to be more of just like a party with fights just happening in the middle. Or is it going to be more of that stadium like atmosphere? Everybody is watching and cheering. I think everyone's it was have you ever been? You've been a rough. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's an electric thing that even if you're in the venue, then you just get captivated by rights and start watching. But there won't be seating. It's going to be you can just float around the floor. Do whatever you want to do. So. So I'm expecting that to be great night. I really do. I really really a game changer. Yeah. It is it do you think that that's going to be are you aiming for this to be like a tradition or just see how this one goes? Like this like, this you like this to be a staple of super love it now rough and rowdy the thing. We know it's state by state I want you can get approved. I looked at the next five Super Bowls because as a patriot fan. You're always looking ahead like where we going next. What's the next team? We're gonna play or city I should say. So the next five Super Bowls after this one, by the way, is this normal Atlanta weather is it just always like kind of thirty forties around this time. Dow people are giving me the yes, sorta I was greatly under the impression that -lanta is warmer than it was like seventy five I thought we were going to get a warm weather like Santa hotlanta dirty bird, but the next five Super Bowls. I'm not sure the order, I think it's Tampa my New Orleans LA in Scottsdale. So it's like five great cities. Weather wise after this one. So I'd love to go. I don't think is legal in California. It is legal in Florida. So we'll be there for those two for. Sure amazing. And what about you guys? What do you guys have planned this week? I know kale commercials coming out. Yeah. Got tonight through Wednesday, Also Tuesday. We'll have a commercial a Super Bowl commercial coming every night. That's what I've been working on since. I get that s a lot. It's like what's Caleb up to and like, I don't know. It's like he came in. He gave me a quick pitch. It's like all right, go do it. And then it comes out. I'm kind of excited. I didn't even know until I just saw some of it. Some of the best barstools ever come out with is it the same product, and you try Marshall or different. No. So basically, the the whole premise of it is that there's there's a lot of there's a lot of issues with our Super Bowl and the experience around it. And these commercials are not the sell products there to fix these issues that are going on with our Super Bowl. It's a great tease. Right. I think we have to go to break. Right. You gotta head out. Breaking I'm gonna go. Yeah. I'm going to. Is the only day won't oh Friday. It'll be a little bit late with Ronnie. All right. Very back for real. This is Caleb song. I mean, this is a great song. No. Why are they playing gun control off for those? I thought it was like what's the protests on what's on a shooting? She's a little song. We wrote about gun control called shoots you down. Are you trying to say? Trying to make safe and make it music. No gone from the Ivy. This is the over super. Can you hear the person in the thing you're talking? Jump in. That's my thing. We are live from Atlanta. We got a hell the group. It's barstool radio. People are using it's Super Bowl week. We got a shit ton to get to we got Dave. We got Tommy smokes myself. We've got a very special guest Kirk today. We're gonna have them for three days if we make it that far we offer the invite. We'll see that's that's all I can ask them. Yeah. That's it. Let's hope we don't get kicked out of here because we would kick that everywhere else. This far it's been a hell of a twenty four hours for you. Dave. How are we feeling pal? I'm good the NFL things. So obviously PFC and I got the boot yesterday from media day, which does just so stupid because we're already in there for an hour, and I got kicked out in inbetween pm t probably made it three cores the way through and it just drew attention to it. So he's just an absolute moron. I mean, they acted like it was a terrorist. Did you see how many suits? We're following me out. There was like ten ten legitimate full little NFL lapenne guys like. I was going to do something. It's throwing people off of me the end of that video would all I loved it was like a game of thrones at the end with like the dead army comes through, and you can't fucking believe how many of them there are that somebody suits. I loved it. The more the merrier the only thing I regret in hindsight. And I says going to do it once I because I saw what was happening, right. I saw them start buzzing in guys on his walkie talkie. Talking into risks being like, we got him. We got him day port. I heard that. And I was actually talking to two people in the Rams front office. And we're fans of barstool they scattered and I looked around. It was only me and like I starting get circled. I should have just. I should just fallen down. I should have made him drag me out like those dog videos where you just see them getting like, everyone would have watched it. That was my only regret. It was strange. I told the story. So the NFL security took this very seriously. There was no, hey, this is kind of funny, we get it. That was not how the NFL was viewing it, but they took him backstage in. There was like a swat team room not for me. But for if something major happened, and they put me in that room. So it's all these guys with all guns, and then local police officers, and they started asking me questions like who are you? What do you do? And once they start to realize what it was you could tell like, we really fucking waste our time with this like what what are you doing back here? But the NFL wouldn't let me go in the NFL. We try to they want to prosecute there. You're going to jail in a continued to go on in the best thing. I said put him on me because it's like, I don't wanna go jail jail sucks. I've been in jail for this. But it's like that would have been great story. If I was just in jail who do you think this is not good Dell, of course, down Roger Goodell himself. Well, I mean, he wasn't there up saying why at this point? I mean, these guys are adults they have some brains. Why are they don't if Goodell cult you were talking before the show? Yep. If the NFL called today and said Goodell wants to do pizza review the fucking game will be over done you'd be over. It'd be it's at the Oldham. Dick would gets on. He looked like he would be stealing. He would be stealing one of your favorite things from job. It'd be done. They are incredibly stupid. I just think have no self. We're say they've no self-awareness. None. They couldn't have that image. I have of ten suits. You. That is that is like the unit bomber was walking. You realize you are going to get kicked out of the Super Bowl. Do you really think? I will. Yes. I would be something. Now we were talking about before again because you showed up late. We be pissed off if that happens or you'd think that's good business. I four. I'll be pissed off. But it's good business. Imagine. That's I think it's gonna happy. I mean, you'd love imagine that store. Roles going on. I don't know. What's hap-? How about this? You get arrested or you get kicked and you get shot, but it's not like life threatening. I take a there if the NFL like shot me in the kneecap and offs painful. It's a Wild Thing. Like, you say, I don't know how they're somebody's. Like, you know, we're make somebody who gets it in the right? That's the baby is like under the radar. They love. No, no, no. No, no. He's he's people. I don't think that's had absolutely zero sense of what was going. They were mad mad. They wouldn't make mad. They were demand old under questioning or. No, do I full notes. First of all do I fold into question. This happened. You've asked the question twice. So I think he might have. I was the police officer. They're asking questions have you been arrested before I said, yes. So like for what it's like, well when Roger Goodell suspended Tom Brady, I went and handcuffed myself parole violation. No that expired it could've. Okay. Right. Right. Right. So sitting down the police officers like deflate gate. You thought he's innocent. It was like I know he was innocent. He's like really I thought was guilty. I explained maybe anything other fucking deflate. But these people forty five minutes, I went through beginning everything every every everything like you have all day, you're not going. It was just a police officer is getting paid to do. Well that. Yeah. Because that's what the little concern. And the police officer also thought it was concerning. He's like, I don't know why you're still here. But the NFL was prosecute prosecute prosecute. I love them being like, oh, I think we got him. He was just you wearing a fucking Mustang. He says not. He was talking to his wrist in front of me. He's like we got him. I've looked around and people just start coming around meal. ER? I think I'm getting kicked out they crack, that's Dave Portland. You're so stupid to. He's like I need you to delete a video was like. All right. What video I look at the phone, and I deleted it. But they didn't make me delete it from my deleted videos. You know, how relieved you delete it? Yeah. That doesn't delete. It. You idiot. Just not concede people. So it was best case scenario. I mean, I got I would've liked to ask the patriots Ida question for Bella check. That was gold. Gold say as one of the great all-time winning coaches, somebody who values winning games. What do you think the Philadelphia Eagles getting rid of Carson? I mean getting rid of Nick foles MBP Carson Wentz never won a game. So that hurt but other than that where headline news again. I mean, we dominated last night and not just you this time. But obviously, you have t- comments are getting the boot. Oh, yeah. Every year with this. And I Don I just them if they could figure the fuck if they just gave us fifty credentials and gave everyone a barstool credential that would be that would take that away from all they have all news is give us credentials in. We no longer have any like rallying cry nothing. They are so stupid. Roger Goodell is such a it is you don't think Adele could step in and be of course, he could. I mean, do you think Roger Goodell himself in his office? Spend time thinking about that. I talked up if it is true. We've been in the news enough where he just be like just say, yes. Like, I asked AC James for credentials. I tried to do that right weapon. Right. When he said, they said, no so fast. Right. I don't know makes no sense. It's got to come from him. He's got to be. I don't know come from him. But if I were him just be like fuck, let them do it. But it's so stupid. He's an idiot. He doesn't understand. He's not. He's the kind of guy doesn't actually like there's no real normal person underneath there. I know I say I say to the one you get kicked out of the Super Bowl. That would be amazing. If I were they gonna find me into one you get shot thirty one you die. How are they gonna find me at the super? Well, if you're posting videos can take pictures and videos, if I'd do it my face, they want to wear am around you. I don't think they kicked nails suppo. I am Ben Mercedes came in. And that way people I call you're not really bands. Like, no, somebody from Mercedes came in and said, we run the mercy, and he's gonna be like a salesman. No like somebody who runs the buildings. He's like all Mercedes-Benz buildings you're banned from how the hell are they going to force that better? I already got a contact from the state farm building, which I was just at and I'll probably get in trouble reached out a partner in the building. He wants me back in there to do a video which I'm just going to be like fuck you. Roger I got again. I'm one step ahead of the sky. I'm always one step ahead. That's that's the problem. It's a credible. If it seems like I always win this because I do that's a stew finer, quote, I would say I don't feel very confident in their ability to ban you from all these stadiums. Because every year you're banned from NFL media day, and you got in with a friend fucking live ninety well well media day as long as they let in it's very just because these people are so stupid, I explained to them how I did it, and they still get it. I'm like I just bought. A G a ticket and walk through the front door like what door? It's like where everybody wants was that some master. Okay. This isn't that was an oceans Heiser associate. And then you have a minimum wage person. Checking right patches, that's the other thing that is they don't give a shit at all know who you are. They don't care. No in all you do is wave thing. Like, first of all, not many people probably are trying to sneak into this thing. It's not like some high falutin event. So there's not, you know, they honestly made it seem like I put together a scheme for years to do this. It's like we just cobbled this thing to go. How do you see how do you see the security the badge? It's like because you give out thousands of thousands. Not that hard to see a picture of it. They're fucking everywhere. So Kirk y'all got you in the house, I'm here and he's making news. Really mad. They make. No, it's just as mild compared to the video. I don't know if you've seen it rigs. He basically a costed a woman shut up did a cost. It is how I would describe it. I first of all this is the entirety of the prep for this program. This is what I'm hi this is on the handing. We don't even use. This just say why even have this in my hand doesn't matter that we don't like the prep. Nobody really know how much prep did he do it. Plenty of prep at four in the morning. Yes, why did all day, Dave? But then you wake up the next morning that preps useless. That's not true. If you go to bed at ten, and you wake up what happens we tended for everything? Like what tape porno is being held in media night the Super Bowl short of that. I shit happens. I mean, do I care about Jeff Garcia stats how many pixie through while? You do this coming on the show and ask him about the stats, and I probably want it. I don't know. We don't really use that. I don't know why we use all stuff. Anyway, that just makes us feel better. We don't actually wilder as far as I know friendly with the PMT guys. She was in the office. She's doing stuff. I see this video of you. You're going up to her in in the airport today radio row today radio row, and it looked like an old school day port. And he just like it is in. No, I did not. I did not. I did not a couple of years ago in Houston. It's your Bose in Houston. She wrote something I don't remember the story. She wrote about how L patriots fans are bailing because of Trump, and then she quoted one person the story. It was bullshit. We called her on it. She got pissed off fucking block fest. And then she accused either me or Jerry Kelly him, I'll partner of buying a drink to the Bart Houston at one end. Of course, we're on the air at five AM. I don't drink. What do you mean? What do you mean accused said that somebody from the show bought her drinks that's not a violent crime, which never happened? But I mean, that's not even I mean, but I didn't do it. Right. But I think the location is that were at some bar trying to buy some single, girl drinks, John. It didn't happen. So we called her on that she got all pissed off. I saw today. I just wanted to get the record straight. She's a journalist and she wouldn't answer the questions. She not answer the questions, she ran away. Sharon away. It looks like. Oh, there's no blame on me. I'm not going to do this. I'm not doing this. Not flaming you. I'm not the blames on her. I'm saying it looked like she didn't anticipate a conflict. So what what are you going to call your kid? I'm Ed and each other questions, right? I'm honored to talk about her. Did she know that there was a conflict? Yes. So yeah. Because I didn't get like I'm looking for Peter King. I wanna call so. Today. You wanna cost him to? Yes, why? Because you want to what cost? No, really, do you have a problem? I I have a sort of a long simmering not like you. But a simmering history with him. And that one of the questions I was gonna ask us about your horrific. Treatment of women the Porsche. That's what I'd like to ask. I mean, I've seen the videos. It's like one Tano. I don't know why women like I was upstairs. Women chained with a pig. I'm a pick specific. I mean, stuffing them in the islanders those talk about that. No. We don't do that here. While our thing. Whatever what do you mean? What video on this, whatever? It was interesting video. Good job you. Yes. Yeah. I don't know the back story. I don't know. I'm not saying whose side I'm on you on that incidence was the loyalty. Well, I could see the first what happened. I who makes you think somebody from your show butter drink. It's like russillo. Russillo. Russillo. No. He was not there. Then it was one in the morning. We're on it's five somebody associated with your show. Oh, we're everyone's in bed. So she made it up. Yes. All right. That I'm on your side. If that's what happened, of course. Okay. Yeah. I guess I mean if that's actually what happened. Then you think it was someone pretend which should be using your name the fucking, Mike. Why am I being why accusing me we're trying to get to the eight everything else? People said that you like he gets very defensive. We're just having a conversation as the internet can be three names the internet. I mean, I'm a names up the top names of the talk. But the internet says listen, it's yet. No, the internet says a lot of things if you read what they say about me, you think I'm a monster at sure, and that's ridiculous. I'm not I'm one of the nicest guys, you'll ever meet always said is true. And rigs you had a big now rigs somebody rigs youth Bubba Watson. Bubba Watson all day yesterday. Played around a golf with them eighteen holes, you did an hour long podcast afterwards he and his caddy net. Scott now, you're a notorious Bubba Watson hater famously known. The biggest dick on tour holes. He has every fifteen he got the role is the least likely guy that the PGA tour players help and they saw a fight. So and now a little background on rigs. He has very strong opinions on golfers. And then he'll meet a golfer, and he'll suck. Dick, kind of like what you do with Brady in the interviews. It not. There was very little mouth us there. So now, you're a Bubba guy. So look, here's the here's the situation. Let me explain myself, please. I if and we've said, this you said this with Brian James, and we just talked about Roger Goodell if you step into our world, and you agree to give us the time of day immediately. You're going to get positive points from us. That's fair. I can I if you wanna call it being bought, whatever fine. I don't really give it shit. I'll just admit that it's called being buy not whatever. Yeah. I could be bought. Let everybody know. How can be bought it's fine. You bring Meteo golf course. You like give me a great round at a top, seventy course. And then afterwards you're willing to answer. My questions for an hour. Long jump on my podcast, all that stuff immediately going to be okay, positive points. Then on top of that. If he does answer the tough questions, which he did I grilled on a little bit about his relationship with Ted Scott who is infamous for its always bitching out in Rams every hits shitty shot and like yells. He looks at sixty eight that Shinnecock your caddy was fine. Right. No. My cat sucked. Fire a mid mid loop. I tried to get him off because he's trying to rush bicker. That's why he wasn't playing by the rules of the tournament. He's like just pick up your ball. It's I do unlimited Mogens pick up the ball back. Comes on. He answers the questions and bubble. Lots in another like, the another part of it was I thought he would definitely be a nice guy to me because he's obviously inviting me he's not going to be. I'm gonna fight you like to be. But I thought he'd be a little bit of introverted weirdo, and he wasn't. He was incredibly conversational. He was funny. Like chirpy about my shirt and was very like getting into it in the mix with the guys. So for me taking those things away from it. It was like all right. If I see a guy on TV, and I think one thing, and then I spent an entire fucking day with them. And I think another thing credit to me for having the ability to be like, oh, I could change based on evidence. What's the cutoff for that? What do you mean? I mean, if bin bin Laden, we're still around vice you, the nice course out of the desert eighteen holes, a golf caddy will really nice to you. Are you gonna flip at that point? If he's still alive I gained there has to be live with like this lesson on the record if bin Laden was alive. He's like I love barstools fourth. I still hate him. Still not pizza video. No, I would not would not. No, I would not get page views. I know I thought about it for a second in maybe like you could kill them after twice. I would I bin Laden is pizza. No, there's nothing bin Laden could do that. He could say to me that make me be like I liked this guy. What if you had a Saturday is for the voice flag flying above his head? That would be good for only brand. Know, I'm out. I'm bill. I'm with you company. Or if you're alive you really wanted to play golf. I'd be like, look, I appreciate it. Stacey. I mean, we used to find the number you somewhere. You know? We interview interview Bubba Watson because he wrote that hard term club years ago travelers championship. But you all these questions he was I was surprised if you it's actually pretty good. And like, I said, look, I know he's going to be nice anybody. Who's like, oh, I wonder if this they're clearly tried to shape their image a little bit. So they're going to be nice. They're not going to be. Oh, yeah. Come to course. And then be a complete fucking Cox hundred Jimmy. But he also was chatty. Ted, Scott, his caddy. Was there with them? I could very clearly tell like the two of them are boys. They're telling stories laughing it up the whole time. So it's not like he just berates fucking hates this guy all the time. So having seen that up close and in person, it was a much more real look than maybe the two second clips that you get on TV that make them look like a dickhead. So for me, I'm now a Bubba Watson fan. I mean, one issue going to have you keep getting bigger with this podcast, you keep interview more golfers. You'll like everybody gotta have villain. This is ruined. If he pulls her comes on. And I like the Boulter we might be done with golf just starting to do podcasts. I don't know that would be a prominent. And I can't I never know when we have to go to break my internal clock. Says we're near break. But I also then I had to like fire our PR firm like our ooh into it. We could double if we have to saw this. We go to Jeff Garcia now. She is right here. So we've moved them up. So let's face it. Let's do the teaser that after we do. Jeff Garcia is up next. Okay. That's also because I'm sorry. There's also a side to this story. Revolving me that you're not gonna like Travis. Yeah. You're not gonna like, wow. We got a double teaser gas. Then we got to get to the bottom of this. We'll be back. All right. Big news at barstool. I don't know. It's big news. But I just got this Email, which I don't like the looks of it was entitled subject matter. Good luck. Bree explanation points said, hey, just f y the Super Bowl, we'll have full facial recognition technology available all over the stadium exterior and at all entry points. The patriots actual uses. Gillette? Just not well advertise announced whatever you can do to alter your facial features. Do it all trust me? Good luck. Bring back the mustache. Yeah. That's that's a legitimate. Now, you're you're you're you're not I'm telling you, it's not gonna work not gonna work you're gonna fail. You got. Here are notoriously pessimistic person. I see failure in your failure is success though. You not gonna lose. If you lose your loot you win. I guess that's one way to look you got to have a plan for if you get kicked out. Well, you better get arrested. If you just get kicked out your pussy. It's it's time to get arrested getting denied at the doors. The worst thing that could have either got there's no. But if you don't move they have to arrest, you, are you gonna pump? If you get if you get the tan, you're gonna put on a show. Yes. Listen, I want to put on a show last time it happened so fast. I didn't ready. Yeah. If they stopped me from the game, you I know what you do you just fall down. And you make them carry you out. That's the show. Ethics. I felt pretty much. I think that's the play. But then it gets very touchy when listen you can talk if the game, I don't care about Goodell. But when like legitimate police officers are like if you don't get up. Now this is resisting arrest, and you're going to be like in jail, if you're willing to get paid for it. Taste. I could take. It's I don't want to be in jail for like weeks. I don't have that type of constitution. Right. But this might be worth getting building ups on the you're bringing a tasers next couple of days. If a if a police officer says to you you're fucking with us now, if you don't get up like we're gonna take this as you just fuck with the police at this point are you in or you not in. I'm in bus. We say, you know, I I'm sorry. Mr officer. I just know that I did not. I would just I think it was Jeff Garcia. I mean, there's only on the way out of here to make up. I would respect the shit out of that. My fight is not first law enforcement. I respect police. I respect all its first the NFL. Sure if Goodell would come down. I I would create a show, but he won't meet you the street because he's a coward. I would almost even though I did see him. He's a huge, dude. He's tried to chase him at the masters. I saw me disappear. He had one of those coats. You could get into place only the green coat. Yeah. So he got into a place. I can get to he saw me. Oh shit. He's got a huge. That's a tough spot to whoever's got a green jacket at Augusta that that's just a whole nother. Oh, that's totally different. Anyway, it's like they're teasing it. So we had a little PR miss out today. I don't like PR agencies. I never have like PR agencies. I've written about PR agencies as we've gotten bigger we have PR agency more. So to get us appearances. And things we may not usually not to spin like I don't care what people say about me. It's more. Hey TMZ. You see this or get our name out there or whatever. And they're good. But they don't know my enemy list. Apparently, even though they should. So they sent the super sappy emailed. A clay Travis like, hey, clay, while you Dave Portland your show. He just got arrested, blah, blah, blah. It was when I saw clay Travis screen shot at the night. Good move in tweet it lasts into it. Because that's a good. I I hate fucking Travis. He's begged me privately to like come. Let are people going to his show? He just wants to be friends with me because I'm so powerful. And he's copied and he's modeled entire life. After me. And he's such a non charismatic loser in this guy. Purtill every time I see him in no headsets, just see him. He turtles when I'm in his face. I blew vape in his face. He took it like a little pitch because that's who clay Travis is for him to do this move for the PR people give them handed. Tune my head exploded. I ask people that Greenland. It was you were just like I'm gonna fucking. Killed this girl. I know the girl I know I've been out with her socially she dates or you to date wanna Paul's best friends. I know her. She's nice. I was so I called her up in Reims her out in front of like one hundred people fired or nothing. The PR company is getting fired. I don't want her fire. But if you don't know my enemy list and put me in that anything that gives any of my enemies one inch advantage over me. I have to fire you a win for him today. There's no, oh, yeah. I think I'm going to write a blog. I'm debating it. Okay. Clay, Travis posts form, Email mass Email because that one out everybody. Mass Email ruins a girl's life. That's good. Expand on that. That's what he did. Sure. What were you gonna say that I won't like I would say tomorrow in the Qatif Okamoto with him. May I may get to I'm gonna say between to promote my new radio dot com show, which is going to start in March. I will be on clay Travis tomorrow with. Oh, you disgusting. Pig. I have to promote tap dance. Are you gonna fuck you up shot up? Fuck you'll you'll know you'll he's basically you got have you ever interacted with him? Yes. I think he's great. You think he's great? I'll tell you what we we live person. I what's not that. I don't. Are you an authentic person to cry? You are Kirk. I you are. I don't I don't know him enough to speak to the level was off. Would you say that he's like voted for Obama's like a democrat? Yes. You'd think that in his life. No. Like, he's he's he's a Republican, isn't he? No. That's my point. Yes. What are you talking about? I mean, his whole thing is like Republican conserve. He's not. Okay. You pointed this out before going to show because he voted no odd. Yeah. Okay. So he's not funny. He doesn't gamble. He talks about gambling doesn't Gail Kate everything. He does is the frog rather have me he stole my stick. Would you rather have me nocco on or go on and challenge him about the? Oh, I was going to do it on air is going to say different things. Gonna take off. Be like does talk about Lee is mentioned that you know, me if he says they'll bring up like I have made this man turtle so many times, and then he'll just go in both deep. You see what he has to stuff Pap what eight p don't be a pussy. That's his do. You know? Stupid that it's pretty stupid. He's dumbest lamest most unoriginal unfunny. The first time met him before I had an agenda with him dead serious a Super Bowl big cat invited them over first of all he's like I don't understand how dick heads and insult fucking talking about. So oldest insult in the book braiding, so. I had no problem with them. What he said to Dan? Right. This man is so boring. He can never be invited on anything. We do ever do. He's in. Then he does this over the top routine. He stole press conferences from me you stole murder for he admitted it is like I stole all your stick. Because his wasn't working. So guys, they'll be deported junior and himself. The only thing he didn't steal for me. Was my love of the patriots. That's it. Okay. And that's coming back to hurt him because he's fucking wrong about them. We and then my PR company gives them this layup this layup at your issue should be met him peeping method. The PR people. They give Trump what he did to. What he did? He opened it took a dump right in there. I don't hate they travel a big day yesterday today. You're losing. The clay Travis. I'm not lose all day. Clay travis. Stay clay Travis day. It is listen clay Travis was given a layup. Not by me. That's what hurt your best. Buy your bits by your team. It's not my team. He are you can of leader you I thought of horse Kirk leads from the head down when you're running a one hundred million dollar multi international empire. You can't keep track of every little multi international. Jess, I did just what is that? What's international twice? Oh, no. It is. It means. We were more planets at me a little bit globe. Twice. Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay. Right. I knew that. I do that. At least I understand I understand please can take. So this PR company. I didn't even know they're sending us. Now. You sound like you say, I don't know. That's on you. That's your fault. How was it? My fault accreditation. Clay travis. I'm just you know, just a moment. You'll see this guy. So fucking boring tomorrow retry. Trust your invite ethical suck Zimbardo go back to some Brown. OB? I got enough. I'm out that might take those balls to. We'll see how somebody to make you laugh once once click and maybe laugh once again, I'm this just I'll just go back to either want me to I'm happy to be here. Man. You could do it. If you will. I'm happy as a friend loyalty or to go on and challenge it going to react to that tomorrow on a challenge. That's how you do. Also lies about his ratings is number. You see how he does? That mean? Yeah. Sure. I don't know does seem very focused on us. We'll just happened your life. You're going on the show tomorrow. This guy has been nuts like Casey's Casey Smith goes on his show case Smith was on his show before mine. So I don't say no to that. I'm very fair. But I'm not gonna let you use our guys because you're a nobody clay Travis in the only reason you want a big cat on or somebody because you need us to chose your stuff. So I will not help him. That's what is he's a front. I said his Dan before we go. This guy is using us. He's a fraud. He's posted private emails from Dan. This guy's trash is trash it yet. He begs he'll beg. Hey, why doesn't Dave like me? I just wanted to be friends at the masters. He came up. He's like, hey, just come on get the fuck away. Play Travis literally what I say. I'm not going on your show. Dude. You there Franco? Yeah. He picked me to go come on. Just give me the time of day. I'm a big fan. You left him on his hands and knees as he walked away. I go, you know, what kiss fight yet? I'll think about it. And he did it because he always does that her. And I said, you know, what clay still no? And then they'll go on go. Dave you. Beg clay Travis. You beg. Derek shows. There we go. This man clay Travis sat next to me on an RV. I took vape smoke, and I blew it in his face, many took it he's just after took it. What would you like me to ask him tomorrow? You're a smart guy. I'm just saying I'm happy to something. Like, they communicate him tomorrow. I have a house yoga good enough. I'm not gonna do the ticket. The number one thing is Dave Portnoy says you stole his whole shtick because you knew yours weren't working, and you became a version of him. And you've admitted it in the past because he has okay. He y'all. I'm not afraid that confrontation. No, you know. Why like you out? Great Dawson, more people like you, not like, you know, oh in Boston. Yeah. It's like fifty fifty it. That's what you want. Right. That's the Howard want people to light you want everyone to like, you know, you just don't want apathy. Why do you need clay Travis alike? You I don't want to travel. I feel like you need a little bit. I want. I want him to powder down in kiss kiss. Do you wanna teach probably like, which you that's one thing. You don't like about him. They said he was worth that serious hundreds of millions. This man set that he said that. I think that means the hours up. Helvin our barstool radio a lot going on Dave's fired up. We're gonna hit a break. We'll be back at the top of the hour. We're back for so radio. Second hour. We had a hand in the house. We got Dave. Hobby smokes, myself talking. A little clay Travis a little PR on clay. I'm already give him too much because he'll smell. They're talking about. I also this is the last thing I don't like how he puts himself on my level. Like, he kinda give them that. When you do. Well, I didn't do anything. My PR companies set me. That's yeah. And that's you you have to accept some responsibility adult if you sell don't sound like Klay one year, just a wise, a friend. I mean, we're getting tonight one year one man bands. One year one man band, and as clay said, well, the differences, I could figure out how to hire people monetize them. I've built an empire. Clay Travis is a one man string band, and he puts himself on my level. It's insulting. And then our PR person gives it just on done. I'm done talking quite until tomorrow when I got to deal with this. Rico? I did not expect this. What are you got Rico? I. I. We got nothing to Rico. He's get a phone that works where he goes. Here. Yeah. A little bit better. I was great. Yeah. All right. On. And. Nobody can hear you Rico you sound like you're underwater. Paul. Rico Bosco for somebody who says you the best caller on terrestrial and satellite radio. There's a call. We can't hear you is even still there. Now, he's not there anymore. I know he speaks on speakerphone and after three years of doing this. I know I say Rico, I know you want to scream into your car. Just put put it in your in your face. He refuses to do it. I've no idea what he was saying no award. It's thought I heard the word patriots. But he made he still has to issue the apology for taking credit for the patriots success. It was great because the commer he was you could actually kinda here that he started to get. Oh, yeah. All Dave where we had this week with the other feuds, obviously, we're going to talk about clay Travis anymore. You got kicked out yesterday of opening day. Who else is on the docket? I'm trying to track down Peter King that fat. Fuck get his face. I will never forgive him for what he said about us. And he's quoted as saying I talked to women who have been like mistreated barstool that is a lie. So I'm going to confer I want confronts him about that banned all rappers from pizza reviews Mona. So what happened today? So I had a pizza review little John. He does he does. Okay. I'm not familiar with his work. Yeah. That's what he does. What does he do? What? That's a little John Dale then. So I had a little run in with who's the guy had before. So divulge avoid so soldier boys stood me up. He wanted to get out of a car for half an hour made me, wait. And then he came in. Tommy, why are you doing weird is no one of our producers was fixing rigs as microphone I was getting rid of tension to get them to look at him and fix the microphone. Okay. You distracted me from me telling you what I thought was a great store until you start over. So or just where you were. What was that guy? Again soldier boy soldier boy. So he blew me off. We had the piece of you today with a little John. It's like forty minutes away. And we made very clear we have a hard out at three fifteen. He was said it'd be there to forty five to two three o'clock rolls around three fifteen they're like a minute away. Two minutes away is pulling up late. I started the review without them and I- trashed him. I'm like, I'm done with rappers. They have no sense of time. Shame on me like for twice. He showed up in the middle of pizza review. I told it's like I've been killing it. It was nice guy. Little John's actually nice that feuds done other than that. That's really it you banned rappers from peach views, and then I reversed it when he showed up because little little John is delight. You got to do do you're okay to them. Yeah. He wasn't doing any of it. So caught a little awkward. I kept doing it. Yeah. There was a lot of that. He was he was fixated on my patriot jacket like twenty eight three because he's not land. What's stopping you from? When are you going to find Peter King? Around. All right now is that radio wrote. Right. I guess who's not guess we'll get arrested at Brady aero, right? I won't get to him. I need him on neutral ground. Sure. Sure. Do you think I'll confront? Just I'm just asking this doesn't say to attack somebody I wonder when when did that get my way? Well, you're not with them. All good. I don't want to be with them. Do hate them. Yes. All of them. Yes. You eight Jerry. Yes. You do. Yes. You really hate him. Yes. Do you want me that media which way I thought you guys are like friends? So would you do if you work with somebody? And then when things got hot they didn't have your back. Not really. Yeah. Oil of all, right? Yeah. I won't like that. He was semi loyal. He was he was footing the water loyalty, I want somebody to jump all the way I want it done with a walk through fire for him. So you wanted to his job is no I wanted him to go to the guy up top go. There was house and knock on his door and say you're making the biggest fucking mistake. You're talking is. No, no, no way way about the. Instead, he said instead waited for them to come to him. It doesn't work that way. You know that you gotta fight. You didn't is there. Anybody at the who would fight. I've thought that organization group of fighters. That's why I've gone watch their own back. Right. That's why I'm doing why. You're never going on on the yes. On any of the shows. Correct. You're you're banning me. What are you doing tomorrow? I'm doing that for you for content. You're learning a little spin. Testing. Yeah. Listen, I don't like I've gone. I've gone back gopher Joey. I'm Bryan station. I would not go on shows ever. But I think I went on you post them Bronco. No. Yeah. But I was there and all all over corrobos one of their mediocre talents of all time. Now is good. He was a Cav is like a little girl. Look if you who is Kirk with things are more exciting them around. I invite you on the show. So if you don't like Ambati, that's fine. Would you have come here if they don't let you out of the contract, right? They just switched because radio dot com is owned by Entercom. Yeah. So that was basically the handshake agree. But I've come to you with you. If you were allowed out of the calm, or would you have offered me a job the morning, we talked about that? Yeah. I don't know what the money would have been. We talked about that. Really you asked. How much you made? That said, listen, this isn't some this isn't Klay try this bar. So we can pay. Okay. All right. Well, guess I want to throw out the numbers. Yeah. Sure. How much he's making? If he wants to. I'm not you could say, well, you could say it's like half a mill where something like that. I forget. Yeah. It was a lot. Yeah. There's a lot. Now, we get we get. I know for serious they kick in. I would never pay for that. I don't blame. You. What was the start of your problems with e- for those that are unfamiliar? It's it's it's it's complicates. I was critical of the Red Sox Red Sox around the station. They didn't like that. I got the battles of Brady. I got in the battles with Brady. You suck Brady's decorating. How up on us this year? He was pissed off. Yeah. That was Reamer then me this year. And then, but when he got mad you take your pay off your debt. Well, no, I didn't say that. Again. I'm going to be bought to us. Not probably nobody buys Kirkman. Ain't nobody. Well. Well, maybe so then and then there was a couple of things politicians low local stuff, and they just they got tired of me. I got tired of them. We're done. We got divorced. We're moving on radio dot com. I thought a lot of it has to do in. This is the desk like your your. Yeah. That's all issues and whatnot at nothing and do nothing to do with. No, no, no, no, no. There's a guy this activists who is trying to take us out down. It's it's a line knew about that quick story that I thought was interesting. And you said you wanted to tell it shirt all night, you tell it because it really I liked the story. I don't like the part that you're in the hospital. But is it worth it for me to be there for the story in your mind? Yeah. That's what I thought. That's fine. Very much. So in August. I was hospitalized was suicidal thoughts. I want a mental. I don't like her down. That's bad sorry to hear that. But it was almost worth it is that even this. Say yeah. To be honest. I just felt like I was say. What what do you want them to do what you're saying nothing? I mean, of course. Yeah. Yeah. But if you. But if you. Really sorry. I mean. Yeah, I'm not going to lose. Show. Fair. So we all my man. Pass away. It's like, oh, that's thanks. Look at them. I would rather chicken bigger way. Rather you say that you really sorry. That'd be azoff or not tell you. Tell you a nice guy. Thank you appreciate. So I was so so when you check in there when you go in I I went to Winchester hostile, you know, which is so you go in there. What about really, you know Winchester, I know that sound a Winchester chesser has a hospital crash has a Haas. I'm not gonna down fine. We're not familiar with the ins and outs of the again, this is meaning zip pretty normal hospital. It's a hospital emergency room. So I go in I tell the person at the front desk. What's going on the zippy right through if you ever want to get through just tell them that you get right? So I get to the separate wing. You take shoes off you do all the stuff in your basically alone, you're alone. And you're kind of waiting for the doctor to come security guard is there he's watching you the whole he comes over and says, hey, I'm a I'm a big fan of yours. And I am twenty minutes removed from doing this in like telling my family pretty big moment now, Mike, okay? Thanks lies. Like, I gotta ask you something. So what's poor knowing like this fucking guy asks me this twenty minutes after I go into literally asks me this. I moved the needle matter. What state somebody is in the? I think it's I think it's fair to play that there. I think it's a drop in that situation said it makes a lot of sense. Said he's an asshole. But like an asshole the good way. I put you over. And that was it. But it was amazing. Like there was literally might shoelaces off just been taken off. I was just finished crying in the guys. Asking me. What porn or is that? She would have rather heard him say I'm sorry to hear that. Now, not really that's only that. That's a frog has wholesale. This is obviously we got a full bar people are at the Ivy in baulk head. So so Juve. Oh, yeah. Let's let's vile experience jovial show, vile. Same thing as jovial you kinda think you mixed up juvenile Jovi. No. I know what you've been a dial. How do you spell? Joe vile J O V, I A L jovial. Okay. Go ahead. That nailed it. It's fun in your line of business. Like, I'm not going to be nicer to you. I can't little worry. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's an interesting line of business that your people can say what they want. Yeah. I mean, I have to have a thick skin. It's fine. Is my whole life. I'll get through them. Well, good. We're all rooting for you. Yeah. You've been a huge advocate the whole time. I've been a you're on this couch. How many people word I- hands down? Yeah. Come through three days radio with very few. If any he didn't reach out Stein talking about oh when you were. Yeah. Because I don't know if that's the thing they could put you negatively over the edge in what way just oh, Dave has everything going. Jeez. You walk right in. True. Being county just yelled at them for. Yeah. But don't you think? They can't fuck wit. So we're sort of friends not but kind of sort of like because I really do sorta new worked with the hospital that was going on. But you text like a week or two late now. Neither would I know that really. Would if you did that I'd reach out one of you ever reached out to me about anything situation. Like that. Listen, I got detained last night. It's right in here. Hey, dave. You get out of jail you. Hey, that's reasonable passed out giving blood a few months ago. Yeah. There's a lot of things that have happened to me. I got stunned by beat you wouldn't nowhere to be found. Well, that's true. That's true. And I apologize for that. I don't have to. I don't expect people to reach out. And again, I didn't want to kill you. Hey, kirk. How's everything going? You heard that you're at the hospital. What you did? But you texting me you said we're still talking about. And you said you'd think you'd still wanna go then barstool, I think you said when you're not so depressed. Which is really nice. And I thought that was really nice. Yeah. Do you actually say that? I don't know. That's been. That sounds like I don't want again. It's what I just said. It's actually a nice way to do it. I need. It's one. I hire people. Are you going to be part of content if they say, yes because all right, then I'm going to be really mean to you, of course. But I have to know. That's okay. I didn't wanna again. Oh, you're in the hospital. What's happening to you? I just sold my company for this much money, and we're on this show and not what you want right somebody that may have that may put me over the edge, potentially. I am a team player. I think about everybody, but myself, it was an compassionate non reach out. You've probably already United Kurten are United in. I feel like we don't like a lot of the same people. That's true. That's definitely common enemy booms. And what's what I will say. We're all of my enemy is my friend. Yeah. He also has a very similar trait in that we are fights. Generally what you don't find too often. I don't think in the media. It doesn't matter whether the headsets on it like continues everywhere where like the ordway of the world. Frauds total rage in. That's what gets me Travis. That's what makes me. That's what makes we're gonna find out tomorrow. Hey, well headset on so be different. And I won't be there if I'm there, he's a different guy. That's what fraudulent people. I don't really care if you hate me or I've done something just be consistent and true and your hatred. Our PR team can get you on. For the second time. Speakerphone? Can you hear me? Now, we've been telling you for three years Rico. Well, it only sports. Here. Talking to me talking to you. Thank you. So bigger than sports suicide. Yeah. Four. There you go win. This thing. No, you just said we can go with this thing. Hang up on them, hang up on Rico. We can win. This thing. Rico Bosco has nothing to do with the New England Patriots by him saying we can win this thing. Shut up Rico the pages goes Super Bowl every fucking year. You're not gonna jump in Johnny come lately and take any credit for the patriots success. I won't have it. He's off the phone. We hung up on that clown. I'm so disappointed that you're playing this card that like everyone's picking gets a patriots. You're buying into this bullshit us against the world angle, which is such such crap. Radio coming to you from the IV Georgia barstool radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three. Radio. We are back big week SuperBowl week barstool continues yet again to hijack the weak storyline after storyline. We got a big show today. We're live from the Ivy in Buckhead Calvin Ridley coming up in a few minutes, we got Hines ward later in the show. We got Dave Portnoy, Tommy smokes, and Kirkman Eoghan Kirke. Brought a lot of fire yesterday. I like that he already oh, thanks so much. I really appreciate that from you. I heard that. I heard that. He's all welcomed by up today to let you know it. I want to do this. Do you want to do this? Now. Wait till we're done with Ridley because I am so pissed off at this asshole that I don't even to get into it right now. I literally in this situation. I mean, I don't even wanna get into it here. These yet. Let's you know, or no. Portnoy, you know, pres- go. I've earned that. And you're not dealing with Jerry here. I mean, whatever you save have like nineteen answers back in your face. So so if you want to go into it now, what do you what do you first of all you want to hear what you have this morning as as as today? No couldn't go on that interest. And did hear one peep about it? So it's probably Travis his fault. People listening to all the questions need to be asked. The fact that no one person told me about that. How good sign volumes sign to know. Don't don't bury the lead the lead is I worked my ass off for you today. I granted for barstool today. I have appointed myself sort of an honorary still leave for next couple. Okay. Is that reasonable fine. 'cause I earned that. Yeah. This happy. Okay. Good. Some Ryan show. You give you something to do. Get your radio dot com coming. Thank you. We're washington. And so what's the problem? So I go on there. I'm sorry. I said, thank you. You so. So I go there today. I remember you ask Adele the Portnoy, so you go to the NFL press NFL press com. It's been reported that they barstool is it very difficult to get this. So so I'm there, and I'm going to ask the question, and no one asks is an hour long press conference today would fucking Goodell. Nobody asks him bars host cities, they're asking about total pussies their games in China. What games in Mexico somebody asks about the price of food and Atlanta with fucking morons. I'm ready to go. Here we go. I'm right. Ask for my guy porn on my guys at barstool. I wanted to answer. The question was simple. I worked it out. I practice in the bathroom at practice with clothes on no clothes on. I was ready to go. Okay. And I said grow said, no, not at all. And I said to I was going to say you're trying to get a younger audience. Right. You're trying to get younger. So everyone's trying to do the most loyal young audience in America is barstool. Why do you continually turn your back on them? Dave Portnoy last night said you were dumb as a rock. They are putting their winning the PR battle. Why are you allowing this to happen? If you hand them access the game is over. That's a good question. Right right question. So I would ask them ready. Thank you. Yourself. Yes. Yes. I did. Question Kirkstall so far. I like everything I'm hearing you're singing today. Anyway. So the whole thing you feel like an asshole because you're raising your hand. Right. Ask these people by his rules. If you feel like you might as well just be like this. Please. Yeah. I mean, literally, you're like ready to go. Right. So so so the microphone is finally after forty minutes in my hand, it's cold. I can feel them ready to go. The periscope. It live at the same time. Get some reaction. The woman says, oh, by the way, what's your name? I said, oh, it's Kirkman the hand big mistake. Please you misbehave. But you saw what was mine. I didn't walk in media. They'll sit I'm Dave I Franny light. And I think the security to get into the press conference was way tougher than yours. Correct. But my defense I, but I have the thing. My name's on it. Well, then watch even ask. Well, I think she wanted. She said, okay. And then she did this the microphone Kirkman, dude. And then she paused and she said, I'll be right back. She went and walked to somebody came to somebody another NFL person. They're talking to you look at me, they come back, and they say we're gonna go to somebody else somewhere. Come right back to you. They go to Rappaport NFL stooge. Yup. Yeah. So you went ahead up program. Actually, I like him. But he's I mean, you know, he's looking. The NFL. Yeah. There's a little more to meets the eye with that guy. Go ahead. And so then the press conference has done. So I know they will Kirkman a hand, which leads you the two things I think in this situation. One is my filial with you guys correct to if you do Google Kirkman a hand. And Roger Goodell, you find me unfortunate joke, I told a few years ago that you have to hire somebody to murder Roger Goodell, which what's can be taken literally. But it was done in jest. Correct. They were could be literal. They were done. They knew I think they knew I was gonna ask a barstool question and they were done. So then like, I never give up. I keep grinding. I see Robert Kraft. I go down there. I get a call. I ask him of barstool. He kisses your ass. Yeah. I get the sound. And no one else is doing all. The other local news guys one guy says Mr. craft this is your eleven Super Bowl. What does that say about you fucking idiot? Okay. So I still don't know what this has to do with being upset about me long story short. I appreciate all this. So I see you tweet out my periscope sound with no credit to me at all. Hold on none zero. Now, here's how this goes. I can show you my. I don't wanna see your first of all to other reports said without sound that said, I love barstool, no idea. Where can I texted you? New roof us any see Paul right there. I know Paul. So Paul just came over showed it in texted it to me. I can show you it's on my phone. It doesn't say you're spending yours painting. Look, this is how I got it from Paul. There's no there's no evidence of anything. It's just a walkover clip should not read it. I were to hit crammer too. Foam in tour to the question. I I made the point about Cadel, easy, re tweet. What's that you should re tweet in my tweet about Goodell question? What's question about it? I mean, it just. There's no snow up to do more than give Kirkman credit high by his thing. I can't credit things that I don't know where they're wars. Are you got fantastic news? We can come back to this in a couple of minutes. He wants credit for things. I can't shit about him know. No, no, there's nothing. I'd love to not gonna ask the bias to go crazy there because I wouldn't say of credit I note. Do you said you text me back? You said no proof. Well, there was approved hot fries. Forget me proof. That's I just gave me credit. So I can remember me. Did you did you tell me it was from him? See there you go. You know, what you've become Goodell. Top guys you have you have sycophants. Looking at this from Mike Cornell, the micro Nellie from spit and chick. Let's is this a real this is insane. These tweets nothing like getting into bed to find out. Your ceiling has been leaking some disgusting liquid all day in your bed betting matches. Pat is completely ruined to make this night. Even better my super just came over. Apparently the kid upstairs clogged toilet earlier. It's shitting biz that leaked it bed. All over my city, all of my room. What a city what a goddamn city that is is horrible. What was that? So final Berga drop them starting on. No put in you. Don't like that. Oh boy. That will not be part of the show. I don't like it. Okay. Why it gives the wrong time? They use it. I'm only gets a bad cut. Oh that cut that cuts done. We ask Calvin Ridley about it is it because of where I got the cut from. No, I have no idea where it's from. I don't like it didn't like the cut did not like the cut. Okay. Never in the cut again. Not that couple never be played on these Airways again Kirk. You're making all sorts of weird weird facial expression guy. I something jammed in my pants. I'm Fine Gael. So we were going you get the craft thing, you're working. I didn't know where it's just just we can move on just say, thank you. That's all I didn't always from Kirk. Thank you. I'll tell you at all. Thank you say. Thank you. I didn't hear it. I mean, I am coming. I'm coming here. A free of charge. Oh, yeah. Personally because Maryland is public. Yes. I do you charge. Klay tra-. Let's go on that that rank thing show at six o'clock. Well, first of all, it's a friend. And I'm like you. He's right. He's the first seriously. How did it go? I thought it was it was it was fine boring. Well, I'll say this that went on. I went on I fall asleep because he's like watching paint dry. I mean, can I answer the question? Yes. I went on at six twenty this morning, and I get in there. And he's he's like come with four. We get going the Mexican couple of phone calls. I'm like, all right, whatever. So he's taking phone calls from around the northern part of America for different colors say how cold it was like, hey, Tom hippie, Minnesota. What's going on? Yeah. Hey, klay. It's it's minus thirty two the windshield. Can anybody beat that? Let's go to North Dakota. Come on. That's your that's his game. Oh, it's minus thirty six even call it all each gene saving that one for Super Bowl week that make the best of podcast, then I moved it over to the barstool stuff in like, you know, what he did. He did sort of the right move to avoid a fight. He's he fell on the sword. He's like I really like him. I don't know why he doesn't like me. I laid out the reasons that you said yesterday, and he kept saying, well, I'm I don't wanna fight. I don't wanna fight with them. I like that point. Like, what can you do? Right. But that's what he does. He's a great turtle'll. He's the guys we don't like he great. But but like, but that's not my fight. Really? Well, the I'm saying like, I'm sort of I have I believe you. But I said well what early? I said what you did. Then you just Bashur what see that's a different. And I said, well, if you start a fight with me, and as even not my fight if you continue to run away ice continue chasing knives at your back. All you're running. Like, I will give you. Have you talked to do the same thing? But I said to him. What about the what about the meeting up at the US open with about this? And he kept saying, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So that's all right. Yeah. Y'all that there it is. That's pretty, but then he'll go he'll get little Twitter fingers, and it'll start firing bombs on Twitter. I was just say he comes after Barr says negative about barstool on Twitter. All that all for him to be like, wow. He just doesn't like Paul's goes this ski who is like, oh, he's never said a bad word about Parcells like all right, dude. Whatever side note, we're dominating Super Bowl week. Again. The only we've the NFL no question we are. So far NFL's ask basically, they change the credential feeling them. They're touching them the satisfaction. I get for how many hours the NFL must have sat down to ensure that I didn't sneak into the Cadel press conference. They probably my face everywhere credentials, be locales this guy we name to give it a thought. This is a classic like cry movie where the cops are always one step behind. Like, we are. We're over here. They think were there. They think we're under here. I'm going to game. I'm going to that game. You can get kicked out. Going to get kicked up pretty TVs. Well, I know I guess so I had to go through that process today because I went to the press conference, and you're right. They would have been like they thought everybody was going to murder Goodell. His family check. They check. You're right. They checked it. They looked at. They looked at you. Are you Kirkman Eoghan? Yes. They looked if the skies like face off like I was gonna rip off or like. Silence of the lambs, and he puts the guy's face on go through you sit down people coming by and saying credential, thinking worse case scenario worst-case scenario. What are you guys? Ask a stupid question. That's a worst case for all the security. Did you see the name of the kid the place six? Sitting there in the kid says, I I'm Kevin Clancy. Turn to the guy next to me on my producers, and I said if they pull this fucking. He was going to say why people have compared to Adolf Hitler. In hindsight, imagine, if we did that the greatest thing of all that we can remember that all that's actually good idea. Just to send in row guys real plants. Maybe you should work. And we don't know. That's what that guy from Kimmel does. But that's actually not a bad idea. So we had that we have Sean Payton more the clown shirt. He definitely shirt, which was brilliant, absolutely brilliant in the saints with patriot fans Saint fans, I would say the saints actually got screwed as a franchise more than the patriots. Because you know, bountygate was a joke they suspended Payton for a year. So they despise Goodell. More than I do. So that was great plus last week for them. Right. That's goodell. It publicly just be like hand up. We've screwed up. Right. So we have that. We had the flight gate. I was on calls calls him. Some people hate him. Some people love him. He is perfect. He likes me in barstools so much. We sit on the joke for sure he's says, he basically will just say what he knows I wanna say. He'll be like so that Roger Goodell's an idiot. Oh. He's let's be so in full costume. It's been a great week for us. I mean, every every move we make the NFL's behind the only thing that can be better at the end of this would really be obviously patriots Super Bowl victory. Yeah. We were talking last night about imagine. Like some of this hard core Tucker Carlson crowd, and they're watching and they're getting really deepen the political scene. They cut to this next. And there's talking game with his mustache on. It's all about Roger Goodell. Somebody actually said, and I think there's a thirty percent chance at happens because I guess Trump is on the record as saying like he likes Sean, Hannity. So he starts watching Hannity at the end of Tucker Carlson, which is when I was on that that Atari line. I had that like Roger Goodell's brain like an Atari game with the ball pong. Just bouncing back that that could be used in the future as a joke. Very Trumpian joke Atari Goodell he's going to call. He started three tomato could absolutely due to a political opponent. It'll be so dumb. Yeah. That'd be nice. It's been a wild couple days. I feel like I'm even forgetting, oh, well, the NFL security and then the craft. Thank you to you silos bars. No big deal, don't worry about. I did see the clip where you tried to interject. You basically tried to become part of my checks. He saying something. And then I said something he confirmed it. That's what reporters do I got him to confirm something and right now in his mind. I don't know why no friend of the patriots. He said it Brady. Bella check Minahan Portnoy right now, you said I actually said Brady Bella check, Minahan Hernandez. Yeah. I was surprised to hear that. Yeah. So I mean that when you're asking when you're going around asking for a bouquet of roses be thrown your way to try to interject you yourself into what I would say is one of the most famous Iconex slogans. Yes, I history. I thought that was one of the most famous slogans like like even like all the way back to the revolution the Redcoats coming. The Redcoats VERA yellow check it's Brady ballot. Check nine. It is true. That's not the cut that. I. For anybody should ROY. Right line. I didn't know he was going to say a report is job again is to source out news confirmation, though before you. And by the way, I asked him, right? I asked him about barstool I thought he was going to any sending loves barstool. And I thought he was gonna go all in today. And essentially a nice way say screw Cadel. These guys should absolutely be included. I think I could tell he kinda wanted to go there is he still boys with Goodell. It's a weird. I I don't know what that I have talked to them. Off the record on the record. I've dying with them. That's not what I asked. Well, prefacing that I have. Carefree time with them. Your question come on. I have great information. Go ahead. I think they truly dislike him, but he wields so much power. That is not in their best. He can't get rid of. And it's not in their best interest to be enemies because he controls the schedule control. How how well is it worked out for them? So far being friendly with it hasn't worked out. I mean, he's he's Buddy's still wheels. A lot of power. You really does. Yeah. I could get the sense. He wanted to say this is dumb. He's a good guys. They should be the right thing to do. Because I guess they asked him essentially, I was gonna ask Adele, this is a league that you know, you're scared to find twenty five thirty year olds. I don't watch TV anymore and barstool has legion. Kirk. I think I know the answer to this. And I don't love the answer. But why once they took the microphone away? Didn't you just start screaming? I just thought I could have I guess, but you're not going to get an answer from Goodell. And that's that's how you go viral too. I guess I don't kids that we're talking. What would wait? Why do you think? Why would you think why don't you think I did it because they didn't think of it in your frayed to get put cuffs all cared about that? Did I? Cross around. But then I thought he's walking away. It's like a weird. Well, that's even in there before for this press conference over and a lot of it. All right. It's so it's so it's ninety seven frigging both fat seventy year old men. Roger Goodell has never been asked that question by an enemy. I don't think it is life the closest maybe is Rachel Nichols. And she's not. I mean, they he's never liked somebody who truly hates them like me. I keep it clean. I give real interviews. Like why why do people compare you to Hitler? Like, do you? The set within your what do you think you think they Hitler thing? Like where does where's the strongest comparison between those well they stole power both rant totalitarian regimes where they didn't allow to sent and everyone at the follow orders or you kill right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Metaphorically sure I understand. I understand. Auschwitz thing is what's the what's the comp there? Well, I would say Deflategate. Okay. Yeah. Just trying to get an answer. Right. It's not totally apples to apples. I get there's yeah. Yeah. Sure. One one there was actual death. But he runs it in a dictator shape manner where you aren't allowed to be to set. He doesn't care about the constitution. And that's for sure he doesn't care about innocent before guilty. Don't get anything. He's got bigger. Yo if you order a pizza, I sure hadn't he doesn't. You'll take taking the first bite. You're not allowed to eat. It. I've read that. Yeah. I saw that. Right. And the same way you've become like that though, you know, our a little bit icy. The now, I encourage dissent. People are allowed to come into my office and yell at me. I do it all the time. He's pretty met me. Great example. Some scary. We have a very free flowing information at barstool sports. It's one of my attributes that says I made a mistake yesterday. I was wrong. I apologize. I came in here yesterday. And I thought I think I said there's no way this goes all the way up to Goodell after being in that room today. I was totally wrong. Totally wrong. I was wrong. I apologize. I'm sorry there. I was completely. I believe. Now, this strictly him there is no ch. And it's what I said yesterday. Even if it wasn't him. He's very well aware of what it is. And it seems like just let it go. They'd let he consciously wants this to go on forever. Which is literally we've set it like a broken record. It is insane that he's just like parental. It's over just credential, and we take away their fire as long as he's in charge. We're going to have this outside every every year we come a Super Bowl. We win the Super Bowl because we're always outside. We have this little control room up there. It feels like we're in a tent fighting some sort of war up there. He was RO is great. I love it. Do you think there are any Dave looking guys you've got like shook down, and I try to get well, Dave number two is definitely on the loose right down causing all sorts. Somebody tweeted that like you should really watch out. I don't know if you've got my identity stolen when you saw that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a African American male five nen five nine well-kept treads. He's doing something wrong this weekend because he knows I'm here. No one's watching them. All is. I hear you commit a crime is vintage diehard. Yeah. Like, you create a diversion, and then you you strike somewhere. He laid low for a month. And now he's ready to strike. Yeah. He's a problem. All right, fellas. We are. There we go again. I recall. We've got Rico boss go on the line. Still hasn't apologize properly for trying to take credit for the patriots success Rico? What do you got? He don't know all the rules out. I apologize right? I do it sept-. We got through on here. Komo. From the back. He say. And I thought. Ball. It's on Rico rogue one night and just blogs, something midnight. And k Marco just ripped it off. Because he says we don't have radio callers blog anytime, they want so Rico has no access to his show. You've been kicked off the blog. I didn't know that. That's breaking news. Be age. On. He goes. Ooh. Which you don't have the steakhouse box saved anywhere else. No. Well, I haven't seen the steak bog in in the drafts. Walk. The council. Nobody can really hear you. Are you on speakerphone largest? Your job is not just yelling because other people yell. It's always like, you're underwater. Better. Yeah. We got. I've never heard three words. Unfold your. I'll talk to K Marco ultimately his decision. If he says, you got to be banned that's going to be a hard thing for me to overturn. You're the head. Keep those got. I said I'll talk to him. But I you must have done something that really got him upset of these banning you from the desk Ford. Stinking. Okay. Always thinking. All right Rico. I'll talk to K Marco involved. I feel like we've got a lot of -ccomplish there. All right, folks. We are back second hour barstool radio. We got a very special guest is war joins us on behalf of the alliance of American football. We are live from the Ivy. Good up Hines ward. The IV baby dynamic professional football league fueled by an unprecedented alliance between players fans of the game. Taking his first snap February ninth on CBS. There's eight different cities. We got I'm looking arlando Apollo's Atlanta legends. Got their own squad is world. Welcome to the show. Man. I'm glad to be here. Glad to be here. Welcome to Atlanta head up here. This is our first. Well, my first time here doing a long stint here. So back in the day. When I was thinking, I used to hang out at DIVY ho. Oh, always university Georgia from here or about an hour and twenty minutes. Maybe our twenty minutes a lot of Georgia guys represent girly and Sony Michelle hopefully, one of those guys one of them's going to get around. Yes. One of them. So continuing the great Georgia BULLDOGS pride down here. So let's talk a little bit about the alliance American, Jeff. All righty. I may be wrong. I think our owners the half owners bars, I think they're involved in that league as well. Turn it grow. Are they almost positive? Yeah. Okay. There you go pretty good. I mean, you know, I think it's great. I think fans they love the game of football. Now after the Super Bowl is almost like they can't wait to NFL season to start again. So having day alliance of American football to get started is really an opportunity league of opportunity, not only for the players for coaches. You think about all the great coaches that we have collectively as a group we got guys who coach at a high level at one in the collegiate level, the professional level, and it starts with Bill Polian. Of course as well respected in the game. Then you look at the coaches that we have you guys furrier down in Orlando. You got Mike single Terry in Memphis. You got Tim Lewis and Birmingham. Mike Marsh is out in San Diego. Dennis Erickson is in Salt Lake City. So it's just great to see that. You know, another league is kind of like, remember, oh, NFL Europe, a developmentally. Well, this is opportunity for us. They have that here in the states and give us the fans and opportunity continue to watch the game that they love and that's the game of football. Yeah. Especially after the Super Bowl over everybody's like, well, the worst part about this is now seven months. So what do you think the difference? I feel like there's been a lot of attempts at a second league. Did what what what do you think will make this one different than maybe some of the other just collectively the people the leaders that we have in charge? I mean, we got close to five hundred years of NFL experience involved in our league. And I just think the fans they want more football, and we want to build a trust without players and really it's an opportunity for them to showcase their talents. Because let's be real. I mean preseason really doesn't give you a lot of opportunities to make squad. And there's a lot of players that get cut from NFL teams because they aren't giving the opportunity if you get hurt in that first before that first preseason game chances are you're not gonna make the team because it won't allow you a chance to get out there and play. So I'm super excited and having a bunch of guys playing with a chip on their shoulders going to be exciting football. We just left trying to camp down San Antonio, man. And those guys are eager to play. I still looked like the game of football. I mean, it's still out there hitting guys make some outstanding plays. And so. I'm excited for their opportunities to showcase everyone that they can play show starts February ninth on CBS a week out the super now look on this show. We've been doing a lot over the last couple of weeks about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. I'll say. And and I would say you're one of the most iconic Steelers in recent memory, pretty second generation. Yes, it pains me because I do think of the Steelers as one of those, you know, notable bedrock franchises of the patriots one of their archrivals. So it hurts me to see basically. It's turned into a clown show. A sense. Yeah. That's a great. Culminating. Well, there's a couple of things culminated with Antonio Brown showing up wearing a purple hippopotamus suit. And we have this fall, you're mentioning this is your fence Frankie played us call. I felt so bad for the Steelers who I consider my rival. We did our radio just to memorialize death. Boy, this call this guy this I'm twenty six years old. I grew up about two hours east of Pittsburgh watched every single Steelers preseason regular season season game since the two thousand one season. I'm a die hard fan. I grew up watching to Hines wards of the league the Jerome beddis is the Troy pull them all those on defense. The Casey Hamptons, those guys and what I'm seeing right now is an absolute disgusting embarrassment, and I've put most of it on Mike Tomlin. So where were you when and Tonio Brown took off the hippopotamus? Funny story. So last night, you know, met my office hanging out at my computer. I come downstairs to get a drink the TV's on. My dad's watching this this match singer show, and I sit down just to talk to them because we talk sports a lot. And I'm telling them about the latest on Brown, and they're down to the last three mascots, and they're going to reveal one of them. And it just so happens that while him, and I are conversing about our disappointment in Antonio Brown. This purple hippopotamus off it's mask. Believe. This was for an hour. People quit all our therapy session as somebody who wore the black and gold. What are your thoughts on what's happened in this? Once proud franchise what man it is embarrassing to be honest with you. I mean, you know, that's just not the culture to still coach, you know, look at what happened with Malcolm Butler. You don't being late for a meeting and missing the Super Bowl? You know, that's the culture, and that's the patriots ways. No one guy that's bigger than a team. You coach Bela. Check says and everyone else is held accountable while just think the cultural the coach and Pittsburgh has changed a little bit. It's more about the production on the field outweighs what the overall team aspect is. And when you start to get a bunch of individuals worrying about how many catches they get how many this or how much who's making this type of money. It just sets up for disaster, fourteen fix it. Get rid of guys give you think. So well starts coach, Tom. I like you just said. I like, you just said that me, there's no way that, you know, Julian Edelman is worrying that that outfit bell Padilla check. That is not happening with Bill. It's. But it's like into a brownie was based timing them in the water almost given that let's go. But that's the thing. I think that it should have been stopped right there and Tonio you Facebook right there. You can't play the next game. You have to understand that you're not bigger than the rain sort of say. And I think that's the difference. That's why the patriots year in year out are always there because the players by into coach. So are you then off that were there because we were taping teams? I. How I. Cheaters on this all. The book's success is still there, by the way, Bill cowers on the record saying everybody does it. That's not why I can read you the cower. You don't have to listen I jumped off that bandwagon. Okay. I got nothing but respect but what the patriots done and Tom Brady. I mean to do what he's doing at the age of forty one is just remarkable. And I think you're in a year out Tom Brady has done more with less talent around him than any quarterback. I've ever known in the history. I mean, look at Ben Rothlisberger. We have all this talent. And whatever and are still can't get we're not we're missing the playoffs. So Mavericks specs Tom Brady and coast. Ballot. Check your in a year out. They just see they find a way to get it done. Even this year. They looked vulnerable. You don't think that they're going to make it they go into Kansas City and beat up a great team? So let me ask you this. Because I'm on. I believe in the patriots are banging nobody thought we could do it with the underdogs. Kirk says, that's bullshit. I say they weren't nobody gave him credit. He thought they could win. It's hard to be the underdog when you've been there all the time. They were right. The year the year you guys one was that Detroit. The first time that you guys really hit them it underdog, right? All the way. On the road the whole time one in India. Right, right. Correct. Wild game patriots were still the two seats. And by the way, the fucking eight nine we super the patriots. I'm also back to hide. I hated you for a long time because I did because it's like, oh, they taped. And it's like we win every year. Everyone takes I'm not gonna lie though when we played you guys on the championship game. We would audible and the whole defense switched to one side that we run game or the is both guys that'll because where we were brilliant like it would just, but everyone just understand how you guys knew all our audibles. All sees. He's not changed at all. He does. Call for this. You got all the tapes and ended deflate gate really didn't matter because the next game. He went out there and lit lipid teams. Are we didn't lose a game because of any spy gate or them having additional things if they'd guilty of anything guilty of arrogant because they're told not to do it. Well, here's a story. Drome beddis. We call audible Kordell Stewart during during the TV timeout drums at Cordell. Stop check into that play because they know that play because you guys were tearing drone but up in the backfield. So he got frustrated he was getting hit behind the line of scrimmage two or three yards because he kept all of her in the whole defense. Switch. It's almost like that's the patriots. Well coached prepared in. That's not Kordell Stewart. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, when we when we are our checks are like code words, you're sick. They cheated just saying, it's okay. You do. I don't think that no more. What do you do this because I wanted to go to the Super Bowl? Success is unparalleled speaks. I can't hate on. The patriots are good in Kansas. I wish for your sake that you played for the patriots. Because you could still be proud of them. You could be like this is my team. Black and gold. So I don't get jealous on that. I kinda just you know, Julian Edelman Tom Brady Bronx. I love grind, man. I just love how he just loves the game of football. And these goes out there and play at a high level, but the consistency year in a year out, man. Don't mean for Tom Brady to do it as long as he's done. It is just remarkable. What did you think of who's just drew a blank the linebacker Harrison who've tariffs James Harrison now comes into England? And he's basically been on the record like no wonder New England win. I mean, that's true. I talked to James all the time. So, hey, what is it like over there? What is what everyone they'll cut Tom Brady off? He's not acting. Right. And so when you can sit there and say, you're gonna cuss breakdown if he comes in late or whatever that's what it's all about. It's holding everybody accountable. And I think that speaks as well the Brady that he'll let because I mean, he's at the point. He clearly could be like what you grant yell at me. I think that's what makes it work. Yes. Yes. I mean 'cause Brady buys in. He's he could easily be the. The highest paid quarterback in history. But he understands the salary cap, which is if I take this then we're going to be hurting here. But I just look at what they doing and what he represents. I mean, he is the face of the league. And we'd go down to is the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. You only this guy should be in the hall of fame. Hi, yes. Should be. I mean thousand catches right? Yeah. Thousand great suppo the the best frigging blocking wide receiver in his. I don't know what criteria is. Here's the criteria. She'd be in the white laying out. You're not the final final share. No. Then make now. How much stock? Do you put like how important is that? And I know listen, I didn't play this game a hall of fame. I played when you guys watch them. Eat play. I had a smile on my face every minute every moment, I love everything about that. Love hit you want. He wants to be in. That's of course. But you don't go into the league saying, hey, I want to be a whole. I guarantee you you've seen other guys you play with even some might get in the hall of fame you I'm as good as that guy. Yeah. I've said that. It'd be great though. So sorry there I may say up here if you could pick one champion here. Would you rather Georgia when a national champion chip or another Steeler SuperBowl? What would you rather see? Ooh. That's tough. I know you know, what I wanna see Georgia win. You know, we had we had it's been a while. And like I feel like we've been robbed by Alabama close for the last two years. We're probably think they're cheating today. It's like, you know, all we hear about is Herschel Walker her show, and I are great friends. But dammit, we want to win for our so. So close we aren't close. I would like to see the the BULLDOGS and win win. But of course, you know, I'm trying to still remain the Pittsburgh Steelers. The only team to win six Super Bowl. You guys are knocking down the door. Catas-? That's the only thing you, Pittsburgh fans. I hear it's it's we want to hold onto your like at the mountain is holding on. Yeah. So. Yes. How'd you talk a lot about the culture? How how different how noticeable was it the cultural difference in years when you guys were like Super Bowl winnings? Phenomenal teams versus when you guys weren't as well the years that we won the Super Bowl. We probably weren't the most talented team. Right. But we were the most closest team. I'm we bought it. We really bought into it. Now you starting to hear guys written their houses during training camp guys? And I'd even staying in the dorm rooms, right? I would be scared to miss practice. I wouldn't even think about being late. That'd be so nervous the missed practice because we held each other count- accountable in our locker room we handled on locker room we policed our own locker room. So if you came up late we'll you had to hear about it from all veterans on the team. I think that's what this Pittsburgh Steelers relaxing, the locker room leadership within then there's no way I'm gonna let you miss a game. If that's going to be cool when I'm working just as hard as you are, right. So yeah, it's just interesting. 'cause I think like we hear about that all the time from analysts or from four players guys that never played like. Have no fucking clue actually Jit amid if there's a lot of credence to that. Or if it's just kind of it is it is. I mean, I just wouldn't imagined Rome bed is getting upset about not getting catches and just not showing up to a game ever. Just leaving the other guys out the dry thinking, I'm going to sit. Well, with me, we're in playoff hopes trying to make the playoffs at you. Just go in my that's not a set of am. I a and he got the running back bell. He's on he's seemingly taunting the team on Twitter. They love him. They love him coach. I mean when you're talking more about the Steelers off the field rather than only own the field. Just a recipe for disaster. It's embarrassing. I that's why we helped up to you. Listen, they are franchise that I've respected always expect to be there. Like, we're we become the old Cincinnati bang. Yes. Yes. It's amazing. I mean, the fact that the Cleveland Browns seemingly have their shit together. And the Steelers don't right now who who could ever think that I mean, I'd rather be a Browns fan right now than a Steelers fan thing about that. He's. We're still good. We still well. I mean, we beat you guys in the regular season. He really. Willie Cologne held a parade at my office that show healers. Healers. I'll say the talent is there is just the culture the Hines ward Steelers that I knew that celebrate regular season victory. No, we just won the Super Bowl. It's all about the rings. Yeah. About what you've done in regular, even their social media guy has to be fired. The big picture is in the game. It made me it's a baris-. And like, I say, it's a circus show where now Pittsburgh, we definitely have to change that because you know, I love juju. Yup. Schuster. I think he's a great talent. I'm looking forward to seeing his kind of role Antonio Brown's not their next year. But whatever reason players just got to come along and put all the booth crap to the side and just go out there and play football. We're not out here. I mean think about our organization we don't have cheerleaders. We don't have fancy introduction. We don't really have a mascot. We just go out there and just kick purple hippopotamus. Unfortunately, you going to get rid of them. I want you guys to be back this where it's a circle game. I could get excited, and it's not like we're playing, you know, I don't know some. I mean, I just thought I watched the patriots and Steelers play each other. I thought that was a phenomenal game came all the way down. It was just a great battle. And that's what I'm accustomed to seeing. So not even having the Steelers in the playoffs. This year was a embarrassing. No question about it. Because in Pittsburgh. I mean, it's not about what you did in the regular season. We're all about Super Bowl or nothing. And that's how it's always been. It's always been the patriots Steelers and the ravens kind of those three teams of always been about who's gonna make an AFC represent the AFC championship. And and that's just always been the case. So not seeing Pittsburgh in the mix. This year is very disappointing Hines ward, you got your shit. We'll rings on which all they bring them out during Super Bowl week, man. Yeah. Bring him out whatever you want pretty bad with this right here to Rome kinda he was he was bettering on our team. So he designed this IVA came the veteran, and I designed oh, wow. You guys actually I didn't know that actually got. Yeah. So. So every time I see to Rome, you see them. You come on his show say houses design was way, better way bigger. You gotta see it for. Real subtle. But it's nice. Tell me you look at the patriots ring. And they're the same thing, Hugh. How did they how if the patriots of that pick? How do they wear the wear them all at once? Then I don't know Brady wears around his necklace. Nuggets though. But I mean just to win the Super Bowl five times. I have an opportunity to win six. That's just unheard of. I think they can pull it off. Man. You put him right up there with Jordan and some of the greatest athletes who ever done, I think he's already there. I mean, I've said I think this game while great to win his legacies written. I mean, does it matter if it's five or six, although they matter English. Yes. Oh, yeah. Why's playing totally wants to go down as the best ever. Think he's already their weight obviously way way better than us. It was playing it is nine this. I'm this mind bought that's crazy. I didn't think that ever been done. Just because you look at buffalo. What the Buffalo Bills you go to four straight Super Bowl. Right. Right. That was a great team. But what Tom Brady's playing this night and this whole career over half his career. He's been into Super Bowl. Just doesn't even seem like a real number nine is outrageous. Ever look at those two rings. And it's just like thank God, we didn't play the play years. Because you guys beat us twice in the championship game. And it just goes to show we'd beat you guys on a regular season. But when it mattered the most when it came to playoff times, you guys is found a way to pull it out and both games in Pittsburgh. Yes. You guys celebrate on our field. And that was the most that was like a dagger in the heart. Watching you guys. Celebrate house kind of mad. I was gonna go up there and push guys room. You got talk. They're all. No, not feel which was which one was worse. So one zero four oh the year. We'd be GIO tales. We'd beat you. I was four that ended that long winning streak, right? Yes. Yes. We yes. We have guys out. So I really thought that we had the best team that those camps came where I think Rodney Harrison the return. Yeah. Yeah. The other game is the Rodney Rodney lives down the street here to member time. I see ride demand. Like man, you would have done great. If you play with us we were related, but you. That's could have more. Be happy to have him happy. I'm happy. Great battle, man. I enjoyed every moment a plan against you guys. I mean because that's what it was all about what you plan in order to be the best you have to play the best. So saying Tom Brady, he's only played that. I really stood up on the sideline. I watched him play. I want to say I was say man, let me see how good Tom Brady is. He went down on the first drive in scores yet pretty damn good. So I know that back down after that. He's the only player that I've really stood up during while. I was playing really watch what he's done. You. Are you rooting for either? Either guy either team this week for my Georgia BULLDOGS. I wanna see the Sony Michelle or Todd Gurley walkaway with the rings. He doesn't want us because. I want to see these guys the young bulldog. Get a ring man if Tom Brady does it again, man, I I gave up I'm not. I had. Okay. Man. You guys damn good? He's the best to ever play the game. I can't do that to give him props. I can't even hate on many more. Well, log we appreciate you coming on answering the question man, the alliance of American football, February did I say check it out. Check it out hides ward. You're the man, we appreciate absolutely. Barstool radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three. Radio. Good afternoon. We are back Thursday Super Bowl week. We got the squad. We've got David. We've got a hand is back in the house. We got a very special guest a longtime story longtime fan of barstool lotta history. Greg Olsen, some guests. He's my number one guy think I was saying before this. We're supposed to do pizza view with Kyle Murray and guys are late Murray. We told them we had a hard out at three forty and he was like not that late three forty five today today today, I say, no, I do not make my guy. Greg olsen. Wait. He's done things for us, very few athletes, which are you know, and always the smartest on your football takes. But you left when you were in the Super Bowl when you guys got smoked by the Broncos. He left media day early to join us, which I remember that huge props came on the comedy central show. He's been with us forever. So I do very much. Appreciate the longtime support pre shape all the way back to the kickball days when you got embarrassed. Well, you guys lost later in the kickball but glad to have. And we were going back and forth. We'll get right into it. Because the patriots I feel like like many people beating you into submission a little bit. The first time never lost to the patriots in the regular season since I've been in Carolina just for the record have you ever played them. Yeah. I mean regular season. Alright. Right. H I haven't played you in the super gray. Because you you were once you're I made it you lost to the Broncos. But they go every year. So we're not gonna go. I'm not going to save you from your right? You came into the green. I've played in more Super Bowls than you have. We're going to go that route like. Like. Tell you. Okay. I want to Wikipedia. That's a fact I have probably been more like Super Bowl par after party party. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. If you're going to do that if you're going to do the whole I ever played football. I'm not doing you've been arrested more. Thank you. Well, I don't know that true I've ever been arrested one. So they go rats on that you think you you you see there's actual odds getting arrested. There's legitimate odds. Plus one fifty five which is crazy. Whoa. That great numbers. That makes me think that's an insane. He owes something. No going five. Oh, it's on for you. For you. You said coming in when we're arguing if Brady loses the patriots lose to they become the by asked you I didn't tell you asked him that. But when you. Every time. Lebron loses a championship. You're the first one to jump his shit. Right. He's lost more than he's one fair enough. All I did was I didn't say I believe that I told you I was picking the patriots. And that Brady's the best. I'd get all that. I'm asking you. If he goes five and four and his nine trips. Does that conversation come up? I think I think when you ask that question, you're sort of saying, that's what you feel. If a fair is Jack Greg over the corner or over the course of the last five years into corner a little bit with the patriots. Because I am so pro patriots you've been forced to my anti patriots stretch. You don't there's a part of you like I hope they don't win. Because Dave's gonna bury me bury me do me. Well, we have this rivalry of sore. I have zero animosity or rivalry with the patriots every time I've played them into Carolina we've beaten, but nobody cares about you. Great job beating the jets and the doll on's at everybody. I know the record verse everybody else. Is your division? And you you own Bill Belgium. No, I don't if you've never lost. I've never one of Super Bowl. I'm not that. I don't live in fantasy land. I remember the first time we had the Super Bowl coach the first time we had it. How far you've come by the way. Oh, it's quite different. It is quite different. Although still banned by the NFL dot your your body's better. Like if you took your shirt off now verse then you look a lot better than a lot better. We went shirtless, Dan. And I with Greg Greg attractive guy. He's with his looks. And I see you by the way getting very fancy like you didn't even give me that heads. Obviously you on the FOX set your like a talking head now keep up it's hard to give you heads up on everything. Well, I'd like a heads up on that was like, oh, my friend. Greg is on on the FOX set. Maybe that's it. That's on me. Yeah. I didn't think picky to cookie cutter. No, it looks like the third winkle twin that's me. But KENDALL bad from Facebook social cookie cutter in what regard that what I say. I actually know what I'm talking about. Like what exactly do I look because I'm a white guy white guy? Blond hair Ken doll quarterback. Yeah. It's just kind of basic guys like me have to be good three years ago four years ago. We sat and you kind of like, well, I asked you a very fair question. Like, do you regret that you never on the patriots because you don't get to play the Super Bowl every year win Super Bowl? It happened that you went the next year, and you shoved it. Yeah. Yeah. Now, do you regret that you didn't get the play ever that answer was that your I'm going to give I want that exact answer run back on tape? So I go to Super Bowl next year. Yes. That was the only time how many years ago. This'll be thirteen. If I could stop breaking my foot. I think I could play for a while. Big old to be it is being old. That's fair. Next question. You're not up for man of the year this year, not not up for man. This guy lost the man of the year award more years consecutively than any human every year. He made it yet can every year bounce. So what happened was they changed the rule this year? They should call it the Olsen rule member. Like, you guys got the tuck rule and stuff they should call it. The Olshan rule. They now don't pick three finalists anymore because there was always an odd man out, and you can only be nominated three times. So I wasn't able to be nominated again this year. But obviously someone can't come back and win. So the year I went both FitzGerald and Eli manning, Larry FitzGerald manning. And I were the three they picked two winners of. That next year. I come back saying all right now, it's my chance to win and they gave it to JJ watt for saving the world that our eighty four billion times this year talking to Chris long. I think he's shoo-in. We actually have Colorado coming in after this. Now, he's a team port on a guy who wear rowdily sweatshirt. He wore it on the way. So we are actually going to become the place for losers. I don't think he's gonna win either. Even though he is a great cause in a very emotional video. We won the social vote, but maybe you can give him some advice on how great I want a little bit the social vote first time, it means nothing. There are some people that think I didn't win because I came on your show who are those people people in the NFL I could see that the NFL saints scroll sin because you lucked out. Order of the bar. I'll come on. I'm just I don't believe that. Oh, that's Dave. They'd hold a grudge against Greg say, hold a grudge against anybody who associates themselves, marshalls or they fucking eight. They do not like they don't like they don't I'm trying to think who's won an award. We'll we'll find out. Chris long is a a very clear barstools supportive. He's gonna win. He's yards. Right. That. Yeah. I would think so because what he donated all the money right check. He does good work. He's been he's been legal. You know, he checks the box. I think if it's a blow out the guy a win. But if it's close they could bring it all thirty two nominees now to honors and then they just now there's thirty one guys like me who said there and lose so better not by yourself. The other thing that I love these like, I don't mean to just like suck your dick the whole show, but another Greg Olsen fact, which I which I like we did the party, but you're not coming to rough and rowdy which is a shame. I've never been to roughing. Right. It's it's the best thing we do. It will is an electric environment at a table set big thing Greg Olsen because he came to our party last year sucked. And I was left before I saw him in the hallway or both walking out his table. What you paid for? You didn't. Ask me people are sitting at your table. Get rid of it was like a balcony wasn't even like a table. It was it was like this and they just moved into like a balcony walkway. That's tough. That wasn't great. So what do you do? I always want to guys like you. What are you doing here? Like what what just FaceTime with? I mean, obviously doing this. But besides stuff business wise. What do you like just getting your face out there for your next career? No. There's work to be done. Yeah. He's like this morning. I worked with coke at radio row, and you do three hours, and you're there, and you're promoting your on behalf of them. And you go to all the live. How do you promote coke just drink coke? Yeah. There's like a community effort that we do with them. Coca Cola bottlers and their campaigns that they have with these mini cans and for every canned built they give money to the to the community and whatnot. So they package it there's messaging so I have one today I have one for Bridgestone tomorrow event. You know? So there's a vents that go on and they package the media component with corporations and intertwine it, and what were your people or your agents where the one like you lost that because you're friends with Dave. He didn't want me to come here. I had a beg on bullshit. I'm just. He loves more than I do. Yeah. Once they get in, you know, it's like, we're not gonna ambush. I mean, I'm not even if I was I'd be like, well what happened on your teammates? But I won't say that because one of your team is supposed to do pizza view when he bailed. I know you do and I always appreciate that. So you got that today. What's your thoughts on the Super Bowl? Who do you think's gonna win? I think you guys are gonna win close. Yeah. I I heard I think I heard you say it in one ear spiel and big talks you guys typically win or lose close there. The clothes. I mean outright of when I would say the Philadelphia game with McNabb when he duped other than that all the games really still three point game. Yeah. It was. But that didn't have like the way the others were guy you the game type situation. Right. And you guys thrive in that Brady thrives your situational awareness. You guys you guys doing every single minute little situation and going over it is the difference in a lot of those games. What about the I've been beating this drum in Brady has been the still here still here? Eshelman? There's a clip when the patriots scored he's like you're too old. You're too old. So the this this belief that the patriots are underdogs this year, which I am buying into. Let me ask you this hypothetical. So the Brady one I agree with you on what's the narrative last Monday. If d Ford lines up a half a yard onside to tell us. No, no, no. It's not it's one eight zero one touchdown three eighty three picks today last intercept media says right? So it's funny. How their world beaters? There's never been anything like they are, right. The proof is in the results. But I think that loss for Kansas City is way lost than what happened in way worse than what happened in New Orleans. Really? If I'm Kansas City as disappointed as New Orleans is bad pass interference rifts miscall all game every game their shit calls. If I wake up I'm looking at four be like, dude, if you literally just. Just fall on the ground onsides and not move up until we win. We're going to the Super Bowl. That's worse to me. Yeah. But that's your own. You're mad at Tf among. Bad. I'm. It'd be mad at him. I'd be like. Just lined up on tonight's saints. It's out of their control. Right. Did this guy wants to ask something? That's a good point this good. This guy just said he wanted to have been where he was he's right lined up pressure on them. No. I think he physically. He's right. I can't argue that. Argue that it's a fair point. What he just sits accurate if you didn't want lineup where he wants what you're saying is if he was on side wouldn't be off your left tackle was yards off the ball. I mean, we engaged into semantics so we can get into alignments all night somebody on the chiefs did something wrong. So that's your own that you can turn. He's saying we're usually those if it's a pick, you know, Kellerman frigging, Donna partner, they're they're all over the world. You can't control what happens outside of your control. Right. So me controlling the wraps worrying about wraps worrying about the other team worrying about with jersey color. What hotel all that shit has no control you control, whether you line up on sides. It's a worse in my. It's a worse way to lose a trip to the Super Bowl in a bad. Call I think. Yeah. You don't have to rely on anybody else, but yourself just lineup. But I mean. I mean, this is you could go one to one going does feel stolen. All right, right. Because you you would do theoretically one the saints fan, and I was a player. Of course. I mean, you said their shit calls all the time. But that's the screen. Go back to our Super Bowl. Right. And we never made a big we weren't petitioning senators and shit the whole congressional very curious this here what you think you got screwed on second possession the game the drive. We ended up getting strip sacked. We Jericho Khatri caught the ball. They reviewed it. He caught the ball under. They didn't think there was enough evidence to overturn it a player to later. He was like a thirty yard catch. They don't overturn it. Upon replay a player to later third down. He strips AXA touchdown. What's the final score area? And it wasn't very close. They scored their touchdowns off. But you guys got dominated that game. No offense. I mean, it was seventeen ten in the fourth quarter. So it was dominated. And then they they got a touchdown on a strip sack. How many nights sleep have you lost to? No, I tell you. We can go round and round in circles. But we never were out there. The days after Vicini that calls happen every game. Right back called happens in the first quarter. No one remembers that you don't just as. I. That's not. But nobody's getting. It's just not the way it works. Right. That's what I'm saying. We we agree. The bad calls are bad calls. I think but I think like what they're doing. Now is just enough like a couple of days you get your time to vent. It's over now like enough. Do you think at all like there should be? They should look into some sort of situation or change rules wise where they can overrule you can't do that. I don't know how you cannot review pass on fear. So where does the line in the sand? You never be able to do it. And this idea about every plays reviewable a penalty. We're going to review every run play that gains ten yards and say the right guard tell I mean, you're gonna retroactively penalized team. It's it's insane. You to play devil's advocate though. I mean, look at the locations that the saints suffered even though they did everything that you're supposed to do that. But you can't make came under today's day, which when they are making. Billion sports examples of teams winning or losing based on critical human error controversial calls in one side says it wasn't once. It's happened in one hundred sports happened to the Red Sox with the home run. Right. Why don't you guys involved in like a real controversial thing in the playoffs? Or is it who was against the Yankees. Or was it Houston a couple of years this year? Oh, hip interfere or. Yeah. Yeah. There was also one always a scoreboard. But the Red Sox winning by point is there's off the. Off the series ended. There was the cardinals and the Royal a million examples of calls, and yeah. When you're on that side. But what are you gonna do it? You think you'd feel differently at all? If it was you, of course, I mean, you can tell he's still mad about a play that he openly says couldn't be review. What is Ryan? I don't mind. Make what I thought you guys what is going on with you guys. Why do you stink? We stunk. The last eight games for sure what happened we struggled. Obviously Cam got hurt. I got her we stung we just didn't play. Well, there's no way around it. We were six into one of the top teams in the league. I I know what happened. I'll tell you. What happened you picked us against the other? I put. Yes, I did. And I put you on one of my teams they could win the Super Bowl. I had like four of them. And then you lost you scored quickly in Pittsburgh about seventy straight down on that game. And then we just never recovered and we went one in seven the finish the season. Not not great. 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And then also claims he heard whispers, he didn't win the man of the year award because of his affiliation with Parcells sports. So that one at bold well for you Kyle. That's not a good sign. You is good news for you is. I hope you win. If you don't win thirty one guy share the loss with you. Yes. I had I came in third at a three I'm the only person in history of award shows when there's three nominees the other two both get to accept it. And you've got to sit in the audience alone. I mean, I've never heard of that before three I. It's actually like meet it would hammer is on people did have a camp. Do they have can is it the three boxes like? Yeah. Very goes face. They do that like fake. You didn't win an Oscar. And you're like proud of everybody. I always Joey chip Yanni. We talked about that the daytime TV awards. Yeah. You gotta practice. You're like you're not so disappointed that you didn't get your kind of happy for the guy that one face who do you who do you think the favorite? I know who I think the favorite is who do you think favorite is? I mean, it's hard to tell with again. There's no finalists thirty two guys. That are all doing great stuff. All across the league, you have older guy one of your teammates and Julius peppers guy. Guys had an unbelievable clear on the field. Obviously did a ton of stuff a lot of hurricane. Really simply. They already did the hurricane thing though last year with JJ that Bach forty. Yeah. Yeah. The case keep having about why we knew Greg had no chance. So no chance no chance you when they when they left me out, and I came in third out of three in Houston where we in Houston. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Two years ago. And then I thought for sure if that hurricane doesn't hit I got that in the back. You know, what I mean, it's just you can look out there. Raise mother nature's on new almost were were victimized as much as the people who are part of that in a weird way, depending on depending on how you look at it, Greg. He's talking. I'm not. That would be fine. Yeah. Olsen thinks he's no different than hurricane. Ron though. Also. A weird note that Frank you just told me so his name's Luke Wilson. Right. Luke Wilson tight titan. Who's he played for you guys got the tighter market, right? So he was here on the radio earlier with damp PMT, Dan, PF t in. What was it? What did he say? So they were talking about something regarding we'd and Goodell. So I guess Luke Wilson said his buddies wanted him to ask Adele, if he smokes weed, and he mentioned that on the show. And then by the time, he got off this stage at the Ivy downstairs was a guy from the league here to drug test them that but it would come on. Yeah. It wouldn't be. But still why would you show up here to do that I've randomly I've had in other cities. I mean, that's a huge incidence. I mean, how did they know? He's here did it in the bathroom at the Ivy. Meanwhile, barstools Ivy, but it's also, you know, are they call it the street drugs. Yeah. The but that does start here, exactly. That's not till April. And so I mean that would have to be a random PD test. We get throughout the year. You only reached drug one time. Once you check that box you're done until the next league year. We are as you said by though weirdly, like a tight end like why I have no idea how that happens. It's like hockey players and tight ends. We're real. Yes, we're relatable or debatable. Where relatable is that? I don't know. I'm going with that. I don't know. Maybe that's what you say. So yeah. But I will say if tile doesn't win. I I mean, you have much greater odds than when you were there because it's three with you. He still there's no finalists even though you had JJ we will become like a madman curse of sorts like a Sports Illustrated purse a Walter Payton man of the year curse. One. The by the way, I don't want this probably you can look at both ways. He also on the social vote you also on the social vote. So I don't think anyone that's ever won. The social vote has won the actual ward eight doesn't so what's the point to the social vote. I saw your video they get moved in Brazilian tweets around the program, and it goes crazy viral, and it gets great recognition for them. That's a lot of it under nationwide. I mean, they're giving us more money for for charity. So it's it's a cool. Great for the charity. The charities are the ones who Mack who max out. But if you want to win you gotta do a shitty social job. Yeah. It seems. So you got to like, well JJ was certainly social by the way, I think Chris long is the favourite. That's what he's done over the last couple of years. And I generally just go with what I hear in the news. So Chris was a national story. I was going on. That's good though to just rely on like snippets of national news coverage to form that's good way to form opinions that works out. I didn't say that's how I formed opinions. That's your information that got it. That's great. Well, I don't know if you're familiar, I run a international website. So I see a lot of news. Not just pulling snip. Okay. You're like in the gym without weights. Doing what you do. I read I'm very fluent in what's going on the world international. Are we pretty frigging internet, are you? Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying the things that you hear about tens of translate to who wins fair enough into that like all thirty two nominees in their market there the nominee for that team. They're getting all the pub in that market. So, you know, going off there is a national component. There's a wreck. Let's be honest. Let's call it. What it is. There's a PA. Popular name component to this entire thing. Right. Like, we all live in real the real world, get it. It's just part of the deal. You don't think you're popular not as popular as Eli manning, and Larry FitzGerald? Yeah. Those is prompted Jane I've lost Larry FitzGerald, JJ watt and ally manning. Manning to forge is football's. How is that? A man of the year goes scrub in the back sign a football. I mean, Eli man that that you also the Manning's you didn't lose to ally. That's an inside the Manning's twice now Super Bowl and man of the year. Manning's are all over my life. You didn't really lose the pate. We lost the DD Payton was Peyton was you lost it, and we have another. We got two guys by the way sitting on here who are supposed to be on very good teams in both miss the playoffs. I what I mean. People. Will you guys saying what's a quarterback change every by the way past this long Kirk cousins, you know, what his downfall was? He sued us for the t shirt. How do you like you start suing us direct relationship to career going down the hill rebuttal? That's that's what you have to do as a as a broadcaster. Exactly rebuttal facilitate conversation. Go. No, I think talking about our season. Yeah. More so. I want to hear more about that. We're not really concerned about your season. And here's contract. Let's talk about him soup. Barstool fascinating. Yeah. No. That's that's an interesting point. Probably not a good play. I guess you like that was the sleigh. You like it was when he came out with the Redskins. And he brought it with them. We try wasn't out. Do you like that? It was it was like you like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't really go anywhere without hearing that at this point, you know, whenever he goes somewhere people say that to him but suing over it. I mean, do you could have been like, hey, I'm boys with those guys. Like, I didn't know about the time true fair. I mean, I definitely would step in now for you. Absolutely. I appreciate that. And what if he call back into action would you play games? Hopefully, we always move, right? We totally do that. I never understand athletes you guys. And if you donate for charity, there's all different varies. You guys are the wealthiest of the wealthy. You it makes so much money. Makes you wanna puke I worked twice as hard on making a tenth of what you guys make is disgusting. And then you have guys like Dave poor, Dave, but you have guys who want like cuts of merch. It's like we can like thirty to forty grand max, like what why are you wasting your time when you're making millions will I never understand big big did the big country shirts a couple of years ago and raise a ton of money for the children's hospital that we're support yet. And we will do that. Like, you did it with the what? We're happy to do it. Like, we don't necessarily do it. Like, oh, we're trying to take. It's like, I would never think an athlete necessarily tears. So. I think it's tough. I think for something innocent and fun like that to kinda capture that initial momentum. And kinda the energy around like a fun. I don't like viral kind of deal like that. I get but there is sort of the idea where you have to protect your own rights. You can't just let people just haphazardly just have open season on your name and your picture in your face. And and a lot of guys just have teams right like their team goes out, and it's an air Dom tech to your best interest. So it's not necessarily always the player. A lot of these players. I know I don't know anything like every teacher came on their table. Like, I would love to have said something cool. And you guys you you might have. But you ban us from talking about it. We all know that. That's and it would sell. Hey billion of if we did this unnamed thing that we'll talk about allusively and sat on a cat. It wouldn't literally blow up the internet. We're not gonna talk about it. We're not gonna talk about what we're talking about. But I dream of a day when I can talk about it one day that day, you know, what we're talking about. No, I don't I talk later. We're talking about I'll tell you to talk about it. You definitely know my guess is what we're talking about. But as of like you to your Notre Dame guy, you're Miami guy Catholic source of convict Notre Dame for a short time. How how much older than him just a little I came out and I got drafted seven eleven for. So so never in college. Now gonna cut it. Cut it. I was at Notre Dame for like three months. Why did you leave southbound? It was great. It was awesome. A little different vibe. Yes. Yes, fine. It was good. Who was your coach, Charlie? Okay. What are your both your thoughts? Oh, you know. I was gonna say you don't loves us. The NFL's much NFL doesn't like us the players association. Now, this us loves us. Like, the tomorrow's Smith right doesn't. They big got damore biggest barstool guy there as the works. Your enemy's enemy is my friend. Exactly. So what do you think have you been following? What's happening this week? I have I saw your charades. I saw. So they checked my ear. Yeah. So we got day like put my thing. Like, I was trying to get that's his fault. Fault. My eyes scan to get into media. That's what they do. Now. They've told me so we got kicked out. They don't issue us credentials because deflate gate, so both PF tea, and I got the scored it out. I mean, the NFL wants to prosecute like the local cops had to be like you gotta serious like this is a joke. Right. But they have said Mercedes Benz if I step in the stadium they're going to arrest me I plan on going to the game. And there's you can go to the game. They can't stop you. Go into the game. Yes. They can't. They have what grounds trespass I heard that. They literally had them or Sadi's Benz say he's been stadium. The rep from say he's Benz came out said you're banned from going there or you're gonna go. Oh, yeah. But that's been disguised you. I haven't decided yet. We can't talk about that. There's literal odds that to get worse says it's plus if I go to the game plus one fifty five I get arrested. That's why are we low like I thought it'd be like plus a thousand that's basically even money saying if I go I'm getting. If you go dressed as you you'll be outed by the first quarter fan people will want you to get arrested like people listening right now. And I think like stool lease will be yelling Figari NFL would literally go. Hey, you come. You're arrested for watching the game. That's what you just told me. So yeah, I guess that's crazy. Right. Yeah. I think stool is want you to get arrested because I think it'd be hilarious for everyone. But you not patriot fans. This is a big day. You think they need you at the game? Yeah. They don't need me. But they want me there. What you should do is you should ask craft if you could sit in his box. I don't think he'd do it. He loves me. I don't think he'd do it. I do it is that would be such a fuck you to get Dell. I don't know. I don't know that he'd have the balls to do it. I mean, it would be the number one like f you Roger Goodell thing they they may fight the box hate and had the shirt on. Right. Y'all. You saw that. Oh, yeah. That was big. Yeah. I mean, the saints the saints and the patriots have always been kind of, you know, a lot allies in their hatred Cadel because as much as I say he's screwed Brady and the patriots. I mean, he kind of ruined the saints for a while. They're suspended for a whole year over bountygate, which you guys probably can speak to more of me seems like something that probably a lot of teams doing. It wasn't really that. Big of it. I had never punishment was fair for that. I think again, I think they sometimes go stream of to nip it in the bud. The penalty needs to be so over the over the top harsh that the thought of someone else doing it again, it puts that flame out instantly. I think it's on purpose. I think Dell is way smarter than you think. Oh, I think he's a rock. I don't think you. All right. If he's so smart. Why does it they give us credentials because then we go away. We're not problem anymore. I think that there is an element to the NFL where a feud with you is good. So you think he's that smart? I think Adele is way smarter and craftier and has much better sense than you think he does. So you think in my dealings with him? I've always come away saying I think he has a good grip on what's going on. I think he's a lot higher up than you. Do. I think you're easily being old. I don't think he has that type of watch time. Have you spent personally with Goodell zero? Who? Boys. I hate to do this. We're up against a hard break. We got a lot of guests to get out of here. I just got run out on that after he has no defense. I thought that that was how rude off Greg. Also, we appreciate you guys coming on. Title has to leave yet. We have those you're sticking that he stayed until like he's hanging. I wanted to roll bar still wrote barstool hat is money. I'm not gonna give it to you. If you don't wear you never wear anything we need that you'll wear it. We'll get it for it is it here. No. No. You're having the one on Myrtle could have this book. Hi, guys, thanks combined. You're ready to Atlanta's spots at all week long by good friends at Bud Light. Thanks into keep drinking them all week long. We'll be back. Thank you. All right. We are back big show for barstool radio. Also big day for Kirk Minahan this morning, confronted Roger Goodell. First of all how that come about. So I was staying the upstate the same hotel to Dell staying at. I guess I didn't know that. So if my run this morning went down on the escalator Harto, what did you go for a run every morning. Yeah. I do Porto qualify does not qualify through it in. But go ahead. Well, it's it's I think it's pertinent to the store and runs we get it stays shape. Tweets are on the break me like what Kirk speak. We didn't tune into here all reluctant, relax. You are so governed by Twitter. I mean, do you care? I just fuck off doing you're doing fine. Did you ask you for your approval Herschel, a really good question? Which would have Angela Oliver luck question about the sun in the Super Bowl? I was one of the questions brilliant one of the best questions this story run. Boy that was a good one. I didn't your Herschel one was okay. What was the Herschel one? I don't even remember athletes. Maybe I go ahead. Brad. Mount rush- luck. One was great hypothetical for run. I worked in my absolute. And then I and then I went down the escalator, and I see Goodell by himself, and it's off putting because you expect him to be surrounded by people. Totally right. So I have a quick moment in like a barracuda. I get my periscope on go right at him. And I say to him, you know, whatever Mr. Goodell, and he turns he looks at me. I said they did a chance to ask. The press conference today trouble right away. I'm walking at him, obviously, covered in sweat after my run, and I have the phone out like this. So I think you he knew that there was some trouble. So maybe I didn't handle that. Well, I don't know. So I say, I say, I say Roger, you know, didn't get a chance you asked this question. He's like I'm done doing that. Now, my first thought is this is a guy who claims that he's okay L available all the time. So making thirty million dollars forty is forty million dollars a year. So so I go up there. And he's like, I don't wanna talk. I wanna talk. And I said, I just wanna ask you one question about Barcelos said, hey, I don't want to talk, and he just kind of good that to me that looked like a vicious assault. I could tell you this. I'm not lying to you. So they'll hit me. The guy goes social cycle five days a week. I been pissing blood all day. I've been shitting blood all day. My right side is completely numb. And I already have memory loss. Have you seen a doctor? I may have I don't remember there's so illegally illegally. There's a lot of things, and obviously your family's been involved in this now, and I appreciate that your dad reaching out, and helping me it's nice to have legal representation. Well, he's there for the pro. I know that way, you know, careful what you wish for but anyway, well, anyway, so he'll call the whole thing happens you're in for a longer. So we're making our way together. He and I and I have the thing I suck at periscope. So it's like all over the place. So we get to the end which we're still on the public hotel. I'm a man he's a man I'm just asking questions and he walked into the breakfast thing. And he's like you can't come in here. You know? And I said my foot over the line security comes. Flying in. And they're like you did not go in there. And I put the camera up to the woman asks for politics. She did. But I mean, I don't think he's going to any other conclusion it felt to me remember when they cut Mel Gibson's ribs at the end of Braveheart when they yes, I know what that what happened. I got attacked by the way, can I could I in the last couple of days could I do more for you guys? Well, I actually said that I expected to our victory lap from you today on the show down by fuck. I like being Larry King every time. There's a lot of guests. Right. There's a lot of guests while you're asking for praise. No think it's only fair that I get credit for giving you credit after you demanded credit. I made it very clear on this guy. This is day. Not. No, no, no, no. I said before her Minahan, which is exactly what what do you? What tom. I was not gonna agree with in green. Which is what he does. I know typically mandate butt heads right there. I agree with you. It's a rare moment where you are. Are you on this? I mean, the last couple of days content king Kirke content is I said today. I mean what else can I do. So you're applying for a job. I feel like I mean, I'm just trying to help them here for a couple of days is trying to help out. I would add Roger Goodell. I gave you the credit which you would never do. I went face to face with the guy. I never do happen. Yeah. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you told me you were pushing. Yeah. A little professional work was a little Chatel courtesy because I do like the Kirk the question to ask that spot curious I've actually curious to you to loosen up. How do you feel about Peyton wearing the barstool sports clowns shirt to mock you? I think you're wrong because I think he is right. He would have been full asshole. What you want? That's the other thing. He wasn't exactly not asshole to you. I thought about doing afterwards. I was thinking of dog that ain't gonna like good. I'm just saying I want to do the, hey, Mr Commissioner, I have a friend of mine who really loves football. He's a really big fan of your's is a really good guy. He's been a fan of yours from the start butter up. It's okay. If we FaceTime, you just say Hello to them. There was going to be you. Yeah. But he'd never do that. If you kiss his ass. I think it's the kind of guy if you suck up to them you kinda he'll throw a little treat. I recognize you. I thought you're on his enemy. Good point. You have a face wet was like like you hard running right 'cause. I don't trust you face your trust me. No. Like, if you just propped up, I wouldn't ever think you're trying to be nice. If you just approach with the periscope, right Tommy's is true rigs. I mean look at his face. I don't think it gets beatable arguing, but this is my job. Well, so like, hey, I got a friend who you're not that. Oh, I see what you're saying. You're like I'm about to ambush, but really knows you're not a friend. But you have that distinct vibe about you that you don't come in peace. Yeah. But like what it's amazing to me that this guy just walks around in the rest of the media such a bunch of pussies that they'll ever ask him any questions. A once a year we can ask questions for an hour. Yes. He could tell walking around the Mary marquee, and your who had why they don't want to end up on outpost in Buckhead banned from life. That's that. They'd be like, hey, Mr Commissioner, you know, what the games in Mexico asked you awesome. Will they be is awesome this year? But you say kinda man or woman asked that quite you say that I've seen you get down needs to suck. Tom Brady's dick before with because first of all there was very little shaft. There was there was enough. But the real point is sometimes when you work for the man you have to fall there. Nobody these stations is so petrified of Goodell. They don't want to be. They don't want to be us. They don't wanna be it works for us. But it may not work for them. I guess, but I I mean, I guess I don't know. But anyway, I saw them maybe some people wouldn't attack. I've attacked put my life on the line. Yes. I'm serious injury. Yeah. I do. Listen. I appreciate it. I'm surprised you didn't the next level would have been two full wrap here. Like, you know, I thought you're going to come in a swing. Yeah. Actually done that. Let's say that slinging my rip just like, oh you like you see the players after the game. Yeah. Kind of like that. But I appreciate it. You've been making great content. Dave what else has the Kirkman ahead? Four been doing. What else am I supposed to do? I don't know laurels. No, you you went for run. And you did a thirty second person. Have you done that was run number one by second runway anymore? Interviews. So they Nord you I had I had a confrontation of some people guy. But it was fine. I it's it's difficult for me somebody who's kind of going through it. I'm going through to see my old show here while I'm by. I'm totally by myself like I'm eating pizza by myself or a loser. I mean, this is your love you. I'd say, you're alone. You're gonna lose. Well, we welcome with open arms here, but hung out with you guys. Look like loners Tommy I said he saw you at Pinero the show itself. Say Hello to me. No. I said Hello. I got on the back lot. I thought oh shit. We're gonna have to talk for a couple of minutes offer to buy break though. Well, I Dave card saying I wasn't like I saw them again, by the way, you didn't see me. I don't think and I kind of I did the air. Yeah. You were there again today. Oh, yeah. So it was I hit do that. When I I really like them. But it's like, you know, the work person, if someone, you know, if you know, well, we haven't made that connection I like you. But I mean, I don't wanna make small talk with five minutes to talk about, you know, nothing right. Most our heard it's cold and Chicago, that's that would be a conversation. People are up tomorrow, right? Is the way in is actually later today. We're going to that was good segue. We already Moshe and what's his face mapra map round. And then I'll Brown if you wanted to space right before the fight. It's not a good sign. No what's his face. I mardi Bush, and then we have a chef burst the internet guy. So those way they'll be happening tonight at the IB after tomorrow's the last day at the Ivy, and then you know, you enjoy the weekend, you're going home. I'm going home. I won't be here. Tomorrow. Yeah. Well, I will be roughing rowdy calling the fights tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. I worked twenty four seven sort of an inspiration to look caravans just came out because he has a crush on you know, there. He is. Yeah, we as her Swiss Kirk Cameron's as Kirk. I wanna see Kirk. Oh, I find him. So lacking in charisma, and then tell it's just there's an emptiness in those is looking to see what I'm saying. He doesn't know your thoughts on this is your so close that you know, there's no there's not a lot of intelligence. They almost. They almost they almost hit each other there. So he you know, that kirks roasting. You're right now. Yeah. Oh, he said you're not well, so he took a struggle with depression suicide show shots. I heard Kirk said that I was mediocre which was a compliment because Kirk Cates everyone. So if he says, you're mediocre that means you're doing approving it so far here with this y y you microphone, I don't know. I was just handed. Georgia Georgia of a show to do your show. I mean, people taking pictures. Okay. You're okay to David price has a new number. Now is that right? After the podcast that you've been on three times three times. Son of a bitch on section ten shut. The fuck up. Podcast is just say, no charity, not really with the people when you're on the restricted side of the fence. It's a fair point fair. I have a good show guys. Thank you Jared. Thank you. So all right. We got Nate Boyer coming on after the break. Yup. That was other guys actually done something. What screen bright, right? Oh, yeah. Sure. He's physically the same. As me today. My fucking rip you think he's gone through something. Actually, you know, you're you're just a radio one got assault today by guy goes to social cycle five days a week. I actually appreciate that. Because I don't like him. I do. I appreciate credit to you. Is it soul cycle more harder than running cross fits the worst? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got hooked by. It's like also I don't like I've heard that story. I got you big time cocky. All right. It's just gets. We got neighbouring coming up. Talking about cooking. Probably get time to go to break, man. Coming to you from the IV. Georgia says barstool radio's coverage of Super Bowl fifty three. Barstool radio Friday afternoon of Super Bowl week. We are at the Ivy, and it is a packed fucking house. It here. Lauda patriots gear. I see a lot of Red Sox hats. I see a lot of Boston in. Here's what I see. There's a shit ton of Boston here. That's how we travel. It's our week vacation. We get to see our friends our family, everything like that. It's the annual patriots in the Super Bowl. I don't like what's going on with this microphone, but it is the annual patriots in the SuperBowl week your microphone seems fucked up. It's fucking struggling with it. No. He does when I touch it moves away and people going to hear me, I've never seen anyone struggle with the Magherafelt more, except maybe your father, which I fixed. It was the headset. My normal headset was broken they are strict with the microphones all week. It's been like adjusted adjusted adjusted now it's been pretty it. So now, I'm excited Fridays. When you start feeling the Super Bowl little bit start smelling it a little bit get learns low. He'll get nerves. Yeah. I get healthy nurse. I get healthy nerves. It's like, okay games gonna come soon. Right. And we have rough around. I mean, I I look like some sort of like priest like patriot priest of yes. 'cause I'm in my rough and rowdy announcing gear now. And then I'm wearing this. I break out for big games. So I saved my patriot medallion I got it the first year after we won the Super Bowl again. It's Seattle and I only wear it in playoff situation. So it's getting closer. I'm feeling the momentum people start arriving now. So feels like the Super Bowl it starts to get serious. I mean, there's two weeks of build up. There's a lot of BS. There's a lot of media. A lot of all that crap. Now, it's getting fucking serious. It's days out. It's real to how we feel about the whole week who've been here all week barstool puts a shit ton into this. We got a huge crowds now at this point. Yeah, good week. We we made a lot of headlines this week. There's a lot to come. Obviously. Are you going to get into the game? That's one of the big questions. It's like we'll Brady with the MVP while I get arrested at the game. I will be at the game. I don't think I'll be arrested. But you know, we'll grow our car. And just see what happens let the let the cards has. There been any contact at all with anyone no zero contact, you just know your band, but you're going well as I've said the guy from Mercedes-Benz when I got taken out of media day, he came down to holding areas. Like, I represent Mercedes Benz. If you go to the game at Mercedes-Benz, we're going to arrest. It was pretty black and white. Yeah. Now that sounds pretty straightforward. You're going to get arrested. Yep. Listen every Super Bowl needs a villain a guy dressed in all black. That's going to be me. I like being the bad. Boy, I like it gives me some street cred. So I will be at the game. I won't like not being able to see if see if I'm in jail. So we'll see will you be using discuss. Undecided. If I get really fucked up on Saturday night. I don't see myself waking up to get into skies on Sunday. So it depends. What I do. It. Only depends. How you feel Sunday morning. Oh, you got you. And I mean, the monster hits club only the monster hits. Only people love it people are huge fans of the show and like everyone wants in. So as the leader and founder of that. I have to be there. I could just be high the rest of this week because everyone everyone's like, hey, can't get in the Mazar. It's only club. Well, I guess you do a monster hit I have to do monster hit. So that also complained factor in disguise or not huge night for the club last night big night. I mean, people are joining the left and fuck it right to fun club. Is it looked like I I was stoned out of my mind. I was like a Mars because you take big hits. And it's like, oh, I'm out. I kept taking him. So big night was trying to say it was it's more exclusive that people that's just a lights strung disagree. That's just a lot. If you look at. Senator people that have applied, but accept it. It's not even close anybody can get in the malls or hits only club. If you can take a monster hit that's the whole of fun club. Yeah. That's it. So rough and rowdy aren't are seven tonight huge for that you excited for that. A lot of people like how do I get in? You know, I love all these people out there. But you guys just can't get in. It's like it's like do we let you in or do we let in like saquon Barkley? So the answer is unfortunately saquon Barkley, it's a small venue. We don't have a lot of tickets. The good news is they're shown it here. So you can watch it here. It's going to be on at the Ivy. So don't pull me don't fuck in me days. Get yourself yourself. The Super Bowl is a very exclusive event. What do you want us to do? Hey, play portals. You can't come in. Because this love in a Mets Turks getting in. That's not happening. It's just not happening. What are some of the biggest guests we have coming through? Now. Oh, why no bitch Bisky is going to be. I mean, we have a good list that we're friendly. So I know Trubisky is going to be there. I think Greg Olsen is going to try to stop by some of the patriot. I think Bob one of the crafts. It's going to be a who's who Scott Zolak on the call. Going to be on one of the calls, by the way, I'm outta rolled up. My brain's going faster than my mouth. I gotta get it back back into calibration before the call. It's a huge call what four hours basically, four hours, just knowing. How many fights do we have twenty eight thirty oh the big night of fights. So way ends last night way ends make you feel any differently about any. We've had building up to this all the pressure in the world is on chef because he's fighting the guy half the size. You know top. It makes it you either. He has to fucking dominate the guy or it's kind of you know, it doesn't look right. Right. Great. You were saying last night that you know, chef loses. Well, chef loses. He's no longer a human being, right? He ceases to exist as human more to lose anybody at any roughing around he's ever had more to lose possibly than any human who's ever entered any sort of athletic competition since the beginning of time, which makes the other guy feel like a little bit better of because he's coming in like nothing. Fucking news whatsoever is going up against chef chef anything he starts to get off balance or anything like that. He's going to be shaking in his boots a little bit. We do have meant. He's good job on the show later. Smitty, obviously was he fought fucking chef interrupted rowdy. So when he's a little bit about it. But it's a big fight. I think Matt Brown was is he still the heavy favorite. Other. So so we've got map Brown mardi much money motions, obviously backstage as well. I think he's starting to get to that point where stomachs churn and he's get all nervous stomachs churn. I'm getting going eating it's because we had so much Chinese food last night. Again, the H O C like Chinese food habits with chose now. I'm just straight out role. And now my stomach's like where are you Barbara Bush before we're just sitting down? He's like, what time do you think I should show up tonight just has really zero clue about anything. That's not surprising. Yeah. Not to switch subjects, but I gotta get something off my chest real quick and Boston people may see Kyrie Irving shirt right there. I am. So fucking sick of Kyrie Irving in the antics. Sees you know, if they're gonna resign with Boston, you're saying New York runs. Good organization. You may go to the Lakers. Kyrie Irving needs to shut the fuck up. I am. So sick of. I know are you sick of this guy? What do you do this? Yeah. I don't this might not work. He's if kyri Irving goes to the Lakers on their to hire somebody to kneecap them, I said that the other day, but that's that's like a joke. If anyone uses that against I saw you tweeted it. But then you also tweeted that's just a joke. Kyrie Irving is. I haven't started to hate a Boston athlete like Kyrie Irving in a long time. This guy just shut your fucking mouth. He's mad that they played better without them. Because maybe everyone fucking hates you because you trash everybody every two seconds get this guy. You know, this guy reminds me of what Bron James is it just the Lakers or what if you goes like the Dicks? I'm not going to like him. No matter what. But if he goes to the Lakers character yet. Yeah. Yep. He goes LeBron drink wine in does all this crazy stuff. But that would give you a lot of heat and fire at passion to fucking despise that team over to you. I'm more mad at this microphone right now. I'll tell you this the factum talking about Kyrie Irving right now during Super Bowl week when I'm in my patriot here one I'm going to rough and rowdy in. I have to lead the show with. Hey, kyri shut the fuck up that should tell you what. Kyrie's like, he's. He's pushing me a little bit too far. What do we think he's actually going to do? I think he's out. I want him out get this fucking guy out of here. We'll be causing these kinds of problems right now. Why would you wanna bet is wearing a Kyrie's shirt? I don't know why. He's like fuck him. And he's got the shirt. Yeah. Did you not pack any other shirts? So this is a tough time to where the kyri jersey will be honest. I got the Tom go fucking sweater under this, but I had to wear the Kyrenia social a little bit support. That's what it is. It is what it is. It is tough. Like, a Boston Celtics shirt is a great shirt this weekend. You gotta go bird or Russell or anybody kyri right now because Kyrie's a mother fucker Antonio Brown jersey like a month ago. Oh, yeah. Not a good look and for all you Steeler fans listing. I'm doing my best to try to make your program. Not a joke anymore. We had Hines ward on the program. So you're welcome. Pittsburgh. I'm doing my best to restore dignity to that. Once proud city. I can't imagine many Steelers fans are here at all. I don't think we're talking to steal a fancy right now. What made the trip to Atlanta? Well, we are on the radio. Right. Right. Right. So proud, we're not just reaction. And this would be a lot of work Tom for like to do this production for like three about. Would it be fair? We probably wouldn't be worth of what we're able to read the setting it feels like we're almost only doing it out. But we're doing it to to really facets people. That's it. Well, that guy say, I don't know. I get distracted this one. Like, we said it's hot it's hot audience. They're bussing. We got some guests. We guess come into later. We got Chris Johnson Marquette king. Make sure you ask Chris Johnson about when he stiffed me on a pizza. I got that long. You just didn't show up. We're doing a little civic. You want us to say, no, I didn't you show up to you know, you didn't show up to you know, Dave was there. Dave, wastes time tape doesn't like you. What he says? No, I don't I don't know what you're talking about. I think checkmate for him. You like him more or less than soldier? Boy. I dunno. Chris johnson. I wanna know Johnson slap in the face. Disrespectful. Well soldier boy was so fucked up on whatever drugs he was on. I didn't hold it against them. Like soldier boy went in. It did some drugs that probably normal people don't have access to and when I saw him. It was very obvious. He was not on this planet. So it wasn't like a direct shot at me. It's like he left earth. Yeah. You can't be out of someone who just detaches reality soldier boy is gonna soldier. That's like what he does. He's not like a nine to five account where you expect normal human being. No, it's almost like, do you think anybody else can soldier boy you or can only soldier boy soldier boy rappers can always do that. Because it's like we're waiting for little John l I l little John little John Lill job. Yeah. What we're waiting for him the other day? And I'm like, Frankie these guys miss their own concerts. They miss planes. They missed like you can't control rapper. So to think we're going to get like a punctual rapper for pizza review. I'm not an idiot. That's why we're not going to happen. And it did it has not. It's been a tough one. All right. We are back. It's myself. Dave four time. He smokes live from the Ivy in Buckhead Friday afternoon before Super Bowl things are starting to heat up. We have a quick update. Okay. I have now seen my second third and fourth ram fan. Look here right now three there's three ram fans. Horner those second third or four ramps. Where are you guys from? Where dc? I don't know if they're so they're from DC, but they root for the Rams that makes no sense. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty clear that LA doesn't have a strong fan base for anything. But especially the Rams are thinking Margaret from why do you root for the Rams in the seventies? When they have the old. What is that voice? Is that a real they can't be? Because my parents were in the seventies. That way what has happened to DC after when they moved to St Louis. All right. That's a legitimate reason. Like, he's from Texas. Is it? We don't yet with the patriots assay. Patriots. I think it doesn't really make. So there's a second third fourth, by the way this pillow. It's tackle. I mean, it says good a picture as I can take of myself. You look fierce. Yeah. I look awesome. Like that is that's a I can't get a picture on the internet to look like that. And they got it on the pillow. I feel like that's the picture. Maybe that Goodell when he's in. This keeps them up. How does that water? So. Other news today with Colin Murray interview, he's been all over the media looking great. Well, I did a pizza review with them. And I'll tell you what he was a barrel. Left's he was all peaches. I would say I may be gum declare. What sport he was going to play? Wow. He was awful on. Which is he wasn't great on is any wasn't good on Patrick didn't seem like he really wanna talk to the media. I did something with them. I don't want to keep away the whole review, but we're in there. He looks at me. He goes, hey, your friends at Johnny. I'm like, oh, yeah. I mean me miss zella like boys. That's the best thing that could have bought yours, boss. Yeah. So yeah, listen, maybe it's only interviewer I had again. I had a tremendous time with them. We were laughing. We were joking. My shirt was off. It was the word shirt was all why would you? Sure. Well, you'll have to watch the review. That's what we call a teen. Little busy. So tonight. I'd say it was a good review. Wouldn't you Frankie? I thought it was a great review for him for Dave being like, Dave ran most of the interview. It's only it's only interviewer or not the interviewee. Dave ran the shit. Like, you wouldn't believe he knew he had to come prepared because we saw this stuff leading up. He's like I'm going to have to throw hundred miles an hour on the black. And he did I made them feel good. I made them feel comfortable talk shit about a couple of people said, I'm friends with Johnny Menzel fourth Heisman Trophy right play ball. And look a lot of these little testament the barstool right there that everybody all week long. Getting the same cookie cutter. Bullshit interviews this person that person you see him everywhere you hear the same exact shit. They come here. Maybe they do a pizza review. Dave portnoy. But world changing things. Open up quickly little we'd little pizza. We'll get kicked up of the NFL. That's my rap right now. So there are people say that you should start doing the with celebrities. Yeah. You know, I don't know that allows celebrities just wanna be take a monster hits on camera. Fair put if they to supposed to do is supposed to do with two chains chains was supposed to be in the Mosser hits only club. He bailed on me because wrappers bale wrapper. Yeah. So instead of doing to James said the whole office. I mean, big cat. I think is this favorite club. He's ever been in up talking about today. Yeah. It is great to that. Like, it's it's another testament to box classic Barsha. All of our boys. Are most camera facing front facing employers are all just on the internet last night. Taking huge hits Mazar hits moth there. Take Dale Caleb was tried to play down. I I don't hear anyone outside of partial talk. Oh, Mosser hits club is big people dropped off. We'd last night to the house for the month. The hits guiding what is what was the deal last night with per cousins. Was that a joke? So there's some element. This is a true story, Frankie, I we're getting Starbucks today. In like, I had my back to a guy in. I got we got up to leave in this guy in a suit that looks like an FBI agent, like got up instantly and followed us out to the point Frank. Like is that guy following us? It feels like the NFL maybe is watching me wouldn't surprise surprise me. So last night on like you last night. There was an NFL PA car parked in our driveway the entire night, and they kept asking whereas cousin like is Kirk cousins in the house like what are you talking about? No, I'm starting to put things together that Kirk cousins, excuse seems like a pretty convenient excuse to be like this is just a spy what a random player. Why would they come up with Kirk cousins here? Exact carpet Clark. They said like is Olsen here. Maybe that. All right. Well, it's so confused because you know, what Harvard guy I call, Greg. Golsen be like there's a car here. We don't know Kirk cousins. So if we contact at curt he's like, I have nothing to do with that. Well, now, we know there's something fishing through picture them taking the stickers right off the car like drive into a garage in there. It is. It's good. Dell's car I thought NFL PA liked us. They do. So this could have been the NFL fell. Also, sorry guide view rigs. And he's like I'm from Boston. Oh, where are you from Cambridge went to school in Cambridge? He did the whole deal yoyo song and dance called I cough. Right. I love you ask. So I looked he posed shit on that all the time. It's wave. It's just when it had it's way better. They coming out with Suzy meet somebody they go to heart. He didn't do that. I went to school in Boston. I said where no he goes on from Boston. I go where he goes. I went to school in Cambridge. That exactly how you gotta keep milking it the more questions you get out of somebody the more the better you perform to that. I call my all Harvard. I don't care because I wasn't gonna fuck and come if you said Harvard, I don't care buddy coupla Harvey guys shouted by by Francis. Another thing while we Gotcha. Dave, we got greeny and rigs or heating up. So what is this fight about? I know this. I know rigs who can't right. No, greenie who can't write a headline for life of them comes out with a Har hard our word hard. I were this headline is biggest fucking idiot. I've ever met. I guess all I heard that. He changed it then the moron. Yes. Listen, greenie, if you're listening, you have no brain, you're such a stupid human. I think it started. Well, it started with reeks doesn't want to be loved date with greedy. I don't blame him sort of blood. I thought that was a great blog. Yeah. And then yesterday they were taking shots back and forth. I think today rigs wrote a blog about daddy age three took offense to that. Just been really that sounds like what did Nate use the com- on Donovan Nate Nate. Yeah. That sounds a little bit like that. That's a big time. Donovan McNabb move big time. Big time. Yeah. I don't know what the deal is. With those two. I do know that you can't just come out and headlines with hard with hard ours. That's like for whatever reason the word. I just don't use ever. Like, I don't use the retard work. Never ever. I don't this is my lead to rough around. That'd be great. That would get those two guys interested in those program. This is a loser. I there's a loser leaves town match like losers gone fired. We we don't need to you spread that hasn't happened yet. We got to a point where you're literally fighting for your job. A loser leaves town match will be right. What what is your official pick tonight in more diverse or I'm rooting for mardi you walk. But I think most. Matt Brown at all. Well, he's part of that bubbly gangs. Right. Yeah. You don't have any like since he was loyal to barstool over bubbly games. Well, we don't know that yet for people like hacked our systems and things like that was he still technically under investigation. Keep my map Brown at all times the rest of his life till he's dead. Gotcha map Brown will get a stink eye from me. Like, I know you met brought I know I know who you run with you could say tonight, psychological bar so boy against the traitor. It just March trade. Yeah. Mardi mush isn't even so much oil just so dumb. He's too dumb to be loyal. I also think he's too dumb to know these probably get beat pretty bad which works in his favor. I think that'd be closer. I think that'd be pretty close posted on the experts think. Yeah, I think so I I don't think we're gonna have a knockout way to sell the fight. Tommy. I hope we do. That's a good way to maybe. We'll just have a ton of decisions. I think it'll be full of decision. We'll just have a ton of long dragged out. You know, highlight don't think this fight will be a good intense fight. Oh, there's mush right there. So we got mardi mushy over here. I don't know. Do we want to get him on and talk to them and all about how he's feeling? I don't know how to type the headsets like four twenty six twenty seven. We had a couple of minutes mush. He hasn't moved onto the stage. Mush I would say with future. If anybody mentions you at all you just spread down to the stage. You get in the mix. We have already much. He's coming on. I wouldn't say people were going crazy for maybe two or three clap. Barney not showing a ton of sense of urgency. You're gonna try to give you that. There's a heads. So mardi mush your MIR. What like three four or five hours away from the first fight of your life. Not only rough and rowdy. You've never been in a fight. Right. Yeah. Never fight once in my life. That's what makes me nervous about much. Now. Are you nervous? I'm not that nurse. I mean, there's not much going on in my head. That's like I don't even know what time when they get there. So like, I'm not worrying about him. He's all his head. Like he is. So rattled right now, which is going to play to my advantage. And I think I'm gonna fuck them up party. You know, how they always say drunk driving? It's an it's the drunk driver all times for very unjust reasons. But ends up like not being injured one because they were super fucked up and couldn't even react. That's you going into the wheel plenty of time. I've never gotten her at once, you know, what's going to happen. Yeah. If you're relaxed you take punishment either. I do want to say can we assign somebody to make sure he gets there? Yeah. That could be done. Do you even know where it is? No. I really appreciate letting you know somebody's got to be assigned to mardi mush getting into the venue. I'll say good thing. We caught that. Because it's weird that I'm like gotta go and get there. Earlier Mars on your fight like seven o'clock, right? Yeah. Right. It's not that far away. Like literally leaving the segment because doors are going to be opening at six on going to be settled sound check all that you seemingly have no I have no hands on how you're getting. I was came here to see what's going on and not just the venue. We gotta make sure he gets to the ring venue. We could lose them. Right. Have you already into a spot just like stay mardi? He sees a light. He sees like a concession stand. He he's like a little light. And he just wanders over the dog. Oh, what's this to want to get like distracted during the fight? See something like oh shit me. Not. For you. Are you betting tonight? That's what I was going shit. All right. A couple of side. That's how myself are you betting like other games like basketball games by I'll have games blog will be up by six hundred. I'm ready to go down in the whole bed, by the way. Oh this. I mean this week's been bad. I tell you already lucky on the Lakers last night in the over. That's chasing. I literally bet everything last night. I was in till full blown. It's all through school. What I got lucky because I got some winters. I usually don't get like the Lakers overtime. It went from under in the clippers to Lakers and the over because the overtime fake. That's a big win. Right. This is the monster hits club at all affect gambling like do you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Multi hits only club affects everything I was like giggling, I was like friendly. I was eating Chinese food. I was eating all day in the L is burnt cookies. I was betting everything different person get out with everybody. I don't I never hang out with really gone away. From these. I'm saying nice time where it's like, oh that was a funny joke. You don't do that Marty? Do you have any like Landon and I like a game plan? Yeah. I have a plan. I know he's going to rush. He wants to be you don't wanna get too much. No, I no it's going to happen. He's gonna come out swinging wants to not be out once I Boston employed knocked out. I'm a long Bassett like people my left arms a little shorter than the right? Yeah. It's a little you see that. Oh, wow. Yeah. But that's the only problem. I think, but I won't reach you think that's going to be a big factor. No. I don't think. So I think I have the smarts in this. It just crazy you tell smart. Smart definitely not say that with a straight face. Definitely no tricks up my sleeve that thing I'm gonna catch them off guard you won't let enough not. No, why did I do think your clinic? But I never have fought. Is what worries? Yes stuff. But I also sparred before this to getting I think I was concussed at one point this guy knocked the other thing that will save everyone often rowdy in everyone who's fought in. It has the same thing. There is no way. To simulate the real fight doesn't matter. How much you are? There is nothing. Like this atmosphere will be four thousand people three thousand people going bananas. It's like a real prizefight, and you could get better on a national scale or you could be victorious. It's a lot of pressure. Yeah. Everyone's pretty much said that they trained for months and months, and they totally forgot everything. Once. Lose one hundred percent him. I'm nobody knows who he is. But that's geared cut that you have to deal with that all the time. I think is equal. I this is not a chef midget fight the guys. I don't think either. Like, there's not some huge discrepancy. Yeah. I don't think it's a big loss. But I really don't see myself moving. You can't do it. Not how much would it be to win without be one of the biggest wins moments of your life? But also it's going to help me pay my book to off. I have like it might save your life. It's going to save. My book has been touched me all day that'll be a huge pay day for you a victory. Ten grand SuperBowl coming up to like, that's my favorite time grants. No joke. No joke. A hundred grand or the patriots. I haven't met. So I decided I'm either not betting on the patriots or important one hundred grand on one or the other. What what do you want money line because I'm not gonna win by like a point? Now, that'd be like, oh, I lost one hundred grand. What's the money line? It's like minus one forty be fourteen one hundred and forty grand to win one hundred grand at that point is I said, I I saw them report that confirmed I was doing this. I will either but nothing or you'll better hundred thousand dollars. What's gonna what's going to be the deciding practic, it's how I wake up in the morning and how I feel how the birds Chirpin whether sunny what this Brady puts out like an Instagram post. Then I'm like oh shit. I'm in. That's what happened to me before the SEC championship team. So a couple of Brady quotes done. I mean Brady just put out the follow. Like poem the poll that didn't do it for you. I'm not I know I want to put it on T shirt. It would be like. Yeah. It's all motivation. I start doing this. When I start doing this with my hands and then like game. Okay. All right. Well, mardi much. Good luck tonight. Dave, you gotta go. Call rough and rowdy. Yup. Or at our seven tonight. There's twenty eight thirty five something like that. We've got kind of two main events which obviously chef against this tiny little internet troll Twitter. I I hope that kicking fight makes it interesting. It would be so low so exciting. He's been traded. He knows what the fuck up too little bastard. We obviously got Marty Brown. Good luck to you already Bush. Thank you.

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Episode 50: Cejudo, Sonnen in studio, Cyborg, Waterson, Sterling, King Mo, many more

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Episode 50: Cejudo, Sonnen in studio, Cyborg, Waterson, Sterling, King Mo, many more

"The. And gentlemen. Welcome to. Back in your life on this Monday, June tenth two thousand and nineteen wanna marry a Hawaii. Welcome back to the program. I own, my we have a lot to talk about this week are coming off a thrilling weekend in Chicago highlighted by the first ever Helwan erode show Friday night, a magical night an unbelievable night. One of the most memorable nights of my career June seven two thousand nineteen CBO ch- Ben aspirin, Paul Felder, wonderboy, Thomson, and Eddie Alvarez for the first ever knows world order trivia challenge, and I won't spoil who won because if you want to listen to it, you can on our, our old feed the feed that you're maybe listening for this after the fact, usual podcast feed, you know, the one you can actually download the show and it sounded great. I wanna thank Elizabeth Daniel, Glenn. Everyone involved. It was amazing two hundred plus fans. There was credible. I can be. Happier. Also special shout to Andrew Davis of the stats and information group for coming up with the questions. It was a lot of fun. I hope to do many more, thank you. Thank you. Thank you to everyone who came to the event Friday night at Lincoln hall, and of course Saturday night at the United Center, Henry Suharto makes history once again, he is now the Olympic champion the flyweight champion and the bantamweight champion of the UFC. He defeats mama rice in a great fight and entertaining fight who thought that flight would not live up to the hype. Who thought that it would be boring? It was amazing. And now you have a flyweight who holds all the gold and apparently, according to Dana white, the flyweights have been saved. I'm reserving judgment on that one. As I wrote on my call at ESPN dot com. I random thoughts. You could check it out right now. I wanna see if they're actually going to start booking Henry in flyweight fights or if they're just saying that, so that they call him a double champ, because there's a difference and there's only like ten fighters left in the division. So are they actually going to actively start building it back up after getting rid of those guys or do they just want to say it's around because that, you know? The two titles. A little more credibility. We'll see nevertheless, great performance. Great win. He is coming into his own. He is very entertaining very charismatic. I love the cringe stuff. I think it's a lot of fun. And so that was notable Valentina shift chanko, her vicious knockout of just guy that was notable. I have a hard time seeing anyone at one twenty five challenging her anytime soon. I've been wrong before, but while it seems like she is fighting at a different level. It seems like she is sort of what DJ was a couple years ago. But I would actually argue the gap is bigger between Valentina and the rest of the contenders are one twenty five and and DJ was dealing with at one hundred five course. Twenty Ferguson with the win over Donald Surani blew his nose is wells up. It was a bit of a gruesome affair, but a great win for Tony start off a little slow. He was really pouring it on in the second round and I thought it was starting to look elementary that he would either stop him or at least get the victory in the third round, great win. It's great to have L back now. Title shot. All right. Let's talk about who is joining us on today's show because like I said, we've got a lot to get to, and I wanna get to our first guest of the day because it's very exciting. We've got an in studio guest, and it's a dear friend. It's a colleague there, I say to partner. He's got a big week ahead of him. But first, let me tell you about the lineup the F or mention Henry, so who will be joining us at around three fifty PM eastern time. Yes. The king cringe, the man who holds all the goal the triple C, the triple champ. He will be here. Yes, I am looking forward to that. It's going to be great also will be joined later on in the program by that woman. Let your Kagan she defeated dry, Calderwood, and the quote unquote, Kernan Jerker issue. The number one contender at one hundred and twenty five pounds. We'll get blonde fighters. Thoughts on? It also be joined by algebra sterling who had a big win on Saturday over Pedro Munos. And I wonder now if he's the number one contender at one hundred and thirty five pounds. So who do I think is a little banged up? So I wouldn't be surprised if sterling Ciotat again. Also a big win on Saturday have to meet, but for now. Now it's a good time to be alginates sterling. We'll also talk to. That, man Marquette, I don't have listened front of me. Some sort of relying on the pictures in this particular case. He's the head coach of Marlon REIs, and we'll get his thoughts on the fight. What went wrong? And then, of course, the Frankie Edgar title fight coming up in late July in Edmonton prior to Mark Henry. We'll be joined by that, man, Calvin cater who had a big win over Ricardo lamas walked into enemy territory, had a nice victory stoppage win in Chicago Ricardo lamas. First time that Calvin caters on the program. And in fact, one of his teammates came up to me before the fight and said, you better have Calvin on if he wins on Saturday? And I said, I will and here I am a man of my word king Mola wall retired while we were on the air last week. And I've always loved talking to king MO one of the smartest men in the game. And so I'm happy to have him on this week. We'll talk about the retirement and where he goes from here. Also Michelle Waterson was in the news on Saturday night, white saying, she is not in the discussion to fight for the next little surprise by all that. We'll get her thoughts on all that, and see what's next for her. And what? He thought of Tana's wars and all that stuff. Chris cyborg, has a fight against Felicia Spencer, and it appears as though, she might be reaching the end of road at, at the we'll get her thoughts. She tweeted something, very interesting about Dana weights comments about her not wanting to fight Jimenez, tick that. Every tweeted it, so I'm looking forward to talking to Chris, I, but first, where is my old French L P is he making his weight is he making a grand entrance is going to join us? I do believe in a matter of seconds in our studio. He wasn't in Chicago. He was getting ready. I flight Friday night at Madison Square Garden Bill Tor to twenty two yes chill. Please. I don't mean to look at this. What are we have? Chil-. What this is unbelievable cupcakes for me. One one year anniversary diversity. A hog. Wow. Well, yes, my idea, if you call me, Leo Mundy's. Yes. Let me tell you, why don't we have a theater? We're not done. Oh my God. There's for the one, you're ever Serie. Yes. Ten years this show, you guys are so ten years in the business I love you. Thank you guys, Leah's, the best top-five human beings, I've ever met in my life. That's fair. Yeah. Fair. Top-five. Wow. Look at this, my shows ten years old this month, one year anniversary of my move here at ESPN joining forces with you. We built the PM plus on our backs on our backs with our hands. Now, everyone's patting doing the old Barry Horowitz. Hey you gonna was an argument. You were in with the ESPN. Okay. What's sick of not getting the respect deserve, how after that? How did that I told to take a hike nowhere told him that I bury him where you stand? Come on. I told him to take his phone. Because his, his body lay was, I didn't know if he got it any mean he's very dry. Yes, he's a jokester. But did he get it? I think he got. All right. You didn't talk to him after we don't know, for sure. He got it. It's a shoot when you when you shoot. You don't ask after the fact. Right. Was that cooling policies actually lot of people in the comments? When post that said show would be proud. I thought was great. But I was reading his body lanes. I'm not sure Kenny, appreciate us. We'll see if I'm on, again, never know. Yeah, we'll never know. No one knows this. Very nice. Thank you. You brought this up from New York for me. It's right. Wow. Vanilla really beautiful. Will thank you straight year. If it wasn't weighing week for me that we would have a contest you and I right now. So I would do I would absently a cat named cupcake cut case. Okay. That was your thing. You and me should take. She likes her nickname. Right. How much way to nineteen to nineteen? Yes. So after a couple of fights at heavyweight is a tough banking macoute. Well, it is different. Yeah. It is. I prefer it. I prefer it in that it builds an extra mechanism of discipline. Okay. To get that extra run or forces, you eat a little healthy. You lose that, that discipline, heavyweight or at least I did. But I also was faced with the I don't want to be too small, that's in theory. But at the same time, if I get to, I can't move it was his, we're balancing act would no way to find out until you weigh in, and then go competancy feel so you're also finding getting into, but you're also fighting a smaller to five right? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So it's probably in your best interest to try to be as you need. You need to be fast metric, you'd wanna be big fitting rampage at two different levels of two five agree, right? Yeah. And he moves. Well, I mean he was world champion a two five. Yes is the top contender at eighty five. So he's one of those. Yeah. Right in that way classes pretty good for him. So how'd you in studio when you talked about you just got the fight? It was just announced. And you said, you want to do this for Randy kicked his to all that stuff more now that we're five days before the fight. How do you feel about the fight that? That, that level motivation like the revenge. Wanna get revenge or have the feelings change. No, that's exactly where however that will change in fairness, that changes each days. The fight gets a little closer and you start thinking stop thinking about those things just start to really focus on yourself, eventually, it'll be the way in, and then you recover and get a good night's sleep. And then it's about the warm up, and, and walk it out, and performance, so that will change. But yeah, I think you're right this whole process do enjoy this. Yeah. Now that you know that I won't point it's going to come to an end. Find yourself, appreciating more more. Yes. Yes. Around you smell the roses have many regrets in my career, but my biggest regret is I've never enjoyed it. I've never enjoyed a single, not one of the trips or the venue or the but I think that that is wrong. I wish I would have enjoyed it. I wish I would have taken and realize that, you know, I don't have to do this. I get to do this, and I want to do this, but it never seemed like that always very stressful environment. And have you started to enjoy it a little more one town to the next? I'm trying to I've at least identified that and I'm trying to when did that happen like the identification that I need to start actually appreciating this because it's going to come to an end at some point Altima fighter three Brazil, and with other coaches and we all talked about that really as one of the requirements, head of the coaching staff when we got the schedule I said, everybody come on Mark two days that you're taking off. You're gonna take off. You're gonna see Brazil. You're gonna go enjoy some food, some relaxation, essentially, whatever could be. But let's enjoy this we've never we've never had any fun just been work, where let's even if it's only two days, everybody. Enjoy this some point. All right. So you're joining it. What a week saying what a way to start your week. Yeah. I mean here with us here we are still Connecticut's. I missed you this weekend. I missed you. Hey, what a great card it was carbon. Carbon value. Thank you for that. No, it feels a little empty. I was talking with Charlie Charlie are fearless producer on the on the road enjoyed his forty ninth birthday this past. Did you text them know you're big on birthdays? It now. That's gone. What that's a loss on your part Thursday night. Now I'm really lay this really right? And plus I said it on the air, and I'm gonna take a shot at of that. Okay. Just pretend like this happen, and that he doesn't watch show, but I was telling him a little empty without you. And so I'm happy. Now you told me before we started. You did watch L, course you watch the whole thing. I spoke to Henry Suharto on the phone as I was driving from where I live to Bristol. And he said, what shall think? What did shelter? And it's like chills opinion really maddest you Henry's, like, yes, it really matters to me. I wanna know what he thought of it all. And so, I'll ask you what did you think of it? I appreciate that. So, I to thoughts I from the entertainer aspect of it, which is what I mean. Look, he saved the flyweights I realize this wasn't a fight, but he is the flyweight champion. It's relevant to bring up from the entertainer stand. There was something to see all week, every time Henry. Out there. It didn't matter even if he was throwing out the first pitch in that baseball game. There was something to see there in the crowd. They didn't even know who they were booing him. He's out there, too. It was wonderful. And the thing about Henry that I'm appreciate an as viewer who wants to be entertained is how confident he is in the stuff that he's doing. And how much fun he is having I can see. He is having fun. So even if somebody wanted to tease him and say, the, the crown is silly or whatever it may be it's working. It just is it's just working, there's something to see their then as you look at the fight. My goodness, aero. Come on. I mean, I'll remind you again, to compare the entertainer with the athlete because it is a combination of the two when Mayweather started doing the money thing, he's throwing them on everybody. All they hated. It was cringe-worthy made everybody uncomfortable. Now, they call him money may, whether they want to see if you're having success in your winning, and that's where it's who does that you can get away with a lot of things that other people couldn't get away with I think he's doing everything, right? Did you pick them going into the fight? I did pick him. Yeah. Thought, do you think it would go like that? 'cause I thought he was losing the first round. Oh, he. Lost the first round. Yeah. He made a just and I think he might deserve to lose the first round he came out in a little bit different stance than I had seen before. His chin was up a little bit more. His range wasn't great against Marlon throwing leg kicking opposed to punches. But also ends up being a credit for Henry. He made that adjustment. You know it all started when he threw that cross in Atlanta, and he throws a second cross talk about the physical side, but may whether used to throw double crosses, and that was shocking that you could with no Jabeen between no distractions just crosses he was so fast and got away with it, Henry through. And if you go back and watch Sam six he threw six crosses that we're unanswered and no setup in between. No jab cross cross slipped one time cross. Cross cross. Cross cross unbelievable. And that's really when he changes he got him in that tie-clinching deliver the vs. I thought the Marlin deserved a lot of credit there, too, by the way when he was getting need in the phase Anderson, Silva rich Franklin style came right out of it started fighting again, I was confused. How Marlin is good of a standard fighters. He is was lost in that position, though, I was confused. He was lost in. Did. Remind me of rich Franklin who was great versus Anderson Silva Anderson found that one position that for whatever reason rich didn't know how to deal with and Marlin was the same way. He just took those knees. Got really tired, though. Right. You seem like he was guessing out a little bit. But it was an amazing fight entertaining his head so much respect for Henry. And I wonder like he's really good at one thirty five. I don't know. What if I'm Henry what you do? Why would you go down to one twenty five or now the champ at one thirty five? I know it's a great gimmick to have the two titles. But doesn't really make a lot of sense. Right. I think that's right. And it would come down in my estimation, I think you would agree with whatever. The bigger fight was ever steps forward at one twenty five they get more attention than one thirty five. And I do think that it is important to Henry to be the first guy to defend the belt, but you do make a fair point is a very hard thing to do. If in fact, he saved the flyweights as we've been told that he's going to have to go back to hey, one forty five Scillies that may sound don't forget, arrow, we teased him when he first said that was the ninety beat dillashaw. We. Teased him was, it's you don't tease him. Now, all of a sudden you gotta listen to the guy when he won the Olympics and he never brings us up about himself. He needs to tell the people this. He won the Olympics at a different weight. Some people think that was at one twenty five or one third Nuno. He won that one Twenty-one, then he won the won twenty five anyone the one thirty five hour. So he's as he wants to go to one forty five who can stay he can't. Now you can debate whether he went or not. But you can't say he doesn't have the right to make the claim and match Frankie. Edgar beats max hallway, that's not a massive size difference. Right. He's not that much bigger than or so. I think it's definitely doable. His claim that he's the greatest combat. Sports athlete of all time. What do you make of it hard to disagree with really? I don't know that I would co-sign the statement, I tend to lead towards door Saint Pierre. I tend to look into John Jones. It's you can't just dismiss the statement of two different sports in three different weight classes, you can't simply just do this. He does need a little bit more time. And I think over time if you wanna talk about this, I think over time history could go against Jon Jones, and I say that in. This regard. The sport is now leaning toward Scott, Coker Dana white. So the sport is leaning towards these champ champ opportunities in different weight classes and co mingling. Guys and creating this kind of parody. If John is greatest, he is at light heavyweight. I'm already starting to see the dialogue from Johns. The greatest fighter ever to John greatest light heavyweight, I'm already starting to hear these kinds of things over time. If he doesn't spread it to another weight, and he's a bit of a gym. I think this is unfair. John is the perfect size for two five. He's too big for one eighty five. He'll argue too small for at the perfect size. It's not his fault. I bring his name because it's one that I know you'll recognize and over time I think that it could affect his legacy. Okay. And so. Right. So what about he's won? Thirty one twenty five Olympic gold. Medalist. You also. I mean you can also talk about some boxers because when you say combat sports, you're just mentioning MA fighters jor will like you can throw in sugar. Ray Roberts Robinson, and alkyl Mata and Muhammed all the anyone you want. Right. It gets a little tricky. Then that's why I agree with you. I can't actually say it. I don't feel comfortable saying it. But I don't want to argue it right. He could run within I've no problem with that. I don't wanna say myself when he said it again, backup to was that January. Nineteen in Brooklyn good memory dillashaw. Thank you for that. And he made the claim it was a little come on. But it is now hard to say that it was what's he got to do? And I know the answer is, he's got to have more opportunities. More guys defend more about I get all of it. But he is spreading around that hardware in. It's not a ridiculous claim anymore. It's one you might disagree with. But it's not when you can tease him for which is released January. He did get teased for it. He really wanted to know if you felt like his delivery was on point like the whole package. The thing does what he's like, breathing. And he's out the Cameron itself. And you talked about the props, but it feels very comfortable. It doesn't feel forced, correct. Yeah. I know the cringe stuff as part of the gimmick. But to me, it's crazy. It's really entertaining. I really enjoy Henry, pseudo, particularly because he is having fun with it, you can tell he is not uncomfortable. You've seen guys go out there when you wanna talk about the delivery and the entertainment aspect of seeing guys go out there with a pocket statement and they come out and deliver it like the cap that the Canarian they got this great look on their face in the crowd has no idea what they're talking about. And then they get embarrassed, which you would he doesn't. Get embarrassed. He's so comfortable in his own skin. I think that's one of the really great things about it. And as far as delivery. It was wonderful. And I liked that he stopped Joe Rogan before they faded a black and roll the credits. Wait a minute. I wanna call some guys out and I want to do it by name Harry smart to do. All of a sudden, what's he says, dominant, you think Dominic not going to respond to that? He says, Cody Garbrandt you think cody's not going to respond Corsie's guys are gonna respond? Let's get it going. Yeah. If he doesn't do that. You and I didn't just spend ten minutes talking about it. We just did it right? We brush it off and went to the bullets head kick. We brushed it off and started talk other things on on the card right now force the dialogue to go on he won. Okay. Let me ask you about Tony Ferguson that ever happened to before would happen to Sironi hit the bell. No, no. I've heard about that. And you know what? It's hard for me to know that. That's true. And I think when I put myself in his shoes, I blow a nose. Yeah. I mean, if you feel like you've got to breathe, and you only got two ways to do it. And one of them's clogged you try to clear it makes sense to me is crazy to see how like how freaking out and trying to push it down. I think he actually would have fought. There's no doubt in my mind. That's continued crack. It was the right call foreshore. Do you have any issue with the punch after the bell? I do in that. It was blatantly late. Okay. Sure. There was to perhaps, perhaps it was only in the heart of Tony, we'll probably never know the answer to that. It was blatantly late, how however, there is a rule that you stop on the referee. Not on the bell. Now, I'm starting to getting the technical aspects of it as to why the commission allowed the referee to issue a warning, as opposed to point as it went to a TKO favoring Tony as a force to a disqualification hurting. Tony, and that is a very real thing. He does not have to stop on the bell. That's true. He has to stop on the referee. Okay. So. Yeah. No problem with that. I had a problem with it. I will acknowledge that I will knowledge it was Q. I think there's a fair conversation if I if I had to choose one now, even with the benefit of hindsight, which the commission and the referee, of course, did not have. I still think we're glad to get it right. And I, I would go in that favorite identity. Love the reasoning I didn't have the resources. Reasoning behind it as what I had more of a problem with which is the late punch landed here and the effects of the I were over here, and therefore the late punch didn't affect the eye, and we stopped the fight because I didn't love that whether it's right or wrong. I vent love that, but I do think a warning likely was appropriate. What did you make of his performance overall incredible really Tony incredible them cowboy one the first round? Right. He did you ever seen? You've seen. Tony lose the I make out a little bit of a slow start before it gets that pace going. But lose an entire round is very rare thing. I thought that COPA great. And I also think he deserves credit in the second round for those take downs. One of them was super close. One of them actually was -ffective. He only held him there for a few seconds, but he got the former national champion down. I thought it was a very good fight. It was trending in, in Tony's direction though. And it was largely just because of that pace and cowboy said that before the fighting. So look, I don't think he's Mr. technical standup fighter but boy, he'll throw a lot of shots. That's true. If the says Tim right now. All right. You're the man twelve in a row. You haven't lost since two thousand twelve. You can wait for the winner of v portray or can have Connor, which are you taking Connor? Yeah. I'll tell you this since you brought that up. Tony Ferguson is the only guy only guy in all of them a may that I could name for you right now that has five opponents that he could fight any one of those five via main event, and be a box office, people who are the office of boxful. You said it enough confidence box office. Okay. Well, let's just go through it. You name, two of them sure he could go to compete. He could go into Pori. Of course, it could go into Connor who can't get it. He could go into Nate. Let me tell you let me throw name you though. You're gonna love this matchup. If you get this, Tony Ferguson just to get you, boom. I knew that works works, particularly this will surpri in three rounds. It's a more compelling fight of scheduled for three rounds for five why. Because now all of a sudden you take a little bit of that pace away from Tony. I you take a little bit of that. Where that gates, he's known for taking by choice. He prefers to be an fistfight than to go out there and just use his best gills. And I just think in fifteen minutes, you would have something so incredibly special could still over twenty five I would almost guarantee you, you wouldn't fifteen it would be scheduled to that. That's a main event in any arena that they play. So it would be five round. Right. But I think it's a fun discussion point. I think I'm right. Okay. Now predict what actually happens because his his path has been so unpredictable. Right. Who wins twelve hundred. Oh and doesn't get attached this data shot. Right. You're wasn't lost in seven years, and to what you actually happens will. I don't believe that he will fight Conor next for multiple reasons, but I just don't think that he will have Connor next just come the question. And I'm thinking out loud here. I didn't know you're gonna just. That's right. But so Connor can kind of do what he want kind of do whatever he would like to do, and that's even been stated, and the fellow athletes were well, we gotta see what Connor decides to do. So he decides to go into a match with Khabib that's likely going to halt Tony for a little bit. And. That, of course, is being very presumptuous that could be gets over port, which is hard fight. He's favored to do. So I'm as I talked you just looking in lines that he does with that fight got interrupted somehow, I think it would likely become. I don't know if you're going to get Connor back against anybody besides compete. Really? I just don't know that you are Nate. Yeah. Yeah. I stand corrected. He will come back for Nate. I mean they have to do that, right. Even according to Connor on our lives, his life by code, and you may disagree, or you may agree with his Kobe lives by a code and he does respect the architecture and the history of combat sports, Mick special specifically in. He understands that when you split into you go to the rubber match. He understands that he stated at many times on the record. Where did you watch the fight? I wash my house watching by yourself. I had Jolan latte over who's even Jolan land that too bony that you do your show. Okay. So comes over and watches comes over to order, the pay per view. Wow. Sixty bucks really sixty bucks. We'll, he's living in his ex wife's house right now. So she get the Bill and then he'd be caught. And she told me to come over my gosh. So he makes you pay for it. Yes, you need water. A lot of information. No talking to fast. All right. We'll want cupcakes. I am excited. Would you like okay now? Okay, I'm overweight. Are you do nineteen this morning team pounds to go? No. That is not a hard wait cut, but it would warrant not having a cupcake yet. That's probably thirteen pounds over then have a cupcake. I'm probably like twenty pounds over New York commission any issues with it. No. No. You really not like fighting in New Yorkers that, just the thing that you say probably a little bit more of a bit. Don't forget, the first time I hit started it. I had never even thought or knew how, how could I say, I don't wanna fight if I never even right now, I was having a little bit fun with the city right sheep. Eat very GP doesn't. Take any sophistication. Yeah. I don't have any issue with the commission. I know they've had a couple of headaches over the years, but they're really silly ones. I think in many ways they were falsely accused this incredible thing. I don't know if you realize the, the opportunity to have water, yes, you have water. I'll give you a fresh bottle just very Q he'll Wani you. See. I'm not that bad of a guy after all, did you miss did you when you're watching the show with your friend, the Gibran? But I just I feel like you enjoy. When I call him that you're like, you know, I wish I'd be watching this very I wish I was a part of you. Feel that way very much. Yeah. So you went to two Twenty-nine, which was a week before you're fighting Fyodor. Yeah. Why didn't you go to this one? This one was just a little bit different because they brought us in so early to New York, today's Monday by example. I arrived Sunday, so that I could be here in Bristol. Don't forget. I'm staying in New York couple hours away half hour drive. So logistically, it was just a little hard. Okay. This is never happened me. I've never been on a set. I got this cough and needed water. I see other people always with their drinks in there. What what's wrong with you throat gets parched? It just it's happening to me. Too more water. I think maybe the gum is you're doing is that what it is? I mean a little embarrassed about it quite frankly, don't use them a little while on the air, cutting a little bit of weight mouth. Get strikes. As part of the process. Is that true that thing? Okay, how many more do you go left in you? Because I feel like fights if people who are trying to say, like if you don't win this one, this could be your thing, right? Oh well in fairness to them. Yeah. I think that is a little bit of a thing. I don't imagine this would be my last fight under any scenario. That is what, what I'm proposing. But yeah, I think that, that's fair to always look at a match and say, hey, you know, if a guy doesn't doesn't get over the. Yeah. I think that's a very real thing. I've been hearing it for about ten years. It isn't a new thing for me to hear, but I wanted to credit for somebody for following my career and pointing that out how many flights left on your deal with Baltimore on my deal with. Latour. Let's see. I'm not sure that I'm not sure that I even have this one. I've never reflected back on that deal. But to my understand it was a four fight deal. I've done four fights. I've never even been offered Machida by the west stay. I've told you was I never offered me. I've never accepted Machida. I was never offered Machida. You reported on ESPN dot com, but I will be fighting and here I am no agreement. There's gotta be one somewhere. You have not side. What has to talk to Leah really? I haven't slant, it will sign it at the waves. You hit an EPA get were it Bella towards what they don't have to worry about old shale, right? L channels companyman. I'll be here to fight. But if you asked about the contract, I'd have you ever actually gone through the fight without signing about agreements about agreement? I don't think so the only other fight that I've had that I never agreed to because I was never offered it still to this day was show gun. Never even been offered that fight the commission handles out agreements to my understanding really about agreement is different than a contract with say, Bella. And so, I believe before you can even get on the scale you sign about. Agreement really? Okay. I'm quite sure I thought it was if you don't sign it, right. Then they will at least check to make sure it signed. Okay. It's my understanding. So technically, you're saying, you have actually fulfilled the obligations on your contract. Yes. So this, I mean, they say we need or maybe you should say, we need to renegotiate our deal after this. They say here's your hat. What's your hurry, shale business? Another could do this were, you know, I don't know that I was worried about I don't think I ever thought about until you just asked me about this. You would just ask me the question. I don't know. I don't worry about this, there seems like there's always somebody that needs beat up. It seems like I have a moral obligation to continue this, but I don't know. I don't know how they're happy with you. Well, I mean, I would imagine you're the only guy on every show. It's amazing. It's like sometimes I all it's amazing. Be happy with old shale. How did take care of his business? I know. I know everyone loves be chill. Yeah. It's just an amazing story like you're the only one who crosses all the promotional boundaries. That's very nice that you wanna know who. I get a lot of credit and it's a tremendous culpable. You want to know who did it? I doesn't get credit gilber, Gobert melinda's remember when he was working at FOX, right? Covering the UFC, and then he come over here, the ESPN you know, he talked about the PF. The Bill be Gilbert was actually the first. Okay fair enough. I get the credit. It's false. With Michael spin on on Saturday. He was sort of taking guy should be worried that I don't have a contract. But now you've got me spit on that a little is that something shattering Coker my Cogan are upstanding. Yes. So as far as I'm concerned, I do I don't think gonna screw you like. Anybody today? Bret screwed. You did the right thing. Could you imagine? If Coker doesn't interview the following week, with, like, I don't know, Goldie or moral, and he talks about how screwed jail. Yeah. And now you didn't have a contract with your fault, and you're not a good businessman. It'd be great Coker turns. He'll why would grant even think you could leave one night later beyond WCW what he's going to take leave the belt. Here. You guys. Go figure it out. That's ridiculous. Just because they were in Montreal. It doesn't work that way. Brett Brett, screw bread. You made the right call you stand by this percent percent the documentary wrestling with shadows. You saw it. Yes. I thought that they had a deal and he reneged on the deal. Brett did. No vets. In the handle, whether opportunity he's virus series was survivor series was booked, everything was booked. The tickets were on sale that all of a sudden, the Booker comes in his Brett, you're putting Sean over breakfast, not not much realm. Not so well the show happens to be in Montreal. Brett, and your contract is done the second you exit that ring I won't go there and do it in t offer to extend it. He said, look, we'll do a draw we'll do a big thing. And then the next night in Detroit or wherever they were a loosen there. I just want to lose in Canada. Does just the opposite. He said he would do it prior to that because don't forget the survivor shares on a Sunday. That's when they do their paper views. And don't forget that nitro was on Monday. No the very next day was in Atlanta. Is that true? Yes, he walked out in Atlanta. Really? Yes. Next day. There was no time to do that. You know, it's one of my great throne several suggestions for teams, but it doesn't work that way. Wow. You're anti Brett, I'm not anti Brett just in this particular case. Vince did what was right that would not have been right to the rest of the boys or even to the audience for. For him to let Brett go to Atlanta, as champion you Tiki rarely do you think you really knocked them out? I was at work. No. And that was one thing that bothered me with wrestling with shadows, because that's where they changed the story now either the story was not the first time a wrestling with shadows. Got it wrong. But the story has never been told that way. Now, let me tell you where this is off. And this footage is even out there on YouTube, when Brett goes into the office with Vince throws the punch, there was multiple people in that office including Shane, and that was one of his biggest problems with what Brett did. He's like, look, I understand how we handle things when, when there's a screw I understand that you and I were going to have a moment, but you hit me in front of my son. And I let you do it. I won't let you do to get that was a very real thing, Vince, the black guy, and there's even a camera on that when Brett comes out in the pink and black, and then, Vince and Shane comes out, and I think it was Pat Patterson in the room with them. And after go, rewatch when wrestling with shadows did it, it was Brett was getting ready to shower and Vince came in. It was just the two of them, so somewhere. Somebody got this off, which Scott hall picked up on Scott hall said the whole things will work are working. Look at these. Details at constantly change. Brett was in on it from the beginning at I don't I think Scott hall is wrong. Okay. This is Scott hall. This is what he is proclaimed. Right. That's my great claim to fame. I was independence at night. Don't really I went there. Yeah, Montreal's a student at the time in high school, and I know idea what was going on. And I saw him smash the TV monitors afterwards and do the WCW then I went home on the internet and read all about it. I wasn't a wasn't a smart back then. And that's another thing that Scott hall brought up was that WCW goes, look, I'm just telling you in the heat of the moment that tired, and that fatigue and everything going, you would not think to look turn. No. Where the camera was and do that. He goes Brett was in on, I don't agree with him. I do not think it was. Right. I'm sharing the story, though. And since this whole thing is a bit conspiracy. It's fun to look at it from all angles. And that Scott hall's, I, I have no idea, how even got on this topic if I'm being honest, but I'm enjoying it thoroughly. Did you watch AWOL because you just informed me that I don't have a contract with mind spending. That's what happened. Did you watch w? Yeah. I did watch it really. I tuned in just after the battle royale, which heard opened the show and ordered it garbage. Yeah. Wow. What did you think? Very good. I also like you know, that's a star driven business much like Vince is doing with the Saudis right now where he's just gotta bring the biggest names. It was it seemed like everybody was a free agent in the world made an appearance of some regard one year which I that professional resident I considered doing that. When I was a sophomore college actually, went out to the WCW was called the power plant, which was a training out. Sars arch was there. Dr. I mean he worked I was an all college all American division with that year. Okay. I made it through I barely made it through how many days you had to do is kind of, like navy seal as soon as you've had enough that you've had enough leave, and don't come back and the very first time in the room was packed by the end of the first day. There was only three of us left and those three two of us made it to the final day who are the three now neither one of them making it. I didn't go into it after one day after one day everyone was gone. But three of us the second day we all made it to the second day. Nobody got kicked out nobody quit. But on the third day, one guy. Did not come back. He was a cop. He told us that he's guys. I, I think I'm at the end of I can't move them. There's two and then we encourage you'll be here, you know, sleeping these guys. I really don't think I'm gonna come back, and he did it, it was me gentlemen from Jamaica. Okay. And they worked Sohar air. It was so hard. And then what happened? I wasn't all I'm telling you, I barely made it through the it was so. And that was okay. So then I returned to the Oregon. I did my two more years. My senior year. They went out of business. I got invited back. Yeah. Made it to the triumph. But if you make it through the trial, all that gets you, as the interview, which they can then invite you or not invite you. I don't know what happened with the other gentleman. I got invited. Okay. But they also thought I was way too small. Put me on a scale with one hundred ninety seven pounds. They thought I was lying about my weight. They thought I was smaller, so then they put me on a scale, and they said, hey, man, you gotta be a high flier you got to, you know, and that's what they were doing in the nineties, and that's not what I wanna do. I don't wanna do door but they were trying to get over this cruiserweight class. And that was a little disheartening to me. But I that was my extent. You think if they didn't go out of business. So this is around two thousand right? Yeah. That you would have actually gone down that path instead of Emma. I can't remember back then at that time, but yeah, I think that that was my plan go and do that. At one point one is due MA. Yeah. It was just it was really hard to break into the business. I was already doing a man at my first fight in nineteen ninety seven and my first fight before. Everyone went to the power plant put to break into the business was so difficult. And in fairness, it wasn't much of a business back then it was a great sport. Many of us loved it. But this is for the sanctioning and the commissions before any television deal, this is largely in the dark ages, as you remember of, of the UFC Bella tour, wasn't even a name back then W E C pride wasn't an and don't forget, Dana white didn't get involved until two thousand one nineteen ninety seven. Tougher. Thanks could've gone, the path of, of wrestling. Did you did you try for WEF? Do you talk to them? I talked to them. I talked to them one time I share that little bit privately with you. It was just before I fought -mongst friends here. Are you won't tell anyone no share? It was just before I fought Anderson Silva, and it was basically a offer. Oh this. No call no show ten this is ten years later. What you asked me? I'm like when you were young still. I didn't know how to my only contact to the WWE Beck, and don't forget, the internet was just coming out back. Nobody had self. There was no Twitter social. Facebook wasn't even a word. I mean don't forget the time that we were in my only contact to the business back then was rowdy Roddy piper? And I didn't know him but I knew Matt Lennon met knew him. Okay. So it was hard. I didn't even know how to get in contact with them. Wait a second. Now, my dad would have figured it out. He'd probably would probably got on a plane just showed up at titan tower and try to figure it out. Out, but no, I didn't know how I don't think I've ever talked to about the other thing you mentioned was that prior to seventeen and one forty eight. This second one second one forty eight. That's a real thing. Legit one hundred percent not working me. I know someone called you and asked you not to show. No call no show, you, you cannot call. You cannot win you can't show. I got two offers or the second one was do show and beat him and be on raw with the belt on Monday. No way. Yeah, this is insane. That was a much bigger offer, and but you have to win the fight. And I said, I said called, I can't tell you really the whole story, go ahead. Fine. He said, I said. Why would they want that they want that? And he said he paused and he said to stick it up Dana White's ass. What am I said? Okay. And then what nothing I didn't. I didn't tell I'd never did anything with it. Really? Did you consider it mill or a second? Not even the second millisecond know why absolutely much money. We talking about seven figures seven figures, but why straight up it was a million dollars to no call no show as five million to be on with the belt. I was number. That's what a secret. So the whole story now Kantar long enough to tell you who call. Have you ever told the whole story? That's the only part I believe in who called. Okay. And why, why are you protecting him? Well, I feel like that's those is aiming grime don't, please don't because I'm sure it does. I don't know. Many people there. Please don't. It wasn't Vince but I will tell you this is. Go ahead. Why was just gonna say, yeah. It was not something that I would have even remotely considered I wanted the championship fight Anderson. Yeah. But if you have one, you get the bell sure then you show up and I don't think there would have been anything underhanded today there, yes. You that was cool to consider that her. Oh, really? I never talked about. I never I didn't know how it worked fight. I get on a plane the next day and just show. I don't know how. Yeah. And that was more than you were making. Does that mean they show on wrong with the belt? So I'm picturing my to this day, what I pictures, I'm on the ramp. And I'm with the belt and the audience and the wrestling crabs looking to go. Who's that guy? That's what I'm picturing would have happened. They probably wanted you to do the old allege ablaze throw it in the right S. Those were the words that were you show on raw with the bell five mil. You remember how much made for that one, oh to pay to go to wrong pay to go to raw. They were in town, and that's probably more than you were making the fight him to fight Anderson. This time was fifty fifty get outta here. I don't believe. So that's through a commission. Yeah. That's right. And then, yes, of course. Right. And then the other. Yes, the ninety percent of the they don't do that anymore. I thought you're asking about the contract. Right. I thought in the contract was for thirty five and thirty. And I lost, so I got thirty five. Right. There's a hard it was a hard night for thirty five. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's an amazing story. Join talking to we do whole show like this. I wish lived nearby that we can actually do, because it's different when you're face to face. But you're driving here. You did a great thing. They're veteran move, which I'll acknowledge all acknowledge you try to you didn't wanna talk about this anymore. You went for the water and you did the I enjoy you think now take the compliment it will boost my ego. And then we'll get off topic of you getting an offer not to show up the UC fight. I really have told the whole story. I just I know that, you know, I only know people just feel like my face crack while I doesn't such a good job. Not revealing the day. Where were you when you got the call in my driveway at my old house? Okay. Sitting. It's funny that you ask me that I know exactly where it was when you were blown away. Yeah. You married. No. Who's first person you told? That whole story to have hung up before it said. So and so guess what? Just happened to me. Probably yeah I do not likely would have been my mom because that story couldn't get out. You should know. No kami. I couldn't I couldn't tell you. Yes, I can tell you everything you would have been involved. He would have nodded inspired amazed. No idea what I und- believable. Wow. What a story that is. Do you ever regret it? No, no. You'd have been done. Then it would have never forgiven you for that one. You shouldn't forgive me. Right. Gosh, what a double cross them to the highest levels. Horrible thing. I have no call no show and. Oh my gosh. Easy. Do you know if they've ever offered anyone else this, you would have? No, I want to respect anybody that did that tried to ten million. Gave your word. And why do they hate why why would they so mad at that point? I don't know. They had a back and forth, a lot of people don't know about, and you might even remember that. I mean might Goldberger's. What's that date back to two thousand and five eight a big back and forth? Okay. Dalen Vince respect each other tremendously, especially publicly, but that doesn't I think they get very competitive. I don't have any evidence of surprise. I mean publicly there and they, they stay out of each other's we'll have. Okay. Neither one wants to it appears neither one wants the Dale ahoy Dana moment. Doing a good job with this bizarre. Vincent good job may stay at I, I personally believe, because they aren't each other's respect and it provident come the nice way. Okay. Fair enough. I personally do you believe believe believe at some point, one of them bucked up in the other answer? And they say I agree. It's just walk two miles. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. It seems the way that they do behave publicly is they earned a respect likely from about going to war. I've never seen them together. Have you ever seen that together? No photo op nothing. And you'd think at some point they would have run into this. They've, they've been together Dana came out publicly with a statement, longtime ago he was here to do SPN. Okay. Popped up there on expected to Venice. Yeah. Wow. That was actually about a production issue. One of its vice and did he take the meeting took the meeting and Dana had asked him questions about how he hung in the library know when you do a stadium show. How are you hanging? These production question. And they helped him I wanted to ask you about something. I hope you don't mind me asking patrons, then don't mind, okay? She posted a photo of her wearing an ATT shirt. Yes, What's that all about? She is a traitor and left. Jim's to AT. I figured now not quite our Jim is now an Jim. Okay. Just anything but a traitor. She's a wonderful teammate attention, there Gracie Baha, which is what we were import aggressive op is now under Dan Lambert's. That's it. It's now is the big news. Yeah, but same location. Same location. Same everything a little bit different schedule. And that's all it came down to his Gracie because it was a franchise requires a very specific. Schedule jujitsu based. And coach Bobby Shurmur goes, I've got so much going on. I can't I can't meet that criteria. Can you work with, you know, like we really can't if you're gonna be crazy, you have to do the schedule so ATT? Okay. So that mean on Friday, you'll wear an AT logo really. Career that weird I had forgotten till you just brought it up. I'm very happy. I will support the team this happened one week ago. Okay. Eight days to be precise. So Sunday of the previous week today's Monday. It'll be cool. It'd be cool. No problem. So all right. We'll your son come to this fight. It'd be there. No way. It's gotta rope since baby gangster, really where does robe first time. Yeah. He's been to fight s- before. Okay. If you go to the whole, it can be six hours in great seats, and with some popcorn and something to it's it doesn't work for kids age. So he will come to this one, he's going to watch it live. Yes. How do you feel about that? I'm excited excited be nice to see him. Is it a bit like nerve racking for you knowing that he's there? I don't think so he comes to a lot of the practices not all of them, but a lot of them. Okay. And eight to ten practices a week. He's four. So no, no, I'm used to. And then he and I got a fight every single night before he goes to bed, and he understands what's happening. Yeah. You don't think he'll freak out or anything he may? But no, I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. I think he'll under you offer to this to him, you said, would you like to come? I did not my, my wife is out here. And so we have no babysitter. Right. When we have no choice. Kids, the kids in the ring, and, and your daughter's going as well. She'll be at the it also has enough. It really it's, it's a very pretty it's a very pretty I love New York. She looks very unique knowledge them cowboy does I may try to. But I don't know where they'll be seated. I haven't thought about it 'til again. You're asking me questions. I didn't know well, this is a this is a big moment. Like while you're telling me, I'm an unsigned athlete with no home. I didn't realize this until I brought it up. You have kids loving wife. Yes. The big one shale wants deal. Yeah. Do you need me to help out? I feel like you're, maybe you're already helping Scott Mike. Hey, by the way, it's takes you overlook this guy in Gillette's on purpose? Yeah. No everything's great. They're wonderful. I won't in fact be. I should've brought you milk, right? Cut me this. Magnetic always that sometimes when guys are cutting weight. They don't wanna seafood or be around. I'm the opposite. I wanna know how that tastes. If you look happy. Is it happy? I love icing. It's people don't just eating the icing. Are you eight? Nice apprise. Good. I'm glad that it's good. Drink. Leave it here for later. Would you rather have a coffee or milk right now? Yeah. I'm not a big milk drinker. Really? Yeah. Even with even with a lot of a lot of cow dip dip like the Oreo or something really love coffee, though. Certainly it Oreos. No. Have you had an oriental only double stuff? If it's not double stuffed, I can't deal with it really is not enough. That's too much. It's like the double quarter Pounder. Remember the colorful. What is it is just it's just too much meat and cheese. Remember, the ones that were like yellow and blue those are fun. I that actually bothers me, why. Because the Oreo recipe came out of nineteen twenty nine in his never change. That's how good of a cookie while you knew the year. Yeah. That's right. And it's a now they have gone and got the gold, and then you've got the double stopped, and they got the holiday one and other putting peanut butter it, you can get some that are peaking too much. It's garbage original nineteen twenty nine same recipe, though, Masach black cream in the middle done. Thrilled that you like the double stuff quite stuff. But I haven't had in a while, you know corporate Jake, yes he's very nervous right now. He's sweating bullets. He's talking my year. We're going to long going to long he cracks the whip he wants to go. He wants the ratings to go. Idea. What Brit, Jay? He's not thinking about the corporation right now. It's he says he wants you to stay in Migo. That was a wonderful face Jake. That was actually really does great. You know, we did a live show of the show on Friday in Chicago. He'll that you sold out on that. By the way, everyone was like, I'm so happy corporate Jake's on here, but everyone said many miss you. They wanted you there. Hey, steep, a one that that's the prize. Thanks for spoiling it for everyone doggone it. How did you know he was not out? Well, I just wanted people to download the show. But how did you know that you listen? Yeah. But, you know who I would've thought would've one of that panel, Ben? You know. Oh he's good. He's very good. Paul. I would've said any just because he's the longest veteran up there. I thought any broadcaster and he travels around me goes from show to fellers great guests because of that crushed crushed. And I was shocked couldn't believe it. He undersold himself though. Yeah. He hustled, everyone join it because he's, I don't know trivia, enjoyed the show. I thought it was very good. Wow. Like the stage. I like the belt a walk you like the backdrop. Well, it's also like to eat into a circular. I like that. You were up here in the audience was appropriate way to theater style. All right. Well steer at a time. This has been a lot of fun built or to twenty since guard track. Around here chill Sunan against the ultimate cheetah ROY McDonald's against Neiman Gracie wanted to peddle a lot of question, Mark surrounding Mr. McDonald state, his back to I, hey, I agree with you on that. And what kind of state is naming it? I mean you can write you can write highs too high too in this. Right. Not all about just getting down. Whether you can get out of the rut, he's on a real high net Ruth. The co promotion. Yes, her Gucci, one of the best fighters in the world right now. Daryn Caldwell Dylan. Dana's Heather hardy. Aaron PICO feel Hawes going Robson Gracie. Yes. Off top of my head here. That was impressed. I it's a pretty. I will be there. The whole crew will be there. I knew you're going to want to see the whole crew will be there. All right, man will be there chill p corporate Jay come on out and meet him. Everybody that's right. Oh, I actually thought we were like fading up. Yes, there's with you, anyway. He'll wanting been so much fun chill. You can take my water. Safe travels and goodbye to the team. Thank you for the cupcakes. Why do you wanna take them back? You know, I love them unless you want them. No. I think it's a nice little. I think it's a nice look. It's a nice touch. No. I mean it seemed like you were trying to take back the gift. You know, by everyone take care. What a great crew. Thanks guys. There is chill p don't Dennis max Humphry. Edward Don Juan arch Aleta Darren called look, your Gucci Leona, Majia, gel son, and ROY McDonald Neiman, Gracie. How great was it to have chil- studio? Okay let's keep our guest, our next guest waiting much longer. Let's say Hello now to one of the very best female fighters in the world. She returned to action on July twenty seven th against Felicia, Spencer. She's the one and only Chris cyborg, there, she is Chris sorry for keeping you waiting Chris chill likes to talk a lot. How are you? I'm good. Thank you L. I'm very excited to hear to talk to you. Well, it's great to have you and you're right now correctly from wrong. Chris, you're in South Africa right now. Yes. I see what side you're perfect right there. Yeah, you're perfect. K. Okay. You know, I came first time to go in into south off the cuff came to work and have dip attended training dome edge team and have a lot of guys in my division. And they reach on Anguong and I love the train here in. No. And I think this second part why camp finishing my campy heat in South Africa. Okay. So you're going to stay from now, from when you got there all the way till the end of July, when you when you go to Edmonton is at the plan. Yes. Yes, we train hero. Ed start can start can't be California. And then I don't have a plan before defied, but that will have to come South Africa just going to eat into my next fight. What is it like over there in South Africa? You don't you don't hear from a lot of fighters who train out of there. I know have no match and to have a lot of good guys place, I trained have a good guys. And I'm learning I laud and a lot of young kids, you know, it's make me make me feel young again. And it's nice. You see in is shine about the mainly about the dreams and Detroit Haida really happy. This is the first time in well over a decade that you're going into a fight. Chris coming off of a loss does feel different for you. Do you know I think it just after loss to any to win, you know, item type fighter, I was tried to learn, you know, I never stopped learn. And, you know, I think the loss happened, you know, I never before I go to the cage to fight and everything. Okay. You're never gonna lost everything that before can have, you know, I always trying hard, and it'd be a wedding know so wins consequently for laws happened, just keep a work hide and be rainy. And the fighter can happen. You seem to handle the laws very well when it happened in December, but once you got home and you're out of the spotlight. Was it hard to deal with it? Did you harp on it? A lot. Did it affect you? You know it's, it's after like one week you think, you know, of course that flight that ended entity and like train, we use the plan to heads. You know, it's a lot of you think have all to drive seeks. But the reality everything happens for a reason in those data loss. Flu happen, you know, I was I pray God take care of everything. My in my life. And this Adele loss happen, it's because of one reason, and I showed a one day, we're going to see why. Okay right now. You don't know why though. Know I think I don't know. I know why I know but, you know, I keep for me how come why can't you tell us? I know I think it is can be for me. Maybe one day, okay? We'll guys can hear my one day when they have my discipline, maybe you guys can say. Look clear about something they'll Chris, you would like to fight, Amanda. Nunez again. Right. Yes, after my fight everybody saw conference, and they say that rematch. So why is Dana white saying that you don't want this fight? Funny. I was in home and watch, you depress call friends, and they can the believes then lied said in no, he knows. I him then a day after defied after deposed conference. I say, I want to rematch and he you know what the history do his tried history damage. My brand saying Chris scary Krizan wanna fight. No his type of guy say, I'm like one delays with dress is glide laughing when Joe Rogan say, I have is this type of guy and his goal mine Sam today, because when the Terai damage my brand, and it was done damage, my brain know, people follow me follow my beginning of my career in no way, I'm gonna know frayed anybody. No. I always rain. You hives and everybody. No, I asked would rematch after death flight Fano happen. Because e said, no. So do you feel like and also to be clear? You have not signed a new contract. Correct. This will be your last fight. Yes. And FOX was now really for fight for next fight, and Canada, with Lisa, you're going to be my last fight my contracts and denial. My manager's villa deal with with C because then refuse. My fly into my coaches fly from South Africa, you can that no end then swan is done light and depressed count and say, she's she's scared about fly them on the new and my manage to you didn't wanna pay like three thousand dollars the fly. And then now say ball, the won the rematch coming on son. If Assad vide posed it's Cam on. Is that so you have coaches from South African you're saying doesn't want to pay for them to come to, to, to Edmonton from South Africa to corner us that what you're saying? Yes. Well, what are you gonna do reality? I'm gonna Fe my old fly into my team fly. You know it's my goal just fly. Of course. So with this in mind, what you just said earlier, about the newness FAI do feel like this will be your last fight. You feel like the relationship is going to come to an end, regardless of what happens on the twenty seventh of July. And, you know, I hit a Lauda from see people work with see this crazy Banu you know, in Brazil people don't don't, don't always, you know, value in Brazil innovative for I want to feel like this LSU after my next fights, I have I have to wait little while. Euro be and I want I won't see on other promoters. I don't see how much have. No, I think school use seat that in no before before you can eat anything say, you don't value anything. Let's see to do another promote say that's for me. And because these I wanna do my next fight, and they had take little while and the see another things you want to test the market. Yes. Why not why not right? Why not if somebody if somebody at the house? Now, wives interview, ended, maybe put my shoes and, and now ending thinking you know why not why not take it's, it's a why not put in scummy, and they have Dipa tendency my that another promoters, you know, may I don't know. Well, it's always good to know how much you're truly worth and what your value is. And that's the best way to know it. So I think it's a fine idea. But I'm wondering if that is your plan do feel pressure. Like you have to win this fight, right? Because if you win this fight your value goes up if you lose you have less leverage. So this is a this is a truly must win situation for you. Correct. And, you know, I think you my values coming because after my last fight, I think he advocated for sports. It's like my legacy. I stay like ten years and defeat into I did laud ahead my force by won't to see before they came. You see, I have a website, Benicia behind me because the Dan, I went to my west then happy, then didn't campaign for me being lessee in our Ed have a lot of followers before. It was see, you know and. I just have to train. Hi de wet for my next fights. I don't think it'd be a no. And of course, I want to win my best to win. But I know God take ever Tino. And but I'm gonna train hide like all my fight. I do. And I don't think anything change about the loss to not know happen. It's five to one day you went into one day lost I noticed that you were at the all elite wrestling show in Las Vegas in late. May were you just there as a fan? Are you interested in actually working for them? Do you know I went there and it's very fun. I wanted to parents out through the morning and after nightime want to the show and into lot of cool people in other maize is hard. It's highly be progressively didn't work with hide inveterate let its athletics and you maybe no, I train before LeRoy B for C house work, but no, I might folks now it's Mike remake arena, but why not why not may have do pretend maybe people can't see maybe run their walls against cyber recipe. I feel you'd be a great pro wrestler. I feel like you, you have to have the strength of the look, I mean, I think you'd be amazing. This is this something that you've been interested in for a while. In the big challenge for me, big challenge. Okay. Like challenges, and what about your dreams of being a boxers, that's still something that you think about. The I had, like, like my after my next fight when the hearts, rainy and head to I wanna be little bit wild grub being decay, JR may have the opportunity for books five box flights ouster to Canada. No, my manager work on this and just waits for sue what's gonna happen, but no nothing yet, you know, I have to do just fought for my next fight, and wait the time and see what's going to happen. Did you see Felicia? Spencer's debut a couple of weeks ago. With mcgann? There's I watched that fine. What did you watch much? No, I think she's great five Xiang. She's couple of flights. You never lost before you know shoes. I think she's the real won't for the five, maybe I don't know. I watched a couple of fights heard she's good grappling. And she liked to kick to big would fight. I have a lot of fans in Canada. I think it'd be nice. So it's interesting because I think she's really good as well. But I think the rushing her, like I, I would have preferred her a couple more times before fighting someone like you do feel like they're making a mistake by putting her in there after one fight with you. No after her fight. She said, she said would like to me, and I said, no, I'm Eddie. I can the weight more nine months for fight in. I want to fight I'm have seventy years old with went to work all the time and made three times five full year. And I don't know you know, she's a septa defied accepted fight made should because you felt choose the webby. Okay. Fair enough. And so just to be clear after this fight because because I'd heard in March contract was supposed to be up. Is it like the day after this fight you're free to talk to anyone else, or is there, another period there that you have to wait and then talk to people in a lot of things going on now, but I can tell you, I have my next fights and after next fight probably going to be negative spirit and had to wait a little bit notes like. Wish own wish see and we're going to be like six months, working to remand. Let's see. Okay. When you look back at this point at your UFC career you look back at it with fondness do feel like it could have been better. You could have had bigger fights. You had the weird run at one forty. How, how do you view your run in the UFC as of right now? You know, a lot of things happen, who have see, like defied, everybody would like to watch like against run the Rawls never happen. And it semi guy say I'm scared to fire Monday rematch is descending guys save on. There was one fight me. Why did they find don't happen is no because need because I dropped will forty? I did the best. I can they make one thirty nine for their fights. And, you know, I think it did a lot of fights. See and a lot of fights no happen. Because they, they make like me against Michigan date me against run the Rosie me against GDR maybe rematch. If you Holly, maybe rematch with her mother in a lot of things, a lot of FIS don't happen defy defy the fans of the light. See. No. Just because he's because they didn't need their fights. You know, I think is a lot of fights people like to watch chill. And will you reach out to you? Your management to tell them that you do wanna fight Amanda that this isn't true. We've tried to clear the air clearing the right now but internally. Yes after defied defied this for rematch before I signed the U for fight Holly for five months. I said the like put out dometic rematch and my co my manage contact with Seve for should do the rematch and. You know, this ended done a sad, doesn't it man. We don't have the all fast rematch you know, she had to fight again. I'm going to have to fight again. Let's see what's going to happen. Do you think Amanda wants to rematch, or do you think she's part of the issues? Well. What I mean? Rematch me against her. Yeah. Do you think she wants it? Or do you think she doesn't want it? You know, she told me to wait two years, if I've said, whatever they want to she wants to do, because the less time, I'll wait nine months, and, you know, she's if she would like to fight the forces she, she can rematch soon, but for hundred for Washington, the rematch now she's on defendant flight one third five shoe shoe shoe on played games. She wanted to be champion the division and notion to play the game that C N westie no makers signed the chewed, the five she just signed a one fight won't Forty-five, right? And then can afford a fight either. What about getting to meet Ed Sheeran? I love at Sharon. How did that happen? I came to the show he in South Africa and really funded I know Cup amuse him. And like we like, but I have friends we love him. And we came to watch DVD's and very nice to meet him. Yeah. It's amazing. You've really been building up here YouTube channel. What's, what's the address of your YouTube channel again? Nationally cyborg. Chris eyeball Greece cyber. Yes. Nice to talk about is very cool. He just football. While the rematch if the water Nello, you guys gonna like I saw that is nice because the platform, making our channel because people don't know me outside. The cage is a very nice petunia for making more love for my fans and for no, who's the cyber who I am. And then Joe you know, we just passed flooded thousand people follows and have fun. I have fun doing videos and show. Little belove for my fans how difficult is that? How difficult try to squish the watermelon like Ben aspirin wants to. Nets hired rescue. I the champ about this. You know it's really hard times, and he's his about that. Maybe can won't be his me, but no easy. And you've also been working, I would Justin Wren, correct for the fight for the forgotten doing building the water wells in Africa that accurate. Yes, I went to Gunnedah. And do we put we went to piggy me strive? And I went over there that gives you put the two other wells. And they're working just is way. Amazing job of being amused. Thrived in tonight's teach Dan farm. Then teach it in get out to Joan going to leave in, in the CD Duca, and with the nice amend, is this thrift change my life. Wow. Trip to show me the strip show me, a lot of things that you can complain about nineteen. You know you wake up any morning who have amazing life you wake him? They wanted you'll have watering sink. You know, need to walk twenty thirty miles at twenty I don't know where and you know, changed my life a win. The Nys said Kim Chiu after my fight and help people in the C holiday ports, and you beauty word chain be very champs. Nice for you champion people's life. You know, make people remind member me just because I hold about. Because I do something. Nice for them came in. You are great person Chris, you do a lot of things for kids, you go. Visit the sick children. It's, it's amazing what you do your great role model and it's nice to see and hear that despite all the drama and the craziness and what happens you're in a good place. You're happy. You're getting ready for July twenty seventh I'm very happy to see that. I'm very happy to hear that. So I wish you the best training. Enjoy your time in South Africa. Chris good luck with everything. And we'll see you out there and Edmonton. Thank areo. Thank my fans that newly happy, go to Canada. Paul cyber nation be dead. And I'm back to the Cajun into my best and what I love to do. And that's when you hide into just wait for you guys, some Lavin. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Chris, we'll talk soon there. She is. Chris cyborg, approaching perhaps, the final fight on her UFC contract. We'll see how that all turns out, it has always been a bit of a rocky relationship, if you will, between the two sides, and I was surprised to hear that on, on Saturday. In all honesty. I mean, I think she's been very clear that she wanted the rematch and I don't understand why she would not want three Mechi doesn't strike me as to kind of person who would be afraid of anyone. She has fought anyone that has been put in front of her. So we'll see how it all turns out. It's, it's been interesting road. Chris, I Borg in the UFC and the potential last fight is July twenty seventh in Canada. Edmonton against Bush Spencer Spencer, got the show this detail. I've got I've got to give him this supposed to give him one of these and I forgot I wonder if we still here I guess I could bring it to New York if he's still here, I'd love to give it to him would be nice. All right. Thank you very much. Chris cyborg, in a matter of moments, I do believe we're going to be joined by the karate hottie Michelle Waterson. Get her take on the straw weight division. Get her take on where she fits in the whole title. Picture get her take on Tatyana Suarez all that and more later on. We'll be joined by king Mola wall and Calvin cater Henry, who does still to come so don't go anywhere. Let me tell you about our good friends over at ancestry DNA while we effort getting Michelle Waterson on the horn here. Ancestry DNA gives you so much more than just the places. You're from ancestry connect you to the places in the world. 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I hadn't seen my family in a while. So is good to hang out with their my needs just turned ten. So we did the Harry. Potter thing, you know, we're network owned by Disney. If you're in Florida, should've said that you're a dizzy to just sort of. The, the bosses here. But it's okay, it's okay we appreciate the honesty. I'm assuming you watched you to thirty eight this weekend. You know what I didn't get a chance to just got chance to watch the highlights of it. I was out here. Hanging out with my family and my, my niece and I wanted to give my full attention. Okay. I respect that even more. I appreciate that. I was watching, you see two thirty eight on Saturday night. And of course, there's this little race to see who will be next for the for the strawberry title, title fight, and I watched the Tatiana Suarez fight, and I tweeted moments afterwards, I said the big winner coming out of this fight is Michelle Waterson, because I felt like Suarez while she one and I know afterwards, he found out that she has an injured neck. And I still think that she's going to be a superstar and a potential future champion she's undefeated. She's very young. I just felt like she didn't put that explanation point. And then I felt like Michelle Waterson is the one and then to my surprise, the post FAI press conference, Dana white is asked about you, and he was like, Michelle Waterson. What she she's she's lower. I was like, what's, what's going? On here. Explain to me. What is going on here? There has to be more to the story. Dana, we've had a great relationship. I respect him. I think he's really busy. He has a lot on his hands. He has take care of a lot of fighters. And at the end of the day, he's probably given a breakdown or lineup of the fighters and just a list of the rankings, and he talks about the fighters that way. And in my opinion, if you're looking at the ranking, my opinion, I think the rankings are and. I feel like I have a great case against me, especially after what you just said. We're going off the last performances. Now. Tetiana is facing people ranked in the top ten and we see what happens when you start facing high-ranking girls, the competition becomes more steepen and it's hard to pop off. Good solid dominant performances the higher the competition. Okay. So do you feel like you're still? So basically, was I right. Are you the winner from Saturday? One hundred percent agree. I don't think it was enough to showcase that she was ready for a championship title fight. I feel like from what I've heard all my teammates and coaches back at home. Text me right away and said you got this in the Bank, whatever it is, you get the bell, and if they make you fights Yana than you got touchy on a two. They're just they see hole in her stand up. They see hold on a ground. Hold on a wrestling. In Meridian ready to take it, by the way. I think that's the first time I've ever heard you cuss before. It was incredible. It was the most amazing thing. I didn't know the karate hottie head that in her repertoire. That just shows how mad you are. You said the S word I you know, I reached the point in my career where if I'm not. It's hard to be humble when you fought for close to thirteen years in any just take whatever fight is given to you. You know, hoping that you can just earn your way up the ranking and then stuff like this happens where you went in fights in a row, you my last was super dominant. I want authors Lowndes real decisively. And I go down. And ranking it's just really confusing and to me frustrating. The rankings are mess. I agree with you. I don't even know who those people are to be honest, even know if they're real people, I don't even know if they're actual human beings who do those rankings. It's a bizarre thing. So I wouldn't put too much stock into them, but I thought another thing that was interesting that he says, like she does want to return until September October. I mean to be honest, it's June and they've got the July cards filled up and then we're talking about August, and that pay per view, essentially filled up as well, the one with DC so then we're talking about September October. I don't understand what the problem is there. Can you explain why he said that? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know what the answer to that is. I think that they might want to try to use me for something sooner than that, but I have my ice on the gold, and I feel like anything else that I take is going to keep me in the same spot that I'm in, and I think I just have to take a page out of its uptown at the book and just go for number one so that I can get the shot. Did you reach out to him after that? Okay. I don't know if my husband has are not though, he's the one that takes care of a lot of that stuff. But I'm going to the thing is fighters. They're gonna take whatever fight if given to them. And that's why it's to your manager to, to be on the business end of it and take care of all the other stuff. Dana knows that. I want the the shot. I mean, I've been. I've been going around talking to everybody about it hosting at us utilizing my own social media. It's tell people why want at why think I'm deserving of it, and I don't think I am out of place by asking for it is a little bit exhausting to just worry about the fighting and all that stuff. Now you have to go on this almost like this campaign to convince the world that you should be next. But I feel like at the level that I'm at this is what I have to do. Okay. So it's not something that you, you are too annoyed by you get. It's part of the territory, so to speak. I think so. And I guess I can kind of be a bit proud of that, that I have reached that level where now there has to be a bit of negotiation. There has to be a little bit of. All right. Well what do we do now? And, and that's what we're at. How will you react if they don't give it to you? I'm still training. I'm still fighting about if they don't give me the belt. I, I want number one number two, and that's rose, who has obviously already spoke about wanting to take a break, and I commend her for that. She's honest with herself and really hard for fighters to do that nowadays. And people don't understand like when you're fighting at that caliber, of taking those caliber fights how, how much stress it can be on you on your family on your spouse. And so, you know, she's just being honest with yourself in the next person after that is China. So if they don't give me the belt at least let me Tutsi on a fight for who gets to fight for the bell, even ask you for that. You're not showing away from Tatyana. It seems like a lot of other photos are. No, not at all. Especially after this weekend. Right. You weren't impressed by what you saw. No. And also. You know, when you get to the caliber, we all have the same amount of set skills, I feel like a town has done a great job at utilizing her strengths to win the fights. But, but now at the level that she's broken through she has to face, you know, she has to be able to understand what it takes to get past. Your first answer. If you I shut down what happened with your second answer, and I do understand injury. But injury is a part of every fighters fight camp. We all we all go through it. It's not something like out of the norm. You feel she's over hoped. No, I think that she is she's good. But I do feel like. A lot. I don't think they should be. Like comparing her to be not that long ago. Yeah. I think wrestling is really good. But this is and you know, obviously the longer that she's in the Marshall, grow and get better. But at this moment, I don't think that she's ready for championship light, okay? You were in Brazil, you saw the drudge. I'm Eunice fight in person. What did you make obviously on drudge won the fight? But let's be real. She did not win the first round rose. Look phenomenal in the first round. What did you make of her performance overall? You're absolutely right. I feel like Rosa's winning a couple of shots more. And I think that it would have been TKO for rose. I think that it was great on, on judges parts. Go back into your corner. Don't take a deep breath, reca- the herself in and go up there. She knew I think that if they went five rounds it was going to be tough night for her. So I think she knew she had to finish it, and finish it the best way she knew how, which is with a pile driver signature move. But when you saw the did your confidence, I take, like she's not the boogie woman that everyone is making her out to be right. I mean, I think we all saw that when she fought you wanna, and I think Rogge's took a page out of a book only difference. With Rosen Yuan is rose likes to takes risks and times. And that's because she's really confident in her jujitsu and unfortunately it didn't play out for her that time, but hinted, the day we all do really, just we read the same believe the same blood. Yes. And Joshua tied. Yes. She is really good with no take down. It's a fight right? Anything can happen in a fight. And you've been looking amazing as of late. Are you injured by the way or are you hundred percent? One hundred percents my family in training to get better every day. So this idea that, like you're asking for more time off or anything like that, not true. Asking for time off. I'm asking for the right fight. You want the proper fight you wanna fight for the belts you wanna proper training camp? You wanna get what's yours. You want to get what you deserve. What you earn. I do. I think it's. There's just so many people behind me, so many people that believe in me. You know, I've struggled I've gone through the ups and downs. I know what it's like to be a champ. I thought five around fights before I've defended my belt, I fought for a main card in the UCI fought for the biggest fight on the UFC. I will rise to the Cajun. Give me a chance. Let me be US's mom champ. That's all I'm asking. I mean, you've been pushing for that for a long time, and that really means a lot to. That's not just like a gimmick hashtag, this is something that you really want, you want to be the first mom champ in UFC history. Why does that mean so much to? I know how much sacrifice parents, put into their children, and I want to give parents all the round the world something to be proud of. Getting emotional now. A little bit. Don't pie aerial. Oh, I was just letting you do your thing, I was just letting it all come out. It's raining outside, you know. Yeah. That's what it is. No. But this, I appreciate the fact that means a lot to and that it's never been done. And this is like you said thirteen years, and I remember not that long ago. They thought your career might have been over with all the injuries the hand injuries and that you wouldn't be able to realize your dream of fighting and having a UFC run, and now you're on the cuss. And they're saying that what Michelle Waterson, she's to rank no show. Waterson deserves it. I'm here to say. I'm on your side on this, Michelle. Right. I will be honest. I thought of Tatyana did something spectacular maybe she'd get the nod. But I don't feel like that happened on Saturday. And that's no knock on her. She's very young. It just wasn't the kind of performance that you need to tell everyone that you're next. And that's why it should be you. Absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yes. What do we have to do you need me to call Dana for you? What do you want me to do? Yes. Personally just you know, put them good work for me. Okay. No. You don't want that to happen. Actually make things worse for you. But I, I hope it happens and up until this point, there's been no talks no negotiations. No nothing reached out about it. I don't know. You're not asna has been about that. Where's your husband? I feel he's like two inches away from me right now. Oh, hey, Josh are you. Good. Not right away. Well, I mean, the headphones kinda gave it away, 'cause it was just sort of dangling on the other end. What can you tell us about that? So no just everything sessile is, is accurate. Right. We're waiting to see what happens. I'm with you on on everything. I've heard in some of the highlights that I've seen to Kiana didn't do enough. I I'm with you. If she would have completely dominated, I think it would have been tough, and we would have definitely had to wait. But right now. No based off of that performance in my opinion. Who, who else would would make a good fight right now with Andros like me, Michelle agree. If rose wants rematch. She deserves it for sure. But it sounds like rose wants to hang out relaxed forbidden. We understand that. So who else? Yup. I agree. Yeah. And that, of course, is, I guess the big question all this, and I thought when Dana was saying that at the post fight press conference, maybe they were going to try to get her to come back. But by all indications she wants time off, and I think she deserves it. That was a scary fall. And sometimes, I think would be good for the soul. And if they want on drudge to come back quickly. There you are waiting ready, ready. One hundred percent we'd be up for it, and it wouldn't have to be September, right? We'd we'd get coaches right away and happen in August. Right. But no. I think on drugs to is probably gonna wanna fight. I'm assuming. September October, maybe even December. But yeah, no, no. There's no we're ready to go. If that fight was presented. We'd be ready to go right away. All right. Well, I appreciate you guys clearing the air here today. And I also know you're on vacation, so I appreciate you doing this in the midst of it all, but it was a good time because it was raining. There's not much to do in Florida when it's raining, so I don't feel as guilty as I richly did nonetheless. I appreciate the time, and you guys coming on and clearing the air, and I hope it works out truly in your favor because you guys deserve it. Thank you, and one of them raptors. Yeah, about them. Raptors are boys on minorities probably all hyped up right now. Right. Of course he did it right now. He did the fight mom documentary, which is phenomenal. So the Carter affect about Vince Carter, and did you guys ever see that one? Did you guys see that documentary? It's great, right? It's amazing. I actually watched it last week to, to remember how far the team has come. So, yes, we're gonna do tonight guys, we're going to do it. And we'll be out there in August. Hopefully we can celebrate with all of you guys. What do you do in August here? I am with my flight. Seminar in Calgary to raise money for nonprofit Emma may programs that's put together with wink and his wife a lot more news out here in the next couple of weeks. Okay. Cool. All right. Joy your vacation again. Thank you very much for the time. And good luck getting that fight. We got your back. Thank them. All right. There she is the karate hottie Michelle Waterson. Her lovely husband, Josh Waterson. And those are my thoughts I put them down on paper on ESPN dot com. Earlier today. It just didn't seem like she had done enough Tatyana think she's phenomenal. I think she's going to be a future contender, but it didn't exactly while the crowd then you find out about her neck injury. And you understand that being said, Michelle's on a roll roses the big question, Mark if she wants to come back, I think she deserves it because of how good she looked. Michelle's ready to go. Chill p come back. I wanted to give you this. I'm sorry for making come back. But a nice, man named Brandon made this for us. He made us this man. Yeah. Custom-made. There's only three of these holy smokes. He made this for us. And I thought it would be great to give it to you. And they told me that I could give it to the week. But I'm gonna forget tremendous just like us. Can I tell you one quick story because you gave me this and I feel like I have to say something I ordered a bobblehead of myself doll. When was I made is very exciting moment, I ordered it on EBay it came. I looked like dominant cruise, but I get it put it away in my office, sat out about a month later sending my and I look at it across it was dominant crew. I ordered the wrong one, but I thought that it was you get it looks like Brandon to know this is fantastic. I'm very hard to do. It's a beautiful thing is Brandon ever. Did it? I could leave Lee wants to come back. Please take all the cupcake. I felt like she wanted it with right? Did I read that wrong on? What are we taking him back? Listen, but enjoy all this, and then all women two and a half hour. Right. It's a whole big thing. It was an awkward exchange because I felt like she thought that I was going to give it back. Right. My wrong, you're wrong, right? Totally wrong. She just wanted for the set. I don't know what she wants taking one of each take four of each one hand. Well, you could come take him to, to you and Brandon, wonderful job. And thank you. All right. Okay. Good. Bye. Take take one of each yet. Do you want more than two? Are you? Sure. What about your mom? What about your father in law? All right. Bye-bye. Okay. Oh, good for him does any curves. I'm gonna put my back here. Enjoy the cupcakes guys. Now we have a little bit of a whole here on the desk. I'm going to close the gap. All right. Matter. Moments or a matter of seconds. Let's say Hello to my favorites in the business. We go from one of my other favorites to the man himself king Mola wall who announced his retirement seven days ago today, and I said to myself, all right? I know it's seven days, but we gotta have mom, and this is how big of a deal, this is king mo-, I do believe has never done by show via Skype. He refused. I said, king MO, you, retire, you come on via Skype. So thank you for doing it because I know you didn't want to. Oh, good. You know, I got you, my man, king MO, well, congratulations on a great career mo-. Why did you retire now? Man Tschumi injuries. I can't train the way I want to, you know. And I just I just couldn't my body looking recovering. I just I just can't do it. No more man. And then top of that, I would I got the feel like I saw ROY McDonald doing energy after a fight state. Now, they wanna hurt nobody and I might damn I feel the same way. Oh, is weird. Because when I was younger, I was like mama smashes do on my heard him. And then like recent Mike, you know it if I can just be them up and just stop in stopping, but I want hurting about it. Got the point where I just didn't wanna hurt. Nobody that. And my body's beat up this old man. Wow. So when ROY said that it really spoke to you. Spoke to I'm hoping ROY, I'm hoping ROY had a bad day 'cause I think is great editor and I know he's very young in the sport. I'm hoping he's had a bad day. He's not feeling that because that's how you, wow. How long have you been feeling that way for? About a year and a half. Wow. So you multiple times feeling that way. Yeah. Just is we're might now I want I wanna leave hurt Nobel engine body because a really almost also injured in practice houses worried about outweigh about myself injured. So I was like Maggie. No, I gotta be smart for myself. And that's how we're about myself get into so much by engine other people as well. So I just got to pause like, no it out. Enough harm people. No more man, I'm gonna try she'll mammy legs teach Ness about it. When you start to feel that way, you've been competing for so long. I in wrestling now, now, an MA does that kind of play tricks on your mind? You're like, whoa, what are these feelings? This is just a complete shift from how I used to feel. Yeah. Man. I think you feel like that it's time except the game because, you know, you're stepping into the cage or the rain or the field or whatever you're doing with somebody wants to harm you. There's once a knock you up that wants to break your bones, you should be going to the cage or the ring on the field digging that used to be somebody not harm them as well. The moment that the moment that we start feeling like that is a moment just about the game. And I started having them as well as injuries my by night here in bags passed. And now I've been losing weight man. Just getting old, okay. Mold man. How old are you? Eight thirty eight and you're young thirty eight. I've had probably had over forty surgeries forty forty? Yeah. Damn. When was the last one? Last one was my minor. Hip in when did you have that years ago? I didn't tell them by I had Birmingham. So right now I got all of my hip Quin jacket by a winch LA had cedar done. I'm the first combat athletes, come back at a high level. I guess. This seizure done. So now I had metal. You. He'll all of my right? Hip. It's you have actually fought with this a couple times. Three times with damn. And how do you feel different? Yeah. Different night is because if I go anyplace where it's like seventy alone, I could feel the metal in my hip own. My gosh. Is crazy management. Abu running for five moon, I feel clanking. I hear I hear clanking middle. My hip is that just due to wear and tear. Well, it's the surgery. No, no. I mean like why did you have the surgery where tear? Man. Okay. I was going on. What about quitting Jackson? The second time I had two cores shot in a week span, and it didn't do. And then afterwards you have to have it. Yeah because accurate. I went to wrestlemainia landowner. It was a great time. But I I could really what I was struck and getting around. That's what new magazine. Certain tire got the surgery done. I feel good. But I could feel the metal it's we I could field member. My hit. Moon is we know what? So your last fight was, in late, April for Reisen when you left that night, did you know that was it for you? You know what? Yeah. I was I was I was up in the air. But I was like, you know, be it because you know, I can't jog. I can't I can't really can't be spread. I can't jump. Athletic ability. I had the way the niece certain the hit certain is in static fiction. So I just last started the add man, and I can't trade while chino more. Thank man. So I just met like knows that name. Okay. And you leave with regrets. No, man. You know, the by games a fight game man. We all have regrets, and we all the same time, like I don't care what I'm saying. I'm saying much Ogle. Now's this me to help others. Get them where I got. The fact that you never got the fight in the UC. Because Mullane go in you. I always say mangoes have fun get champion. Get paid. I never was never stuck on youth. Seen knows I just wanna come into good and get paid man. And I'm like, quick chat team because the while team go ship really freight tree. They Hinson meta. Shankill Ranko, tiller mandolin those the guy that looked up to the hammer house to teen. Kind of maybe more instrument in Japan. The innate e Tom knows bar, say society them because they don't get never spent they'll get talked about, because they were the first to wave of world class wrestlers step foot into the cage. Right. Amen to that one hundred percent so you mentioned you don't have that same desire to hurt someone. But it sounds like you're going to stay in the sport involved in the sport as a coach and your sensually teaching other people how to hurt other people. So how do you how do you juggle that? Well, it's cool. I could teach you oughta harm somebody, and you do it. I'm cool. But it's just me. I'm not cool doing myself. I'm not I'm not about hurting nobody, I think all the fighting has gone on all the competition like all the wrestling all the it's not anymore. I'm like, I'm just chilling now man, you know this about it chilling watch film, watching sites, and I'm, I'm gonna, but the future can do with America's team. I wanna see the youth America team. Take take take. Game a whole different level. So you're, you're gonna remain as a coach at ATT in south Florida. Oh, wow. You're going to be phenomenal coach. You're one of the smartest guys I've ever met in this sport. I think this is perfect for you. Thanks right now. I'm behind the future is we coach Conan. Yeah. Ma'am. People might Brown dis Marco. We have a we have a highly the best coaching staff, inmate and at the same time I underrated. I agree. I couldn't agree more. I think Mike Brown has turned into one of the best coaches in the game. The other guys that you mentioned dean Thomas. Steve MacOS phenomenon I saw a picture with him and just recently, that's that's huge for destined to have Marco by side you as well. Now in the mix, it's incredible. And so, have you already started working with anyone there, any young guys young, females anyone that you're really excited about have you already started to forge those relationships coach student? I've been fortunate over the past two years, okay? Is is only reveal the name some high level similar because when it comes down to it as a coach with knee is more at the fighters. So if anything the fires mentioned that most working with the mess cool, but for me the most part, I'm not mentioning names. Let's the fires Mitch my name flirts. Okay. Not like that. And we'll just be your full time job. So right now I enjoy into Jim, I enjoy Washington's guys worked. So right now a fulltime job as coach America team. Okay. I love it. You look back at your career so many great moments, there's, there's one that comes to mind for me. But I'm wondering for you. Is there is there, one moment that sticks out your favorite moment? The happiest that you ever were. Now happy. Happiest but I tell you this man lights, when moment okay win the belt, we talk like I'm when the Bill it was bigger sleep, because even when I didn't care like my main, my main dream was a win the Olympics man. And, and when I think about that, she said, because I came short and that, that was my main biggest dream Olympic champion became a world champion may. But I felt like I wanted more in amateur wrestling. You're talking about the moment in Nashville, after you beat Giger, Mussa, correct. And you're lying down the you're saying that, that's your favorite moment. Women moments. That's why I realized really m as shorts her make believe in the sense. It's not your real, right? What you do to push yourself and to, to challenge yourself. But when it's all said, dance I'll say done such a real life is just fantasy. So that might be my favorite post fight interview ever. I showed the clip. Yeah. I, I posted I posted the clip a couple of weeks. I don't know if you saw it you were lying down. And you were very motion, Casey. And I were in the back in Nashville on their forget that because we didn't often get to go in the back to interview, the fighters right after, and you could tell how much the moment meant to. And you said that you're always second place, and you never got that big one. I'll never forget that for as long as I live. I'm so grateful that you let us have that moment and let us be part of that. So I'm kind of blown away that you even remember it to be honest. Amera meant air. Member member in Ohio. Really? Running and. A real press. Not because it's true man I right now. The media's gone. Right now. It seems stronger song. Like what's going on? With ima media, I more knowledge in this, too. Wait music going. Alfred and the made me sharp. Great. I'm glad to hear that you still watching wrestling these days. Man, you Awa that's Fiji. Moxley. I'll gladly age alma watch more granted, they have great athletes, but on their impacts in a w is where it said what about new Japan? He but I said Japan. Okay. They're all they all worked together. You know, AAA, they're all in the same, same mix. You actually watch impact for real. Watching the matches. I know people are in really match. I tune in to watch the matches you. I'm saying, okay. It's hard to catch. On, on to how do you think your boy Kane is going to do in AAA? Came into school. I think it'd be all right. Listens. Yeah. Good coach saw him the ropes that somehow the rules laser stuff. That'd be. All right. You seal bond did is wanna do do. A Matt reels in the bay seeing the basin. Four more after. Now's topping emanates jump into a wrestling, and instantly cyborg was at the W showed. Did you see that? Yeah. Asking tweeting aid. Our eight bedding. Bingo head puts out awesome Kong attention. Oh, yeah. Ain't nobody. So when I asked you about maybe some grits, like, are you regretful over the fact that the, the wrestling career didn't work out for you? Well, you know what? I still do the do independent shows, I got matched to, to. Wrestling realizing booking. I do. I'd be maximum shot. The w. Pablo out there. They're going to school in my in my again cleaned up. Yeah. But I'm been my goal is to be a jobber. Eighty to really kick. You take a super can hangman pay me. Hey, whatever. Man eight eight. If you're watching, I'll be the problem. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. I was gonna say Brooklyn brawler iron Mike Sharpe. Barry Horowitz, like one of those jobbers, but the ones that come up from time to time England cat weasel. Yes. Rogers shots Rogers to rescue coast, Rogers out there in the OB, Debbie shock. Oh my gosh, this could you? But I think you're famous to be that guy like, like it's too big of a deal for you to shop. You're not just some random schmo. No. It's not change, though. Oh as matter of fact is new wants ones. Casting orange Cassidy, okay? And it's a dip Assad is not wrestling. Okay. Pretty he can work. It's pretty funny orange casting orange Cassidy, you're watching you're watching more wrestling than MMA, these days, I feel like. I was both. I watch them all. Okay. And the may pro wrestling boxing on watching it. Oh, yeah. My guy Andy REEs. You saw that, right? I watch crazy injuries. I cope, it him years ago. When Elijah McCall avocado son watch them at the New Orleans atop rank car wash them. Now might this guy special now beat Joe Hanks next fighting I just partnered New Zealand. I thought this by anti Josh was anti, Josh is listening. To be Andrew. Tizoc near Andrew wings. I think him and they'll just been the deed, as all Mexican, though, the best combination of right now, you're seeing that just have been this. I was like, wait, one of these guys not like the other Cheyenne shot be. Yeah. Hands. He will watch him more. You're the man I could talk fighting with you all day. But unfortunately, we're out of time. I really appreciate you doing this most. Specially doing it on Skype because why are you so camera shy? You never liked to do it on Skype. I just like no no, no. I just as fast as call. How hang up did you actually? Download Skype just for us. I doubt Lescot Skype. Last night. Yeah, this is one of the great honors of my life right here. That king MO actually downloaded Skype just for us. That's amazing. I gotta same in when you came out back to the days, send Goku with the umbrella and the girls and all that stuff like you brought showmanship to this game. You brought fun to this game. I remember team thirsty GDP all that stuff. More the crowd? I mean look, it's a hudo so who does doing what you were doing. Ten years ago, my man, you were doing that. Exact same thing. He's taking a page out of your playbook. And so I hope the game remembers you and treat you on that you can impart some of that knowledge, what you did in the cage. But also, you did out of the cage to get people to care about you to some of these new fighters that you're working with, at AT, the younger fighters, and you're always so good to me on their forget. When you said that I was like I was working for FOX for one week when you said, and they're all like this fighter just said something about you at the press covers, you may me seem like the coolest guy in the world and I'll never forget that. So thank you for everything. Thank you for everything men. Congratulations on great career a great run. You have nothing. To be regretful about, you've had an amazing run. And I hope that you have a great career as a coach. I have. No daniel. And you should be a media guys. Well, you've always been that good. So I hope you get to do more of this stuff as well too. Hope I chance Matt thank all right? 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How are you? I'm doing good are aria. How you doing? I'm doing great. Congratulations. On the win. Are you still in Chicago as well? Yeah. Yeah. I'm here to Tuesday. What are you doing over there for so long? I had a lot on the list that I wanna do, but never really know. Things things are going to play out. You have good idea, but I pushed my flight back Tuesday. So hit Wrigley field yesterday. The, the hut dog spots around here, the deep spots, I got a whole crew. So they've been writing reviews all week to help me. I get it all in by Tuesday. Have you had any of the pizza yet? I have I have luminaries seems to be in the lead is the front runner is now. How about you? I didn't have pizza this time around, but I did have luminaries in the past. It's very deep. It's very thick the pizza. I don't know how I feel about on us. Yeah. And then a couple of slices probably hurting. But that's something you can't really omit when you visit Chicago, you always gotta tell me how to deep dish, how many I feel like they take offence to it? They do. They're very sensitive about it. How many trips to the pizza places did you go to this time so fat, I can't tell you that I can't tell you. But I last ship Martin, they had us leave at like seven AM eight and the next morning me. And font both got held up in Montreal missed flights. It's tough Manta to leave on a Sunday morning after those events, usually have family, friends fly in from all over, you want to spend some time with them for, you know, hitting four or five AM at the earliest, and now you've got a pack up and leave in two hours after getting in a fistfight. We might have some things bruises, right? No, it's good. You're taking some time off and I appreciate you doing this in the midst of your, your time off. By the way. I wanna give a shout out. I don't know who they are. But two, I guess of your friends cornered me in the hotel on Thursday afternoon. Do you know about? This and they said, yo, when are we going to get Calvin on the show, and then I said, well how about if he wins and they said, all right? It's a deal. So I just want to let the record show that I'm a man of my word. Yeah, I can't confirm or deny that. But I'll make a call. And make sure we take off the hound dogs. Right. I appreciate it. Because they were a little timid eating. Yeah. You know, get sometimes out here, Boston, man. They don't if you say you're gonna do something, you don't do it. Yes, they might find you for not doing it. But now that's cool. Man. They say you're good sport. I gotta be honest to. I had a little chip on my shoulder. You still interviewed me yet. And I'm always looking for ways to get a chip on my shoulder. I wonder if I got your respect yet that maybe you're gonna interview next time we'll here you are. You're on my show. What this, it's not just you. It's not just you if you know what the media day. I'm enjoying it in my head. I'm telling myself, I'm Nakas sky out, these future media scrums. I'm not gonna sit down actually enjoy my lunch like I did. So I actually found a lot of enjoyment chilling out lax in not have my hands full with a bunch of but at the same time zone like that won't be like that in the near future. Okay. So you know what I'm happy that you said this Calvin, I truly am. Let's, let's be honest here because I've tried to tell the people around me that, look, I feel like I need to talk to everyone on media day because people take personally, when I don't like you saw me media day. I didn't have time talk to you, and you said beyond that you said, if that guy, right? You said, screw that guy to everybody I say to everybody at the time it comes out on the phone Mahabir nice day, but. Yeah. No, it's good man. Any reason to get a chip, like I said, but it's great to be talking. I appreciate you. Having me on the show. Okay. Cool, by the way, do long long overdue, but we're here now my bad. My bad here. I am I'm making. Are you a Bruins fan as well how yeah baby game seven, wow? Get my ass, sweets. But I gotta let Connor yet. But I know. Yeah. Maybe uncle Dana hook you up your to Boston guys, maybe queue up. Did you ask him? That could be. My phone is Senate didn't get the other night. But allow. But, but being able to fight you know like the UFC off the renegotiation team came down there. And I couldn't be happier fight for anybody else now. No best orgnization the world. Well, how Kelvin's got a few chips on his shoulder. I like it. I respect it. Yeah. You see some supplement show at sei pumping emulator. Tom Brady get sick Super Bowl rings them. What's his favorite? He said the next one, you know, how's that guy, not complacent? Find always want everything. Right. That's a good point. So did you recently resign? I did before the last fight thankfully, so after the fish will fight iron my contract. I got a four fight deal. And what a way to start off the first fight of the four fight contract incredible. Yeah. You walked in there and I loved about a great performance against veteran, Chicago guy, the place when so quiet afterwards. If you notice that did you? Honestly, what I noticed more than the silence afterwards was how loud cot when they when they announced him. And it was great man. I was just like no, I wanna be a part of whether it's a side of the decide bring fans out of the seats and putting on a good show for also I felt like we did that and I could have done it without a guy like Ricardo to fulfill that stadium in energy going in the wrong for me to then. Silence. It beautiful finishes world, the left hook, and then the right and you said something afterwards about how it seemed to me in correct me if I misinterpreted this, the you feel like for the most part, like the boxing MMA, the boxing in new of is sort of elementary, and that you've been doing this for a long time, and you're doing stuff that isn't super complex, but you're just really crisp on your feet and now you're able to show it off. Is that what you're trying to say that you're just a better boxer than a lot of these guys in even with just like the basics because a lot of these may fighters? Don't focus on boxing or don't have that knowledge going into the game. I'd say basics always win fights in anything, really, don't talk about the basics and repetition, and consistency of them. But I would say these guys are elements of oxygen. And if they are the ones that aren't think that's just because they're choosing stay at that level. You know there are guys that in the division. They have great hands that could probably be very successful boxing. Probably take out a lot of boxers. But at the high highs in the level, they are different sports. I always compare it to like running. There's a sprinter in America today, both run, but it's just different sports. But I think there's a happy medium when, when you talk boxing MMA that I don't think that these guys are really just getting in work with the boxers, the guys at punch, the best they wrestle with the wrestlers. They do ju jitsu jujitsu guys. But, and then they do some stand up with, you know, maybe kickboxing, feel like due to my experience of the boxing, I felt like I'm able to deal with some of the hottest shots taking giving. Ideally, get him but yeah. Ex- around man. There's no way around. You gotta get the rounds in. And I feel like that's a big advantage. I have against these guys, so you had a ten ten winning streak and then you met Connell. Last April drop that one since then to finishes that loss change anything in you. How did you react to that? You know, the piss me off definitely hates lose more, and I love the win definitely made me experience those feelings again and I'm happy to get that my mouth, the last two fights renegotiation was huge, especially after my first L one time and two hundred to one out the. I felt like that would have been close in the chapter of the book a little too soon. And I, I was I didn't want to let that go. So that was that was pretty amazing itself. But after that, fight really what I took from, from the flight was what kind of lost by a take a look now at where he is. He's headlining con against the Koreans on the chamber of Albany. He was ranked higher than me. Today's bill. After big on the cups Swanson. So the else don't define it's how you act after. And I feel like we've lost back strong as well, and we're climbing top, and it should be make for an interesting finish line. You mentioned something in the post fight interview that I wanted to ask you, you talked about a friend of yours who passed away last year. And you were giving people some advice about speaking up if they were going through any personal issues, could you tell us a little more about what happened? Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. His name's Joel gigli Audie, who's my growing up my best buddy and just last month, we lost him. And it just home of it more. Like I said to get chip on everything a chip on my shoulder to everything because day in day out way what can aiding they control it in the Arctic on, you know? And it's how you deal with that, that matters day in day out in happens all Kampman, every, every can't some new realize that, you know, can break you, if you don't respond to it, right? So. Joel. I'm finally able to kind of process. It more was really had my shield on can't, but I wanna earn the opportunity to grab the mic afternoon. Just express that, you know, vote great to have that opportunity to say and just saying, his story just if you're going through addiction, you're struggling make it's up to seek out because it's not it's your family and friends that are carrying the weight your grief. So. Now we see him one day soon. But until then. And put it on all these featherweights. And, and I know he'll be in my corner. Was that something that you were planning on doing or did it just occurred to you in that moment? No, I really trying to wanted to amend a lot to me to have that opportunity. But you only get the Mike when you win. Right. So first things first, I had a handle business. And, and I find a lot of ways to get chips on my shoulder all week and. Get the job on earth. The opportunity to pay respects do on ESPN house, nothing's better than that, man. And from my mom, she's been there in my corner, since day one, and I was happy to, to just have a checkpoint small, and brief checkpoint knowing that. Hey, we're on ESPN baby climbing. Yeah. I noticed you mentioned that you also wanted to see your highlight on sportscenter. And I think you got that, that ten Mark as well. Correct. Hell yeah, Donna, that's here that since I was a kid, man. It was awesome. It was really surreal, Chicago's mcbrayer, all week, everything folk great kind of weird, and it's always weird when that happens, but it's feeling more calm and air. I was I must say yawn. Two hundred times back on, like, man. We wake up, you gotta get a fistfight rain on I don't know. I'm a little more relaxed in there, not to say take anybody or opportunities light. But it's feel more comfortable man, and it's good feeling and competition, stepping up pay. Wrapping up and risk them. Obey gets off on excited. It's very opportunity in front of me. Is it possible that the loss? Maybe made you comfortable took a little pressure off of you. Could be fair to say that I always put a lot of pressure on myself every time I step in there and, and really for a lot of weed reason sometimes I know all the people had a support the in in watching the fight right now. I wanna solve come up and win. I picked not the place. That's watching my flight sitting at the table. They might dependent on whatever support in the flight and killing the party at, like twelve at night, now going to keep that going. I want these guys Ambaum with pop and balls. All over all over, you know, wherever I'm at Boston city, every, so I like to keep the night, Goma man. And this has been a fun run. I'm excited to be on it, and teen cater Cain. Mania come with me every saw. And it's it's been an awesome experience, especially since like I was saying seems like everybody all get together for. These days is weddings and funerals. And this is just not really come together and have a hell of a week man. Everyone comes fight leak and supports who do you want next? The great question. It's really nice to not give a shit. I don't I don't care who it is. But someone above me for sure. I hear they come at Boston sometime in the fall. I love the headline it and order headline a car. I don't think you really pick opponent. So they tell me who I got fight to get on that headline spot. And let's do it. I can't. I can't wait. Okay. So. You still got swear. No, it's all good. It's all good. We're a little in way. But mino- name comes to mind. Bailable honestly Tyson deal all that. I come in train hard, no more priority right now on these raw font in South Carolina than two weeks. He's gonna do work. We're going to enjoy subsequent the over there and international fight week. And then get back to work, but hopefully a TD Boston guarded card. Can you can you put in a good word for me with rob font? I feel like rob. Font. Doesn't like Massimo question. One time. He shut me down. What's what's up with all you guys because of from Montreal you hasn't from Boston? You don't like me. What's the problem here? Now, I sometimes think rod likes me, the may okay, this is the culture man. You know, it's real competitive, we push each other to the limits. And that's my row dog man about putting into work all talk to talk to some Keiko COE could do man. Since you got me on the show. I'll do the software. You I appreciate it. We'll congratulations. Enjoy Chicago don't have too much pizza because maybe they'll call your numbers sooner rather than later. So just a couple more points. I see them high. See they're hanging on. They're hanging on, but you're looking great. Enjoy the win joy the town and good luck to the Bruins in game seven, I have to say I don't feel like the city of Boston needs another championship. So I will say I'm rooting against you guys. But good luck to nonetheless. I'd say thanks if we needed to look baby all day. I love sorrow. All right. Take care of Calvin cater big win for 'em on Saturday. Gets Ricardo lamas and out to big Papi. David Ortiz, who apparently is going through some, some issues right after being shot in the leg in the Dominican Republic just a couple of days ago. Very scary situation. But the last report that I read was that he is doing okay. And that the surgery went well, so big ups to big Papi. David ortiz. All right. So that is Calvin cater story. Big win for him on Saturday. In a matter of moments, we're gonna talk to Marla Marissa's head coach Marquette who, of course was in Marlins corner on Saturday for that mate of infighting Henry, pseudo late in the program. We will talk to Henry Suharto. We have Mark, okay? No problem, no problem, no prom. Corporate shake really patrol. Patrol cracking the whip. Shoutout to the Chicago. Police a gentleman who is a member of the police force attended the event on Friday. The Hawaii roadshow and asked me, if I represent the Chicago policeman. And I'm very proud to do so, so there it is right over there. Thank you very much to that gentleman. I don't recall name. In fact, I had my t shirts are over there. All right. Forget that we could grab that after if you don't mind bringing my bag over there. But for now, let us say Hello to our next guest. He is the head coach for Marlin rice. He was in Marlins corner on Saturdays kind enough to join us. Mark Henry, joining us on the phone, Mark. How are you? So, so how you doing, buddy? I'm doing okay. I appreciate you doing this very much, especially after the laws. This is a tough one for you. Right. One of the toughest name Marlin is one of my closest friends, and it's eight years of, you know, we I many other and just having this dream known as such a massive drink for himself, I family, I country, you know, and. An eight years ago, you knew it was just when he got his shot. So, you know, it's crushing today, you know. You know. All our self up, and I know he'll have another title shot, and, and, you know, and get on that street before, but for today, just sucks. How's he handling it? Anybody think anybody like him what, you know, who's like a phenomenal fighter in a man, which means and aspirins and, and, you know, not that not too happy. You and correct me from wrong. You were very confident going into this fight, correct? One of the most was confident I've ever been, you know, like I've been, you know, catfights Franken, he's always going against so much. You know, like with the height and the weight, and the range, you know, and I just thought that Morlin was superior you know, in a lot of aspects, you know, with speed and power and has that Josie Aldo type wrestling defense. So I gotta sad a ton of confidence going in and camp was just going perfect. You know. No, he had grates. He had great sparring partners. And now in the last eight years, and, and, you know, if you just can't say three months, and, you know, how he was gradually getting better, better better, and these last four fights. It wasn't just the last three fights of him knocking. People out was the camps as well. He was just in so many things so much better. And just probably one of the most confident ever been not for a title fight, but a fight period, first round went really well, correct. I'm assuming you're really happy after that first round. Yeah, it was really happy. I was I was a little nervous at the end. You could hear us all yelling at the end. I was Ricardo Mike man's. He's gonna gas. We gotta be careful because he's low enough a ton ahead cakes and every right like hick was so hard. And you can help. Here is all I think you could help. You could hear me Ricardo an innocence, Crema, comma, comma, comma, which calmed down because he was throwing so hard and. And so we, we're little worried that he was. Every thrown everything, bad intentions, one thing that I worried about, as I was watching that because it did seem like he was getting tired, and as you said, loading up and trying to hit Henry with everything he had his very powerful guy, but it did seem like he was he was starting to slow down a little bit. Did he really dislike Henry that much to the point where he was not sticking with the game? Plan was just trying to finish the guy because he felt a certain way about him. It was clear that he did not like him from the moment. This fight was announced where you worried about him fighting to mostly. Now because it kind of I wasn't because he had beef when, you know, another fighter in the past and it worked in his advantage. So that's why you know it wasn't really talked about because I knew that it worked to his advantage last time. You know, okay, what did you? You know that, that aggression, I thought, you know, maybe workout, welcome, because it had before what did you tell them in between the first and second round and do feel key straight away from the game plan in the second and third. Yeah. Believe that. It doesn't matter what the game plan was know. I'm really? I really think that hell he'll get this fight again. So I don't wanna go to dwell too deep into it, but. You know, we thought I thought he was doing well, we just wanted him to calm down a little bit. But you know what he was doing was how he kind of envisioned things gallon, you know. So the first little was going very well. And you know in the first round when when. Henry always every fight. I see him he tries to bring precious. So we knew it was gonna try to impress your new even guys that we're trying to bring pressure on during camp and. And when. He was bringing fresher while was throwing three punch combinations, throwing them from different angles, underneath, and so on, and so forth. And we thought that was a that would help and it did it backed off at back them off. Not only did it kicks kinda have Henry on his wheels. But that fast combination through so fast and back off also. So we wanted a little more than that as opposed to trying to trying to defend hands with the Moi style like shelled up as opposed to just keeping distant key movement. Like you've seen more on his other flights did anything that Henry did in the fight surprise you. No, not at all that he fights with pressure all the time. So not all he leaves with his right analyzed, so absolutely nothing. The only thing that surprised me was. Henry was able to still come forward after getting. Right. Like kickin and after he fell Morlin coming in with the speed power, I was beyond impressed. Get all the credit in the world so much. So I'll call triple see myself. It'd be the first one that say, you know, and he definitely in my is, you know, about other people's. But in my is going through Marlin of enough to go through the second round in having the nerve to just say, hey, I'm just going to go and. That's, that's a limp tile championship stuff right there, man. Now that, that most guys won't do. And, and he has enough nerve and conus to know to do it and anyone into the fight with a messed up ankle. I give all the credit in the world. And like I said, I seem to a triple see myself. Did you guys hear the rumors late last week that he was hurt that he injured himself? And if so. Did that adjust anything that you tried to do in the fight? Now the only the only thing we did here we heard some yelling or something we were in the joint dumb. Workout room. We heard them a little bit. You guys were there and then his cO. Yeah. We are working out Tuesday night, and he was working Tuesday night, the same time. So we heard some yelling and then his coach was acting on, then I went down to get a bottle of water, and I was talking to gray Maynard, which is great only good highlights. And my thing we're talking for a bit, and his coaches outside streaming or something what was up? So then wanna want to guys on our team. Said that maybe he got her. You know, he said that the yell was kind of weird. I'm like he's gotta be crazy. And then all of a sudden, I saw somebody tweet it the next day I was like, wow. Maybe our one of our coaches was right. And no. But the only thing we the only thing we said is okay when he goes, south Paul. Let's take advantage. You know, in about it, one of the interesting storylines heading into this fight was the fact that both guys are managed by Alliott, della, deluise. He wasn't there, correct? He was not at the fight in Chicago. Yeah, he chose not to go get both guys. And the one thing I gotta say about I'll eat, you know, is every guy that has you know, he really he really loves them. He loves guest, another families their whole team. You know, he he that's what the alleys in this for the brotherhood, you know, I think that's why all he does so well, career is because of the things that he does the managers don't, so he chose not to come. We definitely didn't care if he came, you know, we're, we're happy when he has other guys, making money, firm, self and his family, so we had no problem with it at all. But he chose to come. If I can't can I say that people keep asking me about I saw Marlon at the airport on Sunday. The first thing he wanted to talk me about was. This thing with, and I don't maybe you can provide some insight. I don't understand what happened. I know all these someone of a polarizing figure in the sport. I don't understand what happened between us couple tweets escalates, and then all of a sudden, a relationship that we sort of built over ten years is, is finished. I feel I've actually reached out to him sent him text messages. I don't think he has my number anymore blocking because they're not going through. But I I'm confused by all this, and I feel bad about it all, because, you know, to be honest, these been very good to me. And he's, he's giving me a lot over the years and access whose guys. And I think I've equally been good to him on the show and to fighters as well. And I would love to figure out a way that we could just sort of move on from all this, can you give me any vice can you help me out here Mark, because I'm, I'm sorry. It's, it's off to be best friends, but I'm sorry. It's kind of ended up this way. It's life is too short for this kind of nonsense. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Senate gray, you know, and I know that Howley's based dude, and we've known you especially being from the east coast, and, and I've known, you myself alone for eleven years. So, you know, there's, there's nothing more guys to get along. And man, I can't really tell you what happened. You know what I'm saying? I know you guys flunk some flunk some Texas around, but I don't know. I really wasn't when you guys are catching back and forth. I really know what was going on. Some about your basketball thing or some silly stuff and share share your. You didn't mean. No. Of course not. Honestly when I sent that the last tweet that I sent him about, like hanging out with guys and things like that. I actually thought it was a pretty stupid one, and it was like one AM, and I thought that people would make fun of me because it was so un-imaginative. And then, of course, it, it it blew up into a sir. Thing. But I was like I was like this is the dumbest tweet of ever since this is not even that funny. In response to his tweet, and then I just kind of went to bed and woke up, and I was like, oh, wow. I guess people took this a different way. But of course, I don't think he pays his I mean, come on. I'm not a dummy. It's just the whole thing. I know from firsthand from firsthand to like I've been around Lee. I've been I've been in a workout room. He he's many, many of black belt. Many, many good. Blackout. I'm gonna say names, but ALI'S name. Naming names. But Allie sparring wise, and jitsu wise and just working out wise. I've seen him do a basic. So I definitely know it's not bull crowd. I know you know, it's I know you know that. Yes. That's very well. He does very well. Listen, very well against other guys to here's the one thing, I'll say and I've said it even before all this. He deserves a lot of credit. His guys are getting title shots. You gotta do that by any means necessary, you got to do what's best for your guys. And the proof is in the pudding in the sense that I do believe there's only one guy that's left him. RDA will Derek left them there Brunson left them, but came back, but in the history of his time as a manager, I think that says, a lot, the fact that only one guys left him and he's talked about are on the show and the fact that there's still friends. So I think regardless of what you may think about the guy and I'll say, look does good. I, he doesn't have to be friends with me. He doesn't have to be friends with Meteo anything like that. And so. Clearly, I can't speak them. Just tell them, let's drop this once and for all, you know. I regret sending the tweets. Let's figure this out, no more. I don't want this. Life is too short, unless it's all move on from all of this. Can can you can you pass that message for me? Please. I tell you, I tell you I love for you to hit up a show on type people know Allie says stuff, and people may think it's off the wall or whatnot. But, you know, he does everything he does it for the love of spiders, and people, I wish people knew his story because we knew Ali before he was a manager. And this guy like you know, he doesn't have like a Harvard education. He can't this country not knowing English. He doesn't. He didn't start off with you know, he didn't have even a background in being a manager. You know, most guys are managers for a long time in a great, you know, integrate organization or a great company shall I say? And they learned from that. I mean Ali learned everything on his own, and he didn't start off like twenty different agency start off by himself bus and his butt and start off with a hens. Oh, Gracie guy taken heads those guys hens. Oh, and Gregor Gracie halls eagle Ricardo Frankie and and what he's done is incredible. And he did it all off of the love of his guys. You know, and not take money so many times, and not charging for ridiculous things and taking losses on money, and I know, for fact, telling people don't worry about the money, you know when. They won their fight and say, no, no, you're going through a rough time and I know people let bar money you know what I'm saying fighters, who you know who, who were rough time. So, I would love you guys did even did a show a serious one because he's always trying to promote his fighters and stuff and trying to help them out, like, I wish people really knew the real alley. And what he started from because I think it's an amazing story and what he's -ccomplish this kind of risk. You know what I'm saying of how this guy came from came to America not known English known anything and, and what he's accomplished, even so much so that he gets into the practice with these guys and spills, blah with them, you know what I'm saying is amazing. Well, one of his guys, one of your guys Frankie Edgar getting the title shot till I twenty seventh against max Holloway. Do you feel like this is like you guys like Frankie clearly in a good place? He's had some time off to feel like we got to win this one, because this could be our last shot at a belt. I gotta honestly say. No. Because like he's just fighting on top. Like I don't like other people see it because they see the long stretch of his history and whatnot. And you know how many years he's been in the game. But I look at him. No, we have a lot of guys in our room, that are warm rises for, for tunnels be manga sharp off at Varas. Two more valid, you know we have. You know, we have we have so many great guys Corey Anderson, Kaelin Chicago, just one jar. Eubanks khloe, Lance Palmer and Frankie's go, and Frankie still finding at such a high level that I just don't see an end to right now. You know what I'm saying like he's sparring pro- pros. He's, he's fighting the most elite of the elite and don't awesome. So now I don't see an end. I don't think it's the last one and, you know, I think Frankie I don't know when the expiration date is on might say, it's the same as Mayweather, you know, you just he's in the room, every day, loves fighting loves helping everybody when he's not fighting even when he's injured in there. He hasn't been injured since he's been doing so much better now. And I don't I don't see a timetable for him. In a way, this is the best time to fight max holler. Right. Because it's very rare to fight a champion coming off of a loss. You never know how he's going to respond to that. So this is kind of perfect for you guys. I don't believe. So I believe when people lose they know that to come back Harvard, someone like max. I mean, I gotta say man that max is one of my favorite fighters. I max death. I love his attitude. I love his fighting style. I love. And I think the things I love about max things. I love about Frankie. They're both guys that aren't going to say note anybody. They're both guys that aren't going to back down. You know what I'm saying? And that both guys that aren't going to pick and choose their opponents. You know, they're just guys they're gonna put it all out there at any time. They they're true fighters. They call themselves fires, and they act like fighters. That's tough to do in two thousand nineteen. You know, and, you know, and I appreciate both of them. I appreciate you. Mark. Thank you very much for doing this. I know it's never easy coming off of a loss. But what if that's one of my favorite fights of the year it exceeded? Mike's Petitions I thought it wasn't getting enough attention because the Ferguson Surani fight and rightfully everyone. Was very said about that one, but what a championship level fight. That was like that was high level Emma may between to the very best fighters in the sport today. So hopefully Marlin is doing okay. He's, he's not to upset, and I have no doubt that we'll see him back in a big title fight. And let's forget, Henry, pseudo once lost his first title fight, and look what's happened to him now. So I don't think this is the end of Marlon REIs. Congratulations. On your team for getting this foreign good luck trying to get him back there. I have again. I have no doubt that it will happen sooner rather than later. Congratulations, Henry and his team. And let's get you an Ahliyah back on track to buddy. All right to mean that tweet. And I know that. Ali is definitely one of the best in the game. Thank you. Mark. Hi, mark. Henry head coach for the likes of Marlon REIs Frankie. Edgar now Cluj, Adelphia beat muggle cherry Pov Corey Anderson. Let's goes on and on one of the best coaches in the game, and one of the best people in the game as well in my opinion. And yeah, it's true. You know, this, this thing with Ellie is, is, is no fun. Some stupid tweets back and forth. I don't like it. I don't enjoy it. I don't like the drama, believe it or not. I don't like the drama. I don't. I'm not a fan of it. And so, yeah, it's fun to, to not feel you build relationships with people, and you, you, you spend a lot of time talking to them on the phone. Probably sometimes more than than your own family, and then all of a sudden it just ends. That's it. Not talking anymore because of what so anyway, if you're out there, let's try to bury the hatchet here and, and move on in a positive way. And, you know, we don't have to be the best of friends, but. That's being terms is no fun, the back and forth. They were fun this not as fun in a matter of moments. We'll talk to alginates sterling. The funk master had a big win over Pedro moon, ios on Saturday is he next for Henry, pseudo will he fight for the bantamweight title seems like he's putting it all together. Alginates sterling. I read this crazy stat. Check this out. It's not here. I read it somewhere else. He landed more significant strikes in the first two rounds of that fight against pager Mundos than he did in all his UFC fights combined. That. I read that right. Pretty sure it did let me see I wanna get that wrong. Whereas it, where's it? Whereas where's. It's I wrote it down in our little roundtable thing that we did here, it is. Sterling landed more strikes in the first two rounds of the fight one hundred ten than he had in any of his previous U of C fights. That's insane. That's a great performance. This since since he lost the Marlin rice. He's looked amazing in the he's really put it all together. The other big bantamweight performance on the card was putrid yen. And so I'm curious. If the look if Henry seriously injured, and we'll find out a little more by the how good do these cupcakes over here with the ten and everything looks amazing, very Tyson. Just wanna lick 'em. All anyway, if Henry is out for quite some time we'll get an update from him in a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if they do Puran versus algebra sterling. They're still core San hanging out there. But it seems like it's a three horse race San Hagan fights have all sons who's not an easy out by any stretch of the imagination. In a couple a couple months. So we'll see what happens. But sterling I won't be great. And I wouldn't have problem with sterling for Suto, but I just feel like sued is going to be out for a while with the, the ankle entry seem really banged up afterwards. Video of him being carted around wheelchair when he came on the post-flight show on Saturday, such pick them up and put him on the said so he's certainly banged up. And what's scary thing? That is what a scary thing. I mean I talked to a high level fighter a very famous fighter on Saturday about the stuff with the mats. And in case you missed it Henry said that he was training at the hotel. So at the fighter hotel, they have these little ballrooms, and they'll basically have these signs on the wall. With with the, the fighters listed, and red corner, blue corner. Maybe split it up at the four and you could go in there and you can prepare for your Friday. That's where you can work out and they'll usually have these match there. And I spoke to a high level fighter who told me that he never uses the mats he. Just works out on the carpet because the mats will slide I lower the place and it seems as though according to Henry and his team that was a little gap there, because the mats weren't taped properly, and that's how he sprained his ankle and sprained it pretty seriously show me the picture and this was on Wednesday, his entire ankle was swollen and black and blue. And so could you imagine if a he could not fight as a result of that or be he lost the fight as a result of that? I mean. I'm a lawyer or anything, but that's a pretty serious thing that you injure self while training for the fight because of the Mets not being taped properly. That's crazy. I never heard that before. I mean if heard people getting hurt that way, but never prior to you. See fight, but this fighter told me that it's a real thing, and they're cognizant of it. So that's a scary thing. Luckily for him it didn't affect his performance didn't fight the fight. But wow, think about and I knew right away that it was true. He had the ankle sleeves on both. Of course, couldn't just have it on one, because that would have been that would have been. That would have been obvious for for for, for Marlin that he was hurt. In that particular foot. But that's a big deal that he was able to overcome that. So world onto him. All right. Let's go back to Joe. Now, let's say Hello to the funk master big win over pager Mundos last time he was on. He was at another restaurant in Phoenix. I believe now, he's, I'm assuming at a restaurant in Chicago. I am saying I like it. It's algebra restaurant world tour. What are you eating now? Just crushing deep dish over. Oh man. Okay. So what do you think Chicago or New York? Still on the Team, New York. Okay. I would have taken away your New York heart. If you said Chicago because I don't think any New Yorker can actually go for pizza. Congratulations on the win. I thought I just read a stat that you landed more significant strikes in the first two rounds of that fight, then you have in your entire UFC career combined. Do you feel like that was like each time I feel like ask you this, but as possible that was your best performance in the USC? Say it was my best moments. Plea again to take that house and everything. But I think old role. Just complete. From beginning the first Bill to the everything wanted to do and coming those could have done better course. Of course. I think what the perfect. Are you banged up? I got a good look at your face. They're very briefly. But now I think the connection is a little messed up. I know you went to the hospital. Are you banged up? A little bit. My hand is low tweet and my leg. But I'm just limping a little bit. The end of the world's not this broken or anything like that. So my thumb I should have this word away. Get him back home and hopefully this noble chairs. They said they think that might have toward off or something and some something weird. I don't know. They said it only takes weeks. Hopefully not and that happened in the middle of the fight. Just so. I didn't still end the adrenaline came down fill out of the chair in the back room to embarrassing. They pass out. Doc, just came. They ran his tiny. I know I just felt the chill like India. Oh my God. Wow. And she went to the hospital. Did you did you injure your leg as well? You said. Pedro. Nitrate Belay cakes and the couple of free was able to get in the second round around if you'd be up go at the hospital commission. I saw that picture that was amazing. So is the bad blood. No more. Have you guys squashed it? I don't know. I mean at least so mind there was never any real that blood. I mean, the whole thing started because I asked whatever happened with the results of his drug tests that he supposedly at Bernie commission was asked question about it. Like a snooze say, why might lose five but anything like that. Sincere question. Has Fisher Worsely missing fly Fe joy isn't as plays? We thought he was. But. Should have gone with someone for fifty minutes like that. Twenty five minutes whatever the case may be. I think everyone always has a newfound. Respect each other, especially like that. Are you the number one contender one thirty five? Oh, without a doubt. I mean, what other guys are out there who else could be in front of the number one, master, I heard this battle one of the fluky is most humiliate inning not ever happen, rare most guys, they don't bounce back then and I've done this. I've showed my dairies ups and downs. No. My team was still me still by myself, and I won't fasten media row at the end of the buying congratulate me, but I also make sure they knew herb me, loud and clear. I said to my. Stuff. I don't care. I don't care what you guys believe. I believe me at the end of the day, I bet on myself, no one's ever make a count out myself and how I feel about what, what I can and cannot do. I believe in me. Never count me out came in and did you watch? Did you get a chance to watch the pseudomonas fight? From the hospital. Fallen. Exactly what I said about super power for doing super explosive. But we don't know how good he really is. And comes off, as insincere assessment from my end because I bought him. Outside of that loss to assessment decision. I view. He'd be John Dodson this, that was the only glimpse that we got to see of his still capabilities. They eat right off through spectacular. Knockout wings, one of them was a submission in her sale soaked now owned first rally. So when you have to you don't get to really see the whole pitch of Brinson table. It kind of leaves these open question marks. And that's what I was always wondering does he actually have guessing to go into those championship rounds if you like all right? This is definitely a guy and and was able to push those buttons and got him out of the early rounds and. He got the finish. I thought he was going to be a long night for those legs is. Is. Real early fight. And we talked in. Is world class for reason came back battled to versity bins. In a way, would you agree that Henry winning beating Marlin was the best case scenario for you? Yes. And no I figured it really depends on how the fight when it but with him winning. I think there's no. Immediate rematch type of anyway. Denied that, and so on. I had no race. I read in catch, let's divide and was competitive fight answer, a lot of questions, a lot of and Harry's, what he says he is. He is. How greatest combat athle- out there? But beat hell. That makes me yes. Does that make me came in? Did you see Yan's fight? I didn't I call like the last round. And even the last round like last minute, but I heard Rivera was winning every rounding Scott, quote at the end. And yon was able to still around at the end of each visual round which passed a good story for myself. I'm gonna hopefully get some time to watch it. Tomorrow, breakdown, the five so I can break down my podcast and what I think. Brinson table and. Yes, I know that's going to be a guy. I'm going to eventually meet down the road. Same page. I was that they will definitely have a rematch at some point down the road because he's a tough man. I don't think gonna be a lot of guys that can handle is Russia, his pace and his hard man. That's the one thing you gotta you gotta be a special type of gassing, especially I've been visual to deal with something like that guy. If they said, you so who does out for too long, or we want to go to defend the flyweight title? Would you be open to fighting on next? Question. Here's change Chin-chin. Go to say no have no desire to fight right now. Multiple five win streak beat them guy in the world, he'd beat beat, and I, I downloaded I don't think. I don't think I've made to fight him, right? By had to. Okay. No way. Operates but the. Data realized that I think short Shelby realized I think metered these guys on the contender that was. Contender fight. I think if it could've they would've switched. They do. Are they would've switch us? And we would have been on the card, which we should have been been on. Yeah. I was surprised by that. What did you make of that? Disrespects. Yes, I don't know. I think they thought I was going to slow page down and hug them. Clinch them off a make five boring. But like I said, man, it takes a special individual bring out those type of fights. And they chose that guy he was able to come forward. March me down. No quit branch and I hit him was shot man, I was asking Ray achey. Don't be bricks. I need something else to hit him with. It's amazing. I love I love the clip that they showed of mad Ray talking to in the corner. It's, it's an incredible corner that you have always talked about this before I'll Joe, but I firmly believe now that in the end the Marlin fight was the best thing to ever happen to you, my crazy. I agree. I think you'll. You're in terms of with the UC can can snout saying do, I think it lies me perfectly? This is the perfect scenario, but I like. We were very cordial not like best friends or anything like that. We have a training other coaches are really good friends and all that. So we have a lineage, right there. But as competitor as what we do compete against the best guys in the world. So I wasn't wishing him ill will was wishing Henry ill-will. I wanna fight the best guy. Well, I am the best guy in world. So his area this right now. This live the stars live for me told that you'll see on the name to Nathan can't stop from shining. His montage shot. Have they told you that your next have you gone in that word? No, no. But I'm pretty sure my phone's should be a major city coalition. Good news at some point. Okay. I hear they were pretty happy with the performance, you know, and Dana said something along lines by, like this entire time. I would have been demean event. So I don't know. That's what I heard. I don't know if it's true. And that's what I was told that he said. Missa Matt Saracen say, okay. Okay. And last thing are you worried. Sometimes when you have a champion to, to classes that holds things up. Are you worried at all that you'll have to wait a little longer because now Henry has to Hello? Who's that? I thought it was some random person. How are you? As my lady lady. What's her neck, accrues soon of MRs soon to be Mississippi? Are you guys engaged? Not yet. Okay. Well, did you just did you just pop the question right now? Is that what just happened? Joel. I mean. That'd be great for my show. Al joe. If you could pop the question right now. That'd be huge for us. That would be good. That is not happening. Not right now. Enough anyway, just wanted to out kind of a weird transition, but the Suharto thing that you have a champion two-way classes is that is that problematic for you. You think he has to give up one? I think Henry likes being fat and happy. I think he likes fighting at one thirty five die ova down one twenty five. I see this happening before one twenty five and one twenty five nieces, solidify number one contender still between benefit in juicier for mega to class guys. But. The world wants the funk, man. Show started baiting. We're rolling. All right. I feel like Rebecca doesn't like being on cameras that accurate. A little bit. She's kinda of shoulder there. All right. Enjoy your time in Chicago. Enjoy your pizza. My man congratulations on the win. Well done. Keel up soon. I hope for your sake that you get the title shot take care. Thank you. Thanks. All right. My man there. He is the funk master alginates sterling huge win for him. And we'll see if he is, in fact, next four five win streak at bantamweight second. Longest in the division behind thirty end. And he also landed a UFC bantamweight record one hundred seventy four significant strikes against Pedro Mundos, the plus two point eight four significant strike differential, and UFC bantamweight fights is the highest in division history. So that's a big win for Joe. Also, to kick off the card. Caitlyn keagan had a big win. She's one of five fighters. Have three wins at women's flyweight. And she is now just the twelfth fighter new see history to have her first seven fights, go to decisions Alaska, if she is, in fact, next for Valentina shift chanko, wait a second. I don't even recognize you. Blonde fighter. Is that you never see your hair like this? What exactly is going on here? Is that your? Natural hair curly hair. No, I just took my brain out. So this is what it looks like going out all my gosh. How long does that last? Probably about until I get done with you and wash it, okay. For enough you kept them in for two days is that usual thing for you. Yeah. I usually keep it in the day after just because I don't feel like I was in Chicago yesterday. And I just got home like about an hour ago. So yeah, just deal with when I get home for thank you for doing this upon landing. Congratulations on the win. Were you happy with your performance? Yeah, I was really happy. You know, I said, after the interview my whole my whole game plan for the for this fight was attitude marquan Ray every single one on one session and sparring session. He was just like, attitude attitude, always, right? Are like in his basement. He has a bake. You know, a big paper where we write down things that we want for this fi, and number one always underlined circle was attitude. And I was able to use on the fight and I think that's what helped me get the win. So what is it like so you could say that, but how do you actually work on that? Like, how is that an actual skill that you work on? I can understand it being somebody right down. But how does one actually work on that? I think just inspiring and training. You know, not being too nice and training and just kind of pushing it a little bit more in sparring and not getting sometimes I tend to get too technical, and sometimes you need to just, you know you didn't go hard. And luckily, this sparring camp how to really really great camp, me and star Eubanks. She fought three weeks before me. So we sparred pretty much together the whole entire camp, we were just like going at it. I mean are expiring sessions for definitely harder than the fight. So I think that was a huge impact for my fight in helping me improve did, did you want to, like, did you feel like you had to finish in order to cement, your places and I'm contender? Did you not think that that was important? I don't think that's important. I try not to put that pressure on myself. The only don't the only important thing is winning. So you know I just wanna stick to my game plan do what I can. I mean obviously, I'm trying to go finish. But sometimes, I think if you try to force things it takes you out of your game and out of your lament. So I try to win, you know, when exchange and that's just all tried to do. Did you feel like you did enough before the nonce the scorecards? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely felt like that, obviously wouldn't go to decision early a little nervous. But, you know, I felt like I wasn't really hurting the fight at all. And I felt like she was definitely hurt like throughout the fight. So I definitely thought like I did enough once I heard thirty twenty seven absolutely one. How did you feel about as far as the, the flights on the prelims? You guys were the highest ranked once and there were potential title implications on this. How did you feel about starting the show? I spoke to her on Thursday. I think it was that she seemed very upset about it all or moving, I've sip perturbed like she was a little bit annoyed that were first. How did you feel about it? Yeah. Well, yeah. Because you spent her on Thursday. I didn't see this is the same thing happened with Calvin. Everyone gets mad Amee. I see I wanna clip this on. And I'm gonna show this to the people. Yes, you should be mad at me. You know what you should be mad. But you know what happened? They took my camera wave. If I'm being honest. They took my camera way, I'd have a camera. Do you see me with the camera when you were there? Did you see me or just Cam? No. But I heard you saying that I like tennis player. No. I did not say that. I did not say. Listen to the interview this morning said, I found like a tennis player. Okay. First of all, if I did say that why is that bad tennis, players are great? You sat in a negative way that it was like annoying. No, she brought the first that she felt like it was annoying. You, you brought it up on. We'll brought it up, and then she ran. He's trying to, you know, try to stir up a little conflict there. Well, I was trying to be honest. I was trying to drum up some interest because it bothered me that you guys were so low down on the card. Right. Was I not your back on and say tennis players at times? They can't get a little irritating with the noises. No. I mean that is that unfair. But Tennessee, I, maybe but they also don't have punches coming up their phase. His wanna do. Why do you make those sounds? Oh, let's just how I am. And I train. I mean if you walk into a boxing gym. I mean, well, I grew up doing karate, so many. That's probably why. But and then the first sport that I competed in really was boxing. And if you walk into a boxing gym. I mean everyone's really loud and screaming, but I don't know. That's just that's just kind of me. Even when I'm at the gym people are well here, like I guess, Caitlyn's here, you know, but as just how I am I don't I try not to I'm not going to change it because it annoys people. That's what, what helps me and, and that's what I'm gonna do. No. In fact, I would suggest do even more and do louder up. You one that. Yeah. Exactly like it's like reminds me of those people that don't shower before the big fights, you know, any edge. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so we have our, but do we have beef killing the we have beef? Now I just got to keep you in. Check little, I feel like we have beef. I kinda like it. I respected. I also that you said a ten minutes into the interview like you were holding onto it. And then you unleashed it on me. Yeah. Why already I already gave you a little crapper going with Joe. Joe the barber shop. You don't go to the hair salon. Would you do that sort of thing? I guess you breed your hairs that accurate. Yeah. You wouldn't know because you don't ask fair enough, although I didn't go before this fight that was last fight. So does it. So you're saying this time I should've been gone to you. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Did you see the Shevchenko fight? Yeah. I did. I went to a par- bar with my parents and stuff. So we watch the rest of the fights there. And then I watch it. Why wanted to see my parents and my family the own out to fight? They were at the fight. But once we're fighting we're not allowed to the fighters aren't allowed to go into the stands. So I was the first fight. I wasn't gonna wait in the I wasn't gonna wait in my locker room for like seven hours. Sure bites are over. So, yeah, we went back to the hotel, and then I met up me my family my coaches. We went somewhere. I'm watch the rest of the fights, more quiet. So it was nice. Okay. Would you think would you think of performance and the finish the finish was quite scary devastating very impressive? Right. Very technical. Would you think of it? Yeah. I thought it was amazing. I mean it was crazy when you when they showed the replay. And listen to that sound of that kick that was crazy. I mean it looks bad. But when you hear the sound of it, you're like whole league grab that was a hard. Cac but, but yeah, I was I'm always like super impressed with Valentinas take downs and I don't think people give her enough credit for it. They say how much of a devastating striker she is. But I mean she took Joon down like seven. Times and no one takes on down. You know. So I think that. Obviously the kick in the finish is super impressive. But I'm always really impressed by her ability to take down. Are you next for her? Yeah. Absolutely. I think so have you been told that? I haven't been told that, but, you know, they've said that our fight was going to be a number one contender fight nothing in writing. But it's been said I don't see anyone else that make sense right now. Would you like to fight or next? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Do you feel up well with her? Yeah, I do. I really do. And it's nice that we'd just fought in the same cards. So timing wise, you know, obviously from her fight. I don't think she's injured. I have no injuries. So, you know, I think that timing wise, it makes sense for the both of us. So, you know, I think November New York sounds like a good time. I know about teen is always always wants to be active, and she's always trying to fight like she'll probably tomorrow, she get, you know, so we'll see what they say about, hopefully as soon as possible. Okay. And so, and so it's interesting because I feel like there's a thought out there and I'll be honest, I feel like I subscribe to the thought, as well as scribe to this theory that it's a little bit like the early days of the men's flyweight division where we? Have this dominant champion she will reign supreme for multiple title defenses when you watch her fight as a flyway, because even Jessica said this to me before the fight that she feels like her path has not been the toughest as a flyweight? I don't know if she'll say that now because of course they just fought you see holes in our game because I'm not a fighter. I'm not an expert. I don't see many see any. I think she's very well rounded everywhere I wouldn't say she's like, you know, from wrestling to striking to grab Lang. I think she's equally. Good at all. Three of them. I don't think she has any any particular weaknesses in them. You know, I think if for me or any other fighter that's gonna have to fight them. We're going to have to use their strengths and see where they way out against her for their advantage. You know, I'm a I'm a tricky fighter. I tend to like frustrate a lot of people with my foot work. I might movement. And I have really good cardio. And my style is kind of a hard style deal without frustrating one and it's hard to be. So I think that's my advantage for for my fight against Valentina. Okay. If you Valentina just much says, I would yell a lot. I would annoy her of dinner. Yes, she, she doesn't seem like she seems pretty focused get annoyed. She seems unflappable that's the best way. Eastern martial artists. Yeah. They don't. They're not fazed by anything, by the way. Congratulations. I do believe you're getting married soon cracked. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting married in I think two months now. Yeah. End of the summer would be safe to say after those tennis comments. And the no interview, don't wait for the save the date, I'm not on the list. He didn't get yet. It's pretty much if you would've interviewee on Thursday, maybe but yeah. Get it didn't get out today because of that. Okay. Well, I think it's warranted and deserved in my opinion. Congratulations on the win. I hope for your sake title shot that would be that would be interesting to see her go up against the strike for like yourself. She's looked very good. It's agree with you. Always good when you fight on the same card as the champion because then your schedules are lying together. So good luck with that. And good luck planning the wedding as well. Thank you. Thank you very much for shade, and hopefully no hard feelings anymore. Okay. We're good hard feeling. That's funny. I keep you in check every once in a while. No problem I can handle it. I don't wanna live in a world where Caitlyn Kagan is mad at me enough. People are mad ameliorate. No absolutely not. Actually, not fair. Enough are Caitlyn. Thank you very much joy the victory. And thanks for doing it. Awesome. Thank you. All right. There. She is. Blonde fighter. Caitlyn. Kagan kicked off the night. You have to thirty eight by the way, I love doing the, the radio show before the show. And for the event, thanks everyone who called in on Saturday. We got from the United Center atrium it was great to do from the United Center. Atrium took a lot of phone calls. It was great doing that for all the big shows. How about this guy? I don't know. His name, this guy did this shirt for me. He made it that knows world order. That. Honi roadshow, Chicago. I guess that's the date underneath. I mean, that is something another fine gentlemen. Made this for me. I mean, the people were just so. Nice thanks to chill for spoiling. What happened? How about that, right? There little collage, if you will. I mean that is just something else. Just amazing. Anyway. Thank you very much. Everyone who stopped by was great time in Chicago. And of course, the headliner featured Henry, pseudo Marla mariah's big win for Henry over Marlin, he is now the triple champ, everyone's still buzzing. And now without further ado, let us bring you the man that everyone wants to hear from everyone wants to see him. He is triple C. He is the Olympic champion the flyway champion and now the UFC raining defending bantamweight champion. And he's flanked by the two thousand nineteen coach of the year. Captain, Eric Albar. See he. He is the one and only Henry, Henry, our you. He is a man possessed look at that look. I'm doing okay. Thank you happen. Well, it's. The. History. I will kiss the ring, I will bend the knee as you like to say now Henry. It's so good to have you here. It's so good to talk to you. I really appreciate you doing this. The first question that I think needs to be addressed right at the top. I think it's the question. Everyone wants the answer to. Single. Saying, well you, you ruined. I was gonna say, how did it feel to have? Nikki Bella comment on your post. How did it feel Henry uninitiated? You know what you need to give her the hand. Are you need to give the Heisman now? She can't becoming around. No johnny-come-latelies. All right. Exactly. You know what? Nikki Bella, you know, you can go wait in line. That's right. I gotta learn. I gotta laugh here already Brazil. Nikki Bella say, hi. And we're going full, he'll Nikki Bella tiger. Okay. I will tell you that, that king of cringe the greatest comeback after the all time. She's, she's psych estranged. No. I assuming that a lot of people are hitting you up, Henry. And so we will leave it at that. This is an amazing thing that you've done. It's it's truly unbelievable. I remember it was this time last year in Chicago, that's when you found out that you were gonna fight Dmitri's Johnson who thought fast, forty year. You're now a champion in two different way classes and what you pulled off was amazing. But let's go back to choose day of last week. Could you tell us exactly what happened with your ankle and how serious was was there chance that you would have had to pull out of the fight? Yeah, there could have been could have been a possibility of that. But I, I talked to my coach I talked to everybody because I had sprayed. So Tuesday night were. I got an on Monday Tuesday night, we trained and air to go smooth healthy man. I've been so strong physically just strongman hats off to my to, to my signs team, euro force one. But anyway, had, you know, I always use wrestlers shoes for that, for that matter, ACA, I don't train foot about the only guy in a mate that just trains this wrestling shoes for grabbing for everything because because that read because I've strained up a lot of my ankles and up. Anyways, Tuesday night, we're, we're getting ready to start trading would not in at the at the of downstairs at the hotel. Typically have a training area for us in the Matt the match were under like some cheap tape. And when I step that kind of fell into the crack of the mats or between the tape in the match supposed to be connected and utterly twisted my, my left ankle area, and it was scary, but had ballooned up to maybe about a about the size of great fruit in the beginning and able to work all day, but a, you know, have Heather Linden was shut off for her. She worked on the whole week and I was doing therapy lasers at nine like it was it was almost doing therapy like every hour on my ankle. And, and I was I was able to walk on it, but I wasn't able to really shooter penetrate by to pick pick up or I didn't wanna test it to do that. But it just you know, if in the fight them set to pull through and. So going into the fight, I want, I wanted the with an injury like I went under. I wonder what, what the pretty severe left ankle sprain. Wow. Where you worry is. That's why you wore the ankle sleeves, right? Yes. Why? That's why how were they use is a mentally like this. This is a whole other thing to worry about. Did your confidence drop were you worried about your performance? You can't use your ankle. You can't shoot probably. Right. You can't move properly. You can't. I mean you can't fight properly. Right. Right. I think it was you know, I don't wanna sale is completely I was hurt, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't that much to pull out of the fight saying, like with the good tape job, and, and the therapy that I was doing, like I was feeling better. It was getting better every day. This could have been Astra's though, for you. I mean, have you talked to you have see about rectifying this in the future? Yeah. Yeah. This, this is good that we're actually talking about. Hopefully, they could I didn't necessarily anyone scare density Telhami until until maybe like the last last night had to tell the U of C officials. All listen month has had Heather was supposed to take off to China. NS AM neater air by because my ankles. She's zonal nicotine my incorrectly. Though. That's when I had a kind of break into, but, but I'm Brad yeses. It's it's an injury. It happens all the time. I bring my left ankle fog mitch's, the first time I fought him with the with the ankle sprain way worse than this, and Beata. What's going on in, in your mind? What do you think about after that first round because he looked really good in that first round, he was attacking her legs. And it seemed like you know things were going in his favor. The momentum was on his side. How did you regroup going into the second? It was. The game plan was to Russell, but again, men, I couldn't necessarily push off a cover space, like doing a good job. Don't his late kicks finding me at range with his lake. God area. Can he kick manches? I thought I if like a bat was going through my shins, I mean, the do could kick, you could hear it, and people that were near case we could heroes like it was like to stick, SCO like it was, like, you know, a the sound of breaking and I knew that I knew that he was stone, a lot of power knowing when I went back to my quarter. Franko and captain Eric in there. That is listen Monday. They sent the Meech soliver again, a says your ankles must stop. They're attacking. He's attacking that from leg. I said, she just gonna have to get into one into into boxing. Boxing, ring, Janika when you got to really fight the sky or if not, he's gonna stock you pretty much. They say like that. But that's kind of how I felt kind hop. They're kind of convenient. So they're not just told my coaches all right, man. I'm going to size them coming in. I'm going to us as on if this is what I have to do in this is what I have to do how to make a dog fight. He stole a lot of power arguable has said that he was he fought emotional would not. But I just felt like do a lot of pot. I thought he did a good job, even though he was catching me with kicks member area still sheet on chin me foes, as much as I, I'm probably a little bit more because he's he's. He's, he's directing the power but he felt it too. I know I know what should against a lot of them. Do you feel like you got under his skin? You're in his head because it did feel like he was throwing so much, and maybe not controlling his power not controlling. It seemed like he got tired, and it's been a long time since we saw Marlin get tired in a fight like that. You feel like maybe he emptied the gas tank too early because of how he felt about you, clearly he did not like you. He didn't. But I don't think so at moment I said before. Motza power fighter. I think his game Plum wuss ride just thought he knew too much power. So I don't think he got emotional. I just didn't think he knew what I was made out of, you know, you gotta you gotta keep you gotta keep that in mind, the fighter did it be ball mariah's. It was a competitor. That beat him. It was a guy says, okay? Man, you may be the better fighter you may. But you're not the better competitor. Man. I will find a way to beach us. If you don't, if you don't shut my lights off. You don't choke me off. You don't knock me out. You're in trouble. And that's exactly what happened. He threw too much power, which I thought he would and I saw breathing. He shot his demeanor, gave me everything it has breathing his face his hands. I, I look at all that stuff, and I started push the pace as a smaller guy. I push the pace in. He just he couldn't handle mourn. I saw that. Speaking of being the smaller guy first time in wild that you fight a one thirty five. So now you can compare it to you at your best at one twenty five. You like fighting thirty five better. Do you wanna stick around? You like the five better. It's ten ten thousand less of, of misery, but I have the capability of making both way classes now Dana Dana white. You sit at the fly divisions gonna stay you save get around. Can we get round of applause for that? While done, you do believe him though, because he here's my theory. My theory is that he's saying that, and it's great just so that you can walk around as the double champion, if they take away the division, you know, it doesn't feel like it means as much. But they got rid of all these guys. How can the division actually be thing? If there's only ten guys left. All you restructure it every okay now's the time. I think you structured you find characters. You find guys there's a lot of good geysers team Zuege who is really tough man out of South Africa oral Chan man. He is one dangerous human being. There's guys like they're everywhere they're everywhere it just showed a flyway is in Utah for Powell king. The flyweight has to BELTRAN now the former pound for pound was a flyway. There's nothing wrong with what's happened is you gotta fight character. We have to build storylines. A toddler is to. Even at the battle of division for the for area would be sync thing was a character their who's who sell in the fight. You're saving all got an. You're doing it. Did you see anybody coming up with magic tricks? It's incredible. I love everything you're doing a really seems like you're, you're comfortable in your own skin. You don't listen to the haters, you don't listen to the critics. And I saw it at media day all the cameras were around you. Everyone wanted to talk to you. Everyone was commenting on on your your your staredown your props. All that stuff more. So it's amazing what you're doing. And I noticed that you said in the post fight interview you wanna get paid like a heavyweight. It's time that they actually start treating you like one of the big stars. Is that what's the next thing that you need to get done? You need start getting paid accordingly. That's my first flight. My first fight is with Dana white, and the Indus checkbook know. You know, let them start off by saying this man a day. No, the USC have spoken in these are the last people wanna I wanna trash talk. But I will think this meant as much as they're a business is. So, so am I I'm gonna price fighter? I deserve to be paid guys. I'm an people talk about champ champ. Okay. George saint-pierre Daniel core meaty, dude, I'm an illegal mile. I'm an legal my own area. I'm from triple C, and Chan Chan Chan, so not a chance on triple team in the Olympics is the any human could ever want wanna be compensated. I speak different languages, the us, she sees know why he's gonna come Satan. He's going through if not, you can have both belts, I deserve to get paid. And he's been good to me. And he's told me says the more you win. You said you win. This five through told me he says you will be competent. So I'm just reassuring. I'm doing publicly we're both public figure. Show. Right. I want I want a one moolah I deserve you do what are the state what the state of your injuries right now? What are we dealing with, how how's the ankle after the fight how you feeling overall because of course, saw the footage of you being wheeled around in a wheelchair? How you feeling now? I'm feeling better. Now a gum. All actually, I'm beat up. And I'm still Chicago. Chicago, I think during the fight I had I like through all my, my left shoulder. So that's actually more pain in my actual shins like this hurts, I'm pretty short towards something my left my left shoulder guy. I'm never, I've always been healthy and just doesn't feel right. So my shins bleeding for miles Budi last night for a top by head. Both my shoes have a cut in my NIA need him in the face ready to whatever. But I have a gap about this big in my neon offals from a kid, but I don't think he kicked my knees. So must have been from kicking kicking onto the face or whatever. So have gash there, I'm beat done managing? It just shows I can I can be technical or I can make until dogfight Nassir by. Do you know exactly what happened to the ankle like did you did you tear ligaments? Is it just a sprain is a worse now? I'm gonna I'm not to get a chick by the doctors. You know, you're the first percents in the picture, too. In heather? Heather the lead. There was torn while ta on the top side. So, but I don't have an MRI. Is that really can't can't do that, but I wanna get get a ho scanning my buddy at the fighting more? I recounted earlier today in a column on ESPN dot com about the story that both you in Iraq told me the past that you have one seventy seven when you essentially retired after failing to make weight prior to the Scott Jorgensen fight. And so I can't help but ask Mr. Eric in back over there. You are. You were jumping around like a little child. You were so happy was beautiful to see this was as much victory for you. I feel like as it was for Henry. And, and we should note because you felt slighted last year that this is now your second double champ in the span of a month and a half. This is an incredible thing. Eric, how do you feel after all this? I feel the world it was four weeks and it was in Chicago leader, four weeks ago. Wow. Chicago's has done you. Well. Takada was been good to me. Why did you let yes except I got robbed left yesterday. What happened at fort left it in the hotel lobby Wentz to run after Henry's doctor to try get a prescription for him. And then I went back up to the room when I went back down when I realized what I had done. It was gone. I got video of it. So I'm gonna posted a Molise said, let's see if we can find this guy on, why are we put a hold on you on the spot air can help? Okay, what do you need? How can we want you want me to release it? What you wanted to use his nose sniff amount. Like that. I'm telling you I'm trying to right the wrong this trophy. It's coming to you Henry for last year. It might have been come to you for fighter of the year of twenty nineteen and for the coach doing his thing. I mean no-one no-one is comparing to what you guys are doing right now. And it's amazing. Eric, why did you not let him retire back? Then why you're the only one that believed in the sky seemed why did you not let him do that? He competent enough at the at that point, he was an Olympic champion. Because I thought because of because of Saturday night because I knew one day would be he can be one of the greatest, and, and that's why simple simple, that's what's old. They can be the greatest one day you going to be world champion. And we are you serious about one forty five. Why not why not? Why not guessing? Account me out again. Jesus. I love it. I love it. I think so the fight that would really want area. And this has nothing to do with, with, with, with, again, just as everything will competition is if, if a Frankie Edgar was fight against the max Holloway. That's if I could I'm interested in, and we had talked about it before my coach captain, Eric had mentioned it at internees. I like to I like his stature, I think the heights seems very well. He's wrestler on, I think if he wants to fight with Mets hollow at the I think, in control dot it's not nothing against Frankish. I wanna compete against the best man. You know, I know he took offence when I called him out with the mom marash annoyed didn't believe me, but a wine, not why cannot wear another bell that they've, they've been telling me, I couldn't even tell me a candidate. Tomo get knocked down the second against Marlin. They told me housing stopped by Dmitry Johnson until building stopped by teaching dillashaw. Do the skies ligament. I want to change my mind body as Solan was as fine if he wants to do it. But so let's make it happen. Would you like to fight again this year? Do you think you're gonna have to take the rest of the year off because of the injuries? I'm gonna have to play by ear, but no, I will, I would I would like to fight towards the end of the year for sure I will headline team. There's no more me being combing event either. I, I feel like I'm the new face to the US, really do my credential but in the US she has my credentials. No by not kinda McGregor nobody. And I want I want to be paid love when all be treated like home after the win in, in January of reteach. You went on, like a three month world tour celebrating what do we plan for this one? I'm going back to Brazil, I remember. I made that promise. They'll go back to Brazil in an and celebrate with Dan. I'm gonna take that belt down there. I'm gonna go to Mexico. I wanna go to a bunch of different, Emma. Go to Dubai. I have a good friend to be fighting down there. I'll be hanging out with the shake while oil family thing. Show just doing just doing big things. There have been hope people see that, that aren't the truth men like that. Like there's no denying you don't get lucky for different times. Just don't it's amazing a lot of sponsors. I hope so. I hope so. Maybe I'm just not cringing over. Maybe I'm gonna that by hair blonde. Don't do something there. No, don't do that. Please. Don't do that. Could I just ask? We'll say this just go ahead. And we'll say Lena the Olympics area. Also zig kid that was sponsored by everybody. Coca Cola polo. Ralph Lauren Adidas. BMW cress tie the biggest brazen the freaking world and get an amaz- just like I don't know. I thought that the cringing would be cool. But I guess not. No do not doubt yourself. It's working trust me. It is working. Good. Things are gonna come. I've no doubt of it. Let's end on this since you brought up the Olympics. You said after you beat DJ that was a big deal, but the Olympics will always Trump everything now that you've gone to belts, and you're in this rare category with some of the greatest ever are we starting to rival how you felt after winning in two thousand eight or will that still always be number one for you? I think I think it will ethic it allow never. Okay. Because you wash my shining at one their areas. One of the most precious beautiful celebrations you'll ever seen her life. I'm I've never been somebody, I've never really until now but before one lives L normally show. I never really showed him motion after winning. But I remember the whole year takeout seven I had just gone through. I couldn't wanna tournament to stay my wife like everything going wrong. But I still stuck to race when I won the Olympics down every match. I remember grabbing my high grabbing the American flied yelling life from the top of mine line. Those actually crying like it's an emotion that only a world champion could ever feel this motion. That's your show happy that it's it brings sadness to, and this was special because of that. Because because more was was a killer volun- is a fifty fight Lynch streak has not has last three opponents in the first round. I mean, the dude is that dude is is, is dangerous. And I was able to, to be the guy that I knew that could probably shut my lights out and prove everybody wrong once again and become the champion common. I mean, I'm an Pala Famer ernie'll. Yes. It's amazing. It's an incredible story. Who thought now Dana lights? Dana. Why not want you to tag? Okay. I says they know why this is enough man walk into the new. This is your new face to the US's name is Henry SoHo. He is the Olympic champ, flyway champ, and bantamweight champion the world, and I want to get pay my name has officially changed from the messenger to triple C, and you can add another zero to that check, they know why you have both belt. That's you're gonna walk away, you are willing to walk away. If you don't get paid accordingly. Accurate in. I, I gotta get paid. I gotta get paid. That's what I had to do what you can have all to hear e promising to keep the, the flower division keep it. Keep keep keep your word. I just wanna give pay for now enjoy the victory Henry, he'll up. I hope you get out of Chicago and are able to be okay, on your way out and keep doing that thing that thing right there. That's the thing. I love that thing. Whatever that look is whatever you channel while you do that please keep doing it because it's just phenomenal. That is the money maker. I love it. Channel cheese that she within me. Thank you, Henry. Congratulations to you, captain Eric in the rest of the team. I appreciate this very much. They get your the madman. Thank you. You're a big part of this, too meant that key for the kid for pushing me, and allow me to be me. Areas. Henry, pseudo. How do you not love that guy? I mean really he so likable, he doesn't think too seriously? He's fun. He's entertaining. He fights like a madman. He sometimes acts like a madman. Come on the crown the Cape, the toys the gifts it was amazing the breathing. The breathing. I love that thing. It's great Henry pseudo coming into his own. I remember being in Chicago last year for UFC to twenty-five talking to him on the phone about taking the fight against him. Truce johnson. It was him as us here for me. He was not that guy. I always believed he was that guy. But he just wasn't comfortable enough. Putting himself out there like this now you see the confidence like you can see it there in front of us. It's losing out of him. You see a confident man. He's fighting that way. He's acting that way doing his interviews that way. It's a beautiful thing. So congratulations to Henry, pseudo, congratulations to Valentina shift chanko, how nice Valentina Shevchenko. She texted me in the middle of the show wanted to have on she's meeting with the Chinese consulate and apologize profusely that she cannot come on the show and said, she loved come on to the future. No problem at all. Great win for her. Congratulations to her Tony Ferguson. Great win for him. He's back. He's, he's, he's a good place, mentally and physically. He seems at peace. He seems happy. He seems call. Tom, he seems collected he needs a title shot. Let's hope that he gets a title shot. He deserves that big fight. He has done enough. And then, of course as we look ahead. Now, the big show this weekend is Bill tour MSG. No, you see this weekend. But Friday night, an MSG it's going to be a great one. Roy McDonald Neiman, Gracie chill Sunan? We oughta Machida Kyoji Gucci Darren Caldwell the return of iron PICO and many more. So I'm looking forward to that. I'll be there for that, one on Friday covering it for ESPN. And how great is this a year ago? Tomorrow, was my last show from fighting dot com. A year ago, Friday my first day here at ESPN and what a year it has been. It has been a fun year, but we've got more work to do. We got a lot more fun. We got a lot more fun left in us. It's going to be great. I'm excited. I'm excited. Heavier one behind us. I feel better today than I did this time last year this time last year I was very nervous. I was anxious. I was excited. I was a little sad. The my friend. But I was really excited. But, you know, when you change jobs, you feel a little weird about things. You're not sure how it's all gonna turn out. I'm happy to say it has turned out well so far, but we got more work to do. So. Don't go anywhere. I appreciate all the support. And I appreciate everyone that has followed us here and continues to support thank you very much to all our guest today. It has been a fun day here on the hell wanna show. Thank you very much chill. Son in for coming in studio. Thank you very much. Chris cyborg, great stuff as always from her. Thank you very much, Michelle Waterson. I love the passion. I love the emotion. Thank you very much. K mo-, happy trails, my man congrats on a great career. Thanks very much to Calvin cater. Thank you very much. Mark, Henry, and congrats to him by the way on Caitlyn kagins when I fail to congratulate him. Thank you very much alginate. Sterling, thank you very much. Kill kagan. Of course, thank you very much to the great Henry Suharto and his coach captain Eric elbow seen back next week. Save time and place. I'm out of here.

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#B128 (big screen to bilateral)

The Dictionary

12:59 min | 2 months ago

#B128 (big screen to bilateral)

"Hello words welcome to another episode of the podcast called the dictionary Giles. Say This right off the bat in the Front. Please go right in review and share share share. Let the people know that some Weirdo was doing a podcast where he reads the dictionary. Some some people almost scheduled a to be guests that I'm going to make a very strong effort at as at making that a regular thing so this can be more interesting. I hope it's more interesting. I know there's some people out there who just want the words So you know what? Let's give that to them. Okay the first word is big screen two words now in from nineteen fourteen. The motion picture medium often as contrasted to television as in a story adapted for the big screen. Big Screen with a hyphen is an adjective. Have you ever noticed that? Sometimes the put in a hyphen and sometimes they won't or the adjective verb version will or will not or whatever. I wonder if their rules. If it's an adjective has to have a hyphen. If the original was just two words I dunno next is big shot. Two words now from one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. A person of consequence or permanence next is a big stick to words Noun from eighteen ninety three threat especially of military or political intervention. Walk softly and carry a big stick. I wonder if he was the first one to use. That was that 1893. I don't remember when he said that. I think it was early Twentieth Century. So somebody else invented it next. We have big ticket with a hyphen adjective from nineteen forty-five having a high price as in the car. Was a big ticket item. Next big time with a hyphen. I form adjective from nineteen ten relating to or involved in the big time as in big time sports also the number four definition for the word major as in big time operators. Now we have the second form of big time also with a hyphen adverb. From nine hundred and fifty seven in a major or large scale way as in the new show bombed big time also to a great extent or degree as in owes me big time. Now we have big time with no hyphen. It is a noun from nineteen ten one. A high pain vaudeville circuit requiring only two performances. A day number to the top rank of activity or enterprise. Big Timer is a noun next. We have big toe two words. Noun from sixteen ninety nine the innermost and largest toe of the foot did not think that that would be in here but I guess you know now that you mention that so are we gonna see like Smalto Pinkie toe or Middle Toe or ring toe or whatever or just big toe. I have a story with big toe I was. We were celebrating Thanksgiving. Let's see if I can do a short story. The younger versions are the the younger group of us. We were probably in our teens or late late teens. Early Twenty S and a part of the floor was very slippery so we were running along and sliding and it was fun until I went to go slide and I didn't I didn't slide and follow hurt myself instead. I hit my toe. Hit the threshold of the door of the room that we were running from and I busted up the toenail and then people call me big toe after that next. We have big top two words down from seventeen sixty three one. The main tent of a circus number two the to A and B and c definitions of the word circus next. We have big tree two words Noun from eighteen fifty three and we have the synonym giant sequoia. Now we have big wheel. Two words Noun from nineteen forty two synonyms are bigwig and big shots. And I think we. Yeah we read big shot before. Next is bigwig. Hey look at that. They're together one word now from seventeen. O three and important person next is Bahari capital H. A. R. I it is a noun from eighteen. Seventy eight one. A A native or inhabitant of Bihar one be a Muslim born in Bihar who emigrated after the partition of India. In one thousand nine hundred forty seven also a descendant of such a person. I don't know anything about these people number to a group of Aryan languages as Bhojpuri spoken in Bihar India and I think it's just Bihar Comma India Comma and adjacent areas not Bihar. India could be not sure. Don't know where it is next. We have by Jek Shen. It's like ejection but with a by now from Nineteen fifty-six a mathematical function. That is a one to one. And onto mapping don't know what that means Compared to the words injection and Serge Action Sir Junction by. Jek Is an adjective next. We have Bijou be I J O you. It is a noun from sixteen. Sixty eight one. A small dainty usually ornamental piece of delicate workmanship synonym is jewel to something delicate elegant or highly prized. Bijou is also an adjective. This is a French word from From the Brett Brett Brett. Brett's what is that abbreviation hold on hold on B. R. E. T. Britain. I think it's like British but it's it's related but it's not the same. I honestly I'm not entirely sure. So this is from the Bretagne Word B.'s. Xue B. I. Z. o. You which means ring from Biz which means finger. Okay next we have Buddha Ray. Are- No Biz uteri. Wow I really screwed that up. B.'S UTERI B. J. O. U. T. E. R. E. It is a noun from seventeen thirty five a collection of trinkets ornaments synonym. Is Jules also the synonym decoration? Next we have the first form of the word bike be. It is a noun from the fourteenth century. One is chiefly Scottish a nest of wild bees wasps or hornets nest. What I was expecting number two also chiefly Scottish a crowd or swarm of people. Now we have the second form of bike. It is a noun from eighteen eighty number. One Synonym is bicycle number. Two Synonym is motorcycle number. Three synonym isn't motorbike and number. Four synonym is stationary bike. My friend and I taught ourselves how to raise UNICYCLES and we realized you could shorten bicycle to bike and tricycle trike but there was no shortened version of UNICYCLE. And so we just started. We started calling it just like you. K- you think that was the only thing we could think of so sometimes if we're talking about still use that next is the third form of bike. It is a verb from eighteen. Eighty five it is transitive and it means to ride a bike. Next is biker. With our Noun from eighteen eighty three number. One Synonym is bicyclist. Number to sin is especially one who is a member of an organized club or gang biker. It just I just love seeing things like that Written in such a proper standard way in a book called the dictionary the juxtaposition of those two ideas. Just funny to me. Next is bike way. It is a one word. Noun from eighteen ninety-five a thoroughfare for bicycles. Next is bike. Bi It is a noun of from nineteen sixty seven and we have the number two definition for the word. I feel like I'm losing my place number. Two definition for the word a biker. Who is the? That's the one who's a part of an organized. Cluber Gang Vike. That is weird to me. Next is Bikini Noun from nine hundred forty seven one a a woman's scanty two piece bathing suit they use the word scanty. Okay one be a man's brief swimsuit like briefs Ammann's brief swimsuit number two a man or woman's low cut briefs bikinied so bikinied is an adjective. Or You could spell it. B I K I n Apostrophe D so if you wanted to know where the word Bikini comes from. It is a French word from Bikini which is an a toll eighty of the Marshall Islands. I think that's like one of the islands or a portion of the islands or something but yeah that's the word. Bikini next is bikini wax it is a noun from nineteen seventy-three a procedure for removing PUBIC HAIR. From the skin near the edge of the bottom half of a bikini by applying hot wax covering the wax with a cloth to which the wax and hair adhere and then peeling it off quickly. I I'm sort of surprised that they actually described every step of the process interesting. Now we have bill B. I L. It is an abbreviation for billion one billion dollars. Next is the I form of the word by labial. It is an adjective from eighteen. Seventy eight in italics. It says of a consonant of a continent. I think that's when you're when you're speaking because the definition is produced with both lips So what would that be the word? Be The words no the letter B. The letter P and then there's more probably we are going to move on to the second form of by labial. It is a noun from eighteen twenty nine and it just says a Bi labial consonant so a constant could be bi. Labial is an adjective or it could be a noun. It is the continent. That's by labial. Next we have by Labia Te. It is an adjective from seventeen twenty having to lips as in a by a by Libya. Corolla don't know what a Corolla is. All I know is the car but I know it's something else Let's see we have the last word. Now it is by lateral. Bi L. A. T. E. R. A. L. It is an adjective from seventeen. Fifty one sorry if my mouth is getting a little dry but we're almost done one affecting reciprocally yes affecting reciprocally. Two Nations or parties as in a bilateral treaty also is in a bilateral trade agreement number two having two sides three of relating to or affecting the right and left sides of the body or the right and left members of paired organs like the kidneys as in bilateral nephrotic town. Mooney. Neff Frick Frick. Sorry the last syllable went on to the next page. Not just the next line but the next page and went from the bottom of the column all way to the top so I had. I had very far to move. My is next to me. If you couldn't tell we are at the top of the next page. It is one twenty-one so now we have the three be definition. Having bilateral symmetry bilateralism is a noun and bilaterally is an adverb. And now we have to pick a word. I think I will just pick big toe as the word of the episode. That is it. Thank you very much for listening. And until next time this is Spencer Dispensing Information Goodbye.

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Taylor Young: Meeting and falling in love with Brett Young through Facebook, breaking up after 6 years dating then getting married years later, having a baby girl + road life.

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Taylor Young: Meeting and falling in love with Brett Young through Facebook, breaking up after 6 years dating then getting married years later, having a baby girl + road life.

"Is hard. But I was so afraid I could lose everything love is wonderful and confusing magical, and infuriating everything about life that we had thought and planned and hoped for was just in that moment gone. I was so so so lucky to have that join the millions of listeners who've made committed possible and promise you it's cheaper than therapy. Listen to committed on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. These. So-so? Okay. Hey, guys this episode of get real podcast. I Taylor young. Joining me. She's the beautiful wife too. Bright young their love story is amazing. They met when Taylor was in college Taylor lived with a mutual friend of Brett's Brett was coming to town to play show. This is the days of my space. He had not yet become one of country music's hottest stars. He saw Taylor on Facebook thought she was so stunning hit her up Astor on a date before they even met. Then they ended up dating six years due to scheduling and timing. They broke up lost contact and then randomly reconnected years later realize their each other's one true. Love got married now they're pregnant with a baby girl on the way. In taylor. Talks me all about how they learn to fight fair the difference between the first part of their relationship and the second part what road life may be like with the baby how she's preparing for it. And why they love pillow talk. So y'all. Excited. Here's taylor. Okay. I am here with the beautiful in the tabula Taylor mills young. What's up Prego? I know you. Will bump sisters over here. It's so funny because the last time I hung out with you. We were at abbey's Meyers house, and I had just done out. I was pregnant. Remember, it was like in January, and we were talking, and I was like are you already baby. And you're like. We might be ready start trying or something. But you didn't know you might have even been pregnant then. So I think yeah. So I think that makes sense if we it was probably beginning of January, actually, I don't remember. It was either right before or right after I was pregnant, but I had no idea. Yeah. And I remember so excited for you. But it was obviously early on for you. So we were all talking about like, oh, my gosh pregnancy what you're going through. This is so exciting. And I remember sitting there thinking like, I hope that's me soon. Because we were kind of in that phase of like, okay? We'll we'll just start trying and let's not put any like, you know, big pressure on it. That's the way to be. Yeah. So so again, I mean being thirty two and Brett's thirty eight. So we were like, you know, let's not worry about it. But then so you told me, and then honestly, it was we got pregnant like mid January. So as a matter of probably weeks after you did like, maybe close to a month after you did. So so so exciting because we're like almost like exactly month apart are early October to early September. Oh my gosh. It'll be so much into day. You just found out that you are having a little girl are. Excited today found out. Yeah. We just found out up literally today just came from the point at the appointment. Stop it. I know so exciting so excited in your to. No, no, I can't even believe it. We were just talking about how I was convinced that I was having a boy, I thought you were having a boy commenced. Yeah. That too just like y'all having a boy, I don't know why dispelled like a boy it really did to me to my whole family. Did like was convinced thought that I was having a boy also Brett was convinced insure enough. It was a girl, but we're so excited. I'll if I'm little surprise and also Brett's fifth number one happened today. When my gosh, I know so it's a big day in the young household. I know you to do all these things to celebrate. I really don't I just it's honestly kind of overwhelming just so many fun things have been happening about house or working on that and the baby news. And then you know in the number one. It's just I mean. Honestly life right now is we feel so blessed? I just I I like pinch myself. I'm like how is this even happening? But but yeah, life is good. Okay. So y'all story we have to kind of dive into your story because you have a very unique story you and Brett net like ten years ago and dated redid. So how old were y'all when y'all dated? So I was like barely twenty one in Brentwood twenty six. Okay. So where did y'all meet? So we actually met in Arizona out of all places I was going to school at AirAsia state and Brett. Was living out there for he lived out there for about four months just to right? He was kind of working with someone out there on with music, and and on writing and doing all that stuff. So he moved out there for just a short while from California. And ironically, my roommate at the time was from. California in Newport Beach, which is kind of where he was from. So he reach out to her and was kind of like, hey, I don't know anything new. So they knew each other. And he's like, I don't really know anyone out here. But I'm out here for a while working. And and so we kind of connected through her was it instant, you know, I mean, listen, I instantly was like this guy is a really I mean, he is really I will say this. It was kind of funny. So it was pre- like online dating, you know, it was like that wasn't really young kids will never know about that the young kids. We'll have no idea of our children. They'll never know does. I don't know. What that you're ancient? Actually like had to meet someone in person. So anyway, so we he actually message me on Facebook before he mentioned to my friend that he was moving out there. And then he message me on Facebook. And said, hey, you know, I know your roommate is Alexa. I don't know anyone move out. He kind of gave me the spiel. And he's like I'd love to get together. And I'm like, okay. Like, I trust my roommate and I love her. But I was like who is this weirdo messaging meat like he just pictures of me online. And just thinks it's like okay to just message me so get together. Like an a date have. Yeah. He's already on a day. He this guy is persistent. Yeah. So he just dove right in. And I was like so I went back to my room. I'm like, okay. Tell me about this guy. Now, you've mentioned him and his music like she used to play his music all the time. And that was before he was bright young who's just doing probably like little work demos. Oh, yeah. It was it was like my space like playing my space music days. Yes. Nice face my face. Go throw back. I know. So anyways, very long story short. We connected through her. She he just was like very persistent. And I kind of you know, I was single, but I was dating someone very casually. But it was at the beginning of the kind of dating thing. So we don't even on a few dates, but I was really interested in this other person. So when he came along, I was like, well, I have to be honest with you. I mean, I don't really know who you are and be I'm seeing someone so yeah, maybe it will work. Maybe we'll hang out. And he's like, no, I would love to get together with you. So it kind of he he had to work for it. He had to work for it. And our first date. I still made my friend come with me. So I wasn't. I wasn't really like I didn't. I didn't dive right in again. I thought he was doorbell online. But I felt weird at the time because no one was meeting people online. So so we met did long distance that whole thing. And so how long we're going long distance. We were in. See I it was my basically my senior year in college. So it was about a year year and a half, and we kind of dated a little bit. Didn't like die. We didn't. I've into something like really serious right off the bat, especially you know, he was only there for a few months. And then we kind of you know, kind of just grew from there. He was so sweet used to derive like for one night from LA to Arizona. It was like six and a half hour drive six hour drive and used to drive and come out and see me, and this guy's outta college. And I'm like dragging him to like college parties, and like all these things that he probably had no interest in doing. So we dated for while. And then I ended up when I graduated moving to California, which is where he was. Still dating when you moved to California. So I was still we were still dating when I'm out the break up the for only like, yeah. Well, we had another like kind of break so to speak. But we broke up. So I moved to California, and I was working my butt off. And my job was really really really demanding time. So I worked for Nordstrom. But I was I was like kind of a regional manager was in women's apparel wanted to be a buyer. So I was working up to do that. But opening venture stores in LA. And it just I mean, it's like it's retiring joke, it really isn't like it's it just it really takes up so much of your time holidays all those things. So we were kind of ships passing in the night because he was working and doing music, and I started to get into my career, and I was loving it. But I didn't really have weekends. It was just it was a whole thing overseeing like two hundred people, and so it just kind of wore on us. And then you know, I was young he was a little bit older than I was. So we were kind of different like life as in a sense. Yes. And then he ended up getting this opera to move to Nashville, and at that point, it was already kind of tough again with our time and my job and his job even seeing him when he lived in the same city as I did. But I I mean, I was like you need to go you need to do this. You've been working on your butt off on music for thirteen years. Like, try something new, and he was like, well, you know, but so far, and I was like just do it just do it. Now been dating at this point. So this been probably about five almost six years law dated Sigrid years. Yeah, we do. So you like your big love. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. We live together for a little while. Years. Yes. Yes. Six six years. So then he moves in what's his opportunity that takes them to Nashville record ill or no. He actually was like he had this awesome investor. Who's now just like the most amazing friend to us, and he was talking to Brenton. They're like, okay. Like, let's let's game plan here. You know, we hear things are going on and Nashville and at that point he had given up on even trying to be an artist. He's like, listen, I just love writing music, and I want to be involved in music like I just I just want to be a writer. Yes. So he they moved them out to Nashville for that reason to right? And he had he got he was like, you know, what I'm not even gonna put too much energy into signing with record label. Then as boys in his good looks all the talent who's out. He couldn't help against signed. I know five number ones. We'll vendors back. Yeah. So obviously, it's gone. Really? Well, and we're so so blessed, but but the hard part was, you know, a laid Nashville. That's no Joe big long flight hot and even even weekends. I mean, if you put in to consideration the time change and the flight time by the time you have three days. I mean, everyone's yeah. Yeah. One full day. And so that really dressed war on us. We weren't it. Wasn't. There wasn't anything bad. It wasn't. It wasn't like nothing bad happened between the two of us. It just like the time in the distance really kind of like war on us in our relationship and me not being able to come here and just him for focusing on music, which is exactly what I was supporting him wanting him today when he was loving it. But again, it was just hard and then him being older he was really wanting to settle down like right when I graduated college. He's like, let's get married, and let's kids, and I'm like we wanted to do what you're doing now for a long time with you. No, he's he's been patient. Yes. Yes. So it's we're we're so happy. So the break-up just sort of happened because the distance everything, and this is sort of like, it just was disorder thing. Yeah. It really was. It was to the point where I was working all the time. He was working all the time. We were kind of ships passing in the night. And then it was like, you know, hard to even like plan time to jump on the phone. We were both young and busy. And again, he really wanted me to either move out here. He wanted to move back till late. It'd be with me. And I was like what you you need a procedure dream, and I'm not ready to settle down. Of course. I wanna have kids one day. Of course. I see it with you. But now right now. Yeah, not right now at all. And I kind of wanted to build, you know, my career to and feel like I had that under my belt before I, you know, became a mom and all that. And I'm I mean, we talk about the time. We're so glad that like now is the time. We're so ready, and there's no. Conversation or force or like, he's ready. And I'm not or you know, it just feels so right? Yeah. It's like timing is kind of lined up for us. And timing. They say timing is everything think so how long are we all broken up? We were broken up for quite a few years actually to we talked a little bit at the beginning. And then it just was way too hard. I mean, he came to LA a couple of times for work to visit. And we saw each other. And he was like, I don't feel like anything's really changed. And I was like, you know, I don't know that anything has either. And after that, we just it was too hard to talk. I mean. Yeah, I loved him. He loves me, we both dated other people near broken that. Like, it was really interesting because he signed his record deal when we weren't together. And did that whole thing. And so, you know, naturally, I would hear through the grapevine like oh my gosh. Did you hear, you know, Brett on the radio or did you hear this that like hearing him on the radio now all of a sudden easy? We didn't make you like like urine for him. I definitely did. I have to be honest definitely did and songs are so romantic. Now, they really are romantic and sad. But I, you know, honestly, it was so happy for him. Because again, we didn't we didn't end in a bad place. And he is such an amazing person. I genuinely wanted him to be happy in his life. And I have always said like someday something's gonna happen for him. I don't know. I didn't know what capacity, but it was like he's he works so hard like something's going to happen for him. So it was so insane to hear him on the radio. And I was so happy for him. But I couldn't really like reach out and share that happiness with him. I was like I need to you know, he's doing his thing. He seems happy dating. So when I'm doing my thing, I'm dating. So when I'm really happy did anyone compare? I mean, it's no, no. And so that was the hard part. It was like, you know, we are both really happy. But I think we both learned a lot from our relationships that was one of the thing that one of the things we talk about being just ironically, one of the best parts about breaking up because being with someone else you start to realize he know. Honestly kinda compare you don't want to. But you're like what we had was so good, and that rarin, right, and rare, and that person was just my person, and I in young and we met young. Yeah. Michael broke up for two years to and to say that young and same thing. Like, I thought I don't know what I thought when I was going to be when we were broken up. I started dating other people, and he did I was like no one is even on the same spectrum for me, you know. But it's, but it's like we say all the time. Thank god. We broke up really. 'cause if we didn't break up, we wouldn't have matured individually, there's so much that we needed to learn on our own because we started dating really young too. And I'm just so glad that we didn't get married young. It works for some people. But I'm so glad that we had that chance to get out there and explore. And then we were able to really realize like I love you. I love being with you. I'm in it to win it with you, and all your fears and questions sort of just. Go away. And you got to do what you wanted to do. True. I couldn't agree more. I mean, I literally agree with every single thing. You said the same kind of situation at just, and we we've talked about it like if we kind of push through those times, it would have been pretty challenging, you know, I think hardest part of stay together. Oh, that's a great question. Again, I think are like just timing. And he again, he really wanted to sell down, and let's move into. And I really wanted to have a career and feel like I had established myself in some way and felt like accomplished goals before I just dug in and not that I couldn't have both because he is so supportive and support me through all that. But again, it was just the lifetime ING thing. And I think it would probably put a lot of pressure on us to you just still like move forward. And, you know, get married moving, you know, kind of settle down that whole thing. And also it would have been either me moving to Nashville. Or him moving home. And I wasn't quite ready to do that. And he was and I knew he wasn't ready to move back to his lesson lining up. Yeah. Forcing it it really wouldn't even though y'all right? It would have been forcing. Yeah. At the time. It definitely would have what about you. Did you have like same like, I think like I always loved Michael? But I was just I wasn't. We weren't. We weren't ready lay. I I I was scared of instability of being music musician 'bout to that operates me that was a big part of it too. I thought I wanted more stability I thought the whole lifestyle was just too overwhelming. And I thought like every musician cheats, it is gonna be an asshole and all of that. And I don't know an or just like the gogo life of it. All I thought I couldn't handle it. Yeah. Yeah. And then I started dating people who like were super like more traditional traditional jobs. Yeah. Everything was more planned out safe. And all that. And I was like this. This isn't going to work for me. This isn't what I wanted. I would rather does dive into the creative life and ride the wave and be with Michael who I know. I like connect with in a way that I've never connected with anyone and be willing to risk it off for love. Then just have a safe marriage. Yeah. That's so true. I kind of I remember the the this lifestyle was always intimidating to me. It isn't him it. Yeah. And and I knew I knew his heart. And he's oh, he's seriously. Just the most genuinely sleep feels like he's sweet guy, my romantic and thought he actually is what you see is what you get just. So he's always made me feel safe. And I didn't I didn't not trust him. But it is kind of hard because you kind of share your husband with the world and not to mention all these girls girls that would just love to be with him. And that's okay. Like now perspective. And how do you navigate that? I mean, you know, I think like a lot of the wives to you just have to trust in your person. Trusted near relationship in your love. And I think respect is a huge part of it respect honesty trust. How does he make you feel safe in this world? When my gosh, I mean, he just always goes out of his way to make me feel included. Make sure that people are aware that like this is that I am our relationship is a priority in his life in so many different ways. I really can't. I mean, I can't even describe it just the day to day again him being present. And and he always includes everything he does. So there's always open to our. Hey, do you wanna come eighty wanna like there's never any? I mean, I never have to wonder. I always know what he's doing what he's up to. We have really good communication between the two of us. Great. So he's great at talking things out. But you know, those those writers and musicians they're good with feeling. So so y'all just hash stuff out to the bottom. Like, if there's something that comes up or y'all great it just like nipping in the bud and talking it out. Yeah. And I think that's something. We've also learned as we've gotten older, especially when we got married even before that. But it was kind of like, okay. This is my person if we're going to try this again, like we're this is like we're not going to be in this to argue improve our points and trying to you know, whatever. And and see how this goes it was like for a jump into this. We're going to do it. And do it in a way that Slyke if we're going to argue we want to argue the constructively. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And just try and find a conclusion we may not both be you know, the most excited about how it ended up maybe someone disagrees still a little bit. But it's like, let's find a happy medium where we both can move forward. So have y'all learn. How to argue? Well, right. Yeah. I mean, we're yes. I really think so we tell time I don't feel like argues Boso thoughtful, and like kind, and I feel like you're both on the same page just from following y'all even on social media. I feel like you're so on the same page with him, and you're so supportive of him. And then he loves you and showers, you is so much love. I feel like y'all are in sync. Yeah. So tell me though, how you have learned how to argue. Well, like, what does how do you do that for people listening because I feel like some people kind of get nasty, and that's not really effective. Yeah. Exactly. And listen don't get me wrong again over for ten years knowing this guy. We've we've definitely especially in in our twenties. We were in the first half. I'm like, I was crazy. Yeah. Sorry same. I was like I was there is no arguing to there was an argument to win. I I was like I'm gonna I'm I'm upset about something. And what I think is right. Yes. Me too. And so there is no. So that. And that was a gun in my early twenties. And then, you know, you kind of life progresses, and you figure out your person in your thing. But now, I really have to be honest with you kind of going back to what I said, it's just I my mindset is this is my person I want to be with him the rest for the rest of my life. And I want him to be happy to even though. Sometimes he drives me nuts and I drive him nuts. The whole thing. It's like we both want each other's. We we we have the best interests at heart for a relationship and each other. So if we disagree it just trying to talk through how we can find just some kind of common ground and agreed to disagree in a sense, though. It's like instead of arguing to always prove appoint be, right? It's like, okay, little let's like, let's try and get through this. So we don't have to go back to this thing again. So how would you say the first relationship differs from the second relationship with? That's a I mean, what were you? And Brett like in the first one now what are like in? What did you learn from the first one that? Now, you have changed the second one. Okay. So I think the biggest thing for me is just is just that we again time in what we were doing in our lives. I was just I mean, my career was kind of number one for me at the time. That's how I was a much. Really? I gotta be myself. Accomplish my goals. Yeah. Yeah. It really was. And so I think that there are a lot of times that I put him on the back burner. And and he was so sweet. And he was so supportive of me. Always I didn't necessarily mean to do that. But I was just super focused on wanna it was doing in wanting to do it. Well, so that was a really big strain. And then when we first met that was I mean, I was in college. Like, of course, I loved him. And I'm like, oh, I would love to marry him someday. But really? My mind was in a whole different like place. I was like, we're let's go hang out with friends, and like, let's be social all the time. So where about yeah. So again, it wasn't. It wasn't really about us together as a couple. It was just kind of like, okay, we are living a life together. But in a sense, I was doing my thing. And he was doing his thing. He's he's extremely stubborn. And listen, I really I can be too. So he's does that look like he. He's just extremely stubborn. So he'll hold his ground. Oh, absolutely. He's an only child L. He is will he has a half sister. But he essentially to right. So he's extremely stubborn. And again, don't get me wrong. I am too. But that was hard to fight with in a hate to say this in a minute. But I'm actually admitted to him all the time. And my key is a right all the time. What do you like a factual argument or like a disagreement? I'm like, no, no. That key write something that something again factual. He always forgotten wins. Like, he always knows the answer. And I'm like dang it. So now now it comes to like silly things. Like that. I'm like, I'm not even gonna argue this. He's probably right in Google. And sure enough like, but but yeah. And those are kind of more silly things. But we we really have learned a lot. And I think the biggest thing is what you said is like we have learned to. I guess disagree and get to a common ground in that. Our our goal is the same now. It's s yes. Yeah. And you're on the same team. That is one thing. I feel the difference with two is a like, I do not wanna fight. 'cause like am I doing I would pick fights all the time. I had so much. I needed to prove to myself to the world. Michael everyone at now. My I don't have anything that I need to prove to him myself. And I do not wanna get an argument and waste our life fighting about Subas stuff. Right. I feel like something. I have learned is I've just like maybe because it's like ten years almost eleven years together. Gosh, I just feel like I know him and his heart and his mannerisms. So well that I know what it all is in. What all that means. And I just don't have to break it all down like. Yeah. That's true too. You really just learn each other. And what what their needs are kind of what would upset them. And what what what you need out of like being a spouse, and what they of out of love like if Brent need support here. Or if I know something might kind of upset him. It's like you kind of steer clear of that. It's so true when you're younger, it's like you got other bugging me hit every nurse. Gotta hit every client absolute and break it down to the bottom. And now also not we're Michael Brett is so good at making me feel included and valued loved that. I never worry now. Yeah. He always makes me feel like I'm so important in number one. And it's like there's something that comes up, and he needs to go do something and like. I'm not safer summaries. It doesn't work out for me to go. I know like he would have wanted me. There is just for whatever reason it didn't work out. I couldn't make it or who knows what? But I don't ever feel like I'm being left behind in this journey that he's on. Yeah. Yeah. That's important. I think like being a team together. I agree. I'd never ever ever feel that Brett, you know, again doesn't have like RBIs interest or mine at heart. His priority is having a great relationship. Right. Yours michael. Yes. 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But it's what are you having Zayed's finance more just like a little bit of like being anxious? I mean, listen, I I'm so ready to be a mom, so I'm not necessarily terrified kind of feel like if there's like a kind of know what I'm getting into. But that's probably I'm going to sit back and probably laugh at this. And be like, oh, you thought you knew right? But I mean, I kind of mentally at least prepared for it. I think my fear is just, you know, being the best mom that I can be and you're really shaping and raising a human being like, I I hope that that my daughter is going to be better than me, basically. So I just wanna you know, just making sure I give her all the right tools, and then you know, that she succeeds in life. Happy and whatever she does and is independent and amazing. And I mean, it's just it's just me being the best parent that I can be that just a little scary to be like, I am shaping a person to put out into this world. So there's and then there's a lot of fears of the unknown just, you know, just battles that and things we're going to take over over the years of just, you know, things that I don't I've obviously have never tackled before. And in trying to navigate parenthood, and is this right? Or should I do it this way or self? Yeah. Yeah. Or you know, not being too strict. But I don't wanna be you know, gotta be strict enough sin known that. There's boundaries. Right. Right. Right. So so anyway, I think there's I mean probably can go on and on. But at the same time, I have a piece about it. And I do feel like decently confident of just again, I think being in this place in my life that it all feels right timing. And I have a partner there Bret with me to kind of tackle all this with you know, with me and go through all that together is going to is going to definitely be be nice and make me feel. About peace. So how are you going to do road life because you kinda go with Brett everywhere all over the world goven like conquering the world base, traveling everywhere doing amazing things where have you been this past couple of years like Switzerland? That's a great question. Let me thank you that. We got we went to Switzerland. That was amazing Australia. John the u k. France. And then of course, all around the States, Canada, Mexico, the whole thing he loved being on the road. I do it was it's definitely a change of pace for sure some wives. I feel like struggle with being on the road being in there. Having to be in their husbands flow all the time. A lot of wives actually love it. And I felt you're one of those that is loves beer road with bread. Yeah. I definitely have. So I think when I moved to Nashville it's it's been a little over a year since I moved, but I quit my job. And when I came out here kinda was like we both talked about it. We used to always be ships passing in the night. Kinda like I mentioned, so I'm like, okay. This is a great time in my life to be able to go out and really understand what he does. Because it's really it's hard to explain or hard to like under your head around. What this all really looks like so I moved and I'm like, okay. Why don't he was like why don't you come out on the road understand? What I do. Hang with me. If you like it great. If you wanna go back and get a job like he was supported with anything, you know, anything that I decided to but I thought that was kind of perfect. So I went out on the road with him. And yeah, it's a transition. It's an interesting life transition like for you. You know, I was did you feel like you're losing yourself in him because a Philly off that can happen. Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely went through that. How did you get through that? I, you know, I think it was just taking deep breath in perspective and talking to a lot of other wives, meeting, other wives and girlfriends in the industry. I mean that has been a God thing because everyone is just like family. Everyone's so welcoming sweet there to support you what have you learned for those otherwise, oh my gosh. So many things I mean, so when I originally went out on the road. I remember someone mentioned to me that the road life can be kind of lonely and Brett had said that too. And I didn't quite understand that like lonely you're with a million people all the time. You're always around your band who are buddies. And how is that lonely didn't but going out on the road? I started to realize that yet can be because you're kind of isolated you're going from one city than the next, and you don't necessarily you can't call your girlfriend up and be like hailed tomorrow, or let's grab dinner and your family's not out there. The zone less. You're seeing people in those cities. But I started to realize that I needed to dress while I was on the road spend time getting to know people. So if there were other wives girlfriends, you know, other bands out on the road trying to get to know people and also just explore the city is that kind of occupied my time a little bit who are some of the wives that you met off the bat that really like game changed for you. I mean, honestly, they're so many because everyone's just been such a great community. These wives are so awesome. I can't even tell you. They really are just the sweetest. I mean, everyone from so when when I first went out on the road Brett was out with lady antebellum and so- Cassie, of course, trials Kelly's wife has been just I mean, I think she's kind of like mama berto out of people. She's just has just great words of wisdom and advice, and and it's funny now to mentioning that now having a baby I'm like, she's one of those that she like she would bring ward everywhere like when he was little she was out on the road. And you know, other shows in Europe with him and doing her thing, which is impressive. So I'm not really sure how I'm going to kind of combat that life. I wanna be out. I was wondering do you think you'll bring baby girl with the on the road, or do you think you'll stay home more? I mean. I mean, I would like to bring her out as much as we can as much as it feels comfortable and just have, you know, be there and experience that and I think honestly Bret would love that too. But at the same time, I have no idea feel I pretty I feel like I'm pretty independent. So I'm like, I'm gonna do this. And if it's a little hard comfortable or challenge for me. I would just like I want to do it and kind of jump in. And otherwise Janet, I feel I can do it. And again, I've been leaning on other wives. We like how did you do it? And like, wait, how do you even like changed iberson in tour bus, and we're like what how does this? How do you even navigate this whole world with a child? So I've been picking people's brains. But and I think so I think it will be just nice to be out on the road while we can before school and thing. Yes, Anna comes up. But but we'll see I mean, it's been I enjoy being out on the road. But I also love my routine, and I love being home, and what your team when you're at home who that's a good question. I love I mean, I just love being in my house. I'm kind of like an introvert extrovert in a way like weird way. So I like my alone time. So I like just morning's waking up having a Cup of coffee working out, whether it's yoga or Jim that kind of thing those are like a big one for me have you been working out during your pregnancy. You know, what I felt kind of? Of crappy trimester initially. It was like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna work out. I'm do this. And the couple times. I did. I was like oh my gosh. I feel terrible at one time. Yeah. So I I like really didn't have a routine that that's totally normal. I like I used to do yoga every single day. Yeah. Or work do the gym. And I was first trimester not even worry about it. I try I Mike this body is definitely changing. And I'm just kind of. But I know it's a weird feeling that morning sickness and just exhaustion. It really. Is. It definitely definitely hit me. So I feel like I'm kind of turned a corner where I'm feeling a little better and having energy. And so I I'm kinda getting back into that work. Our whatever that looks like it's a little different than it used to be. But that you're feeling active again. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? Or you do when I hit about second trimester. Then I started. Walking every day. Okay. Doing prenatal yoga like one week and maybe yoga another yoga class like once a week. But that's it. And I think that's all I'm gonna do. Yeah. See that's what I wanna do. I need to do a prenatal yoga. That's what I've sent. That's okay. My join yet. I may join your that would be fun. Very fun. Yeah. So it's been the routine has been a little different. But like I said, I I'm feeling a little better. So I'm going out on the road actually tonight for the weekend. And I think I'm just there there were times where I was like I'm exhausted. I'm just going to stay home. So I went out for about three weeks when we were on the west coast because he doesn't do the west coast, very often. And that's where our family and friends are. So that was really fun, and it was birthday and all that shirts with his face on them, and everyone or them or those ridiculous high takes you. So there's like everyone in the band and crew in of everyone and you had on just Brett face stress. They were they were he died in the funniest part. After be honest. He doesn't necessarily love his face on things. I why I don't know. I'm like you have cute face. Let's why wouldn't you? Yeah. Right. And so the kind of running joke is too. He's like I just don't want to do a face t shirt. So when he was doing his merchant everything we're like, I was like come on. Let's do a facial. Everyone loves a good facial. I have like facial from when I was in high school at and those were my favorite. Yes. So he ended up doing facial. And so that was that was kind of a funny like in the camp, everyone knew that. Brett hated the face shirts. And he's come around to the idea. So I was like oh my God. We have to kind of embarrassing him. And it was really funny. His drummer Billy when I was planning this as a surprise, he messaged me. And he was like, I just wanna be very clear with you. Let's make sure Brett knows this is your idea because I don't wanna lose my job. Wearing these onstage. I was like I will take all the heat and the the ban was kind of laughing. They were like you are terrible because them onstage. They wore them onstage like terrible. Because you know, he's gonna hate this. I'm like come on. You've got to that was the best. Yeah. They're pretty funny. This company made them put all the pictures on them and everything, but they were also like funny color to they like Brown and just the whole thing was Lewis. But a lot of people have been asking me where is it March? I told him that he was like, you're kidding, right? Absolutely. The too many faces. I want shirt. Yeah. Yeah. So it was fun. So with your family out on the west coast is his in the west coast. Yeah. So my family's from Seattle. But my sister my sister, and I actually lived in Santa Monica together for best east. Right. We are very close. But now she lives in northern California. So Brett's family southern California kind of Orange County area my family Seattle, but they travel a ton. So they kinda bounced around wherever wherever we are in my sister's northern California and his sisters in Oregon. So we are all on the west coast. Oh, so that was a fun run. Yeah. It was really fun. And that's always like I've learned to kind of like look forward to those moments to friends on the east coast from college. And you just you just kind of you change your thinking little, and it's like, okay, come out of the show, and I'm only here for dinner. But let's hang out, and it makes it really fun, and it's special share that with people too. Like actually row life does allow you to keep up with more people not longer periods of time. But for quick stints like, I know like okay twice a year. I'm going to probably go to this part of the country, and I'm gonna see my friends here. Whereas otherwise to plan a trip we might not get around to it. That's actually a good point. I never really thought about it that way. But it's so true. I mean, I've. Yeah. In the last six months, I feel like I've been able to bop around and see most my my good core group of friends, and then even so some friends that I haven't seen a years that you know, from college and things like that that have been like, oh my gosh. I see Brits coming to town. And this is where I live now love to see you. And so you're right. It does kind of help help kind of like reconnect your connect you with the people that live everywhere. Yeah. Like, we all kind of nowadays. It's like people move so quickly and onto the next city. So yeah, it is. Nice. Definitely. So how did you get back together? I don't think if asked you that like how did that how did that happen? But is a good question. And so we so again, a we obviously broke up broken up for quite a few years or both dating different people in relationships, and I was kind of going through time in my relationship where it was it was tough. And ironically, timing thing really, I don't know if I was on the same page as the person that was with before great person can't say enough about him. But so we kind of kind of we're taking a little bit of a break and not not talking and just kind of like refocusing and figuring out if we you know, if it was going to be right, and we're gonna move on together. So long story short. I was driving home from work, and it was like eight o'clock at night. And I get a text message. And it said, hey, this is Brett and I stared at that for text message for ten minutes said, it's yeah. Hey, this is Brett no best 'age. No. Just let. Follow. And I, but I literally started it. And I was like, okay. My heart was gracing. I was like bread. I was like the only for bread. I know is Brett Brett Hapag I'd love dated. So and I hadn't talked to him at all in years. Like at all, the only thing I did was basically congratulate him when he signed his record deal and other than that. It was like I'm not I don't need to get involved in his life. Happy that share. Yeah. We'll we you know, like I said it took some time to get to that point. But. So I was looking at. But the thing is I had his phone number in my phone or so I thought new number he had a new number and it was seven one four area code, and that's the same Erico that had before. But it was a different number. So I'm sitting there like, oh, my gosh, this has to be bread. So then he I think he followed up with a how are you longtime? No talk how I reach out of the blue. So I mean, so from what I understand is. He was also in relationship. And again, he said says nothing, but great things about the girl he was with. But they also broke up. There's a big age difference between them, and I think ironically, like lifetime ING, I think it was from what I hear. It was really hard on. It was just this industry was really hard for her to understand. So anyway, so they were kind of working through that. And they have just broken. Exactly. Yeah. So they just broken up. I had pretty much broken up in like fairly recently broken up. And so I kind of looked at that. And I was like, oh what a heart to stop. It. Really? Did. Did you just what did you do? I mean. So ironically, I was I was going I specifically remember this because it's like one of those moments where when something big happens. You know, exactly where you were time for yet time freezes and you can't ever forget it. So I was actually going to target them away from work. So I pulled in the parking lot. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna Texan back and it was kind of excited. I was like oh my gosh. I haven't talked to him in so long. And if this really him has to be so then I was texting back and forth. And I'm like, wow. So good to hear from you. It's been forever. And I'm so just happy for you. It seems like things are going. Well, so we kind of text back and forth. And then he's he text me. It was like can I call you? And I was like, oh, jeez. This is like this is like terrifies me a little bit. Because it's you know, you can. Once you start the role again. It's it could snowball, right? It's like you kind of open your heart up to something. And in your you get excited about it. So I was like, oh shoot. Okay. Yeah. Call Komi Komi, mama home from work. So he calls me we just caught up. But I think from what I hear he said that he was he had just a really rough night with his ex at the time. They were still kind of talking in one of the things she said to him was that she just is uncomfortable with all the, you know. I guess women around comments he gets on Instagram and all this stuff in that. You know, she just doesn't trust him. And so he called me, actually. And he said, I have to be honest with you, obviously I've been thinking about you. But here's my situation. And here's what my act said to me. And this is kind of where it's coming to a head. And he said did I ever make you feel like you couldn't trust me? He's like, I really am just like beating myself self up inside. Because I really don't know how to be better. And he's I know and he's like, I don't I can't control what other people say to me, but I can control. Of course, what I say in how I act and he's like, I just don't know how to be better that he's like I understand that this. He's he's like this lifestyles really different now and change. And I was I can understand that a lot of women. Again, message me on Instagram, Bob. Aw. He's like just tell me. Like, did I ever make you feel that way, and I instantly? It was like, Nope. Never never never never. I like dead. Serious. He never did. And if there is ever a time, he would where I was like that felt a little weird or you know, that person felt like she was excited about your music. But also at other intentions about getting to know you, and if if that was ever the case back in the day, he would just he would just instantly like, you know, change it and make sure that I wasn't feeling that way. So that's kind of where the conversation started. And we talked for ever felt insecure. Even now what the in his high of career. I mean, let's insecure. I don't know if that's right. We're maybe that. Yes, there have been times where it feels uncomfortable. Because again, you're I feel like you're kind of sharing your husband with the world. And in a sense, you kind of become like you almost become Taylor Brett, Young's, wife or girlfriend or fiancee and not necessarily Taylor. And brett. Yeah. I felt like I kind of lost my identity in a weird way. Because there's so much going on. But he always did again, instill always does the best. He can just make me feel comfortable. And once I kind of understood in learn this industry and his world, and how it really works has opened my eyes. So maybe piece. Yeah. Yeah. Interest trusting him and knowing that he loves me. But yeah, I have to be honest like they're definitely times where feels I feel insecure. I mean, he's a great looking guy. And he's doing great things. And you know, there are a lot of people out there that are like oh my gosh. She's so cute, which I'm like, listen, I agree with you. I totally agree with you. He is pretty cute. So how do you come back those feelings by knowing the truth? Yeah. So it's never is never that. I don't trust him or feel or feel nervous about it. It just kind of you know, just. Yeah. It's just knowing the truth knowing that I can trust him one hundred percent. Yeah. Because it because I am changing my thinking a little bit. Like, I understand why people are excited. Listen, I have a celebrity crush like is your note. Like Channing Tatum thirty Paul Walker. I mean, like, let's be real. We all kind of do. So I'm like, you know, like, of course, we are excited. Of course. People think he's adorable. He is a door. I can't fault them for that. And that just is what it is. It's part of it. Yeah. That's really that's really big of you to to be able to get on that level. And just see the big picture. Yeah. You're talking in the car. He's ever make on your like. No, okay. So then what happens next? So we talked for like two hours, and then he even talked to my sister that night and on the phone. I was like oh my gosh. I'm getting excited about this. But I blatantly was like I just want to let you know, like, I'm really happy right now in my life. And I was recently dating someone. Here's kind of where I'm at was really honest. And I'm like, you know, where are you out with things like, I'm I'm happy, but I'm kind of working through this relationship thing. And I was like that's great. And we kinda just left it as you know, it was great talking to you. But then of course, he text me in followed up with. I just wanted to also let you know that I'm going to be in LA for work, which is where I was still living at the time. And I'm going to be there for in about three days, silhouettes, definitely Mita. So I love to get lunch with you. And I was like I told him. I was like I mean, I'm going to have to think about that would love to see you. But why don't you just text me when you get here? And like, you know, we'll see what your schedule's like, and if it works out, and he didn't tech. Ex- me. And I was like oh my God. So I didn't hear from him at all. And I was like my gosh. Oh my gosh. So he didn't text me because he was still working on. He was still kind of talking to they were broken up. But he was kind of working through things with his axe. He wanted and I completely like very honorable of him understand it. He didn't hanging with you. If you still. Yeah. The trenches with her. Yeah. He's like I just felt like she owed I owed her my hundred percent focus figure out whether this was and still left you hanging. I know and it was so unlike him, and I was like so then you were like one in Texas. Really even started all this. Now gonna leave me in the dark. Exactly. So I was kind of like okay now, I'm excited. I was excited about and he got me excited. Now. I'm disappointed. My really disappointed like was I really going to see him. So, but he followed up with me not long after and in called in Nepal drive under said, like I hope that I didn't leave you, you know, completely stranded. I hope you weren't really upset. And I was like well have to be honest with ios little like I was expecting it. We, hey, I'm busy. But it would have been great or whatever it is. Just like let me know what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Or let me know what's going on. But I understand that completely. Once he explained it to me. I'm like. Yep. That's that's the honorable thing to do. And I get it. And it was new he was he was still going through it. So long story short. We ended up seeing each other not long after having lunch. And then we went on a beach walk and the beach walked turned into like the evening. And then it was like, then he was like, wait. I'm I'm flying to forget where he was fine. Maybe like Chicago. And he's like, why don't you come with me? And that's where I was like. I'm going to have to move. I'm like, I'm the brakes. This was our like on our way to full relationship, and it's like in one day, and we fast when you've been in serious relationship. That's true. 'cause you know, how to be with him ready true. Yeah. And it was it was it was just like a minute is good feeling good also feeling like we both are under such a different place, it just instantly felt like. Really good. But anyway, so we kinda rekindled from there and it slowly kinda gradually. I went out on the road with him or he would come to see me. And when did you know that your back on this was happening all the way? I mean, I have to be honest. It was like it was pretty quick. And it was unlike any time before again, I told you we had when we were young we were on a break, and then we got together and nothing had really changed still just kind of the same place in this time. It was like this is different. And we both talked about it if we're going to get back together. Then it's the real deal. Yeah. Yeah. Like, this isn't let's not go back and forth and try and figure it out. We've had plenty of time to figure it out. So it's either let's do it or let's not and and like go all in jogging married pretty quickly after got back together. Yeah. We did. How long it was about a year? Yeah. We didn't need much more time. I mean that really was I'm like, so not a person. I mean, I like being spontaneous. But when it comes to life things like this. I really think through what may be over. Thank sometimes. But this is one of those things I was like this is it like it just felt this right? Not to wait. Yeah. It was easy. It was the best thing ever. So what's the prize? You most bobbing married to Brett. That's a good question. I mean again knowing him for so long there weren't necessarily surprises. Once we got married or when we got back together. But I mean, surpri, I think really for me is just he is truly the most incredible has been he just so sweet and thoughtful, and it's not necessarily surprised by any means because I knew that about him right away. But every day there's just he he has a human being and as a partner and as a husband surprises me just like in us together. It's just it's he he's just so sweet and thoughtful. And as always kinda going out of way to to do little things for me. And so I appreciate that. But. I mean, the dream. Oh, I don't know about that. Well, listen, we all have we all have our moments in our things, but Johnny like little things that y'all do a couple that no one. No, good question. Million even like for like me, and Michael we love to lay in the bed in the morning and just like lay on the bed talk. And yes, actually for walk every day. I love that. You know, what we do Britain? I also we do like our own time. And he's that way too, especially I think also with this life being on the road a lot you just kind of want it when you're home. You just kinda wanna be home and just be in your space. And so we do a lot of we do a lot of hanging in the bed too. Just like sitting chilling just cuddling talking. We also do talk to each other a lot like we will stay up until like three in the morning just talking like, well, we can talk about this tomorrow this love to talk. Yeah. We I love to talk to do. We'll talk all the time. Like, we talk about everything all time. It's fun. Isn't it? It's like your have your person. I mean, just about I am Joe talk about lifestyle or. You talking about like things happening in the world. Or what is your what is your topics probably life stuff? But like I will talk to him about everything from like girl stuff like say, what's this is kind of how this is going. And like, what do you think I should do or how should I handle this? He's really good. He's really good at giving feedback. And he's a really good book. But yeah, we love that. And we also we like part of our little routine as we'd love going to the gym together. And and doing that. So those are that's kind of like our constant whether we're on the road or at home, and then just meeting home cooking dinner and a good net. Flicks movie is always always a good one. But in terms of stuff that people don't know. I mean, we're just just like everyone else. I mean, probably like you. It's like we're boring sometimes ago run here together. I'm like, hey, come with me to target. I know you don't want to. But I want you to get with me or whatever it may be. So we're not all that exciting. I think it's exciting though, when you just love to be with each other like to have a best friend and partner posted something about partnership the on your buck. How important partnership was for you? Yeah. That is a big one. And I think I've probably touched on it. When we've been talking just. Just feeling like that Brett, and I are on the same page, and we have the same goals, and we have you know, we may like go diff- go about things different differently or in different ways. But knowing that we always have the same kind of goal in mind and same intentions in in that kind of thing. So just always having him there as my person and support system and is important to me. And I think I think him as well. So no matter what we're doing what life throws at us. If it's a good day bad bad day. I think you could probably relate. But like, my husband is my partner, and he's my partner in crime and everything. And so just always knowing that I have him to turn to and go through those things with is is a good feeling for sure how does he handle stress? You know, he's interesting. He if you didn't know him, you would probably think he doesn't get super stressed out. Doesn't get sue. Super stressed very he gets very kind of Innis head about it. So you you he he gets quiet and in his head when he stressed, and then he'll kind vent to me, of course. But he doesn't he's not necessarily like he doesn't necessarily start talking about it and freaking out and verbalizing all these things he kind of holds it in. And then when he does have something to say any is stressed about. It definitely is like pretty Ford into the point. But so I think the way that Brett deals will stress. He does he does eventually like to talk things out with me or whoever it is that he is or whatever it is you process. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Again, very like, he's quiet and hope get kind of like this like serious look on his face. And and he Ron like even before shows or big big events or live TV. I'll be like I don't want to feed into this too much, Mike. How are you feeling like I don't want to be like are you stressed out about a nervous? But. And he'll be like, I'm good. It's good. I I'm like are you nervous processing? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, no, I'm good. And most of the time he he is pretty I think with the athlete thing. Did you baseball before he played basic fair? Yeah. He's really he really wasn't. He got hurt. But he was initially going to play hopefully in the major leagues that was kind of his goal in lightly has he was already good with pressure. Yeah. I mean, he really is. He like when he has to perform, whether that's you know, on stage or in interview TV or like sports when he has to go up there and he's like on the spot. He'd toast, really. Well, not not like me. I'm on the other hand. I like over think like I said I over think it I'm like, oh my God. What if I do this or how are you a stress I feel like pretty like even keeled? But I think I probably with stress I'd like to talk through it like if I'm nervous about something or anxious either call like a friend, or my mom or talked to Brett or my sister. You'll talking I wanna talk it out saying. Yeah. And just get some like reassurance. Like, it's like get it out of you. Right. Yeah. And maybe that's a woman thing. But I think so I need to talk things out to a million views. Yeah. I makes me feel so much better. And get reassurance. Not like the choice that I've decided to go with his right one. Right. And if it's not an if it's like, maybe you kinda bumps in the road. It's like don't worry like just do this and think about this and put your focus here. Yeah. I'm what about Michael is. He disliked that stuff with you Michael umbrella kind of similar because he he likes to talk everything out with me. He does we like that? Sometimes when something really big is happening or he's really trying to figure out how to navigate something. Or like a bump. He does go inward. I and sometimes I'll have to pull it out of him. Once we get it going. Yeah. It's like the waterfall has opened up, and it's just flowing. Yeah. Yeah. Or like he likes to talk things out to like just in general like he'll walk through what he's going through musically all the time or his career. He likes to just kind of like for. His own self. He always calls me his backboard. He's like it is a backboard too. So I can even know my own thoughts. I love that of what I'm actually thinking kinda need here out and have like a response to know. Does this sound okay? Yeah. Yeah. Does this make sense? I used to feel like I had to give him all the answers. I used to think he was coming to me for answers. But then I realized he just speaking out loud, and he's gonna come up with his own answer. I have to give him my honest feedback. But I don't have to solve it. I like how to solve all these things for him. That was so funny. You said that because that has been something that Brett's actually mentioned to me multiple times over the last year. Probably because I think when I'm asking you I want them to solve it. Tell me what do you think he doesn't want me to solve it? And I finally got that through my head probably last year. He's not asking me to figure it out. He's just needing to speak it and have some honest feedback. Yeah. That is so funny about has been a big thing Brett's Br we'll still even preface it. Sometimes he's like, I'm just I just need to like talk it out hawk it out. And I want you to tell me what your thoughts are. But I don't necessarily need you to be like, well, maybe you should do this that and say, this is not what I yeah. That's not what I'm looking for. So it took took me a minute to. So maybe again, that's just kind of like how our brains work. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, okay. Someone's pouring into me. I've got a really like try to get in there when we hope someone, you know, the person you love the most. Yeah. Because I'm like that with friends to oh gosh. Let me try to really give you something that's going to help you and move this along for you. But actually realizing in life in general, actually, maybe don't have to solve stuff for -pedia. Yeah. Yeah. I think though that like again, I think with women maybe it's a little different. And I don't mean to like cast that judgment for everyone. But I think I think maybe we liked get get more of that from your other than than maybe men do. But I don't know. But I used to get stressed out over all, Michael. Things like stress out about everything. Right. When he's not really stressing guy, am I'm like, oh my gosh. I've got to figure this out. We've got to sort this out. Yeah. And then finally like something happened. I think I started realizing that life is gonna flow and that he's going to figure it out from self. You always has always will actually the way he figures it out for him is so much better than the way. I tried to figure it out for him. Yeah. I finally realized that like. Two answers. I try to tell him to do or actually never as good as what he does on his own. Yeah. So I started noticing that. Yeah. I can see that. But totally and I was like, okay. I I just kind of chill give him good feedback on his feedback. And then just he'll get it. Yeah. Yeah. And that has been a game changer for me. Yeah. Totally. I actually it's so funny. I completely relate to that to that kind of more recently. Like, maybe in the last six months come to this realization, I was just like the last year Brett lake actually had to send multiple times like to tell me. I don't need. It's okay. You don't you? Don't. Or it for figure it out. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Well, it's always good to have your here person to be able to talk to. But I like to also guys like women, we we do confide in our girlfriends, and like your sister, and your mom and all like share deep things with close girls today. But I've noticed like guys, they kind of share with their wives. That's actually kind of interesting. So really the only person that Michael spill his whole beans to. And I would assume Brett your person for Brett your now that you say that I mean again breads are pretty emotional in terms of like. I mean, he's he can talk through his emotions and that type of thing. So he's pretty emotional in that sense. But yeah, I think now that I think about it. It's not like I mean, I'm with them a lot. He he definitely has his people a couple a couple people in his life and close friends that I think he can kind of turn too. But I think yeah, I think it is kind of I'm probably that that person he goes to other than you know, when he's really going through things or like has that creative juice. So he'll write a song. Like that. Only gets. It's not necessarily super super deep. It only gets to a certain kind of level but other than that. Yeah. Usually, it's kinda talking through things. That's maybe why we stay up until three in the morning, and I'm talking about God knows what? But yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Okay. And we're gonna wrap up soon. I could talk forever. But what do you think the key to happy marriages being married to musician? Like what what are key things that you decide to do on a daily basis to enjoy this lifestyle? And marriage because obviously you love Brett. But then you throw this whole world on top of it. What do you think is essential to enjoy this lifestyle? As a why, you know, I think for me, the the biggest thing initially, at least was in probably still has to just at least understand it. And know kind of be Maluku of what's going on that doesn't mean I need to be there for every single thing or be there to make decisions. I mean Brett that does all that stuff. This is his career. And this is his thing. But it just helps I feel like me be able to support him. And then also just have an understanding of wrist for myself piece of what's going on and just being in tune with that person. But in terms of the key. I mean, yeah, I think that support and understanding is the biggest thing I think that's with any relationship. But with this career, it's different. And you do you know, you are faced with some challenges that or things that are just maybe different from your average career lifestyle. So just supporting each other through that it can also be, you know, just kind of scary. 'cause you don't really know what next year is going to bring you don't know how you know. This new song you're going to he's going to release or record is gonna do. I mean, really it's kind of in a sense out of your control. So I think just support and being on the same page communication is big and. Interest. It again, it took me some time to just understand it and just be there for him and be okay with sharing my husband with the world, and and being bona role in that sense. I like to be someone who's like kinda behind the scenes, I don't I don't necessarily need to be onstage. That is. So like, not me. So I'm very happy that he that's his thing. I don't you know, I don't need that at all. But being able to just understand what that means for him. And and all that is just is so important, I think and getting back to how we talked on it a little bit not losing yourself because I do feel like another big part for me of being able to enjoy this life is realizing that yes, it is going to be Michael's flow has the career is always is just a rolling machine that you have to roll it. And I feel like the struggle could be if you fight that flow and that like you now. Are are not you are sacrificing yourself as your own individual because you are going with your husband's flow more. But really I've been able to wrap my head around like it's not like, I'm sacrificing myself. She's the this career is always on a big rolling machine. That's a really really good point. Have you been able to embrace that it that Brett's not more valuable in the relationship than you just because his career is the one that dictates the flow. Yeah. That's I mean, those are really good points. I definitely gone through that. And did you have to rapper head around? Do it took me. It took me a little time to just kind of really understand it. Sure. That's not fair. Like, why don't we drop everything for your career? I have a career, and I have thing. But it's like it's not like they are doing it intentionally just sort of has to happen. Yeah. Absolutely. It's so true. And and I think that going back to that too is just that. It also means you kind of. I mean, you're not with your husband all the time. So he's you know, he's on the road all the time. And I find myself being like, okay? Well, I just have to be cool with going to this wedding by myself going to lot of family occasions, family functions. But me because I know he would want to be there. But it's he's his, you know, it's very demanding. And so being okay with that. But yeah, I think there were times where I felt like, okay, wait. What about me like, I'm kinda losing myself? And then in all this. But I think it's just finding your thing yet finding what's important to you. And and I'm sure Michael's the same way. It's like Brett's will support me with anything that I do. And so finding what makes me happy. What makes me tick it takes a little bit of an adjustment. Because again this lifestyle is, and it's big, you know, rolling machine like you said, there's something always going on. And it's on to the next thing or what are things pop up like a days half to say. Yes to yes. That's another huge one can't make huge plans. No, no. It's like we. But I thought we were going to go to the park or dinner or thought we were gonna go on this trip that now we have short, and it was gonna be like special. We had two other couples coming out. And then all of a sudden they got asked to sing at the Grammys. What are you gonna do say, no our trip? Yeah. Absolutely not happens all the time. And it happens fast. It does happen fast. But I think I think the thing for me was just to also understand that not only I needed to find something, you know, things that were important to me. And know that you know, I had you know to focus on myself to and find what makes me happy and not just put all of my energy into his career. But but also just understand that there's only really I mean, you kind of have a sweet spot in if things are working and thank God right now things are going. Well, we've got a ride you really do. It's kind of an hour. Never like, you can't be like a, I don't know. Like, you know, maybe I'll try this again next year like with a lot of careers. You know, you can kind of work in different arenas inbound's back and forth, or like, I wanna pursue this side layer in the hotspot, you're so right. You have to go go. Yeah. So I think understanding that. And I know. No, you know, how tough it is for them to. It's not just a it's like it gets as much as they enjoy it. And they love it. I know it's exhausting, and and kind of scary, and, you know, exciting all at the same time. So yeah. So I think the biggest thing again was just being like understanding that this is this is you got to like everything you can. And when you have these opportunities and hope for the best because for example, like Graham as if no sorry Australia that next year. They'd never ask again fame might not okay onto the next. Yeah. So so I think that's also just understanding the whole thing. And and just being okay with this right now how awesome for Brett though to be with someone so understanding because that has to be such a such a. Not relief, but such a blessing and his life that he has a wife who gets it. You know, we'll means a lot to the husband did not have to come home. And like fight fight you an already fighting for his career and then having to butt heads because you're unhappy. But for you to be able to understand that is a huge blessing for him. Yeah. I think that I think that they're a lot of the wives were girlfriends, I think have to be that way. At least it's kind of a common thing that I see in red throughout all of them is that it may look their relationships may look different. But I think that you you have to have your person to come home to to to help you through all those things and be understanding because it's just it's not going to work. So I don't know. I think that I think that that's that's a really a really big thing. And I think that I I would assume that most most husbands on the. The road or wives on the road would agree that their significant others, you know, is a really good support system. And and yeah, I think adding that extra layer of stress or tension is a lot when they're going through all these these new things, and and this crazy life Gracie fun life. But he I try and be the as much as I can the constant and the the one who isn't the stress not to say that I don't probably stress times. But yeah, but on whole, yeah. And I think again, like like, I said, I think a lot of the wives. That's it in a different way. That's a very common thread that I see everyone's kind of the the the one in the background. But also the one that destroys the backbone of blue of the relationship. Yeah. Yeah. So so. Great. Okay. So we're gonna have to wrap up would talk to you forever. But oh my gosh. We've already been talking now fifteen minutes, so I like to wrap up with leave your light. So just leave some inspiration for everyone listening of how you have navigated live. What you've learned what you'd like to share with others anything that has helped you in your life to this point that you think is something worth sharing. Yeah. I mean, I think really the biggest thing is just be kind of others. And you know, I think we can all have perceptions of who who is what they're going through if their life looks perfect whether it's on Instagram or whatever it is. But at the end of the day, we're all human beings, and we're all going through, you know, we're all fighting battle. And I know that's kind of that might sound kind of silly. Because we all as a common thing that you hear be kind others. But it's it's simple. I really think it is even if it's a smile, it's a high San. Something positive. I just it just breaks, my heart. When it when I see things on Instagram at our negative or assumptions, and I just think that we all need lift each other up like especially as women like support each other lift each other up be proud of each other and just like make this world better place because when people are happy, I feel good things happen. Just you know, again, just be kind kind you do that. So well, and do you. Well, thanks, you and bread are such a great inspirational couple are. So so great St. a couple like you guys. Honestly are so inspiring your little baby. 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URGENT | HOW TO GET FUNDED NOW!!! How to Get Your Paycheck Protection Program Funding NOW

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URGENT | HOW TO GET FUNDED NOW!!! How to Get Your Paycheck Protection Program Funding NOW

"Yeah you have questions. America's Number One business coach has answers. You're from Minnesota. Here's another edition of ask. Clay anything on the thrive time business coach radio show. Yes yes man. For many of you know that's what you've been told you're trying to get the paycheck protection funding that you so rightly deserve. You're calling your banks to follow up and you're being no we haven't funded yet. Nope we haven't funded you yet. Yes we want to fund you but we haven't funded you yet. But yet. The vast majority nearly all of my clients have been funded. Why have many of my clients been funded in? Why haven't you been funded on today's show? We attempt to bridge the gap by interviewing here Brett Denton with eight ten capital and he is funding hundreds of small business owners from coast to Coast Brett Denton with eight ten capital on today's show. Brett didn't take you for taking at your schedule to join us. I hope you're doing well my friend. Hey we have so many thrives all across the country that are really really struggling to get the funding that they need and deserve. There's this mysterious program called the paycheck protection program which is being funded by the small business administration in conjunction with the federal government. And everybody's heard about it. They've seen news conferences about it but people are really struggling to receive the funding that they need Brett. Tell us how the listeners out there can get funded right now yes so. It's a bit of a quagmire and so I work at company called a ten capital H. in capitals lender and we are just cranking through the system. Faster can and so. It's very simple process if you make it simple and so We have a quick links which I think maybe Klay you can find that link for people. All they need to do is go to that links and they'll just hang out. It's all basic information you know. What kind of business are you What's your wages? What kind of profit did you make? Very simple is they have any questions. just have Mitt the application and then I will help on the back sides and then really all we need is proof of whatever the wages are so if you're an S. corporation. We need to get your w threes and if he took owner draws indicate one so those are proof along with your payroll report to hear an LLC. We need to get your schedule C. Right if you might have to have a conversation with your accountant to get some of these things but really only need a few pieces of Clement. Here uploaded and And we can get. These people approve now. We are waiting for the president to sign that bill when the president signs that bill then we will start submitting these things directly to the SBA and start working on getting a little numbers and get people funded so the the the the organization is called eight ten capital whereas eighteen capital based yes. We're we're based in Boise Idaho. Now I've heard from many listeners. Many many listeners. Not Two not three not five not fifty maybe somewhere near one hundred that have applied at chase at Bank of America and other banks and they still haven't heard back from their banks. Do you plan on responding back to people with a more timely manner if people when people have questions about the application. Can they reach you? Yeah here's the thing. So they can call my cell phone number directly they can apply through that and we can get as long as people have the right documents. We can get everything approved and ready for some middle in as little as ten minutes. I mean it just. It doesn't take very long. We just have to have the right documents and get people knocked out. You know I think the answer. I don't know. Let's be frank with you but it doesn't take too long to get done and I just wanted to listeners. To know out there pretty much all of our clients I would say except for maybe ten at this point have received their paycheck protection program funding. And it's because they found aggressive organizations like eighteen capital that are helping to get this funding. And just so we're clear you get two and a half times your monthly payroll and you do not have to pay it back as long as you adhere to the guidelines being rolled out by the small business administration so again if you WanNa get that funding I if you want to get that funding right now. Email us to info at thrive time show dot com. That's Info at thrive time show dot com and emails Info at thrive time show dot com. I will immediately text you the link so you and Brett can begin conversation and you can get this funding that you so desperately need in so many states. Where a great people like you Brett Brett you of physical fitness gym. It's a training gym in Boise Idaho. And you've been shut down for how long now shut down for a while. We're going on two months now and when you're shutdown can you has that impacted your revenue when you aren't allowed to train people. In a gym that specializes in training. Humans yeah I mean we you know we went to the virtual router like most people but nevertheless we saw at least a fifty percent. I think that will continue to drop as this thing continues to go on. So you're in the boat with the thrives and if people WANNA look you up to make sure that you weren't born yesterday you can go. Travel FIT DOT COM Kaby L. FIT DOT COM CABAL DOT COM but thrive nation. Do not miss out on the compensation that you so rightly deserve when your First Amendment right to peaceably assemble has been violated. And you can't run business. She can't see your customers. You can't sell stuff. Many of you are deemed as non essential businesses even though even the listeners out there who are deemed essential businesses. Everybody that I know has been affected. Negatively as a result of this government shutdown. Email us right now. Info at thrive time show DOT com. That's info at drive time. Show DOT COM. Email us now. We're going to help you coach you through this entire process. I will text you a link. I'll also get you in touch with Brett Dennen. Brett didn't thank you for joining us right here. On the thrive time show. You appreciate that one. Last thing that people need to understand is just like a bread line once they run out of bread and out of bread. Instead of tying is of the essence we have to get your applications. We have to get them approved that we can submit as soon as possible breath. I appreciate you my friend. I can't wait to talk to you later today. Thank you for helping out hundreds and hundreds of great drivers out there who are just trying to get the paycheck protection funding and thank you. All right thrive nation we're interviewing real thrives from coast to coast who've gone through this same exact paycheck protection program funding process that you're going through Bill Mountain. Welcome onto the thrive time show. How are you sir good? Good thank you bill. Where's home for you sir? I'm in northeast. Pennsylvania Northeast Pennsylvania. Okay okay now. You applied for the paycheck protection program. A when did you first apply for the paycheck protection program funding? It was right after the. They came out with before they come out with. P P P it was when the the SBA came out with their e ideal whatever that funding was yup. I got right on right on it. Right there So it was like de Monday Jumped on it and the banks weren't even clear about it. They they did. They have a link on their on their website. Click on the link and I clicked on the Lincoln. It took me right to the site. Well that's when I started the process and then the PC came out Within that week I think at the end of that week. I play for the PCP. And what did you actually have? A point received funding. Have you got the funding? I have I have the funding as of today this morning My wife called me and said the money is in the account. Okay and I'M NOT GONNA ask you how much money is in the account but is it two and a half times. Your monthly payrolls correct. It is and what it was what we apply for applied work in. What industry are you in? I'm in the carpet cleaning. Industry got it. Got It and you but you actually did receive the funding movie. Could you believe it when your wife told you? Did you think it wouldn't happen or are you relieved or you stressed? What what? How did you process receiving the funding? I mean that was getting to the point. I mean we're going by and I just said well if we if we do it we don't if not we're we're GONNA we're GonNa do our best to survive without it But you know you're kind of back your mind. You're hoping but when the bank emailed me last week and said they email being said that you've been approved and then the next day I got an email and says if you've been if you've been approved you're gonna get your money The next day and so from that point and then they sent me some papers and documents owner that I had to sign and and and scan and get back to them which I did right away. You know then then then it gave me some more hope that we were going to get it. And then I I've heard from other friends of mine. Once a chiropractor and one is a little a contractor just came in at Sun and they have both received. There's just same thing timeframe but then yesterday or today okay. Okay and I guess my final question for you sir and again. I appreciate you doing this impromptu interview. I'm just want to get this out right away to people. Want words of hope or encouragement. Would you have for the people that have applied? And they have yet to receive the funding. They've been told the funding's coming. What words of encouragement would you have for them? How would you encourage them to hang in there? you know You keep keep keep working. Keep trying keep applying if you need to if the second wave phase comes out Yup I really I. I don't trust the government but I do trust the president that he is he. He's in the corner of business owners and so You know I I think I think he's behind the scenes pushing it to him and vice president pence brother. I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. If I could give you a hug I would now that we know that statistically the corona virus is operatives how come out and follow up with that. That's going to be the secret handshake here. At the time shows will actually shake hands. It'll be crazy crazy. People looked at the data. It who've decided to shake hands but again thank you so much Bill Mountain. Hope you have a great rest of your day take your bye bye all right Dr Nation. It's a very special occasion because I'm interviewing my wife on the show bird how are you? I'm doing great glad to be here. Hey We have so many thrive irs half-million folks out there that are desperately trying to get the paycheck protection program funding and I would. I'd like it if you could share with listeners. The process that you went through to claim the paycheck protection program funding for our companies. Can you share the process? Yes so you know. Luckily we have some great relationships with several banks here in town and You know it doesn't help everyone right this minute but moving forward make sure you always have. I'd say at least a banker in town that you've got a great working relationship with that knows your company. The growth of your company All that kind of stuff so anyways. We are very lucky and blessed that we have several of those relationships with several different banks in town so we applied I To one of the banks that we have a relationship and applied immediately first day sent in the information and I think for some of you will recall then. They changed that application like very next day so that we send a new application. The next day While I sent that application off another banker from another bank reach out to me and said Hey we'd like to find your own and I let them know like we we've already applied somewhere else and then I started thinking about it and thought you know as much as we have applied somewhere else. I'd had no contact with the people at the bank. Descend enough form and it kind of feels a little bit like. Did it go anywhere? Has Anyone gotten this And they're a great bank. They're wonderful but I thought you know what? Let me just reach back out to people who are reaching out to me and So we went ahead and And got back in touch with the bank that reached out to us and got all the paperwork in and they find it very quickly and then I reached out to the initial bank and let them know you know. Let him know. Hey just draw our application. Because we've been funded and I realized at that point. They were so inundated with applications They were super nice and there was like thanks for letting US know but they haven't even gotten to art so I think that the number one thing you can do is you've got to have relationships that thinkers I started off with wherever you hold your company's accounts with or any loans that you have Reach out to those people. I The people who who see your accounts who you bring all your deposits to because they're going to want to keep your business and they're gonNA WANNA help your company. They don't WanNa lose your account. They don't WanNa see you go out of business I'd start there and you know if you apply a couple places just as soon as you get. People know but some of these places. You're you're applying. You don't have contact with anyone so you don't know you're like did anyone get my application where we are in this process You know if you're able to have contacts with someone that's happened with us on the second application. They were in contact with me. I mean almost hourly they were on it. Hey get me these things by this time. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA take this anymore. We WanNA hurry up and get you guys find it So that of course helps when you have and that again it comes from a relationship with a banker. Now you recently. We're following up on the economic injury. Disaster loan the economic injury disaster. And you discovered something fabulous today. Tell listeners what you discovered. That one to me was a little bit like really nebulous because I we applied the first day seven to apply for everything right but he can go back in the side. You know what you need what you want. And we applied and I had gotten a response saying that we had registered in someone who would reach out but here we're hearing about people getting the loan and and so I was really confused about why it had no contact with my. You know I the nothing ever been registration so anyways. I talked to someone today at the SPCA W- office he called. And I said I just. I don't know if I have applied or haven't I filled out a form and he kept asking if I'd had like a number that nobody can get a number but I did go through and fill out you. Answer the questions and click the blue box at the bottom and then he told me. Don't do it in Google Chrome 'cause that won't work so that's exactly where I had been doing it. So that made like light. Go off and buy okay. So I told immediately called him. Said people need to know that. Because I'm sure other people are doing in Google Chrome. He didn't tell me why didn't give me a reason. He just don't use Google chrome so I'm GonNa do it again Using not Google chrome and then he also said that you know for any of us who are going through in filling out an application. Now because it's not funded yet. Hopefully it'll fund today You know where they passed the bill. It's like he goes. They probably wouldn't even count that application so make sure you get a new application in once. They have funds because he doesn't know he's like they might just disregard those who came when it wasn't funded. The does that make sense. You talked to somebody at the small business administration over the phone. I did yes okay. And so you hopped on the phone. You talk to them and they told you if you applied via google chrome. They couldn't count. It didn't work. The application does not work with Google Chrome. Yeah yeah he just told me. I didn't ask him questions. Maybe I should have but he just. I was making less than the things he said. And you go and do not you them? Because it won't work by the way nell chrome folks. It's only the world's most popular search engine browser. Not that we use for everything. I've I've definitely was using that before. Okay so if you're out there today. Look at verse. Encouragement th REIVER'S. I promise you you gotta stay persistent. You got to be consistent so far. Every single thrive or that. I've talked to WHO has been funded. Has the following three common denominators? One they did not get funded from Bank of America to they did not get funded from Chase Bank and three. They applied at multiple banks. Every thrive I know for one? Has Those three common denominators to their funding. Vanessa thank you so much for joining us. You're beautiful day lovey. Burn by all right thrive nation. This is the day that the Lord has made and we should rejoice and be glad in it and I'm so sorry that many of you are your businesses are shut down. Many of you are not stuck in a Rut as we wait for our governors to read the Constitution for the first time and recognize the First Amendment right to peaceably assemble as we wait for the mayors and governors to discover that the corona virus is now about as dangerous as the common flu or or less dangerous according to research done by Stanford and research done by the Center for Disease Control but as sobering up and figuring out. They don't have the right to your business down you and I have to feed our families and so I'm trying to interview real thrives out there just like you who are going through this and so on today's show we're joined with. Fill the Thrill Green Phil how are you sir? I'm doing great. How you doing man? I wish I could call you on a better occasion. You know I mean there's so many great things happening for so many people but we had a member of the thrive nation. Who's been to many conferences? Who actually has taken their own life. And I I don't even know how to start with that and so I thought you're not going to do. I'm going to call real people like you. Who did receive the PAYCHECK Protection Program Funding? And so that we hope will you can encourage people and share with them your truth. When did you first apply for the paycheck protection program funding sir? Golly that Good Actual Day. I don't remember but it was like the very day they pass. The president signed a bill. I had my application completed. And I'M NOT GONNA ask how much money you you did receive. But have you received two and a half times your monthly payroll into your bank account when you saw money going in there or saw show up. Did you have a feeling of disbelief? Did you think I can't believe this actually happened? Did you believe it? I mean what what's been your emotional state as you saw the money fund Believed for sure I mean I have to admit I was. There was a day or two there would. I thought I was a little skeptical that this would actually happen but I kept a you know I just hung in there and did what I was supposed to do and work. Now what would you say on emotional level to a thrive out there? Who's not doing well? Because they can't afford to pay their people today. They've worked fifteen years twenty years twenty five years to build something that's been taken away from them entrepreneur entrepreneurial but what would you say to say? Hang in there and do the best you can. I mean it's It is tough when that happens. I've I know I've I've been there before and What are you going through? It seems like they're you know the world's coming to an end and there's there's no There's no getting away from it and things will never get better but You know there's every day's a new day and And there's always hope for for tomorrow. Do you have a a Bible verse or a book or a mantra a song as saying anything that you go back to when things are tough. Well I mean I always I don't know the actual verse but Yeah I always think about you know would Christ told us that you know. He gives us his peace and No matter what we're going through so we have that available for us. And what do you do for a living sir? What do you do for a living? Well I own Rapid Repair Perot. It's a handyman service. What is your website? I just wanted Roberson. Oh you're a real person sure. Www DOT rapid repair pro dot com. We'll brother I appreciate you so much for joining us in because I have the luxury of being in the studio with Smart People. Read to the thrive irs the divers that you're referencing. I believe John of fourteen twenty seven from the Bible reads peace. I leave with you my peace I give you I do not give to you as the world gives do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid is. Is that the verse. You were referencing sir brother. I appreciate you so much for for doing an impromptu interview. I know it's probably not the most comfortable thing in the world to be interviewed randomly by a podcast host. I really do appreciate you my friend and I hope you have a great rest of your day clay and I appreciate everything you're doing out there for you take care bye all right Dr Nation. I wish I could be joining many of you on a better occasion but unfortunately many of you all have applied for the paycheck protection program funding. And you have been good people. You follow the rules. You apply at one bank and you haven't heard anything back yet. Now luckily if you will email me right now at Info at info at drive time show dot com info at drive time show dot com. I have specific bankers and specific links to blending institutions that are funding this paycheck protection program. All Day I have connections and access. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa make it available for you. All you have to do is email me to info at thrive time show dot com. But I wanted to interview real thriving. Who's actually been funded so that way that you would know that it you actually there are. There are real people that have been funded. So Lindsey blankenship. Thank you for joining us here. On the thrive time show. How are you ma'am? I'm doing good now that I have the defending. I'm doing great now. Where are you located there? Ma'am so we've got two locations and ironically southern Colorado location in Alamosa so Alamos Colorado correct and what's the name of Your Company? Just the people can verify that you're a real revitalize medical spa and what what your web address. Www dot revitalize medical spa dot com. And I won't ask how much you you were funded that kind of thing. I JUST WANNA know. Did you receive two and a half times your monthly payroll? We absolutely did and we. They were more than fair to us. our company was very small part time company company in two thousand nine hundred ninety so they ignored our twenty nineteen averages and they just went based on our January February twenty twenty averages. Now we have a lot of reiver's out there that are just at their wits end. I mean people have worked twenty years to build company. I talked to a guy today. He's been building a handyman company for over a decade and he hasn't been able to see any customers in a month and he and his wife are big savers. They save and think about this. If you're in business for twelve months a year right and you operated a twenty percent profit you essentially lost maybe ten percent of your. You might have lost. I mean maybe your whole year's income your whole year's profits. I mean if you think about if he was one month of the year two months of the year this guy was saying he's lost his whole year's profits and he was just telling me he didn't believe that anybody has been funded he's like. I haven't talked to a single person that's been fun. I haven't talked to anybody. What encouragement would you have for? Somebody like that. Who just feels like this isn't going to happen. Oh Gosh I was there. Two days ago and so I can relate John. I think persistence we. We put an applications with three. Different banks It just finally cancelled the other two once. We got approved with this one but persistence and faith and Just believe it's going to happen. We we had the money wired yesterday. I and you know the local brewery in town. He had his money wired into his bank account last week. So I know it's happening. I know personal people and ourselves that it's happening to But I can relate with the With the nerve racking you know invitee that until you see that money in the bank deposited how it feels you are a wonderful lady and Amelia speaks so highly of you in the world of You. Guys. I just You know you got the Mike you got about a half million people listening many of which need a little hope little encouragement media. Lindsey blankenship Pep Talk. I know you're not a motivational speaker. But I hear you're a quality person for multiple sources. So what would you say to anybody out there? What would be your words of encouragement just in general or maybe the mindset that you're the approach you're having as you're navigating corona virus panic can even though you know as as members of we just saw today at the Department of Justice came out and said they're going to rule on behalf of citizens and when as it relates to the right to peaceably assemble as more and more politicians are discovering the First Amendment right to peaceably assemble for the first time. As more and more data showing that the virus may be about as dangerous or less dangerous than the common flu according to the Stanford Study and all the new studies as all that data is coming out. I mean we're stuck to just try to make an income and feed our families during this time. What encouragement would you have people? That are the fight today Well I think my my my biggest Asset is that I'm also a PA and medically licensed. And so I. I've been ignoring the news and reading the medical medical literature and Trista Ticks. And I think everybody just needs to turn the news and the biased media and both sides of politicians Off and start reading the facts because the facts are this virus is not as serious. It's it's maybe a little more than the flu but not as serious and He our volumes nationally are down forty five percent It's just people are not getting sick and dying like you know the the false People said initially from Saudi Arabia. I think We just heard one statistic and the fear spread like wildfire and Fear is dangerous and and I think if people just start learning the true facts and Having safe and I think that's been my main source of hope Knowing that all of these a the majority of this is lies and people have an alternative agenda or using their power to get what they want and and instilling fear on the nation. And I think we need to stop in rise it up and Not let fear impact us. You know I would encourage listeners. If you go to thrive time show DOT COM FORWARD SLASH CORONA VIRUS. You can see all the stats. They're all cited. You can see the videos you can do that. Have you. Listened to any of our shows or have you gone to the corona virus page or. Where are you getting your data from? Well I definitely listen to your shows. My husband and I are addicted There's some other influencers that we appreciate. That seem like they're Stats dan politically biased I Love Ben Shapiro. I think he's great to Agree but I go to the ER and log onto my medical journal Websites and read Medical Journal data and and this is truly unbiased stuff. So that's where I go And if people want to see that data work and they get that data they wanna see what you're saying. I I imagine You could up-to-date is one of my favorite sites you WanNa because it's just medical stats I don't know if you just a non medical person could get into that Any journals are a little bit behind with current stats like New England's medicine and those kinds of journals. I love but I would. Just Start Googling you know Medical Journal. Co Ed or or things like that and do not pay attention to media or politics and if you go to thrive time show dot com forward slash corona virus folks. I have the actual report up there for you so you can actually read the real report that predicted two point two million deaths. You can see it. You can see Dr Deborah burks adjusting that number down to eight thousand projected deaths You can see the Stanford Study. That's showing the viruses between fifty five and eighty five times less dangerous than they thought. You can see Dr Ben Carson. The famous cardiologist talking about how ninety eight percent of the people who are even severely compromised. Who get it are fine. You can also see Dr Scott Janssen talking about this. There's so much data up there. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us today and I know you're busy and I just appreciate you taking time to encourage of some listeners. Yes thanks for having me play You take care boss and all right bye-bye all right. Tim. Scotch welcome. Onto the thrive time. Show Sir how are you? I'm your man. It's a weird weird reason to interview on the show but could you share with the listeners. Out there what do you do for a living what? What's what. What is Your Business Do. I'm a home builder in new braunfels. Texas and What's what's your company's website the listeners to know that you are a real person. Www dot scotch construction dot com. And have you actually received the paycheck protection program funding? I have so many listeners out? There are believing that no-one has received it. I'm hearing this countless times that no one has actually received the funding. So I just wanted to ask you. I'M NOT GONNA ask you how much money you got funded but when you saw the money show up in your account was it in fact two and a half times your monthly payroll. Yes and when you looked at the money going in your account did or maybe before you received it. Did you believe that? Maybe you wouldn't get the funding or whatever you think. I was getting nervous because I didn't get funded in until after the big announcement came out. I was out of UNSCREW THE PD program. So I started to get nervous but fortunately my Loan application had been submitted in my funds have been locked in so I I got a few days later. It was fun. Okay so you are are now somebody who knows that the funding is in your account. What would you say to a listener out there? That's just starting to lose hope. We don't want to lose. We don't want any. We don't want another thrive to commit suicide. I mean one is too much I mean just cash just rip part out to hear that I mean what would you say? What words of encouragement would you have their surfer? Anybody out there. That is kind of you know losing little bit of hope. They don't know if they're actually going to get funded. I think I would say just stick at it. keep keep Keep after your banker or whoever you're dealing with and just stay on them. Make sure it gets done. It will get done. I think the first round the others maybe some Looseness with with some of the organizations were founded and they took a lot of money. Quick and The smaller guys didn't get all the funding that they needed port at that point because they're out of funds and I think they're trying to correct that and gets onto folks. Just hang in there and and keep up with your bankers in. What's Your Your web address? One more time for anybody out there wants to verify that you are in fact a real human. Www dot scotch construction dot com. Well Mr Scotch. I appreciate you so much for joining us here. Tim and I hope you have a great rest of your day surf again. Thrived nation if you want to receive that paycheck protection funding. And you've not yet received it. Please email me right now. Info at thrive time show DOT com. That's Info at thrive time show dot com. I'll get you connected with bankers plural bankers that have actually funded hundreds of our real clients and listeners. Don't miss out on this email right now. Info at thrive time show DOT com. That's Info and thrive time show DOT COM and now without further ado free to what boop if you've got to check out this album check it out. It's Kanye West's album. Jesus is king in at the time when we it's stormy out there it's rough. We all probably did a great album like this to listen to. God is keen. We just so just at the soul of when I get to heaven. Got a pink jeep. Perfect composure when I scream at the sofa a focus I mean. I'm just focused Lena. Slow Clean Soda. Refer people charge. Did the same thing that know everybody. Andy did Jesus Christ did the logic. They say that we start on Monday. But not assigned date won't be abondoned any man John. Eight three three redid descendants of Abraham basically bring John Increase. Mix To whom the sons that. These made a wrench. Do not lose hope. Reach out to us right now today. At Info at thrive time show DOT com.

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2020 B4G New Years Bash

Biz4Good Show

40:28 min | 7 months ago

2020 B4G New Years Bash

"Welcome to the Biz for good show where we highlight misfits outcasts and renegades for with a being good at doing good movement we spotlight people that are changing the world by having integrity and honesty and creating an environment of connection the showing. The true secrets is excess. And creating a life of greater impact so come on board and create your own phys for good life godless. Welcome welcome well. Good Ladies and gentlemen into the show Biz Burgers. You'll have your host Bobby Glenn James Along with the Bill G. Tune in the Laura People we're going to have some clipping on this show. This is this is going to be the most clipped show when I say clipping it means the sound to laugh but it's beautiful. Yeah like that show show ladies and gentlemen. This is our annual New Year's Eve it is midnight yes all of these. Little children are here at midnight. I know it's a beautiful thing. Yeah we can all stay up and and have fun once a year once a year last year. I swear I was like tired. It may have been that energy drinks that I drink just a minute ago. But the bloodshed stroke meaning really really fast. It's great this. This is wonderful wonderful. Wow tell us about the show Ryan says we have no script. We have no thing. Hey we're just going. Welcome to season. Four the BIZ. Forget show up for the year. Two Thousand Eight hundred twenty. The people awesome we. We love to talk a little bit about last year shows people we had on the show. Our favorite shows stuff flight that and memorable things that we've done all of that good stuff. We have a special national guests here today Brett Brett because Mr Brett rich did something pretty amazing this week. You did in the last couple of days and he could do this partner did you tell. Did he tell you what he did. He told me he told me. So this week alone you listen into all of season two thousand nine hundred all season three. Yeah alary episode from January to December. And now you're uh-huh and now you're on strike so out of this show so instead of us just talking about stuff we remember where we have somebody that has a fresh in their head right now. Even though we lived we lived we lived. I'm sure undermine days is probably about as good as your memory to last her so but I've got to ask. Do you have a favorite the episode. Do you have a favorite thing anything through this last year that you can remember some some something that there are a lot of really good things from. I'm from last year. I mean the last episode with kids I mean you can't you can't beat that. That was a macy. He was awesome. And I started with that one you did. I was going back backwards. And then the my my ask my APP can wanted to go back to January. Go forward so I did but Jason. We'll we'll man he was he was funny. He was funny awesome. It was a blast. I loved the road trips. Oh the road trip segments of the road trip. We need to do more roadtrips. This is what I liked about road trip so the road trips were fun because you had so many different people on there and and like the one the one where you went to Silicon Valley Label Silicon Valley in Utah. All those slopes. That's how he caused. Yeah we we the go-to excellence Los. We just walked up and down the the hallway and met people that were doing amazing stuff that the cancer cancer it's like thirty letters long really really obscure cancer that basically when you find out your you usually don't don't live through it. Those ladies were so powerful best friend yes Aaron. We're yeah we're diagnose the same day as these are just people we saw. Wow this is weird live on air we have a full. It's it was just weird but But you know how many sites that happen I should ever put my phone on it. It makes it fun out six or seven times in twelve months. He's got your stats. Yeah it's fun we we don't edit on on the show cool. That has a few places where you said. We're GONNA edit that out. Yeah the we we believe me. I always try to slip it in and see anything. You're just one term. I don't believe in what they're talking about. It just wants you want me to edit it I I will do that. I will say and then we'll tell what happened just ended because it was so golden. Good so the. Jason Hewlett. I like thank you for talking about that because to me. It was the fact that Jason would come to the studio. Take the time to actually be here not do remote like so many people do and and I know he. He did confess that he lives like fifteen minutes away. Raymond Communion Yeah. Yeah so all the literally is everything would be. Actually he could make fun. Yeah we I mean he literally is one of my idols. When it comes to professional speaker the guy understands entertain inspire and educate so well and that he he was so humble and such a cool dude absolutely and it wasn't it wasn't that it was so funny? I mean it was funny. He's hilarious but I was really impressed. At how deep we got. Yeah you got deep on that show and you're just like wow and having a good time. Did the the terrorist attack door loss right. razzmatazz dinosaur was amazing. I just I just randomly the cat thing cat store Laura Tuesday. He saw the word cat. GATT was that what you guys would think of that. Sounds I our kitties That's all that the one I sent of doing what it was at the liberal. What the on the show today winning? We'll get okay. I did spike the punch with a little bit of mountain. I do but I'm sure it's not enough to make us stay up all night just half tonight so normally we have a place to go and to do but but We don't but we do have a person in house that was on season. Two to season to season to the advocate introduced Ryan. Because I talked to do you interrupting rafting the speakers. Momo's always bobby way interrupting people so much shot up. We have the powerful next to me here. She's as an advocate for domestic violence domestic violence domestic violence. I can't talk 'cause I got a cat and I saw that mulling interviewing doing so. How's it how's it been going since the last we spoke well Just going around trying to network can and get support from local companies and gaining a a tribe of members that are going to be helping us. So it's slow growing up some personal things going on so once that gets off my plate look out so she starts monster monster truck. Right Advocate Monster. TRAK is shot to empower victims of abuse Bay metaphorically smashing beans they carrie in the cars. That will be smashing so we love you. Thank you we. We've done a few things and you just you show up and I I love that right. There is somebody that's dedicated to doing. Good she showing up is half the battle right right and she shows up. It's so cool. We we did the hero the hero deal where we we did at discovering your superpower with the kids and everybody we had caused play players and every day. It was so amazing and you came as Addie and It was just really really cool. I do want to point out on that episode I have to keep pointing it Out So on that episode there was a part where we dressed up and I had a captain America hat. Oh here we go. I Captain America on and one of the cost Blake late. 'cause 'cause played players stayed there stuff serious seriously and I grabbed authorities hammer mill near and the person was like that is horrible. Horrible Sev- religious. And then what happens in game comes out and what happened. I called it a year ahead. Captain America was was holding on the Mir near. I call it a year ahead of the movie is obvious Clinton thing ever hear of Eh everybody. Here's her story like four times splashed seeing the picture at least five spoiler where it wasn't it if you haven't seen endgame yet then you're saturation just watching down by for being you being amazing and showing up. Thank you are clapped. Although the clap we should we just did record that Allie. He's going to say now. We could just use that for our claps now. Everybody soups in there. We should everybody would one tier three. Elsie we're GONNA make our own sound effects. We won't need those anymore. Can we read you. The cat on me GonNa Catch right here. We're not even close to on kind of topic and usually really is a real show but tonight we're just having fun and it is midnight and energy drinks others have had quite a few pieces of candy they should thatch. Those donut Holy Gluten free got really holy gone every single one of them got eaten well most simmer. Tomorrow I'm taking is GonNa Grab One Heart One. Momo's me like I got to sleep with you. Complained about Tom's ready You're not supposed to go that far. Gosh the baby would sell like one. Yeah this is my son was uncover every time for your anytime. You want to get you guys. We got them all the rudder. Could you Ryan without you with all the stimulate Ryan there. Bobby was not bobby. Yup It's weird like hey I'm bobby high. The right people hiber naturally John Laurel anyway morals are brought down. That's not a word right but it's close to the right word. Okay so going into the season for season four. What are we going to be doing what they are they gonNA tell us? Oh well I'm asking you because I have no clue we've come to new me and Ryan talked about this a lot When we started this when Ryan came to me and said hey bobby I wanNA do a podcast? And you're you're crazy enough to have some fun with me and we totally we did. We had all kinds of visions of grandeur and didn't really know what we were looking for and it's kind of become so just a beautiful thing almost just for you and me. I know we have listeners. We've had as many as thirty five hundred listeners. At one time a month mostly not not mostly Japanese we had nine hundred seventy S. A lot of work yeah. We had German measles several German listeners. Yeah I don't know why I don't know how we did that British British. I don't know you kept track of the we ever get into Mexico Mexico. Nobody nobody from the wrong. I said so. We talked about this. A locker occur for season for tobacco Z.. is when it's everybody off track. It's just a beautiful stimulation. Nation is like so. I'm not sure vein. Just bring it okay so so so are thought to really just love what we do an interview. Amazing people like we've been doing and and quit worrying about what that looks like no more worry and just just having fun have fun. We really have interviewed having. We don't really have interviewed some amazing people. We've cried on the show. We've laughed a lot on the show and we've seen people do do some powerful powerful things got some signatures. Oh Yeah we've got so many amazing people that have that are. On the wall we have to the Stamford on wipe it yeah. I don't know how we can wipe it I mean we got. We got marketing there who didn't have to get on a chair to get up there right next to Julie Lee all the stand on the chair. I asked marketing if he needed a chair and he just looked at me like I was an idiot. And then that's awesome monster truck. Oh yeah she's she's the only one that drew drew stuff but she drew an actual truck on the wall so cool. I mean artists. What can I say it has to be a famous artist? Yeah so I mean we. We've had singers just so many amazing people doing so many powerful things and season for. We're just say we're just dedicated to to getting it out there. That being good and doing good is the the most important thing we can do in life now focusing on other people and what we can do to lighten or Brighton or connect to folks that need it and if we all did that we would be more successful to we would we. Would we would even even make more money. If if you focused more on your clients and your potential customers of really what you could do for them and how you can make this world a better place you will be more successful. We've personally believe it is the most powerful business model on the planet and I don't understand and why everybody doesn't get that. It's not a marketing gimmick. It's not a way to manipulate people. It's it's just be good good and do good simple as that his name and then we record that we did all right. Did you have a favorite episode this year. Hands Down here took Jason. It's my favorite. But we had John Lee Dumas us. We did have John. That was was like a spitfire. What are we doing Puska outdone? We asked him a question and it was like five instead of like. I think John has done this once. Or twice yeah I mean when you have a podcast that you do every day I guess you Kinda get good at that kind of stuff. That was a good one. I think the highlight for that for me is just you know you get to listen to these guys and then actually talked to them like. Wow that's cool. Yeah or with the summit with the PODCAST. Oh my Gosh Tim Jackson Jackson. What's crazy crazy but it was good Dave Jackson Tim Jackson? I was like wait a minute day. Jackson is not right. CAST strange Dave Jackson talking about. He's another human being. That was so gracious. He came to the podcast summit. And you know when. Somebody's a big influence or like that and stuff. What did I do? Click something you kill the video Thanks for watching cast. Yeah you don't have to see it. Dave Jackson was so gracious. I mean he comes to the Utah when there's an influence or like that gets hundreds of thousands downloads and and you just don't know what to expect. You don't know what to expect from somebody somebody like that you're like what are they going to have an attitude or they're gonna you know was so down to earth and so cool and just hung out with us all day long just best and amazing human being and we had fun on the show did you. Did you listen to that show. Yeah Yeah why did he listen than everyone else so I should show I like that and you know it's funny. You actually talked about that on the show and he gave some advice. I talked about him being cool. Colin genuine about When you get someone that's the podcast and you have them come and speak live and you don't know what you're GONNA get? He's like yeah you got them. All the biggest thing that I got from Dave was to treat your listeners. Like it's one person because it is aw person. Listening has her headphones on their in their car. Their one person treat them like that and you'll connect to your audience a lot better. I have still done a horrible job of that episode to you actually would catch myself. You'd say you you and then you start back. People people out there mogens we crap about that. She's smiling. She's like yeah. What else do I call them? Guys Hey guys you know what I'm doing. That's why I keep my mouth just one person you went out there listening to me you. You want person car still I still love. They don't believe me. I just had a flashback to hee-haw for some reason yeah. I don't know why I know most listeners. Don't even know who he is another. And you go home okay. I just went there. I don't remember the last episode. It hasn't hit. It will probably after this yes which Chebet with Priscilla. Oh yeah we were like in sync singing. Yeah that was really. We're Nice Sing Sing. Sony things talk talk with GonNa start a band. All that's right. We end lyrics. We were writing lyrics. No no that was the last episode. We haven't released yet this beat box and you're just like we should do it right now right now. There's got to help us. What are the lyrics? Happy New Year. Happy Happy Happy. Happy happy new. We're here to twenty twenty twenty twenty happy new. Who did this whistles okay? We're never we're not GONNA get a rap contract just not gonNA happen when everybody in the audience starts going good. He sounds good but we don't sound good it. Yes sometimes. We're on. Both both ways is just putting it. Yeah but you know what this year. It's been interesting for us. Three years a lot of podcasters through what they call pod phase where you get tired of doing it and and it's it you you quit doing or you're not as good at doing it and I think me and Ryan Kinda hit some of that wall. Don't you think yelling at a new baby coming so exactly so twenty. He's going to be interesting when that baby gloves. Because I'll have to put it here and you know we'll have a real cry. I Tell Ryan since my twenty two year old daughter was first born. That was my last good night's sleep. Yeah Yeah One keeps getting bad advice parents. You're never gonNA sleep again two years I've done forget about now. Don't worry about sleeping it. It is worth it is it is worth it isn't it is sleep this literally just hard snow things in the world old in the middle of the night as the morning late at night and we got to conversations going on it is really important because just having a thing so the parent is one of the hardest things it's on the planet and also one of the absolutely most rewarding amazing things on the time of you never know until you have that child to love. Aw and it's hard it is it's really hard. You want him to question world brother. You're GonNa make so many mistakes apparent. Brian I'm sorry. Are you think you know know I different thinking. That's good. No yourself the real you who actually comes out mosaic. Maybe he learned from me what not to do that. What you're saying bobby? Taking not being parenting is is. It's it's the asquith central. Be Good do good isn't it. It is the most rewarding. It's the most good you can do in this world. I mean it is the love the love that you just giving giving give all the time. It's and it's so rewarding. It is so congratulations Ryan We're looking forward to you. have in your hands your wife having your baby ah baby. It's going to be a decade. No House by House I was summer of love. Sixty nine beat that baby. Nineteen eighty a good year. Yeah for wine thanks. I love random and Going somewhere with this other than we just WANNA congratulate you Ryan. Thank you and you know as you'll you'll be a great dad it's cool anyways. Yeah we're talking about parenting and stuff and I just want to talk about and I may cry here I apologize. I don't know why I don't know why I apologize. But so I just want to say something I So I I have a cousin and she was my best friend growing up in her a lot of fun in high school and she. She just passed away a few days ago on Christmas and I I just can't tell you how much I loved that person. She was the funnest happiest craziest. Human being on the planet and we we had so much fun together and my mom said that I kept her out of trouble. But I'm not so sure. Who kept two out of trouble but we were a better people when we were together and I would just like to to honor her for two thousand nineteen and I just thought about it as a parent I I know her mom? It was a wonderful human being and her her sisters and her daughters. She was just a great great person and integrate palm and repair. And I just wanted to acknowledge that on the show and Sorry say how much I loved her. Love heard still and took this in a way different turn podge. What's her name? Michelle Shelly Shelly. Dedicate this podcast gonNA hoop for shelling. Absolutely she would love that by the way he would love Momma all right everyone kind of three all right one Jew. Oh That you guys. You're so awesome. This has been such an amazing ride. And I'm excited for for the next here and for however many years to come right. Thank you for coming up to me that day and go bubble. You WanNa do a podcast. And I'm like the crap is a podcast talk radio. Do that sounds a firm. What's that I hadn't talked to him for two weeks? Yeah he's not GonNa do that thing that I had head crap in here and we started recording right. It was awesome. We we did our first. How many three or four episodes with the phone We have to unreleased released episodes on our phone and probably couple that we did on the actual phone and then we got to Mike and since then we spent over five grand probably on equipment it but yes I tell them. It's a hobby. Other people do other hobbies my hobby I was. I gargle with salt water in his home. Which I have from my voice honey and limit any other stuff you you can remember about the shows of? It's just been a privilege to be on the shows with you Ryan. It's been privileged to go on a road trips together. I I going down to St. George is one of my favorite. I think that was the season to season. Do going down to. You're wearing yours. EPI SHIRT I am. I'm in honor of. Does everybody know this spice cream is an ice cream. Italian is in frozen custard says. Yeah Me Ryan Ryan was down there. We went to the plays and we interview people we were we. Were trying to find something for 'cause it's hot and we're trying to just get a refreshment and the you know before we left and we saw that place and there was a ton of people there must be good. Yeah right and it was really good. Oh my interviews. The owners and was so good. I love it when we when we jump up to somebody and go. Hey you guys WanNa be our show. We interviewed a really cool guy. The car thing you are the AH it's right up. There may twelve hundred stock down in Saint George. Everybody signs in the donating money for collegiate Like petition. That was so fun I saw. I my first truck that first vehicle that me and My dad rebuilt together. You're sixty six Chevy truck nice. It looked exactly like mine except for I beat the crap out of rectal the Times because I was like I was like thirteen or fourteen and we'd dry Texas so we drive when we're nine and so I'm into like you stole it. Yeah Yeah so I'm driving in the back roads all over the place and you have hit a few fenceposts these fine folks behind his probably have a curfew. Oh that's right. I don't know I mean I'm going to be parents taking notes words. I'm Komo you gotta say at least something any last words. She's good l.. Ninety you're already said her words because yeah it's been it's been more has been on every New Year's eve episode. Yes you have. She wouldn't even on a friends episode three so that was fun that it wasn't cool. They all sat around each other up thirty years. You guys been friends over thirty years all four of the five of them. Aw I knew you've been for thirty years you've kept in touch. They're good friends. I know I can attest they talk to each other and go out and do stuff. That's cool you can can have friendship awards. They do have some interesting stories that if you WanNa hear some interesting stories bobby. What is the one where the where the this one girl was home alone and so the house? My favorite favorite. Everyone was so into his doors. The earring yet. They took out in the in the parking lot. Douglas that was really does the river. Water Greek slipped off and it wasn't even hurt. Why was she `tatoes the river and the I never answered yet because my roommates were Wacko? That's all I can say you were right. And that's why we get along so well together body. Just throw a little wacko dig in their baby but the Wacko Wacko past. Just say they're awesome. Thank you thank you see. That was a compliment. It's my way of complementing talk Eh. Did we mention crazy on two thousand nine hundred or is that or was that I don't know if the Walker he's into that was season to wait waited crazy. Yeah so for those. That don't know what currently is crazy is still crazy. Messed messed up. A word was it. You was it Kelly. I missed the word. You're the one that's eight. cravenly invented currently That's a beautiful thing. I love. aww Cool crazy engineer. We're going to make this. All the words is that you made up in two thousand nine hundred. I think Muslim all right. Oh yeah what what happened to. The man Tabula SSS and what was the. Oh yeah that was anymore for some reason you lift it up damage anymore because it was negative. Is I sound like a man Bro. Seinfeld call man Bro. I I bro Manzir. Their Manziel vans year. We're going to keep them. And then we had A. We had a lady thing that was really cool. Twenty years younger. Sorry Jerry Seinfeld episode. It's okay I think we've officially brought in the New Year. Thanks Audience Erin. You guys are so amazing is committed to have some fun this year. Get some great guests and spread the love. You've of being good and doing good and we could use the love word in business and it's okay awesome good against the noise choice. People spread the word with the good unit. Take us out right all right well. I'm going to let Britain take us out right right so for those of you. That don't know we always in the show here. It does not here. He'll be he'll probably take on sound sex right over here. It's all right but can you be John plummer diploma here. You don't have it buddy all have it ain't gonNA happen. Wow Wow that sounds like What's his name? Yeah Adam Sandler you sound just like yeah that went into an Adam Sandler Adam sandlers. Yeah well we knew how to took him. We took him right off track and we were going to end the show and that is not happening. We're talking well. Let me I mean just tell you. How are we GONNA do this? So we start out quiet and we say Hashtag be good. do good everybody in the row. Everybody's GonNa say it and we're GONNA say it three times now now by the third time we get really loud and we go up. We not not everything every single around quiet the second time we get a little louder. I didn't get a nerd voice. I think his little Nerdier the years. But it's kind of Goshen Russian. I'm pushing it just communicating all right by the third time we are going four Balki. Okay okay third time pastime. Biegel got very good okay. We need a little Christmas one with all the bills come voice. LS Your favorite Christmas. Time love it. K- raked all right. Let's do this take us out. Fake Ryan has Ah Okay I'm good. Thank you for listening to the Biz. Good show podcast. 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Risky Business #587 -- Full scale of Indian hacking-for-hire revealed

Risky Business

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Risky Business #587 -- Full scale of Indian hacking-for-hire revealed

"Hi Everyone and welcome to Ski Business Your Weekly. Information Security, news, and current affairs show name's Patrick Grade this week. Show is brought to you by attack by cubic thanks to them for that attack very own Chris Kennedy will be along in this week. Sponsored of you'd to talk about how it. Some organizations threat intelligence has moved from being a nice to have to being central to glue team efforts. Efforts as you hear, he says Mater Attack Mike's Threat Intel actionable and some orbs who applying on hard mode, a really kicking some goals that way that is sponsoring interview with thanks to attack Iq but I. of course, it is time for a check the week. Security news headlines of that good friend Adam y lower and Adam last week. We spoke about Google tags report about this mysterious Indian half. Company Reuters and Citizen Lab have now published a whole bunch of additional information on that. Yeah. The story has been fleshed out a lot. Since we talked about it last week because it was a little bit vague, exactly what the story was, but now yes. Money like last week. We were saying gee, wonder why. This isn't making big news. Just everywhere yeah, the citizen Lab I think some some researches from Norton lifelock. Now they've been trying to screw which they've dubbed Dock Basin which is private sector of high crew out of India, the company appears to be cold. Bella trucks. And yet I've been seeing carrying out you know years worth of fishing intrusion into just a real grab bag of organizations and individuals on law firms, and all sorts and citizen babs down the sort of interesting state of analysis where they've. They managed to think through looking into the euro shortness they were looking. We're using figure out onto photographer. Because email addresses were in the Urals being shortened, and then use that to go out and make contact with a bunch of the organizations being targeted and try and do some sort of analysis about what the relationships between the targets where and yet does come out as looking like you know mercenary hacker from breaking into people. You know in lawsuits and. Climate Change, related activism, and all sorts of things, presumably four for real money. Yeah, I mean look. It's even funnier than them. Using Yariel shortness I mean there was a Russian crew one of the Russian ipt. Crews got pretty civilian Barris when they left like they were using a third party. You are all short Nah, but they forgot to like tick a box or something, which meant that anyone could come along and see all of this shortened. Which? Targets but this one I mean this is even worse because they actually made their own url shorter's. But they just did it sequentially like eight short was just like increment by one so that let citizen lab completely enumerate like tens of thousands of targets and put this whole thing together. They worked on this thing for like over year. Yeah, the company's called. Bell Trucks Infotech Services and we got to expect that there's going to be an extradition request for the guy who runs this company, apparently already investigating some of this I mean it's a pretty big story. It is a big story. Story the. You know there's a few aspects I want is the you know the way that it's being who's paying. The bills ultimately 'cause obviously these. This crew has been working on this kind of stuff for some seven years according to the citizens labs research now that's a lot of time as a number of people that work there, you can see them on Lincoln getting endorsements, and from people for their hacking services, which is pretty wild. He really knows how to spearfish g mail box. For Skill. Earning activists g males. But there's also the guy that runs this us. He'll Gupta apparently has already been indicted by the US for doing kind of hack for higher stuff. A few years back in a still at large in India. There's are a little bit unclear as to exactly what happened with that particular prosecution, but yeah, this is obviously gotten kinda too big for it to just be. Be As under the radar as it was, and it just kind of shows that you know there's one firm during, and there's a whole bunch and you know the clearly. There is a real market for I was surprised at the scale of this. The you know the number of customers they must have had to support this work and I can't imagine it was cheap. Doing, really was access to my own boxes, and it was mostly fishing right, so it's not like they would. Developing like AP cried Melwert, that sort of stuff which I actually got to the point that was there was that in the end? This stuff does work right. It's good enough to get workaday hacking done either need you know the full suite of? Capabilities that this kind of you know there's sufficient getting some mailboxes steal some documents you know is kind of enough odd for you know if you're going after you know, people involved in a lawsuit or people involved in the sort of corporate stuff, corporate activism motorway of. The targets happened to be does get the job done, which is the? Way. Yeah I mean look you look at the targeting here and what are going after that guy going off to the private equity firm kkr, they were going after muddy waters the short-selling firm they're going after all sorts as well as activists Senate just looks like straight up money behind this, and as we heard last week. Google Tags Shane Huntley appeared on risky business to say that. He believes that certainly this group, and presumably it easiest group. He was talking about The Indian alcohol affirm be surprised if there was another one that we're talking about in the space of a week, but he also pointed out that. He suspects that they are also doing some work for governments, so yeah, great story a couple of links in this week showing notes including a link to the citizen lab post about it Yeah, so check it out now. Moving on to this is kind of unbelievable right and people follow me on twitter to see me tweeting about this. Forbes has got a headline up which says. Huge cyberattacks attempt to silence black rights movement with Diaz attacks and sure enough. They've got some data here, that says. Attacks against black rights movements have increased by a factor of like. Over Thousand Times right, and then you see who provided them with that data and it's cloudflare. Nazi blows cloudflare. Who currently hosting a height sought that refers to black people using the N. word and mocks mixed race, ill children, and that site is called chimp mania, and they host that site and now they're doing marketing campaigns about how they protecting black Rod's websites. They can eat a thousand they can. They can eat all the. As far as I'm concerned thousand times last week. Yes, A. Yeah this is just it's. It's pretty shameful the. Leveraging this for marketing spin sure they did soak some dos up, but that's also kind of what what they do and say like that. It's hard for them to be able to just come out and say Oh, look at us doing good win. Sometime the Nazis I want to see them do a marketing post about how they have protected Nazi websites and that Cimini Assad. Gone do that. I do an honest blog post where you talk to us about the racist Haba, you talk to us about the Nazis that you. Ate All the eight all. Don't worry listeners. We're GONNA move on into more fun. INFOSEC news stuff, but but how do you lack the inside in a situation like this to publish a post like that? You Know How do you? How do you not? How do you not see what kids being? It's an amazing lack of self awareness like incredible. If you think black lives matter. Get the Nazis off your platform. Oh maybe. I'll to the next item, and this is an interesting one comes to us via the. IBM apparently will no longer. Offer developed or research facial recognition technology, and they're saying that you know there's too much potential for abuse and just in lot of protests and blah. Blah Blah Blah, blah, but one does question is funny. Thing is is You know maybe some of us at risk q a little bit cynical because their immediate reaction to this was perhaps this is just an excuse for them to exit a market. They weren't really performing. Well Yeah right I mean. Maybe we're a little cynical, but IBM perhaps wasn't super. Well. Known for having extremely functional facial recognition takes maybe maybe it an excuse to exit the market. Maybe it's you know shameless marketing as well, yeah. Either way I guess it's good that we see corporate big nine saying something, but the facial recognition thing is gonNA. Need more than just IBM exiting that. Maybe they went through and so and. France is launching a bug bounty program into its contact, tracing APP and we actually have seen some pretty bad bugs in some APPs. We're not talking about so much. The so-called gap ones right but these Raleigh. Ryan APPs from various countries, one of the big problems with from Qatar and Amnesty International Post about. May Twenty seven cloudy. Guarneri actually reached out to me about that. We didn't cover it at the time, but yeah, it looks like the French. Government wants to find out if they've got similar problems, which is a good thing to do, but look as winifred pointed out in this week's. In this week's newsletter, it looks like contact tracing APPs Maya flopped a little bit. Updike Australia, but we sort of picked it around twenty five percent of the population and I. Don't think anyone else has really done much better. Yeah I mean even in Qatar the example ahead like mandatory of the applications right? The question is whether all this has really been particularly effective thing and. It's good to have made a variety of different approaches. The French one was interesting in that it was built by a consortium of open source and volunteers, and then adopted as opposed to being centrally designed by the government, which is the thing you don't expect resulted a master, the Central Government Angle I mean but then supporting that with you know bug bounties and things like that is an approach, my end up, giving them something of a different least from the security perspective, but yeah, you're right. They overrule Kinda Utility of Technology assisted contract tracing through. Bluetooth and stuff versus just good old-fashioned. Make another way you been. Yeah, maybe it hasn't been as effective as we would. Have you know as we were hopeful you month or two ago? We did actually see a report out of the Victorian. Health Service here in stride that said that they use the technology to identify close contact that they would have otherwise missed so I think it is helpful, but certainly not as helpful as we as we SORTA hoped it would be, but but it's difficult to measure as well because you look at a lot of the countries where these APPs have rolled out and as I say the Australia want at twenty five percent adoption is actually at the most successful end. But we have recorded. We recorded no new cases yesterday. I I believe New Zealand. Your country is now covered free right? Yeah, I mean there's so many other moving pats in the puzzle that it's hard to tell whether the contract rising specifically was super effective, or whether it was just going to one of the many many things going on as different countries grappled with. We got this next story from cyber skirt and by showing. That looks at a bunch of senior executives at a German company that was tossed with procuring personal protective equipment them being targeted by parties unknown. Yeah and very very rapidly off. The German government issued its edicts to you know, have a number of companies get sort at manufacturing and distribution. And then very very soon after. A bunch of executives there get targeted now. The research didn't say whether or not they were just targeted with was subsequently successful intrusions, but yeah, there's a correlation between very very rapid moving on targets wants to govern had done a thing. You know that's really interesting yet now, look I want to talk now about a story that ran on risky DOT Biz. This is one that I was really proud to to publish on the side. It was written by Brent Bret benefit our ETA, and it really takes a good look at the global pharmaceutical supply chain that looks at vaccine research. Looks at what. What various? Singing agencies are actually looking when they going off an owning all these pharmaceutical. Companies I actually ask Brett to just give us a bit of in far. Owners report and here's what he had to say. So we spoke to executives from pharmaceutical firms we spoke to. At medical research institutions. SPEC disarm threat analysts. We spoke to tighten lawyers. Anyone could help us understand what the target was in these attacks. What are these actors going after? The pharmaceutical manufacturing process crosses a lot of what is it takes a lot of time. It deals with both raw materials and specialist medical equipment that is fairly easy for one st to corner the market on so in a lot of ways. Some of these back to actors are probably just doing their homework to make sure that they're not going to get caught by surprise. If a particular vaccine or treatment would be successful. They WanNa make sure that they have necessary access to the raw materials in the specialist equipment die need to produce or acquire that drive vaccine should there be any geopolitical conflict that prevents them Bong on the open market. So yeah, I mean it's it's. It's a really fascinating piece. I mean breaded. I helped out a tiny bit. There was one moment where I spoke to one of my contacts. WHO has a lot of visibility into? Targeting and I ask you know what a what are they going after? This guy told me look they pretty much taking anything that isn't nailed down right like so. It's not even clear that they have clear tasking. I know you've read the story. Didn't what did you think of it? I thought it was a really good summary of of how everything fits together, and there's a bunch of moving parts in the story that you know I just didn't really understand in the complexity of pharmaceutical supply chains, and the extent to which you know, having a knowledge of what drugs may end up working and what those prerequisites might be for example, and being able to hedge rows in advance Ratatouille on controllers and events, and just all of the kind of global interconnected night share of. Drug, manufacturing, and testing and research and patents the way they offered so you have a lot of moving parts to I, didn't really I was vaguely aware but understand how everything fits together and explains much. Well, why? We've seen such a you know sort of almost scattergun approach, because we are necessarily understand all of the parts of that of that puzzle that they're trying to pull together through espionage, and of course, also the the the aspect of waste states you know believe it's actually enables interest and within their rights in within this offer and rights to just do that going help to. The Chinese for example help themselves to be able to make drugs that are being developed in the US. Just in case they end up. Working I went up yeah. Yeah Brett worked on this for weeks. Right so we've been talking about the whole time. There was so many crazy twists and turns through this. He actually managed to get an interview with a C. Suite executive at humongous pharmaceutical company, and that was a really interesting thing because you ask someone like that. If you were the health minister of a country that had and you could ask your intelligence service to go out. Out and get any information. What would you ask them to go and get? And they all loved the exercise. You know what I mean. They love the thought exercise of Ood. That's really intriguing and I think one of the one of the great quotes from that particular person that appears early in the story is when is when you know Brett pointed to these Chinese companies who said we'll look women factoring these copies of these American drugs and we figured out how to do it from the patent applications and this executive just said that is a complete lie because we always obvious. Manufacturing methods in patents even though we're not supposed to, because so so that this doesn't happen so it just I mean it's. It's a really interesting. Look into a very complicated world I just love this I. Love It I. Love it I love it. Yeah, no, it's really really solid work and. I think everyone should go and have read. Yes, it's. It's it's the cold y spies, a targeting vaccine, research and big thanks to to the Hewlett Foundation Cyber Initiative who pay Brett's wage so that he can go and do stories like that. Moving on this, this is another good one one. Scrape here this one by Shannon Vavra a bipartisan Senate, review in the United. States has found that the United States has done a pretty poor job of. Essentially security reviews against. Chinese telecoms before they connect. Networks and this has led them into a position. Now they're having to revoke licenses for like. China Telecom and stuff it's a it's a good rate. Yeah, this is interesting because it's been coming to a head and recently. With interaction, we've seen between the US government and the. Presence of Chinese operators in the US market that they now go back and look at how it ended up like this and you know the level of oversight that this particular. Committee has been doing those same pretty shonky cases of Chinese. State links telcos. They just haven't had any sort of review. There's never got round to it despite the being in the in the country for years, so yeah, it's a pretty damning look affiliate rubbish and relaxed State of oversight on Chinese telecoms, operating in the US yeah, it was interesting because when you and I I spoke about this whole issue about China Telecom's license to get revoked. This is a bit politics. And then I had a couple of people. Tap Me on the shoulder and say. Look at this. This particular document and then Brett Brett ripped into it. Yeah I mean. It turns out that they really are leveraging. Their connections to US networks to do some pretty bad things like they leverage by the state, so it is you know this isn't politics? This one it's. It's pretty much and mazing. How much the US has actually made public on that like when you know where to look you just look at it and go. Oh, my God, no wonder they kicking them out. Anyway what have we got next more problems with voting APP I mean. Let's not dwell on this one, but this one's called Omni belt by democracy live, and apparently it's. It's not really fit for purpose. Yeah this is one of the ones where generates mail and voting forms amas a bunch of dumb mistakes here where even when you're using this application degenerate, which you then submit via mail, it still telling me back to the operator all of your. Management who you are so kind of defeats the secret of the ballot and a bunch of other options for kind of ballot, stuffing and things that you really you don't want The research has also identified. That doesn't look like there's never any effective scaredy review. They have vulnerable in policies. Garbage all the things. You'd expect from Klaus voting software unfortunately. Yet another one from cyber scoop this one by Jeff, doing good work over there this way everyone on and yeah. It looks like facebook is suing another domain registrar for allowing people to register shonky domain. So this is the second one. Isn't it that we've seen? At least the him I think he's been going. After a number of kind of main privacy, registrars and things, and you know for the amount of money that those registrars make on obscuring a domain name making the WHO has recorded look stupid. You know they're really not making much money for it. Like how I have a whole bunch of skin in that particular game, I suppose facebook imagining they're gonNA roll over pretty quicken to send a message to all of the other operators that are making a buck month or whatever? During this kind of thing, yeah, I mean that's my feeling as well which is like some of the other registrar. It's GonNa get around right like the fifth lawsuit or something. You Might WanNa start gripping. Staff is bookstore and say what pops out right. Yeah exactly right and some of these demands were like instagram hijack dot com. which you know, I'm and now here I know there's no humans involved in issuing process anymore, but yeah, like come on really. Kevin Component Zd net is reporting on some more. Safely. Yeah there's been a couple more micro architecture side channel attacks. One, which is kind of involved in getting secrets out of the Intel secure enclave by kind of shoehorning the data of the enclave's practicing out into a bit of cash that they already know how to. Do. Channel Stefan the other. One involves a new kind of shared buffer which is used between CPU Kohl's you can. Propagate out into an area that they already aside channel out of and that one's interesting, because the random like hardware system, random number generator functions us that this is one of the first examples of micro sexual side channel information leakage between CPU 'cause all the rest of the seen largely require you to be on the same core in a different hypothyroid for example but yeah, this one is interesting. Interesting because of that, but it's kind of a nation thing because it only involves stuff that is outside of the main cause traversing across this kind of spatial secret buffer, the knowing you about so cloud environments perhaps care about this. It's also I think. doesn't affect more modern, Zeon, the only five an lend lighter CPA so you know compared to some of the other side channel stopped. Sending really interesting, but I don't know that. It's quite as bad as I those by Intel must be just so sick of this stuff by now as technica has a write up on this by Dan Goodin where it says that you can use this to retrieve things like he's out of the Exxon life. I mean that is a pretty big deal. Yes, yes, well I suppose I was more thinking about the the random, the cross staff, the one we can use that to get material out of the enclave is certainly interesting, because of the that's GonNa have kind of has one job and not let him McCain material them in some sentence circumstances you know dram is one of the common ones you know where the enclave's involved in that you do. Have you know untrusted users on the hardware from the point of view of the Darien scheme, so yeah, that that is actually the thing that perhaps is more generally applicable than the other one. Is If. We give it about broken. In Two thousand twenty series. I mean. But. It look staying with with hardware security. Apparently, DOPP is going to spin up a bug bounty CEAC to look into hardware security issues. which I think is good. Obviously, lots of interesting things to be found in hardware I'm a little confused as to exactly what's happening here and it talks about encouraging bounties for looking for fiscal hardware tax, and then the amounts of money, and not very high, and then you don't have access to the actual hardware, and you're supposed to do it, and then they start talking about like Cova daughter and something in the cloud, and I was a little confused about about exactly what this is and you're trying to find complicated how bugs I. Don't know just didn't. It seemed a little strange the right up to me. And I quote Joe Fits in. This one is saying. Basically, he says politely. Walls. Being very polite could lock finding people who are going to be able to go after these sort of bugs when you're offering twenty five thousand dollar awards because it's a very skill set. A yeah, exactly. It did seem a little bit. Perhaps police thought. Maybe maybe they have some specific targets and scenarios that you know are gonna work with this kind of scheme, but on the face of it seems a little bit. Yet now, look, we've got. A bunch of ransomware stories just wiz through this week. It's sort of felt like a couple of weeks. They ransomware crews had a break with something you know. Maybe they were off having having a vacation on the along the black. Sea Coast. You're having a good time back on deck. A firm called S T engineering. They got done and I. Think they have some defense contracts as well so that. A big aerospace and defense contractor I think that they claiming that this was the American subsidiary, but. That's a big organization, and they have contracts sink based in Singapore but Military Engineering, Chinese helicopters and stuff. Yes, a big place. Yeah, well I think there was a contractor that serves NASA as well got breached. Come Knock Honduras. Apparently a big IT services company. They reported four point five billion in revenue last year, and they've. They're having a bad time with ransomware. Amazed by the look of course anytime, an IT service operated like back. It's like he got I. Think Downstream major the customers as you are at pains to point out every. Just one funny, too, because a whole bunch of NAP NASR devices. Getting ransomware I mean that's happened before, but I think there was a bug in them that we spoke about like a couple of weeks ago. where I'm like are they're probably going to get ransom. On that I caught that. And Yeah sure enough, not nes- getting ransomware. What else have we got? Krebs has a write up about how he tried to let the city of Florence in Alabama Nord that they had someone network. Who's was going to ransomware them and they were like Yep. Thanks, we took care of it eventually when he goes to the right person Apparently, they didn't take care of it because now. They're Branson Wed.. What else we got in the united. States is a good way to say. Kevin Kelly as bioline back. He's at NBC, News Now Honda in the United States. They plants or off line, because they've been ransomware in Australia drinks giant, they do be milk. All sorts of beverages lion. They employ seven thousand people across Australia. They have been ransomware. This is affecting production. What else have we got? We got to South African healthcare provider that operates forty nine hospitals. They've been ransom wed I mean Jeez. Sydney been a busy week on the ransomware friend, and nearly all of those are different ransomware cruise. Right them. As as double, the snake gang was a whole bunch of of people doing it. That's. I mean that's what off the list of of links in the news probably will fully a third of them getting ransomware. That's. Just kind of not tolerable. On the one hand like A. ransomware is at least dragging the kind of baseline up a little bit I. Think you know people care about scary, wouldn't it previously? But it's just a painful process to watch. You know we've also got this story. From The Netherlands about I company that got ransom wed, and then went off to their. MSSP saying you know we pay you so that we don't get ransomware and actually got some money in the end. Yeah, the judge decided that security was a famous could reasonably expect although the judge also did say that the fact that this company had asked for Week Apostles, 'cause the ones that they service provider that saint with through strong, maybe had caused a little bit of capability. Yeah, but they did get some cash neander. Some cash, not not a whole bunch of Kashmir with not enough to counter being ransomware, but yeah. Certainly we're thinking about go after your promoter. Why not? Well? It's a matter of time right before. There's a big one along those lines. Tell us about these Java. ransomware fits lives case reporting on. This is gonNA. Be Your Jan. this comes from some research out of a blackberry and KPMG. So the the right up was a little, a little bit confusing, but this this ransomware crew appears to like ship their ransomware as a modified like entire Java runtime. Not only like we're talking. We might fun of the crew last week. They had to Stola Jerry to be able to operate. They ransomware this particular. They package it into the area and then use that to. It's a whole Trojan. I'm I. Think this is like an anti aging agent. Kind of thing like if you like. They're burying the byte code for the the Java malware inside the JVM. Downtime Environment. which I mean that sounds like an engineering. Fix Looking for a problem, but. If it gets the job done which apparently it does. The I. We got some expert. How you remember a while back. We spoke about this bug effecting as in beyond windows. But affected win ten and we sort of came to the conclusion that people didn't panic. Because first of all you win ten and modern server. They're going to get patched more frequently and secondly on wind at least the decks desktops. He's not SNB's not reachable by default even server. I don't think it's it's reachable by default, so it's unlikely to result. In a colossal. Planet melting worm, but there is a now a proof of concept out there, which is a little bit hit and miss, but certainly veering towards being quite effective, yeah? It's a good example of the kind of exploit exploit Gulf the David One. Everyone loves to see you know taking a bag that really does look very difficult to exploit you. Know remotely and come up with if it is a little bit shonky I don't know that we're gonNA see a win. For All the reasons, we talked about previously beyond probation, not being a particular thing in the range of windows involved, but from an exploit research point, be interesting to look at the proof of concepts and see how. We got another right up here. This is another one from Catalan and it's about I-, UPN payback, and what's interesting about this I mean first of all the bug. Let's do some cool stuff like amplification for data set. Let's slide through UPNP devices onto the inside of networks, I mean it's cool. BOGGY can do stuff. The interesting thing about this story is like when you look at the number of UPNP reachable devices on the Internet now. Anywhere near where it used to be right, so that's kind of like a good news story in a way. Oh exactly a UPNP is one of those things that really did need to die, and we've seen implementation bugs number. This one's interesting, because it's kind of design thing that doesn't mechanism in UPN peewee. You Register Kovacs. Subscribe to events that happen, and this is basically being used as a mechanism to they make recruits outbound from the device under attack control and use it tomato. Tomato service use it. Daughter fell. You know, use it for going to suicide request. Forgery style sorts of attacks, so yeah, it's an interesting by cost thankfully. UPNP is just a shadow of its former self which is as good given. This is a pretty damn bug. Yes, thank God. This next story is are just thought. It was really really interesting when we look at. How technology can be abused the Commonwealth Bank here in Australia received a complaint from one of its customers that it was receiving abusive messages in the transaction days. So when you transfer money to someone online, you enter the amount you enter the account number, and then you enter you know invoice, number, one, two, three, four, five, or you know whatever? This this customer complained that they were receiving abusive messages from the violent. Ex Partner so the bank you know did something about that? I don't know exactly what they did about that, but then they actually gripped through other transactions just to see how much of a problem this was, and Oh, my God. It turns out that this sort of. Messaging via transaction nort's was just endemic. It's thing we've certainly heard. I've heard plenty of people doing not necessarily abusive purposes, but you know for for comedy transferring a backpack on Ford between the jobs. Bank Council sending messages you know in the transactions, essentially an instant and free, but it's a good example of what happens when you have any messaging mechanism, whatever it is is going to end up being abused by by Jerks, and I think the one of the outcomes of positive from here is them. In terms and conditions to say hey, you can't do that and if you do then you off. The banking platform, which I think is a really positive stamp men. If they managed to make one person get abused with that process thin. You know that's a good outcome Brett gave it the best headline in this newsletter, which was one dollar dirtbags. That was fantastic by the way. If you haven't subscribed, go subscribe to the newsletter. You can just hit risky dot Biz, and there is a subscribe button on the left hand side, and that'll take you through to our subscribe page, which has all of our information on it do go and check it out, it's. Usually about sixteen hundred to two thousand words of security news every week, Brett works really hard on its stuff. Anyway, I'm Oh, we've got a really good right up here from Dan Goodin over Technica. Just still people are giving deserve either. Them sign that they're not gonNA. Give end uses a to a accounts for free like free accounts which I just I don't get quite i. don't get the vitriol given that the consumer technology organization free accounts of their sales funnel right. That's they don't want free accounts. They want you to counts and the free accounts paid accounts. That's the model right. So why are you gonNA give free accounts a feature that's going to be an abuse magnet I don't get it. Go Yell at Google Right go yell. Yell at Google for not making hangouts in meat into right. That makes more sense to me. What I did. Find Interesting about this story. I think it's a really balanced right up which talks about how most people don't realize just how much of a problem live child abuse video streaming is I mean. It's a huge problem in anyone had to deal with this sort of stuff in their job. That will tell you about it, and it will really change your opinion on a lot of this stuff. I mean you're right like the story pulls together. A bunch of the nuances of this kind of calms. Take that you know the the treads cyberpunk. Let's crypt everything you know it'll be wonderful. Really just doesn't take into account child abuse. This one is very good example. Though so the the interesting aspect of being able to tie individual users down through some real world to increase the number. Of the front to. Put that together in signal as well tells peop- ties people to phone numbers. WHATSAPP ties. People to phone numbers facebook ties. You do an account right like and unless you've got a giant counter abuse team. Just doing this would be insane and unsure if you want to become a consumer play. Maybe you're going to do that, but they don't want to be a consumer play. They want to sell video conferencing services to business people and I agree exactly it makes it makes sense. You know what they're trying to do and I i. do think people are not really thinking big picture, not those. Critical of the approach. They've taken. Yeah, it's I think it's not but staying with zoom. Cisco Tell. US released details a couple of bucks. Yeah, there's a bug here. One of them was a pretty pretty dumb glenside bog. You know where you could say zip fall. UNPACK it without checking the pods, whilst was trying to render it with so that's a nice school. Once what you could just over, you could just write to arbitrary PAS. Yeah, you could. You could just kind of popped. Out in by falls out of the system and use that people's events, that's obviously not the sort of thing you want. In any thick client application that has multi uses in it I'm being real real classic I think that one other bog, which was another client side one so? Good they found and fixed You know obviously the other chat clients, and and Miss Systems have had similar sorts of things over the years, but this is the parallel lines software suffering why everything's better in a browser? Indeed Google has updated its IOS APPs. Sorry that you can now use things like Yuba. Case which is great, because like I did actually try to enroll my like little lightening UK on my iphone recently, and it was like didn't support and I was very sad so I'm GonNa have to do that again probably later today. Yeah, that's good. News Group has been working on this for a while, and it's just been so clunky using hob tokens with Google services on Iowa's up until now so good. They finally sorted. This went out, yeah! What else do we go out here? Are We got a new toll released from Bishop Fox. Yeah, this is a total. Our my scouts USA for numerous things that are available via the Java arm I interface trying to try to reverse a truck figure out how to attack job. Applications are my which you know, generally hopefully, nothing should any more lots of things, unfortunately I maybe ever attacking one of those things. This total has kind of like a dictionary of the Hashes. The are my services are identified by that. That you can use the scan to figure out what's available. If you don't have the source of the service to go and a reverse engineer, they've really symbols in the past for DC realization stuff every night. Yeah, well, this is a whole bunch of tooling to try and discover the in points that you can talk. Then attack them and attack midways work in the particular Jerry with the available library, so yeah, there's all kinds of Santa lava work. You know my my sympathies to. Impressed that? They released this stuff I gotta be honest. Yeah No, they have bishop box have had a pretty good. They've been pretty good at releasing tools and information and they style guide for example is also really good. They PINSTR reportings. Lots of good book comes out of there. We got a great story from New Zealand about a stolen key. Yes have a podcast series coming out of writing New Zealand state broadcaster here that has been looking into a case in the eighties where the New Zealand Security Intelligence. Service like alkaline domestic counter until agency broke into the Shaka Slovakian Embassy to steal the Warsaw Pact Cypher Codes The story is kind of being revealed by. The son of one of the people that actually went, and did the operation in many many years after the fact now Aris. I asked his playing kind of coy and saying they can't confirm whether or not. They did actually get the Czechoslovakian key material or not This good Cold War espionage stories from a town that I live in, so let's have you listen listen. Have you listened to the podcast yet? So. I'm halfway through the first episode there and he dropped the first one this week and it's it's really it's well put together. They've done a lot of work. The try and get Get all the good people all the people that are involved to talk about things despite how far ACAS and still how secret little is! Really really good. Listen well well worth it so far well. You can check that out in this week's show notes. That podcast is called the service. What else have we got here? Not Less, you had one job. Yes the a little list library that could. Expose had a bog way. If you were in the middle of connection you could bypass checking through Tillis session resumption This is obviously a pretty bad bog. Fortunately GonNA. Tell us as largely out of fashion these days. There's not that many things that use it I still think. Maybe he'll lip on UNIX on Lenox. Probably still use that would be. You don't need encryption on that. Why why have you know integrity and Crypto on your vindication? But. Yeah, that's an interesting bug. In Taylor with three station resumption where you let, the client connects to the real seven drop it, and then when it reconnects uses the resume feature. You can then use the resume without ever having the server can fake ever can do the resume without ever. Having had the key material, so it's really interesting going to technical bug. I don't know how much you know. How many good new Taylor's systems US -til one point three. It'll be three, but yeah, definitely crypto by comedy. That's actually it for the news. Thanks for joining us and I'll look forward to doing it all again next week. Much L. Tokyo Bet. That was Adam while or there with a check of the week. Security news headlines a big thanks to him for that. Time for this week sponsoring of you now and this week's show is brought to you by Iq. They make break in texting mutilation platform that you can use to test your security controls, so the whole thing is very very much aligned with mater attack, and as you're about to hear this sponsor Chris. Kennedy says some organizations actually making much better use of their threat until these days because they can actually take that threat Intel map the tower behind you to monitor attack, and then tested control against those specific techniques and wound up with. With really effective and responsive coverage here's Chris Kennedy is very interesting. I've got very very big sophisticated customer. Defense Industrial Fortune Five, company and and the person that I work with their is the director of Threat Intelligence and I'm and I see this person working directly with the Cisco on strategic initiatives with the sock on modeling and detection engineering efforts with the management team in the connection of threats, relations and I'm like. Why is threat until so important now in its because these kinds of this kind of content is kind of. This kind of modeling capability influences everything about their doing why, and so now threatened tells like the most important part of the organization where it used to be a luxury to the most sophisticated organization. So walk me through. How minor attack in the communication these type of threat information walk me through how that makes threat intelligence more valuable if you're talking about threat, intelligence in its traditional form of like file hashes an IP, addresses and things like that. Yeah, so well first and foremost like that kind of threat intelligence is largely very temporal, and so it's only useful for small period of time Wha, what's more important is the understanding of the technique and the associated actor with. and if you understand what those techniques are, then you can then begin to benchmark and measure what the specific capabilities controls. Put in place to defend against those so you might get a bit of threat Intel that says this particular group is coming off to you, and then all of a sudden. You've got an idea of their pace. More broadly than just the particularly data malware that climate you whatever? Go Yeah. It's important that you come up a level beyond those particulars, and you start managing your controls at the at the technique or the or the actual procedure levels. You understand how those things work. And when you do so that's a better way. Of course. There's going to be new threatened. Tell us you wanna tie these things together, but. Managing the threat information that's associated and being able to contribute that to your risk program, so you understand what controls are most important that helps you prioritize strategically to your sock operations, so you can assure your detection engineering functionalities would actually see that as control. And that's different than I. Oh sees, this is talk of this. Is this level of information? This level of framework like in minor attacker TDP's that are associated art, able to influence and shape all of the core structural components of the security program where I o sees because of the temporal nature, or basically something gets fed to the SOCK, says look for this for this time, so one of the reasons why I'm a little bit behind you on this is using the threat intelligence companies, and now actually shipping off modern mapped techniques with their intelligence. Well. I can tell you that I can tell you threat. Intelligence companies are certainly interested in trying to figure out how to do that. Because the technique. Will may implicate in IFC like like for example like an attacker will execute command and control through the connection to a known see to channel and sent some form of data, AL or download files way to. Receive Commands. That's the technique. The is it you will connect to this domain. And receive this kind of file or this kind of Hash so. You have a control that can detect for those things and monitor those kinds of things broadly is the important piece. The I see is the is the temporal piece. In the if you don't have ability to interrogate downloaded files, then you have a missing control in the entire stack, and that's a strategic piece of information. There is that you haven't met the specific of the control to the technique that you need. So one of the things that I've brought up with you a couple of times. Right is that you lean on minor attack. Pretty early on. It was a gamble right? You made a bet on minor attack, and it just seems to I mean if I'm year, I'm thinking that it's even exceeded my expectations in terms of how prevalent it's become, it just feels like every month. It's becoming a bigger and bigger deal, and just more more part of the landscape more part of the scenery. You know I mean he's got the sense. You get as well. Oh absolutely you know not so much so that our companies and a founding member of the Center for threatened formed offense with a minor ingenuity so We think that's really important, but some of the industry speaks to itself like every company. That's out there. Today is working to align what they do with minor attack, but. I mean the power behind it lies into has an on talk last week. with the someone else and Cisco it. It'd be technologies ation. He's like. So many of don't even know why we bought what we bought. Like what are the functional requirements definitions for the controls you buy? Most of them are stop smell. Where or Cyber attacks. Thank you very much. Chris Hybrid dead in their tracks down. Yeah, yeah, and now there's a real referential architecture to link to to say. This is a way to orchestrate Your organization by knowledge of these techniques actually stop really optional requirements. And that that's the very powerful piece that that I think the organizations that are embracing it see in that the technology vendors are now saying we'll. Crap I need to need to make sure that we're not gonNA line with that can speak the same language commonality of I. Feel like it does put pressure on them right because now there's actually a criteria that can be used to like validate. They claims whereas before there wasn't 'cause whether or not you make the claim that you'll control is gradually you know takes care of this technique. People are going to categorize it for you and then give you a possible file right so that's I think I think it's probably going to clean up a few dodgy vendors i. just have that feeling. What do you think of that? I am! Absolutely true and already happening like I. You got minor evaluations that are underway and they they're. They're taking threat actor behavior by threat actor by threat actor, and they're inviting industry to come and contribute their product and pay in. They will be a third party to provide data about how they're. They don't read them. They just give Dave about which it's possible file. Technique right like that gets tricky, though man like even though I'm a big fan of minor attack that gets tricky because for each technique is sub techniques, and there's different ways and this stuff. That's not in the Matrix yet and. Do going to be concerned that when you give. A vendor pass on a certain. Technique that really it's pretty trivial for an attack at to achieve the same objective just in a slightly different way. And they're gonNA slide by that product, but according to Matas testing. It should be possible. That makes me nervous. Yeah. I guess first and foremost miters provides data. They're not giving you a pass. Fail. Here's how we interrogated. Here's how we emulated the behavior. Here's how the proper responded. does that make sense for not let let industry consumed, so that's great. Actually understand that they're not giving you a passer file. They just giving you. You know we did to it and here's what happened. I understand that, but that will be interpreted as a pass or fail. Certainly does if if if I can make it look good. Seeing how the vendor response to that will actually be very telling, and that's going to be a key part of what drives increased Quality Zach and part to your point. Is that you know people are going to make decisions based off that and there needs to be a continuous process, and that's where I think like this is where the breed attack simulation industry is going to get legs. Is that now that we're going to have more transparent ways to evaluate if these product were using real known techniques then you gotta do that when it gets into your environment to or you. You de-tune these kinds of things turn off the key features because they break your applications that you by saying that says yes, and then it says no when you get it deployed, and so you're GonNa have to have a level continuous capability to keep that moving I. Think we're best positioned to do that because we're so deeply anchored into. How might attack works? We offer very transparent. attack simulation capability. And we're seeing in the rise of the threaten formed organization that you know this concept of continuous automated validation is an integral part of that consume either attack TCP DTP's align them to the key risks in the organization and exercise them. Let's see if we're actually defended or not. That's what the new Security Organization looks like I'll give you. I'll give you another use case within a within another customer, this gotten hit with a specific threat actor, blue fin seven at the time out Chan. And through that through that analysis, they found that it wasn't. It wasn't and lock stock and barrel aligned with what matters in seven was it had already evolved in some way there was a couple of techniques that were new and unique The river flowing around the rock basically. The the the the continuum has to be faster and shorter is what a good security program looks like so what they did is they just took what they learned they use our platforms open, so you can actually build those kinds of techniques back in our platform. And then they went and exercise the rest of the environment to validate the new version they saw would actually be adequately defended. They'd actually get detections if that happened again and it was part of their remediation exercise so again that's. It you have to be ready for that. We also have a content delivery team with an organization that focuses on understanding what what these attackers are doing in terms of how they're shifting and connected to the other components of threat intelligence that are out there studying the attacker majors, and we're building that content back into the product continuous Chris, Kennedy. Thank you so much. Much for joining us on the program. It's always great to talk minor attack with that seems to be what we talk about all the time, but it's you know it's really great to to be chatting to someone who spend so much time with it, and can really help inform our understanding of it a great pleasure, my friend. We'll talk to you again soon. Patrick thanks for the time. That was Chris Kennedy Day from I q big thanks to him for that and big thanks to attack cue for being a risky business sponsor. You can check them out at attack like here. Dot Com and you know what in terms of tooling that can actually test your existing controls breaching attacks him. You know it actually makes a lot of sense, so go check him out. On a trial this stuff attack. Dot Com. That is for this week's show I. Do hope you've enjoyed it I'll be back next week with more risky Biz, but until then I patrick right. Thanks for listening.

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Ben Fisher CEO of Magic and Co Talks Voice and Brands - Voicebot Podcast Ep 83

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Ben Fisher CEO of Magic and Co Talks Voice and Brands - Voicebot Podcast Ep 83

"This is episode number eighty three of the voice podcast. Today's guest, Ben Fisher CEO and founder of magic and company. Welcome back for its by listeners. I'm Brechin Sela your host each week for the voice by podcast. Today's guest is Ben Fisher. He's the CEO and founder of magic and company. We talk about brands and enterprises and how they're using voice today. Ben has a great background for this not only has he been running magic and company for the last several years. But before that he was chief technology officer. Doable innovation chief technology officer also way where networks he was a senior software engineer earlier in his career as a graduate of Washington University in Saint Louis has a philosophy degree as well. We have a really interesting conversation about how brands are using voice how they're promoting it how they're thinking about it in terms of their campaigns and go to market we recorded this live on site at the Alexa conference in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I think you're gonna love it before we get started. With Ben I could've very briefly, you missed a lot in voice insider last month. We did see ES updates. In fact, we did a bonus addition of yes, we talked about a couple of ex acquisitions and investments we talked about. A company that looks like it's been shutting down all this space. And we went through some of the big top ticket items around strategy for the big voice platforms and what we're seeing from financing standpoint in the industry. So a lot of things went out and voice insider, I'm going to tell you is it is a special project that we run each week kind of a labor of love like voice by podcast. So if you wanna check that out, go to voice pot that forward slash insider voice. Bought a Ford slash insider now voice about nation. Get ready for Ben Fisher. Okay here at the Alexa conference in Chattanooga. Tennessee, I'm with Ben Fisher. And he's the CEO of magic and company or maybe it's magic and co he can correct afterwards. So that their voice agency previously been served as chief technology officer. Doable innovation way wire networks. He began his career as a software engineer at Comcast. And has a degree in philosophy and economics from Washington University in sT Louis, Ben Fisher. Welcome to the voice about podcast. Thanks Brett great to be her. Okay. Great. So is it magic and co or magic and company we refer to ourselves as magic and co. Okay. But it stands for company it stands for company. Yeah. So that's what it is. It's named after my wife actually, two years ago their name Agic named by her after after that was her nickname magic. And so then we had all these people and magic and co and it just stuck that's hilarious. Well, that's that's that's a good back story that all right? So let's start with you telling the listeners about what magic and co is sure you do what you do. And how you got started. Yes. So we're I mean, we're strategic voice consultancy. We were three phase process that guides brands most we work with companies, but branching out more into energy utilities, and hospitals and the music industry, and we basically guide them onto the voice assistance with the three phase process. One is a design phase where we kind of do a lot of market research and develop marketing collateral and response matrixes, and and other things kind of plan out these potential. Campaigns or the applications that live on the voice assistance. So this is more than just we're going to launch a kill for you. Yeah. I mean, I think it's definitely more complicated with that everybody when you're in minutes. Many industries magic is in verticals Stephanie. Everybody's got a different different take. Some people wanna do 'em VP's kind of test the waters other people wanna do huge strategic voice shopping, then they're expecting results on that. We figure out what they're thinking. And what's best for them and develop a whole strategic plan and offer adjacent services around discovery. Right media buying and other things and then execute with the development. So do you have an agency background before magic? Oh, no, actually. Right. So it sounds like you're doing full service agency work. Yeah. That's what's interesting. We're actually I'm more of a technologist, and we kind of collided with the marketers because that's who basically puts out the budgets, right right for these types of things the marketing teams at these companies, no matter who it is. Right. Whether it's the energy utilities or hospitals. It's mark. Who want to be on this assistance? I think that's a product of Amazon marketing to them in different ways. That's been interesting. The companies mostly seven seven, engineers and designers, and there's about seven other people who are support staffer account management and project management. So it's about fourteen or fifteen total. But we've had to learn how to talk to marketers. I think you're more of a marketing. Background of marketing I've done a lot of marketing hired some people who do Leo who's kind of the two. But he's he's from Drogba five a couple of guys from seventy two and sunny now, the engineer, so we we are hiring more of that. But it's interesting because the way the marketers look at at it is different than the way. I think somebody with a pure technology background or start up background looks at it. But we've tried to figure out is how to blend those worlds, you know, there's the idea of a short-lived campaign markers are always talking about campaigns. Right. And on the other end of the spectrum you hear people talking about building these applications for life. They're do something. It's not really a campaign and putting those together is really what what we've done. Well, I think but it's also been a learning curve over the last year or so. And in fact, I think that Magic's real value marketers is that I think the way markers can reach people now is through product development, right? I. That's that's what we're seeing is the move. That's the shift the shift is going on. Right. Okay. So whether it's voice, though, or even other products, right? Whether it's a are in the future, or you know, other products that create these immersive worlds for people these are long term plays. Right. These loyalty plays. These are ways to connect with customers and the sugar highs of advertising so that world is changing, and is benefiting somebody from my background. So yeah, you bring this up. I understand this concept of advertising and campaigns. And it's interesting because there are some people who are getting into this market who have that approach in their thinking of these Alexa, skills or Google actions is a finite resource has a set starting end date that's going to complement. Let's say advertising campaign or product launch. Right. And then they really have no intent or budget set aside to sustain it. Right. And so have you come across that? What what are you doing? Are. They sustaining it or that is shutting down. Well, I mean, the best example that was. Oh, bonnie. We did a campaign. They said they wanted to campaign. So I said sure this is February two thousand eighteen people were in the space. But you know, it wasn't continually growing. It was still had such body. You know, and it was very successful is the biggest campaign in their history. What it was they were going to run a media. Buy with Alexa, romps on people searching for yogurt and Amazon. And then people say, hey, Alexa, Astro Bonnie for free yogurt, and it would delivery coupon after they gave their information deliver a coupon. They could redeem on Amazon fresh or in the retail store, but that lasted three weeks. Right. And it was a school the last three weeks. That's an information about show body. And then it was distribution mechanism to get in people's homes. Was this Alexa thing. Well, it was bution mechanism to engage with people and get the coupon out there. Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And so, but at that point established a relationship, and then do they continue it or? No, that's interesting is no not in the current way. Budgets are planned in the marketing world, right -actly. Right. And but here's the thing is we came back to. Oh, Bonnie, and we said, you know, hey, you guys did a little skill. Let's make this a real thing permanent thing. And now just like really the end of last year. Everybody's kind of like, yeah. Let's do a long-term budget type. You know, it's very hard. If they don't have a budget preplanned BIC is another one for the razors. Yeah. In two things once an office assistant, right? And this is actually I think this is going to be great. It's not out yet. But the office system really is useful to BIC offices system. It does talk about pens and stuff like that. And some things that BIC supplies, and you can shop for it. But it also stores data. Right. So you can use it for calendar. Management file management or. Oh, yeah. We built it. So you can say, hey, you know, hey, looks asked to pick office an enterprise app, totally. But they that's what I think is the future. You know, it wasn't that expensive. You know, and it will be there forever, and it's Google home. And it'll be on Alexa, and that's a lot of people. So we'll be a lot of people really focused bec- is a brand. Have probably forgotten that they're out there because there's so many other when I was growing up was one of the two or three brands that existed in in that space. But now there's so many, right? I've been having an app there. It'll last forever people use it. That's that's a big deal. You know, have recurring platform with them. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So to continue on then. So you've got some people who are trying to use this as like a campaign in their own model. And now they are starting to think about this is maybe something they need to sustain more like a website, right? Okay. Different budgets, different people. It's different. Yeah. It's I don't know why on this particular technology. That's where it started the apps came out. I don't remember that. And I think it's a product that is Amazon marketed to marketers somehow 'cause I remember everyone was looking for the new thing and it became a trend. Yeah. The only thing I'll say is that there's another talk that I often gave where we talk about the integration of voices systens into popular culture. And it didn't take long for. These things to start showing up on the tonight's show Saturday Night Live too, right? And so I think that was they were like, okay. I I need to catch them lightning in a bottle. I need to stand out. Oh, here's the shiny object in the corner. Right. Let's put that in our campaign. Right. And they do that all the time. Right. That's true. I think I mean, just Amazon Amazon also has an agency division right people who are focused on agencies in the US in India all over the UK they've been very effective actually pushing it makes sense. But again, this is how this is how it was pushed as kind of temporary things. But I think I think that's changing I think real brands are really going to invest in this as a channel for the long term. And why do you think that just off the cuff? It's really people are asking for that. That's what I'm getting in my Email box people who worked with us as MVP's, right? Even everybody literally everybody who did an MVP we call it. An MVP was kind of a low budget thing relatively speaking comes back and says, hey, we wanna make this now for the long-term magic. We talk about. Process in the beginning of the program. And that's how we got hooked his clients as we said, let's do a little VP and you'll test it because nobody really don't really know what you're getting a new to do it. And you know, we provide some safety for people to do that. And from there they can expand out. So we're seeing people who did MVP's with come back and say, we wanna do more strategic channel. Well, it so the channel has reached. No, right. And so I think that becomes more interesting. That's true. Yeah. Year ago, certainly year and a half ago, but even a year ago, you could still justify if you're a marketer and the advertising division, you could already justifies spending the money on it because it's small percentage of your ad budget for all and then just the PR value alone gives amplification right now there's so much stuff out there. The PR angle isn't a strong because it's harder to get surfaced. And the idea here now is that okay? It's a little different maybe not as much PR value is a year ago. But a lot more users a lot more people you could reach out to develop like an ongoing relationship with right, right? That's true. One hundred twenty million. Versus seventy last year was the last count. I mean here the numbers. Yes. Total smart speakers. Yes. Part speakers in the US still. I've got some new numbers. But let's say that they're in the high fifties around sixty sixty million, but there's more users in that because they're multi user devices. Right, right. But then if you go to the other surfaces, you might get up to one hundred one hundred million. Plus, I mean, I think I don't know what's going to happen here. I think brands are asking for channel. I think you're right. They're recognizing that as a more strategic channel. I don't know about smart. I mean, I don't know. If smart speakers are the future, though, it terms of what is the future? I think I think voice, you know, wearables believe it or not or your phone. You kind of talked briefly about the this morning. Yeah. I don't know about the speaker. I think I ditched my phone like, I was telling you, you know, I just had this watch. It has literally don't have your phone with you. I do have it here bag or something. Yes. You just don't bring it out much. Yeah. But I'm walking around. Yeah. I don't bring it up because you have an apple watt, and you. Speak to it mostly you don't tap on it that much to you know, I speak to it. And I just thought I was so liberating because your dog fooding. What do you mean, you run a voice agency? You're going all in on voice. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also freedom. You know, I it was freedom from all from all the, you know, the content of the campaigns that noise, it's actually freedom. So I don't know if the future is content on these devices talking about that earlier, but I don't know the future's content content. Look like, I think it is products products. And I think, you know, whether it is on a spurt speaker, not whatever it's always it's always content in transactions. Right. There's always some combination within the question is what form does that content. Make smart speakers. I don't think those are going. I think they're just getting bigger. Yeah. Four listening to music in the home. Yeah. And then because there there there will be other applications it'll be used in right now what we're seeing is. It's highly diffuse beyond a few core use cases. And then and then the long tail is is is really significant to drops off very quickly. And then you have this long tail and so I think people are trying to figure that out like where they fit in the long tail or do they have an opportunity in one of these other areas, but coming back to that side from smart speakers mytalk today was all about voice outside this March Baker and all the. Surfaces because I think that's really important thing. That's going to happen over the next two years. And they'll watch is really underestimated, I agree. And the what's going I like apples integration. There is really with the tea is a really impressive implementation, I presume will have a five G pretty soon as that's as soon as there's infrastructure that can carry G. But I think that that's actually probably apples more interesting play sort of the person in the things around you, and people definitely underestimate that. And the question is that if you have a watch how are brands or media companies going to serve you differently than they're serving a smart speaker user, they're not thinking about that. They need to be right. You know? I don't know. What that is. But I think that is kind of what we're looking at here. Okay. Grab with a long-term. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about some of the work you've done. Oh, sure. So we wrote up a story about the bread Eldred skill. So he's a country singer. And I've done some stuff, Josh grow. And so talk a little bit about that. How come about what's it like working with musicians compared to like a brand like Shabani, for example? It's you know, it's way more personal, right? And then so magic rights also was writing the scripts for them. Okay. So we're not just making the scale. We're writing the scripts were coming up with the idea. We're getting them in the studio Warner Brothers usually gets him in the studio with our scripts and stuff like that ninety six percent of echo owners are using it for music of some sort. You know, we don't talk about. How music is. I'm also a little bit fascinated with how conservative the industry actually is. Nobody wants to be embarrassed. Right. Even Brett Brett's, great guy and call them the next Frank Sinatra Robens already kind of big right like the Grammys or something like that. And Michael boob lays Michael boob. La. It's just announced this week or something just came out. Didn't it the skill? Yeah. I'm not sure. Yeah. We did a piece of that that came out yesterday. Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. We haven't gotten it up yet. Because we're so far backed up for CS stories, but we were talking about how there's a whole area for new revenue opportunities here. It's not just the stream credits from the devices, but VIP content. I call it the, and it's really behind the scenes really get personal with the artists in a way conversations with the artist. There's ways to do that without having to record. It had the person have canned response or something right? People would move a little faster towards that model charging for virtual goods right in skill payments stuff like that L made sense to me were kind of still working towards that bread. Eldridge was kind of a recurring loyalty type play Grogan was is simple question and answer type skill. But I look forward to the future which I think does have these potential people close to the artists we categorize the responses into. Types like an intimate or is this like somebody wants toward dates, and and it was the most common thing people were doing with the skills, and it's all intimate. They wanna find out more about the artists. They wanna find out personal information about the artist, you know. And I think that's really, you know, the rest of the transactional information really isn't as big of a no not by far majority of people were asking about memories and stuff like that. And we did Blake Shelton actually for two seconds last year. I don't know if you knew that, you know, they're asking when's the font. There was some thing there. And like, you know that people were all asking about the artists. Well, let's just do the story little mix. Yeah. And they had a an album the come out, and yeah, it's same thing. It's all the behind the scenes stuff, and they had an interesting model because they were rolling out new content. Basically twice a week for thirteen weeks. Yeah. Really sophisticated roll out. In fact, I think they're not quite done with it. I think they have a couple of weeks left, and they didn't know what they're going to do after thirteen weeks out. They just going to rehash it. Yeah. They're going to try to get the artifact. This studio stuff. Yeah. No. I think people are experimenting with it. I mean, the fact that on Alexa. You can do the notifications. Now when there's updates right? That's a big thing for little mix. And that'd be big thing for everybody. But I thought it moves a little faster because people talking with us for year with the Nick and everyone knew about the news. And that's that's an industry thing industry. It is an interesting thing where people own their own content. I think it's a little bit different, but artists don't own the content, and there's a lot of hands of that pie and impacts it. Yep. Okay. So we talked a little bit about the musicians Buscher. You've obviously given some thought about this from a media standpoint. So when you look at voice, how you thinking about how that's how media's going to evolve in order to adjust to these voice. I use cases. What do you mean by media? I guess we'll media music information, entertainment, these types of things. I mean, what do I actually think? I mean, I I wanted to know lie to me tell me what you think I think I mean, I really do think this. I don't know why I think. A lean back experience really is questionable and five or six years. I, you know, people really. Yeah. I think interactive content is going to like the next method of net. Flicks prototype that with things like black nearer? Which wasn't. I don't think it was voice enabled. I actually didn't think. So. I don't know. It was like, well, you could choose your own path. Now, we had this idea having interactive news, right? Imagine. If there was a presenter, and you could go and ask it questions. Right. It's sort of the news dictate into you write about a viewpoint or something you could discover it. And you know, this came out of the way, I I read news on Google is I'm reading it. And then, you know, I'm kind of searching other things about the story like the stories take branches, I actually think content may turn interactive. And we'll all be more silent. I don't know. I don't know about the lean back movie experience. I don't know about the I mean, I'm not saying died. I I more and more. I understand what you're saying. I just I lean back is not going away. But I think it would it's fair to say is the majority of media has been lean back. Yeah. Totally. And the lean inexperience which we talk about the interactive is news. So it's it's going to eat up a significant portion of that. Right. But I did a lot of work in streaming media streaming music. Yeah. And if you look at the different models like slacker Pandora Riveria young back experiences. Spotify was Alina curator unless yes like that. And they all have their place. And I think that's that's what we found was that the audience is had different preferences, and then individuals also switch between their needs. So sometimes they just wanted. Okay. Just give me the Spotify playlist. I don't wanna curate anything today. What's new just give it to me? Yeah. And so I think that there's there's going to be a combination of that there's going to be a role for curator's. So I don't know if it's going away. Going away. Right, right. You see these interactive stories that people are doing. I do think voice. I content world is one where your computer has a use your computer for voice use other devices the devices voice enabled right? The arm is not interactive right now, even the content stuff is like the devices weren't really there like your phone, even you know what? I mean like like, but you could totally have Twitter was interactive. Like what like what is that? Really? Is it not interactive? What is Twitter voice? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's we chat. That's right. Yeah. Or I message has voice messages and things like that. It's not, but it's, you know, Eysenck versus I mean, that's that's very different very different implementation. I think if I want to build on this concept of interactivity this inexperience because I go back to brands where we started. Yeah. They're used to presenting information in the lean back experience. Right. Yeah. Very few of them have done anything meaningful interactive. Right. But maybe voice will be the thing that will force them into it. That's what I've been trying to say is content. Shop and agencies are making content and supposedly back experience. Here's beautiful video Gillette. And it shows something beautiful. They don't want humans domes- up that beautiful experience. Right. And so that's really what is trying to get back. Thank you for putting us in the right direction. But like that you're trying to say that type of content. I don't know if those short films, I think it's going to be impacted by this. Oh, interesting. I could see that. I could definitely see that. Okay. So you've also done some work. Well, I don't hesitate to call the. The enterprise side. But you've done work in the or utility space. Sure. So now, this is really broad. So you're an agency you're working with show body, you're working with musicians, there's significant differences between those, but you're working with like a utility company. Yeah. So Chris contrast for me like tell the listeners how different that is in terms of their approach and what their expectations are sure. I mean, you know, I we hire people who are interact with our clients. We say like do you like traveling because I've you this traveling you're going to all these different people like you said, very different hospitals, energy utilities, BIC CPG type stuff, and it's really it is really different different cultures and stuff. It's interesting. I mean, the energy side has really defined purpose. I mean, the connected home right with right in terms of with energy. That's a whole thing. That's going to happen. Right. I mean tapping obviously with like Samsung, smart, and all this all these gear, but it's a little disaggregated. I call it or you know, it's not universally. Yeah. There's there's a lot of stuff out there. There's not a lot of. And the home, right? I think that's going to change and become more of a is going to be way more communication between your utility and your home energy usage. Whether it's suggestions from the utility. I think there's going to be a conversation. Do people want that conversation? Well, the utilities. I mean, I mean, I'll tell you what some people there are these energy efficiency awards programs right there. Kind of weird Email kind of looks like looks bad. If you insulate you got some money from the government or something or if you save enter the nudge stuff, it's like all this stuff. And nobody listens through tillage. They're not really good marketers. Like what if through Alexa? You had. It was game five, you know, and you somehow they got into their funnel, and you're on Alexa, and talking to you. And they're saying here's this specific point in your home, put this installation, and you will save X. And we'll give you ten dollars in the check in information. So it's a little bit more friction list. Right. I mean, and that's kind of stuff we are building where there are some utility companies that know, a lot about your home and your energy usage and things about square footage. And where the leaks are. Approximately and they could make really precise suggestions and measure that success and have a feedback loop. You know, so that I mean that's a whole different game in marketing. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Because it's like an operational capability then. Yes, totally product a product like acting with a product as opposed to swimming media. Yeah. I mean, just from a, you know, talk to the team. But like it's way more straightforward, right? Like, here's the number. Here's the data. We have. But you know, what we're trying to do is very precise. Right. Like brands have a lot of different missions. Consumer brands may have brand marketing goals, they may want to voice shop, and it's all you know, how most people to shop. Right. You know? Maybe some guy wants his boss. Look good. Look good for his. It's just a lot of different things that they could be doing. I don't know. So I kind liked the utility stuff in the hospitals. It's pretty defined. What do you do in hospitals while we just launched HSS hostile for special surgery? It's on Google home. And it's on Alexa. You can request an appointment. You can request the doctor on Amazon Google doesn't allow request for points, which I didn't know. Yeah. Function scheduling. Yeah. They will. I hope so. Yeah, they're going to. Yeah. We were surprised, but Alexa. You can find out medical. You know? Hey, I think I tore my L in that sounds like hip ADA. I don't know. I mean, the hip thing is what's really preventing that from -solutely moving to the next level. But it's interesting 'cause HSS also has like a symptom checker already on their hospital front page, and all we had to do in some cases was put on Alexa, right? That's right API into their existing totally existing database. Yeah. But you can do other things know find the nearest doctorate right for me. Like, you know, what the visiting hours like, you know, a bunch of bunch of. That's great. I mean, so I put that in the category of sort of the utility, right? Oh, totally if I'm going to interact with them. Now, they have a different challenge. Right. Because most of their patients are not interacting with them every day. So. First of all they have to discover that HSS has a skill and then a year later when they needed again, they have to remember, right? So the whole goal of the first phase of HSS was to create marketing funnel to push people to just find HSS. So if they're looking about, something and hospitals in New York orthopedic have it be HSS. So we use like nameless invocation stuff. Yes. Which is you know, somebody's working for you it works. Sometimes sometimes, you know, sometimes it doesn't it's hit or miss the we tested, right? Because there's no dashboard to sort of see it's completely hit or miss. We have gotten some positives. They've said do you wanna talk to HSS and someone says yes when somebody asks like, hey, what's the best hospital for spinal stenosis, something actually that was pretty specific ended up getting it. I really wanna see them build that out. I don't know why I don't know about the challenges are facing or monetize it even like a traditional media buying typo. They're going to sell those spots. I my prediction for sure it's it's going to happen. They said they weren't last year. I understand. But it'll happen. It's got it. Right. Well, that's all. Anybody wants eventually? And then the ideas like, oh, no is this terrible for the user. It's not necessarily terrible for the the advertisers actually something that you would want right versus like something else. So so I think that will eventually happen. But it'll be a while because they have to get it to work. Right. And they still have a lot of catching up to do just with Google in that space because we have the implicit discovery dashboard and Google actions. Right. So we can see yes. Which intense are working, and which aren't and which discovery phrases are working, right? And that's by design. I think because the invocations kind of built in right? Like, you know, that's yeah. Exactly, exactly. Well in their search company, and they're searching MPI daddy. And so they had all these different things to pull together while Emma's focused on different things. Amazon has as you said they have a broader feature set today. Right. But they don't have a few these reporting things, which there's no engineer Google, which will wants to put something out. Not have a way to report on this culture. Right. Trix everywhere. So it makes a lot of sense. So you're technologist we've talked nothing about the technology since the beginning of our conversation. So you you started as a developer tell me one or two things you think that happened over the last year from a technical standpoint on either Alexa, or Google that. You thought was really a significant move forward on the voice assistance, the recognition like you pointed out actually has gotten better. It's not just the words. But it's also what they're trying to do something the way these voice framework, you know, the things like my Kroft or sound hound stuff. Like, I mean, these guys are constantly learning. Right, right. There's a lot of neural nets going on trying to proving that's made things a lot better. I think you know. I don't be interesting. If you did a study about like the adoption rate to that like if there's a correlation between what if the as wrecking, speak gets better, the speech recognition, the ten recognition. That's better usage rate in the home goes up or or the number of devices sells more something like that. I, you know, I don't know. It'd be difficult. I mean, there's there might be a way there's there's usually. Way to do things certainly the small scale, you could do it. Yeah. I mean that definitely has helped our business. That fact, I haven't heard anybody could play like they used to be like Alexa, does listen to me people complain about that early in actually vocalized at a is really focused on that space Pacific. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So they do some really interesting things. Joe Murphy over there. Cool recommend people. Check his stuff out. But yeah, he's trying to do the stuff with accents. And yeah, he's doing the things like speech and noise can can recognize you from across real. And then just how good are they at recognizing standard set of audiology tests and things like that. And so those things he is seeing some advances. Although his first report came out and said, some of the voice assistance indicated hearing loss. Yeah. Really? Well, it's because if you take like a clinical view from an audio standpoint, it's oh, it's really understanding people and it's consistent with hearing laws. It's not really hearing laws. It's like a misinterpretation issue. Yeah. So so that's really into. Okay. So a voice assistant standpoint. What are you most looking forward to over the next two years as as user, what are you most wanted to be able to you've already got the watch totally liberating your life with foist? Right. What else? Are you looking forward to a user? Yes, I'm looking for. I mean, generally speaking about the next two years, I'm looking forward to when I when it really isn't omni-present platform. Now, you have the speaker there you still have to be like any put dots all over the house. You know, you can have it could have in your. I'm looking forward to where I really don't have to have anything, maybe a wearable or something and could just talk, you know, for simply in there. Whether it's through aware of by prefer not to have to get close to Alexa or shout in. Yeah. Right. I'd prefer to say, hey, you know, they're also looking forward to the day the internet becomes voice enabled websites with point and click. It's gonna see. So it's going to seem so arcane, very so. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to it. I hope you are. I think so I think you a computer voice. I mean, you know, this is like pointing and clicking on our phones. Horrible. I can't oh. Oh, it is terrible. Yeah. I mean, touch and swipe are actually great the insert circumstances. But there's a lot of stuff the pensions zoom. Yeah. And then like the tap those little little buttons or lay could be tough. So I get that. Okay. So I appreciate you spend some time with me, this has been great. I love this conversation. Tell the voice about listeners how they can keep track of you follow magic and Co's exploits. Oh, man on the co system. So we post a lot of our work on our Twitter Twitter dot com slash magic and company spelled out magic and company all spelled out. Okay. No problem. Feel free to follow us. We're also hiring pretty much every division voice designers, developers account managers sales. I mean, we're we need people who know about the space and so feel free to reach out to us. And you know, about all the cool things you can do it magic. All right. Great. Thank you very much. I'm Brechin Sela. You've been listening to the voice about podcast. Thank you for listening. All the way to the end. We are in Chattanooga. Tennessee at the Alexa summit this week. We'll have several of these episodes coming live interviews. Follow on the Twitter at voice and at Brechin Sela till next week's next amazing guest near the voice about with you. With you.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 145: Featuring Ray Bourque, Teddy Purcell & Ryan Malone

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 145: Featuring Ray Bourque, Teddy Purcell & Ryan Malone

"John. Everybody. Welcome to episode one hundred and forty five of spitting chiklis present the by new too damn vodka still out here in California one winding up all star weekend. Let's see who's still alive biz. How you feel and brother the west coast wagon tour boys, I feel like we've been on the road of month and a half. Yeah. That's a wet dog. We and also teddy pursell and Bugsy Malone. Joining us dressed to the nine today. I said Utah what you said, right? When he went on. Like bugsy? What are you doing? What are you wearing heaters prancing down in the lobby and he goes, it's added a. So easy Stewart on any no socks and yellow. I don't know what kind of shoes. Those are Louis Vitton. Expensive. Yeah. They do look expensive Toda's the suit bucks. Well, either way what a week business. Right. I mean, this is like the month long trip. I need to go home. I need to get healthy again. But we've had a time. We've had a time it's been like chick. Let's just coming on the scene. Thankfully to these two guys. I mean Teddy's getting us mcdavid you guys help with stamkos we had dried Seidel with mcdavid. So it's been a week of interviews that not many other people seem to get. It's just different when we see these guys. So thanks to these two. It's it's been a joy let's start from the beginning. We got to to LA on show. Whilst record Jesus with petty and Bugsy. So now, of course, we got a wrap the whole experience does narrow a winning streak checks in the mail checks fell. We got there. Sunday patriots game. We forgot to mention the last podcast big. Thank you to. Kevin Conley who has a bar in West Hollywood call goal goal, and they hosted us, and he apparently he was a little upset. We didn't give him the shadow and while he was upset during our celebration there that I caught on my Instagram live, some irresponsible member of our group broke. Whoa. Gaz all teen. Was right on the bus whoever the team teams, so fourteen hundred dollar flat screen, by the way. I didn't know they were still fourteen hundred dollars. That TV for two hundred goal goal. Had nice TV's. I just didn't know TV's cost that much. I bought one for ten grand wants a year later was three hundred. That was the first thing you bought your signing for my dad voted for my dad, my brother, call and still tells the stories like I think I gave them like a book he ended up already reading, and you showed up with your your frames? I jersey from NHL game and a ten thousand dollar TV fucking middle son Jesus Christ. But yeah, it ended up losing value quick. So we haven't Conley money either way we're going to we're going to send him in check. So yeah, we should have shouted them before it was just two days after that patriot. Twin cons was pretty nice about it to video evidence from security foot is of left us in a bad spot. So as far as breaking the telephone. Yeah. So the video does so Bugsy keesa referencing the team aspect of of him breaking television because he was spraying his beer bottle in the TV got wet. And then it was broken. We're going to replace it. Now, I'm a principal guy. I wasn't shaken the beer, but all of a sudden, you're the one who shakes beer breaks TV as team sports like wall Faulk, I mean. You'd be that thrilled. If I fucked up business like I'm not paying the fine of the guy who gets to spend it for crosscheck it someone in the face. That's kind of what you said. But we were like we're all going to Chuck in a little money. We are going to Chuck cannon. I'm just saying I levels were high. Okay. I am first of all if you look at the film. There was no bottle. You know? Pitchers. You're correct pitchers who's gonna pay for that though. Those barstool because we have so much good content for them Dave porno. He's going to be very thankful of all the work. We donors trespass. Now, let's move it onto Monday, and we banked Scottie Upshall Comrie. I think I don't even remember if we got an individual interview with teddy did get one with Bugsy, but then the most important part of that day RA showed up, and I mean, I don't even know if our remembers he showed up on Monday because he went to the dispensary, and he must eight fucking what ten ten pounds. You know, I got I was still existed from flight, you know. Okay. Three hours. I mean. Everyone's right. When I walk in bugs, he's like hi how you doing Bugsy? Hey, hands me a Budweiser. So I was often running how about how about who. Teddy was in asking teddy to get him a beer. No, he no he. Hey, how you doing? Hey, nice to meet you. But we didn't really see each other's names. And then said, hey teddy motion. Motion barrels. Shoeshine too. So then the helmet on. That's how I recognize that you guys case. So so do you remember falling asleep at debtor? Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't. I was fucking beat. I was exhausted. I had probably three or four edibles as I was dying. You know, I didn't have a pre roll. So I ate a few edibles before dinner. And yeah, the the edibles the tightness all caught up to me. I took a quick little cat nap. How about how about eating office manager Brett's wholemeal Brett when we talk about this. No Brett went to the bathroom, and he comes back and RAM. Food. Brad was everything prior to that was family style. Correct. We all know appetizers, we slept through the time. When we ordered our meal. Vouch for Ripon. I was eating eating the sushi for everybody. Either way I'm gonna our on the radio with on raising my hand. I know we're on the radio we're on the radio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sleep. Brett goes the bathroom comes to. And just grabs. The ball starts. Like it's been sitting there for a while. And it was and it was wrong and those with a spoon. Chopstick chopsticks. Brett Brett level to just took one bite. That was so good. I'm starving. I just gotta piss. He comes back. It's gone. It's an RA stomach. Just like sorry, buddy. Thought it'd been there sitting there while well, that's because you were asleep for twenty minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Actually either way. Let's talk about how when we had them come to the restaurant. He could find the front door. So he was walking around on Friday at a call me three times again. I call them. And I might do. I'm staring, right. You just come inside the fucking entrance. Finally, you slept. Walk your way in and slept. You ordering the meal and eight Brett by the way Brett is getting porch. This kid, Brad. He's been great for us this week. He we everything's been on the ball. You know, maybe a couple of things. But that's right. Who does? Does. Her who doesn't make mistakes, but he's been great. But poor kid at home is just just kidding abused by Dave Portnoy. So he's in one for when he gets home. You know, we get to go home and sleep like he's just right back into the fire. Let's talk about the Bugsy story that we've referenced a few time we talked about it briefly got depressed, quite a ways. As we talked about it in the stammer interviewee never ended up telling it, if you don't tell it Bugsy wits going to when you got called in by Zo after your fun night, and Long Island, even Laker this going, you just go toaster change it. No. No. In fact, do you do it argued on it for your? You're you're playing online with Mario. But you have a great rookie year. But he was like obviously owner player. However your. Why you call them to nickname? I was best probably nickname. I've ever heard his ace the best, but you have to be special to have, you know, one can just be as, you know, make sense Mario's as pretty good. So I'm just I'm a rookie. So I'm just, you know, falling the the leadership group, and you know, better what you told me, you didn't know. No, we don't know in China made the Pittsburgh paying my good. Mike, I'm somewhere never thought it ever make it. So I'm really soaking it all in, you know, I mean who never think you'd ever be in those use. So you're taking it in. You know, my dad said he kind of your first year, you wanna keep your mouth shut and your ears and is open. Right. Yep. Okay. That saying. Really described you. Well, so you go out for a few team dinners and night. The wind gets going a little bit and in Long Island there used to be a restaurant slash bar next hotel city, and or something it wasn't a shocker witness the name. But so had a few drinks. I don't even think Mario was playing. We had a few drinks end up. Coming back probably a little later than curfew. So anyway, play the game and up go in the OT winner, not a big deal. But. Next. We back from there. We get back from the road trip. Ed's. Oh, you know pulled me in the office. And he's like, you know, how's it going? Pretty good life skill that one. That one coach like we're in. Life's good. I know you're hanging out with some of the, you know, buck burgers older guys on the team, Mike. Hey, listen. I'm a big boy and think for myself make my choices they have nothing to do with, you know with. Whatever's going is is I don't think we won't send you down on my shit. No, no. He goes win type. She at home. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Time to get home. And I'm like thinking man, you must've saw curfews like I think ten o'clock or something on game nights. So I was like I came home like around twelve Mike. Twelve o'clock on game night. I'm like. I'm sorry. I just tell the truth. I didn't know curfew thing was real or something. I was just gonna tell them the truth and. You know, telling the truth what else they do? But anyway, I was like fucking busted probably going to send me down. So I go rate ace ace fuck as semi down. Like, you ain't going anywhere kid. Didn't you say just kind of like this, and you ain't going anywhere? I told the story owner of the team. Thinking about in training camp. I I was a bag skate anytime market was on the ice. We knew never get back. Scared. Just be like practice. I got I got a golf tee time to catch up to here. God, that's a fucking unbelievable story. And he and he did it Justice. He didn't even anything out other than the fact that instead of twelve the answer was four eight four AM fault. Depend what coast? If you're still shoot your. Another funny one that I heard was the teddy pursell always down your phone. You're pretty good with that. Well, yeah. I mean, I hear funny stories that I think our fans deserve in. I find that. When we're drinking more alcohol, they tend to come out more. So I was usually memo Pat him teddy the Halloween story of inept Menton when you your cost was. I mean, I thought it was genius. You told the story yesterday. Can you refresh our memory? Yeah. It was actually gonna give credit. It was Macarena gave me the idea. And I wanted to stay in character. So I was in Emerton thinkers, I think it was my second year there, actually, and we rented out this this bar. We rented out the top floor though. So I was a bathroom attendant. So my my parents were up there with me, my mom, we went out to the dollar so relic thirty face cloth. She like folded him nice some cigarettes those. They were nice and smoke in the remaining character. Bugsy come on. Yeah. So we got jolly ranchers gum hair gel, cigarettes mirror act, spray, x-ray, shower and can clone deodorant toothpicks and everything ecommerce there's Robert head of three. I had three piece suit on. And I so I show up this to the party like before everyone, obviously. So I was there like an hour before just in case someone came early. So then I was getting text and everyone's like where the hell's teddy. So I've stayed in the bathroom they my candle it the bartenders bring me and bears, and I stayed in there the whole time in the guys like, hey, the joke over now like get out of here. I just work here, man. I'm just I'm just here to collect the my paycheck. But then the funny part was disguise was on a date downstairs, but he went upstairs to take a dump and he walked in. And he obviously has been there before and it was the Oilers thinking new we're having a party, and he must record the only guy Edmonton the knew who I was. And so he starts taking his shit, and it's like a small it's like one stall. And if you urinals, and he's the first one hit, and I'll try not to giggle easing this little awkwardly. You get outta here. I like light a match magnum, and you got to your food. And then he wants to be alone to get outta here. Sorry, man. I'm just working here. Anyways. By the end of the night, like all the guys and all the wives were coming in late taking pictures, and we were just having a party in the bathroom. I mean, I think that's pretty nice, and you're obviously, a method actor the fact that you remain in character. The whole night says a lot and the fact that everyone came in the bathroom to parties as a lot of why we have him on this fucking west coast wagon tour, I told the Catalin party cost to one this before. No. And if you have teller again, Steve funny funny bastard, so we're we're in an we're on the docks. And he I don't know exactly the character. I'm pretty sure it was the guy in dodgeball drives around the motorized scooter like the old guy, the coach, you know. I think he was him either way his cost him. He it was in a motorized scooter, and he had to be in it. So all night where it's shark. He's in new mortgage, and he's just driving around. And nobody knows who he is. So people like all the skies wheelchair. So I started sorry not. Thank you. Thank you. Like just be ridiculous. Right. So all night. He's just it's a pain in the ass. You know, like people were like it was packed and he's just bumping into into ankles. So I remember sitting up when are you going to get out of this? I asked him he's in twenty minutes just watch when I get up because I'm like, what do you mean? So he bumps into people bumps into people. He's finding like really causing a ruckus. And I'm sitting there watching all of a sudden he just stands up. He's like thank you guys. There was forty people there like fuck you because all night. So knowing that what he stood up. I was looking at one guys is use back guy. And he was so pissed off before he'd sit up I could tell and teddy teddy emigrant up and the guys just like. See you later, boys. You could see the smoke coming out of the whole there's probably gonna be some people offended by that one. But considering it probably happened eight years ago means like back, then it was still maybe kind of. I mean, if you took it as a joke nowadays, you're you're I wanna ask a question before we get back to some stories that I wrote down my notes, what was the most memorable part of the weekend for you are week. I should say who were your some of your favorite interviews. You don't have to name everyone. Like you did the Seattle team. Just name a few who really stuck out to you. I it's probably the obvious hands. But haven't mcdavid combined me, I think it's great that these guys we're hearing this AVI and apocalypse in the middle of downtown San since San Jose and these guys take time out of their schedule. Busy schedule to come by. And and visit us I think that's a testament so where we are in the hockey media community right now. And also, let fact that they they're like chummy us. They list lay. Listen like luxury, you could tell you listen to the show, man. And that's flattering. That's to me. I guess having those guys be listening to this show is probably been the highlight for me. So I thought it was cool to like you said with mcdavid he comes on and right away. He's giving it to teddy stammer comes on before you even get into any of these. I just calls. Oh, biz for calling mental midget like guys guys here. Even I mean, even guys don't listen, I think if if we're chirping them a little bit. They'll they'll end up here off chirp Neil entered the other day, not like in a harsh way to say, hey, he's gonna fuck, you know, start score. And I thought it was pretty high said, you would outscore them that's harsh. Well, and then and then I said, we're we're here comes chick. Let's Bob then that. Washington three apple so he doubled his scoring with from three points. So I'll send you my address knee ladder. Maybe a little check in the mail out for as you probably gonna hit another bonus. This season are a some of your funny moments of the week. They probably mostly at my expense. I would say. Really remember? Yeah. Also, I think it's a couple of guys chick. Let's bump. I mean, pasta one his competition. Hang on his competition caught on his competition. Thought Leon two Leon to this Bengo father of the big bump right there. But funny parts of the week. I don't I just like just like that probably the the bus ride. I think come rotary of. It was almost like we're on a road trip in some regards was a much hung a bus ride than it probably needed to be. So I heard, but it was gorgeous the first half it when we're on the PCH, you know, looking over the cliffs and see, and that's that's Rhode I've wanted to drive a year. So it was cool drive on that as far as funny, man. Like, I said, you you guys probably answer that because I've been inadvertently provide most of the last. I mean, I thought it was pretty funny that I completely proved biz wrong this weekend biz called news, Grenell slander on the two personas ago saying that I need to get laid. And I never get laid. I never get any tail got the most tail out of anyone here. Comment. I mean, how do you get Mike? On anyone here. Like, that's you. And MS I married. Yeah. All right. How about you? I'm not in the competition, bro. We got a couple of other guys here behind the scenes. I did. Okay. That's all say. Yeah. It was it was an okay trip. I didn't have to pay for meal haven't done any large because I've got some new clothes. So that was doing okay for you. Fuck off you say new clothes. You have the same jumps part of part of the jokes this week, obviously, bug Zebian, handsome, and his charisma, and he finally actually got a skater off it put a even better, although ankles, I forgot about those things, and he's you know, Bugsy being gorgeous years, obviously that attracts a lot of attention from girls probably especially during his playing career. Now, we're told me a funny story about I m s g a number out there. This is funny. You didn't do anything wrong, actually. And it's like I'm right in front of them. Ryan Ryan, and I look up and I mean, yes, complete smoke like Chuck's a piece of paper, and it wasn't. I was not the Ryan was riding alone was like, thanks open to your phone number. Must look good tonight. It wasn't wasn't shriveling. You eat that. It was for. Yeah. Wait. Did you didn't behind you? That was funny of God. And then we got the San Jose. Of course, you mentioned all the interviews. We banked Faulk boys. That's that was a massive week for spitting. Check. Is there anyone we didn't get that? You guys wanted to get. Yeah. Crosby. Yeah. But he got sick. And like Bugsy just like, you know, he was sick too. And so we really couldn't get it together. But I think having all those other guys on sit at one point now now now let me ask you guys. How would you rate teddy in bugs these performances one to ten each of them ten may ten bucks a nine because he didn't come out one night switch if one of us thought we were team. I thought we were one of us like, yeah. We didn't go out. All my God. Yeah. Wouldn't hear the end of it? I'm older than all these stories. So I'm you like break. Dad, really tro tro tro I've seen. The engine still revs also biz we wanna thank them vodka hook up while we well, we got a sweet for the game in in the skills competition. They hooked up the Friday night, the food booze everything all of all the staff about a bunch of them. They've been very happy with marriage that we've how them so far. So keep drinking the pin pink Whitney's. We had them on board last night. They are delicious. Cocktail by speaking of last night, the skills really cool. And I think the the moment we all watching the closest was KENDALL coined the girl from the United States team gold medallist. Correct ellie. Correct medalist comes out of the gates BAAs ING, fourteen and a half seconds right around then and we turned to teddy we had a video of where that one, but that was sick. Yeah. Apparently like, pavonis key was maybe gonna go and he liked deferred after that. Because he didn't want to be embarrassed. Boy, Keller loss to her right? Yeah. Yeah. In she was flying flying. It was it was it was quite shocking. I don't think I would be able to move that fast in my prime. I no hockey any four of us. I'm gonna put my mic down. But still a cool moment. Right. What very cool they implemented all the wall a couple of Olympia from Canada and the United States, actually, I think one of which one of the competitions and Beatrice the passing one the passing impressive. And and apparently like there's a bit of outrage online 'cause they want her to get the money because there's a is money. That's a she actually had the best time. She tries second. But he was like the first NHL or so he won. So she needs to get paid on which I'm sure they're gonna figure that out change for and. And on a decker the Johnson brianna decades. She was going around like she's sitting in a rocking chair. She unbelie I was when she did those turns. I was like what Ray Bork? Oh, they're making tighter. So these girls are just it's pretty cool to see. I mean, I remember I said when I was in high school. I think we scrimmage the ninety eight women's Olympic team. And they you know, they weren't great. And now, it's just like their levels of improvement are outstanding. We should mention the the accuracy contest won by David pasta. And he was the first to go. He whipped right through it. Brought to mind the another former Bruin Ray book who won his any moons ago. Four shots took him. And he's going to be joined the show a little later we interviewed him a couple of weeks back and we're going to be bringing him rape book. Actually, you know what I think we should go right down right now. Let's what rape book done. This interviews. Brought to you by Roman studies show that fifty two percent of guys will experience reptile this function or ED a lot of guys think it's just the way they're built. But actually, it can be the first sign of something a lot more. 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Thanks for coming on with us. So doing these days Ray, it seems like you're basically a fulltime grandfather slash restaurant tour. How's the restaurant business tria? Restaurants are doing pretty well. Tresco on the north end pretty special occasion, Ray place. It's never been to Boston north end depre- special place. It's like little Italy. It's one square miles of eighty Tien restaurants so competition for fair, but got three new partners or last three years. And one of the guys are rich, and Sarah that is doing incredible job than really we have a nice team that we have our members cruncher guy. Bill colitis then Peter Webber that worked at the garden premium club. He does her social media and marketing, and then I just float around try to promote the restaurant and show up before Roy's game than enjoy the fine food and enjoy the the nice crowd that we get so things of pretty well over special or last year. So we're trending and tracking great direction. And then you. You said full fulltime grandfather. Yeah. I mean, other than that, you know, we have grandchildren. I have our fundation that we started little were two years ago or work family fundation that everybody's very excetera about we have we're trying to create three really major events to to raise money to donate. A lot of different cherries truck New England. And we had our first road race last year. We had over three hundred runners raise a lot of money with you know, great sponsorship and this year, we're looking our second annual road race beheld. Beheld june. Fifteen we ever I annual gala at the Boston Harbor hotel while later this month that has got to be more of a formal event. My wife says okay, we've got the road race. We have the golf tournament that we've had for quite a while. Now, can I have something that could kind of create and have some fun and just kinda show up and dress up and dance and listen to music and Lenny Clark Senate be doing his thing that night, and we have Catherine tap and hosting for us that night that with the NBC sports at doesn't incredible job. So they we got fundation, and then I'm involved with Brookshire Bank than spoken with then with them for five years now, and it's been a great relationship do different things with them play a lot of golf, and that's pretty much it. You know, follow the boys got two, boys planning. American League, Chris and Ryan that are Bridgeport play with the islanders farm team. So we kinda follow them. And so let's pretty much my life in nutshell while that that doesn't sound like too bad of a life. I'm sure you're enjoying. I'm curious though, you know, someone with your resume and all time hockey legend. How did you decide or basically not decide to be involved in hockey at the end like whether it be management, whether it be, you know, a team presidency O G M did that ever really cross your mind? And you kind of always figure when I'm done playing. I'm pretty much done with the game. Well, it was lucky enough to stick around long enough, and that kind of money to be independent not really knowing if I was going to get back in with the game. But I knew initially I didn't want to jump right back in after playing twenty two years and traveling and and really being scheduled for all that time. And you know, I mean, you're involved in your kids lives to certain extent. But, you know, your life's pretty much dictated by you know, what you're doing for work in terms of travels scheduling, even if you're at home, you know, game days, forget it, you know, nobody's bothering you over talking to. And so I wanted to enjoy the kids, you know, Chris Christie going to cushion academy that year Ryan was going to be playing with top gun. And my daughter was a senior governor Dummer, I really enjoyed, you know, going to their games being involved with cushion in terms of helping out there. I'd go down there. Few times a week for practice and that be behind the bench for all games, helping out with the D. And then I was coaching Ryan's team with top gun with Steve Kasper both or sons were playing on the same team. So that was a lot of fun. And you know, and that was probably. I'd say about eight or nine years worth doing that kind of stuff with the boys and the kids, and and and it seems like the the further the more time they're out of the game. It's tougher get back in and I consulted one year with the Bruins for home games home practices with Mike Sullivan last year. He was coaching the Bruins, and I had played with Mike like, Michael and really respected him. And and so I did that that one year. But you gotta be all in it. Got gotta be willing to do it twenty four seven. And so that was that was okay. But you know, and I wasn't ready to do it twenty four seven. So never really got back could a Bill could've obviously done something. But never really wanted to jump in full-time. So here I on Ray, I'm going back the restaurant assuming it's also a talion restaurant. You said there's eighty different Italian rescue. Around it now is a question for followers. What are you doing a separate yourselves from the rest of the restaurants? Are you giving away free breadsticks all of all garden beds? Do you walk around? What's going on? Right. I go around. I go around shaking hands. You know? I I try to get there much. I can't before gross games that we kinda promote when what I'm going to be there. So that's different people know in the -ffiliated with the restaurant, I've been involved with that restaurant for fourteen years, I've been an owner, and you know, with with three different groups, and I've gotta say that this group really organized and things are going really, well, but you know, no, we've given out, you know, nuts at the bar or different flavored olives. All right, okay. Now. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a nicest sort Meg of different drinks are bartender. And our our manager does a great drink in terms of coming up with something different at different times. There's always this special drink on the menu. And but no, it's just I think consistency. You know, what we try to creators? I know what I out how I wanna be served experienced that. I want to have when I go out to dinner and terms of consistency in food service, and and just the atmosphere, and we want you to leave kind of feeling all that. And if we do that, then we know you're gonna come back. So. Promo code for twenty percent off their first Neil. Sounds good. Go for it. You might have a line out the door Raewyn jump in. It's very long playing career. You broke into lead with the Bruins. It was during the ass in the fabled lunch peel a AC version of Bruins. They got a couple of stealing cups could never get over the hump. Now, you are French-Canadian kid English was his second language, you walk into this locker room with all these legendary guys Terry O'Reilly, retell wing, Cashman, how intimidate and was a few to walk in and have all these grizzled veterans in and you with like really no plan experience yet. Well. I mean, you know, you know, where going you're going. I mean that was you know, it was much fan in the year before I got there nineteen seventy nine the Bruins look like they're going to beat much in the seventh game, and I'll son there's too many men on the ice. I remember that night 'cause I was playing junior hockey and on that was about five six minutes from the form. And the memorial Cup was going on at at that time where Brandon we kings were playing Peterborough pizza finals. And that's where had played junior wasn't like it is now where the host team would be automatically in the the finals the memorial Cup. So we we had not one or league. So I was just a fan going to the game. And after that game I hadn't I was taking the bus home. Then I you know, I didn't have my license tillers eighteen almost just before. I got the Boston. So taking a bus home. I had to connect rate on water. That's right on. Brenner part of the form. I remember that night gone by the form and the Canadians had come back evil on bear had scored in overtime. And I'm just like I remember bone by putting my fist, and yes frigging beat the Bruins again. And then, you know, August fourth is the was the draft that year because of the Birger of the WHM the NHL, and I find myself going to the Boston they could've been a better place. I knew where I was going in terms of the history, and what they had is attained and I walked into a room that just accepted me and made me feel very very comfortable right off the bat. I had met Wayne Cashman before camp brand criminal and I were both first round picks and nineteen seventy nine and it was like August fourth like, I mentioned the draft. So then have much time to sign so right after that. Draft. They bring Brad I could Boston. And we we go and we make the press this in the morning, and then, you know, we're sitting in Harry's office, and it's probably about eleven eleven thirty and Wayne Cashman walks into Harry's office, and so we we make cash, and and then we're supposed to fly out three o'clock that afternoon, and so cash tills Harry says, hey, I'm gonna bring these guys to lunch right across the street fours. And so we go to watch with cash, and I mean, there's better story countered and cash, and you know, we're just forget our mouths open. Listen, stalled you stories and have a few drinks and having lunch. And then next thing, you know, we got a call at fours, and it's Joan Carlton they had scour the Bruins saying that, you know, cash these guys to the airport, they're they're flying. They got fly out and cash tells John's is going anywhere today. We've got a softball game tonight. And there's sticking around and you're gonna play with us. So we we kept drinking what to play softball with meta whole bunch of the other Bruins that night. And that went hold the next day and that we showed up for camp. And kinda on had you know, we had met pretty much have to change, but you walk into a dress with full veterans like you said, Cashman, Cheever's retell Riley, you know, build Aretha on Marcotte, Gary Doak, there's probably three or four guys that had one cups or seventy feB too. So you walk in and you just just do your thing. And they just kinda got you along. And and a guy like Brad park for me really took me took me under he patters wing and really worked with me on and off the icy love talking hockey and our house like a sponge and took it all in. So there's better atmosphere to walk into terms of if you wanna learn. How to be a pro and how to do it, and I didn't really say much pretty McNabb. I think still tells the story to this day that I didn't speak any English when I got to Boston. I spoke. I spoke perfect English. It's just that I didn't speak. I just listened and watched and and did my job. Well, I'm wondering that you, you know, I look at look at your draft, and by the way, incredible job by the Bruins, you and Brad MacKinnon played over twenty eight hundred games to mind, you they got your both in the first round, but you had this dominant junior career your picked eighth overall. There were three defensemen taken in front of you like what was causing you to actually drop behind three other demand that that it doesn't make sense to look at now. I mean, I don't know. You know, the draft is a crap shoot you could go through many drafts. And and you kinda you could say that you know, any any sport every draft. There's always a player that, you know, peasant incredible career, but you know, you're talking first round. So anything could happen with the first rounder, even if you pick I over all twenty three zero commend up in the hall of fame. If you're if you're drafting a first round expectations for you to be pretty good. How good that remains to be seen? But you know, I was a second underage guy drafted just before me. You know, keep Brown was the first to rage guy to go. That was the year that the rates draft came back to the NHL. So I was pretty lucky that I don't have to play that fourth year junior hockey, and I was ready to go on to the next level. So I'm happy. I was because I could add that. And so many crappy places in terms of teams and losing records, and that kind of stuff you kidding me. You're coming to team that this losses. Sunday finals could easily won the Cup that year with the team of veterans, and and and came with so much history and expectations in town. I mean, you know, what flight planet boss and or just being fan. How passionate the our expectation? So there was it was just a tremendous place to play. And you know, and I I had lots with Harrison. Probably about a month and a half ago in Florida. And I said, Harry, how did you how do you get the about pick from from LA? And he says, well, you says 'cause I got traded for wrong Graham, and the Bruins had this. He he he had played in the end WHM before that and he had won the MVP. I think of the w Chan, and Harry, that's what he said and says well LA calls me one night. There's the GM any owner. They're just getting shit face. And they call they call me. And they say, hey, we we liked that Ron Graham, and Harry says well. This is Ron grams. I said I can't I can't treat and he was the p of the year. W trade last year or the year before whatever it was. And he says, and by the way is there's there's not a player I want on your team since. So I mean, I I don't see a deal happening here said he says, well, if you know if you're talking about maybe a first round pick. I might think about it. And and he tells me says we had no big plans for Ron grants you should've so so they the two guys. Okay. Okay. We'll we'll take a battle. We'll get back to you. So they call a little later that night and a little more into a few more drinks. And they tell Harry reset. Well, you know, what we've been thinking about it. And it we're gonna give you first round pick for Ron Graham says well, okay, I'm gonna have to think about this. And they'll call you back in the morning. So every calls them back the next morning gets a first round pick for gray. And that I that being may. So was pretty funny. How that came about? About well, the people who don't know. I'm really good friends with your son, Chris. And so I was talking last night. He said, hey, we got your dad on the podcast. You got anything? I gotta ask him. He said, listen, you gotta ask him about his old age in Harry, cinnamon and raise I contract negotiation. So what's the back story on that one? Well, like, I said we were drafted August fourth. So we didn't have much time to go. She ate. So after going to Boston and milling was Harian Brad is. So then Harry flies to Montreal. So I made at the crown's role that the the door Val airport. And so, and and the background on my agent was he was the order by join your team who's the GM, and he was sometimes coach because he thought his coaches left, and right, so and he was an alcoholic, and he was a frigging Batman, and then intimidator, and I mean, don't Steve cast for I play Julia together, and you know, after leaving junior hockey like there's nobody that we're ever going to run into that's going to be able to TIMMY in terms of a coach because or GM or anything because what would just live we live for three years. So that's the type of guy he was and. So he we meet we start talking and small talk say, you know, our show happy about drafted Ray. And he say all you're gonna love this kid. He's gonna play great for ya. And and be a special player, and blah, blah, blah. So then, you know, we start talking business and my agent says, well, he says we want. We wanna hundred thousand signing bonus. We want a hundred thousand dollars for three years an onset. And and if it doesn't get that. Oh, have somebody breaker lakes? So so hiring areas such back, Harry's like and his name was Rodrigue and says rods and says if you have that something if you have that done to me says, you know, what we had Johnson for goalie for many years. Here is brothers head of the iris. Matthew and Montreal says, if you have something to me all have to have something done to you and the kid will have a contract. So I'm just sitting there thinking, I'll never play the NHL, and I can't tell you. I again, I was having lunch with Harry a month and a half ago, it came up again, I can't make this stuff up. So that's the type of guy that he was and but in the end and up getting a hundred thousand dollars a year and a hundred thousand dollars for three years at an option, so they kept and I'd be a lot richer now. Unbelievable story and one where there's probably gonna be some police involved after it gets released. I want to ask you to say he wasn't. He wasn't my agent for too much longer after that all the next year. I did you get to keep your three percent at least. Yeah. Well, he he got his his share. Yeah. It was probably might about a little more than three percent whole. Wow back contract for you moving forward. I wanna keep it fun talk your rookie party. If you if you even remember 'cause I know how the boys used to treat the young guys back then. And then just throw at your time in Boston like, what are some memorable rookie party stories, and I wanna kick it off with your own. All my own wasn't really. We didn't back then the bro wouldn't initiate anybody. You know, it was just a matter of the captain cold whatever back that after practice you go over four is pretty much every day after practice. We have a few. Yeah. I mean pretty much, you know days on and then if you go into town, captain would say, all right. We're going to displace everybody would make their that's the way it was. But, but then you know, I mean, then the salaries start really going crazy, and I have a great rookie party story with. So you know, when the rookie start paying for the mills when they're making good money. You know, there is I'm sure hope that there was probably about three or four or five or keys on the team. Because some of these meals would get up to twenty twenty five thirty thousand dollars where you know guys would order the most expensive wine Louis the fifteenth, the most expensive males or it was really crazy, and it would get out of hand. Sometimes he's that number as time is that the better version, then Louis the thirteenth. Louis the thirteenth maybe on. Remember frady ordering that might be thirteen. I don't know you probably I don't drink that crap. So if you're you're probably know better than I do. But anyways, the we're having rookie mail and Tampa Bay. I think it was called the White House. And it's a really nice place fantasy plays and expensive. And so, and you know, I mean you guys played so, you know, whenever there's a team meal, there's a shoot track that happens where somebody will get shoot tracked. And, you know, do you all kind of bring the glasses with your sport? And then, you know, case somebody got screwed here. Somebody's got some some kind of crap all over they're nice shoes. So, but that's your that. I was I sit in the corner, and I have little counter rid over. My my shoulder here behind me. And I'm I'm there take my nice new shoes with tassels on. I take them off and put them right up on the over my shoulder up on that little counter. And like, you know, the cagey veteran that I am I'm not going to get shoot trek. So let's see, oh, we order the food starts coming out. And there's lots to tell that comes out, my frigates shoe Tasso cut off. So I'm like are you frigging kid? To me. I said I stand up on my who is fucking with me here. I'm like, whoever it is. I'm gonna frigging fine. Who it is? And you're dead. I said, you're dead. So then I'm sitting best friend table. So old Seattle Motors sitting next to me is Rae. I'm on it. So then that finds out it's combat Clarita frigging rookie, and he's wearing this really nice leather this leather jacket that night at then really nice letter jacket. He goes up to the bathroom. Like rap is draft. I go to the kitchen. I tell us chef this lifelock both sleep. Now. It becomes a best. I put it back there. He comes back. He's like he's pissed and it's like what the hell happened said you messed around with the wrong guy. Talking about said, you less around with the wrong guy says it wasn't me. What would I said your dad, you're done? I told you in Mestre wrong guy. It wasn't. It was Otzi. So. Pretty salty and up by new person. So it's classic one other guy you played with for quite a while. And I'm not sure he's beloved as you were what something about Mike Milbury that you tell us that people might not understand about him. What may be a different side of Milberg that you saw. Mike as a player was I love playing with them. He was frigging tough. I mean, he's the guy that you know. I mean, I remember I think it was December twenty third nineteen seventy nine going up into the stands and hitting that. I mean, he he he says he only hit him once they kept playing it back and back back and forth. Back and forth. Looked like he hit the kid the guy with with his show about you know, nine or ten times. But Mike was you know, a tough guy to play against the credible. Teammates, always had your back and a guy that would show up play hard. But he was he was also a player rep back in the day. And you know, maybe some people don't know. But how involved he was trying to make the salaries public way before they came out. He knew all about Eagleton and did not like him and thought that. The players should really reignite and terms of getting together and divulging what kind of salaries, and there would be a lot better for everybody in terms of their negotiations. You never know what the guys made. It was all big secret. So whatever we'd go in a row, Mike would go in the positive the opponents dressing room like after one of their practices and all that stuff and trying to convince them to kind of come together. And let's let's go public with their salaries and trying to help everybody because he knew that Eagleton was frigging strewn everybody in playing both sides of the fence. So some people, you know, and I and I remember coming back from south Dan on on New Year's day after the ones or classic, and I was sitting right next to Mike on the way home to Boston. We just went over all that. And kinda brought that back and how how he couldn't believe that you know, the guys went and kinda. To get together and reunite on some like that. And it was all about Eagleton with his represented so many top players league. And they pretty much always they pretty much shot down like ideal about going public with all that stuff. But I think that what happened back then and I'm talking probably eighty three eighty four the salaries, I think they come in terms of the late eighties. How head of the game? Everybody would have been. I think in terms of golden negotiate contracts. When you you know, he became a Boston Bruin you wore number seven. And then for people who who are living under a rock that don't know one of the best moments in Bruins history. I think nineteen seven. Zito's number and you slide off your number seven jersey number seventy seven's on your back giving us the number. How incredible was that night? And is it true? Really had no clue he had no idea at all. That was coming. Well, I worth three numbers with the Bruins. I show up. I win number twenty nine in training camp. And then I show for the first game and number seven that my doll. And you know, I know Phil wore the number, and, you know, I don't say much again, I'm not saying anything just got dressed, but the jersey on and Bobby smarts comes over to me and says. If you hear any hecklers don't worry about it just play your game. And I'm like great, thanks for the number, right? And go out have an incredible year. Nothing said about it other than every once in a while. They you know, they would ask what what do you think? Phyllis busy, remember being retired? I'm like, he was a legend, his great Bruin went to cups. Of course, you know, the number should be going up there. And but Harian fell get after that trade. There's a pretty pretty large coal front between the both of them. And I think that's why Harry gave me the number to where. And so it comes comes time where they decided to retire the number, and I think it was December Kentucky in December nineteen eighty seven. And so nothing's being said about what's what's going to happen with the number up until what a clock that after? Noon. I got a call from Tara Riley. That's an Harrison's office. And I'm about to go down for a nap. We're playing the Rangers that night, Phil. I'm not sure if he was coaching or GM, I think he was jammed at the team back then of the Rangers. So what o'clock Terry's office says AM Silla Terry wondering if you know you'd be willing to. Seven to number seven ghetto go for warm up with number seven come back in a room going back room. Put number seventy seven hundred seven and go back out there for the ceremony and we'll call fill up you'll take number seven off reveal seventy seven. And so the way it happened. I mean, it's such a frigging lack of communication like typical from for time for the bat time back then where there's a lack of big time. Way worked out was fabulous. It was fabulous. The only people that knew my wife, and I, you know, the training staff, the coaches and Harrison, and no press no players nor fill a nobody knew about things. So I knew when I took off that jersey reveal seventy seven, and, you know, tell the story about the first time ever that somebody might have saw Phyllis busy speechless and just that look on his face. I know made his day. So no people up to this day people. I mean, no, you talk about my numbers all that stuff. The first thing that comes up is that night, you know, revealing seventy seven and fill that number like, it should have been never should have been given to anybody else, you know, the legend. And if things that he did in Boston nobody else should a win that number. So it was the right thing to do. Rate. You talked to what Harry Sinden I notice in your first year. Fred Creighton was forty twenty thirteen and you guys were I'm assuming heading into the playoffs right before playoffs. He got a he must have got fired. And then Harrison took over like what's that like is a rookie seeing that and what happened for guy to to get fired with that type of record or Caesar. Well, I couldn't believe it where I hold own. You know, and I think we had just we had lost seven games in a row think and guys have had grapes for I don't know. How many years may be five six seven years as a coach? And grape was bigger than life here and the guys loved them. And for Creighton was totally the opposite of Fred Creighton by what I understand. He was very dry, quiet guy and just just so different than grapes. And the guys hated him the guys just despise them. And after goal and seventy seven losses in a row. Harry decide to to fire of and take over so Harry coach remaining games of the season to the play offs. And but I couldn't believe it. You know, your first overall, and you fire coach, I've I've never seen anything ever happened before or after after that ever against them like that. Right. You alluded to some miscommunication with the Bruins in the eighties. Now, I know as a fan back in the eighties. It would get pretty frustrating because the front office the way the operated it seemed like they kind of kid more about the financial health of the league than than the team. How frustrating did it get for you as a player in the rest of the players in the locker room knowing that maybe the the GM in the front office wasn't fully on board with you know, going all over a winner back then? It always seems like you know, what we we're very competitive and very good and. And then, you know, I think when you look at eight or ninety you know, there's a couple of moves that were made. But as a player, you think that they could have been other mos- that would have helped an extra mole another over to would it really put us over the hump, and it really gives us the best chance to win a Cup. You know, I think a lot of our teams over to and. Yeah that was times. I was frustrating. You know? And and and then in the end, I mean, that's why I left what? The situation for couple years. They're just before I laugh, I always said I would never leave Boston. And the reason I laugh at because it was so bad. I thought it was so unfair for players and fans to to kind of be in that situation. I always always always wanted to bring passion and energy. And and you know, community said it's so much fun playing a game. You know, you could act like a fifteen year old every day with with what you toes living dream and played hockey as as living. So that that energy was really drained out of me, and at the end, and that's why I asked to be moved. I wanted to go into situation. There was a healthy one one that would give you energy to kind of find out exactly what I had left in a tank at thirty eight years old was it like I was like, well, my age that is draining me or is it the situation I was in. And I knew that situation wasn't a good one. So. Ended up going to Colorado about pretty quick now they had plenty left. And but yeah, it was at times it was fustrating. But I gotta say that, you know, with we had some great teams and great players, but but a player to would have made a big difference. 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But I gotta tell you that whoever they had representing the league or their team. Vertucci was unbelievable. I'll tell you. I walked out her I thought on that frigging minor leaguer, and you know, I was going in looking for. The kind of money that is franchise players were making, and you know. And just came out of there. You know? I mean for me, I was asking for four million. I would've accepted three. Then I came out of the arbitration with two point two five and then at side of deal for two point five or five years after that. But it wasn't a pleasant experience at one that really, you know, kind of scars you in some ways, but it wasn't a guy that was going to sit out. I wasn't a guy that was going to miss camp or this game that type of person that could not do that to my team or my teammates. So I thought the the only way that I could go about trying to make what I thought I deserved was going through arbitration. And it was it was tough to go through. I actually read a really cool article. I hadn't read before the oral history of your trade to the avalanche in ninety nine two thousand and I was interested to see that your your first choice where you wanted to go with Philly, and in the end that didn't work kinda give me give me the reasons why he wanted to go there. And then how amazing Colorado ended up being even though that first year. You guys didn't get it done. It took that next full season. But explain that whole situation for us. I we're kind of building our dream house at the time, and I had decided to ask for trade. And and then I was I was I'm really good buddies with Reggie lamb was the goalie coach or Philly, and I was looking at the teams that I thought would compete and give your command a really good chance and these conference I don't I don't wanna go west. I want to stay in east conference for travel and also for the situation I was in with the house, and my family being able to come back if the schedule allowed it or whatever and no one Eastern Conference a lot more. So I kind of looked at it. Philly was going, you know, really well at the time, and I I I knew that Philly was very interested because of my relationship with Reggie, and I knew exactly everything was going on their side than I was hearing from Reggie that was hearing from Bobby Clark. So we play Philly a Saturday afternoon game. I was last game. I play with the Bruins Reggie tells me it's done deal in the morning. And I think after that game I'm leaving with Philly. And I'm on my way and the game finishes pick up the puck. I was on the ice it come and pick it up into the room thinking, or I'm just gonna wait to hear from Harry in Harris County that something was going to happen pretty quick. And I you know, I had told Harry where I wanted to go. I remember calling him asking for trade when Chris was at governor Dummer to go to dumber, I got a call back from Harry, GM meetings and Florida poor pull out I had to take that call and ask for the trade town where I wanna go. It sounds like he, you know, his on board. And I know that he's talking to Philly and everything that's going on. They're gonna do back from or whatever for bread. So I thought it was gonna. Happen then trying to retire after the game at after noon can't reach them. Go to this office can't Sam and Danny find the calls Relator that night. And he tells me that you know, going to have to sit tight that. There's other teams in bulb and I'm like, well, they know where I wanna go more or less telling him shoes. Yeah. But you know, what I've got a I've seen this through. And that I got a call. You know, I don't Patrick's Coney windy. Owns husband ready as your little call me 'cause pure like quad. And this is this is how it goes. This is. Ready? I don't remember me as a guy. Right. I played golf with you two times. So cool you 'cause I heard there d- do gonna be traded. He says, you know, what you said go rattle is a really really could place. You would love it there. He says pure does not know that I'm calling you. And I'm just telling you that you would love Colorado. They got a really good team. Like, thank you. I said, you know, what it's not really where I wanna go, but thanks for the call. And so he's best friends with Pierre. It's like, yeah. Right pure. That's not dog. You're calling me right now. So yet call eight Patrick I knew you know, from living y'all playing golf Saint place. And then Dave Alec calls me. He was in Saint Louis at the time and says, right, it would you coming say, Lois, David somewhere. I wanna go and down. I'm here that Detroit's and the next jerseys in the back, and then, you know, talking to Harry, Saturday nights, and you're gonna have. Sit tight. So I don't wanna go practice on Sunday says I would play on Monday don't show up to the rank for something's going to happen within the next couple of days. So now, my wife, and I are looking at different schedules. All these five teams and trying to figure out, you know, their schedule and and wherever and up, and so then I got a call from Dave Andrew Chuck on the Monday night, they're playing oughta wall, and he's pulled off the ice and the warm up and he calls me his race. If you know what's going on this pull the off the ice. I said he says, you know, I think I'm going somewhere probably with, you know, have no clue so later on that night almost right after the game at the Pierre. Harry Cosby tells me that I'm going to Colorado. And then purely quite close me and then Patrick calls me from Calgary there in Cowdery. And he's got Adam Foote. Joe psychic they've read and Sean Podins neuro with them and their passive fought around all excited and kind of China a little bit. And that was it was that avalanche squad the most stack team you've been on and your career. Would you say? Yeah. Yeah. So then we yeah. So most talented team I've ever played on. Oh, I show up. So they truckin I leave the next morning. We send the clock chartered flight. The the they sent a plane for us. And we go through Kansas City. They get the Calgary. I don't know why we did that. But and planning Calgary that night and really really weird feeling walk into that room and seeing a different jersey with your number on it. I got Tresco out really second period. I'm behind my net and come out and I see Joe. Come across the blue line Ripa pass rate on his tape. He wrote the past. No, it was passing the hey to hey, due to sack on the other blue line goes in on a breakaway and scores. My. I think this might be fun and certainly wants tremendous team talented and really a team that you know, was ready to win when they got their ninety six and one and ninety six, but I think other achieve somewhat, you know, not get into the finals more often or winning another Cup. So you know, you go there and they're fighting for they're fighting for playoff spot. Actually, when I got there that you weren that always twenty two twenty three games or twenty three out of twenty six games or something like that to what our division, and then we, you know, we get this unplowed against Dallas that year, and you know, the post in the last seconds of the game and we lose by goal. And there that I was going back the next year. So and the next year was. Crazy from day one Bob Hartley. Really raise the bar in terms of expectations for not team knows more or less. You know, the Cup for bus expectations were really trying to focus on because terms of offense. We had so much talent. And but it was a matter of committing and really I have an incredible attitude and tries to play without the puck. I think you look at all great teams. You know, you look at the Oilers or the islanders or the wings. I think they never won cops till they're really, you know, really were focus on details. And and be tells probably without the puck and how to plan your round, and regardless of how much count you have offensive if you don't focus and really connect to be responsible. When that side of the park, I take you'll never win in the end. So he really really talked about that. I they cap and really worked on. That and try to ask terms of commitment from all the guys that if we could really focus and try to be one of the best effects of teams that in the end, I really give us a great opportunity to win guys really bought in. And we were the best defensive team in the in the league that year Patrick beat the the record for most wins my goalie had the best schools against savage. Joe won the Hart trophy score fifty goals. Hey to school fifty goals, we wanna presidents trophy really had an incredible year. And then you know, we get to the playoffs and. Happen. Ray you kind of mentioned the Hartley situation. Now, a lot of guys have been vocal about how they essentially hated his guts, extremely thankful. The fact that he cracked the whip that hard couple stories, obviously the one about him getting locked the locker room. I don't know if that one's true after you guys up, but in the other funny Hartley stories that you have or maybe like like fuck you matches. You guys got into along the way. We we had great leadership there. You know? Joe Joe Patrick myself, Adam Foote and Sean poor dad and Dave read. We we really really had a nice group. And and I know at some point in time in the playoffs that we're playing a certain way, and and we're puck possession team. And in Bob, how to like just, you know, not playing that way. And we're actually breaking down film in a hotel room between games playoffs and a lot stuff. And it's like, I just remember Patrick myself. Enjoy going up into Bob's office and talking about how we're playing and how we got him. They changes in terms of how we're gonna play to win. And and it was like, you know. You just want to keep it so simple in terms of you know, around the boards off the boards. And it's like, Bob, we gotta make changes. Here said, we're you know, we're looking at how we're playing we got to start you know, keeping POC and being puck possession team. And and so we, you know, he worked with us and we were with him. But it was we had to make some changes to allow us to go on and play the way we could. So that's that's why stories I don't remember him being locked in a room. I don't know if I was there for that. I heard he got locked out of the room after you guys finally won the Cup. Guys up with him at that point. While he was he was you know, what he was. He was tough. But you know, he was more than a third and fourth line guys, you know, and that. I think that's just too easy to do. So by I for me coaches that are able to keep their best players in track and keep them accountable. The special ones. And it's too easy to go. After the other guys, I get shit on all the time. Ray? What are your memories of Sean, Paul dean who famously didn't take equipment offer twenty four hours after you guys won the Cup? That that guy is one of the best teammates I've ever played with. He as is awesome. If you if you don't want your love him and if. If you ever chance to sit down and chat with him either special man, he heard that the record for somebody where they're quit after when an accomplice twenty four hours. So he shows up at our at our party at the Trump house right next to the pets center with his quickly on his skates. Escaped guards helmet, his gloves and his stick. And he kept that on for twenty five hours. I swear to God crazy unbelievable. And that was tell ya. I couple of Cup stories after that. We won the Cup that night. I mean, whether the cop this is frigging sick. I mean, it's they quite you know, I made for me. It was it was pretty much all that was left. That's why I went to Colorado. And then we get to you know, we got. To the finals. And you know, I mean, that's suit seems like it's going to happen. We win we win game one. We lose game too. We went game three we lose game for that. We're in tremendous shape for you know, we we should have won that game going away. We then we go on we're going back home for game five and everybody thinks, you know, we got a great record at all that we're gonna kick some but we end up losing five to one night game. They they spanked us. And now we're going back to we're going back to the jersey down three to defending champs. Always giving us a chance to win that game. And for me going into that year. I knew this is my my last season. I had a, you know, add Asprilla qualifer one year deal. He gives me to your deal, but I'm like pure. I just wanna when you're dealing some giving it to your deal. So regardless of what was going to happen in terms of me where they are losing. Here. I was done my wife, and I I told my wife this is it I'm done. So I'm going to the game six knowing that this might be my last game I'll ever play in the show. So all my family from Colorado. They go to New Jersey all my family and my wife's family for Montreal go to New Jersey and all my closest friends, go to New Jersey case, things workout. Well, we win for nothing that game. We're going back to Colorado and everybody I bring the Colorado. So we ended up going to Colorado and playing the game. We're up three nothing at some point. If we through the game, and I'm frigging sit on and back something like I can't frigging believe that I'm going to win the Cup. It's gonna happen. And you know, what we will work with sports colleges talked about state at the mold and say the present talk about, you know. The process not the outcome. And it was such a mental exercise that game to try to stay rate there in the in the ball and not let your your buying kind of drift to maybe what might happen that boarding three to one. And it was in incredible incredible feeling, and you know, an all joke talk about in terms of after game six chasing me down in a plane is like Ray, how are we going to do this? I'm like do what Joe he says? While the Cup thing, Mike. Well, Joe I said let's win the frigging game. I then we'll have plenty of time where we but the Cup thing. So all he was worried about is. He wanted to be right there next tool just to transfer the the Cup permitted hoisted. I, and what did it credible classy guy and another story about Joe sack is in training camp that year when I came back the second year he wanted to go for lunch, and they'll for lunch, and he's like race is you know, I really don't feel comfortable being. Captain with you on his team. And I'm Joe that his frigging amazing. Thank you so much that's very respectful, but I have way too much respect for you and your leadership, then what you do here. And you saw what I did last year for four months. I don't need to see her aid to do or say, whatever I'm going to say or do here. So you know, and all I think that would do if we go for a shit at some point of time during the season is question leadership, and this should never been questioned. So thanks, buddy. But just the classiest guy and one of the best players play with and hardworking guy and trips in his preparation. So Joe was just awesome. So we we win the Cup. We go to trial Powell's pose got his frigging shit on. And then peer qua- before leaving. He says bring a Cup with you can I so we're at the Trump about three AM, I've got this big van fifteen passenger van that you know, for all the people have in. In town watching the game. So I have a big cooler of the cups of front seat buckle. Then we go back to my house who turn on my street, and we started beeping the horn and three in the morning people coming out of their house who put the Cup on the sidewalk the cool street, and we party till six AM. So it was it was a blast. It was incredible. Those little run there. You're saving of work. We don't going to ask you the question. You just keep going right into the next one. It's perfect. Well, anything else? Yeah. Well, I was gonna ask you like a lot of our fans love the funds stories. And and we were wondering if there is anything off the top of your head, you think of maybe with your time in Boston or and if you can't think of one maybe a another prank story 'cause some of our fans love the prank stories. Well that that first day that we might cash in Boston. But I'm a criminal and I were. Drinking all afternoon floors, and you know. To Bradley, you know, three hours in the serrate is, you know, a westerner. I mean, the western guys are always their stories, and they're always better. And they're always bigger, and it's so bad. Like, right. How many times you go for this like? Like. I don't know two or three. He's all proud. Not once I'm like, well, good for you. Awesome. Anyways, we keep we keep trinket that you know, I played I played a lot of baseball growing up up until I got the Boston. So that softball games going on that night? So you stick a both out in right field, anywhere frigging or should face. We're going we're both in right field. And I tell you I went up to bat. I could not forget touch the ball cannot see the ball. So that was that was one one night that I, you know, I always kind of said I was pretty good baseball player, but that night not so much. So he's pretty cool night. We end up playing softball beating all the Bruins autographs, or like, well, this is going to be fun. I I heard a hilarious story on your on your first trip to LA all the boy said, I let's meet down at the pool, and you and you. You. Wandered down there. They still Speedo won't. I grew up in Montreal. So that's all we were. And so usually when you know, the captain tells us to eight to me that made out of bars, whatever on the road at LA were saying Marian courtyards right down there with the pool and all that stuff and Custos. All right. Let's on a pool and where last guys to show up and. Yeah, that was the last time at worst, you know, so. You would. Teammates Ray who was the funniest teammate. You had. You know, what cut the natto and Steve Leitch to get you going. They they were like a they feed off each other before game. They'd have this routine. That would get your laugh and get you loose like, no others. There were there were very very funny and very witty. So those two guys were among the top top guys. So they they had some good stories. I mean, you know, that goes on dress robes all kinds of terms of pranks and one of the pranks. I remember. Kenny lensman, and and Garry galley had something and what something starts one day when you do something somebody's close or whatever. Now this. I it seems like it never ends. So one day. I think Kenny might a did something to Gary is close. Then the next day. Gary grabs that KENNY'S James, and, you know, wet small down in the shower, then, you know, then he puts the pants and the in the icebox where where all the ice is coming from. So now kind of look for his pants, and now finds his pants and the cooler where the ice is the sound Agean how the past look now, they're all wet from the shower. Not bow. These things are frozen solid. So now he can't wear these things for a few hours puts the dryer. And so there's there's so much stuff that goes on that like, I said, you know, you you miss like. Fifteen year old real out adults and our different ages. You could be eighteen to forty years old and just they credible atmosphere to be part of a team and play, you know, for for professional team and to have that kind of fun and that kind of chemistry. So that's those are the things that you miss. You know, you miss your pre game Meal's pre-game that and then just fifteen year old pretty much every day. Well, Ray I mean, yet a career that people couldn't even really dream of you got it all -ccomplish doing great things. Like, we like you mentioned before it's the Bork family foundation board family foundation dot ORG. If you wanna check that out. So thank you so much for joining us and continued success in in whatever you do. All right, guys. Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work that air view was also brought to you by Dollar Shave Club. I love dollarshaveclub because it has everything I need to look feel and smell my best. What I love even more is the fact that I never. Have to go to the store. That's because one DSP delivers everything I need right to my door and two they keep me. Fully stocked on what I use. So I don't run out. Here's how it works dollarshaveclub has everything you need to get ready. No matter what you're getting ready for. They have you covered head to toe for your hair your skin your face. You name it. They have it. And they have this new program with automatically keep you stocked up on all the products use determine what you want. And when you want it and shows up at your door for once a month to once every six months, and that's what I do for. 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Sometimes you want to say things like doing this zapper. Oh, I got a call out anything about myself books Bugsy about his booger. Z loose stack. What am I friends has a burger or something in their teeth? I always be like, hey, you got something your teeth or a booger? I thought it might have been right? Didn't wanna like make them feel insecure about this it he had right inside his nose and up being booger. And I think some consciously that's why thought not to say it was big as your fingernails. Look took Bugsy twenty minutes to get it out of it. I was a little pointed. I like how you open that up with. I I would tell my friend and the Nakazawa a notch below. We haven't faced that yet. Whitehead, and I didn't want you make you feel insecure. And I thought maybe you had that. I might actually be able to get laid. Hey, talk about Grenell with just a tough head at the skills losing seven to me had that written down. My that was a bad way bread owes me to fifty two hundred who knows it was just a complete work fast for me. Every bet you made I won it was tough because the stamp coach won the stamkos one. I was down like two fifty. And then you're like all right doublet on stamkos right now. Stamkos scores here. You're you're even if he's doesn't your or you down five hundred and then he mass went down five hundred. I'm like, all right. One more one hundred bucks lost that. And then I got fifty bucks one. Yeah. You. Yeah. You other fifty. That's that's a tough tough skills competition. I don't have it decided like the blue light. If they'll be a blue light. I haven't keeps asking me for my van moment. I'm not ready to tell him. What to send yet? It's like, what will my mind decide. Will you be sending me the full seven fifty? Well, I say like just give me two hundred over in the middle. It's I told teeth at the bar last night. I was like. Yeah. Down like seven fifty to wait. He's got. I don't worry. I got you. Yeah. He was buckled. There's no chance. Connor mcdavid one is third fastest skater competition. That's obvious. It probably is last one though, right? Zev is Brian like you said the teen. Change the rules back to hook it and holding. Let's go back to last podcast in. Maybe I should have watched the way spoke. But what I meant was is that they're going to be burning three to four years of his true pine, but probably therefore before they're able to compete. I didn't mean that's all he has left in his fucking prime. So if I said something that sounded differently. That's what I meant. And I might have been fact said that some of you probably don't listen carefully enough. I knew what she meant. But I also knew you get rip for it. So I was happy. That's when you'd be right in his prime like twenty eight usually like primetime. Yes. He wanted actually might be working out the best way right now. Everything happens for getting a little younger, now, whatever let's not even get into it. Whatever you guys can rip me. I can take it. Patrick Marlowe getting a little shoutout from Austin Matthews. I thought that was cool, of course, Marlowe played forever for like what two decades and San Jose, those really cool. I like that moment came out of nowhere to little specialty doing his jersey of bull Marlow doa school. But it's funny to like the fans were like loving it. But he wasn't traded he'd left on his own. I know I know I always think that too, but like twenty years there, right? Like, even if he leaves. But also the other funny thing is like they who they they're Boone the piss out of Crosby. Unlike really like is because he beat them in the Cup final. I know. But like he's at all time legend like, I don't know. It's the all star game. I think that one was more of a more of a like Habu like we're back 'cause he has a real hard when that sharks guy with the first two on his forehead was screaming. Yeah. Where I think it was a little more vicious was when they put it through dowdy on the Jumbotron, they were booing because they wanted to boo, and they even went as far as the San Jose. You know, how they're setting up the also game. They put drew out face. I one of the shot targets. Oh, did they when when they would hit his face? So we'll maybe compare all fucking pay all the targets different faces. But I was making pink Whitney's. Yeah. But it was funny that they had a drew doughty one. I mean, there's only there's only five targets. I mean like they could have picked they clearly picked out because he's a ri-. He's doing thing. Now, where everything you say he'll say something different than look over laugh at us. This is this is this he'll know folks doing this. Oh, okay. Sorry. I wish I wish we know about anglin quiz soup before we interviewed me. I stated did you happen to catch it? Oh, I know our stroking his caulk off with herbal active. Hey, sick three P suit on and on the inside. It was it was all godfather movie characters on the inside. Thank all wear that in here are all over them swipe. Yeah, was all quotes from the movie with the pitcher, Don, Vito Kaleo, and it was definitely sweet. I didn't know it was his favorite movie. We didn't actually get to that. We didn't. We didn't really ask him what he did on his days off. But would have been cool to get say lovey as they say another thing too. I wanna thank Uber. They actually called me after our little mishap there, of course, the eleven dollars and thirty cents. Was refunded back to my Uber account because they cancel the trip. And I'm you know, that I had my guy and the actually even sent me a hundred dollar gift card that was not necessary. I'm a principal guy. Just returned the money. You guys know that but you'll you'll keep the extra hundred credit. Well, I I somehow can't access it. So if the same Uber guy is listening. Coal back over eight. Maybe we'll even talk you guys in some swipe ups. Maybe we'll get you sponsor in the pod too. So give me a buzz back. We're gonna figure how to activate that hundred dollar gift card that you gave me because of your mistake, that'd be appreciated just thought I should mention that. Another woman was seen a little kids out there burns sees in paps kids. Just we think bugs you said. Like, they have no idea either. I mean, you're you're born you don't know anything different. But just the fact that I think everyone else sees that. Like, all these kids are just living the life. It was cool all burnt burnt toll today when we interviewed him ease. I my kid would not stop trying to just like fl- do the flaw stance. He just he wouldn't stop doing celebrations. I'm like I'm gonna when this cameras off. I'm gonna all little bit of a p wack from the spit and chickens community to teddy because he didn't mention the couch flames when we talked about the Wayne, Wayne when when should you have mentioned them what all we're talking. We asked who's going to be in the finals. And who'd who'd you like, and you know, like you guys never talked about the flames. We talk about. We said that the best party team league in there fucking wagon and it really in the Pacific Division. Like, what do you? What more? Do you want to say exactly I thought we've actually done a lot of talking Calgary? We talked about Jere dano, and how awesome of guy is when he hit his thousand gay and he should be at the all star game. Probably. Pays for a hundred win the north. I just hate James Neal. He's a scumbag. So I didn't want talk. He's obviously these guys are friends with James Neal, so free those who are going to go on a Twitter rant and say that these guys hate each other. That's not the case, right Bugsy. Well, I don't know you can say anything on Twitter. That's a good that makes more sense than I he probably realized it does it can say anything on that being Edmonton. How much that fan base hated us? Now, we have the whole province of Berta hating us. We didn't mentioned claims. Yes. So you guys got both admit are. But even bird, it doesn't matter because Bill Peters came over to our table last night at dinner. Oh, yeah. Forgoing swung over and said Hello flames coats. Yeah. He did. So he might he might know that we're pumping them up. Always part. Can you guys? Stop talking with my team ripping it up. Well, he was ripping up. He is having a couple of cocktails. I have one more thing written down as far as the store. You said you wanted me to wait to tell me on the actual podcast. I don't know if that sentence made sense wit, celebrating a second assist story. Because you're talking about guys celebrating assist who was oh about two to remember. Yeah. So I actually was thinking of a different one. But the one that I that I was part of I was over in the at the under eighteens, and it was like summer going. It was like spring of my senior in high school. So as big tournament like the drafts the following year. You know, like big deal, and I didn't have a point through the first four games of the Purnell. Preliminary speak much Houria a preliminary rounds, I didn't have a point. So the fifth game. Dude. I snap it. We're up seven. Nothing. I snap it over to my deep partner. Right. He fires it down the wall. A guy gets it makes a move. Nice move on the goal line Snipes at top shelf. So I got a second says, but I have now passed it like forty seconds earlier. You know what I mean? And we're skating to the pile, and I was just like fist pumping. I'm just going and so hard just Rippin my fist, and I'm just so. Fired up because I knew I got an assist on the play. And the next day. We're watching the video cO the coach Alex Roberts. He stopped at. He's like you're this happy that you got a second assist. Where were the frisked pumps when you were going into the pile? When you didn't get a point. I was like they were there. They were just a little bit smaller. So I got shit on for that one. But I don't know how that came. That was to brought up that story about set up. He did. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said they up we would score in two seconds sissies fist pumping. In the other corner. Yeah. That was that was up interview was awesome. That one I think people really enjoy their people enjoy all of them. But wait, you told me to mention when we were at the game on Sunday that Bizet's fake punt guy. Oh god. Biz is the guy, I realize this quickest first time ever watched football with them. It's fourth and twenty and they're on their own ten watch for the fake watch. Villa fake watch for the fake punt goes in the air sixty five yards change of possession. Next time. The guy gets fourth and fifteen watch for the fake watching the fake. And I was like two times doozy's a guy every time. Sure shit. The third time. Do we got to watch for the fake hair their midfield? This could be a fake time. And I was like you're the you're the watch for the fake punt guys like what do you like you keep telling us to watch for the fake every time there's a punt. You're the guy that it happens the thirty fifth time, you know, you've been saying like told you told Jones God with the interception guy hit deception. Yeah. Who's talking about when there was like twenty seconds left last week? And it was like twenty seventeen this games. Got OT written all over it cons. Another one. It's like it's a three point game. And it's fourth down in the teams you ship show on their offense of twenty yard line. So, you know, fifteen twenty five yard or coming up it causes like this game shaping up for like you say doing as he ties up the game with the clock winding down then later in the game. Con con. No they did in the patriots game. 'cause the patriots end up going. Oh, he goes this game shaping up for you. Don't say so Kevin Connolly is not to your punt watch for the fake punt. I'm gonna be in the torch online for that, boys. That's that's a pretty long podcast interview. Once again, the west coast wagon tour is now over we're going to be pumping out tons of content. All the interviews, of course, featuring Bugsy and teddy. Of course, thank you to new Amsterdam vodka who sent us on this all star extravaganza weekend. Grenell wants one more here. I think RA has a little gambling corner for the boys. What actual court? Well, we didn't have on the other day because the NHL took a break for the all-star game. And a lot of teams are on their buys right now. 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Savor Classics: Sour Beer

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Savor Classics: Sour Beer

"Today's episode is brought to you by fresh cravings which is a company that makes them sauces and they reached out to us and they wanted so much for us to to fall in love but there's also that they sent us so much salsa. Oh yeah so we did the only thing that we need to do absolutely we through salsa party of course and <hes> yeah our our office manager got his case. It is and bare. It was terrific but yeah we we were really impressed by like these. These houses are fresh. They're not cooked pasteurized so they taste homemade. Yes and we weren't the only ones that were impressed was big hit. Fresh cravings want you to think differently about salsa because it should contain fresh. Ingredients and bold flavors were celebrating. That's why they created refrigerated. It's also a homemade taste bursting with fresh vine ripened tomatoes chris handpicked vegetables and zesty peppers and spices. There's also come in both restaurant style and chunky both table in mild medium and hot ru. You can find fresh cruising salsas children the produce department next to the bagged salads only and salad dressings and to answer our i._t. I._t. Guys main question to find the store nearest you. The carries fresh cravings you can visit fresh cravings dot com hello welcome saver production of iheartradio and stuff media and i'm laurin vogel bob and today. We've got another classic episode for you. This one is about sour beer which are all laredj right now. Oh goodness migrations okay so the episode originally i came out back in september of two thousand seventeen <hes> and the numbers about growth that we report there are like a little bit startling but but we've got some updates for you that are even more startling her even more so yes because i mean in in in case <hes> sour beers are not a thing that you look for or notice a lot on news news <hes> which i do because i'm usually looking to order those <hes> from july of two thousand seventeen to july of two thousand eighteen sales sour beers rose forty two point seven percent in the united states. <hes> sales here reached fourteen point eight million dollars and nielsen named two thousand eighteen the year of the sour. I feel like we're we've been in like in the decade of this hour. Yeah oh i love it. You're there for every minute of it. Oh gosh yes our in the middle of the winter talk all the time they are. They're very refreshing at any time they are but they are pretty much summer beer. I was at a sour sour beer festival. What seems like years ago but i think it was yesterday was only a day and it was really funny <hes> yeah it's hot hot hot here. Oh it's quite warm. It's like it's like lauren stays inside. There's a heat advisory right now. Oh gosh <hes> yeah so get your salary festival. It was so fun and i found twenty more cousy twenty. I am impressed with myself. I self i your entire house is going to be filled mukusev's at a certain point. It's it's not terribly large. I mean i know anybody who has any crafting ideas for what i can do. All these cruces. Please send them to me. So far. I have is make a costume out of its why become giant cousy yeah for like a vast amount oh they could work. Maybe they're absorbent. Yeah sure that's more or less the point them exactly <hes> also this was before we had a formalized nutrition section are episodes so i wanted to say here that <hes> sours actually tend to be lower than many other styles which tend to be lower. You're in calories than higher a._b. Beers so <hes> so they've been kind of glommed onto by fitness centric folks who are looking for that sort of low calorie thing <music> drink responsibly yes but i suppose that's that's about what we have to say. When it comes to the update yes and so i suppose now we will let former anion lauren take it away <music> and hello and welcome to foodstuff more welcome and i'm an aries and today we're talking talking about sour beer or it could really be like a two parter sourdot partout or the prequel oh sour adowa though prequel but first right off the top oh hey drink responsibly yes disclaimer yet ago okay and we will do episodes about other types of beer in the future but we wanted to start with sours because because before refrigeration and pasteurization astor's asian pretty much all beer was sour beer a lot of things i read called it the original beer it was yet another accidental discovery that we yeah we kind of talked about it. Loosely briefly in our sardar episode because the discovery of beer is probably closely related to that of bread. Yes yes but let's let's go ahead and ask the question. What is sour lauren. What is it sour. Beers are our beers that contain a larger than usual amount of sour tasting stuff that makes sense <hes> specifically of sour tasting or acidic compounds <hes> which tastes sour yes <hes> while most beers hover around like a four on the peach scales sours tend to dip below that like as low lowest three and since the ph scale is a logarithmic one that means that they are up to sour beers are up to ten times more sour than other beers. The peach scale l. by the way was developed during the study of beer thing. I didn't know that's of course it was yeah. The the sourness in sour beers achieved with a combination of particular particular yeasts and bacteria that produce a number of unique flavor compounds as the beer france and yes friends. This means that this is another another episode about bacteria talk about this all the time. Fermentation isn't so much more stuff than i realized i <hes>. I really can't wait to do our pickle episode. It's going to be great. Okay so beer basics one. Oh one all right yeah to make beer you heat grains and water in a mixture stor called wort wort and then you let the wart ferment <hes> that is you either add yeast to induce from tation or you let wild yeast get i and go to town the yeasts eat some of the sugars in the grains and they excrete three kind of categories of stuff <hes> alcohol carbon dioxide which provides the bubbles and and other compounds that flavor the brew the yeasts that are active in making most beers are of the saccharomyces genus which which means sugar fungus by the away sugar from sugar fungus sounds so much less sexier equally sexiest saccharomyces anyway <hes> these these critters do float around in the air but it's most expedient to add them into a beer yourself either from a fresh new culture or from the farm of a previous batch of beer at barham you you might remember from our sara episode. Is that foam the develops on the top of fermenting liquid <hes> it's also the root of the word barbie meaning like foolish or are ridiculous and i cannot believe that i didn't put that together in our saturday episode either barmy and such a great words. I know i've been i'm trying to use that word more often now. Now i can have an annoying to throw in with it as well. Oh yeah all on now but so to make sour beer you also want to involve some yeasts from the genus britannia crises often called brett for short either replacing or in addition to saccharomyces tax nominally speaking a. brett's are from the same order as saccharomyces but from a different family <hes> their original habitat is the skins the fruits brett yeasts each sugar <hes> including long chain more complex sugars at sacrificies do not and they excrete acetic seatac acid which is the fancy name for vinegar plus some other compounds that add flavors. They're also more enthusiastic than saccharomyces and so therefore for brewers of wine and beer actually have a hard time keeping them out. <hes> you know they can tolerate a more acidic environment they can enter the process therefore and thrived bribe during primary fermentation during secondary fermentation in barrels or even during bottling brett is sometimes called dicara in the wine world <hes> and it is not people there are not a fan of it no and it's also sometimes called the beer ruin her who has like a it could have a barnyard in yard flavor component yeah yeah one of the one of the <hes> flavor components at ads in there is frequently referred to as like yeah like barnyard or like wet dog dog yeah and i have a friend named brett who i almost one hundred percent positive is not listening but if he is i got such a huge huge kick out of like all senses that had brent in there about hell always coming in and ruining everything was funny. Oh that's amazing hybrid. Hi hi sorry about it. Yeah <hes> sour beers also usually involve our old friends electic acid bacteria <hes> most often of the species pedia caucus lactobacillus sours frequently also employ a genus of acetic acid bacteria called a c._t._o. B-actor which alike like brett yeasts <hes> excrete s._a._t. Gasset <hes> <hes> some beers by the way that are more sour than usual. Get that way with the the addition of nonliving ingredients like passion fruit or something like that. I like the term nonliving ingredients. That's fantastic. Yes sour beer is pretty large umbrella. It includes a lot of stuff one way. I saw it categorized in the beer. Business is <hes> you've got long-term sour beers and these are beers that are fermented with a mix of <hes> specific bacteria and east and then aged usually in a barrel mm-hmm for a specific amount of time at least six months but could be up to two years could be <hes> blended and then typically allowed to reform it in the bottle to achieve leave the desired level of carbonation. That's kind of a fancy way of doing it. Yes that's the real way with pretty heavy scare quotes around that yes also <hes> <hes> it produces a a more complex flavor. Beer is what i read. It's pretty close to the to the metal champenoise yeah actually so it is that's why that's why those those those types of beers tend to be more expensive <hes> as opposed to short term sour beers which are kettle soured and you you do this by adding electro in the kettle sour beer in a matter of days before the bureau lactose boiled off and then fermented with broucci's electa being those those <hes> lecco oh <hes> lactic acid bacteria but we're friends so i like to call and this i saw frequently described as a one and dimensional beer so these are you know people are beers their business and tasting business so i'm sure that i'd probably i could tell but i wouldn't be too too inside about too much about it because it's a beer and it's delicious yes pretty much in sour beers have undergone a lot of growth lately. If you haven't noticed yes in two thousand and two they made up only fifteen entries at the great american beer festival but by two thousand ten that number was one hundred nineteen entries yeah and some. I think that the term itself sour beer ear has been a part of the problem when it comes to convincing folks to try the product because sour beer is traditionally beer. That's off or rotten and it requires acquires a leap of faith for you to try it. Oh yeah i have a friend who refused to try sour cream until until adulthood for this reason <hes> and if you're if you're listening daryl. I'm glad that you've seen the light. We have a lot of friends. We got messages four in this episode yeah i had i thought at least that i had my first our beer nick less than a year ago i one of my favorite <hes> bars and the bartender described it as a vegetable beer and i immediately said well clear loose but i've i've got to try it and give me some of that horrible sounding. Thanks got vegetable bureau and i tried it and i didn't like it because i was expecting beer and it was like not what i think of puckering yeah. That was very pucker. You it's actually one of my favorites now though i i kept drinking it because i'm a stray cat and i'm not gonna throw anything away and it grew on me yeah. It's at atlanta by orpheus. That's an excellent one too yeah but doing the research episode. I realized i've had a lot of sour beers. I just i didn't that's not how i thought of them right and when we will talk about that more later but before we get to that let's take a quick break for word from our sponsor in this episode is brought to you by city. It's hard not to think about going on a vacation. Oh yes getting to actually actually read books. Eat new food places. It all sounds amazing right. Yes yeah we thought so too well. 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Thank you sponsor so let's go to the way back the way back the way way back like humans don't have wheels and yet but they have figured out that if you let grains plus water like hang out for a while the result is maybe tasty and definitely will make you feel away <hes> mhm it's similar like we said at the beginning to sourdot brewers would wait and hope for wild bacteria in east to work their magic <hes> <hes> and they didn't really know what they're waiting are hoping for oh no no no what they knew that indicates here it yes exactly and while they didn't control the brewing process in this way they did they could distinguish between a good sour or a bad sour or rotten sour and they probably knew that there was a difference in flavor based on on the season that this thing happened this magical thing yes some historians theorize that beer and the love humans half where it was the impetus for us to start doing agriculture at all. Oh yeah which if true means beer has been around for like ten thousand years ears. We actually got a <hes> listener mail about this so i'm glad i'm glad i came to discuss the theory goes that based on the discovery of <hes> piles of animal bones and large stone barrels that may have been used to brew like a grasp here at in we digress shares true i for some reason i imagine just like handfuls of green grass. That's totally accurate. You're right. They found these things on eleven thousand plus last year old temple ruins in southern turkey <hes> and they think the humans may have settled down there to build a temple to worship more and we all know the the best way to get people to help you out when you're moving on building. A temple is food and beer bribe right clearly so from there you'd need to domesticate grains not read but for all your bribery beer oh yes so according to this theory beer ear kane before bread or at least in this particular instance share but it is just there yeah interesting pre written history by a long shot <hes> <hes> yeah and the bones by the way they tell barbecued barbecue beer. Oh man help somebody move now now. There's a side. The oldest written record of beer comes to us in the six thousand year old him of knin kathy and it goes as follows in kasey. You're the one who pours out the filtered beer of the collector vet it is like the onrush of tigris and euphrates frady's. Oh wow yeah that's beautiful. Okay evidence found at a mess potemkin trading outpost in present day. Iran indicates barley was being fermented there by three thousand five hundred b._c. The sumerians we're making beer around that time too and a little south of egypt in ancient nubian culture was fermenting ale like beverage called busa. Yes ancient sumerian text mentioned eight barley charlie beers eight immer beers which is a type of week and three mixed beers they described the experience of drinking beer and written documents as exhilarated wonderful and blissful sounds about right yeah drink responsibly but by the way this was about the time that humans invented wheels for pottery and then for wheeled vehicles a few hundred years later <hes> the first wheeled chariot probably happened around thirty two hundred b._c. So humans had add beer for thousands of years before anyone had to worry about designated drivers well. You know that's that's very so interesting. I guess that makes accents because food is more important than moving stuff at a certain point yeah still kind of strange though right the ancient colonials had records of twenty types of bruce's by two thousand and each citizen got a daily ration in an amount fitting to their social status. Wow yeah you could even be paid for work and beer the ancient egyptians had records of five types of beer and had a five thousand year old saying that went may have bread that doesn't go stale and beer that doesn't go sour which the think in this case meant rotten bad sour all beer would have been in sour at the time at the time by the way a beer brewing was done almost entirely by women they also oh had over one hundred medicinal prescriptions for beer again a case of the like the like we like this stuff so let's find ways to make this work right right yeah because you kind of makes it careless. That's true the ancient greeks and romans though they thought that beer was a barberie and drink they had so many great opinions they'd really they really did <hes> they were much more partial to wind surprise <hes> their record occurred circa five hundred b._c. E of beer being brewed by germanic groups but they were kind of looked down upon and here's a quote from historian tacitus to drink the two tonnes have a horrible brew fermented from barley or wheat abreu which has only a very far removed similarity to why and horrible brew harsh brewers at the time would add things like honey to enhance like the flavor and smell a lot of the earliest years were made with grains that still have the hustle them so a lot of the ancient carvings depict people drinking beers out of straws. Oh yeah like little straws. Yeah and they're very long. I found the carvings interesting very long straws. If we skip ahead to europe in the middle ages the catholic church got involved in beer brewing mostly make money many in christians viewed beer as a gift from god until the nineteenth century brought brought with it concerns of alcoholism now hold temperance movement. We talked about before we have also seen as less risk than drinking water because water had all the bacteria really expect sense. A lot of bacteria can