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"brenton sean" Discussed on Hogsmen Podcast presents Talk To The Hog
"Don't care if the wrestling community does not like. There's there's people out there in the celebrities out there. Comedians out there that if they something say something bad about the wrestling they don't care and You know he obviously does not care because he wouldn't even harder On the wrestling fans and listen guys. It's funny man. I'll say that it's funny. The best rate of to the best thing is this if if he wasn't getting some kind of coaching from someone interesting because he mentioned several guys from e w you mentioned like cody and a couple of the guys that. I'm like dude. You don't know them unless you like. You know cody of all people. He sure shit wouldn't know cody. So someone's got to tell you. Like cody or a friend's got to be like. Oh Hey mentioned cody. He's he's a good name right now. Or WHATEVER RIGHT. How do you mentioned cody? Because I don't think there's a lot of non wrestling fans that would know cody is. It is such a good. He'll promo yes is such a good. He'll promo the way he goes about it and shits on everyone and it was just like that's always like men. He had to have some help like he's a funny guy. He's very knowledgeable he's Witty's Hell Almost like someone had to tell them like. Hey say this and this and this because it was so good. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's interesting how how far wrestling has gone away from cave. Because not too long ago they had the the dark side of the ring with David Schultz. And it's all about him. Just paintbrush that John also guy twice right to face. Hey Man if you go around these old these old timers back. Then you're you're you're trying to fuck up their their means of income right so that's not. Okay they're obviously going to you. Go to any industry in you. Try TO FUCK UP. Their means of income. You'RE GONNA piss some people off yet right and so johnstone well if you guys don't know what you know about the story. He's a reporter for sixty minutes. He's doing a thing about how wrestling's fake he's at a WWF event. And Vince Sends Dave Scholz who's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet To Go do an interview Johnstone Sel Star says I think this is fake and Scholz. Immediately open hand slaps him knocks him to the ground. And as soon as possible gets back up. He Wha- Schultz open hand again knocks him to the ground. Stoskopf goes running off and really fucked them up. But Hey man. The Guy was playing with fire. But now you have nowadays. You have wrestlers that openly say. Yeah this because obviously. Vince went on ninety six or something like that. So this fake. This is sports entertainment. So let me ask you this. Because I mean for the longest time. They had legit wrestlers holding the straps. And doing you know sixty minute. Broadway's long they had rounds and stuff. So what was the move where people are like what this is bullshit? 'cause I saw some matches back in the day where they were doing suplexes and backdrops and all types of Shit and even like not Hurricane Rana's but like a head scissors takedown that we're allowing. That's pretty fucking convince man. So what what? What was it where they're like all right? That's bullshit this is fake. There had to be something where at some point people like this. Fuck these people are. They're they're screwing us over here? Well what was it in the forties? It got it got exposed the gold dust trio somebody Some wrestlers they expose the the matches were preplanned. But I'm saying if you were if you were watching in the crowd like what is the move. That long-term destroys the industry. Where like that fucking move. No one's GonNa take that well nowadays. There's a lot of those moves so we're talking you talking about like back in the day back in the day. So yeah that's what I'm saying so for the evolution of wrestling. So let's say we're at the fifties sixties seventies is whereas like pretty available on television and saw. So let's say we're in the seventies what move comes in where people like. I don't buy that Shit. That's fake I'm trying to think of. I mean it's gotTa be anything where you're just kind of like jumping off the ropes. And you know here here okay. Here's one thing right. Undertaker big name in the infrastructure wrestling obviously has long career. Big Fan of cast too. So Watch out what you say. But I don't even know if I realized that when I was a kid but when you walk up on the ropes and jumps off with You know holding an arm and he jumps off. What's what's that move called remember. It's called school new old school. That's ridiculous who in God's name whatever go up to the top rope and balance while you know a guy is just standing there on a firm serve a flat surface you know obviously would just pushed the guy off. But I didn't pick that up when I was a kid but obviously that's not very believable in real fight even further. Like it's got all right. I'm trying to think in my own head now. Like a bulldog. Would you be like that bulldogs bullshit? Like that's pretty silly. A bulldog man that can be pretty deadly. If you have a grip on a guy's head like that that can be a power a power bomb the first ever power people like. Oh Shit but no one was like. Oh yes. Those early power bombs were ugly though man like they were like guys were landing on the back of their heads. So maybe you can kind of believe that. They weren't cleaned like they weren't like the power. Bob's nowadays where people know how to go up back in the day. Man you see some of the vader power bombs like. He's just dropping. You know dropping like second potatoes man. I don't know but it's it is interesting. How for like how we see how wrestling claw? I've got it the fucking clock killed wrestling. Who did that did Eric's did the clock? I don't know who else did that was before. The claw is the most ridiculous looking shit in the world that had to kill wrestling. I'm telling you the Canadians. Six degrees from seven Bacon. The Canadian destroyer is directly related to the claw. There's no way it's not. I watched I watched I watched Lawler versus von Eric I don't know last when the very beginning of this thing. And he grabbed them with the claw. Callers on the ground wiggling and kick out of it not once that. He tried to grab his hand. Got It away. Basically so the client had to be the one where people are like all right. This should. It's fake amount. I'm sure I'm sure there's something out there that we're forgetting right now. That's just so blatantly like hit us up on at hogs been pod on twitter and let us know what ridiculously shitty move from back in the day. We're forgetting the killed wrestling. Yeah let's kill wrestling even more do it. Let's do it. We're almost up on our dude we're doing we're doing. Brenton Sean Right now. Is there anything else that we needed to cover or we we wrapping? It's A. It's a short episode this week guys. It's Memorial Day Uncle Teddy's not here to help us out. We get. It's just your your your favorite hogs men. Just powering it out for you guys terrain where his hair man? Where for you guys just hitting this thing hockey style off by the way that's an extra and hug style there it is there it is now. Let's just let's let's wrap this up. It's are taking it home Shout to Ten barrel brewing beer cheap fund beer. What's up go get you some Devastated earlier sade again Go listen to us on apple podcast. Google podcast spotify. And if you WANNA leave a rating go forward if you WANNA leave a comment. Go for it. We appreciate it. We're trying to get paid here guys. We're trying to get paid all right. Speaking paid go to my twitter account at Devon's sparks checkout Promo Mania. Vote for the American..
"brenton sean" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Either way it's a big deal when TNA tries to make at this move when you first hear that this is the plan TNA is going to Monday nights as you think. This was a bone headed idea or worth a shot all. I'm glad I did it because you know it would settle issues once for all you know that we're we're going to be the dominant brand Monday night. Come hell or high water. We'd earned that right through the eighty three week debacles and asked opens we were Oklahoma and they were LSU eighty three weeks. It wasn't fun. So so I I nobody. Our place was was worried. Concern might be a good word. I'M NOT HELL I don't know but you know what I mean is. We're aware we had. We had competition. We had to get good. We had produced a better product all the stuff that competition brings you. Competition folks. Folks is good for wrestling. The best thing for Monday night. Raw Right now if you WANNA make raw better put another show against a son viability and I'm talking about. Aws talking about Ah some other group but that you get better when he got competition as what makes games industry that's why they keep score for God's sakes it's it really is just make sense so I it wasn't an intimidating. Thank you know. Look individually. There's a the talent you name. Conrad is a tremendous addition to tremendous roster. I should say but I didn't ever believe the for some reason that they had the leadership and that one person in place where they had complete autonomy to do as he or she chose and because of that not having that person there Prada acknowledged with a one decision maker. I didn't think they could ever be successful. I am curious. Do you think that Vance wanted to stamp out any potential. You know big I live for. TNA So let's do the biggest most unthinkable thing we can. Let's get Brent Heart back into the fold you think that will some strategy about not just having him come back. We're having him come back on this particular show. I don't think it was the only strategy for starting off the year. The Bang for the obvious reasons I show the year. Make it big. You know we did that in Jacksonville to the night with. Aws W awesome show. But there's a lot of motivation. The fans are motivated the TV audience as motivated and You know our talents are motivated because it was the first show the years Newgen so I think that we are more excited about that but to say I'll be lying to the audience here and I don't do that. Shit yeah it was. It was an issue of course if we can have a great show on the on the on New Year's night loaded New Year's night show and it happened to be against it's the debut a TNA then so be it but Then and the hello they. They had a good night to that night. No question question. Let's keep it Movin. Let's talk about that day. The creative we know is going to be Brenton. Sean in here together. which which is Kinda Weird On the other channel Dave pincers going to introduce Hulk Hogan live on impact. Meanwhile here on Raw Justin John Roberts Introduces Bryant. Heart breath comes out on stage. He stood out. The long hair is still got the leather jacket. Now's rock and the Jean Shorts and Jerry lawler on commentary says something like you know it's been more than a decade sitting seen Bret Hart including me and He starts his Promo. Oh by saying well. I guess he'll froze over. Talks about how a lot of people WANNA know why here tonight and why now. And he said he's had a lot of time to think about all things has been twelve years and it's an amazing feeling to be here. He's trying to find ways to come back over the years. But Vince would always declined to say it wasn't possible they says it's great to be back now you can finally talk to the WWe universe and There's a big welcome back chanting. And he says something like it's nice to be back as we continue to sort of move through this. He's thanking the universe for your Torquay flag and saying he hasn't been gone another says written. It's just off the top of the kids off the cuff off. The head is in for improvising. He's talking from his heart art so the things he said it was repetitive. Some of the things. If you're wordsmith you might not you might not do but it was a real honest legitimate intimate promo and it showed you that. He wanted to get this off his chest. He wanted to cleanse himself as best. He could of any existing being an ongoing animosity between Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart because that was just chip away at one negative though he could continue to do that and get things positive around him again. He was being very honest. And at Promo and the other issue is that when Shawn comes out you got shaw being the same way Sean. Sean was very honest about what he what he said and he meant every word he said so all the sudden you get you get a promo. Oh that's not written by writer. WHO's looking for this sh and these two guys out deliver classics and those are the promos? You and I are talking about today. Ten years later that other people are talking about as well ten years later. That's money he puts over. This is the same building where he Won The very first king of the ring and then he says he needs to get some things office. Chess any calls Shawn Michaels to the ring. Of course this is not just off. The cuff has had to be discussed ahead of time talking to him a little bit about. Well you look just. You're mixing mixing metaphors here. The dialogue was was. They knew the general direction because they both knew they wanted to make McKee's but the structure who called out who and how to reduce the interview. Yeah that was but nobody knew exactly what was going to be said once Sean got the ring or whatever it's two to different pieces of business there but yeah there was a a plan to to to stage it in a block it off production standpoint did I guess my question is has when we're seeing it in the ring that day. It's not the first time Britain. Sean saw each other that day or did they get together. Backstage privately ahead of time I think they they saw each other backstage. Yeah so I think they I think they kind of broke the ice a little bit and and I don't I don't I don't think they went over the Promo. Ah Luxembourg's cats do now going to other match in Leslie. How how two guys two women to anybody's can spend twenty or thirty minutes going over a five minute match beyond me this? It defies mathematics and logic but nonetheless. I'm sure that that building was not a huge arena. Notre Center there in Dayton Dayton Ohio And I'm sure that they always show that during the day. I don't know how they could have not seen each during the day unless they decided to come late and but not been on on a live TV day knowing what piece of business are going to be talking it because you can be sure to ask that both. Those guys knew long before they got the Ohio. What were they? Were going to do Monday night. That isn't what they're going to say. Or how other out was going to go. But they knew basically what they were going to do in structure. Let's talk a little bit about You know when when you put together a segment like this. It's a big segment on the show. How how hard and fast are you on commercial breaks? I know that there are soft breaks. His heart breaks in hard outs and just from a production standpoint. Is Anybody going to be able to say we gotta get breadth to hurry up or do you just have commercials ready to go and whenever the segments over the segments over. Yes ladder you. You don't you don't WanNa you don't want to manipulate our views. The creative on a moment like that. This is created that you can't reproduce this can't replicate Israel and Israel and it can't be done again just like tonight goes tonight's the first time that that these two guys have been back in the rain together looking at is that close. I mean there. Sean was a super kick away kicking retina. Heads because it was close quarters so that was the mystique the mystery of it That deal but They were they they. Ah Nobody knew what they're going to say they didn't go the ring. Go over from almost trying to tell people it wasn't what you walk through it are. Here's your here's your script go back and you're reading it for Mike level. I don't remember it being a script and this deal might be wrong. Shit folks but I never sawant and I and I've sat ringside. I didn't see any Any rehearsals on this matter. So we use a unique deal man. This is is a very unique day wasn't a typical pro wrestling promo but people are going to judge that way because they don't know better talk to me a little bit about the rest of the crew you know we've talked about Brett and Sean our issues and and and how that's going to be resolved sort of in the ring But what about everybody else specifically golic triple h who was once upon a time the quote unquote little buddy of Shawn Michaels and now force twenty ten things news of changed quite a bit aaa now behind the scenes in a big way for the company. was anybody nervous or was it different. What was anything different about this? TV Day where breakfast back or is it pretty much business as usual very much Venice's usual and that's the way it should have been. I think everybody wants to be that way but tribulations loyalties as we can see evidence. Today are always wanting to lean toward Sean. They're legitimately good friends it's not about being tagged partners or the Dax all that shit. That's US fiction. They're legitimately it good friends and in the wrestling business as a dream would say there. Ain't you can count got any gosh told me when I got into Venison Gal wrestling kid taking name five great friends a one hand. You'll be very fortunate by great great wrestling France and here. I am forty something years later and I can say that's pretty damned accurate because the the business breeds mistrust and conning in the work and so easy caught up in that bullshit so the ones that ride the storms out in in the highways and rough waters. That don't do that in a stand by your got your back. There are few and far between so Schon and hunter had that con relationship.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Busted Open
"No okay required. I enjoyed the fact that The new day was was able to not only captivate everybody last night and and get. You really didn't get a win. You know being that you know the undisputed Eric came out and of course ruined that But biggie is one of those guys that you know they. They mentioned about how he would be a great single guy. A great singles singles wrestler creating Canada Array F- if you will between him in the new day guys and I I thought that was kind of interesting because nobody talks about somethin' unless it's something that they're going to talk about on the show in the future and I tell my wife all the time like I see a commercial at our trailer and if it if it relates to wrestling. There's a reason that the Debbie Debbie shows they not gonNA put anything on the program does not have any relevancy Z.. Later on and but it was cool that the roderick strong He looked like he had heard something. Something bad about him Last night he was out there slang in banking and I think that The whole talk about Adam Adam Cole. Shining everybody else being like the backup. Singers Counter didn't go well with Roger Strong because he was whipping their ass. Yes yes I was like man. Look at Roger. Rodney Cook is not playing and It was cool though. You see the the the undisputed error come out there. With some some fire and brimstone because you won't pay per view to look like they can compete and prior weeks. I'M A I was excited about it but I didn't think that they would have a a chance now. I actually think that After last night that undisputed heir may have a chance. I just love the idea of a faction you and I grew up in wrestling wrestling watching the factions whether it is the the free birds whether it's devastation corporation with Skandar Akbar you know. The list goes on and on of factions. Those those things matter in wrestling bring back man bring it back just just given the history lesson in bringing it forward but I know one thing to see Roderick strong out there. You're right. He is taking can another step and that match between him and Roderick strong and a J styles. I'm not sure who's going to bump and feed in that match but I just know it's going to be held at match. I don't know who's going to take pinfall. Let's go should be a lot of fun survivor. Series Yeah it should be and AJ is is AJ. He you know we talked about guys Teflon. We'll talk about guys that have the fool to box Aj's thousands got the full toolbox. Man I mean they didn't portray that when and he ran into brock. I wish they would have done more. When when he he and Brock touched? But you know I can't go back and rewrite it Norwood they probably listen to me anyway. but I'm on this program and I'm forcing them to listen because Don't think for one second that they're not listening and area. The COMP- country company is not listening because Busted open open is slowly becoming the standard in pro wrestling outside of the televised shows. Like you so you can mention raw smackdown A. E. W. T. New Japan impact our age. MSW and what's the one that We get flack for not mentioning like we don't mention That Yesterday on the show David I was talking about. The guys has Brian that you know 'cause in you don't ever power well. We mentioned power but it was one of the other shows. We're not gonNA mention it because 'cause we don't even remember it so anyway moving right along sucking to suck we. I won't after today. It's a suck it Saturday. I don't I don't disagree Gabby. I'm on your side. But how move sir. Her Her let's go back to the phone lines. Say a phone lines and stop this. Yes that's what we do here as we go to St Louis J Jay on busted open right here on Sirius. XM fight nation. Hello Jay Hello guys. Good morning how are you all. We're well thank you so you guys were talking before about smackdown last night In the Roy made me want to call it. What you guys talking about? Chad Gable. As I like to call an EH shortage e The I mean I appreciate that You Know Chad is making the most of his time with with what they're giving him But personally I think that Chad deserves to be Chad Gable. and where the gear he was wearing and that looks like he used to be in space jam. Right that's why we heard the joke there from Corey graves yesterday making that. I think that joke about his weight when he was wearing. It's pretty funny. Yeah maybe the writers you know things that this this gimmick appealing to children and everything But I guess people like myself. Who are you know in our late Twenties and early thirties? We know who are more you know wrestling than sports. Entertainment I always you know I've always been a fan shaped gable with American out the I do appreciate him in Mustafa Ali pick that win For me the the spend down last night It's Matt down on Fox started up to such a huge. You know. Start off with a bang with that show on Fox and everything but I ever since the draft other than that. NFC invasion show where the smackdown roster was stuck in Saudi Arabia The shows are just kind of been other lackluster or average. They haven't been as good as that I show in the NFC invasion show I wanted your guy's thoughts on that and Um you know for being on Fox. Why shows haven't been you know like for me? The two best that shows that the week Air On national television are Wednesdays. You know raw and smackdown feel you know even other the the as show it was for the company for lots of fans. The two best shows are annex t and W and Ron smackdown play second fiddle. Just want to get your thoughts. Thank you Jay. Go ahead hedmark. No I the whole point was I think that Chad Gable is an Olympian I and a dominant wrestler second He's being trivialised. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six or on-demand with the SIRIUSXM APP in his wwe. Hall of Famer. Dan Dudley he joins US here on. Busted Open Dion. It is mark and Jonathan. Thanks so much for your time. Thank you show absolutely. We just WANNA get your overall thoughts about where we are as far as the state of wrestling mark and I have been talking about just the ebb and flow of how things are going. How close do you think wrestling is to the territory days as far as so many different companies being able to flourish? I think we're missing things like that. where their work different territories and we're guys were able to learn their craft You can bet it by the time they got to the WWE and you know crying up. All the promotions can happen everything thank you know. It's kind of hard now to to learn and to go to different territories to be able to prosper In their crap. But you know that's why I always always tell even my teams in smaller that they need to say to you that they can stay on the indy circuit as long as you can scrap. Walls also picked up here before coming up and trying to make it to the big Dan. Because you lied to get that out of your system so by the time you come up. You're ready to go Stephen I I've always been a proponent of tag wrestling Seeing a tag team worked together other and do a Finnish together. What why is it that now? The tags are going away from working together. Seemed like the revival revival is the only team this kind of looking at it like if we do it together. We'll win because we're Bible is not a team that they just put together. Revival was actually a act and nowadays. You've got guys be put together. Because sometimes they don't know what to do with them or in doing like they used to be back in the day in some aspects where they go into the wall and a lot of times they don't because he died on Gel woman. I work together together. I E E W and you know we learn how to craft and learn how the world to gather so by the time we were able able to get through the wwe. We were illegit Tattoo. Not only that. Who wanted to be the? That's the different a lot of these guys. Don't WANNA compact. But they're put together. I think if he lets some of the guys that want to be taxing and let them flourish and lethal ones that the state will be single divine. We talked about the most dominant basketball team of all time are the most in the most dominant stop it. The most dominant bureau which you already say that as Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen absolutely so you really you really in your heart of heart. Things that Michael and Scotty could be Kobe Shack. Well you know what it's hard to say that and I tell you what because it's because it's not true that's why it's hard disk okay. But that's your opinion and lifted. I've had had all compete with you. Before and now you're bringing to the forefront of media a- you and I are going to be like sack in week in What's his name that it always get insurance? Barkley Charles Barkley. So Jason takes every generation get stronger and stronger tell. Let me put it this way you had to Hogan and Andrea. You know that did what they did. And it was extremely successful. Then you move to the Brenton Sean. Our which take stronger and thicker and then of course the which is what we were they of course we were bigger than hip sing far. Beyond what the Hogan Andre every Would you not taking anything away from them. Now you go today and again Gary Nepad even more so I think that's okay well. Evolution is definitely really something that plays a big part in sports and and in pro wrestling. We wanted to compare. Where do you see? UN BUBBA in Mount Rushmore rush more wrestling duos. I think we're right up there so I'm not GonNa sit here and say that we would not want because he's always want a quick The ones that were the number one the one that came before the road warriors the rock and Roll Express. Big night sweats telling on the list goes on and on you know the coal me..
"brenton sean" Discussed on Gaming and BS RPG Podcast
"He continues. I asked you if she thought to. My pep talk fixed the problem. No but it's better we're learning in some are just slower than others to answer D. and go Jo's question about whether this is a rising problem I don't think so instead teams. These are just people with very little experience who are learning how to get along in the complex world of humor interaction in emotion when they make it to our table on us more mature Gamers to model decency agency and thoughtfulness while also encouraging creativity within limits. They won't have it all figured out anytime soon. We'll have to be patient also willing to teach incorrect shoot. I still need to be taught in corrected sometimes. Maybe I'll eventually get their keep on the awesome podcasting trevor. Well Trevor I can tell you know Joe. Being a teacher is pretty He's pretty savvy and a good doodo around by love. Your thoughts man. I think I am I have to say to her. I am duly impressed. That you're told real daughter Judah you when she had this discussion and you guys went back and forth. That's pretty fricking cool. Man That's a kind of a grownup type of thing to the kids about. So that's impressive. Good job man. This that's really neat. Probably got an introduction to an f-bomb or two very good. Probably Yeah Sean Sean Penza Danza. Little blue every once in a while Sean likes to work. That's all me. Yeah mostly you try that any thought. So that when Sean no I'm I'm I'm impressed that there's hope there's hope with kids like Judah there's hope for the future that's to say there we go all right. We got an accident Kodjo I think he calls in to clarify some things. I'll very queen might add questions. I'm pretty sure we screwed something up. Brenton Sean John Has Cogil. Hey thank you guys for taking my previous voicemail about my son's birthday game and create an episode around it he got a kick out of it And you guys give us about our specific situation a few more details. 'cause another questions that came up during the episode they just wanted to follow up first off. We were playing old school. Essentials which is given Norman's re edited version of the X T N D so it was older school flavor although we were using the advanced edition rule optional rule that he had created as part of as we think kickstarter so kids were. We're basically you know choosing a race and class combination. I let them pick what they wanted to be ahead of time. But I made the pre based on their requests that they have funneled through my son and again. Yeah it was his birthday party. It was his idea to old school. Essentials not mine. He's very interested in older forms of the game. He even wanted to do defending our class. Instead of the optional. Ace ending our class route. And so you know that was cool but again some of the kids thought that was dumb and so but then again a lot of it all say that about defending our class too so And then also why the fell off and say what is a couple two or three kids that really were the main focus of the issues. Most they were trying to play. You know in a way that was cooperative and and You know move the story along one kid just lying to leave the party No matter what I try to to do or discourage them through various threats that he kept running into and barely survived yet. He kept wanting to leave the party and then his character died. He's the one who wanted to basically reboot things and start over his character. And I won't do it again. I won't leave the party again and I said No. Sorry at this point too late Now the kid kept wanting to pronounce ring visibility. Sneak away from the party. Do his own thing. And the end result is We didn't even get halfway through the story that I had crafted which is fine. I don't WanNa put him on railroad but at the same time I was hoping we get further into the story and there was a lot of other kids sitting around as I I had to manage these two or three kids who are fairly disruptive with their gain choices plus. We're playing a gaming store and there's lots of other distractions Russians. They were off wandering away looking at magic cards when it was their. Turn all kinds of Shenanigans so oh though my son still had a good time he you think next time he won't invite these handful boys. That didn't seem into it. We'll see I'll goes anyways. Thanks again take it easy bye. Yeah you know coach. I gotta say that actually My Son has last time for his last birthday party when Iran deal I said. Hey we're so and so goes. Yeah he's I don't think he likes gaming as much as I do. which was ejei being very blatantly saying yeah kids trouble? You're not gonNA focus. That's that's a good move. Yeah interesting I think the because it was Your son's birthday game I think it was. It's one of those things. Where did the birthday boy? I have a good time. Yes that's awesome. It's a shame that other people being difficult as you described there but cool. I'm glad that whether you and your son got a kick what we did. And it sounds like we did and Sailing to horribly stupid. So that's good Sean. Got Anything else that we're ready to move on man that's it. Thanks for calling in co Joe and Clean Anatomy. Let's get onto the me too epic talk all right. Bret I get a twofer man. You ready for. I'm ready so couple of things I wanted to talk about. Last time we derail. Though I I WanNa talk about realises topic about book size and format and I figure would go well with some of the shopping we did and just looking around at a gaming convention can what's out there but I also WanNa talk about kind of blow by blow. Would you do with the con- it's not our stick really aiming we've tried that before. Kind of bores shit out of people. But a thought. Sean what what if we could talk about like of the sessions we ran where we played in as well. Let's talk about the stuff we ran. Let's talk about Iran here. Did you have a best versus a worst I did you have one game that you man when just did not work as well for me because I did. I ran three and I did have one. He did. Okay I did so we should. It's we should probably start if we're going to talk about this And put a disclaimer. That it's not it's not the group group it's not the player. Oh no no no but there's GonNa be some people that are listening. I was in that game. And you know bad or not very good and this is all about alerting and this is when so. Thank you show disclaimer. This is not worse is probably. I didn't have a better term for it here. But it's kind of like what one you know you can learn from the stuff that worked and he can learn from stuff like man. I had expectation Shawn. Maybe had expectation at the table. That something just didn't go quite right. I've had games where I walk away down. That sucked act me. And I don't feel like it did. It did very well look at the players all it was awesome. They're all revved up man. How the Hell did you okay? Cool yet must've done something right so I'm trying to figure out DOC. I guess let's do this. Did you have a game that you ran. That was just like it. Hit all the right strides for you and the players and you felt fulfilled as they did. I had one. That was better than the others. Okay which was that. PROBAB- That were similar. I would say because they're different sided. Yeah they were all different. Had different experiences. This this past ask convention. Will you know what let me do this. So Sean ran three different types of games. Three different rule systems of completely completely really different in Iran. Same same insofar as they're all defy in the avalon setting so I'll tell you what. Let me go first because I think he just you know. Just don't forget. Forget about me over here. I won't I won't so the two that went like a hit all the right buttons for me and my players the Thursday and Friday when Went went really well. Everyone had a good time of the rare investigative focus they really kind of brought the avalon brand as they say right had all the right pieces parts were people hacking up. Love fish eggs. There was crazy bug crawling madness and weird magic actually got great pointers from my my players Jim Brickman Games. And some the other folks that Jim through the good stuff I mean anyway got really good. Hey that was fun. It'll be even better is bubble by very helpful and I think one of the things I learned from those that the the Priyanka had worked really really well. They fit the investigative vibe and the whole looking into stuff building. A the as I do when I run these games that can build a neighborhood with a crew. GimMe Name of a blacksmith. What's the name local tavern who runs a tavern? How attitude too? They have sourcing the table like that. I I am finding works really really well. The players love it even some of the players who may be more shy like Oh God. I'm terrible at this. That's okay anybody else. have an idea you know and just is getting the people at the table to do that. I think is really helpful. And it kind of breaks the ice. Everybody's got some investment in it and I like that. I think it's a really good way to go. It's something that I think I can use an I. I do more of even now in my home game where I source the table for stuff. I need the name of a university. I need the name. What's the name of the professor who taught you that? Oh it's Hodgkin's yes Hodgkin's is the guy. Okay so I I started doing even more that the quote unquote worst game game was my Saturday one and that was because that was a monster hunt game do monster hunting within the avalon setting but I did not have love enough investigation in it it was. I felt far too straightforward. The players did a great job. They grabbed it. They found it they and went right after right after the critter figured it out there. A couple turns twists. But I just didn't have any kind of POW right right there. Hey Man I really really shocked the other two sessions and it took me part of the day to like what the Hell what the hell what what what did I like it was is too simple. I think I only had like a one to four one two five timeslot and they just blew through it. I'm like man I don't have enough meat here. It's too simple. This is part of a thing I need to add more to it and I think if it was just a three hour game or our to our game I think it would have been fine but a pure monster hunt without enough and not even red herrings but I found I needed. We built the neighborhood. Uh We got some cool stuff together but things went there. Were no hiccups. Right then was all we took a wrong turn. All this was unexpected crap here we are. Everything unfolded pretty much as everyone expected. And sometimes that's fun but I wanted to.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Gaming and BS RPG Podcast
"Inappropriately clad ladies in combat which why would you wear that will fight right that just makes it's no sense the the audience hasn't changed but blue who was who they thought was playing a game the perceived audience yes every people's perception of who's playing has been slapped as suggests. Oh wow this is open. Your goddamn is look who's playing. They thought a bunch of thirteen fourteen year old brenton johns were playing the game all all the time back in those days and therefore being full of hormones and her you know it just it it was it was also a style though i mean you look frank presente nearly conan books sure and some of the stuff that style of art boris vallejo. I mean big dramatic poses of very muscular people and wonderful. You know it's an ass it was you know just what they did. Yeah that was fantasy the art and some of that comes from renaissance artist artistry like voluptuous women. I don't know clothing. That's hanging in the louvre. It's different than that are it and then we take that and put it in a role playing book and it's like well again. It's the audience thing we talked about right and when when people want when people start to wake up and realize hey there's lots of men women and lots the different people have lots of different ages and approaches to life and viewpoints and so forth i enjoy this stuff and and we should we we should also stipulate there are women that do appreciate that art oh right there as a nurse women that don't and so and and men the do men the don't exactly bisexual people that do all that stuff yet you find you find. You cannot broad-brush paint anything. No you can't now. I agree but you can look at art now which i think some of the better ones are doing and they say hey you know what we can draw beautiful people or what we think is beautiful right and do it is tasteful as possible possible yes because you never know who might be a big fan of my work or this game right right or they can identify with exactly exactly this little bit. You know when you when you start putting african american women on dont'a classics stuff you know t t shirts. I can't remember the name the classic character that doug cope extra. She got the big afro puffs thing gone and she's just a bad ass yeah. I don't know they're they're. They're there's there's a name is there's a bunch of named for yeah i do but when you start having that type of representation out there that's really cool because there's more than and just brenton sean game right you know and that's really really neat my my youngest daughter. Alana likes looking at she loves arch loves drawing and so on and she'll page through the books and she's looking for something that reminds her of her friends. You know so it's it's it's interesting when you look at the styles and so forth and i know some pe- i have heard some people bitch about that like oh. That's political correctness or whatever and i'm like doc why do you i mean it's still great art. I mean look at it is really kick ass but instead of some dude saving this poor naked woman from serpent and it is two dudes of female warrior and you know the hassling warrior and they're all fighting the <unk> the serpent evil wizard together i why why do we have to save any naked anything. Why why why is that have to be part of it. That doesn't have to be there if you're going to do that and that your home game and that's what you pig on aren't do do your uber you but you know i mean from an art. Perspective in the books doesn't need to be there so we're getting at. Is that that over time. There's been a conscious effort to be diverse in the art. That is a sign to r._p._g. Products in order to ensure that people identify with it therefore they will buy it. They will feel welcome blah. I think that's a good thing then yeah. Oh absolutely i don't there's why would well. I'm i'm sure there's others that would say it's a bad thing when somebody doesn't like it and that's fine. Whatever how'd you get here to get into a pissing match about all that stuff but yeah i was gonna say. Let's step away from that for a second year. Do you have a favorite fantasy artist fantasy artist specific legit. Let's just r._p._g. Artist r._p._g. Furnace if you were going to say hey what my favorite and sometimes to me it comes down to like a picture like very that photo or that painting or that thing wing was so cool when i think really cool r._p._g. Rat wanted to grow up and be that person in that art now. You know it is a very tough thing for me to say because there's a lot and i i i have a thing so like there are the typical big four guys that were at least our in the kind of their yeah the big art scene it was we already mentioned him elmore caldwell easily parkinson okay amongst others i that we obviously more name than just those four but at when i was growing up those kind of key i would see there i could. I could identify edify their artwork which is unusual for me. You stick a rembrandt in front of me abc sure yeah but i can tell you that was willingham bowl came from rugby ah bs art. I could tell you this stuff or lotus yep. That's diesels art forty. I know that jeff eat this geoff diehl whom i can tell you i've been to the lou very nice feel cultured but yeah doug kovacs doug kovacs artwork or wayne reynolds and reynolds houser whatever the list goes on but so the the type of work that i like i like all those guys is work. I was always partial to parkinson because i think the the specifically elmore is very colorful very very bright. Colors reds greens greens borough bust parkinson's are to me i mean they even mentioned this like he's more subdued shit brown or something like no he's. He's he's more subdued right right well. They said this in this documentary about his palette so it's more subdued and to me it it. The realism realism to me. Parkinson is hits home more with me through that where you know. Larry's work is great. Call all houses great and even some call stuff. I liked to <hes> the minds of blood stone were awesome because of the reflection the chrome look from that's what would it. That's what gets me crazy is when somebody can paint something and make it look like a metal or you know that it looks like a mere. No no that is like looks like aamir it. It looks like somebody took pope pasted it in their always liked <hes> elmore lines. They are very good lines. Good line perspective compared to guy. He's gets good lamarcus in has a he has a fuzzier feel to it. They're not as crisp where elmore stuff is very clean from to my eyes so now having having said that there are other artists <hes> that i don't think people know about that. I think really i'll give you an example so one of the ones i'm talking about is veronica v jones. Nobody are i would be blown away if anybody listen to. This actually knows who that is because i didn't know this. I didn't know her name. I knew it was a female. I didn't ornate had to look it up piece. She did all the art to the spycraft spycraft r._p._g. Oh my god that's good so all the silver gray scale art of all the original spycraft by now crafty games originally was by a._g. There every book that was sharp man was spycraft foods in green and then it would be the agent guy in black and white black and gray actually and then every single book after that she did on the cover and that like if you grabbed if you walked into a role playing game store and you saw aw book you'd be like that spycraft and if you saw supplement is a spycraft because there was no question on the brand and the art and the look in the field with consistent with every book that they put out there was never a full color collar. No you saw those. If you saw the book you didn't see the title you knew what it belonged to yes every time and stuff and i liked what she didn't in how she did it when they actually went to spycraft two point. Oh i was disappointed with the art route that they went okay just really aggravated me. I think one of the reasons they went throughout they did because they started emphasizing a card game. Okay just what did you do that right and literally. It really turned me off because i'm i respect comics and i respect art but my preference. This is more of a realistic kind of thing like i if somebody put a game and the theme was a comic book art type style l. <hes> ambiguous too because there are some really good comic book artists like miller that capture some really good stuff like the dark knight grady. There's a lot there's a lot of good ones out. There's silvester was good back in the day and i guess what i'm referring to is more looney tunes. Oh okay right to prime colors. Oh yeah okay yeah. You know tune yeah. If you're playing great it's matic but i i don't like well. Wait we'll chemo with exalted. They had a what me like an anime field not my style. I'm not a big anime guy. No i looked at it went. Oh and i start reading. I was kind of on the fence for the system anyway but then the art turn me off because i'm like i don't this doesn't feel to me. Now me whatever i don't know if people i love that shit shaw yeah. That's i mean it's obviously big is a massive following my style also i. I'm gonna say one of the best are kind of things that really was like. I wanna play that game original top secret really if you look at the box passport different monetary different different different passports now. I think there's a nine millimeter or is the twenty two beretta. I don't know there's a gun on there. There's the different currencies like there's the top secret like folder. I think there's a folder but it's top secret stamped in the stencil like that's that's espionage man. That's world traveler james bond shit. I wanna do that plays euchre man yeah okay but it's an i think that's a photograph. Actually right is that is in the woman on it. Showing leg was geared doug ex daughter her apparently is there a woman showing. I thought so yeah pretty sure. I didn't know it can't that didn't even notice understanding knows. That's funny yeah anyway. <hes> i think some of the things that got me was the first role playing game product. I've ever bought was the red box and l. No dre red.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Reality TV RHAP-ups: Reality TV Podcasts
"I did think Nikki and I share kinda getting a little bit. They kept saying hiccup showing Nikki. Go a lot of pressure a lot of pressure and so my thought is they were going to get passed that test but then when they finished I went oh there okay there's going to be fine and so was thrown off a little bit and Lorna Joann getting that we can do it we can do we can do it kind of kind of ad which often leads to nothing so I was shocked because I felt like there were hints but half the time those hints are just fake and they're just fake out so it was a little surprising what happened yeah. It was a real it was real fifty fifty. They did a good job editing that down to the point where I really wasn't sure who is going to come out on top and of course I was rooting nothing. Nikki Naish are fun that we got to see a lot of fun moments of them singing thing and like chest bumping and stuff early on ed which also might have been a hit to where they were heading but I enjoyed them on the race so I hate to lose them so quickly selfishly for team Dan. I'm feeling really good about Lauren Joann 'cause I was like I cannot lose the first two teams last year. I lost the first three teams. I'm pretty sure so we gotTA. We gotta stop this right now. This has gotta end so Lauren my second pick and I appreciate the way that they rallied though which I think means that even though they finished eighth I'm not thinking that they're doomed aimed. I feel like they just had a bad leg. This might help they might be able to recover well. There's always that team that you look at at first glance and you think I don't think they're going to do well or they're at least in the second tier of teams and then they end up surprising you in going extremely extremely far like I think the sort of Frankie and amy team or even the Brenton Sean where it's like. Oh Wow they're still in it and they're still doing okay and in fact eventually they do better than okay. I mean orange land could definitely be that team. TRICIA and amy are also Orlando Getting E. You could tell it was no coincidence that when they finish they finished where they did and you I mean that's also Anthony James Patricia and amy also we're talking about how they wanted to be front of the pack and you know I just I I get a good feeling about them too and that's where I think we're going to see some surprises not that Oh seren Sam. We're going next week or something crazy but I do think we're going to see some of these teams. That might be starting out like your Anthony James Research Amy your five six seven. Those teams are going to be okay and in a span of two legs. We've seen a team jumped from ninth place to third place from seventh place to first place for fourth place down to eighth place. I think there's going to be a lot of mixing and jumping around in places and I think that's what makes it exciting season. The idea that anybody could win a leg anybody could get eliminated. I think that's really going to make it a lot of fun and very suspenseful in the legs to come yeah and then the final thing they had to do of course this again. They didn't get to go to the pit stop. They had to go to the pitstop ride up the mountain and then run a really long way across snow which didn't end up leading to a foot race..
"brenton sean" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard
"And he had some damn big legs. But I don't know. I just think it was maybe I wanna look different difference. Good. Sometimes that to me is just different weird. What do you think the nation of domination here, I think this version of the nation's probably my favorite? Well, this is the beginning of the nation. Man. When we kind of started to grow it, and yet de LA Brown, they're young up and comer that no one ever thought would kind of break out the way the de LA did he was just a bit part player that could take bumps. Dealer was dressed. Like he's going to McDowell's to define the prints on coming to America right there. Hey, what do you make the, the dudes at the top of the ramp? Who those guys we have spent much time talking about that bunch that just couple extras just couple extras. It couldn't take bumps of can't take bumps day way from the rain. There you go. I got you. Okay. Got you bump taking nations. And then you got Saddam bump taking nations, the D low was part of the bump taking nation rest of them guys. Eight just nation followers. The can't take no bump. I guess we should mention that this show. We're covering. For more more than one reason, they, let's say, not just what happened in front of the camera, but what was going on backstage, where one day removed from the king of the ring, which is covered that on grill, and JR with Jim Ross? If you'd like to hear about king of the ring nineteen Ninety-seven, but this is the very next day. And this is the day where in that, that afternoon, those a little bit of a skirmish backstage, that got everybody in the business talking, you've told the story a little bit before and we, we certainly have recaps from books and newsletters. But when you realize, hey, this is the show that we're going to be covering this week, did you mainly remember all this is one Brenton Sean had the hair pulling quiet in the back. Well, not only that. Funniest part about it was I had just been in Hartford recently, and walk through this building went in each of the rooms where everything took place in kind of relived, some of those moments of Sean coming in with handfuls of hair, and the commotion and all the hilarity that ensued that day, we're going to get into that. But I do wanna mention some of the news notes that were going around at the time including Leif, Cassidy giving his notice to the WWF, but you guys reminded him. Hey man, you can't give notice just yet. You're, you're in the middle of a contract, and we can really over. But allegedly he was doing this as maybe play to renegotiate that sort of Jim Ross theory. Of course, we know that Al snow's gonna wind up jumping ship going as he w creating the, the head persona. And then he's off to the races. What was it about house snow that wasn't connecting here with the world wrestling federation in nineteen Ninety-seven, Jim Ross, Jim down on him? Jim wasn't a big fan. No Jim was too big of a fan of that. And that will work in your detriment sometimes whenever you're looking for someone and it will now I came in as avatar, it was every time that you would look for anybody to do anything, there would be this noise would happen, people look around like you just ran over a mouse. But it was JR say, avatar avatar to where bench just got sick of hearing the name avatar now snow. Did you roll to the corner right? There you damn right? Have you ever see those like? I don't know what that was. But I've never seen it before for crash. That was wild. That was a defensive forward shoulder roll. They're gone. Crushed shit. Some good shit with the tea set wrestle school Conrad. Yeah. But he's a giant like you, don't you'll see forward roles to make tag from giants very often. But we saw in there, and I started to say maybe says he's trying to escape on it, but I guess he's trying to escape animal anyway..
"brenton sean" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"And I don't know the Paul bear forgetting dig him that out, George shows he was a real mortician. Use an air force veteran United States Air Force, p was not always three hundred pounds. He did some wrestling. He did some managing, you know, news, a regular on the weekly shows there in the in mobile and then all territory. He worked a lot in Dallas for Fritz von Eric's. He worked for my friend, dentist rent for some sometimes and Dennis's company as well just a really good dude, man. Lee is great historian dearly, loved the business in getting to be that play that mortician, what you really was. It was undertaken was a match made in heaven. It really was. He was just a super guide. And I'm remember, we I paid for my budget. I didn't pay for you know what I mean out of my budget for that gas. Drik surgery to help you lose weight because he's going to, you know, was going to be a long life, and we think we extended his life, you know, but not long enough, obviously left us, too early. But we give we do the, the surgery latte band thing, wherever the hell it was. I don't remember executive name the procedure of it to help him lose some weight it kinda resurrect his career little bit because he got. So heavy is he was just as health is just going to hail? Distant. Minnesota sweetheart of a got the Conrad really good guy credit in the business without a doubt. One of the best, and I hope we get to talk about him long form some time if you guys are into it, we'll try to make it happen. Let's talk about the may nineteenth raw, you know, we, we briefly talked about the, you know, the whole sunny days promo, and that really sort of takes over the show, and it becomes what everybody is talking about did, did you think that? It's weird because I don't think anybody knew how this would shake out, obviously, nobody could have predicted Montreal. But with Brett and him being injured. Did you think any part of you think because the original plan for, if I have this correct was that Brenton Sean, we're going to do something that king of the ring, and then when Brett's injured that changes and so they pivot and we're going to talk about what they did, did you think at all that may be Brett? I don't know what sandbag and maybe he could go, but didn't want to and thought maybe now's not the time or I don't want to go in there against a guy don't really trust and not be my best. I'm not saying that he was faking the injury. But maybe somebody else he would've tried to power through. But because it showing he doesn't want anybody saying, oh, Brent gave me a bad match or whatever. No, I think that I think that Britain would not have taken that route, if he was a hundred percent healthy because he was very mentally, tough very mentally tough. And he would not have backed away from the challenge, and it was a challenge for Brit to deal with Sean and Shawn deliberate. And for them to coexist professionals. It was challenging everybody knows those challenging we know they had fight. So we know that they had the thing in Montreal etcetera etcetera. But they they, they had a legitimate rivalry. They, they pair at the end of the day. Just stop despised each other. So, but I never thought Brett would have walked away and upset the, the, the company in the plans the company to draw money which everybody in his locker room shared in. I didn't think he was that kind of guy and I still don't think he's that kind of guy. So again, I don't believe in the Bret Hart conspiracy that he plotted to sabotage the angle. Just I can't I'm not going to buy that one. Let's keep it moving here. And you do a sit down in this next episode where you're sitting down with mankind, and you're talking about him growing up, and the whole play of worms. Is this done the same way with gold dust? And why was the decision made to say, hey, you know what these gold dust ones, went well, let's do it now for Foley. Why was he the right guy to go to next?.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Gaming and BS RPG Podcast
"It sucks that, that, that, that isn't always the case in every game store, but there are gaming spaces out there that are welcoming to women. And I wish everyone luck in finding that space in their region. Keep up the b s Jesse awesome. Thank you, Jesse. That's cool. TNT hobbies in key, Largo, Florida and moxie games in Columbus, Georgia if I'm in either of those places Jesse on check in those out 'cause goo places. I mean that's a place ago. You drop drop some cash because those, those folks need to be in business. That's just awesome Largo. Like that's the place. I would wanna go like, right. What is like to -sconsin is man, we should be there like every winter. Holy, it's like on the keys, right? It's I've never been it's I've never been to Florida. I should probably go at some point. Yeah. It's part. Of the Florida Keys, man. They got a game store key Largo. Yeah. That would be win win. If we were still riding bikes. That'd be like a destination man. Oh, totally. So we're just gonna have to buy back convertible, and go, that's true. Like convertible Cadillac or some shit. Yeah. Like a great big ass nineteen seventy-one lake just trunk like the canary yellow are, you know, we're just a loud ass. Yeah. Oh, god. That'd be fun. Yeah. That'd be fun anyway. Well enough of that vacation talk. Thanks, jesse. All right. Who we got here? This is Carl Davis. I mean said to go to my first game con- after many years of gen con look forward to local convention, that's large, but not too large. I love to run a couple of vents under the banner as have been a fan of the show for quite some time, and even use your advice. Play testing these adventures home. My. He's got a couple of years, talking about zombie, black Friday. This is savage worlds. Game replay ordinary shoppers in one of the largest Muslim countries somewhere, the mall of America was ambi- outbreak happens. This is my wife nightmare. Do you know? Yeah. This is this is like, much a lot of stuff. Anyway. This venture designed to be light hearted like Shaun of the dead can the characters escape the mall before being eaten do they try and save the toy. That's they stood line for hours to. That's awesome. That sounds fantastic. Next up. He's got the helix nebula situation, another shadow worlds game where you play robotic support crew and on a generation ship your activated after collision with an unknown force to support the crew only problem is there isn't a crew wake. There isn't a cure, waking up and warning messages about whole breaches in Leisa failures, assault, your ears, Uni other robots need to discover what happened and save the crew. That's awesome playing. He continues also send some suggestions online gaming, many episodes ago when they were well received. I appreciate that. I decided to share another idea to GM's arsenal when gaming online, a fun thing to do is create a landing page that you show before the game starts on roll twenty just create a map like normal, I add trophies pictures or tokens to represent previous adventures, too. Previous adventures to the page. Remind everyone of the previous glory. Sometimes it's an image of their home base, which I then filled with, I can't representing triumphs allow the players to manipulate the map so they can add their own drawings, and sings great show is always curled, Avis. You'll actually when I run streets of Avalon using role twenty when I run that with Chris, Kevin Andy and Tom, I just have images of what's going on, like love a picture of a lamp lighter bus street scene, plus plus plus just to you. So when you're glancing at it is evocative of the setting and. Possible use of this outside of outside. So I, I got I went to the store because my kids were doing a bunch of science projects, as kids are wants to do in grade school mill school, and they had these wonderful trifling science boards where you put up your little things to it. I bought one of those and Philip full of evocative images in clues and so forth. The first time I ran in Avalon game from my home crew, I put up behind me. They want, what's that. What's I said, this is all indicative of the setting. What was there? I did actually pick certain images that new would actually happen. So it looks like this. Oh, and then people started pay attention, the pictures the, the, the images like any good art in RPG's helps to vote that were full feeling and having that splashed up behind me or next to me on a basically a cork board was really cool. And that's one of the things in my buddy ALPHA's basement, we had he is a short throw projector that throws onto a white board that sits off to my left. So I will through my. The my tablet or my I'm act or she made my MAC, book air all put different images and stuff up just to help kinda do similar type of thing. So it's static images. Can be very vacuum in forever for game. So it's damn good idea. Carl good stuff. L and be great issue at the con was game sound awesome. Dude. Yeah. Mad house v comments about the streets. Avalon Kickstarter Brent. Oh. Looks like my other comment. Disappeared weird posted something disappeared way, too lazy to rewrite it. So irio just wanted to add, thanks for the quick turnaround on streets Avalon, this is the best turnaround. I've seen from a Kickstarter besides the savage worlds, one probably won't ever play because I really don't run indie anymore. But I was thinking of maybe running in Genesis or savage worlds. Instead, if it looks good. Thanks for the promptness though, is really nice to see the sea and the constant updates was really nice. Very cool. Matt. I'll tell you man. I have run it in groups of run it in world, the darkness abuse that system, I have used basic roleplaying, Oz, Rick, there's no reason you couldn't use Genesis or savage worlds ending like that. You could totally do that. And I hope you do. And if you do man, I would. To hear about it and hear what you did how you did it. And if it was a lot of fun, or even at suck. Dick, just didn't quite work like this. And then that that'd be good to hear too. So I can figure out how to make it better in the future. So thank you for this for support Matt. That's really awesome of you. All right. What have we got here, Joe of house tea comets on random encounters episode to James regarding scaling counters or two player play can each player just run to characters. I don't have the experience to truly talk about actual scaling such as a player just have more PC's than if the book calls for four to six players or whatever. There's definitely some downfalls to this such as how complicated character can be in having someone remember all that stuff for two more characters. Joe? That's actually that was one of the first things that hit me kind of some old school advice, even back in the day when it was it was hard to find players because if there were five of us in high school that could play to people couldn't make their only three or only to people. What did you do in a lot of times? We did a couple extra characters. To be eat, one of these just ways to go about it. However, there's other pieces in parts that go into it, and that is in the that's in the hopper. We might throw one out pretty soon to talk about two player play but good piece, Joe because I think it's a thing that sometimes we forget and. If you pick the right characters in DNB like you've got one. You don't wanna breath opinion. You wouldn't to have clear a wizard of. Sorcery a Warlock. Oh in another spell caster in another. All one poor gamer. Trying all that gives at my drive you insane. But taking, you know, a tank and wizard a clear in a thief, something on those lines that could always work out. Well, one that's quinquina easier to play simply because it doesn't have the crunchy bits that of spell casting Similars extra powers, come there. So just thought, but we'll dive into it more later, Sean anything for me before we all know. Very cool next one's user sooner fan writes in about it points. Brenton, Sean sorry. This was so long feel free to edit it in short, if you want I am writing in with some thoughts about hit points. Nick of house Hopkins talked about this subject in with sharing his concerns about the narrative during combat. And how he was handling it in five. None of what I am writing is critical of Nick, just how I look at this subject. This is only the second time I've contacted you emailed, you for episode two hundred to congratulate you guys on that milestone milestone, and how I started at episode number one and worked my way through them. I also told you how I was going to start running again, after a long absence from our PG's I started with basic dean d around nineteen eighty nine at the age of eleven. Yes, I am old. I am most familiar with, I addition, eighty in that is what I am currently running. I realized that everybody interprets rules in their own way in, I addition. And I'm sure in the previous versions previous twenty hit points were never a measure of strictly physical damage. It was meant to represent the physical toll that combat takes on you. If you are fighter with thirty six points in the arc deals for two six points damage per hit on you. You don't necessarily take six to nine blows to your body or wounds from a weapon. It is an Amtrak number that takes into account things like getting exhausted from all the faints blows the armor, parrying blocking a weapon with your shield moving around, etc. Probably none of these things would kill a fighter just wear them down wearing him down could cause him to be slower. Not thinking clearly and leave him open to that final blow that causes him to drop to negative hip points and on death's door. Yeah. That's a very good point. And I think that's a lot of people need to kinda grasp. There is a Tim cask has a commotion the basement whatever but he went through a sword. Fight believe in game of thrones. Or when those shows so many to that end kind of the sect it saying that point where the character dove backwards or flipped over a table. They would have lost hit points for that. That's how they would have seen it. That was the idea. The fight is drastic. Crazy thing your loss of hit points is how your voiding getting killed. It wasn't strictly that. Oh, I have five health left. Right. It was and I think that's. It's interesting to try to look at it like that. But I think to do that it takes focus and dedication to rewire our brains because we through the throughout the hobby last forty plus years. It's your life. It's a red marker the dick down right? Keep on. I am not very familiar with fifth, Ed. So this does nothing for how hard it is kill a PC but nNcholas saying he was having problems with the narrative of combat. Maybe you could get with his group and tell them, not every role that hits them causes a wound that does physical damage like I said before it can cause some exhaustion and clarity of their thoughts and tactics. The final hit to them that drops to zero or lower hit points is the one that made a hit to a vital part of the body and they dropped from the wound. Some quick that popped up in my noggin, high constitution, gives bonus HP's that could represent higher stamina not the ability to take extra cuts or wounds that final blow. Let's say Deger, the neck doesn't care. What your constitution is the fighters bonus. The con- let him fight longer before he opened opened himself up to the final hit that hit his neck and dropped him. Also, maybe describe a physical hit to the fighter when his opponent roles and arbitrary number. Let's say a giant causes a wound or broken bone on an actual role of seventeen or eighteen to twenty and a Kobo only causes a physical wound on a natural twenty this would give the game master chance to describe the combat instead of just saying cobalt hit you take x number of points damage. Each time he hits the fighter with this. You could affect how long character has the rest before gaining a large percentage of his hip points back if he has several if he has several physical wounds. From the opponent rolling high on their tech dice that make it take longer than just a short rest. Regain his hip points.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Gaming and BS RPG Podcast
"Result. Also, I'm a bit saddened to see people limit what they think they can have fun playing one. Poster on my comment said he was never is never played a rogue. And he never will. Because he already knows he wouldn't enjoy it. But in my mind, how do you know, if you have never tried just like I get a bit frustrated with my daughter who only will eat cheese pizza, despite never trying other ingredients get frustrated with players who have such a narrow focus on what funds should look like if you never try any flavor of ice cream. Besides vanilla. You may be missing out on great experiences and never know it. Yeah. That's true. True. True. Try sushi. Ladies and gentlemen, tastes good. I have it all like it. While as long as you try to didn't ask identity, Detroit. Didn't like it. I tried again though because it's been a while. Well, then it may carry on. Brenton Sean talk about sushi. So I am curious about your feelings on players bringing a character concept to the table versus them rolling. What they get an adapting as they go. I've yet to play five year largely because when I try to read the character creation chapter it is largely tailored towards building a character. Concept meta gaming and min maxing due to unlimited choice of race class combinations. No negative modifiers. Freddie race suggestions of a point by or use of a standard array of scores. It's cetera. For example, the first step is listed in the five EP HP's pick a race and class. But to me you should roll stats then pick a class and race afterwards. Based on what options are available based on those roles stats the five raw or rules is written. Definitely promotes players making very specific. Concepts from the start of character creation. If that is fun for players, then more power to them. But to me, it is definitely a foreign concept of approaching character creation. I'm willing to give it a shot as I am currently doing with savage worlds in order to try to find out first-hand if it works for my group or not I will report back when we give five year. Try as always I value your thoughts on the matter. Sincerely, DM coho who good stuff coach. Now, we have talked about this a little bit. We've talked about kind of organic growth, and so on I think we could easily digressed for an hour on the sucker. So go Joe, this is good. I'm going to to this has been a banner episode for more topic. This is going in the topic bend, dude. Breads Java's become significantly easier. In the last twenty five minutes. It has this is awfully what are we talking about next week coach who has to say. Sure, I'm just going to reach through FaceTime and strangle Brad for other stuff from Kodjo da. Woo. Are nice. Yeah. It's tough, man. Yeah. You can get some people's blood boiling around some of that stuff. I think the interesting piece here is that go just says I like to have fun doing a certain thing. I will try this other thing. Right. I willing to give it a shot as he's doing savage worlds. He will try five he'll do these things. He's going to try it. And I think an interesting component to some this stuff is the people who will never try something because it doesn't sound like any fun. I know it would not be any fun. Have you ever tried it? No. I just know there are some folks that very strongly believe that without we'll get into this when we get into the topic. But some of this I think has to do with trust in the game master and the way the story will unfold versus having mechanic to enforce certain things, and we'll talk about that in the show topic itself when we get to. But thank you thought provoking, good stuff will written as always, sir. Thank you very much. Now, we bring up that show topic bright, we're gonna have to reference this letter or this Email like I want, you know, 'cause copied the hold on everything. Yeah. Okay. I got to tell we can almost go blunt. Bam. Bam retort or discussion through the whole thing. So I got it. I Gotcha covered. I know what I'm doing. All right, man. All right. Let's get you. What everyone does have my job for male. That's true. Let's get an idea director. It's nice. When people do their work for me. I can take credit. I tell you main topic, ladies and gents. Right bread. So speaking of stealing shit from our listeners Tony Baker asked us about recovering from a bad game. He said, well, I'm sure neither of you have Reverend bad game before Tony you're for tonight's. It could be a little bit intimidating difficult to recover after you've run a bad game. How do you? Engage the players again. Do you discuss issues with the game at the point at that point? Or do you just move on? How do you Protozoa moving or improving? So Tony I thought that was those are good questions. We've. Shouting. I've talked to the show before we fuck stuff of. I know I like I screwed this up. There's a couple of learning from mistakes. And if you others if you dig through the back catalogue, you'll find me the owning my mistakes if you different times. So. Sean you've had bed games. Oh, I've been in them, Sean. But. How do you know the question should be how how do you know, you've you're in a bad game in what's interest? That is actually a very interesting point. Because how do you how do you define bad game? I have had game sessions where tact sessions act in my heart. My whatever have for a soul, it's left. And like man, this is that was terrible. I'm like, hey, guys. I'm sorry and peeling. No that was great wheel a really timely. You do not have to you know, kiss my ass on this one. I am sorry. I just I really phoned it in and people stare at me and go. No. That was great Valla times on the boy, I thought that went pretty well. Some like, yeah, it was awry, I struggled a little bit with like fuck. I can't read this at all. So I think Sean your point is we'll take in and. I Tony sitting here with us the my conversation. I think Oprah would have been are, you sure was bad. How who told you? It was bad. Did you feel it was banded? The how how did you know, it could be something as glad typically bad as the group broke up. People swore threw beer cans, h other flip the table through Dyson said fuck you. I quit like Shawn's buddy through his books in the stone. Bad game that to me it was. And I thought it would. If I can get Jeff to throw books out in this dome. J, hey, we're working on now for most people are not sociopathic like showing that's considered a bad game. But seriously, though, if Tony were here, I think Sean you both. We're both is what happened. How do how do you know, it went that bad because he's talking about engaging players talking about issues and so forth. So I think to move this forward at all we have to assume that is agreed upon by at least sixty plus percent. Seventy five percent of the group that did not go. So well, and I think sometimes depending where it breaks depends on the medicine you need going forward. Sometimes it breaks at the end a campaign that ending sucked. Oh, sorry. The late now it's over. Well, let's move on the next one that type of fix to me is generally little bit simpler like well. I don't like the way that went ended. Okay. Make no don't end it like that again. But when it breaks in the middle at the beginning people bail on you don't wanna play anymore or use game master lose whatever energy you have for the game. That's when it gets a little bit difficult. So. I guess so in an example perspective sometimes you can be running a game. And have that ex- carnival thing happened and somebody doesn't ex- cardiac or doesn't say, hey, I don't want to do this. You know, you start bringing up Brett's, perennial favorite dead babies and someone any group is like look I can't handle that. They don't tell you stop talking about that babies pisses me off, they don't tap next car. They don't do something or you don't read their body language. Whatever happens or someone at the table push to far that X carnival stuff. You can have rules debacles where somebody insists in a critical fight. Sometimes I've haven't quite a bit at at the climax fighter big goddamn event. And the ruling is made at the table of action. So we can know the rules, specifically states. And then you get a weird rules argument or something dumb and that can recognize and sometimes the story itself. Just flat lines at wins bored with it it just doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Or no one is interested or sometimes the game Astor's. Like, you know, what I really don't wanna do this work and we play Star Wars. And it was. Yeah. It was just again. Anyway, it was kind of playing the play. Sure, I'll play Star Wars. Sean. Do you have any ideas or ideas, examples of bad games or way of game could break on you? I know you haven't had happened to you. But perhaps rumors you've heard of others. Well. You know?
"brenton sean" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"And it it almost seemed like it turned into everybody wanting to be in a batch. The most part. So yeah, I don't think he was everybody's favorite thing to write about. But you know, maybe down some of these guys really loved it. I tell you that what what was it where we have do we have someone from Saturday Night Live or we did something without or Night Live. And I think Brian was pretty excited about that. Because I think Brian hopes and dreams or or the one day right for SNL. So I think that is how dishing tapes for them. But you know, I don't know how that turned out for him. I do know. But yeah. So yeah, I don't know wasn't anybody favorite. And it wasn't even it was more of a frustrating tack than anything else. Yeah. Yup. All right, Brian. Appreciate the call. Let's go next to Eric owed six oh nine six nine. Please state your name and where you're from. Hello. This is Louis from jersey. Hey, Lou from New Jersey. What have you got for John today? Kind of couple of things. I'll but before I far away hold on. I just get the line full you there. John in anywhere three thousand nine. No. Oh, okay. All right now. 'cause I was about to ask you about seventh whole Brenton, Sean. And when they reconcile it because I was like oh hold on. Hold on John. Yeah. Yeah. I was there that was two thousand kids. Oh, my bet. I got the. No question. Then is my first question is, okay. I know that they said that he saw each other into catering area backstage, and everything and and all that. But how much of that was actually written for them? And how much of that? Did they actually go impromptu out the? Everything was one hundred percent real backstage. I remember see Bret Hart is you know, I grew up a hookah maniac. But Bret Hart was one of the main guys that I had always wished would come back and be able to work with so him. Coming back is was such a great experience for me. And I remember being there and as soon as Brett Goss air he went and met within and they had a closed-door meeting, and he went and met with Sean. And you know, people were wondering how that was going to go, and I don't know. Exactly, what was said in either of those meetings. I don't think anyone does except bread Shawn. And Vince, and you know, they came out and went out and did their thing. And I think that that might have been the first time. I think Vincent Brent had talked prior to that. But I think with Sean and bread that was their first time meeting and really being able to talk about things after Montreal. So I don't recall what you're talking about with the with the meeting bat in the back at the in the wherever you said that they meant. But I do know that, you know, it wasn't like these guys showed up, and, you know, Sean Mets door, and every you know, they had this thing going on this. This was legitimately. I wonder what's going to happen. When these guys go and and chat in the back. So it was it was pretty real. And then going out in and talking in. The ring was wasn't wasn't really scripted. I can't remember if we had to have them get anything over. But if we did it would have been like, hey, just make sure that you get across this and that but other than that that was them just going out there and doing their thing. And actually if you watch that show one of the things. I was pretty proud of was not proud in jokingly was that when Brett came back he interacted with with three people interacted with Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and myself. So if you watched the show again, and they go to the back with with breadth talking I'm sitting there and having a conversation with a member interrupted by Jericho. So that was one of my prouder Marcotte nomads for WWE. Yeah. Louis putting opioid for. So other than that to that was around wrestlemainia twenty six now my biggest question is with..
"brenton sean" Discussed on Gaming and BS RPG Podcast
"Shit. So the end of the combat. It's all done all finished. We gave Jeff the hard time because in previous episodes. If you've got back through the catalog, Jeff is the guy he's my buddy of like forty years through through books out into the snow. So of course, on Saturday in Madison after you're listening to this two days ago three days ago. It was pouring rain, and it was water everywhere ice. And so we were like, hey, Jeff, you can't take your shitting throat outside now. Okay. Just don't do it, man. It's not worth poke poke. We ran to Harry ran the shit out them. Because of course, we had Andy at the table who doesn't know this story. Of course, we have to embellish, and you know, blah, blah, blah and tell about the story of fourteen year old Jeff thrown his books out into the snow because he's one of his officers. Territories died. Yeah. So anyways, he he ripped he ripped it up himself. I'm like, you didn't even give me the satisfaction. So my buddy Joe's like revivify, am I? My son of a bit. Read that's bell out loud. And he reads it Mike son of a bitch, so digs the character. Out of the garbage can tape tape tape, any tapes up the character sheet, and I go he took a picture of it. I think he put up on Facebook. I saw. Yeah. I took a picture and put it on Twitter. And I said all the whole combat two hours worth whatever finally nailed down one of the player characters revivify, and there's the reconstructed character. She with pieces tape, I go. That's what your character looks like just looks like your character. She so what does that have to do zones in such theater? Mine men well because with ten player characters running a combat and going. Okay. Well, how far my way how far my way how far my way literally. I think I have to draw on a sheet a big circle and just go dupe dupe do and start putting people in those zone. So thirty sixty ninety one twenty one fifty this kind of zones of these talking about in. We're not done with your Email yet, Matt. So hold tight but when met mentions zones verses range bands range bantam cab. Yeah, I get that, you know, long short. You know, thirty or forty feet, blah, blah. But the dissolves I'd not thought I don't know a game that specifically calls them zone. Some trying to figure out if a have a game that does this positive. I do like game Star Wars uses them. Does it? Okay. Well, it said zones. It's short medium long. Melee. It's like engaged short medium long because oh you're short zone. You're in the short zone. Well, it's not zone is just you're at short range. So it's what's that arrange man versus his own peace. Call Matt's calling two different things. Well, owns versus range bands. Curious. I I need Matt when we're done with this thing if you could send gotta be quick to distance of some kind. I wanted to what game he's talking about. Because I don't know can't have zone one zone to be the same distance. No just called zone one true. Or whatever. I don't know. I I want more. I want more info. The sounds interesting biway going back like I think six player game in theater the mine in five he? Yeah. You're at hundred twenty feet, you're gonna have to make a move. Okay move. Okay. Now, you're at thirty feet. Big bad moves up thirty feet. Now, you're at thirty feet, not sixty bike keep track that stuff for me somewhat easy, but players man as lose their crap. And yet ten characters let's allow characters just like home. For my way. I'm like, dude just told. Sold down. Yeah there, but I don't blame him. But it get crazy. Okay. Where did I leave off? Commute off. I get you. Okay. However. All right. I've noticed many systems that could really benefit from full theater the mind and have been incorporating hybrid using zones range man's, then I just read it. Nope. Keep going keep going personally ended read this. Rewind the tape. I'm actually pretty sure I'm going to end up going with zones for my fantasy heartbreaker, though, I'm still reading up on different ways systems handle this. As a matter of fact, I'd really it really helped me out if you do an episode on tactical combat map versus zones versus range bands versus the the mind to help me out. Okay. Thanks Vance and minis can be cheap. When I started gaming in second edition. We bought one map and used Legos. We had to this day. I still only own like three minis though, I have friends with armies. I'm never strict on what I use and actually just use board game pieces. Most of the time. Things you cannot. No, I have only ever ran one horror campaign and only run mystery as an aside, not a main theme will usually always tell the players about what's going on. My main group will usually hang out after a sees season after a session, and we may discuss what happened, especially if something was missed often. This helps me as a jam because they can tell me they missed clue XYZ or they really didn't understand ABC when I explained it helps me hone my craft in my opinion. If a GM doesn't wanna reveal though I'm not going to throw fit. But almost everyone I've gamed with has been pretty easy with that flow of information. Of course, this assumes the information may not still be relevant later. So he's talking about the reveal because it's not going to be relevant later, killing the beastie and go, I'll if you just kinda did this awful us fire been over them. Minute. Oh, as opposed to telling them that the hands of ten Lowe's, if you put them in a circle, oh session one in good to know. Right that right right there you. Yeah. Good stuff. Matt as always thank you so much and range, bands and stuff. I'm sure Brett's John that down him. Rainy, Nichols emailed us about tactical RPG's. Hey, guys. Just caught up. Yes. I started up sewed one last June. Good, man. Randy goodman. I appreciate that. I'm now fully caught up. Anyway, I want to come in a few things regards tackles in our PG episode. I think you guys would in both enjoy thirteenth age third fourth edition mash up combo by Jonathan tweet. Rob hines? Oh, co creators of third and fourth edition d respectively so mechanics. I think you guys enjoy are the following uses engaged nearby and far away as combat distances as you bunch of indie RPG related components encouraging heavy role play is great for improvisation off the cuff Jimmy, but would likely dig this part of it. I had thirteenth age hardcover signed. Really cool. Preorder addition ready. I gave it away 'cause they didn't like it usually reenter. Just give it away got to it. No, read it. I read it in the system. Like, wow. This is really cool. I don't care about the world or the way that this. The different component the. Gosh, I can't remember the term for but either too much rules that are tied into the world. It felt like rules tied the world in like. At I just I did not get into it. That said the main reason I gave it away was too. Well, two reasons one Austin Catholics was is a huge thirteenth h fan. He did not get in on this and like to hear go. I still have the PDF. I got the PDF. I'm cool. And I also did not have anybody to run it for none of my group or anybody game with time was at all interested in trying it so I've yet to be able to either get in on the game or run for anybody who's interested. So that said, I figured you know, what I got a guy cool gamer Austin really digs this when we give it to him and to get back into it. I just go by the copy any. Yeah. I haven't read it. I have I think I have the PDF brandy continues their play of other pieces, but I, but when courage you to get the book and read it's also great for stealing pieces for Dini games. No matter the in. I would also leaned towards Sean side when it comes to dean, d thirty reaction. Doddie just chimed in there. Thank you audience or not too. I think the slog Israel. I believe what Sean was trying to say about being prepared tactically face. The players is along the lines of an arms race in reality. The players have four to six months versus your one. So advantage players at least tactically or play with really stupid players. Been doing it wrong. Smart people. Now, I had different questions to my survey. It's you know, it's twelve year old boys. I'm just telling just laying it out there for you. Check it out tactic shit out of those kids. It's easy. Can you read this? No good. Good to go. Anyway, carrying on here for several years. We were in a path on the game than courage place to create the most maxed out by the book. PC? They could game was great fun off and on for several years f got just too much it became difficult to intimidate the PC's abilities employer skills with all the splat books and play all the official ones that is found. The biggest problem was that a table pointers with different degrees of system asterik caused the combats to be pretty crazy read swinging willow skilled non min max PC's always being in danger of getting trounced by the appropriate challenge from the high-skilled maxed out PC's. And if the GM created a challenge for the low NPC's than the high MPC simply smoked it. Now, I'm not saying everyone will experience this with reacts Pathfinder. But but that I did and Sean grew tire. Of the effort took to Bill challenges for the PC's. I'm nearly fifty two and he'd my games to be ready to roll it straight outta box while having to tweak things too much to make reasonable challenges for my PC's. That's what main reasons I tend to run games thirteenth age five defense world's thanks for much front entertain show. And here's to issue two hundred plus more episodes Randy Nichols Michigander. He's a deep displaced Hoosier. Randy. Thanks, Randi, man. Very cool. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna take a pause real quick before we go on to turnover on Mark Roth Burks, but. Cool things. I really appreciate about our audience in everyone who interaction our community is. I do not recall a serious, you're doing it wrong. You're full of shit. You're everybody isn't very, very polite. Understanding they've stated positions in their best to caveat. Saying look this is what I like. And this is why I like it. Your mileage may vary. I think Brent in the strongest opinion for some other ones like that should be our shows mantra bread. Sorry. Cross that line. I have a couple of times can oput. Late when I'm right, right? So do as you do not as. Not as Brett leads onto do or Sean. I think there's a yes. I five probably spoken up. Maybe a little bit more forceful than others. I don't know. I have bashed a game though. Have I don't think. So the game we're going to forget. Well, you have some stronger opinions. I think than I do. Yeah. I do I do. Indeed. Anyway over remarks your, but it bread does bring up a good point. I don't want to belittle that lot of people are very doesn't work for me. This is how I do it in whatever this y like this game tot- like very awesome approach. Mark Rothenberg about the unexplainable. Dear Brenton, Sean longtime listener first-time emailer.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard
"An attorney, but I can't help you with advice here anything else. I don't I don't need to know. What did or didn't happen? Don't want to know a lot of. A lot of people in wrestling have. And the insinuation that. The Memphis territory had a reputation for underage girls, right or wrong. A lot of people have made that inference. Would you echo that? I mean that you heard the same thing not saying that it's true. But that the whispers in the locker room amongst the boys behind the curtain was that Memphis had a bit of a reputation in that regard. Absolutely. Yeah. Did and I did hear that. I never worked the Memphis territory for for Lawler Jarrett. So again, it's. It's all hearsay rumor and innuendo, and that's one of those things that okay, everybody. Here's everybody talks about in whispers about it. But it may just be a rumor and innuendo, and it is what it is. That didn't help his case. Right. Exactly. Right. So people are talking whispering because there was already smoke there. When this comes up up, you know, you're you're guilty until proven innocent. Well, let's. Let's talk about the decision to use Jeff Jarrett as a replacement why Jeff the right guy to step in and take Lawler spot. It was for how shows and it was just something to to get out there. I think we had already started the Jeff Jarrett vignettes on TV by this time. So people knew of him, and it was somebody new that Bret could have a good match with and. That was it. He, you know, he filled he filled out that space on the card. Talk to me about wash on Michael's is the right guy to headline the paper. Of course, this is before I mean, they had a match at the price of our series Brenton, Sean, but this is before Brenton show on is really a thing. Why was why was he the right guy? And what would he have done on this show had he not filled in for Lawler by answer? Last question. I he wouldn't have done anything on the show because we had been doing a suspension gimmick with him over the intercontinental championship. And all that the reason that we chose Sean is whenever you have a substitution insists specially a substitution one of your top marquee matches. You always try to make the substitution better than the original. If that is at all possible because you wanted deliver you want to over deliver to your audience. It's possible. That's what you do. So we bit the bullet and said, okay. Well, we'll end this Sean stuff. And you know, here's Sean he's there he can work. We can use him. He's the best choice of a name that we had available to us to put into that role. So that's why we did it. All right. Our most requested thing real fucking Rogers. Jeez. That cannot be our most requested. Now, they get hit with this three times a day. A lot of people want to hear the story of how this came to be mouth or even wrote in the newsletter. Doing a heel character designed as a parody of WCW Booker dusty Rhodes, tell me how whose idea was obviously you had been doing the dusty impression around the office and around the guys for a long time. It really tight with Vince at this point. How do you become the on air character? Why are you the choice and when Vince talks to you about doing that? Or do you pitch yourself to do it? How does it sort of morph into this Rio Rogers persona kind of like he thumb times? I would just go into the dream baby than just they will live in with gonna do this. How we live among and I would I would drop into I do it. Thanksgiving around strangers. I'll just go into dusty. Because all they will death that they write him. How redact look at pumpkin Pab. Just you know, I fall into dusty. He's easy to fall into giving living at whipped cream mega with foamy, babe. I love you, darling. I did that a lot Jerry Jarrett who would sit in with us from time to time on creative..
"brenton sean" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard
"Say demolition hair worker over the powers of pain or Lord on the business end of accent smash. Chat me up here about Brenton, Sean, I believe this is the only pay per view were those guys were on the same team. And we're pretty early into the rockers tenure here with the company hard foundations been around a few years at this point at this point. What's the Sean relationship like far as I know, they're friends are hanging out together in the bars and have drinks together. And things like that. I don't know if they're traveling together to that extent, but they were friendly. They there was no he or anything that would draw attention that people might say, oh my God. There's something. There was nothing. There were just two guys in their spot in the car doing what they gotta do. How would you categorize the relationship between the BULLDOGS and the ratios here? The the whole incident was about two months prior to this the answer, by the way, if you haven't listened to everything in the archives, which he should or something wrestle dot com. Yakkers Joe allegedly quote, unquote, sucker punch, Donna my kid or the role of quarters, and it did this after what most would agree was seemingly endless abuse. From Donna my chat me up here. Two months later. How would you categorize the relationship business and strictly business there? There's no friend friendliness or anything there. And it was just it was a business relationship in that was it they going to do what they had to do and move on. And of course, here you saw Mr. food he pulled the rope down. So that very Dr so take nasty bump out. But I love how they ask for a time out because my God there are no timeouts in professional wrestling. So there you go Fuji trying to defend his actions to acts not liking it any attacks acts once with a cane twice the cane now three times little chef from max turns his back and wctcam nails him with the cane. Fuji ula. Swing that damn. To their by God, it wasn't afraid to delay 'em in and people look at Mr. Fuji and in this time and go oh my God. How did he ever do anything man Fuji used to move in fly vigils one of those original high fliers back in the day? God, what an athlete he was. And he could he could go, but he's one of those island boys from Hawaii that. He could definitely go. So now, the powers of pain are going to pick up Fuji dust him off. Poor Mr. Fuji. And of course, they announce her putting over the high. There's gotta be something going on here and white killer. You know, what even say that? This was well done. He really enjoyed. This says. The arena fans. Didn't know the Fuji was supposed to be the he'll cheered bit the paper viewers new because the announcer set it up beautifully demolition than ran to the ring back to the ring and cleared. The ring the powers, and this was a great angle that came out of nowhere and. Yeah. Well, it was the double turn it was taking food G and just moving foods you they felt that the powers of pain needed a new mouthpiece. And they needed someone that amount piece. It was going to give them heat which has had guys in the in the wrong roles with the powers of pain being the baby faces the audience wasn't buying it and demolition being the heels. They have been there so long at that point the audience respected him and liked them. They look cool. So the powers paint coming in. They were demolition ripoffs. Now, put it with Mr. Fuji, and you've got a reason to boom. So briefly the Barron was with the powers of pain. And now, Fuji course, the baron is done here demolition to set up their feet with the powers of pain. Why was the barren out, and why was food in the bear was out because it was just really not working?.
"brenton sean" Discussed on OC Talk Radio
"You know what I mean if I can remember these moments from when I'm four five six years old that's something that's like iconic in my life stone cold through. I think it was the icy belt into the lake. You know that's like one of my first wrestling memories you know and then like so like seeing the outsiders come out so maybe I was a little more W._C._W.. But at the same time I'm four years old I'm flipping open through channels. I have no clue what's going on. You know what I mean. It's not like I could be like okay Monday at seven. I'M GONNA put on T._N._T.. I'm like I can barely right my name. It's just it can use people write their name when they four. I don't know I could talk is just images for sure because I know for me that I've constantly stated it is wrestling was always there like my dad would come home every Sunday directional every Sunday. I know he would have on W._W._f.. all-american it might have been something prior to what I remember. I remember when I was watching it it was W._w._f.. all-american <hes> it was salute Rawal officially started and I remember like that was going home watching that like for sure and then raw came on and I remember watching guys like crush and razor Ramon where I I didn't. I know who was good. I like I I like razor and I look dude ever do it man when he first started I loved him and I go back only got who's a bad guy but as a kid. I thought this guy was amazing. That's what it is man. That's why like when I met him I just has had I remember you likely to do what am I. I favor wrestlers for sure like it's really hard to pinpoint like if you've been watching as long as we have where like okay. This is the first fabrics you just like this because I think I remember now too because you had it clouded by who you've been watching lately. You know what I'm saying. Yeah which is crazy 'cause like. I think you know obviously like every year I was alive. I had a different favor wrestling like that year so like now if you asked me my top ten or compared to when I was ten there would probably be eight same but like maybe two different guys. You know what I mean yeah. I've kind of clouds you know but I try to stay on bias is try to stay his all time as possible. When I say that you know what I mean the older you get the more new wrestlers will debut or <unk>? Catch your eye helps and they move up. You're listening for me. It will forever be Britain Sean Number One all time list but because I was actually just having this conversation with stacy okay about our topless. I think we both at a top five Brenton Sean always he's my number one spot. I don't different shape between them but then after that it's like it goes Kane and then canes will be Steen Owens Okay and the one I think I go Owen Hart Gargano while wow so obviously all basis zero ten years ago you know steen wasn't on this Gargano on that list and I had probably had like actually about five years ago how to told you dolf was in my top five but after watching watching more johnny and then finally discovering more like Oh my God like he jumped up w._W._e.. He went higher for sure and I'm just saying Oh my God this guy's so much I was watching him today. Animal Yeah Yeah so I mean it's hard to pick favorites man. It's hard to pick favorites as man yeah shot at the stone cold. I gotTA give him number one if I was him for Halloween in kindergarten that's grandfathered in number one. Yeah I mean if you were you born in ninety eighty four nine hundred ninety four that's you that's four five years old on five years old ninety nine. I got a bald cap on my mom. Jira Goatee Mommy I came into the school you know I had to keep middle finger censored but people knew who I was and they get stunned at any minute Austin probably was your Hogan. Yeah definitely Def definitely so that's why I wasn't like like Super Hot Anna Hogan when I was growing up you know what I mean like four or five six I wasn't but but then end of you'll Hogan when he came back Hollywood affect that that was cool about say because W._C._W.. A._B._C. W ho in lake that's when he started like when you're born like Yuna you didn't have any recollection B._M._w.. AETNA until came back. I only knew him when I when I I found Hogan the lightning bolts in it was he was n w Ohio but but still he wasn't even my favorite then it was it was like I WanNa Watch Steve Austin you know throw him belts in the river and stern up Shenanigans Driving Zamboni and I want to see the outsiders knows my you know so when I think of that moment three favorite guys right there undertaker bro You know when I think of that moment of throwing the belt into the Shane McMahon into the river. It's <hes> didn't he. He'll he said something along the lines of like this is back in the pager years years like like pages and three one six or so. That's something I always remember. Yeah remembered that yeah. That's one thing that's crazy. They talk about wrestling with someone who grew up in a different times. They remember 'cause you're me. It's like I said Brenton Sean like that was my childhood and I I was around for Hogan Warrior savage but I was way too young to put really to when I started really get into it was Brent Sean but you your way after all that but but then like those magazines bro Yeah the world wrestling so I started probably getting those okay ninety nine what can we we start talking about this but we purposely left it all sure <hes> what was your experience with those bags because there's loved him. I'm still bought to buy them again. There's one issue yeah I remember. Which one do you got? My Dad like randomly brought that one over because that didn't last long it was like what to your magazine probably but they were like a philly. I think bill after Ofra wasn't yeah. I took the pictures because they were heavy C._W.. There every like they were but they gave ec w that like level because yeah because normally it'd be like probably <hes> at earlier W._w._f.. W._C._W.. And then they actually have three section for sure though issue that I remember yeah I don't know every issue. There's like a front cover in a back cover. The main front cover was came yeah and he was he looked so weird because his hair was an oppo. ponytail might seem like a normal dude and the other side was a chick and blue <hes>. Wait a minute stable and I don't remember the chicken blue because I remember there was to cover story the other one Shawn Michaels Oh wow and like there was somewhere in the magazine a picture of his wife who was a nitro girl girl yeah <hes> reading his Playboy Oy Y._o.. Like it was like her like you only see like the cover. That's funny not play with playgirl sure but still it's like definitely because it was that's to my favorite like rain and Sean. This aim is to get it that man those those magazines do they helped me up like dude. I saw lager yeah in the back of that magazine. When I'm four or five years old you know he's what he did? They did a picture. He's working at a desk. Who is this guy? He's got a crazy mass but I see Abdulah bleeding in it. I saw say boo R._V.. D I was you know new Jack as I do sweet you know so the irony was on some vision clouding the ones I had I had the number one where it showed all the covers are all these pictures and then had the number one cut out in it then I had the Dudley Boys said those Damn Dudley's. Those are the two I have. I'm how `bout to revive. That's the one that Yup. See doesn't look like a normal dude Yelich trying to make them look normal duties like this is just a regular but it's like dude. You throw a fireball. It's on you know I wanNA say show Mike Lasana back over right or might even be came to that but I remember my dad randomly coming home and just like oh here and I just like the three different sexes nail sweep pictures they did rankings. You know like random pictures. You know something that I remember is. I pulled old like pitchers out of actually that's why I had pitchers of Lena when she was in w w was biscuit geniality something like that. It's not a huge C._W.. Guys when someone could be probably tweeting me right now correct EMU who knew idiots this sorry I remember I think she debuted like a year so after that I'm like wait a minute death lead like Oh my God. I had her pitchers like they had like really cool bio pitchers Yeah Oh yeah we're all the stats they stabbed SAMBUC. Okay Okay Jerry Lynn Okay. Oh Yeah I gotta see the rocks on stuff like that. They always had sweep pictures. Find the scene so yeah like I was kind of talking about this earlier. I get these waves where I just like two weeks week and a half. I'm dishonest subject like I'll listen to one type of music and I want to get the most out of that or I'll watch these guys movies or watch all this guy's matches and stuff like that you know so so even back then like we can go back to their you know like I was getting as much wrestling information as I could. At the time goes way before Internet was crazy inside. Get those magazines. I learned about people you know. I'd get the D._v._D.'s backyard wrestling game and you see all those guys and you know the J._C.. W D._V._D.'s and seeing Chris hero dog you know and just stuff like that. There's something else I was about to say about that magazine that Oh I was just trying to get the most so I was always. Just you know just just trying to learn as much as possible from I dunno where I was going with that. The Honda route that we all went to the show I was on and I went to the show and madman pounds just eating chicken nuggets and French fries and he was he said the whole show up and I was Kinda in awe was like wait a minute. The SAT doodle okay is how it works. I go nice to meet you. You know so just something random but almost nothing exactly the same thing but I remember there was one Gino show back when it was at Turner's Hall Okay Am I got there really early early. Actually helped set up a little bit and then I was told okay like you have to go way on hallway so I I went out and did it for some reason. When people started showing up they just waited in line outside of the building okay? I'm sitting in the empty hallway. Were normally the people are filing injure. I'll okay whatever like I'll just chill here and <hes> Russell. Some rats are starting to walk in and they must have thought I was part of the show or something Taylor Hendrix okay she walks right in puts through stuff down and she's like high Taylor like during the normal wrestler thing and I'm thinking you are don't worry about Oh. My God like just one of those weird surreal moments A._S._l.. Goes Man me. I never thought I'd be taking Chasa Jeff Hardy New Orleans yeah so that's bucket list stuff. I guess if I had a wrestling real wrestling like weird wrestling buckles because there's one thing of like meeting people like I've met some of my favorites. I think the only thing that comes the top of my head is I feel every wrestling fan should be like this to an extent. I really WANNA meet fence. Oh yeah man what all that's what I was gonNA say okay so I wanted to get the most everything right and so I was reading magazines whatever I can get my hands on five years old right so my grandpa new I loved wrestling. I loved it you know and by that time. I knew I was going to do it right so when I'm four or five and I'm seeing stone cold. I'm seeing disco inferno. Mike dammit dude had a cool dance. You know I'm going to be you know but outside is really what did too with stone cold.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Cheap Heat
"Brent who one of the greatest robberies of all time again sean bracket org with anyone and brennan all time great wrestlemainia match against called sean will allow a fellow lawyer to retort i triple h has longevity twenty four years in the business and he's still putting on great matches and he's in better shape than most of the guys on the roster brett only had ten years in the mainstream business roughly when we think about it breath was on wrestlemainia too which is eighty six yeah you know what terms the mainstream business you're right i mean you can if you give him till the end of his wcw run it's like thirteen years or something right and although he wasn't really on his own pop in until what eighty nine so yeah i mean it is roughly about ten twelve years depending how you look at it anyways second he's had better and more memorable storylines than bread yes brenton sean owen and stone cold yes brett had sean oh in stone cold but triple h has had as good if not better fuse mick foley the rock stone cold kurt why to j undertaker sean batista vince mcmahon siham punk daniel bryan and seth rollins i don't know all of those are better dude some of those are good sting and inexplicably ronda rousey that's not even counting the memorable hat as part of deacs revolution third he's unequivocally better on the mike one of the best most hated in criminally underrated heels of all time and finally more mainstream than bread if you ask the average on wrestling fan if they know bret hart ninety nine percent with who triple h have been on kimiko bear espn even people don't know wrestling no that wrestling is the thing that triple h does in short he's a border line three time hall of famer on his own with the ex and evolution evolution not making often an underrated entering on the my talent and an ambassador of the sport he's not even close to being my favorite wrestler but even i have to agree he's one of the greatest of all time and if you don't agree with that i have two words for you enjoy yourself sincerely jessie are you listening r j that was a phenomenal phenomenal email i've got two words for you enjoy yourself you may have just changed the future of cheap pete dude do you know how big if dippers steen's listening how big dipper steam just popped to i've got two words for you enjoy yourself.
"brenton sean" Discussed on Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard
"Ocean will let us bruce bridgford or eric bischoff to be head booker first of all i'm not starting wrestling promotion but secondly i would use sean wants that i whose idea was worse katie vick brawl for all who that's a tie both hor both horrible in their own right fun question here that we've gotten several times before let's see if you can give a different answer because it feels like he might the rumor and innuendo that sean was supposed to face brat at wrestlemania thirteen if that wound up happening who it's don't call the face that night at wrestlemania cannot freeze how i would free style that the original plan would have been brenton sean now we're barring injuries here austin pill man awesome pill would've been absolutely used yes in bar you know but again the original idea was to go with brenton sean there and i think that looking at the whole the whole nine yards especially when you kind of get into that summer with filming and looking at what you have now looking at that baby face build for austin that would have made perfect sense jedrzej wants to know that hacksaw jim duggan surfer a head injury that made him behave the way did and did he carry the object that call said injury you know the the big injury that hacksaw jim duggan had was an injury at sam houston coliseum houston texas in the mid south universal wrestling federation where one man gang in duggan were working in duggan kat his head on the corner post and a swear man it was almost a quarter of an inch deep in about four inches long they had to staple his head up in that was one of the worst injuries of ever seen but no acts didn't have that kind of head injury the hell kind of question is that what it means for gimmick you know with the hub of the game no he just was.