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Beauty for the Blind Tips to Empower the Visually Impaired

Art Beauty

34:38 min | 7 months ago

Beauty for the Blind Tips to Empower the Visually Impaired

"This is the art Beauty podcast where we tell the real truth about the fake shipped. And today my fabulous guest and co-host is Chelsea win. She is a licensed cosmetologist an image consultant and she also is a very special kind of educator Chelsea Welcome to our show. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me Amber, sir, Thank you. To be honest today. It's a real honor to have you on because I'm going to let you explain the type of education that you provide. Well, thank you so much. Aside from being a cosmetology instructor where I work for a global company name Chi and I teach hair make I mean hair techniques and color techniques and Beauty School for students as well as for teachers and salon owners. I also teach non Visual and adaptive techniques for individuals who are blind wage. Julion pearre disabled on you know, makeup techniques grooming hygiene how to do their own Nails how to do their own hair so that they can prepare for job interviews and even more so more importantly it's about being independent self confident and always looking your best whether or not you can or cannot see yourself in the mirror. I have to say you be honest with everybody listening right now when I you know, a lot of the times I'll receive story pitches and ideas some of them come from you at home. And when this month when your name came across my desk, I was intrigued because admittedly, you know, I thought I don't know that many people who are visually impaired and you know, when I started this podcast, I really wanted this to be a place where people could come and get education and be empowered and and also be dead, Lightened about things that we might not know about whether it was products or procedures or or people in general and you know through talking to a learned that October which I feel like I'm not many people know his breast cancer breast cancer awareness month is is also visually impaired Awareness Month. Correct? Yes. It is the month where there is white cane safety day, which is nationally recognized day and it's about you know, recognizing individuals who are blind and visually impaired and really addressing their independence with by using the white cane which as you know is what they use to help with orientation and mobility and all the Independence that maybe a lot of people may not perceive that they have right so but yeah, it's a very empowering Day, I am so honored that you are here. I think that for again people listening. This is going to be inspiring and emotional when we started talking in our in our pre-owned chat. You've got some some such brilliant tips that whether you are visually impaired or fully sighted. I think that you are going to find incredibly useful and and I hope this podcast particularly gives you a little bit of inspiration and you know, and and that you leave it feeling a grateful for those of you who don't have to deal with visual impairment of how lucky we are. So I think you get into this field. How did you get into this specialty? It you know what I have to say. It was purely by accident. I really was very much like you and very much like most people in the world who may or may not most people haven't met a blind person in their lifetime. And so I was very unaware of the need even that this even existed that there were blind women who wanted to learn how to do their makeup nor did I even have the idea that that that was something that you know was a concern and so several years ago back in 2011. I started volunteering reading for the blind games on a radio show called sight into sound radio and I was volunteering, you know, just to read books read, you know magazines to to the song mind and then over that course a couple of months later. I went to an event that we were, you know, hosting or not hosting but there and I met a blind young lady. Here in Houston. She's also known as the MasterChef winner for 2012. Her name is Christine Hall. If you pull her up on the internet, you'll find all information about her. She is a blind woman here in Houston who won MasterChef 2012. Wow, and you know, she's like a celebrity in the blind community and I walked up to her cuz I was there on site into sounds behalf. And I said, hey, you know, I'm a hairstylist and a makeup artist. So if you ever need anything, I'll be more than happy to help you and just so you know get you ready for the cameras and get you ready on set and she said, you know Chelsea, there's so many makeup artist and and people like that that are usually on said that can do that for me home. But to be honest since I lost my vision I haven't been able to do my makeup for myself anymore. And I said, oh really and she said, yeah and I said, well she's like, so do you think you can teach How to put on my own makeup and I said, why don't know I've never taught a blind person to put on their own makeup before, you know, I teach you know, young ladies and their mom and later, you know women that come in at my school and all the time who have Vision, but I said, you know what? I don't know but let me give it a try and so so we set up an appointment in her kitchen. I came to house several times and cookies something good. Not yet. Okay. All right. All right. We got to get in there. She did open up a restaurant here in Houston called The Blind goat, so just woke up there, but she has her own restaurant and she she does cook but at that time, you know, we sat down in her kitchen and she she taught me what it is that a blind person needs. Like how to teach her I didn't even know how to teach her. So she was like, okay. Well, can you describe that a little bit better? Can you like what you know and then hear what does that bottle feel? Like, what does that feel? And so here I am in our kitchen learning how to teach a blind person with audio description. I didn't even know what the word meant at the time then it was how to give verbal instructions on how to describe color how to map your face with your fingers and feel like orientate or your body. Like where are my eyebrows where you know are my thoughts eyelids and things like that and then like using your hands as guides and using voice as you know instruction and so it was like and then learning how to identify the differences between this bottle versus that bottle. So she really she really was instrumental in introducing you really to A Whole New World and you know, you did mention something interesting that she had lost dog. Site. Yeah, she wasn't born bite. So she she actually had lost her site. You sent me some interesting facts that I want to read one of these here because I I was kind of blown away by this off excellently twelve million people forty and over. I have Vision impairment including 1 million who are blind and an estimated 93 million adults in the United States aren't high risk for vision loss. So, I don't know that any of us really think about, you know, losing our vision. Yeah, and and what the impact of that would be if you had been able to see in fact, you know assume at what point did she lose her vision in her early morning? I believe so she'd done her makeup in the past probably prior to losing her vision and and having to relearn that must just be such a challenge in in so many ways. Yeah and the reality is is that with that statistics that you just shared from the CDC dead. There may be several of us and maybe even me someday the has to learn how to do that on our own because that's not to say it couldn't happen to us. Right? And so when you lose your vision package most people lose their Vision later in life. Most people are not born totally blind. I don't know the exact number I'm going to estimate about 10% of people are actually born blind. Okay, the rest of us, we become blind lady on and so it's just a real problem a real reality and it changes your whole world. Not only are you learning simple like things like life skills like makeup application, but you're having how to cross the street you're having to learn how to navigate in your own kitchen. How do I cook if you can't see how do you make your bed? How do you get around in your house? You know, it's just things like that that people realize how how much Vision affects our lives, you know, and so these are just one of those skills that I teach so I am And I keep saying this I'm so honored to have you on because I think that you are just like such in this is such an inspiring story and we are actually going to hear from one of the young women who you taught to do her own wage up. We're going to see a video of her later in the show before we get to that. Can you let's talk about some of the tips that you give to people so when it comes to putting on makeup off what how do you begin to teach somebody makeup application first off? We got to be very clear on knowing where your facial features are and so we're going to use a sense of touch Thursday. We're going to use sound and just understanding and orientating your face because when I do well instruction on where to place your blush or your lipstick, you have to know where are my cheekbones, right? Okay. Sure. Where are the brow bones? Hi. Where is my you know, where is the hairline, you know right off. And things like that, you know, jawline. So when we talk about contouring when we talk about shadowing when we talk about I make up you have to know. Okay. Well, where's your eyelid versus your eyebrows? Right? Right, right and and having to feel your way through all of this. I just I'm I'm trying to wrap my head around, you know, something like putting on Foundation. Yeah, how how do you teach one to do that when you can't see so there's a lot so there's there's different ways of foundation. Right right with Foundation. If you have no visual Acuity at all in cannot possibly see like, you know, the color of the foundation on the tube. You're going to have to have some kind of verbal. I mean visual guidance like a person who can color match that you get you a color match. There are off. Places online where I've seen you could do like a face color match like on the Avon website. I've seen that but it may not be 100% accurate, you know, depending on the lighting in the room. So I would always say you need somebody to find information but actual application. Now one of the big tips that I give is if you're using like a liquid foundation, you can actually use temperature to your advantage. So if you put the liquid foundation in your refrigerator and let it get nice and cold by the time you take your foundation out and then you actually, you know, squeeze it on to your fingertips. You can actually feel where is it cold? And where is it not so then you can feel oh, I've put it over here and I can I felt that I put it over here now also with the sensitivity on your fingers. You can also feel where is wage like clear skin with no product, but you can also feel the difference beware. It feels a little bit more soft and velvety. No one. I want to stop you there for a second because I when you told me the boss. If you're listening to this right now and your jaw just dropped minded to write how incredible is it to think about? Okay this sensation of cold and helping us to put on her makeup. I I just I love you for this. Please keep going know and and using your fingertips like, you know, like most of us we we think about makeup and we go to like a store and we get off brushes. I totally understand that but when you're talking about a person who is blind and visually impaired, you know, a brush you cannot necessarily know exactly where that is because a brush is very wide right further on your eyelid that you wouldn't want to play something. So I I one of the one of the big things with my life trainings is that I teach to use your fingers, of course, you know, you're going to sanitize and you're going to clean your hands and stuff before an application, but, you know, you can feel exactly where you're putting everything. And so you use your fingers as a guide you just sense of touch to really be able to you know, feel where you're putting things. So that's really important. So a lot of my instruction is like very carefully moved to fingertip, you know, two of your fingertips are going to like push put some blush on your cheeks, you know like that in a burst circular motion, right? You're not going to do it as a life. You're going to do it like up or circular motion cuz you don't want to have dragged gravity pull down on your skin. You want to go up right? But you do upper circular motion. So that's very descriptive. I don't say just apply blush with your two fingers cuz I if apply it differently, but if I say upper circular motions, then you're like oh and if I say small circles versus large circles, then you're like, oh, okay when you're doing some of this and we're going to get into your services a little bit later, but when you are teaching people you're you're using Technologies, Like this like seems so that you can see them and proton. I think this is so wonderful. What about you did mention there are certain Technologies. I know if you go into Sephora Sephora has a great color matches brown tool which will help you really pick the ideal foundation in a number of Brands. I remember prescriptives. I don't even know if they're still around but they used to you know be able to customize things but there are some other apps that you like for identifying colors. Correct? Yes. Yes. So and also on your note like Avon has like one of those color matching games too, but you know, but but when I'm talking about identifying actual color, there is be my eyes. Okay, these are out there any iPhone I believe it could be on Android. I'm not sure but I'm on iPhone you can be a be my eyes as an app you can download for that and what it is is it's like volunteers just like you and me who are sighted we sign up for this app off. Anywhere in the world and then a blind person signs up on this app. So they matched a sighted person with a blind person and they they volunteer using their iPhone and she can use a camera and if there was a blind person on the other side of this this phone then I could see you and I could tell you. Oh, yeah that that matches are no that doesn't match long. Wait a minute and this is all volunteer all volunteers and my eyes my eyes. Yes, I did love I always said I love living in the future. That's that's that's wonderful. And and how long do you have to sign up and do it for a long period of time like your match with a buddy, so it's whenever you have a five or ten minutes available, so everybody better be everybody who's listening to this podcast then go sign up for this exactly and it's totally free. Yeah or person who's a visually impaired and it's totally free of course as a volunteer. There's no Anything and so now it'll call you on your phone just like a regular phone call and it'll have a very distinguished sound to the ringtone I believe but but does is if you don't have time just don't answer it goes to the next volunteer great. If you do have time then answer it and they you know, you just talked to the person. So you're using your camera to see them but the identity of the blind person is not given away. The identity of the blind person is kept, you know cat I've it private life, you know, they choose unless they decide to turn their camera around and say Hey, how do I look today? Do you think I look good or do you think my hair? You know, do I have a stain on my shirt or is this a red shirt and a blue shirt? You know, so that is human interaction. Like totally like all of us around the world using technology to help each other. So I loved it gets me emotional. I'm getting emotional right now dead. Um, you know what? I think that this is a good point. We should show the video of Brenda Brenda Gonzalez, who is this eighteen-year-old phenomenal beautiful beautiful young woman? Like I'm just going to let you watch this video and you can see how Chelsea helped her. Hi. My name is Brenda Gonzalez and live in the Dallas area. I'm eighteen years old and fifteen here and this past summer. I took lessons with his pills. Even though the pandemic affected many things over the summer. I was still able to take my lesson virtually using them before I used to have my mom and my sister do my makeup for me. But since I learned I am able to do it myself independently, and now I feel comfortable doing my own makeup. It's still really comfortable doing my own makeup because I feel confident and I feel professional each day off I go to school and it's really fun to do my own makeup because I get to enjoy myself. During this training I learned how to have company and advocate for myself and I learned how to give us me and public last year. I had one King Day 2019 became forgettable because I met Ms. Chelsea and learn about her services and this is what I always wanted to do because I heard many girls talk about their makeup and hair off and I didn't know anything because I didn't have any experience. All right, I feel proud of myself off of what I had accomplished and I feel more independent and this is really cool. Because in one day I become a VI teacher I have the skill to teach other people and how to do their makeup their hair or something and it just offer interview entire presentation. This video got me. So emotional and when I saw her at the end, she looked beautiful and deadly you must just to get a compliment like that that that you inspired her to want to teach other people and day it is You know when I watch this video the first time I went to her teacher Miss Miss Brenda Miss Belinda. She was the one who helped create this video and she's the one who recommended her to come to my trainings. And when I saw this video I was like I wanted to cry so many times because I felt so proud of her, you know, and it was just one of those validating in my life, you know, when you know, you were born to do something and I felt at that when I when I see testimonials like this of my students and my clients who are just like home jumping up and down and happy that they learn something to be fully independent and not have to ask a family member or a sighted friend and people who even said to them in their life. You can't do that that's off, but she when she was like my mother used to do this for my sister used to do my makeup and now she's doing it. How did you teach her to put on eyeliner? Okay, eyeliner wage The most complicated things that I can teach so it's not to get into the full nitty-gritty of it. But first off I have to say it starts with you know stability. So I always feel like putting your hands on a table because you're standing in front of a mirror or somewhere or just standing there doing it really nilly your arms may not be stable. Right? So I say okay put your hands off the table get very if so, it's level and then be stable get your face to you know, a place where you could feel like where your eyeline eyes are. I believe I have an eyeliner right here. So I mean, I've got twenty-twenty vision and you know, not at all to make light of this but I have trouble putting on eyeliner with that mirror. That looks dead. So so once you get stable, okay, and you're in front of you know, arms are out of at a place where you can actually touch your face and peel your eyes. The first name is orientation and orientation. So orientation means like just find out feel for where your eyelashes are. I just want to go ahead and close your eyes and feel where your eyelashes are. Hm that right from the inner corner of your eye to the outer corner of your eye. You can feel highly extends all the way out, right? Yes inner corner of your eye then I want you to be able to touch to it and know where I'm going and wage, you know, so then if you follow above your eyelashes, you could feel the the skin on your eyelids and go ahead with your fingertip, right? Cool. So that's going to your boss eyelashes are going to be the guide. Gotcha. So even though you can't see the line that you're drawing. You got a guide their eyelashes are and you're going to be placing your pencil tip off of the line where your eye eye lashes are right when you start falling off track like start going away from your eyelashes now about mine is no longer straight, right? So another thing is is that I also teach about pressure. So like here I am holding up my my other hand right now when you take a pencil and I'm teaching a student I say go ahead and draw a line with your pencil for me. So when you touch when you draw a line you can walk you you know that when you do light pressure the line is very soft. Right right. If you do if you take that and draw a firmer line with more pressure off. Yeah, the sticker so now I ask my student. Do you want to have more of a daytime look with a finer line, which means you're going to have to use a softer touch more of a dramatic evening look and now you're going to go for a more dramatic bigger Bolder line. I mean, like I said, I think that these are tips that are good for everybody whether you are visually impaired or fully sighted. I also saw her doing the lipstick with just I just loved how how do we how do we teach lipstick as weekend? Is it all about the feeling? So before we get into that, how do you help people tell the difference between let's say if you want to wear like a nude lipstick or if you want to go with like a bright color. If a person has some type of vision, okay, some level of vision. Some people can see color so they can actually hold them up and actually hold it up close and they can still see them under magnification and lighting so then if there's two ones that are similar in shape, you know, then you could like put a rubber band around with one bottle one lipstick and the other one has no rubber bands. So, you know, even though they're exactly the same shape. Mhm one with the rubber band is always going to be the one that's the nude color, right? The one without the rubber band is going to be the one that's the Bold evening bright red color per say let's just say now when it comes to identifying Absolutely, that's a great technique for like anyone who's totally blind as well as anyone who has some level of vision color. But for a person who's totally blind who doesn't who cannot see the difference between off the shades, that's when those apps like be my eyes come in seeing AI which is another one taptapsee, which is another app where you can actually hold back. Once you download the app hold the phone in front of the object take a picture of it and the item the the app will Use its color coding, you know features or whatever and it will read out loud to you. It will speak out loud to you and it will say that is wrapped. Her name is read. This lipstick is you know a brown or whatever now it's not as exact. It's not going to tell you, you know, like, you know, if it's like a light purplish pink, right? Sure. It's not going to give you necessarily the the variations in Shades. It will help you know, which ones right for date night. And which ones maybe is right for the office. Yeah, what about the hair? You know if she her hair looked phenomenal. So what what was that that they took the tool that she was using as an educator with G I go to a lot of beauty shows a lot of events. I have a lot of education and so I'm always on The Cutting Edge of like what like new what's going on wage. And so years ago, I saw one of the tools that I love the most called the chi lava Spin and curl. Okay, and it's very interesting because it's basically suck shape of a tulip right you gotta stem. You got the bulb and in the bulb area most traditional curling irons have an exposed curling Rod, right? That's why most of us whether or not cited or not and I'm guilty myself. I burn I'll just home I've done it all. Okay. So this is not this is a total honestly for everybody else is here. I'm going to use myself as a demo. I'm going to take about a square inch of hair cuz you don't want it to stick. Okay, I've got mine setting at 450 degrees and I have it at like 15 seconds setting so for finer here 15 seconds medium hair 17 seconds and like a thicker course, you're here nineteen month. Second setting okay U-Pull-It you feed it into this opening in the groove. Okay, then these two buttons here either rotate away from your face or towards your face pack away from my face. You press the button the hair automatically feeds into the curling iron. And because it's been protected by this outer outer shell. I never look at how it's like right up again. You're not burning yourself, but this is incredible. So this wasn't created. This was created for everybody. But you have found this. I mean and look, it's like the perfect girl. Yeah how psyched how site was Brenda when she got when she figured this out. It was like in the video that you saw you could hear us ecstatically yelling in the background. Yeah, but that was my first time ever teaching her how to use that. She loved us any girl and she was just like so happy like her face lit up. Her teacher was excited. I was excited. I was proud of her life and the fact that it was safe. It didn't burn her it didn't rain. And and the thing is is that that this is one of those things that parents as much as they love their children. They don't want them to hurt themselves, right? And so they curl hair for that for their own daughters themselves. They tell them don't do that much that they don't I mean as a parent I don't want my child to get hurt. But with this tool they don't ever have to worry about that, you know, and so amazing, you know, and so that that's why sometimes when people say you can't do that or don't do that because it's out of love. It's out of fear. It's out of concern of them hurting themselves, but when I saw this tool I put you into together and I said, you know what it's just a for a sighted person it would be great for a blind person because I don't know if you heard it while we were talking. Did you hear the beeping? Yes, so then it tells you when to come out so you're not burning your head off. Basically. We're just something that as a sighted person have done to you know, we've been talking about we've been talking so much about makeup. Which I think you know for the most part we associate with women, but we know that there is a lot of men out there who wear makeup to but but you also have services for men as well. Correct? What? Yeah, I mean Thursday for our blind or low-vision gentleman out there. I teach non-visual shaving techniques and hairstyling a male grooming and like my friend Maxwell Ivy who recommended me to you Amber. Thank you so much Max for this. I'm giving you a shout-out as a blind podcaster himself. It was important as a public speaker how to look his best how to purchase clothing and how to tie a tie non visually by himself. So those are techniques that I I also work with for our men I my website is Josie n as in cat Nancy Vision image.com, and there's all that information on there. You can also email me at Chelsea win loss. P o s e a w i n c and vision image and you can also we have a Facebook page for seeing Vision image Consulting. You can go check on Facebook to see some testimonials you can see we're going to put more videos out there and as soon and I'm working it's in progress. Okay channel, so great thousand and things like that and the wonderful thing even now with covid-19 doing this since 2015 online. So in person it's been since June 2012 that I've been teaching these classes, but before Copenhagen happened, I was teaching these classes on Zoom, which is great. I know we've been using Zoom forever and it is a phenomenal technology and I just need to reiterate to everybody, you know, you're doing this for four people who are cited. So anybody who wants makeup tips, but you know as we were mentioning today, you know and really focusing on just wage. Credible work that you're doing with people who are visually impaired if you know somebody and really with zoom this it could be anywhere in the world. They can have your services and and really as we saw from that video it off so empowering and I think for everybody else who got to see it it is so inspiring and I want to just thank you so much for being on the show and remind everybody. You know that this is the white cane we have white cane day. This is vision impaired awareness month and maybe just today take a moment for those of us who who do have our vision to really just be grateful. Yeah be really grateful and you know what I challenge some of you at home. Maybe try some of these makeup tips that Chelsea has given us wage. I shut you know, just so you can can experience and again really we try to ground ourselves in gratitude here. I just want to thank you so so so much for being on Thursday. So much Amber, it was a real honor and the fact that you care so much to share this information with more people is really touching because I think the thing is is that the more that we can understand each other the more that we can put somebody ourselves in somebody else's shoes the more we build compassion in the world and understanding and love and you know, this reaches the people who have skills and techniques that they want to join with me and like we can make this a better world for more people because you never know honestly when disability can happen to you, you know, when you can lose vision yourself. Yes, we're lucky enough where we can open our eyes again and see the rest of the world but not some people aren't that lucky so and and I want to always say to everybody out there listening you were introduced to me by by another person who had heard the podcast had seen the podcast. So if you guys have any topics that you want me to cover off, Or you know some fabulous incredible stories or people like Chelsea, please let me know. You can always email me at hello at RPD podcast. You can find us on Facebook and Instagram at our Beauty podcast and it's always we will see you next Tuesday. Hi.

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Keepin' It Real In A Brave New World

Not A Single Fork

25:07 min | 1 year ago

Keepin' It Real In A Brave New World

"So now that we've tackled the holidays. How's the cooking? Cooking's fucking awesome? I'm loving it I'm feeling good. I'm relaxed drinking stress-free but now I've got to do all this fucking shopping. What's the problem with that? I hate shopping. Oh well is that something I can help you with? Can You well? That's what this podcast is all about season three and we're going to market. This is candace calmly. I'm Italian Jack. And this is not a single fork. Another podcast about food and cooking. Yeah but we're going to keep it real. We have our first patriarch member we do. Yeah so so. Let's talk about patriotism Patriot guys again so and we always will. We don't always but we often mentioned that. We have a patriotic page. And that's part of. It's it's really kind of a cool setup where creators creative people can have some financial support that is above and beyond. You know like like mark who plays concerts yes. This is the kind of thing where questions artists and people like us. Yeah Kellyann have people support them a little bit more. It's like a secret club. It kind of no. It's it's not a country club exclusive like speak. He's like members it's a members only only. Yeah that's what it is. What it is super secret members only really super. It's not it shouldn't be secret now. Fuckin- money make any but it is members only and so if you feel that you are special enough to be a member. Yeah which I think you are. Everyone Patriae on paid. Yeah 'cause it's fun in any event and you get bonus things that normal people. Don't get so like videos and recipes and like whatever we feel like putting on there. There's a little what's it called. There's three tier is down three tiers. Okay Yeah and so get on there and check it out if that's not for you great but if it is please keep listening listening to us. You have an if you don't WanNa be a patron or a Patriot member but it's really. It's really fun for us. To do. The patriarch page and different for us to do and we kind of have fun and then you guys can see because we never have. I never have fun so boring. But Brenda Brenda is our first member so I think we should send her something special in the mail. Don't you yes. Let's do that. We will. We don't know what it is yet. Well we actually. We've talked about it. Talked about we want it to surprise. Brenda Yeah so. We're not going to tell you no but thank you so much for being our first. That did it patriotic member. Yeah and always supporting us. And listening to our podcast. We do miss you on. The facebook lives though so. I don't know she. She actually has been. I don't know where she I don't know where she in. Tiffany have been but they're back. Okay and Brenda has been posting comments. And so we kind of went back and forth on the PA because she had some problems finding ingredients so she said well. I'll just do next week and I was like well. You can. Why no shit and you guys don't Cook with So we're doing facebook live. We're doing once a week on the weekends right now but once we gear up and get ready to go back to work which most people are doing and we're kind of going to talk about that too. We'll be doing once a month on Fridays. And even if you don't Cook along with US watch it something fun to do. Yeah a cocktail hang out with us because if nothing else I mean we of course are goofy anyway but the questions and the gas tank us and people who are who are cooking along I I D- amazing the Lice. Or last time we had a lady that self fucking fire alarm and the fire fire came during our class. Yeah and then the she said the fire issues making sure she's the Fire Department came in and she was like. Oh do you want one? And they were like no. It's probably burned. Yeah so funny. Yeah we are. We arguing up to go back to work. Yeah we are we are. Yeah so what does that mean for. Well a lot of people actually going back to work tomorrow or tonight just or even last week last around the last few days thing. Yeah and we're not ready for that. We're frankly not ready. We don't think it's over but we're going to. We're going to be very cautious. We're going to have much smaller classes. We used to have sixteen in a class. Where were we would even allow more than sixteen? Oh Yeah we don't go to twenty four. They knew each other. Those days are over over for awhile. So we'll do eight people. Everybody will have their own station unless they come from the same house probably well and also like on couples nine date nights. It'll we're assuming that those people have been together through the whole. Yeah Yeah. So they'll they'll be two tabled still. We will have to say no. I dates. Yeah you cannot first-day or not trusting as they come in. I'll be like okay. So did you meet on tenders. You guys met before her for you. Like what the relationships? We'll be scoping it. I need to know before. Place your table. Welcome but yeah but yeah we'll have stuff separated and we'll have things a lot smaller. And they'll be eating at their stations as opposed to sitting at a community to- communal tables for awhile. Adly Yeah and that'd be masked up we will. We will happenings. We'll be like the MATT. Who Unmasked Singer? They should just wear full costs. No no not not just a man high. Now it's going to be hot but if you want wear your mask. We recommend it. We're not going to provide for you. We are not going to provide masks. We're not gonNA make you wear a mask although personally. I'm pretty judgy about people who don't wear math. Wait a minute you do. You remember that thing which it's let me explain to you. What mayor wearing a mask is like this because it was a really funny me so if true true true if I'm naked and someone peas on me I get p. l. over me if I have clothes on and someone peas on me. I still get a little bit wet if someone the one person peeing has clothes on and I have clothes on the peace as in their clothes. Yeah that's where it is. That's wearing a facemask yet. Yeah that's a good one. Yeah I like gap I like it. Yeah okay so we won't require you to wear a mask but you just heard our explanation. Your head don't wear masks just paying on people just a but we will have masks on. We will be keeping people one per table in. You will be six feet apart. Well and the other thing too is I think we may have touched on this before. But like for those of you. That aren't in the restaurant business or those of you. That don't know anything about restaurant people and I'm not speaking for everybody but I know at least the people that we know. It's probably the safest fucking place you can be because all this bullshit about sanitizing and washing your hands guys. We've this we do this daily. Yeah it in part of our fucking routine well and it's not only in the food industry but like in the cosmetology industry. We'd be shut down because I saw this woman on the news the other day and they were talking in the reporter was talking to her about. Oh where are you taking new precautions? Bullish says look we have regulations. We have guidelines already been sanitizing from the get go. Yeah because we have to. Yes and it's the same in the food industry. It is the exact same. I mean yes I do. We do we deep clean every night. No we don't deep clean. Deep deep cleaning will be happening a lot now. Yeah Yeah Yeah So. Don't worry about us not being cleaned. Yeah we're a little worried. Berlow worried about everybody else. Everybody else not been cleaned. We're like a hazmat suit. God I'm GonNa get so hot in all my suits. Let's not talk about it because we're just GONNA have to. There's only gonNA be people. I'm not going to be running my ass and I'll I'll have some space in between the tables annual have nine hundred pounds of dishes. That's true all have four hundred and fifty percents of dish my little steam room. Yeah turn the air-conditioner my way. Freezing like a refrigerated truck. Yeah because you know in in that kind of leads to before all this happened people who have come to our classes. Look Askance at some of our utensils or pans or what or are cutting boards or whatever. Because they're not. They're not dirty but they're not perfect. They're they're not what someone how someone's Hey. They're not beautiful per scene. Because guess what we use them every fucking day. And it's not just US using no. That's the issue right. And so we've got that rugged it's rugged looking good yeah it's like rugged dish rugged pots and pans and. They look like they've been through some shit because they have but they're cleanest fuck because they go through that sanitizing machine. If I went through we should put people through the dishwasher sanitized. Santa Hot and they can be in there with their mouths open and they can be corona free. Yeah and yeah and then maybe we could add some ultraviolet light to get up their asses so when you walk in the door I want to know how long have you been sleeping with the person. You're with. Ben Dover I'm GonNa Stick of fucking light up your ass and get in the dishwasher so I can clean and then we'll start and will feel say how good to go. Yeah Yeah So. We have a lot of people who are who are pretty judgy of us just to start with. Because they don't know all the Shit we have to go through just toge- those work tables put together anyway so they will really be you know if you look at if you look at like the cause because like our pans. They have that black residue on them used us. Look that you don't have at home because either you scrub the shit out of him. Every time he fucking home where you don't Cook at Home Sixteen people. You don't know cooking at your house. And here's like bettering is the other thing that doesn't happen to like induction pans or pans used on lead electric. Yeah that's from gas okay. That's gas residue so just. Fyi guys you know. Take it easy. Yeah we are clean. Chill your kids guys because like I know you guys are worried about it. But you've got to think about the people on the other end a non just us but like you said hairstylists any any service person touches. Pierre Concerned about their own well-being to for God's sakes don't even get started on the doctors and nurses. Yeah I mean they've just been gangbusters so I don't know it's going to be interesting. It's GONNA be different. There is going to be. I think a we're going to see a lifestyle change in general like with a lot of things so this is what we're doing is going to last for a long time. Yeah it's not because what's going to happen is people are going to get out there. And they're going to get comfortable and then people are going to start getting sick again. Yeah of course because partially because the testing is so much better than it was so there's going to be a lot of people who test positive on. Frankly we've all been fucking cooped up so the first thing everyone's going to do is be like we drink and fuck okay. I'm just saying all the single people I told you this. I think there's going to be a running. Std's too because all these people that are so used to hooking up on like apps and like going out and meeting somebody in just fucking it out like they haven't they've been cooped up for six weeks thoroughgoing STD it up. Yeah you're right. Yep I'm glad I don't have to worry about that not not us. Nope we will be in our has meant suits. We'll be like giant condoms. We'll just yeah. Yeah exactly. I think that's very breathable material super breed in the flavored ones. Anyway so then what else are you talking about? I thought we were GonNA touch on a cross contamination. Yeah we should touch on that because that's always that's well that goes back to people not wanting to touch like chicken so. I think we had okay so last time we talked about like CEAC season how there's different variations of people that just in general just in life. I guess it doesn't have anything to do with the ex but then we've got some people that like they freak out they touch. Shrimp have to wash their hands. They touch the lettuce. They have to wash their hands. They touch. It's not just like I. Get the whole like slimy chicken thing plus Salmonella high. That's not a good thing it's gross but you don't we'll have to be a freak about it. You just need to be thinking. This is another thing that we do that. We're that we're very careful about in class is that we're not going to. Have you cut up chicken first and then throw a bunch of bunch of vegetables on your? Yeah that's just that is cross contamination guys and most people in any kitchen enviroment at your favorite like especially local places local restaurants places with real chefs in the kitchen. They backed how they're trained. They know that they're not doing that with your food. They weren't doing it with your food before they're not going to be doing it with your road now and again. If we were in the business of fucking killing people with Salmonella poisoning we would not be in business well and we've been in business for almost eleven years now you know. I would hope that that would say something but we get some of those people that panic and I think we might get more. Now what do you think you think it's more prominent? I mean yeah I think people are GonNa well again. I think we're going to get that dichotomy. I think we'RE GONNA get people coming to class with masks and gloves on. Yeah and then. We're going to get people who are we're here it's over. I don't have to do anything I want to quit. Glove discussion okay. Let's say you're come into our class. I'm using this as an example. Because it's something I know inside and out you're in your car you're worried about what's happening inside because we might be dirty air so you get out of your car and you put on your gloves and your mask and then you open our front door and then you sign in and then you touch the knives and then you touch the food and you saw the same fucking gloves on. I know I know so here I grew and I mean. That's that's the kind of the whole thing is so so. Here's what what I would say. Because we can't we can't afford to provide you provide every single person who comes to our masks or gloves on especially gloves because you would have to wear multiple pairs of gloves in a two hour class. You don't just wear one no take it off in your fucking safe now. Everything you touch. And here's the other thing that if you if you're going to bring your gloves and that's great. Bring your fucking gloves. Yeah but don't put them on until after you've washed your hands and you're getting ready to actually start class. Don't don't open the door with them. Dough to the bathroom. Go to the fucking bathroom. Don't don't do anything with those gloves until we say okay here we go. Here's my here's another favorite auto. Okay so everybody freaks out about. We're going to murder them with Salmonella poisoning and cross contamination. We go through a handwashing process at the beginning of class. There is a sink in the class. So you can wash your hands as many fucking times as you like my favorite two of my favorite things they will leave the sink and then immediately touch their hair. Yeah or get on their phone right but they're not worried about that. No no what the fuck. Yeah because we even say. Please put your hair up before before you washer hand. But then they don't but they don't and then they fuck with their hair. That's fucking disgusting. I hate it. Yeah hair hair. No because let's be honest. Has anyone taken a bite out of some food and you got a long fucking piece of hair and decide just. Does that make you my mom more food? Because I can't I can't boy coming out and then turn away. Yeah 'cause it's fucking discussing gross. Your cell phones are disgusting. Yeah everyone everyone's cell phones. Yeah and I've actually looking at these. Ub analyzers okay. So they're sanitized right then right for that moment in time right and then what are you? GonNa do with it. You're not ever GONNA use it again too. I just use a wipe. Wipe it down every once in a while. I mean that's all you can do. And then you know. It's a great habit to not touch your fucking face or put your fingers in your mouth flight. That's fucking disgusting. I just I don't do don't do that. I don't know I don't know if it's because we just. It's just one of those things that we've never done or because we worked in the food industry and people go batch it in the kitchen if you touch yourself after. He watched hands touch your soul. Well your your face your hair anything screws touch your food and then you eat it. And that's nasty and then you want pieces of my hair or particles or skin particles shit in your food. Yeah no literal literal literal literal. Let me know we could go? Down this fucking. We've we've gone down the rabbit hole. Yeah Yeah So. We are reopening the twelfth the twelfth. And I know that sort of you know. Then that kind of gives you this kind of date of when we do podcasts and stuff but it's okay are we have. I personally think at team in our city and our county who have worked so well together and have kept everyone so well informed about what's going on our mayor in Tulsa. I think he would like to lead the stay at home or or the shelter in place order on longer but the problem is all these little fucking towns around us can't wait to get back to Tulsa and so we're going to have people run all over the place and and our mayor doesn't feel that it's fair to all the businesses here to say. No you still have to be shut up when all these other people run all over the place right side note. Today is April thirtieth now not today today today the day. The podcast is coming out the day that people will be listening to. The podcast is Sunday right. It's Mother's Day so happy Mother's Day. Let's start yes it is. No mother stays the following week. Is it really yeah? Are You fucking kidding me? Now because I'm a mother you are a mother. Oh thank fucking God. Because I can't get my mom's fucking teapot in quicken. I got another. Wait Mind distraction that I got one more week. Date is no. I don't know what day it is. Maybe we talk about Mother's Day next time. Well okay. Well I mean a little bit. We'll say happy mother's Day in Shit but thank God. I really thought it was this week. Oh that say was much they really are not do you know that. Mother's Day in Mexico is always may ten. Yes I do. How did you know that because I tell you that no because Marie is Mexican? Oh that's where all my brother's girlfriend. Yeah we had this discussion last weekend at the House. Oh and she was like it's all she's like because we're like we were all all of us. Were like wait. What's next Mother's Day soon? When is it? We missed it? And she's like it's May tenth and I'm like I don't think it's May tenth and so we were all looking at it and she's like it's always may tenth in Mexico. Yes yeah when when I was married to a Mexican yes? My mother-in-law was always celebrated on May tenth regardless of whether that was the second Sunday in May or not is that what ours is always the second name it is a second Sunday in May. Yeah I don't know why. Well thank God. I didn't miss it and it's not this weekend otherwise I'd be fucked now but you know your mom does have a new. Ap and she made her so happy so happy she was like. Oh really. Oh my God yeah. He's like she was super excited. Yeah we're doing in our upcoming a facebook live online cook along and we're going to be doing this. I mean I've had a blast. I love doing them to. And frankly if you guys if you've missed if you missed them just go fucking back and watch him yeah. They're on the facebook. They're on facebook. Page and honestly like okay so we do it live so that you can ask if you're cooking along you can ask questions with us and I know there's a little delay but if you're if you're cooking it later and you have questions you can still ask us. We still know the fucking answer. You can still ask us on our facebook pay. You'll know the answer. Yes it's weird. We haven't gone anywhere. We're still here. Our brain has weirdly still in our head. Yeah don't tell my mom. She thinks mines fall now so anyway but yeah so we'll keep doing the facebook lives but we'll do them once we reopen. We'll just be doing one. It'll just be it will be because we started a Friday date night at the kitchen and it's been very well received people seem to love it so we are not taking any of those away. This is in addition to our Friday date night on a night that we don't have a class enrich him. Yeah so we'll do one Friday a month to keep doing this because we love it and it's so fun exempt and you guys seem to be enjoying it and we get so many people from like out of the state like yeah. We had a lot of law. In fact I didn't the woman that set the fire alarm off. Was she in Spill Nashville or South Carolina or somewhere over there. Yeah she was yeah. It was pretty funny so So Watch your Watch the smoke detectors in your house the next time that you start kicking yes because you never know what might have but thanks for listening to not a single four season three episode six. I hope it is at episode. We think it's episode episode six fucking close like with everyone. It's five or seven. We don't know I don't even know what day of the week. Yeah when is it? What is it nineteen fifty five? Yeah I don't know I don't know anyway. Thanks for listening. In case you didn't know where on iheartradio on apple podcast Google play spotify stitcher and you can find us on our very own. Website are very very. Yeah and then patriarch to. We talked about that a little bit and we've got our Patriot page and we've got our first Brenda. We need another another brand got another. We need a lot of bread-winning days and we'll give you all kinds of goodies when he signed shout out. Yeah stop and things. Yeah so we'll be back with another episode for season three. We're going to be wrapping it up pretty soon so that we can seize well. Yeah we're wrapping up the season so that everyone else we get back to get our shit together. Yeah yeah whatever that means whatever okay so stay. Fresh trash bags code. Nineteen better known as Corona virus has throughout the world symptoms of this respiratory disease may include fever cough and shortness of breath. These symptoms may show up to to fourteen days after exposure. If you are experiencing these symptoms and have come in contact with or are in an area with an ongoing outbreak. Please call a hotline and or consult a physician. Clean and disinfect high. Touch services for more information please visit CDC DOT GOV SLASH COVERT? Nineteen thank you.

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URGENT!! I Need Your Help to Save Brenda Jones Life | COVID-19 Patient Currently Being Denied Proven Life-Saving Therapy (Budesonide)

Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

04:20 min | 7 months ago

URGENT!! I Need Your Help to Save Brenda Jones Life | COVID-19 Patient Currently Being Denied Proven Life-Saving Therapy (Budesonide)

"All right thrive nation on today's show. It's it's a serious show and a show where I need your help. I know there's a half million of you out to listen to this show and each and every show we have on the phone right now. A man whose husband. Picture what it would be like right now, folks to have your wife. In, a hospital with any kind of disease, any sort of illness and the you as a husband are being prevented from being able to treat your wife with known treatments and cures because. Of political reasons imagine that you are actually trying to save your wife from a terminal. The hospital saying is terminal. When you in fact, know there is a proven treatment. Imagine the frustration folks and I need everybody out there to please share this story with as many people as you possibly can. Richard? Jones. Welcome to the thrive time show. Thank you. Sir, where do you live? Kgo Desa Texas Odessa. Texas and. How long have you been married? Nine years and what is your? What is your wife's name? Brinda Linda okay. So so Linda, your wife Linda is Brenda Brenda with a beep Brinda ratio. Would it be? Okay. So Brenda Jones is currently in the hospital hospital she in. Medical Center Hospital. Odessa Medical Center Hospital of desks I've never met you. We've never spoken before. Dr Richard Bartlett is my friend He's a medical doctor in Texas, a former top medical adviser for the governor of Texas Rick Perry. So again, Dr Richard Bartlett my friend is a former top medical adviser for the governor of Texas Rick Perry for seven consecutive years. He's treated over one thousand patients with zero deaths with beauty. And I understand that the hospital will not let your wife take as this true. Correct or they refuse to give it to tell me I. Do not have the right to order that for her. They say that because I do not have a medical degree and I work for their hospital did I do not have a say. I say, that's wrong. The President says I've got the right to try. Why am I being denied? Who specifically told you that you're not allowed to? Get your wife. The Destination Protocol that has been shown to work one hundred percent of the time. The on duty nurse. This morning at three Am told me that I would not be able to do it because I don't work for their hospital and I'm not a doctor. Can you get your wife? Right to say, can you get your wife out of there? Can we do another hospital or where we at? Sir. I don't know. I have I'm glad broke I was laid off due to covert. Now I've got covert myself I can't even leave my bedroom to go get something to eat. They diagnosed me with Kobe me home to die no medication nothing. They've got my wife heals wants to move treatment with what I know about savor life. Okay and you are in a hospital in. Again. She's in a hospital in what city sir. Odessa desktop Texas. Okay and is it okay if I give out your phone number so that way elected officials can reach out to you. You believe. Okay. So if you're listening right now and you have the capacity and the ability to speak with Richard Jones and to help Richard Jones to help to help him save his wife, call this number or Texas Affect folks text this number if you have the capacity and you want to set up a conversation with Richard Jones, this is my top priority today I'm going to do if you have the capacity to change things, you're an elected official you can share the truth please text. Richard Right now at four three to. Five two eight three seven, seven, one, four, three to five, two, eight, three, seven, seven, one, give one more time for three to five, two, eight, three, seven, seven, one. Richard I'm GonNa do everything I possibly can to help save your wife. She's my mission. I'M GONNA. Make it happen okay sir. Thank you sir take, care?

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He Said, She Said with Ashley Spivey - Episode 25

Reality Steve Podcast

2:17:22 hr | 1 year ago

He Said, She Said with Ashley Spivey - Episode 25

"What's up everybody welcome? Welcome to the. He said she said. podcast this episode number twenty five. This'll be the last one of twenty nineteen. I'm your host reality. Steve as always joined joined by Ashley. Spivey Ashley how are you. I'm pretty great. How are you good? How is the Are you getting ready for the Christmas. This season is Christmas. Big For you. Do you like Christmas or you think it's too commercialized. Now we like Christmas Eve the better than Christmas like we have a bunch of traditions that we do on Christmas Eve. Some more of a Christian disease type the Gal I guess something that I noticed we have. We have one call today that you're going to get a kick out of because it just goes in a direction that I guarantee none of you are thinking it goes and then we're going to answer your emails That Ashley and I had put out an instagram story to send us any emails. You have relationship regarding relationship stuff or whatever We're going to answer some of those as well however One thing that you did last week Ashley that was that I got a kick out of what you were asking people to send in their cheating cheating stories on her instagram. My God how were those stories. There were hundred. I did not put up because I just one I. I could have gone for like three days just posting these cheating stories and like even some of them were too long to fit in the little box so people were just sending medium. I mean it was an Sane what what made you what mansion you it so the reason I started thinking about it was because has of the apology Justin Timberlake and just about like cheating in general and just like how it can be so public and just just got me thinking forget about it. I have some pretty crazy. I have some crazy cheating stories so I put mine up and then I was just like who else wants despair. There is and I think like the craziest one that I actually did not put up in a don't remember. Why don't put it up but a Grad that her boy friends they're not chat of ham hooking up with his cousin so it was a video joe of him having sex with his cousin and he he said it to his girlfriend accidentally? I guess but I'm just just like was he trying to send that to probably the other cousin I mean if he's screwing his cousin he obviously has some issues Probably send to those other cousin and like. Hey look what I'm doing I mean what's funny is I read a lot of those and then something came out. I don't know what causes it but I read it the other day. It was like two days ago it came out and this was a funny one where somebody talked about a cheating story that they had and I thought it was like ingenious. How she caught him? If that's the word ingenious she said that and this is actually somebody that Used to work here in Dallas on radio and she actually works for the NFL network. Now she's a reporter for the NFL Network for whatever reason. I don't know why she told this story on twitter. Maybe it had to do with the Justin Timberlake but share this on twitter and said I will. Yes this. This is exactly what you're out because I read hers and this is like what kind of started eh but started. It was Justin Timberlake. Okay yeah and so for those. That haven't heard the story. She admitted that her and her boyfriend both got fit bits and and it held them a- It they used it for accountability and for each of them to you know work on their weight and work out together and whatever so she could sign in and log again on a computer or on her iphone. Any point and check out her. You know not only her what she's doing on her fitbit but when her boyfriend was doing on her fifth I bet and she's like yeah I found out He had some. He had some of his fitbit levels spiking at four in the morning and spoiler alert. He wasn't taking an orange theory reclassified for the morning. So that's how she caught him. She knew he was having sex with somebody else at four in the morning. The what this whole thing has led me to believe is just technology has really made us monsters third. I mean they're just so many ways now that you can get caught and people are just so oblivious to it or they just don't care I don't know which one it is but some of the things I was satisfied ones like people finding out their parents cheating on each other. Well that's the amazing thing is that with. It's so much easier to get caught now. So this is cheating just started in the early two thousands when this took it to go up so in the seventies and eighties. It probably means that so many more people were getting away with cheating back then had ah because it was just harder to get caught back. Then you couldn't. There was no social media to bust you but Jeez yeah that was so when I read those and then I saw that story from her name is Jane Jane Slater I believe from the NFL network and she told that story and I was like wow. The Justin timberlake thing thing was really. It's a hell of an apology to give. When you were caught you know being drunk and Hansie with with a girl who obviously didn't seem to mind it's not like he was all over her and she was pushing away or anything like that but you could tell just by being who he is and the fact the pictures got out? That was quite an apology that he that he made but I mean I respect them for for coming out and saying something because he easily could have just never said a word and the only images people had were. Those pictures have been like and drawing their own conclusions. Like oh bullshit. He didn't you know he totally slept with her. Or whatever I mean many people might still think that anyway but you know it was a hell of an apology. Though for for for what he was caught doing. It's not like he was caught leaving the the The lobby of a hotel at six in the morning with another woman or she she was seen leaving his room doing the walk. Shame like it was. I could tell by the pictures it was. I don't know maybe I'm maybe I'm cutting Justin Timberlake too much slack. And didn't think he'd be Jessica Biel but I don't know yeah. I think this is not at all the excusing him. What I'm saying but he was very wrong so I don't think he even like new what he was doing but like even to like just be that flirty makes me think that first time he's got good that way in public and especially if you're like dot comfortable trouble getting drunk in public after salambere pretty like what like I don't know and two? I think that he did it because the studio is probably like you've got to do some damage control. 'cause we don't want this to be the only thing people talk about when this movie comes out that's right because it's his Co.. Sorry the movie every every press junket they do people are going to bring it up like hey now. They're not GONNA be well. They're not gonna be allowed to now because it'll just ruin the whole press tour of this of this movie but you know I mean the other thing is it's just the fact that it's a celebrity and we've seen how many times comes in the celebrity world people cheat like I it's I. I know that people have this idea in their heads of certain people would never cheat. And Oh my God. Justin would never cheat on Jessica or whatever but you can't you can't you can't say he would never just because you like Justin. You just can't it's this is Hollywood. This is what what these people do. Justin has access to women in every city. He goes to whenever he wants it. So you have to be under the assumption that he's turned it down for the last hour years. BEEN MARRIED TO JESSICA. I don't know six seven eight years. I've been married if you WANNA believe that. He's turned it down every single. Where every single place places gone you can? I don't know if I would have. I can't say that he has said that he hasn't either. I know you know how celebrities work in Hollywood. And it's someone as popular as just infrequent timberlake. This guy can get it wherever whenever he wants it and whenever he wants it in whatever city he's then and the guy travels he does tours. He's just doesn't go on every city tour when he goes on A. You know thirty forty city tour. You know I think something like kind of important to remember about dozen Timberlake to that he really kinda built his career on Shaming Britney Spears ears for cheating on him with the whole Crimea River and things like that and he really let Janet Jackson go down in flames and he kind of came out looking fine during that whole all super bowl fiasco so I don't know if doesn't Timberlake is the angel. We all think here after all this. No I certainly don't think he is and But I can't say what he did with this girl is was it just a drunk thing and he's being handy or was it a little little bit more serious. I don't know but you know you'd be ignorant to just immediately. Dismiss it just because you love his music or or you. Just don't think the Justin would ever cheat on Jessica. That's just ignorant to say that. With celebrity couples you literally have to say it is a possibility for every single one of them because of who they are and because wherever they go there are people out there that want to sleep with them. And you don't know you just don't know how these people are behind closed doors course. Nobody does so anyway -actly so we got a call like we got a caller and we got an email and then we got emails to answer our our first caller is actually someone that called us before in the past who wanted to date someone without children because she doesn't want to have children so she just wants to childless date. This is something different. This is something that happened to over Thanksgiving which is just one of the more bizarre stories you'll ever hear. But she's also somebody buddy that when Ashley was doing the clear the lists campaign back at the beginning of the school year in September. This is somebody that I actually helped out and cleared her list for her. And now after your story. Today's podcast cleared the lists for. I don't want to give it away but but When you hear the story I cleared her students list? Okay just keep that in mind and now I don't know if I regret the way but I think I wanna tell the story she told but you help give them for. Sat Books and fifty not at her students have gotten the sat score. They needed to get into the universities. They want to go to so I think that's pretty cool but also funny when you hear this Kgo eight so I'm glad they did well on their sat's and the past and got the scores. They needed to get into you. Know Miami Florida State or Florida or UCF or FAU or if they wanted to go down there but yeah yeah one of these guys in particular. Really I'm shocked that he that he you got the score that he needed. But anyway you'll you'll hear it and then we'll answer emails after that so exactly all right. We don't have ruined too much. We don't have a spoiler you know we don't WanNa spoil too much So let's just let's get right into it. Let's bring her on. This is Katie in Florida Katie. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys good? Before are we get started with you. Katie let's remind listeners. I was GONNA say viewers remind listeners. That that you were on a previous call. I couldn't tell you which episode it was but it wasn't like too long ago I think people will remember the fact that you called us and said you were having trouble dating because you have decided that you do not want kids and you don't know at what point point to bring that up to people and we were starting to Google dating sites for people that don't want kids and we were giving you all these websites to go through so first off before we get started on your current situation. Let us know how that's gone. Since you last spoke with us very interesting resting. I ended up trying some decides that we talked about had literally like the most hilarious. I don't know I think maybe we talked in April or May before my brother's wedding and it was the most hilarious like three months adventure of my life because I mean Online dating you don't really know what you're getting anyway but I don't know people that don't like kids like they're very we're like It's it was. It was weird but it was fun adventure for my family too good to makes fun of and tell me that I'm going to be alone forever. No it's I mean in. My family thinks that since I'm going to be twenty eight that a lost cause at this point but I started posting about lie. My child is dating adventure. Insurers on facebook and A Guy that I went to university with who I mean I kind of like liked back previously but I I thought he wanted kids. He actually has come to visit me a couple of times and he's like it doesn't bother me that you don't want kids but he's like real love of God. Please get off of these websites. And he's like these are scary stories. We'll see where it goes but The underworld child is dating. I I don't know that I would recommend it to I mean so. What is the deal with these guys? What happened unlike in Ju I'm missy never took off with anybody? Did you ever go on more than I don't know two or three dates with anybody or these all just like you met him once. And you're like good God the next I yeah I would like meet them once. It was a good God. Yeah and Probably the most memorable one is a god. This guy says he didn't want kids but he failed to mentioned that he didn't want any more kids and I went on the date and he brought his seven seven children with him. He was like we're looking for a mom ooh world and he's like well you never said that he's like you never said you weren't okay with your spouse having kids a- and I'm like no like the website is called like dating without children dot com like this means that you don't have a basketball team then a half come with if you want to date it's like no this is not right and I know it's a it stuff like that and I'm just oh no I mean a seven kids. How old is how old was he must have been somewhat older? GotTa be in his forties right with seven kids now. He was in his thirties which was even more frightening and I just saw it like were you part of. What's the word English like a commune or like a cold or something? Just you know Started popping out these kids and I mean here's the thing. My Dad is a long sixteen like God. Bless my grandmother. Because I don't think that I would ever want that the position in life and it's possible for people to have seven kids in their thirties. But that makes me like we'll do bit nauseous. That is a lot to spring on somebody. I ate too like. Hey here's my whole clan. It's like what I was so crazy. I just said to me and then people say like Oh. You're a teacher. You should love kids. No no no no no. I teach eighteen year olds. I don't have to kids if I don't want to teach adults did like the kids top. Do you like we be our mommy. Yes they were like interviewing needs to be their mom and it was so strange. Like I'm just like our vagary to you know. Put core on my face and stuff in the trunk like onto going because it doesn't feel does does not feel good and I don't know it's it was a strange journey ahead. People ask me if like I was for sale sale. And that's why I came to United States like you know the typical like Russian stereotypes off One Guy I just had like a pig farm and unlike do you cook them because like I'm not okay with that he's like well yes they're bacon and make money. I'm like Oh my kids. These peaks are my kids. My Oh no it doesn't. It was good so anyway update is everybody should kids. Maybe like go someplace in public. They don't go along for them. So all right well Let's see if your story right now. What you currently are calling about is any any better than that So tell us what your situation is. So this is A Song Ashley's in the guys looking. SUPERFUND thanksgiving story is and it is may top anything. I've ever had to go through in my life. It's so like traumatizing traumatizing but So I'm a high school teacher and I need to practice with that. I teach juniors and seniors so they are between seventeen and nineteen years old depending on when there birthdays are so. My family doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving. Typically because they aren't from the United States dates and they don't really understand what the purposes of celebrating it. It's so I was just going to spend my thanksgiving wake here And you know just use the time off work to relax well Intel. I did a knock on my door from my whole family showing up to surprise Mia area and I'm like Oh God what the hell you know because can't call me I so they all came down to visit me and the Guy I was telling you guys about they come down a couple of times. He was already down here visiting. And he's like Oh great. Your whole family's here He hasn't met my family because my family is a little bit off though on. I have my mom my dad my aunts my uncles my brother or sister in law and my cousin is just turned eighteen and she brought a boyfriend with her and nobody has ever met this guy besides her parents. My aunt uncle and this guy is the strangest fucker I've ever met in my life like I did not want him in my house. I did not want him. Like in my space He's eight hang and he says his like in the CIA. Eh has security clearance. And I'm just like no you don't you're so full of Shit and we're sitting at dinner one night and he goes my uncle and like starts on bawling his eyes outlet crying profusely. He's like I just love you so much that and he's been dating my cousin for maybe a month so like four weeks. He's crying on my uncle's shoulder and I'm just like I told my cousin. I pulled her aside and I said I'll know who this like to pump jump is but I don't want him in my space. I don't want him in my house. He needs to be on his way. Does she sends him. She gets a plane ticket for him. Stinson back to North Carolina where his family is so issue got rhythm quickly but then she was depressed kicked her boyfriend got his thanksgiving. And like I don't know get on tinder or something like find somebody else to entertain you and so I guess she does but yeah I probably should not have been pending out by eighteen year old cousin to it's crazy people people but she was being home. You know teenagers get not when they don't have their boyfriends around and So my house his small so my family. Everybody stayed at a hotel but my house has one of those key pads on the front door to get in and said anything actual team and I was out to dinner with the guy. I'm dating one night and I get a notification. Hang on my phone that my door unlocked and I was like what the hell like somebody in my house house and so I called like my mom dad. My brother I said somebody at my house and they said No. We're all at the hotel right now and psych. Okay okay. So I'm just kind of nervous going homing I told the guy was with. I said you know I I. I'm going to have to get best ball bat my gun something because I'm afraid of somebody in my house and I don't want to be like attack my walk inside and he's like like okay like whatever and so we go inside and there's been stuff moved around inside the House and I'm like Oh my gosh like this the time. This is what I've been waiting for somebody to break in and like tried to rob me of everything I have and I hear noises upstairs in my room. I'm like what is this. What is this and so I go upstairs? And I'm sorry to anybody listening who his anti-gun but I'm a female who lives by myself and the slums of Florida. So like I have one so I go upstairs like quietly saying I have my dying out in front of me. Open my bedroom door and my baby is having sex wchs with one of my students one of my students and I was just like Oh my God just like I see everything and I'm like what the fuck are you doing in my house and he's like Miss. You need to put down the gun like what are you doing. Yeah my you're naked on top of my husband when you do it and he's like well. We met on tinder. I didn't know she was your cousin and I'm Mike. Oh my God oh my God like get out of my house get my house like through blank and on top of them the guy with cannot stop laughing. He thinks it's hysterical circle thing over and I'm like Ooh I saw I saw balls. I saw as everything everything. We've all seen him. God I have to face this child that parts of the fact that it was one of the students I guess is it's awkward. It was so bad and I'm like my house and he said I thought that you were joking when you said that you're always watching so you have a gun and I'm like no I'm not no get out. Get off my house. And he's like well my clothes downstairs in your living room and I'm like Oh my God. It was even worse because they were in my bed in my bedroom and so I have to bring my mattress now. I have not slept on it since the way I see him at school. A He's told everybody like MS has a gun. She held it. She was holding it out like together other for house. And I'm like listen pal. I'm trying to enjoy a lovely Thanksgiving with my family and I walk in and the only meet that I am disturbed over. Thanksgiving is seeing your why. This is so bad vowed it was on Thanksgiving night that this happened. Yes I thought okay. I was just thought it was that weekend but oh Geez okay in what I don't know what are the odds of total douchebag. So of course you would go for him but why are they going to continue seeing each other talking to each other. Well here's the big dilemma is She called me. What's Thanksgiving was two weeks ago? She called me beginning of last week. She's like Hey You know we didn't use any protection action so I don't know what to say and I was like great great like he could have a CD or you could be carrying his child. And I I know everything about his background like he's playing in Juvie twice already for selling drugs like what's what's are you. Where are you going going to do? And she's like oh he was really sweet so I think everything will be fine neuro. No no no no no. It's not going to be I I have. PTSD now and teach them at school and everybody keeps wondering why I get bike. -greeing during class. Now it's like well because I've seen this kid naked. I had to hold onto white. I don't I just but yet like happy thanksgiving. Yeah the the odds of her going on tinder and pulling a teenager. That happens to be one of your students students. I mean you can only imagine what those odds are but and then the fact that you walked in on them they were in the act. Yeah that's pretty embarrassing and it's probably a little bit. How was your gun? Loaded like ready to shoot somebody. Yes I ah. Here's like I know. I sound a little bit crazy but You know I live by myself and whenever people are like. Oh you're not gonNA shoot somebody like Mike Somebody try me because I'm ready at any moment. Like Brenda's right next to me all the time like she was out she was ready because I saw that stuff of the move around my house. So He's lucky to. I mean he still has everything intact because his his odds weren't looking good for for a moment so I don't know butts and this is probably not as dramatic as some people's Thanksgiving but I don't know I feel pretty from the size of I. Guess I guess this confirms that tenders a hookup APP. I mean he got her that night it seems like and he was already having sex with her so we go tender. Look Yeah well and I sat here and she said Oh she says your advice to me you has always been. She's like to get over somebody you have to get under. Somebody and I was like I meant that for like when you're in your twenties not when you're eighteen it's need and having sex with one of my students. I didn't mean that right this second and in college when I said that so from that success. She didn't know that he was. She couldn't have known that he was one of your students did she or he or she did and didn't care now. She had no idea she said you know. We talked about the fact that we are both in high school but she said I didn't say like Oh who's your teacher and yeah now I get that but I mean she had to. She had the nerve to ask if he can stay the night though. Roll number. Not No you cannot stay the night. I'm I'm you guys have already you know ruined my mattress and ruins the vibe of my my break and also I mean he cannot stay tonight but you tell your uncle about it. Oh man she was like so. My cousin is despite being ten years younger than me. She's six foot two and could like take somebody out so easily and she's like swear to God Utah. You tell my parents and I said I won't tell your parents but I'm telling grandma because grandma will will take her view and she's like you'll you can't. You can't tell anybody but yeah I I don't know if she's pregnant growing both of them under the bus though. That's for sure to her family. Oy But she'd be better off with the psycho. She brought originally to be honest but so here. Here's here's something interesting. Go ahead oh no just to say I thought for some reason this is going to be like family issues and and this was so much this is so much better. Well one it one thing about the story that you kind of mentioned in it and then it got me thinking because when you call this last time. I don't believe you ever mentioned anything about you had to do you kind of glossed over the fact that you are currently are dating somebody even though we had gone through the whole childless dating thing. Did we know this last time. Did you tell us last time. So now you have to update us on. WHO's guy that you're dating because that was your original call back in April or may you? You were what the facebook guy was the facebook guy. Yeah yeah he's a guy. I went to university with and he was paying attention to all. My child was dating Poche. We're seeing him I I didn't yeah. He's been down to visit me a couple of times and God bless him because he has a normal family and he's he's been around two very uncomfortable family situations with me now twice and this one. He's like this one takes the cake and he's like if we get married. I'm GonNa talk about this long or wedding. I'm like like no. You're you're not going to talk about me. Seeing this is fun. This is so he's like instant that year. Actually your phone cut out there. Would you say he seems serious about you he does. That's a little bit scary to me but you know I guess I'll get over. Well he mentioned he mentioned. If you guys get married you talk about it. After the wedding the best part would be if you do get married and your cousin brings your student as her date. That would be even better. My cousin brains. My students as her day. It's thing you better believe Brenda's it does GONNA be In an ankle holster underneath my dress. Because that's the name of your gun. Brenda Brenda Brenda's my gun. So I mean I is the fact that Oh my gosh. No I can't because because it's one thing if they were just dating but I I saw the depraved to not to like I haven't been around the block many at times but whatever ever they were doing it was like some some shit. I Never WanNa see again like you know. What were they doing? They were having sex she was. She's like freakishly flexible. And I don't know whatever position he was kind of looked like bike. Captain Borgen so you could like his leg was up. You could see everything I could see clear out my cousins asshole like it was so bad I I mean I just like ball swinging and I just wanted to cry myself to sleep so you walked in from beautiful wherever it was the the angle that you saw was from behind him. Yes okay to say but like my favorite phrases that have ever been uttered on this podcast. How come from you and that our I could see straight into my cousins after the magic magic right here I was going to say Katie? Katie is our resident comedian. Who comes out like we don't ever have funny calls? It's very much on this show Usually pretty serious stuff but katy's come to that are just She's just got some stories for us That's that's great. I'm sorry you had to witness your cousins insides. You guys were laughing just as much as is as I don't know call him boyfriend but he's every day like hey have you seen you know John Doe in in class today. I just WanNa be like honestly like Oh fuck yourself like if you if you had to choose between weird. CIA CRY boy or student. Who would you pick for your cousin? Why God honestly a walk on the wild side with Satan himself would rather than either one of them their choice? Yeah I mean 'cause crybaby like God I mean he just like just like wanted to make fun. I did make fun of him the whole time and he just like cried like a little bitch so I don't like like that at all and then my student though like I've taught him for two years I know way too much like iming now now you don't even know what is ball's like no everybody he's like never saw my my and I'm like listen. I don't WanNa talk about it at Johnnie like stop telling people down he's like she was going to shoot my boss on like you know what you're lucky you still tablets be honest like can we stop talking about during is it. Is it weird that this guy is sharing that like to the class. Like he's told the other classmate I I don't know to me. If I were him. That would have been the most one of the most embarrassing things positions. He probably ever be caught in. Why why would he go? And tell the rest of the class like Mrs so and so caught me banging her cousin and walked in on us in that hilarious everyone like why is he telling everybody everybody. Just keep it to yourself dude. No one would think that. But let me tell you guys these kids have no boundaries on to give you a little background about my type of students instead. I have before Thanksgiving break. I've seen too many dicks in such a short amount of time that our dicks don't want to see and I had a student during class and all of a sudden there is a huge circle around him and I'm like what's going on back there. This kid was Oh God. He was watching. Sonic the HEDGEHOG. I think that's what it's called a hedgehog. Dick out jerking off to song during class and everybody was watching so oh like a clearly clearly. We'll jerk off to sonic like nobody cares about sharing their. He's drinking courtroom. Yes and I had to call his parents and I'm like there's a community for him. It's called the freeze like you should probably join one of those communities. Like not like a or if he's GonNa jerk off during class at least watch something I'll have to have nightmares avowed like how about some nice girl. Girls some important something not that song is like did. y'All y'all ever seen that true life at. I'm a furry yes because they have a huge community in the mid West and one of my friends was like we have to go just once and I'm like I'm not going on that adventure with you but feel free to let me know all how it goes. What is so just like disturbing things I've ever won? It's bad it's scary without without knowing what what it is but listening to your stories a furry is somebody that what gets off to cartoons. Is that what it would be. Imagine being turned on by like giant animals like teddy bears and furry corns. And maybe Japan's there or something like this so why I mean I know you. I know you teach like troubled kids or the whatever but still. What what motivates him or even the rest of like if that's what he wants to do who in class okay? Maybe he's just a little off but to say. Hey everybody gather round watch me do it and they all agree like what did did they get out of this or why were they all surrounding him so he could jerk off to sonic the hedgehog. Sonic the HEDGEHOG. I don't understand his thinking and why everyone else joined. We did to watch and form the circle. It was it was so I had to send my God. Bless my aid. He's GonNa be getting a large sum of money from me at the end of the school year because I was like you have to go in there and stop it and I said I am not going to do it and I said you're a guy he's a guy maybe he'll listen to you and and he like it was a very large circle. It my student aid came out the circle and he was like this. He's not even doing it right. And I said what do you coming out. Because it's song and he said no his fingers are like facing out not like around and he's like it's kind of just like a poem an China and like if you see what to do with your hands like fake it like make be be with your hair and his the other way white pom pom pom contemplated like you. Okay out like a deer. Yeah other way in this way. Yeah he was doing that with his hands out like that and my soon it's like she's not even doing it right. He's not doing it right because yeah don't worry I can't even simulated stay. That makes me makes me feel better about everyone watching kind of because they were all because they were all laughing at him. Like what the hell are you doing this this way dude. What's your problem team? It seems less sexual that way. It's more like Whoa. That guy like really doesn't know what he's do you know what I mean. And that's what he's GonNa do but he's also jerky correctly. Yeah I mean I don't remember was no not November so maybe he was trying really hard to keep up with his of like goal. And maybe that would I don't I don't no I didn't ask. No Nut November for November is when you are not allowed to well I teach mostly boys and they came and then on November first and they said having no nut November which means no Jack Relations until December first and. I'm like that's beautiful. Thank you for telling me I know they just made it up on their own. Your own your class made you teach some of them. Czar kids ever heard in my life. I call that a journey because it started out so just just we've gone in so many different directions. But okay see creeds write a blog so this isn't this isn't a national holiday. That were there seems used to be a new national holiday or like today's like International Doughnut Day and then National Dog Day. This isn't one of those. This is something classmate up right I. I have no audio because they asked if going to participate with them man November. Let me see if this is the thing. Hold on let me Google yeah. It's it's a thing I don't know it just Kinda came out of nowhere for me to hear about it. I know should we all Baz like who's doing saying that. Okay no it's it's apparently a thing It's an Internet He blamed painting. It's an internet challenge. Alan Jr in which participants abstained masturbating. Or having an orgasm during the month of November but why why like let me tell oh you. By the time the Thanksgiving break rolled around. I was the last week of November. It was scary in my classroom. You guys all seem like you're carrying some very a heavy blue balls and like you just need to like the sexual frustration. You could like with a knife and I'm like why would somebody participate. Paid in this especially a high schooler like. I don't know it made them smell worse and made them act worse. I don't know it was. It's not my favorite month. Okay yeah sounds like this sounds like a high school internet sensation that you know certain people like actually took on or whatever can took on a life of its own but yeah I guess I guess it is a thing I had never heard of this one. Sounds like something highschoolers do and there is you know because it's November because that's the only month that starts the end so you got the alliteration thing. Go in there. I mean I whatever I mean well laboratory nuts but I mean that's going to the office for that month it was just. I don't know if my students that had sex with my cousin broke his November packed. And I made sure until everybody knows that like listen. Johnny over here had a stick of butter my bed with a candle and my cousin so it doesn't hold up to their end of the bar so I mean Yeah No. That's that's that's right that he technically broke his if he was part of that whole group. That said we're going to be we're going to do this. No Not November He didn't win. That bet. P lost. Yeah Yeah I mean yeah his cell this streak guy broken rather quickly and I mean unfortunately I had to see the aftermath. Your massive add slow. November wasn't a good. I tell you that I'm just very happy. I hope December goes a better for you. Katie because that was a horrible ending to you to your month for you but thank you again for sharing your story with us. This was great. This was a lot of fun fun. Fun Phone Call. I'll egg lovely. Yes yeah I feel bad. Everybody has very serious calls. Yeah it's okay artless. It's it's it's perfectly fine to not to not have a serious call once in a while we're fine with it makes me feel rather because I feel like I'm off my rocker. Sometimes letting everybody else is serious thing. It's like I'm overhearing candy. Land just well. If I had students like that I probably I. I don't think anybody blames you for having suited for that jerking off to sonic the hedgehog in the back of the room and meeting with your cousin anyway. Yeah that's why we'll thank you Katie. I appreciate it I know. Actually you love it. Thank you so much for coming on cater. Really appreciate Ed. Thanks guys you got all right. Thank you Katie for that Man Like we said that every went and seventeen different directions and just so bizarre that an unfortunate that that happened with Katie. I can't imagine if you're a teacher even a high school teacher. Heroin high school teachers there are in this world. Have seen one of their students penises. It's probably not a common occurrence. Let alone see your students having sex with one of your relatives you know I mean I'm not great at statistic that I'd really love to see the odds what they are for like something like that happening. That's pretty crazy. I feel like that's something where we can do. A poll and literally no one would like. Yeah that's happened to me. One hundred zero of hey have I mean. The poll question would be something along the lines of if if you're a teacher. Have you ever had a student date one. Have you ever had one of your students date a younger sister or a cousin or relative I get that would be the. I guess that would have to be the question and maybe you get one. I just don't see that happening. Very often. Held just even matching up on tinder. Whatever whatever it was whatever dating site was was it? Tinder that she said can't even remember. Okay Yeah just the fact that they matched and and that her cousin. It's not like it sounded like she was like she literally matched the first night. That's just so bizarre but not the greatest endorsement for tender under that and to shed the stereotype that tinder is just a hookup APP. No it looks like it might be Uh but anyway Thanks to Katie. For that she's She's a second time caller and always entertaining to say the least. So maybe we'll love Katie on like every six months because some social story at some point that happens to her in the next six months to make a blog oh interesting and now that yeah then. She's dating when she's dating now the guy that A guy that told her not to post stuff about what. Which isn't the guy that she's dating someone that on facebook saw her post and said wow you really have some interesting dating stories and now I'm and I'm sure that yeah I'm saying six months? Let's see if she's still dating that guy and if they have any stories together so and we're going to do something different for the last podcast of the twenty nineteen calendar year. And that is. We're going to take your questions and Ashley Ashley. He put out a post on instagram. Asking you all if you had any questions for us and this became very interesting because a lot of you thought she was asking about questions and for her and Steve Her husband Steve Married. It was like she had to it. Yeah so you got you got a lot of questions about Children Marriage how we met. Yeah but now to answer how we met. Yeah we can answer that. One can't answer any marriage questions about Ashley an eye But it was funny when actually sent me some of the questions that she received and you can tell that some of them were like. Oh I thought this was or you know I'm looking at it like Oh yeah this person thought you were asking about. Hey asked me and my husband Steve Questions so let's just get Let's we're GONNA to answer questions for however long it takes to get through some of these Ashley's got the questions ready to go and we'll kind of go from there so actually go go ahead. Just let star unreal off. Well the first one was. What were your first impressions of each other? What can we go back to when we first met? Yeah so so you and I first met at Michelle Money's charity event. I mean could you. Could you remember what year this was. Thousand Twelve thousand twelve twelve. Oh yes the only reason that I know that is because Steve was with me and it was the first year we started dating. Okay that's right and it was in It was in la. We're Michelle. I think two years in a row did this because I remember. I went to at the next next year's well but that was the first year I went to it. It was in L. A.. There were a lot of bachelor people there and I saw. You were my first impressions. Actually it was very tiny very those one. I mean I I knew they. I don't know if I give some sort of a price and then I'm going to be like all or whatever but I never thought you were. I never thought you were tall. Oh and I was like wow. She's tiny I just. You're just a tiny person. You're you're very Very small very small. uh-huh I'm trying to Remem- I'm I'm trying to put myself back in two thousand twelve. It's hard to it's hard to say I DEF- I I. I definitely thought you were prettier in person than in On TV not that. I thought again not that I thought like you were. I'm sure you've got that right. People are like wow. You're so much prettier in person. But that doesn't mean that. I thought you were ugly. TV It just means that tea can only do so much I also thought you look different in person than what you had on TV. And maybe maybe at that event it was remembered you. How do you remember how long ago after that? After your season aired that that event took place. That was two years and I really think everyone who goes on the show like once you see a yourself on. TV You're just like okay changing this and this and doing this. I think I didn't love like my haircut. Our why Maybe it's time for both hawks like little things like that in. It is really funny to like look at people when they I wanted to show. Oh and then look at them now because a lot of people do look very different. EVENSON JASON MAZANEC season. I mean it's insane. It wasn't it WHO's a year before mine are two years before mine and like so many things changed in terms of like eyebrows or like Tan I thought Oh yeah you know I've seen. I haven't gone back and watched it on Netflix. But as we talked about in my podcast this week it's Jason Resnick season was released based on Net flicks and one question that never got to on Thursday. And I and I don't have an answer for you but it's been the most. Ask question to me. Since Jason Mazanec like season has come out. A lot of people seem to care about Stephanie Hogan and what happened with her she was a single mother who I believe finished. Fifth got eliminated right before hometown dates. Jason I think reasoning was. I just think you should go be with your. I think she had a daughter I've asked three people from Jason Season. Hey I've been asked about Stephanie. Hogan have you guys heard of her. Did she get remarried. That's been the biggest question I've got. Did Stephanie ever get remarried. I feel so bad for her watching her his season back and unfortunately unfortunately. I don't have an answer for you because three women that I've asked from Jason Season none of them know what happened to seventy again. They're like she's not on social media. We kind of lost touch years ago and and I was like. Do you know anybody that would know they're like no like so I don't have. I have no idea what happened with Stephanie. Maybe or maybe they just asked three of the wrong people. Maybe there's other people. I'm from her season. That do keep in touch with her but Someone listening yeah. Does anybody know. Stephanie Hogan Anybody is anybody friends or know somebody who does is no her like if she's still in the south did she remarry. I have no idea I asked. I just was able to get an answer for you. Sorry but yeah yeah. No you're right. There's so many people that God you go back three years. I think cassie looks way different than she did on Colton season. That was the fucking year-ago any either she. It looks so much better than she did. On Colton season and again not that I thought cassie was ugly by any means. CASSIE was one of the better looking women on Colton season. But I think now so like you said you see yourself on TV and you want to do whatever they what do they call it. Glam up was at the new thing the Glam up now. Glow glow up. Yeah you do a glow I think I think maybe I don't know but then it it you know what it's not just like people being self critical. UC comments on social media too. So I think that's one thing like this is something I I wouldn't. I would never even make fun of her about because she spoke at length about her having a health condition but I get seriously angry angry whenever I see people talk about like carly's eyebrows and things like that or whenever you see people talking about Katie's nose or just I cannot. I believe that in two thousand nineteen people still think. It's okay to just say things like that online. It's so bizarre. I got up sent to me the season when I posted when I was posting. Spoilers during Peter Season about I ah I can't remember which one it was. I said here's your final six or here's your final tendrils or whatever and one of the personal comments. I got when someone commented on when I put it out on on instagram story and I got a message from somebody. I'm just like Holy Shit. I mean just about as flat out rude as you could as you could be just and it was just. It's such a throwaway comment and it was just like I think it literally said. Wow how that girl make the ten she so F- An ugly and I'm just like wow but you know I'm not gonNA obviously say who it is and I was. I was honestly thinking about putting that on blast and putting that person out there but I was just like you know it just sucks. It was just I was GonNa put you know just a quota like Oh look at women supporting women again and it was just. It's it's always a woman that's doing this. They're they're guys that troll but when it comes to Bachelor Bachelorette and the bachelor contestants. The women that are on the bachelor seasons. It's mostly the other women that are making these comments towards the women Okay so your turn. They say you know. I think my first impression of you are like the first time pilot like I was made aware of year is while hallway. Were in Vegas and I think someone had released to you that I got the first impression rose and so producer came up. Talk to me and they were like. Did you tell someone act home that you got the first pressure as like. You can't like reach out to be both. I haven't said anything. Oh I don I remember that. I don't remember I mean. I remember the first impression rose. I don't remember releasing get before while the season was airing which I do. You know all the time now but back then. I didn't realize it started that early. I think to whenever I first Matt you it was Kinda like this is what they're also angry about. Or whatever like I've so nice I mean you were friendly with a bunch of Bachelor people you know what I mean so it was just funny that people get so villain. I didn't think they're going to be one way. And you beat them in their completely different way. Yeah no I'm. I'm sure that there's a lot of people out there now. Whoever it is Colin's women or Hannah's guys or Peter's women that have this impression of me just based on what producers are putting into their head because they're basically told you know at no point? Are you allowed to ever have any contact with that. A guy and so there's just to have this this fear in their head. I mean you know You know once the season do people reach out to me of course But yeah they have this. I think they just have this impression. That like the Guy Behind the curtain of wizard of Oz pulling all the strings and doing all this this crazy shit and just like just Dude Sarah Guy. There's nothing you know. But I have this persona within the that's a franchise that some people are just so intimidated by me. When there's really no reason to be so okay next one if you could ask any question of anyone in Bachelor nation what would it be? Gosh I should've maybe you should've sent me these me before we recorded like on the spot and I probably should or should have thought about these more because you did send me some I. I just didn't know which ones we were GONNA do I think he no go go with yours first. Let me thank thank you. I know. There's a good one that I have. I just need to think about it. It's one and I'm sure that I can think of lots of questions. I think this one just seems mine. I think I would light to ask Ari. Those I was the first one that came to my head was sorry go ahead. Why like what made him pick? Nick I think it seems so obvious now Lorraine West is choice. What made him pick back when you ask the question for some reason? That was the first season that I went to in my head. Yeah and obviously went to the end because I was going to ask Ari. Hey what about that. Fifth Fifth episode date. That you know care It was about the ending and it was more along the lines of that. So let me think. Let me think a little bit more Let me think of a crazy season. I mean I guess you could say the same thing for Jason Woodham. What initially yeah what? What made you pick Melissa when you were out there Considering how happy he is with You know with molly now just like our is happy with Lauren and starting a family. It's just it is weird to think back and it's like how would you so off on your pick but then again when you think about it it's like they can't be so off because they really don't know the person you know that's There was another one They had that came to mind. But I'm totally blanking crap. Okay well sorry sorry sorry. My answer sucks but I would go with the one to just in recent memory. That would be one. That would come just what it specifically for you here. At all seasons you've spoiled on what's been your favorite to dig up dirt on that. was I loved the Andy Stuff. I loved Andy Season when I found out and I got the interview of when I got the video of Nick on the plane plane coming home from filming and posting the end getting that sent to me by somebody that I had dated five years earlier. We hadn't spoken spoken since and yet she's sitting on a plane in the row behind. Nick here's talking. Thinks enough to record it and things enough to dig back in her phone and find my number her. When we haven't spoken in five years I wouldn't say ended particularly well and thought enough to email me and say text me actually text me first and say hey I think this guy just finished the bachelor filming and I know you still write about the show so I thought I'd send this to you and that was just so much fun for me because because it was it was the best bowler I've ever gotten? Nothing will ever top that I don't I don't see how just looking back back on that video and and and the funny thing was everything that Nick said in the video about Josh ended up being true like Nick was pretty much a truth teller in that in that video he basically predicted Andy Josh's relationship what was going to happen with it. So for all the shit. The Knicks takes over the years. What it who is he telling this to like a random person or was it sounded like a family member? I don't think it's ever been confirmed who he was talking to but it sounds like he was talking to his dad. Dad and I think nick I think actually may have said it was his dad in interviews after that when he was asked about it after the fact think yeah he was talking to some family remember telling them basically what had happened as he was boarding the plane and sitting there while everyone else was boring. But yeah it's crazy craziest thing I've ever gotten an but it it was It because it was so random who it came from how much how clear the video was you could clearly hear what he was saying and it was clear that he was just getting being eliminated and heading back home and he was the final two like it was. I couldn't believe it and nothing will ever top it and like I love it now. I know that now and it just it really just does seem like something something here. I mean if he obviously knew the person behind him was recording. I'm sure he would have been a little more discreet or maybe hung up the phone and waited till oh he got off the plane to say that but he had no idea I mean. I don't blame him. I mean he he would be doing what any other contestant who just got dumped in the Dominican Republic and had just spent two months on a show would do second they got their phone back call their family and say hey. I'm coming home. Here's what happened like He. He didn't do anything wrong. It was wrong place wrong time you know so and asked what do y'all fight about the most. Yeah nothing how much I sleep I waited. uh-huh that Steve Steve. Thanks 'cause I'm just like do they want me to answer. Is it between me and you. You is between my husband Steve. Yeah I mean I can't remember any fight that you and I ever had so it must be. They must be asking me about you. Know I I yeah. Sorry to disappoint everyone. I've have not fought okay Actually there was another one but it was just for you and I kinda like these ones. The most it's as it's Steve still single. He's such a gem on the PODCASTS podcast. And someone needs to snatch him up. God Yeah Yeah. I'm a single man. I mean date when I can and but how the dates happen like do you. Are you at all and you meet someone or using dating APP definitely not on dating APPs not a fan of those. I have not been on a dating absence. I have not been on a dating absence and is match even has match gone to the APP portion or they more a website website. Okay match was the last thing I was on and that was when I moved to Texas in two thousand six because I didn't know anybody when I moved moved out here and I was like I. I probably need maybe meet some people this way and then I got on it and I hated it and I saw. I don't do that. I mean it's just random random honestly it's random -ness of how I meet people Is really the best answer There's no I'm definitely not don on dating APPS and I rarely meet people when I'm out That I ended up dating so It's usually through some sort of either mutual connection or somebody that emails me through the website and we just kind of get talking. What's kind of how it works? It would be annoying. Because are they just like ask you questions about the bachelor the whole time. Yeah Yeah you just you just don't know and that's the other thing. That's Kinda is difficult. Sometimes to navigate is are these people interested in me or they interested in dating reality. Steve and thinking that they're going to like know all the secrets if we are dating which the answer is no So like I said it's it's not easy to date me not because I'm a difficult person but I am private in terms of if we date. It's not like all the sudden. You're going to know everything that I do and who I speak with and and my sources and stuff like that I just. I'm never going to share that because I'm just paranoid that if and when a break-up happens then that person is going to run and tell a bunch of people and I don't mean that happening this is this is my business. This is my brand. I can't let someone in to that world at least right away and so yeah. It's difficult to navigate but you we'll see he still ask me why e and my last ex broke up your last X.. Before Steve You've yes over seven years ago did you talk about him a lot. I mean I guess I talked about him a lot on my old blog and I guess maybe I don't. What by Instagram was the same back? Then you know like maybe that's why people like was that the one was that when you were writing recaps weekly on the show. Oh Okay so you must have been telling stories here and there about him. I don't even remember. I don't even remember him. I I don't even remember number his name. What was his name or you have have you ever given it out? I think his name was Scott. Okay they kind of sounds familiar. I don't remember anything about him. Okay let's see another one. This one is kind of Controversial I guess not controversial. I mean I think it's important questioning answer. Chance are within the franchise. Why do you think why contestants have the least amount Apollo ours? I mean I think think if if you were I mean. I don't know the demographics of the show but I'm guessing it's predominantly white people that watched the show. I just don't think numbers wise black people because there is a stigma around the show that they don't treat people of color really well and and there's not a lot of people of color on the show. So why would people of color watched the show. There's just we're not watching us. Oh so that'll saying like we're not watching us. This is our life. You know why I think in terms of like on social media. Why but there's no reason why Rachel should not have a million followers? She doesn't have a million now. Do you know what she's at. Let me look it up. Just I can. Actually I tell you what she had. I mean yeah. I don't know idea about her follower count. She has eight hundred sixty seven. Yeah Yeah and then you think about someone like Demi has one point four million. I don't know if there's any sort of explanation for that like why. Why does I mean I just I think people just maybe see this as a white show? Oh and so black. People don't care but I mean Rachel was the lead. Rachel was the lead of the show on. Yeah exactly there's no reason as you said except that if you went over the last five female leads of the show. Rachel's obviously the lowest follower count. I would think right now between Hannah. We know hand has got way more Hana's like two point something million before Hannah was does BECA has got to be over a million right. She's easily over a million one. Point Three Million Ryan before. Becker was Rachel. I believe right inside and then Caitlin has one point seven and before caitland eight. Lynn was a limb caitlyn. Came from Ben's season before Ba Badejo. She's over two million. I think so before. That's the last five the lowest the lowest follower account. Besides Rachel is one point three million. They got five hundred thousand. More than Rachel. There's gotTa be some inherent racism involved in that present. There really is. I mean there's no explanation I mean it'd probably if you took the top twenty five. instagram followed the largest instagram follower. Count from everybody imagination. I'm trying to think of what what black person has the most. It's probably Rachel Right. Is there a black contestant. That has anything any more than her. Let me look up Mike. Mike has six hundred sixty thousand. And I'm trying to think thanks. Eric might know. He's only at one sixty five K.. Like see here's the thing it's just like these are people who have gone as far as their right counterparts and they're very active on instagram. It's not like that. They're not rituals. She's got three television shows. You know she's got she's got a podcast she's got a radio show. She's got it the television show about ghosting people. That's three things that she does says it's not like she's not out there. It's not like she just disappeared after season and she's only got eight hundred sixty seven. I mean we say only but in this world and this bachelor nation world for someone who elite eight hundred sixty seven thousand is crap compared to everyone else from the show. Yeah and she's about to be she just got married aid from the show like now that there's just it must be and you can't say and I know that there will be people that listen to this and probably say after the fact act. Oh we don't like how outspoken. Rachel is well. I mean let's be honest Caitlyn's just as outspoken as Rachel is. I mean Caitlin has no problem you know. And that's why people love Caitlyn. They love her. You know non filtered speak and they love how she just shoot. Some happened says whatever and drinks wine during her podcasts. And and we'll call people out or whatever so praise Caitlyn for that and then turn around and condemn rate so critical so in your racism right there but that happens everywhere with people that do the same exact thing but you already have an inherent aren't liking for somebody but you choose to say okay. Well like you said Rachel and Caitlyn. I think are are probably if you if you were to say of all all the leads pass leads of this show easily. The two most outspoken past female leads of this show right. BECCA doesn't rock. The boat alley doesn't doesn't rock the boat Desert isn't rock. The boat hand doesn't raw Kaitlyn and Rachel are two women from this franchise former number leads that absolutely wanted to percent have no filter and speak their minds and one of them has doubled. The follower count and Rachel is way more recent than Caitlyn in terms of being on the show and has a marriage from the show. Yeah so okay. I think we answered the question. The short answer is it's it's racist but we can't say like hey all the bachelor nation fans are racist. I just but there has races involved in this has to be. I think it right now if you're listening and you don't follow Rachel and you don't have any issues with her. You need to just think about. Why aren't you following her? Yeah especially if it's compared to and follow a shit ton of other people from the franchise. We're not calling you racist but you might just have some Mike Inherent bias in your mind that you're not even thinking about and I think now it's like important to like ask ourselves these questions and and you know give her a follow. I guarantee you that it's not going. Everything she does on instagram. I think is pretty great. I follow Rachel Instagram. And I don't know I mean I. I've seen stories of her recently but I couldn't tell you exactly what she promoted or whatever but I don't I've never looked at her stuff and been like God. This is nauseating it's like ad after Radha red. I've never gotten that impression from Rachel. She hasn't do at after on a lot of times. I think she's really just kinda like lighting what she's doing in terms of her work. I which I think is great and then you can see like really cute moments between her and Brian. Okay Yeah I mean. I've always followed her. I think since her season I mean I've just that's one thing I will do. I usually follow the lead following Peter but I just added him like maybe a month ago I was just like all right because like okay seasons overall follow him and just kind of see in just that I follow every lead. I think most of them all right. Let's see this line. Who Do you think has been the most genuinely as well as disingenuous us? The most genuine lead. Well I definitely I I definitely the bachelorettes are just more genuine in in general just because I think they take the show more seriously than the dudes do and I think the I think the end and result of the show proves that out. I mean the Bachelorettes have lasted longer and have gotten way more marriages out of this franchise than the Bachelors. It's that's just fact there's been one guy that married the girl that he chose. That was Sean we've had that. Is that like fat slurs. Don't end up. Oh I know the answer is because I don't think they I think they look at it as more of an opportunity to it's more to them of you know what if it doesn't work out great great I've got so many other women now that want me because they watched me on the show and they like me and it whereas I think the women don't women's mentality is they don't think that way like oh I'm going to go on the show Joe and even if even if I don't find my husband on the show there'll be so many other guys knocking at my door I'll have so many more opportunities and they would but I think they take it more seriously okay and they and they fall for the guys a lot more than the guys fall for the women. That's not to say that Colton is an industry because he certainly is probably more than she's him but I just I just I don't think the guys take it as seriously and you can't dispute that because they've had one marriage you know it doesn't why doesn't it work out but it works out up until Caitlin and Sean broke up. They were fifty fifty. They were seven they were seven out of fourteen the the Bachelorette with either may seven of seven of the cup. Final couples were either married or still engaged. And now it's six out of fourteen because of off Shawn Caitlyn's Sean. Yes Sean. CAITLYN's break-up we'll now Hannah just came off the boards because her season just aired six months ago but they've had fifteen season so now they're six hundred fifteen but the bachelor's one one out of twenty three. Yeah you know I mean I don't I don't want to say I don't think think that Jason and Molly obviously are together and happy and Artie Lauren or together and happy. I don't count them. As a successful couple people. From the franchise I understand. That's more of semantics. But those people dated after the show she's going to. Mali dated for ten months before he proposed to her now. RN Lauren were a little bit different. They literally got engaged a month after he went and chased her down that that was always questionable to me. But you know they've proven even me wrong they're happy and they have a child and good for them. But I don't consider Orien- Lauren Jason and molly the make making the bachelor three out of twenty three. They're one out of twenty three to me because Sean married the final girl detail. That's the way I look at it but we could be arguing apples and oranges here. I don't know he's still have to answer the question. Oh disingenuous versus Jen. Okay So the genuine one. I'll just stick with the BACHELORETTES It's if I say one it's almost like Oh did you mean that does that mean that Beckett was genuine does that mean that but the one that came to mind was Ashley and I've always liked actually season. And and I think I say Ashley because because her season came about before all the instagram schilling happened. And I've always liked her season. I've always liked Ashley even though we've only had email conversations in the past And I didn't even bring up on my podcast last week. You know the horrible news about JP. And the John on Beret Syndrome. Although I've heard about seven different prompts nations of Gaon Beret. I don't even know if that's right. It sounds like it's right but It's the one I've heard most was frequently but yeah that's awful to hear what happened with J. P. and to hear that he it's GonNa it's GonNa be a little bit before he gets feeling back where you can play with with your kids and pick up your kids. Like that's got to be awful for him. I can only imagine so I'd say Ashley for genuine disingenuous ingenuous. Where's that disingenuous or just genuine? What's the word ingenuous disingenuous? Do a bachelor now. I'm thinking of which bachelor is like most most disingenuous ingenuous out there who on Pablo that was one that came to mind. You didn't like Ben Benef- I'd say I don't. I never looked at him as disingenuous. I don't know that I didn't like him because actually I felt like I was pretty role to him during this season and he was still very nice to me but I think for some reason. He came off so poorly in his season. Maybe because his personality is very dry and he's just very much he just doesn't seem like he it didn't seem like he was Super excited about anything as opposed to. I don't know I just got this impression. That ben is and I've had been on the podcast and we talked about the fact that Mike Fleiss has said in the past at the time or I've heard through I've heard through people that might places always said that Ben and was his worst bachelor. This is the worst season he said that at the Finale Party. I think that's where I heard it from. Somebody was at the Finale Party. In of Ben Season Fleiss was ripping him and saying it was the worst season So I I wouldn't put him into my disingenuous ingenuous list. Juan Pablo definitely comes to mind. And so yeah I'll go with one Pablo so who's yours. Wa Pablo in who nationally the same interests as me. I was GONNA say Ashley Too. I mean it's hard for me to like pick any other bachelorettes because I feel like that was the last season to where they didn't mess with who they were going to pick. You know what I mean. They didn't think it was going to be been where we didn't love. JP well except for the whole. I mean the show made. It tried to throw a swerve in by. I basically showing that Ashley sister didn't like JP remember that whole thing But Yeah I do remember. Yeah are that's true and look. I hope people don't just because we said Ashley is the most genuine genuine- genuineness genuine doesn't mean. We think everyone else was disingenuous. Don't take it wrong because then it turns into it. Just we had to choose one. We're not picking favorites here. We're just choosing one ranch in the question. Our next if we were given full creative license to revamp the bachelor what would you do i. I think one thing that I've talked about in the in past years was if they really want to make this more about less dramatic and more about the romance of the show I think I would probably probably eliminate more people in the beginning. kind of like how they did back in the day where after the first night they were down to like twelve they started the season with like twenty five and half the cast would be eliminated the first night but they also only had eight episodes so not the the the date structure wasn't the same as it is now so I guess I would say probably eliminate more. You really need twenty two to people after the first night like on this season. Probably not if you're going that route The other thing I would probably do is his break. The fourth wall little bit more kind of like more like Colton season and maybe just e even though as cringe-worthy as cringe-worthy as it was the Becca Ari break-up where we see things that we normally don't see on the show I didn't agree with how it went down but the actual filming of it that that part of just a filming structure that we're not used to just give people something different. Yeah I guess that's what the question is asking me. What would you do different stuff like that breaking the fourth wall and not being so structured and maybe kind of going went off the rails a little bit just doing mixing it up doing something horrible at this answer go ahead give you the same thing? Do something will be different. And that's exactly what they're asking me. What would you do different? I would say I feel like a lot of people's complaints with the show now is is bad. It's just a bunch of people who want to become social media influencers and I really feel that the show is not able to get a really pull from a group of people that would be interesting to watch on the show because most people cannot give up the two to three months of their lives because they need to make money and I feel like if they would pay contestants they would get more people trying out for the show. That aren't the same type of person they're not all like from wealthy families that can kind of slowed them until they're off the show and really only become social media influencers that makes sense Yeah I never thought about paying the contestants which is pretty funny. What do you think about it that these women and men don't get paid to go on the Bachelor Bachelorette you do? If you go on paradise you are paid contestant there but it's honestly not not very much you know like seven hundred fifty dollars or a thousand dollars a day that you're out there and that only films for two and a half weeks so great you get an extra. Yeah you make ten grand in a couple months or if two and a half weeks if you you know last the whole time or whatever close to ten grand. I guess that's a lot for these people I don't know it's kind of all relative relative but paying them to be on the bachelor. I think it's I think that's certainly possible. Yeah I mean when I got off I had fifteen dollars fifteen dollars in your bank account when you got off the show. So whenever I got kicked off we were in Vegas and They the producers who were with me they were like. Let's go gamble because I had never been to vegas before so are after. I got eliminated. They wanted to cheer me up so they took me to like plays games and I went to the ATM to get out some money. And I login. They had this year. So now it's like oh Can y'all just give me some money to gamble with fifteen dollars can and so. When I got home I couldn't move back to North Carolina or New York immediately had to say in North Carolina? And then whenever I I got up there I remember not being able to get a subway card because I just didn't have enough money so I had to start working right away. Wow Yeah I mean it makes sense you are. You're you're asking these people to would you go on the show. You're basically being. You're basically told you might be gone for a week. You might be gone for two months. There's not many people that have a steady eight to five job. That are allowed to tell their boss. Hey I might be gone for a week but I might be gone for two months. Is that okay. Okay it's a it's a normal thing to ask your boss. That's why a lot of these contestants like you said have jobs where you know you can personal train and put on hold for two months. It's like Jay. I'm just not taking any clients for two months or you know receptionist or bartender. Those are easy jobs to be like having to take some time off. You know. There's not any it's not too many. CFO's that are going on the show. Basically you say so much money off. Is that yeah you could get you could float these women if you lasted three episodes you get X.. Amount of money. If you last five will pay you for this. I mean they do it for this arriver contestants you know I don't know if this is well known maybe people know this. Maybe they don't but if you're on survivor. Outside of the Million Dollar Prize in second place gets one hundred thousand thousand every place after that gets a certain. Pay Amount from if there's twenty people on the show to twentieth place gets a certain amount nineteenth. Replace Eighteenth Place and so on down the line all the way up to second place gets one hundred thousand the winner gets a million and I bet that this would encourage this is then to eliminate more people on the first night. Yeah so they don't have to pay as much exactly. Yeah they're making a ton of money off the show. You'd think you could float the contestants money like I was out of work for this long. Can you at least cover this. But I don't know if you could. It would have to be a flat rate because some people are are going to be making more than other people at their jobs. You know. So they'll pay the most. Yeah so AM I. So when like Koran or whatever you know but but that's the thing I I think it's like you said I think there's a lot of people that come on the show now and I and I think it's basically everybody that is coming on the show knowing they're looking more long term of. Yeah whatever if I find a husband or I find a wife great but my goal here is to become part of Bachelor nation. Asian be in the circle possibly get on paradise and just be part of this group now where I could basically hangout with the with the cool kids. I mean that's what that's that's what it becomes. It's WHO's cool enough to hang out with WHO and you know. There is a pecking order. There are people that have a lot of followers that don't associate with people that don't have a lot of followers because of that particular reason it's sad it's pathetic but it happens and it happens a lot in this show and I've heard numerous stories about it. It's just I think that would be Suitable to give somebody who last three episodes some sort of pay for work lost. You know but that's also meaning. Those people would go back to the same job because a lot of people quit their jobs. So it's like wait. You quit your job to come on this show. Why are we GONNA pay you to be here then? They could have that argument. It's almost like you have to prove you're going back to your job and these weeks that you were out need to be compensated for for you are working while you're on the show you're making them on the money. Yeah no it would make sense to give them something. I think the fact that they give them nothing is kind of laughable the only people that make any money on this show is if you do get to the final four you do get to go shopping with your handler learn and you can get your hair nails done guys usually end up getting haircuts at final four because you have a week of basically doing nothing after you go to your hometown date you gotta go back to L. A. and and just hang out with your handler until the final four rose ceremony. You have to wait out. The other hometown dates happening so That's really the only quote unquote pay you get. They don't give you cash but they will. Hey get your hair done. Get your nails done. We'll take you shopping. They do that. I know that for final four. You've heard that right. Yeah okay so yeah no that would that that would be good. It's a good suggestion. Someone asked me if burly wanted to go on the bachelor would I approve. I mean I feel like talking about it. He probably wouldn't even consider doing it but if he wanted to go on I would support 'em I think I would just tell him. You always have to keep in mind. Whatever you're doing the show they're going to use? This is early aware of what it is does he. Does he watch a little bit of Ari. Sorry season what does he think like. What were his comments? Like you kiss a lot or something because that's what my nephew did when he watched it. He didn't really say that I think he did say that. Ari Kissed a bunch of people but he didn't like it was gross and he has always always been obsessed with baby Becca or he likes still asked to see her stories on instagram. So I think that's really cute. Yeah I don't know I almost think that Burley thinks it's so not weird now. That was is just part of my life. He doesn't view. It is weird. But he also just doesn't go to be buoyant he's like my name was on the bachelor well. And by by the way speaking of baby. Becca congratulations to her and great grayson great greatness Grayson think. That's his name Grace Grace. It's it's grace stint or gray the gray stunner Grayson anyway. Congratulations to To them they're pregnant again. Rats congrats. What's next in this winter? You and I think it was. How is Mattie doing? Used to talk about her so often but now people you don't talk about her. Because she died Mattie died in twenty sixteen. They're talking about Luca. I think they meant. Yeah obviously this person is not listening long times yeah. Mattie died in two thousand sixteen. We're coming coming up on three years. Now Oh wait no. They met Luca For years actually January of two thousand sixteen. Luke is great she she is look is actually more attached to me than Mattie was even though I I think I was the sounds bad because I wasn't because I'm certainly attached to Luca and it would be awful to just the thought of anything bad happening to her when she passes but Mattie is the dog that was very independent and had no problem when I was at home watching. TV is being on the couch by herself. Walking around going into my room laying on the bed while I'm at home watching TV. Luca is around me and attached to my hip. And so that's been a little bit that's been different matty slept in the bed but when matty went when I went to bed and Mattie came to bed I I would just lift up the covers and Mattie would walk to the foot of the bed and sleep down there by my feet look literally sleeps on my head or at my chest and has all parts of her body rubbed up against me. It's really I mean I love it and I think about it like any other way. Just like it's it'd be so weird if she wasn't doing matt now but it's been it was definitely different because I just thought she would be like Mattie and just kind of do our own things she's she's very much attached to me and when we watch TV when I'm watching bTV seventy five percent of the time. Luka is on the recliner with me nudged in between me and the armrest she just likes to be there and just bury your ahead there. And it's just so she's rarely attached to me but not like whenever we started doing our podcasts. We could always hear Luca the beginning. No it was one of these things where all of a sudden when I came to this computer and and sat down and she heard me talking when I would sit there and write and obviously and I'm typing I and I don't say I'm not talking. I'm talking to myself but what I would sit here and type a column mm-hmm looking ever came over to me. But when she when she saw me walk into this office and sit in a chair and starts speaking she needed attention engine and it was really weird and it got to a point where I had to pet her the whole time that we're recording and then I was like I can't do this anymore. It's distracting because I'm constantly having to a pet her or just trying to climb up and put her down now. I put her in a crate when I record and I. That's that's Sir System. Now she goes on her great when I record and she basically keeps quiet in there. It's really weird. I don't know how to explain it all right next this question when fans see you in public how do you prefer to be approached and wet super annoying. I can count on two hands. How many times someone who come up to me in public and said are you reality Steve or hey hey? Aren't you reality Steve. So it doesn't happen very often. I don't get approach because my stuff is more people know me more of through my voice and from what they read. I'm not I mean. Yeah I've done TV appearances and stuff like that. But I'm not a well recognizable face vase so it's usually the same thing like hey. Aren't you reality Steve. And it's like it's happened. It happened in Las Vegas. It happened in an airport once. It's happened at restaurants aunts but but not very much So it's always been the same thing. Hey aren't you reality. Steve and I say Yeah A and they say that they read in their big fan and say thank you. You know. That's Kinda the way it goes. I have no problem being approached. I just don't I'm not my face isn't recognizable enough to where if I walk around. I'm always getting approached. Like like a bachelor contestant would no I would say I I mean it. It rarely happens to me anymore but I think you should never ever go up to someone other having dinner. That's great And I think that if you do recognize someone never do like the secret picture thing because I guarantee you that they know that you're doing it because people are very obvious they're doing it and you can also tell when someone recognizes view because they stare at you the whole time so. I think it's better like if you recognize someone. Keep your staring to a minimum. You go up when appropriate and then just be cool like just like hey I love you whatever what one addendum to that. You can sneak a picture of them. If there happened to be in a major storyline and they're cheating on somebody. Those are all all good like when Robbie was at the concert and snuggling up on that one girl and he was currently in a relationship with Amanda and that got out. So if if you want a sneak that by all means go ahead and do not investigated journal up. This is only if you are like. Wow I really like this person I want like introduce myself to them. girling and whatnot. Yeah Yeah Now I. Sometimes I feel like people do recognize me. But they don't know what it's from Savannah like. Where have I seen this before and I'm not going to be like? Oh do you watch the bachelor. 'cause I'll get that they'll be like have we ever met and because you haven't been on TV for what you were on one on season. Yeah it's it's pretty amazing. Let's let's talk a little a little bit about the fact that for somebody who is on as little as you were in this franchise is you are probably the. You're probably if you take the ratio of how much you were on the show versus. How much of your name is well known in the franchise you've got to be at the top? You were on literally three episodes and people know who you are or four. It was at four episodes. I think it was four. Four biggest was episode. The women's how yeah episode of Emily's after the final rose. Oh that's right okay. I'm talking about contests. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I mean you've got to be number. One in in in terms of ratio fewest episodes versus staying power visibility within the franchise or known name. I I mean if I told you that. Just you know Ari Season Colton season. Ben Flange Season Ben Higgins season. Find a girl who got eliminated in an episode. Four on Ben Higgins season. WHO's as relevant as you are now? He probably couldn't. I couldn't even tell you got eliminated episode Ben Season. But if I went back and looked at my spoilers actually I'm going to do it right now. Hold on. I'll take me long to pull it up. I WANNA see. He was limited on. Episode four of Ben Higgins Against Season and Oh eight Oh crap I'll let me do Let me do nick. That was Four seasons ago Bachelor Nick Spoilers so forth episode Knicks season. Had you remember for sure. If you were three or four you did be maybe did three episodes in L. A.. Then you went to Vegas. Anything goes for who had the first one on one of your season asked. That was the weird one where at I that was is the weird one. Where if a mom stake in Ashley had her date the night? That Brad was introduced as the Bachelor on dancing with the stars like he left dancing with the stars. They had a really late date and went on his first. Just one on one of the season with Ashley later that night. But that was when they announced that was when they used to announce the bachelor on dancing with the stars. Yeah Yeah Okay Okay I remember that and then so that would have been episode. Two was your date episode. Was your one on one with seal. Well not with yeah whistle. Is that in the episode. Three okay so then you went to Vegas and episode four okay so you lasted four episodes about the way seal was and the mass singer she he was really. He was the leopard. We found that. Do you watch the messing or no. Okay so I've seen the little bits of it. That's not for me Okay episode four of Knicks season. The eliminations were asteroid and Sarah Vandal. Astros got staying power because because because she's in a relationship but someone like Sarah Vandal. WHO's more WHO's more known? If I said Ashley Spivey or Sarah Vandal and Sarah's on this podcast she was great. But she's disappeared from the franchise which you know good for her but Yeah I mean that's that's what I mean. Just astronaut is a name that people would would definitely no because she's in a relationship now she's engaged to Kevin after they did paradise together. But Yeah I'm telling you there's I I guarantee that probably nobody you could find. That has a higher staying power for an episode four or earlier girl. That you so congratulations for digging that title game for me. Aren't you proud. You didn't nothing and she's well remember. Yeah that's right you got to go on a date with your best friend. That was that was that must have been a blast. Yeah I think this is gonNA sound weird but I think that somehow I've always kept myself is like accessible contested. If if that I don't know how to describe that. I think that I would never call myself like an influencer or whatever but I think that for some reason people like him always felt like I'm one of their friends. Is that a weird thing to say. No I think I think there's other people that come across differently in their so media platform so those might be our last John Shit. We've been recording an hour. Oh my God okay. There's so many good ones they're winding you love that and you're like I'd really like to answer that one. I remember seeing in one but now I can't remember it without looking at my phone and looking at the ones that you screen shot and send over to me. This is Kinda like one of the other questions but maybe it's Kinda different what's been your favorite Bachelor Bachelorette TV moment. Emily telling Kaylynn off. Where did she cut? What did she say? Get the get the fuck Outta here. Yeah I mean that's just it's a memorable moment Jason's crying over the balcony. Honey the Messianic is a definitely a memorable moment I think Claire telling-off Juan Pablo. After he let her go. Oh saying the father of my I would never want you as the father of my children. Thou is a good one. I there's a lot it's tough to say the top one. I'm just naming someone's that really stuck out to me but those three definitely. Yeah what about for you. See All I can think of now are like ones that were really shocking. Like one yeah. I think I'll never forget was jake in Vienna's talk. They had with Chris Harrison. And how did I forget that in other words that were just like shocking. I mean I guess Brad picking up one and for sure I someone asked me the other day. They were like what happened to Brad. I have no idea I mean I think he's just owning buyers and I know he opened up a new one in Nashville the Dogwood that he took that Dogwood brand moved it up to Nashville. Why don't we do Sister this is there are so many other good ones. Why don't we just rip through like three or four more but just give really short answers just so people can get their questions? Answered as I'll I'll try I'll definitely keep my answers shorter. How accurate is the show? Unreal in regards to the bachelor pretty accurate considering being the creator of unreal was a producer on the bachelor for nine seasons in the early going. It's it was exaggerate. Some of the storylines unreal were exaggerated for television purposes. Obviously we know in the first season of unreal. One of the contestants jumped off the ranch and killed herself. That's never happened in the show. But the the the the way the way they show the producers on that show and how they talk behind the scenes and the lead person telling them to go. Hey you gotta go talk to them. You'RE GONNA you need to get this reaction out of him. That's all legit you know. I think they did change production companies. Right I can't remember I think so. I WANNA say that Jason's was when they started a new production company. Right if you if you were to ask me. What what? What put this franchise back on the map? It was Jason's season because they were struggling struggling there for a little bit with not saying that you know Matt Grant and Andy Balden. Weren't good guys good bachelor's but this show was really dying a slow death when it was like Charlie Charlie Than Charlie O'CONNELL than Matt grant then Andy Baldwin. It was just kind of going through the motions and the ratings weren't great and I think you're right. I think Jason I think Jason was after Andy Baldwin. And that's when the show Kinda turned. Jason was no Brad for some around. I think Brad's first season was right after randy. And that's kind of maybe that was when the show kind of Whoa because it made all the new is made all the headlines because of what he chose to do at the end and and I remember Brad went on Ellen because he chose nobody and ellen brought him on and kind of ripped him like how could you not choose anybody and L. ended up being the announced that Deanna was the next Bachelorette and I think. That's where the the show kind of picked up from there. And then Jason Followed Deanna season. So right around that Brad. Deanna Jason Era is worthy. Show Kinda took off. Yeah Tyler see deleted pictures of Hanna. Is he for her. Yeah Yeah I was asked this on Thursday in my podcast because I did a reader emails and I just think it's like I mean I don't have an answer I don't know why Tyler did it. I think people love to read read into any time someone follows or follow somebody or delete something or whatever it's just like maybe he just did it because he felt like it. I don't know I don't I don't know if it really means much much but maybe it does. Maybe he hates. I don't know I would think that. Maybe if he was really trying to have a career as a seriousness model or something like that maybe you would have to change his instagram. It's possible I guess. The one he deleted was the the one where he gave her all the support after the show and there was like. Wow that's a pretty big picture to delete because it got a lot of love from and he might just have them archives. I mean nothing. I don't think I don't think there was any ill will behind. It might just be just cleaning up my instagram. And I'm just GONNA take out some bakers this one Are there any bachelor alumni that you thought you would hate but surprisingly loved yes a lot of it has to do with my podcast. Just ones that I've had on not that I say what hate them but I was like I just had a different impression of them after I spoke God not that I ever. I mean because I've always liked Michelle money but I think Michelle money probably has one of the more different personas from what you saw on. TV versus who. She is person So but I kind of knew that but I think the the average fan who maybe didn't know that and then listened to her on the couple podcasts. That we did three years ago would easily fall in love with Michelle because she's great But she is someone that didn't have the greatest edit you know you know. They're from your came across his crazy on your season and nobody. The day knows how she woke with placard one day. That's still what I seen someone else since. Has that happened. Have such a strong reaction to their allergies that there I was black and white when they woke up. Okay that must have been it obviously. Nobody punched her so so so yeah she but just the way Michelle was just Michelle was show was great tv because she gave gave them the sound bites that they wanted however unfortunately her soundbites made her come across is the quote unquote villain. You know people just thought she was too outspoken and too much of a bitch or maybe came across his thinking that she was better than the other girls. That's what her edit looked like. But then when you talk to where it's just like couldn't be anymore opposite. You know. Yeah Yeah I have. Two one is Ryan bowers oak occurred. I really did not think I was going to like him. And we are very different but when I hung out with him I actually really enjoyed him now. He has like a specific twitter presence. Now that I don't love and I haven't seen him in a very long time but when I did meet him I was like I could see the how people would be attracted to him or he just he was not what I expected and then I would say Kayla not that I thought anything bad about her but I just thought that she was going to kind of be like her instagram presence. That it was just going to be all perfect. But she's a feisty side to hurt too. I enjoy her funny. They mentioned Ryan bowers at Michelle. Money's event where I met you the first year the second year when I went back is when Hi Matt Ryan and I remember going back to the hotel room and me Ryan bowers and Nick Peterson were hanging out in their room until like three in the morning. Just shooting the Shit and Ryan was really. That was a guy that I was like totally had an impression because because he came across as a total d. bag emily season but I sat there and talked to him till three in the morning and he just was a normal dude. You know really cool. Didn't seem that the persona that came across on the show just didn't I didn't see it in the time that I spent with him. You know yeah I WANNA say. Even that that weekend that you met him he came. Came in Matt Stephen. I had like a party that we went to so I mean we liked hanging out with him. Outside of the Bachelor Ridge is things so yeah I kinda surprising. What is he now tour? Is He a far right. Guy Is that is he like he's tried to like engage with me on there before and I don't know I might have delayed on twitter. Do you know your instagram. What the Hell's that you know it's one of those task you can take in Muguette number? Actually I really like reading. Take it you'll have to link you know I'll take it. What is it a personality thing? It's a personality thing but it's always kind of interesting. I'm saying to take the test a high number or a low number or doesn't it is based on what you're traits are like I'm a I mean it makes sense and I'd be interested to see what yours is so you're gonNA take it after this. Okay uh I was thinking. I was thinking an Anagram. Isn't that like something that spelled forwards and backwards the same thing that's not. That's it's the Anagram now. An instagram is something else. What's what's the what's the word? Where spelling forward backwards? Same for Helen. Gordon spelling something forwards and backwards it. Oh a pal andromeda okay race car. What they can integrate? I don't know why. But okay now I'm linking up. Anagram Anagram is a word phrase or name form by rearranging the letters of another such jazz cinema formed from ice man. Okay Gotcha okay mixed about your dating life. Yeah we could. We could just skip right along the people asking me stuff about nanny which I just. I'll answer that in. Like a highlight or something like that. Oh He's GonNa do you think the producers knew about Victoria's history with married men when they choose her. I don't know if they knew about the married men part they definitely knew about chase rice. That's why they put her on the date but the married men part. I don't think they knew no remember when I was on if they you asked for kind of references but I almost wish this was something the show dead like. You would have give them to people who didn't didn't like you and then to people who really like you to like learn more about you. Oh yeah then Vittoria never would have been if that the case although an inventory mind. She thinks that everybody in Virginia beach loves her so maybe she wouldn't have even had anybody to give them. But yeah this is going to be interesting to see how things work for Victoria going forward. It's probably not going to be a couple of months for her. Unfortunately what is your best year age of your life so far. Yeah I mean deep question of if I if go back to high school or college it's going to be like wow steve really limited but I mean I mean I've had I don't have I can't say I've really had bad years like in my in my thirties and into my forties. I haven't think back to a particular year where all this bad shit happened So that's why I'm like you know or great shit happened. Let's just like my my years just kind of flow into each other. Nothing really overly exciting eating happens in my in a particular year for me. So that's why it's like okay. Well in college like I think one of the best times I had I was talking about this recently with somebody was when I was Toriente leader heading into my senior year of college for the incoming freshmen. That was a blast. It was the best time I ever had in college. It was so much fun where the incoming coming freshmen? Spend an overnight at the college there already been accepted. They've already said I'm going to this school. And they come for two nights and whatever college are in. I was a communications nations major so me and one other guy who's in communications had a group of you know every session was different. But it's usually anywhere between fifteen and twenty five kids and we would do team building activities activities. We would do lunches we would do. We put on a talent show forum. It was a fucking blast. That was the best time ever had in college and so that was fun So Senior Year of College But since then I can't I mean I guess my early radio days when I was covering. Ucla basketball and I was on the radio and doing the post game show for UCLA basketball. That was fun. That was a lot of fun I got to travel with the team got to go to Philly. Got Go to Pittsburgh in the first round of the NCAA tournament that was probably the highlight of my radio career traveling with Ucla Basketball for the first round of the NCAA eight tournament in two thousand one and two thousand two. So there you go. It's been seventeen years since anything exciting happening to me. I mean I don't have had some like really shitty ears but I I think maybe like the thirtieth year I guess thirty was fun. I don't know my twenty sucked. Twenties were horrible global Yeah no I don't know I feel like the whole decade of Thirties has been pretty great so far. I'm only half of it. That seems pretty. Good yeah no basically doesn't want to two thousand two for me was twenty. I was twenty twenty six and twenty seven like those were my my best years because that was like the peak of my radio. Career guys always say younger years this question. Yeah I mean I mean everything that's going on now is great. I mean the reality thing has taken off. I've created my own brand and but I can't think of one particular year where everything was like. Wow that was the best year I had since I've been doing this. They've all just kind of run together for me. You know so if if we're doing that though I guess two thousand nine which would have been. Jason Resnick season could be. Because that's when I had my first spoiler and that's when reality Steve started being covered by media outlets and magazines. So I guess if we're talking about the reality Steve Era. I guess I'd go back to the beginning of when it took off and that was two thousand nine when Jason Season aired. So there's there's gotTa maybe to end on why don't girls allstate celebrities as much as the dudes. Yeah that's funny. I got asked on Thursday. Same exact same person and ask that to you. It is kind of weird because well Scott Sarah Hyland and Mike got out with Demi Levato and okay what is it. I think that one more celebrity women watch the show than celebrity men drew and they tend to be single. You know what I mean. I feel like most of the men who probably watch that are celebrities. Watch because they're watching it with their significant other but I think that women watch it and have like have an idea about the person you know what I mean. So they want to date that person where I don't think any guy is watching the show that celebrity in like. Oh I'll date that girl because this is not how it works like I think even this talks more about Kinda help people pick like in terms of the Bachelor and the Bachelorette answer at like guys with their dicks like. There's the liberty they don't have to like look on a reality show for someone who they WanNa and so the women that have done it. The Sarah Highlands of the world the I guess G Deed Demi Levato. They're not thinking with their vaginas. What what makes them go after you know and and even going back in the day Jennifer Love Hewitt was infatuated with Ben Clinic? I mean Kris Kardashian dated band that Kris Jenner Kris Jenner. As I watch their shows. So what just because the guys just because if you're a celebrity guy you have more easily have a pick of the litter of kind of any woman you want. So why are you going to go after a reality girl is that okay. Anna is failing to the only time. I've heard like a hot celebrity. Do you talk about the show. It's always a negative way like Jon. Hamm had awful things the say about this. I'm trying to like a celebrity dude that admitted to watching it. Who is someone that you a hook up with you know? I can't think of when the only ones who do it. They're married or they're just watching it. Because of their significant other the one example example. I brought up the other night that I could think of that. Have a female from this show is dating somebody famous and she put it on her instagram story that she slid into his. DM's and now they're together. Is Emily Ferguson. Is dating one of the Pro Hockey player for the Vegas Nights. Yeah I think athletes are the doesn't count. Yeah that's okay. Yeah that's untameable so we're talking. Yeah because none of the the like okay so Demi Levato and G G and Sarah Hyland and even going back as far whereas Jennifer Love Hewitt. It's like they watched the show. They're single they see this image of a guy on the screen that they like really fell for. Yeah and it's easy for them to be like girl over him and and this guy being like wow just off the show so and so's interested in me. Yeah let's You know in a guy wouldn't do that a guy maybe this is just plunged into stereotypes. t-o-n I'm sure catch schiffer this but I think a lot of times when those girls reach out out. They're not thinking. Oh I'm GONNA like hook up this dude. They're thinking. Oh this person might be a nice person relationship with and when a guy is doing it if a guy was during it and maybe this is why it doesn't happen that much because he just wanted to sleep with her which which makes you think he would probably. It should have been more often than because he probably could. Because if if if a woman from this franchise. DMZ slid into by. John Mayer. I would think they would and I was gonNA say he's the one who has talked about the show before and you could've been someone that maybe would have hooked up with a contestant because I think You what you tried to John Mayer. Ah Okay Yeah I it just seems like if a guy like if you are a celebrity guy and single you probably could hook up with one of these bachelor girls if you really took the time but I think it would be more of because when you're in when you're on that level of celebrity. It's almost like it's also a PR thing it's an image thing and they might think of it as look. Look I just want hook up with her. I don't WanNa be seen with her. I don't want it to be public that I slid into her. DMZ were now dating. It's more of like. Hey you WANNA hook up. That's great but going any further. Miss this like you said. They're just thinking with their decks and they just WanNa get laid but yeah. That's that's interesting no I I think I did send John Maher Diem on twitter but I don't think he's on there anymore so I don't even think I could find it but yeah I used to have really been crush on him like in DM whereas it was not a sexual but like you know start condo with him like he lived in New York. And I feel like he lives somewhere close to me and so I just like him. I like my My Confidence Oh wow that actually sliding into John Mayer's DM's well you could have been the first one this rent. I mean I wonder I wonder if I wonder if anybody from this franchise privately has an admitted to sleeping with a B list. Maybe see list male celebrity ready but nobody this from this franchise had to have slept with somebody. That's remotely famous right. I and we would have heard about it. You know and you out I know I guess. It's all based on level of celebrity that we're talking about because I know some women women in this franchise that have been hit on by seeing delays celebrities. And I'm I'M NOT GONNA names but so yeah it's definitely happened but like he's like I said I think it's more of these guys are just looking for a little basically a piece of ass on the side right and not like I want to be in a relationship with you because they have a reputation and a if so and so is a somewhat B. or C. List celebrity and. They're like they're now dating so and so from the bachelor it just I think they look at it more as a as a status thing and I think they look at. It doesn't go well with with their partner with their PR. Whatever I can actually think of and I only know this? Because she's my friend. Hope she doesn't care telling this story. But what are you going to share it. I don't think she will care and also like he's not that big of a celebrity. But have you ever seen the movie. Something Borrowed Laga Colin Eggers Film Akerson Colin Eggers. Though let me make sure that's the right right name. Yeah he's the guy that does he looked like he totally looks like somebody. Yeah I know you're talking about. He was yeah he was also in the reboot of Melrose Place. As I believe okay. She went on a couple of dates with him but it's not like he approached her because of the show. It's like she was set up with him. WHO WHO LISA LISA? Who Lisa Morrissey Ooh? Oh okay I remember Lisa. Lisa married what she. Who Am I thinking from your season? That was married. Oh okay yeah okay. Yeah Colin Eagles field was the She was in the reboot of Melrose Place. That's how I knew him. When I pulled up his picture excite? Yeah so but yeah but it didn't fit under the criteria that we were we had established. which was he didn't contact her because of that yet he didn't slide in her? DM's because he watched the bachelor. And said I WANNA get with this girl. Yeah right But okay interesting. All right well. That was a good hour and a half not. I hope you enjoyed that so this is going to be a two hour. podcast with the with the call before it so anyway. Thank you all for tuning in Sorry we went long on those emails and that was a lot of fun. We need to do that more often. Then yeah we definitely need to make an episode where we don't if we can't we have trouble getting callers or whatever we definitely need to do another Q. and A. and we'll keep it to like we'll be like all right. We'll set the timer at sixty minutes and we'll do one hour. which is what most of our podcasts? Are there about an hour long. So we'll set the timer and we'll do an hour worth of questions so thank you all for tuning in. We really appreciate it. This is episode twenty five of the he said she said podcast. Last one of two thousand nineteen hope. Everyone has a great rest of the year and and we'll be back in January after the New Year and hopefully get back on schedule and have a new show every couple of weeks so casually have a good rest of the year the very Christmas happy New Year all that stuff happy holidays. He's telling me no use dragon. He's leading the string. Only those games. ooh I'm closing. That is going to start back doc when you were just saying because.

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Black Businesses Faced Difficulty Accessing Capital Pre-Pandemic. A Year Later, How Are They Doing?

Radio Boston

13:37 min | 2 months ago

Black Businesses Faced Difficulty Accessing Capital Pre-Pandemic. A Year Later, How Are They Doing?

"Okay march fifteenth twenty twenty governor baker. Shut down schools. Indoor dining gatherings over twenty five people march twenty third twenty twenty that gathering number went down to ten and the governor shut down all non essential businesses now march twenty second. Twenty twenty. One is when the state currently plans to move for the first time to face. Four of its reopening the last phase in reopening for shutdowns. So we want to ask who still standing and how did they. How will they survive. And we've been asking that of a number of people that we spoke with in those early days including just before the break. Boston public school superintendent. Brenda brenda caselli us. But now we want to turn our attention to another group owned businesses which faced difficult challenges around access to capital for example before the pandemic and now have been particularly strained by lack of access to things like the paycheck protection program. Where ppp loans. Which were given by the federal government for small business relief joining us again to check in on black. Businesses is shotgun wooh executive director for the black economic council of massachusetts. She got. It's good to talk to you again. Thanks for having me back to sienna. So she gun. It's been really interesting to ask people. And i'm interested what your answer will be. Do you remember the exact moment last year when you realized how bad things were going to get do you. Do you remember what what really brought it home for you. I do and i was a little bit before The rest of the nation and state and city where taking it fully seriously. I was actually sitting in an office in city hall. Boston city hall and Right i was having a meeting with someone and the tv was on in the background. We had just seen that One of the major folks who hold Their events here in boston had just canceled their event at the convention center. And that's when it started to dawn on on those of us who were in the room that covid nineteen was was not just something happening overseas but it was Going to impact us so greatly here at home. And what did you think you were going to have to do. I mean at that point. Did you think wow. We're really going to have to do x. well i mean that. There's a quote that used often that when the nation catches a cold black america catches the flu. And so certainly was the beginning of how this was going to impact our members because again. This impacting the convention center which brings so much business to the city of boston We just knew that this was going to have ramifications for our own businesses and so That's why even in early march we were questioning Our members as to you know how were you being impacted him. And what should we be thinking of doing To protect your business You know even before the dates that you just mentioned at the top Before the state shut down And we move in that direction Our folks already being hit so we were. We were already a busy at hand thinking of how to get capital to our folks and and other ways to stabilise businesses. And how bad was it. Chagall now looking back with a year of data What has been the relative struggle of black businesses. Well you know. It's it's exactly what you mentioned. I mean we were in a precarious position before covid. Nineteen started we. We already had a lack of access to capital Recent reports show Either the city or the state not doing business with us and this is true also for the private sector And so when we. We put out a survey to our members in early march march seventh and based on all the feedback that we got from our members at the time The results were pretty stark So at that time before the state shutdown ninety percent of our members said they were experiencing a somewhat severe reaction to Were impact from kobe. nineteen Almost sixty percent of them were experiencing supply chain disruptions. Almost sixty percent of them said they had cash reserves to last up to ninety days. If at all which is important to remember because as we were talking about cove at that time the general thinking out there was that. Oh this is just gonna last for up to ninety days and and you know get rid of this and we'll be back to normal and certainly laughing at ourselves a year later and Almost half of our members were saying they would have to lay people off and that's just where we were in march year ago. So yes so what happened do you know what percentage of black owned businesses in massachusetts Went out of business. Had to lay off employees experienced extreme financial hardship way to quantify that for us. Yeah and you know the important thing to note here too. Is that for these These surveys that all of our organizations not just back them up have been doing. This is just based on people that responded so we know that the numbers are even higher when we're talking about who's closed or who's been impacted in whatever way so you know later on twenty twenty july. A beckham teamed up with amplify latin exit many other organizations and conducted a survey with a mass inc polling group to get a better understanding just at the small business ecosystem what was happening to our businesses no matter who own them and One of the data points that we got from that was that at that time in july Almost twenty percent of minority on businesses reported the enclosed eleven percent of those where black owned businesses more than half of minority owned businesses. Were black that said that they were closed. We know because that was almost a year ago as well We know that that number is is now a very very high Because the winter months certainly were not a really great to us. Especially because a lot of our businesses according to mackenzie report or mckinsey company. Fifty percent of our businesses fall into five categories retail restaurants. Hair care personal care. And these are the businesses that have been devastated by coke require in person human contact and the winter was not a great threat to these businesses. They had to close down. Many of them are struggling to find the capital to reopen. So you know we know at least eleven percent of our businesses. We believe that number is now closer to twenty percent and if we don't Make the investments that are necessary We're going to see that number rise even more before we fully reopen. So let's talk about those investments. Let's start with the paycheck protection program. We've heard a great deal of discussion over the months about inequity in how that money was distributed about the you know the historic lack of access to banking relationships for black and brown owned businesses. Made it harder to then go through the application process. What do you know about success for Businesses of color in in obtaining p p. Is that getting any better. well you know In the beginning it was terrible but it was also predictable So exactly what you just said the fact that the program set up in a way that you had to have existing a commercial relationships with with these banks certainly hurt our businesses. Because i don't have those types of relationships you have personal relationships or none at all and it's based on either the fact that banks don't give us a business loans Due to the systemic racism that guides our country Or we refused to get along because we remembered the predatory lending that devastated communities a decade ago and so so that was one issue and so that the center for responsible lending did a survey in the first round of ppp lending to see who got what and they found the ninety five percent of black businesses across the country did not get access to p ninety of minority businesses overall And here at home. The numbers were were no different but it but massachusetts is very different than other states. Because what happened here. Is that beckham. A- and List boston ma cdc foundation for business equity commonwealth kitchen so many others Were determined to ensure that these numbers were not reflected in the second. And third rounds. Ppp and so came together to form. What's known as the mass equitable. Ppp access initiative whose whole intent was to ensure that we were not only pulling a nonprofit a technical assistance providers and lenders that were open to relationships to provide a support to our businesses so because of that effort we got about six or seven hundred minority businesses women owned businesses access to millions of dollars worth of ppp. So we did a little better and we have reactivated that group To help businesses in this in this next round of ppp. that is good news We talked it was march. First with royal smith who's the propriety of district seven tavern in roxbury We talked with him and another restaurant owner that day. We heard from the other restaurant owner that he had gotten. Ppp at that point. Royal hadn't here. Here's what royal told us at the time unless there's a major intentional influx of resources and cash for black owned businesses like myself. We're not gonna survive. We're not gonna make it and then we're going to go into the whole thing of starting off on uneven playing field where prior to the pandemic so our producer parasol stan checked back in with royal today and he told her quote fortunately on friday i received the massachusetts growth capital corporation grant. I've begun to start the process of reopening. Which is great news shows. You know that there can be an arc here but for business. Owners like royal. What else needs to happen. And how do they now. The bills come due right. And how do they stay stable and grow. And how do we fix the structural problems that put our minority owned businesses in this place in this pandemic in first place. Royal is absolutely correct. That one of the first things that needs to happen. Is this not not access to capital. But the dispersal of capital because black and brown folks know exactly how to access and identify where these sources of capital arts the fact that we're not given the capital to to it we need to do so This is very great news to hear that. Worrell got that support from mass growth macro capital and You know they've been great partners. I will say ensuring that Minority owned businesses in particular. Have i Access to this money Which is what we saw not happen on the federal level so they've learned from the mistakes of the federal government but beyond these beyond the investments which are You know sixty seventy percent of what's really needed is that infusion of capital and don't need to help these businesses cover old bills but also to help them in the future to purchase inventory to invest in their capacity building getting staff to provide benefits it making investments in property that they may be renting Or on all of those things are going to be important particularly with thinking about our restaurants who need even greater investment because they have to not only prepare for a future where kobe may rear its ugly head in the fall and winter months but also preparing them for the onslaught of people who are not going to go back into their homes for the next eight months. Because we've been tired of being stuck inside the whole time and so how to prepare for that But other other ways that we can support our businesses is one of the things that beckmann has been championing for years now which is a supplier development and contracting procurement and the public and private sector loans and lines of credit grants are all really important To help our businesses survive and become a stable but It is these contracts that help our businesses to scale and given the fact that so many people are unemployed and the fact that we know that it's black and brown businesses who hire the majority of black and brown people. We need to not only be focused on helping our businesses. Get to a place of of getting a little bit beyond survival but we need to be doing everything. We can to invest in our businesses at a point where they can scale up hire. More people provide better wages benefits all those things and one of the ways we do. That is through providing these contracts. And you know we've seen that it's at poultry levels across the state across our cities and towns even in the private sector but we need to remove the existing barriers In order to make sure that our folks are are getting business all that we invest in in the city state or private businesses leads to be reinvested back into us. So you've grown quite a bit beckmann has You successfully during this pandemic raised one point five million dollars with in just a couple of sentences which your big agenda through the rest of twenty twenty one. It is exactly that it is helping our businesses Get beyond survival to thriving That's the important part i mean. At the end of the day we know that the development of some communities cannot coexist with the development of others and so our entire focus is now that we have made it through this first round of covert is helping our businesses. Get to a place where they can scale and have an even greater impact on the community that they serve well. Should i sure appreciate your joining us. That's should gun etowah executive director for the black economic council of massachusetts. Thanks very much.

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 94 George Pardos's Research Update

The Conspiracy Farm

1:28:19 hr | 2 years ago

The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 94 George Pardos's Research Update

"Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the conspiracy far where we don't start to conspiracies. We just had the water in. Now, your host of the most state of the art multi in four five cast on the inter-web. I present to you fat. That. Free will sit, ladies and gentlemen. The farmers out there. Thank you for joining us again. Jeffrey Wilson my co host, and I decided that we needed to do an extra episode this week because some good things are happening with our good friend, George Pardo's down at the university of Missouri. He's a scientists that we had on a previous episode of the conspiracy. Farm also swap cast with American, and we don't be tree the director and producer of vacs. Come on with George and they, they basically debated to educate us on one of the pros and cons of vaccines, the science and much much more. And it was it was really a breakthrough debate in my mind because Georgia's still pro vaccine, but, but he at least recognizes and I think he always did look whilst defined the science behind this stuff. So, you know, Jeff, thank you for taking the time George, thank you for taking the time. We're excited to do this again. I think the, the follow up, I'm sorry George before we get started. I think the follow up. Is actually crucial me. There was a lot of information that was thrown out there in that last episode. And we had so many issues with getting it up on social media to so much of the censorship, going on right now, in, you know, they both raised a lot of great points, you know, dough was just very huge with statistics and information. But I think George, you know, he raised a very good point, which is kind of the crux of all of this is creating that pathological link between the vaccines. And, you know, the increase of the schedule, and then as well as the correlation between the that and these different ailments, respiratory ailments, ought, whatever it is. It just seems like we've seen this increase in correlation with the increase of the schedule. And so I think Georgia's information in his plea to, to create that link between the pathology between the getting the vaccine, and then increasing illness. Increasing whatever the elements is absolutely crucial on it sounds like George done. Does done some studies went down to Missouri. So thanks to hear what he's done. I mean we didn't turn him into. An anti vaccine. But he did like most people we try to encourage to do when we talk about these kinds of subjects. Just just listen to it you on it. If it's something that challenges, your confirmation of which you already felt you know, throw it in the mental Rolodex chew on it. You know be like, wow. This is interesting to think about, and that's clearly what Georgia's done. And I'm anxious to hear how, what, what did he studies have concluded George? Kind of what's been going on, since the debate money. So one of the things that we brought up in and after the debate I got approached by quite a few different people, and especially some of that were very anti vaccine. And they reached out to me, and they said, listen, you know, I'm glad we actually had somebody that explained some of the science behind it, and some detests and also some of the pathology now a lot of people in the anti. Let's say the anti vaccine community have a legitimate gripe. And that's the one thing that I addressed. I said, we'll wait us if there really aren't that many people out there. Let's not de legitimize their complaint because they are people that are having children. And I just saw a an adult who had an MR vaccine, and she's in her, mid thirties, that had an adverse reaction. So if it is happening. What, what can we do to make it better? And let's not. And I it kind of made fun of some of the moms because but at the same time, I understand there are people out there, that have been hurting you call them all Brenda and reason, and the reason I call him Brenda Brenda was in Ohio. She was a soccer mom that went to jail because she withheld. Treatment for a child based on religious reasons and want to hurt him to chop. And so I kind of always use that. But one of the things that we've studied. Say that again, that's a bit extreme. Yeah. And so I kind of an plus I, I kinda liked the name and one of the things that you that you brought up. And, and here's the part of the technical part, one of the things I think, is happening and Dell after I talked to down talk to his assistant after the show, I looked up some information they gave me because I was like this can't be correct in couple regards. So I went on there and the incident rate was a lot higher than people were led to believe what is various, make sure we understand what bears and for, for the people that are listening fares is the vaccine website, where you can go on there. It's called vaccine adverse event reporting system and it's by it's ran by health and human. Services. So it's, it's V A e r s dot h h h s dot gov and you can go on there, and, and it's basically a website that will give you, you can report something, you can search the, the various data and you can see what exactly was in some vaccines was an adverse reaction. And, and it's valuable to the open public, there, you don't have to register you can just go on there. And you look, you look for some of the facts that are Dell those guys gave you on that website. And what did you find while there's a lot more people? There are a lot more adverse reaction than I than I thought before that. That's one number two. It is not it's not geometrical expansion. So which shows that somewhere it, it's the same element happening again. And again, so when you look at it, it, it's it staying linear. So it's the same element happening time and time again, it's not I don't know if if you can understand that it's basically there's nothing new. It's just that people are, are saying, this is the exact element that we had in this state happened in this state, and it's not like a geometrical exp. Shanshan. So the rates aren't rising as compared to the number of vaccine. But what are those, what are the what are the common ailments, that people reporting, you know, seizures and weather's grand mal seizures that they're having which is common there's high fever, which, which is another one is common. There's another one is the. There is the, the fever the abdominal chest pains, which mimic basically pleurisy some of those, those are some of the common ones that they are. They're complaining about, of course. Yes, ended deaths. And so that is a. That is part of it. I mean and here here's the the one thing that I I took away from it. And, and especially when we started mapping some of this. There is a few anomalies. So one of the anomalies to give you an example, in some parts of the United States, there are more reactions to certain types of vaccines as another's. So what what I think is happening. Is that certain aspects of the population, for example in the south? There people are exposed to more sunlight, so they have more produce. You know, vitamin d there, they are their reactions are a little bit different than the Pacific northwest. Now that is our guest, and that, you know, it's the peanut allergy argument, you know, the so kind of follow the geographic map. Yeah. And that's and that is, and my other question because there's some questions still be cutting off with that could also be. Ethnicity DNA type stuff that, you know, in affected differently in different areas. Yes. And that is. That is that is a possible problem because one of the things that we saw and. That one of one of the things that we saw is in different aspects of the, the reporting data with what might have happened also is that in some cases where people are, are. Let's say economically, they're, they're not as rich. Maybe they didn't have access to knowing what bears is, maybe the Republicans systens, or they were they were, you know, poor there might be more likely not to come forward and say, hey, the, you know, the this here is, you know, we didn't report it as well. So there might have that might have also been the issue and trying to extrapolate, you know, exponential smoothing from such a is daunting, but we looked at, you know, some of the numbers and they're like, yeah, it it's different people reporting so could be socioeconomic issues could be ethnicity. Again could be exposure. Two different. You know, where some, some states have fr-, you know, when you have freezing weather it kills a lot of microbes in winners? Tonight, I have to jacket only because and we don't have to spend time on this George, but we did a previous episode, where dilly after CHAI ahead. Discard that we had, basically, in circle, your Eurasia. With over twenty five bio and chemical weapons labs, and where they've actually perfected, how to use bioweapons against the civic DNA's genetic civic bioweapons. Yeah, yeah. And that is on the only thing I'm saying as. Doing on the back scenes is there a court it's way conspiracy. Wait on round hole with honestly, have they been experimenting on different Vienna's through vaccines? It could be and, and on and off. Here. Here's one of the things that I mean, you had this discussion. So I want to bring this up because when you talked about this the other day. So one of the I read up on Gardasil because I did not here's a couple of things about the Dell the Dell debate there are some things that he threw out. I just did not. I wasn't I didn't understand the law in some states. So one of the things is the guard is so HP vaccine. So I had to look it up, and I'm like, no, they can be true. It was. And you gotta remember I studied pathology was true, specifically, I will tell you this, there's instances, in young females of heart attacks that do not mimic anything natural in their twenties does not happen. So if you say to me, and it's the it's the lower anterior descending artery, which is the Widowmaker, two of the subjects that had died from the Gardasil HIV vaccine suffered those coronary issues. Now that doesn't happen that happens when you're sixty and seventy years old doesn't happen when you're twenty and not even a genetic defects that, that's a very rare. Ailment and two of them. Self had you've had to have abused your body for about ten five decades. You're ready, right? And it's gotta have blockage. And, and it's cured by stint. But if you have if, if that collapses that, that also can be done from neurological toxin that is the one things. That is a. And that is one of the issues behind it. Now, there are some people that will believe that will agree with me and some people that won't but I've read numerous National Institute of health studies where that happened. So. I'll give you an example. Khloponin being is a drug that's used for giving, you know, for people that are that are given four people that are depressed, you know, having depression, while one of the things that, that does it gives you diabetes, that, that, that's a side that, that's the side and that is because it, it stops the production of insulin. Now, you would never think that if you gave that to somebody young, and you're saying in your twenties. Hey, listen, you're gonna develop diabetes, which you're going gonna be in a good mood. Well, that's not necessarily a good thing. So that is one of the things that we have to, you know that. My after you looked at the information and everything. So let's move forward to you know, you're testing. Now we're doing a lot of tests on latte. Weiss. I have mice, right. So let me tell you what we get we get a badge of mice. Okay. We get roughly. Between. We usually try to stay around fifty to sixty mice, and that's because they're manageable. Okay. And so what we did we get them in. We take a sample from every mice. And we put it on a on a slide put it in storage. Okay. Before anything is done. Now, the laboratory that we get them from have them genetically engineered, so we know we order, specific kind of mouse, that has that is we try to use for antibody testing. We then take take a slide from every living mouse. We put them in their little cages, we, then take a group of them, and we kind of look around, and, you know, it's there's no set way, but we take half of them to test. Okay. Now, one of what we test for is to see, you know, we, we look at see how they they're in the cage. And we try to get the ones that are, you know, kind of a little bit more active emotive, most of them act about the same. So we inject them when we have to test them with, with it, it's called a duo phosphate, and what that Doug. What? That drug does it stops the McAfee JR. Is in there. In their animals, and that leads microphones IRS are for listeners. It's the antibodies in your in your blood help fight disease. Okay. So we put that in their into their system. And so we have a controlled controlled shot. Now, what you have to do is you have to take the mice and put it in the in the main vein that runs of their tail. Right. You know soon as it connects to their body, we put that in, and that gives us a timeframe or when we can test. Now, you can you can also check it locally if you wanted to test for apoptosis, but it's usually we, that's not what we're testing for. So what we then do is then after a bout. Two to four hours. We then inject a compound that we want to test. Okay. And then we wait, usually we then take that test on the next day, we wait for them to, you know, to, to test, then we, then draw we extract blood from them. And then, you know put that in a slide, and then we then take another sample, and that's the one that we look at under the microscope. So we have a before and after test, we have all the all the slides together, and then we have said that we then take a look at under the microscope, and then we test for certain issues and what we're testing for right now. And this is where we we've kind of had a kind of a. I think that one of the things that's happening is that there are certain antibodies, acting as antigens, and maybe just maybe there, there's there are becoming a. They're becoming basically paradoxical. And so we're tesla is doing the opposite of what it's supposed to crack now after the debate would Dell. And after with you guys you guys brought up some stuff, and I'm like, okay, let's see we can test us because maybe just maybe we're looking at the wrong thing. Or we're looking at the wrong process because after the show, we went and looked at the there's a study in, in those at the university of buffalo. When they, they looked at for MS and one of the things they did is for years now, this has been, you guys can look this up. I mean, they have used interferon to help the body heal itself from the attack of MS. What these guys are buffalo did was they blocked the. Mark three receptor that is destroying the Mylan. And so now there's no signal to destroy the Mylan and it's a breakthrough MS. So we said that. And. And it's been the same thing for thirty five years. Everybody said let's help the body itself. The body. Well, these guys says, wait a second. Why don't we just use it as a blocker? So we said okay that, that's a pretty decent theory. Why don't we test some compounds and we're not talking about vaccines. We're talking about compounds that are normally given defied antibodies and, and we tested them and to say are there antigen are there antibodies that are acting as antigens? And, and that is what I think, and we're testing results, slowly, we, we have to, to we have to look at the cells, we have to look at the cells before, and you have to map them, and you have to Lee. But one of the things we've noticed is in, in some, some of the mice, and it's a small percentage. That's what's happening and it's exactly the same. It's almost exact same pattern that the NIH did a paradoxical view on night and nine hundred ninety nine on a test. And what I think is happening now translate that into human terms, nine percent of our population is allergic to penicillin. Roughly give or take and, and penicillin acts adversely introduced into one of their systems. You said it's the most inner yeah it's, it's one of the most inert. At about if there is, I mean, it's, it's very I mean, there's no, there's really not a lot to it. And, and here's what I think. And our theory is or what we're theorizing, and we've talked to some molecular biologists that, and we're going to expand this, once we get the lab results that say more co defied and we parse some of the data we're going to expand the set. And what I think is happening, and this is a valid that in. In some people, and I don't know what the marker is. But I think we can create a test for it, or at least use some computational biology and say in, if you have this marker a vaccine, and, or an antibiotic is going to be is going to work at paradoxically for you. And that's where I think no one has. Maybe gone down that road. So would you would you say wouldn't you say that somebody pharmaceutical company that wanted to make sure prior was safe or at the FDA for God's sakes, that they would have thought up these types of tests, and then come back with the conclusions or the authentic conclusions or even produce the conversions in all now, and I'd say. I know. I don't think they have because I'll tell you the reason why there's a thing there. You know, you you're familiar with the. You're familiar with ADR Diana, Pam right? Okay. Well for most of the people that take that as a Pam it calms you down. Correct. We've so yeah. Okay, it gets talked about with the college kids. Yeah. It's a Benza diet subpoenaed. It calms you down. Well, in in, and here's one of the studies that I, I was I started looking online. I, I was going through. I was looking through research papers and I was looking through published studies. And lo and behold, there's a pair Doxa goal of effective as pans paper and study that was done. Okay. Oh, no one would have thought that this drug insert people would make you, you know. We're hyper. And then I looked at the same thing with that Adderall in certain people, the, the people take out role to calm down instead of, you know, to be able to, I don't know run a marathon while they're remodeling their kitchen and I mean seriously. I mean, you know, and so. What I think happened here, here's what I think is happening in big pharma. And, and I will tell you this, and I'm not I'm not I'm a lot of money farm on. Well, here, here's what they're testing. They're saying. Okay. We're they don't I don't think they test the outliers. And I think it's, it's the same thing you're not they're not creating a drug not testing the outliers. Meaning they're not testing people that actually or seizures. Right. Or they get seizures or something like that. And they're saying well that, that, that ninety eight ninety eight percent of the population isn't happening. This one nine percent of the population is allergic to the most inert. You know, the penicillin when you say the average potentially could be about the same or even more for vaccines because of all the stuff now. Maybe that, that, that's a theory. Maybe I and here, here's what I here's what I appoint out if we take if we take a look at let's say a class, let's say it's forty million people in the United States, get a vaccine every year. And let's just use the negative. Let's use the AB negative blood type it which is two point three percent of the population. So if you were to say that let's say that out of those forty million two point three have a negative AB negative blood type that's eight hundred thousand people, okay? You know, maybe those people have adverse reactions some of them are severe than others. Now, the people that have Gillian bar, we can't get real. Here's one of the issues and I will I will. I will concede this, this point. There's really not as many. Numbers out there that are available to the to the public that are easily being able to be read. Now, the Gillian bars, rare in, they're saying that, it's, it's one in one hundred thousand so in a, you know, ten per million, so it's about thirty five hundred to forty five hundred people in the United States. And so let's say it's it, and that it's an improper immune response that the triggers. So let's say that maybe you don't have Jillian bar. Let's say you have a it's cousin. Okay. Let's it had. I it's it's not dealing a bar but let's say you have a watered down version of its cousin. Okay. So instead of one hundred thousand let's say it's five hundred thousand. And, and maybe it looks like the draw. I mean, maybe it looks like it, but it's not exempt and so people. Look wash over it. So it could be as simple, as, you know, when people had the chronic disease, chronic fatigue syndrome. They don't know what causes it, but it has it mimics other diseases. And that's why it's so hard to pinpoint and that's why autoimmune diseases are so hard to pinpoint. Because if you drew event diagram, there's like sixteen different ailments, that look the same. I mean you think about that. I mean, and so you now have to run a test after test, and maybe what the vaccines, what the vaccine companies didn't do. And this is possible, and it's better to just classify subjects. Right at you cry classify the Senator because one of the things I talked to this, I talked to this mom and her. Her daughter. Her daughter, had an adverse reaction. And one of the things that what was the adverse reactions while she had a high fever she had stomach fluent cramps and the girls, the young ladies about, I think between three and four years old, something like that. She had basically symptoms of the flu and what they what they told her to do was go, take some Robitussin and Benadryl. I, I mean that's literally what they told her to do that in tests for any of it. And so I think here's scary. Well, I and that's the thing. Thank you. I'm sorry. Just wondering how many times somebody thousands upon thousands of times that same discussion between parents knockers this happened. I'm going to say eleven. And honestly, because I think what, what they're saying is, here's the other part that I and like I said, my rabbit holes little shallower than yours. But let's say let's say this one apart with the you know, we've had discussions with this with a couple of people in with some labs that have some really. Hi power equipment that will be that. We're going to test our theory a little bit more. This fourteen dollars. Enjoy it while they're named I named most of them. Tom Brady some good. So one of the things that what I think happened is. And this is this is where maybe just maybe this is what's happening. The measles vaccine by itself is fine. The mumps self is fine. The the the rebelo one by itself. It's fine. Combining them, maybe what you do is you get an adverse reaction. When you combine all three now there are studies and, and I have said that. The most compelling argument to, to use the Martha Emma mar vaccine together is that you don't want to give your kid for shots. And I'm like that, and I couldn't find any other compelling argument in that I could not find, I'm like. You're only argument and I'm looking at it as as research. I'm not, you know, let's not use narrative, but as a researcher, what is your argument for giving that while we don't want to give your kid four different shots or three different shots in order to hurt them? That's it. You didn't. You didn't do any testing to say that, if you spent I if you if you use them Maizels vaccine by itself, or a mumps vaccine by solve or one that it would have been better. You never did that test. Can't find it. Do the pharmaceutical companies tests on mice. Also, or do they test on primates? What told me I, I can't answer that. And I will tell you that most of their tests is not experiment on humans. Yeah. The experiment on humans, I, I don't know. They, they do test on my s-, because they I know that they do tests on mice. I don't know that they test on primates, and I don't and I can't. That's not easy information to. To get a hold up because no one is no one gives up their research information easily unless I will tell you this unless they want for where monkeys were screaming all night. Yeah. Well, or unless you want unless you don't have a unless you're like myself, who doesn't have a vested interest in developing a drug, all I want do is research to me. I'm doing this to, to make a better place for some people. If that helps find doing if it helps find if it doesn't help. You know, there's nothing lost. But here's the information that we found out and to and within that even if you find out information that they might not want you to find out like getting that out or into, you know, the CDC or WHO, I mean, if you care, let me, let me sit found us. This is on the laboratories Peter reporting than a couple other agencies. Reporting primates across the world. Each year, tens of thousands of monkeys, mainly macaques marmosets are used in research and testing in the UK around three thousand monkeys are used annually, much of this developed tests, and safety effectiveness for potential human medicines vaccines. Awesome monkeys year in. I don't I don't believe that number is that low. I really don't. I don't I don't think that numbers that law. I think that's a a reduced number. Part of that reporting is a Puteaux. So they would be critical slow, right? Yeah. I and I don't know that, you know, if you're a laboratory researcher, how do you find that out? You know we I mean they used. You know, they used monkey. Thing after do you have to report the animals that you're using now brilliant. That's interesting. See, I would think that there would be an agency while we give you. You do. And you don't hear. Here's the thing. No, if you're going to kill some primates. Yes. If you're going to kill mice. And maybe I mean that's why I can say because it's the reporting, you know. He. Somewhere. They just. It. The problem is with when you're when you're, you're talking about reporting, don't our ethical controls because what you don't want to do as a. Here's the thing is I as a researcher, we catalog every step of the process. Because we don't want somebody say, oh, you, you went from eighty two to two g without now here's what the cells looked like at at, at the beginning. Here's what they looked like when we, we introduced do a phosphate. Here's what they looked like afterwards here is when we when we actually introduced some components to test their immune to, to certain compounds and to certain. You know, toxins this is what happened. So we have to catalog every step of the way. Now he. When, when people are asking us about the data we have to compile data sets and it's a very. It's it's a time consuming process. And so the. The and one of the issues that happens in the, let's say the vaccine debate, the you know, not just the vaccine debate, but the former lot pharmacology goal debate, it takes a lot of time and energy to test. Even if we only let's say we only use one mouse. You still going to have to take a pre sample during sample and post sample that takes time you're going to have to keep those in a sterile environment and keep them, you know, things frozen. I mean that, you know, so, you know, now you multiply by thirty or forty you know. You know, think about the time and effort that it takes. Right. I mean, it's not an easy process, and so. So we'll have to get. I mean, we'll have to have to have you. I mean it seems like you've made along. I mean you make some good some good for energy. Well, here's what we to do, and eventually, we, we want to be able to, to, to say this, and maybe this is what's happening in the population. Maybe there's a group of, of people in our population that have that already have the antibodies in their system. They are they, they are not susceptible to measles. They're not susceptible to mops. They're not susceptible to some of those diseases, and we could take, you know, tighter test to test that maybe what we also need to do and expand that is test a little bit on what it if they would react paradoxically to a vaccine or to even an antibiotic before putting them on a schedule. So it could be also I mean, we, we've talked about a lot of different you know, hostilities here because, you know, even the potential of the aluminum being ended up people having problems with that children. Body's rejecting that. Just just wonder well, but here's the thing they since they have taken the aluminum out and all of them. Well from from what I understand that, they've, you know, they've taken the aluminum out of as an adjutant in the vaccines. Take. I need to look into that, though. I don't think they have all wrong. I you know, I'm looking at that. And, you know, maybe if you can find something counter to that. Still fetus, Amri, our DNA and all kinds of other stuff in right? Well, yeah. I mean there is DNA. There's recumbent DNA, which some of it is I you know, if you need. Say that again, funerals Beatles. Yeah. And they are. I mean it's no different than stem cells. I mean you know, if we go down that path, what is scary about it? And here's what I'm saying that the DNA and some of the it's recumbent DNA so that don't have. It doesn't have the mapping sequence. It doesn't have the same. But here's here's my second. Can I ask a classic question? Hold on. Let me finish my train of thought in your fill free. One of the things that, that concerns me and this is where I've had I've, I've gone into the, the anti vaccine groups, and I've had conversations with these people, and I've asked them, this, did you take a liver, enzyme test of your child after an adverse reaction. Guess how many of them said, yes? Not many, not many. Did you take? Did you take a kidney enzyme test? And again, not many. Goes to show me, here's I think what it what is happening. We're not teaching people general medical knowledge to ask their doctor, and I'm not talking about this. Forget the forget the road of vaccines. Forget the, you know. That's my accident. I don't think so either because I think then it. This kind of goes back to informed consent. Like the doctors are technically the ones supposed to be informing the parent. I mean you're right. The parents informed. To begin with. Right. Right. Well, it means so the parents, I mean, how do they know to do a kidney enzyme or liver, enzyme tester? You know what I mean? I understand it. And one of the things we're going to do this is, and we're going to start in the next ninety days, we're going to we're going to launch a web page, and we're basically going to say, hey, listen, you know, this is what if you're, if you're anti vaccine, or you're worried about vaccines. These are some things to look out for take tighter test. I because if you can take a test at when the when the minute a baby is born. You take a blood test to test for things like fallacy Mia, and some of the other tests in you could take his senior. It's a blood disease where you have your blood platelets. Don't act normal. It's like sickle cell anemia, so they take a test when the minute that, you know, if they can take that test, wait a month and take a tighter test that way, it could show you know, where your child is now if you're afraid of, of a vaccine if you're saying, hey, listen. I don't want to vaccinate my kid. At least say, I want to wait till he's a little bit older. Just get the you know, test them before the measles, vaccine and say, hey, what is this antibody level for measles? If it's in, and there's a range for if he's in within this range, you're going to be susceptible, if they're not they're not going to be susceptible. Take vaccine, you know, get it. Maybe just a measles vaccine, then wait to, you know, to get a mumps vaccine. But at the same time, if you're susceptible to you're going to need it, and maybe your kid doesn't have those antibodies present, and that is that that's a legitimate test. And maybe what, what we need to do is saying, he listened because I looked at the number of people online and the people that have showed up at adele's rallies. And with, you know, with Kennedy and all that it's a lot of people. So there's and there's a lot of, of people that have. A concern that, that is that is legitimate and let. Well, I mean how you can't build a more angry Ari. The parents never harming their child on these are some v. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. You har. I mean. Yeah. And you know, because you trust the system and that is a legitimate complain. It you trust the system. You take the child into get vaccinated or you take them in, you know, e- even you, you take him in for a certain kind of drug, and they have an adverse reaction to it. And will you send I trusted you and, you know, and you let me down while let's, let's expand some of the testing, let's say we map some of the some of the, the antibodies that could be president. And maybe we take a test to say, hey, listen, you're gonna you're gonna have a paradoxical effect to this, you know, to this, so that gives them not only I mean if they didn't want to take one take a backseat in the first place. If that is the case, then they have a medical reason not to take the maximum right? Which would be enough for most people to say, okay. We're not gonna make them do it, but not in California. Well, I don't understand. Here's the thing, I don't in California. I don't understand the law specifically, and I've had to do some more foreign lately in the past decade. That's all. I mean, dude, they're you know they're giving aid to illegal aliens. And then you have people out there, taking dumps on the street thousand people homeless in LA county alone. And they just approved for not to go down a rabbit hole. But, you know, it's a fact, they gave free medical to all the that's just laughing. Arkansas's. That's crazy. So that is one of the that is one of the issues that that's happening. And here's here's the thing that I that I pointed out to you also one of the issues that I've had with the, the autism debate in vaccines. Is that there's what the language it would be easier for researchers? And scientists to us would say, hey listen, certain vaccines have have enabled autism like symptoms. I would be more palatable, because one of the things is we don't know what causes autism. We don't very their varying levels of autism. Right. And if you take a look, let's take a look at this, if you have a kid with ours, burgers syndrome. Okay. And he's high functioning, there are some athletes that have had, you know, cases of Montezuma that are wonderful athletes. They just can't function, mentally and their other kids, that are let's say idiot savant and you, you put them in the you know, they couldn't tie their shoe. So you and both of them suffer from the same disease. So and then we say, oh, this is, you know, it's autism. It's such wide funnel that. And I'm like, wait the autism like symptoms autism like symptoms and what you have is say, okay, what is the autism like sent? That your, your kid is, is showing because that way, maybe we can math it. I get it. Yeah. And, and maybe that is the. And you've just opened some doors. I don't know how far as, as a scientist does. But. All I know. And here's the thing that we're willing. And this is the thing that we're willing to do is if you tell me the, let's say the ailment that you have. Okay. Let's say that you have a neurological, ailment, okay? That, you know, first of all, you have numbness in your arm. Okay. And so I understand that from a research point where I need to go back and map because if you know, if you're telling me that you have numbness, in your arm, there's an Muira neurological map that I can start going down. I can say, okay, did you. Did you pinch your, your bronchial tendon is at pressure on your c two c three? You know, I can start going down and doing research on it. But if you're saying, oh, I just I'm in pain. I, I don't know where to start on that. And that's the thing that I that I've said, you know, that we said earlier, it, did you buy a chance, did you happen to look up when I was talking about the chemotherapy, blindness. Yeah, look it up a little bit. Scary. Isn't it? It is. It is. I mean, I've seen I've seen what that, that treatment can do to people. I mean, you know, of course, their hair falls out what people lose their hearing, some people with brain, you know with rank tumors when they get treated heavily their sometimes their schools. Don't grow to full size, and, you know, all kinds of stuff. Right. So now what you have is you have pressure on the ocular nerve. Right. So and that's caused by. The receptor the drug acting as you know, block certain receptors and you wind up being blind from it. Now if you would say, listen. To the average person. I forgive me for this one. Okay. To the person that has cancer. If you said to them, do you want to be cured of cancer? Or would you like to be blind to get think what do you think they're going to choose? Interesting question I knew to site. Gonna choose site and just like cancer my own way. I mean seriously. I mean you know, and I got in one that I got a I, I wanna give. One of the things that, that I, I want to say about with, with your friend, Tim, and he may we had a conversation with him a few, you know, a a while back, but he made some valid points. He said, listen, one of the things that we, we do have in our system is we have more heavy metals than we've ever had before. True. And if we started removing those heavy metals, and, and that's where gave me the idea of, you know, the, you know, the applied compounds and the original my original study was on on sales, which is polyethylenes and the damage. They do to, you know, the human in, if there are some applaud compounds that are available out there to, to at least stop the damage. The modern Qendra that was our original research. That's where we started out and we're and we're still studying that, but he, he made some valid point. It said, listen, when you when you have homies taxes and everything is working correctly. You remove those toxins either, you know, by flushing them out of your system. But when when they overbalanced or they're, they're over saturating you, you then have to take corrective measures. So maybe what we're what? We've done is in certain areas of the country, people are exposed to different levels of contaminants, different level of toxins, and different level of. Of let's say bad actors because the one thing that we did study. And this is I didn't get a chance to talk about this on Dell show. But we've there's a study that is going on right now. We're participating in, which is in overseas on, there's a couple of, of places that burnt plastic is happening in one of the places in is an Acura, Ghana, the other places, is in Nigeria and the other one is in Pakistan, the people that are around these trash dumps that are burning burning plastic are mimicking the signs of autism kids. And what we think is. And again, this is theory because I what I don't want. Here's what I want your listeners to, to take away from this when, when he listened to this is that they have that there are people on that are on your side, and working on this to say, hey, listen. We wanna make the world better. But here's here's a hypothesis that we maybe it's the absorption of certain let's say. Polyethylenes that is causing some of the issues. Maybe it's the in in is when you have vapor that people in there's a place in Philip in Pennsylvania. The people are living closer trash, dump they're doing mimicking, the same thing. That maybe it's the let's clean up the environment. So we can at least have some of these, let's say, symptoms, less pervasive. What are your thoughts, Jordan? I don't know how, how far you go down the rabbit hole on Chem trails. Obviously, we have contrails that I don't know if you've even sign onto Kim trails, but the lower is they're spraying barium. The lawyer is at their spring, barium aluminum into that, MS fair, and that could be another way that we're ingesting so many metal metallic toxins. But if you don't even have to go through the Cantrell. All you gotta do is go look at it at a factory that is that is making, you know, you, you go take a look at Gary Indiana. And you take a look at some of the controls there and the only way to scrub some of those toxins from the is calcium nitrate now that is what a p a p uses to scrub its emissions from certain, you know, the. Their power plants. Here's the thing. There's nothing one hundred percent accurate. And if you take a look at coal towns, some of them do mimic, you know, mimic ailments of, of. Let's say, you know, autism or developmental disability a John store was on there today and you take a look at some of the firefighters they look lethargic and everything else. And so that is a big issue. I don't know. You know, the Chem trails, I'm not willing. I'm not ready to go down rabbit hole. But we've, we've introduced certain toxins into the atmosphere that weren't made to go together. And that's that is a sense of jenex going the opposite direction where we believe or you believe at least that generations of people getting vaccines has built up a tolerance. Or sicknesses in their offspring, and that's where the tighter test has to come in and all that. But could it be going back the other way? You know, John in the same coal town, general Asian West Virginia. Whatever where it goes the other way in terms of eugenics. Yeah, because you're, you know, you take a look at, you know, let's, let's take a look at, at a common ailment, which is if you take a look at breast cancer, breast cancer is one of those ones that if your mom had breast cancer, you're likely to develop it. I mean they were eating the same food though or drinking the same water. That's more environmental because environmental because you get into, like Dr Bruce Lipton EPA genetics. Why don't both twins? Get cancer family. I mean, people should be looking at that more than family history. The only family history is used for them as to explore geographically, what's going on there. Right city, that say that last part again. It's an environmental study, more more so than genetic grandma, mother daughter, that get breast cancer you recognize as they're being issue in the in the immediate area because everybody's getting sick not just not just family history. Wise you see what I'm saying? Right. I mean, there there is there are places in the United States, that are, let's say, they're, they're called cancer clusters. Why do people develop in certain areas it could be the? It could be. The there are certain toxins in that in that area or mass outbreaks to Burke yellow. Down to LA and they have the right. I mean and it goes in. And in the city. Yeah. I mean, you've got typhoid typhus, and I and I said that tune and people, you know, in the last debate, they're like, oh, type of snow. They had typhoid I said that. And people are like no, they don't. I'm like, yes, they had typhoid they have typhus in downtown LA. These are, you know, I mean it wasn't joking with us that they had to imagine. How baby you've seen city hall in downtown LA? They have to rip all the carpet out of the entire building, because type percents spread in that building, right? Yeah. And here is here's the, the issue that going down the road. We're planning on doing and just to tell you research we're going to start. We're going to test a lot of compounds. And we're we're, we're gonna do is we're going to test, basically the paradoxical effect of certain antibiotics and certain compounds to see if they create geometrical pattern. That's what we're going to look at, and it's going to take us a while. This is not something that's going to happen overnight. And part of it is because we're not taking funding from other groups. We want our study to be so companies are funding your studies now. No pharmaceutical no-go fun in no cloud. You know, it's all our own money, and it's the group that has with us are all people that were not poor. We're not asking. We're not going to ask for donations what we're gonna do is. We're going to start publishing results in the next thirty days and we're going to say, hey, this is where this is what we've tested this is where, and we're going to give some information to people that, are you give you keep tracking results further out, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get we're going to give results that go as long as we keep doing research on, you know, unless somebody finds me. You know, tells Hillary that I have or emails. I mean, you know, you, you know. It'll be a long while coming. But I think what we're going to have you back on for updates is going to be also. Yeah. I mean, and here's here's a couple of the things that here's the one theory that we do have is that I think one of the, the, the one question that I tried to find out in this is something that I cannot get an answer to. And, and I think maybe it's because. No one is teaching the public. Why aren't why aren't some of them some of the if YouTube and others would stop demonetizing us on censoring us? Maybe more people would be hearing about, at least, you know, the science well and here, here's my question. Why aren't why aren't the people that have had adverse reactions to the vaccines, or to some of the other issues? Why haven't they gotten any countermeasures in treatment, I would say this, I would say this person foremost that the law has to be rescinded Jeff? You might remember the name of it, that made the US tax put US tax payer on the hook for all lawsuits on vaccines side effects, and things like that, where they just allowed it congress passed the law where you can't. It's. But we're on the hook though for for all those settlements. And I tell you what that money is to be rescinded and changed on the pharmaceutical companies they do have to pay on their own. That's that's that's gotta stop. Well, and so it's the vaccine exemption Bill are now is passed. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty five or nine hundred eighty six. I it was passed by Reagan. Why ask yourself why nobody on the news has ever talked about this that, right? They're just not alone. I you know, here's the thing. I don't know why a lot of it. Why a lot of people haven't I really don't and it's the national childhood companies make up a massive amount of money for. Television networks for marketing. So here's the thing. I'm not defending pharma pharmaceuticals, and it's the national childhood vaccine injury act of nineteen eighty six and I'm not I'm not defending them. I'm here. Here's what I think we can do here. Here. Here's long-term and it might not happen today might happen. Maybe a year from now. Maybe we can we can figure out and we and here's the thing we have some latte, what we're going to do is we're going to, we've contacted some labs around the country we have relate. Let's say relationships with, and we want to give them the same information. The same. Had offices and we want into their independent labs that we we know people, they're at they're not any not controlled and basically, want to say run these tests for us there. See, when you get the same result, and maybe we can come up with a test that says, or a pattern it says, in a group of our population. This is what's going to happen. This is you're going to have a paradoxical effect, or that you're going to have an adverse reaction to a vaccine or into an antibiotic based on a test that we can give you. No, I think that, that would be that would be well, it's very important to parents. I would hope my goodness. It's the safety of their children. So that's what it comes down to what other thing I tried to jump in that you were you were on a roll, Brian ask you this before we let you go. You know we were talking about stem cells for a little bit. There is a fetal cells. Now, I know a lot of people want to South America places like that for stem cell therapy. Right track. Where is all the baby blood? Well, does anybody thought about that it there are? It depends. Do you want me to do? You want me to spell it out where does it come? This is no, it does not, not. According, I don't know if we hold on. Let me let me say that I can't answer that easily there. Are there are people that are they're called universal donors? There are. Would a universal donor be when it comes to stem cells. For example, you. Say that again, what age group for universal donor to be able to have stem cells. Well, a lot of it comes from Mons. I lot of it does come from, you know. Yeah. And that's where now I haven't studied here, here's the thing before I go down this road. I have not studied this part of it because this is not something. No. This is a different. This is a different area though, that you know. And, and a lot of the time, there's a, there's a lot of in fetal DNA is a lot of the moms vein so in so about ten percent of the DNA comes from the mom now. This is a complex issue. And if you want, I can, you know, I have people that were doing research with I can give you the bay better answers, I, but I mean it's. Definitely will do that south because it's not an easy. It's not an easy thing as you know. Coming from plant. I you know, I don't know if you're going down the Planned Parenthood thing, I don't know. I just don't know. It's this is not something so hard. We know that. Yeah. And they sell fetal tissue. And that is, but I don't know if that is the tissue that they're using four freaky stuff, though. It is. And here's the thing. And that's why a lot of people are concerned the babies are a businessman. It's a, it's a, it's a conveyor belt, it's scary to think about, but that's what it is. They started into that. And here's here's one of the other thing now stem cells are a different thing. Most of them. They come from. They the stem cells come from a lot of embryos that are three to five days, old now, it is called a blouse assist. And in. So those are a lot of, of that's where a lot of it comes from. Now, if you want to find out. You just go to stem cells dot NIH dot gov and to answer a lot of it. Now. Here's here's one of the things that I will say they are. There's a lot of them not all labs are the same, not all research is the same and not all. Not all pharmaceutical companies are the same. So there are differences, even within that community. So I like I said, I. Up until this last year. I, I haven't studied fetal DNA haven't studied stem cells that much as well. I should say that we haven't studied where the origination of the stem cells. Because that that's not part of a research researches the pathology the biology once. It's in the system. That's what are specially is and, and let me tell you, it is. It's hard enough to do way to let alone going, you know to, to going into other around other minutes. Let's I know you, you said, you didn't need people donating. But those are some where people, you know, could send their money now. Now, now because here here's the thing that I here's a here is what I think is. And I'll tell you the reason why, and I and I will say this listeners, this is the exact reason we want to be self funded because I don't want, you know, if we happen to go in the court of public opinion and us, say, give this from outside sources, and that's where to do it, we didn't take a dime from outside sources, we didn't make any money off of this. Because let's say you have a bad actor. Let's say you have about actor from, you know, let's say pharmaceutical company ABC and they start donating, and they start donating, and then they start and they make the money coming up with the proper tests for parents to applaud children. What's going to happen, that's where you become a multimillionaire, really? Well, and that's what I think the patent we're not going to sell the pan. But what we can be able to do is take tighter test, and expanded and give about six more mapping. Six more maps, because one of the things that people have done is they've gone to the t one and t two cells. Well, maybe that's not the only ones where you need to test because. You know, until there was a test for Lou Gehrig's disease. There wasn't until there was a. Attests riccar. You know, you know, non-hodgkin's lymphoma there wasn't, and so I think that maybe it's the test, we develop a test, and we say, hey, this is the task, you know. Have your kid tested? You know, if if they show these patterns, we're going to do is give a range based on computational biology. Let's say you're based on, you know, thirty million people in the United States. This is the range of where. People fall into the safe range if you're at this range, you're, you're at risk, if you're not at this range, maybe you're not at risk. But maybe like I said, there is a and there is a there is one another university where we're working with in California. And I did not know let me tell you some of the stuff that California's doing. I did not know till after the show because again, we don't study. I I'm not I'm not study. That's a pretty good, stop stuff. Yeah. And I think part of these. Yeah. And I think. And here's the here's the thing that I worry about, is what happens is you give a vaccine to a kid, or you give, let's say this. Here's one of my let me give you a prime example of where this is scary. Let me give you a scary scenario and go away from the, the vaccines for a second. All right. We have human. We have human genome, the human genome project. Right. Right. Let's say that Jeffrey, for example, has a an antibody and it, it stops a disease, because I don't know what the diseases. Let's say it's, you know, he if he it stops you from having let's say, let's just go down and read deep rabbit hole. Let's say it stops you from having Lou Gehrig's disease. What would stop the government? If you start going that way, what would stop it without body atonomy, what would stop you from going to Jeffrey putting him in the lab and drawing blood from him every week to make a. And you know a cure for a disease now that's happened before. And I mean, that is happy before the United States and they just didn't tell her, but what happens in that scenario, how would, you know, and you can't stop it. Humans, which would studies for those. Which operations, okay? So there was a a while back. There was a woman by the name of Henrietta lacks. Okay. And. It. She. Was her. Herself had some unbelievable properties to fight cervical cancer. Okay. And so they. The hospital used her cells. To fight, you know, basically, you know, to do scientific research, medical research, and they didn't she didn't know about it. And she was she was an unwilling participant. Now, let let's lawsuit. She died nineteen fifty one. And but she when they used yourselves they, they did it without her consent. But let let, let me ask you this. How old was she went to died? Thirty one nine and she died in nineteen fifty one but it's just all you gotta do is Google Henrietta lacks, and, and that's a rapid diet thirty one she had cancer. So they tested her. Even though they found out, she had antibodies to fight it, right. Yeah. And so it's a it's a compelling. It's a compelling story. And so. So you're saying you're saying, Khimik this very clear you're saying that these doctors are government or whoever experimented on her and tried to get her cancer. You think not a know ourselves has were drying her blood right there. Everyone. That's that makes no sense. Right. She had a in when they took an herself. I mean she had she had died from basic since Jeff. What's that now? Can sense either? No. But I mean, this is before this is you wanna go down rabbit hole. You read up about Henrietta lacks. But here, here's what I'm going down the rabbit hole claim while I understand it. But I'm I go down different rabbit, holes menu. You know, we're just. Also George, but hear me out on this give you let me give you a nightmare scenario. Okay. Let me give you a nightmare scenario that, that, that why I think body atonomy is important it regardless whether it's, it's for, you know. And I and I tell you this popular opinion, but whether it's for abortion, whether it's for blood, you know, blood transfusions, whether it is for organ donor. Let me give you a let me give you a nightmare scenario. Let's say twenty twenty let's say twenty thirty you can't get. Let's say twelve years now we have a new president, whoever that person is in, in twenty twenty eight. Let's say that you president is John Doe. Let's say he has a heart tumor and there's only to file recipients in the United States that can donate a hard time for an open. You know, our heart transplant and either he gets a heart transplant or he dies. That's a nightmare and do you kill those people to take their or even a kidney? But to say let's not be as invasive as you gotta to kill them. Let's say there's only two people in, in the United States, they go to them and say, we're going to take your kidney, because it's more important for you to, to for the president of the United States to have your kidney than for you to keep it. That's, that's, that's where that's where the loss of body of Tana made ends up is what you're saying. I mean that is that's a scare or you know, let's say anything just I mean carving, the Oregon's out of people. But I mean but this economy issue. Yeah. But I mean, isn't that a body atonomy issue is at that, you know? So I look at it. I mean, I know that's a nightmare scenario. And I know that is a big reach. But if we keep saying to people know your property of the state and, and we do get like, like I said for ninety five percent for a majority of the population, whatever that number is say it's between ninety to ninety five ninety one eighty eight that, you know, let's say, vaccines are safe. But let's say that to one percent of the population that you're going to have an adverse reaction. We're going to give them to you, anyway. And if you die, you die is that I and that's what I forget, what it's called, I think it's called like L D DA when they're when they're going through pharmaceutical drugs like lease death allow, we know some people are going to die. But there's a certain threshold of L D that they will allow an order and still drugs can be made legal. Right. And that's what I but, but I'm saying is that think about think about all the other pharmaceutical stuff that's advertised on TV? I mean you know, the, the anti-depressants that may cause suicide tendencies. Well, I mean death death is even include, like, have the commercial is decided you generally done with you jump off a building. But if you're going to if you're going to talk about this, as you know, take away the vaccine argument. There's just let's you know, let's not even sh shell fine. But you take a look at, at an argument of why body atonomy is important. That is the reason why what happens if they need a bone marrow transplant for the president or the speaker of the house. You're the only one that fits that. And we have a mapping sequence that says, you're a donor. Do we go and get a do we go and take you take a take a bone marrow transplant to give it to them because without body? Atonomy. That that's, that's a valid argument. Do you wanna go down that? Do you want to go down that that road? You can stop injecting their children. Vaccines leads to Ono. We're gonna take your. But I mean, but that is a valid argument. And I. And I'm torn with that, too. I mean, let me tell you this as a researcher, I'm torn on both sides at the same time I'm saying, hey, listen from retorted population. Yeah. You need vaccines. But hey. The government can't tell me what to do, and we're going to we're going to then all, I mean, if, if there's anything to revolt over, it's over that of the government telling you, you have to inject your children. Well, and here's, here's the, let's say the plan b or c of this, if there are some times that the government has to step in, because people are stupid. Let's be honest about that. I mean seriously. Well, yeah. Painting yellow lines in the middle roads. I get it. Yeah, I or you know, we got warning labels on toasters. But when you when you. When you start having to go down. You know, do you want to the government to act soa, Thomas -ly that they, they don't look at exceptions? And, and I got into this. And if you would indulge me for a few minutes, I, I don't know how much time you want to go through, but I wanna I wanna talk about Alfie Evans for a couple of minutes, and eight more minutes where I was torn on this Alfie Evans is a golden unicorn K, and I got into this argument because I know that disease and have actually we've studied that disease because it mimics another disease, and who was personally Alfie Evans was the young boy in, in England who had depleted DNA syndrome. And the they wanted to take him to Italy for treatment, or they wanted to take him to the United States, and there's country made them stay in the hospital while there's there's more compelling to that. But let, let me let me say this. There's only sixteen people in the history of the world that have had his disease sixteen in the history of the world, sixteen people have had his disease. That's it. There it is. One of those diseases that I wish God would have never you know, could disadvant- let let's be honest. It's the worst crippling disease in the history of the world, but only six people have gotten it. Right. And, and I gotta do. Janson. We're a million, but I got into an argument with, with a guy about this and said, listen, there's some compelling but. Yeah, the cancer. But one of the things I said, what one of the things that, that the argument countered that said he'd listen. Let the parents decide how they want their child to die. That, that's that. That was the argument. Now I was like, listen. There's nothing that would could've treated the kit. Nothing and I don't see foresee science in the near future being able to to cure the to solve it. I don't foresee it the way it works is basically unravels your DNA, and you become a bag of goot. No one has lived past six with no one is actually live past three. It's got one hundred percents Pataudi rate, and it is very dangerous. It's, it's once you get your debt, you're going to die. I'm sorry. You know you drew the short end of the straw in the lottery of life. But the argument was let the parents decide how the kid dies let not that the kid is going to die at least let them let them. Let them let them. Cry. Hey, we can go to Italy for special treatment kit. Lives to be themselves there or what? No, there's no there's no, there's no treatment that will help. I mean, you, you might get another six months, but the kid is going to be an excruciating pain. Because you're one of the issues is that all the pain receptors the way that you process pain, you, you're going to be in pain, the whole time, and you're going to be numb in pain. It's equivalent to the best way I can say it's to having a migraine headache with a stroke. That that's, that's the best description the disease. But the, the, the one argument was saying he'd listen. It's not that we want the government to say, hey, listen, you're going to die. But hey, at least let us have some humane treatment prior to, you know, the, the kid expired, now, now's a very argument that, that was a compelling argument. And on both sides our right? That, that's an argument where both sides. Right. So maybe. He we have to expand and say, listen, we've got to do something about body atonomy at the same time preventing mass stupidity. Yeah. Master depite mass casualty. And that's a fine line. I don't want I that's you know. Said before we go be said or, you know, the lower levels being partially attributed to sanitation running water know sewage-treatment. Yes, there's a lot of a lot of pox in our. There's a lot of toxins that have been released into our, you know, into the ecosystem that weren't there before. And but, but at the same time, say running water, and everything else is has had to have a reduction of the mass reduction in a lot of diseases. Yeah. I mean it has I mean you know, here's the one the one of the things that we've done is. You know, one of the reasons we, we have had a rise in autism rates is because the kids that are allowed today that suffer from extreme autism fifty or sixty years ago would have been dead. They're just metallic rate would have been the seventy autism richer. Still roller George. I you have to show me those numbers, Pat because. I have I haven't seen a geometrical expansion since the autism spectrum was co defied, and I think it was two thousand and two it's the, the rates have been roughly stayed the same now that could be because of the way they're, they're testing for ours, burgers syndrome any extremes. But in the last since like two thousand two the rates have state about the same that you have compelling data that shows opposite. I I'm more willing to look at it, but that's something I'd like to look up. You know, it says. Prevalence went up fifteen percents to one fifty nine children CDC increases estimates. That's insane. Yeah. I mean again, we can look that up. CDC increases estimate of autism prevalence by fifteen percent. Where where are you looking to wanted fifty nine where you looking at up at or semi autismspeaks dot org. Yeah. We can take and that, honestly, I have to take a look at. I mean like I said, I can I can once I look at the numbers, I can see if it's Jim metric, or linear, so let me, let me give you give you an idea two thousand four. My god. Listen to this, this, this graph it says one in one hundred sixty six thousand four and it kept jumping up. One one eighty eight in in twenty twelve all the way up to one in fifty nine now. So it is still increasing, and it's increasing at a pretty rapid rate. Is it? Let me ask you a question. Is it because of our the is it because what they're classifying as autism has widen, or there's more. I mean you know you can look at it but it's basically CDC is limited in as autism so like symptoms. Whatever it is, bro. It's, it's growing so that we can, we can look. I'll look it up. I'd be happy. And that's why I said, I'm not I'm not opposed to doing research to say what, what exactly are the the symptoms, and maybe and then may here, here's the flipside of it. Maybe what we can find out is that is there a trigger that in certain insert systems, whether it's the mom or exposure to let's say polyethylene say leads, or some, some toxin that leads. Okay. Well, the test, and it'd be done still and. So, yeah, people can go to that, that website again. WWW dot autismspeaks dot org. And they can look at that read that article themselves. So anyway, George working people. Find you on Twitter Facebook on, you know, listen to your radio show. Well, I they can let listen to my radio show at vet radio, syndicate, the on Facebook, and we're going to think at the at the end of the month, we're gonna launch Twitter page. But when we launch our research, and it's going to be called, you know, the applaud compounds t testing we're gonna have a we're going to spread that into all over Facebook. But so we can we can also then print that on our website that conspiracy. Yeah. I mean it's going to have data on there. It's going to have, you know, it's going to have some research data, it's going to have you know what to do. In case you do have an adverse reaction to a. Vaccine, and other non just vaccines. But other other drugs, and that way, we can at least get an idea of where you're at. And then we we're working with to medical professionals in order to get that, that test kind of code defied, because what I think is happening with a lot of people that are just they're, they're just being dismissed. And that's and that's not right. That's not fair to anyone. Right. Right. Okay. Jeff, you've got man just been awesome. Do a lot of information. I was very anxious to hear. Like I said, Georgia's feedback from from, from the debate what he learned what you know, he thought was Bs. But it sounds like some progress is being made. That's like we say all the time and the truth. Well, I mean, it's a pleasant exchange of ideas that opened other people's minds Georgia's mind other people's minds. And like we said, George, thank you so much for the for the work that you're continuing to do and I'll be very anxious. I'm as I'm thinking a lot of our listeners are going to be throughout the summer months, coming ahead on, on the progress. You've been making in the studies. Yeah. I think is, as we expand our research, and we expand the testing, I want to be able to publish results and say, hey, listen. This is what we're finding out on certain EDS certain. Events and maybe this can help you. I mean like you said, I'm not hurt it can't hurt. And if, if nothing else, here's the thing if we did the research, and we publish it, and somebody else can say can pick up on something that we missed. 'cause where does sometimes we're more wrong than right? I mean seriously. There's some compounds we test last year. We thought had all the prompts promising we tested them. None of them worked, and we're like and we had to throw out. I mean, we literally had to start from blocks zero again. And, and that was to, to fight, you know, damage done by polyethylene, and we're like now that they didn't work, well, I hope it all been all of it goes a long way in increasing. What we we know today is informed, consent, which really isn't that informed. So again, man very much, appreciate what you great. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. So we'll have you back on definitely keep me posted as you have been with all your. Colts. And then what we'll get you back on the near future. I appreciate it. Pat guys everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you soon.

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 94 George Pardos Follow-Up on VAX Debate

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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 94 George Pardos Follow-Up on VAX Debate

"Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the conspiracy far where we don't start to conspiracies. We just had the water in. Now, your host of the most state of the art multi in four five cast on the inter-web. I present to you fat. That. Free will sit, ladies and gentlemen. The farmers out there. Thank you for joining us again. Jeffrey Wilson my co host, and I decided that we needed to do an extra episode this week because some good things are happening with our good friend, George Pardo's down at the university of Missouri. He's a scientists that we had on a previous episode of the conspiracy. Farm also swap cast with American, and we don't be tree the director and producer of vacs. Come on with George and they, they basically debated to educate us on one of the pros and cons of vaccines, the science and much much more. And it was it was really a breakthrough debate in my mind because Georgia's still pro vaccine, but, but he at least recognizes and I think he always did look whilst defined the science behind this stuff. So, you know, Jeff, thank you for taking the time George, thank you for taking the time. We're excited to do this again. I think the, the follow up, I'm sorry George before we get started. I think the follow up. Is actually crucial me. There was a lot of information that was thrown out there in that last episode. And we had so many issues with getting it up on social media to so much of the censorship, going on right now, in, you know, they both raised a lot of great points, you know, dough was just very huge with statistics and information. But I think George, you know, he raised a very good point, which is kind of the crux of all of this is creating that pathological link between the vaccines. And, you know, the increase of the schedule, and then as well as the correlation between the that and these different ailments, respiratory ailments, ought, whatever it is. It just seems like we've seen this increase in correlation with the increase of the schedule. And so I think Georgia's information in his plea to, to create that link between the pathology between the getting the vaccine, and then increasing illness. Increasing whatever the elements is absolutely crucial on it sounds like George done. Does done some studies went down to Missouri. So thanks to hear what he's done. I mean we didn't turn him into. An anti vaccine. But he did like most people we try to encourage to do when we talk about these kinds of subjects. Just just listen to it you on it. If it's something that challenges, your confirmation of which you already felt you know, throw it in the mental Rolodex chew on it. You know be like, wow. This is interesting to think about, and that's clearly what Georgia's done. And I'm anxious to hear how, what, what did he studies have concluded George? Kind of what's been going on, since the debate money. So one of the things that we brought up in and after the debate I got approached by quite a few different people, and especially some of that were very anti vaccine. And they reached out to me, and they said, listen, you know, I'm glad we actually had somebody that explained some of the science behind it, and some detests and also some of the pathology now a lot of people in the anti. Let's say the anti vaccine community have a legitimate gripe. And that's the one thing that I addressed. I said, we'll wait us if there really aren't that many people out there. Let's not de legitimize their complaint because they are people that are having children. And I just saw a an adult who had an MR vaccine, and she's in her, mid thirties, that had an adverse reaction. So if it is happening. What, what can we do to make it better? And let's not. And I it kind of made fun of some of the moms because but at the same time, I understand there are people out there, that have been hurting you call them all Brenda and reason, and the reason I call him Brenda Brenda was in Ohio. She was a soccer mom that went to jail because she withheld. Treatment for a child based on religious reasons and want to hurt him to chop. And so I kind of always use that. But one of the things that we've studied. Say that again, that's a bit extreme. Yeah. And so I kind of an plus I, I kinda liked the name and one of the things that you that you brought up. And, and here's the part of the technical part, one of the things I think, is happening and Dell after I talked to down talk to his assistant after the show, I looked up some information they gave me because I was like this can't be correct in couple regards. So I went on there and the incident rate was a lot higher than people were led to believe what is various, make sure we understand what bears and for, for the people that are listening fares is the vaccine website, where you can go on there. It's called vaccine adverse event reporting system and it's by it's ran by health and human. Services. So it's, it's V A e r s dot h h h s dot gov and you can go on there, and, and it's basically a website that will give you, you can report something, you can search the, the various data and you can see what exactly was in some vaccines was an adverse reaction. And, and it's valuable to the open public, there, you don't have to register you can just go on there. And you look, you look for some of the facts that are Dell those guys gave you on that website. And what did you find while there's a lot more people? There are a lot more adverse reaction than I than I thought before that. That's one number two. It is not it's not geometrical expansion. So which shows that somewhere it, it's the same element happening again. And again, so when you look at it, it, it's it staying linear. So it's the same element happening time and time again, it's not I don't know if if you can understand that it's basically there's nothing new. It's just that people are, are saying, this is the exact element that we had in this state happened in this state, and it's not like a geometrical exp. Shanshan. So the rates aren't rising as compared to the number of vaccine. But what are those, what are the what are the common ailments, that people reporting, you know, seizures and weather's grand mal seizures that they're having which is common there's high fever, which, which is another one is common. There's another one is the. There is the, the fever the abdominal chest pains, which mimic basically pleurisy some of those, those are some of the common ones that they are. They're complaining about, of course. Yes, ended deaths. And so that is a. That is part of it. I mean and here here's the the one thing that I I took away from it. And, and especially when we started mapping some of this. There is a few anomalies. So one of the anomalies to give you an example, in some parts of the United States, there are more reactions to certain types of vaccines as another's. So what what I think is happening. Is that certain aspects of the population, for example in the south? There people are exposed to more sunlight, so they have more produce. You know, vitamin d there, they are their reactions are a little bit different than the Pacific northwest. Now that is our guest, and that, you know, it's the peanut allergy argument, you know, the so kind of follow the geographic map. Yeah. And that's and that is, and my other question because there's some questions still be cutting off with that could also be. Ethnicity DNA type stuff that, you know, in affected differently in different areas. Yes. And that is. That is that is a possible problem because one of the things that we saw and. That one of one of the things that we saw is in different aspects of the, the reporting data with what might have happened also is that in some cases where people are, are. Let's say economically, they're, they're not as rich. Maybe they didn't have access to knowing what bears is, maybe the Republicans systens, or they were they were, you know, poor there might be more likely not to come forward and say, hey, the, you know, the this here is, you know, we didn't report it as well. So there might have that might have also been the issue and trying to extrapolate, you know, exponential smoothing from such a is daunting, but we looked at, you know, some of the numbers and they're like, yeah, it it's different people reporting so could be socioeconomic issues could be ethnicity. Again could be exposure. Two different. You know, where some, some states have fr-, you know, when you have freezing weather it kills a lot of microbes in winners? Tonight, I have to jacket only because and we don't have to spend time on this George, but we did a previous episode, where dilly after CHAI ahead. Discard that we had, basically, in circle, your Eurasia. With over twenty five bio and chemical weapons labs, and where they've actually perfected, how to use bioweapons against the civic DNA's genetic civic bioweapons. Yeah, yeah. And that is on the only thing I'm saying as. Doing on the back scenes is there a court it's way conspiracy. Wait on round hole with honestly, have they been experimenting on different Vienna's through vaccines? It could be and, and on and off. Here. Here's one of the things that I mean, you had this discussion. So I want to bring this up because when you talked about this the other day. So one of the I read up on Gardasil because I did not here's a couple of things about the Dell the Dell debate there are some things that he threw out. I just did not. I wasn't I didn't understand the law in some states. So one of the things is the guard is so HP vaccine. So I had to look it up, and I'm like, no, they can be true. It was. And you gotta remember I studied pathology was true, specifically, I will tell you this, there's instances, in young females of heart attacks that do not mimic anything natural in their twenties does not happen. So if you say to me, and it's the it's the lower anterior descending artery, which is the Widowmaker, two of the subjects that had died from the Gardasil HIV vaccine suffered those coronary issues. Now that doesn't happen that happens when you're sixty and seventy years old doesn't happen when you're twenty and not even a genetic defects that, that's a very rare. Ailment and two of them. Self had you've had to have abused your body for about ten five decades. You're ready, right? And it's gotta have blockage. And, and it's cured by stint. But if you have if, if that collapses that, that also can be done from neurological toxin that is the one things. That is a. And that is one of the issues behind it. Now, there are some people that will believe that will agree with me and some people that won't but I've read numerous National Institute of health studies where that happened. So. I'll give you an example. Khloponin being is a drug that's used for giving, you know, for people that are that are given four people that are depressed, you know, having depression, while one of the things that, that does it gives you diabetes, that, that, that's a side that, that's the side and that is because it, it stops the production of insulin. Now, you would never think that if you gave that to somebody young, and you're saying in your twenties. Hey, listen, you're gonna develop diabetes, which you're going gonna be in a good mood. Well, that's not necessarily a good thing. So that is one of the things that we have to, you know that. My after you looked at the information and everything. So let's move forward to you know, you're testing. Now we're doing a lot of tests on latte. Weiss. I have mice, right. So let me tell you what we get we get a badge of mice. Okay. We get roughly. Between. We usually try to stay around fifty to sixty mice, and that's because they're manageable. Okay. And so what we did we get them in. We take a sample from every mice. And we put it on a on a slide put it in storage. Okay. Before anything is done. Now, the laboratory that we get them from have them genetically engineered, so we know we order, specific kind of mouse, that has that is we try to use for antibody testing. We then take take a slide from every living mouse. We put them in their little cages, we, then take a group of them, and we kind of look around, and, you know, it's there's no set way, but we take half of them to test. Okay. Now, one of what we test for is to see, you know, we, we look at see how they they're in the cage. And we try to get the ones that are, you know, kind of a little bit more active emotive, most of them act about the same. So we inject them when we have to test them with, with it, it's called a duo phosphate, and what that Doug. What? That drug does it stops the McAfee JR. Is in there. In their animals, and that leads microphones IRS are for listeners. It's the antibodies in your in your blood help fight disease. Okay. So we put that in their into their system. And so we have a controlled controlled shot. Now, what you have to do is you have to take the mice and put it in the in the main vein that runs of their tail. Right. You know soon as it connects to their body, we put that in, and that gives us a timeframe or when we can test. Now, you can you can also check it locally if you wanted to test for apoptosis, but it's usually we, that's not what we're testing for. So what we then do is then after a bout. Two to four hours. We then inject a compound that we want to test. Okay. And then we wait, usually we then take that test on the next day, we wait for them to, you know, to, to test, then we, then draw we extract blood from them. And then, you know put that in a slide, and then we then take another sample, and that's the one that we look at under the microscope. So we have a before and after test, we have all the all the slides together, and then we have said that we then take a look at under the microscope, and then we test for certain issues and what we're testing for right now. And this is where we we've kind of had a kind of a. I think that one of the things that's happening is that there are certain antibodies, acting as antigens, and maybe just maybe there, there's there are becoming a. They're becoming basically paradoxical. And so we're tesla is doing the opposite of what it's supposed to crack now after the debate would Dell. And after with you guys you guys brought up some stuff, and I'm like, okay, let's see we can test us because maybe just maybe we're looking at the wrong thing. Or we're looking at the wrong process because after the show, we went and looked at the there's a study in, in those at the university of buffalo. When they, they looked at for MS and one of the things they did is for years now, this has been, you guys can look this up. I mean, they have used interferon to help the body heal itself from the attack of MS. What these guys are buffalo did was they blocked the. Mark three receptor that is destroying the Mylan. And so now there's no signal to destroy the Mylan and it's a breakthrough MS. So we said that. And. And it's been the same thing for thirty five years. Everybody said let's help the body itself. The body. Well, these guys says, wait a second. Why don't we just use it as a blocker? So we said okay that, that's a pretty decent theory. Why don't we test some compounds and we're not talking about vaccines. We're talking about compounds that are normally given defied antibodies and, and we tested them and to say are there antigen are there antibodies that are acting as antigens? And, and that is what I think, and we're testing results, slowly, we, we have to, to we have to look at the cells, we have to look at the cells before, and you have to map them, and you have to Lee. But one of the things we've noticed is in, in some, some of the mice, and it's a small percentage. That's what's happening and it's exactly the same. It's almost exact same pattern that the NIH did a paradoxical view on night and nine hundred ninety nine on a test. And what I think is happening now translate that into human terms, nine percent of our population is allergic to penicillin. Roughly give or take and, and penicillin acts adversely introduced into one of their systems. You said it's the most inner yeah it's, it's one of the most inert. At about if there is, I mean, it's, it's very I mean, there's no, there's really not a lot to it. And, and here's what I think. And our theory is or what we're theorizing, and we've talked to some molecular biologists that, and we're going to expand this, once we get the lab results that say more co defied and we parse some of the data we're going to expand the set. And what I think is happening, and this is a valid that in. In some people, and I don't know what the marker is. But I think we can create a test for it, or at least use some computational biology and say in, if you have this marker a vaccine, and, or an antibiotic is going to be is going to work at paradoxically for you. And that's where I think no one has. Maybe gone down that road. So would you would you say wouldn't you say that somebody pharmaceutical company that wanted to make sure prior was safe or at the FDA for God's sakes, that they would have thought up these types of tests, and then come back with the conclusions or the authentic conclusions or even produce the conversions in all now, and I'd say. I know. I don't think they have because I'll tell you the reason why there's a thing there. You know, you you're familiar with the. You're familiar with ADR Diana, Pam right? Okay. Well for most of the people that take that as a Pam it calms you down. Correct. We've so yeah. Okay, it gets talked about with the college kids. Yeah. It's a Benza diet subpoenaed. It calms you down. Well, in in, and here's one of the studies that I, I was I started looking online. I, I was going through. I was looking through research papers and I was looking through published studies. And lo and behold, there's a pair Doxa goal of effective as pans paper and study that was done. Okay. Oh, no one would have thought that this drug insert people would make you, you know. We're hyper. And then I looked at the same thing with that Adderall in certain people, the, the people take out role to calm down instead of, you know, to be able to, I don't know run a marathon while they're remodeling their kitchen and I mean seriously. I mean, you know, and so. What I think happened here, here's what I think is happening in big pharma. And, and I will tell you this, and I'm not I'm not I'm a lot of money farm on. Well, here, here's what they're testing. They're saying. Okay. We're they don't I don't think they test the outliers. And I think it's, it's the same thing you're not they're not creating a drug not testing the outliers. Meaning they're not testing people that actually or seizures. Right. Or they get seizures or something like that. And they're saying well that, that, that ninety eight ninety eight percent of the population isn't happening. This one nine percent of the population is allergic to the most inert. You know, the penicillin when you say the average potentially could be about the same or even more for vaccines because of all the stuff now. Maybe that, that, that's a theory. Maybe I and here, here's what I here's what I appoint out if we take if we take a look at let's say a class, let's say it's forty million people in the United States, get a vaccine every year. And let's just use the negative. Let's use the AB negative blood type it which is two point three percent of the population. So if you were to say that let's say that out of those forty million two point three have a negative AB negative blood type that's eight hundred thousand people, okay? You know, maybe those people have adverse reactions some of them are severe than others. Now, the people that have Gillian bar, we can't get real. Here's one of the issues and I will I will. I will concede this, this point. There's really not as many. Numbers out there that are available to the to the public that are easily being able to be read. Now, the Gillian bars, rare in, they're saying that, it's, it's one in one hundred thousand so in a, you know, ten per million, so it's about thirty five hundred to forty five hundred people in the United States. And so let's say it's it, and that it's an improper immune response that the triggers. So let's say that maybe you don't have Jillian bar. Let's say you have a it's cousin. Okay. Let's it had. I it's it's not dealing a bar but let's say you have a watered down version of its cousin. Okay. So instead of one hundred thousand let's say it's five hundred thousand. And, and maybe it looks like the draw. I mean, maybe it looks like it, but it's not exempt and so people. Look wash over it. So it could be as simple, as, you know, when people had the chronic disease, chronic fatigue syndrome. They don't know what causes it, but it has it mimics other diseases. And that's why it's so hard to pinpoint and that's why autoimmune diseases are so hard to pinpoint. Because if you drew event diagram, there's like sixteen different ailments, that look the same. I mean you think about that. I mean, and so you now have to run a test after test, and maybe what the vaccines, what the vaccine companies didn't do. And this is possible, and it's better to just classify subjects. Right at you cry classify the Senator because one of the things I talked to this, I talked to this mom and her. Her daughter. Her daughter, had an adverse reaction. And one of the things that what was the adverse reactions while she had a high fever she had stomach fluent cramps and the girls, the young ladies about, I think between three and four years old, something like that. She had basically symptoms of the flu and what they what they told her to do was go, take some Robitussin and Benadryl. I, I mean that's literally what they told her to do that in tests for any of it. And so I think here's scary. Well, I and that's the thing. Thank you. I'm sorry. Just wondering how many times somebody thousands upon thousands of times that same discussion between parents knockers this happened. I'm going to say eleven. And honestly, because I think what, what they're saying is, here's the other part that I and like I said, my rabbit holes little shallower than yours. But let's say let's say this one apart with the you know, we've had discussions with this with a couple of people in with some labs that have some really. Hi power equipment that will be that. We're going to test our theory a little bit more. This fourteen dollars. Enjoy it while they're named I named most of them. Tom Brady some good. So one of the things that what I think happened is. And this is this is where maybe just maybe this is what's happening. The measles vaccine by itself is fine. The mumps self is fine. The the the rebelo one by itself. It's fine. Combining them, maybe what you do is you get an adverse reaction. When you combine all three now there are studies and, and I have said that. The most compelling argument to, to use the Martha Emma mar vaccine together is that you don't want to give your kid for shots. And I'm like that, and I couldn't find any other compelling argument in that I could not find, I'm like. You're only argument and I'm looking at it as as research. I'm not, you know, let's not use narrative, but as a researcher, what is your argument for giving that while we don't want to give your kid four different shots or three different shots in order to hurt them? That's it. You didn't. You didn't do any testing to say that, if you spent I if you if you use them Maizels vaccine by itself, or a mumps vaccine by solve or one that it would have been better. You never did that test. Can't find it. Do the pharmaceutical companies tests on mice. Also, or do they test on primates? What told me I, I can't answer that. And I will tell you that most of their tests is not experiment on humans. Yeah. The experiment on humans, I, I don't know. They, they do test on my s-, because they I know that they do tests on mice. I don't know that they test on primates, and I don't and I can't. That's not easy information to. To get a hold up because no one is no one gives up their research information easily unless I will tell you this unless they want for where monkeys were screaming all night. Yeah. Well, or unless you want unless you don't have a unless you're like myself, who doesn't have a vested interest in developing a drug, all I want do is research to me. I'm doing this to, to make a better place for some people. If that helps find doing if it helps find if it doesn't help. You know, there's nothing lost. But here's the information that we found out and to and within that even if you find out information that they might not want you to find out like getting that out or into, you know, the CDC or WHO, I mean, if you care, let me, let me sit found us. This is on the laboratories Peter reporting than a couple other agencies. Reporting primates across the world. Each year, tens of thousands of monkeys, mainly macaques marmosets are used in research and testing in the UK around three thousand monkeys are used annually, much of this developed tests, and safety effectiveness for potential human medicines vaccines. Awesome monkeys year in. I don't I don't believe that number is that low. I really don't. I don't I don't think that numbers that law. I think that's a a reduced number. Part of that reporting is a Puteaux. So they would be critical slow, right? Yeah. I and I don't know that, you know, if you're a laboratory researcher, how do you find that out? You know we I mean they used. You know, they used monkey. Thing after do you have to report the animals that you're using now brilliant. That's interesting. See, I would think that there would be an agency while we give you. You do. And you don't hear. Here's the thing. No, if you're going to kill some primates. Yes. If you're going to kill mice. And maybe I mean that's why I can say because it's the reporting, you know. He. Somewhere. They just. It. The problem is with when you're when you're, you're talking about reporting, don't our ethical controls because what you don't want to do as a. Here's the thing is I as a researcher, we catalog every step of the process. Because we don't want somebody say, oh, you, you went from eighty two to two g without now here's what the cells looked like at at, at the beginning. Here's what they looked like when we, we introduced do a phosphate. Here's what they looked like afterwards here is when we when we actually introduced some components to test their immune to, to certain compounds and to certain. You know, toxins this is what happened. So we have to catalog every step of the way. Now he. When, when people are asking us about the data we have to compile data sets and it's a very. It's it's a time consuming process. And so the. The and one of the issues that happens in the, let's say the vaccine debate, the you know, not just the vaccine debate, but the former lot pharmacology goal debate, it takes a lot of time and energy to test. Even if we only let's say we only use one mouse. You still going to have to take a pre sample during sample and post sample that takes time you're going to have to keep those in a sterile environment and keep them, you know, things frozen. I mean that, you know, so, you know, now you multiply by thirty or forty you know. You know, think about the time and effort that it takes. Right. I mean, it's not an easy process, and so. So we'll have to get. I mean, we'll have to have to have you. I mean it seems like you've made along. I mean you make some good some good for energy. Well, here's what we to do, and eventually, we, we want to be able to, to, to say this, and maybe this is what's happening in the population. Maybe there's a group of, of people in our population that have that already have the antibodies in their system. They are they, they are not susceptible to measles. They're not susceptible to mops. They're not susceptible to some of those diseases, and we could take, you know, tighter test to test that maybe what we also need to do and expand that is test a little bit on what it if they would react paradoxically to a vaccine or to even an antibiotic before putting them on a schedule. So it could be also I mean, we, we've talked about a lot of different you know, hostilities here because, you know, even the potential of the aluminum being ended up people having problems with that children. Body's rejecting that. Just just wonder well, but here's the thing they since they have taken the aluminum out and all of them. Well from from what I understand that, they've, you know, they've taken the aluminum out of as an adjutant in the vaccines. Take. I need to look into that, though. I don't think they have all wrong. I you know, I'm looking at that. And, you know, maybe if you can find something counter to that. Still fetus, Amri, our DNA and all kinds of other stuff in right? Well, yeah. I mean there is DNA. There's recumbent DNA, which some of it is I you know, if you need. Say that again, funerals Beatles. Yeah. And they are. I mean it's no different than stem cells. I mean you know, if we go down that path, what is scary about it? And here's what I'm saying that the DNA and some of the it's recumbent DNA so that don't have. It doesn't have the mapping sequence. It doesn't have the same. But here's here's my second. Can I ask a classic question? Hold on. Let me finish my train of thought in your fill free. One of the things that, that concerns me and this is where I've had I've, I've gone into the, the anti vaccine groups, and I've had conversations with these people, and I've asked them, this, did you take a liver, enzyme test of your child after an adverse reaction. Guess how many of them said, yes? Not many, not many. Did you take? Did you take a kidney enzyme test? And again, not many. Goes to show me, here's I think what it what is happening. We're not teaching people general medical knowledge to ask their doctor, and I'm not talking about this. Forget the forget the road of vaccines. Forget the, you know. That's my accident. I don't think so either because I think then it. This kind of goes back to informed consent. Like the doctors are technically the ones supposed to be informing the parent. I mean you're right. The parents informed. To begin with. Right. Right. Well, it means so the parents, I mean, how do they know to do a kidney enzyme or liver, enzyme tester? You know what I mean? I understand it. And one of the things we're going to do this is, and we're going to start in the next ninety days, we're going to we're going to launch a web page, and we're basically going to say, hey, listen, you know, this is what if you're, if you're anti vaccine, or you're worried about vaccines. These are some things to look out for take tighter test. I because if you can take a test at when the when the minute a baby is born. You take a blood test to test for things like fallacy Mia, and some of the other tests in you could take his senior. It's a blood disease where you have your blood platelets. Don't act normal. It's like sickle cell anemia, so they take a test when the minute that, you know, if they can take that test, wait a month and take a tighter test that way, it could show you know, where your child is now if you're afraid of, of a vaccine if you're saying, hey, listen. I don't want to vaccinate my kid. At least say, I want to wait till he's a little bit older. Just get the you know, test them before the measles, vaccine and say, hey, what is this antibody level for measles? If it's in, and there's a range for if he's in within this range, you're going to be susceptible, if they're not they're not going to be susceptible. Take vaccine, you know, get it. Maybe just a measles vaccine, then wait to, you know, to get a mumps vaccine. But at the same time, if you're susceptible to you're going to need it, and maybe your kid doesn't have those antibodies present, and that is that that's a legitimate test. And maybe what, what we need to do is saying, he listened because I looked at the number of people online and the people that have showed up at adele's rallies. And with, you know, with Kennedy and all that it's a lot of people. So there's and there's a lot of, of people that have. A concern that, that is that is legitimate and let. Well, I mean how you can't build a more angry Ari. The parents never harming their child on these are some v. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. You har. I mean. Yeah. And you know, because you trust the system and that is a legitimate complain. It you trust the system. You take the child into get vaccinated or you take them in, you know, e- even you, you take him in for a certain kind of drug, and they have an adverse reaction to it. And will you send I trusted you and, you know, and you let me down while let's, let's expand some of the testing, let's say we map some of the some of the, the antibodies that could be president. And maybe we take a test to say, hey, listen, you're gonna you're gonna have a paradoxical effect to this, you know, to this, so that gives them not only I mean if they didn't want to take one take a backseat in the first place. If that is the case, then they have a medical reason not to take the maximum right? Which would be enough for most people to say, okay. We're not gonna make them do it, but not in California. Well, I don't understand. Here's the thing, I don't in California. I don't understand the law specifically, and I've had to do some more foreign lately in the past decade. That's all. I mean, dude, they're you know they're giving aid to illegal aliens. And then you have people out there, taking dumps on the street thousand people homeless in LA county alone. And they just approved for not to go down a rabbit hole. But, you know, it's a fact, they gave free medical to all the that's just laughing. Arkansas's. That's crazy. So that is one of the that is one of the issues that that's happening. And here's here's the thing that I that I pointed out to you also one of the issues that I've had with the, the autism debate in vaccines. Is that there's what the language it would be easier for researchers? And scientists to us would say, hey listen, certain vaccines have have enabled autism like symptoms. I would be more palatable, because one of the things is we don't know what causes autism. We don't very their varying levels of autism. Right. And if you take a look, let's take a look at this, if you have a kid with ours, burgers syndrome. Okay. And he's high functioning, there are some athletes that have had, you know, cases of Montezuma that are wonderful athletes. They just can't function, mentally and their other kids, that are let's say idiot savant and you, you put them in the you know, they couldn't tie their shoe. So you and both of them suffer from the same disease. So and then we say, oh, this is, you know, it's autism. It's such wide funnel that. And I'm like, wait the autism like symptoms autism like symptoms and what you have is say, okay, what is the autism like sent? That your, your kid is, is showing because that way, maybe we can math it. I get it. Yeah. And, and maybe that is the. And you've just opened some doors. I don't know how far as, as a scientist does. But. All I know. And here's the thing that we're willing. And this is the thing that we're willing to do is if you tell me the, let's say the ailment that you have. Okay. Let's say that you have a neurological, ailment, okay? That, you know, first of all, you have numbness in your arm. Okay. And so I understand that from a research point where I need to go back and map because if you know, if you're telling me that you have numbness, in your arm, there's an Muira neurological map that I can start going down. I can say, okay, did you. Did you pinch your, your bronchial tendon is at pressure on your c two c three? You know, I can start going down and doing research on it. But if you're saying, oh, I just I'm in pain. I, I don't know where to start on that. And that's the thing that I that I've said, you know, that we said earlier, it, did you buy a chance, did you happen to look up when I was talking about the chemotherapy, blindness. Yeah, look it up a little bit. Scary. Isn't it? It is. It is. I mean, I've seen I've seen what that, that treatment can do to people. I mean, you know, of course, their hair falls out what people lose their hearing, some people with brain, you know with rank tumors when they get treated heavily their sometimes their schools. Don't grow to full size, and, you know, all kinds of stuff. Right. So now what you have is you have pressure on the ocular nerve. Right. So and that's caused by. The receptor the drug acting as you know, block certain receptors and you wind up being blind from it. Now if you would say, listen. To the average person. I forgive me for this one. Okay. To the person that has cancer. If you said to them, do you want to be cured of cancer? Or would you like to be blind to get think what do you think they're going to choose? Interesting question I knew to site. Gonna choose site and just like cancer my own way. I mean seriously. I mean you know, and I got in one that I got a I, I wanna give. One of the things that, that I, I want to say about with, with your friend, Tim, and he may we had a conversation with him a few, you know, a a while back, but he made some valid points. He said, listen, one of the things that we, we do have in our system is we have more heavy metals than we've ever had before. True. And if we started removing those heavy metals, and, and that's where gave me the idea of, you know, the, you know, the applied compounds and the original my original study was on on sales, which is polyethylenes and the damage. They do to, you know, the human in, if there are some applaud compounds that are available out there to, to at least stop the damage. The modern Qendra that was our original research. That's where we started out and we're and we're still studying that, but he, he made some valid point. It said, listen, when you when you have homies taxes and everything is working correctly. You remove those toxins either, you know, by flushing them out of your system. But when when they overbalanced or they're, they're over saturating you, you then have to take corrective measures. So maybe what we're what? We've done is in certain areas of the country, people are exposed to different levels of contaminants, different level of toxins, and different level of. Of let's say bad actors because the one thing that we did study. And this is I didn't get a chance to talk about this on Dell show. But we've there's a study that is going on right now. We're participating in, which is in overseas on, there's a couple of, of places that burnt plastic is happening in one of the places in is an Acura, Ghana, the other places, is in Nigeria and the other one is in Pakistan, the people that are around these trash dumps that are burning burning plastic are mimicking the signs of autism kids. And what we think is. And again, this is theory because I what I don't want. Here's what I want your listeners to, to take away from this when, when he listened to this is that they have that there are people on that are on your side, and working on this to say, hey, listen. We wanna make the world better. But here's here's a hypothesis that we maybe it's the absorption of certain let's say. Polyethylenes that is causing some of the issues. Maybe it's the in in is when you have vapor that people in there's a place in Philip in Pennsylvania. The people are living closer trash, dump they're doing mimicking, the same thing. That maybe it's the let's clean up the environment. So we can at least have some of these, let's say, symptoms, less pervasive. What are your thoughts, Jordan? I don't know how, how far you go down the rabbit hole on Chem trails. Obviously, we have contrails that I don't know if you've even sign onto Kim trails, but the lower is they're spraying barium. The lawyer is at their spring, barium aluminum into that, MS fair, and that could be another way that we're ingesting so many metal metallic toxins. But if you don't even have to go through the Cantrell. All you gotta do is go look at it at a factory that is that is making, you know, you, you go take a look at Gary Indiana. And you take a look at some of the controls there and the only way to scrub some of those toxins from the is calcium nitrate now that is what a p a p uses to scrub its emissions from certain, you know, the. Their power plants. Here's the thing. There's nothing one hundred percent accurate. And if you take a look at coal towns, some of them do mimic, you know, mimic ailments of, of. Let's say, you know, autism or developmental disability a John store was on there today and you take a look at some of the firefighters they look lethargic and everything else. And so that is a big issue. I don't know. You know, the Chem trails, I'm not willing. I'm not ready to go down rabbit hole. But we've, we've introduced certain toxins into the atmosphere that weren't made to go together. And that's that is a sense of jenex going the opposite direction where we believe or you believe at least that generations of people getting vaccines has built up a tolerance. Or sicknesses in their offspring, and that's where the tighter test has to come in and all that. But could it be going back the other way? You know, John in the same coal town, general Asian West Virginia. Whatever where it goes the other way in terms of eugenics. Yeah, because you're, you know, you take a look at, you know, let's, let's take a look at, at a common ailment, which is if you take a look at breast cancer, breast cancer is one of those ones that if your mom had breast cancer, you're likely to develop it. I mean they were eating the same food though or drinking the same water. That's more environmental because environmental because you get into, like Dr Bruce Lipton EPA genetics. Why don't both twins? Get cancer family. I mean, people should be looking at that more than family history. The only family history is used for them as to explore geographically, what's going on there. Right city, that say that last part again. It's an environmental study, more more so than genetic grandma, mother daughter, that get breast cancer you recognize as they're being issue in the in the immediate area because everybody's getting sick not just not just family history. Wise you see what I'm saying? Right. I mean, there there is there are places in the United States, that are, let's say, they're, they're called cancer clusters. Why do people develop in certain areas it could be the? It could be. The there are certain toxins in that in that area or mass outbreaks to Burke yellow. Down to LA and they have the right. I mean and it goes in. And in the city. Yeah. I mean, you've got typhoid typhus, and I and I said that tune and people, you know, in the last debate, they're like, oh, type of snow. They had typhoid I said that. And people are like no, they don't. I'm like, yes, they had typhoid they have typhus in downtown LA. These are, you know, I mean it wasn't joking with us that they had to imagine. How baby you've seen city hall in downtown LA? They have to rip all the carpet out of the entire building, because type percents spread in that building, right? Yeah. And here is here's the, the issue that going down the road. We're planning on doing and just to tell you research we're going to start. We're going to test a lot of compounds. And we're we're, we're gonna do is we're going to test, basically the paradoxical effect of certain antibiotics and certain compounds to see if they create geometrical pattern. That's what we're going to look at, and it's going to take us a while. This is not something that's going to happen overnight. And part of it is because we're not taking funding from other groups. We want our study to be so companies are funding your studies now. No pharmaceutical no-go fun in no cloud. You know, it's all our own money, and it's the group that has with us are all people that were not poor. We're not asking. We're not going to ask for donations what we're gonna do is. We're going to start publishing results in the next thirty days and we're going to say, hey, this is where this is what we've tested this is where, and we're going to give some information to people that, are you give you keep tracking results further out, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get we're going to give results that go as long as we keep doing research on, you know, unless somebody finds me. You know, tells Hillary that I have or emails. I mean, you know, you, you know. It'll be a long while coming. But I think what we're going to have you back on for updates is going to be also. Yeah. I mean, and here's here's a couple of the things that here's the one theory that we do have is that I think one of the, the, the one question that I tried to find out in this is something that I cannot get an answer to. And, and I think maybe it's because. No one is teaching the public. Why aren't why aren't some of them some of the if YouTube and others would stop demonetizing us on censoring us? Maybe more people would be hearing about, at least, you know, the science well and here, here's my question. Why aren't why aren't the people that have had adverse reactions to the vaccines, or to some of the other issues? Why haven't they gotten any countermeasures in treatment, I would say this, I would say this person foremost that the law has to be rescinded Jeff? You might remember the name of it, that made the US tax put US tax payer on the hook for all lawsuits on vaccines side effects, and things like that, where they just allowed it congress passed the law where you can't. It's. But we're on the hook though for for all those settlements. And I tell you what that money is to be rescinded and changed on the pharmaceutical companies they do have to pay on their own. That's that's that's gotta stop. Well, and so it's the vaccine exemption Bill are now is passed. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty five or nine hundred eighty six. I it was passed by Reagan. Why ask yourself why nobody on the news has ever talked about this that, right? They're just not alone. I you know, here's the thing. I don't know why a lot of it. Why a lot of people haven't I really don't and it's the national childhood companies make up a massive amount of money for. Television networks for marketing. So here's the thing. I'm not defending pharma pharmaceuticals, and it's the national childhood vaccine injury act of nineteen eighty six and I'm not I'm not defending them. I'm here. Here's what I think we can do here. Here. Here's long-term and it might not happen today might happen. Maybe a year from now. Maybe we can we can figure out and we and here's the thing we have some latte, what we're going to do is we're going to, we've contacted some labs around the country we have relate. Let's say relationships with, and we want to give them the same information. The same. Had offices and we want into their independent labs that we we know people, they're at they're not any not controlled and basically, want to say run these tests for us there. See, when you get the same result, and maybe we can come up with a test that says, or a pattern it says, in a group of our population. This is what's going to happen. This is you're going to have a paradoxical effect, or that you're going to have an adverse reaction to a vaccine or into an antibiotic based on a test that we can give you. No, I think that, that would be that would be well, it's very important to parents. I would hope my goodness. It's the safety of their children. So that's what it comes down to what other thing I tried to jump in that you were you were on a roll, Brian ask you this before we let you go. You know we were talking about stem cells for a little bit. There is a fetal cells. Now, I know a lot of people want to South America places like that for stem cell therapy. Right track. Where is all the baby blood? Well, does anybody thought about that it there are? It depends. Do you want me to do? You want me to spell it out where does it come? This is no, it does not, not. According, I don't know if we hold on. Let me let me say that I can't answer that easily there. Are there are people that are they're called universal donors? There are. Would a universal donor be when it comes to stem cells. For example, you. Say that again, what age group for universal donor to be able to have stem cells. Well, a lot of it comes from Mons. I lot of it does come from, you know. Yeah. And that's where now I haven't studied here, here's the thing before I go down this road. I have not studied this part of it because this is not something. No. This is a different. This is a different area though, that you know. And, and a lot of the time, there's a, there's a lot of in fetal DNA is a lot of the moms vein so in so about ten percent of the DNA comes from the mom now. This is a complex issue. And if you want, I can, you know, I have people that were doing research with I can give you the bay better answers, I, but I mean it's. Definitely will do that south because it's not an easy. It's not an easy thing as you know. Coming from plant. I you know, I don't know if you're going down the Planned Parenthood thing, I don't know. I just don't know. It's this is not something so hard. We know that. Yeah. And they sell fetal tissue. And that is, but I don't know if that is the tissue that they're using four freaky stuff, though. It is. And here's the thing. And that's why a lot of people are concerned the babies are a businessman. It's a, it's a, it's a conveyor belt, it's scary to think about, but that's what it is. They started into that. And here's here's one of the other thing now stem cells are a different thing. Most of them. They come from. They the stem cells come from a lot of embryos that are three to five days, old now, it is called a blouse assist. And in. So those are a lot of, of that's where a lot of it comes from. Now, if you want to find out. You just go to stem cells dot NIH dot gov and to answer a lot of it. Now. Here's here's one of the things that I will say they are. There's a lot of them not all labs are the same, not all research is the same and not all. Not all pharmaceutical companies are the same. So there are differences, even within that community. So I like I said, I. Up until this last year. I, I haven't studied fetal DNA haven't studied stem cells that much as well. I should say that we haven't studied where the origination of the stem cells. Because that that's not part of a research researches the pathology the biology once. It's in the system. That's what are specially is and, and let me tell you, it is. It's hard enough to do way to let alone going, you know to, to going into other around other minutes. Let's I know you, you said, you didn't need people donating. But those are some where people, you know, could send their money now. Now, now because here here's the thing that I here's a here is what I think is. And I'll tell you the reason why, and I and I will say this listeners, this is the exact reason we want to be self funded because I don't want, you know, if we happen to go in the court of public opinion and us, say, give this from outside sources, and that's where to do it, we didn't take a dime from outside sources, we didn't make any money off of this. Because let's say you have a bad actor. Let's say you have about actor from, you know, let's say pharmaceutical company ABC and they start donating, and they start donating, and then they start and they make the money coming up with the proper tests for parents to applaud children. What's going to happen, that's where you become a multimillionaire, really? Well, and that's what I think the patent we're not going to sell the pan. But what we can be able to do is take tighter test, and expanded and give about six more mapping. Six more maps, because one of the things that people have done is they've gone to the t one and t two cells. Well, maybe that's not the only ones where you need to test because. You know, until there was a test for Lou Gehrig's disease. There wasn't until there was a. Attests riccar. You know, you know, non-hodgkin's lymphoma there wasn't, and so I think that maybe it's the test, we develop a test, and we say, hey, this is the task, you know. Have your kid tested? You know, if if they show these patterns, we're going to do is give a range based on computational biology. Let's say you're based on, you know, thirty million people in the United States. This is the range of where. People fall into the safe range if you're at this range, you're, you're at risk, if you're not at this range, maybe you're not at risk. But maybe like I said, there is a and there is a there is one another university where we're working with in California. And I did not know let me tell you some of the stuff that California's doing. I did not know till after the show because again, we don't study. I I'm not I'm not study. That's a pretty good, stop stuff. Yeah. And I think part of these. Yeah. And I think. And here's the here's the thing that I worry about, is what happens is you give a vaccine to a kid, or you give, let's say this. Here's one of my let me give you a prime example of where this is scary. Let me give you a scary scenario and go away from the, the vaccines for a second. All right. We have human. We have human genome, the human genome project. Right. Right. Let's say that Jeffrey, for example, has a an antibody and it, it stops a disease, because I don't know what the diseases. Let's say it's, you know, he if he it stops you from having let's say, let's just go down and read deep rabbit hole. Let's say it stops you from having Lou Gehrig's disease. What would stop the government? If you start going that way, what would stop it without body atonomy, what would stop you from going to Jeffrey putting him in the lab and drawing blood from him every week to make a. And you know a cure for a disease now that's happened before. And I mean, that is happy before the United States and they just didn't tell her, but what happens in that scenario, how would, you know, and you can't stop it. Humans, which would studies for those. Which operations, okay? So there was a a while back. There was a woman by the name of Henrietta lacks. Okay. And. It. She. Was her. Herself had some unbelievable properties to fight cervical cancer. Okay. And so they. The hospital used her cells. To fight, you know, basically, you know, to do scientific research, medical research, and they didn't she didn't know about it. And she was she was an unwilling participant. Now, let let's lawsuit. She died nineteen fifty one. And but she when they used yourselves they, they did it without her consent. But let let, let me ask you this. How old was she went to died? Thirty one nine and she died in nineteen fifty one but it's just all you gotta do is Google Henrietta lacks, and, and that's a rapid diet thirty one she had cancer. So they tested her. Even though they found out, she had antibodies to fight it, right. Yeah. And so it's a it's a compelling. It's a compelling story. And so. So you're saying you're saying, Khimik this very clear you're saying that these doctors are government or whoever experimented on her and tried to get her cancer. You think not a know ourselves has were drying her blood right there. Everyone. That's that makes no sense. Right. She had a in when they took an herself. I mean she had she had died from basic since Jeff. What's that now? Can sense either? No. But I mean, this is before this is you wanna go down rabbit hole. You read up about Henrietta lacks. But here, here's what I'm going down the rabbit hole claim while I understand it. But I'm I go down different rabbit, holes menu. You know, we're just. Also George, but hear me out on this give you let me give you a nightmare scenario. Okay. Let me give you a nightmare scenario that, that, that why I think body atonomy is important it regardless whether it's, it's for, you know. And I and I tell you this popular opinion, but whether it's for abortion, whether it's for blood, you know, blood transfusions, whether it is for organ donor. Let me give you a let me give you a nightmare scenario. Let's say twenty twenty let's say twenty thirty you can't get. Let's say twelve years now we have a new president, whoever that person is in, in twenty twenty eight. Let's say that you president is John Doe. Let's say he has a heart tumor and there's only to file recipients in the United States that can donate a hard time for an open. You know, our heart transplant and either he gets a heart transplant or he dies. That's a nightmare and do you kill those people to take their or even a kidney? But to say let's not be as invasive as you gotta to kill them. Let's say there's only two people in, in the United States, they go to them and say, we're going to take your kidney, because it's more important for you to, to for the president of the United States to have your kidney than for you to keep it. That's, that's, that's where that's where the loss of body of Tana made ends up is what you're saying. I mean that is that's a scare or you know, let's say anything just I mean carving, the Oregon's out of people. But I mean but this economy issue. Yeah. But I mean, isn't that a body atonomy issue is at that, you know? So I look at it. I mean, I know that's a nightmare scenario. And I know that is a big reach. But if we keep saying to people know your property of the state and, and we do get like, like I said for ninety five percent for a majority of the population, whatever that number is say it's between ninety to ninety five ninety one eighty eight that, you know, let's say, vaccines are safe. But let's say that to one percent of the population that you're going to have an adverse reaction. We're going to give them to you, anyway. And if you die, you die is that I and that's what I forget, what it's called, I think it's called like L D DA when they're when they're going through pharmaceutical drugs like lease death allow, we know some people are going to die. But there's a certain threshold of L D that they will allow an order and still drugs can be made legal. Right. And that's what I but, but I'm saying is that think about think about all the other pharmaceutical stuff that's advertised on TV? I mean you know, the, the anti-depressants that may cause suicide tendencies. Well, I mean death death is even include, like, have the commercial is decided you generally done with you jump off a building. But if you're going to if you're going to talk about this, as you know, take away the vaccine argument. There's just let's you know, let's not even sh shell fine. But you take a look at, at an argument of why body atonomy is important. That is the reason why what happens if they need a bone marrow transplant for the president or the speaker of the house. You're the only one that fits that. And we have a mapping sequence that says, you're a donor. Do we go and get a do we go and take you take a take a bone marrow transplant to give it to them because without body? Atonomy. That that's, that's a valid argument. Do you wanna go down that? Do you want to go down that that road? You can stop injecting their children. Vaccines leads to Ono. We're gonna take your. But I mean, but that is a valid argument. And I. And I'm torn with that, too. I mean, let me tell you this as a researcher, I'm torn on both sides at the same time I'm saying, hey, listen from retorted population. Yeah. You need vaccines. But hey. The government can't tell me what to do, and we're going to we're going to then all, I mean, if, if there's anything to revolt over, it's over that of the government telling you, you have to inject your children. Well, and here's, here's the, let's say the plan b or c of this, if there are some times that the government has to step in, because people are stupid. Let's be honest about that. I mean seriously. Well, yeah. Painting yellow lines in the middle roads. I get it. Yeah, I or you know, we got warning labels on toasters. But when you when you. When you start having to go down. You know, do you want to the government to act soa, Thomas -ly that they, they don't look at exceptions? And, and I got into this. And if you would indulge me for a few minutes, I, I don't know how much time you want to go through, but I wanna I wanna talk about Alfie Evans for a couple of minutes, and eight more minutes where I was torn on this Alfie Evans is a golden unicorn K, and I got into this argument because I know that disease and have actually we've studied that disease because it mimics another disease, and who was personally Alfie Evans was the young boy in, in England who had depleted DNA syndrome. And the they wanted to take him to Italy for treatment, or they wanted to take him to the United States, and there's country made them stay in the hospital while there's there's more compelling to that. But let, let me let me say this. There's only sixteen people in the history of the world that have had his disease sixteen in the history of the world, sixteen people have had his disease. That's it. There it is. One of those diseases that I wish God would have never you know, could disadvant- let let's be honest. It's the worst crippling disease in the history of the world, but only six people have gotten it. Right. And, and I gotta do. Janson. We're a million, but I got into an argument with, with a guy about this and said, listen, there's some compelling but. Yeah, the cancer. But one of the things I said, what one of the things that, that the argument countered that said he'd listen. Let the parents decide how they want their child to die. That, that's that. That was the argument. Now I was like, listen. There's nothing that would could've treated the kit. Nothing and I don't see foresee science in the near future being able to to cure the to solve it. I don't foresee it the way it works is basically unravels your DNA, and you become a bag of goot. No one has lived past six with no one is actually live past three. It's got one hundred percents Pataudi rate, and it is very dangerous. It's, it's once you get your debt, you're going to die. I'm sorry. You know you drew the short end of the straw in the lottery of life. But the argument was let the parents decide how the kid dies let not that the kid is going to die at least let them let them. Let them let them. Cry. Hey, we can go to Italy for special treatment kit. Lives to be themselves there or what? No, there's no there's no, there's no treatment that will help. I mean, you, you might get another six months, but the kid is going to be an excruciating pain. Because you're one of the issues is that all the pain receptors the way that you process pain, you, you're going to be in pain, the whole time, and you're going to be numb in pain. It's equivalent to the best way I can say it's to having a migraine headache with a stroke. That that's, that's the best description the disease. But the, the, the one argument was saying he'd listen. It's not that we want the government to say, hey, listen, you're going to die. But hey, at least let us have some humane treatment prior to, you know, the, the kid expired, now, now's a very argument that, that was a compelling argument. And on both sides our right? That, that's an argument where both sides. Right. So maybe. He we have to expand and say, listen, we've got to do something about body atonomy at the same time preventing mass stupidity. Yeah. Master depite mass casualty. And that's a fine line. I don't want I that's you know. Said before we go be said or, you know, the lower levels being partially attributed to sanitation running water know sewage-treatment. Yes, there's a lot of a lot of pox in our. There's a lot of toxins that have been released into our, you know, into the ecosystem that weren't there before. And but, but at the same time, say running water, and everything else is has had to have a reduction of the mass reduction in a lot of diseases. Yeah. I mean it has I mean you know, here's the one the one of the things that we've done is. You know, one of the reasons we, we have had a rise in autism rates is because the kids that are allowed today that suffer from extreme autism fifty or sixty years ago would have been dead. They're just metallic rate would have been the seventy autism richer. Still roller George. I you have to show me those numbers, Pat because. I have I haven't seen a geometrical expansion since the autism spectrum was co defied, and I think it was two thousand and two it's the, the rates have been roughly stayed the same now that could be because of the way they're, they're testing for ours, burgers syndrome any extremes. But in the last since like two thousand two the rates have state about the same that you have compelling data that shows opposite. I I'm more willing to look at it, but that's something I'd like to look up. You know, it says. Prevalence went up fifteen percents to one fifty nine children CDC increases estimates. That's insane. Yeah. I mean again, we can look that up. CDC increases estimate of autism prevalence by fifteen percent. Where where are you looking to wanted fifty nine where you looking at up at or semi autismspeaks dot org. Yeah. We can take and that, honestly, I have to take a look at. I mean like I said, I can I can once I look at the numbers, I can see if it's Jim metric, or linear, so let me, let me give you give you an idea two thousand four. My god. Listen to this, this, this graph it says one in one hundred sixty six thousand four and it kept jumping up. One one eighty eight in in twenty twelve all the way up to one in fifty nine now. So it is still increasing, and it's increasing at a pretty rapid rate. Is it? Let me ask you a question. Is it because of our the is it because what they're classifying as autism has widen, or there's more. I mean you know you can look at it but it's basically CDC is limited in as autism so like symptoms. Whatever it is, bro. It's, it's growing so that we can, we can look. I'll look it up. I'd be happy. And that's why I said, I'm not I'm not opposed to doing research to say what, what exactly are the the symptoms, and maybe and then may here, here's the flipside of it. Maybe what we can find out is that is there a trigger that in certain insert systems, whether it's the mom or exposure to let's say polyethylene say leads, or some, some toxin that leads. Okay. Well, the test, and it'd be done still and. So, yeah, people can go to that, that website again. WWW dot autismspeaks dot org. And they can look at that read that article themselves. So anyway, George working people. Find you on Twitter Facebook on, you know, listen to your radio show. Well, I they can let listen to my radio show at vet radio, syndicate, the on Facebook, and we're going to think at the at the end of the month, we're gonna launch Twitter page. But when we launch our research, and it's going to be called, you know, the applaud compounds t testing we're gonna have a we're going to spread that into all over Facebook. But so we can we can also then print that on our website that conspiracy. Yeah. I mean it's going to have data on there. It's going to have, you know, it's going to have some research data, it's going to have you know what to do. In case you do have an adverse reaction to a. Vaccine, and other non just vaccines. But other other drugs, and that way, we can at least get an idea of where you're at. And then we we're working with to medical professionals in order to get that, that test kind of code defied, because what I think is happening with a lot of people that are just they're, they're just being dismissed. And that's and that's not right. That's not fair to anyone. Right. Right. Okay. Jeff, you've got man just been awesome. Do a lot of information. I was very anxious to hear. Like I said, Georgia's feedback from from, from the debate what he learned what you know, he thought was Bs. But it sounds like some progress is being made. That's like we say all the time and the truth. Well, I mean, it's a pleasant exchange of ideas that opened other people's minds Georgia's mind other people's minds. And like we said, George, thank you so much for the for the work that you're continuing to do and I'll be very anxious. I'm as I'm thinking a lot of our listeners are going to be throughout the summer months, coming ahead on, on the progress. You've been making in the studies. Yeah. I think is, as we expand our research, and we expand the testing, I want to be able to publish results and say, hey, listen. This is what we're finding out on certain EDS certain. Events and maybe this can help you. I mean like you said, I'm not hurt it can't hurt. And if, if nothing else, here's the thing if we did the research, and we publish it, and somebody else can say can pick up on something that we missed. 'cause where does sometimes we're more wrong than right? I mean seriously. There's some compounds we test last year. We thought had all the prompts promising we tested them. None of them worked, and we're like and we had to throw out. I mean, we literally had to start from blocks zero again. And, and that was to, to fight, you know, damage done by polyethylene, and we're like now that they didn't work, well, I hope it all been all of it goes a long way in increasing. What we we know today is informed, consent, which really isn't that informed. So again, man very much, appreciate what you great. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. So we'll have you back on definitely keep me posted as you have been with all your. Colts. And then what we'll get you back on the near future. I appreciate it. Pat guys everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you soon.

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Harvest Sunday | I Want to be a Tree

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Harvest Sunday | I Want to be a Tree

"Welcome thanks joining basingstoke. Salvation for more information go to www salvation army dot. Co Dot UK forward slash basingstoke. Take Your Bible with you this morning then invited to turn to our passage for this morning. SOM- chapter one some one and we're reading the whole psalm verses. One to six if you're using one of our bibles that you picked up on the way and it's on page five hundred forty three and mind if you picked up a seminar outline when he came in and that will help you as we look at this passage together. Let's is pray father. God as we open your word again this morning we ask that you speak to us. That your challenges. We ask that you quit paths for this coming week. As you invite us through this SOM- this morning to make choices. We also you will help us to make the right choices. Not just in the moment but in every moment as we face more choices help us to make those choices in line in with the choice that we make in response to this passage this morning. We're also you'll be with US and speak to us in the coming moments and we awesome praising your name as we celebrate harvest Sunday together this morning I wonder what pops into your mind if I use the word harvest. What pops into your mind I guess for many of us there will will be pictures of nature it might be the harvest fields the fields of wheat and barley and other things or you might think back to earlier in the summer when in some of the fields were filled with rapeseed and all of those sorts of things it might be Other harvests harvest fish for some of us have been on the coast in the last few weeks and been able to taste. Fishers should really taste and we might think about harvest of fish but lots of things things in the natural world. I guess that's what immediately comes to mind when we think about harvest now for some people one of the best things about the natural world old trees is anybody here. Tree hugger really loves trees Allen and yes and ruth on Stein and Jean or a few others. There's really love trees. My mom loved trees in fact she loved them so much. It became a bit of a family joke. There will be quite often times when we were out out journeying as a family together new suddenly realize that moment gone rather quiet amway would say what are you thinking about mom and she'd say look at those trees All those different shades of green. Now we had that response so often that it became a family joke in the end and sometimes we would fill the silence sweet. Oh look at all those lovely trees but different shades of green but actually the last few years I have come to love trees. He's perhaps in the same way as my mum did because they do so much. Don't they when you think about what a tree provides. It provides so much so we can provide shade when you go out in the height of summer and you take out on a walk and he play ball with him play ball for ten fifteen minutes and then he starts agaist bit hot and a and a bit petty and all of that kind of stuff and so he'll go and fetch the bowl and then he will find the shade of a tree to kind of sit under while you go and collect the ball From him because he's hot realizes naturally that if he goes and sits under a trade and he gets some shade and it's not quite so hot there obviously slee trees quite often bear fruit or nuts so there are lots of people here Derek and Filipinos one of them but there are others diamond Jenner and others as well L. recollecting fruit from the trees at the moment and from what I've seen is been a particularly good year for Apple's is that right yeah. Lots of people are collecting apples from there apple trees and there will be other fruits and things coming in. At the moment they provide free. They provide food forest Niad oxygen to the air. So you'll have heard in the news over. The last few days concerns over the devastation in the Amazon rainforest forest and they call the Amazon rainforest the lungs of the world because those trees provides so much oxygen for our world. Obviously when they cut down trees can be used as wood for fuel and also lumber for shelter so we build houses and we build our buildings from. I'm would at least in in some way. And they offer protect protection from the wind. They can provide shelter in the rain. There foilage roots avoid erosion through soil erosion and of course as my mom discovered tried to teach us. They're beautiful in shape and variety and they're so common guess that most places in the world I can perhaps think of a two or three places where there may not be but in most places in the world you will. We'll find trees and so because they're so common Bible mentions trees on lots of occasions. Jesus parables about trees and Miss Som- that we're looking at this morning some one the psalm that opens this big book of one hundred fifty poems and songs talks about trees. He's as a common analogy for someone for something. So we're going to listen to stand as he comes and reads to us this Psalm Psalm. One on page five hundred forty three or the words are on the screen some one versus one to six blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the week. Eight eight or stand in their way of centers or sit in the seat of markers but he's Deloitte is in the law of the Lord and on his law he meditates. It's Day annoyed. He is like a tree planted by streams of water which yields its fruit in season. And whose leaf does not wither will have. He does prosperous. Not so the wicked. They are like that. The wind blows away therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment node centers in the assembly of the righteous for the Lord watches over the way of the righteous but the way of the wicked will perish on man. He's done a farmer. Once planted to fruit trees on opposite sides of his property. He planted one tree to provide a hedge sure to hide the unsightly view of an old landfill and he planted the other one on the other side of property to provide shade to rest. Nia Recall Mountain stream which ran down beside one of these fields. As the two trees grew they both began to produce flowers and then free and one day the farmer decided to cover the fruit from the trees nearest from the tree that was nearest his house so that was one that was used to be a hedge against the landfill as brought the food fruit inside the house he noticed that it was a little deformed. The symmetry of the food wasn't quite right right but the fruits still looked edible later that evening while he was sitting on his porch farmer took one of the pieces of fruit for a snack but biking into two he found the fruits to be extremely bitter and completely inedible casting. Not Free to society looked across the field meals to the other tree that had been planted by the mountain stream that ran by one of his failed so walking across that failed. The farmer took a piece of fruit from the tree. I'm bit into it not surprisingly I guess the fruit if they stray was sweet and delicious so he gathered several more pieces of fruit it and took them back to his house. The question that arises from that story on from Psalm. One this this morning is which trees are you. which tree are you which tree amoy why I guess for any of us who have anything to do with gardening? Even those who props even know only about gardening in theory we we would know that. The fruit of each tree in that story was greatly affected by the nutrition to the root. It's the route that bears the fruit. It's the root the Baz the fruits just as the tree that grew by the landfill. Greb rebe bitter and offered bitter fruit. The tree by the steam stream produced sweet fruit and this morning. The psalmist says says to us that we have a choice we can either choose to put our roots down into a landfill of sin and wickedness All we can choose to put our fruit down into the cool refreshing stream of the law of the Lord. The psalmist says that's the choice that we have to make. We are either planted a matured in landfill of sin and wickedness. That's all we are planted matured in the cool refreshing stream of God's word so what choice choice is it that we make today see according to the Psalmist in Psalm. One it's an the either or choice. It's either one or the other the world will say well you know. Our choices are kind of gray relief. They're not really black and white. You know we can make whatever choice. We like whatever choice. We're happy with as long as it doesn't hurt. Anyone else Osama says no no no. There's no grey here. It's like white. What's the choice? The psalmist says that the righteous man. The righteous person is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit and it's season it's leaf does not wither in all that he does he prosperous prosperous. The wicked are not so but I like chaff that the wind drives away. There's no there's no gray area there is there. You're either one or the other we can either follow God's teaching and prosper all we can follow the ways of the wicked and we'll be driven away like chaff in the wind a stop up choice black or white now. Do you get point just in case you. Don't the PSALMIST puts black DOC and white all the way through the Psalm so you look through the psalm and you see streams of water and driving wind. You see fruity and leafy trees and you see discarded chaff you see prospering. And perishing belonging or not belonging the whole point of this psalm is this is a black and white choice and you need to choose your path. Are you gonna go the way of streams of water and fruit and leafy trees and prospering and belonging or are you going to go down. The Path off of driving wind discarded chaff perishing a not belonging. which path will you take? You need to make a choice. Ace now I could just leave it there. COULDN'T I. Yeah I could just say right. That's the end end of the lesson and we could move on now. I don't necessarily need to know your questions this morning but does anybody have any questions about that. No you're all quite happy with that black and white choice. Yeah no thank you. Brenda Brenda is not so. I need to keep preaching team for Brendor at least so if the salmon goes on very a long time even though blame Brenda twits you see the problem is we. Don't live in an either or world do we. We don't live in a black and white world. We don't live in that world that the psalmist seems to be talking about. Even those of us who have chosen chose choosen chose a Nepal off of righteousness. Even those who have chosen to plant themselves offs in streams of Mountain Water in the law of the Lord we experienced doubt we experience grief. We experience free fear. Fear it's not as wide as we think we meditate on God's teaching we we tried to put roots down into those cool mountain streams uh-huh and into the lore of the Lord but we face pressure from the world around us. And Have you noticed that sometimes in the world the wicked win the sound is seems to be wrong. The psalmist says well the the the righteous will prosper but a wicked will be droned AH driven away like chaff in the wind but we look around our world and that doesn't seem to be the case sometimes that we could win and you know what sometimes the right just lose. The psalmist says the righteous will prosper. For How many times have you you said to someone you know. That person or those people are lovely people. They live great lives they live lives that are reflect the glory of God. You know what. They don't deserve what they've been given by life. Anybody ever said anything. Sometimes I I just loose and they face tragedy and wrong and some of you might find this difficult to believe. None of us are perfect. Anybody here perfect. None of us are perfect we seek righteousness we seek to do good. We seek to make the right choice. We seek. Take the right path. But we're also Cintas in need of God's grace we want to be in right relationship with God and in right relationship with those around us but sometimes we get it wrong. So do we just throw this psalm out and decide. Well I'm sorry. But the summons is wrong I'm never going to read this psalm again. Or is the psalmist trying to teach US something. Well first thing we need to know is that this psalm is a wisdom psalm. It's written in a particular way and it's written for a particular accuser purpose. It is there to give us wisdom. It is there to teach and instruct us not to say well this is the way that the world is but actually this is the way you need to act in the world. The purpose of this psalm is to encourage us and to challenge us to meditate on the teaching of God throughout our lives so that he can give us guidance Leiden on how we live on how we choose those two paths first of all. There's some challenges us to be planted. Wanted if you're a tree that belongs to a forest then you're likely to have got there by just random. means by seeds being moved around by the wind or by birds however the seeds get planted. kind of planted randomly but in in a garden tree is placed in a particular position. If you have a new tree that you want to plan a new try and plan to in the right environment. You don't planted near landfill you planted near the mountain stream or in your garden if you don't have a mountain stream or landfill you look for either Shade Sunshine. Whatever is that the tree needs your look for good soil rather than props Pau soil it? The tree is planted deliberately. And this psalm. says allow yourselves to be planted deliberately by the master gardener for the specific purpose hapless that he has called you to and through the word. Of God's by meditating on the word of God every day live live out my purpose if God wants you to be an apple tree than live out purpose. I'm produce apples. What ever free to ease that? He has called you to understand. The psalmist. Says that if you put your hands hands if you put yourself in the hands of the master gardener then nothing in your life is haphazard he has under control there is a purpose us and our plan to everything in your life. So that's the first thing. Allow yourself to be planted and to be planted in the right right place for you. And secondly the psalmist encourages us that when a master gardener chooses to plant is by the streams of righteousness where he chooses to plant Tusk will be somewhere where he will provide us with the nourishment that we need the life giving nourishment that we need if if we allow ourselves to be planted where God wants to apply. Plant US then he will gave us his holy spirit of life so rather rather than trying to nourish and support ourselves. We can drink from his spiritual power. If you think back to those two trees in my story I imagine the tree that was planted by the landfill had to work really hard to get any kind of nourishment out there. I mean it's a miracle that it produced any fruit of tall even. NFL Freak turned out to be bitter but the tree that was planted by the mountain stream. Next to the field wouldn't have. I've had to work nearly as hard to get the nourishment that it needs to be able to produce sweet fruit in the same way if we're plummeted in the right place if we allow God to put us in the right place and we don't have to work hard for nourishment because because he will give it to US rather than trying to nourish and support ourselves. We can drink from his spiritual cower instead we can meditate a on his word and he will help us to understand that word we can communicate with God through prayer and you know what the Bible says he will help us in our prize is when we pray he will pray for us. Jesus is son is interceding for us right now. Praying for us right now now we can support each other in friendship and fellowship and we don't have to do that in our own strength and tried to be kind and good and all of those sorts of things and our strength. God will grow that fruit in us. If we're planted God wants us to be planted and we can choose to focus on the goodness of God as we do on a harvest Sunday and hopefully every Sunday that we meet we can focus this on the goodness of God and being a child of that goodness a lady called Nancy. Merrill paraphrased the Psalms uh-huh and in her book called Psalms for praying in power phrase of this psalm. She uses this beautiful line speaking about people who are right just and who tried to live the right way and are planted in the right place by God she says and in all that they do and they give life in all that they do they give life when you like people to say that about you. Whatever he does in life he gives life whatever whatever she does she gives life see? The thing about tree is a tree is most known by nights fruit. How can you tell one tree from another by its fruit? If you go up to a tree and you can see that it's bearing Apples then gets bolt at some apple tree. Go Up to a tree on its cherries on it. I guess what it's a cherry tree. We know our trees by the fruits that they bear and so a tree planted on landfill might view bitter inedible freaked but a tree planted by sparkling stream. We'll give you beautiful life giving freaked. We are known by the fruit in our lives. And if we have been planted in the right place if we allowed ourselves to be planted in the right place by the Mar Master Gardener and James Johnston says this is what it will look like the Godly man or woman produces Thanksgiving and seasons of plenty faith in seasons of doubt patience in suffering piece in turmoil mercy when wronged gentleness when falsely accused strength in temptation nation humility leadership and prayer in all seasons. Is that what your life looks like. Are you planted in the right place. Do you give Thanksgiving in seasons and plenty the bare faith in seasons of doubt de show patience in suffering piece when all around you seems to be chaos. We've got plenty of time and scope to learn to live in the moment we to be people have peace in times of turmoil oil Massey when you're wrong. Gentleness mind falsely accused strength and temptation humility in leadership. I'm prayer in all seasons. If you do then you must be planted in the right place. You must've allowed the master gone to place you in the right place. As we live consciously connected to goat consciously rooted by extremes of his life giving water them. We can dedicate each thing that we do each day to go and to giving our life to other yes. We can produce harvest of good fruit each when we're planted in the right place. Then we can be the kind of people people other people trust again. We've heard lots in these last few days about whether we trust people but planted in the right place by. Oh my God we can be people who are trusted to look. After and to teach of people's children we can be people who are trusted to manage other people's finances we can be people who are trusted to care for their property. We can be people who are trusted to look after other people's confidence to manage their office to make wise leadership decisions all sorts of fruit. That can come from a life that's consciously connected to God reach it by streams of life giving water and dedicated to got into others each day. So let's use this office celebration to. Yes say thanks to God for the physical things that he gives us US each day but even more to commit to being fruitful to commit to implanted in the right place and allowing the life of I've got to flow in and through us in response. We're going to sing chorus number. Five seven seven. Wish wish speaks about God's life flowing through us into fruit into fruitful lives channels. Only this is. This is not aw about me trying to do in my own strength but simply being a channel for what God wants to live through channels only blessed master but but with all I wondrous power flowing through me thou counts. Use me every day and every hour. When he's power is flowing through US then he can use us to to produce the fruit that this world needs singing this chorus through a couple of times and if you need to respond this morning if you need to come even use a place of prayer and it's open if you want to come and pray on your own then bring something in your hand if you want to somebody to pray with you? They'll do not just come empty-handed and somebody will come and pray with you let cygnus course three twice place. Aw uh-huh US EH. Father God we simply ask you to help us to make the right choice this morning. First of all allow ourselves to be plummeted in the place that you wish to plant us. Find a stream of life giving water. May We do all that we can to take them the nutrition from from the life giving water to to take what we need from your word and I'm three prey on through living the Christian life together. Get a May repack fruit fee. You may people know us by off route. May people glorify you by off route assists in your name on them. We hope you have been carried challenge by this message. Why don't find us on facebook by searching for Basingstoke Salvation Army and join us against next Bible message? podcast go bless you.

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Who You Gonna Call?

Not A Single Fork

23:45 min | 7 months ago

Who You Gonna Call?

"The. and. Okay well, here we are season find really we already see some five isn't that crazy and I know it seems a little early maybe for some maybe not for others, but we're going to tackle the holidays again. Well, they're just right around there's always just right around that fucking corner they just sneak up on you and you know we dealt with the whole season two was our was our first holiday season. And we went through with things that you. Avoid stress yes as much as pasta. So this season is kind of a little different for us because, well, this recording season and this holiday season. Because, we didn't know what we would be expecting 'cause cove it because everything that everybody's dealing with Kinda we Kinda we still, of course, we have no fucking idea, but it was hard for us to like figure out what are we gonNA talk about? During the podcast because are people still going to have big holiday function you. No I I mean I mean I'm sure that they'll have close family. Yeah. But still like you're going to have ninety five year old grandma over with all the kids know because she's still going to be. You know assisted living or closed down still. So. What the fuck are going to help you guys with during the holiday season was are thought yeah, and we're like, and so it took us a minute. It took us a minute to figure it out. But then we have this wonderful idea candace had this wonderful idea well, because we had at during the Thanksgiving episode last year last year. And I think it was our first because we did it in two parts we did yes, we did. Or maybe it was even before but it doesn't. It doesn't exactly when it was but. We call the butterball hotline help hotline which I had. No idea was even a thing just called them, and so then this year we were talking about it and we were like, maybe there's other hotlines and Oh my God there are so many there are so many fucking hotlines I'm sure people don't call hotlines anymore because they're like, hey, Google like how do I or hate you know but sometimes you WanNa talk to somebody I think that with the pandemic and people being isolated so much they wanted to call and talk to a human being so we're GonNa this season the we're GonNa talk about that and different types of hotlines you can call and we're GONNA call them we are GONNA call. An experience so that because I think that there's a lot of times when people are hesitant to call them because why would you need to call a hotline? Say maybe their question sound stupid. You know. Yeah. So why the fuck would you call a hotline hotline? Well, actually have two examples where you might want to call. Maybe you would have wished that you had called the hotline. Okay. Give it to me. So this first one actually is from one of our. Our homeys? Yes Brenda Brenda and. In last season she off she actually she told a story about. Yes and then she came back around and in the episode. Joe Bro are Somali episode she in the comments brought forth another food store and you feel like this could of used a hall I think this food story definitely could've you give it to my hotline. So, this is a story that her husband tells on her. She said she he tells everyone married forever, oh. Yeah. Because they got married in their twenty and they're my age. So they've been married forty year easily. Okay. So she says when I was growing up. I never cooked at home as my mom was a stay at home mom and dinner on the table every day at five pm she was a good housewife. She was one of those. She was one of those. From. The fifties six. Shoes Super. Cute Yeah I'm sure she was because Brenda is. She said Oh, how I wish I had paid more attention back then I lost my mom the year I got married at the ripe old age of twenty two. I know. So things getting married at twenty two and then losing losing your mom needless to say I had to teach myself how to cook. One of our favorite fast food meals was rex's chicken. I've never eaten breakfast chicken of you know. I thought I could do that. How hard could it be right? I knew it was extremely important to make sure chicken is cooked. Yes. That's a good is very important. Yeah. You're right about that. Yeah. I had only used a deep fryer to fix French fries and I knew those cooked really fast. So I thought it would be best if I pre cooked the chicken to make sure it would be done. I can see her logic Yup Yup I get it. Okay. So after boiling the chicken breasts, fuck I, cut them into bite sized pieces, roll them in flower and put them in the Fryer. Again needless to say once then while Brown, they had pretty much dehydrated the chicken and it was chewing on a piece of leather. So she way others there's Claude still tell us people that that was the only meal I ever fix that he just couldn't eat. Oh well, that's not bad brenda. Your odds are in your favorite. If you've only did it once and I totally see your logic in that because I get that like you don't want raw chicken. No No. So you know what it's better. You went this extreme than the other because you could kill him. Exactly. I mean in that in that and then maybe she's like well, maybe I should. Now that they've been married for off. Claude's I know we're not married to well, that's true. So it's different. Only, but you could have had chickens. Yeah. That's much worse much worse. So. Hot Hotline for chicken. Well, actually there's a USDA hotline okay and poultry so she had to call that in. Fact. What do I do I want Ralph I want Rex's fried chicken at home I make that. The way you have another story. This is I have to tell his story on my daughter Maren. Because with again with a pandemic, she is learning how to do yourself how to cook. Yeah and her while she has a good backup to call you well, good hotline the call you she does have. Kinda naturally. But this one she waited until after the fact. Okay. Because she was going to make pizza dough or she's GonNa make pizza of herself and her boyfriend who happens to be Italian. I haven't heard the story by the way. This is brand new wouldn't tell me is brand new. So I'm waiting to see from last night. Oh Shit brand new. Yeah. Okay. So She made the dough and she said the yeast wasn't behaving the way that she was expecting it to and I think it's because if I recall correctly. It was yeast that Michaela, who was her boyfriend Michaela's mother had sent them from Italy So it was it like a starter I don't know how. It was just. So she made the dough and it didn't wasn't rising like the way she thought she thought it should. Okay. So it's an idea maybe I should do that. So. She, had the of course had a towel over yet to kind of hold the warmth in it and Michaela said, well, my mom puts hers in. And so so she put it in the oven and then they went there Mary way doing whatever watching the movie or whatever, and so she's like I need to turn the oven on. To get ready to make the Pizza Oh. Fuck. So she turns the Evan with the with a minute wait. Wait. So they're watching the movie unconscious and then mckelway says, do you smell something burning? Well. Yes, she had left the bread dough with the towel at like five hundred degrees. Tau caught on fire fuck wishy panicky. Yeah but luckily, McKinley was there. Because he's lake. Cook, chill he is. So chill he's like, okay, I got this. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. She's pretty high? Strung. Nice complement to one another. So anyway. I think she could have used the baking or yeast hotline. There is a yeast hotline there is a Flash Use g east just. For Yeast there's also King Arthur's baking helpline is that Flower King Arthur while our they do they do all kinds of things but they have mostly I mean I think the company started off as flower. Okay. Just flour. All kinds of well. Okay. So marins fuck up wasn't lying cooking. It was stupid like listen I've been I went I've got two of these stories. I'll give you one one reminded me of the Fried Chicken because curtain Paul out who are friends of mine who also been married for like a ridiculous amount of time or not your age. She. She cooks a lot at home and she has a lot of like southern cooking like comfort food cooking and I just heard this last time they were in town. I guess she did like when they first got married and she wanted to make him dinner and she wanted to make fried chicken and It was completely raw. The opposite and he's still fucking talks about it too. I mean, I hadn't heard it until just recently, but he's still jokes about it too because, and even said, he's like that's the one time. I just couldn't eat your food because it was trying to kill me because in hindsight probably. Okay. So then Your story just now about Mariner reminds me of a story that I did with. Susan. Where I went over we were hanging out. We were talking we were like we're like Oh. Let's make brownies like just out of a box and put it in the thing and not special brownies just regular brownies. But we were drinking and we're watching a movie and it was like a winter day and we put the he's in the oven and then we got zoned into whatever we were doing, and then like an hour later we went and checked and like the Brownie stubborn cooking and we were like that's weird like whatever like either one of us really bake. So maybe it takes fuck and five hours something brownies. Watch movie and like two hours later we go back and we're like what the fuck we didn't turn the heaven. Oh God at all. So. We just the opposite of what? Maron just yeah you did. So I just I. think that is just you get caught up in, you get distracted and you get caught up in you know. So they were probably caught up in whatever they were doing watching or whatever, and we were too and we just totally forgot about it and then we're like, oh Brownie sound good but no but no no. So I don't think. Not. Tonight hotline wouldn't have helped us with that one that's just Biz that's just drinking too much. Maybe you needed the alcoholics anonymous. Married probably that too. Okay. So so season five is all about holiday hotline holiday hotlines and we're GONNA call him. We are going to go many as possible. So a yeast one you said, and then the the King Arthur's baking which I thought was flour but I guess it's covers the gamut of thing. Yeah. Because they'll talk to people about this is this is what was remarkable to me because I did some research on all the hotlines before. We jumped in here today shocker I know I don't know what the fuck we're talking about here on I just showed up I know saw. Okay. So I found an eater article about. All the calls that King Arthur's baking hotline or help line. It's that it's gotten this year and they said that their calls were up six hundred percent Oh shit. Oh, because people were baking during the pandemic. Done that before exact you know and they're like, oh, I couldn't find peace no. No, you couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't find anywhere. No you can find flour I think most places but yes, you couldn't use was nowhere to be found open that bread-making. Yeah. So fat now move butterball so we can call butterball. Balls. Okay. So who else who else did you find? Well, I want to tell you something about butterball move on. So they they're like the king and these hotlines are probably been around for really long haul is like for the very first. Okay. Okay. They've been around and I looked at the date but I I think since the seventies maybe even I don't know about before that. But because had eight the way before because I. Think with when eight hundred numbers toll free numbers became popular I think that's when butterball started their butterball hotline. Okay and so they have kind of they kind of corner the market mum because they're open. Seven Shit. And I'd like. Yeah. Yeah. She says I know high at two in the morning I'm having a butterball emergency well, and you know I looked at all these crazy questions that they've gotten just insane questions there'd be no some of them were. They said up probably a lot of these were prank question, but there was one lake. Can I can I saw my Turkey in the toilet shut the fuck up well yeah I'm you know it's like you know you know you call right kid used to just calling random number is your refrigerator running You better drop the phone and go catch it. And then have olive oil and a can. Popeye better. Let her out. Never heard that. Because you're not sixty three years. Yes. So we're a little throwback. I guess this this. We're. We're prank appropriate calling. We're GONNA frank called the hotline will no not really we're GONNA legit calling a legit call them but you can also I'm not GonNa say this very loud because she'll hear me but you can ask Alexa to call butterball or two. It says asked butterball and then you can and then are they're hooked into her they're hooked into. Oh into the ECHO. Yeah. We're we may have to do some asking so high techs attack, but you know she's everywhere. So I can't say. I know you're like we're like what? Like four rooms away from her and Get she'll just randomly start talking sometimes. So are we going to so when we call these hotlines, are we going to ask all of them the same question like are we going to switch up or questions or how do you want to do? Well, I, think that will. Really. Situation there's our Turkey, the Turkey hotlines we're not GONNA ask the same questions as the sides in the baking, right? Right right. But I mean I, think there's there's a the butterball there's honeysuckle and actually the honeysuckle helpline is prerecorded. So they don't they have a live chat online they don't have like a call and talk to a price. And then there's also the reynolds aluminum hotline Reynolds is like foil. Yeah. Okay. Because they want to ramble their ten ten or Turkey with Turkey. Turkey Turkey Turkey. fucking Turkey intent with foil and do end I. Mean they come up with all kinds of interesting things to do with foil that I would never. S. You know how you used to when you're a kid that you'd go to a fancy restaurant Swan and you'd have a swan at a foil with your takeaway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, those are the those are the Turkey hotlines. And then we get into sides and baking. Okay. Security talks about the King Arthur King Arthur then the yeast, there's the which also like it I mean that's got to be not just baking because you use used to brew. Beer. Is it different tickets at different kind of yeast could new still ask him a question about all I i. don't know maybe we should. Maybe we ought to. Oh. We're brewing beer. We're curious about while we have a lot of we have a lot of breweries. Yeah. Monte worries around here. Okay. Anyway just I was just thinking ahead. Okay and then there is do we want to stick with to continue on the baking ones? Okay. So there's there's actually a website that's called home baking dot org. Okay and it's got everything on it. So you'd like you go there and you're like how do I make a whatever whatever? Yeah. And then there's the CRISCO Pie light but we forgot the ocean spray. Well, that's a sign though. Not Bake Okay I. See I see. Got Up at stop us. Lard. Lar-. Vegetable shortening. It's an alternative to large I think originally, it was considered to be a healthier. Alternative to Lard because Lard. Is An animal Prada to know this is a vegetable product and CRISCO is vegetable shortening. Okay. But it behaves the same way as Lard. But it has no flavor. Lard has flavor. Wouldn't now that we're having this discussion wouldn't be healthier for you because it's an actual natural product is crisco and natural like naturally comes off like vegetables that doesn't make sense I, don't know where it comes from. It's like you know like you have vegetable oil you where's vegetable oil? Vegetable oil comes out. I. Don't think. We're going have some peanuts now I have to research. No No. No. We'll ask him when we Chris Go. Yeah. Okay. And they're on their available Monday through Friday year round with extended hours around the holidays. Wow. Yeah. 'cause because it's Well. I use CRISCO when I make my pie crust yeah. Because it makes it really really flaky and delicious. Yeah. Yeah. And you know some people swear by butter in a pie crust. Okay. But I also think that a lot of people use a combo who have better and CRISCO. So is there butter hotline there is a land lakes I bet it's not really a hotline. What is it? It's kind of like an online access and then I think I think there's like a consumer on. Hot like chat like sort of a chat thing. Yeah. But we can investigate that a little bit further and then liberties. What's Lis Liberties? Libya's Libya's on the label label label. I don't know what's happening. They do Pumpkin. They have vegetables, but they do Pumpkin puree. Okay. And They don't have a hotline, but they do live chat. So. Your pumpkin. PUREE help chat well. Pumpkin Pie and Pumpkin whatever I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. And other because they have other vegetables to as pumpkins eventual vegetable, you're correct. Yes Yes. Okay. So those are all the baking ones and we'll. We'll tell you everything what I know but we'll tell you everything that there is to know about those pursuing. Yes and then yes, ocean spray cranberry cranberries and they make other. So. I. Think they make other like juices and things like that. But I think everything has cranberries in it. Okay. That's jam. cranberry cream. That's their base. Yeah. Like canned cranberry sauce or like the fresh cranberries blackberries fresh cranberries over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Ocean spray will tell you everything. There is to know about cranberries and what how you? Use. Maybe. Let me take that back. Well I mean it is, but it's like how the best way to use their canned cranberry sauce whom yeah, we're GONNA learn a lot. We are GONNA learn so much and I wonder if they have like weird questions to we could ask them for their weird. Had Weird Questions Frost Turkey in the toilet? Yeah. I know and sorry I cut you off. What were you gonNa say I was Gonna say that on the website You can email us if you have. Oh yes. Do that if you have dangerous cooking dilemmas or crazy cooking dilemmas or even just simple question for see you have a question about any of these things I want us to ask last live we'll ask it live and or we will respond to your question what your your question will be on the podcast. Like an interactive portion of the program. So Fun Yeah Yeah. So that is that's that's what we're doing and season five. Yeah I, think it's GonNa be fun and I liked it. It's going to be like unpredictable I mean God I mean last year we got married at the butterball and she was fantastic and wonderful sweet well and I was also going to say because I told you this the other day when I was on the butterball website. I saw a picture of Mary. You saw picture of her real. We were wondering if they were all like Mary's they were all there all your have. You just hold the butterball and you just got married like they're all just called. No they all have different Mary maybe they can get her again real people. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll ask for America we can maybe they have more. Than, one, do we know which Mary well I don't know I'll have to do some. Research and here's the other thing that I was going to say about back to the King Arthur, flower one, they spend a lot of time with these people on the phone. And there was one woman who told the King Arthur hotline and she was trying to make bread. To Send to her parents some pointer. And the woman ended up crying on the phone because she's so stressed out over all the you know being isolated and not being able to get the bread, do what she wanted it to do, and then apparently she said on the phone, this is stupid I'm crying over bread she needs the. Therapy. which there are a lot of those two. Awad. And people need that around the holidays we needed all the time. Well, ramp up it ramps up at the holidays shirt as dress. Let's put the fun in dysfunction. Yeah Yeah. Yeah for real. Yeah. So other than to say, we're going to call the hotlines and we would love to have your questions Yes for sure. I think will cut this off and yeah. Make it short and sweet sounds like a plan. So. Are we going to say keep it fresh? mean stay fresh stay fresh stay fresh hotline bag. Covid nineteen better known as Corona virus has spread throughout the world symptoms of this respiratory disease may include fever, cough and shortness of breath. These symptoms may show up to to fourteen days after exposure if you are experiencing these symptoms and have come in contact with or are in an area with an ongoing outbreak, please call hotline and or consult a physician clean and disinfect high touch services for more. Please visit CDC dot Gov Slash covid nineteen. Thank you.

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Ask Lisa: Best Friends

Pants On Fire

12:53 min | 1 year ago

Ask Lisa: Best Friends

"Hello and welcome to a bonus. Ask Lisa episode of Pants on fire. I'm your host Deborah Goldstein. Most weeks on the a show we bring on one expert and one liar and it's the job of a human child contest into help us figure out who is who and we do that with the help of r sound effects were about. Lisa's saddens named Sam for live and studio audience. Not just a robot. DEBORAH ROBOT EVER DOT COM. Oh I agree. You are the best robot. WHATEVER DOT COM anyway are human child? Listeners are so fascinated by you lisa that they sent all sorts of questions that they want you to answer on air and and that's what we'll be doing this week. That's right for the low low price of forty nine ninety nine. I'll take your questions and send back an answer and six to eight weeks along along with pants on fire. Commemorative use tissue doll five and you can be eligible. No we're we're not. We're not charging our listeners. For writing and questions where we're going to do it for free like we always have I get it. You're playing hardball. I like it. It's a fire sale here at pants and for for a limited time. Only you can get your question answered for the insanely low price of seventy nine ninety nine. That's more than before there's more if you call right now so you'll receive a free pants on fire commemorative used Q.. Tip O.. With real wax restroom the ears of one of our real truth telling experts but that's not all adjust three easy payments of ninety nine. Ninety nine price keeps going up at five questions answered to tissues the q tip and the rest of Deborah's lawns. No no no. I was eating that. That's five questions. You tissues q tip over half of a Sandwich Yours for free if you call right now. Okay how is any of that free. You said three payments of ninety nine ninety nine. That's three hundred dollars. I said easy payments still not free though right well if you steal your parents credit Kurds totally free. We're not doing any of that. Give me back my sandwich. Fine one of the best things about podcasting is that it's free you to listen to no gimmicks no gross prizes. No stealing your parents credit card just a lot of knowledge and entertainment for the public consume for free. You are so naive if we don't sell are used tissues to listeners. Someone else's going to rummage through our trash bin when and we're not looking and sell them right out from under us. I really don't think that's the case. If it were all up to you answer all the questions for free yes exactly exactly and it is up to me. So that's exactly what we're going to do right now our questions this week. Come to US via listener voicemail. Now I'm just GonNa remind and everyone for future reference to please state your name and where you're from when you leave messages since the first caller didn't say either of those things I'm just GonNa Guess us that this child is adorable and smart an amazing and maybe from Great Britain and here is the question now. Alfred Lisa that best friend or read your best friend. Oh well well. I think we all know the answer to this on my. Oh Oh wait. I'm not your best friend end. Who the heck is a robot for best friend? Well you do not anymore. Look you're my best work friend. But I have a life outside of if this podcast and then that life my best friend is a smart blender a smart blender. Yeah Brenda Really Brenda the blenders. You so smart i. I can't believe this after all we've been through together. Look Debra your good good friend. Can't that be enough for you. Oh it's enough it's more than enough in fact I'm going to go be best friends with a Panini press later. Wow She actually left. I can't I believe it. I never thought I'd be hosting this podcast by myself. Okay okay listener questions. How do I do this right Our next question is new. no-name again okay This next caller is kid. I'm just going to call you Like Felix from the moon all right and and let's just roll the tape. What is a million times? A Billion Deborah's gone for one minute. The hardest question ever great thanks Felix a billion times a million. What am I some kind of computer I am but I'm cool? Sound effects. ROBOT COMPUTER NOT AWESOME SORTA NERD calculated computer. Oh a calculator. Of course I've got a calculator. let me see here. Usually I just use these things to write words upside down but I guess you could use it for for math okay. A billion times million one and fifteen e isn't a number plus dare nope. That's not a word. Okay Felix Alex. I'm afraid. There is no transfer trillion times of billion. It's just one of those things the world will never know maybe on your home planet of the Moon. They'll figure it out someday. Good luck What's nine plus ten? What is with your kids in the math questions today? Okay this time. I'm prepared nine. Both Stan is battery dead Okay the calculator later battery is dead. This is really the kind of thing Deborah would be better at Okay Felix his brother. It looks like nine plus ten is just another one of those impossible possible paradoxical questions that we have no way of truly figuring out. Let's move onto our next listener voicemail. Hey resear- kids lenore. What is it like being on the show pens on fire fun? You describe it to me in like tell me about it. 'cause serving listening in some fire in summer school. It's cool. You know what Lenore it's the greatest job I've ever had and and it's all thanks to Deborah Goldstein and liquid. I did I mater. Thinks he wasn't my best friend and now I have to do the show alone. I ever do this podcast by myself. You might not believe this now but I might. I add pants on fire. I was a nervous wreck. I was so worried that I would mess up my a big break. I was ready to turn my back on the show and I would have done it too. If it weren't for Deborah. I remember it like it was yesterday. Our producer Noah was marching around the set and one of his terrible moods complaining. If I recall correctly about a bialy it is there a reason. I can't get a bialy in nist serious. Is there some some war against the Bagel shop knowing how to make good Bialy Lisa. Good thing I found you couple of last minute. Changes to the script this paragraph. WE'RE GONNA move up to the INTRO. Trump section right here is getting cut. Cut that parts cut. You don't need to make some kind of a joke right here instead. Just Atlit your feet. Right uh what am I talking about. Of course you'd get on your feet right okay. We got some notes from stands practices if you sound effects Dr Not Allowed to use. They get a pencil. No farting burping no goose stuff. No chewing noises turns out people hate chewing noises for some reason. Nothing too loud and nothing important judgment you got got good judgment is a judgment. Sound files earned forty eight kilohertz right Hilmi your sound files curry forty-eight killers I get sick and we're changing the name of the show Sage Charlatan wasn't exactly hitting that six to eight demographic in the funny bone if no what I'm saying so it's hands on fire. Now remember that hands on fire. Hire pants on fire. Okay Kid I gotta go remember. Just make those changes don't screw up no farting kyw Bosh chewing noises and don't talk at a turn. Okay people. I got stuck in traffic a human child with no questions. And whom exactly do I have to kiss up to around here to get halfway decent. Wow sounds like a lot of pressure who are you. I'm only Deborah Sun. Are you that robot they brought in to due fart noises. Well my mom does the game show. I'm not supposed to do fart noises anymore. Hey since my mom is your buzz does that mean I can fire you. What what why would you fire me? No for fun. I wanted to find out ruskin cry. I guess that doesn't sound like very much fun to me. What would happen if the the podcast started? And you forgot all your lines like if you just completely choked up there while everyone was watching. That'd be funny. I gotta go to the bathroom. I'd love robots in the bathroom. Yeah you can do this Lisa you can do this. Oh you're you're kidding. You can't do this. You're not made for show business. You don't have what it takes. You GotTa get out of here. I gotta get out of here. I've got to find someone to take my place. Maybe this hand dryer. That doesn't sound like applause. I'm a failure Lisa Oh hey. Hey Deborah just are you okay. Sure I am Deborah I just you know I'm not okay. I can't do this all right. I wasn't cut out to be alive in studio audience. My stupid uncle was right. I should've I'm just up and become a vending machine and least then I'd be doing something productive. Hey Hey hey. Don't say that. We already have a vending machine. And besides I can't do this podcast without you. You can't of course not those sound effects you're making address. hersal work cracking everybody up. You're going to be great. What if I forget all of my lines up there and Levi fires me to leave? I can't fire you. He's just playing around with you. You're going to be great out there. Look at me you were made to to do. This was hey the here's the deal. If you get nervous they're just make fun of Me Make Fun of you. Yeah tease me. Basma me I can take it. Everybody loves a class clown. And you won't mind luck. Lisa everybody in this world was made to different things me. I was made to help teach teach kids how to figure out the difference between truth and lies. You were made to put a smile on people's faces. Thanks Deborah. I guess I can do this and I promise. I'll only make fun of you if I get nervous. I won't make it into a habit look so much for that promise. Ms Debra came back. Yeah well I figure you still needed me ten plus nine. Oh Deborah. I'm so sorry better stupid. Fight of course. You're my best friend. Got Brenda Brenda the smart blender. Oh everybody's second to you Deborah. I was just teasing. I guess it did become a habit after all. Air You How sweet well Lisa? I guess this is a good time to say you're fired Levi. CUT It out. You're not fired. Lisa sorry sorry just working on my experiment. How how many more experiments do you need to run? Robots can cry. Lisa cries almost every day. He's crying right now. Not just have some dust in my frontal ocular compartment worth it. It's a production of genesee media online. You can visit them at best robot ever DOT com. While you're there. You can learn how to become apprentice was asked questions for me to answer. Ask Lisa make sure you leave your name okay. 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The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 120  And The Beat Goes On!

The Conspiracy Farm

2:11:33 hr | 1 year ago

The Conspiracy Farm Ep. 120 And The Beat Goes On!

"Live your life boy. Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the conspiracy FAW conspiracies. We just had the water in now. Your hopes of the most state of the art in four cast on the inter-web I present to you. Fat Said Ladies and Gentlemen. I rear naked. Choke Cocker Spaniel. Bridal neighborhood of conspiracy farm go check it out. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to Conspiracy Farm and Geoffrey. Wilson is joining me in our in house scientist. George Pardo's retired marinas also with us. And we're going to have a an interesting conversation about corona virus. The science behind that a lot of a lot of details. A lot of people don't know trying to get rid of some of the some of the confusion surrounding it. There's a lot of people asking a lot of questions including Jeffrey and myself. And so George it's it's great to have you here. You know what I'd like to say as you know before in our last episode we were talking when we had you on we were talking about the grown of IRS This particular strain code nineteen being a lab created virus. I'm still leaning that way. Just because of how? This is all going down in the monetary the financial sector the way it's responding to this particular virus like this was all plan as camouflage for it but why don't you fill us in a little bit on on whether it was lab created whether it could have come from a lukewarm bowl of bat soup or or you know a a Hog. You know to be honest. Let's start with the first of I want to talk a little bit about a Bola. Okay and Bambi. Be Very because if we talked too long or too complex you will. You will take me into a place where I won't understand some of these term. So you got to be pleased. Simplify it for our listeners. And for myself laser laser focused all. Right let's start out with something simple there. The book of Leviticus. Okay I just want to cover this. And so people have access to the Bible the Bible about five thousand years ago said. Hey don't eat. He's fucking animals okay because they carry certain diseases while the Bulla outbreak started because somebody had an Africa decided to eat a bat. Now the problem with the full of viruses that it has a It has a property called zoonosis which means that it can be transferred from animals to humans so Bolla is in fruit bats in Africa. And what happened? Was these guys ate the fruit bats and then started spreading Ebola virus. That is what is the what has happened here with cove. Nineteen is that we originated does because we some idiots in China thought it was a fucking novel idea to cook bats in eat them which now we've Seen No. It's not a good idea and it's also not a good idea to keep animals in marketplaces. Were there on top of each other. We have chickens on top of ferrets. In Taba Salamanders into on top of an open air market in Wuhan You can see that. They're keeping animals in cages on top of each other. The problem is that was zoonosis. You're able to transfer viruses from animals to humans quickly. Now that's that's the the breakdown of this is what has happened is we actually had created a Petrie dish which is all the animals together put together in a big ass open area animals. That shouldn't be by humans in the first place like the Chinese. Eat Ferrets. The Pangolins You know the the Africans eat monkeys. The animals are just or not supposed to be as a result they pass on viruses which now have become a a huge across the planet. And this is why we're here today. So this is a result of that or it's manmade made it has signatures of being manmade where we add with signatures of transferring from it has signatures from transferring from animals to humans. That is what the signature has. Now I'm GONNA technical term that I'm going to then I'm going to say is in two thousand and four. There's a research group that was headed by guy named Shannon Glue. Who came up with this? And he's actually and you can look them up on the NIH He published a paper where he was saying this that Covy nineteen has the ability. Or there's a covy nineteen that is a or the corona virus that is in feline cats. That is something that has we we have. We have seen that before sixteen years ago so this has showed up in in cats in felines. Whatever you WANNA call them The difference in the human version of it is a property called 'em proteins and that is the the protein base version of Krona is the feline. One is the one that they found. Recently they say like rain will eat. Your brain is that real or is that something bacteria from the minute. It's bacterial this. One is the feline version of it. They've had drug and I can tell you name you the drug here in a second but they had a drug that they've used on felines that has helped It's an Antifungal drug now. What as of today. They're trying to different The the the Japanese have a drug in. I've read down a lot of my notes. So if hold on a second and because a lot of these are now we're we're not in the speculative stage but we're in the In a stage where we are going to start trying repurpose drugs. So there's a drug that came out. Recently called avid again and again is a has been proven effective in clinical trials. It's a flu drug invented by the Japanese or develop by the Japanese. They're going to repurpose that. Drug for clinical trials recovered nineteen. Here's what's happened and this is what the this is. Why some of US? Two months ago were wrong and part of it. We were right but part of it was wrong cove. Nineteen is not a very robust virus. That's why it is spread all over the world so far they contagion funnel is wider. Must when we look at viruses. We look at antigens and we look at people that have irregular immunity to the disease and it does most people that get it are going to live through it unless your immune system is compromised if you have a if your immune system is compromised. You're probably going to die. I and I'm sorry. I WANNA be truthful about this. I'm not I don't want to. I want to be an honest broker in this. But if you have a compromised immune system and you develop it if you don't get help right away if the hospital where you're at doesn't have the ability to help you. You're probably GonNa die and I'm sorry and that is not much different. I mean not to compare them directly but from the fluids usually the are the older people who already have already well that already had chronic condition. Chronic FLU TURNS BUT FLU. Turns your system into having pneumonia. You can fight. You know if you want you have pneumonia Usually it's developed by flu and even healthy people can get even healthy. People can get pneumonia if it spreads I mean you gotta remember. Jacklin was one of the healthiest individuals on a planet. He got He died from pneumonia. Because it got unchecked. He you know so. The the issue is that flu will turn. You will turn into pneumonia. If you're an unchecked and the part of the problem has been you know there's so much fallacy out there like breathing hot air or in Asada that's going to work at it. It won't kill the virus if you breathe in one hundred eighty there was some idiot on I don't know remember it. Forget the site but said you brought in one hundred eighty degree air one hundred sixty degree you read that in your lungs are going to be nuked and dead. You're just going to be data. I mean that that's so there are precautions to take and if you do get it here. Here's the the the the good news you have about a ninety seven percent chance of surviving it? It's it's not going to kill you. It's you might be uncomfortable. Kevin Durant citizen positive on. Hank's tested positive. And he's out of the hospital already. So what I heard. Recently that it Attacks respiratory like if you have Copd or certain. It's really going to hurt you as well even if you're young if you have respiratory issue. Here's the three things that if you're doing these three things you're you're you're on your risk if you're vaping stop it if you're smoking stop it. If you're by any way smoking marijuana or anything that your smoke. You've already irritated the Cillian your lungs. You're just creating peach a-walking petri dish for this That that's and that is one of the problems that that is not being said that if you have an opiate addiction you're vulnerable if you're if you're smoking dope you're vulnerable or your. Your smoke said that because I was GONNA ask for a friend of mine I was going to acquire about About that I WANNA make sure my friends save. I really do. I care about my friends. I say I'm not saying. Thc uses is Ronald but if you're smoking it You know go to a go to edibles. Go to gummy drops go to chocolate. I mean you I will. I will pass that on seriously. I mean seriously convert convert. Whatever you're smoking. Thc is not bad for you. It's smoking and here's the other thing if you're obese if you're overweight you run a risk of it And so there are like fifteen different factors forty-five percent. I and I had to look this up and I gotTA GIVE. I gotTa give credit to your To Miss Tim James. Okay I look this up and I thought I thought I read this wrong. I thought I was just being dumped fucking crayon eater forty five percent of forty plus forty plus year old or whatever you want to say people over the age of forty or obese in this country. I and I GIVE CREDIT TO TEMPER FOR POST. I thought man I that. That's not that's not real. That's not true. Tim James Our boy head of the Chemical Free Body. Yeah yeah he he posted out one day and I honestly thought that no he. He's just making this up too so you know to sell his products which are a fine product. I looked at up and I was like. I was absolutely astounded by that that that was true. And not to digress too much but I always heard like I'm I've always been a little guy. I'm like what six one and I'm just kind of cracking over two. Oh five to six to six but I I don't know about that. Bmi stuff. But I'm supposed to be like one. Eighty five my considered obese or overweight. I mean do. You don't have to be like morbidly obese to be obese. How's that work? You know what it is a sliding scale it goes on. Bmi GOES ON BODY FAT. It goes on numerous things. There's not a you know There's not a moving you know. I've seen you know if you go to IBM. I I've seen powerlifters bodybuilders with you. Know ten percent body fat that are considered obese. Because you know of course. I heard they'd be. M is not reliable so I don't know. Not to digress. I mean there's there's numerous ones I think the best one is. How much body fat you carry I His name is Ryan something of the guy. That's the Eddie Eddie. Ryan the powerlifter from England. The guy is just massive You know he doesn't carry a lot of body fat but you know he would be. Considered obese is so there's different measures basically. I would imagine. You're percentage body. Fat Is is what considers you obese. I think one of the one of the issues that again were having is that we are just not. We don't have honest brokers anymore. An this is what scares me And that's why I gotta give you guys credit especially PAT and in Geoffrey for the conspiracy farm. You guys are willing to have conversations about some unpopular issues. And that's and that is what I think. America was so unpopular all. That's the beautiful thing about being your own boss to fire. Pat was packing a fire. Me I guess you know it can happen you know. Is this PAT show. He could always fire. But you know some are show are you. Are you right hear an I'm here. It's our time you Mr Hun. Let me ask you. We've established long island. Because I WANNA MAKE. I wonder how this is remarkable. You said one of the markers we found is that this virus is transferred from from humans from animals to humans. Isn't how isn't that kind of standard operating procedure in your normal flu strain? Avian Flu CETERA. But no I for your flu strain no for the SARS family. Yes so B. B says it because era. Their influences strains than animals don't get their influence a stranger or viruses that are in animals that get transferred to humans. So be you know. Be a little bit specific on that They are those are two different. They're two types of and also one of the things that That you know there's a rumor going around that it's an HIV you know this was HIV injust in that in that was injected into the cells. And that's not possible. That's just a a myth. So we get out of the conjecture he you know. Is it in any way true? That a man in the UK has already been cured from either Okay now how do we go about that? Do we go into him and find out what. Antibodies or whatever he had to make okay. Yeah that that's That is one of the reasons behind. It is that you know if you are if you are a some people can possess certain antigen certain that Then yeah then. It is possible for people to have You know to pass on the sandwiches of what basically. That's the hell of cell. We've talked about this before where You know in in times of past that you know you can pass on You know they used her cells to develop a CA cancer treatment and so that is possible. I mean it it it exists. You know well in another thing I got a lot of questions about in Pat. Bring this up because you know it made sense to me at the time but then afterwards I was thinking wait a minute. Neanderthal did migrate deeper into Asia than we realize this notion of people who are dying won't possess Neanderthal Gene. And we see a lot of these deaths in Italy and certain European countries that you would think would possess neanderthal gene. Do you still stand by that. Statement that people within the Andrew Harding won't die percentage satire. And here's one of the things that I again. It goes back to the studies that have been done in. There's you know market online. The R one B. One haplotypes has prevented a lot of this. I mean and and what what is really happening here. This is something that we as. We've studied this little bit more. The the coveted nineteen viruses not a strong virus so it means that a a lot more people will get it. They just won't die from it. Where SARS was a more lethal virus. It just affected it killed more people but it affected less people. So where's where's this ten times more deadly coming from then because here's here's a I. It's not that it's more deadly. Is that the range of people that are willing of infect is more greater it affects people on the twenty seven to thirty two K B. Gino type. That's that that that funnel imagine of. Let me break his Barney Star magic a funnel. Okay and so you have a wide funnel the wider the funnel that you put put people in the more it if it affects the SARS had a closer a you know a narrower funnel imagine the difference between a a bowl of soup you know an a cup of soup. The soup is deadlier but there's only so much there the the bowl of soup geider and so when when we first you know when the people that we dealt with and and I have you know. We're testing toxins. One of the things we do. Is We run them through people on you know. We have a group of that. We were together. It's not just myself and one of the you know. The the doctors that is on our board is the head in north one. He's in North Carolina. I want to say the city because I don't want to you know I it's part confidentiality but basically he's head of the response team and he said you know we ran his arm said. Hey Is this a now? It's really not that dangerous. Most people will survive from it. But the if you spread it around two thousand people. You're likely thirty percent of them are going to get it. Were SARS maybe only twelve percent. We're going to get it. That's the that's the dangerous here. That is the danger of this virus. And this is where we need to be vigilant. Social distancing is important Patrick. Well social distancing is Something that George does quite often stays in his office. Twenty three hours a day only leaves to what would you? Why do you leave that office? George I'd go to eat and go to sleep. That's about it code word for Berry bodies. So let's let's let's talk about some of the pandemonium. Some of the I mean we have seen the media. Blow this thing way out of proportion. I mean by this time in pandemic standards of spread N One h one had killed already a thousand people. I think there's one has what seventy five eighty people that have died so far so You know people are blaming trump. I mean you've got the MSNBC AT AN MSNBC host a talking head Glenn Kirschner suggested on twitter. And I. I said I retweeted him with the comment. That said this guy actually is allowed to report the fucking news. But this guy posted on twitter saying that some way that Donald Trump needs to be brought up on charges that he's culpable and responsible for potentially Manslaughter charges and all this other. Shit these these lunatics mainstream media are off the charts out of control so you know This has been blown too far out of proportion the closures the the lockdowns the I mean. Do you think this is really necessary? George to just locked down everything you want the real the the truth is yes right now. Yes because we're going to have a we need to do a downward pressure on experience from a guy who believes throwing unfit babies off of clips and and you know what I do and I don't mind I don't even. I don't even mind doing a death race. Two thousand you know. We're just you know. We'll corona virus is George it. Here's here's one of the elderly eight. That's right it's not just the elderly where we're starting to take out some. You know some young healthy people like the the you know in Spain. One of the soccer coaches which twenty-one just died from it prime minister's wife Scott it the prime minister we. We've got some young people here. Here's the thing that people are for the most part walnuts. Okay you did show a little bit ago and you're Jeffrey. Did this and I thought it was a great show about how the young receding tide pots. Okay so you had I mean. Do you remember that? Show that you guys did I do okay. You have young people out there eating tide pods and you think that we are going to be able to control them without a state mandate come on you saw the new challenge right the morons that are looking toilet seats and like literally Janet. I mean honestly. I'm almost that kind of passive you genesis. You can't say you're not gonNA save everybody man. You know what I mean. It's a little bit if people out there doing that. Something else is going to get him anyway. You can't save everybody. What Jeffrey says he kind of agrees with the Georgia Guide stones? No I mean you know if we started. I mean. Listen if we started I if we started You know if we started this down the road here. Here's what would happen. Mean from Eddie Miozzi study or if we had all we just did nothing exposed everybody to it. The pain would be over quickly. You would have a rising body count. Would that be except you know? Would that be acceptable? I I don't know I mean you know you think about that for a second and you think about that in real terms. Would you be okay if tomorrow? We said Hey. Go back to you know to social interaction. You know go do what you do. Go go to restaurants. Go to bars. Go to places of worship Go to stadiums and all that and then we started having people dying that again. So we're going to go down this path. Obviously I was doing a little later. But aren't we going to see a certain level of body count anyway? I don't think it's going to be the virus that really kills people. This seed of fear that's been planted in this cascading effect of his economic hardship from bartenders. Like ME TO NASCAR NBA. The the money's going to be in billions if not trillions. If they pushed us back this could be until July and August. How long can people go without a work? You know. We're looking at like PAT said? Look at what's happening in grocery stores now when people's bellies are full. What happens when the fit really hits the Shan and we're three months into this and people don't have checks and you know what I mean. So why is it? Why is the National Guard already in New York and in Florida and these different places throughout the country? I think they're almost have to anticipate some measure of civil unrest. Now there's GonNa be some civil unrest but it you know today if you saw the if you saw the thing today about If you saw you know the press conference today with trump and basically is that he you know one of the things that he said was that you know. They're going to make money available. I I bank at Chase already. Got A A notice from them saying that if you know we were to need money you know bridge loans and things like that That they would you know that they would basically cover some of our I don't know whatever you WANNA call it the cover. Yeah I mean that's what they said they're gonNA start. You know dishing out checks to Americans and now in this in tandem with literally the billion the one point five trillion that was sent out and then the five hundred billion that was just thrown out there for whatever reason this creation of money is this going to create a hyper inflation where. I don't care how much money you give me. It's not going to buy shit. It's Weimar Republic where I got a barrel full of money to buy some loaf of bread. What's going to happen to the value of the dollar from this well that I don't know because the market went up today. I mean if you take a look at it you know. The market went up today. What a thought you know. That's you know they're they're they're in get back mode. But they've lost almost thirty percent of its value here in the last month and a half and this last quarter almost thirty percent of the whole value stock market right. I mean you're you're right about that. I don't know what's GonNa happen down the road in that part. I mean you know that that you might have you might have a creation of hybrid inflation or you might not. I mean it it just it doesn't. I'm no economist. Believe me I always heard when you just print money. That's what happens Zimbabwe. I mean you name it well. This is two trillion dollars already. And they're talking about another one to two trillion here coming pretty soon. The American dollar is going to going to drop in value. Our trading partners are not going to want to sell us things. That's just the way it is you. You've got every state closing every restaurant every bar. Movie Theaters Gyms Grocery stores. Eventually you're probably going to get shot down. Because now people people are going to bum rush these places and steal stuff off the shelves. They're going to have to close their doors. I'm telling you right now. If things continue the airlines are already asking for sixty billion dollars in payout or in bailouts. They're going belly up soon This is this the ripple effects of this are going to be felt for years to come already even if we were to recover. Tomorrow it would. There's no doubt there's no doubt about it but he one of the things you can always look. Look one of the thinks says. Think about how much my I mean how. Much money that they're making just from selling more. I mean panic mode I mean who's shorting the market right now. Those are the cats just making Joe. Right and the other thing is Tuesday. You know every you know Glock Cement and Watson there. They just added billions of dollars to their bottom line. So you know. Let's be honest here. One of the things that I don't think it's going to happen. And you know this is from looking at dynamics is unless you start having unless you start having real it. Let's look at it another way. If you start having people dying then you're gonNA HAVE TO REPLACE THEM. Okay that makes up for it If you have people buying all sorts of stuff toilet papers sundries and food while you can make more food you know. Food is an infinite product. It's not there's not a what if they can't be what if it can't be transported. What if it can't be shipped? That's what we're seeing. Some of these hiccups happening in. You know that's another market. That's being sad. It's not that they can't be shifted. Just they can't get there fast enough. There's a big difference if you were to buy you know instead of buying like I if you're a walnut you're going into the store by fifteen rolls of toilet paper and you only need you know. Listen I mean you don't eat that much toilet paper. I seriously. You don't need that many paper towels. I mean you know what happened there because literally over twenty four hours. Totally paper became like the thing. People panicked made people's Stupidity. I mean I. I've tell me is diarrhea part of the flu diarrhea. Part of this and now it's not. It's not even about being quarantined and needing toilet paper. Basically yeah and I think part of the and and I think part of the problem running into you is a go this from the science part of it. We we're trying to soft pedal the outcome that is That is one of the issues that I've seen is that we need to be. We need to tell the truth of it is that viruses are active same. I it's a follow genetic trait. Is they the same sort of viruses? Have the same kind of properties okay. And in the covert not properties. It's that We've had an antigen property in in this verse. That means it is more a little bit depending on where it is that this is what one hundred sixty one countries have it. And you know and there's no one on this planet that is smart enough to say to be able to make this in a lab that you know to use as a biological weapon if it if it was a biological weapon like anthrax like any of the whatever you. Saron gas or any of the people that have died faster and they wouldn't have healed. If that was the point to do it was to kill people. Because once the once the person's dead the viruses dead right the one. The host is dead. The virus can't necessarily so maybe they wanted people to just to be sick. And have this law. So you're saying equivocally now because I differed last time that it wasn't it. Yeah I I still believe I believe this is a certain level of asymmetrical warfare and when that kind of stuff happened. Let word. We're so busy reacting. We're not even realizing the larger architecture going on the problem reaction solution that we fall for every time the same people who start this shit of the same people come in and solve it in my humble opinion right. And here's the thing that I thought. Because at first the pattern of it was it looked like a biological weapon. It looked like neutron neutron bomb just containing area of fun. You had a spread. You had basically concentric rings spreading out. Then this is the this is what is scary about it is that it. It went all over the globe. That fast yeah nothing that we have seen before even the nineteen eighteen flu epidemic or the influenza epidemic. Didn't travel like this even to into the same even if you take a look at the the nineteen eighteen where granted. We didn't have air travel. We didn't have You know we didn't have shipped trout. How long did it take to get to those numbers? What does the sixteen million? How long was that that timespan eighteen months? Who is about eighteen months? Wow and so. Here's the thing we can mitigate the. There's two things that we could have done. We just expose everybody to the people that die die and we clean up we bury them. Bury the dead and then we move on which is the spark way of doing it or we medicate the exposure. We save more people. We heard a little bit in the long run. We make up for it. You know down the road which is the you know which is the path we're doing. I mean we can expose every you know. We could expose all of America to West Virginia just had its first case. Now help me out with that. Why is that? Because of the terrain so remote. Why is was West Virginia that literally the last one to get it here in the United States mountainous terrain? You know the the fabulous resum not a lot of tourism You know homogeneous. Most of the people are kind of You got a pretty mild country down. There are over Appalachian America in a lot of it is that you know. They don't have big urban centers. Charleston is the largest Charleston largest city. And I think it's only got two hundred. Thousand is the population. I mean we can look at I mean. Help me out with the numbers of the North Dakota only has a few a few cases right. I mean yeah. Population centers will drive the numbers. Larger Charleston's only got a population of fifty thousand. So I mean just the you know so I was seeing numbers in. China are dropping and they've technically been in this about three or four months if their numbers are going down reporting it though I I I was gonna say that I was Gonna I was GonNa say just kicked out just kicked out all the time I saw that. So what are you? What are your thoughts on that? I mean I is heard. They built four hospitals in like forty eight hours or whatever. Obviously we can't trust the Chinese numbers it is it getting worse over there or are we believing any of the numbers that it's dropping. My quite by larger question was if it is dropping over there and they'd be not it's about three or four months. Can we kind of look at that? Timeframe is when we might be starting to decline in numbers over here or do you see this going on like trump said till July and August and this might even be a reoccurring yearly thing like the flu where we might I think at three months from now. I think that in in the next three months where it's going to be contained to the the we're comfortable being out in public with it now. I think so. I don't I mean I don't know I don't know what it's GonNa look like but you know There are people out there that you know like you said they are coming up with some classes of drugs. That will help it will it? Will it be what Will it be one hundred percent concrete? No but will it be to the point that you know some of the things that there. There's a drug for example. I'M GONNA mention a drug guy It's called attract console and it now there for anybody that is listening to this There is the national The NCBI or you guys can go take a look at it there it says the clinically license. Ada Fungal drug I turn the CONNAH's all inhibits influenza virus in. Vitro and in Vivo Jonas GERRAD SCO is one of the authors and they and they also again with Lindor Brunette. Now this is an abstract But I mean the. The abstract is influence a virus. Isv is a common pathogen respiratory disease and the IV and do seasonal epidemics and sporadic pandemics associated with high orbit immortality therefore protection in therapy for IV infections is an important challenge encountered this public health threat. This is a drug that has that has worked in cap in the feline or the cat version of SARS or Kovin. They're going to re they want. This is one of the drugs. Are Looking at to repurpose that for humans. Now the other one has been. There's another drug out. There is an. It's confirmed effective on cove in nineteen. It is a. It's called chloroquine phosphate. And this is an anti malarial drug now. The reason this one is important in the reason. This is hope. Is that when when We have history of of Anti Malarial drugs working on viruses so when they first took the Irish to Montserrat. They died because they weren't resistance malaria but when he took the west Africans there they were and that. That's a kind of a history lesson but we have models of this fighting viruses and the problem and so I think with it. You know the world is going to come together and say hey listen we need a? We NEED TO GET A. We had a vaccine for this. We were having. This debate is the one that was another thing. GonNa ask you because I've already seen the Canadians or somebody. I think I posted yesterday. How they're already already have. Some measure of vaccine isn't the timeframe for an adequate and effective vaccine like a year. So any talk of the vaccine this premature is probably. Horse Shit right yeah. It's the same because Tom Brady. Got Traded the buccaneers. They're going to win. A I mean that's that's is doing George in addition to being an incredible thinker. He's the president of the Tom. Brady Fan Club. He's really broke up that he's not going to be in New England any longer. So let me ask you and this might be out of your purview. 'cause I know you saw this as well and this is another red flag for me when I see all this shit. Play out you go back to. I think October or earlier this year. You saw event twenty-one sponsored by the World Economic Council Bill Melinda Gates Foundation on very specifically a reaction to a pandemic from corona virus. And then I I mean it's a very common virus or maybe they could just be planning for some measure eventuality but this plays out and then you know within the last couple of days. Bill Gates resigns from Berkshire Hathaway and and Microsoft. I mean it does any of that. Raise any red flags to you. Is that just you know standing operating procedure just planning for a possible pandemic because Corona virus is common? And I think a lot of it is that you know there's a lot of it's easy you know one of the things I always say. That correlation doesn't mean causation. Amiya you take a look at where if the more amount of Nicholas cage movies. Come up more people dying alka seriously. Okay okay with that set. As a military guy look at the correlation of how many drills take place before so many of these things nine eleven et Cetera et Cetera. Not Okay but the. The United States Marine Corps Reserve halted all weekend reserve. Meetings are drills. So why would you know if that was the case when that ramp up not ramp down? I mean you know you just started. You know. I don't even mean that's just military drills just different companies. Say Black ops but just drilling these kind of scenarios whether military or private companies. I think there's something to worry about. I just I don't know I don't know the whole of it. I think a lot of it is. I think a lot of it just has to to do a that. It is. It's maybe just that time and then you had to you know within the last month. These resignations of McDonnell Douglas the other day. Mgm Like there's a series of pretty hefty resignations from huge companies in the last month and a half could be. Nothing could be absolutely nothing because people resigned all the time. One of the things that you gotta think about too is when they started stepping down the market was at an all time high was thirty right hovering right around twenty nine to thirty thousand so quick. Yeah but I mean seriously if I was if I you know there's a school of thought you know we can go. That one is Is THAT IF THEY. They knew that the market was going to to go down. Are we gonNA head for recession and last year in November When was it? The middle of November is right after Veterans Day One of the guys from Goldman Sachs came out and said that there's going to be a you know we're looking at maybe a a recession so time in the first First quarter rang the splits. I'm not an economist. Saying how are we not already bro? Literally within the last week and a half last whatever it was Wednesday we broke the record for the biggest single-day loss three days later we three days later we top that and then yesterday we topped it again. Almost three how are we know? How is it not just collapsed at this point? I wish I knew more about the economy but those numbers are devastating. Be well because the world economy's lot stronger than you know. Our world economy is a lot stronger than people. Think I mean it's it's it's you know. The fact is that we have globalization which people say is bad but at the same time you take a look at you know the wider the base. I mean this is an old wrestling axiom. The you know we're fighting AXIOM THE WATER. The base the hardest to knock you over that also. I think there will be no this. This current global economy is built on very fragile bubbles right now and this thing is I mean we've talked numerous times about Deutsche Bank about wells. Fargo we talked about a lot of the stuff that's going on. So many people are over leveraged stop. Is this this in my mind luck? You can call me a nutjob. Whatever this this to me is very clearly whether it was an accidental release of this whether it was an animal the human transfer whether it was a lab Releasing it on purpose to get started whatever the case this is being used as camouflage honest and overhaul and we got before we got. Joseph Dr Joseph P Farrell coming back on Oxford scholar. Monday to really break this down. And it's in the numbers that I can't quadrille derivatives the collateralized debt obligations like the huge amount of bubble. We're talking about and then we go and drop to three trillion in there. Burnett Anki. There's a video banenky online on sixty minutes and he's asking like Sir. How are we doing this? And he's like well. We just go on the computer and move the Zeros Likely. They created out of nothing they do. But you can do that when you can. You can do that is that you are able to do that when you have a credit economy. It's just like this okay. I mean you know you look at it if you are a if if you are in credit economy right You you're able to do that all the all you're doing is saying okay. Listen I'm GonNa pay you back later. I mean we had. We've had futures for five thousand years. You know. Future note is nothing new. We've had that for the Romans used to give that. I used to have that two thousand years ago. I mean that that is what you know. You gotta remember that. Jesus topple the temple because of the money lenders. And guess what guess what the interest rate was when Jesus knocked over the money lenders. You'll take a guess zero eighteen to twenty percent okay. I'm sorry I kind of like I said no but I mean that was the the story of the you know the talents were. That's what the usery essentially. It was a matter of usery in that legal in certain unless you're some shylock type Loan Shark Type. Shit and I was twenty percent. I mean if you and here's the thing if you redeemed I I mean I'm just using historical numbers whether you whether you believe in the Bible not does it. But if you redeemed the tide right if you redeemed the ties the interest on redeeming tides was twenty five percent. That's where it comes from. You got up and again. I'm a friend of mine. Waste wanted me on this one of these other elements of this. What I'm looking at a possible collapses like Treasury bonds where people invest in. You know basically an investment in America's almost zero percent. You're getting nothing for it. So that to me is also a huge sign. The stock market less so much even though it is a huge barometer things like yield on t t bonds and zero percent interest low. I mean it's it's not a good sign they were saying to three years ago. We're looking at another correction after two thousand eight and what? I'm seeing here these last few weeks. It's almost not a matter of it's going to happen it's win. It's going to happen right and part of it is is that you know. Here's one of the other things too that You know a lot of this is media. Driven. I mean part of it. Is that you know You know a lot of this. Is You have a lot of medium media driven Hyperbole and I mean it is just. It is just crazy That some of the stuff that people are putting out of there and one of the one of the reasons is that a lot of people fill in what they don't now with conjecture because again you know you want answers to something that sometimes doesn't exist. I mean we had this. You know thinking about this for a second. We've had you know and I've said this to people numerous times I've been you know I get it. I got an argument today. One of the things that we've seen in toxins right has not changed in. You know we've one of the people who has not changed in thirty to forty years. Which is something called the absorption rate and so the absorption rate is how many? How many toxins can your body absorb before you go into shock? And that's that's a pathology so if you know for example I you know this is a. I don't know how to I are phrases. Yeah I'm GonNa do this Barney style. I love that most of them most of US use people have used raid and and roach killer in their house right. Yes I mean I would recommend. I'm going to say this on a on a side. Now if you use raid any of the Roach killers in your house or any of those Make sure that. It's well ventilated. Make sure that you're not breathing in the fumes. We've got a mask on okay. I've always thought those were pretty kill. Bugs why would it kill us? George come on. Yeah well I know but you know. We're dumb wrestlers. So now I remember even as a kid spring. That should be down wind from it when I was spraying. Just like that was not good so one of the things is you can breathe that stuff in for one day you can breathe in for second day. Hugh breathing and for the third day. Four Day kills you on the other hand. Have a ball but those those are the things that you get. What in toxins become they hit? What's called a saturation level? So once you get to a certain level in your system you die now. What now you know. Pat is one hundred eighty five pounds You know how which is absorption rate. Well it could be you know X. amount at three hundred milliliters. You are one hundred. Eighty five pounds hundred. Ninety your three hundred milliliters being up to ninety five maybe five hundred million. A you know every system is different. So that is why cert- people react different to toxins. Why what is the deal? I'm hearing about and this could be whatever again. It's hard to get real information. That kids are walking around as symptomatic into spreading and spreading having no symptoms with with kids. Well because remember when remember when we did this show a right after the debate with Dell big tree and told an An I asked the question to pat and we assets that. Remember when you're a little kid that you didn't know people that had resistance or peanut allergies or even Even with Pat. He didn't gluten guy. You're right so what happens today. You know with kids. `As they have a hardy are most kids. Not all most have a heartier resistance because they just don't have as many toxins in your in there they. They don't have toxins in their system. They they have developed those allergies yet. Because he's just don't have you know they don't have thirty or forty years of breathing in dust or you know or being around so they don't they don't show so it's I'll use the the Daycare model would hepatitis. B Hepatitis B. Break out a couple of years ago when I was in Chicago. They had a daycare where the kids had tested. They're tested positive for hepatitis. B But the adult workers were the ones are showing symptoms and the reason was that the kids were passing into the adults and because the children were ace of dramatic. Because again you. Don't you don't have a saturation level. The children they they were fine. The the adults got sick so interesting and again it goes to you know like I said it goes into into saturation levels. It goes into how much. How much can your body absorb before you get into everybody's body's different like the guy who got cured? I had the right antigens. You've mentioned Dell. You had said something that you're GonNa meet back without. He just posted a video the other day talking about this. Are you guys talking about meeting up meeting backup del? Big Tree of course the producer and director and host of the vaccine. I told you this or not and I. And maybe I got invited to their conference in I got invited into their con. They're having a conference on the State House lawn. Ohio hopefully doesn't get canceled on. May the fifth or may the fourth I gotTa take a look at the first week in. May they are Having a conference on the HP V. Vaccine and I got invited there by one of the the researchers so Because one of the things we have been doing is we've been testing paradoxical effects of of vaccines as an antigens so one of the things that we found out and especially recently that One of the with the Motto Cadre. We've tested in mice that when you expose them to accretive peptides that have loosened in another compound that we've developed Which is a a polymorphic compound from peptides They've had in forty six percent of the mice that we've tested We have had positive results for Monica Healing and or repair. And what we do is we just. I WanNa go down the science about this for a minute. So when Brenda tells me to go do my research I I'm gonNA tell them exactly. Please explain for our audience. Who BRENDA BRENDA? What so the reason I use. Bread of Brenda was a a a female in Ohio that withheld medical treatment for her child and the child died and so Brennan was charged with involuntary reckless reckless abandonment of a child. And it wasn't it was a collector. Something criminal act and she went to use her first name. Was Brenda in so I just use that as a model because just think it's funny so one of the things that we found out was that we introduced this this peptide About forty six percent of the mice had their their mighty connor. He'll so what we do. Is We take the miles and we take their rear planters ligament and that it. Because it's the media the media part of the the we dissect their back leg open and we pull that out. And that's what we test and I it's like it'd be taken out of your quadricep basically and that's what we test and we see an about like. I said in in the control class that we had forty six percent of the mice. We tested had positive results or positive. Monica andriotto repair after exposure to toxic fumes. So that was and I think that's going to be promising our approach to say he. Listen if you've been exposed to toxin. What can we give you as either prophylactic or post exposure therapy to rebuild tissues and yeah to rebuild your your your tissues and that is one of the that is one of the tests. Now we have since then we have We have ran the task we have then given them to another latte off site lab to verify our numbers With tissue samples and say. Hey listen. This is what we've seen Pete Pre and post Exposure what do you think about it? Are we do we get data correct? Are We Are the cells You know are the cells. Visible in repair is. Can we trace the pathology from once? We've introduced the compound into their system. Came betrays the COMP- the both intra cellular in inner cellular. So that's that's where we're at right now. And and by the way we have another conference we have another meeting with Dr Sheva from Mit. And we're we're one of the things we're trying to do because this is an expensive process. I mean if I had the twenty million that pat did I would just go to a remote lab in somewhere North Dakota and just twenty million. Why the Hell Am? I even wasting time with you. Guys man the the allegiance. The alliance only goes so far like Ted. Db OSCE. Everybody has a price over here. Well turn it into about one hundred fifty million here after the market drops a little more and buy low sell high so George. That's why I love men. I mean you have a very practical very pragmatic very level headed approach to this. You're not fearmongering as far as this is the big collapses is the big reset. Even though you know I might disagree as far as that goes. But what are you basically advising people as we hear the head of the CDC etc? Is it just kind of commonsense? Wash your hands at this point self corentin etc or is that okay so this is what you can do as a you know from a practical standpoint. This is what you could do a wash your hands. Keep your hands washed. Never to stay away from people number three Lysol is your friend. You know Clorox is your friend. If you don't have access to Lysol just get some bleach Measure basically quarter. You know Use a quarter of a cup of bleach poured into a bottle. Add some water to it. Make your own compound spray down You know spray down. A you know things that you're gonNA touch all the time especially in your bathroom You know a little bit you know. A one or two drops of bleach in dishwater would help from you know if you're using dishes of your you know one from the house Number two something you not something. You're not thinking about Take your shoes. Do not walk around your house with shoes on. Take your shoes off at the door and leave him by the door. Leave him outside spam down. When you get to the house. I mean the the reason is you're gonNA track dirt in your house and then you're gonNA walk all over the house with dirty shoes for been out in public or if you are taking you know. Put them in a in a plastic bag sprays Lysol and and keep him by the door That will help. Spray down If you're at a gas station use a wipe for the handle. Because you don't know how many people have touched that handle in a in a in the course of day. Cash handling cash I've started a couple of restaurants are only taking two goes through a credit card and could be a part of the larger getting rid of Caz Provocateurs currency cat the monetary seriously handling cash. That something to be China's up and handling cash. And then you know you can because caches cloth by the way the American cash system. I don't know I know you'd reach people in multiple countries but they American. What is your dollar bills? Made from fiber so fiber has a residual control after fourteen. You know one of the state the dangers with with Cova nineteen has been. It's got an incubation day of fourteen days so you can have it for fourteen days. I thought it was twenty to move to like twenty four twenty eight. It could be you know an. I'm sorry before you go. That's the scary part when trump the other day was like? Hey don't come in here and just get test is to be tested. You gotta be sick or show. Symptoms which dismay counterintuitive. Because you have been walking around it for almost a month or even two weeks spreading it with no symptoms of the damage is already done. I'm not saying advocate test. Everybody but I guess we might get to the point where we might have to just test everybody. Because if the long incubation period extends I guess the more people are getting infected. Yeah we we might have to start testing a lot of people because they're not gonna be happy about it but we gotta test people. I mean New York is talking about it in an in place quarantine. Here's the thing that bigger the city more exposure you risk because it's a you know floating Petri dish One of the things that I will tell you this one of the things to avoid is you know. Don't put your I. I know this is gonNA sound fucking stupid people out there don't reach you know if you're eating something like don't share food with other people You know if you have a bag of peanuts don't let one person put their hands in You know measure amount in it. You know they're old. You know their own. Did I mean I know that you know you've got you've got PAT has three rugrats? Which probably you know Or what I like to call tax deductions walking around the house. And also the other thing. Put that fucking Spit Cup away. 'cause you're that's another thing that makes you susceptible to the virus? Listen JORDAN OUT WITHOUT GERMS. Without germs of our immune systems. Do not get any stronger. I am lucky that I grew up in a wrestling room. As are you lucky that we grew up in wrestling rooms with all the crazy infections and everything else going around I played in dirt played in the woods my whole life and frankly you know it's a we survived catching you know many things when we were younger so? I I think that the the constant use of the antibacterial soaps and all the other stuff is just making people more vulnerable to the big bugs that are GonNa come along g member. I gotTa ask you the funny story though I mean the on. And you never can never concurred with me saying they. They say overuse. I've heard that overuse of that. It does I. Don't you know I I don't I don't use any time I remember back in. I gotTa tell you this because you know. This is your era We a we had a workout session at the OTC. And I remember remember Roy Solider. Did you know him or you or you buddies with him me. Yeah I wrestled. I wrestled against him when I was a kid. Right Royces a you know. He's a buddies. Good friendly you know. But we're at the Olympic Training Center and this is nine hundred ninety and I've been to the Olympic training a couple. I don't remember any in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and I know that this is not that long ago. But we're out there with Royce and Kenny Monday. And you know Tom Erikson and Marcos out there and I don't remember hand sanitizer anywhere. I remember like we used to use now. When we we got done wrestling we had to clean the mats. And we you know we use this. It was bleaching and I forget what else I I don't even remember what the but we never had any of that stuff and I don't remember like in five years at Ohio state. We never had a breakout. I remember the time we went to the Olympic Training Center. I remember when Rico Chap really was sick and he was in the room. No one else got sick. I mean how. How bad of both of you guys. How bad of a case of staff have you seen? Though you know what other than Kevin Random woman I have not seen when I stayed and and Kevin was an idiot about how he handled it so I love. Kevin is one of my dear friends I mean. I wrestled them every day when I was at Ohio state but he I don't remember even at Ohio State. We never had a staph infection. Have we never had even if potato we had one we had one case of ringworm. But you know I I understand you know that was because the guy was an idiot but you know he used to. You know a lot of the stuff that we get in the room and Larkin's where we rustled when I was at Ohio State. Larkins was a you know if you take a look at how the it was an old part of the the building. It had very few windows. I mean it just had so much exposure to germs and Farley. It was we never had a team flew I remember when A few years ago I forget what What what team you're familiar with. The they can go to the Midlands Pat because they you know like six six or eight of their guys had caught team flew. Do you remember how I do not remember? I do not remember I think it. It was either Cornell or digressing because people might on who the hell these people are but the larger point pizza. Yeah but I'm saying as we got older The one of the The one of the teams that we saw had you know they use hand sanitizer. They use bleach. They use all of this stuff and I don't remember this when I was You know twenty years ago or thirty years ago and I think that this is. I wonder what we've talked about that PAT and you know back in the day hell you you ask your kid to climb a tree like why the fuck would. I climb a tree like dude. Because you're playing. You weren't at home. You were playing during the doorbell. Hakin pat play like that was like that was your thing so like we obviously expose yourself to more but I mean going back to kind of kids being resilient I wonder how many more kids because they are living that more sedentary life lifestyle might be affected by this obviously with respiratory getting obese and fat. 'cause they don't freak and move so that'll be interesting to see how those numbers differentiate from like. You said twenty three years ago. Yeah Yeah I mean. This is the other thing Jeffrey. Where did you grow up? What part of the world same same as Pat Quad cities? Okay I mean again. It goes back to you. Don't do you remember people having Do you remember people having peanut allergy's back in the negative negative even as an adult when I heard on like peanuts like yeah and I mean? I'm not trying to be trying to be funny but I remember we used to drink. I I know this sound weird but I remember. We had this lady. That was one of the one of the nicest ladies ever. She used to make. Kool-aid from You know she's kool-aid in his old glass pitcher and I remember a couple. Was you take a drink out of a glass? Give it to your buddy. He would pour a glass drinking and two or three people drink out of like the same glass. We never got sick. And I don't know if it's part of the problem has been is that we are creating a weaker immune systems or the friend that you know. That's always sick like coming up. Yeah they're like you know. As far as I got older friends at many are always sick. Yeah and I think a lot of it is one of the things that I think goes back to. I'm I'm GonNa give you my opinion in a couple of the other people that I deal with. We have started treating pain as a disease. So and why that is that now. If you're in any kind of pain you know if you're in any kind of pain you go to the doctor and we created the opiate crisis because again if you if you don't know. Pa Oh my back hurts okay. Here's you know. Hydro cody okay. Well it's ninety five percent addictive. Oh you know you know and then that that's one of the problems that you have so I don't know if I hope this becomes a wakeup call for all of us that say. Hey listen we need to change the way we approach medicine? We need to know the other thing is. We need to making drugs overseas a bring them back into the US and especially MED kits testing devices. Iv bags You know crash cart drugs we need to bring all of that back into the United States. We can't we can't afford to have foreign powers be able to make that for us. You think of all the diabetes drugs you think of so many different drugs that people absolutely need to keep to keep going. I mean I mean God. Let them keep the psychotropic drugs for God's sakes but but now the there's so many drugs you know the Nitroglycerin. To keep to help people get through a potential heart attack. The you know the diabetes drugs and many other things that people absolutely need right now but It's just it's nuts and this does serve. I mean some there are some bright spots as you said with potentially bringing back manufacturing here of those types of drugs of many many things that that we would you know a lot of people get jobs of that. That'd be great. Yeah and I think the reset of this. I mean whatever whether it's manmade whatever that seat has been planning that ripple effect ripple effect is going is going to continue to go and possibly grow but like I said we're not really gonNA see the the real dark side of this for a little bit and you know coming out the other side it's going to be in my opinion such a huge massive reset. 'cause it might sound dramatic or whatever but I was saying the other night on my facebook. Live like remember pre-nine Eleven. You know what was going on. Your Life Pre. I mean this is almost like member. It's going to be like member pre corona. Because I think it's going to be such a huge game changer. For everything and you don't kill much food that much food alone restaurants bars and hotels hotels make up five percent of the GDP right so restaurants bars hotels. How much food alone and booze those those places. Serve the supply lines. I mean it's going to go dry. People are people are losing their jobs on the back end of this. You're not where where there's no more need to ship Stuff out because all of these restaurants and bars and everything else are closed and hotels This this spells financial disaster for for many many many businesses. And who you know when when when the Oh eight housing collapse happened happened. Fannie Mae Mac banks you know certain. Certain groups need bailing out. Everyone needs to be bailed out with this one and there is nobody to bail them out. You know this I think the federal government I mean the Fed could bail them out. I mean some places. They've you know they've done you know ranked control they've done for everyone right but I mean but you know. Listen I if we are either either. We're all Americans were not American. I mean seriously ill and I know that but these fuckers at the top really. I mean every that's saying that the data's they've let are no stone unturned from your Bardia restaurant transportation all the way up to the NHL Nascar. I mean you're talking sports alone. No March madness. What no wrestle. I mean you're talking billions of dollars just with and you moving to all these other aspects of society. I mean it's going to be trillions. Yeah I mean you're right about that. I mean it is going to be one of the things you can make up lost revenue. You can make up loss revenue after how long and after what damage is done to the buying power of the dollar is this not Weimar Republic type shit show. I mean I know we're not economist. But when you create all this fucking money we just pumped three billion in the last three days. I'm sorry I keep saying trillion. In my mind the reset has to be so extensive that everybody goes back to zero percent own owed to other people. I don't know with Italy. Suspending mortgage payments for up to a year. I believe with else are they gonNA? Irs EXTENDED ATTACK IRS is pushing back filing dates. Ninety days. You know that's GonNa get pushed back even further. You realize that guys when I don't know if there's a bigger picture here where Is there going to be a run against the Federal Reserve to kill the Fed? I don't know and the real deal breaker for me. And I'm dead fucking serious when you push back the PAT militant fucking Michael. Nunn fight till June when it was scheduled me. I'm telling you what it is about to go down son. Luckily we already had that. Push back the trying to find a little drama. I knew that pat you do that. Why did you just step on my drama over there? My goodness I right trying to. Wwe Luck. I mean maybe both of them come to their senses and not fight it fifty years old and they get brain hematoma from a vast guy. This guy how dare you. I mean you know I wouldn't want the I mean I love mark but I wouldn't want market in the cage right now. You know I'm GonNa Marks Marks Marks Mark has has taken a few more shots than I have. George I don't know man that I've never been knocked out and never had a concussion. I want to quote. You generally had concussion concussion. I'm Croatian dude. I'm invincible. You have a brain size the size of the peanut. I would imagine so. That's fine with superior genetics. He's a man Ford to steal and fire and colder. And I've said it before that's why that's why the Ottoman Empire got stopped insist. Croatia is fifteen ninety three we savior Greek asses of. Oh Shit about to have a fucking Qarase's turn. I mean seriously. I think we took the right turn. I mean look if you take a look for a marathon you know former. I mean when they stopped him at Baratheon Greece. Good at running from correlations creches the beginning of the Western culture but You know but again it goes back to you know you know. Let's talk about that for a second. In the antigens that are present in Croatians Greeks Balkan States and fi in four thirty two A. B. C. There was a huge There's a huge you know. Virus outbreak in Athens and people that survived it. It you know it it mirrors either Ebola or the plate. People survived it There's an outbreak in eighteen. When a mess along which is in here. There's an outbreak in eighteen forty or eighteen. Forty two in the MED People survived it. So if you if you survive if your great grandfather survived some you know horrific plague and you know. They passed on that solar memory to the kids when obviously we're talking a few generations. Obviously because I mean you look at the number of Italians that are kind of in this geo specific region. You're talking about there. Are A lot are dying so lots obviously changed in the genetic sequence a lot of them also to you gotta remember that part of the thing is that the. Italians didn't take it seriously. And didn't do any social distancing you know they didn't do any of those things that would have prevented it so when. I asked somebody that 'cause they're very greedy tout. Abella kissing in that whole kind of very physical. No one knew the severity. Two months ago I mean and even and here's one of the things I go back to. We saw this when you know when people. When Ebola broke out how in Africa we saw the two because when we said Ads Africa Central Democratic Republic of Congo. It's over there. We're not and then. We had an ebola outbreak at the southern border. Well now it hit home You know it when it first started on. Wuhan like ads. The Chinese we don't care they got it kills three hundred million people rounding error and all of a sudden. It's in your doorstep in a thousand cases are in as of today. The prediction is eh tomorrow. Morning or Friday morning the thousand case will be in New York City. Now here's going back to one real quick. I mean I don't mean to. I've got sent all this stuff. Five G. Started and Wuhan October can is there any correlation possibly because it's one of the huge things have been sent to me how five? G. Did pump popoff in Wuhan I think it was October. Two thousand eighteen or maybe April but any correlation whatsoever I don't know I don't know enough about five. I haven't researched five G. supposedly it's one of the symptoms of g feel disoriented Flu Symptoms I. Don't I mean it just seem to like reach to me because I've heard all kinds of different theories but I did want to bounce that off you. I don't I have not. Here's the thing I have. I have not studied a have not studied five G. so I would and so I can't give anything. I can't give a qualified answering that and that's one of the things I one of the things I try to stay out of is I've I've if I don't know enough about it. Don't get into the smooth. That's the move I would rather than you know. I think one of the things that we we need to do. I will say this. I'M GONNA go back into one of the studies it's happened we have some antiviral compounds that are available and we have antiviral compounds that are available commercially. That before you get into the. I don't know what you want to call them a the pharmacology behind but there are some anti bar. Get a hold of some of them. Take them it'll help you out. If nothing else you'll be a little bit healthier get plenty of sleep you know. Don't smoke take some of the you know. I don't want to promote one because I don't want to be you know like Oh you know. Lavender oil but you know find some Franson Google antiviral properties of compounds and there are some that are naturally occurring. Then so you're also you're also suggesting and also frowning upon the licking toilet seat challenges that GonNa fall in the don't do in that. I just and again last year you get a show about kids eating taipans. Yes this is you know. I'm crazy with those kids. Make a challenge out of seriously but on a serious note. I do appreciate the fact that you've really really kept it. Real Dude you know. I will say again me from MY STANDPOINT ECHO. My Co host standpoint. I think there is a lot more going onto this but as we do here the information for this ladies and gentlemen Like within the throws of this the fog of war. You know we're all trying to just hang on and maintain basic needs maslow's hierarchy of needs kind of all trying to maintain right now but still realize within the National Defense Authorization Act. They legalize propaganda on American citizens. So always try to get as much information you can on this please. Just don't go to one source whether it's conspiracy farm or MSNBC or anywhere because the implications of this are very very serious and really at this point the die has been cast to quote Caesar. But it's it's really one of those Is that a matter of if and win. We just gotTA protect ourselves. Protect your family. Obviously like you said. Try to limit in as everyone said. Try to limit your interaction with people you know. Obviously we're going to survive this. This too shall pass but kind of at what cost as they say. These are those times sold ladies and gentlemen. Well one of the I think one of the things you also gotta go back to is that we need to. We need to come together and we need honest. You know what I mean. Part of it is. We need honest brokers. We need to be able to tell the truth and we need to say you know. Give some ugly truth said you know there are some people like. I said you know I think our eye on a conservative level. I think before this is over. We know conservatively. We we could lose fifty thousand people. Are they saying because of the stress? And it's GonNa it's GonNa have on you know the the budget cetera. They're making those whatever they call it kind of death. Death panel choices like this sixty seventy eighty year old person. We just gotTa let him go. I mean those decisions. I hear are being made off more viable in younger. They put them in the bed instead of the elderly which again goes against the number one of the hippocratic oath. First do no harm. So it's like man we go down that slippery slope. I'm just going tell you this. We just had a you know one of the cases you know I. I have to verify this but I just saw this today was that one of the homeless in California died today from Corona Corona virus. And I I don't think they got treatment now here. Here's the other thing that you know the problem with you. Know the problem. With the corona virus out there is that you had typhoid typhus Some of them. You know that that's a a and here's here's what. California's not doing their. You know a lot of the the mechanisms that could kill the virus That could kill the animals that carry the virus. They did away with so now. You'RE GONNA have animals that are you know because you're protecting wildlife and I'm not saying let let's go kill all the wildlife and I'm saying that you know you're gonNA you're not killing some the mice that are going to transfer this. I just think it's a bad approach there and so you know. California's just put seven million people into lockdown San Fran six was six men. Yeah but the schools are being canceled. Senator said it's it's a shit show out there already but going back to the person who died everybody and I've looked at this specifically everybody who dies. I always look to see. Did they just die specifically of crossovers? They're usually older in suffering from something already so like corona virus almost like age. You don't die from AIDS who die from the sickness that comes from the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. So it's It's Freaky Dude and honestly I've been sleeping like shit. I'm just like stress like I think everybody is in his really good to have these conversations. Man I'm so glad you're there pat. You're there in. The show is here and the farmers of their friends family farmers to kind of let us vent and you know hopefully well. Yeah I just got another. I just got another message from facebook saying another one of my post goes against other community standards on span this time where I just said economic sabotage or monetary reset regarding the the corona virus. I didn't send it to you. But there's been articles in the last seventy two hours three or four days that have said Youtube and facebook are going extra hard against whatever whatever they call guidelines. You know like the the one thing about gargling saltwater was predominantly stupid I think one of them You know now this. Is You know. Facebook keeps marking. The verge just came out with this. It said that Keeps market legitimate news articles about the current fires fan? No one knows why I just don't think that they've got the I don't think they've got the He I don't think they the Algorithm knows what to do yet and I think that that's part of the Prom you think. Well you gotta remember I mean they they shut down fucking VACs conversation any of the language any of these keywords do these power words are just. I mean they've been flagging our shit on youtube forever and I don't really trip on it because it's just another birthday you didn't know me and pats interaction right. If you didn't know that you know me and you know I mean how many times impediment real life a few times. I mean if I if you didn't know honor interaction. And I said to pat on his unopposed. I'm going to fucking kill you. If you didn't know that impact knew each other real life. What you would you would absolutely go with the Hell's wrong with that guy. He you know Some people so there's no there's no way to. There's no way to distinguish Sometimes Algorithm doesn't have you know a human version of it. If you typing chip into Google is it a potato chip. Is it a micro chat? I what you're saying. It could be a wide variety but pat just kind of almost illustrated. It could be completely fucking benign and we've both been going through. Everyone's been kind of going through. Who posts anything even obviously anyway controversial. I literally just posted when the Quad Times. Our local paper said about the the rescheduling of the fight between PAT and Michael. None I reposted it and said nothing malevolent whatsoever and then it's you sent me things that you can't post it because it goes against community guidelines et Cetera. Like really okay right. Is it the name military that those passively one now I mean it just I mean but I think what they're worried about right now is the fact that that people are you know. Mitt spreading misinformation. But why that he might as well said my next fuck and Tupperware parties next Wednesday at seven like? That's almost as benign as well. I mean I zero in a while because it just triggered a fairly. He's being zeroed in on like a fucking ten maniac. But I mean the we've they cut off our ability to do facebook lives. I mean the algorithms say are already there to flag people who consistently post the shit that we do. We've been dealing over their terms on seventeen occasions apparently your batteries but again the CA's got to our boy. George he's real back he's really back on being a bio weapon now he's saying it's just an accidental algorithm. My goodness what's happening. I mean again. I think it's I think part of the you know I think part of the problem has been is that again. You know people Are just not You know people are just not you know they're spreading misinformation again and I think that's I think that that is what is that. Why is that happening was CNN or MSNBC OR CNBC? The same cats. Who are you know been spreading? I mean that's always peculiar that. Who GETS flagged in? That's why we know those tech companies are basically you know we love them. We use them but there are part of the system too because they help support often times these false narratives that pat myself and all these different shows to deconstruct. Then we get in trouble for trying to deconstruct the bullshit. They set up. It is what it is. I don't a lot of it to the that you know one of the like I've made a post one time and people literally did not You know so one of the things that I've done my posts because people are just too stupid to know the difference between a satire or post started emerging them with a shield to say. This is legitimate post because otherwise people are you know I mean seriously. I made a post one day. That was That was just you know I don't know what you want. You want to call it satire if people thought it was legit and I'm like wow you guys are just not I mean seriously now I think it could be from social. Media is cancel. Culture is very weird. Whether you're George parties are free can Kevin Hart can't host the Oscars. We went back two years and found something on your phone. I mean that's literally where we're at right now. I mean I'm I'm I'm an actor and I got an agent and I told my agent it's GonNa be tough to be anything dope really. I mean. That's Sam talented to do it. But they're going to back all right. Let's check your social media of course as well you co host. What I'll tell you this one of the reasons why we've been doing the testing that we have with on our own is because some of the stuff I mean if you if you look at some of the Shit that I post on social media you'd be you're not WHOA I. I'd be on higher bill you know. H I did. Hr's nightmare I mean that's why last night and it was. You know. Pat Always chastise me. Because you know he's like my counselor at summer camp sometimes but last night I post I posted. Hey Ass. Eating season is officially over. I found that quite hilarious and a lot of other people too but I had actually a close loved one like this was inappropriate. I'd like to do this. Fucking say inappropriate to me. Did you get a bath? Bad wooded bed bath and body works basket with that post like come on inappropriate. I'm just cracking out. Yeah I mean it. It's one of the things that That you know that is happening. And then part of the part of the other promise who and I think people are taking you know social media to to seriously like one of the things that I I've ran into and ran into this just as much as I have I did I did a thing one day. And you know I got a you know agree with Joe Rogan. I've been training martial arts for forty years since nineteen eighty or even before that it's sixth. Grade Nineteen seventy. I'm fifty four. So nine hundred. Seventy seven right. It took me a long time to you know I started out boxing. A wrestled a dead doe. I got my I got a second degree black. Learned judo I avoid fights like you would not believe and I'm pretty trained. Most march arts are like that. Most genuine martial-arts have very chill. I don't fight. I don't unless I'm physically pushed or challenged in a in a position that I have no other option. I'm not going to fight and I'm trained You know I've I'm a combat that I'm you know I I mean and I and I'm tr- I'm training. I've said I've coached at Ohio state. I wrestled dare I. You know I could take down just about you know most people your pussy as what you're saying and I would Ya. I would not fight somebody in a in a real fight it I if I had to. I unless I these knuckleheads online. That have never know. They don't know how to transition from a you know from the from the Guard to a triangle choke or from a triangle. Choke to an arm bar. And you're gonNa tell me you wanNA fight somebody you think. You've got the confidence to fight somebody. You're going to call out a line. You don't know what it's like and I'm like dude. It just surprises me and I've not seen anywhere else As bad as it does when people think they can find that they can't. That's what movies I don't know a complete not digressing but I was just thinking about documentary. I saw this guy went in he serving life now but he went into these guys and somebody out of the bathroom just jumped out and he jumped into karate stance but then the guy's like sit the fuck down shot him. You know like biggie. Said Fuck Taekwondo. I told the photo but yeah I mean I think a lot of the Kung Fu movies gave people a false impression that like even though I dude I hope your ass. I watched all the Bruce Lee movies. You Know Right. You know drill. I mean I'm on the Mat every week. I have my own cage at my gym. I have you know I have a gym in my own. My own gem have my own cage. I train in the cage every week and I wouldn't WANNA FIGHT. Somebody let alone some guy that you know some you know Damn Kyle strict white claw and punching drywall. And he wants to get in a fight every day on facebook. Well again you have nothing to prove. A lot of these people are talking about. These are people who have this is a whole another level of like why they do these things because they obviously they have something to prove with you know why training with people. That's why I quit training with people I don't know and trust because they always go for the golden trying hurt Ya yeah. They're just nuts but I WANNA. I WanNa ask you guys this wing do when Gua- Chinese billionaire Released a statement. I don't know if you guys are aware of this But you need to listen to your statement on the release of of the Corona Virus I take full responsibility to state that the real culprit in the so called virus in Wuhan is a group of Kleptocracy in Chinese Communist Party headed by weighing Schon Chinese VP. Ming Jen Jiao Soon I'm just GONNA go through. Kawasaki Suzuki They plotted the corona virus project. And the chief operator Who Deanne Who has been a bio scientist of Wuhan? University led the project manufacturer and release. The virus is kind of interesting because this guys have Chinese billionaire. You can find more details about the project in the biggest military portal in China. Www dot it's X. L. U. DOT COM. Which is the authoritative military website on behalf of the C. C. p. a. Listen to this. The Corona virus project is the Pandora's box called by Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Wankhede in his speech last year and has also part of Pandora's box that we are going to reveal through our revolution of exposed exposure in three weeks on around February. Twenty Ninth Twenty Twenty. This is interesting He's saying and then lead into a following months. You'll see the real seriousness of the corona virus outbreak. I hope people around the world can collect wisdom to stop the spread of the span. Dora's box completely destroyed the CCP. Devil's incarnation and stop the killing of more good people with virus in the United States and around the world. Everything is just beginning. Well it's even more interesting with that is how Overtly blatantly raised where because Kawasaki and Suzuki both Japanese terms not Chinese. But that's fucking frightening which you just said. Bro Are just reading. It's a it's it's a billionaire statement but again you know people have been cutting into pace in this whole like Tom. Hanks got arrested in Bucket Australia. They raided Oprah's last night. I mean it's just it's just here. Here's one of the things that go back to that right. There's there's a guy is L- you know. There's there's a guy living in his basement right here right somewhere. I don't know where guy living in his basement that has you know. Thanks all of a sudden he you know because he goes to the range once a every month Thanks that they can You know that he could be an operator because he went to the you know because he went to You Know He. He went shot a couple times at the range And Seeing Navy Seals Twenty Times shot. You know shot at Navy seals. I you know I wouldn't you know. There's a huge separation. There you know again it goes there where you know where people are sitting there going. what they think they can do what they actually what they actually can do. Most people You know most people is Or whatever you WANNA call it. Most people aren't kit capable of understanding the level that you need to be able to do to operate at that issues that you know what what I've said to people before is at at at the top one percent okay. This is why it's important understand a little bit about you. Know Jin pharmacogenetics pharmacogenomics. At the top one percent slight variations are the between being a gold medalist and being the silver medal. Was You know the difference between at one hundred meters of a tenth of a seconds? You're either a gold medalist or bronze medals. That's the difference. Ed If you expand the one percent to five the difference there is a difference between you being in the Olympics or you sitting at home not even having a chance to try to go to the Olympic trials or you know. I mean at the at the extremes. Yeah I it's low but when you you wanted to five percent or ten percent you're you know you're not able to do that and so the the problem is with you know it's a lot of the same thing that goes with diseases is if you if you are You know if one a one percent Mutation in a disease will literally you know will make you were rack all sorts of systems draft and that is one of the things that I think that that's one of the things that That is one of the things that I think. People are just not willing to have conversations about that. You know when you're sitting there talking about Th-the Philip Genetic Tree. Which is that you no viruses follow a path. You know they follow model. It doesn't take much of a difference between day. You know if it just mutates one percent. That's also yeah. Yeah it's a huge level and that is why I think a lot of people like one of the things that people did not think about. Is that again? It's the difference between a cup of soup in a bowl sue. We thought this is GONNA be a couple of soup. It's only gonNA affect certain you know certain places. Most people are gonNA be resistant to it. It's not gonNA attack are one B. One haplotypes which is what SARS did not do. I mean and there's plenty of research on that even from you know for the last fifteen years this thing just it just it it just tweaked it just a little bit just and now. We have one hundred sixty one countries as of today. And here's here's an interesting fact and this is what for some of us. We don't understand Iraq has as of today as of You know as of March seventeenth has only a hundred and twenty five reported cases. That Iran isn't Iran with the deaths and right under right under Italy Iran. As of today you know poor and they have porous borders. They have right at one hundred. I'm sorry they had fifteen sixteen thousand reported cases. Now let let's also think think about this is you know. And they're actually reporting those fifteen thousand cases. They're not you know where. North Korea has no cases of course obviously reported cases But as of today Iran has said that we are we are fighting we are fighting fifteen thousand cases and Iran has. Oh wow it just went up. Iran as of today had sixteen thousand one hundred sixty nine cases with eleven hundred seventy eight. Uk Eleven hundred seventy eight and nine hundred. Eighty eight deaths With that goes back to you. We talked you talked about the Persians. Not Having as much neanderthal gene and being more vulnerable to this yeah so that they still exists. And now when I go back to Georgia not to stop you but when we go back to the when we originally talked You had kind of confirmed that this thing most likely came from a laboratory when I read from this billionaires statement. This Chinese billionaire statement saying that. He's going to prove that it came from a laboratory that that it was a man-made strain in a laboratory and released on purpose and it's targeting people with less neanderthal genes which those numbers prove it in Iran Being the being the Persians that have less neanderthal genes. So we can't say that this can we definitively say we? Can't I guess but it's a very likely possibility that it's still came from laboratory and not from a pig in a meat market in eastern China. Well here's a here's strange. Here's a strange concept it it. It follows the technical aspect of it follows. The Follows that it. It's zoonosis type. The technical part of it follows zoonosis type disease virus. Which is what isn't noses that it was transferred from a animal to human. Now the difference being though and this is why we go back to the you know we go back to the going back to the R. One haplotypes in Germany. You had ninety three hundred new cases right and you've had two thousand ninety five you cases. Total cases in Germany was ninety three hundred sixty seven with two thousand ninety five new cases. But they've only had twenty six deaths so that shows yeah they made a guy. But you know it wasn't as fatal. China has only thirteen new cases. An eighty one total cases where eighty thousand eight hundred ninety four Their total deaths was thirty. Two hundred so I don't I again. It goes back to their. You know you should have an antigen for France and again Francis another one It had seventy seven hundred new cases. I seventy seven hundred cases a thousand ninety seven new cases but only one hundred seventy five total death so in those countries with the art won't be one type it is it's not showing to be as deadly. That's so I'm sorry but you're right go ahead and signed pads which is what originally was the original research work in two thousand and four when it was mapped G. mapped in and they put Gino type and they broke down which is which is what I what I said. The first time I was on the show that again we we should have an in areas of the world where we had to be one haplotypes. You're not GONNA have as many. It's not going to be as fatal. We're GONNA have resistance and the numbers are showing that In that in that regard with the exception of Italy because Italy is there they had twenty five hundred total deaths three hundred forty five new deaths and thirty one thousand cases total now. I don't know if if that is You know if that is you know on what they did Like I'll give you an example and just to say are we fully fully fully prepared and I know this is down the conspiracy whole to accept everybody's numbers the? Who's numbers the CDC's numbers? Nobody's is way to lie about this mortality rate or like flab numbers in any way shape or form to create larger. Whatever for any reason is way too. Flubbed these numbers China's doing it but I mean China's got their intranet locked down and that's another thing how these videos from getting out of supposedly from China. But that's another question. I you know what I don't know like I'll give you an example in Croatia. You've had literally sixty nine Do you have sixty nine cases and you know so far. There's not been a single death so I know well I wanted to bring that up and I mean again it. Is You know In in there like I said there are places in the world where it just is not You know it just. It's not you know being. You can't even count it that it's when this all plays out. I really am GONNA be interested to see how and I think it's geographically what dictates but why West Virginia is so just popped up on the radio with their first case today so they don't have you know but increase. You had three hundred eighty seven. You had a total three hundred eighty seven cases thirty five new cases Didn't they have a bike parade? The other day a couple days ago the Greeks just went out and like a big public parade. Did you see that And again it goes into but they've only had five total deaths which is relatively minimum again. It goes back to you know now. South Korea is Doing it right Because they're actually they're attacking their you know they've only had A total of eighty four deaths out of know North Korea's doing it right. They're shooting coronal victims hatching j. The secret authoritarian comes out again. Kim Jong Kim Jong UN is Is Cutting this thing off at the pass? He's just taking them out and shoot them up in by. Let's do it now. Let's look at the bigger picture. I I am honestly not and maybe I'm an asshole for saying those. I'm not as worried about the corona virus itself as I am about financial implications that this is going to fraudulent social. I'll have to stand for the world with and now let's remember. Let's let's remember. We all know history. We've all studied history. We've all studied history enough to know that financial implosion of this magnitude which this one has the potential to be bigger than any other financial implosion in human history considering the bubbles if they go that the only reset button that there is available. There's two of them. Is you either kill the Federal Reserve? Everybody goes back to on zero to anybody and that's a total restart on everything or it's a global war. It's one of the other to get this thing fixed if it continues on the path and it's on and that is maybe I'm a guy who sees nothing but The darkest side of this thing. But I'm San it's either kill the Federal Reserve and create a gold backed currency that our treasury alone they want to go back into a massive war with China. Who knows and before you before you answered droid anymore. Ach Warfare is more more effective. You can mind fuck people way more than you have to physically kill them. Georgia guide stone. Say Five hundred million Populations for the earth in perpetuum. Yeah a global war takes care of that and resets the economy. I mean never. Does I mean seriously that is possible because once you you know if you did have that reset but again you know With five hundred million you don't get You know get some of the. When was that wilmer? Those wrote I was thinking about that today. The Georgia guide stones. Patrick when did when were those sculpted down there when we know the eighties. Those were erected. Okay we don't know in the act. Those actual words were written. Weren't they supposedly built by known? Let me let me Let me look real quick To refresh my man no go for it. We time. Let's see here. We'RE HUNKERED DOWN WE'RE SELF QUARANTINE. Ladies and gentlemen support the farm. The Conspiracy Farm Dot Com sports sponsored swing. Keep doing this shit and support partisan seriously I love these conversations with Uber. Because you kind of you got you got this kind of like Marvin Gaye of the scientific language Georgia guides were built in nineteen eighty nice. What is written on the Georgia Guide? Stones? Might you ask. Maintain humanity under five hundred million in perpetual balance with nature guide. Reproduction wisely improvement and fitness and diversity unite humanity with a new language rule with passion. Faith tradition and all things will with tempered reason. What about the five hundred thousand? Where's that five hundred million again? Five hundred you know what the what the five hundred million is. You know where that came from prices right. No yeah prices right now. It came from That was the the human population when Columbus discovered the new world. 'cause they had census takers out and fucking fourteen o two or whatever the fucking. I just said you can do you can do. What do you call it? You can do mathematics from adamant it does. There's you know people. We know why roughly the world population has been. Now listen to this in Lewiston. Claims Aka Christian Rosen cruise was the founder of the Medical Society of the Rosa Cruzi. In order many suspect that the road crews were financed had financed the building of the Georgia guide stones. Other suspect Is Ted Turner financed the project? Potentially do we know Ted Turner's history? Yeah man he created. He helped Man Georgia championship wrestling world championship pressing. The nature boy ric flair would not be who he is without Ted Turner Jenkins advocate. I know I'm just saying it. Turner We wouldn't have Hanoi Jane. Without Ted Turner Patrick now. Hanno joined his persona non grata in a veteran community. But let me God. We are compl- Do I do it? I'm fucking we know we're we're selflessly. We're not going nowhere. I'm not saying Hanoi. Jane was proven correct by any stretch especially at that time. But we all know the Gulf of Tonkin wasn't real and the people who were protesting against it in the how you know fifty eight thousand who died over there in the millions of. I mean why we shouldn't have been on. I'm not I'm not disagree with it. You know Jane Fonda going over to the Hanoi was just the optics were horrible. I mean it was just for the optics were horribly. And she didn't do it half the stuff that you that they claimed it does. She didn't pass on security numbers or anything. I never heard that fuck. I never heard. Then it's just like I literally just saw the couple of pictures of her over there with John McCain was also not a was also not a song bird. I mean there's a lot of stuff that he the people claim he did and he did My issue my issue with her. Is it just it? It is it. Dust It just it. Just didn't look right and when things don't look right people then start going around the curve. You know they look around the bend you know I mean obviously became. You know fat. When we haven't even say the word fashionable bit. I mean I think people had an intrinsic notion that a lot of the ships going back then was bullshit but Gulf of Tonkin. That was kind of early on you. Know obviously you had your vacination to the president and Malcolm X Martin Luther King K kind of later on down the line. But we digress getting getting back to current times here. I want you guys to to also know we've read on the Cunanan's have been saying that this whole thing is cover for mass arrests of people like Tom. Hanks and a bunch of other people who are being arrested for failure. Hold on hold on the only thing I do know I know two things. I know one that a Mexican drug cartel over two hundred members of it very powerful group was arrested last week. Early last week. all over the country and they. I got I don't know what was it. Forty million dollars in cash tons of of of cocaine heroin marijuana and bunch of infecting all in all kinds of shit so that did happen also The FBI just announced yesterday that the Phantom secure communication system that was being used by international criminals It has been dismantled That was something that organized crime used extensively For them only it was. It was a secure. I heard a medication thing. Yeah yeah for them. Only and that. That has been Dismantled so I mean that that's beautiful and it sounds awesome and I'm sure in fucking we'll be awesome but you know I'm not saying I'm not saying that this is I get this. I saw the same list. There's actually have high saw the same lists but again people are taking advantage of the situation right now because you know lawn I mean. They're you know in France whereas lane maxwell bro worth blockages Len Maxwell power. Now that they you know they put a you know. They started putting a police. You know to guard milk at the stores. You come in there. You can only enforce rules. I mean people are just going to be panicky. People panicky creatures. I think you know one of the like I said going back to the virus part of it. We need to you know. One of the things that we need to do is A. We need to be aware that this you know this has a far greater outreach than people give it you know. This isn't the flu. We need to make sure that people are saying. Hey listen this a little bit more serious than the flu. It's a little bit more serious than h one. N One a little bit more. You've officially kind of said this reaction warrants the threat. Because that's been my the reaction we're seeing doesn't want the threat you're saying it does. It does. And because one of the things that's going to happen is if if the curve slows down if the curve slows down then what we've done is we're fine until the the fall when you know. We have colds flu season. What we've done is we kick the ball down the road right now we are. It's like playing hot potato where we're throwing the hot potato down to you. Know down the road when in the fall when we catch the hot potato. Are we going to have a vaccine by then? Maybe we all know. We're we're trying to repurpose drugs now. If we can find a repurpose drug you know that can act as a viral agent to stop this. We're going to be okay. Then are you going to have you know the the people that are anti vaccine? Go all the you know this. Is You know this is not this is just a conspiracy to get people to you know mandatory you know vaccinated vaccines and that's what scares me because again. That's what scares a lot of people bro. Well here's here's one of the things I I'll give you an example a pat. What did you take a tighter test last? I haven't taken it tighter test because invincible impervious human diseases sicknesses and injuries you Greek infidel. You know what I have. You know what I got toast with butter. Sure this Oh inside. Business a little ache and pain right. You know you're going to have You know and you're going to have mechanism was the people aren't going to engage and this is why I say to people. Yeah I understand that why we do certain things but it's the same thing why you have you know. Yeah people drinking or eating. I I got a question for you. This is always kind of haunted. Me Do you eat a tie pod or you know. Do you like chew. It is a dry. You know as a kind of like a remember those. Remember those candies that we had in the eighties and nineties. Where you've been into the middle of them and they had the little the fruit juice she wants to know before you keep. I literally when that tied pot should happen. I haven't I literally reached out to a fucking candy company and I said Let's design a real candy. You can eat. That looks like tide pods. I might be deprived and Machiavellian or whatever but I did it Let me ask you with more supposedly more test coming. I think when people are tested more. Clearly when we're GONNA see more positive results people getting pop for which whatever it is what it is but do you think that is then in. Turn going to necessitate even more of these kind of Lockdown for lack of a better term What do you think well? I think you know if we have if we can get a viral agent that can that can stop the spread. You know at least or suppress it. I think we're going to be okay. What we don't know right now. Is You know once. We don't know the severity of it right now. I think you know on the low end. Because we're literally were soft-peddling. We're you know we're not And people are just you know they're unhygienic as it is to begin with her real. I think I think one of the things you have to you know you have to take a look at it saying it. Listen We we need to. We need to start production of drugs in the US with one of the things that we really need to have a conversation of because again this is a national security issue. Do we do. We have pharmacology. Labs of essential. There's all there. There are one hundred eighty what they consider. Tier One lifesaving drugs guy. I'll give you an example one. Insulin is one of those Nitroglycerine is one of them. Albumin is another one. It's You know the what you give to. If you get shot they do whatever you WANNA call it. A blood coagulant you. You have a POW. Well I mean I'm just fuck with you go ahead and to you know. I'm trying to not break it. Try to break it down You have inhibitors. That's what I wanted to tell you and I forgot in order to heal cue for doing this. So a few two weeks ago. This is how bad things even in our field. This is how we got it wrong. We thought two weeks ago not even two weeks ago. It was nine days ago one of the people that we deal with said that in a CB on a CB inhibitor. It was going to put you at risk for the Corona virus and that's basically You know high blood pressure the the the department of Cardiology came out today and rebuke that. And I'm like that's a nine day so obviously people are. Weren't you know the scientific community is coming together working together and say hey listen we? Are you know they are working on it Part of IT IS I. Think the media we Dr Drew went on Cbs and said Hey you guys are blowing this audit `but proportion and that's something that's something we need to stop. We need to listen to the experts. We need also forget about the you know the. I don't know what you want to call it the the that that this some of this warrants the need and and to understand you've got to trust some of the people that are coming out of this. They're not doing this because they don't you know they don't care about our fellow citizens that's one of the that is one of the things that scares me because you know one of the problems that I've seen is the research that we're doing an and this is going back to to something you know. I want to address the research. We're doing a self funded. If I had you know and eventually I will have the money to do it. Is We want to set up our own lab that we don't share and run these tests. You know twenty four seven I wanna get a whole research crew and that's why we have another meeting with Dr Sheva. I want to run some these toxin tests and this is all. I want to work on but in order to do so. It's an expensive process every mice every mouse that we test is fourteen dollars so and re and then for every mouse we test is one. We had to buy one for fourteen dollars and then we have to buy another mouse. That we don't test on so Katrina. What do they call it? The Control Group. Yeah and and so. That's an proposition and and one of the things that I've said that you know one of the things that I will not do is I won't and this is something that that again. I'm not a big farmer. I'm not a big Pharma Fan. I've had offers from a couple of pharmacy pharmaceutical companies to set up there. But here's my my concern. They steal our intellectual property. And then we're stock. Yeah Yeah I mean one of the compounds that we've mixed We we've had positive you know not just the one we there's a couple of compounds we've we've put together. I think it has real promise to you. Know the people that have been exposed to you know polyethylene toxins ill for example firemen we have. We have one that is is is giving some promising results in. This is three years in that. We've tested this and if we if that is one of our concern so again it's we're not I'm not you know I don't want people to say you know when they listen to this. Oh He's just a big Pharma Big farmers kind of in his pocket. No we're so funding the money that we we've done this as our own money because again we publish our results. There's no one that can take credit for the intellectual property that we've developed because that happens all the time in in labs where you know. You're beholden to the Well Yeah that's what I'm saying when you get paying the bill. Yeah exactly equal footing the bill for the tastic period and hence why we always stress. Why it's so important for us to get grassroots funding support. The farms could be good. No one's going to dictate our script. Here this is going to be to the day we die. You will not silence this message so whatever you guys can do is always sport the Georgia George. How can people find you? We're going to close out by telling everybody. Hey go to the conspiracy. Farm DOT COM and Click on and support. The farm by buying from our sponsors are great sponsors over there and then also. How can people find you? Listen to you. You've got your own podcast radio show. I'm I'm on that Radio Syndicate. You can look that up on on facebook and we do want. I'm actually going You know you gave me a good idea the last time I mean you talk. I'm going to start a Another page just for the the the toxins that were working on screen great. Well here's one of the one of the problems that we had a lot of the that we've published and I hate to say this. We've shared it with some academics and we have a panel that we use. I mean every week I talked to doctors by physicists and again I got this is one of the reasons why we got invited to the conference in with Dr Kennedy. Now I'm sorry with your doctor. They'll be trained. And and Dr Wakefield is what we have said. What our premises Ben. And we've we again. We had another Biophysicist from that. Is that what we're saying to people? As the reason you're having paradoxical effects of vaccines are adverse reactions is because you you already have the Antigen present and there are people that have finally will have gone down that we have to change the path which is when penicillin came out. You didn't Attack Penicillin. You didn't say penicillin all my God penicillin. It's the devil's Devil's brew. Now would you said is. Who'S THE PEOPLE ALLERGIC TO PENICILLIN? Let's work on those and that's what we're saying vaccines for the most part for ninety five ninety eight it whatever that number is there safe and effective. Let's find the people that it's not safe and effective for him with test. That's that's fine those people and that kind of helps out and get your title and if you really you know if you get a tighter test that tells you you know you're immune properties I would also suggest a if you're into if you really want to know where you stand genetically taken. A it's called human left Kasai Antigen test. Which is the one that's given for people that are doing transplants? Not Twenty three and me say Oh my God I swear without now you now with now with the no whole thing. We're doing now. You can go up. You can get the cotton swab. They're calling drive through task at the cotton. Swab right in your mouth. Got The whole nine but hopefully you just you you you. You said that we're two Tom Brady Buccaneers Jersey rate. But I again. You know if you if you're going to be informed if you want to be informed take those tests and you know where you're at genetically the people that and this is something. I'm GonNa say this and this is going to be painful for me to say it and I'm sorry I'm saying this but this is very important. If you have rheumatoid arthritis you are very susceptible to at corona the corona virus Because one of the things that just came out. And you can google this. And there's numerous stories The inflammation factor acts with the same properties. And you people rheumatoid arthritis already have a compromised immune system You'RE GONNA have some issues you're going to Ha- and I'm sorry take precautions. Do you know the more you know knowing. That's that's why you're here. Yeah I mean that is one of the things that they've they've seen You know some of the doctors have seen is that people with rheumatoid arthritis have already have a compromised. Immune System They're going to be again. They're they're going to be They're gonNA have issues For so so we've got enclosing. We've got economic crisis. Probably coming on our. Don't say probably champ. Let's keep it one hundred with our people's it's happening now it's happening it's happening. We've got potential Prepare for scenes coming because by God. We've got to keep the restaurant's open. You've gotTa have a vaccine so we've got a lot of crazy shit coming. George we want to thank you for joining us. thank you for enlightening us in our listeners. Jeffrey do you have anything else to say before we close out dome and it's I mean again for us now that we're kind of hunker down man with some of my gigs. I'm literally working from home so quarantining etc. We're going to be pumping out all kind of content here in the next week at Joseph p Farrell Dr Joseph P Farrell Oxford scholar. Coming on to break down some Economic Aspect of it we have James Corbett from the Colbert report. Coming on next week Please Ladies and gentlemen smack the people in the head who are licking toilet seats. Please support the farm report the show piece and all them. Kinda love George Man. Thank you so much man. Always great to have you on. You're definitely going to be a frequent guest in what we're seeing is going to be a pretty Is Not going away anytime soon. So yeah and I want to close the the last thing I want to thank you guys for coming on in just understand this as as somebody that's doing research. I'm trying to find a compound to say people from certain toxins. I'm not doing this just for you know just to to you know we're we're sooner or later we're going to find one. I mean we You know whether it's today tomorrow down the road. We're going to find a couple of compounds that is is going to help people so understand their people on your side. No for sure believe it or not I mean you know. I don't want my fellow citizens to die. I mean Andrew. Someone who's heard you go from our first episode of Brenda's running everything and there's not gonNA put words in your mouth but you know we're we're talking about this link between autism but vaccines and other ailments. You have said as you've gone to your mouse studies. There's certain almost Like you said I guess basically genetic words showing up some people in it's not showing up and others so as as you know in in Goodbye. I pray for your safety. Well Bro. Because you're with the information that we're all kind of providing especially when you get into the pathological aspect of it is Can Be Dangerous. And we've seen what happened to people who have gone down this path and kind of put a dent in a some of some of the official overlord dope man's pockets. It's my my goal is to again I- sooner or later we're gonNA find later. We're going to come up with a breakthrough that's going to say you know. This is what is right. This is how we can fight toxins and you know so I appreciate all the love man absolutely. Thank you jeff and join us soon again here on the farm because as Jeff Jeff said we're working from home of Corinthian baby peace and other kind of loves stay tuned. We'll always be more.

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Jo James on Comedians Interviewing Musicians

Comedians Interviewing Musicians

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Jo James on Comedians Interviewing Musicians

"Comedians interviewing musicians by music firsthand. This is a live streaming. Podcast on Youtube where we talk with bad ass musicians. You're listening to season five episode. Seventy recorded on January fifteen th two thousand nine hundred nineteen live from Waterloo sparkling water headquarters in Austin Texas hosts Becky. Joe Neal Zach are musical. Guest is Joe James. Before we jump into the show. We want you to know about our community where you can get exclusive access to content merge your own spotlight on the show and more for as little as one dollar a month our community of patrons make it possible for us to showcase local artists sign up at CI MP Dot live that C. I. MP Dot Line Thank you for supporting local live music and remember. Give the PODCAST. A five star rating every rating helps these artists get discovered by new fans thanks to Waterloo for having us. This is incredible. This is great. This is a pretty sick space very. Yeah very modern. I will say I'm incredibly tempted to pop. All of these balloons. Yeah just for some reason I want to the first thing he said when he walked him as he wanted to take a Roman candle it would just be like. I don't know I like popping balloons. It's fun yeah I mean. There's like a whole portion of the Internet for that. Is there yes? I have to look into that. Well it's weird. It gets weird. I mean. Well it's wouldn't be allowed on Tumbler if that's what it is a whole. It's a whole thing. Yeah I would like to again. Thank you for having us. This is incredible and also we have a bunch of sponsors here with a bunch of friends who are drinking nine banded and five one too many whiskey and five hundred Tequila had some Also Hobson grains is here. This is pretty. We have a hodgepodge liquor showdown. Yeah no this is great. I'm going to get hammered. It's going to be fun. That's what I'm planning on planning on it. Would you like to introduce our musical guests with evenings? Act Yes everybody. Put your hands together for the talented Joe J. Thank y'all can't leave you. Can I say one for you as A to a? Let's see I don't play those. No that do back door without the two. No good back to don't don't buy yes can't stand assist. Turns OUT WE COULD GO wrong? You could walk. Just say that then bad if you check similar to me Don't don't don't don't you're everything. Don't everything out everything I'm not. You're everything you're everything I'd be I don't give it give it up for judge. James thank you thank you thank you so much to our studio audience. Who came out tonight? Also to our patrons who we owe everything to Obviously for a limited time only this month if you sign up for music fans patron for as little as a dollar a month. We'll send you a T shirt to shirt and a bunch of like. I'm assuming like fun. Emails Dog Scott here dog on water. The dog needs a Dedom- that's not this. Yeah well dogs. Do Dog does only fancy dogs. Come to first hand home again thing. God I I thought we'd start off asking a fan girly questions and I googled. The most common fan grow asked of the dudes from one direction. But that would be a good start. Okay most of them were tailoring to find us. You just made a comparison there. I I I was GONNA come on well. I should have done just as are you there. We go also hate us. All of them. Wish they could pull off the hat Okay so these are some of the questions these are like. Some of them are pretty cute but some of them are really sad okay. Are you the big spoon of the Little Spin? The big spooner. Yeah I would say the big spoon fair your wife's not. She's well probably the big. She's always it's hot. Get away from me okay. What's on your sex playlist? That was really one of these girls would be like one of your songs is on your sex playlist. Oh It's just your oh my whole myself. Yeah dishonest man like any temptations. Any motown among. That's that's that's that's a mood town. All one direction. I'll I'll wonder of Justin bieber exactly one slutty song. The one guy from one direction did when he disbanded. I don't yeah I'm I'm unaware I'm GONNA pretend okay. What do you wear to bed? Nothing no bet. That's what Harry Styles said to see twinning even harder than what's on your like Netflix. And chill what are you binging or binging? Oh I just started this weird show called the Santa Clara Rita Diet. Oh No it's so cool. I just started it. So you're just spoil the point of okay. It's in the first episode. She eats people No I don't know anything with drew. Barrymore in like sucker for that she likes feels like she's the only person I will watch instagram story through even if she's selling stupid shit look cute. She looks dammit so human okay. What is on your bedside table right? Now on my. I don't have a bedside table. What's going on so chic where you sit in your room? I said my phone I try to leave it on the ground so I don't you know okay that makes sense. He's a better okay. Have these rules like snow phone at the dinner table? No foam before bed. No phones at concerts. That's awful. Yeah I don't I don't understand that okay. I do snap like two pitchers get okay. I'm here you can't be that. Assets flooding like everyone's feed with blown out music from the Florida throwback to loud as delays. Drunk people. Around you Vanessa and carly fighting next year carly genre of music. That's playing gone now. Not Fair okay. That's fair those are the questions. Honestly the best part about that was knowing y'all with the. I'm sorry I should have picked a better boy band. I couldn't think of a better like fan girl. We would have made a made fun of to ask the dumbest questions. But that's fair. You recently just got back from California. Yeah what were you doing down there just being a beach. Bum Don just getting. I played Springboard fest which was absolutely amazing So I went down there for a couple days and and did that which was fantastic. Loved every second even though it was absolutely tiring tiring ingrate so weird Wanda Combo. Just like Rodney all the weird stuff now and your from your you and your wife moved to Austin Together Are you both from California California? Okay sick what okay. I mean. It's like everyone's transplant. Austin the Californians coming in. How do you respond when people like think to be like not know your California until he makes them like stupid joke? Chastising Joe James Originally from southern California right fucked it up. I'm sorry guys. It's like the that show next. We're like I'm ZAC Brooks and from Austin Texas on this show next. I wouldn't say on next you get out of the bus. And you're all energetic by next and I like puzzles one weird thing about you. They give you one thing to say. Yeah I. I've got a toe somewhere. You don't want to know where it is good. What next lease have you seen the gay ones? Those are really good. You should get on Youtube and look up the gay next because they are so much meaner. Is that a band. It's our band name now jokes on y'all this is about to be a gay gay next team. I couldn't name now shit okay. So what's the Big Difference? Between California and Austin Music Wise like making music and performing music. Now you don't get paid in California Oh sure no no. I think the community is a lot tighter. That's what I realized that coming from California and I had my buddies and everything but it seems like everybody's super supportive here for obviously the live music which that's why I moved here is going to dive into that world. So yeah with that. There's a huge difference with a difference with the live music. Heat from here to la today by just kidding did you. You made music in California before moving obviously like when did you start making music when I was like eight years old? My Dad is a bass player and so that was like the first instrument I gravitated towards his base. Obviously wanted to be like my dad so picked up bass at eight which was way too big for yeah But I tried my best and then I started playing drums that I would say thirteen is when I started playing guitar. And that's when I started writing songs. When was your first like show? Did you buy like a house? Show the talent show. Well I would say my first. My first time playing in front of people age fourteen on drums. I play drums for the worship team. Okay S. Churchmen to yes. I was also in church band. Shot the name of our church band is next watching this. Our data was like oh I just got into a band called gay nags. It's a church van now and we're doing old school traditional death. It's all with the share auto tune vocals like that. I'm all we're doing. Our grade is my God auto tune. Lord. I lift your name on high tea. Let's do it that's good. That's going to go over very well. I'm sorry grandma your apologize your debt. I'm sorry agree above. Problem is okay to my parents. I don't care. I'll being whatever band. I want to call him after. Yeah Gay Next Generation. Yeah I don't know building our brand already and we haven't even had just so you're like your dog dad. Oh yes I am I just keep forgetting. There's a dockyard. It just makes me happy. Every time I hear is little feet peeking from behind the couch but he just going to take the dog for the rest of the Hobo. Your Dog's name is Lenin. Which is amazing. That's my nephew's named as soon as I saw that I was like to love nugget named Lenin. I do tell us about. Your dog tells me Dad Your Dad and also your dog. My Dad's mad at me right now. now my dog is wonderful. He's he's a German shepherd. Chocolate lab mix so common chocolate shepherd. Kids just like the cutest thing. He's so funny does he do like what's what's the most ridiculous thing he's done lately the most ridiculous things done. I'll tell you some cute things that he does flips over and I showed you a picture of flips over on his back and like has this funny little seal teeth Yeah Smile. Just look up at you and it's outing. I'M GONNA cry the first artist WHO's cried. I'm music percent. That's not mere Zach. Let's okay wait if your dog was a member of your band though or like maybe on your production team they'd like your manager. Type Person I would say. The drummer are high person. Because he is he's got to run the thing in bark and be like. Are You guys looking at my dad? That's cute seem fair. Do you want to sing another song? I know I'm Outta here. Tear up the dog instead. Ladies and Gentlemen Song is is off my up coming. Ep which I actually. But it's not available until November ninth. Sorry but I'll be playing at Saxon pub November ninth This is the new single off of it. This one's called midnight dealing Hum Place to pay. Jeez don't win some so small. What do on this bring a. We're Mama asked him. Why do you do it this way but I don't have a day New Dad Wayne haven't seen a certain day hours right. I will never be a wish. Me My Daddy S Godoi this way. But I don't young men. Yeah Studio Audience. Y'All can get up anytime you want to make yourself a little cocktail. It's very everyone should be drinking heavily. Alcohol comfortable make me feel comfortable. Yes Joe Everyone. Everyone would be drinking our time of need in the formation of our new band. We've already killed one of the bottles of nine bandits body Al for that one. That's good even though. I'm sure it's probably just sack. It's we all pitched in we. All it's true we're all we're all in this together. There are no small parts. Drunk people only wimpy drinkers. Okay that was my mother would have said to me. That's problematic in my own. I should prophesied mound. Okay Brenda would like to know. What is your favorite perk of being an artist? Playing in a music festival hers would be not having us porta-pottys or having to pay twelve dollars for a bud light Brinda exact. Same THE PERKS. I think shorter sets are nice. I mean can you can. I mean I like playing long. It's too but the energy from shorter said you know I'm just really given it and the audience I mean there's always like a huge built in audience obviously is a bunch of bands and like that would be one of the perks and the cocaine is so no cocaine. Sorry debt the drugs wife. We'll have no jokes. I agree I agree with the same thing if you get if you can get like. I've done a couple of festivals. Just doing like five minutes of comedy and then. I just get artists past and then I walk around in places that are probably shouldn't be in and I tell people I'm diplo tell everybody nice and they go. They don't Google and they just go. Yeah probably looks like him. I just say I'm Kendrick. Lamar where's the cocaine bed? And where's the Joe Yet? It's always Mike. I've been going to festivals all wrong. Shit that's the problem until we dip blood. I'm going to start doing that. And maybe that'll word people don't know what to blow. Looks like for some reason? I don't know if he's a girl you could be. Anybody could be diplo. Yeah I'd say about like what's her name like like iggy Azalea. No one actually like pays attention to her career. I couldn't be like yeah but no one actually gives us about her career so long. Could it be a guy it could be? Maybe you're out of drag. No one knows who knows also wears the cocaine. Same question follow up. I don't know how tangled myself. The question Brenda Brenda. We love you. So you're a Germaphobe Y- self-proclaimed senator. Really well I just don't. I'm using my own mike tonight. Wow that's super normal though normal singers. Get right up on the Mike and kind of you know. Kiss the Mike Little Bit. And I'm touching this Mike with my lips right now. I do it all the time. Yeah your mic. No absolutely not. I'm Kinda the opposite of a Germaphobe. Really I know. There's germs everywhere. You can't avoid them you just can't. That's how I feel like I. The other night I went I went to the bathroom that went to the bathroom. I bromide drink with me my but he was like do. You can't bring your drink to the bathroom was like. Oh but I can bring my mouth to the bathroom the bear. It's yeah it's just a whole that's gonNA whereas like my girlfriend's ring during the bathroom so we don't get drugs. He was like dude. There's a bunch of poop. Poop particles in there whole world is pook part. I'm sorry to break the news folks but the whole world is food particles. It's true I like people. Who have their toothbrushes like in their bathrooms? That are near the that that's got a range. I read that it has arrived. Yeah Yeah Well. Who has foot bathroom? You know. Rich people who don't have to rush covers them. Maybe I think germs are good for you. Where's this going sorry? I forgot continue into particles. That really. Sorry I'm about Germaphobe relate trigger tiger tiger tiger. Yeah now my face allred now. Now now this is bad. Okay so I was Gonna ask you like the worst bathroom. You've ever been in an Austin venue but now it just feels mean. I don't I couldn't answer. I avoid them or do you avoid most public restrooms. If I can have you ever okay hold on. I'm not like a Super Germaphobe. Let me ask this hosts you're making be is after we're done here. I'm going to greet everybody. I gotTa go put my gloves on. Yeah it's not like that greeting shirt after. Have you ever? Have you ever changed the schedule of your day to go home and poop have yet all right all right bubble boy? That's all I wanted to ask. That's all I want that. How many times have you change the schedule of? I don't WANNA ask. Yeah we'll go poop at the closest starbucks. Don't think I want and not order. Where's the Waterloo restroom? I'm GONNA blow that up when I'm so sorry I'll do it. There are friends. I've got to wait till they feed me I but this way faces so hot right now. I I was going to ask a question about your tour festival hacks but it seems just completely off. Do you have any hacks for people that don't WanNa change their days to poop and home? That doesn't make any okay. You were and go to festivals. Do you have any hacks for the people at home for those said events? There's no blood in my brain right now. I can't hacks yeah stay hydrated stay hydrated at Waterloo sparkling with Waterloo sparkling water. You beautiful still water. Yeah everyone has a water. Still hydrates you if you mix it with whiskey. That's the way science works. It's sort of how science works. Sure we just cut into like five minutes of how the science of okay now. This is terrible. Okay you also recently had a birthday to do anything fun for your birthday. I'm no no I know stayed inside with my rubber gloves on and should not going out. I've really did just like stay at home and chill out with my wife and my dog and watch netflix musician. I'm out all the time. So yeah when it's my birthday and you know that's that's the tree to stay home and just make sense. One of those hoodies also turns until they get sleep tent the worst rockstar in the world. I went out and partied from all it was crazy. I proved it loudly. Booed Public O'Kane rain into flow twice. Iggy both the man and it's very confusing fair. I is anyone here. Familiar with like the Asmar shit like the super satisfying videos of people sort on the level of the popping balloons sort of on the popping balloons. So thanks for that. Yeah this is such a great one. There are a lot of super satisfying. Sounds that I think come onto liberation people stick by the I was going to ask you to give you like an option between A or B. And you're to tell me which one is the most satisfying okay? Is Anyone talking about? People may yes. Thank you because I yeah. My instagram algorithm is just like drag queens and people tapping their nails on shed. It's very weird. Okay so what sounds better to you to guitar the tuning of a piano. Ooh I don't think I've ever heard. Pm Me Neither. I mean there's like a person that comes into rich guitar yeah for me. I mean we have heard a piano too but I don't remember but yeah I would say this seems like a whole job. Yeah Yeah I think so. No thank you. There's an APP for that yet. So it's not a thing. Okay keyboard queuing get a keyboard. Come on garage band okay. Do you appreciate the sounds of fans singing along or like a good acoustic setting like would you rather like be able to hear all your fans singing your song with you or would you rather be able to hear yourself. Really really brilliant. I mean both. Can I say both girl? It's your show. Okay do Y- I would say both I mean I love both is pretty satisfying. I gotTA figure at that. Venue that sounds good from this angle but also on the other side like. That's yeah is there has been a time where like like a clap starts and they're like slightly off. Oh Yeah you want to happen. But you have to stop church actually. Yes those folks have no rhythm especially the white folks are white folks but yeah no. I went to my first black church. Funeral is like no. I refuse to go to any other kind of funeral at this point now. The game was strong as hell and they all sing the house down. It was everybody's concert that day. Everybody it was the greatest. Go to A. Don't don't go black funeral. Don't go if you're not invited now. You can look. It doesn't matter. Don't go that way it's fine. You said nothing okay. Do you prefer the Swish of a guitar? Strap or the perfect Mike Adjustment. Wait hold on. That's the thing I'm I'm intercepting this. The Swish of Guitar. Like the good field. Like when it goes on perfectly and it like sits right and you say that's a sound number one it is because it goes right over. Your was the second one that good Mike adjustment like when he like also not to drive. Now it's like I feel like I'm justifying a fantasy or something. It feels great. When you like? Pop falls right into the thing that reps and say i. I'd never heard the making but I would say that the Shug of like when you play your aunt in like that satisfy yes well that was on here so. I'm you also wrote that down okay. Do you prefer like the zipping of like Like a like a soft guitar case or like the clicking of a hard guitar case Ben was like I would say I would say a hard case mostly shadow to Austin vintage guitars. Grigny pop those open and then you look at those shows on like that satisfying expensive but very satisfied. I also love like a really beautiful guitar case. It looks Super Fancy. And then you open it up. And it's like crushed purple velvet the Jackson. It's like beautiful. Leather couch cartoonist couches. Out of exactly they have like the tweed cases and then you open them up and it's like read those like making music but make fashion and just like a little bit. Okay clapping cheering and singing. Would you like rather people like Longest like well not that but no just kidding. I'll say both I like both. He's put the double the last one I have is my kind of my favorite. Would you prefer the sounds of a quiet tour bus or a tour bus party of quiet tour bus? You're involved in the tour bus party and saying you're trying to sleep okay. We'll have to sleep eventually. Yeah I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say the quiet one and it's like I'm murder them all. You're playing on stage. You have that amp and symbols behind you and you WANNA get a new tour bus and just shut the hell up That's fair so that one also tour buses completely boo particles. Everything no yes. All covered number one rule. No pooping on the bus. Why does Ben Know that too? Is that a real thing on the bus. I believe you on the bus on this buzz. I just told you not to Wander. Wait. Where's the kicked out of our brand new Christian band? We just started going to get kicked out before you even sit on the buzz on the bus. Yeah we know musician. Take time out of your day to go back to the bus to poop. Choose that we'd all get on the bus. And it's like yeah. Oh yeah has met suit. We'd terrible calcium. That's fair. Did you hear a couple more songs. Pupa segue thank you so much. Give it up for Joe James Boss see see what he wealthiest when I'm going to ask thrown a match one. It was with pros. Think of the better out there. She ran away she does about what is winging Hispanic This one is a brand new and this one is off the new EP. It's black and my heart. God Big Sky. Your kids brought some me me your You're checking Shannon keys. Dabble Sound You hunting strategy but something sip boom. You're wrong burnt. Ah Ah you bet. Thank you Waterloo who? Oh my gosh. It's been a really thought it was fun. It's been really fun. Do you want to do some weird? Would you rather questions? Amen surprise you get a this. Is the sound of your way you know what file? We're traveling there. It is for the PODCAST. I just took a step. Thank you for tonight. Banded and Joe James Everybody Tucker Waterloo. I can't forget what the Water Woo fun fact. I spilled having that shot into the cup underneath the shot I was holding an end. Nice so I decided you do bom it right or according to Jordan. When we're volunteers everyone in the Internet should see doug far cat vomit. Three People Nancy I. What is that a thing? It's a big dog farts and the cat can't handle it and it goes up and it's okay so dog farts and makes a cat throw out. Yeah and that's the greatest thing I've ever heard right. That's nominal like. We should just cancel this. Podcast altogether premium content. We should put a link. Put a link Jordan Sir typing away. We'RE GONNA CLUBS OUT WITH. A LITTLE. Woody rather game. Zack universe give. All right was the one I wanted to read. Oh Okay this. This is a good one whereas it okay. Yeah would you. Would you rather get a tattoo of your own lyrics? Or where shirt with your own face on it every day shirt with my own face instead of getting a tattoo of your own lyrics. Yeah you could put that anywhere. I duNno I see sack doesn't have a whole lot of space left as good promotion name under it and be like with the face but okay but you can pick any lyrics you know surely my own. Yeah but surely some of them have to mean something special. Just gave you my answer. You're trying to persuade me the other day getting your lyrics tattooed on his no. Maybe says I have. I have an insanely amount of dum DUM TATTOOS CHEESE. It right here on my arm a literal. I WanNa see where is it? I am cheese. It's in my backpack. Actually do receivable bag pretty. Do you have any Tattoo Tattoo? I don't know if you what's your. What's your dumbest set yet? So me and my cousin started this parody band. It's like a redneck. Type thing dangle dogs Ono and so one night sure that's how it always happens. We got a tattoo that says dangle and it has a dog and actual dog with like a attached in a bakery. Yes I love that. Show everybody after On right here I have the pigeon lady from home alone to own up. That's a bad tattoo on cats soul tattooed on him down here but yeah I do I do. Thanks stick with areas. Okay so would you would you? This is not the most gifted lyricists in the world and the most gifted guitar player nurses them like that. Why get the royalty? Yeah Boom Bingo Bingo Bango next question. Would you rather play a show super drunk or super tired? Superdrug are super tired Sorry Super Drunk I would I would say I would say super tired because I've done that before. And it's pretty well never have been super drunk on stage so their time we get another word. That's fair I feel like being super tired at a certain point feels superdrug. Yeah sure just like but also playing to an audience. That's your job is to respond to them and their energy kind of a little right. Now when you're drunk. Oh No it's like you know fender twin and you get up there and set rocking out and then fall over right. Yeah that's that's diplo higher demand. Cocaine Talk I felt diplo and I need go gain. That's fair play for you. This is entirely not even cute in my. Would you rather have a sex tape of yours leaked? Jeez or would you rather have a member of your immediate family have a sex tape that leaked the second one second one. I wouldn't want my other. My wife Zelda reserved so you can't I feel like that's the thing is like you're going to get your family forever or you just going to be the one that's like I understood. And do you know who out of your immediate family would be the most and I'm not gonNA say they know who they are there. You GO JOE SISTER. No no no please God. No not my sister's see. How likely do you want it now? It's doesn't make sense now. Well damnit that's fair. Would you like to tell everyone where you're going to be in the next couple of days? Working me follow you. How do we could find me on Joe? James Music Dot Com J. O. J. M. E. S. dot com. And I WANNA promote one of our biggest show. We're having Ep released show February ninth. That Saxon pub at ten o'clock and come out to that one is going to be great. I'm GonNa to have some special guests there. I'm Dave share Playing Guitar and tomorrow Mak Tamarack from Miss McIntosh Daddy's she's going to be there rock and roll and so yeah it's going to be a great night so come on out to it. It's going to be fun again. Yes Zach what. He didn't meet during this week recovering Now on Friday. I'll be doing. Stand up comedy at shed barbershop. Ooh Yeah Fun. Time Eight Which one is the one that no visits? Listen to one. It's the one this one or one is closest to this one. A that's fair. Just look it up. 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Morning Sex & Return of the Ex

Sex With Emily

39:16 min | 2 years ago

Morning Sex & Return of the Ex

"Thanks for listening to sex with Emily today show of talking about the good ole wakened bone. Jamie made me say that I would not say waken bone. What I'm trying to say is it's morning, sex morning sex for clarification and hacks on all positions to make them greats. Some sex positions. Need some mixing up? We got your hacks grocer taking your calls, duh. We always do that. Topics include a blast from boyfriends past how to get past the nerves of dating and old XM wondering what the sex will be like you're stuck in a sexist marriage is okay to venture outside of it. Even though you live at home with the kids and even a great sex life over twenty years. But now your partner wants to try group sex where do you start all this more? Thanks for listening. So how often has happened to you? You just got done with a sweaty hot round sacks. And now you've got to clean up. So what do you use? Like where do you go, especially if it's really messy drippy? I mean you know what happens. 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Subscribe, wherever you listen to the show on I tunes Spotify Google play out radio. God, there's only place. Let's listen to podcast. Now an offense on enough we're on Sirius XM radio stars channel one. Oh, nine Monday through Friday, five to seven PM Pacific, which has been a blast if you want a free thirty day trial, go to sex them dot com slash as XM amber. You guys can so call us, we don't care call us. Triple eight nine four seven eight two seven seven we were there, five days a week as always falls on all social media at sex with Emily, and happy masturbation month. We are doing contests all month long. So all you gotta do is this Email me feedback. It's sex with, Emily com. Subject line masturbation routine. Tell us how you're going to. Switch up your masturbation routine, and how you think it's going to improve your sex life, this month, because I promise you it will do just one thing different will improve your sex slave overall, and you have to may thirty first for a super special sexy sixty prize, you know, we're going to be given away some good ones until she meteorology contests. Or check us out at Secondly everywhere. Okay. Guys, hope you enjoy the show. I have some tips to make sex a little bit easier to maybe kind of inspired. You guys do to have more sex and, and because I'm gonna be honest, if you with somebody for awhile, and even if with you're God himself, sometimes you just forget, sex slips off the raider. You want to get back to sex, it doesn't happen. But there's been a lot of good reasons a lot of research, and I know this to be true that there's that morning sex for the win. Okay. A lot of people kind of think, you know, we don't have enough time where we're not gonna, you know, we just too tired in the morning. Or people often say, we don't have time for sex, and I save set your alarm ten minutes earlier or forty minutes earlier, because women take between twenty and forty minutes orgasm and men take between I challenge the what do you think twenty to forty twenty to forty because there's like certain touches that they're probably not getting. Right. We could speed that up in no time if, if people if everybody on the planet listened to this show, you would understand how the reason that's happening is because a lot of women have been known to them and their partners or end or either one that they require some warm-up touching and foreplay some cla. Some, some clitoral action. Activate the Clint do all that stuff. So that doesn't happen. It's going to take a lot longer. Yes. So that's a good point. There's been a lot of studies lately about morning. Everything morning routines. I'm actually reading this book right now, has anyone done this, you can call in if you'd like it's called the morning miracle, I'm all for new try new things. I've tried everything. And this think stick, you know, I think it's like every self help or whatever you try and your life routines that I've been meditating for twenty years, but I'm always into learning new ways to do it. So this morning miracle you like state, it's about waking up. This is the only problem before eight AM every day, I think it just the point of getting things done in the morning before you do stuff when there's like six things like meditate write in your journal, like six things, and it's pretty cool, and I've tried it for few days. So I'm gonna fill you all in on it. So it makes sense it having sex in the morning can really alter your day like it. Can it can give you a beep for the rest of the day having sex in the morning releases? Oxytocin also, which is known as the cuddle. Hormone and that simply just makes you feel more connected to your partner. And then that feeling of having connected with your partner stays through throughout the day, it's kind of an easy fix like if you think about it. If you've been feeling disconnected which is very common we mistake connection with our partner for we think we need more intercourse that we need more touching. But it's, it's all it's all too. It's all one thing in the sense of you could just find ways to connect, whether it's the morning or night, or knock out, some even if you can't have the orgasm Yuka both mutually masturbate in the morning, but having that, that will connect you to so, and then, when you I think what happens is you forget that you're not connect. You just feel bad. Like, I, I know this happens a lot. This is like I friends called me, and I have to remind them this like up. So Madam husband or feel like things are so bad. I'm like what was time? You had sex, though. You're right. It's been like two weeks or it's been a week. And then they go we had sex, I feel so much better. So we know a lot of people call us every night at triple eight, nine four seven eight two seven seven and. There's a lot of things going on in their life. Like, I think it sex. I think it's up. But when you really make the effort that I guarantee you if you're like a mad at my partner, I haven't felt like it. But if you decide to set the alarm, a few minutes earlier, even tomorrow morning and have sex, maybe do it Sunday to do it a few days in a row. See how it feels having morning sex morning. Orgasms Jamie likes to masturbate in the morning and not get out at night, and do both. That's good, good for sleep to. I'm not going to knock it. When you knock it off, when you knock it out anyone. But I'm just saying this might be a an incentive. And I think also the other things a lot of you delay sect. You think I will do it after we go out on our date will do it for dinner. But then there's pressure to eat a big meal and drinking you, and then you're like Oklahoma tonight's our date night. We should have sex if you already did everything in the morning with this book says and everything else in life says get it done in the morning workouts there, we say work in the morning because if you delay like do it after work like most the time you're not going to get it done. So the same goes for your sex life, if you've been thinking, why are we having sex, if you know that you can wake up earlier, you can do it twenty minutes, and you won't feel that pressure. So this is another benefit for sex, if you get if you do it in the morning and, and I just think that, that it's like there's something about the morning sex, too, and your, your partner on the light shining in your both. Like, you know, it's a switch Dane, you're connected, you can even have spooning sex is really easy to have in the morning. It's kind of cuddle up to your partner. I love morning oral. Random acts of morning oral. Yes. We gonna do a random acts of teaser. But ranting as acts of morning oral could be like a sub t shirt, but yeah. Red Amax morning oral is a great idea, set your own alarm, wouldn't you guess? So when you wake up someone's going down. And you did that. Yeah. I've had that not enough not enough. I've definitely dating profile. Really fan of morning oral I dunno. I would get a lot of responses from people and people, I don't wanna talk. I am kidding. Don't do that. You're dating profile. I'm saw about dating propels. I. I know. But if there was an app where it was, like more. Yes, let's volved people. Exactly. Who like, oh my gosh, talked about sex and her profile which. Yeah, exactly in the USA. Okay. So here's the other thing, you, you guys can also shower together in the morning. I'm telling you is why I love the shower sex like because we know all these ways to hack it to guard a little shower vibe. And, but if you guys are both showering anyway, maybe have kids, because we have people with kids, are like, oh, we kids, come in take shower together. And then the best thing is, here's my favorite best waters. Exposition is you bend over while they enter you from behind. And then you could like you void slipping and falling you could hold onto Waller shower door or put down your rubber mats, or you could also grab your hands. If you're flexible, ankles, give you from falling over, I think people forget to have sex with department. It's fun in the morning. Well, it is. And then you're like you already wake up if you're weighing next to them, you're already in bed too worried, like if you're going to the shower like you said, you're already in the same vicinity. I think we're just also we wake up and we I don't know. We're thinking about the day, we want to get going. We, that's how I am. But I feel like if it becomes a habit, your partner like or at least two times a week you're gonna morning sex. What do you is? It goes. Have you tried morning sexy? You don't like it. You like it what your favorite time of day because? It can be okay at night to it can help you sleep. So we're getting to that in a minute. But call us with anything. Triple eight nine four seven eight seven seven. It says here, you also have an excuse to be lazy. Yes. I have to be like this crazy sex. That's true doesn't have to be like crazy maratho-. And like you know, we're going to do this whole, like swinging from the rafters thing. Like you could just Spooner Doggystyle. Donnie sounds good in the morning to when you just roll on your stomach a, my darkest out in the past been like stomach doggy style. You know, more flat, and I like that. So I don't I can just roll over and do it. Yeah. Yeah. You can still touch yourself. There are alternatives to how you're having sex right now. Just see. No. I don't think the people. It's so true. It's so true. No, you don't get no into hold your your doggy style. The one way there are so many hacks to our arriving sags or alternate ways to alternative ways to, like, even do Doggystyle does not near a four knees hands and knees, bit could be like you lying fighter stomach putting a pillow underneath you. It's so comfortable that way, it is very comfortable. Just have a lot of pills on your bed. Yeah. That the, the, the Doggystyle hack those a lot of ax. And my book as X hot sex has some good positions in there. It keeps you healthy. You guys. Here's a thing, and this is morning sex strengthens, your immune system, and it boosts your levels of Ejei an antibody that protects against infection, orgasm does to like for women lick. It helps us with PMS it's healing for you to have orgasms also all things were saying you're goes for restaurants too. And apparently your partner can last longer testosterone levels are higher in the morning. The penis had a chance to recharge from sleeping. It's wakes up yawning happy. Like I just picture like a PS going. Oh, the morning to interested. Exactly. So, so obviously, they're like, more horny when they got but Paradis Ostro more energy during sex. So maybe less longer in the morning. And I think more people are doing it, then you think for sure. And I think people prefer to make it have sex in the morning. So, and I think that what happens is they forget or they never talk about it or one person doesn't like it. So then they decide for the next ten years or never going to do it, but they don't revisit it. So here's the other challenge run sex when they're alternatives. Most of us are very set in our ways, like we have sex in the same exact way, every single time since we've had sack since the beginning of our sexual history. A lot of people it doesn't change. It doesn't shift like, like I remember talking to a guy and he said to me, you know, I had talked to the girl when I was twenty four. And then, again, when I was, I think I was like thirty five days what I was thirty five and it was interesting because it'd been, like, ten years, but like she gave me a blowjob that guys remember these very specific details. Is she gave me a blowjob then and then she gave me one ten years later, and it was the same exact blowjob like the way her hand moved in the way her mouth, and he goes, and I remembered, it, it was very specific and nothing had been because it was good. It just like I wonder every time she has a penis in Arashi. She does the same thing. And I thought you know, it's. High school. I remember once did a show about high school sex high school sex still happens in the sense of I think that we are doing a lot of the we don't think too, like how can we do differently? How can we like how can we give a blowjob differently? How can we haven't percents position differently? This one that you think you don't like Doggystyle you'd think you don't like. One time because it wasn't great or anything but missionary. But there's like hacksaw Nov it. Yeah. You just change up your angles. I I'm trying to think too, like I guess, because it's I had sex the necks. I, I literally told him because he started like massaging my shoulders and stuff and all this, like you still have the same move. When we first I ever hooked up. Yep. And he was like. But it's a good move work. I mean, to Shay, right. But what else could work and think of all the women were maybe they didn't want to be touched right away? And then he touched their shoulder and then they turned away. But since we don't know how to communicate and say, you know what, not right now I'm not ready to touch yet, but I'm happy to make out with you or I don't know people don't want touch. I and we prematurely touch people, and we have to learn if that happens speak things of that whole thing is like he's probably been doing that forever. Yeah, what happened? Did you talking keep talking? You're good. Got the premature the touching thing. Yeah. I mean, I think that we don't know. But we don't know what I'm trying to tell you is all things. You don't know. I tell you that most of you don't know anything about sex, most people don't and that's okay. And that's why I'm here. But I think when most of us, don't know a damn thing why I'm trying to think of I give like first time blow drives the same. I know I'm probably die. I actually grabbed there was the tickle tickle the pickle yet. What was that goes? I just took that to, to grab some tips because I felt like I was doing it the same way every single time. I knew some tricks because like I've asked my but then I was I was I was taking a little sneak peek at it. And I was like, I really like this. Yeah. And the rations and nice clothes, eighty Alison, awesome would love to be loves eighty and she this book was classic. She wrote it years ago. It was like is a great refresher. Course that give you a wondering what's the max for a blowjob or to hand job, or something, you have to check out this book 'cause I just opened it. And I'd be like I remember when I first got it ten years ago, I started the show or fifteen years ago and I gave my boyfriend blow blowjob, and he's a and I did something, and I've talked to this camera, which tip it was, it was something with the balls or my finger in these at, like, I've been giving him a blow debris or is it? What did you just do? What just nothing? What do you mean? Yeah. I don't know probably told them Brazil. Oh, this thing with the hand and the thumb. But like we again, that's just one example. There's like you know, we, we tell you what the kitchen method for oral like I love. And we also on our website, gazillion tips. 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We're going to talk to Brenda Brenda forty in California, and she's thinking about getting back with her old beef boyfriend Rhonda from fifteen years ago. Oh Brenda, gosh. I need to know every single detail. Thanks for calling eighty high. So I think friends with this guy, but we dated actually more than fifteen years ago. And, you know, we were intimate then and we ended up breaking up because he cheated on me. And when our separate ways, but we stayed somewhat connected, because we have mutual friends, and maybe like in the last year year and a half, we've reconnected as friends, but lately, it's getting flirty again, and we've made out a couple of times, and I'm forty now and he's fifty. And when we did the first time I was in my twenties. Okay. You know and you know my body looks different now. I'm I was always heavy. I'm a little heavier now and he's older too, and I'm just really nervous about being intimate with him again because I, I mean obviously he can see me. I just feel like is he expecting the twenty something year old girl that was with him then, and it was a little more wild and get moved away. I used to. Oh, no. I totally get Brandon not. Oh, he's fifty. He's in a different place to. He's exactly in the same. He's like he's stopped growing. It's not like he's still thirty five wherever it was forty when you were, you're together fifteen years ago. So it's not like he's whatever he was. You were twenty five thirty. You know, we all changing Grosso that stuff's all you guys are wait. I wanna start where you are now 'cause where you are now is it's been great. You've been made out a few times. And, and how long were you guys together fifteen years ago? Employees about a year. Oh, that's, that's pretty significant. You know, twenty. And you broke up because he cheated and then did you go? Okay. Knew he cheated the of that go down. Did you have to find out or he told you was it? So he started seeing his, his. He had had a long term relationship with another girl, and he had started seeing her off and on. And then I guess it was on, and she called me out of the blue and just started getting to this ridiculous fight with me. And I was pretty much like not gonna have a fight. I at that point, even though I know. But seal your drama, and it was just like good. Good drama. So I, I walked away from the relationship. Okay. And so now you're back in, what have you been married? If you've been in and out of relationships over the years, where do you looking basically against this? What are you looking for now too? So. No, I don't really want like I do kinda want something serious. So they feel like you know, when my forties and stuff, but I don't want to rush into it because we've both been through a lot, and my life is somewhat complicated because of, you know, kids and whatever other things, and he has his own, you know, kid that he's dealing with. So I don't want to rush into anything, but I feel like you know, we're dolts and it's going to happen sooner or later in an unjust nervous about it. Because you're nervous about the actual sex. Yeah, I am I got married and then divorced. And then I did somebody off and on for years. So I mean, I had sex ipad, the relationships with other men and he's been flying. You know, I haven't been uncomfortable with them, but with him. I think I'm uncomfortable because of the fact that, you know, I I'm really scared that he's in his head. He's expecting. Now, telling you I can just tell you that, that he's attracted to your essence of who you are. And he always was, and you guys had that attraction fifteen years ago, and it's still there are. So I say just the best thing you could do. Right now is to get into your body before you seem again. So do semester Bache in some walking around your room, looking in the mirror knowing how sexy and hot, you are. Go out dancing with your friends, get into your women hood. Your sexiness, feel it feel that you're hot sexy self. He's not. I don't know. Any met you. I don't feel like you'd be with a guy who would be a union, look like you're twenty five. Like that's just I think it's you. I don't even think that's I don't know. I don't think you have to worry about that at all Brenda. You are amazing. And I can already tell I can tell by your they're just not looking at you. Like, I don't know how it they're not Brenda. This is a story that you're creating to maybe maybe you really like them. Like sometimes be confused. Like, we put up these roadblocks of all the things that go wrong. And maybe it's excitement. Maybe you actually like him in your frayed that I understand, like where I thought you were going to go with he cheated on me, and that's why we broke up. That's where I thought this conversation was going to go because that was what you told me. But it's more about you're worried about, you know, in your forties. No, he's into you just go. Have some great sex. In fact, our forties are for rocket. We know our bodies. We know it feels good. And he's gonna love the confident Brenda at forty probably much better than the Brennan twenty-five. I know Emily, in my late forties, better than Emily twenty-five. Although I was a good time. I'm way better now. You know what I'm saying? You have a little bit. Yeah. I do have a little bit of a fill conscious not so cut to this, but a little bit of the concern about him still kind of being a player. Well, that's what I'm you know, he he's had his e. Yeah. Like even after that, girl, he, he ended up hooking up with some other girl, and he got her pregnant got married with her got divorced, and it's been jumping around and the only reason they think we kind of gravitated back to each other. Because, you know, we stayed friends through mutual people and it's like every now and then it would hear the comments, there would be like oh, you know, you know, Richard still mentions you and he always brings up the fact that he really screwed up. And you're, you're the one right. Where the one I'll yeah. Yeah. I know those people from the past, I think you don't have to know yet, and it was also at fifty men, they, you know, their third, their third, their estrogen rises testosterone drops, which is kinda like men, become more sense that they've changed a little bit. Not all man. I'm just saying go with an open mind right now. But, but also, forget this stuff in the past, but I want you to be very present. And as very specific questions right now 'cause you also have a lot of time to ways just started. But it's okay to say what air intentions, some character things like what's he look you know, what's he what's he looking for now and just start to find out sooner than later, so you don't spend too much time, you know, but, but be honest and ask questions and find out more about his character. Ask him some of these questions, we were going through earlier. You know, 'cause those are all things that you're, you're like tripping on the stuff that could happen. And we don't know yet until you really get to know him. So I think you just have to get into your body. Have some great sex with him. Have some good talks. And, and then, you know, step, take it slow absolutely take it slow I love take. I think taking it slow does everybody. It's so. Literally, everything when you're hiring, they do the one of the big things in business, right, higher, slowly fire quickly. I think that that's the same goes for relationships. I think we go way too fast into relationships, especially now in your forties. You know what you want you have your life, so to take some time and get to know him, and see it's the mutual friends. That's great. Because you can kind of find out more and just keep your eyes open and have a good time. Let him let him love you up have some great sex. See what happens. Awesome. Okay. So well have a great night. Thanks for calling Brenda. All right. Let's help out Valerie, who is thirty eight and Illinois. And she wants to know if it would be acceptable to have sex outside of her loveless marriage. Hey, Valerie, thanks for calling. Tell me more. Hi, lady high. So I've been married for about ten years old like our eighteen and you know, we, we just kind of like drifted apart. I'm pretty much just over the whole situation. But we live together for financially doesn't make sense to move out and our separate ways. But we very hectic session that, you know, the next, you know, two years, oh, we're gonna do and the stuff that we remain friends, I don't know. You know is like the beginning stages of it. I don't know how if that's actually gonna work out. But, you know, I enjoy my time with him, and we have together, but romantically there's been nothing. Call now for about three years. No enough things. So I'm kind of wondering, like, okay, well, if I'm ever ready to cause I'm kinda working on myself to get myself more confident, so I'm wondering if it would be acceptable for me just to kind of having a one night here in there. Once in a great. While you know, just kinda give myself their pleasure because I don't think I would feel guilty for it because I just don't I'm kind of checked out already. Yeah. I don't think it's I mean, unless you guys have Evan arrangement that it's okay for you to go outside the marriage. I don't think that you should. I think you should it'll be really hard for you to just you think it'd be easy. Well, find someone to have a one night stand, but it's gonna get tricky. And it's not honest either. So if you haven't you got a clearer with him, either in a why are you staying with him? Then for the kids. Well, financially doesn't make sense to we've already separated Wednesday before like early relationship. Flynn our child was a lot younger now. I mean he's in high school. So there's, you know so we're you know she's older. So but I mean, we haven't had discussion of, you know, we go step outside of our marriage. But I already had mentioned to him like, less than whatever you do. That's your business. I don't want I just want to know about it, and respect the home. That's it, basically. And he never read to he kind of client. And so I mean, but I'm just speaking more for myself. I mean I'm not going to go on these dating after anyway, because this world is way too small. And I would hate to have something come out. You know, when it's a discreet, you know, kind of thing. Right. Right. I mean I just I mean, I know you're saying financially, but I feel like I mean, I don't think that you should stay together for finances or for the kid because you're, you're. Pick your daughter. You said your child's are picking up on the distress in the homework. They can feel that mom and dad are romantic or they're not together anymore. I mean, I think that if you feel like you've truly done everything, and it's done. And you don't feel like you, you should start moving out. You should you should end it. You'll be okay. Things work out or go back to therapy, if you haven't, and stick with it and say, you know, let's try this again. But if you are certain this is someone that you never want to have sex with again. You're already over it completely than I don't think it's healthy to stay together and or yeah, I'm not gonna say it's okay to go people do it. They do have sex outside the marriage, but just not healthy. Like I just want you to have the freedom to do that outside to end it or either stay together and work on it or leave and have sex other people. Financial excuse. We all you could make Mark, you know, I think it's an excuse. Oh, no. I don't because. Billy, the financial parts, excuse pulls real, because we can all make our way. I don't know. I'm scrappy job, since I was fourteen the guy can make things happen if I need to, and I believe that you should stay in a situation that is not nurturing. You whole you need it. If you've tried it all, and you know that he's literally district friend and not a lover anymore. And you're already the point where like can I go outside at no, you'll make it work? You've got friends, you probably job, you've loved one, you could make it work, but I think it scary to leave someone after eighteen years, and then just having sexual with someone random will make it more confusing for you. That's what I think, right? I mean, yeah, I know I wanted your insight on that. I mean, we haven't touches other in about three years. Good. Like if anything. Yeah. I don't like I, I don't think that's, that's what I'm concerned about. But I get why you wanna see for someone else. Now, you guys say, we haven't are we going to try again, or we just done with sex. And then if you're done with sex, you could say that I need to sleep, you know, have that conversation, get clear on it, because you're thirty eight year young, I want you to go have some sex. We only sex, so. A lot of problems. I, I was my other child never say. And if he has like issues with being honest about the little things and I just don't have that trust there anymore. You know about it. And I kind of like left I reached my limit. It sounds like it. We just can't get open place right now. I mean, honestly, we have a clause in our in our home, where we have to wait for an amount of time before I don't see I understand. I don't mean it's like a lake a lame. Excuse. It's like it's like it's I think we can get. I understand. So maybe just have one. No. That you've done that have a really hard conversation with him again. But like be like we this is not how I wanna live like we can't do this anymore. We need to figure something out like and then bring up the seeing other people because I don't think that you wanna wait three more years of sex to your kid goes to college. So try talking him again. It sounds like you're done and done. But maybe it'll surprise you who knows. But I'll be here. Let me know what happens. Okay. Thank you for calling. Thanks bye. Valerie. Let's talk to Keith. Forty-six in Georgia says his wife is interested in group sex, and he wants to know your thoughts about it. Hey, hey, Keith. Hey, emily. Love your show, keys. I love your question. Oh my question my question we've been together for twenty four years, and we have a pounding sex life, and we've using pounding sex life. I've never heard that. But it sounds awesome like banging pounding. Okay. Good. Well, it works, but we watch porn and everything, and she, she watches a lot of porn, where with two males and a female and everything. And then she started watching some adult bookstore sex, where of the girls and the guy would go in and then she would have panel a few partners and so forth and. She said to me that, that looked interesting and that was something that maybe you know, she would like to try once and see what it would be like. And I was just thought I picked your brain and see what you thought of that. Okay. We'll keep what tell me what you what you think about it when she first told you that how did you feel? I don't know. I, I can't say I don't know while but. Definitely. Yeah. Oh. Excited a little bit. I don't know why that. But that makes sense twenty four years together. Okay. Well, what I think. He's here's the thing. So it was a group sex with men and women are just a group of men in you. Like what was the her fantasy? Whoa. Of the bookstore thing. It's basically thank all men and me. Okay. What some of the well, here's what I think. Oh, I think that it can work. You guys a major of the twenty four years, you have sounds like you really good communication. But like there's going to have to be some, a lot of talking a lot of feeling before you jump into this because you guys haven't been with anyone else. Correct. In twenty four years. So this will be like a next level thing. So I think you should do some more like role playing around it like maybe you guys were having sex. She could start to explain to you, there some pre-sex four play like, oh I'm picturing us walk into the bookstore right now. And there's three men in the corner, and they all come up from behind or you know, like I think that you should start to, like roll play with her and see how that actually makes you feel. And then if you're like that could be kinda hot to watch her do this. But then you guys have to decide like what, what are the boundaries? I guess she allowed to make out with them is their actual penetration. Would you want? A woman in their Keith is part of you legal. What about having a woman, you know, I think that you get to have a play in this fantasy as well. If you have any fantasies around this, so, like, I think that couples should never jump into like a threesome are group's X to solve the relationship problems. But it sounds like you guys are having still haven't great sex, so that you could be a good can't, you're, you guys could be good candidates for group sex. But I think there's still some more figuring out to do and talking through the scenario. She, she has explained a little bit on some of the rules and everything because and itself that she's come up with that, you know, she will make. The decision on which one, you know that penetrates or stuff like that. And she has, you know what through the fantasy and everything and. Well, I mean, the thing is okay, so that's good. So she's clear, and you want to note like, I how do you, you said it was kind of exciting to you. Okay. I mean you guys get I mean you know, I you never know what's going to happen till you get into that room. And there's three other men and three other penises and they're there you're there. And you know, it's like could be a big move for a couple. But if you, you could also have a safe word you could you could you know, try, it out, make sure that you use protection and see how goes, but make sure that you have an out plan, but I feel like you're not certain yet. So but if you're asking me what I think I think couples can make any like make scenarios work when they're really open and honest, and they discussed the boundaries and all the rules and all that. So I'm not gonna tell you know, but I'm gonna tell you that maybe you just need to have a little bit more talk about it and think about it. Don't just do it to, please her could you said, she brought up all her stuff? But what are you want, like, what's your fancy Keith? Because why don't you get yours? Right. Okay. Well, that's some good advice. And I will have a discussion with our kid. Keith. I'm here for you. Let me now goes I'd love to hear group sex gone. Right. Because often does. Right. All right, guys that help you enjoyed the show. Thank you, all for calling in, and being vulnerable, and sharing your stories, and participating too big part of the show. So thank you all appreciate it. Thanks to amazing team. Can Kristen Michelle producer, Jamie. And Michael was good for you. Email me feedback. It's sex with Emily dot com. I am so excited to let you know you can now hear sex with only live five days a week on Sirius XM radio, you'll find me in stars channel one. 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The origins of Fear in Film

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The origins of Fear in Film

"Aw will contribute to plea Shroud Darkness and Dr Ah Oh my God I saw fantasia the so yeah that saw that was the Selwyn and then moving forward the Catholics had all Saints Day uh-huh even Scary movies too scary to watch the skeleton as was also named all how how all hallows day and that was November the first oh all hallows eve was slowly tuned into Halloween okay me and today the average any ye us six billion dollars spent on Halloween h here in the US yeah it's the second most commercial holiday on single episode this month on Spooky subjects who ran longer recording in the man cave where according in I don't know why he bought US tickets for this so today we're just GonNa give it an origins of horror and horror in film so that's fun fun fun back to the celts they had the Selwyn it was They celebrated that in October I was a tradition from summer to winter on Southwind Dead Wilfredo roam the that's Halloween well I think most of us can agree that were growing up in Australia that we did have Halloween but we know about Halloween Chrome American movies that we saw all the time and am to say we're recording anyway today we're in the world's most haunted house Johnny Rico's House for starship troopers supported breath and they left at offerings to ward off the dead food and drinks they also dressed up as ghosts so the other guys I would like ghost as well eighteen hundreds Halloween in America it was adjusted until the nineteen hundreds of the nineteen fifties with the Irish and some of the English because the the Little Franks does thorough bureau the damned cold the damned yeah of course it would be sexual public holiday in America's I don't know I don't think so actually but it's just one night where everyone just funnier joy so we'll talk a bit about the origins of Halloween Halloween's kind of two or three different traditions When he goes dinosaurs issued token podcast for movies TV shows and pop culture and this week is spooky this monsters checks out the house the costume thing national holiday yeah someone like a national holiday so yeah elected chief we give them author everything he's like and then she comes back and that never happened that was underwriting a lot I had this we'd memory gap inau face where we thought that was a really hilarious line in that episode that turned out not to obey remember how they were about to push very what's your interpretation of horror it's spooky spooky an intense feeling of feel show schick on Disgust Nisa what you call it happened all right so we have horror in film okay what is horror by the way it goes here is really helped us shape our way to what we've got today Yeah so first horror movie pretty much the first horror movie was a French movie called Simpson's Simpson's really on Halloween specials as well yeah they even had the simpsons episode where they explained the first Halloween Caramel gods yes up for code I wrote discuss so it's that feeling of fear and you know how FIA has kind of made us don't tell Halsey because you're afraid of getting burned just as haunted house there was a skeleton and a bat I was floating toward that sounds terrified to me like people have watched it back didn't actually fell to their knees and prayed to be saved please the filmmakers from harmful off the cliff and then chief Wiggham was lack of push her off and he wakes before we washed despised him famous actress Mae clock cold him retarded she was she was the as we had the silent silent era ends and then the universal monsters begin so the universal monsters calls Kalle loubier taste so it's Halloween month halloway inside Halloween we're gonNA divert dominated that shit yeah but I'm pretty sure those big thing between universal in Hamma Hamma Ray made a lot of those kids maybe they couldn't afford it at the time the sorry this office butacular ask guys I I don't much like scary stuff avenue yes the infamous shadow coming up the stairs imagery tall off Frankenstein was it was interesting film I just remember watching that and probably one of the funniest scenes in that whole movie was when those the foreign holy water at this silent film so which was just Music Menor de do de Leon which is also known as the haunted castle who we watched that like a guy who was eleven a ah the Kins and about and it kind of brought into what it is now it's just tricks and then it became tricks and treats yeah it is a Boris Karloff also reprise was brought back for the mummy Boris Karloff light to just sit and stare and the original mommy was a was an interesting film to say the least but had nothing on Celinda stress we had everything that movie we had a giant ape climbing the empire state building getting shot by planes and waiting L. Junior for this judy is founder and he was the head of production at just twenty one many of his coworkers you'll make gear I still you'll sheet so we had one of the first universal was Dracula Nineteen thirty one the simpsons twitter of Mr Beds is shut us player of the year? Yeah Yeah that was a great dracula yeah so often thirty we're going to bring up a lot of them have actually become public domain now so you actually be able to Lee look up on the Internet and watch it as they just on Youtube yeah yeah so ast week's episodes yeah we missed nineteen thirty three's King Kong also you know we had stop motion we had Niger Film. Copyright lower still being perfected other countries could actually make their own films and everything rating system the wheel wild west the Frankenstein story it is all about him trying to get a bride isn't he had to find time to sit down and watch all these ones yeah but I'd just like to say before we continue on talking about it is to remind everyone a lot of these classic horror films the movie is Dr Frankenstein getting married and that's it the Frankenstein yeah just so you know so she obviously didn't lock him but he did a lot for the hero world like you brought he was buying up all the copyright Solos different books back then so universal you steal don't steal by bad and then build go see turned down the role of Frankenstein's for the movie Frankenstein so that was given a bar I saw yeah so we we moved into the film was picking up a bit and we've creatures people pretty much like you make me for family yeah hey stop like the one that kind of trick people thinking Frankenstein's monster it's Franken Frankenstein Yeah then you've got your well it's not forty five we had bride of Frankenstein who which may clock see I mentioned this to you actually it's Frankenstein's monster that's okay you know talking about Frankenstein Frankenstein makes it sound like she's so we kind of glaze over the forties because there wasn't too much like people are just doing some random stuff and then we will boys it's tough world wars yeah what about in previous episodes came to there was actually rules in place of what you could actually make back in films in the United States verses mobile saying the wild west parts of Europe and everyone else I Frankenstein the book was yeah that's the actual original story was made grow you made me so hideous in repulsive loves me I want love make me off yup detail really communists one of the first spooky ghosts spirits haunted house kind of thing so that stuff really hadn't made into messed with in that movie Yes so long the IT's fatal wall we wanted to watch a lot of horror movies prepare these buddies his are on no you can't do that against God it's good good movie yeah Talking Walking Slowly Getting Cook Kidnapping Women and men coming and bathe in the studio billy a little girl playing by river and she liked he's just talking to play just the one extra ones made most of the time they get the help the Kaiser boys from the real bridal for Frank Monster Yeah if it was to guess crazy okay got it everyone yeah actually in freshest mummy the remake and that was Indiana Jones same actually really good yes yes the inspiration domestic coming to fight for everything as we kind of with a really cool trailers okay Ono revel in fear of the body snatchers what are you going to do about it it's hard you have to do other illegal methods still movies so hammer hammer was that British one yup so how howdy copyright work back then I don't know because it could have another country is that was still like the style using makeup effects all that stuff so we've got crater from the black lagoon the infamous creature walking out of the like most of these movies revolve around crater classic title which has been made a few times it also has the haunting of Hill House on Netflix which is an interesting series and if you really watch enough of that series do whatever they want in America exactly what Nick said it's no supernatural stuff was allowed at the time and you would allowed to show he's super slow like this show coming up I don't know what the show was but there was a cover of the forest by the cure like Elsa that so often we started a little towns we also had aliens from outer space because of events like Roswell in for two which is very much like that it was just walking on the screen like staring at things and then the coffin oh Johnson basically look like Lucia wrestler and he couldn't speak very good English neither can I apparently she really did have a tiny waist there yeah she's in movies and they skyrocketed octane fourteen eighty and nineteen eighteen they've had like one hundred thirty in a negative light had all these other films and if you're going to teenage they had to be adults like well adults that's why they had the thirty in line from Addis phase so that's todd bill to go see the infamous three centimeter diamond a waste uh-huh so also one of the pinnacles of out of space films was by Director Ed Wood Hi my chiropractor so car apprecto walked around as the vampire character for the rest of the film with these Cape in front of his face if people don't know Ed was a every two seconds yeah and then we had everything it had zombies it had aliens it had really campy aliens have you gone he's filming he would do one shot and that was it every time I'll never do retakes because it's too expensive yup yup some some fantastic dialogue like he's some chick and I was like man this is a good song but this isn't a good song just come back to your all like that guy what happened the so that was fifty something yeah take inspiration from life so that's yeah and then like movies like they came from outer space the body snatchers mastic film. Well it's I think it's very very inspirational but at the same time they all very very low main- movies your Yeah Vertigo fucking being visionary fate of Ed Wood and different odd random shit happens in that movie that you just like what the fuck veteran inspirational pickup and then titled Coming Sued The Sun Comes up take on like an who found in men and girl wall revelries actual dialogue was probably the dumbest person India's just pointing his gun at ever what else did vertigo rear window psycho so also another funny story about the birds like the leader when he locked her in Israel birds so the look of fear real yeah she's just terrified of these these hundreds of birds in this rube say lots of hidden Gustaf's in like you just watch at the back of each grade and is just a ghost just the estimate that you could say so many hidden stuff amend you just get it and watch it get some friends around get some popcorn and get ready to loft because that is the room before the room was the room Yup yea Alfred you really knew how to get it out there yeah but Alfred Hitchcock success can come down to his wife as well Oh yes who when they come for you the soundtracks why did that because this is hell trailer is pretty much controlled behind the scenes especially when it came to psycho helping with the edits she edited pretty much you know let's kill the lead actress with the plan yet bringing using our electro race good to have it and then had like an all-star cost tawny surgery will I don I I actually look Lisa so plan on from out of spacey's just need it's just the that song slow it down put a famous singer there's so many trailers as dis potatoes that have just got so many covers of like random songs but like Haslemere hills woman skelly plug in house on Haunted Hill the classic Invest Yep no totally about soccer have you seen the Bites Motel yes yeah that's really good yeah than moving into nineteen sixties we have the hitchcock era I say it's one of my favorite areas of horror yeah Oh yeah it was holy shit man that is just if you guys have watch Bates Motel go watch it it's pretty fucking Darpa I've seen the first season stances do not talk about these movie and people didn't I didn't get back home and say all well actually Tequila is fuck off the they didn't have it set back the join these like for instance Bela Lugosi had a heart attack and died three days into production are cool rakoff inside again nope let's talk about our relationships with horror movies yeah okay how about you call luck I said I don't know did I say fan of horror movies like handsome men beating the shit out of the new plan out of malice if you have not seen plan nine from outer space this Halloween guess like she's just every situation that they go into it's just fucked up holy crap Baotou mothery Johnson time especially with lovecraft being probably the next rider that they should really focus on Steven Yeah Stephen King is being actress she was absolutely terrified of booths like in real life as is loud and Alfred Hitchcock was like no no more I love their fake birds yeah hello operator Mossy mafia-type about this movie came out just recently it grosses me out to the point where I can't watch then you're doing a good job yeah and it's there's nothing wrong with them quicker cool that yeah and then they had all those signs at the front of the cinemas and the lack ought plays absolutely under no second I watched them but they're not interested me the point where go out and actively watch them yeah there are some that I particularly like like Alien Ah Mother Mother Stop Mother Gut Tab but actually creepy continue audited the mood trails somewhere in town this is fucked up he's he's got an Internet Korean that pretty much a big no no in the Hollywood sale eh legend legendary director legendary Gut James direct hey madam sign Johnny debt basically this Ktar movies yes yup nick bit of a long history Horo because again my mom was a fan of hitchcock from layer in depth to fucking norman basis during how his mom had a quite an odd relationship he fucking weed yeah that's that's the best heart like odd will never complained about getting more media like as if they just give them the infamous Bela Lugosi Liz walking around just pacey himself lived like the the thing from the Black Lagoon Frankenstein and I used to watch them casually on Sundays will say when I became I think we'll win it became you know you can be mortal Kombat if you wanna be I'd rather see something that actually is tense and actually is minot uncomfortable unnerving and everything but doesn't require the uh-huh it's I'm interested in cosmic Caro Alumni lovecraft and stuff we'll get into that later one day I watched army of darkness before you guys say I'm your darkness is a horror movie to me I thought it was I saw the pressure and everything because that's a scary bit older and everything that's when I started to watch become fans of like Halloween and background became a big Fan of Friday the thirteenth anything else says and then it's like the craziness of their relationship but just really freight fear and I was like Oh this is to maternal for me yeah definitely not something that I can give credit to all all over the place lately there's multiple different TV shows movies and stuff pump in the map Stephen King lately and then supposedly it became so popular that WABC decided to take ownership of it and asked me the actress to sign it and stuff like that the ring movies again just yeah I watch them on about that vampire all no offer I couldn't find anything about shit is they just finish feverish finish it's yes not really fan but you can deal with it oh yeah like there are some harms alike but I don't actively go to yeah I mean it really depends if if I get one good thing in amongst ten shipping's adult wash things amazing cozma Corpus yes I definitely am because our person that's why haven't The character Urva too that she denied and up to eight months the after eight months of the show was on it both pretty much yeah that's why everyone was like who's this crazy yeah since Leifer massively popular Oh yeah yeah good and then after each hitchcock era we have carnival of souls Glorious and Beautiful Romance with our began and since then it's just horror is my thing so that's that's me on hey hey didn't fill out he just made more money is capitalism pig about this Ninety percent of all book sold a Stephen King Book exactly just to do that so like yeah when the torture Porn era started it was even yeah that's basically it's just that's just basically turned into the thing yet another one but that's because our whole 'cause car shit so nothing really to interests me will like Benjamin has to insist that there is absolutely no refunds from this movie because it was so terrifying that if you ran out doc in posted on Europe fifteen year old kid K and then I'll wash fucking loved it and that's when I fell in love with zombies that's what I fell in love with horror and that's when my secreted and then tried to bite off of like north by Bob Dole Honey Levi your money back Konovalov Sol's just one woman trying to dance in the carnival of souls and they want to on I think he is the first black protagonist understand that but in the southern racists kill him at the end the whole night of Horace Yeah I watched the second season I season McCullough again again for the excellence just delivered really George Ramirez knotted living dead block yet what am I black protagonists I think it is the first black protagonists awesome female characters that's not clubs in everyday life just a full so that's what I got to see the early hitchcock stop and everything and again a lot of family friends actually had a lot of the heart types and everything Ben was just sitting at the window off to survive and was like hey I'm just gonNA shoot this comes in the John rate is something I do seek and everything it's just I think just most mullen horror films have forgotten the horror element is become legislate go fast and it's just insult and they can't destroy she wouldn't sign it over to get the Dulbin hi she doesn't she doesn't want to admit that she did beetlejuice high and then as nick the goat came along yeah 'cause they will hide in the cellar would bother rock south ride and like you heard her screaming I thought that could have been anyone out there sitting the Dole whiting shoots edge just manhandled that what go handle it actually the rational one recesses of your side and Workum to dame fancies doc so hello and you're listening to dead it was about this rational was ed the guys hey oh you're going to get car no local back into the cellars I know just a little bit of that Peer so basically she used to go around the actress used to go around like dressed as this character character right the jump on US shape you bury you can play with far too much that's what happened she's still she's dressed like that public go out like yeah but if they hit the setup I would've survived yeah that's the other fifty the guys that have come along since the house like okay yeah I guess for me I used to be absolutely shit scared of horror up until I was about fourteen fifteen I wouldn't I wouldn't watch I refuse to be afraid of being afraid but if the shootings get money and then they make more shit things that's what I did when people like those at all it's like another wasn't on the fire fucking great movie Yes dead was amazing and and Jorge Romero Kinda got stooge this man over here he's like Oh you call yourself another zombies as sheriff what all yes I'll be what a potshot that was the Jamaican Guy Bobby landing this guy delays gate just such a good walking dead which is interesting enough because walking dead's for only the only Zombie series was ambi- media that acts okay I guess he was a military bed and in a world if you're military man and you don't have any orders you go crazy and make your own yeah oh it's basically it's might makes right yeah and that's what they were doing because they had those amazing caves scenes we need to get up in this Willie bird ear and get out of here underground. Yeah that's in the military base awesome antagonistic together I e Chow Ed movies while Jj Attendee on working on the fifth season have slow-motion sex scenes he actually had the dad from a modern family actually cheek on camera and actually had a mobile soundtrack Kamanga it kind of follows Georgia's vision on some movies Yep yeah where it's the plot about the people not designees as like the antagonised it's the people around you mm what's his name King Kupa yet the follow-up dawn of the dead not in seventy eight only that is non living dead spawned two amazing Sake actually it spawns frame izing sequels I'm not GonNa lie landed the did was amazing Yeah I'm in Baker Aka the list and and job that can do the rise dawn of the dead the remake you that was his actions I feel yeah that's right well Carol Carol fucking angels Yeah I'm so glad that the main character from the midst play Rick Grimes they wanted to of the dead yeah which is the remake of the one where they tracked in the mall that's dawn of the dead that's the first commercial film all the second who had also attracts donated anti the did y'all had amazing soundtracks dawn is one of the days the one I missed yeah yeah so it's so strangely went for movies like Shawshank redemption to the mist and then good am say because they keep them off Frank Darabont Frank Darabont also fog in Shawshank redemption and he did ah yeah they they have remade old first-rate they kind of released the rainmakers day the dead the dead bloodlines loss Chia I wasn't as good but they still had hello teamed up for a lot of money for wasn't making enough money the walking dead had quite a few of the actors for the beast trilogy and then that land of the dead good movie and then we had Dari of the dead I liked the did I didn't I didn't find it too bad all of the little like I need to watch it again yeah same and then now we don't have George Anymore George Defying let's look at dawn of the dead original like everyone was fine just mowing them down like anything and then all of a sudden the box came up and fucked everything up the dead we're sick and everything was good as well I love the really love David it had us six Amtrak Day of the dead he often missed like he is the only part of that movie I thought like on fucking point here like just the news that Tara I I love really yeah here's the most bland actor I've ever seen the main dude in the missed I haven't seen emanating Aso thank God he didn't deserve to be So that would fucking sock now in the villa stuff that is clearly been inspired by lovecraft those monsters were often by nature yeah I mean h thing was a it was a combination of different things here's something and then they park somewhere and the main character whisper something into his sons era as kind of it's revealed that the entire world is covered in the midst his son those two old people cheek then get at just to see the army rock Tuomo sized little to no sense on a good day is yeah but that scene was timeless year now how long he waited there before he decided that I'm like Whoa use blue dom versus the scientists found everything up you know people just combine us when they backed into a corner I don't know why attended down just think he was over it yeah too old the the mistake series was small happening yet they like off the trees making people kill themselves because of environment like that fucking gigantic Magana 's at the end of that fucking movie terrifies the shit out of me but at the same time it doesn't B.'s fucking doc was the movie at the like your brothers the strangest human then he comes up with some great wisdom does like me it's our did the good bad guy dawn of the dead that's probably my favorite the ending to that those supposed to be the end again in the novella the one that Stephen King Road it's like Dan listening to the radio and John and I agree could be nowadays you literally dern are how long they sent a couple before he workup worked up the nerve yeah yeah suck suck is to be these terrifying climb move beasts on such a hot man God you gotTa crying I'm Ocean on the gone on that like if you've ever watch true blood amazing saying that Clip Jin what's his name but he's in all the Star Wars Games and he's in days gone in the main character in days gone that you played yeah killer on it'd be terrifying see that's interesting because it's interesting they make movies like that when the true blood because it really shows a good representation of what the world would be like vampires have real people yeah yeah I WANNA video games a lot yeah so that's the Mr you did DRAC you'll that's one that is actually used to suck Sir and one cheek with the all the bees came in whatever she gets stabbed in the neck and just along in Frankenstein and gave it a bit of a sexy I don't know too much about how horrible the hammer ones that's the one with Chris Farley the dead movies as well and then that's when we got onto the the Hemel hero around the same time to the X. rated horror which kind of rehashed it's called Muslims yeah that TV series not not as much and show you terrifying things but at East Physical Films Films Films Ryan Kills Ryan Films by Me Ryan's through inskeep one film per episode in three different formats exactly right botic and don also pay cushing Yup pinnacle she did the Frankenstein for movies I think he did yeah yeah we're the only podcast that happens to be spitting and being Polish while we do it we discussed the movies that few dare to discuss you can find watch the ones I'm sorta accomplish just shut his shuttle is people off like ten minutes and then Yon who is yeah but I think my brother is basically any platform in which you can find a podcast spitting Polish presents you'll find us they don't run the win to go on vacation with his family hey everyone it's Anton hosted the discount podcast look man money's can suck a lot the weekends over you gotta go back to work maybe you can't stand your co 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The rules of the pacing with the pacing was quite interesting because it was quite a slow film slowed it's just the visuals rocking soundtrack of tubular bells for the Gut. deb That's what the faulk bad walks down the stairs because it looks at and then it cuts the new sade it's like how did she explain that just ship they had blogs there in blood banks and everything they must be well that's what that's what the blood drive is these days blood goes off no because MRS and it'll say yeah and it just goes into so many different genres this one folks Micheal Field I took a lot of drugs tomato song at that demonic possession thing and also there was a spoof movie over called repossessed starring Leslie Nielsen Geico what what Yes is in the young places like coming to me instead and then he kills himself out the window and kills himself killing Damon wonderful to more and listening my balance okay lost time we left we would just moving into the seventy s so to Sydney Adema madhouse it was only one season alright madhouse only one season so those things anyway adopt then when it came to the the kind of the Kirsch Endo of the whole thing that's when like you had the internal struggles of the old priest and the young priest the old phrase has a heart attack and hey ray constantly rape possessed by the demon watching television it was actually the it happened so the good people because you're at the demon men so Reagan ends up playing with the way bullet and that's when pizzazz Mike Oldfield was doing some serious like troops shit fuck explain the soundtrack what you hear at the very start is the excess female and it's forty it's GonNa be there by people trying to await them and whatnot always kind of nailed a debate if it was a secret society of the secret mm-hmm yeah so yeah and then we all said the Stepford wives which in the vein of Westworld and that stuff custom-made women you've seen both of the the original right of science which signs it was a horrible movie it was a horrible fill like aliens come over way from another planet but they're allergic to water good and people like you so you can only make one season of stuff that's good yeah unfortunately thanks but the exit really gave his they can't planet that's like seventy percent water and rains all the time they he'll face I wanted to invade and Mel Gibson's like we as a love the full breadth best Willis Cody Horn and yeah Meryl Streep from does something she did something what's that movie called take control I Nikon Control Women Yeah robots and women things you just cannot control trying we've seen that always into bed alive westworld custom-made women did that one that's what I remember and as usual like westworld robots copy controlled remake seventy Nick Yeah I think the remake I'll probably get in the title wrong so forgive me if it wants to stupidity it Monday like that but it actually actually shot and everything like holes and everything and there never showed how she patches up something out and everything else like that but at the end they go to the funeral for the scientists that died and everything he lived to an old everything and the live sorry so it's really hard like comedy I yeah because I think the rainmaker align is not slaves drives a pair of escape toyed trap let them starve come out excellent whatever you can still see it's a good movie it's above the Steph was where basically they do what they can to remain alive forever and they had taming I just sent it back L. in Supernatural told us a you should with special cult by Samuel Colt or stab with enough to just as a supranational animation conflict with other scientists and everything about it because the does want to be able to have stuff like that and that's one of the imagery member at all because it's like I'm sorry I'm going back to the movie basically wanted just Bruce Willis is married to I think it's unloved vampires in the game I had a blood drive at the anime that's obviously for the not I told her to death or something yeah horror film God off to look this shit up with the news rocket to Rocky Balboa the young praised compass sane when they're having a dinner party then all of a sudden Reagan just spider just walking in and they triple instead they just completely collapsed podcast that's not Stafford while some big that is something the one will Bruce Orange comes really fat and whatnot but somehow she gets in these connection of like this we mystic Egyptian this connect competition each other they just WanNa role in each other's lives dom basically she steals husband and then Goldie Hawn Title IV married to Goldie Hawn yes but in this movie she's like her best friend story about a woman who has issues in high school but also is a telepathic soccer Beth Yep yep the classic pig blood sane who Alexa Yeah Super Hot for some reason nice yeah actually and the other person takes it and then they a fighting over him and basically it makes you a mortar like you'll be shot me dismember but still alive just gonNA stick yourself back together rape becomes like a super famous actor and they go potty and then mousetraps just like they've some reason hearn Goldie Hawn's characters they just have the stafford wives head on Nicole Kidman it puzzles most likely I still contact and actually had setup was actors like adult they're for Kerry in that actually had rigged up so the furniture would move and everything would scream like look like in the movie and then captured she's like nineteen and she looks hottest faulk Celtic still carry a very classic coming of age film like panel activity had a fucking phenomenal marketing campaign. I know we've already touched on these but it was the marketing camp is as we move the actually my watch list for Halloween Spook towbar so that's the personal yeah Brenda Brenda carried those movies every three is still by favorite scary because it has the splash of kids inside of a because you kind of at the start of the movie the old appraised is gone through aged ten and then again ah well that's one thing I've realized about horror films is lots of them have really good marketing campaigns Yes yes and the marketing campaign will make or break a hard early on death becomes her yes that one no I do yeah yeah so move the thinking about is that I don't understand like in that movie bad Ben Okay it's confusing was the kirsty a- and yet Goldie Hawn no it's actually it's actually based on a true story of when Goldie Hawn did jinking Elixir of everlasting youth I did wiles sleepy this Guy Levi's art house fucking on Saddam the door kind of cracking open that's like reveling the scene with the dog was time with that Ben that's because that's any bad then you're scared me Ooh that Ben was locked up in the basement right S. and then that was when he's like the Chinchilla screaming yeah has he pulled him down because he got all the way out of the basement and then he turned around the remake of that neither one Khloe amazing advertisement campaign ahead for the Midwest actually had people walk into a cafe day you know the pace soup for Allah's well interrupts the Potty and uh-huh we have the as well Damian six six six devil child yeah yeah that was a classic classic movie it was reactions people in cinema then like you watch the movie and then you realize you've been duped because why would these people screaming at the same time way swing away and Wiley dial is it and then at the end Bruce Willis is just like hanging off the edge of a cliff or something and they're like no you gotta drink the potion he he's just like knowing chops in the in the basement so I don't know maybe it goes of I guess we'll find out if we watch more of them those timeless classic Oh yeah I remember my mom told me was like in early Stri when she went down to the in my house try and ate them as well shocks people Bennett and then one of the first big creature movies in the water big-budget Joel a day try to remake that is full didn't go so well it was just cold Omon McCone Cockatiel in the troubled child doc ID abrasive Yep I was like that who who was buried outside that was with the baby was buried Ben here by Ben I guess Qatar Slash affil- Woo with orca killer whale instead it's free really super smart and like takes down people's houses copyright films that movie You could play that on public place yeah trouble no issues probably movie what's the of one another kind of fee a lotta great white sharks trial and for some reason when someone gets attacked I'll one response is let's kill a mole and eight leary scared the shit at everyone in williamstown where she was living in nursing that no one went into the water off and year I can imagine that because we do have ah I haven't showed you the state of bad bed yet I actually starts beating the shit out of a who was that that was the ghost of Ben did her that that was a weeping that was in the basement Ben Babbit kept in number he still is dead between Rela yeah no the Yeah Benfica everyone stuck in the paddle van is like to the front and they'd be like six other people but they've come up by a blanket and they never check and so everyone went to watch jaws go to their homes but yet jaws Thomas Classic Richard Dreyfuss folk in such a good movie many many scenes from the shitting the in her review and he's like holy crap we're going to find out it's good kill Orca really deal senator without the head Spin Powell lasted aw time okay problem child he was he was a child an able child yeah coke is trying to get remarried he's like we have to watch more onion this country a deep deep all that for it's just like we're watching and we manage the boy he wants to go so he's just going to punch him in the face at the whose reactions to it so they'd be like who really banking scandal action Kelly the Catholic what's happening that's just the ad for fun the Child Problem Child Apologize Oh yeah that's right probably top the white guy sleepy bed he just just all the imagery in the saints enjoys Oh yeah I have a photo of again abundance university is have the giant jaws hanging from the or actually get the photo in from the shark's mouth the little kids I really faces of Hamelin watching Classic Movie Monster I'm pretty sure it's free really trust void that's amazing really highlight they actually on seventy seven capitalize on the success says it's Joel's mates moby Dick Extreme the last time that law literally replace him with it actually even seal beach themselves and will not to them and then ate them. I don't know why this is so creepy Joel three that's jaws of Joe's I just like the actual movie where he starts begun that'd be good but I'm just saying kill great whites are smart it'd be cool to the animals it's cruel yeah if socks of the drizzle then Orcas are the veloce raptors yeah of how they worked together the revenge that's when Sheriff Brody's now wife who is newly widowed sheriff has died her son dies killer shrike watch dog and then not blow you it's Feis off with grenade the jaws movies really I'll select collars that up walker and we'll get that third quarter but the they make it out like that the killer whale was super smart and it's just hunting like this uh-huh chose to because it was the same same act the same characters and then all the kids the boats and they kind of have all the boats together and that's where the shock yeah they have I think if I remember correctly like some people like driving a burden baby killer whale and the mom the whole family so I- phenomenal is when the ship gets eaten half and that's what the sale it's like it's so well done like how he just struggles with the shock at first fucking then moving onto the world of slash shots really attracted to blood knowing they actually did a research just yet his they're also scary that shocks yeah hunting packs sharks do not babies to make just a bad bad movie yeah what you GonNa do about our Shaq Shaq like ice ice seem bunch gloss to Bob and the abstained that comes with this film the Texas chainsaw massacre yes definitely slash oh slash eats it was I didn't feel bad fucking movie deep blue sea the flu say was good bad movie movin up it's fucking funny and then off to that man I'm surprised we haven't done or you make actor putting trump and that's the first time he actually sold the shock already said that not so long ago that's bullshit that's ally lets us so you could cut your wrist as much as you want in the world now improvised as well yeah I can imagine yeah so what he's like Sh- it's also that amazing the water so she moves to the opposite coast but the shock followed her into shock a bond or you just starts beating you up and grabs the electric thing and Sheldon tells me I'll chose jaws did you want to shock nothing about Joel's the movie the first one the part where the guys feeding what's his name but I'm not sure I would consider that a slash ought suspenseful thriller yeah but so definitely no one is seen to do the reaction when he sees the shot for the first time as well guys like the big Y eyeballs pop out of his eyelids itself hitting the palying a Mauve from Malone love you could do it on no go get make that's always sounds like lot deeply Z. Gosh she screams to yeah and that's kind of what what's his face Rob Zombie is going forward it has thousand courses ice about lay the face himself another say cool to the Ray boot a prequel to the sequel of the Ray Booed me missile Mexican movie where at the end the guys like this leads as at the dance with a chainsaw something yeah the The remake came out people so freaked out they just like real footage of the Chase Obasanjo that's genucel seaworld sheriff brody son we'd say well John Kilowatt gets somehow giant who's very Texas chainsaw massacre risk Yup because you had all the different family members yeah kind of like that crazy uncle what's what's the Texas chain Oh yes oh the Texas chainsaw massacres sport so many different things influenced so many different movie ideas he gave us the Halloween even the mosque killer who was the inspiration behind Ed gaining yeah the the guy who famously enough used to give all the paper Eh Willie eight free so seventy five and this one everybody believed everything so what they since up today just like this must be factual it's chain story and Hamry movie did not age well look there's no say eh well it's spawn what Seko's to that original one array booed a prequel an race in one just called leather again freak people out I thought it was real before the one eighty venison You guys now have crew this madness from aiding people yes the Halloween is another heavy hitter on the the old suspenseful thriller slash saying and that's one of your first loves Haarer isn't it Oh yes the closest thing is still easy everyone always talks about that same when it comes onto this isn't it yeah chasing and her brother Psychopath all right don't be sorry yeah yes so we moving to the first slash saul film Saad let's take psycho Ed of the equation Web terrifying captured on everything phenomenally is huge Jamie Lee Curtis got the nickname scream queen yeah it is believed shadow oracle that she's escaped down the road and that's what he's just like he'd get away Halloween did you the Halloween mosque you that was a mold of William Shatner's face out action that he shares is natural reaction what it looked like be also he's like just lean back we're going to need a big bird was actually randy's straight smoked venison that he made it his own smoke house and when the police finally caught him they found human remains in his smoke house so there's quick orange I'd consider clockwork orange you're not a horror but it was kind of horrible scary but the it just get it off the air now turned into amazing Yeah Halloween and settling yeah the shining shinning the Shinhan net Irish I recently that is a good movie yeah Stephen King was like Nah I wasn't this mosque movie kills Jason Voice Friday and All these lists B.'s we've already talked about Friday quite intensively yeah but Friday Jason Focus of the errors made in everything I look at it full of the film when the Eric's maiden Oh yeah that's a very suspenseful film when it first came out that would screen uh and Halloween also spawned its own array of sequels died it was probably four in the original quote causal is a five Jason Jason finishing that off for Jason on-ice is very nice it's about time it's actually good it's good it was fun watching Kinski relies yeah scrape the shooting that ironically enough she starred in shock cold scream coins heartache show aw here's Johnny just the terror she looks live and like Stanley Kubrick had this really good way of filming movie accurate enough now here's my four hour movie that I made technology go I nine Stephen King doesn't understand movies no he understands books he's like he's like he liked his wide shots and the soundtrack was just so good movie is resonates so well in anyone cabin fever yeah and then we'll move into the KUBRICK era movies lack the shining and we've also got on the TV meal cost would do with that comes with amazing scene where the guys watching the broadcast he's calling up the TV station. I don't care do what you kinda fired the scariest treehouse of horrors was the one with nightmare on evergreen terrace yeah willie was Freddie Krueger Yeah in no way came into the pickup van she gets in the truck she's covered in blood and everything will happen on the go go go and she's actually like laughing uh-huh a realistic fake I can see the wires basically before fighting gay go ahead I just love it the Eddie's like well did well you never know for Willie might come back some way somehow I don't know I just gets off a bus is like hey it's me that I make now the fishermen who was like twenty two seeks me yet but the full this was back in the age where it was retentive Montas was the curse of Michael Wires Yeah and then it was the Fed won't discussing before which had nothing to do with Mike is the kids getting possessively aw you know when you get it you just kill people get crazy yeah and the sequel because as actually coming out next year Dr Sleep starring as the Sun Yeah Yeah so just stick to what you know definitely because not PA which is fine breaking that down like holy crap man that is more I just finished up watching the dream worries so I've got a couple more FRY nominee illustrates anelle yontef but the tree maris man mainly tree maurice the whole friend or foe thing I really enjoy those kinds of things like both in Stargate and the X. files is they've had kind of an episode like that like the theater just because it's yes yeah Shinhan don't you do you WanNa get sued I just want him all the chance it's phenomenal and then also let in Orca Really Awesome fucking movie pitch poster styles or something in front of you introduce different stuff Alfred Hitchcock presents they had a lot of different guy's name yeah that tales from the crypt it also spawned three sequels jaws to San Jos suddenly he goes on a trip and rives at that exact place Econo- starts riding in it starts coming true and all this other stuff but the thing it's that whole paranoia horror she is remembered the data house of the movie because it was so bizarre I think it was about an author who wrote about a bad area or anything that was famous for stupid smart the thing is we got the original with that was during John Carpenter's works it's Freaky as hell x files episode was basically the thing like he was we'd worm first before we talk about the is chasing after a song just a big ass butcher knife only trying to get fruit or stabbing the thing and she's doing everything she can to not get I just love that trilogy of trails of Horse we're really just died in hr bed of this around that year in the eighties as they had Friday the thirteenth had a horror anthology series as well as non marinole straight like Freddy Weed trilogy heels at a movie called in the math of madness which stod same neil watched that we wish it was fucking bizarre prices in it was original yes yeah yes I believe so yeah and then you had the remake with Paris Hilton yeah coming back yeah and then we get into the era video nasties around the he's that's when people direct to video directed video movies who want to eat more macabre and a lot more patches goddamn yeah so they they want to venture out sure the side of the plane and it's actually been torn apart and fun of Komoro Yup some nut I mean yeah there's crooked in price didn't venture price was one of the things we talked about just recently thinks affordable horror at its finest it's well that's causing Kara Paranoia thing and that's what the those movies based in because you like is are you friend or foe outside the box skies when like just before like near the end of the eighties that's when trauma films came around Yes yes so there's a part of that tape trading error is they should actually shut up shut up films is actually about to release a new anthology crave show series as well so we can have the classic crip capable you want to evil dead and it's just amazing so you'd be able to yes yes you are always do so yeah Lubok on nor I left my gun feet Alessio the box cutter I mean on the blade side as well yeah latest terrifying and I just think it's a really good it would have been the video stores so that was where you've got you really fucked up shit and those are the visionaries low this those are the people who yeah yeah okay yeah and that's what happened in time that's that's what they did with the simpsons episode on the not the norm that wanted to bail them more free so those movies and never got never got officially righted because I was circulated between friends and family and stuff and you could also independently really good setup if Alvarez kept on making these films because there was at the very end of the film you did have Ashton groovy and like the chicken she lost her hand at the end of it spas yet while it's lots of Haro I'd call it strange and bizarre I mean I'd call the new twilight zone it was Carl Hart Huma Yeah but yeah I just I think they did a lot of good stuff I mean you know the book looked more tariffs Eh really prevents the price had his own do you think that he was also a a circle of the dockside that's interesting how did your homes and one of my favorite films is they've live and we'll actually able to up the higher than they did yes D- but able to really my favorite one for several reasons Cassandra kicks US beezus funny because it's scary lying in the evil dead reboot so in that opinion it's like hey dude with glosses when a page is done right this don't fucking stupid but then they shafted all the rest of that to make ashes evil dead which I don't complain but they could have kept going with the hall yeah direction because Ashville Yeah so maybe it could have been an alternate reality or a time loop with is this there's always a cabin there's always evil and there's always in Ashburn character yeah bull thanks Jordan peele somebody up says a horrible guess would like the classic Shattner Gremlin on the wing or a it worked more on the possession Horo and had more scenes of pretty much look away like the way that cheeks there's a lot I think I'm an episode down the track we're actually going to do with areas. TV shows towards the end of October works yeah has been talks Ganji was classic video nasty income high all those films video nasties made made so much money remake I'd like to renew I'm not GonNa lie as it delivered it delivered in areas where the original didn't it was yeah now we can tell all the people how to make movies just go out and make it fair enough good good advice you then also in the eighties the and what's that other Zombie trilogy are you talking about Lucia full cheese Zombie trilogy detailing guy who really hey this is just going to be hilarious and we're going to give you eight hundred dollars to make this Boza movie those number and you've got let's let's say sorry that stuff's lovecraft inspired yeah well the necker on itself as a lovecraft Book Sumatra the Guy Yeah classic that's a goal fast sapone Sabrosa McCullough's probably he killed the end Oh an satellite fell to earth and that's causing radiation which raises the dead I was like cool they actually reference it but yeah that was an experiment everyone had like the enjoyment that movie like they're all like punks really curious syndrome and then all of a sudden I just love the same with his own these rise and because of the ashfalls falls down to the cemetery and then the like I'd wake up and then soon shattner he's has a great scene week has his eyes closed and he's he doesn't WanNa look outside and everytime I look at why don't you just like thanks and I love it when they robbed just like okay well here the Harwood hard comedy yeah I mean I e classics Carter Pity Jackson Rhonda's bad taste bad taste and braindead Brendan yeah the one where they got dinesh and rather it was also what was it it was called Brandon he'll was also called dead alive in the US I believe Donna why yes an iron and Elvis classic tale of men who was killed by vigilante justice but somehow gets the ultimate power to do anything he wants yeah focusing on any sharp object would do yeah you can probably hit him with a pillow and killed go back to the big ears ended the movie they burn the final Zombie and then ask goes to the next had grabbed somebody's the other way again episode is when he finally gets insane and these getting caught it away his character of any attack but every slasher up to this point is just being no character faceless yes and Freddie is that's a different slasher film altogether confident because he's definitely the most characterized slash oh yeah yeah along with his own business Martin talking about return of the return of Living Day yes we are as well something Kevin Kevin Bacon is because he tried to do that to someone else and then someone in Hollywood new who will even when they referenced Day reference I living dead in that one right yeah so they were talking about uh-huh ah yes straight ahead yeah and we'll talk about it too yeah and you like all the tagline for that will be it ends yeah it is violent so we got such movies as the experiment love camp that's what the fuck joining the main character into a paranoid freak yeah like Chevron Brody was just completely paranoid he's like we need to shut the beaches down yeah Nah don't be dumb that movie has the dead and he's like I'm GonNa make a sequel this the other ones is you know because you got the the Nautilus dead series I mean the one yeah and then murdered by vigilante justice so now he can do whatever the fuck you want randomly was in that way that's actually something we told him that as well Damons and then army of darkness will just really ranelagh off the Ceva lash relied seen them all I fucking drained Damon's one line is it's like hey dude you repair them all there so is unbounded could like make it through so we could into dreams walking tank that's just moving and he's overpowed that he will kill you with Freddie just like talk like that he makes jokes from talk from the bed the upside down blood bid sermon monies I that's when he turned up just while we're on that or remember how backward talking about the trailer it so yeah evil dead has always held a special place in my heart yeah okay so nine thousand eight nine street the first time you too afraid to go to sleep because he would get job tain hot in any legal live on ELM street there's some dead God seven movies C. Plus Plus Arabia that was really bad yup with Roszak playing Freddie yeah yeah that was that was a shocker yeah you can't dream they dream there's people that come up with the most crazy shouldn't be just bland areas of retirement again with those movie does may be specially on nightmare on elm straight they take the comedy parts yeah only struggling with that but he has a lot of character head he's quite funny he's he's he he likes to people like he was a fucking pedophile Genita- ah face issue with it off Roshan but the problem with thank you got killed in Canada it's like Freddie versus Jason Sorry not trying to like some legends no they do he has different characters or anything like that one where he plays the video games against people fight himself was just a jerk no that's what it is if you actually made a proper Friday the thirteenth film I love you guys just go to this giant club where all the chicks Viki awesome everything now no when the Texas you're so hot babe what excuse me get like also and now I can go back to dreaming about born who so we didn't have to worry about those chuck you chuck dolls when I was a kid in eighty nine appreciate yeah here's something original ideas stop fucking making three or four movies of the Paul's chose and that's all about the serial killer okay yeah so that's a pretty cool okay the living today the the reverse you appreciate a loft and more because you're terrified advocates what about child's play when I come out Montaigne Eighty eight in crewe getting haunted by Freddie and then I don't know what's happening I think there's another ray-ban supposed to be coming out soon but it really depends if they don't Harvey's become too serious there's two different reboots coming out there's one called Chucky yeah and that's about a smart Dole who is like Skynet okay there's one called is it not real okay and then you have a product Chucky Chucky see Zac same movie time it's fucking retarded yeah here's something fun to look when it comes to child play so people type in WCW child's play where they're doing a heavy shakings horror movie and whatnot film actually get breakdown Olek telling the rules of films and everything else like that yeah yeah yeah and that's when you have fucked up if you wanted to fall on Hora and scary that's fine but haven't been of joy because if you've been off in the middle of it all right yeah it's a smart Dole and the basically Oh has a technical problem now it's GonNa vote every walk but it's still chucky news it's a smart Dole the Yankees they were there in the third screen movie yeah unscreened shares the same universe as James Alibaba connected to dogma all the others Kevin Smith movies yeah that's actual actual like child's play with a dollar tax when you just punch it goes there is okay just nit pick a little bit but fucking Sydney's in the police station and the photos on the wall it's like says some spell spilled himself killer who to say take just like going wants to kill everyone his neck brace in an odd 'cause I was so confused of why disguise driving a taxi but yeah that was the one it was just going to soul my Dad Sydney we're actually walked possible and I had the Turkey there and everything satisfying hit that in the face of the hammer fell again he's like he's I guess you kill and the museum at toys still and you and then later on some foods getting into a taxi and for some reason the taxi drivers in nick price and he's got his arm in arm caused and that's the tax thirty nine came out in the states recently that's what I remember a guy called you'll maybe sucks watching easy explained it because he wants to see it 'cause that's so that that's the one about a smart so that was pretty cool I love scream I love the entire screams here is I think the worst grim series in that one is the second one yeah because it's really that killed the movie geek in the sequel three that was on the giants Alibaba Ono smooch e Bucci's as a kid it's called the

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Episode 43: The Herstories of PerSisters Marsha P. Johnson and Brenda Howard

She Who Persisted

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Episode 43: The Herstories of PerSisters Marsha P. Johnson and Brenda Howard

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Elizabeth and today we're going to talk about as as we promised last time yes we are going to talk about mosh pit Johnson and Brenda Howard and the reason why he wants to to do that is that both were very important figures in the stonewall riots and basically in the Algebra movement as a whole now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the Dominion Energy Reliability Investment our new investment product offers. I competitive returns no maintenance fees and flexible online access to your money. Make the reliable investment in reliable energy the Dominion Energy Reliability Investment to find out more go online to reliability investment dot com. That's reliability investment dot com but they often not remembered. Oh celebrated the way that they should yeah I mean that's changing but yes I totally agree and also we didn't want to due to all like L._G._B._T.. Things during eligibility pride month because we don't think it's something that can be limited the two one month but it should be something we talk about all year agreed I it's we talked about this. I think a little bit before but like we a lot like one month two black history month in one month to women's history month in one month to like L._G._B._T._Q.. History and <hes> those parts of history are just as much a <unk> art of global history just plain history as they are <hes> l._G._B._T._Q.. L._G._B._T._Q. History or women's history black history and so the more that we can normalize them as just this is history <hes> the better it is for our understanding standing in the past exactly exactly so yeah it's July but we'll still do pri- topics yes and and I mean this one is a nice intersection of pride of like l._G._B._T._Q.. And like other identities as well yeah also like intersection of eligibilty I._Q.. History Black History but also has story feminist history yes so do you want to start with Masha Joshua Johnson because that's chronologically the fest shirt. Absolutely Marsha p Johnson was born in nineteen. I'M FORTY FIVE IN NEW JERSEY. <hes> she said in an interview in <hes> like the nine in ninety two I think that she started wearing dresses when she was five but <hes> stopped wearing them because she was teased and bullied which is awful but not surprising because people are especially children are can be terrible but as soon as she graduated from high school she moved to New York the the story is with bag of clothes and fifteen dollars yeah also we probably should say that she was when she was born. She was born as a boy quote unquote. Yes yes he gender at birth was goodness. I like I don't even pay attention to that anymore because because it doesn't matter to me but let me find it hold on it was male and Marsha was born Malcolm Michael's junior yet but anyway the she the one of the fun kind of things that I that I read over and over again because has everybody thinks that it's kind of a fun detail. Is that <hes> her middle initial was P. assigned. I mean she she took the name Marcia Johnson Marsha p Johnson for herself and she said that the P. stood for pay no mind because when people asked her what gender she was she would just tell them pay Ainhoa mind like don't it's Nice business which I very China enjoy yeah so <hes> transgender wasn't really the thing that we talked about <hes> in the in the fifties early sixties <hes> when when Marsha was exploring kind of alter alternate <unk> gender identities for herself but she did use <unk> female pronouns for herself at at time she referred to herself as gay a Queen Drag Queen and a transvestite. I think that's probably appropriate to kind of time period. One of the things that I read about her was that she she was very much fighting for her rights as a gay person <hes> and the rights of gay people generally every time she would she would talk publicly quickly. She would talk about getting her right as a gay person. <hes> which I think is is indicative of how people in the sixties and seventies were thinking about <unk> out people who kind of had alternate gender identities who were just part of the L._G._B._T._Q. Community so yeah I think the word transgender didn't even exist then right. I would say now if if it did exist. It certainly wasn't comment yeah so I think it's it's interesting how people describe their identities with completely different vocabulary than we do today I totally agree with that and also that gay was kind of uses an umbrella umbrella dental queer identities general <hes> <hes> and that queer at the time was kind of a slur and his family since then Ben kind of reclaimed named as <hes> something more positive and and affirming yeah yeah so she was known as being very very generous to her friends <unk> <hes> she lived impart on the streets she was also a at times a sex worker. <hes> <hes> one of the things that I thought was particularly interesting on heartening about a Marsha story is that she and Sylvia Rivera actually we started an organization called Star <hes> which was street transacts transvestite action revolutionaries yeah that yeah and it was a political organization that provided housing and other forms of support for homeless Queer Youth and sex workers in Manhattan and I say Queer we're this is not the term that she would have used the term that anybody at the time would have used they would've used transvestite or gay or other things but they basically created needed a home for young people who were coming to New York because New York particularly the Greenwich Village area was known for being very a you know gay friendly despite all of the harassment from police <hes> and they provided a home for them and one of the ways that they paid for that home was through sex work work and so her sex work wasn't just a means of providing for herself but it also was a means of providing for other young young people who were going through the same things that she had gone through and that she wanted to help provide them with a better life. which I thought was like amazing? Yeah it is yeah. I'm just amazed right now. I don't know what to say. This is really very selfless. Yeah yeah no selfless. This is is totally a way to put it so she was part of a once stonewall so we associate her with stonewall. She's often kind of credited credited as being one of the first people who threw the first brick though she interviews after stonewall says like she didn't even show up until later <hes> say that she threw a shot glass into the means of the <unk> the building that was on fire and then they say that that's like the shot glass heard around the world which I think is also a fun thing but she also said she didn't do that. So I mean I think with any type of <hes> quote unquote riot situation there are conflicting reports of what how will wish that it had been and reports from the people themselves themselves about either either diminishing their role in it or you know rectifying the facts of the situation Ed guardless of whether or not she did Around New York and so it was the two days of the stonewall riots were l._G._B._T._Q.. People protesting rioting for the first few days in them many days of protest for for a week after that the brutality and harassment that was going on <hes> by police <hes> yet was an infringement on their civil civil rights as as individuals as Americans and they <hes> they were tired of it and I think we said in our in our last episode that it isn't isn't until this year fifty years after the stonewall riots that <hes> the police in New York finally apologized for the harassment and for that which led to the stonewall riots yeah. I think it's always important to remember that even now as when pride is this kind of this commercialized Party paret thing it used to be a very political like riot situation not not a party yeah no I it's <hes> I was just reading an article written by a young Queer historian here in D._C.. And she wrote that you know we talk about we talk about pride now and and it's a party situation and the streets are often like lined with the police who were supportive and who are protecting the L._G._B._T._Q.. Community but that's not at all how pride can start it out because it was very much a protest against his police who were harassing these same same individuals who they're now protecting yeah yet stonewall happened <hes> it was rated rated again and they fought fight against it <hes> but Johnson after stonewall was a very frequent organizer and participant suspending gay rights protests <hes> as I mentioned she founded the street transvestite <unk> action revolutionaries or star opened a homeless shelter turf for L._G._B._T._q.. Youth the first of its kind in the country and she was very active in the Gay Liberation Front and participated in the very first Christopher Street Liberation Party Pride Rally on the first anniversary of the stonewall rebellion the problem one of the problems problems that <hes> that kind of came up is that she was she was trans and she was very <hes> you you know very much the word I WANNA use is she was an affront and very loud reminder that that she was gender non conforming and that she was not going to <hes> not going to fit into neat boxes that people people wanted to create for for gender in the in the United States N._p._r.. And and so when they when in nineteen seventy-three <hes> when they they had another gay pride parade <hes> they get by the gay and Lesbian Committee in New York they actually banned Johnson and Sylvia Rivera from participating in Nike Pride Parade because they said quote they weren't GonNa allow drag Queens at their marshes saying that they gave them a bad name yeah so I mean I think at the very beginning and I think you see this with <hes> there was a march in Philadelphia that they did that was at the UH Liberty Bell and and people were told to dress like in their work closed and just look like normal people like everyone else like no nor look like normal people with yet but I think that it trans people were like were not the way that they wanted to portray their community <hes> and so they were very exclusionary at in the early pride parades of transpeople yet and I think they I think the eligibility community is still in many ways very exclusive and exclusionary. I will also talk about this for a bit yeah. I think that pride it can be a lot like that especially because it has like a lot of corporate sponsorship now and Jerry like you know it's fun party but you know this is why live there are there's Trans Pride and there's dyke marches and there are other things along with it because they don't feel represented by the official pride exactly the response though to this like exclusion in the nineteen seventy-three pride parade was is that they marched ahead of the parade as as a form of protest <hes> which I thought was great like be in are premade fine. We'll just walk ahead of your parade and we all you know we will be a very stark reminder that we are not unified and that you are excluding us which I appreciate yeah me too so enduring a gay rights rally in New York in the early seventies a reporter asked her why why they were demonstrating strating and why they were protesting and she shouted into the microphone darling. I want my gay rights now so <hes> you know her gay. The rights were maybe because of her kind of intersectional identity. She identified as a black woman. <hes> those those identities each layer of that what is is one different form of oppression being a black person that being a black woman of being a gay black woman being a trans gay black woman I mean all of those things combine and saying I want my gay rights now as saying that I have a lot of identities that that deserve rights and they are being <music> <hes> denied me and it's not just about your game but also about exactly exactly yeah she was amazing. She did a lot of amazing amazing things up right up until her death in nineteen ninety two. I believe and there's actually yet ninety two. There's actually a couple of documentaries about her that I would that I would definitely recommend one is called pay no mind which kind of Oh yeah plays on her own personal name and the other one is I think it's called the life and death of <hes> Marsha p Johnson and that's on on Netflix right now and it's actually it follows a trans woman in New York. WHO's really trying to get her? Her death reopened as a cold case because <hes> there were reports from people so she died in in the Hudson River. which is the river right? <hes> Byron York she had been harassed as a as a sex worker as the tram sex worker and there were reports that she had been harassed by multiple people during that time and that somebody had gone into a bar and said that he just killed a quote unquote tranny named Marsha so and then somebody saw that she had like a you know a wound or a hole in the back of her head when they pulled her out of the river now that could have happened any number of ways but people within the community really wanted to <hes> investigate it and not just listed as an accident has a suicide suicide because they didn't think that she would have committed suicide <hes> so yeah it's still unsolved and it also I think the whole thing goes to show that as has a black trans woman as a activist as a sex worker she her death wasn't taken as seriously as the death of a white says person agreed agreed and I mean I think that that we see that just without adding the trans aspect to it we see it. The reporting of of how we report like people who end up getting kidnapped hit people who wind up dead in the United States. I'm sure beyond yeah but it's it's it's sad it's terrible yeah yeah so <hes> so she still has a long legacy and actually <hes> they are getting ready to announce this year that they will be putting up a a monument to honor <hes> yeah had Marsha p Johnson and Sylvia Rivera. I think near Stonewall on wall but I I do know that her name was one of the one of the first to be entered into the <hes> like not Q. Rights like hall of fame but this this monument. That's going to be erected for <hes> Marsha p Johnson Sylvia Rivera is going to be the first monument to I think they said the first monument to Trans People in the United States yeah yeah it is yeah I read that yeah which is ridiculous agreed. There are a ton of other podcasts that are doing like more <unk> extensive profiles Marsha p Johnson <hes> one thing I do want to mention though is the Marsha p Johnson Institute which is an institute that protects and defends the human rights of black transgender people by advocating advocating <unk> <hes> creating an intentional community to heal developing transformative leadership Very soon how pride month actually is related to rent high with what she has to do with it. All so Brenda how would was an anti war activist <hes> in in this case against against the Vietnam War and some biographies also State that this activism is originally politicized her she also has a sex positive feminist. She lived saved a poly-amorous life. <hes> she was an elderly petit. I Q activists in most specifically later on then also bisexual rights activists he she participated and planned L._G._B._T.. Rights actions for three decades and she wasn't active member of the Gay Liberation Front Act up that you already had about Quinn nation the coalition of Lesbian and gay rights and she was the chair of Gay Activists Alliance so <hes> hold on a second so Brenda Brenda Brenda Howard was was in many of the same groups that Marcia Johnson was in operation yeah exactly like the leg big activist groups that were part of the beginnings of the L._G._B._T._q.. Movement exactly but it's is also very surprising because they were both in New York and that's just what happened in New York so they were both part of that the most important thing however is that without head that would be no pride parades <hes> <hes> there will be no pride month because you basically organize the Fest Elche P._T.. I._Q. which wasn't cold <unk> acute back then the first gay pride March nine thousand nine hundred seventy and that was intended as an anniversary celebration of the stone were riots Liz just told you about it was it's the first anniversary and they basically <hes> doing a parade because of that she also originated the idea for a week long series of events around that Pride Day <hes> and that basically became the genesis of the annual Lt Acute Pride celebrations that are now held around the world every June but she also popularized the term pride together with two other activists with bisexual activist Robert a Martin who was also called Donny the punk and Gay Activists Craig <unk> School Mak- L Craig School make think and they basically came up with that term <hes> pride as the term for the festivities and that all of that is why she is often referred to as the mother of pride Nice Yeah <hes> <hes> also I mean she did so many things so in nineteen eighty seven which is the was on <hes> she co founded the New York area yeah bisexual network and she helped establish all kinds of services for the bisexual community in around New York. She was a member of by pack which is a sexual political optical activist group. She was a regional organizer for buying it uses a CO facilitator of the Bisexual S.. M. Discussion Group and the founder of the first alcoholics anonymous chapter which was targeted specifically at bisexuals which is really amazing because bisexual in all studies that we know or the data that we have <hes> the one <hes> sexual orientation group that when he comes to Reich health outcomes <hes> basically are the worst west golf including gates is this because <hes> bisexual don't feel included or recognized or accepted within L._G._B._T._Q.. Community What an interesting question. I think I mean I think it's a complex conglomerates conglomerates of different reasons. I think one of the most important ones is that bisexuals on neither pot of like straight the white majority nor are they really part of the gay lesbian community and very often stigmatized in both of those groups so they're they're often feel like they don't have like community to begin with yet. Many reasons by sexuality's very often rendered invisible when UH society the its existence is questioned people who are bisexual often have like continues his experience of the sexuality identity being questioned so there's many many aspects that lead to bisexual people having West Health and particularly west mental health suicide talapity pressure anxiety and of course all of that then can lead to drug and alcohol abuse as a coping coping strategy and that's the reason why it's it's very very very cool thing that she yeah like <hes> founded this <unk> alcoholics anonymous chapter which is targeted at bisexual people people also very necessary necessary probably and she of course also worked on the march on Washington for lesbian and gay rights the march on Washington for Lesbian Gay. Hey in by equal rights and liberation where she was co chair of the letter contingent so I mean I could go on forever <hes> but basically basically Howard was at bisexual woman but she was also openly poly-amorous into practice videos so she also is what we call an affront to the gay rights movement. B._C._S._M. is totally one of those things where like people are okay like making fun of it in movies and they're like or they're like fifty shades like Oh. I'm going to play around with it but they don't. They don't really want to think about people who do that as a lifestyle <hes> and they want to think about what that means and why they're doing it is a lifestyle very similar to way people don't want to like actually think about and confront like bisexuality and that that is a legitimate that these are things that are an affront to the power dynamics and be the social dynamics that we have in terms of sexuality and gender and they really turn turn those dynamics and those binary is on their head in a lot of ways both bisexuality in Bedia Sambi D._S._M.. Like takes the power dynamics that we have in society and says like every relationship is essentially like it deals with power you just don't realize it and we're GONNA play around without power in a way that is pleasurable and maybe painful and but that <hes> interrogates like the dot power our but people don't like to those are two identities where people don't really like to to think about them too much yeah also the same goes a sexual something that's completely rented invisible and we have a great episode about asexuality. If you WANNA go yet China listen to that what I think is just sad for the whole of society even people who are not bisexual people who don't practice be d._S._M.. For people who are not sexual is that each one of us can learn so much from people with other sexual identities. I like island so much from the Bedia m community about consent her yes even if I don't practice medium island so much from reading about a sexuality when it comes to <hes> expressing my sexual identities because they have such a when it comes to expressing my forms of attraction because they have such a varied vocabulary of differentiating French chatting between sexual attraction and romantic attraction in aesthetic attraction and it just is so it just enriches everyone to to respect and yes talk walkabout talk with the people that have completely different concept of their own sexuality as Yuji yet. No I totally agree. I mean the issues of consent. The media send brings up. It is if you go to any B._C._S._M.. Club like everything there is about consent and they they will do workshops on how to talk about consent and how to think about consent and how to how to really make that a central aspect of every like all play not all scenes and I think that that's really interesting if we're not open to learning about different ways to talk talk about sexuality in different ways to talk about consent in different ways to get to approach identities than we are never going join to evolve as a society that that appreciates people's rights and people's identities things have changed language has changed language guages constantly evolving. It's not up to those communities to teach us how to respect them and it's up to us to learn how to respect them and and we can come to it from a place of like lesser knowledge and say like Hey I don't I don't know the right way to do this but admit that you don't know the right right way to do it and then learn from that and like I'm not perfect and you're not perfect and none of us in this society are perfect but being open to learning about the best way hey to approach that <hes> is super important yeah as Walt Whitman said be curious not judgmental. Yes Ah so Brenda how would probably is the most striking example of what I would call Bayerische. She was such significant part of the eligibility community without high would have no pride parades but still very few people know her and the reason for that is said by erasure and invisibility and I will only touch this on this topic very briefly because we already did an episode awhile ago I think he was episode. Full Greg <hes> about by negativities also one thing that I recommend and is the wonderful podcast stuff. Mum Never told you just did a two part on bisexuality in highly highly recommended because what they did is they invited lighted bisexual people and bisexual researches to talk about their own experiences with by negatively by Iringa by Rasiah with judgement but also also talked to talk It does look like a Goblin guts. I'm not gobbling shaming him. goblins denies so who yeah so he asked in an interview that you can watch Youtube <hes> because she's married to man now and she's in a monogamous relationship with her husband island and he was like so you straight now you webuye sexual and then she goes on to explain how she's still bisexual because being bisexual also can imply being in a relationship with a man so yeah so this also happens to celebrities <hes> yeah but I don't want to go into details about I'd walk by Nick activity and buying usability means because I said we've already talked about this. Others have talked about this eloquently than I ever could but I want to talk about how how that relates to Brenda Howard so the L._G._B._T._Q.. Community as we know it today or at least its media image mediated image is mostly <unk> spearheaded by young white white able bodied men yeah at least its representation and bisexual people particularly bisexual women who make a very huge pot of the perceptual of the L._G._B._T._q.. Community in general and particularly those who don't give many Fox about respectability politics like marriage for all are often made invisible and Brenda Howard was such a woman she was bisexual woman. She was not very marketable shifted poly-amorous live she at the same time <hes> <hes> the gay rights movement fought for the right to marry. She was very radical. She was very militant. She was feminist practice padeas. 'em And also I think basically we have to think about the difference between gave rides in collaboration the former campaigns for inclusion into existing institutions most prominently especially recently the right to marry and the latter quilt peration wants more radical structural change and it calls calls into question those institutions and the Patriarchal Quia phobic capitalists foundations these institutions build upon so gave rise is very much about bowed respectability politics if you look at the whole discourse around gay marriage and was based on the idea of we are normal which just like you we also want to monogamous nuclear family and dog and a cat and a picket fence and there's nothing scarier radical about right and doing so gay rights and I intentionally say gay rights and gay and Lesbian Rights because the gay rights movement also does in fact focus heavily on men <hes> another thing that I criticize so doing so the gay rights movement also perpetuates normative ideas about sexuality about relationships and that love about family but can ship about Mona Sexuality not about monogamy that I have a friend to actually we all know her amy dreyer she used to be <hes> choose to organize the Denver Pride Parade and I know or pride celebrations generally and <hes> I know from her and from my experience of pride the year <hes> here in the D._C.. Area that it is I mean it is it is more inclusive probably than it has been in the past but it is definitely like its corporate sponsored. It's a lot of like gateway men or gay men period but often gay white men who are <hes> like very pleased with themselves. It doesn't allow a lot often allow on a space for people people who are not gay white cysts men who probably live even probably have relationships that I'm not normative that are not monogamous or that agreed but I think the fact that prevents aw like corporate sponsored hasn't looked to do with with Wi- <hes> it's mostly gay hey white men who all visible because that's also the demographic group within the L._G._B._T._q.. Community that is the most affluent yeah and they can be targeted by demos targeted by advertising et Cetera et Cetera so I think the reason why we most <unk> white men in the media is capitalism basically yet. No I totally agree yeah so oh yeah so Brenda highway. She was radical sex positive feminist poly-amorous P. M. Practitioner. She was probably not exactly the best figurehead when you're prime goal is the the right to marry so I think she in many ways has been forgot forgotten very intentionally. Let's put it that way yeah so ooh ooh ooh. I think you know I know society would generally have a huge problem with mono sexism which is the assumption that everyone is Mojo sexual which means the only sexually interested in one sex gender expression which is just a falsity <hes> seventy five percent of the eligibility I._Q.. Community unity is bisexual and again most of them are women which made might also play a part in wider rendered invisible so yeah please listen to the podcast episodes that are recommended that helps probably helps contextualized everything I just said and also think we have to start acknowledging the huge pot brought by sexual people in non sexual people of all kinds play in the eligibility acute community noon Brdo Society and the contributions they have made and keep making <hes> in L._T.. In the property rights movement yeah I mean an and Brent Howard is just the best example for that yet no I. I think you're absolutely right. <hes> you know we we we on our podcast can do our part in raising the visibility of individuals who played an important role in <hes> l._G._B._T._Q.. History but particularly in in identities that were that have been marginalized and are in continue to be marginalized within within within movement because it's not just one movement it's multiple movements at and the if we call it like the movement generally we are are necessarily excluding those people don't identify with the leaders of if we even have leaders of of the movement itself so we're bringing up the issues and bringing up the identities of people who are who have been marginalized people who are continue to be marginalized Israeli important and I think that's part of why we wanted to do this episode about <hes> Marcia Johnson and Brenda Howard is because they are individuals who were you part of pride part of the stonewall riots that we are just now starting to recognize and a and and raise up their identities as people who are critical to our understanding and to whom we owe a lot of gratitude for the work that they did and the work that that people continue to do in their name yeah exactly exactly and I would like to end with quotes by Tom. Lehman <unk>. Tom Lehman Celli said that in two thousand and five the next time someone asks you why Lt Pride Marches exist or why gay pride month is June. Tell them a bisexual woman named Brenda Howard so icy and yeah one thing you can add to that is and because black bisexual trans woman yeah exactly cool all right so. I hope you learned something today. I learnt let's see what did I learn. I learned <hes> <hes> that we need to talk more about bisexual and polly women who were leaders in in forming communities that are not just the leg standard pride parade in. I learned today in doing research will not today but when I was doing research for this is that it's not just something that I learned recently but something that I was reminded about we need to talk more about violence against Trans Women we need to talk more are about violence against black women. Yes we need to talk more about violence against women generally and Dan we need to <hes> we need to do a better job of raising the visibility of of these issues of violence against a against people of marginalized realized identities period and when you to understand how much marginalized <unk> people with marginalized identities all like central like <hes> in the middle of our society in the middle of communities and I'm not on the margins but like a just a very like like yeah. I didn't want to normal but I'm going to say that the president everywhere everywhere one of the <hes> one of the slogans of the Queer Movement was is we're here week. We deal with it. Yes or something like that so I think it's very true yeah. I'm GONNA say when it said. I hope you learned something. That was actually token. Will I know I know you're the rent's where our listeners but like you know. These are things yeah <hes> I will say it's nice to hear that you also land something yeah. <hes> I think I'm GONNA say something Super Cheesy like it's not that they're normal. They are part of the rainbow of identities and you can't have have a rainbow without those areas colors in it. I know it's Super Cheesy so nice. Thank you so so much all right. I think that's

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Trying Something New

In the Garden

56:05 min | 2 years ago

Trying Something New

"Robot role? Mixes? And the win. Third. Someone blessed the. Someone limb from. The rain. Welcome to in the garden here on W D V in the garden with Peter Burke, author of the. Year round indoor solid gardening. And of course on the web at the daily Gardner dot com. And the garden with Peter Burke is brought to you by the Willie store your true. Value hardware store near Caspian lake in Greensboro by these flowers and garden shop serving you with all your gardening needs by clauses Flores to greenhouse and perennial farm your full service florist with over forty greenhouses in Colchester fine clawson's online at clauses dot com and check the Monday coupons closets. They give you great great values. Also by Montpellier, Agwu, peeler agley farm and garden serving you with all your needs all year round one pill, your agw a farm and garden. 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It was a square foot gardening class. And you know, they have a greet room there at the city, Marcus, really really a nice place to present and all that stuff. So anyway, a lot of like minded people into organic everything there. I would say so, and it's always interesting to me because you're gonna mix of people who are experienced in our thinking about using beds instead of and then there's a bunch of people maybe just bought a house or they've never gardened or they want to try to improve. And you know, so it's a nice mix of people. I guess people can find you online give your website because. Yeah. It's the the daily Gardner, and you just type that in. There's nowadays. There's so many daily gardeners out their daily Gardner, LLC or daily gardener this or that. But it's Peter Burke, you know, the daily garden so. Well. We invite our listeners to call him with gardening questions and comments about how things are starting in your world. And that our local numbers are eight. Oh, two number is two four four one seven seven seven eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five toll free for most anywhere. And it it's it was nice buying my my Pete potch, and my and really getting the room all kind of set and getting myself a heated garden blanket arts that was advice. How you did that? Yes. Good. So good. Great. Well, it's it's interesting something that I try to do every year is is try something new. And and of course, they're just so many varieties that are new to try. But also something that's maybe very common. But I've never tried one year. I tried leaks because I'd never grown. N- them before of always just bought them. And boy that that was so much fun. And so productive that we we kept doing that every year afterwards. And I liked to hear from you guys to tell me what you guys, you know, grew. This was something new to you. And that's a lot of fun in the garden. It's sort of keeps you interesting interested. And and sometimes you find out things that you just never knew about. And in one case, you know, spinach is one of my favorites. I love fresh finish and cooked spinach. And you know, every kind of spinach there is, but once June comes and the really warm weather starts to come Spanish bolt pretty quickly. You can you know, you can get a cutting or two off of it. And in may. But if last year we had a hot SP. Hot in in may, and the radishes alters went to you know, they bolted spinach bolted other s of a neighbor of mine. Judy said in this was quite a few years ago. She said, oh, she's found this new thing at fed coat in called perpetual, spinach. If you don't know fed co sees there over in Maine, and the Michelle lots of great stuff, and she said, you have to try this because it's actually called perpetual Spanish, and there's a lot of different names for it. But that's one that I know. It's actually part of the Swiss chard family, and so it is it's fine in the hot weather, but this particular variety, it has a leaf about the size of your hand in a very small tender stem. And so I, you know, tried it and it was a great in in. So I grow it every year. Now, I mean, it was really super good and delicious fresh, you know, right for the garden. I used it in everything that I use spinach for, you know, whether we cooked it or steamed that stir fry I used it in soups, and it was a perfect substitute for spinach. And you know, it froze up to to my I always look back to my grandparents gardened in New Jersey when my paternal grandparents. And of course, they brought a lot of ideas from Czechoslovakia with them when they emigrated around nineteen nineteen or there about of. But the interesting thing is that they switch. They grew so much Swiss chard that I thought it was a common of of course, it's a known vegetable that time I thought it was I thought it was common as tease and carry and really over the years. I've had a lot of people no idea about Swiss chard. But yeah. In terms of bolting spinach. I look at the seeds and some of them say that they are slow to ball thought. I tell you all. Well, I found in the case of spinach, it's best to plant the spinach in September and October and let a winter over and then it'll come up, and you will have the best the best tasting spinach that you've ever had. So all all shake out, all of my packets that I have for that, you know, are still in my seat box and just use them up in in September and October, and I'll plan to hold bed for foot bed of juice spinach. This is a total aside. But I have I have pet finches little. Finches? And I I I buy in the supermarket baby. Spinach all year round those birds love really gobbling up yet. I have a, you know, a proper birdseed mix that I buy for for for finches, and that has all the vitamins and everything, but they say you could off meant it with with certain vegetables Eddie rate every morning, I give them a good handful. And there's only three of the birds. I give them a good handful of finished. It's all done by the next morning at our heaven's sakes. Never heard of ever heard a warranty and suet and peanut butter and all those things but fresh spinach outdoor birds like the Orioles love, the oranges dot there are inch themselves, which is kind of interesting. It is you can put a hanging orange nutri are put Aren in grape jelly for them. And the real. You mean put the jelly on the orange Oto? Feeder actually has a couple of nails spikes that you put the orange on. And then it's too little dishes for. Four for the not kidding. The pictures on my Facebook goes up by Orioles at Oriole theater. I'll be darned. I'll be darned I'll be any rate. Yeah. The baby spinach. It it amazes me. I can I note seem to see birds any birds eating the spinach out in the garden. It's bunny rabbits that seem to take care of that. But no, my little birdies love love orca by we're Ganic, baby. Spinach for. Yeah. And it's nice because it's so available now. I mean, it wasn't something you'd ever get in the store years ago. It was basically iceberg lettuce was your your lettuce. Now. There's just all these wonderful grades good. Even at the supermarket. Not always better out of the car. The only thing about spinach as I grow a lot. What I did grow a lot of it. Boy got eaten by us, very quick, creamed spinach. And you know, your ton of it goes in there, and no you right, right? You you need a five gallon bucket at to have a meal. That's why you know that having that in the in in the fall planting it, I can fill up every bid that doesn't have garlic in it or anything else in and its first thing, you know, first thing out of the box. It's really great. But then in the this perpetual, spinach so called I said, there's another Baker creek. That was the other catalogue. I got it from. I didn't see it in our, you know, high mulling seats, but and I didn't see Giannis either. But Baker creek in the fed co they're available there. So we had a call last week. I think about radishes. The high it just popped into my mind, how the high mowing seeds have a have a mixture of different radish. And you know, you wonder that some didn't come up some, and I I find that not only do almost all of them come up. But such a great variety. I never would think of, you know, planting individually, and if you'd like you can do it, but highly recommend the high mowing mixed radish seed, you get a variety. I think they call like Easter egg something, you know, some something that's descriptive. And so you got a purple one the white one. I'm not sure if it's a radish or turnip, but it it tastes like a radish, and then the the red, and then there's a pink. And you know, there's a little there's a little variety of or variation of hotness. So you can sort out the next time you wanna buy individual ones, which ones you like to. Well in the in the summer when it warms up. I've found that that white icicle one actually grows really well in the warmer weather. Yeah. Whereas the other ones once it's once turns, you know, you're just it's hard to get a nice nice radish. But you know, some years my wife plants them and they're perfect. And I don't know what she did to them. But they're perfect in the hot. Yeah. Even in the warm weather, but anyway, that's that's the new thing. I tried a few years ago that I really liked was the perpetual spinach. There are quite a few other things that are new, and I did tell people at that class that they could call him questions if they had any and gave him the two four four one seven seven seven. But I didn't remember the toll free one eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five. I'm not sure if Burlington if you're calling from Burlington if you would need to four four the the toll free. Oh, they all they both work. Do they? Yeah. Okay. Eight to five five spills talk. Oh, really? You go. Six hundred number. I felt nothing. Well, I I'll keep the mind. So I after remembers the eight seven seven to nine ROY talk. Oh, lordy. Well, anyway, we went over the garden basics, you know, permanent of permanent pathways perfect soil grid, planting trellis succession, planting and the garden notebook the all important guard notebook. But one of the things I didn't talk about didn't have quite enough time to the garden plan, and I have fifty four by four beds. A couple of four by eight bits that are extra deep us for specialty crops like Dicon radish or the great big carrots. You know, that, you know, the super long ones and things like that that that need a little extra room. You know, sometimes I plant my potatoes in there to you know, because I'll plant them deep then hill him. You know? So the extra depth in the bed is big help. But most of my boxes are just a four by six. I'm sorry. Four by four bed. That's made out of a two by six this last year. I replace them after pool boy two thousand five. Yeah. So yeah, it's five or six years anyway should get about. Oh, we got a caller. All right. Let's talk to norm in Bristol, norm. Are you doing? Well. Good. Thanks. How about yourself after bad waiting for the weather to ease up a little bit? So I didn't get back in garden. Funny. You talked about the Jani sheet. Yeah. And I had a note here to ask you about perpetual, spinach. And really, yeah. I heard that they had it. Yeah. I don't know. I looked the other day, and I couldn't find it. But you know, it's they probably do is so great. I would be surprised and maybe by a different name anyway. Okay. I'll check into that place. I shop at down here in Middlebury is a lot of Johnny sheets. Last week. There wasn't men that called in about the loan tined fork. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when I was young my grandfather, and my father used to do a lot of hang and we did it with a dump rake and horses. And one thing that, you know, once you pull the lever on the dump rake you had to win raw. Yeah. Right. So this line longtime for our grandfathers Holly had it was three times. They're very long, and we use that to roll the window into a pile. So should load it onto the wagon. Okay. Did you have a rake for the wagon? I mean, not a rake but nose sort of the Amish folks out in Pennsylvania when I lived up there. They had a this. You know, it was a Rick basically Janet was on a. Conveyor that went up and then dumped it right on the wagon. Is that the kind of thing? Who threw him up there? Boy. Oh. Yeah, they're pretty close to the ground. They weren't, you know, something like a modern day chillers you see for hey and stuff like that. Yeah. So then we used to pick up the scattering with a wooden tined rake. My grandfather had probably had fifteen or so wouldn't dowels. Oh, yes. Sure. I've seen those I still got a couple of those. But that's what we used to do that one of my first jobs, and then I graduated up to rolling Wayne rose. And then I got graduated up to actually being on the dump rate. Yeah. Just a graduation thing. The one of the other things that I had is on my note list was is it could I side dress garlic now or should I've done it when I planted it in the fall definitely you can now. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And it's it's good time, particularly with all those rain and stuff, and it's really starting to put out my my car like is up six inches. Now. Some of the varieties two I'll have one more question. Well, first of all on the perpetual, spinach. I have another note care near near that note of mine for for the perpetual. And I think there's two different types. One call iceberg and one column about it really nice bird, Nevada, and which catalogs are those in. I don't know because I don't I have got a catalog. I'm going to have to go back and actually dig. Get out from pile kit. Catalogs. Gotten to do. I just had one because they keep all those usually. Yeah, they did send me want. So I'm going to check that out. I don't know if I got that from that catalog, or I got it from a person that I may have talked to about it. But. The other Guilford cross turn up. Have you heard of that go filter guilt? Feather. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Okay. Efi ATS year. Okay. And that's from fed federal. Yeah, that's right. And the it is actually a cross between the turn up in a in a really big technically from from what I've read about it. And that was he when when he first started selling those he would cut the top in the in the bottom off. So that you couldn't grow. He was pretty protective of with the with his costs. They're pretty good. Well, they are. They are very good matter of fact, one of my neighbors, Peter, and he he made him he prepared him. Just like, you would mashed potatoes. Ask you. They were in there were there were smooth and creamy and delicious, they had no, you know, sometimes rutabagas all those can have kind of a oh a strong flavor. You know, but these are very good. Before your. Yeah. Yep. Because mostly because they can be you know, sort of Harry and Rudy not as bad as a scenario Acharya anything like that. But yeah, that's that's got that off color off white skin on it. And it's a little tougher. So okay. Try to get hold of those two things and have a little longer spinach season. I've got some coming up now by planted last fall network. Great, though, does usually keep the animals out of it. Arrive it's around here. I think they've learned the climate. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks for one of the. Yeah. Sure. The show I'm glad you're back on good. And and meet glad it's that time of year. Get any snow tonight. Oh, no, let the snow com. It'll be ad for man fertilizer. That's what they say. I've heard that. All right. How good day? Thank you. Calling lines are open at two four four one seven seven seven and eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five this program made possible by a number of fine sponsors, and let's hear from a couple of our clients as we had toward part two of in the garden, and it's back in the garden with Peter Burke. Yeah. So just searching online to see if I can find any other sources of that perpetual, spinach. But it was only the fed coasts, and the bakers that I could find it on. I think that they're I don't know there's some other ones that should just never quite know. You know, if they really are. It says they have it on Amazon. There you go. Can't you buy on? Right. As another one called rare sees, but I actually think that's that's another name for the baker's. So anyway, if you wanna try it, look it up, and it's well worth well worth trying to find unmatched really gonna call Janis. I'll let you know next week. And and see they are high mowing have something like that. And they just call it a dozen different name. You know, that's that happens fairly often. And because the there was a another another website thing called it leaf beat. The band would play the monkey. The beatles. Leave people's. Well, we've we've seen a few of those day. Well, it's funny. One of the ladies the class today was was talking about she had literally hundreds of profit, and it reminded me of you. And I have one photograph, and it's a it's a very simple lightweight frame that fits right over the four by four bed, and it's square, you know, so it's four foot by four foot square probably about two feet high. And then it's all covered top bottom insides, not bottom. Sorry, all the four sides in the top with. Chickenwire? And so that is a pretty bulletproof it wouldn't work for chipmunks. But it would definitely definitely works for the larger critters, I think chipmunk can go through the chicken to wire you'd need to use a hardware cloth to keep the chipmunks up. But you can if you really need to you can create that. Well, what I've been calling the fortress, right? You have to have sort of a fortress mentality. Oh, you got another caller. And is that Jim Jim in Brookefield? Tim's nice to nice to talk to you. What's going on? Friend that I can jersey that you should do a cold frame. Yeah. Yeah. I've never done one myself. And I was wondering I've never heard you mentioned because they're got practical here or. No might Miley objection to cold frames is that it's is kind of an art form. You have to be able to open it up when the weather turns of sunny, warm and several times in my experience with a cold frame. Is that I because I you know, I work a regular, you know, forty fifty hour week. I would leave. I would see looked like it was snowing and raining we'd go to work and leave it down. And it would, you know, come out sunny, and then burn up everything and there's that took a few times. But if you can you know, if you can tend to it occult friends of our very effective, I know the the woodchuck series. He uses those fair amount for you know, for growing things early on. But you know, it it's something that you have to have the time to tend to watch over them. It's not really unlike a lot like a like a greenhouse. You know, greenhouses is something that you have to tend to it can get too hot as well. As too cold. I know I had heirloom tomatoes in one of my greenhouses and they produced fruit right along until about August. And then they just stopped setting any fruit. And it was too hot in there. You know, was it was over eighty five degrees in this too. Hot for tomato. So, you know, yes, there there can be very very useful tour tool for early early on. Small when you don't just put a spinach babies some radishes in what? Yep. Absolutely. Just makes you have a stick handy that you can open it up enough that it doesn't get too hot. That's gonna. A window frame and hinges on it. And I tried one of those solar things, but oddly enough, those solar bents don't work. Well in cold weather, just when you think you need them. They're really more for greenhouse when it in the summer when it gets too hot. It'll open up window. It's not really for cold weather. Thank you very much. Thanks. All right. And so we have Brenda in Huntington and ORs L next up. Brenda Brenda, Brenda. Could you talk a little bit about scab and potatoes? Hope I don't feedback here. I, you know, I do rotate my potatoes and his sort of goes back and forth. So that and then for the first time, I got scab and my potatoes. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that. The. Come in. The common thing with. The the creates at least the one that I've heard the most of using freshman Moore. Okay. And and that there are scabbard system potato varieties. And so it's a if it's a, you know, a big problem for you. Then you might want to just look a little closer for variety that that is scab system. But also, I don't know if you if you're using freshman Moore. Sometimes it's caused by a streptococcal infection. That's generally that is what it is. Which? And you know, scam funny because it's more of a cosmetic than it is and in the fiction in a sense. It isn't like, you know, like a late light that ruins the crop. It just more or less. It looks bad has words. I just kind of brush the potatoes could try to get this much of the jerk out of little divots, and then just ate him. Anyway, exactly break. I mean, sometimes when I make my potato Lukes. The league soup. I peel them in sometimes I don't and but for the most. P H play a factor. They say that you you want. You wanna more alkaline was ph higher than five point five, which I you know, most most gardens are like that. But that would be something that it would be useful test kit for because sometimes you have a more civic soil than than you think. And sometimes it's more alkaline than you think we sort of get in the habit of putting lime in. So sometimes it, you know, it's a little too. Alkaline. What what is would ask is that until? Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna hang up if you are talking about this. 'cause my I'm cooking my lunch, and I don't want to burn it. I will be ready. So much for calling breath. I'm such sometimes. I'm sorry about that. Burn to really I'm gonna go over Prentiss. So make a double. We we get around here. Well, it is lunchtime. And I haven't anything since coffee this morning. So. And we have L in Williams. Tom. The host number on my lames my lawn last year during the drought. What I need is the best recommendation for grassy here in Vermont. What did you say the the what did number close crows? Really? Oh, they just ripped me apart. What how well that's actually from my deck. I was watching one and it brought back a patch about two square foot. Yeah. That's didn't believe that. They were that strong to do that. That's the president what kind of grass is it. I mean is it a specific like it was just regular common grass or? Congress. I guess I'm here for thirty years from now they did the graphs for me. But I did put one patch in yellow, but it will eventually turn green. I have no idea what that gross works. But. What do you have in mind for grass here? Well, frankly, I would just go to where blue seal and say, okay, what's your most common? You know, what works well. And they have. Mix that has a little clover in it a little festivus a little bit of. And it's a it's a good mix. And we use it quite a bit. When when the plow comes, you know to do our. Usually peels up. If you a few spots where we have to regard. But you know, I I would look a little closer. And see if there isn't a lot of grubs in there because I'm not sure I'm not sure what they're going for is the grass sort of a victim of something else. More. Are they have you been able to observe to see if maybe they weren't going for grubs in there? I have re patched it and so on but be team back in the did it again, and I'm going to have to put up making scarecrows too. Yes. Whether they work or not. And you you might just try to distract them like with the corn or something like that that they that they might get distracted with to to leave your other stuff alone. But I don't I would also look to see if there isn't watch him a little carefully and see if they're actually, you know, digging in and swallowing up grubs because that that could be the problem. But crows just ask anyone who grows corn of the the crows really do love corn? Then they'll they'll they'll eat a lot of corn out of a field. No question about that. I don't want to attractive to from here. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So is there. How long are they usually there? Good question probably early in the morning, but I have seen them about ten o'clock in the morning and the results smack then I opened the door wimp will be absolutely. Well, you must have a rooster. Rookery nearby. You know, I didn't realize this. But they they all head to one rookery. You know, look, you know, centrally located where they all fly to it night, which I didn't realize, but yeah, I was trying to think of any other way because with the grass it's not like you could throw, you know, protection over it or anything like that. And you don't have a dog. I do I have a little rest girl. Yeah. Well, you know, you might wrestle with a black puppet. And see if. Encourage your because well, you know. Trusting you talking about look ridiculous. I have they probably three hundred years up the road. From me hidden day comes sweetly, destroyed his lawn. There must be a rookery close by for for you to have them any crows. And yeah, I would try to find something I'm trying to think of anything that that would not attract them. But usually like a crabgrass has actually a very hardy root system, you know. And it's I mean, it's thick like spaghetti, really. And I would guess if they're doing if they're doing anything it must be that. There's a that former grass I would try to, you know, since since it's all well, you're going to have to try if you things I would put down a couple of sheets of black plastic and try a couple of different kinds of grass as well. As the the mixed one that I was talking about and see, you know, see which one C which one they don't like. I was thinking about clover take that that would be too, much or clover. Yeah. That's a big part of the that. They call the conservation. Knicks. Okay. I'll talk to to let me know callback with you. We'll we'll have a good day Bye-bye. Thank you are program is in the garden with Peter Burke your phone calls. Always welcome. And we are program to our find sponsors. And let's take this break right now to hear from them. And once again for our final fifteen minutes. This addition we go back to Peter Burke into garden final fifteen minutes about. We we stretch. Calling. If you have a definite point to make we wanna leave your midst. Well, I wanna go back to Brenda little bit. Because there was a couple of things that we touched on. But I'd like to go back to definitely do a soil test. Because the it it it's unusual for the soil in Vermont to be alkaline. That's that's unusual. So before you actually treated you wanna make sure now Ed in his book always swore by using. You know, fall leaves in his garden where he was going to plan his potatoes. He said that was a assure that was the best potatoes. You ever get is when you, you know, stock up the bed with with leaves some people will use like pine needle too. But his his e score by the the the the tree leaves, you know, maple leaves or whatever and you just. Either put them on top or tournament in the first six inches. The other thing is in in. This is common problem for all gardeners. Is that they're more likely to get scab if the soil is dry, and it's it's a is a tricky business because you may say, oh, well, we had this rain today. But you don't always get the penetration that you need more or less. It needs the water needs to get down to the roots of the plant and not necessarily make the plant wet or the top of the soil with. So even if you had a rain like today, you wanna actually Berle your finger down in see if it's dry down below and that in because the potatoes are grow so deep, you know, sometimes the watering isn't complete enough isn't deep enough. So this this is the dry soils also one of the causes scab. So put. Put together that and you know, you could there's they recommend using, you know, some people recommend using the solver to acidify the soil, but that's that's kinda hit or miss because a lot of times when you're all plant potatoes in the next year. I'll plant the radishes there and the radishes like a, you know, a seven on the on the CPA kale. And so you don't necessarily want to sit if I your soil, you know, on a permanent basis. Okay. That's all I had to say. And you've got somebody here dick from Waterbury. Hey, dick. Good. Thanks. How about yourself? Good. When you are transplanting your starts witty use material for material. Yeah. You use a I've been using sometimes the potting soil and compost Knicks -ture or just playing compost will sort of depends on what it is. Because the rule of thumb is Pineville fell doesn't have anything really to fertilize. This just it's only just for sprouting the seed once the seat is up. You have to either feed him with a liquid, you know, like a fish and seaweed and like with a tomato you'll want to move that into a larger pot. But if it's just lettuces than you can move it outside, then you move it outside. So everything starts with a with the basic germination mix. And that's just Pete most for Mika late. Pearl light. And I think a little bit of lime in sometimes wedding agent. That's just you're straight germination mix. There's nothing in there that that feeds the plant. So so after that when you put him in a larger pot where do using well, then you using a grow mix, you know. And whether it's all of the well, grow solar has a great grow mix, and it does has some compost in it. So that you know, you don't want to overdo it on the compost or anything 'cause you get lug leggy sets. But it does need some nutrition and you'll need to feed them even if there's a little compost in that mix. So you need to feed him. Like the same thing with the Fisher motion or fish seaweed. I do I kinda cut that down. And when I water my kind of water with that mixture. So let me ask why are you asking are you having a problem because it's just you know, if you have a lot of starch, which I do it takes a lot of material when you're transplanting new, absolutely. And I've been to grow compost and picked up a bucket of you know, a couple of buckets accomplished, but I see the also have the the garden compost. So basically was difference. Then actually quite a few different levels of compost and one is, you know, actually, I'm not even sure they sell a termination mix, which is has no compost in it whatsoever. But they have a couple of grow mixes. So you want the one, that's you know, let's see what do they call it? I can't remember the name of it. Anyway. Well. It's it's the. It's a starter mixtures like a German nation. But I think it has the compost in it. And that's the one that you want when you go up there just ask them which one to transplant into and they can tell you. But even that, you know, you still have to keep up with the fertilizer because there's that much in there. You know, it's it's none of the and that should have a, you know, peat moss. It should still have her Mickey light. And and but it'll probably have a manure something. So that way, you're you're beyond the they're large enough that you want have problems with damp off, you know. And that's the reason you start with you terminated mix is that your if there's too much nutrients or micro micro about logical activity in the soil, then you're more likely to have a problem with damp off. So that's why sometimes people will call a germination mix sterile Knicks, and it's you know, not sterile like operating. Room, but it doesn't have any dirt or any compost in it that could create a problems with damp off once they get larger, you know, they're they're not that susceptible. And so you can you know, that's when you start your stuff that has biological activity. Look composter in things like that. Talking earlier on cold frames and four mine. I put my person up here couple of weeks ago and things are really doing great in it. But what I did is rather than going down every day and kind of making sure is open. I just put in a stick in east corner. Just to let some air through with you with your certainly if I was going to be really warm like spend a couple of days on open it up. But otherwise, it just let it go like that. And fine is long as I mean, if you know, you're gonna get a hard frost, you know, then then you need to close it up. And that's like what I was pointing out is that you know, they they work. Well, as long as you, you know, you make adjustments as needed because you know, it does it will literally break, your heart go and find all them burnt to a crisp. Because you, you know. Didn't realize this was coming out one afternoon, right? All right, dick, thanks for the call. And I appreciate it. And so, hey, what what are you growing? Anyway, if you have all transplants. I've got radishes be let us I mean. They're all I expect I made in have radishes within a couple of weeks. There you go with. I got a good start on them. Good. I can taste them. Now. Yep. Thanks. Yeah. I did check on the grow compost websites. Did you they've got of course, there compost as their principle product, but they have mixtures and the grow seat is. They're starting what they called grow seat, which is the compost. Pate moss for make you light minerals. And then it goes to grow grow garden, which is they describe it as a rich mix of grow compost. Peat moss and are living topsoil. So they have various grades of of products, and they do have topsoil, and they do have for patio, grow, growing, etc. Multiple. Yeah. Certainly if if transplanting is at all confusing. They certainly not only are are experts in the area. But they've got big bats that you can fill up those bags and take it with you. Yeah. And boy if you wanna see a beautiful garden just go in and when you drive up the driveway on the right hand side, they got the beautiful permanent bids there, of course, the probably is probably pretty easy to find a little compost there. I always remember the time that they were moving compost around with a big back. Oh, and I I just needed a couple of bags for a couple of containers that I was driving a convertible with the top down. And you said he asked me what filling up for you. This like a whole new twist on filler up, isn't it? Probably if he had done it. I probably just would have planted petunias of the most interesting convertible. Just park to burqa under the the eaves, right? Gets a regular watering. Yeah. It's interesting. I in that's a it's a great website. The the grow compost, and it's just G R O W compost dot com. And if you look under their products, they have grow compost, grow garden, topsoil and patio mixed for. For containers and stuff. And so, you know, you'll see. Oh, yeah. They do have a seed mix. That's just for for germination. So. Yeah, that's that's a great place to start right there. And. So we have we got anybody else on. No, I guess. Hitting wrap things up and no time limit on you either. So so toast to don't leave wasn't mid-sentence thought really would like to hear what people are growing this new that they've tried for the first time, and I I mentioned growing Toma tia's once and that was inspiration. I was over at richer whistles played the Cape farm, and they had Toma tia's. And I thought well what the heck I've never I've never tried those. And I just I the spot I had for them was a trellis. And I thought well, you know, looks a lot like a tomato. And and then I had another spot. It was on the ground. And I found out that the growing them on the trellis was by far a much better way to go because the ones on the ground that have you ever seen the tomatoes? They had that like paper rapper. Oh, yeah. You know? In fact. I I grew on my first year without even knowing really what I would do with them or whether they would grow or not they they group beautifully by. And I wish I had a trellis. Yeah. Because if they're on the ground, they tend to in my garden, they tend to get the ear weeks climb in that paper. And then they, you know, they're they're all over the place. And then they also tend to have problems with with other critters if they're on the ground. So I I liked the trellis quite a bit. It's it's kind of funny. They have these really long stems the come out the sides, and I've tried a couple of different ways. But generally, I'll I'll to manage them. And so generally, I'll just sort of tie those onto the onto the trellis as well. So it looks like quite a mass of green there, you know, and they will produce during the summer, and you can pick some. But usually at the end of the summers when I do most of that. And then I make this fresh salsa. And I'm telling you Joe, I I'm gonna have. Bring in some in for because I've never bought it in for, you know, and it's you use a sweet like Vidal, Ian with the with the Toma tears and fresh peppers. And then a little bit of how Pena pepper, and then all us, even some celery and chopped the stuff up really fine, like eight inch, you know. And and then I'll do a couple of tomatoes and in I like the red pepper in there, and they put a some ball sin Basan vinegar and some olive oil, and then a little bit of salt in there. And that is the most Alicia FRA salsa. You will have very very good. Well worth it, everything almost everything right out of the garden everything right out of the guard. Yeah. Yeah. And we that was one new thing that I tried that is a keeper we we like those a lot. Well, I thank you, Peter. And we let we'll be back next week in the garden. I'm just trying to check with the with the Red Sox schedule. I do believe we will be it'll be Saturday the twenty seventh and that's today. So so it'll be so four. And the Red Sox will be playing the White Sox in the evening. So there you go. We will be here man for your on. Thank you, Peter questions. Robot? Gonna make this garden. And the wind. Someone bless the. Someone limb from. Rain. In the garden with Peter Burke brought to you during the new hour on Saturdays five vs flower garden shop they have all you need to get started. 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First Wives Club with Caitlin Gill

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Yes Hey Caitlyn what Jamie in case you have gleaned in the past three years. Give you a reference point for what we need it. I just every once in a while just a jolt of Adrenaline to the system. The Bechtel test is never heard of it. I well then start leaving your one-star reviews now. Just kidding. Please don't only MREs do that and they're very good at it. <hes> the Bechtel test is a medium metric invented by cartoonist Alison Bechtel sometimes also called the back to Wallace test in which there has to be a scene in a piece of media where two female identifying characters with names talk to each other for about something other than a man for more than two lines uh-huh dialogue wow. I've can't believe I've never heard of this test before it was holding burp literally that whole sentence and I feel like if you rewind fifteen seconds you'll hear it. You've been burping a lot recently. I've gone full durst I really have I don't know what's going on and just burping and telling lies. I can't stop well. I think that BURP conversation past the Bechtel test so we're after a good start thank you I mean I did mention printers fuck. I mean I think of Robert Durst just kind of genderless. He's more of an idea than a man I think so it does pass if we are saying that Robert. I is an ideology well. He's like a cloud of gas. I see him much like a BURP. There you go there you go and that's why he's so susceptible to them. I'm probably unpacked that <hes> so yeah this is the the Bechtel cast are we are covering a much requested. Oh we've then getting this request since we started the damn cast tech this about three years but we got there we got there today. We're covering the first wife's Club and here to join us in our conversation. A hilarious comedian whose album called major comes August second and you also may remember her from our Butch Cassidy in the Sundance kid episode and our episode on the notebook. It's Caitlyn Gill that's me the other. It's nice to be here. Is You. Earn a strange into down your audio unless that's neatly clipped. It was my dog licking my nose a minute ago Margaret Hot lips ally and the titular dog from my album yes and what a cutie she is accused she really is she's really thriving. Today is hard to do some tricks in the ought not to Brag. She's easy to distract with a treat and that that really begs compliance tiny piece of meat and she'll do whatever I need which is good because I forgot her leash terrible dog owner a key thing. You need to take your dog out of the House. He's a waitress crime that it's about it though that I'm like I guess this is just the dynamic I do leave roughly as much as they can cause. She's honestly better well. She's a strong independent woman. She is a strong independent woman. She knows what she wants and what she wants answers to know where I am and if she's attached to at least she knows and so the the off leash nece it makes her pull the attention this August about my dog because unless you stop me now it is about to be I Apologize Dog Doug. My dog is <hes> women hater yes the one time he was allowed in this podcast studio he chewed through one of the audio cables and D platform the left once again that is hilarious. I really really need to meet this guy. I only known through instagram and I I am. His interest is easier editorials. I'll get bit. I'm in let's go. He also shit and Piss on the floor. The last time he was here he did shit in Piss and chew three and audio cable table and and but he did the day he was here the day Alfred Molina was here and he behaved until literally the Second Alfred Molina left and then he shin pissed against honestly wasn't everybody shitting pissing though as soon as lena left it just everybody's body evacuated doing what we were all thinking. That's true so the first wives club. What is your history with your relationship with the movie I saw in the theaters with my mom who is herself? A first wife. Oh also goes way back goes way back. It's fun to revisit with fresh is certainly Jamie. What about you? I'd never seen this movie. I feel like this movie kind of made like has become more popular again in the past even year so I remember that Ariana Grande Day did a bunch of <hes> first wives club like oh montage with her last album there's like moments inter video where she and her too I think producers or they're singing on the track and they're all wearing the white checketts and the whole bit and I don't know I was excited to see it and and I really enjoyed it wouldn't around what Iran I'm a fan it really was and it starts off in such a dark place at your like <music> and then it just becomes a romp so quickly one of my favorite things in movies. Just period is what actor did the most with their one day onset because there is no question that Stockard channing was on that set day singular day and with that day Oh what she turned to rise to the occasion in the moment. You don't have the full month to shoot. You Ain't hanging around with the ladies the whole time you're in you're out. I bet it was months apart from when the other three ladies were doing the had nothing to do totally different team like director on the phone and actually New York L._A.. It was just an incredible. I love spotting those performances. I mean mean turned to scream if you really need entry level understanding of the value of having a star onset day performance berry with having her Liev Schreiber and scream three screen too but it's so good when you have someone brilliant set for one day what they turn out is doc best scenes of the movie it really is the Gravitas the sadness ache folks she does by suicide Yes yes and that is the a wild wild inciting incident and perhaps confusing to say what ensues is a romp but it's simply the truth is true yeah all right. What's your history Kale? I hadn't seen this movie for the first time until about a year ago because it's one of those movies that I knew we had gotten a lot of requests for and I figured we would do it someday so I was like maybe I'll just check it out early. You know out loud yeah so I watched it <hes> that one time about a year ago and was like this certainly is a romp and <hes> I don't. I don't know why I hadn't seen it before. I ten minute came out so I wasn't necessarily the target demographic but are you the child of a first wife no my mom is <hes> yeah. There's no easy. I realized that I ask that question because I'll tell you whatever you want to know about my family and it's horrible names. You realize that other people don't as often as that question tumbled out of my mouth so tell me about your parental marital status. They are married it. Should they be up Lori. She listens to the podcast anyway. My mom as I mean I guess she she is a first wife but also was I mean she's a first I wipe out. There hasn't been a second one yet but she's no longer a wife. That's the first one that's what she's the first wife she's the first one and <hes> she's she's I would say she's medium bitter about it yeah a pretty healthy and it wasn't she's not. I don't think she's in the club quite we're in Sour Orange territory not to Philemon no yeah they they talk friends yeah so should I just dive into the recap and then we'll go from there. Let's do it all right so we open in nineteen. In sixty nine. There are four best friends who are graduating from college. They are you a soundtrack here like a little but I can't get my mouth guitar to work with a sixty sound. I can't Oh sure I can't I don't have it. My All watchtower tower isn't isn't there. Ain't I was about to come in with some Austin powers music but that's also it's is it turns out okay so the friends are Cynthia any elise and Brenda and then we cut to the nineties and that's the end of the beginning like an awesome power over this movie is basically Austin powers. Yes so we're now in the nineties and Cynthia is distrupt and it's implied that she dies by suicide right right <hes> then we cut to Anne that's Diane Keaton's character. She has been reconnecting with her husband Aaron who she separated from <hes> which makes her daughter Chris disappointed because she hates her. Dad Can relate eight person C comments that I made five minutes ago and Diane. Keaton is really Diane Keaton after her name. Is Anne again any hall Gosh. I'm Mike Lay it on thick white on using she has to be named either Anne or Diane or she won't turn around. She look won't respond like her name was supposed to be Susan but she's brilliant. He's so good in the really I do like to think of her as an inattentive cat like creature just like Diane She's like Oh. I'm not entirely sure she's from the same plane. She's one of those s where I'm like. You are a vessel for an energy from far beyond but it is the most nervous energy I've ever seen. Just try to communicate with with humans on the planet Earth this incredible. This is a great park for her though she's she's throat like seven times. Each one is perfect HARF and I feel like it starts early. Screaming happens really early too early. Then we see Elise Goldie Hawn's character she is an actress <music> who is obsessed with trying to look young so that she can keep getting cast in Hollywood movies <hes> and then we see Brenda Bette midler character <hes> she has a son who's about to have a bar Mitzvah. That's chairs neatly summarized as a Brenda Brenda. Yeah she is Brenda and then they all find out about their friend Cynthia's suicide and the presumed motivation behind it which was that Cynthia's ex-husband this like successful successful Wall Street dude just remarried a younger woman right so any at least and Brenda all reconnect at Cynthia's funeral so then they'll get lunch together and at least in Brenda talk about how both of their husbands left them for younger younger women and then Annie's I like well. I'm still married blood. We are separated and then the keeping out there getting more and more drunk and their lamenting about how we're in full-on boozy white lady Brunch Mo.. We're on top shelf daytime drunk. This is very specific no way it's past two P._M.. At the height of the same does look like they're closing the restaurant but it looks like they're closing the restaurant for lunch to dinner service very right out for that many glasses on the tape and they're just you know lamenting about how everyone sees them as being too old and stuff like that yes so forty-six or forty six and Diane Keaton's mom capes insulting her for this no spring chicken Diane Jeez actress. I forget her name but she's so good. She's a Oh I lean heckert Diane Keaton Small Rake Character. It's terrific from beginning to end. She's one of those perfect old ladies. Who's lips are just lipstick like I'm not sure there's anything underneath perfect flesh tone but she's painted on this justic mouth incredible? She's every scene she steals steals it so any she's been trying to make some personal progress. In therapy at least is in the middle of divorce proceedings from Victor Garber and then she later finds out that <hes> she's being considered for a mother mother role in a movie. This is around the point where I realized that Goldie Hawn's character is basically just Jenna Maroney <hes> when she freaks out about being about I need to be a mother you're like this character is Jenna. Maroney toned down a little the right she used to be married to Victor Garber. Aka Our king are the hero of titanic really which and this really made us realize as we discussed the victor garber more often than not plays a villain which is crazy because his best in most prominent role as being a little sweetie by renters who wanted to be enough lifeboats but was overrule and then he in because that happens he sacrifices his hot dusty. Make him a feeling that he wasn't strong long enough to get more lifeboats on the biggest he wasn't complicit bastard and I'm dead weak-kneed okay so you know we're seeing all these women in their normal worlds. We'll see Brenda and she confronts her ex-husband in a store being like I need money you suck more hand. MORTY Moore denies his new wife Shelley his new wife Shelly played by Jessica Parker shows up and then they go they body shame each other for a while. Oh my Gosh I mean this movie has thinks all women <hes> under thirty five are completely brain dead. I think it's a fun fantasy now like I. I don't even know I hate it but it really is a rule with no exception yeah and unless you're lesbian sensible a college educated lesbian is the exception the role always case and then has been asks her dinner and she assumes that it's because he's decided to recommit to their marriage but issues over that thing about me poisoning his food okay. She slipped that in there now like a weird throwaway Joe Perfect. You're like got to come back right and it just doesn't she's a little time just being his commitment issues you know his fear of of connection and you know yeah. Maybe he got over those but honey the fear that you were poisoning his food. There's no he's not he's not that's on the other side. Maybe a Prequel to the phantom thirty phantom thread. Maybe that <hes> he was into because brilliant advertising after it was actually dangerous sexy. She's seems we're going to get back together but instead he knows that he wants wants a divorce and then any therapists started sex with her. which is the main thing anyone can how whoa yeah? I'm the hotel room. I'm sorry that's happening when talking over that way but I did want to point out that there's one room per road per hotel room and he's he's wearing it through their Nina's thing someone can do immediately before saying I've been cheating on you for three months is have sex with you and then just be like just wanted one last taste and then like anyways anyways on him for eating you out as implied and not happy about the circumstance other per se Caitlyn at least that but I still no bad dog so she finds out that he's been cheating on her with her therapist. Dr Lousy Rosen played by Marcia gay harden because she walks in and this sounds like a wondering podcast the gals get together again and they're you know all furious furious that they're ex husbands have taken them for granted and never appreciate it all they did for them. So the women form the first wives club. That's the name of the movie gets wild. Did I think going into this movie office space. Did I think that they would make an l._l._C. for the first wives club and a super clip Bharti logo. I loved the the full door like nickelodeon style logo. They t shirts so bad at the end that was when I was like wow that's a huge office. They've got an they hired in the bills ain't Goldie Hawn just own yes. They're the privilege the use of privilege of this movie as wild but then at the end the husbands weapons are making out checks to the first wives club which means they've incorporate some way it's on their taxes while yes very wild so they form this club and they come up with a plan to sabotage sabotage their ex husbands lives in relationships so that's their new fulltime job. I love it. I love it. They've also just like I feel like it's rare to find a movie quite this like empowering empowering Lee Petty. It's just like a full on fantasy like yeah we all wish we had limitless money for our various revenge projects right from the revenge exemption a beautiful built in engine unreal thin dumb energy going on expert for getting into it right but oh yeah we're getting nowhere. We're getting goldies plan. I think all these plan is my favorite player. I just love which I love it so I they ask any daughter Chris these sensible people lesbian who's under thirty five to get information hard to tell with a lesbian to get information on any ex-husband Aaron and then at least starts repossessing and selling all the stuff that she and her ex-husband Bill Victor Garber acquired together as Mary couple much to his dismay and then Brenda gets a tip that her ex-husband morty started his business by selling stolen goods so they've all got separate plans to seek revenge they keep calling it justice on their ex husbands and they need the stolen. They need the books to prove that <hes> you know morty is a crook so <hes> party they need a way to get into his new condo or house or whatever so they orchestrate this like interior decorating con to get this high-society Lady Gunilla Goldberg played by Maggie Smith Smith. Yes yes to the Elvis a fourth generation scammer. She's great. She's trying to convince Sarah Jessica Parker character to hire this Guy Do Arto felice. He was an interior decorator greater that Brenda works for they like do this whole heist thing and they sneak into get the documents hijinks ensue. There's like a scaffold angling window cleaning two of my favorite bits of physical comedy comedy just period M._S. first indefinitely the more minor of the two is the office. They're trying to get the papers from is upstairs. Yes which means that they've got a send a staircase and safety. I they all reach for the bandler but because because it's an art deco home the bannister is not sturdily of a fixed the staircase itself it's hanging from wire from this so it just goes everywhere and you like collectively one hundred twenty years almost tumble off the I. It is the best it's all three of them are so like perfectly cast and they're both they're all like really good with physical comedy. They're all screamers. I love it. We are also edness bit of physical comedy that comes right after this near case is preceded by the Best Diane Keaton Scream in the movie where she peaks over the edge of the building and then response with her entire body are all about he makes noise like glasses flick off and then like come back back down Goldie Hawn's like I can do this. I do all my own stunts. She's already over Guardian no problem good and they they have to get down in the window washer thing and every second of that. I just cackles so it's so good it's everything you need to happens. They fall right into the window of the people that they're trying to run from Gordian Shelly Bronson Pinchot however say's nameless just leading them around the apartment whipping them around so they don't see them and then in a floor below of course a couple is trying to make sweet love to be interrupted ladies huge fans. My the call release you look great is that I I mean they established it says fans at least she looks great. I mean when Chris gets pulled in. It's in a lesbian bar I I'd love to put put a button in that absolutely man Dem stopping being in front of the sex having couple just terrific Hewlett Great Katy. I can't hear the two of them to get the husband and the wife so good fun on the documents. They need now so they have they had the same Diane Keaton on that old. Ask computer trying to hack the tax. I was like Damn. Can you don't know how to use a computer and also didn't burning it looked like something they built in paint and then just told her to click around in the paint menu like real careful. Meanwhile Chris and his daughter is like hey mom you should get back in the advertising business so to raise money you to start a business elite cells Anne all the assets that she repossessed from Victor Garber and her marriage and then any sells them at an auction which Sarah Jessica Parker Scherzer is at buying trying everything buying the wrong thing because professor mcgonagall is like by all the wrong things and spend all your like she's she's being a scanner bind a stranger and professor mechanical telling her what to do on either side. I just wrote to I just wrote down on Lacey's named during that because I was like she's a true scam goddess yeah really connecting the dots galaxy brainstorm so the wilder in motion but any is trying to like you know dig into leases ex-husband's Victor Garber kind of deal and pass but can't find anything bad on him which upsets a lease. She's drunk and she's saying some nasty things and Brenda fights back skin things fall apart in the first wives club but then they realize hey we shouldn't be fighting each other. We should be fighting the patriarchy so that refocused their anger back toward their ex ex husbands and then Brenda extorts morty basically puts herself in control of his like electronics business saying like I'm GonNa take everything or I will you out for your criminal activity and then Anne any takes the money that she earned from the auction and buys her ex-husband's advertising agency out from under him <hes> and then at least goes to victor garber her ex-husband and says hey that new girlfriend of yours that actress lady or this is it is sixteen. He's like Oh yeah so they're. They're at a better beat there there but that my favorite part is my favorite. <hes> like pay off of the three is Bette Midler full on kidnapping. Snapping her husband and he she says this is a kidnapping he comes to he's in a meat locker and he's confronted with his tax crimes and you're like this is this is what I wanted in. This is the revenge I was seeking. I also love of whenever Goldie Hawn is like yeah like your. Laurie suggested we liquefied the assets. <hes> here's your half and it's fifty cents. She's old all that stuff today. Qian's character for a dollar so good oh yeah and it's just so good okay so they all have their ex-husband's meet them at their official office of the first wives club and they're like okay we have you here and now you have to pay and they make their ex-husband's Fund a Crisis Center for women that they named after their friend Cynthia <hes> and then they throw a big party and the voiceover narration the Diane Keaton is giving she's talking about how Brendan then Morty. They're probably going to get back together. How at least is in a new hit stage play? She's dating an actor in the play and the Erin her ex-husband was like I'm ready to get back together and then she tells him to drop of dead after the party they're all wearing white business suits and then they start to sing and dance and then the dancing continues onto the street. It's it is inspired. I honestly do cherish that scene. I I never had context for like what that comes at the end of and you're just like Oh. It just fits perfect. We've gotta take a quick break and then we'll come right back. Hey backdoor cast listeners. Do you have boobs and if so are you looking for a place to put them then try third love the broad company that makes bras have have great fits more sizes than most brands and convenient way to shop for them. 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There's so much I mean I think a good jumping off point is just to say right off the Bat <hes> that for all those movies strengths it is about upper-class. Oh my gosh. This is like white feminism movie. Yes it's insane to the point where I was curious about like the historical context of this movie and I didn't do a deep dive on it but this movie comes out in Nineteen ninety-six which is a big moment for Hillary Clinton and I feel like you can kind of feel it in this movie. <hes> this is pre Monica Lewinsky. That'll fan in ninety eight but I feel like the there are some <hes> Hillary Clinton vibes. I felt throughout this movie <hes> Inter and not even in like a negative way but like you do feel the that white feminist vibe through this movie and also says like a predictor of of where things go from there A. D. Patriot of younger women this permeate the movie but just I mean right off the bat we recognize this is a movie that comes from the most most privileged place a woman come from indeed. Yes if I had just seen this now. I couldn't connect because I can't. I don't care about rich people or any of their problems right so sorry if you're rich and you're listening and there's a lot of media with great performances and brilliant characters in the stakes to Mir just also false because they're rich and I think because I saw this early on it helped so I had a connection to it I think actually in a few ways. This movie gave me an unrealistic picture of the world because I just sort Lord of accepted that like yeah you know you'll have one rich friend one year friends will marry a banker. It's not weird to know someone famous and like you know you'll be fine right yeah. brandis character is the one that you know. My family is the most like an an apartment Godwin Goldie Hawn steps into Brenda's apartment for the first time so fucking good. I've never been here apartment. It's so real I love the way the condescending way they've rich people described normal people like that's exactly the Brenda Zayrda whereabout skirts and you know the end is that her ex is still rich so she'll be fine yeah and I think this was a simpler more complicated time where this this was like a bold picture of four women and I'm really glad that it looks dated in the ways that it does right because I just means that there's been progress right so there is like I'm glad this movie exists. I think it's definitely <music> generates direction that you know misfires in some ways and plenty of which will talk about <hes> but like it is this was like a huge surprise of a hit of a movie which I think also speaks to like how few movies is are made for women's specifically like older women. There's a huge market for this shit. We've this had a thirty million dollar budget and made back one hundred eighty one million dollars huge huge hit and it's wild that there's not first wife club to Dan Watch something to grow and not get pulled back. Although I think I spoke a remake into existence my apologies universe. Let's all right it. Let's get right I I I would push gently back against the idea that this movie deeply hates younger women because all of these stars were younger stars like these women who became famous forty-six this is reflecting back. You know some of them were famous as teen. Some of them would have been that sixteen year Gerald who might affect director like not you know what I'm saying yeah. I think it's looking backwards. I think it's a commentary on how we being Hollywood or the media where people feel about older women that AH total. It's a reflection back. 'cause there's no way to me that Goldie Hawn reflecting on being an aging actress. I don't think she hates her younger. I don't think bad hates her younger self. I do think there's a weird empty target for just those like the idea of young women woman who sleep with older married guys just sort of this fist blob in the movie in the only take shape twice and they are both total idiot ditz. That's that's what I'm more courtesy. I don't think it has anything to do with the actresses or anything like that but the way that the younger characters are written are to be vapid absolutely stupid and will fall for anything is shelly stupid he or she this artist one in she's definitely not the smartest on the EH. She's harder than most of the guys in the movie. She's smarter than Victor Garber as she smarter than most of the ladies. I think she's got a number. I think she's reading a world and I mean she's taking a cynical perspective from it. Her character's was obviously an airhead she says Duh and snapper gum but I think an accident act and she like the scene where she and Morty have a fight and she just flips her hair turns around and get some UNZIP. Her dress right is like while you're tool belt is full and you know how to use those how every tool I mean compliments sure I mean yeah l.. E. Is a total idiot. Wait No Shelley's the Sarah Jessica Parker who's the Elizabeth's canonical sixteen eighteen so I really like I mean she was that ally. I feel like her birth certificate. They were trying to make something up on him right. Oh I don't know I feel like the watch I grew confused Bachelor. Okay Yeah Yeah I to me. It's more of a the main women were focusing on just resent that their former husbands have all left them for younger women yes because you know these are shitty men who value youth over anything else in a woman so I just I understand it's the the writing misfires kind of needlessly piling on other women to make the carrot the younger characters over the top materialistic and stupid. I mean in the ninety S. Let's were still sluts right. I mean which this movie makes not have been an opportunity in that time to like make those fully-fledged characters because they're man's dealers and that's well yeah and that's like such a stock doc characteristic. I was thinking back to like the new and also the new wife is a stock character like the younger woman that like I mean I'm thinking if he's married Trap Yeah Meredith from the parent trap is like peak villainous new wife trying to and it's it's like I understood where that sound of Steph Ma they demand that you call them by their whole. Oh I never never any even though that nickname is longer I mean there's a lot of things about this movie. That is is like because this is a feminist text but it is like a very very nineties feminism very white feminism texts because you know there's still a whole lot of body shaming across the whole spectrum like body shape and size mental health in suicide are not really addressed responsibly. I would say that there's there's quite a bit of slut shaming the only women in this movie where people of Color while there's hardly any to begin with if there are they are in in either service roles or extras in the background who don't get any lines or significance. I mean pretty much the gamut of <hes> nineties goto thoughtless mistakes are definitely made aid but I wouldn't one moment if we can. I mean you just named basically Oliver talking points. I'm GONNA choose one. <hes> the ways that <hes> bodies are treated in this movie. I think that there's some good moments and there's some some shitty shitty moments a good moment I thought was towards the end when they have this blowout like ten minute long argument. It's like Bette midler and Goldie Hunter especially great in this scene and Goldie Hawn keeps on poking poking at Bette midler about like not looking the way that she wants her to look and having like a body that isn't a size to like Hollywood body and Bette midler snaps at her and gets really angry throws Rosa Golden Globe which you don't usually get to see like the person who is being talked down to yeah by the quote Unquote Haughty get a chance to respond respond with anger and like you get that like cool catharsis assists and like that like I didn't expect that to happen because they are like subtly unsubtly piling on to Bette Midler appearance in the way she styled and all this throughout the movie and then but then she gets throw buck and Golden Globe about it and is like leaving the fuck alone and like I that I liked that school that's either right before right after at least says to Brenda. What did you ever win Pie eating contest yeah no wonder under Brenda? That's when you throw a golden glove then call the that's old and it hits a picture of Goldie Hawn does one Goldie Hawn goes to clean it up the pictures like a portrait of her laying and smoking and it's just Goldie hands standing there in like the same standing poses cigarettes so good for one perfect shot twitter. Get right on that because it is too good. It's it's IT'S I. I like there. Were a lot of moments in that argument that I thought were like really cool and Cathartic and not what you normally get to see an also <hes> in in spite of the fact that this movie is coming from a big place of privilege. All these actresses are fifty and over in this movie comes out which is extremely irregular especially for movie to be made like this and also to be this successful and granted. I mean they go to like some big names to make that happen but they're all over fifty and they're presented for for the most part as very sexually viable characters with agency access to grind etc and that is cool. You don't get that a lot yeah this cool. I do think also that the conversation about bodies in this movie can't be pulled out of the context of the ninety s in which it lives. Oh the ninety s like the world is positive time like just the worst of the like bones being Super Fashionable Bible where Sarah Jessica Parker. It looks like it's just painful. It's funny when Jason Moana had his dad Bod`ed picture get made fun of recently in <hes> it was a believe it was a female director came to his defense and was just like actually having APPs for movies like terribly unhealthy like what it actually takes. Is this like deprivation diet and it's not it's not good actors will ask if they have to do apps and like the should get paid more because it's horrible rebel and I feel like there's a conversation that didn't happen about what women had to do to be Sarah Jessica Parker in that movie like it's why I like. I think she serta Jessica Parker too smart play a character that stupid without knowing the kind of stupid she was. This was a little bit smart like there's a cheese just not allowed to be anything but a puff of air and I wonder what her first club movie would be. If you got to see her later you know because you're trapped in whatever youth says you have to be in some ways like flashing back to the sixties and sixty nine graduating from college you were away and you know Sarah Jessica Parker character and her herself. We're just trying to be away in the fucking nineties right. She's so small in this movie Louis and it gets commented on because Bette midler characters. Is something like Oh look at you. The bulemia has certainly paid off. She's body shaming her for her. You know anus tiny nece and then start Jessica Parker comes right back with some. I'm like fat shaming comments directed at Bette midler characters so it's it's almost like women can't please anybody including h right I I think I genuinely think if this movie got rebid at which I hope it doesn't please just producing in an original story but if this movie was updated for twenty nine hundred I would be very surprised if the first wives and second wife didn't end up speaking to each other finding common ground and then I mean it would be cooler if the second wives were brought in on it and they could just be six six deep when they when they you know spike on the on the guys because these guys get punished every way but morally that's that's the other moment where it's like so so white privilege that you're like well. There's like oeste credentials and some really nice sculptures. There's an argument for I'm pretty sure all three husbands to be or maybe not maybe not Diane Keaton's husband but at least two of the husband's could be put in jail but that is not even really really references like well. There's no way that's going to happen. Whitish literally child Molester like one is a child molester. One is has been like committing fraud and stealing and they're like well. We're just GonNa you're just going and a half. Pay Me off for this. I mean you're not gonna go to jail. You're a wealthy white business owner but fair. I think it in like wherever you are if you don't send your paycheck to prison like the fucked up thing about the trajectory of this movies these women's fate is still title to their ex-husband's. <hes> Mardi going to jail doesn't help morty going to jail doesn't help Bette Midler so yeah. She's yes. She hates him around into to write her l._L._C.. The First Wives Club blows my remind us now. I understand what you have to be have a check filled out to like something. That doesn't your name Yes. It takes a lot of work. It does have gotten someone yeah I mean come on. I mean all have account their movie home alone own. A shortlist of other movies made me think that you live in big houses when you grow up yeah like you just like have money. Just be us like have upper-middle-class Jed worked out for our. There's all or not yeah the Brat pack movies like you just have stuff yeah you know and look at us now. It's accurate. We all have totally apartments in cars kind of yeah. We'll have a car there there yeah there is I mean I feel like just place this every like rom com or any genre. Jason is just like at cheapest like upper middle class but these women are low Super Pie. They're like a Bette midler poor but then you're like no she's not. They're all living in New York York. She has like how like it's everyone's fine. She goes money to pay for her. The band that he wanted at her son's Bar Mitzvah that was the only thing more he was willing to pay for was that yet naturally on a little guilt boy that sun character did I put a lot of myself in him upon first viewing gosh it is hard yeah. The whole scene where it's like Youtube won't even talk to each other like pin ear buddy like like and at the end it is it is a cruelty. The last seen in that movie should be edited out for children of divorce if you are like the morning together dancing in their son is like watching watching from across the dance floor that is so fucked up just like sitting next to my mom in the theater. Just like hat ain't gonNA happen. Kid doesn't sound like that there. I mean I'm bored yeah and to continue the the body shaming the other <hes> major besides <hes> kind of the the body shaming takes place towards Bette Midler is the body shaming takes place towards Goldie Hawn where again I feel like we get a very nineties treatment of like attitude towards plastic surgery. Where Goldie Hawn's character for the most part is like fuck you? I'm doing you know takes takes the I think even reference share because share was like one of the only people who would admit to having plastic surgery and and was like really into it and you fuck off shears the best <hes> but Goldie Hawn's character is like she'll be dodgy about it and then she'll be like okay so yes I've had work done in Bubba bloods for my job bubble Blah because and you can't I mean I mean it's especially for where her character's Arcus. She is trying to remain relevant and in a business that it kills older women right <hes> and so it makes sense and Diane Keaton characters like Oh. I don't no no you're getting stitched up and book line. You know it's treated as very a key or like taboo or like the way it's treated inter doctors like if I put anymore college in your lips you'll look like either like put your mouth on opole drain. He looked really really really. I mean he's there are some body horror elements introduced with the plastic surgery. I don't really mind it when the doctor says his job to advise on plastic surgery but but the the way that the the other first wives treated at least at first is like is literally. I mean again product of its time. That's how my mom would have talked about plastic surgery. It's exactly it's why yanked that movie is self aware light yet it. It's having a conversation station. We have about plastic surgery but it's having with the people who are experiencing it. We're not standing in the grocery store looking at a magazine and being like disk. We get that scene but then we get the pushback. The follow-through Goldie Hawn gets to talk to you. She's not on the magazine magazine covers. She's at the table and she gets to tell you that she did this not because of your tickets at the grocery I'll bit because you won't look at the magazine cover unless she does. She says that Midler saying you call me fat but you ask for the whole world role to be this crazy skinny like both of those are reflections conversations we have and I see I saw it then like none of it feels punching down to me aside from the privileged whiteness. I felt differently about the body shaming parts because because I feel like all of these actresses are under the Lens and have been for so long that it's active commentary across the board I mean I think the dudes do a really good job of letting the ladies have this movie. They're kind of just vessels but every lady is sort of a comment on how Hollywood treats women down to the women of color who are only in service roles. I think there's a self awareness in this film. That's like the reason that their color in take credit for that but I see what you're saying but I do think the movie is aware of that like in one thousand nine hundred sixty weren't gonNA make this movie without four white women who are married to white men right so I and they weren't GonNa make it without a beautiful star in Goldie Hawn's part and they weren't GonNa make it without a huge name in Bette midler part like the same constraints that the movie talks about are applied to the movie like I mean like Goldie online where she's like. They're only three ages for women in Hollywood Babe District Attorney and driving mistakes yes great and she's right and she's right and those rules still apply today. Yeah do movie. I think did the best it's could to flip over conventions asking it to do. All of them is a lot in one thousand nine hundred six but maybe we can observe like what it did. Try to comment not weep but like watching it again. I did feel like some of it is commentary. In some of it is oversight. You're right. They could have actors of color. I think they cast it really white. I think I mean it's like we're not coming from a place of like this is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. It's it's more of I think we're coming from a place like this is present is aww upon or not and I think with the body shaming some of it is commented upon and some of it isn't it is for jokes. It's cheap cheap jokes and some of them are stronger than others but the ones that are less strong certainly don't carry the whole social commentary angle that I feel was President Soma bit like right. I think that the Bette midler stuff is great because there is a payoff and she gets to respond in the same thing like you were saying for the way that people are Kinda snipping at Goldie Hawn for being plastic and having a lot of work done in like she gets it's the opportunity to respond and just like explained and we understand where she's coming from and then there's a few examples where I feel like that it it skews cheap and it doesn't happen. <hes> I agree. <hes> let's take another quick break and then we'll come right back for more discussion Jordan Caitlyn from the Bechtel cast here to tell you about buffy breeze comforters buffy created the best comforter that I have ever slept with and trust me. I've slept with a lot of comforters in my day. Okay Fun fact about me. I do not sleep very well and to get a good night's sleep. I need conditions to be perfect. 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Promo Code Bechtel for twenty dollars off sweet dreams <music> teams and we're back when next one thing that I thought was also like something that I hadn't really heard disgust in a movie before was like one of the commonalities of all four of these women including Cynthia anthea is that their husbands became so successful because of the support or some other driving force of their wives that is not something that ever really gets discussed and probably like one of the big strengths of this movie. We're like it's <hes> stated that Cynthia's husband became this big successful guy because of her connections <hes> any was the one taking care of their daughter and taking care of everything at home and super providing for her her husband while he was building his <hes> AD agency Brenda was working the counter at morty stores and doing all the on the ground stuff and elise was the one who is <hes> originally gave her ex like a screen partner and and in all of his opportunities in Hollywood and then he immediately became a dickhead ditch. She's like I taught you everything you know about films. That's so cool I I like. I love that they get the chance to like air their grievances about it because it's like yeah yeah that's fucking horrible and it happens all the time at the time yeah and it's and it's the movie we don't. It's the win the characters we don't make movies about every movies about a dude who did an amazing thing and there's like character way the back supportive or annoying exactly and this is pulling those those characters out of other films and throwing all together which like they do. There's such a dark sad streak in the Bette at midler storyline about her uncle carmine is this Italian dude with connections things that fall off the back trucks access to meet lockers and he along with Brenda's father Organiz stuff have to fall off trucks for more ds first stores so that they could get their start and then carmine so mad at morty. What a shame he's a dog? He treats you this way what a shame and then just tells her to look at the books and goes away <hes> carmine spin the whole time she's been broke. Mine would invest in a husband. Carmine won't invest in her. I didn't even and they don't even get it's not like morty. Goes and Carman's like I got you babe. Don't even worry about it. Your boys taking care of no problem in it's still morty gets the money morty gives the money right and that crazy how fucked carmine isn't a feminist icon looking out Brenda but a fun character character actor so good. I also love that we've talked about it a little bit but I love that big argument scene between everyone <hes> where it's like you get you get to see so many. I feel like we are kind of in a phase is of like things are all generally moving in that direction. I think we are kind of stuck in this like film moment where there's a lot of Mary sue ish friendships and like I support you. No matter what awesome and here we get a lot of conflict conflict and like they disagree with each other a lot in this huge argument where it makes sense that they would have grievances to air with each other after like twenty years of not seeing each other and then this traumatic thing happens everyone and then they start a weird small small business and of course they're going to have to go back to sixty nine and like you know yell it out and it's it's really cool to see them like calling each other out for all is different Shit and then also and then follow all of that by sad montage yes maybe it was going to happen to our weird small business and then forgiving everything over everything uh-huh yeah she's falling apart and then she calls her mom which makes for like a really great arc with her and her her mom. Where's she's like things were bad in the new called me? Her mom is like really touched because previously like banking was like my therapist says says you're controlling and she is. She's super is on such nice station. That was so so her mom character is great but yeah I really liked that arc and then going back to that argument seen I I love to see women's Rage Express and a movie because women aren't allowed to be angry. According to society read friend of the show past guest psoriasis Somalis book rage becomes her about this very topic nick but <hes> yeah I just I love I love women's rage. It gets word like yeah. Listen to each other. They're angry and they have to take distance halt Hungary angry lonely tire don't make a decision or start a fight fewer any one of those things they have their fight they step away and then it's Diane Keaton that takes convincing because her neuroses pushes her to think that everything's over but the two women who were the maddest who actually express their anger resolves the conflict right and brought it back around a dying in this way that works in Goldie Hawn getting being sober is a little easily handled. She looks at a large bottle and she's like Carlo Rossi wine. Which is what you look at the decision to get sober the holy empty gallon of Carlo Rossi? That's dark moment but it is that you'd never be empty. You should by live in your house after your drink two glasses of it and be like known. I'm not doing this to myself but yes she just does get sober. She vacuums with a hangover one time and is like you know what I'm put down too much yeah they do glaze but as far as like as realistic as a movie of the genres ever GonNa get for like showing like a group of friends being mad at each other seeing like we never get to see like what friend and breakup are like because they're still no societal rules for them other than just ghosting painful and and then yeah like seeing a comeback together and it takes them Tom in its nuys and you're like Oh. This is so I I liked. It seems like all the attention that existed between them since the first scene was aired out and resolved felt healthy. It does do the thing where like that's exactly the time in a movie structure correct if I'm wrong. I don't know if anybody here is study screening but if anybody has doesn't ring a bell but it's it's all too rosy and you've already seen seeds planted weed seeds planted in the garden that are going to have to get pulled out <hes> and it's satisfying trying to watch them grow because you see it from the beginning in a fight right at the end act to and then they do and it's perfect because it just this movie's just a bunch of pretty little bows everything ties up real nice it happens. You know it's great. I think seen pays off really really well. I really yeah that was like one of my favorite. It's the performances to not just the line the tensions really there between them until they blow it all up and then their friendship afterwards sweeter and it's funny that goals in Bette midler throwing the Golden Globe was so lie throwing a Golden Globe in response in fact so good. It's it's incredible. I really really enjoyed that yeah another thing about the arc with Anne and her mom with with anti in her mom in the beginning and he's like what if I find somebody else like it's possible because she's like you know Diane Keaton contemplating contemplating whether or not to try to make things work with her husband Aaron Karen and she's like well. You know I don't know what if I find someone else it's possible and then her mom says you're forty six. You have a better chance of being slaughtered by psychopath same bad statistic from sleepless in Seattle except they end sleepless Seattle say that the statistic justice is incorrect <hes> yeah another another choice quote and this is all presented as we know that the mom is being too much and it's not presented as like what she's saying is correct but she knows you're married. You're a happy you have a daughter. You don't need self esteem you Catherine. I you need to see the therapist right to go see Marcia Gay Harden who by the way there's like this really bizarre like male gays shot when we first see Marcia Gay Harden Scherzer were linked the camera just like hovers on her like pelvis for Awhile Thi- show and then it tilt up to her face but it's like okay so there was a male cinematographer on this movie movie anyway. It's how you know from the first introduction of that psychiatrist. That's who were husband is fucking. Yeah like for sure if you're an adult watching that movie it's like they're fucking. I know I mean the lesbian lesbian anatomy in me. Now is like who those two should FAA but it didn't happen that way now. Unfortunately not I do hope again. I'm giving this movie so much credit because there's two ways that goes it's either like get a lady with hot legs like we needed a look hot so we believe husband would sleep with her. It's like a super intentional shot of like. Let's really lead that. This lady is fucking the husband. That's also in therapy with her and who knows this movie's kind of a coin. Toss that way as it's like it's sometimes you're just like like this could be commentary or this could be over say like yeah. It is definitely a mixed bag in then I think it is. I think it is mixed. It's super out of what it's making commentary on yeah but as far as one years later it's kind of hard to pick apart one ah yes attention price sometimes and then the final arc of like the mom Anne storyline is and he's like the party the celebratory party at the end just saying like you're not getting any younger or thinner you you know what I think you need absolutely nothing and then he's like so that was great. It's cute. I also going back to the Marcia gay harden therapists for a second. It was one of those like I don't know the last time I felt this us in a movie where you get to see the quote unquote like deceitful person will not even quote unquote for Marcia Gay Harden and you should not be fucking your client yeah. That's that's she. She was bad but you see her. Get hit in the face before you we know that and then later you're like Oh. I guess I'm glad she got hit in the face earlier like it was it was like Oh. I don't know the last time that like the bad thing happened to the villain before you knew you were they were the villain and then you're like well good. <hes> I enjoyed that. I do feel like Diane. Keaton was supposed to be the last two no yeah we do like God is heard lettuce now is she's. She's you know put up a lot of walls and intentionally deluded herself and in some regards it's but you know who doesn't do that. In order to remain alive at time convincing Keaton doesn't know she's onset follower around just like in both finger yeah just like make those ladies. How about that Yvonne aw you're like nineteen ninety six honey? She's there as herself delivering the famous line. Don't get mad. Get everything which she didn't get mad she didn't get to do that. No no no you can't because trump's dad put it on a trust when he was three years old to earn interests as a busy yeah. It was just nice to be reminded that we live in hell now watching this lovely movie from twenty two crazy Ivonne a trump. Tom Was a first wife but then also could have been a different kind of late. First Lady didn't happen that way but now lucked out like broken facsimile of her alphabet pitched robot somehow the lower model also Gloria Steinem is they're playing herself thought there what can you do. You know there's a there's a lot of like little nineties cameos. Oh yes this movie to its rich. Should we talk about and his daughter Chris in these sort of overall representation of clearness. Let's talk about Kris basically what I will say. I feel like in the nineties it like coming out had to be like a thing. Hey Buddy down. It was like the whole movie with Chris. Just sorta walks in and it's it's like so early. It's the first time you meet her and she's coming out to her. Mom and she's just like beat ups. I loved it eaten plan on the ring and in the middle of like all something criticizing her mom she basically interrupts criticizing her mom for bugging her dad again to come out and then returns to what you is talking about. This was the actresses choice because it's in the lines a little bit for her dad but like she did it on purpose. I love it just like had a plant. I know I have to come out to my parents. What's the best worst way I could do it to them? Let me wrap it in an extremely personal criticism I love it. I love I thought was so like especially for its time so cool and it's I. I'm curious what you guys think I also thought because it's the way Diane Keaton character deals with it at first she's like. Are you sure there when you say lesbian right but but I do feel like that is how some parents especially older parents like slow born in Nineteen forty-six that is a pretty good outcome for like bafflement bafflement but acceptance like it seems like you know as much as it would be amazing for Donkin to be like that's amazing. I completely except you yes. That's ideal obviously but I it felt like a supportive realistic way of showing that thoughts yes. I love the scene where they show up at the gay bar the so there's a lesbian bar first of all bigger nicer than any lesbian bar. I've ever been to determine. He like dives. This is like dance club like ladies dancing. It's very big. It's all ladies Goldie Hawn a so excited because she's never been in a gay bar. Aw Bette Midler is just so matter-of-fact about it could not give a shit right. I love the way her character handles. It just all examples of ways to do it right. Be Super excited. Don't give a fuck or if you're that cheesy insensitive Diane. Keaton is just just stopping a woman walking out the door being like you're just incredible walking loved it. 'cause that's more again like this. Movie is like my parent like my dad. That's my dad. That's what you're doing there that I like good way to go. Oh congratulations big thumbs up. I think what I'll stick with that. Would you like to be called. Big thumbs up not okay just this. I also really enjoy your incredible because you're lesbian. You just are a lesbian still be a piece of shit living like it's fine parrot thing to do. Is there dislike. I just which they're just saying like. I don't get it but I'm signed with into Woah like that. Scene was I in the same vein of like Diana keen being like I what what what that's yeah that's seen doesn't punch down at all because that to me is about freedom. A woman just didn't say they're like there's the kids what you're up to is still. I understand that perspective. I think there's this whole generation that like you. Don't say that kind of thing out loud. It's not just that you don't come out. It's like oh no isn't there an underground society where you're supposed to be like what's running through her head is like all the lesbian she knew that got married to men like right and lived and like marriages or whatever with their long-term friends on the side picture of what lesbian and freedom is isn't that lesbian bar none of you right even in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine and lady was just like I'm a proud lesbian who will marry a man to satisfy my family and people were like congrats. Yes proud of you. That was like you can't light. It's so hard when they're all southern day and I'm gonNA marry generously proportion booming good. We've got plenty and we need you lock down when they're all lunch. After Cynthia's funeral <hes> like any is like dollars and you know lesbians are great. These Chris is just perfect. I mean lesbians are great nowadays. She hesitates a second before saying nowadays you the perfect like mom desperately trying to get it getting it line read. I thought it was it's also they find. It's a lot to ask of your parents to be excitedly proud of your sexuality of your family of your love absolutely but like just straight up raw dog fucking know your parents don't have to wave a flag for that. It's totally okay if they are a little shy about like the actual sex part about your sexuality probably for the best that they aren't overtly enthusiastic. I mean parents are that way about strikes straight people to your parent. If you're telling your parents something about what you do while you're having sex they are allowed to be like okay. Hang on let me get over the part where you were having sex with anyone or thing and then all process who you are having sex with what do what you want with your and then it Chris is is like continued presence throughout the movie she she pops up here and they're g participating in the first wives club she is saying let's like scheme on her dad who she hates again. I wanted to read that station at the very beginning between between her and her mom where she's like. You were with that man again. Weren't you mother. I'm so disappointed and thanking like I know sweetie but he is your father and she's like yes but he's using you and you shouldn't let him and it's like hell yes. Yes Women Hating their dad. Representation in movies can't get enough of it. It's it's Super Fund and he was also accurate to the way a daughter hates her tad which is still just knows that he's knows him bad like you know. She's still like in his office. She hasn't said he's never gonNA. She's Never GonNa talk to them again. You know that's your dad right but she's also not like. She's got expectations for him that he hasn't met and I appreciate that that's it's a kind of kind of love for their dad like you dumb OAF. Do Better do as good as I think you should do yeah and then the other thing about Chris that I liked because I feel like people are like queer where people are outed as jokes in movies very especially of this era and at the beginning she tells Diane Keaton. Don't tell that I'm going to tell them I want to the end she does and it's such a funny moment though that she does it to like. It's just like Chris Fun. Yeah I mean she's just perfect she. She says something don't Tell Daddy I wanNA tell him when the time is right like father's Day or Christmas morning my favorite joke of the whole movie that at the end she does I forget what the quotas but she comes out to him and when he's really when he's when he's like already he's just been extorted right and she's like B._T._w.. I helped extort you also I'm gay see is it's amazing. It's yeah I enjoyed it same worth noting that this is you know a woman's story believe it or not but it was directed by a man yes screenplay by a man it was based on a novel bill by a Woman Olivia Goldsmith <hes> it was produced by Scott Rudin and many other almost entirely men. I think there's maybe one woman <hes> producing this but it is still largely men behind the camera camera baby why do that when of this is such a female driven stories Caitlyn men like money. <hes> also have been like many but you know that's a conversation for another day sure under under do you get thirty million dollars to make a movie about four women all of them over fifty unless directors dude in Nineteen ninety-six that and that makes a woman direct I mean we still barely let a woman direct wonder woman through and as many years later right and I mean K. Kathryn Bigelow that was directing movie business first wise club violence violent someone would morning any hanging upside down by right when water poured it never dying king hits her therapist. It would've been with a machete Catholic Tarantino's. I was yeah it's just I also think it's worth noting the wildest is a you know a nineties feminist text. This is still a movie where the women are pretty much all consumed zoomed by the men in their lives like the men are motivating their choices there you know and it is to get revenge or justice against the man but it still like they're being motivated and driven by men. That's definitely true but I also don't mind it for what this movie is linked. This movie is a revenge fantasy for women who have been wronged by their husbands and if that's the audience like it would be great to see see them just start a small business I guess but like the like this is a revenge Fanta wetzel pretzels franchise and then but I mean like men get so many of those where they like. There's a big Gillian movies about about a man seeking out revenge usually because someone killed his but I see you the revenue I'll slash most movies but like I mean I I agree that I mean it is like the nineties version they are tied to their men culturally at this time. I don't think that is too far off from what would have been true for many women. Still I mean my my mom wants to get a divorce in ninety four but like financially couldn't get a divorce. I and it seems like on a much much more privilege level. That's true to some extent for these women as well and I just I mean yeah I I like that. It's a revenge fantasy because that's what people watch this movie. That's why People Watch kill bill is because it is Cathartic and exciting and like no one's going out and doing this in real life it would be far too expensive <hes> but it has the resource has the resources to have him building in Manhattan to turn into your revenge factory but that's a really fun fantasy. I wonder if the novels written on the eighties 'cause it's gotta go go eighties energy with all the wealth having broken down building in Manhattan CanNot Ninety Ninety two and the screener <hes> of this movie. I guess it's worth mentioning well. He is a man we have to count that against him. <hes> he is also the writer of steel magnolias and laws of attraction. Oh <hes> uh-huh he I mean we we've not covered either of those movies but he seems to be commonly tapped to write movies about. I can't wait for your steel. Magnolias Day surprises taken us. Just everybody gets juice. Everybody has to drink choose. <hes> one thing I liked another thing I liked about this movie is I liked the scene where they're in the room full of open flames which isn't really a movie about friendship between women if they're not sitting in a dangerous room full of candles sales at some point drinking wine and hashing it out I it reminds me of the scene sisterhood of the traveling pants where they go to like the place where their moms met like baby gymnast pregnant lady gymnastics aspects like once a year. That's called yes. I believe that that is one is called <hes> but they have a similar scene in it. Is they talk about Cynthia who I think her presence in the narrative is very eerie in and out and sometimes it gets its this movie gets so robby that you forget why they're kind of what motivated them to do it right but then you occasionally come back to grounding it of I really I mean I thought that was very sweet. which were they were like? Revisiting memories and yes is his Cynthia's letter kind of just like a random chekhov's gun to keep the second act moving sure absolutely no one's GONNA argue. It's not yeah but but I I liked the and that's where the <hes> Lesley Gore. Karaoke is introduced is in the I don't know I thought that scene was very sweet and it was like a nice like reminder in the middle of the the movie of like Oh yeah this is why we're here. <hes> those nice. It's so nice to see you know women bonding women having fun in a movie women rowing golden gloves at each other aiding yeah and honestly that being. Being at a place in life where you can have a golden globe to throw incredible but yeah I think it is worse at least touching on the representation of mental health in suicide -ality in this movie Yes. I don't even know what to say about it but it's it's definitely not well informed <hes>. Let's let's just it's not well informed. I think that it is like you know employing a number a number of tropes <hes> in order to fit the exact plot of this that is not responsible it it implies that a single event in your life would would drive you to this. It doesn't even really address the mental health aspect of that all <hes>. There's also in that weird letter later where she was like. Maybe it wasn't my husband. Perhaps it was loneliness and you're like okay there. I I don't even know if that's in the direction direction of of helpful that is yeah. I think that it is like another example of like something that should ideally be responsible. Mental health discussion used as a plot plot point right yeah and I also <hes> don't think it was done with intention to harm anyone but it just was Kinda lazy writing sure and it's not the worst example that we've seen of like mental health suicidality representation but it's certainly wasn't handled the best way that it could have been no but I mean I also did like and I guess I think about this too. I did like even though like the way they discuss. Yes it again a lot of the ways they discuss things flawed but it's it's good for major for no reason she's suffering because we're not talking to her. One hundred percent about the fact that our attention is pointed at each other the dog and it's my fault because spoil her and this is the result. Don't spoil your dog ignore them nor your dogs but but they talk about at that Lynch like how their friend by suicide and yeah like I I forget which character is but one says. Why do you think she did it and then they discuss it which it is not a laser focus perfect discussion of mental health <hes> but it is it is a discussion that realistically these women would pat? I wish that there was kind of a more defining like this is where the movies stands on this issue the way it takes various strong stance on other things but again the fact that there is a discussion at all even if it is definitely flawed. I was surprised that that discussion was even had and then again because this <hes> woman's death is used as a plot point pretty. I mean like pretty transparently the only response to why do you think she did. It was Goldie Hawn <hes> basically starting to form the first wives club where she's like well. She probably gave him the best years of her life sacrificed her youth always put herself last to bolster his ego his drive his ambition and just as her dignity was hanging by thread she he just lobbed it off by running out with some preschooler cooler. I'm guessing and at that point she's already talking about herself and the discussion of mental health has ended right <hes> the preschool are being <hes> heather locklear so there's there's a is there anything else that anyone would like to talk about. I Love Jonah movie is not perfect and wonderful. It's perfectly flawed. I think for what it misses its heart is pretty sweet and it's I guess if you saw I don't know if you are divorced or the child of divorce. This movie just hit certain notes that like the other thing we haven't even brought up yet is that it's about divorce yeah. When I was a kid my parents split when I was seven and they were about families? Oh yeah so that's like not my picture or if it is about divorce it's like some kind of drama out for fire. Yes Mrs Doubtfire. Admire is another one. That's just like so emotionally rot. That's it's so hard <hes> but yeah so many Hollywood movies are about like the Nuclear Family Unit in the ninety started to crack that open in this movie did it in a way that was like fun and the trajectory of the characters is leaving is out not back into their relationships except for bet and I think the her intention was set from the jump of the movie to let like watching it once you've seen it. It's like wow they plant their seats and they all just grow so neatly and like yeah yeah. I think it's cool about divorced. I think it's cool to bunch of ladies. That aren't twenty five. I think it's cool that he their peak their peak performances these brilliant astro the whole cast is perfect amazing amazing and everybody just is having so much fun and even watching it again with this lens like houses movie made. How does it feel to watch what are these performances like? I still slip into like Goldie Hawn's character and Diane Keaton characters just Diane Keaton still so like Oh. It's just so fun. It's a fun watch ramp. I really yeah I loved this movie and it gets the same thing wrong. That white feminism gets wrong so yeah. It's very reflective of itself. It's time name <hes> yeah. I can't take you back in time and make you be a divorce kid who sees it in one thousand nine hundred six but let me tell you it really hit certain mom's really laugh harder than other moms there. There is a had like last things the way the movie ends of the three first wives Mitt is suggested that Bette midler and her husband that scene that Sh- shall not be named where they are get back together together. When that happened happen I was like oh no everyone's getting back together right? No no no and then thankfully mercifully no one else gets back together we find out the Goldie Hawn House a younger boyfriend amazing and that that great like Diane Keaton voiceover where he was like my husband said he had changed and he wanted to come back and I told them go to how it was great. I Yeah I just I wish that Bette Midler just taken the business but but you know what fine one for three bad you need a forty two because men as much as I love to admit it have feelings and like if men can't process what they're experiencing than were perpetually truly fucked like part of what we'd ask men to do is fully have their emotions so if morty did go through midlife crisis panicked didn't know what to do with his life. You know who knows you can apply whatever you want onto. His character character was he feeling pressure was he feeling failure was feeling inadequacy. He expressed it. He made mistakes and then he made a choice to walk back. Those mistakes like Shelly doesn't dump him. You like leaves her in Lamborghini that he's willing to walk away from men need eight to make those journeys to and the other two men do not they remain shitty characters so I think it was cool to give whether or not bet should've gotten back together with him. A can be an open question for whatever your own familial issues project onto that scene can sure apply your own filter but I was really that one of the male characters had to come face to face with his mistakes and then the trajectory is he's going to be dealing with that that he left. He's going to have to rebuild his home and it's not just on Bette midler like like I don't know I thought that was a cool art year. For more. I always I mean I'm always saying that toxic masculinity one of the things that it stems from is men not being able to feel process express their emotions such huge pressure on them to not MHM and in this movie like there's pressure on morty to not have any feelings he's supposed to have this perfect plastic bride wise and he happy with his money in this new young. He got all the toys that he was supposed to have right and he's not happy yeah. I don't know that's a necessary ORC if there aren't more Marty's awardees if they're all just the other two guys then there's no point in ever trying. Does that also mean that that's at the end with Sarah Jessica Parker in the Lamborghini Victor Garber low yeah they fucking. They're fucking but then like that's that was his his Labor yes yes they sold Lamborghini at Christie's in fucking maid Sarah Jessica Parker. That's a great detail. <hes> the last thing was <hes> what they're endgame. The game is because when I was Gonna I'm like okay they have one job and then where does this business go from there and opening the women's shelter for in in Cynthia's name <hes> while of very boozy feminists because they started <hes> women's shelter in Manhattan which is helpful to women exactly like them that not I mean not to knock any women shelter. That's opening but it's like that's a very this movie's feminism version of opening a women's shelter with an opulent opulent party with Ivana Trump. It's like I don't love it. I do love the intention and I did love that that that the story at very least <hes> says okay now that they've completed this task you know they've gotten their revenge and then they move on to helping other people got cool. I like that like it's it you you rarely see that at the end of a revenge movie you see the Revenge Begotten and then you're like woo but but you see that they're starting next chapter and I appreciate the one thing I don't do they ever go after Cynthia's husband no they should oh yeah oh yeah. I wonder if they make him. Give money or something they should have. I'm seeing in the in the I'm just reading. I I read a piece on the adaptation in the book they do okay and the book they go after him for insider trading to <hes> but in in the movie it's not I mean but I think that Cynthia has significantly smaller presence in the movie then she doesn't a book. I wouldn't be surprised you also at the very end <hes> when Sir Parker's character is <hes> being hit on by Victor Garber. She says something to him like Oh what's going on in there a lot of battered women dancing around which is I guess a joke that probably didn't need to be in the movie but makes her look like shit makes very play of shitty character. You have to be shitty. I did I did giggle at how insensitive that was her because as it does make sense to shittiest people and then they together I I didn't dislike that. No I find myself in a weird. I'm open to being wrong about this or at least a subjectively wrong that I often. I'm fond of characters characters people hate because they're bad people. I'm like yeah expire bad. They're not a good person this character even if there are moves toward redemption they are bad and they will remain bad. They've done nothing to tell you that they are good or not. Changing your mind nine yeah. I love how much three billboards split the world of new nerdy movie watchers. I fell in the camp who loved it. I was in a theater that laughed really hard at all the things that I thought were funny in that movie and I love Sam Rockwell's character because he's a piece of Shit Shit and he's I love seeing this lake. It's not even unrepentant because he's willingly on aware like that's a bad person. We are supposed to not like him and the fact that he doesn't get his comeuppance is on us. That's like a reflection of us us. We don't do that too bad people. We let them thrive. They continue to flourish. They just go on their rampage of vengeance. That's how that movie sets off and I totally get like how disgusting that a cop gets to be this evil at a movie and like so real honestly the accurate and if that character relented and gave you a little one trickle a tear. It's the cheapest shit. It's like you know there's there's better performances and others don't know if there's a straight line between Sayer Pirker's performance in this movie and three billboards found one converted book that didn't nobody thought would make money that was only four old ladies and one converted play that nobody thought would money that was pretty much just for old ladies but <hes> Yeah I love a character. That's really good at being bad and I would be disappointed if shelly said anything less shitty but it is shitty like what an awful thing to say. Totally I love it. Yeah I love it. Hey does this movie past the back to test chance it does yeah truly does and her daughter Chris and her mom and Brenda Elise. I'll talk to each other in various combinations. <hes> Chris never talks about anyone. She's fucking and only talks about her dad like she's totally plot motivated character yeah I think it's interesting these ladies relationships with the men in their life and how much affects their decision making like you were saying that they're really tied to the men's decisions in their lives in the movies kind of about them discovering covering agency but I love these characters I think they are unique. There's time stamped and both sixty nine and in ninety six and I like I'm still very fond them. I still am really fond of like bed meddlers character reminding me of my mom and being in a movie. I'm still like tickled by Goldie Hawn being a movie star. Who's a movie star in a movie talking about being a movie star and Shitty things we do to movie stars Yeah and Diane Keaton's perfect? She's just ridiculously perfect in this movie so the three of them together. I just it's dynamite. Don't if you haven't seen I live club. I'd be surprised but if you have it get on it. It's it's it's it's more of a hoot than I remembered. I laugh harder than I remembered funny. It's the jokes land more often than they don't and when they don't they said in this way that like resonates how good the rest were or how far we've come here you know yeah and I mean and the end the end this genuinely vary effecting the Daniel man ran cryan. I have to wear sunglasses to concerts because people singing makes me cry so I'm stuck from the like I cry the first time they sing they and then by the ends yeah. It's the sweetest if you don't WanNa Watch the first wife club fine but do go on Youtube and watch the closing which you can do and it's worth it yes he lets rate the movie on our nipple scales zero to two five nipples based on its representation of women <hes>. That's one bit tricky because there's a lot that it does right. There's a lot that it does to set the stage for more more inclusive and intersectional seminarist texts to come out later. I wonder what wouldn't have been made if that thirty million dollars movie had made one hundred eighty million dollars. I wonder what you straight line to sorry to interrupt but that was like wow I was genuine. Wonder you know so. It's a good stepping stone but also okay. Thank you. Thank you for your women helping other women beautiful for sure. I wanted to just like I was just as well. I'm coming up with this all by myself. I think I'M GONNA give it three nipple incredible but yeah I mean you know as we've discussed. There's three women who are middle aged. We never never get to see women like that. have their own story in a movie <hes> they're seeking revenge on their on the shitty men in their lives that is cool <hes> but yet is a very like hyperprivileged edge white feminism story that excludes a lot of women. I do like the way the Chris Character in quickness is handled for the most part that was I think she's my favorite character so that said I I will give all three of my nipples to Chris and his daughter do three as well well credible. I had no idea we're going to do that. I will you will you always go first so you never you. You never never get to your always set in the tone and mixed things up. Okay so yeah I I really really really enjoyed this movie and I think it is like it seems like like you're saying Caitlyn. Gill <hes> that it's financial success like that. Unfortunately we you know we live in a society right and so so you know what is financially successful will inform what gets made in the future and so a movie with older women <hes> though they are very privileged older women but that doing well does pave the way for book club. Yes another movie about rich Diane Keaton. Isn't I almost got kicked out of that screen with you. Oh yuck happened Michaela our pretty drunk I I also took lots of cancer wine into that. You'll channing like what are you going to four and then someone hushed me like. Are you kidding me are you. There rent bliss there. I go to watch Grayson Frankie at your house. If this is how you feel like I came here to be annoying but anyways <hes> I yeah I mean I think it does have a place in history for paving the way for more inclusive movies. I appreciate the swings it takes at social commentary. Some of them really hit others of them definitely miss in the modern sense but the amount of issues that this movie movie takes on whether they address it successfully or not is kind of staggering. We're talking about body image. We're talking about mental health. We're talking about queasiness. We're talking a page patriarchy. We're talking about age like we're talking about money. It's like there is there is so much that is even I mean just seeing a movie this big and successful even attempt that many things is is pretty impressive and the performances are so good and I cried and I and Victor Garber is such a day off. It's so good he's smiling at the conference table. When they're talking divorce gee I was although there was okay? The I see in his first seen he does say Babe and I was like like I felt that <hes> also the child molestation reveal didn't work for me but if that is such a ninety s reveal <hes> yeah and and I do I still feel kind of like I just don't give the writers of this movie enough credit to think that they were giving they were doing subtext on how they wrote the younger female characters but that's just I don't know that's that's still something I got stuck on but other than that I mean I. I think this is an amazing movie. I look forward to watching it again. I hope people want you for years to come. Also you know divorce visibility that didn't happen very much. Three EPS just e equal the one-two-three Goldie Bet Diane Knit for one corral. Yeah I'm passing out a fourth nip because I saw it then yeah and I think being fifteen and <hes> having elements of the storyline be close to my life except for the money part but it felt to me the way better than the movies of it's era at handling what it was taking on and it did take on so much and I watched it at a time when movies were still like real like I was in them and felt Bam and like the story wash over me and I wasn't watching for shots and angles and like thinking about the screenwriter reading the credits at all it was crazy to see that life on screen then <hes> and it's fun to watch now and I think it's crazy that a movie that starts with a dear friends death us and is focused on divorce is like in my catalog fund movies to watch. It's cool to see life be normal and crazy and stupid in the midst of all the big changes like death in divorce because life is those ways and those women had to figure out how to be themselves how to be wives how to be ex-wives how to be friends how to lose someone had to grieve and they all did it like a hot mess. I appreciate that they got to be messes. I just think that there were there's enough going going on in reaching back I climbed in time travel machine and in one thousand nine hundred six four nipples an extra one for crystal lesbian and then one for all the lady some Oh man Caitlyn thank you so much I have fun and every time deceit tortured you with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid a movie I love and then you tortured me with the notebook and I yelled about it but it is nice to be back. I think every this is just such a great movie Kenley. My sweet lady was very excited needed because she loves this movie. Oh yeah and Kelly lives movies like who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. She likes people yelling at each other after drinking and this movie is like full of it so just sell the hot reads. Let's a little wine. Where can people follow you online in? What would you like to plug on the online? I am at robot Caitlyn on twitter. I am at Caitlyn is tall on Instagram Caitlin with the in all proper vowels no wise <hes> and I'm very excited that I have an album coming out on August second. It's called major named after my dog who you might have heard whining earlier in this recording she it's I'm just very proud of it. It's a good for all ages. There ain't no dirty words on it. <hes> which is kind of silly exciting. I made it clean album for financial gain. I will be honest with you on this podcast that it was a financially motivated choice. 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MELR0210 #1 - 90210 "Pilot, Part 1"

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MELR0210 #1 - 90210 "Pilot, Part 1"

"They hello and remain indoors. We are going to Sunny California Ladies and gentlemen for the Melrose. Oh Two one oh Bonus show that we're doing here on on the. We hate movies. Prime feed. This is a free show. We're putting out just in kind of just in time for all of us together right. Yeah this is basically we all. We all took this pact. You know like a like a witches Coven type thing that we're all going to watch nine. Oh two zero and melrose place while we're all on lockdown and then eventually if lockdown is lifted we will stop. Yeah exactly and I am joined My name is Steven Sadiq. I'm joined you just heard Eric. Cisco you'll also hear Andrew Juban eventually. Maybe you'll hear Chris Cabin high areas. Yeah we do a movie. Podcast called we hit movies which you will find on this bad movie. Podcasts we also just because this is a free show and we're all kind of a little Having a little bit fun here. There's more stuff on our patriot. Patriotic DOT com slash. We hit movies. You got a ton of great content. We've got a Justice. League commentary coming out An episode on First Buehler's Day off tons of stuff and if you like TV recaps. We have star Trek Picard up there. And the nexus which we do the original series and the next generation but quickly mention some of our fans in the UK might be getting the man delorean because Disney pluses launching there this month so excellent news check out our on their on demand Lori and half hour absolutely yes. This is the pilot. We're going to do this on Mondays. We're GONNA drop an episode recap of Beverly Hills in order. And then we're GONNA do on Thursday's episode recap in order on Melrose Place. We're starting with Beverly Hills the pilot which we're calling the class of Beverly Hills which aired originally October Fourth Nineteen Ninety Steve. You're just calling it. Beverly Hills by the way and that fucking zip code. It's got to be in here. Nine Beverly Hills nine zero two. I gotTa tell me that whole title. I don't know where to put the mail I should point out. Also this marks a kind of an interesting way point here in our lives because Steve you are the Beverly Hills Nine O. To Winnow Guy and like it or not I am the melrose place guy and I feel I. I never got on the train of Beverly Hills. Nine O. Two no for no reason other than like I didn't really watch it but there was a reason there's fucking on it. Well that's yeah well that brings me to my other thinkers Gavin. Which is you know. Grown up in the nineties when Melrose places on it was the thing you could watch on free. Tv that was sexy as all. Get OUT THERE. Were fucking on that. Oh Dude it was a sexy show. Strap you know. There's intrigue murder so I have now seen only nine. Oh two and now the pilots. Excuse me Beverly Hills Comma thank you is. You would say to somebody you know like. Oh Hey Nah not one last night for sure you call it. Yeah you check out the two to one. Oh so I've only seen this literally. That's part one of the pilot. I've never seen any further. I've never seen melrose place so I'm completely fresh to all of that so Melrose Place Hor near than Beverly Hills. Nine oh two one. Oh but the remake is whore near Melrose. Did you watch that? You fucked around with that fucked around. With a little. Bit of that episode's it is very horny. I skipped both remakes and I also skipped that I was really excited. When they were doing that. I call it a reboot or a reunion show was able like playing themselves. That's what I was like. I'm never watching a second of this because it was I was like Oh shit originally gonNA bring all my friends back raw. GotTa Hang Together. It's no it's actually just a self aware. I Miss Celebrity. Get Me Outta here. Bullshit out those dude. Those things are the fucking worst. Do you recall guys? I think with this. We joked about this and circles are for a while several years ago the web series can't get arrested. That's your favorite. I know what that is. She was like it was like Jodi. Sweeten from full house was Dave Cooley. It's like they're playing like they're washed up quote unquote accuracy selves. And when I saw this I think by the way they called it be h nine. Oh two one. Oh yes. That's how you differentiate that remain with as a complete remake not a revival. We're not bringing back old characters. Now they were. They were playing. It was the actors playing themselves during. Yeah like Oh I don't WanNa do this and it was like that kind of thing. Because that's what this can't get arrested was was just these actors playing like down on their luck versions of themselves. Which you know for Dave Cooley. I would imagine art imitating just to get started here because we were talking about our experiences. My experience with Beverly Hills. Not No I have a sister. That is three years older than me. She was thirteen with this came out and that was and she ruled the roost issues. The eldest in the family so she ruled television wise so we were watching this and it was a thing where I was like this stinks. It's for girls and then I would just keep moving closer to the television. So yeah until you started Making it with Jennie. Garth oh definitely making with Jennie. Garth through Steve's TV's. Stop Kissing the TV the WINDEX again. You're ruining the television. So the first thing that I should say is a lot more earnest than the show is later on. It's a lot more about like. This is kind of a family show about a family that moves to this crazy Beverly Hills location from Minneapolis. Minnesota and Minnesota Minneapolis And what is this code? I though it is indeed Minneapolis Minnesota. By the way you know the city of Minnesota and we've been locked inside for two weeks and we're already forget which way you say states. Yup I'm the governor of Minneapolis Jesse Ventura. Do they should all? That's the thing. The accents on Brendan and Brand Brandon. And Brenda should be like. Oh Hey there how's it going? I'm I'm just hanging out here. Bluish disaster is to be fair. Jason Priestley hairs from Minnesota Dude. Oh that's an air if I ever see. It's Minnesota Helmet is what it is did. He's gotTa Minnesota Waterfall. This mullet to beat the band mullet. One ABC's this episode. It's pretty terrific own. I should also say we are only gonNA be talking about the first half of the pilot because this indication we want to keep these relatively short to ninety minutes Beverly Hills then too although I cook Steve Question About Brandon Brandon's family's situation How because their whole thing is like? Oh we moved from Minneapolis. And we're just like normal people blah blah blah. How is it that they are affording to live in Beverly Hills? What does the situation the secret of the show? Which is which they kind of allude to later. Is there fucking rich? I hate to bring it to you. Guys there percents that they're not but like the aluminum body part of the Dad. Jim Malls played by the Great James. That Cossio only get a little bit of him in this episode. is Like a corporate lawyer that gets transferred. Beverly Hills so like they're making enough to live in the city later when they're like. I don't know where everyone's just so rich. I mean again like there's Uber Rich and rich. They're rich not uber rich. So He's Tom Cruise and he's just a roundabout Sydney Pollack's. Yes exactly exactly. That's one way to put a camera. One thing that strikes me the first episode is the weird flirting going on between Brandon and Brenda. I was not okay with it. It's a weird thing do you. They're like fucking twins. You know what I mean. And it's like who knows what's going on man that's all I'm saying. That's where they learned to kiss exactly dude. I mean let's practice on each other. We're pretty much the same person it's just a lot of like she's waking him up and she's like and he's like noticing what she's wearing. He calls her a cute girl. It's like Yeah I got two sisters. I've never done any of that. Feels like he's like oche because she comes in and she's like hey brandon. You know it's the first day of school you gotTa help me. Pick out an outfit. And he's like. Oh what about that black thing? You wore to so-and-so's whatever the Fuck Party back in Minneapolis. You look pretty good. Then I I I. I said that cruel intentions is the Rosetta Stone for step sibling porn. This was an early murmur of that. Just quiet in the background. I feel like if you're she wakes up. She jumps at his bed shaking him dude it. He is sixteen. You got a copy. Doc on the back door but like brandon up and then you walk away from the door. That's it you can't just pounce on that bed duty or with the morning would situation is GonNa Lord my main takeaway from this scene was the line that everyone here looks like. They're in their out of a music video and I don't even have the right hair. Was Brenda Brenda. Played by the Great Shannen. Doherty and Brandon Jason Priestley. This is sort of a before. Brandon turned into an earnest piece of shit later on. He's always kinda earnest but like he's an unlikeable character as the show goes on it. That's too bad because I was liking him in this episode Goof. He's a bit of a goof in the later on he becomes like he's a very little self righteous little turned which come super religious or something I strike the Satan by the way Brennan is waking up with the call from the Death Rabbit from Donnie Darko. That's a great call did you do. Did you notice it's coming out of a Godzilla alarm? Maybe one or two and I feel like they were like all right. Maybe this character is going to be an inventor. Let's just put this in here in case you want to go that way later. Absolutely plant the seed for possible inventors status later on if we picked up. He's a tinker a whole episode about him getting Pat. And my time. Machine's GONNA be broken now Steve. This show went for ten seasons so they like clearly matriculate into college at some point they go into college. It's your classic like we get tired of college pretty quickly. I think it's a one or two seasons of them doing classes and college stuff but then it's now everybody does their own stuff. Brandon runs the peach pit Steve Read the newspaper. Okay no way Steve. Sanders becomes a journalist. He owns a newspaper later on in Q. Not fucking kidding. I wish I was. I gotTa tell you bad fucking a worldwide pandemic or no. I believe I'm going to be continuing the show on no so he becomes the president of the San Francisco Chronicle. Yeah so we like. There's a lot of like We meet their their parents. Cindy and Jim with the late great. I think he's still alive. James Echoes a couple of those marvel movies for a hot second. James Accounts is in the. Mc you think he should've ventures as bald. Senator because Senator Boynton. I thought he played in work. James asked by the way. Thank God is still thank goodness And they wind up. They just go to school and they're kind of. I guess we're again. We're supposed to pretend this the shitty car it's a pretty dope little brown whatever the fuck hatchback rocket isn't a Volvo he's driving. I didn't get a look at this thing. It's not too bad though exactly. But then you. Steve shows up in his Ferrari which anyone get a look at this the vanity plate by the way. Oh Yeah I tried making out what it said. I couldn't I couldn't figure it out. Eight Ferrari I ate affir- right exactly exactly what I ate a F. R. E. So that means eight Ferrari. How do you deep throat? A car eat not suck off. I just dropped. Listen Dude if you like if you're deep throat and something and then you take out like some rusty scissors and cut off the what's holding it together or you can fucking eat it okay. That's what you were. Referencing Eric to remind everybody. That show is free. So yes exactly so we could talk about. Felicia being interrupted by fucking a murder. I guess wait. Why did the scissors have to be rough? Eric like do. I love that kick. Dude you gotTA support it right. I love the the little exchange brand in the racing out to school. He's like he comes into the kitchen to look for some breakfast that he's like. Hey where's the toaster? And Mrs Walsh like throws a box on the floor. And he's like yeah. I'm just going to go to school. Yes she's not. Have it at this episode? They do have a guy I. I love the opening montage of like getting to campus. And because it's the pilot were kind of using this montage to like be the opening credits. Basically yes I fucking love the late eighties of the score. All this stuff but the thing that is truly obnoxious so far to me. Is this guy the flash on STUDENT RADIO DISC JOCKEY DUTY? I think this guy gets cut after the pilot. I don't you know what I mean David. Yeah splur- David eventually becomes the disc jockey which checks out. But I was like yeah. Go ahead Kevin this. Can I ask these? These countries are all of these people who are going to this school like when they're doing this because it's a big montage is. I thought it was the city. Because there's like some Saudis are going there. There are some guys who serve the honorable Elijah Muhammad hanging out. Now it's more of A. I think it's a city waking up as they're driving to the school and then you do eventually get to the school. You'll get more mullets and you get a lot of like break. People just break dance outside a lot of break dancing. I loved the detail of the high school has valet parking. Yes and Steve. Sanders shows up. And Sodas Kelly Jennie garth shows up in her car. She got a nose job over the summer. Oh it's a brave new world you guys. They took a foot off of it. Yeah that's an insane thing that Steve Sanders says in like what he thinks is going to be a flattering remark. Yeah he's not really running great game here on Kelly. So Kelly and Steve used to date but have since broken up as he tells it he dumped her. Yeah I feel like that's not true now. I feel like that's probably a lie. He keeps saying the multiple characters and he's just like he's this first season specifically he's really creepy towards her. If I remember correctly they become buddies later on like just kind of pals but for a while is again. Let's insufferable Eric for Blonde Representation. How Steve Treating you? You know what it's actually not bad. I mean this guy. It's another handsome but curly mullet. Going on with with iron zeroing in this episode. He kind of looks like he could be playing saxophone in some yacht rock band Tadao Italy. Yeah especially later. He goes this parties. Where that fucking blazer and white shorts like where do where do we set off Steve? He's he's going to a party and like nantucket this whole fucking episode. He looks like a real ass hall. It's great his backstory. But you kind of get a little bit is that his mom is sort of a leave it to beaver and or what do you call it the Brady Bunch Esque TV mom but guess what? It's not all cracked it's not like it's cracked up to be on in real life. Irl's they call that there are. There are no more wire hangers. What I would do is do you reveal eventually remember. There's she's a Shitty Mama believes alchoholic. Yeah Yeah Easy. Way To go. Then we meet our freshman characters. Which is David at Scott? Rip Scott's the one that accidentally shoots himself if there if. I have a favorite episode television in the episode. Scott shoots himself in the face I was about to ask was in the show or real line. I believe the actors Are Is IRA alive. Undershot FACE JOHN. David is he becomes part of the main cast. Like kind of like just like fold him in Scott is like I guess you had. These guys will be our eyes and ears of how the school works. But eventually we don't like this little wiener character by the centre-right Scott out by the way a great sequel. The UNCUT GEMS unshod faces. This is how it looks like. Yes Scott checks out midway through season two. Yeah that's unfortunate for Scott Scanlon. Although I will say the actor Douglas Emerson Still Alive. Well that's good. Yeah he's wearing. This fucking Lakers hat and later on. He wears a Lakers shirt. It's like Scott. We can't do this but you see her else's dress Scott. That's not what we're doing here. Absolutely not look Scott. I'm handsome you don't have these good looks you gotta shape appear Bu but also like this is a school where like you're not wearing shit with low goes and team emblems on this is West Beverly High Baby and yeah we kind of go around. Yeah there's this weird threat in the first season where it's like a SPA supposed to be like the best high school in the country or something. Well this vice principal is feeding brandon. Brandon this fucking line about like. Oh yeah well back in Minneapolis. It says you were straight a students will let me tell you West Beverly. These kids are competitive and I was like. Is that true later on? Kelly asks her. She's like are you smart and Brendan Kinda and I'm like. Yeah that's about right. Well that dude that fucking scenes. They're in like biology class. Or whatever The teacher in the classes that actor Josh Mostel from City slickers. I always think of the principal from Billy Madison. Yes Oh absolutely Mr Anderson. That's right if I was him. I'd walk my fat ass oncoming traffic. Sorry I read. That movie. Still Delivers Zero Mostel son. I believe Oh is that right. Yeah should be one must tell But it's Kinda crazy like this ridiculous scene. Where like he says. Hey everybody you know. Pay attention where you're sitting because whoever you're next to is going to be like your lab partner for the year and this like you know a bigger size woman walks in all of these students are like. Oh my God oh like the fucking ride of the valkyries starts play. I mean it's insane fucking Jennie. Garth and she's like sage taken and the girls like. Yeah by who add like Brenda walks. And she's like that girl and you think like at some point in the episode or later on like we would find out like maybe that girl has a great personality and she's a great character. Whatever no she's a one fat joke. It's at one a fat joke. I kept waiting for this character to shop again. Yeah exactly and thanks. Aaron spelling it's On some whiteboard like what are you? WanNa get done in the first episode. I WANNA introduce the characters for sure Brandon inventor question mark. Okay fat joke hey number. What no fatty is right. That on the board set that tone real quick joke spat smell joke. Plus what can we get that seahorn noise possibly around here? Kelly starts telling Brenda about like the the popularity in the school and how important it is and you wouldn't want to be caught dead eating alone like that kid. And it's her brother Yeah that's Kinda funny. It's sparked a memory of my traumatic High School experience. No well yeah I remember I. I was friends with a group of kids for my entire life. You know like from Elementary School in onward and one day in the lunchroom like you know you go sit with them and then everyone gets up and moves to another table. Oh no after. That happened to me and I was like wait. Is this a game? People are playing so. Let me also do that. They kept moving and I was like okay. I can't wait a second. What did you do to deserve the excommunication? I think it was the no fat? He's rule. Okay we actually think that's what it was. I was GonNa ask me wearing the Lakers. Had at the time Eric did you smell. You can tell me. Of course I smell I mean I think that's part of what this show is. GonNa reveal is like you know some high school stories by pop up occasionally true. Yeah I. I don't think I ever dished on that one before. No I don't remember that humiliation they're going no you should. It's back. No the thrust of this episode. Is this big party at Marianne. Something Others House. She hires a plane That tells everybody that big party on Friday night. No freshman allowed sorry freshman characters. Do this is another great visual gag. Or it's the plane flying the little banner behind it and it's like back to school j. m. this Friday that gives the address or whatever. Jenny recognizes you. Know who Maryann whatever's address. That's cool then. There's a great gag of there's a second airplane carrying the Tinier banner that says no freshman The I apologize are breaking news. The no freshman plane has gone down. There were no survivors With this means that freshman are now welcome to marry and whatever the party. We're now getting word that a second plane has hit the Second World Trade Center Tower was carrying a banner that said no freshman way to get that message across this party although there might be seventy two in heaven right. Oh man you know what? We're going through a global thing right now. Let's have some levity at the past. I apologize actually to thank for for the global thing. No you got to laugh at yourself cheese so you can laugh at Basov in high school. I could laugh at travesties that time as well exactly. What's his simpler time? It was a simpler thing. You could still go to a restaurant or bar afterwards true mucking viruses talk about this Andrea character. Oh we have to talk about Andrea Zuckerman top ten school papers in the country. That's a great loser organization. Fuck contracts this shit. Yeah I gotTa say this. I feel and I'm sure other people have different experiences but cabin are high. School newspapers sucked. Nobody cares nobody. And like when you have these shows where she's basically acting like she's fucking William Randolph hearst. She's like she's like yelling at Jason. Priestley about deadlines and the School Sewage Dump Story. And I'm like just fucking report about the bake sale and the dance and whatever else it's like the post and the same production value surprise. You guys actually at a school newspaper. I thought that was like Tv propaganda. Because I never had. I didn't have one either. We sort of started one and then it never came out because nobody attended meetings and that was it. I think we had a thing. It was like one piece of paper like maybe front and back Kristie remember. I think that's right. Yeah I don't know I mean I remember like the same people that always did like school papers. Shit where the same people that gave a shit about being on the Yearbook Committee Idaho. Thanks I think mine was. Just you can be in yearbook if you. If that's what you WANNA do. You can be in yearbook relearn a little more about Andrea in the next episode. But it's it's mostly like we will learn here. She's an overachiever. Kind of the NERD character and we also learn in this episode which is the dynamic she has most of the show is Jason Priestley letting her smell it and then walk away. Dude I got a real James Bond and moneypenny vibe. With this absolutely torturing this poor girl he goes up to his okay. Where's the cool place to take a hot girl on a Friday night not US specifically but like imagine if a girl were hot dude? This exchange is outrageous because like he asks that she gives him shit about the deadline or whatever and then like he promises to do the story and she's like okay moon shadows in Malibu and he's like okay got it and then like before he leaves. The office is just like is she? What does she say? Is She pretty bad? My asshole clinched right up brandon. Could you just rub the front of your gene through a little bit? At one point he was wearing a Canadian Tuxedo. Oh for sure. That's what makes this big the great big party party off. Look this hair and the California heat. You're wearing that to my God. Do you think you are Jay Leno to California great question because David shows up first day. Where this fucking New Ellen? Sorry Elaine Benes Blazer mustard yellow blazer. It's fucking ninety degrees. It's honest in California. Hey I have a question about the back to school jam. By the way lease what and I looked and I couldn't find anything. There's nothing in the Trivia about it put my God. What are we doing with this band? That's playing it is wretched punk kind of bands. Sort of I will say an. I'm almost positive on this. I think syndication you run into. We're swapping out music for music rights. But I don't think that's going to help this ban but just general I okay. This is the same band The played the prominence. Sinoe man opened the door. Get on the flow. Everybody that does so. I mean it's entirely possible like this one guys wear like a backwards hat. Just kinda like it's weird because what the singer is doing physically is not matching. What you're hearing on the soundtrack because actor is basically like shaking his head back and forth with his tongue out like and it's just the worst looking fucking band one guy looks like slash from guns and roses hit squad. There's a few slashes in this episode. One of Steve's friends guys slash haircut. He does well. Steve gets wasted at this party because he goes up to Kelly. And he's a unit dance or just like absolutely not you're disgusting and he gets really upset and he starts really really pounded by himself. David in a character balloon there by the way pounded by uh-huh Quarantine Baby Party. David at a character fighting move ditches. Scott immediately at this party Scott gets pushed in the pool. Which is a fucking great. Yeah we'll freshmen. These kids they're nine years old. I was actually pretty shocked. At how much of a baby. Brian Austin Green tiny tiny child. Because again like I didn't I didn't watch it so I I wasn't aware of the fact that he was supposed to be like an underclassmen when they were older. I just assumed they were all like bugs in the same grade the way it goes for Scott in this episode. I'm thinking that face shooting wasn't an accident your do. This is just the first step towards him playing with his dad's gun. Yes I think it all kind of ads. He's excited to play with the gun. Later on he gets wasted. David has to drive them home. And that's a comical scene. Sort of this was all kind of funny kind of feeling like a little John Hughes trying. I like the whole gag of like the cops. Come up and Steve thinks it's a good idea to put his football helmet and show shoulder pads on David. The like hide then he looks like a Kid. These cops stare at him and he's like wildcats number one. It was a good moment. It really was his balls. Are Years Away from dropping in this pilot? Man Absolutely The Brandon meets the girl. Who's running the party? And she's like your sexy. No your sexy yeah. The word sexy was king. Look I am going to be honest with you on this. You cannot have a saxophone like this. And not have people fucking. It's not allowed you. Can't you feel a little teased their cab a little bit this book and it's going off it's fucking waylon breaking through your data. I'm watching this man rub in the front of it. Jason Priestley does have a good line here because she goes You smell good. What are you wearing and he goes. I Dunno tied Nice Dude. He's just an average Joe Man. That's you ride. That should as long as the let you also feel like. This is kind of like the first of several car wrecks in the shows. Yeah Oh Yeh real quick before we get the car wreck Driving Steve. Home and this babe mobile pulls up. Yeah and they're like there's a geek drive in your car. I do say I do have to say though. I appreciate that in this pilot episode. We have a quote unquote teenager. Who had too much to drink at a party? And like five of his friends are straight up and down telling him he's too drunk to drive. We're learning and stuff eric. Did you go through the Babe car thing too know Chris I never drove a jock home? And then taunted by a babe mobile now. Now there there wasn't we were we were. I don't know it's we were light on the Babe Department. We will light on every department dry. I didn't drive 'til Like I was driving a little bit like the senior year but I didn't actually get a car until like freshman year of college or so Gotcha would have been more of a babe carriage together. Okay so yeah I mean going on. Kelly makes fake. Id's over the week We got a little bit Tori spelling not a lot. There's a fake crew of other girls. That will disappear by the time the pilot gets sorted out. Yeah not yeah madge denise whoever no worry don't bother learning their names yes it look. That's their kind of Thrust Brandon. GonNa take a Marian on a date. He sexually taunts Andrea. Then Brenda goes on to this really cool club with all the GAL she gets in. I but Jiman- Han Soo says nobody else gets in. What is surprising him roll up as this bouncer at the Blue Iguana? Did you see the credits now? Just a credit. Just as Shimon wasn't wasn't he like a model before? Arnold great in this by the way. I'm just God inside the club. We have REX manning. Yes Dude Maxwell Caulfield also from Greece to by the way. Oh yeah forgot. This guy is a great a scumbag. Scumbag. 'cause like Brenda. Looks like she doesn't Shannen Doherty doesn't look like she should probably as an actress like twenty eight twenty one and he's like hey. Do you go to school. Do you go to school. What school you go to get creepy man like you should try to college girls if you're even if you're in your mid twenties which has guys clearly forty five. Yeah and also when they order bananas. Dockery's you should know what's up any time. A DACHARY is ordered in your presence and you are not at an all inclusive resort. Get the fuck away from that person. Say a beach or bust on that one yep and I I also be afraid that I would see I was getting set up here because she blows every question he asks her. You know what I mean. He's like what school do you go? Do you go to college right. Yes college do you live in a house or an apartment? A House with all of by Sorority sisters dude. When he would he says you know like Oh. Do you go to college or whatever. Where do you go to college? She goes guests. He says you know whatever. Usc UCLA whatever it is and she goes. That's right. Hi Rex. Manning Chris Hanson Can't exactly I hear you in this nightclub? Do you WanNa go somewhere else. That is the thing because she's blowing every question. He's just like yeah. I'll risk it. Yes let's see what the next question you know. Keep risking it. Just take my whole life in my hands. Here that Steve. I know that they go on to hang out and I guess one of them goes on to manage the peach pit at some point. Does the Blue wanamaker return at all? Is this a hang out now? This is this is a one and done for the Bloomberg laws too bad. It's too bad we don't know peach pit no Joey. Totta great net character. Not In this one no Luke Perry. Either he's coming in episode to be the one after the next part of the pilot man. Yeah wait a second. Make US wait for that. I don't know what's going on there because there's like. Oh sorry I'm just saying I couldn't believe it I eventually. It was getting to the end of this like half of the pilot and I was like Oh when she goes into the bar. Maybe Brenda is going to meet. Luke Perry there. Yes but now they just cut him. I think it's a thing where they retooled the show after the pilot a little bit. God so he comes in in episode two. Yes okay. So he'll be in episode three of the nine. Oh two one. Oh side of this podcast. We WANT TO MAKE. This is confusing as possible for every why not. Everyone has the time. I don't know how I mean. That's kind of the end of the episode because it's not really built for a split you know what I mean. It's not like there's no real like ending here. It's just like Brenda kind of talking to this dude and Brandon's about to go on the date and we cut kind of coming up next week on Beverly Hills nine. Oh Two one oh totally yes. I do we. Are We talk? Do Letter Grades here. What do you want to do Letter how letter grades for Old shows. I don't know yeah We'll just let's think the thing is like I have seen zero episodes of this. I mean my my great is incomplete idea. What what to rate it against or even what to say about it. I feel like it's it's enjoyable enough. I really liked the whole like early. Early Nineteen Ninety. Like kitsch factor of seeing all the clothes and the hairstyles. And so far. It's kind of fun okay. I was totally having fun with this. Like I think melrose place starts like a little later in the nineties. Maybe like mid nineties actually So the look of that shows like completely different also. They're all living in an apartment complex. And as as we'll learn in the pilot it's total spin off of NATO to know it's not like a real deal spin off. Yeah well yeah I was really. It's because it's this California universe anchored by this show melrose place and the short lived models. Inc ooh so. That's kind of a teaser. So we'll we'll be talking about melrose place on Thursday that's right. I should say if you are looking for this stuff it's streaming in its entirety on who and CBS. All access here in the states. those are the two places we are finding here so the show is out there if people wanNA watch along so we'll see you tomorrow on the speed with a new episode on. Queen of the damned. But we'll be back doing melrose place. This Thursday the premier so until then take it easy

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Diane Eustaquio - The Hustle Behind Ideaspace

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Diane Eustaquio - The Hustle Behind Ideaspace

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Name is ron and i'm your host episode is powered by be twenty-one a platform you start your journey crypto currencies. We are abroad affiliated a podcast network agent but before begin with like to remind you that the spot guessing. Deans not language. Kids listening to this. Because today we'll be featuring the mother of a lot here in the philippines and her name is diane. You stuck you'll of ideas. Space aboard me. The gives us an idea of her vast knowledge about philips hue will share how she started out her career and how she became an executive assistant a lot of country where she was able to master a lot of skills especially her dirtying skills which uses a lot of startup space then she will share cow idea. Space was formed in why existed long. With how the competition is all through the years and how they pivoted in attracting the type of startups and founders of the support. Now stick around till the end because a lot of amazing tips. That just might give you the chance. You need to have a better coming. A winner of the idea speeds competition. So if you're ready to learn the hustle behind ideas me. Let's begin this right now. The latest episode of the share pod. Yes we finally got my mother hand in though. Show my goodness almost two years old. And why is it just now that i'm guessing you have. You're supposed to be one of my birth standard. Tony episodes that you know we and you're taking care of all these five gas but before yet carried away. Let's welcome to the show miss. They and you stuck your ideas phase and no no no and why is it taking it this law. I guess because you know all children are take their mothers for granted that would do nothing granted. Nice it's just your mother. I'm not your biological a lot of the other chicks that have been on this show. I can't name them all so many of them already. Warmer people who spoke highly of view. And you know have all had an amazing journey because of your debt village but before a get carried away. Misdee- i need to ask you the million dollar question misdee- what's your hustle. I hustle for startup founders. I hustle every single day. The far mentors for them for adviser spread than for resources for them. I just hustle for them. My life has been dedicated this to them for the last Markets in almost nine years and. This is my knife work and we love you equally. because again i might not have been The guy that that has been there From the start. But i was. I consider myself an outside child. You know Okay so miss. The i've known you for awhile again. Your mother hen since inception of ideas mace. I was there you know bringing you to usd because you needed a lot of help with and really do much. They didn't know much and i said why. How come this only happened. When i'm already two three years graduated from school. But i need you buckle up to because we're going to have to write. I don't drive fast. But i drive time machine because we're going to have to write the hustle. Sheriff time machine pappu at. Yeah i feel. I feel myself like i feel the velocity there. You don't worry we have our so we can. We won't have to pay cash on the now. Didn't find dust. I machine i. We all know you as the mother had ever supporting mother of so many hundreds of startups now indefinitely it's esp school or whatever. You've always been a constant in the community. But i wanna understand how you started out your hustle. Because you're such a nurturing figure you know and i feel there's only two people that i feel the same way in the startup community that i feel like i can come clean be emotional and just just let it all out. It's un minute oldie threw right and you give me to seem warm motherly feeling and i. I don't think because it's something that you know one thing that a lot of started founders need is someone who can always just let down their guard and tell it straight up but how did you start your hustle. Because that amazing skill i see that as a skill does not come overnight. Pretty sure you nurture that. How did you begin your career. And how did you become a mother cheek. Not the mother hen yet. How was that lake. The fourth child And when i was the forced child and my didn't have a baby brother yet assist my family gopher and I've g- ask. My nature of serving people was worn from whole ended up serving my brothers my sister. They're only telling me what to do. And i always found joy in doing it. You know being sold off like my brother at one time my birthday gave him said he gave me a fries and a bottle of coke in my house. No food no substrates end of my classmates who have clover chips and all that but for the online had was honey and inbred found my brother once. I've made me so. I thought he said i'm gonna give you a raise and gave me a bottle of coke and to your cool. You know i drunk get down into. Maybe it's you second don. I did like if your inside. That's how much i want to please parole around. I want to make happy. And i wanted to serve them. So it's ice from home and the I grew up also after school. I go to my dad's office. And my i though was my dad's wonderful executive assistant. She had all. I know the office. I know office in is in love office. I still need to hold safer. I still need the whole effort and so I i guess. I developed that ability to hear people not thinking of my nine or power or whatever i enjoy doing things for other I was given all sorts of roles in those days. You know when you're when. You're you have a manila office. And then you have an office in the province. Usually you communicate by radio so they learn the radio codes but anymore like liking like run. Run run rest overnight. Those those who. I learned in the Well then fast forward to college. And i finished stage finished organization muslim indications onto become a speechwriter and then the under secretary for environment. And maybe. Because i grew up in an office and i knew how executive assistants should be we fucking ya. This was running. I ended up having a dual role being speech writer and An executive assistant to the undersecretary of environment signs. And that's where my a skills meeting started to get I messed government. And then i I got married. And i. I had a business and that's an i did. I thought actually even in college. I was already selling i was. That's what they used for my date money. They're my dates. Were manila land based face for my own. Even before my woman lucky guy who missed nakae show so how did of benefit nurturing nurturing skills further because as an ea you really have to make your boss the good and being an e the secretary of environment and the president of musleh or the general manager of own onto and I wanna talk level. Even at one time i had Young as my boss. Yeah he was my boss for short. But i didn't i didn't i take wells to for the chinese organization. I probably really fits more for And america couldn't be very there. I couldn't hold back mine my car in the board meetings at solid zip my left anyway. when you're working for top level guys like that you have to also be the go between good people who are in trouble so i learned how to help people Fix their problems with my boss are fixed their problem with their who needs so i ended up being like eight dr and and And a gift. You can say executive coach at the same time when i was In when i was working on semiconductor unindo goodbye i spent host the nine years in the senate so i ended up working also with people. Really act the ground. That will disastrous. Because you're soft machine operators thickness shuns people like that I learned how you that that being of service When i turned about thirty three. I really nice. That's what makes me truly. Happy is when i do things for people so i use as on that the destiny of becoming doing start off since up wasn't number one for me a dsp just my vehicle the of servants to other people. But i very score. I am happiest when i'm doing things for others so fortunately when ideas face came into picture in my life was mi- offered service to ball and i didn't know i was in analog devices. I was saying that the quality management man and being in the program of you know he can is about culture and then it's also about people development so i worked with engineers who were given leadership roles when they would lead a tiki theme and so that process i saw the transformation in their leadership skills and i saw also how. I am able to intervene the right time. I saw that kind of all of the things on the dots in my life. A neck said when ideas idea space came into the picture. Okay now before. I talk about ideas face. I wanna understand because again you've had a very illustrious career supporting again. Ceo -s presidents. Be really people of power but one thing that i know now having gone through a little bit of a startup journey everybody that also makes it to the top are not perfect. They have big loss. That may need the right people to mitigate the risks and also save themselves from from addition as well because they if they don't have the right people around them they'll be the cost of their own device right. But what i wanted to ask me is two things first off base in your experience having to work with all these this really powerful men. What makes them great. How how do they become great at what they do and what is the similarities of those with start founders. See starting out especially those ones who you think will eventually make okay so you know. When i was small. I would hear things like to be a good businessman. You have to. Luce really can't be. What does this ruthlessness. I during that. It isn't this nece. I need to become grade. You'd need a it's a mix of everything bod every. Ceo has i this streak in down to become a ceo. You need that the spotted street. What is despotic three for dot. At some time. You know you need to make that decision. You knew the shots have they who you call this show and the results. Yeah yeah so Need to make tough decision so I was really bad and And heartless but the successful ones the have if people in their hearts but they also can be with the string. Not give in every single. I desire or yeah A good leader is also someone who can communicate so they need. They have this vision. I had a boss. Says i want this to be a great great place to work. Okay so what does it mean. What does it mean. I wanted like this this this this and then you know what left to us. Me and my cooly execute. John's he's he's able to be division so if communication is also important in in a good leader five things that like skills like that not necessarily because a good leader should know how to use all those skills around them way. You know that this. What extreme How worried is this area. Based see the people around them as an asset yes. It's so people say that while how about you being a person i can asset its human capital It's something i wish finance people with imp- you already into into books but Yeah i is these big bosses the people as assets and how they use one asset to improve the other assets and i they. They see i. I sat before they can think of all found on. You know stalin concern clear. They get you know. Look i as the skills of the first on at what he has to deliver an off of The background of the first one now when they make decision on stats when all of those complexities. Coming to amazing that in how the big bosses are with the pressure of so many things happening visine thing. I guess i guess you. These are people who get the opposites because they can they can live with all sorts of fresh shores and Are able in the china-led fix stopped their brain and think of something else but then what i knew. This also is that when they're thinking of one thing it's just that one scene zero in zeros. Yeah and that's true. There may share a little bit of context before we take our first break. I developed that skill a little bit through look. I have the specific rule. I who then what because you are as good as your startups team. If you don't hire the right people recruit the right people in your flip floppy and the way you run your theme and vision. You're not gonna make you. You're good how who who you surround yourself with and it didn't understand that before mysterious. This house a one man team for a very long time with and i developed like. Oh my god. I can't do this alone. And then the big bosses eventually and it had this experience. A few like probably last year After the acquisition of chapter now i'm working with a conglomerate and the unprecedented problems that now i have two songs and one of the mentors that have had their in sterling the studying hard mr johnny c we used to be these of espn and specifically rebate him. He said that's why they pay you the big bucks to solve problems like this actually make decisions. That are tough. Might not be mueller. But you have to Specifically grow a pair of boss actually be unpopular. And do the right thing for the business. Okay now let's before we talk about ideas we need to take a break because you are one of our sponsors about that. Talking about the more after the break he hustlers. I know how difficult it is to hustle now in make ends meet during this pandemic. It's really not easy no matter how hard we tried. There's still no guarantees especially in this type of economic climate however even though that is the case it's still the best time to spot new opportunities. We can take advantage of to earn some extra books on sign now. We always talk about investing in building multiple sources of income in this podcast and asked the world economy has gone read. The crypto market has been steadily growing. Now luckily our friends at be. 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Acceleration program idea space is looking for tech and tech enabled startups that are turning their ideas into action once again approaching its ninth year. It's still on the lookout for started. Downers that are driven to create lasting change through the work that they do. If you're listening to this podcast and if you want to have a real life startup experience just like what you saw. Net flicks like showdown meat. And non dawson. This is your chance to have that real life non-fictional startup experience which is the twenty one. Acceleration program of idea space is now open for applications for just like dozens of startups at me. Pat here to podcast. You can get the chance of support resources opportunities along that you need really be. That startup reap our reality. We're all you need to do. Is just click the link in the description. Box this episode. So you get the application form of the next core and if you do have some questions just don't yet to follow idea space on their socials also go to ideas space foundation dot org to ask more questions so again. Good luck your application and good luck to your startup. And rebecca would with misdeeds who told selection is such a nurturing figure and why we are so lucky to have her in the greatest cheerleader involved and so the greatest hand of startups in deputies. Okay now i. I would understand your narrative or story. How how you came into idea began you. Basically lincoln just summarize it a little bit. You were an epic as executive assistant executive director and then out and this is being run by the unions. You know mr earlier. Land and martin garon right needed also to hold down the fort. Because you can't just all you know Brazen about things walk us through how ideas race warming how difficult it was forty so it started because i was involved with the recruiting men at that time. Metro pacific was recruiting. People who were leaders were developed outside of the country once we wanted to infuse kind of human capital into Existing full of leaders in the metro pacific. Its subsidiaries so was involved with Recruitment of ill skies those cooper recruitment and announced so because Marston and earl where considered as review the new blood. That they into the full of leaders. My boss who is ahead was the head of strategy. Call martha and earl in enter. Torrisi has all these. He's always thinking of new things and both he called in one day. Erling martin who teams a bitch side who add the not they put up an incubator that affect startup incubator. Third both earn martha they have to his means valley before earl became part of the metro. Blue or part of smart enough. They said they were inspired by the city combat and then only if turns out that mister finley lena at mr darcy have been thinking of an incubator for almost ten years. And they're no. I was witness to all these angel. Investments that editor three c. Did and and how how the angel invest are seeing and how how the money goes down the drain. If you don't watch it does there. They're busy standing through. The made the shareholders of the institutional investors of metro pacific for specific And their personal investment. Sometimes don't get through. So i think they saw the need or the philippines to have this An environment for entrepreneurs who given the opportunities especially those who don't have money in the background or clinic on so feckless also the one of the inspirations of why wants to the ideas is what's coming back highly it was giving opportunity to see both and third was also bringing innovation in through the crew. Sorry heard my phone no problem. It's okay right now on that note right so you wanted to bring back silicon valley the idea of silicon valley. What's unique about ideas. Space is again You have the competition as a mean centerpiece of how you support startups right. I mean There's of course spinoff which school board that basically helps everybody else but you literally narrow it down. Like number does san in j. in What's her name right That's why i made actually rents the you guys in one of my videos on youtube. Hey this is exactly what but need compare other startups other startups and they don't and founders falling in love with each other because that's bullshit in everything but here's the thing why why. The idea speech competitions such a focal point in now for eight nine years. Now of why i how executes the hope that this is Specifically an instruction of you know he believed so much in petitions. When he was young big breaks was because he won a competition. Sponsored by popular and gamble is seeing wartime so our equalize so it was very cornerman. Beware conceptualizing yes. And how every stage of new would be done. Our trustees wanted to make sure that it was going to give the opportunity people and there was no favoritism that would happen. So that's that's the main reason why we do. The conflict is shines. And how did that evolve. In terms of again. I remember the first one and Full disclosure. i tried to three times to join. And i never got past the brenda brenda interview. Me and then. I never got past that and now. I'm a mentor. I'm one of the ones that judge you so if you are joining your i don't know if i can say radio that's runs. We believe the evolution of the self. Evolution of the entrepreneur are usa's students. We saw you how you struggled your failures. You don't throw that the way that is. Actually all failed founders. You are jams of the ecosystem because the mongouma knowing you know you you know if more than than the successful founders we sent me on this successful founders those who got the investment those who are like wow rockstar but the bedrock of inconsistent is the number of failed founders. Go back and do a star of what a wants to develop more than you know. We did a few years ago and found out that eighty percent of the founders who fail go back and do a start off they go work for corporate on been announced they work for another up so sad but that's an investment of the circle of excellence system and we should we should use that. We we should also is the mind someone so weird when i see that like oh i stay back i think i blinked you out with over spoke you. It's okay but at the end of the day it's weird you. The weird part also is failure. Yeah you come clean but it also has to come with humility and also need nine to lick your wounds. I had to bounce back out of necessity. Because i didn't have anything i was again. I i can't let my mom shoulder meden right and knowing me also after tasting the bug of entrepreneurship. I cannot work for anyone again. Ever right i'm going to have to take a gamble on myself and see you. How how far can you go. But now i at least. I know what to do and for for anybody that wants through. I failed and i've had this is well-documented out there school it out right that I feel but you also have to lick your wounds. And when you feel that the time is right jumped back in again because he'll be a better Version of yourself and you have a better chance of succeeding in your startup. But the one thing that one or the mo- that also at least from my point of view mississippi is. I knew how to build teams. Now that don't mean one thing that helped me have better. Chances chat yacht acquired being as better. 'cause i knew how to build teams now also involved in medium sized There are quantities that founder needs to have number one self awareness eastern. Not us your strengths. Your weaknesses is very hard to build a team because the unsuccessful themes we found out there checking people were like them promoters one co founder. And you from all things founders. Because why do you start. It's not a boss faust fuel because if it's just about your know glowing did in yourself but it's you will influence and i asked to see people influence. They fall further. I mean anyway. It's it's really should be about other are you can have you can feel the pain you can probably you're being could be the inspiration of your stars off her. It should be more than just you. So is self awareness. The i just sidestep all because what in your opinion what is a self promoting start the founder because we need to identify those that were where where do you cross the line that it becomes about you and it's not about your starter because at least for me. I make a lot of noise. Because i need to make build high for myself. And that's intentional by default. If i'm not promoting my startups i'm posting random. Stupid funny stuff on. Feasible are some tiktok videos. So mr you. What is the characteristic before we proceed with the three other factors that makes a successful startup. founder what is boundary. 'cause i when you said that i also thought it was myself promoting founder. 'cause i talked a lot and i post a lot of stuff but it's at least in my in my own heart. I know it's not about me. 'cause i'm very private if i'm just very noisy that's the business of i learned in my first startup party that you need the great hype and user acquisition through your content. It's three what is it morning pounder. Somebody puts himself. i had of everything else. Dave downball opportunity for for. Let's say number one speaking. If there's an opportunity for someone in your speak or your company why not give it to someone else. If there's an coach for customer of yours to get the exposure. Why not 'cause they're still. Let's talk about your start off the pass ugly of what sounds sounds more self self from founders had seen is that the us others do they embellish the they look better and it's predatory nature they could bank of other people's thirty to thirty look better and i i. Yeah it's it's It's using people in nine and it's because misdee- if you're creating a startup This might third startup now. It should never be about you. It's about your customers. The problem that they're trying to solve into technology. You're going to build a team that you're going and i always see this into spot. Leaders eat last. If you're the first one takes first dibs. Do eat in the buffy table then fundamentally Broken because it's never about you. Okay now what are the three other things sexual. I one But the second one second okay because the fifties is unique thing so second big what is gonna be sliding enough of founders. The level of critical thinking You know you need the certain level not on the list. Nickel thing king. You'd to harvard at strategic thinking. Yeah thirty s Commitments that fits. This is really for the long term For this is is honesty. This you need to be who you are. Even yoursel began. Last is is a big factor. Have steak restaurant. Fullness batances bra to we are we are founders helping founders community. You have to have a feed forward at who's to be part of the space so if it's not in your nature It's probably not the right community for you. And those who will future will want to join the cats speak. This you're saying. The interview i'll clincher. Most deeper i am by eight years of beta flights. A day know weather. You are genuine kind of time. We also have false positives do three percent again just like any type of Business right there. There's always going to be mississippi but at the end of the day. If you're wins that are more diffe- that's only two to three percent. That's an excellent job. Misdeed now i wanna move forward in terms of how you guys built the team. I mean the hustle. It cannot just be you and you know earlier or book. Now it's butch. I want to understand a couple of things first. One what change and how did you also adjust an hustle from the early era into bush era. How did you adjust the. How did you pivot the my guess into a better thing because one thing that's remarkable about. Espn whatever there's a change of leadership of course there's always adjustments to be made. There's always going to be challenges need to overcome. But you've you've you've transitioned really seamlessly. And i wanna i wanna give credit to that To you for that because you've been the constant person who's always been there regardless of who's again at the had but how did you guys change and adapt to that that the leadership change and also to become better at it. No one from the wine s we'd have been founder. of course we may have been listening. We always listened to our startup. Founders and dots was the driving force of the evolution and the change over the years so for the first thing years. We were very idea. Of course okay. This idea is great. Oldest. there's a trend here. This is gray. No matter as a student you are are mid career We'll go for it because of that idea. We need a nice you know after the years. Now it's really is founders. That matter so on years three criteria changed a lot Near four issue where we implemented so years was reality. It is the theme that being the theme and then year. Four is the executioner reading the stats. Seeing weather service. Our filtering break area is and we just went to hornet and continued to re apply every year moving forward. I am grateful to earle in the beginning because he was very good market. News was everywhere just to promote a us aid. So i'm grateful to earle for that and then when which means the fixture i'm also very grateful that he's been able to have the support of the 'em he grew. Why the so we stay the big companies Overweight ill a movie. But with bush we have been able to come up with mrs dana. Built nine for ideas going to the begging bowl forever. We don who was the defendant on on the mvp group of companies to survive on saw. We now have a real financial model. That's that's true that investing in more one mature side ops and getting their referring. These exits will now into investing in the early siege. So this'll advantage say you really invest in the early stage. You see them in their role you see them on the go through the evolution and when the right time comes it's you know them probably more that of vc. Because you've seen this you know core of the fast. So hopefully i theories didn't has to be proven also startup in nature right now. You have to pay that again. Coming from being a for profit became a grant or a grant based and now you're seeing that they're also now investing for profits so that you can sustain the whole entity without having to again always ask for support from the from the The piece of and we want to invest in nine last week. He starts to start this equal risky involved. You want the in the less risky. It's it's for the sake of sustainability ideas saw some startups. They feel bad because there are some idea stays and then invest in them but Resigned they will realize now we just safer the riskless Justify their rights bilingual will invest in them. But you just need to get traction guys valley. Money were so. Don't make it a personal thing. Then use it as fuel to fire. Do your fire. Keith jack sean. And sustainability a crew proving. This model will work And we also know mind that it doesn't have to be fixed in you know fit this model that will review worth if this is what worth and you also see what's the future of your product. Line he so and trash on our. You're talking about this theme. So how seen in the in space has evolved right. I really happy about him enough. Today i've never had a strong female as the one. I have the because most of our teammates now are former founders to Gone through the process and also fade. So this is the kind of culture does he wants to make sure. And we've been no. They've gone through the the failure most of the theme is Yeah i'm not. One far members of us are farmers. Start the phone and then He likes these. Our industry been. I mean the main experts either. Shot up your knees wherever you are. Yes I have never had a strong ask. The one i have to the readings very fortunate and thank god was support set when the pandemic struck Once we had a being like this that's all been able to survive the transition. You know certain kind of we were fixed before In thinking god are accelerator. Program would have to be face to face but we could do it. Maybe this is moving forward. This is gonna but also shout out to the people that you've had before in the world by guy i i i'm grateful to the very first Employee of ideas as which is dustin out dusty. Yeah yeah and then trina shot slow kluber in surfers injury Be first local in burien. Wow and he became an fly and then there's school the grand also came in as a fresh graduate and she is now heating an accelerator programs. I'm very happy that almost everyone who was part of ideas space before are part of the greater community gear. A if they're not the nocal- ecosystem there part of the eco system. So i'm very happy that there's an ideas face it's is a factor was really ours today. In what they're doing okay. Now misdee- i have to take another break with you again and we come back. Let's be forward To the startup founders. Either marvin. let's talk about that more. After the break jason la bestselling author speaker and now the host of the unique life. Podcast where i discussed the four different types of personalities so that you know your strengths and weaknesses in battle others. Join me as we try one box life and the wonders of your old unique personality. Only here in podcast network asia. I'll catch you there. Hey hustlers let's take a quick break to discuss one very valuable expensive lessons that i have learned through sorta founder. You see back when. I built my nightlife app called party file. I chose to be frugal at the wrong. Things allocated my very limited resources on things like deb work without taking into consideration. How users will use our app when we launch. It was so enamored with the idea. That once i got the app out in the app store and people started downloading it. I won't have any problems anymore so wrong because it's already hard and super expensive to acquire users to use your mvp and it's even more expensive him to keep users in using an app that crashes because you chose to use a wrong service now. Luckily there's a solution to this problem. That will not break the bank which is aws the beauty about aws. The most comprehensive in broad the accepted plow platform. We're the world's most successful companies use it. It is also very start friendly. Why because it has the most functionalities so whatever you kind of build in whatever architecture language. It's certain that it's going to work there. Also flexible where you only pay for what you use so that your servers can also expand when you have that spike of users in your app or website will not crash now. 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But then you know you've will let you shouldn't be in the events. The name is out there We have to be we. That was a failure being all sorts of things mean if we wanted from audience ways we need to be the kind of events where the kind of founders set we are. Hustle share so before we were in schools are not because that will get the mark of birds but then in a free sale mark zuckerberg is a free one in a minute so we want to realize that. Find the founders. We need are the ones that kind of under want in our community are the ones with five. Ten years of work experience domain expertise so That's rigo the the the exposure in those areas where we don't some of the universities field by the way not fritzy faith being so much more but then there are other entities that school to the phones. And i'm very happy that i feel has invested in more than twenty universities across the chief of technology visit into bazars. They're good. yeah so that's one failure The other failure as a manager is choosing wrong both and where really and should have full out. They were already foil the rest of the dozen. That's one of my failures dot enough. I'm okay now. I'm glad my teammates. Forgiving of course who cannot forgive mother and that's what it what what what what is Takes humility when you mess up. Come clean Put it out in able move forward and make sure you don't do it again. Now miss the. I wanna ask you. Because you've seen hundreds and thousands and thousands of startups. But in your opinion what what makes what what are the correct the ristic's of startups that eventually. Make the investor rams. Were you know the the point of the world. The they you. That's an exit for you right. What are the what's in those startups that making. What are what's not in those startups eventually. Fail for things The on being us as i said earlier south aware founder. Ourselves aware seeing. Because if you don't know your strength in your weakness s you will not be able to draw up with financial. It's the connection because if let's say for example you're not good product development. No one in your team is good at thought of development. How are you going to get the product development person. Are you going to partner. Are you going through. If you're going to hire you have money. If you don't have money would offer shares up the chair. That's equates to your financial planning to be financial flat so you're not self aware not be able to come up with financial floods very easy. No their customer. They're obsessed with their customers. Save on your next obsessed about styled on. Yeah because like our customer so obsessed. Ms making a veteran vitamin for them. Anyway so are good founder. So who wear obsessed of all the us summer understanding the customers. They should be able to build a themselves. The story it's you've a lot of cash if you want to build a product six never ending injury but if the racial integration if you get a software development house to orlando six the bendix a whole if your pockets are no new video. Brian a lot of cash. So that's why during that. Also an idea sees the give it the the product development to a software house. Run out of cash and is being a good steward of this. I says yes so into a good story. Every scientist it's not only the money of your investor if if some if even being conscientious of the resources you're founders bring into the. They're not even the very thing like some. Some co founders. They get everyday by the work and safe of their co-founders. That's because maybe the co founder is not being the founder. that's fine before in the connections that they fought in. You know fix a lot sometimes to rain in the financial. Just swallow your pride. You know he must be muscle. You saw vegan more land of that so those four things summarizes self awareness understanding the customer building abroad and being goods. Wait service license. Got it last couple of questions if you were to give one one solitary advice to any startup founder. Right now That you know that. That's in in those trenches. Wanting to you know basically me eight nine years ago. You know just being a greenhorn talking to you mr dean great nightlife startup. And i don't know what to do. What would be. That's one solitary advice. Summit all up to a young startup founder. Wanting to put you know assured that meet percy Great his own start up at the moment what would that be. Integrity yourself integrity. Your full founders to your customers on to the government's just be authentic and have integrity. I think it's very important values. That's solid right there. Talking about you wasn't anything bombastic solid because sometimes that's what it takes right so much glitz and glamour and a lot of ruckus in the game. But you'll that's that's the most important thing you know. At the end of the day. What people work with people they can trust and at the end of the day. If you're a startup is trustworthy. People your users do that your customers your clients wherever the money will come from see that and if that product ball selected me that's founders. Now mr de from your end. What still keeps you up at night because of the startup ecosystem right because this any you're be startup As well what keeps you up at night giving the gravity of of the responsibility you have on your shoulders as well many things many things keep up with ny. One thing is the looking for money via space ourselves sustainable Looking for money to be able to invest in the start of such will deliver the exits looking far in the sure. Another one is the kind of something. I can only through work on. I think it's the whole equity to them sipping startups very ourselves to asean. We're so far behind let. Somebody's don't think that such a bloom thing it's lewis. Feary os antics does so We were part of this project in a it was a in basle project so it was funded. Projects involve three universities in the philippines to donate john and the philippine one of the philippine universities. was sharing that one of the stars often sudan startup teams in their university was a building a coin changer. And then the you know the professors from indonesia where not being the a coin changer. So the philippines professor said you guys don't understand coins because you know your money is in milan's you if you know you're you're you're rose so that you understand what coins neem do everyday and know that indonesian professor was laughing. North mean we know what's more than money is. Do you know about beg ours. In these that he a smartphone and seed wrench if the grassroots in indonesia are already that level where here we still are using money in so far behind of a in malaysia master nastier. I found out that the government is subsidizing businesses even bombing fox fifty percent of the cost of any technology that they would like to evolve in make their mom and foot the air. It can be a face six machine shop. But if they're going to buy an inventory system to inventory oil the faults and knots and welding rods. they have They would subsidized so no one gets left behind and wall. I worry about our startups. We i guess we need to grow more has more. The other is As i said integrity i'm really freeing all the startups that are getting funding. The days are getting. That's getting all the vc funding that they re use the money for growth. Not off these fancy office in dc or wherever no maybe growing and building those products Now we be in the. We won't be in the radar screen of the investors in pheno heeds don't have foodstuffs only who will work on you again. Thank you very much. miss deeper. Such an amazing episode. And i'm glad you are buying. But before i let you go misdee- it's the star. It's it's was this season again. Forgetting the the new a startups waiver next back so please invite people over startup founders over do now join the next wave of the idea speeds competition. Yeah so my my message or for the side of once adjoined idea. Space fall for apple is jain are join our event so that you get with this program is the right one or if wouldn't wait a year or through because we're a be here For many years. And that's cool so soft. Few ideas fees kanders if you know them and then join our events than we can connect you nyum ideas. This gets no weather leading program on everyone. If it's for those who have save money so that the it's for those who are really Have the team with together so fix a bit reparation of those go into it. In jumping through the watching a good to hear founder good fonder knows risks and plans out and Actually a good word. Businessman is not not a risk taker. Risk reducer mitigate that risk. Yeah okay again misty. Thank you very much. But before i let you go. Follow whatever podcast. You're listening to spotify apple podcasts. Or whatever and again if you did see some job gun you want to check out anything that we talked about today. It's going to be this show on hostile chair dot com and again if we don't want to get involved in this as well go to the house on facebook lasting chat checkbook dot e slack hustle share powered by again. Misdee- you very much. Thank you very much run. Thank you. And i'd like eventually reading so proud of seemed evolution survive sung thousands. This day make you join mother head us. Thank you very much. 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10 Trivia Questions on Chicago

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10 Trivia Questions on Chicago

"It's thirteen questions on Chicago trivia with my friends MO and Brenda Martinez. From patriot. This is trivia with buds. Be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host. Ryan buds. Thanks for checking out my show, if you like trivia, you're in the right place, and maybe you stumbled across this show on your travel to and from the big geek bowl in Las Vegas this past weekend. Shout out to my friend, Russ to wall and his trivia army that won the big first place there at the ball. I just recently even found out what the geek bowl was. So check it out just Google geek bowl, Las Vegas. You'll find a bunch of pictures, and and posts and all kinds of stuff about the event, and I'm definitely going to try and go next year. It's basically like this giant geeks who drink trivia tournament, and there's like thousands of dollars in prizes, and that goes to charity. So a lot of good stuff happening there and Russ free to wall who is a patriots scribe to this show and a pal of mine over on Facebook. Now, he won so congrats I'm gonna have him on the show soon to kind of talk about how. All went down and how the questions were. So if you like that kind of thing get ready for Russ also today, get ready for some Chicago trivia, I got ten questions for married. Couple Mohan Brenda Martinez who are patriot subscribers of this show and are just a ton of fun. They are very active over in the discord app chat. And if you donate a dollar more on patriot dot com slash trivial buds, you could join us over there. And all of our trivia banter. These two are tons of fun and brenda's big reader and mow is a big Chicago tour guide kind of guy. And he writes a lot of trivia questions for company in Chicago as well. So lots of good stuff in this one. It's a it's a long twenty minute episode a little bit longer than our episodes as of late. But I think you will enjoy it. We're going to jump to those ten questions with Brendan MO right now. Here we go. Sitting here on a phone call with my two pals in Chicago, where I understand it about thirteen degrees, which I feel pretty good about because it's probably like sixty here in California. I'm talking to Martinez and Brennan Martinez. What's up guys? Hey, thanks for being on the show. You guys have been big supporters of mind for a while. So I just wanted to thank you over the phone for joining on the patriot very early on. And it's very rare and very cool that both of you live in one household but subscribe separately to the patriots. Thank you so much. Waltz really cool. Very quiet now MO MO Uehara trivia host is well, right or you just write trivia for trivia who's just writing used to host. Now, I'm just a s two years. Just rining kind of hearts, go out and hose. Yeah. Man. I know all about it. What are your favorite kind of rounds to write like what's unique one you came up with recently that you had fun coming up with. Looking to sleep. But my favorites are the audio rounds. Yeah. Like that was like I would write actually around on Chicago bands on while back. Just like our artists where I'll play about fifteen seconds of of clip animate ethnic the artist song guys. Tears of got like metal covers of songs. I love that. And so when you're preparing that for the company, you work for the hosts that you work for are, you cutting all those tracks and make an audio files and all that stuff or you just give them the idea of it. And then they have to figure out all that. Are literally just check our point presentations and resent up in like a bunch of Mars. So. What we had in all of its clipped and everything picture cruise or set off ages happily play it. It helps them if they obviously read a little bit for look through it before that. So we're not going be blind Scheuer. That's a good way. Doing it. Very cool and Brenda are you a host or more of just a trivia connoisseur. I just really like show. Yeah. I definitely not much hosting. Did you know meet under any trivial circumstances? Funny when you say. Very trivia base. But. Yeah. Go into that. Right. There are in each. There was a Barak east Chicago nam on that. I was owning. And she was one over rental, and we kind of met there. This Osama generous drunk. That's the serve a lot of good relationships. I think. We'll stay. With them. We wish. Wow. That's amazing. That's awesome tonight. You got a family together. And you guys are raising a daughter named Annabelle. Who's also the name of my daughter spelled a little differently. But we have that in common. That's pretty cool. Right. And how old is your animal? Eight eight years old. Okay. So they're about four years apart. She my daughter will say the other day. I said she goes, what are you doing? I go I'm sending some stuff to my friends, and they go they have a daughter Nate man about and she goes another Annabel, I got a meter. We got we got to set that up. So that'll be cool. Quick side story about e Chicago that just popped in my head. I opened for a clown. When I did a lot of stand up in the mid west in his name was I don't know. I don't know grumpy the clown or frumpy the clown. He's like a real alcoholic drunk clown. I can't think of his name of top of my head. But it was at a a bar that you could smoke in east Chicago in probably two thousand seven and. It was pretty wild. What I'm trying to say is I wish I would've met my future wife there as well. That you can say that the clowns lane was homey, the clown. Oh, yeah. You gotta watch out. Because he don't play that guys. We're going to jump into some questions more requested this topic. He said what about some Chicago trivia since we're all kind of from Chicago. And I said, let's do it. So we are going to do ten questions on Chicago. And you guys are gonna battle in this. This'll be a good old fashioned battle of the spouses today, and we'll ask ten questions, and you're going to buzz in with Chicago related word. I thought this one would be fun being because of the giant metal beam in one part. Okay. Okay. So when you know, the answer, you gotta wait for the whole thing to be ready. You're going to buzz in with the word being whoever gets more right out of the ten will be crowned champion, and I will send you a little something extra in the rewards for March something Chicago related. That's what I'll find find something cool. There you go. All right. Any questions before we begin? Really? Here we go. This is question. Number one for Chicago trivia buzzed in with the words, being the world's Columbian exposition was a world's fair held in Chicago for may until October in what year. Ooh. That was very close. But I'm gonna say Brenda Brenda was a little louder. So I'm gonna say Brennan. Eighteen ninety three eighteen ninety three. Nice job that guy. What's his name h h Holmes? He was murdering all kinds of people. Yep. He's they're making a movie Hulu series with leader. Capri. Oh, did you see that? What ten years? Yeah. But I think actually I think I think who bought it. So it's Martin Scorsese and Leonardo DiCaprio, and I think it's a ten episode series. So that'll be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I hear your big reader. What is the last? Good book you read. The man was last cool book you read. Oh, you on the Netflix series you from Netflix? I was like you read my book. I don't have a book. Not yet. I have this cool idea for a book you guys want to hear it. So it'd be like a trivia book. So each chapter would have a trivia quiz. But there'd be a story about something that happened to me in my life that then goes into trivia on a subject. So for example, like I just did a show at the LA Lakers that was kind of super random, and it was like under these very weird circumstances. So I was like, oh, I could tell that story in the book. And then at the end of the chapter there's like ten question quiz on the Lakers. So it gives you if you're trivia fan reason to play the trivia. But also like this interesting story that kind of goes with it. What are your thoughts on that? Getting odd cast with like originally too because you always stories lead into what you're. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I did that it's hard to do that every single day. And when I when I do able to do it now, I'm like man that was a pretty good one. But it's harder especially with time and stuff to always find a way to kind of tie it together. But I do need to try and do that more often. So yeah, there you go. All right. Good job brenda's up one point. Here's question number two. Which of these sitcoms did not take place in Chicago was at family matters Keenan in cal- Samantha who or Caroline in the city. Brenda. Setting. It was Carolina city. Nice job. It was that was a sitcom that took place in Manhattan. And it started Leah Thompson as cartoonist all the other three shows were Chicago-based, which I didn't realize I didn't realize Keenan Cal was Chicago until I looked it up. There. You know Cal. Up through. Carolina. Shitty. Does some it's like cartoonist in Manhattan. I could have just made that up right? Then. The girl from Howard, the duck moves to Manhattan. Here's number three. What celebrity couple had a baby named Chicago January eighteenth two thousand eighteen. I wanna say. Okay. Yep. Came in Konya nice job Kim and Kanye west or Kim Kardashian. And Kanye west either way, you got it nailed it. Are you a fan of either them? There you go. That's good. That's why we're friends. All right. Number four what Chicago landmark sits at six hundred East Grand in features on one hundred ninety six foot tall ride eight Brenda. His navy period. You know, the ride. Yes. But fair fairus wheel. Have you been on that? Anytime too many times I have a wife who's scared of ferris wheels. Which is a weird thing she doesn't mind heights, but she hates ferris wheels. I don't know why. 'cause it's actually on clothes accord. It was like a traditional. Oh, yeah. Maybe she would. That's a good point. I wonder if she would like the Vegas one, right? That's enclosed. There's a bar on one of them and stuff. That that'd be pretty sweet. All right. It is three to one Mon needs more points to catch up. Here's number five movie. The break-up takes place in Chicago who were the male and female leads of the film. Brenda. Oh god. What is a? Three seconds. Just be his unresisted phase on rested is the perfect word for this. All right. Mojo for the steel. Jennifer Aniston had it's nice job mo- comes in. And now it's two to three well done. All right. That was I think I was I think I tried to be an extra movie there were a lot of movies around two thousand five that I was an extra in dark Knight or not dark Knight, Batman, begins and. Stranger than fiction with will Ferrell. And I think the long shots which was with KiKi Palmer and ice cube. I think those were all movies that I was I was in or I tried to get in. I'm definitely in stranger things, you could see me for a second. Which is a great movie have you ever seen that movie? Stranger than fiction will Farrell. It's about a guy starts hearing, a narrator narrate his life like a book, you'd love it Brenda as reader. It's pretty cool. But I watched it when those there you go that's that is the curse of certain movies. That are good. You're like, I know this is probably good. But then you fall asleep. And it's kinda like you can't ever enjoy the rest of your life. I've done that plenty of times. Yes. Do. So at some point you can check out the show on called. Easy. Okay. And I don't know if there is on what I think it was two years ago going stuff like three or by the one of the first three episodes of that season. I I actually did a whole big with our work lying at the at the trawling company that we work for everything. And I ended up being an extra that along the couple's co workers, and my one of my coworkers ashes featured in that show following Kim Brown his life as comedian Amazon as a trolley running room, but not so what's his name? His name is not or just call them. That's so funny. 'cause I pretty sure I have a comedian friend named Brian Christopher who was a bartender on the show easy. If it's the same show is it about just like live like bars and living in Chicago like nightlife kind of things. Hookups the episode that is caused by. Info and funnily enough actually still getting residuals off of that. Amazing. Oh, and you didn't have lines. And you're still getting some some love. Oh, you did. But we don't ask questions writing plane tourists were the assing on talking at the US Open like okay since we had this were getting patients after like, oh my God. I've actually made it now. That's awesome. It's all about those residuals. If you get one line, I remember I opened for a comedian like twelve years ago who his name was Jaideep. I think and he was in barbershop one and he had like one line. He like comes into get a haircut or something. And he made I remember him telling me he's got fifteen thousand dollars to be in the movie, and then like every time the movie got sold to DVD or two TBS to air or like all the different things that happen to a movie he would get like half of what he originally got paid. So like he got like fifteen thousand and seven thousand five hundred thirty three hundred two thousand and it kept going down, but he made money on that one little line for like ten years. It's pretty cool. If anyone you think about that, you're like one line in a movie that people may or may not remember or might get cut out. But they still pay you for all that stuff. And it's like, then you think of like an actor being in one thing where they say a million lines. And then the, you know, like something like the Simpsons how many times the Simpsons airs. And if you're getting half of what you got paid for one episode. It's insane. It's crazy. And that's why people do it. Here. We got this is number six what Frank Sinatra song starts off with the line. Now, this could only happen to a guy like me. Brenda. I kind of Tom my kind of town. She's got four points to most to that is the Frank Sinatra song you guys Frank Sinatra fans like that's gonna couple of others. The with. I like love and marriage for married with children. That's fun which I didn't realize I didn't realize it was Frank Sinatra until like last year. I was playing it. And I was like, oh, yeah. How did I not realize his voice? Pretty cool can use it just like that big band. Kruger's been timing. It. Sure was sure was here's number seven. How many miles is driving Chicago to L A if you literally type that into Google maps the closest without going over. We'll get the point. So you can each guests. So driving. If you just put Chicago to LA, no specific place, just Chicago to Los Angeles in Google maps. What is the the mileage that comes up have Mogo? I. Or under or eight two thousand four hundred forty eight and Brenda I'm gonna gonna win one miles. One hundred and seventy eight two thousand one hundred seventy eight. Okay. So two thousand four hundred forty eight thousand one hundred seventy eight it was two thousand fourteen when I did it just a few minutes ago. So Brenda has one because you guys both went over. But she was a little closer. So yes. Justice pretty spot on bursting that are action two years least. Released this road trick. Out to earth zone portion of that way. We actually traveling along route six oh nice. We have a picture at the big where it was a mid point. Cafe I think it's like emperor thinks. Dick sign. LA one thousand small amounts this way thousand miles like state people that was. That's awesome. So, you know, based on this that would be like one thousand seven miles this way in one thousand seven miles way. That's cool. That's cool that you guys were so close with guessing because of that trip honestly thought it was like tenth and India the nine. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I'm sure you know, whatever I looked up. I didn't look into it too much. So I'm sure yours might be even a little bit more accurate than mine. But nice job. We're on question. Eight we got three left multi get all three of these. You will be tied. Here we go number eight, everyone knows the windy city. But Chicago is also known as the city of big blank. Let's say MO shoulders the shoulders. Yes refers to. Sorry. Do you know what that refers to? Actually, I don't think I do from what I found. It says Chicago was called hog butcher for the world because of its huge meat-processing industry that book the jungle examined in the early nineteen hundreds which is a great book. That's Brandi every that one I have not who the jungle. It's real good. Check that out the jungle I to read in college. So they called it. They called it the city of big shoulders or broad shoulders because of its importance to the nation in terms of just a meat packing. Yeah. I guess I guess like like, you know, like, they're standing with their shoulders out. Like, we do all this work with meat. I guess I don't know or unless they are literally talking about like, cutting the shoulders shoulders of meat from different animals, and that really sure it wasn't super clear, but that was number eight. Yes. She in the stockyards like our office located right in the heart stockyards, what was should not guards. Now, you make little poster hanging up, and you can claim that as your own you say, you you look at. All right. Here's number nine. We got two left to could tie his wife number nine what game sequel pre grand theft auto that players getting out of their car to explore and started off at storyline and the bar and Chicago's. Oh, jeez. And it's like excited of this. And it's. Any guesses? They're taking it over pre grant Dodd got to get out of your car to explore. It was the first game. I think of its kind to do that. We're to just the driver. It is correct driver to. That's what I was. Nice job four to five. He could actually Ty. I didn't think he's gonna pull it off who's great driver too. I remember my brother Scott renting that game over and over again and always always having late fees on it and. I just actually a couple hours ago sold my PlayStation four to a guy on Facebook marketplace because I only really play the switch now because I don't have that much time. And if I do I want something more casual and the PlayStation four, which is sitting there. So I sold it to this guy for two hundred twenty bucks. I feel pretty good about it. Pretty solid you'll Pearl upper yet a PS four like now, I don't think I think I got it with a TV package than I gave the TV to my father in law. And I think the whole package was like four fifty. So I don't feel like I lost too much money for having it for almost three years. So. Yeah. There you go. Exactly. All right. It's four to five will this end in Brenda win or tie between lovers number ten. What Chicago hot dog ingredient is also found in a Bloody Mary or Caesar cocktail. Only say say. For emperors. That would be incorrect. Brenda guest. Mary what Chicago hot dog ingredient is also found in a Bloody Mary or a Caesar cocktail, which are very similar. It'll here. It is not a pickle spirit with celery, salt, celery salt. Yeah. That's what I was looking for so Brenda is the winner by one point nice job brand. She she I wouldn't say dominated. But it was a pretty close battle the whole time. Nice job guys. You did very well. I mean, there's ten questions you only between the two of you only miss that last one some good jobs. Very cool. Anything you guys wanna plug before we take off? I know what you want. Yeah. There's I don't. Looking glenn. Be on Twitter and was the other thing, Instagram Snapchat. What kids do now? Audio. What's your what's your handle on there? Artsy? That's right. Mora cartel MOR. I see a RTL very cool. Any last questions? I think you said you had a couple of Chicago questions for me anything off the top of your head. Yeah. We were trying to figure some nobody can ask you. If you can let's do like three of those. I'll say if I'm going to say I can guarantee I can answer one out of three how about that. Okay. Okay. Fun. Okay. Simple. I spent a one it is the longest continuously running street in Chicago. Longest continuously running street in Chicago. That's a tough question. I actually have no idea. I have a lot of guesses. Okay. My I guess is Cicero. Not even close. Okay. More east. Okay. A little more east lake shore drive's. I'll get no. That's all. Might be knowing close to right between them depending over your city. Exactly. Polaski? Little close. All right. What was it western? Yes. That would make sense. Okay. I could if I had ten guesses definitely would've got it. All right. I'm zero for three. Let's see if I can get the second one. That's a good question. Brindamour she on this one on Chicago. The only public sculpture by this twentieth century artist. Not no sculptures the only sculpture by this twentieth century artist. Only sculpture. Rearms twentieth. Century artists. I'm going to say. Devon, Devon sour from casper. I don't really guess good. It's bro. One might stay on Mishel. God. Jim Belushi, John John Belushi. I figured that would clear of movie which clean into ocher. I got. No, I'm so I'm drawn a blank on this one. What do you got? Okay. L? The kid you slide down it. It is my parents never took me into the city. They were scared of it. So I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay. What is public have to do is blues? Brothers. Gotcha. Okay. That's a movie. I have not close watched. I've only seen it like in passing and on TV like on cable and stuff. But that is great question. And I feel very very salty even celery salty for not getting. All right. What's the third one? I got a nail this one. Think of good one to these are like hard negative. Yeah. Yeah. That is a really. So procreate Louis what Bill being a now resides at the site of where the great fire started. Ooh. I definitely have read this somewhere. What building is where the great Chicago fire started. Is it a skyscraper? Or like, a smaller thing. To the hands. But I began the question with appropriate. Okay. Five of the great Chicago. Okay. So something hot or fiery. Is it a chapel lay? Let's see something something appropriate Lee where the Chicago fire started no idea the Hancock building. So wait. That. It would be the fire academy fire academy. The Chicago fire academy is where the fire started. Well, that's that's what's there now virtually far, but at that site, they put all the fire captains, which is super appropriate things fire star there. Now, we train our firefighters. There is the perfect little piece of trivia to end this episode nice job mall and Brennan stumping me times three to. I dunno. Start your own trivia podcast. I guess you guys have to do it. Now. We don't want to take away from you. It's just a year. Thanks so much guys. That means the world, thanks for listening. And thanks for being part of this episode you too and thanks so much for your patronage and support over the years. I appreciate it. We enjoy listening to you. Cool. Thank you, check out the book. I sent you. Did you get your did? You get your book yet? I have. 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If you wanna check it out if you're into that kind of thing just send us like screens. Yeah. We'll we'll see how it goes. But this new one should be good. So I can't wait to crack it open and get a little discussion going over on the dischord app chat. You guys are very active on their so thanks for always type stuff in and getting people chatrooms. All right, cool. Thanks, guys. This episode will go up tomorrow. And I'm looking forward to to have you on again, very soon. Thank you. All right. Take it easy guys. Boom there. It was ten questions for me in three bonus ones for Moen Brenda that completely stumped me. How did you do on those questions? Did you know those last three of you, did I think you're a real smarty pants because I had no idea from I guess you tell that even though I'm from Chicago. I'm very Chicago suburban when it comes to knowing anything about the city proper. But hey, maybe you are from the suburbs or the city as well. 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