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Recapping A Bray Wyatt Heavy SmackDown

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Recapping A Bray Wyatt Heavy SmackDown

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Lin Media was going to go on but everything points to not only a man with gray y but somebody having a match with I like it I like it and you know another thing that I like Marquette. You're going to hear over the course of this. podcast edition of Busted Open. Radio that is kind of the continuing comedic of one Randy Orton which he never expect. But I think is adding so much debt and on the on the podcast. You'll you get to hear some of what we talked about as it relates to Randy Orton and his comedic time. And you're also going to get to here Bark Henry as it is a Saturday Saturday. We are going to break down the world that was in pro wrestling as we give you our weekly wetter. Let's go what did you say. Mark Henry let's go bust busted open. I'm just blown away sometimes with The his ability to take you out of wrestling like it's he's he's he's getting out of wrestling and getting into horror. He's he's making you look at him. Like oh man. This guy's crazy like this guy's deranged. He could hurt somebody like he. He puts you in suspended belief and I love the performances that he's been putting on as of late as of late of his whole career mark. Henry I mean very y. What no matter really what? He's doing who who is surrounded with who he's feuding with. I think I'm going back in the annals of history here you know six seven years however long you've been on the main roster I'm trying to say there have been instances. Where if it was anyone else? The angles would have failed miserably. If this firefight funhouse was was done by anyone else. I don't see how how it would've worked. And that's a testament to Bray Wyatt when he or any character right. It's the same thing for the undertaker right trying. Imagine someone else in that position is unfathomable. That's when you know that. You've carved a perfect niche for yourself and really I don't I don't WanNA WANNA get to ahead of myself but it often feels like bray. Wyatt can do wrong. Like I feel like you could just throw bad gimmicks Adam month after month and he could make the work not to say this is about. This is what you get what I'm saying. Mark Henry Yeah I get it He is He believes his his you. Now I guess and From Layman's terms He believes it's bullshit and it's hard to sometimes sometimes step into yourself and say this is what I want to portray an actually do it. which is a credit to him as a performer But also like the the laughing the under you know like pulling people in yeah change in direction and he'll be serious serious a serious can be and then all of a sudden he'll go. I'm just joshing and laugh and man. I'm telling you is the best this thing wrestling today. Yeah I don't disagree. I think I think you could make the argument that it's been the best thing and wrestling at least in terms of the wwe. I don't want to you know. Get The new new Japan and Okada and some of the things that you know in terms of in ring some of the matches that have been happening across the gamut but just strict entertainment value strict keeping you guessing assing strict appointment viewing television and always having something and being able to make something out of it. Bray Wyatt is at the top of the food chain. He's just he's he's much whilst television now last night. Mark the feud. I don't even know what's going on. I I'm not exactly what's happening opening. Like I say the feud between Daniel Bryan and the fiend is taking a turn. Obviously we didn't see Daniel Bryan last night Bryant making reference to what we don't really know yet we'll get into to that in a second but more importantly the feud between Bray Wyatt now. A- again I don't know what's going on. There used to be separation there right last night. We we saw Bray Wyatt attack. The MS in what was seemingly a break from character in the sense that it felt like debris white was doing the fiends bidding or at least on some level he was controlled by the fiend. Last night he breaks off any kind of handles business on his own so I I don't know if there's a departure from that happening but even before we get to that Mark Henry I I want to focus on the the bringing in of the family of the Ms You bring in Maurice You bring in the two kids now Gabby brought up a great point. Gabby you said said you thought potentially bringing in the family might coincide with reality. TV show that they do. Yeah I mean I don't know if you watch MS and Mrs but I do because I keep up with all like the reality stuff that goes in total but you're a little bit more familiar with their family asset aspect if you do watch the show like you know that that they're married and they have this fun loving relationship and you know the daughter because she's on the show and you know Maurice just had the second baby so you're kind of emotionally a little bit more connected to them because because you see them on a different show like I was watching with my father I was telling you. And he's like own little monroe like that's so cute. I feel like it was a different random person like I would know the the name of somebody else's child if they didn't have a separate like reality show so I feel like you're a little bit more emotionally invested. Because they have their own little thing which could be something or not. Well I also so at Mark I feel like that helps with blurring the lines right in terms of if you've got this character as you set them up as is this horror show as this as almost like a fictional movie character. Yeah it's like a horror movie as you put it right. And then you've got the reality TV show star in the MS and his wife and his family the blurring of lines. I mean that creates an interesting dynamic. That's what they're going for. You know. I think it's more the fact that Bray Wyatt sees that I don't think the fien the sees MS and his family. I think that Bray Wyatt sees the MS and his family as a means to control the MS and Dan. Ms Is Mid as much as ms won't to come across as hey I'm a star. Now he's a dad right husband and he's got to protect his house and any man woman that tries to infiltrate. The sanctity of your home is putting themselves in danger. and Ms Fighting to keep his home save is GonNa put an edge on miss to and I. I'm I mean we're we're putting a lot of stock in the the confusion and the horror Laura that Bray Wyatt and the fiend can can bring to ms but have you ever seen a man protecting his home like like this is life or death and you got a small baby and a wife does like. Hey what's going on. Why's Bray Wyatt art showing a picture of us? Yeah like that. That's that's really close to home. That's way literally too close to home and you know an attitude to there we. We saw the Steve Austin issues and we saw You know AAA blagent. Brian Perelman like all of the stuff that happened in outside the arena. Going to people's houses and stuff baffoni getting up -ducted right Stephanie. Ginning affected like maybe we'll see another one of those type of things appear here in the next couple of weeks. Well you know what I'd like. You brought up the phone call. I thought that added a a nice little pincher realism in there. I thought MS MS consistently is one of the better Mike men in the entire not just the WWe but in the business he really liked that conversation pursue that he had. Marie set that up to the seriousness level for me. If anybody was on the fans I thought that was a nice dose of believability thrown in there. Oh God yes I mean is the the fact that he's a you know you don't hear Maurice's voice but the way that is you know handle the call. It was like you could hear her talking. And that's that's that's exactly that's talent. That's that's that's having the ability to reach your audience and have audience understand you without another person being as the same equivalent of the wrestler working with a broomstick working with invisible man. A lot of people don't realize how much talent that required Michael you're hearing catch busted open live live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius Xm APP. Daniel anew Brian the fiend the MS and Bray Wyatt I it feels like to me mark. Henry that's where they're going with this with the potential that at TLC. We could be seeing a well a long night for one Bray Wyatt both in as and the feet it feels like we could be cava somewhat of a double main event. How do you think they're gonNA work this? You know what I maybe one maybe one or two matches early in the show and then in the main event so oh yeah I don't know I don't know maybe the brand matches I and he maybe just lay down for Bray wide but then is is out there for the fame right and then when when remiss is in there with the with Bray Wyatt maybe Daniel comes back in like no. I can't allow this to happen. And we get down your brand back like the real Daniel Bryan and I'm curious to see what Daniel looks like you know like I. I mean as with all that hair being. I don't know it was. It is beer was it is what it was all right. I'm curious like killing me like can we. Can we hurry up and get to this and I'm always a guy that's like. Hey let's just pump your brakes relaxing. Wait for it to come and I I am man. I can't take it I can't take it it's killing me. It feels like a we. We didn't get them last night. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Daniel until Tlc we'll see A Guy that's I'm gonNA cry. I'm not that long. But it's just the anticipation collision man. I hope he doesn't come back as a trash man. That's my only concern. Let's not let's the last time we saw Daddy. O'Brien leave little. While you know. In in regards to the white or more specifically in that case the white family. He came back looking like he was working for the city so hopefully they learned their lesson which I'm sure they did but no it definitely feels like it's GonNa that'd be something to do with the hair maybe a completely different look. I don't know I would say this Mark it feels like it's time it definitely. I talked about this last week with the Yes movement right right like we don't need to rest on our laurels. That was successful for years. It was an exciting time in pro wrestling. History it's time to move on it. It feels like not only. WWe's burris gotten the menu bar. Or the memo. I should say but a guy who is in tune with his character as an is in tune with the flow and the in the world of professional wrestling. Is Daniel Bryan. Right is it was probably welcome on all sides. Don't you think it was I mean Bro. I don't know if I've been as entertained of as anything other than when mankind undertaker were going at it and it was. It was every week. You know it's GonNa be a war every week. You knew that something was GonNa Happen. That was gonna Kinda even is if you will because always stalled that undertaken had the upper hand on on mankind but somehow mankind always have the undertaker. You're at a deficit by the end of that them running into each other so mark. What do you think? Do you think that's where we're headed. Do you think I think we're we're headed in a split Split in character between the fiend and Bray Wyatt and and and and if so what does it say last night that we saw for the first time since the introduction of the fiend Bray Wyatt now granted he hit them with Sister Abigail he didn't hit him with the with the modified. Yeah yeah mandible. Claw didn't do that so there was that separation of character there but prior to this and it seemed like bright white was being fairly docile right. He kept making reference tool the fiend. Wants this and if he be quiet he's GonNa hear you right. He like he was doing the bidding of the fiend or at least waiting for the fiend. Come around to they do the ultra violent stuff last night. That was not the case. It was bray white who delivered the blessed to the Miz. An felt like we're deviating from that relationship to the point to where I gotta be honest. I'm a little concerned. Mark Henry from the terms of cohesion. I I hope there's a payoff here. Because if not we talk about it a lot right to cohesion. The confusion the lack of narrative. I I hope there is something on this and there is meat to the bone. And it's not just you know being done on a whim. I guess I'll say that. I don't think it's been done on a whim. This this has got to be really well thought out. Yeah and I think this is a point where we get to see Now only the theme in a ring but we get to see Bray Wyatt entering. How long has it been since we've seen it has to go back to like McLean a year? No I don't know how long no no no. How long has it been mark? Since we've seen Bray Wyatt actually bray. Why not the fiend? It's been a long time since we've seen bright white. We're oh yeah. Yeah Yeah it's been over over a year that's a year. Yeah but the thing is is we get the Bray wide in the fun firefly funhouse. We That that's a different guy because we've seen that guy get his ass handed to them. You know you see that you know. Bray Wyatt it seth winning and beating down and burn a the five in house down and I I really do feel like ms can give Bray Wyatt all. He can handle `specially being that he's talking about his family but the thing I miss needs a retreat and worry about his family and keep his his family out the situation with thing. Do you think we could see a situation. Mark where a weakened Bray Wyatt without the fiend per per perhaps loses the wwe title but the fien keeps that scary creepy horror belt that he has like. Could you see them split. Joost Oh so you could I can. I think that would be. Do you think that. Do you think that would be problematic or do you like that idea. I'm not this early a fan of of it but I could see it happening I think that the most important thing is the University of title in the Heavyweight Championship. Those those titles pay important role in pro wrestling In order to standards in which men fight eight over right The Bray Wyatt thing is something for him. Like is you know I forget the movie where those Batman where Alfred was telling them he had a situation where there was a guy that that didn't care about spoils. He didn't care about wealth he cares about power he just wanted to see the world burn. I think I think that the fiend just want to see the world burn as I think the fina wants domination and intimidation and the be on the minds of you all the time and his title would be more important to him than the wwe title so That being said Yeah. I can't see it. I can see him very there will Flaunting carrying in holding that title up as the team and then Bray Wyatt being upset that he lost his title and that's two different entities but they both serve the same master. Just what you say what say you busted open nation. You liked that idea of a split title. Maybe doing a dual character are there and if so what did you see happening in the future. And what do you think's going to happen with this. Do you think we're GONNA get both matches on both nights. You see Daniel Bryan verse the fiend right. The MS his verse Bray White a lot to dissect there and a lot to get into so. Get your thoughts as well. Speaking of. Let's get your thoughts. It's try DB in North Carolina again db what's up man and we'll try this for a second time which the smackdown last night back then with green Like we have a ten thousand arena and would feel bill the brim of people. Like I don't know where this words that w having trouble filling feet it was bill to the ramp and everybody loved the chef. Sound like you sound like a wwe fan that is pissed that people say oh the the aws shows are also down and then big crowds and The wwe is neither is that the case yes. That's the case mark. I am sick sick of it. I'm sick and tired of hearing that. Let me tell you the show entertaining. People love the people they were supposed to love Roman Alexa like lakes Gavin's we Fayetteville loves that show and that's what it is. That's why I'm saying all right. I appreciate the call and you know mark you go back to the crowds. Listen we've seen shows from how shows and for Monday night rose. They've had to pull from the other side and put fans on TV. TV Now it's not just from raw and smackdown we've seen especially over the last couple of weeks eight W is having problems fill in the arenas. I don't know I. I used to holidays the people. A lot of it is is Economics APPS you know the laws put money aside for the Christmas holidays they. They haven't black black Sunday. Sales are black Friday sales to cyber Monday cyber Monday. People spending money hand over fist. You gotta you gotTa make a decision of what you're GonNa do entertainment and might not think that that's what people are spending their money on right now. Absolutely in the point that I was making Mark Henry is that essentially. We don't want to see any empty seats. I don't I don't think there's a rivalry out there now. Maybe I'm I know maybe I'm being unrealistic but outside of a few people that maybe make a Lotta noise in our one side or the other very adamantly. I think everyone if you're rooting against a e W if you feel away you shouldn't want to see empty seats and W and you shouldn't want to see empty seats at the wwe because at the end of the day empty seats the people on the entertainers that we care about the wrestlers athletes. They're not going to get as much shine or is get as much in their bottom dollar as they probably deserve so we just I and bullying everyone everyone legras. Everyone talks about it. We all want the business to be better. We want every single arena in every single venue from New Japan to ring honor to impact power and everything thing in between we wanna see full seats across the country. You know what. Even if there's not four seats we want support to the best of our abilities. His ability as fans to go see pro wrestling when does regardless of what the company is. The business itself is bigger than an individual company. And you know I have my ties to the wwe and they understand that. I'm still always always gonNA be have a place for the WWE in my heart. But as a member of the media I have to be EH. Impartial is like you know in in politics being Being a a non bipartisan. Bipartisan You don't choose the side so When I'm when I'm on his radio and I'm talking about pro wrestling I'm talking about pro wrestling fan and as an analyst and it's important for me to report the wrestling news and we the most important things are the things that are the biggest issues and in sports entertainment and that that is right now? WWe And a e W now when other entities start popping up and hitting the mainstream. Then we'll talk about then. We talked about Imail w last week a lot. We talked about power Two weeks ago like we're reporting the news as succumbs to his guy so Yeah we're we're wwe heavy and we're eighty w heavy right now because Those two companies are doing the most absolutely and they're on TNT IN USA in Fox. I mean those are the the bigger shows. But I've made this point plenty mark and I know we talked about it privately. I feel like the business right now. at least in my lifetime thirty six years on this planet. I don't know if it's ever been better feels like the Internet has brought back the territories. It feels like you can have. I mean Christ. The towers on free on Youtube. I mean that is a free great great great product that you can watch look at what impact is doing. I mean there's just so many different places look just locally here in Vegas at guys. I'm not the only one we have A. We have a bunch outlets here in Vegas. That are doing great things F. S. W. got the Cauliflower Alley Club. I mean just feels like every little little pocket of the country is celebrating pro wrestling in a way that I can't remember and it is It is really really great to see if Sirius. Xm Then listen up commercial free music plus plus sports comedy. Talk 'n news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm I'm out of the car for just one dollar just go to Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. XM DOT COM. Tom Flash busted offer available to new series exempt streaming subscribers Siriusxm no-car required. We have a conversation in the break kind of going back and forth the title and what is the title mean in the shine of title and who needs a title. I we were kind of talking about listen win defeating the title and Saudi Arabia. I was kind of surprised from the standpoint. I didn't think that Bray Wyatt needed a title. He could've kept running roughshod interjecting himself into the nightmares of the superstars and doing what he does. Best and that is that is caused chaos He was a guy that I didn't think needed a title. But there are people in the company that I do think could use a title push and right before we came on to break outbreak. You said Randy Orton needs a title. Randy Orton should be battling for titles kind elaborate on that because Mark I. I'll just say this. Yes I don't think he does. He's got the lineage. He's got the legacy. He's one of the greatest of a generation if anybody does throw him in the category that doesn't need a title so I'm very very curious as to why you think one of the greatest of all time rain your needs another title push. I like it. Because of the historical reference of Randy Orton. He comes comes from wrestling. He's third generation guy. And when Randy Orton has the title is more exciting because he got his is finished could come out of nowhere. He can take a beating. Yes as a hill or baby face having a story you want to be told when Randy Orton uses the equalizer and he wins the title back. He defended the title or he gets beat and loses a title it means more. Aj Styles when AJ style has the title. You know you're GONNA get one a hell of a promo at the beginning of the show. You know that if something's going to happen in the middle of the show with anybody that he's aligned with like the old see and then at the finish and the main event you're going to have a you're you're gonNA have. Aj defend the title in a way that's going to make him a better product for the company aid. They're good for business and they have the wheels guys you need. You need to be able to keep it rolling. Keep the show moving and the show has more movement when you have a guy like Randy Orton. Aj Style House as the title as the guy that whole. Why do you think the Jericho? Oh has the title at eight w well to put well put it over to eventually lose it to to put over everybody that he's GonNa lose it too. But that's the secondary reason the number one reason is because the people identify with with him and they give a damn about him. The people give a damn about Randy Orton they give a damn about. Aj Styles and they said rollins and the gas is much as you people are saying. Not You personally Ryan because you and I see things a lot of the same way I'm saying fans you under appreciate Randy Orton. Randy Orton is one of the most under appreciated appreciated wrestlers in the business. Today he can out work ninety eight percent of the guys that are on the rosters of any company in the world and when he holds the title he makes the title rather than a title making him. And that's a talent to the talent. That's that's A. That's that's respect to the talent. The title is what it is when you win the Super Bowl it means something when super bowl right it means something when you win. NBA Title. It means something when you go to the Olympics and you win a gold medal the title is the Damn title is Never GonNa be tarnished because US multiple people have it. I think it's great when it spread around more. You get more storylines and you get more of the soap opera. Ah in which we love so much that everybody acts like they don't so I can tell me every very anything you want fans as it relates to the titles but I'm GonNa tell you about titles going all the way back to Rome to the Coliseum. Winning was not about a title during those days it was about freedom because most of those people were slaves and they were trying to fight their way out of the coliseum so they could just go live a normal life but in the process. They started adding prizes. Money Homes Lan Dan. That's what became titles. That's that's that's what we look at now as something that you get for win other than the pride of winning so now I want you to look at it like that when you you see a guy vie for the title and you look at what's going on with maybe Ms Beaten Bray Wyatt and taking the title. Oh and then the fien holding onto the fien title and now you can put ms against somebody else. And that's that's the beauty of it. We have options now. We have more than one person. That's has dominating the whole show and that's that's what we need. We need versatility. And and I think that the everybody's caught up in. Yeah I love Bray Wyatt. I love the theme. The kids seen come out and the music intensifies and the lights go down and they can act up and jump up and down. And everybody's happy. Yeah I love it but there's more important things you need. You need to spread it out. You can't just have one person dominate the show. I keep going going back to the undertaker because undertaker was bigger than anybody other than Andre. Andre Undertake Bray Wyatt is being spoke of now and when you mentioned his name in any time that it relates to somebody radio you try to compare who they compare them to the undertaker. So if that's the case does he need the title. Let him get by on his own merit people spill go campaign to see it and you can have a champion on the car as well can't be too stuck on one thing guys like. Let's let's let's keep it moving and Enjoy the whole process. And that's that's just the way I view. That's the way I see it. I mean if I if I owned the wrestling lesson company Every now and then my guy. My My My brock listener my my Roman reigns. We'll get the title but they wouldn't hold it the entire year. I won't versatility. I won't would be entertained by stories and I think people want to be entertained by stories is just that we have this. Aw I'M NOT GONNA say millennial concepts I think as people that are they want a guarantee. There's some people that will say you know what bet on yourself and you can make a million or you're here's five hundred is guaranteed you take you take the five hundred or you're gonNA work on bet on yourself and take the million you see where I'm coming from. That's that's where I fans are our fans are I just take the guarantee I want the fan that wants to the brewsters millions version. That's another movie. I gotTA GO AND DO Homework. Richard Pryor Bruce's million talking to you millennials talking to you values. Listen I'm with you. You talk about variation I think. That's exactly region Iran besser professor slash history. Professor there for a minute Mark Henry Slash Preacher Bark Henry. World is the weekend We got there but variation is absolutely the key so I would love a run for Brandy Orton. If that run in three or four bents led to a hand off to say a velveteen dream or to an order or to there. There's a lot of. There's a lot of fresh faces. We talk about it all the time. Right Mark Henry of that push and I do agree with you. If that handoff comes. Courtesy of a Randy Orton. Everyone is going to be better off for it all right one final caller who was at smackdown last night. Give us some ambience. Let us know how it wins. Obviously it was a packed arena by all accounts and apparently the kids love the field. That's slightly terrifying. Keep those kids locked away. It's a semi kids. Already scary to begin with right like children of the corn like the shining but yeah the kids definitely like to keep an eye on them. Put them on a watch list. We got Jason in North Carolina. He was out of smackdown last night. What's up Jason Book Man? Hey what's up guys Jason here warning mark. I was the guy on the ramp that had the Three ahead Fat Had oh there you go back and I think that thing on. TV pretty much the entire night. We appreciate that man. Give us giving love to us and I I want you to call in more. Don't let this be a one time. Stop Shot Man Eh. Call him more now. Definitely definitely well like I said once shout outs faster. Joe Who Called earlier he's the one who gave me the fat head to hold on the air but Yeah Hey guys. I'm going on thirty hours now. I've been awake since four o'clock yesterday morning down. Should it Jason. I had to go to work yesterday yesterday at five. Am since I was going to smackdown I live about two and a half hours away from Fayetteville more God so I had hours drive the show. I got home at two o'clock in the morning and I had to be up it works for. Am this morning. So Oh Joe you get the soldier award. The I'm not complaining anymore. I'm not I'm not complaining. I I was sitting here like take a little nap. Yeah right I been going since five o'clock in the morning yesterday. You mean going. You've been going almost. What does that nine hundred eighteen hours now? Thirty hours thirty hours OMA thirty hours four. Go thanks morning so with the day is going to be thirty hours. By the time I'm done I get off of work at one. Thirty brother fell. It'll probably be about thirty four thirty five hours by the time I get home to finally get some sleep. A man hiddink nick. I need you just to be safe and need you to hit a coffee. Every about forty five minutes turn our rather than lunch. Don't take lunch today. Said you alarm on your phone go to your car and and just sleep for an hour. Lunch folks was twenty five hours ago mark. Henry what are you talking like. He's on he's on like third dinner right now. Guys the only reason I need to the very end was because because You know I took my son. It was Christmas present. He is a major fiend. Ray Y fan and I had to stay to the very end. uh-huh he could be Ray Wyatt Russell. The move Jason Jason. Does that concern you. That your son is Arad with a terrible horrible monster. That is the feeding green. He was pressuring me last night to try to buy the May. I bought him the gloves. And he was pressuring me all night to get the mess and I just couldn't get in for fifty dollars man but a man put in a box and let him see getting under the tree civility. You know I am saying that when you already know what's important to them and I'm GonNa tell you right now man like A A lot of people come up to me and and they say man. It was so much fun watching you in the hall of pain error in the hall all the Pain Era. I never spoke to people other than to berate him to browbeat them. And now that I'm retired. People say man Dan. I just enjoy watching you. And I'm like I was the bad guy but why it is is that he. He's so oh good at what he does that. It doesn't matter that he's the bad guy to them he's entertaining and he's the thing that draws their attention to most and sometimes that's more important than being good or bad. Yeah and Jason. At least you didn't ask for the seven thousand dollars belt so I mean full all right well. Hey I wish I had that money because I want that belt just I I personally. Yeah that's true. That's when we were talking. We were talking about that last week. I didn't know that that was tom like. I didn't know that. Was The guy like the horror master with the dropdown down crotch industrial dawn. Yeah I didn't know that all the dead movies but yeah I mean to have some hand made by him. I would gladly if I had that money paid for now. My wife would probably leave me but in my health. I'm GonNa tell you there's a little story one of the best moments that I've had this year was I was hanging out at home. It was off day. I'm on my couch and my phone rings and I looked down. Don't recognize the numbers of four one five number which is Pittsburgh and I'm like man is is must be Kurt. Angle calling me from home number a land line or something and it was Thompson Levin and he was saying Hey man thank you for a the complimenting the mask because it was after show where I commented the fact that I don't like scary stuff is it. I mean it's common knowledge. They win. Bray Wyatt came out with that lantern with Bray Wyatt face with the Oh man I couldn't I still giving me shivers just to talk about it and he called me and said Hey man I appreciate you talking about that on your show you know. And I'm a busted open listener. I was like what may call only in. Please call in to see a great interview. I would love to hear how they came up with the concept because to be honest with you that Bray Wyatt mask it reminds me I mean. I don't know if you guys are into conical but back in two years ago. They did a a Batman storyline. The joker cut his face fall. And then war as a mask so so much similar to the Bray Wyatt Mask but you know it was done in the joker colors but I would love to know how they came up with the idea for for various character and a mask and just everything you know what I think. They're going to have to do a documentary on it. Because I actually know the story and talk to Bray Wyatt about it but Yeah that that would be a great documentary to talk about the whole even the music and everything and you talked about that The Batman they actually. I don't know if you had the D. C. APP on your phone but if you have the the DC APP on your phone and you go to Harley Quinn's Harlequin has a series on On in DC. They joker actually did that in one harlequin series where he took somebody's face off the skin off his head and use their face as a mask and I was like you started talking cartoons and comic books brother the U.. In My wheelhouse. That's my life. I'm a nerd to mark. I mean I've got over fifty thousand Comic Books Ten Thousand Action I mean. I've got eight championship. Shinkin ship replica belts. I've gotTA ric Flair Room. I mean that's that's man. I'm coming to your house in Plano. I was just going to say we watch WRESTLEMAINIA. Jason Sows Jason. Do we shake eight. The call man appreciate the call man appreciate it. Thank you guys very much for your time for very cool. I love it when super fans call and people that are interested listing. Like guys. Explain yourself sometimes. Sometimes you call in and you don't tell us who you are like we know more about Jason Now and I I I love that. That's that's that's good conversation right there and that's that's what this is about. It's not just as analyzing wrestling and critiquing it. is is trying to bring rain you into this family and with Y'all if you call and listen to us like y'all are family outta reason that we do this so Yeah tell us about yourself a little bit. Yeah make us getting up at four thirty one west coast get up in the morning something to be happy for. Yeah we get over here talk pro wrestling for three hours but I want to hear about ten thousand is an action. Figures like ten thousand action figures. Like I didn't even know they made ten thousand as you say the history of progress. I said fifty thousand comic books. He said fifty thousand comic books he said Ric Flair Robe eight titles and I think he said ten thousand action figures. I bet you that you know like when I walk in my son's room Jacob has probably about two hundred action figures and he'll have them all poured out You'll have mall poured out on the floor and brother. It looks like a train wreck. It looks like a cyclone. Hit Somebody Zack. Ryder Is One of those guys that I bet. She's got ten thousand action figures the more likely you're hearing catch catch busted open live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Siriusxm fight nation. China one fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. Xm Exam at the landscape of pro wrestling is evolving which means more options for fans so many activities mark ornery and rhyme. mckinnell are here to answer the difficult questions. What was the best show this week? Your laugh the weeks over so get over over. This is the busted open weekly winner all right mark. Henry we are back here on busted. Is it open. It is tied for the winner. Now listen I kind of said this at the start of the show. I didn't have like there was one show that completely blew me away this week. So there wasn't a show that jumped ahead of the others wasn't necessarily a moment eighty w listen. We had the the return of the list. Although I don't what is he calling it the lexicon yes the lexicon of champion okay. I like it. That was cool but he he w market and I think you would agree on the whole. It's now back to back weeks kind of hey could show good show not saying it was bad it just wasn't I think the first three weeks. Yes we did this eighty w had the best show for me for three weeks running. I can't say that this week mark. I'll be careful to AWA. trolls will come out stop. The Internet aggravates A-. All right so I do have a decision. I do have my weekly winter and I'm doing it because of this. Well because it was a good main event and I'm talking about keithly Giampa uh-huh Die Jakovic versus the undisputed era. So I'm obviously talking exceed. That is my weekly winner. But I'm GonNa tell you why specifically more than anything right now. Oh and again. We had riddle and there are a lot of good matches that were on this next card. But most specifically right now annexed has the most interesting storyline for me going knowing and that is what the Hell is going to happen within Baylor. He keeps saying my past is my future. That is an obvious callback to the bullet club. the he keeps making making the gun symbol. It is clearly right there. They're going to be something something's going to be happening with it. Mark and it is keeping me locked in because I care about that more than almost anything that's going on a professional wrestling because the legs of what that could mean and what that could mean for Annex T. It just hasn't been very very excited so in a week where nothing really jumped above the fray. I would say maybe annexed he was like a seven and a half out of ten It's taken away my weekly winner this week. What say you mark Henry? Well I I if I had to say my weekly winner would be raw. Okay what happened with Daniel Brand and the feen and and I I did enjoy INEX- T was a close second. You mean Roger smackdown mark because the fiend was on smackdown. You know I mean raw was my favorite show all okay this week and secondly I enjoyed would smack down yesterday as much as I. I did not so I would have to. This is the first time that awol to the bottom of the list They were forced to me behind in X T and You know because because of my travels I didn't get to watch power yet so I I can't say you know if power was better than impact because I didn't watch an impact in power this week so It's a four man list this week and I always say raw smackdown INEX- tea and aws. Okay all right you know. Let's talk about raw a little bit because even though I did enjoy the lexicon Chris Jericho was the Shining Star of eighty. W once again and and You know I'm going to have to see some of the other people get over Well the women. The women's division suffered this week. I mean You know going to break on something as important as the ladies being in the ring getting tables out and all of that and it was Kinda disjointed. Yeah I I was confused views and I know wrestling pretty well. If I'm confused and I know everybody else was confused and even the sound like you know. They went to the little pitcher pitcher in pitcher box. which I don't like in wrestling? I like to come back from the break and look what happened during the break. Yup You know stop with the little pitcher and Pitcher Shit. I don't like it and I if I I know I'm telling you this is not fun like like for anybody to say. Oh I want to see what happens. during the commercials that's why they have commercials. Like if I was if I was one of the sponsors answers and I had a commercial plan and you still had the wwe or eight w playing while my commercials going on art of Art of people people that are watching really watching the commercial. No it's not good for business and it don't make sense wrestling. Stop it very very very very logical right. I'm trying to make sense uh-huh me so hard you're breaking Mark Henry over there another thing about w yeah. This is the listen. Maybe this is unfair. Maybe it stopped cody Rhodes roads has been a promo machine for the last few weeks. Obviously there was that Promo a couple of weeks ago before I believe the pay per view that was just believable. Yeah but you know what the problem with that. Put that lightning right. Catch it. Catch lightning in a bottle but having such an iconic promo is you've got to live up to it and I didn't feel like Wednesday's Promo was all that affective or interesting. No disrespect to cody it. Just again it's juxtaposed to that great one from a few weeks ago and and another thing and this is what I wanted to talk to you about Mark Henry. Joey Genoa Woah. I'd love Joey. I I love watching him. I love his dedication in the ball's coming here it come out right. No but I love I love the fact acted he took it upon himself and did everything own way. And he's He's a true entrepreneur and he clearly loves the business but but but mark Henry. You're right maybe as a kick in the balls right but you look at. The main event went with him and with him and Moxie and it was a good main event. I just don't know it as we talk about ratings and filling the seats and stadiums and all that and eighty w you only being a couple months into this journey is Joey Danila a main event guy yet and I get why they're doing it they're trying to. They're trying to test the waters. They're trying to see like Joey. I Love Joey Mark but I don't know if I'm just being a mark right I don't know if I'm just follow US dairy mart. Well right right but I don't know I'm following a story from spring break and everything he's done over the last few years and the broken leg like I'm just trying to like. Is that part. The Story Wildlife Joey and is that translating to a general audience. I just wanted to get your thoughts. you're not I mean AH joking around I don't think that he is a main event player yet but I love the fact that aws aws trying. Yes they're trying and and and they're putting people in positions to see if they can hold up if you don't tram then you'll never know so They're they're making the effort to try and see if if the people will stick I thought that you know having Orange Cassidy go out there. And he didn't have his hands in his pockets. They had him on the floor Then then he got up on the Ring Apron got in the ring didn't do anything stood there with his hands. Down got pushed out of the way at one point point because he was in the way and then he got back out of the ring instead back on the floor there was. There was a bunch of disjointed stuff that happened and I I. I would've tried to put him in a better place because I I like the Gimmick I I I said before You have to know how how to work. Somebody like him is important that you put him with somebody really special and you know to to it. the the promo that Jericho had With the Dinosaur I'm not dinosaur. Lucci SARS the the luther sores segment. You know what I love the fact that they introduced him as you know. I'm smart guy. I have a college degree. I don't think that I'm standing up here in tight. Close a dinosaur masking. I'm kind of idiot. Yeah that was that that was the best part of that. Whole Promo is built him and gave him a layer of intelligence along with the physical bill and it can be yeah and their comedic relief there too because after the I've got the degree I'm this and this and dinosaurs have been march we've been marginalized for more you you? That was great. It was great fun it can be fun and the same thing in the same breath you go to the wwe. W right you see Randy. Orton and drew McIntyre in the ring together and they are going back and forth and you know standing on on a tip toes to see. I'm taller than you know. I'm taller than you and chopping each other and the pokes in is in You know then you fast forward a week later that they're in the ring again and the conversation is had where it started the ball down to. Well let's let's just settle this men you man to man. Let's do it and I was all in. I was well you see what I did that I was I was all for it and then here comes the. OC and drew is like I see y'all have some unfinished business right. I'm GonNa bid you a fine ado and gave him I'm a level of comedic presence and I mean so it's like the both companies are doing what we said they should do. So so I'm not GonNa Complain Because we're getting what we wanted but there were some people who should remain nameless and two they speak up who didn't like it and thought that it may drew look weird getting out of the ring when he could've stood up and nobody what he's saying that still. I'm wondering what that person likes to speak up. That person is actually sitting as in a room with us. I don't think that person wants to speak. Yep Okay are you talking about me. We were talking about. Why are you talking about me now? You're not nice man birthday. What what what was just as me as I was working the board? Something she wasn't paying attention shows Ryan she produced. So can you tell us. We'll talk about. drew McIntyre. Yeah and you you told me before the show when we were mulling this over that that you didn't necessarily like that. Why didn't you like that? I didn't think that was very funny. Like maybe it's just me and it may be. It went over my head crow. Laugh I again. This is just you gabby. Oh Great. I feel weird weird thing mad. She called you out. I think this this blossoming rivalry between. Gabby we be so close like a good story. Line sucks view. I wouldn't want to be an enemy of mine but I'm just saying he says Christ. It's just a joke not really seriously. I believe it's not a joke. Yes okay okay. So we're watching it. Then you see these two guys in their head to head by the same height exactly and you really want to see the match happen and then I in my head. I'm like Oh so now. What's Drew GonNa do is GonNa you know he he ca? Aj came out. Is he going to be like. Oh should I you know get involved because like I think who I am or should i. Maybe I'll help randy and be like oh like I get he. It was too much like. Oh I'm just just GONNA slide on out of here and I was like so hurry. Knock Anna we're just GONNA escape was allowing said it said again. Maybe like angry that I didn't didn't see them fight because I wanted to. Which is what I want you to want but I hate it? Felt like to me like Oh we're just gonNA escape over this whole great like rival. We have right now and I just deal with you guys doing this. I'm like maybe we'll come back to it. I have a fear that maybe they won't come back to it. Maybe that's why I didn't like it. They'll come back. They'll come back to that they'll come you know but but the whole the whole point of it was. Aj Styles came out and the first thing he did was he said Randy Orton and now the tension is on him and Randy not owned drew. That's why when the OC came down. They're they're talking about circling the ring and and and getting you know getting in Randy's face drew was like listen I I see that. There's a little misunderstanding going on between you guys. Did you find a do that in a crowd laughed and I laughed and I was like look at drew with the comedic presence. And sometimes you you have to factor that stuff in and layer it in and so you care more about the the characters. I want to see him. Do more withdrew also just have him out there being heavy right and mark. Sometimes that'd be looking at the some of the fights that we see on the Internet like the KFC chicken the Popeye's chicken sandwich or like a million other things right. Some of the most serious moments and some of the most it's brutal viral videos and fights are hilarious. They've got hilarious. One liners in there. Like something hilarious happens. What about the Bagel boss Guy? Who got slammed at the Bagel last year and that girl on the video was like man? I'm just here for some bagels like that is like violence can be hilarious even in real life outside of pro wrestling. And and you know I got I gotta I gotTa do it in real life. I the the black The the Black Friday deal tame out and my kids are in the car with me. The day after Thanksgiving we're driving and I show them When we were sitting in in the parking lot at a store of video of people going in and just running over each other and trampling Glenn each other and fist fights breaking out and more Joanna? My daughter who founded hilarious said ooh I WANNA I want to go watch so we're not going to go. Why because somebody will hit me and I'll have to start slapping people she said? Oh we gotta go that can I slap somebody to and I know it was the funniest conversation with my kids and goes like that. We don't need to do that. Jacob is the rational one in the family and and Joanna. She just had me laughing. And that's that's the same aim feeling that I got with drew McIntyre wins like ooh. Let's go watch. The people beat each other exactly now. Baby they're not going to beat each other but actually really a few fights broke out at these big big giant stores. It's ridiculous it's just crazy man I it there is humor humor in sometimes those Violent moments absolutely now. I just can't get the visual of Mark Henry. Reckon shop in a black Friday brawl out of my mind. I need that now mark. I'm going to need that next year. I'm GonNa Happen GonNA happen. I love my freedom de Boeing has been my holiday inn in the clink. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Sirius X._M.. 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Bray Wyatt is Back

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Bray Wyatt is Back

"If you don't know Sirius X._M.. THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news they have it all and right now you can get your first three months of serious accent outside the car for just one dollar go to Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer offer available to new series X._M.. Streaming Subscribers Sirius X._M.. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show weekdays from nine A._M.. To Two P._M.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Dan Nation Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is David Greco on today's episode W._W._e.. Hall of Famer Bully Ray and I discussed this week's smackdown live and begin our wrote the Summer Slam in Toronto Kevin Owens Book at smackdown this week with a pair of stunners for Shane McMahon boy and I discuss using stone colds finishing move can take owens to the top of the W._W._e.. Copa Kicks Jason Is Your W._W._e.. biggie and eggs are your smackdown tag team. The new day are on top of the blue brand can be the faces of smackdown on Fox. This October plus boy and I discussed the biggest moment this week in the the W._W._e.. We finally saw the fiend and the W._W._e.. Ring this week Ray wide is back but what's next for the host of the firefighter now all that right now on the busted open podcasts a lot going on in the world to pro wrestling and obviously it all starts with what happened last night on smackdown to start Kevin Owens banned from the Arena Shane McMahon says you're out you have the night off. Go enjoy yourself off. You can't come in and then you get the obviously return of Kevin Owens at the end of the show to give Shane McMahon a stunner shock surprise. What did you think of what we saw last night bully? Well let me ask you this <hes> at thirty thousand feet over overview of the show. Did you like to show it. Did you not like the show I thought it was a very very average show last night on smackdown fair enough all right we we started off with a town hall which rich now actually we started off with Shane Meeting Owens in the back and you know they have a little back and forth where shame definitely got the one up on Owens in the back and that's totally fine any ban them from the building security guards there security. That's a novel thought but the securities data make sure he does not get into the building now between that security building security in any other security. You would think that had a guy like Kevin Owens couldn't make it back into the arena. How does the hell does? He make it back into the arena so quick Dave well I mean. Did you see what he was wearing. He fooled them all here war a security Polo W._W._e.. Sure you know that that was that was a little bit of a disconnect for me right there because he got back into the building holding so quick and I'll go back in time and show you other incidents where it remember when Austin used to get banned from the building at the beginning of the show when did Austin show back up at the end of the show as he's always so you got to pay off at the end of the show so I'm not sure why we needed it so quick it worked. Don't get me wrong. The people are into it that I got a little awry. No big deal pick them right back up. Get it again got the pop that was desired but now every time I see Kevin do the stunner I keep going back to my original thought what am I reacting to and I think I'm reacting to the stunner and not the man and I think people are reacting reacting to the stunner. There's no doubt that the move is over. I I'll go as far to say is ask you this Dave what's more over the stone cold stunner or Kevin Owens well. I mean I think as time has going on on and listen I I. I don't know if this week was a good way to follow up what we saw last week and we talked a lot about Kevin Owens and the quote unquote pipe bomb from Kevin Owens <hes> and then you see the stunner not once but twice last night <hes> I think it's probably more about the stunner at this point than it is about Kevin Owens are you. Do you genuinely feel that or you. Just saying you know what what would you think I want. What I want you to know what you want me to say? I'm I'm so I'm just agreeing with me for the sake of green no because judging from what we saw last night I think it's more about the stunner than it is about Kevin Owens and I'm obviously thinking about what you he said last week bully because as I'm watching the show last night because you asked me this question last week and my my my answer was different than what I just told you I said it was Kevin Owens not stunner so when I watched it last when you see it twice thin it starts to be something where maybe it is about the stunner and not Kevin Kevin Owens is over. Don't get me wrong but it's obvious the direction that they're going in. They want to remind you about McMahon it man and Austin this they want you to think that this is their two thousand nineteen version of Stone Cold Steve Austin and Vince McMahon. Why because it's Shane McMahon and Kevin Owens is using a stunner would could we be thinking that same way if he was using the pop up our bomb instead of the stunner I would because it would be it would be shane versus Kevin and the and the the link to them would have been the head but the face of Vince so there's no reason why I can't think that this is about Kevin Owens and the McMahon's Kevin like you said Kevin Owens is over without the stunner and his pop up power bomb is a good move that is unique to him? I don't need the stunner to me. Feels a bit forced. If you're trying to do Austin McMahon all over again with Owens and McMahon that's fine. I don't have a problem with that but let me ask you this. Where where the hell are? They supposed to go. I mean under two years ago. We got Kevin Owens and Shane McMahon in a falls count anywhere hell in a cell. That's an oxymoron within itself crazy. We got a false count anywhere Helena in a cell match in which Kevin recreated the Mick Foley bump so we have him doing the exact bump that Mick Foley. Did we have him doing Steve Austin stunner we have we have Kevin doing all of these things that was so synonymous with other major stars when I know I can be popping for Kevin and all of his unique stuff but so where are we going to go with Shane and Kevin I mean how much more of a of a massive a gimmick match can you get. I mean are they going to do a first blood or are they going to do a <hes>. I don't know what exploding cage match with Piranha Moat surrounding the rain I mean where do they go. It's a great point bully because you talk about recreation and we spoke about this before this started to show today because we're going back and thinking about this feud with Shane McMahon and Kevin Owens and obviously hearken back to two years ago when they had a feud. View but it was completely different as far as the personalities and Characters Kevin Owens was the heel and Shane McMahon was to face but when you were talking about their Helena Sal match it really hit me you said that Kevin Owens recreated. He created the Mick Foley bump which he did but was it a we positive that he went off the top of the cell or did he go off the top of his steel cage. It was it was the cell okay. I just wanted to make sure it was all right. You know what what you're doing right now is. You're making my point because when things like that happen they're supposed to be memorable. I mean my God. We talk about that Undertaker Mick Foley bomb you know we we we celebrate celebrate anniversaries of that moment for crying out loud. We're struggling to remember exactly what the stipulations was in the Matra Kevin O. J. McMahon you just said was it off. The side of the case was it off the top wasn't even sell or was it just a cage match. It's like we're struggling to remember which means it's not that memorable. Why because we saw it before it's not original goes back to the point yet? You're making right now about the stunner that when you're using somebody else's his finisher and you're trying to recreate something you're recreating something which means when it was originally done. It's a hell of a lot more memorable than what you're doing now. Make your own memory thick about this with Kevin Owens. Now you're talking about the hell in a cell. You're talking about the pipe bomb Promo and now you're talking about the stunner so all these things that Kevin Owens is doing is recreating something that someone else has already done that. It's going to be very difficult for Kevin Owens to take take it to the next level when you're doing things that aren't original and when you're talking about Kevin Owens and all of these things if you're saying Hey Kevin owings did that took that bump off the top of the cell but Mick Mick Foley did it I hey Kevin Owens using the stone cold stunner but it belonged to Steve Austin. Hey Kevin Owen try to drive. Drop a pipe bomb on shave McMahon but seeing punk did it. I Kevin Owens is very good good at what he does. There's no reason why Kevin can't be coming up original bumps in moments and moves on his own now. I'll always go back to the response of the fans or the people responding into this yes they are and that's good but is Kevin getting more over by recreating and doing other people's things I don't know. Is it working with him and Shane. Yeah I guess but it worked two years ago. This is a road that we been that we've been down and hopefully they have a good creative way to blow it off because it looks like we're going to get shane versus Kevin at Summer Slam yes yes I would I would I I would expect that to happen okay so and if it's just a regular wrestling match that's not interesting anymore because we've seen them. Go crazy so obviously it'll have to be some kind of you know the old fashioned dreaded Toronto. I know streetfight where you can get hit with some hot meat in the face. Who knows what'll happen so yes you know yesterday on smackdown did the beginning of the show work with K._O.? In the stunner yes it did but I keep going back to. I'd rather see the guy hit the pop up power bomb. That's his move. That's the move he debuted and beat John Cena with and if that's the move is good enough for you to debut with and if that's the move that's good enough to beat John Sina. Well Damn it. That's your move and maybe twenty years down the line. Somebody else will be ripping up your ripping off your Papa power bomb and not you borrowing the stunner. It's gotTa ought to be original and and you're right Kevin Owens when he had that debut and he went up against John Cena and won that championship that meant something because it's something that you haven't seen especially at that time man it kind of is following in to the tune of what we're GONNA see next week on raw with this role reunion by the way just as a side note. I love how they advertise raw. If you're watching last night in the corner right hand corner of your screen they kept like advertising rising the raw reunion for next week and the person that they used a photo that they use was triple age like really you're advertising a raw reunion and the picture you're using a picture at triple h h why wouldn't you and and the picture that they used was like triple h like in the hurricane Helms position against the forearm up like it looked like like you're at six flags superimpose your body on troy ounces face. I mean God forbid. You should have a little picture of maybe Hulk Hogan Steve Austin and triple h because if I see that I'm like I want to in yes but you know and not that I don't want to tune in not that. I don't love triple eight but you know where I'm coming from but it's the it's the originality Alex. Would you want to say I have a little bit of a correction really quick just so that we're on the right track with this so the spot with Owens <hes> from that Helena sell two years ago. Oh it was not actually owns going off. The top of the Cell Owens was sat was placed on the table Shane went off basically not the top of the cell but on the side of the Salvatore's the top and Sammy Zane pulled owens out of the way and Shane went through but there was a match where Owen Dress created the Mick Foley yes there were and I think it was in a regular cage match that you might be correct about but that particular Helena cell that was the moment you're talking about okay but what I'm saying is whether it's owens laying there and Shane jumping off or owens jumping off the top of the cage and putting somebody else through a table. We're where I don't want to. You know get semantics into this. They're AH recreating things that have already been done before. Imagine if two wrestlers did the edge and Jeff Hardy spear out of mid Air Yeah you're going to pop for it but it will always be synonymous with those two guys is that's my that's my discussion. It's not even an argument because I'm not really arguing. I'm not really against him doing this. I would just rather see him be his own guy and do the things things that got him to the dance. I don't think Kevin Owens needs the stone cold stunner to be over. The moment you're talking about. bubba is owens versus Braun Strowman at extreme rules last year. It was in Pittsburgh Berg. It was near the twenty year anniversary of the hell in the cell match from Foley and undertaker that was the bump you're talking about and it was a cage match and the one you're talking about from that Hell because I'm watching right now both Shane and Kevin Owens near the top hop the cell the day like they climbed up to near the top of the cell and Shane McMahon Banged Kevin hones head on the cell. Kevin owns fell back and fell through the table Gotcha so it's it's. It's kind of similar to what happened but I but Alex is right. You know it was a year so we're kind of blending in memories together because they're moments that remind this of other moments. They're not original moments and this this again. This is not a knock on Shane McMahon because obviously Shane McMahon. has given us some tremendous moments and this is definitely not a knock on Kevin Owens either because I think Kevin Owens is talent but I think it goes back to. When you have somebody that's talented and you have confidence that they could be a top guy? I think the only way you could reach stove heights is by doing something original to your character and by no means is this <hes> anything against Kevin. Kevin is very very good at what he does and like like I said a little early he was over way before he started using using the stunner. He's good in the ring. Innovative talks a lot of smack while he's out there gets the job done on the microphone. Just when I see the stunner I always ask myself. Hey what did I just react to the move that belonged to somebody else the or the Guy Kevin so that's that's my that's my argument and again when you create a memorable moment you're gonNA remember it. It's not going to blend into other moments and it's not going to be something where you're struggling to see or remember when it happened and I think Kevin Evan owns deserves something. That's a little bit more original and I don't know. Is this storyline going to work. Where is it going to lead to and is it GonNa Take Kevin Owens to that next level? Likely you're hearing God's busted open live weekdays from nine A._M.. To Twelve P._M.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius X._M.. APP other than Kevin Oh and she would you say is the top face on smackdown right now. I mean it probably be your W._W._e.. Champion camping Kofi Kingston Okay Next Kevin owns. You know what I it's hard to remember because of the brand split in the wildcard rule and everything else but Roman reigns is a part of the smackdown smackdown that's true but like you said it is hard to remember. I'm going to say Kevin No ins is up there and hopefully after he is done with Shane Yeah he's propelled to the next level because Shane should be used to get guys to the next level but if you look look at social media and you look at by some of the reactions it doesn't feel like people care about Shane I care about because I think he does a tremendous job on TV and if you noticed within the arenas is he gets the heat that they're looking for. You hear a lot of feedback on social media and I really shouldn't go by because it just negative for the sake of negative but can Kevin Owens. Take a step to the next level with a guy. It seems that people are tired of seeing the stories great Shane claiming that Kevin claiming that Shane is holding everybody back truly works. I mean look at the way he shutdown live tyler last night on the microphone holding her back wouldn't even let her talk live in Oregon. It's she's not related to Steven Tyler aerosmith right the more right. That's what did I say tyler he said let's tireless mortgage the girl with the girl with the song. I know you're talking about Darrow so I like the story is long as Kevin can take the step to the next level. That's all that really matters a and and Chris Todd followed up on twitter and he said that he loves to Keio Shane few that's going on right now and he says why do we care about that. He uses the stunner Austin is retired. I understand where Chris is coming from. Anthony called US negative yeah this negative Dante's but I will say this. Everybody knows that Stone Cold Steve Austin used a stunner stone cold Steve Austin could be retired for fifty ears. It's one of the greatest finishes of all time when you see that finished you instantly think of Stone Cold Steve Austin and then you take it to another level when the feud that's going on right now is with McMahon A and Oh yes Kevin Owens never used a stunner brill never really used a stunner before this whole Shane McMahon storyline. It's not like he always add this as his finisher so you add you have to add all those things together and it comes up with the equation that we came up with and I don't care like I. I'm sorry when you when you see the stunner and you're going up against McMahon. You're gonNA think of Stone Cold Steve Austin. If somebody were to shoot somebody into the ropes chiefs give them a big boot and then hit the ropes and do a leg drop. Who would you think you're thinking of Hogan? You know there are certain moves that are synonymous with certain acts guys gals tag teams that when you saw them do it you knew do they came up with that that was unique to them and synonymous with them and belonged to them. If you see somebody standing over a guy that just took a bump in the ring and then he takes his elbow P- at off you think of the Rock so how did all of these how did the stone cold and the rocks in the Hogan's and the Road Warriors. How did they all get themselves over by coming up with moves that were unique to them? That's what propelled them to superstardom artem Kevin Owens is a star no doubt about it but he's a star using a superstars finish and my the only point of making here is that when you see Kevin Owens hit the stunner. Are you reacting to stunner or are you reacting to Kevin's. I know that when I saw Kevin hit the Papa power bomb I was reacting to Kevin Owens because I love the way Kevin did the Papa power bomb and I love it how he could do it out of nowhere when I see Kevin you the stunner it's I'm forced. It's almost like it's almost Pavlovian now where my mouth slots award like a dog when I hear the sound of dog food down the chute now when I see the stunner I'm like Oh yeah the stunner when I should be thinking Oh yeah Kevin's well and bully the the biggest thing of all is that that's what they want you to think I mean this is calculated by Dave. Dave stop right there. I'm sorry you said this is what they want us to think and this is calculated by the W._W._e.. If on Monday night at the reunion if I see Kevin Owens in the ring drinking a beer with Steve Austin and two guys try to hit the ring and Steve Austin and Owens double stunned some guys or if I see Kevin Owens stunned Steve Austin then I'm fine with it you know why because there was an end result to this now do I think we're going to get Kevin Owen stunning Steve Austin pro at that stunning Steve Austin probably not because people would boo Kevin out of the building. Actually some people today might actually love it but I don't think we're going to see that because probably people would boo but if there's some kind of if I see a passing of the torch of Alex if I see anything like give Stone Cold Steve Austin is about the stun Shane McMahon and stops and lets Kevin do it and then Kevin does the stunner all right that like that like you said that's a passing of the torch on Monday night raw or if if if drew Galloway is standing behind Steve Austin ready to take his head off but Kevin Spins drew around or Shane around whoever it is and gives them the stunner and Saves Steve With Steve's move now I get it now. There's an now it's been wrapped up in a nice bow for me. Where I see the guy that invented move kind of given the given the nod to the guy who's doing the like yeah no problem? It's mind but now it's yours. Take it and have fun with it now. The people are GonNa now. People get it. I think people dead it now but it would be nice end to the why is Kevin using the move and again. I think the biggest thing of all is that we like Kevin Owens. We think Kevin Owens could be not that guy but maybe if there was a little bit more of originality behind it instead of relying on something from the past it might have a bigger and stronger effect on the people who are watching me and Yvonne one talk passed away. We would always do the doomsday device we did it. As a tribute to the road warriors I don't is is Kevin Owens using the stunner as a tribute or is he using it as finish. He's he's right now. As far as I can see he's using it as his finish. I don't know if he's using it as as as as a tribute because obviously there's been things on social media and he was a guest on stone cold podcasts but there's been nothing as far as I know on W._W._e.. W._W._e. programming coming where he has said that he's doing this as a tribute to Stone Cold Steve Austin Yup. I gave you my points on it. I think they're very simple. Points not one of these points points in the direction of me being negative towards Kevin because he's been doing a good job since day one when he came out and beat John Cena with a pop up power bomb. That's that's my whole point. I want to think about Kevin. I don't want but think about Steve stunner if you don't know Sirius X._M.. THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news they had it. All a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius X._M.. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius X._M.. Outside the car for just one dollar just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe you can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted offer available to new series X._M.. Streaming subscribers siriusxm no GNO car required Bray wide in the middle of the ring giving a sister Abigail to fame ballot. I when I first heard the noises I thought it was going to be that was going to come out but it was very wide. Did you hear the people when the lights it's one out. Did you hear the rumble in the arena. Did you hear the pop when they realized that was bray. That's lightning in a bottle right there. You keep doing that week after week or maybe skip one week. You give the people that moment. That kind of reaction was what wasn't then but it can be undertaker. Ask when you hear the Gong I know a lot of times pull the when we talk about things like this happening and especially you you come up with fantastic scenarios like you say if I had the pencil. This is what I would do a lot of times we get excited about things and then they fizzle out pretty quickly. When you see see Bray Y and you you see the bill in the firefly funhouse in the mask and Tom Savini his involvement and everything else? Don't you get the feeling that this is something that W._w._e.. Is going to get right I just I don't don't have that feeling like they're going to disappoint us here because they seem to be doing things right weekend and week out. I have a really good feeling they're going to get this whole. Bray wide situation correct. We heard a couple two weeks ago. Maybe a month ago is so that Bray was very very much involved in the creating of this character very much involved in the firefly funhouse and had more say with this character victor than people people normally get. That's what we heard correct. Yes to answer your question. The key to this working and having longevity is going to be Bray Wyatt and his willingness to protect attacked the character and every last thing the character does the same way the undertaker protected the undertaker you have to this is a special character that to not be overexposed. It cannot be allowed to get burnt out if you pick and choose your spots with Bray Wyatt just like they did on Monday night. You will have something special if you go back and you look at the undertaker. When did the undertaker truly become special I or leader on in his career? I mean especially when it came to that. WRESTLEMAINIA undefeated streak AAC YUP it it took time before that started to become special ache. I feel it became iconic well until like well past ten victories fifteen victories when it really truly became iconic and my point with that is if I'm Bray Wyatt I'm looking at a couple of the hurdles that the undertaker had to get over with that character that is very similar to the fiend character and I'm going to try to avoid those hurdles and falls right now. I WANNA keep myself special at every turn. I'll give you an example. Nobody kicked out of the three day ever except for one person when the time was right why because we knew we wanted to keep our finish special and we went. We argued until the end of days to make sure it was kept special. That's what brain needs to do with his entire act. Nothing can be prostituted. Nothing can be giving a giving away. Nothing should be done with the fiend that is a throwaway and really didn't matter everything has to mean something and that's how you protect it and get longevity out of that because if you take a look at the fiend it's really kind of a gimmicky gimmick that hearkens back to like something you know like they would do. This is like don't take it up to the millionth level right yeah of course and you don't want it to get stale. How and how do you not get stale? You make it special. You don't do it every single week you find the right people at the right times and the right time. It's normally when you expect it to happen. The least it's funny you look at the undertaker's undefeated streak at Wrestlemania I four opponents Jimmy superfly Snuka well past his prime jake the snake Roberts well well past his prime giant Gonzalez who unfortunately never had a prime and King Kong Bundy who is well past his prime. My my point is not about the WRESTLEMAINIA victories. My point is about the character Vicky cat character. The gimmicky character of the undertaker was just it was just a character in the W._w._f.. W._W._e.. It didn't truly become iconic until much later on. I think break can make this fiend characte character iconic also now. I'm not going going to say that it will be. He will become the next undertaker. It's entirely too early to say that my point is you asked about the protecting protecting of it bray is the key bray is the one to to make sure he's gotta say no if they if they decided to celebrate hey bray. You're going to go out there and do this if he doesn't feel it's one hundred percent right. He has to stay say no. He has to stick to his guns because I believe in his heart. Art and in his mind he knows what's going to get this character over and nine times out of ten. The wrestler knows what's going to get the character over better than creative knows what's going to get character over so everything you just said especially with bray y its involvement offman bully. I I do feel very excited about what's going to take place. I feel like this you know my fear of like a mid card being involved early on. I think you've given me every reason to say you know what this this is just a little piece and what's going to be a bigger puzzle meaning a bigger story moving forward. I hope so listen I've worked with Bray. He has a phenomenal mind and we saw what he was able to do with the Bray Wyatt character and I've said this before on the show it speaks volumes to how much confidence the W._W._e.. Had in bray pulling off the Bray Wyatt character because that character has been in the back pockets of the W._W._e.. He W E for twenty five years that was Max Katie from Cape Fear and the original originally done by Danny Spivey as Waylon Mercy W._W._f.. Really wanted waylon immersed to work back in the day but I believe spivey was sick or injured and they couldn't go forward with the with the Gimmick and they held onto it for the longest time and bree was able to pull it off and if you could pull that character off you can pull off the fiend and because he's proven himself with that Bray Wyatt character he should have a lot of say in the fiend and he is the key to the fiend succeeding you know Vince McMahon will be the first. I want to tell you that if you truly want to become a superstar in the wrestling industry especially the W._W._e.. You have to be selfish at times and I think bray is going to have to be selfish with the fiend you gotTa keep the characters best interest in mind likely GEICO. You're hearing God's busted open live weekdays from nine A._M.. To Twelve P._M.. Eastern on Sirius X._M.. Fight Nation Channel fifty six or on demand with the Sirius X._M.. APP We talked about the new day obviously day on my power rankings rankings this week Kofi Kingston defense his W._W._e.. Championship against Samoa Joe on Sunday and the new day become your smackdown tag team champion so when you look at smackdown right now you know here we are talking about Kevin Owens and could Kevin owns beat the top face of smackdown. Where's this story going with Shane McMahon? Is this going to elevate Kevin Owens to be the top face on smackdown well. I'll tell you what right now who dominate smackdown new day all the gold is around the new days waste and you know we talked about free bird rules and factions and I don't know what you would call the new day. Are they attacked team. Are they a faction. I can tell you is this. They all have gold and one one hell of a week for the new day bully. I want to point something out to you that happened last night that should open people's eyes to why the new day our stars and head and shoulders above a lot others remember the opening scene of smackdown last night <hes> with all of the the entire roster on the stage Yes for Shane McMahon's townhall meeting <hes> what was every superstar doing on that stage H. just standing on the Stage Cup. What was the new day doing they were? They were dancing or gyrating. They were showing off their tag belts in their champ. They're actually touching belts with one another touching tips ABS- yes they were touching tips to the belts Yup. That's what they were doing. They stood out head and shoulders above everybody else that was on that stage. They commanded the spotlight. They did not allow themselves selves to get lost. Yeah you could put Randy Orton in the middle and the camera will always find Randy Orton yeah you could put Charlotte out there with the big gorgeous robe she has on. They're gonNA find Charlotte to but you know what the new day did. They said had a spotlight. Get over here. Put It on us because we're going to do something different than everybody else and that's what they're getting themselves over and that's what they've been doing from day one you would think okay. We're just going to stay on the stage. The new day didn't look at that. Opportunity is just standing on the stage. They said we're gonNA take this tiny moment in time and we're GonNa make it mean something and we're going to be different than everybody else and that stood out to me so so much last night and I agree with you there stars in great point by you and you're right you know they didn't find the spotlight spotlight found them last night so let me ask you this right now the way that the landscape is with the W._W._e.. Louis how we're seeing with raw raw you have becky Lynch as one of your champions brock listener as one of your champions Seth rollins being on the top in that in that in that show too and then you look at smackdown smackdown smackdown you have Kevin Owens you have Roman reigns and you have the new day. Clearly the new day are the most popular wrestlers right now on smackdown the way that this show is right now just using those examples the a new day Roman reigns Kevin Owens Shane McMahon could could smackdown right now move to Fox and be successful. I think we know that that the roster that's there could move the Fox and be successful. It's Fox's perception of the roster. I think we can agree that Fox. Most likely want the brock listeners and the Ronda Rousey is of the world because they are household names they crossover if you've never watched wrestling before and you tune into smackdown for the very first night on Fox you might not recognize anybody there but you're going to know who brock lesser and Ronda Rousey yes. We can agree that the majority of the W._W._e.. Locker Room is very talented. There are some people who need help in the ring some younger who who can use more reps but the majority are very good in the ring and I think that that crew could go on Fox right now with the right storytelling it doesn't listen Dave you've you've seen head coaches take less than great teams and turn them into a great team because of the plays that they called design for the team correct. Yes boom there you go and I'm not calling the smackdown roster less Aston great because they are a great roster so with the great coach calling the plays running the place telling stories writing the stories. Yes I think this roster can't be successful and you you know you talk about a head coach Eric Bischoff and and he's still really having really grounded on smackdown yet still in the process of moving over to Connecticut and that whole deal but he is going to be to quote unquote head coach for smackdown so you're going to have Eric Bischoff at the helm so I agree with you but there's a lot to overcome here bully because the perception is smack down is the B- show once the fall comes is smackdown still going to be to be show Roy's still the franchise so still going to be on U._S._A.. Jose still going to be on Monday nights but smackdown being on Fox on Fridays. Is that GONNA still be the be show as smackdown has always been right or wrong. SMACKDOWN has always been the be show. I can only only go by what history has taught us and even in two thousand three two thousand four when Heyman was running smackdown and smackdown was blowing raw out of the water. It was the more entertaining show I think the rating apples to apples was just as good as raw. I mean it was Dave agree or disagree. I I completely agree. It was a it was a better show much better show. It was still considered to be show right Yep so all we can do from the very first day. That smackdown was invented into this very moment right now. No matter how great smackdown has been even if the rock was on it smackdown was always considered the be show so I think we're in a wait and see because with Fox comes more eyeballs and maybe those eyeballs make the show. I just don't know who's going to be parked in front of their TV set on a Friday night at eight o'clock. It's a tough one. It's a tough night but as you know bully holy wrestling fans find wrestling so I think I think it will do well and I agree with you. I think that the new day can be the faces of the franchise for when that move happens in October but is Fox going to be on board with those names being enough for that move to happen. Dude couldn't give you a legit answer. I could only give guesswork and in the guesswork I'm telling you I'm sure if you said to Fox. Hey look at the new day. Kofi Kingston is your champion executor and big your tag champions. They're they're an incredibly over unit. megastars African American stars these guys and then Fox go and yeah yeah but where's the Rhonda and Brock. You could definitely see that happen because that's how I think corporate executives would think give me the heavy hitters Gimme the people that the minute that they're on T._v.. People are going WanNa know who they are and I'm going to stay tuned in if you've never watched wrestling before and you see the new day on TV. Are you as interested as if you C Brock and Rhonda No because you're not going to know who they are. You're that's the perspective Fox will be looking at it and let's be let's be honest here like outside of outside of Brock Leser and Ronda Rousey who are the names that are mainstream renames Charlotte and Roman are starting to become because Charlotte did things like you know the Coca Cola you know she the pace for the for the Coca Cola four hundred becky being on the cover of the E._S._p._N.. Magazines Seth winning the You you know the S._p.. Those are things that are helping to get them there. That's why I think you need your biggest names on smackdown at least to start like it doesn't have to be long term but at least for that that fall you need to have brock listener on that show because you know people tuning in and you may have to you may have to do a little bit more. You may have to bring back some returning legends as well to be a part of the show whether it's on commentary oh you're so just two inch just to get people's feet wet that may be a have never watched the show or be having watched the show in a while and still be enough for the hardcore fan the tune in because for this move to be successful successful for the W._W._e.. You need more than just a hardcore fan here. If you want to utilize returning stars and legends like they're doing the raw reunion next week. I've kind of seen that before I've seen a raw anniversary show I've scene reunion shows. They might have not used the word reunion but I've seen rawes. We've seen a retro raw. We've seen things like this of course yes. I would save the heavy artillery for that first smackdown. If you're going to bring being back these stars like Steve Austin should be on the first episode of smackdown on Fox. Why wouldn't you WANNA hit with every ounce of firepower you had at your disposal if I'm if I'm <hes> the W._W._e.? I'm finding any way to get the rock on that first episode of smackdown there you go the smackdown is the show that the re the rock created. Yes in the rock named right YEP so boom. There's your firepower. That's what you want and that's what you WANNA WANNA be able to advertise. Debut of smackdown live on Fox Friday night at eight o'clock and we're kicking off with none other than the biggest superstar in the history of the W._w._e.. And in Hollywood Virak Bang now everybody everybody wants to tune in and I would have to think there's GonNa be a major microscope over that first episode of smackdown on Fox Lot just because you're advertising the rock. That's bringing the ice at the table now. Oh you put Roman in there with Iraq or now you put one of your younger talented there with rock the minute the rock has the spotlight you send in your your three hundred day a year guy to share that spotlight and get the Rub off the rock this way way everybody who's never watched wrestling before who seeing it for the first time on Fox goes oh my God. That's the Rock and hey that's Roman reigns or hey guy whatever you have to you're going to have to do that. That's an important part of what's going take place and maybe bully you. Start the ball rolling next Monday on the Royal Reunion. You start building up those superstars because I'm sure they're going to get a monster rating for raw Monday. I'm sure there's going to be people tuning in that. Don't normally watch Monday night raw. That's where you kind of start the ball to roll. We're getting some of these other superstars on your roster and taking advantage of what's going to take place in that role reunion. You know who you remember remember this. This is a tiny tiny little thing but I just want to go back to a point last week. Remember I said for Bray. We have to see somebody that has never been scared before finally be scared <hes> the boogeyman. If you're going to have the boogeyman at the reunion you have to have the boogeyman be absolutely terrified by Bray while we actually we we brought up the boogeyman yesterday. Boogeyman was a big talking point when it came to Bray Wyatt because bookie boogeyman interesting because you have the boogeyman that's the bogeyman but you have the boogeyman. That's kind of being sticky sticky and funny and it's it's it'd be interesting to see if they pair up the boogeyman with Bray Wyatt next my point is have you ever seen fear in the eyes of the boogeyman. No just worms okay you've seen worms in his mouth but never fear in his eyes. Never I want to see him look terrified and on commentary. They said Oh my God. This is the first time we've ever seen the boogeyman look terrified now identity. It's the boogeyman nowhere near the level of a Bray Wyatt and the fiend but I think that's how you can news. Somebody is the Boogeyman GonNa pop are people going to be interested to see him yes but as he's in the middle of the ring doing his whole stick boom the lights go out and you hit the Bray Wyatt stick boom abigail well. I'm glad you brought and then and then and then bray he reaches down into into his into boogeyman mouth pulls out all of the words and puts the worms all over boogies face Boogie Woogie Boogie man not Boogie woogie Jimmy Valley I don't think.

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"If you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Siriusxm Channel. One fifty six Wolfman busted open nation to eight another week and addition of busted open radio on a Saturday. I'm your weekend host Ryan. Mcconnell got mark Henry across the way. And we've got another great and best of show lined up for. Y'All here on the podcast edition of Busted Open Radio. We're going to start with a little conversation about the return of the firefly funhouse John Gray why we are building towards Wrestlemainia and things are just starting to get interesting mark. Henry now is getting interested in. It is just arming airways. I'm so looking forward to this week. Man this Sunday is just beyond me. I'm without words law. Well you talk you talk about the week yes. It wasn't exciting week in pro wrestling. It is the Saturday edition of Busted Open. So that means we are bringing you our weekly winner in the world of professional wrestling and mark. We had a lot to choose from great promos throughout the world of pro wrestling. Monday with Randy Orton on raw Wednesday on eighty. W with the return of Jake Roberts. How much great pro wrestling can we possibly consume in one week mark? You know a man like the stars aligned with Randy Orton and Jake Roberts. Both on the same we doing with most unrealistically great performances when it comes to cutting a Promo. It was hard to pig. But I I had to make one and you'll find out what happens on the then of course it wouldn't be a busted open on a Saturday coming off a smackdown mark. If we didn't talk about our Guy Otis try to find love against I should say with Mandy. I feel like time's running out for our boy Otis mark what you're concerned level is really. I was really heartbroken that this didn't happen the way that we wanted. And I got mad at Ziglar but I'm not mad at all anymore I've changed. The person has net person. The man do rose. She needs to step up as a woman and give. Otis yes or no and you know it looked like she gave him annot no but is yet to be determined so much emotion so many feelings in the week that was in pro wrestling. Stop wasting time. Click that play button. Let's get it. Go a busted open radio on Saturday. Joy Friends Swing back on what I thought was the best portion of smackdown last night and is really just the continuing Story of Bray Wyatt and Johnson and Johnson has returned. Wwe Universe it is obviously a big story. He wasn't on smackdown last night but his presence is felt nonetheless. Because we know he's back we know he has a match at mania and mark. I touched on a little bit last week but it becomes even more clear this week at least in my eyes. I listen I am totally with you in the sense. That Bray Wyatt doesn't need a title. But for the sake of this match and this moment at Wrestlemainia I really would have loved to have seen. Bray Wyatt verse. John Cena further universal title. Because John CENA would have been chasing rick flares record and trying to break it. He's been away for a couple years in the return is already you can feel it. It's palpable people are excited about it. You built Bray Wyatt into this unstoppable monster and it just feels like the reason. Goldberg is champion is because Saudi Arabia right wanted Goldberg there. As a part of that super showdown show and now that that happened well. Hey let's put them in mania too because he's going to sell tickets mark. I would argue right. That scene as chasing a championship championship heading into mania is a much bigger story and would've sold more tickets. Am I wrong on that? What's your read? I don't know by wrong. I I think that the dirt she guy me would be like. Oh yeah that's that's that's a take that that makes you want to argue points but I think the wrestling fan in me you you WANNA see John. Cena in a in a place where it means something and what's more meaningful than have Johnson face one of the more dominant things that have come along and pro wrestling. You put him in there with just anything or anybody and I think that this is the point where the tire. Miester road is. We're talking about it because as matters title involved John Cena Matters. He's history. You just mentioned it. He has a potential to break. Rick flair is rick. He could do next month after mania. He could do that down the road six months if he wants to he could come out of retirement in another year and do yeah. It matters to be able to have somebody like a John. Cena is a big plus. It's just like saying Iraq is gonNA come back shirt wrestling match. He only needs a wrestle. One match every two or three years not be consistent performer. You know so. That's that's kind of where I am with IT I. I think that you had to put him in there with the theme. Because what what else are you going to do? Put Him in there brock. You'RE GONNA put him in. I love him. I love him with the feed mark. I I think it's the perfect booking especially with the history as we saw which was highlighted last night in the firefly phone house. I think it's perfect. I would've liked to have had it before a trophy in this case a title. Because I think the story of John Cena chasing Ric flair's title at Wrestlemania. Excuse me Ric flair's record at Wrestlemainia. That is a knockdown drag out main event that everyone can get behind. There's no critique there's no I'm not no one is having a thought or an opinion on that like they do. Roman reigns and Goldberg. You know what I'm saying is it's safest booking that everyone would have gotten behind. And there's no controversy it just it just feels like the better option for me but you know as we say. You're every single Saturday. I don't got the pen mark. Well you know that's a point that I can't argue. I think is a ironclad. But why do we need to have it all at once? And that's that's the thing that I've been seeing for the last two years that people the fans won't when they want it rather than the way that it was meant to be when we were kids we didn't have the social media we didn't have radio channels like this one right. Twenty four hour breakdown ideas just did it in a backyard with our friends and now we have so much time that we are breaking down and tearing up of ideas to say that I did is better and I don't know if that's necessarily true but in some cases it is certainly fun. Definitely Fun in this case you have to dominant entities that. I don't even care if anybody has. A title is about the war about the story. That's going to be told and you know that. Oh Man I'm going on the record right now. My I have to say that this will be the best match on his show even though I thought that. Aj Thousand and undertaker is GonNa do is going to make us all go holy Holy Hail. Here's takers taker. And a J styles is still wanted top five performance in the world and mark. Don't forget edge and Randy Orton which I know you didn't That that has all that the possibility of that match matching of the night is very real as well. I think one thing that you can't deny is when you look across this bill and you look at the Star Power From Bill Goldberg to John. Sina to AJ styles to the undertaker and the returning of edge. I mean this is In terms of star power this is one of the greatest wrestlemanias on paper. That I've seen will deliver. I don't know that's why we watch and that's why we wait. Now our question to the fans because I ask to you mark Henry should this match between Wyatt and Sina beat for the title. And how excited are you for this match? Eight seven seven five nine hundred eight seven seven three four four eight nine. Three is the number very curious to hear the nation's thoughts on Sina and why it because we've been talking about it a lot here on this show and while we just found out about it last week so it's very fresh new new toys. It's very exciting for a lot of us and you know what mark? You're you're not wrong when you talk about Sina in the title Chase for Rick Flair. Listen that can happen. At any point and common logic I guess would suggest that if Johnson has been off a couple of years and he missed last year's man he's coming back this year and the scene is sucks chance of died down and he feels like he's been hotter than he's been in a lot of years when when people are kind of appreciating his return. Imagine what it would be like if he took another few months off and then came back next year for a push towards Wrestlemainia and that was a story my point is mark it would be even hotter next year so as we talk about it. Maybe I don't hate the idea because if you're going to do it down the road and I think it has to happen mania. I'm okay with waiting for next year. I'm all down for the way. Look at it like this look at the raw rumble. That we had the car was stacked and then the rumble matches they delivered. We were there. We stand here right now. Still in awe of the performance that was that was sick with drew McIntyre and having gin now we haven't even mentioned drew show is so many things that's going on not mentioned brock. Listener drew McIntyre. How crazy is that? Lions Gate to mania and a lot of this stuff is going to be Put the bid but the end result is will have a champion out of Brock Andrew. And I don't think that there's there's that you have to have three or four of them you just need to have one good one and I think that's what we'll get. I think we'll get that really one good one out of Drouin Brock. And then everything else is going to be left to interpretation. You can have a j styles and taker. You can have randy and edge. You can have defeated John. Cena and all of those three matches that I mentioned as opposed to brock and drew are GonNa be hard to beat. I would not WANNA follow that. I'm with you. Let's check in with the nation mark as sound to you. Go all right. We got frank in indy wanting to talk a little. Sina and Bray Wyatt. What's up frank? Man Happy Saturday. How you doing pal? Hey Good Morning. Good Morning Good Morning. Good morning atmosphere. I disagree with that. That firmness about that about the turn. Turn your radio down. Focus Room I was in. I'm sorry it's just Yeah but I. I think that That the Johnson and match would have been good one for the title. But I kinda feel Kinda. Kinda way is framed is like you know. Fans like the fickle fans. Like I think about what message put Roman. You'll have. Some fans are complaining but I think kind of his time. I don't I don't agree with the way them canceling the match. I think they should at least do like the mets to try and get other guys in the eye of the people but I feel like they kind of fixed book in a way. I think it will definitely work with roaming and and Goldberg and Feigned John. Saying that because like you said that would be a epic match. But I don't really see John Senior. I think in Hollywood. I think we may get some next year. But that's a long way away but I think next year. That may be the Josh. Go for that. Yeah Let that historical title. You know what I mean. Yeah and that is and that's what that was the point they did mark brought up and it was a great point. We appreciate the call. Their Frank Enjoy the circle city down there in India. I went to Ball State Indianapolis very very very well but I'm a Chicago Guy. That's okay booking oil Martinuzzi book and right here go knowing that Wrestlemainia is in Los Angeles next year the Hollywood star. When you start thinking Hollywood you think Iraq imagine if it got to the point where the rock got involved and John Seen got involved and it was a triple threat between whoever had the title at that time. Yeah how `Bout Listener? Could you imagine? Leshner Sina in rock kidding me. Wow and those are the kind of moments that Being in Los Angeles you could have that and John. Seen Win a match. Like that to have the debbie supremacy of being the all time title holding winning as a wrestler in history. I mean that. Let's let's not rush gas. They take your time pump. Your brakes let the let the wrestling come to you rather than US trying to dictate it and then when that happens we get what we won't like I mean think about how we're analyzing wrestling right and we just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks let let us concentrate focus effort. Take place let that happen. And then we won't have so many issues you know right now. We're just thinking ourselves Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm FIGHT Nation Channel. One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. Xm APP. What is week in and week out? As far as I'm concerned as we talk about smackdown mark the most intriguing the most emotional and really the best story as we head into Wrestlemainia on well. That's a good thing or bad thing. I'm not complaining. I love it. It is this love triangle. I'm not even call it a triangle. It isn't this love story involving Otis and Mandy. We know they belong together. But roadblocks keep getting in the way and mark last night on smackdown. We had our boy. Otis going up to. Mandy hat in hand trying to apologize to the rose trying to apologize to his lady trying to make amends for that miss date from a few weeks ago. it did not go so well for our. Guy Otis smackdown last night. Andy I just WANNA apologize from last Valentine's Day I did it tex receiving that you're GONNA be late. Screw I'm sorry Otis listen. It's just a little too late woman doesn't appreciate the in setup like that. What what you're more at happened. Otis didn't get a chance to explain himself. Yeah and you know what? That's that's kind of par for the course. When you have an issue with someone like you know Mandy where I think that she is looks in the mirror and sometimes think that you know. We always talk about the outcast. He's should don't think like yeah. I think she's looking in the mirror and thinking that she's an a more elevated place than she is. I mean he's Otis. He's oldest. What a catch we really do in this. You got a big. You got a big burly Guy Comfortable. It would have been a big burly guy. Got A lot of money that's true. His mom makes a hell of a cake. He's a Momma's boy. How listen? What more could you want? Well we're more. He loves it. Mama you love your mom and Egos definitely take care of the that you wit mark. I mean I'm a big guy. And we re for big guys at Otis is a catch but I mean the a side of this relationship is Mandy. Rose I mean Mandy. Rose is really really hot and I mean I actually give credit to own that hot. Oh ooh I will not not not to throw rocks not colored rocks at my throw rocks at my boy no naked eight seven seven. Three eight seven seven. Nobody in the world is that Hot Thawing Roxetta Otis. I'm so pissed I don't know what to do with myself and I. I was mad at Dow Ziglar dolls a piece of trash. He should stay out of the way. And now it's not dolph. No it's not and I talked about this yesterday with Dave and I feel the same way this morning when I woke up as I felt yesterday when I woke up mandate needs to stand up and say listen. I agree with that. What's the deal? Is there a US or is there not US there? You Give Otis the the ability to say you know what let's air dirty laundry you know. I gotta tax. You told me that you were running late. I thought I had time to pick flowers. I get there and I see those ziglar and rather than making a scene and go to jail and a public place. I decided just to go home and let you be with him. Because that's who you wanted to be with. No that's not what happened. I don't know what Tex you're talking about now you can expose what's going on. Can we get there already? I do agree with that. Can we get come? I'm hurting here. I'm hurting here. I don't like seeing a big game pain like that. Yeah he could take a drop kick. He can get run through the rail through the wall. He can he. He could take people's finishes on outside on the floor. I can handle that. We signed up for that but his heart. No one is heartbroken. I don't want him to be sitting in mental anguish. I want that guy to have peace and love train. Nah As rob show but I wanted to have peace on joy like like we deserve. That bless his heart. I feel like we're like the. Liz owes a pro wrestling over here. Jewish boy. I feel like we're just. We're just hold that now from the big people out there that's right. This is Eliza edition male Izzo addition of busted. Open here on this day. You were talking about drop kicks man. We got a great window last night into just how effective heavy machinery can be when they are let loose right and we saw that in the gauntlet match last night. In what was I mean listen? It felt like they were going to go deep into the gauntlet match because it felt like ziglar and rude. We're going to be waiting for him at the end. And that's exactly what happened. But when you match up with the new day to start that gauntlet match and Otis gets the Pan on big E in that first match. I mean that is probably mark. The biggest moment of heavy machineries in ring career so far on the main wrong without a doubt. I mean for them to go and WanNa do announcers Michael Cole mentioned last night that you beat new day you be Luce House party Usoz like and there's people that have not beat the ooh in new day in the same year never to mention in one match so Kudos Man They. They work their ass off last night and thirty minutes. I'm going to tell you you start to be dangerous when you if you can't protect the people that you work with their conditioning for big guys was unrivalled last night. It was really unbelievable to see. And that's why I was so high on the show mainly because of the gauntlet match. I told you I wasn't happy with everything that went on and now I'm sure to. That's what the fans were looting too. But there's very few cases where one match can take over and save a show and last night. That was the case. I thought the Gauntlet managed more than made up for it. And it made the show means if you don't know series Xm than listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car. For just one dollar just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home an online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new siriusxm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required weekly wintertime. It was another great week for professional wrestling. I listened while smack smack down really was whatever positives to take away. I think we hit about all the positives that we possibly could. It definitely was not my weekly winner. In fact smackdown hasn't been my weekly winner since the invasion of annex t Adam Cole going over on Daniel Bryan Saudi Arabia situation. And IT AIN'T GONNA be my weekly winner this week. I'm GonNa tell you I'm gonNA lead this week. Is that okay with you? Go ahead all right so last week you gave your weekly winner to smackdown and although I didn't agree with you I understood the logic from this standpoint. It was Johnson. And Hey if you're gonNA take a moment a singular moment from the week that was and you're going to give that and it is a huge moment. John Cena returning is one of the biggest moments of the year. If that is going to be a criteria to give your weekly winter I am all for it. John had done getting bigger than John. Seen it now that leads me to my weekly winner for this week. You WanNa talk about returns you WanNa talk about legends of the Ring Stepping back into the squared circle and if you WANNA talk about that in context of it being surrounded by his show that really wasn't that spectacular and it really wasn't. I'm talking about all the elite wrestling the show itself. It was fine. There were positives that I can pull from. I don't think it was one of their strong shows. I will say that. But but but but the return of Jake. The snake mother bleeping Roberts and the Promo that that man cut from being away from the squared circle for years and years and years mark to step back into a ring and to deliver a promo with the conviction and the passion and the believability and the psychology that all the things that we come to expect from Jake Roberts but to do it at this level at this year in twenty twenty when we haven't seen that man forever in terms of like a live active storyline. I was blown away like I cannot. I cannot stress enough. How awesome it was to see that and just on that alone Mike if you can give one moment last week to Johnson and making his return and that defined your weekly winner will damn it Jake Roberts stepping back in a ring and doing what he did on Wednesday. That gets my weekly winter for the week. Congratulations to Jake Roberts. That is one of my favorite moments really of like the last ten years in pro wrestling history. That was so bad ass. Mark Bro love to sit here and say you know what I'm GonNa let you change my mind but I'm not good. I'm not GONNA do it. I have to go with raw raw. Got started with brock listener and drew. Mcintyre was like I see what you're doing. You're trying to get me and Braga was like tried to get him Bam Klay more and it showed right away that I can beat you. I can hurt you. I can put you down. And they went back into it again. Drew Live. He came out he gave them and it was like one of these buildup moments for drew McIntyre to stand over and Kip up and stand over Brooklyn. How many times have you seen it? Not many not many know and then there was a good show in the middle. You look at the bookings you only look at the beginning. And the end and Beth Phoenix comes out and Randy. Orton comes out and Randy Precedes V. Best Promo that. Not only has he ever cut in his career. But he delivers a Arcadio to Beth Phoenix and put her down and let me before before I get to that before I get to him giving her Arcadio. All that happened with that. Randy Orton said to Beth Phoenix. I love your husband more than you do. Because you're an enabler to emotional sensitive place that very few people not only are willing to go to Can even go to. We saw historic performance last night. And this that'll be one that will remember for a long time. But getting to the point where the physicality happens is spas was going to be expected next week. So now edge is coming to raw and Randy was the catalyst for that to happen and I hope it's comes back and he is. He looks pitiful. He looks like you know how. How is he going to be able to wrestle randy or never wrestlemainia how and he unleashes? Hale in all the theory that comes with it. I'm talking about Tombstone Comeback Doc Holliday. Ib huckleberry I wanna see it all weapons. Let's go and that is why I say Rau- is my weekly win. Yeah if I wasn't being jake. The snake mark and being hyper not even hyperbolic I mean I was being legit like I truly feel that way Obviously I love Jake. The snake moment but in all seriousness. If you're going off the strength of the entire show I don't see how you can say any other show wasn't the weekly winner other than raw. You brought up the open which it was. Electric with drew McIntyre absolutely put in Brooklyn Down Multiple Times being sold wonderfully by brock listener. Another thing guys gotta stop with the brock listener hate. I don't I don't know what else to say at this point like he puts the address. I know I know. But it out there. And it just baffles my mind you would be. You have no idea how much you would miss brock listener if he wasn't around and I know that's one of the things that people say. Oh he doesn't wrestler he wrestles and he puts people over all right and when it really matters he will give you a match and we are going to get a match at Wrestlemania I. I'm expecting at least fifteen minutes between drew McIntyre and brock listener. Now I'm listen know. That's not the norm especially with Leonard. But I do believe he is a man that likes to prove a point and I think there's a payoff with listener. And we've seen it before where you don't think it's going to be amazing and then it is and that's kind of his thing like I. It's what they've done with them and I really like it. I like. I love the way that lesson has been handled in the. Wwe that whole show. Hey Mark Yes. The book ends right. The way it started was great the way it ended was spectacular but in between there we also had a street. Prophets win taken out Murphy and Rollins team title so that was in there too for the first time they win title. They got over in the process We got to see Kevin Owens who is always good to see. Kevin owns but the motions will walk through the crowd. Did you see the crowd all the cups people toast in and I it was just a really really special moment and the crowd got to share that because they like to go out and the crowd and I guess man I guess they got. They finally got the That they needed to be considered a must see part of television. And I'm I'm just happy to say that that's my pick. Yeah well you talked about. You talked about that. Promo to end the show in Randy. Orton. Taking a deep dive into the psychology of what it takes to be a pro wrestler and the family dynamic you know surrounding being a pro wrestler and he called Yes Beth Phoenix and enabler. Which there's truth to that. Which makes it a great promo. And then he talked about the crowd being enablers feeding into the crowd and wanting edge to be back and this idea that he was saving his friend by putting him out of his misery hurting him to the point to where he could never wrestle again but hurting them to the point where he could still enjoy his family life. That's what makes a great promo is believability. If you can pull from the realities of the world and he can yes right but also still keep it real then then all of that right you can have that formula but then mark you need someone to be able to be the vessel for that formula. You need someone to be able to deliver that formula and Randy Orton and his delivery on Monday night. Was You said it right? You're the famer your your and your friend. I know you were texting with them. And send an innocent praise. But I'm the fan and you're a fan too. That's not to say you're not a fan. But I have watched Randy Orton for well over a decade where a woman was nearing twenty. Years with Randy Orton mark. That was the best I've ever seen him. That is crazy to say that tells you how good that Promo was man. I just I've seen I've been in the Ring Randy a hundred times and I've watched him a thousand times man in the last twenty plus years and where he rose to own on Monday was it was added out of this whole stratosphere like the guy transcended wrestling. It happens every now and then we'll be here all day naming every moment that we thought was unbelievably spectacular but in recent memory. I put it up there with the best of them that that speech was. Leo's inspiring so I mean the emotional side of pro wrestling is why we're fans because more guide mostly invested. I'm gonNA tell everybody knows the story of me being nineteen years old and falling over a barricade and I drink a giant. Picking me up and putting me on the other side of the barricade. You fast forward to this past Saturday. I'm in Los Angeles and I'm sitting next. Andres daughter and Andrei had his hall of fame. Ring he also had they are they are. They had a jacket that Andrei war one his suits and I was able to put on. Andres jacket his ring on top of my ring and take some photos that I sent to you so you can put on on the Sirius. Xm Page it got emotional for me. Sure like I'M. I was visibly emotional. Circle yeah his daughter was like. Oh my God stop it. Now's Kane as like this is this is this is my graceland like it was it was real and that's what. Randy did to thousands. Even millions of people that saw him in that moment an mark as we sit here talking about this dance in this moment. Between Randy Orton. Well your dance is only as good as your partner. And Oh my God Beth. Beth Phoenix needs to get a shit load of credit. And I say shitload because I want the effect there. That was master flea masterfully executed by Beth Phoenix the emotion on her face. The tears welling in her eyes their reaction to each line. That randy dropped. While at least bombshell it was organic. It was real. It was in the moment and Orton. Fed off that in fact mark. I'll go as far as to say without Beth Phoenix. I don't know if Randy is is even remotely as successful in that angle is. He was because I felt like he was feeding off a Beth. And you know what that's why. Why is there not an emmy for pro wrestling performance of the year? Let's talk show the best performance in a wrestling show like it's ridiculous to force performances. I've seen a thousand performances in movies where they didn't get remotely close to the motion that random. Beth put forward remotely close big movies. You know like the Oscar races like it's ridiculous come on. You can't tell me that you look down on wrestling so much that you can see the art you can't see the the entertainment value wrestling presents. You can see the Batista's the giant Cena's the rock. These guys go to Hollywood and they become Hollywood. Keep a Lotta here. And there's more people can get the job done. Put Sam Zane in their bray. Wyatt and Bray Wyatt Charlotte flair and one of the most believable female wrestlers. That come along in a long long time and I can really really see like I shoot hot. When Oscar starts speaking Japanese I don't understand what she's saying but I'm angry and I'm like why are you laughing at fake laugh and it's intentional is very? I don't respect you laugh. You you bore me and talking about guys. Throughout History Guy Right Piper was so good. He was such a natural the Ebony cane to performing acting and he was taken away twosome. But I guarantee you if you would have put him in roles where he would have had the elevators game he would have just remember his mark mark before and not to cut you off before the rock before seen right before there was any that we had Roddy Piper John Carpenter and they live I mean he will he broke into. I mean He. He kicked a door of Hollywood in. He was a a a transcendent force. And you're absolutely right. His his absence still felt to this day. Rip Roddy Piper truly one of the greats and really laid the table for everyone else to follow in many many ways still to this day. One of the greatest heels if not the greatest. He'll that this business has ever seen and he could easily jump over and be a baby face the the versatility of Roddy Piper. And that's that is a great way to end the segment because We'll hell wins a bad time to give the CAP told Hot Rod. Thanks for listening catches Monday to Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Xm by Nation Channel. One fifty six. The busted open podcast.

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WWE Crown Jewel Recap

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WWE Crown Jewel Recap

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CB distillery are the experts if you're into health you be wise to visit C B Distillery Dot Com Austin for twenty percent off at distillery dot com this is right Nation Channel One fifty-six welcome to the busted open podcast aw yesterday afternoon starting with the big news the fiend Bray Dan Seth Rollins we talk about that on today's episode we also get in deep is it and neuronal emotion coming out of that match also we get into at pity I mean in day before we get going job and then the sister Abigail and now a new champion listen for multiple surprises and shocks you mark you can't really have a problem with yeah I I I'm I'm one of those guys that I like to see Wjr and I would have liked to seen him fight the demon from behind but just like we saw at Helena cellmark Bray Wyatt kept getting coming yeah well that's the same thing with the fiend bray why it's just like those like title office seth we now know Bray Wyatt was drafted by afternoon so now both your world heavyweight championship titles are on smackdown and mark on yesterday's show with bully I talked about how seth rollins imbalanced said the same thing how he had to lay down to the guy that's right I guess right now the female white is the hottest thing in the wwe and for all of those people that were criticizing whining not just you but I'm one of all the people that hate a story line perspective that you do him like he do Iraqi sense of loss he loves the title but more than anything he's been fearful mirror like the rocky movies sean having somebody that's clothes me I'M GONNA go out here and I'm going to do with champions do stories in wrestling that made us fans I mean I we've what does rocky all the movies that you've ever watched do one through six pick one like they all have emotionally invested more 'cause you're right you need to get emotionally involved you hit the nail right on the head job especially in his promos get you getting you emotionally invested in him. I think we saw a different type seth rollins going into this match up on Monday I know you you see that Seth rollins because mark you said now he's hit rock bottom now we get to see him at the bottom rung of the ladder and climb his back way up to prominence so now seth has to be that wrestler that gets you emotionally involved we the other guys step up and go why why should he get another shot has perpetuate what we already see he's he's the show because I guarantee you there's about five guys and let's let's get that I that's what I I mean I want diversity run all these guys at the team and and he gives a shot in maybe wins again takes it back all right I like what you're saying work is way up and then during that time see other wrestlers challenging for that title being shoved down our throats now why are we into Roman reigns because he's nowhere near we wouldn't want to see what you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through busted open Asia let's go out to Michael and Indie Michael What'd you think last when I stood up and just raised my hands I was just super excited champion I wanted to see the scene win and that they that he actually stop worrying about that and just enjoy pro wrestling the I liked that and that and that they maybe they just wanted to you know like also now crown jewel Halloween so that's why I think I think he ended call Michael thanks for that call I know it sounds like something you're gonNa have somebody like the fiend win title why not do that on Halloween happy and that's something you could talk about for years and years to come they just now you know we didn't I don't think anybody thought about that going into that show yesterday a character like the wide doesn't need a title but he has the title so is hot right now so why not capitalize it how many times have we talked about whether it's Braun the title and they don't well now they're doing exactly the opposite they now you see the theme is on the card wouldn't against whoever the guy is like that's that's man is good it's not only good take what you get because the businesses so good Berga whatever you want and having bray four and here's the thing to he's going to be on smackdown tonight now smackdown is a tonight on smackdown I know that I do they what do you think about hi he has the title what would happen bad for you and I mean it just like man you can do is so many when you can and I think that I- fans is referenced resident is being mind Mike is it is yours it is our don't know Sirius Xm then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe you can listen on your phone how can you not be singing the praises of the Talia and Lacey Evans after and what a moment never thought that was coming when we found out about it you know ah crown jewel and just a moment where it was hard not to get emotional we get choked up before the match even started and then Lacey Evans in their embrace after the match back between the two of them just a wonderful moment that I'm telling you these women and when I say these women I mean Lacey Tesla because so many things spawned from what wrestling has been attacked and vilified for going to Saudi Arabia of giving a whole entire country a philosophy in just a few minutes don't have all the rights that they are slowly getting but do almost every job that's available and has this is a big moment and the wwe should be really really proud of themselves but we wouldn't like it if we had somebody come their dictatorship there's differences in philosophy to balance out and and be fixed I mean you look at what we're going through in a hundred years ago so let's give it a hundred years gas analysis how did you you didn't know that it would it would came this far them doing shows in Saudi and he talked about the only way you can make changes not getting into the politics of why they're doing it why they I initially thought that it was a Lacey Evans when we talk about change I don't think anybody thought that change world champion in three different sports when you talk about list we don't have one side pitted against the it is and I remember when I was in Louisville Kentucky I heard a story ended and of course is racially the be the name of the school because they segregated when they join when it came to well let's put this name first and then you can hyphen it and no that's that's not what we're going to do like that they were identical they ran the same you know like seventy years old news tell me he was like mark the team that they were eighteen and I was like wow I'm not saying that their philosophy is broken because that's their philosophy they've been that way for the thing that I'm most happy about is happening through pro wrestler I've been that they've wanted to do for a while now which is you bring East Western order that Mike what you're hearing catch busted open live Monday through Saturday showman and so anything to happen him for him to get knocked out and come on man you have two guys striking current world champion out of there like Whoa wait a minute this is wrestling this is not do I mean he could have swung as wild and crazy I was I I mean you walking listen I don't criticize it wasn't what I expect it and move right along to the next thing happy because there were holes in what could have been some of and Mark I andbranch Stroman is the guy that's going to be here moving forward it's not gonna be Tyson if you wrestle and you do all brian throws a punch and drops him Tyson is pulling himself up on the ropes he shaking off now you hear Tyson go and knocks the dog shit out of Brian Cold flat as gene and he stands up and he stands over him like Muhammad Ali and he jumps up and takes a victory lap poetic then the guy gets his ass kicked he knocks his ass and he stands up he gets the one-two-three so frustrated is so this is why a lot of times I get frustrated by did I don't I don't think there was one person who watched that matchup between Tyson fury and how Braun Strowman was portrayed and if there was any tyson fury and there was a story that was played off of that so I don't see what they did because otherwise it made no sense to me at all Fox sports right Brian is one of my guys here but this is the one time that I wish I got a call and go hey man what you anybody and if I was if I was Tyson fear is boxing camp it can happen when you go to the ground and none of them are good and I I would have wanted to protect that and is not boxing wrestling you my world and Tyson came out after him why he was the only ground you don't have to get up and get back down you keep oh you push them to a corner and now you start to get to the point where the ground in a referee goes in like Canada does and now he comes up he shaking his head he's like come it's like a bad habit covers him one two three but he stands Komo and away played out last night was terrible because so does the slam to fury and five seconds later fury's back up on his talk and news they had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius Xm but you don't so you can listen on your phone at home online that Sirius Xm dot com slash busted ask you who do you think about the best reactions last night well definitely belong on that list manslaughter belongs that's that's my list and I know that I love Randy or not that list he got I'm from Mensa Were I mean it was completely nick maybe the best match tonight if you look at it technically what took place in that never disappoints in the ring of course I mean says and when you see him in a ring he never disappoints have you ever seen you and I do mean they were thrown together him and chambers I mean can you think of it Amos is able to come back and resume being the shame maximizes his time with the company and and be this reaction and Umberto man he somebody that they're obviously pushing and giving some shine every week because I could see him being but come back in about three years after you've and you finally able to let your skills and that's what I don't see from him I don't see and that I've seen doing this Pentagon junior and I told Megani some individuals from singles matches he's he's good almost said effing seven he's going to be a monster I mean. Aj styles a handsome body looks good athletic can move bigger and thicker you look at his brain you could tell he's got room to grow you know I mean don't job him out but I wouldn't put him in before he he was he was impressive he made me think about the future of with the wwe you know you've you've recommended town you've helped develop minor league coach talking about an mlb prospect is that the to bring along other guys especially young ones making him look good without you know overdoing it I wish I could I could I could be my prime rib sulfuric Cochet I make it a contest and people feel it they can sense it we talk a lot about Seth Rollins I've talked a lot about seth rollins and phony when you want to garner some emotion from these guys as you do you by the heel and just chunk them into ropes kick him out but it's not etched in stone I'm GonNa Change every now and then happens it's not perfect it's not going to be polished up I don't just happens and people can't see through you they don't look at you like that was script you know the lines but how you deliver them Is What makes a good Paris Hamilton and all of these great Broadway plays participants that make it I wanna see ricochet no wrestling does me dominating him throwing him into a turn Book Bang and he moves and now be fly come up you better get up and Monday is going to be a collective oh and I'm GonNa just that's why I WANNA ran the weapon I wanna Vince always Vince love guys that fight with the hands up it means you these

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The Rack 04-07-20

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The Rack 04-07-20

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It's Tuesday no one of those days it starts with T we're here to talk about wrestlemainia because it's too big for just one night too big for just one show and she talked me into it so okay so the reason why we're doing this and we've kind of already explained this but just in case anybody hasn't heard it is because we went three hours on the full show last week three and a half three and a half we decided let's just split. Wrestlemainia out in its own show because their stuff that we want to talk about on Thursday that we don't want to be rushed to talk about because we have to get through eight matches of Wrestlemainia and there is a crap ton to impact from this one. So we're like screw it. We're just GONNA go live and we're GonNa talk about it and also I really just want to talk about this wrestlemainia because I love the shit out of the show and I've just been like ready to talk about has been buzzing and a couple of things one. We also went two and a half hours. On Saturday night live recap recap day one. So we've already done two and a half hours of rest of meaning review so this is the back half for date to tweet us. Talk Radio Eric. Racial Word Cochran. Show Dot com which we live and you can participate in chat. Don't be afraid to chat even if you disagree with our opinions. Yeah so we are going to open Matt. We're looking at. You called him out on Yup we we know you can. We can trust you. You're fine We're going to start with the firefly funhouse. We are going to talk about that. I because that is the most to unpack and when I tell you there's a lot there. We sat here last night and we took notes on it and we tried to grab every reference every little detail. Everything and I'm sure we miss stuff from that. I don't even want to call it a match because it really wasn't really match. It was an experience that we could get year. We did film study chat. We did film study. We went through this piece by piece by piece. We pause re rewound to make sure we got everything we had made skeletons. We did full on film study. This is the effort you get on the rack on Tuesday because we have to talk about it. So without further ADO. Let's jump right into our wrestlemainia recap brought to you by friends or NBC films to Dot Com Slash NBC. Twelve eleven and. Just make eight perfectly clear. We are talking about the fun house. I we're GONNA take a break and we're gonNA talk about everybody else but the fun house gets its own segment because reasons because simply put you watch you parents. I just don't even with that. So all right. So this match fell as the second Experienced sorry this experience fell as the second to last vitam event. Whatever on the card followed only by the world title match and I just. I don't know if that was the best decision but having seen it. I don't know where else you could put that. I do the end the end but then we wouldn't have gotten titus face. You could've ended the show on tightness face. You could have really could imagine Russell. Millions with Deals FACE STUNNED SHOCKED. Unable to process where he discloses. Wrestlemainia where it with. I don't know what I just saw I'm out and that's that's the wrestlemainia but no drew. Mcintyre deserves to close wrestlemainia. But this was the second to last on the card. We'll we'll talk about what this did to China match when we get there but yeah so this match opens with John. Cena coming out so first reaction was wait. What yeah going into this especially after the boneyard match. Nobody really knew what to expect there was there. Were no rumors or no leaks. There's no nothing surrounding this. We just knew that this was going to be messed up. Because it's bray white right so we don't we don't know we just don't know and this man this match experience. Whatever I'm just GONNA keep calling in a match because that's all I know to do but it was really experience and experience was unlike. I feel like anything we've ever seen. I'm just going to put it like that. So we open in the arena. John CENA comes out. He comes out ten. No no crowd. He's he's looking for. His booze is looking for cheers. They're not there and he's like what am I supposed to do? I don't know where am I supposed to do. He looks at the camera guy. What am I supposed to do? And he does delay. Think he knows how to do. Say welcomed the Wrestlemainia and it all went downhill from there except as Jones saying welcome to Wrestlemainia. We get a messed up little video package cutting back before between me gene ochre Linden. Vince McMahon saying welcome to Wrestlemainia with a twisted dark moments in mixed into it. And then we cut to the funhouse with Bray looking his most innocent in non murderous he has an opening monologue for this match where he gets deep he he does he really gets deepen the thought on this one. So he goes into his conspiracy theories complete with alien music that another world exists were deepest. Darkest desires are no longer secret. Gods Angels Demons and monsters are neighbors. And we've lost you what I'm assuming is Satan holding a sheet full of cartoon images of Gods Angels Demons and monsters and by the way if you look at the Satan the ears on on the same where the one like the ones you would have on devil so maybe I'm just I'm just I'm just pointing out baby. Vince McMahon the scene. I'm just throwing it out there. I don't know how many subtle references getting you get away with before he piss off your boss who knows what's get away with just a thought it's a thought out there anyway. Continue on so in this in this experience. We're going to get to know John. Sina deep inside the historic his wants his desires. And all the things I've ever heard him and Jon husted face his most dangerous opponent. God himself who's member? Remember Short Sean. How the face guide? Yeah that was. That was that wasn't experienced to that. Was the thing that happened. Thankfully it only happened. I imagine if they put Shawn and Vince and God in this type of video type thing Oh God and that's how he would fight God they could never get away with it but imagine what it would look like now. Yeah Chat Matt. Imagine Imagine Art back-off tender. Yeah back off tangent so bray says welcomed to the firefly funhouse and he disappears behind the door exiting the funhouse and John is teleported to the magical world of Bray Wyatt. He's in the fun house. And he's surrounded by Abby and mercy's box no Huskisson. Huskies mercy's box and the cardboard cut alibi and cut in half. What was what was left of the cut out. Yeah I went psycho on when the segments originally the the very first one he cut it in half but it was the original. Yeah this was the original set with the original props so we're believing based on everything that happened in this match this was possibly shot in Stanford but I'm not. I'm not ruling out the possibility that they threw a bunch of crap on a truck and send it down. All right just went in there for the run around the warehouse with this this this this which if there is I want video up. But anyway so Johnny's looking around he's nervous. He's not liking what he's seeing. He's a little scared. And then a beacon of light a beacon of hope our sweet Prince Ramle Rabbit POPs up from behind the TV. And he's so happy John's here he so excited and he you know he asked Johnny looking for braided. Yeah I saw it with Alli. What's He was our? I love the Rabbit. I love Ramblin so much and the last words from Ramblin Rabbit to John. Cena are careful dude dude so john walks into the darkness outside the Fun House and we have to say that honestly this kind a lot of people think comparing this part or a lot of this to the final deletion. I would say that this part here. Moore's minded me of the Christian show. Yes what is like have watched every almost every Show the Tiller Rex. Awesome is available to them like this. Part of the segment was shot. Exactly like one of the scenes they did in the past like completely in the dark type of camera straightforward like it came right out of the show continue so John's in the dark. He's looking around. We have ominous music and then out of nowhere. Don't don't don't we get the boss. Puppet he pops up and he starts to poke John about his lack of ruthless aggression and essentially we get a repeat evinces promo where he's poking at John. It wasn't it wasn't poking at the pro. He was he was cutting was the promo he cut on all to all the superstars. This was before they before sailing up where he's looking for. I'm looking for someone with Bruce Willis aggression. Who's IT GONNA BE? That was the Promo and Vince. Tell Sina to step it up or he's fired which I have to say. This spray does all the voices for the puppet. He does a fucking killer Vincent impression he does. I mean he got it like bought on like I was sitting here watching like four times now and it's like are we sure that it's not it's like are we. Are we positive? They didn't get Vince to do this or or positive as you. You can hear his voice. Yeah you can hear brace voice. But it's just like it's really a really really good impression events so props to him Ash The rabbit did not die in this one thing that did not happen is the rabbit. Didn't die he died for this but not during this so we cut to the ring to John. Cena's debut we're Bray is Kurt Angle. He's not in the singlet but he cuts the same promos angle when he's issuing the open challenge. Who's WHO's man enough to stand toe to toe with Bray Wyatt's but imagine Kurt Angle or angle singlet? Imagine Thou with hysterical. I would have been hilarious but I don't think that would have happened side note. I loved that they found Genes that made him look at an ass. I I had to kind of laugh at that a little bit like they finally found him some that like actually fit his nonexistent. But he's cutting the Kurt angle permit to word for word. Just replacing Kurt Angle with Bright Wyatt. Then you hear the generic music play and it's John Xena in his whole tights. Running by the fists might found fish. The giants back down this like the Internet pop so hard for the best. We're like Oh my God there because if you remember when the smackdown live came out it was in the trains. When they went logged with micro like everyone was wanting to come back on the news. It did not but it was like. Oh God there's the fest and so everyone loves a good thing if you're a wwe fan yet. We're all about the fisting so John runs to the ring at all John. Can Do is say ruthless aggression very aggressively and swing at Bray Wyatt with one arm. That's all he can do. And so- brace talking to John and John's like takes a swing at Bray ruthless aggression braid ducks pops back up and he's like well. John I- witnessing your biggest failure. It's actually kind of embarrassing. No wonder you almost got fired. Ruthless Aggression swiping break. And then and then we get it the clip to end all clips. You can't question to miss. We should know bray did it with a smirk on his face. He had a hip swivel. Going on any wiggled as eyebrows. Ajan very very really got into. You'll get much pants. The they'll laugh at the best. He enjoyed the crap out of that. I just WANNA say pausing on this match. If they're out takes of this is I want to know how many times they shoot that without losing their shit. I WANNA see them. I want to see the outtakes I really really do because I swear to God. They exist because these two had way the hell too much. Fun Shooting Nece Just way too much fun. You can tell So after after the final shot break it's out of the ring and runs off and John Chases after him and then then rock. It's too hot to handle. It's too cold to hold. Its sorry nights main event and what made its return to. Wwe screens the old big blue caves. He's part of it part of it though and you can tell the original case because it's so rusted. Yeah Yeah it needs a little love it needs a Lotta love. It's been sitting in the warehouse for Awhile. Now so the brushback whole schools. Sinai's intro and everything's bison with a couple of clips and then you had your announced team Macho mercy and Mr Mc Bosman. Those great awesome mutter. Mercy's got the sunglasses on like the Macho Man Sunglasses on. It's it's fantastic. And we see Muscle Man Bray. He's behind the cage and we think he's doing randy. Savage can't one hundred percent tell who he's doing. He's doing like an eighty southern wrestler savage or Hogan. I'm not sure. Yeah it's it's hard to say but basically brace about his tag team partner the ladies love him the men. WanNa be him Johnny Large Meat where the hell is my shirt. Wwe where is it? I want my Johnny Large Meat Shirt. I need it. I need that in my life. It's probably wouldn't be the least bit surprised. But yes. So Johnny. Large Meet Aka John Cena in his gear regular year should say comes out. He's pumping iron look at his body. It's all jacked It we don't think about the Eric's I don't think it was. The was the numbers now because I thought it might be like vary too but I don't think because of the pumping iron out was the snow so anyway so John Comes in he's pumping iron he's jacked. He's got veins popping. It looked so not natural. Look so weird. It was so gross with the veins. But he's pumping iron man and they're talking about you know basically what you're GonNa do brother what's GonNa do John You know. John does his best Hogan impression. While he's pumping the Iron Abby the witch as they zoom in on John's body her jaw drops and she leans in and then and then the most unfortunate thing ever happens John's pythons just wear out and he blows out and quotations his arms and he can't move his arms all he can do is swing his limp arms at. Bray will brace smirks at him. So what you're saying. Is Johnny Large Meet? Went Limp. He did Johnny Large me went limp absent. Jaffer Joey large meat going on. Yeah such a shame but brass John what she gonNA do brother. When Ego Mania runs wild on you and then he and while while brace asking him that we cut to mercy in the boss puppet and Ceric boss. Man's like dammit keep your hands up adds up got by God. Keep hands up and embrace grabs. Sina and throws him out. The Saturday night's main event in directly into the doctor of Thug Economics. We should stop right here for and just sort of go there for just taking shots that they have and district being creative with the light. They're not the one that you have to say about what we've seen so far. We're they took their. They took shots and they were creative with them in this one like this whole segment may not be everyone's cup of teachers but they were. They were having fun. And you could tell in a scenario were. John Probably shouldn't wrestle. No independent taking bumps now for insurance reasons. He shouldn't be taken them up. Say That will happen. This is a really clever way to get around that problem and I think while I wanted this to be a little bit more physical what. We got in terms of presentation in terms of creativity more than made up for it. Because this is an example of how Barbara Wyatt has come that you can get away with something like this and it completely works for him. And I'M GONNA and I'm going to explain why wouldn't have worked with the ocare when we get there because rocks wish came true in this. I wish came true in this But yeah just just to be able to do this and do as much as they did in this. Because this isn't the end. This is only the middle. This is like the next. There's like a few more parts after this in terms of references in terms of places that they took this but essentially what this is. Joe Is Bray Wyatt. Taking control of John Cena and making John take a really hard look at himself and who he is an essentially turning John into a parody of himself and bray playing a raw along for the ride and being the quote unquote puppet master through this. So it's really clever. It's a really well. Thought out and extremely well executed own was gone they. They took their time and took their effort than they made. Everything can't yep they. They took their shots and they took their chance and it works so we go to the doctor of economic seen as in his mania gear from last year. With with everything the to- the had the exact hat the things on his on his knuckles and the shirt. It was right down to the team from last year's Wrestlemainia. So good callback very callback. So we get. The flashback. Word Life video with the rabbits spliced. In He's wearing the glasses running the keyboard huskisson abby or group into the beat Braise grooving to the be. Seena gets in the rain. And he's he's like you know. I went from six to midnight. And that's when he realizes he can only talk in rhyme. You know it's what you gotTa do when your doctor? He just gotTa talk in in in rhymes to make it all cool and everything like that. So and again. It's that level of psychological controlled at braves exercising where it's and physical control where it's like. When he first starts all he can do is be basic John Cena and say ruthless aggression and do one swing in the next part all he can do is work out and Hogan like Promo and then blow his arms out and then he can't fight now here he is. He's the doctor Thug Annex and all he can do speak in rhyme so seena says I went from six to midnight. You're not taking away my my limelight. He's using rap to his advantage. Unlike Husky Harris. It's a wait. He can manage bray felt the Husky shot. He's like all right all right. Okay Gotcha or does it all right. I see where you went there. Aren't I got you? Hey brave got an idea for your puppet show put my Junkin glove and you can call it. Mr Suck Bro. Oh you've been a disappointment since they brought it to the dance your slut for opportunity but you're blowing every chance. Yeah the real soft Russi huns hands off. The floor was great. I loved it seemed call bracelet to his face. I mean what you call them every night so God damn it's about somebody you know. Somebody had to do it but Tom May. Telvision can't he's a slight rate wider slept. Pass it around. Well well same around me. Somebody else does so anyway. Were Life Ray. Ray TAKES THE MIC. And he says basically seen as wrong. He's had earned every chance every opportunity he's been given. John is the golden goose. He's untouchable. He's not a hero. He's a bully. Oh snap he's a horrible person. You take the weakness of others and he turns it into a joke. Do Anything for fame. You're you're the man. John Poor Lonely John Zena. I'm me those weren't lives. Those weren't lies where they he's has reputation for being there. There are some stories. They're come in the lie. Us ask Alex Riley go so bray steps back into the corner and says the floor is yours John Goes. You're in the doctor's house getting up in my face. All you'll get our these nuts little bag of Nazi hills literal bag of almonds on the same. That's from last year in your face. Tosses nuts at bray. John runs brave brave vanishes out of the corner and reappears behind him. He's got John's chain around his neck and he's very slowly wrapping the chain around his hand as John. Very lightly touches his chest and realizes the chains gone. He's confused it basically. I think it's that's like what such John Free Is. The chain around his neck as it were Is that weight is lifted. And he's now back to being him. John Turns around and brain knocks him right out boom then pass then. Okay so if you listen to the show last week on Thursday not on Tuesday on a Thursday. I told you what I wanted to see in in this match. One thing I wanNA see. I wanted to see the return of old school bray. Wyatt what we get we got the slops swamps lot. Y'All over in in his formal slut pants. If you don't know what those are. The former slept pants are the white pants. He got dressed up for John. He had the black other hat and then he had on one of the Hawaiian shirts. It wasn't anything that tied anything significant unless it was something to do with the bracing. A feud I didn't go that deep into it. But he did have on one of the Hawaiian Pants and he did have on the original snakeskin shoes that he wore when he debuted And they were also the pants incidentally that he went toe to toe with against the rock. Now there was a lot going on in this background because they basically recreated like Bray Wyatt old school background behind him And we had to grab all the references out of this because there was a lot of stuff in there that it took a couple tries to to actually get payments. This took US ten minutes to figure this out faithfully. Wwe was very nice to release still shots from this match for sale on wwe shop so we were able to grab quite a lot of the references out of this and we didn't even go look at the match pictures we didn't have to because they gave us a nice wide angle of everything going on in the background. So first and foremost chair. Actually both chairs were there Interestingly enough there were two rocking chairs there He was seated in the chair. When you cut in on him you saw ruins sheet mask. Some of them laying around Around him behind him is mercy shirt and I think on to one side is mercy. Shirt to the other side is that I think a stuffed rabbit stuffed animal rabbit. That's all dirty and abused and kind of shoved up in a corner in like the chain link. I think there's also a stuffed pigs of the same nature somewhere else in there but I couldn't make out what it was like. A pink thing in the background couldn't quite tell what it was but I think that's the pig and then I think like Abbey's doll face is in a black box at his feet so I think. All the puppets were technically present or at least referenced in this. But they weren't actually there so I think this is the start of the puppet personalities is where this all Kinda ties at in. I don't know though so we have that. We have the Lantern Room. The original answer. Not THE FACE LANTERN. Creepy is also one of the old school dolls from. I think not only the House of horrors match but also from the original promos that they did for the white family when they debuted. Now this is where this gets a little interesting because everything around him is white references right. We have ruins maths. We have melted faces. Slush SHEEP MASKS. Maybe that are from the burned down house When Randy Torch the compound? But there's something off on the floor in the forefront that you have to look to see but it's there and that's the undertaker's it's there guys. He still has it. It's there you have to look for it if you watch if you're watching the match and they do a wide shot is on the floor on the left hand side towards the front. It's very hard to see in the match in the match itself but when we looked at the picture it's there you can very clearly see it. There is also a casket lid a Pine Casket Lid in the background behind everything and then in the forefront on the right hand side. There's a mysterious wide-brimmed black hat that is not a fedora. Knows so there are multiple references. What I believe are multiple references to take her the earn for sure the earn is one hundred percent. A reference to his match with taker. So they're very much could be clues about the future the future which will get into. We'll talk about that after we get through the match but that was all the references that we could find in the background around. Bray if you saw anything else please tweet us. Put it in chat. Let us know what you think. So then we get to the Promo and Oh my God old school Bray Wyatt in his purest form. Full of fire and Brimstone of Jesus. I've missed this is made me so happy so bray. He was a color red and a world full of black and white. He had the whole world in his hands. And as he's talking their inner cutting Shots his debut and shots of him directing the crowd singing and shots of Wrestlemainia. Thirty in the whole build Wrestlemainia thirty and abigail spoke of the state his entire life and then we see the physical shot of Abigail from one of the PROMOS and John. Good sorry John John. You're supposed to be a man of the people that why weren't you listening? And we have more flashbacks to Wrestlemainia. Thirty in bray directing the crowd again in them seeing. He's got the whole world in his hands. Though hear them now John. They wanted me. They needed me. It was supposed to be a prophecy fulfilled but instead it was my grandest failure. I've heard for so long. I don't remember how to feel now. I'm going to rewrite own story. That's really key guys. Hold onto that. We cut back to the ring raise in the chair. He's glaring at John and he goes run throws off his hat. Yai Bursts out of the chair. He tackles John in the corner and they have their dance backroom resume. There were the head unless little dance during her brain. Does his waltz seen as unconscious and bray goes for the Sister Abigail? And by the way CENA's wearing his shirt either from wrestlemainia. Thirty or in the bill wrestlemainia thirty. But it's that same shirt and John breaks free sister Abigail embrace starts to starts to drop to his knees as he looks John Goes. That's not enough to end the superman but this is an holds out the chair or H-share to John. You get all these flashbacks wrestlemania thirty like do it do it do it. John Takes the chair embrago six years ago. You made the wrong choice cowboy. John You can end this. You can fix it fix it John and brace screaming at him fix it and John makes the right choice and he aggressively swings and as he swings for Bray Bray disappears and once bray disappears. Brace hold on John Disappears and John Takes Woolen. Look at the chair. Looks at it in panic and discuss throws it down and backs away from it. He's confused. He doesn't know what's going on. And then then we have to go a little nitro in a complete left. Turn the NITRO intro plays. We've got the black and white stuff going on and there's breads and wwl. You'll Monday nitro that when they took over Monday nitro for a night. There's Bray in the ring in his leather jacket. Doing his best. Eric Bischoff impression which Eric Bischoff had the strategy of the he's like I was fired enough Tober and I may have entered Wrestlemainia. Nobody's ever done that before. Like Oh Eric Troll Goddamn troll eleven so braves like you know what I WANNA do. You know what I really really really WANNA do. And then he introduces Hollywood's Sina with the N. W. O. title subdued. Shit right here. Yeah and that's where the me was born guys Mr Mc boss Man. This is some good shit some good shit right here. This is such good shifts. Such good shit. Yeah which is Vince. Mcmahon like everyone says. That's what Vince says. The really like something. This could shit. Let's go pal. It's interesting. How many Hogan shots they took. Hogan Shawn's been shots. It's just really funny. So so the two sweet sweet in all the trademarks. You know John's using the titles guitar. They're they're laughing. They're having a good time. And then they flash to win the IN W attacked and John John Turns on Bray Bischoff or Eric Wyatt or you WanNa put it where Maria easy easy easy be works and he attacks him and he starts to Pummel Bray. Stop you're hurting him. Abby and rambling plead with John. To stop he continues to Pummel. Bray says this angle light is like. Oh Oh and we see in as John is continuing to Pummel. What we think is bray. We see shots of signs of Sina. Wins. We riot here. Sina being booed we get the scene. Sucks chance you know. We see shots of punk leaving with the w championship taker of tubes. Zoning him I was all what we saw. Were Bisky seen as Piggott's failures? Sina losing one stance who lives in the punk scene losing to the undertaker wrestlemainia things like that. A lot of his big failures and John just snaps he continues to Pummel and he continues to pummel until Bray becomes hospice the pig and we just see a lifeless husks laying under John and John Stops and he just brakes. You just see him break right there. He's in his regular gear. He's himself he's free of Bray Wyatt spell for the moment an all olive raise magic. Olive RAISE MIND. Games have worked except the. Something's not quite right. Things are a little gritty or a little grainy their little de Saturated here. And we see the fiend laying in wait behind. Sina. Who's just broken. He doesn't know what to do he I think he's realized his everything is screwed. He screwed an everything. Bray Wyatt said was true. And that the fiend does not rely on fear or confusion or chaos. The fiend will take you apart and use your flaws against you at beat you with him and somebody came with really good theory that we're GonNa talk about after that but essentially Bray Wyatt and John. Cena are the same person. Just two different presentations if you look at whether they came up on the main roster different points ruthless crushing. Johnson. It didn't work Husky work. They had to be repackage to work. I Will Continue. So the fiend strikes as seen it turns around. He grabbed Sina with the mandible claw. And as the. Fiend IS MEDICAL CLAWING. Sina down we. They overlay seen as promo his final promo from smackdown. Which is the outguess. Okay he says sister Abigail and he goes this natural. -CCOMPLISH what should have happened six years ago. And in the existence of the most over hyped overvalued over privileged. Wwe superstar in existence. Bray hits the Sister Abigail but he's not done. The fiend goes for the kill with more mandible claw and he's got seen a down. He's got him on his back. Bray Bray appears in count down one to three winky face in a laugh. And the fiend wins Fiend Beach John Cena and stands tall in Triumph Sina vanishes and we get the let me in and that is the last thing we see of the firefly funhouse before we cut to titus. O'neil's face I. I don't know what I saw. I think it was everybody. I think Titus O'Neal was all of us in that moment because I think we all sat here for a minute and we're like Holy Shit. What did we just watch like? This was a train wreck in all the best ways I mean you just you could not take your eyes off. It was positively hypnotic and like I said I watched it four times in the last forty eight hours partially because I was trying to do research for it and partially because I just wanted to watch it again because there's such beautiful storytelling in this and it shows like I said how far Bray Wyatt has come as a character and I'm going to use his real name and if it's offensive. I'm sorry and it shows how ungodly talented windham Rotunda really. It's that boy is gifted In terms of being able to do a character and act and do voices and everything else. Oh by God I hope. He has a career after wrestling in terms of acting because he should. I mean he did what Four or five different characters in one. Match not to mention he voiced all the puppets. Which the puppets weren't that much. But he still every week he does the voicing for the puppets and they all have different voices and they all have different characteristics and everything else. It's just insane. How talented talented he hits. He's very tone. He's very charismatic. Very entertaining he has something that could draw you to the television screen which is why he has the following that he does and here this this ill experience whole segment this whole batch in quotation where he got his wind back from Johnson. He the phen- ride the wrong from what happened with very wide and John CENA resume thirty showed how the range of very wide as the person the character can do again. We said this top. This may not be for everybody. That's fine but you look at this this whole thing and you go. They told one Hella a story from top to bottom. They showed you all the falls. A Johnson other showed the flaws bright Wyatt and they went back and told the story like some people are like. Oh they just do this together. It's like if you look at it. No there's a lot of hidden details that no one will really get. Unless you're really fan of John steeler Fan of Brian the Oh yeah that makes sense in that all it all ties again. Gather because there's it's very subtle points. There's little things that are just so so beautiful and while I was thrilled to see the swamp. Original version abrupt Y. And hear him in his pure form and see him really be all that we ever felt he could be this. You could have never done anything like this with him. Never it never would've worked in this context. The fact that Bray has come up with a character that is that universal that can do this right which is just complete batch insanity going from one thing to another it all ties together because it's all a story and it work is amazing and not only just work with the one character work with the fien too. I mean that was that. Just amazing to me the big props John. Because John didn't have. Oh Yeah they could've gone out and now it's just a little quick match in the Ring Bing Bam boom you beat me. Yeah the fact that was Sealer who as we've seen his movies are is willing to take chances and not look like a fool at times. He was able to poke fun at himself. And that's the best person you compete is when you can poke fun at yourself. This is the best characters because if you just keep to yourself and you keep your character and you're very protective of it then nothing's ever GonNa get -CCOMPLISH and John knew that John knows his place right now. He's not here long-term he's not in w to be the guy inning where he's here to help get something over. Despite his promos were saying he came into Wrestlemainia. Thirty six and got the fiend over the theme he got bright wide over. He ride the wrong. In what the fans thought he got he reestablished bright after Bright Lost Goldberg. Which is the funny story about that for with Thron? Because apparently was driving up in Wisconsin. He was three hours away from. Wisconsin had to be after driving. Twenty one hours that was told. Hey you gotta come back to work. So if they flew back in on jet the same he was there for three hours. It flew him back in the jet so he can work wrestlemainia because they were in trouble because a Roman. That's why when we reviewed it on Saturday. It's like Whoa. What was he wearing? What was he doing That explains it all good on Bravo number on for doing that. Flying back after driving. Twenty one hours man. That that sucks but I what I really liked about this is. This wasn't all the fiend. This was the they held the fiend back until the very end and they let they let funhouse bray shine which is what I feel like they needed to do because we get so little exposure to Funhouse Bray just essentially what we see in the promos that to actually get to see him do everything that he did where he did the impressions and he did the funny skits and he did the the rap battle in the insults in the promos and everything else outside of the fiend was absolutely wonderful. And then you get to the end. And he's waiting. He's waiting to come in for the kill. Like funhouse. Bray does his job he strips seen a down he breaks Sina and the fien comes in and finishes the job. This is just embrace hotline. It's Ju Yeah. This is all embrace head all of this. That that's where this assume this takes place. Is the fun houses embrace mine? The puppets our voices embrace head. The fiend is something a braise imagination and funhouse brace how he sees himself which is again. It just absolutely incredible but I wanNA bring up those we talked about it and I have to bring it up a couple of things one since John. Pummeled him is huskies dead thus killing Husky Harris once and for all. Maybe we'll have to see on that one but I found that interesting that out of all the puppets houses the one that gets it And to talk about. Take a references. We have to 'cause braces the jaw. He's going to right the wrong. He's going to rewrite his own story and it doesn't he doesn't follow that up with John he just says. I'm going to rewrite my own story. And there's a lot of references to take her now. Brea had a bunch of big feuds when he was the swamp version but if any very interesting at all the props that were selected there were like three Three references to take her. At least. That's very very interesting to me because there was like nothing referencing randy. Nothing referencing Matt. Hardy the references ruin nothing for Harper. Who's really cute for harbor? Yeah well I mean you throw in like a plaid shirt or Bandanna or something in there in that could have been him But all the big feuds taker is extremely present makes you wonder is some ticker next on the Hitless. I mean he could be a in terms of doing a cinematic match in terms of doing something else like this now now is the time. Let's all be completely real. It's all be completely honest. They are not going to have audiences back in. Arenas anytime soon. So they're going to have to find clever ways to do empty arena matches and clearly. The cinematics are hit. They didn't excellent job on both. It's the way it is the best way at least for taker to be shown because you can show him in his best light and he looks phenomenal and Bray looked fantastic and phenomenal as well. But Bray doesn't necessarily need it but if you need the smoke mirrors for Brian Taker. You have the smoke and mirrors and just imagine the mind games. They could play with each other but they could really really do something. Go and Bray just rakes. Takers passed over the coals because for personal and professional Because AJ opened the door. You can go there with him now. Now Willie do all the stupid silly skits. Probably not but I just invite you to think about it. Bray Wyatt doing his best pallbearer impression. Ooh I mean he could. He could do best. Drc impression just just think about that. Y'All I've also seen a lot of people saying take our staying no please. Don't I mean maybe cinematic you need a story and just because of too dark heart doesn't give them a story at this stage of the game. Yeah but I mean you could do it if you really wanted to. This was this was nothing what anybody expected because we didn't know what to expect but this was beyond satisfying in terms of how they did this. I was expecting something much more physical and it wasn't But you had bray playing mind games. You had bray controlling. Sina through the whole thing where it's you know. Bray Challenge Sina to his match right firefly phone house where he has all the control. So brave was able to win. And you got to see very Wyatt at his most powerful which I loved. I'm here for And also we got the swamp slut which was on the thing on the K. in all his glory. Oh God it just made me happy like I. I love the feet and I love funhouse spray. But I'm a purist. She is and I never. I always felt like the swamp version of never really got his do because he lost Sina and he never ever really got that same momentum back is what he had was seen. He came close but he never got that full momentum back and nobody really ever took him seriously after that but I think with that we take a break. Yeah so we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we are going to be talking about the other matches the other seven matches on the car other eight eight all right the pre show so you'll soon the record here on wall talk. 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I have one Chris in them of this match because I thought it was a solemn match not great not not think about it. Sued sauvage. Live is definitely improving and being in the ring with now helps. She needs to be more nine. The it'd be more vocal and expressive in the match. I mean that's not thinks she's used to doing. It's not true natty form but we need more of that especially to add to the Elbe. Enough no crowd. We'll talk about in the next match where they were the complete opposite than the very expressive in their match. Yeah this Wrestlemainia was very much about acting emoting playing to the cameras versus playing to the crowd and I feel like the people that are very very good at doing that. Rose to the top in this Wrestlemainia Because there were a lot of people who pivoted who understood? There is no crowd so we have to be loud. We have to make sure that the cameras and the mics here us so that way the crowd. Here's at home. 'cause they get the crowd is not there but they're watching they're listening. They're they're so they WANNA make sure they're heard and there was a lot of banter. There was a lot of insults. There's a lot of back and forth throughout a ton of the matches. This one didn't have as much they tried. They tried really hard I know that it's not Nazis Forte. No it's not. It's not really what she's used to doing. She did try but she's emoting. Acting is not necessarily a part of what she does. So it's excusable it's fine Live like you said is definitely improving and being the ring with. Natty certainly doesn't hurt. She's one of the best wrestlers in the business But yeah this was just okay. This was this. This wasn't necessarily anything to write home about but this was this was fine. It was Capriccio match. Then we get to the main shown kicked off with Charlotte flair challenging rea- Ripley for the NFC women's championship and say these two girls were allowed. These two girls were really really really loud. That's a good thing because they hit hard all day all night and they came in and coming and coming after one another and then fantastic. They didn't just hit hard with their fists. They hit hard with insults to like. They were hurling. Insults left right and center. They were screaming at each other. I this this was great. The only thing it makes me cry about this match is that you know. They both had special entrances. You know they did because Charlotte came out in this absolutely glorious. Fantastic the jeweled robe. Rhea had new gear made where it was blue and white and gold which is a throwback to her first original gear. Apparently and she looked great. She looked fantastic. Cayenne wrong but you could actually finally see her assets. Yeah you could. She had a top. That was not just cut out t-shirt But she looks fun and either. Yeah but it just showed that she had stuff scarlett. She had Iraq. Anyway it's doing moving on so yeah. This was fantastic. This was absolutely fantastic. Love the crap out of this. This was super hit hard hitting like rock said. This was the best match of the weekend. Yeah Yeah and I think a lot of people were disappointed with the finish because in the end Charlotte one. And she's now you're annexed he women's champion Alabama. I was one of the people that just because it's like Oh. Ll Charlotte wins a title at Mania. Woo But apparently. Ria is having to renew her visa supposedly. There's a rumor going around. That Ripley has to renew her reasons headed back to Australia. Whether or not we do not know. We cannot confirm. Confirm it but if that's one of the reasons behind it then there you go number two. There's talk about it being for innings and help try to spice up the annexed earrings. And when you gotTa do what you gotTa do and let's be real we if we exchanged Charlotte for rare right now or another Charlotte Bianca right now on on brands. It's fine because now going forward. You have the opportunity to gift. Charlotte knew matches. And that's the one thing she hasn't had in forever because she's been wrestling Becky Lynn for so long. It's been Becky Becky Charlotte And asked that's about it. That's all we have really have. There's no real new opponents for Charlotte. So her go to. Annex T as the champion opens up a wide variety of new matches new challenges for her 'cause Charlotte's athlete and she loves competition than she steps per game when she faces New People. Look what she did with Ripley resume. She was with Bianca. Bel Air and imagine what you could do with the rest of the roster Dannon and exceed right. Now you have six women tomorrow night on T. competing to fight Charlotte flare not just real rippling out Charlotte flare you have the women you gotTa Fight Against Imagine Charlotte flare versus teagan knocks any yeah Charlotte versus Yoshahara. I mean let's be realistic. Goes on and on and on that you got six talented women in a lot around smart and you can get in the ring with Charlotte flare. Have a hell of a match. I mean that just says something what we got. And that's just six of the women say so. You have the possibility to something interesting in new for a little while with Charlotte until it gets rolled. Then you have. The next woman. Beater weathered remain when she comes. Back or one of the other girls Beezer and in Charlotte House go back on their own. I mean this is simple it is. It's Harry simple but great match. Probably one of the best matches on the weekend right here. I would say the best that's the best actual match. Yeah a fun house experience or vote. Your flight. So what's next. What was next on the show? I'm trying to do this off memory now and I can't remember owes a Alston Black and Bobby Lashley. Yep Alston black on when when Lana goes. Hey Bobby spear him spear him and then that didn't work he face. Who did he ever side? Note it's really interesting because I sit in here as like because you know what's mania right and you know people have gear made for many or they have special items may for Madiun it's like wonder who all's going to actually wear their special stuff in who's GonNa save it Alastair blackhead stuff made for. This guy is very horny. He had these two giant horns on this like leather shredded leather rogue. That looked like it was decaying. It was ultra cool was super cool but yeah he he just walks out. And there's these two giant horns on his shoulders and you're like okay all right. Go Kuku so you got his win. Bobby Lashley had pants he did have bins. London's Ginger now. She's back toward natural hair color. Yeah no more blonde. She's now like an Auburn Sort of Brunette. But then we had most heartwarming. Moment of the of the night it was Otis versus Dolph. Stigler doff comes down with Sonia villainous corner and they're having a file match right. Nothing crazy it's Otis in ziglar. They're having a bad. It's it's getting involved than she gets involved. One too many times. Ziglar gets kicks wrote US at the balls. One of US gets kicked to the balls outcomes a- diggers got. What are you doing? You're ruining everything? Then she gets in the ring. She goes low on doffs Naegler OTAS gives the Caterpillar off. Otis gets his wrestlemainia win. But more importantly otis gifts girl he picks a picks up Mandy carries around. They cast. He's so pretty. She's pretty. I was very happy. He got the girl. This was probably the weirdest payoff. I mean it was satisfying. Don't get me wrong. But it was so weird. Because they just went ahead and revealed this on smackdown really randomly that Sonia set up Otis and Mandy four Dolf for some unknown reason that I am sure will be revealed later but it was just really sort of bizarre how they did it. And then it's like okay. All right so you had otis one. You had to get the girl you had mandy smack Sony around a little bit. I mean I just. I don't know there's just really strange like it was a good match. It was the most serious that we've seen Otis. I was a little. Sad Tucker. Wasn't there. I really hope. They don't split them up. Though he was injured on for on smackdown which is why even though on the on out there he can stand there and look cute. I mean he was so okay. So this was the one drawback from from no fans the pop that will he owed us. What a guy with he kissed Mandy but huge oh it would have been absolutely massive like just. Yeah it's it's it's sad. It's really sad that we didn't get that but I guess it is what it is at this point but he's still got the girl all that matters he got the girl then in a match the probably sliced about ten minutes off of it and everyone would have been okay. Last man standing headdresses randy were. There was some weird sexual tension going on in this. I mean I just going to throw that out there like there. I feel like at some point. This went from like edge and randy just fighting because randy took out edge and betrayed EDGE TO IF ROMNEY WINS. Edge has to stay with randy but edge wins. He gets to go home with Beth. I don't know that's just what this felt like. It was just weird. There was just some really weird sexual tension going on in this match but I loved this match. Let me tell you why. Tell me why. So the match opens with edge coming out to the arena. It's empty and then they play. Randy's music but randy doesn't come right. He's just he's nowhere to be found in edges around. He's like where is he? Where is he ritzy? I'm sitting here screaming the entire time behind. You Use legit screaming at this. Because I know Randy Orton and sure enough. What happens randy? Orton comes up from behind our Cao's edge out of nowhere except well. Randy's sneaky devil. He was there the whole time. He decided disguise himself as a cameraman. We don't know what happened to the other cameraman. We don't we don't we. I'm hoping he just got paid off and is having a lovely vacation at his house but I her house. I shouldn't say to just be a man could be either or neither But yeah we don't know what happened to the camera person we don't but anyway randy shows up the camera and he takes off this like Hoodie. Thing that he had onto conceals identity and the first thing we see is ready Ordinance Pants and for Second. I freaked out because it's like. Oh my God is randy going to fight in pants which again. It's a context thing. Rainy were wearing pants. Means Shits about to get super real because that man never wears pants on television ever he just walks around in his little man panties all the time if he shows up in pants. You have a problem. Because he couldn't even be bothered to take his pants off to kick your ass. He just took his shirt off and again. It's so real that rare that it's usually he just gets super violent so anyway randy strips right there in the middle of the ring pants. Come off everything's fine. Everything's normal and the to proceed to fight and they proceed to fight all over the PC and we're gonNA talk about the one thing. That has everybody in an uproar. But I think my favorite part of this match was the random. Wwe personnel that were there that inadvertently or advertently ended up in the shots. And also the two cameramen that got taken out in the process or no one camera guy and the other one was chasing them around the PC like wwe known for their high quality production values. One camera guy gets knocked on his ass and he's shooting the ceiling will edge and Randy. You're fighting in front of him in the office space. The other one when that one gets knocked down is running through the arena. A running through the building trying to find them in the back somewhere to catch them fighting. Here's the thing. This was pre taped. They could have cut that part of it. They didn't they left it in intentionally which I love. Then we're in the back right. We're fighting in the back with throwing things at each other. We're in all the equipment everything like that. We get to the backstage interview area. We find it which it stuck way in the back corner. And there's a random camera guy with the with the standard with the stand up camera right adjusting it messing with it. Just casually chillan with his camera. Renae ORDEN EDGECOMB rolling through guys like whatever walks off. There's another guy sitting at a table back behind everything where he's like. Ooh What's going on air like he's watching the fight and he's a little scared because he's like took me. Don't come near me. Don't come near me stay away. Stay away from my tables. I have tables. God I have tables. I think he got run off. At one point when they're at ringside. There's the cord the cord roller girl. That she's trying so hard in so desperately not to be seen on camera and she's like pressed against the wall and she's like Oh God stop shooting me. Please stop shooting me. Don't appear in the shot anymore is like that was the best part is was not even the match itself as the rhythm personnel. That ended up in the shots or affecting the shots like it was just. It was great. So they battled in the arena. They battled backstage in workout area. I wear in order to hanging little bit and everyone in the guy can't believe doing things. Calm down calm down. They intended to be what it was what you think it was intended to be. But I understand why everybody is hyper-sensitive. Everyone was very sensitive about things will be a documentary that up. Yeah so the fighting through the hallways three office areas into the posters. And everything like that. You like this. Bill got need to be scrubbed down. After they're done probably going to get a whole new building so they'll finding everywhere and doing all these different things. One point they get an area with red lighting. Oh my God the female but then they get backstage and then the parking area and then they're finding I think the red lighting was behind the WRESTLEMAINIA. Sign yeah it was or yeah as I said so then. They're finding on the back of someone's pickup truck moves on the back of a pickup trucks. Who are poor pickup truck us? I'm sorry but the love and concern when edge gets dropped headfirst into the back of the pickup truck was so sweet does the rep is like are you okay? Are you all right checking on edge? He's holding his hand. He's making sure he's OK. An ordinance believing Orleans bleeding. No ORDINANCE STARTED. Bleeding edge jumped on him through. The tables was like you see. They're checking on on orange bleeding. You know I spent some spears. Dvd's are Cao's then again on top of a of a semi truck and that's where they end up finding to the end and yeah we had a concerto and the match which was very well acted by edge where he showed the anguish of having to do this to his former best friend like ultimately. He's not ashamed to do it but like He. He did it anyway because he could write because he had to. That was whole. That was the whole point. I haven't early tweeted the week because it is Relevant to this match if I can find it real quick. Yeah so Beth Phoenix. I think either right after this match or during this match tweets out. I'm changing my style. No more ladders. And it's a photo from the match of edge standing on top of a chain link fence like cage slash room slash holding area next to a ladder jumping off of it and onto Randy. Orton UNQUOTE was from edge rated R superstar. That is a good wife right there where she just like. Tam. What you've referencing is the edge special where he goes down. You Never GonNa see me going through flaming tables and barbed wire in thumb tacks that the first match back is lessening signage. Just just saying but yet this was super good. It was a little long. It had some really weird sexual tension throughout it but otherwise it was good is a really good at first batch back for edge again a little side. It wasn't in front of a live crowd. But there's absolutely nothing they can do about that. So on Day. One MOJO won the twenty four seven chippy chip on day. To crank does trust fall onto a bunch of people and get the twenty four seven championship. My Dad brought this up to me. He's like wrong Gronkowski title in WWe. And I'm like yeah. He won the twenty four seven title so line. So what's the best part about? All the sports people have to had a tweet about it like the NFL people which reading better than like sport sports reporters which like Adam. Schefter was tweeting about it. Because it's football related kind of news because former football player Rob Gronkowski won the twenty four seven championship at Wrestlemainia. So Big Deal Adam. Schefter had to report on it. Just say we then had. They're all tied team. Tony Match Street. Prophets introductions versus an agent. Cars solid swallowed a match. The big thing was bianca. Bel Air showing up. Yeah the match itself was fine. The street profits. Were having lots of fun. Finding the camera people missing with the camera people and Zelina Lote Amazing. She had on her gold halo crown with like gold disc gold top that was like filigree and skulls and everything. It was really super cool except got a little head of herself. She tacked Street prophets after they won the match. And well somebody took exception misspell layer. Who'S MARRIED TO MONTAS? Ford took exception came out and basically whooped Selena's but and the the trio stood tall in the street profits and beyond Belair at the end with her aloft on their shoulder. If you haven't seen Kaz months twitter. They had their WRESTLEMAINIA party at home. They're all dressed to the nines and everything is perfect side. No get you someone that looks at you. The way that Montana's Ford looks at Bianca Belair because Holy Shit. When he liked looks up he realizes she there. She's there he's like. Hi It's so cute. It's just so cute. He also knows he's in serious trouble because she's there then Tennyson now the the host because well reasons took off. We told you next parents but as Bailey Sush Maksimir relationship. It's it's fable highway match for the elimination match for the Spectators Championship won. They made immunised. Seemed like she's the biggest deal of all biggest deals because everyone had their finish or high risk maneuver onto. Meena to eliminate her and then they all had to lay on top of her. I felt so bad for her because they just got her out of that match. I think she hit like a few moves. And then they're like yeah by Susan there for comments and then they owe me was going after that was booked on a Sasha Lacy Bailey. They'll last week on on the Thursday show. We talked about how you have to Save Bailey in foster from actually fighting. Because you know there's a big match their and whatever and they didn't really fight in this one because it was a mistaken. Bailey accidentally hit Sasha and you know that caused some tension between the two women and Lacey took advantage of it. She went to to to attack us. Sasha Bailey shove they're all the way but then Bailey shove into than nail. The women's right on stock knocking her out on the ground watched the one two three happen and then bay leaves Bathing Lacy Finding out the final two and Bailey like super uber aggressive and she ties lacy up into with the tag rope in the Corner. And just be on her beyond our eventually. Got Out of it But as we watch this whole beatdown going like Sasha's still on the ground what is Tasha gone onto so as Lacey got control. She did her salute mood. Saw got near fall. She's getting ready to the women's right toss. It comes in backstabber. On icy the Bailey did her finisher and got the win. Sasha's stood by her friend at the end but even now in his celebration. The endless courageous. You just yelling at. You can't beat me. Jbl You can't be me. My nobody can meet beyond the best. Ya Ya. This was a good showcase for Bailey. I think one of the things that I really liked about this was the story that they told where Bailey the whole night is in her own head about Sasha because in the end Bailey no Sasha and Sasha knows Bailey and Sasha knows she can beat Bailey anytime she wants like a Drum Bailey can can return the favor but Bailey. Still Not as confident about it as she would let you believe so they did this really great storytelling the whole time between them. They did this really subtle tension between them where Bailey's nervous because Bailey knows out of everybody in that match. The one person that can meet her is Sasha banks. Now they worked together to appoint when Bailey. Pseudo saves Sasha but then conveniently shove lacy into Sasha knocking her out and getting her eliminated. Well I wouldn't say that was coincidental. I would say that was purpose on purpose. Happenstance if you will Bailey. Got Rid of her biggest threat not to say season. Big Threat Lacy has improved quite a bit. She looked really good in this match. I liked her gear except for her hat. I don't know what was going on there. Please never wear it again But our gear was cute or gear was ultra cute. Everybody look good. Naomi looked like fire She had this little light Whip thing that was a little strange but yeah. Sasha looked on polling liked Bailey. Skier like to meet his gear. Jacket on Bailey was weird though. The jacket on Bailey was weird but yeah like Sasha like Sasha's husband is so talented but the match itself the match was good. I feel bad for to me. I'm sorry I did like. They set her up especially on smackdown to be this bad ass. They're talking about how she is. She's like the wild card since she's like you know you don't know what she's going to do and she's the first one gone and she's gone within the first few minutes of the match so. I have to do like that. You really have to do like that. I mean come on in for her so probably going five six minutes prize long. She can go. Yeah that's true and I and I know that but still it's like y'all y'all come on so yeah this is good. This is really good success to the firefly house which we just recapped then take supermen event for the WWe championship Brooklyn. Drew McIntyre. To say was an afterthought we were watching the show it was an afterthought no snow fence to true or brock. It was we were still. I think enthralled with the firefly funhouse I think everybody was still absorbing it. I think everybody was still coming out of the shock of it and this match was just not long enough to come out of that shock and really react the way that you should. I think some people absolutely did but a lot of other people were like wait. What what just happened. What did I watch weight? Drew one white. Who THROUGH ONE? Four minute match in a four-minute match where Brock Germond and FBI. The crap out of drew drew kept getting up in three claymore. Kicks later and he is your new. Wwe champion it was. It was fine for what it is. As mentioned it needed the crowd the moment neither the crown like they work the match like it would have been in front of the crowd. There was no extra behind the payment tried but there was not enough wall behind it. It was just a match. It was just a quick little rock listener. Fight that in front of a crowd of eight thousand people you could have got behind but with no Kreil. The attraction known sparkler really doesn't work because he's he's intimidating. He gets a crowd riled up here. You couldn't rile up anything. It was just enthroned drew around Andrew Fighting Back and there's no big comeback with the crowd. Just this matchup of the mall neither the crowds to make the finish and it didn't have it but your champion it just felt underwhelming one coming up the firehouse and to. It wasn't long enough to get you away from that moment because the match was four minutes long yeah it was drew absolutely deserved to close. Wrestlemainia and hold the title aloft and celebrate his win. He's worked incredibly hard to get here. He came in he was. He wasn't ready for the opportunity that he'd been given he was shown the door. He went on the indies again. He busted his but he came up with a new character. He worked different promotions until he got. Wbz'S ATTENTION AGAIN. And then he went to an xt reproved himself an annex. T not that he needed to but he did and now he's rose to the criminal crop in in the WWE for raw. This is again like rock said. This is one of the matches at suffer because it didn't have the crowd and while you had drew doing his best to vote and be loud in talk crap. Brock is not. That person is not an actor. Brock is not really. I would even say necessarily a performer. He is a fighter. He's attraction prizefighter. He he shows up. He does his business any lake leaves. He's not necessarily there for talking during a match although he would if he wanted to. He was just there to do his job and leave. And that's that's the character that's what he does and so this match suffered because of it because it was like you said it was all only four minutes long. I had to go back and rewatch this match because I was still so in shock of what had happened previously. That it's like you know that's great that drew on. I'm super happy for drew. He's definitely earned it. But what what the what the F. just happened with Sina embrace and we called that we call bed on Thursday. That were whatever the fun house was going to be. It was going to overshadow anything around it. Anything including the championship match. Because it's just going to be on that side of bizarre that is going to overtake everything else behind it for at least a few matches and I don't WanNa knock drew but I feel like this should have been last. I understand why wasn't Andrew deserves to close the show. This should have gone last just because there was that initial shock that sorta ruined the drew brock match for me. It's my only criticism was it was just. There was so much to process. My brain was like going into overdrive. Smoke was coming out of my ears and all I wanted to do was watch the funhouse. A match began to get everything that I missed the first time. And that's what made watching this final match really really difficult because it's like my brain went one way and it's like no you have to go this white right now. Worry about everything else. Later and for the record I did rewatch at that night after wrestlemanias over But all in all a satisfying wrestlemainia for sure for me. It was very it was very enjoyable night. It was a very tonight's I should say. Do I want Wrestlemainia. Tonight's ever again. No because the experiences Wrestlemainia as day as a whole the thing is what has happened in the last seven years or so is they have felt the need to get everyone on the show. Because I would say in the last three or four years it should be more that six but it was like I went from like four hours like eight matches including a royal battle royal. But it's like you slowly went. We have two brands. We gotta get everyone on. Everyone is a big match. We need to make sure everyone has their fake set. One shining my whip and it. Just STACKS UP THE CAR. Now you because you have two world champions to mid card titles two sets of tags to women's titles so it's like you're already ranking of the matches there and women's tag and then you have you know the big grudge matches that you have to get in that sense so it's like you've already you're starting to add up and that's ten matches there just injected just off. The South Rip starts like what you need to do for us. It means you cut down the matches because back in my day back Monday kids. You had earn your spouse wrestlemainia. Just wasn't that my God. Everyone gets on Wrestlemainia. You have to earn the spot. And that's what they should probably go back to is limiting the amount of matches they have on the show. Get it down to five hours. Everyone can handle five hours seven midnight. Everyone I know. Oh my God is fiber has long. That's enough like you don't need it. You can go for hours like you can get ten matches. I'm for our seat. You did it back in the day with Wrestlemania. Seventeen though the the Wrestlemania everyone love and you've got all the matches in it. Just it worked but because you extended with two hours over pressure with three pre show matches than five five and a half hours rustling so you. Now you're up to seven and a half hours. It's a long day understand it but it's also wrestlemainia. It specialists different people like the fact that you went to days. And you want to days for US mania but then you're now you're unofficially takeaway takeover because you cannot run takeover on any other night so like either your sacrifice exc- takeover Russell many which everyone considers the beggar show in terms of rustling peer. Rustling for two nights wrestlemainia. If that's what you WanNa do then find. Let's go with this format but everyone loves takeover. So what you can't do it the week before it can do with the week after makes them especial. 'cause you're just coming off. Rusmana and they're not gonNA turn it's WWe. They're not GONNA go. Hey a week before. We're doing this big event that going to happen to the week. After we had this big that it's not gonNA happen it's going to be an afterthought so either takeover does not get the Russell meetings week treatment like it has been the last five years or we keep takeover and have a wrestlemainia day and you just cut back a little bit. I mean that's my thoughts. That's my opinions. I would just say I wasn't necessarily a fan of wrestlemainia being onto days. Just because I wanted to see everything and buy everything. I mean the funhouse and the bone yard in one night while you know having the excitement on the Sunday all day Wrestlemainia was cool at the same time. It was a little annoying. Because it's like I really WanNa see what this is going to be because I was so excited after the bone yard match. Whatever this is this is going to be good. I know it's going to be good now. My fears have been assuaged. I'm ready for it. Give it to me. Show it to me wait. I have to wait twenty four hours for it crap. Am I going to be this excited for tomorrow? I don't know I was slobby real. I was but to me. It's like I would just rather get it all done in one day then too. Because here's the thing about the pre show you can take it or leave it. You can watch it. You don't have to watch it. I typically don't sit through all of Wrestlemainia in the first showing 'cause I have to get up and move around so it's like I'll wait for the matches that I'm not as into in all kind of get up and walk around and I'll have it on in the background and I'll hear it or I'll be sitting here and watching it and kind of do something else to distract myself to reset my brain. But I'm still hooked. You're still enthralled you still have you still going on around you and that's what matters that's what counts when it comes to else man's like it's Russell May Day because it's so mania that's it's a one day event. I know new Japan too but new Japan could done one night and it would have been five because they did. They had the same talent work in both days. So that's that's that was pointless but I know they're trying to tell a story or whatever but I don't know I mean if it if we have to do two days now I it's fine but I would just prefer to do takeover on one ninety wrestlemainia on the next just to allow next to shine star. Russell made six. I don't care who early I mean to me. It's like you could reduce the pre show or count. The ratio is officially estimated. Start at six o'clock and go boom. Here's Russell Managed Sixty six eleven. Five hours will think people I think people would be okay with it starting early. I don't think that that matters. Yeah but I mean either way. It's not our decision but wasn't a fan of the two nights because also it's like a head to make sure which right now that is not a problem. Okay let me. Just put that out there. But I had to make sure that I was around and I was ready to go for both nights now when this is over and we are all out to go back out into the world. I can't guarantee that every every year and that's part of the problem it's like I can usually set aside a Sunday night and be like okay. This is Wrestlemainia for me. I'm going to do nothing but watch wrestling all day. And I can occasionally get away with takeover where I do takeover mania back to back. But it's like sometimes it's not always guaranteed with me so it's like I don't want to nights wrestlemainia but can't guarantee unite. Because here's the thing me. It's like okay for Russell. Yuki cured up. You're GonNa say oh probably order something. Cool like a nice meal for us. Amanda have your meals. Yeah Kid do that two nights ago. Yeah as I was conflicted because I usually do barbecue. Wrestlemanias like crap. What do I do for Saturday night? I have nothing for Saturday night. So yeah I mean it. It's stupid reasons like that at least for us If you were a fan with the with the two nights. There's nothing wrong with that like I said I can do two nights if I had to like if they make the determination. Hey the show is just too big for one split it too big for just what night or they feel like. They can get more money by selling. Tonight's thing go ahead sell it. Do It do what you feel you have to do but for me. I wasn't particularly fond of it but it wasn't a dealbreaker for mayor as like. Oh my God. This is terrible But yeah definitely would have liked to have seen the two cinematic matches in the same night that being said I kind of want my my all my wrestling in the Senate matic setting now. I know that way more work but God damn it was so good. Well then you'll like the K. Project girls apply on. Because that's going to be all cinemax type thing so maybe they'll be up your alley. Maybe we'll have to see but yeah. I thoroughly enjoyed how they did. The funhouse match how they did the bone yard match everything else in front of the cameras and not the live crowd in the PC was fine. It was weird I am but they warned us and we knew it was going to be weird but I don't think mania was necessarily diminished. Because it didn't have a live crowd. Melvin like it hurt it because you don't get the reactions and you don't get a chance and you don't get the rocket snus but it was still mania. It was still good. It's still six and a half hours pause of yeah and that was that's entirely what it was intended to be was escape like you had. Stephanie McMahon get both nights in enter the show. Basically be like we are happy and proud to do this and we hope you enjoy it and I have to say thank you. I did enjoy it. I enjoy thoroughly. So yeah and that makes great point. We all needed it. We all needed the escape to get away for two days. This was great because it gave I know for me. It gave me something to look forward to. Now it's like FRAPP. I have nothing to look forward to accept my birthday which will probably be at home because nothing will be open. But that's okay. We'll make it special somehow sonal Saturday by the way I know so trust me. I know when your birthday is because your birthday and my birthday on the same days does that mean we can be noxious on your birthday. I have to do a CB radio my birthday job but don't don't start with them. That's still start with them yet. Rob Anyway we got some planning to do couple housekeeping notes. Abo at five and eleven or if ww two K. One five eleven eight Boeing seven. At night I went eleven. Seven thirteen and five gummy. But I think that's four and a half hours of wrestlemainia recap on the. It was a long show but it was well worth it guys. Hope you enjoyed it. I hope you had fun Again I would like to extend my thanks to. Wwe To everybody on the roster to everybody in their production apartment to their video production department everybody outside of wwe that contributed thank you so much for doing the show. It was well worth it. It was a wonderful escape. Keep keep going if you can. Which I think they're going to keep going. We'll have to see and we're GonNa talk about that Thursday on the rack right rock. Well all the news you can handle tweet of the week and it's T- RECAP NFC rundown because you've got Jenner gone to muscle in an empty arena match in. You have six women battling for the number one contender ship for the world championship. Eleven match before we go. Who you gotta Johnny Tomasso. Who'S GONNA win? Who'S GONNA win? The WHO's going to end. It will be John Air Tomato. I want Moscow to back. I don't think you will burn title-match who's GonNa win Johnny Tomato. Who's going to end the feud Johnny Tomasso? I don't know I feel like maybe Johnny. I'm digging Johnny ends it the giants and then in the women's match it's Teague Inox Chelsea Green Mia the Cobra Kai Yoshimura. And I'm missing another person in the massive. I can't think of so. He goes to the annex t twitter. Hold on stall stalling. Oh by the way you can listen to us. Live Thursday ten PM eastern records show on facebook twitter and instagram? Yeah we're also podcast Google. Podcast you name it were there can this. That's the other one. God How can you forget candice anyway who you got in that match? Who's winning? Who's number one contender? Oh Shit I want candice. Candice deserves a shot kindergarten. Charlotte I mean. I wouldn't complain. I WanNa Complain. I give Gimme Oh and Charlotte vehicle that because that Saturday night midnight. This seat DOT com rather great debate dot com. So if they WANNA talk on an Easter Sunday they'll talk about wrestling on these Russell Talkradio ten. 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What Fox is going to try to do with the virtual craft could actually be interesting. I'm curious to see it I'm curious to see how it works. It's going to be for the Fox. Games so Sarah on Saturdays that they're gonNA. Show isn't right. Some of the Games are going to have like audio from be the show the video game the crowd noise to give it a more. Authentic feel smart, so doesn't. It's not dead silence. Yeah, because you need. You need noise unique crowd noise at a baseball game in football game in and basketball. European football soccer whatever you WANNA. Call it. Moxie all the things you need any noise at all the things and at the virtual crowd working then do it for smackdown thing also it's baseball season so I gave season randomly. Like you. obeys wells back. Let's kick it off. Let sued, but when I here talk about baseball or football or football, we are here to Tom Wrestling and y'all we're gonNA switch format up a little bit. We are going to open with extreme rules, because no, no, no, no, no, it's the horror show at extremo's. We're not calling that thing a horror show because it was not a horror show. What has what was promised? It was a horror show for other reasons, but it is not a horror shows what was promised, so it is extreme rules. That is what it is called because that's about all I got to. So we're GONNA, talk about that person. Then we're going to do news notes exte- tweeted week all that stuff on the back half of the show. We get to extreme. Well. Not Too, kinky extreme does that count, are you? There were chains and snakes. GO OUT NHS no alligators. There was a snake. There's some. Stuff going on there. Anyway. We're GONNA. Talk about it. We'll get. We'll get into it. The. It's the thing, so let's get into extreme rules. over embassy films youtubecom such BG twelve eleven. I. Don't even know where to start with his show. I think I want to start with the overall in Prussian of the show. What was your overall impression of the show I? Don't think this was a bad show i. just wanted and you don't read the Internet. You're right. I don't. I tend to ignore the Internet. Labor proclaiming. Of all time. This was not a bad show. A it was not. It was not the best show I've ever seen. It kind of was I'm going to say it was underwhelming it left. You generally underwhelmed especially for some of the stuff that was promised on the show I. Think Expectations were very high considering what they had said they were going to do, and are they really going to go there? And how are they going to do this? Like there were a lot of unknowns going into this show for the two top matches, which was the eye for an eye match. The White Swan match. And one delivered in one didn't essentially and both kind of like left I think a lot of people feeling underwhelmed and just not satisfied. You didn't get that satisfying conclusion that you desperately wanted from those matches. and. I think that's where a lot of people are like slamming this painting this as the matches itself refine. The wrestling was fine, but some of the finishes especially were really screwy, and there was a lot of just going to say. There's a lot of fuck ary in the finishes of these matches and I think that turn people well. Stuff has worked. Some of some of it was just weird. Some did not come off well, so I think I i. think the nicest way. Way I can say is that it was just generally underwhelming and unsatisfying the beyond that like the wrestling. This fine you know, the presentation of certain things are really good. A really well done certain other things were not well done, and yeah. It was just it was there. It was a thing it was not the best thing I've ever seen. So. Can we talk about your favorite thing? The show I just get to scream about it now. I've held it in for four days. Depends on where you think I'm going with this. I know you're not going where I want you to go with this. Nope I'm going to go with the US title. Enhancement Fair thing on the show, okay? All due respect, if Apollo crews was not there and not wrestling, hopefully, he's okay, and there's nothing plague-related going on there. Why? Why was this done on the show? This left me really really confused. I understand that they had to fill time, but it made no sense if he was not there in the match was never going to happen why this couldn't have been announced on the pre show, or you didn't have somebody else challenge in ep or you didn't do something else. It just doesn't make a lot of sense why they did it. They did essentially what happened. Is MVP and Lashley came out with the title? Crews wasn't there and so crews forfeits do not being there and MVP claims himself the US champion and he leaves with the title it okay, so apology crews doesn't take a loss I'm not opposed to this. This is fine, so the title is technically still his. Even though MVP's walking around with it. This just kind of felt like a waste of time. This was one of those things where it's like why. What? What was the point of that? You could easily announced set Apollo crews wasn't there and that was done. Especially since I think you in, you interviewed Lashley for sure on the pre show. I think they interviewed MVP to, didn't they? Could have easily just done that on the pre show, and it would have been fine, but okay all right. That's the thing that happened all respect again I just I i. don't know it just felt really displaced felt really just odd. It's like why why. Bother with that I don't know because they had a fill time in. Get the angle moving forward. I don't know it. It was like Oh, he's coming off the match and then just rocks and walked out and it's like. Could have done it backstage but I guess the. Yeah, it just. It was weird. It was weird. Okay, so we will with your favorite quotations. Smooth right. Let's talk about the most shocking moment of the night. We have new tag team champions. Yeah, we do since knock more and Cicero beat the new day. What I find really interesting about this is that there were a bunch of people who really unhappy about this and I'm not entirely sure why this is. The people who are always like Oh, let's push them. They push our weight. You took the belts off a new day, well it. Yeah, they're like team. Slapped together or whatever they're calling them or teammate card or whatever has aro. They're like. Oh, they gave new titles. Why would you give them to titles the because they've earned them because they're taking them off of new day because you want. To look like bosses like I'm not entirely sure why you're complaining about. Chances are having the titles especially since they essentially straight up folded, Kofi Kingston in half through table. Kosovar just like a boss serves on hitting a strong balance. They really good, so I enjoyed this match I thought this was good. I'm really happy. That says Ro Insurance Guy had the titles, 'cause you know what that's going to move the time division forward in the right direction, and I am here for that so on up down down and they played on our. CAESAROPAPISM would spice so on the Wednesday episode of WHO This Week you had. says, Ro pull out his championship to mock woods with like. It's pouring on scissor shoulder. And Woods was pissed 'cause I took new days belts. Well you know what needs to come back in a events boys when he will when he can't, he will pour woods though he they were doing livestream today in his computer like crash and he lost everything. That's like doing gm mode and lost everything apparently. Bats are. That does suck pass. Are you detecting champions, the probably not gonNA have a long run it'll be. Getting about self new day making them chase. All right. Let's talk about I for and I. Go all right some GOITER disclaimer this. My opinion of this match has nothing to do with the actual physical wrestling portion of this match. That was fine up until the finish of this match. This was actually pretty good. They were beating each other up. I'm not entirely sure why you would bring pliers to an removing an eyeball match because I feel like a melon baler would be much more effective, but. I still say Nice v two big. You'd have a hard time like going soccer smaller ones that you can use. As low curve to it. You could scuba right out spoon. With like a curvature to at that, you could just pop it in and get like one of those special things like cake, ice or new disco. Private right out anyway says showed up with pliers. They did the match. The match portion of this was fine. Here's here's my issue with this and I have to take my classes. Offer this because I'M GONNA face. Paul Bunch in this the finish to this match, so the whole idea of this is that you're supposed to take somebody's eyeball out right? Which Seth is already done supposedly on the wine. He injured the. He did not take it out. He injured they are, but he blinded the I there was blood. There was everything else when they did it the first time. Let, saw stipulate that second around. Seth basically does the repeat. He gets ray on the steps rate, and this is after Ray has revealed that the I that seth injured is fine. He rips his little bug eye mask cover thing off and boom. He can see it's miracle. and seth grabs ray proceeds to take the newly revealed, healed a and shove it into the stairs, which okay. All Right and ray screaming and everything like that. And the doctor like race screaming in Seth I think either pulls him up right gets up because he's got face over his hands over his face like covering his eye, doctors come running in dominant comes running in race. Raise laying there with his face. They've got a towel. They're they're trying to. DAB is phase for the two drops of blood that showed up in this and the only indication and I don't know if anybody else saw it. Because there apparently was a fake eyeball, I did not see it until rock freeze framed it or somebody freeze framed it and put it out on twitter. The only indication that we really had other than Ray screaming with Samoa Joe deadpan going it's out. You didn't cut to Seth puking at ringside for this and looking remorseful, which led to him on raw, basically being like this is all race fall being typical, he'll all right if you're going to promise to take somebody's eye out, even Kobe world and in a world where everything can be pre shot. I feel like they did this match a disservice. Disservice because apparently there was something shot where there was blood, and that explain sess puking, because apparently it was very gory and everything like that and supposedly Vince hated it, and it never aired, but they went with what they went with any way, and then they still had says Puke, which made no sense again in a world where you can predate, and you can pre shoot, and you can do things, and you can pause and you can. Doctor and everything else right in this this wonderful magical world that they're in right now. Can you not at least put blood on the stairs? I think that was my biggest problem. Is You had two drops of blood unlike raise mask? That were I. Think we're genuine. Just from the match I think he got like cut up, or he got danger, cut or something on his face, and it came through his mask, but if you're going to go to the trouble of having fake eyeball of having him cradle a fake eyeball to his face. Of. Doing everything that you're doing you can at least have a little blood or something on the stairs to indicate, this is where it went into his face also. Does based on the angle, and I am not an expert, but given that eyeballs or soft and squishy, and you put a corner into it I believe it would actually crush the Ibom back into the skull versus popping out, but it could be entirely wrong on that I don't know how that actually works at the very least, I think it would actually just crush the Bible. Based on the angle and everything how he was being pushed down, but I think that was my biggest issue with it because it's like it happened in. You're sitting there and you're like. Wait. Wait. That's it. That's how they're going to do this. It's like you know there's not going to be any blood to this. which whatsoever which you know, there should be right like that's the thing. At the very least you know. There should be blood right because it's an injury. It's an. An injury to the face. It's an entry to your head. There's a lot of blood vessels. There's a lot of veins. There's a lot of things going on in your face. You're going to bleed. I feel that again. This was a disservice I understand now that this is they had something shot in. It got scrapped, so this was the make up for it, but I still feel like somebody could have done a five minute. Google search on what happens when you lose an eyeball. And they could have reacted accordingly. We hear the rock. Do not recommend Yooglie what would happen out on how to lose an eyeball unless you're interested in that kind of. Thing I knew saying though it's like even even do the proper research nobre. You had like fifty people. Just don't put it in chat. You have like fifty people at Ringside. The stairs were blocked for good like minute to two minutes. You could have very easily. Had somebody take like a wash cloth, or a pete or piece of fabric, or even to sprinkle like? Throw little blood on the stairs? Throw little on Ray, not saying how to be like gushing out of his face. Right like horror show even though that's what this was called. You know over the top blood right like he doesn't have to be bleeding to death, but enough there that it's like indicates. He severely injured because from watching this. That's not what I got. And they may. Go On for Brennan you know W W doesn't do blood and guts wrestling like other people you know. They just have set hurled spooking. That blood and guts wrestling which okay. That leads me to my next point which we talked about this on Monday but I. don't like the continuity error I can almost deal with puking, but here's my thing suggested it once in quotations, and it didn't bother him. He didn't get sick. He didn't show any remorse. He didn't really care. He rebelled in. It was the whole crux to getting to this point right, so seth does it again. He blinds ray mysterious again. This time he gets sick this time. He's actively throwing up at ringside, which is not sanitary at all. I hope they really really clean ringside after that. which they should have after this match anyway, but my biggest problem is you had him show remorse for like a split second. You had him show a conscience which no, I'm sorry now I understand. He's trying to be human but no. If you did it once, and he has actively tried to blind humber Correo allaster black dominic in the process of getting here like actively tried to do it and do it again today by the way and then he actually does it in the match. It's like no. There should be no remorse here because he's he's. He's done this. This is a pattern. This is the thing and I feel like. There was a really huge missed opportunity to take. Seth rollins to the whole next level with what he was. was He's currently doing like a whole other level in terms of just him, being diabolical and him being evil and him being he'll just just take him. Take him that next step, and instead I feel like what that did is they did what they always do. Kind of Seth were as they get into a point, and then they they cut his balls off, and he kind of goes back to being this sort of spineless dick he'll. It's going really strong up until that, and then for me, it's like. No! We're not going to have you be bad ass. We're just GONNA. Cut You off right here so I just it to be. It feels like a missed opportunity in terms of like storytelling, but we'll have to see where this goes, but I feel like seth is really like come into what he's doing, and he could really take it to that next level. But what were your thoughts on that? I'm sorry? I was underwhelmed by the Finnish. I sat here. Watching them with good all right. We're violent, but. Then the finished happened in the apologists here's. That's it one more as every all the points you just mentioned. I want more violence I wanted more blood and guts as it were. That's that's my general reaction to it. I can't really get excited over right mysterious matches at this stage. The, mattress happened. We all know the finish was going to be weird to begin with you. Do not get the facts that we were promised debutantes. Yeah I mean again. It's I still ask the question. Why are they doing? Something called a horror show in July. I feel like you could have shaped save that for October and it would have been fine i. get that things are very weird right now, and you don't know what is going to happen in October if you're going to have fans or not, if you're going to be on the road. Road or not like how this is all GonNa play out, but it was weird. One before we move onto the other stuff that you are calling this the horror show and really there were only two matches on this car. That kind of defined horror. It was the eye for an eye. Was the White Swan fight? Really even the I for an I didn't live up to the moniker of horror. Everything else was just regular. Everything else was just normal late. There was no added violence. There was no nothing it was just all there and it felt very out of place. I feel like if you're going to go to the trouble of calling it, the horror show at extreme rules than commit to that shit, every match should have a level of. I hate. Keep using the word horror, but. Something that is like violent or disturbing or something. It should have been taken to the extreme. Yeah. It just wasn't but the best wrestling on this on this night. Came from the women because they're too good. Women's tunnel matches on this show. Were Bailey and Nikki. Crossgar I love this. I love everything about this so much I I want Nikki to get more tidal shots because I'm here for this. She's adorable. She's amazing. I felt really bad when she lost, but it was so good. This was I think this was the kickoff or the. No, this was the second match in. Came right after the titles and yeah, this was this was so good. This is just I love her Nikki Solo, entertaining like the call back from the. smackdown with the apron spots, and she went all underneath the ring to get to the other side of bailout chase over there. I thought this was really good. Where there are some interesting things at the end in house retained entire. I guess what he'll be heels. As is the best way to put at, he'll be heels. It's a gimmick that's been working for its gimmick. It's been working for Sasha where they do some heel tactics. They get the job done, and they got the job though on this night for Bailey. was able to retain her title and I can watch daily. Nikki Russell Shaw time because it's really good, because especially right now and I said this Sunday. Niki crosses doing some of her best work with the crowd she is. She really really is I. Like how she's coming to her own. How she's evolved the character from what it was insanity to. She is with Alexa. They're really good pairing. I like how they haven't broken them up. There where we go in six weeks well, that was a pattern, but yeah, I'm I'm really happy that they're still together. They're still thing. 'cause they. They add something to each other So that's that's yeah. I'm here for this. Sasha banks and Oscar okay I have one not including finish issue with this match. Because it got weird at the end where Sasha to Sasha fell weird, she took a boob weird off the term buckle, and then she got up on the second rope, and she fell, and after she fell the tiny on this, at least to me felt off, because it felt like they were rushing and I. Don't know if they were rushing because they were worried Sasha had heard herself I. Don't know if. If, that's what the finish was actually supposed to look like or I. Don't know if they were like. We're short for time, so just beat it the hell up like I. Don't know what was going on there. But there at the end of the match. It just felt really off an really weird to me up until the the match was that match was absolutely fantastic, and it was good after up until the finish, but yeah I. Just I won't complain about that, but the finish. Okay I love the. The finish was good. The finish was creative. It just was like after one SG refinish after another. Because I think this had just this came like right after I for an eye in the show. It was like what the hail were. The finish was essentially that Oscar does the mist of doom to the referee. He gets blinded so Bailey Strips. The referee puts on his shirt. one-two-three Sasha's your new role women's champion. She's now Sasha to belts which we're all sitting here and it's like that's not legal. That's so not legal. That's not going to stand, and then you sit here and you go. Rod Isn't having authority figure. SMACKDOWN doesn't have an authority figure. There's only one show that has one and I don't think I don't think William. Regal's power extends to raw, but we could probably find out and we did Monday. It does not Stephanie stepped in, and they're going with the way that they're going, but It was just it was jarring. If that pulls you out of that disbelief that you're like, wait a minute. No, no, that's no. That's not how that works along. The overbook finishes all lands. This is one of the more creative overbooked finishes that actually made sense and took you to a point of the story. Could it good you clean finish, yeah! Could you have Austin clearly beat Sasha go from there? Yeah, could Sasha one cleanly. Yeah, gotTA cheap way. Yeah, or if you're not ready to take off. Aska, you don't want to really be champion that, but the heel gimmick is working. And overbook finish like this for this night work. Absolutely I thought it was I thought it was well done I thought, and even it was a last minute decision to go in this direction. I, it worked People were mad because people take away too seriously, and then you know. But I just I if you hearken back to the attitude era, and all the overbook finishes. That came from that error. Fit Right. I mean it would have it really would have. Well the screw, even Mr mcbain finishes with with Steve Austin and dude. Love is in and the rocks, and all this screwy finishes with Out there. We all do wasn't real. We all knew she wasn't champion. You buy into the story, you you you. To Go with what they're telling you. You believe in what they're doing and works. It totally works yeah I mean it absolutely got the story to the next point, which was Monday night where Steffi met fans like and no, that's not gonNA happen. We're going to do a rematch to determine. Who's the actual women's champion? which again I don't hundred percent agree with? Because it's like technically Oscar did not lose, and technically Sasha did not win, but Oscar didn't win either, but she should get her title back. She didn't lose her title. Win It. The mattress gets thrown out, so it should all just refer back, but they're going this way. That's fine. It's whatever that's how my brain logically adds. That up is if the match gets around as if it never happened then, technically Oscar should just get her title back, but we the match next week I will take Sasha and Oscar all day long twice on Sunday. The one way extreme rules. Yup Ziegler said history would be. He would be allowed to compete under extreme rules, and the title could change hands on disqualification or count, for if drew McIntyre where to comes up disqualified or counted out my wasn't. It falls count anywhere because he wanted the out. You should have made false candidate where. A one-way falls can work, but they did not do that. They kept it as. The met with fine. It's drew McIntyre. Dobbs like good match. It was a good wrestling match could had some pilots into it but you. We all knew drew McIntyre was GONNA win. He did and now office begging for another title show. That's where we're at. Though. That's I was okay. I wasn't thrilled with it. It was just in a matter in the Sea of matches at was Sunday night, which there weren't a ton of matches, they had actually cut back a lot on. How much was on the show? Which I light because that gave everybody more time to do what they were going to do on the show. this match of gets lost in the shuffle for me like I. Don't really have a lot of of this match. It was just Kinda there for me. It was. It was a dramatic entire dowse. Extreme rules match. It was solid, good wrestling. there. It's everything you see you on Monday night. I yeah. There was. There was nothing that stood out for mainly because doppler has no credibility as a number one contender quiz, he doesn't win matches. He just begs for opportunity should have been me. Over new Renault Reagan, but let's get to the thing. We Really WanNa talk about the Wyatt. Swamp fight, though Kevin, Owens and Murphy on the pre K.. Kevin one on the preacher. He was good match. Though the Universal Chevy. Broader versus Bray Wyatt not tunnel. Why have swamped? Go I feel like I got entirely screwed and let me explain why. So four. What four years I think that's how long he was doing the swamp gimmick three or four years. Something like that on the main roster. You're telling me. We could have had braised room of requirement essentially where he indoctrinates and torture's. With snakes, we could have seen that never got. It could have seen just the general like fuck. ARY that goes on out at the compound. Never got that just everything like this version of the swamp leader Bray. Wyatt is everything I've ever wanted for it and more and I'm really sad. I'm never going to see it again. Because Holy Shit but we're was this. Three years ago. Why did they not make him? Look this bad ass three years ago. I'm really sad about that. Because Damn so this match hold on for. One thing we need to talk about I. The funhouse BEF- during the middle of the show Oh yeah, yeah, the Teaser, so necker Mansor Bray Mad scientist gray with his hair fluffed. An eye shadow and everything under is is basically does a teaser for the white swamp fight. It's like old. Nineteen Thirties Frankenstein style. Look to it and he's cutting his promo about the match and everything like that and he's like we're going to go the scariest footage of the night. And they cut to the Karaoke segment and you come back to brain. He's like God. Damnit, rabbit further able to take a shot. Themselves is a good thing and he's like I. See what you did there. I see what you do realizes the cameras back on him, and he's like Spooky And it goes back to the black and white and everything, and he goes back into it, so yeah, that was really good. That was really funny. And then during the match itself it cut to that version of Bray as a cheerleader I was past that which I need that as a reaction gift for everything in my life by the way so somebody could get that on all the social media so I can use it. That would be great, so this match opens and there were a lot of references in this mash that we have not taken apart we didn't i. I didn't get a chance to go back and rewatch it. 'cause I've just been really really busy with work this week so I want to go back and we watch this I want to catch every reference that I missed because there was a lot in there. This match opens with Bray sitting in the middle of a road, waiting for Brandon Rolla which he does. Brown rose up Ray, sitting in a chair, waiting for him. He's laughing. He's rocking in it in his broncos to hit him. Brave vanishes, and then brown gets attacked by fake, Luke Harper and fake Eric grown. Part. biglou carpet. Fake looker! TASTIC! I was like Oh. My God y'all did him so wrong. The so mean like I get. You can't get him but Dan. That's cruel. We're GONNA. Get to that man's. We're going to get to that. We're GONNA. Talk about that and then then Bronx attacked and he can't believe his eyes. He's seeing a ghost. He doesn't know what's going on because standing over him. Him is himself the black sheep of the white family, and he proceeds to take shovel to himself and knock himself out and when Brian comes to, he's in Braise Room of requirement is indoctrination and torture room and Braun. Is this Marie? Get really really kinky guys. Braun is chained legit to a chair to the rocking chair and break comes in, and they exchange words the. If we get to that. Full on. Enter interests. Yeah, we got the full on entrance. He did not carry his own head in. Old Land I was. I was really curious how that was going to work if he's going to carry his own head or not. But he comes in. He does the entrance. We get to hear the Marcos or fame one more time, and then he starts to top Braun he he yells, and he talks abroad, and he weaves his spell, overbroad abroad and bronze, trying to shake him off, and he can't do it and he can't do it, and then we get into the actual torture where. Basically Braun era, sorry bray, and a real life version of sister, Abigail or Abbie, the puppet because there was actually callback, Saul the puppets in this shop snake, and they proceed to have Braun get bit by the snake which flashes him to the next part where he beating people, he's beating up fake Luke Harper and a guy that looks like Dominic Jackovic. He likes him on fire, and then he hears a voice calling to him, whispering him to him luring him. A siren come home, Braun come home, and we look, and we see a ghostly figure draped in black on the dock, and she lifts her veil, and it's Alexa, bliss. Oh my God strap. No. Okay! She's not technically sister Abigail. She's an apparition that has meant to top Bron now. I must say it be cool to see Alexa bliss a sister Abigail, but she's more of their calling back to the little big storyline that sort of help to pull braun out of the white family I think originally because he had just left the family when that happened, it turned from being a just a pile monster monster with the personality. Yeah! It kind of started him on this path made a movie. Yeah and so she's kind of that temptation for to lure him in. And then we get the boat. With the pond, and I'm screaming at the top of my longs for the love of God, keep Ray away from water. It was. God Yeah. Has a wonderful yeah. And so Braun knocks bray the to fight and brought into the boat and pushes the boat away. Anything sees one. Book comes back. And it's empty. And bronze confused and he's looking around. And this was the best part of this whole fight and I. Think pissed a lot of people off. is they flashed the bottom of the paper? The the ending graphic for the pit perfume at the bottom right at this point in the match. 'cause everybody was like what the help. As disturbing knocked him into the back into the water like. It's over. And we both here going way. It's it is like no, that's not that's not. That's Annette. 'cause break comes back out of the water. And then we have the baptism gone wrong because they fight in the water and they they're fighting and everything. So what happened was Brady reached up grabbed with the memo. Call the Brigham and water. And then. It's the water searched bubbling. And it turns red. And out comes the faint. So? This was not an ad. Says was the story. This was the next chapter in the story. Have now leads to the return of the scene. We have not seen. Since WRESTLEMAINIA. where he put away Johnson, it's been that long since fifteen. And we all knew this was going. We all knew the fiend was coming. For Brown show him to recapture what was his? And that's what this led to. Some people like this. Some people thought this was stupid. I enjoyed it I thought it was really good. A lot of people were comparing this to the firefly funhouse match, which I think that that obviously had set the bar for the cinematic matches for Bray. This was on on that level, and the reason why this was not on that level is this is the next part in an ongoing continuing story, so it's not going to have that same finality. John Cena match had because John? CENA matches a one and done. That's like a thirty minute thirty to forty five minute experience fifteen runs, it felt longer the but the Boehner Western ones. Yeah, but this was basically brain bronner GonNa meet your having swamp. Brave fight. Braun, and they did him wrong at the end. Kasparov can't get. It could get it done. So the fiend shows up in place. A swamp ray puts him back in the grave and takes out Braun Strowman, and that is the end of that now. We'll have to see tomorrow where this leads. Do because we haven't heard or seen bronze German since this happened. Nobody knows where he is. Nobody knows what's going on with him. So I'm sure we will get that continuation of the story next 'cause whatever supposed to happen bronze supposed to come back in some sort of form whether it's the monstrous form whether it's whatever to attack Rewi, but he should not be the same whenever he. He comes back or whatever form he comes back in. He should not just be the happy go. Lucky monster that he was, he should be impacted or changed or scarred or something. Because of what happened in this match I would hope that anyway I think they will do that because they've been steadily doing but on its own. I really liked this. I really enjoyed it like I. said this. Just this made me really sad at the same time because it's like I look back at all. The feuds swamp. Bryant had and I'm like this could have been a thing the entire. Entire time and we didn't have it because I I- legit and wondering was brought special, because that's where my brain goes, and bray was just like torturing him with snakes and Shit, and like the ghosts of his past and his decisions, or was this everybody because it's like did 'cause you know everybody tends to forget. I don't pray white kidnapped the undertaker. So you're telling me we could have had this happened to the undertaker and we never saw it. I really upset about it happened Kane twice. You're telling me again. We could have seen that didn't happen Dana. Brian, you know the list. List goes John seen the first time the list goes on and on and on and on and on of all the feuds he had while he was swamped. Very Wyatt and we never never saw any of it and I. Get it. They don't have time. They can't do it as PG whatever but I'm just I'm very sad because it's like this could have been the swamp character, the whole horse run I could have taken him the seriously. They could have made him. Look this bad ass, and they just they just didn't so. I'm happy that like because this was by whites vision. That this version of the swamp leader got to be seen, that got to be heard that he got to do this because I feel like they finally did him justice after after all these years I yeah, I'm picturing a cinematic undertaker Bray Wyatt match La-. Manson I cry because we'll never get it. I I would love to see Bray Wyatt psychologically undertaker part because there's a lot there that he could use and have the undertaker back to. But that's another discussion for another day, but I enjoyed this match I thought it was I thought it was good like I said I. WanNa go back and watch all the all the references and pick up on everything because there was the R-, a lot of call backs to the original family to what he's been doing to other things very similar to what the firefly funhouse was, but it's different and I liked that it was different, but we're. What were your thoughts I, I thought it was different. I thought it was progress. The story and to credit was. Swamp right who pulled him in? And then the theme appeared I know, but I'm just making that point made clear. It's not swampy. That finished the match. That's my thing. It's like he was already in the process of becoming the fiend. When When he tells Brennan, so technically swamp race still doesn't get it done, but he does get it done i. will say that is the freaky Est. I've ever seen the fiend. Look is him coming up out of that water with the red in the water like they had used like red lighting and fog, and everything in the fiend comes up out of the water and he just you see him. Him come up from behind this like doc, and that's just like they did this extreme close up on him, and it's dark and is just over Shit. That's just spooky. Because all you can see is like he see the mask. And then you get a close enough shot bray that you can actually see like his mouth under the theme mask, so you see essentially see like this black hole. Phen-? Kinda freaky it was it was weird. But cool. The pictures they were putting out of it was good to. Durable Ifo I, I will take more will I will definitely. Take Wireless. Couple of housekeeping things we both went for into the eight ball. One four, one the wheel of fund, the magical wheel I went two and three. We beat the an inanimate objects we. Go US I think that's our coverage of extreme rules I think that's our coverage of extreme rules ready. We're going to take a break and when we come back, we're going to be doing news notes exte- and tweet of the week, so you don't WanNa miss that it'll seem the record here on talk. Radio DOT COM and we will be right back. Are you following us on twitter dot TV slash W. tr live. Do you have any was on prime? 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Some of the biggest news outside of extreme rules is that slimmer bursary happened on Saturday and just a few notable people that we know in love showed up on that show, which was not a surprise, because several people had already been teased. Gallison Anderson. Dropped the news that morning that they had signed with impact, but we had some other wwe people show up including he slater E C three curt. Hawkins which was on the Car Hawkins was impact now some Serie. He was still there and eat wide on impact. No, he's also over challenge for the World Oh so quite white. The bunch there he slater in Galveston Anderson ably signed with impact wrestling EC. Three has not supposedly. That's what he's saying, but I think him and e y have an agreement with them to do something, and then I think Curt Hawkins is an unknown or get. He signed I think. Three's prize agreement. He wise probably sign he slater's. Signing a gallon, Galveston members are have signed. To you do sal dairy congratulations to them best of luck to them as they move forward, speaking of impact bound for glory was announced. It's happening October twenty four guys. Look forward to that. Progress and since we have no no real good transition other than you know impact step forward. Unfortunately Chris Jericho took a step back his his wild time crews. I don't even know what to call it. The triple winning the triple whammy Christo Rocket Raider, though schedules were a temporary. February of this year has been pushed to October of two thousand, eight, twenty one. Yes so upcoming. So everybody if you were supposed beyond that if you had any type of affiliation with that, we don't have any information on refunds or Anything like that so I would just say stay tuned to, either if there's a website, check the website or check crispus twitter. 'cause I'm sure he'll tweet some that something about it. If you want a refund, probably get them just. Tweaker SURCO PRAGNELL information. And last, but certainly not least wwe has teamed with war gaming for world of tanks. Or we're going to have wwe superstar theme tanks that fight each other. It's interesting. Just, doing it for night. I, Yeah I. WAS GONNA say I want to run around. Is WWe superstar Can we make this happen? EPIC W W? We please you know. Just I. have several people that would make fantastic for night. Characters just sing. Anyway in one of those people, they kind of already have skin former cups conform would be taker, and we just happened to get to talk about the entertainer on the show with makes me Super Happy 'cause I always love to talk about why the undertaker in the same show, but we got, and it was way too short. I'm just GONNA. Go ahead and say that right now upfront. We got a six episode. Of the undertaker series, which was basically some of the unusable footage or footage that just didn't go into the DOCU series. we got a thirty minute twenty minute twenty minute essentially like many. Many show which I'll take of the undertaker telling stories telling his stories that didn't make it into the DOCU series. And we had animations to illustrate what he's talking about and it was also. Narrated by Timothy Elephant. I'm just going to say this. Because like I said it was way too short I want storytime with Mark Calloway. Footage I want the outtakes I. Want like everything from that serious. It's not an outtake reel. There were no outtakes is mainly S- really sad that there's no outtakes? It's just the undertaker telling stories so one of the stories he tells his about egg man, and how he thought he was going to be egg man, instead of the undertaker, which he kinda told him. Don't go podcast. Another one was some really good road. Stories were like he set Yokozunas hair on fire, and he in the Godfather get in a fight about a hat, which up with undertaker, putting his head through the door, which is a common occurrence, apparently apparently and he hugs like. Through the door off the balcony. Oh, yeah, that's a news story. We didn't mention. The chat. You're grumpy, old man. Yeah, he's A. He's a renegade run game. A game takers on Tick Tock y'all. Don't even know. What is life when he for him to get into which channel I really waiting for that? Now I'm like just it's GonNa Happen. He didn't. They're going to get a twist. He's he's going to get a youtube. I WANNA. See Him in Michelle. Do do the renegade on. Tire no nets Ole. Breaks so many souls I want to see it happen would kill my soul Avi. Did that the God? Yeah, the undertaker's now and tiktok anyway, and then it's. He talks about like this really late Rustler's core and we find out about that including the Xavier. Woods gave him this really nice gavel that he just happened to have in his pocket and he showed off on camera because he's like. Yeah, I just happened to have it here. Look, here's the gavel and you know you're like losses shit when he saw that. because. One of my favorite things that I've ever been given. so that was really sweet, but yeah I wanted I want more. Like I. Really Want more because I think my favorite thing about this was like the Godfather story, right? He's Getting Ready to tell the godfather story and he's like so I have to disclaimer this. We were younger. This is not recent. We were younger and we were known to potentially put away some whiskey, not claiming we did it not acknowledging or not, you know accepting that we did it just might have happened that we maybe had been under the influence of alcohol at the time, and I'm sitting here in my blank is. Is your mother still alive? Because I feel like this is a man that fears his mother. Or someone! Like. Artistic just say that you did it, 'cause. We all know that you did it. You have the reputation for it. We all know you did it. Just you know the honest, but yeah I want more. I would love to see more. Her story time or I would love to see him. Write a book or just get more footage from this in general because I feel like it would be just. There's so much there that we didn't get to see and I think my favorite thing about like I said before the whole Docu series in general is just getting to see the person at I I genuinely love the person behind the character as much as I love the character now because it's like you just see him in an all. You're such a Dork I love you so even though I'm sure he's not perfect, you know. He has his his ups and downs and everything else, but yeah I. I wanted Mar.. Because we got the team stories, and I want the non tame stories. Agree I like it. Just! Like I say he twits jail and he can just do you know? Take her talk, and he could just sit there on twitch like a legit that make good like sign up for twitch channel, and he probably never stream in. He could get ten gay twenty, gay thirty gay, however, many K. subscribers like because it's the undertaker he need. Partner didn't like two days and I would cry, but it would be amazing. So anyway an extra. It's time for this week's edition of the next. She run down. The show the cool kids watch or really old people so Matt I actually jokingly said. Take your sugar can only fans to I jokingly said that, so the other night to sue coming into the show. We are all scared to death. I thought Uncle William was gonNA leave us. And I don't want Uncle William to leave us. He's like Uncle William Somebody has to watch hunters. Kids were not good. Discuss take. Talk about this show so I, want to answer that no, no, we're not answering were answering that. No right he's already goes tits out every match. He goes tits out anyway, so it doesn't matter if he takes his tits out on twitter, not. twits anyway. That'd be the only I, can't he? Can't. Guys can't do it. They can't sit there shirtless. Because some people could sexualize it. Wow. That's a thing. Anyway. It Open with William Regal Choosing keithly via the magical webcams, and he talked about how he's going to give up. The NFC. North America Championship Regal. Nashville was he's creating series of triple threat matches with the winners qualify to go onto the next Taylor for thirty two P. in a ladder match for the North America, championship so before we get into all those matches her opening contest Dexter Lewis Healy. The this is good. This is really. Very durable Dexter Maeda impasse out. Dexter is very much in into that. That's his his thing. You had the code ACI cutting selfie pro. Kicking US face often. She's coming for the title. I think we're GONNA. Get that match the takeover thirty. Call Me Crazy I. WE could we absolutely. Could I know though it's just it's so hard to say ever. Is the mouthpiece I mean resigned go, they did hold mouth these entrance tastic Oh Canada home and native land. I guess it brings Canadian. Yes. Right up freeze athlon about ever Isis from Canada. That was all. Okay all right got it now. Shots blackheart took on. that. That's not the point. The point is after the match. Sheep ran over ruppert stones good foot with her tank. Here's a guy who's worried about his his band flag. She run over. The Goodwin shots him. Good match and well Robert Stone got the last laugh, though because to help him out K Mercedes Martinez, out of nowhere because she boots shot seen the face as the League is trying to get the tank off of Roberts foot. And in the end Mercedes signs with the Roberts stone brand. So we're GONNA get Mercedes and. That was assume Mercedes have. Another. Challenger coming after her to. Someone, who's had a run in with Roberson recently. I think we're GONNA get Mercedes. I'm fine with that. I'm totally fine with that. It was the North American Jimmy. Could qualifier matches a triple threat match. Johnny Gargano Brandon read Roderick strong in a surprise to me practicing. Read one I okay with this like I'm really happy. The run. I'm just kind of anyone like it's 'cause. It's like it's Johnny and Roderick Andy figure you know especially with them going into a ladder match up one of them when turn up in, they probably may still turn up in it. But yeah. It's like okay. They're going to move Bronson. Florida all right, cool, cool very cool, but a this was a great match I like this I thought it was enjoyable. I would agree with that the only intimacy. Thatcher William Edge. So, good, typically, Thatcher's over week after week I. Like Him I really I'm really enjoying what he's doing. And just these really hard strong sil- type matches where they're just going in and having these slumps slugfests. Is just really awesome. We have a little. Promo so good. It's like Oh. Hi, fin where he came to our. Where are you talking about his next week? Against Dexter, Lummus, Tim catcher somebody's GonNa die in that match like that is just going to be straight up. Somebody's GonNa die I cannot wait for that. It's going to be so good. You had your main event carrying cross dominic. Digest or dodge Kobe murder. MOM looked great. She sparkled. She's very sparkly. This was good was good. Carrying got the win. Keely had to come out to make sure that there so funny business as he kind of had the choke for a a while, but what I liked about this was carrying crosses almost daring keithly to save his friend. Right you're. Like he's like come on, do it save him. I'm going to beat him up. I'm going to rough him up. I'M GONNA choke out save him. Make that choice Satan and keithly doesn't do it, so carrying ends up basically. Choking out dominic, which was which was absolutely just fantastic storytelling. I like how they're slowly building this between Keith and Karen were. It's like there's no real reason for them to fight, but they're building the reason to the fight, and it's a slow burn and I love that. A very solid. Very solid, so I think that's what show I think that's our show so all right? 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Kane - Notsam Wrestling 268

Notsam Wrestling

1:23:11 hr | 8 months ago

Kane - Notsam Wrestling 268

"This week I'm not saying wrestling so much to talk about with Roman reigns getting doused in Dog Food Walter Losing the annex t UK championship so to speak speak and Kane is with us in studio on this here show. This is not sam wrestling. It is introducing your host from New York here is burgers. Everybody hope you're staying warm wherever you are happy Mondays. What a way to start the week? I'm actually enjoying this schedule. I liked that that Monday morning. First thing not sam wrestling is there for you every single. Oh time no matter what. We're back on Thursday afternoons as well. That sounds like a random time. You really wanted to be dependable. It's basically it'd be Friday morning because it'll be sometime between three. PM and seven PM you're guaranteed to get a new podcast every Thursday. There's Day but who knows exactly what time it's going to be either way we get the shows up and we enjoy doing them right. The content is out there and and that's twenty twenty is going to be all about for not Sam and for not Sam. Wrestling is getting as much content. Out there for you as humanly possible whether that's that's on youtube whether that's Patriot on whether that's here on the podcast. Wherever you find anything just put slash not sam or slash not sam wrestling and and you'll find great content? We're putting out videos from the podcast on instagram over a INSTAGRAM DOT com slash. Not Sam and on twitter at twitter slash not Sam. Of course we've got the nod same youtube page the Nazi Wrestling Youtube page. And all the wonderful beautiful. Not Sam shells at Patriotair Dot com slash not sam wrestling in all getting to enjoy all this content as I think more about what we're going to be doing in twenty twenty and think about what. WWe has been doing Over Twenty nineteen and also what they've been doing over the twenty ten so as as we talk about that we'll talk about it more as the weeks go on here. You're on the PODCAST. But we will be doing new shows of course as we always do every Monday and every Thursday so that last week of the year. I think we're GONNA be doing shows that our year end and decade and shows so I want you guys to be e mailing not sam wrestling gmail.com with any he points or discussions that you WanNa have I about twenty nineteen and what twenty twenty is going to look like and then about about the entire decade of the twenty ten and we'll probably do some kind of countdown as to what the top ten moments of two thousand ten were or something like that. Maybe I'll find somebody great to the countdown with you can make those suggestions to you can also email that email address not sam wrestling at gmail.com to discuss any a Stuff that's happening throughout the week. Every Thursday we generally go through a lot of those emails. So if you WANNA email not Sam Russell g mail dot com with any thoughts that you you have throughout the week. Go ahead and do that. And we'll get to it on Thursday on the PODCAST Speaking of this podcast. This is a big one this week. We've got CAIN now. Cain stepped in and he did the Jim Norton and Sam Robert Show on Sirius. Xm And you know when I big interviews like that that I think you all are going to enjoy. I WanNa make sure for that. They're on the PODCAST to if you've already heard it no problem. You're still download this podcast. Now you've got the interview forever posterity. There's going to be video of it going up at youtube slash not sam wrestling And of course we'll have a full length state of wrestling immediately following the interview. And we've got a lot to talk about their so we've got a lot of content content to hit you with today on the podcast Cain was in studio because he's got a new book out kind of chronicling his life in wrestling a and politics And it's really it's it's an interesting read speakers Kane has done so much you know we we forget. Sometimes that came started as he's one of these guys in in the late eighties early nineties. I guess is really when Kane I started right around smokey mountain like you know ninety one ninety two is when people started to become aware ninety three maybe and he did a couple of things in Smoky Mountain I think he was Yuna bomb. At one point he was is definitely the Christmas creature at one point but his first foray into wwe was of course the legendary doctor is a Yank Him DDS S.. Still one of my favorite things Mattel has done since procuring the WWe toy license is figure out a way to get an Isaac Yank 'em action figure gear in the line. One is a gang action figure exists and it's not a Hasbro. Isaac Yank him even though he was wrestling in the Hasbro era. And it's not Jack's Isaac Yank Him even they had the rights to Glenn Jacobs and had an entire line of classic superstars. Jackson made a giant Gonzales. Jackson made a Basham. Boettger Jackson made it harvey whipple made named everybody. They made Andy Kaufman. They may everyone you can think of. Never made an is again cam. So Jack's turned around. I mean mattel turn around and figure out figured out how they you can get an is again come in the line and they did and it really is a beautiful figure. He comes to the dental mask and everything. It's amazing. I mean dental goggles. What he comes with I think so I have it over there? He's got a removable white dental shirt the blue pants but obviously is a gang. Komo short-lived didn't really work out. But W W didn't lose faith in Glenn Jacobs as a performer. Former and I'm sure his size had a lot to do with it When he was asked to come back and be diesel number two when Kevin Nash and Scott Hall and went over to WCW wwe wanted to prove that they own the rights to raise her on diesel and Scott Hall and Kevin? Nash could do whatever they want. But God damn those were their characters. I so here comes fake razor and fake diesel fake diesel of course played by the one and only Glenn Jacobs that was also short lived but wwe still still did not lose faith in Glenn Jacobs and they started telling this amazing story about the undertaker. And here's an attitude era pallbearer undertaker bastard son half-brother the seed of I. I think they ended up both being pallbearers kid. I don't remember but the undertaker thought that his brother had died in a fire that it was actually started by Paul Bear. I mean it was actually started by. The undertaker pallbearer had raised the undertaker. Because on accident he killed his parents and his brother in a fire but with the entertainer didn't realize is Cain was alive the whole time and bad blood ninety seven. That's gotta be Kane Kane shows up any rips that door off of the Helena Sal and he tombstones the undertaker undertaker and Sean gets that pin. That's October of ninety seven. The two don't actually meet in the squared circle came. Go onto beat vader at the next pay per view mankind mankind at the pay per view after that by the way beating. All those guys with red lights left on in the arena the entire time the more things change the more they stay the same. CAIN was a monster. He didn't sell for everybody. Anyone he beat up everybody and there were red lights on the entire time he wrestled. Do we know anybody like that. So cain ends up wrestling the entertainer wrestlemainia four teen. That's the recipe that was headlined by Shawn Michaels and Stone. Cold Steve Austin not the greatest match in the world but the story leading leading up to it was one of the best told rivalry stories in wrestling ever came would go on to be the big red monster he turn into a good guy and become a human after his friendship with ex pock He would eventually be unmasked after losing a match. Coaching Madison Square Garden exposing that half of his hair had been burned off. He immediately went to the locker room and shaved off the other part of his hair because he realized how stupid he looked but then he became bald scary looking Kane starred in the film see no evil went to resume at twenty six years. There's after wrestlemainia fourteen. The undertaker returned after being in the American bad ass to have another match with Kane their wrestlemainia twenty He became corporate came. You went back to wearing the mask you I mean the story of Cain is a tremendous tremendous one if anybody should have a book. I think it's that guy I I was so excited to have Canaan and of course this is from the Sirius. XM Show which means we're not going to go strictly wrestling. Jim Norton my co host in studio with me as is comedian. Sam Morale Morale now. Sam Morell grew up cane fan so he was super excited. He grew up in the attitude era. So he's as excited as any of us would be when Cain walked in that studio so so today here on not Sam wrestling you get to listen for yourself. What happened when the big red machine stepped into the Jim? Jim Norton and Sam Roberts Studio the not Sam Wrestling Interview Ladies and Gentlemen. Oh my God I would. I would say it's a safe bet. Probably what's going on the tallest mayor in America for sure you would fuck up Buddha judge. The Glenn Jacobs Cain however you know him. He's here any more studio with us are Y'all have you done research to make sure that you are the physically biggest mayor in America so there is a mayor from another county in rural Tennessee. MRI that he's a pretty big cat. I think he's really a big dude. Yeah we could we could. We could add something to the Tennessee. Volunteers offensive line. You play football ever or no I did it play the Truman State University which play offensive tackle. Of course there's only one position plan. Yeah so when you're at what point in your life. Did you start to get a politically motivated. And I didn't even mean like thinking that this should be a career. I mean. Get Interested in it because you've been talking about economics and politics for a long time. Yeah Really I've always been that way. Ever since I was a kid. I've been interested in history. Social Studies is probably my favorite class when I was in school so I've always always been interested to some extent going through college. Get exposed get exposed to some some different ideas and then you get out in the real world and you find out gosh. Government takes a lot of money from from. What does it do with it? And sometimes it doesn't do very good stuff with it so you you know just just throughout my life. I've always been somewhat interested. I never earlier I never would have considered running for elected office and right in fact that point I said that I never would ever. Why would anyone ever want to do that? Then I changed my mind. What's the biggest surprise you've had like since you get elected government? I'm GonNa make a difference what's been the biggest thing like. Oh Aw God that's awful. Well you know I don't know if there's been any surprises in that respect because I went in you know rather rather don't WanNa say cynical but I think a realist about how Roberts And it does. It does go slow. And they're actually as a reason for that. We want accountability. They want transparency and that sort of thing seriously. My biggest surprise is how much fun it is and it really is. It's a blast and I have a lot of fun doing this. I mean he's done a lot out of fun things for a living. Yeah very well but I also think it's all everything's with Jamaica if you concentrate I mean everybody's everybody's but he's GonNa have issues. We understand that you know and if you concentrate on that all the time that's what you're gonNA. Are you gonNa feel about things but if you if you concentrate around the positives and trying to have an impact and trying to do things anything constructive and doing those in the right way. That's what what you're kind of paradigm emerges and. That's what I try to do. So when you when you decide you're going to run. Do you start painstakingly going through your wrestling career to figure out okay. What clips are they going to play out of context to explain this town? You want your mayor doing remiss dropping your leg on sellers throat. Well he's you're a woman on fire. Well here's the thing. Yeah you worry about that stuff but I also hope that people are mature enough to understand that. That's entertained. Schwarzenegger got elected so right and also I think the stereotype is. His change is now which is a good thing but yeah you know it's always like someone's going to say this or that and he did people saying that in the end he just after you know whatever it's also gotta be nice to like since ensure Kane it's like so super character-driven right you're like I'm not the undertaker's brother. I don't wear a red mask. I'm not related to Paul bearer. In any way like this is this is clearly a soap op but yeah I always say you know. Most politicians are trying to convince people that the politician is the person I see on ATV in many cases I was trying to convince them that I'm not the person I personally couldn't separate Senator Barbara beefcake if you come out with aw with garden shears. All that stuff candidates have undertaker an rand Paul. That's it's very unique. Both saying the same thing. He hits hard libertarian. Like I vote. The first time I've ever voted. It was and he was was the libertarian. But was for. Ross Perot whose independent and I felt like I wanted somebody who wasn't a Democrat or Republican. Were you always libertarian. Or is that like kind of like Bloomberg is now gonNa run is a Democrat but he was a Republican in New York. Where you just Kinda WanNa make a difference so whichever I mean you know for me? The Republican Party has. It's getting better with people like Ryan Brand Paul but it Kinda left its roots. which was you know the pro freedom pro-opportunity Party and that's really when I talk about the libertarianism philosophy and its philosophy that people should be able to act freely so long as you're not hurting anyone else? The government should leave him alone. And I think that most people can relate to that. I was a big fan of Ross. Perot you know because if you look at what we're off Bro. was saying fiscally for the country He he called it right right and you know at the time. I think we had a little over trillion dollars in debt and he's showing these graphs and stuff and people didn't take it seriously. Well now we have twenty three trillion dollars in debt and a lot of a fiscal issues. So I was a big fan from the fact that he actually told things like they were and wasn't sugar. Coating fell apart a little bit at the end. Yeah he did he did. It'd be also he. You know for better for worse he changed and things to you know and he really Um the reason that that we have a lot of the electoral system though it is now is because of what Perot the fact that you know. The the two parties wanted to make sure that that couldn't happen again that you could have a viable third party candidate. Everybody's got stories about Andre the giant and wrestling and how he didn't like other giants right because it threatened his spot at the giant. So when you came into. WWe As Kane Right. And you're and you're there to fight the undertaker Acre and you're just as big as him and your this demonic character. was there any of that in the undertaker early on like my biggest advocate. He he loved it. Yeah Yeah because you know for a couple of reasons. I mean we've already known each other. In fact our first match had been in. Knoxville wasn't even a wwe. Come down and done bachelor smokey mountain wrestling and you know so we knew each other. And then also I think just the fact that marks a business guy and he understands that you know he. He can draw money with someone like me so he was. He was the biggest advocate for the character. In fact I remember once. Vince McMahon telling me I was worried about something and then said that taker come in and it didn't just did not relate to him but I mentioned it to take her INVINCI- The marks are. He talked to me about that. I think he worries more about you than he does himself. He was always. He was always a huge huge advocate of mine. When you're a smart guy right as smart as you are? We got a lot of information formation. And you're right but character wise and publicly. You have to do all you're talking through a fake voice box to sound like a robot. Does it get frustrating trading. When you're like I want to be able to communicate? It was and I was so glad. When when Cain was finally able to talk because also Being under the mask and never talking added lot of Mystique and mystery to the character at the same token after Pila Senate for a while it gets stale. And you don't have that entertainment value that you you have if you have that added dimension So I was extremely happy when I was able to talk and the voice box is kind of trick because I had I had to use it. You couldn't if you just use the voice box and didn't actually audibly say okay anything Audibly I guess word you can understand it at all so I had to figure out the right mix of where I can have my own voice in the modulation of the voice box to make it actually hear what I could say but still have the effect that they wanted. How long has your term as mayor for years? So when you done with that you know if you're gonNA like it for fulltime but but do you want to stay in power. It was just like Clint Eastwood did Carmel California and they did it and they went back to his other lacking life. Do you WanNa stay in politics and just get out of wrestling. I Yeah I don't know what I WANNA do seriously. You should come back Mayor Kane that would be the most sinister character you know. I seriously don't know because may appear inspirational to you like. Hey this guy's a mayor and all of a sudden these in the national and here's the thing we we put way too much way too much emphasis on the federal government and we forget how important state and local governments. Are you know and you guys. Of course you know that New York City Idi Amin who your your city government here has tremendous amount of power and influence over your lives and for me again. Going back to libertarian streak. The federal government's just way into powerful and I would rather see. I want small government Ballard much per of what I really WANNA see is much smaller government at the federal level and more power delegated back to the states in the lookout. You Know Rand Paul you like Rand Paul. You might explain this better because sometimes they report things he was the guy the one vote against against green lighting. The nine eleven healthcare bill right but at my part of me is like there's gotta be more to him and then this exactly what happened was was he was all for it. The also said in order to pay for this. We have to determine how we're gonNA cut something somewhere else and you know. He was all for the bill L. itself but he was also fiscal responsibility and of course what everyone in Washington does like. Oh we can just. We have free money to hand everybody. So wasn't that he was against it. He you said you know we're spending way too much money so let's figure out something else that we can that we can cut just like we wouldn't households so that we can pay for this but that what they criticized. I and I'm not going with the Personal Chris. I don't know enough about it. But they went after him and said well. He didn't do that to corporations that were being cut. Billions of dollars does. Is there a reasoning behind that As far as well the tax cuts you know I would argue. I can't speak for him but they had in what they weren't. You know I was offered this ascot's as well but they also would have had to have a spending cut and we didn't see the spending in the tax cuts are always good because they do help. Keep money in the hands of private industry at the same point the government has to when you do a tax cut. It's not really cut. If you're funding it through deficit spending which is what they do. So I would have argued that you need both trying to react as recently on twitter. Finally A and it's even it's both sides is the thing and often you people rail on Republican for this and they rail and Democrat for that and he actually look look at it and it's a little more complex than what comes across in two hundred forty characters in two hundred three hundred two hundred eighty two twitter. It was one four. Yes yes I think to eighty pushing for five sixty in war and peace before you got more tweets right. Have guys come up to you and talk to you about getting into life outside of wrestling. I mean you know because you obviously for you make such a successful transition right. Yeah that's GONNA be a big deal to a lot of people that are like you know I'm GonNa wind down at some point and at that point point. What do I do when when I can't wrestle anymore I haven't really had anyone call for that per se but In my advice is always just. I just realized that you're wrestling. Kerr's lasts forever and Take Care Business and make sure that you've put some money aside And at least have some sort the plan for afterwards plans going to be different for everybody. I mean joint between Johnson. got into movies and he's been fairly bombing thing. Thing is checking account is out and John Cena getting movies but John's doing like the more the comedy stuff as opposed to join the action stuff. So what's up to. I don't know actually that guy who's going to clan around clown wrestling clown was exactly as he sounds actually doing clown. Yeah yes although I mean look joy you could. You could have asked the same thing being of what's is again. Come up to these and you'd be like he's doing pretty well. How's it before? CAIN was cane. He was the fake diesel. And then before it was the fake diesel he was Isaac Gangnam DDS. See I tapped out of that whole world after I chief Jay strongbow lost his congressional aggressions bid. Backman ran for Congress. He didn't Stephanie. Vince is she did get elected nursing. It was appointed as the head of the small business. There's a lot of people in politics. He was a mayor and then governor. Yeah forget him. How do you know right? So like Cain obviously one of the most successful wrestling characters of all time but like we said it's it's after a string of of it's a hit after a string of Mrs sure you kind of know going in. You're like okay. I gotTa make a wrestling dentist work. Okay I gotTa make my exact the accident and then you go. What's next after this? Okay I gotTa make a rip off the most one of the most beloved characters of all time. Now I gotTa make that work mark when you go in to do Kane. Are you going. Finally this is it or you going all right. Let's see how long this one last night I was finally this you absolutely I mean and I would say that the How they say they don't really have mistakes and failures if you learn from them and that's kind of what? My my first experiences really were was that it gave me the tools that I needed an experienced. I needed to make Canes successful and frankly if they did if I'd had the cane character initially it wouldn't have done what it did because I just wouldn't have been able to do that do you think. By that context there is anything you could have done to make the wrestling. Dentist work. Not Me personally he was in. Even what's what do you. Who Do you hate like other people got really cool? Like Rock Guitar Ktar rifts and I gotta dental that was not a literally sing teasing to that and I mean that was the point where. WWe was at just Kind of on their theme Arkwright we've Gone Very. PG At that point and very very over the top character drip. I WANNA I wanna see like an oncologist. He'll anyway just. That's that's something that I felt that I could pull off but again I mean I did the best I could with it and then you're also young first opportunity. So what are you gonNa say in and and And hopefully events. I knew that I get my foot in the door. It could lead to something better finally. How many years did you wrestle man? I started in nineteen ninety. Guess the winner of Nineteen ninety-one man almost thirty years with Kevin. Nash pissed when you do that. The fans it's just it's business. It's not like you went in and said Hey why don't you let me hit. Also we never made fun of it was treated as a serious character wasn't like we made fun of ridiculed. Anything what did you. Yeah that was talking about. It was a copy of another character purposes copies. So Yeah Kevin. Nash played this character named diesel in. WWE Book Dude. It's all in. I got the book literally Kevin. Nash left the company though and he kinda portrayed the same type of character. But Vince was like no. I own that character and I'm GONNA prove that to everybody and he brought in Mr Jacobs to go now. You'll play the character in which is an uphill battle to say the least was and of course Kevin is doing doing pretty good he wants to. WCW He was doing okay. I don't think there was any Any hard feelings in and also imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So right right so with this one CAIN started in October of one thousand. Nine hundred ninety seven to the wrestling fans liked by questions. They probably think think some of them might be a little obvious a little rudimentary wrestling but we talked a lot of restaurants. I asked questions that the the hard core guys get very mad at me. I mean yes good questions about rampal you ask questions like a human being. I don't think but but yeah they're wrestling hardcore wrestling fans do get upset but sometimes Jim plays into that. We had Nikki Bella in here and He asked her if Johnson was a wrestler just to upset people. What was the of all the things that you did is cain what was the kind of? I don't know if I can pull this off because you did like I mean ah some of this stuff that you wouldn't think becomes iconic like you saying suck it into a voice modulator. Become this like iconic piece of tape right like what. What would you say the thing as you did is the most I don't know there's there's there's favorites and not so favorite stuff try? What kind of forget about the favorites? Do not so favorite stuff and when you had the twenty seven year career. There's always going to be when stuff when they come to you and they say we want you to be in a match where the loser the only way to lose the match is to be set on fire. And you're GONNA have wanted to win so oh yeah so the Everybody remembers okay. I'm GonNa give you wrestling history. King One thousand nine hundred eighty eight undertaker and Mick Foley have the home the cell match it goes flying off the cell. You supposed to be there. I Want my first world championship that night. Against Cold. Steve Austin and at the end of the match. What was supposed to happen and what eventually did happen was mick? Foley comes out and interferes and undertake comes out and interferes and that allows me to win. When Mick went through the top of the cage? He he was he was no. He wasn't a very good way. Never forget this because my stipulation of the match was. If I didn't win I would set myself on fire. I I really need you to not fall through the case crumbled heap. And I'm really I mean. Mix My buddy. I mean I was really. We're all concerned. I'm like Oh man and he starts moving. It looks looks like he's okay and then Vince. Looks like you're going to have to figure out what we're going to do in case you can't come back out and I'm like first of all I'm like me. These people around you all these writers and stuff on second thought was. Oh my God if I can win going to be very short-lived albeit spectacular ending ending but I'm GonNa have to set myself on fire and I think I can do that. One right so could you set yourself on fire. Yeah now and and we had some In front of matches where we did do stunts that included Burns and that. So we'd have Hollywood stunt coordinators. Come out and help us. We really getting burned or no I mean I mean I. I never got seriously injured because we took the proper precautions but nevertheless you're you're dealing feeling in a in a dangerous environment. Yeah you still got to walk out of an arena with an arm round flamed. Exactly Yeah and you're not exactly you have spent your life training to be exact right and that's what's so unique about. WWe Is the fact that one second year in a match the next second doing a promo the next second you might be on fire able to keep all of that stuff going at the in time and it's it's really. It's the ultimate multitasking. Does that lifestyle prepare you for. I feel like even entering into politics or whatever you enter into when you spend spend that much time in. WWe You're just in this mind state where whatever gets thrown at you you just learn how to deal with it make the most of it and move onto the next thing. That's that's true. I I've actually not really thought about that before. Yeah but that's a great point is you have to be very adaptable. Began as we do so many different things but also I mean I've had tons of media training training I've dealt with media now for going on thirty years A lot of Basically team building and backstage politics ticks. And there's a lot of that so it probably did prepare me pretty well and yes the adaptability and thinking basically. I'm going to have to fake it until I make it Yeah you have to do that. Hey guys get back to what we're doing in a minute but I want to tell you. The twenty twenty is going to bring a content initiative to everything that is not Sam of course a lot of stuff on this podcast wrestling interviews every week as well as hot takes in that state of wrestling. All that video is going to be available in one beautiful magical place for free and that's YouTube dot com slash. Not Sam wrestling. Of course you want access to absolutely everything and you want it. I first. 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Not Sam wrestling hit the the subscribe button. Watch all those videos. Let those minutes accumulate and let's get back to the show when you say media training do you. Do you mean like official media training like what. What did they tell you in media trainings? People go through it and it helps. What do they say? Oh you've never been media trained Jim literally just kind of natural from A. It was a gift. What are they saying? Give humble. Thanks Jim you just move people. What is the media training like? Will they They yeah avoid district they ask you this. How do they train you? Yeah I mean it is a lot of that learning to speak in soundbites learning to get the information across and that sort of thing learning how to it deal with the hostile interviewer speaking sound bite. Yes yeah everybody does I mean. That's that's what we just say about twitter right. I mean that's what you have to do nowadays because you're only GonNa be the on if you're on camera say in a segment most cases you're not going to be on with half in our interview it's going to be fifteen seconds maybe five. How long does it sound bite you? They tell you. Is it like ten in seconds they tell you you might have hostile interviewer. Also we might let you on fire sometimes. Exactly how do get deal with you know. Basically context means everything right and you know. How do you deal with someone who who wants to take something that you're going to say completely out of context and wrap it around? Make it hard for them to do that with the sound like exactly I mean you say specifically what you WanNa say say in a way that it can't be twisted right so it's just that sort of stuff and also just learning to be comfortable warming stuff like you know when you go on camera. Button your jacket. Because that's what looks good and all those sorts of things. Do you like the president you know. I think think I'm like well not like everyone. I like some things and there's other things that I don't you know I think the one thing that really the overall thing is he's genuine his own way right. I mean whether you like him or hate him so it was Ted Bundy. I mean he's not out there and I think people people are tired of the You know they're tired of the politicians and people just tell them what they want to hear So you know that in that respect I think that he could be the More diplomatic about a lot of things that he says and I think that his twitter account You know his sometimes as one of those deals like dude. You don't need to put that out on twitter. I think he should get that voice box him of course as a buffoon I think but I think the I I don't dislike them. I mean there's things he does I don't like but I think you're right like there's something about it. It's refreshing even if he's wrong about things that bothers people saying what he wants to say and he's not not giving me the answer that I know I'm going to get from one and in the end that's you know. I think that's also why he won. The race became president. Because even though people maybe didn't like a lot of stuff they also realize what lease this him and the alternative is just another guy telling me the same thing politely. It's frustrating. What do you think of Andrew Yang I I? He's another guy like some of his stuff other stuff. I mean you know dude. You just can't give people money honey. I'm sorry I said but SAM cheap hand I would like the money that he's he's he's A. He's a great entrepreneur and that sort of thing it says some of some of his financial and fiscal policies economic policies. That you know we. We don't need to be doing anat if you want to give people money you need to cut taxes and cut spending and keep more of their own money right. Do you think are shabby like In Saudi Arabia and all these other countries. Oh no absolutely not on Our men and women they should not be put in harm's way Except his last resort Afghanistan has been you know some. The people that are serving Afghanistan weren't alive in that war began needed to have Needed to have a definite goal and went to achieve. They need to come home. And we can't afford to be the world's policeman and you know we have All and always ended up about a trillion dollars on national defense. By the time you take everything into account and that's way too much money and and again my dad's a twenty one year military veteran he served in both Korean Vietnam. And I think we're just doing our our folks in the military to service when we send them places and keep them there forever and they end up not not necessarily protecting America being the world's policeman there. Hillary like says something you don't have to like Tulsi Chelsea gathered but to say she's a Russian age actually served and went to war and I have a lot of respect for Tolsey She would I think in other one. I don't agree with her economic economic policies but I do agree with with her when she comes to what she says about foreign policy and and again it's amazing that she's attacked act for that right and she's the one person who's she's served in the military. Yeah seems like a lot of these people actually served a very antiwar they understand. They seem they're not they're not bad. You seen we've seen. What did you say that stolen one dollars? They're not they're not politicians. They can actually relate to the men and women who are serving our country and they respect that and unfortunately I think a lot of politicians give that lip service. But I don't think they have that level of of actual inherent respect that our men women informed do. How did the people of your mayor of Knox County Right? How did the people of Knox County feel when they see their mayor Monday night raw? Because you're not there obviously you don't wrestling they kind of actively every week anymore but just a few weeks ago. Twenty four seven champion right the blasios choke slamming exactly. Yeah Yeah I think most people think it's cool because it highlights highlights our area. I mean I think just having a mayor of your town that can still pull off wearing spandex is that would be the vote for America so wrestling fans have seen cain start off visit to gain the demon the undertaker's brother than you went into this. This monster you the voice box unmasking with half of a shaved ahead very quickly into the full shaved head which I'm sure you're called a into Cain the kind of corporate weasley Guy Corporate McCain. Do you have a favorite era into Kane that now wrestles inuit gain. Yes do you have a favorite era of Cain to portray there are are two. It's the original. I one of the first incarnation in nineteen ninety. Seven thousand nine hundred ninety eight and also Dan O'Brien this team. Hell no and because those served as far apart as you can get one the dark mysterious character than the other one the funny comic relief on the show the end the devils favorite demon go to anger anger. Management classes out veterans attacked him right now but I think if you'd ask people in in nineteen like the year two thousand or a little earlier than that that you're telling canes going to be the comedic relief on the show right people would have been looked at you like it or not. Yeah so it was just it was fulfilling for me to be able to pull it off and then also hopefully show people that I have some versatility as a performer. We've made a lot work in wrassling you've made now a lot work work in politics and let's play his books on. The book is by the way Mayor Kane my life in wrestling and politics of course by Glenn Jacobs and yet you're doing assigning a book ends it's over in Ridgewood I'll take place man. I was checking out their facebook. And Yeah if they had some really cool people carly Simon did a book sign over there recently. Clinton did it tie. It's an independent bookstore. It's cooler though. Say they've had some really. They've had some really cool people. CAIN rocking out to Carly Simon can. Yeah so bookends in Ridgewood New Jersey tonight six. PM You can go. You can get a signed copy of Mayor Kane. You can also get signed copies of Mayor Kane on Barnes and nobles old books a million and premier collectibles websites. If you're not in Ridgewood you get your signed copies there. But if you're anywhere near Ridgewood look disguise. The mayor's now you don't have that much time nine to be doing signings all over the place right. Take advantage get out their books on. He'll take at least five to ten of these person and talk about wrestling politics politics. The whole thing it'll be great. Yeah and and I hope every desk them out tonight I love to talk with everyone. uh-huh and I just hope that people enjoy the book and that's why many things just entertained and maybe in some cases you know maybe the Komo tidbits stuff that they didn't know before gray sign. It's fun to do it. You go you get the books I need to say. Hello to the person who you like and the book chronicles. Everything like career is so great. Because you're such a multigenerational performer. That legos talking to Sam Morrell who has watched wrestling in forever. Body watch wrestling when he was a kidding. That meant that it could be I could be caned showing up in ninety seven kids really. Wild Man is that I haven't done except the occasional bit on TV but pretty much for two years. I have I haven't been on TV. Much I get recognized more now than I ever have and a lot of. It's because the attitude here and wwe. But I'll tell you the coolest thing ever is when someone comes up to me and just shakes my hand and says thank you for years of entertainment I mean. That's just the most awesome awesome thing. That's so gratified. Yeah really well congrats on everything. Mayor Glenn Yeah we'll see you next time. You're in New York Sam. Morell Cleveland this weekend. 'em Emma Friday Saturday hilarity caroline twelve thirteen fourteen. And that's it. Thanks for coming in both. Yeah thank you man. We'll see you guys later goodbye. It's now time for for this week's state of wrestler so let's get into it state of wrestling time again. Thanks to Kane for coming by the Jim Norton and Sam Robert Show and for allowing us the time that would allow us to then share it right here on not sam wrestling. Don't forget Thursday. We'll be back so make sure you're emailing not sam wrestling at gmail.com sending all those questions topics things that you want opined on on the Thursday not Sam Thursday edition right here on the podcast. Let's get into before we get into the news items. Because here's here's what we'll do would do news items throughout the weekend. We'll get into into what's been announced for raw but before we get there. Why don't we talk about smack down the nearest thing that has happened since we last left? Did you hear on not Sam wrestling. So there were some highlights to smackdown. This was a little highlight but I thought Mandy rose tearing off Alexa Bliss. This is fake eyelash was awesome. I don't understand I mean I actually liked it back in the day. They and maybe it was because the beauticians were not as I mean. I don't WanNa take a shot at any of the beauticians but I don't know back in the day and annex t right when he was first starting to do roadshows they were first starting to really develop as a brand that existed outside of full sail and a couple little armories in Florida when they started to create a real presence on the wwe network when Finn Valor was a star when the women's division started coming up for the first time when they first started to do those was live shows. They did the first one in Philly and they did that weekend where they ended in Albany. Maybe you would see hair extensions in the ring all the time and there's a little thing but I preferred when you would see hair extensions in the ring. I mean you know I never understood why. Like if Cain we go back to Kane. You is wearing a wig. Why wasn't as fake hair ever torn out of his ask like? Why aren't they fighting to that extent every now and then one of the things that made the Eddie Guerrero Rey ministerial match at Halloween havoc? which you know as we wind down two thousand nineteen and we start to talk talk about Lakewood the biggest things that happened this year in this decade? Were you talking about the nineteen nineties and that match gets lost. The Halloween Havoc Eddie. Guerrero WPRO Ramos. Madge gets lost because of all the stuff that happened in the nineties but that was one of if not the best matches of that decade to me and I loved did Eddie come. I mean that ray comes in with his mask attached to his outfit. It's like it. It almost looks like it's one piece. He's dressed like the phantom and his mask ends up getting torn happened previously to that. And that's happened many times since then but I like the idea that at the mass gets torn. I liked the idea that why wouldn't man or woman you're out there wrestling fake eyelashes. Why wouldn't those eyelashes come into play? Why wouldn't they get torn off and I like? I think Corey graves did a good job. I think it was corey. Graves of talking about how humiliating it was like. We didn't make it seem like oh because because Mandy rose is doing it. It's really painful to have fake eyelashes ripped off like every now of course it's not painful but what it's humiliating. You're on a television show. You got the whole world watching you and somebody's tearing fake eyelashes and I think if you come to. The ring was fake. Kailash is on there should be a bad guy ready to take them off so I hope there's more that I hope hair extensions get pulled out. You know you know I never understood. I am Irwin R.. SCHYSTER didn't get his tie ripped off more often or it's suspenders. Ripped down more often. You know what I mean anything. That could be an advantage. I guess back then. There wasn't quite as much realism involved. Because one of the bad guy wrestler was a tax attorney and his downtime. So you know maybe there's not as much realism there. However I think moving forward we've gotten into a period where there is much more realism? So if somebody were to wrestle in a tie for example today that should get ripped off so I love seeing that fake eyelash get ripped off. I thought it was different. Something I've been waiting for. I thought it was something that felt real. All the Bray Wyatt I miss stuff was terrific. You know I think and we talked about it on Thursday night. Sam Thursday that it was kind of a foregone conclusion collusion the Daniel Bryan and the fiend would have another match at Tlc especially based on what happened last week on smackdown but and and this is where storytelling gets. Good that you sometimes don't even know. The story is being told to you until we get there. I don't think there were some some rumbling about the MS and the fiend the MS and Bray Wyatt having a match at some point but at survivor series. I think it was really. I think the survivor series was the first time that the MS came to Daniel Bryan and we saw it on television and said look I know we don't get along. But the fiend changes people. I don't know if you want to do this Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. You didn't realize I mean it was like interesting but you thought it was just a little spice and maybe you didn't. Maybe you're smarter than I am. I thought it was just a little spice vice being sprinkled onto the Daniel Bryan Bray Wyatt Story. When I didn't realize it was a story that was taking a turn? Where of course Bri it's GonNa see that? Of course this is GonNa play in and and now we've got this question where we watched the way. smackdown goes off the air last week where Daniel Bryan get sucked into the pits of hell that the fiend comes from which are are directly located under the WWe ring whatever arena there at anywhere in the world so he gets sucked down into the pits of hell and a lot of his hair gets thrown about. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a ball Daniel Bryan return which I think would be a fun. Look for him you know. Change it up a little bit too wild. I think that we don't know right. Now if Daniel Bryan is going to be on the side of the MS or the fiend you know there are there's there's reference being made Bray Wyatt when he's in the firefly funhouse and he's talking about family and the Mrs Family he brings up family and you go back actus shots of the Wyatt's is what's so great about the fiend is that it's not like they took Windham Rotunda as Bray Wyatt and they took him off. TV and they brought him back as a new character. This Bray Wyatt that we're seeing is the same Brian. This is the bray white that had the Hawaiian shirt. This is the Bray Wyatt that sat in the rocking chair. This is the brave fight that was hanging out with Luke Harper and Erick Rowan. Who's got a mystery cage now and Braun Strowman? WHO's one of the top good guys? We are not a racing history story and that's something that happens in wrestling a lot and I love it when you kind of come to this realization that it's not happening when you come to this realization. That history is not only not being erased but being very subtly acknowledged as we move forward it's not defining with the storyline is moving forward but it is part of it. Uh like it should be in any great Form of storytelling. I think that the fact that the MS has gone on TV because people go like Oh. It's going too far that you're now not only involving marines but you're involving the MRS kids. Look I think that the minute Mike Ms Shannon goes on on raw to announce that he and Maria pregnant. I think the minute that you start a reality show where you've got your kids involved in the reality show. That's the decision you WanNa make like more power to you but you have just officially introduced your whole family into the narrative world that we as fans watch of the WWe therefore my non action figure felt on fell down. Therefore the MS and his entire family Are Free Range for storylines. I think that it's not something that should come up all that often. I think it should be used rarely because it can be very very strong. You know you. You don't mess with a man's family right so and I think that's what's going on. I think that the the family thing should be reserved for somebody like the Fienberg now. I think we move onto something even more interesting. which is you watch smackdown this week and you saw Bray Wyatt sweater sweater? Bray Wyatt somebody will say sweater vest or Cardigan like he's got sleeves on it. It's just a sweater just because he's got a shirt under his sweater. Doesn't make it a Cardigan but sweater. Bray Wyatt funhouse. Bray Wyatt got physical for the first time it was fun house. Bray Wyatt that drop them is with the sister Abigail and apparently the match at TLC will number one not a universal championship match. They haven't announced it as such such unless they changed that. And as of right now you look at the match graphics. You look at the verbiage that's been used. It's the MS versus Bray Wyatt. It's not the MS versus the theme. So and it'll be the first time since the return since the fiend Bray Wyatt debuted that we've ever scene funhouse Bray Wyatt inner ring. What pants is going to be wearing my question? We saw funhouse Bray Wyatt wearing jeans on smackdown down. Is it going to wrestle in jeans. I don't think so. Usually we see funhouse Bray Wyatt in the Fun House with like a desk. We see him from the waist up. Blue Jeans are not the type of pants like Mr Rogers would never wear blue jeans. The lady whatever her name was from lamb chops play along she would. I don't think she would ever wear blue jeans. I think that Bratislava pair Chino's on in that match you know. Call me crazy but I think for the integrity of the bryk character. I think Chino's are a must. Maybe you get some nice tight one so break in show because braise clearly been lifting up houses I mean the entire time that Bray Wyatt was off. WWE TV he was just lifting extremely heavyweights because the physical transformation that man has gone through cannot be understated. It is no surprise to me that he wants to do the muscleman dance as often as humanly possible because his shoulders are about seven feet feet across and his waist is three. It's incredible you talk about pyramid-shaped man never seen anything like it. Like Bray so he probably wants to wear some tight Chino's number one to show off those quads because I'm sure he hasn't been skipping leg days but number two because if you notice. He wears those tight striped vertically striped pants. When he's the fiend and it's slim's down the lower half? His body makes the upper half of his body look huge. I don't know if genes are going to do that. He's got to lose the genes. You think this would be the angle that I was going in talking about Bray Wyatt funhouse. Brad's pants. I also think that it saves us from a couple of things number one. The MS my head just went out. I thought it was the Mike for a second number one. The MS specifically saying you shouldn't wrestle the fiend fiend changes people like if the MS is telling pulling Daniel Bryan not to wrestle the fiend. It makes it tough for them is to then turn around and Golic. But I'll do it insulted my family. You know the fact that we can now now save it as well bray. Why did it means the MS doesn't have to go back on all the stuff? He was warning Daniel Bryan not to do and he can then go forward with the storyline without that complication. Being a part of it which I like. I think that that's smart. Also I personally and forgive me. Any for insulting them is which I'm prone to do from time to time. I don't think the MS as earned match with the fiend. I think the fiend is one of if not the top stars in the wwe. And the MS has had a twenty nineteen. I mean Dean from Hell. Nobody really talks about the Mrs Twenty nineteen the MS had this incredible twenty seventeen twenty seventeen was the year of the Ms. In my opinion it was the best year of his career by far. It was incredible for the twenty. Seventeen was so good for them is that he was able able to power through two thousand. Eighteen on the power of twenty seventeen and two thousand eighteen was still fine. Two thousand eighteen was still good. Twenty nine hundred awful awful. He lost the tag titles. The one with Shane McMahon he and Shane lost those tag titles at the Royal Rumble. He has not won a significant match coach since the Royal Rumble 2019. Nothing on pay per view. I mean he lost. Both Shane McMahon matches. He gave up his summer sleigh matched Goldberg just because he's nowhere near any storyline. He's EDSA MS. TV's with some really good guests. That's it it so you know I don't. I don't think the MS has earned a match with the fiend and I don't think he's going to be able to be Bray Wyatt so there you have it now. I do think that this would be a wonderful opportunity for a couple of things number one to have a new Daniel. O'Brien debut and I do think that we're going to go back to Daniel Bryan being in tandem with the fiend. You know I do think that we're GONNA see Daniel O'Brian with a shaved head. Probably keep the beard have a shaved head and I think he's GonNa be there to help the fiend. I think we're going to go back to WHO Daniel Bryan joins the Wyatt family story but kind of spice it up and modernize it going into twenty twenty. I also think and I don't know if you can do both I think it's one or the other. I think that maybe this when you remember smackdown like it might have been the first or the second smackdown act out on Fox. They did a thing where the fiend sucked. Seth rollins under the ring. I know everybody wants to forget about the Seth rollins fiend viewed but they did a thing where the fiend suck seth rollins under the ring and then he was instantly on the stage of smackdown and it felt like it was too quick. That a person couldn't move that quick. I I kind of like the idea of having the fiend show up somewhere visibly in the arena while Bray Wyatt is in the ring thing and have the ms go like what what the hell is going on like. I guess you could do both. I guess what I would do is I would have the fiend I do. The MS give is His finisher to bray and Bray Wyatt's knocked out then then. Boom boom boom the fiend shows up in the entranceway. Demise is looking at the fiend Bray Wyatt like what the Hell I have the real bright white in the ring. WHO's this fiend? And then all of a sudden from behind Daniel Bryan attacks. The MS something like that I think would be cool. You could do a thing thing where I mean you could have the fiend come out and attack them is and then take his mask off to reveal. It's Daniel Bryan but Daniel Bryan is not the same MHM sizes the fiend at all. You would know soon as he came out. That's clearly not the fiend. His jacket is too big so I think the best thing you can do is get a fake fien to show up in the entrance way. Distract them is then shaven head. Daniel Bryan comes out to help Bob. Bray Wyatt beat MS and get in. The referee comes to because he's unconscious for whatever reason I don't know but we have about a week less than a week now six days as the day. This podcast comes out before foretell see your matches bray white in the MS. It's not so you do you have a pay per view with no universal title match and no wwe title match. That's risky You do have Ms Verses Bray Wyatt of course which is a big one you've got new day versus The revival which I don't know if we really had to have a four team elimination match to figure out the revival or the ones get title shots. I kind of knew from the beginning. We of course should be the revival and then then you of Roman reigns versus Barron Corbin. It was long rumored that this would be a dog collar match which I don't really have a problem with but it will not be a dog collar match. It will be a traditional. TLC match tables ladders and chairs. I don't know what they're going to hang. Maybe he can't dog food from the roof of the building. Or maybe maybe they'll just do pin falls and have tables ladders and chairs strewn about the ring. I think that this will not be an aerial assault type TLC match. I think it'll more be the type of TLC match where you got two big dogs slamming each other with furniture. And I'm interested in seeing the match. Roman reigns I. I think as I've said on smackdown I enjoy smackdown. Roman has been better on smackdown than he has been in a long time and I think that it should be brought up. That Roman is not getting the booze he wants got when you watch. smackdown roaming gets cheered when he comes out because has he is the man and baron. Corbett Dolf Ziglar boot. If you watch smackdown those audiences far more often than not are cheering the good guy. In being the bad guy which I think leans to effective storytelling. I believe that after. TLC We should just make a declaration that we can never make reference to the big dog again. No more dog jokes puns. Visual jokes audio audio cues nothing no more dog references to Roman reigns after. TLC We get it we get it. No Dog Mascots Scott's not Wa wa seeping no dog references to Roman reigns. He can still call himself the big dog. But we're all going to understand the minute. TLC HE L. C. is over that he is not literally calling himself a dog. We don't need to make any more literal dog references it's nf the did did this way. smackdown ended with the dog. Food thing I was like okay. Another dog reference the only shining light on that was the fact that if you watch Dolph Ziglar and Baron Corbin and whoever that mystery man was under the ring grabbing Roman reigns feet. I don't know who the security guard was that decided to dive under the ring and grabbed his ankles. But good on your you talk about people that will go above and beyond that. Is that guy. I think the only eh shining moment of that dog food segment was that The commitment that you could see on the face piece of Dolph Ziegler and bearing Corbin man they take an idea that was not the greatest idea in the world and turn it into as much watches. They could've I watch smackdown and I believed that bearing Corbin and dolph ziglar badly wanted Roman reigns covered smeared eating dog food there and Corbin was mashing it. All in Roman reigns beautifully conditioned Hair Dolls Ziegler shoving it down his mouth. Look look on paper. I'm going to sit there and say we don't need to do. Another dog segment randomly. Only having cans of dog food under the ring is weird. You start getting into the visual of of Baron. Corbin Dolph Ziegler opening cans of dog ugh food before smackdown. While everybody's around they're sitting there like crouch down next to the ring with their can openers. And their dog food and a big amp bag. They're sitting there opening their cans of dog food and hiding under the ring. They if you're an adult and you're a pro wrestler you would have to think I think that realistically speaking if you and your friends are in your late. Twenty S and. Let's be honest early to mid thirties. And you're sitting there opening up Kansas dog food and putting them under the ring at some point. Somebody's going to say guys. This is stupid. What the hell are we doing? Why don't we just injure him? Hey what have. We took all the effort that we're going to smear dog food all over him and just break his ankle before the pay per view wouldn't wouldn't that be more effective can do the dog food thing no way dude. I don't know if it's barren Corbett's guiding them down the path or if it's off ziglar or maybe it's bobby route by being nano. I know injuring the ankle will never work. You gotTA handcuff him and smear dog food all over him be much better going into the paper you that way. I don't know I don't know whose idea was. But when I visualized that team open cans of dog food at ringside before smackdown and hiding them under the ring and nobody's sitting there going. Why are we doing this? I laugh it makes me laugh. I think it's funny but like I said Ziglar and Corbin committed one hundred percent of themselves to that bit one hundred percent. I looked at the faces of Ziglar and Corbin and I said hey guys that really want Roman reigns covered in dog food food. So good for that Man Dolph Ziglar and Baron. Corbin are the type of guys that you want on your team. Here's the mission that we have I captain and they go out and complete the mission to their best of their abilities. Way to go Barron Corbin and Dolph ziglar wait ago. Let's talk about some of the news items items that popped up over the weekend we have comings and goings in. WWE A couple of days ago. They announced to the newest Performance concentre try out class was and you know. We've had Dalton Castle on this podcast a couple of times. Now he's been here in the Nazi. Am Studio. I've had him on live show. I love talking to using entertaining guy. I love seeing what he does in ring of honor. I was looking at the photos of the people going to the performance right now and they were like well. Here's these two twins that are you know independent wrestlers and I was like. Oh that's cool. That's the good twins to go looking. Is that are twins and their team narrow. I'm like yeah there could be some wait a minute. I know those faces I have got to find out how Dalton Castle feels about the fact that the boys made it to the performance center before he did so Dalton Castle really really created this when Dalton Castle to Gimmick was first created. I love the beginning of Dalton Castle because it was this like Hyper Sexual Glam Rock Doc. You know weird. Ds Go seventies drug infused party creature of a wrestler that would come out in these flamboyant bodysuits in these big wings on him and he wouldn't be sitting there you you know going after the women he wouldn't be e- e- going after the boys and he never declared that it was a sexual thing you know it was just. It was a lot of Innuendo. Oh and a lot up in the air I mean androgynous. Probably a good word for the original Dalton Castle character. But he had these boys that would travel with him everywhere. And they'd wear a Little Little Zorro masks like Like the Kubrick Movie Eyes Eyes Wide Shut. Nate Phantom with these big feather fans and they'd make themselves into stairs adulting Catholic will get in the ring they make themselves into a human chairs. adulting castle could have a seat after his match. Whatever Dalton Castle needed the boys were there to take care of it and now the boys are at the? WWE PERFORMA Thomas Center. So I would imagine you'll hear more from them. There's a small guys maybe two five live. WHO KNOWS MAYBE ANNEX T? Maybe maybe they'll beyond raw. Maybe that'll be detecting champions. Who knows but the boys have made it to the performance center? So I'm happy for them and the entire Dalton Castle family Those are the cummings comings and goings. Is that apparently right before. I sat down to record this on Sunday Sing Kara has officially been granted his release from. WWe Me you remember a sink. Kara was one of the many who announced publicly. They requested their release. I think Thai dellinger was the first one to do it and he got his release. Luke Harper requested his release. He's in purgatory Mike Canales requested his release purgatory. Sorry Saint Kara requested his release purgatory for a little bit. And now it's been given so view things to talk about here. Number one is the second time. Singapore has actually been released. The original Sin Kara Mystical he was released in one of those sort of mass mass releases. Where everybody goes at once they get rid of six or seven guys and just trim the fat I think But you know he was one of those has guys that had just I think he was. He was triple H is one of his first projects before annex. T was really a thing back when before. BEF- before semi Zane or Fin Ballard Kevin Owens or any of those guys sing Kara which one of the first guys that and that was at a time time when people would make a name for themselves but it was almost badly. You made too much of a name for yourself. This is ironic. You never hear about this today. But it wasn't that long ago is less than ten years ago that if you made a real name for yourself on the independence outside of wwe. It almost lessened your chances of getting to wwe and if you did get to wwe you would disappear for a while and come back in and completely new form Seth rollins did not debut in. WWe until everybody had forgotten about tyler. Black and I don't mean everybody forgot. Obviously we still remember Tyler back but you know what I mean like when Seth rollins debuted it was as if it was a new character. Not Not Tyler. Black is here. Same thing with Dean Ambrose Jon Moxley was for day John Moxie his last match and he disappeared for a longtime before dean. Ambrose popped up now even when they changed the names they pop up right away. It's very very similar. And sometimes the names aren't changed. Kevin Owens Avenue that that was Kevin Steen Thin Ballard. Devitt you know the whole thing then. You've got shins get more at. Aj Styles. You got all these Samoa Joe now if you can create a buzz is wwe does bring you in the back then. It didn't happen so often so sing. Carl is one of the first people that happened for and it just didn't workout for a variety of reasons You know I think that Sincari didn't end up adapting too much to WWe's style and and therefore he ended up not being able to have great matches with all that many people because he would wrestle this like Super Lucia style but there aren't that many people in WWe w. e.. That can do that. And when you get past having exhibition matches and it's time to you know enter into the world of big pay per view stuff you gotta find a dancing dancing partner. And they did they brought in a guy named who Nico and Sincari versus who Nico was a was a big thing. It was I it was in Carl was injured and then Sincari came back but it turned out. It was a fixing Caro's and Karna grow in Sankara Negro. Oh Ed to be unmasked. And that turned out to be who Nico so who Nico and who need go razzle-dazzle Unico for a while. There's a Mattel figure of him in his. You know jeans and tank top and whatever sin. Kara ends up getting released after all of this and by the way I should clarify. I'm looking at the discord right now. Date W. E. Front row. Says I think the boys gotta try out. I don't think they have been signed. Yeah I was talking about the people came into the performance center for a tryout. I you know. I don't think any of that group has been signed nine. They just made a big deal of all the people that came in for tryouts. That's all but Dalton Castle is not in the performance center. I just mean that they made it. That's why I said. They made it to the performance center. Because that's the first step right so who go ends up becoming sin car they go. Hey remember when you played Sincari or a Negro well. What have you were just seeing Kara? So this version of seeing car is actually the second sing car. And he's asking for his release and you know I don't really necessarily blame him. I don't know how much I like the asking me for your release and then making public statement about it you know and I don't no that really makes a difference could make a difference negatively to tell you the truth But I think that I get why Cigar Garwood ask for his release. He hasn't really done much lately. He came back recently. You know it's interesting because he came back recently to have a match with and draw Friday on raw and they made a big deal about him returning and they gave him a female counterpart and they did a whole thing. And I guess that's still was not enough maybe listen Kara or who Nico or or however he's going to exist outside of. WWe just feels like there's more form outside but he was granted his release. I wonder if this means they'll be another wave. If other guys who maybe are not being used or Vassar their release or whatever it is we'll be granted their releases. I just wanted to button here because as I was finishing the editing of this podcast the tweet came out the. WWE has also come to terms arms on the release of Luke Harper. So I would imagine you know. We were theorizing What was going to happen? There would Luke Harper after seeing Kara. And I I would imagine that this means that WWE has decided that you know. They're they're ready to release some of these guys. I would think Mike Analysis Analysis GonNa be next on the list by the time you're hearing this. He probably already has been released. And I wouldn't be shocked if there are a couple of other people on that list. Okay just wanted to added that in so I didn't sound like a total idiot back to what we were saying before we add Alberto versus Tito Ortiz. Alberto Burto del Rio tapping out Tito Ortiz. One himself Alberto's replica. WWe championship but it was really weird to see burt. Oh del Rio. Defending a replica. WWe championship because he once held the title wasn't even the title that he held. It was a replica of that title but Tito Ortiz want it. So I guess if Alberto's don't want to have that on the mantle he's going to have to shell out another three hundred fifty bucks or whatever and then you've got speaking of titles for Walter. I don't know if you went to Long Horn steakhouse or what it was but apparently the WWe UK championship was stolen. It sounds like the way I read it. Walter was in Chicago in a rental car. Somebody smashed the windows broken into the rental car and they stole Walters Championship in boots. Listen if you're out there right now and you're listening to this podcast and you'll have you've a UK championship and a big old pair of boots. They don't belong to you. You need to return them right away. Now they are not your property. They belong to Walter Walter. Needs them and if you don't want to turn them to Walter please please reach out to me. I will buy them off. You can probably work something out. I would love to have walters. WWe UK championship. And I would never. Here's how you know I wouldn't you out because I would never retell anybody I had it. But that's the second option. The first option is do the right thing. Return Walter stuff. I Guess Timothy Thatcher who's an independent wrestler. Got His stuff stolen to same way in a rental car. So I don't know man. That's a real bummer. To knowing to somebody would go and take it. You know you wanna go like who would take a championship but realistically I mean if you're robbing a car and you have somebody's legit championship in the back. Seat belt. Heavyweight champion is a very rare item. These are the jewels from the belt. You know I think that I think that you'd have to grab it especially since that. UK Championships. Oh gorgeous looking. I'm sure they're gonNA have a replacement. I'm sure they already have a replacement ready. But it's just annoying. You do wonder if at some point it'll ever pop up. You know maybe the Guy who robbed the car doesn't really realize what he has but if he doesn't realize what he has I doubt he would keep it. He would probably try to sell it. Maybe it ends up in some pawn shop or something and then a collector stumbles bulls in there and finds it realize what it is grabs it who knows it could end up somewhere. Hopefully you'll end up back around the race of waste of Walter where belongs but poor Walter. It's not even like he lost it. You know he got stolen from him. It's not right and I do want to say congrats to a matthew over Bochum. Ania Matthew just completed the four hundredth episode of Bochum Mania. I have been watching Bochum Mania sense sense I mean I don't even know I would. Maybe I'll look it up right now. When did Bochum menial one come out? Because I just I love Botch Amenia for those. That don't know this kid matthew. I guess he's not a kid anymore. It's been doing this for so long. But Matthew He is H- Larry Lewis. Is this hilarious. This British wit about him where he knows exactly what's funny and wrestling and also puts in a whole bunch of video games in Simpson's references which are hilarious. But gotcha mania is exactly what it sounds like. It's the original longest running episodic botch compilation. In all of the Internet botch Amina was started I mean I see this post from twenty eleven but Okay okay so here's the history of the first three Bochum means we're not actually uploaded by Matthew. The original videos are made quite poorly featuring some recent botches but missing some classic moments after his first youtube account it was deleted. Matthew re uploaded the first botch Ameinias as a compilation. This was mainly due to Matthew's own rules of not including videos that weren't botches like the rock. Doom ric flair trademark mark walk or including clips with career ending or serious injuries. Okay that makes sense. It doesn't say what the date is but matthew came along. Ah Bochum Mania number four and just completely changed the game and has made one of the longest running running funniest things on the Internet in forever. You know and I loved it like. He's never hasn't stopped that you would think did at some point. This would stop and he never has he just keeps putting out new videos and everyone gets better. I hope he does it for the rest of his life. They are so great and you know you hear like people go. You know. I wanted to keep doing this for you but it takes a lot of time and I'm I'm not making any money doing it and and it's really tough and but come on do it for the love of the game. That's why you started it right. You started doing this stuff for the love of the game so keep doing it for the love of the game. And that's what Matthew is doing. Matthew never sold out matthew just maintained ever the last ten years has done four hundred or I guess three hundred ninety six of the funniest things on the Internet. So you're not watching Bochum Mania Gotten Watch it you can find me on a couple of them. McAfee made big number four hundred because he called Ripley Rea- Shipley absolutely lutely I was going to. DM Matthew if he didn't put McAfee on the four hundred Bochum alien say you missed McAfee. But he didn't miss him of course he didn't miss him he's matthew he doesn't miss a thing love it. I'm so happy so tonight Monday night. Raw as far as as this taping goes. We've only had two things and now it's it's going to be a j styles versus. I almost said Ray j styles. It's going to be by the way that Ray j interview this week we broke his glasses as you said they were unbreakable and then the hosts Stanton happy goes. I don't care he's great. It's great just psychotic. It's thirty minutes of madness. I love it but it's not a wrestling thing. But it's great take a J styles versus Rey. Mysteriously United States Championship is on the line just getting that rematch. Clearly this match is going to lead to is something at TLC whether that's a lumberjack match whether that's a cage match whether that's a I think I think it'd be awesome to do a TLC because you you only have one TLC match announced you could theoretically if you're gonNA go set the rollins versus Kevin's you could do. A cabinet owns seth rollins. TLC L.. Semaj I would love to see. Aj Styles Ray mysterious TLC match. It seems like Ramos Stereo since his brock lessner story is just jumped on a surfboard. And riding this this wave and I'm here for it. I WANNA see a TLC METRO AJ styles versus Ramos. Stereo would be in my humble opinion. Incredible we've also got the big divorces happening russa versus Bobby Lashley in an I mean Roosevelt. An Lana in a divorce. I guess it's rousseff versus Bobby Lashley because Russo. Lashley's picking up those sloppy seconds but again like the divorce is finally going to happen. Lana said she wants it. Roosevelt said he's fine with it. Good let's get a divorce. I don't know what they're fighting about anymore. And then once they do get a divorce then what are they fighting about. I don't know I would imagine the divorce is not going to happen. Happen because there's GonNa be a restraining order or something like that but then maybe we'll find out. Lashley skipped bail after he got arrested for not doing anything. I don't know I just hope that this matter gets settled they have a match at TLC and we go into two thousand twenty with a clean slate. That's all we WANNA do is going to twenty twenty with a clean slate later this month. We're going to be doing. I'm thinking maybe the last week of the year we do kind of a year end wrapup on on Monday and then do a decade and wrap up on Thursday. That's in a week or two every two weeks so we'll start getting your e mails in now for that stuff not Sam wrestling g mail dot com and you can be included. Also this week as wrestling's going on just shoot me emails males not sam wrestling at gmail.com and I will answer them here on the podcast. The Thursday edition Thursday. Not Sam Thursday. Today we will see you then. Thanks again everybody goodbye. Thanks for listening. Follow low at Salem on twitter Instagram facebook and you to review and subscribe. This has been the SAM wrestling.

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I had a surprise trip ahead ahead a lot of things going on at the moment I was about to record something happened outside of the wrestling world. I know I know nobody cares who's listening to this but <hes> Russell Westbrook got traded to the to the <hes> Houston Rockets and as the director of the Ringer Dot Com. I suddenly had to swing an action. We did record pieces of an episode but the episode was sort of lost to history so maybe maybe that will resurface someday because there are some some some little tiny anything that I I like the whole lot anyway. Burn the down and a universal lot fire. Someday we can only hope and that's Jim is Jim is like pulling on a lighter right now jim. How're you doing good thank you how are you? I know you watched a lot of wrestling wrestling this week because <hes> somebody you or somebody nobody else has the log into my W._b.. Network account and there was a lot of half watched wrestling that suddenly was in my in my queue. That's me half watch wrestling gym. That's that's going to be your new. Here's what I want to talk about this week. We've had a lot of wrestling. We had an evolved special event. We had <hes> A._W._S.. Fight for the fallen <hes> the last of their kind of pre primetime <hes> big events. I don't mean I guess I don't even know I don't mean primetime like launch their show. I mean like this is the last year of warm up to their having before I think we have to start considering them full-fledged and everything else and then we add W._w._e.. Extreme rules which was a huge event <hes> sort of that's they're they're getting ready. They're warm-up show for a summer slam <hes> and it ended up setting the stage for a lot of what is going to come in Toronto in the month of August for them. <hes> so basically I want to talk about all of these different things raw smackdown eighty w even a little little bit of evolves we can even talk about the G. One although I don't know how much of that you've been watching <hes> it's what I've seen has been fantastic. Yeah I mean I don't sit and watch every second of every match because that's craziness but I I I watched the show. Yes I think that I mean this is not a new or earth changing idea but it is really really cool to see how you can tell stories in wrestling matches and in a tournament setting and have them those stories be somehow more compelling than you know what we normally think of in W._W._e.. Terms as stories you know the the outside of the ring silliness that goes on did make these matches happens. Sometimes the matches just happened and the matches of the stories <hes> but I do want to start with the biggest news of the week and that is we have a new Oh w._w._e.. Universal champion I heard of him. You might be familiar with this guy. You might have actually seen him not too long ago. Holding that Universal Championship Belt Brock Listener is back folks. He cashed in his money in the bank briefcase <hes> and and in came <hes> entered the ring after the Seth Ron's and becky lynch verses <hes> Barron Corbin Lacey Evans Mixed tag team match and Demolish Death Ron's pinned him one the belt <hes> I wrote about it this week. I was so moved <hes> that I thought it just had something had to be written. It brought the brought my fingers back to the keyboard. It's kind of amazing to me. You tell me what you think any. I mean my my first reaction. was you know brock listener winning. The title is never surprising but it did feel like a an answer in search of a question right like is the what what what should we learn. What what should we have learned from brock listener winning? Is it that he he might be the solution Sobat ratings is it that the Seth Ron experiment has been deemed a failure is it that they just WanNa have Brooklyn or holding the belt at Summer Slam is at you know some portion of all of the above what what was your initial gut reaction when that happened last I read her column which by the way I personally would have had landed beast infection but that's just me I I enjoyed all of your all of your putting <hes> of course throughout the article I would say the latter notion so you just mentioned rings true with that it might just be best to have him having the bill at Summer Slam and not think too deeply into it <hes> I really with ambivalent about it to to be perfectly honest. I kind of I wasn't you know outraged. I wasn't shocked. I wasn't moved too much periods. I just sort of accepted it on its face because like you said it's never surprising when brock listener becomes comes the main event so I i I really hesitate to read too much into what people are thinking. In terms of whether the <hes> Seth rollins can be the guy or we're not <hes> I I mean I hate to be sort of Boyd on this issue. I just I'm just waiting and seeing I. I think that's fair and I don't think I think that we have been cast into avoid and that's you know that's describes where we all are. I mean listen one thing that we know now that I didn't know when I wrote the piece was that South Ron's will be the challenger for the title at Summer Slam <hes> and one of the ideas I floated was I mean this sounds sort of reductive but like maybe they're just going to run it back. Maybe they think that like maybe it's sort of a do over for rollins. Maybe it's a just a an internal. <hes> you know truism that like you want your you want the baby face to be working underdog at the big show. You know I mean I. There's a lot of I mean none of that is like the right answer but all those early but there's like potential answers <hes> but yeah I think that listen. It's a big it's GonNa pop is going to get people's attention when anybody cashes in the briefcase. <hes> it's a and it's going to get a lot of you know a lot casual attention <hes> I think when brock listener is on screeners you know is looming and I think that probably it is doing it this way having him cash in the belt I mean cash in the briefcase win. The belt generates rates more hype than just a than if they just giving someone else the briefcase done the listener versus Ron's rematch summer slam come to be out of the luxury of thinking you know insular -Ly have to think about what is going to create the most headlines what is going to create news outside of just the world of wrestling commentary <hes> especially now that they're going to be kind of building anticipation for not just one of their biggest pay per views of the year but their last cornerstone paper view of the year before eighty w launches in earnest <hes> so yeah I think he might be hitting on something there that it really might just be a matter of <hes> you know of making the news yeah I think I think that one thing that brock is always had rock has a lot of things going for him. He has like I mentioned before the kind of mainstream appeal the crossover appeal he has as we've learned from various sources says of late he has and this is maybe a news but it's been confirmed that Vince McMahon has a has a specific fascination with him for whatever reason that he just kind of wants to own him and put him out there as his Andre the giant basically he this is this is the supernatural force that is property of you know Vincent K Mcmahon and you put those positions so there's that's part of it <hes> and then at yeah and then he all he is proven incredibly <hes>. I don't adept is the right word because I don't know how much of it is Brooklyn doing but he but he would he. He is one of the best recurring surprises that W._W._e.. Has Available Rate I mean when he pinned the undertaker. That was the biggest crossover moment they'd had a long time. You know in every time he every time he pops up articles. Get written. It seems like and this is a good you know. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there gonNA waiting for something to write about him now. <hes> so yeah I mean I. I'm not sure that it's the biggest moment omen W._w.. History especially now that we know sets is going to be fighting at Summer Slam <hes> but you know it was a it was it was a big moment on <hes> and you know a funk a very functional surprise on Sunday night and Seth rollins. This has made very clear in his actions and his words <hes> offline and online on screen that he's really the new team player. I mean in some senses he's comparable to Sinoe or even a MS in that way. He's he's. He's going to do what's best. Ask for the company and if that means <hes> you know that brock is what people are talking about the Monday morning after extreme rules as long as he then gets his you know his rematch at summer slamming. He's in the main event for one of the four biggest shows of the year. You know that's aw that's possibly the <hes> the bargains willing to strike yeah well. That's not the only a couple of things one that that sort of was the icing on the cake for better or worse because I mean honestly that got a lot of mixed reactions especially within the diehard Internet wrestling community fan base and people. I don't think we're particularly excited to see brought back with the belt. <hes> we are all sort of exhausted by the Brook Championship by the time it was over but for better worse that was the icing on the cake of what otherwise we'd be talking about is a pretty great w we pay per view. I mean that that probably would have been the lead story the other week to just like look at all these big things all these good matches. There wasn't a standout like five star classic <hes> but there's a lot of good stuff that I was but like every every time every everytime match ended I sort of already forgotten that two matches ago I was like jotting down notes about how good the match was yeah the very deep bench right now when people when the guys are all healthy and it might have been a mistake for Awa to be so audacious has to schedule this not real pay per view event virtually side by side with <hes> in event. That's become incre- of increasingly the <hes> of increasing importance scheduling wise to W._W._e.. Because it was pretty striking the contract was pretty striking. Look you know eight WS talent looked <hes> or roster felt comparatively narrative of thin and their <hes> creative options had sort of exhausted themselves much quicker in <hes> in the course of planning by full and I think that would w._W._e.. Had and its arsenal so actually they made it might have been W._W._f.. Service in that in that sense the contrast and yeah I mean look at anytime ricochet and A._J.. Style of Alastair Black Zero and guys like that are going at it <hes> they have to continue to find ways to make those kind of matchups happen and a and without being redundant and that's their challenge there was a big contrast and we're going to talk about a w in just a bit but I wanna run through. Make sure we get to everything in a run through the extreme rules card what we're GONNA touch on. We're all these things are headed and kind of what I'm most interested this week since we're are you on the downhill slope towards W._W._e.. Summer Slam. Everybody's really excited about going to Toronto by the way everybody that I talked to. I don't think I'LL BE GOING TO TORONTO. I will never go be going to Toronto probably because you're a criminal and they don't let you cross the border fats correct but but we have that we like you said W.. Fight for the fall in the last of their sort of non big show shows <hes> and now we're setting the store setting the table for the T._N._t.. Show the weekly show and in in all out there next gigantic pay per view or I guess it's a pay per view spectacular <hes> so yeah. There's a there's a lot of jockeying for position going on right now and I just kind of wanted to break it all down and see who's in position who's in a better position now. <hes> as we record this on Wednesday afternoon then they were a week ago a month ago <hes> who's GonNa who who who's GonNa be who's kind of rounding the corner earn towards you know this next big the big wrestling fall that we have ahead of us with a lot of steam <hes> starting with extreme rules one of the big surprise tonight actually came in the very beginning of the night before a lot of people were watching when Shuki Nakimora beat Fin Ballard for the icy championship word came out shortly afterwards Ballard asked for some time off it always seems very ominous when you see that headline but it seems like he just kind of want to take a month or two off between between Summer Slam and survivor survivor series or something just to recharge his batteries <hes>. I don't know what do what do you what do you think about the Nakimora era vic- title. I think it's overdue Nakimora becomes a you know multi time multi title. Thank you know presence W._W._e.. So at least if and when his time ends you know we can look look back and say <hes> it. You know it was not for not I didn't have to be perfectly honest. You know I'm at this point become customary Mary for me to not necessarily tune in in real time to the to the kickoff show. Maybe this is a way of just you know <hes> holding US further captive for future pay per view that we are compelled to watch every kickoff show <hes> as far as Ballard taking time off that makes sense because I was thinking if you're going to enter into something in earnest with Bray Wyatt now but <hes> some of that didn't yeah so he was Patsy for a lame duck for that we got I mean. I think that we're GONNA see Mike. If I had to guess I would say it say we're GONNA have Nakimora <hes> you know defending the belt going forward obviously and then Baylor is going to be is going to be the punching bag for Bray Wyatt <hes> for this first month and maybe we'll see see you know return survivor series time to have a little demon versus Bray Wyatt showdown or something to that effect yeah. That's that's very possible disappear into smoke. After this week I mean or he might just pull out that would mean for all we know because the demon <hes> you know is is a little bit <hes> less mystical after his last appearance than than he was before so maybe the demon will pop up. I mean we'll just go and wrestle at summer slamming and he'll get he'll. He'll he'll take his first L.. As the demon obviously <hes> right there's a lot of opportunities there <hes> but but now's a good time as any talk about it <hes> Bray Wyatt's back baby Bray Wyatt in full like a you know mid to mid-twenties tens joker garb with his skin pulled across his face and leather jackets striped pants green looking dreadlocks well I mean it was awesome to see him. It was a great appearance and it was cool to see him back back. He looks like he's in great shape. I feel like I say this every time. Somebody pops up. What was your what was your takeaway from Monday nights? <hes> I mean yeah Monday nights return of Bray Wyatt my biggest takeaway was that he's in great shape what she's looked in great shape persons previewing coming back <hes> <hes> but that's that goes a long way toward reintroducing somebody now otherwise I don't know from the waist down. He looked like a member of Gogol Bordello from the waist up you know from the waist up. He had some like yeah kind of aw hot topic Halloween blow out kind of thing happening I so that's me a jaded adulthood like in separate you know reality non reality and horror from from dress up but I wouldn't was not willing to let my son watch it so obviously going in some kind of that's I mean that's too dark for your son well. That's a whole narrative into unto itself but really the last few weeks have been other to darker to <hes> <hes> profane or or or or you know too provocative for me to feel like I can now let my son continue to watch it so they're clearly moving away post this heyman announcement if he's not fearing things yet away from the P._G.. The era that's a whole other thing but boy maybe the biggest test of that and <hes> it'd be interesting to see if they throw their <hes> their lot in with <hes> with whatever his success might be in appealing to to <hes> more mature audience yeah. I think that's true. It's it is an interesting test case but there's always been the you know attention in all walks of life about you know our American children seem to be watching Gore movies at the age of four and but you know they can't see a bare chest until other eighteen or whatever so there I mean I guess all that is to say that there's a lot of there's a lot of <hes> storytelling devices that Paul Heyman and W in the attitude era employed that that will probably be more problematic than just bray white being frightening <hes> on a broader utter scale but yes oh yeah it would just give him nightmares. I think that's right. I don't think it'll be it'll be interesting. <hes> you know the whole thing to see where they go. Listen Bray Wyatt for years has been he's not a failure is not the right word for it but he's he's sort of been the litmus test for like the the hell. W._W._e.'s creative is going you know when when Bray wide is really clicking it seems like things go okay overall. You know say what you will about the John Cena era writ large but like their inability ability to make him work over the past several years I mean injuries notwithstanding has kind of become a symbol for you know they're created this function and a lot of ways <hes> and now he's back. He's got a whole new reboot when he's got the you know the weight of the company behind him. This feels like a must win situation almost but not to make it sound so dire. I think he's GonNa get all the opportunity in the world but I think that he's you know this is. This is a big moment for him but for the company overall and I don't think this needs to be about championships. I think that's a big that's been been one of the problems with braves when it felt like it was all or nothing if he doesn't become champion soon than he's a failure it was missed construing <hes> What what made him potentially so special to now this is just about him you know just absolutely <hes> menacing and stalking and harassing <hes> competition for for months <hes> you know I really I don't I'm not I don't even think title aspiration should enter into the picture because that instantly makes him sort of more mortal which was one of the issues in the first place when he was supposed to be this <hes> omniscient. You know Boogeyman yeah I almost. I wrote a piece into by that I mean I started writing the lead for a piece <hes> a couple of weeks ago actually about how the quest the and this is more of a fan side thing than W._w._e.. Side things no one has ever said it out loud but the quest to find find the next undertaker has actually become an become one of the great boondoggles in pro wrestling history. <hes> and I think that that is hampered Bray Wyatt more than anything else I mean it's one thing to be like yeah. He slides into that role in a couple of fronts but like what made the undertaker taker undertaker was much more than being spooky. You know we're having supernatural abilities or <hes> even being a wrestlemainia mainstay. It was just it was it was a level of charisma and longevity in institutional. <hes> just couldn't control of the of the entire institution of W._W._f.. W._W._e. that that <hes> that it took a long time from become the undertaker you don't get to be assigned the role of the undertaker like you can be assigned the role of scrappy underdog <hes> but but it's affected him and I think you know hopefully it doesn't affect <hes> ouster black who will talk about soon and you know I mean there was a part of me that was watching on Sunday and I was just like are we just been missing this altogether and the the next undertaker as painful as hard as it's going to be some people here is the next undertaker the guy that was tag teaming tagging with him on Sunday. I mean as the next undertaker just Roman reigns. Is he going to be the guy holding down wrestlemanias for the next decade well in in in that comparison you could compare Roman reigns to other people not just the undertaker because he'll be undertake. It's all about those intangibles and the aura so if you're talking strictly about the person who's been holding down the main events of mania you could you could ben again. You know be comparing Roman reigns to John Cena or whoever <hes> I see your point I see your point. It's I think super literal and saying the next is he the next undertaker character <hes> but I liked what you were tr I liked when the point you were making about them trying to find the next undertaker in terms of that <hes> that character that just is <hes> unknowable until he's utterly knowable but nothing has long vaccinating yeah I mean listen for wrestling as a long rich history of Gimmick Swiping of you know all kinds of just pseudo replacements for different for different performers guide territorial alarium moves down the road. You can just find guy that sorta like him to take his spot. If you really you know if he was doing well and you wanted to keep that going <hes> ric flair I mean everybody remembers nature. Boy Buddy Lendl's being fake ric flair but ric flair ripped his style style from a lot of people that came a forum not least nature boy buddy Rogers and <hes> you know there's it's okay to it's it's wrestling has there's a lot of guys who were the next fill in the blank and wrestling that have been successful but this is a different era and this is a whole different search but anyway going back to the extreme rules. Oh I did want to say one thing about Nakimora before we get all the way off of it which is a lot of people were wondering why he resigned but w w when he was a free agent and I think the answer that sort of became conventional wisdom is he just sort of liked his quality of Life Breath and he likes surfing and he likes you know whatever he he's. He's you know being being the Michael Jordan of pro wrestling is not necessarily the number one priority for him I think but I also think that there's something really I mean Ah W._W._e.. Argument against it is that he'd been wasted by W._B.. For All this time but I think especially in the W era there's going to be some people like the revival to get these giant pushes to convince him to stay but there's going to be even more people that only get pushes when they resign you know and because you have to have the certainty that they're going to be around and and maybe we're seeing a little bit of that that kind of reward system with Nakimora getting the belt so what you're saying w just plays a game of chicken with personnel. I think that that's possible. We have a lot of matches to get through here so I'm just going to start tearing through these things and I don't want to talk about everything. Do you WanNa talk about Roman reigns and I just mentioned it and Shane and the undertaker versus Shane McMahon drew McIntyre. I thought this was a really fun match. I thought that undertaker looked great and especially considering the last time we saw him. <hes> and Roman reigns look good shaming man and good and drew McIntyre putting the great category as well. I think that if we end up with the undertaker drew McIntyre showdown at summer slammer it <hes> Wrestlemainia can you even I think that I mean I I was buying into drew McIntyre over the course of that match. I I will not disagree about basically everything you just said but we know how I feel about a certain combatant in that particular alert match and then Yeah Yeah and you can imagine my disappointment when he inserted himself immediately and things again you know at the outset of smackdown whatever <hes> yes I think that match serve a higher purpose which was <hes>. Let's you talked before about essentially <hes> rolling things back with violence. Come resetting or what have you. I think there might have been almost a reset or redoing of the moment between these two a few mess wrestlemanias ago. Where now is the crowd? The fans were ready for undertake a pass that torch and they did it with a little subtle gesture this time it wasn't as grandiose as him. Leaving is <hes> you know his wardrobe in the center of the ring like the melted wicked witch of the West was <hes> you know it was the traditional little little done good pat on the chest and some we were ready for it and now that's closure sometimes the pound the chest is more is more significant than than going out than than lying down for somebody right because <hes> even though we all know that wins and losses don't really matter in the real world I mean as as wrestling relates to reality <hes> we still have to deal with the pain of watching the undertaker lose and that rubs off negatively on his opponent in this case Roman reigns ends at Wrestlemania match sometimes just having a little the the old guy young guy tag team gets a lot of that work done without the ill will bingo you mentioned shaming man you mentioned his his opening the show on on Tuesday. I will say this. The first time I ever saw Kevin Owens at that point obviously known as Kevin Steen I went to a ring of honor show I think the Hammerstein ballroom and he was like in the ring getting fired and cutting appro getting fired by Jim Cornell cutting a Promo uh-huh coming back from being fired by Jim Cornet but anyway just like pipe-bombing Jim Cornet basically and my reaction like so many other idiots <hes> who were not following ring of honor religiously the time was like who is this fancy and punk wannabe <hes> and it was only after that that you know I I saw I actually got into him as a wrestler and I was I think in the exact same venue to see his ladder war with L. Generic which is still one of my favorite matches of all time I saw him in that same venue getting <hes> I mean I saw him SUPLEX <HES> <hes> Steve Carino off of the top rope onto a guardrail which I was the closest thing I've ever seen to public murder <hes> and <hes> utterly utterly fell in love with the guy and his work W._W._e.. has in a lot of ways been superior <hes> than some of the stuff that I saw I just think not maybe not superior but he's excelled on the big stage to a degree that no one at least I would never have guessed some guys just have that that that that thing but the whole point is that I the first thing I said was you know when I saw him was seeing punk related and now <hes> say what you will about Shane Mcmahon but the story just like when seeing punk started staring down John Cena at least the story is now that none of us like Shane McMahon and that was kind of the story of seeing Pumpkins Sina and that made Sina a more viable character yeah right right right. You think that can work. Do you think that will work for Shane as much as you dislike. I think it's a good way to kind of end that chapter of of this era W._w._e.. Like you know the same way that there was more satisfying closure what happened with take on rains time for wrestlemania thirty three. I think this <hes> be as opposed to the idea being that Shane supposed to give other people the rob or something you know the idea that we leave him on a note where he I felt like he was there for a reason and then life carries on I I'm okay with that. You know rather than necessarily just cutting the court abruptly you can't put it back in the box. You know this this this horses out of the bar and all those cliches I just I think sometimes when it comes down to with Shane for me is I don't actually think he's and I'm not talking about his commitment to the in ring. You know athletics. I'm talking about just as a performer overall. I don't think he's a great performer and so it just takes me out of things and stupid sneakers and it's stupid coats and his profuse sweating and his giant neck and all okay I don't I don't what can I say <music>. I'm not a fan. I don't know why I know that like many fans. I have a kind of a bizarre fascination with with gang warfare SORTA than I am. I just really like when <hes> I just like I liked it. When Elias popped up on Sunday Sunday is just the point that we kind of decided? He probably wasn't part of the stable anymore but now he is I just I part of me just want Shane to get a stable together of like five or six guys and they're all just like long haired guys like long haired white guys with beards and just like ashamed clearly has a look that he's going for but he refuses to admit it and maybe that becomes the joke they call it. The SHANECO pack okay well worth. It was worth everything anyway just get Tony. Nissan smackdown is what I'm saying and make him part of that but anyway I I think it'll be interesting to see where they go with this. I mean I think where they're going is sort of obvious but it's it'll be fun. You know to see where we're going. The other obvious evocation here is don't go Boston and Chains Dad Vince <hes> the fact that the that <hes> Owens is using the stunner now on the regular is a as you know it seems to be feel like no coincidence <hes> right and you know if the degree to which they have allowed us to hate Shane McMahon <hes>. If this was the goal it's been successful and we are all going to be very excited to see Kevin Owens. Get this rub of you know showing Shane the door summer slammer you know whenever that comes to pass. I guess there could be you know it could would be harmless and it's mutual. <hes> you know benefits to both both sides. Although I know that there has been some consternation among some of the Internet wrestling community that Champagne and Kevin O. is but one of several storylines that is essentially has recycled itself from two years ago at this point even though even though the circumstances album Bryan Alvarez or somebody laid it all out it literally like every like Oliver storylines exactly where they were two and a half years ago which is fine. I mean as more of a blip than anything else but <hes> I said that my piece this week I mean there's W._w._e.. Likes nothing more than mulligans like when they get when they when they're just like you know what we never really did. We never really we never really got Roman reigns that wrestlemainia moment. We thought he deserves so let's just let's just re book it. You know let's just do it again. And <hes> you know maybe they had some good ideas from two years ago with Shane Kevin owns they haven't they haven't gone through with yet and listen. I mean I think that the big takeaway if we wanted it. Let's take the positive spin on this is that Kevin Owens is getting this shot right. Kevin Owens is going to be the last guy that stares down Shane McMahon if the story goes the way that we think it's going to go you know Kevin. No one's getting this big. Kim Jones is is is now officially in the in the the main event guy who doesn't need a title territory that you were talking about earlier and I think that's a real positive for him and for us as fans right. So how do you keep this up without him. Having to play the the hero in the most mundane mundane senses the question one's life news on from an easy target like shh like Shane. It'll be interesting. I think that if there's anything you know remains to be seen how much control the bishops and an Heyman are going to have but I think that if there were one thing that you hear fans talking about for the fans argument forever that that you know a a powerful <hes> new new couple of powerful new voices on the creative side Ed could really put over is the idea that we're we don't really need faces in heels in the traditional sense anymore <hes> obviously they still exist for storytelling purposes and whatever else but like you know Kevin owns the sort of guy that doesn't need to be kissing babies when he's a baby face in <hes> <hes> he doesn't need to be you know drawing blood when he's a he'll he's just Kevin Owens and I think that <hes> you know he's whatever rub he gets from this. We'll just kind of allow him to continue. Being the sort of voice of I mean Gene Voice of the voiceless I guess is taken but he's he's just sort of you know the current straight talker straight shooter in W._W._e.. And I think that that's I think that's a you know an important role. I mean talking about the undertaker and various other archetypes that need to be constantly. Roles need to be filled. <hes> you know the Brash loud mouth is one of the biggest roles that modern pro wrestling needs you know I'm I'm hopeful that this will help propel him as as much as it will sort of close the book on the Shane McMahon era of W._W._e.. Kevin Owens can can come out of this with the the name Kevin Owens <hes> standing apart just kind of having this cachet that you know hearing the name Steve Austin or Dana Brian did apart from <hes> how they're contextualized within what's happening in W._W._e.. World at that moment and that's a big deal friend. It's true the revival Usoz <hes> I'm sure we'll see more of that going. Non Ouster Black finally re debuted and Beats Azzaro in a ten minute match. That was just fantastic. They ran it back on smackdown. It was pretty good there but <hes> man I could see watch those two guys Russell every night of the week and I would tune in for it <hes> <hes> that was a whole lot of fun. <hes> Bailey. I guess somewhat surprisingly prevailed over Nikki Crossing Alexa Bliss. I say surprisingly because it seemed like the storyline going forward is going to be about Nikki Crossing Alexa Bliss <hes> and now Bailey is going to be as a I mean said literally said the words my the Alexa Bliss chapter is closed and she's moving onto imber moon as her opponent summer slam which is cool for Ember Moon if a little bit lacking in the storytelling department but hey I was the guy just extolling the virtues of entering storytelling telling a la the G. One bronze Roman and Bobby Lashley that was fun. <hes> the ending I thought was enormous was a great idea. That was just a just ridiculously bad executional. Though I know mileage may vary a lot of people seem to really like it but I just don't understand stand the premise of the body slam from the from the rafters or whatever being obscured immediately opponent beginning. It's the does that make any sense what they immediately fell into darkness if the fall had literally been three feet if they had we like presumably the cushions that they landed on like fifteen feet down but the way they had the whole thing set up the cushions could have been two feet down like like there was nothing like let them fall through the air on camera a little bit before they fall into you know cushioning darkness right I yeah I think that's an interesting <hes> very like sort of specific observation about it. I think just broadly speaking I think maybe they have <hes> kind of overplayed. The the <hes> you know slamming guy through you know through like stage setup through equipment setup off you know off stage left or whatever or in the stands I think maybe we maxed maxed out on that with Shane and and miss you know a few months ago. <hes> we all know it's it's stunt work at a ten trying to say and listen you can't always win up yourself but if they just reverse these spots if they had just had this be the spot for the setup and then had them go through the Titan tron Iran or whatever goes through the wall for this match brain walkaway victorious like that that might have been just better for everyone <hes> well. That's fair. I the ideas we're GONNA keep nothing. Holiday failed to do that here and also listen I don't I I'm the last person to ever call for anyone to be fired wrestlers but a particularly people that have <hes> you know workaday jobs anywhere but man whoever built that like barn fence and pretended that was part of the railing of the of the arena that Brown kicked open imagine I mean it didn't like there there was other parts of the railing right there next to it you could see what it was supposed to look like and what he kicked open was made out of wood like it was like spray painted like blanks of would it was that was ridiculous. Gillis don't hire whoever did that but ask them to reconsider review. Their Performance Review needs to touch on that that's all I'm saying I'm sure they'll what's the Eh next night. I actually thought the triple threat tag naturalists smackdown belt was really well done because I went in saying it had to be Otis in Tucker. That'd be heavy machinery winning not because I thought they were the most you know that they were the best necessary choice but necessarily the best choice but I thought that in order to legitimise is a fairly meagre smackdown tag team division they needed to be established as legitimate but they manage to establish them as legitimate I think in the course of that match and then put the belts on the new day anyway which led to that new day has all the belts moment we've been waiting for and also do the other half of my prediction which never made its error is the <hes> is that Daniel Bryan new to reset and I think we saw that kind of happening on Tuesday night business about him. Maybe going to a five live is that what's going on. Is that a rumor. That's okay let me rewind blindness so it was something that somebody mentioned to me on twitter last night and it didn't it didn't occur to me but then all of a sudden I had this something about. It felt vaguely familiar. Maybe I had seen that. That was a consideration yeah. I I don't know I don't know that's I'm going. I'm going off absolutely nothing solid here but I did think well. That'd be actually sort of brilliant if he was like I'm so you know if he was going to pull a billy Madison essentially uh-huh n._B._c. what pack pack slash Neville was in the two of five live roster before he you know before he abruptly part ways I have no. I don't nobody quote me on this. It's just something I heard hurt. I mean it would also probably behoove you know have a long standing bit about how I always thought to. If I would be better if it was two oh five and three or five live because the everybody's favorite matches little guys versus big guys and they leave out the most like the the middle chunk of the main roster but just have the big fat guys in the tall guys fighting little you know fighting Lucia doors that would be a great show <hes> no writer and Hawkins. They're never gonNA wrestling exactly you know. Roman reigns is no whatever just the just a little guys in the giant guys and then but this would actually leave that up that would open up the door for you know if Brian's there with Roman ruins and maybe not an official part of the roster but guys would could challenge into fights. You know it'd be like I'm tired of you interfering in my matches. Let's just do this and why couldn't that be onto five live on sanctioned or whatever <hes> well so. I'm doing it if he if you yeah this is all speculative but if he were to do that went to that show enrolling they're still as his muscle and they were blamed. People around that would be kind of amazing knowing that it would just be temporary. I this is big going off. Absolutely nothing solid well going off of nothing. I like we were going with it <hes> they do need to rebrand that show because it's gotten better and better and there's a lot of talent down there but I think it's still just hamstrung by the insinuation that it's like a you know weaker class performers and it sort of silly in in this day and age when like a solid third of the smackdown roster and some of the raw roster in like ninety percent of the next he roster probably get you know aren't aren't running out there more than two ten <hes> so you know I think that if man if they just called that evolve and like I said well mention evolve in a second but <hes> if they if they call that evolve or anything else it would just feel like a wonderful new world of pro wrestling opportunity anyway moving on speaking wonderful new worlds <hes> A._J.. Styles beat Ricochet <hes>. <hes> the club is a thing and they have a belt <hes> the U._S.. Championship belt to be precise <hes>. I like what they're doing man. I mean it's I guess this is the problem with the with the club you know as it evokes the bullet club in it evokes the wwl you will before it is that they're going to be dogged with fantasy booking about getting new members be it you know <hes> Thin Baylor said obviously with his history with those Kurt with that crew <hes> but even people are talking about ricocheted joining up with them and like I feel like every time I see deep sea mentioned online people are fantasy booking them and I think that unless they go the route of the end of you or they keep getting new members. That's just going to be what people talk about and they're just disappointed that it never happens. Am I create my overthinking this your look your more <hes>. You've got your ear to the around more of these things. I really didn't know that that's <hes> been people's you know wish for this or assumption about this. I just have taken pretty much at face value outside of wanting the fantasy of Finn Ballard it'd be involved somehow to come true <hes> whether as a rival or or you know a supreme ally. I don't know <hes> I <hes> mostly don't like the way it sounds when they call them the club. I'm not nitpicking or being sarcastic and I just it just it sounds like an it sounds like a knockoff of silica which is what it is you know and it sounds like it's cut off at the knees from being the bully club which is what it is not in its presence when they're out out there in the ring but in referring to it as that unless they're going to go all the way and just call to have them do a <hes> tandem finishing move with all three of them called the club sandwich but that's all right can't top that we're going to wrap up this scar Kevin owns over Dolphin talked about Kofi over there looks like or maybe steering towards Kofi versus <hes> versus Randy Orton after smackdown at summer slam which is a good sort of legitimizing match for Kofi <hes> but it seems like we've Kinda gone through. We'll be at the end of his legitimization. At that point. We need to figure out some more long-term storytelling for him. Quick comment that you know the the new day having all three belts thing I think it's a huge <hes> moment for them. Another another sort of <hes> <hes> inscription their legacy that now they transcend kinda stable centrally by having all those belts there beyond just being a three person tag team or Kofi and the two other guys now their dynasty. That's real and I think somebody say they don't at least some of the W._b.. Platforms Kofi he is referred to as a both a tag team champion Dan the W._b.. Champion because of the free brewed rules are perpetually in effect when it comes to the new day in the tax bill that's pretty awesome <hes> and then we talked about the Brooklyn your thing the main event with Seth Ron's and Becky Lynch overbearing Corbin unless you Evans I think the best thing about this for Seth Ron's and Becky Lynch is that <hes> the brock listener thing sort of subsumed the their their tag team union <hes> which I thought could only in badly for them or at least only in villainy for them. I don't you know if that's necessarily a bad thing but I I wrote this piece. I just don't think there's no track record for like that. Sort of those sorts of real life couples being baby faces onscreen except for I don't know Johnny Gargano I I mean it's just you can't be at the highest level. You can't be that good looking. You can't be the best at what you do and not have everybody just sort of roll their eyes at you. I just don't think it's possible. Maybe I'm just like. Maybe I'm too much of a hater thought I saw the new proposed that I really didn't know what uh-huh I really. I wasn't sure where leaned on it. I just I just don't really like I just think it's sort of childish when they start <hes> <hes> kind of stuff for me when real life boyfriend and girlfriend are teaming living together. I think they do what they did with the story was actually good. I think that the way that they told for most of what they did with Becky Lynch sort of you know slapping going after Corbin and just sort of like you know then sort of defending one another's honor and whatnot. I thought that was those stories are well told role that I just don't know I guess this is one of the stories that I would have preferred to just stay off screen. It can stay on W._B.. Social Media Account. I'm not trying. I'm not talking about K. saving at all but like does that really need to be your extreme rules main event. I don't think it's a question of me. I don't think it needed to be now through and said this is my piece to Barron. Corbin and Lacey Evans have taken a bunch of well-deserved flack from me but more so from others but man they both had defining moments in that match Baron Corbin when he <hes> attacked it's Becky Lynch and then pointed a fall fallen Seth Ron's in the corner and say what are you going to do about it you piece of Shit and which was just about credible that is bearing Corbin's highlight reel from now on <hes> and then Lacey Evans who had a really I mean Lacy Evans's who's <hes> you know I think was not quite ready for prime time when she got called up. I don't think anybody has any problem seeing what W._B._Z.'s in her <hes> but that doesn't necessarily work to her benefit both of them both Corbin n Evans have the vibe of you know. I guess the thing that makes a great he'll in the modern era which people thinking that like the front office is more into you than any of us fans are <hes> but Lacey Evans when she she you know has not always been a hundred percent in the ring that sometimes there've been some some bugs but when and she hit that moon saw that beautiful springboard moon salt and then came up with the bloody mouth which you already had but it was just grinned bloody smile to the to the camera that moment I thought I mean that that that was a moment that will stay with me forever and that's being to camera ready and it would just like Lynch was when she seized the opportunity to revel in her broken face and <hes> and maybe that Corbin line was an Improv or maybe directed to just let it fly because they've been doing that more off and on the the last few weeks <hes> but I always thought people have been a little tough on these he evans of late every didn't know why I will say that there's another case of you talking about the Mulligan thing where you know they kind of just read the even Marie I'm GonNa come out and and Gracie with my presence and then walk backstage they were doing that with the Lacey Evans build up at least he actually got to follow through on it and I you know I I guess we'll see <hes> see see where they go next with that with that whole thing and with both of them. I think that they've both you know they'll probably do better is like working in the shadow of brock listeners the top heel but <hes> it took them a while to it took them awhile but if though is if that's any indication maybe they found a footing for these to be to really effective <hes> performance for W._W._e.. <hes> I think overall obviously brock listeners. <hes> you know in the plus column after that night. I'm just GONNA run run through again real quick. This is people who are people who are coming out ahead brock listener. Come come come out ahead think A._J.. Styles Indefinitely Galveston Anderson as his muscle or way ahead from where they were a couple of weeks ago <hes> Cedric Alexander. I'm shrink the results is obviously habits. Drew McIntyre <hes> Bray Wyatt is obviously in the plus column <hes> Who Oh Yeah Natalia. Didn't you totally forgot about that and Italian Natalia's in the plus column that'll be Tawiah is if they can if they can if they can find a way to make to you know to get a little story in there <hes> that could be really fun when although you know we now we have these kind of parallel matches of respect and the two women's matches heading into Somerset Azuma presumably they'll find a way to spice both of those up. They're not over the moon about them. <hes> I'm sorry we don't have more time to talk about them visit and Dolph Sigler who fought on Monday and then kind of went back to his his regular role on Tuesday. Will them sure hopefully I love them. Both hopefully I'll have more to talk about them in the future <hes> and then of course rollins back to where he kind of was <hes> at least you know he's back to where it was a week ago. Basically it doesn't have the belt but he's on top Ron and <hes> and back to definitely where he was before Wrestlemainia. I really enjoyed that tin. Man Battle Royal <hes> to to close raw the selection of wrestlers. I thought was really one of those really fun. Sort of moments defines with top of the car to the top of the roster is i. I think it was very effective for that but I wanted to fit in. I think they could have still gotten some more story out of that battle real if the end result is just that second rematch. We almost going to skip the whole thing. That's long say it's true. It's true would have been nice. I almost I would have rather them do a have done. A you know not a not a no contact. There's some sort of thing with like two guys remaining in the ring and we have to have the the final match down the roads. We could have appreciated serve the whole thing more sort of like brock winning at extreme rules we forgot everything came before it. <hes> this sort of feel like the whole thing was a fait accompli sort of practice <hes> to to get setback in that position but anyway <hes> and then over on smackdown ouster black is obviously in the plus plus plus column live Morgan again has a flash of life a spark of life and had had a pretty interesting match against Charlotte flair was good to see some new blood there <hes> and then Daniel Bryan is doing something interesting as we discussed. That's definitely a plus <hes> Randy Orton Back Anna Randy or new role and then <hes> Kabuki warriors are your new women's tag team champions. Apparently they're really reinvested in that whole thing we will see Apollo crews is getting a little looking and Sandra Day to a small plus and then Kevin Owens's than the giant plus category. <HES> WE GOTTA move off this. We gotta get to <hes> gotta get to aid w <hes> there's this was a five of the fallen was not a major show and I've talked about this a million times before but but w I mean W I think my impression depression is they were caught a little bit flatfooted by the excitement that that attended both fighter fast and five of the fall and the both are supposed to be relatively minor shows but people were stoked for them as if they were you know the next double or nothing <hes> and they kind of had to work overtime to to put together cool matches to make to make them seem you know relatively significant <hes> or eared it to you know. Give us a look into what's to come <hes>. Hopefully we'll be writing about that for the for the ringer later this week this whole what's to come free w thing but. But <hes> did you have like who do you to you. Were there any big winners from five for the phone that you WanNa you wanNA touch on <hes> while I you know I I don't think they spoil the opportunity to have the Rhodes brothers <hes> compete that could have saved that if they wanted but we can revisit it again. I think it might be a no brainer headlining a story you know in the early weeks of of the T._N._t.. Show <hes> I don't no I to me. It was just a neutral show it wasn't I got the impression 'cause I didn't I wasn't able to watch until either later that night or the next night or something like that I got the impression just from scanning social media that people were disappointed and I was expecting the worst and really the only a major <hes> you know kind of the major mistake was you know miss estimating time at the end and cutting off the bucks little <hes> sportsmanship moment with with cody and Dustin to bring out that check and and Chad combine your and headlights and the whole weird thing <hes> I will say this. I think there's there is some cart before horse stuff. That's going on when w when they're very excited to get out in front of things and create a buzz I think they might have actually been better off the little stealthier about how they <hes> rolled fighter fest and fight for the fallen out and let people come to it rather than <hes> rather than necessarily promote it in such spectacular fashion and they were being you know press releases came out each of those events long time ago but so there was some there was time for people to anticipate and get excited and people are looking at it if the release valve and I don't know if necessary provided that for or them but it boomerang back to W._W._e.. And constructive ways we mentioned so I'm just going on and on here but I'm looking forward to them really getting serious in the sense of saying okay. We can't let everyone on the card. <hes> you know we you know there has to be some kind of stories have to kind of progress from event to event and we gotta stop doing this whole book and in the shows with <hes> you know patting each other on the backs are being here stuff. I think all that needs to go and let's let's keep up some pretense of of of cable. Almost you know in being from from start to finish at least within the confines of the event and yeah that's my like real real brief out. Just just like you settle on a little bit and writing this week yeah. I think they're kind of Maine of unseen is is what's most intriguing to me. <hes> sort of you know the absence of pockets or packs or you mentioned earlier <hes> and then Kenny Omega Adam page seems to be kind of getting shocked under that rule a little bit early because of <unk> packs absence <hes> and then and then you know cody Rhodes <hes> kind of being ostentatiously separate Brit from that part of the part of the <hes> the roster <hes> somebody mentioned this on I think on on Reddit this week and I totally agree that the Pentagon juniors gotta be a main of inner soon. I think that like the Luther brothers are just so so over and they soon as you know a matter of taste. I guess but it's not gonNA take long when the weekly showed debuts before I think it's clear that like the loser brothers are like the most over guys on the roster. It'll be kind of interesting. Almost almost a new day situation will be interesting to see <hes> how quickly likely they decided to sort of pull the trigger on pushing one or both of those guys as singles because they can both do it and they're both <hes> you know it's they're just like my favorite thing <hes> it about almost every w show <hes> shouts to Kenny Omega who had another really great match and <hes> and I've really enjoyed the dark order <hes> there's a lot of fun stuff in and I liked it. They just a six man tag match just in theory I liked it. They kind of put. There's sort of like second tier borderline headline players in a in a in a six man match just to like give them screen time without wasting storytelling on a on a minor show. I think that was a that was an effective storytelling tool but overall. Oh I thought it was really successful. I think that <hes> now the pressure's really on for <hes> for all out to <hes> to to be insanely good and I think that's a good amount. That's a good sort of pressure-free W I'm very excited to see what they do with it. Yeah I mean I think everyone I think to some degree. You kind of have to understand that you know maybe while they should have approached us more like hey. We're GONNA do secret shows if he's more club before we do our amphitheater tour. Maybe they should have had that more Clinton's plan this time <hes> approach they didn't they you know they put all their promotional muscle behind each of these events to the point where there was some confusion about what to expect but okay and that means. It's fair game to say like this. Is You know how this is what we think about it now that we've gotten a look <hes> but we all need to just <hes> you know kind of be ready to be feted as wrestling fans 'cause really we're going to be sitting there. Just just you know <hes> waiting to be the IM- impressed and then see who <hes> who really courts us in courts our attention and our dollars in our time go coming out of the you know going into the fourth quarter to put it in those terms of this here this weekend was any indication <hes> there will be competition for our time. I think for a lot of wrestling fans just the more wrestling the better but I think that trying to get into g one matches and trying to watch these pay per views knowing that Ron smackdown. We're looming on stuff that did feel like there was a lot of wrestling and to keep up you you know to be the one of the things about wrestling that you wanna watch it live or soon as soon as you can so that you can get online and talk about talk about it with your friends and there's GonNa be a competition whether or not it's a Monday night war. There's a competition for our for our hours you know for for our time and and I and I <hes> an early for attention and <hes> it's it's exciting. If a little bit you know exhausting but it's definitely exciting exciting personally and professionally because you know of course I don't only write about wrestling as you know I I have a backlog of past episodes of everything from <hes> pose to <hes> to. Let's see I'm looking at my d._V._R.. Right now everything from pose to full-frontal with Samantha B that that I would like to get to but the reason I haven't is directly related to how much wrestling I've been watching Lee Lee because you know there's also M._S._W.'s weekly show ring weekly show which we don't even get into you know I will say this. The more the more wrestling there has been basically since A._W._S.. Become a going concern the more <hes> I have found myself watching other stuff and not not at the expense of anything else I mean. I think I'm just like more in the bubble than I've been in a long time. I've been watching him L. W.. I've been watching a little bit of ring of honor. Obviously it talked about she won at we gotta get out of here but I wanna say if you haven't seen the evolve show it's worth it. It's on the W network with worth at least dipping in out of <hes> throw it on the background. When you're doing something else and see what you can see? There's obviously if you're in exte- fan there's some cool appearances by Matt Riddle and <hes> Adam Cole is our <hes> but those the last two matches in particular <hes> if you live in the middle of nowhere don't get to go to you know indie shows on the regular even if you live somewhere gone through stretches writing go to indy indie shows a lot <hes> but Austin Theory J._d.. Drake match I thought was just like like a just captured. What like good indy wrestling is all about in such a kind of fun and exciting way <hes> so watch that and just like give yourself over to it? It's real I mean there's a lot of good stuff on this car. I'M GONNA do his service to almost all of it and then Adam Colon secured develop you know hadn't n._F._C. Championship match to headline the show to sort of put the card over but <hes> you know it was a little bit of a house show match but it was really well done on and I thought I thought it was a lot of fun and it had a <hes> I I don't know there's just like it was just a small thing but it felt like it felt like <hes> there's always things for W._b.. Learning in this era of competition and new leadership and everything everything else and <hes> there were a lot of little things that have all show that made me think oh I wish W._B._Z.. Stuff like that and the same thing with Awa so <hes> you know hopefully hopefully there will be some learning. Hopefully there will be some evolving <hes> no pun intended and and <hes> and hopefully you know we're on this road to summer. Slam is going to be an and to all out is going to be incredible and awesome I think <hes> and of course we'll do our best between now oh and then to continue to I think remind people of what they should be looking forward to this this upcoming stretch and I really I could I am someone who tends to almost dread <hes> occasions in life period because it just means you have to be <hes> preparing for it and you have any create expectations and you have to set aside time for to watch things or do things I it's too much pressure. However I am? I am genuinely excited and cannot cannot wait for August cannot come soon enough because of some are slamming all out and what that portends for what <hes> what the immediate future will hold so that's a long is I am going to say in that regard well. Thank you for doing this. Can you get out of here. Jim just send me a message that it's twenty five years ago to the day. That Hulk Hogan made his entering debut W._C._W.. Bash at the beach capturing while W._C._W.. Championship from Ric Flair <hes> I can't. I believe it's been that long. I can't believe I'm so old. That was a really sad note Jim to go out on because now I just feel again. Sorry I well. It's especially striking when you realize oh I actually was sort of way past puberty when when that happened and it was that long ago okay so I'm I'm still in puberty. I'm still going through it but I was passed it at that point. Well thank you for going through this great life experience on this podcast today. Thanks everybody to listening. Thank you <hes> offer indulging all all this wrestling talk with us for the last week again and as always apologies to Jon Moxley. We'll see you back here next week. I think I can speak for most wrestling fans.

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D-Von Dudley Joins the Show

Busted Open

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D-Von Dudley Joins the Show

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius this Xm Channel One fifty six welcome to the bustle open. PODCASTS A lower mark Henry. I'm Jonathan Hood a lot to talk about on this edition of busted hosted open. We talked about smackdown the match up there. We're going to see the fiend against Daniel Bryan. We also talk about the heels baby faces. There's a lot of gray area when it comes to the. WWE W. E.. WHO's a he'll who's a baby face also talking about the women's division? How impressive is the women's edition or the WWe is they'll have their own survivor series? He's matchup also the revival in a big match up against the new day. That was a lot of fun. Also get into Deanne Dudley and we talk about development as he. Wwe Hall of Famer and so much more including our best shows of the week. All part of the mix for a Saturday edition busted open with Mark Henry and Jonathan Hood. The the thing that resonated with me the most is the fact that he was talking to Brady y and he actually even referenced it at one point Bray Wyatt Ardine like who's in charge and I was like Oh man and they started talking about being mentally unstable. And that's something that really really takes a prominent role in this. Because you have both all these guys their histories have speak for themselves and now you have them face to face not really face a facebook as but face to screen right and that way you can kind of keep it you know until the pay per view but when I heard him say I'm mentally unstable to own my goodness gracious. So we're GONNA have crazy. We own crazy. Okay that's fine at you. They've already laid that story out mark. But here's the thing it goes back to. The Dutch man tells story about Vince Russo when they both were in. Ta and Vince Russo. Said Bro I just don't understand this baby face versus he'll thing what what's the big deal with this. I don't know where I have never. I don't even understand it and Dutch. You don't understand this he goes. I got a book where you can be able to learn about. Baby faces versus heels and Russo said. What what book and in Dutch said the Bible they walked out what that means? Is that baby faces versus he'll still matter good versus bad. It's what our Anderson said on busted open not too long ago the same thing. Here's the here's the thing like. I'm looking forward that matchup but I think it's very clear that the fiend or Bray Wyatt. Whatever you want to say is a character baby face? He's in A. He's been a baby face since he was in the Wyatt family. He's he's still that guy that nobody wants to him. Because every time they durkan the lights in the arenas area turns your phone on. Put the lights on they. They enjoy okay so so. What is Daniel Bryan? This is he. Also a character. baby-faced people want cheer him too. So what's like I'm interested in the match. I'm just trying to figure out eh for me as a fan which way my supposed to turn. But Bray was trying to provoke him into being the baby face he was like all you gotTa do is say that magic word part yes and then he was like no you don't you don't tell me what to do. You know steer me in the direction that you want want to steer me in. I go by the beat my own drum. And if you won't if you WanNa be with me then let's let's let's lineup across from each other and let's see where the what at a time Easter road and I appreciated that from Daniel but it still left us in the gray area like like. Aren't you talked about on. We're GONNA talk about aren't later on but the white hat and black hat the good versus the evil like you like you said the Bible you know assists Satan versus Christ right like I mean is what else is like. You gotTa have a definitive role and I don't think that we got that from Dan you And what we got one more week So we have one week before we got. Close it out. Let's let's you and I are be able to break this down because once twee say it is going to be on all these different rustling podcasts. All these this wrestling show so you and I are going to break this down today. Here's what I believe. I think Vince wants to be able to get the fiend over as a heel by having by having Daniel Bryan be the baby face in this. I think he's pushing because he figures that the fien is supposed to be this evil character like super evil character but yet he's still being cheer when he took on South rollins are so. I think that Vince wants to push that ball up heels like he's he's probably thinking I'll get them over Powell he's going to be our he'll and who else can do it. Better than Daniel Bryan right. They will tell the story and I can see. I'm I'm picking up what you put down here. Let's do this Dan. You brand can tell a story in that match and make Bray Wyatt. Why is a monster rather than somebody that everybody's love and respect and because he's he's got enough I guess he's got enough history with the wrestling fans that they respect him and he's going to make them love? I love him again and he started with the No. I can't do it. I don't want to go back and MS referenced. It he's like who are you. You are you to guide and everybody loved what the Yes chance or are you to heal you bagai that everybody hated and everybody wanted to that you would You wanted to make the world better again and you wanted people to recycle. Like who are you and Daniel will tell that story mid match in the beginning. I think it's going to be a lot of bells and whistles. They're gonNA go at each the other and they're gonNA make everybody in that arena go holy Shit But then somewhere. There's going to be a point where Daniel is GonNa not do the bad thing and I love the whole psychology level of wrestling and now is is one of the one in my forte's is I enjoyed it enough to where I knew how the match was supposed to go. How is supposed to be layered? So so not only could he advanced wrestling fan. That's willing to spend five six thousand dollars a year on wrestling but the little kid. That's eight years old that understands good versus evil and they know that this is not supposed to happen. Dan and you brand will make that moment possible for that little kid. He will make that moment possible for that. Fan that superfan. That's that goes to all the pay per views you pays money for hotels and transportation and food and everything else dame brand will get that across and if by bad by the middle of that match the crowd would be boom Bray Wyatt. I can promise you. That's what that's the bottom line as we actually listen to busted opened with Mark Henry Childhood with you here on fire nation. That's the whole thing mark. That's the whole thing. He Vince wants you as a fan to choose because because nobody wants to boo Daniel Bryan everyone. That brief time that Daniel Bryan was with the white family and and I don't know why he was there for three four weeks. Whatever but nobody wanted to Daniel Bryan? It was still doing the same thing with Bray Wyatt. Nobody wants to boo bray. Wyatt but the fiend. I think they're great wide when he came to creative and said I got some special special I want to be the fiend. And here's the mask and here's the outfit I'm GonNa Wear and all that I think that in the back of of why it's mine he's thinking man this is going to get me over. As is a huge he'll but of course people still know it's bray so now the fans are going to choose but it all depends on the creative now. How this is built in? You only got a week now to be able to show yes. I am the really really bad guy. I'm hoping that you boomy and that L.. Push Brian as a baby face because otherwise we're talking about yet another match with gray a good match but gray area. That's that's not good for me as a wrestling fan. Jonathan this is. This is one of the things that that that I look at. And you see Bray Wyatt when Santa was when he was battling with Seth Seth would hit him and stop it. Why are you doing this? That's that's creating sympathy right and I think that the the the guy that we saw last night was not the same Bray Wyatt. He was in antagonised. He was teasing Daniel. He was the so. It's Canada beginning of finding out. Who is the bad guy? Next week I think that there will be an issue with with the scene and with Bray Wyatt because we don't want the last thing that we wanna do you and and I and the rest of the fans across the world is the see somebody as mentally incapable of making any candidate. Good or bad you want to see that person get hurt right. I think the sympathy will be pulled away from from them next week and it will be definitive that he'll start saying stuff like dame brand. I'm GONNA hurt you. I'M GONNA to make all these people that love. You see you for what I see you has week. And he's going to downplay Dan he's GonNa he's GonNa pull the carpet he's GonNa kick. Daniel White is on the ground. He's GonNa spit on him. He's going to talk about his Mama as we the the worst thing you can do in my neighborhood with the tug about somebody would say well my momma got to cut you right. It's right that is gonNA come out. But here's here's the thing though how this is all GonNa accommodate survivor series mark but man I wish this was During Royal Rumble. I wish they had more weeks because as you build toward this now week after week. You're showing that the fien is the he'll will the he'll do anything as you mentioned. Go after Daniel Bryan. I wish this match wasn't during survivor series in Chicago I wished at the Royal Rumble. I wish this was closer to twenty twenty twenty then it is next week because if you tell the story now for sure Bray is GonNa is GonNa come across as the he'll but now we only got a week out. It's A. It's a shame I wish there was more time. Bray Wyatt is going to have to really to next week. I wish we did have more time. I WANNA see Bray Wyatt dominate. The People in the fun house and I need to see him be mean and disrespectful respectful and shut up and don't say another word. I'll treat you like we're going to treat Daniel Bryan like he's going to have to do things to that nature in in order to make people go. Wow Man I used I. I used to like him because there is an emotional bond and we don't think about it but we loved Bray Wyatt in despite him being on the fence dance and being a great kind of character and playing the role of antagonised. We still liked acting when his music came out. We loved him music. When the lights went dark everybody turned off the phone zone? You see what I'm saying like there was there was there was connection. Daniel is a storytelling. Daniel can garner the sympathy of the wrestling fan. And I'll say now. And and you know people say Ricky steamboat. steamboat was arguably the best guy. In that era of sympathy of getting sympathy his selling Ellen was impeccable. You felt like that. I mean people have win over a barricade to try to help him Shawn. Michaels took over somewhere. I think in in The early nineties ninety to ninety four Dr Shawn Michaels became that guy that Mr Wrestlemainia stuff started to happen all the way through the nineties. If you hit Shawn on Michaels and he was on the ground writhing in pain crawling and you will see him reach his hand to the heart cameras side art and he would help me and Crou- with all be like no leave him alone. Daniel Brand is going to do that and I think we do need another two weeks but we don't have two weeks Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius XM FIGHT Nation Channel. One fifty six or on demand with the series accent APP. You look at it from a couple of different perspectives number. One Who got over like. That's that's something that you always want to say. Like not not who who who got put over. But who. Who benefited the most? And I think. Last night the INEX- t women benefited the most most out of that. Because even though they got ran out of the ring at the end I think that they benefited the most because one we got to see them individually early work in the ring on a on a prime time show and the one that shines. The most was rea- Ripley. She looked like a million bucks books in there with the other women and not just the ones that she's been wrestling with owning x t I enjoyed it a lot. I thought that she looked apart part And she wrestled apart when she came in at the royal rumble is is a different person. Altogether you you could tell that. She was nervous She was a reserve last night. She came out and she kicked ass and took names. This is a great crossover for annex t overall to for them to be on that stage on Fox let me just sidebar just for a second mark. Here's something that I think a a lot of wrestling fans take for granted you and growing up in era watching wrestling you know regionally and watching local television for wrestling right early Saturday morning Early Sunday morning or maybe overnight where they used to put wrestling it is so great for the WWe to be on a network every single Friday. It's as big of an accomplishment for Vince. McMahon in the company since the beginning of Wrestlemainia so I just I I just I think we put that in perspective. That Real Ripley was not just on some local channel or she just on the wwe network. She's in front of everybody on a network yet. How big this platform is I? I don't think we talked about that. Had enough because for US people are surnames. Like you and I having to look for your local channel to be able to find wrestling is a totally different animal than going into a network. Every Friday night destination TV prime time to watch pro wrestling. It was. It's huge soda. Same thing for Ripley. She's not even twenty three twenty four all years of age yet and she already to me is a must watch for sure. Yeah and it was cool that there's a lot of people that you know like we have first time caller colored today on the show. There are people that are watching Fox for the first time and the impression that she must have gave them was wild. She must be one of their stars That's the way she looked in marine to me she looked like men a dominant dominant personality. And it was cool to see those women succeed out there even without arguably bleated two best female wrestlers on the roster to give him a little bit of shine and that being Charlotte flair and Becky Lynch they still were able to be out there Sasha banks is you know is is not is a really really close Third and you can argue that she might be the second best wrestling company for in the women's division and it was cool to see Bailey be able to coexist with other women and it was them against index t rather than them against all the women involved so there was a lot of layers to that that you know. Sometimes you know me and my brother we. We didn't always get along but if somebody else says something to my brother or if somebody says something to me it was me and my brother against them not a good not a good place to be so That's that's what got out of it last night watching The women's matches still to come on the program on busted open. We'll get a chance to hear from another. Wwe Hall of Famer. Devan Dudley. The GO-TO the join us. Coming up to the body are right here. Busted Open with Mark Henry. John Hood with you I. Eight seven seven five nine eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three and also oh last night to see the fabulous Moolah. I'm sorry Shayna baiser out there When you see her out there I'm I call her Moolah because she looks like she can't beat she's so rare in different and I love that Mark Because Shane obeys lawyer is not like any other women's wrestler in the world not even arena st but in the world because she straight ahead no nonsense has a great promo and she rustles differently? I like her unorthodox style. All because it's different than anything else that we've seen it is almost like you like Mulan. I don't know who's going to beat her for that title. No and a lot of it too is it. Looks like she doesn't care cares sometimes even about winning it. She wants to inflict pain on people she wants to. She wants to beat you up and ugly you up up. I'm I can't remember the name of the movie but the guy was like. Hey man you're going to jail We're going to have to argue up a little bit you. That was the Makah. Think the MAC your two hands ugly you up a little bit and they beat the shit out of his eye was swollen shut. He had a scar on on his on his brow. His lips were bleeding. Nose was broken and then he went into jail and he was able to get it in. Well allow these women when they come out of a match with Rea- Ripley are with. Shane Obeys Ler. They're different and I think that that's something that I like to see. More out of Bailey. I would like to see Bailey being hill because there's a lot of people that are not Buying her being a hill she. She's she's she's she's a sweet girl Always been one of my favorites. She's the best working gene woman in WW correct. So I wanna see her adopt somewhat. Shane obeys lawyer is be bullied. Just be a tough tough sob and when she's wrestling I don't see means women men's wrestling or women's wrestling. I see a wrestler. I see somebody I I can see her doing. An agenda matches giving guys the business. She don't Oh play and she's a very very unusual. You said a really great word to describe her is unorthodox she's not your typical resolute salute at locks up with you and She's not a high flier. She doesn't overpower you. She's she's ass-kicker she whoops you. She beats you into submission. And I'm looking forward to seeing how that's GONNA come out at the survivor series because I bailing golly. I can't see Bailey. I can't see Bailey. L. E. Beaten I can see becky beaten China. Because they promote that they cut Two weeks ago that that was that made you want to see them one on one. And there's no. There's no question about that but I want to ask about baily though and once again mark it is the square peg in the round hole. Ma My disconnect with Bailey is is is not nothing as Her about her creative. And you know like everybody else knows at Bailey is a baby face. I think that the wwe dropped the ball on Bailey in this regard when when she was in annex t and making away to the wwe and she had seen a like cheers she on the on the female side on the women's side. She was the scene of the female side because of her how she resonated with the kids kids love a daily the whole Bailey buddies thing the hugs the smile she was white meat. Baby face we talked about in our last hour trying to discover baby faces so now you're drunk trying to put a square peg in round hole by having Bailey be. He'll well if you go back to last week when she was at at ringside with Michael in Corey. Michael kept cutting off Bailey Bailey. Say Oh that's okay it's okay you can cut me ofo like heels like now dammit. Don't keep cutting me off. I got something to say. That's what a he'll does. And so just naturally and then it just comes out how she doesn't have that now you know she's not a he'll now maybe she can grow into it. What you know damn well that she's a baby face and she and I think not just just from a personality standpoint mark? She was boxoffice that that baby face a persona could make even more money for the company and the end because he does not. They're barely could have been that and they turned her. They turned a blind eye to it to make her. He'll why why would you do that. You Know I. I can't answer that question but what I can do is after the show is over and you go to the podcast version of this show We need the put in a glossary with words. Like white me baby face and give the description because a lot of our listeners isn't We have some serious listens. They know but then all of our new listeners there are terminologies from old school wrestling and white me you baby phases one of them. We need to educate listeners. To what that is so tune in tune into the PODCASTS. At the end of the show. And we'll make sure that as a very descriptive version of what that is. I'm sorry I'm sorry. We're trying to educate teachers today. To eight seven seven five ninety three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three one these you know you work with somebody why that's really old school and by the way speaking to school I'll okay. I'll just mentioned this once. And then you can. You can squash me. I'm just telling you man and you know you're not supposed to have two matches back to back. That's not wrestling. You know you're not supposed to do that. That's a no no. That's what happened on smackdown last night. Having to big big game matches back to back became gas separation. You know you can't you can't have to tag team matches back to. Yeah I don't I don't I didn't understand that I saw last night and I it was Kinda like I was. I was a little shocked. And maybe they're trying to mix it up but that's not the way to do it. Yeah you're not supposed to skill back to the phone lines to talk to you. David in Atlanta's with us here on busted open with Mark Henry Jonathan Hood. Hello Dave are you guys doing. It's morning go. Hey Mark I want to throw you a question And watching that tag match last night Can you please give me some insight into when you're wrestling the rain with a knee. Brace like Dakota Tie and take a knock czar how back in the day when like stone cold aware that he would do storms and stuff. He didn't really throw knee strikes strikes or or things like that but these girls with their martial arts backgrounds their total knees left and right. How do you do that with those braces on and then not be considered the take steel chair of brass weapon in the ring? You know what. That's a great question. And I I the to be honest I think that a lot of those a lot of those braces and the ones that I had had padding on them as well as a sleeve but they're not wearing sleeves on them But I do see the corner pieces with padding on them But I I. It's a good. It's a good psychology. You Yeah no question is why wouldn't they react like they're getting hit with something iron which you know for the most part. It is the stuff being hard plastic. it would feel like iron if you got hit in the face with it and there have been several cases where people people did get hurt. Real bad by knee braces. I remember a case where Raymond Stereo and cody Kofi Kingston had a match where Kofi got cut real bad and had to get it stitched up so Yeah I miss. This is definitely something that that that needs to be addressed to the talent are I. We're glad you checked in David. Appreciate your phone call He Leaves Line Open. Eight seven seven hundred ninety three eight seven seven three four four four nine three. Don't forget to Hit US up on twitter as well at the Mark Henry at siriusxm busted open tweet Jay Hood. We say to Jim in spring branch with us on busted open. What's up Jimmy Not much not much. How you doing Janet and mark got a question for you? You got the women's champions going against each other in survivor series. You got the tag teams going each other and you got the the others born to each other. Why in our heavyweight champions going after each other you know I mean which one would be the dominant? Would it be brock listener. What would it be the pain or would it be Michael? You know what I think that having having dominant hills does it Michael Cole. He is a talented guy. Like no don't disregard. Michael Cole is being up there with Jim. Ross and Gordon Solely The his voice will be missed when he's not doing it again when he's not doing We've come to listening to Michael Cole and take it for granted. I think how good is and has been this being descriptive. Him being informative and him giving the respect that needs to be for whoever he's talking about he's really really sound. I joy Michael Cole So we're not gonNA trivialize Michael. But as far as like dominant hills like There are dominant hills in the business. I mean you. Brock lesson is the ultimate dominant hill and Bearing Corbin is a dominant hill. Dobbs Ziegler and bobby rude are dominant hills in the business and you can keep going But what we have done is we have have a lot of guys that are riding the fence. Where am too many and Mr Hood mentioned earlier like we need more baby phases? There's there's guys that could be baby faces. I mean like ricochet is ultimately baby face you know. Aj styles could be if he if need be but as a heel you tell me somebody that you can look and say wow that he's better than Aj styles as a hill ages. Thousands House is good. It's just that so many guys have road defense so long and they w one day they'll have him cutting a promo promo that everybody likes them and then they'll be wrestling. The same shows somebody as a hill. And like you gotTa make up your mind. This businesses businesses confusing if you don't know Sirius. Xm Then listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm them but you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars just go to Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted to see offer details end to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new siriusxm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No okay required. I enjoyed the fact that The new day was was able to not only captivate everybody last night and and get. You really didn't get a win. You know being that you know the undisputed Eric came out and of course ruined that But biggie is one of those guys that you know they. They mentioned about how he would be a great single guy. A great singles singles wrestler creating Canada Array F- if you will between him in the new day guys and I I thought that was kind of interesting because nobody talks about somethin' unless it's something that they're going to talk about on the show in the future and I tell my wife all the time like I see a commercial at our trailer and if it if it relates to wrestling. There's a reason that the Debbie Debbie shows they not gonNA put anything on the program does not have any relevancy Z.. Later on and but it was cool that the roderick strong He looked like he had heard something. Something bad about him Last night he was out there slang in banking and I think that The whole talk about Adam Adam Cole. Shining everybody else being like the backup. Singers Counter didn't go well with Roger Strong because he was whipping their ass. Yes yes I was like man. Look at Roger. Rodney Cook is not playing and It was cool though. You see the the the undisputed error come out there. With some some fire and brimstone because you won't pay per view to look like they can compete and prior weeks. I'M A I was excited about it but I didn't think that they would have a a chance now. I actually think that After last night that undisputed heir may have a chance. I just love the idea of a faction you and I grew up in wrestling wrestling watching the factions whether it is the the free birds whether it's devastation corporation with Skandar Akbar you know. The list goes on and on of factions. Those those things matter in wrestling bring back man bring it back just just given the history lesson in bringing it forward but I know one thing to see Roderick strong out there. You're right. He is taking can another step and that match between him and Roderick strong and a J styles. I'm not sure who's going to bump and feed in that match but I just know it's going to be held at match. I don't know who's going to take pinfall. Let's go should be a lot of fun survivor. Series Yeah it should be and AJ is is AJ. He you know we talked about guys Teflon. We'll talk about guys that have the fool to box Aj's thousands got the full toolbox. Man I mean they didn't portray that when and he ran into brock. I wish they would have done more. When when he he and Brock touched? But you know I can't go back and rewrite it Norwood they probably listen to me anyway. but I'm on this program and I'm forcing them to listen because Don't think for one second that they're not listening and area. The COMP- country company is not listening because Busted open open is slowly becoming the standard in pro wrestling outside of the televised shows. Like you so you can mention raw smackdown A. E. W. T. New Japan impact our age. MSW and what's the one that We get flack for not mentioning like we don't mention That Yesterday on the show David I was talking about. The guys has Brian that you know 'cause in you don't ever power well. We mentioned power but it was one of the other shows. We're not gonNA mention it because 'cause we don't even remember it so anyway moving right along sucking to suck we. I won't after today. It's a suck it Saturday. I don't I don't disagree Gabby. I'm on your side. But how move sir. Her Her let's go back to the phone lines. Say a phone lines and stop this. Yes that's what we do here as we go to St Louis J Jay on busted open right here on Sirius. XM fight nation. Hello Jay Hello guys. Good morning how are you all. We're well thank you so you guys were talking before about smackdown last night In the Roy made me want to call it. What you guys talking about? Chad Gable. As I like to call an EH shortage e The I mean I appreciate that You Know Chad is making the most of his time with with what they're giving him But personally I think that Chad deserves to be Chad Gable. and where the gear he was wearing and that looks like he used to be in space jam. Right that's why we heard the joke there from Corey graves yesterday making that. I think that joke about his weight when he was wearing. It's pretty funny. Yeah maybe the writers you know things that this this gimmick appealing to children and everything But I guess people like myself. Who are you know in our late Twenties and early thirties? We know who are more you know wrestling than sports. Entertainment I always you know I've always been a fan shaped gable with American out the I do appreciate him in Mustafa Ali pick that win For me the the spend down last night It's Matt down on Fox started up to such a huge. You know. Start off with a bang with that show on Fox and everything but I ever since the draft other than that. NFC invasion show where the smackdown roster was stuck in Saudi Arabia The shows are just kind of been other lackluster or average. They haven't been as good as that I show in the NFC invasion show I wanted your guy's thoughts on that and Um you know for being on Fox. Why shows haven't been you know like for me? The two best that shows that the week Air On national television are Wednesdays. You know raw and smackdown feel you know even other the the as show it was for the company for lots of fans. The two best shows are annex t and W and Ron smackdown play second fiddle. Just want to get your thoughts. Thank you Jay. Go ahead hedmark. No I the whole point was I think that Chad Gable is an Olympian I and a dominant wrestler second He's being trivialised. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six or on-demand with the SIRIUSXM APP in his wwe. Hall of Famer. Dan Dudley he joins US here on. Busted Open Dion. It is mark and Jonathan. Thanks so much for your time. Thank you show absolutely. We just WANNA get your overall thoughts about where we are as far as the state of wrestling mark and I have been talking about just the ebb and flow of how things are going. How close do you think wrestling is to the territory days as far as so many different companies being able to flourish? I think we're missing things like that. where their work different territories and we're guys were able to learn their craft You can bet it by the time they got to the WWE and you know crying up. All the promotions can happen everything thank you know. It's kind of hard now to to learn and to go to different territories to be able to prosper In their crap. But you know that's why I always always tell even my teams in smaller that they need to say to you that they can stay on the indy circuit as long as you can scrap. Walls also picked up here before coming up and trying to make it to the big Dan. Because you lied to get that out of your system so by the time you come up. You're ready to go Stephen I I've always been a proponent of tag wrestling Seeing a tag team worked together other and do a Finnish together. What why is it that now? The tags are going away from working together. Seemed like the revival revival is the only team this kind of looking at it like if we do it together. We'll win because we're Bible is not a team that they just put together. Revival was actually a act and nowadays. You've got guys be put together. Because sometimes they don't know what to do with them or in doing like they used to be back in the day in some aspects where they go into the wall and a lot of times they don't because he died on Gel woman. I work together together. I E E W and you know we learn how to craft and learn how the world to gather so by the time we were able able to get through the wwe. We were illegit Tattoo. Not only that. Who wanted to be the? That's the different a lot of these guys. Don't WANNA compact. But they're put together. I think if he lets some of the guys that want to be taxing and let them flourish and lethal ones that the state will be single divine. We talked about the most dominant basketball team of all time are the most in the most dominant stop it. The most dominant bureau which you already say that as Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen absolutely so you really you really in your heart of heart. Things that Michael and Scotty could be Kobe Shack. Well you know what it's hard to say that and I tell you what because it's because it's not true that's why it's hard disk okay. But that's your opinion and lifted. I've had had all compete with you. Before and now you're bringing to the forefront of media a- you and I are going to be like sack in week in What's his name that it always get insurance? Barkley Charles Barkley. So Jason takes every generation get stronger and stronger tell. Let me put it this way you had to Hogan and Andrea. You know that did what they did. And it was extremely successful. Then you move to the Brenton Sean. Our which take stronger and thicker and then of course the which is what we were they of course we were bigger than hip sing far. Beyond what the Hogan Andre every Would you not taking anything away from them. Now you go today and again Gary Nepad even more so I think that's okay well. Evolution is definitely really something that plays a big part in sports and and in pro wrestling. We wanted to compare. Where do you see? UN BUBBA in Mount Rushmore rush more wrestling duos. I think we're right up there so I'm not GonNa sit here and say that we would not want because he's always want a quick The ones that were the number one the one that came before the road warriors the rock and Roll Express. Big night sweats telling on the list goes on and on you know the coal me. Basically you know took them each and every one of those tags that pretty much accept the offer offer us and all we did was make it into our own and then bring it to the forefront those guys and by being way better but lifted avenue in an alternate or even a discussion about tag team wrestling. We're not putting these into the mix. I think we proved them without a shadow of a doubt that we are definitely two tenders Even with those from the past. So you know I'm I'm very proud of what I have accomplished You know no other tag eighteen. You know obviously said that people say that he had accomplished more than any other tag team but for us and remember back in the day pure in the Hogan. Andrei our territory To conflict by the time me and BUBBA DOTS here. There was only three and then when you talk at those three then when you went overseas to new Japan. Oh the organizations over there but guess what we conquered that as well so you can have a discussion about the great attack without mentioning not being cheated or what happened. But I'm just telling the truth divided. We gotta you gotta run but we want to ask you about the women in Iran wrestling just the WB. When everyone else how surprised are you of this? this evolution with women's wrestling in and what stands out. Most about it for you. You know what gets me about that is that you know again. I take nothing away from Our generation comes to the attitude. Ever I take nothing away from the Holding Andrea Sean. When it comes to the women's wrestling the jumping bombing more than a lot of the Sherri Martel? The list goes on on the fabulous Moolah young you know all of them they set the ball but these women to day. It's almost like that was better than the men. Take all my God they Hard hitting they are just in your face. They don't care it's not about what was used to do back in the day hit snap. No no no. It has nothing to do with that. He's for real women that are going in there. And plus their behind and people look at them in a different way. And I'm I'm so proud of the women today until wrestler that you know I stand up and clap and because some amazing now when you watch women the Western let me what has become how it has evolved into what it is today. No one coming but you know what it's here is here back and the well I'm GonNa say this divine My I thought I think that Christian and Edge And the hardest should definitely being that conversation with you but from the busted open standpoint. We we consider you and bully To be number one. It's not like that you didn't earn and I know that you're being respectful. And you're paying homage to the people that came before you but that don't make him right. That don't make it right. You guys evolve the business you you not only do it in the ring but you did it in in office and in the Board Room and and that's that's important to pro wrestling. Well thank you mark. I really appreciate it and you know things like that that you know from people that I've been in the ring with a lock of with I've sat down and ate lunch with actually say that about us because along with everybody else done that you know you know what's better than anybody else and how hard it was for pets. He especially during the advocate when you have the right when we had stone Cold Steve Austin addiction typically all of the fifth ause but yet southern. I think end the party made tag team standing made looking. Oh my God and they made people want to say where did this come from. And they actually went back. The fans the pro wrestling have gone back in history and looked up guys so they can compare what wrestling was to what wrestling is that you in Bluey did and they got to see how good y'all really are Diva and I know you you got stuff to do you're signing autographs and taking pitches and and you're over at the big event. I'm on my way over there. In a in a few minutes and in the spirit of bully array. I would not be doing justice if I didn't tell you you're the opening match. Warm the crowd for me. I'll be over there in a minute. Hey I owe me the main event. If that's the case I got to say thank you for the House the job kid. Thank you thank you all talk to you soon. Thank you guys if you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy. Talk 'n news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius. 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And we've got a lot of positive feedback from it so You know I I would have to go so far as still Awa one again and in my eyes and you know I would even have to say that smackdown last night JUMPED OVER IN X T and RAW Came in for and I'd have to give power five I I love power her I think that some of star power some of it is them being really really new but The one thing that I I could take away from it is nick comes on today's show holding the title like this. His baby and the respect Beck level is unbelievable but Giving you my winners I still would have to say that He he w took it okay for me. If I'm having my top five I'm going to go in last night smackdown because if everything that you and I talked about man that that whole all thing at the end the main event was Daniel Bryan in the fiend and how that always built and by the way how was built with Promo Both both A. W. New Annex T in a number of these other companies still have to understand the power the Promo. How do you not become wrestling fans? You're watching Houston rustling on Paul Boschetti. TV and in the Momo's Butch Reed is going to tell you. He's going to be junkyard. Dogs as you know like you know Gary Hart with rain in Kabuki. He's telling you. Strong Kabuki is us. You know so those me sorry for ten years old of that. Ah I'm just telling you man when he's talking to you know when when you're watching Houston rustling the promos with the TV The TV station on the in the background in the backdrop. Those things again came out while he was telling you he. You know who is going to. WHO's going to face so those the promo still matters and I think that's smackdown did a great job with that? I thought it was better than a w this past Wednesday night And added think. Aws Show was as good as we've seen the past the promos once again rose. Those were good. Yeah but I thought exte- you know with sold me man. The restaurant rustling to opening match with Angel. Garza and Leo Rush. That's it. They opened his show with unbelievable wrestling. And that's just hard to be. You know you'll make me change my mind but I get a lot of flack you know from the fans of being a wwe homer and You know is is is sometimes it does sway my opinion I thought that but I didn't I didn't say it and I regret it That I let the fans get in my head about about you know how I make my decision but I'm Gonna I'm GonNA stick to it because I really did. Enjoy watching 'EM J. F. and Chris Jericho in a ring. Like that was money for me But I I I mean just like you said the NFC next he opened up great and Last night show was really good. And I I I put it above x t Because because last night the implications were really really good. Yeah I thought that Annex T had a better effort this Wednesday case it after every Wednesday but I just thought that annexed exte- this sense of you know what's going to happen next and also the in ring performances were really good so I'll give it to them. I'll go off the boring board and give you an X T U K. Hey which I think is a very underrated show. People should be able to watch on Thursdays. I'm a big mark for them. And here's why you don't there's no perfect rusting show mark. But I'M GONNA. I'll tell you right now. The way triple h and whoever's working behind the Scenes Annex T U K put together. I got the perfect Blend promos an in ring work and that that whole thing when imperium Taken on Gallus is is strong man. And tell you walters like a young Andre. I like really young Andre when when he was first coming up when we is mobile and can move like when he was in Japan. That's what that's what he reminds me of a very young Andre. I just think that imperium is over so as Gallus I think. In Jordan Devlin's Great Noam Dar is one of the best heels in the company and no one knows he. He's just that good so I am a big Fan of Annex T U K the NWEA. They of course. Because we're trying to figure out when Tommy Dreamer is question mark or not. I think he is An AWS fifth on my list. Wow well I I'll tell you You listen to the show you know. I'm very high on Walter. Walter is one of my favorite wrestlers in the world right. Now I think I think that There's a lot that can be done with him. I think that the future is bright. He's young enough I think that he's GonNa have time to work on his body. Heidi will see him change over the next three years There's so many pluses and imperium as their their presence. They have a presence like you never out of it because he's got back up and Sometimes uh-huh Walter is standing on that back-row While the other guys are out there you know putting the work in so I mean is is is a great faction And you're right. I I said that in X T U K should be on television with Annex t but you know that would be hard to do because there's so many moving parts and you don't want to say well we're going to go oh to inex- t- UK The show is going on live right now. And then you've you go to a feed and it's completely different wrestling different flow. It would ruin it But I'm just figuring out how we can get in x t all on one night man it it is a it is one one of my favorite shows to watch. It's it's an hour Nigel. McGuinness on color is terrific. I'm glad at TA. I'm glad Tom is doing The play by play because after the the they moved the announces around on smackdown. Tom Phillips says an opportunity. Now so I'm very happy for for that brand and And we mentioned a W that's on my list as well all right so let me ask you this man. I know you got a big event. Where are you going? You got a big event. This afternoon is called. The big event is at Laguardia Hotel. in their conference rooms There's hundreds of pro wrestlers and fighters signing autographs. And as you heard Yvonne Dudley was over there opening a show for me he's over signing and And we enjoyed having developed on the show today. And I'm on my way over there. Man Like is I love always look forward to getting to meet the fans. Meet the people that Make us do what we do. And they're the reason we love the business but we loved his business because we love performed for the fans so I'm looking forward to getting over over there and shaking hands and kissing babies. Thanks for listening. Catch US Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Sirius X._M.. By Nation Channel One fifty six busted open podcast.

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Brian and Brad talk wrestling

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Brian and Brad talk wrestling

"Jason Hello Welcome to the keep sounding. Podcast this is your most recent edition without John this is Brian joined by Brad Brad. How're you doing? I'm good? How are you good good? We seem to have gotten a lot of Nice responses to our to our episode on Tiger King. Which if you haven't checked it out already. And you've watched the net flicks series. Please do that. It was a great time. It was something a little off script for us. What we're doing right now as we've said in a few of the past episodes is while we're all locked down for nineteen while we're all you know trying to get through being at home. Most of the time less essential worker and even if you're an essential worker maybe a podcast. Driving to and from work might be helpful We want to provide an extra content. Something a little more off scripts off the cuff. You now so tonight since John isn't going to be around. What we decided to discuss is the fact that obviously this is a sports podcast but there isn't much going on in the world of sports but there is one sport or rather entertainment that still in the limelight right now and that's wrestling more specifically wwe. But W all league wrestling. Which is the the alternative right now are still making coastal both still making shows still making content. Which honestly matter how you feel about having these guys go to work while the viruses out there. I'm sure there are plenty of people who who like having that on. Tv screen while they're sitting at home doing nothing So to give you a preface if you're not a wrestling fan or if you haven't been in a long time We have wrestlemainia coming up this weekend. It's going to be a two night event which they should've done a long time ago because the show was like five or six hours long the last few years and it's all taped. It's not live so that's GonNa be weird so we're Kinda here just to discuss the general landscape of this particular part of sports. Because obviously it's still going on but we Kinda WanNa talk about the I guess. Like should wrestlemainia be going on? How much of this should they be doing? Is it something you should tune into at CETERA ET CETERA? So to start us off though I want to give us a chance to qualify ourselves. Because obviously I don't think we've discussed wrestling a whole lot on this show. I know John's not the biggest wrestling fan though he does he did know about some of the bigger names back in the day. Brad Ni- are actually wrestling fans discussing a lot So Brad tell me about your relationship with wrestling. What what makes you a fan? Tell me about your past. What brought you back to it. Okay well I being a almost forty year old. I am considered Gen-x so I grew up in the nineties watching wrestling. I've been watching it since like nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety two. Were in that time like I remember. I remember pre Monday night. Wars wrestling You know I even remember as a kid when wrestling used to come on Saturday nights. Wcw used to run Saturday night. Main event you know they don't you don't see that kind of stuff that much anymore. Because it's more concentrated on weekdays but you know I've I've been watching wrestling in some capacity for nearly my entire life I have always been a wwf slash WWe Fan But when I was a kid I actually liked WCW more than wwe. I thought it was more entertaining. And this was before the Monday nitro introduction before the N. W. O. Started I mean to me. It was actually what you would consider quote unquote wrestling before Vince Russo. In his mom on a pole match. Yeah before Vince. Russo came in and almost ruined it for for everyone You know it was it was and I know. A lot of people don't like him But like Jim Cornet says it has to be somewhat believable You know you're supposed to suspend your disbelief. you're supposed to not think that just for an example that the undertaker is actually a mysterious a warlord mystic wizard who can rise from the grave but at the same time. You're also supposed to believe that. Hey those dudes in the ring really do want to get into a fight and you know you don't see as much of that anymore. I mean it's it's sports entertainment like Vince. Mcmahon has completely sold out to to not even use the word wrestling anymore If he could get away with calling it the W. S. E. World Sports Entertainment. He probably would you know I mean I still like it. You know I still watch it all the time. I more than a W. Fan now because I think they provide a better product than what? Wwe provides and. I'll get into that later because I'm sure we'll talk about the problems in modern. Wwe But I remember watching it as a kid. You know when Macho Man. Randy savage was popular the ultimate warrior Hulk Hogan Rowdy Rowdy Rowdy. Roddy Piper staying. I was a big staying fan. I guess you could call me a mark. I guess wrestling term would be But I loved staying electric flare. I liked hacksaw. Jim Duggan You know the bush-whackers like all these crazy characters that the WWE WCW had from back in the day And you know I. I watched wrestling all through my teenage years. You know when I was in high school in college me and a group of my friends. We used to get together at one of my friend's house and we would all put five dollars in watch every single. Wcw Pay per view. And you know some those are some of my most cherished memories from those years of my life and then in about I want to say it was about two thousand six ish. I kind of fell off from watching it all the time. Because it you know. Vince McMahon had purchased WCW and wwe was really the only viable wrestling product on TV. And it just it started getting stale and so I took a break from it for a long time like I think it was four or five years before I started watching it again and then after that I was kind of on and off with it more on than off but I would take long breaks from it. I wasn't as into it as I used to be. And then a w came along and I haven't missed an episode of eighty W dynamite because they've brought joy back into watching wrestling and that's something that is sorely missed in. Wwe At least in my opinion. I'm not gonNA knock anybody for liking a product that I don't like because you know people have different taste but you can see a difference in the two. Ah presented to you as a viewer and to me a e w is more of what I want and I. I've learned over these last several months. Now it's been almost a year since H.W. Launched I've learned that I didn't fall out of love with wrestling. I fell out of love with Vince. Mcmahon's vision of wrestling is and I think that's a big distinction. Yeah I agree It's funny it's funny kind of hearing your perspective because you just named all these people were like when I actually got into wrestling. They were like the guys. I heard about the Mike. I watch videos like stone. Cold Steve Austin and like sting and all that and I didn't I didn't even mentioned stone cold. Steve Austin and the Rock. I mean I though they were the two big dudes in. Wwe And the attitude era. And I mean you know the whole stone cold versus Mr McMahon thing is what got a lot of people into wrestling right and I came after that because so when I was I probably got into wrestling somewhere around middle school and for me. Middle School I had moved from like I have moved from primary school right into a new state totally new area in like sixth grade. So I was like I had like no friends at the time so like when I actually like I only really got into wrestling. Just because I like I had always been like I had always heard people like all the bullies at school talking about how wrestling stupid Blah Blah Blah and like. I was watching the night that They did the tribute to Eddie Rare. Oddly enough It was the night do like I have seen it in passing here and there but I never really liked tuned in but I saw this match was Shawn Michaels Ramos. I don't remember if it was a tag team match a one on one match but it was the night that they did the Guerrero tribute and that was where I got hooked because those two fucking tore the house down and I just kept watching it but like I had never had like stone cold in the Rock and like all that I was. It was always just stop. I heard about For the longest time I actually thought Stone Cold Steve Austin Goldberg with the same person. So but I like I started watching it then in the character that I actually really fell in love with oddly enough for whatever. Reason was randy. Orton I that Randy Orton. And in that time period was really good. I mean he's now but he he was really really good will like I just. I was waiting for him to turn face because this was after he'd be Chris Benoit's The for the championship in summer slam and got thrown out evolution and had his like minor face. Turn it. This was the time where he was feuding with the undertaker which was some of the best shit of that time was that feud with the undertaker. I got I liked Randy Orton. I followed along and I started to appreciate the performance art of it over time like I understood by people didn't like John Cena but I appreciate it a lot of things like I started to appreciate the technical aspects of what they do in the ring. Because I was growing up I was. I was an aspiring actor I actually at one point decided I was going to be a pro wrestler because I I appreciated all of the nuance that went into their performances. And that's kind of what kept me going to this day. There are so many times where I wanted like throw my controller my TV. Because of what? Vince McMahon decide stew with this fucking booking his wrestlers. There's always those like momen. Swear it's like okay. This is the shit. I'm here for like a good example was returning this past year while not even this past year this year at the royal rumble. Like nine years in the making the dude had had just had neck. Surgery ended his career nine years prior to that and somehow he managed to find a way back in that moment where he was on the ramp and had like you just saw the emotion hit him. I'm back I'm back doing. I love like that kind of Shit is what I'm here for. That was like one of the greatest moments of wrestling. I've ever seen was just look on edges face when he realized I'm back doing what I love to do. So that's the kind of thing that that really wrote me in just like those those like big moment where like and they come few and far between sometimes now in WWe. And I feel like eighty W is going to do a really good job of making those happen as they gain more traction with their products. But that's the Kinda Shit I'm here for. Is those like big moments. Were like no other form of entertainment can do that. So that's that's why I would consider myself van still to this day and why I follow along the product. No matter how fucking frustrating makes me I find it interesting that your first real interaction with wrestling was the Eddie Guerrero tribute show because I had a completely different reaction to that show because Eddie Guerrero was one of the probably three or four guys that I absolutely just. I loved to watch him work and I don't know if you've ever gone back and watched old video of Eddie Guerrero's Oh I have. Your plan is arguably one of the if not the best. Latino wrestlers of all time The and the night that he won the wwe championship overbrook listener at. I cannot remember the name of the pay per view. Now I think it was no way out or something like that I think so but tonight he won the the wwe for the first time is one of the standout moments of that decade of wrestling and to see just a couple of years later that he was gone. I mean he's one of the guys you know wrestling has had a long sordid history with with wrestlers dying way too damn young and he was one of the ones that I still to this day. I missed seeing him like I. I Miss Eddie Guerrero and I can't really say that about a lot of wrestlers. But he is absolutely one of the ones that I feel that way about. And I it's it's it's odd to me you know. Just I guess it shows our difference in age and everything but one of the worst most desperate desolate saddest episodes of WWe Raw. I've ever seen is the same episode that got you to fall in love with the product and I think the reason behind that was because they were putting their asses out there on. The line was reckless abandon. Why S. The whole the whole show? I remember I tuned in right when that match was happening and I was hearing them all talk about it and like I was looking online. I was seeing. I saw their video packages to Eddie Guerrero and I was like this is house like I don't understand this but this is a really heavy moment for for these people and and doing it. They were putting their asses on the line. Like you said to make Eddie Guerrero proud. Because they knew he was watching them and watching that shows how much of an impact he had on people exactly and watching ray mysterious and Shawn michaels absolutely tear it up which. I didn't know it at the time but I was witnessing a match that we you probably should have been getting on paper view at the time like I didn't understand that but it was two of the most gifted performers of all time in wrestling. Yes and they absolutely tore the fucking house down and that was where I like. I saw the passionate and I was like. This is an art form. This isn't just some Gimmick Bullshit that I've been led to believe by people who are like well wrestling's fake. It's just decided outcome. Like people who watch it or stupid. Blah Blah Blah like. It's it's a performance art and that was that was what drew me in and I think it's crazy you're right. It is crazy that that night. That was like so for so many fans of Eddie. Guerrero was such a huge time. I was just some guy tuning in and it drew me in. It's like it's all the more reason to appreciate Eddie Guerrero for what he was because he motivated everybody else around him to be better once he was gone. And I mean you shawn. Michaels is arguably the greatest wrestler ever as far as entertainment value. He looked like a wrestler. He he was a very skilled performer. His matches made sense. He drew money. I mean just about any metric that you can use to judge good wrestler Shawn Michaels is is arguably the best entertainer of of wrestling in their history. And like you said to see him. Put on a pay per view quality main event match with Ramos. Cheerio on a random tribute episode of Monday night raw in two thousand five. I mean that was toward the end of his career. That wasn't even like he was big in the nineties and early two thousands. That wasn't even you know like he was. He was just coming down from his prime. Yeah the way the way I always understood. It was the about major back injury that should have put him out for good and then came back. Yes. He was out for several years with a back injury and You Know I. It's just one of those things like we almost didn't see him anymore. And there are a lot of wrestlers that are like that Triple H is another example. He he had to have surgery on both of his quads because he tore both of them a tour one of them so bad that the the meat came off the ball like completely. And you know he's he's had that happen multiple times stone. Cold Steve Austin broke. His neck on our went wrong. I read about that as almost broke his neck. I don't know if you've ever seen that but Bryan. Do a backward shooting star. Press off the top rope and landed head first. Yeah look cost himself. I mean there's so many stories of almost in in wrestling. It's amazing what these people do. And what they put up with just to entertain us and you know a lot of people and I I want to touch on this because you you mentioned it because people always say this about wrestling and it. It pisses me off people. Do they say it's fake okay. It's not fake it's predetermined there's a difference. Yes when I'm just GONNA throw out two names. I don't even know if you know whatever but when Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Rock Compete for the wwe championship in the main event Wrestlemainia. You know ten years ago fifteen years ago whatever twenty years ago. They already know who's going to win. They know that going in and they both are working to make sure that that happens. But those bumps were they hit the Mat. Those are real the jumping off the ropes and landing her knees on their backs on their ass. That shit is real it hurts. It's not fake. And when people say it's just scripted predetermined stuff okay so is the walking dead is you know. Ncis so is law and order so is any of these TV shows. You like. I mean there are not real zombies walking around in America right now. You're not in his Ambi- apocalypse yet. You know it's like Star Wars Star. Wars is is fake too. I mean we don't live in in the Star Wars Universe all of these things that we watch their fake quote unquote fake. But that doesn't mean that wrestling should be the only one that singled out. I mean you know to to really quick just like give you the best comparison I ever heard. So you get tickets to go see a Broadway a Broadway play. Let's say you're GONNA go see. I Dunno macbeth. Macbeth M.'s. Everybody fucking dies or Romeo and Juliet like we fucking dies. We know how it's going to be. You still go watch the show for the performance and that's what wrestling. It's exactly what difference between wrestling and that is. You don't know what's going to happen. Exactly the performers. No but the fans that bought tickets. Don't now they're sometimes won't do it's blatantly obvious by. Wwe Like there's a lot of times. It's blatantly obvious. And I guess it's a good way to show the difference between wrestling now versus when I was younger. The Internet ruins ninety nine percent of wrestling. Storylines Okay Yep like nowadays when you have a just say like a loser leaves. Town match your. You know who's going to win because ninety nine percent of the time on twitter or whatever. It's already been leaked that such and such wrestler has signed with another promotion or is going to Japan or whatever so you already know who's going to lose the loser leaves town match you know thirty years ago. We didn't have any way of knowing that like it was it was still a somewhat of a surprise. Yeah I and that that era has basically died. I mean aside from like you know edge randomly showing up which even then I mean there were deaf. I I was there like I wanted to show up but it wasn't like at the Royal Rumble. But it wasn't like I was super surprised when it happened like because of all the speculation about it And even when like for example those matches with those what was it two matches with Roman reigns and brock listener. Wrestlemainia were brought. It was pretty clear. Like Vincent Man Wants Roman reigns to win and like yeah the audience also coming and they were all pissed about it but then they had brock leser wind to have a swerve. That just made it. Even worse like they should have just steer into skid but I feel like the last real the last real storyline. Were Ever GonNa get where. We don't actually know what's going to happen. Was the PUNK match against John. Seen at Summer Slam or money in the bank I should say money in the bank. Yeah where because they built up the story line see punk went out there instead of bunch of shit that no wrestler will ever be allowed to say. I'm Mike ever again And you had some real doubt as to whether or not he was gonNA come back or not And then He. He ended up winning and they had they did a whole thing with you. Know Him. Being like crashing press conferences. Shit like that like that was the last time I ever feel like I didn't really have an idea of what was going to happen. Was that storyline. Yep and just in typical www fashion. They completely fucked over yeah. They have the hottest. They had the hottest thing in wrestling the hottest thing than wrestling. They've had some stone. Cold Steve Austin and then the fucked it up because they had fucking Kevin Nash. Come in there with triple h God it and I. I'm with you when punk cut that pipe bomb promo which was nine years ago as that to believe. I thought to myself I'm like there is no way in hell. That's McMahon is going to let him win the title against John Cena like there is no way and then he did and I was surprised and it wasn't clean but it was clean enough. It was it was clean enough for a money in the bank. Pay Per view But what they should have done was they should let see punk leave. He should Vince. Mcmahon is ego got in the way they should have let him go to like new Japan pro wrestling. Tna if it you know. I don't know if it was still around. He was still under contract. Though I know but they should have worked out an agreement he could go to Japan he could go to. Tna like do one offs go to a ring of honor and defend his WWe championship. That would have been so good. Have Him and have him stay. Gone for like three months minimum and then do what they did which was doing new. Wwe tidal with him as well. Yeah being or I was fine and then have him pump comeback at the Royal Rumble and win the Royal Rumble and John. Cena vs main events wrestlemainia to unify those belts. That would have been money. Oh my God yeah. We'd still be talking about. You'll be talking about it and punk would have never left. The company see in punk would have never left. He would probably still be there. And I don't even know what they did that Wrestlemainia. Let's take a look. I'm pretty sure that was was that the year where they did the first rock matchup with him he. No let's see. I looked up the wrong year. Hold on two thousand twelve because it was two thousand eleven when it. I know I feel. I don't think it was data quickly. That punk faced off against Chris. Jericho Wrestlemainia. I feel like they waited another year after that. Okay it was John Cena against the rock for the WWe tidal okay. So then it was now that Oh yeah it was for the title for the. For the first one. Don't think so because the rock you're right you're right. John John Cena fought the Rock and then the League did Dan. I don't even know what sorry hold on a minute. Money late July of two thousand eleven is when he left so it would have been I. I looked up the wrong year. You were right it was just John Cena versus the Rock C. Defeated Chris Jericho which was actually a pretty good match. Yeah he was still the champion so I mean yeah I mean the way that worked out but imagine. They could've moved that to the next year. Well on top of that the funny like their their their rematch where Jericho versus punk could have been the main event for. It should have been and it wasn't and that's why he left. Yeah but they could have that second match between John Cena Punk. They could very easily push that off the WRESTLEMAINIA. Because that's second match was so fucking good that they had like they could have very easily file found a way to do that. But Yep see 'em punk was gone and a part of the reason why he cut that. Promo the year did it. The wrestlemainia main event in two thousand eleven was John Cena ms with the rockets special referee or he was involved. Yeah the yeah. That was the one who did the SCHMALTZ finish where they double count it out and then the rock showed up and said no referee. Now this is going to be a real match. And then the mid is still one which was overshadowed in his own wrestlemainia main event. How fucked up is Shitty? Yeah but I'm sorry I like the Ms. Don't get me wrong. But the minute should never main event Wrestlemainia I think this this integration of them is that they had actually like strapped their rockets to him and let him go. He could've but that integration is no absolutely not. Yeah and that's the problem and we'll go ahead and talk about vets. That's the problem Vince. Mcmahon does not know how to create stars. Now Vince McMahon. The last star Vince McMahon created. Was John Cena. And we'll Roman reigns Kinda. He almost any shoved. The problem is waited too long to pull the trigger on Roman reigns and then what he did. Pull the trigger. He shoved him down fans throats. Yeah the wrong thing. What he's done with Roman reigns is what he did with. Iraq should've turned him heel and made him the cool. He'll and then people would have got behind him. I mean that's exactly what happened with Seth rollins Kevin Owens like exactly where heels. Eventually people were cheering him. Like and that's what happened with them is to like the MS was eventually if he'll that people cheered like in this day and age. It's no longer about having your superhero baby faces. Who are all like basically Clark Kent like fans want those guys will just go fuck a guy up for for no reason at all? Like they won another stone. Cold Steve Austin. And they haven't been able to deliver yeah. It's Vince is trying to rely on people that were popular when I was younger. Fan Like Goldberg is a good example. Fucking Goldberg is going to have a title match at Wrestlemania this weekend. Bill Goldberg is fifty three years old. I Bill Goldberg should not be competing in a title match as the champion in. Two Thousand Twenty in any capacity Bill Goldberg. If he's going to compete at Wrestlemainia he should be in the legends match. Because I know it's Wrestlemainia and they have to have one every year that's fine because there does need to be a few you know breaks like this is cool this is Hogan versus the rock or a triple h versus the undertaker or whatever we we need some of those but he shouldn't be the champion is ridiculous that he's the champion but the fucking belt on somebody like Like Dolphin Ziglar or Alastair black or ricochet or Kevin. Owens are seth rollins or any of these younger guys that you have that fans will get behind. Put the belt on them. The thing that bothers me the most about the Goldberg thing like I know that Bray Wyatt wasn't the most popular as far as like an in ring performer. But like he had. He went on this whole journey throughout the last year after he reinvented his character and everything was like super well done from a reduction standpoint from a writing standpoint with him from a character standpoint and they had all these feuds for him made sense and they have. This feud going into this weekend with John. Cena that makes a Lotta sense but somewhere along the line. They were like well. We gotta take the fell off. We're going to put him on on Goldberg Goldberg. Squashes Bray Wyatt. Who could be the next undertaker for the WWe he get squashed by Goldberg and Saudi Arabia for the championship? Which just like thankfully didn't kill the character because he's got a great. What seems to be a great match coming up with John Cena. It's supposedly his baby but if this matches has so much creative energy put into it. Why isn't the championship involved? The the best thing they could have done with Wyatt is a don't put the belt on him in the first place now. That was a horrible mistake. I need it. Be Or be if they're gonNA put the belt on him like if they want to get it off of Seth rollins because that's who he beat right now he'd be insufferable. If they want to get it all for Seth rollins which is apparently what they wanted to do. Then Have Bray Wyatt win it but the next night have him. Come out and cut a promo and say you know. I don't want this shit. I don't need your trinkets and throw it in the garbage. And they've been very intimate vacated title and then do a tournament or something. I know. Vince hates tournaments but do a tournament for the new champion. And then let somebody other than Seth Rollins win. I mean that's it's not that hard like you can control the narrative it's fake quote unquote. It's not like you get done at bring riot like all you have to do is just and it makes sense in. Bray. Wyatt's world that he doesn't want belt now. His his literal story line has been all about revenge and biting has really nothing to do with their. Yeah at that point. He could have just laid it out and been like. I don't need this and and there have been of those fans doesn't make any sense but like it would have been like work and old bird. Yeah four or five months later. We wouldn't have cared about it anymore. Like Ray White could've still had his feud with Daniel Bryan and Bray. Wyatt could still be feuding with John. Seen it Wrestlemainia like everything's they had to do. Just have him vacate the belt because he doesn't need it or want it and you you brought up a good point. He had. He had the potential to be this century or century. This generation's undertaker. The undertaker never needed to be champion. He was but he never needed. The undertaker started out as literally an undertaker like he was a literal build coffins and buried people in them undertaker and then in the attitude era has mystique it got crazier and crazier than he became like a warlock with powers. Shit but you know he never needed it. He was bigger than the bell. And the fiend version of Bray. Wyatt could have been bigger than the bill. If Vince would have just let him do it. But you know just as well as I do and anybody else who watches. Wwe knows this. Vince McMahon hates it when someone else gets over on their own like the witch to me. That's the stark difference between aws and wwe. Awa they go. Hey you got ten minutes. Go get over. Wwe They're like. Hey you've got ten minutes. Here's your script. Don't do anything. That's not a piece of paper you know don't go. You can't get yourself over because Vince isn't ready for you to get over and it. It cheapens the product. The sad part about the Bray Wyatt situation is that they did throw their weight behind him. But because of the fact that Goldberg showed up on one smackdown prior to that Saudi Arabia pay per view. It changed their entire plans. And They. Because that that specific. That's no because like Goldberg. Being involved in any capacity is going to bring you the ratings like he could fight he could fucking sphere the shit out of ziglar at Wrestlemainia people tune in to see it. Mike. So it's just a matter of being out of touch with the booking and I I agree about the a w thing I mean. That's the reason why warrants cassidy is like the biggest star they have right now. Yeah and he's just some doodoo sticks his hands pockets with his with his jeans and does some Crazy Shit. But he's the most over guy in the whole fucking the whole fucking thing for maybe job. Moxley Mike in this because they let them be themselves but all these wrestlers that are w e they're saying the main reason is because Vince would not let them do what they wanted to do and try to make a great point. You make a great point because we were talking about a W Brodie Lee Aka. Luke Harper is a great example of that. I know you and I talked about this. A little bit. But during the feud that he had with With Randy Orton. So Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton for the listeners. Here who may not have paid attention? Randy Orton and Bray. Wyatt had had a really slow burn. Feud that was honestly really well done That built up for several months for them to collide Wrestlemainia and during that Feud Luke Harper who is one of Bray Wyatt's disciples in storyline was basically figuring out that Randy Orton a being allies with Bray. Wyatt was all just a farce. It was great it was ran your way of getting inside of the Wyatt family. Just a fuck everything up and fuck Bray Wyatt over and Luke Harper realized that in the story line before they even started this story line. Luke Harper Aka Brodie Lee told the writers. Hey if you put me in this position I'm going to get over and there. I know we're writing the way where you it'll be fine and guess what. Luke. Luke Harper. Got Over to the point where the crowds were always chanting his name so ww just kind of like pushed into the background and pretend that he didn't exist because they do wrestlers. Know that. What's going to get over and what's not right. It's amazing how that happens when wrestlers are especially a guy like Lou Park Luke Harper. Who actually like would benefit from getting over like made the decision to say. Hey I'm going to get over and that's not what you want. Don't do this and they said No. You don't know what you're talking about so now you have a guy who could have been a really big draw for you. He's now in a w making fun of Vince. Mcmahon and A thing about Brodie Lee. And if you've listened if you listened to the Chris Jericho podcast. He talks to brutally Brodie. Lee said that he when he first got there he went and talked. Vince McMahon and Vince McMahon. Said I need you to do a southern accent and brody lease like I'm from Rochester. New York I don't do a southern accent and vessels like well you've got to and because he looks like He. I want you to try in Louisiana and once. Vince McMahon sees you as something that's it that's what you are no matter what and he couldn't process that. Luke Harper was intelligent and was from the north but looked like that and so he'd never could. He never could break the glass ceiling as they like to say and grabbed the brass ring which is complete bullshit. Another example of of that Zack Ryder. You know Vince is always you know. Go grab that brass ring. Get yourself over in and we'll see how it goes back right or did that and he was buried did that. He did it on his own. Youtube Channel Yea. He did that on the Internet. He didn't even do it in front of live crowds. You got himself over using youtube. Which something at the time? No other superstar had done is just said superstar. God's Sakes on Michael Cole. No other wrestler had done using using youtube to get themselves over like they used a third party platform to get themselves over in their own company. It was remarkable and it was remarkable and he got an intercontinental championship reign that lasted a whole day. Out of it. Yeah they should have put the intercontinental championship on him and giving it to him for like six months it was a genius move and a normal booker would have rewarded him for it. He did exactly what he's supposed to do. He went out and got over with the fans and it cost him and it wasn't like he's been a joke character ever since I mean I don't even know is he even still in. Wwe Yet he shows up from time to time for like locker room brawls and other tag teams It's it's funny. How the happens when because it wasn't like rider was a bad performer. I remember he put on a several matches that were actually really good like he had he has adult of a move set almost like Dolphin Ziglar at times like where he can crowd not quite as good but he also looks more like a performer of that but he also looks more like a wrestler. Yeah but it's just it's McMahon like hey go out there and get over no not like that. Yup though we could be seeing a change soon. I'm a little optimistic about it. I know we touched on Wrestlemainia a little bit earlier but Wrestlemainia will be two nights this year this weekend and to touch on that idea of getting yourself over getting putting the spotlight and becoming the guy. They seem to be finally letting drew. Mcintyre be that guy he's GonNa face brock who is obviously the top of the top in the WB. He's the champion right now. He's been champion so many times of the last fucking how many years and he won the royal rumble he he actually eliminate Brock Leser in the royal rumble. He had a really awesome genuine moment. Like I was saying earlier. Where like you those moments? Where you're that you actually are there for as a wrestling fan. He had one of those when he won the royal rumble and you saw his genuine like celebration and appreciation of the moment and he's going to face brock listener granted. Not in front of like anybody. Because it'll be in the performance center and it's all taped and it's already been predetermined but they have the opportunity this Sunday to put the guy over. What do you think that Brad? Well what I think they should do and what they will do. Two different things tires should absolutely. They're not a will I don't know But at the same time I almost think that brock listeners should retain because there's no crowd I mean like that's going to take away from the moment from him. I think if the if the crowd was going to be there you absolutely put. The title on drew McIntyre. But what I think they should do now because of the current situation with the the covert nineteen keeping people from being there they should just have brock retain and they should have the rematch at summer slam in front of in front of the crowd and have drew McIntyre win there because he deserves to win the title in front of a maxed out hot crowd. Yet you bring up actually something that I did want to discuss anyway so we can segue right into it. Why the fuck are they having Wrestlemainia right now? I mean like I get it. I'm appreciative because I know there are going to be a few matches that I'll enjoy while I'm sitting at home doing nothing but Wrestlemainia is not the same when there's not a crowd there to appreciate the moments because that that just adds to the moment and the WB has stubbornly decided to go forward with wrestlemainia happening this weekend with no crowd. Yeah there's positives and negatives to it like you said the crowd not being. There is a big negative. Because that's usually like seventy five percent of what makes Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia right? But at the same time there's a lot of these feuds that are going on but they have to end and they can't stretch him out for three to six months since that rollins comes to mind like stuff that the story has to end now The one thing about the about Wrestlemainia that I actually like and I hope they they see this as a test run and they continue to do it is the two nights you mentioned this earlier. I think the too big for one night marketing bullshit. I wish Vince would just come out and say why they're doing it. Over two nights you can break k. Fehb and say Hey Dacoven. Nineteen situation is make. Do this like Awa has done and people are going to be okay with it. We know why like it's not like it's a surprise like we know. Hey there's no crowd and his two nights because nobody can fucking go anywhere like we know. But I like the idea of two three and a half hour shows because I've watched wrestlemainia in the past and it is a chore because eight hours of anything in one sitting is hard to watch definitely if you're there like where you're actually using your lungs exhausting because you have to get there like a couple hours early You have to stay late and I mean it starts. Because they do these outdoor stadiums. It starts at like five o'clock. Yeah something like that coming up pretty. Soon they get the pre show matches going and around like seventy kicks off your out and I. It's it's over like at eleven thirty or even midnight and that's a long ass show. Yeah that's longer than like most that's longer than by really anything from a performance standpoint music or otherwise like even even like a show where you have an opener amid card and the for the main event as far as like a music show doesn't usually go that long and I understand it to a degree because a lot of these wrestlers get paid bonuses for being wrestlemainia and Vince tries to get everybody on the show. That's why they have the thirty man. Andre the giant battle royal thing because it's an easy way to get everybody on the show but my God is just there's like there's no need for fourteen matches at Wrestlemainia now. You don't need more than him one night anyway. So having seven on one night at seven on the other night is good and I know they're not going to split it up this way but what I would like to see them do is have all of the women's matches on one night and all of the men's matches on the other night and have to separate wrestlemanias like that They at least should have becky Lynn Chen. I think it's a shane obeys ler Depp. Based main event one of the two nights and then the brock last nerve drew McIntyre match main event the other. But you know who knows what they're GONNA do. Well obviously that's knows because they've done it but I don't mind them doing it at the performance center. I mean I do get the. Vince is like bold. We're GONNA put on a show. I'm Vince McMahon. God damnit because that's the way he is but I mean I I would cancel it. That's what I would have done. I would have said we're not GONNA do wrestlemainia this year will do a hell just name it something else in your house you know. Bring back that or just name it something else. Don't call it Wrestlemainia. And then just do summer slam as Wrestlemainia. Yeah it just diminishes the value of the wrestlemanias rand it. It diminishes the value of Wrestlemainia. Yeah because that's that's the time that everybody works up to. It's like there's going to be so many so many matches that like mean a fucking lot and had been building for how long ordinate Randy Orton and edge is one where it's like. You can't have that in front of not in front of a crowd like it's going to be a great match no matter what 'cause fucking amazing in the ring but you can't not you can't have that last man standing match without a crowd. Bray Wyatt and John Cena. They can get away with it because I think they're going to do some kind of cinematic you know. They're going to essentially Ardian Jeff. Hardy did their house like in their backyard or some shit so that they can get away with. Which would be fine to main event this card but like and another match like a street fight like a parking lot brawl or something like they should do things like that instead of doing it in the rain in the arena with fans right like Becky Lynch Shane and Shane of Basil. Or if they really wanted to make this happen they could just do exactly what you said just making a street fight or something like that where they're out fighting in the fucking like back of the area or something like that shoot an angle. Where one of them is working out in the gym and the other one shows up and they start scrapping like just you know. I mean there's plenty of ways to get around it without having a crowd to not put it in an empty arena. Yeah I mean. Aws doing the same thing and them criticism for it to the first night that they did the no crowd where they had the wrestlers as the quote unquote crowd was the best show. They've ever done And it's understandable why they couldn't do that again because the city of Jacksonville told them you can't do this again. you can't have that many people in the in the building even though it's an open air amphitheatre. You can't do that again. You have ten people in the in the same place at the same time. That's all you can do. So the next week was significantly worse. It was rescued by the angle with Chris. Jericho Matt Hardy. That did help but there was clear difference in quality between the two and Awa also. They're doing the same thing. Wwe Is doing. They've moved to a secret location. They're filming hopefully they're filming a bunch of stuff. Because I have a feeling they're going to get told you can't do anything at all. Yeah I behold into TNT and USA and Fox to put programs on television and with a w you know. They've only been around for a year. They don't have a massive library of. Shit like wwe does so they have to do something but wwe has no reason to film wrestling matches right now they can just show highlights of Shit. That's on the network. They can show like you know an episode of Monday night raw from nineteen ninety nine if they really wanted to Bake it re air like Saturday night. Main event they could show old school stuff They can educate fan on who like who Bruno San Martino is. You know things like that. It doesn't have to be wrestling in an empty arena with no fans right and even if you want the new content can still figure a way to make it happen like having the guys cut promos on each other cam to like their own cameras or something like that building up or just like just even just taking a peek into the lives of them when they're not rest lake you know it's there's not much going on right now so people are gonNA tune in. I know it's not going to get the same ratings as like having actual matches and like having an actual episode of smackdown a raw. But you think you would still be the same because the what are People GonNa Watch. There's nothing else on like. It's not like they can watch a baseball game in group and watch any other sport so like with aws just show episodes of being the elite. That's true that would be pretty good. I mean you know just do that. Just aws actually missing out. They have an opportunity to explain a lot of things to people because they're so new they can be like well. This is why it's all elite wrestling. This is why this Kenny Omega is. This is who the young bucks are. This is who hangman page. Is You know they have an opportunity to do that stuff and I hope they do but you know. Wwe Like he's like we've said they don't have to keep filming. They can just show us old stuff or they can just health fight in the parking lot somewhere. Yeah helped recreate the stone. Cold Steve Austin and booker. T go where they fought in a grocery store. I don't know if you've ever seen that I have. It's brilliant is brilliant stone. Call the shit out of Booker T in a grocery store. Yeah just do that. They could definitely like string together. Some film segments to go along with these highlights. To not to like mitigate the risk their suit to their wrestlers and still put on like something entertaining not just highlights. Yeah but that's the world wrestling for you fucking Shitty I do I. I'm not GonNa Complain Right now about the fact that we have some pre-tape Wrestlemainia shit going on this weekend. But after that I'm like maybe you should just like shut down like they've already done at this point so it's like yeah same age w already filmed it same with aws. I know they're filming as much shit as they can till they get shut down but after that like let's not force let's let's just embrace the fact that this is where we're at in this country and this is where we're at in the world and let's just see aws they they don't have wrestlemainia yet like now. Don't have anything like that right now. They've got their double or nothing. Pay Per view at the end of May. That's probably not going to happen. But it's just their second one like they're still in their infancy and WWe this wrestlemainia. What thirty five or thirty six? Something like that I mean like. Wwe is a a middle aged man and aws a toddler and they ate w. should just like they did one thing that I will give them credit for that. They had a blood and guts. Almost pay per view episode dynamite lined up and they've postponed it because that has to happen in front of a live crowd which was around with that was self aware. But you know Vince. Mcmahon is is not self aware now not at all and so I mean it's I just I. I love watching it every week but I really don't know how much longer I can watch. Empty arena stuff and I hope that they do the sensible thank both companies and. Wwe should be taking this opportunity to shut down for a couple of weeks and they can press the reset button on the whole fricken company and start from scratch and do things the right way. But they won't do it. Nope not until a certain. Someone is dead. Yeah yeah that's wrestling for you folks and yeah we haven't even we were elsewhere along. WanNa touch on with this I don't think so. I think I've pretty much covered everything. Yeah I mean we're just. Vince McMahon. I really wish he would just admit that. The Corona Virus A- pandemic is. What's causing all this stuff? Instead of knowledge it like the Roman reigns thing. Roman reigns as immuno-compromised because he just fought leukemia. And he's asked to be pulled from Wrestlemainia Baylor. As of yesterday they were still advertising. He was going to be on. The show. Have have a title match now. Roman reigns had to be the one to come out and say that he rental mania that is Bullshit. You cannot do that the wwe come out and said we are looking out for. Roman reigns health because we understand the risks of the covert nineteen outbreak. And we are protecting him from himself. They should have done that the the day he said. Hey I don't want to do this. They should've shot an angle where he was suspended. Or some shit like that if they want to keep it. K- FEHB but that should have been at the that the MS showed up sick to one of their filming pissed about it and that was when Roman reigns pulled himself out. And it's like you just undermined one of your top stars by making him be the one to break the bad news to everybody that he won't be a Wrestlemainia. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah and that's really from the MS. Yeah well I don't even know if it's Shitty from a MRS standpoint because like I imagine he was sick asks. What if you have the if you have the the the the virus but you're not symptomatic like you don't know you have it? It's one thing to do that like if he's not sick. I don't put blame on the MS. Because it's not like he knew he had it but he allegedly. He was sick when he showed up. Why are you showing up? Yeah probably more. Wwe Shit to be honest. I mean I mean. Don't get me wrong. I love the MS performer. But that I lost a lot of respect for that for him after that yeah I guess we'll see what comes out from but yeah just just remarkable considering the rest of the country. In the way they're reacting everything for the. Wwe Did not follow suit. It's not hard to follow suit. Like you're you're not going to get blown up in the media by following suit with the rest of the fucking country but yeah. I think that's why they're they're going on with. Vince is afraid that he will lose. Like people will stop watching or whatever but it's like dude the NBA the NHL Major League. Baseball The Bundesliga Premier League. Mls fucking UEFA like all of these companies and federations in sports leagues. And all this they have all shut down already it. You're not you're not alone. It's not like you're the first person to do it. Yeah just bite. The bullet settled down. But you're wrestlers be safe and then come back when people aren't at risk of killing their co workers but that's not. The Vince McMahon way. As we know you know I'm not surprised by it. Well one other thing. It's not really current events. Who's your favorite wrestler of all time? Ooh Boy I'm probably still say Randy Orton. You can pick like more than one you can have one from like the first decade started and like the best one currently like your favorite wrestler. Currently all right. We're so many to choose from I. Obviously I said earlier. That Randy Orton was one of my favorites currently my favorite like wwe wrestler would be promptly. Still Bray Wyatt though. I do really like the. He'll work that. Seth rollins is doing from a w. I'd probably say Jon Moxley only because this is like everything that I wanted them to do with him when he was in. Wwe And now he's allowed to be what there were glimpses of when he was actually working in Wbz he's now just a bad aspects to beat people up which is all he needs to be so it was mine. Yeah I don't think I could narrow it down to just one I asked you a question. I don't even know if I can answer myself All Time it would be a tie between either Macho Man Randy Savage Eddie Guerrero or stone cold. Steve Austin I liked author choices for deep for different reasons. currently wwe. I don't know if I really could say I have a favorite. Wwe wrestling right now. 'cause I don't watch the product that that much anymore I'm a big fan of Kevin Owens I. He's I'm a huge fan of the current iteration of Sammy Zane. He's hit the shithead. He'll Sammy Zane. I love that iteration of his character but my favorite wrestler in. Aws have to one's a face in WANNA heal My favorite face right now is Darby Allen. I really liked it. He is in my opinion. He has the potential to be the next Like Shawn Michaels type okay. He is going to blow up He's he's really good at what he does. He does the only suicide dive through the ropes. That is believable. Because he actually if you watch him do it. He actually hits people. He doesn't catch them with his hands. Oh Yeah I remember when he when he suicide dived into Jon Moxley when they had their match which was a fucking fantastic match. Like moxie jumped over the barricade and it looked like Darby Al hit and it was like a car crash when they have that all the time. He's the only one I've seen that that does it that way. Everybody else goes out hands I to catch themselves. You know to protect themselves but Debbie Allen doesn't give a shit he just dives. It's actually a suicide dive when he does it. But my favorite he'll and he's the greatest he'll in wrestling today. I don't care what company it's four bar. Non IS M J F. Oh Yeah I knew your same out. He's such shit. Head IS THE BEST. He'll in wrestling Barnum bar. None I mean. He gave a seven year old middle finger at an autograph signing told the the Dad to basically fuck off including for the kid to meet and greet him. Jfk and NJ flipped them off. I would say I do love Chris. Jericho what he's doing is a reinvented character. I just if I were to say top. He'll he's not healed enough for me because there are times where I'm like. I Love Christine Mixed. He's not really a heel or face. Cutting promos on drones like come on now. Yeah Yeah and he is doing his best work and in years. Yes with the notable exception of the period. Wwe where you had the list. Yeah which was just his reckless reckless. Abandon trying to get that shit over which he totally did. Yeah the cheesiest thing you say. W. Character he had our am I. It might have even been when he first got in the wwe but he he was the man of a thousand and four holds now is. I do remember that as the Malingco was the man of a thousand holes. Jericho cut a promo where he lived. All thousand and four of his holes and like eight hundred. Seventy five of them were arm bar and but he can take shit like that and get it over your craft. It's what happens when you let wrestlers do what they do. Yeah you put them through Promo School and then you don't Hannah script crazy. How that works. Yeah I mean and you know we've talked about the Dow WWe but the downfall wwe was twofold a when they bought WCW eliminated their competition granite. Wcw had gone to absolute dog. Shit because Events Russo. But be when they started having writers. Yeah that ruined it necessarily just writers because like the wrestlers who were given guidelines can still some decent promos thing. Yeah but these guys most of them. They're given a complete. It's like a movie like this is what you have to say you're fired. Yeah and it's like Chris. Jericho has said I think it was with Brodie Lee. In his interview. Brody was given the microphone as the the Exalted. One and they before they were he was going out there. He they were like okay. Well what am I supposed to say? And they're like I don't know that's for you to figure out he was like. Oh God what do I do because he do this? Yeah well safe to say at work down for Brody Lisa. I am excited to see what happens. When we finally get out of this corona virus and see what a w and maybe W W can put together with some time off. Sell to be good time but yeah. I think what we're GONNA get is a generation Monday night war. It's going to be Wednesday night but we're going to get like Vince doesn't take it seriously yet while he does a little bit because he's not releasing wrestlers anymore because he knows they're going to go to aws but he's not taking it as seriously as he took. Monday nitro and when he starts doing that. Wwe is going to improve. Yeah yeah definitely will. Especially because like from a product to product standpoint. Annex T is most similar to eighty. W and that's because triple H is running it. Once they pull those those superstars wrestlers. Or what have you back in? Who can really excel in the NFC limelight guys like Zarro? Don't get me started off as Ara like even Kevin Owens like you pull two guys like that back and you got a lot of star power. So I'm excited to see when that happens but sucks lately ruined. Yeah over in like three different ways than they still never let him get. Can't talk like a promo to save his life but he doesn't need to talk. Look now just having go out there and beat the shit out of people he could be the face version of Jake. Hager in eight W Jack has not said a word since he signed with a w I mean like that that feud with allistair black his first feud in the main roster was fucking fire and then it was just but after Alastair Black beat them that one time then it all just you know all right. He beat he beat sorrow. Let's move on where it could have been like an awesome like several match feud but because it Alastair Blacks debut he wasn't gonNA lose to like. Yeah I mean he's says ro is arguably the best wrestler in WWe. Yeah but sleep wrestlers. He wants entertainers. Yeah that's why people like Massat like Mustafa Ali. Just get forgotten about. Yeah Rick Shay. Yeah he's been made like chump. Yeah they finally like it looked like they were gonNA take him seriously get he get squashed by brock luxuries. Like almost not been heard from since like course to be fair brought listeners should beat the shit out of him I mean. Yeah but he has great matches with guys like Daniel Bryan Ray mysterious too. So it's like you could have given him at least something. Yeah some offense for Fuck Sake. But W E formula. You don't fit the mold. Yeah go back to the mid card where you go to die. Does that make cards? Crowded talked about it. Yeah Awa introduced They're having an eight man tournament and I think they're gonNA film everything before they potentially shut down with the corona virus but they have an eight man tournament for their introducing television title. Who THAT'S THE? It's called a t and t title. I'm not really crazy championship. I'm not really crazy about the name but on one hand calling it. The television title is unoriginal boring. And that's what ring of honor uses and I think the NWEA uses the TV title too. But so that'S UNORIGINAL. So they had to come up with something original they can't call it the US or the intercontinental or the European because or North American because wwe owns all those trademarks row. They didn't have very many choices. But I mean it also makes sense because it comes on. Tnt and TNT is another word for dynamite so from that perspective it makes sense. But it's it's an eight man tournament and it's the winner of the final is supposed to be at the pay per view in. May but I don't know if they'll have the pay per view really depends on a lot of things but it's mid card. Guys that are competing for like Darby Allen Insanely Guevarra is is one of the first round. Matches cody is in the tournament Lance Archer. Who is recently debuted is in the tournament Dustin Rhodes is in the tournament. You know as those guys that aren't in the main title scene but it's a mid card title to give those guys something to do because they've got a solid mid card they definitely do one hundred percent and they're like wwe and they have a really good mid card but they're unlike wwe and they're actually using them and giving them something to do. Yeah rather than them. Just get squashed all the time. Because let's be fair to wwe and give them props major props the twenty four seven title has been one of the most entertaining things that they've come up with and that should have been an absolute failure it absolutely. It's the dumbest shit but it works. Yeah it it reminds me of the core title that they had back in the but it's even more ridiculous than that ridiculous but the hardcore title was they gave Mick Foley broken title bell and he duct taped together and then they just started having matches where they could defend it anytime anywhere and it's basically the same thing as this is our truth. Still The champion. I think so. Yeah our truth is a national treasure. Yeah he John Wayne Anything over. He is great he should have gotten much better treatment from W. Evening. He did but he's taken every everything they give him a run with it and excelled at it. South Prophecy. You Are Truth Bravo it makes me sad sometimes get talked for an hour and almost an hour and a half about wrestling. We did without John. John Yeah Yeah. We're GONNA have to show him some some clips so he can give us his unbiased perspective on wrestling these days combination of all some things that have happened like Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania. Yeah I was GONNA show him ED returning as well edge returning. We'll have to show him the context and show him edges retirement speech. Yeah and then. Show him the recurring. Show Him Lake Chris. Jericho talking to vanguard one. Yeah 'cause we gotTA show him some ridiculous Shit to definitely gotTA show him. Bray Wyatt putting rambling rabbit in a blender and drinking him on on TV on a PG show. Yeah that's another thing that's ruin wwe by the way the move to PG. Oh yeah definitely horrible. Have to be like R. rated or anything but that could be TV fourteen. Like A W is because Awa doesn't go overboard. Yeah it's just Chris Air Kokin say you're a piece of shit affable at nine thirty at night on cable. Yeah Yeah I mean. They don't have to go full attitude era and go back to like exploiting the women or anything. They don't have to be sexualizing people but they they could make it a little more risk risque. Yeah when someone someone a bitch and everyone's like all they said bitch that's that's not. That's yeah I mean I like. Yeah that's harmful thing. That Stephanie McMahon is heard all like when like when two kids to each other middle school one of them calls the other one a bitch. It's like oh they said bitch like yeah yeah childish I understand the the mindset behind it trying to draw in more people because obviously the larger audience going to be the PG rated but man just nice to like have even like twenty five percent return to the to the attitude era in that air in that in that area anyway. I'll think the thing that Vince needs to realize is wrestling is not going to be like mainstream mainstream. It's not going to be baseball or football or basketball. It's wrestling. You already have a core group of insanely loyal fans. Give them what they want. Yeah we'll see sometime in the next ten years. Maybe Yeah Yeah. I think that probably about wraps up. We can talk for a while about wrestling. Yeah well anything else. You'd like to add before we get off of here about Wrestlemainia Ray. W or anything like that If you are a lapsed wrestling fan and you don't like wwe and you think wrestling has gone downhill. Awa chance you can watch it on. Tnt on Wednesday nights. It actually came on as we were doing this. I need to watch tonight's episode. I haven't watched it yet but I think you can catch all of their old episodes on T. and T.'s APP. I don't know how far back they go or how much their library they keep for free. I know if you if you have Hulu you can probably catch some of their stuff on Hulu and if you have if you go to youtube you can watch their Awa dark. Which is they're kind of like their version of WWE'S T. As the the lesser known people on enough they had they had. Jon Moxley on. Yeah I haven't watched it yet. I tend to attend to not watch dark that often. Because it's gotten to where it's I hate to be this way but it's all the AWA. I don't really like that are on dark. Like they've gotten smart and found that they need to put the stars that people want to watch on dynamite and so they're giving all the lesser stars time on dark so I haven't really been following it that much But I need to watch last night's because Moxley was on there. But if you want to get good idea of what a w can do you can watch dark on. Youtube and you can watch dynamite on TNT. And it's it's an alternative wrestling product for people who want to watch old school. Wcw wrestling because that's what it is and you might recognizing people in there obviously recognize some people if watch. Wwe In the last ten years. Yep Chris Jericho's treat Matt. Hardy just recently debuted Brodie Lee K- We carpers on there. Now they're starting Jake Hager Aka. Yeah Gold Dust is on their Jake Hager Aka wa was his name and WWe Jack Swagger. Yes so there's a few people you might recognize if you watch. Wb over the last ten years but yeah if you're just looking at like zone out and enjoy some wrestling for a little bit definitely worth checking in even if you don't follow along and watch the paper views the weekly shows are still pretty fucking good so yeah and if you were going to start with one. I suggest watching the first empty arena. Show where all the wrestlers were in the crowd. Yeah 'cause that's the best show they've done. Yeah yeah well. We hope that you enjoyed our wrestling. Centric episode of the keep sounding podcast today. we're going to be bringing you to more diversified content here soon along with some panthers related content as well just going to be popping out some more episodes here and there as we deal with. Kobe. Nineteen outbreak and locked down. So this is Brad joined joining me without John. The first time in a bit but John has always been known to go off and do his own thing from time to time Stay safe stay healthy. Wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Don't gather among more than ten people and we'll talk to you assume. See you guys later.

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The Rack 01-23-20

The Rack Radio Show

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The Rack 01-23-20

"Talk Radio DOT COM. This is the fire house and I want to introduce you to some very special friends ends that I've met along the way. E C three has Max Crown King Robert from the Royal. This is the undisputed future seth rollins favors gains from wwl. Hello this is. Wwe Hall of Famers heartbreak. Kit Shaw Mike. I'm Russell and I'm from Las Vegas. Hi this is green and this is McKee and what are the balanced This is broken. Nod Haughty greatest manager. Ever live always good rack. And you're listening to the greatest rack is guaranteed guaranteed the lie Christy. Love Kick Ball all back taken souls and digging holes. I'm GonNa Break Your pets you hear me with your host and they've been lying to you heroes. Heroes don't exist y'all become addicted to the illusion of what a hero does for you and I mentioned that I was once addicted to eating sponges. Z. See war we will be woman and you can just call me. Oh my God. It's take care taker taker. 'cause take your hate me. 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I Rose Lindsey Award joining the as always is the ever faithful producer sash co host slash cheater cheater. PUMPKIN eater Sarokin. We're live right here while talk. Radio DOT COM radio show DOT COM twix. That he resents outlawed talk radio at record and show at lives on the twitter rumble night. y'All we're here to talk about the royal rumble. But that's not the only thing we're talking about. We're also talking about worlds collide. The scheduled to be done by the assistant to the assistant. Regional analysts. The intern Cancun's very exciting stuff. So yes so this is going to be a relatively long part show hopefully not We're GONNA get lucky on one of the rebels because there's only five people announce for it so That will be a little bit shorter analysis. But yeah so we're talking. Roll rumble tonight. We are talking in. Xt when worlds collide tonight We will. We'll be doing twitter the week in the second half of the show but there will be none of your other favorites. I'm so sorry we are talking. Little INEX- teak as we're talking about view things happen on an x t this week but you know other than that. We're not doing any of the other favorite so I say we get right into the rumble barber friends over in BG films Youtube Dot Com Slash in BG twelve. Eleven right on top. Make sure Margot Mario facebook dot com slash groups. That's facebook dot com slash while took our facebook dot com slash recreation show or tweet us while talk radio your picks for the Royal Rumble. which is this Sunday live only on the wwe starting at five pm eastern with the kickoff show cleared and I? It's it's weird. They're promoting like hey on on Fox like yeah starts at five. PM Eastern. That's a weird deponent's dying five in such a five. Yes we we did say picks Brent we did say picks we'll be doing picks here in a minute let's start with picks let's start with picks. Let's go through some matters on the show. This I think we'll probably be the pre ratio. Yeah I'm guessing this is pre show. It's going to be Chad Gable versus shame as I am not calling him the other name. I refused. Call Him that name is sure to jeeves. Dave is is Chad Gable rise above size surely gee I can rise above shies and call him. The correct name is name. Name is Chad Gable when you go to shop dot com you look shortage. CAS Shirts Asia. I don't care it doesn't matter because he's going into died shameless his foot. You sure remember. I'm fairly sure. Shameless came back. Yes shameless came. Back has really done much. He's just beat up for Jason Inches. Come back but you. There isn't scenario. Where shameless could get all cocky and G Use a small package and get the win and pissed off. Shameless shameless beats up shortly. After I mean that is a scenario that could happen. You do realize right. I do realize it but that being side Chambers Cohen but shortage e should shoot did he has is all the possibilities he could rise above the Fella. I don't think you can rise above the Fella I mean you could. You might be able to rise above the fellow but there's no way are you can rise above his hair. It's too pointy no. That was the old hair. There's not as pointy. It's still very tall right but the other hair was really point lately. You you just touch that thing you you. It was like it was like there's so much hairspray and SHELLAC on that I don't know how he got that thing to relax under other than he just stood under water for two hours he might have had to. I mean props to the to the Glam the Glam squad forget you get nothing to stand up Brent. I did not say picking GM to stay. Surely G has a market for it. No I'm picking chambers. You said it. I didn't insured. She has a chance. I gave the area where you know. No no no you went with him. But but the scenario you you said it out there in the universe narrow pit no. It's not my pick. I'm picking shameless. I'm pretty sure that's his pick chat. Is that his pick. I pick a shameless Bryant right. Dan Shameless you. Love more like I said I have the also can go in and and she put down chambers. Remember number this so just save the work. We have a recording. That statement cable though that word never came out my mouth. Let's be real. Those words never came out of my mouth. I'm going Brent. Is the keeper cheaper list. He can keep it correct. Shame I mean he doesn't necessarily have to give you this list until showtime and actually he doesn't even even have to give it to you he could send it to me. You're not okay breaking news Lindsay's on the show Sunday. I'm not on the show Sunday. I'm not doing show Sunday but you know. Xl has a wonderful ability to like break stuff out so he could create a whole new workbook invented. It can't get to it to be one of those nights nights. It's going to be one of those nights eight ball who you go with shameless shortage e e mail it to never find it. Aibo will shortage E win. This imagine. That's the question I should ask. CONCENTRATE ESCHEDE AIBO will shameless win fast. Trying again we'll shave. April April. Shame as I say with Lindsay says Chug able. I said shame as I said he was going to die to shameless boot. That was exactly what I said. He was going to die to the foot going to die to the foot. Midday on smackdown. John Women's championship is on the line. As Bailey takes on a lay see Evans made this point on on Sunday. I want to see what do you think. This is the secondary match to the match they really want to do. And that's lacey versus Sasha but we never get it. It's like Bailey's the backroom player in this match. I'm going to say this and I don't mean it to sound mean but Bailey is always the background player even as champion. She's the background in player. She has been from the get-go ever since she came back. No fence to Bailey. No offense to Sasha but came back in they put them together. Bailey has been the background player. She is the bridesmaid. Not the bride. Sasha's The star they're they're making that very parent and while I feel like this will be a good ish match. It has the potential to be good. It has the potential good Lacey's gotten a lot better but it just depends on what we get Sunday night I'm not really feeling this this. I'm not really into this. I'm going to be really perfectly honest. They've done what they can with this. But there's not a lot of chemistry to me between taily in Lacey no because again. It's Sasha and Lissi as few Sasha has the personal beef Bailey's just doing the actions. Yeah so I'm going. I'm going to say they're gonNA keep it on Bailey because they have plans for Bailey at mania both the probably involve the winner of the rumble. Maybe maybe or you have Together flip side to that. I don't know if you have Sasha turns because the Gimmick is seen as be he'll Sushi can't turn to a face turn Bailey back as phase. You could see so conflicted on Bailey. Because I feel like she's really really trying and she really wants to make this work. I love that she really wants to make it work but I feel like the problem is is. It's not really working that well and and we're all kind of don't take it very seriously. Well just kind of look at it and go okay. Karen sure janitor. That's what we're doing right now because it's like we can't I can't take it. It's seriously I can't. I'm sorry I get what she's trying to do but she's there's a certain level of discomfort that shows through on her that that makes it just one hundred percent not believe all to me if I I don't mean to make that sound snobbish. After so long dealing with US her way this feels forced. It feels not doc. It's not natural. Goes against who she actually is. We assume but when Bailey got pissed off and beat the shit out of Sasha and turn on Sasha and walked away from her that was legit like you believed that because there's so much history between Bailey and Sasha it it makes a thousand percent sets why Bailey. Did it like it absolutely. Does this this. This didn't make as much sense and it doesn't the other than you're keeping your enemy really really close why. She's aligned with Sasha and why she's allowing Sasha to be the star and Herbie background player. She's the Women's champions. She should be serving the fact that she needs to be in the spotlight. She waited for this for years to get her turn in the Sun after are being behind Charlotte and Sasha and even becky like Bailey's waited for her offer Opportunity to be in the sun. Now here it is is and she's playing Sackville Sasha. She told he's playing second fiddle. And you want her to get this breakout. You want her to break away. You want her to be Something more this gimmick just doesn't feel right maybe over time you'll get better. Maybe she'll believe a little off a little bit it just I think she's actively working on on it because I think even she's acknowledged that there's like she's having difficulty with it. She's she's having difficulty centering ourself and we've had this conversation before about her. Where when Becky becky hit this what she's doing right now? It's very natural because it's who she is in a way where she is what she believes. I believe in what she believes in. Charlotte is the same way. Sasha is the same way there is a certain level of realism. There that is. He's not in Bailey right now. Because it's I feel like all three of them have a much more natural side to them and the same thing goes through for release the Evans like. I don't want to sit here and talk. Shit About Bailey. Lacey Evans feels a little forced me to but she can come off better as a baby face because her kid she can come up better as a baby faces or kid kid. I love her gear. I think the vintage thing is cool but I feel like that she needs to kind of come out of that and they maybe need to make her or like into the supermom type character record because it's like she. She is so much more bad ass than they really Kinda on and they tell you about it but they don't let her be that bad ass like she's an ex marine. I think she's ex special forces or no she's ex MP. I think she was one of the only Woman Min in her unit light. That's that's pretty pretty wicked all on its own like she can legit mess you up and I get that. They're trying to do the complete sleep polar opposite where she's all girly in everything but I feel like she could be more than that and maybe that will come with time. I don't know I just. I am not feeling lateness match and I hate saying that I really do but I'm just not feeling it. Who are you feeling as a winner? I feel like somehow feel like Sasha's ashes going to get involved but I don't know if she cost Bailey or she cost lacy because if it's on a D Q daily doesn't lose her title but that's a good way to give lacey win over Valiente Sasha without changing the title because that's the whole dilemma is like okay. This program's going to carry through through pass rumble potentially going to carry into mania because honestly they need lacy for the rumble. There's a chance that lacey could recover from this match go into the rumble and win the rumble in Challenge Bailey wrestlemainia there. There is a chance that that could happen. It's a low chance but there's a chance so so I say Bailey retains we'll say somehow lacey picks up a win a Bailey retains so it's GonNa be finished braley retains this won't be the cleanest of finish. Bailey retains magic but will Bailey retainer tunnel on Sunday otherwise rumble better. It's not tell me so. Eight miles going lacey. All right next match up next we have falls count anywhere Roman reigns versus King or written for GonNa do this falls count anywhere. I'm okay with that. I'm I'm fine with that. It lets them amp up the brutality put some smoke and mirrors and place because if it was just Roman and bearing in the ring together in a one on one boy howdy they I would go watch something else. No offense to either one of them but like falls count anywhere. It's like all right. Because here's the thing you can get Barron's boys involved the net and use those and you can just have a massive brawl with this so it should be really fun. Hopefully I don't know who to pick Elo. Hello Roman wins. Roman reigns wins. That's my pick. Yeah I can't argue with that. Throw them they're going to build them up strong going into the rumble. He's gotTa Be Barren Cormon not that this one's then watch it just be barren corporate wins. Because you know I feel like Barron needs the win win right like I feel like every time they try to do something with Baron Corbin they cut his balls off with the embarrassment the win he got the win at TLC right yeah Romanies his win thinking Romans the Winton because barons been getting the wind. I'm going yeah. Yeah Roman Authors Marines win very doubtful. Thanks leave Barron corporate fingers all hell can Corbin for the ball. All right. What's serves are up next in? What should be a very fun match? And lots of interference from Selena Vega. You Have Andrade taking on Humberto Correo for the United States Championship. Another man I could see on the pre show. I'm GONNA GO Andrade. I really really am he. He just want it. Although Ramos cheerio might get involved in this but I think they'd Kinda sorta given up a little bit on Humbert. Oh have they do they do an angle big the big angle to get him back. Recognize GonNa win the Lotto back. I don't know what I think about. Though he's talented but I don't know he reminds me a lot of young Dallas Really Young Dallas. It'd be he just. I just don't connect to them like okay. Here's the problem Humberto town. So he can do the flip dies but there's something missing we don't know anything about him like we don't know who he is. We don't really know what he stands for. We know that he's been excuse. Excuse me throw it into this feud withdraw and he's been Kinda like dealing with Selena and Ramos stereos been backing him up. But we don't know anything about it and we don't know who he is. I don't know what his motivation it other than he's power ranger so I mean I feel like there's just not a connection to him at all and they're not really really doing a lot unless they I mean creative is doing a whole lot to build connection to him. They're just kind of expecting us all to accept him as power ranger and and be happy with him. But it's like I need to know more of the story. I need to know what he's about you know I need to know I need to know more like I wanNA know more. I'm curious. I think he's cute. I think he's very talented. But it's who is he so you look at him and then you go on the other side. There's loose Fale who they've given a backstory to but people just don't seem to really get behind that either I feel like with Moustapha. You have to give him the really big underdog story you kind of have to do with what you did with Kofi Kingston. which which was the plan in reality but no I don't know I just I look at career and I just go good wrestling but in this day and age you need more than good rustling because so much so many wrestlers so much good wrestling? It's like you had to something more to stand out. He just sorta blends in to the pack just being good and has nothing to add to it but at the same time. He's very very young and I feel like he's still growing into himself a little bit and he still trying to figure stuff out so I'm going to give him time and see what he does. But that being said Andrade is GonNa win. I'm Gogo Andrea retains. Hey April is andrade retain no no with an exclamation point very definitive art up next. You have becky Lynch taking on Oscar for the wrong women's championship this is this is is an interesting little match. Because what's on the line is pride. Can becky Oscar one year liver. One year later. Were Oscar. beep right becky now. We're back. It's at rumble. Can becky get the W.. Over her most or her fiercest rival. I'm really looking forward to this because I think this is going to be really really really good and really strong. There's GonNa be a lot of storytelling involved in this year's see a lot of frustration Australian from from Beckham figuring this one. She's going to get frustrated. I think she may do things that becky normally wouldn't do. Because she's trying to overcome Oscar thing they'll be points where becky goes a little too far in things she does. It make could cost her like. I don't think she lose but I think she could get driven to a point where she keeps herself. She could do herself just because like she wants so bad she she may not stop until she does and it may go to a place where it's like I don't know I don't know if like she may grab a chair because because she's frustrated because she can't tap her our something and she gets the acute. I could see that happening because then they can do the rematch etc etc to build on on as you go to Wrestlemania and stuff like that. But I think becky retains I think she wins but I also can see the point where she goes too far and it costs her whether cost title. I'm not sure but I know it could cost her the match. So here's the thing with Becky. She'd been champion for almost a year. She wanted last year Wrestlemainia. Armand I'm on San and this close in issue going to issue. is she going to carry it through to mania that's everybody's question because there is a very real possibility. She could lose it on Sunday that they decide. Okay all right. We're GONNA put the title on Oscar and we're GONNA roll into mania With Oscar as the champion and the new becky versus Oscar for the title. Or Becky Beats Oscar for the title at Mania. Or you give becky different match wjr. That doesn't need the felt like you take the man and the baddest woman on the planet and you let them fight and you go from there. You don't need a for that one man and you do Ms Baseler that one more demore would neither title. Rhonda doesn't Rhonda doesn't need the title if she's coming back becky. Rhonda doesn't need a title. So there is a scenario where she drops the belt because they have other plans put. You don't know anything about Rana knows going like that's pure wild speculation. It's a natural Milton match. It would be a really good match if they did back in Rhonda and you're correct that the title would muddle things because unnecessary. Because it's very clear. Rhonda's probably not back long term. So becky would. It would be clear. The title would stay on Becky which is why the title having no title means anyone could win the match anyway. That's long term thinking. I don't know how to packed like I really don't know because it's like a good see it. I could see becky losing the title but I can also see becky winning. She's still one of the hottest things that they have going. She's the a face Monday night. Raw She's Kinda carrying the company right now like she is legit the man I just don't I don't see them having her lose right before Wrestlemainia but I feel like if she doesn't take the loss now she's not GonNa take it at mania but you could take it after like I don't know Brad goes in order to become champ because asked what have to belts. True true makes a valid point. I don't want Oscar to win win in this week simply because I don't want chant Champ CHOMP OSC Champ Trump Oscar needling four champ champ champ champ or tamp Because she still has the tag mill in one hundred percent much but our Oscar or Oskar. Yeah no I would agree with that. she does have the tag titles with Cari forgot that they were tag champs. Because I haven't defended them in forever a month. It's been one month. It's been forever. It's been bombs. The last paper who was a ladder match one month spend one month. They haven't brought them up since 'cause Kyrie was hurt. I understand this but in the entire your time. That becky's been feuding with sky. Feel like they have not mentioned it once I'm going to say Becky Becky's GonNa roll through the mania. I'm going back to your Mbeki. April was Becky Lynn's can retain on Sunday night. Yes because again. There's a chance that Oscar go into the rumble could win and re-challenge becky because I feel like it will be all hands on deck or the rumble for the women. Because they need everybody they can get. We'll get there next in another another highlight match which should be very interesting and probably extremely kinky and slutty. So you're going to want to put the kids to bed on this. You have the fiend Bray Wyatt taking on Daniel Bryan in a strap match for the universal title. Gould's been good bill. It's been really good. Bryant had Brian Seems CBS to have some answers on how to solve the fiend. We had a really clever Build up to this or you. Had CAIN in return. He calls out the fiend and he and Brian Trick the fiend ambush him and Brian gets to beat him up and beat him down. Dan Rip off some of his hair in payback for what Braided to Brian. So that was really clever. Also thank you for giving me a psychotic intelligent. Cain one more time you'll know that rocks. My socks love to see that and it also sets up dental feud for Kane Bray at the Saudi Arabia in February I'm saying Break Harry sister to mania braised retain the title been bit good building again scene of the crime. Many moons ago pray best match race singles match was against Daniel Bryan Rumble. And I'm sure we will have equal equal levels of greatness in Nisa. I like how they've been calling back to the family and the betrayal and that whole history between Brain Brian. That's really really nice that they're doing it Yay continuity he remembers flash due to well because that was never resolved. Like you had Brian. Betray Bray the to you. beat the crap out of each other bray wins and then like it's never mentioned ever again and then. Brian had to suddenly retire for a few years. And then now he's back and and everybody's been or at least not already. I've been winning for them to sort of find each other and meet up and continue to resolve that issue because like I said never got resolved ever right just just Kinda beat him up and that was it. Brian Hurt Bray. He hurt his family Ryan suffer and before everybody bitches expect red lighting. I mean it's going to happen. None of us are going to be able to see Sabrina eyedrops. But this should still be really good with the hi. I'm also going to say this. If the secret to the beating the fiend is turning on the lights I call week a call so weak that that was my idea. I know but I'm just bring that up. 'cause I've seen it a couple other places to come late the fiendish stoppable just by turning on the lights. They're not tone enough it's what they WANNA do. Talented came for a while and then they realized that stupid. Hopefully figure out something else. I don't know we'll see it's why they've pulled back on him wrestling on TV. It's why they've pulled back is why. I think you had fun house by Russell Ms last month onto other than it didn't really call for the fiend is to give everybody a break from the red lighting because people were complaining and they were hearing that people were complaining and so they're trying to adjust it. We'll see if it's there this time it probably will be on. This will be along match but it we'll just see how this goes but it will be there so we just need to. You know who also happens anyway about will the debris why retain on Sunday. We'll the fien bray. Wijeratne is universal championship on Sunday night. No it says no really really quick to go back to the man's if they adjusted the red in the lighting because the problem is is like one or two tones or shades to the bad. Were hurt your eyes after a while if they could somehow adjust the either the red or adjust the brightness in the light so there are a little bit higher. It wouldn't be as bad add. But they've got it at that perfect irritating setting or it's like either to read or just to touch dark and if you see it in the arena. The darkness. Miss Actually start to hurt your eyes after a while. I can attest to that been there done that. So yeah they do need to adjust that I don't know if if they will or they won't now to what the show's all about. Let's start with the women's world rumble. There's GonNa be so many surprises us when chat so so many surprises in this woman's rubble because we only have five people announce so that means you're GonNa be twenty-five surprises that includes people that all the legend comeback because there's twenty five surprising is you're going to get everyone from molly holly to ivory to Trish Stratus Lita and Michelle McColl and Candice Michelle. I'm Kristie Amis and the running people W E I was GONNA say they're gonNA say Molina but she's worked for them the Anyway yeah okay. They've done a half ass job. No print corner to corner corner corner corner just all through the farthest part of the corner. Go okay. No no no the tinder pictures wrong. It would be him facing away from the camera to sticking his ass out for everybody to Z.. Non sequitur also the facebook picture. Actually no I'm sorry. The instagram picture would be would be him in the artis. This hat. The facebook picture should be picture anyway. She's just randomly. Talking about golf. Has Nothing to do with what we're talking. Well just clicks things. I sent her on Skype I'm I'm just. It's that mean that it's like that. He asked for this by the way he ask for that picture. It's the mean that's linked in facebook instagram. Tender just go me Fox on W. W. on twitter wanted us to put it out Anyway so God please let him respond to that. He asked him for it he asked them for it. Yes what about me on on on. Hold on. She's going to go to. I'm talking. Just keep talking. I'm going to twitter. She's going on twitter. So yeah they've they've done a half pastor have kind of setting up this rumble and hopefully by Sunday night where people do social media videos. They do on smackdown to really drive the point home that this matchup is going to be the first ones were they able to bring back. People do things in the second one was really good how they planned it out. problem here's here's the thing with this one is like you have talent but there's been a lot of injuries lost Ni- Naomi was out because of the UCLA. You've had rewrite injured. You had a bunch of people come in and out and so do on the main roster and Becky made this point on on backstage is like you don't have an bodies. The tank is not as full as as it once was so when you take out Beckham asking your living two of the key pieces on her she. You're GONNA have saying you're Charlotte Charlotte's those two. They're actually into match so far. Officially the iconic have been back home dealing with stuff on with the fires and everything so they haven't been around so it's like very limited. You've now started bringing live Morgan going back into the picture. So she's going to be an active part Rosser. So that your people there on smackdown you got talent you got come in and out. You Have Manny Sonia. You have the talent but you have to actually focus into rubble so all you're going you're going to get them all everyone's going to be in the rumble who should be in the room. Whoever's active will be rubble which means you're going to get a lot out of annex people tomorrow I'M GONNA once I figure out thirtieth person I'M GONNA put out the Royal Rumble prediction where I go one thirty? Here's who thinks the men's Eh. Currently out on talk radio for female. So it's like it's trying to figure it out. It's like okay. I've pulled some people from St. I pulled people from actually you K.. Thinking you're going to have a nice mix you can have your surprised that you're GonNa have could Shannon will come up. Could Ronda Rousey make return into the royal rebel and sort of maybe when the rumble. Go underestimate and Lynch these setup. Even though we just point you don't need the belt beside the point You could bring bring back people from the past. But I don't expect Trish because I think don. She had her moment leader. I don't think they're bringing back because you don't. You'll need her. I think you're going to rely on more of he's he's got so there's the thing there's so much so many women you will look down on his team. There's so many women they could use. So many the Bianca's Tony stormed stormed the candle. Raise the Dakota kyw's and Teagan Knox's all the world I mean guy you know she turned onto your knocks the paper. I don't remember what the paper was on. The interest is thing era. It is totally thing. Totally thing So there there's talent she got to see a lot of talent in this matchup. That said it's hard to protect because there's only so many choices like is Charlotte GonNa win the finally when the rumble and go back into native at a resume and maybe Bailey for the title. I mean they could do that. Or you're GonNa Sasha when the when the rumble and go from there last night we had billy k win the title in the in the simulation so you anthony possible. Anything is possible so we'll have to see I don't I can't pick a winner for the rumble. Because there's honestly honestly not enough name Senator Really Pick but you have to pick one. Think outside the box you pick. Michelle McColl comeback. Win The royal rumble. Ron wrestlemainia fightback Bailey. For the tail boom macos back on top of the world boom. She would I mean if she really wanted to she could. I don't know if the hubs would be okay with that. I'm sure he would be but you know they're not going to the Royal Rumble Brent. Good not I keep saying this on a really Kinda. WanNa see somebody from INEX- Ti win either the men's or the women's rumble. Like I really really really really do. Just because I think that would be a cool moment. four x t especially after they were they let them be so dominant at survivor series. I feel like they should get one here especially to continue to establish them As a third brand. WHO's your pick your trying to think of? Who would be ended? Do you need help. You need aims. Is that what you need a name coming forward. I just don't know if she's GonNa win it. What's the name the name it we we've talked about who you think him? MM-HMM I mean she is the ast of annex t but she's fighting for the Women's title or the championship sorry carry named supposedly. I mean if you just listen up ears you could hurt anyway. But reportedly she's doing it. I take a Portland in two weeks. So it's not gonna be her car so do that you take you take like certain people you can take both rumbles. Because they're in directions in that you're not gonna just sorta like going into this. This weekend was a favor to win the royal rumble. But he just want to tip Egypt so he's don't want Romell he could but I don't know I mean it's really really really hard. That's what she said. I'm going to go with chat on the Shannon Baylor because there's nobody else coming forward and then that lets shane. Challenge rea- or anybody buddy. All she wants anyone else she wants. I'm going with the bus. Sasha banks you don't need the cause or started people in the Marco thirty names so so for the April. Just write down simulation brand billy K.. And last but certainly not least. We have the men's royal rumble match where Brock Klausner will be coming in at number one and trying to make a bid to make history to win the rumble as the reigning and defending defending champion. That's the case. This will be the longest brock has worked in eight years. WHO's got one thirty right? That's what happened or four. Someone's GonNa show up and cost him the match which everyone says. Well you know. Set up his WRESTLEMAINIA try But here's a scenario for you guys. Best scenario of all so brock dominant. He throws out this person. This person goes through four or five. Six people. Whatever showing off his dominance maybe a throat like Tucker and odors out just? Because it's a beefy the guy you know. He's someone up beefy phone shit up it says no it really does But then it's it's its rivals time. You'RE GONNA have a bunch of rivals from from box past show up glencoe per and the undertaker Roman reigns and then and then Cain Velasquez and you have all these is trying to go after brock box zone. But he's still on US match and my practice distracted and he's dealing with all these men who from his pass out trying to come out here limited in our true sneaks in the ring and dumps out brock listener. No no no. But it's a great scenario. That'd be great archerd. They would then get slaughtered on Monday because brock would be pissed because they throw them out of the truth is a pure loving human. And being why would you do that. Shit too great scenario when it's hot it's scenario but why do you want our truth to get killed eld. I wanted to show up in Brooklyn celebrating. I'm not disagreeing with that but then Brookwood a chase 'em down. It would be his maven moment. Yes uh-huh yeah even eliminate them take our meeting. I was there I saw it. I saw. Maybe it's face popcorn or machine. See I didn't let you down TAT at a great scenario that put up to her so anyway. I don't archer to get hurt. We don't always good scenario. I don't WanNa wish that on him. Good Lord Yeah but it just went through anyway. This boils down who's going Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia bracket is already going so. He doesn't need a win. So now you're GONNA go. WHO's GONNA fight back? Listener dumped him out. We'll probably get he coming up. Yeah he's GonNa get total God. I mean everyone speculation. ADS is coming back to win. It's also I mean well. Here's something you've got broken you've got bray or you got. Whoever is the winner of brain Daniel To get the winter. You also have Adam Cole. They may eh on there as well where you have somebody when you can have a guy from annex t win and he challenges Adam Cole to title that. It is also possibility that nobody's really considering that all three men's world championships are on the line right now. Supposedly suppose no I mean they. I don't know because it kind of dropped the NFC part of it for now pushing. They're not pushing it because I think they don't want people to think about it so I'm I don't think it's going to be a man that wins the rumble or wins the royal rumble in challenges them Coleman in Mexico superstar. Yes yeah that whatever. I'm tired shut up anyway So let's see I'm thinking gene. Cain probably Cave Alaska's I should clarify because there's two now oh simulation picked rector came real cane demon came to in the room. I'll put it in imprint. Right to them. I mean because Roman reigns and everybody else realistically. There's no one on smackdown backdown legit the smackdown roster Tanna week in terms of men. Think top then single stars you got you got to Robert Roots and you got the bronze romance and you shouldn't gays. And you MRS but Missus Morrison. So it's like. Yeah I don't know about. Then they're probably going to fight for titles detecting program so they're not GONNA win like King Carbon a Roman reigns and they're relived the top because Daniels against pray you kinda limited there so it's like the someone from Rowan thank you. You don't know it all depends. Are they going to Kane Brock as a special attraction for the title. Maybe where they're going to actually push someone like calendar drew McIntyre filing into that main events. SPOTHERO AROSA mania. Those were the two names really WanNa see win. Either one mainly Kevin but Kevin Owens would be really cool so drew. Don't get me wrong. Drew McIntyre be really legal too but I mean either or would be fine. It's just really hard to pick this because you don't like that. We don't know where they're going with this. We don't know who they're they're putting up against and and we don't know who they're putting up against brock we don't know if they're putting anybody up against brock like brock could just like not do mania this year which would be stupid but that could happen like Brock Rock and win the rumble. And he's like peace out. I'm good because I mean here's the thing. Brock who'd rocket inner at number one he fights a couple of guys gets tired. Rolls out out of the ring under the bottom rope. Rose under the ring lays under there for about thirty forty five minutes gets up throws the last personnel wins rumble. He doesn't have to fight the entire hour. He he just has to get enough people in there that he can sort of vanish. I mean Hell Rhodope took a fifteen minute map nap on the side of the ring so anything is possible possible me so I don't know I'm going with Roman but I'm going to pick Roman because it's easy pick Hayman's not gonNA turn on listener. And he's not GonNa do it for punk. I know you want that. And that's cool but punks not come back anytime soon. Unless they've worked something out but but I don't anticipate punk being in this match just because I don't think all the feelings from the previous situation have fully healed or been addressed That being said I'm GonNa Pick Rome in a win. Any challenges break. I don't know what else to pick. It's like I don't know like who scenarios enroll it makes sense drew or Kevin or even sad. There's some like something but it's like or alisdair Alistair and Broccoli Amazing But you assistant the carbs out Roman. Yeah that's what I got. Roman I mean it's like I feel like you can set up any of those matches with whoever eliminates emanates Broccoli you can have Kevin Eliminate Brock you can have drew eliminate brock. You can have cave Alaska's do it. You can have anybody do do it. To eliminate brock. And then that's how you we set up that whole feud but I just feel like whoever's winning winning the rumble is going to challenge bray because Bray Wyatt if he goes onto mania a- as champion. It's not one hundred percent clear once. He gets dumped Dana. Brian who he's moving onto and that's if he's done with Daniel Bryan. Because here's the other twist Daniel Bryan depending on wind strap match happens and when the men's rumble happens could enter the rumble and could try to challenge bright mania. That's it's another possibility reductions here on the rack. He she got facebook dot com slash groups and salts upbringing. That we're hopefully starting tomorrow. Hopefully full cards in these. They don't have have stuff on facebook. FACEBOOK DOT com slash talk radio in two hundred twenty year fix. Yep So all right we are going to take aac quick ish break and when we come back we are going to be talking and x t worlds collide and we will have a special guest with us. 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Because she's saying that she tweeted to file her right now do it do it do make me too affiliate trying to like seven followers so people want to follow me. Please follow me. That would be awesome. Follow follow. I don't stream that match. I promise I won't be a burden anyway. So we did the royal rumble. We talked about all that. We're talking about worlds collide prince gotTA compile the. witless get all that together. Get that ready so well. He does that. We're going to tweak fan and Tama amassed base and to take over bid to found Ooh a place where you can go ahead one hundred forty characters of this dish starts to climb. I go to refresh map TA TA tweet. No more or he can I show all righty Cypher. PK doesn't matter what sport ten. The TAP man is watching cowboys lose. He follows that up with so this was the tweet. That's going to push me to seven K.. Followers Tim Response with Bro. What the heck I mean a Jank and the cowboys dulas often so who it happens but he was talking about cowboys running? Not Actually Cowboys football team. ooh continue anyway. Anthony Walled tweets. You're either nexus or you're against us and it's a picture of a building that has the nexus as the sign on it and he tweets the entire former nexus. Repeat Jay Black responds. That's our. That's our old headquarters. David Otunga goes. I believe I still have a couple of armbands there in my desk drawer. PJ block goes. I'm ready when you are Dave and Bray Wyatt just sends out a gift of for the love of God. Aubrey honey honey. Do you don't want to go back. He is not one. He's not the chosen he doesn't want to go back. He doesn't he doesn't want to channel Huskisson go back again. You know be be a Aminian and get beat on with the bell away. He's going to get beat on Sunday. So maybe he is going back. You know. Maybe maybe he's embracing his Kinky side. Maybe he is maybe he is. That's all I got. I forgot what was the seventeenth. Your Friday forgot. I went through a bunch. Knock attributing this to anybody. I'm just going to say the Hashtag ready Hashtag worse things to yell out after six. See at the family reunion. A union forgot my antibiotic. You're the best sister ever. Wow you're almost as good as your sister. I want a refund UPI changing my number after this. Your brother other lasted longer. You are the best Walmart greeter ever guard. A pizza would have been more satisfying that tour scabs open. The GERBIL is stuck next time. I'm the girl. Shouldn't you be B already up making me a sandwich. That's that's I have from that one Brent Sayers a little bit of the bubbly the doctor Lupo got to my hotel. Pack South and I have to say I'm impressed with health a communist places. The things are so low even carriage J. B. could reach someone zone courage image goes. Okay Dude Okay Okay Dude Okay Okay Dude okay. It's really small think it is. It's I mean to be fair. He can wash his His his massive de so there is that that's worse than report. Aaron Rodgers has been repeating on a silent like a good neighbor state. Farm is is there with a new defense. Doesn't doesn't seem to be working no. It didn't work trevor. May Him you'll have your video me dope but am I in the thumbnail him. No but you made the tunnel that that that damaged courage shitty shake my head H my head. The title was curved back on twitch. Trevor die so much happens and corey graves. Trying to be gentlemen offered help to the tiny woman sitting next to me put her large bank back in the overhead. She for some reason took offense. I left out loud when she dropped packer in her own face lex bliss. That's something I would do. Okay I have a late injury. Ten the TAP man. Let's see if this works in reference to his stream. He's been having issues today. Actually the last three days Jack Septa Guy. I didn't work Dick Stuck in toaster. Sint help laser beam can't confirm I'm also in the toaster Dr Lupo. This is a comfortable toaster. That is a massive ass. Toaster connects and actually rundown slush worlds collide. Let's go it's time for this weeks. Addition Featuring Turing from Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea. The busiest shark of them all the assistant to the assistant original shark trump's by phone. The intern shark came kittens. Okay number one hypothetically and at number two hang on just a second I need okay. I'm good now. What had to make a bid another one you? How did when you have the chance? Shut up you can't propose. ooh marriage to her Brent. Ten minutes all you need so hypothetically but in reality next week on the next we knocked Knox and Dakota kyw one on one thought sprint. Kinda beat the piss out of each other but why are they going to beat the PISS each other. I thought their best friends what happened sometimes. Sometimes friends have disagreements. It's okay it's healthy to work things out. Then they're going to go and get ice cream and braid each other's hair. It's fine I don't. I don't think that shot up. That's how that's GonNa work. Also I have a question. So is this match actually happening or is it hypothetical. Because it's the only thing thing I can think of when they now says honestly I this match will not have finish this match. Yeah this is not going to be a finish match watch. This is going to take over. That's where we'll have a winner. That's where the full what Fans WanNa see is going to happen this. We'll just be at a taser. I have a feeling it'll be something along. The lines of either Dakota doesn't come out or they just start brawling before the bell rings and they go all over full sail Kinda like Killian. Dane and Bro Did okay and undisputed the speed is no longer really in this viewed it as they lost the championship is Keith. Lee is your North American champion. I I has one issue with all of this us what I have. No problem with keithly winning vile means capitalize on everything that happened. I just really wish he would've solved the angle better during that match. Yeah I mean he got beat up two weeks in a row he got pill man is on on the ankle and yet he came strutton to the ring. Your thing doesn't work anymore now but the the one the thing that got me was so late in the match Rod. He's been working that ankle all match. Long Li gets up and he just like smacks. Is it like three times. and He's good. I know again. I'm not trying to track from the the entire match was great. I'm happy with the result. Keith deserves it. It's the you know if the limitless era for them. It's just one thing that I saw that I was just like. Oh told Brent the bring the hot takes now. He's bringing hot takes unpopular opinions and go. I'm I'm I'm just waiting for Sunday. 'cause I just WANNA see him in brock face to face with one another. I will pop when that happens. Thoughts on zone Keatley winning. I think it's awesome. It's great for our fantasy team. Got US point I'm Tremendous I mean or it had that on the speed Aaron Team I mean that's just that will not a week for them so far but maybe it turns around maybe it turns around. We'll we'll see we'll see actually take him. Yeah Cam Yeah He. They went up north. Oh that's right that's right that's right. That's right Brian is big fourteen and I think all I think the four of us on the call that worked for candidate. We're like you know what More power to Ya. I remember that now. Yeah we were like do ticking time bomb time bomb and started to hit zero WPRO. Let us keep on ticking. That's fine fine. This is totally fine. Let's get in the world. I'm not done on reducer taking over for for I'm trying I So now don't you start just say your first shoots and ladders chat give you take no. That's what he does not even close. Well that's what you do not close completely happen. One hundred percent legit he rigged the game Worry because I I have the pick recorded. Oh good good. Then he pulls the crap earlier in the show and now he's cutting me earlier on the show. Okay okay where our. He claims he didn't make a pick eight. But okay. What's your opinion on this? Lindsey really enter the dispatch. I thought it was very good a little Sarah happened on for DV. I wish they had done it on like a takeover or on worlds collide or something like that. But it's fine and and long live keithly may continue to kick ass because we need points moving on to win worlds collide when that happened. That happens Saturday or Sunday night. Saturday Saturday night Saturday night Sunday it's the non takeover takeover as rock and. I talked about earlier today. And why they're not calling you to take over because takeovers happening in two weeks but he could be takeover worlds collide and then they don't do a takeover weeks do a special event in two weeks the house happening takeover of being subsequently separated from the Big Four. I think the only ones GonNa have one wrestlemainia sense anyway. It happens this Saturday night. seven PM Eastern normal normal about time in a row bat channel. So all right we are going to start with your pre show match of Serbia taking on Keighley ray thoughts anybody six matches on this show which is weird and I don't know if you saw so member we're trying to figure this out in terms of numbers right like you gotta you gotta spread it out. Where both sides get some lovin into you go from there with six matches? It's hard to do that because it could be three three tie. It would have made sense if you did the dust classic files on the show and just set match match. But Hey here we are in terms of this matches really know Southampton's it's just you have the UK women's Women's. Yeah I mean are they calling her. Shimmy overseas just annexed teach kids raising. NFC Women's shipping museum is trying to rebound from a few losses. She's been having lately. This one is non title. This one seems geared toward Kayleigh. Ri- like you want your champion to win. You don't want it makes more sense for your champion. Go over in this one. So I'm going to go with them. Going Kaley right. 'cause it's a logical finish on his front yet it. It's one one of those. The match was put together to put your your UK women's champion on there because You had a chance to actually have her on in another another match but they did not pull that trigger so you had to feature Kaley Ray because otherwise it would have been really awkward to have your female representative be Tony Storm. Someone who doesn't have the belt and Don't get me wrong. Medium is a hell of a worker. They're going to have a good match. It can go. It can be a bruising style match it can be A bunch of different things in the scope of things I talked about earlier. UK has to get some of these matches. And when you look at some of the other ones you're kind of like that one feels that feels annexed Thi this one. I guess could go go either. This one feels like it's it's a UK win setup. It'll still be a good match but yeah I think they need this one to help kind of get the numbers number there because You know they'll probably put up the counter throughout the night and you don't want it to be like smack down at the survivor series with one. Yeah I'M GONNA go with Kaley raise well especially considering what's happening later in the night I say. UK gets their women's win here moving on hold on. You're forgetting about somebody. Hey Hey magic. But we'll Kaley really right Kaley Rabi me getting any anybody f the how. It's as better not tell you see F the host so it's some Yep Yep wow starting off great this is why we don't ask things we do. That's the gimmick me. Shouldn't it's wrong long strong moving on so in the match it's going to get everybody pregnant and the entire Internet is GONNA win. DIY versus his Mustache Mountain. I don't know who I want to win this. I don't know who I love more. I don't they do. They create new. Diy Ah Graphics simply you remember when I said some of these ads feel an extra heavy and some of them. You just don't know this is the match personally to me. I just don't know I can't pick a winner. I don't know I feel it leaning certain way but at the same time again if they want to even up the score I could. I could see it. Go the route of the British boys. They're the established team. They're the ones wants to work more as a team. DIY has been reluctant. They've broken up. And they have and teamed in forever so this is their reunion tour. This is a reunion show. And and there's Mustache Mallon who on the regular our team there unit they have always been a unit. There's been no teasing breaking up that unit now rock is something I mean. That's what they yes. They've teamed together more and all of that but what have. I've been the results of those team. UPS when it comes to Mustache Mountain they were the NFC type team champions more times than not. They're the plucky group that it just happens to come up a little short. I feel I I feel like there's so much as I want to say it Johnny and Tomasa. We're GONNA come up short here here. It's a one shot deal right now with them. We don't see. Do Diy. Reuniting Tacoma's GonNa go for the for for the title after this. Johnny is going to be probably right there with them and they're going to have those issues. Plus you could potentially have some shenanigans involved in this I I see I see it going. Bayden sevens way like I can see them giving it to. Diy just because it's diy and how. How legendary do they are together absolutely ability to make sense like this can go either way? It's really hard to pick this one but I feel like if you have to have people lose it should be Johnny Tomasz. The past issues could get in the way a little bit or undisputed error. Somebody else could get in the way. Here's the thing you say there. They need to lose. But then they lose momentum both Johnny and Tomasa were off the bigger and better things giants off the face fin tomatoes off the face Adam Adam Cole. So they figure things on horizon so taking semesters men wouldn't look good on the resume. You WanNA keep them hot. You WanNa keep going especially with Johnny. Who hasn't been in the ring in such a long time? This is his first match back since well before survivor series so the turn so he needs a strong wind he needs to get back into the ring and he needs to get a win but I could easily make that up either in Portland or you could make that up on an xt TV like this isn't going to be a super devastating loss for them just because of all the history between diy and and what we know is there so it's like anything could happen like can they just both win that thing though they both like go to withdraw or something like that satins contest it could go to a contest. Because here's the other part of this. Is that Bayton. Seven haven't been working together in UK. They've been working separate separate programs like they can always come together and they can always work together because at this point they're married federalize mates they are the reread feet. Trenton Tyler. They're married that's just at the wrestling married. I don't know I don't I want pick in pick pick in my. My heart is saying Mustache Mountain. K Brad it hurts Brandt okay now you were talking about momentum here going into the decks takeover you have Tomasa fighting for the big belt and you have johnny facing off against Finn Correct Playing off of what. I think may happen into weeks I think. DIY needs to win here because at least one of them is. It's probably not going to win in Portland and I think if you have two losses like that back to back that could hurt someone. Plus the fact. I think this match is one of those where the fans I think will kind of dictate it and I think the fans would prefer a diy win over mustache. Mountain sits lyrics located essences here if it was if it was over in the UK. I would feel a lot more comfortable picking gang mustache mountain because I could see the crowd shifting a little more towards them but in Houston before the rumble. I think they want a Johnny and Tomasa win and I think with the fact that you have the two faces there you WanNa keep the fans happy. I'm going the APL. Mustache mound be diy for very doubtful. Ewho Lens Lindsay's Lynch is the only one supporting the Brits Boys but but we're we all. I think we all agree this. This can be one. Oh God we're we're going to be done by the end of this like my ovaries aren't even prepared for the opening. Yeah probably probably Will Bay light kick that shit off hot and send them out to do it Up Next you have the cruiserweight championship on the line. As Angel Garza takes on Isaiah's were Scott Jordan in Dublin and Travis Banks. I think this is really a match. Between Garza and Scott Caused Avalon and banks are in no Devlin's ends in the finals for the dusty classic I thought he was part of the the No I was somebody else. Never aligned. Scratch that either way Devlin his UK away. No no Devlin is Finn Light. That's right Yup light. I keep forgetting that. Okay dot now I feel like Garza's going to retain long story short getting this back on track. I don't see any of the title's changing hands at this event because they don't really need to unless you send the cruiserweight title to UK. That's GonNa that's where I'm going. Because because they could have a they they don't have I think the secondary title like what An xt has with North American Championship. But they don't need a secondary town. This doesn't need to be a long-term win. This is about number tall about the numbers chat always always about the numbers and you look up and down this car going. US US S. U. S. U. S.. You see all the US wins here. Garza just want it but he can lose an and get right back for a night he can lose it to say Travis spanks and be okay with it because then you can do the rematch on television. The upcoming Wednesday. It's very easy booking it. Gets you the numbers you need for the show. Oh and also you can change the belt because it's a cruiserweight town now known as a whole that belt for long periods of time just cruiserweight title. That's bureau so so my my opinion. I'm leaning Torture Bank because they were featuring him on TV leading up to this. Oh that's where my mind sense going. Brent where's your mindset mine mine is I can I. We talked about this earlier. I could see them shifting title to UK just so again there could be a secondary title because has meant you know. Mainland Annex t has the the championship the championship and the North American Championship. So the the cruiserweight title is kind of a a a fourth belt. That just happens to be on that brand so I could see it in theory going over there but I think honestly I think the belt stays on the side of the pond and you know what if one title is going to change on the card. This will be it and screw it. I'm picking I'll I'll picks Swerve Maple Garza retain on Saturday. A it will look good all right next week at the APL agreed with Lindsay Is trying to make it up to me. They got same Ballard takes on. Ilia Draganov thin. Yeah I mean need I wanna I wanNA give I want to give off at sheds I do but I think this week on. TV We just showed that yeah fans going to roll in their dragging off may get some offense and Evil Finn is just GonNa win okay. Can we just curious address S. the Lindau. Not Use the words dress and Ballard right now when you want to talk about the elephant in the room the horn. Let's talk about the the horn in the room smuggling something please and I'm sorry I don't mean to call this. How but I mean to call this out? Can we please do something about Finn Ballard trunks. There's children in the audience. Okay why I don't need to be all that and if you know what I'm talking about you know what I'm talking about like if they get any tighter across his front they're you're GonNa have to censor that shit okay like we're GonNa have to learn somehow not like that. I mean I'm sorry you know what I get. There's not a lot of room to work with in the teeny tiny ass little trunks. He's gotTa stick it somewhere. It's gotTa go somewhere. I understand that I respect bat. But I'm talking about a quality issue or a where like the girls get punished if they have a five second nip nip slip but then Ballard can walk around essentially dick out and it's fine like come on guys come on and I'm not not try to attack him because lots and lots and lots of guys do it like lots of male wrestlers. Their trunks are so tight you can tell what religion they are but like. Can we not. Can we just not with that because I mean it was like you tell on. TV This Week. They were struggling. And I means struggling. Not to shoot Finn Ballard's lower-half because he walked out and he was just a touch excited and those things were super tight then and they were trying really really really hard. Pardon the Pun not to show his lower-half Half lease till he calmed down. So like I just have to bring that up. Can we just do general about this all the time anyway. April was we'll just we'll stop showing his will Finn Win on Sunday on Saturday. Certain that he will show his peanuts and went on Sarah his chalet alone. Okay all right. And what promises to be an excellent amazing ovary popping match. We have real Ripley taking on Tony Storm the NFC championship is on the line. As RIAs defending this is going to be a barn burner. This is going to be another one that if you want to open the show with this. That's perfectly fine. I don't think anybody will complain. But I'M GONNA rea- It could be interesting to see how this crowd relax. Ax crumbled craft GONNA react. Hot to rea- put Tony. I'M GONNA Kinda wondering how they're going to the Houston crowd reacts Tony Give me more than the Smarter Fan. So they'll know who she is in the pop and do everything it's like. Oh is she going to be more of a he'll to cause on on Wednesday she kind of had some booze in there there and when she held up that belt the fans booed well because of Russia's hot in here in Florida right now. So it's like that she's their champion. Like if Tony the same thing read in the she would be the one being here but now it's really got the moment so right but it's it's also the thing have yet remember. It wasn't that long ago that she was fighting in the May young classic and the fans were firmly behind her. But I think it just shows how. Oh how much the fans at the the Phantom of annex t have embraced RIA that quickly and disaffected active. You know Tony grabbing that belt and holding it up the fabric was like Nah. nope the girl is the one that actually holds that title because we is so oh unique she she is like nothing anybody has ever seen before. She is so unique so one of a kind that you can't not love her because she's she's the complete opposite of everything that what the women's division was installed kind of is whereas Tony. Tony Tony Is. I'M GONNA call her traditional because she is she's got she's beautiful and this isn't a bad thing. None of this is a bad thing that she's beautiful. She's got the blonde hair. She's got the glam makeup. She's you know she's extremely talented. But you look at Tony any and she kind of looks like a lot of the other girls that they have in. WWE or they have had in the past some bad thing completely not a bad thing. I want to put put that out there but then you look at Ria right there. Isn't anybody in the company right now. That looks like Ria. Nobody she's not not gonNA get lost in a crowd and the fans in Florida like those kinds of characters. They like those kinds of individuals. They love Tony. And if Tony was is facing anybody else they would love them. Some Tony But it's Rian Tony. Yeah well the one thing I have to say about this match is this is so we always joke about when it comes to certain performers and stuff how old are both of these competitors. They're young their boat. Yeah they're both under twenty five and with them performing at the level that they are and being that young weaken look look. We can look forward to having this hopefully for years to come. This could be one of those fields that because they faced off before and it was occurred match and now we get it again and it's just one of those things where hopefully it's just something that they can keep harkening back to and turn it into one of those iconic connick kind of conic Konak. You did the post But it it can turn into one of those feuds that spans and they can you know a Kevin Sammy Randy whoever randy seen yet randy seen a triple h shawn when they wanted to. You know bring those guys out. It's those feuds that just you could go to and they have a spotlight light match no matter what and this can honestly be like the next level of that and I feel like that's what they're trying to do. Because I think eventually Tony will come over to the main lean main annex t brand. But they're being very careful about who they bring over and how quickly bring people in because obviously they have an entire performance center therefore people in Florida right now and they WanNa make sure they show love to everybody but I think they do eventually want to get Tony in the United States and I think they do you want to get her on the main roster but it all depends on what she wants to do because I think she still has a lot of work left to do in. UK If she wants to Because she could stay there the rest of for career and be an absolute star. But I think she will be on her way in the in the Commons to the roster Sino quickly because Google. I WanNa see how old Tony Storman Railroad. But they were. But I'm not naive about the age. The related to Real Ripley tiny storm. Google Search Ray Ripley. Shane Baiser Baiser Bray Wyatt. He's talking us was an Bailey Bait bride wise Brian in related anyway. I'm going rewired related to every search you have I'm hoping I'll rea- replay retains Bryant. Yeah it's it really just got the belt she has the you know the the crowd and the momentum behind her Tony I don't think loses anything in this and besides her main feud I wanna say right now is with Kaley anyway and to a lesser extent Piper But I think Tony can can lose this but still go right into that next year and try to regain the belt. That's truly hers and you move Rea- onto Bianca alka. WHO's waiting for two weeks later Yeah like that's that's a hard thing about picking this too especially with the champions is there's an event in two weeks so so it's like I just don't think any of the titles are GonNa Change Hands because they already have that set for poor and April will retain on Saturday all signs point into. Yes all right Mitt. Undisputed era takes on imperium. I'm just GonNa say that's Walter is GONNA kill everybody. God that shop speaking speaking of titles he is now officially the next T- UK champion. Oh we got back no they. They gave new balance has the exte- log on and not the WB Logos Officially Christened the annex t UK championship. He said something on television whereas like he had a change. Get a new belt because of what you know. Basically Pete the stank of Pete and where it's been take a good walk around with that thing in his mouth for two years so bite marks they were bite marks in the letter continued. Continue Brian. Oh No I was GONNA say if I if the Walter is known for being hard hitting and Holy Shit from this past Wednesday Adam Cole. If his chest has not caved in from that one shop I don't know the man is the man that Superman essentially because because the cell he gave when Walter chopped up not only taking it but bumping like fucking the rock taking a stunner style bump. It was amazing. I'm surprised he didn't have to go collect his head out of the fifth row. Oh God I just thought of something. Kyle's GonNa Die GonNa die so hard he's GonNa be the first one to take a job they're gonNA get Colin to the corner and he's just going to be like come on come on lap kyle in the corner. Kyle's just GONNA run at Walter and Walter just going to slap him down like a net. Yeah true like duck it away for that corner crap foot up when they announce this match the fact that you have the the two who biggest factions between each and how they just embody their leaders persona is great. Because you have imperium and and they have that very business oriented hard hitting you know get shit done kind of mentality. Which of course is Walter? But then you have the undisputed era who sneak attack them at the at their pay per view they're taking their network about takeover their their takeover blackpool to you And then you know it's like they they're the underhanded ones they're the ones that Wanna get that upper hand but I just love. The fact on Monday imperium showed up. They didn't have to interfere. They just throw it up in the show. They stood off to the side and it was enough of a presence presence to distract them to lose their match imperium. Honestly there's headed. This is where I think. I think they're they're going to the start losing a bit confident. They're going to take a step back before the technologist Ford think heading into Portland and they're going to be a little on the edge. They lost they lost the North American title. And then it's going to shake the confidence of ankle. I think losing goes to shake the confidence of the group which Mugabe put some doubt in Adam Cole Going in the Portland web gets this win. It's really hard to pick this. 'cause this is another one that this really can go either way and it's about brand dominance And who who gets to hold the bragging rights at UK resume Or is it a mainland and x t and I feel like somehow someway undisputed era is GonNa WanNa two things going to happen. UNDISPUTED AIR IS GONNA pull this out or this does go to a no contest and you you have no winter which really would really be a shit finish to this. I'M NOT GONNA lie but it's like I think somehow maitland next he's going to Ed. UK Out just a little bit because especially with what they've got going on here. I don't feel like you can have the overall roll brand lose. If that makes sense I feel like I feel like for Instance Somehow someway undisputed era is going to pull it out now. They're going to get beat to Shit and how ready. They are from Portland. Because of this I don't know and does that affect does that. Impact Adam Cole will have to see not and also fish in a Riley and and Roddy but I I feel like somehow someway understood. Era's GonNa pull it out so you're gonNA Dispute Air Right. You're going honestly. I think I think this is going to be the cap of the bad week. For undisputed era you had fish Riley lose in the tournament Clean Pretty much pretty much. I mean the stratton clean. I mean there was the distraction but it wasn't interference so you had fishing Riley lose news. You had roddy lose the the first belt from the group I think they drop this match and like you said it starts to creep in of you know we had the you know they they. We're talking so long about the prophecy. Oh we're dominating an X T and I think losing this use you now start to have people going. You know how `bout that prophecy and doubt starts to creep in a little bit or you know you go back to that it. Is there a chink in the armor with Rodrick strong because he is the first one to lose the belt and before he got that North American title. They weren't too high on Roddy. So I I think this is like you start to get the cracks in the dam and you know if anything you could have rodrick eat the pin and just drive that point home a little more he could. I mean that's that's very possible I'm going I'm going imperium. I think it's I think it's just the way that it's going. It's doing the numbers I feel like. UK needs a strong wind. And they're strong forces imperium. Yeah undisputed Eric can get their their stuff back there they can versity helps them better and losing here will motivate them more they got they had too much success. 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Mojo Rawley and Elias Join the Show

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Mojo Rawley and Elias Join the Show

"If you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required. The is the busted open. Podcast you can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Siriusxm Channel. One fifty six all right. Welcome in busted open nation or another weekend addition up busted. Open radio. I'm your weekend host Ryan McConnell that is the Wwe Hall of Famer Mark Henry Across the road and mark. We have a great best of podcast. Edition queued up for our busted open nation today on the show including two great chats with two of the stars last night from a very eventful smackdown on. Fox We got Mojo Rawley and Elias Stopping by the show for our listeners. Man I was so entertained by Mo Jo Stays high. He knows he knows what he's doing. And I look forward to seeing him. Get more shine hearing weeks as well as Elias as well and we check in with both of them get their thoughts on. What the VIBE was like in Orlando at the performance center which of course was centered around a completely families episode of smackdown. It was one four. The memory books that question would be though mark. Is it going to kiss our award for weekly winter as we do every week on the show I guess listeners are GonNa have to click that play button and find out? What are we going to have to click the play button so they could find out but you know also in the conversation that we had with Elias. We talk about triple h who was a shining light on the show and did so much to entertain and just a comedy just the The whole entertainment value that we got out of that was so amazing. And I'm looking forward to have everybody tune in and understand what the process went through with the weekly winner that we put through. We explain it as good as it's been explained in a long time so I'm looking forward to weekly. That's absolutely right. This is busted open radio on a Saturday. Click that play button. Sit Back Relax. Forget about the troubles of the world and let us entertain you because we love doing it. Let's go mark Henry because why that's what we do. Let's go how about we join up with the man himself the one and only mo Jo rally the most hype man it. Wwe what's up Mojo? Welcome in here on a Saturday. I'm busted open there. We go back but hey man we we cancel the show. We cancelled a world right now. We got mode. So man is hype. This do right one of my favorite people in the world. I'm GonNa tell you a quick story. Let's Arabia am Mojo and I are in the desert on little. Atv's spitting sand everywhere and then all of a sudden he goes. Hey man what you wanna hear and I go what you mean. He's like. This is not just a backpack high backpack and then he started playing music. It had speakers. Kaman that do right. There stays hype. Joe Joe. That sounds. That sounds like you're living the Gimmick right there. That's that's what that sounds like. No Gimmick Baby. That's why before we listen. We were high to have you truly. We are excited to have you here man. We appreciate you especially on a Saturday morning and coming off last night. Listen we will get to Rob Gronkowski because Amb. Obviously there's a lot to go into with him but man I just want to get your thoughts and your feelings on last night. First of all I hope Mike Coles okay because you damn near beat the hell out of him. You were leaving the show the vibe the vibe man the vibe I mean you returned to the performance center I would imagine it's been a while it was your home at one point and returned to smackdown live in front of no fans man. I mean it was. It was a great show first of all so typically the cap to everyone involved but but for you man what was it like kind of going into that scene to the lead up the day of yesterday. What were the emotions? And what were the feelings around that show? Well I gotTa tell you so. I'm always I'm always at the performance center. I'm their everything because I lived in Orlando. I train their head strength. Coach Sean Hayes there And we we get after I'll tell you what do I I don't go on vacations too often but I had just landed in the Bahamas turn my phone on was GonNa do a few days actually with grunts brothers. A few a few of his brothers. I landed in the Bahamas. I turn my phone on the first tax from wwe. Hey we We get you on smackdown tomorrow to come in about everything that's going on and I looked around and saw the beam of your beyond the first way back right. It was nuts but I'll tell you what it was insane. I was I was pretty excited about it. Because you know being at the performance that are having a show you know with with no fans there. I mean that's that's why we do what. Wwe's Abou- that's how we we gauge all of our matches and re off to the crowd like to not to not have that. They also curious and intrigued to see what it was gonna be like and then not only that like I said. I'm their training every day so I just wanted to see how they would transform the building and you know what's rooms are gonna be the locker rooms and where you know we're hearing was GONNA be in the meeting rooms where people are going to be getting ready and it was. It was wild man and it was. There was really no people in there. I mean when smackdown started yesterday I think at any given point you could see maybe one other person and whatever room. You're you were into the performance centers huge. We didn't have that many guys on the show yesterday. So it's like a ghost town back there. I was wondering where people kept popping out to go into grill or go to the segment man. It was crazy. I check this out. Mojo. I WanNa know this I'm not GonNa talk about what happened in the arena. None of that. I I WanNa talk about your personal feeling of going back to the performance center and being guy that that came from there from the developmental and you were able to now make a living for yourself to get out and have an identity as mo Jo and you've done multiple things already and have the potential in the future to do a lot more things especially now that you're going to be. You're going to beat a hype man and you're going to be. God is going to be helping introduce your boy. Today's world. How did it feel man getting back in there and being at the place where you started man it was? It was really exciting but to be honest with you it to me. It was really cool to everything with that was going on. But it really didn't feel that much different man because like a lot of guys when they when they get called up to the raw or smackdown they they move out of Orlando and they kind of never show faith in the performance center again. But I'm I'm there. Every day you know just felt like. I was still home like I never left kind of thing. It was just you know there wasn't even really nostalgia because it's just kind of everyday business as usual again. It was cool to see everything and it was awesome to see everything. Come full circle As far as you know building the performance center and seeing a smackdown you know live live on TV from it. I remember when they first built the place. They said Way Back when you know. This place has the capability to host. Live television in every right. Oh that's cool but it off. No one thought would actually happen and if they did they thought for sure it would be for the certainly not raw smackdown but now fast forward and you know we're the only live entertainment segment going on. You know all sports leagues have been cancelled. Everything's been playing but not the wwe where the only thing that's still trucking and still giving the fans something to get excited and You know just just hyped up for especially given everything that's going on in the world right now. Really healthy distractions. So it's kind of an honor. One of the few things feel a sense of pride Mojo that that we are that that you are a part of something. That's bigger than the world right now bigger than anything going on in the world whether it's entertainment whether it's sports whether it's business you know they're a big time industries that have shut down and you are still out there rolling. Do you feel a sense of pride. Hell yeah absolutely. I was talking with Roman about that yesterday yesterday. Actually I mean how can you not? I mean everything that's going on just the gravity of of what's happening to everyone on a daily basis in helps that miserable and sad everyone is it's like such an honor to be one of the few in the work for a company that refuses to you know. I don't I don't WanNa say everyone else's given up but you know how this company is. Wwe where we're going to find a way we're GONNA find a way to make these shows happen and we have an awesome team that put every everyone will put their heads together and devise a plan. And I mean I think I think this works and I think there are so many people that were watching just to see how this was going to go down to see. Hey it's just gonNA be train wrecked or they're going to be onto something new here and you know with everything going on. We might be there for a while. I don't. I don't know nobody knows what's going to happen next week. Right as far as we. It was a really cool opportunity. So that's why you know like I said I I had just landed in the Bahamas had a whole nation that Bob Paid for everything I was like. How come right back? This is GonNa be cool then like this is this is GonNa be one for the record books. This is GonNa be something people remember. So forget a big case and I'm on the first way back once. I know where I'm going with the most tight man. Wwe Mojo Rally Mojo I again. I can't commend you guys enough for the job you did last night the pressures surrounding that show the. I would imagine the awkwardness of the day. Kind of like you said you had that conversation with Roman the responsibility you guys felt. What was the vibe like amongst your colleagues last night heading into this event because I would imagine on some level yes I mean. You're doing what you guys have always done i. It's it's nothing new but at the same sense it is something new and there is a bit of pressure so I am curious to kind of hear what it was like leading up to the show last night. I mean everybody just felt like a lot of people did not know what was going on. Everybody was kind of looking around. Like how's this GonNa work? You know that's awesome. How are we gonNA handle this matches like everyone? It was more more about the matches I would say. 'cause you know the the promos and anything backstage was essentially business as usual. I mean I'm Ryan my me yesterday with Michael Cole triple h either headset on. You know the live crowd can't hear what I'm saying anyways so all the matches like it was cool. Everyone was all fired up Two Oh five. Those guys killed it. They they really got after it. I mean everyone worked as if you know it was A. It was a packed house. But yeah like backstage. Everyone was kind of hanging out waiting for this thing to start so we could see how it was going to be received and whatnot now. It was It was received very well if you were paying attention to social media. It seemed like everyone really appreciated the effort. I think everyone recognizes that the show was adapting and the and the situation is fluid. So again well done to everyone involved including yourself that spot with Michael Cole and triple h was absolutely awesome. And the reason that's existed well Mo Jo is because you came out to announce it your best friend the one rob Gronkowski former tight end of the New England. Patriots is going to be appearing on smackdown next week. Obviously a lot of rumors. Espn reporting that rob is going to be coming over to the WWE. I guess I'll just ask you this. I mean I'm sure you've talked to him on some level we know that your hype Mojo. But if there's anyone in the sports world that is hyper than you or at least on parties your buddy gronk so how excited for this opportunity and how do you see this all playing out in the weeks ahead? Well I'll tell you what man this is. Been a long time coming and and to be honest. I don't know how it's going to go 'cause everything's been back and forth. Everything's been changed in everyone's schedules or just out. It's just hard to hard to manage every everything and You know I don't know what's GonNa Happen exactly what we do know that he'll be there next week. I mean. Honestly he's still working through a few things and especially given everything that's happened. Recently that has also thrown aware a couple of things. We were hoping for but I'll tell you what this has been a really really long time coming so I've been with. Wwe since July. Twenty twelve me and rob have been talking about doing something here for years before then you know because I grew up with his family. His Dad is the one that got me my job with. Wwe He was college roommates with Mike. Rotunda Syracuse. They play ball together. So that's kind of how all this got started. I was a free agent in the NFL. And we're all Kinda of hanging out watching watching raw. Everyone was like do you need or D. Dean at the time. Then you need to go to the wwe man like you know your Free Free Asia right now. You're not under contract and it's kind of one of those things like man hell. Yeah go do that but you don't know how to make sure connection that. Was there from then like you know every party. We've been going through over the years. It'd be like beating on each other and shopping. I may not being his hand pro before I signed with. Wwe is like I gotta talking up and then everyone would be out partying. They'd rip before we start shopping. The hell out of that's just one we we we've done and as far as bringing them over. I mean like I said Man. This is this is a decade in the making. He's in right now like you know. It's the the The Times right and and one thing that that Robin I both said about. This is if we do this. We don't WANNA have after. We don't want this to be one of these things. Where like you know you show up and you do it. They and you peace out like you gotta come in you gotTA train. You GotTA learn how to do this. I don't want you to embarrass yourself. I don't want you to embarrass me. You know the. Wwe universe their their unforgiving. There are some. They're passing it but man they'll let you hear it if we all know so. He wants to do this the right way. And that's why he's kind of been wait longer on getting all this done and so he could really put in the time. He wants to fly in and get weeks in at the performance center and really get as as great as he can be to be honest man. He's he's been doing film studies and watching me behind the scenes and you know really following along. I mean he was one of those guys that wound to have shows that the old F E W building and we'd have five fans in the sand you look out and one would be rob Gronkowski. You know you talked about you know partying and Y'all chop in each other and funneling. I mentioned before you came on. I was like if we had to wicked top for an hour about the party scene with Mojo because he is a bona fide. Hamp when it comes to party and and I WANNA know like is it. Is it slow in the party scene right now? People still getting it in Well yeah they're still getting nothing else to do beyond Joe. Idle hands off the thing is. I heard a comment from one of those sports. People that Ribe could come in. And how is he going to integrate with the Locker Room Do you think that he'll come in with a diva type of personality? And all of this and I said right away no I met the guy a dozen times. And every time he's the salt of the earth he comes up and shakes hands and introduces himself. Like people don't know who the hell he is like. He is honorable respectful guy. I don't I don't see any problems in the future. How do you feel about the way Ron Rob will Factor in in the locker room. I'm right there with you. Man Rob is one of the most humble people. I know he's not gonNA come in with an ego and an entourage and just taking everything for granted. I mean He. He wants to come in and work. He wants to do it right and you know like he. He knows how it is he. He worked his way up from the bottom to he was a nobody wants. So you know coming into a lot of room you gotta you gotTa Act like you're a nobody 'cause really he's the man in football but in in in. Wwe In the locker room. He's a nobody he hasn't done anything yet but I think that the guys can't appreciate that. He's been a fan since day one that he supported us from those. Fcw Days when there was four people In the arena that he has done some work with us in the past and that he's that he's here to work of course there's GonNa be some guys that are that are jealous of all the limelight and attention that he's getting guys that think that they should have instead of him but you know that's the thing with our show. There's a spot where everybody and you know. I think the team does a great job of putting together a show that allow for opportunities for everyone and him being here's GonNa create opportunities for any future opponents or or anyone to be in a very Lime lip position. That's for damn sure but I don't foresee any issues with that with that at all. He wants to come in and do this right. I WanNa let you know man. We appreciate you coming on. I know you got stuff to do. And you know just respect man Big Up to you and everybody else de perform night It was it was inspiring. And we're happy to have you on the show. Hopefully man we have you on again man. We're we're we're out here on Saturday mornings. We're trying to keep the keep the love going in the in the world of pro wrestling and pro wrestling Ram McKenna on my my brother from another mother over. There is Just as passionate about progressing as I am and that's saying a lot high that's right. We stay on radio MOJO. I WanNa thank you. I want to thank you for coming on. Yes I want to thank you for having me. This was fun was awesome and mark on a personal note to. I WanNa thank you for always looking out for me you know especially from day. One showing me When not to be heightened too crazy we're GONNA get me in trouble. Yeah man just just overall being so often to me and my family over the years really appreciate it so on and it'll be my pleasure to be back on whatever y'all want maybe they go and we hope you get that vacation in the Bahamas soon to man all right go. Yeah maybe next year maybe another lifetime the one and only mo Jo Riley. We appreciate it. That man is one of the highest man in the business and you really hear the passion there in that interview through through the business that he has in the love that he has for the business. You're hearing catch method open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Siriusxm Fight Nation Channel. One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius. Xm APP joining us right now. It was a historic night. On smackdown. There was no crowd in attendance but the WWe brought the entertainment nonetheless. No one does it better than the if you will and one man who was in attendance as we talk about bringing entertainment well he is the WWE's resident Rockstar. You know who he is. We always walk with him. We love him. We know he is Elias. What's up allies? Are you doing? Thanks for the INTRO. Appreciate that guy's crazy night last night. Right right man. One it was it was crazy. It was crazy. Good yes it was so You know I didn't get to see the entirety of the show. We had a lot of running around everybody's figuring out how to do things But I gotTa tell you what a what a interesting environment having no fans there but still running the TV show You know exactly like you would In any arena just without the audience right a- and Elias we just had Mo jo on a little while ago. I've got to catch up with him and get his vibes. I mean both of you guys. I mean you came from the performance center right like I know still spends a lot of time there. It was a home for you at different points. I'm just very curious. I kind of asked Mo Jo. He said the VIBE WAS. It was different right. It was kind of like people didn't know what to expect. I'm just kind of curious from your head spaces as you were approaching yesterday with Friday night. Smackdown knowing what the situation would be but allies at the same time not knowing. I mean it was unprecedented. I'm just kind of run me through your emotions and the buildup to the show last night and kind of what you were feeling. Yeah you know walking in there and you know we go through a quick medical check to make sure everybody's good to go You know with everything going on walking in the front door and you walk in and you just see the empty pc arena but it's just like It's it's you know it's like it's before we go live At smackdown or raw you know people are out around the ring working on things thinking up ideas and it's very much like that and you know you just don't know exactly what it's going to be like until you go live and I think it was. Maybe it was a Balian. Sasha came out live starts smackdown off. Yeah it was right away. You know it's interesting cutting. Promos crowd and You know triple H is out there giving a speech and it really feels like you know years from now you're GonNa look back on this and be like. Wow what a what a crazy time in. Wwe You know for me. I spent about three years at the performance center right. And I. You know I've been on the main roster now for about three years so go back there. Be In that environment. I mean it's always cool. It's like a safe place for me. was literally a safe place for. Wwe Last night to to go back there. And you know that's where Elias and you know. I was the drifter at the time. But that's where it all started for me. You know working with dusty roads and everything like that so it's always cool for me to be in that environment and that's triple. H is you know. That's that's his baby right there. So he was he was on top of everything of course. He played multiple roles on the show last night. Right right. He's talking about those three years. Yes that was a that was in another life. Elias Samson I believe was that life different different name at the time. Yes that's right that's right so we talk about the VIBE. I am curious like afterwards right like Of course there's the lead up. There's the nerves. There's there's there's the questions around what the show was going to be. But I would imagine a Elias. After the show concluded the pride that you guys must've felt in that locker room and really the whole family at the performance center. I would imagine it was ample of course but then you know so yes. Of course there is pride. We gotta done at something different. They're only you know live television. Really going on right I in the always country as far as I know and You know but the other thing is the other part of it it's like Oh this is. Wwe This is what you expected. This point you know like we're wwe's not going down without a fight and if there's an opportunity to perform an entertainment wwe. He's GonNa do it and they're going to do it better than anybody else allies. I'm telling you what I was expecting. I was acting for Elias to have a concert for the fans. And then some who come down and try to break the concert up and go to blows. I love what happened but I just want to let you know for future reference I want you to stand in their chests man. Let them know. Hey I'm ready. I'm over prepared. I'm I'm willing to do this because I'm a fan and you know I've always been a supporter and I always. I WanNa see you do well and you've been doing such an incredible job man and and I've been always in the title pitcher. You're not always been the number one contender but you have a really strong presence on the show always and people know that name they know who you are and when you're standing in the middle of that ring and you're singing and performing and wrestling in and we talked about being over prepared. How many hours do you spend playing guitar and practicing your songs first off mark? Thank you so much for saying that man. I gotTa tell you and I remember talking to you guys. You know a year ago or something and it's like I am begging for the opportunity to be you know even even further along where I am and you know what it's great. I'm on television every week and people know Elias But I tell you what man I feel like I'm capable of even more and I want that I want to be there and you believe believe me when I tell you I am pushing for that on all aspects to the point where people might be getting upset with me. I'm pushing so hard Mark Brown but that said man. Listen I just the good thing is is. I have a passion playing music and playing guitar and I'm always always thinking of new ways to note. You know new writs. Sit there jam around on my guitar new ways to interact with the crowd new catch phrases whatever it may be so you know. I'm just waiting for you. Know for the door to open up just a little bit so I can bust through. You know what I'm saying man. That's all I'm asking for. Go get it go get Elias Mark. Brought up your as he's there complimenting you and you are a staple of television right but he you know he talks about being in the contender picture title and all that and then and then you talk about wanting to ask more in essentially the asking for more and essentially the the the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease or whatever that saying is terrible with the chase but but allies the sentiment remains. I am kind of curious though in terms of obviously your career your passion in wanting to do more. How do you kind of balance those? I don't WanNA put words in your mouth so I don't WanNa say disappointments but when you know you can do more and it's maybe not happening in the way that you want. I am very curious as to. Us performer. How you kind of balance that and I stick to your North Star. If you will well you know what Man I always kind of have this. This hope that holds out that like you know what soon enough every they're gonNA hear the crowd they're going to see what's going on and they're gonNA go all right. It's time to pull the trigger so to speak with right. I S and make this happen and You know without giving too much away here you know. I had a big a very big. I guess disappointment here spores like wrestlemainia coming up and you know. I thought I thought some things we're really going to happen for Elias. Things went one way or another. And you know we're not so sure what's going on now but I have to check myself sometimes. Some things are out of my control. What I can't control is my performance when I'm on television and if I give one hundred percent and stand out in some way or another sooner or later it's going to break through man and I just got a hold true to that you know that hard work pays off things. Squeaky wheel gets the grease all of it you know. Well I mean one hundred percent. I didn't that you you're doing everything that you can do within your power and the to them to realize like you know what this is. The perfect time for lions to shine need. We need time field as well as content. That's entertaining without a Kraut. You don't need a brown. I I'm telling you you put me in that spotlight in the middle of that ring and you have no crowd or you have eight thousand people. I can keep you know. Keep the audience entertained for a period of time. You know I know you again and I look forward to to send that last night The interactions that you had in the back. I think that if they had a crowd if there was a crowd you got some of the best reactions. 'cause I'm sitting here watching you popping. I mean I was losing much hit last night like you becomes funny man like I mean anytime I fancied myself as a as a comedic writer at time so like if you you you have some thoughts about you know maybe doing something. I'd be more than happy to interject my opinion but Just to be ear to bounce off of you know. I'm here for you. Yeah Dude I appreciate that man. I really do appreciate it lights. I just I just really feel if You know they really allow Elias. Open up on television and things like that. We can really Break some ground. There Mansa appreciate that mark. You remember watching Mr Rogers as a kid. Yeah of course like Mister Rogers. He had a bit of audience. I think it was like forty. People is something in the studio but he was primarily entertainer singing like educating kids. And doing all this stuff by himself. He was a one man show. I can see allies in a one man show and then being what we need in a time like this. We need to laugh. We need to be entertained sing songs and then we need to have kicked people like bank. Corbin's ass yes when I can get you to somehow get get right in the show next week or something like that. If I was writing this show they'd be like why are you so still alive is heavy duty? We got this week with allies. I WanNa ask you this. Mark Talks about hour long concerts and what may lie ahead for a allies. I kinda curious man I listen. It looks like the for the foreseeable future. A lot of these shows are going to be emanating from the performance center. So I'm I'm kind of curious. How do you think the next few weeks play out? And what's your excitement level? I mean this is. This is probably only going to happen once and I know it. I know it comes on the backdrop of a really uncertain time in not just American history but world history but it does offer interesting opportunities for the WWe brand going forward. So I'm just kinda curious your thoughts on the weeks ahead. No you know. That's that's it man and now they did it. They knocked it out We did our television so I can only imagine. It's GonNa get better now that they figured out You know exactly what's going to be like so far however long it may be two weeks four weeks six weeks We'll see and there's a lot of opportunities you know and just because we're not in front of a crowd doesn't mean there's opportunities for guys to get over show right sides of themselves Wha- whatever it may be their opportunities are there and as far as I'm concerned it's up to you know. Wwe and and the team to that those opportunities and and get creative with the situation. Who knows man? I mean this. This could be a whole new way to to do television in the future. I think about Business when it comes to things like this happening now the WWe realizes we own the performance center. We don't need to book the Pepsi Center. We don't need the book the Compact Center like You name it we. We could do it on our own. So you're GONNA save money you're going to be able to entertain and you know what like you could do that from anywhere you don't have to do it from Orlando at the performance center. It opened up another centre in Texas. They can open one in New York or wherever and only only do two shows out of those two or three facilities and save millions of dollars so man. I want to think about that. I mean you know if you're speaking to WWe's pockets. Then you're you're saying the right words right like Yeah you know like and that's exactly it and I think in the end the ratings will kinda speak for themselves which that's GonNa be very interesting to be. You know what that's going to end up being given all the situations of last night but certainly man if they can put out a quality. Tv Product that you know it's professional wrestling. It's like studio wrestling right. Which is what it used to be right years years ago. So it's like there's obvious better better as your your mark. You're wrong. It was very interesting. I kind of said leading into this. I felt like he's got a real opportunity to feel like Nwea power which is obviously a studio show now and obviously there's a little bit more crowd there but it's still it's my point is offered an opportunity for the wwe to adapt and allies. That's kind of what I want to end on. We saw a little bit with triple h on commentary last night right like the free flowing nature of it. It was very clear that they weren't exactly sure where they wanted to go. And I'm very curious as a performer. Right there's always conversation especially you know again. Pro Wrestling shows about scripted unscripted. Promos you obviously exists in a realm where you know what I mean. It's probably a little more scripted. Because obviously you're singing and you know where where where where it's supposed to go. I'm just very curious to where you stand on the script adverse unscripted and how you thought that that played out last night on smackdown first off if you felt it. Then that's a good thing because you feel like you're you're watching something organic and you don't want to say I mean triple H is up there doing the whole thing and you know it's not like he's you know memorizing a script in repeating that and that doesn't feel good you know wrestling's very much of our way it feels and I've been I've been lucky enough to be able to create a lot of my own verbiage and things like that because of my character so I'm all for Less scripting and more of allowing wrestlers to kind of find themselves. You know In doing so it's like you know it'll be sink or swim and then you you really will be the best of the best in doing so that way so Yeah I'm all for it man. Lets scripting more more letting the guy speak from the heart and saying the words they would say I like it you know Elias I My my my co host over there Ram McKenna mentioned world news and this. This is a point in history that'll be remembered for ever and ever and ever to end of time. Do you feel like wow the seriousness and the impact that what y'all doing is making history. Oh yeah and I can tell you. You don't myself in Sammy's Ain. We've we go on talk for hours hours at times but man we We definitely had a moment last night where we're like. Wow there's really I mean it's a really wild time and just the world and here we are. We're a part of this and you know. Take away anything else you want to. We're doing something that in the whole world is kind of aware of it In the midst of a really crazy time and so yeah I was. I was certainly aware of that as it was going on. Well yeah and I and I- mayor would Mark said we would be doing that. This is the awesome chant here But no we do merit was a great show last night especially given the circumstances we look forward to. What's ahead man in? Tip The cap to you for pulling it all together and put on a great show last night yourself and and and again for joining us here today. I know it's a Saturday. I'm sure ain't got things. Yeah I'm sure you've got better things you'd want to be doing then jumping on this show so we do appreciate it man and giving us a few minutes no way do. This is great. Thank you guys for having me on. I always love talking wrestling mark. It's always great talking with you Ryan appreciate it man. So yeah you guys have a great one because he don't know Sirius. Xm and listen up commercial free music. Sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car. For just one dollar just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new series exemption subscribers Siriusxm. No car required. It is time for our weekly winner. Mark how you want to do this paper rock scissors. Cu Goes. I WANNA go I had to go. I'M GONNA go. That you debunk my idea as you did last week all right shoot. So I'm I'm going to start off with With raw was good show. It was so many interesting things that happened. They went to aws which you know. It wasn't my favorite show that they've done is my least favourite. Show of the year So far aid W was strong Really strong show but those were contenders for what happened last night. Last night was innovative show. It was something that had never been done before and we talked about. How many times in life do you get the chance or opportunity to talk about never happening in pro wrestler? Not Very often? Yeah so that being said last night never happened and it went over with grown glowing glowing praise and success triple age is a hall of Fame Gadfly but never have I seen him in a capacity That he was in last night with humor with the calling wrestling from the announce table. He didn't have to wrestle to get over. He got over. And then you had the women that started with no crowd and had me reacting in my house like I was there and the promos from semi Zane and from Cicero and interaction with Mojo Riley. There was not a weak point on the show and I haven't even talked about the thing. That's the most impressive to me was how John Cena was able to come back and have PROMO SEGMENT. That was equally as good as some of his greatest. Yeah and curtailing. That was Bray Wyatt. Who came in and it was theater in the park it was shakespearian. He did subtle things like change his tone. Tell a story about how he became the be who he is in an emotional way that was educational to a fan if you had never watched one episode of the wwe this year and you listen to Bray Wyatt. You knew what happened in the whole year. Yeah in a matter of a few minutes and how he went from talking to John. Sina with his head down to focus in on John Seen as is and then talking at him telling them how he really felt and how he pulled everybody in and then he started to verbally abused John. Seen without getting vulgar. He says I'm GonNA slaughter in you. Don't even know it in his medicine. You can do to stop it and so I have to say that last night smackdown was my weekly winner and I mean I is. It was just very very hard for me not to give it to him. Inex- was a close second raw. And W for the first time I think ever was last on my list. Yeah I don't disagree with you I mean raw was Roy was good from the standpoint. That edge was outstanding. Like he he when he came back and he he chokes out. Mvp at the there he hits them with the spear obviously that was all very compelling The Garza matching ministerial. That was good. there's good stuff on it but nothing that. I could have at jump ahead to the weekly winner and listen. I know again. I'll go back to smackdown because mark. I'm not debunking anything. Smackdown is definitely my weekly winner this week. Because of the chaos. They had to deal with the show that was pulled off the the the ramifications surrounding the show and really the way everybody delivered from triple h to Ms Morrison to John Cena and Brian. Everyone really came out and knocked it out of our life. Allies everybody everybody Mo Jo smacking around Michael Cole. I thought that was really entertaining. After he shook the headset off his head. He was all hyped up right like there were moments throughout the show that I really enjoyed and I go back. Because I know people thought the Elimination Replay Elimination Chamber skews. Me Replay was terrible and they didn't like it again. This is a fluid situation. You know there's there's a pandemic sweeping the nation. Wwe had to put this show together. I'm sure things didn't go exactly as planned. So that's probably why we saw that match I'm not going to hold that against him. I understand why it happened now and it was still a really really good show. All things considered it again for. What really boosted it for me. Being the weekly winner which. I probably I probably would have had an X. T. there if it weren't for the circumstances of the way this show played out but with the fact is did play out this way and the circumstances are what they were so smackdown definitely gets my weekly winter. I WanNa go back to what you were talking about and what really I think. Put an authoritative stamp on the on the show in general was the ending and it was that back and forth between white and John. Cena don't seem started that Promo by essentially talking. I thought this is really interesting for this. Feud specifically mark because. I didn't think they were going to go this way right. It was very much John seen attacking you know Bray Wyatt personally not of not even benefiting not even great. Why not even quite the character? I mean this was very much shot. It felt like it Rotunda from the standpoint that he was like this dude is lazy. He had the whole world even to him. Yes not in shape. I mean that took that took a very interesting almost almost a shoot feel which I thought was really interesting for. This feud going forward mark. Do you think this was always a plan part of the future. Do you think this was a bit of an adaption due to the circumstances because I got I really enjoyed it. You know what I think that it was an adaption. I think is an added layer. And now you have. Maybe a month shows where you can tell back stories that you can point out something that you may not have had the opportunity on television to do because everything's kind of Russian. There's not enough time. Well time now. Yeah so slowdow and let's get descriptive. Let's this tell everybody exactly what it is that they're seeing and if we don't tell them then let somebody as good in. Its talented his Johnson and as talented as Bray Wyatt get out there and perform at a level to where everything is self explanatory and last night pin. You get stuff that you would just like. Wow yes I can't believe. He said that Yep and listening to Bray Wyatt being so descriptive in how he was telling how he came to be how he was broken in so many pieces in so scattered and couldn't focus but the theme pulled all that Together for him. Bro. I just couldn't believe it. I thought this was arguably the best work. That brave wide did and to save. That is heavy heavy praise because he is really done. Some amazing work over the last year and a half who last year and a Half Mark. I would go back a lot further than that. I I actually West. We're talking about Bray Wyatt. I thought about the documentary that aired this week on the network. I guess last night it was after Monday night. Raw the FCW documentary and a chronicled essentially the birth of Annex. T what we're living today. And the and the and the journey of many wrestlers The likes of Seth rollins and Roman reigns but also one of the journeys they talked about was the journey of Bray Wyatt Mark. I remember when Bray when the vignette started running it. Fcw Four who was coming off. Become your I think he was Husky. Harrison exte- this was a complete repackaging of Bray. And then he was this by you. I mean for most of you guys remember right. The white pants. The Miami looked the floral shirt the FIDORA but he had this these promos that he was cutting these menacing promos and one of the promos. He talked about this. This this guy who died in a boat fire on a lake in this and the and the shady circumstances surrounding it and then he drops the bomb. Hey that guy was my dad like essentially that Bray. Wyatt is burned his father alive Kenny boat. It was just so menacing. It was so real mark. He had that ability to captivate as Bray Wyatt the moment he stepped on the scene and he has never let off the gas. That dude has been on every time he steps in front of television. Bray Wyatt delivers and that is an incredible endorsement and incredibly dormant from you. When you say that might have been the best thing he's ever done. I don't disagree. It might have been at speaks volumes. How talented Bray White is. And you know we've talked about it when Elias was on that they're going to be guys that are going to step into this more Broadway esque more. You have more time to be explanatory about what you're trying to get across to the people at home that are right through the television. They're going to be guys that haven't got the opportunity that are now going to get that opportunity because they can captivate and they can go out there without it being So scripted finally going people are going to get what they want. They'RE GONNA get people out there that are going be. I mean straight pipe bomb. They're going to be shifting gears to get people to realize. Hey I'm who I am and this is who I am. I'm here to stay. Like allies is one of those guys. You Know Sammy's Zane is one of those guys. We're going to see more of them. We're going to see more of guys like drew go lack like. There's I mean drew McIntyre and Braga Lesnie and Paul Heyman that that whole dynamic. Seth rollins you could throw them out there. Like there's there's going to be guys but there's also going to be guys that haven't got that mainstream opportunity like street profits. Yeah you could you throw the street providence out there and listen Montas. Ford is spectacular. There there's going to be guys that we're going to. We're going to look at a month from now go. Wow wrestlemanias kinda changed. It can attain because guys are going to get over. Yeah so I'm looking forward to that. Well speaking of WRESTLEMAINIA coming up next. We're GONNA dive into the possibility surround. Wrestlemainia listen I know a lot of you guys are talking about loud? You guys are thinking about it. We're in the same boat right. We don't have any answers necessarily can predict. Obviously everything that's going on. We can kind of assume what might happen. But we don't really know we're GONNA get to that coming up next but before we do mark as we talk about the weekly winner going to smackdown. I agree you know weekly. Winner does usually give us a chance to talk about some other shows in the professional wrestling world. I I did want to get your thoughts on one thing in particular. I thought E W was a fun show. I agree with you. It wasn't the best they've done but you know that main event with hangman and Dustin Rhodes taken on Jericho and and Guevarra. That was that was fun. And there were other moments throughout but one of the moments that I thought really stood out and again I wanna get your opinion Lance Archer making I guess what was his debut in e e w at least appearing on camera for the first time we do find out that he is going to be the protege. If you will of one jake the snake Roberts mark. I said before we found out that this was going to happen. You know there was talk of potentially Lou Carbon Brodie Lee coming back and maybe doing something. Whatever the case may be maybe they would use somebody else in that spot. I thought Archer made perfect sense from the standpoint that he's not Brodie Lee. He's not Luke Harper in the sense that he he wasn't on wwf not he wasn't really on North American TV. I didn't think Luke Harper would need that sorta Rub Lance is is coming from New Japan. He's menacing. He's got that sort of vibe where he can remain quiet and meanwhile you can have Jake. The snake come in and really lay it on thick really build that menacing character. I guess what I'm saying. I loved the pairing of those two. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts. Man I I can't wait I. I think that you're right in the sense that everybody that's ever been somebody as you brought up and said hey this is who it is they were former. Wwe guys and Lance was with the performance center for me to say about a year right. Yeah he was a little while and they didn't use them so he took his ball and went to Japan and made a nature himself and justifiably. So go go go to work. And now he's going to be able to have a new leash on life with a big medium to tell people who he is. I would say that he didn't get an introduction. I think he was just introduced. An introduction is making a moment making a presence be known and. He didn't get to do that. He just sat there role. Let's let's see what the future holds for freelance? I think that with somebody like Jake Roberts set aside and Lance can talk shirt like he can talk so these two polarizing characters are GonNa make some good television they w and who knows what else is coming down the pipeline for a deputy. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six. The busted open podcast.

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Moxley def. Jericho & Pro Wrestling Power Rankings

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Moxley def. Jericho & Pro Wrestling Power Rankings

"If you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six. Welcome to the busted open. Podcast this is. Dave would wreck on today's episode. Wwe Hall of Famer Bully Ray and I discussed revolution from Saturday night. That's right eighty. W In my opinion best pay per view so far we talk about new. Awa World Champion the one and only John Knox also we go back to what we saw in Saudi Arabia on super showdown on Thursday afternoon and Goldberg beating. Bray Wyatt for the Universal Championship. How that setting up Goldberg and Roman reigns but getting up John Sina and the Fien Bray wide all that right. Now on the busted open podcasts. Two questions one. Is it the right time for Jon? Moxley and two is Jon. Moxley the right fit as the face of your company. Why wouldn't he absolutely? I was just throwing out that little piece with the Fauzi tour to get your opinion to see if maybe it was a little too soon. And maybe they did it because of outside reasons I don't think so the bill to Jericho and Moxie was really good. Telling the story about the eye in inadvertent way. Moxie got his receipt on Jericho by headbutting. Him in the face and busting him open and having to put stitches and Jericho's face good build good story good characters. Good pay off to a great pay per view and the. Moxley era begins excited to see where they're going to go with him this Monday night and I think this Monday night you. I'm sorry Wednesday this Wednesday night and I think you open up this Wednesday nights of dynamite with your new heavyweight champion Jon Moxley and I do think that Jon Moxley is the perfect fit for a w like he really does fit that fan base for e. W because obviously W and you know this by watching the show on Wednesdays but especially that pay per view this is not the. Wwe were watching. And that's not taking anything from the wwe but we needed something that was different from the wwe on a bigger level and seeing guys that are busted open seeing kind of a little bit of the the salty language just as a rougher type of company then the High Policy Glossy wwe. That's P G friendly and you need that. And I think Jon Moxley is a perfect face of the franchise free. W and we're going to probably be going into the second quarter of two thousand and twenty with two thirds of the shield as heavyweight champions. Because I'm I'll bet a dollar on it. That Roman is going to become the universal champion and obviously Moxie is the w champion. I don't see him losing it very quickly. So we'll have that head to head battle going on also to be fun and then with John Moxley. This is what he wanted. We knew it from when he was a guest on talk is Jericho bully. That he was extremely frustrated. Creatively with the WWE. A you know. He wanted to change to be broken. They're broken in a e W in and now he's your guy. He's your champion Dave. I've noticed something about Moxley. I especially noticed it in the way in that they did last week. And I've noticed one or two other times whenever moxley would be in the ring with Jericho and they would be doing promos going back and forth on the Mike moxley would do something in the ring that I never saw him do in the wwe when he was in the ring. What's that I know what it is? I guess taking please tell me. I have no idea he would smile. He would actually laugh. There would be times at. Chris would crack him and make him smirk. That's because he's in a good mood that's because he's having fun you never saw. You never saw Dean. Ambrose smirk or cracking the ring especially towards the end with whatever they had him. Doing there was no happiness. It was a going through the motions type of character. This guys out there. Having a blast Jericho came out and said something during the way in where Moxley wanted to break down and bust out laughing right there when I see things like that. I know that guys are at peace with themselves and that they're having a blast and that's the way it should be and when you're having fun you can let it all hang out and you can go out there and and put on the type of matches that Jericho and Moxley had. And here's the thing to you. Knew it to after two matches over and he addressed the crowd. I mean that's where you really see Jon Moxley. That's where you see the man not just a character and the personality and the ring but the guy like you know he's saying it's bureau clock and he's going to go have some whiskey. I mean those are the things that that fan base wants to hear when they started his like when he took that long pause and then they played his music and he's like what the fuck like you know he's like I'm not done like the fans pop for that. They love that stuff and Jon. Moxley the perfect guy because once again you look at that crowd. He didn't see kids in that crowd. You didn't see sixty five year old men in that crowd. You're seeing that fan base of eighteen to forty. That's the fan base that you're seeing at. Aws shows and that's the fan base. That was in Chicago on Saturday. Night and that fan base is into just about everything that A. E. W. does and one of the things that I'm happiest about is seeing how much that fan base is into the younger up and coming home grown w stars case in Point Orange Cassidy case in point Darby Alao. I'll say case in point and J. F. N. J. F. is kind of been attached to cody's orange cassidy and Darby Allen don't have the benefit of really being connected to any major star right now although Mj F. as we've know he's doing a phenomenal job of getting heel heat. The lights of this business haven't seen in quite some time but how fricken over is orange cast. It's unbelievable I mean two guys and I'm GonNa get into this a little bit later when I do my power rankings but I mean he took 'em JFK is taking it to another level as A. He'll he'll that you're not used to seeing in two thousand and twenty quite frankly and then on Saturday. It was really a coming out party for hangman page. You and I have talked about hangman. Page like he was missing something he was. He was almost there but he wasn't there. He's there now and you found that out on Saturday during that show hangman. Page Darby Allen M J F Orange Cassidy younger guys that you might have known a little bit about hangman and ring of honor. Yeah you might have known a little bit about. Mj from M. L. W. You might have known a little bit about Orange Cassidy or Who else are we talking about? Darby Allen from some of the indies but now they are becoming more and more well known every Wednesday night and the response that these guys are getting you brought up hangman page pages the stand out star of that. Tag Team match. Not because I'm telling you because that's what the crowd told me. They were into everything that he did. And now you see. Dave remember everybody. That was bitching moaning that Jericho went over on hangman. Page to become the first ever champion. Oh why are they going with the old guy why they go in with the old guy that should be going with the youth? They should be going with hangmen. No you're seeing now. The slow evolution of hangman page the slow unfolding slow and steady wins the race simmer before you boil. He's getting this fan base up underneath him. There channing Cowboy Shit. They liked to see him drink his whiskey and then do those flippy. Larry at things that he does and all the cool shit that he does. They are getting behind him. Here's here's everybody's favorite word here comes organically and then when it is his time. It's going to mean that much more if you would have put that championship on hangman page. Right out of the box. Then where does he go? It's over your dead in the water. You don't have to be a champion people. You don't have to have a championship belt around your waist. What you need to be is over and when you're over you don't need shit. Yeah it's true. I mean he does have the tag bell but if they would have put that world championship on him at the beginning on that I pay per view. You wouldn't be seeing the hangman page. You're seeing right now and listen. When you're getting Kenya Omega Booed and the Young Bucks Booth think about that. The books came out and that place is split. There were there. Were fans books. And whenever Kenny Omega tagged in or whatever Kenny Omega stop and got hanging to try to calm him down. The Fans Booed Kenny O. May think about that. Those are those are the darlings the young bucks in Kenya Kenny Omega and Hangman Page. Because he is so hot and so big right now he actually got those guys booed one of the little things that they did in their thirty minute tag match. Which was I mean? It was so exciting to watch. It was and they did it. They did a good job at times of maintaining the tagging in and out but I would have waited a little longer before I tagged in Hangman. I would've kept ten in there for at least five seven. Maybe even ten minutes and built those people up so big that when penny would've tagged hangman for the first time the place would blue like Hogan defeating Sheikh in the garden. I think they tagged him in a little too quickly. If you WANNA feel fresh look good and smell clean. You don't need a whole makeover or a lot of cold hard cash he just grooming products from Bravo Sierra the company and make simple all. Us made non toxic products. Everyone can afford Bravo Sierras line of body and hair wash deodorant. Shaving Cream sunscreen body wipes moisturizer are feel tested by those who work at the hardest active service members of the US military. They have pioneered unprecedented. Large scale testing program with one thousand active duty servicemembers with simple idea if the products worked for them they will work for all of us. But it doesn't just stop there. Bravo see are also gives back five percent of their sales to programs that help the military and their families. 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I'M GONNA start my power rankings with someone who's not with the wwe someone who is not with a e w but actually somebody who's with rank of audit that's right at number five pc onto the court in the Trap Zone Ball Ryan falls and his name is reuss. That's right Reuss now. Back to being ring of honor champion beating. Pc Oh and rousch. Is that number five at number four as much as it hurts me. Bully as much as it pains me to do this. It's really difficult but I have to tell you my number four the Mesa. You're the Diamond Ring Poems so I love that. Gabby kept at M J F in there just to stick it to me that you've been pizza chips South SCUMBAG M J F at number four at number three a lot of people called it the match tonight and it's even more than what they did on Saturday. It's also what they did on Wednesday night Kenny Omega and hangman page. What a week at my number three but now now pacman cover Kenny Omega and hangman. Page Omega showing you. Why a lot of people consider him to be the best in the world and hangman page. That was coming out party for Hangman. Page you went to another level and they both deserve the third spot on my power rankings. Lot of people are going to hate this. A lot of people actually thinking this is going to be by number one but no no no. It's number to cooperate with themes in another farley created his to go Prescott Fade where he wanted to do. This kid Koper do this. He can't he can't you will cover by doubt. Hey Chappy and Goldberg once again is going to be a champion going to Wrestlemainia. And he'll be your universal champion at Wrestlemania thirty six and we'll see what happens in Tampa and Goldberg at number two and I don't think there's any question bully. Who's at number one? Overall Chris Jericho once a Moxley boot robs covering and of course Jon Moxley your new e w world champion and number one so my power rankings for March second two thousand twenty route shed five. Mj Eh. Four Kenya Omega Hangman. Page at three Goldberg at two and Jon. Moxley at one. Yeah I'm not gonNA break your balls about your rankings. This week I mean they were pretty obvious to me. I could make an argument for flipping four and five but no big deal and and listen. I. I had difficulty with that spot too. Because you're right but you know what the story going in between MJ F. And Cody Rhodes was one of the best stories going on and pro wrestling one hell of a match on Saturday so had to put 'em J. F. at four if I put them at five I guess as you always say I would lose. Credibility was for me to even put them on my power rankings to begin with but I think you would agree bullied. John Moxley deserve to be number one. Well now you're putting the a e W world championship above the WWe Universal Championship. So if we look at it just from a championship belt point of view which is more prestigious to you right now. I I may have to give nod to the w championship because once again when you look at Universal Championship all the you have another world championship in that company. Actually you can make the case you have three World Championships in that company when it comes to men's division with the annexed in the WWe title so the Universal Championship. Right now doesn't carry the same punch as the one Awa World Championship. I WANNA go back down to number four with M J F. What did you think about? 'em J. F. and cody's match. I really liked it. I thought they told a hell of a story. And you know what told the story to me is the fans reactions when M. J. F. One that match there was shocking audience. They did a great job of panning on the faces of that audience. Mean people are legitimately surprised and shocked that. Mj F. One and now you can continue. That story of Cody won the stories over now. You can continue that story between those two. Did you think that the match that they had? And the psychology of their match was a good culmination to the story that had been told leading up to it. I thought so. Yeah I mean because at times they were trying to do whatever they could to cause pain. And here's why cody could have won that match early on. He chose to lift him up at two. He could've won the match and then you had also Mj F taking off the boot and binding. The toe of Cody Rhodes. I thought that was were good elements to mix in to that match. I definitely think that those were good elements to mix in. I was a little shocked that I didn't see more fisticuffs right off the Bat. I saw cody going for a clothesline and going for a kick. I saw him going for wrestling maneuvers and wrestling holds. I thought their story called for more violence in the fists thunder in the fists things that we would have sore from dusty or from Terry funk. I remember watching matches a funk versus lawler or funk versus dusty their stories were all about the facials the punches and kicks. I thought there might have been a little too much wrestling. When wrestling moves in the match. I really really liked cody and MJ. F FOR WHAT IT WAS. I probably would have had a little bit of a different. Take on the psychology of the match and there were some things that went on in the body of that match that I did not understand and if I was if I had both guys in front of me I would question. Why did you decide to go in this direction? So let me ask you this Dave. We saw a bloody MJ correct. Yes how did he get busted open? I honestly don't remember. I honestly member so wait a minute a guy gets busted. Open it in a match and you don't remember how it is. I don't know how it happened and listen I might you know? Forgive me that I don't remember but I honestly don't remember how. Mj F got busted. Open if you don't remember that it was probably not that memorable. But the the fact that he was busted open was memorable to me. But you're right. I believe I can answer your question now. I should know that I should go back and watch it again but I do not remember the moment where. Mj got busted open. It was off of a springboard kick so now I just reminded you cody. Spring did a springboard and kicked off J. F. and his forehead was busted open. How did that happen? I have to go back and watch. I honestly don't remember you got me. My my point is this. I'm not quite sure how he got. Busted open either. I don't know where when why or how. That was a disconnect. I would have liked to have seen something a little bit more glaring. I would have liked to have seen cody With with the buckle of his Weightlifting Belt Bloom Jab match right in the forehead or slices head open or something like that. That would have made sense to me. I would have liked to see Max's head get smashed into the into the ring post or busted on on something the Ring Belt Anything. I have no reason. I have no understanding of why that kid was bleeding. I have to go back and watch his. Wasn't that at the time. Where like Arthur Andersen award low or going at you know going at it so maybe it was something that the cameraman missed or I could be completely off here. Nope and yes you are right. That was when coat. That's when Brandy dove onto wardlow. And then cody came outside. Said put her down and then here came on with a chair what they were doing right there in that moment is they were they were using their smoke and mirrors to stay away from 'em J. F. at that time but I wanNA know how J. F. was busted open. I want to know why he was bleeding. That was that part of the story was not told very well and I think it's a glaring part. No no it's it's funny as you're saying this because as I was watching the match bully it didn't it didn't really. It didn't hinder my enjoyment in the match. I never thought back like wh. When did this happen? That's for sure so up cody's ass. Oh that's true completely. I was in on this match. I'm the way I'm sorry. If the baby face is able to re seat the most hated heel in the business and make him bleed and if we don't know how it happened. It needed to be more glaring. It seemed like blood for the sake of blood now. I'm not disagreeing with you. You're making an excellent point by point. Is that in the moment? I wasn't thinking that in the moment I was caught with people. I I honestly didn't I didn't question because I guess it was from. They got me with the distraction with wardlow brandy and Arn Anderson. But so you're distract. No I did not think of what you just said until you mentioned it now. I'm being completely honest with you. Now if you WanNa get on me because of it you can because all the evidence is in your corner. I'm just saying as as I was watching the match. I was caught up in the match. I wasn't questioning like that should have been a more now now. That you're mapping it out. You're absolutely right when you have a match that a blood feud and somebody's busted open. You probably want to see where and how he got busted open. I'm just saying that I wasn't thinking of that when I was watching the match. I have seen you nitpick. Wwe things that weren't nearly as glaring as that and this is me picking out a moment in time that will come on the show and say can't believe the wwe didn't do this. I can't believe that in that match. We did not see more of a definitive reason. Why M J F dot busted open to me. That is a major point of the match. That is a major receipt for Cody and speaking of receipts did MJ. F- go to whip cody with his weight belt. He did didn't he? M J F. Took off cody's belt and he was going to whip cody with the belt. What did the referee due to referee grabbed it from him? Cassatt with the referee should do correct. Yes what happens when cody got that same weight belt in his hands. What did cody do with it? He whipped he whipped. Mj F. How many times. How many twice. Where did he do it right in front of the referees is how was that allowed? I can't disagree with you. Bali these are the little things Despite the fact that much like you I enjoyed the entire segment. I was into it. I liked it but there were two things to me. Actually there were three things to me. That were so glaring. I'm sitting back and I'm going. Why how like? I thought that was great that the referee took the belt away from 'em J. F. But then he watched cody use. It and people are going to say well. Cody was begging and pleading with the referee that you know. Mj Whip Tim Tim Times. Yeah because that was the stipulation cody had to accept that quote unquote punishment if he wanted this match. That belt should've never been legal right in front of the referees is that's a little part that I disagree with despite liking the whole match. And Billy this is why and thank you because this is when you become the teacher on this show because you're one hundred percent right and you took me to school and I went to class because quite honestly your thousand percent right if you have. Blood feud like that. And somebody like M J F gets busted open. That's a significant part in the match. Now despite everything that was going on with brandy aren't wardlow. That probably should have been a move or should have been highlighted because that's a major part and obviously Jr Beta of repeating it twice that he was busted open. That was a significant turn in the match where people probably should have been grabbed in their attention grabbed. And you're absolutely right and then when it comes to the officiating and a lot of people go get on a w about the lack of officiating if you're going to say the positive which was the Jericho in Moxley match where they did a great job of explaining what she was doing. Officiating that Main Event Championship match then in a blood feud match like we saw with them. J. F. and cody. They should have done some explaining their. I can't this pulley. It's hard for me to disagree with you because you're right. I'll take you to the third part that had me scratching my head a little bit the finish. How did J. F. Win were the how did he? How did he win the match like really? Well yeah the the the ring? The he had the foreign Durang and head coach. Did you. Did you ever see the Ringo on? Mj FS hand. No never see 'EM J F. Hit Him with the ring. I mean now you you saw in his entrance. He handed the ring to wardlow. And then you saw wardlow handed him something that you would have to think that it was the ring. So cody got knocked out with the ring which I have no problem with. I wish I would have seen that ring a little bit more as a fan so I knew they did a good job of telling me on commentary the Damn Kid had the ring on good job by Jr and the guys that announced but Mj took to crossroads right before that. Twenty twenty five minutes deep after he was busted open and bleeding. They basically no sold to crossroads to me a little. Bit of a disconnect. I can't because he did. He hit him with two and then he picked them up to do a third crossroads. And that's when Mj heff hit him with the ring. Fuck now I got. I got to go back and watch the match again. You know when I'm not pointing these things out to a to screw with you. I'm telling you that as a fan watching this match those are things that stuck out to me. I'm not sitting there and you know putting it under a microscope and looking for things that are wrong. I completely invested in that match invested in the whole show but when I see Samba the he'll bleeding. I'm asking myself what the hell just happened. How is he bleeding? Why is he bleeding? Did I miss something? And if you're going to have a moment in time like that you should be never asking yourself. How did this happen because M J of bleeding was a big deal? Totally finally got the opportunity to get back at M. F. Now I know people are GonNa say oh well. He whip them with the belt. That's fine but he should have never been allowed to whip him with the belt. And if you'RE GONNA bust he'll open. I want to know how he did it and I get it and you know what I still enjoyed the match anyway like and you're bringing up points that are extremely valid and understandable that. You're watching it in the moment and you're questioning it. I think and this is where I gotta give M J F O of all people credit. I think he's so good at what he does that. I glossed over a lot of what you're talking about until you brought it up and I was so caught and here's the thing bullying you could get on me and the fans could get on me and it's not even about being caught up cody's ask because this is more about praising M J F than anything else is that I was so caught up in that match. I didn't see those glaring mistakes like you did. Now maybe I should have. But I didn't and I was really entertained and M J F to me did a phenomenal job on Saturday night. I will give you two out of three of those things because you are so caught up in the match if you didn't realize that up the belt situation with the wrath if you are so caught up in the match or just like Yay referee. Let cody use the belt. Okay I'll give you that if you were so caught up in the match yourself. Holy Shit that just got hit with to crossroads and still was able to hit him with the. You've got caught up in that. That's fine how you did not question the blood and how dot they're beyond me. I like I wish like. Jr would have said well. Maybe when he took the kick the bottle cody's boot Busted him open or maybe when he fell down he hit a piece of steel on the railing and he was bustling. I had I didn't know from the move and I didn't know from commentary. How the he'll was bleeding and maybe it's the fact that they didn't know either they probably didn't want to speak out of turn and say something. That may have been obvious for the people watching on TV. And I can understand that bully like if you're Jr and you didn't catch it and maybe you're so worried that other people have caught it. You're probably not going to say anything. But it's a moment that was completely lost. One of the brightest new. Usc You know what you're doing. With the next level you know. Become a porn star fighters in the division. The middleweight title is the mind when Israel Etta Sonya Romero a UFC two forty-eight joy Sirius xm fight nation this Saturday full coverage beginning at six PM eastern followed by post. Fight Me Accident Analysis Ame Sern Sirius. Xm Channel What fifty six. We bring the fight. Do I am just glad. Bully that super showdown was on Thursday afternoon as opposed to Thursday night? Because I might have gone. Sleepytime Bo Bo's before Goldberg Jackhammer. On the fiend Bray Wyatt. I mean that was kind of like a Chat Hammer. It was a mini. Jack Hammer did was there. He met well he meant well but as mark would say bliss his art bray went up like dreamer would after seventy three pieces of Sushi. Oh my God given army Jr. exactly I I mean like you did a great job defending the decision and honestly. They're really doesn't need to be a defense. They needed to take the title off a Bray Wyatt to have to put it on Goldberg because really what they want from the. Wwe Universe is for Roman reigns to get cheered wrestlemainia. Thirty six when he beats Goldberg. And that's most likely what's going to happen and it's a rough road to get there but bully as you said and we have both said millions of times that universal championship should have never been on the waste of Bray Wyatt and honestly I think completely killed for a time. Seth rollins these are wrestling fan. She think championships mean everything. When you're that over as the fiend is you don't need a championship to justify anything. Dusty Rhodes never ever needed a championship whenever the championship went on dusty. It was for a short period of time because they needed to do something with a championship but the whole idea was to get him off. I'll tell you a little backstory David. I'M NOT GONNA take a lot of time talking about me. All eight Dudley E C W Championships were done for one reason to take the belts off of us pull never put the championships on Bubba in Devon because he wanted BUBBA and devante run with the championships. It's because he had them they wanted. He wanted to get other baby faces over and he knew that he had a team in Bubba and Devan who can handle losing every single night and losing championships and get these other teams over. Certain guys just don't need championships. And the fiend. As you've been screaming never did and for the people out there who said in my tweet. You just don't get it. It's amazing that thirty six hours later. Chris Jericho put out almost the exact same tweet about bulk. Goldberg saying you. Just don't get it and you really don't and when I tell fans you just don't get it. I'm really not trying to take a shot at them. I'm not telling them like you're dumb and I'm smart when I'm trying to say is you don't understand if you really want. If you're going to go out of your way to re dirty you WanNa know so much about the business and you're so smart then really go out of your way to become an educated fan not a smart mark and an educated. Fan Realizes that Goldberg winning the championship is a better move heading into wrestlemainia season. It's a better move for Roman. It's a better move for the fiend. Because now he's Got Sina. They have set their chessboard up as best as they could going into Tampa. And if I'm the WWE. Dave I'm starting off Wrestlemainia with Goldberg. I Roman reigns wants fear once beer two spears to spears Spears Spears Spear Jack. Aber take out one to boom spear Superman Punch finish. Yeah that's the way to go. I mean the last match what I would think that we're GONNA see. His drew McIntyre and brock listener. I think this is the perfect match to have to start the show. Because I don't think any of the seventy five thousand fans that are going to be in Tampa are going to be Cheering for Goldberg. I would think and I would hope they're going to be behind. Roman reigns I- behind Roman reigns. I WANNA see Roman win. I WANNA see Roman wind because of the personal battle that he has battled back from. Yeah I WANNA see Roman win because everything that I've seen him do from the moment he's come back he's done well. Roman always has exciting matches to me. Roman never lets me down in the ring. He's going to be in there with Goldberg too. I WANNA see Roman and Goldberg. Go ten minutes absolutely not. I WanNa see Roman and Goldberg. Follow the Goldberg Brock. For because we know it works start off Wrestlemainia with a championship. Changing hands and WRESTLEMAINIA would a championship changing hands. Now we'll get into the Bray Wyatt side of the equation and just a minute. But let's talk about Roman reigns. Obviously all arrows are pointing towards Roman reigns winning the Universal Championship at Wrestlemainia thirty six. I mean it's almost a guarantee. How do you know I mean for crying out loud? Bully on Sunday. We have elimination chamber. There is not going to be a men's limitation chamber match. Why because they already told you. You're getting Roman and Goldberg on smackdown on Friday Roman came out. He we challenge Goldberg. Who's next I'm next your next next next next next. We're getting that match at Wrestlemainia thirty six. See you're not even gonNA get a men's elimination chamber match on Sunday. That's how hot they are going to. They can't wait to put that title on Roman reigns. Are you going to be disappointed? If Roman reigns wins the championship. No Do you think Roman has earned the right to become universal champion again? Yes you're being honest. I'm being completely honest. What do you think the chances for success are with that match? If I think it's actually going to be pretty good. You brought up the fact that this could be another wrestlemainia twenty where you know. The the fans could completely shit on it we saw that also at Wrestlemainia thirty four New Orleans with brock and Roman it was in the main event and it was a really good match in the fans chose to shit on it. There was some fans that actually left during that match because they didn't care to see who is going to win different story to me. Wrestlemainia thirty six. What is Wrestlemainia twenty and it was you said? Thirty four was Roman and Brock. Guess what did twenty and thirty four have in common with fans being disappointed about those matches they didn't WanNa see also Broccoli's what they thought was on his way out the door but they were also on last. How do you avoid the same thing happening to Goldberg and Roman you put it on? I when W- what do I always tell you Dave the best position to be in I give me that. I spot on any show with their. Whether it's an indie show around the block from my house or Wrestlemainia. I WANT TO BE ON I. I want to catch the emotion. I want that raw energy. I WANNA beat Detroit rock city people call it cheap. Well anybody succeed can succeed if you go on I great. Somebody's gotTA BE I. I'd like it to me. How does the WWE fight that? Negative reaction put them on. I give it three to five minutes getting get on. Get off. Get out go home if you take the risk of having those fans wait seven hours for that match between Goldberg Roman. You're you're playing with fire dead. He's not we could do about it. You would agree though if you're having those fans wait seven hours. You're taking a big chance that they may shit on that match in Tampa. The last match should be drew and Brock. If you if you put Roman and Goldberg on the later that night gets in my opinion unless they come up with some phenomenal story that has people so emotionally invested in this match in the next couple of weeks the longer wrestlemainia goes the more chance. Roman and Goldberg have to not succeed. I'm starting Wrestlemainia. As of right this very second with Goldberg and Roman reigns the only thing. Though bully is that I know for a fact I if I had enough money and I didn't suffer from walkathons I would put every dollar. I had bet that Roman is GonNa win and be Goldberg for that Universal Championship Wrestlemainia. Thirty six I still have. Some doubts about drew McIntyre and Brock. Leser there's a part of me that thinks that Brock Leser may retain that WWe championship in Tampa. If I had to choose I would probably choose drew. But I still think there's a good chance that brock may retain if you're if you're the wwe and you WanNa stick with brock is your champion. Do you still put that match on last. Yes 'cause it would shock people. I don't think they're setting drew up to lose just by the way. The rumble was booked. And I know brock I I don't need nobody to tell me just by watching the rumble. I know who put the rumble together at least up until Brock was eliminated? That's all rock listeners. Psychology because he's setting drew up for success. Brock took the best claymore. I've ever seen over the top rope. Kick putting them out of the ring. There's a reason why brock is doing this. There's a reason why brock laid there. There's a reason why brock allowed that shot to happen. Rocking stupid. Brock knows how to get people over now. If you were to tell me that brock was going to go over at Wrestlemainia and they were going to give drew his rematch. The very next night on raw and br and drew is going to beat Brock on raw. Okay maybe maybe but now. We're losing that wrestlemainia moment if they were going to do that with any championship. I'd rather see them do that with Goldberg. And with Roman because people will be ready for Goldberg to lose and if Goldberg finds a way to retain and Roman gets his shot the next night and they do it on TV more people. See it and it's a carryover story. I don't think that's the way they're going to go. I think you're getting Roman and drew as your new champions and they're using the older guys to help get the younger guys over just like Sina will do for Bray and just like taker will do for. Aj maybe and if and if Kiecker goes over. Trust TAKERS GONNA get. Aj over Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm FIGHT Nation Channel. One fifty six or on demand with the series Xm APP. First of all bully after hearing what you had to say. I be surprised. Now if they don't open wrestlemainia thirty six with Goldberg and Roman reigns and in Roman reigns becoming your new. Wwe universal champion. You can almost set in stone after hearing what bully had to say earlier. But let's look at the Bray Wyatt side of the equation and there were a lot of fans that were upset and pissed off that you built. Bray Wyatt you built and built this character. And his personality. He was in the ring wit Seth Rollins. And Seth Ron's Henham with ninety eight chair shots. You know you know. Hit the curb stomp thirteen times and still wasn't able to beat I'm half ASS Jackhammer and next thing you know you have a new champion and I understand that and I get it but don't forget this that Bray Wyatt. The fiend was standing when it was all said and done. He was on both feet glaring at Goldberg. That's extremely significant. And that's a moment you can play over and over again and all it will take bully is one firefly funhouse with Bray Wyatt saying that that championship is just the toy in his toy box and meant nothing to him and it's about the soles of his. You know where I'm going. They can easily gloss over that loss from that Saudi show on Thursday afternoon two days ago. Bray Wyatt put up this exact tweet to my mockingbird not a loss but instead a sacrifice he wasn't a chapter in my tell I began with a mission and now and now I'm where I was supposed to be. You'll see not a loss but a sacrifice. How's that Dave? He's basically telling you that the championship did not mean that much him. Winning the championship was gravy. He sacrificed that championship because he wanted to be. In a position to get to John's Seena. I began with a mission and now I am where I'm supposed to be. Well where is he now? He's against Jonah Wrestlemainia. If this is where he's supposed to be. This means this is where he wants to be thus standing up right after the one. Two three it's wrestlemainia season kitties and there's a really good reason why they did what they did. Well you mentioned John Cena. Let's go back to smackdown from Friday and here with John. Cena had to say this year wrestlemainia should go on without Johnson. This is not hit by. This is not good but it is good bye for now and it's the right thing to do. I like you believe in the future. This company I like you respect the day at work that WWe superstar. It's to every single time they step into the ring and wrestlemanias spots should be earned not demanded this betting on the future. This you wrestlemainia goes on without John and then right after that so Johnson is saying I'm I'm I'm done. You know the Wrestlemainia should be about the youth. I don't you don't just demand the spot on Wrestlemainia you earn your spot now. What is the whole story bit about with the Fienberg? Getting back at all the people that have wronged him John. Cena would never go after defeating Bray wide if the fiend. Bray wide had that championship John. Cena said it. It's not for him. It's for everybody else then. Earned a spot so he's certainly not going to go after a title but now it's a completely different story. Why because all you to do is go back to wrestlemainia thirty. John Cena Beats Bray Wyatt and that started the decline of Bray Wyatt. There's just story. He couldn't do it with the championship so he sacrificed that championship. Because he knew Johnson a goody goody two shoes whenever challenging him for that championship so I gotta get rid of this and now I finally have Johnson aware I want him at Tampa for Wrestlemainia. Thirty six in the past fifteen minutes of this show if you did not get it before and still do not get it. You are the problem people we have just mapped it out to you. We have just given you the story that will and should unfold the story that Bray told you by standing up after the Jackhammer the story that Bray told you on social media the story that John told you in his promo the story that Dave just told you dating back to Wrestlemainia thirty. This is what was supposed to happen. This the fiend losing Goldberg works for everybody. It benefits everybody and hopefully your ignorance is not blinding you. So many people were up in arms about it and you know what it's okay if you were up in arms about it but can now sit back and go on now. I get it. That's cool man. Good I'm glad you did it now but if you still don't get it. I don't know what it's going to take for people to understand that the storytelling means more than a championship around the fiends. Waste THAT. He didn't need in the first place bullying our two. And we're talking about E W revolution and you're talking about certain spots that bothered you in that match and I said you know what went right over my head because I was enjoying it and you said you got 'cause 'cause you got your head so stuck up cody's ass that was you saying look like a wick the fuck up like come on and wake up. Look at this. I'm telling you this respond to what I'm telling you. It's exactly what you're telling the. Wwe Universe right now and you did too. Yes because the stories right there. It's plain as day. It's read out for you and you know what again the wwe wins. Because if you're so angry about Goldberg winning they want you to Boo Goldberg at Wrestlemainia thirty six. They win at that too because they want Roman to be that baby face except champion that you never have accepted him debate. Now you finally will. Because they're putting him in the ring with Goldberg. The guy that you absolutely right now so in the eyes of the WWE. It's a win win. Situation for them in Tampa and if you are a fan or a wrestler or a veteran or an absolute anybody out there who's listening that does not agree. Please call in the show. We would be more than happy to debate you on. Why taking the championship off of the fiend was the absolute right. Call THE FIEND. Standing up tells you everything you need to know. And if you don't believe it read his tweet he called it. A sacrifice means the finish. Didn't mean shit to him. Go ahead hit me with your half ass. Jackhammer debt this championship away from me. I don't want anymore. It's holding me back. It's holding me back from the one person I need to find. I need to hunt and I need to avenge and it's John Sina from Wrestlemainia Thirty. And what are we getting? Now come on people wake up. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm busted open from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Xm by nation channel and fifty-six busted open podcast.

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Episode 32: Isolation V - The Walkabout Effect

Bill and Frank Eat Pop Culture

1:00:57 hr | 4 months ago

Episode 32: Isolation V - The Walkabout Effect

"It's up to me no no no. Tv Our everybody. Welcome the bill and Frankie pop culture. I am frank in with me as always is bill and for the third time in a row. If I'm not losing track of numbers Johnny beaver Billon John. How you doing guys doing pretty well. You know the the exile or isolation starting to bother me a little bit but it doesn't look like you know it looks like we. Even the most optimistic forecast means saying we have another two months of this so And that's optimistic so we're GONNA have to learn to live with it. The good news is I get to talk to you guys more often which has been one of the things getting me through this. So I'm happy to be Happen to be talking to you again. Tonight they'll tell me what I can't do now. It's good it's good. It's good to be if you guys. I'm glad we're we're here. I'm glad we got to get together last night for Wrestlemainia. It's been great chatting with you fully with you. Bill and Alan yes. We had really good weather here over the weekend so Mary and I just put like to ten hour. Days of yard work in Just something to do didn't feel like sitting around the house you know you're outside talking to neighbors across the street so you still felt like you were back in normal times So that was really nice Being on my feet. I don't think I've been on my feet for that long in a in a while Just sitting around the house but Yeah it's continues to drone on. It's starting to it's starting to feel it's starting to feel normal. Which is a little scary. Yeah that's true. I'm see I like to this morning. I got up and I had my daughter with me this morning. So I got started on her schoolwork and checked into my work. Email started doing my work stuff and and you know it took a couple of minutes from me to realize like Oh. I'm not at the office. This is like my normal thing now. Which is alarming. And kind of good. I guess at the same time. Yeah so luckily though to To to give us something to do and look forward to be excited about this past weekend. We had WRESTLEMAINIA So WE'RE GONNA be talking about that today and then. Um We'll be talking about lost as well so without further ado guys. I think we should. We should start the show all right guys so this past weekend we had. Wwe's pop culture touchstone. Wrestlemainia is an annual pop culture extravaganza. Little different this year lot different this year for one thing it was presented over the course of unites which has been sort of polarizing for people. You know we'll get how we felt about it but again also also polarizing is the fact that ww decided to do it at all. There's a lot of people out there that shot thought it should have been postponed before the event before before watching the event this weekend. I was in the camp of thinking it should be postponed because not only is wrestlemainia. All about spectacle and the crowd and all that stuff just at a public health. I guess you know you can make a case that it should have been postponed. I think my feelings have kinda changed after the weekend because it really did. Entertain me Mike tap to be taken away from the news or social media or whatever and just do something else and i. I surprised myself I was able to sort of get lost in Miami and I think a lot of it had to do that. You know we were you John and I were on a zoom call for for the show so we were kind of back and forth as we were watching Talking about what? We like what we didn't like. But you know it really was kind of escape. And and I think you know after reading about the stringent sort of testing. They had for everybody that got to go into the building. It seems like they were a safe as they could be and I think even though. Wwe And the city of Tampa and everybody is probably going to take a financial bath on this thing. You know. It did what it did what I think they set out to do. We can get into specifics matches and stuff like that but on the whole I was Kinda glad it happened. And it really. You know some matches were boring and I think. Wwe could really done more to make it different which we'll get into but on the whole. I'm I think I'm kind of glad they did it. What do you? How do you feel free? Yeah so I'm with you go into this weekend. I was super super opinionated on the side of this thing should be. This thing should be postponed. Now I would say I still think it should have been postponed but I'm glad it wasn't if that makes sense because I found myself like I said at the beginning of the show. I spend all day out working working doing yard work and I found myself all day looking forward to sitting down at the end of the day and watching Wrestlemainia in having a couple of drinks and it's like I was thinking about it all day and how they're going to do this. And what's GonNa Happen Blah Blah Blah? And and then Sunday. Same thing can't wait one more night. Can't wait to sit down and you know take a shower. Sit Down and have a couple of drinks watch WRESTLEMAINIA SO DO overall super glad. It happened obviously super entertained. My Hat's off to them now. Listen I I. I'm very skeptical when it comes to big companies Saying they're doing things for the greater good but for whatever the reason the true reasons behind closed doors that will never know that they did make you know four John with the show this weekend this past weekend you know hats off to them for giving people something that they weren't able to get anywhere else in this super weird isolated time. I mean it. It's so strange to be in a situation where there are no sports on TV. And my my stepbrother. Who hasn't watched? Wwe In probably fifteen years. Text me this weekend. He's a huge sports fan and he said I just signed up for the WW network. Because there's no other semi competitive sporting events on television so I need to watch something and he watched it he loved it you know he got the CF lick and athletic show And I mean in that regard. Yeah it was. I mean under the circumstances I I. I'm glad it happened. I'm glad I'm glad it happened. I still think it would have been better if they postponed it. But like I said it's I'm in a weird place. I still think it should have been postponed but I'm glad it wasn't John. I certainly enjoyed having the escape. So you know again. I the morality whether it should have happened or not aside. I think the it was a pleasant surprise. The the quality of the product given the restraint and it seems like kind of you know. Run into some of the dirt. Chief is everyone else called pleasantly surprised to think there was a lot of anger is a very kind of low expectations equal quality wrestling going experience with the whole thing that everybody was just. Kinda like this is going to be a disaster. This is not a great idea. They'd seen the the sort of Empty Empty Empty Stadium matches and and how they work in the past and over the past couple of weeks. We're very concerned but I think overall it worked. Well I I I think the experimental stuff ended up being by far the most fascinating and I wish they may be doubled or tripled down on some of that but maybe they didn't have the time to really do that. You know for more than a couple of matches but it was still there. I thought we had some really great matches A few wet farts but and then some really really interesting stuff that we will probably never see. Wwe again so that alone is worth watch. Yeah before early Bill Bill. Have you read like have you read meltzer's or Alvarez's reactions ten show? Yeah they're they're to fucking ignorant trolls. They should all over it right well. And they didn't shit all over everything but I I saw meltzer take a dump on the edge Orton match Which is absurd. I mean I understand the criticism that you know maybe it could have been ten minutes shorter and it would have been a little better fine if you know if you think it went too long. That's that's fine. To say was the most boring wrestlemainia match in history is ridiculous considering the undertaker once fought giant Gonzales. I mean that's just absurd And then Alvarez crapped on the on the funhouse thing which I hate Alvarez so I called him a troll on twitter but that's GonNa pull I understand like even when we were why the three of us were watching that last night we were like some people are just absolutely hate this even when we were watching it. I was like I don't understand this like I don't understand how there's a winner and a loser here. I don't understand what this is so even I had like mixed over it was really well and it. It was really cool. I love seeing scenic go through all the different stages of his career but some of it. I didn't understand at all like. Nwea was really cool. But I didn't necessarily get it Maybe I'm missing something but I can understand how people were you know. Some people were if you WANNA be turned off by that. That's fine. Yeah I think they to me like that was. That was very ambitious of them. I think they tried to and I think they tried to. Do something really really really really ambitious. I mean he kind of like laid a little bit of the groundwork before the match where he said you know. There's there's parallel worlds or whatever that exists that were monsters. Live and demons and Blah Blah Blah. So I guess that's I guess what that was is you know they a firefly funhouse match or the the firefly funhouse exists in one of these worlds or is or is a doorway to one of these worlds which is where the fiend is from and and they they were. GonNa pull John Cena he he. He pulled John Cena into one of these parallel worlds. In Kinda deconstructed. His deconstructed his whole career. And I mean what? What was the voice over at the end? It was like John. Cena saying he was GONNA put down one of the most over privileged wrestlers of all timer hyped and I mean I guess it was all about. He's kind of like a burpee but more like metaphysical like I I. I don't know outlined putting down the over hyped most over hyped. That was from a Promo CD. Cut like two weeks ago on smackdown. Yeah Yeah I mean I think it you know we could definitely break down the the INS and outs of the funhouse match itself as far as you know like. Oh it's the equivocating seen at Hogan with the N. W. O. And the Saturday night main event. And you know I think there's something to be said about kind of going through that but on a more Meta level I was just fascinated by. Wwe's is so weird about how they treat their history and sometimes it's like we don't want you to remember anything that happened more than six months ago and other times. It's you know we're there so reverential toward their history. It really depends on kind of Vincent Man Mood that day and it was very fascinating to see this unbelievably produced unbelievably ambitious for. Wwe We project actually put out to the masses and something that I thought it was pretty ballsy and I thought it was something honestly with the exception of maybe the pipe bomb and it was probably the least likely thing I would think. Vince McMahon would ever produce in his entire life so I would just kind of flabbergasted by that reading the dirt day. It's Vince loved it. Like they presented it to him fully thinking he was GonNa kill a lot of it and he loved it even even the you know the the big line that everybody loved was the Vince. Mcmahon Papa doing though. That's good shit. Which is which is sort of Vince. Willing to make not only make fun of himself. But that's that was. The line was famous from the win Dean Ambrose Slash Jon Moxley left. Wwe And did the Jericho. Podcast the big thing that came out of that. Was You know? Moxley making fun events for you know thinking dumb things are funny and always saying that's good shit I liked. I liked that. Vince was willing to make fun of himself. I liked it. They're willing to go into their history. I thought some of the editing was fantastic especially when when it first started and Bray Wyatt was cutting the same. Promo Kurt Angle cut for John. Cena's debut and they did paralyzing with. I thought it was unbelievably produced and I went and watched it again today. Because I wanted to give you know give it a fair shake like not watch it not being flabbergasted by what I was seeing and like I agree I mean it was. I'm not sure all of it landed. But it was sup- Ram. It was much better than having John's a rusty John. Cena come out and have a Shitty to star match with Bray Wyatt. I'll say that much if if Meltzer or somebody's going to rate it like a match it wasn't a Matt Right. It was shitty match. Well then you're fucking retarded because it it's not you're not even we're not even about a match it was a it was a produce segment it. Would they were they? Were we keep saying the word ambitious? In the reason I say that is because I think they were there is a. I think there was a lot more that was probably talked about in the writing writer's room behind the behind the the the the meaning of what it was in. They didn't do a very good job of getting it. All of it across. Yeah all of it land. There was yeah now. I said that you guys last night I was like. I can't imagine your son. Understanding three quarters of what was going on there you really had to be somewhat Stephen. Wwe WCW history to really understand. What the Hell is very inside baseball for sure? Yeah and I mean a Kudos for seen it come out and fucking make fun of himself and and yeah you. You're absolutely right. It's like what would you rather see something new and different like that on a wrestlemainia that's GonNa be in front of an empty house anyway or something. That's weird in different in place. Perfect to the Gimmick of the fiend and Bray Wyatt and the reality is seen probably wasn't allowed to wrestle and apparently reading. I did I did. The appropriate amount of scouring the Internet today for reaction and apparently Steiner was heavily involved in the in the writing and scripting like wasn't just like he showed up and did what they told him to he was he was into he was involved. Why was involved So I mean I think they took a big swing you know. Maybe I don't know if I'm willing to say it was a home run but it was like a ground rule double like. I think you know it was a good job if he if he disappears for a couple years now or whatever for an extended period of time. I think it'll make even more sense if he's back in in three months than it's going to be a little weird but I don't think yeah I think I think he was only even involved in this because of the situation like you didn't get into ring shape and work off ring rust and trained for three months. I think the only reason he was in this at all is because a he could do it without training and be like it was a situation where like. Hey we could really. This is really gonNA be Weird. We could use your name to help sell this. I mean I would also say to that. It was not a match but at the same time. It certainly put Bray Wyatt over and you know that that's what somebody who has you know. We used to Kinda blasting a lot but frankly over last half decade. He has done a good job putting other guys over and this segment basically. Wwe buried him with the Goldberg Stop. And they've now reinvigorated interest in bright white again and again so props them for that too And props to John. Cena for being willing to kind of put a guy over. Maybe he's got other stuff going on. It's okay with him but either way I'm happy they did it and that leads. You know that leads perfectly what we were talking about. You know what we were just saying. Would you rather see this or would you rather see a shady Bray Wyatt John Cena match and that leads us into a free before we lead? I I mean I have so sorry. You'RE GONNA be mad at me. I messed up your your your Your segue which sadly was going to be an amazing segue but I think the one point that needs to be made as but there are wrestling fan boys out there that they would rather see a two star yet marks shitty wrestling match than something that makes you fucking think in something that's different and that's the people who are panning. It like Dave Meltzer in Bryan Alvarez if the wrestling it if those kind of segments become more and more those guys are out of job so of course they fucking hate it right because you can't critique the fucking wrestling in the psychology in the bullshit. It's like it was fun. It was fun it was entertaining. It was weird as shit period. Go AHEAD BILL. Segue my allowed to do that. Now segue segue. It's perfectly into like before we suck off. Wwe Too much. They took a nice big swing with Sina and why they took a a a great swing with taker in Asia and I think hit a grand slam but the before we get into that one. The criticism I have is is what John. Sort of alluded to at the beginning of this. They didn't take enough swings like there were too many just matches and like I kind of think. The event was so pleasurable for the three of us because we were talking to each other as it was happening. Otherwise some of those matches. You're like okay like they're not doing they're not doing enough here to make this different and I mean also just having three of your four major singles titles matches be wet. Far matches was really disappointing to yeah I mean I just think before even taking away like getting into specific matches and who they over and how long they worked. I just think like we were talking about on our last show. It would have been nice if they maybe it. Maybe it's instead of shooting unlike Lucia underground. Maybe if they had had more gimmicky stuff that they could have done on location or done something different with the camera work like but you know aside from the two really weird things. They did an edge Orton which went all over the place. Everything else was kind of the same. It was shot like like every other matches shot on Ron smackdown I really think you know with this format. They should have done. They should've spruced it up. A little bit yeah. They relied very heavily on the charisma. The wrestlers themselves rather than doing anything with the production outside of the two really major major off the wall matches. I agree yet so and I kept saying this all weekend. You know it's like wrestling is only good when the psychology is good and it's very dependent on that psychology to be good. You take a crowd away from wrestling in. The psychology is pretty much gone. So you're is you need to have in lieu of that. You need to have something else in. They didn't they didn't add anything else. In lieu of that. It's not the workers fault the work great for the most part. I mean there were some matches that the work rate was really really awesome. But it they didn't. They didn't do the boys any favors in lieu of that psychology in that crowd reaction. There needed to be something else and they just it's like they just they mailed it in. Well I mean I would add to that like I think it's you know wrestling. The success of wrestling is psychology. Yes half of psychology and then the other half is good booking and I think like the booking was you know there are a couple of things that maybe I would have done differently. I mean but the booking was pretty good but psychology is all. It's one hundred million percent based on crowd reaction. Everything you're doing in there is to get a reaction whether it be a popper you want heat or you want you know you're trying to turn the crowd whatever you're trying to do. It's all based on reaction so when you take the crowd reaction out of the equation like there's all unless they do something production wise. There's nothing the guys the boys can do like. They're they just have to go out and try their best you know and some of them. I think really did like you know some of the matches the ones the ones that Spring to mind immediately you know in terms of matches that stayed primarily in the ring area. I thought Oh rollins was still pretty good without the crowd they were they were certainly they built up spots and stuff just like they would if there was a crowd and I thought you know it was good enough that I was sort of in the match. I wasn't like board. I wasn't looking somewhere else and I would say the same thing about the Morrison Kingston and whichever USA was in the ring. I thought that was pretty good too but a lot of them and I noticed that a lot of the ones that were really kind of fell off for me. Were you know the younger younger people? You know the the veterans sort of realized what was going to happen added something to it. Lino like owns around talk to each other. The whole match Edge Norton did the same thing and even To a degree Morrison in Kingston and So did the same thing Thought the veterans the veteran matches ended up being better on the whole than the than the younger guys yeah. I'm not sure if it's because you know. They're because they're veterans. They don't have to call the matches in the ring is much in the you know. Throw Brian Sammy's into that. Mix Too you know they they they. They use the silence of their advantage to trash talking to build a story that way The smart people you know. I don't know that how much that happened in the ladder match three great wrestlers putting on a great show but particular lot of similarities between the Brian Z match and then Later on with the rollins match because they they knew this they had an opportunity a unique opportunity to do something a little different and they took it. And you're right the young guys either weren't capable or able or not to do the same. I thought the same he's into. Brian match was super entertaining. Just for that reason because same museum was so fucking obnoxious. The whole match right right and it was. I mean he was he was repellent the entire match with no crowd reaction with no crowd work. Just being fucking obnoxious douchebag trinite it like it connected through the screen and I thought the same thing in a different way with rollins at Owens. They did a good job conveying emotion even without the crowd that you know it worked. It was an amazing but it worked. And then I thought Edgy Norton like which which ended up. Sort of crazily being most polarizing match on the card because it seems like half of the people really loved it and half the people thought it was long and boring. I happen to love it. I liked it. It wasn't overly gimmicky. I loved it. It was just like sort of a slugfest. Yes and I thought that Edge Norton did a good job conveying the appropriate emotion. I think it probably could have been a little shorter. I wouldn't have even we were saying we love both of those guys and I love edge. We all you do too but even we were saying while we were watching it like okay. This is approaching thirty minutes now. Like it's it's long but then you also gotta you gotta you gotTa remember. Wwe New brock listener. Andrew McIntyre is going to be three minutes. You know so they need to make up the time somewhere like so. These guys went long deal with anybody that did not enjoy that ordinary edge match. I mean that's like disassociating the fact that Ed was there in the first place and writing flabbergasted by his ability to that I I don't know what the fuck is relative. You're just looking for like let's pretend edge didn't have this massive neck surgeries been gone for ten years and just be in all that he was capable of doing that. Kind of go. Fuck yourself is my reaction. Does anybody that was not impressed by that. Yeah it's like this guy like the fact that I was sitting here in two thousand twenty watching an edge match was just awesome in itself. Okay now listen. I could care less about Randy Orton. But the reason I didn't mind the length of the match is because the problem to me I think last man standing matches are really really hard to do and in they usually end up relying on some sort of stupid gimmick as to why the guy can't get up at the end whether it just buried in a he gets handcuffed to a thing or or you know. The Rock puts a forklift down on top of mankind. So he can't get up or dump a road case on top of them or something like that. This was a this was a thirty plus minute. Just two older guys beating the shit out of each other with whatever they could get their hands on until one of them just couldn't get up anymore and like that's like that by definition. Is the last man standing match is and it was. It's been so long since we've seen one like that that to me. It was refreshing in am happy. They they they gave edge that kind of time in his first wrestlemainia back in nine years. Ten Years Yes. I think you know I agree to me that was one of the highlights of the of the two nights and I think the one thing that I was super happy to see is that online. Virtually everybody hundred percent of things that I read really enjoyed the bone yard match between taker and styles. And I'm glad to see that because we watched it I was like. This is fucking fabulous. It was awesome. It was produced so well edited so well I was like please. Don't let all these fucking wrestling fan. Boys kill this thing and it seems like everybody sort of bought in like yes. There's inherent cheesiness in it. It's clearly not a match in the in the traditional sense of the word but I thought I was so great so they told a great story. I was reading today. That originally there is no dialogue to be in the thing and all of it happened during the match. All the talking was improvised by taker. Aj which is fantastic. I read the Jeremy Brash. Had A huge role in it and he is the one that. Helps Broken Matt? Hardy do the final deletion stuff with TNA angle. Tell Yeah and I think that that helped. You could feel that influence on it but the difference to me is that you know w w just has better production value than ever had if w is willing to go back to this well again like they can do this really well. I mean undertaker. Really like his gimmick plays into this really well but this is something that I think. I don't think you're GonNa see this kind of thing from w. w. r. especially for undertake. Right I mean this is the best. He's looked in since he lost Goldberg. I restarted since he lost to brock. Leser THIS IS I. Don't you know you have a guy who's very valuable as far as bringing eyeballs the also which is very limited in what he can do? So I don't see why they don't go to this well frankly Every time they bring take back at this point I was re point. John I is Johnny. I agree with you a hundred percent this is. I think this is where the undertaker should exist moving forward. Yeah not bad but I mean this can still be. He can still look strong in in in in believable. As as a fee nom. Yeah he can cut promos in the ring and he can but when it comes to work I think this is where he needs to exist right and not only that but this is this is I think you know. I don't think we'll ever see anything like the fun house again. But this is the kind of realm that you could throw Bray Wyatt into on occasion because obviously brea still young in a good worker. So he'll have regular matches but I think you could certainly and not only that but it opens up like if wwe wants to create more of these characters with quote unquote mystical or dark. Or whatever kind of gimmicks like I could certainly see Alastair black being in something like this you know it opens a whole nother avenue for for the right Gimmick and the right character you know like Matt Hardy and Broken Matt is the right Gimmick. The right character taker is the right. Gimmick right character you know. I think it opens another pathway for for unique things and I think with with the way this was received. There's no way W doesn't go back to this at some point you Remind my brain shut off. Oh I didn't. I wasn't aware that your brain ever started tonight or any night for that matter. Quite quite possibly quite possibly true. I think the big question is based on what you said about the parallel universes. Can we assume that the funhouse exists near or in a Fini-? Oh right so yeah so I guess. That's where the university's crossover right exactly where the weakest is brave. Patrolling of the Phoenix. Bray Wyatt like a randall. Flagg disciple that's what I WANNA know. Where maybe maybe maybe the fiendish like what was the fucking at the end of the Dark Tau Dangelo into low last question. I had on Wrestlemainia for you guys and then we can move on. But how did you guys feel about the two nights you so we kind of talked about this last night so I love the idea of Wrestlemainia weekend right so I I know you disagree but for me like I love knowing? Wrestle mania weakens come in and working all week and no one I got wrestlemainia weakened in front of me. I got the whole fame on Friday night I got an x t takeover which is always a fucking six show on Saturday night and then I got wrestlemainia which takes up most of the day Sunday. So it's literally I'd entire weekend of nothing but wwe so naturally. I like the two nights I missed an x t takeover and I missed the whole of fame not because so much the hall of fame but just because it's it's what I it became like what I was used to for Wrestlemainia weekend. It was it was just a different wrestlemainia weekend. It was still a weekend event. It was just different so I mean I'm usually watching all three nights anyway. So yeah I I thought the two nights was fine. I'd be willing to. I wouldn't necessarily say disagree with that. I mean I think on an enormous year yes I'd prefer to away. It always is but I think there are a lot of people that were crapping on the tonight structure even in this current situation and in this current situation. I thought it was great because it gives us two nights. It gets the majority of the car of the company on the card. Which is I think. Great like if they had done it regular just made it wrestlemainia. Sunday from you know whatever. It is five o'clock to midnight it would have been fine but I liked having both of my nights booked for this tonight like if there can't be a takeover and there can't be a hall of fame. I think this was a great idea. The only bad idea was having stupid broadcast. He hosted. I was GONNA say as a casual fan. You know I I appreciate did. They need to give some of the younger guys. And some of the you know less season guys in the less famous people You know their their moment in the Sun as well but I do think there's an element where you know I think in this specific instance with what's everything is going on. Maybe a good thing that had two nights for the give you two nights of escapism. More broadly I think wrestling has become bloated and I would much rather see leaner card and under the assumption that you're big time superstars are bringing their game to this night so I would much rather see less matches and the matches be big time and the people that are in them actually give a shit and so essentially you'd like to see an xt takeover would this is about the same thing the reason takeovers. Like if you look at the ratings for the last ten takeovers they're all somewhere between eight and ten and they're mostly nine tents and that's because they don't triple h doesn't care that there are sixty people on the next day roster there are five matches in every takeover now. I don't think you can really get away at this point in time with shortening Wrestlemainia to five matches. It will get get rid of. I think you can shorten it to seven or eight I still think wrestlemainia has to be longer. It has to be if you're going to attract all these people from all over the globe and make the huge economic impact on the city and sell out the stadium. It has to be longer than a regular pay per view. I think but I do agree. That in a normal year. It's become too bloated last year when we watch wrestlemainia like we started at five o'clock by nine thirty ten o'clock. I was like Holy Shit and not only put the crowd by the time you get to. The main event is fucking exhausted dead. Yeah yeah so I think if you take it from the ten or eleven as they try to cram into it now down to seven or eight. I would agree with John. I don't think you could take it all the way to takeover length 'cause takeovers are like Holy Shit. It's over you know like I don't think you can go that far but but I agree with the point in general I mean. I'm not trying to shit on anybody here. I actually called the street. Province matches pretty good Alexa. Bliss can get it at any time in my life. I'm happy about that. That being said they don't need to be on this car. They just don't agree on the other side if you know if you're going to have both of the men's title matches the terrible and clearly neither Goldberg Nebraska Interested in being there. Gobert just capable. Then I guess you you need you need those other matches because you actually need some something with the real work rate Becky has no excuse at all. That match was terrible for no reason but You know that I think you're big superstars brock. If you only want to be a once a year you better fucking bring it that once a year and the factually shoplifting Ripley Charlotte re Ripley brought him. They did maybe scratch my head as to why that was not the women the major women's match and I guess new that's why I was on the second night because it kind of was I think I think we we're now seeing. I would say after this weekend. Becky Lynch is now. Maybe the she's the most popular woman. But I would say she's probably third or fourth in terms of Work Right Charlotte Rae Ripley or the most talented women on the roster now And I do think we should mention to like yes. Both world heavyweight title matches were terrible broths Rahman be Gobert in two minutes. Drew MCINTYRE BROCCOLI. Her in four minutes or whatever it was. I think with rocket was niece. He didn't want to be there with Goldberg. I think if Goldberg if Bill Goldberg is capable of wrestling for fifteen minutes. I think he would do it. I think he's just not capable so they made the best of gas now. They can't force brock to bring his a game. But I will say I am glad to discuss the decisions made. I'm looking forward to stroman and McIntyre having the titles and if we can get back to any semblance of normalcy having them have the titles on Ron smackdown. Every week I liked what even if I didn't like how they got there. I liked the results. One hundred percent all right so there you have it a little bit odd You know it was a two nights spectacle because of the situation the world is in I for one. I'm tired of all the bad news. It was nice to spend two nights. Not Worrying about anything so there you have it Wrestlemainia. Thirty six in the books guys. So it's that time of the show again where we go back to the island So episode four Walkabout Bill Written by WHO? Let me give you this specific okay. This is season one episode four original air date. I'm adding that was over thirteenth. Two Thousand Four. Sixteen fucking years ago who I know. The flashback was locked centered as will discover every lock flashback. At least for the first two years is fantastic. This is days four and five on the island okay. The writer of this episode is Buffy Angel. Vet David Fury who John and I met. Who got out director ones again was Jack Bender? so yeah. Those are the those are specifics. Take it away Frankie. So we We in this episode. We finally get to dig into to John Locke we we ended episode three with the very foreboding three sixty creepy music John. Looking very menacing in this episode. We start to figure out a little bit about what's going on with John and John. John is a man with a haunted past to say the least right. I mean he we find out essentially. He was paralyzed from the waist down before the plane crashed. And the flashback. I thought was awesome because like even you know they don't go right for the he's paralyzed and like we talked about before. I think John brought up before. This show is so good at not telling the audience what they need to know. They just let it happen so when I flashback starts and he's in the lunchroom talking to his CO worker and they're playing the game or whatever they never really tell you. You still don't know really. He's paralyze yet. You know he wanted to start to layer on the levels of how much of a loser this guy is like. He's like a TPS report guy. At work he makes he makes us co worker. Column Colonel Like it's you know. He's he's risk at lunch. Yeah and his only real relationship outside of work with a fucking phone sex operator and they they mentioned at work they mentioned Helen. And you think Oh that's must be his wife or his girlfriend then they show him talking the ten minutes later in the episode they show him talking on the phone with Helen. And you find out. She's a phone sex operator. Yeah no for that. And that little seam when Helen hangs up on him and he gets frustrated. He's trying to get her to go walkabout with him and Australia. Which is obviously. If you're trying to get a phone sex operated go on vacation with you. Things have gone awry are but that's the first time he drops the you know. Don't tell me what I can't do and what I loved about. The don't tell me what I can't do thing is like he says it. Why think four different times in the episode and they go from saying it in an extraordinarily pathetic manner to the end where he says? It had an extraordinarily confident matter which I think is really great writing. And it's he's he's this guy who he knows everything about everything right like he just he. He knows how to hunt. He knows how to track. He knows how to do all this shit. And how right right and then you find out. He was paralyzed. And it's like how. How does he know how to do? This stuff is just from reading from watching movies watching documentaries like how does he know how to do all this shit or is he. Is he just a guy who who's actually ever done any of this stuff or just read about in? This is the first time now that he's on the island and all of a sudden it's a miracle he can walk now he can. He can actually do this stuff right and not only that. But he's GonNa you know he's been given this miracle he's not going to take no for answer you know after Michael. Gets hurt trying to hunt before he goes and does it by himself and I. That's what I love when Kate is like we have to go back to the beach. You can't you can't go after it alone. He's don't you tell me what I can't do? Which is fantastic. And you know like the flashbacks are so well done because you know they go through these different scenarios I at work then with the FRONTEX operator and you can. I guess I guess people could have guessed that he was paralyzed. I'M NOT GONNA try to like when I watched this episode the first time way back in two thousand and four. I was completely flabbergasted that he was paralyzed. I never yeah I never I. Totally not till they. They Dali back at the at the very end when he's trying to get on the Australian tour bus and you see the wheelchair. Did I really understand what was happening? There are some some hands. There's like the machine next to his bed. They don't notice when you're for the first time you watch it but the second second or third whatever around you start to notice the the that they did drop some incidentally I had a lot of thoughts about this episode. I think it's probably top five all time lost episode You know I think one of the things as you guys mentioned that you know lock centered. Lock flashback episodes. Tend to be good another commonality I think with all the really stupendous episodes loss is that the flashback portions of the episode are as good or better than the action on the island itself and this is definitely a good example of that. Where even before you know? You know the big reveal that he's handicapped. You know it's it's it's very well done is very interesting The the way that they shoot the flashback in this very the office slash office space sort of the the. There's a different sort of like lens on the camera that makes everything look very washed out. And then you go back the island where we were bright and And exciting so. It's it's a very well directed episode which which I appreciate the other thing I like about it too. Is I think again the first viewing. You're so blown away by this. You know as we alluded to when you're talking about a previously this like the first one of the first major sort of mystical reveals the island. That lock was handicapped. And now he's not and that kind of your reaction to it but on this you know now like my fourth or fifth time having watched it you know it's it's such a powerful episode outside of that in how it informed his character and how it lays the seeds for the fate that he has in the island and the again that dichotomy that we mentioned previously between that. It's going to be between him Jack where he's the man of faith Jackson of science. And why does he have this faith and this is because the island is a miracle for him and it's a I think that faith is what gives them the willpower when he probably does only have book knowledge about how to haunt a bore and yet he's able to go out there and do it because he believes himself and he's able to face down the still not smokey but now machine sound smoke monster because he has faith at this at the island is now giving him and I think you're right to like you know watching the first three episodes as we have just done. You know you kind of get the you know we just we just do that right. You kind of get the idea that something mystical is happening on this island but our and I remember watching it like I remember not being quite sure like some of the stuff could still be explained away if they wanted to but this is the first over fit overt revelation. Where it's like okay. That's magic you know. That's not that can't be explained away by anything except this island is magic so this is really the episode. Where where there's no turning back you know in terms of like okay. This is not just going to be marooned on an island show. There's something else happening here right right in. You know so one of the other things that happens with block in Johnny kind of touched on a little he gets. I mean he doesn't admit it but I think it's pretty clear we're supposed to assume he saw the monster Brett right. He saw it and he knows what it is or at least knows what looks like. What for whatever for whatever reason at the end. He doesn't tell anybody that he got a look at it so I don't know what do you guys think about that. What do you think John You know? I think it's It's it's something of a indicator of things to come with lock The way that He and eventually boone sort of Play Dow the discovery of the hatch later on Locked definitely plays his understanding of the island close to the vest so I think there's an element of sort of foreshadowing Some things to calm as far as You know the way that that lock interacts with the island interacts with the the other oceanic passengers about the island but John. Do you think. Do you think the smoke monster or whatever do you think it. Do you think it showed him something or told him something. I believe it. He actually at some point he says that it does. Kinda showed him the his dark parts of his soul or something like that I can't remember opt to get there on the on the rewatch but I do think that it it did. It definitely showed him something and it definitely reinforced his knowledge that he alone currently has about just how mystical this place is and how different it is and just even more so even more so reinforce for him they'd like this is a place that he needs to be and that he was destined to be there in the same way. He thought he was destined to go on that. Walk about. Yeah and you know our aside from lauck and hunting the boar. We did get some other things you know character things that maybe talk about well. If anybody was wondering I think the black smoke monster showed him German Scott Porn Hoof cleanest. There's plenty of that out there. It is exactly theory on the loss boards as well. We do finally get introduced to rose in this episode. Who despite you know not being a main character? She's a character that is with the show for quite a long time. Yeah and she's another one where you know it's not quite the man of faith verse the Man of science that Lakhan Jacquard. But you get a little. You get a little tease of Jack's reaction no people of faith. 'cause you know rose shots. Jacqueline you know. He assumes she's sitting by yourself 'cause she's mourning for her husband and she says Oh. My husband's not dead and he said you know the tail sections gone all those people are gone. And she says they're probably thinking the same thing about us and Lo and behold she's GonNa eventually be proven right The other key thing about that scene is that at the very end of that when he finally gets her to stand up and come back. This is the first time Jack sees the strange older man in the suit. All that's right fucking forgot about that. Yeah Jack Jack Has I while. I'm sure he thinks it's a hallucination whether it is or not we still have to find out but I thought that was another interesting scene. I like that seen a lot. You does he think it's a hallucination because he chases after it well I mean you know I guess you know. We're not really worrying about spoilers here like He. It's his dad so so he chases after as I think anyone would if they randomly saw their dad on I would I would probably be same thing even if I was complete. Manno of Science. I'd be like what the fuck you doing over here but that was another one another scene where I remember watching it the first time being like what the off fuck is going on. Yeah but I did. His reaction is so awesome. When you see like what the fuck going back to rose though that was also the kind of that that sort of be plot was the kind of thing. I probably have very little patience for when I was watching the show and I was just much more interested in getting back to what was going on. Lock at the time but I did think it did it on the free while on this rewatch. I appreciate it. I thought it was. You know one thing I thought was a good kind of counterbalance too much work faster. Pace lock storyline but I also thought it was a you know. It's a good character. Be for Jack Episode. Were probably the first episode. We really doesn't have that much to do and You know I thought you know totally I thought it worked There's like a weird lock at a lot of this to a weird sort of Zen Buddhist elements to this entire show that runs around and I thought they sort of like the two of them just sitting there looking at the ocean and thinking about the everything that's gone on and taking that be. Was you know now looking at it. I thought I thought was very smart. Storytelling even though gunslinger at the end of the gunslinger. Yeah exactly dark. Our podcast right. But I think I think even more you know. We got a lot of great specifics on Kate in the third episode. And you know we got some good stuff about Jack in the second episode but like Johnson Really. This is the first you know real. I thought real they did a great job. And maybe it's you know it's the writing in the direction and everything but you really start to get who. This guy is that he's going to be important in you know in in whatever happens here so. I mean it's it's worthy of being up there as a top five but maybe at least top ten episode of the show. I think it Sir I I. I feel like it's been a lot of the top lost episode of All Time Lists and I'm not sure just because as an early episode. It really packed such a punch but I think even you know even knowing what's going on down the line I think it's I think it's just everything about it the way it's written in the way it's directed the acting and the the story tells. I think is a very powerful and I think it's deserves to be up there personally. Yeah I mean I. I can't argue with it. Some Trivia regard for this episode Dominic Monaghan Lord of the Rings Tattoo can clearly be seen. When he's being cleaned up by Jack which is pretty cool. I didn't see that yeah The names of some of the dead passengers mentioned by Clare during the ceremony could be heard. Judah wechsler Stephen Kristen Harold Walstein and Milton Lewis Destino. Who'LL TRIGGER WORKER? Randy Confronts Locke about the TPS reports lock returns to work using his adding machine as the receipt prints. The clicking sound of the boxer can be heard which is pretty cool. This makes what this makes sense. As according to the producers podcast monster sound was taken from a taxi receipt printer New York taxi. How crazy the smoke. Monster's down. Yeah well part of it like when he's when you hear the clicking yeah yeah Cool in the flashback. Lock has electro-medical nerve stimulation machine by his bed. With John mentioned. It's an electrical device from us for stimulating motor nerves for the purpose of providing muscle reeducation. So that that's the machine. John was a alluding to earlier fans and then like John also saying sort of as you know fans often mark this episode at the point in which most people get hooked by the show. It's usually called the walkabout effect a lover. Yeah this is the first episode are the are the original name of this episode Lord of the Lord of the flies just pretty funny And then in the two scenes that He appears in Christian Shepherd. Which is Jack? Sheppard's dad is played by actor. John Kerry who will portray him in all subsequent episodes yeah. I didn't think that was him as. Yeah that's interesting and that is actually the first episode where Claire is named by name which is also interesting really. Wow just first time you find out that that the pregnant woman is named Clair. Oh I didn't Yeah some fun Trivia. Well thanks for that Bill. You know problem I'm here for here for everybody's entertainment All right guys well as we head into another week of isolation hope Mothra what with her Adam Sandler Canteen Board. No no no. You're thinking of key Cajun man masturbation L- what would you say we're doing right now? Cage isolation all So hope this sixty minutes gives you some sort of escape and joy as you're sitting in your house working from home or doing whatever you're doing working out in the yard taking a walk but I'm we'll be back again later this week with our good friend Dr Tony Ortega and yeah. He's a lot to say about cancel. Culture he's got a Latin culture. He you know going. Back to the conversation we've had the last couple episodes. Tony is an independent comic writer. Creator of sure. He'll have a lot to say about what this is going to do. A comic business also from shortly from from a non pop culture point of view. Tony Lives in New York City. He's in the belly of the beast. It'll be interesting interesting to get his thoughts on what it's like right now. Living in sort of the American epicenter of this virus and all that and of course. We'll go back to the island for episode five so with that. I'll say mas- Johnny thanks for hanging out. You got a brother the U. L. 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Drew McIntyre Wins Royal Rumble & Edge Returns After 9 Years

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Drew McIntyre Wins Royal Rumble & Edge Returns After 9 Years

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series. Xm streaming subscribers SIRIUSXM. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius sex him nation Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open. podcast this is Dave Greco. Today's episode. WWe You w e Hall of Famer Bully Ray and I talk all about the two thousand twenty royal rumble and what a royal rumble. It was the man's royal rumble match. Drew McIntyre has now punched his ticket to wrestlemainia thirty. Six we got the return of a hall of Famer Edge which was an amazing in Charlotte flair winning the women's Royal Rumble and then an MVP performance from Bianca. Bel Air and another hall of Famer and Beth Phoenix and also we get into what I feel was the best Bray Wyatt match ever. That's right the fiend your universal champion in a strap match with Daniel Bryan. I of that right now on the busted open podcast. It's now time for drew. McIntyre gotta give a mini assist to Roman reigns help and drew get over last night because when it came down to drew and Roman. You almost almost heard a collective in the arena because they thought Roman was going to go over again and even I said to myself please. Don't don't Romans been doing so well being far away from the championship. He doesn't need it. Please do not put him over. I could almost like in my my mind. That could have picture vince. Gone well damnit. We've kept away long enough Now's the time let's do it. True will be fine. Let's put Roman over but I'm glad glad they did it. They made the right call last night and drew going over. It was a monster victory. I do want to get back into drew eliminating dating brock. Because Dave it was absolutely masterful and I went on social media this morning and I said that brock was the MVP of last night right. And I truly believe it because if you take brock listener out of the equation of that royal rumble you're left with just a normal royal rumble. That's really no different than any other rumble. We've seen we've got a bunch. We get twenty seven entrance. We got a couple of surprises. A monster supplies like edge. I WANNA get into edges surprise also a little later on the show. What an awesome moment? If you if you're a wrestler working today and you WanNa know if you're over or not go back and listen to pop that'll tell you everything you need to know about whether you're over or not this is. That's the kind of pop that I'm always talking thing about on the show. Dave where you hear the music and simultaneously people leave their seats and scream at the top of their lungs. And that's what used to happen happened on a weekly basis for a lot of superstars so the you know the pop off at the entrance music tells you everything you need to know. What a great return by edge back back to the bronx stuff? Tell me what you saw dave. One brock listener eliminate was eliminated by drew McIntyre. I saw first first of all you have to go with the story that was told with ricochet we were talking about. What happened with ricocheting kicks to the Groin? Area and and Obviously Ricochet was able to get brought back with getting him right with that nut. Shot that definitely. That definitely paralyzed is brock momentarily. And then you get the elimination from Jim Mcintyre and then you see the sales job by brock listener outside that ring I I get the shock and surprise that he was eliminated the disbelief the disbelief. By and then you see the staredown between Brock and drew McIntyre that gave you chills. I mean you couldn't set up a match for Wrestlemainia better than just that few seconds between drew and brock outside outside that ring. Here's why brock listener is the MVP and got drew McIntyre to the moon after ricochet kicks brock and the nuts. You see brock imposition. Brock takes that Claymore as perfectly as I've ever seen anybody take it no hands up that's first of all. Where did the bottom of drew McIntyre's boot hit? Brock listener the face square square in the forehead. Exactly where the finish is designed to hit so we see perfect connection with the move. Brock is saying to to himself. I'm taking this finish as clean as cleaned and be so when they go back and replay on the road to Wrestlemainia. It looks legit Shit. If I'M GONNA get eliminated. I'm getting eliminated as legitimately as possible. Boom takes to kick to claim more to the head. Then the bumpy takes over. The top rope is phenomenal because he selling he's registering the legitimacy of the kick that kick is so good that it can take the peace office feet Tattoo. Pulse him over the top rope and to the floor then he lays there dead not moving. How often do we see the beast dead and not moving never never the look of shock and awe? Aw on Hayman's face brock laying out there like he's making snow angels in Houston Heyman looking down and disbelief. Drew looking over the top rope down at Brock. Click there's your snapshot there's your moment there's there's the moment that they will replay every single week. On the road to Wrestlemania Brock is selling selling and and selling some more and just when you thought Brock lesser had done enough selling. He starts to stagger up and sells also more people channing. Ha You know hey hey goodbye. Brock staggers and stumbles to the back. That whole scenario scenario took about three minutes but in that three minutes brock listener got drew McIntyre over moreover than anybody else has gotten drew McIntyre over in his entire career and that alone is why nobody can talk shit about Brock Leser and we. You just heard Corey graves. Talk about drew McIntyre and say it's about Damn Time Corey graves also said something about brock listener that rings so true and listen. Nobody complained. Nobody is bitch more than I did with brock last time when he was champion and how we hardly defended the title. This is why they have brock listener atop was for the scenario that we saw played last night and Corey Graves said it perfectly. It doesn't matter how how many times he defended the title. It doesn't matter how many times we see him on TV. Look with Brock. Listener gives us and he gave it to us in droves last last night nobody else on the roster could do like Brockton just like ten years ago nobody can do on the roster. John Seen did only certain wrestlers wrestlers at certain. Times can give you that big match feel and right now that guy's brock lesser and you're right. He did more than just. Make drew McIntyre entire. He may eighth Keith Way. He gave you moments that we're going to look back on for decades and that claim work you couldn't have said it better. No hands adds up directly square in the face over the top rope being eliminated snapshot. There's moment there's your picture there's drew McIntyre's ticket to wrestlemainia thirty six. It's completely it's factually true. And the psychology of the beginning of the match. Dave if you remember last week when we talked about brock entering I I I kind of tried to explain to you when you have a certain talent talent who is so over and he'll who is so hated now. Brock isn't so hated. It's just that people WANNA see Brockett. His ass kicked or get eliminated donated. Every single person that came to that ring. Meant something every person that came to that ring with her as the first six seven eight entrance you want want to see them do something to brock and just when you got your hopes up even just a tiny tiny bit bang they were gone and then they start to tell all the small story you see you see Biggie and Kofi and who was it. There was one more person ganging up on Brock. Oh it was right. Yeah Yeah because he hit the day did they all hit their finishers. There you go so you got ray who has an issue with brock and Kofi who has an issue with Brock and obviously big. He's GonNa have the issue with brock because the coffee and now all of a sudden you think Oh my God. They're building up to three way with a three way. Three of them are going to eliminate brock and brock ripston ripston carpet. Right out from underneath you. It's a good old fashioned heat spot and wrestling Wham when you've gotten to the highest of the high the the he'll pulls the rung out from under you and you're at the lowest of the low. You're like wait a minute. We were just kicking his ass. How did all three get eliminated? Takes away and the booze keep going up and up and up and there's and then and then here comes Shelton and now that's Brock's best friend what's GONNA Happen here don get out here see by you mean nothing to me too by the way. How great because in between the Zarre bizarre was hitting those uppercuts? And you're like wait a second doc. And then like you said Brock just turns it around disposes of Cesar pretty quickly. But what a great story with Shelton Benjamin because great job by the commentators. There's as well telling about the history between Shelton and brock listener and it was masterfully played and they're hugging each other. And then you're like all right Brock's going to turn and he didn't they hug again brock and then they hug again and then brock turns on him and disposes them over the top rope again. A great story and as you said the booze. Just get louder. So they're building and they're building and they're building and what were they building for. who were they building? Four drew McIntyre no keithly true they were building for Keithly keithly and here comes keithly. And what are the people doing. Well I mean everybody was on their feet emotionally emotionally invested in that moment. The moment that you've been preaching here for weeks that you wanted to say and I was wrong. I said man. Dan keithly needs to win it or Keith. Ni keithly needs to eliminate brock. And you always said no no all you need. Is that stare down and you probably needed is a little bit more. You needed Kief to knock off his feet. But that's all you needed to do to create a superstar and they created a superstar in keithly people who don't Watch T. 'cause there's only two seven hundred thousand fans that watch all those people who watched a rumble last night now now know who keithly is and that was the business of the moment build up the front end of the match for Keith Elise entrance buildup keithly and brock face to face build up for Keith. Lee Knocking Brock off his feet to you. Know how credible keithly it becomes knocking rock. Lesin Ruffy he takes that back to entertain him. All that stiffly stock went up last night. Did keithly go over in the royal rumble. Now he didn't keithly get over in the royal rumble one hundred percent mission mission accomplished. And that's it folks people who were bitching and moaning about keithly And then I had some people telling me no. It was keithly and drew McIntyre they got themselves over morons. Nobody gets themself over. You need somebody to do it for you. Take brock listener out of the equation and nobody gets over in that match last night. Brock is the date is directly responsible for making keithly last night and making being drew McIntyre. Michael you're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM fight nation in a one fifty sticks or on-demand with the Sirius Xm APP. There was still an amazing surprise and a shock when we saw Ed's last night at the royal rumble symbol. Obviously on a personal level. I could not have been happier for one of my brothers On a professional level boom. That's how it's done. That's a pop. That's a return. That's when you know every single person in that arena loves you. You have complete total and utter emotional emotional investment. I always tell people when they ask for advice. What should I do get over which I do? You hit it over. I don't know just get over edge in his career dot over. Is anybody coming close to pops like that in the wwe me right now. No not right now I mean comparable was what we saw at the end of the night but other than that as far as entrance into the rumble. No nobody came close to get in the pop like edge. Got and that's what you that's what you strive for those type of reactions every single time. Obviously it's a big surprise and coming coming back so the pop is going to be that much bigger but that is what it sounds like Dave. We came back with the audio of veges entrance. And you hear the sound happens at the same time and you only get that type of sound when forty thousand people or twenty five however many people it is all scream and pop at the same time. It's like a wave and I gotta tell you man. Uh I've experienced it myself and it takes you out of your game. It's so overwhelming to hear that. And he got double the amount of people that I got to get in Philly. There was twenty thousand. He got forty thousand lands that wall of sound from pop hop hits you and no matter how psychologically sound you are and calm you are about going to that ring when that pop hit you in the face you know. It's almost tunnel vision. You don't even know where you are. You can't grab a hold yourself because you're adrenaline rushes so hard. I bet you if we get to talk to him you know maybe this week or next week at ever he'll tell you that the the rush of energy that comes over you you almost forget going to the ring. You're on complete auto pilot pilot in that ring because you're so overwhelmed with emotion good emotion however I know they missed the first couple of the first spear there's some video out there on on social media comes in spear spear does a little stuff to drew boom spears drew off to a hell of a start I thought it was a great rumble French. You know. That's interesting because you're bringing up your experience when he came back in Philly at the rumble and I'm sure you expected big reaction no doubt but it really does take you off your game Like you even expect a big reaction. It's still kind of like I guess for a second humbles. You is the best way to describe it. I don't know I don't know if it humbles. You know what it did to me. It's scared me. Wow you know why it scared me because when I when I went out there and I got hit by that wall of sound I legitimately said Fuck. I can't remember anything. Wow it it knocks you on. It's like getting punched in the face and you're out on your feet. That's what it felt like to me and it's an amazing feeling feeling the rush is like I don't even know. I guess it's euphoric but like I said it also scared me because Dave we talked on the we've talked so many times about blowing up in the ring right you could either blow up physically because you're not in ring shape in your lungs can handle it breath in like a whale Tommy Dreamer joke or you can blow up mentally and mentally blowing up is the worst because you instantly black out and that wall of sound that hit me man. I instantly blacked out. I was blown up before I even got to the ring. I can't even remember what I did. In the rumble match. I have to go back and watch chit so like. I can't even imagine what those forty thousand people sounded like where it felt like for edge and I'd love I'd love to get him on the show just to ask ask them that question. What did that wall of sound feel like now? It might have been a little different because it an open air arena. When and I don't know if they had the dome open now is as far as I know is open so what happens is the sound travels up so it might not have hit him the same way to hit me anyway? Insane insane pop great showing for edge. He was one of my picks to possibly win it. But I'm glad that they went withdrew and not edge definitely a great eight moment. Let's discuss it with the busted open. Let's go out to will in Fort Worth will. Would you WANNA say about. Brock and drew McIntyre Listen Brock. It's a Lotta lot of shit for. Oh He's not around a lot and he doesn't sell for people all he does is suplex people. Listen when he wants to sell them put someone over He. Does it almost better than anyone. His Daniel Bryan match his. Aj Styles match now this when he wants to he can really put someone over. And it's about time. We've been waiting for drew McIntyre to get on the scene for what since two thousand nine when he was christened the one and now they're finally doing what's it's right this is storytelling at its best. I wish wwe can do this on a consistent basis. I don't know why they can't but Kudos to them. They they got it right. This is why like wrestling. There's wide wrestling fan. Well that's a great call and I think that's why we're all wrestling fans and it also. That was a wonderful night for the. WWe Hard to complain about some of the things that happened last night in that rumble. Very interesting choice of words By well who just called in he said when brock wants to brock wanting to wanting to make it personal. It's as if brock says. Oh you know this guys WanNa my chosen ones so I want to sell for him. That makes it a little selfish instead of want to I will substitute means something brock cells when it means something something when Brock knows that it's good for business if brock those that something is going to do good business. That's when the time is right. He we've seen him do great business with Daniel Bryan with Ramos Stereo with just about everybody last night. He did off the chart business because he knows that claim more that eliminated him from the rumble. Means something it means dollar signs minds to the potential drew versus Brock match at Wrestlemania. Yeah and I think what we're going to see happen at this year's Wrestlemania is going to be completely different than what we saw. At last year's Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia started at Seth rollins and brock listener and Seth Rollins Beep Rock Lester won the championship. AMP chip and everybody was excited. But didn't really do anything for Seth. I think it was more about that. People want the debt title off Brock than actually on. Seth and I think the proof is in the pudding shooting. We're here. We are a year later and Seth rollins comes out at thirty and you can hear a pin drop. I don't think that's going to be the case for Jim. McIntyre Dave as of right now do you WANNA see. Drew McIntyre win the championship or Broccoli lose the championship. You WanNa see. Drew McIntyre win the championship. Yes you do last year we just wanted to see it off of brock this year. We want to see drew win. And that's emotional title control. The baby faces more loved than the he'll is hated and last year the he'll was hated more than the baby. Face was loved if you don't know Sirius Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollar just go to Sirius Xm dot com slash busted to offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new siriusxm streaming subscribers Sirius xm no car required. Did you like the the way. Charlotte eliminated Shayna. But first of all I like to show of strength just how strong Charlotte flare is when she was holding that top rope. nope I don't know I wasn't in love with it. They might occur. Did done something a little bit better. But I didn't mind it and I think the right right woman one. I'll agree with the right WIMP woman winning. I felt it made Shayna look just a tiny bit corny Oranje because she was tangled up with with Charlotte in the ropes. Then she moves away then. She goes back and Charlotte's able to flip over. I wish they would've done it in a different way. And I don't know if they were trying to protect Shayna without Charlotte. Hard eliminating her allergist tossing in her over the top rope. I think they wanted to make make it look like a desperation final attempt by Charlotte and Shane just got caught so to speak. And then you know the look on his face when it was all over I just felt like Charlotte was hanging there a little too long. Like if I'm Shayna I'm if I'M GONNA I'm just GONNA walk over to Charlotte and I'm GonNa kick her in the hands or I'm going to try to pry her fingers offer or something like that. Now that's what they might have done. I don't remember the exact little thing that happened but Charlotte flipping over. And then you know. Shane is a shoot fighter. You Know Yeah Yeah. I probably would have done the elimination a little bit differently. I thought it just I. I know they were trying to protect after I just don't think he protected her in the right way nonetheless agreed right woman went over. Shayna should not have won the royal rumble. Everybody who's out there on social media. That wasn't the time or the place for her to win. Good showing by her thought thought the elimination could have been thought. Thought out a little bit better and I know people are nervous about Charlotte for the reason that right now. They're looking at Charlotte and they're looking at Becky and are saying we've been down this road a million times. Maybe there's a little fear that Ron is going to get back involved. Then you're gonNA see a rematch of what we saw last year. I looked at it this 'cause I actually thought OSCO was going to be becky because I would not have minded see in Charlotte and Oscar again resume now people say. Hey We've already seen in that but don't forget that was probably the best match at Wrestlemania. Thirty four was the match between Oscar in Charlotte win of Vine. Seeing that again and again we have a lot of time between now and Wrestlemainia thirty six. A lot can change. Doesn't necessarily mean we're going down. I'm the same road that we went down before though it kind of looks that way right now and I'm more than willing to sit back and see how this all plays out with the women's division. WHO's going to end up in the main event women's matches for mania? I don't have a problem with Charlotte flare going over at all to tremendous of an athlete and a great wrestler to think that. That's not a good move to go now. That being said she may have have been the winner but I think the MVP from last night's rumble. Match was Beth Phoenix I love what Beth Phoenix than did in rang. You talked about. I'm trying to pry those fingers. She was doing with actually biting on the fingers to try to eliminate her and then she gets busted open in the back of the head early and you just saw little by little her whole head of hair turn red one hell of performance by Beth Phoenix last night. You know I put out on social media that Charlotte went over but Bianca and Shane dot over. A A bunch of people tweeted me and Beth Phoenix. She got over to Beth. Phoenix doesn't have to go over and Beth Phoenix doesn't have to get over to you. Know why Dave she's a hall of Famer and that means he's already over end end of story. She's in the hall of fame tremendous showing last night warrior out there like we we were. You actually guys texted me. And you're like is somebody bleeding. Whatever for second there was so much blood in Beth Phoenix's hair that I tweeted? I texted you guys back and I'm like wait that she dyed her hair red that I'd miss something. She there must have been some Nice Gash that open in her head for that much blood to who have come out she. She trucked right on through honestly. I think of a referee would have tried to get out of there. She would have just decked the referee not stopping me. I mean the rumble. I'm in for a while. It's not like I'm here for a cup of coffee. I'm here to mean something. GET OUTTA my way. I mean Richard Warrior. It's amazing for somebody who's already in the hall of fame. Who's WHO's like a surprise entrance supposed to be like a feel good moment? Having Beth Phoenix out there may have been one of the best moments of her career coming after in fact she's already inducted into all she's won championships. Believe me. She has done amazing things in the ring. But when I think of Beth Phoenix moving forward. I'm going to think of that time. I'm that she had in the ring. Busted Open just just plowing through knowing that she's not even GonNa be at the end of Victor because she there is no way she was GonNa win. That and no one was expecting her to win that her career is over. She was in there as as as just a surprise moment at the rumble and to do what she did in just somebody that was just being used for a quote unquote feel good moment at the royal rumble. Amazing Performance Mormons. Bhai Beth Phoenix. She is definitely worthy of being called the hall of Famer and she's there to help other people get over. Yes and that's exactly what she did. That was her job last night. That's what she got paid for mission accomplished. And you're right as far as who with when it comes to Bianca Bianca. Belair Shayna Baiser. They're both in much better spots than they were this time yesterday because of their performances last night Bianca Belair to me stood out above. Everybody else I don't even care that Charlotte went over to me the MVP of that women's match was Bianca Belair. She had the best showing doing last night. I'd rather be Bianca Bel Air today than Charter Fair because I got over and now you're gonNA. She's going to tell you if anybody has keithly everybody with the upside annex t I could probably make an argument for Bianca Bel Air having more upside right this very moment than anybody else in annex t yes I mean even over your annex t champion Rea- Ripley correct because I look at Bianca Bel Air and we talked about Rio rippling. This is not a disrespect to Rio Ripley. I feel in some factions. She's is not quite there yet. We saw her on the microphone and she seemed a little loss. Bianca bellairs. The is the real deal. I mean you're talking about the total package. That's Bianca Belair. She is a superstar. She has superstar written all over. And I'm glad that she had that moment last night to show the world how good she really is. And when we talk about rea- Ripley Ripley and say you know. She's kind of lacking on the MIC. A little bit. That little bit means a whole lot. Because if you're not good on on the stick you're never going to survive at the top of the food chain for for your entire career. You have to be able to talk you have after so. That's where we need to improve so I mean Bianca to me right now. Listen if I if I were to sit down and put her entire act under a microscope. I'm sure I could find you things that she needs to work on but right now just looking at it from surface value I believe Bianca. Belair Blair has the biggest upside in annexed. Now she has a match. What rea- Ripley for two for the NFC championship at the next takeover? I'm wondering if Vince McMahon man was watching that rumble last night and by it was probably say my God I can do what Bianca Bel Air on Monday night raw. I believe that Ah Bianca Belair has definitely caught. The eye of Vince McMahon and it if for nothing else it's her entrance. Vince is a mark for entrances. Like that that larger than life kind of entrance like watching her skip to the ring with that look on her face and those big hoop earrings and her swinging her hair. That's it she's a star because because she's making you pay attention to her the minute she comes out she he has grabbed you by the jugular. The minute you come out she commands your attention the minute she comes out that's star and she has that that new are you are your interest you are into Bianca Belair before she ever does anything. Physical agreed to the point where a lot of people people sleep on. How good she is just because they think she's all show and she showed last night she's more than just that man? She really is the total package. And that natural rea- Ripley is going to be interesting. Because did they put the championship. I'm Bianca Bel Air or do we see the next night. Her moving to either roar smackdown Mac down because man. I'm telling you right now. They're my vince. McMahon might be thinking about that decision as we speak never know. Oh but I don't Wanna see but like I said I've said this before I don't WanNa see too. Many people get yanked annexed because you could definitely get lost in the shuffle angry. I but I don't think Bianca Cabal airs. Somebody that could get lost in the shuffle. Becky almost got lost in the shuffle. True but I think Bianca Belair has more of the IT factor than even Becky Lynn Chat on an xt. Oh all all they come I could hear the tweets from rolling in right now to you. Wow all those. Becky fans are about to assassinate you on Social Media Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday. Hey from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. XM Fight Nation Channel One fifty six four on demand with the series. XM APP man. One Hell of a match between the fiend Bray Y and Daniel Bryan. I think it shows how good Daniel Bryan is and I think that was the Bray Wyatt match. As far is his like Solo matches the match of his career in the wwe good chemistry between the both of them enjoyed the match. The strap stipulation collation every once in a while and put a bit of a hindrance on guys like that who can do so much it. Didn't I enjoyed it and to everybody who thought that the fiends powers would be taken away by the lack of the red light. You're wrong but I did like it. Better without the red light on. Even though I was a big proponent for the red light earlier in the beginning because I thought he needed that different feel but I I will be the first to admit I did not take the red light and I'm glad they didn't have it on last night. Yeah The red light really. Didn't bother me like a bothered other people but I do agree that it's so much better by not having that red light. It's not distracting at all and honestly with that Red Light. You wouldn't have seen the beating that Daniel Bryan took. It is back in his arms. That's you know just looking Ed out and really hearing how hard hitting that was. That would have been totally lost if they had the red light to anybody out there who thinks pro wrestling sleep is fake. Go back and watch Bray Wyatt whipping Daniel Bryan with that leather strap and then fake yourself. His back his arms his elbows Daniel Bryan Ryan took a beating and again I you know with the fiend and when you have a over the top personality and character like that. It's kind of tough but man I thought they played well and and the strap like you said usually that could be a hindrance. It wasn't it added to the match. and honestly you really don't see brutal all matches like that in the WWF. You know I mean we always complained about the hell in a cell matches in the cage matches where it doesn't really get that brutal. That was a brutal Matt. Hard hitting brutal matchup between those two last night and like you said nothing fake about that. Listen if you go back and you watch strap matches from the past. They always are brutal and they have to be because the whole gang of the matches that strap coming into play and I liked liked the way they built up the psychology because when January. Brian had that cross face are what does he call it the Lebel Yup when he had the Lebel Abell lock on the fiend with the leather strap in the fiends mouth people were buying in. They thought that might have been it. They rolled out they got out of. It was good way like I said the only thing I would have done differently in that match is takeout Daniel Bryan whipping Bray Wyatt and Bray Wyatt. No selling those Those strap shots because what they did in the Becky match right after and let me tell you this you can go into a match like that and you know tell the tell the other guy. Hey laid in brother. Don't worry about it. Getting hit with a chair is one thing getting hit with a Kendo stick. Dick one thing that strap once you get hit with it like three times it puts you in a really bad mood. It's a different kind of pain like I've been whacked with a chair a hundred times and you could suck that pain up. I get hit with a Kendo stick. I could sucked sucked pain up. I get hit with just about anything when you get that. Strap it you it almost. It's a different kind of reaction you it's almost like I. I wouldn't be surprised. If if one of them stiffed each other with a punch in the face because you're so reactionaries. Like damn that puppets things that strap man and it it hurts. It really does especially when you get whipped in the same spot like two or three times Italian man. It don't tickle. It's a different kind of pain than chair shots in Kendo shot. You're going through tables. It's more of A. It's almost like an annoying pain that rips rips through you and it makes you want to react in a different way and this is one of those times who is a wrestling fan. And I was a little afraid that this match was gonNA get lost in the shuffle shuffle because of all the big moments that we saw last night. That's why I wanted to give it some time to talk about it today because it deserves it because it was a great match and I'll get back into the Fienberg wide and the second. Let's talk about the annual. Brian and I actually had this discussion with Alex. Mets before the show and I had this discussion with Mark Henry weeks and weeks ago when it came to Daniel Bryan man and joy him every time. He's in the ring because there was a time bully that we thought that we weren't going to see him in the wwe ring again and now here we are seeing him in a strap match. Getting just brutalized strapped bleeding welts on his back on his elbows elbows on the back of his arms. Daniel Bryan man when we talk about some of the greats of all time. You're going to have to throw Daniel Bryan's name out out there. This guy's a first ballot whole famer when he decides to hang it up at the end of the day and he gets overlooked and he shouldn't man he is definitely wanted to grades and we really honestly sit celebrate every time is in the ring because he is one of those guys that gives you a thousand percent each time he steps through those ropes in that first power bomb that Bray White Cave Daniel Bryan. That referee was a little nervous. He checked on Daniel Daniel Bryan real quick that was that power was snug. It was tight it was there and just something like that with a guy like Dante. Well not like Danny with anybody who's prone to a head injury to a concussion once you've had one you'll always be susceptible table trust me. I even like Winston like say Ooh out loud just because it was tight it was. They're glad glad. I got Daniel Bryan fricking as a warrior. I mean if you go back and you watch his ring of honor matches like the just. The stiff fasts that he used to have against everybody else. Cering of honor I mean brother lay his shit in and take it back. So yeah your job. Both guys and the fiend Bray Wyatt and and Bray Wyatt is somebody nobody. I've always liked but I never really thought he had that match that match ragged say man. That was great. Awesome moments matches as far as the Wyatt family's concern. Turn him on his own. I never really saw that. Wow match from Bray Wyatt. Last night for me was his well match and the best of his his career does that match last night. Kind of wash away. The bad taste that cage match seth with the referee stopping the match and that whole bullcrap that they gotta go through. If last night was a flop like we saw what Seth rollins than you and I would be talking today about. Maybe they should consider doing something. Something a little bit different with the fiend and Bray Wyatt. And let's let's make sure we preface it with the flop of a match with Seth rollins and Bray. Wyatt had nothing to do with Seth Rollins Abrasive. No it didn't do the right college. That was dictated to them and the story that the company wanted told and how it did not go the right way and did not come off the right way to fans so much show that the wwe had to do damage control. Yes and and and thinking that maybe this personality in this character was more of for distraction than what it should be and I think we we we set it. The Red Light being gone was definitely a big help. But now I'm back into Bray. Why because some of the talk walk not only on this show but on social media was you know? Maybe we're getting a little long in the tooth with the with the fiend character. I feel completely Louis Different about that character. After the match last night you needed that match last night to rejuvenate that personality and character in the fiend. What he's able to do with the fiend vignettes and all the characters bat stage in the you know the personalities it's so so much depth to it and then you get to the ran his entrance and then you get to the ring and when the bell rings it's just a wrestling match again? So how do we keep the fiend and as the wrestler as intriguing as the fiend the character the persona. It's not easy because when the lights are on and the bell rings okay. Okay Russell and I think braise doing a great job especially last night performing as the fiend and seeing that vicious side to him so you know what to and this is where you gotta give Kudos and this is why it's important commentating like Jerry lawler to me you know can be a little over the top and I've seen that in some of the compensating with somebody matches and I don't think the commentating dating worked with that match. It did last night like I really do. Believe that when you get the right commentators calling that matchup up it helps that this is where commentators really can help you buy into the story. Help you buy into a character and help you buy into a personality. I I saw some people on social media wonder. Why the referee didn't show as much concern for Daniel Bryan when he had the mandible claw on on him and he appeared to be out as the referee did for Becky Lynch and he thoughts on that? It's perfect storm. I think you're right. I think it's The red light being gone. The referee not being over the top and concerned like he was in the mattress. Seth Ron's lesson learned and the commentators buying more into what the matches and then. The supernatural supernatural character. That's defeat it takes a perfect marriage of all those things to make a match work and I really do think that was well. Played last night with Daniel Neil Bryan and Bray Wyatt job. Yeah really really good job. Let's go back out to the busted. Open let's out the Darien in. Houston Darren tell us about the rumble. The last night man you were there yeah man. The rumble was awesome. Uh I would say the edge. Pop was amazing. I've never been a pardon stuff so loud. And Darien I think too and this is what's great about it as well bullying. Is that in a way. We kind of experience. There was a lot of rumors about edge. But when you saw it's come out you got lost in the moment and all those conversations from before that moment you completely really forgot you get caught up in the moment and that's what's great about pro wrestling as soon as you heard You think you know me. The crowd went crazy. No matter what you you know they could have told us he is coming. And I think it's still would have been that loud so it was awesome being a part of that energy. Same Branca's go through everybody. It was crazy easy. And let me ask you this because you are there in the crowd. was that crowd up from the start of that show to the end of that show like you know. was there that energy the entire night for sure. I think the only time we sat down really was our legs. Were getting tired not because we were bored. You know sucks out all the energy cheer in top of your lungs. Spur five six hours so it was worth it. I got the La- Greg ahead snuck in during the pre show. It was a great weekend. Oh wait a second. You're the one the Liberec ahead. Yes Sir all right. I saw it in the pre show and Diane tell me if I'm wrong. I spotted as well during the falls. Count anywhere we're a match with Corbin. Thought may cow man. I got my eye out for that. Darian Kudos to you. My friend much appreciate it. And I highly suggest maybe don't do your power rankings anymore. They sound bad for your health. C. IS GONNA get your only going to get you know know. Aw Barre now. Don't you in the back of the head with a shovel and buried. See this is the difference between you and me you being a bad guy me being a good guy because Darien was not saying it as a crossword about my power rankings DARRIEN. Tell me if I'm wrong. You actually set it because you know how upset and passionate I am about it and now I could have a heart attack and how bullying fights me on it. It's more about a concern for me physically the power. Explain that the bully much agree. I think bullying is always going to get you at any point. So even if it wasn't for the power rankings he'd find an excuse you know what Darian thank you see. Darien gets it right because again if I had box Lee at five you you a bitch about that. And so with the nation urinate you'd better you Martin's I didn't say put Moxie at five. Alex did yes I did. He's right said put Keith lead five. Yeah but you didn't and say that until after the break so what you know what does in a what bully you said when I gave my power rankings. You actually said you know what not GonNa kill you this week on it. It's good but you couldn't help yourself. You could not help yourself instead. You said it's a feel good day great weekend of wrestling. You know what I'm going to give you a moment I'm not gonNa give you shit. But what do we do. We take a break we take a little bit of breathing and then you come right. You can't help yourself so you despise honestly don't like me I think it's a parent honestly. I wanted Alex to have his moment today because I knew he was so Viet mealy against sure number five and then once he did. I just felt like dog pile and on also why not kick you when you're down. It's what I'm good at. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. I'm combusted open from nine A._M.. To noon eastern on Sirius X._M. by nation chant 156 busted open podcast.

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The Rack 09-19-19

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The Rack 09-19-19

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We got notes and X T smackdown. Tweak all your favorites and well yeah. We are talking clash of champions tonight. We're GONNA get in that in just a second but I had a horrible realization nation as I was listening to the intro tonight. Bray Wyatt stole the undertaker's love puppetry think about it he he did think about it really hard okay you. You don't know what I'm talking about. If you've never seen it enter intro a you have the undertaker saying that he can now pursue his love of puppetry so that is from the Scooby Doo movie that wwe did a few years back where they actually got the undertaker to do voice acting work in it and the man is obsessed with puppets in the movie and it's amazing and Ah Yeah I just realized that Bray Wyatt has puppets in the firefly on house so he lifted takers love of puppetry ticket for his own. He took his dark demented Anthony and now took his puppet plumbing to be fair. They take her never had a rabbit warrens. Everybody would psycho. He is go there. You go there. It is very we're GONNA talk about right here my second yeah yeah he he. He played a big part in class champion so we're GonNa talk about a good here that you're alright a nudist stay safe okay. I know I know it's just a tropical depression but those things can get weird really quick so just take care. Stay safe. Buckle down drink them if you got him. I don't know that's what we do here on on the rare occasion that we could tropical depressions or hurricanes we all just kind of get together and get drunk so yeah no disrespect but that's what happens so anyway clash of champions. Awkward Awkward Transition Yay awkward transition sorry we're talknet clash of champions which was this Sunday or this past Sunday on the WB network and overall thoughts this. It's not a terrible show. I mean it wasn't wasn't anything like spectacular but you had some really nice stand out matches on the show and I feel like what needed needed to stand out did stand out you mean how becky Lynch and Sasha really had one hell of a match and F affect guy that tried to grab Sasha's but like f him so hard that is so rude. Okay this do nothing but does something to do something so on that yeah screw that guy but there's been a picture on the Internet. It's been circulating dude went after Sasha's but right yeah. There's a picture sure when Charlotte's going to grabbing Paleo for slam. She just gets her all right up in Bailey's behind. Well that's different but they freeze it at a certain point it just sort of again. That's different. That's wrestling wrestling. I know but had nothing to do with nothing but had something awesome so yeah. Baleen Sasha made with matching night flat out any Bailey Charlotte Pecking Sasha. It was mentioned that we had crowd diving. We had just them throwing around. There was a lot of angst and anger and bitterness in this one that it was really nice and just kind of added to it and well. Sasha almost had becky's number almost almost but well becky lynch inch decided she'd had enough Sasha banks and so she smacked the crap out of a rough and just like that the man retains Brolin Crowns about five minutes and they decided brought Brown crap which was which was equally as good which was fun and that was like the prelude to what came on and setup to the match at how cell doc that's going to be in House L. Its Holdings as we are watching on Sunday. It was like this is the point where setting it up. You're studying up the idea whether you go falls count underwear or so. They can't brawl around the arena. Put them in the and that's what happened and I think this is the perfect setup should Sasha have won the belt here at partly yes but the way they did the finish I would okay with it was like unlike the Randy Orton re Kofi finished from summer slam whereas very convoluted. This one made sense. It's like Becky's he's had enough of being attacked with the chair and she just went screw it boom right to arrive as she was going to. Sasha shoes just had enough so like that part made sense it was logical coming out a like like the rain the Kofi Patch so and honestly I feel like since this is carrying enforce to hell in a cell and it's going to be in Helena Sal that it makes sense. That's Sasha doesn't win the title here. She wins at next month in the cell. You assumes the next month in well I mean she kinda. There's almost setting it up to where she has to the other kind of playing that my point because says especially if rumors are true about what's going to happen with Becky Lynch in the draft then yeah it would make sense. Sasha wins it next month as opposed to here so that was that was the one who is mentioned. You have the opposite in the Bailey Charlotte match. I am so proud of I am so incredibly proud Taylor. Why she played the game and she won. She got her as three minutes and then she's crawl up in the corner learn to yanked off the turnbuckle. No one sees it and then she grabs her young. Sir into the turnbuckle knocks out the pin and then she just does drops about doesn't dead sprint. I mean she booked out of there like I have never seen anybody hall but so fast my tire life as I saw Bailey like she just just ran. She had Braun strowman speed. I mean she just was like okay. I want by far no celebration nothing just by. I mean somebody they put it out on twitter tumbler that late that finish of the match echoed Charlotte were Sasha Charlotte beat Sasha in a similar fashion to retain in her title Kerr plays up to it so it plays up to just a little bit little little Easter egg in there. People were pointing out. There were some similarities to Becky and Sasha's first match one of the first matches the next t the first big match and honesty in in in their mass as well some callback spots. Where does this Jacksonville Eighteen ben for for like three football game two to like we're. We're the hill. Were these guys decided to show up. I guess I said the crowd is so sad anyway anyway. I'm sorry for transitioning away from football backed wrestling so we crown new role tightening champions on the show lost points for that we did we did Robert Rude and Dow Ziegler the fields with rounds of Sherman brainstorming run into problems and Bobby Rude Robert Career to hit the Glorious Deity to pick up the win and the titles. There's one point in the match. I think it was right at the end where route was waiting for struggling to to change come. Adam and and I pulled on a rope or something but struggling was late so it's like they're waiting. Commentary was like ahead of the game think something's about to happen and it had happened. rubers waiting hit the glorious. I was like okay. It was a little it wasn't rude fault. It was more sure when he just sorta Louis Yeah but I mean overall. This was okay. I like the fact that they took the titles offense rollins in Stroman. It makes complete sense that they did that. Just snippy goes they fought later later in the night and that's really awkward when you know you're attacking champs and you're going for the title like it was like how are they going to work for that and they figured it out by. Just Leading Rude and Ziglar Ziegler had the titles honestly. I'm not offended by the pairing but I wanna see what they do with it. If the long term plans as as champions with a couple of quick things do Krulak retain occurs went on a pre show also. Aj Styles retain his title against Cedric Alexander Pretty much domination my agent in his match up when it came to the cruiserweight match cruiserweights coup cruise. We don't have spots that mattress sloppy. Oh man it was sloppy. Jewish retainment you could tell insane. Humberto Humberto haven't been in this position to have a spotlight match on a pre show since this was the first shot so it was like they were trying to do too much and I think it hurt the match converter. I think is fairly new stall right but to rustling but this is kind of platform platform. It's it's a weird situation. They were trying to go out there and the president just you didn't worry that it didn't work it was very sloppy and usually usually on the pre show the the Kruse way matches matches are the one of the better things on the show this one wasn't it sucks but sometimes Alabama we also crown new SPEC down tight team champions we did did in the revival so they went hard all day and all night and while the revival pick up the titles of new day they took advantage of every woods being injure injure coming into the match they tore up the tights injured it injured still recovering from Dragon Khan and then read the dragging conflict tights which is rude which was very rude disrespectful to the cult of the floor but it they were fixed up on smackdown so they were okay but yeah I not Mersal Gerbil. It was fun. I really liked it. I I don't have much say about it obviously but it was fun it was foreigners solid tag team wrestling then we have an explicit nick across retain their tactic pedals over many rows and Sonya Deville suicide cute. She looks so cute brought back the pigtails she brought brought back the Harley pigtails which everyone excited well. I mean yeah. She looks on with them but but we we need to talk about Nikki has she's adorable house adorable doorbell and her dancing crazy little scot free cake. I love her so much. Her dance game was on point the market out of great I do that. It was a nice. It had nice chemistry. Oh that sucks close on the on such and he was down by contact not even go there. Take not even moving go falcons anyway anyway because yeah yeah the the Falcons beat the Eagle on Monday on Sunday. I'm just pointing that out. The Falcons beat the Eagles on Sunday to throw that out there in case anybody's interested in. I think the braves beat the phillies today to okay so let's Mickey Cross attacked. He titles should retain the title over the MS semi was being same sayin- complaining and all that stuff and it was enjoyable Zan's. Mike Got Thrown off the stage so he has talking knock knock. Mark kept his championship tip. I really liked the Shinsegei Sammy Pairing I really think it's good because it gives sammy a platform and it gives Shinsegei since gay someone to not only play off of but also to be as mouthpiece a little bit not that Shinsegei can't talk but but it just it makes it a little bit more impactful Kofi Kingston retained over eighty in a really good match solid but you could shop like five minutes off of there would have been better well yeah but this one had a little bit more drama going into it which helped a little bit more of the story where it was now randy's been getting the better of Covy for weeks now can Kofi kind of get ready out of it's head and focus and beat him and copy sure as heck did which was wonderful. There were a couple of spots where you went. Oh Ramsey's GonNa win the archives but he he didn't get the you got the phone robes and covy trump. Peres got the win. Rating was trying for the punt going to bring back the bull. PUTT kick so their tribal you. It was good and we know why randy loss clean 'cause we'll. We'll talk about that few minutes. Yeah we're talking about that. Kid Than Roman reigns aircrew and not q match was fine. They brought the did everything you expect them to do. They got physical winter table going through tables. era growing got new gear yeah so we were watching this. I said the Linzie oh he's new gear. It looks very bloody. It looks good because if you didn't see it's like a he's wearing it he wearing the pants on smackdown but he has a little vesicles with it and it kind of looks like a grungy. Viking Slash binder look which it was like okay all right. I'm digging. It looks good in it. It's better than the green jumpsuit now all right it's working and you know he. Enron or throwing each other around or beating each other up going going through tables using chairs whatnot and then well yeah yeah yeah out of nowhere a Luke Harper a what with his man Bun a what a Luke Harper appeared in his matching pants in gear Wouldn't you know it out. He's there to help his buddy a Eric Rowan and the bludgeons reunite as they take out Roman reigns and I believe era grow picks up the wind like go Eric Nick all right and we're gonNA talk more about them on smackdown because I feel like we need to but look Harper's back yeah so happy happy. I missed him so much and I'm just GonNa say this before. We get to smackdown 'cause. I think he did throw it Sunday night. Nobody nobody throws us. Spending spending or bar like the corporate does closer spending clothesline whatever it is. Nobody throws things like Lucar. It just looks nasty every time he does it. Blam blam Bam thank you ma'am. He takes off somewhat into it yeah very. JBL S with harder our anti Mil- hard close from l. but the little this is close to discuss goes on this what's called. I'm trying to remember what was calling. It's like what is it. It is yeah so are grown beat. Roman reigns to some surprises and then there is the management Seth rollins and Berlin Germany for the Universal Championship for stomps. Here's another thing that I saw coming as like like he was trying to give the once one thousand nine hundred thank. You know what I need to do color he. He needs to go for the pedigree. The pedigree always wins right the pedigree hit a pedigree and then stop and got away but but not before Braun strowman made a really valiant effort of taking a dive off the top rope and flying yeah yeah what the hell that should have been that should have been it it should that should have been it and if it was like a half a foot different. It could have been all ed because he almost fell backwards yeah he he you saw him. Get off on those on those. His legs are shaking cursor. Wait he ate he. The boy can fly to once. He's it's up there. Okay it'll jump picking fly guy getting up there. It's like Oh God. His body is trembling as the standing up on those ropes. Oh God we're talking about. Braun Braun Ron took a flying leap of faith off the top rope onto seth rollins and about crushed him in his like that really should have been it but it wasn't any alike rock said Steph hit the pedigree he did the curb stomp one-two-three and still universal champion Seth Rollins but oh way eight way there's water. There's more because his victory is very short lived so as we've learned from watching gimmicks takeover uh-huh Golliwog past the and look credit thing you do not turn off the show until black next show starts sorry. Bray Wyatt has a date with Seth rollins at Helena Cell and well. He wasted no time in coming to claim his prize is 'cause the fiend appears out of nowhere beats up. Seth rollins on the stage in the way that we end clash of champions is Bray Wyatt standing tall holding the universal champions head like his lantern as the sess poem body lays on braise leg. That was a nice nice visual. I'm just GONNA say this. If this happens I will scream the best intimidation tactics that they could do for Bray Wyatt is for really big matches like this is is. He stretches his opponent's face over the lantern. They'll be interesting if you can actually get away with it. You know what I mean. Is that like crossing too much of a line think so oh some some could take it out. That's a little too far over the line. You know what I mean some could. I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying in tournament tournament eighteen. I'm not saying you do it. Every time for big matches like this can do it and the reason why is the Phoenix already intimidating enough little aspect to it because you're not supposed to like in. You're not supposed to feel comfortable around him. It's supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. It's supposed to make you go that's that's the desired reaction that they want the ultimately they want you to chairman. They want you to buy the merch but it's like the actual physical reaction of it is like I'm not so sure this is okay made very clearly based on the entire presentation. The dude is a monster. He's the monster side side two Mr Mr Rogers so that's why I'm saying it's like just for intimidation loan because just the visual abry white standing there holding Saharans Theron's head like that made me think of it as God that would be like creepiest crap as he walked out with the lantern stretched over bronzes face stretched over GALANTER I. I don't think it's a great visual. I hope they could pull it off. I think they can I mean so far. They pulled off everything else with the fans so we'll just have to see but yeah so bray. Wyatt has his date and he and seth wasted no time on Monday night which we talked about on the show but now now we're. GonNa talk back in one second. We'll get this dancing dancing. The show is really good overall. I enjoyed it. It was a good it did not drag Which is the best part? I mean so pick them right right. We gotTA talk about that. We've got to talk about how bad you did. How about I did. How did you how did have made the April went seven four. That's the bench where April went seven four. We we got beat by day. Building me. No actually really really awesome. We were ten one. Which one do we get wrong. I think we will we will both want it. Rainy okay all right yeah. That's what we nailed are grown. Beating beating Roman reigns same build it into the we we did. We build that one into the universe. Go Go us on that one but now now we can go to smack all right. Welcome everyone to this week smacked up through okay so I didn't realize magnum was GONNA be in Atlanta until Monday so I did not go to this but this emanated needed from my hometown which I were they calling it Philips arena where they calling it filter. They calling it state farm. It's actually stay former. You know okay all right. We all call it Phillips but because that's what it's been for fifteen years or however long whatever so let's talk about a few things one. Shane McMahon and and was served papers okay all right. I want to talk about this because I love this. I've been waiting for somebody to do this four years in that is they're using logic in a story line against somebody else so okay basically. Kevin Owens this was allowed to come to the show but he is sitting the crowd and then he got invited to the ring because Shane McMahon got served papers by Kevin which is basically a wrongful termination aroma termination lawsuit against WWe Shane McMahon you know because Kevin got fired last week on the show so Shane's like okay all right you come in the ring and you have your piece because this this is a laughable in Kevin Suing Shane for twenty five million dollars and it's like okay all right so she's like you. Don't have a case. You don't have a case you know Yada Yada Yada Kevin's like a really I don't have a case and then he proceeds to list every grievance that he has against Shane. You'll basically that the crux of Africa everything he said but the crux of it was that last week Kevin agreed agreed bidding to get the fine lifted and the fact that chain tried to cheat to beat Chad Gable and he still couldn't do it but he'd beat up Kevin any fire Kevin. Oh wait no. I know what it was. It was Elias so the whole thing is Kevin. Put His hands on Elias. Who is who is referee at the time and got one hundred thousand dollars. Well Elias did something similar or Shane did something similar narrow no consequences to it and then when Kevin bidding to get the fine lifted and Shane cheated to try to be Chad Gable Shane couldn't get it done and he'd beat up Kevin who was an official show at the time Farro and fired him and no consequences have been taken against Shane McMahon so Kevin's like I have a case. I have a strong case. Fu Ask you and if you've read bothered to read the papers not only am. I going for twenty five million dollars. I'm also going for the right to look you in the face when I win and say you're fired fired by MIC. Drop not sure that part works well. I think the way that they're going to break it down. Is it though that you know they're going to. I forget about the twenty five million dollar part and essentially. WWe Is going to settle with Kevin to fire shaming man like he can lift whatever he wants in terms of the repayment of damages in a lawsuit so you know he could say he wants Vince McMahon Jr the funky chicken on Youtube for ten hours like that will make him holy. He could put that in the lawsuit that doesn't mean he'll get it but he can put that in there so it could be. I want twenty five million dollars. I want fire Shane McMahon and the lawyer in quotations who wrote this up as like yeah I could so people are people on on twitter save. Sonko and everything and this don't come. I never do this well. He's threatened that before with in the early days with the austerity binge McMahon my gun point one point spent you know He was stunned like this. This is twenty nineteen. It happens often. Some things similar to this Kevin's Don austen number one is using the stunner but he's not Austin and number two. This is a this. This is a way to extend out the story line because now it's Kevin Owens has something that he's holding over Shane McMahon and he's holding over wwe. And how long can they stretch that out before everybody everybody gets sick of it and they need to have a resolution whereas with Austin. It's you know you did this to me stunner. It's over and done within a week so this is a way to extend another story between Shane and Kevin and keep it going and I like and again I liked that. They do this because I feel like. There's a lot of these situations especially in the firing situations where it's like it's straight up wrongful termination and nobody ever does anything about it and now it's like you're putting that in Canon that you know hey by the way I'm GonNa sue you because you fire me wrongly a couple of things for mattress. Charlotte beat Sasha by the by disqualification barely broke up the the figure for after match Carmella came down made the save people running y Carmelo no cannon them story and everything like that a real life Bailey and Carmella. BFF's soccer because Sasha is phillies at least work wife Carmella is lease bff slash other work wife Charlotte who's just in the middle. He's just in the middle. WHO's to the threes work wives Mary. They're all secretly married but yeah you know it's this is good. I like that they're using Carmelo for something other than being with with Archer Ruth so heavy machinery beat the B team but I think you need to talk about Otis's year. Okay all right. I love it's the only get me wrong. I Love Otis. Bring the straps back home saying bringing back not that he's not awesome. It's not that he's not funny. Just the straps bring him back edge ED's. I had concerns through this entire match that things were going to go. Flying Everywhere won't boy so yeah just straps. He needs straps on his gear. Thank thank you so we're supposed to be saving saying Komo versus L. A. Sammy let distraction with Michael marked to just came out with the consensus consensus of their setting up the alley nakimora program that had been building then stop now back on track so which is good with that I was a little sad had they had dropped it in other bringing back. It's like okay all right. I'm good but this Baron Corbin this coordination. He dominated his comes dommage strong but these cherished and fan he demands respect. He called out able check Abelson. Well tired of the short jokes took them down through the chair hit him with the sceptre tore up the robe so there you go check stands up even though he lost the king good stuff. Can we please get corwin crown fits his head thank you so there's two other excitements to meet and talk about by the laboratory while talk room recreation dot. COM waltergrave accounts with US estimates alive. Give you the option. Do you WanNa talk about the big match announcement talk more with our growing. Let's talk about the big match announcement. I okay so new de the fee that the revival and radio aren't good opening six men. Tag Match uh-huh Kofi case in celebrating the tone of the everyone dreads the theme of PROC listener hits brought listener comes down down to the ring with his advocate Paul Heyman Paul Him and makes it clear that brock listener wants to challenge Kofi Kingston for the WWF championship on Friday night night October the fourth live on Fox Kofi Kingston accepted the challenge and then got to fight for his struggles so it's Brooke Kofi title what Fox fifteen years it's been since blockbuster has competed on television fifteen years. It's like something biggest happening next week. They're doing a two weeks to ace that you know there's like a big debut or television mm-hmm so they're pulling out the big guns for Fox in that you know brock listener is is competing on TV. That's that's that's a big deal and he's competing against Kofi Kingston and I'm just going to say this right now to everybody within Santa my voice if brock listener wins. Let's all be gracious about out this. Let's not get bitchy. That's that's all I'm GONNA say so. We've been saying for months on the show Liza. Have that should be the. WW champion on Fox we thought at at least I thought it'd be the money in the bank cash on Fox but they blew that a few months ago here. They are giving that scenario. Those are challenging for a championship on Fox the last time these two men was in Japan merb`ys from the east. Yep sure do three minutes squash. Match Brock destroyed coffee so we'll see this result is any different. I doubt I believe broadcaster will be your next. I mean that'd be champion which he should be. The legitimate athletes should be the champion on the Sports Network Fox maximum eyeballs on this. You need to make sure that Oh you do you have a big moment on the show otherwise it's just like like especially with the declining ratings and all the problems activities and having as of late they need to get started right out of the gate and do something super impressive in so they are rolling out brock and getting brought to Russell on TV to ensure that they have that big moment on the show. Oh it's not even that it's now say on Sunday during football. You can help promote. Hey everyone remember brock listener right. He's challenging challenging for the WWe championship smackdown debuts on far 'cause brock listener love them or hate him. He's a big name. He's he's. He's he's means. He's a mainstream lane cove popular. He's not mainstream name brock listener challenge for the WWF championship on the Fox debut. That's marketable. That's promotion that you can drive home the same so there's and then there's Eric Rowan danger buying stuff thin show. Dan Bryan came out He said basically he he didn't he said Roy Williams says people didn't see him but that's why he said he saw Arkansas intelligence talent when they what were the tactile see treat him as an equal. He said he thought it was afraid because he's still a friend wrong on came out and said Brian didn't feel equal feel equal when when he never let him talk he didn't feel ego when he was standing in the background he then told Brian he would no longer allow us to be disrespected. Brian Get mad at this point and Toll Rowen. If he felt this respected. You should come to do something about he said nothing could do he could do physically would amount to breaking of their friendship and betrayal and then this point Harper of. Luke feign attacks that your Bryant from behind Roman reigns makes the save you've but in the end to former bludgeoned brothers leave Roman reigns and Brian laying if the putting dinner bryant through table thoughts opinions. I liked they remembered Eric. Grown has a brain the brain like feel like you know he's exactly right that he gets pushing the background. He's always the lackey he's never the leader and now you're flipping the roles and because between the two of them Harper was always kind of leader in Eric sort of followed and now you have Luke Harper sort of blindly following Eric Rowe and and doing what era grown wants to do and you're giving Eric that chance to lead and I really like that. I love the Promo that he cut on Daniel. I love how they beat up Daniel. He we just talk about how air growing in Luke Harbor flunk. Tom Phillips in his chair halfway across the ringside area into a wall because that happened and then Tom Fills Lehner dead on the side. eight is like they didn't even let him get out of the chair. They just threw him and his chair for to do but I like what they're doing with Eric a light that they're making him a legitimate threat and it's nice ace like it's unexpected and because I feel like it's like we need that big man bad guy to be out there and and he's got copper by side help him he goes. This is all you really can ask for this point. It is I'm George Malcolm and somebody pointed out something really interesting that Brian sort of knelt down down in front of Eric the same way he did right newly opened his arms legs yeah so it's it's kind of interesting could be get a ruined and family or something similar to maybe it also the best part of this whole thing is growing did an interview and they asked him about. Bryant and he's like he's very quiet. I don't know Hooper brewers carpenters. Hulu carber is used by bullets and brother. I haven't seen him in a while but you know yeah. He's my brother but very white the fiend what who aren't even that is it was like I I was in Minnesota Lucas in Minnesota Brian Sale like the the best part of that whole thing is like the fact that Eric Rome was either too out of his mind to notice or braehead him so like drugged up. He had no idea where he was news. Just blindly only following bright around everywhere made it so much better. Oh Hey look Tennessee finally scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter. How about that scores? Seventeen six Jaguars by the way about to be seventeen seventeen seven blue dark. I think that's good for you. Is it done anything this game but touchdown. Ya'll by so we're going to break. I say we go to break too so when we come back. We're going to be doing the news. We'll be talking in and we've got tweak so you'll hear talk radio. Dot Com and we'll be right back. Are you following on twitch dot TV slash W. tr live live. 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What's well yeah math portion of it is Fox so really the biggest news kinda come out of this past week is that the deputy draft is going to be happening on October eleventh right after Helena Sal so they'll be officially deciding who gets to go to raw and who gets to go to smack Mac down on the eleventh and they're going to be hard setting the rosters because the wildcard rule will be ending so on limits it will be so this was broken. Aung on the NFL on Fox yeah which I don't think ever w wanted no I think they did. I think they wanted to have it because they then put it on twitter i. I don't think it was the Seattle game. I guess they blurted it out or something thirty trump during the primaries oh yeah breaking news redrafts this happen yeah. It was very unsown. Asli let out so there you go so there's are Fox Fox through the night. I'm just going to go through all at once John's because it just makes sense to go through them so all right. Fox is going to air smackdown greatest hits on September twenty seventh is going to be hosted by Charlotte in the MS that will be at eight. PM Eastern time so set your clocks to that Eastern Eastern and Pacific Eastern Pacific. I'm sorry and then we'll if you missed that you can can catch W W wrestlemainia legendary moments on September twenty ninth on Fox that will be hosted by John Cena before you continue. Check your local listings listings retirement availability because they'll be during the the NFL breaks the game between be on. If you get one of the early game and you don't get the lake game they'll be on and the west coast will probably be before everything ticket local listings for coverage and then they're going to be doing. Fox's going to be doing a kickoff show for smackdown on on October fourth. That'll be at seven thirty PM Eastern and Pacific Time so make sure to check that out and then there's a rumor going around that according to the big lead dividend backstage age to debut on F s one member fifth and the show will be hosted by renee young and reported co hosts include but not limited to Booker T. Edge and Christian and I'm sure are others as well but they've been out in Los Angeles. They've been testing people to work with young Kathy Kelly will be involved in the show in some fashion as well should be splitting time between exte- and the Fox show which is why when last week we did all those hires and stuff this why Cathy to do more and they can do other things for the w family yeah go back to the kickoff show it'll be on Fox seven hundred PM Eastern Pacific traffic before smackdown. It'll be the blue carpet special though he walking the new the blue carpet because smackdown which blue so there you go here we go so oh going back to John's Sina. He was officially announced as a part of the next suicide squad film which is exciting news for hand. That's a huge huge thing to get into so congratulations -gratulations to him and then paramount announced on Thursday that it's teaming up with Debbie studios developed the animated Comedy Film Rumble which will star. Will Arnett Terry Terry crews and Gerald Geraldine Viswanathan someone. I'm so sorry but your name is Becky Oculus and Roman reigns so that should be exciting sounds cool and then following that hub. WWe Airing Star cade from Duluth Georgia of all places. I may actually have to go. It's going to be a one hour live special in December first on the WB network so yeah go get your tickets. 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA be here in Georgia. y'All and it's not downtown raise the baby Jesus. It's nuts out and now now we have a special edition of the blame brands the NFL quarterback addition bones breaking backs so it's this week's injury rounder who is to cover the news print. It is the third week of football. He did all this at the second week like you could've could've at least waited until halfway through to take this many out. Jesus dude so are just going to read through Sam. Sam DARNOLD GOT Monaco Auto Hashtag Blame Brent Sam's backup Trevor Siemian. Oh God he got Simeon Simeon he got he's. He's like Helen's school. You noted Anyway Port Trevor. He's out with an angle ankle injury and he is out for the season Hashtag. Blame Brent the one that everybody's crying about at least New Orleans drew brees has a torn thumb ligament. He will be out six to eight weeks. Hashtag blame Brent Pittsburgh is also crime. I because Ben Rothlisberger has torn. UC L. He's out for the season. Hashtag blame Brent or yeah. That's in the elbow. A Cam Newton is out with a foot injury. Hashtag blame Brent and Tom. Brady is out with a calf. I don't even know what I'm GonNa do. For my fantasy team Hashtag tag blame Brent I have rothlisburger and Tan and Brady. Where am I supposed to do with that. Crap Brady still playing but he has he appeared on the injury report with with a calf injury so there's that came new may pie but he has a foot injury so things to them on. You're seeing you YEP. She also had Andrew Luck at one point and yeah Andrew Liquor tires so then it's like. I don't know who to pick up and that's how I got Tom. Brady was Andrew. Luck retired says like okay. We'll let me look got on her fantasy league and for whatever reason Tom Brady was a free agent in the wgn early so it's like okay all right. I'll pick up Tom. Brady because why not it's the Patriots he can always rely on Brady and the Patriots so he's been doing good for me. I hope he plays on Sunday. The rents on the quarterbacks was too good at Ah I mean my God and then on top of that he got Xavier Woods on the bears not not the wrestler Wrestler Ecstasy. Stay we should do through the week I can conor face to stammer standards of taking over mops as was so big found tweet tweet a place where you can go ahead. Iran a hundred forty characters of this dish starts. I I refresh because I tweeted no It's can I am Righty righty so here we go. Mike tweets and yeah. We're GONNA Start Bray. Why don't mess with the zone is underrated. Pass pass it on Hashtag Sticky Noam Dar replies. I'll your firefly fund whose windows. If you keep rubbing my patter yet Adamson Adam Sandler loving fiend and you can pass that on by the way if you don't follow Noam Dar number one you should and too he tweets in Scottish accent exit like every good Scottish person he tweets with his accent is is beautiful very white replies with a Gif going. I'm sorry have we met and know goes. Nah Now but I've met Abigail out plenty of times and she's a much better laugh than you pray response with this isn't Abigail. You Weird French bastard and it's you know at least x. Noah goes right. That's it. I'm deeming your spooky sister. Get that table set because because you're weird French brother-in-law is coming to dinner yellowy get the lasagna on Abigail Hin Bray Wyatt responds with that says it has begun and no one goes here we go navy chainsaws but Joe Craw free response with this was thoroughly entertaining. WBZ tweeted out history has made again the first ever married to win. The twenty. Four seven championship hip is none other than Glenn Jacobs Hashtag Raw Chris Vini replies with most wins in any land stadium this year Georgia State Byu Tennessee cain one time I Cairo Riley put out a tweet receiving received a touching letter from a nine year old boy named Lex from Central Illinois who sells his lucky rocks to help pay for his rescue. Eagles heart condition hit close to home on so many levels please follow him and help if you can facebook and G at Lexus lucky rocks and it's a video of Kyle talking about it holding his Beagle which is adorable and loving on his dog and he follows this up with. I'm still he'll though and roderick strong goes. You're the meanest person I know. Adam cold tweets out its national video game stage night at midnight. I finally get my hands on a game. I wanted to twenty fifteen. Borderlands cannot wait also for those wondering I'll be playing this vault hunter any tweets at two K and he shows the character that he's going to be playing Colla Riley response with this Tubro and a headset and a new controller converter verdict comptroller power pat and power glove complete with a vibrating game chair and twenty four seven case of banks in the name of all that is undisputed. I'll see you at midnight. Rodrick Song Long Chimes in and goes. I'm slightly concerned about you. Kyle don't forget to sleep. Adam Cole backs up his buddy and goes just another reason to love the man the myth legend that is kyle. O'Reilly This gentlemen let Shock Doc Pandora together my friend Yes. I'm implore added in and tagged Xavier Woods why his undisputed Aaron not been on up down yet and woods goes because schedules haven't haven't allowed for it yet a little frustrated gifts and then Xavier was clears up the whole football issue with it's the other Xavier Woods. y'All wishing speedy recovery on his injury any tax guys Bryant dear Roman reigns enrolling so I just wanted to let you know that I'm super sorry for all the atrocities I have committed against you guys over the years ears. You ever need a third for Shield Union. Were we are totally down best friends with a cross fingers. Emoji so that those back in May that was back in May Bray responded to it and goes seth. I don't any tagged rollins. 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I like when people make video montages of May sorry can watch my weight fluctuated fluctuation to an upbeat pop song breath biggie sometimes in the bathroom. I lift my shirt to see if they're coming in and if someone walks in I pretend to have just been playing with myself rather other people think I'm horny. Instead of Ain you know e a honey honey carriage Jaydee guys. I had terrible nightmare last night. I was forced to sit in a chair. Watch people eat pineapple pizza. I woke up sweating with an elevated heart rate. I'm doing okay now with love or go. Check Tim the Toolman Pineapple Pizza's good your disgraced the fat people Tam Kurt Tim One. I'm not fat. I'm horizontally gift to I've grown three inches lassie me. I'm now over six foot three bring that same energy that kid. I will literally head but you for your wild characters. I five you look like a thumb. Six jeep serve for losers. Seven meek is graded you at four night. Oh Jack Hope you can back fed up. Kurt shitty most attractive things in the world a fresh chicken Parmesan Tim netapp Mansur with a white cloth five subs lettuce and tomatoes when thrown into the garbage me shirtless with a white cloth. He's he's getting really is get this man a girlfriend please so on Monday. There's a whole thing about the baby the thing right so w w tweeted about ailing go at it was me who caught heat for one night in Milwaukee. I mean uh courage cheating one full month back in the gym. Earlier woman trapped under coat got trapped under a car so I walked over and lifted up. The entire vehicle over my head and moved moved moved then saved her. This really happened. I'm so brave like if you believe Let's see carriage. Don't take part takeover Tim. I'm glad you apply this to object inspect aspects of your life especially food carriage. I can't wait to rub Suntan Lotion on your shirtless upper body next week while we drink coffee together at the pool and they're all together. It's GONNA get weird video or didn't happen and then one more thought provoking tweet from Dr Lupo God if you've ever donate blood. There's a chance that you are indirectly helping power a Boehner right now. I mean it's not a lie. It's really not ally if you think about it. It's it's really not lie. You could be powering somebody's Boehner right now and not even realize it all righty an X T. It's time for this week's edition of the next Z. Rundown all right so this was the debut of annexed ts to our format on USA there was a little hitch with with this show because this week and next week half of it will be on USA in half of it was on the network and the USA portion of the show was wonderful. It was great. There were no no problems with it. When you got to the network transition on this one things got a little weird and people had trouble getting into the network they had trouble accessing the feed need. Some people were able to see it. I think it was something nephew gone on the network and got to the fee before the official hand off between the two you were okay because is that was me. I actually got in a little bit early and so's able to get to the feed and actually see the second half of the show rock couldn't like he couldn't get into his account because it was just. I think the the network was inundated. Many people were trying to log in at one time. There's over a one point one million people watching annex t on the USA network in so here America. Not everyone decided hey. We're GONNA log onto the network at nine PM. Eastern now not only the people here in the US. We're trying to log in at nine PM Eastern so I I would say a third of those people from the WHO wants on the USA network this was the first time the people in the UK could log in and watch the second hour the annex t live so they all locked in at nine pm so you're having everyone from around the world travel log in all the ones who is not a good time. It was not a good time but that's okay at AAA addressed it after it happened and he said it's really not that big of a deal which it is but it is no they'll fix the fix the problem going forward or and this new servers new. Everything's like they know what they need to do. Yeah I mean in terms of the low testing. It was for pay per views. Not Everybody log in at the same time for pay-per-view so that's why when our yeah so it's like the service can handle the load for that what they were anticipating painting. was everybody getting on the servers at once and then essentially shutting down the servers because of the couldn't get on or because they were trying to get on so oh they they haven't had to deal with that since they launched the network so you know they're like okay. We'll win okay the first time so I I don't know if they assumed or I don't. I don't know if they were told Yeah. It's GONNA be fine type deal but they'll get it fixed and it's only for really next week in the show is fully on USA. It's not on the network anymore so he's right in the sense that it's not a big issue but it is a big issue because it could impact show next week and I promise you they're going to have it fixed before that show ever hits. The air showed that hit their one. They changed the ramp a little bit. It's a wider and lower to the ground. They change some the seating. They moved the announcers to the other side of the building. Maranello dyed his hair. He did there. They added different lighting to to the setup. It's lighter the the lights are now in the ring war so the the ring is lit up more and there's different lights throughout the building crowds hot crowd was into the entire two hours and they haven't put on a hell. Elvis show and they they went out there with the women the start they went out there with a chip on their shoulder and they made a statement by starting out a number one contender ship match for Shane Obeys lers tidal where you had Yo Shirai taking on Canada's l'oeil and I just remember EEO and Candice Medium and Kansas why my blank I'm telling you I just remember Kenneth Ray and e o like candice in this Era Mia. We're such good journey Bianca. Yeah God damn. How could we forget Bianca Lawson in the match. It's like Oh right before yeah. Bianco really good in that one. They all were all went out there and they they took some risks. They tore the house down. They set the tone for the night. I went boys here. Follow this yeah follow this and they're put on a hell of a match and again. I liked that they opened with women. They made a statement with the women that this is. This is the first thing you see in exte- Steve. This is your first time ever watching it. We're GONNA make sure the women or at the forefront and you see four of the top women in in that particular brand right now and when Kenneth Ray came out mom look like she was ready to beat somebody up and she did and ultimately your number one contender for Shayna bazars. Title title is Candice Array which K. I'll take it. Shanna and her girls confronted Ken this after the match in Kansas like I will take you all aw let's go right now right now to shoot ready to fight so dribble that I really enjoyed the opener. It was really you've got fifteen minutes out ten fifty nine somewhere along for that one you had after that we had Cama Emma grabs like destroy show me six seconds it was a good showing for Cameron grimes even if he's not my favorite person so then had the second big match up on USA network portion of the show it was strong challenging the velveteen dream for the North American the championship this was so could this was so ridiculously good. I will take another one of these please lay Rodrick and and dream tore the house down you had undisputed era all show up at one point to try and help Roger. Get the win and ultimately he did as Roger takes tastes down the velveteen dream to become your new North American champion and the prophecy has been fulfilled undisputed. Era is now draped in gold if y'all pay attention look at Kohl's hands thank. He has an injured right hand because he has both tate t normally doesn't have I think he was compensated for the one about the show anything but you could see white paper on one side on the right hand not on the left their ego and this was the end of the first hour right right here so from here we switched over to the network and we opened up on the network with Pete dawn taking on Arturo Ruez the this was more competitive than I thought I was. GonNa pee on in there and squashed a little bit but I joined us peop- good he got a toro got some spots but intimately got the win the finger breaking submission. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing these to have full out brawl as opposed to a wrestling match but at this was this was pretty entertaining. The CODA KYW's come and sit back next week. They should make Brian Happy. Silje the Elia Creek will match that's fine and then in what was surprisingly really good only lurking and Laroche Leah Russia's Bat. He's an xt and and yeah. That was actually really entertaining. This was your number one contenders match for the cruiserweight championship we saw a really competitive back and forth between the two and Dan ultimately your number one contender for for drew Google APPs cruiserweight championship is none other than Lee rush. Do they keep them away from the mic can just let him work. He's good but I wanna Mike. He's good a talker but he's very annoying it. Did I lose interest now. We miss something and I was going to go right back to it. So so Denzel D do your net took on Coscia was supposed to take on Chris Post to this was he's a part of imperium. No no no no Denzel auto part of him he was or I'm sorry. imperium showed up imperium showed up at Wool Mart Marquel and Fabian ar-kar eichner showed up and they just beat down the dude and then we all brought out Walter as the fans were chanting. We will alter we walter. He came to the ring here to restore the honor and tradition to the sport very serious because she was having none of that. He came out gave them a good talking to this motto. This is my time and we had a little brawl but ultimately because she retreats ring as Walter and imperium stare them down and the fantas champion she does he backs up the ramp. Uber now for now we're going to see developmental rosters. Walter and 'cause she the battle at some point on the developmental stains on the USA Newark. I'm okay with this. I'm fine with this. These two developmental talents are now shots. Were fired today. That's that's all we're going to say. the main event you main event of your show is Matt Riddle Bro. It was sold it bro- taking on Killian Dane in a street fight. This went everywhere. These stooges beat the crap out of each other at one point went backstage. The entire male men's locker room got involved in this everybody Wisconsin fighting. It was just a little crazy you had the forgotten sons back there and they rented the Walter and Walter and Reno got into it and then the strict prophets made the same and never had done got involved somehow they all star Brown to back the Rena and we just sorta ever broiling and then we had some the big dies. Everyone was killing killing. Dame was the one that yeah yeah killing day. They did the big diamond the end to lay everyone else. This was a interesting interesting way to close out the show but a fun where people like all the early early to really wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-what's Lulu hey sounds anywhere instagram sounds it was known everywhere it's a next week you'll be met rental and killing adding one more time this time the winner will be the next challenger for an Kohl's NFC championship with this with this right now. I think we have to wait for it but STU this. I'm okay with it. It was also announced in two weeks. It will be Kansas Shayna on the October second joe which is awesome just a couple of other things to know. you know. It's a big deal when hunter appeared on TV at the top of the show to start it because you know this is his baby baby. This is his brainchild. He's going to be in front of it to introduce the world to it and after the show hundred came out he thanked everybody he did crook crowd diving living and then he fired a shot back to eight w who by the way snuck a commercial into the first hour of inexpiable even of the first commercial official break they got advertising in on the show and then hunter came out at after the show had gone off the air basically said you. WanNa war brant and it took his shot in like here if you WANNA wear I'm ready to go full on a Guy Lacrosse. He's chatting with the entire car was awesome. He he was having a good time. I enjoyed it was fun two hours in this way they'll be more promos and stuff mixed in in four but it was annexed. 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Who Attacked Roman Reigns and Early 'SummerSlam' Preview With Greg Wyshynski | The Masked Man Show

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Who Attacked Roman Reigns and Early 'SummerSlam' Preview With Greg Wyshynski | The Masked Man Show

"Hey It's Kelly welcome to the ringer podcast network up on our site. The ringer is breaking down the forty best singles and albums from one thousand nine hundred nine covering Britney rainy spears the backstreet boys may carry tons more and to accompany that piece we filmed our staffers discussing what they agreed and disagreed with from the article and debated what should've won you can read the piece on the Ring Dot Com and watch the video at youtube dot com slash the ringer. What's going on Jim Brownies? It's pitch Mr Perfect Perfect Schuyler asked him this richer gross battle season one champion. Mike King said Civilly Heartthrob Craig Kirby to make money to see relatively superstar the login Sasha Banks W._W._e.. Superstar Braun strowman coming on the more Zach blender. Dan Black Aka goof Har Hashem Tom A._J.. Sows the phenomenal one if you will and you're listening you're listening to this. You're listening to you. I listened bussiness. You're listening. You're listening. Mathematics show smash masked man show estimation mass man welcome to the masked man show. I'm your host. David Shoemaker joining me on the mask line is dear friend of the pod and <hes> hockey writer extraordinaire. I feel like I probably said that last time Greg Luzinski how you doing man I'm doing good. I find it ironic that I'm doing in the wrestling show in the same week that I published a a long story about the decline of fighting in the N._H._l.. So doing on the pro violence podcasts at the same time by sport is in a regression when it comes to violence listen. We're all about fake violence here on the mask man show in less <unk> in one of our many digressions about shoot fights in the ring. <hes> How's life post hockey I mean how are you going off season post walkie talkie <hes> yeah I mean I I the only the only post hockey <hes> situation is due to global warming in which which case I guess we'll bring back roller hockey international and the New Jersey Rock and rollers at some point as as far as the job goes <hes> I'll reiterate. I just published a long story on hockey fighting in the end of July. It is as if there is no off-season if there is an off season at hockey. We're probably actually in it. It's it's fans about six six weeks. It's all of the Canadian pundits go to their cottages and post pictures of their blenders unders with frozen drinks fi imagine it's when they all get their best Intel from general manager is because they're all Canadian to and they're all neighbors stuff so as an American writer who doesn't have a cottage <hes> I am doing a <hes> wrestling podcast <hes> in my all season. We'll keep plugging away. Keep doing these <unk> by gas and eventually a cottage will be yours. I'm sure glad I'm glad that that you mentioned all these Canadians because that's a neat segue into the biggest thing W._w.. has on the horizon which is Summer Slam live in a couple of weeks from <hes> from Toronto. Everybody I know <hes> in the wrestling adjacent Eh podcasting and writing world is very excited to be going to Toronto. Apparently it's a very nice place to visit but if you go ahead it's rata does your Toronto. I believe it's on either front street or bore. I forget which street it's it's a bar called Saywhat and it is spelled Komo see ostrich V._S._d.. Or what have you <hes>. It's my favorite place to sample many great craft routes and they have good food there too. It's a bargain basement. They have a pool table baller little little place. If you want to check it out say what for all the the wrestle headset the Toronto for recycling. It's a gray recommendation. That's awesome. <hes> listen. We're GONNA talk. WE'RE GONNA run to the whole summer slam card because man it is stacked and it is <hes>. It looks like it's getting pretty pretty well locked down. There's one match that we have have to talk about that. Does that has not been decided yet. The biggest mystery of the week and listen. I like nothing more than a pro wrestling mystery and it's a Roman reigns he he he was is coming out to announce his challenge for Summer Slam and was <hes> <hes> preempted by a bunch of falling <hes> the medal and <hes> and and storage boxes and assorted other things. I'm not exactly sure what I was supposed to see but it looked like he got smushed by a bunch of falling stuff get panicked ached and then and then recovered fairly quickly so we have what we have is. A <hes> is a good old fashioned. <hes> you know who hit stone goals Iverson with the car situation here <hes> but I'm guessing this isn't going to be ricky she this time. It looks like I don't I don't know if this counts as a spoiler. Not I mean if you're really really that worried about finding out who knocked all the stuff over and not following the trail of breadcrumbs <hes> I apologize but it twitter sleuths quickly figured out that they saw a man who appeared to be Buddy Murphy walking away from the scene of the crime and I gotTa tell you if Roman when reigns is in the stage of his career where he is making dudes like Buddy Murphy than I am excited for this stage Roman reigns as career. What what what is what was your take on the misery and on the potential for Buddy Murphy being the opponent the I agree with you that that's a pretty good use of Roman reigns? I think in two thousand nineteen <hes> I thought two things first as the big mystery science theater three thousand fan I think of the jingle he tried to kill him with a forklift. Just went from one of the earlier <hes> Joel episodes and then I also thought about if this had happened in nineteen ninety two <hes> we would have seen a deep doing Keith Lee as is a character named forklift on hundred next week the opponent by God it is like I'll far-left and that's maybe a little bit you know sad that we're not back in the naming wrestlers after objects and occupations era well. I wouldn't be sad about that for too long <hes> but if that would get keithly on Monday night television I probably I probably ended up endorsing that in the end. Listen <hes> there's not a lot of people left for Roman reigns to be challenging so I was actually very intrigued to see who's GonNa come out. I had about talk myself into came challenging the undertaker again or something something something that effect is. There's you know like I said dwindling number of options but you know I mean there's also there was also Braun strowman incident on Monday night raw where he sort would have had an a conversation with was it Alexa Bliss where we weren't quite sure where that was headed so I didn't know if that's where she challenged him to do something manly that that I didn't know if that's what this was and hey listen to might not it might not be who twitter and we all think it is it might not be buddy. Murphy is as far as we know they could change the plan at the last minute and have it be you you know John Cena or something like that right and and that wouldn't I don't think anybody would be too surprised. <unk> need a forklift at if the it was the undertaker he would've just used some sort of enchantment on the forklift would have required a driver <hes> it. They would've been like a maximum overdrive type situation yeah well anyway. It was a it was an interesting episode ending to smackdown and I will say that if this is the beginning getting of the BISCHOFF era regardless of that I mean of where the time you know the time line for that actually starts it does feel like on a sort of zoom. It does feel like going to zoom that level that <hes> and I'll give them great credit for this. They both are on smackdown are making an attempt to have every show be mem- memorable memorable in a different way right or way on a state level if felt like it was Eric Bischoff booking so because a backstage attack using in some sort of Ford object yet okay angry as who the attacker was <hes> all fits the purview which of course will know. It's an it's Eric Bischoff back nation if the revelation of set attackers being extraordinarily underwhelming <hes>. It's going to be Garret Bischoff. I'm GonNa tell you right now. <hes> or oriented being drew McIntyre it ends up being like someone that's so completely on the knows that you're just really they went through a lot of work to a book yourself into Summer Slam Guy who's inevitably booking being booked in a summer slam <hes> yeah. I think that's right. <hes> listen. I mean but what I was Gonna I say is I. I do appreciate that like you know I mean we cover our. I cover this stuff from a week to week basis but you get a week or so removed and it's all just sort of a blur. It's nice. I'm guessing that like a couple of weeks from now. We'll be able to look back and just be like Oh yeah you mean. The smackdown were Roman reigns had that thing fall on him or that episode of the episode of raw where Brock Listener <hes> Yanked Seth Rollins semi comically out of a <hes> out of an ambulance and <hes> and demolish him for several minutes. It's on in several like awkward and painful minutes on live television so I mean there these high points that I if feels like they're sort of deliberately building around if that's the case if that's a deliberate liberated top down decision than I applaud it very it's very attitude era. I mean we're we're you look back in. It's like the raw with the fear truck the raw with the you know filling the blank. It's it does hearken back. I feel like they attempted that during a Becky's stone-cold run <hes> but in how many times can you get arrested really with without being not memorable anymore <hes> but yeah I agree like like the more stunt work the better <hes> <hes> yeah I mean I think we're on the same page there. I mean raw rod. It's share of of of other highlights. Maria Canals Mike Canales. I guess one of the twenty four seven championship and then relinquish its is wife Maria which is one kind of combining two of the most bizarrely entertaining storylines. We've seen oil. I mean listen you can obviously your mileage may vary on both of those things <hes> as with the ambulance attack as with the Roman reigns mystery attack but it's nice to see them doing different things I mean I it sounds sort of like you know obvious but you got three hours to fill in one night in two hours the next night you got to be working and more than one mode and I appreciate them sort of like keeping keeping things interesting ricochet running through the Ron smackdown real quick and then we'll just jump into folks both feed into the Summer Slam Card Ricochet is going to want a gauntlet match to take on A._J.. Styles for the U._S.. Title at Summer Slam. It's the second <hes> match on this card after after Seth rollins where there was a really entertaining <hes> contrivance to get the guy who was obviously going to be in the match into the match <hes> I'm not I guess with Ricochet. There is a little bit more of a question mark. Some of these other people could fit the bill but <hes> but you know it was he was the guy that you know they. I guess we have no automatic rematches anymore. We just have automatic multi automatic multi person matches in which the guy who <hes> the former champion always wins now but that was a really really refund match and it was a <hes> and it was a match that and it was a match that was oddly I believe not present on the Hulu edition of Raw I I was complaining about who Rahula the WHO last week so. I don't want to make this a recurring feature. Tell me about it it up all the matches on the WHO addition now on for on smackdown. It's in smacking. They we do on raw. It's a it's a weird setup where they have. They have a special ninety minute exclusive edition of Raw on Hulu every every Tuesday morning and usually it's a pretty refreshing quick doc way to watch the show and then everything and then you go to the the W._W._e.. Youtube page and they have clips of everything that wasn't the didn't make the cut or you go. You Go back to Your D._V._R.. And you watch all the stuff that didn't make the cut that way <hes> but yeah it's a it's a <hes> it's. It's pretty fun to watch it but it's also fun from a I mean usually really it's interesting from you know my seat to see what they decided wasn't worth putting on the show <hes> e- usually it's pretty obvious stuff. It's backstage segments. It's sort sort of the mid card matches you know whatever but you know in this case sometimes you just have to make hard choices and I think this was one that was just a really long elaborate match <hes> and with on a show with a whole lot of other stuff stuff going on it kind of reminds me of the thing that N._b._C. Sorta doing where they started showing old S. and L.'s <hes> on Saturday at like ten o'clock. You know they go <unk> old S._N._l.. For an hour at been like local news than the new S._N._l.. And if it's only an hour you have to cut a bunch of stuff out of the show and it was always interesting using the seat which sketches made the cut which ones didn't do they put in both musical performances or just one and so on and so forth yeah. I think that that's right that that that's that that's what it feels like but anyway that was a really cool match we saw there's a couple of interesting things but I think what stands out to me. Most is <hes> Andrade ripping the mask mask of Ramos Stereo. Now I know this is a fairly common occurrence in in the Mexican wrestling scene especially. It's a pretty standard Ruto move to rip rip off your rip off the baby faces mask but you know Ramos ears at this phase of his career where everything everything feels slightly momentous straight like we like the his retirement madge could be right around the corner any time and so all of every little scrappy gets into has a little bit of extra weight. <hes> you know I'm saying this AH at the same time you know out of one side of my mouth out of the other side. I'm saying Ramos Cheerios in the best entering shape of his career so I'm not really sure how far away are how close retirement is but but anyway the O. C. not the not the foxfire show detecting stand a chance there your new tag team champions Yes after defeating the champion revivals and the <hes> <hes> deem who's had another minor scrap with the law the USOZ <hes> for the for the belts and let's see what else happened what else having note <hes> yeah and then there is a the show ended with the Samoan summit between Roman reigns and some oh Joe <hes> I like a good. I like naming a segment like that. It's really that that's that's that's interesting but then you know the the big takeaway that I mentioned earlier earlier Raising the stakes and that's here is only a good thing in in my opinion as on the Little Leonard Out <hes> but <hes> <hes> but yeah no it was effective and using the word effective for an angle that includes the presence of Dolls Ziglar think is actually an outlier tiger so you know I don't know exactly how to put it into words so bear with me here please but they're doing a thing now with with their sort of uh you know the the the sort of crash dummy br on the roster and Ziglar and to a lesser extent I think Samoa Joe to they've been kind of feeling their way through with him. You Know Joe Disgust out the worst thing I mean the worst thing he has going for him is that he's bulletproof. I mean he he he can he can be he can be a legitimate opponent to any champion at any given time so they almost don't feel the need to do anything with them except just let them right Oh and let them lose ziglar. It's like if you're not going to ever do anything with it if you're if even even if you decided that he's never going to be a champion. He's never going to be a real main of inter but he has value in the mid card or he has value as a gatekeeper. He has value as a personality. Just put him on T._V.. All the time because we can complain about how if he keeps I mean people say oh if he keeps losing the no take him seriously but the way we take wrestler seriously if we see them all the time you know that's that's that's the that's the the imprimatur of grain that that shows that the office is is is behind him when he's just on T._v.. Running his mouth wrestling matches all the time I mean I kind of like I kind of like overabundance of Dolph Ziegler's hapless hapless journey. I mean it's it's <hes> it's it's sort of. It's sort of interesting. I think he's always been affected worker. <hes> you know the other stuff is negligible <hes> but <hes> but yeah I mean sure it's fine. Do you think Simone Joe Randy York narcotics that category that tier of <hes> constant guys you could put into title matches but like a threat but not really a threat like this an interesting category of developed there yeah I think so I think I think I think Oregon has a little bit more of a <hes>. I think I I I don't i. I think with Gordon my guess is that he he he is functionally in that category is probably seen as being in that category but at the same time him he's. I think that the people in the office assumed that he will have another run or to the belt you know yes because Joe Joe didn't really have that up much <unk> no and I think that's I think that's that's that's a problem I mean I think he would be an incredible champion. It'd be interesting to see what he can do. <hes> even if it's during some quiet months just let him get the Belton run his mouth but but <hes> you know I but I do think he's in that category. I think that I think it's you know a lot of this but a lot of the biggest success stories that we've had over the past several years or people who were maybe perceived to be in that category and they and they bust out busted out. You know I mean there's no no it would have been really easy for Kevin's to fall into that category. You know Kofi Category Yeah for sure coming. COVINA's cokie might have been a notch below that category gory but yeah I mean he he the it's a it's not a bad place to be you know as long as you're always like a couple of steps away from the main event picture <hes> like you know a Kofi Kingston journey can a moment can can happen to anybody as long as you keep the crowd going <hes> speaking of Kofi over on smackdown he he went one on one with J._J.. smackdown was a really interesting match really interesting. Show not just because Roman reigns <hes> had a bunch of stuff fall on them because there there are a lot of relatively clean winds. I remember when I watched before I watched raw. Read the results which you know I'm a big big spoiler guy and I was but it was just like a quick and dirty results and I was I was <hes>. I didn't really know how anything happened. I remember seeing that Seth defeated Dolph and I was just like okay well. I guess that was I mean that makes sense to clean thing and then later found out it it was a decree thing and and whatever else you know it was but smackdown there was I mean there were a lot of clean wins <hes> Kofi over A._J.. Styles Dell's Ali over shaky Nakimora. Kevin Owens opened the show by going over clean over drew McIntyre might have been the biggest surprise owing then Dolph got a win against Finn Valor but that there's another Sh- Mazi thing because of the semi interference of the fiend Bray Wyatt I mean Kevin Owens is is going into summer. Slam when on one against against <hes> you know probably the biggest he'll in the business right now love him or hate him and Shane McMahon and is just on fire. I mean he's the he's the anchor of smackdown now and seeing him go clean over drew McIntyre. I thought it was pretty stunning. Yeah agreed but and and as and as we go back to a previous conversation cleaned finishes also not exactly the Bischoff over yeah. That's that's definitely true. <hes> you know it'll it'll be interesting to see you know at some point we'll get interviews with with Hammond and Bischoff in their official capacities and it'll be interesting to see them talk. Maybe we'll have to wait for them to be done with this. You know it'd be wait a year or two to for them to get replaced but it is but it is sort of interesting to to to to one to think about whether how much how much to what extent or whether and to what extent their their philosophies have changed since they were previously an official positions of authority my guess is that there's I mean Bischoff seems like the sort of guy that might come in with a whole new set of ideas. You know a whole new a whole new kind of governing philosophy heyman is I mean Haymond is certainly evolved from his e c w days but Haymond hasn't been I I mean Hamen has been pretty active at say. This delicately aiming has been Haymond has been fairly regularly active in W._w.. Creative even when he hasn't had a title in W._B._Z. Yeah he he's he's been he's been an unofficial contributor even even without a steady contract for for for a long time and and I feel like he's you you know he he has his entree is going to be a little bit more seamless into this world right and we only we only know Bischoff for one St. really and he wasn't exactly the Mover Reverend Shaker in C._N._a.. That he was in W._W._e.. So I mean we're kind of stuck with that template until proven otherwise it's true it's true and it's you know it'll it'll be the <hes> it'll be interesting to see. All the stuff goes for sure <hes> so listen. Let's let's take a look at this summer slam card because I think that it's a you know it it it bears some a I mean it's it's already big. We're we're we were almost two weeks away a little bit less than two weeks away and it's <hes> you know there's no reason not to do this on every waking moment until the event happens we talked about Brazilian seth rollins. I mean it seems to me. We don't know what's going to happen in the go the home show next week but it seems to me that Seth Ron's getting destroyed this week. It feels like a setup for him to to to to pull off an underdog aww victory at Summer Slam. What are you what what you're what you're there? That's that's to me. The bill right now is is to set up the you know steph versus the monster her yet again and <hes> has come out victorious at at Summer Slam to what end I don't know but that does seem become to build yeah I mean when when brock listener one I wrote a little piece for the ringer just trying to figure out what it meant and it may come down to meaning <unk> as it may be something as simple as we needed brock listener Vince or whoever deciding we need brock listener holding the belt for this giant pay per view event that we have <hes> and and even though even though in retrospect looking back in a year it'll it'll just seem like a blip in a lengthy Seth Ron's championship Raynor's. I mean maybe even if that were the case. This might just be you know this might just be a seth rollins brook listener match and the title switching hands is just sort of incidental to the whole thing but I'm excited to see I'm excited. I'm I'm excited for this match. These two guys have fairly good chemistry and this is a you know if it goes right. I don't know that it's a straight up Mulligan but if it goes right it can it will I think further insinuates thrones as the face of the company is their money in an inter gender seth's Becky batch well. There's been a lot of talk about Inter gender matches lately. I'm not I mean there's <hes> obviously the the extreme rules main event would they got into a little bit of <hes> intergener- Inter Inter gender <hes> shenanigans that sounds wrong but anyway <hes> I mean listen listen becky match booked. I'm sure a lot of people would want to watch that. I just don't I find it really really hard to imagine that w w would ever go down. That road is in it. Yeah there's money. There's money in everything you have to everybody. If if they K- K fate broke up and then she decided take take the title there was a really interesting interview that Becky Lynch gave this week where she was just Sorta shitting on W._w.. Creative for their entire storyline that they were were they were an onscreen couple they apparently they pitched it to her and I was complaining about this the whole the whole way along just because I don't think there's any way that they can be an onscreen couple for any length of time and not and not end up as heels you know and if their value to the company is his baby faces. You've got to keep them apart. You can't do that you're going to you can acknowledge knowledge reality but you know every time a boxer football player basketball player POPs up on the screen during a game or hockey player. You don't mention who they're dating you. You know I mean you don't you don't necessarily have to talk about their love life in the middle of a game outside P._k.. Sue Badlands Yvonne Right now in hockey but I I wonder like if you're we're going to see this thing through how you could book it like you. Couldn't you could put back becky over sess in that situation could you I mean <music> double dig new. They hug it out. Yeah I mean these intergener- matches. I mean the ones that I've seen their each underground had a few <hes> obviously there's there's been a number of them. In on the indie scene <hes> Tessa Blanchard's out there working you know with some regularity these days as <hes>. They're they're interesting and fun matches to watch when they're well booked and I think that there are a lot of ways that you can you can kind of make both people look good good in the mirror not look good but but you know you don't have to the man doesn't necessarily have to look a week for for you know getting hurt by a woman and I think that I I mean. I definitely think that it's possible. I'd love to see her go over. I don't know if they would do it. Yeah I mean I mean she's she's. She's significantly smaller smaller than him so that I think that makes some difference it would be. It would be interesting to see you know we they messed around with China fighting men back in the day and I you know I it would be a totally different booking proposition. If we were talking about rousing Charlotte Versa Aiming Charlotte who's significantly bigger than Rowzee to Charlotte versus. I mean well if you WANNA take another couple of Charlotte versus Andrade or Charlotte versus somebody from five live that might be a real good battle of the sexes type situation. I don't no no maybe Summer Slam Summer Slam twenty twenty man the there it is it's wide open but yes speaking of Becky. She's taking on Natalia at Summer Slam match. They've done a pretty good job of building given that <hes>. I don't think anybody was clamoring for this match no they they weren't but I agree with you. I think they built it well which is a tricky thing <hes> but <hes> but they built it well yeah I mean I think someone it's the same with the tag division. The women's divisions that is as good as some of these matches are at times. They're not quite deep enough. They're not giving enough screen time on the women's side and and you know to have them spread out over two two shows. I mean part of what part of growing this division is W._B._Z.. Obviously giving them more time but part of it is going to be like I like with Roman reigns and whatever he's doing it at Summer Slam. It's incumbent coming upon the stars to lift the lesser stars up right to make right like Becky has to make Natalia into a legitimate contender for the women's division to ever reach the level needs to get I mean obviously Natalia's legit and until he's great and Natalia has it has INCR- has had an incredible career already and deserves this match from a smart marquis metric but but you know like I said no one is particularly clamoring for this and then we have another interesting one in the smackdown downside in Bailey defending in sort of frienemie ember moon when they've done a really <hes> I I mean I feel like a really they've done a really good job sort of teasing that out too because it's sort of a traditional story line but it does feel like I mean it does feel like the way that you would book the that the the the W._b.. Is booked you know men in the past and they've been a little bit reluctant to to book women where they're just like straight up wailing on each other matches over you know yeah and there's something beautiful about that right. They don't need some sort of like backstory of like you know of Friendship Gone Awry or anything right that it's just these are these are competitors who you know can can keep peace for the purposes of a match and then just want to punch each other exactly you have to be a face or heel the pull that off Kofi mentioned Randy Orton earlier in what is places with the the company I mean. I don't think that he's GonNa be Kofi Kingston Summer Slam but it wouldn't shock me. Yeah I think it's I think it's it's in everybody's I mean I i. I think that well on the smackdown side in particular. I feel like we gotta start looking at everything through the lens of WHO's going to be holding holding the bill to win. The Fox show starts because I'm guessing that there's a lot of <hes> negotiation. That's already ongoing on that front. Whether whether that mean whether it's something as extreme as you know brock listener ends up with the smackdown title for the beginning of that show or if it's just you know some some Fox exact has a really <unk> really specific opinion about Randy Orton or about Kofi Kingston or whatever else but it does feel like the move here is just giving Kofi via a nice long run with the belt and a bunch of you know really significant victories before they embark on whatever's going to be his downfall. How much do you think Fox has influenced there or do you think it's more along the lines of like Vince trying to <hes> <hes> create the best scenario to make the biggest impact? I mean when you say like negotiation right like what what do you what do you mean by that. What are your what's your insight on that <hes> well I A and A and maybe a looming problem because at some point I mean whoever it is whoever takes off next or even if we're just talking about the big stars and if you would you want to say like you know what if both networks desperately want Roman reigns to open and close every show then what do you do. I mean that that's not a net benefit for the product for that to be the case but if the networks are demanding it. I think that I think that honestly I think that that Vince we'll we'll both U._S._A.. And Fox will have requests and I think that Vince will be very open to them. I frankly think he'd be more open to what stars or appearing having them dictate what stars are appearing on each show then then you know then wanting to try out a new camera angle I think I think I think that he I think that as far as creative goes he's probably open if if not you know serve defined for the sake of being defiant and I think I think for the most part his views on who is a marketable champion proudly going to sync up without a network may not necessarily sync with that of the fans but I think it might sync up with that of network <unk> agree yeah yeah I I think that's I think that's right. I mean I think that he's that he's definitely got. I mean listen you know www always like to say that they have a test market. You know every time they do will ever four times a week whenever they do a show and they and and so and and I think that I've said I've talked a million times about how sometimes the disconnect between what fans that listen to this podcast fans that are out there chanting painting Siham Punk at at pay per view the that that's a very specific sort of fan and the people that go to house shows are over the moon for Roman reigns there over furthermore wound for the people that W._w.. Pushing and that's folding yeah the there is a disconnect there but but you know the foxing will be interesting too because Fox's is very deliberately <hes> using W._W._e.. As as a part of their sports weekend right I mean they're going to have football. They're going to N._F._l.. Thursdays and Sundays the book ends and there's going to be smackdown on Friday and college football on Saturday and and you know this is part of a programming block like this is half of week or over half of a week and it'll be interesting if they have specific I mean there's there's already been a lot of speculation but if they have specific asks for you know if they have an idea about what kind the town will appeal to that football crowd you know I mean there are a lot of people have been allowed. People speculate that like just based on nothing but his accent but that like A._J.. Styles is the kind of guy that they wanted to show you know it'll be. It'll be interesting to see what they do. I think that there's definitely going to be a premium on more of the real sports kind of vibe to it but that could be interpreted in a million different ways <hes> so anyway all that is a long way of saying my guess is that someone had foxe's already put in their vote for who was going to be holding the W._b.. Championship when on an episode wine and and it's it might be Kofi might be Randy Orton. It might be someone totally different so you know that that remains rising but I do think that if this I mean I don't think this is the end of the Kofi Championship reign rain at Summer Slam and if it is you know I think he's firmly insinuated himself at the top of the card. Kevin Owens we already discussed is just just incredible. I mean I can't it's amazing. I haven't seen I haven't seen like a face turn. That was not predicated on science on you. You know some really obvious old school faced turn trope that has gone over a seamlessly as his in the in in recent memory. I mean I'm sure there is one <hes> did see 'em punk hunk. Turn face with a pipe bomb. I don't even remember but like you know. It's just just to get that. was that was conventional yeah. Are you saying that you're saying unconventional. Yeah I mean Kevin Having Owens was working. He'll and then he just got a microphone inserted shitting on Shane McMahon for no reason and everybody's just like all right. Let's do this you know he's just like the <unk> pushing back against the bands or the the G._M.. Or the powers that the trope right no no no no. I think it's an existing trope. I'm just surprised is they didn't set it up with you. Know <hes> Kevin Owens being e Kevin Owens like functioning as Shane McMahon's <hes> lieutenant for one episode and then kind of getting disgruntled Jordan flipping on him or you know and then take the mic or you know they didn't there was no there wasn't the kind of conventional you know he'll axes a he'll until he's pushed to his brink sort of if <hes> set up that I would expect that's stands the Hor- exactly but yeah I mean I think that Shane Mcmahon if the goal of this whole shaming man arc was to make him the biggest on the company and to make us all hate him so that he could put somebody like Kevin Owens over then this has been a raging success and <hes> and it'll be I think this has the potential to be like the real kind of emotional high point of the night. There's other emotional highpoints as well fin Baylor. There will be <hes>. I don't know if this counts the spoiler but it feels like he's going to be losing to Bray Wyatt at Summer Slam in what will be this rule kiss batch of the car. We what's your take on Bray Wyatt the fiends over. I mean like the way that they've set it. Up Is Cadillac Junior League demon right or not even so much that I mean it's it's almost more like what like Willem Dafoe Green Goblin esque where the fiend I is ah is telling him to do things and I remember that correctly. Yeah Yeah exactly yeah yeah so it's it's it's he's he stormed Osborne. Basically is the fiend the fiend make subdued the horrible things not these happy-go-lucky children I like I like this. He looks he looks like the joker but but at the back but he has the green goblins back story this is this is a EH. You're going with this right. The East trying to do is a little TV show for kids but then he turns and sees the basket. It's like Bray Cater Parker for a I think that you know again for fear of being persistently met in this. I've probably said this before for if this is if the goal here if this if this ends up being a functional regular performer on the main roster then this is the no matter what happens here. This is a success right. I mean we yeah we gotta get him on T._V.. And even if he's not wrestling on raw smackdown weekend and week out if if you want to keep them a little bit special that's fine but <hes> but yeah I mean I'm just I think that as excited as I've been for the firefly funhouse stuff I think this is the first Bray Wyatt return where I'm just sort of like wait and see mode and <hes> you know the kind of prove it to me mode and I am and so I'm but I'm I'm cautiously excited to be to have that proven to me but yet but the problem is in because back to sense memory liquor talk radio. Do you know we picture rent your ness a champion champion 'cause we've seen red. You're as champion and you could picture there being a ring projections of spiders <hes> because we've seen that before and we know that we're like at all at all times with Bray Wyatt to pay per views away from that and there's always gonna be that fear that they they won't know where the Linas and they'll turn something. That's kind of moderately cooler this thing that's just stupid yeah <hes> yeah yeah I mean I. I hope that I mean I think there's obviously there's obviously a path for him to be spooky and to be successful people blooming comparing him to the undertaker for long enough that I think that you know we all know that that's the thing but at the same time you know the undertaker. The undertaker is spooky but at some point when he became you know the best striker in the history of pro wrestling you know you have to submit. He always like chokes emissions and stuff at some point you have to be as dominating uh-huh is dominating in the ring as you are spooky outside of it and embrace why I mean I think the real turn for Bray Wyatt is just you know if if he can be convincingly if if he can take the if he can take the horror movie stick and but turn his matches into frigging horror movies then that's that's great just having beat the crap crap had people in horrifying ways and then I'll be convinced <hes> if he if we could we could be the real issue is this the undertaker ager got to be the undertaker because you look like the undertaker and Bray Wyatt matter how spooky and scary he is always look like Husky Harris Harris but he doesn't have the undertaker's face or his build or his comportment. He will always that's why the children's uh-huh t._v.. Character is kind of a fun Lakers is sort of batches. The fact that is as scary and backwoods Charles Manson. Is You try to make this guy. He's always gonNA look like a Husky Harris so if you make Mitchell to television host will now you're kind of playing into his wheelhouse a little bit <hes> so that that's always like you can only push the super scary things so far with a guy who true nick as he does yeah. I can see where you're coming from with that. I mean I think he's he's. He's pretty scary. I mean I think that he you know he looks looks like the SORTA guy you don't WanNa mess with at a bar regardless of how broad his smile is or you know whatever but he's he's a I mean I but I but I but I agree with what you're saying. I think that that's why I mean listen. I would say about horror movies and obviously there's an undertaker connection there with the with the sit up and everything else but you know the great great horror movie creeps of our childhood didn't all I mean weren't all like you know. musclebound Royd heads you know they weren't they didn't look like super villains. They were just scary because they were violent and borderline indestructible and I think that if you can find a way to pull that off in the sort of realm of whatever passes for reality and wrestling than that's that that's probably probably the path forward but you know that's just me fantasy booking <hes> being a fantasy booking. We talked about ricochet winning the shot at the the U._S.. Championship Sagar A._J.. Styles again in what is going to be. I mean what is just a <hes>. You Know Smart Mark Fantasy match rematch. I guess yes at this point. <hes> those two guys just having them together on the car just feels like a treat and <hes> you know I'm not sure that and they need to be giving ricochet microphone to <hes> for his you know to to cut little plaintiff baby-faced promos every week but <hes> but aside from that had I am all in on this feud and excited for this match yeah. It's GONNA be awesome. I mean <hes> to great workers will heal actions wins on the style side dig it now like it love ricochet and the potential is there for a showstopper the author of a match the O._C.. We mentioned before the original club the only club the I think they're messing around with different iterations of it. We re to take this faction action seriously. Now we spent a long time with the with the Gaza Anderson being sort of goofy and and and you know we've been through this before. Do you think that the O._C.. <hes> name maybe maybe name aside. <hes> can could be like a real a real force in W._W._e.. Can this be could they be the bullet club that they're emulating to such an extent it could but you need you need other guy. I mean I think I think the issue right now. Is that <hes> that had Anderson gals are all only going to be seen as sort of the the muscle for for styles right like it's not it's not a real faction. <hes> <hes> <hes> it's like bodyguards. Dude is Kinda out feels right <hes> so <hes> if a the faction you need to kind of make it into more traditional bullet club setup and I don't think I don't know if they really have an appetite for it. I don't know if what we're we're factions are right now <hes> in in two thousand nine hundred and W._W._e.. Which I live in 'cause I I agree with the the Eric Bischoff? <hes> <hes> philosophy philosophy that that factions are fun. Infections are good and that you could. They're they're they're they draw. I completely agree with that mindset. I don't think we have enough of them. Yeah I I. I totally agree with that. I think that I I think you're right. I mean maybe a little bit bigger. Maybe they can have maybe maybe you you know a lot of people have our fantasy booking thin ballard his crew obviously because of his shared back story with them but <hes> you know wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't be mad if if this ended with you know with with the ricochet joining up I mean he obviously needs a little bit. I don't think he needs a straight reboot but but he needs a little bit of flavor and <hes>. I'm not sure they're going to do that. He's such beautiful baby face. I mean Franz purposes but but but yeah they there's there's definitely a lot of ways they can go with this and an aide with A._J.. I mean he's just such a a great performer that you can have him do anything but he's but but he's also going to be. You know he's not in that. He's not in that you know. Samoa Joe Doll Ziglar Ller camp that category that we were discussing before but he is he there is the risk that he's such a good worker and he was actually so oh six Oh surprisingly successful I think surprisingly from the office's point of view as champion that it did you know he he could have gotten complacent with him. You know when they Britain and they haven't and I think that's a that's that's a good thing exactly the Ms Wrestling Golf Ziglar and I don't even know what to make of it so we'll just put a pin that for now but the big announcement from smackdown sort of shocking thing that we have the shocking summer slam match that I was not expecting <hes> was was that Charlotte flare is going to be wrestling Canada's own Trish stratus in Strasbourg action sort of return of the legend Match Watch. I mean the with the last time we saw Trish. I think there was a lot of feeling that she had a little bit of gas left in the tank and it'd be interesting to see your comeback and this is you know there is a there's certainly a like a legends match vibe to this not just because she's The Canadian thing is interesting though because we have Trish let's see Kevin Owens and Natalia. I mean you know I. I don't think that's how he is an honorary Canadian on she's actually she's Canadian American okay so she yes she's. She was born in Calgary <hes> but she's she's. I mean they're so there is three potential. There's three potential homer wins there on the on the car and I'm not I'm not sure if I think natty is GonNa GonNa take the Bell L. But maybe and and you know I think that K._o.. Is is is going to be another big another big hometown favorite yeah yeah for sure absolutely absolutely well. I'm excited to see trestle. I'm excited that you know we have. We have a really really stacked guard. I don't I mean we're a couple of weeks out. I'm not sure I mean we're a week and a half two weeks out. <hes> this is Jim. It feels like it feels like a big event. <hes> and I'm excited to see where they go with it. <hes> what are what are those match is there is there any of those matches that you're looking forward to particularly yes aisles ricochet <hes> for one and just to see what they ended up doing booking wise with with seth and Brock even though I'm about to like jacked up to see the match itself <hes> <hes> but it's a really good Carter <unk> being my hesitation right now is that they look at this card. I see one two three four five six six seven eight nine singles matches so which one of those is a triple threat by the time we get summer slap. It's interesting. There's a couple of other things I mean. There's there's presumably going going to be a tag match or two added to the roster and the end of the card it all seems like wrangling towards a Nakimora versus Ali I see title match <hes> so that could that could easily obviously pre show fodder but <hes> you know we're this is this card is is expansive to say the least and if I I find it hard to imagine that the twenty four seven championship won't be involved in the show some extent even if it's a you know an interstitial sort of running around backstage situation Asian and there's a lot of big names. There's a lot of big names from T._v.. That that are not currently booked on the card and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing and I think thinking the in the cross branded pay per view era. It's fine to leave some of your big names off of a of a pay per view but it is interesting to see you know Alexa Bliss Samoa Joe. I mean there's there's a number of people who don't appear to have matches set up so <hes> you know who who are very present. <hes> <hes> drew McIntyre people who were very present on Ron smackdown weekend and week out <hes> so yeah. I I guess we'll we'll see how that goes. <hes> like I said like the what when when is the last time we had made for W._W._e.. Pay Per view that and I'm talking major not like Saudi Arabia major that that didn't have a triple threat match on it. That's a good question. I don't know the answer listen. That's why there's no way they're going go with ten singles matches. One of these things is going to involve SMO- Joe or drew McIntyre or even like what you know Rove Romans attacker occur is already booked in one of these matches and then he inserts himself into the narrative something like that's going to happen. Oh and also we got. We have <hes> we have. It's not even on here yet. I can't believe I missed it. We have Alastair black my dude versus one of my other dudes Sammy Zane Sammy's ENA challenge him on smackdown which is gonNA be. We really fun. I liked it there. I liked it there that the the <hes> the soup can or what's the what's the boxing term the potatoes for a guy for the tomato tomato can I was almost there potato and potato soup. Can I like to the tomato cans ends at they're lining up for asser blacker guys who can go and guys that we know are going to give him epic matches and not just cool excuses to to work as finisher that dude what is it is is just a million percent awesome. Speaking of ouster black now brings us to a very important time of the show thanks to I think it was last episode with the Brian Dipper seen we talked about the five guys that we would <hes> that we would employ that we would that we would sign if we had the the entire W._B._Z.. Roster included disposal and we're starting a new wrestling company. There's always wrestling companies out here. If you're starting your own and you can poach five people from W._W._e.. Who who who would be your pick now mine last week just to get it out of the way where I am not going to bother defending them too loudly right now or Kevin Owens wins Fin Baylor Alastair Black Andrade and Wildcard Keith Lee <hes> you Greg Luzinski? What is your top top five? Who would you pick if you were doing this <hes> well? I'm Gonna I say of going off the board. <hes> I bought a restricting this to W._W._e.. <music> okay whatever you want for for I there is now another major at cable television wrestling occasion your your your exercising the wildcard third rule. I will accept that that's fine while guard will <hes> the the reason why there is a major <hes> competitive competing wrestling promotion invite. I'd say it's because of you know the guy who owns Jaguars or because of the you know cody Rhodes reason exists this because Chris Tirico and so if I was starting out promotion <hes> obviously I want Chris Jericho there as draws heat as someone who has got ideas at somebody who knows how to get attention for my promotion by any means necessary might not always either to work for me necessarily as live by the richest going on cruises and bands and things of that nature but if I wanna get my my promotion ocean on the map few people the business better than Chris Jericho to sign up for it <hes> train my attention back to V._W.. Universe worse <hes> I would like you. Bring Kevin Owens incredible talker. <hes> I think works as both a Keel at face but I loved mezin is based <hes> speaking faces. I need a couple of I need. I need a couple of days here. I think it's I think it's really easy to develop heels. It's very very hard to have faces that people care about <hes>. What am I although I agree with you? I don't WanNa buy the bite necessarily often but boy it can go <unk> of ricochet would be one of the people who build the motion routes the other face. I would build the promotion around. <hes> is someone that I wouldn't mind having on the bike decided to be a very entertaining but also has the absolute look of guide you WanNa poster that Matt Riddle with right someone I'd want to build a promotion round. My God like the potential that guy to be just the face that runs the place at some point. <hes> is is intriguing by space that runs the place in an incredible looking charismatic guy who at no point. Do you ever takes all that seriously yes Jon Seda. I think that's right. I think that's right. I think I'm a little bit apprehensive about riddle and I think it's just probably Bob goes goes. It goes to personal taste more than anything else but I do think that they're like. I do think that when I when I watch Matt Riddle I'm like I guess I guess I would say I'm not I'm not. I'm not entirely sure he could be the number one guy W._w._e.. But having said that if it were really I in in the most in the most vibrant periods of wrestling and like the attitude era of W._W._e.. He definitely would have been one of the top guys like he could have. He could have he could have broken through and we we have to sort of be imagining if your fantasy if you're fantasizing in the future wrestling you have to hope that it would get back to a point like that at some point the problem is I bring up seen as the proxy Roxie but the Real Proxies Probably Rob Van dam built point you ever believe that Rob Van dam is that all that gauge and and you know believing being the fantasy world that's being built around. You know it's like he's always that guy. He's always sort of you. Know Not really did the play acting of aw an N._F._l.. Like riddle is sort of been that that MoD <hes> Sita you know for for for disparaging a little bit as as you know I think later in his role for a guy that you didn't really take take all that seriously when he would you know try to get gauged do as rants and be all fiery stuff about feuds. There was a point which he sold it really well and I'm not quite sure it will <hes> but I think he's got an incredible look at these incredible athlete and really engaging engaging charismatic and at the very least connects with the audience in a very meaningful way <hes> Kevin Ellensburg Shea Matt Riddle as my AAC faces Chris Jericho's as my heel and then another upload here with by other pick. 'cause I find this to be interesting in a a number of ways I bring in Charlotte flare. ooh Brigands Charlotte flare now too late to be the lynchpin of by women's division but also as sort of like I feel like you can big Charlotte flare the number one on your company either gender and however be <unk> sort of like for lack of a better term the Rick Flair of course group that it that it sort of inter-gender yeah <unk> is sort of the scheming diabolical <hes> village behind the scenes of many of the healed academicians in your in your in your federation Asian while also being arguably your best worker so <hes> Charlotte would be you know a real a real big <hes> the pillar that I build around if I was building an organization so run through your five again so it'd be a Charlotte Kevin Owens Ricochet Chris Jericho geico metal. It's just because I think it's really really easy to to create fuels yeah and <hes> and he does a lot of work. It's much harder to develop faces and and and faces in many ways make the heels so having three guys on my roster that I think are effective <hes> faces at an wanted ricochet were were along lines of being a great word or anything else is where go very close to making velveteen dream one of my five but opted against it yeah though the teens are really good <hes> I think is a really good option and we we I think picked him and he was he was right on my on my also ran list <hes> as as was ricochet ricochet was basically I had to choose. I felt like I had to choose between him and Finn Ballard and I felt like fin as even though even the ricochets setting the world on fire I just I just picked fan just just by a hair <hes> yeah anyway hopefully thank you for doing that. Hopefully we're going to keep doing this every week. If my guests have have the guts have the guts to come forward Ford with their top five and face the music from from all the listeners out there. I think this could be the most successful bit to end the show since of on the inside the actors studio when you die and go to the gates of Heaven. What would you like Saint Peter to save? You was the question to ask again to bet in that show. Unfortunately the answer was always good job would be usually what people would say like always like to say good job <hes> with your life but yours is more gauging <unk>. I'd say overall well. Do you want to tell us what you want to say to you on the way out here. Oh good job Yup yeah. Absolutely you say good job. You wanted to say <hes> to to to to check you out on twitter to <hes> to listen to your podcast. 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TLC Preview & The Weekly Winner

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TLC Preview & The Weekly Winner

"If you don't know Sirius. XM THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just US one dollar go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers series Xm. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Sexism Channel One fifty six welcome in wrestling fans here again on a Saturday. It is time for the busted. Open radio weekend candidate. Should I am your host Ryan McKenna joined alongside my weekly Co host. The one and only world's strongest man Mark Henry and mark show for the the fans today starting with well twenty four hours go down. TLC tables ladders and chairs. We've got a full preview and predictions come in their way for the listeners listeners. And we get into the story of the MS and the fiend and the developing evolution of one Bray Wyatt slash the fiend. This has been a a sight to behold marking. Is just getting better now. Is it getting better. But it's it's one of those things that we look forward to on this podcast to get some closure and who's GONNA face. Who is he going to be facing a theme or is he going to be from very wide and what happens after this match gets resolved and what Daniel Bryan GonNa look back when he comes back? Also we're GONNA touch on mark something that you and I are both very passionate about that. Revolves around eighty W in annexed tea. And maybe just maybe why the Venom and some of the negativity isn't as bad as people make it out to be. You know we're going to hear a lot about that and dialogue that come from the compensation David Greco and and Tommy have with with. Cody Rhodes It'll shed a lot of light on on what we we feel and what they feel over. The absolutely absolutely and of course is a Saturday. So you know what that means Mark Henry if you ate I your last time for our weekly winner and you know what we have one where you in store we're GonNa talk about the cruiserweight title man change and and we're GonNa talk about one of the best triple threat matches that we've seen is year. Hold onto your hat. Hold onto your hats. Hold onto your thoughts. What's it is time? It is busted open radio on a Saturday. Let's go I mean y you when I hear him laugh I think about the The Heat Lizard. Joker I I hear like the current like the walking Phoenix Joker the media would and the Jack Nicholson character from the shining. Mix with It's just all of these historically really really really creepy really really traumatized deranged entities in entertainment. Him and he's able to weak. The weak come out and do that at a highly. I mean I'm I'm just like wondering. Are we seeing the the beginning of the greatness like we saw with the undertaker are we beginning to see the greatness that we saw where the entity like Kane how they built Cain to be this unbelievable monster that historically we will remember. You're to the end of time. I think that the Fien is on the way to being one of those style of characters. Yeah I don't think there's any doubt about it and I think that's absolutely why Bray Wyatt's first match and the wwe. At least on the main roster was against Cain Was I was there. I believe it was summer slam. It was Inferno match and that is what I think the. WWE wanted starting years ago. And I go back to. When Bray was in annex t and he had those vignettes before as he was coming over from Husky Harris and they were debut in a Mrs you know by you Hillbilly Hick and he he's creepy? He's got this. He's got this or or about him and he was cutting these promos about you know essentially saying he burned his dad alive in a fishing boat. You know what I mean like that that resonated with me and that it was like seven eight years ago now to sit and fast four to what we're living now and the evolution of Bray Wyatt. There's been so many incarnations of bray white and very good ones right so it's I've been this natural progressive bill to what we're living now but this definitely feels like mark even off the all the great stuff. He's already done. This feels it's like this is his best work in you know even more more so than that it feels like this was tailor made for him. It feels like this is what he should have been doing all along. But you know what that's evolution has yeah for sure is Is taking what is given to you polishing it up and making sure that you can. You're able to do stuff that has not been done and stuff that hasn't been done You're able to make it different. So when people see it they are not just see Eh. Fill it. They're able to say you know what this is a part of me as a wrestling fan now and I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and we were talking about men hall of pain and how the hall of pain came to be and there's always these back stories and the back stories are just as important as your week to week issue and you have to bring that back to people every week and I don't know if there's another character in the last ten years maybe more that the back story continues in US every week with was happening with the character of the week the week bases and that's what Bray wide is doing and the Fenian gene isn't excuse me. The scene is an extension of that story line. And that's why we love it so much because it's like soap soap operas or stories. Daily Grega calls them every show they do a recap at beginning. Last week John Killed and hid the body. Like you you have these storyline. Recap you don't have to do that with Bray Wyatt. Bray Wyatt Lyod. Does that for the feen. And everybody's caught up in it and it's just unbelievable thing man like we. We're witnessing witnessing what we wanted all time as fans something that we could connect to that gets her attention and and every week regardless of who that character is against. You won't see it and they open with it they sprinkle it through the show and they a close with it but with with when you have a character like that sometimes the absence of the character is just as important as seeing the character every week. Yeah now you talk about the callback. So let's think about it. He did it last night when he talked about. I had a family once you leave. Talk of it So beautiful it. Is it really masterful. It is and mark. I gotta be honest as we talk about beauty in that masterful kind of nature of this whole story line and where it's headed to work could go I. I don't know if anyone else could play this part. I don't know if anyone else call you. Yeah I don't think so no not at all. I mean you know what I'm when I was sitting here going. Oh this guy would be good. This guy will be great. I am not doing that. I'm not doing it because there's nobody that could be that character. He is that character he he listen. If I could go go back and and being my prime I would love to. I love the Russell that character because both of them I mean I just see I can see the beauty in in both characters and say you have a match say Say MS has a match with Brie white right and I mean is knock down drag out. He ends up beating Bray Y. How mad is the fiend going to be? How many you did? What just like? What happened with Seth? Ed Rollins Seth Rollins went into the fun house and he handed the he handed Bray Wyatt his ass handed it to him beat him down. Burn the house down right. Would the theme do after that. The fiend took everything he had times five live and he came back in there and he'd beat the dog Shit Outta set Rana's that's what the future future is with this character. He can go in and handle people or people can get handled and then here comes the fiend to clean up the mess that you get like. You're getting a sympathy for the character. But you also seeing the retribution of all of the stuff that bree wide his suffering what the fien it is setting up but the wait at the scene fixes it is he goes out and he destroys everything that Bray Wyatt can't get done right and man. The the only thing that I can think of is undertaker like for for whatever reason the undertake a sitting up in the middle of the ring after getting in destroyed by hundreds of Great Hall of fame wrestlers hundreds and been sitting up and just turn his head and looking at them and standing up and and just going it was. That's what I'm getting right now. The anticipation of the entrance. Very wise entrance could be anywhere from Three minutes to two six minutes just the entrance. The ever see people twiddling their thumbs. Now the ever see somebody somebody got godly man. I wish we could just get to the match and this interest is just boring. It's killing me right. No you don't like enjoy the opposite right. It's completely opposite. People won't more Music Fire Yup the the ramp ramp him look into the crowd and walking is so creepy Sometimes I have to turn my head because I don't want to have nightmares. And then you have the lantern is a man's head guys. Do you hear them saying it's a man's it like. He's got a title belt. That's a image of his face stretched out to where it looks. It's like it's hurting. WHO Like we're getting something that? I hope that it lasts forever like the undertaker. Well you bring up the undertaker. Yeah Mark Sorry. I don't mean to cut you off you bring up the undertaker because we kind of talked about this a few minutes ago to start to show. It's so hard to bring an induced fear her in a world in a universe like wwe because we know what we're watching so you've really got suspend our disbelief. You've really gotta hit us in our chest and they're doing that with Bray Wyatt. I don't I don't know what I'm saying. I don't need to think about got it. There hasn't been anyone since the undertaker. That's been able to do that. He's the first and he's doing it in a real large way. He's doing it in a main event. No disrespect to the BOOGEYMAN. No no disrespect to pop song right. But there's only been a couple people that have been able to take a truly scary gimmick and take that to the main event and do it consistently distantly Bray. Wyatt is one of Michael. You're hearing catch busted open. Live Monday through Saturday from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius Xm Fight Nation Channel One fifty six or with the Sirius. XM APP those get into it as a Gabby cues up the TLC. Obviously pay per view. Go Down in twenty four hours. I T. L. C. tables ladders and chairs mark. I'm GonNa tell you right now. Start with my favorite match or the one that I am most interested in seeing because I'm most it's interesting to see where the story lines branch off and and I'm I'm also interested to see the continuation of this he'll run. The Kabuki warriors are having so I am obviously talking about the Kabuki Kabuki Warriors. Taken on Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flare. I just really like I. I didn't like when the Kabuki warriors debuted mark from the standpoint that I thought lot both both ladies were better suited as solo artists. Prerogative benefited from for better for better phrasing right. I'm a big Oscar Fan and her undefeated streak and I know it came to an end. But we've seen how capable she can be and and The popularity that she can drum up but the work that she's done and the job that these two have done together as heels Oscar and Kyrie Saint it has been extremely enjoyable and mark this match that should highlight the best of all four of of these. It's TLC match. There's going to be a lot of possibilities and we can see. We can just see so. We can see Becky Lynn Charlotte back together and that would be interesting to see where that goes. Because we've seen them feud so much but we know they're backstory in terms of being friends and the way they came up together in annexed. So there's a lot to get to with this match. I'm excited to see how it plays out how you know man. I had a first hand account There were two guys that I played football went Growing up and these guys got into it over a girl and it affected the way we played as a team because they were both focal points on our team. And that's that's kind of how I feel about this whole Charlotte and Beca thing right like when your friends there days where you confide in your friends you tell your friends your weaknesses. You tell your friends your fears you tell them stuff that you you you see coming down the road and you want to share it with them and When that goes awry it creates such a friction? And this like Oh my God. I hope they don't tell any of my business. Are you know what I'm saying like so so is is is the Cana stuff that's real life pain and hatred and I think that I don't think that's going to be resolved Anytime soon. I think that this is something that's going to drag around to Wrestlemainia and Dan. I think that at that point we will have the reconciliation of those two so they can batter battle a greater. You're good and what is that greater good going on right now Buki warriors well right in terms of this weekend. And yes the the Kabuki warriors but if we are building in any brought up an interesting point like right if we're building the WRESTLEMAINIA and the rebounding of Charlotte would flare and Becky Lynch. I do a little bit of a callback here in my memory and it would feel like or suggests to me that maybe we would get that for or four swimming. Matchup of Ronda Rousey. Shane obeys ler and Sheffield Ingestion. Duke Verse Four Horse Women of the main roster. What time when they were teasing that right I could? Maybe that's what we're building towards. Yeah I think so but more so. I think that we're getting. Everybody is looking at the problem that Charlotte and bet. You haven't well of course right like you. You need to have a hug moment like I got your. I'm still your friend and it's US against the world that that story is the one that's got to be more. That's it's gotTa be told more. That's that's what I want as a fan I don't think that that's going to happen at this pay per view. I still think that you know they're still at each other's throats enough Because even last week it was like can can becky Achey get the job done. Where Charlotte failed was the whole premise? Of the fact that they both had matches right Against the Kabuki warriors so bad. That's not going to be resolved anytime soon. I think that that's the meat of their The the relationship between between those two right now and we just had to grin and bear until they get to the The hug moment. Maybe as maybe it's not the the Kabuki warriors that bring them together. Maybe it's somebody else. Who is that going to be right? And I'll tell you what we talk about it the hug moment not what happening in twenty four hours a. TLC I tend to agree. And I tend to agree also from the standpoint mark that well from booking angle right I it. This is the TLC TLC match that that tends to favor the the heels which the heels are the Kabuki warriors. So I feel like they're going to be able to finagle their way out of this and retain the titles I don't know man Even on their best day. The Kabuki Warriors could have problems with Charlotte and Becky at the same time. Even if they're at each other's throats But like you said the Kabuga warriors they work well together. There's no strife there's no turmoil between the two and they work as a machine and Charlotte and Becky. The only way that they're going to beat those women is if they worked together and maybe this is not the pay review. Yeah While another taxi match that we have in with championships on the line. The RAW team championships. Viking raiders are taken on an open open challenge mark. I don't know what we're getting out of this. I think there's the potential maybe the street prophets get sunshine and they get their their placement or they're in there or mark mark we can have a return and that I feel like would benefit the USA does like do you think we could be seeing a new so return you know what man like. Don't tease me with a good time. Man That would be awesome. I didn't even think about it. Look what you just did. You made me smile. I don't know if y'all face but good Lord Bro. You just didn't choose them but I got chills down my arms odd. Look to see who sows return right now. That would that would really do it for me and mark. I think they would look great in the ring together. Just I like the idea of of the Viking raiders in the USA was having a stint feud in it starting in twenty four hours a TLC. Like I liked the idea of that. Wow Bro you oh you got me you just punch me in the throat. Man You gave me. You gave me the proverbial throat patch. Wow Practiced Jab Jab jab throat. What about the other taxi? Matchup got the smackdown tag team championship going on with the new day. Okay and the revival feels like to me. The new day is going to retain especially by one of my favorite moments Last night I don't know if you caught it but dash while they're throwing the shadow machine on the outside. It's not really it's one of those moves feel like Hogan's leg drop like when you do it it's causing more damage to yourself that and you are your opponent. I just got a crack last night. Watch dash while they're take that bump to his back and you can see like I was watching it'd be Kinda got up. He said something to Scotty is like yeah I I did not like that. You could just see the way the way down to do that again. L. Let's let's let's ix nay the outside a I don't know I don't speak pig Latin community it What do you think about the bachelor between day and the revival? I love it. I think that both really really talented tags six The entertainment value that you get from The new day as I just could see biggies sitting on ropes you know bouncing up and down when the when teams come down to the ring and the dance and When they when her in the ring working together both guys can work the start? Both guys can can work the apron. the new day really. It doesn't have a weakness. I think that Dash is is is the guy. That's Kinda mortaring General Wpro and you know like when they when they put themselves in a position to win Nobody does it better as a tag team like you know I. I just love seeing a revival work together like they worked together better than any other tag team in pro wrestling today. And you know we we. We're going to talk about in our weekly winners What went on with Power and what went on with A W and impact and we talked about our age Like I is as a tag act team tag team. Like an old school throwback tag team Like is there anybody else that works as good together as those guys is. I mean it's view or yeah I mean there's there's a level at which they reach the briscoes are up there. You think longevity engevity but I mean when they're on when they are given the time to work I mean their matches against diy. I mean come on. I don't I don't think so. Mark I think you reach a certain level. I mean you reach that nine out of ten ten out of ten level And you and you're there in the revival is proven and another thing that I like about the revival mark is that they they are the revival. They've been the revival that will maybe not by necessarily the exact name but they've been together They they're they're tandem has been together throughout the entirety tired of their tenure at wwe. And I liked that. I liked that. There's some cohesion. There's some consistency there which I don't think is a coincidence. The fact that they're taking on the other are you know stalwart of the tag team division along with you so it's no disrespect to the shows but obviously the new day new new new day and reveal should be outstanding match. I'm definitely looking forward to that bark what about Roussev and Bobby Lashley. What do you think happens with that? Do you think this is GonNa be the end of that. Feud between these two I oh I don't know man I I think that I think that this is something that I want to keep going on because I've got to the point now. That is my soaps. Is My story your stories. That's my jam. I WanNa see you you know Banter about going to jail. I WANNA see Rousseff Have a possible love of interest and like take his mind off like Lana get jealous. Like I mean there's so many other elements when you start thinking about writing a storyline that revolves around a love triangle The you know is is is just as more to go guys. There's there's more stories to be told. Don't take stories. Mark needs a stories stories. If you don't know series. Xm The listen up commercial free music plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But she don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollar just go to Sirius Xm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to new series Xm subscribers Siriusxm. No car required. I want your best show. Oh of the week I'm GonNa tell you mine and you know what it wasn't really it wasn't I don't know if it's the best overall show it would it. It just had the to clear best moments of the week for me and I am talking about annex. t the triple threat between Finn Valor keithly and Tomasso CIAMPA. It was a really really good match just just as far as that goes it was a it was a solid eight out of ten eight and a half if I ten match but more specifically the match of the week which I know. We're not grading just happened to fall on this card angel. Garza unle- rush. I mean that was that was as good as it gets the spots bots were outstanding. The psychology was outstanding. The bill towards Angel Garza being a commodity and WWe continues. Leo Rush. Put him over. I loved that match the rest of annex t show not that strong those two matches incredibly strong an xt gets the nod for me for the weekly winner this week. What say you mark I have the second that I've not agree with everything that is going on with Leo. regionals been publicized Alive but sure the do can work man. And that was one reason why I was so upset. is the potential for his greatness and you can see him evolving. I hope that you know. As a businessman he evolves as much as his talent. Because if that's the case then Leo Russia's going be somebody that we'll be talking about for a long time he's really really good It was so impactful of Angel Gaza and I think that emotions the emotions brought out the best in him and like he really really shining. You talk about sometimes. Depending on how good the two matches are they can lead the entire show. Yes and when you get to the point where you have a mass like the one we had we Leo Rush Andrew Garza and then you go to To the triple threat match to seal the deal I know there was a point when and Fan was in the corner and Keith Lee came up behind him like Giles and A. It was epic epic epic match and it carried that entire show and thus the weekly winner being in x T. And everybody else. If you ain't I you lass so rather than talk about who's number a two and number three guys you all loss in x t is your weekly winner and you're right man you you talk about it. A show does only need a couple of good match right like the cruiserweight title. Then exteriors rate title. Garza rush that was our one hour two was a triple threat. And dammit I don't care about what for else came in between there because I I was I was so I was hung over. I was I was reeling. From the first match. I was still thinking about Garza and rushing e you know what I mean like. I didn't Really Carolina exactly there. I felt like The show move fast and I didn't realize how long the first first match was and how long the last mass they dominated the time in the show I mean you look at it and Even the packages and the entrances You have an hour pretty much of just those two matches. Yeah now I I I do WanNa say because we got cody Rhodes coming up here. In a second he was on busted is an open yesterday. We're going to be hearing from cody coming up here in just a couple minutes. I do WANNA touch on. Aws from this standpoint annex t the two best matches of the week in terms of Mike work work though in terms of promos. At w what. They had first of all Chris. Jericho offering Jon Moxley a spot in the inner circle I I liked that I thought that was supremely well done. I chuckled throughout it. A little bit I thought Moxley was in his element. Chris Jericho just continues to be amazing. I also should mention I got my My My Bottles of bubbly. I got my My order yes. Yes very exciting. I'm not a drinker either. Really me either and You know it wasn't high on my list of priorities but I love the fact that Chris Jericho was able to do that. And Get pat done just for the world of pro wrestling. Yep like we'd transcendent and Always say we because I feel like I'm a part ever steal Our fan base like hands are part of it and is our culture so when we see one one of ours succeed in something we should all get behind it so those that do drink go get you a little bit of the bubbler. I don't drink mark like I am not not frequently. I'm not a big drinker and even so I just felt like it was at the time and place in professional wrestling history I I wanted to support. Awol wanted to support Jericho's ideas. I wanted to support the company. So Yeah I went out there and you know what I'll probably open one of the bottles. They they were very smart they made you have to buy two if they were going to get it shipped out to you so it arrived. I have two of them. Maybe I hi hold onto one and then I opened another one for wrestle kingdom. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe maybe a little bit of the bubbly for Wrestle Kingdom. We'll see we'll see but I love the promo between we Jericho and Moxley and that offer. But more specifically M J F what he is doing at his age and his I know we talk a lot about. He'll work cure and and how difficult it is into to stay consistent that keep that passionate to keep it fresh I The love. I tweeted about this when I I saw. It was a little delayed but the love that. MGM must have for professional wrestling has just got to be nearly undying like to be as dedicated. Indicated is that young man is to his craft and his ability to hold a crowd in the palm of his hand and the way he pauses and the way he works crowd like mark. You can attest to this. He is light years ahead of damn near anyone else. Even his in his age group is category his generation since he is so good at his job yeah definitely in his age group he. He's beyond a shadow of doubt. The Best Promo in the business rustling wise I want to see him. Really get heat on somebody like the have have some kind of a blood feud That is going to attach him to the nation. Also you need to see him him. betrays somebody other than cody. He's got it set up right. He was very setup. So I I think that he needs to befriend somebody else and get somebody else to Kinda half his back and then when he turns on them. Then it's going to be you know. The problem is not everybody else the problem. Is You your snake. You backstab everybody and that you know you. It takes time to build those legacies and he's got a lot of time to do it. He's a young guy and that's what's so exciting. He's this could now. What's he going to be right? Yeah absolutely all right so that was A little bit in terms of what I liked from Awa but as mark said if you ain't I your last and our weekly witter order was at x t this week when you're busting out Angel Garza and Leo Russia. Then that triple threat. I mean I don't know if in Valor and tomato CIAMPA and Keith Lee can do any wrong take you take any mixture of that concoction of those ingredients and you put them in a ring and it's just going to be a license to print money you're hearing catch busted open live live Monday through Saturday from nine. AM to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Fight Nissim Channel One fifty six or on demand with the Sirius Xm APP listen and I remember WCW and wwe. And I remember the Monday night wars. I was literally. I was thirteen years old in Nineteen ninety-six the year before that really kicked off around when it did. I mean that was right in my wheelhouse. It was everything that was toxic. That was view had people and I'm talking like face to face there. There were arguments people isolate people. Straight up did not watch the other show like period whether you're straight. WWE MORE SO for a couple years a lot of people were WCW and it was like yeah giant Middle Finger to wwe at that time right and that was toxic right now I feel like yes. You hear stuff on on twitter but that stuff on twitter gets amplified when you're face to face. Listen the reason eighty w even exists is because pro wrestling fans like everything. Yes I ah they have their feelings about. WWE Mark. But I feel like that's because wwe has the most shows and they've been around the longest right but pro wrestling fans. We know it you go to our it shows you the impact tapings you go to new Japan shows you go to wherever you go. Your regional shows. MFL W. F. S. W. whatever the case may be right Bola. Pwg I mean whatever the case may be you go to your shows and you love it because you love the business. I feel like we're living in a very positive point in pro wrestling history street. Everyone's loving everything and yes. There's some noise on social media but Margaret gives a shit about noise on social media. As far as I'm concerned when I'm with my friends or with I'm with fans and it doesn't doesn't matter if it's wwe shows or W W nothing. People are excited about pro wrestling that pro wrestling right that toxic relationship. I don't see it at least yeah. I don't see it face to face park entry. which is the true reason? Why a W exists? Okay true reason that a w exists is because of people not getting the opportunity that rats fans feel like they deserve and cody the embrace that idea and he put together a network of guys they had the same feeling the bucks company like the wwe they like the big guys big muscles success and they would never get an opportunity to be the tag champions `specially being that they are a more athletic danger driven tag team that it thrives of getting the crowd in the Holy Shit moments the entering and and that's not what the wwe preaches in attacks and everything is unconventional. Then you have a guy like Chris Jericho who feels like you know what. I'm Chris Damn Jericho. I should get a million plus a year two million plus a year. Why am I not getting his money? And this guy that John Kate work half as good as me and this guy came entertain. Nowhere near here is good as me. But it's my job to get him over to bring him up so he can make more money and then I don't get paid like there. There was a lot of factors. They're put this into play. It wasn't just the fact that Tony Kahn is comes from a family of money and love pro wrestling and is good businessman right right right well. I want to invest in wrestling. No he invested in an ideal allergy of the disenfranchised the guy that didn't get the big job a guy that never would get the big. Push the guys that don't look like what The status quo feels feels like they should look like and cody was able to bring all of those people into the same room and say guys. Is I know enough about the business that I can run. This and I could do this and we can all get together and not only will we make more money than we ever made in our careers. But we'll be able to have say-so don't that sound good to you and fans are eating it up because who don't want to support the the the little guy the underdog and when the underdog and the little guy gets a punch in an wobbles the big monster now you have something something now you have this movement of people that was like listen. We might be David. And we're fighting Goliath but what happened to the Goliath we have the moment where we can actually do something to change the business and it already did because US guys again paid more money because the fear of losing them to another company that didn't exist a year ago. Oh so now you got people like You Know Luke Harper who who Luke Harper has somewhere to go. Oh Yeah I mean. He don't necessarily have to go to. Aws Now he can go to Emil W he can. Certainly Japan go to Japan. AAA You you name a place. Yeah he can go somewhere but the vying power our all those other companies this still going to have to pay him more because he's a viable commodity and Awa could have him. You see what I'm saying. People another another list of life another chance at life in Wrestling Ellen at the main event capacity because of the important thing that we talk about number one TV you have to have love network. TV You gotta be able to do it in prime time and you gotTa have pay per views and you gotTa have pay per view used have sponsors. That's willing to put up the cash to be able to pay the major players. Chris Jerko is the major player on that brand right eventually. In this next year there will be somebody's contract. That's GonNa come up and then there's GonNa be a renegotiation process with the WWe and if it don't suit that person in ninety days they will be signing with the a e W and then they will be another franchise guy on that network. I'm not saying that the bad about Dean embrose or any of the other towns Kenya Megan's in the galaxy that lead eighty. W they're really good. They they mean something to the business but as we all know. There is such a thing as a transcendent talent And there are some transcendent talents on the wwe that do not get the play that they deserve and some people are going to bet on themselves. Thank you know what man maybe I won't get into the wwe hall of fame now. Because I'm leaving. Maybe I won't get that the stigma of a true superstar because the true superstars at the W. W.. I mean there's a stigma. This is what I'm saying is a stigma. I'm not saying 'cause I know. The trolls misconstrued my words and they'll make it seem like I'm saying that the only only true superstars or at the wwe. That's not what I'm saying. assholes all you guys and girls out there that take sides in wrestling wrestling meant to enjoy on all fronts. Like you don't have to pick and choose. You have to enjoy it all. Aw so that being said it's GonNa happen eventually and when it does there'll there'll be another spike in a W W W owned that. So what are they gonNA do. Anti up paid at Fhu. ooh Anti Up. That's was that's what it's about. It's about the dollars and it's about longevity in your career if you work for two hundred and fifty days every year that you work shorten your life span as a talent. There's no seasons soon as I don't believe I don't. I don't believe in seasons. I believe in us what you got and give people a month to break okay so the welcome fill up and they can heal up and they can be more productive at their jobs. Awa guys are not working as many mini shows as the. WWe Is you can prolong your career or you can put your nose to the grindstone grasp on make a lot of money right away every day all year long and then you can invest your money and make sure you on ended up on thirty for thirty broke. So which would require for everyone everybody in sports she watched. ESPN's broke. They should watch. It was so many talent not I just. I'm not just talking about wrestling Coven by Football Baseball Golf Marbles tiddlywinks whatever sports you can play and make money at it their own there and I've heard some stores and you know what man like four disclosure. There've been times times where I didn't claim enough on my taxes and IRS would come back and say hey yo you owe us this and when you got to write a check for a f