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Who Is Brandon MarshallWhy Does He Think He Can BEAT Deontay Wilder

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Who Is Brandon MarshallWhy Does He Think He Can BEAT Deontay Wilder

"Podcast is intended for mature audiences. The views and opinions expressed are those of the panelists and do not reflect in any way. Those are the podcast partners. Sponsors or affiliates. Enjoy this is michael buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready. Ed for boxing voice everyday day. I'm hustle and bustle and plus hustle and bustle in pins hustle every day. I'm hustle in every home because at the loop one the window brown dot com adam by that point jan botulism dot com plus fire to stay all night to be best to beat opponents way from the top. I wanna title lot top competition by this guy. Gave the mitigate right now. Because i'm gonna go young trainers to dot com. Tom only field compared your skills to deontay wilder. What did you think when you heard that. And when when are we going to see you on the radio. Well well well can't compare me to the state wild around that liar. Deontay wilder august known for his power. I mean he's a freak athlete. But what i would say is i would challenge the why wilder to to dive a little into the sweet science. And that's where i separate myself from a lot. He's a heavyweights is the sweet science. I've been boxing since i was five years old. I was a baby. I know. I don't know i don't have a winner my bill or laws or not gal day you know. I know how to fight. I know how to box the sweet science. The only thing wow there. I'll africa the opportunity but at the end of the day you know. I know how to fight. I know how to box. I know the sweet science. You know the only thing. Wattage day you know. I know how to fight. I know how to box. I know the sweet science knows the only thing wilder outbox outclass him. If i average that opportunity but at the end of the day you know. I know how to fight. I know how to box. I know the sweet science. You know the only thing wilder outbox him. I might outclass them. If out of the end of the day you know. I know how to fight. I know how to box the sweet science. The only thing. Wow they're gonna outbox outclass him. If i ever get that opportunity then they're only feel compared your skills to deontay wilder. Then they're all feel compared your skills to deontay wilder compared your skills to deontay wilder. What did you think when you heard that. And when you when are we going to see what's going on in the world. What the hell is going on in mainstream media. Man this is. This is the shit did they got on. Espn's i take this. This is what they call boxing. News man this is the issue with our sport man. That's why doesn't grow because they're reporting on all the wrong things. First of all who. The hell is brandon marshall. Someone please tell me. What does he say. Been boxing since he was. He was boxing his life all his life. When what what how you been. Bison oil live between our no ewing on a lost annual. Ain't got no knockouts. I mean i'm a little bit confused him in This so much hatred for this do breath like how are you. Oh in oh. I'm using very poor picture. This screen shotted. From the actual telecast moment so so so so but i wanted to show you. They literally have him on the a side first of all. He's on aleph he. He's on the left guys like they put them on and left in an his record is owen. Oh you understand. I'm just shot. I'm sure that the david. They decided to interview brandon based off these comments. I i don't know why. I don't know who thought that i mean. Who first of all. It's a vendor holyfield's fault right. Vander holyfield's for the i think i think he vander is really the one that needs to be blamed. Vanderhall field compared your skills to deontay wilder why i've interviewed then demand i've interviewed vendor and He just never he never struck me as as a crazy person he he never struck me as a guy that didn't have all his senses there. But i guess. I guess vander might've took too many punches one. Too many punches. Maybe the vivey. Mike tyson Ear-biting was is too much. I don't know but it's a vendors fault that this is happening. He is to be blamed and Really someone needs to Someone needs to talk to him. He should not be saying things like this in the media Because it's it's dumbed down his box in iq. you know. i wouldn't recommend you go train with event holyfield if he really believes that brandon. Marshall is on the level of deontay wilder. Vander only feel compared your skills to deontay wilder. it. I wouldn't recommend you go train with them anymore. You know i mean he needs to come back and say that they took his words out of context because again i've interviewed him and he actually likes the from based off my interview. You know There was a lot of southern. Love their right. You know then being one from alabama the other from georgia. I believe there was a lot of love. This comes out of nowhere so it's not hatred so you have to assume that he genuinely believes that you can compare the skill of brandon marshall who still don't know who the fuck is we. Don't he say since five. I don't know what five years five years old and and and i don't know when where you know this dude is trip. And the fact that the he's on the side of this poster is just disrespect man and this is another reason why you can't stay out the ring. This law man wilder really needs to get back in the ring because this is what mainstream medias reporting on wilder that that that he can't beat some owen. Oh i believe is baseball player. A something football player. Maybe i mean bra and and me you know i always think with the business cat. So it's like should. Should we take this fight. Is this going to cross over you know. Does this guy have mainstream appeal. Is that why. He's the a side on the poster. Is this the reason that he is being talked about on. I take he's being talked about on. I cannot deontay wilder. The is the end of this job. I mean so. Should we take this fight. Yeah i say we. I'm still team wild. Should we take this fight is this is going to build our profile. Is this our exhibition. By what is there. A difference between wilder and brandon marshall and floyd mcgregor or floyd tension or pack cow mcgregor. We're oscar shack. I mean should. Should we take this. Who is brandon marshall. Though you know is he the big show. Is he mcgregor. I don't know. I've never heard of this guy mcgregor. I heard of as much as i don't want to know anything of them. I've heard them. I mean we've been having his. His sound bite has has gone mainstream. For what three years now is that guy. Does brandon have a catchphrase. Does he have a soundbite. Fuck is brandon brandon in cincinnati shit. Oh i don't know brandon. Marshall i just don't i've never seen him play any game in any sport ever and this the first time i mean what what makes them. Many more special than nate robinson. Then nate robinson. Just this mother fucker learned from robinson or which i gonna tell me now. They did did basketball players tougher than baseball players. i'm i'm i'm so lost right here man these dudes. I don't know so so he says it sell to the casuals. Well maybe wilder take then. Is this going to take him next level. I don't know i don't know. Is he going to is it. Going to get is he going to. Is he going to get more hatred if he takes an exhibition fight or is he going to be loved for taking an exhibition fighting and quote unquote growing the sport right. Isn't that how we try to fool ourselves into buying. It is like oh it's going to attract the casual fans. So i wonder i wonder what people really be behind wilder the bronze bomber taking on the bee's that's his name the beasts. Look i'm gonna. I'm gonna go to these callers Because i wanna hear what you guys think i don't. I don't watch baseball and tennis. I've never heard of this. Do okay c. r. Be one says brandon. Marshall has not been. Nfl star and five is so he's cloud chasing this crowd. Jason then in your opinion this chasing. I'm assuming i. I hear you 'cause i never heard of a man especially a man who said he'd been by to see five shit and i interview lamb inches. I got one scheduled on thursday man. I mean sh. i don't get it. I never heard of him. I had earl jamal hair. Y rashy all the whole the whole two thousand twelve. I had him on a box invoice podcasts. Before they turned pro all from london or rio wherever the hell they're olympics was they all skype in. I never heard of brand. He finds his five and shit. I guess finding the stream. And i've been fighting since five. Fuck fifty five years old. Push you and what first grade kindergarten pre k. Where you at at five. I was fighting in. Orland grease man. Should i'm old man when there was actual projects in jersey. I mean forty stories up. Like so i've been fighting. I don't know. I ain't saying brandon from aid from new roads street. I just been fighting on my life. To maybe i in the world class athlete. So that's that that automatically takes me out disa- quesion and he is and that's why his name is the beasts and that's why maybe believes he can beat another world class athlete just outside of his sport. That's the issue right there. Like you know serena. Williams was playing tennis man. I highly doubt she by the coming star. Dunkin on girls you know just saying but i just hated that that this is where while does that man you know. The dude owino like cr says is is out of the limelight. Five years and even he thinks he could beat you man. We need to set this record straight. We need another dominic brazil performance. And it's funny man. This brandon is talking shit. Because i do recall. The other brandon loves to talk shit about wild man. I think he picking charles martin and everything. So i don't know maybe it's a brandon in deontay thing. Those two names maybe don't get along could be schimdt zodiac signs shit going on but his crazy crazy man brandon marshall the bee's cloud jason really fighting it. I don't mind. Cnn's get slept. I had fun watching jake. Paul sleep robinson. And i wasn't expecting robinson gets slack. I didn't think jake. Paul was any better than robinson. Obviously i picked paul and all that stuff and yeah we thought he was better but what i mean is they both on the same level right like a both not boxes trying to be so you know. It's all about who applies better. But but this is different. I think because it's like. Wow does know jake paul. And if you ain't get body by a youtuber why would you think you buy the body by former world champion But i just wanna play to audio again because you know it's just not going off a headline like like this is everything that he said like this is like how he feels like you know. It's funny then they're only feel compared your skills deontay wilder. What did you think when you heard that. And when you when are we gonna see the rain. Well can't compare me to the while around that water. The water obviously we known for his power. I mean he's a freak athlete But what i would say is. I would challenge the walk wilder to to to to dive a little deeper into the sweet science. And that's where i think. I separate myself heavyweight breath first of all going to say that dive deepening into the man's been a professional world champion and he second to ali with title defences auto without leader title defences. You wanna dive into signs. You ain't done shit yet. The sweet science. I've been boxing since i was five years old. And that was the baby. I send me a link motherfucker. Send me a link. no. I haven't seen any on pay per view. No i don't have a win under my belt the waas or knockout of but at the end of the day you know i know how to fight. I know how to box the sweet science. The only thing wow. They're outbox him out. If i ever get that opportunity yo. Dan i swear man i swear man. Listen listen wow the needs to get back up in that ring and do what he needs to do. I mean he's got to get back up in that ring man he's got to get back up in that ring. You got you got. You can't let you can't let you can't allow this to be what is the perception of you man. Did anybody thinks they can beat you now. And people what he's doing he saying. Oh dive into the sweet science. Like i'm going to outbox him so he's obviously going based off while performances with fury. He believes he can outbox him. Now now he believes not only the. Wow the is beatable. But the data that he's also on the level of fury because fear is the only one to do. Fear is the only one to do it. You you talk to me about spilka having success and in this one having success success in boxing is when you hang his raise you do not win because you want some rounds. Don't get me wrong. There are moral victories. and there are financial victories. You know May donna one. Four rounds and those rounds were enough for him to retire in argentina. Diego chavez is a guy that i bring up all my life and he he won a few rounds vs keith thurman and and that was enough to make him a recognizable name. I mean but it doesn't make you a world beater man. I don't know this shit right here. You know Shutout the justin biggs and big times promotion. They do something called the call out. And it's only four professional fighters right so it's like to professional fighters that have a beef. And they they like gary russell debit haney perfect example. Gary and haney got a beef. They could get the contract right. Go to the call out is going to be for some money. They going to get it in in in a local gym is going to be stream. You know all that and they still get paid and they get it off and it was only a session. That's that's they concept. I ain't trying to sell it. I'm telling you what it is. Because referenced it you know wars till i die But but but. But i like it. I wouldn't mind on. I mean. I guess obviously as a fight fan i would be upset if devon fucking gary ford on a call out with headgear versus no headgear but for dudes that are not devon and gary right like for dudes like no man does not a levels not a level eight lists man people that did the call out. That's a good concept that being said. C r b. One with another supervisor. Says marshall won't last two rounds with michael polite cafe out the michael polite coffee and all the love these receive in you know as much as they hate on me. There's a lotta people by the introduced. And he is one of them and so far so good man so far so good. I've actually Gonna go see him. Now that i'm in the big What is this considered. Not the boot right. I think it is the book. But now that i'm the sunshine state. I'm actually going to go see him. we were talking yesterday and he's taken a week and three days off so that's ten days and then then he's back in june so i'll probably head on out there with one of my v floridian crew and and i'm definitely spawn. Oh that's right now force. Though i'm i'm gonna tell him from the door. I'm forty plus work with me. Let's get views. Let me let me get on out to yard man. I'm hustle in this. Probably not a topic for everyone. But i'm still a fan and You know the disrespect is at an all time high. The only one deontay well. Let's go out to the sponsors and we're gonna go out to the college number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time and what i want to hear from. You is is brandon. Marshall and why does he think he could be deontay wilder. And would you buy this exhibition fights since twenty. Twenty one and twenty twenty has been the year Of exhibitions talk to us. Man subscribe to youtube dot com slash. The boxing voice for the latest and greatest interviews with favorite fighters. Remember to rightous five stars on itunes. These calls are brought to you by el camino electrical services experts electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation. Visit us at el camino electrical services dot com. All right all right all right. Let me see who's on the line. Maybe lids low was. There was vigorous. We're going to wisconsin adrienne woods. Good adrian you fight or your model man my man. You won't be you better. Not posed. No pictures of uspto's i getting awfully naked on your g man main now. Worry about what i'm born was you're talking about. I'm just saying man. I thought i was following a fighter. All i see you as posing in the mirror man you get into wrapped up in the by with shadow boxing with a bag work. I see you pay two new ryan garcia. Tbb abercrombie and fitch dill lagaan. even nagata. Even pretty how the fuck do that. you know what. i'm saying. Sit still there. Of course of course flows yours man. So dora aso stuff but aso when i sold i so just noted i was in a gym listening to your whole show. I didn't put my three and a half to four hours at training today. Bag work shadow boxing. All of that. okay. I don't i don't slack off but i ain't gonna show you everything i'm doing either. You know we we build it up. I sat eight minutes of footage. You know what i'm saying in worry you'll get more as we progress through But on on on the subject Look like that. It's just a product that actually doing the fuck and training. Unlike some people. I see who come to border wars and don't give the one hundred ten percent effort. You know what i'm saying like that's me with what six weeks left. I'm on weight. I'm ready. I'm just saying i'm on week. You ain't gotta worry about me. I'm coming ready and prepared. I sparked three times a week. But i ain't gonna show that footage every week. Not going to everything i do. But on the subject man what is wrong with these exhibitions man. Like i don't understand why these x. Pro athletes in these dudes are the sport just because they're athletic seem to think that they can come box. You know what. I mean like i get football's violent but it is not the hurt business. This dude will end up like nate robinson times. Ten going to take one shot fucking die so how understand why. These dudes is out. You're trying trying to get these checks. I mean they gonna take some real damage to already have not. That's my calling. Don't follow him but any other Baseball fans notice guy. Let us know as he took an fastball to the noggin and have e. or something that's what he's saying. I dunno ho- maryland. What up what's going on brother. Hey thank you but outside of you. that while of getting a crummy ended stick man last year and Can you hear me i. Okay yeah. I i don't know what it might doing my man that way. You know even when he fired the train right. If i destroyed. But not knowing what he's supposed to be you know when he told them to do and That got like so publicizing such a big deal but the now the left can produce trainer because he made more money and they make no big deal out of that but roughly making it for a while. then you'd have some no name. somebody comes he can beat them. I mean it's crazy man straight down. I don't understand is quite ready. Don't get all right. Well supermax with the super tat says football players. Look up areola mitchell. I actually watch that. Fight love yea man Bodie seth and lv sluggish says. Wow the one in the body on his. This is it. Lv why the hell did you. And i think the same thing to this date Others die cena's headline and all i can say. Is this do really trying to be that body that wild because komo mandla a even if you are allowed to hater right look at me. Look even if you dislike wild even think he's not skilled right. Spilka has had training all his life right. Brazil has that training not all his life because he was another. What baseball player football player. But he's had enough training to get you know he got in he got in To see he got into the olympics. Right signed alley aiming at this point. That's huge at this point. I if you're good enough to get signed by how you doing something right. I think you know you're doing something right. That being said that is not marshall. Marshall was in brazil or or or spiel or fuck luis or he's he is not so he can get hurt. These men these men. They have training rolling. Paul luis ortiz has years. I mean he is the best example of the mall because of all the amateur fights because of the way we know how cuba is how how how how he his school is boxing like he goes to school. And that's the curriculum unlike america. We don't have fucking our gym class. Doesn't have boxing has baseball. You got all that other shit in high school. you don't have boxing ano- So i i just don't get this coming out of nowhere thinking he's going to do anything to a professional athlete. Let alone historic one of the historically one of the big punches in the sport and tied to mohammad-ali title defenses. And then it's beyond that because it's also the way he knocks people out so it's crazy how one can have the world world again. I say the world right. Because i could see a fighter actual boxer. Who's been boxin. I could see. Michael hunter saying this and not getting as upset as brandon marshall because hunters been boxing. That's his thing. He's a boxer. He did pretty well with ucla. And he's developing so. I won't be mad at him. But this motherfucker comes out of nowhere without a fight man while they need to jump on. This is smacky up especially for some money. It ain't gonna be for free. Smack him up. You got to make you got to make a statement you got to like. This is again to is disrespectful. I'm just saying to me. It's disrespectful. But i could be wrong. I could be wrong. We go find out now man. Let's see these brandon stick together another time zone remind complaint some lifestyle brigadier at nine slap. The white happens. My wife was on any just to correct the marcelo's and a baseball player. He's require football players even the pro bowl receiver. Civic duty was also like his size. It's tough because he's like six five twenty five to thirty two size of but he'd be out of mental health. They see off the field stuff of like ron test of football. Just as he lo takes up so he is kind of crazy. I know he takes medicine. He's gotta realize to personality stuff so he is crazy but as far as the fights. Yeah he gets nate robinson. He doesn't stand a chance. Here's mark dantonio. I'm going to say anything. Feed him and six hoping to steals water. What the hell he got power. I just try to united states keeping said as a this so yeah all this maybe with somebody like sky your spurs so. Let's see how he looks at your sky years. We can see if you can get in there with somebody else before he fights. That's my call. I like random marks clip auclair. But he he's crazy shit in florida. Coonass oh you orlando area. So three courtesy asean because for steals else. That's my amen. That'll be good for the chen. Tell you that. I mean he looks in shape. You know muscular. But he is not tyson fury and i am not the anti. Wow the so yeah. Maybe he can do well with me but he ain't onto well while the straight right. The night coach j. mac. You hate what you feel back quarter break when i say two weeks down. It's just combat. This only take a minute and not as passive Jay acted as far the kid. Oh good all right. I might be in and out. I'm in between the mountains right now. Oh now i'm has kind of comical need to take hold of. It is and get a hold of this install making them snippets of it like a chart murphy snipping winnie laughing all. He needs some milk right to do is very comical and i sound a little off his rock issue. I actually get to you man. Then tom mcdougall get out here and say some stuff you saying you got a question. His sanity man like to do has no evidence to back it up and i guess we can say we don't know him like I i i met somebody that wanted me to trade him at teaching the basics and then they turn around they won't fight clovers to shoes has told the lab. It's like are you serious like like you talk about the extra professional fighter. And what have you. And she was dead serious so they got people out there that it is believed they so and like got same as is kind of comical. How some people. Just disrespect the sport of boxing. Nee robinson ain't the were man like apple minority youth and be big if you dig it enduring win them and what with us my call man. Yeah man that's how i feel. I think disrespect. I can't take it any other way. But disrespect to think that you can beat the former world champion as as dangerous as wild as run was a trip trip but coach midday work already six hours from three minutes. Damn nine o'clock for yours or ready sheesh should day goes by fast for bro. I mean. I guess not. I guess it goes like everyone else's and it's just fast with us because we still sleep unified heavyweight champion of the because off. We're serious you on. Who terrible terrible making straight. So you train obey train obeying james. Benita j. t. James would up yo. Eighty s man. I'm here for the man i would love to see. While the guy did all driven his head off the canvas man like how jake. Paul did nate robinson man. It's blatant disrespect for the sport man. Like how j. maxx said You know my and also brandon is right man like the seat. Cte man he has maria mental shit going on. But you know. I'll think nobody and also agree with you. Nobody should be trying to wear vanderhall the field. He popping their heads up like that. Avandia need to get checked for this one. Somebody fact check. This is all right. I leave his gym man like career. You them you know. We'll take like that and then z. Picks it up avenger better. He she needs to be ashamed of himself. Man look i swear if if they really do throw while the offer at the table just you just take you man and just make example man like l. visa man. This could be his body. He was looking for a man. Man you're going to die the brink can't i can't believe that does dude would know how to block punches for from that level of a fighter if you will never been in your own. No i don't even give you been training you been trimming five. You ain't never been in a fight. We we all know those shit man. And i'll be i'll be afford recommend any man. That's not a professional fighter heavyweight the even take a strike right from wilder man. Were we all know that lewis. Tease did that. Like a chance to you. See my body looked his face. Look like like i sent you. A little cash. May going to be doing all types of fun shit like juve moves and everything like. Hey dave got their man. But that's my call. Thanks for the content is always man for sure chant. Jt new orleans you on this one. J. t. j. t. and new bone vi- king boy. You want us one for the position like that. Then you know they'll give it a boss show ness you hear me man. I'm gonna give you to run down man. i'm in texas. Drop my trailer. I come here. My chart take metrology air. Before that i was at the of medical. I'm six three to ten good. I'm good man. Yo we not your brand in his bipolar he. I don't know that man. He's a play for the new york jets. Less may don't like the smell this. He can't be hand polite coffee. You're next. I mean you got beef man with the mining rock. You sell it to us. Man like hotcakes. What's up man. I sold you grounded as well now door with the money rock. Yo he'd nice man. Let let let you man brandon marshall expert for play four-time. Bro bowl play. That was diagnosed. Bob poland two thousand twelve getting the ring with a mining rock or or mike polite. Coffee coffee is good for your may gust stimulus may get your heart health. You may or may even feed into their shit man. Don't don't show no light to this. May cities whack ocher damning galactic corn. That's brandon marshall is. That's very holyfield is come on may do at c. t. bugged out they won't dust or some shit fuck you disrespect and say wow wild like that man. They did disrespecting boxing yards corning man. 'cause you let these youtube religious live. I told you that shit next. What some youtube guide. Everybody thinks they boxed in them. I said but that's what i'm saying. I mean everybody else cashing in on a on a on a exhibition worldwide. Why can't wilder this. What i'm saying fucking catch your body may get your neighbor opposite. Omit flat flattened. His dude is all good. Get that check. Get that exposure. I mean that's what thrilla they do. Jake paul on air with with you know while the rain four minutes to i mean not that i think he might not even train for brandon brandon. I about the be body. Liz ahead is somebody's cornfield. Posing as a scarecrow man. I mean he yla but to each his own to be ex. You iraqi you rocking and rolling. What was good with. Get congrats on your place broke. Yeah yeah man. Yeah i say look while the get his Cash on the distant with your ain't happening or whatever. It is do talking crazy. But i know we are going to get back because he will not come out with the same. Move us one on the One of the girls or they are car girls and on his own managers shit which was squad right on right. What else we got to Looking like steve in chicago. What mckay town. Hey daddy doll gives farmers dot com. No steve dance. Tv said no. I talked about this garbage. I hear you man. I who we got then is going to greatness. What up you win. You wonder trade shit greatness all right Swin orlando would up shit you unless you want to get him. He muted again Y'all don't disrespect is fucking ridiculous. Those incredible role these youtubers and these fucking athletes. And never i mean. I don't know if he balked his life. But like you always crazy is ridiculous man. it's like a fly. Picking up a board china mike. So we're gonna king grew through a childhood to fight. This shit is fucking ridiculous bro. I leave understand this shit man. This shit got up union. Take dude you need not with brian quake but the didn't keep going on and if you're gonna be out professional ridiculous loan if you want to a body on his younger said gonna be body on his criminal record them in jail after that shit row. Mycole swear. Thanks for calling in. We're going out to william and seattle. Is he really sleep. Is that z sleep. Was that like he trolling us. Maybe the topic put him to sleep. I get it. I did it air by saying i should fight him. I got a consult with my consultancy coach media. Now i gotta let me know. Maybe now a few other people's i need to. I need to have the consultation with matt but lv slugger what up they would say. No data russi comino a man brandon land like he ended his not like he just talked for clout. Will you know what. I'm saying like this. My really believe like i watch his first banks. I show he'd be on in the morning like when the co host clowning him and tell him. Don't do this like you can't eat. literally begin. May like you really believe he can beat down. Say well this ain't him doing for out same like he really believed but i mean like they saying you know he he has he picked up by police for like you know what i'm saying. He's on the way got grown on he. He'll need to take this light and like this. This the body tomo. He wanted by his rankled. Dust is it like this will be buddy on his record like literally like no this thing. Nate robinson was bad. There's gonna be ten times worse than ten times would attend. You may really. I've who ever wanted next opponent is because i'm betting on a surge. Lanarkshire won't furious late next week. If we don't get in he fight a mind. I'm telling. I'm been on a third round knockout gathering. The next they they really didn't as making in saint been quiet hotel time and this would they do they. They just shot down play his name and stuff so i really just whoever going to be. We'll bring the next opponent this. This is going to be bad whoever flight while the next day. But your brand trip. Man like heathrow. But i do feel like this would be a bit the light to get here. He'll be big. Nfl the biggest sport in the us. So you know what. I'm saying. Like build courage i mean. Is it acceptable though for like as the next submission is brandon that popular enough to do an exhibition. Crossover vent right but Crazy man crazy this the only sport where everybody thinks they can do it. I guess not right. 'cause everybody got hoop dreams. Oh no man. I look it would be. I seen somebody else say. They'd oh alex jones. I think he says that while the need to accept the fight sleep on just to show these. These pundits that that sit here talking box that you can talk. You can say what you see from the outside inside. It's is totally different man. It's totally different just punching pads man. Somebody's guys need to do that. But i know he's actually training this guy right According of anto nez. Gto instagram twitter. Man we out catches on the next one man. This was who we gotta win. Three one three is that jonathan. No my had the double check has been a minute since he called them. Definitely not jaded. New carla definitely a new call online leads do. Is this brandon marshall. louis. Craig looks Now muslim chilling way. This ain't you ain't you ain't professional boxer craig lewis right progressional boxer curricular say well yes sir man you look you know you love my memory right. Everybody else ain't no. I ain't even had your number what's going on how are you. I'm going pretty good. Mandatory training new york right now. Shit well thank you for calling in man pledges all hours. How are you. I'm pretty sure man this kind of way. We're starting to come up and everything but like you know. I'm not really disrespect on the sport. Either we got out here. That's clinton is working for years and opportunities as gospel on record is disrespectful with him. We put our lives on the line for the sport and attain. You people guys get paid four hundred dollars round fight and you got guys coming in making millions on their pro debut on on man. It's ridiculous definitely definitely from ask standpoint. I it's an issue you're right. There's there's so many people putting in work but this sport is in attainment so you you're worth your your value is in is in that is would do you bring to the table. You talk all ibn name like you've got a guy up from another sports people. Don't come crossover going to bring fans. Don't bring money. I get that. It is an italian but it's awesome. What is more entertainment to people like me. You know for sure is a lifestyle. I know i know it is so you were in new york right now. Would you train in. Will you prepare for something for yourself or are you can't with on my calendar. Someone opened liberty disabled. I'm trying to get ready but it'd be more home soon. Did you say oh. No no no sign. I don welcome libertysafe chance. So i'm getting somebody ready for quite and get myself ready for anything that might come away is nice. Nice damn so you in What part of new york bycatch skew. Oh you upstate. Catch go up to about twenty feet of snow here right take. That must be tough roll. Work switched to inside. Or you're still running in that cold man running a cold red new here. I'll offer michigan. So i'm used to it now. I got the detroit number. Yeah oh. I'm just trying to who the hell trains and cast skills man. You got me over here. Trying to decipher the message. Fill like moses when he was getting them tank commanders right now trying to figure out what's being told me man city new york city heavyweight. I never heard a big baby going at deep. No i got anything coming up All he got right now is a complete this six months vodka. Then he'll get six months knocked off his sentence. He got two years to do. He ain't good for nothing for another two years or eighteen months whatever come. I depend dependent on his on on completing a program. He got to complete the program to shave time off. Okay yeah i know about that but you know man when i would never do decide to fight ibn camp. So would you as a former spa on uh of his. What do you think went wrong in that last fight man. She writes me. That's all of them. Say i'm kind of wondering conspiracy theories keep my mouth closed on our no you know and then let right fine but do you think did you think when you when you say you the conspiracy or you with the conspiracy up to the gloves or you. Will everything like the water. The gloves the trainer. I say not the training but Everything the possibility to me. You know i'm not cross minor. Pay anything like it's it's all possible to me. I think weird to the happy when last year black history month he come all black and powerful and everything. Then oh man. There's so many experienced in my head with that. I'm the same water. He didn't look like something was a. And you Just i ain't never seen. I never seen that way shocked. They're buddies but this last one. I i was there but i forget where you did. The last can okay. Okay i was there for week in came back and i came back week with burt. Did we miss each other or something. We okay because i know did college student just you know. I don't know which one it was. I know interviews on less. But yeah i remember that voice though man craig lewis what craig man i wanna thank you obviously for calling in man. Listen man you know tax me man you know. Once you at liberty to say was going on Let's get you on the show officially get your interview man. Let me know what's going on. I yeah going to find number. I just called No hit me up on our. Jiro cookouts actually my number. You should have it though. I think i got chores. Let me hit you. Because i know you. I'll go through phones like crazy. We got mine hit me. I got the You still got my instagram should be like see underscore louis by the way fuck linked to we get off clothes so make sure. I got on the box voice. Okay yeah i got that arnold they have ladies and gentlemen craig lewis. That was interesting Always good to have -fession fighters checking out the showman lovin. It stick talk box in what up going on. We talked about water. Marshall yes we on all that. I got a recipe for chicken marsala to die for nigger. That's my co owner of chicken. Marsala is brandon in a pot. He needed to get slept for his comments. Man us while the fanzine happening in florida he got robbed force call yet last show bit and he bothered you king. Who was the guest right. It was bill. Bill stopped day. Matt give excellent destructions over there to keep the dream you every young man bill. Haney jack boy. Mccall like that last time. Oh boy i just jumped all right now so i. I'm not sure what the topic to. This show is stick talk. Wilder versus who brandon marshall's baseball player old brandon marshall baseball. You mean the football player who i received him. Oh my bad. I thought he was a shortstop. Now you wanna played wide receiver from not not yet. Watch a wildly. What is where did this. Come from with extra while brandon. Marshall ain't even those who let's all tissues and stuff. Nfl series keep bringing at a. Don't plan league. No because he got like mental health issues man. I tell about fighting wilder. John baker acted out here. He been training nothing Old i got to see some footage. Mass underfoot is man necessarily sunday footage. What's it aint backing them. Check it out. Then they're only field compared your skills to deontay wilder. What did you think that vanderhall skills to wilder minute man. That's crazy this. What i'm saying. See i laughed at a van. Do some need to knock on vendors door. Make sure he's alright. He ain't got no fever. Make sure he's good man you gotta make sure he's good. He's saying crazy shit like this on thursday. I'm gonna introduce you add to that that crews away man guess what to his work man. One day is gonna come full circle. I was trying to get that crews away amateur that i met in tampa sparring with branding layton. You see. i don't know if i seen. But i mean of course. You didn't see i do all that so you ain't got to do it. You just go to work. And listen to me but Branding glade posted on his social media that he was looking for a he willing to pay and he put he put the phone numbers of his coaches up on social media. I mean my man is. He's beyond hungry that dude's a dog. But i don't know if that's good thing bad thing that that much dog you know. 'cause we all know brandon blatant for anybody. Can't remember the story you know. They spa hard hard hard hard. You know what i'm saying. But this cruise away he i he i he eighteen. No and let me tell you man. I don't get many pro- Many amateurs on his show let let alone eighteen. No i may fuck hundred and twenty amit suffice olympian but you know what's the last amateur we had on the show keyshawn right who is supposed to turn and now he not because he going olympics so maybe troy eisley before he turned pro. We had a. Maybe i don't know but you know we don't do eighteen. No this kid got it. I want to give them that love right now to make sure that he stays on track. You know what i mean. 'cause you know how this game is man Look i can't even remember his name but he just came home. You know we had a real good amateur in jersey. He got bag man. He got back. I didn't even know. I stopped seeing all the posts and then i start seeing. Oh welcome home. Welcome home and his like damn he should have been pro right. Did he trained right. I mean i know his name better than me. I only know his is like street. Name is shit but he trained He was in the same. Like you spot you know he. He chicago all of them. They know him he was did. He was one of the biggest best looking off because they had in that olympics. Team in the jo jo maso kid on Give them some some flowers right now. Let them realize that he's got it. He fucking got it and if he keeps doing it you know what i'm saying. He could be a pro easy and and they don't do that. I mean they're going to the nationals. Or whatever they trying to get the trying to get more nationals on the day belt. 'cause obviously you wanna you wanna turn pro and get a good sign bonus. Oh shit you what that's crazy. Big nick said keyshawn pro and sign with match room so so i gotta check his social media so he's not with james prince but the the what the what the yet. But we'll get tyler on later and It'll be thursday. I'm gonna get tyler on. We also got somebody else on thursday bigger name on thursday morning earlier we load it. Oh shit thursday. At two thirty. We're going to have a key thurman just confirmed that to glad keefe. I know i know he always one. So we'll get that and friday at Three o'clock we got terrorist by crawford. Yeah those are the good old days. I used to curse eight ida. Shit y'all nez. Gto instagram sorta catch assorted. Next one i get the oh shit lids low you game in his show up. Chant leads low. Hit me with this information. Still want to thank them. Rang talked com v. Was what up man. Thanks for the house No allen. I let i'm up in north carolina. Man my dollar and sitting there looking at tv and i saw this shit i say. Oh i says paul directly even take a pitch. He dude re Yes i say. It'd take their look at. Everybody will open their mouth about this. Sport gone shut. It ain't with your thank. If y'all think that nate thing was a joke to find out again if by stuff and i do understand he got milton issue so somebody might want to sit down and talk it. what it is. Shot there by shot. shot body. I'm out man. Shot out and thank you for calling in Let's see let's see. Let's see l. v. we went to you utah. We talked about the bodies. he said. Body body body dividian buffalo false. That's and we know us donor to sell the you've been doing shows for i. Twenty four seven so. Yeah i mean. I used to light brandon marshall. He's a pretty good receipt. Here's a decent physical receiver but boxing against the onta- Let let it get kale. Share you for sure. What scored on his head. He's superman but you know out to get baptized. But that's my car greg. Show it's funny. What a coincidence dude. I'm telling you about just went. Live on the he and jim you up and down so i can't do nothing about that but that's him right did and it's crazy. I can't I can't pull up his while. He live okay now. We go see if he got his name. See we need to interview him. He don't even got his name. How can i tell you who he is. If he ain't got his name unbelievable man but this kid he was next. Look at them right here. With vito he was next up. Got back man just caihong couple of days ago he right here. In this chino's jim return. And farmer to farmer. Jim ryan that das- conwell system right here so i'm telling you he all these dudes no humber. He's next up. Hopefully he don't go back and he stays out the him. Veto hit somebody going to see him and key. Sean right here on time out in the what happened. So i can't really say look at my old man Jersey boys because now jersey. Boys ain't no more jersey boys now that veto malecki. Jim has dab bought it. This let's see is pad works. Which i think one thighs arms the longest fuck. I wonder what the vision is this kind of thin in the not then but he too thick and the shoulders or the arms so look crews away. But i could be mistaken. I thought the kid that i'm bringing on thursday was one seventy five one seventy eight my message to a one. I'm like what the fuck you only six wine may. Then i start thinking well to beatty. Tito's all dues is around the only one that's real tall is A while really fuck wit was his name fake heavyweight but yeah man this the dude. I wish i could give his name again. Nothing nothing is more powerful right here with the vest on jab sound like at a bus mini facing y'all f- meeting have a lot of success in his jim ryan many sparta. A two time. Olympian was his name. Wellington romero media tied them though after mid-east bottom he never spotted again. He hurt his back in session and his all mid-east kid would have been. He was signed to the ride. But y'all i would never sparring this headgear. Why this thing. Headgear was action. Gary about these amateurs is crazy man. I spun in that man. I'm fighting you in that for competition. I ain't spawning but i get them. They get used to the pervert view of it now rather than later. But that's how you get. That nose broke just saying nasty. Te'o instagram or twitter catches on an excellent piece.

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NFL Week 4: Patriots/Chiefs, Cowboys/Browns, Drawing A Blank, Kyrie + KD + LeBron

First Things First

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NFL Week 4: Patriots/Chiefs, Cowboys/Browns, Drawing A Blank, Kyrie + KD + LeBron

"Good. Friday morning everyone. Welcome to first things first general along side Nick. Rhyme. Brandon Marshall Kevin Wild Kevin when you so happy about today. And I was like I'm to be happy. Someone's home. You took it a notch out from your normal face. Sure. Be about the biggest. All look we got so many great things happening this weekend we're GONNA jam show we're going to get right when we got Lakers tonight, we got this weekend we're going to start with one of the more key matchups of the weekend. ANC showdown Patriots Chase at Arrowhead first time longtime Andy Riedel gave land for a patriots team that does not have Tom Brady under center still won't be easy though Cam Newton presents. Let's pull it in different kind of challenge. The Guy can throw the guy can also run meanwhile chiefs dominating on all fronts lately, coming off a big win over the ravens the team many thaw. Their biggest challenger in the AFC with that it is time for Brandon's keys to the Game Brandon Marshall. And the Patriots Leave Kansas City with an upset win take through it. Yeah, I mean this is a big challenge for the Patriots and if they WANNA win they to hone in on three things. The first thing they gotta do is they have to attack this chiefs run d the soft spot on his defense is the linebacker core. there. So you can attack them there. Josh mcdaniels is brilliant at exploiting the defenses weak spots last week against the raiders who saw him take advantage of the perimeter runs expect him to really hone in on a power run offense this week the second key to victory. You have to, you absolutely have to protect Cam Cam Newton has to be upright. This offense hasn't been challenged all year because they've done amazing job of running the ball and building off of play action. So they haven't been able to go against a defense align that was fast because it slow they were slowed down by the run game in the play action. So keep up right if you WANNA have the chance and the last thing most important thing every quarterback there creek they're creatures of comfort keep this guy in the pocket Patrick Mahomes you have to contain him. If you don't, it's going to be a long night. You can just say night night and go to bed early. Okay. So you've got to keep this guy in the pocket something interesting happened in two thousand and ten. When coach McCain's was leading our team one day he walked into our our team meeting room and he said guys, here's the game plan we're playing against Tom. Brady. These quarterbacks are creatures of habit you gotta get them off their spot Tom Brady's most comfortable spot on the field is six and a half yours deep behind the center. So everything we're going to do is one of the crash that pocket and get him outside of Patrick Mahomes if he's outside of it, he will absolutely crush you. So those are the three keys, the victory if you WANNA. Win for the Patriots. Brandon those are all great and I'm not one to criticize you. But you forgot I think the most obvious in the most important one, which is pray. I think they should pray. Pray A lot. Maybe hold. Mahomes takes the day off and that might be the most important thing they can do now as far as. As far as addressing your actual point, you really on the run defense could be even more weakened if i Jones doesn't play. He's the most notable names, run the chiefs that could that could help the Patriots for your first and your second. Key which was productive Newton and attack the chiefs run defense. He's the best defensive players, their best pass rusher, and he also helps stabilize what is it? What is a week run defense and so? That is a key Andrew to watch did practice yesterday, but he was limited. He's the most notable chief that could miss this game side from luxurious need their rookie corner who's got broken collarbone, and we know he's not going to play the other thing I would add in seriousness aside from brain is I. Think this is a four down game for the New England patriots I think fourth in less than three particularly with cam at quarterback they need to be going for it and I think that once they get inside wilds, the twenty, five yard line, no field goals I don't eat scoring three pointing US Israel is not GonNa do you any? Baltimore I think very foolishly in the Monday night game on their first drive drive down the field. Then have a fourth in three inside the ten Baltimore historically aggressive down team took the points and they should know I. Don't know if that would have changed that game, but they shouldn't have so wild. On the seriousness brandon. Skis are great I think Chris Jones is wildly important to two of them and I think you guys need to be gone for four thousands. I agree. But look I'll give you general. I'll give you a prediction which is that Monday morning Nick Right will be wearing a Cam Newton Jersey from this bet and nick we haven't really posed in stone yet, but if you'd like to make that. You're wearing in New Jersey or Got Another prop coming I've asked my family to bring down if you also like to wear a different Jersey that I will be debuting later on in the show are you willing to have that bet for Monday? If the Patriots the chiefs I will wear a Cam Newton. Jersey on this show. Not going to wear. Settlement rehearsing that your family is going downstairs. There's no. Way. Whenever we're talking about the game whenever we're talking about chiefs, Patriots all wear the CAM New Jersey, it'll be. Wearing it workout melt the NBA finals. And by the way. It can be it can be a free role for this L. confidently I'm Gina you risk nothing if the chiefs win. Just wear your normal outfit you sure poof to the way it normally is you risk nothing I will risk the Cam Newton Jersey. I'm going to have to go back I'm going to have to hope it still at the. Door. Off after you send it to me but I'll find why don't. Like it. If the chiefs win go hit the chiefs win maybe he doesn't talk talk about the Patriots for week he can't say. Julian Edelman Week. It has to be something on the other side. I'm not GonNa lie knows going to have to. Massive favorites fair. Jenna. Area SNUS. Brandon let me ask you is. Is it possible that we could look at this game and say Oh that was when the torch was officially passed from one dynasty to the next can we see such a discrepancy in style of play hang on Wilde's I just want to ask is it possible that this is one of those games were we could say, oh, that's when it happened. That's when we saw the changing the passing the baton. I don't think. So I know a lot of people think it's already happened. But when you look at the Patriots and what they have done the last twenty years. I mean, it's remarkable I mean they have to win to two super bowls to be able to have this conversation. So I'm wanting to say this has this conversation to shouldn't happen until it's like until they win number to pay look at the patron. Is there a dynasty there dynasty the? Leaving Don Mattis all of a sudden three six I guess. All right. Sure. Okay Go ahead burn it. Go No agenda San is it's times like, is it time to pass and I don't think. So I'm on your side here buddy wear. So much more to dethrone to dethrone the Patriots like we we make with the painters have done over the last twenty years is remarkable because it's hard to win the Super Bowl think about the packers they have for a long time. They had the best quarterback in football on Air Rogers that they get it done. No you can go to Seattle seahawks the Legion of boom and when Russell Wilson his first three years they went to they went to two super bowls in three years we're had done the last five six years so it's extremely hard to do this. Now do they have the make-up profile to do it? Yes, but it's going to be hard. And Wild I also don't think that this can be the torch passing the torch passing had to involve Tom Brady playing quarterback for the Patriots, and unfortunately for everyone involved, he threw the torch to Logan, Ryan, who returned it for a touchdown to end his career with the Patriots so the chiefs couldn't take it from him. He was trying to get into the. Logan Ryan. It was big six. Torches search. Window on the passing. All right pictures. To that there's another game we're looking forward to another highly anticipated matchup this one Baker in the Browns Jack and the cowboys we'll break it down next first things first. Think we'll be watching Brown's cowboys with a close eye on the two quarterbacks here faker versus depth thrown for four hundred, fifty yards in back to back games. memo. Bakers led the browns to a winning record for the first time since twenty fourteen but don't get too caught up in Dak versus Baker. Here's why. Great player ton. Tremendous amount of respect for him leader in the person is but. When it comes down to it we're playing the cowboys defense. And Do whatever it takes to win, and if that is a shootout then great. Control clock. We'll do that. So whatever it takes. Brandon do you think Baker should be aiming for a shootout against that? Prescott. In the cowboys on Sunday? Absolutely not no bakers not that guy you know he's not the guy is going to sit in the pocket and spread it around go through his progression. He showed us week to who they are and what they do best, and is not a knock on him but sometimes, you just got to play your role. This is a team that has two of the premier running backs in the league and job hunt run the ball, and then lean on the play. Action we saw this week to and then occasionally take some timely shots to Odell third down, you have landry who can get open versus any coverage. That's who you are. If you get in a shootout with that Prescott who's averaging what four hundred something yards a game, you will lose this game that is not what you want. Now this Cleveland team, they have what it takes to get the job done this week, but it's not going to be during the shootout. Burned in eight years world push back on it it has to depend on who the opponent is and the cowboys are going to score points and the cowboys secondary is going to be susceptible as susceptible of any secondary in football to giving up the huge play and so baker icebreaker understanding that we might be forced into a shootout that we're likely not going to be able to keep Dallas under twenty one points Dallas team scoring thirty plus points despite the fact they can't stop turning. The ball over like on possessions, the cowboys don't turn the ball over there often been exceptional. So I think that there might be certain games were the browns in particular should say, let's avoid the mistake leads lean on our run game. I. Don't know that I believe that this is that game I. Think this is the game where you say you know what if we're going to get are passing game going this is the secondary to do it against and we can expect that the. are going to be very boom or bust themselves on offense brandon they're gonNA make big plays. They're also GONNA, Make Big mistakes that strength. But but the question the question is, do you trust? Do you trust Baker I know Jenny doesn't trust Baker Mayfield May WanNa jump in here. Is Not, about as not about it's not about who you're going against this is about who you are like we know who they are. There's this is a team that they can establish a run they lean on the play action and that's what they need to focus on it. They get beside themselves that they will make mistakes and they will lose this ballgame. Jeez Brandon. Here's the weird thing that's happening in the NFL this year. It's a historic offense and production. There's been two hundred and eighty one touchdowns most ever completion percentage sixty, six, percent highest ever there's been two, thousand, two, hundred, fifty, nine completions the most ever. So if Baker kick it to a shootout, then what are we doing? This is like the water is warm come on in and swim buddy give like. The eighty seven degrees we're in the career in the Maldives Glass bottle canoe they can look through. It's beautiful. So if you're like. A ball control let's run the route four, four downs in a pilot dirt or whatever it is. You gotTA air it out buddy or you're not made for this league. Well and Similar to know. Why Ravens? We'll know. Exactly, right exactly. Right. So just real quick the reason the scoring explosion is up. So they've stopped calling holding and maybe that's one of the reasons the cowboys have no pass rush but the league is whether it's a mandate or just via coincidence they don't go off into holding anymore. So drives aren't getting killed by those killer ten yard penalties and you do have the ability to keep drives going into score points but brandon I ain't wild makes a. Really interesting point which is the browns have two goals. This season one is obviously to make the playoffs for the first time in a decade plus the other is to find out what they have in. Baker he obviously was exceptional as first year. It was dreadful the second year so I if you're going to give him a chance to it out against this defense, then I don't know when you are going to give him a chance there at out brandon. No it's not about it's not it's not about. Winning Ball Games and you gotTa Lean on what you do best. It's like the Baltimore Ravens and there's a process. These guys are still young quarterbacks. You got Lamar Jackson got, Baker. Mayfield you look at. The Baltimore Ravens what do they do best? They run a ball in a lean on play action. That's why they're successful however when they're when they're trailing games because they can't air it out that's when they lose and they only lost a handful the games in the last two years and it's the same on the other side if they want to get to the level of the Baltimore. Ravens. They have to lean on what they do. Best now, for the Baltimore Ravens to get to the next level and compete with the Kansas City chiefs they have to it's not Lamar Jackson that he can't throw it. It's that now they have to start developing more they to put more packages in that they can work on in practice. So when they are trailing already getting these games where it's shootouts, he's a little bit more comfortable with the offense that they have available for him. And if this does become a shootout quickly before we go to break and you let a guy like Baker Mayfield throw all over the place, they have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot and they cannot come back from that the way the Dallas cowboys have seen to be able to do and that I think you put yourself at least if you're Cleveland browns in its opposition, right Browns, cowboys, all that action kicks off at one o'clock on Sunday on Fox we'll take a turn flash. Head down memory. Lane with our Guy Brandon Marshal Wait. Till you see what we dug up here on first things first. Off. Well. Drawn a blank now MVP sleepword Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Back, in action weekend in. Las. Vegas. Against the raiders looking for a second straight four start in Buffalo. So Brandon the player you are most excited to watch in week four is blank. A Hall of Famer. Says we want to talk about that. Let's talk about another hall of fame I mean when we talk about basketball who who moves the needle Lebron, James, and carry Irvine. So when we talk football, why we want to go with the best of the Best Russell Wilson that's the Guy I wanna see he's leaving an MVP race candidate race. So that's who I'm locked in see this week. I'm going to go with someone who is not quite on a hall of fame, but one day maybe Baker Mayfield unexcited watch them for a number of. Brown's play game above five hundred for the first time since November of twenty fourteen, it's against the Dallas Cowboys team that desperately needs win a team whose deepens has been susceptible to big play all year and. I want American understand this general who's got a very busy life of very successful wife works all the time. Limited time Gina has limited time in order to consume all the sport she needs to yet is watched every second of the. trubisky hate watching them? Browns game that really matters for the show because. Challenge to marquee game. So I'm excited to Washington. I'm actually excited Virginia's watching the payoff for the first time. quickly, and on an aside, you make all these patriots fence with wild UNM we're. GonNa have to make a Baker bet at some point whatever you want go ahead. And Save one nice thing about it. I. Dare. Let's work on it. Let's work on the stakes. Go ahead. About the hall of fame and we didn't mention the hall of Famer Julian settlement up against that chiefs defense can know nick while you're watching the game. Keep Your eyes on the screen week with one, thousand, two and three. When Hall of Famer Julian it'll catch a touchdown. We're two weeks away removed from him having one hundred, seventy, nine yards for Seattle. So keep your eyes on hall of Famer Guiliani. It'll be so much sweeter when he goes into the end zone at Arrowhead, can we really does phone to vote on which again about your haircut? Go ahead. Real quick and then And then just just listen. I. While you told the audience the other day little humble brag that you are former fancy television bigwig. You've made television shows I would think you would understand that I am trying to quietly subtly build the Brandon Marshall. Hall of fame case on this show, you responding four minutes later with Julian Hall of Famer it kneecaps the credibility of our of odd being able. To say this wide receiver deserves to be in I can't be like, Hey, it's all of a merger German. All of them are into Martial Min you're like, Hey, here's this dude with thirty six touchdowns once throw him in as well because I think he's funny like stop it. It's bad. It's bad for the back to the show most bad for our yard. Established. It has been. All, right. Let's move on. To Kansas City now where the chiefs getting set to host the Patriots New England Germany to six and a half point underdogs the last time bill checks team was counted out by that many all the way back two, thousand, sixteen. So Brandon the team that should be on opposite alert in week four is blank. Yeah, it's the lions upsetting saints, and Nick. I'm new to this whole betting against the spread thing and just the whole gambling don't gamble but I'm new to this and a lot of people look at it and they're like, well, they're only giving four or four and a half point. So correct me if I'm wrong here. So why is this an upset and I think it's less about this and more about the outcry at what happened if this team loses this game and they can lose this game. So this is the upset alert for me. By the way if anyone's an underdog of more than two and a half that's considered a legitimate upset if they win. So this absolutely qualify. You're upset pick last week. 'cause you pick the panthers I think and they were like six point underdogs. So your own nice little hot streak on this I want to go with the forty niners who are big touchdown favorites over the eagles like listen. The Eagles are very good but I also don't think the niners would nick mullins quarterback with no Joey Bosa or Nikki Bosa and when those Salomon Thomas with the wide receivers banged up should be a touchdown favorites over a desperate have to have the win eagles team. So I think the eagles can win. This game is touchdown underdogs outright wilds. Who I like brandon the beard pits magic over Russell Wilson. I don't know how long Russell Wilson's going to be able to throw five touchdowns every game just to keep them competitive. So they can win it the last play of the game they've got a one o'clock game to all the way to Miami I. Think he gets it done in Seattle's defense is. Matrix. You're not picking the Patriots. Up there. Upset. You set this all up for us. Philadelphia Carson Winston those winless eagles starving for a victory there in San. Fran taking on an injury riddled niners team on Sunday night football. But Brandon the team that most needs to win in week four is blank. Team that defeated needs to win right now I can't. I can't imagine being in the Locker Room right now losing this way but I, gotta go with the Texans Owen. If they go in four, this is really bad I. Don't think any of US expected this to be a rebuilding year for the Texans. They've competed every single year for the last four or five years So this is bad for them. They need a win right now. All right you pull the curtain back on the show a little bit. I wrote down Texans as well initially when I. saw my good friend Brandon, Marshall had that and he goes I saw my second that's the right answer. The second best answer is the saints and the the team that you think could be upset this week if the saints lose it. And they lose to the Fighting Matt Patricia Salad the alarms in the superdome America so One would be a level ten disaster. The Saints Fall into one in three and losing to the lions would be like. Eight disaster saw go with the Saints Wild. I'm GONNA to take the same you take the Texans. No, it's fine. It's fine. We're good. We we don't show. Nick. I'm going to we're going with the bears here I know the bears are three you know. What happens off Nick foles just becomes regular old Nick. foles human being made a flesh and blood and not the statue nichols everyone thinks they're going to get. If they go. If they go to wells and does anyone has been paying attention to how good the colts defense is the colts have given up a total of six, hundred, seventy, six yards to seahawks give that up her game, the colts in total. Until you love the steelers and we've been singing Mike Tomlin's praises the steelers are seventy. So the colts are really do we got to start paying attention nick full struggles I don't know where you're supposed to do as a bears fan you WANNA start rooting furniture against nick foles scenes commodity or with a big game in a win. moved. On Baker in the Browns Baker who makes really wonderful commercials and Baird is coming in nicely I said too nice things about Baker Mayfield and the browns down to do. For. What many are expecting to be a shootout with DAK Prescott and Dallas cowboys at a Sunday at one on Fox so brin in the player with the most to prove in week four is blank. I see what you did there Geno but you didn't say anything nice about Football Baker. Okay right anyway. Request, you know you gotTA. Know you gotTa say something Nice about his Footba game okay. So anyways drew brees. Listen drew brees I mean if they lose this game and he doesn't play well I mean coach Peyton. Is this Mr Fixer guy he has the shiny little toy and James Winston sitting there on the sidelines you gotta think that if this thing doesn't get back on track, he's going to be like you know what I know. He threw a hundred picks last year but I can fix them. He can come in here and turn our season around drew brees got to get it done this week. I love the idea of. James Coming on and being a great quarterback this might be a little unfair because he's so young. But I'M GONNA go cuyler cuyler came into this year with like some low key MVP buzz he has five interceptions, two four passing touchdowns and just played a brutal game against the lions that they lost in large part because of his mistakes I'm not selling cuyler stock all I'm saying is this week he needs to bounce back if they're going to stay competitive wilds in the far and away the best division in the NFL. So I'M GONNA go with our researcher dusty because Nick Nite. Now, the bet that when the Patriots beat the chiefs, Nikola Worry Cam, Newton for the football segment in Jersey for the football segment. What about the basketball segment? So dusty, I'm going to ask you to write a few paragraphs even though it's Sunday and Nick if you want up the bet since you're so. I'm GONNA, bring this bad way over to your house and when we're talking off. Role you. See, how confident you are as You can and and you can do a NBA final segment wearing a Jordan Jersey and dusty can either you can either freestyler or dusty are esteem researcher can rightly script? Will you accept that that's fine but if you're absolutely but then it's no longer free role for you you're back to the shave your rights. All wear that Jersey on shaving. Okay. What can't. Say. A Double Free Role? Cam Newton bets. I'm not doing a double free rule. Redick. Gambling and I got a question for you think Cam Newton Cam noone can leave Kansas City with a big upset win. On Sunday we will discuss snack I stay with US That you said, it wasn't an upset. Starts Saturday strong is the ninth ranked Texas longhorns facing foreign frogs TCU it all starts with the big noon kickoff pregame show any eastern all part of big noon Saturday on Fox in the Fox, sports. Zoning He's smell it one of the best teams of the last twenty years against one of the best teams for the next Twenty Years Patriots hosted. Giving, you some love, Knicks. Patrick mahomes against Tom. Oh. No. No No, it is Patty MOMS against. Any re preparing for a patriots team that now boasts a new threat as CAM has legs will run Fox. Ben Has the Patriots plugged in six and a half point underdogs in this one, and with that, we welcome in our own. Michael Vick Mike how Should Cam and the Patriots. Through this, should they feel disrespected being down nearly a touchdown touchdown underdogs to the Kansas City chiefs this Sunday? I may realistically speaking I mean when the New England Patriots look at this game in this match up and. They look at the. City teams roster and what they've been able to do. So I don't think base affair disrespected at all I. They should feel motivated than anything because in order to beat the man, you gotTa beat the matinee even though the season has been so short lived up into this point, the Kansas City chiefs look like. The Kansas City chiefs of Twenty, nine, hundred, nineteen, the reigning. Champs and they looked at stop what they look hard to be nine. They pretty much went into Baltimore last year later, the Ravers last week on. So you know feel disrespected by like I said more more motivated. Cam. At. The same time you know still has a lot to prove when. I remember twenty ten when I was with the Philadelphia Eagles, I wanted to every game. Everything to prove and everything the game and it was all sorts of disrespect coming from everywhere. So I didn't I didn't care it off. So you look at this. Opportunity go to Kansas City and win this football game you gotta motivate yourself got to commit suicide just about. In order to come out at the stadium with a victory and on top. So without whatever type the motivation lake get or whatever like motivation they feel they should use it as leverage to go and try to find a way to win. Yeah Yeah, definitely. Interesting. Question. But no, there's no disrespect here I mean. Is it the? Patriots yes. But this is a new look patriots team you can't. You can't assume you're going to get the level respect that you've gotten over the last fifteen years when you had Tom Brady now Cam Newton. Presents different challenges. I will personally go with a quarterback that's a dual threat that could run and throw the ball because it puts more pressure on the defensive coordinator on entire game. But there's no disrespect here nick. You can't assume that you're going to get the same level of respect around the lead. Even. Though the Patriots I think improved their quarterback situation from last year to this year I think that. The defense hasn't been quite as sharp because they didn't drastically upgrade the weapons and because they are playing what will turn out to be a historically great team Wilde's I. Know This is unfamiliar territory for you. Since Oh four, the Patriots have been this size underdogs three times once with gasol starting in. Because Brady Tournes ACL once in twenty tainted week seventeen when the Patriots had nothing to play for and once in two thousand sixteen when Jimmy Garoppolo was the starter and I've been trying to remember all morning why was Garoppolo starting because Brady was Oh, it's because he was suspended for the cheating I forgot about that. But aside from that, there's only three instances where your team's been underdogs like this over the last fifteen years but I'm gonNA I'm GonNa make I think you actually instead of feeling disrespected should feel respected because a six and a half point dog in Kansas City means if this game were in, Foxborough it'd be a pick em. And for for Vegas to think you guys are only on a neutral field three points worse than the chiefs is a hell of a lot of respect and I think a testament to what has already shown thus far this year I mean it like the the chiefs are going to be this size or greater favorites at home every game the rest of the way. So I actually think as a pat span you should feel pretty good about the fact that you're only six and a half point underdogs. Why don't since? Hello how about that? I'll throw that Japan. Teams aren't nearly as far away as everybody thinks look yards per game the historic. The. Half a billion dollar man versus the half, a million dollar man well, the chiefs at four hundred, thirty, three yards per game and the Patriots are four nine. Okay. So is that the massive difference that gives us a full touch on how `bout points per game the mouth, the mighty mighty score, thirty points a game and the lowly defensive-minded Patriots who don't even pay attention offense? Well, they scored twenty nine. What's the difference opponents per? Regain okay. We got you there and yards per game We're exactly the same basically. So what is the big big discrepancy? You guys have played to gains? Well, in one game kind of poorly the only time we ever talk about something failing getting close to failing with the kids to say chiefs in Mike just to put it out I'm Gonna I'm invite you on a nice fall boat ride with me. Okay. This Sunday I my. Sunday. And you say, yeah, I think Mike. Here's how here's how the last three weeks have gone with the boat first time with the boat. Great. Had A nice run we. It was fantastic the second week with the boat I'll be honest with you almost drowned. We I almost crashed the both in almost. And then last week it was perfect. Allows about that boat ride I don't know a third of the time. It was a little bit dangerous. So this chargers gained just been deleted from everyone's minds. You guys were moderately terrible and Mike the fact that no one's talking about it is insane. Well as. Boating analogy on uncertainty of Bulletin Guy I. To Say. It is. What? Mean, you look at you talking about the teams that the Kansas City chiefs face. The chargers head unbelievable defense. They might not have had the offense was in and tyrod Taylor went out with Joey Bosa. He wrecked their game and that's what hit consistently this right this entire season, the game against Baltimore last week I was pretty much a classic I mean Mahomes went off and the trio receivers in they went hand everybody did they applaud that was a good opponent today facing and they beat not doing the Patriots you only started out in the mind dolphins that. It was a good victory. It was a good win was a good stepping stone for now. But. I will say this I mean the Kansas City chiefs handle everybody that you put in front of phone candle and I'm wanting the same things that patch long at home says. So that's the motivation is a lot circulating around has gang you know I, it's it's a lot of state for Cam and you don't be six point underdogs I would say they respect that you know it would fashion. Mike I. Think you said something about in two thousand ten you felt disrespected and and that was interesting but you didn't go into detail on what that disrespect was for you and when I sit in this seat are always try to. Think about the players perspective as a player I don't remember being disrespected because of the spread. Know. This is like new age football stuff betting against the spread and everybody's talking about like we don't think about that. Now we do sit up here and we take. No we watched the ones we nick right pick about pick. Against US and talk bad about us when we do. But we're not we're not saying you're taking notes saying Oh nick right? You know he said that you know he's going with this team because you know what's better bet. So when you talk about disrespect What do you think the players really look at when we look at this type of dynamic in the locker room of going into these games? To enter debut since about where's the losses like you always want to be featured as a winner? Anytime, even if Su Point under dull. It motivation somehow some way because you looking at it like the rest of the world we're GONNA lose this game. So it's motivation indirectly in ice to love it. was underdogs because now I felt like the pressure was taken off west and we can go out and play a game at our own pace. So I look good at the pressure was on the opposition but you know it comes in all shapes and forms man like you can use anything is as motivation, and this is certainly a reason for the pace to be to. And you have to wonder if you if this game holds a little more weight for Cam Newton as almost approve it game respect or not just to go out there and show that he can hang with a team like the Kansas City chiefs. All right. We got another quarterback battle brewing coming up this weekend Baker versus deck. Now, which quarterback is under more pressure here to win on Sunday breaking down next I I love these two quarterbacks. Back here, first things her the Dallas cowboys are hosting the Cleveland browns Sunday on Fox among many storylines here the quarterbacks. Out Baker Mayfield. Here we go. Both leading teams with sky high expectations, this season both coming up big games. The lovely Dak Prescott, has thrown for four hundred fifty yards and back to games. The lovely Baker Mayfield has led the browns to a winning record for the first twenty fourteen. But folks. Get too caught up in Jack Versus Baker and let me tell you why letting Baker tell you why. I think that's clear a ton. Tremendous. Matter. Respect for him leader in the person he is but. When it comes down to it, we're playing the cowboys defense and you know we have to do whatever it takes to win, and if that is shootout, then great than if it's another game, show the clock, the mold you that. So whatever it takes. Just real quick I actually liked Baker Mayfield I just want to see them go out and win in. The field were they win on paper stop it's. It's just. Know. Reason to dislike him DAK press. Ways. Gain. And All over the place you got me off my game nick, not start with you. Are you are you expecting to shoot out in this game between Baker and? Hold on hold on hold on hold on. To go earlier in the show who talked about this earlier in the show can you please tell wild why it's important for the Cleveland browns and do what they do best I told house and Nick and football. Definitely talk. Like run the ball play action and take timely socks to Odell whilst think that you should just. Let. Mayfield. Do what he does. Nick thinks that Oh. This is the year to see what you have in a quarterback. So don't you want to throw it around? Dallas defense winter struggling in a secondary. Can you please tell them why it's important for them to do what they do? Best I think you gotTa, you gotTa protect the offense man but let the last thing you want really right now is to. Have Baker trying to go out and thought about fifty times the the altus needs to be balanced. But This guy was drafted number one for reason, and this team in county industrial. Things, has to happen right now. So if you're talking about. You and it's no ball control in the shootout. So that alleviates. Nick in in. The running game Screen you. GotTa. You gotTA. A big game. You know. Mike. This is Great Brandon Brandon s you. Wish. I would've I would've screamed objection leading witness brain it asks you the most leading. You still wouldn't go down the. Took you know why? Because? Like Baker Mayfield has been a number one overall pick and guess what he wants to do when he's playing Hornbeck. Digging, gone out tomorrow and show him I'm the better quarterback. It is not just the. Domes have. If all the only way they can be good teams is running the football. Then they got the wrong quarterback and they need to find out whether or not they have the right quarterback. The reason the browns have stunk for my entire life is because they've never had a quarterback there have been other issues, but that's been the biggest one brandon. So I do think it's just about how can we manufacture a win Patriot style I think it's also about listen. This is a bad pass defense with no pass rush Baker can't get cooking against these guys who can he get cooking against brandon? Yeah well. I'm I'm a throwback to you real quick man but here's what I'm saying you look at how you went from Atlanta and I truly believe in Rome system for you for your skill set you go to philly where Andy Reid Andy put together not he didn't. He didn't built around your weaknesses. That's not what I'm saying built around your strengths and what that is yet shady McCoy who could go for one hundred and fifty yards any given Sunday and then you had the Shawn Watson and your legs, right. So you put all that together and I remember just watching you Sunday night football Monday night football. In, seeing you this destroyed secondary's by play action and taking shots. Play actions and take off and picking up chunk runs, ten years, fifteen yards, and that's what I'm saying here is like that's what you guys do. Best. You have a great running game lean on that but destroy teams in the passing gain through play action. I totally understand what you're saying because when you play a tight game, it makes the game easier for the quarterback. The brain game neutralizes the Davison neutralizes the pace of the game, which is what we'd like as quarterbacks. But against the opposition on, you don't a better teams can you establish that running? It has to be established in the first quarter in order first and second quarter to be effective in the second half. So you gotta turn out at least. Seventy yards on the granite would have the plaques style clicking. In Philadelphia, we had that where Andy loved the boy an all he wanted to do was late teams in the passing game and not as much in the run game. Maybe don't shave grow into role. But the mindset going there was to know Doda football down the field I. Just don't know these coaches have that same mindset and I as shootout in this game is going to be needed I. Think. You know at the same time because. You know the Dallas cowboys going to score points they're going to school points they go charter school fast we heard McCarthy last week. So Nick. Here's my thing. This is why I want Baker to air it out and I'm not like a huge browns fan or a cowboys fan I like the I like Dynasty Guy I'm patriots. But coming into this year Jimmy G. was twenty one in five. So like the idea that wins are all that matter and if Baker gets a win like we'll, we'll sort of like you know crown him or night in it doesn't because Jimmy G. did the same thing. So unless Baker can air it out in an environment and I'll read some stats here. That is the most past friendly in the. History of the NFL. We've got the highest completion percentage ever. We've had twenty, two, hundred, fifty, nine completions in two hundred and eighty one touchdowns and leak. This is the most fertile ground for quarterback. Never mind the number one pick to just get in there and air it out add to that. You're going to get the cowboys defense that is so bad. The talking about science Hamas they don't just. Terrible. For him in his story to convince people like Jenna like he's got to air it out. Here's A. Here's why I disagree Nick and I'm going to ask you. I would say for most quarterbacks sure. You WanNa see what you got and your number one overall pick. Great. You got a guy with the arm like Baker. Great. But Barker, Baker is affected by is head is well, Baker throws a couple of bad picks maker makes a couple of bad decisions. He has a hard time getting himself back in the game. You want this guy to go play a shootout and all of a sudden behind I. don't trust that he could keep this Cleveland browns team in it. I don't fear that he wants he gets in his head. So Great. So you could see what you got for the first quarter and then you. GonNa questions then. No look. I. Agreed but. The best. The best game playing against the cowboys is to take advantage of their biggest weakness and if your goal for the Browns is to make sure you don't get blown out then. Yeah. Hand the ball nick trove in Kareem Hunt Thirty five times. Keep it. Close James if your goal for the browns is to try to win then you add some risk, you are right Jinnah in this regard if they aired out, there's A chance they get a trounced but a loss in this league, there's no coaches poll there's no boosters bet spread you gotta worry about the head coach it's not college football a loss by one is worth the exact same lost by forty. So you give yourself the best chance to win and the best chance to win with the cow against the cowboys when you have the ball is to take advantage of where they stink. Is Pass Defense Brandon. Brandon I figured it out. I figured out. So philosophical difference that we have with our buddy nick right now see he he's a known gambler. He wants to go out there put his team at risk and say throw it all over the field. Yeah. Baker. It's a fifty fifty chances of fifty chance. Baker can figure it out and you are saying you know what? Let's just it's Lose the dealer's showing seventy respected diller showing seventeen. Are Part of showing nine, which says nineteen. So stay stay right there. This is what we do best say listen to the rules that's. Always, stay on even understand. You. WanNa stay bean. Baker maybe. Down the earn back. The last word in here, Michael and then we can kick. Grin and just say you don't trust Baker Mayfield Nick. I understand your point Gina Understand Yours Nikki. Jenner you don't want make it A. Position. Less but genus. Ding and let Baker get dinged and have his backup case keenum come in and be text me throw times. Channel. You. WWW com. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. Enjoy a great. Folks. We're GONNA talk some moves on the other side. Of. Lebron yesterday first things first WC excuse me. Do. Baseball's postseason and fsn will be your home for the. Divisional series it all gets underway on Tuesday. On this one and Fox sports fans, APP. Welcome back Oh what a so far. We've got Bruin in the NBA like sand through the hourglass. So we're Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant Kyrie join Katie's podcast yesterday talks whoops only a true days of our lives fan would get that and wilds did in so doing. Katie and Kyrie were chatting inquiry started talking about his deep appreciation for matching up with someone of Katie's cal work. If only it was that simple take a listen to this from Kyrie. says. One point game who shooting. WHO's hot? I don't see it as as anything other than that like. One three pick and roll or is. So for either one of US Laura something. Great for our our Tame One thing I'm always been comfortable with this. You. Know I felt like I was the best option on every team I play for you know doubt stretch. This is the first time about very Joaquin County. Make. That shot. Oh Shot Lebron perhaps sure seem like it. Well. The backlash that he was throwing shade and responded later in the day this? While must always be brother against brother. Why? If I'm addressing anyone. Say their name. Come on listen to the false narratives the people live their lives. The game. Talk about our talk about the sport you talked openly talk freely. But. Because, we live in a click basis side become something bigger. Joined by Crisper Sard. Resort. What do you make of Kyrie's common? Car Rica. Say he has a right to say whatever he wants. The Earth is flat. Christmas shouldn't be a holiday whatever he wants to say and he can say I've no problem with him saying I always believe I was the best at the end of game. He's got the guts. He's got the skill. He's got the communist he's got the heart and the track record. Having, hit arguably the greatest shot in NBA history he can say that where he went off the rails was one to say this is the first time I ever had a teammate who I thought could hit that shot. He was there when Lebron hit the game winner against Chicago in the playoffs he ran over to Lebron is celebrated like the rest of his teammates Lebron's. Hit. Five. Buzzer beaters in the playoffs more than any other player in history where and he also goes off the rails where you can't get matt or even aggravated with the media when we respond to what you said, and here's the thing. Don't tell me I never mentioned his name that's the way. The English language works when I stand on this show and say Michael. Jordan. Is The goat when I say Michael Jordan's goat. I am saying Magic Johnson is not Lebron James is not lily were wilt chamberlain. They're not. I don't have to mention their names to be saying that. So when you you have to own it, if you're man enough to say it, you gotta be man enough to handle the repercussions don't see the later and be like. Men The media you know they blew that out of he said, they copied. It it is. To own it, you have have their own it or to apologize show you know what I had twenty seconds brain freeze and I forgot I play Lebron. Bruce Sean. Five years it'd been five years I was on a television show with Nate Burleson and I'm like it's great to finally have a wide receiver nobody's talking about it. I can't then be like a Chris Gregg, Marshall I wasn't talking about Y'all of course that have been talking about them. I wouldn't have mentioned it in order for it to be clear, and we could address the facts on the ground here the I mean we can show you Kyrie's playoff numbers and the bronze playoff numbers in these clutch situations because it's obviously a no contest, you have one who's the greatest ever at it? And one who has made two shots in this category. One of them is, as you mentioned Broussard, arguably the greatest shot in NBA history, we could talk about the fact that Kyri in the the years of his career where he was not attached to Lebron, James has a losing record as a losing record in with multiple variations of teammates with multiple teams. We could say that if not Lebron James Kyri is just a less interesting Gilbert Arenas without the twenty nine points per game season. We can say all those things, but we don't need to say those things because we all know those things. So, here's what I will say wild and this is where. I might make some people on the show uncomfortable. But. It's what everyone's thinking. KYRIE's the most dangerous type of person. A kind of smart guy who thinks he's a genius, he's a one, twelve IQ who thinks he's a one eighty. He's The guy who actually has completed four and a half credits of philosophy and thinks he's solved the world. He's the guy who has his facts consistently wrong and when you tell him Hispanics are wrong. Do you know what he says do? Your research read something about it's like nominee and the problem is I have and you haven't is I've actually read things and you scrolled facebook. The problem is you're listening to shock rose and twitter comments and other people actually thought about these things and the worst part of it all wilds is when he's called on it, he runs from it. Yeah. Hey, you. A, Kyri, we saw you in K. D. talking in a hallway was it about coming together to play together? How dare you ask that can't to friends just talk today's media environment is so toxic I need my oars Clinton's, and then Katie on his aim bond gases like, Hey, remember that hallway. That's what we decided to pair up together and then twenty minutes later he's like finally got a guy who can hit a shot and then A media Click Bay it will. Why would you think I'm talking about Lebron because you were talking about Lebron your doofus and listen man so I'm happy. Bradley beal with the ring but that's what Kyri is. Thinks. He's something else. Bradley. Bradley Beal Ring. Let. Me To and talk a little bit about media and then I'm going to throw a dwayne Wade Lebron Alley oop to uber sort. So get ready tire sneakers tight for the one I'm going to throw to you. Okay, Kyri. I love you buddy I really do nick is going to get a hit you but I love you here's the thing about about saying it's click, bait media. The question you were asked and we didn't play the full thing was from the host Eddie who did an excellent job in the podcast? Can I ask you the cliche question and go viral with it real quick. So that's a sign that you're playing in the like spiral. Then, if you're online they hook that clip in made a promo out of it, it wasn't live radio. Promotion to get attention so don't act like we're. So we got so much sports right now you WanNa talk about the Brooklyn Nets we've got football the Patriots we got vials in baseball. It's the most crowded time ever and new guys come in with your podcasting trying to get attention just don't tell me you're not but Bernard your comes. This is why I think a strong leader like Steve Nash and having a coach like that that they respect in his obviously the leader of the team that they look. Perfectly in line. And so you know what it Steve's team. He's going to set the course for us and I think a lot of these outside distractions will go away. What do you think? Thank you for that Allie you. My goodness. I. I I mean, yes, that's it. Scare look the Brooklyn Nets. Next year, we'll have by far by far the best team in the East or paper they'll be the only one with two real bona fide superstars who've won championships. They got a host of role players from Jarrett Alan to Joe Harris Spencer dinwiddie cares I mean they are stacked. But. This, what Karis and Kevin Durant Kevin Rare signed off on it. We said Hey Josh VI- John Von could be our head coach for day. This is not good. And they have to K. D.. You see is not a leader. Kyrie is a stronger personality and K B kind of signed off on what he said I think in his mind he knows well, we need a coach I mean, we need a head coach but he wasn't strong enough to say hold on to Cairo Steve. Nash. Our head coach and I don't think. Minute disrespectfully to Nash but it was disrespectful the Nash to say he's not the head. We don't have a head coach you do. So this this could be disastrous in Brooklyn. Are you guys done. Are you done you're. Serious. Sat back here. This look. One hundred percent, but I don't have enough time to do it. So I don't even want to start it because we we don't have enough time. So Anybody WanNa, hear my take. You gotta continue watching the show. because. This next. One hundred percent you're going to. US Why don't we do this listen listen just hang out quick commercial break because Lebron is actually going to chime in respond and we'll have much more on this exact right after this stay with. Great. Back, here Christopher sorry to we just heard from Kyrie irving is comments about finally playing with someone who he trust to take. The final shot was not in fact, a dig at Lebron James shortly after those comments were made Lebron was asked about the dynamic between him and his New Coast Dr Anthony Davis listened to when he had to say. We're not jealous of each other. I think that's the. Best thing. In Professional Sports. We have guys that join forces. To Come out for males. As we call them. Two guys. It's been dominated in a specific sport on the respect teams and you get together and they talk about. Okay. How? Talk about this is going to be this and that. I believe jealousy creeps in a lot. and. That is the absolute. Contrary where we are. We know who we are. We know what we're about. And we want the best seriously every single day both on the floor for one another. OR JUST NOT Jealous of one another and I think that. Your line that will respect. On down. They despise the limit. Are, so, again, these comments by Lebron came a few hours after the comments Kyri made which sort of ignited all this brandon I want to pick it up with you do think Kyrie's original comments were in fact subtle shot at Lebron James. Art So. I want to be careful here. So just stay with me. I. I wanted to dress as a as a player. As a player, you have to be careful. Praising your form, your current teammates because it could come off as you're taking a shot at your former teammates if I said that correctly. Yup You got. So Cari was in it. Cari was an interesting position there. Before I get into my point in why I I'm okay. With curry saying this, I wanNA address something that Chris that you said. You talked about his his stats. Oh, he's hit five game winners. Well Lebron has played more playoff games than anyone in the history of the game. So he had way more opportunities to do that. Also when I look at my notes here. And we're talking about his comments and was it a shot at Lebron absolutely not this is a guy that's being honest and transparent if. The real question. The right question to ask is why he believes this. And when you break that down on Y. Cari believes this is because. I don't think anybody. Believes that. Lebron James. Is the best when it comes to closing out the game or finishing a game. If, you really think about it it's been a discussion. His entire career is him being closer? Nick, you said this yesterday. When we were comparing Lebron MJ. And I thought it was brilliant because when you think about attributes player can have about three or four people name, but you need like ten. But let me highlight a couple that you say it when you say why Lebron James is the best. You say, he's the biggest the strongest the most durable. The better score the better passer better defender. You didn't say finisher. Yeah. You didn't say score and when you look at the question posed to Arri, he was talking about finishing games. If. It's been a knock on Lebron on to finish games and carry his teammate says and no situations. I. Want The ball I'm the better finisher and this is the first time that I can look down look on the course say, Oh, this guy hit that shot to. He really believes that. So why are we crushing them and think about this the last the last shot of the game? Who Do you want to take the shot nick do you want k. d? Do you want? Lebron take that shot liberal. Lebron the guy who listen you can say it's been a narrative ending Kyrie's world. It's also a narrative that the world might not be round a lot of narrative floating around him. But Luckily, we have facts we have cartographers and space shuttles to tell us about the shape of the Earth and we have playoff his. Brandon Lebron James has hit more playoff game winners as Broussard said than any player ever he has. Way. More opportunities. No no, we're talking about. The game. Branding we're talking. We're we're talking about MC. We're talking about closing out a game. That's what we're talking about. Go back to the heat will go back to the Miami days remembered the discussion Chris have you forgotten I know you cover basketball for thirty plus years but you ain't got about the discussion around the does it was gonna take the last shot is it the way and it? Always? He's the best. Was it became Lebron. Near Brandon No. After one year Brandon I you you're just you. Into the same narrative trap. INDIANA GAME WINNING LAYUP CHICAGO GAME PRE TORONTO GAME winning three. Or game went and banker. Sorry Indiana game winning three Orlando game winning three I mean and forget the opportunities on a percentage basis. He is the most clutch playoff score ever as far as field goal makes. Kobe was like six for twenty three in his career Mj I think was seven of nine, thousand, nine, hundred and Lebron. Last count I think is eight for seventeen. Do the math on it. So you fall into the same narrative trap Kyrie fell into the premise cut played with him and the other problem is this brand Cairo's own it Kyri would not own it Kyri would not. Just. If you're going to say it say it resort. Don't then go on I live in say basically fake news bad media. It's a big problem by the way people calling real news fake news and Kyrie's fallen into that. He believes he believes it. He believes that listen listen to hijack this conversation but no, we gotta have. We got it. We got to state the facts because the narrative in in story lines over the last seventeen years has been Lebron. James can't he become closer? That's one number two in those moments those. Those crunch moments, those clutch moments the game within five points underneath five minutes. What has Lebron James. Why is he dishing? Why isn't he taken over the over the game Kobe like Michael Jordan you guys can't sit here. Say You you guys have had these same conversations? Jeff Brandon. First of all, you did you did a decent job of explaining the situation. I'll give you this. I don't think if you WANNA take the word, the phrase a shot literally I, don't think Kyrie was trying to be mean-spirited and necessarily go at Lebron but he did in fact, say I've never had a teammate I could trust the hit that big shot other to now k. d.. Lebron has hit the shot I'll agree with you if I had the choice I'd give it to Michael Jordan at the end of the game rather than Lebron I'm not saying Lebron's the greatest closer we've ever seen. His. Katie or Lebron. K. D. or Lebron Lhasa. Well If I don't have a stat seventy, three win team with Katie I'm just answer I golden stay. Liberal now it matters. Context we take the okay. See Lebron anywhere else Lebron that Golden State team where you have to worry about Steph, clay and you can't focus on Kevin Durant who is they better? Brian flat-out. Yeah. I'll give it to him but no look. No I can't miss. School. Let's guys. He's twenty two years old against a champion Piston team and he scores twenty nine of the final four thirty points to put the himself to his first NBA finals couple years later against Orlando he hits a three to walk offers first career buzzer beater. He had the bad moment against Dallas after that what did he do in the biggest moments? Oh, against Katie wash them in the finals the next year who do you trust why don't know what's the biggest you possibly could be in how about game seven of the finals one possession game less than thirty seconds left Lebron. James. I from nine hundred thousand feet to is that the next game seven of the NBA Finals I read hit the three more all the power one of the biggest shots ever. Wanted to join. Over the YOU WANNA glance over that being. Third. Thirteen. WanNa Glance. The person the person that the biggest shot in that series, you WanNa glance over that come on. No. You are you. Wait Brandon is nobody's questioning. Kyri can make a clutch shot so I don't have to gloss over anything. We're acknowledged that is new conversation. I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not. I'm not saying that Lebron isn't great what I'm saying I'm answering the question we're looking at with Kyri actually talked about he talked about the clutch moment in those shots. In, Cleveland when they were teammates the big shot to get them to ring it, it was made by Kyri. So when Yukari? Lebron. This fine for Car Rita say I think I was the best option that is fine but to act like lebrons can't get it done he's gotten it done. That's all I'm saying and this isn't Versus. This doesn't it. US Not only talking about if Lebron. Not What we're talking about not. We're talking about we're not talking about the growing. Not the conversation that's conversation here for. Can Get it right Geno. Here for a second, it is a Lebron Kevin durant comparison. That is the one Kyrie is making so you. So if you WANNA say Kevin Durant made those big shots, made a couple of them on the Brun. That's absolutely true. But to ignore and gloss over the fact that one guy has made those shots at a higher percentage at a higher rate over a longer period of time in any place. About who he trusts it's about who he trusts we're talking about a guy that. We cannot sit up here in the media and get get upset when a guy is being honest and transparent. That's what he believes the listen. Listen we we. We can easily continue this conversation the rest of the day, but I I gotta get to this little interrupt quickly big story yesterday the NBA According to reports. Doc Rivers has reached an agreement on a five year deal to become the next head coach. The Philadelphia Seventy sixers I can't believe it took so long You out on job rivers being a good fit with Joel embiid and Ben Simmons is the next sixers coach. I'm in you know better than my dad's totally that's what they were gonNA hire if it wasn't docs. So docs definitely a better fit dot gotta I'm glad dash getting such a quick and immediate chance at redemption because he was disappointing with the clippers, there's just no other way to look not just this year but through his tenure there, he'll get a chance at redemption I. do think he's a good coach. Let's see what he does in Philly. We talked about this when everything blew up with Philly in the bubble. We talked about they didn't have any leadership. This is your leadership here you had Jimmy Butler echoed potentially beat at. Guy. He let them go. He's now in Miami in the finals this is the guy that can come in and galvanized that locker room. This was a great move by the Philadelphia Seventy sixers. Yeah, Nick I. Think this is a massive home and when I read that he was watching game one of the finals with Josh Harris I was like Oh this is his job you sit down with Coachee, watch a finals game everything that he must have been pointing I think Josh Harris looked at me like Oh this guy I don't need. DANTONIO got a long term contract with DOC is a home run for the sixers. Two points one is an underrated part of this the sixers Oh Tobias Harris about one, hundred, fifty, million more dollars device Harris played. The Best Basketball does life under DOC rivers. We've talked so much about embiid and Simmons needing to play better device hairs to play up to that Max contractor at least close maybe dot can get the most out of them is. Wild strategically DOC has been. You know I don't say undressed, but he's been made the look bad and some playoff series his star players tend to get along like each other I think that's very important Simmons and Embiid, and so I do like this higher for Philly and I like the back redemption for doc and by the way I just got a text. He said he'll take Ben Simmons for the game winning shot over Lebron too soon. As. Never missed it. Never missed. My friend. Hey you guys Cam Newton to the Patriots Leave Kansas. City with an upset Win Sunday, we'll discuss good weekend, broussard. Thank you. Ten Am eastern part of big noon Saturday on Fox and Fox sports APP. Backward, top story this morning Sundays AFC showdown. Chiefs at Arrowhead first time longtime Andy Reid on game playing for Patriots team. Does not. have. Tom Brady under center still not going to be easy Cam Newton presents a different kind of challenge he can throw. He can also run meanwhile chiefs dominating on all fronts lately, coming off that big win over the Ravens the team many thought was their biggest challenger in the AFC. So what are keys to the game? What does turn to brand new avid segment called Brandon's keys to the game? How can Cam and the Patriots leave Kansas City with an upset win. I. Mean there's three things that they have to focus on number one. They have to attack this chiefs, rush rush defense with what they do best. When you look at coach mcdaniels, he did a phenomenal job last week against the raiders attacking the perimeter this week the soft spot on this defense is the linebacker. So they they will be leaning on that power run that's number one number two you have to protect cam offense align hasn't been challenged thus far this year because they've done a great job in the run game and up play action slowing up the pass rush so now. Potentially Chris Jones, if he if he does play, he should play and Frank Clark who's a freak? This could be scary. So they have to protect Cam, they WANNA have a chance and the last key is really keeping mahomes in the pocket, and this is the most important thing you know quarterbacks they get comfortable with their spots are remember playing for coach nicknames in two thousand ten and he talked about Tom Brady going into the game he said look this guy's comfortable six and a half yards deep behind the center we have to get him off that spot. What is I mean pretty much all over the Dang on field, but he's more comfortable and more dangerous outside the pocket. So expect this, the line that have different types of schemes different type of looks and fronts that can keep him in the pocket. The key to that is not the defensive end. It's also those guys those tackles in the front. So they do these these three things they'll have a chance, but it's going to be hard. And Brandon particularly mahomes out of the pocket what they really need to prevent him rolling, right him rolling left. He can do damage but him rolling right to the most dangerous play in the league so that in particular and your points about exploiting the chiefs weaknesses, I agree thousand percent I think Yaacob. Johnson. That pats fullback. They got blown up on the goal line on the Cam Newton attempted touchdown run. He's GonNa be on the field a done I. think they're going to do a ton of twelve personnel, heavies or twenty-one personnel. Pardon me heavy sets they tried to basically bullied the chiefs I think that is the smartest approach for them defensively or offensively. Defensively I think they're going to be trouble wild. Can we show the worst thing that pats up going for him is where this game falls on the schedule can we show Patrick mahomes through in the first four weeks of season in his career? That's what perfection looks like. He's never lost weeks one through four. He's never thrown interception weeks. One through four. He's got a near perfect passer rating, and this is, of course, a week four game. The chiefs have gotten off to flawless starts every year of his career and I don't expect that to change this week in wild I'll be honest I'm a little surprised. You guys are only six and a half point underdogs. You should be happy with this fact know. You think I'm being a smart ass. Smart Pardon me. SMART L. Serious I'm serious I i. think that every other team that comes to narrow had wilds is going to be under all of more than a touchdown I. Think it's the smallest favorite that GPS are at home all year I think it's a testament to how good the pats of looked but I don't think they can keep this one close man. Okay. Here's how good the Patriots I've looked. In our loss, we looked better than when you guys beat the chargers. Every one of the Patriots Games has been good. It's true. It's true and everyone and people the mahomes propaganda machine, which which you are the lead engineer and shoveling coal into the engine is does it belies the facts? So here's my prediction and then I'll give you some facts the predict. Clean Energy the prediction is this on Monday nick. Right will be wearing a Jersey that will let America decide I bought a mechanic Jersey because we were supposed to be Patriot buddies and Cam Newton fans. So he can either wear that Jersey or nick want tweet Nick Right? Say If America wants this that you could wear this on Monday as well. It'd be nice after a big game to be fantastic. So. If you WANNA. Where the Jordan Israel win while the pats win if the pats went Oh, where the Camp Jersey already, I'm giving you a free role on that bed if they want me to. Jordan Jersey. If you want to include the Jordan Jersey in it and you have to put some skin in the game as well. You GotTa Shave at least. Where the whole thing if you'd like no Opponent Square Contemporaries your. Pocket Square one. That's. Why Fade I liked you know general? Let me show you sickly go ahead. Go ahead go ahead while. I just wanted to run through like the fact that these teams this team really close look at yards per game the mighty mighty chiefs four, hundred, thirty, three yards per game. The lowly, Patriot, we've got four, hundred nine and how about points per game all the mighty chiefs the billion dollar man he got thirty points and we got twenty nine points about our defense. Oh, the chiefs. They're bringing back all eleven starts well, okay. You guys doing three, hundred, fifty, five yards and we do three, fifty, seven out to yards. There is one massive difference in bringing you touched on it. You guys are ranked twenty, seven th against the run and you're playing the best rushing team in the NFL. So when you see nick right wearing a Michael Jordan or at Camp Jersey on Monday or perhaps Sunday just walking around New York City, the reason is because Julian second circle has. Scored a touchdown and we've run for over one hundred yards. Jenna. Right, I was just going to say I'm not sure players come into a game talking about the spread and disrespect I think they come in but we'll. We'll. We'll get to that another time all the other big game that we got to watch this weekend browns in Dallas and take on the cowboys team off to a shaky. Start to teams with expectations. Two cornerbacks with lots of proven this one you got deck Bresca. Statistically, it's been great and what about Baker Bakers led the browns to a winning record for the first time since two thousand fourteen. Well, let's not get too caught off in back versus Baker here's why. You know I think great player ton. Tremendous amount of respect for him a leader in the person he is but. When it comes down to it, we're playing the cowboys defense. Whatever it takes to win, and if that is a shootout, then great than if it's another game controller block. that. So whatever it takes when. Our brain. All morning we've talked about what the Cleveland Browns Game Plan should be. Should they go into as shootout against Dallas and that's how they keep pace or do they use their own game plan and figure out what works for them and come out with a win? What do you think heading into Sunday's Matchup Dallas? mean. I Love Baker. Think they showed us in week to who they are and what they do best. What he's not that guy, he's not the guy that wants to be in a in a shootout That's not what this team. With the recipe for success is when you look at we to, what did they do? They did a great job running the ball and establishing that they got two of the most premier running backs in the National League national. Football. League, and Chubb and Hunt. So why wouldn't you lean on that and once you establish the running you've you establish it early then that sets up play action and we saw Baker Mayfield settle in a little bit more comfortable. We made some big plays and the last thing that makes this special. They got Odell Beckham Junior. Who could possibly be the best wide receiver in the game if he was in the right situation, so you need to take shots. At the at the right time with this guy. So Baker Mayfield in shootout shootout against Dak Prescott in the Dallas Cowboys I think that's a recipe for disaster for these guys. Will Brandon I do think it could end in disaster but you've got to have a very different game plan against Dak in this cowboys offense than you do against rookie Joe Borough in his second start or second year Dwayne Haskins in his was tenth career start they're going to have to score more points they're going to have to add more variance to the game. It could end in Baker turning the ball over three times it absolutely could. But I don't think they can beat the cowboys twenty, one, seventeen I don't think they can I don't think this browns defense is shown unless myles Garrett has an out of body experience. He can wreck a game by himself that they can hold the cowboys. Under twenty seven. So I think they're going to have to go and score I. Do have one quick question for you brain. See this resonates with you I. This game is more important for the cowboys, Super Bowl hopes, but I think it's more important for the Browns playoff hopes meaning the cowboys can lose this game and still make the playoffs because of the NFC. But if they lose this game, they're done is super bowl contenders the browns on the other end I don't think they're actual super bowl contenders. But if they win this game winning in Dallas into three and one, you can start to talk about them. The way I was talking about them last year as a real playoff team. Brandon. We'll start with the Dallas Cowboys Dallas cowboys they have a little bit more wrote because of their division. Terrible division, it's a messy division so they can afford to lose a game and go to the playoffs but to your point, they lose this game against the browns. Enough of the contender talk now go to the browns the browns they can't afford to lose a game because they have who in division they have the Pittsburgh steelers they have the Baltimore Ravens there's no way you can say that far behind. Brandon wouldn't you be salivating as a wide receiver for the browns if you're watching tape of the seahawks versus cowboys game and you saw Russell, Wilson thrown for five actually six if you don't count the Lien, let thing at six touchdowns if I'm Odell and then I go like we're going to run the ball. We're it's Korean get ready. We're going to run the bye. Bye Guys. Then what are we doing? We're not throwing the ball against this. Then what are we doing? Yeah but at the end of the day we WanNa win and we know that don't ball around the field is not is not our philosophy it's not how we're made up so I want to win. So I'm tell the coach to run the ball and lean on play action and take their shot and we can. That's sports. I'm just going to throw it out there. Hey. Would you WanNa wish our Nick writes a very, very happy early birthday and as our gift to you a collection of your. Hair. I do need to ask my producers may head is making me ask what are you wishing for this year favor? All you know. I I hope I. Hope Everyone has a better twenty, twenty, one, twenty, twenty. I've already gotten all my presence chiefs in the midst of Diana's the Lebron starting a new dynasty everything while twenty twenty, it's been a hell in almost every way as far as nick right sports teams, it has been unbelievable the clippers part the Kyri and already acting a fool Lebron's winning titles. It's been great was. Buddy. Happy. Weekend?

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Postgame Show: Doritos Diet

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

22:02 min | 5 months ago

Postgame Show: Doritos Diet

"So billy what's going on with you and fake butter and real butter. And why is it that. When chris talking during the break about i wanna talk about butter and arguing about butter. How who. Why does anyone argue about butter. Y anything. I do dan right. I mean i guess that's the question anyways. Butthurt dan you like butter butter really. Here's the thing about feels like a fat joke. That doesn't matter but you better not talk about about butter here. Billy just be careful well so this is what i'm i'm learning a by itself like actual butter not as good as like the fake butter like the buttery spread. I'm becoming more pro. Buttery spread than butter. And i know what's going to happen. Your ma the pro butter people are gonna come out and they're going to be totally like killing me over this take but if you go and you get like the prepackaged once i in a little container to put it on toast like the buttery spread is so much easier to spread on your bed. Bread is creamy goes right on where the butter itself is hard and then it breaks your toes your toes into a thousand pieces. That are happening. You guys billy you are rookie man. Take your butter out of the fridge. Like ten minutes before you use it in problem solved. Now he's right yet. Defrost your butter you have to. I mean everyone knows that otherwise. You're playing a dangerous game with a butter. You have the with the with the with the buttery spread. I don't have to go and get the butter. Put it less quality. Yes let's say it's crap now you being lazy billy. I think anytime you break things down into smaller and smaller. Things like a stick of butter being stuck into a bottle that you could spray out on your piece of bread toes bagel. whatever it makes the product worse. I it's a stick of butter like a stick of butter. Fantastic the spray butter. It's never actually been sold at full capacity. It's always at the very end and you have to turn it just right to get it. I've never been able to get a clean spray of. I can't believe it's not butter. No that spray butter. You guys are twisting what i'm saying. I'm talking about like the butter. Like the comes in the tub and you take off the top and then you go in with the knife and then you go and you spread it out and then you go back another time. Just go my god. Now have all these little pieces of toast on it and now. My butter has little toast. Things are happening butter though the it's literally called. I can't believe it's not butter. I know because it's the same as buddy. Oh my god. Is this butter no. I can't believe it's not blood. So you're you're saying it's well named you're saying you're saying the best urban name you're saying that well it is the best of names of course because no other product has such a long name so it's not surprising at all that that would be your favorite. I can't believe it's not. Butter is way too. Long brandon factual though dan but you taste it and your pain. This is really good bug like. Hey no that's not like i can't believe it's not butter. Are you arguing. this is. Is this the poll question. Are you arguing that. I can't believe it's not. Butter is better than real butter share. You're just being lazy though. Billy like leave out the stick butter for ten minutes and you have. I can't believe it's not butter. Then you have to equal things where it's easily. It's easy to spread the real butter and it's just not even close. Billy let's it tastes you know when we get back in the studio first thing we do tests. I guarantee you prefer real butter used. I guarantee you can't tell the difference. I bet you. I can keep in mind. That margarine is like one or two molecules away from being plastic. So as coach roy. Your body weight flight. You do have to keep that in mind. Billy's learning something. While you wait a minute. Billy just five true roy. Roy say the healthiest thing on earth. Roy please get out of here. At least i never roy. You're saying like yet to keep in mind like everyone knows that. I do have to keep it in mind roy off my dad keeping in mind library nerds. Here's to god's everybody's doing all this research on everything before you eat it. How is that even possible. How do you guys have time in the data. Look up everything you before you read it. Just eat and keep moving with your life. That's what you gotta do. You can't you're not gonna enjoy anything. Then that's why you're eating all this keen all this kale and this and that just not looking into what into this. You don't wanna know what to any of this right. Don't look into what's chickens. How chickens are done here and corn and all of that. You don't want don't don't ask. Don't tell as far as it comes to food. You don't wanna know about any of that stuff. I believe it's not plastic Billy this is funny that you say that. Did you guys see brandon marshall and ocho cinco going back and forth because they were going back and forth in a way. It was great. It was great television. It was funny. They were legitimately arguing because chad johnson. Not unlike billy was arguing about. This is the the logic point chad johnson was making. I ate mcdonalds my whole career. I never got hurt with. That's the point that you just before we get to the science of it. He says it hardened his insides so that he couldn't get hurt. How do you argue. That in hardened his insights. How many times does he heard he was never heard. I was brandon marshall hurt. That's right. how great does that silly did you enjoy that. Though because bread marshals sitting there taking care of his body and about you know and brandon marshalls had mental health stuff on learning. The things that need to be learned. Like roy is trying to teach us about the way to eat correctly brandon. Marshall is making way is not the one to tell us how to eat correctly either. Dorito look into what's into doritos roy. Okay like come on with. Do you know what to do you know. What's in march. Do you know what's in torito's no way in hell. They read syrup number. This and that. Get out of your roy. That's not healthy for you either. Okay you know. I eat out of food than the. I'm actually healthy eaters. We've seen you. Yeah you've been around me for twenty four hours. Yeah roy's the healthiest amongst. Does bill you. The one of the talk skinny is healthy. Stuff is a crap shoot. I'm telling you okay. Like i think chad johnson's right. I mean there's no marie mcdonald's you might not get injured trying to physical conditioning marshall. And you're out every other game tom. Tom brady would argue about his success. Being the one interesting public thing that tom brady has shown you behind the mythology is the idea. Hey my doctor. Who's not a doctor. I'm not cheating. This is not something illegal. I am doing. I'm the guy who throws away his phone when the nfl comes to investigate. Tom brady has been telling you that he has some secret formula. This thing he has sold more than any others it. Not stu gods like in terms of his public face what you know about. The greatest winner of our times is he believes in that. Tv twelve stuff that it keeps you young that he's been peddling that stuff saying no the the thing i have an answer for you on why it is that i've been able to play this long. That answer is. I adhered to a very specific discipline. That keeps me. Young and chad. Johnson is arguing with brandon. Marshall and i had. Mcdonald's never got her. Eat a big mac every once in a while. Tb twelve and you'll enjoy life a lot more. I'm telling you big macs delicious a mistake but it was a blessing from the heavens. I tried to order a double cheeseburger. Plane ray cost cutting measure wanted to go cheap double cheeseburger plane because i found out if anyone is interested in this. Here's a lack saas. Double cheeseburger with maximum stays. Here's a life. Hack attack guys. I don't know if we still do life hack attacks. Here's a life hack attack if you order a number one a big mac after they do all the bells and whistles and all that stuff. It's like nineteen dollars. It's not it's like eight dollar still if you just do a double cheeseburger plane fries and a coke and by the way mcdonalds any size coat for one dollar. You could get a large for the same price as small. So you get that that combo and it's like five bucks so you save three dollars our all. You're missing israeli that piece of bread in the middle who wants that anyways right and also a little sesame seeds top. How do you feel about sesame seed buns now. We're talking about big fan so you just do that. Where are we going with this. I forgot because i felt like we were going anywhere. It felt like billy went off while and elliott from habits. Thanks dan for reminding me this is what happened. I ordered a double cheeseburger plane. And then i went to the window and the like seven bucks in seven bucks. This is not no. This is not the way. I've calculated it in my mind. So what happened. I look at my bags. Obviously i'm not going to confront any one. I'm non confrontational. So i'm like okay. Take my seven bucks. Let's see what's in this bag. Because that's what i'm gonna eat because it's not what i order because i know the price for what i ordered. It was a double quarter pounder off half a pound. It was delicious. I've never had a double quarter pounder before have you know and neither. Is tom brady because all he does is look at. What's in his food before he eats it. Do you know that sesame seeds. Don't break down through your bowels. Did you know the main ingredient in doritos is an alkaline solution. I wanna i wanna battery beef flavor. I wanna get back here. Hold on a second roy. Because i want to examine something because roy has been a bit of a changed man through love so i want to see if we have this wrong or not. Because i'm going to believe that. The only reason that roy knows that about margarine. Although i may be wrong about this but the only reason that because roy's been fasting and he's been doing things to honor his his wife and his life and so he has gotten very fit in the way that he eats and eats very specifically but roy. I thought that that was all your wife's influence that your knowledge of food. Because all i know you as a man who for ten years was in eating his entire diet came out of a very sad waxy vending machine in old radio. And so i don't think of you as a healthy eater. I think you have somebody who's been cleaned up by love. Do i have that wrong absolutely wrong. Because i've known about that fact for a very long time and the only thing that the fact that only eight torito's at the racks studios. Because i was the only thing they could actually leave the studio on. Get cool my lake. We used to just eat french fries for life. Go down here. Just order roy. I've seen you because there's a lot of healthy stuff at the cleveland is relying they are salazar salmon. There's all sorts of it's the beach. There's green everything everywhere you know. What's happened to me me asking a question on an assumption that i've made that i felt was based in fact and i asked roy. Hey can you confirm this him saying you're absolutely right. It's either well. It's none of your goddamn business or i'm wrong roy. That about covers it. Okay roy you're laughing at that because that's what happened now roy. All of us going back to this time when this intern was being sent to the pleasure. Emporium next door. my. I've spent ten years with roy where i've only got you know this to be true. That the only things. I've seen him eat is scavenger stuff when we're some place and he just he's the first one to whatever food is being whatever junk is being brought out because he's a prominent in terms of an eater. He ate the entire menu at prime on twelve. When you were paying us yes he is. Yes oh home. I thought i saw you with a stake in your pocket. I've never seen someone. Box scotch before roy. I this is something that has been and so other than that other than these meals where you're leaving a restaurant with stake in your pockets. You are someone who is for ten years eating doritos from a vending machine for ten years. When and how and where did you become healthy eater guy because all of us are calling bullshit on you on this You know when. I'm at home a liar. He's pointed greg. Abbott cody. just won't take the l also by the way for mr. Everybody knows this about butter. I looked up right here. Google spreads are typically lower in calories fat and saturated fat than butter said plastic. You said that butters healthy that the other plastic. I'm even i didn't say that but it was healthier. I don't see any percents plastic on here. I'm looking at this thing. It doesn't say like ninety eight percent plastic on my margarine up telling her and sixty four percent vegetable oils vegetables. That's good right now. But i didn't say that was healthier. That's not what i said. I found out because one time i was wiping and it was a sesame seed. I did that thing that clients i had to keep wiping marker down there in sesame seed on wa that take a picture. I i almost did every disgusting you ever wipe and have a piece of food there. That didn't break down in your bowels. Probably has you pay a staggering amount of attention to your bells. Yeah well everyone does. No i your poop. Chris the whole concept of being regular. I don't even know what that means. They just have to shit shit. I look at my two young. I've never taken a shit. And i looked at my now unless there's blood in it. Just keep moving men. Where do that was great. We'll to stop wiping billy. If there's listen you looked out for a second. You admire your work okay. And then if there's no blood you move on with. You need the peanuts in their peanuts. I don't care what else is in that. I got to keep checking. Because i need to see the health of my soule because been blood in it. I internalized if i see like a really long big piece of poop. I think to myself. What did i had a good process there way. Bill did you just have my documenting. His shit like a photo log of what's happening just to make sure when things are they want ever since i had diverticulitis i haven't had a healthy poo i haven't had. I haven't had a log poop in. I haven't logged poop since two thousand eight. What yeah. I have a lot of log oops. Let's discuss what we eat differently. Like wire my poops log and years the poisoning the food poisoning. That i got in vegas diverticulitis me totally ruined my intestines of the point. That i can't have a hard healthy log anymore. i miss. I miss the satisfaction or nothing like a lot. I miss like the leg. The liquid just flowing out of you. Like i haven't had that in years diarrhea. Yeah you have. Diarrhea longs for having long solid piece of poop laid down. Hold on a second. We need to revisit this. You missed diarrhea. And you haven't had diarrhea in years. I've had diarrhea. I've had poops where it comes out. Quick but it's like there's just something about that satisfaction of you can release it and it all flows out like liquid as opposed to having to get out of belong to no. I ain't miss. Diarrhea is a staggeringly bet. It's the strangest thing yet. There's a satisfaction you get out of having diarrhea because it comes out. No i'm saying when you're pooping. Maybe this isn't diarrhea when you when you've had maybe mexican food or you've had you've eaten something where it is about to flow out of you and you sit down no struggle there it just floods out of you. That's it's not painful whereas if you have a big log sometimes it can be a bit of a push. What do you think diarrhea is. Just so we're all on the same page in terms of the definition. Well i was thinking. Diarrhea is like when you're sick and you're feeling like shit and you start. Pooping liquid. like. Sometimes i poop liquid. I don't feel like it's diarrhea. Because i don't feel sick. It is a good point about the law and the diarrhea bill. Diarrhea does come out seamlessly. Okay they've never an issue coming out. the log. There is a push occasionally That really really hurts. I mean really. What are you dislike. What's what do you think. diarrhea is. Liquid yeah okay. It's like when you see it when you say diarrhea. I think of being in pain though you can have diarrhea and not be in pain I want to take you inside my shit for just a moment because what i usually do is somewhere between the standard poo and diarrhea it somewhere in the middle. So what i can bread. Yeah when i get the diarrhea. It's actually my only source of satisfaction. Knowing that i'm fully evacuated. That's what's so key about the log poop guys. It's because after it's in the toilet and you have to flush it a few times because sometimes you have these f five's that come back. They you feel like. I can eat anything that i want right now. Wasn't f five and asking. Well there was this whole around the time that bradford was texting his penis pictures to people. He would also text photos his teammates of his soles. Anytime someone had an f. Five there was a big deal so while it's also the The standard score for tornadoes brett farve and his teammates had f five's for gigantic poos. Come on guys. So i would always feel evacuated back in the days prior to two thousand and eight when i had a log and it wasn't toilet i felt ten pounds lighter. I felt like i could attack the day. I don't have that feeling anymore. I miss it. And i only get it through diarrhea. Now you guys agree that attempting to far wall you're experiencing. Diarrhea is the most dangerous of games. Right yes okay. Why would you. Who do you act air. But it on the poll guillermo. Wouldn't you agree that trying to fart while while having diarrhea thank you guys. I appreciate the help. I set this out. Set this conversation purposely. Let's just get to the poll question. You would agree that trying to fart while having diarrhea is the most dangerous of games. I found myself in the real. Catch twenty two what you have to be an poop sporting event and you're not gonna poop at the sporting event right so you're at the urine. Oh because he's been drinking beers but also beers does your stomach is it makes you wanna fart and you're at the urine on european and is a real dangerous game because you don't want to let out the fort may also turn into poop just so for everyone not watching which is everyone. Roy says he only eats the readers at work while eating a bag of doritos at home. She giant bag american. It's red number. Forty eight trying to figure out what team danzon the on team. Big log or diarrhea. Yeah how are you poops. Honestly i was sitting out the whole thing. And i'm gonna continue to sit it out because this is a toilet humor. That really demeans cheapens us on the day that were now that the metal lark flies in sings and john skipper. We've got an artist. You've explained what is your shit look lake. Tell us all right. Hold on a second before we go down this path. Because i'm not interested in having this conversation the what end does your shan't get york like the civil the biggest shits. I don't want to be talking to you guys about this. Let me see your shit and toilet humor. I don't want to do toilet humor. Why i didn't speak the entirety of the post game. Show when if i done toilet humor. That's to god's realm that's how he leads the army. What's the consistency of it. Just hours. I'm not doing this sometimes when it comes out or do you go. Journalists beneath the metal arc the mighty metal are licensed things at the same time. It does not fly in singing. Poops can be above this. Please medlock poop. Also just not. everyone's gotta poop. Yeah it's a book you ever have one of those phantom poops where you're like sitting over the toilet and you feel like what you put in the toilet as substantive and then you look in the toilet bowl in there. What happens to it. What has does it go straight down the drain into. What's did i imagine this pu. That ever happened to you then. This is what i'm not going to do with you guys. What i'm gonna do is watch what you're doing and see that from the seed that was originally in mike's poop where the segment started that has since been fertilized by all this shit. My colleagues are putting in your ears right now. So we'll see song birds soar flying and singing at the same time telling stories that come out of the orifice of its songbird mouth and not diarrhea. Jokes led by stugatz in the army. Did he ever fought with diarrhea. Actually you know the shit dripping down your leg. Jesus christ man hard anymore. I can't believe the disrespect. From billion chris whittingham on diarrhoea. Diarrhoea has a bad name. If it was a different name it wouldn't be of the way it is a different Johannesburg not painful. Chris why do you dislike diarrhea because it is generally associated with unhealth. it is associated with your having. You're having stomach issues. Therefore it's coming up right. It's a long. It's alarming thing to be like. Why is it all liquid right now but it's not a painful experience like it's like wow. I am getting flushed out right now. We can all agree though that the actual dangerous game is the post shower. Shit correct. right can't do that. I just suffer through what is very clearly a diarrhea shit. Just because i'm like. I just cleaned my but i'm not cleaning to begin. I refuse read did. Some research was adjacent spain so back to square one Shit who was it. I mean had you research that. It wasn't jason spain. Because i texted him. Stugotz doesn't remember. Okay i'll tell him. I said a low Anecdote you put obviously for that. Oh apparently he was sent to get coffee You don even though you're not as hasn't did not want coffee and iran going to guts.

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38 | August Battles, Brandon Marhal, Founders of Vance Global

Kannaboomers | Cannabis for Wellness

25:46 min | 1 year ago

38 | August Battles, Brandon Marhal, Founders of Vance Global

"Hits Tom Welcome. Back to the cannon boomers podcast you know each week. We are looking for things to talk about in terms of CBD and cannabis in your own wellness and usually we're looking for something new and this is new but in a way. It's old our guests this week. Our August battles and Brandon Marshall there the CO founders of company out of Milwaukee called Vance Vance's making joints out of CBD rich hemp. So you don't have to swallow a capsule or a tank. Sure or put on a topical patch or whatever you can get instant relief by inhaling it through your lungs sort of the ultimate farm to Table Way to get your CD with minimal processing and and these guys have made a big splash. Their product is already available in twelve thousand stores. Nationwide so clearly. They're onto something in. It'll be interesting to watch this space. But it's a cigarette style joint that you buying a pack. Just like a pack of cigarettes. Only it's way better for you than smoking tobacco so we had a great conversation. I hope you enjoy it. I want to invite you to stop by cannon boomers with a K. dot com to sign up for our newsletter. So you'll always know when the next episode is coming in a big shot to Danny and Milwaukee also Makki who makes a sound good each week and also sent us tweets that we can share. Thanks Daddy everyone else. Enjoy the episode. This is let's talk about the Cannibal. Mors podcasting CBD microdosing in all things related to medical cannabis for baby boomers from San Diego. Here's your host Thomas J. I'm here with August battles in Brandon. Marshall Co founders of Vance they're making CD joints and are having a lot of success. Right now how you doing guys very well. How are you good? Thanks for making the time on a busy Monday. Sent you a an outline his. Tell all my guests we can follow the outline or we can bounce off it but the big topic is guys. Have made a huge splash in a short amount of time. Are You surprised that at your success to this point I would say definitely? Yeah we were kind of shocked by it. We were just kind of you know working jobs in rolling cigarettes at night. Kinda just expecting this to be like thing you make money on the side you know like maybe. I can get a bigger TV by Christmas. Kind of thing but Yeah they ended up turning into you know. Have a factory in more workers really just kind of an all allowed party? It's just been nothing but constantly going and we're really surprised by it and pleased in. I think it's best case scenario really force as so far. That's a great story so just to fill our listeners in we're talking about CBD pre rolled joints right and you guys do a sort of a cigarette style as opposed to sort of the cone style. Yeah Yeah it's It looks like a cigarette. You know same shape and everything. Being Brandon actually had that idea a few years back and we didn't really see it being done so then we kind of just made it happen so as you say in the beginning you guys were just kind of hand-rolling those I soon. It's mechanized now. You have automatic machines. That are probably doing that. Yeah Yeah we have machines you know. We took several months to develop those in. But I'm glad we did because otherwise you'd have about eighty people here using handwriting so you developed a filter to go on the cigarette itself. Yeah that's correct. We developed kind of a unique tube uses hemp paper and we also developed a high flow biodegradable filter. That's healthy doesn't block any CD particles and We also branded our own our own tubes so we have a pretty unique to now. People buy these impacts like a pack of cigarettes. Yeah let's just make sure people understand the difference between Hampton and cannabis right. You're using a a C B D rich hemp. Yes yeah so it looks the same smells the same tastes the same as you know your standard cannabis to know there's different strains and whatnot but I guess it's it's just really not psychoactive at higher doses. It can be but it's really just you know it's really just a relaxing Anti NAUSEA ANTIDEPRESSANT GONNA scenario. It's just a different strain of cannabis so a lot of people can't really tell the difference when they look at So we had in the early days we had to deal with you know a lot of police interactions and you know getting pulled over and things like that but it was you know. Eventually they got the idea. Now you know the police force kind of nose Vance global net. It's a legal product so but the differences are really just feeling based is good for people that don't WanNa lose their minds and on their `blanche break or something at work. So right and I guess we should mention you. Guys are in Wisconsin where cannabis is still not legal right. Yeah that's right. Are you sourcing your hemp locally. Yeah we have Wisconsin farmers that we work with Really just we like to go local last year only about six percent of the have that was grown in. Wisconsin was actually able to sell so we kind of try to help out with you know buying as much as we can locally here than in the early days. We did go through Oregon growers but For the past several months we've been using Wisconsin grow. You know you mentioned. It's an anti inflammatory anti anxiety. And some of the other medicinal properties of the plant. Are Your customers telling you that a they get immediate relief? I mean that's the thing about smoking it right. You don't have to wait for a tablet to digest your stomach or when you're smoking it you're GonNa get a much more instant effect I would think. Yeah that's That's correct smoking. The effects happen a lot sooner than later compared to like ingest in like oil so it usually hits our customers within five minutes and with the lavender being added there's additional anti anxiety properties in calming effects on top of the HAM. So it's just a much more. Effective ways is a smoking because it also absorbs into your bloodstream. Fleiss CLICK THAT. It's you're not gonNA lose any of the CD potency that you lose when you ingest like an oil. It's it's when you smoke. Cbd It's about two hundred percent more effective than if you don't rebel lotion on your elbows or something. So it's It's just much quicker and and as far as you know what our customers are telling us. We get emails and messages reviews every day. You know. It's a lot of people that have medical needs that are saying that you know that. Stop taking their prescriptions Not that I'm saying let's go do that but they just. It's helping them out helping them with their pain. It's helping them with a lot of things out there and it's me brand really haven't had a bad review. It's all just been good things every day which was kind of odd we were expecting. You know the way the Internet is just everybody to be knocking. But it's just nothing but positive in people just saying thank you for having a product like this out there so it's definitely a motivating factor for us. Sure absolutely less summer we heard a lot of negative stuff about vaping and obviously there are a lot of people went to vaping as an alternative to smoking but it turned out that it might be just as dangerous so here you are with an alternative that lets people have that experience of of lighting up but like you said not getting sort of planetary and getting a a shot of medicine right. Yeah Yeah it's an you know. We made the specific hundred milligrams per One hundred and fifty milligrams per se. We we made it that high for a reason to that's an actual medical. Those people take a five milligram oil. Drop or something under their tongue Need about six milligrams of CBD per ten pounds of body fat. So if you're only taking ten MG's every time you're doing something you know they're lying about what's in the oils or you know. It's your smoking other CBD's segments only got ten milligrams in it and you're not really if you're fifteen pounds. It will work for you. But it's not gonNA work for full grown adult so that's why we have two hundred milligrams her stick till so. Do people typically smoke a full stick at a at a shot? Do you think or or some people do and a half or that's pretty nice dose of CBD beginning. Yeah Yeah it's A lot of people do smoke it all the way but also people that smoke half and then save the rest for later. Which is the nice thing about the cigarette? Because it's easier to put out an easier to relight up as opposed to like a joint or something you know where it's Kinda like paper so thin messes up towards halfway through but it's Kinda however you're feeling you know once it hits you and you're like manage but this down then go for it you know so. I interviewed a guy from tweedle farms and they sent me a a cone shaped one and I tried it last couple of nights and yeah the whole thing is like a kind of a big stick to smoke at one setting but I definitely notice some relaxation. And you know I'm not stoned. Which is fine too. It's a nice way to test it in and try it out. I was impressed with it. How about the advantages of smoking over vaping When you think about vaping people don't understand that some of the oils that are invade products in your lungs aren't really made to process. Oil Right. People are getting the Dimona and stuff. People have been smoking longtime time. We know that with tobacco. There's the risk of cancer. Can you talk about Hamp in smoking? Hampton what would be the advantages or disadvantages that yes so I guess if you compare it to being with with they've been there's all types of different cartridges out there most of them are you don't save on but some do have you know cheap metal coils that can kind of contaminate the liquid in things like that. Plus you have to have the additives. Coconut oil the mcat on top of diluting kind of the CD. Isolated or dislike with that with our products is full spectrum. Because it's it's helpful our so it doesn't have to go through processing. It doesn't have to get various different sands removed in order to turn it in isolates or this split is just Full kind of effect when you smoke it and with you know the ham paper and cannabis in general. It doesn't coat your lungs The same way that tobacco does other the Silia in your your lungs will. Actually it gets activated so it it clears all the the by products of smoking from lungs. When you smoke cannabis on. So it's it's it's a really safe way to consume it baby also pretty safe But personally I prefer to smoke other the him. Cigarettes as opposed to drive aping the flower. It dry being isn't really too much maintain either Is kind of like preference. I guess when it comes to drive. They've been but I noticed you guys do sell the flower as well right. We do a lot of our customers. They have their own equipment like they have their on bond their own pipe so they liked to grind it up with the grinder. Inches cannot smoke it out of their pipe. I take it. That's how when you're making joints or do you call pre rolls joints or cigarettes. What do you? How do you refer to them? We call him Vance's can't really technically marketed as cigarette And it's not really a joints so it's we we call him Vance's so we got the term trademarked referred to over here. Yeah that's a good marketing decision to. I think it's it's like Kleenex. Era If you can kind of own it. Yeah that's a good position to be in. So that's great. Maybe we could shift gears and talk for the entrepreneurs in the audience. The fact that you guys started this literally in a garage is sort of a side Hustle. And now you're you're hiring people in running a factory in. Can you talk about being a startup? And I know. There's a lot of red tape around cannabis is it true of the HAMP businesses well Yeah there's definitely a lot of red tape around him and there's also kind of a lot of various different obstacles. You'RE GONNA run into like the banking issues credit card processing issues I. It is a high risk industry to be startup So I guess entrepreneurs out there if you WANNA get into the industry Make sure you have adequate savings. Make sure you have kind of a plan and just kind of do it. I guess the fact that you guys have succeeded. Obviously you hit the right part of this market at the right time will know there's so much. Cbd Out there. I tell people you know. Be careful about buying gas station. You WanNa see if there's a certificate of analysis you want to make sure you have a nice clean product right you know the FDA isn't there yet. Are there other licensing things that you had to do to bring this product to market? There isn't much licensing You you do have to get Industrial Hemp Prosecutor License in your states. you do have to get industrial hemp grower. A license if you want to grow your own stuff Some states don't allow hemp flour to be sold. So if you'RE GONNA start a company this make sure your state actually allows it to be sold and that's the main kind of special licensing that we have that we had to get and you've found a untapped market. How big do you think this is? So what's your sense of how big Vance could become. We've been really exercising. The idea and kind of letting people know that this is an alternative to cigarettes am vaping Which as of today. It's a thirty billion dollar a week industry cigarettes vaping. I mean that's a if we can have something like that Even just one percent of that. I see it being quite large. The only downfall to some of the things right now is that there's so many people now trying to jump into it that don't use quality product and they don't use a quality kind of business model you know the more saturated the CD markets become less power. The people truly have in the easier. It is for larger corporations to come in basically take control so I think if you are going to jump into the CBD markets now Just whatever you're making it better than everything else that's out there. Already that exists. Is there something different that you're doing that people aren't doing you know? Don't just rule up an oil in your bathtub and put it in a jar and be like yeah. I'M GONNA go sell this to people. I think we just gotTa keep kind of pushing the envelope and keep kinda making quality out there. Unfortunately we don't see a whole lot equality in the market. You know my my biggest concern is that somebody tries another. Cbd's cigarette that is in quality and then now for the rest of their life they think seaweed e cigarettes suck you now. They're not giving one gonna be willing to give higher brand a try so you know I would just say make quality keep going right the barriers to entry. Weren't that high for you guys. You're able to stand up a an enterprise and put a product out there which is great but you know there's a lot of innovation to be done yet thor's Topical Patches. There's people are going to be doing. Cbd nose sprays and stuff. I guess some of that might require corporate resources and capital but the fact that you guys were essentially sounds like bootstrapped pretty much now. We really did It was actually interesting. We thought we thought of doing you. Know Patches before the cigarettes even and Is Mentioned Topical Patches? I do. I do think that that's going to be a large market coming. You know as far as the bootstrapping thing that'll be the next thing that I could see being started out of a garage that blows up as well as the patches. Yeah a lot of advantages to those. You don't have to think about it. You put it on in it. And he slapped on. Our biggest drawback is just you know some people. Just don't like to smoke in general and then with the vapes making things easier you know for indoor smoking. You know you don't even have to tell your boss you're hitting the CBD pen or something worthy of you guys Smokers before yeah we. Both we both smoked cigarettes and then so we were kind of making it for ourselves in the beginning in then we actually quit cigarettes using our product here in that was. Kinda like a big. Aha Moment for us because we didn't think it was gonNA work. There's so many things in cigarettes that make it. So you know you're dictated like almost the second or third one you smoke. It feels like you know and then with CD. It's a little sets you down easy so but it did work. It got us off of cigarettes than yeah we were. We were smokers. I smoked for about two years at I smoked for a couple of years to a store factory jobs through temporary work and like everyone smokes so I was like I was smoking. American spirits for A couple years I mean they were. They tasted good but I knew the habit would eventually cause lung cancer and other types issues. So you can have the quit and was kind of a way for me to do that. That's fantastic. I mean like you said we all know that smoking is a bad habit. But they're still it's still there and a lot of people take it up and then struggle to overcome it. But that's the harm reduction aspect of this right. I mean you're you're substituting something. It's really good for you for something. That's really bad for you. You know this. I'm not addicted to the the Vance's per sag which I know that's like a typical thing that inadequate would say but like I can go a couple of weeks without smoking. Wander anything in you know. It doesn't have that kind of chemical dependency that I would say nicotine. Does you know Kinda like we mentioned earlier. Are You did help the jewel k? Mountain? It was it was made for people to get off smoking. Cigarettes WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HEALTHY ALTERNATIVE. Just for them to find out it's five times more addicting. Now you're giving yourself pneumonia instead of lung cancer in this. It was just like you know you smoke it. And then you realize that gives you a better effect than nicotine does keep smokin that instead of nicotine and then you realize that you can go without it pretty easily than you know just. Kinda I duNno it. It really does work. It does everything that the vape said they were going to do back. And then there's sort of a crossover aspect to it. If you're smoking cannabis joint a Lotta Times. You're doing it with other people in your passing it around and there's a ritual to it right. You're cleaning your weed and you're rolling it up in lighting it in. There's you've done it many times and there's something comforting about that in that's true of cigarettes too. I mean I think there's a chemical addiction but there's also a psychological addiction. This is how I relax. I light up so if you can do that in a way that is not delivering tar nicotine into your lungs but delivering some CBD. That's a that's a nice place to be. Yeah Yeah One. Hundred percents of people like drinking. Some people like burning stuff in front of their face. So now I'm all about it. Do you guys pay attention to. I'm sure you do. The some of the minor cavanaugh instead are getting some exposure people talking about C. B. and C. B. N. Do you see room for that in your product. Yeah we definitely do. We've we've tried. Cg CBN before very very similar to CD of you know. I've I've dabbled in. I don't know if we would jump into it. You know as of right. Now I just don't know you know Company aspect than on a personal use aspect. We we don't see a benefit as of right but if we get enough requests for it definitely will consider jumping into it. She BG NC Bien. They're both you know much more expensive right now than CBD part of our kind of a company practices to make quality product. That's at a cheap price so that people can afford to use it. You know who have medical needs with? Cg PROBABLY BE ABOUT YOU. Know maybe four times more expensive There's just not a whole lot of grow operations that are going on in the United States in comparison. Cbd As time goes on in more farmers are growing at maybe there are some who specialize in CBN. I think which helps you sleep so possibly a formulation. That people would after dinner before bed. Smoke a cigarette and we can have a nighttime. 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That's developed through it. And just you know the fact that people are really positive in receptive to it in. Brandon are best friends and we're able to work together every day. You know we don't have to work in factories or working in office for somebody else anymore. It's really just US doing this quality thing and getting a good response to it. It's it really is I. I would say you know exciting. I'd like to see you know what we do. In a few years. We have a couple of products lined up to be released this year. That are you very unique and not been done before so we got a lot of things. Turn I'm excited. As all hell to be honest it sounds like a great place to be a very gratifying business to be in. When as you say you can have positive impact on people in your part of a growing community in your brain about a positive social change which is a lot of fun. Yeah because not. Everybody is lucky enough to have that kind of job. So congratulations just circle back around. We didn't really mention the percentage. Cbd goes through a testing process. Right where there's like a certificate of analysis in it's gotta be below point three percent. Thc Yeah that's correct So as a ham flour Da Is GonNa be the CD is going to be the THC a NBA the Delta Nine thc and with the twenty twenty kind of FDA or USDA guidelines a total thc must be below. Point three percents on Orford to be considered illegal products So I'm going to be source of. We have to make sure the total. Thc is less than point three and then are you working with like organic. Farmers were working with organic farmers as correct. So you can tell your customers. This isn't organic product. And Yeah we have organic certificates as well in case anyone asks for him. Well that's another great feature of the product. So where can we find you online? Yeah you could find us at bans that global dot com. That's a Victor Alpha November Charlie Echo Dash global dot com. Are you guys on Twitter Instagram facebook? Yeah we're we're on instagram twitter and facebook and Pinterest as well. The best way to connect with US would probably be on instagram on. But you can message us on facebook too if you WANNA talk to us on their okay in to be clear. Your product is in retail stores as well. Yeah we're in a about twelve thousand retail locations across the country holy cow. That's that's huge. Are you mostly in the midwest or all over the country? We're a little bit all over. Were highly concentrated in the north of the Midwest the South Southeast in the East Coast. That's great your practice out there all over the place locally our listeners can can find on the shelf and find you online. They need help finding us some email and if they just send us you know their address Find the closest store to them. Is there anything we haven't covered that you guys would like to say covered about everything? Are you in a legal state where you're at right now? 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Silver & Black Pridecast Episode 22: Nicholas Morrow interview from training camp

Silver & Black Pride

25:16 min | 2 years ago

Silver & Black Pridecast Episode 22: Nicholas Morrow interview from training camp

"Welcome back silver bride tasks as always me by damian them flying solo again for this episode mottos training camp with another special episode interview with raiders linebacker nicholas moral. It was really fun talking to him. That interviewed a second just a if you're not really all that familiar with nicholas morals path in the n._f._l. Came out of a division three school impressed early on in raiders the raiders off season as as a rookie and plainly put as a as a rookie two seasons ago he was my pick for the raiders rookie of the year he was the best lime not just is the bed <unk> best linebacker but the but i think he bested the entire rookie class that year and he came on strong late in the season and then he did it again his second season last year was gruden's first year at near the end of the season with a couple of the other young hopefuls he he got he got another shot me and showed welfare himself once again he comes into his third season with the team and he's seen as the team's nickel linebacker right now. He's each season. He's basically had to. I mean obviously you had to start over as a rookie anita start over as a in the second season and then they this this off season than brandon marshall became available sign him and then moral again had to take a back seat to a veteran coming in and so he's going to have to fight his way back into into the lineup back into get earning his reps but something he's used to doing at this point he's also he also carved out a nice niche for himself last year on special teams so that's always definitely ups the value of any player when they can play well on special teams. Moral is one of those players <hes> special teams coach rich <unk>. Several times has has called out moral as being one of his better guys on special teams and you can see it on the field. He makes a a lot of good tackles and blocks both on coverage in return teams so i had a chance to speak with him. He's a really good guy so i think you'll enjoy enjoy this interview as much as i did so i just first of all. This is what your fourth camp third third time together so outside of them running together. You noticed any differences in this camp then cancelled. You're brushing biggest thing is i'm not learning anyway. As far as the scheme knocking now have a little more comfortable your skin because my second year so the same things for the first time it's much more so for the second third and fourth megatonne just going perfect. Take play so it's he's here to play and play and not being almost in this covers listening this just oughta be. She's not spinning anymore. Which i imagine being your that was your second cameron and then this is the first time in your career. Your head hasn't been spending because the first one obviously union fell. I didn't even it was crazy. Isn't i thought about it. I didn't even came not as late my research you know i was literally for training. I was learning some of this stuff real first time out there. Just like all new rhythms man covered everything was mad at me. Yeah i didn't know covers to maybe to the preseason twelve. Oh i made them say. This is going to be there so yeah. I've been learning for love okay. So how does how do you look back on that. I mean when you compare the crazy. You are now clear you were when you came in. I remember people talking about like there. Are people online. I mentioned i was doing a little video couple. Guys need some footsteps. I was i mean there's a lot of new guys rookie minicamp all that and somebody's like oh. That's nicholas more look at him. They look at your work a lot of fans out there for my college without play crazy. I've had eh played against collars him. You division three also. It's kind of special because there's a little the brotherhood and they're all kind of play in the same area. Minnesota guys play in that area too so we are kind of congo close so <hes> i had a couple of people from umag finish. Obviously your big main campus back then and you come into a camp and how do you <hes> i mean there are a lot of guys come that like the the talent where they come from and they come here and they realized allies in there. There are a lot of guys that are just like them. How do you how would you stand out originally to <hes> to get where you are now refreshing coming out of high school i off his threes. I didn't play farsi into my senior year and i didn't play. I didn't play varsity into my senior year because i couldn't play on the senior so they put me on varsity. No one cared sit on the bench and jamboree game macos call from the bench and i hate to get in there and play outside linebacker play man complain man fund football and did that plan saving games. I got got a confession. I was off season season so coming out of college become out of high school. I didn't have human going to greenville other news. All stay all kind of had always uh-huh played played varsity so kind of before i got here i was already in that role of not being begun campus. I play with that that he was like the number two gardening grant hearing camera tanya was like a three star dan. Dan was more forgot his first name. You're playing the south alabama nick running back you gotta you gotta offer a senior so play with avenues token. There wasn't a it wasn't a shock to beauty. God we talk about those videos. People just like really stood out on camera. How quick quick quick your feet. Were always been what <hes> what's caused you to even beat out the other guys quick feet and i guess i've always had the work on. Southbound is still a lot of time for work. A specially called how to come to that was coming out trying to come up and say. I've always always attracted top for working. Take it transitions right now. He's just trying with them transitions and stuff like that as well as the forward yeah i think anyway that's one of the last year last year at the end of the season. Did you feel like you're really were coming into your own late last season as ask linebacker yeah i think i think you know we've talked about it. As a defense is finding. I didn't think slowly things that i was good at figuring all wasted. Steve should strengthen as weaknesses but also like let their strengths shine so i think definitely being able to play next. I got like i'm not paying burke's oliver play with eight always on time. He's always he's in special. Teams like takes a series of true wpro and they helped me as far as getting a defense down because he's they're teaching me but just understanding what i'm good at what i'm not good at figuring out oughta navigate those instances league and <hes> on how to win this is my thing is not like the biggest fastest does not the strongest blake in good hands. He's got good hips feed and he learns how to win place. I think that's one thing i had to learn. How do i win the play with with the skills that i have so yeah yeah figuring on that. What did you learn about how to win. How you win on these i i mean it'd be like you said it's not the big box. I gotta be gotta be able to have gopher work out of ryan. <hes> learn how to route off office. You know understanding the different accents my my full barnabas had to get better basically saying you know with coach and coach. They taught us how to watch film <hes> but also doing you get a you. Get a gun near winner res- you know you're going down to three different. Stubborn show covers. You've got to understand that she used to fall back back me being fast enough. I can step in quickly out understanding not gonna do stuff like somebody like understanding. Nobody's must be i can if i got some type of eh. Tackle wants to come down. I got to get a stretch away from me. Tackle wants to come down on them across his face right now or i can set them up getting his feet and then go and just understand then how can how can win. A certain scenarios in the defense coverage was obviously a lot of my coverages. I mean on the back end with the running back. Indirect coverage you missed up his own so different spots took a little bit for me but lenin different spots and where to being to have coverage in the back as well because it's always it's all got played again. Rush gotta do their thing new into mid mid level underneath the covers stay in deep layers so understanding what they were doing also helped me understand wha okay. I got the running back and just stay inside a little more because like i hope you. I hope you're so just stuff like that. I know there's a lot now. Now i mean that was is is i'm gonna listen to that again. Once just to just to get all of it but but you talk about like using your strengths to to to to win these like maybe the other guys might not be able to do what you're talking about. You said you can just bounce anything. Get out. Give yourself a little more cushion when you guys might not because they might not be able to make up that speed. What about the coaches are they are. They looking at those things and they're playing. They're using you play to your strengths can't say that's a loaded. That's a good question i i think the defense is designed to play in this division kboi. We're doing certain things front with france and the coverages to how with some of the things that we're seeing division and just so happens that the things that we're seeing now division in the first run all kind of famous case it so will your question directly. Yes right like the things that they're doing. I do well the license tackles came on and <hes> second half of the season easy came when off the dilemma moving off the play against cincinnati in arizona right we had hank he'd be going across his face stunt. We had in a new pay once he goes there can go to right now is open. I went there. I got here fail against joe. Mixing understanding the different line movements 'cause i really helps me that the different line woman's because it keeps in office and offering obviously. I'm not a not the biggest do so i need. I need to be able to move around a little bit in the lime. Movements health the free so yeah we do a couple of moments that helped me a line movements off some of the front's every doing placements kosovo. We <hes> started defense starting coverage. I mean really placed in moscow. Say let's just sit in the middle lane and use my places and so there's certain things that we're doing as a defense <hes> believe christmas especially on the front line as far as the fronts some covers the other installing after last season <hes>. We're probably like you said you see you said you were feel like you. Were coming into your own. As you feel like you had like they bring in brandon marshall bill he's great coverage linebackers for that. You're known for that does feel like third year your he might have had had a chance that that starting job and now you're going to have to start over the bed. Oh that's a good question a call whereas my guy said he showed me a <hes>. I'm not starting over from you know from the bottom starting over some experience starting over you know i've got two years as of experience under my belt which has been good for <hes> but no learning from brennan marshall is definitely hope i like this is not the first time they brought in veterans right ricky broaden of all bowling the secondary brian johnson e man tell you everybody involved says and brandon so you know i've. I've had to take a step back and learn from guys. The biggest thing is when you're in this position. Is you gotta learn you sit there and say i gotta plan like i'm now. It's my time and we should tom cruise. You're never ready so i'm just taking him a step back and just do i. I can learn a lot from bernie more from by been assistant learn from no not necessarily a bigger do all right how to spend is deficient in the big. Thing is our division opinion. You look around and you know. We're not going to a lot of proline right and i got throwing hunger. Spread you out for to cover tight end for sure to cover running back for you. Take brandon marshall c._n._s. icon from that guy so we've got to sit there and learn much property comes. You got yesterday practice. We're talking about here even brandon marshall being coverage linebackers at some point after after teeth session you probably know where i'm going but but like they ran two routes to running backs watched it against the french marshal and he kind of shook him out of us there and then the next one will be against or was it was doug martin and you stay with them and knocked that ball done. Is there any kind of like when you guys get back over there like yeah ah i got it. I got this one for me man. I like like i say i can't. I can't look at it like that because i learned a little bit and i learned from his mistakes there too right right. That's funny. You said. I didn't look at it like that. I just kept waiting to i wasn't like this. You know i was paying attention to what they're doing the stuff that was trying to figure something knocking. I can do it okay so it's basically every player in the n._f._l. As as areas that wondering season obviously this being your third third season. What what areas would you say. You're focusing on specifically right now to to uh biggest thing is recognizing formations <hes> jet motions y emotions those different types of r._p._o. Looks like is understanding. The formation offices are doing you know a couple of times last year. I found found myself in no man's land because i didn't see the flashers. I didn't see the jets. I didn't see the goals desk just understanding those different formations and mostly the dog missile doing pre snaps. It helped me. You know make that make that faster because some some of the players that i missed i could've made plays. I just couldn't understand hey. This is what to do so just getting taking the next understanding office is trying to do to us in search of sales off for macy's every time. We've mentioned <hes> special teams around. He has seemingly made a point to bring you up like don't forget tomorrow what he did last season what he did for me last the season. He's one of our national teams guys how how important how big a special event for you and your career yeah until i'm sachi she was here. I didn't care rookie year. I play with the first two games. I played all over them and got more tasted in kind of took me off a lot of them. I was just waiting point last year. Obviously when all veterans came in i stepped until special teams role thinking about with coach massage. You and i love about him. Where you hate about him is that he takes his <hes> very serious. He hopes to a high standard. He's gonna get the most out of on makes you in my opinion. He makes you wanna be especially. Seemingly makes you want to play so. I poured special teams to me. You know i think allowing any player wants to be solely on special teams playing for a guy like coach massage you <hes> do any. I i love my coaches. Actually i think the system works. I think he finds ways stealing carriages. This guy's finds ways to put you in my spots play next two guys. I know marquel out there. Playing a cow woven air cares <hes>. It's fun you god that you've come in with as far as eric marquel so not hot important. Obviously kicking game is very important but plan foreclosure saatchi for me. It was more important important nuclear mutation getting. Thanks a lot in fact your thank you wilson once again. Thank you to nicholas moral for joining me for the silver and black pride cast few of the interests most more more interesting things that i think he said in that interview were first of all. This is an interesting because it kind of dawned on me in the middle of the interview when i was talking to him that this is the the first time he's had the same defensive coordinator in the same scheme two years years in a row in his career when we talk about how this they'll how derek carr back in two thousand sixteen was the first time he had saved the offensive coordinator his second season in how so you could see how much progress he made a lot of people expect him to make that kind of progress this year but we don't really talk about a lot of the defensive players being being in the same situation i mean moral has outplayed his expectations coming out of a division three school his first two seasons so will it seems logical to expect that he's going to take another step forward in the second year with the same defensive coordinator in the same scheme and that's. It's basically what he said. Is that the the one thing that's different. Now is his head spinning. He's he's not having to learn everything all over for again and emmy as a rookie he came in. He said he came in late to try to <hes> to the obscene practices so in training camp he was still in the learning process and by then you're supposed to be kind of moving past learning the scheme kind of just getting it in your body and so he's been fighting from behind find his first couple of years and now he feels like he's really able to take that next step and and just kinda learn the intricacies of the of the offense sunday and the intricacies of the scheme that he's playing on defense. I mean this is a guy that shockingly if you look at anything no way lake he'd ever played any position but but on probably on defense or or at least like a skill position some kind and he says he played offensive line which is it's just crazy to me. I look into this guy ever played a position on the offensive line especially being as fast as he is quick feet. We talked about that and he's just he's known for me. Coverage linebacker how you go from playing offensive line to being an n._f._l. Coverage linebacker that is this talented as he clearly clearly is is pretty amazing really impressive the the learning curve that he's had to overcome and also another thing that really stood out to me what he's talking talking about how it can easy to get discouraged when you're in his position too where you where you feel like. You've really thought to get to where you are car and you've earned something. Maybe perhaps starting job especially when you think about last year i'll late in the season. He was right there. Alongside aside guys like karl joseph an eric harris in their progress and being a standout on this team that needed to find some good young foundational final pieces and yet he comes into the season once again with them having brought somebody in in placed veteran brandon marshall and place them ahead of him on the depth chart and that could get discouraging friend frustrating but at this point in his career i think he's got the right mindset when he talks about like if you sit if you sit and say that now's my time and i got to be playing right now than it's gonna hurt you as a player you have to sit back and and learn so that when your time does come and it may you know injuries happen brennan marshall head injuries last year he was at a lot of the off season and a guy like nicholas moral he has to stick advantage of the extra rep's he gets in those situations and if <hes> marcia goes down he has to be ready to step in and once again proved that okay this is my time and once they all shakes out. It's possible that the at the end of his his contract with the raiders which should be well. It'd be this year for his regular contract and they'd be a restricted free agent. He can either get the get that starting job by earning it with the raiders or you can get that starting job earning it with with another team so he's just you gotta be ready for that opportunity to present itself and i also like appreciated his candor when it comes to special teams house first couple of seasons angles first first season that was <hes> because the raiders were just like really desperate for for guys to step up on defense. He didn't play a lot of special teams and you didn't see a lot of value and he was always any came in and they kind of played in more and more on defense and took him away from special teams <unk> and he didn't really it wasn't really a big part of his his <hes> his path has value and then associate comes in puts him on special teams and besides being. I'm the kinda guy that he is a very passionate very outspoken profanity laden coach that he is just kind of of you know inspired him. I guess you could say given that fire and he now he's excited about playing special teams and he should be because as you mentioned engineer you play on special teams eight increases your value as an n._f._l. Player if it comes right down to it if you're if you're not seen as a sure-fire starter when it comes right down to it and it's between you and another guy and you play better special teams they're gonna pick you. You can carve out an n._f._l. Career being a sometimes starter her but a guy who always plays on special teams. You got kyle. Wilber is a great example. He's not starters not even second-string most of the time but he plays so well on special teams that he keeps getting n._f._l. Contracts and he mentioned cow will burn that and eric harris is another perfect example guys kind kind of been a borderline usually backup last year. He was able to find on the starting line lineup but he keeps getting deals and he keeps carving out an n._f._l. Career because he plays so well on special teams in and you know they say fist football is special teams and there are probably on any given team probably three or four guys will rarely ever see the starting lineup but are valuable because they can get down the field has a donor or they can block on return teams or for dwayne harris. They can do a bit of everything so found it to be a really enlightening interview with more i knew him to be a great guy and i was glad glad to sit down and have the conversation and i will be guys enjoyed our talk as well learn a little bit about the kind of player he is and why i think you'll probably i think he's gonna gonna stick in the n._f._l. For n._f._l. For a long time honestly i do all right. Thanks again for listening. Everybody and we'll see again hopefully pretty soon and on the silver and black pride cast <music> <music>.

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SPECIAL PREVIEW - Lights Out with Shawne Merriman - Shawne Merriman Talks With 6x NFL Pro Bowler Brandon Marshall About Life After Football And Is Brandon Stepping Into The Boxing Ring?

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14:52 min | 8 months ago

SPECIAL PREVIEW - Lights Out with Shawne Merriman - Shawne Merriman Talks With 6x NFL Pro Bowler Brandon Marshall About Life After Football And Is Brandon Stepping Into The Boxing Ring?

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A one hand back boom boom boom out go the lights. This is lights out with Shawne Merriman. What's up guys were back what they nother lights out podcast me. Sean Merriman and we bring on day one of my former competitors. One of my favorite guys were one of my former competitors and just all around solid do one of my favorite guys may Brandon Marshall just talking about are days when I was at the charges and he was playing with the Denver Broncos, our epic battles man we used to have and the the back and forth talking with Jay Shoulder and Philip rivers we get into we talk about just mental health. We get back into that he's always been a huge advocate of of that also. You know just. The transition from. Football Sports in general get it into your next thing I I tell a lot of guys went when you retire it's. The hardest thing is finding something to do right away not having downtime whatever you will you love. You have your passion is getting into a right away. Because that day space is is the worst base you can be in because we're used competing we used to going added everyday working out brandon also has a outstanding Jim and whole. You'll supplement line and everything he's he's building his Brandon is immaculate. House of Athlete I still gotta get out to to work out is going to be a New York and opens up on begin twenty one So look you bring it on Brandon but man, he has a bunch of things for of also could he be competing combat sports? You know I I said that it's going to be a ton of former athletes with Ritz NFL, NBA a rugby hockey there's going to be transitioning. From their respective sport. It's a combat sports. You know these guys were done in four or five years played had a short career may be injury may be this way to games go and they still want to get after they still want to compete. So is Brandon Marshall got to be and trying to world combat sports and I've been a big fan of been been training MMA boxing me tie and just recently got into Jitsu over the last six months in. I. Think it's a a discipline that we all can find a way and get into. So brigadier my boy Brandon Marshall. Yeah I mean this is frequent as frequent I. Hope Hopefully, we're rolling out the interview that this whole podcast of the start already has it started. Yeah we all we all frigging lights out in. He has announced plastic backdrop down lights out. The guy to have the probably the number one celebration in all of sports. Just a monster. I hated going against you. It was like we knew we didn't have a chance in Denver like we knew. Like going into the game, we had one second to throw the ball. Halfway in my route, five yards down the field. All you here's the crowd going. Look, at bagged Sanjay colored is getting smashing slits. And you gotTa freaking plastic backdrop. They kill me got I got to to back here they smash me. You know the funny part, the funny part about coming down a plane y'all when you wear Denver is when j colored that was down in Philip Him and Philip Rivers. Used to get in it so much. So that was. That was one of the craziest things seeing because they were standing in the middle of the field and I'm like somebody's won't throw a punch yet. This is getting crazy yet. Yeah. But the best part about it don't like is. They would actually be on the sideline eat something yards apart arguing. And fighting I remember we played you got Sunday night football, Monday night football and and they did a great job of covering. All you see is you know camera films based. Camera in space in those two just yelling at each other across the Phil unbelievable. Yet those some great times man and I never forget to look in. During the game I was looked down and I saw this big ass do standard as six foot four plus now my whole on look like mega like. Dan Superhero in the field and I think he's just completed an out or something like that I'll pattern and the stepped onto hell out of one of our guys. One of my one of my teammates, you Clinton Jam Clinton Dan I want get out Quentin Jammer and you guys have some crazy as battles. MC. Battles back on. And I'm like I would getting into that too because he we had he was my first guest. On own for the lights, our podcast and. One of the things we were talking about man that did I didn't know what Clinton and Equipment Clinton was tight. You know we talked all the time and even yeah, I retired. Just, he retired I would just call in know do random checkups brian good and stuff like that. So to me everything was always good. And one of these. I just found out doing a podcast with him probably about a year ago is he was going through his own mental health stuff and done with a whole lot. Got Done playing and. Single. Man. Man. I had. You know because we all we all got this thing like we tough. We're not. We don't complain. We don't make excuses. We find a way we get through everything and I'm always talked to jam all the time I hit him up and he never said anything he never brought anything up. And he talked about you know contemplating them one point taking his life no You know a few years back and I was like man, you know what I'm so glad that checkup on guys and stay in contact with guys because you just never know. Man Bro. I. Just got goosebumps thinking about that in anger be honest with you. I feel guilty because I don't think I'd do a good enough job of checking up on my guys. I have my guys write you know the Elvis boomer billy of the world even Jay Cutler there's a few guys that I reach out to stay connected Ryan Lady So. But when I think about outside of that circle I, don't do the job of checking up on my ex teammates and here I am this Guida champion mental health that talked about it every. So no that that's that's inspiring to me man in you know just hearing you talk about Beden. In entail jam story because there are so many people suffering and just a phone call can can help somebody could save somebody's life and it sounds. Farfetched but it is true. Yeah. In Y- made a I made a point of the things we talked about his junior sale you don't his passing and him. Going through what he went through and taking his own life. That after that that was like the thing that where I started checking up on everybody I could ever you've had your number. Maybe once every few months I would shoot new attacks dog or Dan good has a fam-. Do, you do that to me. Yeah. You you. You you. You're the reason why me why we still we have a relationship you know like we competed against each other. We saw each other that super bowls. We saw each other at events and I just thought it was a mainline, check my messages and it's like man lights just hit me up just to say what's up. So I didn't know that was a real intentional thing. I just thought she was a dude. Nah I am. Not like. You know it's a specific reason but you know I always feel like is a need to check up on guys man and you know sometimes somebody will tell you everything all everything. All goodness another time you know somebody might open up to you and say some. So that one time somebody you know you might be looking out and could change the course of actions in is is so important man especially. When you get done like I, I, tell anybody that was talking to tonio gates. This was right when he was retiring in about to retire anyway he was like. He wanted he wants to radio and broadcast and stuff like that. I'll get into everything you got going on to and I was like man, you know the the best thing to do as soon as you done is star rolled into something else like that that blank space. So you have with this year to exit. No, don't don't take no time off man all sit around four year and try to figure it out. Get right into the next thing man I think you jump you jump right a drone nells. Yeah. So two, thousand, nine, December, two, thousand, nineteen I had an opportunity to play for the saints had a cup of tea my last stop and I was there for a month. after practice one day coach Peyton comes in and the receiver room he asked. Brandon talk to. Pulls me out in the hallway and literally get right to it like, Hey, we're gonNA. Let you go. Came available on the waiver wire we didn't think we were GONNA get him. We put in a claim we gotta make space won't let you go weren't try to get you back anyways that that was the last that was the last time I stepped foot in any NFL locker room in any NFL. Building and that was it for me and I was preparing for that moment lights. In Two Thousand Fifteen I put together this plan to do exactly what you said to roll into the next thing television I had my facility already open I was rolling. And I said, okay I'm going to be prepared for this moment because it won't be me. And literally for four four days man as late in bid I, didn't get out of bed. My wife and kids were still in Seattle. Can I started the season there in Seattle Plan for the SEAHAWKS? Cut went to saints. So my wife and kids are there and they're on their way down they're getting ready to come spend the holidays in. New Orleans. In for four days after coach Peyton told me that you're letting me go I laden embiid I didn't take a shower I didn't even think I may have gotten up just get some water and it wasn't like I was depressed. I just had out of body experience where I was like this is what they're talking about when it's over, you know we hear about these stories all the time how our guys are suffering, Howard guys you know even the the horror stories I say our they complete suicide and I just remember thinking like, wow, I prepared for this moment and I'm still not prepared. And only thing a gap me out a bit. Was Me after go to the airport to pick up my mom. And my wife. And then obviously having a mayor, I was able to snap out of it but I thought it was a out of body experience and if it wasn't for House that. Bro I'm telling you I will be hurting right now just like a lot of our guys but this has been a huge distraction for me. 'cause I've I'm super in love with what I'm doing I'm passionate to me. It is mental health is what I tried to do on my profit side. So you're so right man you gotta jump into something right away something that's going to. 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Nets/Bucks Game 6 recap, Take Your Pick, Giannis' legacy, Kemba Walker for Al Horford & Moses Brown trade

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Nets/Bucks Game 6 recap, Take Your Pick, Giannis' legacy, Kemba Walker for Al Horford & Moses Brown trade

"We're all shopping for essentials online these days and now you can get rewarded for it with the bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent cashback on online shopping. The essentials have never felt more rewarding visit bank of america dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright twenty twenty one bank of america corporation to first things first. Thanks for joining us this morning. Bucks win and we've got a game seven set for tomorrow whose legacy is most at stake. Meanwhile luca in zion are both unhappy. Campers could be on a new team by next season and tom brady and patrick mahomes share this year's madden cover with that. I'm going to bring in kevin wild alongside brandon marshall and nick right. Nick since grade was so gracious. Gracious to share the matting cover. Perhaps you could also share some super bowl rings. he asked many. Your guy only has led to the fans some of the chiefs fans out there the go. We're not starting the show with the show over okay. We're her son. Kevin wild sierra longside brandon marshall. Start this morning in. Milwaukee nets box game. Six jaanus in. Chris middleton clearly with a sense of urgency from the opening tip middleton ended up with a game high thirty eight janas had thirty in the bucks. Lead wire-to-wire in this one they get the win and force a game. Seven here with steve. Nash whose arms were not crossed during the press conference on what went wrong last night. We didn't look like we had a tone of energy all night. you know. i think we wanted it. We just couldn't find it and when you find that rhythm it makes it even harder so some kind of chicken. The i you know is the the rhythm. Because you don't have the energy or the is compounded because you don't have a rhythm self was just not our best gaming. The bills his moment simple. That and nobody is going to be easy. Yea might be hard but We are we capable of doing it. You know so. Everybody's my said was certain. Everybody came to play came to compete and That's all i can. I know for my team. Motley game seven and Game nick was gained. Six more of a dud from glenn just great execution from milwaukee. Sorry i'm a little distracted by janas hand. I feel like he should do every press conference with his hands in front of his face. What the hell is. That's why he's called the greek freak got twelve inch fingers all right now to the answer. Listen brooklyn isn't just outta gas. They they ran out of gas a few miles ago. Kevin durant admirably pushed the car trying to get it to the highway exit. But now he's heaving on the side of the road. I i didn't think milwaukee played great last night. Brandon middleton played great. I've thought janas played pretty well. And i thought brooklyn looked so exhausted and so spent and you have to be the generic. You actually also to specific brandon marshall. I think concerned that. What are they going to have left in the tank for a game. Seven right they have been. Milwaukee led wire-to-wire brandon. But it was brooklyn was always you felt like maybe they could get there and they cut it to five in the fourth quarter and because of that nash played katie and harden once again almost the entire game until he waved the white flag with the form at the four minute mark so i think this was more about brooklyn having emptied the chamber in game five and now we'll see what they have game seven because they looked like they were on bad legs last night. Yeah the books again shooting. Twenty one percent from three. They struggled in different areas. But you hit it on. Hit middleton was absolutely phenomenal this do look like katie The the the nets nets man that was brutal to watch. I'm not gonna lie to you. Watch that game. You just knew any minute or any moment. That team was going to take off the bugs taking off the nets. You had katie. Who did his job. he didn't go. He didn't go over and beyond. He didn't overcompensate like he did the game before but he did his job. He kept them in that game. James in actually contributed a little bit more but james harden need to get hot from three. Obviously he can't move the way he used to move because of that hamstring. He doesn't have that burst but he has to get hot from three. He's creating space out during the perimeter and he just has to hit these shots if he hits the shots in just a little bit more you may see them in in control last night and then moving forward and game seven you may see them and control joe harris again joe. Errors has turned himself into ben. Simmons and i hate the status. But that's that's that's what we're witnessing. Joe is now twenty. Two are ms twenty two shots from three last twenty seven shots from twenty twenty two of his last twenty seven shots from the three point line. That is a problem joe. Come on man. You need to step up eighty. You need the help. You need to contribute. That is embarrassing. Yeah when you're joe hairs you gotta do a little bit more. You literally lead the nba in three point percentage. And now you're just disappearing. Yeah yet listen. There are a lot of lebron fans out there that are saying to kevin durant fans. Hey have you met kyle korver. Because his name's joel harris the league leader during the regular season in three point shooting on the playoffs. You rely on and you get open shots and nothing and wilds. what is interesting. About joe harris. Is they needed. From joe harris. What jeff green gave them in game five so hard if you look at hardening as the combined off into performances game five hardening katie combined for fifty four points on fifty one percent. Last night they combined for forty eight points on fifty one percent now granted. It came in very different fashions. But those your two guys combined for about the same points on similar efficiencies. The difference was in game one game. Five pardon me. They had eighteen assists combined because the other guys were hitting shots. Last night they had ten assists eleven turnovers combined so it really was hardened enough scoring to offset. That didn't have an all time. Great game but no one else from brooklyn could give them anything. They had one bucket off the bench. Same with milwaukee by the way until the garbage time and they just had no juice. Okay so i thought the story was jaanus. And here's why. I think janas pulled off the hardest thing to do in all of sports if i ask nick say what's the hardest thing to do in sports like hit a baseball hall. It's a round ball with around that or maybe it's it's hit a hole in one in gaul or thread the needle in the nfl. Not it's not. Here's the hardest thing to do in all of sports home basketball. You know it. It's when you're defender says shoot that shoot. I'll give that to you and then you don't shoot it. That's the hardest thing to do and janas wasn't able to do it for the first part of this series and then finally last night. He's like you know what don't shoot the ball on. Don't shoot the ball. Can we show kirk goldsberry stack containing if we have it up. Look game one ten feet. This is average shot distance game to eleven game. Three twelve game four basically nine game five nine last night. Five point six is shortest of the playoffs. Great job kirk so nick. I thought that is discipline. Was the story of last. Night's game blake was trying to give him any everything. They're trying to bait him into taking that little foul line jumper. He was either driving. Or just kicking it out. And i thought that is the recipe for for. Excuse me milwaukee win the game also. There's no one down there. They still don't have a rim protector. So this is still working just like it worked in the regular season. And that's why. I think milwaukee could end up winning game seven and i wanna get brandon's take on this because brandon always mentions these books. I apologize. I don't remember their name. I feel like warrior athletes. One of them. Something like that. You need warrior way way of the peaceful warrior. Something so but it's about it's about the a lot of them seemed to be about the mental and psychological side of sports and brandon before these playoffs janas had a fascinating press conference. Were one of the things he said he was like. Yeah i can't promise you were talking to be different than last year. I don't know i hope it. Who knows but the other thing he said was. I need to make sure. I don't get too high on the highs and to low on the lows and what we've seen in this series brandon. Is there have been two where janas should have been or would have been low. They were down by forty nine in game two. They lost by thirty nine points and they came back one game three and then game. Five jaanus fumbled it away down the stretch and now you're seasons on the brink and katy lick you on fire. And he came back again. It really feels like he didn't let himself brandon get too low with the lows and now we hope after game six isn't get too high with the highs. You can't do it. You know like i always tell the younger guys one of things. I used to tell myself when. I play when we win. Or if i have a big game. Don't hang from the rafters. You see guys do all the time like they want. They hit a game winning. Shot in game seven. Close out game. And then they're dumping all on the score or on the scores table and energy celebrate. And you can't do that every single moment every single game and when you lose don't hang your head you gotta be even kill your entire career that the hardest thing to do i never mastered it but you hear you on this talking about it all the time so absolutely because those moments when it's a closeout game for you in everybody's saying well you're not even a number one. How do you go from a two time. Mvp back the band time mvp to now saying you're not even better than chris middleton. That is a debate. Happening other shows not Our show but there's other there's other shows talking about. He isn't he best player on his aid. So that's when that turn that into high not get too low kicks in. I will say this is before we go. You know nick you brought up something. As far as guys you know the nets being spent. I saw one guy last night jeff. Green uncle jeff. Green was terrible. He just wasn't getting back now. I love you uncle. Jeff greg thank you so much for what you did you gain five but man i need you to rest up because we got close out games that game seven. I may doughty twenty five. I don't. I don't mean to be rude here because i could've played college. Basketball's been following the nba. His whole life but brandon is getting his first taste of what we call the jeff green experience celtics fans got it got it got it for half a season with the cavs and it's like jeff green number five of the draft born. He can go thirty and then the next game. It's like jeff green blade. He was there really eight minutes. I love you so yeah we just don't know why don't forget you let them. You'd have a jeff. Green jersey apec backed up on the board. At one of these superstars is on a new team next season. We discussed next first things first. That's game encapsulates. 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Pelicans may want zion on a new team. So brandon lot of news here to breakdown. Which star is more likely to their way out. Luca or take. This is an easy answer for me. I'm gonna take all of the family matters out have been i'm gonna take the basketball out of it. I'm a. I'm a leaning into the personalities we get zion williamson who's from He's a little country boy from south carolina's martinsburg k. He's soft spoken. He doesn't he's a superstar but he doesn't carry himself as a superstar. What do i mean by that superstars. Got a little bit of superstar. Got a little bit of a whole list in them and so when you think about that. You look at luca you like. Oh you have a little bit of that in you. Have that little bit of mob mentality where you're like you know what on the court i can. Switch the switch on right. I can go take your head off and so when you to answer this question. I gotta go with luca. Because he has that he's a nice guy never really met him. He seems to be a nice guy. Seems to be a nice teammate. But he also winds a little bit. He also powell old. He also snatched on other guys out there on the court and that his teammates the opposing team. So i gotta go at luca for that matter at luca. Has that superstar diva little bit of eight. holy you know mentality. So here's the thing brandon. I know you said you've never really met luke. I obviously haven't met him. I raised them. Here's where you're wrong. Not that nice of a guy. Actually kind of a jerk takes after his dad very good at this job. Not everybody likes him. Kind of mean time. You didn't you didn't want to insult my son. And i appreciate the. However the reason i think the answer zion is because i trust the mavs organization. I don't trust the pelicans organization. Pelicans just hired stan being gundy. Nope that didn't work and with respect to stand in who everybody adores. You know how i knew wouldn't work. I watched detroit. Oh no not going to work. So i just think the mavs have a longer track record of stability i think cubans a good owner. I think the front office they have left are very smart people. i know. Luca's upset listened. Donnie nelson was in spain scouting luca when he was fourteen years old. So i understand the affection there. But luke also not unhappy. They got rid of carlisle. So i think it's probably about even for luca. And i think zion. It's just tougher new orleans unless they start contending immediately. It's a small market. It's always going to be tough to get free agents there so it's one of the two wilde's zion. Yes so i'm gonna think it's i think it's luca by a hair neck. And here's why just on this these right here. New orleans just needs a coach and to steal one of men genie's favorite phrases if they get the right coach. I'll say chauncey chauncey can go in and be a force multiplier in change everything in be cool. What happened in dallas. Because you've got the harare. Bob thing you've got donnie nelson out and then rick carlisle just basically leaving when mark. Cuban kind of like felt like it was unexpected so that one just feels more chaotic than hey. We made the wrong higher. We're going to get the right hire for you. Does that make sense. It makes sense. I just think i i look. I'm going to be a great player. maybe winning. mvp luca. Luca wouldn't be the best player that a team traded since kareem light. Lebron left on his own. Katie left forced his way out. Veal you know so. It's i just think embree bring will give up before he can do too little. Tim percent bitcoin. Maybe a little bit going. S something a little hard to lanka stamp texas A sixers hawks game six tonight in atlanta hawks lead three two brandon. There's your guy. Mbp go sunday. he's also your guy. You like six hundred hawks. i'm gonna go with. I'm gonna with the hawks look. I'm thirty nine minutes away from state farm arena in this going to be rocking tonight. I call and i was like me now. We would love to go to the game and they said it was ten thousand dollars. But i'm not playing ball anymore. I'm not making that much money. So that tells me that you're going to have the migos. There are talked to cam. Newton cam newton's courtside. And i know it's going to be rockets. They are deflated. the philly is done. I don't know where tobias got trae young who's just a just a savage. He's gonna fight for nothing. I don't need wild. I got the sixers but go ahead. Listen i got the sixers while sixers four game seven. Go ahead wild earlier. This when brandon was at his facility he added visitor come in and he was shouting off to someone on the distance. Yes tell the chef to get my friends and food. So i thought it was gonna go that way. We're not said. I thought somebody who did you call. That's just a random person. Wouldn't courtside seats. You should be proud of you. Said no i save albert. I'll give them to the migo. Please cyber wearing a wonderful. Start with the weird. Hey this is the second triple play the yankees pulled off this year. is that a normal triple. Nope just another example of terrible based running this guys in the middle shortstop you. Someone should be safe here. At least one person should be a awful play. I'm gonna call the yankees highlight. Because i'm in optimistic mood for friday but overall is a terrible terrible blake polo blue jays. Moving onto the wonderful. Hey you. I don't like the shift but manny machado is out there and right meal somebody else. Oh hey sorry chef. You're like you great way. My manny machado. I don't know how you draw this off. The you're keeping score. Grandfather problem is. He passed away anyways back. We're raised man vs randy rose arena throws his bat. This bitch way outside the base it. Hey it's a good. It's a good job so great job rainy reason. That's the weird. And the wonderful national pastime. Take you up. Take down to roller coaster. When i'm hosting back talking the honest legacy behind the line tomorrow night game. Seven head to brooklyn next. This is first things first wild migrant. Welcome back thanks for joining us back talking nets box janas milwaukee dominate last night. Game six greek freak attack the rim finished with thirty points seventeen rebounds led from start to finish to win and force a game. Seven tomorrow night in brooklyn nick. What do you think's on the line for you honest tomorrow. Not much just everything. Just as coach's job of the front office guys and how. He's looked at as a player. And i want to talk about iana says a player here because it is we've sometimes swing the pendulum to far and after game five swung too far against and it speaks to how good he is that last night he had thirty points and seventeen rebounds in a must win game on sixty percent shooting and i don't think anyone thinks he played great thing like. Oh yeah you play very well. Played pretty good. He had thirty and seventeen in the biggest risk. And we're like. Yeah that's about what we thought he would do. But he wasn't a signature moment. A but here is what jaanus can gain with the victory on saturday. Because you look at the east philly is down in the series limping literally and metaphorically and with respect to the hawks. I don't think anybody thinks. The hawks can match up with milwaukee size and now west. Who knows what the hell's going to happen is done for the year. Is he going to be back in a couple of days. Is utah gonna win. What's going on with chris. Paul uncovered protocol milwaukee. If they win. Saturday i you could. Credibly say become the favorites to win the championship and wilds. There are a lot of great players. Who in route to their first championship. Their toughest test was not the championship for michael. It was detroit. They beat them a bunch of times and then finally dispatched them. And then the finals was a walkover against portland for shacking kobe. It was portland. It was that seven game war against portland. For their first title and then it was a walkover in the finals for lebron. It wasn't the thunder who the beaten five. It was boston who they were down. Three two against and lebron played the finest game of his career. And then a damn good game seven so for jaanus if you if you win saturday and it's like oh you beat the defending eastern conference champion annihilated. Jill last year in around one year then took katie's best shot harden came back and you beat them in around two. maybe you play embiid. Maybe you play trae. Young around three eighty s. There is all of that there for the taking and brandon. If they lose. He's going to be on almost assuredly another new head coach they're going to try to re tweak the roster and they're gonna say we hope next year is different so everything's on the line for him. Yeah but i'll be honest with you. Nick them moving for them. Advancing for me won't be respected. I mean you saw wah who they were and games one in games two when when when the nets worse semi loaded. They didn't have. James harden. James horan played forty set in this series before. He came back when he wasn't supposed to and they got ran off the court. So when you look at that. I can't respect it and unless we get the hawks wrong then i can't even respect that. The hawks are playing great ball. Know nobody pick the hawks to be a contender this year. So go on. These beat the hawks. And then you got the you got philly philly ben. Simmons and two buys averaging five points in the last couple of days. I can't respect it. Now here's the deal. What's on the line. The narrative the narrative two years ago that you could potentially be the best player also like you said the coach being fired. That's a big deal. That's tough as a player when you play. And then all of a sudden you see guys being fired and in packing up their stuff literally pack up their stuff and walk out the building and you can look at us they you know what maybe if i caught that ball or maybe if i had a couple of extra rebounds still be here so the big deal. You're honest don't wanna carry de throughout his career knowing that but is a guy that stood on the table for them. They have a great relationship and he may be fired. Because of your plate you in developed quick on quick eating quickly enough to help your team contend for a championship because that's what it is and also the last thing. Wiles is the fear factor. I don't know if guys fair them anymore. I don't know if anybody fares him. You know like we know what you are one trick pony nets it so you know. There's there's some things that lose. I don't think it'll be respected. If they advance yeah. I know people definitely fear the deer but it is a good point. I don't know if they fear janas roll off the tongue. I think nick his legacy is on the line. Because you can either be tagged with the winner hat if you wear the winter hat all your flaws. Kind of go away. Like he's a winner though. He's a winner. Old tim tibo. He gets the job done. He's a winner. What he can't do this this doesn't matter. The guy's a winner janas hasn't been able to wear that hat and until you wear the winner hat or the winner. Crown memory have a little imaginary winter crown. All of your flaws are prominently on display the lack about shooting the fact that you can't go home at the end of the game the fact that you don't really have a post game the fact that you can't shoot free throws the fact that you're on the free throw line for too long that all kind of falls by the wayside it's like but you know what the guy gets it done. The guy wins so if he wins we don't have to talk about those flaws but if he loses all those things are going to pop up and wow he's the most incomplete two time. Mvp this league is ever seen. Yeah i agree. But i also think brandon's point about he won't in the in the here and the now. There will be a lot of fake asterisks attached to a lot of potential this year but over the time line of history those fade away and the guy who is as one of the most underrated players of all time moses malone. He's a three time. Mvp who did also by the way did not have a complete game was just a physical monster. But he's a champion was a champion one of the greatest teams alongside dr j. andrew tony and others and it's like oh there's nothing missing from his resume and your essentially your three rolling the rest of your career after that. I also do think that a championship this year. Which obviously you have to win games seven and then when a couple more rounds might unlock a three or better yet. Honest moving forward. Because you don't have that added weight and pressure on you. But wilde's i want to go back to something because we all talk about bud. And how buds job is on the line. It's i don't think anyone in the front office is going to be fired in. Milwaukee wanna make that very clear but if they win then a lot of this. Offseason gets papered over lecturer member. They had dom bogdonovich who right now is playing great for a team that is still playing and they blew it. They just they. They got leaked too early. The league stepped in now. He plays for the hawks the other thing that i can't believe more people aren't talking about. Is this this offseason. They had to go get a point. Guard chris paul was there. He went for over a rubio and one. Now chris paul i think preferred phoenix and he was gonna do right by him but milwaukee preferred the younger jrue holiday. They traded four first round picks george hill and another player. Eric bledsoe to get through holiday. If they lose you look at it and say guys. You think you'll to loss. If you had chris paul or would you be the favorites when we're seeing what chris paul's doing because it's not like drew has been brilliant. This postseason so it is on honest to make everybody look better to make bud in this look better to make the front office in and no one up and down off season better like all of this is on because it has great middleton his this every time it's a what's happening i'll tell you what's happening license you just you've rusher on him you buy for for year. We're i mean kevin he. He's been on bud for year. Now since i've been on this show in probably longer than that to me. I put more blame on janas than bud your superstar in the nba. Warren guy could impact the entire outcome of of game in the nfl. You need auto let all eleven all twenty. Two you seen superstars do before have we just seen it. What game five k. D. katie and a half help from joe hairs now yet. Jeff green stepped up and a monster game. But you had katie. Go for forty nine points with that type of team. Banged up james harden out there on one leg and they win so when i look at the nba in situations like this. Yes you got. You got bud. That could've done some different. Things changed things up but man. I'll put more on honest than i do. Bug a. k. o. I put it all on us. And here's the thing. Nick and i know we're up against hip but i'll throw it to you real quick. This is your best chance. This is like he thought he could beat the big right now. You've got a big one and like one another the hamstring on one in order. Yes this is it. this isn't like all. Let's get them next year next year. The team's going to be twice as good. So this is your only opportunity. If you squander this it might not come around again. Eighty is going to be very hard for eighteen that loses to the nets in their current state to look themselves in the off season. And say oh. We'll get him next year. You'll won't like this will be your best chance and so wild. I agree with that. Thanks new saying that every time off medals thirty to eleven last night colonel. That's loss no metal durant nick who did a better last night. Well the bronze medals going to surprise some people because the bronze medalist in an unprecedented occurrence for metals. Didn't actually play last night. The bronze medalist is let me explain. So i got a tweet from someone's talking about trae saying i don't know why nick right has turned on my son trey and i'm like oh this guy does the bit that i do with luca where you claim. Someone's your son who isn't so i. Click on his palm like. Oh not a bit. This is trays actual father. So i responded. Like hey when i turn on your son. So he responded as well. He's like yeah. I don't know you were always making show the tweet. You're always as you said he should have been the number two pick out oklahoma. Not sure why. You're so hard on and listen to mr young in detroit. Two points one is when. I say he's infuriating to root against. That's a compliment. That's first of all second of all when i say. He hung spouse because he hunts spouse. It's a good strategy but it's maddening so trey you get a bronze medal. Because i don't want your dad me anymore. Silver medal to people that actually played last night. Janas you honest. The silver thirty and seventeen. We just been a long time talking around. And we don't need to spend much more dot amazing first-half good second half but eight of nine in the first half seventeen points and then the gold medalist best player last night. Chris middleton every time the made a push. Wild middleton answered with one of these jump shots he was fantastic. Play to stop iran. Yeah absolutely he also had a. He had vowed on a three pointer when the nets cut to five which was massive. Shaw james harden like drawn fouls three. Who does that huge. James how you take from just missing the garbage. You know what time it is. Donna says time with this great. I'm not this went in when when don't hits in the net looks good so that went cow so then are eight more garbage time. We'll get windmill and blame. All promise also didn't count follow that midcourt. So the nazis good try yet junks one. That didn't go in one that didn't count but still you got missed the cut woman on. Hey tom brady off. Turn this off here the new madden cover not bet. Sportsbook has over reading mahomes at ninety eight and a half radiant ninety seven nap. We'll talk the cover star quarterbacks next on first thing burke tomorrow on fox cardinals braves white sox astros or reds padres all starts at seven eastern on fox and fox sports at check your local listings with the game in your area We've got some super six. Don't miss your chance to win. One thousand big ones a big papi's money during the cardinals screamed braves game tomorrow on box. Download the free to play. Fox bet super six engines about maybe aren't as seventy nine for your shocking win under the tickets are still ten. Grand sorry brandon. We got breaking news grading kemba walker and a first round. Pick to oklahoma city for horford moses brown and a second sir. Nick what do you make it straight all right. So this is a financial move. Kimble's got two years seventy-three million left on his deal. Horford has two years left on his deal as well but the last year is only partially guaranteed workers. It's two years. Forty one million so the celtics save about thirty two million dollars of that against the cap. Obviously they sacrifice a first round pick to do it. Kimball won't be an oklahoma city for long. They will move on prestige. We'll figure something out in prestigious ongoing quest to one day have every first round pick of draft. He now has three in this draft. Thirty eight over the next five drafts. Don't move kimble for another pick or at least some or second round. Pick something what it means for the celtics wild your team is. This is the new. Gm brad stevens trying to undo some of the mess. The old gm. Danny aines left it. So i i think that this is. It's unfortunate for kimba and brains. You talk about this. His body's not right is kim was not a bad player yes but he's laid so much with a bad knee that they gotta move on. While i've i feel like i'm being town. This is this bitter sweet because this was supposed to work out kimbe is charlotte was phenomenal. They make this move. And now you're talking about. You could potentially have a big three brown tatum and kimbe in that needs as derailed. The whole operation that they tried to create what those three guys but i actually liked it when they made this move two years ago. So i feel like it's a bittersweet moment and being town while it's because this was supposed to workout. Yeah i like campbell is yukon guy. I'm from connecticut. So i have like fond memories account and i hope he continues to heal up and had a great career. I want to kind of connect this to the patriots. Nick because we saw the patriots. Come out of disappointing season and once free agency opened up. They started making moves aggressively in the last week. We've seen a lot of coaches being moved. We've seen a lot of executive transactions but this is the first player movement. We've seen it makes me think. And i want your take on this. Do you think there's other big moves coming from brad stevens. The fact that he was quickly able to move kemba. Do we think. And you know what i'm talking about. Do you think either. Tatum or jalen brown is going to be on the move. Or is someone a new big free agent or trade coming into boston yet. So here's the thing. Boston has never been a free agent. Destination al horford is actually one of the only free agents to opt to go there and then he left to philly and now he's back i don't so i think this is what brad stevens trying to do. I don't think. Tatum and brown leaving. Ever or i shouldn't say ever but no time soon. I think they are going to be there. Brad stevens understand that with both of their mega extensions kicking in that cap space is dwindling. And so your flexibility is dwindling. So going from kimbe salary to a lower horford salary next year and then a far lower partial guarantee the following year gives you some flexibility wild. The guy who could be moved as marcus smart. He's on a good contract he's valuable. That's the move that i would think boston might make but tatum and brown or not going anywhere. I know you love marcus. Smart but tatum and brown or around. What are you going to do. You need the just you need that guard. The locker room that dame dame lillard can take care of the toughness of the team so dame can really be the the fire up your game. Lillard south marcus smart. Just put a call. Hey all right. we're gonna talk a game seven more. go they'll to serve. Jaanus milwaukee discussed confident now is confidence has grown throughout the show. I know wireless then game six. They had win for some seventy and they did for brooklyn. They got thirty two from k. D. but arden still not honor percent. Still no kyrie. Obviously sir nick. What will be the biggest key to tomorrow's game seven. Oh listen i think which teams complementary players are freaking out less. listen game seven is unlike anything else. In sports there have been a lot of parallels in this series so the twenty eighteen conference finals in the east cavs celtics. We talked lebron played. Forty eight is the second best player was jeff green. Katie played forty eight in game. Five second best players. Jeff green the final game dusty can fact check me on that. I think the final score that game. Seven was eighty seven seventy-nine because nobody could hit shots because they were also tight so the question here is brandon in to me. Twofold one is how many points. What's the minimum katie has to have for their team for the nets to win. You said you think he can score thirty five. I think if he doesn't get to forty they got no shot. The other question is will drew holiday. Finally make shots will pack. Didn't make some shots. John is the same approach. I think the nets are outta gas brandon. I think the game looks a lot like last night. I the bucks lead at wire-to-wire and i think it's ugly with a lot of shots. That's what i think's gonna happen. What what what. Boys can't hit shots because the nez defense is so good. It's been so amazing know. Here's the deal so look let's the ran on the side. Durant going to do what he needs to do. would you. From james harden his him to shoot early issue often and get hot. We know his quickness isn't mayor because of a hamstring. We need to see james hard and contribute out there from the perimeter. We need those shots. Go down and then you have a joe harris joe harris. I thought i was playing around when i said that. He literally turned himself into ben. Simmons here's a here's a here's a graphic for you guys look at. I'm being honest. Look at this. Med of the last twenty seven shots jaising. We're talking about twenty to miss. This is a problem joe harris. It's the thing i like about. Joe is that he's still aggressive. He's still shooting and that's good. He can continue to tap into that. It has the fall you. This is the dude that led the nba from this year forty seven. Let's go joe. Can i tell you how unfair sports are all year long. I am banged on brandon about the nets. Being terrible how. It's going to be leaving the nets defense. Might hold milwaukee send ninety points because they can't score is the death of energy away from the.

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Lakers/Suns Game 5, Bucks/Nets preview, Damian Lillard's performance, Stephen Jackson joins

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Lakers/Suns Game 5, Bucks/Nets preview, Damian Lillard's performance, Stephen Jackson joins

"This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when your printer is running low and sends new cartridges before you run out so you never have to think about inc for details visit hp dot com slash instant inc spotify conditions apply. The crops were set to dame time last night where does dame's historic performance rank all time. Hey we got a quarterback battle. Bruin in new orleans can taste them beat out janus for the starting job also wiry asking and the brooklyn nets are moving on to round two with that. We say good wednesday morning. Everyone and welcome to another edition of general. Nick is obviously in warning over the lakers. Last night which we will get to fill even be here. I don't know fred is here. What is here brandon. The lakers in the second. Your nets be celtics. I still love you though. And i will always love. You can do the same thing to the bar appreciate that. Come on swan wearing a black and white black and white black and white. it's no that's her back showed this but we gotta start with some laker sunday. You wanted to do this year. We four years old badly nick. Resorting hirose No no anthony davis last night. He's out with a groin. Strain in the sun came out swinging to the tune of a thirty point half dialing lead to a tune about thirty point win win for the sons. The only dark spot for them though chris ball did re-injure that shoulder. He had to leave the game but his team. More than carried the load. They won and the lakers. Now sit on the brink of a first round exit years lebron after the game. I'll ask you us that simple. A got whatever they wanted to get his game and We got to be better off. Save one force a game. Seven so i would say a lot to learn from his game. A lot to cover see You know what we gotta do. Better guana game six but It pretty much kicked. Him is not what i'm not going to do. Nick is ask. If you're worried me for juicy question for later what i will ask you this guy. This game was it more about what the son's dead or what the lakers didn't do last night. Oh all of the above jenna wolfe kevin wilds and brandon marshall. Oh god i do not look forward to. Seeing brandon marshall's smiling pearly whites this morning. I i've got to take this one on the chin. Because i think i was more wrong about an individual's sporting event last night then i've ever been about individuals. Sporting in my life on the lakers performances. Pathetic every single thing from the fact that you know when it's win the pathetic performance started before the game even started when they announced the starting lineups and frank vogel said you know what we're going to start a five man unit that has never started together of five leeann unit that is played zero minutes together ever never laid on the court together. Let's start in game five of the playoffs. All the brian. Whatever since urgency didn't really see it. I thought schreuder would bounce back from awful game four instead. He had quite literally the worst game of his life. I thought the lakers would understand that. Devon booker at home in this series has been excellent has been bubbling waiting for an explosion. No they decided. Let him get whatever he wants. He had eighteen points in the first quarter which was of one hundred and fifty percent of the points. The lakers scored a team. In the second quarter. It was a disaster. Everything about it was terrible however marshall great on this one said it is always darkest before dawn and it is not nineteen ninety five and it is not a best of five. It is the best of seven and you still must team for doing this right. Yesterday was do this right. Yesterday was as bad as it gets. There is no excuse for my miss analysis for the lakers. Terrible play however. This series brandon is not over. He's doing this this morning. Digital watch this game. We were tweeting each other. No that wasn't a robot. Tweet me back up. Watching the game was over with sent to mind while you're block so i didn't see a nurse. Can we send somebody to his apartment. I know you're there. You've probably gonna outskirts of new york but send somebody to this man's house. This man is losing it. I was going to take it easy on you buddy but you come back in you tripled down. That's what you just did y- head to aces and you told them split it. That's what you did know you had twenty. Take take the win. You had the opportunity to get out of it. When ad went down mic. Please brother you understand that. This series is over but you're just to pot committed. Look here's the deal. It was a little bit of both jinnah when you watch that game. I did see a sense of urgency and lebron coming out. That's why tweeted early in a game. That man it looks like he's going for fifty you know he was pulling up. He was aggressive. You know not only on the perimeter but also in the paint and then he just went cold and then everybody else never even got form on the other side. You had a whole team a complete team. You had a book that went for thirty. Paul only had nine eight and only eight. But then you had others that truly stepped up and they've been stepping up all series and bridges painted. Johnson hey they played phenomenal. They were sensational. So for that reason. That's why i chose this team because you didn't know what you're going to get out of. Ad ad about this coming in. Nick we said that could potentially make the playoffs but he may not be able to stay so. I'm disappointed that. Nick is tripling down on this lakers bit. Well don't be disappointed. let's just let's see how game six goes and kevin wild. You know people laugh but wild you know a staple of my sports commentary sometimes. Is you know what happened. Someone played too good and the sons. When i see campaign looking like he. He's in open gym. When i see the phoenix son committed four turnovers the entire game. When i when i see eighty who didn't play obviously schreuder and casey p combine for as many points as the phoenix guerrilla the mascot the famous mascot they had zero. I say you know what game six is going to be better game. Six is going to be in. Los angeles lakers will be the favorites so yesterday i was wrong i had to. I had to take it and we will see what the spend hours looks like. But yeah what's up. Stop beating yourself up. You're old buddy. Kevin wild going to help you out because although brandon wants to pile on you and wants to take a shot at me. Because i think you've got something shot one hundred percent right yesterday and i'm not joking. One hundred percent right yesterday. We said the last segment show said. This is the most important game of the andrea ins life. Most important game of devon booker is life one of the most important for. And you're like that's right. He's like here's the thing. Though wilde's they're all just kind of new to the game minus. Chris ball it is about the hundred and seventy third most important game of lebron james life i was like. Oh that's interesting. That's a good point by nick. But here's the problem. You were to write for your own good because they all treated it like just a normal game where there is such a sense of urgency from the suns players and the sun's crowd. The lakers got rolled. And i just wanna kill one narrative because like dream on was on at halftime take. Lebron did his job. You know what they they gotta hit their shots. They miss those shots because phoenix did a great job. Playing defense. they're were. You can be a step slow and those guys can hit those shots from just one random play. This is not play. You'll see on any highlights. Lebron got it. Hey kick into the corner per kuzma campaign comes from the devon booker basically comes from the baseline casey peas got some awkward looking one legged floater. That's not really a floater. This happened all game or at least all first half and when they talk about being aggressive on the defense for the sons. I want to show you one. Other graphic thought was super interesting. Lebron didn't get one free throw didn't get it. There was a handful of calls where he put his hands up that he thought he deserves something. But it feels like this is indicative of either him not being aggressive enough him kind of carrying out his like. I need to get guys in ball too much or him. Not being one hundred percent and probably a combination of everything. What did you take them out of. What did you take from him. Not going to the free throw line at all. Last night won't listen. I think it's a little misleading. Because you mentioned. I thought he was relatively aggressive. I thought there was a bunch of at least three separate drives to the basket where he was trying to get to the free throw line and didn't get the call but i do think that he didn't the sense of urgency slave. Ok lebron that was minus game. Everyone else it was an f. Game and the suns played out of their minds but the reason that the sons had the sense of urgency. Is the sons understand. Something that and we'll see if they can it that i had said a longtime going. You laughed at me. Kevin wilds but it's accurate the sons or any team playing lebron. They have to win. They don't have to win four out of seven. You have to win four out of six because if it gets to a game seven year cooked so the suns new in order to win this series. They had to win yesterday and they did well. And they annihilated the lakers. at what. What brandon brandon the all. this historical. No you just. You also owns the king. He's never lost in the first round like enough of all those references from the past man. It's over they're done they're done. They're done. I just wanna ask. Can isis ask this real quick. We're just quick leap out all over. Here's darting vacuuming is done. We got we all morning that up. What's going on with ad whether he'll be available for game six. We got head to new orleans jason hill. Battling it out for the starting quarterback john fox sports look. Jane is though as the betting favorite to be the started. Come week wants to. Why are we talking about this nets. First things first worse laker game of the year now atlanta with a chance to close it out tonight and gang five. Take a listen to hawkesbury clink. Capellas trash off ahead of tonight's game gardner physical became win games as well. And now we coming to your own to win this game again. Send on vacation here. Heard about Clinton capellas comments. He says they're coming to put you on vacation and don't care don't care. I assume did hear about them. You just do not care. We not only got so. We gotta do great. But why would i give clinton really feel about it. I don't know brennan. How do you feel about a clean. Cappella comments are blank. Oh this is don king s like look this guy don king can make any fight. Any doll fight. He made us believe that it was going to be the biggest fight and it was gonna be amazing. Was going to be a spectacle but look this. This series lackluster. The first the first game where you had trae young into drama between him and the fans. That was cool Then the second game. Msg was rocking lacking star power is lacking the storyline so for cappella to keep it going. It's actually great. Promotion is great for the game actually like it. argh so. I think it's warranted brandon because the the knicks approach has given the hawks undue confidence eighties beyond stupefying to me. That two things have not happened to trae young in this series one that there is not any foul committed on trae young. We're the commentators are debating whether it's flagrant one or a flagrant to the fact that hasn't happened yet is unbelievable on nick. That's on basketball. Okay well then. The other thing is basketball. Make trae young defend. Put him in a pick and roll. He just standing in the corner. On reggie bullock every defendant possession not expending any energy not getting any foul trouble. Not having to guard anybody. So i understand. The hawks would feel confident. While i'm going to today's gay not on some media. Comp tickets press box down with the people with knicks. Fan sam pepper. The knicks going to win tonight and they are going to finally not trae young down and put a little scare in the hawks. And that's what's gonna happen tonight but until that happens. These are warranted comments. Wilde's okay good. So i think you're one hundred percent about trae young to the point. Where on twitter. Add to mute you and trey young pick and roll like we get it when you're on national tv you don't. I've got it. You gotta put it mining minute okay. Here's the thing about trash talk. Everyone who's played an organized. Sport has had some trash talk to them before the ones that are really effective. Kind of hurt your feelings so that one got me that one. Really throw me off the game. This might be from clint cappella. The worst trash talk in the history of trash talking. Could you imagine you're playing a game and someone's like. Hey i'm gonna send you occasion. Mike awesome dude. Where i'm going. Sounds great and that's both teams win. If the knicks get knocked out like you know what we ever achieve is going to come in second place go but yeah going occasion. The knicks are okay with house money. Great trash where. we sure. that was good. Taste some hill now because you talked about planes quarterback fulltime yesterday be a fly on nick rice wall when he this from tastes him hill. They said look at the end of the day. When i first got here and i started doing all this stuff the answer when i was asked. Hey what's the end goal for. You has always been to play quarterback on a quarterback at heart. That's my mindset. That is really nice. When i can tailor all of my off season program to be as good a quarterback as they possibly can open with the packers home then go on the road to carolina in new england just to give you guys a little context so brandon start with you. There's that schedule mason's comments on his off season are blank. This is a pretty schedule And i'm sure he's going to be out there on the field but not at quarterback. This is what he's supposed to save. This is what he's supposed to do this offseason his work at it because he is On that on that on that roster as a quarterback slash tight ends last special teams guy. But it's a waste of time. Why is it a waste of time because when drew brees retired with an. I say i'm all in on james winston all in go back to two thousand in nineteen. This is the same months ago. Two thousand and nineteen thirty touchdowns fifty one hundred yards. Are you kidding me. What the little dash of les six nick. I'm all in on jamie's so don't do anything he wants. You know he can come in and still do what he did with drew brees for. Who's gonna be leading team. Is james fifty one hundred yards and thirty times. Are you kidding me. This kid can play. Okay i'm gonna leave the james optimism to brain and i am also rooting for jamie's but he does he win. When brandon lists the jameis winston stats twenty nine nineteen. I can't quite put my finger on it. But i feel like there's one important one that he consistently omits yards per attempt knows it completion percentage. Now i'll figure it out later but on tastes hill. These comments much like tastes him. Hill are adorable. I'm happy for him and tastes. Them hill has good reason to believe that you can be in the nfl. Well into your thirties. Having never played the position at a high level and still to at the opportunities to do it. Because he's watching. we're watching. What's happening with tim. Tebow in jacksonville. The nfl being like nine nine ninety percent. Sixteen billion dollar. Business as brandon always says multimillion dollar athletes billion dollar corporations ninety percent that and ten percent adult. Fantasy camp is a fun. New wrinkle of the twenty twenty. I think that's a great all right. Here's the thing takes a mill. Print is dead buddy i. I don't want to read about it. I want to be about it. Meanwhile james winston out here putting together a creativity contests on his workout drills. So you have to step up. I don't know what you wanna do. Do you want to bring a tiny little baseball bat and try that. Perhaps that will help your word of james's greatest workout hits do we have. I like the woman. The pats up. Yeah this combo. This is like sort of like the peck deck at the gym. Except you're in the water. Also boxing i get up there to do that peck deck. I like that. you can immersion soupy. That might we got another way. We can show james. We're back to the baseball. I'm all in. He's wild scan. The internet for a little weird and wonderful for national pastime. Clint frazier jumps out at us. How about a walk off home. Run in the eleventh inning. Last night h needed a win. Yes got the win the big one for them but wild. What else you got for us. We'll just one jeddah. 'cause it's extra weird mets diamondbacks bench clearing basically nothing because stroman role hostels yelling at stroman kind of just an odd events so anyways after the gain. Here's here's why it started actually made sense more. Because i was upset at myself for having three bad at bats against them and i felt he was pointing that out to me so i wanted to say some okay. That's what that's exactly. 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Sleep and save a thousand dollars on the new sleep number three sixty special edition smart bed. During the memorial day sale only at sleepnumber stores or sleepnumber dot com slash cadence is onto round two for the brooklyn nets. That's the easing their way past the celtics in game five james harden is good basketball player hosting his first playoff triple-double as in nets. Good for the win. And that win sets up a star studded matchup with jaanus and the bucks and that series starts saturday barclays center. Erase the beard. After last night's win. How quickly as it tonight is it. Tomorrow how quickly put this behind you. And you're like all right. I'm going to focus on milwaukee. Now i mean personally myself you know. I'm thinking about him right now and just the match ups in you know things that they do on both ends of the ball. Obviously we know how good they are. Both sides and their individual talents Tomorrow off day in Thursday i think we we go watch film and and prepare for them question. How do these teams matchup answer. Well bucks took the season series. Two one jaanus and durant both getting it done on offense averaging thirty nine and thirty four respectively. That's so many points. Hey brandon here bucks or nets. Are you asking me that question. Come on please allah. Let's skiing you with your head. Not your you do it. Heart try. Listen i mean look. Look look what i'm wearing what i'm wearing. We win series. We beat those boys on wearing my black and white celebrating. It was amazing. It played out. Exactly how i said it would all year. I say they have too much firepower on offense. You have three guys can average twenty five points with. Did you see you saw them every. Eighty four points throughout the series eighty-five points throughout the. That's that's the record you can't you can't find in the history of the nba. You gotta go back to nineteen sixty to see somebody close and that was elgin. Baylor that was jerry west and some guy named excuse me being disrespectful but rudy larusso they average eighty four points in the series so they did exactly what i said would do. And that's what a bucks don't have a chance to win this series now. It will be interesting series. Nick it will be to me in my my mind. This is this. This is the finals. You got a team. That can really get it done. But they don't have enough to go the distance you got obviously the rain into time in. Mvp of the league. And that's on this. you have. Pj tucker who's mister big shot. He reminds me of you. Know tanti billups at times when the games on the line his little corner. Threes chris middleton. He's underrated probably the most underrated player in the nba. And then you have a drew. Holiday drew holiday dynamic on the defensive side and he's scary scores so it's going to be a series and they're going to have to earn it but there's too much offense at the end of the day. You can lockdown k. D. and then carry you can lockdown car reading james heart and kill you with james harden has done this year. This series is just needs to be celebrated the first couple the first couple of games in first series. What did he do. He got his guys involved. He's made the ultimate sacrifice. This a score guy who's ball dominant and he let katie and sherry lee and then all of a sudden. He turned it on the last two games on a scoring side. So absolutely love this for the nets. It won't be easy. Nick but this is something to watch because this is the finals so i i agree that this is the finals but i do think this could end up. Being the best series of the postseason and the point brandon made should not be glossed over brain and said all year the nets have three guys can average twenty five. Well three times twenty five. That'd be seventy five points per game between the three of them in this series. Those three guys averaged eighty five. Which is the most of any trio in any playoff series of any round in nba playoff history. So in that regard brandon has been one hundred percent correct. So why haven't i bought in on the nets all year long. I've been sounding the alarm about their defense and brandon came around a bit when the nets had one good defensive game. I think there was drawing a blank. Answer that said defense wins championships. And it wasn't from your old buddy. Nick riders from your old buddy brandon marshall. And now that we're through the first round against a team that had one healthy legitimately good offensive player and jason. Tatum like you say. Okay ned steep interbreeding and during the regular season we also wasn't going to be good enough. They would have to get a little bit better one fourteen. What is it in the playoffs. Odes one sixteen. They're even gotten worse in the postseason. Now it hasn't mattered. Because they were playing a legitimately with no jaylen brown with a hobbled and kimball walker a bad celtics team. But it will matter against milwaukee. So i believe the bucks have the edge. Braden gave me great information that i agree with about what a good roster the bucks have. But wilde's i want to focus on yannis because the last time we saw in a playoff series where he wasn't dealing with either bam at a bio or qui- leonard. He averaged thirty one. Sixteen in six on nearly sixty percent shooting. I think john is is going to work the best. He has looked in the playoffs since then because a. You're going to have to go up and down score a bunch against brooklyn and be. There is nobody on brooklyn's roster not forget garden that can even form the wall. Like i guess you could try deondraye jordan like you did in the regular season and janas responded to that in the regular season by averaging forty points per game against this team so the one part wilde's that i will say brooklyn has a sizable edge. In is a brooklyn has a three point. Lead with forty five seconds left in any of these call. Four point lead with forty five seconds left they are. They are the best clothes out team in the league because all three of their guys are spectacular. Free throw shooters. You can't get in foul competition with them at the end of games as you see teams tried to do so. That works to brooklyn's favor but the defense the well roundedness and the back diving milwaukee's been tested. I think all works in the bucks paper. So here's the thing that. I'm worried about and i'm rooting for the bucks. But this is what i'm worried about. What is steve. Nash win into the nets locker room today. Whether watching film and said this not only can we not contain him. We're just going to let honest do is thing. If you honest has been playing like wilt chamberlain literally we put up wilt chamberlain numbers against the honest and they look exactly the same if he gets forty so be it if it gets forty five so be it. If he gets fifty you know what will make a great highlight but we need to stop. Pj tucker can't get loose and start hitting threes. Like marcus smart. Did we can take in. Chris middleton try to keep him in the teens and try to keep drew holiday in the teens. If that happens. Nick if steve. Nash says you know what we can't stop on us and we're not going to try. We're almost let them punch himself out. We have to stop those other guys. I think that would be a blueprint to beating the bucks. You agree. well the thing is this. I don't know that they can stop the other guys. I just don't next when they their best five-man line-up the one where katie's the only big on the court hardened kyri joe harris and blake katie and in the underrated story of this postseason by the way has been kevin durant is playing essentially perfect basketball. Katie is as somehow showing no signs of any injuries and is doing it on both it. Katie is an excellent defender. No one else in that. Five man. Unit is a plus defender harden. If you post them up is but that's it and so even if you like no we're just going to let you on as his but we're not going to let who is stopping drew holiday. Who is stopping. Chris middleton if you've katie on. Chris middleton that can work but that so i just think that the the nets have not shown me the ability to get stops. They haven't needed to because his brandon's point is a big three of just been incandescent. But i think the bucks too much is simple as simple too much offense of firepower and you guys are missing it. There's an. I've never seen a great team or great player. Go into a game saying oh. We need to do this. No what they do is they. Doubled down on what they do. Best and they impose their will. They say we're going to force this team to stop us. So who's losing sleep right. Now is the bucks loses sleep right now saying we need to stop the big three over there. Two guys that just average eighty four eighty five points in the series. That's a record. You gotta go back to the sixty to see somebody come close or or or is it the nets a lose asleep at night saying we gotta stop. Yarn is we gotta stop. Middleton we gotta stunt drew holiday. We gotta stop. Pj tucker think about that. No the nets are not losing sleep. You got k. d. kyri and james harden in. We're talking about some of the most prolific scores. This league has ever seen. Forget the league. We got freaking scores. Walking earth never seen the nba. You throw these guys out the rooker. You told these guys on any frigging blacktop. And they're going to give buckets and that's exactly what his team is going to beat them and six point blank. Nick would say time for nick to hand out. Nba playoff metals devon booker. He went for thirty in the sons blowout win but phoenix just the phoenix star. Just missing out on a medal. Nick who did make your play podium. Today yeah booker. Actually kinda got screwed by. How terrible the lakers were. He didn't have to play much. Or you know. Try much late in the game or else we could add a forty five point game and got on the podium but he just misses out he doesn't miss out is nikolay yokich averaging close to thirty five points per game in this series game of the playoffs. I know we'll discuss it here in a minute last night. Nagoya in double overtime thirty eight. Eleven and nine in a critical series shifting win in denver silver silver-metal james harden thirty four ten and ten last night whenever it seemed like the celtics lego somehow down seven. Somehow they're only down eight harden would either score or assist to give the nets more breathing room. He was excellent last night and help the nets. Cover that twelve and a half by the skinner t but the gold medal of these single greatest performances in playoff history. As i said we will get into it in depth thirty five six and ten with a degree of difficulty on these shots and a critical clutch nature of the shots. The likes of which i. I don't know that. I've ever seen rollerblade thompson's record for most three pointers playoff game. And every single one of them matter massively. That was the only lucky one. All night damian lillard jetta runs away with the gold medal. Despite the blazers losing and dial two i know i was just gonna say. How do you have a performance like that. You can't win the game. I while who just missed the cut down to don't call timeout. Kiet nurse from the logo mugging phoenix mercury. Win the game. If you're keeping track this makes to phoenix wins. That lebron had to watch on tv. So that's just a good tidbit for you. In all i won't. We just talked about it. Knicks gold medalists dame lillard historic performance last night. But will the blazers lost. Be the reason. Dave leaves portland one day. We discussed next first things first back here. First things first with the great. Stephen jackson good morning stephen. Can we please please discuss last night's game. Five blazers nuggets. It was dame time on caffeine. The performance of the post season by far fifty. Five points a playoff record twelve three pointers from the rest of his team as the nuggets win in double overtime to spoil danes night and take a three two series lead ariza lillard after his record breaking game matter. We lost a game. Show me at this point. We can't lose another game series so we go out there and we play to win the game and became short so going back home is a must win. Auriol's source season is over and then we got to come back here and win on a floor again. So i mean that's what it is is big unhappy. We got nba chance steven jackson joining us now. Which makes me big happy. Stephen what you make of lillard dejection after his record breaking night. Last night was Generally you know. I love you. Glad cu again. You really make me have to be on the show. You all my favorite. I love you guys. You seen a press conference dame basically said. How do i get bitten by the lose on the road. That's basically what he said right. You can't you can't have fifty five points in the playoffs on the road and lose the game the way balls down to nurkic ibaz out to cancer. Y'all have to play some defense. He's averaging thirty five in the playoffs if bianca pass away to stop them have a better chance to win the game for denver. Austin rivers has been great. Mike report finally had a big game. But you gotta give austin rivers discredit but that have emerged in the lineup. They needed another guy. Gordon hasn't been to play that we expected him to be once. It got the denver but also stepped up but they cannot average fifty fifty five points on the road and lose that game started frustration island islanders space so yeah and i don't blame him for the frustration and luckily the lakers game was so awful. I think a lot of america did what i did and said okay. I'm going to turn. This offer changed screens and focus on this. And what you saw from damian lillard was totally unprecedented damian. Lillard now has as far as most threes in a playoff game the fourth most ever the third most ever second most ever is klay thompson epic game six against oklahoma city in twenty sixteen and then last night the most ever. This was the seventh most points ever scored in any playoff game of all time. And what you saw in overtimes wilds is what a number and there's an image. The number is this six of eight. I seventeen points that would dame was in open overtimes one of fourteen for two points. That's what all of his teammates were in the two overtimes and in the in the end of the second overtime robert covington dane. Good tim a dunk. He literally misses the dunk. And the next time down dame's partner. Cj dame kicks it to cj and cj steps out of bounds. and i watched it wilds. And i said dame for alternate loyal guy for the ultimate. I'm not going to team up. I want to do it here. Guy a game like this can stick with you and make you reconsider because when you score when you literally are setting records when you are making shots to wear when you miss austin rivers actually thanked god put his hands like this and thank god that you missed and your teammates are missing dunks and stepping out of bounds scoring two total points on fourteen shots in ten overtime minutes of your dame you have to say to yourself what what can i do. What more can i do and might do. I want to keep running into this wall because he was perfect last night and it wasn't enough and they weren't playing an all time. Great team like the nuggets are some unbeatable super team. It's like they're just playing a good team and it wasn't enough so so stack. I wanted to ask you this. Because i also like nick have sort of a. I don't know i. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth to watch a great performance in kind its spin it forward and be a little bit negative but i also have to be honest because we've worked together for a while and i felt like your legacy has a lot of different chapters to it. You have we you were known to it like the we believe warriors we know like pacers kind of ultimate loyal guy but when we first started working like an nba champion. Stephen jackson is here. And talk about the spurs and you'd have the rain. We're talking about all the time. And you would you would is that is part of a of a nuanced and a sort of a wide legacy for you. I feel the same way about dane that we know that dame is like the ultimate loyalty guy and now he's known as an all time great clutch guy. But i don't think we're ever going to be able to say an nba champion dame lillard. And i want that for him. I don't want to tell the guy what to do. I don't wanna wish him out of portland. I don't want to blow up the teen. But is it wrong for me to say like hey dame you probably have to make a movie. Their pressure the blazers to make up another move or leave. What is your take on him trying to like for lack of a better term chase a championship. Some some guys are big on laws Me personally. I would love to see them win a championship. I would love to see him. Go somewhere else and play here But you know at the end of the day. We only worry about what we control and he had easing told her that decision. You know law to means a lot a lot of people and it means a lot to me too but it's turned time you can't be loyal to people now lawyer to you. You know what i mean. And then that's what it is. Dan can can can save his lawyer to this team. But i guarantee you know ten years from now enjoys might be retired there. But the lord's he won't be there with their team they move on and try to buy another day and that's just that's just a true. I would love to see him a champion. But what a lotta people ain't talking about about this game. Whilst is their second three. That sent the game into overtime. Should have been an one key. Got win yeah. Good call stack. Let's let's stay on this conversation. Because i'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of the show. Love all the smoke and when you wash the show every time you guys have kobe a i d way you always say you know man. This is a real one real one real one and so dame i think he's considered a real one in your book right and so is this real going wrong where this do dropped fifty five points. He's he's been doing it for years. He's been having these these monster games in these monster performances but they just can't get over the hump so to wild point. I don't want him to go somewhere else and chase championships. But when is enough enough. Is this real going wrong. Yes out the brookville brookville in the bay from Dame is definitely a real no question about it. he's a real I think it's it's guys like me. You be that. Want to see him win. He's such a great player. You know he is exciting to watch. He dedicated so much of so much of his life to the game and the way he plays he's brought. Paul is definitely the most plus player in the game right now. You know him mckay dee but what he's doing right now it's unbelievable man and we just wanna see him win. I know what it feels like the whole etro. Pr and there's no better feeling in the world after you've given your whole life to something to say that she was a champion the best at it but at least one year and i know in the back of his mind. He's thinking that but at the end of the day when you taking care of when you when you play basketball for a job for your whole life a lot of things like that don't matter long as family straight. A lot of people take that into consideration championship. And obviously he's going to make five hundred million lifetime career and be a earnings or close to it like he's the money's locked in and he's earned it also do think it's noteworthy win. He because the extension that he has not even been yet. He has a four year extension. That starts next year but when did he signed it. He signed it two years early. Why well there's a lot of money but also what had just happened. The blazers had just made the conference finals. It was the only truly deep playoff run. They've gone on since he's been there. And i think in the glow of that moment he was like i can stay here and we can win and they couldn't like it's an. It's not his fault the to me. Everyone when people think of lebron's first part of his career in cleveland they think of that final series against boston. I believe i don't know this. I believe lebron realized. I have to leave the year before the year before in a series against orlando in thousand nine lebron average thirty nine eight and eight and they lost in six and i think he said okay like all right. I'll play out the last year my deal but it doesn't matter what i do. There is a ceiling and for dame he obviously can't play out the remainder of the contract. It'd be four years from now. But i do wonder unfortunately when he just came off the greatest game he's ever played and one of the greatest playoff games. Anyone has ever played if he doesn't look around and say i wasn't enough. Then what will be and been. He has some tough decisions to make love to keep watching dame safe. The blazers can avoid elimination tomorrow night. Game six that went back in portland. We're back talking your guy. Nick lebron's award and elimination everybody. Chances is happening overkill blown out last night in game five. That's next first. Things first clinton. Except back here. Stephen jackson and we finally got to it stack. We're talking lakers suns game five and necas going to stick around this time. We talk about lakers without anthony davis subsequently without any offense shot. Lebron would say after the game son's seizing the opportunity. Thirty point halftime lead. Thirty point win about that. The only dark spot for phoenix chris. Paul reinjured that shoulder and he had to leave the game but the lakers lost and they now sit on the brink of a first round. Exit years lebron. After the game. I are asking us a simple. They did whatever they wanted to get his game. One fourth game seven. So i would say a lot to learn from his game with lots of cover see You know what we gotta do better on a game six but it pretty much kick ass nothing else. I stephen i wait to get your take on it and you think last night's game was more about what the sun's data with the lakers didn't do everything is not rocket science it had and that's all down to their totally. Detained without anthony davis. We all knew basis. Come out feeling. Good they're at home. They're gonna not downsizing they're gonna make shots at home but not having apnea davis Is is a big missing piece of them. But this is the biggest thing and i knew they regret now. You should have appreciated much raised from beginning this season. You should have been playing them. So when anthony davis does go down because he know he's angela that interesting. His compass is still be high but now but now they're suffering from treating from treating them like my crap and not playing and not giving them the ministry desires. He was a six million a year last year. He didn't come to the lakers. Not play so now. You need him now. Mental is not right so and that's playing. I did a bad job of handling him coming back behind him. Now because we all know eighty is injury prone while they wanted andre drummond and they wanted they wanted to rome on drink drumming and side by side. That's the problem nick. You've been talking about that. You gotta get andre drummond off the court and move to the five. But here's the i'm not gonna i'm not gonna crush need nick's been doubling down on his lakers thing and he had an easy out when a de- went down here. Here's what i wanna to talk about. What you stag. While we have you here you got. Ad he's been inconsistent all year when he's been healthy he's been. He's been dealing with health issues all year. This is a guy that can go down just like that. You just don't know. He's a tender guys world sensitive what happens in the locker room and nba locker room. When you're dealing with a guy like this what so much on a locker. Are you guys looking at them or you're trying to cheer him. More you like is the approach to a guy like this. What's going through. Lebron's hit we as basketball players to answer different between not karen and injury. eighty cares. Eighty wants to help his team. That's that's not in question but you can't really you can't really blame him from injury. Isra happens some some of those guys. That i love to watch play that i love to compete against career into short and and and some guy that lived up to johnston buildup of random award and and they have no control over that. So you gotta be careful with that man. Because he's one of the best players just came up with championship. You know what he means the team. You know what he can do but injuries are sometimes audi hands. Well i think stack brings up a bunch of really interesting points. And they all kind of tied to big picture wise. This lakers team doesn't know who it's best eight are and last night. I thought they were just going to say okay. The old model put lebron on the court with guys. That'll space the court. Let him try to driving kick and when they even tried. That lebron lakers were six twenty five from three. They still can't hit a damn shot. But you knew they weren't going to try that when the starting lineup was announced and it was five guys who not only have never started together. Those five human beings have never played one minute of nba basketball on the court together. It was baffling that. That's what you're gonna start a game five with now. They wouldn't have mattered. What the starting lineup was. Once you saw after the opening two minutes that the sons were the more intense team. The more focused team the sharper team. All of the above. Listen lebron was not very good. Everyone else will lakers was truly awful. Schreuder scored zero. Kcpt scored zero. Obviously eighty wasn't even there. The whole thing was a total abject disaster the silver lining the lakers is this. It was their third loss and the next game is in los angeles and we will see if anthony davis plays if he doesn't and we will see if anthony davis doesn't if lebron still has or the injury depr- is going to deprive them of it that extra geared to get to because while lebron was okay too bad last night it also was not a season on the line intensity level. You would have expected. And i think that's in part because this season wasn't on the line and so all of the above combined to create just a horrendous performance by everyone involved coaches players. Everybody and it's why the sons were up thirty at halftime and generating a lot of america. Tuned blazers nuggets. Watts actually a super compelling game late into the evening last night. I wanna bring up one thing. We saw last night about five minutes left to play. You saw lebron exit starting to head for the locker. I mean the game was long over at this point but still he. Wasn't there when the game ended. Stephen alaska would you make of that meet me. I wouldn't ask that. He went to the lockerbie. Saw lose them. We know the bruins beat up Me and me not being there. I'm gonna say he went there to get star treatment But to me that team. They're confident before the game but He think he walked out to get treatment. I don't think you walk up to be a cast. I don't think he walked up to put the attention on him. Ought to be his teammates. i think he went into start his treatment and to get gang. Jack stack i. I love you are one. I love the show. No he wasn't supposed to do this. We killed tom brady when he didn't shake. Nick foles hand on thursday after thursday night. Football game after thirty nine gene. Do we kill cam. Newton and so we gotta do it to lebron all right lebron james. He did it in two thousand and nine eastern conference finals. Dwight howard dropped forty two points. He walks off two thousand eighteen against the wars. So nick you talked about tom. Brady being a baby. Maybe lebron james has shown us that he's a because he's not used to losing. You talked about it yesterday. All lebron james is at the end of first round. It's never understand. I don't think he left. I understand that nick but he walked into the locker room before the game was over. That's what i'm talking about. Yeah we don't do that with bet. did they. Both went there and they don there to go get treatment. He lasted by the eight lasted. He left with five with. No we are because they. It is noteworthy that they both left. We of course only talk about lebron part of it but was on the bench and then they both went to the room. George arguing gone cobra. Ron left with final. Half time taught him streets. I know does so. Yeah i heard the joke. The lebron left with five minutes left before i left with twelve minutes left in the fourth. Lebron made in seven minutes longer than me. I am out of here. this game is over. I'm going to walk nuggets. Prepare for tomorrow. i like why. What the the question is wouldn't brandon brings up the calm between football players. That is a question about showing sportsmanship to your competition right. I think the question you know when you leave the binge when your team is still playing it's about are you selling your team out are you. You know what i mean. Are you leaving your teammates out to dry because the nba playoffs. You have the pleasantries with the opposition at the end of a series. Not after game five when it's three two so to me. It's very simple does it. Does anybody actually think lebron is a bad teammate. Is anybody actually think. He's leaving his teammates out to dry. If not then. I will take his word. And anthony davis word. They went into get treatment. They didn't want to be there. Nobody wanted to be there they left. I don't think his teammates are mad at him about it. Tell me if you think i'm wrong. The lebron bad team. Jack jack scott something i've got. I've got my finger of church when i'm gonna go to at church. What one thing about it. We know we know the bras. Not a bad teammate. But one thing we do know he's a champion and people always try to critique the stock there but news plas- star players do what they want. He's not the first one to do it. Did the cameras on him. I i've been on teams with star players. My teams walked up and it's not because of their saw loser might be treatment. Might be other things. I'm telling you to stop me on any team. You can do what you want. And that just what it is all my goodness. I'm sure he. He went back and got treatment. I have. I have no issue with it at all because i'm a bailout type of guy. Marina both is books. Come out here. Hey movies i don't like this movie seal later. Hey your birthday party is kind of like as peaked. I'm gone i'm out of there. So i'm okay with the bronze what we're down thirty six at one point. I'm gone now. If i think it's good leadership to send a message to not only everyone else like. Hey kate your shots. Hey andre drummond. don't bounce the ball off my shin. A frank vogel put a lineup out there that make sense but if he's legit just going back like oh shoot treatment. Oh i gotta go back. I don't buy that. i buy that. He is sending a message to the players in the team. I don't. I don't think it's just like oh well. The trainer available right now. Looks like i should go back my ankles. He gets obviously doesn't hold on. Obviously if it's if it's a close game will he would still be let's say he fouled out and it was a close game so you can't go back in obviously in that circumstance. He doesn't leave the bench area but brandon. I just want to ask brain and like is this something as a player that actually bothers you order. You just think it's like lebron might be getting part of a pass when other guys wouldn't like or actually bob what we're bought bothers me is how we're talking about it because this is something that i would have done as a player but i would have done it. Standing that the next day the media would crush before walking off too early so this is something that i've done before but let's not sit up here and make an excuse for lebron james. That's all. I'm saying all right. Well if this does come down to a. Let's see what he can do and game six tomorrow night. seems unlikely. He's going to go but we're back talk in the quarterback battle in new orleans. Tastes him help. Can you really beat out. James for the starting job to be discussed next. This was i. I a saturday on fox. It's one of the greatest robberies sports socks and the yankees and sacks we got dodgers battling the braves cubs and giants saturday seven eastern on fox and fox sports at time. Now for stories to start your morning you we go. Little lakers suns game five. No anthony davis for the lakers. He was out with a groin. Strain and the sun came out swinging. They were up by thirty at the break. They won the game by thirty. The only sore spot for phoenix reinjured that shoulder. He had leave. We'll see how he does. Moving on but the lakers lose. Lebron now sits on the brink of his first ever first. Round exits syria's after the game. I'll ask you us that's nipple. I'm they did whatever they wanted to get someone his game and That'd be better. Obviously if you want to game seven. So i was in lots of Learn from his game a lot to cover. See you know what we gotta do. Better on a game six but I mean they pretty much kicked assamese nothing else. Look nick i i know you firmly. Believe the lakers are still in this. Why do you think lebron the lakers can rally win this series. Well it's very simple to me. And by the way i i should say people are just tuning in. I obviously got everything wrong about yesterday's game. I thought the lakers went. I thought lebron look good. Lebron looked mediocre best. The lakers played their worst game that they've played all season long. And it's the worst playoff game. Lebron been apart from a team standpoint. Maybe ever with that said. Here's what it is. The lakers were favored in game. Six and game six is at home so obviously they have to win that game. I think they will and then the question is do you trust through hell or high water. No matter the circumstances that lebron james is not going to beat the game. Seven i do. It's been thirteen years since thirteen years. Yeah thirteen years. Since the bron- lost game seven and that when he scored forty five points and they lost in the final minute so it. The sun's iding know this. I think there was a sense of urgency for the sons yesterday oddly. That wasn't there for the lakers. Because the sun's no they got to win this and six that the sons were in the must win last night the lakers were not at least. That's how both seem to approach it now. I know brandon thinks that the sons are flatly the better team and through. Five games of the series brandon appears to be correct. I don't think that's how it will look through seven games of the series. I don't think the lakers are going to shoot outside. Lebron six twenty five from three again. I don't think campaign is going to be the second coming of skip to my lou. The and one mix tape toward as rafer alston. I also don't think this sons are gonna average one turnover of quarter against the league's best defense the way they need yesterday. So for all those reasons brandon. I think the odds makers in vegas have it right. I the lakers will win game. Six and then it's a game seven and if it's a game seven i'm gonna go with lebron what i'm about to take my my weekly check here on fox and i'm gonna go to foxsports bet and i'm double down on on the sons because it's simple you know they don't have enough. Nick the lakers. I'm sorry don't have enough. You look at what the sound was able to do. You have booked gopher thirty and then you had a cpa three only had eight and only eight but the other stepped up. Took the pain that you just talked about. Mr. cain bridges johnson. They stepped up and they've been doing all series guys that you can lean on but then you look on the other side goes down. We've been talking about this all years. The same story orangerie drummond game. Four five points last night. Seven schreuder eight points last night. Ten matthew six in game four last night five gusau went for twelve points in game four last night day. Can't trust these guys. This is all bad for lebron. James lebron james. Excuse me and the lakers. So for that reason why it's over it's not even to make it the game seven nick league's going back to the history of the game. Thirteen years this thirteen years that it doesn't matter he also said that yesterday he said. Oh lebron's going to play forty minutes. He didn't make it to forty minutes. Lebron james is going to probably have thirty points. Didn't have thirty points and is over left early. Okay i'm gonna. I'm gonna try to kill a narrative here because all year we can go up the tapes. We have heard that this lakers team not only has enough but is better than last year's team. Marcus look we got on. The buyout. Market andre drummond. Who's making like thirty million dollars. Were only paying fifty cents to. It's the deal of the century and we got the sixth man of the year. Get rid of playoff rondo later. Don't need you anymore. Bring in dreamt schreuder. Who gave us zero points so nick. I think there's a raging narrative that lebron has to put this team of guys that he found venice beach on his back and drag them through. That is not the narrative it's been all year. Ad went down but this lineup should be enough in one final thing. Throw another little stat out for you. I just one little thing that just sits pile on. Nick day me let me continue it. The other thing is here lebron. Are we going to see uber aggressive. Lebron and we look at his free throws didn't go to the line at all and granted. There was a few calls that could have gotten that. He didn't but hey if he was aggressively going to the line he would've gotten a few to go into the whole. You would have gotten into the line a few times. He's averaging only three attempts to in playoff. So what is your take on. Lebron not being wildly aggressive at the rim and the fact that all of a sudden this lakers team is built poorly. When all year we were saying and how genius lincoln was. I didn't i. Didn't i'm not saying it's built poorly. I haven't said that. I'm saying schreuder who i've liked all year and scored zero points last night and has not been the same guys. Enter turning govan. Kcpt why things been incredibly. Valuable scored zero points. Last night i don't love some of the lineups. They're running out there. But it doesn't mean i think the roster's broken. I think the lakers will win thursday. And if they win thursday jenna then it's a game seven. Yeah i could be wrong. I was wrong yesterday. We'll find honey findings on games. And i don't think. Ad shooter in casey combined for zero points again our quick. Take your pick out the door. Mass clippers that series tied to peace game five tonight brandon who wins. I think all the predictions are just perfect right now. We're talking about nba playoff also. Yes the clippers win tonight. And they went the next game and they move on cloud. I'm going with my Large adults levin son luka doncic charlottesville virginia brandon's right that right now all his picks look great. One week ago the pendulum shift in the other direction. I think they shift back. Starting tonight mavs win.

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April 14  Hour 2  More NBA Talk | Christian McCaffrey Record Contract

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April 14 Hour 2 More NBA Talk | Christian McCaffrey Record Contract

"Back to the show powered by. Pvc We started the program today. Normally start with interviews on the show but we have big news when you have a great guest Colefax yet you try to move mountains. He tried to move mountains here on the program and by moving mounds I mean just scheduling different the different topics and things like that. Jay Corn Gay was on with us Vice President of racing sports operations Ad- TO A west gate super book getting set to come to The Lodge Casino at Blackhawk. And I'm excited for that man. May I was the original date set to open up and how they're going to be operating what they're doing. They're exactly but I'm not. We don't have all the details still you know as we're all waiting for the sports world and how that's going to look but should be a lot of fun. I know a lot of sports fans are excited about it. It is a top text Tuesday. First advantage text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine six came out. GonNa pull away with this thing. Get up by two. Is Dixon GonNa pop back in and tie this thing up can Kinh Mon hold his own? Skin bone one our very first top text Tuesday Colfax. So you know. He's kind of like dead historic figure here on top text Tuesday But can he hold his own some some of the The newer winners have found ways to to get involved recently. And I want to see how that how that goes down has our boy. Mclean won any yet. Mcleans had some solid tax lately. I feel like he's bringing it feel like we're also like you know that's supportive parent. Were really supporting. These texts. Guys are growing your sports steaks and and I- Colfax. I'd like to take a lot of responsibility for that. It's all you yeah would like that Texter brick Dixon says Brady broncos also had a ton of go right for them leading up to the super bowl dangling back to fifty barely beat. The J. McCarron led bengals and over time. I was on a cruise ship when I watched that game. Yeah they aired it because it was senate. I gave everyone a game They put it out on the big screen where they normally played movies but aired it out there. That was the only broncos game I thought it was going to miss during the vacation so I was very stressed about. It found out they were playing. Because there's Monday night. Football gotTA watch. It was raining was pouring down rain. I stayed out. There might have had an adult beverage or seven while watching that game and it was one of the cruelest ways to watch a broncos game ever just raining on the ocean beautiful anyway. Sorry I digress. Miami Beats New England in the last week to give Denver Home Field advantage throughout. Yep with you things right. Things went right in those games. Pittsburgh comes to Denver Without Antonio Brown. Who got hurt the week before? Big Ben was on one leg. I will give von Credit. He had a nice little run in there. But it wasn't all Vaughn and the defense I q you could say that about a lot of things you know. You're normally when you have a great team. A lot of other great things can happen. The broncos weren't necessarily a great team their offense was based on game management with Brock. Osweiler or Peyton Manning. That's how it was this team morphed into more of a defensive football team almost overnight because they they lose to the colts in that playoff game the year before and you move on from John Fox. Because you're not kicking and screaming all at whatever and then you kind of say all right. Payton's on that last leg auto know. Remember all the rumors that were surrounding peyton manning and the Broncos it was like oh the Broncos are done with manning always going to move on from any well. I never believed that but I do think. Discussions are being had even with paid manning that were something along the lines of. You know it's going to be a different year. I am starting to hit that wall. Manning is starting to hit that wall. Are we ready for that? And the broncos knew that started building up the defense more and more and getting solidifying those positions with dairy and Stewart's and TJ wards and Keep Toledo. Was there obviously demarcus where it was kind of up and down that year but he's still provided that stability and leadership the linebacking core Brandon Marshall. Danny Trevathan that defensive lie Derek Wolfe so VESTA Williams Millie Jackson. I'm seeing similarities to that. I'm seeing a Broncos team that is that is looking at their situation with drew lock. They're looking at their offensive line. And they're saying all right. We have some weapons that we like but drew lock. Isn't there yet. We have to make sure we have to get. We have to get the you know the offensive line secure for drew. Lock a little bit. You Know Dixon say pit without Brown and Bell was huge. Well the broncos without Peyton Manning. Fully healthy was also huge. I think we could say that. So I think that's something to consider first advantage textile through on nine nine six. Ken Bone just sending pictures. GonNa like that Eaten Prom Queen. Twenty twenty it is just a pig. Oh my gosh. First advantage text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. How did we ever get into that? How did that start Colfax? Are we going to get letters at some point because it's not me it's the whole I can I can? I can push that off absolutely. I can't but when you look at that you know that defense and the broncos kind of knew it they were planning for now. They're doing the same thing because they're saying all right. Well drew locks young. He's unproven we don't know how he's going to be. We really don't. They've had a hard time actually committing to them. You know it took a long time for the broncos to say and I still don't think they're there but it did. It took the Broncos along time to commit but then they bring in Graham Glasgow. All right. We're going to go there. Got That right side. Solidified careful pressures on. And then of course you go pick up. Melvin Gordon. Who's a nice weapon? So the broncos. They did right in the off season four drew lock. We got your weapon another weapon and we got you an offensive line other offensive linemen that should help solidify this line a little more. That being said when you look at the depth chart for the Broncos even though Portland Sutton is there and even though you have Gordon and Philip Lindsey our any of you realistically looking at that offense saying yeah. That thing's going to do something special. I think they're going to be okay but I honestly have a feeling. They'll be a lot like that. Broncos offense from two thousand fifteen that is they're not going to get better that doesn't mean drew locks not. GonNa get a lot better or this fairly young offensive. Line's going to get a lot better but this upcoming year. I don't see them as going out and quote unquote winning games. I go back to the defense and I think that when you look at this roster there are a lot of similarities to the Super Bowl fifty roster. You look at the defensive line now. That was a weak point. That was probably the weakest point for the Broncos in two thousand fifteen they had good dad pretty good linebackers Brandon Marshall Nathan inside linebackers. Were very good. Had a difficult time guarding tight ends and running backs out of the backfield but they made up for it. Being Marshall had seventy seven tackles that year Danny Trevathan at two interceptions in seventy three tackles. They were good defensive line of struggling and let's keep in mind Derek Wolfe with solid. I don't even think Derek Wolfe was at his best that year. In fact one of his best years production-wise was last year. You see me. Jackson solid grady tough Sylvester Williams was. There was the starting nose tackle in that Super Bowl and you know he was up and down. He was more or less more or less. You don't come bust but it didn't quite work out shift gears and you look at twenty twenty on paper Durell Casey. I will take him at this stage in his career over anybody on that line super bowl fifty shelby Harris. I like him. You got them for cheap. It worked out. And I'll tell you pursell Mike Sal. I mean I'm excited to see what he can do. Defensive tackle spot I mean. He looked good last year. I don't know if I'm easy better than Sylvester Williams at this point in time. Probably pretty close. So that was the biggest weakness for the broncos they upgraded that for sure and again. You're talking about the best defense in the league. So when I say weakness into the fifteen you're looking. You're digging for a weakness. They didn't have many of them. And so I'm just saying that when you look pound for pound position by position player by player that was the weakest overall upgrade for sure again. The linebacker spot the biggest question. Mark for the Broncos you know Brandon Marshall and Truth and at that stage were solid. Todd Davis I think we like. He was injured to start the season. Alexander Johnson is an energy player. Can he be a sound player? That's that's my biggest fear so I don't think they're really mimicking linebacker side of things but then you go to your outside linebackers all right you got. You're working on that four pillar thing. Colfax von Miller von Miller. All right yeah. Von Miller and fifteen was better than von Miller. Now the still the hope is that there's a lot left in the tank. At least for two more seasons Bradley Chubb. Essentially takes the role of a demarcus ware. Who was up and down that year but his veteran presence was important shack. Barrett was a with a backup on that team. But Assuming Chub can stay healthy there's a lot of us including me that thank yes. Von Miller is a hall of Famer. Yes von Miller is number two of all time but Bradley Chubb might not be far behind. Now you look at the corners the corner there. I mean they're backfield their defensive backfield with tremendous. I mean that was the no fly zone man. That was a big reason. They were so successful. Keep to leave Chris Ayres. Tj Gordon Darrien store. Shift Gears Justin Simmons. I think we can all agree on pace or is better at free. Safety than Darian Stewart. Kareem Jackson was playing like a top defensive player last year. Obviously he misses the last two games with the DUI arrest but Kareem Jackson might be better than Tj Ward but very similar football players ward in his prime for. Denver was solid so similar. The cornerback position continues to be a big question. Mark to me that that second spot is much bigger than your interior linebacker. Spot you have. Aj boy which you're hoping relieves. The void fills the void left by Chris. Harris junior depends on the boy. Is that you get you know Jacksonville version or Houston version. If it's Houston version there you go. You have an elite corner. And you're set right now. It's Isaac data maybe bryce Callahan at that second spot. This is why I think it's essential. This is why I think it's huge. That this team drafts Christian Fulton. And you complete that four pillars base. Because that is what the Broncos had in two thousand fifteen yes. They had a lot of great players in between to fill those gaps but they had to elite pass rushers maybe even two and a half or two and a half if you want to Count Shaq Barrett that year. He was pretty good you know. He had four fumbles forced. He was still getting sacks but he was good. This was an aggressive defense and they were aggressive because their corners could shut down to leave and Harris. They were top four in the league enforced. Fumbles number one in sacks. This was an aggressive d. That's what having the four pillars can do for you when you have to shutdown corners and to monster pass rushers. You can win a lot of football games. I events text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six talking about the NBA proposal. To I've got my power to play sports. Poll question up at the whole show dot com if the NBA starts up. How would you propose to do this? This structure March madness style regular style. Whatever McLean texting in I you could win. Top text Tuesday with great suggestions with great ideas. Basically playing commissioner. I like that McLean. Says HERE'S MY NBA playoff proposal all thirty NBA teams participate. Best five out of nine turning doubleheaders every day doubleheaders teams everyday like each like the nuggets are playing to Gander. You just doing double header games like I like the I like where you're going with us. Mclane sharpen that up cinemax. How does that look exact double headers for each like each team's GonNa play two games? That's GONNA be tough. All thirty teams participate in the best five out of nine tournament interesting interesting and even add that one of the mix noobs saying even like Jackson. Melik was good but is he. Is He better than us? Not Better than draw. Casey is he better than shelby. Harris Shelby hers says a lot to prove still so I mean that could be going to say. Maybe that's a wash but that that defensive line was again Derek. Wolfe was not as good that year so Vesta Williams was was considered a bust for the most part. Me Jackson was solid but that was again. That's your weakest spot and you gotTa be careful saying that. There's like the you know. The Michael Jordan Bulls had a weakness. They did have a weakness. I don't think many people knew what the hell it was but they had won. The broncos had a weakness that year. And if you wanted to say they had kind of two on the defense. It was middle inside linebacker struggle to guard the tight end and overall their defensive line wasn't overwhelming. They weren't the best did absorb a lot of blocks though and allowed guys von Miller and demarcus ware to do a lot of great things but overall kind of average Dixon tries but soda steers drinking straight Bourbon. He's drinking laimbeer. Oh boy that paints a terrible picture. Nineteen minutes after the hour will take a quick break power to play sports poll question of the day. What are you here? Restructuring Mba McLean allied. Keep firing at me. I want to see what that looks like more. That's at the whole show dot com. Give me ideas. I'll put it up. There is one of the options. Would you like to see a March madness style? Everybody in or just top sixteen in and it's just one game or no need to reinvent the wheel here. Let's just go best to best of seven and it's four rounds just like normal or you shorten it all down four rounds but let's go best of three. Give me a ideas for that. We'll talk about it broncos. I believe John. Elway is copying his notes from two thousand fifteen. They're not exactly the same. But when you look at position for position it does feel like the broncos are starting to get some of those core players back and investing the right amount of money and in some cases getting them first song and dance when it comes to the trade deadline but you are to trade which you are investing more money. They're also in the day and age. Were running backs are getting cut and getting traded and moved on because those big money deals are terrible. There's one team that says No. I don't care about the trends I care about one guy and we'll talk about that coming up next you're listening to the hall's show powered by. Pdc energy thirteen ten KFI brady will be back after the break the best UNC bears starting game coverage lives on thirteen ten KFI K. Hates Dan Patrick in? You're listening to the whole show on thirteen. Ten K F K twenty minutes after the hour. Do WanNa think some great sponsors here the make this program what it is. 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One seeds get first round by conference. Finals are each five games. Nba Finals go best of seven. Yeah that's not a bad idea for sort of bad thought at all kind of like that Let's see came back. Maybe a hall of Famer. But he needs to bring his broom and come down to the station cleanup Dixon's or go to the hall of fame. You know yeah. Dixon does have his own room. Doesn't he came back is came back has his own room by now. I mean the first top text to Texter to get to five wins. Yeah well it's more like not his. He's King of that room right in the top text for tomorrow's Day rooms the top of that room and he owns that room but he's not he's not outside outside of that he doesn't have a room like Dickson has room room. Dickson has his own theme song. Yes it's true so I mean when you're yeah I mean he is the arch nemesis. Y'All GonNa play parks appreciate about the whole. You know a lot of you guys just develop these personas throughout the programs and and that's what it's all about. So yeah he does. He has a room the nobody goes to. Nobody wants to start all over it. It's scary stuff man. Yeah terrify came. Back off came back Kim could ever. I mean definitely owns the top text. Tuesday room is a pretty special round fans from all over the country. When I go see that room and look at Whoa look it. Wow in January of twenty twenty. Look at that text. Oh Look Wolf Guy wrote down and then you just see the Golden Statue of k Mak standing you know with like a Cape then. I think that's going to help. That looks in my mind. I haven't been there in a while though we're not supposed to go out to any place so you have no idea how it's guidelines. Yeah I no clue. We had the janitor Bob there but he's been it you know we shut it down and we were making some dough. Offer that Colfax. No admission was nice. People fifty cents. We'd millions of people coming in every day so it's like every one hundred thousand dollars so obviously we were the first to shut down. Yeah because they were like you guys are attracting way too many people to this place. I mean people are coming from all over the world to look at these rooms and to look at the hall of fame and some of the greatest Thursday night special room there where you can view all of my biggest picks. You know we just have. It's amazing you know. They worked so hard but janitor. Bob Is there by himself and hope. He's okay I haven't even called him I don't. He doesn't own a cell phone now. It's the weirdest cleans. He says he does the pigeon thing. You know like notes by via pigeon but I've never I've never received a pigeon from him so I'm not sure how it worked. I event is text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. You can call us three five three thirteen ten or toll. Free eight seven seven three five three thirteen ten. We've had a little bit of change on this show. Thirty seven percent saying hey just make it a standard playoff series best of seven with four rounds in no. You're not going to do a regular season three weeks ago or two weeks ago. Maybe I said now if you can start it start with a two week at least a week of regular season games. Give me like three four tuneup games to determine seeding but somebody you think. Oh No. That's that's unfair because these guys aren't ready to play yet I'd rather them not be ready to play in three to four games determining seeding but I guess Colfax the draw would be the the issue with that would be it would hurt teams like the Memphis and the mavericks who are right on the inside. Although no mavericks are in it'd be like it hurt. The teams like Memphis. Grizzlies were sitting in that eighth spot by three games and PORTLAND. And the Pelicans and the kings the spurs they were right on the outside looking in. So how would that impact their position now? Obviously it doesn't mean Denver's just GonNa get that third seed if we didn't one week in three or four games because the nuggets rolling ahead of the jazz by game and a half so yeah you could have a little bit there. I more more or less just like the idea of three or four more games you get closer to finishing up that regular season Because I think there were eighteen games left for the nuggets. If I'm if I'm not mistaken eighteen so then you get down to that fifteen. Maybe fourteen games left. And then you use those games as tuneup but also kind of determining the standings so yeah you you'd basically that would mean that in the east teams that are on the bubble like Washington Charlotte. You'd be out because they were five games behind the magic so if you just did two or three games yet but that was. Kinda my idea. I've gone away from that a little bit because it's it just sounds like more and more we're going to get into a you know the yesterday where we talked about was the twenty five day plan was to get eleven days of a workout where they're kind of working out there following the guidelines from their team and then they have like a two week training camp. You know what I've gotten to the point now another weekend of no sports and I think it's going to hit us more and more man. I think that's the way it is and again this being from sports so host. I know there are way way way more important things. Colfax again in the back of my mind. It's always like this. As soon as sports is up and running that means everything is up and running. That means everything's on. Its Way to being to being there. So you're like no what are what are you doing talking to the NBA? We're going to have an NFL season. I don't I can't imagine getting that far into this. And they just shut it down. Shut everything else. I mean you are starting to see nationally. Some of these countries lifting slowly but surely lifting restrictions. So that's what gives me hope of now. We're doing it here. In April we might have a way different story when we hit the end of the month. Which we're told the stay at home order is the twenty sixth and again those of you wondering about what? Where do we we literally have? What two people in the building at all times here at thirteen ten? Kfi media is deemed essential Keeping this radio station running is more than just sitting on here and talking on the air all the time so we have other things that we're all going to do. There are certain. Show hosts that are out doing programs via phone via mobile equipment But Colefax you and I for the most part and I think The one guy that runs around with a lantern is allow. You know he's been in the building a few times. But we're practicing that as much as we possibly can. We are told the twenty-sixth. Maybe that's when we reassess the situation. But I tell you by the time again the May you gotta wonder. Where will we be at this point? You are seeing some positive. You're hearing a lot of light at the tunnel light at the end of the tunnel. Speak so I don't pretend to be a doctor on this. I don't pretend to be a politician on this. I'm going off of what our news and sports people Throughout the days here are giving us updates on. And that's that's the best. You can do Dixon. Do you really think they needed two week. Training camp. Do I think they really need to training camp. We talked about this yesterday. Listen I've always been one of those guys that said. Do we really need hall? We really need the combines. Do we really need all that we need. Do we do. The broncos need to be in training camp for a full month. Dido T. as we need rookie training camp would probably do need rookie training camp to OTA's. I've kind of always been one of those guys says no the Summer Leagues Strange. But you WanNa see what you have. There's also a part of me that just says throw them all out there because then they're all on an even playing field and nobody has summer league then okay. That's summer basketball for. You probably not probably not Dixon. But that's what they're talking about doing and and the two week training camp if anything would would give you another stall tactic to give you two three to four more weeks if you had the you know the eleven days into two to three more weeks of basically saying hey we're getting the NBA GOING. That does give us another two weeks to continue to assess the situation and the players are in a training camp right now so they'll be ready if the worst case scenario hits and they tell us we can't do. We can't do sports then. We'll just sit back home. You know they just had a two week training camp. I mean I know sounds weird but that that does by a little more time. That's a text. That's a good one. Are we going to mention this? That this is the latest in a season the rockies have been this close to the dodgers in forever. That's very true. Very neck and neck right now Colfax. It's zero zero. I don't know who's GonNa pull head in this thing but you're right because listen the rockies have been closed they were close two years ago to the dodgers but they have they been this late in the season where they just neck and neck tie. I don't know the look at that Thirty six minutes after the hour. Let's out of here and get the latest on the local sports flash thirteen ten. Kfi Am preps. Radio is northern Colorado's home for the past high school coverage. Start Your morning off right with your recommended. Daily intake of news weather and traffic to get yourself up and running. Join US mornings. Okay all six to nine thirteen ten. Kfi More back to the whole show all rocks liquor. They bring us our game beer the week but man. I I gotTa tell you you know they. They did everything in my mind. Just absolutely perfectly they. Hey we're open when they could be but as soon as things started to get tough. We're GONNA shut these doors and we're going to. We're just utilize our drive through. Because we've been perfecting that for a while now so we're ready to go so It was. It was a seamless transition for them and Man. I I went through. It have been through a couple of times. I think we all have and we go through there and they just they really right through man. I mean they they get you through. You could order ahead if you need to. That's on the rocks liquor there half a mile south of highway thirty four forty seventh avenue. Tell them we said you hear from the whole show powered by PDC energy. Yeah this is the Mcclain's like Dude I. I was actually not being serious. This was my attempt to be outrageous. Double headers man. I was like I don't know how they're going to do that. Baseball th tube to triple headers man. We could do it all day long. Dixon texting in. It's not like they're starting the whole season over. They were over halfway through. It's not like they have to relearn plays that's true. I don't know the two weeks maybe getting in shape. I don't 'cause a lot of that. Training camp is utilized to to learn plays into GEL. And all that. So do they need it. No but I I'm thinking I'm actually Mora on the line of thinking that they're gonna use it for more of a stall tactic where it's two weeks you're training. You're getting ready we got. Nba fans excited cool. But we're also monitoring the situation pretty closely and then that gives us an idea will then Brady. Why would you even start it? From the get-go maybe give some fans. Hope maybe give people some hope. There's a season coming up that they're going to reload the season and and all the hopes would be to do that but at least gives them that two week buffer while players. Were Getting Ready. Rather than just a week he gives them two weeks while players are getting ready to restart. This could that story. I talked to you about Colefax. The NASCAR star collars and fire for using the racial slur in the virtual race. I watched it fall uncomfortable. He was fired Tuesday by by chip. Nasi racing completing a stunning downfall according to ESPN. He uttered a racial slur during a livestream virtual race and then watched as nearly every one of his sponsors dropped him. It was very casual. How he said it Colfax. There was no anger. No one was mad at each other. He he's talking. He's got the headset and he says. Hey can you hear me? You can't hear me and he says hey blank and then a bunch of people just went like what and then some guy wrote dude we can. We can hear you. We can hear you. Yes we have a rule in radio here that even when the mics are off. You don't say anything because you just never know you just never know man and again no excuse for that type of word that type of behavior. But it's like I've always said this before if you say that kind of stuff in your in the privacy of your own home then you're probably maybe that kind of person I don't know ultimately it's like the like the Donald Sterling thing. People were mad because well that was the privacy of his own home and he said all those terrible things. You can't do that. I'm like yeah. But he was married to like a girl who was like forty years fifty years younger than him and was out to get something and it doesn't erase the things that he said and the bad things that he said and it doesn't respect out there. You gotta be responsible for your own actions folks so yeah it's a it's a tough situation for sure. A lot tougher for those people that had to hear that first event text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. I think the Broncos are really looking to two thousand and fifteen now. I'm hearing all this. That they might possibly move up from number fifteen in the first round. A lot of people are talking about that there. There's some legitimate talks at the broncos are going to try to get aggressive here and move up to maybe as high as A number nine or something along those lines but I maybe you know again. They're going to be looking at offensive lineman if they do that. Which would shock the hell out of me and I guess that's the only way to do it. But what are you going to give up? What is the price to move up that many spots? It's GonNa have to give quite a bit. You're going to have to give quite a bit to do that. And I think the Broncos can get exactly what they need at fifteen because I don't see Fulton moving past fifteen. I don't see Henderson. Moving past fifteen so you have your corners there. I do like Fulton a lot more. Who had kind of an up and down nineteen but all the projections. You read on this guy and you watch on this guy. All the specialists that have studied this guy say that that trajectory is going to go up. Big Time should go up. Big Time Even as soon as his rookie season Henderson Guy. You gotTa Watch out for. He could be good. He could be electric but they do worry about his growth. Is that a guy that's going to quickly take on that number to rule or is he going to be better fit to be a nickel dime. So that's why I'm liking Fulton. But if the broncos move up and that's to me definitely means they're not going to be looking at a cornerback. Because I mean they could be. You Have Jeff Okudu out of Ohio State whose projected to go in the top five. So maybe but I. I don't see that the broncos getting that aggressive and most mock drafts when you look at least those top. Five five picks could see him going early. Some could see him going as early as three. You know even for the Detroit Lions because they traded Darius slay so they're going to be looking for another shutdown cornerback overall so. I don't think guys there so I to me. That means they're moving all the way up to look at an offensive lineman potentially a linebacker. Isiah Simmons is there but he's projected to go. He's another guy that's projected to go. Pretty High I mean I've seen a lot of the giants. Don't WANNA fifteen. So if the broncos do this if they really do move up that means. They're looking at an offensive lineman at this stage in my prediction would be way off. You go no corner you go offense then you off the top four Tristan. Worse Jack Willis Andrew Thomas and back then they must believe that those guys aren't going to be there and we thought that I thought for sure Thomas won't be there Willis won't be there then. It's kind of start to be a crap shoot outside of that. And maybe Becton's there he's floating toward that ten seventeen spot. Probably so the BRONCOS WANNA make sure they can move up and get him. That's where they'd go but a lot of the rumors. Denver Post reporting on it Several bleacher report. Saying maybe the broncos are very interested in it again. You hear this a lot. This is also a lot of posturing to teams do this. We're moving up. We're exciting. Because then he then you get teams to make sure that they take those offensive linemen that they didn't think were there. This is all a game still so I'll believe it when I see it. I'm sticking with my pick forty seven minutes after after the hour. We're GONNA take a quick break here. Let's wrap up this whole show powered by energy. I have room for a few more. Texts will crown the ultimate winner today. This K Mak poll ahead of the pack and get number six. Do we have a surprise swoop in here amongst the whole against we'll be right back. Get your message out to our community with no co now nine. Am to ten. Am Weekdays on que? Get Your Day started right with up-to-date news weather and sports mornings with Gail six. Am to nine. Am Weekdays on thirteen ten JFK? Hey this is Mike. Rowe art listening to the show on thirteen ten. Kfi That was that's a good one. Tiger king still has some staying power. Colefax came back. One final shot there for good measure. Carol Baskin killed her husband. Wacked him don't tell me it didn't happen. Fed Him to the Tigers busy snacking. That's pretty good man. Everybody is doing like a lot of these one off shows to net flicks to the the interview thing. I watched last night Fox thirty one and TMZ aired TMC's other the documentary about the documentary. Last night it was like everybody's trying to piggyback off of this right. A mclane says I know disallow offseason transactions and will tack on this season on the next season every teams records carry over. I you know I don't know if you're being extreme. They'RE MCLEAN. But I did. I did think at one point do you just like the the transactions like Paul millsap his contracts coming up at the end of the season. Is that something now? You've got to renegotiate that whole thing. Is that something where you just reloaded? Now you did get through eighty percent of the season though so you were pretty close. I mean there was eighteen games left or so but yeah we'll get to that another time Colfax. We got crown a top text Tuesday winner today and I co FACS from the get-go can only be one. There can only be one bid Dixon Arts Nemesis of the show came back as a loan atop the mountain. No more Colfax go ahead you can. Do you want to read Do you WanNa read that Texas. Pretty long it is very long. Maybe see if I can get it out in the time. We got here okay. Holy Moly House way back was computers. Do you want me to top three Vaughn number two. Brady's always right and he'll be glad to tell you no way came actually triple t leader and no way. 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Nets/Clippers, Carson Wentz's Colts, Joel Embiid's MVP chances

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Nets/Clippers, Carson Wentz's Colts, Joel Embiid's MVP chances

"What's the first thing first listeners. Issue boy shea. Sharp co host of fps ones undisputed. I wanted to tell you about my new podcast club shea where we always do something before to something each week. I said down with gas for a drink and conversation and his host and proprietor club. Shea i've welcome in esteem guests. Such a snoop dogg floyd money. Mayweather lavar ball isaiah. Thomas just mentioned a few with. I'm talking to an athlete. A musician and actor or lifelong fan club shea. If the place where people sharing inspiring and motivational stories about their journeys to prominence the new episode drops. Every monday on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe to clubs shade now and make sure you never miss a new episode now back to first things first. First things first on a monday morning did. The colts suddenly become super bowl. Contenders with new quarterback weight. Loss carson wentz. How should tom brady be bending his off season. Because he doesn't have quo and has drawn be passed the king in the mvp race in with that we say good morning and welcome ourselves back to you. I just great to be here and curse. John nick right brandon marshall our guy. Kevin is off this morning but neck. What is there room on the well for joel. Embiid come on in iraq is a two man race. I've insane two men race. I think brandon's got the hottest take on this that coming up later. It's great to be back near you go. Well we're going to stay in the nba game. Last night must watch tv. Nets clippers burning. Say this could be a championship review. Next give us a brand could be losing his mind nets without katie again. Last night it didn't matter because james harden because me because they played a little defense. It was all too much for the clippers. Nets win with that. Nick i gotta ask you starting to believe in this team at a little bit that six straight wings for this brooklyn team. Integrate question and as i was watching that game last night. The game that brandon months ago said was going to be the nba finals. That we get clippers nets. I thought you know. I know what the old nick would say. The old nick would save great win by the nets. All it took was paul. George not playing the final three minutes deondraye jordan with the most absurd tip in you've ever seen and then maybe the worst off into foul call this decade in the nba. Gotta win. that's what the old nick would say but the new nick. The refreshed rejuvenated after a week. Off now what i want to say. Is this a great win by brooklyn and it's not even the most important thing that happened to them this week or this past week and nor is the win over the lakers. The most important thing that happened to brooklyn this week was kyrie irving taking a step back and saying james harden is going to be the point guard of this basketball team and that is going to allow their offense which was already functioning at a super high level to function at an even higher level because james harden is a better true point guard thinking geyer era and so it was a great road trip. It was a spectacular trip to los angeles. Beating the lakers and the clippers and the nets feeling great about themselves now brandon none of this addresses their issue of defense nor does it address excuse. I believe an inability to stop who. They're going to have to stop it embodied in but it's a great road trip to integrate road trip games. La la in three straight. It's in great rhode brandon. How do you show so much love. I mean we won six in a row. It's this is the first team in eastern conference. That's gone out with one. Five six games in a row since two thousand and ten and you wanna talk about deep right now. That's what we're gonna do right now mic. It is over you to get on board. Last night was a preview of this year's nba. Finals that's what it was. Nets versus clippers. Nets beat the clippers. Nets are way too much. This is nba two k. Creative team this is on fear this team how they're able to score and you're one hundred percent right. Carrie irvine continues to have this freakish year. He's plan phenomenal. It's the mvp type. Year and james harden is the key to this. The biggest question going into the season was who's going to sacrifice this. James aren't going to be willing to sacrifice it not score as much and take as many shots. That's what he's been able to do. He's been able to touch the ball more and pass the ball way more like this dude isn't even taken shots like he used to do. I used to and houston. This dude is phenomenal. He's having a phenomenal year. He is the mvp of this of this team and we didn't even have kb last night. So nick it's time for you to get on board because these guys have finally figured out their role and their step into their purpose this year. It's amazing let's go nets and so listen and they did it without kevin durant which obviously is maybe. The most notable part of this whole thing is duran's nursing that hamstring here if this is the nba finals then the nets absolutely can win the title. I think they can beat the clippers in a series. Here is my for your net and it's not just about holistically about defense. It's about what you have seen in this. The best part of his six game winning streak beating the warriors and the kings. That doesn't matter all that much but beating the sun tour. Good being the lakers were exit. Green the clippers who were close to excellent those three wins or really notable but those three teams when anthony davis isn't playing all lack what i believe. Brandon is the nets achilles heel which is an interior presence. And i know how high you are on embiid this year and in the second round of the playoffs forget the conference finals. In the second round the net jury playing johnson the box or embiid and the sixers and then if they get past both of those teams then in the nba finals. I don't think they'll be playing the los angeles clippers. I am going to be playing. The los angeles lakers a my question to you would be as good as they're playing right now. Are you not a little concerned about embodied or jaanus or a d. Being able to have their way with them on the inside because they haven't had to face that during this winning streak well first off. We're going to talk about yoenis and the bucks later on in the show. But i'm definitely concerned about them. Have you been watching them lately. Joplin be oh. We're gonna talk about him later in the show. Yeah i'm little concern. When a concern when it comes to the philadelphia seventy sixers but at the end of the day. This is what i look for. I look for. Tina has three potential sports to at least. Because if you have three you're able to beat the nets but if you have to in one have off-night like the lakers. Then you have. No chance lakers have no ad so they have no chance right now a terrible year even when he's healthy he's a down year for him. The seventy sixers. I'm not concerned about joel. Embiid we'll get past him because they don't have anybody else out of joel embiid. They can give you thirty at night. Consistently ben simmons just now getting back healthy. The shooter's yes. They're doing a phenomenal job. But they're not hitting as many threes did even last year but they are efficient. So no nick. I'm not concerned about the lakers. Not concerned about the books. And i'm definitely not concerned about the seventy sixers doing to edit three. That's exactly what the nets have been doing. Katie against sitting out of sports straight game last night. This big three in brooklyn guys. They've only played seven games together. So far the nick. How much better do you think the team can actually get when you get kevin durant. We'll listen one of the three best players in the world. And they're doing this without him. And what i will say is the big benefit brandon to having a big three is one of them can be out and your team can still function at a super high level. That is the difference. But while i will take lebron. Ad over katie and harden any day of the week. The lakers third best player. Is it schreuder like who who who do you want to. Is it herald. I don't think it's era. Who would who would it. Be that net third best players kyri so when the lakers are without one of their top two guys. They're in real trouble if the sixers or the bucks without one of their top guys. They're in real trouble then. Nets margin of error is greater and that brandon is the whole idea behind the big. Three's if somebody gets dinged up you can still function you can still compete with the best teams in basketball as we saw last night right and that was my last point is exactly that i mean k. d. last four or five games and look what you're seeing right. You got a guy in k. D. every twenty nine kyrie irving twenty seven. And then you have a guy who sacrificed in the most and we're not talking about him james heart and having an mvp year although he's not scoring averaging thirty five like he did last year and houston years before that and james harden. So you know. This is a scary team. Jenna when katie gets back. We'll these guys are finally stepping into their roles. You have james harden saying. I am the point guard to nick's point you have a carry urban saying i'm the shooting guard. I know my road in. Katie is katie. He's probably the second best player in the nba. Right now. i know. I still wanna see these three play a couple more games though. I switch gears. Talk some football now about this guy carson. Wentz can leave the colts to the promise landing year old. We're asking questions it's next is first things first. And it's great to be back bay first things first listeners. I wanted to tell you about a brand new box. Sports app and website foxsports dot com reimagined for the modern sports fan ahead. Download the new app right now. You don't even have to pause this episode every day on the new app and website. You'll see the top stories in sports plus a rich world of written content video social media and analytics to give you a three hundred sixty degrees view of the most important stories of the day streaming live. Tv has never been so easy or elegant. Every fox sports came including all pre game and post game shows as well as the televised version of this show. Just a click away for the extra invested fan. We also go deep with real time. Wagering lines trending profits win probability and key player projection so download the new fox sports app or visit. Www dot foxsports dot com. What do you see is carson winston ceiling in year. One with the colts. Wh let's start here. I'm no insider. But i know a few people and when you think about it i made some calls and look this organization. Thinks he's special this organization trust him. This organization thinks the team trust one. No the team trust him and this isn't about carson wentz. This is about frank the head coach. They truly believe frank. Right is a special coach. He can reach people. that's what they believe. So when you think about when you ask the question. What's his ceiling. Then you gotta go back to what he did. Last time he was with frank he was having an mvp year. He would've won mvp if he didn't get hurt. Nick so i think that is the ceiling. This do truly is a guy who can play football. Something happened in philly. A lot of people believe that they. They put the quarterback ahead of the team. And when you do that you get in trouble. So that won't happen indy. They truly believe they have everything. They need from a management standpoint and also from a personnel standpoint to really bring this whole thing together. Super bowl is the goal for this team. I mean look at what they did last year. And again i go back to what they believe. Frank right especial believe he can reach guys. They think that he did a phenomenal job. With philip rivers last year. Look at what he did last year. Twenty four touchdowns and eleven interceptions the year before he had twenty picks eight ratings. So i think this is a good situation for both parties. nick listen. This was three months ago. When the carson wentz four months ago this point trade rumors. I started percolating. This was the place that i sit on this. Show the stanley place that made sense for them to go. They were going to need a quarterback that we're going to have the cap space in frank rakes there so i think everyone knew. Eventually this was his likely landing spot. I disagree with you on the ceiling. Being a his his twenty seventeen season where he was leading the mvp discussion through thirteen weeks. I don't think that player exists anymore. And i don't know if he ever really existed. I think that was a bit of a mirage. I think if you look back on that season the number of great plays that were made. When he was under pressure under duress you'll look at his astronomical passer rating on third and longs. Those aren't sustainable. The question is can he get back to who he was after that. Prior to this season because two thousand seventeen he was a plus twenty twenty. He was an f minus but twenty eighteen and nineteen. It was good ish. Can he be good each for a team. That otherwise is really well put together. And i think the answer. That question is probably so. What's their ceiling about what it was last year last year. They won eleven games. They were this close to beat the fight. Josh allens in the playoffs if they picked up that fumble they would have beaten the fighting josh challenge in the playoffs. But i have to me brandon. It's not just about the player that he is. I'm a bit of an uncomfortable spot. I want to ask you a question if you are a receiver on the colts and i. Philip rivers seems to be a guy people really love playing with. They don't like playing against him but his teammates seem to really like it and he seems to be a guy that that inspires some loyalty. If you're a receiver on the colts and you haven't met carson but you've read the things we've read. Are you excited about this. Are you happy about this. You want to play with this guy knowing. Just what we know on the outside looking. Look that's amazing thing about the locker room nick and look. I'll be skeptical but right now. He's off to a great start. He's calling his teammates. He's a facetime in his teammates. He's doing everything he's supposed to do so be skeptical but the end of the day. Everybody wants another opportunity. Everybody wants a fresh start. Hell i was a guy to get two or three. Fresh starts and it worked out. Well the first half of my career. It wasn't it. Didn't go the way i wanted to go. It was a bit and then the second half of my career. It was amazing. I became a solution in the locker room. In and i was a guy that people could depend on. So if it happened for me it can happen for carson wentz now. Obviously different distractions in different situations. But i truly believe this is a situation for him. And then you said some interesting nikki. He's talking about team. Let's look at philadelphia bill defensively. They lost the number one guy back there. And malcolm jenkins glued not only to that defense but that whole team. They had no death at the linebacker position. They were depleted at the at the on offense. Alon of upfront. They had really no true run game. They really wasn't committed their no identity and they had no wide receivers so now when you look at the situation you insert carson wentz and you have a top tier defense a top tier running back top tier running game and then you have wa pass. Catchers this is a situation for him and then also include protection atop seven offense align jenner and. Nick let me just throw something else in there. Reports that we're hearing now is they had really lost communication. With doug peterson down the stretch and there was no relationship with the head coach. So now he's got all those things on the team and a guy who really trusts us head coach. A guy who who was his basically was offense. According to the last. I knew really truly successful. Now you restore that confidence and you'd like to believe that he's going into an environment. Where as long as he gained the players trust. The coach is going to sort of make it an easy transition for him with frank reich. Is that not also in play here. Yeah no i think that's all part of it. Which is why i think it can work and to add to it. You go from the team with the most different offensive line combinations last season in recorded. Nfl history to a team that is very stable on the offensive line. Now they might move nelson to tackle. I don't know why you would do that. He's the best guard football but a guy who previously didn't know who was going to be protecting him to a guy who's going to be well protected that works out for my skepticism. Is this i just never hear any accountability from carson. Wentz overweight is gone so badly. And i haven't heard enough from him or even off the record off the record but anonymous accounts from teammates about how he's unfairly portrayed in the media how he's actually this guy in a good way as opposed to the guy who's been portrayed as kind of a selfish may be a guy that's unsure of his positioning. The moment draft. Second round project in jail hurts like this carson. Wentz has gotten exactly what he want he goes to a better team with. The coach succeeded with with better weapons. A better offense of line if he doesn't succeed here then. I think you can wash your hands of him as a player he could not be a better situation for wins. I don't know if we are just too tied to what he didn't. Twenty seventeen because what we have since then is some sample of good play some sample of horrific play and no sample of great play. And so i think the coach will be fine if he is just an above average quarterback. But i don't think the two thousand seventeen wins is coming back at any point brandon. I disagree with you nick. Twenty seventeen wins. I think he's still there. Look next to a guy. Virtually that was in the same situation. You know a lot of people wrote me off. A lot of people thought that oh he. He's not great for the locker room. And then all of a sudden you get a fresh start you have a different perspective. You look yourself in the mirror and you say you know what maybe i can be better. Maybe i should be better. It's it probably is me so because he's not publicly during it i'm sure he's looking at it. Internally and privately saying there are some things that can work on nick. I know it's a little early right. It's you know. We talked about these two early predictions. But i'm going with the come out the afc. I it's a little too early. You can't look at genesis. Beijing in early season the the we haven't even gotten into the football league year yet. It listen if winters twenty seventeen win with those weapons an coaching. That's not a bad take. Especially because afc south might have the two worst teams in the league in the jags. In the texans of the texans trade away does shawn watson so you just build in wins to start your season which is a great spot. I just want to push back a bit. In this regard. I totally understand brandon your story and and guys that have turned corners in their career. I feel like it's a little different for quarterbacks because your entire football life. I don't think you were taught from age thirteen. You have to be the leader on the team. You've got to be part of the solution. I think it's about go. Go kick butt on the field. Go catch a bunch of balls or punch touchdowns create a bunch of yards that your role quarterbacks are taught from the beginning it is partly what you do on the field. Partly what you do in the locker room and twenty eight years old and you still haven't gotten it i just. I think it's harder for that position. Genetic abbott big change then a guy at almost any other professional field. We're gonna have greg jennings to talk about this and a little bit but it is now time for an nba metals. Trae young just off last night. Thirty five and fifteen in win over the nuggets but that is not the kind of action that wins. You a medal. A nick rights is so nick high bar who we got today. I medals in ten days. America i know you've been eagerly awaiting re go bronze medallist james hardie spectacular last night. Thirty seven eleven and seven in a great win for the nets over the clippers. He gets a bronze medalist silver medal. Friday i was sitting on a beach drinking tequila. I said jamal murray fifty points. What here's the thing fifty points with no free throw attempts. It's been done precisely zero times. Nba history so wait. How does that not get a goal because joel bead had one of the finest games maybe finest games of anyone all nba season. No ben simmons no problem. Fifty points seventeen rebounds five assists four blocks to spills win over the bulls on friday. Joel embiid with your gold medal brandon. So there it is. You've got your guy. James harden not your guy. Jamal murray and your new guy. Giant brandon marshall's out. Here just juggling velez so there. It is brain. There's braun over gold medal face. Listen buddy great job on meadows this week on this early monday morning. You day great. I forgot about jamal. Murray what happened to this guy. Is this first time sean. Up to the bubble great man. I forgot acheson out you. No ch i taking it easy on. You gotta take later arms. Gonna make you mad on monday morning. Dr king though hers asking too much of the bron- during eighties essence. One of the greatest lines ever uttered on this show. I will just call it that. thanks next. That's where you next surfing's for like hey first things first listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast with mark. Titus called the people's sports podcast. It comes out every thursday mark and i take one of the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and end up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's greatness and end up drafting. Our ultimate beer league softball team made up of whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because these days we all use as many lives as we can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to have you now back first things first friend and colleague. Nba champ antoine walker. With us now towanda morning helpless. Run the fast break here. We go paul. George had a big fourth quarter for the clippers. Last night the lou pull them for the last three minutes and the nets went on to win tai lue blaming it on a minute. Restriction is pg makes his way back from injury but come on. Let him finish it out last night. Yeah i'm surprised and the reason why you know as a player as a few games on the schedule that you circle that you wanna be a part of and this is one of those things i mean. Paul georgia's probably looking forward to playing against the brooklyn nets and then he gets going In the fourth quarter and brings them back and then you get snatched with two minutes fifty seconds. That's last three minutes a game. That's my thing is this. And i don't know if team who had a discussion with paul george. We listened to the afc at the game presser. It didn't seem like they were on the same page. And we all know how georgia's fast and obviously the situation with doc rivers about some miscommunication between the two guys. You don't wanna start your superstar guys guys. You're paying forty million dollars to one plan. Starting games. I'll take three minutes with really hurt himself. I can't take to t lose out on this You gotta go with the plan. This situation in a highly competitive game and especially if i got going on. I don't think three minutes is going to hurt me either way. So t lou made a bad decision on this season. Early may not leave your on but certain players circle certain games and they wanna they want to show up in those games. Come on thai lue. Are you kidding me. What's going on in pro sports. All this data. All this analytics is getting out of control. I embrace it. I do believe it's needed. What come on you know. Low management is cool. I'm actually a fan of it. But like you said walk to circle and when you talk about low management is either. You're planning. You're not when you get into crunch time as a player if a coast dudas. Just walk up to the scores table. Check yourself in nick. I think there's an ice cream cone cone. I know you're watching. I promise you walk. i did it. I walked to the scores table. I said i'm going in. I'm born and right. I was like third quarter. We're down by like twenty. And i just checked myself nick about but this was terrible. By and that right there was the start of brandon marshall being part of the problem not part of the solution. Listen this is not only tight lou. Tyler was as bad as paul. George was this on the clippers medical staff and i actually think this is a huge store and we should. We're going to talk beyond this later. I should have mentioned this before the show because guys. This isn't about modern science. this is about pseudoscience. And it's a pseudoscience that has not improved in thirty five years. How i know. Let's go back to the summer when we were watching at the beginning of quarantine almost a full year ago last dance. Remember episode one of the last dance. What happened michael jordan. Brushoff broken foot wants to go back into a game with a minute left but the bulls trainers were like nope. He's played a lot of eighteen minutes. One minute more photo falloff aunt nuit thirty years later. We're watching the clippers. It's like thirty three minutes. That's that's on thirty four minutes. He'll never be the same. I am all better than anybody right. I agree brandon. I agree and paul. George wanted to play and tyler wanted to play. And they weren't allowed this. They said we're listening to the doctors. But the doctors are guessing. Marable it's okay. That's brandon wants him to go road but that's separate it's nonsense you can't always leave it up to the player all right onto new orleans now. Pelicans were down. Twenty four came all the way back to beat the celtics in overtime zion. Just bullying his way. I mean if you watch this game. He bullied his way to twenty eight. To ten and brandon was last night. more about zion's dominance or whatever is going on with the boston celtics right now. All zay on i mean. Look this kid is. He went to high school Spartanburg day school k. that's in spartanburg south carolina. He didn't play anybody nick. He didn't play anybody and then he went on to do where he was one. And done. what did we see there. They let them have the ball in his hand. You turn all his allies go to youtube and are you going to see zion with the ball in his hands and making things happen. It don't all over people swat swat in their shots. You didn't see. We haven't seen yet with the pelicans they have finally released this guy. They finally let this guy go loose so when you think about who. Is this tyreek hill in shaquille o'neal type body. That's who he is. We don't know how good this is going to be. pay attention. air has started now. Okay so few things. One is chris. Rashard was supposed to be here for one segment today but because he has been so disrespectful to zion spot on the pyramid he begged out of it so we get more antoine walker. So that's an america there's two stories zion's last seven games. He's averaging thirty points on an absurd sixty seven percent shooting. his free throw. Shooting is now passable. He doesn't shoot three. He does it all at the rim and no one can stop it. He came into the league as the top twenty five player and he's only rising on that. That's one side of the ledger The other side of the ledger is this. Antoine walker celtics state. They have a bad roster kimmel walkers and they summit they really miss gordon hayward evidently jeff teague has been a nonfactor. Jaylen brown's been awesome. Jason tatum has been really good. Kovic knocked him out a bit but they've got two guys two guys you can rely on and the rest of the team stinks. They blew a twenty four point lead last night. Antoine and the celtics should be great concern. Well i'm gonna take a different approach. The you guys took it's not it wasn't about zion. Last night it was about the celtics. An account show sums up the celtics season in a nutshell right now. Fifteen fifteen like you said they do have to all-stars brown and tatum both make the all star team. Those who guys should be kemba walker is really hurt He has a came out and said i know he's spiked to it. But that needs never been the same. His numbers reflect that he's not playing the same level that we used to say walker play. F- take a bath shot last night when he wasn't not having a great nice twelve from the three point line and then they're hurt. I know you don't want to talk about it. In a lot of people habits talked about it but that missing their soap. And that's marcus smart. Marcus so it's hard for me to make a judgment on. I still bleeding tough team in east when they get marcus smart back. They'll be a lot more competitive a little bit to blame. Danny aines and not strictly to the roster depth things not very good. They have a very good start lineup so this is last night. Just kinda showed everything of the celtics and twenty four point Tobacco that they hope for his boston. Celtics onto lebron now. The king was asked about missing co star. Anthony davis said. It's time for me to adjust back to you. The lakers asking for too much at lebron with sideline now. This is the time that the lakers just fast to make a decision and organization. You know you're not gonna have a d. bag for lao probably four six weeks which is engine. You gotta be really careful with it and you gotta decide whether or not what's more important right. Are you holding your own. Use the second second seed in the western conference. How important can you do it at the spot. Can you fistfight. I would not wear the ron james out. I know lebron you know he's gonna try to do everything in his power. Keep winning but if you happen to follow bit lebron's healthy you still have a legitimate chance to win the nba title. But if you wear them out right now during this season trying to keep this magical record and you're going to have problems. So lebron james gonna have sit down with the brian. Figure this out you don't want to get him on a minute restriction. But you're going to have to have a fresh lebron because he's gonna take a while to get back to this shelf having a not so great year he s going to get back in basketball shape so they got to make a difference when they wanna do. He's having a terrible year. And i said that correctly horrible. Look this is exactly what the brown has to do like you know there. There's no other option and the biggest thing here and i'll be quick nick. They're finally realizing that they're not deep like we thought they were deep. Ad goes down and it's ruder. Goes down and now you have. Nobody saw this team really isn't good without a ad. This is devastating for the lakers. Nick or so. I think that's overstating it. And i listen your without your second and third best scores and you end up losing the game that you look miss lose on a last second shot. It happens last-second miss by peluso on lebron lebron's last five games shooting fourteen percent from three and this is how lebron's whole career goes. You'll have a month where he shoots. Forty percent and this month is shooting. Twenty five percent right now. Threes not falling. So that's why all of a sudden he looks semi inefficient the last few games but i. You don't have to worry about wearing lebron out. But i want to run something by. Can we put everyone on the screen real quick. Because i think i ever really good idea here because the lakers wanna keep playing abroad. They don't want him to miss time. Lebron has said he doesn't think the all star game should be played. Lebron is an old star captain. Kevin durant is an all-star captain. He's out with a hamstring injury. I think we'll brian and kevin durant should not only pick teams. I think they should coach. The teams like seriously coached the teams. They don't play in the game. He's worth man just give rather than him opt out. Katie can get more time to rest during we'll get some actual rest and anton. How competitive why feel like the game would be more competitive coaching and doing adjustments and sets that if they were actually place. That's my recommendation louis. But they got a coach. I think would want to see him. You gotta play. Let's get right. And i put this last game. Lebron katie want that president. Who's going to be in. The game is the move. Don't do lou did. Let's go back to last night. The brooklyn nets are baby. Nba's hottest team right now. We will discuss what i am. Not everyone lucky enough to be invited. Onto brandon's i am athlete. Podcast you will work. Take a listen man. Can here at the service the here all day all right now. Hey now you say you need and they send out a big. You can't. I mean given all your tiles forcing i. We're talking joel. Embiid don't look now. Here's facing does three little letters with three big impactful m they were talking. They worry train. God unbelievable anyway. Trying to manage a mini vac is ridiculous. Now offer good. It's all good at all even itself out for twenty eight twenty few envied overtaken lebron james. Mvp favorite well. Let me start off with saying that. He's been mvp season. He's not overtake need. They got tickets his award to lose and venus had a monster year. You'd think about the thirty nine eleven fifty three the field eighty thousand the free throw line and in a surprise and forty percent from the three mop problem when eating only thing i'm worried about that can really hurt him. How many games are you gonna play. He's already six. You start missing. Fifteen sixteen games in a shortened season. Dentist lebron's award because we lebron james is gonna play every game so right now and be just has to stay healthy. Continue performing at the level that and he'll be. Ups lead unless team does a drastic loser streak. Which i don't think so. I think there'll be a top three team in the east. He's plants horrific and i says whoa to win. I think if he doesn't he doesn't get hurt and mississippi -nificant amount of time will be the mvp this year. Who put your seat belt on. Look joel and again is not only the mvp. But he's the best player on the planet. That's what he is right now. This do figured it out. He's ungovernable yes. Nick you pay attention man. What are you watching this. This do figure it out. This new is forty percent from three twenty. You just gave the statistics okay. Fifty four from the field fifty three from rate. That's kevin durant career high. Any seven foot tall everything he has handle. He has a pool upshot. This is a larger one and shaquille o'neal wrapped up in one. That's what we're seeing here guys. And i'll be the first to go out there on land on a limb on these little tiny little branches in say that this is not only the mvp but he's the best player on the planet. Who else is out there that can can do with. This dude is right now okay. So is so is very very interesting. Parlor trick here which is almost tried to box me in to my own tape so i'm going to take back few months ago before the year. Nba finals pick lakers sixers before the year nba mvp. Pick was luca with the caveat. Being if the mavs aren't good enough it would be joel. Beat up to this point in this. They say that on a per game basis on a per game basis. Mvp would be the mvp but he has missed twenty percent of the season. Because of that. I think lebron has a slight edge. But it's lebron embiid or embiid and lebron and then a massive gap steph team's not good enough. Lucas team is bad. Drank keeps missing time. Hardin quit on a team. Kyrie took a sabbatical. It's it's lebron and then beater and beedon lebron and the biggest edge. Lebron has is that embeds miss these six games but brand you just. Didn't you made a mistake that a lot of people have made. That mistake is believing best player on the planet is something that is attainable during the regular season. It's not that is how we got to. You know who. The best player in basketball is steph curry. That's how we got to know the best player in the nba. Is that was never. Oh it was a real thing. That was a real real. Want your part three trilogy. You know the is joel embiid. He has here come june. It's like now you're trying to coordinate. Its libra 'cause it's been lebron every year for the last fourteen. So i love you. But they got pass the moon most. He's have the best in the laker lewis. Dallas they're not winning. Ad terrible here. We thought it was put potentially be a then. We talked about luca a these terrible year. Luca their team's winning so look last year in the bubble we were talking about this guy not being a great leader or at least i. Was this do head a little under three months off. Walk how does a guy make such huge strides and such little time like think about what this do. What where he was last year. We're talking about developing the three. We're talking about developing may rains. We're talking about a complete game. How do you only have two to three months off. And then you this this nudist phenomenon in the last thing. I want you to talk about. Is this dude isn't even talk in. He was a big kid. He's a grown man so explain that to us. Well let me let me be. Apply for doc rivers. And he's one of the greatest office of minded coaches a out. There is great players and position where they can flourish offensively. We all know value shooting but with rivers i out my best field goal percentage because he knew how to get me in certain spots could be effective and i think this is a doc rivers effect and why we see embiid's numbers went up dramatically and he's playing much better basketball is because he's making all mechanical and he's being efficient these. Are you know to guard type numbers we think about fifty three field from the three point line and eighty five on the free throw line. These are these are ungodly numbers for center is putting up big time but i do disagree with you as the best plan. He's the best big man in the league but he's not. The best plan is lebron james. We're gonna continue to continue this. It lebron james maintains a top three seed in the west. What ab out look at. Look at me. I've been right. Things are being. Oh no did. I have nothing to say. I have nothing to say. Even if he's as healthy antoine's right he's already been out a handful of games so we'll wait and see switch gears we head to dallas cool really decks final season as a cowboy. We discussed that next antoine walker. Thank you see how that one goes. we welcome back greg jennings to the conversation because we wanna play little drawn a blank. So what do you do after you when a seven super bowl i mean. Don't ask tom brady. He literally has no idea tweeted yesterday. So what am i supposed to do for the next five months brandon dahmer. He's offseason should be spent blank. Tom this playing with us. This is a rhetorical question. That's the answer here. Tom brady needs to continue to do what he's always done. The tb twelve months methods. a little. Bit of fun and a whole lot of work. greg. I don't know if you follow tb twelve. But even when he goes on vacation he takes. How many takes his shoulder pad. He takes his his guy. Mr greg or whatever his name is and they're always working look at this dude and kobo. He's uncool. he's at combo. He's in kabul what his wife and kids and still training. This is phenomenal. Tom brady continue to do what. You've always done buddy brandon. You mentioned all those things brings. You forgot the needle to deflate the ball. All right listen. They're always followed by another word. For example you only ever hear the word ensuing. If you're going to then say ensuing kickoff or ensuing possession. You never say like an only ensuing day so tom. Brady's offseason should be spent contemplating because what's the word. You always hear following contemplating retirement retirement. Done enough you're famous. Seven y retire so just listen. I'm not. I never tell someone retire guy. They want to. But i just want to tom. Do you really want to so beat. Contemplative and be contemplating. Wait for your home snow. No best form greg. Greg iwa fast in his family. It sounds like you're trying to get mahomes another -nother ring but what he should continue doing. Is trolling all the dollars on social media. That's what tom brady has been doing that ever since one every since we knew he was going to win. He's been trolling every doubter. That has doubted him in question. The decision not only to go to tampa bay but couldn't get it done and was he watched. That's what he needs to continue doing. I enjoy let's move onto philadelphia now. Carson wentz is out so doesn't that mean jalen hurts his in house. Eagles reportedly thinking about drafting a quarterback with the six pick because a quarterback battle is clearly in vogue with this eagles team. So brennan a qb. Competition should have jalen hurts feeling blank. Feel juice jenner. Absolutely juice. I mean a true competitor. A real competitor loves competition. You're not competing against the guys on your team. You're competing against yourself. You're trying to be the best burgess yourself and you're trying to be the best ever do it if you don't have that attitude that you're not a true competitor. He's been here before greg. He's been here before nick. Think about it in alabama. He was going against tour. He handled it perfectly. What pool is this to magical. So he's built for this nick. I think it's going to bother him. He should be feeling a little confused. As i think all eagles fans are. The eagles are very fortunate. That texans exists. Because the texans had been such a clown car. We haven't talked about philly over the last few months as much as we showed up. Whatever them in week seventeen. It's like nope they're picking carson wins over. Doug peterson nope. Actually they're picking. Neither jalen hurts. Nope they might take a guy. Sixth overall that w- what what's the plan like. Does anybody know the plan. And by the way does anybody think. What philly needs is more quarterbacks as opposed to more literally everything else on the roster so i'm confused. I imagine jalen is confused as well breath. I'm more leaning towards you granted. I think he should feel confident. He's been here before. Not only with alabama but even with this team he. He understands the guys in the locker room they believe in him. They have his competence of imboden of leadership. Like he's done this. He has an advantage in so moving forward regardless of where they bring in does be confident in who you are. You can only control what you can control. That's jalen approach to pittsburgh now. Big bend nuture. Not guaranteed with the steelers report. Says ben could actually be an option for washington football team if pittsburgh decides to move on brandon. Man's best option next season is blank juicy. One look the writings on the wall. The answer is a pay cut or right on tv with us. We're all other old retired guys. That used to play sports talking about what we used to do. Big ben look man kevin colbert. The general managers His his his comments are telling he's telling you he's like look at big. Ben isn't willing. You take significant pay cut. Then we're going to move on. That's pretty much what he said. So big ben take the bay cut so you can get one more year or come on tv with us. We can talk about the good old. Remember that great jay glazer quote bins idea off season workouts or yoga around golf and some beer. I think is best. Option is exactly that without the yoga. What do you need the yoga at your retire golfing badge the answer. Listen been you. don't wanna play for pay cut. You don't wanna go play in washington you've earned it man. You made a quarter of a billion. You gotta come home rings yet. A bad game go play thirty six day. Drink eighteen a day or not a day but however you want to write lots and enjoy yourself golden beer. You've earned it been. It's the. I'm not scared of been. Don't say i'm all of my own scared of been i want. What's best for these guys in their older age. Golfing beer greg greg. Greg crushed big. Ben mommy nicer greg. I know man. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tell him to retired but A soon tie or suit. Turtles a jacket in blazer and turtleneck. Good man he got a lot of stories which you got a lot of insight we can hear the fans would love to know even more what was going on in pittsburgh. Let us let us know those stories on this side. Feel like big ben's to dallas. We go deck. The cowboy still trying to work a long term deal. The only guy. I've been saying that line for four years cowboys drew pearson chimed in saying if the cowboys franchise tag dak second time. Dak anc gonna here. That i will. Second that so brandon dak plane on the franchise tag again would be blank. Geneticists answer is bad business and let me try something here. I'm going to be quick nick. If you don't get the deal stay home and chill. That's all i got. Stay home in two little wordplay. Hold out. I'm going to say the worst case scenario. And it's worse case scenario. I would argue for because he's coming off a traumatic injury and not have the long term. Security of contract would be the worst case scenario the worst case scenario for dallas. Because i agree with drew pearson. That if he plays another year under the franchise tag he. Then we'll be a true free agent and someone else will give him the money. Dallas has been hesitant to and most importantly worst case scenario for us. Because if i have to go through another six months of dax contract. I'm going to content to bleat retirement. I can't answer that guy's really fascinating storylines dak prescott contract has been. It's like it's like your weight on a new pope. What color's the smoke. What is enough. So worst case. Scenario everyone including the viewers. So please please. I implore you deal done. That's great nick. That's great this is this is disappointing is disappointing for so many reasons on so many levels because you look at carson wentz with the eagles he gets what he wants he gets saudi. He gets to the best position in situation for him possibly back the dallas cowboys have been super hypocritical when it comes to players signing contracts. We always here. Just just do everything the right way. And you'll get you'll get rewarded. Dacca's done everything that they asked him to do and beyond and he still has gotten rewarded. He got hurt and he's coming back he still wants to be apart. Just pay that man. This is disappointing writings on the law if they hadn't been him. They're reluctant to pay him. Eight just does not look like they're going to pay onto cam newton. Now he joined brandon grew on the. Im athlete podcast. That'll be released later today. Check out this clip from the episode. My pride wouldn't even allow me to do that. Listen bro there's not thirty. Two god better than me put like that so you ask you talk rose thirty two. I can be a fly on that wall camps common. Sign your i. M athletes podcast. We're blank facts. And then i had to take a page from your your book. I knew i know you won a couple emmy's and look ahead to get messy. You gotta ask the tough questions. And i love how. He responded and specs. He's he's right. You know what i mean. Is he better than big ben. We talked about big. Ben retired as he better than a mitch. Trubisky in chicago. There's a few teams out. They don't have a quarterback houston texas. Stop trying to hold the shawn watson hostage maybe a guy in cam. Newton go get the washington the washington washington football team. Excuse me you have a quarterback the giants do you have a quarterback and there's a couple of other teams out there to detroit lions and then also you could say the new orleans saints who i don't think will actually make a move like that because i truly believe they may go over. Go try to go get teddy bridgewater. So yeah facts okay. So couple of things. Can we put brandon on the screen with me before. I give my answer because i had heard this audio but i hadn't seen this video and brandon. I gotta tell you. I'm a little. You never gaze into my eyes while i'm talking the way you were contemplated. What's her just just adding to get my three hours a day. Once gotten that look cams obviously much better looking than me but my maybe just 'cause we're virtually any when we're together like sports okay. i'm gonna go ahead and say when we're in studio together brandon. I'm going to be looking for that. Look as soon as i started. Diatribe about your net my answer though his misguided because what's best for cam isn't going to some crummy team way because they don't have a quarterback and being on national television once a year what's best for cam is to get a super bowl ring score touchdowns be part of winning culture cam. The chiefs are inviting in. We need a goal line quarterback. We need a fourth and inches guy. Patrick mahomes has gotten dinged up over the years. We were on a redemption toward just like you after what happened to kansas city. Learn some tricks. For andy reid and bonus take you can go with eric. Be enemy wherever he goes next year. You millions of his own team. Hey anything is possible. Had his moments come to kansas city. Score some touchdowns eat some barbecue and then go on with the enemy and be as quarterback somewhere. So it's a little misguided. Greg that's my concern. I get business. It's so frustrating. This is no. It's all good. This is debatable. Though brandon i hear you man and i know i know we can list some quarterbacks in some situations that would suit camp but i think it's not just about what cam has done previously because he's thirty one you'll be thirty two when the season starts and teams are looking for youth if you're going if you haven't established herself of what have you done for me lately. Or what have you shown. On his past passing touchdown. Last passing yards last touchdown interception ratio last. Like these are real with artist. I give artist. Lena we are. We are on the line. I won't let my pride. Let me let me get the numbers up man twice you. Stop that train dogs folks. Hey are the next the hottest team in the nba we discussed next but first sprint and and towns to work at house of athletes fellows appreciate man. You service here all day all right now that you know you need another club underneath. You can't be all given tiles on saturday former. Two time. Super middleweight world champion anthony. The dog durell returns and will face off against the rising. Chiron shutdown davis. Don't miss the action. Durell verse davis saturday on fox and fox sports ask stores historic morning sponsored by ram trucks built to serve. Gotta talk little nets. Gotta talk a little clippers. The two faced off brandon would say this could be a title game preview. Nick would say brandon could be losing his mind nets without katie again matter because of james harden because of kyrie irving. Because it's just a little bit of defense. It was all too much for the clippers nets. Go on to win that six zero for them. Nick six you gotta start believing this brooklyn nets teen their title. Chances playing great right now. Okay one of those things you said is true one. I don't like your arm rain. Great right now that you know what i i. I'm gonna try to get us. These great. it is not true. I have to believe in them as title contenders. So i'm going to try to use an analogy here. And i'm not gonna blame. Latin listened last. Night is a great win. Forget the fact. That involved paul george sitting inexplicably deondraye jordan tipping in a ball accidentally and the worst offensive foul called a year. Forget all that. it's a great win. you don't have. Katie you beat the clippers. No asterisks there. But i'm gonna try to use analogy brandon. Let's say. I brought bought a brand new sports car and i said brandon. I'm going to drive this thing cross country and you will again nick. I don't know how that's gonna deal on rocky roads in through the mountains. And i'm like well i'm gonna prove you wrong. And i drive from los angeles to san francisco up the pacific coast of the country. And i'm like it was awesome. Sonny's son son was out win was in. My hair is beautiful. And you're like okay nick. That's great but you still gotta drive cross the rocky mountains like well. This ten hour drive was amazing. How hard can that be. And so what nets. Go out a winning streak against opponents with no big men to speak of win their their path through the rocky mountains is joel. Embiid yon kumho. And then if they get their anthony. Davis me thinks that this sample might not be enough to convince me so they look great. Yutian feel awesome. The defense was better but those rocky mountains are coming and they don't have an answer for that and they haven't faced anything like that during this winning streak my mic. Just admit it. I mean we still have so many game at forty something games left in the season right now just come onto this side just admit that the nets are the favourite. Not only in the east but to win the whole thing. Just come on over. Last night was the preview of this year's nba finals. We talked about it before two year. I said the nets. We'll come out the east and also the clippers out the west because of thai lue because of what they were able to do this offseason galvanized that locker room and correct those mistakes from a leadership standpoint and also management standpoint. So so nick. You've just got to respect this team. Kyrie irving is phenomenal. he's still having a statistical Mvp type gear. He's playing lights out. There finally found a roles in that guy. James harden just passing. The ball is that he's the point guard. He's making the biggest sacrifice he spend more time with the ball. He's got more touches this year than ever. But he's he's taking less shots like that is a big deal. Nobody's really talking about that. How he is sacrificing. He should be considered. This team's mvp no k. d. no car or van. It should be this guy he is. He is the juice of this team as he goes. This team's goes and we need to talk about him more so this is the preview of this year's nba final. And it's time for you to come on his side buddy. Okay well. i'm not going to decide side if it is the nba final. I think the nets can beat the clippers because the clippers don't have that interior presents to punish the nets biggest weakness. And i ain't the hardened point two great one because if you look at that would that shows you is. He's touching the ball more but has the ball in his hands the same amount of time so it means he's not dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble the whole time. He's kicking it out so that that's a very telling. Graphic hardens been great and. I do think they can beat the clippers. But i don't think they would have to go through the three best bigs in basketball in order. Okay davis yeah are let me answer it because because you keep saying that okay. Jaanus their pretenders. They showed us who they were in the bubble nick. This team can't get it done when when middleton is our number two you have no chance now. He's a terrific player and he's playing out last night he hit thirty points. But you can't win it with middleton as your number two and zoll embi phenomenal. I just say earlier that this do is not only the mvp but he is the greatest player on the planet right now when you look at the film turn it on. You'll see it but he doesn't have a guy that can consistently score twenty five thirty points when we come when it comes to the playoff time. And that's what you're going to need so i'm not concerned about the east nick. Can i jump in here. Guys a question about the game last night title polls. Paul george is about three minutes left to mitch. Fifty seconds left in the game. George is having a great fourth quarters clearly on a roll see lou obviously pulling mazzy said afterwards on a minute restriction. Pg working his way back when that toe injury. I say let him finish it out. And he's playing this way but nick. Did this surprise you that then he did this. I don't know if it surprised me but it did infuriate me. Because i don't mind listening to science in back. I think we'd be far better off if we all listened science more and all aspects of life. But this isn't science. This is pseudoscience and brain moves pseudoscience. That has not improved in thirty five years. We saw in the last dance documentary. Six michael jordan wanted to come back in a and the doctor has like no. He's played eighteen minutes not a minute. More they're guessing. There is no science. Says paul george can be playing look at the time on the clock. He at that three with game but with three minutes left in the game. You're out out to go. It makes no sense brandon so like they're just guessing on this stuff he wanted to play. The coach wanted to play him. It's very very frustrating. Things like this. So how big of a deal is this. How big is big of a deal is this. Is it bigger than just this. One thing yeah. I think they're guessing on these minutes restrictions. I think that it's good to say you can't play forty like you. We want to keep you in the teens. But the idea brandon that you could if you went into a football game. And you're like you forty snaps. It does that really mean like snapping online to hit him basketball. No it happened to me. A high school lake. How high school. I know coach cone watching. He tried to take out the game. I went to the scoreboard and the scores table. And try to take myself in. That's what should have happened last night. Did you see steve bomber. We'll get the bomber last night. Let's see the film. These guys wanted to win. So how does the medical staff override the owner jenna. Louis guy balmer needs to be on a minute fall. Restrictions wonder income something between coach player. Moving forward all right. That's good to do her us. We're back here tomorrow morning. I have a great rest of the day. Everyone starts right now. I can't walk anymore by.

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Hour 2: Brandon Marshall

First Take

48:58 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Brandon Marshall

"I'm not saying that I don't WanNa do more for college athletes but I'm saying if we start with with giving with letting them be paid for things it changes. Here's the dynamic of college sports in College football's what particular what we're talking about but I do feel like there could be a committee set up where you could give stipends to kids to be able to go get them a new pair of shoes to be able to get them to go out to restaurants and make the lifestyle just a little bit easier especially kids from and low income backgrounds where they can succeed in college just a little bit easier but if we start to pay him everything changes everything changes Max everything everything everything changes. It's not the same game anymore all right. That was our Guy Tim Tebow on Fridays. I take discussing the new California pay for play act that may be signed into law Stephen. I understand you wanted to follow up on some of the backlash that Tim specifically receiving very disgusted by it. Let me be very clear. I don't agree with everything that Tim Tibo said. Tim tebow is basically raving about amateurism. I would make the argument that amateurism doesn't exist really in college football and college basketball is just too much money that's being made but what I totally respect and appreciate the perspective which he came from. This is a guy that basically loves amateurism and doesn't want the sport honest by people getting paid because obviously it invites some potentially shady individuals into the mix of college football it takes away in his eyes amateurism amateurism the authentic element that comes along with amateurism the support of parents and family members and schools school institutions all does different things. My thing is this I totally understand particularly people in the minority community especially if you come from an impoverished or depraved background ramp where you would take issue to what he saying because you're saying what was applicable to him is an applicable to somebody else but to castigate this man in excoriated him in that fashion to me was utterly ridiculous Tim Tibor just want to make this point Max. Tim Tebow was not some rich privileged dude I mean he was the missionaries for crying out loud to go ahead and look at his background. He doesn't come from some privileged background. That's number one number two more importantly and this is the part that I wanted to get. Two people better get used to this. I don't know why Y'all haven't been convinced this shit. This show is the real deal we mean what we say and we say what we mean. That's true but we invite different and evolved opinions. I don't want Tim T. Bo or anybody on this show who is going to Mira what I think. I want to hear different perspectives. I want to hear a different tangle on things I applauded effect. Although I totally agree I quoted the factor. Tim Tebow had a perspective that I just didn't think about what you mean passed up money when you the number one Jersey and you never got a dot and you didn't care I would have cared that doesn't make it a crime and when you watch this show understand in that Tim Tebow Max Kellerman Will Cain Ryan Clark David. I don't give a Damn Jeff Saturday. You know Dan Lonski the list goes goes on and on. I don't want anybody on this show. That's going to agree and March in lockstep with what we think. Call Tim Tim Timbo the names that you call them and attacking him on on on social media waited they did over this week. Folk should be ashamed of their damn stuff. That's all I wanted to say. The nature of debate about college football in particular college sports and paying athletes comes down to this. I love this sport because of the amateurism because they're not getting paid. That's part of why I like it because of school spirit and everything else the other side says yes book because you like it. Once you point the camera at it you become a consumer wants. You sell commercial time. Everyone's getting paid except for the athletes and I'm sorry sorry we can't have that so it is the paradoxically as soon as you try to sell people what they want and give them the product with what they want it undermines itself because essentially become professional for everyone involved except the athlete. That's the nature of the debate what's underneath it and now there are levels to it because because you can talk about the racial components adds to it and who is not okay all Tim Tibo was doing was expressing one side of that view I really I love what we have and I don't WanNa see go and in fact I followed him by saying yes but tim if it's illegal it just can't be we're going to have you the day so what is Tim Tebow really the victim of here in the Social Media Age. He's a so this is a social media hit hit job on him in the sense that and by the way it's the nature of the business we know people who run our social media understand people will respond to this one way or another. They'll feel something I think that about based on what he said so it gets clipped and it gets disseminated. The nature of social media particularly twitter is to get clicks EXC based on indignation. Here is a point of view that many of you may feel indignant about it. Click on it so you can show your indignant indignation in this twitter your mom and that's what happened you only saw one side of it to be only part of Tim's argument. You did not see our responses to it. You did not see it in the context of an overall discussion in which different sides of the issue which has been argued for for decades now were expressed and so even the nature of the way it's disseminated people who disagree already know. They're basically told that sets of advertised by the clip itself. I'm going to be indignant about it. They order have the signal they click on it and they get what they came for. The little shot of indignation year you can look at it that way but let's take a step further. We're also culpable to some degree for example Apple. I love the folks here. I take do a fabulous job but I don't think we did Tim Tebow any favors because as extensive as he was in his dialogue that should have I've been placed on social media not a thirty second minute clip of what he had to say and you can relate to this because listen if I see another time where Max Kellerman is calling all and Tom Brady Obama. How many times have you said excuse me I was wrong? I shouldn't have used said that the next segment but somehow some way you know folks included US put on social media you said Radio and I have to come on air and come to your defense. Wait wait a minute minute. He immediately corrected that just said yes. He's GonNa fall off a cliff. Nickle kids watching etcetera etcetera etcetera and it's talk against so we don't need to do that. We need to be better. We need to be responsible but more importantly the reason why I feel the need to speak up for Tim. tebow is because Tim Tebow he. Tim Tebow shows up once a week. Tim Tebow shows up on a Friday for eight minutes and again on College Game Day. You've got Tom to be addressing something like that. That's not the platform platform for it. This is the platform for and I pride myself on being fair Taffy body mechanic and his lady. They're not GONNA be fed Antonio Brown Gobi Fair to a litany of athletes that I could be there to I'll be damned if I'm not going to be fair to Tim Tebow we did them no favours in that regard and a lot of people out there who disagree agree with him. I'm saying listen to his whole point and if you disagree with that say you disagree with him as opposed to sit up there at lambasting him in such a fashion where you're attacking hacking his character which should not attempt to take it a step further for people who really righteously indignant about it step further I agree with the people people who say these athletes should be paid for you so the NCAA is hypocritical how much longer it'll existing debt for you however if the twitter mob believes that the other side of the argument should not even be presented it should be censored so that people can't even here the argument. That's not how absurd that's not how we roll Tim such an informed voice like he said in the clip on on the ground and Kobe at hand. We also know Tim's character. We do know that Tim has a great heart. Nobody can deny that and I I don't agree with the sentiment but nobody but he can character agree with that. Tim's basic arguments is to appeal to your better nature. Hey guys I know it's the here's the big picture and tries to uplift and be positive about it. Sometimes people feel that people with that kind of mentality have a naive view of the world. Whatever we're maybe even that's done from a position of privilege and people can argue that but to say that no one is allowed to have that and we jail round of talk? He's my friend is actually not a joke. He is because he's a good man and he doesn't deserve what people did to him over the weekend particularly really people from minority communities who tried to question his authenticity in his character because his opinion differs from our and his opinion differs from mine nine I agree with most folks out there in terms of what we believe in terms of college athletes needed to be paid to some degree and by the way he did support them being supported in such a way just not some salaried employees but it's not like he did say they deserve to be supported. The point is you don't attack the man like that if you listen to what he had and I also want to give him props ops he stood by the courage of his convictions and he was authentic and his opinion which he knew probably wouldn't be popular especially on a show like I take hey there. I'm only care of and you're listening the first take podcast. Let me ask you. This is anything better than watching football. 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Welcome back to I take where you live from above the Heineken River deck at Pier Seventeen Antonio Brown made his much anticipated debut with the Patriots Sunday less than a week nick after sexual assault allegations were brought in a civil suit against the former steelers raiders receiver Brown's immediate future remains uncertain as the NFL begins their investigation in but he certainly made an impact in his first game with Tom Brady Browne had four catches and a touchdown in the forty-three blow out of the dolphins he led the team with eight targets Bill Belichick and Brady spoke about ABC day after the game seemed to just want to get into we run the offense try to throw the ball guides open but haven't changed that in twenty years wow just trying to find guy and he was snapping awesome routes and did a great job shop so it was good to find him. Everyone contributed defense played great as they've been doing so it was a good win anytime you win on the road and division. It's good especially here because it's been over the years but you know I look who's here Brandon Marshal Art. I like the same thank you appreciate it. Thank you man you start off with compliments on his and I think that's Eh warrants. It went lawrence fashion game because I wanna see Molly net you. bums ask you this and I feel funny asking this question how important was ABC performance on Sunday considering forty three to nothing start last because you're the arbiter research. The reality is real. Quick man didn't mean a damn thing to me because dolphins legitimate argument could be made that disempowering college teams that can beat the dolphins oftentimes this might be the worst football team in the NFL either ever they are atrocious and it's hard for me to say that Chris Griggs general manager Brian Floor African American general manager head coach see that too often in the national football league we recognize that they they build and we got that because they made some good moves in terms of first round picks quiet but this is one of the most atrocious teams that I've ever seen combined that with the fact that happened. I'm look like they don't you want to be there. It's one thing you know laid on the season. y'All and it's a log and you put your body to a lot and ah season this. Is this not December November when you already on the season. Is it like Damn I don't WanNa be by the way they just a few miles from south beach and don't want to do miles beach in a state with no state yeah. That's right that's right. This is my dad the most atrocious football team that I've ever seen gene and you've got to receiver that's coming to play for the rainy defending Super Bowl champion against you. Please go ahead. I'll tell you why it was really important. In fact act first of all I gotta say something. Just defend the players a little bit because I agree with you. It might be the worst team I've ever seen in the NFL certainly on a short list they were put in a position to lose before the season season began. Okay this starts in the front office where they would. They give flows like nothing to work with. I didn't call the players grow team. I understand what I'm saying like so any play every. NFL team hasn't talent including the dolphins but when you're a talented player in the locker room without a lot of talent. We're you know you're being put in a position to lose. I can understand where this his team just quits on the season but the quitting started in the front office okay that's. That's I just WanNa get that out of the way. The reason it's really important is not obviously to beat the dolphins because you look at the AFC and you have rivals out there Stephen. L leave your team right now later but I'll just talk about the chiefs for instance when Kareem Hunt gets back. You're the Guy Patrick mahomes doing things. No quarterback has ever done. Let me repeat that no one has ever bird played on the level so far to start a career that Patrick mahomes has and he has a great coach and everywhere you look offensive. Weapons wants to team offer start yesterday first half yesterday okay and then what happened there. My point is my point is that the Patriots treats even in the eighteen in season lost super bowl. When you look at the big picture what he does is he takes them from WHO's the favorites the chiefs score the Patriots? It's to the Patriots are clearly favorites if a BS on the team but how can we say that when it's never been about one player the Patriots Program Graham has never been about one player. Let me take that back. It's been about Tom Brady but he'd never made it about. Tom Brady K. to me. What's interesting is hearing belichick and Tom in oppressor after say you know what we're just going through our normal routine through to open man hell no you did what you did was uses the preseason game to get a be caught up because when you look at a receiver quarterback combination for efficiency the reason why Mike t down the New Orleans is one of the best and he's never talked about? He's underrated as because efficiency when drew brees throw to him they're operating at around eighty five ninety percent efficiency rate yesterday a B and Tom where would fifty four to eight look at the mishaps that misfires. That's what you need to look at right. Yes that's. ABC's great but talent only takes you so far about chemistry so it's chemistry on fill in chemistry off when when I'm excited to pay attention to is this an interesting what is he going to do with social media because what is what is it about New England's about not putting out bulletin board material review right so I want to see if he can get in line off the field because if he can do that which I think he can. They'll be okay but it's GonNa take some time for them on the field to get caught up in and yesterday was a prime example and that's why Bella checks in Tom's. Tom were were bs because that was a preseason game for them. That was horrible. ooh I said Kareem Hunt gets back. Obviously I mean tyreek. Hill tyree kills hurt but the chiefs like you're right. There hasn't been about one player the best team ever had probably didn't win the Super Bowl and they had randy moss. They had an outstanding defensive weapon. If you add a B and Josh Gordon to this team which they have done it takes them. I'm from neck and neck with the cheese. Maybe guys like me think this is the chiefs here I thought they beat them in the AFC championship game before that offsite before the penalty the point is it makes them aby does is make them the favorite. That's why agree with you there feeding them to see what they can do against the dolphins. Let me share something with you. You're close right because when you look at offense and I'm a guy that's been the number one receiver and I've been a guy that really demanded the ball. I wanted to buy every single play and what I learned when I was playing for the jets this it's not about one receiver right so to your point if they can come together those three those three guys right Ataman Gordon and Brown check their egos oh so they can be tough but if they can't do that you're going to go down really created. We Watch it which New England can't get in line Anton. They're just get rid of them all right but talking about his attitude correct game. No reason why I say that is because this one of the things that we gotta pay attention into is that a is it a guy that plays outside but he's capable of being slot receiver. He's got moves into the kind of things that you uh-huh the quickness of foot agree the quickness of foot that he has. I'm talking about the quickness of foot. Just do can do slot stuff. When you talk about a guy like element he can do for those things plus Zuber but he's a customer outside the numbers when we look at Randy Moss he was strictly outside and was Kinda Guy? Yes flop PAT list go when you look at. Ab That's a different dimension and so when you look at what Tom Brady birds even though he does among going from time to time Brennan the reality. Is that what what's been talking other than what we've been talking about this no Ron Zook no one has talked about TV the last couple of weeks since ab been acquired quiet. Ab has made a living in Pittsburgh off their off scheduled plays on off schedule place. Please okay big. Ben Scrambles big. BEN GETS UP TO POCKET. AB breaks off his row fifty to sixty percent of his catches has been on the off schedule plays. This is not that often on schedule. He has to run routes. He has to be where he's supposed be if he's not he's not getting the ball Abe has dominated the game because of how has played his sacrilegious about what's coming out of your mouth. You're taught understand what he's done but we can look and see what he can do it. What I'm saying is it's not like it's like leaving your basketball your basketball your basketball right? It's taken Carmelo anti big topic right He needs to be an NBA gus but it's like taking Carmelo Anthony putting them in a triangle. That's what that is right you need you to God and God wants to dominate the ball. He needs to be the man. That's what you're doing with a receiver like that. That's the type of receiver I was. I'm back sat on one on one. The ball is coming to me well. What are you trying want to say that it would be appropriate one Mellon? It's more it's more it's hard receiver to go out there and just run at twelve and comeback into balls right there. You like that Brandon. Some offices offenses out there in programs schemes where it's like look go be a player. I get I get it but are you saying that if Abe because he's not used to doing that even if he does it. Josh Gordon's an amazing talent edelman is excellent as chemistry with Brady. Ab is not going to get the numbers. He wants to get in New England not are you saying that that will be a problem in terms of his personality one hundred percent think about it even in new early. Wait me call God. I'm the man I'm the best. I'M GONNA. I'm going to Jerry Rice so you think. Do you really think that he's GonNa be okay with just win. It's got to be the best receiver put up numbers. Here's the brain future. What about this season? I mean for one season not thinking about winning a super bowl trying to breath about this right. You're a player right. Yes Yawn. A team. Team is everything but the end of the day you have a job to do. Your job is to be the best player and if you're not if you don't live up to your capabilities your cut your on your done players. I'm going to be honest with you the greatest players they think about themselves first. That's what happens right. Tom Brady is not going out but they're just saying I'm just here you know. I don't care about throwing four touchdowns. You really believe that no. ABC wants fifteen hundred yards a year. He wants fifteen touchdowns a year he has. I told you believe that you know why because he doesn't have anything else approve now he does it by Kissing Brandon Marshall's the need tire our we'll leave it there and guess what you said. This game was a preseason one. Don't worry they got a couple more preseason game. Patriots jets next week than the Bill Johnson jets time jazz it up on maybe a ride according to our Adam schefter saints quarterback Beck drew brees is expected to undergo thumb surgery and could miss approximately six weeks maximum. Asu that's what the news should big DB maybe the favorite in the NFC cowboys no not to get to the Super Bowl because I understand the offensive play calling as much more dynamic and Dacca's responding bonding to it and all that but in the moment of truth their head coach I think has a conservative nature. That's going to backfire specially when you look at teams like the rams for example Zampa who have who although he got conservative in the Super Bowl but more dynamic and who have more experience being dynamic I I think when drew brees gets back. I think Teddy Bridgewater can keep them afloat goal three and three something like that when drew brees gets back I also liked the saints and and it really does for me. Come back. Come down to the head coach. If you look at the whole roster the cowboys are the most talented team you know all fifty took the most talented team in the NFC. They have talent everywhere like they have time to the point where the average fan the names of guys playing on the offensive line you know the everywhere you look they have named rant and they're all in their prize but when it comes down to it I don't believe in Jason Garrett the way I believe in and Sean Payton or even Sean mcvay and so I'm GonNa say they have the best record in the NFC but didn't get to the Super Bowl. I don't think they get into the super bowl either but that wasn't the question. The question is whether they should be the favorite in particular moment time in light of the fact that drew brees is going to be out but several weeks and by that I would say yes do. I believe that that means the Dallas cowboys going to super hailed no. I'll I'm not this person. I'm not giving it. I'm not giving these tablets instead. I'm not doing it. I'm just telling you I'm not dealing with welcome dear light up of a hold of a deal. I did the damn cop cowboy fans everywhere make. I'd have a quote listen there cowboy fence that makes me go not not giving it to them Green Room. I wrote down something it time to give Jerry Jones respect no hold on yes but that's not the issue why not take the point. Here's the deal drew brees coming back. I think that the saints at best are three Rian three without him assuming he comes back after six weeks. Okay you're gonNA take you go. Take time to get your parents under you. At the end of the day. I think Dallas is Roland. The Saints Saint Struggling they get to the postseason probably but they will have home field advantage. I think New Orleans Loses in Dallas. I don't think they lose New Orleans all these but I think they lose a Dallas whereas what the eagles I think the eagles could take Dallas in big deep but that does not mean that Dallas should not be the favourite considering considering the way Dacca's plan and we know what the Dallas cowboys deeper give respect where do the deep this is real. Yes it's read three first of all it is time to give Jerry Jones respect think about the move couple years Jones you mean Jerry Jones getting away. The Dow Jones is my friend Brent. Oh that's why. Are you interested in like that. That's not how does not friendship cowboys fan. Oh you need help. You need anyways back. Your Friend Run Dallas contender. Why because it's simple? It's a simple equation yeah. They have a quarterback that will eliminate the mistakes in critical situation. They have a running game and they have defense so yes. They are a contender tender. You're wrong on that. Both of you guys are wrong so you said they weren't. You said they're not just what you said and I go to the Super Bowl. Contenders can questions or they the favorites. You've written the Al Qaeda all right. Here's the other thing you have the rams. The hawks the lines in the packers. No they're not the favorites. They're not the favorites but you've got some other teams in the NFC see that it really playing amazing football. The Seattle seahawks pay attention to this team team. This team is really strong. I think the Hawks are the favorites favorites in the NFC Dallas Braden real about what you're saying like. What is it really comes down to you? Say quarterback real thing shorthand in the NFL. You WanNa know the successful the franchises quarterback coach. That's the combination you're really looking at Seattle quarterback coach. You've top-five both spots. What's wrong with Jason Gary Jason Gary You mean? Njit the Jason Garrett who they draft Ezekiel Elliott top five running back. You can't do it. He actually outperforms expectations your fourth in one midfield and you punch. I like that Jason Garrett Mex is where you're wrong. It's not about Jason Garrett anymore. It's about killing more Garrett is not getting in the way of Kelly Moore running that office Jerry Jones replaced Jan Gilead in for reason and Jerry Jones Not GonNa let Jason Garrett paying it away and by the way Jason Garrett has had his opportunities he's come up short and and now he's focused on trying to keep his job so if the owner that is Jerry Jones wants dismantled defer to kill him more. Who's doing an outstanding job at the first two weeks? Call them plays for this office offers remember they went from a ground attack areas so this is what they want to do now in Dallas and it coincides with trying to validate whether or not Dak deserves his money in there is as we all believe he deserves his money but the point is with all of that going on Jason Gareth getting in the way that because they were trying to get his new contract so keep bringing up Jason Garrett more may look like a good coach. I want to say one more thing the cowboys right now give that impression largely because of health to at in critical spots the cowboys are largely healthy. They returned the offensive line hasn't been healthy and a couple of years. Which is why two three years ago it's the best in the league and since then it's been good because there are so talented but it's been hurt right there healthy the defendant vet like everywhere you look? You have a healthy player. It's early right now. The Eagles all banged up see a new Orleans looks like they're in bad shape but timing king of health and injuries could play a big factor here. There's a beat they're going to be like this. I can see that's why you gotta take it week to week but no everything you're saying is true but I mean you could turn like that. Look at the saints. Yesterday drew brees thumb now. He's out there saying six weeks is actually going to be longer. I believe right because he's not gonNA come back and be drew brees. He's GonNa Rusty but I said Kalomo replace chiming champion Scotland hand go ahead no. I'm just saying like NFL week to week. You have a few teams. You have a few teams. That won't mess it up right. You'll beat yourself when you go into a New Orleans with drew brees healthy to a New England patriots right. There's some teams that they just they just get it right but everyone else is weak the weak but let me ask you a question. Put you on a Spa uh-huh so let's say example you still a mental hypothetically speaking you still remember the Chicago Bears Yeah I when you look at the NFC who would you view as the number one team to be worried about the division of the NFC conference okay and if the cops who would be the number apple one team you'd be worried about what the cowboys would it be. Somebody else I'm looking at the Seattle seahawks thank you. I'm looking at the seat of their defense is still is good. It's it's efficient deficient yeah so deficient Russell Wilson. He's a he's a player now you now you add in the passing attack lashing. He ran the ball people really don't don't. I don't know this but Seattle really didn't pass the ball great last year. They had Tyler Lockett just throwing bombs up. He'll have three catches. Two of them. Were sixty or or bombs. They didn't pass the ball. Look what he did. In Pittsburgh I know they're secondary's banged up and beat up and not really good right now but Seattle is now passing the ball you Baldwin so you're targeting Tyler Lockett more correct so now you have a run a game and you have an OPP- pass attack and you have I mean I agree about the defense real L. differences again with the cowboys. They didn't invest in the offensive line for a long time. Even starting with Jimmy Graham Trade for Max longer they've been doing it recently. Finally add ended up their decent. They're they're like solid FRA and that makes a difference passing game running game. Everything I agree. I think Seattle is live. We still have three more weeks for our first true test for the cowboys because they have dolphins next week then they have the saints without drew brees and then they have the packers the packers seeing them up against Aaron Rodgers will be a real test. Uh Let's not overlook the Saints Teddy Kim Ball and you also get co pay coach. Peyton is a phenomenal. The cowboys beat them with this not. It's not a it's not a it's not a layup bridges not a layup quarterback. I'm not saying there's just another level. When it comes down to gain planning coach Peyton we talk about all these young guns? All these coaches like oh men. They're bringing something new to the a game coach. Peyton is phenomenal holds pay off every Hopefully one day that you let me ask you the question brilliant question listen. I'd take another way Sean Payton coach but then they miss the players six of the last seven years. Let's not act like he's the second come on body. Okay this call. When you talk about and then we will be really it and tell you water? y'All know all of us. All of us at at this table is guilty that you know damn well. If you walked in you ask the question about Edward scrummage here I was there. I had a cup of tea in New Orleans. Last year. I spent the entire month on the scout team and I was with Teddy Bridgewater the water so I'm GonNa tell you what Teddy Bridgewater is. Go ahead. Teddy Bridgewater is healthy and he's a healthy Pennington. He's a tiny cornerback. Oh ooh that's high praise chick. Chat healthy is the real deal the real deal but here's Chad Pennington. It's timing be we're supposed to be if you're not a twenty year route teddy bridgewater. He's got a better on that. You God. This is the same do that used to rave about. They got with Jay Cutler more knocking talk real happy night Jerry. I'm always hold the Cutler's okay you got it. Please news quoting it when he went to the defendant. Jay Cutler bed just look leadership leadership. He can make every throw. He's one of the smartest there's guys I've ever been around but it comes down to this heart rate here in leadership galvanizing the team that we this is the betrayal and talk walkabout poke to be your partner brother is so on national television rate at elitist gas handled that Monica anyway. I drink water molly's Davos heart then it was talent but here here's the do you at practice with Jay Cutler. I run a fifteen in your Jay Cutler miss you. Let's talk. I haven't talked to tease. I gotTA DO Mistake Cutler. We were the same here we we had a great friendship fifteen yard comeback. We don't connect they. Oh He's going to do all this. Come on he's going to do that first time I was as we eli manning whereas with drew brees Russell Wilson we miss so let me ask you. Don't see that right. You need that. You can't can't be afraid to approach a quarterback. You can't be afraid to mess up because quarterbacks crushing Manning Russell Wilson drew brees the some of the quarterback Sunday under north champion and Ryan Fitzpatrick Guys WanNa play for those quarterbacks Allie Allie leave me alone. We're take on listened to story real quick so had a relative of mine yeah years ago. I ain't GonNa say who it is designed to put out a personal business as she had a boyfriend and I looked at this brother but dammit it was one of my sisters have the same thing and I looked at him and I met him for five minutes. I said poor boy don't have achieved. He'll be done in a month. Let me tell you what the AL give them. What was going on this nice to enhance? Does how this Dash Jake you know what was the cargo. Is this like a real. This really happen. This really happen. Jay Cutler was nobody audits Congo this water so much google real shoots quarterback on the jets. Oh Ryan Fitzpatrick talked to him. The other day and I love I love Ryan. Fitzpatrick couldn't throw Jay Cutler but you know what I'll run through a dam wall for Ryan Fitzpatrick because 'cause he's GonNa give me as interception bank told Cutler's talent people like Oh. That's my favorite in the packers improved to our new coach Mala floor after beating the vikings the fifth time in the past seven games at Lambofield all isn't perfect in Green Bay. We saw Batman arguing with his coach on the sideline the coaching QB downplayed the exchange is about the look on on defense but I was actually kind of surprised that that he was coming to talk about that but we got it all sorted out there on the sideline. You'd actually wasn't a big deal. He's just as my were. You know little animated at times but I can't say it. was you know we're yelling how much we love each other but we definitely weren't. MFN each other or anything it was talking about Uh. Look there and you know get on Saint Yeah. That's just too competitive guys. and I'm sure it's not going to be the last one we have but you know just just competitors heat of the moment and you know it is what it is Steven. What do you think big deal no big? I don't think it's a big deal unless you unless you wanna point to the fact that the coach speaking up and being forcible Arron Rogers is a big deal and they in a plus or in a positive fashion but negatively speaking. I don't think there's a big little I mean that's the kind of relationship that you both have with each other. You can't beat Amer Rogers at your quarterback by the way you can't have first of all you can't have Amerada as your quarterback and you know what you the new coach at you. Just sit. Idly by and say nothing when you've got it. You're not going to have to respect the Amer garages unless you're bringing something to the Table And oh by the way vichy is incredibly important. I can't believe what what I'm seeing the bay packs up the number two ranked defense a NASA football. I realized that defense spent some really big. That's big and that's why it's a big deal real quick brandon. That's why it's a big deal. They don't have an offense so far now that may get clicking right like they may get going and Aaron Rodgers goes back to Aaron Rodgers and then they could win the super bowl which I think is a big deal for Aaron Rodgers Yeah. I know I geek peak out like this. I'm not saying that. NFL players think this way or I'm just talking geeking out like a fan right. Look Aaron Rodgers. I thought the best the more more influence over the outcome of giving game that anyone I've ever seen any position okay but he's never gonNA catch. Tom Brady's accomplishments. He's not with Bill Belichick but if you sit on one it's not like in the old days. Marino could only got that one radius changed that now rogers. That's that's one. I don't think so. Here's the other thing you can't look Rogers anymore. Say He's by far the best guy really if you equal out everything else because Patrick mahomes comes on the scene that dates rogers to me Rogers cannot fall back on but he's really the best no he's not right now. The last season some change Patrick mahomes than better her like a lot better drew brees says but I'm talking about like the young female could every single thing Aaron Rodgers seems to do right that also dates Aaron rodgers features. You gotta get this together so they're winning and it's okay but if this is a reflection of the fact that the offense isn't clicking that's bad for Rogers well I'm going to I'm going to transition stage right now. Right like plan. Last year had a cup of tea with Seattle now. I'm doing little television AH vision doing some stuff and fitness right so but I never I never understood this question in the media like. Is this a big deal. Why do we always what do we always talk about this? Why is this a topic when you have tension on the sideline between players teammates or player coach question? Do you know I really do want to answer to that. I don't understand why big deal very simple because when you have the pain customer who's also watching and looking at you. It's not just about your performance. It's what facilitates you performing in a fashion that you let's say for example hypothetically competition and the the saints example hypothetically you show up on the field you ball but you audience all week long. Somebody's GonNa look at you and they're going to say no matter the how great you are there something that's missing because there's an absence of dedicated to your craft but we're dedicating our resources to help to you to come out the fanciest but let me tell you how I feel with Aaron Rodgers. It's unique because people say that he ran Mike McCarthy Outta town town so people are looking at him and he's faced a lot of criticism how he is as a teammate how he is with coaches how he wants to run the offense so this is a unique situation with Aaron Rogers and his new head coach. That's why we're watching it. Under here's the reality the reality is I've seen daily. I've seen coaches argue view. I've seen players argue. I've seen players fight and you see all the time. Why because it's a billion dollar business right and there's lives is on the line every single day now? I'm not trying to take away from people like our our men and women. Are I think about it. If I don't perform perform I'll tell you I will be a lot of people don't understand the pressure that players are filling every single single moon moment not just in gangs. They don't let me give you my understanding copy everywhere we why do we make a big deal of it and I'm going to quote someone from maybe before your time I don't know if you'll recognize this quote Eropean Rockets Rock Kim quote every now and then they give my knuckle game a test but but I don't just get rid of the stress and then shake hands like a man. It's a family thing. Only the crew all right. Dan Okay understand okay okay. You want to know what we want to know from some real words. Thanks what we want from where we're sitting is. Is it a family okay. Let's Fan Martha so listen or are they gonNA get down to Business America America look this happens all the time. We can't you gotta just go. They're going to America. This happens all the time right so you're GONNA see Tom. Brady get into it with Josh mcdaniels this year. Maybe even belichick right. You're going to see Adam Gates with the jets. Get into it tonight on Monday night football a player or referee this happens all the time. This is not a big deal. This is actually what you want to see from your team. If you don't want to miss he'll you just the Jay Cutler you want emotion or not. Stephen Elkins debate about what they can get to legislate dad broke no matter how hard you and we'll see if it's a big deal or not results will tell you you want that from your team. I'd say you don't want emotion. Welcome back. We have breaking news into. I take the steelers stay that Ben Rothlisberger was surgery this week in his out for the season. Even I repeat Ben Rothlisberger out for the season he had an MRI and his right elbow Sunday evening it was determined by the steelers medical team that surgery would be required. We expect the surgery will be scheduled this week again. Placed on our Stephen a before you even soon as we heard this stephen you just off the air. You just dropped Jay Cutler. Did your body language so bad. When you're really a a fan of they're not gonNA play off the Ravens win this division Mason Rudolph? I'm supposed to believing him. No twelve of nineteen yesterday was one hundred twelve yards TV's inception. I'm not supposed to get excited amazing so he's really set right now. I I mean it was over before the injury. I no no no I was. I knew they WANNA win the Super Bowl but I still thought that they had a playoff running them. That's over still the season's over I think I think it may not be so bad for them. In the sense that I agree he's GonNa turn yeah like the to me. This look like an eight team. Little luck nine ten wins look it could get unlucky wind up to six eight native team right what the one knock against Tomlin which is legitimate because he hasn't had a chance to show otherwise you inherited Rothlisburger Burger. You inherited a great quarterback so you've won with him more than almost anyone accepted can you what can you do without Rothlisberger. They drafted Mason Rudolph. I think it was in the third round. He was considered a potential guy. Who could take over? Maybe now let's see what you can do with a young quarterback. You don't even have to go anymore but can you compete. Can you develop developed a young guy who can eventually take over for Rothlisburger. That is the unanswered question about Tomlin. Here's the opportunity yeah but developing Rudolph doesn't mean and that it's GonNa come in wins and shape of wins right like this is going to be a process. This is a huge blow not only for The steelers but this division you been rothlisburger who can take over an entire game right like this guy could win. He can win in six seven games himself with the guys around him playing bed. This is a huge blow. It changed the dynamic of the Division Changed Dynamic of the conference. I do believe even coach Tomlin but it's not going to come in wins and losses. He could do a phenomenal job. What can he thinks Game Mason Rudolph yes he and by the way yes you can? I don't even know so if the steelers have a third quarterback on their roster. All I saw on the depth chart was big Ben and Mesa Ruutel so whoever you bring on board house we somebody howdy any interest leading why not call the calendar Capri. Why Not Jolly cabinet I mean is this girl? Just told me the other day training every every day he go- he ready to go perfect. Why not it's would look it was super? Bowl is the best quarterback in this division. Now is adult Lamar Mayfield Lamar Jackson Lamar's the Best l'amour is the best yesterday look what he did the throwing the ball and then also running right now right now he would to me. He's the sex right now just based on the first two games only he's the second best quarterback in the entire the NFL one hundred outside of the whole key to the whole key to me for Lamarcus. He'd look bad in that playoff game at twenty one years old. I get it as a twenty two year old. If they're looking the Patriots Naef C. Championship game something like that with all the wrinkles Bella chicks going to have for him because he's now adjusted to the league. They're going to readjust readjust to that but yeah but here's the here's the thing that we have to watch when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens. It's the running game if they can run the ball. What happens you gotTa put put eight men in a box naked box? He can run so now. You GotTa play cover zero so what happened play action pass. This is the deadliest office that you can be in. Go Man Good to see tomorrow admit that about taking molly thanks for listening to the

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Raiders Re-Sign Brandon Marshall, Ready to Return to the Oakland Coliseum

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Raiders Re-Sign Brandon Marshall, Ready to Return to the Oakland Coliseum

"Vegas nation presented by SDN sports mobile from station casinos. We're trying to bring the right kind of people in here. We think that can build championship football team the most loyal fans in the world. I know it hurts that we might the Oakland raiders forever but we are still later next. I think it's going to be a You'll get an army coming into what's up. Everybody it's time for another episode of the Vegas Nation podcast brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile Station Casinos. Don't forget to CHECK OUT VEGAS NATION DOT COM download that Vegas nation APP to follow everything happening with the silver and black. Today we've got a betting segment lined up for Utah Dewey. We're going to get into some of the latest injuries. As and transactions. The raiders have made this week. And we're also going to break down the first home. Game for the raiders since September fifteenth coming up here against the lions in in week nine. So let's get to it here. Let's hear from. I are raiders beat writers during the show we have Adam Hill and miles. Simmons Miles is out there in Alameda. Alameda Adam in the house today. Joining us on the Vegas Nation. podcast Adam how you doing. I'm freshly back from Alameda so good. Jet Exiting are you back in On these fancy jets of just jumping back and forth and whatever I can find a good just jump jump aboard move on back and forth I feel like I can fly the plane Elaine. At this point do you know what day it is I think it's Thursday because somebody told me was Halloween and I think that was going to be on a Thursday record. This it is Thursday but yeah I feel feel like I could kind of tell the pilot by the way you're supposed to go right at that mountain so let's Let's fix that. Flight Path is a little wealthier miles. I promised Adam. I wouldn't wouldn't say happy Halloween. So this is my indirect way of saying happy Halloween on the show. You how are you miles. I'm great You know it's funny that have been by the time this thing comes out Halloween's overmanned and so everybody's already in their candy and it's you know this day of the dead. It's happy Halloween anymore. Highest the they. Where are you going trick or treating wiles? I feel like that'd be a good activity for after practice absolutely not. I am not following up so much to do out in the bay area where you are at so. Let's get into things happening in the bay area. Miles I mean the raiders back at home after playing five games away. How is the feeling out there? Can you tell that the team team is really ready for this home. Stand against the Lions. Yeah for sure I think Derek Carr put really interestingly yesterday when he said they need to see us and we need to see them and he's talking about the fans so I think after so much time on the road it's been really I mean I'll put it this way. I'm tired and I don't play and you know going across the country for these different games. I mean I. You went to London with Ed Right. It's a lot of travel to put on. These guys is and so yesterday Jon. GRUDEN was talking about how he thinks. Everybody should have a six weeks away from home and that's not going to happen but I understand. Stand his frustration with the fact that you start playing in the regular season of home games and then you just go away and you have to do all of this travel. It's really he really hard on people's bodies and you know Derek Carr and John Gruener both made the joke that they want to take their wife's on a date so they'll get to do that this week. They'll get to stay at home. They'll get to the fans and the black hole. Adam I mean miles talk about the length of the trip and the extensive time that the raiders has been away from home. I think think the miles tallied up over like twenty seven thousand miles worth of travel for the team and so the raiders have been a little banged up on this trip. Linebacker spot spot is a little bit banged up. They've made some moves there the offensive line. Those where I want to focus because both Andrea James an Rodney Hudson has sustained ankle injuries. And it would seem that the raiders have need need some help now. They're so they signed. Eric Magnusson what can you tell us about the state of the offensive line at him. I mean and he's right in for deputies. The Guy who played center he played at Michigan. He was with the forty niners. I know he's been with the bills practice squad here for the first part of the year but the plan is not for him him to be the option at center this week in and Magnusson said yesterday like Hey I've been at seven different systems. I can pick up things pretty quickly but the plan right now if you know if indeed Roddy Hudson is out and it didn't seem encouraging yesterday based on the discussions he was not a practice. Then it would be richie incognito kind of moving over and he said he took some snaps on an emergency basis in two thousand and ten said he worked on some snaps on the sideline on Sunday. Just in case. But hasn't it really played a whole lot of center so we'll see if he is able to You know if he's forced into making that switch if he has to move over there and I think the crazy part of this offensive line shakeup. They've been doing this all year. They've been filling in spots. You know figuring it out where they had to but the first time they finally had their full often divine together. Was this past Sunday the first time. The projected unit started altogether in Rodney. Hudson makes it all of ten offensive snaps before he goes down. And then Andre James as well and so it grew saying yesterday. Hey look the center was a guy that we've you know we've had. We've had three different guys at left guard because he does suspended. Spend them mostly guys around with three to five right guard through Gaza right tackle now are potentially GonNa have a third guy playing center. It's just it's every single position. Called Miller has really been the the only guy who's been able to be there from start to finish for them holding things down at the left tackle but it has been a mash unit. So I think it's even more impressive. What they've been able to do as offensive line throughout this season? The fact that you had to mix and match so much and miles on the other side of the ball. The defensive side of the ball. The raiders have injuries injuries which is more Oh. They had injuries at linebacker. So they've resigned Brandon Marshall who is with the team through training camp and he is going probably. Hbo Somebody that they do use right away with Japan Inc.. Yeah I think they might have to I it's interesting because you now have to your whitehead in Nicholas. Nicholas Moore who has been the primary linebackers especially since Both Marquel Leigh. Ann was hurt. And then he's been I are and then you also have Of avantis perfect. who was suspended of course for the rest of the season? So those two have been your primary linebackers. It's going to be interesting to see Brandon. Marshall is in football shape enough to compete right away. I'm really interested to hear what Paul Guenther has to say about that. And that will of course after practice on Thursday. So we'll see what happens there. I it's interesting. Just the state of their linebacker position has kind of been in flux much like the offensive line has been over the course of the season. But I think we can say that the linebackers linebacker haven't necessarily fared as well as your offensive line has so it's interesting because they're going to have to mix matching fill in at these spots and that's what so many teams in this league have to do. I mean they always talk about that next man up philosophy and you know everybody's got that across the League so we'll see how and if Brandon Marshall can contribute right away but I think we'll compton is definitely guy. We're going to see on the field on Sunday at least on special teams because that is a place nice where he's contributed before and Brandon Marshall. Not as much and that's where they really are going to need help. After Justin Phillips was lost for the season with a knee injury he was contributing mostly on special teams to. So we'll see how this all turns out over the course of the week. Drill was interesting yesterday to hear. Jon Gruden make that. Make that comment again because Brennan Marshall We know was the guy that was there throughout training camp. WHO's expected to be a starter for this team is guy who's been around the League's veteran who's who's won at a high level and there was just kind of an assumption? Okay well he hasn't really been able to to get full healthy and be up to be up to speed here and training camp. But he's going to be the starter he's going to move forward. And then the the the surprise cut cut down Sunday in part of that was hey. He's a guy that doesn't contribute on special teams. We need our linebackers to do that for the most part. And you know it's it's not really gonNA work out with him here and yesterday again Jon Gruden said Hey. The special teams are a big part of this. We're you know we need those guys to contribute in that way so interesting that he would say that after bringing Brandon Marshall back who was who was really let go in large part because he wasn't gonNA special teams contributor so I wanna see the usage those guys especially on special teams coming up on Sunday. Here's another special teamer who I'm interested in finding out about because I think he's very key and plays a big role here for the raiders on special special teams. That's the Wayne Harris. He left the game against Houston last week. In the first quarter I believe and then came back right before the half so miles with dwayne Harris. He did not practice as of yesterday being Wednesday. So do you have any information onto Wayne Harris. Is this just kind of precautionary. which can you tell us about his injury? The and if you expect him to go with the raiders this week now he has a foot injury and like you said. He didn't participate in Wednesday's session. So we'll have to see if he he does go on Thursday or Friday. I think the interesting thing right now about harasses how much how would you balance the way. He's performed versus the way Davis has performed in terms of being a returner on special teams. That's really his specialty in so he also can go down the field and he can make tackles but at the same time you also have other players on the team. Who can do that so I think wools have to see whether or not this foot injury is going to keep him out for the next couple of days first first of all and then if he is able to perform then is he gonna be healthy enough to keep returning because Davis is somebody that can do that and can be effective with it all right so we will get into this upcoming game here in Houston but right now? We're going to send things over to todd. Dewey who's going to give us a betting preview of week nine in the NFL well as promised. Here's todd do. We are sports betting columnists you can find him on twitter at t thirty three. Todd what do you have for us this week. On the raiders. It looks like their favorites at home. Yeah they're finally back home. Hi thanks for having me glad to be with the talent like yourself. And the raiders of covering three of the last four games covered as five and a half point underdogs at Houston Twenty seven twenty four loss last week first home game since week. Too hard to believe that they navigated that stretch pretty nicely. The line open that pig. Hair at home raiders against the Lions look headline was pick. Now the consensus line around. Las Vegas is raiders by two up to two and a half point favorites at some spots. Total from fifty to fifty and a half the lions of failed to cover the last two you and three and four Oregon spread overall no sharp action on the raiders but shops are on some other games out there. Tell us who this shops are on this week. Todd yeah the biggest game of the week might be. The biggest bet. Game of the season is GonNa be the Patriots at the Ravens on Sunday. Night and shaping up as one of these classic sharps verse. Some people say squares pros vs Joes the the professional versus the betting public is what it comes down to The sharp all over the Ravens in this one. The look headline the Patriots favored by as much as six and a half sharp. bettas are all over the ravens getting four war getting three and a half at home. It's at three and a half right now but the betting public is going to be all over the Patriots in this one there are no. They've covered four a straight six two against the spread. The Ravens are coming off a bye and they've won three straight but they're only two four and wine against the spread. The sharp Dr Betters are also on the dolphins as producer. Larry Murrow be happy to know. getting three and a half as home underdogs to the jets. So I guess they think that Sam Darnold is going to be seeing ghosts at Halloween weekend hair and the jets open the six and a half point favorites on the look at headline than sharp money. I drove that line all the way down at three. Miami's Owen Seven. But they've covered their last three in New York as one in six and just tuned. Five against against the spread. Sharp is also backing the pack as three point road favorites at the charges and also taken the over in that game packers in over at the charges at minus three and forty seven and a half Green Bay's six against the spread and they've gone over and five of their last six. The line opened at four went down. Three it's back up to three and a half now the total and open up forty five and a half when up to forty eight and a half charges electric escape escape the win at Chicago last week to only two five and one against the spread so looking for Aaron Rodgers in the pack to keep it rolling and the final sharp play of the week is on Tampa Bay getting six at Seattle. That one was as high as six and a half down to five Seattle sixty two. But they're only three three in five against the spread and they failed to cover three of their last four in the bucks bucks have been pretty bad on C.. With the sharp seeing this one. They're all in three three straight up against the spread skid in two and five straight up against the spread overall. Who Do you like? Hide your band but a cash and he tickets no is the answer. I give the sports book all my money. They take it all and they just use it for the Fund for selling dollar hotdogs or something like that you know Eh provided enough hot dogs for the sportsbook Oh it surely luckily dad the talent like yourself here. Todd and I appreciate you coming on every week macaire again you can find all todd's numbers and bending action everything that happens in the paper with the Review Journal and of Course Online at Review Journal Dot Com and Dan biggest nation DOT com. Todd thank you so much for coming on. Thank you good luck to everyone. This episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. Sdn sports the only sports betting APP. You need this season. Sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars again. That was todd. Do we hear every week joining the Vegas nation. podcast bring us all the betting action happening in the NFL. And that was everything for week nine so we hope you got set there. Let's go ahead and get into the game here against the Lions the raiders back in home as we mentioned for the first time since September fifteenth. Ain't this game a big one. I think for the raiders being. But right now they are in second still in the AFC west the chiefs holding onto that first position but miles. You said it on the podcast last week when we've wrapped up things in Houston at this point. The raiders are in the hunt. We're seeing that graphic pop up everywhere where they can still make a playoff spot here. This obviously being a game where they need to win and as todd mentioned. They're actually favored for the first time here in a while L. in this game so GRUDEN's been three and one against the lions. What do you over? What do you see right now? Is like a big key to this. Game for the raiders. Miles well these other two teams teams. That are not really great at defense and so because of that it could turn into a shootout and that is not necessarily something that you want. What if you are the raiders? Because you're not necessarily that great at scoring points all the time right and so. I think that it's going to be very interesting. Because you have a lion's pass offense that is fifth in the league versus a raiders. Pass defense that is thirtieth but if you look at the the Lions Pass defense their thirty second in the League and their thirty first and league in total defense right. So if the raiders are very good at rushing the ball. We know that Josh Jacobs has been one of the best rookies in the league. He was named the rookie of the month for October. So good for him on that but you think when you look at that then you have to say okay. Well what's going to happen on the offensive line because if bridging Anita was playing center. That's a tough deal. It's it's not easy for an offense to go through a sinner transition with a guy that's not played center in that team throughout the course of the off-season regular season. So I actually Richie Incognito knows the playbook but I still think when you're going from being left guard to being a centering having to snap every single play. They've that makes things a little bit difficult so it depends on the way you know things shake out with that center position. You hope that either Andre James Rodney Hudson can be available salable but still I just. It's hard for me to handicap. This won't because both teams are not good at defense and I don't know how Detroit is GonNa come into this one when calling across the country in their three three and one I. I just don't really know what's going to happen in this game. It's like more than I feel like most games I just. I'm I'm not sure what's going on with this one. It didn't it's intriguing to look at as you as you pointed out there. It's strength or strengthen that the way to attack the lions is to go against against their their pass. Defense against their secondary in the raiders would rather be a grinded out kind of running team in attack on the ground and that's really not where the lions lines are the most vulnerable so It's who can kind of go against you know against what they do kind of break. There break their stereotype if you will out on on the field on Sunday so I think the raiders will try to attack the secondary. I think they will try to go. And yesterday you know their car in his Derek Carr way was kind of saying thing you know he he takes with defense gives them and he's sick of hearing of of different parts of the critiques of him so far but if the if the defense of their he'll take the deep shots and they have taken a couple more the last couple weeks and getting tyrone Williams back. We'll help in that regard but I think they're going to have to try to attack in that way because that's where the lines are vulnerable. And if they can do that they'll be in a good position but I do think it's interesting. You know I I saw some people pointing out like hey. The the raiders are favored. That means they're a better team than lions will actually. They're favored by lesson. Listen three which means the oddsmakers telling you the lines are a better team here It's just adjusting for home. Field advantage. I it's I think it's it's interesting that you know. The the raiders are right now even though we feel that they're they're better than they were supposed to be They allow people to one in six. I certainly thought they'd be one in six at this point. They're still not quite at that level where they're better than some of these teams like Detroit but Adam bring up an interesting point here with the offense maybe it turns into a shootout. Maybe this is the game where they both kind of Feature the passing game but Detroit right now they don't really have anybody that can sustain the running game the way that Kerryon Johnson could. I mean albeit Detroit isn't exactly known for their running game as of late and it's been quite a while we weren't really letting him established around anyway even he was supposed to be the bell. Cow Back you're supposed to be the you know that three down guy They really weren't letting him establish himself in getting him that many carries when he was there but now certainly there in a different spot where they've brought it trae Carson The Guy Johnson but they don't really trust anybody to be that guy even they didn't even trust round-robin to be that guy so I certainly don't think now is going to be the top where they start saying. Hey we're going to be a grinded out kind of team. They're they're gonNA they're gonNA pass. They're going to put the game in the hands of Matt Stafford in there and they're pretty good wide receiver core and see what they can do all right so I think when we look at the game though it makes it a little a bit more one dimensional. So miles. The raiders right now thirteen sacks on the season that equals the total that they had last season and I think a large part of that is due talks. Crosby and the pressure that he's been putting on opposing quarterbacks Mohur certainly contributed here so where do you see the defense being able not attack this team. Well if the Detroit lions are going to try to air out which I mean. I guess that they're going to have to try to do that. would be more of their strength. Versus versus the raiders weakness. Then that's GonNa give more opportunities for guys like crosby guys like Mayo Maybe even guy like Leland feral to get in there and get a sack. Arden key and other guy that I think could use some time getting into the quarterback and actually taking him down so if this thing this game I think is gonNA come down to turn overs takeaways if you can win that turnover battle then yes you're gonNa have a much better chance to win and that's an obvious thing to say when we're talking about football but I think especially in in this game where it could be a back and forth thing where you know you're maybe getting into a shoot out if you can limit the turnovers that you have if Derek Carr doesn't make that one pass that's going to turn the game around Darius slay then you're going to have a much better chance to win if you can force Matthew Stafford into making a bad pass and maybe trayvon John Mullin gets his first interception. Then that's going to be a big thing in helping you win I but this game is going to come down to those kinds of deals because you know Oh look this. Neither of these teams are really that great defense and I think we saw that last week with the raiders when you go to Houston and you will allow while all those really long sustained drives in that second half you just wore yourself down. The defense ended up. Playing eighty-three plays total against the Houston. Texans since last week and I think you saw how they got worn down toward the end of that game and that's why Shawn Watson was able to make the play that he was able to make so it's going to come down and turnover it's GonNa come down takeaways in King you get the critical stop when you need the critical stop. Another thing for the raiders to keep an eye on these penalties. I mean with such a young team. We've we've seen a lot of penalties outta them last week. Eleven total penalties for a total a hundred yards of costume so Adam. How does this team get better at avoiding these kind Hannah penalties? Why would they think this is the plan? This Jon Gruden talks about embracing the past of the raiders and bringing the raiders. Back to where they were. This is. What the raiders have always been? They've always been the most penalize analyze teams league. I don't think that's the part he was talking about The yeah certainly they have to. They have to clean things up. It's it's just it's kill you especially being the team they WANNA BE THEY WANNA be team. That's ahead of the six. Everybody does everybody says they are the epitome of the team. That has to play that way. They have to pick up yards on first down they they have to be on third and short they they they have to be in positive situations and the penalties are putting them in very bad situations. And it's part of the reason why when they followed behind the how. How many would really come back in games for the most part? They've had to be Kinda front running team and that's their identity. I think miles is the one set a couple of weeks ago that most people are kind of looking ordinary. We know what the raiders are and they're certainly not a team that can afford to play with these kind of penalty issues. Okay so let's break it down. What's the final score? Who are we picking this week? Miles oh boy. I really don't know thirty to twenty seven raiders. I guess I'm not confident in that. Pick it all. Sounds very sort of about that. That APP with yeah. It's GonNa win just sort of add onto what Adam more saying if the raiders are in those third manageable situations. They've been in that most of the season that's why they're third in third down conversions so if they can continue to do that within like yeah I like I said I don't really know so. Yeah thirty to twenty seven years all right. I wasn't a follow up on that and say. Yeah our raiders. An agree with you on the raiders. Taking this one at home I'm GonNa give the final scores. Twenty seven twenty one out. I'm going to go. Oh Twenty seven to twenty three lions. Yeah okay so that'll do it here for the Vegas Nation Nation. PODCAST guys will be back after the game on Sunday. recapping all of the action and don't forget every week. We are here for a preview. It next week is Thursday game so we'll be dropping that one a little bit earlier in the week so keep an eye out for that one again the Sunday recap to follow all of us on twitter for Adam Hill it's Atom Hill L. E. R. J.. Hey Miles. Is that miles as Simmons. I met Heidi Fang. Don't forget to download that VEGAS NATION APP find US ON VEGAS NATION DOT com to keep up with everything happening with the raiders. And leave some comments while you're there we always love

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 520: Kaep Has Demands For The AAF (2-15-2019)

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 520: Kaep Has Demands For The AAF (2-15-2019)

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I get but I just have to correct myself because I don't want people criticize the doesn't own the name of it. I know the name of it, anyways, they're going to be like who's this hack? He doesn't even know. Yeah. Football. I mean, he used the ball the kick into the basket, right? Oh, yeah. That sport that's named incorrectly. It's true. But anyways, moving on touch the ball with your in this. There's only one there's only one two players in the team that beat that throw ball. I think handball that's a sport. I know just take that name to soccer was just called football anyways. So why not just take it from another thing you want to know, something crazy, but English people called soccer soccer, not Americans really get made fun of for it. Wait, they came up with the term soccer. Yes. Oh, I thought we came up with the term. No. And I'll tell you the history. This is actually very interesting because Paul fans out there probably might wanna use this as a digital when you're hanging out with your buddies. Sometimes England buddies reason is is that in England football was what they called soccer and rugby. Okay. The difference is they called soccer association football. They use it. They said association football that was the game that we know today a soccer where you kick the ball football. For them was is rugby is most. Identifies. What we call for ball K. So association is where they got the term soccer look at how a sushi association soccer. That's exactly how soccer came about. They started calling it soccer. So they didn't have to say association football, every time to differentiate between association, football and football. And that's where K from yet. They don't use it anymore. They call rugby rugby. They call football soccer. They call soccer football. But now, we call it soccer. Because that's what we were told. It was called. We still call it that. But why do we call football football that? I don't know. Like, I know the guy I wanna know, I wanna the guy invented it was like was there more kicking in the sport than you. Then days today. I don't believe. So, but I know that there wasn't any throwing right like back in. There was no forward past ten they it should not be called throw ball either. Well, no, no, it I think we might have just answered their own. Question because basically was rugby. Yeah. Before this or pay us more kicking obviously. Okay. They had to anyways, we got really off topic. Anyways. We're the alliance American football handball rough ball rough ball out topic. Yeah. And we'll also talk about how calling Kabir Nick wants his demands for the af. And as well, we'll talk about some free agent moves shows his Brennan marshalls of America. We'll talk Colin Kaepernick when we return. Nice guys way to put politics into a sports show. It's politics. It's it is. We can talk politics without being political. You can do that. Anyways. We're also gonna talk Brandon Marshall being released from the Broncos and how that will impact on that team as well as where he should end up next. And we can also talk about the next week two games of the af as well. Because that's coming up. Also, the speculation Adam silver, possibly replacing Roger Goodell's Commissioner of the NFL what every football in wants. Because Roger Goodell is public enemy number one in everybody likes him silver. Don't they? He's just he doesn't open his mouth a lot. He is in fine people in fairly intelligent, and like an like sound at Dell like he just puts his foot in his mouth when he absolutely. And also he makes ridiculous fines in these suspensions have been very, criticized. His ideas patriots clown. Goodell shirts year seen the I. I think someone was supposedly wearing Warren to war one right right for or they said like, oh, that's not very because he got tunnel at people that are sensitive Roger Goodell's pretty sensitive. Yeah. Maybe when he gets booed at the draft. He talks louder and louder tries to over Sierra doesn't let people boo. The last story that I want to discuss at the end of our show is the NCWA sack league or not being allowed to participate at the NFL. Combine we'll tell you why. And we'll tell you are thoughts on it's a very it's controversial, man. Well, this controversy we can do that second segment, and then golden Brandon Marshall after that regardless what we'll figure it out. But let's there over the af of a Colin Kaepernick has been contacted Tim tebow by the af Tim tebow said, no, I was he worried he's focused on his baseball career knows that the NFL to do what play. Well, what else would they contact today? Now. Contact. I was trying to clarify Vinnie. Anybody didn't hear about this? Well, Tebas and contacted to play football and the quarterback position in the af he turned it down. Because I think he knows we talked sports podcast. He's not thinking himself as a future NFL player and most likely future baseball if anything. Yeah. And and he's gonna be a drum baseball. So he'll get a big contract from the Mets in theory. And then now on Kaepernick capital offered that as well. But his demands a lot higher than what they're paying their other players usually the players getting two hundred fifty thousand dollars for three years. Nope, no guarantee, and that's seventy five thousand dollars a year and cabernet has asked for twenty million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. He has a reportedly we don't know that to be true. But yes, that is what reports say is that after the F contacted Colin capper Nick that him or his team or whatever his group have demanded or ask down about demanded but asked for twenty million dollar salary to join the af and for him to play true. So there there is a lot of people saying he's asking for way too much, or are you kidding me? He hasn't played in three years or four years. How long it's been, and it's understandable, those people on that side. But in reality, he's a draw. People are going to watch him play hate hate him. Or love him. He's going to be considered a top like he's he's a draw. Like, I said, I don't think there's any question about that. That's why they're looking for him in honesty. So he's he's certainly draw. So I mean, a lot of people are saying that you know, what cap is doing is dumb, or they're they're very critical of him demanding that much money. I don't even have demands right word. Right. Because he didn't approach them. They approached me said sure I'll play for this amount of money. So I wouldn't say demand after the title of this show says demand. So we're going to say demands. Yeah. But it may demand. Sounds like I'm only ultimatum. Yeah. Like, he was one that approached them. Why you like sure I'll play for you. But if you give me this amount of money like that doesn't sound like a demand that just sounds like kinda demand in theory. Sure. I mean, technically can be just doesn't sound right. There's other ways to describe that bike asked for twenty million of well, if he was asked anything get he'd be like, okay. I can settle demands. Like this walking kind of scenario was he was approached true. So he doesn't have to walk. He was already standing there. You know? So it's not like they're in his home. He's on the street ask. So he can walkaway going extreme. We're splitting hairs here. But demand is like a silly word. Like if you were writing an article, and he wrote demand like, yes, you're probably doing it to get some clicks. But like, you know, it's stupid. You know, like, you know, it's it's it's just a logical at this point. So anyways, he wants twenty million dollars reportedly will even if that's true, you know, a lot of harsh reactions coming in. Do you think he should play for less than that? Well, how much lesser we think in here? I don't know seventy five thousand dollars like everybody else. I guess maybe. But again, he has a lot to lose in this scenario. Yeah. Plays. Good. No one's gonna take him seriously biz it's against af players on NFL players. And if he doesn't do well, then people are getting what's the word? I'm looking for then verified that he's not ready for these non ready for the NFL again. And I think he should wait for wait for an opportunity to get back into the NFL because I think sooner or later he will be back in the NFL PA quarterbacks in the NFL right now, you can say he's better than a majority of them. Yeah. He's he's at least more successful. I mean capper Nick is better than a good number of NFL starting quarterbacks. I wouldn't argue against at all definitely not in the top ten or anything like that be somewhere near. Okay. What's second? Who who are the teams need a quarterback right now. Let's talk about that. Like the giants can football giants quarterback. The Washington Redskins needed quarterback. We talked about the Redskins too because they went out and signed Josh Johnson. And I think most of us would sit at capital, probably better. And people were like, why didn't you even consider cavity win with Josh flippin Johnson? He did. All right. No doubt about it. But like, I'm sorry. I would've Pat capper Nick Josh Johnson just due to his excess. He's played into Super Bowl. Josh Johnson ninety nine close. Yeah. Johnson won his first professional or first NFL game of his career this year. Yeah. In like a career that spanned he didn't play every single year. But it's like ten years. Yeah. It it's been a long time since he's been a worke legis that and there's just there's almost like almost no excuse for it. You know? Like now, I think it's just being it's like, maybe it's the lawsuits fault or owners are just stubborn just on what cabernet stands for in theory. But I don't know. I just think there's a lot of issues that coaches owners don't want the quote, unquote, headache of the of of con- cabinet because of his kneeling for the national anthem and all this other controversies and also you got also think about how the fans will react in that might lead to some bad things. Who knows? Yeah. I think the af like I get it. They don't wanna pay him them much money. But if if they were concerned about the viability of this league, it might be beneficial because people would watch man, we would all watch Colin cabernet, play good or bad. Whether we want him to fail. Whether we want him to succeed. We would we would watch it for him. There's no benefit playing for seventy five thousand dollars. He's he has millions of dollars like the guy. Has made a lot of money and this playing football. That's true in the fact is why are you going to put your body at risk for seventy five thousand dollars when you already have that much money in the Bank. Now, some of these guys that make sense because they're up and coming players. They're looking to make a name for themselves. They're they're looking to do this as a career so putting their body on the line putting their health on the line makes somewhat of more sense for them. There's better reward there for them for capper, Nick, KOMO, man. Seventy five thousand dollars doing anything for him. He's got plenty in the Bank as right now. So he doesn't need it. You said earlier if he does well, it's not going to all of a sudden leapfrog him into an NFL quarterback. Like nobody's going to be like, well, Colin Kaepernick, really doing a number of the San Antonio commanders. We're really going to we're going to sign him to one year ten million dollar deal. That's not happening. You know in the NFL. So he's on the NFL for politics. We end this, you know, or bad, right or wrong. No matter what you feel doesn't matter. If you me or anybody. Anybody listening feels that he is right or wrong. The fact is he's not in the NFL Duda. Politics, period. He's better than a lot of quarterbacks. He's certainly could be a starter for a couple of teams at least he's not because he's not good enough for maybe teams to put up with the off field stuff the distraction. I totally understand that. But at the same time what he does in the AFC will not matter if he fails if he's terrible than his chance of playing fill is done completely. If he's great. I don't think it moves the needle at all. What do you think? I agree with you. And with that, I think more along the lines of just like if he is pay that twenty million dollars to see if I feel like the players part of the af would have a serious issue with too. And that's not a way to start. Your league is have your player. On happy. Right. Well, yeah. You know in the af all players are scheduled make seventy five thousand dollars a year. But you know, sometimes you gotta break the rules to sustain a viable league. What if this league goes under after your one, it's possible? I totally I looks good right now. But it's only week one freshman, I totally get that. But I think just like it's too early to cross that line. You made just recently, you know. Yeah. Now, I get it. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I think. Let's be honest. If capper Nick was playing in the af this weekend, we would be we might already watch gamer too because. -joyed the first week. But like, we would watch it even more like this this weekend of cabernet was playing you would like make it a point to like find out what time and make it a point to at least check it out. At least it would definitely be something. Everyone be super interested in. So that's definitely how that works. So it's it's it's a very what's what I'm looking for. It's a very you're in a rough place in this situation because you're so early in your in your B's existence. You really don't want to. Takes people off or make the Ron decision to early because that could kill you right away. Maybe it'll be something that the af revisits down the road. Oh one hundred percent. I think in the next year or two if cabinet still looking for ratings are terrible this weekend. Then they might go into panic and like maybe two or three weeks in a row where the rain because we know the ratings were really good last week. But that was also because it was new now the question is for the af thing they were there being praised a lot last week not just beyond rating, but like just people to people. So I think I think this is going to be fine as well. But I think if it does get to a low point word series like maybe there's a serious problem. Then maybe they do their candidate capper, Nick and get like stars. Here's the thing. I've seen this. I've seen people say it's not the same as the NFL's getting off course it is. We know that. But that doesn't mean people can enjoy themselves. You know, like there are TV shows that you like that are not as good as other TV shows that you when people are saying, it's not the NFL not going to watch. It's on his good, then they're ignorant. He no. It's also the NFL college football. We love it. But regardless it's just like you're comparing somebody's listening to us right now. Jeff. And it was like that's not true college football's way, better than the NFL. You know, like the real diehard college heads what really angers me about that is just like they're so ignorant about how they think the af is so insignificant compared the NFL it is it's true. But it's not supposed to be something better than the NFL. They've already said they're developmentally to get to the NFL. So just watch it. It's like watching call it. It's exactly like watching football the talent, maybe a little worse. But there's some players there are some players that can be greater and get a shot into the NFL. That's what it's for. It's for second chances mostly. Yeah. No for sure, you know, it is funny though, when people say stuff like that. Well, it's not as good like who cares? Like, you know, what else is not as good like you don't watch bad movies because he think they're good. You watch him be as your Enertainment. How bad they are. I I'm not comparing like out there bad. I'm not saying. That is terrible. But I'm saying also not as good pizza, but you can like both. Yeah. Exactly. And sometimes something doesn't taste very good. But it's good for you. There just got real pissed off to somebody's like love. Loves on you, how could you say that how could he put lasagna behind pizza? Should we just get fire? Should we just leave right now? I think we just got fired. Hotdogs are discussing though, I won't I won't back down. He's me in certain situations. Delicious, sir. So so they can taste good. But it's still discussing you know, what I mean? Oh, what they're actually made up, of course. But I'm still eating. It's like probably the worst person. I'm just I'm just eating like I'm eating like, mainly like eggs fruits vegetables at the moment. So if you. So okay. I know this is going off topic. But I've never understood our cultures love of hot dogs. Like, I've never understood hamburgers are great hamburgers. Barbecue some hot dogs tastes unreal. There are other sausages. That are pretty good. Yeah. You got a point. Now, I'm hungry. Thank you for this. But regardless I think it's one of those things where we says good polish. It's an American. It's like when you think of America hotdogs, kind of go hand in hand now. So that's how it kinda got Aircon is firm, Germany. Well, it's now the hot dog sausage is probably the me. Yeah. That's that's Germany. But. Citerne, but the term, but the term hotdog is like American thing. I get so we bastardized the hot dog. Yeah. I guess so. But regardless it's still delicious. If you as a hundred people do they like hotdogs, I'm gonna say ninety six say, yes. Uh-huh. Ninety six. No. I know. So maybe we'll do. I got dogs giving. Well, you are not friends with good people. I'm I. I'm totally getting I I have no idea. You're right, man. I'm friends with great. But. Good way to say that. But I think it's one of the long lines of just like, okay? Ask one hundred football fans ninety six say they like hotdogs. I'd say ninety six hamburgers. I hate the word hamburger, by the way. Cheeseburger sounds much Hamburg, man. I know, but she's burger sons lot more appetizing than hamburger to me. It's the same thing. Just want us cheese on it. But it's still a hamburger at the honestly cheese makes it so much better. Honestly as plain hamburger by itself is not very good to me to be honest with you. All right. Well, it's a plain hamburger playing hot dog. What do you eat? And I mean a plane high hotdog love plane hotdog, you would I honestly I don't really like with that kind of dude. Like, you're that kind of dude the guy that would eat a plain hot dog over a plane anger. I don't I don't see. I don't really like to catch up in mustard on my hot dog. But if I had to I'm saying, I had you I sometimes put on I sometimes, but muster on it. But I'm very okay with that. A hot dog is. Decent enough to eat is. We've been told me about this. I think we're fifteen minutes, but you gotta have Brown mustard. And onions to do it, right. Catch up on a hog discussing. That's all I'm gonna say some people like I understand what are people catching macaroni and cheese too. And that's what. Yeah. Who Patrick Mahomes? Did he he said he said, I think I think he's a catch up on everything to catch. It was gross. Who who do you know that puts catch up on MAC and cheese? I'll be the first one to catch up is disgusting. But tell me who's the one that puts catch MAC and cheese fun fact that can you better you're avoiding the question who is who is this horrible union mineral, you tell me who does more sugar in a tease tablespoon of ketchup. Then there is an entire chocolate chip, you're still avoiding my question who is this person that eats MAC and cheese with catch a lot of people that do what do you mean? There's not one person I know in the world that does that who is terrible personal people in sports that have come out. And so that they've done it. But there's a million there's millions of people that like, well, they don't deserve to images ever again. That's just terrible. Yeah. That's pretty bad. I don't know. Why people like things they do they do. So we should go to break. I'm offended right now. Well, we come back. We're talk a little bit more about the af. This weekend, Adam silver, possibly becoming the NFL's next Commissioner and much more in football. All right. 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However, you wanna put it and my question to you Mark is is a bad thing for the Broncos to release of etter or linebacker like that a leader on the defensive side. He's a good player. But he's a leader though. That's the main thing. Sure, I think a lot of acid. I mean, he had comments recently like towards the end of the season. I think I think it was after the last game where he said that things haven't been right. What the organization last couple of years. So that probably has something do that to be best for both parties apart ways. But yeah, he's he's a loss. Like, he's a good player going like player. I don't think he's one of their top four or five defensive players. But I mean, he'll be missed like they'll have to replace him. I think he's going to be a big commodity in the off season free agent market. You know, I'm not. Sure what the linebacker market is. So you could be right. I'm not really sure how what they tell is. I think some just need a veteran linebacker leader type of position. So I think you'll be a great fit for most most leagues for most teams. Yeah. No. I mean, look the guy's a decent football player. Like don't get me wrong. He's he's definitely I would say he's better than average. I don't know how good he is to be honest with you. I wouldn't say he's a great player. He is getting a little bit older. But no, he could be a decent. Pickup depends on the team. But I do think you'd be good player. Absolutely. I think is a ton of potential to help a team out in a win. Now kind of situation. So that's how I tell see at least. But regardless this is a big I think the bears earth base giving the Broncos Brandon Marshall went to college down the road. From us. He went to you. And our did he really interesting anyways, what we were talking about right now is Brandon Marshall, and I feel like the Broncos. There's Don looking good in this situation. Maybe he's leaving at the right time. Yeah, they're defensive like it could still be legit. You knows man. I'm not big on this team right now. Joe flacco Zor starting quarterback next year as soon as seeing Joe flacco. I don't see them getting near the AFC west, especially with the chargers and the cheese how they're playing this added to a fact like this team is not gonna win Brennan Marshall. He was hurt a lot this year. He only played in seven games. He had forty two tackles. He did have a fumble force recovered or a had one pass defense. No sack. So I mean, he doesn't really he's not really a playmaker. He has two picks and his career. He's only forced four fumbles and eight years, not very seventy. He's more just of a leader. That's how I see him. He's he he just knows how to hype team up in just over one hundred thirteen three times once in the last three years. So it might be best for the Broncos actually to partways them. But I wanna talk about the Steelers are in the news. The Steelers are expected to use a transition tag on on Bill. Yeah. What do you think about that? Now the transition tags. A tool is basically a restricted free agent. It it basically gives us dealers the right of I refer refusal. So if a refusal explain explain that for the fans, so if a team offers bell contract doers combat you. Yeah. Yeah. No matter what I'm go, which I can only use the transition TEK once a year on one player. I don't know why they would use Livia, and it sounds like Levy wants to go. I think maybe if they if a team gives them a reasonable contract that they'll match it. But if it's a outlandish contract in the let them go, I still think it's time to let them go or it's going, but what if the market actually was not that great for Beleza say, we don't know why let's say it was and gave him like four years twenty five million dollars. The the serious oh for that amount of money. We'd love to have him. So he has a sign that contract in theory. If they he's I offer. I don't think any reject that. I don't believe he has to sign it till he can reject that still and look for other options. Yeah. He doesn't have to sign it. I'm just saying like, maybe the market if it doesn't turn out the way the way the thing is there's no lose for the Steelers here because they're not gonna use it transition tag on any of their other players. So it's not like if you use it once a year, you either user loses. So. There's no there's no I guess risk for the Steelers and using it. Okay. Makes we'll see what happens right? If they use a franchise tag out. It'd be like okay now, you're just go that won't happen, obviously. But they will definitely use. It sounds like not definitely. But it sounds like they are going to tag him. Obviously, none of this stuff can be official until the league year starts. So like, even the flacco trade is all they can that cannot happen. I mean that could actually just be taken back because they're still a month away before that could be. Yeah. Absolutely. And this is just continuation of the drama that is the Steelers at the moment like some ice. Also make a joke saying there, this is like the days of our Steelers like a soap opera. Yeah. I thought that was very clever because that's basically how this is going like there's nothing extremely exciting like non exciting. But just like everything is going as a drama not. Everyone's at odds is their love their secretly who knows? But it's just like, you know, what though this is part of the reason why everybody loves the NFL because it's in our face all the time. And even the off season is fun. Like, we have so much talk about the NFL, and we are legitimately. Jeff right now is the most dead period of the NFL off see en Marche. Still not dead. We absolutely. But March thirteenth is where everything's just get a hit the fan right away. It's gonna be insane. Even before that because the tampering windows open. You can talk to ECOMOG, oh, she it contracts, and this feel like it's like tampering window sounds a little suspicious in theory. Hampering went up because you're it's a legal tampering. I know. But it just sounds like it's like something legal though. Yeah. I mean, that's when it comes to me. That's how it associated with you know, team eagle bring it so. Yeah. Okay. But obviously, it's not because it's a free window. It's like fraud. There's good notice kidding anyways. Adam silver. There are rumors that some NFL owners have reached out to Adam silver to discuss or at least talk about his interest and possibly being the Commissioner of the NFL switching over from the NBA. Now, this is super preliminary. In fact, Adam silver said he has not even thought about that. But what are your thoughts about that? Would do you think that Adam silver would be a welcomed addition to the NFL? I think so I think anyone would have picked Roger Goodell or anyone over Roddick Goodell because he's that disliked. So honestly, like if we got let's say who's who's like hated in in in the world right now. Who's like, okay. How about this? Who's the guy? That's what was it Kuopio l l l Chapo. That's right handsome. I don't know that actually if El Chapo was ability to be commissioned people like let's see what he can do just want besides Roger Goodell. That's how I think putting prison for good. That's my point. That's how much disliked Goodell is in the world of football world. You know, I think Kevin Durant might be more like as a Commissioner of the NFL. Yeah. You know? Everybody hates dill. I personally think he's kind of a scapegoat like. I feel like he's in a lose lose position a lot. But he also doesn't really help himself out. So just says the wrong things at the wrong over is pretty much universally loved. He's just laid back. He knows fans like not that. But he's also progressive in terms of like the NBA did not shy away from gambling. They got involved draftkings right away. Like, the NFL is a little bit more rigid. When it came to that, the NBA just seems like they're open to different ideas. Plus, the NBA has just been crushing it the last couple years. I mean, National Basketball Association is getting closer and closer the NFL in terms of popularity money. And all that it's not it's not the same. It's not there yet. But it certainly has surpassed major league baseball. It's certainly has distanced itself from the other main sports in this country as the number two sport behind football still going up. The trajectory is still up for basketball. The game keeps getting more and more painted helped the Super Bowl was so. A letdown. Yeah. And it just says it is what it is. I mean, I know people hate the warriors and hate that whatever. But there are draw they draw people to the game the game has been growing. It's been growing. It's been growing internationally the NFL. We know the NFL wants to grow internationally. That's a big thing for the NFL why they play in one day, and it's why they play in Mexico City, and Adam silver might be the right guy to be that ambassador. He might be the guy to be the NFL's ambassador to Europe to other markets where the NFL is really looking to extend into. So it's I think it's a good idea if I'm out him silver. I listen, obviously because I think his pay would be increased quite a bit. I don't know what that would look like. But man, money talks, right, y'all, absolutely. And that's all about money money money money money money money money money money. And if Adam silver were to be the new Commissioner of the NFL, I think everyone would be onboard with it though. Right. Right. All right. We should probably take a break. And we come back. We're gonna talk about a story regarding the a sec leader. And why he will not be invited to the combine. It's a good discussion to have. 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There's just one show to checkout GMC podcast dot com. Backslash M E dash podcast. Don't forget to among Facebook could follow them on Twitter. Visit. I'm seeing podcasts dot com for more info. Hello, everyone and welcome back to the GMC sports podcast finishing up a day with some news about the sec later in NCWA. So let's go with this. This is your new story. Mark go for Jalen for in. He is the NC double a sec leader. He will not be allowed to attend the NFL. Combine in the reason is is because he got charged and convicted for a simple battery charge when he was a freshman in college. Okay. I just maybe don't call. It a simple battery what it's called. Oh, okay. I thought you were. Okay, continue. I'm being literal. Okay. Granted I just wanted to make sure so people can get the wrong idea. Yeah. Because there's there's a lot of different battery charges and some of them are misdemeanor. Some of them are. Felonies and so on and so forth. So. He will not be. He will not be allowed to attend the combine he is the all time, incidentally, sack leader believing all time. That's number five the number five defensive on milk. Hyper is big board. Only number five. Well, he he played at Louisiana tech. So. That makes sense. So he got in a fight in two thousand fifteen McDonald's he paid one hundred eighty nine dollar fine. And that is what's keeping him out. Now. I understand that the NFL does have rules about conduct. In fact, if you've been involved in domestic violence or anything like that, you're not allowed to tend to combine. But I'm not sure if I've seen this before somebody was banned for for a small conviction like this. I mean, the penalty was one hundred ninety dollars fine. Like, he didn't he literally didn't have to go to jail. He got convicted of a misdemeanor. What are your thoughts about this? Do you think the NFL is screwing this up speaking of Roger Goodell. And that's where our point is made like you talked about Roger Goodell's a scapegoat in. This is probably do you think this is his ruling though at the end of the day. I'm not sure is that this is a gray area in that situation. Gymnast? Sure. But do you know what the actual incident was that caused the battery charge? He got in a fight McDonald's. That's all that's reported. He probably punched somebody and got arrested. He's football player. So probably probably hit somebody pretty hard and. Yeah. Okay. Understandable, just based off the charge. But there's been way worse incidences. I hate I hate to use this as an example because affects only people use it. But like he wasn't. He was allowed. And he did go to the senior bowl. And he was asked by many teams about the incident, and he was very open about it very open about it. But basically, what happened is the NFL just found out about it. But he's been talking about it. Right. But the the league just found out like, you know, the people impound just found out. Well, they should be a little more insight to. Bitte inside of about it. So here here's kind of the crappy thing about this. So at the combine, you know, what the combine was originally meant for was for players to meet in one area around the country to do to go through the medical stuff to go through the physical stuff right now. Any teams are interested in him. We'll have to go fly him from city to city or go to him to. I guess get him medically cleared have them go see their doctors have them. Go do whatever. So seems like a big issue. Let seems more of a hassle than anything else in theory. And of course, if they want to see him do some of the drills are going to have to do it off site that can be accomplished with the day to say like so he's going to be eligible for pro days. This is like I mean, this is kind of like a conversation is this fair fell by the NFL. Like, the fact that he's been talking about this and been very open about it and not hiding it, and knowing he made a mistake shows a lot of character my mind about it like he owns up to it. I mean that just shows that he's mature about it. And it happened four years ago and it happened for years ago. Obviously, he's matured by that stupid stuff where teen years old, right? And it seems like he's being very mature about it. Look, I'm not sitting here saying like. We've all been charged battery before we have like. Like in the grand scheme of things him getting physical with somebody. When he was eighteen years old. And it wasn't a woman. We've all gotten stupid fight. It wasn't a woman. It wasn't like a morality thing here. Like we're talking about fight. We don't know what happened. It could have been over a cheeseburger. I have no clue, but the fact is that he's he got convicted of a crime where he paid one hundred and ninety dollar fine didn't serve any time in jail any owned up. Not that big of a deal. Yes, he committed a crime a misdemeanor four years ago. Eighteen years old when you're eighteen year brains on you fully function, come on just scientifically speaking, and look man, if you woulda hit a woman or something happen like that, you know. It was all things like that. That's completely different in my opinion. Absolutely. But hey, I think the NFL really screwed up. You know, what you know? I also believe the NFL screwed this up because who is punishing is pushing him or is it punishing all the teams that drafted him. Because all these teams hurts. This. This hurts him more than anyone else. Because what what? So it's gonna be a gamble of the teams are good actually risk. The fact to bring them all the way to them to talk to them approach as like affects his Vic. I don't know if he will drop in the draft because of this. I don't think so either, but it's still it's like, it sounds kind of like unnecessary. It makes it a pain in the butt for teams ago. Like one that could that could hurt him in the long run. Yeah. It could possibly hurt him. Give me some teams like we're not gonna pay to having come over. We're talking about a guy who's a number five defensive end on on Kuyper big board. He's a top ten defensive end on on almost every big board. Also, he is the all time NCWA sack leader. Now, we're not talking about a guy who might be drafted. This guy's probably gonna get picked in the second or third around. This guy is probably going to be you can even argue. He could've gone the first round. I mean, number five defensive end in a heavy defensive address. Yeah. Exactly. When you're number five on the the biggest position pits position. Yeah. Sure. You're definitely going to get picked like maybe not top ten, of course. But like top twenty that's not too far off fifteen to twenty overall. That's probably where he's gonna end up in my opinion. Just let this terrible. But this probably will end up him being like the first pick in the second round in theory. Because of the fact like he's kinda getting the short end of the stick on this one. And I think this is a this, obviously, he did get arrested and all this yet. You're right. He did pay a fine. I understand both sides of the story to be honest with you just based off like just criminal actions. But what the NFL has done is a little is a little much. So Todd Grantham is the defensive coordinator Florida university university of Florida, but he was offered the Bengals defensive coordinator position. Which would have obviously seen him coaching the NFL plus give him a boost and salary. He decides to stay is this a blow for Zack Taylor and the Cincinnati Bengals considering that defense coordinator in caller said no to approach. Oh, that would've paid him a few million dollars more. It sounds that. Just sounds very bangles thing. You know? That's like how bad the Bengals are that guy. Doesn't want a couple extra million dollars part of that organization. University of Florida did raise this hour to one point eight million. But he would have done what four or five arguably it was a multi-million offer to become the Bengals defensive coordinator. So yes, so yeah, it's it's basically I think he's looking how bad the Bengals are looking for the future doesn't want to be a part of it. He had that. You think that says something about the team the state of the team, right? Oh one hundred percent. Yeah. It is. They're called their nickname is the bungles stand it when it's like an NFL head or an NCW head coach Nick Sabin or Davos, only I get why they wouldn't wanna go the pros because they get so much money where they're at now. And they're like the king of the castle when you're a DC in college gotta think being a DC in the pros at Penn on team. That was good this year either. Right. So that's a bold move on his part. Maybe he has relationship, but the coach and the players he doesn't want to let go, which is understandable as well. But also, it's like there's gotta be something. He doesn't see in Cincinnati wants to go to. It's gone to that point. Hey, what's on the schedule for week two? Well, we got the same game says we had before games, right? There's eighteen I think there's some there's an undefeated guy teams to a game between two undefeated teams so remain yet. That game is the Orlando Apollo's at the San Antonio commanders. That's on Sunday Saturday, though, we got the Salt Lake stallions at Birmingham iron the iron seven point favorite. We got the hot shots from Arizona at Memphis express. Well, point favorites bid. Under one God completely shut. I didn't score a point. The other is supposedly the favorites to win the championship. And Mike single Terry's day other than the Apollo's in the commanders the legends are at the San Diego fleet in the fleet or a nine and a half point favorite that seems like a lot. Gif? We didn't score last week. That that's they zero or did. I thought they had zero didn't they put that really low scoring. They had six only one team had zero. Gotcha. And that was thirteen six or something like that. Yes. It was six points. Memphis was the only one that's worth zero points if I'm not mistaken, the Memphis express. Which is not a good start for complete season or first season as a as a team. So that's just how that works. Yeah. And. But overall, I am speaking. Oh, I had a lot of fun last week NBA all star weekend, though, is really the only other thing on. I I had I had a I had a lot of fun watching the games last week. I really enjoyed myself typically honest with you, so I'm definitely gonna watch this week. So the yeah, the hotshots beat the stallions thirty eight twenty two the iron beat the express twenty-six to nothing. The Apollo's beat the legends forty two six commanders beat the fleet fifteen to six so. Yeah. Maybe we're gonna see who's the best team between the Apollo's and who's at Birmingham or maybe the hotshots of stake another claim and maybe they're the best team. So far though the best around. We don't know about that score that ten points. So giving up ten points if you're the fleet. I don't even know if they can score ten points. You know, we haven't seen it. It's been one week. I know the phone I know and their offense was brutal. Absolutely brutal. So yeah. That might be a little easy making money Trump Trump proposition. Oh, I got really got what are you talking about? But I get what you're saying. Anyways. I think that's if our show. Yes. Thank you so much for joining us everybody. Please Tunis in on Monday. 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'This Dude's A Baller': The Rise Of Robby Anderson

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'This Dude's A Baller': The Rise Of Robby Anderson

"In The Carolina Panthers made a ton of changes this past off season new head coach, new quarterback, new offensive coordinator, and they also have a new number, one wide receiver who is currently second in the League in receiving. Talk. Focused and that. Is He. Different. Software Digest. Today the Athletics Joe Person On the reasons behind Robbie Henderson's breakout. It feels like this is kind of a sea. In his career and how he's being used and how he still benefiting from a friendship with former teammate Brandon Marshall and. He's home. Still Call. ME. Big Bro. What can I do? From wondering I'm the athletic I'm Kabaeva Davidson and I'm under skeletal. It's Thursday October twenty second and this is the league. It felt like something was happening. There is something of emotion. Don't matter because. Pam Seen. This isn't a story here. The athlete. It stays with you. So Joe One of the panthers big off season moves was signing wide receiver Robbie Anderson to a big contract free agent wide receiver Robbie Anderson is leaving the jets. This were a two year, twenty, million dollars deal with Carolina as well. He'll reunite with former coach at temple. Matt. Rule and if you weeks ago when Broncos Anderson's reputation as a player coming over from the jets, he was viewed as kind of a one trick pony if you will and it was a good trick, it was speed. I remember covering a game at the meadowlands a few years ago he had a couple of these signature loans. Bombs. But I remember Robbie Anderson getting behind the Panthers Secondary and catching the football. Toward the end zone, they're sitting double coverage. Shot. But that was about all he was doing in New York six games into his panthers career. Andersen looked so far very good i. mean he's second in the League Bon De'andre Hopkins in receiving yards he's in the top five catches and he's going over the middle more. Little inside the twenty yard line is complete in another time out is. Robbie Anderson with another catch if you look at him, you can sort of see why some offense coordinators didn't want to take them over the middle i. mean he is something like six foot three they list him at one hundred ninety pounds Matt Rule said Kinda Sorta conversationally last week something about Robbie Anderson one seventy or one eighty it's like, wow and. sometimes, you just think he's just gonNA break, but he is held up on those routes so far. Down it's one yard line and the nineteen. Bridgewater's quickly fighting a favorite target and Robbie Anderson and he has looked none the worse for wear. Let's talk about his personality for a minute. There was a video earlier this season where Robbie Anderson was miked up and he seemed a little confused at the Panthers Mascot. Serve per per Call. Server. Is that Robbie Anderson in a nutshell? It really is. He's got a fun of be goofy personality. I think Brandon. Marshall who I talked to the former bears, jets receivers with Robbie, of course in New York. He said Robin Anderson kind of has his own language the way he I mean he has his own way of talking. Allergy wayward. Breezes. Awesome his teammates as said, it's just a fun personality albeit a little eccentric Ravi trip sometimes. Probably look different but that's what make Robbie as just kind of who he is. I don't know if you WANNA call him flaky, but it's fun. We'll show you looked into Robbie Anderson's rise as a player and you talk to him recently, what did he tell you about when he came into the League as an undrafted free agent from ten ball as an undrafted guy he did have his choice of teams where he could go to I think might have been a couple two or three wasn't like everybody was talking is door but he liked the jets in part because he had gotten to know Brandon Marshall before the draft. No. No. loopy. Go. Brandon Marshall said that Anderson at one of the very first scrimmages went up for a ball in the end zone and there was a jump ball and there was two guys on me just went up and he just put the ball out of the air like he was Larry Fitzgerald and did away ease, and then he came down ran into the endzone toss the ball with so much swagger as a rookie and I said, holy, crap I said this do right here the baller again, this wasn't a first round pick. This was a guy that went seven rounds without being drafted. Marshall like that talent and the swag had to really grabbed Robbie and callum he just wanted to run as like urine as as in. As little bridge. We need to make sure that your lifting weights and you're taking care of your body because I knew the talent was new attitude. was there I knew what was there and for me the biggest thing rugby is, how are you GonNa last you know ten fifteen years. That's what you WANNA. Do they were both pretty impressed with one another and Anderson thought he could be a complete receiver even though he wasn't being used as such that first year with the jets so Clearly, had the talent during his time with the jets. Why didn't he break out while he was playing for? New York I think there was a maturity factor football has always been important to him but he in our interview, he alluded to the fact that he wanted to surround himself with people that he trusted people who were not fake and he really believed to have his best interest at heart. You know that people. Care about you people that don't say that true don't really care about you. Like what you WanNa hear that it sounded to me like he was not always around those types of friends and part of the problem was during his four years with the jets. The jets had four different offense, a coordinators. He also played with three different quarterbacks with the jets that is tough on any player to try to develop under those circumstances and I just think at some point, it became easier for those coaches digest, slot him into the as I said the kind of deep threat mode and not try to develop him as a complete receiver, and frankly some of it should fall on on Anderson to I think he was a little. Raw coming in as an undrafted guy out of temple, and so he had to develop to but some tough circumstances in New York was there a moment where it was clear that things were going to be different for Robbie Anderson in Carolina right off the bat even in training camp and I know it was a weird training camp there were no preseason games, but there seem to be a real rapport between Teddy Bridgewater, the new quarterback who has a relationship with from south Florida and during quarantine even though they probably weren't supposed to doing this, they would get together at various athletic fields down in the Miami area and throw to each other. What bridgewater had said to us recently that he made sure to put. Robbie. Anderson. Line him up in different spots on the field not just have him out wide where he played with the jets. brought him into the slot and that was a big deal early on. 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Brady of course, was a very low level assistant with the saints under Sean Payton goes to Lsu, for one season as the passing game coordinator and of course, that one season coincided with Joe. Borough winning the heisman. Trophy. And lsu winning the National Championship. So Joe Brady gets hired here to run MATT rules offense. He did not have a relationship with Robbie Anderson and when they're evaluating free agent free agent wide receivers specifically Matt Rule said he vouched for Anderson to Joe Brady and so it took that support of rule, but it also took the vision of Joe Brady you see a player of Robbie's caliber how fast he is. See know that? Obviously, if you just get the ball in his hands, you know great things happen. But when you watch when you watch Robbie run routes and you watch him go up for the football, you realize how great ball skills he has. Shown across. It's really a shell across is no different than running ago just going horizontally Brandon Marshall is retired. Now, what is his relationship like with Robbie Anderson these days very much like a mentor to this day Robbie Anderson gets a phone call at least one a week with Brandon Marshal critiquing how he played Sunday, and it's it's honest. It's an honest appraisal. It is not like, Hey, man, you were awesome if Brandon Marshall Sell things in that game, he didn't like he tells Anderson that. Thing that I love about him is that he's humble. He had all of that swagger instill calls me and says, big Bro. What are you seeing? What can I do and and that special because a lot of guys who'd be surprised they get to this point and they think they've made it they. Know it all and I can call Robbie right now and I can say what the hell are you doing and it's not by the way just on the field he told him this year he was seeing Anderson Post a bunch of pictures on instagram. He said you're too worried about your wardrobe. was like a damn new outfit and I said man routine. You're in the midst of training camp with the new team forget the wardrobe concentrate on football looking at the whole picture here. Do you think robbing Anderson's success is sustainable? Is he going to revert back to just being the deep threat? What do you think is the term for Robbie Anderson S A great question and it feels like it's sustainable but I am curious to see now that kind of the secret is out if you will we saw it a little bit with Chicago. Last week he kinda got off to a slow start. Pass intended for rugby. Anderson Jalen. Johnson defending and I think it was because Chicago at seen five weeks worth of tape and they said we're GonNa roll our coverage and put some extra people on Robbie Anderson side and we'll let somebody else And you're thinking maybe this is going to be the Game Rob Anderson has like two catches for eleven yards, well, Lo and behold hands up catching two. Passes one on a terrific catch where he laid out for the football. Robert. Bears territory. Forty eight yards biggest play of the day hot either side. I am curious to see how defenses and defensive coordinator start attacking Robbie Anderson is it a deal where they say if we hit this guy over the middle enough times legally is he gonNA WANNA stop coming over the middle and getting drilled. A fair question because he just hasn't done it over the course of sixteen games season but certainly through six games, it feels like this is kind of a sea-change in his career and how he's being used to finally Joe. The panthers are three and three heading into a big match up this weekend against the Saints Teddy's old team does this team have the weapons to stay competitive in the NFC south? I think they're going to be competitive. -sarily going to be in the playoff hunt but with the expanded playoffs this year with Co bid and an extra team in each conference getting in. They might a lot of teams might kind of hang around. Getting Christian McCaffrey back is going to hell and that's going to be another week or two but the questions in the concerns for the panthers I think are on the defensive side of the football. I'm just not sure how they're going to hold up when they have to face drew brees two more times they go to green bay and have to face Aaron Rodgers say go to Kansas City and have to face Patrick Mahomes. Top chess ahead I think if they hang around five hundred in that rules first season head coach, it will have been a success. Thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate you have in me. Joe Person Story About Robbie Anderson and follow his coverage of the Carolina Panthers at the Athletic Dot Com. From wondering and the athletic I'm can beat the Davidson see tomorrow. 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Into Protest and the NFL

Into America

31:08 min | 1 year ago

Into Protest and the NFL

"Owners? Yes I'll continue to sit I'm continue senior to stand with the people that are being oppressed to me. This is something that has to change and when their significant change and I feel like that flag represents was supposed to represent in this country is representing people. The weight as opposed to I'll stand specific. Change in. One specifically is police brutality. There's people being murdered unjustly and not being held accountable. By anyone's standards. It's been almost four years, NFL. quarterback Colin Kaepernick began a peaceful protest against police, brutality and racial injustice. At first sitting and then kneeling when the national anthem play during games last week in the middle of a nationwide movement against racism and the police killing of George Floyd, the debate around protests and football came up again. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country. That was drew brees superstar quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. And when I look at the the flag of the United States, I envisioned my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War Two. Breeze is a white quarterback in a League where seventy percent of the players are black. Most of the coaches are white, and almost every single team owners also white. For many players, including breezes, own teammates like safety Malcolm Jenkins. His comments were disappointing. You don't understand history and why people like me. People with my skin color whose grandfather fought for this country who served and still protested against that against the not against the national anthem, but against what was happening in America I'm telling you. My community is dealing with these things. And your response to me is. Don't talk about that here. This is not the place. where the place drew. brees walked back what he said. It made multiple apologies. Hurt many people. especially. Friends, teammates. I wish. I would have laid out what was on my heart. In regards to the George Ford murder. Ahmad Aubrey. The years and years of social injustice police brutality. And the need for so much. Reform and change, but the anger and frustration sparked by the moment blade by black players provoked a response from the League we the National Football League emit. We were wrong for not listening. NFL players earlier. And encourage all speak out in peace protests. That was NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in video statement last week. Pretty stunning admission from a league that band on kneeling in two thousand eighteen. Does. This mean the NFL and its fans are ready for change. I'm sure mainly. This is into America. I sat down with NFL Wide Receiver Brandon Marshall, a longtime player, and quite frankly one of the best I've ever seen. Play the game. We talked about his personal experience with these protests and what's changed inside the League since Colin. Kaepernick. I took a knee in two thousand sixteen. He thinks this time. It might be different. No one can push the NFL round. But Man. We're talking about this movement. Black lives matter. This is bigger than NFL. So we've gone through this before. Man, but something about this moment. Feels really different with George. Floyd's death is done the protests. What do you think it is about this moment that? We had a different response time. Yeah, I mean I heard everyone's answers in so educated and thoughtful. But as simple we're in quarantine. There's nothing else to do. You know there's nothing else to do and Everyone's on their phone There's nothing to watch isn't any NBA Games MLB Games? sows hate to say it this way, but the perfect storm. So. You don't think there's anything necessarily about this case that that resonates different people you think is just like the the confluence of of you know things right now is the perfect situation for people to really be able to pay attention from our perspective how? trayvon Martin scale was hunted. Scare was hunted, and the facts came out. We knew that and we did nothing about it. This has been going on forever, and it's one knows is one of those things that you know I'm dealing with? You know when when tapper nic took a knee, I couldn't figure out. Why didn't bother me as much as it day CAP. You know I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the poorest city in Pennsylvania, my father was the biggest drug dealer and the state. You know. I grew up seeing this every single day I was I grew up being taught. You know this is this is the way of life you know. People didn't have an option I came from you know with either dribble a basketball or sell drugs, right? That's how they felt so for me I, just feel that you know obviously technology Everyone's on their phones recording everything. We're seeing it more. So is the perfect storm, but these these. been going on. For years. Speaking of of going back for years, let's go back to two thousand sixteen the third preseason game and Colin Kaepernick who's a a quarterback for the San Francisco Forty Niners, he, I he sits down next week. He he kneels down. Do you remember when it first happened your reaction? I remember saying he's right. One of the things that's been happening for the past ten years. The NFL started something NFL started. Really leveraging their platform and I say I use that word intentionally. They started leveraging platform to do good and player. Start taking note so when cap. I sat and then he took a knee. All of us was like okay. This is caps this is this is his thing. And we all could relate to it right. But when it broke the way De. In, everybody start talking about it. I just remember thinking okay. There's GonNa be a thousand cameras in my face. What should I do? What should I say? And I was one of those guys that was more cautious, but the first thing I did is I went back and I literally left the locker room before the media came in start listening to Dr, Martin Luther King because I wanted to make sure that I was educated on top of my game when the cameras came in my face. Martin! Luther King did amazing job. Making sure that you know everyone to the table and what I mean by that is. He never once said he didn't. He never wants when against America. He's always said America was it amazing nation whether he believed that are not I. Don't know but I say that because if you WanNa get things done. You have to do away where everyone's at the table and. So I'm excited about the towns we're in. You know because we're talking about it. And You know we'll see what happens. In that moment I knew that this this topic was so much bigger than me. It was so much bigger than captain. It's real that I didn't want to say the wrong thing and also say that to the guys in the locker room. If you don't know what you're talking about, set the hello. I told him. If. If you need resources, please stand up in ass, but it's powerful. We don't need you guys standing up, just saying anything now we as a team, try to come together and figure out or we August to take a knee together or we all going to. Lock arms together and I think that's where we're GONNA JEFF at the time right hours at the. Jets Yup so big big platform, big stage and I think that's where a lot of players went wrong. A lot of teams went wrong, because as leaders were taught to bring a team together and limit distractions, so we try to do something together, but trying to bring bringing together eighty nine hundred men on the sidelines to do one thing is almost impossible. And that's why we can see the movement back then because we all weren't on the same page and I don't think we should have been on the same page I, think if we had fifty sixty seventy percent of the guys taken any, it would have been more impactful, but we needed to write guys. Not just you know a third stringer for stringer. Special teams, guys which I respect I started there, but we need it the superstars like myself. The Tom Brady's the days of the world that Antonio Brown's the Ben Rothlisberger of the world. Speaking of those players, you know, the League is seventy percent black. What was the response from your white teammates? Who may not understand because like you said a minute ago? Black might not be so well informed and articulate enough to kind of break it all down, but when it comes to those white players, who even though they're your teammates, they go to war with the field. They come from different worlds. What was that like? I do want to say this now. There's more people. There's more white athletes more white people that are. Standing up. It's almost like they're back against the war, and like you have to say something, it's now it's. It's not enough to say you're racist. You have to be antiracist. Right back then we had our. Our white community, our white brothers and sisters, but the issue was. They weren't saying that we were anti-racists and I think that's where the powers at so we you know. It was all over the place. We had some teammates. About the flag and passionate about you know doing things in a professional in there is in a professional manner. Then we had some guys you know like the the loans of the world where they stood up, and they were like this is wrong and they took a knee with our guys. So people were all over the place. In two thousand seventeen, the fall President Donald Trump came out and said you know called you guys. The guys who were kneeling SOB's and said you should be fired. Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners? When somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a bitch. OPT appealed right now out. Then we saw backlash from fans. What does it feel like when you have white fans? especially who are cheering you along love that you run fair catch a ball jump high hit a guy real hard to have them turn on black players so quickly when the impetus was there killing US industry? They're beating us and this is what the protests about. I can't speak for every guy in the locker room. But I think I can speak for the majority. it didn't take this. For us to know that. That's one of the things that we're saying like. We've been dealing with this forever. so we know it. You know you gotta think about it. You know when you go to when you're in college and you go to West Virginia to play the mountaineers or you go to. Virginia and you're planning against Marshall. You're probably GONNA get beer bottles thrown at you, so we hear these stories, so you know there's there's not there wasn't a big difference. We're just having a discussion. Does that take away from the experience. You work harder entire life. No, there isn't a huge difference. To, man. I mean I've been in Baltimore. have been in Kansas. City they're great fans, majority of them but I've been in Baltimore. City that similar to a place where I've grown up where I grew up. In Buffalo there's been there's been some times where those nfl fans have heard them. Call you know my my teammates or gown another team. You know I've been called out my name. You know it's just one of those things is just it's it's life. So. That's why when I when I say when Kat took that neo was kind of number. Two is because in our neighborhoods in how we're raised. There's an extra. There's an extra phase toward the development of a black kid. You know we have to learn how to survive. Our parents have to teachers how to survive. You're not a good black parent if you're not teaching your kids about. Police brutality. If you're not teaching your kids how to. Operate when you get pulled over like a lot of those discussions we we have when we are in elementary middle school. Right a lot of our teachers teachers that in-school. So. You Know I. Just think it's a way of life and for me. That's why I. Always go back to like Dang. It just didn't hit me as hard in really George Floyd when it's when I really start feeling for the first time. Because I'm like man I. I'm built to survive. I'm built and trained. To make it. You know I'm always prepared. You know, and now that I'm out of the NFL. I'm not in that institution anymore. I'm starting. I'm starting to feel for the first time in. It's really interesting because I'm trying to find you know I've always been outspoken person, but it's almost like outspoken in a box so now trying to find my voice outside of the NFL and how do I talk about these topics in deal with certain things and what I would say, this and I'll go. This may even go to like the drew brees discussion. Why are we getting mad when people stand up on their platform and and speak their truth. Like let let people speak their truth. Because now we know exactly who is who, and now we can have these we can use them as examples and have these conversations of this is what we're talking about. This is the privileged we're talking about. We can't get wrapped up in the heart of man. Now we need to use men and women as the example to show people like this is what we're talking about, but they believe what they believe. We need to change the system. That's what we need to change. We need to put our energy there anything outside of just using people's. tweets and instagram post are their statements. examples is a waste of energy. Because drew brees believing where he believes in his grandfather served this country. Great, thank you. He fought for freedom. Thank you so much, but this has nothing to do with this topic. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Hey It's Chris as this week on podcast. Wise is happening. I'll be talking with Jesse Wegmann about his new book about the Electoral College and its flaws called. Let the people pick the president. Wouldn't you think that a sixty to forty split in the popular vote would lead to a six four allocation of electors so just to be clear, the constitution says nothing. It is a essentially a blank check to do whatever they want. Want in allocating their electors, the state lawmakers can give the electors out themselves. They don't have to hold a popular vote. You have no right to vote for president. In the constitution, there is no constitutional right for you or I to vote for president. There isn't even a constitutional right for us to vote for electors. That's this week on. Wise is happening. Search for wise is happening wherever you're listening right now and subscribe. To Go to the moon, and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, I'm Chuck Ruse. On My podcast, the youth I speak with people who sacrifice for the common good who believe in collective responsibility who do things that are hard. Our conversations on the oath are thoughtful. Respectful essential. We bring these leaders and their struggles and successes to life this week. The oath returns with former secretary of Defense Panetta the toughest job I had was to sign deployment orders that placed the young men and women in uniform in harm's way. This season I will also be speaking with other accomplished than thoughtful leaders including former NASA astronaut Kathy Sullivan the highest ranking woman in the FBI. Amy Hess, former judge and United States Attorney Carol Lam and former surgeon general. Murthy there are fundamental core values around decency round kindness around compassion. It's part of our shared humanity. We are truly interdependent. We are stronger when we are together. Join me for season. Three of the oath and MSNBC podcast search for the oath wherever you're listening right now. Please subscribe new episodes everyone's Day. For, those that might not have been paying attention drew brees hall of fame level quarterback for the New Orleans Saints last week, told Yahoo News that quote that he will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United. States of America he also invoked the military services family members. The NFL has been responding to comments now in a way that has surprised many people. What do you make of the response now? Saying you know what we now realize that we should have. Have, allowed our players to speak. We now realize that it's not about the flag in the military. We now realize it. What do you make of this turnaround? There's no turnaround to me. This is this is this is what they're supposed to do. Because it's so much bigger than NFL. It's hard to be big in fell. There will never be a player bigger than the NFL. There will never be a team bigger than the. NFL, no one can push the NFL round. But Man. We're talking about this movement. Black lives matter this is bigger than the NFL. Sit like you said earlier. Seventy percent of the NFL is black is minorities. They have to have this discussion so the NFL the reason why they're so big and so powerful because they're so smart. So all the NFL is doing is getting ahead of it. The NFL doesn't want a guys kneeling. Why because that is speaking to the demographic? That is pain. They don't like that right, so they're trying to weather the storm now take their take their licks now so when the seasons start. There's no distractions now. We're back to being NFL so for me. It's I. Think if you're a public figure. If you're a company and you WANNA. Learn how to. Do Damage Control and play public relations like this is, this is one. Oh, one like watch the NFL right now yet. They got it wrong before, but right now they're getting ahead of it. They're doing a phenomenal job, right? It is what it is. But. This is a powerful moment and you know it's a conversation that needs to be had whether you're making a statement because it's. It's what you really believe or if you're making a statement because you, you have to do it, you know it's all going to help the cost so I'm glad that you know not only them, but there's other companies standing up and doing the right thing. I think it is amazing when you think about as you describe it this masterclass, because in two thousand eighteen, the NFL, ban players from kneeling, and now if commissioner Roger, Goodell is apologizing, but he said this. Without black players, there would be no national fully. Do you think the NFL changes after this, or do you think as you mentioned? It just goes back to that kind of plantation system after this is all over. The world can go back. You know it's like we talked about covert nineteen. We said that. We're forever changed behavior behavioral. This is the new norm. And I think the way we do. Business like people are really going to be able to. They're going to be held accountable because it's not just black people standing up this people are going to hold companies and individuals accountable the same way we have. Individuals account countable with the Metoo Movement, and you know women's right movement. Like! This thing is never going back there. He came. There's people around the world. Marching for black lives matter. And speaking of leadership. We saw this commercial last week. With a bunch of NFL, players saying you know I am. I am Brianna. Rice. And singing name someone who passed. That was very powerful. Do you think that this really is a pivot point for players finding their voices will? Yes, I do because I feel that back in two thousand sixteen. We were so afraid to be black, balled or actually cut. There was a lot of players that were cut Antonio Cromartie was cut dwayne Brown was traded from Houston seat to Seattle because he took a knee owner said you know we're not gonNA have the inmates running yard, right? Now this movement is so big so powerful that if you want to make a statement. If you want to talk about this, you know talk about black lives, matter or into it. You are free to do that so I just think that. This is the world we live in, and we just gotTA. Change our mentality and how we approach things. But I wonder once we're back to football, and once we're back the basketball. You have a lot of fans. White fans who say you're getting paid a lot of money. Shut up enjoyable. You know, keep the politics. I don't WanNa. Think about race on Sunday. I don't WanNa. Think about race on Monday night. Just catch the ball. You the hearts and souls of those fans will change, but we're also going to have other feigns finally standing up, saying no, you shut up. You shut up and watch right. So I. think that's the difference. I think I think that's the difference. Yeah, where we're going to have that pushback. We're going to have that tension, but the end of the day it's not going to be fans. Versus players is going to be good people versus bad people and. I think that's going to be the difference. A mental health has been something that you've been outspoken about and been an advocate for. and I wonder when you see the video of George. Floyd being killed when we see a Ahmad Aubrey jogging neighborhood and he's to white vigilantes. Put three bullets in. And we see that man fall, and we see this over and over again I. Wonder what you think that repeated exposure to that kind of trauma does to us. As Americans, but also as black people that black men is it? How do we wrestle with the stain? I'll say that those incidents leave on us. So. I was diagnosed with borderline personality, disorder and two thousand and eleven. I spent three months in an outpatient program. At Wa- found in Waltham Massachusetts. Mclean hospital number, two SEC yeah, trich hospital in the world. I spent thirty five thousand dollars a month to get the help that I needed that radically changed. My life transformed my life. There I realized that an out. There are realized that. You know the anger. The behavior issues and Just my mentality in my approach to life and the game. It wasn't a mental disorder. It was aetiology behind. It was my environment. That's what I realize so when we talk about their trauma. And growing up watching this or being a part of this being treated like this. That scars you for life. And we have a lot of work to do in our community. You know there's a lot of mental health worked at. We need to get done and get started. And when we think about it, we often don't have the language to talk about it. We don't have the tools, but it impacts the way we deal with each other as Blackman. especially the way we deal with black women. The way we deal with our families right I'm dealing with it now. And I've been advocating. For, this for ten years. And Right now. I'm angry. But what's interesting is I'm I'm sitting back and I'm watching. My response to my wife to my children, how short I am right and I'm like holy crap. Let me fix this 'cause I'm just I JUST WATCH MSNBC OR CNN and I just outreached right so. I think that it's not something that we have to pay close attention to. Because I was one of things that I was able to realize when I went when I was on that journey was. Literally after leaving a situation whether it's football, practice word watching something on television right away, our behavior can change. Our Moods can change in our response to the people that we do life with can change and I'm dealing with that right now because I haven't been this angry and a very long time. Moving into a new season with the NFL, what do you want to see from other players now specifically like the white players? As they're watching their teammates wrestle with all this stuff going on and struggle with it and see the news. What do you hope and expect for them? Well, yeah I. I think that there's some guys men we're talking about a billion dollar business multibillion dollar business with million dollar athletes. You're not going to have everyone. take a knee. We're not gonNA. Have everyone stand up right 'cause they're going to protect their nest. But I know for a fact that there's going to be the Ryan tenny hills of the world even drew brees of the world that are going to stand up and. The same fight that we've been fighting for years, so I just want those guys that I just want him to stay strong. I don't want them to burn out. Whatever, the movement is I want guys do together. That's what I want to see. If we're GONNA take knee. Let's take a knee together. If we're going to lock arms, lock arms together. If before the gain every game we're going to walk out in the middle of the field together with the opposing team and take a moment of silence. Let's do that. Let's let's put all black cleats on, and let's raise money for black lives matter you know we did a phenomenal job with raising awareness and money for for cancer and we've also done that the last five years of other charity. Let's take all entire week or two and dedicate that to raising awareness and raising money for our communities so. I just want guys. They just continue to go move forward. Have this discussion used a platform and then also? I will say this is well. Platforms are? Everything there's a lot of companies standing up saying that you know. We're donating one hundred thousand two hundred thousand dollars. That's nothing. We can't take that Bait. Is Not even as a drop in the bucket is just like that's. Just checking a box. US participate, let us. Let us! Sit at the table. Give us a job. Look at, US, look at our neighborhood used as moment to do good. Discussion that we have to have. It's probably the most uncomfortable conversation that you can. Have you know at home at work and we have to have it. One thing you said earlier in amount of you broke news or I missed the news. You said now that you're out of football. I'll let us live by us. Let me come back to that, are you? Are you done because you're a free agent officially. Now mayor you. Are you stepping away well until I? Catch another pass done until I'm built my company right. There's a few teams that want to move me inside in a slide, and they want to take a look at me at age backer tight in so there's some interest there. We'll see how things go into next month. I feel great. You know I've been working on always workout as part of my life and training. UH, so we'll see tight end Brandon Marshall made that might be. At eight th back, I'm going to say tight end tight end. You Got Block those big Julius Julius peppers of the world. Thank you so much for your time, man? You know NFL fan. I'm Eagles, Fan but I've watched your career. Man is one on the field. Obviously, we understand how proficient and prolific whereas a receiver, but I think more impressively. Is Your Redemption Story so I? Applaud you for that? You've had quite a journey. Yes, thank you so much. Brandon Marshall is a wide receiver and you heard it I may be a future tied in with played in the NFL for thirteen seasons. 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Seahawks/Patriots, Cowboys/Falcons, Drawing A Blank, AD's game-winning buzzer-beater

First Things First

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Seahawks/Patriots, Cowboys/Falcons, Drawing A Blank, AD's game-winning buzzer-beater

"Good. Monday morning everyone welcome at first things first I'm Jenna Wolfe alongside nick rights fresh off a brand new. Do Brandon Marshall already has gone. Still, rocking while I'm John Wall he looks good with that new. Here's buck. Oh, it was dangerously close for Nick Right with that cheats game this weekend. But what we had never made this Sunday football. Never, in. Nail. There was a number. Just, a great weekend with so many games coming down to the wire. We're GONNA start with the last one played Sunday night last night seahawks and patriots. What a great way to start. This one came down to the last play cats at the goal line down five with a chance to win gives a CAM power powered in. Except when he can't he is stuffed, he stopped right at the goal line great game here on this with Seattle would win happily both cam and Ross putting on a show as expected eight total touchdowns with twin Ross and Cam after the game though Cam Newton on what happened on that final play Was a great playbill. Play, we had favored in a game plan, rent a couple towns Sticking to the well to town identity today. Feel confident about it. In. Bowed execute. Balanced it looking at eclipse. Has Gotten better. So it'd be better here in. And You know we would put ourselves in a position to win and. You know you do that and just got gotta finish it will, be? Bringing than it is hard to put this loss on Cam. Newton. Shoulders. He had a tremendous night. But what did you see on that final play there? Well. First of all I was shocked they were even in that position. When you look at the way, they played this game. You know they played this like they were they had a Lotta Chemistry. They were midseason form. SEATTLE. I expected that from them but for the New England patriots to fly across the country in a being a ball game in the fourth quarter against that team was impressive. Cam took the words out of my mouth I felt like they went to the world one too many times as well. I was listen to the broadcast. In the guys took the field and all you heard the guy say, well, they're going into their heavy package I said what couple tidiest couple tackles I said they're doing it again. and. Then the first thing I thought about Oh. This is classic Josh mcdaniels been setting this up. They're gonNA do like a little pop. Pop Plant. Pass. Where CAM new and takes off to let for takes off to the right you see the tiding creep out and then he's wide open the back of the end zone but then they took off and ran I said Oh. No, of course. Seattle was prepared for this because if you look at New England patriots ribs on offense, they do it phenomenal job of running the ball. All this is. An extension of what they've already done for the past twenty years Tom Brady to pass ten years actually what Tom Brady with the run game run to the left run to the right and they do the same thing over and over and over again and it works. But when you have Cam Newton, this is why thought it was a little bit of a disappointment to see them. You know call this place. Because, you can give him a run pass option what if we go empty set and then you have wide receivers coming in on on his on a slant there there you take them. If they go a full out blitz, hit the slant hit the fate route hit the middle. Fate. But what they did is they put them in a box where he can only do one thing and that's why I thought. It was disappointing Nick because when you have Cam Newton you spread them out, you make the decision. So there you make a defense, show their cards and. A disappointment because they could easily won his game but they should be proud of himself and everyone in New England including you wild everyone should feel really good about what they're seeing New England team. Buddy. Brandon the and wild all get you in just a moment because this game I don't know if you remember I said how do I want Patriot games to go for Cam to play great and? heartbreak. Check everything came up nick right taken she fitting sixty yard field goals, Davis hitting game winners ever since the clippers lost it's just everything's come with the teaser hit but okay on the play new. Dude I know great yourself. I'd Brandon I agree with nearly everything you said with one small exception I. Understand that maybe even if are going to go heavy if you have that going to the right where it would be an easier throw if the RON is blown up, I understand that they did score a touchdown play like that to Yaacob Johnson the fullback here who gets annihilated the only reason the reason I will defend the Patriots here is sometimes you gotta shake the other guy's hand and L. J. Collier made a brilliant play like Yakking Johnson holds up cam walks in cam can just go around the site go. Around to the side and walk in Eljay Call Your first round pick for the team from a couple of years ago he came in and made a massive play on a fullback who'd been playing great the whole game. But I agree with you entirely that if there is such a thing as a moral victory one where Cam Newton throws for almost four hundred yards where you're down twelve to this Seattle team, and he leads a seventy five yard touchdown drive in the final five minutes and then you needed eighty, he took seventy nine yards in the final two minutes throws for nearly four hundred Julian. Has the best game gives had arguably in his entire career wild Ivana Pats Fan, I am feeling Ramer Hall of our. Okay, make sure. Nothing I'm not. It's. People would say that. But why? Rub it off. You've got you gotta feel good like you'd want WanNa, get the win. We'll feel. Brandon Super. Bowl pick Seattle's an excellent team and you played a great game and Cam looked as sharp as I've seen. Cam Look in years he was just dropping Darko out the game wasn't just. Almost too fast that one to hall of Famer Julian. Settlement. In the end zone was almost two as throwing the ball hundred miles an hour. So the game winning tops Julian. dropped. The ball two, hundred miles an hour I don't know what you want. The Guy Do nick back to you as fellow Patriot. Fan when you rooting for Cam to score the very at the end goal where you ruined I hope we get this in your or you rooting for him to get stopped. One hundred percent honest. A hundred degrees it honors we. Came to get stop over you rooting for the Patriots in Canvas score touch the hundred percent on his don't lie to America be honest I was rooting for Cam to score and have it be called back because did something working. But that's not what a half. It's Dropped the game winner Cam could have had a dime for the win and goes through his hands Brandon Marshall Catches that real all famous get. Your dropped the game winner wild. It was a great measuring stick for the New England. Patriots to see where they are this early on in the season going up against a great. Game Captain, Greg Credible Day of football across the NFL. The cowboys found the most improbable way to win yesterday we're gonNA break down all that chaos and their game against the Falcons. This is. I. Believe that happen. Fact when Al Game Cowboys Falcons, what a game, pick this up, late cowboys, Newt's recover an onside kick to stay alive. But nobody does that unless you're the cowboys apparently great kick by Greg's align. DAX has had to drive the cowboys down the field for a field goal eastbound CD land to set up zero line for a forty six yard or all of that as time expired cowboys, they were down twenty points after the first quarter come all the way back to beat the Atlanta Falcons yesterday here is Dak. Prescott after the win. This is huge because McCarthy said at halftime. We need to be here. We need to be right where we are and he said the final score didn't matter as much as. Finding out the the type of men that we have the type of that we have within this team but as I said the show the resiliency to go out there and continue to fight. Continue continue added and just be able to come out to win. It does so much obviously way better than star knowing to. One and Having a lot of confidence after after we put ourselves in such a big hole in the first quarter. Just to just to stay at everybody believes in each other that was huge and so so many ways. On the off chance, you forgot which team Dak Prescott played for. He made sure he reminds you. Press. conference. Brandon. What did you make of the cowboys twenty point comeback yesterday against Atlanta. Let let's get the football out of it. For out of the way I I wanted to speak from a fan's perspective. The football football side of things is this we understand if you lose the turnover battle, you probably going to lose the game for them to be able to overcome that being down twenty in the first quarter three turnovers. That's unbelievable. What they had like a point one percent chance of winning that game like that was the probability. So hats off to the Dallas cowboys for how rallying in in the. In the Locker Room at halftime coach McCarthy obviously gave a great speech maybe duck rivers can learn from that. But? That's the football side of things, but from a fan. Perspective, it's like, who are we dealing with? What type of team is this? The Dallas Cowboys I mean men are we going to deal with this? All Year is roller coaster ride contender or your tender I. Think all of us had our takes ready to go at the end of that first quarter ready to this to destroy the Dallas. Even tweeted I. tweeted out something this team like jv team and then they come back and do this They did the impossible and then also wanted to talk about the Atlanta. Falcons like are you serious? I mean if any team no benching ways to house lose a game example. Day. When Dan Quinn survive this nick items. See how Dan Quinn survived this year continues. The most underperforming team that we have seen in last for years. So from fast perspective, you know I was just all over all over the place watches game didn't know who to follow and why the Hell I was following them. So you know it wasn't exciting game and I'm having to cal. But come on Man I. Don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA I don't WanNa track this all year, two pretenders, contenders, come brandon, listen man all those takes you said folks had ready after the first quarter I'm still going to deliver them because that was the biggest. Victory. Maybe we have seen in the NFL ever. You were talking about the percentages. So here are the numbers right teams in. NFL. History that score at least thirty nine points and don't turn the ball over were previously four hundred and forty one and Oh, according to Elias until the Falcons broke that stretch and why did they break it? Because their players don't know the rules. It's the cowboys who can't touch the ball. You can touch it Atlanta you can bat it out of bounds you can kick it. You can do anything other than look at it like it's a nuclear bomb. This is the cowboys victory in the standings, but they do not get a victory in my heart and I, say that as a team as a guy who picked them to go to the Super Bowl, I've loved to be able to sit here and tell you this is. Why I picked the cowboys because they showed unbelievable city to come back. No. This was a present from a team in. ATLANTA. That invents new ways to lose football games. You said, you'd think you don't have Dang survives it. Well, he survived a five game losing streak in the heart of the season in two thousand eighteen he's survived at one in seven start last year. So maybe he does survive it but that's coaching your players don't didn't they panicked they didn't know the rule. No. Adviser Line just fall on it is the ball is no nick I look at it's. No Nick this is this is hard. As a wide receiver has been in a situation. So many times the speed was perfect because we're taught is if it's a high hopper Abbad it's coming fast then we can sit back and wait on it. But in this situation, you know we know the rules that if it doesn't go past ten, then it's a penalty, it's our ball. You wait there. It was the perfect speed to make someone indecisive. That's all I can say this was a tough spot for Atlanta Falcons and a lot of people were crushing them. You're not the only ones but we sit in these meetings every single week and we talk about these scenarios and situations we practice so many different types of kicks in this kicker hit it the perfect way with the perfect speed like what do you do if you're in the situation? This looks like it's GonNa, make it the ten and it did no because if you fall on it nick become and you don't get it it becomes alive Paul. is stay away from it. Totally perfect speed. Wild. Brandon, there's something called diffusion of responsibility and and it rears its head and all sorts of. Ways, in the world. And Its most nocholas it's it's like, Hey, let's bring food to the picnic and everyone assumes that someone else's bringing the drinks and there's there's drinks at place and it's it's worse you at a car accident you're supposed to say like, Hey, you in the blue shirt hold on or no one calls nine one one. So in in this case Brandon when you're lined up, is there a specific person? It's like I'm going to get the ball or is it just like an you guys block or is it just like let's all get the ball if it comes to us and then gets the ball. Yeah. Let's let's. Let's see that clip again I mean if you look at it, the guys on the front line, they're taught to not touch the ball and they go blocked for for the guy in the back. The gown second level and who is that what number is that? Is that Julio Number Eleven? That's Julio Julio I don't know if that's Julio, that's Julio's ball. So it puts everybody in a tough position because when it's when it when it's barely going to get the ten, the front line, their job is not to touch the ball. It's holy job to go get that but Julio's in back like this ball's not going to make ten. So this is a tough spot and you've got gotta give this kicker a lot of credit i. Mean? I would say it's look. This is something that we haven't really seen a lot guys kicking it this way off the tee but this was the perfect speed I gotta say that because if it was slower than everybody's okay, the ball doesn't make it a ten. If it's a little faster Julio Jones takes off and he goes, he goes to get the ball but this was just like the perfect this storm for the. Atlanta Falcons. But look. An without and then came and kick the forty six yard or to help them win regardless of goes in the books as a w, and now they can move onto next week all. Let's put a great on it Tom. Brady leading me bucks to a win and Tampa's home opener over Carolina yesterday radi for two hundred seventeen yards and a touchdown to Mike Evans? So Brandon Marshall put a grade on Tom Brady's week to performance. Yeah love watching him get the ball out fast I. Love watching him get his first and second quick but I have to give them a beat. There was a lot of missed opportunities there. But this is exactly what I expect Tom to look like in week two and a new system. I'm going elementary school grades. I'm going gee for good and also G. for Gronk, like we're gronk out one target and got intercept I'm starting to get worried about my buddy bronx that he's not going to be this forced that we expected this year nick. Wall, I'm starting to get worried about the standard that America's evidently decided Tom Brady to be. We're giving him. B.'s forgiven good for to turnover hundred yard performance against the team that might with the number one pick of the draft Bravo. While done, I, mean a couple of we grade on a curve. There is a seriously what are we doing? What's your grammy? So wish gray I, give them a I give him a C and I right on the bottom of the paper. A star congrats on avoiding job. He did a buoyed his fourth straight game with pick six. So that streak is broken. He deserves credit for that but the overall gang come. Turn over two hundred yards. I mean I'm not on one great thrown down the sideline one. Great. Oh well, you know who did quarterback a great game in Nick Opinion Mr Unlimited is Ross. Boys Win his first MVP. Snacks. Versus. We've got a huge double header on Fox I the niners. Giant or the regional action. Then back in the lead, the cowboys against Russell Wilson and the sea off. Both teams coming off wins that's America's game of the week check your local listings for the Games in your area or watch it on eastbound sports at. All right time now for a little drawing blank that's GonNa be a busy one. We got a lot to get to the cowboys pulled off the improbable yesterday with their on side kick aerobics that led to the game winning field goal they avoid dreaded into start. Sorry. Philadelphia Eagles but brandon, the most impressive performance on Sunday was blank. The most impressive win on Sunday I have to go with Russell Wilson Five touchdowns. One interception one interception just just bounced off of Greg Olson's hands outside of that area catch and Nah play. We're looking at a guy that could be perfect on the season. This is the year Russell Wilson. Wins MVP. Own Party talking. Like Russell was unbelievable but we've seen him play like that. Before we saw a week one, I'm going to go with the team that actually lost most impressive performance was the chargers defense. They help Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs offense to the second fewest points. Any team is held them since he took over mahomes under terrestrial wrestle hold game that first half was the worst chiefs offense has looked in years now. They weren't able to get the win, but I thought that I know that chargers deep into particularly in a game where they knew they were going to have to play well because they made a quarterback change right before opening kickoff came out ready to play in was fantastic. So I give the chargers defense a minch credit. I. Don't know why we keep throwing homes get thrown down I. Mean it's a little control. The chargers soon, great job by them is a great job by the CAN I can I interrupt on the chargers defense nick right will famously give out his cell phone number at the bar if you see and so you can just text him football takes and Hellfire back at you. I think Anthony Lane. Major number, and when they're about puns when it's fourth and one. I wouldn't take some. Yes He's going. To. The. Harry overtime that taught. But that's a terrible called. The kicker already hit a fifty dollars price. surprised. Ta. Like four in the game, you count the time out. It's been you. Lynn and I love him even more for that. Good Job Wild I did. You can stop. I'm certain of. Its though hall of Famer. Julian. edleman. GENYK career game from. From the hall of Famer Eight Eight. Catch. owner. Keith dropping. Because, he knew in throws a ball that. The planet. Well, it is interest came in. He isn't used. With the guy with a strong arm. Carson Wentz was unable to help his eagles bounce back yesterday against the Rams and the battle of number one versus number two picks in that twenty, sixteen draft two more interceptions for went. Brandon Demos disappointing performance on Sunday was blank. Many ways I could have went with this one. I had to get creative metlife stadium net turf. You Lose, Solomon Thomas. Bosa. To injury I mean I'm glad that the NFL is taking a second look at this turf. Is Not. My deltoid on that shirt on that turf in my ankle. That's something that you're not supposed to snap I'm so thankful that the NFL is finally taking a second look at this because when you got to of the premier players on defense for Nick on the forty nine San, Francisco Forty Niners, this is a problem. So huge problems for every team going in there. And the so that turf obviously, they got to look at the injuries yesterday even outside of that game, we're Saquon it just hurts your heart there I, mean there were injuries up at tyrod Taylor got injured evidently in the pre game before the warm of bill just pains this brutal day in the NFL. But I'm GonNa go to the someone that didn't get hurt. Kirk cousins. Now. If you were watching the NFL if you didn't never ten early games on. So if you're watching a handful of other games and have a game on red zone, you you didn't even know this game was being played. CECILLIA. Showed you one highlight from this game early and then he never came back to it. was like, okay this game is over cousins was horrible eleven of twenty, six, one, hundred, thirteen yards and three picks per viking team. It can get awful late pretty early in that division. So just a brutal game for kirk cousins, who's made more money in the NFL over the last four years than any player and need start playing like it wild. Earlier in the show, Brandon got very close to criticizing Leo Jones Julio Jones's criticism free. He's got a criticism free. Kevin Wow, it's. Never, cashing will never criticize. Julio Jones. But he did drop a touchdown and Brian. You're saying that was his ball and nick meanwhile wants to fire Dan Quinn because it's coaching to jump on the ball. Yeah. Somebody's goes. Yeah. NFL High School coaches, terrible performance. If you're the high school coach of a of a Falcon. Special Team player that's lined up there go to the principal or the athletic director go hand in resignation or at least Joe Judd style to a few laughs this morning because you didn't teach guys on the ball for ten yards. Jesus fine. I love. He. He he never takes it. Onto the chiefs, they needed Harrison bucker Fifty, eight yard field goal to beat the chargers in overtime not the same old chiefs we saw in week one are we overreacting some might say, yes, but Brandon, I'll start with you the biggest over reaction this morning, we'll be blank. Justin Herbert should be the starting quarterback for the La chargers that's going to be the biggest overreaction. If you really look at this game closely, the kid could he he? He looked like a rookie at times and they couldn't open up their often. So tyrod Taylor gives you the best opportunity to win is a win. Now moment for this team just Herbert the starter is the biggest overreaction. I gotta ask You I. We gotta stay here for a second. So you're saying. Starting job back like Anthony Lynn, you're saying the overreaction would be just an star as a man who by the way gave out to America A. teaser needed the Ravens to win in the chiefs win by at least two and a half I'm GonNa tell you this much. It made me nervous when I thought tyrod wasn't one. It's like Oh charges offense might actually have some light. You think they should go back to tyrod Taylor next week I know her made the one terrible mistake but you think they should go back to tyrod Taylor. You GotTa look at it there's two things that jump out to me number one that's your leader like everyone room knows that's the guy. So if you take him out of that out of that huddle that could disrupt the entire culture of that team. In the second thing, it comes down to situation football. Let's I'm not sure if I want to be in that locker room with this guy learning on on my time like I don't want this Guy Lee a four-minute offense to minute office third down offense ribs on offense and he's not the guy. He's not ready right now but he will be he'll be greg down the line. Okay. I'm GONNA say the biggest over reaction is going to have everything to do with the bucks they beat maybe the worst seeming football in Carolina next week they're going to get to play another one of the worst things football Denver we drew lock got hurt Jeff Bristles backup up. So the bucks are going to be two and one and folks are going to start talking about the bucks are they real conditioners? Eve's he south the answer is no, they're not. They just beat a terrible team yesterday. So wild that's my that's my biggest overreaction. My my biggest overreactions, people criticizing time kill scores. The touchdown then takes off his helmet and enduring the game and on social media. Guy took off his helmet supposed to be a fifteen yard penalty. Meanwhile, Tyreek is like now I didn't take off my helmet. I would never do that. There is like. What it's such an. Outrageous statement that he was innocent, he didn't take off his helmet. I tend to believe him. It's like, I. Guess. He says He. Would never do. So. To Selah overreaction to. Saying he's a liar. And even though he's off. TO CELEBRATE BELIEVE Brandon I believe if you said, I didn't that's exactly what he said. Thank you wasting. Let's move on to you nick even change cousins struggles Minnesota dropped to Owen to with the loss in indy. The one that nobody watched that no one knew is on I know it's hard to play anything good out of Owen to but brandon the best a win to team is blank. A say this with a lot of reluctancy. The Texans. No team has started had a tougher star in the last sixty years then them and you can also say going into Pittsburgh this week is another tough game so they could potentially start owing three instill back into back into the playoffs. One on one hundred percent agree they got some browns and bengals games coming up to sort of soften up their schedule but I agree with Texans next. Okay. So you guys are both wrong. Here are the two teams, jets, Bengals, Texans, broncos, Giants Eagles, lions, Vikings Falcons Panthers Dolphins. The correct answer is none of they. All Stink. Miami's the with a whole but that's only if they go to to of. All of. Them Stink. Give any chance to the dolphins what what are you what and wild? We'll. Say. Eleven, percent of overdue teams ranked. It's going to be zero percent way not gonNa make the playoffs. Comes into the often quickly all of them stink the Texans distinct the jets stink the Falcon Stink, they all spit. Teams in your questions dinner was that your question that wasn't my Question was wasn't my question. I didn't say Nikki Finance Oh and Howard really let us you're GonNa Live Ramat the best. The best team didn't hurt is Jenny's the Denver Nuggets. The Denver Nuggets. To. Hey Kevin do agree tree it's coming up just short in Seattle break down next. This is first things first. Pages Seahawks I tried to tell him that he keeps telling me. He doesn't this one came down to the last three seconds faster. The goal line down five with a chance and cam gets stuff not even close cam though and Ross did put on a show eight total touchdowns between them but the Patriots coming up too short here is Cam Newton on getting tonight on that last play. It was a great play by. Day We had favored gain program the couple of times figure. This thing into the world to midtown but identity today. Said so confident about. Being bowed executing. Could've balanced it no looking to. Better. Better here at the end. And You know we we put ourselves in a position to win and. When you do that and just gotTa Got Senate, show you'll be. and. With that, we welcome in our quarterback Michael Vick Mike. Let's start there. Would you make that final play the game? Cam said they may have went to the where one soon times with that play but that's the play that they executed. Well. Over the last two weeks and I think he scored a touchdown early on a similar plate and even ahead of play action off of that place. So. Bet Play is a play that they can use any. Situation would be third down. Razov and has been effective. I honestly don't think it should it came down to that play. There were plays in a game I think maybe one or two cam probably would have won it back. A couple questionable, third-down caused, and which they ran the ball nate allow Camden Doda football so. Probably should've never came down to that wind play particularly, but I think cam play well play winning football. They play football on both sides and I was very impressed highly impressed but off this play will spend more plays for the doing pages in Kansas and let's really comfortable. Running a system and they're going to be a tough team to beat. Not Soon Change. They're going to beat the New England patriots. Team planning the postseason easily but at the same time. They're gonNA come situations in the game where they gonNA. have to find ways to win games like this and I'm pretty sure that they'll go back and look this film. It comes down to them being. On one and a two yard line and finding a way to get it in I. Think they was kind of shocked in that moment and just search a four play call. Grandma? No. No I agree. I agree with you but I thought that. Was a tough call. I didn't like the call because when you have Cam Newton. I think you know it's it's tough to get one yard in one inch whether it's third and one four from one definitely in the red zone. Everyone in the world knew what was about to happen when I was listening to the broadcast you know I heard a guy say, oh, they're bringing in heavy s it heavy y right now and the first thing that popped out was you know that that pop play you know seeing Cam fake to run a drawl and in tiding get to the back of the end zone he's wide open he scores a touchdown, but then when he took off. Exactly. What I thought would happen happen. Do they stuffed it? That's their job the come in and and just collapsed everything. So they did Seattle did a great job. But when you really look at this game and can't play amazing and I'm shocked that everyone keeps questioning how cam throws candy throw Kenny read his go redes- often go through his keys and his progression. I mean what do we think? This is Cam Newton this MVP, in this league, he's showing that he's healthy. I would say this that you're not gonNA take a little longer for Cam to be at this position where he's hitting that mid season Stri the first week I thought he was a little rusty I thought you know he didn't have his legs under him. He looked phenomenal last night If I'm the League, I'm taking notice because this team is tough because the question coming in was was the. Formula to run this Guy Fifteen, sixteen times a game and he showed that he can sit back into pocket. He showed that he's able to play accident turns back to to the defense and come out and find a guy's going down the field. So is a dangerous team when you see what they're able to do not only in the run game, but in the passing game against a strong team. So Brandon to me. To kind of parallel stories here. One of them is the final play. The final play I wanNA give Eljay call your credit as predictable as it was even with everyone knew it was coming that play works when folks know it's coming if L. J. Collier doesn't blow up yaacob Johnson the fullback right here like he makes the play good good job by him but that's Not. But that's his know his job I get that his job is to coming in submarine the blocker I get that my point is there have been plenty of times and Cams career and plenty of times in this game win Seattle New Cam was running it and they couldn't stop it. So I don't hate the plate goal, but the other storyline is Cam. Newton just threw for more through forget the running through yards in this game. A patriots quarterback has thrown for since the Eagles Patriots Superbowl like Cam Newton through damn near four hundred yards had the game winning touchdown pass go through the hands of Julian Ataman enjoins defense he's hasn't had a quarterback with real arm strength for a number of years so he's not used to it. I mean. Imposition. Credit to bill, Barnwell for common for reminding us of this list. A short list of names of quarterbacks signed this off season making more money, even Cam Newton match, Shaw Chad, Henny AJ McCarron Brett Hundley Jeff Driscoll Nathan, Peterman all of those guys were signed this season for. Thanksgiving is giving. Yeah. Well. Lenny. Point Newton Wilde's. Oh I know I'm really. Extension Talks Jenna unbend ready for this. As, soon as you heard that like Cam was totally gelling in in the locker room and Bella check laws them I think after these two games even though we're one on one like all right, let's extend. Cam. Why do we want camp to hit the open market brandon? As enthusiastic as I am to sort of open up the Patriots Park Book and signed Cam Long-term. pocketful. I I'm almost. Positive that you can't touch a contract for year you know. So I think they have to wait a little bit. You're right. She'll. They could extend your your extended. Yeah. Okay. Well, you're you're you're you're right it's this. Yep You're right. Team right here. They found their quarterback. They definitely found their quarterback. It's my favorite thing absolutely whether it happens now. In the next couple of weeks. So at the end of the season I, think cam would be a Patriot for a long time. Why would you let a guy like Cam Newton and go I mean we all know a good quarterback play is hard to find the next man up I. Don't think he'll be able to produce like Cam. So if I'm doing patriots and I'm looking at the last two weeks I'm excited about the future. And Vic I understand if you're the if you're the Patriots and their fans, you're not used to moral victories because you're used to being the favorites you're used to expecting twelve or thirteen wins. But for this patriots team, those opt outs on defense dealing with the emotional shot of James. White right before the game is inactive because he's the only true family tragedy, you're on the road against what might be the best team in the NFC and Russell Wilson after one not even a bad pass Pasco's aren't going to. Turn the other way plays a nearly perfect game to be a yard away from stealing wind Mike. If you're the pants, I feel like you've got to go into next week saying we can contend right now forget rebuilding forget scraping nine wins like don't you New England feel great. All Things considered about how well you played The New England patriots on that plane ride home I know Josh. mcdaniels is looking at that film because you can get the film right after the game. And he's coming up with more play. 'cause he's looking at all the things that can be well and the things that he can expand on. Now I think the kids the not try to put too much camp late but allow him to. Be cancelled. And you know open it up yesterday opened it up. I mean he did everything up under the sun sprayed they was in. Three wise they was in full wise on a random football effectively, the offense was open. So Nat have the reins to do whatever they need to do and camp handle all of responsibilities. Then it opens up the minds of the of the offense coordinator in anybody on offense and side of the ball. So I thought that was positive and when I was watching the game, I could just see cam new in New England patriots for a long time because he looks really good in you're hearing also. Listen to a wild said Tell Bill Belichick open up your cross body pocketbook and take take out the. Let sign cab noon for years to come stick around Michael. We didn't just having credible finishes in the NFL Anthony Davis with the end of all ends in game to the Western Conference finals. Last night first things first the pocket book. No. Better Line by line of the League Beck you're talking Nuggets Lakers insane finishing this one lakers down one time expiring Anthony Davis the catch the shot and the win nailing it from three. And the Lakers goes bananas after this shot Eighty scored the Lakers final ten point by the way to help beat the nuggets one five. One of three was your final. They now take too old series lead. Here's Lebron James on a special moment for eighty and the organization. Was Not about making a shot so by having a belief. Just taking it for one and living with the result. You know I think right back to our game right before. Kobe hit. We play Brooklyn at home and he had a similar shot right there on that left wing right in front of their bench fuss to win a game and he missed it. And he was down himself but at the end out, it's automatically listen. You Open. And I was able to drive the that particular game and find him wide open and he just missed it but just a the confidence to take shop you're not gonNa Make Mall but the belief just take it in in the and And live with the results is what is all about and now tonight was His moment. No, that's that's a shot. Koby Bryant would hit. So to me. In the coming off that just fly into the wing like that with the cats and shoot with the game on the line in the in the biggest moment of our season nothing. But net it's Mama. Shop. I love what Lebron had to say it's not so much about making his shot. It's the belief and the confidence in yourself to take it, which is what Nick you've been talking about for a long time about leading Lebron give the rest of the team the confidence to know they can do it. We welcoming Chris Broussard for start what Jamaica though the final three seconds there and Anthony Davis last shot. On the combined what Lebron and Frank Vogel said and I love that he shot it with the confidence of Kobe Bryant like the first thing I love about it is his body language even if he missed it I, like the fact that he took it believe he would make it. There was no hesitancy nothing like that. Secondly, I love the fact that he shot it over Yokich. Play great defense. You got a seven footer charging at you. It was good defensive which is better off offense, and thirdly I like the fact that he bounced back from Yokich literally taking his lunch money twenty seconds earlier when he back down and put in the jump not quite literally. But backed him down with the jump. Hook. That looked like it was going to be the go ahead. He didn't get down. He's a great defensive player, but he didn't let that steel spirit and he comes back in his the shot I don't want to overstate this but assuming the Lakers go on to win the championship which I think they will we will look back at this shot as the official coming out party for Anthony Davis win to me he goes from just being A. Great player to an all time great player I have said. In long the big question for the Lakers is, will ad step up and be a go to guy in the fourth quarter and I was a seeing it for most of the regular season. But in the playoffs, he's been that guy sixty four percent shooting fifty percent from three six points a game in the fourth quarters and obviously last night he was huge in the fourth quarter. So what this shows is that in the future people have looked at this as well. They got one year Lebron's getting older. This is probably their best to win it now, I've always said if. We can improve become common at Alpha Dog. Then he transitioned from Lebron being the best player to eighty three and the best player Lebron great though, and they can win more championships in the future. So this is the first step in my view of that. You know what? That sounded a lot like to me Bruce Hart broussard creaking the door open to join me on the other side of weight is six rings a real possibility for Lebron Raimondo. Very. Well, might me? LOCKED UP, they'll go into next year is the favorites. So a couple of things quickly here one is. Rough spot for the Nuggets Lebron has played well for approximately twenty four total minutes of the ninety six in this series and they're down to Oh, and unfortunately for the nuggets collide doc and the clippers are not walking through that door. So this series is over good night it was unbelievable run, but the reason that everyone vogel it up, AD, brought it up. Lebron brought it up. Brought up that shot against Brooklyn is not just because it was in the exact same spot on the court but also because this is the context as to why the Lakers even being. So here's the shot against Brooklyn right before the NBA shutdown. Wide the Lakers despite being a relatively new unit that everyone seems to get along so well that they are so cohesive. Because that is the way Lebron James teams run Brandon Brown wasn't good yesterday but in that game against the against the nets, the context was they adjust beaten in the box they just beaten the Clippers Lebron that game had just missed the layup and he was trying to catch Jonassen the MVP race that we know matters to him, and so you would've thought against the net Lebron's. Going to try to take a three to hit a game winner and get that MVP narrative rolling instead trust the process, find the open man, make the right play live with the results and while it didn't pay a media dividends that night I absolutely believe it helped lead do Anthony Davis having the confidence to take this shot and make this shot. So it was a great finish by. Brandon and the series is now officially unofficially over the nuggets. Nick, let's not glaze over what you said. I mean you're not far off there when you talked about. Lebron potentially sprint and the six championships like that's a real deal. When I saw him hit that shot the first thing that came to my mind was wow Lebron hasn't had a wing man He can really lean on these moments since career hit that shot and Golden State. So when you think about how it set up over the next couple of years this year championship number four for Lebron, this would probably be the easiest one of them all like I mean was there is there ever a better situation still a championship covert nineteen, a bubble, and all these other distractions. And then when you look at the makeup of the NBA. The La Clippers collapsing you have the Houston Rockets Small Ball isn't working for them and who knows, what would the off seasons going to look like for them and then you go over to the east the East isn't strong. So when you look at Is a guy that that can really carry you for the next couple of years because Lebron has that game that he can adapt like is he out of his prime? He's probably out of his prime, but he's playing out of high level. He's playing some of his best basketball and some key moments and he has a game where when things slow down. He can still dominate whether it's running a point guard whether developing a better three point shot. The Braun is a guy that can adapt to a d. becoming the best player, not only on his team, but in the NBA, this was a big shot, not only for this series but how they're going to approach this off season for the next couple of years. Well. So you know I think plumlee is watching this show and be like all right Janet didn't mention it bazaar didn't mention it. Nick right didn't mention Brandon imagine maybe I can get through the whole segment. We're about seven minutes in get through the segment with magic wrong plumlee comes. To Cross you what are you doing? What are you doing? You could tell me like, oh, maybe he was gonNA curl maybe you're supposed to switch. This is a terrible terrible place but nick, you mentioned it earlier in the bubble when Taco fall was on Kyle lowry you're like that's the end of guarding the inbound pass. So if you wanted to joker off and put them on, put him on Lebron Double One of those guys is someone else beating fine we look at game winning shots. Lebron's got a ton Dave's got second. So Rondo Hits a jumper in beats you like. All right. We decided not to guard the inbound pass. That's way it's going to go but plumlee. Brutal for you Andy Davis, you know it's a bad baby. When Anthony Davis hits the biggest shot of his life, and then you look on twitter and you're the defender is trending like Oh boy this is this is not this is not for me Bruce. One thing I look the series is over we know that Nick said I think nick was saying sweep. Now I wouldn't be surprised if the nuggets comeback and get a game they did play well, obviously they can go and feeling like they should have won that. So, they may get one game at think the Lakers would be wise to get them out of there as soon as possible because the last thing you WanNa do is give the nuggets any life they win the next game they're thinking, Hey, we really should be to one, and then you got a problem on your hands. So the Lakers need to try to get them swept out of here or at least go up three Olya and get this series over with. Let's and Lebron's twenty two, zero series when he's up to nothing, he's obviously undefeated when he's three nothing in three one. So the series is over whether it ends and four or five. We'll see by the way the Lakers beat the nuggets in the bubble on a buzzer beater and we're trying to get that video for you. Guys plausibly did the exact same thing on the no buzzer beater runs to no one and just starts pointing May Mike Malone's done a great job, but maybe Mason Plumlee isn't your guy these into game situations but as far as for the Lakers, moving forward. I'm a big believer that great players unlock the greatest part of their game after they become a champion after the pressure and the removed of, can you ever get it done argue clutch and I say all that to say this Anthony Davis Justice his first career playoff game winner, and in about three weeks, he's going to have his first career championship it. Is Absolutely, in play that a guy who's been an MVP candidate into your three in the league, we're going to see the very best version that we've ever seen Anthony. Davis next season, which does speak to as Brandon mentioned Bouchard mentioned Wilde's I'm not sure why you glossed over it lebrons marched not not five not six maybe seven rings he said it once. Thought minutes. Her. Six we'll see we'll just see. Lakers get the big win over the nuggets. They now take a two Oh series lead resort as always think. On the outside kick return on the other side. An income. Cowboys game next first thing I. Mason. Heard Changed charges now. Let us pick this one up and over time you heard me correctly chase needed overtime for Harrison fought Gordon nailed a fifty yard field goal actually did a twice to beat a chargers team playing a rookie quarterback and Justin herber despite getting over three hundred yards passing two scores from Patrick mahomes cheats still barely escaped with the time when Mike Vick is back with us. But Nick let me start with you here. Are you worried about this team needing overtime to beat the chargers? Oh No. I'm not worried about them I listen I give credit an immense credit to the chargers. They had a brilliant defensive game plan forget anything jerkers don't often I. They gave this chiefs offense as much trouble as any team has ever given it since mahomes taken over this is the second was points chiefs scored with Mahomes as the starter. The time they scored less was in a game. We're tired killed in play in. Mahomes was injured throughout against the colts last year. So great job by the chargers defensive front and it took three special mahomes plays just to escape and to fifty eight yard. Kicks the fifty, five yard or forty five yard pass tyreek Hill was unbelievable. The two point conversion play was a feel like underrated and how it was and on third and Twenty Mahomes ran for twenty one to set up the field goal at the end of regulation. So you need three special plays by the best player in the entire league. So I- Brandon, I know you thought the chargers could win this game. I didn't think that I thought I did think the chiefs would role they obviously didn't roll, but it doesn't make me worried about them. If anything it feels like another instance of the chiefs. A big deficit and coming out on top thanks to the brilliance of Mahomes late. Yeah, I mean every week we get opportunity to pick upset alert right upset upset. and. This week I chose the chargers over the chiefs. For this, very for this reason. That defense and you and you alluded to earlier, but you really got to start with two guys. You GotTa Start Bosa and you've got to start with Ingraham I. Just thought that you know this team was more than capable of really moving mahomes off off of his several spots they were always going to have somebody in his face. So I thought they did a tremendous job. However, you know when you look at the the second half, they just look gassed. That's what they look like and I felt like if they were in a little bit better condition. This game could definitely went the other way. When you look at, you know you know the chiefs in and how they're set up for this year I think they'll continue to roll. I think they'll beat the teams are suppose the beep. But when you go against a team with a good defense, you know whether you know they meet. Next week the Ravens. You got. That's the Ravens and when you gotTa team to Complain Defense and really move mahomes and also challenge Andy Reid because Andy re which we don't talk a lot about but he well, we talk a lot about Andy Reid. But not in this this way, it's not only how creative is but how he dials up those plays that he creates in the lab at the right time and when you look at that game plan and Whitsand with La was able to do with screens and the misdirection plays they did a phenomenal job of really moving this chiefs teams off their spots and that's why you saw them really. Struggled really bad. If you're going to struggle against the team. And the reason why I'm not worried about the chiefs, they play the chargers twice a year every year and and he's been there for what? The. Last six or seven years in Kansas City. So the charges they they know how to play the chiefs she charges went down to Kansas City chiefs last year if I'm not mistaken. Aren't. So they have a ton of film as they know how to plan the chargers have a great France which makes four tough a game. You need games like this view, the Kansas City chiefs. To. Because, you find a lot of barges south what you need to work on and things that you thought. You did. Well, you know we have to correct that we might dome. That much better. The next time we play the charges but anytime, you cleared saying twice a year in the same division, it's going to be very competitive and remember game is against the Washington redskins and the Dallas cowboys the. Philadelphia Eagles some of the hottest game Joe ever have to play in, and then you go out against another team. That's. In, AMC and Roll them. So you know I expected the charges, the plate stuff. I didn't think it was going to be easy especially being on the road for the chiefs but for them to pull out the win, you know it has to give the team a great confidence. Wild size why is why is Anthony Lynn punting the ball to Patrick Games? I mean Patrick Mahomes in. A bad team might as well. Why did the punt the ball in overtime and I know the defense was playing great and I know if you like the defensive stalwarts in the media like you got to trust your defense, do your though that not only do you have. Patrick. Mahomes you've got a kicker who looks other worldly whose twitter handle is. But kicker. Like. Earlier in the day his name. Get the penalty and it moves back any rita still coughing like, yeah. Dude. Hit it again. It's. It's all good. As soon as I saw them kicking the ball to the chiefs in overtime when. You do are you trying to lose this game and nick sure it made you happy when you when you saw the kicking unit come out which Prove at least shouldn't have done it. Yeah. Of course, not listen I. Last thing I wanted them to do was to try to keep the ball bottom of his hands. So I was they they're in Anthony. Lynn's defense I twenty eight of the thirty, two coaches in the league punt in that spot inside your own forty. Early in overtime I think most coaches punt I. Think all of them would be wrong particularly against the chiefs. But my there's a few points here that I don't want to be missed. What is this is now the sixth straight time the chiefs. have one a gain that they trailed by double digits. The last time they lost a game that they trailed by double digits was the AFC championship game against New England and even in that game, they got it to overtime and a coin flip is they never talked to the ball or else it might have been seven streep. But the other one is this and I do feel like the kicker is massive the two teams in the AFC have the best kickers and football and earn Tucker, and that's why this game was so important. There's only one by this year. So if the chiefs have lost this game, it's like, okay they'll probably still be fine but trying to get that number one overall seed, every single game matters. So they did escape with one they did kind of steal one and I'm curious to you Mike when you've been on the best teams that you've been on how much confidence or lack of confidence is determined by how much faith do you have in your kickers ability to make those key kicks in Games? It's nothing like having a good kicker. You, cross fit the Atlanta. endzone zone looks closer and closer and closer, and sometimes you can't you can't reach it. But if you've got a guy who can consistently make kicks. From. Fifty plus you know or. Thirty to forty yards in automatic you know it just gives you the confidence that you know. Once you cross that fifty, you points on the board and Andy Reid has done a great job of not only finding the best quarterback in league a Sieg. was in the best guys presently but he went on and found the kick at a really rely on and that's A weapon you know every Tehmina League doesn't have a great kick. You look around the league I mean guys miss an extra points. This guy don't miss. So Ami hit it on the spot with this guy and I he'll be kicking for the Kansas City chiefs for a long time. So thank God for him. You know he put them in a position to win and They escaped with one. Yeah I. Also it's hard to do all these things but really. The chargers showed us how to beat this team. You gotTa keep this guy you know office spot you gotta move them. You also gotTa keep everything in front of you and you gotTa take away screen game now. They're great at misdirection run plays great misdirection screens, and if you can do that, you'll have a chance but not every team has a boatswain. Every team has an ink ingram. So when you really look at this, you know it's going to be hard to really stop this team moving forward but I will say this and and push the conversation forward to to to the other team you know when you look at Herbert. Mike to me them kicking that ball shows why you go back to tyrod Taylor because coach Lynch showed everybody and told everybody I don't trust this guy in the biggest moments. So so Mike I don't know how you see it but if you're coach Lindy, you go back to tyrod Taylor. To the bench and I think you let tyrod go out and Y, you know his. His expertise and professionalism show guy got a Lotta snaps up on his buddies study notice like and this is a good shot this team that could compete and if they play well Wayne Games that they stack some wins, they could show up in the postseason so I don't think this is. Opportunity for them to. Go with a rookie guy who was proven who looked like a rookie and different spice yesterday but also you know in the same breath. You learn you know the more reps get throughout the course of the season the more games he play, which would be critical but I think that's a tough decision for Andie. For Anthony Land Make Right now. But if I'm the head coach of the charges, I, think I'm going backward tyrod at least for the next three or four games you see what I can get out of. I'm really surprised. I'm just surprised I was surprised Anthony Lynn after the games that he was going back to tyrod. I was surprised when Brandon this morning. So you should go back tyron surprise vicks agreeing with them wild. You mentioned as a chief span. What was I- rooting for I was rooting for them to punt overtime as chiefs fan I was bummed out when I saw the rookie quarterback was coming in to start the game because it added some very into the game and Herbert while now don't get me wrong. He made an egregious rookie mistake when the chargers were in full control and I get that they're up eight, he could run for a first down instead he. Throws across his body across the field into triple coverage was terrible but he played well, I thought I thought he made some big throws out the game and if You're if you're a charger fan this morning, I didn't her fans WanNa see Herbert out there. Again I'm not saying they're going to immediately but I bet charter fans this morning WanNa, Justin Harbert and week three. While you draft. Really starting. Yeah, usually found out, he was starting a few minutes before the game and he's still went out and put on that. Again. All right bye. Thank you so much. Really. Appreciate it take a break coming up the Patriots, came oh-so-close last night in Seattle to a victory that's next versus firth. Sunday, we got a huge double header on Fox I forty niners take on the giants or other Regional Action Than Jack Ziegler the cowboys against Russell Wilson and the seahawks. Sin America's game of the week check local listings for the Games in your area or watch all on the Fox sports at back for top stories. This morning patriots and Seahawks fans at the goal line down five chance to win give it to Cam. Power in except when he can't cam getting stuff at the goal line and Seattle, we'll take the win happily but both Cam Ross put on a show eight total touchdowns between them. After the game. Cam Newton on what happened on that vinyl way. It was a great play by. Play we had baber in a gain Clinton rent a couple of times. Sticking to the wealthy to midtown but identity today. said. Feel confident about it. Out Execute and I could've announced it looking into Clinton. It's gotta be better. To. Be. Better Down you know we will put ourselves in position to win and. You know you when you do that. It just got got finished shape be. Campaign that one on Cam Newton it all he did have a great game brandon. What did you make of that final play where cam? Yeah we're cam stopped the goal line. I. Didn't like it. Jenna. Her Cam. went to the well one too many times. I didn't like it because everyone in the world knew what they were going to do when I was watching the broadcast. You know I just heard the guy say. Here comes the heavy package I'm like, no, no more titans no more tackles a we I want to see the New England Patriots Sprint amount and give Cam. Run A. RUN PASS pass option to do that. You know it's Har- in the National Football League to gain a yard to gain ends when it's third and short when his fourth in short when you're in a tight rid in everybody knows you're running, it's easy to call something and and really clogged all the gaps. So I didn't like the call I thought that there was a possibility that we could see a pop pass where you see cam fake the running untied and get out, and he's wide open in the back of the end zone which we see several times before with him in Greg Olson so I was shocked to. See that they committed to the run and this moment when you have Cam Newton where you can go empty and you just create so many different mismatches a lot of guys freak out when you see quarterback start moving like Cam, they come off of their assignment leave their guy somebody wide open a standing in a quarter in the end zone or in the middle of the end zone but I thought Cam Newton play well I I'm shocked to see that I was shocked to see them in this position because they looked like they hit midseason form you know the question going in was The question going in was. Our this team going to continue to run is that the formula to run Cam Newton fifteen sixteen times or is the formula mix it up? We'd and know of Cam was going to be able to drop back in throw the ball and I thought he didn't look good I thought he looked great throwing the ball was probably one of his best performance performances spinning. The ball. He was putting it in places where only the receiver can get it and we've never seen Cam. Really do that was the accurate at times? Yes. But to literally say you know what? I'M GONNA put it right here that was special to see and I think the NFL needs to take no because this patriots team once again is a is a contender. I totally agree brandon and you know what? Bill Belichick's regular season record the Patriots two, hundred and thirty, six wins, eighty four losses and look I know people are going to have an issue with this. But I think because I'm doing TV from my basement and I have a pen, I have the authority to officially put an asterisk against the eighty four I'm going. To turn that into a win or an astros for eighty three losses in one Astra's walk this was an actual wind, not moral victory in actual win for the Patriots Cancer for three hundred and ninety seven yards most yardage since twenty eleven hall of Famer Julian. Edelman. Eight receptions for one hundred and seventy. Are We know that we can beat you with your legs? Back throwing the wilds you know how you could have been the actual. An actual win a real win if Julian who didn't drop the game winning touchdown pass if Julian. This. Then it would have been an actual win. We wouldn't have CAM. Getting Submarine Perfect Ball placement right through. To bad drop by. Who played a? Good game. So let's off Brandon. Let me defend the play Cole. Let me defend the play call listen. There is nothing I like more than second guessing NFL coaches. It might be my favorite thing to do on television other than. James I. Really think it is however if I were Josh mcdaniels, I go into that play knowing this in Cam Newton's career nineteen times. He's run the ball from inside the two yard. Seventeen of those times he has scored a touchdown. It is the closest to a sure thing that you have in this league and to me Yaacob Johnson just got blown up by L. J. Collier. Now I know that's LJ's job, but it's also Yacob's job fullback to not get submarine back. So like I couldn't. Yes. They could have done something trickier but I do feel like tell me if you disagree here if they spread them out and they end up having cam, try to throw a quick pass or run best option and he throws it and they lose isn't the commentary this morning why don't you just run the ball like, why don't you? Go Line, why don't you just do that? So I feel like. If they didn't succeed here. They would be getting killed either way, but it does I mean it does put a bit of a damper obviously on what was as you put a great Cam Newton performance overall brand. I mean you just sit it was great. I mean you do what you do best and you do what players do best and and obviously going seventeen for nineteen. That's one of his his better skill sets but I just love heaven two options. I loved option where the quarterback can throw the ball down the field or throw the ball in the end zone but also take off run it. You know there's only a handful of the guys in the NFL that can make good decisions. And put their team in a good position and Cam is one of them. So when a game is on the line for me, I would prefer to actually go empty expert giving my giving my quarterback, those options that do both. While best option debate. Still, not a win actually. So not a win in case, people are just coming to falcons cowboys last night, pick it up lay dowse needed to recover that onside kick and they did this is a team that was trailing by twenty in the first quarter. Somehow some way climbs back in and got the own onside kick and marched down the field and kicked a forty six yarder to win this game somehow cowboys pulling off the improbable here is the winning quarterback Prescott after the win. Yeah, this is huge because McCarthy said at halftime. We need to be here. We need to be right where we are and he said the final score didn't matter as much as a finding out the type of men that we have the type of fight that we have within this team but as I said to show the resiliency to go out there and continue to fight. Continued, continue add it and just be able to come out with the win. It does so much obviously way better than star knowing too. But going one one and I'm having a lot of confidence after after we put ourselves in such a big hole in the first quarter. Just, just stay at and everybody believes each other that was huge and so in. So many ways. That one time nick and I had dinner and he showed up when that hat those are. Those were good times. Nick. How impressive was twenty point comeback by the cowboys I wasn't impressed at all brandon, and in fact, I I. We all laughed, Wilde's say in both patriots, and the seahawks should get a win. But if the NFL announced this morning Brandon Patriots and seahawks get a win but to make it even the cowboys and Falcons both get a loss of one hundred percent good with that brandon the cowboys had no business owning that game but neither did the Falcons both should've lost that game. I still don't know how the cowboys won at Brandon? Yeah. No, I agree with you. I think all of us had our takes ready to go a at the end of that first quarter we are already to cross the cowboys. Team. That's really been put on a pedestal for very long time and they really haven't earned it So to see them come back, I think speaks a lot to the character of this team starting with Dak Prescott he played phenomenal. It's hard to lose the turnover battle and still win the game. They were down twenty points. We know that three turnovers they had a point one percent chance I believe or point one percent chance actually come back and pull it off. so that was impressive while. I. I know all morning Nick been fighting and going back and forth with this onside kick. He thinks it was bad coaching thinking it was a bad play. I just think that they they were in a tough spot because this kicker had the perfect kick and the perfect speed that keep guys indecisive I. Don't know how you saw while what I'm interested. Here we go with this. What Day for kickers on first things first between the cowboys kicker and and your chiefs kicker this has been the most. Pro Kicker show. McAfee pro kicker than us but we're second-place. We get the silver medal brandon. I don't know what is happening here. I know that you're very you're you're reluctant to criticize Julio but early said this Julio's ball and he didn't come up with it. So who are you placing blame on? Don't just say it was a great kick. It was fine. But I it's one WANNA nose up. It's one of those moments wild. Wow. It's one of those moments man where everybody on that on that receiving team was in a tough spot because we're taught when the ball looks like it's not going to. Stay away from it, that's what we're taught. So you know everybody in on that front line, their job is to go block, but it's going. You know it's barely making it the ten yards Julio's like it's not gonNa make it. It's just it's just a tough spot the. First nappy. Up. Oh. Do something don't just watch it. They were like the eighteen thousand in the stadium just wanted it hands Steve News your hands. I'd. Do. something. 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Hour 2: Really Good Genes

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:34 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Really Good Genes

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Put It on the poll. Guillermo should stay. I should say on Stugatz his tombstone. I tried to go into this thing with as little information as possible. I found that adorable that you tried to position that some sort of knew that you were trying out this time around. I can thank you. It is the chromosome that you have that afflicts you with laziness there is no vaccine for you. Try to make it. Something had won any spoilers. Is that what you're alleging? I didn't like the tax that you sent us yesterday morning. People were trying to send me stuff early seen it. I didn't want to hear from them. I certainly didn't want to hear from Ramona. I Love Jackie macmullan. I didn't WanNa hear from her. I WanNa hear from anyone. I just wanted to hear from them. Jay At nine o'clock and I did all I sent you guys in the morning was and kristen like this text either to lower your expectations. So that you wouldn't go into it and then get disappointed because your expectations were too high that the first two hours were biographical because the director had the order of making it understandable to teenagers in France that net flicks demanded what. Espn didn't need. Which is that the first two episodes introduce you to Michael Jordan. Yeah but you made me sound like an idiot to my friends because I had all this access to someone that saw it and I was like guys lawyer expectations. This is really remedial stuff here and everyone is blowing me up afterwards and I feel like a world class because even I enjoy the hell out of that Tony why are you laughing? So uproariously what happened? You all receive that text the same way. Yeah received the Texas same way. I also sent it to a couple of people saying hey member remedial. We're trying to learn who Jordan is for teenagers in France expectations and all the sudden again. I look like in your thank you bill. You had the same experience. Put My hand on my head. I go here we go. It's GonNa be a long Monday on this show because he's just GonNa Start doing these things and then my second thought was. Why does Netflix Care? So much about teenagers in France was weird. Yeah and I didn't want to. I woke up yesterday. I didn't feel like lowering my expectations. Okay I felt like ratcheting up my expectations. I didn't need that from you. I know what you were trying to do. And what you were trying to do was let us know that you're a big star and you got to see it before we got to see it. That's really what you were trying to do. Is Not what I was trying to do. A Chris what do you have here Jordan. How about you sign that autograph for that guy in Paris all right? Sorry you're big Guy I don't I'm not only am I not gonNA sign it. I'm not going to answer you. I'M GONNA look around for my laggy over here by lack of whatever that word is to utilize Also Scottie Pippen. Gross seven inches in college. Rodman grew nine. I think Rodman I think grew more than that anyways. The RAMONA shelburne stories. To God's a number of interesting details in it because that much of the footage in this was Jordan's a lot of people knew that it existed but nobody could have access to it I did of course we know you made that clear so I went to China with Michael Jordan. One ever told you guys that love that after that tax about Netflix. Care about teenagers and friends is Jordan ignoring a request. From someone seeking an autograph in France. Yard it was great to though was he looked over his right shoulder whereas the person normally who comes in and dismisses these autograph requests that are inappropriate because the media and other countries do that. The median American knows usually not to do that but among the things that came up to God's in that Ramona Shelburne story is people have gone to Michael Jordan over the years wanting to make that documentary. Danny Devito was one of the people who didn't even get to a face to face meeting. But Danny Devito at one point one to make this documentary but the way that it got done and this is from the Ramona Shelburne story. It's Tolan the director or one of the directors the makers of the movie He is basically in front of Michael Jordan. And he's a little nervous flew across the country on a moment's notice wasn't sure where the meeting was going to end up or if he'd even meet. Michael Jordan just sort of had to go there and then the last page of the presentation was a look at the documentaries movies and shows Tolan and his company Mandalay sports media had done so. There's Kareem abdul-jabbar. There's Hank Aaron there's Varsity Blues. There's coach Carter and so forth. Toland says he's actually looking at them. All in the bottom right corner is Iverson. He goes you did that. Tolan didn't answer Jordan. Repeated the question. Tolan wondered if this was going to work for or against him like timing with the Cavaliers Championship parade. That morning. It was impossible to know. Tolan mumbled a cautious. Yes Jordan took off. His glasses looked up and said I watched that thing three times. It made me cry. I love that little guy then. He walked around the decks desk extended his hand and said let's do it. The keep the key detail there. Those two guts. The coolest detail is he agreed to do it the day. The cavs did the championship parade after beating. The warriors like he agreed to that day. If you think Michael Jordan Competition Hollick still isn't thinking in those terms. I mean he convinced. Chris cody last night that he's better than Lebron convince them last night. Michael Twenty years last. Night Chris Cody announced after watching the documentary. He's better than Lebron GEICO. Gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven? Which means that. Geico is always there for you. 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Here's some straight talk for us to God's because I've got just a small handful of sentences I've got one photograph a handful of sentences and three people and I believe that what I'm about to read to you is the encapsulation of all of sports radio and also the encapsulation of all of sports social media. Okay so I am telling you that. All I've got is a handful of sentences. I've got three people. I've got one photograph and I'm putting them in a time capsule and I am saying that what I'm about to read to. You should be representative and the perfect crystallized representation of all things sports radio and all things sports radio type culture in Social Media Brooks Kapka simply put up a picture yesterday of a stake with Spirit. Okay that picture that he put up steak with Asparagus and then Christian Smith sees this photograph and says meanwhile people can't make their bills but it so nice. You have an expensive dinner and hold on. I'm not done hold on. That's better better better. So Christian Smith doubles down on. I don't like that you're having dinner. Tables Down with tone death and Brooks Kapka comes back at him with. What have you done to help Big Guy? And then the here's the third person entering the mix. No one asked for him but that's okay. He's here helpfully anyways because he gets his bothered by this stuff as I do. Scott Van Pelt makes an appearance and says the guy's having a steak. You're really doing this. Why are people like this? And it's such a good question. Why are people like this? The era put it on the poll at Lebatardshow. Why are people like this? Yes or no? I think the ASPARAGUS. I mean there's no need for. This is an expensive mistake minute. Inexpensive PUTS COCK sportspeople. Why sports fans stay can just take a picture of it without being reminded about rich kids. I think you can have a state but have the steak and shut up. That's you want to stay barriers steak. Well that's a different question because I think it'd be with you on that. I put this on the poll Guillermo. Stop taking pictures of your dinner. Yes no because I would vote. Yes on that I could be done with that. But then you'd knock out about twenty four percent of instagram. But I can tell you what's happening here Dan. There is a delineation being made. And I understand why. I'm so thankful my parents are down here in house and ended up in New York where they have an apartment. Okay like when you see. Brooke's kept gut in the backyard on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and his backyard is like no other backyard but he got no. He didn't do that though. This tone deaf guy off taking pictures on a yacht. It was just the plate. Who couldn't say no no? No No. Don't give me a big backyard and the things that you imagine that could lead to your resentment so you can hate someone who's less broke than you are. Yeah but I have to imagine what's in Brooks cap goes back yard as he shows me the steak and the ASPARAGUS. So keep that to yourself. You don't have to imagine that you can just imagine what he's showing you which is a stake in asparagus. Without arriving at the I mean we could do this to every athlete being paid one dollar. What about world famine any athlete pink paid a dollar guys coming from us? It's just seems like another late Sunday afternoon for Brooks Kepco feed up steak with inspire against at probably without knowing he's got a couple of golf balls and a swimming pool back there. It's annoying knowing Chris. What do you have totally with Stugatz on this? If he shows steak with corn it totally goes by. Nobody has an arrogance about it. Looks DOWN ON OTHER VEGETABLES? Get over yourself. Asparagus staking cord. He goes right through. No one notices I. Pol at Lebatardshow is steak and corn as arrogant as steak and ASPARAGUS and also at lebatardshow. Does it look down condescendingly? At the other vegetables I mean the most basic plays you can go. Besides corn is steak and mashed potatoes. Everyone is fine with that steak and potatoes. That's good steak and corn. Perhaps you upset one or two people. Steak and ASPARAGUS for asparagus. Seems like something? That's not essential right now. It just does. I don't understand what is happening here. Tony Agree or disagree with this. You're being made hysterical by all of this vehemently disagree with this. Asparagus is an essential item. Have like a whole Bushel of it in my fridge right now. I love asparagus. A BUSHEL. Your your urine misspell. So bad bad. Yes that is straight talk brought to you by straight. Talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Here's your sportscenter. Update Darby County. Midfielder Wayne Rooney lashed out at the. Mls say that. The League is quote taking advantage of America players. 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Strike you out reach for Blue. Emu A maximum arthritis creed. It is fantastic. I swear by it for all the latest headlines and information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. Gero put it on. The poll please was that Kevin. Durant sound wildly unoriginal wildly uninteresting uninteresting and therefore something we shouldn't have aired at Lebatardshow. Just a waste of everybody's time thanks. He's got a great IQ. Michael Jordan did and he was a very skilled player. Thanks for nothing the Boardroom B. O. R. E. D. I mean people are hyperventilating. Stu Gods about this documentary involving Michael Jordan so much so that Dwayne Wade is writing on twitter. If I had three wishes in life I think I would have asked for the last in a manner with people. We are so lonely lonely. We're getting mad about ASPARAGUS. A bushel of experiments asparagus Zim. Tony's refrigerator I wanNA know this because we're all a little bit crazy right now. How much more are you using your phone as a phone than you ever have like? Oh it's like the most. It's not getting like yeah. I'M NOT GONNA be a lot of tax which is great. I'm not using it for email because I'm not getting a ton of e mail. I am actually dialing earth putting up to my ear at speaking into it. It's a it's been weird okay. Put It on the poll at Lebatardshow. Because I'm curious if this is happening everywhere put it on the pole. Are you using your phone more as a phone? Then you have in the last twenty years. I also I'm curious. Those two gods you as such a delightful really we can say flatly in the history of this company. There's never been a more public liar than you. What are you going to end the phone? Conversations like what you can't what are you. How were you ending them? You can't it's not I gotta go no. You don't like your house. So what are you having these calls? How there's always a way Dan where there's a will there's a way so I wi- either tell them that. Hey I gotta walk the dog. Hey my mom is calling on the other line. Hey My dad needs groceries. I pick them up. I gotta take them up to his house of having a okay so you have an important lies. I could send you like twenty twenty five and we'll get you through a couple of days and then when you need to refresh I'll send you another twenty twenty five v Needham again. You can write a book during this dominic a helpful how to get off the phone for idiots that Lebatardshow. I think we should put that on the poll as well because I think this is happening to everyone. Do you lie to get off the phone? Because I can't imagine Stugatz at any telling the truth ever about anything but to get off the phone. That's never you must feel like wildly fulfilling to you in your in your chest cavity to be able to finish a phone call with a lot like just have that wrap up that entire experience that way yeah it. It does fulfill me Dan. Because it's it's I think it's it's the one place. Where lying is universal and acceptable. I might be right about that. Were you heard it? All Stu gods that Tim tebow patron saint for all. That is sports in America during an Easter sermon. Got Up and said while telling part of his story I got traded to the jets. That didn't work out for anybody. When is the last time? A jets trade worked out a ripping the jets during what was an Easter sermon Do you know the answer that question and say lifelong jets fan. What when is the last time a jet trade ended up working out? Because we're making fun of you last week because Who's the player who is to hold out of video training? He's GonNa Mall Adams Jamal Adams. I think Mike might be happy here. Don't please don't tell me that. I got fooled by the Internet. No no no. I'm going to tell you the last time. A trade for the jets worked out Brandon Marshall. Fifteen hundred yards receiving. Yeah I thought you were to say Joe Nemeth. I loved that Mike was so excited that I thought that it had to be about something that shamed me in some sort of way. I figured he was so eager to get to the microphone so so starved for any sports conversation. And he's like I got so excited trivia placard came up during the last dance. I was like ooh asked me drafted Scottie Pippen. I know this one. I am so bagging for anything. I just got so excited. Looking at Brandon Marshall's career receiving numbers. You know he never made the playoffs. How `bout that we are really lonely. Stu Gods it's a lonely time in this country but Michael Jordan brought us together again again he did. They got Curtis Martin. I will also tell you that I believe now looking it up now. The ended up a racing. The trade they made for bill parcells but I believe they traded for parcels but then I although they traded Bella check away so I think the bar sells trade might be the greatest rated jet sister. I can't believe I'm saying that it is the second most ridiculous thing said during the segment again Dwayne Wade. If I had three wishes in life I think I would have asked for the last dance. What the Hell is the matter with him? That's the matter with us. This is this is good. I mean what are what are we doing? What are we doing dad? Desperate Times desperate measures at its. Just listen it's rare to Ha- he's the athletes athlete. He's the Guy Michael Jordan. Is that Wayne Wade. Koby Bryant. They all wanted to be him. They all marvel at him as great as they are at their sports. They all wanted to beat Michael Jordan and I think certainly for genie popped out of a bottle. Ed Greg to me three wishes and fetch. Who would it make that one of their wishes today? I would wish the same thing as Dwayne way. But he is the athlete athlete. Dan when they're as impressed as we are. You know you have someone. That's truly special STUGATZ. Marshall had fourteen. Todd's that year that's how Fitzpatrick got. That contract is a good year but no playoff semi trained for Marseille. Mike we trade for Mark Sanchez. Did we trade up to get Sanchez? Because he got Situa- championship games and that's probably the best rate we've ever made. I doing eight them. You mentioned that he is an was the athletes athlete. I put it on the poll at Lebatardshow please did Michael Jordan purposely agreed to do the documentary on the day that Lebron James was celebrating his championship in Cleveland stood out. You love to believe the worst in people so you don't believe that there are any coincidences there. Correct no now. I doubt Dan. What like what was the part last night that that surprised you the most like for me. I couldn't believe maybe I forgot this. Okay the fact that Jordan. Roll the dice. Would that broken foot second season where there was like a ten percent chance where he might ruin his foot for the remainder of time and they said well you know if you have if you had a headache right and I said here here ten advil. Okay here Ted but only nine of a more would you at one of them's GonNa kill you. Would you take it and you said it depends? How bad my headache is such a good answer? Good answer because of who? It's coming from like A. Mike Has Goosebumps on his arms right now. That might just be though because he saw the season the Brandon Marshall had with the dolphins. But it's not like the fact that Jordan back to Carolina on his own played five and five pickup games without the Bulls knowing and then convince doctors and let them come back to cease it in which they had no chance of winning a championship and really put a ten percent risk on his entire career. Otherwise we'd be Scottie. Pippen greatest player ever. I just can't believe that Jordan decided to do that. It's insane. It's insane. It really is is brandon marshal the greatest athlete to never make a postseason. He's pretty high up there. Yes he would be because he's arguably a hall of famous one of the guys who was always summoned in that regard. Stugotz to answer your question when you say what was most surprising to me how young Michael Jordan's mother looks was myself. Most was the single most surprising thing in the entire thing for me because She is my parents age and she looked like she's Michael Jordan's age now. I'm not even kidding you. I pointed to the television and I told my wife. I'm like Michael Jordan's fifty six. He's fifty six. Look at that woman. My mother I totally expected like white hair. Those are some obviously. This probably goes without saying really good genes today as for doing it. Today we celebrate humanity as we continue to quarantine ourselves through the Corona Virus Pandit Pandemic. 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Mushnik has made an appearance. So we if you want to check that out. Liberal Art Dot Com is where you go. Mike Ryan was obsessed during the break. Just looking up athletes Great athletes who have never made the playoffs. I don't know why this consumed you so but you seem to have taken just an unbelievably passionate interest in this. Oh go ahead give us all the information you've discovered well. I was looking at Brandon Marshall's numbers and it's known brandon. Marshall never made the postseason so I threw it out there without any sort of research. Is he the greatest professional athlete to not make pivoted? I said he's a pretty good one. He's always mentioned. But that's it. There were no names thrown in there. Still Gotcha were very disappointing in that regard because I thought for sure you would get in there because you love these or maybe they don't exist in your personal record book. They're not excellent if they don't make the playoffs now they're not to decide who makes the play offs and who does it make the playoffs so but Mike was certainly having a field day was nice to see him so engaged so excited about something. Yeah I was doing this by myself mainly but I was just knowing guys. Ernie banks no one's nibbling but it's okay I'm I'm in the mood for sports. I wish people had seen the way. The conversation went though because it was absolutely a terribly cocaine. Mike trying to engage anyone in a conversation about excellent guys who haven't made the playoffs just bouncing off the walls in here and nobody would bites. To God's let me explain what happened and by the way great Mr Cobb reference but let me explain what happened there okay. Mic gave the definitive answer. And once you do that and they're you know occasionally with a sports topic. There is one definitive answer. Mike gave it and it really ended the conversation during the break. When I said Ernie banks thank you to everybody who so helpfully pointed that out as I was very clearly just feeling this topic out. That didn't stop you guys from taking the normal approach and I appreciate that. Ernie banks is good but then the game becomes try to top Ernie banks. Well this was a conversation. He was only having with himself. We were all hearing. It sounded like a homeless person. Pushing a cart barefooted talking to himself. Yeah so I settled in on Joe Thomas and there was a bit of a I got a bit of a nibble from Roy which is already banks is better than Joe Thomas. I'm like when you tell the history of his position you probably rattling off a few names before you settle in on banks. I don't think you rattled off as many left tackles before you get to Joe Thomas Regardless Cocaine Mike Right before the break realizes Dick. Butkus never made the postseason. GotTA BE NUMBER ONE RIGHT. Dick Butkus. Wow now Marie engaged. I had no idea that bucket never made it to the post season. I thought the definitive answer was Mr Cobb. I mean he's named Mr Cobb five hundred homers shortstop hall of Famer. I thought that was the answer you have given me. You've given me something to think about here Butkus. And perhaps Joe Thomas put them on. The poll plays gamble at Lebatardshow. Who was better at what they did for a living. Ernie banks or Joe Thomas and also did you know that Dick Butkus did not make the playoffs. Because I think a lot of people will be surprised to know that Archie. Manning is there. Some definitive lists somewhere. I don't know how it is. You've engage me. I think it was the cocaine. I think we are a not traveling cocaine circuits right here. That's what we are. I have my regrets and you just casually referring to it as cocaine he mike. Can you be great without ever making the playoffs? Though I mean what are we talking about here? I mean we just mentioned a whole bunch of people who were great and Now question whether or not already banks was great or Joe Thomas or Dick Butkus that matter like how great is a never made the playoffs? I mean especially football. You had eight teams in each conference. I mean buckets overrated. I buy that. Thank you STU. Gods good to see you in prime form as always. I have another question. That is both terrible. It's unfair. It's an unfair question. I'm about to ask you but it's also an excellent a truly excellent hypothetical. Okay this is sent in by Angel. The Guy who takes care of most of the graphics on our show and he asks this question via tax and it is such a good question and it is such an awful question it really is. Would you still wish to be Michael Jordan? Even if it meant your father would be murdered. That's a great question is what that is. It's a great hypothetical question. Billy why are you shaking your head? No it's not a great hypothetical question and that's a good example as white joke shouldn't be talking on the show. It is a it is a great hypothetical question. Unfortunately it's only great as a hypothetical in this one you have an actual father being murdered but as a hypothetical without human beings involved just thinking about it. It's an excellent question. I have to correct myself at six in each conference. Not Eight Dick Butkus back. It is a terrible question is a terrible question. WanNa be Michael Jordan. If met my father was going to be murdered still got. Here's why it's not a terrible question because before I talk this out if I had asked you would you be WanNa be Michael Jordan? Under all circumstances you absolutely would have taken it if I showed you father murdered. You would've taken it as well. You're scared now. That's all that's happening.

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Cut the crap, Cam; Thuney tag again?

Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles

31:59 min | 4 months ago

Cut the crap, Cam; Thuney tag again?

"This is the Greg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick cattles. I'm back Greg back Greg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick cattles episode 7042. At least it feels that way let's start with you had a lot to school this week. I am a athlete podcast. He visited his buddies Brandon Marshall and and Ochocinco and had a lot to say let's first start off with the idea of Cam coming back. He sounded open 2 a.m. Would he take a one-year deal? Yes. Hell yes. He said he's you know getting tired of change. He would come back. Absolutely. He was asked if they had been talking. He said I can't say that. So first things first your thoughts on cam being open to a return your thoughts on the possibility of camera turning. Okay. Well first thing him being open to a return that should be totally expected because I don't exactly see anybody beating down his door to getting a job so long you have to keep that in mind and and also Nick I don't I don't know how you feel about it and and Xanax and I sort of talked about it last week when you were gone out to me in and listening to Boston Sports Talk Radio. And you know, you see the Twitter mentions, you know, anytime anybody brings up cam it seems to me the cam has now become like the boogeyman sort of like one of these topics like in politics where you can that's used as a wedge issue or something like that to basically Panic if people it's almost like it's almost like Boston Sports Talk Radio is turned into Fox News where it's like, you know, they're just trying to use Cam Newton to get people all riled up so that they call in and they took And this and that and and look like I think the most telling quote in that Nick or exchange in that interview. First of all, I thought the thought you was highly entertaining. I liked all of it. Some of it was weird. The Aaron Hernandez stuff was weird and somewhat disturbing. But when when I forget it was I think it was Brandon Marshall because he was like I got to do my job, but he's like, is there a chance he could return or that you could return there's always a chance for everything. They talking I can't say that to me. That was the most significant part because and if you saw the look on canvas face it was basically a look of they haven't called me. Like I haven't heard from them. Like, you know, I can't you know, if if if there were conversations going on and there were huge no possibility where him and Bill had discussed. Look we're going to try for XYZ. If it doesn't happen then we want you back. There might have been a little grin or a little wink or something like that. There wasn't anything like that in that sequence and to me that told you really where the Patriots are with Cam Newton, which is basically yeah cams coming back and he's starting this campaign a little bit odd because he now looks at the landscape. It says, I don't know who's going to want me back. Even when they brought up Washington. He perked up a little bit would you know Riverboat not you know, he's trying hard. Yeah to me. And so that's where I came out of it. I did not come out of it. And of course, you know, the the the the Pearl clutchers around here and things like Thursday. We're just like well, no, I'm really fearful about cams going to come back. Like people just need to has it always been possible. Yes. Do I think it's any more possible after this interview know unless you want to really believe that Bill Belichick is so egotistical that the only thing he really cares about is whether the quarterback is going to take a salary cap exposes platitudes and kisses ass all the time. If you believe that then maybe but outside of that to me nothing has changed. Yeah. I feel like jam is polarizing because of how he played last year lightning rod kind of topic and I understand what you're saying about Boston Sports Talk Radio and the idea of kind of throwing it out there and getting a reaction and having a feel for how people kind of view this entire landscape within the Patriots organization and what they're going to do at quarterback, but I've looked at this the same way from the dog Beginning Greg when the season ended could camera turn sure anything is possible to quote kg if the the Patriots swing-and-miss over and over and over again for other quarterbacks home and it's a break glass in case of an emergency. Yeah cam could come back and compete with another quarterback whether that's a rookie whether it's Stidham whether it's another veteran like Ryan Fitzpatrick. I don't know how may not unfold but when you're in the Patriots position, you have to keep all of the doors open, you've got to say yeah, you know, if if everything goes wrong, they could have a to z listed off a whiteboard right now and cam is like wires e and they say yeah could cam come back of course because he's on the Whiteboard but we have twenty-four twenty-five other options. Of course, they don't have that many, but they could sit there and say well no we like Mac Jones if he's there in 15 we pick Mac Jones know we want Jimmy Garoppolo if he's Springs free from San Francisco. Boom. We're in on him mark. Mariota lot of smoke around Mario did last week or two. It's Mayock relationship if he's available. We'd rather have Mariota than cam. So I think it's really context and it's some reporters off using certain semantics. You know, I don't know, you know GRT went on WEEI a week or two ago and said thirty-five forty percent. I think that rattle some cages that seems like a huge percentage for some people saying oh thirty-five to forty percent. So you're telling me it's almost fifty-fifty. I don't know if it's 35% I don't know if it's 10% I think there's a shot. I don't think it's very likely moving forward with Cam in this interview something riled you up regarding him and his covid-19 there were a lot and I know you'll get into most of them, but I just want to read a bit of a blurb can't talking about covid-19. Like I'm going to make a play. I know how to make a play in this system. It dictates by certain things and working extra with Josh he went on and on and on what was your main issue with camper talking about covid-19. It affected his role within this offense gray. Yeah, and in in a lot of my issues when you know, and he kept going on and on about this cuz obviously he was an excuse making money, you know, the maybe him and Belichick heart all that dissimilar and and considering that's a both of them are doing last season, but it related to the Covent test because I you know, Brandon Marshall is how many times is he going to say? How many times is Brandon Marshall going to say 15? / 75 like all right, we get it. You rushed 15 time for 75 yards in the opener when nobody knew what the hell the Patriots offense was going to look like cuz there was no preseason and there was no film. All right, we got it doesn't mean anything Brandon God. I can't believe he gets paid a day analyze football then it's like week 2 a.m. Got only goes on and on about that. But then like, you know, he's on top of the world and blah blah blah and then covid-19. It's practiced all that much. I think they practice once in that two weeks that came was out second of all. If they weren't already in I forget what the term was called, but basically like high danger protocol, which is what the NFL went to very quickly probably before the midpoint season where they made all meetings remote. I think the Patriots were remote during that time because of the fear of covid-19. Happen so what the hell is he talking about? But at least I will say Nick at least he acknowledged what we've talked about for a while in that the reason why it's hard for him to be the quarterback Patriots quarterback this past season and going forward is that he doesn't win pre-snap. He admitted he was becoming confused pre-snap. He wasn't even ready before the snap which was the problem the second half of the Season which leads to all the issues in this offense. At least he acknowledges it, but I don't know if that's fixable because his excuse is straight-up b s so if that's the case, how does it get better if he comes back? Yeah, and he just it seems like he kind of doesn't want to go full-throttle taking responsibility and accountability. Like he'll sprinkle it in and say, you know, I could have done this better. But ultimately he does always have caveats and the caveat is well. Hey covid-19 ology change and I think I don't think any of that is what happened, honestly. Yep. I don't think Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichick went into the next game after he missed Kansas City was that was Denver, right? I don't think they go into that Denver week and say oh well, okay, you just came back from Covent. So here's a bunch of new way. And there's a bunch of new terminal. It doesn't make any sense, you know, absolutely zero sense as as a matter of fact, it would make more sense. If she's a kind of took a step back and may be reverted to some of the stuff that they covered originally because they want to make him as he comes back from covid-19. 250 pounds. Yeah guy that wants to use his legs and he says he's trying to lose twenty like Ocho was right in that conversation like he needs to be around 2:20 like and if Cathy's a vegan and he's 250 and all that stuff like something's wrong there. Like no wonder he had issues and he looked lumbering and laboring running the ball after about week to like walk. He can't play that way. He's got to play a lot lighter than that and maybe that gives him a little bit of a chance. But sorry that was just a tangent something. I mean, it's a good point because you know when he sighed I think when a signed the video that came out, I'm pretty sure one of the story lines of him videos. Yeah. It was was that he was losing weight. That was one of the ideas, you know, he was vegan now he was found down he wasn't as big as it used to be but he was pretty big and I see yeah he is pretty big and I agree with you. I agree with Ocho, like if you're going to run you're going to play that style of football like dead. You don't have to look like Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson is almost too wiry for that position as much as he runs, but Russell Wilson, I think is a good, Russell Wilson is shorter by five or six then cam. But if you see Russell Wilson a lot of his weight is in his thighs like almost running back thighs kind of kind of deal the quads, you know, big quads and he's a bigger dude, but he's he's not lumbering. Like you said he can carry his weight. I think you've got to look more like Russell Wilson versus you know, what he looked like this past year one last thing. I do want to mention about the interview and I love when this stuff comes out because I think Belichick is so misconstrued because of how he is the media, you know, Belichick's up their people always make the mistake, you know. Oh, he must be miserable in life and he mother and people tend to believe the Belichick that you see at press conferences after losses or wins is the Belichick that you get on a sunny Saturday in the summer time, and I enjoyed camping. Always enjoy one guy say no listen, you don't really know Belichick because it's a peek behind the curtain and I I like the idea of no he's as as Camp said he's dope. He's dope. He's a dog. He does relate to the players More Than People expect he doesn't have fun. It's not a big circus like Bruce Arians. And and yeah, when it's when it's football time, it's grind. It's an everyday thing and you know, no days off and all that stuff and do your job, but it does relate to these guys and he does crack jokes and he is a human being and he does laugh every once awhile and I just I do enjoy kind of breaking that facade of of what people think Belichick is 24/7 365 Yeah, I agree with you and you know, I just think it's interesting about you know, Belichick the thing that I took away from that in in I thought I thought came did a good job of explaining what the Patriot Way was to him and how it's different and how he he liked it and he embraced it because he is a worker I do wonder and look the results speak for themselves. So I guess it's okay, but I do Wonder especially going forward with today's athlete and and trust me even me as a youth coach just in my time coaching, you know Sports and probably the last let's see. My kids are now fourteen probably in the last like eight years or something like that. You've seen a change in the in the kids and the parents and the let alone twenty years or what have you but You know, it's the grind the length of the grind and just it looked the results are there and they they must be great. In fact, they are great. But you know the mental grind that every day and I and we have heard some some people talk about this and I think even Brady's alluded to it but like, you know, that's off and and I think you could do it for three or four years stretches longer than that is tough but like the day-in-day-out grind were you have to and Camp talked about it having to be at a championship level every single day that's a lot and and I just I just wonder if going forward towards the end of Belichick's career whether that is going to continue especially without Brady there. We'll see but definitely established. No, I think it's a really good point and I do think it takes a certain individual be able to embrace what Belichick does for a long time. I think like you said you can get away with it for a couple of years three actually a kind of beers down and wears you down a little bit and eventually say okay I get it and I think that happened with Gronk for sure. I'm not buying that it happened so much what Brady I think? Yeah. Absolutely. I think Brady would have been able to you know stand the heat so to speak if he was given the contract extension that he wanted it is tagged day today, but yes, the madness begins offseason on the in this offseason. I think we're going to see a ton of movement not just with New England, but you know everywhere in the NFL you get that feel a lot of things are going to happen. A lot of things have already happened. I mean you had to franchise quarterbacks traded already. We expect the Sean Watson to be moved eventually here within the next couple of months. The draft is exciting, but it also off today with the tag and we start with the Patriots we start with Joe Tony. Is there any way on God's green earth Greg that tuning gets franchised again. You know, that's interesting Nick because I'm I'm probably going to write a column today on it. Cuz I've just and I think you and I have alluded to it before actually, I know we have thought I'd something's just bothering me about this that like look it basically comes down to this. Either Belichick wasted $15 this past year on tagging Joe Tunis for no reason and he lets him go. He doesn't tag him off. He doubles down and and tries to get something more than maybe an immediate. So basically if they would have let him walk last year which what is what they should have done and I know the reports at the time that the Patriots tag Tunis to give a signal to Brady and maybe that's true. Maybe that's not I don't know but they should have let go last year which would have led to a third-round calm pick this coming year there this offseason. So the only way that it's still even if they they say they tag and trade Tunis right now and they get a third-round pick for him. All right, so, all right, they got the same draft pick compensation, but you still wasted fifteen million dollars right to get them. Which you could have had this year. You couldn't like we've talked about instead of tagging Joe Tunis you signed Marcus Mariota last year to what the Raiders did or even a you know, a better wage contract as far as the Patriots go, they could have gotten a tight end. You know, what have you but I'm I don't know. I don't know how you feel about it, but I don't see Bill Belichick just doing what he did last year and just basically being like, all right. I just hope everybody ignores the fact that I just wasted 15 million dollars last year and we have one less third round pick this year off to get it next year. But let's just everybody ignore that fact. I just I don't know unless unless Belichick really did act rationally last year and try to entice Brady. It doesn't make any sense to me why Belichick did what he did last offseason and putting the tag on him for $15 and then this year just to let him go. It doesn't make any sense. It wouldn't really a dog. And if you're going to franchise him again, I can't imagine you're going to franchise him back-to-back years and have him can be about $18. Just so people know out there a little less about 17.8 something that would make even less sense because that's a lot. Then you should just giving them the extension last year and have them for four or five years. If you're going to give them, you know, thirty-plus million guaranteed or whatever the hell it's going to end up being so long. I just it doesn't make sense financially. I can't imagine that they're going to tag tuning again unless they're going to attack him to try to gain some leverage to work on a long-term extension took the tag him to gain an advantage to try to trade him to a team that needs an offensive lineman. I think it'd be interesting and now I'm just kind of thinking about this right now. There's been a lot of talk about Marcus Mariota off and the Raiders need interior offensive line help. So not really well. Well according to my I will say they need a Incognito comes back Thursday. 2 Right Guard games you next then I think is a free agent. They do need a right car, but they're offensive line has been a strength just to let you know. Well, well well agree to disagree on that. I don't think they were necessarily strong interior this year. I think Incognito is fading a little bit. I would not be surprised that they cut Incognito to save a little bit of money as a matter of fact with their cap situation happened. Yep, but you know, I could see something like that where Belichick says, okay, we're going to tag Tunis to try to move them two teams that need help right? Whoever that would be. Would it be you know, Washington or Chicago pick a team that needs offensive line help I could see that happening. The the only thing I will say and I was reading this and I think it was Jeff how I was reading. It was a really good point because I've been in the camp with Hey, listen signed David Andrews nine million or so per year. Maybe I should go out there see what's on the market he comes back. It gets a good deal from the Patriots. He's a leader. He's good at what he does, but then I was reading I think it was how and just the you know the versatility of Tunis birth. Think we can Overlook that I do think that's something that Belichick says to himself. Okay. Yeah, he's a guard and you know, we don't want to necessarily overpay a guard but he's a guard that could play center bulb in a matter of seconds as we saw this past year an emergency Duty we can put him at Center we can swing him around that offensive line. So I do wonder if that puts a little bit of extra value on Tunis for Belichick, but I just don't think he's going to be tagged other guys that we can look at here and I want to look at the ones because we only got a few minutes left. I want to look at the ones that I think could affect the Patriots like I I don't think that's going to affect the Patriots, you know getting if he gets tagged or not with Tampa. Chris Godwin could be an interesting one but wide receivers let's throw God went into the wide receiver Market with our holiday. Allen Robinson will Fuller Greg. Do you think the Patriots are players for any of the upper echelon top-tier wide receivers? This group know I think that I think that God wouldn't gets tagged by the box. I think the holiday gets tagged by the Lions. I think that Robinson gets tagged by the Bears will Fuller I think will be allowed to become a free agent, but he's not with the Patriots need and he's an he's an injury headache all the time his hamstrings not healthy and then you get into the the the tight ends Nick jonnu Smith in Tennessee. I love turns out of there is that he's going to be tagged and Hunter Hancock. I think this would be the scent. I think this would be the second tag for him wasn't he tagged last year or am I smoking but anyways, so they came to terms on a one-year deal. You might have been dead. Okay, but the rumors out of the Chargers are that Henry. We're also be tagged. I mean this is part of the reason why I don't go nuts over free agency and tell us off because there's so much wasted energy on guys who don't even hit the market and you know, we'll have to see what happens but I think a lot of those guys are going to be retained by their teams and I do one one name on that list that I gave you Nick that I think is interesting is in gokwe with the Ravens. Yeah, the Ravens took away and Juden both are I think both of them are are going to become free agents. I don't think they're going to tag either of them. I think they're basically going to offer them both the same. Deal and see which one takes it and so they'll retain one of them. I just I know I know Belichick loves in gokwe. I remember the joint practice that they had with the Jaguars last time. They they did that more than a few years ago. And I just remember Belichick just like talking forever with in gokwe. And I didn't even know who the hell this is before and God is even like a household name as an outside pass-rusher and I was like who the hell is built talking to and I noted I wrote it down Yannick ngakoue who the hell is that guy? And then all of a sudden he has like 15 sacks Chicago. Well, that's who he is. And so that's one of the names on that list that I think is interesting for the Patriots Yeah. I mean it would hurt if if jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry both were tagged. It'll be interesting the Titans also have Corey Davis. I don't think they're going to you know be worried about him as much cuz they have AJ Brown as their number one receiver. They probably see Davis as at least the number to wage. Kind of a an embarrassment of riches at the wide receiver position Davis put together a good season this year. I do like. Jonatha. I was thinking, you know, everybody was has been talking about Hunter Henry I have had my eyes on Jesus was thinking they might be able to get him for about eight million Henry Mike 11 to 12 million and and I think Smith brings a lot to the table, but if Tennessee does tag him that would hurt Chargers tagging Henry would hurt. Now your name Jared Cook, maybe a couple of other options that are out there eifert, you know, maybe Zach ertz gets released affiliate can't trade him. Kyle Rudolph. Those are the names you're looking at instead of you know, the two of the Premier guys that would be available. So that would stink Leonard Williams is also interesting with the giant. I think he's going to be top dollar kind of guy. I'd be surprised at the giants walk away from him. I feel like they'll get an extension done. And you know, the other names Trey Hendrickson I think is going to stay with the Saints Bud Dupree is coming off of a significant injury. So, who knows what what's going to happen? Him, it's not rhetoric is kind of interesting to me for the Cardinals is a part-time player for most of the Season then they started to play him a little bit more and he started to produce. He's an edge kind of a pass rush guy. He's almost I don't know. Maybe I'm way off base here, but he would kind of remind me of like a Joshua. I think you need somebody hungry who might be a little bit stronger on the edge. Yeah somebody with a little bit longer a long arms longer legs, like sort of, you know, hold the edge there red X a little bit more even though it does have long arms. That's why he plays taller than he is but Redick does not have the same arm length that does. Yeah, let's jump to the Boston Sports Journal member question of the day check them out at a $0.11 a day on their annual plan. You get top-notch analysis of all the Boston Pro Sports, of course, if you're a patch junkie you get a m p b s j gives you access to a ton of video analysis padora does on the coaches film indirect access to him and weekly chats long Sam has a question for you. Could it be that next season Greg wage? We're watching not Jimmy Garoppolo, but Josh Rosen and Cam. I don't completely rule it out. But you know, I will say this about Garoppolo off from talking to people around the team the past couple of weeks. I mean do are they are they hoping that Jimmy Garoppolo comes free and comes back off absolutely to do they have any feelings as to whether that's going to happen or not know they are there in that same boat as everybody else. Like they they are watching to see it's all dependent on whether the 49ers can find some way to upgrade over Garoppolo. And I think I'm from from talking to a few people around the league. I think, you know you're looking at they would probably make a run at Watson. I think Sam darnold might but here's the thing even if they get off. Sam darnold Nick that doesn't preclude them from also hanging on to Jimmy like it could be. It could very well be a situation where it's like. All right. Well, we want to see what you know, how much of a Reclamation project is Sam darnold, you know, maybe they sort of help each other in terms of young Jimmy and his his injury history. Darnold gives them a salt more solid backup, you know, they're in a competition. Let's see what happens and then maybe you get in a situation where closer to the season maybe trade Garoppolo, you know, what have you or at the trade deadline something like that if Arnold wins the job but you know some of the if they get a darnold, I don't think that precludes the the the 49ers from hanging on to him. So I don't think that's a guarantee but I do think that Josh Rosen first of all, I think he's under contract with the four years. Basically the Forty Niners are hoarding all the quarterbacks. So who knows what's going to happen? I mean even the Patriots don't know and that's why you don't suck. For anybody eliminating a anything including Cam Newton. We're just going to have we're just going to have to see how this plays out and there's a long ways to go. I know people are getting antsy and they look at Hunter Henry comments where he says, well, you know, I want to go where I'm going to get paid. And also where there's a good quarterback and they start to get nervous and they clutch their pearls and all this stuff. That's not really going to matter. I you know at the end of the day, I mean there there are very few even Hunter Henry probably won't even hit the market. There are very few free agents that can say. All right. Well, I'm going to pick and choose what I'm going to do because I've already made money. I've always been a title or what have you to point. There are very few guys like that. So don't worry about any of that stuff really it's going to come down to the contract that they are offered and then the the the free agents will will change so don't worry about the quarterback position have some patience. I know last season sucked but just relax and see what happens. Yeah, and the Jets are fascinating because the domino effect dead. Yes position that they make they could draft the guy at 2 they could trade for Watson. They could keep Donald and just be happy same thing with Miami at 3. They can keep to a they can track quarterback at 3 or they can trade for Watson. Those two teams are going to have a lot of say as far as where we go with the quarterback position and Donald is especially interesting because whoever trades for him. First of all, what are you trading? You know, I know over the last couple of days it's been thrown out there that the Jets believe they could get a second round pick for Donald if you're giving up a second-round pick it may be something else along with that for Donald if you're giving up that kind of package you've got to play on this year because you have to make a decision on his fifth year option and you've got to see you know what he is and how he you gotta understand who you have, you know, and if you if you give up a second-round pick you gotta play that guy Donald's not one of those, you know traded stash players and say Thursday. Well, we'll figure it out down the road. You know, maybe this year will have a veteran in there in a mentor and then Donald will come now. You gotta play that dude right away to see what you have and then make your decision so long. It's going to be interesting to see how all of that comes together and it's just a bigger part of just the quarterback Vortex that is happening with the NFL. There's a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks. There's only a few guys available and you know, you got Watson you got the draft picks. You've got Donald and to a there's a lot of lot of questions that I'm sure during this offseason. We're going to answer them. It's the Greg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick cattles everybody. Hope you enjoyed it and be safe be good. We'll talk to you soon.

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What needs will the Raiders address in the NFL Draft?

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What needs will the Raiders address in the NFL Draft?

"Return to blue chips status if that does happen we'll be we'll be beyond our way it's time for the Vegas Nation podcast with your hosts Heidi Fang Tonio Tiro Williams Trent round hopefully that can help thank you for listening Michael since we last talked the raiders have made several interesting moves a couple notable names were added just last Thursday particularly interested here in line occur Brandon Marshall we finally have Vegas born player on this team a guy who went to Cimarron memorial played at you and our and spent the last five seasons with the Broncos then he had the t this tasteful instagram post which he deleted also dismissed from George after some infractions he had there where do you see the courses career I think it is another example of the raiders just trying to add someone at the position before they go into the draft really hadn't had any sort of acquisition linebacker on a base three four defense with the broncos how quickly do you think hugh will adapt to the base for three that Paul Guenther runs I mean how do you imagine that he fits checkered past Michael Remember back when he was with the jets he was fined over thirteen thousand dollars for a very crude touchdown celebration You know the raiders were very clear that they wanted to fill as many holes as they could before the draft so that when the draft arrives they have some versatility to hit different physician for getting signed to Oakland Raiders team. What can you tell us Michael About Brandon Marshall in this signing well he's somebody who gives the raiders another covers all things silver and black here for the Review Journal you can always find them online at Gilpin? NFL or find his articles on review journal Dot Com the NFL. You probably spend a lotta time in nickel or dime defense depend on your athleticism and your ability to stack up in pass coverage and so Marshall to address the position aggressively in the draft he's certainly could still select linebacker but they'll feel better about where the physician going into martial has been playing inside I'm at the running back position since they lost marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin to fragancies and I say lost while knowledge in the fact that if raiders twenty either player the raiders of added Montas Perfect course among them by doing these sorts of moves the raiders might feel less of an urge or even requirement backer initially to start this season he somebody who obviously has some division experience having been with the Broncos for the past handful of years but stand the raiders linebacker core I'm sure he's played it before his past and the raiders are fairly multiple out of their defense so whether you're three four four three linebacker in the John's as they steal fit in terms of getting the best guys who are available so by adding some linebackers and Very Marshall not the first line ought to be any sort of issues criminal I well Marshall was a major in criminal justice we have the addition of running back Isaiah Crowell who's had a bid does a criminal justice major they're going to Isaiah crows questions about him but you know he's you know he's back he's been productive oh you should be in a veteran in this league there might be some period where his is my I have to get used to being a four man front but I wouldn't anticipate is am crow wells I guess fitting in here and will you be a problem for the raiders are not well first of all I wanNA highlight with transition that was mentioned Brandon Marshall The raiders do they want marshawn Lynch for a third season he is someone to prove in these past two years when he's healthy he can produce still they would come back I believe that marshawn Lynch wants to be a writer in two thousand nineteen easy on the raiders are the only team which he'd WanNa play and ultimately it'll come down but the question is horse can stay healthy raiders comfortable with moving in with him in there in future and so I would expect somebody to be the number one running back it's possible that we could see them circle around to marshawn lynch someone else but I really do believe that the raiders are going to address that position in the draft. Well let's jump that there's a guy named Josh Jacobs out there running back out of Alabama I've seen a lot of these mock drafts projecting that he may be a guy that goes to the raiders and the raiders is not on the roster today I think they find their number one running back in the draft draft comes and goes and they don't get that number one twenty four the twenty-seven pick that they have in the first round how much do you feel like this is somebody that is a viable candidate to go to the raiders in some respects he certainly fits what they want you look at what the readers want to serve their backs to do in the passing game pass protection running routes L. I wouldn't be surprised if we see tight end if one that the raiders love is still available late in the first round maybe we see in there or a running back as well and then around early second round I think that is fair window to expect the raiders to take a serious look at the running back position but there are a lot of needs on this roster we could talk all day of of a load where you have concerns about how much guy has left on those tires so be late I I or focused on this month you mentioned offense and the tight end position somebody who's been out there and we've talked about him here on the Vegas Nation podcasts up what they need to do defensively but even offense with Jon Gruden largely calling the shots he's shown that he's pretty aggressive when it comes to upgrading his offense of personnel how the raiders go about addressing all of these needs but offense Circling around and tied up is is is an area that the raiders you know he's a pretty dynamic back there at Alabama you really liked his usage there and that you know nick saving didn't run into the ground you know he is workload was never of that sort of have noah font out of Iowa I think he's somebody who has been very dynamic and his stock value seems to keep rising if the draft happened right now Michael in sometime in the draft despite all the moves the raiders have made adding veteran wide receivers we could also see a slot wide receiver additive this groups so we'll see we're do you see him going do you think he could land with the raiders what would they have to do to get him what's interesting how l. and so either of them you can make the case should be off the board before the raiders are on the clock at number twenty four overall and so if both are off the in terms of what teams plan is and I think we know the raiders plan is to draft a starting guards. Don't be at all surprised if we see that this month peters aren't drafting a starting guard tool who will be opposite gave Jackson this season a lot of indications can come from for agency do the titans go off the board because it's not just no fan like you mentioned he's got a teammate an Iowa TJ Hopkinson who is a first round prospect the positions again that you address you mentioned the defense and the gaping holes that still exists there on the roster the raiders last year allowed a league high dairy to lock down in coverage as long as the raiders needed to lock down last year because posing quarterbacks set so much time to sit in the pocket and raiders draft room to add a top tight end and I I should I will murthy starting guard is something that we need to keep an eye on I'd be surprised if the next around these players that are in place for you mentioned the NFL high yards per attempt allowed we knew are getting as little pressure strength of this secondary right now amongst the players that they have they have some obviously guys like Karl Joseph Out there there's Gary Connolly where do they build the point two yards per pass attempt right now they re signed there they're all Wurley so there's somebody that was in the system last year where do you see fourth round you know later in the draft in the Middle Rounds de when it comes but ideally the raiders would love have find value someone who could be their number one board might we see the raiders not go tied in there and we'll wait a little bit later maybe there is someone they like in the second third or not third I suppose but they don't WanNa pick there ride in I think of either of those Iowa tight ends are available at number twenty four overall the you you would stand to think that there would be some serious consideration he played free safety he played nickel corner in inverse order with the rams in Las in Saint Louis Van Los Angeles who's got rural potential at the cornerback position Karl Joseph finished year really strong these are two of Fridge McKenzie's final first round picks and they both showed potential the reports that I read on Nfl Dot Com seems to speculate that the raiders are going to trade up for a quarterback like drew lock interesting take and I've been reading a lot of these mock drafts looking into maybe too much but there's speculation out there that the raiders are going to trade up and one why is there this ongoing speculation that the raiders are going to take a quarterback and why so early I mean if they trade up let's say to the to trade with the forty guys and they're doing homework and and all that but again there has been no true indication yet That the raiders are looking to move on from Derek Carr right now from doing just about anything when it comes to draft the quarterback position so we'll wait and see ultimately but as much as we can tell that aside it doesn't Dan so he's got that schemers until the raiders really like a something that markets go Chris had he's much younger much more instinctive in the raiders so like they really upgraded their. Here's Sir I name I rattled off of the strength because of what he needs as a nickel shutdown type of guy that the raiders certainly hope he can be the research on quarterbacks but as of right now Indians can change I understand that but as of right now I'd be shocked if the Raiders Select quarterback in the first round on the quarterback is the raiders are getting you'd expect that high number it's very you're asking a lot out of your secondary I don't care sold pro bowlers off rose you're asking a lot of any second Our draft a quarterback in search around drew lock is someone that they were impressed by having coached him at the senior bowl in Mobile Alabama in January I he has a reputation of being willing to move mountains in order to make it happen so his track record and personality is such that people can't discount him I always have to somewhat protect myself and I speak in total certainty when it comes these sorts of things especially when it comes to Jon Gruden quarterbacks if he falls in love with the guy the last year namely after the Kenzi was fired but both those guys will be a big part of things moving forward Eric Harris as more of a rotational guy someone's they added uh-huh Brown in signing tyrone Williams and signing trump round all these contracts secured these top dollar guys for the next two years or so Eight of Antonio Brown Landry Jones than you also have Mike Glennon added so what do you make of those two signings and the competition that you can expect again Derek is franchise quarterback you look at every move at the raiders have made this offseason signing trading in signing wait and wait and wait until a guy gets and then pick car any manner zone design that punter scheme it up it didn't matter what he was scheming up could it can be a you know the certainly asset in small number of sub packages Marcus joyner is probably should have been my first name when you don't do those moves traditionally if you're then going to switch to a rookie quarterback's and I haven't heard any conversations that indicate the writers who are the speculation I haven't seen anything substantiated that would indicate this is real and everything that I've heard that this is not real it's just talk so yes the raiders are aww cure but the raiders are going to draft a quarterback in the first round the second round and so forth maybe three it could happen but you'll get the roster today four artifacts that they've signed have signed the contract and the expectations that that will be the case come may these same four quarterbacks Hi Derek Carr in two thousand nineteen eighty McCarron he opened the season as the one and only backup to car and that was the case for the burn of the year we'll see in a move on from Derek Carr this season I expect Derek Carr will be the franchise quarterback in two thousand nineteen I look forward to when the draft is over so we can stop talking about the possibility niners wouldn't the idea be that they go after a guy like Nick Boza yeah so I don't know how to say I'd be shocked the raiders or under contract right now three backups under contract right now is out on April fifteenth when the Raiders Start Their voluntary spring workout program and they're installing the offense because the raiders are going to be drafted one early maybe again draft one day three one of those four can be released at what do you make those quarterbacks out it because we have one who is a former teammate. There's there was nobody to get after the quarterback and so The strengths of the Raiders Secondary I think you look at Garin colleen and he can take the next step this is somebody the other two obsolete or they're two guys who just seem to have demonstrated all this potential and Jon Gruden wants both of them to be behind Eric or does he and league some and they will compete for the number two and maybe number three jobs I say maybe because his possible the raiders only keep one quarterback dance and you know Ota's are about to begin all of the things of competition taking hold all three of those potential backups will be in the building the raiders have in the first round between a guy like De'andre Baker or a guy like Byron Murphy which of those two do you think would be a better fit for the raiders table to learn together all starting on equal footing to push sewer backups behind car all right I think we've covered a lot of what could happen not like any of them and the trades for guy the way he did bridging McCarron on September first so we'll we'll see how it all goes but the whole point was to having all ah knowing the nicotine German you've been back up at the end of last season for the raiders and started week one for the buffalo bills I mean these guys have some NFL experience who've been okay so let's look here you know we talked a little bit about the secondary if you're looking at that position cornerback defensive back at the twenty four the twenty seven it was some of the possibilities at quarterback hopefully we've exhausted that speculation right my good good good added Ryan grant also they also released Seth Roberts so it looks like at the wide receiver position. They're going to have a full house already Dan what the raiders take and I think it'll be dictated by what these quarterbacks show I mean to one of 'em really separate himself from the rest the raiders have done in free agency they sign lamarcus joyner they signed Nevin Lawson former former starter for the Detroit lions they brought back would be a bit surprised if we see either cornerback via raider this draft initially before they made the moves that they did at wide receiver abilities I ultimately don't know if I see the raiders taking a cornerback in the first round and no it's been projected to them and shoot maybe it does happen but you look at early on pretty aggressive second year tenure have gear on Collie it doesn't look like the type of moves from a team that is also looking to invest a premium draft pick thought for sure they'd be going after a guy like decay metcalf but we see now the all the moves that they've made with tyrel Williams with Antonio Brown and then just last week eight and then when it came time for him to officially sign he took his physical and he failed him so that beautiful contract was no more uh-huh quarterback there yes they are working out cuyler Murray and winning as has hit the different top quarterbacks in the draft you know they're meeting with the ensue during training camp once that gets underway yeah Mike Lennon is someone who could experience Landry Jones has back of experience the raiders who had interest in Ryan grant last year under a different general manager have interested had interested and again this year You know the constant is I again it could be surprised and maybe the raiders are in amored with somebody at corner that they do take but with the needs elsewhere which includes safety I watch Washington redskins worth noting their head coach by Jay Gruden John Gruden's younger brother and those to

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Brady + Antonio Brown, Packers, Harden to the 76ers?, Nick's Week 9 NFL Tiers

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Brady + Antonio Brown, Packers, Harden to the 76ers?, Nick's Week 9 NFL Tiers

"Looking for something new to watch choose from thousands of documentary films and factual series right at your fingertips with curiosity stream available wherever you stream videos for. Only twenty dollars a year. You'll have access to curiosity streams vast library with new films and series added every week. So whether you want to explore mars or travel back to ancient civilizations curiosity stream has the content that empowers you to dive. Deep into your favorite subjects and explore new territories to it's sure to entertain enlighten and inspire. Get yourself access to the best documentaries on the planet and award winning exclusives sign up and learn more at curiosity stream dot com. good morning. Everyone welcome to first things. First i am general wolfe alongside nick right brandon marshall. kevin wilde's. We're all a little bleary eyed shirt. Blurry out a lot of state of late last night nick. How you feeling this morning. I thought i'd just randomly question to you. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. That's how i'm feeling this morning. That as it is causing let me tell you. I'm feeling even better. Because brandon marshall's shirt. That is warning. That shirt is wakened. Y'all i look good go-to now. We are settling on this show brandon. Let's talk some sports. it's what we do. It's what we will do for the next couple hours as the tampa. Bay buccaneers prepare for their big rematch with the saints on sunday will do so with some added weaponry antonio brown clear to practice with the day. We all know how happy that makes one. Tom brady brady so eager to get on the same page with his new wide receiver. He has him living with him. Av moved into. Tv's house and g that right there. My friends is a reality show. here's tom. new tenants. antonio's a good friend of mine and again we've got to know each other pretty well over the years so he's just getting settled in. I know he's looking for places but it's just nice to be able to to have around you know we're getting to work in. He likes to be integrated into what we're doing and big transition for him moving across the state and really not knowing anyone so again just trying to be a great teammate. And help someone out you know is a friend of mine. Okay brandon. sorry before we need an explanation. What is the deal with inter dennison. I think they did this. New england as well. What why do they have to live together. There's gonna be a big part of each other's lives. Explain this to me why i mean. That's i mean tom city. He's trying to be a great teammates in the in. Two things can happen. When you're trying to build chemistry on feel expedite that process and then off the field being a good mentor right. Like sometimes those relationships are built when i start seeing my teammates. It also coaches off the field seeing them around their husbands their wives their children. That's what i was like. Oh they're human right because sometimes we when we walk into that building. It's all about being a superhero. You know you can't show any weakness. You can't show that you're hurt. You can't have any down moments but when you're outside of of the facility now you're seeing people smile for the very first time coach manzini on his show. He might be one of those guys that you look inside the building. Does this guy have heart. Does he even smell the all about you. See him around his wife and kids like he smiles. This is amazing so when you're able to see coach man genie as a human then. That's when you when you're able to say you know what coach. I understand what you're trying to accomplish. You know i'm gonna listen to you. And i'm a i'm actually moving direction. You want me to move so. I really liked this. Move because it really sets up the team for success in antonio brown needs it to be quite frank. So dig into that brandon like the most optimistic view of this is that tom brady is going above and beyond to port antonio brown on the right track if he's not on the ray tracking and keep them on the right track and sort of like reduce any outside influence by literally putting me in the walls of his house. So do you think this is all about football or brick. Actually do this tell me what percentage of this do think is about football and what percentage of you think of this is like outside the lines twenty percent football while i mean i i. Did this and i know tom brady's being intentional here. I'm moved in with gino smith. I was going into the later years of my career. I wanted to win. I wanted to be successful. I remember going to the new york jets and say the first thing that i'm going to do is is far in the room and gino smith's house because now i'm able to be intentional every single day. Walk in and say okay. What are we doing today or do you want to go over and he plays. Do you want to watch them today. What books are we reading on leadership. So i was able to build that rapport. And when you do that it actually gives you the opportunity to hold each other accountable because when it gets rough and you just know me as the superhero then suit superheroes battling but when you know me as a human as a man then. I'm able to say antonio brown. Gino smith like i don't i don't understand what you're doing. Jay cutler was able to look at me and say brandon. What are you doing right. So i love this situation for antonio brown because eighty percent is about his mental and who he is as a man all right. Listen folks i. I think we do a really good job and it is an intentional job on this. Show not to pat ourselves on the back of at all times when possible keeping the discussions about the actual games on the actual field or court as as it were. Because that's typically what you're here for in this instance though. We are being negligent if we don't at least acknowledge and discuss why this is so odd. And why at least for me. It's so shocking. Since antonio brown last lived with tom brady he has been credibly accused by two different women of sexual misconduct or assault and eat is be on shocking to me that tom brady. Who has a pretty sterling reputation. Even though i poke fun at him it is older age. Nobody takes shots at tom. Brady the guy. The husband the father the man any of those things that he continues to attach himself to someone then he doesn't have some long standing relationship with he didn't win championships with he. He had one good half a football with and wild. You've been tom brady. Fan for basically the entirety of your adult life does not strike you as more than curious that he seems to care less about. Antonio brown's very deserved reputation not only from those allegations but from the countless videos or texts or tweets or instagram's that we've seen that he's not only vouching for this guy to join the team but literally saying come live with me like wild for me. This is that is the part of this. I can't figure out no i know. I understand that in brandon. It makes me think we even when we listen to tom. Brady's quote that their relationship is far deeper than just the onfield patriots highlights of one game against the dolphins. It must be me. Tom reports that that tom brady hooked him up with tony robbins strategy. So what it feels like. There's some sort of under reported mentorship happening that that is now just coming to light. But i don't know if we know the roots of this relationship as deep. As obviously tom brady antonio brown. Maybe some light on it one hundred percent nick. You're one hundred percent right man like when you look at guys off to fill. You have a responsibility to be someone. That is a leader in the community. You just comes with the territory whether you like it or not i. I was a guy. It took me four years to understand that. And we have we have this saying called football his family and what they mean by that. Is you know you really care about that guy. Now there are some people will look at you and say i only care about you as the player because i just want to win the super bowl. I just won't win but behind the scenes. There's guys like rod smith rod. Smith was a guy in my life that literally to the set to the side every single day and say how can i help you grow off the field. How can i help you grow as a man. So yes you know on the field. It looks a little awkward. Is tom brady does he. Just care about this guy is the player is he just trying to use them to win the super bowl but behind the camera behind the scenes. He's doing things that help him grow as a person and you have to be able to respect that right like yes. There are some troubling allegations. But the same time you know if you take the proper steps you can help somebody mature. I came in. Nfl is a boy. And i left a man. I saw thousands of of boys enter into the nfl. And leave a man if you make it pass a year or two years in the national football league you will leave that game as a man so for me. They also opportunity like it's not just about ause. Like how do you pour into the next generation. And i think this is what tom brady is doing saying. Look you living with me. We'll show you what a family is supposed to look like. How are you supposed to raise their kids. How are you supposed to communicate which wife so is so much more than i learned in the locker room to tout. I learned how to tie italian. The locker room. I learned how to shave my face in the locker room. I was twenty two years of age. And i'm gonna give it to you in the sec. I was twenty two years of age when i learnt these things. In the denver broncos locker room also had tough conversations with coaches and players to say. Brandon is not all about football when you see the hall of fame speeches. What do the guys talk about. Do they talk about their money. Do they talk about the fame. They say i missed a relationships because the relationships are deeper than just football. Nick and i buy all of that. The part of this. I just want to remind the audience of antonio brown is not twenty two years old as you were discussing. He's thirty two years old. And by any definition that's grown man and so i'm not saying that at thirty two you're done growing. You're done evolving. But he is not some young lost player that trying to find his way and then league a decade been been old enough to vote for almost fifteen years like the idea that he is at the place. Brandon was in when brandon was kind of really some of his real. I don't wanna say issues but some of the things that you were going through your life mental you gotta ask. Health advocates potential. We got to be one hundred for sure for sure absolutely and you're never too old to address mental health. I get all of that but but decision making and things like that thirty two years old gin and so it just isn't a young guy that brady's taken under his wing. And i just i find it genyk. Curi- yeah and you have to antonio brown doesn't take this gesture for granted because frankly i don't think he's gonna get another chance after this on all right. Take a turn talks. Aaron rodgers can he and the packers still win. The nfc despite green bay standing pat the trade deadline again green bay next first things first stress of daily life ways on all of us whether you're an elite athlete or just a regular person trying to get through the day muscle pain muscle tension. That's a real thing. 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It's a double header from the spring league in elite professional football league featuring some of the biggest names from detroit file programs in the country. It will start on easter stern today. On f s one and fox sports one wide receiver brandon. Marshall got his hand. you can't see trust. i'll let us head up. Green bay where the trade deadline came and went and the packers as many predicted also seeming came and went. They were jointly. Close to trading for wide receiver will fuller but from what. We're hearing the packer. Brass could not come to an agreement on compensation and so in keeping with green bay's reputation another deadline passes without acquiring more help for aaron rodgers. Let me start with you. How should feel after no meaningful moods at the deadline. Why so many motions here. Geno you say compensation. I absolutely hate this as a player. And we talked about compensation. Because you know what you're going to get out of out of an established player whether he's a pro baller all pro. Our visa god is going to come in and just ask some debt. You know what you're gonna get you enough film to to be able to make that determination we don't know what we're gonna get. We go into the draft. I don't care how many scouts you throw at this guy. He could be a number one overall. Pick and be a bus. He can be the greatest wide receiver in. Ncwa history and he makes it to the nfl. And you don't know so for that reason. I hate when we talk about compensation because when when you have won an all time great quarterbacks i would probably lean towards the side of being aggressive. We're gonna talk about more later like that's my type of approaches because like you. You only get one chance at this. Sometimes like it's hard to win the super bowl hell. i'd never even made it to the playoffs. So it's hard to get there and when you have an opportunity to potentially win it you do everything you can but i want to say this because we talked about it yesterday nick. I don't think it's about adding. I think it's about adjusting to me. It's more of a scheme issue. Because i don't understand how you go from being probably the hottest team in the nfl to trending in the wrong direction. Something is going on here in june. I gotta watch more film. I need to see this week. I need to see tomorrow. Thursday night football and then next week and then i'll be able to tell you what's going on here because when you look at this team from the beginning of the year to where we're at now is something funky nick all right. So before i address the packers just for the most loyal first things first viewers. I just want to see you guys. Call it what i did. That now makes it three straight days that brandon marshall before eight am eastern has taken a by shot at baker mayfield. You guys catch that. You could be the number overall who's gonna about. We know. say light. And say i know but you stayed on topic i was going to let it slide. Okay so the packers when he came to compensation the great. Seth payne who played in the nfl and did in. Houston i think he made a good point because part of it was. The packers wanted the texans to pay part of willfuller salary. Seth payne put the packers. Tried to use the bill. O'brien coupon code only to find out. It was expired. Like those trades. Don't exist anymore. If you're going to trade with the texans going to happen is somewhat fair trades so the packers bowed out a bit but why i am partially bothered that the packers didn't make a move but i'm almost more bothered. The move they didn't make was this move meaning. I think they have a fundamental misunderstanding. Of what their problems there. They are not a receiver way. They're not an offensive weapon away. Their problem is they are not a big tough team. Run defensively their problem is beat up against teams that want to beat them up so they're focused on adding rims to the fancy sports car but once again you wouldn't you pull into the garage. You see. Foundations cracked roofs leaking. And so when we saw a dozen defensive players get traded. Was that not a good analogy wild when you see a dozen just traded eat and the packers aren't in on it to me. It shows a misunderstanding of what their issue is wild agree. I didn't know. I didn't know if the offense was the car in the defense was the garage. And the polit okay. My apologies bad job. I know it's a decent job you know. It's a good car now. You actually listen to nick while actually listen to him. I just let that stuff going one ear out. The other way i have a private transcriber transcribe it and then i get it on email and i read it all back to my kids at night. That came up as a decade as the end there. You're supposed to be good. Hey here's the thing about the packers. The packers don't need will fuller. The packers have a fine often. So nick is right. Here's points per game. Seahawks changed packers. Okay bucks steelers. All about thirty almost four hundred yards a game or night. Best in the league in two of the teams are cowboys in falcons. Were just throw the ball and lose anyways. So they're good. They're good teams. The idea that we should like bang on the packers for not adding wolf older so they can get even a little bit better. Cr slow. I think it's just a non story jenna our friends and let's see where they are so they've got the packers with the third best odds at plus five fifty to win the nfc that despite them standing pat at the deadline right now. The favorite with the seahawks at number two. So it's box seahawks so bring them back to you. Can the five and do packers win the nfc with the roster. They have right now. Oh this guy again. You know what you have aaron rodgers. something funky is going on right now. Jenner aaron rodgers. Absolutely guys like aaron guys like russell wilson guys like patrick mahomes can single handily win you. Five six games themselves. So yes would they were doing at the beginning of the year. They can get back to that one hundred percent. So here's the reason why the packers can still win the nfc and in a little under ten minutes. I think we're gonna unveil the latest tears. I worked all night. You're doing other things overnight. Finding new idea what's going on in the world at large. I've just been crunching numbers with the committee on the tears. So we'll see where the packers are. The reason why i still think they can win the nfc because the nfc is a surplus of good and a scarcity of great in the nfl. There are right now. Two great teams with a team with great potential. It's kansas city pittsburgh. Baltimore and then the next six teams are all in the nfc but they all have an obvious hole or two so seattle. Looks like the best team. The defense is awful tampa. Their best game has been maybe the most impressive game. We've seen all year by anybody. The win over green bay but we also saw them lose to the bears. And then come this close to losing to the giants. The hair down no no brandon. Do you love you. And so i think the packers have a defensive problem. I don't think the using the bucks are great teen. Because i don't think there are great. Yes i think they're great team. You're the only one. You're the only one that don't think that they're great team. Because of your hatred for tom brady about i have to laugh. It's one hundred percent and has to be you. Have one of the best defenses. You have all time. Great quarterback still getting it done right offensively. You're adding antonio brown. You have other weapons getting back healthy. Why aren't they the great one of the greatest teams. Just hold on. Then let me let me ask you a question real quick. If that's the case. I know how high you are on seattle and you think tampa has a great team. Then i would imagine you. Think the packers while they might be alive. Their chances are incredibly slim. Like is is that right. You think the packers. They're only the only way for them to thread. The needle is for aaron rodgers. Jr go into god mode for a month to just play the best play highest level. He's ever played for a month. Is that the path to you. Yes i think that the odds that geneticists showed us are correct. And i think that if aaron rodgers play like he did at the beginning of the season one hundred percent he can be anybody you can put the kansas city chiefs and also the pittsburgh steelers together and aaron rodgers will have a chance. Aaron rodgers playing lights out. That's why these last three four weeks have been alarming. Because it's like how do you go from that to training in in this direction. Nick mentioned he spent the night crunching those numbers with his committee all night. All the numbers called me about fifteen different times to ask my opinion. He's going to reveal his nfl tears. That's next to you. do not want to miss it. This is good. I i i baby. Let's tack back here at eight. Am on a wednesday morning. Which means it's time for nick to reveal his latest. Nfl here's nick. You and your committee went deep into the night this week as we get ready for week nine. You're in the national football league. Buddy take us through it park. You tell us who this committee is. Tell us there's not enough. No i cannot. I cannot tell you that maybe at the end of the season they'll reveal themselves right now. They feel like their anonymity allows them to be as sparing honest as possible. Now listen i can take the pulse of the country. I know what day it is. I understand what's going on in the national news. And i understand that these are the results. Everyone's waiting for updated tears. New names on them except for the bottom bottom to remain the same. The jets the jets. The nfc stays the nfc's the third bottom tier going from bottom up. We've changed the name minutes here to mock draft season. All those fans of those teams staring mock drafts except for the texans draft picks because of bill. O'brien but everyone else mock drafts up now to the teams actually matter a bit hanging on barely. My chicago bears my beloved chicago bears. I've got to say uninspired with their offense as of late my beloved cam. Newton and wild love patriots. I've been uninspired with their play as of late. But they're still alive san francisco. Just the quarterback got hurt detroit and oakland. Kind of middling. Now let's move on to the top form appears. Let's move onto the teams that really truly matter. We will start with the playoff threat to your your sous on. They're all of a sudden good god. That's a tongue of my lowest music. The miami dolphins above great coach. Brian flores you know who's next to them who also moved up. One of the teams brand was high on the colts philip rivers. Are you gonna get good. Philip or bad philip who knows but dirtiest leonard back makes them dangerous and in the browns that dock them too much because they lost the game that they lost this week. I would argue that. No one could have one well. The actually obviously oakland gonna one. Let's move on in. The browns argue that now to the teams that truly matter super bowl eligible folks. I will stake my reputation. As america's preeminent prognosticator on this the super bowl champion is going to come from one of these top three tiers every other teams just length for participation trophies the ravens and seahawks however have moved down from top contenders to this tier because the number one contender. The clear team most likely to take out. The champs are brandon's beloved pittsburgh steelers and then there's of course the champs the chance stay the champs i know they're they're blowout wins. Don't count anyone except for me put so there is. There's the updated tears. Unlike last week brandon. I am certain there's going to be a very quick segment because you have no issues whatsoever because this week they are florida. Why have so many issues first of all. When i saw that these tears i was like why did he change the names of the tears like i was enjoying them and i was like man. Nicholas throw me off. I had a game plan then. I realized like does these mock these markelle rankings. I love it so great job with that but when you back the tears nick i don't understand why you won't respect the seattle seahawks and the tampa bay bucks. They should be right there as a contender with the pittsburgh steelers they are that good so i gotta i got i gotta look at you there in your eyes and say brother you get you continue to get this wrong. Love how you have the chance there but then also last week okay. Let's go down to the nfc east. Someone has to win this division. Nick wild petitions last week do you listen to. The people. does the committee listen to the people. I would like to see the philadelphia eagles. Okay as a playoff three. Can we get this done. Wow okay so. The committee thought long and hard about that because there is a bit of lack of tear integrity because by the rules. One of those teams is going to make the playoffs. That was wild point point brandon. We thought about it and we talked about it. And the resolution we came to this someone from that divisions we can move up but the committee but wild what we need is for someone from that division to win some non divisional games so like philly got a win again but it was against the nfc east. So you're beating up amongst each other. We need some out of division. Wins if the nfc's wants any respect whatsoever when we watched that eagles cowboys game wild. And i'll throw it to you. We actually got to see in real time. What would have been like if you just let a fan play quarterback and we got to see play so the general in the nfc east art. Lyles go ahead like that. Go hugging kevin wilds of groton. Connecticut formerly petitioning the tier committee to move the cardinals to super bowl eligible. Here are my reasons number one literally. They just beat the seahawks who are tier above them. They're literally better than them. We just saw. They are five and two point. Differential is plus fifty seven versus seahawks. Plus forty one. I've number one reason. Move the cardinals number. Two wildly underrated defense. They give up twenty point nine points per game the bach twenty point. Six three steelers who we always talk about. Give up twenty point three so unless there is a point. Three difference that matters to the committee. I'm saying it's not the cardinal deserve to be up in the final reason piggybacks on your last reason. They have a potential matchup against the eagles. This would anthony the saints currently have it but the cardinals could sneak in philadelphia. It's kind of like a low key by in for those reasons. I- titian the committee a move the arizona cardinals up to super bowl eligible. So here's the thing. Those were the toughest omission. I'm not gonna lie wild. You're plugged in. I'm going to have to talk with the committee to see if they're leaking you the minutes from our meetings because they were absolutely the team we debate in the longest and the reason that they are not quite where you would like them to be. Twofold one is due the loss of chandler jones chandler. Jones has been one of the most underrated defensive players in the league. The last decade some of those defensive numbers wilde's we feel are a little inflated due to prior to chandler jones injury. And you worry about their ability you're gonna have to beat seattle and or green bay to make it to the super bowl. Do they have enough of a pass rush to slow down those offenses without chandler jones fair and the other reason brandon. Is i personally now. This was a controversial opinion amongst the committee but my vote counts for two. I need to see a little more a little more from kyle. Little more cuyler highs are incredibly high. But i feel like right now. He's at a place and there's not a knock on him. He's a young player using played play season the half in this league his low. You don't yet know the level of consistency. We don't know quite weakened weak out what we're going to get from him and if they are to make the playoffs brandon clip kingsbury not never coach playoff game. Obviously damn near almost never coached a bowl game at texas tech cliff kingsbury the head coach in those spots that concerns me also as far as the cardinals but they were the toughest omission from that next here. Okay no i love. Their brand of football arizona can easily move up a tear while. I think you did a phenomenal job of laying that out. Hopefully they listened to the people. I don't know what type of government this is. What branch it is. But nick seems like you. Run this yourself. You keep talking about this committee you keep talking about people counter minutes right we want. We want you guys to listen to us. We the people know we're talking about move. Their cardinals up moved to seattle seahawks up to number one contender. Or you got to change that that title and also the tampa. Bay buccaneers your hatred for tom. Brady continues to get in your way. You are one of the smartest on television breaking down all sports. Do not let your hatred for tom. Brady destroy your credibility. please don't okay. So committee anticipated that there would be some personal attacks. And so we're ready for those. But i do have some good news for you brandon if the tampa bay buccaneers. I promise you this. Couple of weeks ago. I said if they be waiting petir we move them up onto your and we did there up a tear higher than they were. The committee has decided one could say prematurely. If they beat the saints they'll move up again in june. I think we're going to discuss that here. Maybe i'm wrong. But i think we have to put them up great slate of football this weekend. A bunch of awesome games all right. Check out these three big ones. That'll be tv's this weekend. Starting thursday night football tomorrow on fox net what outcomes you're beginning to volt any teams up tier or or perhaps move anyone down exactly right. If green bay loses the san francisco. They're gonna have to drop. We just said on the line for saints bucks if the bucks win. They're going to have to go up but the sneaky important. One brandon is colt ravens because the ravens the chiefs they lost to the steelers. One could argue the next team in the afc after chiefs ravens. Steelers one could argue. It is the coach. Someone say the titans but the colts flying under the radar if they lose to the we after re evaluate baltimore this year in its entirety. So those are the games that could have the biggest impact on what these look like. Next week i agree with you. I really like the indianapolis colts because of what they can do on defense and in offensively you do have the pieces there. But it all comes back down to philip rivers and you said it earlier. So philip rivers if philip rivers can get it done and and this is a good philip rivers. They can easily go in there and beat the baltimore ravens nick. It's huge game to let us put that on the burner for second. Take a turn. Talk about the hottest rumor in the nba. This morning guests. Who is rumored to be going to philly beer respiratory joins the conversation to discuss. First things first got his own tier smart. I aaron rodgers leading need division-leading packers against the san francisco. Forty niners need up forty niners. It all starts at seven thirty eastern four thirty pacific on fox bennett bell network and streaming on prime video can wait to see that back here with crisper star. Now how about this report from the nba. Yesterday the seventy sixers are expected to pursue rockets star. James harden this just days after they hired four rockets. Gm daryl morey as the president of basketball operations mori and hardened success has been in lockstep so far and a beard in the city of brotherly. Love is a great album title but a package for harden would have to include one of the sixers stars. Should they offer. Ben simmons in a deal for james harden first of all. Let me say this. I don't think this trade is having a bit. James harden is going to end up in philadelphia. Why in the world would the houston rockets. Do that. You wanna back court of ben simmons russell westbrook. That's the worst shooting back court. Nba they may not even make the playoffs out west. And i just don't see why in the world houston. Do this. remember also been simmons is somewhat injury prone. Okay so. But i'll play along. Let's say it could have an eventphiladelphia without question. I absolutely give up. Ben simmons mike scott zaire smith whatever it has to be to get james harden james harden is one of the best scores. We've ever seen obviously a first ballot hall of famer still in his prime. He spreads the floor spaces the floor. That would give joel embiid. More room to operate inside it would balance out the team. And here's what people forget about. James harden without mike d'antoni hardly has a really well rounded off into the game. He is not just the shooter. he's a playmaker he can pass. I think under doc rivers his office would be more balanced. He wouldn't score quite as much. And i think he to bias hairs and joel embiid involved so i love it if if they had a big three of james harden joel embiid answer bias harris. I think they go from being bind brooklyn milwaukee and boston and maybe even toronto in miami to being right there on paper with brooklyn as the best team in east. So if i could do it. If i'm philly i'm jumping at it. So it almost everything. Broussard said correct. If they if this were to happen they become. I'll take a step further. They're the favorites in the east. So let's circle back. Why would houston do this. I can think of to legitimate reasons. One is houston knows their window right now is closed and so getting younger player. In ben simmons. Getting a guy who's game still grow more. in ben. simmons might be attractive to him. The other reason. They might do this if i may say is because there are only has Let's call it liquidity problems and if they were able to construct a trade where you get off some bad contracts as well like eric gordon's contract where you are able to. All of a sudden trim some of that future payroll which i know tillman for titas not excited to pay for a non contender. Then maybe it's possible wild. What i think is most likely is that this doesn't happen. That simmons and embiid played at least one year together with maurice surrounding them with pieces and with dr coaching them. And they have a massive upgrade in the front office and a pretty big upgraded head coach. But if it were to happen. I look at the sixers as potentially the second best team in the entire nba. Yeah i agree. Sham said it was a non-starter but like prasada. Play along and the fact that the story came out that moore was interested in hard was not really news. It's not news that like you know your interest in the news if riyan is interested in you and that's the only way that this could actually happen goes up and says hey you know what i want out on thirty one years old and i'm tired of just being a middling team in the west and like laid it out or start like i can go to the east to really make a move because think i know everyone thinks. The rockets were four seed. But they were sort of a four seed in sheep's clothing or wolf's clothing whatever animal you wanna use because they had forty four wins same as the thunder same as the jazz in the mavericks had forty three wins so next year. You're probably going to have a resurgent wolves team and you're definitely have the warriors in there. So if i told you brandon. I'll put you on the spot here. That's more likely. The rockets missed the playoffs or win the championship. Which way would you go. Miss the playoffs. Yeah words kevin. You took you took the words out of my mouth. Sometimes we post this too much from the angle of the organization. General manager guys. Who are making the decision. Lebron james shifted that culture. In sports years ago. When you went from the cleveland cavaliers to the miami heat. We all remember the story when he did that. He show every single player including myself. That you can't control your own destiny. So if i am james harden i am looking at this situation in houston like look. I may love this city. I appreciate the guys in his locker room. I appreciate the people in this organization. But it's about winning a championship right now. 'cause every day we sit up here on only shows and we talk about well. He's a great score. He's all time great score but he can't win. Well does that. Does he want that to be his legacy. I don't think he does in the nba. Right now these top these players are thinking about. Who can i match up with and go win a championship. So when you look at this and you look at that roster nick you say well. They're missing three point shooting and missing a dog leader. I can provide that and could potentially win. So if i'm fairly. I will make that swap between hardin simmons nick so it will end. I want to also answer wild question because the rockets can't win the championship next year but they also can't miss the playoffs. One thing one of the reasons. I defend james harden is. He's the he's the only guy in the league who's made the playoffs every single year since he went to houston rockets. Were the only team in the entire league to make the playoffs. Every single year harden was in. Houston but i do think the point that you and braden bring up is it is so hard to find the exact impetus for the rockets to do this. Unless jenna james harden makes them and what we have seen over the last decade in the nba is the people that actually run. These teams are the superstar players and now if if harden border demand out would he demand to go to philly specifically. he doesn't quite have the leverage that like. Anthony davis did because he's not as contracts are expiring someone could trade for him and he's not going to retire and so it would be a hard. It would be hard to really forces his way but he certainly could make things uncomfortable in houston which jin it'd be fair to james harden. We have no inclination that he wants to do. We have no information off to do that but if he did it would be possible. We're sorry let me ask you this. We talked so much about you. Know hard one out the sixers. Give up ben simmons. What would you do if you were the sixers. And the rockets asked for say joel embiid in exchange for hardens. Now do you make that trade. Her look i like hard and better as a player than m b but as far as the fit. I mean harden it ben simmons. I just hardened likes to have the ball in his hands if you could you run a pick and roll with simmons roll into the basket and place them on the blah. Yeah i mean you could. But i would be a bit has more hesitant to give up embiid than i would send so i would consider it. I really have to talk with my coaches staff and see if they think those two could work together. Simmons harden. but i'd be i'd much i think it'd be super fascinating and i think we lost for. I think it'd be super fascinating to see a james harden with ben simmons playing the five yes they traded joel embiid and said hey ben go play the center. Go play center and let's see what this team looks like. I think that'd be fascinating. But but wilde's i to be fair. I want to be clear here because people don't have a relationship with daryl. I give you my word. I have not spoken to daryl about this. This is just my opinion. Pure opinion. Uninformed i think darryl far prefers the upside of embiid than the upside of simmons i in a tear simmons go see i say i don't know why and i think we talked about this earlier. In the show of they both want the ball in their hands like okay but if we look at usage rate last year it was luca. Jaanus harden trae young and then westbrook westbrook's also needs the ball in and you can say that experiment didn't work but we saw points when that was really working. So if you can upgrade. Russ for ben and that got. I'm going to say he's faster. I'm going to say he's obviously better on defense and he can he can attack the rim and guess what he doesn't shoot threes like. It's actually addition by subtraction. And be like i'm not gonna shoot threes. Maybe he's gonna learn to shoot threes daryl's gonna sprinkle three dust on him. he's gonna start bombing threes. But i don't think so. The question i have for you. Brandon is this. Daryl loves to make moves. He made like seventy something trades with the rockets like second most in the league. Do you think this organization especially with this sort of leadership. That's kind of spread out a little bit and darryl dinner really take it to take the reins of leashes like our we get docked. We got al and brain. We've got a few people. Do you think these early rumors will start to get into the players head specifically banning embiid or like i. I don't know the boat is kind of rock and a little bit too much one hundred percent when you have a new leader in new regime. Come in then you know things change right you gotta you gotta imagine that this horrible season in how they were ousted in the bubble. Elton brand sat down with his guys. And say look. Here's the plan. If elton brand is a great leader then he had these conversations with those guys in the locker room. But now you bring in maury. Who's above brand so now everybody's probably walking on eggshells like okay. What is this guy going to do. He's no his. Mo is no nick for trading people. He super aggressive. He will overcompensate they try to get the job done. So if i'm at simmons or embiid. I'm thinking well. What is he going to do with me. And obviously from yesterday you facetime and so the release off to a hot start with him. Beaten and maury just quickly jinnah. Here's my prediction game. This season whether it's december twenty second. Or whether it's mlk day in the starting lineup for the philadelphia seventy sixers joel. Embiid ben simmons and tobias harris and by gain twenty of the season. The sixers are the best three point shooting team. They've been in a decade and a top three defensive team. Doc will harp on the defense. I think darryl will find the surrounding pieces and without making major changes jenna. Philly will be far better than they were last year now can win a championship. But but i. I am looking to fill in the blanks a lot for the roster and see how it looks with dot coaching could turn head to tampa house and tonio brown finally cleared to practice with the bucks. What is bruce arians evans store for a be in his first game sunday. Let him tell you next. Thanks back all right so about an hour ago. Nick unveiled his new. Nfl tears entering week nine of the nfl season when back with us. Nick ron our guy. Be west through this week's tears for us. The committee and i were up late into the night. Because we know america these results this morning and i deliver them. Bottom up is where i will. Director is the jets the jets no movement there. The nfc stays the nfc's and then we get some movement and some new names for the tears. Third last mock draft season those fans at this point. They know the season's over it's about what pick going to have except for. Of course the texans have no picks thank you bill. O'brien then you've gotta hanging on barely just like my chicago. Bears twelve in four prediction hanging on barely as the bears. Offense continues to impress. Might new england patriots will win the nfc amc's prediction hanging on. Barely lions and raiders. in niners. were niners of injury. Lines writers just kind of treading water. If you will now to the teams that really matter your playoff threats and above the indianapolis colts got darius leonard. Van had an impressive dominating win over detroit. Team brandon has been high on all year. Keep an eye on them. The dolphins with to tongue vilo four and three not the toughest scheduled down the stretch. Great coach brian flores. Keep your eye on name as they've moved up the cardinals. I know we'll get into later a great win for them. Obviously but here's where the real change has taken place. We moved down both to more in seattle from the biggest contenders. Because in my mind brian. There's one tree contained her and lung. Rephrase it there is a number one contender and that is pittsburgh. The chiefs are clearly still the best team in football and to me. It is just as clear that the pittsburgh is the second best team in football. Those other six teams couldn't move up. They also in theory could move down. But i've been pretty surprised if any of a move down except for maybe tennessee or green bay. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. But brand brian. That's my biggest movement is unlike brandon earlier. I assume you're going to say you have no issue whatsoever. I nailed this perfectly. Brian is that correct. Nick lachey i look forward to wednesdays mornings. Because i'm gonna see this list and i can still tell about this list that you continue to get things all wrong. So i'm not surprised. Championship level kansas city chiefs in the pittsburgh steelers. They are playing both playing championship style. Football pittsburgh i love. Because they're offensively. They found a way. Now you talked about a number one contenders with an s. I had to put seattle up there. And i have to put the bumps up their green bay. I'm still questioning. But i'll leave green bay exactly where they're at now. We're talking about all eligible. I got my eye on the ravens. And i'm a little concerned about lamar. Jackson is ability to throw the ball in that one game doesn't get going for them. I have to question. Does lamar have the weapons on the outside and get things going as far as scoring points at the run game doesn't get going and of course green bay. They are who they are. They're going to have to have a great effort from air. Rogers in a little bit better play a lot. Better play from his defense. They want to still be super bowl eligible. So let me just address. A couple of things brandon before you go the reason i can't put pittsburgh alongside the chiefs is while they have two great wins as far as who. They beat the gps. That's both note. No that's not why it's been. Both of their winds have given me a little pause. The second half against tennessee. Two weeks ago was concerning and as good as the scoreboard was beating baltimore. It was a little concerning that in a game. Pittsburgh was plus four in the turnover. Battle still came down to a throw from lamar into the end zone at the end of the game and they could have lost so pittsburgh to be better than everyone other than today but not as good as kansas city and then brandon. Kick it to you. Because i already know where this is going. I know what you're going to attack me. Because i love you. I left your beloved couple of beloved teams too low. So just go ahead go ahead do your thing look first of all. Let me give you some love okay. I love this. Because it's not the traditional stale dry. Mock rankings. guys. Just say hey. Here's my power rankings. Where we're going to go off of just record. So i love this. I look forward to it as well be everywhere that love these tears but let's start at the bottom the nfc whilst petition this last week. Nick there has to be a winner coming out of this division. Someone has to go to playoff threat so you have to do a better job of putting your foot down and say this team. The people want to hear from you. What team could beat playoff threat. Or who are you going to put up there. You can't continue to say okay. Let's let's continue to pick on jets my jets all right. We'll put them in their own their own little tear. But when you talked about the nfc east of me is the most intriguing visit because it's so bad like everybody should be following these games weekend and week out because we've never seen anything like this case. That's first and foremost okay. And then i'll go to the top. Go ahead go ahead. No no go you finish. Go ahead brandon. Go ahead you go to the top. I want to take all the shots here. Your hatred your hatred for. Tom brady continues the puts you in a bad spot. I had an opportunity to work with you at this the super bowl houston a couple years back and i said oh my goodness this guy is genius. He could talk all sports. He has the skill is he has the art. But then now that. I'm on the show with you every single day. You're losing credibility because this is a great team. Tampa bay is a great team. And you refuse to call them contender. And i believe it's because of tom. Brady and seattle seahawks. They had one big game. And it's not even a bad game. Russell wilson just through a couple of bad balls. They are definitely contenders. Now that they're kicks in that defense. Okay let me just address. The both of those things very quickly the nfc lease with the committee. And i discussed this long into the night and it was some there was some argument. Should philly bumped up. The reason they weren't is that win came against another. Nfc east team. We need someone in that division. String together a couple of non divisional wins but now will matters tampa bay. You say my hatred for. Tom brady clouds. My mind wild. I would argue some folks on this show love affair with tom. Brady cloud their mind because in what universe does playing the new york giants to the final. Snap of the game in engineering standing in. What universe does win in kumble's turning himself into danny picks for a night and you still almost lose if not for very curious. I'll let me put this flag right water king. He sees the cheese lost runners. That was weeks ago. That was tears even existed. And so i can't raise the bucks yet. i just can't do it. Wild permission to address the gentlemen from kansas city can wild connecticut hereby could make a formal declaration that the cardinals of arizona should be moved up to super bowl eligible for a number of reasons old henceforth. Ooh first of all. They're on the same tears as the browns. The colts the dolphins the bills in the rams. They are not only better than all the teams similar here. They're better than the seahawks who they just beat who occupy a tier above them reason number two. They wildly underrated defense. They are allowing twenty point. Nine points a game as we talk about the mighty bucks defense in the mighty steelers defense. Well the bucks give up twenty point six steelers give up twenty point three again the cardinals give up twenty nine so unless you care about eight third of a point. The cardinals should be moving up. Finally and brian earmuffs they may have a game against the lowly. Nfc east winter philadelphia eagles. Which i am calling a four game. They get by. Then they would have cleaner path to the super bowl versus the other option which is playing the packers therefore petition to the committee and nick right as these spokesperson to move the cardinals up to their deserved place as super bowl eligible. Okay so wilde's. I've got i've got to tell you the committee this the hardest pick. Brian was the cardinals. The rea the reason they were not moved up was threefold one loss of chandler jones's massive to. I still have some small question about the consistency level with cuyler and three. They did beat seattle but that was also a game. They were down ten with two and a half minutes like and had they that game and so because of that y by this past week. We can't overreact to a game that they pulled out of the fire so brian. I don't know if you're on the committee side here. Wild side but the cardinals were the toughest omission. But we don't feel there quite yet. Super bowl eligible brian. You know nick. I have to address kevin. I mean you're not going to be talking about my philadelphia eagles without without me saying something. Here's the thing about the philadelphia. The carcass will have to come to philadelphia one of the worst in hardest places when in the nfl to come and play. The eagles have traditionally been a better. Well listen to your battery center. The december type of football team and the underdog factor when they are underdog the philadelphia eagles somehow rise to the occasion. And they're beginning. Some guys healthy back. It's to be a tougher game. Then just say bye week for the cardinals cardinals better. They have been able to demonstrate that they can do it consistently. We haven't seen consistent play from the cardinal upside down. I listen i. i also think that wilde's might be slightly overweight underrating. How tough billy. A because at that point jalen hurts could be really dangerous and he might be the starting quarterback by then if even if they make the playoff or not so i so that is a bit of a wild card to me brandon when it comes to evaluating how would be if they do win the nfc's first of all want to know who this committee is. I feel like you just you run this whole thing by yourself. Jenner allow one. is it. This committee really listens to the people that i want them to hear us a right. We need a playoff threat from the nfc. East moving team up. Please next wednesday at eight. Am the pittsburgh steelers. Great job by them but tampa in seattle. Have the right to rename that title because they should be in there as a contender. You know it we know it. Everybody knows it do the right thing please. Let's talk about how nick could potentially do something or make. Some changes great slate football this week. These are three big games. That'll be my tv knicks tv. Starting tomorrow with thursday night football on fox. So nick what outcomes here would get you to vault any team tier or move anyone down. It's here so. I think that's so i think of the teams. They're the only team that could move up from where they are with. A win is tampa if tampa wins and they look impressive. The committee will think long and hard about elevating them but they have to earn designation. Conversely i think green bay in baltimore can only hurt themselves as far as the tears go this week. It baltimore after losing the kansas city and pittsburgh then loses to the next best team in the afc. After themselves in indy. You have major concerns and if the packers on thursday night football struggling even if they win if they struggle against nick mullins in the niners. You have major concerns about whether or not they should be dropped as well so tampa could move up potentially baltimore. Green bay with losses could move down. Those are games to watch this week. The coach move on particular pink jets. Gm joe douglas called. Sam darnold the jets quarterback for the future in an interview. Yesterday certainly could change if the winless jets get that number one overall. Pick so brian. Who should jets fans want as their quarterback of the future sam darnold or trevor lawrence pick pick. I'm going trevor lawrence. I if i'm just. I'm terry need all now. The players everything. I'm tearing it down. I'm going with a whole new group of guys cover. North should be the future in stride. I try my best to build around ten at just cutting everybody. I'm getting rid of by this. I mean everybody y why you asked this question. I'm about to play into this thing of the jets and the culture trade. The pick you get more than guys and you give sam darnold some help you give him all kinds of minding kodak and help them develop. I hate this. Because adam gates was supposed to be the person he was my wide receiver coach in denver but trade to get more players and kate. Sam darnold Okay gonna i'm gonna. I'm gonna throw a grenade into this conversation. If we're talking about the jets trading the pig. I just just just let this marinate in your mind over the next twenty four hours and it. We're talking about trevor lawrence not wanting to go to the jets. Let's just say baltimore falls on. Its face in the playoffs this year. If the new york jets quietly called baltimore and say hey we'll give you the number to call my goodness lamar jackson. You want you want to have that discussion. You wanna talk about. It does get baltimore. Do they call a meeting. Does does all of a sudden as john. Gold say Okay aren't you say no. I'm just saying you get married to this man. And i need to look into high. Why do you continue to have these crazy debates about quarterbacks. You know we don't have time. You did this on purpose. you know. We're moving to another topic. you wanna. Oh my goodness. Indeed marinate hours do they categories asking guys. Have tony o'brien with his house. Guest tom brady knows. We'll tell you why. I don't really know because of tom brady said is he bringing beavering. Lauren i aaron rodgers and the division leading packers. Take on the san francisco forty niners. It'll start at seven thirty eastern four thirty pacific fox nfl network and streaming on on video. All right back here first. Things first we had to tampa bay. Antonio brown will be suiting up for the first time with the bucks sunday night against the saints. It's a big game. Saints won the season over between these two teams. Now they're in first and second place in the division. Bruce arians talked about the kind of role we should expect from. Antonio brown's take a listen. Yeah it really depends how the game goes For successful with the package that we put him in. We're probably run it more. He'll he'll he'll have his role and it could be ten plays. They could be thirty five. Plays i wouldn't anticipate sixty plays for sure but You know we'll see how it goes. Nick if you're walking down the street and that guy passed you by would you million years. No that was areas in a thousand years without the glasses. I had no idea who that was long. I'll be honest. i'm not gina. i'm not certain. That was bruce arians. I no evidence of the guy tampa said boy. I'm not i'm not. That could have been bruce arians brother who just was in the buildings. I go go do the press conference but assuming bliss areas. I guess we should talk about what bruce arians and assuming he's talking about how big of a role in tonio brown will have on sunday. Brandon lemme ask you what kind of impact do you think. B. will have will be immediate will take some time for him to sort of adopted this this offense in tampa. What do you think he can make an impact right away. Jinnah in. Let's look at where down in new orleans coach and the defensive coordinator now. He has to adjust his game plan. He has the plan for. Is he gonna play ten times a game thirty sixty times you know what type of shape busy in do we roll coverage to. What do we do in the red zone. So that these guys down in new orleans and that was my last stop. I had a cup of tea. Down in new orleans. And i was able to witness how they prepare. Nobody prepares better or harder than them. Coach pay in dennis allies. All about the matchups. They're they're three nights out of the week until midnight. You can walk and coach peyton office. And he's going to be there watching some film from nineteen eighty-eight saying look. I'm studying this coordinator when he was in mac conference. So now you're putting a lot of pressure on and more hours adding more hours to their pret- work so that's where he's gonna make immediate impact and then also on third down. Third down will be critical. You can throw this guy on third and short where you know you're going to get man to man coverage you know you can. He can run a slant you know he can run a nine stop and just to the back shoulder to go ball. So third-down will be critical for them where he can step in right away in a small package and also the red zone and now you got to wide receivers that can dominate one one. It's going to be scared off. Line is playing well and also Tom brady is playing well. he's planning a high level. What his noodle arm. So i wanted to question brand because we because we talked about this a week ago and my concern was. How will this affect mike evans. Whose numbers are also aside from. Touchdowns caught a bunch of short touchdowns. Numbers are office groupies. Godwin was coming off a career year. Numbers are way down. But he's hurt right now haven't finger surgery and your response was along the lines of a great receiver loves having other great receivers and you talked about your career. The show i did something. I recommend the entire audience do taking gander over to brandon marshall's football reference page. Because a it will remind you of what a monster was but be. Here's their thing. I learned after your rookie season brandon. It didn't matter who else was on your team. You were getting the ball. Thrown do averaged three hundred fifty targets a year for a decade. So of course you were upset like you put whoever you want over there. You're still throwing me the ball. But mike evans. That hasn't been the case so far this year. His targets are down and now they're adding another weapon and somewhat argue superfluous weapon. Because scotty miller is being good and because they will get godwin back and because gronk is actually starting to come on so is there. Is that a concern for you at all then. This wasn't exactly like a position of need for them. And there's only so many balls to go around as the male is the dominant number one wide receiver. You know your position when you walk in order you know your position when you walk in that locker room mike evans will be fine. So yeah we want to go back to those times. I had one hundred and four catches eddie. Rural hat ninety one catches tony. Scheffler tied in had sixty catches brandon stoke lena's slot hit forty five catches. We knew every third down. Jay cutler was showing brandon stokely to ball. They will be fine. There's enough for everyone as a good receiver and you alluded to said it last week as a receiver. You're only as good as the other side. Air decker in new york. We had a phenomenal year fitzpatrick because we were able to throw the ball around. If i'm getting double. I need you to win one on one coverage so they can then come back to me. Play one on one so i can get the ball again. So i love this for the tampa bay bucks if this guy nick and you talked about earlier if he can stay on the straight and narrow. There's a lot of flakes around his guy. Can he stay on track. Can he be a good teammate. Why i think the whole league in the whole world wants to see. Stay on the straight and narrow. I think the headlines though are a lot about antonio brown's acquisition in him joining the team in how how high high flying this offense will be now. I don't think it has to do with antonio brown. I think the real stars besides brady is the bucks ofensive lying and we went into this season. Knowing that bruce. Arians treated his quarterbacks like bumper cars he was rosberg. Got banged around andrew luck banged around carson palmer and james just getting risk it. No biscuit in part of the reason if you want some biscuits. I guess you're gonna end up getting hit. Now come to this year tom. Brady's not get hit all uae. It's because the bucks. Ofensive line has been unbelievably healthy inconsistent. Early missed ten snaps. They played five hundred and thirteen of five hundred twenty three snaps the colts in second place. They've only played eighty six percents of their snaps. The rams have only played eighty percent their third brandon. Your beloved steelers and the seahawks are both at less than fifty percent so nick. I know we're going to spend a lot of time. Talking about antonio brown and mike evans and the way tom green could fling this ball around but to me. That's that statistic out liar. If they run into a little bit of bad luck. I think this bucks offense will come back to earth and i don't know what the future holds for tampa bay so that so it is an out liar but it's not historically unprecedented the twenty eight year the rams made the super bowl their offensive line played nearly ninety five percent of the snaps all season long so it lasted all year for them and it was a huge. Under part of the reason they fell off the following year was their offense blind. Got banged up. I do think though the bucks deserve credit because this wasn't some happy accident. They traded up in the draft to get to get tristen worse. They've addressed the offensive line. They knew allimportant. It was especially once they knew they were requiring brady. But i do think jinnah that is what the biggest question remaining tampa is. Are they going to be able to keep up this level of protection brady because when brady's bend wilde's alluded to it but all on it further when he's been sacked even twice for it three times twice there are two and two and his paso ratings thirty points lower than in the nice and so he has been extraordinary pocket. He's been extraordinary clean laundry and they've done a great job of keeping the pocket clean. It is a big question can continue to do that then. Each and every monday brandon is gonna be able to come on here and mock me. I selling the buck short. So we'll see your one hundred percents. Those are affects. What can you say. Something is really quickly. Can you say something nice about tampa tom. Just one thing. Oh can we get one absolutely. Yeah thank god no hold on. I know you think i'm going to be sarcastic. Be totally honest here. He is shown that went in a clean pocket. His skills have not deteriorated. Nearly as much as i or. I think a lot of people anticipated win. Things are clean for him up front. He looks a hell of a lot like he did ten years ago. Which is a remarkable accomplishment. And that is a credit for it. And i'm not. That's not sarcasm at all and i hear he rents out rooms chance so. That's good. We got about this brandon in tonio round. Apparently has been welcomed by tom. Brady with that hausky. The same way more than i did it after college. But we just couldn't afford it. I think a beacon afforded the to them still living together right now. Please give us some insight. Why has tom brady opened up his literally to antonio brown look. This is a good thing. I experienced this when i was traded from chicago. Bears to the jets going in there. A lot of question marks around gino smith. There's a lot of question marks around. Can the jets get it done. I knew gina smith was the answer. I thought we had a good defense. We brought it somehow power players and then offensively. I felt like we had a chance to get it done if he's intentional. That is where you built the chemistry. That's where you built that accountability. So when a guy gets off track you can go to mistake bro. We just spent time eating spaghetti last night. Come on do the right things. And i think that's what's happening. Intangible between these does not eat carbs brain. I take on this.

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