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The Max Kellerman Show Hour 2: Keyshawn Johnson

The Stephen A. Smith Show

33:43 min | 9 months ago

The Max Kellerman Show Hour 2: Keyshawn Johnson

"The Max, Kellerman, show the podcast. Now or two of the show's over quickly what we've already talked about now or one. What what an NFL? Sports weekend particularly yesterday. Although. My Yankees lost to the red sox that's not great but still there was. Important Games in baseball being played I mentioned that because national shows never talk baseball but you know I'm a Yankees Fan it's it's like a sport with local following but nationally, no if you don't care what happens to a team in an getting less affects your team, not like NBA Nfl you follow all the teams. Like that you know that was part of my day. How about the fact that the Lakers? Had A big time playoff game. How about the fact? That just about every NFL team in action Cam, Newton and Russell Wilson capping the day like it was late I had to go to sleep I, was wired I couldn't sleep. It was like House caffeinated what a game it's best football game I've seen in a long time. Not, just that it was dramatic but well played and two quarterbacks in their prime totally elite future hall of famers. That's what I said that about him if cam stays healthy, he's GonNa wind up in the hall of fame he needs to stay healthy. He's an MVP. He's taken the team to a super and when last seen. Under norv Turner's. Offense when he will. Turn it was the OC in Carolina Campbell even better than he was MVP season I thought certainly is a passer. Now, he's healthy again and all these teams Coulda had Cam Newton for peanuts and they passed up on him. Like. As Roy Jones was y'all must've forgot Cam Newton was. Passed up on them Cam Newton. or He looks. Like, know his talent jumped off the screen. And he's and he's got Josh mcdaniels and Bill Belichick. Now it's going to be a problem. Came down to the last play I thought Belgium thrown in a little wrinkle. They're not just you know he said, well, look, we got the best play we thought and that situation we got be yeah I, I think you would've? I figured Belgium would have thrown a little wrinkle in a little deception. You bring out a heavy package everyone knows it's going to happen. You know it's not like they don't have studs on the defense not just. Not. Just. Jamal Adams. Adler Bobby. Wagner. Jeff Schwartz. You can follow him on twitter former lineman played the giants towards the end of his career. Has An excellent breakdown excellent breakdown of the line play and how Bobby Wagner. Came up big and really was the guy who needs to who deserves Kudos on that play but at any rate fantastic game. Terrific finish. Russell Wilson will once again this season be the MVP conversation. He's the only one everyone else all the other names change year in year out sometimes cams name POPs up it did several years ago. Aaron Rodgers last year through half the season. No longer, Brady mahomes will be all the time now, Lamar one. But, the other names three or four names change maybe Josh Allen could be in it this year through two games he looks really good. Maybe drew brees another. The name. That's there every single year what Russell Wilson? It'll be there again, nine touchdowns one interception to Ino. Already got a win against a very good patriots team. It looks like to me. Some. That was sums. Sunday. Tom Brady I told everyone brady would be overrated Monday morning i. told you on this show on Friday facing the least experienced secondary in the league, their best player. With a bad foot. A front seven not expected to get pressured they didn't. Weapons everywhere you look I know God when wasn't playing but everywhere, you look weapons and what happened Brady was pedestrian. The running game he he relied on his defendant is run game as he has over the last several years. That's why belichick wanted to move on. It's not like a not that a guy like that when you a lot of games and even several years ago, won a super bowl like that. It can. It's a saw he's an NFL quarterback but not a lead quarterback and giving his age belichick was like come on. Let's move on Garoppolo who's been injury prone in his career. Hurt yesterday but when last seen in the playoffs was in the Super Bowl with a ten point lead. Yes he Mr Manual Sanders. But boy, it comes down one thrown. IFFY. To hit him. He'd have been celebrated such a great player and he just misses the one throw and he's no good what? He's what is he twenty one in five, twenty, one and six now as a starter in the NFL. One of the greatest winning percentages ever. Bellichik wanted them not just because Garoppolo so great. He's very good but because given Brady's age how much longer going to be able to do it. So. Let's keep score. was. It Brady your ballot check. That's the that's the one of the great sports debates of this young century. Of the twenty first century one of the great sports debates is, was it more belichick or Brady? I say, bellichik. After week one, it was one nothing belichick. You might want to argue Brady tied up. BELLICHIK after all did not call the winning play did not add wrinkle of deception you would think. You know but still the Seattle's a better team than the Patriots and Patriots had a chance to win that basically on the goal line and just got stopped. Defense made a better player than the offense, but it came right down to it and cam looked fantastic. But for all those see Brady and his receivers dropped, a couple of calls would have been a couple extra touchdowns. You know what Brady was job. This year is to not get in the way of like. Other. Team One, hundred, twelve points. As. James Winston did last year. Don't give the other team one, hundred, twelve points off turnovers thirty. Interceptions. And as long as you don't do that they won seven games last year. Seven Games. If Brady just doesn't do that, if even gives up half that number Instead of thirty three, fifteen interceptions, hundred twelve points sixty off turnovers you should win at least nine games and they'll be competitive for a playoff spot. I. Was expecting more from Brady against that secondary and I was disappointed I took him in daily fantasy. I was disappointed. His team won the game. But of course you're going to beat the panthers. Of course, you're going to beat the panthers. He did not look Great Doing Dak Prescott you know his team was tough enough to stick around. Mike McCarthy. What like there's a reason, the packers moved on from him. Mike McCarthy. was supposed to do all I figured out now what I was doing wrong and I was too much of a traditionalist and he had to get with the stats and everything. So, he makes curious decisions. went to try to go for the to go for two. And we don't have to do a postmortem of the whole game. It was not Mike McCarthy's finest hour, but in the end. You could. Rely. More on the collapse of the Falcons. And usually like NFL. All team sports could be a game of runs. One team does good in the first half. The other team comes back. The bottom line is occasionally it does come down to a single play. All Atlanta had to do. To win that game was not let Dallas, recover an onside kick which by the way, a very difficult to recover given the rules today. And keyshawn Johnson. Joins US on the Shell. Pennzoil. Performance. You were on I take today with with trying to make heads or tails out of what the Falcons were thinking. I still don't know what were they thinking when they watched that football and LET DALLAS RECOVER Were they thinking I'm not thinking. All of them no key I understand one dude with a brain freeze six dudes all had the same brain freeze. Know they they. Looked like to me that they were trying to. She was going to go ten yards if it would win ten yours. Then they were gonNA jump on it. They waited too late or They were waiting for to dribble out of bounds. That's what it seems like to me. Now, I can't I can't think for them certainly a terrible mistake on their part given the cowboys and opportunity go right back down to feel methodically score and put the game in their hands. I thought. Cam Newton looked sensational. I was a little surprised bellichik didn't dress something up a little differently on that last play. What is your thought and Russell Wilson is usual being the MVP conversation is every year your thoughts on the Patriots and the seahawks Game entertaining game I do understand what Belichick was looking at the the defense gave him that particular to look earlier in the game. Cam, Newton plunged in touchdown. Gave them that same look again late in the game, only this time to attrition from the defensive line collapsed everything pushed everything in the cameras lap and Cam could get over the top of get around things. Coaches looking at. This question Belichick it just seems to me like that's the usually if it comes down to that kind of play. BELLICHIK is better prepared than the other coach. He has a little wrinkle, the other coaches and expecting, and I'm just not used to seeing on especially if the Patriots have the ball, right, I'm not used to seeing a belichick team stopped in that situation more often than not they come up with it. They didn't come up with you know last night but it was it was I think Seattle is GonNa come out of the NFC their elite team the Patriots so far look like they basically haven't lost to beat. The packers key they now have to divisional wins an Aaron Rodgers is out there making the other quarterbacks in the vision look like they're not in his class last year they won thirteen games. He had a great touchdown interception ratio. He won a playoff game against the seahawks, but he was first year an assistant leflore system. The whole thing more run reliant but rogers looked like he was slipping. Did Not. The right now, he looks like he's out to prove some people wrong. What are your thoughts on? Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay's chances this year. I'm never thought he was slipping a guy who was twenty, six, four, interception, and touchdown ratio. Thirteen and three overall record NFC championship game appearance with meeting you up there playing receiver for so I don't know where anybody saw him slipping that. Well, I mean if it's Mies, he's in PROB has a problem but if it's Yuki, he's in good shape meantime well I mean he has developed a out. Do More. So than I was talking about you, there you go. He that's the news he was looked. That's why you look at the at the receivers available and the fact that they drafted a quarterback in the first round when if you could just put someone on the other side of Davante Adams, you could win a superbowl. They might listen that looks like a super bowl contender to me right now I gotta be honest. Rogers has me thinking they will be in contention. Meantime, Carson Wentz has me thinking he's part of the problem and you know listen Dan Orlovsky who love analyzing football just has a blind spot for Carson Wentz because I saw this last year at the end of the season key. Carson wentz against a terrible NFC east won some games everyone who's happy. But he kept making costly turnovers in the fourth quarter on third down, they were lucky to recover the ball. Game after game I saw. Wow only like mahomes and a few other dudes could make that play followed by two or three. That was a bad decision that was bad execution like what's up with Carson? Wentz now I'm hearing he changes Peterson's plays constantly it's not that he doesn't want to win. He works hard. He's competitive he's trying to be a better leader all those things he's not stupid all those things. But. Just a continuation of what I saw last year so far key killer turnovers that breathe life into the other team now own to behind play like that and two consecutive weeks he's on the record as saying. We know we have weapons now like what is going on with Carson Wentz. What did you say but Everything is comes out to a but. The. Offense align is is in trouble they haven't played that well, of course it went hasn't played there will is he a starting NFL quarterback out some of Didn't he get paid so many when he probably should have gotten paid, which puts the pressure on him as a player yeah. did they get over excited because his rookie year they did something special all of a sudden the second year they did some special in take over to go to the super bowl and everybody gives a large majority of that credit to Carson Wentz. Yeah that that is all correct but. He hasn't fully developed as a quarterback just quite yet. It part of the reasoning is his ability to stay on the field. He got himself in a little bit of hot water here. So people look at that you know with his attitude, Sorta, Kinda like you know what is what what type of leader is the is the real leader is selfish football player and when you're not winning and performing at a high level despite losing people look at that and they frown upon that and so you can't blame the individuals that solves they're saying what they're saying L. Dan allows. He whatever he feels he's entitled to and you can. You know you can knock another man's opinion. You have opinions I have opinions differences between me and you and here is I don't believe us to just say anything to hope that it sticks to the wall. Well look. This is what I'll say Dan has forgotten more football than I'll ever know that's why I'm saying like I understand why Carson Wentz his talent could give you a blind spot to him because he's very, very talented but key when you like he is making the most costly turnovers possible trying to force things that aren't there all that and you can't tell me you're drafting a quarterback in the second round when you could've used that pick you took Jalen hurts with to trade up and get the best receiver in the draft. Right to get this dude, some weapons you draft his. Oh well, they needed depth in the backup quarterback really with a second round pick to Miki. They're looking to see if Carson Wentz is a long-term answer, a quarterback he's in the he's in his fifth season, not a second year player fifth season with one hundred, million dollars plus contract, and he's breathing life into teams that are dead in the water and losing games. I'm not sure he's going to stay the Eagles quarterback I'll tell you the truth. Well. He'll be the eagles quarterback unless he gets hurt this year jalen hurts is not ready to take over quite yet. If the year doesn't go the way that they expected, you expect that they'll be some chatter about Carson Wentz Jalen hurts battles the starting spot next year I. Don't think Carson Wentz is getting benched anytime soon I don't think that's even in the cards. Yeah. They took a quarterback with the second pick in A. quarterback in the second round pick but that's more about. Insurance than it is anything with the idea of pecan potentially be something special and we have him in our back pocket. If need be I'll tell you this. Here's my prediction unless jalen hurts this showing nothing in practice. You're going to see, Jalen hurts this here this year like. You go on like this left Carson Wentz get hurt. You all CJ. Remember I. told you this all right. Now, this is what I hear through the grapevine. Really. On the snitch hotline Rach just admitted this Charlotte Kia. God does not believe in column. Don't believe in Tyler Murray. No good. Is that Trukey? But that's not the the first of all I've never stayed. I don't believe in Colin Murray don't allow. In that mess that he's putting out the your to cloud your mind. What I don't like is I don't like Arizona's offense therefore Kyla merge running the offense I'm not I'm not a believer of the air raid system to win long term in the national football league we hired Cliff Kingsbury to win a super bowl not to put up Godley numbers every week in lose games. No, that's not the case. Yes they've to and they beat up on a banged up San Francisco football team and they call it Washington team that just. Looked like they forgot how to play football after week one. So giving them a credit to, Oh, they've yet to run. Seattle healthy rams team in a healthy forty niners team. We'll see what is when they start getting into the meat of the schedule. Some of these teams that they play. So Rosh, don't put the false narrative out there that I don't like Kyla Murray I. Just don't like the system you know what? Rogers Rogers that kid who likes to start fights between two other people he let's hear what he's saying about you. Is. This true did you give me that information? I wouldn't say bad information but keyshawn go back and forth on that in the past and I like the Makita, he's too short to. It gets his. But that he small for what I like it, a quarterback doesn't mean I like it just for what I've always had what I like in quarterbacks to run systems that I like he couldn't run my system. I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a guy that's six four I'm looking for six three. I'm looking for two hundred, fifteen pounder. That's what I like doesn't mean that doesn't mean he can't play in this in the NFL just means that. I don't think that bill belichick would be playing. Murray a quarterback. I just don't. WanNa. Live custom coaches that will do that regardless to what he looks like running around I we have a couple of minutes left I, want to switch to basketball because. Anthony Davis. Hits. The. Tomato. And talk about you basketball because. You have more self. I listen. I. Have To admit it. Here's a confession I'm a leak actually a Lakers fan but I gave up my next when I moved to. L. A. and then now back in New York but I never stopped being a Lakers fan and that's the team I always wanted to root for as a kid anyway magic and Kareem in on anyway the point is when you make a public prediction like the clippers is going to win it all this year I thought the Lakers win next year. You Start Rooting for the prediction you can't help it. So I see. Yeah you got me read I was rooting for my prediction, but I'm happy it didn't come true I'm happy the Lakers are advancing key. My philosophy is this and you about forty seconds to see whether you agree with this. I think if you're a big whether you're wilt Chamberlain Kareem abdul-jabbar Shaquille O'Neal. You need another dude who's not a big who's just as good as you whether it's Jerry. West or Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson were dwayne Wade or Kobe Bryant. You'RE NOT GONNA WIN WITHOUT THEM IN AD has Lebron and Janas doesn't have that guy. So right now is looking like he you can't stop them Yada sitting home and watching at your thoughts about a d shot. Different different different gain with both of them I personally think ab when he's motivated. You know to to to I think personally ad lease motivated. He's a different. Do Jaanus on the other hand y'all. y'All can't shoot like that man is he's in in the paint guy who needs to develop that long range distance shot beings are coming up with now he can't do it on a consistent basis and you are right. Most people have two and three. Be They just can't be crossover guys is staying guy like Westbrook at heart, and that's that's not gonNa work you need Westbrook is something are our and then something much like Scotty and the Michael you know or shocking to Kobe, which was a big but then. When you look at it. I think every Davis's in the perfect situation two years from now who still be the perfect situation. Lebron's to be playing. You know my favorite part was is that. The Lakers are in the playoff since Kobe's tragic passing and not only are they honoring him by making a push for the finals but ad says Kobe when he shoots the game winner I, mean how good is that first year like first time the playoffs roll around since then and they're honoring Kobe's legacy like that I'm. Like Lakers fans are very happy about this moment. Army Lebron James. The Bra said it Max when when everything happened that he can put the weight on his shoulders they came back. After Kobe's death and we took off I think is you noticed I say week. Think we took off a day or two they're a game or two, and then we came back. And one of the things that Laurent said is that. He's got a you know he could carry if anybody can do it he can put the weight on his shoulders in which he clearly Chan in his showing up even if he's not. As efficient last night as he normally would be. You could just tell that everything else rubs off on the rest of the team. Now. The only question where is Marcellus key he was very active on social media, very active on social media until the clippers lost and I haven't heard much from him since then. You'll have to have him back on. Thank you, keyshawn. Johnson. The Monday. Night football preview is brought to you by progressive insurance. The Saints Win Without. Michael. Thomas. To The you want say the Saints Win Without Michael. Thomas. Tonight. Is that what you're saying? The same thing. Yeah. Capital. 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Vans mercedes-benz van. driver. mercedes-benz van and find out how far extra mile really goes from customization and service to financial assistance Mercedes Benz vans already for anything. Was the big story over the weekend I mean, the one freshest in my mind is cam versus Russell Wilson. Bella. Chick. PEA Carro really and also always belichick. Brady. Because you're seeing how they each doing without each other. Cowboys, beating the Falcons the Falcons collapsing you can even ask which was the bigger story in that game cowboys winning the Falcons collapse. So Much Carson Wentz looking awful again. Lot going on around the League Aaron Rodgers Looking. Great. Again. But certainly. Look Tom Brady going to the was the biggest story the offseason. was there a bigger story that? The big player move at first was. The Andre Hopkins Pillow. Brian Trading Entry Hopkins for a bag of potato chips. And cuyler Murray now having the Andre Hopkins instead of the Shawn Watson Avakum but then Tom Brady going to the bucks. was bigger. It was pretty big to me that Cam Newton also, anyone could assign them for a couple of million bucks and he went to put the Patriots of course of course but. Brady go onto the bucks was huge. Between like they any brought Gronk with them and rock might be the third best tight end on the team with Brayton Oj. Howard member what a big deal OJ Howard was coming out of college. and He's good. Godwin and who didn't play yesterday I, get it and. Mike Evans Brady. If you have a big receiver on the outside, who can who can beat his men were just to physically strong for the Brady's GonNa hit them. That's the best thing he did in the game. Big Deal. Of course, he's supposed to any quarterback do that. They didn't win that game because it Tom Brady they want it because their defense and their running game. They signed Leonard Fournette couple of weeks ago. By the way for net, they couldn't get anything for him in a trade, the JAGS. Picked him up inside them the bucks. But he because he can't catch passes dolphins, you can still get it going on the ground. And that's really how they won the game. Brady is there Tom Brady is there to be a game manager. Who doesn't give the other team? One, hundred, twelve points through interceptions way Jameis Winston did. I was expecting much more against this banged up Panther Secondary. That's the least experienced the much more. Tom Brady after the game. On his performance. Execution was a little bit better I think we still are a long ways from we need to be so. It was A. Think. We have the ability to make plays I think consistency dependability are going to be things that we really need so. got to get back to work and collect taken next week so. GonNa. Give folks on next week's game and try to be better or next week. You don't get to be the greatest of all time without having that kind of attitude and by the way that should also help the culture in Tampa Bay having like Brady has value that way. No doubt about it and he would have been a great quarterback wherever he went. But the fact that he's the goat is because he was with bellichik. That's the reason without bellevue give Belgium drew brees even if they no Brady's even better than brees. Okay. What he would in four instead of six five. Give him Aaron Rodgers will Rogers never would've lasted twenty years with Belichick they would've rubbed each other the wrong way. Okay. So in ten years Rogers one, three or four. Brady's great but he's old he's past prime. And I don't know that he's great. He's not great anymore he's. He's. He's a solid NFL quarterback right now which on a team like the bucks means you may go to the playoffs but his days of being elite have been over for a couple of years. 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And because truck these like a normal sized person but when you're a kid. Growing up, listening to public enemy's a teenager and stuff. Like Chuck, D is larger than life and he stopped me a new me I guess from boxing or some show I was doing at the time I don't know but. Chuck D. If you follow him on twitter baseball historian a really interesting smart guy and Raj. What need to get him as a guest on now that of talking about why don't we have chuck the? He follows he follows me on twitter because of you. and. So you reach out to him, but he's a boxing. Baseball historian he's in all the old school sports really smart guy. And so I once went with Jay Day to a TO A. One of these like lectures nyu. I think maybe going back fifteen years at least and it was like a bunch of these old professors on stage talking about when I first heard beat. Two black steel in the hour of. Actualize. Ripped by. Wholesome Posey Amon there's people that ask asking. The rhythms of black steel and our. And they're breaking it down and everything and an over intellectualize it. Is a great song and everything, but Danny diplomat. And then I'll finish the progressive read. Whereas the one. Dared it's come on come on. The Max Kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance drivers, and save with Progressive Save over seven hundred. And fifty dollars on average seven, hundred fifty dollars on average call or click today and find out if we could save you excuse me as day could save you hundreds on your car insurance. You heard I take Good to hear your voice by. Your. House. Down here matches last. I started out. These. Playoffs. But by the time, he got to the conference finals picking I thought the Lakers went in six they're up to old but I'm not counting the nuggets out of winning a couple of games almost one last night. Plumlee and grant had brain freeze or something and didn't guard a D. D. would hit shot anyway anyway. Heat and Celtics started out thinking. Dixon, seven. Tough call really good teams, and by the way even before this postseason started I thought either one of these teams could go all the way I was on Boston radio doing, promos for this show the new Max Keller and show on ESPN radio. So you know they have you do hits with local stations throughout the country in the Boston guys. I thought the Celtics. They're upside this year was. The playoffs had just started almost started at your celtics could go all the way this year it's possible. They could go all the way this year. But. And by the way, the heat I had a Lotta respect for two I thought, they could also do but I thought the odds were against it neither case anyway, really good matchup even matchup I thought all right. I'll take the Celtics in seven I think the Celtics and seven. Tatum is ascending at just the right time and I thought they'd have Gordon Hayward back and Jaylen Brown and and. Who Am I missing? Kemba Walker four all star caliber players and tatum maybe a guy ascending even beyond just a normal all star and then also Thais I think is an above average starter. And he's their worst starter on by the way. Marcus. SMART. If you WANNA play your best five, Marcus smart is playing instead of Thais. And you have a small lineup and Marcus smart is a money on the line style player and Brad Stevens an excellent coach and all that. I thought Gordon Hayward would be available to them. He wasn't. He makes a difference as you can see. A lot of the criticism that Gordon Hayward there was in the lineup and he had just come back off injury a couple of years ago. And how that was kind of stunting the development of the other forwards I disagreed with and if you talk to people around the Celtics, Brad Stevens felt they needed Hayward's passing in the starting lineup. He does a lot of things well, hayward even Jalen Brown Benham blades great to have another guy who can make plays for us. He does you don't need to call his number. You know he can get his points in the flow of the game and help in a variety of ways now that the Celtics are at full strength. Now. I like the heat and the reason is. They're up to. You know I think if they had hayward if the Celtics had hayward from the beginning. I believe that it would be A. Not Knotted series. But they didn't. I like. I, like the heat in seven. Now I like the Celtics and seven I now like the heat in seven. I have one minute. So I guess it's not really enough time to take call. Is it Raj? I, think you can sneak in one. Quick. Rick in Chattanooga. Max Kellerman show. Rusty Michigan, you're Max Kellerman show. Yes. Smacks. I'm big big trauma Shaw. I. On. Think as agree is. A Robin Costume to Batman Kaos to yeah well, no, it's Batman and Batman I think Lebron knows if he wants to win a chip a got to be the MVP and that's what Lebron plans on. Thanks for listening to the Max Kellerman show. 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"It's the stink truth. Podcast with marc slayer it presented by sweet sweat. Hey welcome into stick. Podcast mark slowed alongside mike evans. Scott the hub produced the show. Wanna thank our presenting sponsors great folks over at sweet sweat for all your exercise needs for all your supplement needs. Check them out at sweet sweat also super book. America's best bet. Mike and i have been absolutely horrible in our picks in the playoffs. I've been worse than him are pixel season been terrible. So you're welcome but super book is the place to go. If you wanna take opposite of what mike and i do that would be beneficial to you. So the great folks over at super bowl. Mike how are you buddy. Know i was thinking. I was thinking about something. You know. major league baseball when they have their world series going on kind of encouraged to hold off on announcing any news after the world series is over at the world series. Have its moment. You gotta love the nfl. We're getting ready for one of the most highly anticipated super bowls of all time brady mahomes and yet we got news all over the place. That's almost of overshadowing the game right now. Well it's it's so weird. Because normally i mean when i retired i went right to work for. Espn i have been every super bowl site. Since two thousand one first super bowl i covered as an analyst was the patriots rams super bowl in new orleans now i played in three of them up to that point and i never really left the hotel. You're sequestered you know is a business trip. All that kind of stuff. We never really left. First thing was. I was shocked being out on the streets of new orleans. During that time i was like damn the super bowl things a big deal like i think i might have been more nervous to play in the damn game had. I actually left the hotel in seeing exactly what goes on during the super bowl. It's the bottle. Debauchery is what's happening. It's kind of a big deal shit. I'm nervous yeah exactly exactly exactly so i. You know it's it's really weird. The reason i bring that up is obviously this pandemic and what's going on right now. The teams having got to the zoo or the the cheese have gotten the super bowl site. Tampa's playing a home game but it it just is really weird and ultimately. I don't know if you saw this the other day but brady had the ultimate flex. The ultimate humble brag when somebody asked him about the differences he goes yeah. This is way different doing this. On zoom as opposed to the i nine times came to blow you. Asshole want great allied. What a great lied so good for him but yeah all but the news. We're talking watson all over the place you know. I mean the super bowl is really taking second fiddle with broken and it starts with that. Matthew stafford jared goff deal and you got to feel kind of I i guess. I don't know. Justified emboldened vindicated vindicated. Yeah because you've you've long been advancing the idea that hey pay no attention to what you've seen in detroit. This guy stafford is an elite talent. Rams certainly seem to think. Yeah is and i think the rams have just said hey superbowl window or bust were in it. From the standpoint of the way we've built our roster From the standpoint of what we have on the defensive side of the ball we have to the premier defensive players all of football and ramsey and in aaron donald and you know on top of that. They've got a bunch of good players as well johnson at safety Know they've got. I mean they have got a floyd leonard. Floyd is out there off the edge. You had a tremendous season so they have the super bowl window built and you know we always talk to joel klatt on our own radio program elite college football analyst for fox and joel always says and we've adopted it. Does the guy passed the confetti test like can you see confetti raining down on him after world championship and with that football team in los angeles. Yeah i definitely can see that. Matthew stafford is one of the toughest competitors one of the toughest individuals and has got arm talent. You know that. I would compare. There's only two or three guys in the league. That compare arm talent wise to matthew stafford in that aaron. Aaron rodgers does Obviously mahomes does but stafford is right there when you're talking pure arm talent ability be accurate from different platforms You know his ability to manipulate the pocket. He is phenomenal. Mike in the he's not the greatest scrambler. The greatest. you know runner of the football. As a matter of fact. He's blow average probably in person. Today's quarterbacks but he has brady esque talent inside the pocket. he's he's one of the best scramblers. I have watched. That never actually leaves the pocket. He's exceptional at that. So yeah you know. And i'm sitting here in denver telling people if the denver broncos can be in on this you should be on this I mean one hundred percent. Just i mean go go after this and people in ali. He's got a losing record. He's not any good. You guys are stupid. You don't know what you're looking at. The guy is a phenomenal player. And you know. I look at in twelve years of playing. Do not many hundred yard running backs. He's had twelve years like how many guys have rushed for one hundred yards during his tenure as the as the quarterback of the of the lions one hundred yards in a game and game. So you're talking about twelve years at sixteen games a year. How many you're leading the witness here. I would assume it's what single digits ten times eleven times eleven times the one time. He's out of top ten defense over the course of his twelve years crew. Twelve year career. They went eleven and five as matthew. Stafford is not the issue and detroit did a solid. They got a lot in return. But i love like let me just move over to the rams for second i love their philosophy. They have a window and they realized their window is open. And we don't have. We don't have a quarterback that will come. The confetti is gonna roll down on what happened there. I don't mean to take you off in a different direction. But what what happened just a couple. Years ago sean. Mcvay was the boy genius. Jared goff was the former number one overall pick. That was the perfect marriage with mcveigh. He got a showered with a huge contract. They go to the super bowl. They look unstoppable. And then new england stops them in their tracks. They score three points and goff was never the same. What happened. Well i think. I think a couple of things happen. I think one they were so dialed in as an offense. They're all line was great. They were and i always. I always. I've talked to you about this. I've talked on this podcast about this delusion of spread they gave you. This spread look three wide receiver set. Did a game. I did a game late late. In the season in that twenty eighteen season or the rams and they their percentage of eleven personnel so three wide receivers one tight. End one back eleven. They weren't at ninety eight percent of the time. The only times that they weren't in eleven personnel was on the goal line. And in kneel down situations that was those were the only place they weren't in eleven so it was it was this illusion of hey in spread you out and you gotta you gotta play. Nickel are spread looks and we're in single backs and then they motion and jet motion. They hold one backside and they get an extra block on the front side and then they just cram it down your throat and todd gurley was just running over people and if you remember during that two thousand eighteen season they ran through the league for about the first eleven games or so and then girly had the had the injury the knee injury and they slowly but surely got chipped away and ultimately they looked jerry golf like he hit a ceiling and even when we run it as well as we run it because their power football team like i said disguises spread. Even we do that and we set up the play action perfectly and we get wide open guys. He just can't make enough of those throws to to get those kind of explosive. Plays that That he was getting in in two thousand eighteen. That just doesn't seem to be getting the same at the same rate. And and i think i think that's ultimately what happened. But here's what here's what i think is fascinating to me because i came up and was drafted by washington and in those days it was. Joe gibbs was bobby beth third and the belief at the time was we will trade an unknown commodity for a known commodity with. Don't care washing his one of the only teams in the history. The rams won't have first round pick for seven years. Washington has done that twice one year. I think one wants to win ten years once it went seven years. They didn't care if we can get big time. Talent that we know is proven in the national. Football league will give away your opportunity in the first round. Pick where it's fifty fifty now. Here's here's the deal about first rounders though where they they become even more. Valuable is because of of cost certainty. You know that you've got that guy. Locked up in the fifth round are in the first round for five years with cost certainty. and so. that's where the the that's to me. The more valuable part of first rounders not. Hey the first round is gonna come in and be great and intern our franchise around now. It's say we've got cost certainty. And i think that comes down to this. I think it comes down to there. Are half a dozen a dozen teams in the national football league. They care about winning. And i mean winning championships like everybody wants to win right. Everybody hopes to win everybody if they get that one winning season and one playoff season. They're good for a couple of years but there's only twelve that are truly committed to winning championships and so for most teams that cost certainty of the draft and the hope springs eternal of young players. And look we got first rounders you know. Bring people to the ballpark. It brings people to the stadiums. this shawn watson. saga is fascinating to watch. We're paying close attention to it here in denver. Because you know the broncos have a need it at quarterback and you got a hungry fan base that would love to see the broncos. Go after shawn watson and trying to sort of piece together. What's real and what's not seems like. You'll talk to one guy who's connected another guy who supposedly connected and you hear different things about. Hey this team is on. Watson's raider this team. He would be interested in playing for this team. He wouldn't be interested in playing for it. Is it's fascinating. It's complex it's muddy. It's murky jew have any sense any idea where this thing is at and where it's going well. The latest teen has jumped into the fray. There's reports that the raiders would be willing to make a deal for for watson they ship car and three first rounders to houston for a chance at watson. Which really has me nervous. Because then i'm like then. I'm like you know you've got that then. You would have herbert. You'd have watson and you'd have mahomes mahomes the unicorn if he's a unicorn then watson's like a pegasus and then and then herbert's like a minute tar and we got buzz. Light year p p. Do watch me dance down. Twenty one p like you got no chance for the next fifteen years. You got no chance of winning this division so that that scares me but i actually like you know you're tinfoil hat conspiracy. I want you to share with the listeners. Your tin foil hat conspiracy. When it comes to the sean because i think i actually think based on what we saw was staffer like the reports. Now that stafford in los angeles is this was already kind of a done deal before everybody opened up and everybody started making their pitch the seven ten twelve teams that were making a pitch. it was really l. a. or bust. Here's my theory. Strap on the tin foil cap everybody. So when it comes to shawn watson. His public trade demand came out right after the texans higher david kelly people in the know said this trade demand. The texans were aware of it weeks ago. Well adam schefter broke the news weeks ago. He was but it never was. He never watson never made it public. Xactly schefter made a poem right. Yeah but and i think adam out of respect to the texans kind of sat on a little bit right because the texans were like. Hey we gotta get a coach hire right right so i think what's happening here. Would the shawn watson is. I think a deal deals already in place. I think the parameters deal have already been agreed upon and it's just a matter of ken. The texans somehow save the relationship with watson. If they can't i believe they gotta deal ari worked out with the dolphins. It makes too much sense. Think about it. He would like to be able to go play in a place. Like miami play for coach brian. Flores a team that went ten and six last year with fitzpatrick and to. Here's what the texans can get in return. They can get the pick back from the dolphins at they lost in the controversial. Tunsil deal that that look bad they get that pick back. Plus they get a very marketable. Hey a lot of potential quarterback in a tongue of iowa and i just. I just don't think that everything is so black and white that everybody's on hold right now. Just waiting i believe. Conversations in had parameters are being set. Trade talks are being had. And it's just a matter now of the texans saying hey we want to try to make it work. We're going to wait and try to make it work. But if it doesn't this is what we're prepared to write. I think it's still the dolphins and with and with that. I mean the dolphins would get the number three pick are the dolphins we give houston the number three pick to tongue of iowa that pick they traded away for laremy tunsil and then whatever else at the. Throw it on the back end. Maybe next year's first round or maybe a second round whatever it is. But i i actually liked the conspiracy theory because the thing we found out was like the rams deal was already a done deal. I had already worked out. And i think there are. I mean i know there are a lot of the kind of were smokers fire there. There's a lot of behind the scenes dealings going on right now. There are a lot of people kicking tires. A lot of people saying. Hey what have we gave you this. What are we gave you that. But i liked the i liked conspiracy theory mike. I do think that there's probably something to that being in the crash. Tell me that the texans nick caserio is just sitting back saying and having no conversations no what are contingencies. What our fall bax in case. We can't work it out with shawn watson. I think what he's doing is they're trying. They're trying to let this cool down a little bit but if you think that they're just sitting back doing nothing with the idea that will wait and see and then we'll go back and approach to sean and if we can't work it out now it's like all right. What do we do now. One of the one of the things you always do in this business. Which i find fascinating is you know. It's the reading of the tea leaves. And you're always listening to press conferences. You listen to the things that go on during the course of a press conference and he try to figure out kind of what's the mindset of that guy what what what is he really saying like you know as is he parsing his words z. Like what he what does he do like nicosia radio in its introductory press conference went from the beginning calling to shawn watson by name to shawn watson toward the end of his visit calling the player. He was like the player this and the player that in a player. We're definitely going to do all we can do to work out. Agreement with the players ran out of the ballot check. Parcels platelets by. Yeah we're we're going to sit down. We're gonna talk to the player and see if we can rectify The relationship here with the player. And i mean it's already like you have to me. You already kinda put it into motion of. He's the bad guy. We just signed him to a deal last year in september or whatever was off whatever it was and now all of a sudden the player wants to leave. And you know and it's it's almost a way to me of easing that pain a little bit to be like. Hey you know we just experienced it here. In denver colorado with nolan auto where the owner and the gm came out and basically. Hey there was nothing we could do the player wanna leave right off the bat and you know we signed him to this deal and then he was absurd. Disgruntled wanted to leave. Well what can we do. Well there's nothing we can do so you know it to me. That's always one of those kind of what's the old term grease. The skids zeno grease the skids before the guy slides out of town. Yeah so it's it's been a fascinating week. Oh by the way. There's a super bowl on sunday. I know and you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna come back the end of the week and we're going to give you our picks where you give you the analysis we're gonna talk about the game and everything involved in this game between tampa bay and kansas city. The old goat versus the young go. What a game. It's gonna be the keys to the game will do it all at the end of the week on friday so for everybody involved in this podcast for mike myself for scott. Thanks so much for listening back with you at the end of the week to break down the super bowl.

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Can Anyone Stop Brady & Mahomes?

The Nat Coombs Show

1:11:37 hr | 4 months ago

Can Anyone Stop Brady & Mahomes?

"Hello and welcome to the show on. Espn in association with fred. Good to have you with us gang here. We are super bowl fifty. Five week the build up starts right here. Of course we disappointed with out that in florida like we were last year. But that's gonna stop us. That's not going to slow us down. One little bit episodes drop in thick and fast all week long brilliant lineup of guests from this side of the pawn from espn galaxy. It is going to get you set for the big show. We're leading off with two all pros. I'm mike common up very shortly but first things first getting us set. It's the brilliant. Jbl areas the hottest walkman in show business trademark in the busiest week. Jay bell did see. Hey man this rock and roll time right. It's amazing that the nfl's made it. This far is an it really is and we should all be happy and am proud that they were able to pull this off and excited e even though we have to do it differently you and i will be in super bowl right now. I five in an all kinds of stuff. you know. it's a great point. You make to toledo off because i think the nfl collectively as a as an organization. It was the individual components there in teams players. But also let's credit what credit commissioning cadet on his team. He gets a lot of criticism. A lotta hate. That's part of the gig right yet. Paid the big bucks you know he kinda gets that right but credit where credit's due. How many hate haters maybe overstating it but skeptics saying. This is a crazy thing to do. It's not gonna work. The season's gonna be derailed. We're gonna super bowl in june and all of these all of these negative voices and it's been really impressive. How they've kept train on the tracks and so important. I think for so many of us media fans have an interest in the game just to have that distraction. Have that focus. It's been such a positive element of really difficult. Twelve months without a doubt obviously biased. Because i love the nfl. I have passion for it but when you talk about leaders and leadership. In times of controversy. They have to figure it out right. We have to lean on them to figure out. Whatever things need to take place of in protocols put in place for things to work. And that's what happened with the nfl. You know as much heat as they get You know when it was time to figure this out on the fly. They did and they did to the best of their ability with a lot of different circumstances hurdles and other things they had to manage. And it's amazing that like like you said getting to this point. It's been so good for us as the viewer. And people just need healthy distractions. So i'm so appreciative. Of that. And i know a lot of listeners. Get in touch either on social media with mentioned his own comments. Whatever and just say they've really really appreciate the the amount of going out there. It's going to see them rolling and we're just one of many many shows are doing the same thing you know. See nepad i another terrific shows as well so we could do a little bit as well. All comes together so good it will come together close to the end game to super bowl fifty five this time. Jj by we were on a beach in miami. Doing this show. The sun was coming up. I mean it's only over there How'd you pull that off man. 'cause that was amazing. That was really either way. That's all a producer and the crew take full credit for that right now. It was really rented high places. That was a great. It was a great week and a great show. And it's going to be very different like most media with covering it so we've got radio row is just a a pay attention to what it normally is right cup of. We're going to say she's out guest. None of the the the razzmatazz and the craziest opening night is going to be virtual. How will this lack of hype affect the players. Think it's such an unconventional super bowl. Week had a positive or negative will does that entirely depend on on individual player. Yeah you feel you feel sorry for some of these players because this is an amazing event super bowl you get to play in the super bowl. You want it all. But i will say this nap because this year's been what it is players just used to this. I mean they've been doing virtual interviews all season. They've been doing their meetings. And things of that virtually like this is what they're used to so because of that the super bowl is no different. This is what they've done. This is how the whole season has gone. I will say this tampa being at home definitely helps because they don't have to change anything right but because kansas city doesn't have to fly until later in the week nothing changes for them either. So a miss the hype of just being around it all probably but you know like i said players are so focused on the game. That's what matters. And i think more importantly when i look at it is it's kind of like the nba. Bobble was right They said a people talked about the play in the bubble and they were like man. It was some good basketball. Because that's what they that's the only thing. They were focused on no distractions. I'm hoping to see that same thing. You know that week of the super bowl being in a different city. There's a lot of distractions you have to manage with those guys. Don't have that this year. They just focus on going out there and executing the game and being at home for the most majority of the part of it. What about the game itself. Because it's a great point. And i think you know we've been lucky enough to to call the plenty and and always try and paint the picture of what it's like it gets bigger and bigger every year and when you talk to players unless it's a brady whose times or or you're gonna mahomes. Who said day one of the nfl likes tenure. Vat in terms of how unfavorable he's but for those guys. I and we time at the dancing. It's a huge huge thing. It's it's quite easy to underestimate. Just how relentless exposure is right and they and they've got all kinds of things to contend with right now. It's the meteoroid ups and the scale of everywhere they go in the super bowl is in their face but they've got family they're going tickets out all of these things as well which which aren't going to effect in this time around but game day itself and you talk to players and they say whatever we've been told and whatever we've got ourselves prepared for mentally when you're suddenly out there and yet you're hearing the anthem and the jets flying over like this is what i've been gearing up to my entire life pretty much. I was a kid. Do you think that side of the super bowl. even though there's going to be like a third of fines in comparison normal still be you know the the anthems the jets the halftime show and that slide on game day. Do you think the the moment that plays a lining up in here in the anthem. That the sense of occasion the scale that this is a super bowl. We'll feel exactly the same. Yeah without a doubt because of their beautiful thing called television they know the world is watching even this year when no fans were in the stadium you saw how guys would go to the sideline cameras and engage in that they knew people were watching and they can feel that of that fuel. Is there and most importantly you know when you get into a game. You issue sideline you know for me. I could kind of feel my sideline and the guys out there with me. And i will say this though the magnitude of the game. They're definitely going to feel it. Guys are going to go out there. The pressure is going to be on. Oc says something. I'll never forget and you gotta listen to a guy that's been there twice. He said all of that's happening all of those emotions but when he get out there and the first snap happens it's gone. You're in the game. It's like hey. I've been here before. And the guy the teams in the players that can do that are the ones that have success. That's why having a guy like tom brady. So essential when you're tampa bay. Obviously kansas city. Was there last year so they have that experience. But you need somebody or several people that can tell you exactly how to get over that mountain. Which is the pressure. Let's look at that. Let's look at that match. Brady mahomes is the big narrative of course right. But i wanna get your take on. Not just the van. But how the respect of defenses are going to stop right because two of the very best brady of course the greatest of all time. The most accessible time mahomes the way he's going he's going to be you know similar trajectory and look back to back rings. The last quarterback to have done that of course was was tom brady. Let's start with him. Ten super bowl appearance looking for his seventh ring. These brady hates is still won't shut up all season long. They be right now. They're saying now they made the superbowl. Let's say well. I mean tampa bay will get anyway. It's the defense getting it done. So it's incredible that despite everything there is still people and i'm referencing all those years in in new england. The system quarterback the application. That eddie or many other quarterbacks could have stepped in and done a similar job. He goes somewhere else. He takes care of business. He's in a super bowl. And i well the defense got him there. Some people just can't be placated but put them right. Jay bell talk about an incredible achievement. This is for tom. brady come on. This is amazing. And i see why tom brady gets a lot of heat. Because it's it's so easy just to say he's great so let me say something else right right. Let me have conflicting statement or point of view. I mean but it is the thing about him that i i was here to coach. Talk about him. In this made sense i think it was jimmy johnson speaking on him and he said something that made a lot of sense. They're like tom. Brady bill belichick. And he said this he said did they draft. Tom brady in the first round. Was he the savior of the organization when they brought him in there no so somebody developed him. Somebody already helped him get better and that's coaching his early years. You hear people talk about how much time bella checks spent with him teaching him about defense teaching him about what to look at what to see those early years and obviously that's what's that's what has made brady brady yes. He has all the intangibles as far as work ethic and things of that nature but the guys football iq a student ruth because he's had great coaching. so is he a system guy. We all are. If we're lucky you know we. We're lucky if we get coaching but what he's done is so amazing because this year he has taken a team and he has made them accountable in a way that they haven't been before. That's the brady effect this the brady effect so yes. He has great players around him. The defense great. He wants super bowls before. The defense was great in new england. They carried him early in the years but the brady effect is what he demands out of you as a player as a teammate. It moves throughout their locker room. It was the same way people talk about. Willie mcginest when the patriots on defense like willie locker room bill. Belichick would would say that. And that's why they were tough so certain players people follow and brady and what he does and how he's done. It is just amazing because what he puts on the practice field every day and then the games every week people. Just get on board the ship. Let's talk about the identity. Then this offense that brady's brought in as you say. The winning culture emphasized that and out of course brought the cavalry with him as well. Right will gronkowski retirement. Antonio brown was a very much a reclamation project even lead for net right who was top five over overall picketed lost his way and it will be in the nfl. He suddenly bowling again. Do you think that's maybe the most significant thing here the density he earth the tampa bay offense has been found. As the season's gone on kansas city. We know what offenses about is in in slipstream in lockstep. It's it's the combination of addie. Read coaching for thirty years. Mahomes and it's just a thing of beauty but it knows it so identity for tampa bay. It was inevitable. It's taking time to find to find. Its identity yeah. This is why. I think tom brady left new england he was. He didn't have this kind of firepower. Around like those now these offensive weapons so this is an and he loves the commitment that tampa bay has done for that. And i think all these players and their skill set it took a while for him to understand what they do because of no preseason and no practice but once that started clicking you can see how they have a great feel for each other all the receivers obviously linter for net. And what he's doing because you know that running game is essential so his style running is essential for what they want. But you get gronk may and gronk coming in there and gronk is the key piece because of his pass blocking right. I mean you know. You gotta protect tom brady and he needs to feel comfortable back there in that pocket and hit man gronk going down protecting. Tom brady period so he knows that he knows. Hey offset you to the side where we might have some problems or issues of pressure coming. You know protect your boy. Look out for me. And that is key to some of his vertical passing games always seeing g- rock in their pass block and he fought for antonio brown because he knew he knew he needed that third explosive receiver. Because you can only double two guys as defense. You can't don't three it's impossible. I mean i'm no mathematician. But that's not gonna work. But can doble to take a garwood in evans away man. You can't stop antonio brown. And he knew that he so he went and he petitioned for that and they made it happen so i just think he's got this new energy because of those weapons around him and he's like if i get these guys the ball things are gonna happen one point. He threw a deep ball. That deep pass to godwin a conference championship that he went up and caught. Tom brady doesn't put the ball in harm's way like that. He did that for a reason because he expects those guys that come down with the ball. That's new brush. That showed a lot to me. About how much trustee has in those receivers which has been the ammo right for for brady all his career right pretty much that he's to have that innate trust and all answer with antonio brennan but secretly doubtful for the game jay by the time. We're recording this still early doors of course during the week or so to go but if he if he if it does turn out that he's gonna miss the game. How big loss would it be. Obviously it's going to impact them but based on what you just said that already significant deficiency for tampa bay going to this it is because of the matchups if both of those receivers the goblin and evans are getting hot and you can double them and you can do some confusing things then it. Obviously that helps kansas city. But when you got all three of those guys out there and say you're trying to pressure. Tom brady which is what you're going to have to do. Try to get some blitz pressure on him and he knows one of those guys is going to be uncovered. That is hard. that's enough to do. That's why he needs three threats. I mean he can use gronk as that but once again. We talked about gronk significance in the past black and gave. You don't wanna to throw him out there as a receiver. In times we needed pretending lists. Yeah having three of those guys are key. Let's talk about how kansas city will will stop this this offense than an the architect. Of course he played under in steve spagnuola and he is the brains behind certainly know significant of those to jot super bowl wins against brady when brady was a patriot and we got to put this in context a little bit because the front seventy had disposal that were amongst the best of of old time suddenly amongst the best of us fifty years in the game right with with stray hand with talk with a formidable cruised. This city personnel is good but it's a level below right and there are a big names in the mix there as well and obviously that is who they'll be looking at two to leverage with with chris jones particular through the middle and frank clock as well. But it's it's not the same level. And i guess depth that he's got his disposal. So how do you see that playing out. Do you think and they've been pretty aggressive. Haven't they the season kansas city as well. So do you think that he's going to throw the house at brady to replicate that game plan. And is he going to be able to with the personnel. That he's got okay so one thing about spags as he can figure out. What is personnel. Isn't he adapts to that so this is a completely different team. You said the right names. Cristianos frank clark and then tyrod matthew is your rates are you. Have you have other guys that are well but that play well but tyrod matthews your chess piece. The one thing i like is that their corners are playing pretty physical. And what i mean by exit disrupting receivers a man coverage when they get up in their face and they got great ball skills down the field. That's the key that's really the step that they needed to make those. Those guys are playing well and what spags is gonna do if he sells out. And what i mean by. That is if you're running on. He's going to sell out to stop the run. He will run bullets. You he will stack the line of scrimmage. You are not going to beat him like that same with the past. If he feels like tom brady's picking them apart he's going to blitz him. He's going to put pressure and that's the key. They're going to do a lot of exotic things with their coverage. Moving around tyrod. Matthew does that but a lot of what's going to happen blitzing in pressure. That's how they had success last time. They're not gonna let tom brady. Sit back there and read their coverage. Tom brady has seen everything. You're not going to confuse it forever. He'll make mistakes. But you're not gonna mentally confuse him but pressure will put him down. And especially when you have chris jones and frank clark you put them on the same side of the field. It's hard to block them. You have to make business decisions. They are really stout in the middle to their big guys. And that's where brady wants to step up. So that's the way they're going to have to blitz from the outside habit clogged up in the middle. So he has nowhere to step up. Do all game. Because that's the brady's a monster that is needed to kind of make tricks one step and buys himself more time but secretly interesting matchup of course given the secondary made that point that obviously an area than most jay belt to to look at the caliber that because they're not household names. You know tara matthew. Notwithstanding right bruins had a great season show various ward and the battle in the slow as well between jerry sneed and goldwyn is going to be going to be fascinating. I was reading specs talking about the giants game. Plan and the importance of the secondary emphasize. The pressure particularly the middle. Brady as you said. It is the focal point of it. But that's got to be underpinned by really disciplined. Second isn't it. Yeah the secondary and the defense of marriage right. This is why. I said about them being physical when you know you're bringing pressure you have. There can't be space right. Because obviously tom brady can get rid of the ball faster than anybody. So you need to be physical with these guys so he has to look away. Throw their i can't. That's how to sacks happen. So that's why this team defense really works. Well together is these. Corners fit the style of play needed. When you're going to bring pressure right in you don't put them in man to man coverage all the time that's a no no and that's where tyrod matthew in the in the safeties especially thornhill their confusion and away they cover key they move around so much i mean they. They exotic before to snap and at the snap there and basic coverages you know cover to cover for whatever. But it's how they get there and how late they get there so watching tyra of trust me. Tom is watching tyron matthew over and over and over again on everything. This guy does and how he moves. Because that's the key. Remember he used to play against. Ed reed all the time and he has talked about how it reads ability to disguise things and i mean he just like this guy's everywhere. This is the same way with different game. They play but they are the key focal piece to kind of figuring out. What this defense is doing is fascinating. What do you make of sneed. And how much is gonna go between him and goldwyn. Well he's had a good year. I mean i think they can because of his ability to play press coverage and get physical. That's kind of key once again. You don't want a man to man coverage day forever. But he has. He has the ball skills. And the physical nature. At the line of scrimmage to win some of those battles that's the key you gotta be physical with these receivers. At the line of scrimmage. Okay let's look at the other side of the ball then and how this ball tamper defense. Stops mahomes because used to work. I thought was really interesting when looking at the kansas city blueprint in the game. Plan you having the right players that fit. What's bags is trying to do right in the second. You're was saying that that stall way. They play the game works. Well what is trying to execute. That's exactly the case here. With with paul bowles right. They've got a really good and effective match up here against the kansas city chiefs. Because there's so much speed and pace but certainly with the linebacking corps that this one is really fascinating jaber when you look at the the chiefs offensive line which is banged up. Right both tackles are out. So there's a lot of emphasis on this tampa bay defence. Let me at the top but you can understand why going into this game because it does feel unlike other good defenses. Maybe great defense if you wanna go that far the mismatch because of the type of personnel avin. The way they played this tampa bay. Defence is geared up very nicely against. We can't sit each offense isn't it. They are s because a four-man pressure. Like whoa we're talking about two different quarterbacks. All right patrick mahomes go make plays on the move. He's done it all year. Both tackles are down now. I mean all these made are extending the play. Tom brady different sits in the pocket. Right you do not want to blitz patrick mahomes. He's effective efficient. And he man joys bills the bills blitz them they had been blitzer come in he made a mis- and made those throws i mean perfect calls and tampa bay can win by not blitzing because of that front four. Those guys are going to win. This game j. p. p. those guys gotta come off the edge and contain him and keep him from that movement out of the pocket. That's the key that is the key to this game. Now you can use one of those fast linebackers to spy and things of that nature but you also want those guys as a robber for the short routes short crossing rats and things of that nature especially with their team speed if they're playing man coverage but the main thing is how you gotta pressure him with a four man rush and play zone behind that and keep changing up zone. Look which is what. Todd bowles did good against air. Roger right exactly. So he's got to go back to that but it's all about those four dudes up from getting that pressure on that just to just to elaborate a bit more it. Does that mean that they get tired. Kills an obvious threat. You've got to remove deep threat right. Typically the deep threat so can the secondary afford to play a lot deeper because what is further in front of them has that pace is that is that overly simplistic or is that a way of looking at this matchup will every team probably in the second half a season. That's had tried to try to win. The game has played with their safeties. Bhakti i mean period. They're like don't the quickest way. I is this game is for around passes so every team bid pretty much plays with their safety. That's why this kansas city offense has found a way to beat you in multiple ways. They access all the field and a lot of times. They used tyreek speed on deep crossers. Remember you can get a guy open if you run from one side to the other on a cross out 'cause he can build up speed and you see that happening with tyreek hill a lot so the safeties are going to start off deep. They're gonna move up. As travis kelsey eats them up in the middle with the short rows and tyreek hill with the crossers. And then that's when the big play happens so that's the chess match but you have to start with your safeties deep. Because they try that last time tampa bay try to plot a man coverage and date is twenty four. He had a rough day. He had a rough day. Try to match. What tyreek hill down the sideline bomb you know was having a pretty good year to that point. So you're i expect to see the safeties trying to take away the deep route whether it's one safety in the middle or two but if they are with what is left to they have the pace and i guess the versatility to be able to to negate kelsey in the middle in particular hob if he comes of course there as well. We're pretty much they mix it up anyway don't they. But if that diebels taken out in the using the ground game and the looking at the routes that is a i guess a recent be strong edge for for tampa bay's instant times of personnel match. Will you talked about them. Linebackers right right and it's about speed leg got speed to close a passing lanes and that's the key you your linebackers. Either to be fast to close at the passing lane or have long arms like darius leonard. Where you know. It's like basketball right. You get near you. just close up the passing lanes. So they're going to have to do that. And that's why it's all about this four man front. If you can just put four guys to put the pressure you can use your other players to get in those zones and hopefully catch. Patrick mahomes making a mistake. That's the key also on this jay bell. The genius of read is the way he mixes and matches different players in his ostensibly. The the the The same same play but makes you have different players within right. He's got those personnel. So you've have talk about this that sometimes he doesn't know if he's gonna half the be concentrating on kelsey e because somebody hills in that and then mccaw comes into mix and it's the same design but he's just rotated the personnel an altogether different. I mean that must be a to try and contend against defensively right because you have these concepts that you understand right. I've studied the concepts but in those concept this players here that players here and they move here and those are my tips and tricks right and he just throws that all off by making those guys put them in different positions. But what. Andy reid does well is he. Builds plays for players. It's not just drawn up saying this is genius play and we're just gonna put this guy in there. It's like this guy can do this. This is what he does well so the play is going to be that in you know and what helps is the way you can use. Travis kelsey travis. Kelsey is a big receiver. Let's be honest. he is a big x receiver. Just big old guy and so you do certain things with him that you can't do it regular tight ends and you can put another receiver in that position in do it. You know you want to run. A deep. A deep crossover kelsey. Yeah you can do that and having sit down and avoid his zone of course and who else can do that. Tyreek hill can't can. Travis kelsey god on the sideline versus one to one coverage. Yes he can. You know those kind of things. Can you run a deep post versus one on one. Yes he can. Best the flexibility. These guys are so similar in their ability to run routes that he can do that. Yeah aderito two weeks of course as well as formidable opponents bearing all that in mind you leaning right now. 'cause it's monday i such a close call. I mean everybody that i've spoken to you. It's pretty split opinion right. It seems to be kind of divided and out of course wouldn't know yet. What's the status of antonio brown. We mentioned him sammy. Watkins is a little bit banged up whether plays we don't know their status as a leading a certain way or another j early on. I'm leaning leaning kansas city and it's because of spagnuola his ability to understand brady and teach his players. What brady sees are really think. That's very important right. If i have a coach can tell me exactly what to look at how to look at what to do. I think that's significant. And then you know we understand patrick. Mahomes doesn't have as tackles it's going to be a lot of they're gonna have to press room but he's been like that all year he's been it's not like he hasn't been making plays on the move all year. There's nothing nothing has changed. And there's just so many weapons on that offense. I think they can score at any moment in a big play in a game like this. That is significant. Who knows how tied it is. What's going on but one play could change it and the team. That can do that faster than anybody in the nfl is the kansas city chiefs. Yeah i was watching back last year's super bowl and just looking at the how difficult is finding throwing picks and he was just. We used that. What famously these on faysal. I pretty much from day. One in the nfl. But that's the keys and he can be having an indifferent off the nude and things. Just don't jailing them. Bam one play changes the whole trajectory one thing. And that's that's hard on defense. That's why they can't get greedy. Oh they're not going. Let's tighten up. Let's do this. let's do that. They're taking a lot of risk and by protecting self against deep the deep ball. Game the pass game those underneath row are going to be open especially if patrick mahomes can move. He's gonna have to move this whole games coming down to who can pressured quarterback correctly. Who's players can execute you can call a blitz and miss you know We saw that would buffalo. But i don't know. I just see i've trust patrick. Mahomes movement and be inability to create in the pocket. More than. I do tom brady at this point. Jay do you think the tough toe injury because it did bother matola against the bills right but there are some rumblings that actually now these. These injuries can be tricky. Ever had anything at it. Yeah right so they can be the kind of linger a bit. And you can. Also they can limit your mobility. But they can they can hang around and danger there that this could limit what would typically want to be able to execute. He looked good in the conference championship. But yeah i mean if there's an injury there and it gets hit a way in a game that could slow you down in the game indefinitely. Could he needs that mobility more than ever this week. So you know. Obviously he needs to protect himself but yeah that could definitely happen so my step on their own way and it hasn't fully healed especially those toes. Man it's tough because we know he's going to have to move to create plays downfield. He's done all your you see some of these routes with these receivers get open and you watch the tape and you really see him. Make a move guy miss. Everybody's covered all travis. Kelsey gets open your rights all patrick mahomes beating dudes extended play as yeah. Yeah man jeb. It's looking ahead beyond the super bowl. Look at the trajectory for these two teams the prognosis right because brady for this the first time in many you. Nobody's talking retiree. He's definitely cats coming back. Next year i was hearing an nfl inside a a occur which one sing o. The family love it in florida. And he's seventy could go on for years at this rate right and kansas city seems to have the makings of dynasty said is really exciting. Exciting prognosis for both sides on that dynasty point. D think because everybody talked about it last year because mahomes and everything around him feel that this is a team that has the making of a contender for the next five. Six eight years that they are going to be there for a prolonged period of time which is exceptional pace. You shouldn't happen. That shouldn't be able to do that. Do you think that any team will ever be able to replicate that. And if so the chiefs potentially that team if anybody can do right now is the chiefs. I don't know about extending over five years. Just because travis kelsey and tyreek hill are so key to that right and those positions if tyreek hill slows down. I mean everything's changed now. That might not happen because shawn watson still fast. I mean just sean jackson jack. It's still fast but fast. He's not healthy a lot. So that lets you know. But yeah those guys being on their roster and having team friendly deals is the key. I think for the next four or five years. They're always have a shot because those three are together. Patrick mahomes hill kelsey. They can win games. Man that is that is their success. That's their engine goals. So they have those guys locked up. Everything else works around that. So i believe they'll have success. I mean patrick. Mahomes mean he's the future you we know how the league is now. You've got a quarterback one of the top guys. You have a chance of every single year. Yeah it's astonishing how quickly he's become a think in the compensation for what it mean playing three or four years and where we're talking about the all time greats and he's still got maybe fifteen plus years to be played incredible stuff jay bell as always a pleasure catch up with the amount. It's the start along all week. I know you're gonna be hammering it and taking of bisbee look set. You look ready for it. I'm ready man. You know the super bowl week you gotta get that energy its as the week progresses you just get. It gets more intense right. 'cause we're all ready for the big day just pumped up and excited for man looking forward tonight. I call wait to talk to you about it. After his liquid back on plays out if that pretty sure. I'll let you have a bit of wiggle room that because he's already doing so. If you wanna flip for mayor let us know. We'll let listers you switch towards tampa bay will give you that. We'll keep you that free to catch up with the back of it. Talk about how. It went down and enjoyment our muffin. Jay bell in the house always on point looking for checking in with him very very soon as we've things swiftly along with doubling down with the first episode of the week i and mike up next i might call some great to see you. Disappointing the out in tampa bay. But this is the next best thing i guess. Isn't it be out there on monday. The way the way seeing works out usually on friday bill the good old days gone that first super bowl. We did on bbc back in two thousand seven With the other. Jake and and rod woodson out there all week and it was bliss it was. It was brilliant. But you know in those days and stuff hadn't yet been converted into entertainment Opportunities so the hall of fame vote and all was in. The hotel are sitting right outside the meeting room. You know toward the giving them a few hours debate you know. And so when raj showed up because he'd been told you know i was standing right there to to agree to cape cod. You know we hug congratulate. She said i just switched. Your monty had got in which i just thought it was the moment one thing he said. Oh you for the first thing that anyone anyone says right. Yeah those days are gone now. You know now it's another television event and you don't get in you you got so anyway. Yeah would stay when you spend when you week out there all you do. Basically is you pick up from other other media. People you know all the rumors that are going around and ready to go to go down radio row and it's just like the you just echo chamber in the world. Isn't it altogether different this year. We're going to talk to get my keys to the game by coaches as well. I wanna get mike's perspective. On bruce arians and andy reid before we get into all that the big story breaking over the last forty hours in the nfl. A blockbuster trade. On mike jared goff heading detroit matt stafford hang heading to the rams annals of draw capital going to the motor city as well a twenty twenty one third round pick first round picks in twenty two and twenty. Three's the rams have got their man but a price might. Yeah at a huge price. But i i think the real key here is that less need. Who's the la general manager. Thinks that he's sunny weaver. He'd wander off where he wants. Wants to be the real life kevin costner. And the this. They won't have a draft. A number one draft pick gets seven straight years now because you remember originally. They traded one to go up. And pick jared goff to get number one and the one year that they had their one number one pick which was after it was the year after they got brandin cooks brandin cooks great because brandin cooks went from one team to another for number one picks three consecutive years which was which was interesting but the next year they then traded down in the draft so they lost their number one pick that year and they got they got henderson. They got taylor rapp in that in that draft and then now of course they've given up to number one So so from the rams point of view mcvay. I think gave up on gough. We've talked before about the way that he was coddling off in the super bowl they lost to england. You know you're doing great guy doing great Which never really sounded sincere. And i'm sure it didn't sound that sincere to jared goff. He's a perfectly serviceable quarterback in the right system. And you have to. You have to accept as well that Brandon stay alii and they brought ray agnew into their front office From the rams you know these guys know goff so they know what they have. Faith i guess in in how he can fit into their system now from the detroit point of view. It's interesting because he goth never struck me as the kind of guy who bite anybody's knees off and dan campbell is said the lions are going to be a team that bites off people's knees and he's hired anthony lynn. He's hired duce. Staley all the indications are that he'll want to be a kind of run first team. That's not bad for. Jared got souks. Yeah i think it will suit him fine if they can if they can make him a play action quarterback and if they're run game to be okay. If kerryon johnson ever stays healthy deondraye swift looked really good last year like on the rams because he said mcveigh obviously given up on on golf and that was pretty fast decline. Really you know given the the the organization and the amount of money that they paid him of course off that super bowl. It's be rapid. The continental eyebrows raised. I guess the time about about that particular deal cleaning staff stafford's going to take this team further forwards. Do you believe that you believe that. Stafford is the missing piece. That's going to take a contending team into a championship contending team. I'm not sure to me. The biggest difference between matt stafford goff and stafford does not panic in the face. Stafford stands up in the face of the rush. You know he's still got one of the best arms in the league. You always has. He's he's how how do you put this. The track record on him is not good in close games member. We talked about this last season when he had that great first half of the season and then got hurt. But you know and jay bell was saying is the mvp of the season. And i was saying you know. Calm down jay. Bill which i find myself saying you know he was on the shortlist for. Mvp he was he was tillerson was number one but even i agree with jay. Bill i find myself saying come down james could no but anyway you know. He's never won a playoff game When we were talking about matt patricia trying to build up leads the lions to see how big a lead they could blow in the fourth quarter. You know people tend to give quarterbacks all the credit for success and blame everything on the players and coaches around them. And i'm not so sure. That matt stafford's been that awful situation for at times during his career. You know i remember. They brought jim. Bob cooter in and for a year was greater than the he changed. Everything stafford's not getting the best. I'm not. I'm not convinced that he's going to be the upgrade bat. They need on the other hand with mcveigh. You've got to. You've got to assume that. Staffers going to be able to process more quickly. And get rid of the ball more quickly which is key to that kind of an offense so it may be the other thing. I'm not convinced that the rams are in that kind of one. I position where stafford is going to push them over the hump. Because i think that they are. They still have cap problems. Yeah stafford brings brings brings a. They have a hit that they take losing goff dead cap hit And the lions twenty two million similar. It just shy of eighteen djilas. What is it that came some still sticking him. Yeah exactly. They've got a bunch of them. I mean they've got two biggest in the league. But you know clearly. When dan campbell six year contract stafford's days were immediately number. Because you can see the lion see themselves in a rebuilding mode a phase and so campbell is going to have more than two seasons. Probably two to prove he could be successful which will give them a time to move on from goth if you need to You know i. I wonder if they'll use it there. On a quarterback i kind of doubt it at this stage And you know. I think they can move on and i suppose that the rams will be happy with either bortles walford as the backup to staffer given stafford has been pretty healthy through most most of his career And is not that old in football terms. So i mean i would keep walford and get rid of you know and and dump bortles. Yeah we'll save. Save a little money there in. I actually think you know who. I think that the lions will sign tyrod taylor all. Lynn loves him right. So yeah exactly mukubi. He'll be the back up in. Yeah yes roy. I guess my mocking that down mike. That sounds like a small did you see. Incidentally the rumors about the only team stafford refused to be dealt to new england matt patricia returning to coincidentally i would not be. I saw that rumor. I don't know if it's true or not. But i wouldn't be surprised at all you know and i suppose it bill belichick really wanted stafford. He could have he could have said you know. Walk keep matt over at that side of patriot place. But i don't. I don't think that's going to work. I don't know what patricia job is so far vice president in charge of stuff. I don't know. I don't know how that how that's going to work out right. We gotta we gotta get down to the big game. Might because there's a lot. I want to ask you about that criticism super bowl this sunday. Remember right let's start with framing the big match ups the keys to the game. What do you think of that decisive. Battles. that will decide bowl. Fifty five mike to me the two keys the game or steve spagnolo balls. I can't think of a super bowl where where the two defensive coordinators are sort of like on the spot and and there's good reason to think that way for spags i go. I think right back to the two thousand seven super bowl when the giants held tom brady and check. And how did they do it. Rushing up the middle closing off the step forward in the pocket to brady. He's got chris jones. Who's perfectly capable of doing. That reminds me a bit of of Justin talk and skinny. Who's the replacement right guard. The weak link in in tampa's offensive line so they they can put a lot a lot of pressure on there And i think spags is going at is going to have to do that. Because the match ups in the secondary are going to be difficult Against that great group of receivers. That that brady's throwing too i. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a lot of three safety Nickel so that one foreign hill gets into the game at the same time as say daniel sorensen now. You can't play a whole lot zone against brady. Because we know that he and his receivers can pick zone apart and he's not really a threat to run so you can afford to play man coverage i think you'll see matchup. Matchup man on on the outside and kansas city can can do that fairly well. I think bruins played really well. Snead's been a great rookie Pick but but if they can get those three safeties in there and they got tyrann matthew. Who's kind of like the wild card and he can take the backs out of the backfield that they decide they wanna keep throwing to four net Who dropped a couple of passes. Yeah in the championship game or or to jones and of course they can double tight end you with with great and gronk so matthew becomes really crucial in there He he's like the key chess piece. I think for for to see that he can match abs absolutely talk a bit more about brady buses and why he's so good because he when he recognizes it and Less so with tampa than with new england new england's roots are all option routes so the receiver has to recognize it as well but he but he knows before he takes a snap. Where that's to go. He recognized that defense correctly. and he. he's he's he's very very good at putting the ball into those spots. You know you remember. I mean tony romo did it when the when the patriots beat the chiefs in overtime in the conference championship game couple years ago. And you know we say this is going over the middle element up. This is going over the middle up. He's coming up. It's going to gronk and it was exactly what tom brady was seeing. You know at the same time so where you have to be careful as brady is has become very good or probably always was but in this offense he drops balls in for deep receivers classic. Bruce arians arians uber steep if you have man coverage on the on the sidelines dropping a ball lane over the shoulder inside or outside depending on where the coverage is so you know so. I think that's the real key is to upset his timing inside not let him read if you if you happen to be playing on not let a be able to get that extra second needs to get the receiver in stride and then on the other side. I think we've talked before about todd. Bowles being so crucial to tampa. And he was for arians when they were in arizona together. Remember all those seasons. Where one after another these immobile strong-armed quarterbacks would go down for arizona starting with carson palmer henson and he'll all these other guys they dragged and they would still finish like eight in a tough division and in in the nfc west and that was because bowls is defense was really good and and he's very good at at the classic thing of trying to take away what it is you do well and i think in this instance. It's going to be a tremendous matchup because both of kansas city starting tackles are out eric fisher tours achilles last week remember i said before the super bowl last year that and then it was expressed better by mike lombardi. Come days later. I'll use lombardi's quote said if i were shanahan. I e the referee before the game started say. Look if you're not gonna call holding on their tackles then give them the super bowl now. We won't even bother to play you know and that's the way it worked out in a very in a very real sense and i think the same thing's going to apply now. Mike remers you know is at left. Tackle and andrew wile leaves at right tackle and they're going to be facing j. p. p. and shack barrett who had a tremendous Conference championship game. You know are very quick I keep saying that you know everybody. says why. didn't aaron rodgers one for the touchdown on third down and you know the reasoning run was he thought the ap was going to catch him from behind before he could get out of bounds and stop the clock and they needed. They needed the clock. Stop so i think. That's the key matchup for bowls. And i think he'll think gandhi's going attack that with backs coming out of the backfield tro behind the rushers And then his counter for that is he's got labonte. David devon white who is younger faster version of labonte david as his two linebackers who get out there. And so that's that to me is is the interesting point do they do. They keep mahomes in the pocket. And mahomes is even more dangerous to play zone against that brady s. Because i mean there was one pass through. I think i talked about it last week. Where he hit kelsey throwing the ball before kelsey had cleared the linebacker right blowing it to the other side of the linebacker because he saw the sought zony saw the open and he he not only put on the right spot but but with the took enough off it so it was still there when kelsey did zoom it. Pass but you need. You almost need to play zone against mahomes because you want to see what he's doing if he breaks the pocket because he's danger is a danger to run and that's going to be. I think todd bowles dilemma. There is kinney afford to can afford you that or kenny. Stay in man coverage Specially again and now. Here's where i'd go up to the referees and say look if you aren't going to call holding against jon murphy holding that forget it given for super bowl because you know in man coverage that's what that's what they do and you know jay bell. You can talk jay bill about this. Because that's the way receivers are taught. I mean sorry. Defenders taught to play is to those small holes where the referees will see it. But but assume that you're not gaining into vantage as they say and my point which i you with him. Any number of shows is that this is basketball the basketball association of the nba of the nfl. But when two guys are going up for a pass it's not two guys going for rebound it's like one guy shooting in the other guy defending in one guy to have his hands available in order to shoot the ball one. I need stab his hands available in order to catch the ball. All the other guy has to do is knock him off the catch you know disrupt disrupt the catch so it's not fighting it's not it's not equal fight because one guy needs his hands and the other the other guy doesn't So i think that's the key for him He also needs to you. You have to do two things against the chiefs have to clog the middle and cover the top. And that's what makes the chiefs so brilliant because hill hardman to an extent Sammy watkins to an extent can can run across the middle and beat you deep. Because they're so fast pace most guys go across the middle and go deep. And you have to add. Another second to the quarterbacks time in the pocket they don't kelsey will kill you over the middle if you keep everybody back to keep hill and the others from beating you deep so what you have to be able to do is kind of do both. And he's got those linebackers to do that. He's also got if his starting safeties are both healthy. you know. I think antoine winfield was a real kind of contender for rookie of the year. In the he's a tremendous safety just didn't happen to be. The best rookie. Safety chin chin is also tremendous carolina and whitehead ought be called. Mike whitehead hunter. I mean he twice when he when he hit. Aaron jones lang. I thought both times he hit a because fumbles. He should have been called for helmet but he wasn't but i mean but he throws himself that guys he had himself up the back. Yeah he's he's tremendous as well so you know between those two safeties. They ought to be able to give enough help to to help. Stop those two things. The other thing i would do is try to bang kelsey and hill on every play. At the line of scrimmage and that's difficult because hills very very good at getting a release. He's he's not just fast. He's quick he. He's got a short area. Quickness would be the word to describe it so he's very very good at getting off the line unimpeded and and in today's nfl. You remember again in that game with new. I watched it again a couple of days ago. That game with new england in the conference championship. There was a big penalty call. Jc jackson for holding. At the line of scrimmage. What jackson was doing against sammy. Watkins remember was chocking him at the at the line within the five yard. Chuck thing but y watkins fell forward. He fell over and and fell and fell forward. So so that he you know he got the holding call and and it didn't matter in the end but that that was the that's the problem now is when you start chucking guy you have to release him after five kelsey so strong that he can carry you along for a lot of batons still run his route so i think that's going to be an interesting thing because if you commit a guy the line of scrimmage and get beat especially with hill you have to have somebody behind him to give him help you know so so now you're committing a safety as well but but you know i would do. That would play a lot of pressman with with zone cover. You know even even something like quarters or cup for one young man coverage with one safety deep and keep the safety on that side. It's a real chess match between the defensive coordinators. I think and then i to me. That's where the game's going to be one especially if tampa is going to win it because when tampa's one games it hasn't been because of tom brady. It's primarily brady. Had a great half last week to end not such a second in the second half. Yeah tampa's defense has played really really. Well yeah the every really has at. It's fascinating hear that break Breaking down might because it is I guess just emphasizes how how good is tampa bay. Defensive unit is just got to be on top of that game all across the field because reading. And that's what i want. Wanna wrap with looking at read. Sorry i thought you were going to do like rap. We could do gotta stay tight otherwise going to be a real long night. I liked that mike. I might be expired. I want to understand a little bit more about the evolution of andy. Reed's offensive philosophy right. Because i mean god this time nausea you and i what you in miami by by the by the. Yeah we did a great show. I thought to myself out on the beach there find joy. The sun was rising and off the back of that. I wrote up a hotel nearby. The espn hotel nearby and found a spot quietly near the bouba and for the times on on mahomes and inevitably then started looking at andy reid and realized this perfect storm in terms of how the to have come together. Obviously a young player read to the end of his coaching career. Something to look back in more detail at the evolution of of andy. Reed's philosophy we'll see donovan. Mcnabb michael vickers well and has continued to build and build and build with mike. I guess they said hans version of the prototype right. it's the kind of next level. Yeah i mean you're you're absolutely right. But mahomes is so much the next level that he kind of makes things easier in that sense city that he is both mobile. Is andy's best. Quarterbacks bid although you know he's gotten good games out of immobile quarterbacks a couple of cases making their careers elsewhere you know other teams paid a lot of money to to sign the because they look when they filled in in one game for andy But the the difference here is. He gets that flexibility with mahomes and he's got two receivers too big time receivers soon whereas he's never really had any for the most part He had Torello you know and they. They went to the super bowl year. Owens had played on a broken ankle and caught a lot of passes but didn't do any damage. He's always he's always been able to to get by as it. Were with a group of average receivers to sean jackson. You might say was by re kill. Yeah yeah had a lot of success with him but hilsum were versatile player than than jackson is although when you think back to jackson that israel p earlier jackson. Yeah there's there's a lot of there's a lot of similarities. We've never had never really had a tight end like kelsey. Not too many quarrel bit younger with a tight end matchup and that could be one of your headline is of the The gronk looks older. The brady when he's out on the field to be honest. And your estimate grown now. Twenty twenty one buses twenty fifteen. How far off. The pace is compared to quite a bit. I mean we saw that two years ago. He had to take a couple of steps to get himself going at top speed. And he still. Does you know i think the injuries have have corral. He's not as big as he was but he's still good blocker they guest. And that's the key and that's the way that's the way tampa's but using primarily and you know he can still take a defensive end man man block really well. Kelsey is a much improved blocker over the past couple of years but not not to that same extent. But i think andy reid. He's you know. I always think the typical andy. Reid offensive player was brian. westbrook But he doesn't have a. Brian westbrook here although edwards solaire probably is an and Hunt was before they before they lend hun on for non reasons and so he's got exactly what he wants which is multiple multiple set of options to attack a defense with and i think if you wanted to put one word. He's a very aggressive offense of coach as he will he will he will. It goes back to his earliest days. I think in a kind of walsh system. You know where he stabbed to play maybe still does have the place scripted. You know to see what the defense is going to do. And he's willing to waste as to find to find out that information but when you watch the way that he attacks defenses. It's so multiple you know i. It's just it's just brilliant to watch and he's got a guy wake mahomes. You can do everything right and you still get beat you. There aren't that many quarterbacks you can say that about right shawn watson is one russell. Wilson is is another you know. When they're at their best you can defend the play perfectly. Your rush can be great. You can you. Can you can think you have him in the you know. You're about to sack him because he can't find the receiver open and he gets away. Rogers is like that to an extent But lamar in his day of course. Yeah well lamar you're almost gonna let him run and try to take away the pat boy. That's a whole nother discussion. How they can get the best out of action. What they what they need to do. And you know why. Why gregg roman hasn't been able to do it in the big situations. We'll save it for the ring and and but i think i think that's that's the real key and i think andy to after some. Some troubles has become a real kind of players. Coach e- he still much more demanding than people think in much harder than p than people think but but i think with age has come a certain amount of wisdom you know. I i think all the talk about eric enemy is a head. Coach is well-deserved. Because i think the enemy has benefited from that you know and probably would be In terms of leadership of fine head coach. And that's what the indications say. And i think leadership to a big extent is more important than x.'s. And o.'s will never called all the place while big deal you know. He knows what it is. And if he's really you know that unsure you can hire somebody good to call the plays who knows what he wants. And that's it. That's that's what detroit is done. We've made fun. I've made fun of dan campbell and a lot of ways but that's obviously the way they've gone they want they want that. Purelator leader upfront. I'm not sure campbell's way of doing that is going to work in detroit simply because it didn't work for me. My last year in college will say about the bruce arians. Very much is a is a player. Coach goes through his career. Everybody loves him. He is a class act. Do you think almost because of that. Persona mike he. He's underestimated little bit. As we ask that you put your finger on it. I think people people look at areas or looked at aaron's and say you know oh big play throw the ball you know that's it and you know they. They ignored. I think todd bowles Going back going back to arizona. They ignore to an extent the job he did that year. He coached in indianapolis when chuck pagano had cancer and was out. He was the interim coach of choice and did a brilliant job with andrew. Lock without killing him at least at the time. Because that's been the thing and that's what we said about brady going there. Oh it's going to be brutal. Because brady brady doesn't run. And he leaves quarterbacks in the pocket. And i mean that was the book on him though. The critics yeah. Yeah exactly exactly well wall spotted and i think that's been part of the reason why the bucks have come alive. Offensively the second half of the year was that adjustment period between brady and arians. You know and we're brady wants. He wants to be able to get rid of the ball quickly to spots where he knows either receivers going to be the zones going to be open going right back to where we started and arians is willing to wait for receivers to get open deep And and that's that would be a recipe for disaster with brady thing you could do you know and and I think they've come to a kind of accommodation where the offense is kind of a mix of that. They're still willing to take those shots downfield and he's got receivers to be able to be able to do that but you also see them. Running a lot of stretching stretching routes Quick release but godwin in particular cross. Animal scotty miller who is in Troy aikman terms. Has you know. Surprising speeds sneaky fast For radio receivers. You scotty miller on you referred to on the show anyone does. I'd like to. Who was that guy. So yes so. You know. I i i think i think you've got to coaches who on the surface both appear easy going but are far from it right there. You see andy occasionally when he's fed up with a cut with a referee in particular. You see you see kind of you know means side of him. And i think with eric. I think with areas you. Just you see how serious it is. By the way he's been able to adjust and and just one last point about areas and all he basically said it himself. I think and i've been saying it since spray since brady went there. You know if not before tampa was not a seven and nine team last year We when we said that when we saw them play it at white hart lane when we did that that game on the radio this is not a seventy nine hundred and this is. This is a ten in six kind of team. Maybe eleven and five. If you take away. Jay mrs turnovers you know which you just can't avoid. They lost three games yet because of arkley on interceptions or fumbles in crucial spots. Where were they were in the game and you know and yeah jayme is through. Tom brady threw for four thousand yards. And you know what. Jay mr for five yards. But but you know it was like it's like the cut of interceptions is worth the extra thousand yard. It's basically and brady threw out forty touchdown passes instead of thirty. You know but but that to me was the difference. He was joining a strong team and they made it stronger in the offseason. Not and this is without without brady but you know just just making moves that made that team stronger guest sides the boss so i wasn't surprised at all You know they'd they made the playoffs pick for for that for wildcard But i'm a little surprised at how strong the playoff run has come. And they. They remind me of those two thousand seven giants. You know a good late season run of for an eleven and five team was playing at their best going into the super bowl. Yeah get down the ride the hallway or berry mike. I know it is early doors. it's monday there's a lot that still needs to get what you leaning one way or the other leading to the bucks to be honest There are there are miserably doors. There are a lot of things i think to me. The difference in this game is how much you believe in patrick. Mahomes it's a quarterback. Stay but i felt the same thing last last week against green bay and they overcame aaron rodgers. Now they had. They had some breaks in doing that but what they did mike our listeners. Of course can catch you on. The b broke cost sunday. Yeah it's just a good old days with el chapo back and oc the j. bill. So you know. I look forward to the fireworks. Brilliant stop carlson. Well look forward to seeing that course. I'm sure everybody out and come back and see a soon. Yeah My my patron column which is patch dot com. Fm my Mike carlson fm. Probably make picking that. I hadn't picked games all season In that although i've done really well picking as you know from our radio show and asked me to do that. I find when i over think i picked raw super bowl record. I'm for for sixteen years. I'm well over not well over. I'm over two-thirds of games right up until the super bowl. And i have a losing record and super bowls because supercomputer get your head. That's right the more. I think the worst. Well look what supercomputers picking and go the opposite. It'd be my maybe flip a coin. Okay that's my call soon. F f. m. t. patriot call calls f. m. t. That's the college going it out. Check it out. Go and get the super bowl pick and plenty more besides look after yourself. Budget could soon. Okay thanks man. Lobby stuff from mike saluting jay bell as well doubling down without first super bowl preview episode and it lived up tonight as the game show. We'll do as well so appreciate their avid. I'll be back soon. You can guarantee that. So will we wednesday. We got nick super bowl. Widow knows all about brady at kusa keen to get his perspective on the big game. Darren bent dropping by as well. That's a wednesday episode episodes dropping through the weekend called central through social media at the nc shirt facebook. Instagram twitter avenue. Ready go and give us a policy wednesday pipe.

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02/09/21 DPS Best OF

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02/09/21 DPS Best OF

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He was also on the sidelines for westwood. One's coverage of super bowl fifty five and tampa antoni joins us now. Tony thanks for joining us Let me start with you being a Great offensive linemen watching what. Kansas city strategy was with their offensive line in why it seemed like there were very little adjustments there during the game against the tampa front four. Yeah i think it's a great. It's a great point and just highlight the fact that okay. How good your quarterback is if you can't block people up front you have no chance. I mean it reminded me watching that game. Back to the eight to know Patriots and they were the most explosive we've ever seen in four guys from the giants ruined the entire game. And because i can block them and i was surprised though at kansas city that they didn't do more stuff horizontally getting the ball out of his hand quickly early in that game all year. We've seen them with a wider range. We've seen them with jets weeks Kind of getting horizontal and we saw very little. That and i think they put a lot of stress in that offense line early that was unneeded and at the end of the day when they got the ave. Just couldn't hold up. So i did you know it's it's tough going in. They had basically three guys play back. Swipe backup left tackle. Who's really backup right. Tackle they're starting right. Guard backup now. He's the backup right. Tackle you bring up your backup guards. Three positions that are weakened. And that's hard to go overcome. And i'm just surprised andy reid. Eric enemy didn't have a better plan to protect those guys. I still think they were loading up for the big play. Tony that they. They didn't take clyde edwards. Helaire was averaging six yards per carry. I thought that they could run the football and the defense that tampa is playing. I mean you know they're safeties. Were so deep. You got to see that in person. They're basically saying you guys want the dinkum dunk go ahead. We're just not gonna let you get behind us here. why wouldn't you just. Why wouldn't you take what they were giving you as we always love to say you know we were saying around the broadcast. I have no idea because if you look at the first matchup in the first quarter when tyrod two hundred yards kabul's aggressive a lot of man coverage come after and they were getting just skewered. I'm no chance kabul's made adjustments coming in. I think he knew they could get pressure with four. So we're gonna rush floor we're going to play to is safeties. Play a lot of by some band underneath To ice ap's and basically saying we will not get beat today deep if you wanna dig dug if you wanna run if you have the discipline to do that so be it but we know we can russia for and we know that you're not going to be the steep and i still do not understand why they run the ball more and i don't understand. Why did they test the perimeter with all their speed. And just get the ball patrick's because what you do that you think could afford todd. Bowles out of what he wanted to do. Force him to drop that extra state. Before the playoff it'd be a more aggressive. Stop the dunk bend. The shot is there over the top but to your point it felt like from the beginning. They said we want the big play. And it just wasn't there and also you have mahomes bad toe any ran for over four hundred yards just scrambling and i thought they defensive philosophy was. Let's go up the middle and let's make him run a little bit here. Let's you know we're gonna test his athleticism his greatness here and it just it you know tyreek hill drops the ball kelsey drops a ball. It's they felt like they started to panicle little bit. Tony well if that's a guy with a turk bad turf toe can get to those. He's making plays. I've never seen throwing each parallel. To the line of scrimmage throwing the ball twenty yards on the field. And by the way i think it williams in the hands there was dropped. I mean there was a number of plays that if they just make them we might have a different outcome or much. Closer game There was no juice either. Dan was the other thing. I was on that chief sidelines. You know early. There was some excitement as soon as started going against them. There was no juice at all. It felt like the air was let out of the balloon and they didn't have the answer for the test. And i thought it was i because i was waiting all the time we said it. I'm waiting for would they say enough's enough. Let's get going. Let's go fast. Let's keep the bottom her hands and go and use our speed. They never did it and give tampa credit because they could walk those four guys up front. I mean and it got it got worse and worse it was like an avalanche coming on top of them and by the time. He got midterm gordon. I don't think that any answers. He's tony boselli. The jaguars radio analyst and former pro bowl offensive linemen. How easy is it to block for brady. I think to me. I think it's easier than i think it's easier to block for brady mahomes because you know where he is at all at all times all times. He's very quick and he's great at working up into the pockets offense tackle. You'd love that because it really takes away. You can take away gambles like if you want to go rush up the field. That's fine. i'm gonna take away the power. I'm gonna take away inside and helps you a lot Each e spectacular. And i think the other thing and mahomes has this as well dan. Any time as an offensive alignment. You have confidence in the guy behind you. It just makes everything easier makes you play better. You just know that something good is going to happen. Both those guys have that that quality and it's again a lot of fun to well brady could step up in the pocket. Tony mahomes could not step up in the pocket all night long he could have. I think at times. And i see this is where if you watch the date and this happens all the time and kurt warner and i talked about Mahomes will just start backing up even okay right movies that step up. Its his habit. He has some of the worst footwork ever seen. But he's so talented he gets away with it. I mean he can throw any platform. There's no one else in the league can do what he does. And a lotta times where you're saying. Hey step up and work the pocket. He's like. I'm a backup. And by myself. Time since i can throw it with a flick of my wrist seventy yards. And so he does. He's very unconventional. I don't think you want to change it. Because he's so dang good but you know there were now to your point. There were also times. He had no chance of drunk. Step up because i thought the untold story that we didn't really focus on how many people are talking about it because jp and bear got all the attention but in dominant su vida were just bullies in the middle. And they really depressed the pocket to your point and you're on chief sidelines. I was watching the game last night. Re watching it. It felt like these penalties really got to them that they were taking that to the sidelines whether it was jones or it was honey. Badger in the they were getting caught up in smaller details instead of a larger picture. Here what was it like it without you know. We're we're at moat carrier so we're like to see it was right by the defense line. Actually right behind chris. Jones necker and there was a lot of chirping back and forth and there was a lot of times people players having to stand between players. Not that it was going to be a fist fight or anything but there was hollering back and forth. You could see the frustration at one point. I think wait a second quarter these looking what we got the entire defense together and spent about five minutes trying to get everyone to calm down everyone to get on the same page and i do think those penalties are there. But if you watch them all your dad there an aggressive group that get their hand receivers and sometimes you know you. Don't get away with it. They get away with it on Suppose how big do you think those. How legit do those penalties were in the first half. I think most of them were the one that i thought was interesting. Was that last drive right before the half is the pass interference on honey badger. I thought brady was throwing that away. I mean i never. I mean it wasn't even in the same zip code. It was so high. There's no one catching that. And so if it's not a catchable ball there's no chance of play being made. I'm not sure why they called pass. It appears that that'd be the one. I was a little bit like With that said that drive. I don't think ever should've got down there. I was surprised. That andy reid. I understood the first time out. He called at the end of the half the second time after they got eight yards it was third to. Why are you calling out there. Because the biggest two yards now said you are at risk of giving up once in the way. The hat was going. I just thought you know what after this run out forced bruce arians time out fortune to do it and and so. I didn't like that decision making process. And i didn't like that one call in a ball not even close to be catchable. Top ten finalist for the fifth consecutive year. What the party will be even better. Tony once it happens. It's any great. I mean i always get to this point. Dan is you look at it. I mean how are you going to say anything bad about the five guys got in there. Mean charles woodson peyton manning gobble johnson flannigan lynch great players. And so. yeah i to be there Absolutely but never take anything away from them. And i always say you know. Maybe it's supposed to be in la. I went there see. you know. maybe you'll be even better. Beat out kind of wearing the call and got this whole thing started so we'll see how it works out. One thing that has taught me about twenty twenty. Dan don't worry about tomorrow because it could change quickly. Just enjoy where you're at and and So hopefully happens in the near future and hopefully next year twenty twenty two year. Thank you thanks for all your access here during the year. We appreciate your time as always anytime presumed me. It's tony boselli. Does the jags radio color analyst and former. Jags offensive linemen. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us. Live every weekday morning nine to noon eastern or six to nine pacific on fox sports radio. Find your local station for the dan. Patrick show at fox sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching. F s are or stream. 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Light string dot com slash. Dan patrick for more information. He's russell wilson junior. The third honored with the walter payton man of the also he and his wife sierra armed the coverage cue which hits the newsstands february twenty third. Good morning russ our. And what's up man. It's always great show. Where's the trophy home. The trophy is on. Its way right here. It's going to be sitting somewhere over here somewhere. It's it's heavy though man like it's like seventy five pounds pads okay. Is that your library. This is my office. Yeah okay what do you have in. Which coolest thing you have in your office. The books here See have you read those books. I haven't met them on though. But the coolest coolest thing habomai. My office man. I guess. Cool awards i had. I had this lombardi award. That i that i won last year. That was pretty cool. We'll get some other things. I'm not gonna say too much. I don't want some of my friends. You should do a book. Club like andrew luck. No book clubs from you. What did you think of the super bowl man. I thought first of all the fact that we were able to get this far with everything going on with kobe else and took us to be there is just sitting there watching the game and it was pretty fascinating to just see all year we fan so it was fascinating to see. Actually people they are experience of it. All felt real But in terms of the game you know. I think that tom got up early. You know and They threw threw few touchdowns early on. And and you know the the reality is. They couldn't block those guys on the other end. They struggle with patch run for his life. Old game felt like but i didn't understand why kansas city did make adjustments with that offensive line right at half time. Don't you make adjustments to something like that. Yeah i think they need to just a little bit quicker in the game and the next thing you know the you know the bucks were already up. You know pretty good you know in the first half you know so. I think they were trying to catch up you. They're always trying to play catch up mode in that game and You know even guys like tyree grin on the field and kelsey. But i felt like they moved the ball in certain moments within. They kinda got frozen stuck in the middle of the field. So that's what they had problems. But also and patrick mahomes has mentioned this he. He's trying for the big play and not taking what the defense gives you like. Do you understand that and you probably went through this this year. Where you guys were getting the big play. But you weren't getting other things. The i think the biggest thing that you have to be able to do is that slow. Those guys down front for patrick go read. It's look like as soon as he counts hitting his back foot sometimes and other times trying to shots on the field. You know but i think that They didn't adjust great but also to just it didn't seem they can handle the guys up front. Does brady do anything that you can't do. Is he doing anything that can't do you. I can't do you know i think he does. He does everything extremely well. He's got great player. I was looking at the. I was looking at the pre game warm ups right. I'm looking at watching the pre-game warriors. And i'm seeing gronkowski seeing godwin evans antonio brown you know they got four net. They got all these players around him. I mean watching. Antonio brown hinge. Stop route that he ran. Twenty five yard boom stopped on a dime. You'd have gronkowski There's i thought left which called a great game and got going caskey open early in the game and cottam open. That was really cool down the red zone some stuff. They were doing You know and. I think that they made their plays you know when they really need to Game does mahomes do anything. You can't do now. Man i think he he can launch it long ways on out there. You know he's a he's a really special player. Though man. I love watching him. I love watching is competitive. Dry you know the game was kind of out of hand there that you he just kept going for it which i loved watching him. Go for it. You know even though it didn't turn out the way he wanted it to. He's a he's gonna heck of a player for a long time. How much input should the quarterback have in organizational moves veteran quarterback. I think it depends on who it is. How about you. How much do you have any say. In what seattle does offensively with three agents or draft. Traffic's a. I think that it's you know i think that ultimately for me personally. I think that. I want to be involved because of the day. It's your legacy. It's your teamed legacy. It's the guys you get to go into the huddle with and ended the day that those guys trust you know anything about you. Know one reason why. Tom went to tampa was because he felt like he could trust those guys in brusett opportunity. I think i think for every situation you have to be able to go into a situation. You know anything about guys like lebron. He was able to be around. Great players can trust. I think for for me. You know anytime you bring free agents in our the players you want the best players guys. Love the game guys. You wanna be a part of the and as a player you kind of know that to be pro bowls. he'd see these guys to be in the huddle with the or order or receivers. You know Get to be around defense guys and so you got to kind of build that over time and get to see who can really play as a player. You really know so. I think that That relationships really key in that dialogue between you know on you know especially being a veteran player that dialogue is really important. Yeah but that's a long winded way of not answering my question. Are you involved in personnel decisions. Have you been involved in personnel decisions. Not not as much i. Don't you know. I think that You know if you want to be involved us. I think it helps. It helps to be involved more. But i think that's that dialogue should should happen more often in yet but look i'm worried about the these numbers. You've been sacked three hundred ninety four times in your career. So you're you're to be the most sacked quarterback in the history the game why i think that You know sometimes sometimes you hold onto a little bit just because you're looking for that plaguing you find you find those guys but also so many so many times. It's turned into touchdowns to but you know to be Know you never wanna be sacked many times. You know four hundred times basically is way too many for four hundred too many You know so. I think that's a big the big thing that we gotta fix. That's gotta be fixed and has to be you know the day 'cause in my goal is to play you know ten to fifteen years and so we think about that in longevity and legacy and all that and watch the game the other night you know the difference between that game. Was you know Tom was taking shots down the field and getting the ball to guys and stuff like that but you know. He wasn't touched really touch. Think one time in the game. You know You know early on but throughout doesn't even count russ how many times you were hit. I mean that's three hundred ninety four sacks like that's a that's a lot and i think you also get away quite a bit to get away some you do. That's a lot. I think we gotta get better frightening. And it's not just passing. I think in terms of everything you do. It controls the game as you watch the other night. I think you know and You know obviously guys like dwayne such amazing players and to have him come in was a big thing that that i really wanted to make sure that happened. I think that we all wanted to make sure that happened. Because we knew that what a great player duane was for example. So you know. And i i think throughout the next ten years. It's really important for me personally but also just you know you know throughout my career that you know we make sure that we do everything we can including myself do everything. We can to make sure that that that doesn't happen. We're talking to russell. Wilson what do you make of a cbs lockenfora saying that seattle had gotten calls for possible. Trade talks with you. Do you believe that that does seattle has gotten calls. The i definitely believe they're guy calls for sure. I didn't think anything anytime you're You know you know a player that tries to produce every week and has done it for consistently. I think people are gonna call for sure. And i think it's part of the process your franchise quarterback you're a hall of fame quarterback you're not available or you. Well i'm not sure if i'm available or not. That's a good question black. But also i think more anything else is You know i think the end of the day you you wanna win. Play this game every day to wake up to win. You'd play this game. You know to be the best in the world. you know what i hate. I hate sitting there. Watching other guy played again. Nothing worse either way. You look at the super bowl. Why should get up to watch this game like that looking so i think that I think ultimately you watch the game you know you wanna do everything you can't be there. That's why we play this game. So i think that part of it's really. I think that the reality of of professional sports you know things happen. Things change i you know. I'm not sure how. How long will play in seattle. I think hopefully hopefully it was going to be forever. You know but things change. Obviously the away and i think that You focus on what you can control every day and try to be the best version yourself and in also may try to win championships. And that's that's why. Play this game which the cover on g. q. To look like with you and your wife just came on this. I think just just coming out here to this morning. And it's coming out soon here but i think i think i think i think you i think you'll like it and i know you had that good relationship and then you guys are really close. I know we're not that close that much anymore. Once you got married so. I had to be respectful of so. Yeah yeah. I backed away. And i was respectful. I got you. Where is she right now. I think she's with the kids right now. She's it's early. It's early on the west coast so it's only it's seven thirty. I mean she looks great. Can she do a drive by. Can you just say hey. Can you say today. She's on the other side of the house she's a with. We'll win right now. why wait how. How big is the house. It's not like a two bedroom apartment that you're in right now. What are you doing in the off season and just getting ready. I think every every day you try to get ready to get prepared Pretty cool business to called limbless mindsets. That's growing like crazy i. You've talked to trevor trevor. Before you know businessman brother harry. Dj that businesses growing. We're working with some of the best companies in the world. We have House of l. Orange see from a business standpoint to. That's really growing with christine day. She was a former ceo lululemon and meets yarn in in christine or in the rest of the team. Were in that business. And so it's good because i don't have to focus on that every day. I have a great team of people like christine. But what does that. What what is it so we have good man brand clothing line with been massive. And it's been growing like crazy and the goodman brandon. It's we get three percent back to you. Foundation give all those proceeds the friends of the children's amazing program. It's a great clothing lines. A great shoes. Everything could come on a forty yard dash in these pants. I'm telling you and then and then we also have human nation that's underneath the house of l. Aren't seat so imagine you run the forty yard dash. Well i'm a. I'm a guy that i can run faster than you dan. That's for sure. I know that. But i hope so. But what do you run the forty now. i'm probability i'm probably a little four five. Got right now. I'm more quick and fast though my the of being a get in and out of things i think. What's what's what's key especially playing my position because you're in small movements right so you're you're getting in and out of the pocket your slide to the rights line to left spinning out so i think all over the concentrate on but you know right now in this time of year. It's really trying to get ready for the season and you know trying to you. Know get repaired in trying to be the best version yourself. How are the kids. Net futures growing up fast. You know he's getting ready for all these sports and stuff like that trying to be safe as possible. And he's getting tall and fast and athletic. And you have cnn. Who's know she. She knows everything she's she's gonna run for president one day. You have a win. who's you know. Six months sued getting ready to. I feel like he's like he's gonna run before he ever walked so He's ready to roll so Kids are great is the best part of after the season. You really get to spend time with your kids and balance all that out quarterback eight three and out. Are you three now. That that shit three kids. I'm pushing for more. She she she wants to have more to but we'll see what happens. Go for it on. Fourth down is what do you don't tell her. I said Congrats on the walter. Payton man of the year award and it's a great honor and if it hits you what it meant to you. Can you describe it. Yeah man you know my whole life. You know My dad talk about walter. Payton won manny was a legacy that he lived and everything else. I think you might my dad not being here anymore. I think the reality is is that you know i to be able to serve and give back the greatest gifts you know in the world you know and i think whenever i got in seattle in two thousand twelve i wanted to serve and give back the community and everything else. So that's been something that i've been super passionate about. Met almost a thousand. Some kids sale children's hospital. We've been able to do so many cool things with you. Know you know. Pediatric cancer with arwa foundation. Why don't you foundation doing so many things with a united program this offseason in everything else that we've been able to do along the way especially with cova that's happened and i'm a voter campaign and just it's been a journey. It's been a journey especially in twenty twenty with all the people that we've lost. You know all the people that you care about all the people that we've gotta know experience different things. Also things going on racially in america. There's important for me to get involved in to even department with wheels up to do meals up with kenny dictator it. It was a blessing to be able to give back in just on really trying to make a difference as much as we could. And so i think that i told i told c. The cool part is is just the beginning. It's just the beginning of of of really being able to make a difference and i hopefully. Hopefully we can continue to do that along the way. I think your dad went to the monitor. Your dad went to dartmouth mclovin went to darwin. Yeah i don't know what that means. I mean your dad was an athlete. Mclovin wasn't did dartmouth recruit you. They did actually Buddy stevens actually buddy teams. I i went up to dartmouth what they're how house probably tenth grade or something like that and in my my cousin was actually playing basketball. She was playing basketball university of penn. So i went up there. Everything else and buddy teams you know. My dad and teams were really close. Actually they had a really good relationship play football and baseball there and everything and so i went there beautiful cameras so much snow. Probably twelve feet of snow up. I'm not coming back but anyway you know my dad. He he loved dartmouth big green. You know and so that was always fun to be up there. Michael ben and everything else. We had a good time. Hey good good to talk to you off season and we'll stay in touch and tell your wife i said law boss kazeem glove. Well you could have started for dartmouth thermic. I'm jay fiedler. Who made the nfl. Yeah so have been interesting. I don't grasp the cotton. I don't know i don't know. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us. Every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. Upward is the world's largest remote talent platform devs designers writers strategists. 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What were you saying about the chiefs on friday going into the super bowl. I if you actually need your memory refresh dan. I saw the beginning of yesterday's show. You seem to remember vividly. Just today go. I i i- shocking. Take that the chiefs would win. I the shocking. Jake that the best offense in the league over the last three years would continue to function and i was wrong and you know light. I understand that this is the first time in your. What is it at this point. Sixty five year broadcasting career that you've ever had someone have an incorrect prediction. So i'm surprised a little bit at the level you're reveling in it but yeah i was wrong. I was wrong. dan wait. That sounded snarky. Nick i i. Are you being snarky nano. No i wouldn't be snarky. I would. I would never be snarky when you know a broadcast hall of famer. Leads his show the day after the super bowl. Potentially the most listened to view day of your entire year within eighteen seconds at calling me what i was called as a third grader. I understand this show. Does traffic in pedantic childhood humor were just a few steps above flatulence jokes on this television radio program. But i thought nick wrong. You know you could've james nick. Do there's a name that rhymes with you coulda gone for the whole boat there. If you wanna do james my name mess with my name. The lead show the day after the subaru. That's like that's the died broadcasting. You do wait where you called dick wrong in in grade school i. I hope you get fined for that. I hope you. I okay right now for all and all the guys are nervous. Because you're doing things. You shouldn't do wait should i could. I get in trouble for saying the dick allen was a great player or dick ebersol is one of the great tv executives. How call you richard wrong. Come on i do that. Because you're a good sport. That's why you're a good sport. Wendy sport that tom brady taunting people and then writing apology notes. Afterward you know is not a good sport that antoine winfield junior and senior would never do what he did he. He's oh tyreek did it to me tyreek when he was running into the end zone in week. Twelve was wishing. Peace be upon you as you're taught in you know at school growing up. It was a very different scenario than what a antoine winfield junior did. When did you know that you are in trouble here. Chiefs were in trouble. Well around the time fritzy text me. Make sure i would come on this week. Even though the game was an over. That wasn't a good sign. Wait you during the game during the game. He was like if this result time. He said tim ataka told you do that. Couldn't control there was like twenty one. Whatever it of up nick. I did tell fritzy. Wait and you. Why did you do not have time just to make sure that holds up. We'll see a monday. I'm sorry i apologize for that. I'm going to say it. I'm not going to text you. I apologize okay. Well i appreciate that that was during halftime. I hear the weekend had a good performance. I confirm it because i was pacing around my neighborhood. Chain-smoking black and milds. Trying to figure out what i was. Angry about was i- angriest about the the new definition of pass interference that apply to these playoffs. Which is tom brady. Incompletions was i- angriest about andy reid who i adore just deciding to just continue to taunt tom. Brady with the timeouts. what are you doing. Call these time outs. Or was angry about the fact that what might have been the single greatest past. I've ever seen patrick. Mahomes throw on a third eleven with a man in his face. The man behind him bounced off. Tyreek face mask and i. I didn't know what i was angry about then. I decided no angriest todd freaks. That's warming hold on todd. Want he's conveniently. They got the his response to that text where he goes on to say. I'm going to frame this text and hanging up on the wall or something along those lines after the chiefs come back and win because i was too premature to call it a game. Okay all right. I respect the confidence it. Was you know misplaced naive. But you know you know what you learn something new every day and it's good to know because i learned yesterday that this show is the place for juvenile humor then. I learned today that todd. Fritz is a man that's going to share private texts that was not for publication. That was not that. I thought that was between todd and i you think everyone has my cell phone number todd. I invited surf. And now i'm going to have to change it or just. What happens. Len did you start thinking about me on sunday. While i was thinking about a lot. On sunday dan i. I was thinking about the fact that you know. I've always heard that kids that have to pay their way through college. Odds are more successful like they. They and i'm like well. That'll be good for my kids. Because now i can't pay for it so i thought about that. I was thinking about the fact that do you realize the perfect storm of events that had to happen for this. Like it's one thing for a guy for many years to say. I think tom brady is finished. And my saving grace on that. Is you know who agreed with me. Bill belichick waved goodbye. Bilbao checks like what that nick right. He makes them takes. I like those statistics graphs pointing down by tom. Brady and it's another thing for me to be like. Hey this guy mahomes. He's the most talented player i've ever seen in my life and that you're gonna win three in a row but the fact that during the life of those takes it was never a possibility that brady could beat mahomes super bowl say played in the same conference but then he had to leave the jeeves had to make another super bowl brady and somehow get there and then it had so i was thinking like this is like the this is the randy. Johnson's fastball killed. The dove of like perfect storm of sock. These takes all they lie. And i'm the dove and tom. Brady's i'm so mad so mad and you're so happy no guy like how you try to do an end run and you said to fritzy. Hey the dan pick the chiefs and then fritzy had to tell you. I pick the buccaneers july. What a rat. You could send you nothing now. Trust your ira chiefs. Yeah so. I've had to pivot to nick. I had the under in the in. The buccaneers. you do you. Have you guys have a fancy social media team. You know if you if you really want to stick it to me. What you could have put up was my tweet with the eleven May before the game and you miss them all didn't you. I went over live. That's that's hard to do not only let a someone a season gambler when you make eleven bets. If you're a responsible gambler you think worst case scenario. You're like all right. What if i go three eight. If i'm minus five units plus the big stomach it. You're like okay again. Bet in the right amount. You don't budget over eleven. It's not even a concern one tool for nine. Your only minus seven units like herds over eleven dan. You don't consider i that. Over thirty eight. And a half yards for the chiefs shortest punt. So over thirty eight and a half yards for the shortest pump. The logic being they're not gonna put inside the forty. It was sharp. Bet i was like. I am on the right side of this. That long haired hippie rehab shake that sucker one side and then shake it off the other twenty eight. You're ons sorry called hippie abs and by the way get nick right. Azkit nick right. That's your twitter. We just found out that at get dick wrong. It's available so that do you want us to grab paulie. Would you grab grab a wrong. No at get dick. Yes okay you guys are really enjoying this. You're coming off great. We might not but you're coming off. Great okay. I'm financially and salt. I my out in bought a beautiful red blazer velvet blazer estimate. How much was that laser seventy dollars hour. We're gonna pay all my all your pets. Oh your pets. All the punter bech you were going to pay for your blazer you know what maybe where when the buccaneers have their parade their victory parade. It's it is thing you want to know. I'm going to share this with you. And then it'll be it'll be a final thing to share with you and then we'll help you want to text it to fritzy and then he'll share with me. No okay the store. I went into had that red velvet blazer in a slightly different hue of red. That i thought was too close to the bucks color that instead i had i saw. They had a different piece of clothing in the chiefs. Red and i was like can you. Custom made me that blazer that fabric. He's like it's going to be like double the price. I'm like no problem i've got it. Let's do it stupid blazer. Hangs in my closet now. Taunts me never worn do the chiefs rebound from this. I might not. They more likely to get back to the super bowl next year chiefs bucks. I think it's pretty. Here's the thing in all seriousness. I think pretty clearly the chiefs in this regard. There's no one in the. Afc shown they can beat mahomes. He's never lost. Josh allens never lost lamari has never lost baker. The only young quarterback never beaten is to sean. And shawn's leaving you like. I assume leaving the conference and so i just the i think herber is gonna be really good. But that's i don't think they're ready yet. I didn't the. Nfc is still suffer now. Brady's gotten easier division now all of a sudden just greece's assuming i breezes done and i don't even that divisions that good but the rams should be good we know the see also we go. The packers will be good. So i think it's a tougher road and i think the chiefs i. I'm gonna go ahead and say this. I think the chiefs are butts. I understand i am no evidence to prove it. But i think the chiefs over the course of the season or the better team in so i choose from. We're likely to be back. You're a good sport and Thanks for joining us. And we'll talk to you next football season dan. You're okay. Ali mclovin guys are fine fritz. You're going to hear vermont. i have to trust here. Thank you nick. Nick foxworth one. Be sure to catch the live edition of the dan. Patrick show weekdays at nine. Am eastern six am pacific on fox sports radio and the i heart radio app these days the hustles nonstop when you need to unwind reach for cores light. It's the only beer that's literally made to chill. Coors light is cold loggerhead cold filtered in cold packaged. You know it's time to chill when the mountains on the cans and bottles turn blue. Don't feel like running to the store. Get coors light delivered straight to your door with drizzly or instacart. So kickback with coors light. It's mountain called refreshment made to chill cores. 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Week's Best (Zion Williamson, Christian McCaffrey, Brady + Mahomes, Clayton Kershaw, Kyler Murray)

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Week's Best (Zion Williamson, Christian McCaffrey, Brady + Mahomes, Clayton Kershaw, Kyler Murray)

"Welcome to the weekend edition of the undisputed podcast on your host Johnny Taft today's podcast teachers all the best segments from this week sleet of undisputed with end up interviews and discussions we have a lot to talk about heading into next week skip Shannon let's generation passer of the basketball and even Zion played point guard in high school and then grew come on it's so wrong the athletic leaper but they force you in the NBA to have actual measurements. Did you see what his was sixty six six Ron James is on equal footing if rookies to me this is so totally unfair that it's it's sickening because it's so wrong in Ame Zion look good racking up sixteen point seven rebounds and three assists in Twenty eight minutes against the Hawks so Shannon is the Zion Lebron comparison fair take the bait saying that the comparison was unfair gentry said Lebron is one of a kind no-one can have an immediate impact like he did when entering the league in the social media Adriatic it's going to be run away highlight dunks okay he's going to have those and I think he's going to have them every night yes he will because he is an exceptionally rarely become maybe a runaway media theme but I don't believe any player or coach in this league is sitting back saying man I wonder if Zion's it's so it's such a ceiling so to speak on what Zion can do early on because now we're in different media offense he's not going to be controlled that'd be Lonzo when Lonzo's not handling the ball that'll be true holiday when holiday is on the ball that'd be ingram I don't see us real listing in at six six Charles Barkley once upon a time was listed at six six six four gonna have the immediate impact. He's not going to be asked to do what Lebron was asked to do so I don't really think it's a fair comparison to say Zion he caught the tail end of Magic Johnson Larry Bird Yeah but Charles Barkley era had a hell of a career be took a team to the finals right in Charles had can eclipse Lebron's early impacts nobody's thinking that that's just new people realize how Lebron while skipper early on what was the the numbers at Sacramento that open there no it's not a fair comparison nor should it be Alvin gentry say look these comparison down is not fair first of all give he's not how he doesn't have the expectation highlight plays the only comparison they're number one overall draft picks highly touted guys love these everybody's GonNa love him because he's going to play so I thought when I I was aware of Zion early last year I thought he was six eighty yeah and then duke seven and now they are officially listing him oh you'll Lebron James have been in the control giving seventeen year career and he will be that again yeah so the comparison is not there I get it he was he's going to have hard nightly skip he's GonNa highlight plays the don't write off the real first Tomahawk and then to hand blocking shots he's so he's going to be spectacular let's give he's ball skills in this where he could handle it shoot it off the glass started shooting threes late in his career but the only similarity there is yeah like twenty three or twenty twenty five and twenty eight five or something like that he was spectacular run out the ball and to your I've said this all along he's a wanted Mr attribute to me is is joy yes he plays because it's infectious and it fuels him on a nightly basis I think he'll play as hard as anybody in the Lee in every dribble yes we're every night he's GonNa bring whatever he's got that night I hope he doesn't become jaded by the process because eighty two's a lot of games lot of game and now a man that size get was wasn't built to get up and down like he explosive jumping up and down like that yeah so I told you all along his Charles was always a little too heavy but but he was a leaper for his girth and this kid here the leaper also skip address it if he had the career Charles Barkley had talked had a hell of a career he's happy to be era when by Jordan he can't just walk in the door and say well you know 'cause little brown make the blouses I hope he did not know how hard it's very hard and New Orleans is intriguing to me because they got a shot to make the back into the playoffs they can be the eighth seed but that means expectations wins are going through the roof jump yes and you're playing I told you this is lebrons greatest degree of difficulty in his career because the West is so deep now that's all they're gonNA ask about the whole year it's going to be all about us and everyone's GonNa want a piece of you and your time and everybody come to see you and expectation how does he how does he do that yeah do you see yesterday he walked by Alvin Gentry was being interviewed by the ESPN reporting you said basking about me Yeah they are he didn't actually say that attributed sucker born every minute in Laker nation right but it is busy cases really okay this l. say he ain't got to go to study hall class you gotTa You gotTa job now a real job you go to work and now you got what did he do it manages times he to eighty five now that's too heavy I got us give he's going to have to skip these two eighty five eighteen I if I'm him a look I understand New Orleans cuisine he's five through eight for them if they make the playoff Portland Portland things they gotten better would Hassan whiteside in Nurk coming back Utah Way back there is not anywhere in Houston thinks he's got namic Newell Yes we saw tonight we go baby that was in the east and can you imagine the West is stack stack sacked to the bottom bottom heavy it's ever been because teams like Sacramento he's got a lot of cases back another one yesterday was about the free throws wishful thinking about even worried about you about he got because you know in college practice got study hall you got any you got all your time is mad it's for you now as an adult you got a real job you gotta manage your own time right now the running back would be and the Reggie are you surprised McCaffrey has had this much success or early right now I'm not surprised because actually after about forty he's GonNa probably hit the rookie wall and say I have to play again tomorrow night that's two and a half time with college season it adds up quick ooh yeah and it takes a lot of aw look like a championship team to me in the first half of the first of six preseason games skew bell parts in NFL history he is only the second player to have over five hundred yards rushing and two hundred fifty yards receiving and the first five games of a season at the pace they got towels ackerman does better I mean Golden Golden State Golden State's going to be good but I don't think Golden State is gonNA finish in the top three top four I don't thought that means Kaffir is going he will break the single season record for most yards from scrimmage by over two hundred yards gaffer's teammate McCoy said if the season ended and seven yeah I believe he will change his free throw routine seventy five times during the season long they go in I don't care what okay but he can throw the Korean Hook shot from the free throw we're having this conversation the one thing I took away from that meeting was I saw his character on full display when he was in high school on his spring break trip him and right and so I figured out who he was told me his last name and took a picture Woodham but to fast forward to see what he did in college and then now in his work ethic is paying off on the football field and Carolina's now finding ways to get him the football in space right I don't know if they were doing as great a job is that or maybe brothers are in the gym working out like that and so to see him having this kind of success now it only makes sense because his character the offense threw him you're getting him the ball and space right he had a great route against Jacksonville where he ran what we call a jerk route and Jerry Rice was really wanted to pioneers of this the chance to meet McCaffrey when he was still in high school met him on a random trip on vacation me and my wife we're Miami I go into the gym him and his brothers during their working out this is why they're in high school route was where we run up if as man coverage the backer grabs you you have the option to break them down and go either east or West Vizo you turn around and sit and you catch the ball and wear and tear it not only your body but on your site yeah and you you know you romance give you got you got light bill phone bill gas bill you got a cell phone you gotta worry about now I mean not he had to worry about that you're saying that he's not just running back we can use him a lot of different ways that's why he returned punts catching the ball back running the football he we see season master how was it is a matter of time present a trophy we hold off on that that's what we do we give you a sample you taste it you like it you buy it okay that was the sample million people you'd like I'm not buying you yeah okay the field so he had a great route scored a touchdown on it and they got to do more of this though they gotta get him the ball and space because that is where he's at his best is when he's in space they weren't giving him as many opportunities when Cam Newton right there because Cam Newton is the focal point when he's about game right and so now they're having to make him the focal point they're funneling McCaffrey best cruiser sitting on my lap I didn't you tell me that he was to do yes as long as they go in Berry No mercy Christian McCaffrey has been off to one of the hottest flare get the ball in his hand and that's what they're doing they're throwing it to him they're handing it to him the pitching it to him they can't give him an and the thing is he canoe making shield again because that's what we really p.t Barnum Line sucker born every minute they're just trying to find as many different ways because it's rigid mentioned cam is not so now you have to find he's your best player so now how do we get our as you and I had this conversation the thing that I'm surprised about is how doable here's rouse lowly I agree I didn't have a problem with him running between the tackles because if you watched sporty touch of the game yeah see only two oh five to ten maybe tops I'm thinking somewhere between two zero five the thirty five to forty touches I'm there skip I'm fighting me I'll find me a personal chef better these won't take take it no no if you break down because I was going to go eighty were you told us your you went eighty shot sixty seven please leave the field he's one of the few nfl back he never leaves the field and to play that many snap and touch the ball as much as he does he unbelievable offense is a Lotta counters a lot of trades they run a lot between the tackles so I wasn't concerned with that but I'm concerned that I mean he's getting twenty five thirty almost I'd like to hear if he should seventy five or seventy six percent I'll be impressed abreast yeah you by twenty five uh-huh and I can see why he's third I haven't third on my ballot I would have mahomes one I would have Russell Wilson too late yesterday you're leaning Russell Russ three three coming out he's four four eight so so he's not he's not like world class but in his jeans and you go back to his grandfather was his favorite Christian McCaffrey you replace you know that's that's why he warned about I think he will because radio skip I'm not surprised and then cake that he'd be nice to have but you'd have to figure out ways to utilize them other than just banging him up the gut establish the run with this little man to their ride their shake them up when I won't be disappointed but he's unbelievable skill I have been shot that he has not missed a game yet who won't be able to stay that healthy but they've been doing both with him away with it because he had missed a game yet in again you timed Appalachia as long as he makes it percents at some point he might turn is back to the basket and shoot over his do re granny shot I get every needs in his dad was faster than you thought I'm not so sure I think his dad could not run hill with but he was gangly air was six five six five and a half he had won a lot of different things with them a lot of different things no I'm not surprised but you don't obviously I'm biased I know this kid his whole life so because he did Miss Games at Stanford and I thought he was going to have a harder time in pro football Minneapolis Stanford because as you know you guys are about the same son after tour for back this to thirty two four not a two Oh five guy but I'm not surprised that he can do so much he can run inside he can run outside or grandfather's it gives you supreme confidence that they did it I can do and so he walks in the door fearless like I got it right your brother helped you some scoring the most is a breakaway Ron's yeah Brita start the game last night but he's he's got an eighty four and a sixty you know he's got long runs so he's breaking we are the same size you feed he's five eleven to five whatever but again I thought that Christian would be more complemented by a smaller running back right and so when I got in the League we had deuce mcallister he was our big running back he was a bang bang now everybody wants to smaller back on not hugely but you knew when you stepped on my brother did this you know it's just it gives you a huge advantage if he grew up in MFL locker room I can do this I can be better my dad right okay and this kid might be better than all of your brothers playing quarterback ah that Nebraska let's so quite a family yeah so what what's impressive to me so far is because so he's got good really good bloodlines and I always say this in in any pro sport as long as I have if you have father live to thirty that's a normal linebacker now you brought up white running back again I covered all the way back to Craig James Remember this immune in the Patriots was a world class Mommy Mommy track from what I hear you play soccer to mom four four five coming out off and he would call him bars every time he wrote me say run bars running when he could he could really ruin the thing was that you don't think this is a b right and it's going to eventually there's GonNa be some injuries because this is a League of all stars is grown men on the other side of football but you know what helps now reggie they don't but I think with the ball in his hands he he can motormen one hundred percent and the narrative is changed because when I I like you said when I got into the league they still wanted a big running back in your candidate Brad Davis Scott case and Scott Gorski vocal yeah speaking university yeah he got to come to work and he ran around the like griffey junior right he grows up in a Cincinnati reds lock his dad is a star you know like okay I can I can do a lot of different things right now exactly probably the only other runabout Wocka say the same thing because you got saquon people look at Saquon but that I'm surprised about not the success that he's had but how durable thirty-seven touchy there's a lot of a lot of touches and again knock on wood yeah I play I play with his dad I play with his dad knows mom knows MOMS described his dad as a player what was hard work New England get to that Super Bowl bears and I thought well this this kid is revolutionized and you know what he's going to do is he's other eighty five. NFL coaches execs and scouts were asked one simple question which quarterback do you want if you have one game to win fourteen of the you see a Lotta great white slot receivers now you seeing Salat right and soleman go to inspire some kids so now they feel like twenty-five voters picked Tom Brady citing that he is one of the best ever at mid game adjustments and can always find a way to win Patrick Mahomes was the runner up with unlike when he looks fast with the ball not you know he he couldn't outrun a forty yard dash in your mind versus is it but a young white kids are now going to see I can do that too all right I can go play running back to because before Christian McCaffrey we haven't really seen a running back like him a white running back addition that Saturday so are you looking forward to my first time to your first time Oh we experienced it last year and let me tell you to see as we sit here no quarterback is playing currently better than Patrick Mahomes now Russell Wilson's close but I believe if I seared craig white running back to thirty thirty five issue could run three or four and I thought this'll be the last of the great white running because he helped gaining I guess Yeah Day to day Russell gaining rogue performance Russell has gained okay I was told that gap but hey after performance that he had Sunday g closed the gap eleven votes want coach called Mahomes quoting the most talented guy in the League he's been talking about Shannon allege. QB would you take right now that means today I'm taking Patrick Mahomes you look at Tom Brady Tom Brady has not looked like the Tom Brady that we know and love give he uses I hope that he can stay healthy but you have to know that the proof is in the pudding you get that many carries even if you to twenty five zero s going eventually it's going to happen he's twenty second and completion percentage he's fourteenth yards for a temp he's nineteen Qbr Mahomes is second in QBR seventy yards for a temp right now that's not what we're talking about today today is right now how they're playing right now in right now Patrick mahomes playing better and so if I need someone to win me again ain't date I'm taking Patrick homes what deeply troubles me about your answer is if in fact hypothetically you did have one game for your life wants to thirty five yeah he did want to realize how big he fake what is two thirty five run like that but has catch but but Christian McCaffrey the thing during the week like you're right you're right you're back in the day you have you cared about thirty thousand guess what wins the Wednesday back this nine hundred seventy you took Patrick Mahomes I'd have to look for another on the Nah I don't do that to me really is really give me the goat give me the goat and I got it six super did he did so my answer is exactly the answer that one of the anonymous quotes sear says from 'EM NFL Scouting Director safeties and down Darius Leonard Who's one of the best linebackers if not the best linebacker in pro football those three could not play and he lost at home and he's accomplished that he won those six super bowl he has all those game winning drive and gives one twenty eight thirty playoff games that's not eh Tom Brady would never even think about throwing left. I'm not here to question Tom Brady and what he's I'm GonNa have starting a pro player all pro wide receiver and a good wide receiver Sammy Watkins Skill. I mean look I'm not Tom Brady Tom Brady he just Sunday night I just saw Patrick Mahomes lose at hall Ma Homeboy at all due to an Indianapolis team that was down it's to start originally and I have a baby her show are you WanNa come and tell you so we have a two hour big news eh shale which just showed a pay they don't do that anything more times than not is a lot of walk throughs now and he's linebackers law smaller two to twenty that Same Stadium Arrowhead Stadium you had a few games there overtime. AFC Championship game what happened could we see those plays just to refresh I gotta get my homeboy I gotta take them home with I know most people are GonNa take Tom Brady for what he's accomplished but say right now if you gotta you gotTa Win a game rings with six game winning drives you can't question his all-time clutch knows but even if we're doing right here right now what did I have a Guinea and I got to win a mobile home because there's not a throw he can make that brought the he threw four touchdown Tom Brady and never ever in his best day at twenty one down we saw Tom Brady go for buck fifty yep no touchdown and an interception so we've seen Tom Brady at his worse one game for your life but no but I'm but I'm assuming that I'm GonNa Have Eric Fisher I'm GonNa have tyreek Hill them heff Sammy Watkins go along with that so I'm GonNa have I'm GonNa have an running back I forget the guy what's the guy he played Cleveland had the one good year I'll paint Hillis Hilla just he was on the madden everybody's memory third and ten is the first one any throws it too element us I was a really good throw well he didn't look old to me there next the motherland second third and ten it was forever ago that settlement again oh there's another one I I did that and then we're going in Tennessee then he could never throw it out of the stadium if in fact he did it he needed it the one that he threw early in the gang travis Kelsey where he gives you gotTa win another no look day we're gonNA find out right because they play by actually okay that's fine it won't change my opinion because I love these quotes in here they're all non imas obviously but one sees everything in the moment that's what separates him Patrick Mahomes is still a baby. NFL years he can't see it feel it uncover they were they were built like him what had like that not like van De shifty yeah right it kind of reminds me of wes welker right because before West Walker NFC scouts so there's just a level of confidence he gives every ran a one around him in those moments he does every Patriot huddle under fire under pressure fallen off the proverbial cliff. I don't know okay somebody pushed him okay live I dunno Sunday with Patrick mahomes worst game he threw for three fifteen one he's going to win they just do I want that guy one game for my life and then getting a little more technical another I think this was a general manager said the biggest game of the year they think Tom Brady's going to pull this off right there's there's nothing like having a guideline another AFC exact says smart swagger and opponents just know he ooh did we suddenly rolled in eight months ago if you had to get a win a game right now which quarterback would go up it twenty five at thirty one he could never made that throat and I'll give you that role that he made on the side landed dropped it in the budget from about thirty five Tom Brady can never make that throw new angriest it is the greatest eating fried chicken Dan to write gronk he converted three straight third and Tint in the AFC championship game in the cold at read that was last year Super Bowl the Patriots do a great do the best job that I've seen maybe ever at in game adjustments both offense and defense his ability to process information during the game adjusting and applying it is like no other most players and coaches have to wait until they see the film after the Game Not Brady now wait a minute just two weeks ago pro football focus heading Tom Brady ranked number one in the League's through I three Games has he just it first preseason game last night Pelicans head coach Alvin Gentry was asked to compare Williamson to Lebron James But gingery did it and -ticipant it the Brady campaign so if your life is on the line in one game

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Betonline.ag Super Bowl LV Betting Preview

Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles

09:04 min | 4 months ago

Betonline.ag Super Bowl LV Betting Preview

"This is the Greg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick cattles. Hey everybody. This is Greg Bedard of the crazy with our Patriots podcast special edition with the Super Bowl brought to you by betonline.ag and we are very happy to hang out with us. Dave Mason the sports book brand manager at betonline.ag Dave. How're you doing? Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me great. Great great week very busy, but fun weeks. So yeah Super Bowl baby. It's a big matchup. So we're looking forward to it that it is. Hey, first question I had for you is what can you tell me about the line and sort of where it's been fluctuating like basically, I've seen it at that online. A g at 3 or 3 and 1/2 sort of what is that sort of tell you about you know, where the money's coming in from house all that working. Sure. Well, we open 3, we had to look ahead line before the the match up was officially set at two and half. Then we went to 3 and it was getting BET right away the Chiefs. So we moved it to 3 and 1/2 and it was therefore blip. It wasn't there too long. We took a lot of sharp action on the Buccaneers plus 3 and 1/2 at that point. We just moved back down to three the public action is still on the Chiefs at -3. It's currently -3 - 115 about 68,000. The total cash is on the Chiefs now, you know a lot of people think oh, you know Sports books just set it line to create even action on both sides and we just scooped the juice and nothing is further from the truth. That's that's a fairy tale. We respect the sharp actions. So sharps are taken plus 3 and 1/2. We're going to move it to 3 now game is bigger the Superbowl. It could go back to 3 and 1/2 if the action is still so one side as 69% but once we do, you know, I think there's going to be Buccaneers late Buccaneers money coming in cuz I think a lot of Buccaneer fans are betters our home. Are sitting on the sidelines and just waiting for that to go to plus 3 and 1/2. If it doesn't they'll take the three. So that's where we're at right now the spread the total, you know is fifty Seven fifty six and half again sharps are on the under Publix on the over so it's right now. It's at 56. Okay, that's really interesting for those of us in New England, you know, obviously Tom Brady's in this game with the Tampa Bay Bucs anything that you've noticed sort of in the action about Brady and the Bucks and things like that is their wages are more interest in in Brady this time around compared to some of his trips with with the with the Patriots. Right? Well this time around hard to say, you know, every every every year Brady in the pet pet song in the Super Bowl, you know, it was good for business cuz either love them or hate them, you know, he's either here here or your villain and those kind of teams and players are good for business off. so I mean it's a great matchup it's a great story you know you have that go Brady against the baby goat right Mahomes the best I ever did it and the best that's doing right now head-to-head it's you can't think of a better storyline I don't think to to the biggest things to his biggest quarterbacks so action is great it's not only because of that action been great all season you know the covid-19 Super Bowl and last Superbowl is our biggest Super Bowl in the history that company we've been in business for about two decades now, so we're going to most likely ninety percent chance. We pass that again Brady motion has a big thing to do about it, but also just sports betting is never bigger than ever and and then in another reason for that too is just I mean sports betting is everywhere. Now, you know, you're seeing all these Sports folks pop up everywhere commercials, you know, that that the the sports shows are allowed to talk about betting now, you know used to be taboo. No wink wink, you know that kind of stuff but now all the ESPN Fox who took your favorite sports show is they got the lines plastered all over the screen and they're making their pics and everything. So more people are betting forever. So it's a bunch of aspects without a doubt. Yeah, you guys obviously have a ton of prop bets on there. I was going through it. It was it was scrolling through that list. Like they're just so many and such a variety including there's a very interesting one that involves the line Judge Sarah table. Us in this game that people can check out what profit that I didn't eat that I saw earlier in the week that I had asked you about cuz I think it's very important there was a commercial and maybe it was taken off cuz maybe the commercial are socially or something like that but it was associated with Sesame Street and there was a prop bet about which character would show up first in the ad and Grover that's the favorite and my question about that that was mr. Snuffleupagus was the longest shot I need to know why do you hate mr. Snuffleupagus you had him as the longest shot dead there's just no sex appeal to mr. Snuffleupagus man. I mean, he doesn't say any you don't say anything anyway you can do just sit there right? I forget we're going back about forty years now or more than 40 years with if memory serves me correct. Mr. Snuffleupagus is just kind of sits there and doesn't do anything. I mean the commercials only have Thirty Seconds to sell whatever I mean they can't have some big hairy dog. Elephant thing to sit and they're not saying anything. You gotta get. You gotta get some you got people gotta start talking or puppets gotta start talking and sell them whatever they're selling. All right, I'll let you slide on that wage, but I did want to know what are some of the the most popular prop bets that you see people betting on for the Super Bowl popular anything over, you know for the player perhaps the big players Brady Mahomes, you know, anything attached them especially like passing yards over under that kind of stuff by The Score first touchdown that takes a ton of action MVP takes a lot of action and not to get into the novelty props. I mean national anthem that's just off-the-charts the kind of action that gets coin flip believe it or not. Yes a lot of people but the coin flip, you know, it doesn't take maybe a lot of money but a lot of debts everybody has five ten bucks on the coin flip, you know, you go to a Urban a Vegas sports book for the Super Bowl the loudest cheer your hair all game. It doesn't matter how dramatic the game is doesn't matter. What kind of dog Plays there are doesn't matter. What kind of controversial plays are the biggest cheer you're going to hear all game is that darned coin-flip everybody in the sports book of reps with either booze or cheers. So that's just cuz it gives you an idea how much action is on that coin flip again. People are in Benton the same kind of money they would on a spread but everybody has five ten bucks on it. Just you know, make sure you have a pulse. If you don't have a couple of bucks on the page, you got check your pulse, um national anthem all the halftime stuff that the gate the liquid or Gatorade or whatever you want to call it that takes a lot of action first score of the game. Safety that that's Super Bowl few years ago and the Broncos and I guess it was a Seahawks. I think when a game started out a safety that actually killed us because people are always betting for four score of the game to be safety issues in that murdered us that game. So those are some of the biggest but I mean we have between our player props software and our regular props in the sports book. I mean we have thousands of them so long They all take good actions some better than others. Yeah, I think I think Brady started to Super Bowls with a safety. At least one of the the second giant Super Bowl and I think the Atlanta Super Bowl so look out for that this weekend. Well, that's great Dave. Thanks for joining us. The Superbowl is here. We're all excited. You can get on all the action at betonline.ag. It's always available online or on your mobile device visit bad online today use the code clns fifty-four 50% Welcome bonus on your first deposit BetOnline your online Sportsbook experts. I know I'll be down there this weekend very shortly as soon as we get off get my bets in Dave. I know it's going to be a very busy weekend to you best of luck. And thanks so much for joining us home. Thanks for happy folks.

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REShow: Kyle Brandt- hour 3 (01-27-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

45:20 min | 5 months ago

REShow: Kyle Brandt- hour 3 (01-27-21)

"The head coach of the home team in super bowl. Fifty five is the rich eisen. Show told you when you answer that phone that you and i would be having this conversation today in your the nfc champion head coach getting set to coach. Tom brady in a home. Super bowl for the tampa. Bay buccaneers have told me what. What are you smoking. Broken me something earlier on the show. Atlanta falcons head coach. Arthur smith the kademi award winning actor casey affleck coming up co host of good morning football coyote brand and now you're rich is kid. It's terrible on the plane. Surfers for tj and but thankfully it was not at all a harbinger used. The phrase or word of my english teacher used to us back in the day wasn't a bellwether for our program. I think we've had a fun. I two hours in our third hour should be equally as interesting and intriguing and dynamite cal. Brian good morning football on ten questions at comprehensive. Going to be joining us. He's been kind enough to call in pretty much every damn near week. here throughout the football season. That culminates next week with super bowl. Fifty five chris. Do you have the scotty miller stuff you news or no. Why haven't seen okay. August noonan arts all right. I'll just hit right here Because you know as aaron rodgers pointed out yesterday and when he chimed in on mcafee show as he always does That it's a week. This is slowly okay. We're wait we're always. I mean we want brady vs mahomes this weekend. Why the hell not ride. Let's go let's go. Lfg use the Tom brady froze and And so Were were waiting on anything scotty. Miller says he's going to be the fastest man on the field for the super bowl and he said what the fastest man on the field in the super bowl on his team. You mean the fastest man on the field in the super bowl. What at like running or running eating cheeseburger brooklyn. I i missed the your news. Report that tyreek hill is not playing retired. Tyreek and tyreek is responded. Like like basically good for him he did. He really say that if she did. I guess we've never maybe sky miller's got wills that we don't know about ask a green bay packer fan. How fast is true right it is. I mean i wouldn't bet my money on it. Ask a packer fan now. if you don't call the proper defense he's gonna run right by a so. This is what's filling the void better than me versus. You saint bolt which was a way to fill the void a couple of years ago but And by the way we're cultivating a caper to try and figure out how to keep run rich. Run going despite the the combine at a great chat with on that subject land. We're gonna see how we can keep it going there. Mariel eight four four. Two four rich is the number to dial here on the show call rants on the arthur smith was on an hour number one He did not. He didn't go. But matt ryan was the quarterback for the moment. But he said that. Everyone's gonna get evaluated. Chris we kind in. Its the guy. Matt ryan matt stafford shawn watson. Could all be on the move. Good quarter if that happens. Who wants him. who wants him. Where did they land. Oh man if that happens. Sam darnold could be on the move. If one of those moves happens remember last year. The tom brady question was the domino. That could go everywhere the titans just since we're works gore keeping Rhino you know and so they stayed put and then the domino of brady being here for the chargers right that led to when he signed with the buccaneers to them. Because we thought okay if he's not common though signed cam newton. They did not do that as we all know. They've got justin. Herbert which made them a hot destination to be a head coach. Who wants to be the guy who's got justin herbert attached to your hip or brandon. Staley said he'll do it and then they agreed you can do it. Adam schefter tweeted out kind of a graphic with some names on it a couple of days ago about quarterbacks whose futures earned question gophers. We can take aaron rodgers. Name off right but Well i mean his his long-term future shirt but just for next year. Because saying they're ten quarterbacks locked in for their twenty twenty one position these guys could be on the move to shawn watson matthew stafford dak prescott sam darnold carson wentz jerod gov jimmy garoppolo cam newton. Teddy bridgewater mitch. Trubisky jameis winston ryan fitzpatrick alex smith. Ben roethlisberger facts. I don't i think the cowboys are gonna. I mean by the way till they don't use me anything's possible the only reason why they would do move on from dak obviously item has got his ear to the ground i to say the least firmly planted than mine but Which one of those quarterbacks would you take over dak. If you're dallas watson right yeah yeah what else namely that list again. You're the cowboy fan. I'm listen go ford. Read that list again. Jimmy joe arpaio though matthew stafford no no no on stop. He's thirty three but you also want higher register matt stafford. I don't want to make that sound. Disrespectful okay sam darnold come on be cards carson. Wentz right no jared goff. Please went to sue rule. Jimmy garoppolo cam. Maybe six years ago. Teddy bridgewater i mean. He's a nice guy. Teddy to gloves. But no mitch amos. It's magic. oh he stopped on james ninety. Nine alex smith big ben but alex with big banner are which was just tired of saying no. That's what i'm saying to shawn. Watson is the only way that the cowboys could pause and save. Let's not let's not figure out the long term arrangement with Coming off of his Awful injury yeah. Because don's sean already has a dealer place please the only well as a contract. That's what i'm saying. The cowboys would obviously acquire his contract. Other matter i mean but the fact that dax on that list means adams here something. That's wow but matt ryan is matt not even on that list then not even on that one. That's well arthur. Smith again in the first hour i said is your guy isn't like as i said. Did he talk. Did you talk him. And and then. He didn't give a definitive answer. Sled literally said then. Let me just hit it. Directly point blank is your quarterback and he said he's going to be like everyone else evaluated at the position because the idea and you just like he'll he can come up with a an offense to make. Short ryan is successful using your players and being flexible but ryan tannehill matt ryan and everyone gets over china ball ryan. Tannehill was doing stuff. That josh allen doing this year running throwing he can run in eket throwing. And he's i'm telling you folks every said based on what we saw in the arthur smith coordinator offense ryan tannehill is up there as a two way passes threat with lamar jackson and josh allen. That's a fact. I didn't stutter. Matt ryan is now running. you know. he's not either. Neither is matt stafford. He's what you're dropping back and your slinging and your phone to four hundred yards and you're trying to figure out if you can win that way and twenty twenty one you know i look i want. I want somebody who can do it both. I want someone who can run thrill. That's the way this is now even though we are about to see potentially a super bowl one again by forty three year old. Who drops back. I get it i understand. Yeah i mean you could of course sewer ball crazy prop bets. Tom brady rush yards. Prop bet and it's probably like two and a half. You know what i mean and brady brady as you know Brady thousand career brady kneels down. He does not step back down because he knows it's a lost yard yet. That's how crazy is. He gets right at the line as he doesn't he just goes right down so he doesn't get credit for minus one. I've lost the fantasy football game once. Because the but that he because he got four. Step back quarterback took a knee three times in a row had rushing yards and his cat lose them. Let's go to our friend. Manny and el paso you news christopher Mannino pasa. what's up man even hanging on while what's up. Well hope programmer. Almost almost in your we are doing well. We have our super bowl matchup in for it. The weird part is. I'm rooting for tom brady. This reminds me of the time when joe montana Went to play with the chiefs. He wasn't hated for people were rooting for them. And they wanna see can do it. But why do i feel like the invisible hand. Roger goodell had some type of nah or his offers brand. I'll tell you ten for tom. I don't know i'll tell you what if there's anybody who is on their hands and knees begging for this even though rodgers and the packers or thanks for your call appreciate your hanging on his long. Tom brady everyone has an is. No slouch okay. And the packers fans are everywhere. They literally are everywhere. That's the one thing about the bucks is they. Don't have they don't have a fan base As long and vast and large and deep in the history and you know and Families that are passing down season tickets to the other over decades and eras and titletown. And they don't have who grew up in new jersey who get the pet rock of the nfl which is shares in the green bay. Packers giving the money like they don't have the farmers don't have that okay. They don't have that what they have. Is tom brady and i've. Cbs has got to be over all the mood. Over the moon again. The packers fan base is huge. And rogers is huge and all of that and you know rogers this commercials in a way. The tom brady doesn't and that means something. I mean the casual fan will know aaron rodgers and base. You know if i was baseball. I'd have all my stars. Do commercials dislike mahomes and you know and baker and rodgers and whatever baseball just about another day. But you know i think. Cbs is out of their minds. For this matchup right now. I think this was their ideal matchup. Right oh you again. Like i said brady in is you can't just sit here and say green bay does not have a fan base. That would turn television set on. There's a lot of people the curiosity factor who are now rooting for brady in a way that they never thought they would imagine. They would do that. Because he's no longer bella checks. They're still running against you. You watched a seamless. I'll how many people are doing a lot of people. hey watch brady. Because he was a patriot. That deflate gate in the spy gate. The checks thaw for and now. That's he's removed now is with bruce. Arians is calling in know. Drop in lines like he's cheech and chong when i asked him you know. Could you believe you're in this renouncing. You know i'll have what you smokin or whatever. But let's just put it this way. You've never from loyd carter. Bill belichick heard tom. Brady's coach talk that way. Is that gonna top are jerry jones. Our our favorite. It's up there. I like settled down all right. You go doctor jones with my river. He's gonna make sure everyone say jerry about protocols. Are you ready for a quick news. Chris brockman quick news. Update here on the rich eisen show. Today's news from the world of sports and entertainment. Someone who is not a journalist or newsman. By any definition of the word whatsoever which chris christie. Okay real quick Bills gm brandon. Bean was talking today. Kind of a end of the season. Presser wouldn't comment on whether or not they're going to work on an offseason extension for josh allen. Did say though that he thinks. His quarterback hasn't reached his ceiling just yet. You'd have to agree with them on that. I know that core. Gm's quarterbacks i would say the sky is still the limit. of course. i mean absolutely the worst games. Josh allen played this year against the chiefs yeah for too bright and you could say the same thing that whenever the ravens played against the chiefs. Those are some of we'll norris games. Although one year the ravens were about to beat the chiefs and if you remember it was like a fourth in twenty that mahomes tyreek hill out. Remember that i mean so. Yeah i again you you can't you can't you know. Sometimes it's like. Oh that's just talking up as player but you have to say that. The the game that allen played in the playoffs that he's now three games in his playoff career is now wanted to you. Know the first one he had a dynamite game but then made too many mistakes towards the end to let houston back in and win in overtime and then And there was an awful play visit awful penalty right on some sort of illegal hit by one of the linemen in the overtime member in that game and looked like the bills. We're going to take the lead over time But i was in two years ago. Houston the sky's the limit. I think That town in Where there's no placker signpost for green josh allen might be one of the top favorites to win the mvp also. It might behoove the bills to get this deal done before the price tag goes up. He is entering. The last year was rookie deal. Of course his fifth year option will right. So don't do you wanna let the ravens go first at the market. Let the ravens go. I you know what i mean. Let the let the browns go first. Let's see what's what before you go. I i'd rather go. I but then you gotta go first guy then again. How does that work out for the eagles. I'm serious you can't sit here and just say you know what i mean like. Eagles never saw that coming in a million years. Josh allen has no his injury like an interesting. I see you working. Thank you. I see working. You have no choice but to. I'm right across the way. that's good. appreciate the attention. I'm sorry it was more of a turn of a phrase. There's more to this. Jared goff rams thing guys in report saying the quote understanding is that the rams are quote expected to have an open competition at quarterback in training camp the slower they want a lot of fire onto jared goff. Don't they featuring gerry goffin. John wolf was no question that they are. They're lighting the fire. Ian used the dreaded phrase if gough remains on the roster which given the contract. It seems extremely likely that he will be but the fact that competition is being again the fact that we're seeing the two different ways of handling the situation ranjha like we're going to be competing. Yup we we're competing. We are going to keep. The coach made the super bowl. And we're going to compete this position. And the general manager is going to be out there saying we're going to compete at this position and in the eagles are like you know. Get out doug peterson. You're out new guy coming in and you're going to have the decision to make on the quarterback even though it's been widely reported the reason why they're super bowl. Winning coach is gone. It's because we didn't like his opinion on a quarterback situation one and two of the draft both boom boom same draft. Same nine figure contract around the same same same sense one franchises handling it like there's an open competition or at least they're that's what they're talking about two people in the know and the other one's just like its wentz's we believe it's wants his job still. Even though jalen hurts you could. Easily say is far more talented than john. Wolford right i would think we just know. More about hurts hurts. Completion percentage not that great but denigrating. John wolford's ability by saying this because he's an af guy not an oklahoma alabama guy. Yeah that's probably part of it he's arizona hotshot he's not an alabama crimson tide. Second round pick so amazing. How both of these franchises have a similar problem on. Its face and handling totally differently. What else you got over there chris. Kind of a disturbing story coming out of seattle. Seahawks backup offensive lineman chad wheeler released from king county. Jail this morning. It's not the only release that should becoming for him. Yeah arts hundred. Thousand dollar bond arrested early saturday morning suspicion of felony assault domestic violence according to court records accused of assaulting a woman in an apartment and a seattle suburb. According to the police report that obtained by the seattle times. The report said he is accused of throwing her on the bed strangling her before she lost consciousness and waiter picking a lock on a door to the bathroom where she had fled to call nine one one. She had regained consciousness. There's some images circulating on twitter right now. Extremely disturbing the seahawks said in a statement they are aware of the situation and still gathering it for me. Apparently wheeler according to some of these reports is bipolar went off his meds so he should get the meds that he needs to get better and then he's lost his ability to play football. As far as i'm concerned it's called a privilege you said he. He said sorry. They say how sorry. I don't know you're right. I shouldn't say that he should be released over. That's it that's the pictures and look if there was video. So if was video like kareem hunt and ray rice out we would all be known about it as opposed it. We have seen it forty eight hours ago instead of learning about you know right. We're we're learning about this on wednesday. Starting that happened saturday. Ebdon see you and an according to the report to is when his girlfriend apparently would start at. He's he asked his girlfriend about him and then she refused. And that's what set him off. And then when she came to after she lost consciousness according the police report. He said you're still alive. Why all my god can still see you. Like honestly i. I don't have time for is. Yeah there's no you wanna talk about zero-tolerance than zero-tolerance out and store that's an easy. It should be should be easy piece. It should be anything else over. Yeah just to college. Football notes northwestern as locked up pat fitzgerald to a new ten year contract. How stretches through twenty thirty he'd been. Nfl name and tennessee hired. Ucf's josh hypol- as its new head coach warmer ocean quarterback or good interesting news. Right there i go. Let's take a break so we could be relatively on time for our friend. Com brand always an interesting chat. We'll talk to him about this. Super bowl fifty five match from good morning football and his pod. Ten questions with carl brandt podcasts. At returns from hiatus today this is the rich eisen show here in the rich eisen. Show that play. The yodel theme from the price is right. We do need to get to the fact that you have zoomed. Tj jefferson in an interview to try appear as a contestant of the price is right. We haven't even touched that. But i need to get back to my guest right. Here is one of our favorites kind of to call an every single week To help us get through the nfl weeks without games and Here he is back again In the bye week prior to super bowl fifty five from good morning football and his podcast very popular podcast on the wringer in spotify is back after hiatus with his guest vigo mortenson Ten questions with cow brett. We have brent back here on the show. How are you sir. Great to be here rich. I was listening and enjoying the The highlight package that you just played their rich eisen. Show and i i. I heard boomer and there wasn't chris. Berman off the start of that boomer was part of our guests. It makes me so nostalgic it takes me right back and it's what are over the last two years even the last couple of weeks. There's been so much talk of course rich about eric. Enemy the great cheese order and every single time. I hear the name. Eric i think bloomers saying eric sleeping with the enemy. Every time we were talking about that just earlier this week. How that's why we're we're you know we're we're like mind here. Also some of his. We mentioned the pitcher. Jim two silhouettes on shays. We just mentioned the price is right. Joe actual retail price was my one of my favorite nicknames. Burt be bly. Levin is a great one and he gave me too. When i was at only got the spn he gave me rich kaleidoscope isin which was a beatles reference but my favorite one He went kim kearns as he said to me is he gave it to me. Rich bette davis is is. You don't even get some of them. I thought he would have gone rich. Bad moon isan. But that was this correct. He doesn't really try to repeat When he came on several years ago kris crocodile brockman as your nickname correct or or brockman. Turner overdrafts right chris. Talk yeah i I remember being in about it. I don't know in high school or something. And and i was a big fan of jeff. Brown paper bagwell. There's just so many. Listen at the same thing. I said about the enemy with berman. I'm not exaggerating. When i say this rich i when i'm not sleeping well or i'm stressed or something. Every time in the middle of the nights that i stir in bed and flip my pillow over to the other side. I think of scott i mean every time every time those lines stick with me there are conic and i get when i think about them. Metoo kyle brandt here on the rich eisen show. Okay what's what have you guys been talking about in the bye week here. What do you got us. A darn rogers talk. What's what's been the conversation. Aaron rodgers and it's just mostly this unbelievable brady vs mahomes matchup. I volunteered the question. Today things can get misconstrued when you people think you're saying he has an opinion offered. The question i said is this. Is this the best quarterback match up in the super bowl that we've seen now that can go a lot of ways. There's been some great ones. We had away versus far. We had payton vs brees that. There's trae c'mon jim kelly. There's been some great ones rothlisburger risers. It's tough to beat this one just because of the stakes. The story lines all the metaphors. We're talking a lot about that. And i've been following some of your comments rich that i think are timely and appropriate about brady and that. It's it's almost this exercise in fighting exhaustion and trying to find to shower this man with the praised that he deserves right. Am i the only way that i've found is is. This is that people are saying you know. He's the goat and homes as the next communist. Say hold on a second. Patrick mahomes may very well be football. Jesus he may end up being the best player ever however he is in brady zip code it tell as much as we expect from a homes and how greatest career is going to be. Do we really expect that. He will be starting in the super bowl for super bowl. Seventy three super both seventy three because that is eighteen years from now and that is the equivalent of what tom brady is doing in the year. Twenty thirty nine. If patrick mahomes is starting the super bowl for a new team by the way that he's just been with one year that will be the equivalent. Seventy three i and we. We've we've game us out all the time to kyle because y- we try. Where as all of us you me anybody. Who does this for a living. And we're so fortunate to do for a living trying to lend perspective as to what brady's doing and how we may never see again and extrapolating out you know again brady making it to fourteen championship games in that mahomes would have to in order to make the super bowl You know win this second one of or the third one of his career and then make the super bowl eight more times to match what brady's done and then make you know eleven more championship game weekends right and and so on and so forth but the truth is the truth truly is a you know and john wall she was the father sportscenter and the bird back in the day and was there when i was there he hated the on pace to conversation because it just does. You can't assume in the same way that you know. Frank reich could kick the field goal early on in the first playoff game of the year. How that would have actually manifested in the fourth quarter. Everyone would have operated differently if it was a tie score as opposed to missing those three points and so on and so forth. You can't really say on pace to accurately that said you have to look at what's already happened and just like brady mahomes status. First year did wet his beak a little bit. Yeah the week. Seventeen start brady. Didn't in two thousand and then in two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen twenty twenty. He made the afc championship game. All three years in brady's next three years he made the afc championship game twice because he won the super bowl twice. Which is what mahomes can do by winning. This super bowl bought beating brady by a year. Going back to back fort. He would be better. It's it would be a better four years start than brady and brady can personally if he wants to just snuff it out right here right now. He could beat mahomes and kind of put even more distance between him and the kid. That's on pace. That's a fact about this coming super bowl it's fascinating way laid out. It almost rich has this sort of disappearing polaroid of mardi mc flies tila affect his own future. Who can punch them out. Like he could punch him out. Punch biff out or you could just you know not you know. It's it's that is correct. That is a way to look at it. Yeah and it's mahomes is like holding the lombardi and brady coming up. Says hey you get your damn hands off everything when you look nice mike fifty years when i look back homes career is like brady. Put a stop to it and the whole on pace conversation changed. I also think that you know when you have these these sorts of arguments the whether you do the go again and there's always this army and this this this joe montana army and i totally respect. I was joe montana for halloween. When i was in sixth grade. I loved him. I loved everything about them. You know they're they're amunition as potent. They say look. Joe never lost the super bowl. Joe never threw an interception in the super bowl. He's the greatest and my response to that is like well you know. If joe had gotten to ten of them he probably would have lost a few. And i guarantee you have thrown some interceptions. So i respect the clean for that. He played. But it's it's not even in the same vicinity anyway. I think in the same area code. No we're not the conversation's over. It's over and it doesn't matter if brady wins or loses to sundays from now. And if he does win he does put more distance between him and mahomes we assume is gonna come the closest because he's not only that talented. He's got the coach. That's not going anywhere. And he's got some of these weapon. That aren't going anywhere. They're they're they're signed and locked and So we're suing. The homes is the one that can get closest because he's already off to a better start. I mean mahomes not missed the playoffs in his first four years brady did in between his first two super bowls. He missed the playoffs in two thousand to mahomes can go back to back in his first four years which brady never did and mahomes is more. You know he. He's he's you could say he's more athletically. Gifted which is something. I think even brady and his heart of hearts you know on sodium pentothal hooked up to that with nobody else around might actually even admit you know and so. That's part of this that years from now where assuming we're not gonna see it again next year because we could but years from now ten fifteen years out when god blessed we're all knock on wood talking about a super bowl seventy remember that time when brady mahomes played each other. You know i mean that's you know that's that's what's that's what's in front of us and it is pretty cool. It really is really cool I think we got it right to the this final four had a feeling Of four one seeds and the ncaa tournament like we got the the four best teams. And i think we got the best teams i mean. I think the packers would have destroyed by the homes offense. I don't think the bills are quite ready. We got these two. We had a conversation this morning about okay so you got the young really really good one and then you got the greatest of all time but let's stick it this. Let's say that your team is down five point with a minute and a half to go and you got to go eighty yards. Do you wanna hand the ball to mahomes or do you want to brady and we all kind of disagreed on it Because listen his grades done very high profile letdowns that he had in those super bowls. He's he's the one who got stripped by brandon graham against the eagles. He's the one who lost two times to the giants and did not have his best games and sure that comes with going. There are a lot of insight. You're going to mess up. But i just it's mahomes. Just he doesn't lose. He doesn't make the huge mistake. And i was one of the people at the table. As much as i respect. Brady and i haven't played a game as we get them homes because rich. Don't you think this this whole vibe of the super bowl is how can you bet against tom brady. And then you say well hold on. How can you bet against patrick mahomes. You can't bet against either of these. Yeah and that said though the time that they have faced in the playoffs before brady did get them. And then you are right though. I know you used kind of for lack of better phrase throwaway line but you know if if if montana had six more appearances in the super bowl he might have had. These brendan graham strapped Strips moment you know what. I mean like that. That could have happened. I just think that you know i'm beginning. Lean on it right now. Thinking about it When i'm behind the wheel of a car knowing. I'm gonna have to put my marker down at some point that that i don't know if it's going to be that close you know what i mean like. It was close in the final three quarters in the first Go round between these two but man. Oh man oh man. You know The chiefs might be too far in front for any brady come back to materialize when it all comes down to it you know and i know it shows the bills over the chiefs to win because i just thought maybe mahonia might not be one hundred percent. But he's on. I mean like honestly. He showed up in the afc championship game. I never seen anybody turned turf. Toe into a jordan's flu. You know what i mean like. I've never seen that before but not on either way. This team works rich as someone will also pick the bills. You know when. I knew the bills were screwed in that game when when they had no chance when they went up to nothing when i knew the game was over over because the thing with the gps. Don't piss them off like you gotta kinda sneak up on them and you know they have the muffed punt. Don't punch that in. For a touchdown you're gonna wake the dragon. Kick the field goal there and the bills nuit because they score the touchdown and missed the extra point like this way to say. I'm sorry to the football. It was too late when they went up. Nine and nothing it was over. There's something about this chiefs team where they almost like getting down early. And then they just unleash hell with the full drako and i bear that in mind in the super bowl if brady goes down the field up seven nothing about the bucks are screwed. See how that all plays out. Cobb brand here. On the rich eisen child couches bet to over like. Don't even worry about taking brady mahomes. You know what i mean. Absolutely nice to go under. Leave him alone. He's an nfl guy. Leave him alone crystal. Talk this bell rich dumpy. I know i know they had me do like read for caesar's rewards to give away prizes for guessing like flat out prop bets. I'm like wow. This is a. I've never had this Free weekends coming. So hey Kyle so vigo mortenson is your guest as your. Your pod is back in action correct. That's back how can it somewhat reclusive vigo mortenson who was unbelievably spectacular Two things we. I put him through sort of a tournament style who you got His character arrogant from the lord of the rings trilogy in straight up sword fight versus the likes of maximus william wallace john snow and he ran through them all and has people foaming at the mouth with takes about. Who's the best swordsman but rich. Here's the here's the best way. I can explain how interested in vigo mortenson is as a person he tells all the stories about eastern promises history of violence lord of the rings. All these other movies has been like crimson tide and g. i. jane and young guns two for years and yet he has this story in his pocket that he doesn't even bring out. We're talking about our games. We got on this topic and he says you know the only time aflaid an arcade game was. That was playing centipede back in the day in nineteen eighty because i was volunteering at the nineteen eighty winter olympics. And i said well hold on. Say you were in like pasta. You were there for that for that. When that game happened the miracle on ice he goes. Oh yeah. I was at that game as a vigo you were at the. Us versus the soviets game in the arena. He said yeah. I was friends with the hockey team from and beforehand. We drank a bunch of in the finlandia vodka and got really drunk and we went to the game and he proceeds to tell a whole story of what it was like in the arena that day. And how the soviets were so breathtaking but the american and he was right up against the glass. It's the craziest morton's since pounding on the glass is jack callahan's and grinding in the corner and stuff like don is what you're saying. He's there and he has whole takes on it. And i mean i didn't used to go to buffalo bills games during the oj era because he was living in that part of new york and he's got these crazy really cool vintage sports stories including being at the most triumphant american sporting in the last fifty years he was. It's an awesome awesome session allow and while we are. We got him teed up for next tuesday all You've given me some. I guess this is like a pre interview through com branded. Everyone with ritchie. Check it out and check it out on on. We're all podcasts. Or acquired kyle brandt The wringer in spotify Ten questions with kyle brat You know before. I let you go. How old are your children. How old are they have a seven year old son and a four year old daughter. Okay so you're not. You're not really where i'm just yet. Because i was talking earlier before. Twelve nine and seven trying to get them all. Choose the same movie. I tried to get them to see miracle and again you bringing up. You know her brooks and channeling him on morning football and all that put in my mind like maybe she'd start watching miracle with my kids. That really is the way. This is all work. And i could not get them the watch. It i i had. I had to give before. I received from there so my give was allowing them to say you know saying yes the green light the viewing of the war with grandpa deniro. Yes and it dawned on me in the middle of watching this that this is the first deniro movie. My children have ever seen no. Yeah and it's the first time they've seen christopher walken and cheech marin and jane seymour and i'm like wait till you see the deer hunter up in smoke and live and let die and they're looking at me like what the hell are you saying. Dad and i'm like i. It was really jarring to say the least count. Yeah so they'd be raging bull. Be damned taxi driver. It was the war. Is it the war with grandpa's the name of the is the name of the film. Yes that deniro said yes. To and at one point you know my wife said not you know she sees how i'm not handling this very well susie says to me you know without really saying too loud for the kid steer she goes to niro do this and i gave the money symbol to her. You know that's it. you know. I guess grandpa needed a new pair of shoes or something you know or robert deniro. I would be the same answer to the question of. Why did he do a rocky and bull winkle live action film. The there's been a moment. Here where bob de niro said. You know what i'm a legend. I'm gonna make whatever the hell i want to. Let's go and and i respect them for it rich. it's. I'm reminded of something in the nfl with exactly what you're talking about Drew brees when you evidently talked to him the next time asking about this because he goes on instagram post pictures with his children. You know brees family movie night. And he's got these boys watching hoosiers Remember the titans rocky one rocky one. Which is hogwash. For an adult sometimes and let them on a kids somehow. The breeze children will sit for these movies. Crazy with envy. No doubt about it. Not that i can't get my kid to watch five minutes of anything with any substance. And he's got them watching. You know gene hackman measuring the the how high the hoop is for hickory. High sitting there and learning and it's bailing and kaelin and all all of them. They're just it makes me so angry. I know you're supposed to sit there and say how sweet is this but if you have your own children you can't pull it off. Even though i did get him to watch hoosiers. But i did have to stop a few times and say can we please watch this. This is a big moment when they're measuring the rim of the floor. It's big for your data. speak for you. You don't understand it. Even you know like an and they have seen remember the titans. But there's no chance rocky. That's just not a chance in this green earth. But golly i mean if it's slow that rocky one's a slow burn their ice skating interminably who our getting meat and everything i have to watch. You know grandpa dirty grandpa. Great grandfather deniro was terrific. It's just you know on got kyle. Thank you for the call jaded. Let's chat again next week for the big game. No one has more fun than you guys next right back at you. But that's and that's the guy who has fun every day on good morning football. Take the compliment. We'll take it. We'll be back in two seconds. Not that's a phrase but we'll be back with more on the rich eisen show to wrap up our day instead of the rest of the week. This is the rich eisen. Show way stories back. You're on the rich eisen show on rich eisen. Show radio network Let's go to this phone. Call pete in richmond. Virginia how you been. Pete gentlemen how are you or well. What's on your mind what's avenue i love it. Good to hear you Del tufo please. Bring up the tape where i call jalen september and told you that we would be going be the first team to host a super bowl So now i would like to make another prediction. After tom brady over. Does better than peyton manning this has never been a brady and belicheck thing yes peyton. Manning went to another team and won a super bowl that matter how many just went to another team and did it said tom's going to go do it. In its first year he's gonna do it at home for the first time ever in. Nfl history guess go up on stage is gonna be nuff said drop the mic and then. Hello matthew stafford okay. It's my that's my call. A hot take now here next pete. Let me just say this okay. First of all I appreciate you Wearing your phantom and calling back here and Crowing about your accuracy The best way to undercut it is to ask. Mike del tufo to play something back at all that he pays attention to what anybody says around here. Let alone you. Pete who's calling back in september so fact that you think that mike del tufo has anything archived that his fingertips that a caller has done. This is nothing against you. Do you have it mike. Is that what you're saying. I think no no. I also predict based be. Okay thank you happy. how about you. Show them the movie tron. But don't tell them the year it was made it with jeff bridges. I know but they'll see it. They'll see it. It's not high definition again. Here's the problem it's not appropriate. We're all looking okay. Here's the issue. Is that again. Everything that you see on a streamer. It's got a trailer the minute that they see the grainy footage of jeff bridges you know and something that looks like a nineteen seventy video game. It's over it's done. And i can't sit here and say you know what i mean like. It's inched it's finished. But i'm trying. I didn't. i didn't have to deal with what you had to deal with. See i. I had one son. So i was pretty much just a babysitter right now. Eight thanks for the call but did you just drop them real quick even quick. I can feel quick trigger. I think he was about to say something. Sorry pete sorry. Pete makes trigger was throwing it so i kind of went. Yeah that's new again. It's just like hey dad tron. what's it about. Well it's about somebody who thriller who's a programmer. Right who gets sucked into his own video game. Is the trailer like it's. I mean they might be into the video game aspect of it and it's just like you know hey sucked into his own video game and he's got a defeat. The bad guy is in the real world as they are in the video game and it's it might be something there all right. Well let's see what it's initiative you have to show the drought again. And i have to be you know. Have to be careful because again We're on nbc. Sports on peacock controls is a a a nbc universal product but literally. That's what they will watch. That's it like an at some point. We gotta get outta the trolls. Now let me make. Let me make up for it. Hit it down You can watch the office right here. This is descending every episode extras exclusive streaming right. Now make up for. Does that make me saying. I got up enough patrols. Well i mean when you're contractually obligated to say. I did watch trolls world tour. Second time with my daughter again. The day after Miracle because i knew championship sunday dad was tapped out. So i just it's great. You sit up there and you get your daughter next year and you can watch trolls. You know kelly clarkson's voice role in it. It's a lot of fun. Kelly clarkson right speaking of which you know you can watch the office on steve. Carell chris. berman is on the show tomorrow. Nice derrick henry is on the show tomorrow like literally everybody. We talked about today. How about that is ben. Affleck on a shomar. I don't think so by toy. I guess get ready get ready. Get ready mike del. Tufo the bill. Walsh of audio mike. Del tufo last time you called yourself. That guest was program and you blew the audio now. My guy he getting michael key will be on tomorrow. I talked to football players pro football players across the board. I speak to the same football players who say you caused. And you're the bill walsh of audio and then screwing up the audio for keegan michael. Maybe one of my favorite moments amazing history. I fixed that issue. That happened says a guy who needs to county outright. I i got the trophy on the radio. Fun show today. We will see you on thursday.

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Hour 2: Weekend Observations

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

27:04 min | 5 months ago

Hour 2: Weekend Observations

"This is the dan le. Batard show with stugatz podcasts. My reaction to what happened yesterday while you guys know that. I am a fan boy for aaron rodgers. And i've got a crush on aaron rodgers because i marvel at the craftsmanship of what it is that he does for a living and mike surprise me by going to that deep dark visceral emotional place where he was mad at matt floor for betraying. Aaron rodgers for not trusting. Look this whole season where aaron rodgers was the. Mvp the story line as they were thirteen and three and a great team because aaron rodgers was mvp great stugotz. The storyline from the beginning of the season to the very end was at the beginning. The packers don't trust aaron rodgers who they just drafted right and at the end. The packers don't trust aaron rodgers. They're going to let tom brady. And this season with all the disappointment that you just heard and chris cody was saying poor matt leflore. He's getting crushed today for being a coward. A coward when you have aaron rodgers. Look at how andy reid plays with. Patrick mahomes coward. Yes look at how. Patrick mahomes serves. Andy reed's every need in those late games. And he is trusted he is trusted. All they do is have double digit deficits in the playoffs. And nobody thinks the game is over. There are the only team in the sport like that but the four teams remaining in these playoffs gots. Were all the teams on rent. That were really good on third and long where you were still scared of them on third long all of them all the teams. You're like because someone might run away from judge. All the weapons to buffalo has to and they were the team you feared least in third and long even though they were the best team in long statistically third long the bills were very good in that situation but in terms of reputation and weapons and everything you think about football i fear. Aaron rodgers mourn. Third long i feel tampa all those weapons third and long. And i also fear josh allen running around on third and long beyond everything. He's a very good quarterback. You just happened with those four. That's the guy you feel less Fear the least in that situation is josh allen. You have a feeling. Rogers brady mahomes will be able to knock out a third and long no prob. Well here's the thing about the chiefs though. They're just totally overwhelming. Feel fair you know what you gotta stop and you cannot stop it. Because they've got three monsters. You know you have to stop tyreek hill and that game begins with tyreek hill. Just dropping a bomb on which he's open because he's always open and it doesn't matter they fall down nine nothing and who cares. They're going to score thirty eight points because look at them their overwhelming. You know you gotta stop tyreek hill. You can't do it. You know you gotta stop travis kelsey. You cannot do it you know you gotta stop patrick mahomes. You can't do it. The thing with kelsey stugotz. It's fascinating to me at this point much. Like and this is part of the betrayal of aaron rodgers that we're talking about because when you have a great quarterback stugatz he can make even someone that an idiot like mean didn't think was a number one receiver or even professional receiver devante adams when he came into the league. You play alongside that kind of greatness for long long enough to god and a chemistry will blossom and you will practice over ten thousand hours of malcolm glad wells expertise and a guy that a bum like me thought was a bum becomes a legitimate number one receiver over sixteen games. Where you're like holy shit. Davante adams is amazing. He wasn't amazing yesterday. Know at least in part because with that team. If you stop davante adams you're going to cause some real problems because the rest of what they've got out. There is a pretty big betrayal. No question about it and just going back to the cheese for a second their ability to come back to him when they've been down by two scores in the playoffs. Mahomes is foreign one. I mean well but the thing about that team. As i'm talking to you about the packers and everything that happened there. And trust the idea of organizational trust and the idea that aaron rodgers sounds heartbroken. They're heartbroken 'cause brady gets to do the thing again. He's dying to do because he's so good at doing it. And his organization failed him again. Even though yes he could have run for a touchdown maybe and the way that the last half of that first half of the game happened to green bay is just nothing to do with why aaron rodgers lost that game. That's not his fault. He's been carrying bums with that franchise for a really long time. And the thing of it is now stu gods that. Kansas city has a thing with him. That's ten years younger. And furthermore it's not just tyreek hill can run down the field faster than anybody in his totally uncomfortable. The chemistry that he now has with kelsey kelsey turns and there's no way to cover him because the ball is going to be drew brees precise and he's too god damn big. He turns you on his hip. You know he's coming your guarding him. This play is to kelsey and they've perfected something with that particular chemistry and if they figure out a way to double cover it all right fourth and short. I'll throw over here to tyreek hill. Because i'm going to have those both those options on the right side of the field and you're going to have to make a choice and it's going to be the wrong one because i've got this precision with people who is excellent at what they do as i am at what i do. Aaron rodgers had to mold that out of davante adams somebody. I'm really wrong. But i still don't know what davante adams would be away from that quarterback and that precision that we're talking palestinian hill combined ahead twenty four catches yesterday for three hundred yards. Mahomes threw for three hundred and twenty-five they knew it was coming and they still couldn't stop the two of them it's insane. I'm not sure if davante adams is afforded the opportunity to save his. Nfl career because we thought davante adams was a bad wide receiver in part because he was a bad wide receiver. Disarm his career. This is not just something we made up. And he's always been awesome he had to. He had to take time to figure it out and he was afforded. Maybe the greatest quarterback of all time to figure it out with. That's an affront teheran rogers. i'm look. He's a precise route runner and he wins individual matchups now. Davante adams has figured it out but the fact that he had to be patient for davante adams and not. Just get antonio brown off the street. Look at the weapons at tom. Brady has look at the coaches that some of the game's greatest quarterbacks in this era the greatest era of quarterbacks have played for mahomes has andy reid brady pilla checking. Now bruce arians hell drew even got. Sean payton mike mccarthy the floor but before this fourth down decision that leflore made he would have been getting credit for the season that he had in his offensive scheme. I don't understand why we're putting on the floor because Granted it was a huge mistake at the most crucial time but overall hit he. He's a big part of why that offense turned around. Here's the thing right. Davante adams has had all that success. Chris look i'm a fan boy for this guy okay. It's an excellent. Look i get it wrong all the time around here but the reason that i fan boy for him. And you don't hear me fan boy for anyone else is because i'm marveling after seeing that position evolve in all the ways that it has over thirty years. I'm marveling at how amazing that dude is having the drew brees precision and once upon a time the mobility that was unusual pocket presence. That's unusual a- craftsmanship that i had never seen from the position and the reason that i feel betrayed by it criticizes. Because you're saying what happened the floor to a championship game. It's one mistake. And i'm like he dragged that carcass mccarthy around for ten years making him look better than he actually was because of how great he is. Mccarthy had a great career because of aaron rodgers how that work out in dallas like. How how did that feel to you in dallas. Did they feel organized. Do they feel like they had their shit together. Dallas going to. I'm going to start reverend down a little bit. Because i appreciate what chris is doing. Right now because. I don't even think chris believes it. He's being devil's advocate. The case for the flir. I hear that case. And yes they improved. Year-over-year the got away from not trusting aaron rodgers so much and aaron rodgers probably going to be league. Mvp this year you think. Leflore had nothing to do with their personnel decisions. This offseason. They got one player from their draft class to play a postseason snap as a team. That was a game away with an aging quarterback from the super bowl last year. Muffler had input. They decided to go with jordan love in the first route and draft aaron rodgers replacement. That's not what you do with a quarterback that ended up having an mvp season guys. It's okay to criticize garages. I i agree with most of what you're saying but tom brady has with a lot less you. Just as he is warm with a lot less on offense than aaron rodgers had this year he had one of the best running games in the nfl at he has one of the best wide receiver in the nfl. If not the hazards he has never maybe on offense in the early years when defenses. Were different now now to have a good defense. You need to just force. Turnovers table looks at have a good defense and then tyreek hill in the regular season game at two hundred and sixty nine yards. Yeah okay. let's separate the first handful of championships from bill. Belichick and tom brady because it was a different era. They beat the world's greatest show on turf with a great defense. And what tom brady doing next to nothing in that postseason to deserve it right. He had a drive. And and one touchdown thrown that entire way. That was an organizational. Obviously to god's an organizational victory the first one that brady got right. Mike and the point about the defense is good because in his losses the defense for the packers in aaron rodgers postseason laws. They always give up thirty points or more. So that defense appoint. He's a good boy. Let overlooking rob gronkowski. When is when is aaron. Rodgers had a weapon like rob gronkowski. I tried with martellus bennett. They'd tried with jimmy graham. They tried with guys who were already spent whose bodies were already spent. They kept adding pieces. Remember when they got to keep ta- leave on the outside because brady gave them salary back. Tom brady kept sacrificing so they could have these mercenaries in one to two year windows that they can make super bowl runs with any reap the rewards no doubt he's one of the greatest winners of all time. It's funny stir guys because you said and this. This is a change in my thinking. Over the years where you have always accused me of minimizing that coaches matter at all and belichick and brady seemed to have disproved that overtime check seems to be better at all of this stuff than everyone else but without brady look at what happened when we all know bella check is better at everything and when you say. Tom brady has won with less what you're looking at. I understand why you're doing. It is players on the field. Yes but he's never won with less of an organization than the one aaron rodgers dragging around on his back for fifteen years. 'cause there's always a mccarthy there there's never a bella check there's always a leflore making that decision when ten damn years ago bella check was telling you ten years ago failed on the attempt loses in the postseason to peyton manning. Because he's telling you. I've got four in short. I've got to go for it here. I've got tom brady the he did even failing and giving paint manning the ball back the math bill. Bella check who knows what he's doing did was. I'm throwing the ball here with brady. Because i know peyton manning's on the other side line. I need to keep keep the football. I'm going to trust my guy. Because i also fear their guy. I'm gonna trust my guy at the moment that matters. The most that's organizational backing even when it fails that's backing and this is what we're talking about. What you've just seen as sort of a seismic macro shift at the top of the sport where you see where in the margins the organization matters. Because tom brady is going to a super bowl and he played the lesser game in the one. We just watched. Nobody is gonna tell you. Tom brady played a better game than aaron rodgers. Their and you've seen no greater structural disconnect among the legends as brady beats breeze and now arrives here then that one right there stugotz. No one's arguing. That brady played better yesterday. Times is always telling you wins or not a quarterback stat and for brady. They get to be a quarterback stat. But this is how it's all intertwined. We've been covering brady and belle check for so many years. This is where it's intertwined. They're both responsible for what happens there. But you better have a great quarterback arians damn near eighty years old out there. He's he. He's coming back from health stuff but everyone knows that he is good at offense. Everyone knows that offense is evolving and everyone knows that that organization supported him in the huddle with players. that bill. belichick wasn't giving him at the end. I i agree. The organization is important by. Let's be clear. The bucks organization was a laughing stock for ten years dead. They were disaster. The player matters. I don't wanna hear about areas. I don't want to hear about bella check anymore. Belchite does not deserve to go into the hall of fame. As far as i'm concerned brady one everything yesterday. The i g nine straight years. They win that division. The year brady leaves belichick doesn't make the playoffs. Brady makes the super bowl. The box a disaster for a decade one. Change tom brady. Leaves there goes to tampa bay. Boom there in the super bowl coaches are meaningless. You said that wants dan remember. Bruce arians isn't even seventy unhealthy. Come on did you put it on the poll guillermo show did you think bruce arians was closer to seventy or eighty and i don't mean this to disparage his looks he just he doesn't he. He seems like not taking care of himself in terms of diet. What is that that. He has across his chest. because i think it's a defibrillator. Now are we in a dangerous spot. Where did he have some our in a dangerous place like okay. Wait a minute. I don't want to make fun of had health and stress and force them away from the game and then now he's got brady. Everything's healed brady. And he'll still looks eighty to me but wait a minute. Nutty looked great. I wanna look like bruce arians at that age. Am i the only one you are so old on at lebatardshow. Put it on the poll. Guillermo do you wanna look like bruce arians when you're his age because i'm surprised that you're saying that because i just thought he was eighty. I thought he was closer to eighty. Then he is seventy because he looks like the stress of the job that he's wearing it that it's not a very relaxed existence. I feel like he's like. That's what i'm going to look like if i had to project what i look like at that age i feel like bruce arians. Let's go around and say what. nfl coach. We're gonna look like let's do that. Let's end this segment there to end this segment with what mike ryan is going to look like offensive coordinator aaron rodgers at that. Whichever head coach has life oh and airplanes. That'll be me. Look like dom capers and like rex ryan immediately following the procedure ability. And figure out what bill is gonna look like. What are you going to look like as a coach in your eighties and my aid. Yeah i see. Pete carroll some mail i dig how about dick for meal kotite. I see a rich. Kotite was rolling colon coach a couple years ago. The people said i looked like oh. That's right The head coach of the tampa bay vipers The mid morning trestman trust. I give chris. You're andy reid what's wrong. What's wrong with that. What's wrong with that. What do you mean i said. Do you want to look like bruce arians. You think anyone's answering yes. I'm gonna look like andy reid. Let's take a second here for our friends at draft kings football fans. The moment you've been waiting for all season is right around the corner draft. Gangs the official daily fancy partner of super bowl. Fifty five is bringing back their golden ticket giveaway with up to fifty five million dollars in prizes up for grabs about that fifty five million dollars in prizes for grabs. All you have to do to get your share of these. Huge prizes is enter kings. Free super bowl prediction challenge. Once you submit your pigs you will get a free instant prize up to twenty five thousand dollars that and if you have the most predictions correct you could win. The top prize of one million dollars ammo. The app dow enter the free prediction. 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The mad dan just like that demarcus cousins s is backed us. Bogey just me or is this the fifth time greg olsen has retired a serious. Let it on the poll. Guillermo has greg olson retired five time. This year was the first year. Tom brady played on a wildcard team. No observation just a fax virtual radio row lebatardshow dream excited and we do that. Virtual radio or other virtual radio this year. We're still going to avoid it. I don't want to be a part of that nonsense bad. I listened to the south. Pete sessions with john skipper and i still have no clue what we're doing in fact a more confused than ever something about storytelling. Here's a story. I'd like someone to tell me. The story's title is salary benefits. Ed stock options part. Three and four with john skipper on not knowing what we're doing next coming this week on south session. Box packers brady rodgers evan. The bucks are better without antonio brown at the end of the first half the packers look like the jets. Here's a life role you never ever want to look like the jets. The texans could signed barack obama at this point to be their next head. Coach shawn watson would still want to leave seriously as god's good higher. Why forty five. I don't know his first name and he certainly not white but he's on the box. He's always around the football. You know what one might say dan. He has a nose or the football. I thought you were gonna make a white joke of some sort. I'm sorry. Death taxes at cameron break wide open in the ends of nfl defenses news flash when the bucks get between the two and five yard line. They're going to go with the hard play action. Fake and past the cameron break and if they get to the one it's the brady sneak. What a difference a month makes for all gunners slot shar and the red devils klopp. 'bout oh it's only whatever only slosh up i got the last day right of snow inside inside. Are you guys doing that. Four athletes that connote act acne jordan. Whitehead say brown. You'll be lucky if you're playing for the browns or sakes next year because guess where you're now green bay mike evans. Now you know why he doesn't throw the ball that much mike. If you want some advice on how to turn it around on brady. Your hands were rusty from the lack of balls brady. Threw two you this season. Little play out of the stu. Gods playbook the third and a dark to johnson peak and i mean peak. Tom brady did you see it all starts pretty got he had. Somebody passes that were banned yesterday. That one not that one. That one was a dark. You can still be brady on seven. Plays a game all of them winning the super bowl. Scotty miller can scoot deceptively mike evans. Don't be surprised if you are traded before the super bowl radiant rock like riding a bike. I have no idea what that means but like as it is like riding. I thought the same thing. It's like grown quite all game. Wait a minute. He came out of retirement to block. Oh look the screen pass. It's like writing for thirty one yards. Did you really exciting riding a bike. Polar bear on a bike there. He goes down the side. I'll look grunk is again. We had the same thought of this dog. Watching the football game in progress. Do joe and troy has the same jacket. it's weird. I mean seriously but other poll guillermo said weird the joe and troy have to wear the same jacket daniel at the are in rogers stands for not running. Tom brady has played an eighteen percent of the super bowl believable. Christ no issue with the flag buck. And you're not wait for minutes. throw it. matt. Leflore have aaron rodgers and you chose mason crosby. The game between bella check brady is over. Brady one everything. And by the way lou even mason crosby look confused stash. This one away in these someone should look into this file rocks looking a lot bigger and faster in january. Then he did in october one. The what's going on. They're locking all season and all those bolts falling out of his body because he's taking forty hits a game because he's doing forty catches look at spry. It solves today box the rare game. Where does it matter if they win or lose because there are already home. It's not winner. Loser go home. It's win or lose and then afterward just go home at your home. That's the other part of this. That's unbelievable really brady. You're going to be the first to ever play in a home super bowl game seriously. i mean. can you imagine being bella checks living room. Yes there's no way. I enjoyed that. There's a deal with the devil. What i'm telling you. Hear breaking this news. I hope he. Spn s to run with it. Mahomes is going to get kobe. Like something's going to happen here and brady brady against chad any if that's what needs to happen for him to hold up another trophy Cadel himself might give it to mahomes. Eric fisher already tore his achilles exactly. It's a deal with the devil. I said six years ago. He just made the first super bowl ever my home team forty three. You think should get bo. Talks hockey started. Television doesn't get more uncomfortable than the halftime tease with this. Cbs pre-game show pretending they are sitting around watching football. And yukking it up. She's fill since bills chiefs shitty sids. Dan said tom brady was finished in two thousand and thirteen brady is thrown for thirty thousand fifty five yards two hundred and twenty two fifty seven interceptions. He is won three super bowl. Played in four and in less than two weeks will play in his fifth goal. Guillermo put it on the poll please. Has tom brady had three separate hall of fame career. I had no idea a thirty. I'm sorry i had no idea a thirty day supply of chris. Door was three hundred and eighty six dollars. What the hell speaking to hell or damn those are the weekend observations. Any benefit that he's.

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Peyton takes down Brady | Onside kick proposal is stupid

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

36:48 min | 1 year ago

Peyton takes down Brady | Onside kick proposal is stupid

"It's the stink in truth. Podcast with Marc Schleyer. It presented by sweet sweat. Hey we'll stick to podcast mark slurred alongside my guess got the hub producing millennial. Ben Helping us out as well got a great show planned for you today by the way. Thanks to our presenting sponsor the great folks over at sweet sweat. And I tell you what we're GONNA DO Question Mark Today so get your questions. Well you can't get your questions in because I'm recording. This you idiot get. You didn't next time for a chance to win a seventy five dollar gift bag full of great stuff and things. I've been using the exercise bands and the waistband trimmers and all the different supplements they have over there at sweet sweet sweet sweat dot com to find out more information about the great folks over there at suites with that sponsor. This show Mike. How are you buddy? I'm doing good. I'm doing good still kind of riding the wave of what would turn out to be a much better more entertaining than expected match their between tiger. Woods Peyton Manning Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady. What what were your takeaways from watching manning and Brady Oh you know what I absolutely loved Like watching them struggle. I don't I don't know if that says something bad about me or what but you know I know how hard Gulf is right and to watch them struggle off the T. to watch them kind of quote unquote out of their element and to struggle off. The tee now made some great second shots Peyton. Manning made a couple of great second shots a great approach shots and a couple of those things but to watch them struggle in that venue knowing. How competitive are what great athletes? They are. What great quarterbacks they were golf is an entire it just an entirely different just an entirely different sports so crazy one of the things one of my little takeaways was and I like to. I like to think that you know I'm funny. But sometimes I just piss people off but one of my little takeaways was celebrating little victories in as I watched that you know I spent so much time over memorial weekend in my yard. Doing some landscaping are spreading. Mulch taking the mall job put new mulch in and and you know cutting along and just doing a bunch of just doing a bunch of yard work and and I was. Hey man five hours of yard work. You know this what I learned about that if I spent five dollars in my yard and they spend five hours on the golf course My yards going to better than their scorecard. That's a little victory to me. I'm better at yard work than their golf now. I would probably crap down my leg if I was in that same situation. Playing Golf in you know with the cameras on. Yeah in that in that venue. I think it would be absolutely nerve wracking one of the other takeaways for me. Mike was I was fascinated watching and listening to Phil. Mickelson like the level and the depth of knowledge of the way the grass is running in the grain and the grass and what the water does sitting on the grass and he made this chip shot. He explained look darker over there and that means the grain is poor. You know toward me but I I normally I would try to hit it on the green but I'm a drop it a couple feet shortly green because the grass is not going to bite it. It's GONNA slide right over the top the grass and it's GonNa Roll up explained. The whole shot the whole process all the different intricacies that I would never even thought of before I hit a golf ball and he executes it perfectly and the thing rolls up to you know eight inches away or a foot away it was. It was fascinating to me to watch the depth of knowledge. He has of his sport the expertise he has and he was just watching him. He was a lot of fun it was. It was a lot of fun to watch Peyton that this is an event that's made for Peyton. You know the right wise cracks and all that kind of stuff. I don't know if it's so much made for Brady Brady. Maybe it's because he's been so button-down for twenty years with the Patriots that it's not necessarily an environment in which he's just going to come out and all of a sudden you know start cracking jokes and everything like that although although once he made that shot and holed out from the fairway. It's like a giant weight was lifted and all of a sudden. He started chirp because he'd been really quiet up until that point. But I think you're starting to kind of see Brady freed from the shackles of the the Patriot. Way being much more visible on social media putting himself out there doing something like like this all things that if still a patriot. I'm not so sure we'd be seeing this kind of stuff Yeah I don't know either. I thought I thought that was fascinating. I thought the fact that he ripped his pants during the course of the of the event was funny to me as it. Just was yeah. It's a completely different venue. And you're right about Peyton. His ability be quickey and and same with Phil. And then. You've got tiger. Who is you know? Tiger is like I think that's probably just who he is. I thought Charles Barkley's description of Phil Mickelson was so apropos and any basically said you know everybody's got that annoying friend that you ask him for you know you ask them a question and he gives you a ten minute dissertation on the history of whatever like like that's Phil Mickelson but I appreciate that Phil I just thought I thought the whole thing was cool. I mean I you know got me. Obviously I think everybody thinking like who do you like to see in the next one and let's just limited to NFL guys? Is there any current players that you would like to see in that format while? That's a good one. So you think you think of some of the more personable charismatic players out there. That would be good in that kind of environment. Jj Watt would think Jj Watt would be pretty good at that. I think Aaron Rodgers could be more of the dry. Just really dry witty type stuff digs those kind of things Those are a couple that come to mind how about you. Well I mean I've got the winner right off the top of my head. I got the winter as the question without anybody in mind. Instantly got the winner. My Philip rivers now. Yeah I mean just cannot wait to talk smack. It's what he I mean. That's what he he doesn't curse each is he. You talk about annoying. That guy is totally annoying so he would be. He would be phenomenal tab out there doing those things. I don't know who else like O'Leary Fitzgerald Larry's a great fits is a great golfer. Larry Fister I don't know let's gotTa be it's GonNa be superstars. Who are who have who have personality charisma. I mean you know Brady and manning were were perfect but I don know who behind them. Who's the Brady who the next Brady mahomes bench? Mahomes would be fun. Yeah I'd love to see Mahomes Lome's mahomes definitely talking about. Is Patrick Mahomes now? The new face of the NFL. I know Brady's still fascinating especially now because he's going to Tampa but come on is. Is Patrick Mahomes new face to the? Nfl Yeah I mean the NFL MVP. From what twenty eighteen the Super Bowl champion for twenty nineteen? Yeah no question about it. I mean I mean he is he like. He is the Unicorn. I mean the guy is. He's phenomenal player and they've got a they've got a great football team and he ain't going anywhere. I mean that dude that dude is good dominate. This league very much well differently but very much. The way very much in the way that that Tom Brady has dominated this league but very differently you know with dynamic it with with charismatic type of plays and dynamic nature like I think sometimes when you have a guy that's that athletically you don't and you see you see the side arm stuff you see the no look passes you see the left hand switch you see him scrambling around making people. Miss is still finding a way to chuck forty yards down the field. You see the superbowl on third down and fifteen when all hope is lost and he chucks one over to tyreek. Hill for a first down. I mean you you see that what what gets lost is his ability above the neck to understand. What's going on like the subtleties of the quarterback position? Like him looking off safeties him misdirecting people all the different that he does like he is a student he has got. Great Football Acumen And I make sometimes. It's like it's easy to see that stuff with Brady or with peyton manning or with is that aren't as gifted athletically. I think. Sometimes it's harder to see with guys like Patrick Mahomes because Egypt. Cd enormous talent trite. You see the gift But that guy really has a like an incredible depth of football knowledge And he's not going anywhere anytime soon. The guys absolutely incredible about mahomes. We could make this whole podcast about homes in in certain tangents of homes. But when they were talking about this new onside kick proposal the fourth and fifteen. Andy Reid kind of joked about and said I. You know I got a guy who doesn't worry about third and fifteen in the Super Bowl you you think I'm he's GonNa worry about four th and fifteen and that kind of situation so I kinda liked the idea of the onside kick proposal. The only thing I don't like about it is that the loophole is that teams. Have the chance to use it twice. During the game so in theory they could they could have just come off a drive in which you know. You're rolling offensively and just put together a long drive. That totally gassed the opposing defense. And you may think we're so confident right. Now we've got a two touchdown lead. We've got a ten point lead. Let's really go for. We'll try to put this game out of reach and turn right around and say hey we want to take the fourth and fifteen option in the second quarter for example early in the Third Series T. That's me I don't like I liked the idea as an alternative only to the onsite. Kick if it's only for the onside kick then I welcomed the idea because the onsite kick has gotten boring. It really has like I. Am I think this idea is insanely stupid? It's preposterous preposterous to go for you to go preposterous. That's from foster. In what in what world in world do you just get to go? Hey guys timeout we get we. Get the ball on offense again. We like we just scored a touchdown and instead of kicking the ball off to you right for you to have your chance with it or trying to trick you and create onside kick and trying to create a scramble a turnover what we do is we get to snap the ball offensively. One more time that to me is the equivalent of going came in. We just had a really big inning in baseball. And we got the third out. You know what we're GONNA do. We're going to go on offense again and we're going to continue or at bats. Oh we really feel motive about it or A. We're down in the ninth inning. We're not only going to bat in the top of the night but we're GONNA ban the bottom of the ninth to because we're down it's like where in the world does that ever happen. Thank you gotTa dial back. I personally come on the NFL for for for however long it's been around. How long young side kick around? It's not like it's a foreign concept would start of time case since the start a time. Then there's been a play in football where you can signal your intent to do exactly what you just said. We just scored. We just had the ball and we want it back again right away. And we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA go for that by doing an onside kick. So how is this really that out? How is how is this? Fourth and fifth thing that crazy it's crazy because there's a difference between kicking it off with a seven percent chance of getting the ball back like you're kicking off so you have to make a play. You gotTA executed kick. You gotta find a way to get the ball when the offense of team is scrambling to get it and then if you get you get the not. Just Oh hey guys where you get the ball again on fourth and fifteen. I mean that is the most vitamin hold on. Hold on hold on. I'll let you go. You're saying well it's only a seven percent chance and you got to do all these things you got execute and kickoff and recover offer justice seven percent success rate. What do you think the success rate is for teams go for it on Fourth Fifteen? Probably not good. But you're getting the ball your offensively. You're getting the ball. You're getting the ball. You don't even have to fight for the ball. You don't have to create a terrific. Do all these things still convert on what is an incredibly low percentage play with the understanding that if you don't the other team takes over your twenty-five ballgame over yeah. I I get that part of it like hey you wanna you wanna make it tough like if you want to increase the chances getting a kick. I got an idea. It's no it's no more stupid than the one of four thousand fifteen from your own twenty-five blindfold the receiving team. Hey guys you got eleven guys out there. Seven of them have to be blindfolded. Pick your seven. Pick your seven. I mean it's it's an absolutely insanely stupid idea. Say It's it's dumb so you just would continue the way it is right now. Yeah you get fired up when you see the onside kick gay ready to happen. Yeah or or or change. Change the rule how many guys you can have on one side you know now now then it becomes a safety issue will. We can't have that you know we can't have seven guys on one side you know. They split them in half fifty fifty. Whatever you know that used to be different than that but But the bottom line is figuring out you know be creative figure out a way to get that done but just to give the ball. Just say hey we score. We kicked the extra point. Now we go back. And now we get the ball again it makes. I think I think you'll find people love the idea and I think I think that idea is almost as stupid as challenging the pass interference calls and then never actually letting anybody challenged the passage pass interference calls and having that thing. Become the unmitigated disaster. It is and then scrap piling a whole thing after one trial year that pass interference. Rule never never felt right to me. Although you know it did feel right to me. I'd like the idea of the sky. Judge where you have this this I in the sky to help out with replay. Because WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED ABOUT. Replay over the last couple of years. Is that even with all kinds of technology involved and extra is looking at it and they still can't get these calls right. There's still no feeling of consistency for all of us football fans who watch every every week so if this is yet another way to to truly get it right then I don't understand why the NFL's cabled that That that rule change. Yeah that is a like to truly get it right here. The the point being my point has always been this when it comes to replay like how many times it wrong. How many times do you look at it and go? It's not like I don't like that. That's not wrong like the whole purposes. Hey the reason we put instant replay in is to get it right correct right. How many times have we arguing about the fact that they didn't get it right how many times the NFL have to come out and apologized for not getting it right right don't they? So why the hell do we have it? Honestly did it did it. I mean well okay. Yeah Okay you're see folks you gotta understand Mark Mark is is I'm Gonna I'm anti anti replay. You just soon go back to human error part of the charm of the game. No no yes because these games there are so few of them they matter so much and no matter how much you may say. A replay isn't perfect. The fact is is that at least it still gives the possibility of of your team winning game or avoiding a loss because of the technology to go back and look and correct a wrong. Unless you don't have a challenge flag left well then we don't. I'm not I'm not saying we don't care then we don't care about getting it if you don't have a for like live then we don't care about getting it right like which one is it. I'm not saying I'm not saying that. The system is perfect but I'd rather have a flawed system then no system at all well. No System at all is a flawed system. So you gotTA SYSTEM. Well if you have if you have no system not here. Here's what would happen. The replay goes away and in the initial days of no replay. People be like. Hey this is the way the game was intended to be. It's you know. Human human error is a part of it and that will last right up until that first Sunday that your team loses when a play that should have been ruled. A fumble wasn't and your team ends up losing because of it and everybody who watches the re because the replays are still going to be shown that you know you guys and TV. You'RE GONNA continue to show the replaying. We are going to get the benefit of all of these replays. And if it's clearly hey wait a minute. That was a fumble and it's it can't be. It can't be reviewed. An overturned people are going to be pissed. Yeah yeah that'd be pissed. They not gonNa hear people on Monday morning. Same while my favorite football team lost yesterday on a terrible call that replay would have been reviewed. But Gosh Darn it. Hey they're human too. They make mistakes. I'm okay with that. Come on daddy your mark up being so naive. I'm not being naive. I'm just telling you the whole systems the whole system stinks and if you're going to revamp it revamp it like I'm okay with the skyjacked. I'm okay with with with saying all right. We'RE GONNA call the game the where we're going to call the game right and we're going to let our officials dominate the game and be in charge of the game and and they're unless there's something agreed that we will look at. We'll look at every call the happens and if there's something there egregious will stop. The game will correct it if not. We'll just continue to play on. I understand I don't understand why that's so hard. Mike. I don't understand I don't understand. I don't understand the challenge strikes. I don't understand the all that if you want to get it right. Let's get it right all the time and let's have somebody let's have a group of people in kind of I in the sky like we've talked about that. They decided not to do. Let's have a couple of people looking at every play because it doesn't take you mean if you're huddling you're watching there's plays a game that are that are egregious or that have to be stopped and looked at you know seriously maybe a couple of quarter right like. I don't understand I don't understand you know in the history. Onyx have gone to the sideline and look at the tablet and all the garbage. Like you know and I understand that. That's an ad you know. That's that's not about that's about integrity. Take the game. We're getting it right. That's about selling advertising right with the Microsoft surface. Stuff like that. That's again that's another ridiculous thing that we do. But I you know we gotta pay salaries and we gotta make money. I get all that stuff but the bottom line is if we're going to revamp it let's revamp it and let's do it the right way like if it's if it's wrong then it's wrong and if it needs to be overturned it should be overturned whether or not you have a challenge. Flag could shouldn't come to that that's true that's true. So that's the part I have and that's while we say let's just scrap it until you guys are willing to do it the right way like the one thing that drives me crazy drove me crazy as a player. Mike and it drives me crazy as an analyst and a football fan when you know a catch when you know wasn't caught and we is an offense scramble up there before the opposing coaches can get a good look at it and try to snap the ball and wasted down. We throw it away. Wouldn't you were starting that series at second down and ten as an offense and you're just trying to keep the ball in your hand and they're scrambling to try whether they should you know challenge flag it or not and that looks like to me. I always say it. Looks like eleven clowns jumping out of a clown like it's it it takes away from the integrity of what we're doing as as a league. I think it's I think it's ridiculous if we're GONNA do it. Let's do it the right way. Let's make sure we get as many of these things right as possible. Let's make sure that if you know if if the coach doesn't have a challenge something agree GIS distant go away just because he was out of challenges tough luck that's too bad and let's try to get it as right as possible. I don't understand why that's such a foreign concept. I guess this is where we differ you. You look at a flawed system that might as well be scrapped. I look at it as the intention of it is good and necessary. Let's take a flawed system and make it better so yeah well having. That's that's how we differ. Well I'm okay with making a flawed system. I'm okay with making it better. I'm just saying if you'RE NOT GONNA make it better if you're not if you continue to do things like you know we're not going to go with this sky judge because it's GONNA cost US money we're going to have to. Have you know at least what every week? They're sixteen games going on so we're GONNA probably have to employ thirty two more officials and that's gonNa cost really you make fifteen billion dollars a year right. Yeah I mean heaven forbid well we gotTA travel. I gotTA travel. You know these these two more visuals. They gotta travel there come on your the NF L. and you know and and you make decisions and again that's why get I. That's why I just get frustrated with the whole thing so anyhow that's just kind of where I stand on instant replay in general. So and I'm not budging Mike. I'm going to be stubborn on this. All right mark time now for question mark where we get here from the great listeners. for chance of great prize. Yeah love it. Well let me shoot you ready here. We go all right. This one comes in from Danny Denver who says do you believe in drew lock. You worry about a sophomore slump. Do I believe in two separate questions? Do I believe in drew lock? Absolutely I believe in drew lock. I love the intangibles. I love what I saw. I love the enthusiasm Just the armed talent. I love a lot of things I saw from drew. Lock in regards to win. Things broke down his ability to make a play with his arm. Third Down Conversions. There were a lot things to like about drew. Lock in the way. He led the offense. Do I worry about a sophomore slump? Absolutely I worry about a sophomore slump And mostly because there's there's several reasons when you talk to defense coordinators around the League and they're planning young quarterback that they don't have a book on. They don't have a lot of film on one of the things they do is is. They'll tell you point blank. We're GONNA PLAY PRETTY VANILLA. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA see this guy. Can you know to use a Hank Schram matriculate the ball down the football field? We're going to give him the underneath stuff. We're going to give him some completions and we're just GonNa see what he can do. Because one thing we don't want to do is be alter aggressive and have him athletically. Move Out of the way and throw one seventy eight yards for touchdown and then everybody get excited. So they basically go with the kind of they go with the game plan and this is most coordinators. I talked to that are facing a young quarterback. They go with the. Let's make them earn this through. You know four five six yards seven yards eight yards at time and so as they tend to get a book on a player. Then they'll be like all right. Here are the things he doesn't do well you know he doesn't. He doesn't throw well when he's drift into his left. Whatever so we're GONNA bring we're gonNA bring you know from a formation standpoint. We're going to bring a bunch of You'll a bunch of blitzes from our left hand defensive left hand side the right hand side of the offense and force him to escape left and see if we can create some errant throws that way. So you know they'll be some game plan. Adjustment things the other part that I worry about. And I know everybody gets all their panties in a wad over. Hey all the talent John elway draft you know to wide receivers first and second round another tight end. That can really run and this that and the other you know. You're counting on young players in you. Know we used to have a saying when I played Young guys get you fired. You're counting on young players without an offseason without time to go through the O. T. As in the mini camps and all that stuff to come in and be difference makers with Oh by the way brand new offense with an offense coordinator and you know in a bunch of new players on offense How many different. Alva you got your your center. You're right guard and effectively. You're right tackle. Three fish offensive line are going to be new because John. James played sixty snaps last year So you got a whole right side your offense. They're going to be brand new players anchored by a rookie center with a rookie wide receiver. That's GONNA be counted on to produce a second year tied into rookie tied in o n a rookie. Slot receiver. That's going to be counted on to produce like there's a brand new offense Jahmai. Worry absolutely. I'm worried I think with good reason without any practice so you know I mean it's GonNa take time to figure out exactly what you are what your identity is what your players can do and can't do and we're gonNA find that out you're gonNA find that out during the games the first six eight weeks like you could start the season two and six and be done after eight weeks just trying to figure out what you are? I don't think that's going to happen. But it certainly has a the capability of happening. This question comes in from at Harmon. Bruno Eleven stink toughest D. Lyman you ever played against You know it's I mean that's a that's is. There's a big. That's a big group of of guys. Because I played against Lawrence Taylor and I played against Reggie white played against Jerome Brown and I played against you know Warren Sapp and I played against John Randall. I played against a lot of guys that you know that were great. Cortez Kennedy And so you know. Every guy has different skill sets That make that guy. You know. Hard to contend with Either there's a couple of guys that gave me fits in past pro- Guy Like like Dennis Byrd was his. He was so good with his hands He was such a good player Phil Hanson from the Buffalo Bills. He was he was a skinny. Little Dude But he was so good with his hands and he was so good at not giving you target to punch a guy by name appears Holt back in his San Francisco days that I struggled with because He was so good you know with his hands and really like he was. He just was a good player. That way John Zarrella for the chargers back in the day used to give me fits in Romblon because it was very few guys. I couldn't take off the ball That I couldn't create you know that couldn't create movement on From around blocking standpoint and Perella was one of the guys that I just had fits with. Moving him off the ball He wasn't he wasn't a great pass rusher by any stretch of the imagination but he was a really damn good football player. So most of the guys that I struggle with I would I would tell you. Most of those guys aren't aren't a household name guys like I. I always played well against Cortez Kennedy or even Warren Sapp and some of those guys But it was it. Was those other guys. You know that that the majority of people have never heard of that. gave me fits because of a unique skill set that they had and usually it was guys that like. I said that would never let you get your hands on them And those are the guys to me that were the toughest for me to block one more for you and you and I are both big baseball fans and you of course Your sunny a former and hopefully future big league pitcher but this one comes in from ant man five one six three who asks mark what do you feel about the MLB owners wanting players to take a pay cut. Well I you know. I think that that's right. A right out a unit. I've talked about this Blanche Mike. It's right out of the owners. Playbook right is haze one page. One is create a narrative to make the players. Look greedy bastard right and and it drives me crazy in that I look at it from this. Standpoint is one. They've already miss part of the season so they already agreed in March to take a prorated portion of their salary. Now you agree to that and then you come back and say hey that pro rated portion of your salary. That's part of your contract for Playing Games. We're going to need you to do now. Is to take that and cut it in half again. So we need you to play for a quarter on the dollar of the contract that you negotiated through collective bargaining and or you know and that's off of fifty percent of you know fifty percent of of revenue. But we're not going to open our books and show you this just a number that we came up with now you you tell me in what you know what. Bizarro world that that is even remotely Remotely acceptable well. Yes I I completely agree with you. If the owners are wanting a fifty fifty split you got to open up the books. I I completely agree there but I think the owners are well within their rights to come back and say look I know we negotiated this negotiated that or it's part of the CBA. But something tells me stink. There's no part of that. Cbs that has a pandemic clause in it. All right this is this is all this is this is this is a whole different thing here and I think that while everybody else is adjusting on the fly Major League Baseball and Major League baseball players need to adjust on the fly as well and understand that just because you you collectively bargain something or may have agreed to something two months ago. Low changes in two months as we found out around here right well. And here's you know here's where we're gonNA find out like okay so players. We want you to take a quarter on the dollar. But we're not gonNA open up our books as owners And from a player's perspective. Then tell you what you know Baseball owners you guys go out and play and see how your TV contracts go. I mean this is the alias. This is why this why fans Have you know I've always? Yes sided with owners because owners put out a narrative out there that makes players look bad. We've seen it with his DAK Prescott negotiation for three months. This by the way this playbook is for for all owners. Oh sports page one on all owners all sports playbook right. Here's what we're GONNA do. Make OUR MAKE. Our players look greedy turds and and have the The fans turn their backs on them. and try to get them to play based on all on pressuring the player so like. I I totally understand that. It's unique times Mike. But if you're going to ask for unique measures on those unique times then you're going to have to open up everything every every scrap of revenue coming in. And you're going to have to show US exactly what that revenue is. Oh by the way. I need to know what you're making as an owner. How much are you taking right? Does that like I need to know all that stuff before? I'm going to agree to any fifty fifty revenue split in an over by the way any new revenue comes in. Why you guys. Are you guys why we're playing while we're out there because you know people would say well? What risk of the players taking the players have got to give something up well? The players are risking potential injury for a portion a small smaller portion of their salary. They're the only ones that take it. They're taking the real health risk of of corona virus. And all that. So as are the coaches so I would just you know I would just say that I don't like I automatically side with players because I'm a former player and then I automatically Emma Leery of the owners when they say oh guys you know. We're like we're going to go broke if you guys. Don't you know you guys don't take the majority of hit on on the salary aspect so I like open up your books and show everybody. But they won't do that because they don't WanNA show like a lot of times you know and this is this goes from the NFL. Playbook is like you can show a limited profit like you're not making any profit and you know you're you're you're you're paying your son at twenty million dollars salary and your daughter ten million or twenty million dollars salary and your wife fifteen million dollars alary and and you shohei. Hey we're not making any money. We're you know more right. We're we're making zero like there's a reason that billionaires are billionaires right there's a reason that that people that make boatload of money don't want to open up their taxes. Friday because the because it's the way they are able to do things is shady and so I would just say I would just say from the player standpoint. I totally understand that and I totally support the players. For saying yeah. I don't trust your fifty fifty revenue Split Maloney I well. Let's good question. Good debates could stations definitely timely and it does crossover into football as well. So let's give the sweet sweat gift to Anthony At andt man fifty one sixty three okay I am I am on that I will I will follow in. Dm Anthony and And we will get that done and we'll get you out of gift package So all right man. Call that a wrap buddy. That's good all right for everybody. That is involved. Stink at truth. Podcast we thank you so much for our great friends over at sweet sweat. Check them out at sweet sweat Dot Com for Mike Myself. For Ben for Scott we will be back with you guys later on. Thank you so much.

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Hour 2: Sad Radio Row

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

33:25 min | 4 months ago

Hour 2: Sad Radio Row

"This is the dan. Lebatardshow with to spot cass All right so billie very mischievously. Billy was very excited whispering to us. Oh i got somebody. I got someone on radio row. We got somebody we got our guest. Booker extraordinaire billy gill. Track someone down. It appears to be the only person on radio. This is part of the problem. Yes his name is jaren. May we were talking about the empty sad amphitheater that he is sitting in. I think i described the picture. Well jared thank you for joining us. And we'll see if we take a tour with you because we're outsiders now the syracuse Students station evidently is more. Welcome at the super bowl then. What used to be a pretty important radio show. That is now on the outside knocking on the glass door saying please let us in jaren. Please let us in. I think we're all welcome. Jared the only one that wentz so he's there in the sad amphitheater. Go ahead and explain. Is this the height of your dreams or is this wait a minute. I thought this was going to be a big deal. I'm covering the super bowl. I'm in college. This should be the height of the profession. Why am i profoundly sad. What have you done with my life. Well that's that's a good point Well here's the thing. I'm sitting in an empty room We have these glass kind of four table setup Spread out probably twenty feet between every single four table setup And there's probably about. I would say forty of these setups and not even half of them are are actually have people sitting at them So you can be at your station which my station is right over there. My guys are are actually live on the radio right. Now at w j p z up in syracuse and. I just walked over to another station because no one is here. So super quiet Not what i was expecting. However like you said i'm a student. I'm gonna take any opportunity that i have syracuse. University was very nice enough to be able to give this opportunity to five students including myself Newhouse sports really helped us with everything So i mean you don't say no to that if they're going to send you down there Any experience is better than no experience as junior. Hopefully i'll be able to go back next year. Which would be in so-fi out in california and get a real experience is well said but when you say any experience is better than no experience. I'm feeling like what you're having out there. Right now is no experience. Is there anybody who's being brought to you or you just sitting at a table. Are you being brought any guests. Are you guys just sitting at what feels like a banquet room table and just doing radio saying we're here at radio row and no one else's here it radio row and twenty tables from here. Someone can hear my echo on radio row. Yeah so we have. We had one live guest yesterday. None on monday. We have to for today. John leonard of the pewter report Bucks beat writer joined us just now in syracuse and gotten him i swear to you got it. Does today chris. You love to take the second. I got a couple of this Grimes former bucks player. Grammar depreciate it chris's now fallen off wrong jerry. You're out here hustling. You're trying to do your job. All was he was bored. Actual work at this. Don't let him make fun of you falling out of the screen. Because he doesn't like the your lead guest with some bucks writer and fair enough fair enough. Then the the big thing for us is we try to get in. Syracuse was super helpful and the alumni with syracuse are fantastic. But we did a lot of interviews via zoom that to your points could have been done at syracuse. We're not needed here. So we talked to John melt ski. Mellow mellow We're working on arthur. Jones maybe chandler jones is well a couple of former players And then andrew sicilian. Oh adam shine damon amend laura so so we are getting some good guests but it's all via zoom. Do not let them bring you down. What you're doing is great and what you you may not need to be there. Wittingham pointed out earlier. There's that buzz. It might be just the light pauses. That was when people hear that behind you while you're these people eight doesn't matter because everybody knows you're at radio row and where we not a radio rope right. They're already a leg up on us. Yeah i mean. I mean again. It's it's nothing normal. It's not the true nfl superbowl experienced but again. I'm gonna take anything if if i can is there. Food is like a slider that was smaller than my palm. You're good you're learning. Young fellow up they what it is to be in the media immediately. Start complaining about the free food. They are teaching them correctly at syracuse. Thank you thank you for being on with us jaren. We appreciate you being a good sport about the nonsense there. I'm sorry your first experience with the super bowl is such a sad one. If anyone walks through that's famous you want to book him for this. Show feel free okay. I got billy's number now okay. Karen the things behind you right now and that sad amphitheater. How many hundreds of yards or miles away from you is the closest thing that you're talking. I can't see anything except the wall. Men many yards seven three six. All right okay. So full my god. It's pretty. It's pretty shout right now. There's a radio guy right there. I wouldn't can you shout you. Shout the dan le batard show with totally rules rules radio row or something cooler screen for any of this. Yes i didn't i'll lick kennedy crash. My goodness i mean yeah it is. It is empty today. Specifically i think maybe fifteen radio radio stations. Are you alright jaren. Thank you for making us feel of a small small part of your sadness making us a little happier because we've been totally excluded from your non experience that you're gathering there in college. I'm not interviewing people. I mean thank you for having me on. Hopefully next year is better though. What do we have to tell people about where it is that you work so that they can find you for being a good sport. What is it that you need to promote here So w j. P z z. Eighty nine at syracuse university citrus. Tv as well. We're creating content. And of course new sports The entire department at new house in syracuse university. Greatly greatly helped us to to be able to get here and we appreciate all of their help. And if you want to give me a follow. Jaren underscore may add on twitter. There nice gym tonight. The fifty fifth big game is this weekend fifty five a game. This big deserves a big prize. Not just some trophy. Finish off the football season. 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Your money during sunday night's season finale only at draftking sportsbook must be twenty one or older new jersey. Indiana or colorado only restrictions apply see draftkings dot com slash prediction dash challenge dash. Dfs for details gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler or in indiana one eight hundred nine with it or in colorado one eight hundred five to forty seven hundred billy dee feel like it's more like super bowl week now. I heard you lamenting earlier. That it doesn't feel anything like super bowl week. You also had a great question billy. It was the question. I thought nobody was asking. I believe the the entire media i believe. The entire media is gathered in tampa for the first time that the tampa bay bucks are a team that is playing in a super bowl in their home city. It has never happened before. And billy had a question about the hotel rooms that i don't believe anyone else was asking Guess what happens to all the hotel rooms. The bucks were supposed to use. Because i'm a little bit worried about the hotel staff. Were probably missing out on a ton of tips right to they get a refund. Who books those is it the league who handles that right because each team is not booking hotels tampa saying. Hey we're gonna make it to the super bowl. So it's the league right is there cancellation policies. A lot of questions. They get a redefined. I mean the real question is what happens to those hotel the rare super bowl or one of the teams does it need a hotel. The only time. It's ever billy brought up a good point. I thought except during a pandemic i don't even know how coveted a ticket this is it. How many people are loud. it's florida. I don't know any of the details about what it is that i'm asking. I'm asking more questions than billy here. I think i saw that. There's twenty thousand fans and thirty thousand cutouts. I thought they were giving the. Nfl was giving tickets away to nurses doctors. People who've been dealing with this pandemic. I thought those were the only fans allowed in the building for the which is a very nice thing by the nfl. There are tickets available to the general. Public unstoppable right now the get in the door. Price is four thousand seven hundred sixty two dollars to get into the super bowl. Wow that sounds. That's down. I heard twelve thousand last week Billy made an excellent point in that last. This is the great. Billy made an excellent. You can hear radio row. That the the listener in their car listening to their favorite sports talk. Am radio station. Locally is familiar with the he doesn't even need to hear a promo or a guys talking about the game to know that they're radio row and that is certainly what this show is missing this week. So ladies and gentlemen. I provide you the oc. Now's go all right we bill. You did make a good point though. When you said i don't know if the buzzer round radio row was buzz or if it simply because one of the light bulbs in a cavernous room. That feels like something out of the shining one of the light. Bulbs is beginning to flicker and because that is what it felt like. The whole thing felt profoundly sad. That kid was a good sport about it but that sound. Can you imagine you've tried to arrive at the point in your life where you're covering the super bowl paid for by someone else that's dream come through stuff's to god sets when you were a young broadcaster coming up somebody's gonna pay for you to go to the super bowl. Yep you're in college syracuse. New house i mean everything's looking greats and now look at you. This is hurting my ears. Is anyone else feeling like their. Their face hurts because of the sound. This is not the sounds home. This is this is not what radio. Rose humphries like. I feel like you're grabbing me by the by the throat and shaking me with a single hand i mean it's it's usually a little bit more subtle than this bein. Amplifying so you know that the home will always be there for you. Dan feels like one of the only away. One of those things are results in you. Pooping yourself because it hits a note that you don't know about then poop note. Yeah i think. God's right it's the feeling of being pulled away it feels like a magnetic force is pulling us away from doing radio. Well i can almost see it from amir being dragged in the other direction far away from radio is done well. This hurt anyone else's brains getting cancer with this out. What are you going for their mike. Going around that no radio row is undulating sadness. Never more so than this year. How is it possible. That radio row bustling epicenter of ask crack. I've told you before. It's one of the saddest places per square foot. I've ever been in my life with activity. How is it possible that we just checked in on radio row sadder than the one that made me basically protest every year that we had to be anywhere about around it. We've gone to how many three of these we went to detroit. Jacksonville play the corporate game and to to do the thing where you talk up the big game we went to three of these total one of them in miami weeding. Go to detroit. I mean our show. You what a listener you refuse to go to detroit. He said he wouldn't go to detroit if we paid him. A billion dollars. Yeah you didn't go to detroit. You did go to jacksonville. Good on ya. You took detroit off. I believe the next one in the cycle might have been miami and you actually went to that right arrow. That was my first and only radio row. So i can back you up when you say the world's Epicenter of ass crack because my first experience with was just looking directly into the late. Ralphie maze asshole for about twelve straight hours as he sat in for an entire block of sports. Talk radio with a baltimore. Affiliate hold on. I need to hear more about this. I be more about the late ralphie. Mary's had this whole that is radio. Yes it is. It is radio row in every way. But i need. It's not it. Was it his whole ass or was it just as asshole. His ass crack seem to extend forever okay but that was true whether or not he was bent over right. He wasn't bent over. That was the most fascinating part about it. It was almost as if his ass crack began at his shoulder blades recipes. It's too soon all of that. You so you're saying it's almost as if i put it on the pole guillermo at lebatardshow almost as if ralphie maze ass cracks started at his shoulder blades. You shouldn't put it on the poll. Why not because he's dead giving doubt now decorum now decor his shoot. Wrestler power will more addresses. Put wresting power on the twitter pulse even makes it any better and you're only protecting him now because he's dead. You didn't mind making fun of the fat man when he was alive but all of a sudden he dies and now he can't have an ass crack that starts at his shoulder crack. Were you thinking about. Because i thought we were thinking the same asshole i never saw. Ralphie maze asshole really. You couldn't miss. I was easier to find the nfl network. Find it hard to believe that his asshole was was easy to find. I'm just gonna argue on behalf of the merits of it being well now but there was a straight line to it you could. You could piece it together. Anyone wanna help me here. It's radio read did it. Sounds like senator robert. Mays as you hate this i love. It's gus loves it. i are the movers. And shakers are. Oh god. I miss it so badly. We had so much han last year. of radio row is the status of an isdn line. As two people have a conversation. Twenty feet away from my lots of chatter in the background. Who i think. I can find us some ambien or hang on. Let's see if that hits the known. But in the meantime i'm with christie's early capturing christo. I believe that we have arrived in a place. Where chris cody is absolutely right when he applies his cynicism two major greed major commerce. The idea that the super bowl is weird year. They're not going to be able to profit. All of this is going to be a little bit odd having this spectacle of the super bowl. I don't know how the the nfl's going to make it feel as big as it always does. do big they. They do big better than anybody does. But this is gonna feel weird in hollowed out. That feels more like radio. Feels a little bit more. Like i'm thinking brady mahomes just being there kind of takes care of that well. This is the thing that chris was saying. Though you say that and chris says that the nfl is not even gonna test brady and mahomes this week for covid and if by some chance they do get covert. They're going to lie about it. They're going to deny it. They're going to just make sure that there's not a circumstance it can't be brady against any man it it just can't be just. The super bowl cannot be brady against henny. Absolutely do anything to get those two guys out there. It's a gray take by chris. I can't even name. Brady's backup. Paul albert put it on the poll. Guillermo terrible at lebatardshow name tampa. Bay's backup quarterback nanny. That's right person so right about that. There's simply no way those guys can test positive neither one of them. You ruin the sport. They're also to get emails on when they're going to get tested mahomes and brady just didn't get their emails. I don't know what happened either. They're going to test gabbard and henny and have them become positive on purpose. So brady mahomes never come out data. This right here is absolutely this right. Here is in the movie. 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Lots podcast what you miss on bloomberg tv and here's here to teach us business things we are not a business savvy show even though some of us around here pretend to be one of us in particular has been very strong over the course of the last week arguing on behalf of Amc and game game. Stop their green. On the dave boys green day squeezes come in the squeezes comes back. So here's the thing. Being squeezed are my balls. Joe you last week lost you know i was thinking back to what i said and i think it holds pretty. Well i you know. I said I can't alderney one for wanting to play the game but probably not lies to put life changing amounts of money in and now that it's trashed in. I think. I think. I think i said the responsible thing. So don't feel any shame a week later about how this alternate supposed to do with twelve hundred. Shares of nokia watt earnings report police. It's funny. how much difference a week makes because then suddenly everyone remembers. Here's an old cellphone flip company. Here's a movie theater chain where most of No one's going to move is and here's literally a store that sells physical video games. That wasn't quite the quite the vibe last week was it. Did you end up finding any of the details on that blockbuster stock that was still around like the anyone gave you a line. I tried so like i mean. Is it mentioned there. Is this like weird ticker this out. There does seem to represent the whenever we are holding. Company is still liquidating blockbuster as it. I tried by by trying. I mean i spent about three minutes. Googling and i couldn't find anything every time i put into ticker various names of it all. I found his references to the ticker itself. I don't know there's some company out there that still exists someone. Maybe a delaware the cayman islands. Technically having the right to blockbusters liquid. I could find nothing. Maybe i'll try again our report back if i ever discovered anything. Joe it seems like a month ago Had a squeaky clean reputation robin hood. Excuse me and here we are just you know a couple of weeks later. And they don't so what's going to happen here with robin hood with their ceo. How much trouble they in i mean. I don't think they're in trouble per se. There's going to be hearings in dc and those hearings aren't gonna gonna wear. I don't think there's going to be any legislation. I don't know the reputation hit isn't great. But i do think we're sort of at this moment. Where robin hood silicon valley and all these sort of west coast mindset. We're like oreo disrupt everything democratize finance whatever. This means there are rules when you're people's money like people who have money in an aspirin a they sort of have some expectations about the safety of the company. And i don't think so really is used to that idea you know. They're used to just like apps the share and there's no responsibility when you're holding people's money there are rules and there's no amount of like silicon valley gloss or growth hacking nick and get around them and they suddenly realized that there was kind of a limit to what they could offer. Robin hood is releasing a super bowl ad. So in real terms. What kind of damage did they do to their brand i. May i think it's real brand damage. But what else you know. I think. I think they'll be okay. There's like door were ever. These companies always get into trouble. How many times in the last ten years did facebook cam some scandal as i go. Everyone deleted facebook hashtag. Delete facebook and never happens hashtag. Delete uber and never happen. They'll i think they will be okay. But i do think that like you know they do sort of the wake up call for them that there are limits there in they put out this thing kind of blaming the architecture of how training works can get into it or not but in the end like they didn't have enough capital on hand to meet the rules and the system worked because they didn't collapse and it's lot better for their clients that they didn't end at these you. These curbs actually went into. What do you make of the morality of specifically first of all the irony taking from the rich and giving to the poor. They were doing the opposite by rule in a way that felt unethical. Felt immoral felt actually kind of illegal. But i guess isn't illegal. No i don't think it was. Look i mean you know the way to think about. It is basically robin. Hoods bankers gets word technical but the way to think about robin hedge bankers or like. You're doing some crazy stuff. They're buying game. Stop shares at four hundred dollars. A share price should be a twenty dollar stock and due to these formulas. Like you need to have more cash than they didn't have it so either. Get the cash right then which they had to raise ooh borrow or curb trading and they kind of did some of both i gilan people don't like it. I mean on the other hand non wants to hear it but probably a lot of people saved a lot of money because the system prevented the for by game. Seven hundred dollars a share which was really fun last week and i we were talking about it and we're having a good time and it was a really fun story but that was not a green investment and a lot of people were rowley. Say for making a terrible invest. I made that one. Because i bested somewhere else like an adult by the way and mark. Cuban did an ama and he said that. I should hold. Because it's on a loss if i don't actually just so i'm gonna do that and this should come up right games. Up should come up. There's going to be there was a little bit of a squeeze yesterday. Joe there was shot up to one twenty seven. We go hand up a little bit today. I'm just going to say one thing and about that. Mark cuban advice and a mark. Cuban made one of the great sales of all time. 'cause he sold broadcast dot com tiago and nineteen ninety nine and as soon as that Deal closed more or less went out and bought a hedge so that the price he spent to basically take the risk off the table at the time of massive bubble and prior lot of people thought everything was going higher and more cuban and nineteen ninety nine and the wherewithal to take chips off the table when everyone else was buying. So i'm just gonna say sometimes it pays not to have the diamond hands. Sometimes it pays to so. Can you tell us a little more that we don't understand perhaps about what just happened yesterday with amazon. And bezos. what did you think was interesting there or was there anything to you. Was it a surprising to you as it seemed to a lot of people. I certainly did not expect that to happen. I didn't see it coming at all but like you know he know amazon's been around like a quarter of a century. Now it is a long time in any job twenty five years or however long it is it was founded in the mid nineties. It's kinda it's a long time to be a ceo. I think like with most of these big tech companies were so used to associating the ceo with the company. We don't like you know. I don't know who the ceo like say. Alcohol is which makes aluminum or the seat. Y'all dow chemical is or any other company with these tech companies. They're so tied with their founder and ceo. That were not used to the idea of an amazon reason that running but he kinda still will be because he'll be the executive chairman so the new ceo. We'll have him as a boss. I research mostly about him. Getting to focus on the fun stuff and not having to deal with like say it had called up to a hearing at some point in twenty twenty one because one. Congress wanna like an antitrust hearing. There's a lot of prion doing aspects of the job. They deserved a break from that. I would assume that a lot of people would jump to the conclusion because he is interchanging that top spot on wealthiest man in the world with elon. Musk that they would assume well. What's the scandal. Is it because of the unionizing in his warehouses. Is it because there was the stealing money from drivers that they did over a couple of years because of the the damage that they're doing to the environment even as he pours money into trying to save the environment. I'll say two things. I mean i'm sure dealing with all of these scandals and investigations is not very fun. So that's one thing it's interesting you mention mas because they both have their own private space companies on the side. So musk has spacex. Bezos has blue origin. And i only sort of realized this. Because i was reading some of our own coverage today beeson started his own private space operation. Two years before must did. But it's way behind n- origin is not ler spacex is in terms of technology products profitability. Business has been pouring about a billion dollars a year of his own money into it. So when you talk about that rivalry with. Musk is now the richest Gone the world. You gotta wonder if part of it is just he wants to spend more time with those rockets is it. the is a real rivalry. I think he kind of is. I mean yeah. I think there's a handful of players in this private space raise and spacex has done phenomenally. Well and i don't think blue origin you know it should have had the head start is done as well and i'm sure these guys are just insanely hyper competitive and amazon. One iran is just. There's never been anything with. Its dominance that we could think of is making insane amounts of cash. Maybe there's a sense in which He wants to win in this other area where his company is a little bit behind as a business guy. Someone who cares about this stuff. Can you tell us what you find. Most interesting about the amazon story You know. I think like you know it's interesting. The new ceo is Obviously coming out of the aws which is cloud computing thing. And what i like you know. What's so amazing about that. Whole operation isn't just this idea that okay. They made it so that anyone can get access to servers. Computers of stuff at senator which is now how all businesses operate would they basically invented this idea of taking one of their own cost areas and turn it into a business like servers. Computers computing costs. This was a major source of amazon's own costs. It's on spending was on. Its own servers. And they're like well. We're spending all this money. Why don't we just get other people to pay for it as well and so it is kind of like a business revolution. This idea of finding an area that cost you a lot of money building it out and then actually turn a profit center and just off an insane amount of cash this year. I think it's gonna do just the computer. The cloud computing is gonna do like fifty billion annual runway mentioned on real and so not surprising that the guy who is one that business for a long time as the new. Ceo stugatz is saying though and has been saying taking victory laps for a long time about elon. Musk is a fraud. He's a fraud all he does. Just another another rocket blew up yesterday. This happens a lot now. He's a fraud. According to stugotz make rocket that works. I mean give me a car you know. I order a car. Have it delivered to my driveway on time. How about that. But now now he's the richest man in the world elon. Musk is so is that's right. Does he get to be right about this. I would never go on record with calling anyone of fraud for obvious reasons. But i will say like. In general. there is probably a thinner line between being an amazing amazing salesman and a fraud. And you could imagine a scenario. I mean like a couple of years ago. Things were looking pretty rough floor them. There are low on cash to his report. They tried to sell their a lot of people thought they were going bankrupt. Had they gone bankrupt or had they run out of money or been forced to sell in some fire sale. Then the reputation would have been out along. He was a fraud all the time they pulled through. And now you know. Sales seem to be going pretty well genius. We'll say you know. Like i will say there are probably many stories in american business life in which some small thing going one way or the other way. Is that determined whether someone ends up being characterizes. A fraud just like sports. It's just so close to being right now. I was right. Because i'm still waiting for him. To deliver on super tunnel from orlando to miami. That gets me there and thirteen minutes. That hasn't happened yet based fraud. But he's the richest man in the world Joe thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. We will just check in with you from time to time to talk about the uber rich. We'll do that yes thank you.

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The South Florida Morning Show hr 2 1-25-21

"The south florida morning show with jennifer. Ross in bill adams on newstalk eight fifty. Mtl revolt super bowl. Being able to go up against one of the greatest greatest quarterback of all time in his one hundred fiftieth super bowl little digging their from yellow punk s. Funny i love. He said it without even batting an eye though. They just went on during the fiftieth super bowl. How do you think he feels. I mean they just you think about it. Here's twenty five year old. Patrick mahomes the quarterback for the kansas city chiefs taking on arguably the best quarterback of all time. Tom brady. who's forty-three. When tom brady won his first super bowl. Patrick mahomes in kindergarten. So the odds are he's looked up brady all his life. Oh absolutely so. There's no down now you wanna sell your mentor. Played them before. Obviously they were used to and to going into this game and he said well you know i was happy with that. I would say that. I want to games against brady was a quarterback's don't play against each other. Now you've got this interesting and the nfl is the big winner here. Jen because it's just the way that it all worked out when brady went to an nfc and if c team now. You've got him on the biggest stage. The two premier quarterbacks playing each other. That's amazing i mean. Usually they got it a couple of years ago in the afc championship game but on the big stage. Wow is this better than a tampa bay. Buffalo game yeah. Yeah yeah that would have been buffalo's word. I wanted to see that though would have been buffalo's worst nightmare. They finally get brady avid division. They're going to be like a ghost. Cut us back to haunt you. Good for tapa. Though they get to host the the game there's gonna be twenty two thousand people in their thanks to governor rod disentis kind of increasing the totals. That's pretty cool. And how many six thousand of those tickets went to healthcare workers right seven thousand vaccinated so free. Yeah nice when they picked him probably anybody from tampa bay thou. I just saw post in and tell me if they were wrong that tampa bay this year. The baseball team. The football team and hockey team all went to the playoffs. Yeah they did In the lightning one. So that's a big. Could get two out of three championships. Look at that. I know you have a bay rays to the world series. Yeah that's right. yeah i i. I completely forgot about it. They didn't win the right. Everybody forgot about baseball. Okay don't worry about it but they won the pennant. Yeah i add some big deal. Let me ask you this because now we know. It's the bucks in their own home stadium. Even though super bowls and really home game would dishonest increase. The number of vaccinated healthcare workers like add an extra vaccinated. Right right at another five thousand. Would he do that could he push for that. It'd be nice. I could see him doing and he's got two weeks to work on it. You know it just to put our maze me the nine thousand people that were in the stadium tampa bay for the tampa bay game. They were really really loud. So you put twenty five thousand twenty six thousand. So at least there'd be a big crowd. Yeah you know i would. I would see the governor doing that. I would see him increasing it to thirty thousand. Actually see i'm. I'm all for this because i have a gripe year. My wife accident healthcare worker diener hot. Take because i want you to go. Where's where's where's my ticket to santa's on it's go you'd get one you get one go. Are you going to dress up in a wig. And pretend you're his navy. Yeah i think. I d it's me would you would. Brother has a buddy up in the ocala area. He's a firefighter and his wife is a nurse and they're both going. They both got tickets. I don't know how they got picked a lottery and must it must be right but if they're vaccinated right and that healthcare workers which is a feel good kind of thing. Why can't they increase it. A few thousand more. That's what i'm saying. Give us another shot to say at this on. Come on run. You always working on it. I told cristin check your email. Maybe a super bowl ticket in there. Who just don't know yet. One carolina will get one. My daughter will find out believable. Hey speaking of vaccinations turns out. The new biden plan is the exact same plan that we've had in the trump administration doom and gloom. You mean the exact same vaccination plan. There's nothing different on top of that. This is what he said. There will be a wave of fiction. Foreclosures in the coming months on as this pandemic rages on. Because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months. That's not what that's not what you ran on. It's not what you said. What did you just get in there. And all of a sudden you find the numbers no hundred million vaccines in one hundred days is problem now is they can't make that many so now he's already caught in a lie so he's made a promise that he can't keep however he does have the capabilities of calling up the governors of all these said states. And saying hey you know what. We're going to have a rash of fictions in foreclosure. You're gonna you're gonna kill the economy you can't do that. You got to prolong these. You know evicting people. You can't do it right so we'll see what happens. I know in florida in. i'm pretty sure. The governor extended our eviction notice. But it was somewhere along the line. They get a stop saying that. And then what happens. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of people are out on the streets because they can't afford rent or mortgage for no fault of their own in those. I thought it would stop a get ready. Forty and they're just gonna keep on blaming trump over this. They're going to keep on doing it. They're taking credit for the vaccine but blaming trump for the numbers. And it's and it's ridiculous but you're still gonna have half of the population. The these people live in kona they just listened to the fake news all the time following it and now you got fouled choose who saw. He's his egos backed by the way now that he's a star again. Oh love restricted. We don't have enough vaccine to go around. I've been saying this forever. I know you weren't no you weren't but we'll we'll see i mean they're getting the getting out the vaccines as quickly as they possibly can. Well well i mean they were. I hope to get it done. I really do but Old joe i know people the people that legitimately voted for joe biden. How much regret is there. Now it's like. Oh i thought this is going to be a different deal. Or they're just living the bubble and blame trump. i think they're just gonna blame trump because they're going to believe what joe biden's feeding them ano- hello jerry. Maybe you should have looked at numbers. Bill just said before you took office. Wow and stop telling people you're going to be there for him. Well go woke go broke or lose a prime time tv gig so it looks as though katie couric was like had it. Ninety nine point nine percent has the new jeopardy hosting gig but there's a big internally jeopardy. They were going to give it to permanently. Oh yeah no. She got it. I thought she was filling in new That may change well after her dumb comments. You mean this was on bill. Maher's dopey show and the question is how are we going to really almost deep program. These people who have signed up for the cult of trump the cult of trump's. I don't even think that was the worst of what she said. Because what lead that into the conversation was and it's they're fed this on the internet. There are people she's like you know the outrage there are people that actually believe. This wasn't a fair election as if you don't understand what they're doing with the mind programming now you dare just call for election integrity. You just want to see numbers. You want clarity transparency. you're insane. They're trying to paint everybody. That wants election transparency as insane so katie couric because of those ridiculous comments or hers. Jeopardy's looking at her saying to controversial. Apparently there are some jeopardy producers. Who say this is way way too divisive to go with her right now. We could lose ratings by the bushel. Oh the mole. They would. Because i well i. I'm not a big katy kirk fans. I wouldn't watch to begin with but throw in the fact that she says i need to be deprogrammed. Yeah watching anymore. That's half the country more than half the country. According to some polls that you're actually talking about deprogramming. Gee that doesn't sound like communist china at all and this is jeopardy jeopardy. Yeah they need to leave. Ken jennings in there. He's horrible. By the way. I actually watched it the awful. Yeah he's really really bad and granted. These new i understand. And he's never why they. I understand why they put them there. Put at least get somebody who got some tv experience. He's a really bad. i was like. Oh god it's like pulling teeth. Would you just cut to the chase and give it a john early already lease every all of america loves him. Oh there's so many other people to you can put in there. Besides katie corey. I know oh my goodness anyway. Thanks holy cow. It's almost rapid-fire time again at seven thirty karen and chime in. What's coming up. Wow with the sunrise the. Us coastguard can start looking again for this piper. Pa twenty-eight cherokee plane they believe crashed off the boynton beach inlet man they. It was last night at eight o'clock and they were unable to find anything. And but there's this witness. He was fishing. He said this. And then when we looked up we thought it was a drone or something and then all of a sudden we heard a loud boom and we saw the plane nosedive into the water. Who good seats four people. We don't know how many souls are on board if there was a plane that crashed but now that the fog is lifted and they can have the sun. The sun is up they can start looking again continuing their search and rescue mission. We'll keep you posted on that them. We're coming up during a garin very much. We'll see department they. Actually rapid fire is gonna turn into ten minutes of nfl. Talk could very confident. That and i'm fine with that. That's i think it'd be finally because there was a big deal. You know tom. Brady's gonna how many times to the super bowl his tenth appearance. How many times does he won six. I think he's actually at the point now and just watching brady for twenty years of my life. It's i think he's playing with zero pressure to. He's like if i lose them six and four years so which means that he played better of play. Real play great is what it is. Yeah but boy. The chiefs are good. This is gonna end by the way the chiefs already beat them in the season this year and a regular season game not that that matters now with no crowd but still no he. I think you're right. That believe was that was one of the best games of the year. Yeah so that's a it's going to be really really cool game the nfl action. Absolutely hit the jackpot. Because it's a terrible year ratings like really bad until the playoffs. They started to perk up a little bit. But this everybody's gonna watch this now. They got the premier match up in super bowl. They were able to get in the afc championship game a couple of years ago with these two but now in the super bowl boy do they like you. Get the greatest young quarterback and yeah just old quarterback. It's exactly it's and i still can't get over the fact that wouldn't brady won his first super bowl. That patrick mahomes was sixers. Olten the age discrepancy. It's almost what's forty three to twenty five. He could be his father. Oh absolutely pleased with a bunch of lunch. Plays against a bunch of people that he played with the play with their dads. That's the weirdest thing to me. Can you imagine that amazing That it really is amazing. Wow about that. So it's february seventh and tampa. We talked about this. we're speculating. Maybe we can put it into the universe and it happens. Let's get through the governor onto santa's because he's increased it to twenty two thousand in person which is good seven thousand of those will be vaccinated healthcare workers if they're vaccinated west. He adds another five thousand. That'd be great but if he adds another ten thousand that'd be amazing you know i you could. I forget i guess it was. Because i didn't watch the second game but they kept on making comments about how nine thousand people at the tampa bay game. We're getting a lot of noise. It least sounded like there. Were people there. Thank goodness oh in green bay. They were at the stadium so it looked good. Yeah what it's horrible when you look at the state like this little pocket of people. It's like these things are massive. I know you can let more people in. And i want you know just for the country i want more people at the super bowl so all these other leagues and events can see that it can take place because people can realize you can have concerts later on in the summer and you know. Baseball can have some people limited. How many people does raymond james state. We've been through this before. Seventy something like sixty five seventy round there. Yeah it's in. That area eighty no room for the boat. You gotta have room for the boat. Here's a boat and the come on. Now that's where they shoot the cannon from come on. I've never kidding me. No i'm not i don't watch football. They should be known form. Okay i'll have to watch. It is a big stadium. I've been there and they walk other players off the plank and they get eaten by sharks fantastic. No that's not really nice stadium though it is yeah that was there one for you to concert of all things i mean. It's it's like a pirate on the boat. No he wasn't but they did some weird thing about doing a song in space very strange. I don't understand how that worked But i i must have been there their whole stadium because i saw well was joe. Robbie stadium you. Yeah the routes right. yeah well. It wasn't bad news over the weekend. We lost larry. King and hank aaron larry king was absolutely. We're both legends. Obviously but by above soul. He did it all he really did he. Well he was. He was a legend here in miami and then ended up in washington dc while he was doing a talk. Show there on the radio. Cnn heard him. they hired him. He went to cnn from a number of years by the way he had also said in separate times on late night. Talk show hosts too that he wanted to be cryogenically frozen like ted williams his head. Yeah oh boy so i. I wonder if that's actually going to happen. Just larry's head right next to walt. Oh boy wow. Three of the ghosts in the haunted mansion. I don't wow. That's that's weird really. That's what he said. I i don't know if he's still believed that before his passing i don't know wasn't he also known as having many wives eight while they get. I take that back seven wives. He he got married time. He married one of them twice. He made the mistake of mary. One twice i hello. There's a reason you get divorced in the first place so might last a lot of those wives. You went through during a radio career. That's going to be even rougher. What did you guys make of Piers morgan's tweet actually it. It was an amazing. It was an amazing statement to make out was bitter but just to sit back and read and think about somebody. Sending that out into the universe was incredible. Is pretty wild. Go ahead go ahead deanery. It was it was hard to describe. It was a i. Don't have the entire thing in of me but basically what he said in kind of Some was me being larry king. We're really good friends. Until i took over for his show. And then basically saying that. Larry king hated him and said by watching his show was like watching. Your ex-wife drive your bentley over and and then piers. Morgan goes on to say and he had a lot of ex wives. He had with him so he was an expert in that area. But he's a great person in legitimate broadcaster. Little bitter they're beers it was Not sure what the right time for that to write it. Why just send it out there. And larry would have gone already agree with you know the brits they don't have the lots they speak their mind. Well you know what i bitch. A larry. king said horrible things about him face. probably and that's you know he was that all came back when he passed could been. You know who knows well. The fight against covert has taken a turn for the best. A group of dogs is getting ready to help miami heat fans your miami heat. Diener ten games okay. So when do they start. Is it like now starting this week. Okay so you walk into the arena and the dogs are there and if they jump on the or come around and sniff on whatever the case may be they don't let you in you're going to screen fans and american airlines yet. Really put it scarlet letter on ya. Yeah that's kind of bad out. The teams websites as people as well as their party will not be allowed in the area of the dogs do flag them and they say the dogs have like a ninety nine percent accuracy rate on. Okay now. here's the thing guys there by himself for some women's there by yourself. She ends up getting flagged. What about the people behind her. They're going to get pushed out to. They've been standing in line next to her for twenty minutes. I don't know if they go that far can they. and i. i don't know superspreader. The new protocols kickoff with about fifteen hundred fans on the twenty eighth the game against the clippers. I think it's a great step though is going with the dog screen. Yeah but it. I don't know. I would be concerned if i've been standing in line with somebody for thirty minutes. And the person in front of me gets flagged like great. I just did next year for thirty minutes. And you push him down the steps from them at all and then i'll let you in. Are you get it. I know it's i. I just think it's more like scour scarlet letter letter kind of thing. it would be nerve wracking. The wooden fuel came you know. Hopefully if maybe. I may syptomatic and i don't know i've been holding in a sneeze for five minutes and what does you get snow suggests in your pocket. Did you take the dog treats pocket. I forgot sh. Hey we got rapid fire news. It's coming up in five minutes. Stick over that. It's news our comments. The whole shebang. It's coming up the south florida morning. Show this bill seven thirty time. Virginia bills rapid fire with karen curtis on news. Talk eight fifty w. t. l. Welcome sports talk rapid fire. I have a feeling we're gonna talk a lot of sports. I am totally down with that. Are you big time all right. Hello boy tampa's be turned sports town about that. It's a good. It's always been a good sports town. It really has had to raise in the world. you had What's our hockey. might want. It all want it all and now you got tom brady and the bucks at the super bowl. At-home at ray j raymond j state. Okay one. i didn't know there was a bolton. So don't feel bad. She goes this a bolt here supposed. Yes yeah yeah. That's funny i. Guess buccaneers were pirates. You know i saw it. I saw it. I don't see that i thought. Why are you calling hard rock. Stadium the rock. Nobody says you take the pike to go to the rock bill. Maybe you play in the rock. For god's job so his trevor lawrence shouldn't go i in the Someone said that can't remember what stupid. Hopefully there wasn't ever been meyers. This is patrick. Mahomes a chance to repeat and get to do it against the best special and excited for the opportunity. What happened to his voice. I'm one hundred percent Gonna repeat one hundred and fifty percent tonight. Eat my broccoli. No but It's a commercial i saw. I don't know where we are right now. The odds of repeating are not good. No it's tough very tough but they can do it. The last team do go back to back for the pats. Did they voice. They did twenty four. They did it twice the do it twice. And who was their quarterback t. Fb feel mixed bag of emotions. For obvious reasons. You are not feel good for brady. Is fantastic. Ten all the brady haters. Where are you now. yeah well. He's the man the they're all Tampa bay fans before. Yeah maybe what i like. Is that stephen. Deaners wife is able to attend because she's in inoculated Healthcare worker diener will be at home alone watching by asking to get us onto the field at ray j. I mean you are the news. The sports director doesn't do much seventy five hundred vaccinated. Healthcare workers will veto. That's nice at bell on it. miami yeah exactly oman. Yeah he got us to the natty. What do you think about this. We were speculating. Last segment to santa's increased it to twenty two thousand stadium. They're all they're vaccinated. Healthcare workers right had another five or ten thousand. You think you'll push worth you mean vaccinated people. Yeah i think he threw allow and then fourteen. Let's get that to thirty thousand people right. you know. He wants it because then that proves that we can do it without being a superspreader and attracts more business. Wrestlemainia concerts would have right. We got seven thousand troops at the capitol and apparently they're super spreaders of but they do a fourteen thousand five hundred fans that have already bought tickets so that's good. They have to stay six feet apart in pods there. Whales or something at least those people. Yeah that's nice so if you're going to go to a basketball game at the aaa watch the heat. You're going to be sniffed by a dog good and this time for covert yes so. My question is if the person in front of you gets gets on by the dog and you've been standing behind this person for twenty minutes. Aren't you concerned. That's a good question or the time you're like ten feet apart your in line. Has anyone been to a miami not a couple of years. The dog flags. If you're out have you ever been through a tsa line with a dog. It's funny because they just we've right through and sniff and the on the door really quick and it's really really amazing. Go watch what happens afraid of dogs. So if you do have a dog ear. Yeah not going over basketball. The miami Us now is more than twenty five million cova cases about forty four hundred twenty thousand deaths but dr fauci says that if the united kingdom has a really deadly variant been circulating dominantly in the uk dokey anyway the boho their prime minister says it's indeed more deadly out. She just said by the way. We should all wear masks now. Okay well just say at the same time. Here's my answer. No other variant. Variant copious jude. Very big seen works on that they think it does have any idea you read about these long hollers in the crap they're going through their pupils are different sizes and they're like they've heart issues and mental cognitive problems and covid toes and all kinds of bad. I unnamed cova tomes coming up on rapid fire. Donald trump international airport not here clear landing time period fifty traffic and weather together. We do have a crash. New one in west palm community dr at military trail that rollover crash clearing up a boca federal highway spanish river boulevard tactics. Here's an alternate prudential. Dpd first alert weather have highs in the upper seventies to low eighties. Just a ten percent chance of rain today. And then our lows in the upper sixties with a cool down by thursday high. Just sixty nine. I love this weather. Currently seventy two degrees fog burning off factor rapid fire bill no matter the weather karen. Look good crispin. Sharpen that's where ozo- to aeko drycleaners will get it done for you featuring free pickup and delivery to great local company check it out ozo- to usa dot com factor. Rapid fire just wanted to update the coastguard still searching for a possible plane that crashed off the palm beach inlet. At eight o'clock last night it was a piper twenty eight And it could have carried four people on board. We don't know exactly comedy. People were onboard. Till keep you up to date on that. Meanwhile chuck schumer said this on friday. He's the senate majority leader make no mistake. There will be a trial trial ends. Senators will have to decide if they believe donald john. Donald john trump incited the erection insurrection. United states oh. He should've just let it go on keep going. He realized he said he went. He made a faces that was his first. Big statement is senate majority leader to a dope missing it of clinton but anyway the house impeach trump january thirteenth. I'm one one Inciting of deadly riot at the capitol. What a crock. When article of impeachment stimulus check everybody the extra fourteen bucks. They're working on. Yeah house re all the big cities going on. I do anything to stop antifa no riots. No it going after a guy. That's not even the president anymore. They wanna keep him out of public office forever. But i think that would be up to the voters not them. I don't know they're just despicable. But i do have a update update on the Was the stimulus checks. They're talking about delaying the impeachment sham until february eighth just with two weeks from today and in the meantime kind of pushing through this stimulus deal with the extra fourteen hundred dollars but they said they could hit a snag. You gotta love this. This could hit a snag. Still even though the senate democratic lead now because within the copay bill that fighting kind of pushed trying to push through is the raising of the minimum wage. All that to eighteen dollars so you actually have some democrats. Who don't want that lumped in the federal way. Yeah the federal minimum wage. A lot of people. Because they're already making the right timing. So that's that's where we're at so they're going to try to do that. First before this impeachment sham. But we'll see even gets done next week. I didn't think it was possible. The swamp got even swampy day. Yeah by the way Biden he signed an executive order to go ahead and move that forward but he also signed to repeal president trump's ban on transgender services the military. Because they won't get there yet and for Got rid of the ban on transgender sports. Too so the women's sports. How would that affected you as a young female runner looking for a scholarship. I this is just ridiculous by the pandemic. jin trump signed the executive order to lower. The cost of the epi pen finally fought big pharma right biden just resented that in a pandemic you just caved to big pharma and and the vaccine affects people who have allergies and antef lactic. Shock is a side effect even better for which will be now six hundred dollars anyway to vote people but the transgender thing. A lot of people i mean. Well those who want to be transgender end the military to get the reassignment surgery on the government for us to people. Well old wilpon international airport. He may be named after former president. Donald trump well it's possible it would be trump international but also got This state representative anthony sabatini. He wants he goes twenty seven to be renamed president donald j trump highway. That has a better shot of happening because it goes through many republican counties ryan. Yeah right palm beach. County is never going to say this to donald trump international airport. I maybe that's the airport in december. Apparently he asked for some paperwork saying if they could rename an aircraft carrier. Anyway hey baseball. Great and homerun king and i mean i'm not gonna say former henry hank aaron him yeah he. I interviewed him there. Right here the ballpark of the beaches as a health reporter. They had a first baseman. Who had vertigo. So he would see like three balls coming at him. That's not good hank. Catch it as exactly say hit the middle one vice president at the time of the braves right and he's he's like joe name at the same thing you'd asked your name. What's your name karen. He saw the need. Put your name in the sound bite. And then he signed an autograph for me and someone ripped it off from my cubicle at wpro. it's probably worth something. Now go back there and grab it back. I know so how was really cool. He's very very very nice. Man was just great when he played in this area where they hit a thousand. Gosh yes well. And i call him the homerun king because barry bonds beat him but barry bonds was on roy so i don't know nobody was soaked in steroids. God what do you think the idea of renaming. Because i saw this over the weekend. i'm like game. The atlanta braves atlanta hammer's in his honor. Because you know they're changing their name anyway. No no okay. Well oppose interesting. No answer in the indian names but anyway a lot of people started the radio careers right here in south florida miami. One of them was larry king remember him. Yeah he also passed away at the age of eighty seven and member on cool. Neil used to always have dropped because you're bald spot. Don't have a baltimore. We started out in radio and miami didn't have a lot of money and he always needed money but he started a. w. m. b. m. radio interview and my and you know what he never used i in his interviews which was interesting rose on larry king live any never read the book of someone who is on the he would just want to ask the question of what the viewer would be thinking. Larry did a lot of show. Prep you just showed up and finally. Have you seen bridgeton on netflix. It's one of those british shows right. You'll watch it closely. this is the music anyway. Looks like there's a little bit of The present leaking in there. There's like you could see. The yellow line painted down the middle of road and manhole covers. Sign up for a second season. One of the most watched shows on netflix. Or wherever it is yeah. Yeah yeah and then katy kirk might get dumped off of guest hosting jeopardy because she said that stupid stuff about deprogramming cultists trump people. She might lose the permanent gig because apparently it leaked out that they were gonna give it to her and now that's in jeopardy. What is an idiot anyway. That wraps rapid fire you guys. What great radio coming up next. The super bowl matchup is set. We'll talk about. That's coming up here in a little bit and More on by the way that katy core story about losing the jeopardy gig. Wow apparently there are a lot of producers of that show upset with our and rightfully so rightfully so got that more coming up next the flow to morning show. There's gina bill. Keep it here. Thirty eight buffalo twenty four have to check the scoreboard. Who was that guy. Yeah it's gonna be great. They just put out the they get the city chiefs right now favored at what three and a half should be more than i think. It's three and a half which is about right. it really is well over. the bucks are home. it's not really home. it's super bowl is never really home. Even though they get to play in tampa which is cool. That's really cool. You don't have to travel. That's a good thing. That's because tom brady also yelled into the cameras. He was leaving the field. Where coming home. Yeah that's right so it's like okay so I boarded the nfl lookout out there. The big winner in this entire thing because they get a got brady mahomes two years ago when the pats beat him in the afc championship game. Which is one thing but then kick that up a notch in the super bowl and the big stage does it does the ginger devil. Oh show up at the super bowl is going to be there. It'll be there. Oh yeah. Roger goodell glory. Yeah okay right. He's an idiot it's But they didn't mean to bring it down. I'm sorry getting back to the football game. How many people are gonna go. Twenty thousand is that they're at twenty two thousand now and we're trying to petition governor onto san. Let's boost that up to thirty come. On seven thousand vaccinated healthcare workers. Right right the let in more vaccinated. Healthcare workers have no risk right. Yeah that's pretty cool. I think he should. I am sure he would want to is there. Is there anybody on the nfl. That would stop him. Do they have priority over the how many people go to a stadium over the governor. No but that's a good point. You know who might raise a stink over that of these corporations. The advertisers usually a super bowl game is it's at least at least eighty percent corporate sponsors in the crowd. That's why people always say is it's usually a neutral crowd. They my raises stink if they actually allow more healthcare workers in non corporate people right because they could say you could sold another corporation. everybody. I've known that's ever gone to a super bowl work for a beer company or of beverage comp right exactly it's not like they just bought a ticket right it's because they're usually so ridic- even when there's a regular season in you can fit eight thousand people in the stadium tickets like the cheap ones like fifteen hundred bucks a piece it's absurd. Oh it's even more now. Maybe you asked that question last hour. Yeah first of all. I can't believe that there are actually tickets for sale. That's i i'm shocked that it's not taking up already with only twenty two thousand They are thc with less people in in house. Okay and this kind of demand. Guess what ticketmaster is selling them for five thousand eighteen thousand dollars east. Come on and if you wanna by at least four you can get in for less than ten grand. Each that's absurd. Oh so then. It's it's it's the ultra rich ultra rich. They get to go. Oh absolutely that's nuts and that's sad because you know what it's supposed to be the sport for the american people and and no one can afford to go. Well you can watch it on tv. I'd rather watch it on tv. I think it's it's a tv. show you now. i. I've been to the rose bowl before when ohio state played there and it's amazing how much you miss because you don't get to see the replays you don't get to see the small motion you don't get to see anything you know at home you get front row seats you get to see everything. Yeah i mean granted. You don't get the experience. I understand that but still you get to see a lot. More of the game itself. It is better on tv. Yeah you really is so get this though. The nfl might have one cause for concern as super bowl may have some giant advertisers pulling out why startling number including Apparently is our bush's cutting back and coca cola. Might be out bradley. They say there's no messaging that can actually get through without offending somebody these days so i thought it was because a covert and they didn't want to spend the money that could be too. Maybe that's the reason why. Yeah but i would think. They weren't affected the beverage companies because people were still buying beverages. They were still home. I would think they've actually drinking. Would've gone up. Yeah but look what's gone through for the past like let's say like three years it's been really bad with the social justice messaging super bowl commercials member. We were there was like infected with them. Why couldn't stand any of the commercials. They talk to their ad. Offseason people have had with that. You know the whole goal woke go broke deal so that just staying away from it good. wow well. maybe. It's a good thing for advertising in general but i i always look forward to the the budweiser commercials with the horses or the puppy. You know they always have that dog now. But that's i'm sure somewhere along the line we'll get to see new commercials but that's interesting but doesn't the nfl takes a hit on that right. Yeah exactly Toco kit for them. Maybe the chain of mine down the end some swampy kinda news but in a different state. She's back sarah huckabee sanders. The former press secretary for trump. Going to run for governor of arkansas. Just like her dad. Wow look at that. I wonder is the huckabee family. Still loved in arkansas. I think so. Because i made her father was governor for a while. Mike huckabee's awesome too. Yeah he was easy. Yeah he's just an and. I think you know everyone likes sarah. Sanders could be sarah huckabee sanders. Sorry i just. Because she's so feisty she was great as the press secretary as like okay a lot of know her because of that right whereas before i would think half of arkansas wouldn't know who the heck she is So i she may have an advantage. There does who she running against us and it's a good question. Mike huckabee like you mentioned. He was arkansas governor for almost a decade. yeah he was longtime. Ooh so i mean if you go by the name if it's like the kennedy name was in massachusetts. She's a sure win. It's huckabee or clinton in arkansas. It's right one or the other. Wow that is interesting. I tell you what though the battle is going to the states. You see this you hear about you. Know trump advisers talking about him concentrating on State house and senate races and election integrity. Now she's running for governor i. This is where they're gonna win it if the gop has a chance or trump whatever his plans are it's going to be at the state level. Well speaking of which and running for office. There is a big rumor this morning and whether or not it's true that avant could trump's gonna take on marco rubio and next election. It's gonna be a tough sell to win a really bad idea. Well column especially now is probably listening mr president. If you're listening tell you daughter wait. I don't see that happening. I really don't i what i could see. Lara trump in in north carolina. I guess that is going to happen. Yeah they said she is she running for the senate. I think it is a senate. Yeah okay well it it for people who didn't know who they were before everybody knows who they are now right to the the they got over the past four years whether good or bad. I'm surprised Don jr. isn't running for something to be honest again bad idea. It's just they can do so much. More outside of the swamp is so much. Have him run the media you conglomerate that we all know is coming Still waiting for it. And i know maybe just going to open up a bunch of golf courses like the president's done since he's been office they just got out of the white house would you want trump. Tv networks already. Figured you tie already owned by now. If you're buying cnn just to get the ultimate later cnn who knows they're going to call it trump news network in could be who the heck knows. I don't know lot of controversy over this. Karen had a little bit in the story jeopardy. Ken jennings feelings not good. He's not you know what he was a great contestant he's a horrible host he is taking a guy that's he's a scholar he's not a tv. Host is not good now as he looks very uncomfortable. and it's it's very So read the reportedly katie couric has the job. It's going to be her see. I didn't realize that until this happened on bill maher last week where she said this and the question is how are we going to really almost program these people who have signed up for the cult of trump own my of trump. Thank you katie. Do you wanna d program more than half the country. Yeah okay well. that's not scary at all. thank you so now. This story coming from the new york post and fox. News jeopardy producers reportedly very concerned about her controversial comments. The majority of what you're saying. Now she should not get this job. I don't know what they look for somebody who's kind of middle of the road who wasn't going to waves anywhere that comments. You made a lot of see you look at it this way before million people already to show. Oh do you take that chances. After you lose a beloved get you. Don't you're not you're gonna put somebody in there. That people like people loved alex. Trebek's watch all the katie couric categories. Would be trump. Lied about this that it'd be it'd be trump. Hate all the time right. Wow i i'm not. I'm not a fan of katie couric. So i know offense i. I'm i'm not rooting for her to get that job permanently. Are you a fan of this. What would you like to talk to your dead relatives in your house. I do all the time. 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And Then There Were Two

The Nat Coombs Show

54:59 min | 5 months ago

And Then There Were Two

"Hello and welcome to the show on. Espn in association with fred. Good tabby with us gang soap. We know super bowl. Fifty five is locked and loaded brady mahomes tampa bay. Kansas city chiefs. The greatest of all time buses that champs. Wow can't wait to break that down and that's what we're going to be doing over the next couple of weeks getting set for the big game but the four all that. Let's take a look at how they got that that championship sunday didn't disappoint and neither will iron mike on my tub to get into we're going to start with a green bay tampa bay game and first things first. I don't want to hear all this love. Brady brady brady. That oughta here's some love letter for that theory. If you don't win the super bowl right now has a significant part to play in that game as well. He's a lot one of those america's game seats a look. You know he started out so good you know and he was really running hard to pass and i. I think tweeted something. This is the leonard fournette. We remember from jacksonville. Although i also did tweet on that touchdown run where he had that. Great spin off the line. And the line of scrimmage. That's what he does best. His problem in jacksonville said he tried. They weren't that good upfront. He tried to do it all the time. And you can't run into the line on a play designed to go up the middle and always break it off to the outside on that point. Did you see the we love you. That percentage stats or probabilities. Point four percent or whatever. Yeah delighted scrimmage wrote a road a road but that was that's what he does really. Well you know he doesn't really want to be an up the middle three yards at a time guy. He's he's more like a le'veon bell but you know but with a quicker cut and better and then of course as soon as i tweet that he drops to passes. I'm thinking what am i. Troy aikman semi say something. It's going to be proved wrong and the next minute by calling on the show last week on the show i locked in green bay for the super bowl. So she would. You'll get a jump. Looks at this is obviously all about all about brady heading to his ten super bowl. You'd never really bought into that criticism that has plagued brady threw his career you know. He's a quarterback term alignment there any quarterback would have had this kinda ron in this patriots with his pages dynasty. But surely my these wrong with tampa bay shuts up. Although sater's you deep into that it should do and the point. I used to make a bachelors. That brady was assistant quarterback. What made him so great was he could adjust to any system. Eleven different systems which the patriots was often week by week but certainly season by season. You know when they when they needed to run the ball and having protected when they add corey dillon or antoine smith. That's what he did when they add randy moss. He was downfield. Passer fifty touchdowns. When they didn't have randy moss he became a kind of dick dink and dunk guy with will with well occurred element. whom scotty miller reminds troy aikman. I wonder why bites. Brad about cousin. Greg tweet because greg rosenthal scotty miller he does go and we were saying how every commentator across the board eddie time scotty miller does something scotty miller and emphasizes his name. Thirty four percent higher than any other plans. It rolls off the tongue. And i think troy said reminds me of all those guys brady used to throw to and i immediately tweeted out like the branch. How sticky said last night. Six hundred a lot. I think i should be put back on on television or radio by public demand simply to keep me. Keep me off. 'cause i can't do both at the same time. And then when when miller got the touchdown aikman said boy. He's got unexpected speed. I said oh you mean he's sneaky fast. The guy clocked four three seven at the combine. You know it's like you know you should know he's got to speed anyway. Bantu brady You know. I think what happens with this team is that I said this at the beginning of the year. He was joining a team with a really strong defense. That that was a better team than seventy nine but they the problem was that for every touchdown james threw. We threw an interception and tom. Brady's main job was to avoid turning the ball over and that's exactly what he did You know he. He has the targets to go to. He's going to hit a lot of big plays I think in this game you saw that. He sort of looks. Mike evans the way. He looked at randy moss. Right mike evans has not been healthy. All season. this year was the first time i saw him go downfield in a long time and but even on us right point the going downfield and it's not just the detractors for much of his career but for much of this season as well i remember midway through the season. We were hearing so much. Criticism of brady doesn't have the deep ball. Brady's misfiring on the deepal and he looks at all said and done the regular season throw in the playoff games as well. He's being super effective in that respect he he does tend to put air under the deep ball now which he's trying to place it in more than more than kind of germany but his is mid range throws his his sideline routes are all zipped. And that's the more important point of having arm strength this being able to zip those throws the that might be that might be intercepted so you know. I thought the first half apart from the plate to goodwin that he made a fantastic move to catch when savage should have had an interception s to a minute after troy aikman said goodman as bad lack of confidence in series of drops. Apart from that one throw it. He is first half was brilliant. And again the touchdown pass to goodwin to miller. He laid that up. You know i. It was not zipped past. It was a perfectly time pass waited for familiar to run into it and in the second half you started to see he was putting too much on the on the ball it was it was going high going and then when he tried when he was under pressure and tried to put a ball up to make a play they got intercepted but going back to your original point not on brady For two weeks tampa's defense has put him in a good position to win games and they are going back going back to your original point. That game was lost by green bay more than one tampa right right. Well let's talk. Let's join those lost two points together then because jp and akbar or wreaking havoc on this line that has been out for much of the nobody knows in the in the encounter in the regular season between these two and of course. That was something that were interesting. Take your take on. How packers allowed that to happen again. But just even week-on-week. The rams didn't sack iron rods. That one hit on him. And i know donald was banged up but nevertheless it was completely contrasting performance from the offensive line. How do how are they able to this line. So it's a really good point and the key to that was simply speed. Jp and shack barrett. And because what you saw was they were beating their man but they weren't beating them getting directly to brady. They were beating him and then coming off the block and chasing brady. Sorry rogers gers down Before he could get you know get anything done or pressuring while he was trying to get something done and to me on that key. Play of the game. Probably the third down and goal from the just before the two minute warning the game. Lots of us said rodgers could have run. Yep you know. And i've been looking at it and i think that what was going through his head was shaped was the guy who was chasing him and he was afraid he was going to run down from behind and of course then they lose the two minute warning. If he gets tackled in play. I was thinking. I said at the time i tweeted it out. I don't know if he would have got a touchdown. But i if he goes out of bounds at the two or three yard line its fourth and goal from the two or three to basically make the same play twice. They have to get the touchdown in the two point conversion but when you go through all the different scenarios if they don't make it what happens the bucks get the ball you have to stop them in punt if they punt the ball indecent right right if if they make the touchdown but not the two point conversion you have to stop them and get the ball back but all you have to do is kick a field goal If if you make both it's tie game and you're starting over but by doing what they did. They now have to stop the box. Get the ball back in bad field position and score a touchdown. It didn't make sense sedated logically. There was only one good outcome out of four possible once. Yeah it's to take that especially when your quarterback aaron rodgers at that point of the game. Who do you trust more. Aaron rodgers mike pence defense. It's a great point you make i was. I was watching that as you suggested. Everyone was asking why roger isn't running. There's a play the down the same drive as well. I think we see the playwright before. It's all over the first. But he had two shots at the running to the right to the end zone and didn't take any and we forget. I guess in this point. I think that the guy has made on comes in the age of mahomes shawn watson around rojas reticent speaking right so that was that was baffling. And that's a really interesting point. You make as to why he didn't make that. He had that great raw touchdown the week before but that was on a guy in front of him and i think like i said i think what he was feeling was was the pressure from behind. He was frayed. He was going to get run down from behind. Which is the one thing you can't control when you when you are running the ball and you know why he forced it to davante adams you know you. You can argue these various things. I thought there might have been different. Play coin. I really wonder why. Aj dylan was not in the lineup. Aiko line so not used a hobby was halley's greg i was gonna ask you how significant you thought of. Our jones was very midway through the game. Essentially he's completely out. Was that a major factor. It's a significant one especially. Because they they gave most daryl williams did a great job. You know most of most of the time. But you really think could've used that two hundred forty five pounds of aj dylan at least once to goldline sequences and it was like like munster against lead. Stir which. I was watching on saturday where they stopped him twice at the goal line. And that's basically what what the bucks did to the packers you know on and when you come away with you got three interceptions and you come away with six points in the second half and you settle for feel the You know i. It's it's it's just not good. I mean it's really hard to to come from behind against the. Tom brady team When when when that your baseline and i also thought one of the penalty calls. That i thought should be as on the first. Aaron jones fumble. I thought it was a helmet-to-helmet hit and pretty clearly. So but nobody else at least in commentary or word jeans territory or whatever for my whoever it was seemed seem to notice walks command center. I i wanna get into penalties. Because the inconsistency of the issue of penalties favorite subjects and with surrounding kevin king before we talk about that the coal when he was covering toddler which essentially iced the game right which was a bad cool. Ask you about king. Because he's getting a lot of and i to get your take on what you thought of his health. Because i was doing the cup. Final sky in the news so i was driving back in in the snow up the m one so i was listening to the first quarter on the radio and he was kevin. Harlan on comes and early on he referenced. Kings back injury right and we saw the mistimed jump on evans for the for the first score and a looked back at it this morning. What is weak is being injury. He missed a lot of practice. He was questionable for much of the week so he he was clearly to me. Banged up did you think that was what explain how he completely miscalculated that coverage evans. Do you think you can ascribe that. To the fact that it is backed back was done. It just seems it's it's interesting because you know when you watch it he. He just missed. He miss times the ball. He's six foot three. You know he's a big. He's a big corner And evans beat him and brady again has waited that long ball perfectly really to get up pie and let trump and make a play for it and king was was got himself back into position to be able to make a play on the ball. But you just couldn't reach it. Whether if his back you know held them back. That might be the case. But i think more to the point was the fact that he he got turned around on that play so that he was always playing. Catch up with evans. And you have him on. Evans because you want big man on big man if you wanted your best corn evan. She'd put john alexander there and You know. I think maybe they could have tried that. But i don't think they wanted king exposed to the quicker guys targeted king. Someone make the resume made the point this morning that well why didn't they when they saw tampa bit ruthlessly picky on and why didn't they flip desire exonerated and you understand the coolest wild zonta place the side that he does the same with it. The german does right but if they had fled to than they would have just gone. The other rerun fire remember. They did flip him. The first time the teams met and and alexander stayed on on on evans. I i don't know why they did and i. I'm not sure what the what the good reason would be. Except that i think you want kenny king on goodwin. Because he's so much quicker and the exactly that so many different weapons around that show it might take threat you know had been playing. It would have been even tougher cool then. Aaron rogers says it was a bad co. we had to sail to the game which we'll talk about as well. What did he think the bad calling the sense that they hadn't called it all game and what you want from referees. Consistency was it. Egregious was only agreed in the sense that you saw the jersey. Come back how much that held him back. I don't know real it's a call. It's a good cause. I mean it's the right call. In normal circumstances that gets called every time and players know it. you know. it's hard to get away. You can get away with much worse than a jersey. Grab because the jersey grab is is obvious and visible. That's the one you get flagged for so yes. It's the right call but in the tenor of the game in a game where the penalties in the i guess the euro credit you could see. There was one moment where you could see as a play was being. They made the wrong call and reversed it and you could see a clean break man whose job is not with the brakes blatant is real name but but you can see him on the thing and i was convinced that that was new york saying it's time to start throwing the flag now interesting. I was absolutely convinced that and they corrected the the wrong call And that was fine and then the flags did start to come a little just to dribble a drizzle of them but my point is like just on that. I just interested because he something. You've you've talked about over the years. The the maddening inconsistency. But looking at it another way if you let's take a complete come out the nfl football right. You'll see certain who rugby to allow x number and stay that your limit and then i'm gonna call it. Does that kind of thing ever happening in the nfl where it's clear to the players that it isn't actually then being consistent. I know i know of referees. Who will tell a player. Don't do that again or you're lining up in the neutral zone. Get back you know. Stop lining up in the neutral zone. Where you're moving just before the snap if you do it again. You know there are referees. We'll give that kind of warning which is good. Because that's what you should do. I don't know if they have a set limit. That would be up to the raff. Obviously not to the other officials and it's not you know and and the the other official will throw has to throw the flag without consulting the referee. I so i'm not quite sure how how that works. But everybody wants consistency from the referees. In every sport it's all you can ask for if you know if you don't want umpires got a high strike zone and he calls it that way. The game you can live with it lobbies very much the same way and all of a sudden make make a call. Nobody's going to like but my bigger point pass. Interference is that and we heard it in the commentary a lot of hand fighting going on but it was pretty equal. You know or yo you gotta let the guys play the problem with that. Is that in pass. Catching one guy has to use two hands to catch the ball and the other guy doesn't and fighting is not a fifty fifty equal thing hand. Fighting is removing from the receiver. The one tool. He has to do what he's supposed to do and defensive back doesn't have to worry about that and that drives me crazy because that's what the original pass interference rule was designed to stop because in my day. When i was a kid growing up you could hit the guy all the way down the field but you hit them unit. You couldn't grab him. You couldn't grab his hand you can slap them but you could hit him as much as you want. You can put your shoulder into twenty yards down to the field up to the moment. The ball went in the air right right. What do you think mike. Von looking at changing the rules in the future with regards to his challenges so not specifically this one but we can use this as an example can flip and when there has been a flagrant foul. That hasn't been called. You think that the nfl should be looking enabling coaches to get some video replay on a that. They feel wrong. Yeah i mean it was interesting to hear mike. Pereira described what what plays could be overturned without a challenge or without the specific thing that we're looking for if they see another foul on the play a very limited number of those like twelve men on the field which which guy on review. I think it opens the door. The every play challenge kind of opens the door too much To what to a game that slows down. I mean obviously you can put a limit on it. Well right exactly but come. I would rather see though. The present limit maintained maybe expand the place that are challengeable. Who's rather than make just any any play I'm not a huge challenge fan. Anyway because i think what we've gone down to now is minutiae and trying to parse the rules. That small makes the rules less effective at doing what they what they are designed to do and i know we all want to get it right but you know i can live with a certain amount of borderline on. Rightness incorrectness You know if we have to I it's it's terrible area because whenever you look at the rules you then have to consider the interpretation of the rules that the referees are instructed to for example the word football move does not exist in the nfl's rulebook interpretation that the referees are given to try to decide how to apply this often contradictory ram bigamous kind of wording in what is in the isn't a catch and we see that almost every week in the league how you know in in one game a guy catches the ball. Turns around you know brings the ball down. Turns around gets hit immediately. And it's an incomplete pass. Because he hasn't made a footba move is if turning around is not a football move. It drives me crazy. Get off my lawn. i'm getting old. I'm with you. But i with you on this Religious postgame comments wanna get into naturally plenty of interesting things. He said most notably getting all the headlines. A lot of guys futures certain myself included so mike is not just a raw reaction to the law. So do you think there deeper roots than that. I think it's probably a raw reaction If you believe that the biggest factor in green bay's repeating a thirteen in three season or a fourteen four season is as it turns out is that they drafted jordan love and rodgers played. If he had something to prove then maybe maybe he decided he would prove it and get out of town or get out of dodge. Do you would say philadelphia. That was a character we know is called. Made my mind up about this one on that. I think it's it's pretty trite to say. Well that's what's that's why we're seeing this performance. From one of the great quarterbacks ever played the game the flip side of that is is quite moody you demonstrably that kind of mindset is it kind of adds up. I think you know i. I don't know the dynamic between he and matt leflore. And i'm sure he was disappointed to see. The fleur kicked the field goal. He said he was right. He said it was cool. And you know and and the re he's got very good reason to be but he's had to such good seasons with lefleur. I think. I think if i were rogers in someone were to come to me and say look what you know. What are you talking about what you need to make you happy. He might say an offensive lineman and a receiver remember they. It was billy turner tackle in that game and He didn't play badly but it was a lot to ask of him. You know to to deal with the speed of of the temple of the tampa rush right. And that's what i you know. He said okay last year. You've got yourself your quarterback of the future this year. Get me someone else. I can work with tom. brady they. Add they add gronk and antonio brown. You know do something like that for me you know. Imagine if they put aaron rodgers malan robinson on that team right right you have alan robinson. One side davante adams on the other side and the other guys become third receivers. You know who he can depend on it. They're they're so tantalizing lazard and and the ass you know lazard had a good game. Mvs made some place. But you just can't. They're not consistent enough and they haven't been since they came in the league which is why they came into the league's bargain as bargain draft. And then someone says. I'm a tweet out with a quantity of saint brown s me. What's he the patron saint of the patron saint of drops harsh but fat. I might cost so the the bucks roll into the super bowl home field super bowl. Of course another play. The champs the kansas city chiefs getting it done against the bills the usual suspects an headlines again homes of course injuries didn't seem to affect him a toll mojos mahomes on the road as you would say i've been trying to figure out whether there's a home field advantage for tampa right because i mean in the super bowl. There's never the big home field crowd that there would be normally. Although season ticket holders do there is a presence for them yes super bowl game and of course with cova does not going to be presumably this the big crowd that you would you would expect anyway on the nfl. Haven't they announced they're going to be filling it with seven seven thousand five hundred or something. I don't know what the giving ticket. He's getting tickets a frontline online yet. You know we've twice before you've had teams play in their own cities who the rams seventy nine super bowl fourteen. And then the forty niners in super bowl. Nineteen the rams played at at the coliseum on a usc. The super bowl was at the rose. Bowl in pasadena. The forty niners played at candlestick park. The rosebowl was at stanford and palo alto. The forty niners. Training facility was actually only six miles away from that stadium. Not their own stadium and that stadium is closer to where it to san francisco then santa clara where they play now for so but but to me. The interesting thing was you gain home. Field managed to your player. Stay at home during the drive the two weeks or do you do what i would expect them to do. And i tried. I looked up. I was trying to find what happened in those two games. I would expect. They put them in a hotel for at least the week before the game and isolate them from their own families. There isn't the super bowl hubbub that they're normally is around them. But i suspect that they will want that full-time attention that you would get in in a super bowl week. It's and i think that's an interesting question i'd love to you. Know to get someone. Ask the coaches. what the what. The plan is on that And does home field make that much because normally during a week the ability of not soliven and live at home and and do your normal weekly commute into work. Each day for practice is a-plus because it's your normal routine and you get the extra the extra time super bowls are a different thing. Yeah and it's a fascinating question because you know you and i've done plenty. We often as the bigger they get as well. You're right this year is going to be different in that respect which that's a different leads this but it a normal situation not a typical super environment that that's even more because they're getting bigger and bigger and brasher brasher every year and the question we always ask is every play against us. This is distracting. You enjoying it. And it's a mixed bag. Some of them thrive on the energy. Some of some of the distraction of that others it can become or consuming and really affect their build up to a game. Someone was talking the other day. Think you might be ozone the america's game chiefs was rewatching that. Because i was pining for miami kabul was watching kelsey on talk about jimmy johnson and spoke to the plays and read it. Nothing the thursday before the game and said if you take a ten foot beam put on the ground every nfl players. Just walk across it right but if you take even put it in the air a lot of people wouldn't he said that's the super bowl. Don't look at it as though it's thirty foot the area to work cross treated like any other which of course as well. We have quite the allergy. Thought tom brady could walk across at thirty feet. As long as it wasn't deprived type right as long as he got a good night's sleep so he he's a really interesting question you raisin and hopefully some of that into the bills game. Same line i guess. is with the tampa bay d. The the offensive stars of the chiefs will Reasonably get credit but it was the chiefs team that needs to get a huge amount here because those bills start respective bills stars were kept in check for much of the game. Yeah and you know we. I don't know if i talked about with you. But but before the game the thing was the bills have not been running the ball very well. Zack moss is out. Obviously but they're lying is is not as good a run blocking line as it is a pass pass blocking line and i really thought they needed to run allen a bit more in this game then than he had been running in the weeks before because they ran they ran the the danger of becoming pittsburgh. Where you they're going to try to replace the running game with a lot of short passes and alan. That's not allen's game. It shouldn't be allen's game what. Kansas city was really interesting because spagnolo brooke pressure from the outside with bet defensive backs and if you remember one of them to me one of the key matchups to the super bowl is going to be spagnolo against brady again because right seven that was you know. His game plan was to bring pressure up the middle on brady so he couldn't step forward in the pocket that bring it from outside when you do that to brady. He recognizes it more often than not and knows what the secondary is going to do to adjust to losing one of the one of their members to the pass rush and that's why he burns teams a lot. But i think spagnolo was counting on the fact. That josh allen wouldn't necessarily react so quickly And the rushers in the first half especially. We're coming when they did it. They weren't being blocked. They added tremendous success the first two times they did especially sneed habits. Seven and alan tries to run out of the sack so sneed at that like seventeen yard that loss for our first one. Yeah so. I thought that was. That was really interesting. And i thought the kansas city secondary played very well Sneed is a great. Find which i said before the season I'm happy to announce bruins playing excellent. Of course matthew is is a danger in there. You know our players know that you know there was. There was a play along the sideline where There was a drop because singletary looked for matthew. He knew matthew is coming and he took his eye off the ball for just a second to look for him so that that gives them a certain amount of flexibility which which helps to make up for the fact that the linebacker group isn't that good Especially when it comes to pass coverage there they just don't have the hitchens made it a couple of plays but but beyond that they don't have the quickness toco all the way around and then get anti tons of credit for the game plan against the bills because they knew what the bills were going to. Do you know play zone. Keep it in front of them. Try to cut off. The big plays and they generated plays underneath that zone. Yeah right per the same planet in the first game but the cheese was i went off and they and they smashed them with the run again. Because i figured they wouldn't be able to repeat the trick which was true but not a different way in raw terms. What in this is very simplified. But what they're doing is playing covered to safety steep and they're telling you to beat yes you're going to have to make eight nine eight ten twelve good place to get down the field. We're not gonna let you do it with one or two big place right now you know. Throw the ball underneath us and we'll try to knock it out. We'll try and make it an incomplete. Run the ball. If you want to go ahead and run it you know you did in the last game and and you know if you beat us again with that fine and and the chiefs did exactly that. They threw the hill through to kelsey. And you know he'll especially broke place from that say buffalo safeties didn't do didn't do a good enough job now. What i would not be surprised if tampa do something similar but tampa have the advantage of those quick linebackers which means they can play some sort of rubber coverage which is what you need to do against the chief by robber. I mean either a safety coming up or a linebacker coming back. Not deep like tampa too but in the middle of the field to to cut those crossing routes out two weeks ago. I think it was. I think it was romo who illustrated the way that although they're coming across the middle those are really go routes just diagonal go routes that those guys are running. And that's what the beauty of the chiefs thing is and and all they have to do is come open for an instant in mahomes puts the ball in stride. And that's what they did against. The bills worked. It worked beautifully. Yeah another parallel with them with the nfc championship. Game is the the criticism that show madonna's face for conservative play calling right so taking a field goal on fourth and three when they were twelve points down in the third for example was right to to bag the points and and chip away. Because you look at the drive at the top of the four after the allen scramble into their into the red zone then of course there was the pick off that but it was a to school game. That's they school. Then it's eleven twelve minutes and it's just eight points in it right so i think madonna's getting unfair criticism for that. What do you think to an extent. I mean he got it in the first half when they took a field goal to and i think i think when you're a defensive oriented team but but you have an offense that that has shown itself capable of making big place that you can justify it while the game is still close while it puts you within a score. Say you know were and the problem with that is. It's like what they used to say about going into new england. You can't keep taking field goals and beat the patriots at home. You have to score touchdowns because they're gonna come back and score a touchdown on you which wasn't chiefs can do so well so i think that's what people have in mind and i gave mcdermott the first one the second one. I wasn't quite so sure. Sure of but now we we now start to think of people needing to go for it on fourth and short when they're in their own territory much less say over the fifty and he obviously had faith in tyler bass kicking fifty one. Yard field goals So that you know fifty one yard field. No gimme which is the other side of the equation with go for it. Because can you trust your kicker to make that she not. It's not it's not sure thing but he did. I'm not hypercritical of that. To beat the chiefs. They needed to stop them from coming back and getting a score and i think that was the biggest thing. Love la suggesting that. The moment was too much for josh allen. I'm seeing that narrative flying around do you think that's fair. see it that way. This was this season anyways at incredible progression of course but this was one of those runs that he's gonna learn a lot from the experience again. I hate to over. Psychological is suppose that for word. I'm trying to think of who that reminds me of those kinds of things that you know. It's a character flaw over the pressure. Got to remember that. Yes you're on a big stage and you have a lot of pressure and every play is crucial so yeah that's that's a factor but you're also playing in this case. Probably the best came football but matter who you're playing in this round you're playing a team that's really good. You know on a usually on both sides of the ball but but certainly either that or very very good on one side of the ball. I think the fact that the chiefs are very very good on the offensive side of the ball and even as good a defensive. Buffalo's couldn't control them put that that's the pressure allen was facing your now at the stage where every mistake means you might be handing a An increase in the lead to the chiefs. And that's that's that is a tough thing to be an and the funny part is one of my bets was for allen to go under three hundred two point five yards passing. What was the what. What did he get in the end to eighty nine something that he was like one good completion away so so i didn't. I didn't mind that. But but i think it's unfair. The third year quarterback now he's improved dramatically. This season i think the takeaway on that for me from the bills is they'll come back better next season you know and It's going to be a very interesting. Nfc east next year for sure afc afc east as well as the nfc less interesting. But that's a very fair point right because the dolphins will although there are questions. There obviously suddenly in the quarterback position that seems to your rumbling. The patriots we think we'll come back stronger because they should run by bill bennett. it would be should. do they. Prize got cap. Space to play with and miami will will be. We'll be good. Don't know who the offensive coordinators going debate. But they seem to change those guys every every and and buffalo. I think we'll be better. They're young team for the most part. I think they you know they might add a an offensive tackle to the mix. I don't know if they need to add running backs up. They might add a linebacker. They they don't have many great pressing needs so they have the luxury of being able to add a couple of quality players. And and as much as you know. Patrick mahomes allen. You know they're not. It's not like patrick. Mahomes didn't come into the nfl after sitting on the bench for the first season and then was that allah didn't have that luxury had a lot more work to do in terms of his game. Coming out of college right and mahomes did the chiefs. Were the chiefs. Were excellent at seeing mahomes. As potential you know right right from the start and therefore getting him in the draft when other teams were drafting upward trading up to get mitch trubisky and but but the bills took that chance on allen when lots of people said he would never be a good. Nfl quarterback and they brought him along brilliantly. I feel mike that he has locked in now. What i mean is that we see before some quarterbacks maybe not necessarily playing to the level that he has for this season but that have A day in the sun but then they regressed back revert back to okay. There's no maybe. I is a better ramp. Lead derek. anderson was a pro bowl pie of had a great season. he had one year. Yeah that's my point. Anderson was more limited guy. He is sure. But do you think it's a fair question to ask if he's hit his peak and know because the other factor in that too is that they won't take teams by surprise this year next year although they probably shouldn't have been taking teams by surprise by the middle of the season. The addition apart from brady i think stefan digs was probably the single best free agent acquisition although as a free agent with the best the best new acquisition of the of the year and in a strange sense when they got john brownback. It seemed to upset the balance a little bit. I'm not. I thought they were better with. Gabe davis playing And and may but then again everyone knows or new you have to. You have to kind of slow stefan digs down to beat the bills. I mean that's you can't let him be you make somebody else be in. You know pretty effectively right. Yeah they did that very effectively. And you know yet cole. Beasley caught a couple of good balls underneath and made yardage on them but thirteen yards to cole. Beasley isn't going to see isn't going to the game. The way the way digs would nailed. Same dawson knox useful tight end but let them complete eight. Passes to dawson knox. That's okay so early. Thought he made a few points already about the the super bowl matchup mike but very early days of course given night away from it but which way which really we're all rather maybe a fair question is where do you think the really the ones we talked about the really interesting match ups are going to be. The most interesting match up to me is going to be tampa's defense against the kansas city. Offense which is not hard to predict their defense has played really well in the last two weeks and kansas city. Is i think. Going to be without eric fisher. I think it's an achilles injury so they're already using a backup at right tackle now. They've got a backup at left tackle as well which is a recipe that green bay know very well is dangerous. so that helps tampa's defense. A lot will depend on the way the game is called. You member my argument after the last super bowl was chiefs up for a big breaks in that game from calls or non calls which turned which turned the game. I'm so you know one of the first as you look at how they're going to call holding in the offense of line second things are going to call. What pass interference downfield. Are you going to let the guys play. And if you do you let them play the whole game because one of the things that they let the guys play thing does and this is true in lots of sports. I mean playoff basketball playoff ice hockey where we know they're gonna let the guys play the guys get worse and worse if you give them an edge. If you don't start calling things it really gets. It really turned into to something bad. But you know i think as i said tampa has got the opportunity to use various kinds of rubber coverages too upset. Kansas city's biggest plays murphy. Bunting for all the holding. Eddie does which is a lot has played really well you know. He's got ball skills as well. Which means it's a double advantage because not only. Can you make a play but you know just when you think. They've got a call that hold. He let he releases it. Make a play on the ball and not many defensive backs can do that that quickly and still make a viable play on the wall. So it's like it. Italian defender from the mid eighties used to know. I mean that. When i first started watching football in the late seventies or whatever you know the two ways you knew afoul we've been committed was at the defender would put his hands up in the air and the guy on the and then the guy on the it wasn't committed the guy on the ground would be rioting if he just been shot through kneecaps And so you knew either way which way the the calls the maybe dot fisher was involved. I mean isn't the most wonderful thing of the week in fact of this sorted by call somebody now because i know you wanna do some season highlights our okay that because i was going back and looking at home my favorite place but really. I think dan campbell's press conference is. My season highlight clearly agree. They took it about pre record seed. Joe buckets that vision for those seconds. That campbell's presser definitely by two. So i might. I might. well do that for you. Record that for you for the beloved okay. So a couple of things before we go. I want a quick take on the show morton situation because three weeks ago everyone inside is i think somebody on this very show was saying there is no chance that show what since leaving houston and now the stories ton completely on its head any and he's definitely leaving houston's extraordinary stuff that is there any way you can rationalize what has happened here in terms of how houston of let this spiro. Completely out of control. Yeah i think. It begins with ownership and ownerships infatuation with jack easterby. And i'm sure that watson perceives That easter be has sort of manipulated his way into a position of real control and that he may not will be the best suited person for that control I and i think that leads to perception as well that he will play favorites And that's designed to be people who will keep him in his position of control. I guess that's what. I'm that was a much better way of expanding what i what i was trying to get at. And so maybe. I'll ask the question again slightly more lucidly why they used be with this battle. As opposed to a franchise quarterback quarterback they can have for the next ten years. Well you know the battles still hasn't finished. And if i were houston my first thing would be for to send nick caserio to talk to what's right and give him his outlook on what you know. What admit now. Watson publicly said he wanted eric the enemy to become the coach. And that's still a possibility. Although i don't know that the enemy i mean i think he was interviewed by zoom. Or something you know they. They could get to him this week if they wanted to But there are other possibilities out there that might well appeal to to depending on what his ultimate criteria are for for the code for the coach that he wants and so. I think that's the first step that i would do. At least as. I've hired a general manager his job is to build a roster. And you want to shawn watson on your roster presumably. i mean. I look at the rumored trade miami. Say for a draft. Pick in two two. Is that really. What would you make that trade. I'm not sure that i would know. Would they be in. The matt. Stafford free agents sweepstakes. I doubt it. You know it's it's a it's a real tough question to answer without knowing the actual dynamic there and. I don't think that anybody has actually sat down with watson. I think this is all being conducted by via twitter. That's that's a terrible way to do this. But what is what is it now. We're not even into february at the season isn't even over and you've got time you know you basically got until the the next The next Nfl year begins which has marched first week march or second week of march. Whatever it is to to get this sorted out so that you know what you're doing. And if i were them that's what i would. I would try to keep to shawn watson and say look i know management made the mistakes year. I come from new england. We're bill o'brien came from and romeo came from and all that. But that's not the way. I think i would not have made that trade Trade away d'andre hopkins For what they got back. I think we you know it's a new management in town and give us a chance you know. Tell me what it is. You think we should be doing. And we'll take that on board it's Not a democracy. But but we we certainly know that your quarterback and your input is good and your thoughts are good. We want to be thinking about what will make this team better if he leaves. It's remarkable when you think that a year ago they were up on the chiefs to that degree in the playoffs. How this team has twelve months extraordinary bottle. Think before we let you go. Hank aaron the great hank aaron passing in the last week His oh bit. We'll be in the guardian euro but took my larry king obe is today another another icon atlanta. We'll go check that out. So hank aaron water of course but you telling us a great story just before we came on to share with listeners. About what a great guy. He was often highly critical of peter. King You know in my own column and sometimes you know when we're just joking around But he does get some great stories and one of the was in. Today's which because i was up early this morning doing radio. I just happened to notice on the timeline henry. Aaron grew up although he grew up in alabama. A cleveland browns fan. Now there wasn't any pro football in the south either so that was. That's another thing because the browns were integrated from one thousand nine hundred forty seven before jackie robinson played in the majors cleveland had black players playing for them hall of famers. You know like like bill willis and marion motley and the rams it integrated as well at the same time but that was way out in the west coast and so he became a cleveland browns fans and while he was in atlanta and while he was working for turner is playing career was over. He would buy tickets in the dog pound at memorial stadium and they're always tickets because it was an eighty thousand plus seat stadium and he would fly up to cleveland he would go to the game by himself and sit or stand in the dog pound with with those guys and watch the games and news of word of this somehow got to ernie coursey who was in the front office at cleveland and aaron came up and was watching a practice in preseason one year cleveland. He was that interested and just with the crowd you know and of course he came up to him and said. Hi mr aaron. You know i'm ernie of course. Em genre system. Gm whatever's title. Wasn't aaron said. I know who you are. You doing a great job you know. Yeah and he said well you know. Can i come in and do this. But an air saddam. Happy here in his here. You come to games every week Can i get you seats. We can put you on the fifty yard line. We'll put you up in the box. You know whenever you want and said no. I like i like being in the dog pound and said you know i'm a fan and that's the best place to be appreciate what i appreciate it. But i'm happy with what i've got and i just thought that was it was so henry. I met erin once when he was working for turner i think it was it a launch of the goodwill games which ted turner was organizing with with moscow and apart from having a grip that could crush your hand if you watch him bat you know that he had incredibly quick and strong wrists and that was the secret of his success he was so unassuming And you also got the real sense that he did not suffer fools gladly. He had worked his way through great Great hardship to the top overcome a lot. And as i say my obituary he was really a key figure in the integration of atlanta. Such as it was because atlanta became a major league city in part when the braves moved there in in sixty six. And and the hawks basketball team. Move there from saint louis and then signed pete mera bitch and and then they got the falcons football team that made that made america Sorry atlanta a big american city and erin was the key almost to that whole thing. You know he was. He was the one who civil rights leaders. Who were you know saying. Well look. we've got an you know it's almost a segregated league. What what can we do. Erin hussein no let let the sap. This is a good thing to happen. I want this to come to the south. You know and he had played in jacksonville in the minor leagues in florida. And you know. I just admire admire him so much. I don't think anybody could know the strain of chasing babe. Ruth's record And and as vin scully. Who called the game live. I think peter put this in as well. You just said it's a great day for the world that that they fulton county stadium is full of people standing up and applauding erin for breaking babe. Ruth's record when they were thousands and thousands of people writing him every day and calling him the nastiest things imaginable. He saved those letters. He saved some of them. You know and eat saved his response. Which would show to. People admire him greatly a truly great baseball player. And certainly one of the. I don't know top ten twelve players of all time. great stuff my raising glosses. we As we always say at waiter to wrap the show. Thanks as always for your insight. Good to see you could check your articles. You're patch compassion dot com forward slash. Mike mt and things your pushing sixty seventy eight hundred tweets a day only on game day four during the week. I slow down a bit. And i get back to my other interested in politics literature and stuff like that which will probably bore or and depending on political muslim. But i did tweet. I did tweet today. A beautiful version of a woody. Guthrie song Doray about people emigrating to california the dust bowl years performed by van dyke parks on piano. Ri- cooder on guitar and bob dylan. Say wow playing guitar. It's absolutely brilliant. It's it's just beautiful stuff. And i highly recommend it. You'll you'll find at carlson's sports go check it out. Good to see bud tickets okay. Thanks me brilliant. Stuff from iron mike. Did you expect anything else. He's back next monday as we build up to super bowl fifty five dropping pods all next week lots of extra content on our social channels as well so we might be out in tampa this time round but we will get you set for the big show. Next show though is thursday. And it's our end of season awards. 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01/22/2021 - Hour 3 - Mahomes vs. Brady Would be the Best Super Bowl

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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01/22/2021 - Hour 3 - Mahomes vs. Brady Would be the Best Super Bowl

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I'm just i'm looking at. It looks good. You can cut cut today. Yeah yeah yeah it looks good. Yeah so by caught it is still a grades coming in. But it's still there you're going to start paying more to it. You die your hair like rob wrong with a little hair dot chris. Whatever makes you comfortable. would you look to die. I don't wanna see you'd be like red with gray. Is that what you know what. I would look like if i didn't my hair. Chris admitted in all he just died. The james bond guy. Sean connery yes. Connor that's what i would look like. Yeah right strong connor. He had the so. You would like you to much gray. Look like the bad guy. The cartoon the redhead kid old stop. Wow we can. Here's a little bit mad because you you die your hair. It's such a young age. I don't dye my hair. I'm proud to migrate. I can't wait to get old that rob. What is this for you chris. How a young man. Compared the mark is when i get old. I hope that rob still the lack of meet him again. Those two ninety nine breakfast. Rob and chris is going to drive by his caravan of vehicles. You know trying to shame us. We're getting a good deal. We're throughout a good deal. The robert rob g rob g-go have ranch dressing in his person might be is. They got the hot sodium baking and g. He didn't fight carrying a purse. There's nothing wrong with that. Create this twenty percent with everything in the twenty first century right. I mean potatoes. I mean i'm the type of cat takes out kneecaps when i get knocked down. Do you by them do you. And if you're not me down again out bite me other one. And i'm smiling natscha. That's right i think. Detroit is hyped. Rob parker you know what the funny thing is. You've probably talked to it. Yeah they're columns out of detroit pushing back there like all of a sudden. The at the national media is over going overboard taking him out of context protecting their new coach. I'm shah from the columns. That i read that they're buying one is that do you let me ask you this. Do you think the lions have reached out and be like. Hey look he's getting killed he just starting job. You know what i mean like. Can you know what i'm thinking is to be. Honest chris i think guys there wanna feel like. They came to the rescue of the home team. You know like you get points from lions fans because no matter what how you feel about him. He's going to be there for the next few years. So it's kind of like a day like they're to fire the press conference he's going to you for years probably three you. They're just for two years then maybe during her years them. Yeah but he's going to get at least two and and like you say it probably at least three barabbas. Let me say this. Last thing about the dan campbell. He can be who he is. You know that's the type of guy. Apparently it just came off kinda creepy and you know what not just to walk. Is that what the players we heard we had greg jennings on the nfl player who played at a high level. Thought it was comical. Chris right one just ripped sports talking heads on television right right right all right rob. Let's let's get to we. We sticking with football for the win which you know as part of usa today they You know all these guys are doing their staff questionnaires. I guess and they asked know of the four possibilities for the super bowl matchup which one would be the sexiest which one is the most desirable. And they found arrived. That it was the chiefs versus the packers. That's right. Kansas city with pat mahomes vs green bay with aaron rodgers. They say that's the most desirable super bowl matchup. You want my opinion or you wanna go first now. You can go because i agree with the survey i disagree i look obviously that would be a great matchup. I'm going to say to honestly rob. There are degrees. there are levels but one thing every any matchup. This year is going to be exciting. Wouldn't you agree with that. Yeah i mean. I would love to see below tapping flows interesting because of what they've been able to do to got a young quarterback digs. Is there you know like the into pretty good. They're not i most people in nfl. america on on buffalo. probably be valley's team the people least one because it would be the cheese getting knocked out so they can't repeat you know what so. It would be a downer. Like oh i would be. There still are storylines there. They've never won a super bowl even though they been. You know what they was the fourth straight right right right so i think any way comes out is gonna be a good fun super bowl but rob i look to me and i think i. I am not just giving my opinion for chris broussard. I think for america that the most desirable super bowl would slightly because yeah eras bad. Mahomes is great. That would be a lot of fun. But i think it's brady mahomes i really do. I think is tampa bay kansas city. And i'm gonna give you one the storylines right themselves storylines galore of forty three year. Old legend leaves new. England goes to a seven and nine team and not only leaves them to the playoffs for the first time in twelve years but he leads them to the super bowl. I mean that that would be huge. Obviously on the other side you got oughta story lines with mahomes went into in a row all of that stuff. But here's the other thing rob. This could serve as a passing of the torch and we know tom. Brady is no longer the best quarterback in the nfl but figuratively. I mean he. He's the go in most people's estimates and he's not the goat. He's certainly ahead of rogers. In everybody's estimation and so two it would if mahatma holds against andy i've said it but many others have to one day that pat mahomes could be the goal and so this would serve as a symbolic passing of the torch if they met and if mahomes was the beating and if brady somehow is to win i mean my goodness the o'hare patch the youngster on the top of the hands. Says wait your turn son. I'm not done. I just think in. I'm not gonna deny that. Rogers malls wouldn't be fantastic. But i really think the more compelling game would be tape obey bay kansas city because of all the story and the last thing when you're trying to take the torch you gotta get it you gotta take it from the greatest air. Rogers is not the greatest he might be in some people's estimation the greatest to throw the football but he's not the goat as they really. Take the torch. You gotta take it from the goat. I would rather see brooklyn. Take it from lebron. James and the lakers from colli. Leonard and the clippers. Take it from the go. Take it from the god. Is the best player you know. Playing still playing has got the highest legend the highest. You know overall rank historically think that'd be a better game. I could not disagree more. I think people are tired of the brady act. I think there are a lot of people who just don't want to see tom brady anymore. I think aaron rodgers because of what happened this year. they draft his replacement. They don't get him any help like the storyline finally got a defense to go with this guy if they would've if he were to knock off. Tom brady and then to knock off. Patrick mahomes the super bowl it. It would be bigger. It would it. Would it would enhance like all the talk about him. And then you would look and go. Who knows you know. He didn't play first three years. We know he's thirty seven. He might have a chance in the nfc to run off two or three before he retired. It opens up a whole nother story line and then people will remember. Oh yeah he beat. Tom brady then he beat the mvp then. He beat patrick mahomes in the super bowl and the packers won two more. Aaron rodgers finishes career four. No would all these past guy. We've no pro bono. I'm just giving you like what it could be. And that's why this is a story because it's the ultimate redemption story for for aaron rodgers from the standpoint. That people wrote them off chris. Maybe you didn't other. People wrote them off. Bucky brew other bucky brew. Well other people just thought the other bucky did it he's overrated. He finished his career in chicago. All this other stuff is just a matter of time before they're ready to move on new jordan love and all this stuff and when they drafted jordan love people were like. Oh it's just a matter of time. Aaron rodgers will be out of there and instead he's playing his best football. I think people want to see aaron rodgers playing his best football and what he see. What's the possibility with a good defense. I think this is the best team he's ever had with all the pieces parts and if he were able to pull this off it would finally be what chris you've always talked about. They never gave him a defense. They never did this and never did that. He finally had all those things and he was able to put it together win super bowl. And then you look and go up. Tom brady playtoy forty-three. Aaron rodgers thirty seven. Why can't he have three or four more good years. He didn't even have to go to tom. Brady's forty three and could have three afford more good years. So so that's why i think it would be an would be if he beat. Patrick mahomes who who you say is jordan. I think that would say something will join that. I think it would say something to aaron rodgers. Here's the young gun where everybody was going crazy about saying. He's the next coming of of of the greatest quarterback ever and he got knocked out by aaron rodgers at thirty seven years old and rodgers won the mvp and and the super bowl. I just think that that story is a great one of all four quarterbacks. Tom brady's the worst of the four and i don't. I don't look at it when i look at the box. And what they've done to get there. I don't look at tom brady and go. Oh my god unbelievable. What tom brady didn't last game against the saints. that's not. that's not what i look at. I look at how the defense play at tom. Brady of course took advantage of the situation. You're going to belittle me. But i would love to just talking about. His numbers weren't great but what he's brought. Afc team in the nfc best team. Well we get that. We're going to get that for sure. So is going to be a good one. I turned away. Eight seven seven ninety nine or fox as seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. What is the most desirable matchup in the super bowl. I've got bucket nears chiefs rob's got packers chiefs. What say you fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. 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Good so In my opinion. I think that she's in packers. Are the best super bowl like most view and in my personal opinion because I think just because everyone thinking that era is gonna win. Mvp and having him a mr wonderboy in patrick mahomes. I think he's gonna be the best. Deal tom brady. I mean we bought feet top ready planned lot and i think kids his legacy been made so. I think giving air rogers more chance to see if he can win. Another super bowl is going to be the best viewing in my opinion defense in the league. Little take outs doubt about a good good job by tony. John in new zealand are men down under. You're on the odd couple fox sports radio get lsu near thank you body we pre at you and you know rob we give you a hard time but you know we love you any. Pull the pick of the ones you love. I guess that's the case that what. Chris does every day five days a week plumbing pigtails because i love him but but rub you know brady could give birth to coin during the during the super bowl and you would go. That's what impresses the one was right. You're right about that absolutely nothing. Tom brady could do to earn a comment. Yes penny but he would have to be batting in the bottom of the night at yankee stadium and hit a grand slam home. Run with two outs to win the game and not say man. Tom brady something else. You're going to hear that trust. Can there was a trust kenilworth. I would wind up that he was tipped off right. There you go. that's good. I i think the nfl is praying for brady voices. Moms because i mean you could mock you could market the heaven out of that and I think that would be. The market is dream. You know the new face of of of the nfl and The the most wing winning football player full-time and amazing step. That brady now is going to. He's going to. I think it's nine hundred seventeen. I couldn't remember Champ champion james bennett houses. These only three franchises in the nfl that have been two more championship games in him So it's it's more than seven unbelie lose. We lost john john. Thanks thanks for your support. Down there to appreciate your call. Chris in dayton. You're on the odd couple fox sports radio. What's up chris Hey hey rob. Hey chris. I'm longtime listener first-time caller guys on the undisputed that you guys really have objectivity over skipping shannon there My take is You know twenty years from now. If mahomes keeps on this path he'll be You know arguably the go with. Tom brady and tampa bay versus You know kansas city. Which i think would be the best match up. You know people look at that twenty years from and whoever won you know they can say that. You're there the better player. Now if edwards allaire on bell cops up a couple of fumbles or there's a special teams touchdown that'll be a huge difference in the game but twenty years for now. Nobody's going to really think about that or look at that. That's good i like that. Yeah excellent like the matchup. But this fine joseph indiana. You're on the couple of fox sports radio what's up joseph much during the right joseph. How're you brother. i'm good. It's just another hard day at work for another workweek. But i hear you what. Tgif man but my im- i going to have a probably honest of whole bunch. Bill versus packers bills. Explain that one. I think just because josh allen and and throw gunslingers you got the future of the gunslinger. There'd be interesting match two guys that were never seen as top prospects when during the college overall that would be the project being going like the similar path when they came the nfl. Okay what i will give. You is this. I don't. I think that would be a fine match. I don't think there's a bad match up. But i don't think that's the most desirable that's for sure. Yeah that's that's a desirable for him because it would be it would definitely we already know if chiefs get knocked out. People will be bummed out 'cause they want to see if the if he could pull it off again and if they lose their would be. It would be down with that changing the narrative at all about muhammad loss of buffalo. Now curious no. I know i know you're not. I know you you serious. No because you know. I don't expect this is football robin and is hard to repeat and you obviously don't win it every year like you said before brady has six and win a whole decade essentially without winning without winning a well. That's how hard and jordan is great. You know i've called him jordan. Ask didn't win it every year. So got our man lamar mitchell. Mgm grand racist sportsbook developed coming up to get you ready. I hope you didn't play ship. Bats yet wait to after this interview to place your bets. My when you as my partner would say some shackles. 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We get ready for big weekend. Man going to be a lot of fun but man. I feel like getting on the plane and heading to vegas. I'm getting antsy. Man sounds like a big fight coming up to know. Yeah is that fight in vegas. No right But before we look ahead to this weekend games tell us quickly how you guys it the mgm did in the divisional row like are we going to see a new mgm property going up anytime soon. Well you know we did do rather well But you know we took up through in the regular season so you know it always balances out okay. All right well. let's get into the game. Patrick mahomes is going to play sunday but it was a little dicey earlier in the week. And i read somewhere that if mahomes didn't play the line would have shifted like seven points in the opposite direction. Is there any player in football. Who affects the line. More than patrick. Mahomes say if it was aaron rodgers. Tom brady right now. You just mentioned this spot on characters that would change your line that much. it will be your favorite quarterback. Tb twelve or You know a mouth or aaron rodgers. Those are the only quarterback that would really affected line that much right now at this time. I mean those guys are all on a different planet. The way they play. So those are the only guys that are in Back category right. Now right lamar. The bills have been the hottest team in the league. Over the second half of the season they covered their last eight regular season games and then they covered again last week against baltimore. What kind of action are you seeing on the underdog bills plus three. But what kind of accent are you seeing on. Actually right now as far ticket count. It's pretty even on this game here. We did openness at Three got that down so the sharps to money on the bills But the public right now It's like i say pretty even. And we expect more money to come back on the chiefs because mahomes has It's been out and he's gonna play right But not a lot of bills mafia there. They're still there but it's it's pretty balance out. How about the cheese. I mean they win but not against the spread one and eight against the spread in the last nine now. They're aiden won outright in those games at the same time so it's hard to say. They're struggling but given that trend. Are you seeing many better. Just taking the chiefs on the money line instead with the points actually on the money. It's it's pretty even as well to The chiefs we didn't have a lot of action on them early but with mahomes like i said we expect everybody to come back on mahomes knowing that he is healthy and They're the even though. It's bills have the bigger following a kansas city with their following. An mahomes everybody knows the super bowl defending champs and they'll be all over them. Come sunday. lamar. I'm looking at the board. And the one thing that standing out to me is the total for the packers bucks is set at fifty two. I know they're playing in the frozen tundra. But it's not like aaron rodgers and tom brady don't have experience playing in cold weather. What kind of action are you seeing on the total. Leave it or not. It's been pretty steady for us We've expected it'd be back up a little bit more 'cause fifty one when we opened in fifty one it got that up like you said to fifty two but It's pretty steady on that total. Not a lot of action the under Not a lot of action on the over. But like i say pretty steady. And you're right. I mean both these guys have a ton of experience play in the cold weather so will be fun to see if they can go over that total which with the points but it looks like that's the right number all right lamarcus to last month from me. Packers opened up three and a half point favorites. The line really hasn't moved much as far as i can tell. What kind of action are you seeing in this game. We you funny. You should ask because when we open this up. We opened this number up here packers four. Sharps eight. that up gobble. That i need it. They gobbled that up But recently we've seen about three to one ticket count on the packers because they are public team even though it's twelve and his world but we just recently before you before we got on. We took a huge six figure. Bet on the packers. Wow who was it. Tom brady know who do you have. In this weekend's games well I i like the packers cover. And i like that. Total go over. And i do like the chiefs today or on sundays. Well okay okay. Okay well look. I want to close it out with this earlier this week. We had a hot seat segment and one of our update anchors. David gas got to worry about him. Try to say the venetian was best hotel. In vegas i lamar. I had to put him in his place and let him know that the odd couple rolls with the mgm grand. Take a listen. I'll give you two reasons to a why the mgm grand is number one in vegas. Alex is the man. Yes the racing sports book director hundred grand lamar mitchell. Mgm is the bomb. If you go to vegas folks to mgm is the best hotel on this strip there. It is why like. I worked up the fight. Thank you very much for the shadow and we are the best as rob contest. Come down and see us. We'll take care of you safely and we've got these beautiful skyboxes and incredible staff. You know every time. I come as lamar mitchell. Great stuff as always brother have a good weekend and enjoy the games. All right you too have a good weekend. All right rob. It's the nfl pigskin peak off coming up next keeping locked fox sports radio. The fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. Call one eight eight eight farmers and you could save on your auto insurance. It's better than using your phone to see if your post got any likes again. Call one eight eight farmers to get a quote underwritten by farmers circuit for insurance exchanges our affiliate proxima and every state all right. It is the couple. Chris and rob wrapping up a funky flash back friday. We're coming to you live from the farmers insurance fox sports radio studios you can call one eight eight eight farmers and you could save a whole lot of something. Something that's money or auto insurance. Rob looks like i mean there's two and a half minutes left but it looks like the nets are about to go down for the second straight time to the cleveland cavaliers and right nows one seventeen one. Oh four cavs now. Kevin durant didn't play but kyrie irving and james harden did got thirty eight points five assists. James harden got nineteen points. Eleven assists has only taken. fourteen shots. any thoughts dantonio throw it in the white house because if kevin durant les i would be. I would be alarmed and they didn't give up one hundred and fifty points. It's just basketball. And when when you don't have all your players it's hard for me to make a true judgment. Well yeah yeah. That's all. I mean i'm not making a big deal about it and the cavaliers on one in ten five hundred year they're going to be eight and seven after this. If that's what was a five hundred team right i mean. Sure if you're brooklyn you wanna win every game and it would look great if you did. But i just think that's unrealistic. I don't think that they need to like feel like they gotta win every game or like they're making a statement during the regular season. I don't think it's that important. Well you and. I have seen and we've mentioned before big. Three's come together and look. I've i've got to win the east so i'm not bailing on them and i like you say you don't wanna make too much out of one game but it is look you can't just always throw a together bunch of talent we saw with barclay alasia ron and drexler and we saw will jerry west. Elgin baylor so they gotta they gotta get. They don't have a lot of practice time. That's the thing rob said. He have to work through these games and really work on getting in sync and particularly on the defensive end. So all right well we will get back to the nfl. Which of course is going to rule this weekend. On sunday you got the packers. And the buccaneers at lambeau in green bay wisconsin and you have got the chiefs and the bills in kansas city. What a weekend all right. It is time for our picks. The nfl pigskin pickoff. You ready to retire. The odd couple is gonna make you rich gambling by pits. Their pigskin pickoff. Yes sir it is the pigskin pickoff chris rock. Nfl games against the spread. Before we pick this weekend's games we gotta look back and let me just say this we do the mark. Mitchell apparently listened to the show not just his own segment and he said. Tell chris raab. They're more than welcome to lose their money. The mgm grand anytime. Because he's he's heard your against us ready. You guys are terrible. This season they saw. I mean you were relatively good to both of you last week but that's still not a winning week any way you slice it so again. America fade the. Where were you last week. I didn't pick games. You didn't go your own chris. You got liquid money like the odd couple throwing money down the drain day. I know your wife would would would knock you out now. I know chris an extra side account just to play with. He has to play with eight job so he didn't even know paychecks of four hundred dollar sneakers every two weeks now. No not this. Have money to play with where my niece porthos for me. Thank you brandy after. Brought her a car. Hard guy so again. There's only two games some fun. We're going to also do the totals in this one just to keep it interesting but we're starting here bucks. Packers packers three and a half point. Favorites in lambeau rob parker. Who do you like this one against the spread. I'm just gonna take the packers. Just been playing good football and you know unless there's four turnovers i just can't see the bucks of beating them. In green bay and aaron rodgers has played his best football. I think in his career and that says a lot and if they are well balanced attack. It's not just aaron rodgers. If they can run the ball at all it will open up the passing game. Y'all know who i got. America knows who they know. Who i got down in new zealand's. They know who i've got in china. They know who. I've got in africa. Tom brady they know to god. Who in an article. I am going with the tampa. Bay buccaneers iraq. Let's tell everybody about our bet. Rob they know it already. They've been listening to the show to folks out there if if green bay wins which look this is going to be. They might. I mean their favorite for reason but if green bay wins i have to buy one pair of air jordan two hundred dollar max right if tampa bay whiz rob rob opened up his mouth. He's gonna have to buy shoe. That's right count em su- pairs of air jordan one to four hundred dollars value. So i i'm fine. All i'm going to say is already one more pair from you so i feel good and that was even a tougher game to pick the nationals over. You remember that rob. Gee what do winter footlocker and try to sneak. I remember that guys before we get over to the afc match up. Chris quickly the total fifty two taking the over or the under on this In that weather grady chris. I know come on please. You call us off guard notes. I'm gonna go under. Okay i'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go over. I thought the same. I went under when they played the rams thinking with the number one defense. They wouldn't be able to put a point to put up thirty two points against them. I think they put up at least thirty five or thirty eight against tampa and think temporal score twenty three points. I'm taking the old blowout. All we keep it movin. Afc championship game. josh allen. The bills against pat mahomes and the chiefs chiefs. Three point favorites. Chris bruce already like in this one man. They know who i got all over america they know boom and you always pick the favorites. Why always pick the winner. I'm two super bowls Thank you in the point to win or is it just to be entertained and just make a hot take they know what got in china they know all right her. I got the chiefs. Y'all know that. I'm going with the bills and a shoe. Mangas upset this. Will we have everybody reevaluating. The chiefs and patrick mahomes crystal. Good office. Soapbox no i was. We'll be a monument to wind for. The bills are eyebrows quickly. Over under fifty. Four you taking the over and the under in this one. I'm going to the under under fifty four please over there. It is the official odd couple. Picks make sure you fade. The heck out of them with your books. Have a good weekend. Guys thanks battery. where are you going with. arou- rob roster run and getting some baloney. Nah got big as oh baked chicken. Greens collard greens and a salad. Diet is tea. You need oughta. That's all good kinda diet. I mean my goodness low carb is. Yeah it's dakyns all right all right. I don't know alex is now. Dow low five star. Subscribe an ice comment.

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Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland [HR 1]

"I hey hi. How are you what's happening. Hey Hey you know for those of you. thinking the dodgers playoffs don't start until Thursday thinking in two hours from now two hours from now it matters the winner of tonight wildcard. What Card playoff game a game you can hear right here on. ESPN LA means everything to the dodgers because that's who they play yeah. It's either going to be the Washington nationals. Nationals who are hosting the Milwaukee brewers the nationals are starting Max Scherzer who figures would be really good and the brewers plan on throwing five were six different pitches tonight. Hey by the way the nationals plan on throwing sure tsar for four and then going to Strasbourg for four yeah. I think that if I Surrey shutting them out after four they're not taking them out. I don't know I don't know they want to keep these guys as fresh as possible to win the game and don't WanNa go to their pen. That's the most important think think Washington does not want to go to its bullpen which has been a disaster all year long even after midseason trades so that means if they have to go to Strasbourg they have to go to Strasbourg and by the way that would mean that the dodgers would face Corbyn in game one Thursday at Dodger Stadium Idiom. Here's my thought on all this. They'RE NOT GONNA burn Strasbourg unless they have to so if sure is going strong after four five innings they'll leave him in but if you're right if he's struggling then you have to Ringstrasse for again and then you burn basically to your three big so I think we're rooting for a a high scoring game higher skating Tuesday. Yep If sherve pitches five innings done for Thursday no Friday what's assume Oh let's assume Corbin I don't know do you. WanNa throw a guy on three days rest this early in the postseason after they lose game one they will they will they'll they'll come back with. Sherzer and then Strasbourg logo game three in Washington. Wait what I'm anticipating if they do go shirts or Strasbourg tonight than Corbin game one serves her game too and then Strasbourg game three on Sunday correct and which would you want. You don't want shared servers Kershaw in game in three you want Strasbourg going to beans kershaw right Kirscher. Kershaw Scherzer's assured there would be no fun on Friday. That's for sure yeah it'll be fascinating to see the way these two teams operate and I think again we're going to start seeing less of this sort of closer slash bridge guy mentality and much more of the whole pitching staff that means if they have to throw Shergar and Strasbourg tonight they throw Shire's in Strasbourg Milwaukee could throw as many as five pitchers tonight six pitchers maybe so and and that's the way the dodgers were playing down the stretch greg. They were thrown six six seven pitches a game yeah they were. They were experimenting with a lot of different things while you saw richhill Goto innings then gone slim two innings and may would get two innings. They're doing a lot of different things because they know that the starters are more important than the bullpen pieces I a friend of mine. WHO's a big dodger? Fan stopped me today and said explain to me why you would wanNA have richhill instead of May or gone and the only thing I can come up with was ritualized experience but isn't he right then in terms of stuff. Wouldn't you rather rather see gunslinger made than retailers. Ritual is only going to throw two or three in Vedeno blitz. Let's isolate those two or three and yes would you would you rather see Gondolen Colin may or ritual ritual ritual through five and two thirds innings when he came back allowed one earned run oh fifty nine batting average against buck fifty fifty nine. Era I think ritual is the right guy for that job now again. If he throws two or three innings that means you may see Johnson or may come in from their rituals. GonNa go as long as you're. You're gonNA let him go. Ritual has been over the last two years the best dodger pitcher in the postseason. You won't see him a third time. I am through the lineup which is a big thing most likely not but that's why you have guys like gunslinger and may be able to have that in the consulate or may right. It's one or the other yeah Goslin or made. An Orioles. Dare stripling is there. They have guys that are starters. Majeida guys that can go multiple innings Yup. No it's it's going to be a really interesting approach for the dodgers and there's a lot of you know concern about Kenley Jansen Kenley Jansen in the month of September actually through okay with the exception of one. S- one appearance eleven or third innings he allowed four earned runs two of those came in one appearance buck seventy one average against in point ninety seven whip so Kenley Jansen isn't sick saves in seven opportunities so he did have a blown say but six saves in seven opportunities in September. I don't feel bad about that. Yes money GRONDAHL batting second tonight for the brewers so you've been doing that lately. It seems weird weird paying attention maybe watch they obviously had to had to kind of go crazy win. Christian Yelich went down for of the season but it's only one game anybody can win. One game. Doll wasn't all star this year just to be completely clear so him being up the top dozen surprise me yeah right he wasn't he'd had a fantastic year for Milwaukee by the way that we get every once in a while. We get odd from Las Vegas. Yeah and you know that I'll just read them to you so here are the odds courtesy of bent online American League Kim. Vp Alex Bregman Tuta three Mike Trout eleven to ten so in other words they think Bregman got it while so maybe trump trout missing that last three four weeks of the season really hurt him but cody bellinger to win the National League. MVP One to two huge favorite yes so the big favourite so but trout looks like he's out. I mean they know something. They wouldn't make Bregman a two to three favorite. He's minus one fifty two to three verses six NAFTA five Actually that's really close. Ah Level Trout's eleven to ten right by learned men and two two two three r close well that goes trout is plus. One ten and Bregman is minus one fifty so if you bet one hundred dollars on you'd have to Tibet one hundred fifty dollars is to win a hundred on Bregman Bregman right and if you bet one hundred dollars on trout you get one hundred ten back right so it's did they think Bregman got some so more interesting things. Los Angeles Angels next manager Joe Madden Three two two Joe Girardi seventy cindy to shelter five to why they gets mad and I shocked if it's not a done deal on. I thought I thought Madden would be like what Bregman is like. One is is that out of courtesy. You don't make announcements like that. During the postseason they wait until the end of the series that announcement minor standing he's always been you can't announced announced during the world series but before the world series you are okay so my assumptions they could announce it today if they wanted they actually gone and fired madden yet or is he just no in a madness this Sunday. It's going to be gone no the cubs in Madden announced as he's not gonNA sign. That contract is up so there's an opening in Chicago and there's an opening in in Anaheim so madden is a free agent and I can't imagine a scenario where he doesn't get that job but interesting. Joe Girardi is the second pick Girardi. Who's WHO's been hasn't managed since he left the Yankees wouldn't surprise me to see Girardi. Take a job somewhere I mean there are multiple jobs so it didn't used to play the cups yeah. There's the cubs there. There's the phillies. There's a padres mean. They're multiple jobs open so it wouldn't be surprised to see Girardi land up in in one of those land up in hate that phrase that you you get that from me all right. Let me see Oh. Well you know coming up. We've got the have you heard. The shack. Verses Says Damian Lillard wrap. I've heard about it. I haven't heard battle itself knowing what I know. Damian Lillard is the best athlete rapper. I've I've ever seen it now. Shack was good but Damian Lillard unlike another level yes. He sounds like a recording heart. You'll hear another level okay when we come back I if you want to save some money refinancing your credit card. Balances is the best way to do that. You can lower your interest rate. 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I subject to change without notice visit livestream dot com slash mason for more information Mason and Ireland. Espn La Hey what's going on. It's Mason in Ireland turn up afternoon drive every day at three and John Parlay gesture. You did it again last night. Just a small setback lost yet. Another Bergman won a parlay last night. I am the parlay king now. This is the problem. The one true Pie amd the one true king. That's the first was partly you've never wanted to parlays. I've won the both okay so order you here's the thing you know how much money you have now one hundred ninety eighty six thousand you know the end result of this mace going to have to bet big. No Bergman's going to think he can do it for real. No God no going to bed a what can I bet that Bergman develops an actual gambling problem he's going to go. I made one hundred thousand dollars. I'm GonNa do this for real. Don't you need to start with the money. You know that's what he's GonNa. Do He's going to say I'm a little short on cash. I'M GONNA make a bet. He's GonNa get. He's going to get an off-shore book. Hello Curacao. I know people and and you I'm I'm dead serious. This is where this is heading. You are so hot and mythical money that you are going to somehow amount convince yourself that you can do it for real which is a terrible idea. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA have to make a gigantic that they just got to you. You got to parlay betting parlor sucker bet now wait a minute though there if they're not in this case so let's say you bet what are you got like seventy five eight hundred eighty two thousand five hundred dollars not that. I'm counting okay so I'm going to have to do this too but I'm gonNA forty two five yeah. I'm going to have to even do it bigger than you but you you a reasonable last night. What Greg hit was a three team parlay. If you hit a three Teamer Yep k. you just gotta find. Can you really like what I would suggest is college football like take a team like Alabama or Ohio state teams that just roll lost both Wisconsin -Sconsin and Clemson this okay so but talk listen Ireland no but I'm talking about like an and I love those an easy game last week would have been I think Ohio State Michigan was an he's again George Yeah in Michigan. Just kill somebody so look for three of those okay yeah you bet forty grant less than half ways as routine part. Wait listen you find three. You really like you get forty grand. It pays you six to one. That's two hundred forty thousand dollars in Dwarf Birdman. My best bet is to just forty thousand straight up on a game. I feel great and then you only have one twenty. He's two hundred grand. I all I need is a couple of those none. I don't know but if you if you if you just hit three but you know harleys are soccer. They're still he was a soccer. What are you talking about. imbedding three just got one right parlays. If you ask anybody they'll say Harlem just waiting for the right bomb to drop and then I'm dropping a bomb. You have lost eighteen eighteen thousand dollars since you started betting parlors yeah but I won one so sixty five hundred yeah so I've only lost twelve which also I don't understand why he got sixty five hundred for that and I got six six thousand for it. Why did you get sixty five hundred. I just google. What is the three team? Parlay came up sixty one google it all right so tomorrow is gambling day because we're off off the air on Thursday and then Greg doing a show Friday. You're not gonNA have a show. We are add those games are going to drag on forever in Friday at four once. You're listening it'll be people will be listening because we have the Games but the Games are going to go on but we will be your dodger pre-game show Friday at four thirty. the pre-game show will be whatever games on before that that's my prediction we have a thousand dollar bet on that yeah which it's just okay so yeah and they haven't announced announced any of the Friday gametime ship but they're four no the dodgers are either at six thirty or six hundred by the end tonight yeah yeah depending on where they don't shift that much. I mean like for our games either six thirty or six forty Fridays Thursdays the hour different Thursdays the hour difference by the way Rams uh-huh underdogs yeah two point underdogs. Seattle actually got all the lines here Let's see I really hard did Wendy pick two point underdogs at Seattle raiders five point underdogs to Chicago there by the way the hardware of the charger game Denver is terrible. Let me see if I can get it. Where is that Game Broncos chargers. I I think have that yeah. I think it's in. La I think it's here at that bandbox. They play in if it is if it's here I'm going to say I got I. It's at at the bandbox okay. I don't think I don't think you can give the charger seven. I don't think you can do it chargers by six. How close it's it's chargers by six exactly right on the back. Okay Boy Denver's not they've lost two games going down to the wire. The last two weeks jabeen now Bradley Chubb for the year and four JOE FLACCO has been really bad day they they can't run the ball they look they look really bad but but so what's the right side of that game not one not one. I would necessarily be either yeah. That's not the Harvard I'm talking about. Survivor picks this week and I think I'm now out so I can give you all the bad advice you guys need. My mom is in. My arm is still in yeah. I'M GONNA GO MOM is out your mom's out went out with the ramp snap. I'M GONNA go with Philly at home against the jets. That's the biggest points was the same one I'm gonNA take. What's the biggest point spread biggest point. Spread is New England minus fifteen at Washington but you've already taken New England. I'm I've already used doing. Greg has new England New England yet. I'm not using it because I'm waiting for them to play Miami again especially at home yeah but that's risky once you wait then. I I have my this is my system that I'm going now drought. It doesn't matter system. I system that is working right now. is that. I take a home name in the hat. No one home favor that is not playing a division opponent that makes no sense it makes perfect sense the real gamblers. I'm telling you he's GonNa think you can Hindu it for real yeah. This is the biggest risk of getting hot and mythical money will be making money will be He. He's going to be like Matt Damon. Aiman rounders is getting beat up by a bunch of Russian thugs. I have five times what you have right. That's why I'm saying. You're going to develop an actual gambling problem. You pay that man. He's a year last year. I was way up after the super bowl and I say hey I can do this. Real right and that was in February cannot yeah this. This is October. We're we're just waiting to play our our big. Play in December. Parlay is coming in December all right Let me see coming up. We'll do the the dame lillard shack will also coming up as Matthew Berry so you can fill in yeah yeah yeah yeah for for this or that I need to make I need to make a fantasy. Football Trade. got a look at the teams like you that are on the bottom and I'm I'm on a one game winning streak. That is impressive but the guy played this week. Is it one inch away from beating fantasy that Cooper Cup play now had he gotten into the end zone on that or they call it correctly beat new fifty to forty nine would've should at your teammate any great shakes. You WanNa bet might finish out your team your what two and two I'm not betting of course not sure the worst so bad player lost my number one pick. I lost saquon Barkley. I'll trade for him. Trade Me Saquon Barkley Way. I feel so calm cutting in Tonio Brown this week you're you're that confident often who out of the League right cutting I'll trade. I'll trade for Saquon Barkley if you want to pick up his. Did you pick his backup. Yeah backups as backup. I've got so so there are no saquon will be back sooner or later. The guy played this week has no quarterbacks. I gotta I'M GONNA trade him a quarterback and see if I can fleece them yeah because you've got both I've I've got three good quarterbacks got. Brady mahomes right no Brady Wentz and Stafford who have all been great this year wow so and his his quarterbacks are Baker Mayfield sleep on the Brown Sam Darnold in Gardner Miss.. You don't sleep on the browns. Oh that's a bit we should bet ya That's like a a big mason in Ireland disagreement. You think the browns are GonNa have a winning record. I think they're going to losing right. Now is five hundred constitute a winning record. It's the push to push so What do you WanNa bet that I I say Randall finished with a losing record this season you say well. Can we do that or does this. Season go into twenty twenty goes into twenty twenty. We can just say at the end of the year. Yeah we'll figure it out so coming up next Matthew Barry so if you WanNa know who play fantasy football this weekend this or that Matthew will take your calls and Matthew will will will also you can tweet us yes twitter at Venice Mace twitter at. La Ireland and we'll read some of your tweets true story last night. My wife screams from the kitchen like something horrible has happened. Oh God another another plumbing problem exactly I said what is the worst plumbing. Why are you screaming. 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That's eight hundred five eight four four one six or visit power pro plumbing dot dot com all right Mason and Ireland Matthew Berry is coming up next we will open the phones and give you a chance to ring through for Matthew Matthew us at eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN and we can also tweet on twitter at Venice Maze Twitter at Ireland a who you play who do you not play this weekend in Fantasy Mason and Ireland ESPN la.. I turn up afternoon drive Mason Ireland. Matthew Berry is on the line. The talented wanted Mr Rodeo Matthew how you doing man I'm good good. How Are you Oh Matthew. We're doing great and you're killing as usually see you on all different platforms at ESPN ESPN bunch of questions for you this week so let's. Let's just start throwing them out there. What should mace. I think you're in this yeah. What should people do with Melvin Gordon implant system trade him to do what would I do. I think it depends on what you have there. I haven't done my ranks yet for week five but apply have him. You know borderline rb to high end. They've said they want to eat him and it's a good match and believe it or not the Broncos broncos thirtieth against the run over the last four weeks. I mean we just saw what Leonard Fournette doing last week and so you know and he'll catch some balls out of the backfield because you know they're pretty pretty beat up so we don't know kind of what kind of conditioning he's in yet but Anthony Lennon said he's going to be the guy so you know I think first week back it's probably more of a split between him and cler but I'm probably starting depends on who else you have of course interesting all right my rank on. ESPN okay so what in General Matthew ask you. What are you telling people to do with Todd Gurley. I think you've gotta keep holding onto him right. I mean so lame though plan every week yeah of course I mean look he's still still getting. It's still one of the best offenses football he's still getting seventy five percents of the snaps running back snaps for the rams. You Know Malcolm Brown. He's GonNa get two or three series of game but you know what are we scored twice last week. Tim based got the number one run defense in the NFL through the first four weeks of the season like so just the fact that he didn't. He didn't run much last last week. The fact that he was in using the passing game was great because he hasn't been using the passing game up until last week so you know we talked about this on the show last week. Maybe who knows maybe Sean John mcvay or somebody from the rams heard that and like Oh yeah maybe we should throw todd Gurley a little bit more. I think that was good and you know seahawks. It's IT'S A it's a it's a tough run defense but I think you've gotta keep starting early as long as he's healthy and out there okay last week. Winkelmann was the big waiver wire pickup. Who is the big waiver wire pickup. Who should people be looking for this week. I don't know there's anyone great out there. In terms of running back or just in general general in general you know listen. It looks it's like Davante. Adams is trending towards not playing so drama allison who has had double fantasy points in eight eleven games in which is run at least thirty routes and if Adams isn't gonNA play. He's GonNa play a lot and so I you know Alison along with Markelle. Zealous Gatling are going to be the top to pass catching options tends for Aaron Rodgers against the cowboys on Sunday so drama Alison I think is right up there running back Ronald Jones the Tampa Bay buccaneer look good look good good last week against against the Rams and you start to play played a lot. More snap play got more touches. What do you think of Jalen Samuels. What do you think of Jalen Eland Samuels from the steelers. I was just about to mention him. You know so he had a real nice game last week and it doesn't seem like they want to have Mason Rudolph really open it up at least initially so there you know. I don't think they're gonNA get away with as much gadget stuff next week now that they've sort of playing the bengals it's the first time anyone saw them do that so they're not gonna get away with it as much but I think he's a flex play. I'd prefer Ronald Jones Jalen sales because he's still got James Conroy low James Connor. You know it came up that he he he hurt his ankle last night so we don't know how serious that is but he's important handcuff obviously the James Connor and then also. I think there's some flexibility given that they're you know they're letting him throw some passes. It's you know whatever it's that it's that short little shovel pass thing but it still counts as a pass you know and they're they're having him run the ball and they're playing some wildcat all cat with him so yeah. I think Jalen Samuels as long as Pittsburgh keeps. This sort of offense is a flex by going forward with obviously handcuff upside. Also Jordan Howard's out there in about he's only I was going to ask you about him. He had a monster game and is he now like the Eagles go-to. Guy Was that just one game a little bit about so it he's not the Eagles Guy. Because Doug Peterson always likes a running back by committee having said that like they don't WanNa give it all the miles sanders who's had a up and down rookie year ear so far they like how Jordan Howard finishes runs they like them in closed like them in short yardage and goal line so here's a team that gets into the Red Zone A lot. What has a very good offensive line. Jordan Howard scored nine touchdowns each of the last two years. You know obviously well on his way to that this year. So I Jordan Howard ranked higher than Mile Sanders Zander's this week in a pretty good match against the jets so it's still gonNA be running back by committee but Jordan Howard is still available in like forty five percent of ESPN. Leagues is certainly somebody that if he's out there in your league is worth looking at. I'm forego the cost last thing the everybody's picked up all these Kansas City guys like I picked up both demarcus Robinson and Daryl Williams. Should I be playing these guys having so obviously without knowing who else you have and Williams is playing time. I think is somewhat predicated on Damian. Williams sure his team mate WHO's missed the last two weeks. We don't know yet if he's going to be able to play this week against against the colts but yes if Damian Williams out again then Daryl. Williams certainly should be started. He's got like he's got at least half that backfield job tillerson McCoy now some it's play based on blocking an understanding of of schemes and and package concepts because McCoy just got their Daryl Williams has been in the system longer. You know you saw at the end of the game against the lions like they went to Williams. You know and he's one of the scored the game yeah. Blah called the timeout though I mean they he was on the field but they call the time out and they could have obviously put in in McCoy and they stuck with their William so I think they trust them a little bit more in terms of in terms of pass protection and understanding of the Games so it's still going that'd be a committee there between McCoy and whichever Williams is healthy okay matthew. Let's get some of these calls. Here's Lewis in Riverside Louis. What's your question for Matthew Berry and so I got Tom Brady and have also owned. They've both got good matches. What do you think man. I thought I believe Matthew before for you. Answer Lewis's question. Is it safe to say that you should never ever bench. Patrick mahomes no matter what I can't imagine doing that I I understand. He didn't anthro touchdown pass. It's still better than Brady was last week and there's no question. Brady has an amazing match against my pathetic redskins but I can't ever imagine clicking bench on Patrick. mahomes either can't imagine doing that so I mean I my honest answer. Lewis I think he said his name was. He's like start working. The trade wires start like you should not have both guys on your team yeah. I'm in that boat to one of them. Okay here is advance in Orange County ad van. What's your question for Matthew Berry. They were going on how you doing. What's your question. I got a question I got running back Harris so on my I got Mr Austin Exeter and Allman and Jason James White. Oh those are three good backs right Gaughman James White and Austin Cler Matthew. What do you do with that James White Austin Ecuador and Wayne Gaughman so oh Goldman's the guy. I'm benching this week actually look. It's always tough with James. White obviously because of the way it goes but I think he'll again. I think you starting everyone against the redskins. there a gunman really nice game but they're playing the vikings really tough defense in Minnesota government I think could he gets in passing in game involvement. He could your banking on volume there with Gaughman but of the three of you can't imagine benching actor even though Gordon's back. I can't imagine benching just it yet so Goldman bench three. Here's some wrap. We'll try to sell high on Gaughman. Upcoming schedule is pretty brutal. Okay here's some rapid fire on twitter Kevin Ramos Brady or reset Brady forty niners defense or eagles defence the Eagles defense at at home against the jets Ricky Amend as Daryl Williams or Matt Braida I'm GonNa go with Daryl Williams for now but again if Damian Williams exactly then you're going to Breda but that's the Monday night game so you'll know in time derelict. That's the exact same question Jacoby percent or Philip rivers. boy believe it or not. I think I'm GONNA say Jacoby. Bruce set the over under in that game is fifty seven against the chiefs. He knows you're. GonNa have the throw to keep up. Jacoby percent the only quarterback in the NFL to throw multiple touchdown passes every game this year crazy stat chargers play in Denver Yeah I. I actually think overfill. Would you trade Hollywood Brown for Stefan digs boy. That's a tough one seem fair yeah. I think I'd still probably rather Stefan digs system. I understand they're passing games disaster but it's a much more narrow targetry. I think Lamar Jackson completed passes to nine different different guys on Sunday now. Here's Amelio in southgate. Hey Melia. What's your question for Matthew Berry. Hey guys should I start James Connor or Melvin Gordon. I'm starting James Conner assuming he's healthy again like it came out today that he had an ankle injury. I don't know how serious it is but assuming both are active and healthy. I prefer connor to the unknown workload of Gord so matthew. I'll let you promotes. I'm here in a second but I want to ask a general question for you. You're so nice to handle all these questions that we throw rotate every week. Do you get these in your like everyday life like if you go to corner bakery or you go to the supermarket to somebody go hey matthew. I love your work. I don't want to bother you and then he was one of these this or that a hundred percent and like I should be so lucky as to get the hey matthew. I don't WanNA bother other us. I sometimes I get that but a lot of times it's just literally like a Juju dude would you were adamant or whatever I mean and sometimes they're using it like they recognize me and they WANNA say hi but they don't want to quote unquote. You know be like a fan boy so it's sort of a way to break the ice but they're literally times where people just say stuff like that to me. I like literally two weeks ago when the the news about Antonio Brown came up before the Patriots released him but you know after the SL article had come out before the Patriots released that weekend like I was at the movies with my wife and I'm like I'm going to the bathroom. I like getting that. She's GonNa take. I'm just walking into the bathroom. As I'm walking the bathroom. A Guy who's walking out literally looks at me and just goes. What are we doing about. Ab What's going on and I'm like can I just urinate breakdown. Antonio Brown's legal legal situation. I mean like so yeah it. Does that happens a lot. hey lasting asking for a friend. Tyler Murray or Jacoby perset. You know what I'm a kyle apologised. I'M GONNA say Cuyler Murray. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA Follow Matthew into the abyss on that one man i. I'm a column early. Look there you know on the Road Cincinnati. It's it's such a it's such a brutal defense. I like both guys this week but I think the rushing upside of Kyla Maria is what gives it to me. They're working people like like you're. You're on many platforms. Where would you like to see a little more traffic. What do you want people to check out this week. ESPN fiene plus of course where the fantasy show is boomer TJ or back with NFL Primetime Payton's places lots of great stuff just five bucks a month of the fantasy show we do four episodes a week for ESPN plus plus fantasy football now Sunday mornings ten am eastern seven Pacific on ESPN two and by the way check out the fantasy life APP it is one hundred percent free are alert alert absolutely crush any other alerts were at four point eight stars on the APP store so just go to execute APP dot com download it for free. Just try it. I promise you trust me. It will change your life if you hate it. You don't like it deleted in three days. Whatever it's a free APP doesn't exactly man good advice. I swear you will like this APP. It is the alert alerts. If nothing else absolutely just crush I by the way matthew I know you have millions of football games to watch just giving you a heads up because I know you're a Laker Fan Yeah Lakers warriors at the new chase center Saturday night on TNT so check it out five at five o'clock. Pacific eight o'clock eastern on Saturday night. I'm there all right. I bet thanks for coming on. Thanks man hit a guy. There's a time when we come back for the Damian Lillard Jiaxing before fast grab the Lillard versus shack thing and and then we're going to get to fast track. five o'clock is the wildcard game nationally wildcard game. It'll be Washington versus. Milwaukee and you'll hear it here on. ESPN LA all right my buddy Jacob Aronie has got great advice for everybody listening right now there are more than six million uninsured motorists in actually actually more than six million cars in our region accidents happen every single day and not everybody is car insurance so what happens when you're in an accident with somebody who doesn't Carry Carrie insurance unless you have protected yourself. You'll be in a bad spot Jacob wants. Everybody listened to this. Check your car insurance coverage talk with your insurance sage. Make sure you have uninsured motorist so if you're hit by somebody who doesn't have insurance you got protection on your policy that will pay your medical medical bills. If the other driver isn't insured you can buy yourself tens of thousands of extra coverage usually for just a little extra per month. Take wants everybody to know that that even in the event of an accident with an uninsured motorist you have rights check with your insurance carrier to ensure your properly covered and if you were injured for three consultation call Jacob Eight four four twenty four Jacob that's eight four four twenty four Jacob Cup eight four four thousand four Jake Remembering Moving Vehicle J. College all Jacob Dot Com Mason Ireland. ESPN MANOHLA okay. We got a couple of minutes. Don't forget if you want to be part of the Steve Mason Roast with with throws master John Ireland. It's coming up October eleventh at Commerce Casino text the Word Roast to four zero seven zero five that is rost to four zero seven zero five roasters include ochej Jackson Junior Momo. The candidates brothers our old friend Dave singer and maybe maybe a couple of surprise guests and according to Bergman seating is limitless yet. If a hundred thousand people show up Bergman says they will fit into the Commerce Casino Casino and he's the only one that thinks that no one hundred thousand people go in there then they'll just be going out into the casino and that's fine but people you can go you can be realized that because he could not hold hold one hundred thousand hits me but I don't think one hundred thousand I disagree right now. There's over nine hundred entrance that are completely the separate nine hundred hundred people okay and we've got room for I think fifty three now and thousands and thousand people explain clean to me this rap battle okay so shack started the whole thing shock and Damian Lillard as you mentioned earlier is probably the best athlete rapper rapper there is he could do it for a job even if he wasn't a basketball player. Yes he's that good so for some reason shack decided he was going to take on Damian Willard in a distract curious think looking at it like real revenue James. The daddy come out of retirement discipline show our time to we saw joe stroke. The chef won't go check in the morning. When did you Tom Not a problem. Talk shows yeah better. Advocated Tesla responded was very upbeat. It's really important thirty. I wonder whether I was in it was reported Sir the governor of chairs Chief John Cage it was so there's some of the highlights the some of the money when it comes to shack. Did you see my MVP's. It's a trilogy MVP candidates. You are not one you never be Westbrook. Never be Steph Curry. what's in your Wallet Mastercard or Visa Reza talking like you're Braun. You ain't even Trevor Aretha got enough cash. I could buy your whole team oops. I forgot I own the Sacramento Kings. Call me when you get a back to back to back to back. You want to be a rapper. RAPPERS WANNA be like shack. It wasn't bad shall always entertaining Yup. I have a feeling Ling and I have not heard but I have a feeling dame came back. Hard came back hard golly. They say he bought the crap. Beat them like brackish. Season Jefferson is newstalk hit space jam not blow tips hangman Thanks thanks some big name. Twenty bags purchase then avery like a freak thing broke in Kobe. I see how the Msci you manage my existence to the business take chicken. Nothing always nothing nothing. You could do it with me. This light with Tom. Hanks trump's town do it for the fame ain't no magic. Kazan's flexing for the grant one of Mental Whitney steals personalities will give veal contributed to pass the torch without your brother was busting off the porch. Look I would not challenge Lillard Joe rap battle. I fill the tank up with diesel. You're jealous and I can see a Kobe. Bring you them rings. Kobe you and the La- I love the last night look inside this you at staples find a corpse. Was this organic or was this part of a TV show. Dame dissed shacks wrapping was an podcast he did it was on the way checking back. Chat came back with the district and then dame came back with that early today. I'm I'm all for more distracts. Yes tracks are fun coming up next as fast track. I get questions from macy's got it for me. We're out here early today. Five o'clock the National League League Wildcard One game playoff. It'll determine who plays the dodgers starting on Thursday. It'll lead to be Milwaukee the brewers or Washington the nationals and we'll l'egypte at five Mason and Ireland E._S._p._N. L._A.

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Hour 2: Quarterback Chaos

"The x. games are getting underway for the twentieth straight year from aspen tonight and they are on espn and the ten thirty eastern. We will have men's ski superpipe with alex for looking to win gold again this year and the wendy's snowboard knuckle hawk encore everyone in aspen so excited to have the x. games back and better than ever again this year and we are excited to bring you hour of get up jam packed as always football friday alive from the seaport district appear seventeen. We are brought to you by chase. The crew is revved up and ready to go. Here comes the menu. It's time to get up with sean. Who wants to hack out of houston the race is on. It is the biggest trade in nfl history and it might be right around the corner. Meanwhile that is not a done. Deal that this legend. We'll be back in pittsburgh. We'll tell you exactly what stands in the way in steel town. Tony romo pouring gas on the fire of the number one debate as we steve toward super sunday all that and more football friday as we get up with you starting right now with the biggest story in the sport as first reported live here. Get up yesterday by adam. Schefter to shawn. Watson has officially asked the texans for trade telling shefty that watson made the request two weeks ago and that the hiring of the new coach david. Kelly will not alter his thinking. Now we just came across this the last half hour. Browns fan site daily tweeted that the browns should consider making a move and trying to acquire the shawn watson baker mayfield himself on his verified account. Quote tweeted that and responded. Some of your browns fans are funny so give it at least this much. He doesn't have a burner. he put his name on it. He put his blue check mark on it. And he responded. So let's come to the group here. There's so much in this. I would like to unpack. But let's just start with dan orlovsky. I feel like it's an obvious question. Would the browns be better off with the shawn watson baker mayfield baker on love bakers. Penny sunscreen this is like this is like chris- christmas chronicles to purchase christmas. Chronicles one one was really good. It was better. This is like koba and chipotle kobe. Kobe is better cheese in goldfish. Cheeses are good. Goldfish are just better baker mayfield. Good to sean watson's just better. This is. This is an arguable thing to talk about. I feel like the next hour on. The do is trying to get people to understand remarkable shawn watson it so while baker had a really good year and he's he's taken steps forward in their organization and i've had his back and i love them to shawn watson better player in so i love his pettiness to shawn watson would be incredible griffin browns. I think we all see that right. And that's not an insult to anyone to say. You're not as good as the shawn watson. He's one of the great quarterbacks and to dan's point had one of the great seasons ever beach. Do you love baker mayfield responding to that in the public way he did or does it make you concern. Which which. Which way do you go on public reaction. It's a little bit insecurity. And i'll tell you a funny thing in the locker. We used to do if anyone messed up on the football field and they were being called out for it. They tried to explain themselves. We would all scream response. We would sell me with scream response because you were trying to explain why this is so why. This should be a different way of doing it. This way in baker is basically trying to say like. This isn't going to happen. Come silly browns fans like out on the guy. I'm baker mayfield. I'm the guy on the heisman guy on the commercials with tim tebow. That's me so. I just think that in that particular situation baker just needs to not say anything he comes out and he responds to it which. I don't get why you respond to that we'd notice. Sean is an incredible quarterback. Yes those does shawn make that team. Instantly better yes. So let's let's. I know you have the chip on the shoulder. He's you know he's he's not above six foot so he's got that complex so let's just that's just relax a little bit. Let's not respond to the people on on the on the the waves out there Graziano doesn't take any offense to that remark whatsoever. Dan take us through this. As as we consider the places. That the sean could wind up. I haven't heard anyone say cleveland. Is that something that we could see. Happening i don't think so. Look they fall into this bucket of teams that yes would shawn watson fbi an upgrade over. They have objectively yes. But they're not looking for that right. The cleveland has their guy. The guy that just one. If i'm baker mayfield just want eleven games with the browns. Like what are you guys want. This is this is. This is far beyond what you've come to expect. So why would you be looking to upgrade. And i think that's how a team like cleveland sees. The plan is to go forward with the program. They've put together and and you know what they were. They make a call and find out possibly but i. I don't think that's a likely scenario when you talk about. What a team would have to give up. You'd be overhauling your whole program. Not just your quarterback situation and right now. Cleveland doesn't feel like they're in a position where they need to overhaul things to that extent. It was actually fifty one weeks ago. Today dan orlovsky baker mayfield was sitting with us on the beach in miami before the super bowl and he was talking about his mentality and all the growth and and i think we've all give them credit he showing you all of it. He's done all of it. So i'm torn between loving the fact that he responded the responded to this tweet and wanting to say baker. Don't do that. It is in no one's best interest. Which way do you go. I love it. Baker mayfield has told us time and time again. Who baker mayfield is. He's not to player. he is because he's not confident in himself. He's probably overly confident in himself. That the only way that baker's going to have success. So i have no. This isn't like him taking a shot at shawn watson. This isn't him responding to somebody as a player. That said something about baker mayfield. This is interesting. Like browns fans on your quarterback. I've proven myself to your quarterback whether you think to shawn's better not on your god. I told you. I was guy to combine when i was coming out. I told you that i was the person to fix our organization. I've done that. And i'm the guy that is going to get us to the super bowl at some point and so that's just bakers mindset. Is i absolutely love that about him. I'm never will not okay. I get it. And i see it the same way for the most part. Okay anyway. we'll see. It doesn't seem like that's one of the real possibilities but you never know. There's probably does get settled in the next few weeks. Let's go on the clock. A bunch of other things we can get to here in rapid fashion. Dan orlovsky i will start with. You gonna put thirty seconds on the clock. Is there a team out there. Who is right now. Matthew stafford away from being a super bowl contenders thirty seconds on the clock for your old teammate. Dan orlovsky kgo the san francisco forty niners me at the san francisco forty niners get matthew stafford. They all of a sudden pulp to one of the. If not the top team in the nfc pieces defensively backed up. Hurt this year call. Ns three the top. Five with three different style. Quarterbacks none of them as talented as matthew an offensive line that needs to get a little bit better. But george can we know about this receivers in a playcaller. That's fantastic. If the san francisco forty niners get matthew stafford become one of these super bowl favorites because of the talent that he brings the spirits that he brings so many teams. We get better when it comes to. Struggle is matthew now no question. I agree with that. And that's one of them. They they could be a contender with a lot of different. People aren't the next question is for rob niche. Negoti you envision a scenario realistically in which aaron rodgers this offseason forces his way out of green bay thirty seconds go no. I don't see that happening. And i think everyone has to understand that. His postgame comments that he made right after a huge loss. Come ten to fifteen minutes after one of the worst losses that he's had in a long time in the playoffs. He's thinking back on all the time that he is committed to this team and he's upset so he comes off the field. He sits down at his locker. He's taking his cleats off. He's getting himself ready to go. He's got reporters asking them questions. I think at that point he was upset and he said some things that he didn't mean then he thought about it and then of back on what he was saying. I don't think he goes anywhere. He's going to be in green bay interesting. We should be getting word out of there this week. About how the meetings that he had with upper management may have gone meanwhile grazziano. Let me come to you. Are we living in a world in which the cowboys trading dak. Prescott is actually on the table. Thirty seconds stand go. We are not greedy but there are things that happened that changed the world. Sometimes it's possible that the next five or six weeks could change the cowboys perspective right now. They are adamant as they have been all along that they believe dak prescott is and will continue to be their quarterback. They want to sign him to a long term deal. They have tried and failed each of the last two off seasons but they think they can get it done this year. If they can't if they can't and they have to franchise them again at thirty seven point seven million dollars and confront the possibility that he would leave at the end of the year. You'll get nothing in return than they have to think about other options your sign and trade is expression we usually use in the nba but it exists in the nfl at has happened and it could happen here. We'll take a short break but we have so much still coming in this hour steelers. They want big ben bad he wants to come back. But there is a huge factor. That could get in the way. And we'll tell you exactly what that is plus tony. Romo pouring gasoline on the brady mahomes goat debating. Wait till you hear what he's saying you will next get up on. Espn we're back on. Get up with all the talk about the shawn watson. Let's talk about another quarterback with an uncertain future ben. Rothlisberger who's cap hit for next year is over forty one million dollars in that is something that the steelers president art rooney. The second knows isn't going to work. But we've been up front with band and letting him know that we know we couldn't have back under the under the current contract and so think he understands. We have some work to do there. I think that those are discussions. We'll have with van and his representative and and obviously it takes two to figure that out and whether we can agree with what he wants or vice versa. We'll we'll just have to see the band himself told ed bouchette of the athletic. I want to do everything. I can and made that very clear to them from the very beginning. It was basically my idea to help the team. However i can this year he added quote. Doesn't care about my pay all this year and that interesting so there's a lot of different ways to unpack this and let us start with dan. Orlovsky are the steelers best suited by having ben rothlisberger on the field. Next year if their goal is to try and win a championship next season. Yes if they can't get shawn watson matthew stafford you know if their choices big ben or maybe a first round rookie. Then yeah big ben. And i think that's the question. The steelers have to ask themselves as relation. Do they truly believe that. They're a chip inch caliber football team championship next year. If they believe that. Then yeah big ben. If you can't get those two guys if they fit sit sit there and think that they're just good. The nation move on and they should address their quarterback of the future situation. Because the cost of big bring back. Big ben is gonna have long term impact on who they can have under team but do pre juju smith schuster james. Can they bring those guys back while also bringing big ben back those guys can have impact under future two three four years from now big ben can't and so they think they can win a championship. Great have been. But if they don't and i don't think they can't because they're choosing cleveland. They're chasing baltimore. They're chasing buffalo and they're chasing equal with indian miami and obviously chasing. Kc if they don't think they can the need to move on and the meantime let's just focus in on the immediate rob nicovic earlier on this. Show bart scott was describing. Ben rothlisberger particularly towards the end of the year is a guy who was quick to the check down not willing to take the heads not pushing the ball downfield. None of the things that made ben rothlisberger the hall of fame. He's going to be. Do you see that on the field. Do you believe he is their best chance to win next year. I think he is their best shot of winning next season. But you gotta look at kind of what they were doing this season as well with their offense of line having the injuries that they sustained. They're not having a running game. I think think fact early ben rothlisberger. They had jerome. Bettis as you're running back the set the tone early running the football So they have to address other issues. you can't just put the ball in ben's hand expect them to throw it fifty times and you're gonna win these football games. They need some balance. You have to run the football. You have to have a balanced offensive attack. You can't just drop back like the like. He's been doing this season and having those injuries that the offensive line having a thirty nine year old quarterback if they want to compete next season against cleveland against the teams that they are chasing. It's really hard to do that with a young rookie quarterback. I agree with dan. What he's saying if they don't get if they try to get a veteran guy like staffer because i feel stafford increases helps your team instantly. He comes in. He helps your team. So i think that if they want to win next season they have to do with ben roethlisberger and then they need to find that bridge guy. Have a young quarterback come in learn underneath. Bend in the meantime to where they can move on in a couple of years when benn is forties. I don't know if they consider dwayne haskins to be that guy and he was a first round pick two years ago and he is there. In the meantime dan graziano. There are any number of other considerations that are gonna play a large role in how this thing works out right yes. Steelers is projected to be significantly over the cap if the cap is one hundred and seventy five million projected to be thirty. Three million over so when ben rothlisberger says he'll do anything he can is current cap numbers forty one and a quarter million the lowest. They could possibly get that for this year is about twenty. Three million doesn't solve all their problems and they still haven't dealt with key free agents like juju smith schuster and bud. Dupree guys like tj and. Mika fitzpatrick that are going to need extensions. Very soon rob talked about the offensive line. They could lose marquees pouncey to retirement. They have to fix some things on that line which played very poorly this year. A lot of issues with pittsburgh even if they can figure out how to get ben roethlisberger back for the lowest possible number next year. It doesn't fix all the issues. They have to stafford feel like a real possibility there. Dan i don't mean necessarily call on your friendship with him. A dan orlovsky. I'm sorry but that's not what i feel like. I've heard much. I feel like a real possibility. You know doesn't it doesn't feel like a real because again i think the team that go get matthew stafford or at least are entertaining conversation to get matthew stafford teams. That think they can win a simple next year but they got this one or two year you to go win the super bowl and they've got an incredibly creative gm to try and go swimming in take their shot and others teams always working in the dark. But i don't see stafford and pittsburgh it somewhere else. I see him at some house. That is a super bowl contender next year. Right we will say that's obviously another the huge questions around the nfl. We're spending this whole morning in search of those answers coming up we'll tell you exactly. Why the shawn. Watson had the greatest season that was wasted in. Nfl history really may never have had a better season on a losing team in the history of the sport. We'll give you the numbers and then we'll give you this and hembo going head to head. Who is the only player in nfl history with an mvp and two titles through the age of twenty five patrick mahomes could be. The next was the only one who's got it. All graziano looks concert at kind of space. We'll see if he's right next get up on. Espn we're back. Dan graziano look very confident that he knows this answer dan. Who was the only player in nfl history with an mvp and two titles through the age of twenty five thinks he's slick because it's a trick question. Everybody always thinks quarterback. Gotta be quarterback. But i know there was a time when it wasn't always a quarterback that won mvp and there was also a time when the dallas cowboys will used to win. Super bowl the answer to this question is emmett. Smith that is correct. Your confidence was well taken. Emmett smith won the titles at ninety two ninety three he was the mvp ninety three. You own hembo. There's no other way to look at it. Patrick mahomes could be the next to do it if he wins next sunday. So on the season hembo. Six graciano five but candidly. the norm van brooklyn. Question does not count coming up. Tony romo poison gas on the fire of the number one debate in the sport as we steam toward super sunday. That's on the way this is get up on. Espn so i imagine there were probably several people who are wondering why it is that the shawn watson is so dead set on getting. His situation changed and moving his way. Out of houston. And so if you are one of those who was wondering that let me help you. Why might sean be frustrated enough to force his way. Out of houston. There are a lot of reasons some of which you could see on the field. That's unpack those. it starts with. Just how good. He was this year and the whole history of the sport. There are four quarterbacks who completed seventy percent of their passes for eight and a half yards per attempt over a full season. Joe montana steve. Young and drew brees did it once in all of those three seasons. Their teams won the super bowl. Watson just became the fourth. His team went four and twelve. How could that happen well. First of all they couldn't run the ball at all. They're running back. Said the fewest rushing yards in the league and then their defense was unimaginably. Terrible over the fifteen seasons. Espn has been tracking defensive efficiency. This year's texans were four hundred seventy eighth out of four hundred and eighty teams. That is why franchise legend. Jj watt apologized to his quarterback after the last game of the season remember to this is the franchise that traded away deondraye. Who was first team all pro. Three straight seasons with watson hopkins went to arizona and caught one hundred fifteen balls this year. Now the texans have very little opportunity to add talent. They don't draft until the third round this spring. Because they traded to ones and a two to miami for laremy tunsil and the franchise other legend. Andre johnson is tweeting. Warnings at sean. That was the first tweet andrea has had in two years. That wasn't an ad for something. So you ask yourself what happens now to a very large degree. The answer is whatever to. Sean wants because this team may not have listened to him a month ago but now that he has demanded a trade that is something they absolutely cannot ignore. So that's the situation on the field it goes will beyond that. We certainly know that much. So let me bring in the crew to talk about that. Here and dan orlovsky. I will start with you. We just went through the football stuff and you pointed out earlier. You played some bad teams with some good players. I'm sure they were frustrated. But never to the point that they demanded to get out. So clearly for sean. This is about something more than that way. More than football. This is about the sean soul. Like this is about the shawn watson the person this is the same person that when he was growing up work done in many ways saved his life saved his family. This is the same guy that when he did sign. His contract extension got emotional talking about his family in the impact in the support from his family. So this is a guy that players in the nfl revered shawn watson as a player and they look at greater as a person so once you cross that line to him as a person that you've disrespected him as a human being. That's when he has these feelings that there is no going back. And i said this greenie like the. Nfl should look into this. what happened. what exactly happened. Or what was said or communicated that got him to the point where he said. I do not care what is going to take for me to get out of houston. I am dawn. The nfl needs to look into it because other free agents coming. They're calling their agents going. I don't wanna go. Houston after watching what they did. Just just did shawn watson. I've heard the same that you have bart scott. What do you make of all this. Well i mean. I think they let bill. O'brien hold the organization hostage and really run it into the ground on his way out and i'm from the same area watson is from you know we all know what story we know that were done. Gave him a house for humanity for him and his mom. We know we know about that. But you guys had a from places where are from want respect and he wants to respect of the ceo of that organization and you don't disrespect somebody from the organization about traded his number one weapon without his knowledge. Let him be blindsided. You don't go out and then in turn say hey. I'm going to include conversations and then not include them in the conversation you didn't have take his recommendations which understanding let them feel that he was being heard that his voice has power now. We can imagine tom brady. We can imagine all the premier quarterbacks aaron rodgers going on saying hey let me let me know what's going on and keep me involved in it and it's about the mirage about the mirage. The do have if you sell him. He's going to be included in. You have to actually listen to some recommendations whether you hire who he wants to hire. Not yeah look. I mean i. Respect is the threat of commonality. Aaron rodgers they went out and drafted his eventual replacement last year. And we see the problems that has caused robin and give rich. What do you think unfortunately not the first time in its. It won't be the last that a player has been lied to. I've been lied to. Bart's been lied to dan's been lie to when you're a football player these coaches and management. They're just they're just waffen yup and they're gonna tell you what you feel like. They want you to hear to keep you happy. And and i think at this point You can't put everything on billy. Oh it's got to go up to the owners to because the ownership level was the one that said. Hey you're going to have some input in the decision. And then he went out and he hired a gm. So i think at this point he's just done and when someone tells you look i'm done with you. I'm done that cuts deep. And he's upset and granted. He should be upset. Listen and i will tell you this too but cook. Go ahead bart bill. O'brien well to general manager. He's the one that made those traits. He's read they don't have any salary cap space he's don't have over. He's the reason to have no draft picks. Rob not give it the former patriots. Just doesn't make any difference. What they do and i can talk conference today. How about this. There's a news conference in houston today at noon. Central time to introduce the new coach. Can you imagine what the questions are going to be there. Every one of them is going to be about to shawn watson. so there's that situation then of course there is the super bowl in nine days. Let's talk about that because one of the greatest quarterback match ups that we will ever see is on the way. I in fact. I've said it is the best quarterback matchup ever brady vs mahomes. It's the goat versus the future. Go and yesterday tony romo. We'll be calling the game for. Cbs shared these thoughts on the matchup quote. There's a chance patrick. Mahomes playing this game to climb the ladder if mahomes winslow keeps that door open as far as becoming the goat. If tom brady wins. I don't know how anyone can top him. Tom brady is the greatest who has ever walked. And we are in the super bowl with the one guy on earth that most people would agree could possibly one day fifteen years from now. Come into that stratosphere. I'm telling you this game will be talked about forever. He knows how to sell a flight. Promo does but frankly there's very little in that to disagree with. So what do you think dan orlovsky. We've had some pushback on that notion this week from jeff saturday in particular about the idea. That mahomes is the future go. Do you think that this is goat against future goat next sunday. yes absolutely. I don't know what the heck jeff is talking about either late. We can't we can't have an opinion of who the future grades of all time could be like i know he said there's either go or not. Go polite we can also entertain the guys that have the potential to do it. I would say that when it comes to this weekend. Mahomes can't catch. Tom brady when it comes to. Super bowl wins if he doesn't win this weekend and he also cannot be the goat. If he doesn't catch tom brady. If that makes sense he's not going to be able to surpass in everybody's eyes. Tom brady is the gulf unless he chases download super bowl championships. That's just the reality of how we look at the quarterback spot when it comes to career accomplishment so this weekend is bigger than just the two thousand twenty super bowl champion. Let this weekend's winter this coming. Weekend's winner is going to determine if tom brady is sitting at the top. And no one's gonna chase him down or pack. Mahomes has next weekend. If patrick mahomes has the actual chance to go chase down the greatest of all time when it comes out. Because i'll say this if he wins this weekend and i think he will. He's going to go chase down. Tom brady six sls. Rob nicovic think you'll get. You won two super bowls with brady. What do you think is at stake here as far as the legacy of these guys. Yeah i mean. I agree with what dan sane is. Super bowl wins. And this is a matchup. Where if he does win. This is going to have to unders belt. He's got a few more to go. I think the i understand where saturday's coming from as well like. How do you talk about a future goto if he if there is the goat. How do you even say future goat. I i understand a little bit. What he's saying what he's talking about that but you have to understand to be the goat. You have to win in your twenties in your thirties and tom's doing it in his forty. So you have to be at least ten super bowls. i mean. that's that's like the at least ten super bowls and he's got six super bowl victories. Tom brady if pat mahomes wants to surpass. He not only has the play well into his late thirties early forties. He has to be at or above. The levels of super bowl wins and super bowl appearances. And he's he's young he's young and he's been he's gonna be the two so he's got a long way to go to surpass. The things that tom brady has done. Grazziano your one. Whose job is to chronicle these things. What do you think is at stake in this match up to tony. Romo's point it's it's sort of like a division game right where you can either gain games or lewis two games at the same time if he loses then. He's two years further behind where he needs to get to catch brady so and if he wins obviously he picks up he kind of doubles that up. So that that's the way to look at it. But yeah i mean. Look to rob's point. What brady's don't redefine it right before brady kimball on. Who was the greatest of all time. We probably would've said. Joe montana for how much one brady has taken it to a different level with how long he has performed at this level. And i think that's where mahomes is looking into the future for maybe a chance if things continue to someday get their the aging champ. The young contender reminds me of the barbershop scene from coming to america rocky marciano. Joe louis. Marciano won that fight. If joe lewis had one it would have changed the dynamic. If brady wins this game it goes beyond debate. Coming up the lambeau leap. I'll the packers can make aaron rodgers a happier man plus is all the offseason quarterback chaos. Good for the nfl. We're talking about that as we roll on. It's a football friday on. Espn boy there is a lot to unpack this. Don't go down this legendary side psychotic much like the three men. I'm sharing the screen with you are hi. I'm high all life. i hate both. y'all get adult. I cut my hand and yet he ryan. Tom brady did a great job rushing the passer yesterday and covering guys. He called a great game on the defensive side of the ball. He said to me you've ever seen in a man's i when he's about to go kill. I said no. Obviously i've never tear rods. Go go out go outside and say hey baby. I'm going to get a pack of cigarettes when the cornerstore. Y'all ain't never go see that man again. There is no upgrade. Football wise aaron. Do whatever the hell wants because his aaron rodgers dance yelling like even relax. He can do whatever he wants to. Listen this after dan for one yet if i not kill let them walk for like a fourth round pick. Don't see your face right now. Speaks for hold. Been a fun week here on get up. We thank you for coming along for the ride and our weakened tits off with some of the nba biggest ours on espn tonight. Yonathan the fox. Taking on zion. And the pelicans that's at seven thirty eastern. Don't miss the utah. Jazz squaring off against luca and the moms are nba friday coverage starts with nba countdown at seven eastern. And with that we welcome you back to our studio agreed with you on. Get up with your commercial free for the next thirteen minutes jam packed as we work our way. All these quarterback questions on a football friday and then top of the hour. It's time for. I take on. Espn and they'll answer these questions. Can the steelers win the super bowl if they bring back big ben. Plus what is the best situation for shawn watson. Join stephen max and molly coming up next and i try very hard not to talk about what i'd like to see happen. And then my daughter goes in sells me out on twitter. Yesterday my daughter tweeted a picture of the shawn watson and the jets helmet and said. Please let this happen. I haven't seen my father truly happy in like eleven year. Let the record show it was. It was really more like okay. She she got to the point. So let's make this happen all morning long. We've been going through different franchises that have been mentioned prominently in shawn watson sweepstakes and here to represent the new york jets is our own bart scott the former jet. So give me the pros and cons. If you're shawn watson of the new york jets as a possible destination well green and previous segment. You heard you heard michael. Mike mike t say hey well you know look at what. The dolphins well dolphins the year before they were the new york jets. So now you have opportunity come to a place. That has a blank canvas. you'll think about the have tremendous salary cap space. Have the ability to go out and acquires much. Talent is needed. they are allowed to shine. Wasser departed a decision making some that he didn't get in houston and it allows them to feel that roster up to his strength. Also you think about them getting mike. Leflore have an opportunity to have that quarterback freely offense. They they go back and they have opportunity to fill the roster with guys like zach ertz. They can go on and get kenny. Gala day they can go out and get a guy like And he automatically becomes the best quarterback within the division everybody divisions looking up to him saying. Hey this is. The standard is the gold standard division. He has an opportunity to do all those things or any. He has a blank canvas. He can get tremendous talent around him. He has tremendous left. Tackle me but the only problem thing you have to worry about green i would say the only con is the fact that this organization that has been dysfunctional. But i think you have tremendous confidence and robert sala. You have tremendous confidence and joe douglas. And what he was able to do and one year of having a draft he s tremendous drought capital to improve this team through the draft. But also through free agency funded shawn watson to come to new york. We wanted a biggest stars. I'm still living off. Damn can't wait. What can you imagine what he can do in the heights so he can take this organization. You know sitting here in the new york area. Being a number one athlete hanging out hanging out with john hanging out with james on his best friend. They continue to keep that friendship and make the great migration up north. I i like it so we did pros and cons for some other teams earlier and these are those for the jetson. This is incredibly ironic. Because earlier we asked mike tantamount to play the role of miami dolphins. Gm he was that once. And now. i'm asking you to play the role of new york jets. Gm and you were. That wants to so if you're in that seat right now where we're joe. Douglas is currently sitting. What is your sales pitch to john. Watson i really like. We're bart started greenie but i go much more big picture. We want you to come to new york city and be derek jeter. We want to talk about it. All time legacy. When you went in new york you went forever. They're still billboards. A bill parcells and phil simms. And when you could go down as a great new york hero and talking about guys like ally manning and derek jeter and that's going to be you too sharp watson and we're going to be able to do things off the field for the next twenty thirty forty years. There's no place like the nfl and there's no place like the nfl new york and to bart's coin. This team is loaded with draft capital. Get good young. Hardworking teammates for you and the pen is going to be in your hand and you're going to write an incredible script right here in new york. You think part of this would be part of the appeal of this would be if the texans decided they liked the idea of getting sam darnold back in return. That's obviously up to them. Bart scott super-quick. Sam darnold going to have a big. Nfl career he goes to the right place right circumstance. Are you interested in darnold. If you're houston absolutely believe that does sound. Donald has tremendous career tremendous potential. He just has to get to a good organization. And i don't know right now if houston's a good organization but he'll have opportunity to change the narrative agassi sam darnold san francisco. I can say indianapolis as well. He's definitely be a valuable piece. They decided to know the direction. Either the draft through free agency. We'll see what ends up happening. I will say this my family social media if the jets wind up getting to shawn watson is going to be lit high another quarterback with his future very much in question of course is aaron rodgers tuesday during his regular appearance on pat mcafee show rodgers addressed the speculation that he may want out of green bay after the comments he made after the devastating loss to the buccaneers. And this has with sean watson's news yesterday sort of gone under the radar a little bit but our understanding of the circumstances. Here is that aaron rodgers. it was reported earlier. This week was spending the entire week in green bay because he wanted to meet with the front office as opposed to just the exit meeting with the coach and talk about what he may want and see if they can sort of work this out. So dan orlovsky. What do you think he wants. A you know what the quarterbacks are interested in. If you're rogers what are you looking to hear from them before you head out to. La for the off season choosing the now aaron rodgers all week reminded us the packers and reminded the packers that last year. They chose the future they invested into the future jordan love. Aj dilip aj dylan so now. Aaron rodgers is like no no no no. No no you guys. You're gonna you're gonna invest in the nowra. Corey lindsey center. I want him back l. Czar my horton number two as a wide receiver back. Aaron jones are starting to back. I want back. You know like robert tonner certain tight end. I want back like he. He's he's the captain now and you're going to do what i want to do. And then also as you guys shows those draft picks for the future last year you're gonna take a future draft pick and invested into this year because the reality is. I think aaron's going like listen. We're really good really good but we're not good enough so you guys in this draft are gonna get some somebody impactful player. Are nick bosa then. Is going to put us over the top to make sure that we can actually make our run next year and i think you guys are. Give me what i want right now. Here's just going to see if that's what he wants. Or if he wants some assurances that they're not moving on from him after next year one way or the other bart scott. What do you think right. Because we know air rises contract. They have a natural out in two thousand and twenty two. What i'm saying. Is you trolls wrong. And robson know this better than anything. Bond air writers. I'm saying guess what you chose wrong. I want you to do something made me feel good and nothing can make me feel better than more money and more job security so yeah i wanna talk about the now i am now. I wanna talk about the future. Guess what i am. The future just like tom brady. Take you jimmy. Jean joined love in ship. Them out somewhere because he's getting in my shadow. That's what i'm saying. I like it. And that's actually the i thought i had to make. Do you think happens here. I agree with dan. I mean he's going into these meetings. Saying i need results for next season because i'm playing at an all time. Mvp level. I showed you that this season you went out and you drop the first quarterback thank you for motivating the and putting a little fire underneath me because what. I'm to new place mentally. I'm having fun. This is the. This is the best season i've had in a long time. Thank you for getting a first round quarterback and now. I'm showing you why you need to take that first round quarterback put him somewhere else. Go get me a receiver. Go get me a pass rusher. 'cause i wanna win this thing this year next year is my opportunity because we were this close. We need a couple pieces. I one hundred percent agree with dan and look. He's still playing at an all time level he at least at least has five to six more years of playing at that level. We've all seen it. You see tom brady doing it at forty three right now. Aaron rodgers can do that as well. Final thought go ahead. Who had to go you agree. You agree with dan. Would you quote me. So what you to get rid of george love because you got to think that. Listen if he can play five more years than will do his rookie contract. So i'm saying i want job security because guess what next if you decide to move on from me. All these great positions opening san francisco indianapolis dallas potentially new orleans are going to be gone. So if you say. I'm the future and let me down now or i'm leaving now in trying to get in one of these spots and you hear that the rams or flirted with him pull them some of his stuff and in some of their press conferences. That's what i think is right. I think he. He wants assurance that they're not just going to dictate when his career in green bay is done. He is going to want his career in. Green bay is done. We will see. Meanwhile great way to end it here. The quarterback carousel spinning than it ever has before this offseason seems guaranteed to offer unprecedented turnover at the position. And yesterday our dominic foxworth had this to say about those possibilities in a new look and nfl. Listen i believe that that market forces make businesses improved their behavior and improve their product. You have to make yourself a more attractive. Destination wants the players become available and can force their way out. If you're doing things poorly they will force their way out. If you're doing things well. They will force their way to your organization organizations who don't have hope fans who don't have hope we'll have hoped when their organizations get better and win they are able to attract these superstar players mostly quarterbacks interesting so i think the question. I wanted to leave it with here. Dan orlovsky is this idea of players having control of their own destinies which is much more. Nba thing traditionally than an nfl thing. You think it's good or bad for football get baffert. football dumb. Doesn't any his mentions on twitter. Like one of the things that makes football great specifically the nfl's how much fan base is hate other fan bases and hate other players like. Could you imagine barscott rooting for like eventually. Having to like root for ben rothlisberger fans of the ravens hating ben rothlisberger awesome. Like hey we get to cheer for. Ben rothlisberger are cowboys fans having a root for carson wentz or eagles fans having a root for dak prescott. Like no. I hate it. I love the fact that everyone hates the other team in other players because day in organization. Joe's them so. I think it's a terrible idea. What what do you think. But i think it's a great move i mean. I think you give teams hoping you maintains the accountable to make sure they have. They're doing responsible responsible and make sure that their team is the winner and attractive destination. I think all this movement creates hope. I think now is going to be hoping some of these other places that they can get franchise quarterbacks and that we have and all this movement listen to same thing make you laugh. Make you cross thin line between love and listen to save people that booed lebron only left cheered him when he came back and they didn't mind you know having a boom when he was in miami. It's okay loans you have my jersey on. You're the guy that i'm going to root for right. Anything grazziano. yeah. I think bart's right and dan's wrong here. I think i think both internally and externally good thing for the nfl internally. I just don't think they're going to be able to survive much longer with you know the out dated concept of treating players as commodities that they can just move around how they say no. You'll play where we tell you to play. Just don't think that's going to work for a current modern day athletes in ones that are coming in the future and the next sternly cheese. I mean the business. We're in here. This is the off season heading into talking about all this the interest level in the league. When there's this kind of hot stove activity to borrow a baseball term is just really really massive. Four league that wants to stay relevant in all twelve calendar months benefit in a lot of ways. This is what you're going to find an orlowski. I say this in all sincerity. Your kids are real young. You're gonna find as they grow up particularly with the nba and it may now become the nfl. They root for players not teams my kids root for players my kids particularly in the nba. They love steph curry. They love lebron james. They root for those and whatever team they go to that too they would for. It doesn't sound right to you and it doesn't sound right to me either. But that is the way of the future. Dan and i think it's the way or alaska final thought of the future of the nfl. I thought that i was on the panel with people with integrity. Let people that were willing to do things. The hard way and apparently graziani bart scott. Just want the easy way out that when things get tough. They're going to remind pack. Mr reinhard sweater rocking along with five seconds done that we stop talking or not. I take is next.

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01/27/2021 - HOUR 2 - Goff, Rodgers, Belichick

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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01/27/2021 - HOUR 2 - Goff, Rodgers, Belichick

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Ohio is just canned akron. But yeah that's the best. He'll be joining us in a couple of minutes. So it's interesting. I don't wanna get into too much super bowl stuff. That's what next week is for. This is friday off. you know. Talk a couple of days about the games but the brady mahomes thing is interesting. They've played four times three in the regular season. One in the playoffs there too. And into if you put the numbers up this is an old brady by the way this rating is prime. This is an older brady. This is mahomes. I think just getting into his prime for the next ten years obviously mahomes has been a much more dynamic player. They're pretty close on completion percentage. But you know mahomes. Eleven touchdowns three picks tom six touchdown five picks yards per game. Brady's actually fairly close considering. The weapons mahomes has passer rating though not close mahomes one nine Brady eighty six and again. This is the older. Tom and You know heading into his prime. Also i mean. Let's be honest malls as better weapons in a more clever head coach. Mahomes is clear the the more dynamic quarterback at this point but my guarantee for the super bowl. If i could have one is a mahomes will be much more dynamic when you watch the game. He'll make more spectacular. Plays and be tom. Brady will only win if certain things happen. Mahomes only needs to be healthy if you say. He plays four quarters. He's never heard that just could be enough. His defense could be bad. He could have two fumbles. Things could go wildly wrong and the homes can win. Brady's going to need some things to win. He's probably gonna need a special teams break. He's probably gonna need a turnover break. He's going to need his defense to really rattle mahomes. And it's possible. Because patrick is missing eric fisher and mitchell schwartz. But but my feeling is. Tom can win. I think being at home helps having a great defensive front helps the chiefs having to key injuries upfront. Hurt helps. But i don't think mahomes needs anything to beat tom. If he's healthy things go sideways he could have a pick six in the first quarter and a bad pick in the third and he could still win. I don't think tom could do that. Tom going to need things. And he may be able to generate many of those things. but he'll probably need of a blocked punt the chiefs fumble it at the eight yard line. He's gonna need a break and that's okay because we know mahomes is the more dynamic player the heard brought to you by jersey. Mike subs of above. Subs are going to be here next hour. I am hungry already. You know what. I mean talking about those things get hungry. My buddy fox sports. nfl analyst totally connected. Dave wants out now. Joining us live from naples florida. Yes i'm jealous. So i said this earlier today dave that less need the general manager in sean mcvay the coach of the rams have been very pro player but in the last month. They've gone after goff publicly and my guess is they did him a solid by signing him early. They've called his agent to redo the contract and the agent said we're not giving any money back and so they're kind of trapped futures are tied to goff. I would argue this coach. That goth is not. He's only twenty two million a year. He's won nine games with mcveigh. He's had signature wins. He outdueled mahomes. I think goth there's ten teams that may need a quarterback. I think he's got a market somewhere to you. Yes i do i think. Now personally. I think jared goff is one of these quarterbacks that can get you to the playoffs every year. But i don't know. I mean i haven't seen it yet on a consistent basis that he can win a super bowl for ya and and i'm going back to his college days. When when when when he was cowan they play utah. The best defense in the pac twelve. And the us's it was always prompt in time getting over the hump. And that's where i see him. I mean i see a make some great throws but i'll tell you what with with mcveigh. You could not have a quarterback friendly offense. I mean truly the way he you know draws it up and calls plays with the run and play action passes it. It's designed to give a quarterback that has some ability which he has success. So i think they stay with them another year and see if he can turn it around. But that's how i see it. Can it get you to the playoffs. Yes is he going to win a super bowl for ya. I haven't seen that yet. I i don't i don't see listen. In the eight years bella check hasn't had brady six of them are losing seasons and the other. he didn't go to the playoffs. Are you at least surprised at the gap in ballot check without brady and how much he's struggled. No i and i'll tell you what a lot of things that tom brady. And this is from a coaching perspective. That people don't wanna give a bill belichick credit for tom. Brady when when you look at the influence that he's had on hold tampa franchise and bruce arians has said that this guy has influenced and taking our whole franchise to another level their their turnover don their penalties. Are don doing the little things right. And i have a nephew who's in trainer at the box i mean just on a day-to-day to day basis. This is all built bella. Chuck tom brady at new england and get this whole big picture from michigan. So you gotta give bill belichick maybe not credit for thoughts ability to throw touched on it but to to be in position and put the team in position to win. That's all bill belichick. You know it's funny a there's been a lot of coaching hires a lot of them. I don't get some. I kinda like houston still doesn't have one. Is there one coaching higher. So far that brand staley young guy rams to the chargers. Arthur smith atlanta robert. Solid jets dan campbell. Detroi- which what am. I missing here. Joya primarily a couple. Is there one that you look at and you think to yourself okay. That's going to work. Is there one that jumps out to you. As oh urban meyer to the jags. Is there one you light. Yeah you just said i would say urban meyer. I mean because the rest of these guys. I mean some of these guys haven't even been in a playoff game or a playoff game or more importantly made a decision and a playoff game as a coordinator. Its fourth in one. What are you going to call you. Know i mean so i would say urban meyer and we know all the reasons they got draft picks and that they got extra cap money but i think urban meyer is gonna be able to lay out a blueprint. That's a successful blueprint. And he's going to have successor. I talked to him last week about an assistant coach that he called me about Possibly higher in and he's got the blueprint in and and he's not a micromanager he's gonna. He's going to set the foundation for the for the big picture. Offense defense special teams. And he's he's gonna. His coaches are going to do the coaching. So i think that's the right approach. He's not he's not going to be on the field trying to teach a five year all pro. How to how to get off a block and make a tackle. He's not gonna do that. Dave your record is shockingly good as a head coach in the nfl. Despite the fact you never had pro bowl quarterbacks and often in your division face to pro bowl quarterbacks so if you have a star quarterback sometimes you have to deal with some ego and stuff would you have been bothered by what aaron rodgers said after. He lost almost kind of little little blame. Game what do you make of. What what do you make of what he said. Well i think the whole green bay packer organization right now. There's what i would call friendly fire and friendly fire within a football team. I'm talking about is the defense is not enough the offensive. Turn the ball over the coaching. And there's some of that going on. I saw about leflore said he. He don't know why we were a net call on defense. It was terrible. Call when brady threw the touchdown pass before the half. Well you're the head. Coach changed the call. That's that's how i see it. But i i was not bothered by what aaron rodgers said because the emotions right now. I kind of felt the same way i mean. I was all on green bay for that game and it was a darn shame that they don't win that football game and we all know the reasons why so. I think there were some real frustration here. I think what's going to happen and would should happen if i'm head coach. I'm calling aaron rodgers insane. We're gonna sign. Yup we're gonna draft yet top free agent receiver. We're gonna get you gotta add some pieces that a foul to help him right. I mean you know they got he got sacked by a four man rush and to me. That's coaching that's kind of what the bears have gone through. Release everybody for a pass. And you've got left tackle. That's getting beat and you give them no help. Backup player wasn't his fault and they didn't. I would be frustrated too. If i was aaron rodgers. Absolutely how about that. The coach sticking up for the i like that. That's the new. Dave ones that i liked that i watched the game calling. Nobody want me to say no. It's not a priority. Listen to your show watch the game. I might have a different opinion. Okay oh yeah well let me throw this out to you. So you're very popular in chicago do you. Do radio hits your beloved. And anytime you're on the rating spike. And they're going crazy. They want a new quarterback. And you've told me before that. And i believe you. You told me a lot of things privately about mitch trubisky. You're like i can win. Games with mitch trubisky. I don't know if i can win a bunch of playoff games. But i can win games and they actually whether it was public or private or something osmosis. They took your advice because the way they played with trubisky at the end of the year was exactly what i told me in my ear for eight weeks off the air. Which is you can win games. Where trubisky just not a super bowl so let me. Just throw this out. Does shawn watson demanding to be traded. If you don watson in i could go to miami and get a great coach. I could go to chicago and get a great defense. I could go to new york and be a star. What would you choose your as agent. Where would you tell them to go. I would go someplace with a new head coach. That was going to run an offensive philosophy. That i believed in the only problem with chicago and i hope matinee and ryan pace general manager there ten years. But i mean they are on clot to win next year. And i'll tell you what these quarterbacks you can jump teams as defensive lineman and it works out quick but as a quarterback with all the adjustments you know run game pass wise checks audible signals. I mean there's so much at the quarterback position it is not easy for these guys to jump teams and to go someplace where you're not. You don't believe you're going to be there. Two or three or four years. I think would be a mistake for him. So i would look at if i was gonna leave. I was going to advise the shawn. Watson i would say we got to look at the first. Somebody believes in your office. You were talking about mr bisky. They did with mitt that gives him the best chance to be successful. but i don't think matinee really believes that that's not his offense a philosophy they did it to try to survive and which they did and they got into the playoffs. But i don't think in his heart that he believes in that system get into a system now the good stuff. I always love having the coach. On honestly dave one stat fox sports. Nfl analyst. i'm not gonna tell you where he is we. It's a secret but it's a very nice place. I'll just say that coach could talk to you. Okay always he is so connected. I in my years. I sorta god between him and jimmy johnson. They know where all the bodies are very for guys who sure as wants that a question. He'll go chief. Let me tell you. He'll either tech somebody call. Somebody has answered. Every time most connected. I've been in this business. Thirty five years never met anybody that connected you. Just hang around. Jimmy johnson a decade. You end up meeting a lot of people think about where the two of them have been first of all they dominated it miami and then they dominate oklahoma state into a then. They go to the cowboys then he goes to the bears in chicago and he knows every owner knows all and plus dave tonight guy. Everybody likes to be around him. He's one of those guys you comfortable. Yeah he's great stories. I once flew the sound so buji long story is my first day at the company so i did. My hair was all messed up. I did a michigan utah. Game was the first thing. I didn't do the show first thing i did. It was harbaugh first game at michigan right and they played utah and they flew us back on a private jet as very nice of the company and i sat next to one st. I was tired. He didn't stop talking for two out. He told thirty store at one point. I just i sat and turn to whoever. I was with the other people. I'm like it is just is what he's like every day. They're like yeah. Jj dave just tell stories and they were all fascinating why it's the best stories one more herd the herd streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you lie. He finally decided to learn how to ice skate. So you ordered the essentials. Every ice skater needs a pair of blades. A new helmet and a good set of pads. And you used your bank of america. 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Brady russell wilson saying that word or mahomes saying that word publicly. My second thing is erin. Ninety nine well not ninety nine. Ninety percent of the coverage of aaron rodgers is overwhelmingly favourable. We fawn over aaron rodgers. I mean good god. Five years ago we had one super bowl. We were calling him. The goat brady had like four or five. I mean truly if it was anyone else but aaron rodgers in that moment not running the ball. In extreme we we would crush floor kicking that field kind of just made us forget. That even happens. You know like you said it. Yesterday matt lafleur. Aaron should give a debt of gratitude to thank you note to matt lafleur because he took the hit for the loss because of that play call. Send him scotch some scotch. But i think this kevin durant is just more sensitive. Aaron rodgers is just more sensitive. Kevin durant i. Ninety percent of kevin durant coverage is overwhelmingly fawning. I've said before he's the best. I can't think of anybody since jordan that i'm like i need a basket. I would take kevin over. Just getting a basket. He's incredible but he gets very sensitive to the ten percent of negative stuff erin is. I'm considered tough on. Erin go back. And take my last fifty rants. Twenty-five or fawning over him and then about ten are calling him out for some of his. I consider kind of. He's above what he's doing a nice to call people names. I know i. He called me name. Yesterday was his typically talking to you. Felt like talking to you kind of felt like erin was. I don't think you're a db. Well i'll say mcafee. Let him get away with it. Mcafee didn't even question it. Pat journalism. Know your punter. Joy taylor with the news on the news. This is the headline news sponsored by mercedes benz the best or nothing. Well speaking of aaron. Aaron i can confirm calling is not a dvd. And i don't hate aaron and he. Doesn't you know this morning. He has a house in malibu became here i would give him an hour and i would let them take shots at me. I think erin. I on the air would be great. I wear that would be fun. I would let him take shots at me all day long. I think he's a contractual. He wouldn't do it but like i've said with baker mayfield. I wouldn't give him a whole hour. I'd give baker half an hour. They came on the show before. I would put baker on here in a second. I'd give give anybody i. Bill simmons and bob costas half an hour. I don't give half an hour. I would give or take shots at me. I don't care. let's talk when did that. Man man man men a wrench a man anyway as some comments about its future being uncertain and then he sort of downplayed speculation that he wouldn't be with the packer next season. Obviously season that. I had Potentially winning mvp and another could run. I don't think there's any reason why wouldn't be back. But look i think. There's there's not many absolutes as you know in this business i so to to make an absolute statement about something that is is not an absolute just. I didn't do it. You know. I guess. That's why i went kind of nuts nuts. I just think. I prefer as a coach. He didn't do that but i get it. I get it well. He's not wrong in that. There's no sense in speaking in absolutes. I think we'll be speaking athletes about anything. Very few absolutes in life. So i get what he's saying like why what's the point in saying. I'm his his pro. Bowl center. is pro bowl running back for free agents. He could've as nick right said what he's doing is telling his front office re sign them and pay for them. I don't think that aaron rodgers is unhappy in green bay. I agree with that. And i don't think he should be unhappy in green bay. He has much more power. Control influence in green bay. He may have in other places. Isn't it fair to say this though he can. I got about ten examples. He can do the passive aggressive things very passive aggressive. But there's ways that's how he communicates tell you that's right. That's how he doesn't. Yes like the there. I think we can safely say. That's like his tone and everything. He's a little sarcastic and that's that's just how he talks but i would like him to come on the show and kind of rip me. I'm kind of for it. I'm all for it. I really am. I like confrontation. If as long as it's not only like i like i mean joel. Klatt crushes me. Nick crushes me as long as it's not mean spirited. I would never tell if aaron sat there. I say listen. You're smart guy you're smart. You're a little passive aggressive. I would have no problem if i ran into him at nobu. I'd say that if he came up to being confronted. Aaron your little passive aggressive. I call out on well. I think because he recently had a divorce as well. Well it's mike mccarthy and he obviously had a role to play in him not being there anymore and as of as of today. it was not a bait quarterbacks. Have a right to shawn. Watson and aaron rodgers have earned the right to have an opinion. Now i would into schanz case. He's doing it publicly because it privately. It's not working right. And he probably did have those conversations privately and and denied it to them and maybe errands world. He's having him privately and they're not working either. So aaron feels like i'll drop a bomb publicly to get the ball movement and tear entirely possible. I don't have a problem with him saying that after the game either to Coach wants point. These are extremely emotional. Moments you just lost. Nfc championship game. That you just lost last year on an mvp really should have won that game and you know what you say after that game. I'm not gonna hold your emotional. Thanks for being emotional pollution. The super bowl. Here's what's supposed to be happy. I don't like aaron calling people names. I think he's a i would say this. He's above that. Yeah i like to think about too. But i still do it okay. Tom brady proven that he can win. Without bill belichick getting back to the super bowl in his first season away from new england. Meanwhile ballot check checking. The patriots are well into their off-season after seven nine year which was the worst record. Franchises has two thousand and tom senior. Brady's took a little shot at bill. He told the boston herald that he's guessing bell. Jack is on a little bit of a hot seat right now. He said that robert kraft reach out and tom after this after the game to congratulate him on making the super bowl and built it in hot seat probably straw. Maybe he doesn't know maybe he's just referring to the hot seat in the non biz traditional sense of like you know people are kind of coming at him right now and we're just like he's under a little bit of a microscope of what he's going to do next in in the biz. Pot seat means you're coaching for your job. Our job is quite secure. But robert kraft is eighty billionaires. Aren't patient how about another bad season with fires belch. I know i'm saying what a ballot check. No six and ten and mack jones is a boss draft him. You don't think crafts going to sit down and say maybe it's time the system gets revisited. I think the billionaires are not patient. They're not but that is that is dramatic to season. How about he goes. How about this. This is only happening. Because of tom being in the super bowl. Tom if tom gets to the playoffs and they lose in the first round. We're not even talking. But if a man and a woman get divorced and she. mary's elon. Musk it does make. The guy looked like a meatball. That's that's a real long musk's okay. What what if she marries a so so what so hard. He asked then mary the equivalent of us know. But if you're living in your car and she marries elon musk there will be narratives formed. You gotta do better than seventy seven to nine isn't the jets and the jags living in there okay. Miami is going to be better next year. Gentle be better next year. Bills will be better next year. I'm with you. Go is a disaster for the patriots. Six and ten next year and craft goes. I'm hiring a gm. We're not doing this thing anymore. At least i'm hiring a gm happening So i love this story so much obviously steph. Curry is no criticism. No criticism and he's turned into motivation to fuel. His career always doubted and his former teammate. Andrew bogut revealed how much attention that steph pays to his critics even during games. He's mentioned at halftime we off. He'd go on social media. He had a bad off. It would go on social media and then come out and fifty. I'm fascinated by out. It's such an amazing really. I don't understand this. Do not i tell my daughter this all the time. Don't let somebody with no life ruin yours. Skip told me a great piece of advice before undisputed skip bayless. Was that reading mentioned to be a really bad idea. Why doesn't someone is you know. This business is very specific. And i went to school for broadcast journalism. Like i literally learn how to do. All of this. And i know what i'm doing and you know what you're doing and our bosses hire people who know what they're doing so some guy in his basement tweeting to me about like the way i'm saying a word or how i'm looking into the camera like this is not what you do right so you're going to read that and then you'd like. Maybe i am doing that during this wrong george. Six four seven is right dennis miller. The comedian did monday night. Football remember that briefly yes and he had a great line he goes. I don't wanna read the critics. He goes if they're complementary. I'll get cocky. And if they're negative. I'll help self-doubt i do what i do. It lands where it lands. And i've always believed that i just do what i do. It lands where it lands and the people sign. The checks are the ones that we should be concerned about steph. I get it similar to what lebron did you. Just find these little motivation. Now that i can relate to sometimes. And i'm sure you're this way as well. Somebody will doubt you or like tell you you can't do something. I mean. definitely someone tells me. I can't do something. I am absolutely going to do. It was not a question. It's going to happen shirt. T shirt my wife wardha bad last night it said on it. Underestimate me. that'll be. Fun is my favorite thing. It's better right underestimate you. Then that's perfect. I love when people don't think i could do something now. It's all on me. I know i can do it. So you're the one who look silly when you have high expectations now. I've got to reach that. Not that i won't but it's a completely different dynamics so to steph curry's out there having a bad game and he's like not feeling it gets on twitter. Some goofballs sacramento. He should retire and he let me go. Drop thirty five. It's so great. I love it so much joy taylor with the news. Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by heard. line news. this is interesting. Decay metcalf great receiver for the seahawks was doing a podcast with brandon marshall who is on our network in the morning. It's called i m athlete. Podcast and an interesting what decay metcalf star receiver russell. Wilson's go-to guy had to say what happened. The seattle seahawks teens started to figure out We've been running deep since. Pete got their play action. Runabout runabout runabout team just said we. We are not going to go. I have to seahawks who have told me privately. They are frustrated with pete. Carroll's offense decay metcalf. Now is the third although he didn't me specifically so three of the eleven starters. Listen there are three teams in the nfl that are known as rushing teams. New england's one they have to have you seen their receivers baltimore's a second. They've quarterback at this point runs better than throws i get it. And then there's tennessee. Well they have a mountain in shoulder pads and derrick. Henry seattle is the one that wants to be the fourth why they've got a star receiver on a really good number. Two and a star quarterback. Ask yourself this. The last four teams in the nfl this year green bay tampa kansas city. Buffalo all had two things a star quarterback an star receiver await seattle to and lost a wild wildcard game. what is peak carols insistence on running the ball. This is now the third seok offensive player frustrated with seattle schemes. now. Brian schottenheimer gone. Maybe it changes but the smartest offensive coach in the. Nfl is andy reid. He has abandoned the run lots of times. Think about this. The stats amazing. Patrick mahomes has lost nine. Total games in the nfl. Nine total in those losses in those losses opponents have scored on average thirty six points. That's how you beat patrick. Mahomes going forward outscoring him. Think you're going to marginalize him twenty seventeen. It's not going to happen. The only way to beat mahomes. He is now the standard. Is gus. Go about thirty six points not gonna do that running the football. that's why. lamar. Jackson has had great success against everybody. Except patrick mahomes lamar's not currently built to win shootout against patrick mahomes could be maybe not currently. It's why tennessee long-term is not built. Probably the beat them and if seattle runs either. Will they tyler done. Nfl writer. He broke a story about a year ago. That was critical of aaron rodgers. Erin didn't love all the things in it. But tyler is a national guy packers reporter along. Td dot com td tyler done. He'll be joining us next. Big journalism award. Last time he was on the show for the year we gave a big j journalism award out. We only ever given out one me. We invented it for them. We liked his journalism so much. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific on fox sports radio s one and the iheartradio app. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. A power washer a set of patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you used your bank of america. Cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback on online shopping or up to five point two five percent as a preferred rewards member which you put towards the cost of your most is central deck addition a bird feeder apply for yours at bank of america dot com slash more rewarding copyright twenty twenty bank of america corporation all shopping for essentials online these days and you can get rewarded for it with the bank of america cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent. Cashback on online shopping essentials. The essentials have never felt more rewarding visit bank of america dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright twenty twenty bank of america corporation. Tyler dons a founder and writer at goal long. Td dot com enterprising football journalism. Go go long. Td dot com. He is our first recipient of the herd. Big j. journalism came out as somebody covering the packers and was critical of the packers and aaron rodgers and got headlines and i said sometimes in smaller markets it is hard if you're in lexington to go after john calipari. It's hard i've been in those smaller markets. Tyler done is now joining us live go. Td dot com all right. Let's start this. Covered for longtime passive aggressive as sort of his mo. I imagine you weren't shocked by his postgame comments which was a little blame gaming. I thought low low blame gamy. You're you're shocked by it. Not shocked at all this classic right. I mean this is somebody who cherishes the narrative the headline he knows the gravity of every word. He says in that setting right out of another. Nfc championship loss at any any knows what's going to happen locally nationally when he questions his own future. It's it's it's oh my god. How could you do this. Aaron rodgers how could you not throwing with weapons What is brian hooligans. Still and you have to make happy etc etc. And we're not talking about the fact that he's not what one in four and then game. We're not talking about missing allen lazard. At the end of the first epoch played a great game but he also missed touchdown made he runs in for a touchdown there before matt floors decision. That kicked so yeah. We're talking about his future instead of what actually happened very calculated. Wow that's interesting. I never even thought about it like that. So let me ask you this Listen everybody this morning's going to blame matlock floor in and and that that you know let's be honest. That may be calculating. How do you think leflore. And aaron rodgers. Get along the media now. Says it's great great great but it did feel a little stressful after that game. Do you think they get along. Great i think they get along fine. You know i'm not so sure. Data date with that relationship is really like winning cures everything i mean. They won a lotta games in publicly. Everything does seem just fine. You know. I think that aaron rodgers definitely projecting some unhappiness. Here right by saying that with that slight chuckle. Is that unhappiness because of metal floor. I'm not so sure. Is it because of brian. Good gains in the way they built this team. Not so sure it. Does he want a new contract. I mean that's something to consider here too. He sees. Patrick mahomes just got from kansas city. He believes he's at the absolute top of his game. He's got to win. Mvp maybe he wants more money. I don't know if he necessarily wants to get the heck out of dodge and be traded out of green bay. I don't think he's dumb. I don't think he's dumb. Enough to demand at trade in green bay. Because you know that for somebody that cares about that headline in that narrative the through central duty cares. Obviously you're at. I don't think he wants to do that. But clearly there's there's some unhappiness here if we're gonna take it a step further and ask. Why would he be unhappy. I i don't know. I mean it wasn't that long ago that he was really happy with the additions to the defense. Try remember. we got a defense after that went against chicago in the opener. Two years ago they did that. Developed young talent they have a lot of young talent on lazard and say. Let's face it look. He wasn't that there were some signs of the end of last season that maybe he is getting up there week. Seventeen against detroit necessarily pretty that championship. Game and the defense cow bowled over by ray moster. Rogers himself. You can justify this. If you brian new can somebody who worked under ten thompson thompson worked under on will. This is just how they do in green bay column. You know it you. You'd find your quarterback before you need one. Yeah and that's what they wanted to do here. They believe in jordan love. They don't wanna play him right right now and the cut to the chase i think. The green bay brag to just look in this. And they don't even flinch. They don't even blink they let air robbers planners contract. They tried to develop jordan love if those lines cross cross if aaron rodgers plays again vp. That's the worst case scenario. Everybody wins right it. Tyler done by the way go long. Td dot com for more information in green bay for years and years. You know they. They love their quarterback bart starr before social media far of and rodgers. But i always get hate mail from green bay. It's a smaller almost collegiate sized town. Bigger cities are more prone to accept criticism of their stars because the local media is a little harder. Do you think that. Aaron does have an occasional critic. I've said this before mahomes plays with joy trailing in games i thought aaron sometimes plays tight trailing in games. He doesn't play quite the same. Does he get any criticism in green bay packer fans that go sometimes darren. I think there are some realists out there. No doubt i mean. I lived there for a number years and They they wanna win. I the expectation is the super bowl year in year out. It's not just to get in it's to win championships. So i think he does have critics out there in you know. I think the packers do know that their actions in drafted jordan love in anything they do. If something ticks off aaron rodgers anything at all. They're okay with that. He plays his best when he's ticked off. What he's mad and what's going to get you more mad than finding his replacement drafted his heir apparent in jordan love. We saw this year. I mean he took his game to a whole 'nother level. I don't care what he says. I mean that's gonna be in the back of your head if your boss just rented to replacement we saw rotten's plan on believably. Well so i think the bryant Do accorded his homework on jordan. Love i mean he's call of david. Ios loves offensive coordinator. And they're talking forever. Getting the ins and outs of what makes jordan. Love tick so. This was an organizational decision and they know the ramifications of this. They love the unintended consequences of this. Avian is intended and look if the packers were so bad. They wouldn't have been that close to make the super bowl. This was their year to have it. That was their game to win. Tom brady threw three interceptions. You get six points off of that. They've got the weapons. Mvs led the nfl in yards per reception l. Lazard had the the game sealing touchdown the week before so back crap about no weapons around. Give me those guys over. Robert hausky stage in antonio brown at this stage. There's enough there in rebate. A win in aaron rodgers played a great game with the exception of place in other sitting at home tyler done joining us founder and writer at go along. Td dot com. Whole thing is fascinating to me it. it is yesterday. Aaron was calling Media people name stay was just a have a you know i. I only got a minute left on a minute left. But i did say who is a sounding board. He's not married apparently not title his family. Does he have i mean. Who is it sounding. Board are we. I mean you tell me when he was in green bay that he have a tight social circle of guys people. You know. I'm sure there's there's some media members no doubt and honestly i would just be guessing on that you're right. I'm not sure there is that you know direct person like we might have in our lives. I'm dan and day out to be that sounding board. It's looking Him and be mad about some of this stuff is part of what makes them great to you know. He is motivated by a conversation. Like this by anybody would have about him. Being a happy not playing. Well what have you. So it is funny. This is the number one story in sports our economy but i think at the end of the take twenty twenty one week one. He's the starting quarterback they're going to be a super bowl contender jordan level. Keep developing and. We'll be exactly where we were tyler. None the twenty nineteen recipient of the herd big j journalism award. We retired it. He was so it was like cronkite. There's nobody else in the class. Tyler for you coming on again. They said what's mccowan loved it. You bet now listen. It's it's it's just fascinating errands fascinating these different. He's very much like eighty million. Kevin durant little sensitive stuff and they don't attack it get no break when there's different personalities you do doesn't have to be the same and it's lots of great content so it is their content. Creators listened wednesdays of the slowest days in our sphere and he went and called Media people jerks and worse and so. It's a story. So i i never deny that i never deny. Someday he has a house in malibu live. I don't live very far from. We'll run into each other at some point and the only thing. I would be disappointed if aaron ignored me if he ignored me. It'd be like come on. I don't think he would ignore. I would rather have aaron. Come up and say one. Talk and be like yeah. Start yelling at me either. No problem with that. I like confrontation. I'm ready to go. I say as long as i get one shot back you get five. I got one. I actually think we'd get. We know he'll i respect. Kimi no good. I think you guys get along. I actually think we do. I really do. I actually think in a weird way in a weird way baker. And i would get along not all day but for thirty minutes our three next your favorite team as talent scouts tirelessly searching for the next big name in pro sports. An agent are blocks like that scout but searching for tax returns love those. They have tax pros with average of ten years of experience. Searching to get you the most money back guaranteed or your money back. Yeah and with h. and r. block. There's also up front and in transparent pricing. So you know the cost before you begin block is looking out for you blah cash. Your back go to. Hr block dot com to learn more hr block dot com to learn more. 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REShow: Kevin Harlan & Michael Irvin - hour 2 (02-02-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Kevin Harlan & Michael Irvin - hour 2 (02-02-21)

"Let's get into jared goff traded maurice. This is the rich eisen show. This is your super week last. Couple of years jarrett's play happened up to par the biggest game. Golf is biggest guests as a negative solid on the forty niners tight end. George kittles still takao westwood. One radio voice for super bowl. Fifty five kevin harlan. Pro football hall of famer michael irvin actor writer and director vigo mortenson and now rich is our number two of the rich eisen show of super bowl route. Tuesday version of this show is on the air. I just boxed myself into the way to actually botch the way that i opened a second look. I'm just. I'm just still very upset with the way our number one ended. We're me. I'm talking about making a trade in our fantasy. Basketball league kristaps porzingis for l. ball. I thought it was lamelo. The social media grand maistre settling into his chair. T g. t. tj. Jefferson accepts the trade knowing it was lonzo. Yes yes you did. There's a dispute commissioner. Brockman is right in the middle of right now and they sit in awkward. I don't want to be put in the middle between my friend. Who bad as you know being a commissioner of a fantasy sports league means that you open yourself up to stupidity and understand that you need to arbor renewed. Be the Unbiased arbiter and. I'm also wearing a purple cardigan and i'm very proud of that fact. And i'm getting a little grief not gonna lie from home missing. People know wow eight four four two four rich number two michael irvin's going to be calling in my hall of fame friend from nfl game morning. Eight and a half hours of our pre game show. You know who's not doing all eight and a half hours jono use me. Mooching irv raleigh napa was you know he's not doing all eight nfl. Kurt kurt warner's tapping because he's working for westwood. One well okay. Our partners it would want. Oh yeah it's not like he's going to go skip out of town. I thought he was just no no. No he's a professional he's lead pipe wielding professionally sits next to another lead pipe willing professional calling the super bowl for an eleventh straight season on westwood one. Our friend kevin harlan back on. Show how you kevin. I am great. It's so fun to be on with you. Thank you a great week. A lot of a lot of news a lot of moving parts but Great to be in the business and cover all if not mistaken. Are you based in kansas city. Is that where you are. Based as the chiefs for nine years on radio live raised our family here. We're still here and city david curse. I mean what a dream come true so you have had a front row seat obviously For many of the fifty years that they were waiting an mahomes is just this is this is it. I mean he. This is the dream come true. Is your sports fan that one day. Your team will draft an individual and just change. Everyone's lives now obviously the coach and the organization and bread. Vh and what he's been able to put a round mahomes has been pretty damn special as well. I mean he is. Could he run for mayor in that town. Kevin pretty much. We can do a lot of things in. This town is The front office has done a great job. Coaching has been You know right in lockstep with what they got with mahomes remember mahomes in the view of a lot of scouts was not you know he was great. He was you know would he be this. No i mean the chiefs moved up to get him as early and they saw something in the way that read has his playbook in what mahomes could do and what he thought he could do You know i. It's been the perfect marriage and i. I never forget the mentioned rich. That alex smith was here from homes his first year. Right and the consummate professional right and and mahomes got to watch what it was like to be an nfl quirk to routine practice. Habits study habits film work all of it and that i don't think you can talk about mahomes and the success. He has now without mentioning. Alex smith and then the perfect coaching andy reid. It's there've been a lotta contributing parts and certainly mahomes at the center of it but those guys were huge in this rocket. Start that he's well and then you just mentioned and we're where we're conversing about the reason why outside of the obvious with brady mahomes while we're so excited about this game is the fact that that brady is starting in his tenth super bowl and could win his seventh ring and on on the opening night. Show that i did for nfl network last night. There's only four athletes for athletes who have won seven championships or more and at three. Mvp wards or more. That brady would be able to join mickey mantle. Joe dimaggio yogi berra and the great bill. Russell that's i mean this is the rarefied air brady could enter. But the fact that there's mahomes at this young age doing what he's doing and read is still relatively young man for head coach even though he in arians combined the oldest coach in combination the history of the super bowl and hill and breadth each having Also kelsey sign up. It is possible that we are watching somebody who could potentially go on the run that in swin super bowl seventy something rolls around He could be doing the same thing. Brady as it's entirely possible you can't say otherwise right now in my colleague tony romo at. Cbs said this. He said this might be. And it's weird to think at twenty five but this could be the most important game of mahomes caribbean certainly in the realm and the narrative of catching break. So if he beats brady you'll have one two and usually the winning quarterback is that the mvp the super bowl. He would be on his way and if at age anything is possible but if he doesn't now brady's one seven and then in ten and And that does seem in some ways unattainable but you know the way. The league is now enrich. No one knows better than you. The passing wide open offenses creativity pushing the apple. All that stuff. This has a feel that mahomes if everything stays right health all of them just think of all. The things have got to happen to make this happen and look what happened to brady over. Twenty years the right coach right system right guys around him right culture. I mean like it's it's not just one thing it's like twenty five things that have to fall right in place for something like that to happen right and But read is just you know. Knock on wood. Everyone stays healthy. I mean readers so plugged into this kid in this kid so plugged into read and again Tyreek hill is young. Kelsey is is turned into A hothead talent right which is what he was when he first started throwing lot referee flags back at the rafts and stuff like that into a statesman. The walter payton man of the year nominee doing things at tight end that not even gronk did right. I mean this is what's happening and we haven't even mentioned this defense that Would steve spagnolo can definitely give teams fits throughout the years. So that's part of this thing. That i think is truly remarkable. Is that yes. Brady is here with areas and the box and they are in tampa. But you're watching the possibility of brady having an opportunity to derail Dynastic run or at least prevent it from starting. Now you know that's why don't you think that that back to back championships in this. Nfl this era of pro football has that as you say dynastic feel to it. Last time we had a repeat champion was brady teen years ago. There have only been. What eight or nine. Repeat champions in pro football super bowl history. You'd have to go back to the years before that when it was the nfl championship game and there were repeat champions but in just the super bowl era. We've only had what eight or nine repeat champions so it's hard to do and even har- and this is the longest span by the way from repeat champion to the next repeat we. It's always been like eight or nine years seven years couple years. It's never been sixteen. Which i think is reflective of where we are. it's free agency contracts and salary cap in all the things you've got to navigate it just it just as a very difficult thing to do but then again we've not seen a football quarterback have this kind of start. No profile. Football quarterback ever won a super bowl. Mvp has been in back to back super bowls and is one of the league mvp in his first. Three three or four years of as a starting quarterback marino was in early. But nothing like what mahomes has done. And that's what sparks. I think our conversation right. It leads you to think. Wow this could be something that could push the the goat i. It could get close to what brady's accomplish. Which again when you look at his age at forty three years in the league at twenty one and going to a super bowl in his first year and a new scheme new players. New coach knew everything that he's been able to do it again. I mean it's it's If you wrote this if you did something on and filled with you'd take that to happen but here it is right in front of us in a couple of days away in a pandemic to kevin. It's really amazing kevin. Harlan i mean you know what i mean. Westwood one radio calling the super bowl Alongside my buddy Pro football hall of famer. Kurt warner he's gonna be on the show on thursday kevin here on the rich eisen show and then again i i mean we could keep going back and forth and with all these numbers and also help ourselves to prepare ourselves for for sunday. In the fact that we've never seen a super bowl ever kevin. We've never seen a super bowl where both quarterbacks are the winners of the two previous super bowls. We've never seen that. And this is the first in that respect is well with mahomes versus brady. What do you think. Outside of all this though is going to be the matchup. I kinda hit. George kittle in the first hour about covering kelsey. And how levante david devon white have been playing out of their minds If that is going to be enough to at least corral kelsey so they could keep tyreek hill from going off in the same way that he did in the first quarter of week twelve. What do you think Is something for us to watch for in super bowl five. I like that rich. I i like the fast linebackers of tampa bay. I mean they may be the fastest in the league. And and this may be the perfect match for the quick twitch offense at the chiefs like there's no defense that can match the quickness speed agility You know all of it that the chiefs skill players have except i think the buccaneers defensively have some of those kind of guys and it begins with those two linebackers. also the to kansas city. Starting tackles are up. One guy is all pro on the right side. It's the other guy. Blew his achilles in the buffalo game fisher. He's pro bowl. And those two tackles are out. It's been a season and they. They lost duvenage tardif who opted out. This season. help the kobe cars and canada. So three starters on the offensive line of a year ago out for this year. You're tackles in your guard and all this season has been about for. The chiefs is connecting the dots. Who's healthy. Who can we plug in. How can we maneuver. And luckily they've been able to survive but can they survive a defense. That got aaron rodgers five times a couple of weeks ago in lambo. I thought the speed of at defensive tampa was key against green bay. Been doing with the running backs and with tanya tight end that they were they were covering so much areas so fast that there was very little space for them to put their fingerprints on that game in. Rogers felt it in rogers like we said it was sacked five times so you've got One of the best middle guys on the line and pro football not aaron donald light but a rising guy in via. You've got you know. Jason pierre paul. You've got guys on that line. Colston right on down the line and dominik and sue that put pressure on rogers. They put pressure on breeze the week before the number two seed and the dome. There's no way you can't think they're going to put pressure on homes with the line. That is a little jumbled up right now in tampa. So i guess. I'm watching that that defense. And what kind of pressure they put on that kansas city offensive line and i think clearly to we've got kelsey to me is a hall of fame. Tied gronkowski is a hall of fame. Tight end long time since we can say that about a super bowl. Matchup with that position is put to Imposing figures on the field in the biggest game of the year but what chelsea has done has been historic. Gronkowski has done has been historic Something tells me that those two guys will put their mark on this game in some way. Even though gronkowski's only caught a couple of playoff passes. That could change on sunday night. Kevin before i let you go. You're the you're the perfect person to ask this question too because We've been having our callers call in today. It is groundhog day And so you've called some amazing events again again. You're you're calling your eleventh consecutive super bowl for westwood one on sunday. We all know Your years of calling games Nba games on tnt. You said as well you mentioned about your time calling chiefs games and your dad was a longtime president. Bob of the green bay packers. So if you could relive like groundhog day over and over again a sporting event that you have been to or seen what would that be. Kevin harland these super bowls are pretty special The people that have sat in that seat. That i'll sit in in tampa on sunday Some of the biggest names in the business namely jack buck lindsey nelson An odd marin and barb albert. Thank you eight super bowls. So i mean we can go on and on with the names and don quickey So so when. I think about you know standing up there. When they're singing the national anthem and those planes fly overhead. And i put on that headset. I sit in that chair and look out over that field and think how can you live out. You know what i dreamt of is a little guy That you know this will actually be my twelfth consecutive super bowl. who went on. i think that I say a little prayer of thanks. And hope i do the best job i can possibly do and Feel blessed beyond measure. I feel like i've been incredibly incredibly fortunate and And proud of who i work with and and and being in this league he can call in that game. So i'd have to super bowls which is only one though kevin. This is sports talk radio. You can't just you. You can't be can't do one anything it could be any. Nba game any any any any game. You've attended as a as a kid in college or anything you've just. We can only choose one day to relive and and do it again. If it is one of the super bowls you called which would be well My dad was on the podium. When i called my first super bowl back in two thousand ten in dallas when the packers beat the The pittsburgh steelers. My dad had hired mike mccarthy. He had higher times. My dad also hired Mike holmgren hired ron woolfe and he was also in the room when they the trade for brett farve and had to okay that my dad had to okay the drafting of aaron rodgers which was very controversial at the time so when he was up there with then president mark murphy but my dad was is still chairman emeritus backers but was on that podium and had a chance to be a part of the two separate super bowl champions years apart. Two different staffs to different quarterbacks two different head coaches and gm's in watching up there my first super bowl that was that was a pretty special moment. So if i had to mitch mentioned one game that might be. That's beautiful kevin. That is. I mean that's been something so your dad's there the lombardi trophy. You're calling your first super bowl. Come on you can't make that up. I wanna relive i. I was it was. It was pretty special. You know probably number two. It had been last year with the chiefs right had called for nine years and we have four kids and they were. They were little babies. When i used to bring him to the broadcast booth and my partner was lend us think about len dawson in the last time chiefs quarterback won a super bowl and In thinking about lamar hunt and that trophy that they were awarded a couple of weeks before narrow head for the afc championship and then owning up the lombardi trophy with his wife. Norma there clark hunt who i know enormou- who's been very good to our family over the years That would be very happy. One that that was a very special moment is well in miami. Have a great broadcast with kurt. Who has you know as an aces. Human being is there is on planet earth and loves calling games. Oh my gosh. does he love it. And the passion comes through the microphones for both of you guys when you sit there for westwood. One have a great cast kevin. Thanks for the call. Thank you rich. And i'll be watching you guys all day sunday boarding your great work. I'd be there they'd be there. Thank you bet. That's kevin harlan. Westwood one my bad twelve consecutive super bowls. Now that's a hell of a member. You want to live that. Dan sleeping here. I've got you babe and don't forget your booties. Let's call right right. you want to punch out. That's great why am i blanking. On the guy's name he punches out everything. Because oh ned ryan and you want to punch sitting on the way to the super bowl you lose net medically and you know kevin such a good guy the way that he just calls a game and if we had more time we would ask him who the sound engineer is because he will always gave a shout-out like he did that time when he called the great game between the drafters and the seventy sixers friend jeff called that game seven that i wanted with the buzzer and the ball bounced on the rim a couple times and went in and everyone went nuts in toronto and he said that jeff walker was a sound guy who called the ball and the ram and mike del tufo was hearing him about to give a compliment to a member of his profession on. You say here is listening. Yup yep exactly. I know when a guy does and then wait a minute i hear. Jeff walker's name. Here's the name the guy's name up. Forget him is exactly on. Describing for the radio audience. The body language and mike del tufo exhibiting as kevin harlan called out a member of his profession. What is amazing. Is how bring context what i was thinking at that time. Tell me why anybody told me. I know because you've now you've now completely embellish that story. Excuse my friend jeff. Why no wasn't supposed to be in the chair here. We go thornton here on pledge. Both of we're gonna play it one more time and you tell me what you're thinking. I don we got more time. He's queuing it up one more time your ego roll it roll it. You know you brought roller one more time. This is you listening to kevin harlan. So what are you thinking right here right now. I'm listening to who's he's talking. You're not in your head over. I know the mixers. I know almost all right and i know jeff i know patrick. Then what is shaking your head. In the back of your. I thought patrick was doing my come on man. Excuse my friends with jackson. Your friends now know ask jeff one of the many reasons why of me mike. One of the many reasons why i love you and i love having you part of this show every day. Okay with the things. I love about our relationship is we grew up in the same area. We talk the same language. We both talk the same language. I totally understand when you want us to watch something and you say listen when you want to play something for us to hear you say okay. I grew up with people like you. Okay i totally know what you're thinking and how you express yourself there's no question when you shake your head and and give the look of what you gave like you move back and you kind of make a level was a different guy have grown up with people who make that and this expression is of is a three word expression. I'm telling you and that three or expression of you you're not you're which is you're in agreement and auto second. The look you give right here was right three words this frigging guy. That's what that will this fricken got. Is you know not is the body language. That's green words accompany. You weren't here for that last year we here for. I'm saying i'm cleaning up. I'm cleaning up now. What this the three words. And i'm chris agrees with me because he's not he's not engaging right now. Looking at the chris brockman down where he just doesn't want to get involved. He's literally going to turtle mode over there. Stevie wonder would agree with you when he obviously. Let's take a break when we come back. Chris brockman news update No we're not going do news update. They wouldn't take phone calls. Took coming up on top of them before vigo mortenson joins us. I know what he answered this question about what. He wants to live groundhog day. Apparently he was at the miracle on ice win. It's coming up. Got my residuals. If you don't mind i'd like to crow about my career my residual checks. I've got four envelopes. Which one through four you choose. Which one do you think was. Let's pick number two number two. I here we go here. We go billy bob thornton. Let's the oldest residual checks that you have probably from like knots landing matlock stuff. Oh yes get them for like thirteen cents all the time from one seen or some early eighty. Well this one is from. Let's see right here. this one is from. Csi miami caged. I can't believe this is insane. Billy this is nuts. There's a real real. What from syndication hundred fifty talk. Nice job nice job. This is a record billy. Why don't you. I'm telling you you could actually afford to send this one into cash. Usually there must be a decimal point off. It's usually a dollar fifty wild what's caruso making. I'm making one hundred. he recalled. you'll rob thornton. You're my good luck charm feeling about this and this is four. Csi miami deep free. Oh pre k. The other episode caged drew's for one hundred and fifty three bucks. Deep-freeze appropriately named three dollars and nine cents. Everybody and how ironic that. Your name is rich landing Yeah i was like a friendly rancher or something on there with with ted shot for years less row. you're officially called timmerman. Timmerman tim roy matlock. You are a pawnshop cork phone shop clerk. I remember that. He's been billy bob studios sauce. We went to break camp back to when we come back from radio time. We're back forty five okay all right. It's not bedlam bedlam. Cock audience has been bedlam in the studio. I wish we during the break cameras are only rolling as soon as the show's over. After i yet the mistake i had to decide died. He i thought i had acquired brooklyn. You're on record that one. That was great. Good lonzo yeah right. It's okay honestly this. Look look i i grew up. Just freaking guy like that's exactly what it is. I grow with the money people in your new jersey exactly africa. I gosh back here. On the rich eisen show radio network. We're all one happy family. I think he's been bedlam in our studios. This is still too that. He snagged on a member of his profession. I thought it was a. You're covering tracks years later. Tonight it's like the rude boy saying inch nine again all over your face if you are if you are just joining us We have We've had a controversy here where We have our fantasy league. Tj's in last place. I mean we gotta keep bringing that. Because that's why i reached out to you. I'm like let me reach out to the guy. In last place in desperate need of name players and i need to get some assists so let me get lamelo ball. I made you a trade pausing for lamelo. I said my unicorn for your rookie. You accepted it and sent me lonzo. Because i did not. I did not at my glasses. And i did not see the. Oh the anyway just thought you had lamelo instead to just make it worse. The guy we're trying to chase down. Adam are call is running away with this league. He's got lamelo. I didn't send you. Anyone wants to trade reversed poll right. Just hit that with a re tweet is well status. Rich eisen show radio of our discussion. And i hit the pole right and you said yesterday right. Now it's fifty seven percent. Think i should veto it. Kathy and philadelphia actually called in before the show to chime in on this. How are you kathy. Hey how's it going to be how it's going i i understand rich. I understand I actually was calling into to say that this move is not not as bad Torn as to whether or not commissioner brockman should veto it just because you you gotta watch the names you know. Tyreek hill has a very different fantasy value than pace them. Help you know but correct. I was a commission of football league Back in brady's. Mvp run in twenty ten and someone who had was not familiar with. How fantasy football during brady's by week dropped him instead of benching him. So what you do. And somebody immediately picked him up. And i said whoa. Whoa hold on clearly mistake. Clearly the guy but the guy stuck to his guns would not admit that it was a mistake. So i let the trade. I let the move fan and he missed out on so the guy who dropped brady refused to admit his mistake at of pride. So the following year We rename the league who drops tom. Brady dog no doubt. No i'm with you lockstep. Like if i if. I sat here and i refuse to admit y'all yeah i knew lonzo along in the same way that delta for refuses to many with slagging on the sound guy jeff walker years ago when he was really you know saying something else you know i would say absolutely deserves seventy rename. Yeah thank you. Very much kathy. Thank you for the call very well. Kathy is one of our favorite calls Yeah but by the way this guy who refused to admit he made a mistake needs to see that pulp fiction scene of A pro about pride and what you should do and what. You should do prime. I think kathy that was a veiled message toward you. I understand what she was saying. Federico closest poll is smart people in cincinnati. Let's get cam here on the richer. What's up camp. Hey rich thanks for having me on I don't wanna say happy black history months my dot. Tj subcamp can lead I don't think that you made a bad trade. I actually have lonzo end lamelo in my league. I have lonzo my league every year. He's been mba. He's gonna help your team. He's going to help your team. So i want you to chill on the lonzo. Hey he's going to help your team. You're gonna do well. But i would advise you to go here. Lamelo right now. I want to get lamelo. I wanted to get lamelo in the worst way. My son zander drafted lamelo and both of his leagues. And i'm watching him blow up. And i really by the way. I enjoy watching him play. That's why i get i play. I been i get fantasy players. I enjoy watching occurring. I don't wanna hate. Watch my fantasy team. Sometimes you gotta do that. The for success. I don't dislike bar said when you think about my sons you will never lose off right. Thank you very much. I know how you can get lamelo. I fact even when you lose i win. What do you mean. I know how you can get him if you want him really badly. Offer trade offer porzingas two atom or what. You've to threaten adams job that's true. Get lamelo if you want him. I don't i. Don't i don't wanna mix fantasy with gonna trade porzingas form when you ain't got porzingus true. You ain't got actually that trade is currently. It says it's it's truly on the desk. It's in the box. Makes you wait four days for the trade to go third Evidence courtland new york. You're on the rich eisen show. What's up evan. Hey rich so basically kinda wanna talk you off the ledge here you actually won the trade hush okay well how. How's that possible. Evan so let me tell you right now. First of all. I'm a knicks fan as you. Yeah so. I think. I know where you're going with this when he can't stay healthy right. That's the new york. Knick fan you want. You can't stay healthy because we want trade. Obviously but all what i realize it hold on a second in real life in real life. He won that. I'm telling you he is going to. Oh my goodness rich dumb now the times that this guy's got hurt and that seal. I mean look at the frame of that guy is just not a good walk like bowling bowl. I don't see him lasting longer than ten years in the league. Just look at the frame so long. It's it's it's a long time but that's also a long time of and also if you look at long last five games from a fantasy perspective. He has Let's see his three games of two steals or more. He also has a twenty seven point. Game is an e eight rebound game. And if you go. Look at. Chris stops is set but he had a double double last night. If you wanna be recency by us here sir. I mean true. He had the double w. outside the four turnovers. Only gets you wanna sit and in my league. I don't know how to scoring works for you but assist are worth more Than our rebounder worth two points as opposed new. Now we're just straight up. And i appreciate the call evan. Thank you appreciate a callback. We're just straight up just statistics. It's just accounts just one everything counts as one by the way i am not here for the revisionist history. That the knicks are better off without kristaps porzingis. I'm sorry that's like browns better with. Come on man. I i'm out here for that. I'm not here for that at all. But okay evans made it a point. Someone someone russ strauss to give him a shout-out tweet. Rich you fumbled through the end zone. Okay i i appreciate the moxie not the spirit take a break michael irvin when we come back our pro football hall of fame friend making his annual tradition of stop on the rich eisen show on super bowl week when we come back. I always like to think that. I'm his most favorite person in the room. But when vince lombardi trophy is sitting between the two of us. I lose out to. This is so funny. You start with this. Because i'm gonna tell you something man i was planning. I made a pet that. I would never go to super bowl until i play in the super bowl. Okay here he'll go to get super bowl questions. That's why i always say. I would never go to super bowl out of the super bowl so i would like asking me questions that i can. Certainly whatever you wanna ask threes things. So what was it like picking this trophy up for the first time. It was the greatest thing in really. Was richard really what you remember stance. Oh my god man first of all you got to go back and think about like we were one in fifteen. We had three and thirteen one in fifteen when you three and thirteen and one in fifteen cleveland browns. I no. you don't think there's any chance whatever layoff hold of something like this. So the goal from those days coming in ninety two and winning that super bowl and actually somebody handing you that trophy. The most incredible thing most incredible feeling in the world you ever step in when you heard the jimmy and jerry were not doing well or you. Just your station wasn't that. I i really didn't and i was like what he you are. You joking hard. It is to win super bowls in and you have a formula as working and then when happy like god you know. I should have done this. Maybe i should have talked him. I should have tried this. I should have tried back jerry jones. I'm telling you to went thousand number for jerry jones telling me that when i was negotiating with him and i was saying you know i'll go to cincinnati and it was just. I'm just talking trying to get my money's up. I said i'll go to cincinnati. You get caught pickings over here. Let's see what happened. Jerry said to me the ears. Michael you know when i see i see microwave and the dallas cowboys kinda. She'd like magic johnson. In the lakers. Magic with the lakers lakers without a matching. He said you guys abe alone. Geller just like you there. Michael the best way i can tell you if a bomb hit valerie's today that's where we practice every everybody when the smoke clears me. We steal beat here so we might as well work. This deal out right now. Lebron's food as he was telling me know about my mother talk. That's why you're in the hall of fame together of that story. Youtube dot com slash rich eisen show for any part of the rich eisen. Show that you may have missed peacock. Tv dot com is how you can get peacock to watch us everyday. Peacock tv dot com is how you can get The rich eisen show in front of your eyeballs or the your eye gate to use the phrase it. Michael irvin would say My compadres from nfl network calling in shortly on the program And our call screener adam In front of our fantasy league way out in front he will be calling. Michael irvin hopefully in a second to make sure that he's He's here and Let's go to Ron and denver. In the meantime ron on the rich eisen show what's wrong. Hey rich. I was actually calling back. Yeah the day and we asked everybody to call in with a day that That you are sporting event that you've seen that you'd like to relive that day over and over again. What does that for you for me. It'd be the twenty sixteen interchange today against the broncos patriots It'd be the dad wanna relive. It was just an awesome day grading bahrain. never there was amazing but actually wanted to skew negative. And ask you and really holding there is there an event. You wish that you that you didn't want to go back to over and over again for me. The twenty twelve divisional against the ravens brutal double overtime. It was freezing. I mean heartbreaking fashion so there any event that you win over and over well. It's interesting that you said that. Because brockman brought that up. And i said where's too much negativity in the world. Let's not do it that way. Let's go the other way and you say this Rockford's give me a look right now. I i'll just say this one off the top of my head since you're talking about being in denver being in that stadium and mile high was at the afc championship game. That the jets in vinny testaverde and bill parcells made and they were up at halftime. And i just remember thinking to myself. My ears were ringing from how loud that stadium was in the first half and how quiet it was is the broncos went to the locker room down And then the on the The the kickoff to the second half that for some reason. Dave meggett who was on the jets. Tom let hit the ground. Let drop right in front of him. Broncos recovered the jets didn't stand a chance after that that i'll just throw that one out since we're talking denver so a little younger than it was hard for you appreciate that. Thanks for the call. Yeah now he's on sports center at the time just one year in and i was wearing my wesley walker eighty-five jersey that still fit with my name. Richard isan sewn in the back so they knew which bunk encamp laconda to return to. I wore that jersey. Look fact my buddy. He is michael irvin. He was with me last night. On the set of opening night he will be with me in tampa florida on the set for eight and a half hours of nfl. Game day morning pre-game to super bowl. Fifty five coverage. He is back here on the show how he irv rich. How are you buddy rich. I wish i was on the set with you. Thanks now rich. And i mean kudos. We got where we're getting through it. But it was just different like actually miami and when i came on i said oh my god that was insane. It was beautiful. It was beautiful but but that was beautiful. And i miss me to do that. I know you come on the set all the time and then last night for opening night i know know we replayed your zoom with both coaches and your resume with mike evans. Normally you'd be literally standing next to them. And you know able to give that michael irvin look and the air you know your enthusiasm is infectious in person and and the interviews become that much more personal and but it is what it is urban and we've got ourselves an incredible incredible matchup Was i guess. There's nothing like it right. There's nothing like it if you get in the car with a driver that's always league. We have the super bowl. You know and i know we built this thing to go to the jeod. I worry a little bit about. Patrick mahomes mom call us call it and she got mad. We call it a pat right. You know what i'm saying. Anything serious but it's the greatest match up man for this kind of a year rich to have this match up. It's almost like god is saying. Okay i know it's been hard on you. Let me give you there and gave us there and so As we know mahomes trying to become the first quarterback to go back to back since brady And before that it was brady first time since elway and before that it was elway first time since aikman so what goes through the mind of a champion when they know they have an opportunity to repeat what is what. Walk me through the process of what the chiefs might be thinking at this very moment tuesday before an opportunity to make history and a couple of things here first of all as a team and we talked. Someone opened unite. Less you watching watching those guys interact. I it's almost like an under. We felt this way. This is all we've been waiting for. We had to deal with all that other stuff just to get to here when you when we were super bowl champions like okay. We just want to get back to defend now championship. And that's right here at the super bowl. That's all you think about this now. There's so much. Patrick mahomes though because for for him for him you imagine aaron rodgers drew brees all these guys in the league this long. They've been great for so long and they let this kid come in his third time around starting snatch his second super bowl already. Oh my god rich. That's insane rich. That's insane 'cause. Tom brady has moved. The ball may have moved the bar. You know when. The ball was four. Super bowls by by montana in in in Bresso getting one was good but now the bar is at least fix. It may even be seven. You gotta have at least two could be in the conversation. So pet gets his second. That'd be big for him and obviously just though the the concept of of making history like that by going back to back which which you did and then you know again what do you think is tyree kills mindset knowing okay knowing the first quarter he had in week twelve that he i look i look i know you want to be respectful of your and that you know teams are much better when you space them in the super bowl then you when you saw them in the regular season but don't you think deep down he knows he's got these guys lewis right. Yeah yeah let me tell you what if you may be thinking to it. Yes like i think about this now and this is where i would be thinking to like. There's no way they're gonna play like that icke. There's no way. I noticed what they do. They like to bring pressure. But there's no way they're going to do that again. Because i would love to see them do it here because i didn't get the vp of the super bowl last time. But he'll get it if he does that here. Because a lot of get some ninety passes across middle Last time on them but but yeah he comes up with two hundred yards in the first. What oh my god. I that first quarter yet. Yeah most of those first quarter. He was off the chain. So but but there's no way tap is going tampa tampa does that. All the coaches are going to just go lay down there. There's that we we we done. Well he is thinking exactly what you said michael. I don't know if you caught that in his his opening day opening night zoom idealist. Talking about it let me get it. Now that's what he said he said. If i do it again. I'm going to be the mvp the super bowl which he wants like you know like and the last time. This game was played in this stadium. The mvp was a wide receiver in san antonio homes. So i mean there's even precedents in the stadium and he's thinking he's imagining it right now. I just can't imagine what it's like staring at the ceiling trying to get some rest this week knowing that the game has so much online for history to back to back. I i love talking. That's why i thought was interesting rich when we talk. We saw last night when when when when you know because this year not everything's different but kansas city says they're not coming into saturday. You know you do my staring at the ceiling wondering about it. You'll be standing here in tampa at com everywhere. You know. So they were like. Hey we're gonna make this enormous team and we're not coming into side. Because i think that's the biggest thing that i have to worry about. The aura of all of this is going on around. Tom brady being here in tampa. And you've got to figure out a way to break the wheel of those guys because they have the game at home. That's going to be incredible. Michael irvin my hall of fame friend. Nfl game they morning eight and a half hours. You know. we're going to talk about other stuff on on super sunday. So i'm honest with just hit you with one that we're definitely gonna hit. What advice do you have for to shawn watson right now right now michael irvin if you had them in a room. I was talking about this yesterday with somebody they said. Well what what changes do you give to show. I'm watching them coming back. I said let me tell you. What i i am. Twenty five percent chance possibly let me tell you why i'd give that twenty five first of all. You don't wanna leave that money on the table. Thank god you don't wanna leave monetary. We just got i. I saw this man crying in september. I sit this. I'd give it the twin five percent. Because if i'm on that team i'm on a team man. I all the is together man. And i know they can't find the show but we will find shaw and we go all go and get down on and we have a box and we open the box and we're going to leave. Don't leave us. We know ring in this box. But if you don't come back they'll never be ringing but if you come back and we're gonna work hard we'll have eighteen and then they go out to get ready used to be you know have aside. What is does that. Come in a box getting rid of the guy in the front office that nobody's really ever heard of until you just hear nothing. Good about him in public is that. I don't think you can get that in a box. I'll tell you. I'm just trying to help them figure out a way to call this thing. Now try to get him back. What am i if he leaves. Houston and grit. If if i'm on i'm leaving. Houston i. am talk miami. And and the. I'm trying to do. I'm getting an nfc guy. Leaving us. You know drew brees and then leaving. I'm getting an nfc boy. I'm wanting to tear it up. And i'll meet patrick mahomes in the super bowl instead of trying to fight him to get to a super bowl. Why and i think the the nfc where you know The best quarterbacks are getting longer in the tooth You know mostly Is a reason why i think. The rams went rolled the dice with With stafford just getting him and got the upgrade that you think you need or the that you believe stafford is and go for right now like literally right here and right now. That's why. I think it's actually after watching what tom do right. They're like well. Wait a minute you know what i mean. Let's wait a minute. Let's try to whatever it takes. I guarantee you. They didn't want the knicks that second first round they wanna give it up but but when it came to it they said what do we do here and they make a and they looked at what tom has done. And that seal the deal. Tom may that deal for stafford. Get done 'cause that's exactly what they did. Resist what you said. They're looking around. You know man we can get this guy over here. Put it with our team right now and we see these battles in the super bowl. That's exactly what they're being right even though. Tom is one of those quarterbacks getting longer in the tooth whose teeth are the greatest teeth of all time right. I mean he's just he's he doesn't get old. He's getting older but he doesn't get old if you understand what i'm saying and and i think that you're also just seeing where if you get the right quarterback with the mix around is just ready to go. You can get to the super bowl and i think in a minute and a half have left with you here are. That's what kind of ruffled aaron rodgers feathers is. You know even though he hadn't mentioned jordan level your long in that was supposed to be something. He was at peace with that. He brought up his future after losing because he saw right in front of him. A team that went all in for a goat that just arrived on their seen. Hasn't put in over a decade and that guy in that team beat him. That's what i'm beginning to. Think as. Well michael i understand. I absolutely believe. That's what aaron is to you. Know especially after what you did to earning the draft and they turn to come back and do what he did to you and retire. That's the power struggle going on over there. I knew it was the first shot across the bow remember. We wanna grew text soon as he made those comments on a group text. I hear oh. I shot a costco. Put out power struggle. I've seen it. i've seen it. I know back to back championship game. I've seen it out to back to back super bowl. You see what i'm saying. I've seen and and and and at first when it started happening being okay. Everybody's just talk. Who calmed down. This isn't never habits. Nothing never happened. And i was watching. Jimmy walk out the door. I was hit over to the facility. They were trying to talk to me. I was tossing garbage cans. Get outta here. it was your fault. It was their fault. You're destroyed everything. So i keep saying. I know aaron rodgers all going to work out but man i just do you know. There's always a slim possibility of something happening. Even though they would be crazy letting iraj move around but you never know michael irvin eight and a half hours of nfl. Game day morning I look forward to seeing you down in tampa. Do you have just a couple more minutes. Two more minutes left irv or you gotta run where you're going okay. So stay on on peacock only special radio audience. Though we will let you know vigo mortenson will join us the actor in our number three and we'll talk about him being the miracle on ice And that's one of those groundhog day type of events where you just wanna keep reliving it over and over again your phone calls and our number three coming up right here on the radio but we're still here on peacock irv. What your groundhog day. What what would be the one day game at you ever either attended or play that you'd wanna play over and over again like groundhog day. You wake up. You live at my the game that i won't play over on. Its first super bowl. You can met you. Put that on a loop and i would be. I would move to happen. It would be heaven for me to put that one on. Why's that just because it was the first one was an affirmation of a dream. Or or what would it be all of that rich all of that. At one time. I was telling somebody who scored that touchdown out. I don't know why you know what went through my head. Weird i when. I scored the first touchdown in that first super bowl a slant route. I would've croke in though and for some reason all of all the time. Tolstoy walking in the neighborhood and broke. Somebody wanted to and they came to my mom's house and say apart we'll never be. i know. They saw that they had received that so it was just a one. Do it led me to this. They should be atlas. That's why i. I don't know why i was thinking about that. But that was the thought. I had been after that super bowl to just sit there man after going three and thirteen and one hundred fifteen and playing in my yard all of those years you see the depth of the pain of all of that losing was only matched by the height of the love. In the victory and joy overcoming and all of that that we shared it was incredible at every day. See that's why we chris brockman. We had the question to be positive. What would you want. Not what we all that you wouldn't wanna relive over and over again like say that. Nfc champ game in san francisco where irv says he was Pasadena feared with by dion. earth see. Didn't interfere with what said he was. It was a legal like quick armbar. That's what he said so you don't realize that whatever they anyway unfortunately motoring. That's the one. I'm for really i think about it. I'd like bringing it up to love your. I'll see tampa in a couple of days. You go let's michael irvin everybody one only all by the way when he and dion going to be in a commercial break together in that think it brought up like discuss all be of you want to be a fly on that wall fantastic the actor vigo mortenson our number. Three your calls coming up.

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Debate Amongst Friends Superbowl

Debate Amongst Friends With Doc & Prof

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Debate Amongst Friends Superbowl

"And now direct your attention to the field for the presentation of the bids lombardi trophy on behalf of the nfl. Thank you to the city of tampa for one of them super bowl week in a season we will never forget. You are the super bowl champions. We will always remember joel to the entire glaze. Your congratulations to jerry and do a great organization. Great players. the vince lombardi. Trophy is staying in tampa bay the wanna know. The road ahead asked the person who sanders. We find that person. Jon stewart seven. Tom brady. Let's give trophy to bruce arians coach. I have so many people. Thank my wife chris christie. Mom's up there. She's ninety five. Love your mom now. This really belongs to our coaching staff and our players. This is your trophy. i didn't do a damn thank. you guys won. This game came together as a band of brothers. And you made it happen so proud of you thank you. Why don't you hand off to number twelve jason. Congratulations but was pretty good. Tom brady super bowl champion for the seventh time. Also super bowl. Mvp the odds. You had to overcome to get so this game and to get to this point right here. How special is this night for you of all the great things you've accomplished. I'm so proud of these guys. Are here everything we are dealt with all year. We had a rough month november but had all the confidence in the team had a lot of confidence came together at the right time. We knew this was going to happen. I didn't we get enough playing. That's the year and there's more to come rights on. There's more to come as far as football coming back we cover about tom. Brady's coming back that's right. Hugh the san man is going down. You heard it here before the show you heard the sound of the bucks celebration as the buck stops here at the end of the season but johnny. We did it again. I'd be with no. You said that we were gonna get beat by shellacked rather packers here i. That's what i do. I did not say. Lacking i did not say good slap or lift anybody says the bucket lose automatically assume slapped off. Now this now where. It's it's interpretation now there. No room I'm you spend the buck stops here. The buck stops here. Means that they're not even gonna show up. I saying that their journey. But i'm you made up for it by them up way doc. Not because i mean you said everything is just say came through. I mean the david and deborah flying all over the place. Todd freaking i mean. I didn't know what was going on. At one point i saw a defense and madden that nobody ever calls the three quarter three man d you know and i was like is he really pulling out the quarters and not only pull out the quarters defense but then he blitz both corners out of his defense and i'm sitting at unlike like serious right now by. He really was a calling a really really good game. I'm like even our favourite. He has the revels. Me doesn't really apply for this because this is bigger that this was i know how beat you now at this so i assume and we. We talked about it. Two weeks ago You know. I think we jokingly i might have said. Hey you're going to go back and look over that oakland tape. But i don't think this had anything to do with oakland. It was like hey oakland this was. This was the perfect plan and it was like. I don't care what happens if you're a cheese fan. It's the perfect crime. But those those perfect plan. I will start to attack a fragmented off deflowered. We'll talk about that moment here. Attack patrick mahomes because completely under duress from jump street. And to mitigate and minimized the impact of attire eke as well as travis. There's a lot going on. there's a large on. Let's talk about time. Noah will we're gonna we're gonna get to everybody who let's be with the defense because the defense did a great job keeping everything in front of them and honestly there were some times where even though they did everything correctly because you have such a stellar quarterback and patrick mahomes which i really want to make sure i give time but They still chance to make plays even though. This defense was really having a run for his life. I think they said he ran over. Four hundred yard scrambling away fucking eighty scrambled on arguments is so ridiculous but the throws he was making the decided to make data stats a hey and this is a stats guy saying this. You have much tommy hans This is a first time. I've ever heard of anyone using this. Any discussion or debate of scramble yards quarterback uses before throwing the but i have never. Maybe i'll say this may be mike vick or randall cunningham. And that's a big. Maybe because my big did used to. I mean he ran back and forth. Lie that i will say that. There's a chance maybe But nonetheless the deficit a great job You know todd talked about forcing them to the left in which there were times where you know even though i didn't want to talk about the game During the game with you we try not to that you just huge is going into it. I don't think i did it too. Good because we wanna cocky. We were we. Were staying in tune waiting for that final. You know zero zero zero there But they really really dominated them. You could tell that. Oh patrick was off a little bit. But we're going to get there. I mean shoutout to j. p. p. shaq barrett and making soup oh really was pushing collapsed in his pocket against that offense a line that you mentioned a really really causing some havoc but devon wine and what levante david did To cover kelsey and the things underneath. I was truly tremendous and i mean the boys playing bonds all year. And i'm so happy that they had an opportunity to play their quote unquote best game yet. At the time mattingly is their best game right. This is robust game richard. Which is what tom brady. Lewd before the game where he said we have new played our best game yet and had this kind of this kind of aling secondary. They did a good job. Because i mean they they believed and and that's another thing talked about. They believed in the system off the believed in the game plan and Able to win the game pissed off. They got embarrassed got gareth. That's the thing that kept talking about. You know they got ariza's you know this is. This could be something that can happen. What about their defense. A recent point really getting play. I mean it's still. We're talking about here right. They wanna get slapped. They're gonna get clap. They're going to get shellacked. It like But i mean listen to what are both has to say here at times. This is three weeks in a row. You in a second chance in an elite quarterback. Just tell me what goes into giving these guys the confidence to execute and win as much as they have in the last three weeks against such good competition them in the best situation as possible with the other defensive coaches and making sure they understand what team did to him the first time and understand what they might do to them the second time while at the same time execute our game plan to the fullest and those guys did a good job tonight in this clip as you can see. He goes over how they failed and pretty much. It goes to show that not only. Are these young players hungry. 'cause you gotta be hungry liberal on but also that they wanted it you know like they wanted this. I'm not saying end know but but the bucks wanted more an indeterminate. We must protect his house. True like is a reality with this game but the pretty back within about began and nocco off the canon night being able to go off. I'm pretty sure they felt a little low. Some about that. But i can't disagree with that It's hard for me to find fault in the nfl wanting to do that. I understand that because they were technically visiting team which is kinda dumb they warrant. That's the part that was kinda weird because the visiting team. That's why i was so weird. Because the chiefs actually called it in the air. That's why i was so weird. Be they called it at the game foam than originally was the visiting team. Do you want to count them in crown. What continue would you assume so. Let's talk about the offense because as much praise. I mean we can go on and on and on about this. He plays that they've made. I mean come. On the fact that the fact that fashionable homes has lifelock for resigned when he sees the dominic can sue coming up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get to that when we get to the official portion of the rafts which everybody wants to talk about. But let's talk about the offense. Tom brady twenty one for twenty nine. Two hundred and one yards three touchdowns no picks which is completely opposite from my madden. Twenty-one only one only one sack and that was one that he kinda just like folded under pressure by madden simulator. Which i did kind of had a similar score. I guess in reverse having the chiefs win. I think it was like thirty eight to ten years. Thirty cents trust madison. You gotta run it and see what happens but A random ball really really well financed sixteen cash. Eighty nine yards. Ronald jones has really really strong runs. Twelve carries for sixty one yards. Of course net got the touchdown despite the fact that there weren't as many people catching passes. This is that moment where john was like. What tom brady and rob gronkowski jess connect if game and they connected six times for sixty seven yards for net caught a couple passes. Mike caught a pass actress. God caught a couple antonio brown guy the end zone. I cameron break caught a couple of passes so he was spreading it around And it was clean. Twenty one for twenty nine is a clean game like the clean game and the passes that tom missed one. To a tanner hudson in the end zone. What you said you know my guy like it was right. There are talking about this. Have been thirty eight to nine. Yes he was like. Oh auto can. Also the drop by the offensive lineman. Yes right there. He got his railed. But i was so shocked to see him out there. I i was so shocked to see has called the play. We often joe hague But yeah it was a immaculate immaculate. Play calling. I didn't feel like it was too predictable. I didn't feel like they were doing anything just to read things like yeah felt like it was really intentional. In this two weeks they really really said. Hey we gotta go here. We got to win this game. Go out there identity executed so well the fact that they utilize the play action depletes mazing of. Rpo's is a few place for smart pills that they got some pretty good from well to end this utilizing this screenplays as well to like that last year. That was like huge and it just wide open if nia rock but like they just let these titans wide open with these screens which is something that of course. Tony romo a saying in a game that we needed to run the ball. Ron screens around play action. Nothing that's what he said And they did it. They really look good. Rammed only have eight. You know eight incompletions. You know three touchdowns could have been five easily But awesome game. The one thing that this leaves me thinking. Of course we're gonna move onto the chiefs in a second but this has me thinking like i want you to answer this and you can make this answer as shortage like or you can go into detail With the same. Do you feel that jameis. Winston could have done this. Any aberration. you just you just don't believe it. The talent is there we cannot. The game was absolutely talented but leadership and motivation to push not only yourself but the people around you towards something. Bigger is still something. James has got india. Nfl college of course. He had geared. I don't deny that but fell and the college game two totally different beast. I do not think jamie's winston would be able to get these duck near same squat. James seems to be the same by with gronk report net the same. That's quite honestly and so naro people want to say. Well you know you about the interceptions. No it's the intangibles calling your inmates in the off season like hey let's go throw the ball around because this is where it started. It started at tampa bay high school. I think it was in apart during quarantine park guys. I want you guys apply up. It's reaching out to your center about but swit- i mean who does a tangible it is but let's just wanted that out there because i know there's some people out there saying this team you talking about no no. There's a lot of people is not just one person. There's a lot of people say. I know this kid talking about you. Know general oral population saying that. Tom brady chose a stack team. Let's not forget. This team was gonna go seventy nine. They on the cusp of all this stuff blah I just feel that the additional. Tom brady Doing this with you though tom. Brady's edition was huge. Obviously enough for ned gronkowski and abc I think that's good But you know what. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. let's hear from patrick mahomes. And how he felt about the loss and we'll be right back after that not not not really any man a good game plan. They took away all deep stuff. They took away the sidelines. And they they they did a good job of the football and making tackles We we weren't early odd if you missed us. aren't run on the same page But i mean credit to them and they played. They played a heck of a game defensively and offensively us dairy shelter. Patrick mahomes for you know a classy. Even though i personally wasn't keep it. Classy obviously offering about his toe in the beginning. I don't know if you remember that statement. That are kind of hope. They gave him the. I'm gonna get your secretario. We foot off. Oh my god oh you wanna hit people with garbage and now got to cut you. Raise way play no more. You put that fucking raise blow your goddamn pinkie toe off. Now you gonna shoot men. Pink ghetto go ahead shoot eating. That is shoot quickly. You take your best shot at all in any type of toe I mean i was hoping that somebody was step on it. Uh but you know i made. I made a comment during the game. And i said made a lot of comments during a game so yet not as particular this particular one. Patrick mahomes i said if he was a stock i would have purchased it right during the game. He was so good Scrambling ability obviously was their. Fortunately he had to scramble was very unfortunate yes but it was row. A luxury. Descrambler wasn't yeah. It was really really bad but throws that he made it was so funny. Because there's a gif out there of ncwa fourteen. Where the quarterbacks going down and back is he's literally going down. Forwards like it is going down toward the line of scrimmage and he's throwing the ball leaning back this way and it's like the funniest thing ever he throws it like sixty is death of killed and somebody posing that in conjunction with wet mahomes is doing and really almost completing these passes and that's the part that was always about because there's a lot of drops drop so i'll get to that in a moment. So here's the thing that people keep forgetting pack a whole play baseball. He really did. And you know we would have october here. So he can't really talk about it but they could throw they could throw throw in any which angle. Which of course is a lot of things. People are praising obama. These are things that he can literally do and just flicked it. No twenty about the layout two of them either two of them one one one One goal was almost. He always had his knee down. He just like Twenty five yard. I believe they hit a. I wanted to say tyreek hill with the face. Actually that one and then it was another one. I think where. I wanna say it was higgins or pringle one of those and they almost caught it in the corner of the end zone. It was like the perfect location. Like that's where like the wanna tyreek you. He wasn't even looking like was looking. He's just threw the ball. You know thirty forty is via without looking going coming out of a sack or about to be sad and we'll get to some of them sags and the and the second by i mean this is really good. People really try to downplay his baseball career like he like the baseball players. Can do this legitimately but you know there's a difference man. I mean i understand what you're saying. But he's a major difference thing. Donald football in a in a baseball to you is a bigger surface area to grab. that's all. it is no throwing a football with the spiro. I mean that size difference makes a huge difference right now. I am pretty sure. Paschke homes can do those same throws fifty yards deep in the same fashion as he did. i'm garren at guarantee ingrid base our football. The he could do that with with a football. Of course. do we've seen it but it's it's it's not easy though like it's not an easy thing to do that's why they're bringing it up like not. Everybody can come over from baseball. And do a patrick. Mahomes is doing pretty sure. Russell wilson crowley do it but i give what you say. Russell russell can but see wrestles. Something about russell is that i think russell can. But he can't do it like that like throw on the run. But i think russell's arm movement the way he throws the ball. Now patrick i'm able to play physicians to so definitely without question but i mean i. I can't downplay that man. I mean like if i was a casual fan and i didn't have a team. Apollo would be a patrick mahomes fan. I have state farm didn't have. I don't mind people being attached for whole fans but like you know what we all get that. Let's let's catanzaro arrested a cheese because we're in order itself. We'll get to that but okay cash. No-fault works another. Here's here's a quote from. Jackie macmullan from around the horn. Did i really likes. She said the way he the way that that he interacted with the media after defeat made her like pasha homes than the way that he was victory of. Course because that's that's the true definition of champion. I mean he wanted last year he knows how it is and he also knows that. Hey we still got really really good team. It's not like this is the end. I mean who who is really really challenging the chiefs at this particular point. We haven't seen anybody of course we'll see what happens next season but i still think it might be the bills. I think we just need data Iranian just don't think they ready. They need they need something. They're like three pieces away. Honestly and that's another thing i mean. I don't know what's going to happen with. Lamar jackson like really take that at step. All weird see gore. Step back exactly. We'll they often you 'cause he's really not a runner like they don't have to run them in a like they're doing he can pass. He can throw as well. He's a he's a guy who threw a lot of touchdowns at louisville But this is about a cheese. Iran ball Relatively well cares six yards in the second half unfortunately even though it seemed like a terrible game her tyreek hill. He's still had seven catches for seventy three yards. Travis elsia tank catches one hundred and thirty three yards. A couple of drops. Really really excuse me really really hurt his team Really it could have been which. I was terrified of it. This could have been a closer game. I had they caught some of them passes but again saying with the bucks had the bucks cardo sudesh downs or looking at a couple of different game. But offensively i just think that They got checkmated it. It was it was than half the couldn't adapt early. And i mean listen. What topples did. I didn't expect. So i didn't expect it. You know i don't know how they could have expected. They played this high low. They often. Tom look like covered three but it was really cover to cover four. It was it was a lot of man. it wasn't too much pressing But it was a lot of movement I did notice that. The bucks were switching their linebackers depending on where kelsey was side soon. They were letting labontes stay on. Kelsey no matter where you went or reverse But it was insane in cheese. Just they just didn't have the answer What about air-defense. So he's already folks number one You already know. I felt like shot breeland. Should he got tossed. Out of the game Number one he shouldn't have been able to play in this game after his german suplex versus the bills I thought he should have been suspended indefinitely as far as everybody else. Obviously tyra matthew. You know had a couple hiccups. You know where. He kinda at emotional. I guess i'm a lead obviously into the officials porsche portion of it but The people that are worried about. Mostly chris jones frank clark to coin a phrase that. We've used several times over the last couple of years. Those guys were neutralized thing where they were. We didn't really talk about your offensive line but yes. There wasn't much of a fact during the game. S out of the one sack tom brady. Yeah i mean honestly is not really a whole lot to write home about maybe in the first quarter yet you could see. They arrive. Yale like valkyrie. The best like acting. We're still need the bucks. Were pretty much able to do whatever they want. I mean they the first couple of drives you know think you said they were throwing jabs at each other. You know. honestly what what's going on. There were a couple of penalties that happen and obviously want their. I guess it's time for us to really get into that penalty before that though. Let's just. I'm gonna say this objectively again. The chief secondary deal tire first half of this game. So so listen i i'm gonna say all bad i will say objectively so very that's why i now i. I didn't say he said gentleman was proud. Young idea that not not to tampa bay fan. Professor john f. Educate the game. But i didn't feel like i didn't feel like you know and this is going to sound objective. Of course i it's gonna sound objective. Subjective it's gonna sound you sound like. I'm being a homer you know bike but i didn't see too much but penalties out there i like outside of jp jp literally jumping off sides. Like it was like the holding on. Carlton davis i did. Agree with the roughing. The passer on the one that they called on the bucks where they sandwiched mahomes. It was really ugly looking. But i thought everybody was kind of heels air like but i think they just kinda gave it to him because it looked so bad now. We'll say this one that was missed. i can say this without a shadow of a doubt. Sue definitely contact him. Did say f did And mahomes is asking for the flag interrupt. Seen it but i mean su he was already going down in Sue came and you know he gotta cut. Subic patrick on the way down. Didn't saying we must protect his health. Lake don't ever play with matches can stop smoking like it was really. That's why the ones that i. I would say the rest miss that because he definitely like coal cochran right in the face. Joe garcia dos. Joel didn't step on the to- i wanted him to buy out and But the past failures calls on the chiefs. I mean come on guys. Like i don't think it was bad. I thought there was some hold like literally there was holding. There was a legal contact But i think since that packers game where people you know. They got that flag. I think that's all people think about is like the quote unquote refs always bailing brady out. But it's like that. Play down the field. Mike evans is wide open into the indian zone. A guy pretends to stumble and trips his foot. And they're like. Oh my god you would. We need that was a that would have been an awful call not call because i was pretty upset with the one that happened later on. Bronx retiring matthews literally tackling him prior to the ball arriving. I'm like you guys kidding me. But i was entire tyron a opi call the second ground td and not even close anything like that happened. He does be new quote. Unquote impeded his direction. Like that's literally variance impeding or holding or stopping someone from catching the ball with your body. You can't do that and the bucks the way they were doing. It was the legal way. I i think when When we call the first interception the defense back put his arm like not even touching the receiver put. It puts his arm in the way of the ball hits. The shoulder bounces up. Pick steel tip deal a tip drill interception And and that's what that's what. We're talking about both ticks or both foul tiptoes. Actually yes. so it's like we were playing the right way I'm not trying to buy no flags about knoll. Sakes is now suddenly a whole bunch of stories coming out that the nfl has rigged. Listen we've been talking about the nfl and the nba ridge for years. Nobody wanted to hear it whenever it comes down to. Your favorite player is is rigged by when other people say player now square. Which would it be as we're headed the ball. We love lear. Like come on girls like what you're talking about So i think. I gave you a list of different reasons. Why people feel like felt like this game you do the remember. The one about tom brady is two of our tom brady. There's people who tom people who don't like time. Yeah people who don't like foot. Who don't know football i guess chiefs fans. Nfc no afc east fans at the said and nfc. South fans is one said a witch bills a lot of heat. I mean do a lot of heat. But i was having year. There was hate even before the nfc time likes just beyond as put that out. It is and the seats. Honestly acting beat. Taylor heineke heineke year which keep being about oil rig. Six half of the young guy couldn't get over like the people talk like this is. Wwe a lot of people were saying that that it was fixed like wbz but honestly the football team had the best chance of winning. Honestly when you really look at the way the games went the red. What ball team really really played really well and and kind of help us in check. Drew brees couldn't get you know. Get out of his own way. Yea can get things going. And then i think had the saints switched to jamie. this could have been a whole. Different story It could have been worse. Could have been better but either way it would have been a whole different And in aaron rodgers. I mean he chose to throw it instead of running in in nature. Does that kick a field goal in the fourth quarter and then decided to hold. You know tyler johnson on a bang. Bang play in polish shirt. But listen they won the superbowl man. I had about eight and this is this goes back to what we talked about with the lakers. Winning a championship go too deep into this. But the reason why people don't like lebron rain is because he's probably one of the only i won't say the only he's probably wanted to first players to ever have a whole bunch of hype and actually excel and succeed in that hype like excel. Yon that That's why people get labeled bus so fast because they they don't meet the height. Tom brady comes into the nfl. He got no high six quarterback trade the six seven quarterback taken in the draft and draft He goes into six around. Nobody knows tom brady. Who is this guy. Drew bledsoe goes down. He starts drinking and dunkin all over the place winning all these games and now a ninety years later. He's the goat so when he comes the tampa. And everybody's like oh my god a tom brady. They got oh. My god i got growing olma gone. It's the champ adrian. That's what we were called at. Tampa bay patriots. Oh my god it's him. Crank it jerry. In the hype. It hype train is real. We talked about this Where they you know hype or psych. I mean really leg are they. Are they pretenders. That's what it was all about up to the midway point i felt they were pretenders. I still believe up until yesterday. They were benz. I don't know what everybody else e. But when i'm looking at this game i'm like this team. I don't know who they think. A day burns okay and until that clock zero zero zero zero. They were buns. I'll like the way they play. Sometimes i'll either way you know some people run through the little steam tunnel allegheny ab buns from the moment. They walkout locker room. I've said it to you yesterday. Then dental light right out without his helmet like john gotti helmet gonna play with coming. So let's complaining about the way. Ronald jones running the ball. Exactly i complain all the time. Because i like tom brady. Expect perfection when al here on this field. Representatives butts team. When i'd be seeing these guys out here plan. This way is so ridiculous if so frustrating. Speaking docs reaction okay. Let's spend last portion of the segment to let the people know how you celebrated debt by itself deserve to be talked so at the opportune time. Obviously when the clocks read zero zero zero zero the confetti is falling honest. i didn't even see the speeches. Like none of the speech. Any of the celebration honestly. Tom is celebrating. The equalizer was. Oh my god it was so pretty interesting turned out to be pretty good queen latifah jersey But right i wanna yeah. That's right. I went out on the balcony. You know and immediately and this is exactly why we cute it in the beginning. The first thing that came to my mind was to take a beer chips. And just i mean do this one can of beer and almost one gulp let it drip down my face. I don't even care. Like i'm gonna drink this beer. That's right pause. I'm going to drink this beer. And i'm gonna love it but it was such a rewarding experience. I can hear the beer falling off the patio as i. You know open and it just blew everywhere just doping it down my bucks shared on or my mind over matter share which is covered in napoleon's hair holding all game long Which i had to take it out. Dads needs another. Say somebody call me and and it was just a good time man but nonetheless. I didn't see any of the celebration. I had to go back and watch it. I missed everything like it was like a whirlwind of emotion. And then i got a little bit of a a little bit of the bubble ed and which i was able to Pat open and as you saw spill it on my phone phone's okay. No phones were harmed in making video hilarious. Finally like hit home to monday settled in on monday you. Luckily i was off on monday. You know and Of course i had to run some areas. But luckily i was off. And i was able to really let it soak in and let it. You know i mean. I could call people. And say hey. Meteors is dumbo is a bun. Still you know the bunn. Meter debunk clock starts over. Okay if history star of history repeats itself like a dead on sunday than these next ten years is going to be real rough or fifteen years or whatever it is but we're going to see what happens But tom there man they talking about extending him. So we'll see what happens. Well let's take a quick break and come up with a final. let's come up with a final segment here and see what's next for these. Two teams are bag and before we get into the future for the bucks and the chiefs. Let's talk and give a quick show of respect And our condolences for kansas city chiefs head coach marty schottenheimer. Who passed away today Really really said he was really one of those head coaches that kind of symbolize nineties. Football for me. He was one of those guys that joe is seen. I'm sure he'll be missed by his family and friends. But we're here to talk about the off season for the chiefs and the bugs will start with the chiefs. They have a few a few free agents that they're gonna have to try to keep some of those. Of course include sammy watkins demarcus robinson alex for obviously suplex city himself for shod religion. You know e continue to suplex in kansas city. Will see some office alignment. Mike remers and Bear center austin raider. Ask some some pieces to try and in kind of re resigned Do they kick the tires and resigned. Levian bell who really didn't do too much them. The andre baker is a free agent. So there's a couple of people that they're going to have to resign. I'm curious to see. Exactly what their plans are But yeah anyb any notable names there that i mentioned that you think is a must resign for them. Honestly now honestly. It's really hard to tell. Because so what are the issues with the chiefs. Offense is you never know who's going to be that person we know we know tyree kills number one. Well travis kills labor to like after. And it's kind of i mean and all of the receivers after that are on this list. Yeah pringle you have a everybody's on this list so it's almost like the entire wide receiver core. Either they're gonna resign one of these guys or they're gonna bring in somebody new so i mean it's it's really interesting but i agree with what you're saying though without question but i think they are probably better off just getting some more people in and seems in obviously had the injuries and so both the offense i do see that colletti Malet is on here as well as the other two three on that i mentioned so this could be a really a new team obviously with kelsey and cheetah You still have some really really top players on defense You know who did they bring back you know they brought in taco charlton remember when the cowboys cut him So they have some players yet. I think what the chiefs need. They just really need a legitimate receiver. I think that they're issue like we don't really have a go to remember three receiver and the thing. That's thinks that the salary cap is going down. Also so exactly which is why they probably won't be signed not even a fourth those people right So let's let's look at my tampa bay done any the super bowl champs. Obviously the top dogs alabama david. Chris godwin shack barad. He got gronk. He got endowment sue. leonard fournette. who've they've already come out and said they wanna keep antonio brown finally kicker. That's actually made some cakes and ryan suck up. The shaw mccoy said he's retiring We traded for steve mcclendon from the jets rocky muni nunez roaches. Who played some really really big minutes. And the playoffs. With innovative being out some special teamers in ross cockrell and ryan smith the aforementioned joe haden who dropped the touchdown pass We have some of the players. Blaine gabbert who's a backup. He'll by be resigned and ryan griffin. Indra adams is another player It's i don't think there's too many people you can definitely get rid of jade mickens. I'm already feeling. Jane journalist interesting one here. Aaron steny who kind of filled in at right guard. He did really really will. I was really happy with what i saw from him. So the you d think and with him getting a pretty year contract so having john back up like he's probably gonna get somebody's gonna try to steal them. I mean i would be happy for him. But i mean that goes to show like you know if you're as we had alex capela out outs. Cap is a really good alignment. But what. I saw from aaron stephanie and super bowl and in the playoffs You know he played really really well. So i could see him being brought back Tough one though so. He proved your team. Prioritize back. I i'm guessing. Devante david and jack barry writer check up one so in my opinion i think if i'm jason light i'm going to live on tuesday and i'm asking him like hey you know what's it gonna take to keep here because i i mean personally. I want iraq data. Be you know one of those bucks that retire a book you know and i know when i have conversations with some of my buck friends one in particular. He's always upset when players leave. All randall l exactly that all. But i mean right. Now he's making probably about ten ten to twelve million. I think it's ten million if we can keep levante around that price I mean he's in his thirties. Now at least thirty one described his last big. We'll say quote unquote big contract. So we can keep him around that ten million. I think that'd be good Shag bury the good thing about shack. Bears contract is that he's already making fifteen million dollars so if we can keep him around fourteen or fifteen dollars been we're gucci as the young kids would say next. Oh it's freaking. Chris godwin i mean i know we heard the report earlier today. You know. I think. I reported to you that you know mike evans said he would you know. Give up some cash to stash people on the team. You know what i mean like. He said he would give it up but it. That's a lot of money. mike. I know you make a good amount. But that's a lot of money to be able to not only pay you pay the people and then you gotta think about antonio brown you bring him back. Which antonio brown made a lot of money he made eight hundred eight hundred thousand dollars just for winning the super bowl so antonio brown is okay. I can see him keeping his contract low and going incentive based but if they do decide because you think about it although crisci won't make some great catches and i would love to keep them. You got tyler johnson. You could bring a be back you still got. You know gronk you're gonna get your tied in back. Oj howard You know you're still gonna have a pretty good debt at receiver so acting. If anybody's going to be the cap casualty with be chris godwin and thanks to very happy but but we did come says. That is gonna getting chris gall but he's gonna wanna make more money now that he's he's gonna wanna make more money and he's excelled. He's another person that. I sailed beyond that beyond ben second a second round window you know. He's really excelled. and now. here's the caveat. So mike evans says hey. I'm going to sacrifice some money if somebody like tom. Brady gronk if these guys contribute. You know less. Say and i've mentioned this listen. Jp might be like you know what. I won three superbowls you know. I think i've had enough and again to man you know. I got a super bowl. You know approved myself better than gerald mccoy. All these years You know. I you know i'm real number ninety three. You know i'm gonna get outta here He might be another one that my take cut or you know. Move on because you have those guys. It's really going to just come down to lie. Hey we want you by. Are you working with us jewel when you know you know. That is a high chance that you're going to be you know number one wide receiver. People wanna go after. Do you want to play for the jets. The lions that texans the patriots. A washington football team they. Do you want to play for the jacksonville. Jaguars and trevor lawrence like you. If that's what you wanna do because those people that probably would have the money to do it like. Do you want to do that or do you wanna stay right in tampa which a pit bull and you girl you know if you want. Stay right here in tampa. You know running around and is nice. Beautiful weather getting passes from the goaty notoriety. No and just take a couple of tak- a small hit you know like instead of getting the fifteen and sixteen million maybe your second contract you take seven to eight million. Maybe you know like you take eight to nine million and you just route. Chris is out to. Do you want to make money or deavere. Run this back in. That's ultimately going to be the thing. And i can see tom giving up some money. Tom only no money. Let's be honest. Time do not need no money. He just sold his condo. I think another house. He's got endorsements at the oiseaux is probably gonna get another one. I mean tom. O'neil come on so airfare grown. I just had a hilarious. Your breathe decides. He's not reciting back to say he says. I'm going to back up tom. Brady oh my god that would be too much. I could see drew. Because i think they said something about redoing his contract in new orleans. Also it's one of those things you know and again. That's something that tom could easily do. Tom wants a running back. Tom did everything for an abc. To come in. I think tom is going to stay loyal to tom. He's gonna do whatever time wants to do. Gronk is gonna come back. Like i said he's gonna come back. It's really like the yellow is like garwin shaq barrett. I i mean. But i stay. I'm not making a million on that franchise tag. I only really really have to do. I read this. And i know you're gonna say while they phones. I read this pro. Football focus article buchan ears and they were saying and i'll quote it. If it comes down to levante david or shaq barrett the decide of the ball. The choice shushi all linebacker and ninety year buccaneer generated twice as nearly as much Wer a tampa than bear. The course of the last two seasons. And it's gonna cost far less. I couldn't understand why they would say that. I mean don't get me wrong. I love shaq barrett. brings you know. Can they do the same thing. I know that they is a tough one. Man it's a tough one I mean i appreciate that. Don't you got how how you get the band back together again. I do want everybody to come together. But i mean shot rings. He got. I do know that they are high on anthony nelson. I know that And at the end of the day you know anthony nelson will come in. You also have the possibility If the texans just so happen. I mean if they just so happen to free j. J. watt. I mean jay playing. Yikes you think about it. Jj is his. He's the last year of his deal. Right seventeen million. It's in that same area. That in a shack is in thirty two years old. You know he can move a little bit not as not as dominant but you know the work ethic is still there you know in. He'll be second in the gym or on the you know in the building after time You know he might just be devon white. They're like by microseconds I don't know. I think that's it's just one of those things like i mean. If i'm the bucks. I really take good hard. Look at this and say hey if we lose sag barron. Do we make the deal and try to trae for. Jj watt. maybe he restructures his deal Again this open man. I got like i said. I think it's gonna come down to those little we think about the show mccoy's retiring we can let go of mickens and some of those guys that i really really don't care about you. Make a decision on steny like you know. I don't know if if he's the long-term answer he really really did. Good though e really really good East twenty six years old. I don't think he's making a lot. I mean he's making pretty much minimum so he could get a. I think he'll get a bump. It's not gonna be a lot unless another team says. Hey give you seven eight million dollars which is very possible. It is light. He's he's a young guy. Twenty six years old. He six seven million. You know in the box might just try to give them to three million and then hey take it or you don't about here play alongside of trump out there. Jacksonville exactly I guess last points about these proteins for the draft You think it's what do you think the chiefs go after evening. The bucks What would need do you think the bucks go after in the draft first round second round when whenever the chiefs are legitimate. Third dr receiver. Like i think that's a huge issue that they have they kinda got exposed that way. They didn't really have anyone else to really throw to. Outside of travis kelsey entire kill them having a them. Having legitimate third option will definitely get them pretty far like someone that actual hosting throws consistently true not sporadically like walking train. Golan harmon robison argue. I think outside of that. I think they need a. They need a linebacker. Someone that can have as a project in. I think they just need a little bit more debt in their offensive line. That that's what they need for the cheese. The non. I think would be good for the bucks. That one's tricky so they have a lot of veteran leadership in the states cannot so can i. can i give you a lifeline. Shore so every year. I feel like in the first round the bucks. Draft some wine to really. They have the best player on the board. But it's always to replace somebody. So when i'm looking at this i wouldn't be surprised if we see the bucks. Take someone to replace one of those veterans. So just think about the veterans on the team. And then say okay. Yeah makes sense now. I can do this. So which veteran do you think that bucks would try to replace it burns on the floor. Accept they get back put in position to replace. It could be somebody that's under contract for awhile telephone. I i can agree. It's definitely tough. And i don't really know okay. I didn't. the tight end position is pretty locked in a wide receiver. I mean hotel mike. Right calls it. He go the lead dog there but even if he does call it. I mean tom brady has shown that free and throw to anybody again. Yeah me what you think offense or defense. I think it's gonna be defense. At least the first pick i can. I can agree with that So i'll save for the chiefs. I definitely think it's going to be often to line. Because they just need to make sure that they protect their asset facts. I know they lost. You know their top tackle and you know they had to flip things around but some of the other linemen they they really were holding up their own so i would say that will probably be in their future. If not vail beginning divas a back to replace either brisson commie soup lake city brillon or deondraye. Who hasn't been as successful if they would hold but you know he's there For the bucks. I could see them. Drafting another hybrid defensive lineman slash linebacker and this is regardless of weather bear. Come back or not. I think there with anthony anthony nelson pick I think they are going to try and continue to give people on that front in front seven because for some reason they believe in the back. Four i don't know why but the believe in called davis and they believe in you know dean in those guys back there. This is how terrible they play a whole year They believe in the second ability day. Step that like out. And i'm going to give them flack forever. So you have to worry about but yeah i think That's one of those things. i think. it'll be a deepens alignment. I don't think we're gonna drop off and we're gonna draft player. Even if we lose chris godwin unless unless there's just a wide receiver there if or receiver. That's best like like like it's hard to pass Like i if some ridiculous way like you say you. Long term solution on. Enure operative wives the last draft patricia worth ryan omar one of the best picks in my entire frigging history of liking the bucks i wanted endemic ensues so bad all those years ago i gerald but i wanted don against them so bad i wanna cowan johnson so bad but i just felt like the lions are always in a position to take the players that i always wanted but this all been waiting for twenty for twenty years. I've been waiting for an iowa. Lineman omar god. I wanted an iowa or wisconsin linemen. I felt like those. Are the guys that you go after and we just never did it but if it just so happens and i don't know if this is reality or this is just like you know some crazy if devante smith somehow bell all the way down in the first round administration the butts would have to take him. I mean they would have to. But most likely it'll be a divas alarm and They drafted way too many bags I think it'll be free agency for bag of the ad anybody I don't think we need another linebacker. But they could go linebacker depth to replace levante as his last contract. I'll say But most likely it's going to be a linemen most likely this is good to see the bucks man. Chief south of the bucks What a great great super bowl. We didn't really get a chance to say how great the game was. I mean it was really really teammates jack about that. Yeah it was a really really good game. I'm really happy with the way that they were able to buy. They i mean the bucks or able to play their style of football And you know. I'm hoping that moving forward. You know they come out faster and not play like they're playing the giants that that one game like. That team never looked like they were winning soup. Modena's play the bears. I would never known that this team played in the super bowl. And whenever i see the bucks on a schedule gis claims my cheeks. Yikes yikes I thoroughly enjoy watching this game more. Still because everything that i said last show ended up being exactly what happens when it happens. Mistakenly happy to you. Act like you're team won the super bowl man. I'm pretty. I'm alice hype for you. I was still for you. Man like if anyone deserved in i editor. Anyone deserves to have their team win the super bowl this year the role the harsh shits the tears shed heartaches ari its stock leasing. Folks like like he deserted. He isn't example of true football team. Fan who'd jerseys. Like they do their underwear don't and I just can't see why anybody would want to do that. Like i know there are some good players out there and you know you want to ride with that player. But then it's it's the it's going sound in sports. It's what we have such an issue of a basketball. No i'm a rocket fan through and through whatever happens through through and i'm so glad gone their girls and i'm happy about that because we didn't give up the whole farm november so we'll see what apple see you doc like. You really do deserve this win. I'm like seriously. I'll just happy that your team made it to the super bowl and they absolutely dominated the cheese and everyone's talking about how they let this happen. Well if you watch the games he would see the patterns. Yeah and what that we're gonna take a quick break and come right back with debate amongst trans right after this at the end of every show we do. What's called the two minute drill where we go over stories and headlines that we didn't get a chance to cover during the show this week. The aforementioned new york knicks did fire former nick. Derrick rose reuniting him also with tom kids for dennis smith junior at twenty twenty one second round. Pick proud so happy about that. And i'm really happy about fred. Vanvleet bleed a player who. I spoke so highly. Eeo wanted to be a nick and he got a contract extension fifty four million dollars. Here's playing to that contract. I'm just proud active doc. Yeah i'm pretty proud of him as well. He's worked really hard for new coach. Dan campbell Of the detroit. Lions has made a higher poaching ass right. I said it poaching new super bowl winning offense of assistant from the bucks antwan randle el and he's going to be hired as they are receivers coach. That's so sad. But i'm happy for antoine and long but that's all we have for today. Show be sure to tune in next week. For the finale as we will go over the season in review as well as your hall of fame choices or twenty twenty one tune in next week. 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Clutch Rodgers, Brady/Mahomes, Cowboys offense

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Clutch Rodgers, Brady/Mahomes, Cowboys offense

"Welcome to first things. First, it is a Tuesday morning. I'm John Wolf. That is the hall of fame, Chris Carter. Got big mega millions plan. Oh boy here you. So you're the one that is convinced you're gonna win already. Spent most your money coming into work tomorrow. Let's go get this today. We contributions from everyone. This is your last chance. Got it. Success l.. Let me found in Pittsburgh, but our for stories are big story, drama, plain out at Lambeau Field, Monday night football Packers hosting is pick this up with Green Bay trailing in the fourth under two minutes to play Rogers Davante Adams in the end zone tied at thirty Rogers four, twenty five yards passing two scores next drive that was CJ Beth rd picked off by Kevin king. That was too much time for Rogers with ten seconds to go. He it's Adams who had a hundred and thirty two yards on the night setting up Mason Crosby a week after he missed five kicks against the lions Crosby nails the game winner this time as time expires all orchestrated by that guy right there, Aaron Rodgers Packers win here is Rogers on his kickers. Redemption. It's very apropos. What he you went through last week. And the team, the stick with them guys to kind of wrap arms around him and courage them. The way that we do for our teammates was was great. And then he responded, you know, the crowd, my thought was very encouraging. I was trying to figure out if I, if it was kind of a sarcastic cheer, but I felt like it was a pretty heartfelt encouragement after he made, you know four field goals in three extra points. So he was obviously very happy afterwards, and we're very happy for him. I. So there's two ways of looking at this game. You could look at and say, boy, Aaron Rodgers, unbelievable game yet again, or you could say, you know, the Packers should not have gone to in this situation where they were this close against a forty Niners team who is not playing well, see which one were you more impressed with with Aaron Rodgers? Or were you more worried that this came down to the very end serious concerns about Green Bay. There's no way the game should be contested as it is, but you have to give credit in hand the staff there in San Francisco, getting the team ready, getting a backup, quarterback and CJ Bedford ready to play. I mean, I've love his play calling for them to build to make his mini big plays against his Green Bay defence, you know that right there would have to cause you concern. But on the other hand, you have to look at it was cow Shanahan got a quarterback Ray to play is couched Shanahan really the quarterback whispered. Look at the impact that these hat on quarterbacks impact on Maddie ice forget about the MVP season. But when he leaves not only. Cleveland when he left when he left Atlanta and now him being with Jimmy Garoppolo CJ to me, that was one of the things Green Bay. I'm concerned about them in cal- Shanahan getting his team ready in a young quarterback, ready to play on a big stage Monday night. I was very, very impressed with them and what they did offensively. What Rogers did last night was magical? There are reasons to be concerned about Green Bay, and I know we're going to get into those, but he had to perfect two minute drives. The second one wasn't even a two minute drive. He went, seven plays sixty seven yards in forty three seconds in forty three. Second, he he got from his own forty five down to a chip shot. Field goal, four plays in nineteen seconds. He was in such total control on that final drive of the game where he kept looking over to McCarthy one more play. And then with six seconds left, no. Let me get one extra play, just. So when Mason hits this field goal, we don't have to kick off that was the play wearing his throwing it out of bounds. It was perfect ball placement. Yes. Some of them were devante atoms, but one of them was equanimity is Saint Brown. One of the plays on the first two minute drive was to Marquez vault a scant Ling. Couple of these rookies that he had not been on the same page within training camp. He was just perfect Aaron Rodgers last night, and that's what's so frustrating. You need perfect Aaron Rodgers to steal a win at home against CJ Beathard and credit to Kyle Shanahan because you're right man. It does feel like give them a quarterback, give them a couple of weeks and he will scheme in up and so I gave him a ton of credit, but you're at this if this was in San Francisco, I feel differently Monday night game on the road for Green Bay. Okay. Fun to have this game. Come down to the wire at home before your by when you've already been shaky, but you have an opportunity because the bears lost because of how your divisions looking this. Huge game and Aaron Senate after the game because of who you have coming up. Next, Aaron brought it up. Visit me looking at the schedule. He said, we got the by. Then we got a really tough slate, two games coming. We'll see who we really are, who they are right now is Aaron Rodgers in some guys and Demonte Adams is a good player. I think Kenny Clark's good player, but they're not getting helped him in my mind from their coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball from their head. Coach and Rogers has to make magic against a team. You shouldn't have to make magic against which everyone here knows and agrees. He's fully capable of doing the tough slate, two games, you say, coming Rams and patriots back to back in the road blind the road, which is going to be tough houses. Stain -able is it to say, no matter what happens. This guy's going gonna bail us out because next, right? He had to play his absolute best to beat CJ Beathard and the forty Niners at home. Oh no. You forget about just Aaron Rodgers planet as best. But this defense not only running but passing, and now you're talking about going against those. What do you think those teams are going to do? And they have quarterbacks far more capable and weapons more capable of them what the Packers faced last night. So I would be concerned minute if the Packers had lost this game. I mean my goodness. I don't know what the story lines would be, but might McCarthy them. They can wake up this morning and realize, yes, we do have Aaron reiver's, but the next couple of weeks, man, this defensive, it's not better. They're going to get through this game to me was a perfect microcosm for what the last half decade of football in Green Bay has been Aaron Rodgers covering up for all of the words of the team. Aaron Rodgers covering up for what I think is an uninspired game plan on both sides of the ball. Aaron Rodgers covering up for what has been a franchise that I feel is squandering the prime of one of the greatest players ever. I hate to be negative after team gets a great win like that. And I know the people, Wisconsin they were watching the NL CS. They see the brewers take it. To one lead. They flip over this Rogers. Execute this two minute drill to great, great. But you look at this from thirty thousand feet. You let CJ Beathard and Raheem Mostert Moster run wild on you. Like that's what you let happen. These guys that were were third stringers on anyone's depth chart to start the season. Those guys put up thirty points in your building. Those guys had it to where we're Aaron Rodgers needed a vintage performance, and I don't wanna take anything away from the vantage performs because he executed two two minute drills in three minutes. It was perfect, but it's really concerning for a team that I I think a lot of people thought going into the year Rogers healthy. Why can't they go to the Super Bowl? Why can't they come out tough NFC way Rogers every year that should be to go. Those should be the questions every year in Green Bay, but their inability to stop the run. I mean, they got good at running. The football couldn't start marquees him PR Garson I give here credit, but. I mean, the only threat they had last night was was good when that they had to guard, they couldn't stop him. So the next three weeks, Green Bay season, man, it will. We're going to get a real snapshot of who we think they are and going against what we think to be better offense as and better teams in the league. Let me ask you quick question Mark. Marquees. Good because he was a legitimate track star like that was where he made his name, but that is really, he does one thing. Great. Straight-line speed and not a whole bunch of other things really well, right when you're ski, isn't that a relatively easy receiver to scheme against? If you know you just have to make sure he doesn't get behind you wo- the thing now we look from, let's go to Miami Albert bell. Let's go tower Wilson Wilson. Let's go to your guys hiring Tyree q. right now in the NFL offenses are we're gonna pass the ball, but these offenses are finding spaces for speed guys, and I've never seen the number of speed guys playing playing well at the same level. So it has a lot to do with offense of coordinators taking. Advantage of these defenses at now because you can't bump and run these guys as much baking get off the line of scrimmage and build the threaten the defense in a way with their speed. That's it's hard to duplicate. So that's what I see. And that's why c Goodwin in Shanahan has taken advantage of that speed and really develop them as a receiver Packers escape with a win over the forty Niners. We'll have both Mark Schleyer and Eric Mangini out here to talk about his game, much more. But coming up Brady, his head has some praise for the chiefs that you're going to want to hear. That's next person. Robin Hood is an investing app that let you buy and sell stocks. ETF s options and cryptos all commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone. Not just the wealthy Robin Hood is a non intimidating way for stock market newcomers to invest for the first time with true confident, Robin Hood is simple and intuitive with a clear design that shows data presented in an easy to digest way. Here's why I recommend Robin Hood, no commission fees, other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every trade, but Robin Hood doesn't charge commission fees trade stocks and keep all of your profits. 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Patrick Mahomes nearly pulled off a miracle comeback against Tom Brady leaving quite the impression on the New England quarterback. Offense, heat delivers the ball. Those guys have a lot of speed. They catch and run with it. You know, tyreek sale play there at the end was pretty spectacular. You know, jump up, you know, catch the ball on and ability to celebrate his. You know, there's no one like the NFL. He's just he's so talented. So between Kelsey hunt, Sammy Watkins, you know the way Mahomes can throw the ball, it's it's going to be up to stop those guys too. So they got they got a good team. Sure. I'm sure they'll be there in the end. One thing it was noticed about Tom Brady, he watches the game even when he's on the sideline. He knows what everyone else does. He he's so tuned into how good his opponents are or when he goes to game plan against them. See which team do you trust more moving forward, the patriots or the chiefs. It's hard to say you trust another team more than you trust patriots because it's not Xs and os. It's all the situations that lead up to it. It's all the players over the next ten weeks that are going to be hurt all the just moments that you're going to have to make who's going to reinvent themselves week after week, which team will be better. Now in December and New England has passed all those things with flying colors like so it's it's not a matter of Xs knows they have Tom Brady Bill Belichick. They face more adversity than any team out there. It's the patriot in how they do things is is what I have to trust more. Now, Kansas City has a lot of town. I believe they're off. Will be explosive. It's hard to be last in yards per game in think you're going to trust that defensively because yeah, I mean that right there that's time of possession right there. So you're going to have game would if you have bad weather and what if you have a game, where team has the has the ball thirty six thirty eight minutes how you gonna win those games. You have to play a perfect game. Can't turn the ball over so puts a lot of pressure on offense. That's why I gotta trust to the pets more. We both sat here yesterday and said that we believe the chiefs are better than if this game were in Arrowhead. They would've won that the patriots played their perfect game. Ten more seconds are. Chiefs got the ball last. They have one and that the chiefs have reinforcements coming in the form of Justin Houston and potentially Eric berry. I still believe all of those things by also think you have to trust the patriots more because the patriots, we know they can sustain injury. We've seen them do it. We know they can execute a playoff comeback. We saw him do it two years ago in the Super Bowl last year, knaves championship game against the Jaguars. What's the chiefs playoff memory blowing a three score lead to Marcus mariota at home. That was this past year. I understand. It's a different quarterback. What's right? What's Andy Reid? Great. Playoff memories with the chiefs there aren't any losing the game that I mentioned. Right. They're losing a game to the Steelers where you score touchdowns. They score non, it's at home and you still lose that game. Like for all of those reasons, you have to trust the pass more even if you think the chiefs are better, even if you think the chiefs are more talented that what they earned and what Brady's earned. And I don't coach mate. A very interesting point yesterday when I pressed him on our if you don't believe in Patrick Mahomes, what young quarterback do you believe Djabel even Carson Wentz and he said, well, I'd like Carson Winston a playoff game before I say that as much as I believe, Patrick Mahomes is a star in this league. His first playoff game, we saw nerves at the beginning of this game against the pats. We saw him miss a touchdown, pass to cream hunt on that wheel route. They hadn't. It wasn't that some great coverage. He just missed him. Like, what are the nerves going to be for Patrick Mahomes in his first playoff game? Because I'll tell you what Tom Brady's nerves are going to be none whatsoever. It's going to be whatever playoff game they played start their postseasons going to be roughly the thirty fifth biggest game of Brady's career. So for all those reasons, I think you have to trust the patriots more. The one thing that Tom Brady has over Patrick Mahomes is the one thing he'll always have over Patrick Mahomes until he goes through it is experience and the experience keeps you steady and common experiences made you play through all these adversity. In the different situations and all the things that this young Phoenix has yet to do. So when you talk about trust, really most of it comes with having done it. Having had a coach, put you through it and prepared you for it. Does it not. Nick foles too, and they lost. Absolutely, right. So it's about the team playing and Ken their defense, which one these defenses in most critical time can get a third down. Stop can get a turnover can who's gonna have the ball last. So last year we know New England's defense, let them bound Tom Brady plate almost as well as you can play, but turn the ball over in the most critical spot. Tom Brady turn the ball over in this game to build a Kansas City back into the game. So yes, experience. It does have something to do with it, but now men NFL. It's easy to throw the ball. It's easy to move the ball down the field so everyone can throw it. So I think the playing field has been level because there's so many guys that can play at a high level from a quarterback position because of the rule changes that I believe that the field have a better chance now of being able to remove the experience part of it because the game is so much easier. The old game used to be the regular season was one way and. The playoff. It was even more physical. You can't play that way anymore. So some of Brady's experience and a huge margin. He has owned the gap on the other quarterbacks is minimize because it's easier for everyone to build throat. A ball won. The obviously the pats have better overall defense than the Kansas City Chiefs. But there are two areas that the chiefs are much better than the patriots and and as far as slowing down the chiefs offense, I think they might be the most to to most critical stats. One is the pats are dead last in the NFL sacks, like one way to slow down this offense is to get to Patrick Mahomes. They couldn't this past week in one of those interceptions he threw was just mistake. The other one he didn't see Dan, regardless of what New England does that will not. That's exactly what I was going to says. They do not have the talent like an I know what Bella checks not going to do. He is not going to all out blitz and put his secondary out there where they can make big plays against you and get big chunks of yards. So that is one as flawed and as bad as. Chiefs defense is there to best defensive players are there to pass rushers Steve Ford in a contract year and just in Houston. A guy who's won defensive player of the year in this league before lease had twenty plus sack season in route to twenty million dollar your contract. So the chiefs will be able to get pressure on the quarterback and the other spot where that patriots have been very bad defensively. This year bottom sixteen in the league is third down defense, and you got to be able to get off the field against this chiefs team. We saw it the beginning, the first half count, beginning second, pardon me? Senate, man. There's a must score for cancer today at a third into and they hit Kareem hunt for touchdown on that play the chiefs deep into the one thing they've been good at is third down defense. We saw it to a degree in the pats game on that I drive when they forced the patriots into going for it on fourth down like, so even though I agree with you dead last in yards, that's a problem no matter what the pats have their issues as well, and that sack number that that's not they don't have the reinforcement comic. They don't have Justin Houston coming off. The injured list that's gonna come to help them out in that regard. Big as the talent gap between these two. I know we just really touched on here, but looking at two teams overall have because the town cap between the patriots and this thing, if you look at just talent and we're going to have a strength and a strip, a sparks test and everything. Of course, Kansas City is going to win. But the one thing that's not important is how how talented are you and how can you play football? And the one thing that New England players hate in the hate year after year after year, we never give them credit for being good football players. All we talk about as Bella check his adjustments. All we talk about as Tom Brady, but they got a lot of good football players on that. They know how to win, so that's not foreign to him. So yes, Kansas City has more peer athletic ability, but Bill Bella check in the way he coaches the greatest coach in the history of the league. He negates that with getting his team to build a play, putting his players in the best situation for them that take advantage of their own ability and the thing that should. Concern. The rest of the AFC regarding the pats as far as talent is you saw Tom Brady try to get Josh Gordon involve more earlier this past week. Now it looked to me like there were two times he went to him and it looked to me both times. Jeff. Gordon wasn't exactly where it was supposed to be that Brady expecting him to cut his route off a little bit shorter and he went longer. And then there was a pass in the end zone where Collins, seven, broadcast, I think it was right Brady expect him to sit down on the soft part of his own, and he just kept going across the field. If Josh Gordon over the next ten weeks can stay on the field and can get more in sync with Brady than that more of a talent equalizer than I anticipated the patriots being able to bring in midseason. All right. We gotta take a break coming up on the other side talks and Cowboys has Dak Prescott sobbed all douses problems on offense. That's next. Back here. First things first joined by old friend with new takes March slayer. You go does apply. You went with the two n n j. Yeah, that's. Hi. Margaret costs still talking about the Cowboys who managed to pull off the surprise of the weekend beating the Jags forty, two, seven. That was a surprise, their offense, rents movie. That was a surprise into top it all off. It was led by Dak Prescott who used his legs to his advantage. A queer eye eighty two yards on the ground and a rushing touchdown. Just opened everything. As I said, some of it was it was called runs and just read options, and the end gave us the Redick, keep it. And then a couple of them are just madman protection or man to man coverage and the protection, solid able to get out of the pocket and make them pay at that point a minute was they needed to get a spy makes him adjustments on their part and just opened up, opened up everything for offense. I think the first couple of games we wanted to see Zeke run the ball more and then they finally gave him more carries and we were excited than we wanted to see what dad could do if he was able to run the offense a little bit more his way he ran for eighty two yards and we were happy, but how sustainable is that? How much of a threat can the Cowboys often speak if they hand the ball to Dak and ask them to run? Well, I mean, again, I think I think the thing you have to understand about this, the integrity of balance. When you have balance, then you have a defense has to defend multiple things. And when you have that you could be successful. You take a lot of pressure off an offense of wines. I think that's a big. I think that's a big issue with them right now. How sustainable is it? Well, how willing is Dak Prescott to take care of himself? How Williams he disliked down and not take a hit because I think it's, I think, in my opinion is probably changed on this over time. I think it can be sustainable if you're had eleven carries if you know five or six of those designed runs. But when you're running read option stuff, you're just reading the defensive end and then you're getting around the edge without like there is you'll see everything in front of you are not getting blindsided. It's not like you're running quarterback counter between between the tackles. So I think it's, I think it's a sustainable thing for them. I think the biggest thing is it takes pressure off that offense of line when you're able to run play action game like that. And I always think about it this way. I always wanted to know every quarterbacks drop and how long that quarterback was going to hold the ball for on a particular on particular pass route. So I knew anything. It was a deep over. I knew that, you know, that's a seven step drop. That's gonna take some time. All goes a five step, dropped ball's. Gonna be out like that. So a five step drop more. I know the balls out I can attack line of scrimmage. I can actually run block that. And even if I with, they're not getting my quarterback because balls out so quickly. So when you have the integrity of balance, you have an opportunity to take an offense of line. That's been marginalized to some degree because of injury, and because of young players and make them really good, make them look like they can shine. And that's really what happens when you have that going on. They have in Dallas last week, Jackson NFL teams do adjust is a sustainable to me. No. So I disagree with one the reason why is his only two quarterbacks in the recent NFL era that have been able to do it in do it successfully in the reason why? Because they're freaks of nature recently Cam Newton when his MVP season, he's the only guy that's been able to do it. He's also the best running quarterback in the history of this game when people say, well, what about Michael Vick? Michael Vick was unable able to do in his team to the promised land. They get to the Super Bowl Colin Kaepernick. The other guy, only guy that could do it why he's a free six, five, two, twenty five to thirty. And neither one of these guys came a little more so than cap. They don't get hit square an awful lot. So that has a lot to do with the Shawn Watson, we saw him last week's game. I mean he got banged around he, oh, I can do this. No, you can't laps lung. There's only a couple of people that been able to do it. So that's the reason why he s you can win a game or two. Yeah, you might build a win your division. You might be able to get through the wildcard round, but in the end of it Cam Newton, what brought him down the rush of the rush of the Denver Broncos in his inability, throw the ball down the field. Colin Kaepernick had one play the Bill to win the Super Bowl, throw a fade pattern to Michael Crabtree. He couldn't build a dude at. So ultimately at the end of it, the guys that win and win big in this league, they do it. From the pocket. So if the Dallas Cowboys as long as that is their quarterback, if they want to run him, no, you might win a couple of games, but as a fan of the ultimate, the Super Bowl, you're not gonna build a win the Super Bowl and why? Because the history of this league it tells us that has proved out to be in two thousand eighteen. It's more important to have a passer than ever. The score of this game is misleading to how the Cowboys offense actually work. They scored forty points. You would think, okay. In today's NFL score, forty points down the field pass. It's not what happened at all. The reason why I would temper my enthusiasm bit. If I were the Cowboys despite Dax performances, tax, rushing threat, didn't add. They're passing attack his right around his average for the year, which is sub two hundred yards per game. It all is gonna come back. We can ask this question a lot of different ways. It's gonna come back to the same answer right now, the Cowboys. What is their problem on offense? They have a quarterback who at this moment is limited. ID throwing the football down the field, and they have the least explosive group of wide receivers and the NFL I add in for just go on that list. Well, not anymore Goodwin be attracts our last night and bureau. Garson would be clear number one on Dallas. We thought Alan Hearns might be able to get thousand yards. He would. I mean, a thousand yards for the rest of his career in Dallas is what he's projecting to like. So they're going south Cowboys plan football for a long time. This is the worst group why receives they ever had in the history of the team. So their quarterback is going to have to run based on the lack of explosive players that they have. So one of the things that you get into though is to create a passing him. You don't want you don't want him throwing more than twenty five twenty seven balls again, just don't. So one of the things about their plash and with him running in that threat. There are so many things like play action to me is a way to suck up underneath coverage, and you're just throwing one receiver routes to a whole. That's how the whole x. drift. You know the washer. Redskins with our g three thousand yards passing during the course of a season with RG three when he was rookie of the year on lax drift. And it's a one route throat thousand yards and that throw is ninety. Two percent complete. You can't cover it. It's a two man route and you've got one guy's your primary. That's it. That's all you're looking at and they were able to create that in what you're doing here for for Prescott is you say, we're going to create of your throne twenty five times we're gonna three, create at least twelve to fourteen fifteen automatic completions. You walk into the game, you'll be twelve twelve doing this and then it's just what you do on your drawbacks. If you can complete fifty percent of your drop bags, and we run the ball with this threat. We're gonna win this stuff. Now I'm one hundred percent with CeCe like if you're just saying, hey, that run around like Cam Newton us. Eventually, you're gonna break ribs, and you're gonna get, you know, you'll punctured lung and. You won't play very long and the difference between like Russell Wilson is great at this Russell Wilson going into last week, and I haven't watched their game in London yet, but I had their game before. He had one designed one Keri one, rushing one, rushing off a rezone on the whole season. He carried at one time designed run. One design run. The others were just scrambles that he had to get out of the pocket. One designed run on the season going through five weeks in doc is not a good athlete is a Wilson is not as family ask differently. How much does the threat of him running help open up the often this is the thing NFL teams are going to change the reason why it worked this weekend Carolina's I mean, Jacksonville played a lot of man to man when you're playing man to man. When the receiver runs off the db, his eyes go with the wide receiver. He's not looking at the quarterback, but let me tell you what you do. Three man to four man rush. You take eight guys in all eight sets of eyes and keep them on the quarter. You dropped seven guys in the coverage. You rush four and you got seven sets of eyes on the quarterback. That's why you're not able to do this over the course of a season. And that's why in the play offs, you're not able to advance because even if you play action the linebackers, it's not as distinct of fake because the linebackers aren't planning to running back to man to me because prior to this week, historically, Blake Bortles was more effective runner. They enact Prescott the quarterback in that game going into that game who had a better history of running. The football successfully was Blake, Dax career-high, rushing was forty five yards. So as much as the Cowboys talked about it, I would imagine Jacksonville, you talked about how you would have your team at least once a quarter once once every quarter of a season. Once every four games throw you a go route. So the other team had in there in that game. So they have to worry about it. There's no four or fourteen game studied prior to this past week where a team playing Dax like man, he might run the ball a dozen times. Let's just go back. The beginning of the season, everything with expectation dowels with their lack of playmakers which one these guys is going to evolve. Imagine we had the same storyline. Same question we have right now. Well, Dax going to run more. Would we have been excited about that before the season? No, this is the way this offense is evolving because of Dax inability to build a throw to football now stink makes a great point sixty five seventy NFL place. All right, so I know I got thirty five runs in their baked in there no matter what. It's other five ten plays. What do I do with those? Because if you give those today, he goes from on twenty five times to thirty five times. So I understand what stinks trying because as a game plan, we're trying to get them sixty five seventy plays and give yourself the best chance of winning which that would. But once you get to the playoffs when you have to be more explosive, your margin air becomes real small. All right. Let's take a break Mark stick around much on this and other things. I love him. Duck mouth all. Our Lady and bow turn some heads with its latest decision Wiki here. It's next. Thursday night football returns this week as Miller in the Broncos battle Josh Rosen in the cardinals, and I'll start the seven thirty eastern on FOX NFL network and streaming on Brian video. And call it the game on. Speaking of dog back with Clara, right? That's what you that's speaking dog. He said they need you dog. So I leave that on there. They need. Some dogs is what they need right. Talk from this corner stores start your morning pets. You just have brought down from Sunday. I'll stick with broadly dog Assad, Kansas City linebacker. Bruins speaks up here to let go of Tom Brady before the pats quarterback ran into the end zone for a touchdown Sunday night, speak said that the new rules were on his mind during the play, but that he does have to finish the place e, what do you make of this? We've seen this happen before, but the emphasis own the quarterbacks and landing I can understand. But more importantly, they had defensive pass interference. They would've had I and down on the on the one yard line. Anyway, it was third down and four scans which was holding in the back of endzone so they still would have scored on first down. I'll tell you don't be stupid to tackle Zach guy. How will you be thinking about the rules about thinking about your job. Whole thing about the rules while they're doing their job, the job little too fast, but that's what they are expecting the the lot. A lot. When you're trying to make a play, you're just trying to make a play, stopping the good people league office. Okay. Next choice onto the people knew were in over this was that was good when you can say all the time and it's you're in Denver to see the Broncos lose to the Rams you call the game Broncos have now dropped four in a row. Coach Vance. Joseph says, quote, everyone is fighting for our lives stink. How bad are things in Denver right now? Well, they're bad. I mean, you can't lose four rogue couple that with last year losing Nate in a row. I think Vance, Joseph is one in ten on the road since he got there as the head coach of the Denver Broncos and then you go to the jets and you only get ramshackle them. You gave three hundred twenty three yards. Rushing the first team in history to give back to back Russia's for two hundred yards. Is it bad? Yeah, everybody everybody's on alert. Everybody's job is on on point, right? Everybody except John Elway John Elway just like his quarterback. He got that hit coach thing wrong. I hate to say everyone ain't cut out the beano head coach, and I don't believe that the Broncos have one is far as their head coach. I guy prior to get fired right there in them. If they lose Thursday to eras on Josh Rosen a quarterback, they could drafted five by the way, then I don't know of fans, Joseph survives it to the next week at Kansas City. I in the latest would love him. Bowel reports were that bell would show up sometime this week thinking was that he choked up in week, seven Steelers by week at paid, and then actually play in week announce being reported. The Steelers are not expecting beltway return this week after all stink. What do you make of all this? I just is so interesting to me that we as players have all thought to make the league better that we could get paid, that we could get taken care of that we could get insurance that we could get all these things. And here's a guy fighting for his right to get paid to get a long term deal, not a fake long-term deal, but a real long term deal with guaranteed up from money and the players in that organization. Have sided with the leak. Never. I never ever at any time in my life seen and then now it's like, oh, well, why doesn't Levy on wanna be here? I wanna play with you guys either. Wouldn't. Why would I wanna play with you a bunch of Benedict Arnold. I have never in my life and you can sit there and say, this is this is why to me, the Steelers are the one of the most talented teams in the in the National Football League, and they'll win a lot of games. But when push comes to shove and you got to go to New England or you gotta play a tough team, you're going to get beat but stink. This is the thing when you have miscommunication. And I think that's probably the biggest thing that happened here when you go to your brother's in the locker room. And the reason why it seems as if the offense of Lyman or on the side of the organization on the side, the league is because you told me something else. So it's hard for me to represent you. When you tell me you're going to be there at the beginning. If you had told me that you're going to beat man, I'm not. I'm not coming this year. I'm, they're not going to give me a long term deal. I'm not going to be there to week ten. You know what I would have said bre fight you and for your family. No problem. We got a clear line and then I wouldn't have been. Supported in week number one. When I go to an interview and be like, yeah, my my man is going to be here in a couple of days. So you, you may mean bad? Right? So I didn't side with the organization. I sided with got a job to do a job. You don't want to do. All right. So I got to go out and take care of my family. I'm independent contractor. I can only support you when you when you and I are on the same page so them not being on the same page. It would give the image of man. They're supporting organization, but I'm supporting myself, but I got a job to do. I got my own career. I can't put my career on hold for you and what you're trying to absolutely understand that. And my point would be that I'm not gonna say anything because I am no die. We'll keep like I understand that you're disappointed that you wanna play with like that's fine. You got his number texting, do Manam miss you. I wish you were here understand what you're doing, but to be prepared to play a game. And that's what you're talking about and you're talking about a guy and his money and what he's going through and by the way, yeah, was gonna come. But then my agent told me, I don't know what's going on behind closed doors, made my agent say, listen, man, I have a deal worked out for you right now. Just keep your mouth shut. Don't go. Don't don't leave the house. So I just have never seen anything like it. I just think it's dysfunctional and and it really that part of it bothers me obviously, wholeheartedly agree with you on that lady on bell is fighting for something whether he recognized or not, and whether or not the discussion recognizes or not greater than he is he, he's a sensually trying to set a line in the sand, whether he knows it or not for players across the league of his caliber, that franchise. But he's not though in the reason why is because his stats are totally different. It's not his. Russia's, it's not as carries. It's not his touchdown. It's all the other information that they have in his file. The reason why they won't pay him the franchise. So you can't represent a group of people that Todd Gurley not like him. Ezekiel Elliott's not like you Kareem hunt, not going to be like, you don't have the suspension. Zeke does. Zeke has do not. Do he doesn't. He's not one drug test away from missing year. I understand that but the, but that's not the point I'm making see. I'm not saying that the reason that he's not getting paid is like, why other guys wouldn't get paid. What I am saying is whoever the next great player because he's a great player that a team that is a Super Bowl contender is considering franchise tagging. I think they will have in their calculus man. What if he sits out ten games? Because that's always what a franchise player could do. And we hadn't seen someone to at what since Vincent Jackson, we'd seen one guy do it in the last fifteen years in this league guy, get franchise tag and actually make. The team pay the price of, okay, I'm not going to show up for the first sixty five percent of the season. And so lazy I'm Bill is not the perfect messenger. He does have miscommunication with team does have a checkered drug history. He he has done some things that I think may comme hard person to root for at times. Could you understand how the the organization would perhaps not wanna sign him to a long. Exactly. Right? Here's his. Here's the issue though. I don't have any problem with you. Not want to sign him to a long-term. Exactly. I don't. I understand. I understand the consequences. I understand that he's one drug test. One Phil drug test away from not playing understand the suspensions understand the. He's head injuries, understand all that so, but don't act like you gave them a seventy million dollar contract that was market value because your contract was about twelve to fifteen million dollars short on guaranteed money compared to the other running backs that are comparible and that's, that's the issue, don't don't throw it out in the media life. Five years seventy seven year to your contract, right? And so I don't know about the world you live in, but the world I live in twelve million dollars or fifteen million dollars is a lot of money. You know, and that's that's generational type money. That one guy in girly has over levian bell when they're two comparable players. And that's, that's the issue. So I don't care if you don't wanna sign him, but don't act like don't act like, hey, look at what we did for you. We gave you series of one to one year one to one one year deals, and oh yeah, it's it's quite a bit less guaranteed money, but look how great we are. We gave you seventy million dollars, that's that's fake money. That's monopoly money that's move onto the Rams now a game. Again, you call this weekend stink. Rams Broncos balmy twenty seven or so twenty five kicking long sleeves. Lucky you go seek. Did you work? Yeah. Front row seats. The Todd Gurley show a career-best two hundred eight rushing yards, three scores, and most importantly, they'll win his teammate, Robert woods called girly unstoppable the Rams now improve to a league best six and though astronaut undefeated team in the league March Larry. How big is the gap nab between the Rams and the. Rest of the teams in the NFC. I think it's fairly large. I think one of the things that's interesting about the Rams is I think people look at them this potent high flying offense with three wide receivers or eleven personnel, three wives, almost one hundred percent of the time, and they give you the allusion. It's the allusion of complexity. They give you the allusion that this big time passing offense, and they're going to cut you up in the passing game when really just want thunder punch you right in the face. I mean, they just wanna Hitchin the lips and and they do a great job of it. They do have the weapons outside. They do have Sean McVay and jerk off to a great job of pushing the ball down the field, and they have a bunch of layered route concepts and and they just attack zones. They do a great job in the passing game, but at their core, there are big time, physical group, their offense of line is absolutely just punishing people right now, and they're, they're great team, and they are lay are. Head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC teams. Right? Imagine Kansas City within Domigan sue Aaron Dom because that's who the Rams are and Marcus Peters who they used to just as I just want to just keep it nice in sim. Sure. I just give you that explosive offense and just give you two guys two guys with mean disposition in just how that would change your perspective on Kansas City, how it would've changed a perspective, Kansas City in that game going against Tom Brady. So they do have the ability to build to shlo- teams down a little more so than we've seen with explosive teams that we've had in the past. So I think there's a huge gap. The problem is there's so many quarterbacks in the NFC that on a given Sunday can get hot drew. Brees can get hot carve you up for three eighty. Four hundred Cam Newton can get to eighty run for hundred ten to build a beach you. So there's a number believe the Vikings will be better at the end of the season. They get some type of running game with Dow and cook believe there is a margin right now, but when you have a quarterback, are you have special type players that I believe are in in of? See, I believe when you get in that tournament, it's still makes it very, very dangerous. I also believe that it's important at the ram can stay undefeated along so that their fan base since it's a special season because at home field advantage going to Los Angeles, no one knows what that what that would be like. But I just believe football in January and LA would be pretty special if they have a fifteen in one season fourteen and one regular the so that the momentum continues into the postseason ivory. That becomes very, very important to make sure that no one wants to come to the Coliseum in January and how big the gap will they have six wins. The second best team in the NFC has four. So I mean, that's pretty big gap through two weeks to be two wins clear the field. I think that is about where it is. I think that's about accurate. Orleans. Probably the second best team. They're the only other four win team. And then you got a bunch of teams that are three and two, three, two, and one a bunch of teams that like I think the Vikings can be really good, but we also saw big warning signs about the running game that they have not entered and about their defense that they're starting to answer, but we also saw them head to head. Yeah, in the Minnesota Vikings, not playing will look like a good football team when they were going against the rent, which is why I think the home field is the biggest point of this because it's not only about where you don't have to go. But it's about where those explosive quarterbacks don't get to play. We know where Rodgers can win a game in the snow. We don't know, Jared Goff can we know drew Brees can carve you up in his dome. We know he's a different player on in the outdoor. So for all those reasons, I totally agree. The one seat for them is of critical importance by the way under Sean McVeigh eleven. Oh, one away from home, ten and one on the road and one game in London. So eleven and one away. From home, they've lost their games at home, but I will tell you this defensively, you mentioned that you mentioned Donald. You mentioned sue, unbelievable edge pass rushes issue for them. Yes. But when they get when they get, keep delete back, keep to leave is one of the smartest football players in the National Football League. He actually meets weekly Sean McVay to go over strategy. And and I mean, this guy is phenomenal, and he's a soundtrack of that defense and they have missed him. And yet they're still six, no without one of their number one players. And he has made a huge impact on Marcus Peters in the rest of that defensive secondary. So that's something to watch when they get him back healthy and that is a formidable defense that struggled here. The last couple of weeks stink stay with us coming up today. Aaron Rodgers prove he is the best quarterback in the NFL last night. That's next. Flare Packers hosting the Niners last night, pick this up with Green Bay trailing in the fourth. Yep. Trailing under two minutes to play. Rogers hits Davante Adams in the end zone to tied at thirty Rogers, four hundred twenty five passing yards. Two scores next drive. CJ Beathard picked off by Kevin king that left too much time for Rogers less than ten ticks to go. Rogers hits Adams. He had one hundred and thirty two yards on the night. In that setup Mason Crosby a week after he missed five kicks against the lions Crosby nails the game winner as time expires, Green Bay goes on to beat the forty Niners thirty three to thirty here is Aaron Rodgers on his kickers, redemption. It's very propo-. What he went through last week and the team stick with them guys to kind of wrap our arms around him, encourage him. The way that we do for our teammates was was great. And then he responded, the crowd thought was very encouraging. I was trying to figure out I if it was kind of a sarcastic cheer, but I felt like it was a pretty heartfelt encouragement after he made you know four field goals and three extra points. So he was obviously very happy afterwards, and we're very happy for him. I stink. Are you more impressed with Aaron Rodgers was able to do with the end or are you more worried and concerned that this this game came down to the very end against Jake Beth third in the forty Niners injured as they are. And Kyle Shanahan is a really, really good coach, and he puts his players in great positions to win their physical football team, though. Run it. I really have a lot of respect for them in that regard. I'm more concerned about the Green Bay Packers and you know, you gotta think about this. Now they've fired five coach in the offseason three on the defensive side offense, coordinator, quarterbacks coach, Aaron Rodgers was not happy about firing the quarterbacks coach, and you're in a situation in this happens to great quarterbacks. I think Peyton Manning was in this. I used to say all the time back in the day when Peyton Manning was with the colts. I'm like, he covers so many wars that you think you're a lot better than you really are. They're eight talent, you know that are twelve and four every year because of the words that that guy covers. And then I was I was way off because he left with a neck injury and they went to and fourteen. I was like, no, you guys are way less down. I thought you were. I think that's, I think it's an issue. I think you create you create this scenario where that guy play so well that you think your team is better than it really is. And I think you know, Ted Thompson was another guy. They. Removed from being the general manager. So that's that's a big concern for me. This team is, I mean, this team, the San Francisco is beat down. You've got to step on the throat to the people that are be down at home at home, going into your by knowing because Rogers Senate after the game, he knows what's coming up after the. Bye. How about you go to the Rams into the patriots and back to back weeks. This was a must win. Gotta have it game at home extra day to prepare, and you need Aaron, Rodgers magic, come on like that is that's what they need every week, right? I'm glad they do to win. They need him to be magical. I'm glad you brought up the colts because here's something that's unfortunate, but it's a reality of Peyton Manning's era with the colts that was an underachieving Europe, not by Peyton, but by the organization, you have Peyton Manning for the better part of fifteen years. You make the Super Bowl twice went at once. How does that happen? Tell you out happens because you have the ultimate band aid that you decide. Okay. We can make it work with this guy, but at least Payton had Marvin Harrison than Reggie Wayne Dwight free. And then Robert Mathis at least he had some guys that we can say, okay, there's a couple of gold jackets plan alongside him era. Just got nothing like that. And at least Peyton at Tony Dungy era doesn't have that either. Like it is I, you made the point see to give Kyle Shanahan CJ Beathard credit. And I I would like to do that with with that said CJ Beathard prior to last night, under Shane hand was one in six with seventy one rating and fifty six percent completions like he has the best game of his life as a pro last night against the Packers was that say about the Packers? It says that they're Aaron Rodgers in some guys, David, Blaine, you guys for me with magician. He's a allusion l'anonima -sition illusionist, right? That's what Aaron Rodgers does for Green Bay and every since he's come there. And I remember the first time I saw David Blaine, and it was amazing because he was. Is in the Cowboys locker room, Michael Irvin prime time. They were in the locker room and he made a guy levity and they ran out of the locker room every time I see the Aaron Rodgers. I expect dislike, Blaine. I want to at least see a man Levin because I've seen it before. That's my expectation. I've already seen them before. I know what he does every time I see him he's on TV special eventually does a bunch of stuff goes into a query them all that kind of stuff. Get shamed them. I wanna see somebody come off the ground because my expectations I've seen him do it. Aaron Rodgers usual like this. When you when you're going to expect, I expected to minute drive not once twice the same thing he did last night. I'm not gonna say I wasn't impressed, four hundred twenty five yards first time in NFL history quarterback back to back game four hundred yards. No interceptions yes, but I saw make people come off the ground. This is what Aaron Rodgers does for this organization and you're right, but we think they're better than what they are. Is this really a SuperBowl caliber team only because of what you said earlier, which is he can get hot for a month. They need him to play this level for a month and to get a little lucky like that is what they have to do to win a super what has to happen then for the team to look and say, this isn't enough. It's not sustainable. We can't rely on him in the fourth quarter of two minutes left every single time, like what has to happen because he was out last few and you saw what happened with the team and they said, we don't need to fix anything. As soon as he comes back, we'll still be is just too early in the season. He's a football coach, but ultimately. The gentleman's yet, right? He no longer resides there. No, they got rid of how many coaches, five. Oh, Aaron Rodgers. Not going anywhere. But next conversation jenner's about the head coach. That's the only thing you can conversation about. We've got draft capital. We DB's. We spent some rush of some rush guys. They have not developed. We change some of the coaching staff. We got Aaron too indiscreet as far as contract. The next conversation is about that head coach. Is he the guy that makes the difference for that organization? As Manzini says, is he a force multiplier? And they're still huge question marks as far as how Green Bay Packers actually move forward and improve. I think one of the things you have to understand when you pay a quarterback that much money and he's making a ton of money, and that eats up that much of your salary cap, what you have to have and make no bones about this. Just because you coach in the NFL does not mean you're good coach. There are a lot of bad coaches in the NFL. There that have cer-. Right? They have survived because it's old boys network. Okay. So there's a lot of bad coaching. You had better figure out how you're going to develop young players because the way the way it operates, I call it the seventy thirty rule. You thirty percent of guys make seventy percent of the money. That's how your cap operates right now, your cap, essentially seventy percent of your cap is eaten up by your top ten guy, eight guys in your in your fifty three. So you damn well better have coaches that can teach young players how to play at a high level in this game. That's what says the New England, Patriots. It's exactly what sets the New England Patriots bar the why. Why do they go to into every September intern, the Super Bowl because they take a bunch of young players. They coached those guys. They teach him how to play football. They develop them during the course of the season. And at the end of the day, you watch him ULA and of the most talented team damn. They're going there. Lease. No. Accept the penalties. No turnovers, no punch. Yes. And the one turn were Brady fumble, but getting the team to play like that on a big stage like days almost every last to use one of your favorite terms drop a juice from the Barry? Yes, they get the most out of. I know that's not exactly the way you prefer grapes compared to bury my policies. Harry, good for Parfait. Grapes are good for. Thank you. Good point. Thank you, sir. Leave your phrases to you. I'll stick with that. Ain't great. However, the point is the pats have the daily double they, they get the most out of their minimum salary is and they pay in their quarterback thirty million paying him fifteen. So they have the, they have no bad contracts. They have no guys like we can't get rid of all this dead money. That's how you can make eight Super Bowls in around eighteen years. The the way the Packers can make a Super Bowl is man. Let's Rodgers can do this for three games in January. That's not a plan. That's a rare. Thank you for listening to the first things. 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Super Bowl LV recap, Brady, Mahomes, Greg Jennings joins

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Super Bowl LV recap, Brady, Mahomes, Greg Jennings joins

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The new episode drops every monday on apple podcasts. Spotify or you get your podcast. So to clubs a-share now and make sure you never miss a new episode now back to speak where you sail. You already know what we're starting with. Let's go to tampa for the bucks are super bowl. Champions and tampa's defense handed. Patrick mahomes the worst defeat in his pro career. Two interceptions and three sacks. Tom brady wanted seven title in his first year. Tampa was named super bowl. Mvp brady threw. Three touchdown passes fellow tampa. First timers rob gronkowski antonio brown take a listen to the cope after the big win. Just know big time players make them big time plays so just love what they did to the team. grants Unbelievable player teammate. Talent Work ethic commitment and ap has just since he got here. He's just done everything the right way. So so impressed by him. Proud of him Takes a lot of people for us to get to this point and You know we all have great support systems in place. And i think everyone should be celebrating. Tonight so otto. Are you more impressed with the bucks or disappointed in the big. I'll give credit where credit is due due period. Like right to me to you okay. But i can't fool to give it to you only get there later. Person i got am but boy. Hey why butts. Not only did they manhandle the chiefs mentally. But they were prepared to manhandle the chiefs physically. Right in in football is hard to say that somebody saw right. You can't do that. But them. chiefs got dominated between the white lines. Outside of the white lines anywhere you could get dominated sell. They got dominated. I gotta give a lot of opinions. Throughout the course of the show. But i if i can't i gotta start with a little bit of video sale. You go go somewhere. Boy got to go to the big board because joel. The buccaneers beat them mentally and physically but also got go to the big board more. If i'm rocking fire outfit and you know what it is when you wear something fresh anyway. Let's get away from me. Let's talk about these x.'s. And i chose. Now the first touchdown of the game it really set the tempo. Because the first touchdown of the game what happened is rob. Gronkowski is gonna loose. Let's roller tape. See out happens if three onto the chiefs could've played that three. Pass it off. But instead the two players left highlighted. Daniel sorensen at the top rob gronkowski daniel sorensen. He has gronk man to man. But if you have gronk why are you looking at the run. He was deceived the butts show to play. They hadn't shown even if he wouldn't have been looking at the run. Mike evans ready to pick off. Sorenson just right there and easy touchdown. So the buccaneers all credit for me. Because they had. You schemed out mentally running to play. You hadn't seen all but even had they not to mentally. They also were ready to be too physically with mike evans right there. So that's why. I gotta give the bucks all the credit. Let me back to the big boy now now. Now you're back to the big boy yet. Mr otto yeah. Big dogs saw friday. We were talking about this game. One of us will sound that prophetic. One of us was sounded. Putt feted let this hour raw. And let america knows who can we disarm. We've put fifteen on camera pushups in front of the big board on the super bowl back. We got we got a bit doc. You tell me fifteen percents right now. Because i'm over here pay. Thank you want to see him. I'm counting. you've read it to us that no full five six tapped out ipad fourteen fifty. I'm here to take some of this food. That's my hamstring at mock net. For reason you knew. I got give credit because you deserve flowers flowers you deserve. But i'm also give the books they flowers. Okay i'm sweating. I let me do my job because my glow period is about over right now in terms of watching witnessing the bucks dominance. I love that you started off with the fact that it seemed like there was also a mental edge out there. We always talk about the physical aspects. We could talk about the scheme differences and philosophy. But i understand where you're going in terms of the mid toughness that was exhibited by the bucks. I want to start there because a lot of times in our business. We don't like to say somebody punked because no pumps are out there but when you have to tough guys and one of them by his will actually dominates the other. One who has the raiders skew. I will do my job. And say hey. Y'all got punked now. Top of everything. I saw i saw those past stopping once again. And the pads of the tampa. Bay buccaneers is really the key indicator to their success. And that was the first thing i was listening to. I was watching that game. Forget the score. You know they go out to three and out. Forget all that. I'm looking to say who really wanted and again where everyone says they want it. Who's going to show that they wanted. Most i saw what the tampa bay bucks. I'll impressed by the tampa bay bucks. Because the fact is they face diversity square in the face all year long despite naysayers like acho despite naysayers like nick wrong despite out there just telling them all year long week one against the saints. Oh man y'all taking air then you look at them and we move we nine lose it to this team and twelve and then all those moments where they could just tapped out. Say you know what we're talented but we're just that close but we're not close enough. They responded to that adversity. Let's talk about what i saw. Yesterday i saw team have focused on a day to day into a realize into ultimate success versus a team that was focused so much on alternate success forgot about the day to day and that's the tampa bay buccaneers versus the kansas city chiefs chiefs. Oh year wong with playing with fire and we thought it would never burn them. We saw on the postseason. They were still dominate. You kept telling me man. This team was just bored aboard a yesterday. They look board about the third quarter would realize this is an email and we go take you. Let me give you a nugget to by the do not tom. Brady was just pressured on four of his thirty dropbacks. That's the lowest of all ten of his super bowl. Appearances credit impressed by the offense line. Let's also go about at south to you about the middle. Four minutes of the game and i talked to you about the middle of the game. And how impressed. I was by the tampa bay bucks against his chief team yesterday. In the middle of the game do you. If they finished four of their five drives in the middle of the game scoring a touchdown put that game out reach that including that includes score right before the half. I can talk about the thiessen. How disappointed. I am in them. Because i am highly disappointed him. Got me over there. I got me a drink. Or two or three hydrated. I'm eating chips. I'm trying to break diet. I'm doing all of this. Because it's the super bowl and the game was in contention for long so start off by saying how impressed i was by the book. I'm gonna go one step further because funny enough crazy enough. I'm not mad at the chiefs to protect you know like when you get what's so handedly. It is not like the chiefs play. Bad patrick mahomes. Please do not listen to. What's your read on twitter. That man did not play patrick mahomes. The buccaneers came out there after getting embarrassed week twelve. They completely change the game plan. America's wondering like what do you mean. They game playing game plan. I'll show week. Twelve title was one on one covered. Essentially the entire first half todd. Bowles does left a one on one he said. Hey are cornerback. so good. Enough tyreek hill went out there and eight and then when we yesterday we killed did not see one on one coverage the entire game. Safety was over the top every single time south high rico ended up with two catches thirteen yards in the first half. Beat them near. Where else did they beat them remember. The buccaneers were one of the worst penalized teams last year. Even dr initiate have some games penali- but all of a sudden the got eight penalties ted. A bucks one penalty in the first half. You know the game of football. I won't say it's one and lost via penalties but that definitely aides to it so then the bucks play cleaner gains then. You outs game as well. Tom brady sixteen for twenty in the first half three touchdowns eighty completing two percentage only time in super bowl history eighty percent completion percentage plus three touchdowns in the first half. I'm not gonna lie. Sell like i was shocked and i was shocked not because i didn't read the warning signs. I was shocked. Because tom brady came out there and played like he hasn't played all postseason. I was shocked because the cheese came out there. And they didn't necessarily lay and the bucket nears just manhandled them. So i'm giving all credit to the bucket nears more than i'm taking away from the cheese. Oh my god and this binary world we live in if you say one thing people just think that you're not even respecting to other sock bro. I'm so disappointed i started. I'll say hi impressed with the books. Because they had the victory but in defeat that she stuck up the place. This is first of all. I'm washing dishes at the end of the third quarter. Lsu that there's a problem right now because our super bowl party of five. I'm sitting here looking at this game. This as a rap you become background noise to me. That's system it turned into more. Tony romo jokes. I was anticipating there watching the chiefs. Go down there and get nothing for it. Let's talk about why. I'm disappointed in chiefs. What thing is i. I was disappointed that they actually really live through. That mentality of you know what we're so good that when we want to turn it on turn it on. We can hit the switch. We're talking about it all year. Not just thought that they were going to be smarter than net and they walk into a situation just really thought jerseys on the field could are fast office on the field. It's going to beat thirty one points before we blink. Oh it was only nine points on that cheese for adjusting look. We saw pressure on patrick mahomes. We knew that they came into this game with a beat up offense alon but arab enemy. Andy reid can you just. Can you please protect patrick. Mahomes who was pressured on twenty nine of his fifty six dropbacks the most of any quarterback in super bowl history in a great area while. We're witnessing it this was extreme. This was like he has no unaddressed. Hey you gotta tied in outside of travelers. kelsey them in a little bit. Hey you got all these pasters and understand. They're going out there with two deep safeties and they're questioning. Can you methodically go up. And down the field and score a touchdown. They asked a question. The tampa bay bucks defense that the cheese now only couldn't answer never even attempted to answer. That's disappointing. 'cause i know andy reid is guru offense and he never made the proper adjustments to protect office allowed to protect his quebec. I'm not patrick. Mahomes after the game says they took away our deep stuff. Okay and i saw you in the first game houston texans. Even though they lost that game was taken away the deep stuff in the beginning he corrected. I guess the chargers they were trying to take away the stuff. He corrected the raiders. Day lost that game but still there were so correction every wanted to close games. You saw from the kansas city chiefs this year. You saw correction. Did you even see an attempt at a correction. Yesterday i did not see that so now i'm left to surmise. That patrick mahomes is amazing. He's tremendous but he has two losses in his postseason. Both of them to a chessmaster. The same guy and tom brady so what i'm upset about is you're going to a game on talent and talent alone. You gotta win the mental game the mental aspect as well and. That's why i'm disappointed. My thing no cell is like i don't know vict- the chiefs didn't correct. They got beat at their own game. The game is we get out so far ahead of you. Throw you out your games. That's that's what the yoda fourth. Quarter comeback kings. Well david doubts may four last year they can but that's not what they do know hand. Do they even admit this that okay. We usually correct. And we couldn't and i don't know why here's why go. Okay let's the chiefs really no way. I'm disappointed that the chiefs you sit around the ball more anytime you're sitting in a too high safety. Run the ball more offensively. We were able to run the ball. Definitely clyde edwards helaire. He averaged nine care. Sixty four yards. He was doing his thing. You were able to run the ball but the problem is the bucks. Go up seventy three fourteen three fourteen six bucks while twenty one six all of a sudden andy. Reid is looking around. Like how do we run game to stick to the run game. Do we stick to the run game in theory. Yes they should have time. How did the bucks get their lead. The first touchdown penalty no. I'm not blaming the rest. Say i'm not saying thank you put your position. You put yourself in position to get penalties on you. But what i am going to say is. I'm not disappointed in the teeth. For what for forgetting a pi. Call this up in the air for getting another defensive holding call. that's up in the air. Okay when you dive at my kevin's legs are mad at that one. But i'm not disappointed in the chiefs for that. You're not important in an office that averages over thirty points a game. They only comes out with nine. You're not disappointed auto. i love you too. Gotta be like dog. That's not sure and the reason it wasn't you is because you were getting pressured. Because he was not only getting physical pressure but the literal mental pressure. This team is out in front of us. What happened to the comeback kid. What happened last year on his role to success in greatness downtown downtown down. Twenty four at halftime. You down fifteen. That's not insurmountable. what happened. you know what happened. This team never figured out the calculation because this year they played with fire. Too damn low. Let me say this. I can't disappointed if you don't make a great play disappointed. If you're a good place but remember taibbi killed who drops that touchdown pass after mahomes. Miraculously scrambles phenomenal catch even when mahomes laying parallel to the ground. Does it up there. And it goes to williams hands because a defender missed an interception. That would have been a great player. You don't know how hard it is to catch a ball when somebody goes right before your line of sight before you catch all now is heart in this game again. That's hard would. They knew it all year long. Those would have been great place. I'm not mad at you for not making a great play. I'm mad at you for not making a good clay travis. Kelsey drop early in the second quarter. That i can be mad at but the books just manhandled yes so you're not disappointing. The team getting manhandled coach team. Can you say who play bad. Patrick mahomes they that his quarterback rating was fifty two. But you watch the game running for his life. he's been around like this time out to find a receiver. He didn't play yes he did. Play back let me tell you one you have mobility. I know you had to toe issue but you had two weeks when they were pressuring you in buffalo game when we saw you can pressure this year Did you find ways to kind of salvage the situation. Then you find ways to still overcome as the old saying goes be greater than your greatest excuse and right now. I don't see it from this team. You like my ol- elementary report card. We used to get his radars. Nine straight as i can go to harvard. I went to columbia. Here's the thing. It was lying item between achievement and effort in the same class. You would get two great achievement and effort. Obviously yesterday. their achievement is f f dated loose. They got beat down. It was over before it was over disobedience giving a joysticks that was one of those games. Here's the effort gray f as well. Why because i didn't see the effort to reset your team. I did see the effort to try a different way. I did see the effort even turn physicality dog would all else fails co says one hundred percent even if it's the wrong direction. If you do it together you can find your way. This team got beat up. They got punked and then they didn't have any answers. Supposedly with the greatest quarterbacks you living you said be greater than your greatest. Excuse not excuses right. It's one thing down one player. But i'm saying the line so you know what it is. Patrick mahomes left. Acquired fisher right. Tackle schwartz been out. He was wanted play the game. Four his dad. They'll do run for how long they been out though i'll have been. How long have you been up. Maybe a week do a play games. Time saying is that go out there and have pure drops the teesta go out there in an fumbled the ball at their own goal line. She's made great goal. Line staff the only play where. I'm really like joe. The only way play. I'm really like man. I'm disappointed in the travis. Kelsey is dropping a shank pun after that. The only two where i'm like. That's very disappointing. That is out of character. Well out of out of character patrick. Mahomes is not out of character for pets. Stink it up in the super bowl because he pretty much stunk. It up last super bowl for three quarters demand and do i won't demand gimme more than our points. The last homes has lost a game by more to eight points. Do hear a college okay. That's not enough so that wasn't from one of the last time patch holes has ever been in the game where he didn't score a touchdown never in his nfl career. You'll try to tell me these. Anomalies are not disappointing to you. How do you look at these situations. And then you say oh. I'm not disappointed because that's no because all the plays patrick mahomes could have scored on would have been great tyree kale five ten going up. In the air with the defender on rate he hits robinson number. Eleven stressed out would have been great. I'm not disappointed in not making a great say. Okay butts force them to have to make great plays. They didn't make great place credit but also to do for me. Why did you predict that they will win this game. And then you predict the not only do they win the game score over thirty but it may not even be close but then you knew the variables coming into the game. You knew that who had the most turnovers in terms of takeaways defense. Tampa bay bucks. Who had the most pressures in. Nfl this year tampa bay bucks. You knew that. The chiefs had a compromise office to still had an expectation. Thirty plus points and then when they give you only guy. You're not disappointed because that makes and it makes sense because this we've never seen anyone do what todd bowles did to those chiefs win. We've never seen anybody doing to me. No second game never seen anybody hold the chiefs to that kind of minimal offensive output. So when i'm looking at all like todd bowles phenomenal. Start for me. That's where start. Stop swimming todd. Bowles you digital thing because if it was that easy everybody else would be easy. Don't move the conversation. This is a relative existence. We all live if you are deemed. Good guess what. Sometimes somebody is going to be deemed bad right you flip a coin. His heads and tails all. I'm saying this tremendous boys todd bowles. Let's flip the coin. You're trying to tell me that's not bad. That's not bad bucks. I mean that's how bad kansas city chiefs and bad patrick mahomes. It looks that way. You know why because the the book near didn't even do everything. The buccaneers want to do in terms of overall score. They did but it turns of the pressure in terms of them. Getting the sack numbers. They have done worse. Aaron rodgers was sitting there like opec homes. That's all that's all you can do. 'cause i saw that deep they have five era and he made it more contentious game. Patrick mahomes brooke. We got a lot of conversation going forward about patch mahomes and as you said not disappointed in the super bowl because we've seen this before coming up at the top of the hour we'll be joined by super bowl. 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Did prove a lot but to you. What tom brady prove last night. Oh man a lot like you said But if i had to focus in on one thing something that now only was inspirational. I would share my children as my son. Surprisingly at the young age of five was really into this game. He flipped his pick. I don't know what happened. Must washed our show one day. You must have strong point because all we he was. Tom brady the bucks. Didn't he flipped to. Patrick mahomes the cheese. I don't know if it was the bank of mahomes or your points but the point is myself but now michelle my son. Something i learned from. Tom brady even watching the game yesterday. You gotta start at square one. Br you gotta start at square one in life in terms of process. Let me tell you what. I learned by watching tom brady yesterday. That the chiefs got to focus. Don't achievement after the equal sign. How's it all going to add up. We're going to be a dynasty. We going back to back running back as they kept wearing those tee shirts and talking about it all all year. Okay and tom brady. All of his greatness which is even greater than the chiefs fact is greater than any other. Nfl franchise in history right now. With seven rink. He showed me the he embodies what the process is which is starting at square one. Let's talk about everything. Tom brady had to deal with and then watching him once again. Be a super bowl. Mvp for the fifth time. Extend that lead. He has in that category as well. Tom brady has to leave a destination. He's been for twenty years. Assist them twenty years identity. This now being renewed and really has to be restored somewhere else goes to a coach. Who's never won a super bowl. He goes to a situation where his office coordinator. My boy byron left which watch opted up with this morning actually was drafted after. Tom brady retire before tom brady. But now is office coordinator in authority. How crazy is that then. He goes to the situation. It looks around this. tom brady. Who has the most wins of any quarterback. Nfl history looking around at a franchise with the most losses in sports history. And he's just looks at all. This diversity adds it all up and says is that all is that it. Let's go and he got to work. Where i saw the chiefs not getting back to work in the same respect. They skipped square one. Tom brady went to square one because he knew it was a new situation. Plus he knew what is the ingredient for my success. The most important ingredient his main ingredient is his focus man. He focused on the details. Where the chiefs just focused in on a summation of what those details look like. So what i learned from. Tom brady is simple. No matter how great you are anything never think that a master of the first step unless you bring yourself back to that place. That's what i learn. And i'm sure i respect that say. Tom brady proved to me. He's the greatest winner of all time. I'm not gonna say he's the best of all time. I'm not gonna say he's most talented of all time. I'm not gonna get into the debates about anything else. But he is by far the best winner of all time. We can talk about all other folks across all other centuries or decades but it's harder to win now in pro sports in it has ever been period because of the talent because of the talent and because of the parody. It is hard to win now than it has ever been. Also because of the quality across realms of the country like the most talented players in the other parts of the world or also maximizing their talent. So we're seeing that on a bigger state than we've ever seen as well so tom brady playing in an era where it's hardest to win is now winning at a clip that we haven't seen especially in the sport of football like cell. He won winglets and we were all wondering. Hey is it brighter isabella check. Then he moves to tampa. I had my doubts. No no. I had my didn't but i did. I was going to come out here and win a super boy. No way that'll happen. Only does it show up in tampa but year one. No off season wins a super bowl. The winning it goes where tom brady. Goat new england. Tom brady leaves their. They don't win tampa. they don't win. Tom brady shows up. they win. Wherever whatever the equation. Is tom brady. Equal super bowl. I don't care what the gets that phrase whatever. The equation is plus. Tom brady equal super bowl. And i think that's what he proved like. It doesn't matter the circumstances it doesn't necessarily matter the obstacles if you told me the equation then you're going to equal a championship or some caliber of excellence. That you haven't previously experience well. Yeah i think we're saying the same thing maybe room across from each other. Because tom brady doesn't get bored with success. Everybody i know gets bored with success. And i never had this amount of success to get more but i do understand what the difference is between tom brady. And when he's running. Team and patrick mahomes are what the chiefs went through this year in terms of their mindset. Nick sabin and bill belichick both echoed the same thing about championships. They all go to the team the next year and say be careful in thinking that you're repeating as champions. Be careful in thinking that you're in a quest to repeat as champions because you're not everything has changed trust me. This road will be completely different than the road of last year and clinton a lot of the players from last year won't even be a part of this year. Think about that versus the chiefs. As soon as they won last year it went off in my head. Like strike one. 'cause they kept talking about the future they kept about dynasty. michael jordan. Back to back back and tom brady all of his success and he's the last guy to run it back to back. Never forecast running it back to bet. Tom brady has gays that my coach used to talk about if you wanna run your fastest time even where your eyes are that matters. Where are you is when you run the fastest a lot of people. You just walk up to mona street and say well you gotta look straight ahead. You look straight ahead while you're running right now. You barely your fingertips mode. If you look down as my coach told me say always keep that gays right in front of you look down offset you see more view and you see. You're trying to go. Tom brady is exactly that he sees what he needs to do. He sees what his teammates the doing the process and he sees were trying to go. But if you're patrick mahomes or your chiefs and you're looking straight ahead another ring another championship missing. What you're doing on the day to day plan with that fire. What i saw from patrick. Mahomes was not the greatest effort in defeat. And i'm saying that in part because of the achievement. It was so dismal. That i'm like yo you got more than that patch mahomes somehow some way. Maybe didn't maybe the bucks. Were beating it out of them. But i've seen tom brady in defeat for five hundred yards in the super bowl like the super bowl. Were recovering the off season. I just didn't see people going for broke on. The chiefs assaulted them. Broken on the cheap side to the point. Where only travis kelsey kind of reminded me of travis kelsey was. Everyone else was just sitting out there. In shock and awe of tom brady who lit the process. Take him to this place. As said of his eyes are really focused. Just on the super bowl. Think the other big note i saw yesterday from brady prove it. Transcends football you can be excellent at your craft if you take seriously now. We praise tom brady because he's a football player and it owns one day of the week so we all know how excellent he is. But i think tom brady. Each showed a lesson to everybody at home watching the game or you want to go craft enough and excellence will find you was you will find it. I mean things like. He's more passionate about the game than he's ever been arguing match time. Matthew tie little bit crazy you came back nokia crazy. Tom brady not backing down at the age of forty three show. Whatever they shelton about right. He's like not about that action to might not grew up where you grew up how you grew up when you grew up with who you grew up running about that action to. I'm just passionate about this game. Is i ever have been so. He showed me a lot last night. Tom brady did. But i think the most important thing he showed few tako craft seriously excellence will find you like it. Found him coming up on super bowl. Champion rob gronkowski. He joined the show. Ask him how in the world of the butts off that huge win over the tv staff right here on speak speak for yourself listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast with marc titus. People sports podcast. It comes out every thursday. And mark. And i take one of the big stories of the week and then go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and end up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with the bronze greatness and end up. Drafting our ultimate beer league softball team made of athletes whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because these days we could all use as many lives as we can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to have you now back to speak for yourself. History of the series or collection of events. One name does not do it. Justice is a group of names. Dr martin luther king frederick douglass roles apart. Harriet tubman some so many more malcolm x. mohammed ali john lewis those that put their lives on the line. Some pay the ultimate price by losing their lives. Some put their lives on the line. The freedom writers that whip stated the city trying to get people out to vote so we could have rights in america that was afforded to us by the constitution. So when i think of history those are some of the names that i think. Welcome back catch. Mahomes had a shot to be the youngest quarterback ever to win multiple super bowl rings. But it did not happen. The bucks defense was all over mahomes. Last night forcing two interceptions and three sacks home suffered the worst defeat of his nfl career and it was the first time. His team was held without a touchdown since he was in high school. Take a listen to mahomes after the loss. Obviously i didn't play the way i wanted to play but i mean what else can you say. All you can do is leave everything you have on the field. I thought the guys did that. They were the better team today. they beat us Pretty pretty good The worst. I think i've been beaten in a long time but i'm probably guys now. They thought so the very end of the game. So it was the chiefs loss on. Patrick mahomes no not at all man. I wanted to say so as the defensive player. Send me to go and blame the quarterback. But no i mean before i would ever blame patrick. Mahomes i blame the chiefs offense blind. I blame andy reid for not making the adjustments running the ball against the buccaneers to safety. Look i blame the defense and other penalties. I'd go ahead and after the penalties that the defense actually merited getting called them. I would blame the rest for the calls. Defense shouldn't have actually got called on them. I blame punter for shanking. Get and then getting the the second touchdown and then blamed. Patrick mahomes bro. There's a litany of people that i would blame before patrick mahomes again like you wanted to go out there and blame patrick mahomes then re watch some of the game this morning and i was like wait a second patrick mahomes while diving parallel to the ground the ball thirty yards in the air and hit his receiver in the helmet by not even a hands in the hell. I'm going to force you to cast this ball because if you don't. Tom is going to hit you right. The so patrick. Mahomes squad doing Payroll west and running for his. They're right there thirty yard sale parallel to the ground. Fun four like high. Like mosquito at picnic so i can't blame for not being able to for playing poorly planned. His guts out dom consumer tastes shack bear. Kp all tasing him at one time still putting his team in position to win the game. Three times receivers caught the ball with either a chance to score within the two or in the end zone they didn't hold onto. It would have been fantastic. Catches would have been miraculous caches but would have been catches nonetheless so no i don't i don't put this loss on mahomes reason in the podium. He said you know we played our guts out. And i don't think he was really talking about everybody else and honestly i think he was talking about him if you remember after that a rough and a passer car thing about and consume got him getting bent over backwards. He gets a helmet by a four on by debbie white to his in. I think he was saying look. I played my guts out. I'm not gonna guys under the bus. But i can't blame patch home for what i saw last all. I'm to blame his but here comes duck. Patrick mahomes duck. Because that's just gave me a list. You just do me. A bag opinions hunted. Here's the dollar has a home office. You'll blame him getting hurt. Andy reid grew knows everything about football. Now why didn't you read about. And when they have the highest percentage of throwing the football now you want them to run. The football is crazy. I have to put this on. Patrick mahomes partly because i studied my craft. I studied my job. And i remember this ironic moment that occur last night. That reminded me of the moment before when tom brady was perfect in a regular season and got to the super bowl and loss and then i see a guy in patrick mahomes only really lost one game this year and then he gets to the super bowl loss and i started to put that together and see that common denominator. And i'm gonna make it a common denominator. Because i remember brady gidon destroyed by america's and how did you lose that game and he kind of lost the game say way there. Patrick mahomes lost the game boy front. Oh and then everybody's like well why didn't build took a really now. it's own building. Y'all kill typewriting writing this totta kilpatrick vic talk last time we saw pets. Go out there and give them nine points. And that's it. Never you know why. Because that was the worst in terms of point score for pets homes and his career point differential net negative twenty two worse than his career. What about team touchdowns none dale. I wonder if he's done that before. Any game no worse than his career. What about a pacifist. Two point three come on man. He's had a bad game like that before no worse than his career. This you want to count last year super bowl which i'll talk about later so we don't kill tom brady. The goat for moments like this are not exempt. Because you're cute cuddly and likable. Everybody loves so much. he's adorable. My daughter shut up all the time. Yeah i said kenny play. I don't wanna hear how nice is up cutie. It's about performance in this league brother. We smoke baker mayfield. Soon he does something bigger. Mayfield sneeze we would like. He covers his mouth elbow. Like carson wentz. We come at at these boys. So sorry pets mahomes. You're going to take some of this heat as well. Once is a chance twice coincidence. Third time's a patter. And this is the second time. I saw him in super bowl a little less than and as you know two things you can't be in the greatest moments especially when you're the greatest player. Somebody else are worse than who you are gonna bring him fox in the phil analyst bucky brooks so lucky is the chiefs las. On patrick mahomes no-no padua hose patrick mahomes. I don't know what happened because passable whole show up to the gunfight with a butter knife his coaches let him down a real. I love aired the enemy and andy. Reid they deserve credit for really building. A juggernaut a leap. They got our coast. And i think it shows when you walk into a game you have backup offensive tackles you cannot put those guys in five men pass protection on ninety two percent douse particularly when you're blending jason pierre paul check barrett and adama can sue. They were overmatched overwhelm and they knock. Patrick mahomes around in the pocket. He was never comfortable. He was throwing from different angles. We saw him flying across the trying to throw the ball across the field and they couldn't do with secondly if the tampa bay buccaneers are gonna come in. They can play a to deep coverage where they're parking these safeties in the parking lot. You have to run. The football out to the saints are so deep that you can't even see them on the screen you have to run the football. Joe pointed out that it was sixty four yards on nine carries. Run the football. I've felt like this was a game. Where andy reid. The enemy they panic they were only down to scores at halftime. And yet they're throwing the ball all over the yard and it's a game where you cannot block the guys up front. They didn't have an adjustment. And i understand the arrogance that we all come into the arena with. We do what we do. We don't do what we do. Is that we. We want. Twenty five twenty six or twenty six hundred twenty seven but at some point. You have to hold yourself. You have to make changes. They did not make changes. That's on coaching. Staff of putting on patch walls. Yeah i agree with that. I agree with it. Because the where andy reid and we're patrick. Mahomes lost is when andy. Reid did not try to commit to the run. That's where patrick mahomes voss. They took it away. They literally they did. What when the rams into the seahawks if we remember that first playoff game the seahawks and decay metcalf came on this show and said hey. They're taking away the deep passing game. What happened just like the seahawks kept trying to go to and it didn't work. The teas kept trying to go to it. And it did not work coaches. Sometimes players teams get nailed way. Nobody can stop us when we do what we do. Just like bucky said but the buccaneers were committed to stopping tie. We kill committed to stopping the deep pass and the chiefs. They did not have the same level of commitment. Okay you're all going to go left. We're gonna move right. Y'all gonna go right. We're going to move left. Chiefs had no counter. They kept trying to go back to it. It didn't work. That's not on patrick mahomes march. Oh that's patrick halls. Oh man. I love me some bucky boots but boy. There's a thing between love and hate. Cause i hate what you're talking about right now you'll get up here. Your first line was the coach. Get out coats okay. They got coast but the player get yes he did. I hear that line supporting that. The coach has got out coast interesting. Oh tell me if this is office. Allies fall with patrick mahomes on throws of twenty plus yards was owed for six. That means. duffy's did well enough for him to throw the ball. He can complete white house not one for six. So that is zero zero yards and throwing a ball down the field from patrick mahomes. Aw could talk about the drops o- office and we go talk about the coach and we go dress. But we're not gonna talk about mr gunslinger themself. And why am i bringing up the fact that he's a gunslinger. Because i don't know if you guys understand this chief's office they call a ton of rpo's run pass options and all during the regular season everyone article after article reporter after reporter was given them praise because patrick mahomes even when he saw us suggested from the defense that issue run ball with roll the ball and throwing the ball to his weapons and will always succeed in those moments. So we're gonna praising him for doing the wrong things because of the result and asked would cart him in the super bowl. He finally win defense. That could fly around. Had the team speed necessary and a tremendous coordinator said oh. We're going to dare you to do the right thing. And we trust that you will do the wrong thing once again so let me give you guys something else now. Now now now. Now you know what buddy. I love you too much to just keep piling on. Please retort and give me some ammo. I don't know. Because i like fighting you in your wheelhouse and says you are a national record holder and one hundred meter and i think you can relate to you what i'm going to talk about so patrick mahomes last night. In this game. Patrick mahomes ran for four hundred and ninety seven yards before he either threw the ball or before he got sick. So more selves. Because you're national champions think about running lap around the track before you have to throw the ball and just wonder how would impact your decision making because you're recordholder. I'm sure you've been spending so much energy that you might be a little tired in may impact what you do with the ball. So imagine doing that. With jason pierre paul shaq barrett and knocking your neck loose. Y you trying to throw the ball and then when you think about what you're able to do in week twelve week. Twelve against the tampa. Bay buccaneers throwing the ball outside the numbers. Patrick mahomes was eighteen for twenty two birth. Three hundred eight yards. So you know what. Todd bowles it. Now we're playing a cover two in this game. We're taking away deep ball. We're taking away outside. We're going to see if you can throw it over the middle ten for twenty to fifty yours to interceptions in big games. You need your coaches to set a script for you to get out of jams. They couldn't provide patrick mahomes answers. That's why they're sitting with an ill and super bowl. Fifty five star. Patrick mahomes was thinking up in the super bowl last year. For the first three quarters and guess what they helped him out and they called the game plan in the fourth quarter or a complement of patrick mahomes figured it out and against the number two defense last year when all the tear and they won that game but this year something different are full of. Excuse mommy my daughter hockey. Look i like vegetables. I think he's tremendous. He's great but he got a little ahead of himself. Because of all the powder puff conversation around him off. Angle trolls looking at this. Look at him doing the rpo's but doing it his way. Not what the defense is dictating. Okay you're going against mr fundamental and tom brady. Those will catch up to you. Let me tell you who. Patrick mahomes really is right now and this is tough to say. But because what i'm gonna say is interesting. He's on the same track as russell. Wilson and this is an interesting point russell wilson. First year he went to the play. Offs then exited the playoffs. Like patrick mahomes did losing to tom. Brady in those first year in that first year. the playoffs. What russell wilson do his second year as a starter won a super bowl now the standard variables of different defense leaded. I don't get caught up in all the minutia but the second year. Guess we're russell wilson. Did he won the super bowl. Petro's air yeah and then third year kessler whistle racer. Did he made it to the super bowl again and lost mr fundamental and tom brady. The house just went to the super bowl lost. Get that same goat. And tom brady. All i'm gonna tell you guys is he's somewhere between tom. Brady and russell wilson which is very interesting because that conversation got peyton manning tortured. I'ma give you this last before we out of here. The highest i've talked about indifference in quarterback rating. Was this super bowl. Y'all just witness. The greatest disparity between two quarterbacks was this super bowl we just saw in the last twenty years. Patrick mahomes would've faded to rayton and tom brady would've won. Twenty five rating the second. Highest was russell wilson against peyton manning. They jato paid man. He can play football anymore and told him to retire. That was second to this one. What's going tell. Pets halls won't for not retire. But certainly get better coming up rob gronkowski one is four super bowl title last night and his next move is joining us. That's right pussy. See if this title feels any different than his patriot days. Free for yourself back over feelings back. Speak for yourself. Tom brady is the super bowl champion. Once again brady threw three touchdown passes on his way to win in his center. Frank and being named tampa's defense held it down as well. The bucks picked up from home twice. Sackler three times and kept casey out of the end zone is back with us. But i'll show who deserves more credit. Tom brady order books foods. You're absolutely two bucks defense. They need all the credit in the world. Patrick mahomes has started fifty three games and only once that we've seen him have no touchdowns and two interceptions that was his fifth career. Start patrick mahomes was held without a touchdown was the last time we saw patrick. Mahomes without a touchdown you gotta go back to about middle school because she always scored and high school he put up at minimum twenty nine points in every game so we gotta go back to recess at middle school to see patrick mahomes. Not though what touchdown during the course of the game to see. Patrick mahomes not involved in an offense that had a touchdown in the course of a game and you did that in the super bowl with a writer slight with everything on the line. The bucks defense deserves all the credit. Patrick mahomes hadn't been dealt a loss like this in ever in a minute and tom brady he ball give tom brady all the credit that he deserves. Give tom brady the credit that is due but this bucks defense did something that was unheralded unprecedented and never been seen before kudos to them. Kudos to the defense because defense was really the driving force for this team to win in the postseason. When you look at the way they played to knock off three. I will say. The murderers row of quarterbacks drew brees aaron rodgers. Patrick mahomes the man you gotta tip of the cap to top nothing in this game against pat malls. I think what you did. Is you heard all the things that we've always heard coming up playing defense a takeaway. The deep ball. Don't allow the ball to get outside. Make sure you said edge. Make sure we tackle will do the little things they did all those things. They did a spectacularly. And when you look at the game plan where they only rushed four drop seven kept the ball in front and they played a game of who was going to be more disciplined. Our defense or patch mahomes. They want the defense deserves all the credit. And oh by the way they brought the physicality they were not afraid. It changed the game. And i think man they put some stuff on tape that other teeth emulate and copy when they go forward man. I gotta disagree with. Cia may strong arguments. And i'm not arguing against the bucks defense and the credit they deserve but this is not a mutually exclusive conversation so the bus defense was tremendous and patrick mahomes problem once again in the super bowl. I remind you as the bucks defense exposed once again. Patrick mahomes in the super bowl quarterback in his three years starting at thirteen average quarterback written one. Oh five average quarterback rating and one eight average quarterback rating in two super bowls has had seventy eight and fifty two. So if we're gonna get a bus defense credit. I love that forty niners defense credit last year. No common denominator there. We'll found one. Patrick mahomes okay. So let's talk about this situation because it's not mutually exclusive. Tom brady give this boy from credit. Man you know what made the chiefs. One dimensional now. Andy reid forgetting how to coach office a football score and who put up those points. Not the bucks defense love. You kept stopping them from scoring. But how did you put up those points. Oh tom brady. And the guys. Four of five drives in the middle. Porno game ended in touch downs. What that means presa and the pressure on you patrick mahomes and that office because the tables had term what they used to say about people bullies etc when they try to pump because the chase office bully they go out there whenever they want to turn it on and usually isn't in the beginning they can wait to the fourth quarter. They go out there and punk you. But it's a funny expression that always says what happens when the rabbit has begun gun. Writers like he getting the rapid had the gun yesterday and how to play football. They forgot how to play off. Fisa football and that all comes back to tom brady and their offense. So i think this was actually easy to quantify. Because if you want to say who play better. It's very easy to deduce. How rare is what occurred occurring. Like how rare is that. What occurred actually happen roaming. Sell patrick mahomes zero touchdowns twitter sections. We've seen that once in the last fifty three games for patrick mahomes fifty three starts. Tom brady three touchdowns no picks so we've seen that seven times in his last three games. We saw that four times from tom. Brady this season. Twenty eight of the last super bowl quarterbacks if thrown for more than two hundred one yards so. That wasn't that rare. Tom brady having the performance he had yesterday. Not that rare. Particularly not for tom brady but for the bucks defense to hold. Patrick mahomes to something. We've only seen once in. His career hasn't happened since his fifth start. Patrick mahomes scoring less than ten point since college. That is extremely rare for that. I got to give credit to. The bucks are look man. Brady ahead is highest passer rating. And he's super bowl. That's one eighty five nineteen super bowls. We're talking about any. He the second highest completion percentage any super bowl. So let's stick with the super bowl. Someone who knows. Tom brady very well. I let's go to our next guest. Who could be the happiest person in the world right now. Rob gronkowski is second. All-time is super bowl. Touchdown catches at the ad in to from tom brady last night. His books won a title in his first season in tampa and he is now four time superbowl champion. He joins us now. Live from disney world in orlando rock. Welcome to speak for yourself and please describe what the last fifteen hours has been like for. You poor oh man. The last fifteen hours have been draining for sure. Celebrating sometimes is more work than actually playing the game. been crazy. It's been a crazy journey to celebrate on the field with my friends family. My teammates their friends. Just everyone going to the after party and then go to sleep for four hours waking up taking a car ride here to walt disneyworld writing all the rise man. I'm right. I'm running on fumes right now. I'm just pushing through. Because that's what i do. I know how to push through. I can catch up on sleep. Blade grow came out of retirement for this. So take me to the moment that you realized it was all worth it man. You know just having a good season. I knew it was all worth it you know just to have a good season encompass You know wins in some playoff wins. I was worth. And then i knew was super super worth it when we were going to the super bowl and then i knew it was super worth two squared power times ten when we want it all baby love event. Now you say this more work to celebrate sometimes in actually playing well when you went thirty one to nine. I understand that but Win yesterday. did you know during the game that this game was over. I'll probably say the fourth quarter Because their offense they got a high powered offense you know they can come back anytime so like having that third quarter beating up a couple of scores just wasn't enough. We just had to keep putting on our defense did a tremendous job. I just wanna give it off. Give give it up. You know for defense a line like what did you meant his game. They play vida vida just coming back from an injury and just having the dominant performance that he had in. The playoffs is just incredible. That is a scare. You don't wanna get in his way. I got into this way. You know i. I took care of them in the locker room a few times. You know like you'll vida your three hundred and fifty pounds your fast. You know he. Out of my way now. Because i showed him what's up actually run from him. The guy's a beast you don't want to be in that guy's way and then our defense align just hats off to them because they did an incredible job gronk a year ago. You were out of football. What would you have said if someone were to tell you. Hey a year from now. Rob gronkowski would be again a super bowl champion. Yeah yeah. I don't know man. That's incredible i'd be like yeah. You know maybe maybe like that. That's a possibility you know that i liked that thinking. That's some good thinking you know. Maybe it will come true. You know i'd be like i doubt it. I doubt i'll even come back. But but i like your thinking i like where your head's at. That's what i was saying. Oh man speaking of retirement once you retire. It's a little easier to retire again. Was there any part this season because from the outside looking in the guy's got off to a slower start than expected. How about when you guys were seventy five or you lost this even same chiefs team. Were there any moment where you're like retire. And maybe wanna go back to retirement. No not at all. I just knew that you know that's part of the nfl. You know it's it's a grind. It's a weekend week out. It's a twenty eight week grinds and that's what it was and at that time You know we just lost and we're going on a bi week. And i just knew the team just needed some rest. I just knew we had a lot of great talented team but we need to come together as a team and just having that we often coming back and winning eight games in a row was just incredible and i knew the team had in them Coach always believed in us. He always said it to. He goes when we get working together. We're going to be unstoppable. We're going to be unbeatable and it's the truth you know. the truth. coach was right He he always said that to us and Any point. I always know it's going to be a grind but there was never a doubt in my mind that i didn't make the right decision man Just even when we weren't doing so well we were still in good moods we're still picking each other up. We were no one was blaming anything on anyone. We just knew we had a figure it out. And that's what we did and that's what it's all about and Just going through a whole nfl season. Things aren't always going for your way. Man there's so much talent in the nfl and every team anyone can win on any given sunday. That's what makes football so great but it's just a team that figures out the best of india and and that's what we did. We came together at one played for each other. And that's what we did not super bowl fifty five champs baby. That's what it's all about gronk. You played for coach area and super back also coach bela check. Everyone knows he's a lot more uptight. Both of which you've now one super bowls under. What experience do you enjoy more. Oh man i feel like. They're both super laid back. If you ask me i enjoy i enjoy. I enjoy both experiences. Man you know to win three super bowls in new england there's a huge place in my heart For those super bowl wins. You can't take nothing away from those winds That was an incredible journey. And this one is just you know another incredible journey this. This one just has another place in my heart. How much it means to me and How much work was put in. And just the story behind it and everything man. They're just both just you know. All of them are just unbelievable. Winning a championship is just unbelievable. You can't take away anything when you win a super bowl like not at all no matter what. The situation is not to pick between people but the pop up one person in particular this morning. I chopped it up with my former teammate. And your office coordinator byron left. Which was a great teammate. But how was he as a coach. You know barring that which was the man and He's not was the man he is the man and let me tell you. I've known byron for a while. Because i was a i was a you know a mac fan because i grew up in buffalo. The university of buffalo was was five minutes down the road from me. So i knew all about bahrain because he played at marshall and they were in the mac and i was a mac fan So i knew about his career. I knew who he was. So like when i first got there i was like barring less wish man. I know all about him. I've known him since. I was a kid. Like this is incredible. And let me tell you. He's an unbelievable coach and top of it. he's a great guy and i just love his coaching style. Love his energy It's just super positive. And he's always just trying to be a big You know he's never too high he's never too low and he's you know cracking jokes when it's the right time but he's also giving props The guy is just amazing dude. And he's there for the players. And i love a man. He just such a great job handling this team. I mean look at all the guys on this. You know on this offense you know. It's a tough tough task to do To keep everyone in line and byron you know he compete better guy to be in that situation man much props to him gronk real quick four time superbowl champion shirley a first ballot hall of famer. How much longer you wanna play for. You know i'll take it year by year. That's what i'm doing. I don't see why won't be back with the bucks next year but Just to you know to to predict future. How long i think i'm gonna play for. I don't know. I'm a year by year guy This year went great I can see myself back for sure next year but I'm one year at a time. And i feel like that's the best way to do it. You control your destiny just by taking it one year at a time all right. Thanks for joining us. Rob continued success and greatness for tom super bowl champion. Enjoy space mountain out there for all right guys. Thank you guys take care. Go buck super bowl champs man unbelievable coming up. Tom brady is now to the playoffs against pets. Mahomes we'll tell you just how impressed we were with the bucks super bowl win. That's next yes goes back to speak for yourself prevented by the us army. What's your wars fan. Patrick mahomes the worst defeat in his pro career on their way to their second title in franchise history tampa's defense picked off moms twice and added three sacks while tom brady won is seven titles in his first year in tampa and was named super bowl. Pete brady threw three touchdown passes all in the first half with two going to rob gronkowski one ten tonio brown. Well we gotta bring in a super bowl champion. The add some expertise. Let me and marcella. So g on as greg jennings. Are you more impressed by the bucks or disappointed in the cheese. I was clearly more impressed with the tampa. Bay buccaneers everything that they did was very impressive because it eliminated the kansas city. Chiefs wanted to do going into that football game When we talked a few days ago leading into this game you asked who was the most important part or to the kansas city chiefs. I said tyreek hill the tampa bay buccaneers and todd. Bowles end credit to that. Mvp defense upper performance base shut tyreek hill down which then directly impacted travis kelsey and directly impacted patrick mahomes and what he was able to do or should i say what he was not able to do and it allowed their defensive front the pressure that they were able to get the ability of patrick mahomes to extend plays all the things that he does so very. Well it played right into the hands of this tampa. Bay buccaneers defense. They were able to get after him and then offensively. The bucks just looked really good very efficient. Tom brady was able to turn around and hand the ball up. Marcellus to your guy play morning in so many others and then they were able to get gronkowski. Someone who we all. It's completely forgot about but because of his ability to block his ability to just stay within what they wanted to do all year long. He was kind of flying under the radar. Base schematic just picked apart this kansas city chiefs offense as well as there'd be. Yeah what you g to me is the bucks. And it's the bucks. Because they stuck to their game plan they said look last time we let the chiefs go out ahead of us. Try to get no shoot out. We try to get into a speed race with the team. That's faster than us. This time we're just gonna keep ground impounded. Thirty three russ attempts throughout the course of the game so even when the bucks had success passable. They didn't get distracted by their own success. They went back to the will. Run the ball feed ronald jones. Feed for net feed ronald jones feed for nets. I knew bucks. We're gonna win the game when the teeth can stop the run because if you stop to run then he can't stop the pass now. You k stop anything. I'm impressed with that. I'm also impressed with the super bowl. More than you can ever experienced. Greg better to me. I only played in one playoff game. And even in that playoff game there was some density. Now the super bowl you go out there and you only have one penalty buccaneers when the cheese the team. That was their last year. The chiefs the team with thirty one players on that roster who have won a super bowl out of fifty three minds you. They commit eight penalties in the first half. The chiefs have one hundred twenty penalty yards and buccaneer sitting there with only forty. You got about a touchdown. As far as i traveled in penalties alone. The buccaneers were way. More impressive not just between the white lines but they were more impressive with their mental focus and fortitude as well. She's you can be disappointed in them if you will. But it's more so the pain and the pressure that the bucks inflicted on teeth. That's worthy of praise. Oh man. I think it's both but always want to start with the positive and i'm impressed by the bucks but as great as the books played especially that defense is as bad as the chiefs played. Especially patrick mahomes this just as simple because you could play great all you want but if you have competition then we just got to fight this out and everybody. Hey may even be overtime. Get your popcorn ready. But this wasn't a get your popcorn ready game. You know why because that great bucks defense saw a lesser version. Once again in a super bowl of who. Patrick mahomes in this office is and this wasn't a surprise. That's why i picked the bucks. Why wasn't a surprise one. The cheese got bored with success. Yes i said it. They got bored with success. That's when you start plant with fire you don't return to square one you start saying you're dynastic and you're gonna win more rings jordan but you only have one. Tom brady was into lab. And tom brady. And this bucks team learn from their field general. Who has the most super bowl rings. Nfl history that we have to focus in on every single step during this journey and desa boring mindset. I get it. It sounds like bill belichick. It sounds like nick sabin yawn at it but that is the main ingredient to their success. Then when you watch the game and you realize quickly. Oh i've seen this before. Tyreek hill will slow down after the third quarter of their first game. Todd bowles has started. Took self-correct inept first game. Y'all remember the first game. Yeah i do. at halftime. he was twenty two seven. Then you look up. It's twenty to ten then. It's twenty seven to ten and you think of our foot off the gas. They blink and his twenty seven twenty four net gang and even tyrod matthew after the game the first time they faced him said. This doesn't feel good. You know what didn't feel good getting exposed getting figured out and then all they were doing was going perfect from that moment on the tampa. Bay buccaneers did not lose a game made the proper adjustments and we're licking their chops for the moment to see those guys again who were going to walk in with that arrogance that we beat them before we just let our foot off the gas. Okay what was the gas pedal. Yesterday they couldn't find patrick mahomes. No touchdown scored first time in his career. Patrick mahomes once again in the super bowl was a lesser version because of what he saw on the other side but more importantly what they skipped all throughout this year. Here for me. i. I'm not gonna just say it. It's on patrick. Mahomes and he was a lesser version. Because the reason why he was a lesser version is because of the gain plan of that bucks defense. Patrick mahomes in my eyes is still patrick. Mahomes he made some tremendous plays with his legs and with his arms that weren't rewarded because of the extended extension of the play. Meaning another player getting doing their part or completing the play if you will but this bucks defense. Believe it or not. I think they went into this game knowing. Okay we're going to stop the run like you said acho gonna stop the run and we want patrick mahomes to try to beat us like he's beaten everyone else. Why because we know the way. Patrick mahomes beach. Teams is extending the plate. Any defensive lineman loves quarterbacks that extends the play marcellus is. Why do you love that. Because it gives you a chance to still get him to the ground. A quarterback that gets rid of it in rhythm. Their defensive lineman is worth nightmare. There's no chance to get after him. But when you have a game plan that was executed flawlessly by the tampa. Bay buccaneers. Where you're going to completely take away tyreek hill. You're going to double him right out the gate. You're not gonna let him impact the game anyway whatsoever. That puts a lot of pressure on your quarterback to say either. I'm going to or something to him. Or i'm going to have to get others involved. And when you have a dynamic player tyreek hill andy retry his best to move him around and to keep them involved into get him in the game because that is their engine and it didn't work because of the bucks in the secondary with their linebacker play and definitely and if we can go here the bucks gotta get their credit but they also marcellus. If you go off to the first game the chiefs were trying to figure out what to correct notice based on defense that she's trying to figure out what exactly moves. Do we need a correct. Where's the bucks already. Knew what they had to correct. The bucks were playing from a position of high ground. They're playing from a position of power because they're like wait a second. We saw how you defeated us the first time now. We're going to make our move. You're going to try to have to counter move at halftime but we had two weeks of preparation for this countermove. Advantage buccaneers that. I think it would be this severe in. Advantage buccaneers absolutely not. I think that the chiefs would abandon the running game so early. You add five. Attempted runs by running backs for the chiefs in the first half five. Attempted to run by running back for the chiefs in the third quarter so by the time the third quarter came around. They're like okay. Let's try to get back to the running game even though we're down twenty one nine. Let's try to get back to the running game. Still wasn't enough still didn't work so again. If you disappointed in anything with the tease it can come down to coaching. It can come down. Andy reid enemy. But that's all about the bucks taking those two weeks of preparation figuring out a game to take tyreek hill out the game then winning the test match of the mind because you saw andy. Reid started using tyree killers. Decoy he was like you know what. I'm not even try to go to him. Let me pump to him. And throw a tight end screen and travis kelce you running back. The buccaneers had the chiefs. Anyway to chiefs wanted to go and ran the chiefs completely out the game plan on real. You guys are some apologised. Y'all really trying to give a nice mattress to patch behold the lie on and losing in defeat. Excuse grid or not you show necessarily. We saw this coming and it's funny. I like to keep it one hundred as they say now. Know what that really means. Because i don't do anything perfectly. But i like to just keep my criticism level and i like to keep my praise level because criticism is the cost of praise. I love patrick mahomes. But hey it's time to get a little time out it's time for a time carson. Wentz gets a lot of a lot of criticism in this world because of his performance. But i'll let the carson wentz this year in twelve games this year. He never had a quarterback rating as bad as what we saw from. Pats were housed the great yesterday interesting. But we squash too harsh okay. That's fine because he's bad. What about somebody. Who was questionable thinker. Mayfield comes to mind up and down right baker and all his games this year never did he have a quarterback rating his bed if what we saw from pets but we given to baker mayfield but when we see somebody give us worse than both of those guys did this year. All of a sudden co is the coach. Who is the game plan game. Plan take it away weapons. Did you watch the houston texas game to watch the chargers. The doc- the raiders. This game plan. Even we saw from tampa bay and the quarter third quarter and fourth quarter has been out there for display but you have the talent to take advantage of it and more importantly will it pressure to other team to lose their way. That's what happened yesterday. But greg like i said you're a super bowl champion. You've got to conduct forever shirt on. I guess you better. But i'll tell what i knew. This was coming. So i got a little be room for you. Let it roll already. Know what it is bad cheese cheese because homes as just dude. I like teeth thirty two to twenty four. I'm not going to trust the bruce arians. I'm not going to trust a godwin right now. Over the guys on the kansas city chiefs roster go bodies. Stop the chiefs. Accept themselves. When i look at it. I think four touchdowns for patrick mahomes. I think two rushing and two through the air. I think you'll probably. Qb sneak it. He might be like. Don't his what you're thirty two points by four touchdowns touch doughnut a matter of fact that games. He didn't even have got with that. Oh you mean four into gaze at two again last night so the floor is yours. Mopping-up it up the and had no more cell of played for the chargers feels saying that apple traffic albouy. he doesn't herbert. He wins offensive rookie year and the charges account. Got me one. A little. like old take exposed tweets while. i'm like yeah justin herbert. I'm questionable about him coming out. Now you adjust the chargers going me. If y'all knew he was going to be that good. Why trade up to draft marcellus. You weren't born right to give up more to get to take the bus went by. You ain't even predict this. They're making my point now. Only or two brooks who. I thought they were the winners. But dan patch apologised. Show are disappointing. I gave you any seven points out there and give me a third of that. Why don't you give him some of the criticism. He deserves coming up. Patrick mahomes lost in the playoffs. And like otto mad at you right now again. A top rated show would tell you. His legacy took a hit food bags. Don't speak for yourself. It's hard maga- speak for yourself. Patrick mahomes missed out on a chance to repeat as champion last night. Lost by double digits for the first time in his nfl career and threw two interceptions in the process. Performer super bowl. Mvp is now six and two in a place with both losses against com. Greg is back good. Patrick mahomes is legacy take it fellas. It absolutely did ahead. I mean think legacies are defined by chips. Tom brady's legacy took a hit early on when he lost ally. Manning manning again lost. Nick foles lebron james. It's taken a hit when he's lost his championships kevin durant his legacy took a hit because he had to go to golden state to win a championship. Michael jordan his legacy has been established by never losing a tip and having no game saban's and all his chips legacies are defined by championships. The question is is patrick. Mahomes legacy going to be strong enough over the course of time to a standard is hit marcellus early in the show. Talk about russell. Wilson russell wilson. He wanted chip then. He got close to another chip. We look back seven years later. Russell wilson's biggest. Career highlight is being carried to a super bowl. No slight but that's his biggest career. Highlight peyton manning. early on. what was he threw in the playoffs like he was not looking. Good losing record against tom brady. But then manning win. The super bowl goes to denver wins another super bowl. His legacy ended up being able to be so great that it endured that hit that it took early on the question. Patrick mahomes does not. Did his legacy take a hit. The question is will his legacy great enough to endure the hit. It took last night because that was definitely as of now. A devastating blow disagree. His legacy took it hit and for all the reasons that we were talking about leading up to this gay and for who he had to go up against. He had to go up against the standard of legacy in tom. Brady the goat of all goats. Tom brady and so when you're going up against the best you better be at your best in everyone around. You has to be at your best. When i look at patrick mahomes in what he's been able to do over. The course of his short lived career. He's been to three. Afc championship games. One to two super bowls one one one. Mvp yes he lost those two losses in the postseason ourselves. You said it lasts segment was against the guy. He just lost who the guy who is the standard and so. That's just like us trying to say if lebron had an opportunity to play against michael jordan and he lost to michael jordan and the nba finals would is like taking it. He loses two and arguably say many who are you say is the goats the greatest of all time in that regard so any time you can take a hit if you call the hit against the best and you're striving to get there. No that's not a hit. That's a learning experience. That's a growing pain. That's something you can look and reflect on and say. Wow this is how you get it done. This is where i'm not at yet. And i have something to yet build upon so i don't think it's likely legacy took it. I think more than anything. The chiefs have to take themselves as a teen. Because i think they might have entered into their casket in that might be it but the chiefs. No we coming around now. Bring patrick mahomes along with that. Casket talkative we got something here because hey man all that dynasty talk all i know. Is it for prime. Lebron james loses to wizards jordan. Which is tom brady and tampa videos. I do. i'll be like have you ever go recover from that big dog because think about it when we're talking about recovery. We're tony romo. Say which is now you gotta get eight greens because seven is just tired and tom brady. And he's son. Do twice a head to head. So guess what sev- is not even enough in right now on the lead is seven to one get to eight man feel right now looking at patch malls in these chiefs. They feel they like them. Do you ever see y'all go out y'all shopping. Y'all doing some and you do the line in front of you get his credit card decline in front of his new girl. You could tell. Because he's sitting there like daniel he let me this. Ain't good for me right now. Trying to try to do that. Little rescue calling bang on all the way my checking and savings work. I'm like a. This is the moment right now where all things are going to be said about you. And guess what the chiefs. Asser the call in this situation. He universal wilson man. He he's russell wilson who gave you the parallels first year losing a playoff second year. You win both there. You lose the tom brady now. Where's his legacy going. Go from here because these are some disturbing numbers. Y'all quarterbacks will want super bowl. Trent dilfer brad johnson jeff hostetler and does with two you start to get paid men and then john elway but to we act like it's a male land with patrick mahomes we some mail in. Is this inevitable to happen with this chief team. I'm not so certain about it because his performances in the super bowl man the quarterback rating of fifty two when we were destroying peyton. Manning i mean destroy paint manning when they win the super bowl win a super bowl but he looked horrible in a situation like i don't know how he's going to recover from. This guy's y'all tell me but going forward. It's going to be some tough sledding for cheese team coming up. top one. Seven franken his first year in tampa. What tell you if this is the greatest accomplishment in sports history. that's net speak. Welcome back to speak for yourself. Tom brady capped off his first year in tampa. What the super bowl win last night. Brady one six rings with the patriots and bill ballot check now has moved onto his seventh. As a in your mind saw the go through three touchdown passes with two of. I'm going to former patriots teammate. Rob gronkowski brady's latest achievement and perspective after the game. Take a look chance down one of the greatest accomplishments in sports history. I mean i'm not gonna say the greatest would say it's up there sheriff to come down here tampa Come to an organization. That was ready to win. Come down here the players that you know. They're all fantastic players. Great guys everyone. Overall i mean stories just unbelievable and i definitely ranks up there as one of my biggest accomplishments ever. I respect that up for your quarterback marcellus eighty seven super bowl greatest accomplishment and sports three. Yes i'm gonna say. Yes even though. I'm with gronk like rugby. And even say i'm not gonna say is the greatest because the field of greatest accomplishments in sports slaps you in the face say it has to be another one out there. But you know me. Captain search and look. I'm like i think it is tom. Brady let me give it to you like this one distance story before. I even get to accomplishment. He always pierces through the bs like tom. Brady's like do. How dare y'all gimme all this talent around me when i could do more with less than any quarterback in history now you give them a situation where he got a team. That's trying to go back to back. A little arrogant low header skis talking about. They go back. He's like oh they're skipping steps over there. Watch what i do. And what did he do. Big became the only athlete. A major american professional sports history to win multiple championships multiple in his twenties tangled when shelley and his thirties and forties the year. That part this dude has won championships. Three in a two thousand two hundred thirty when they said i see you later. Tom brady's got to and counting in his forty. So i don't know another story out there. I'm gonna give it to you brooke because maybe you feel going to give me something. I don dog. I wanted to say. Tom brady had accomplished the greatest thing in sports history. I wanted to but then marcellus. Like when i'm speeding up that lighten. It turns yellow so now you better pump the brakes. I started thinking hold on now. Tom brady by the name of serena williams who won the australian open while eight weeks pregnant. Hold on wait a second. You won the australian open while eight weeks pregnant yet. Lose a set. Mazer is this is that it is because we're so we didn't have no receives to catch a ball four. No line of protect four. No defense against what. She signed up for a solo sport. Were you gotta do it by yourself. There's no one else to take the credit. There's no one else to lane here by yourself. Marcellus winning seven is great. Go into the bucks the losing an organization ever and winning that s great. But i'm not to say i'm not gonna sleep all williams winning the australian open not losing cassette while pregnant. Come on these phone. I'll amazing is harder to win the super bowl or they're harder to win a championship. Here's what i know you know is difficult to do. Know the answer. Go to stop more than just because he realized she was pregnant then she took a pregnancy test found out she was pregnant and still said. You know what. I'm going to hear when this whole thing coach. Yeah twenty three me. No no no not. You're not going to pull them a heartstrings. With twenty three what was she hadn't even won the most in in her in her sport. What was i going to do with this. Because the competently greatest cosmic is harder to super bowl or is it harder to win open title. No no more. People have won super bowls in one time. What i'm talking about. Tom brady only seven seven. He has the most the nfl history as it harder to wh harder but a number is shows that only seven is the most and versus a sport were twenty four is the most. I think it's harder to get what you're what you training sonny. He ain't got private football. What you're trying to get off this week with this hail. No competent for knows the worst franchise adver in all sports. Who has the most losses that situation had one brady. Had we not talking about football and football's harder to win a championship. Because you gotta get guys who are not focused not motivated or not even good to say i still gotta bring him at least serena quebec on herself. It's all serena good and bad when you easier when you got bad and other sports you got somebody to pull you up when you're bad and they solos school brady top holes. What was this is messed up because you put brady in the impossible position. He can't win his eighth one pregnant. And you know that. that's fucking. Have you covered the defense shut down last night. Member of todd bowles is proof is our unsung heroes. Next before yourself. And that's not fair. Welcome back tom brady. One is seven super bowl title and was named. Mvp last night. But what about the rest of the bucks cap. Rush for one hundred and forty five yards with a touchdown while on defense but picked up from home twice of retard kansas city out of the end zone so i'll tell who was the super bowl unsung heroes. There's one answer in this an easy answer defensive coordinator. Todd bowles phenomenal mind. Phenomenal game plan of thinking about how he shut down patrick mahomes. We've never seen it before. Patrick mahomes under ten points. Last time that happened was back in college. Cod bowls was so unsung that after the game. Marcellus the writers. The people asking the questions. They ain't even know who he was and we can. We like that happened. That was all look after games. Ask byron left with the to take it out on twitter. They will ask byron left wits iron left. Which was the game plan. You put together to stop patrick mahomes and the chiefs of which he just played it off like a g. I think talking about todd. Bowles unsung hero. Really you're also here. You can't even single get a video of his ass okay. I know. I know the difference between those two. Let me talk about somebody. We can't show. Let's talk about leonard. Fournette predicted playoff. Let to worst. That's why i had to caught on yet. But i predicted the bucks. We'll win check. I predicted brady went. Mvp check and also predicted. Who was the us on kiro. Then frenette my guy. Nfl ranking number one. Scrimmage ours this postseason number one touchdowns and number one in rushing yards A lot has been said about what the bucks defense did. Applause last minute said about the mvp and tom brady applause. But what gave all of those elements support confidence. Tom brady wasn't one dimensional. Because he had leonard. Fournette that defense. Oh you ain't gonna keep us on the field all day because yucca run the ball net once again. That's my unsung hero. Mr muscles as you're trying to show us give little his trophy to the leonard fournette body when you made me pay to bet fifteen pushups earlier on i i watch out for someone else now. Leonard fournette he did. His thing is hard to decipher where to put all the credit. I look at it like this. The defense kept the buccaneers offense to be able to do exactly what they wanted to do. First game the bucks got out of it so quick. They just have to start passing a ball com braided russia's in the first game but this time around they said you know what defense you do. Your part offense. We'll do our part. We don't often enough talk about complementary football. We get so busy. given hot. Takes cold takes whatever it takes so we always praise the offense praise it evens praises special teams know yesterday. The buccaneers played full complimentary. Football defense. you do your part. Keep the offense in the game so that we can do whatever we wanted to do. And then they had their way dog. Israel talk like. I love the fact that you brought up complimentary. Football is boring. is bill belichick patriots way. Tom brady all the things that tom brady and bodies in. Then i i saw. This won't come. Amanda arrogance and say arrogance with the negative connotation. I'm saying it would the fact that they just got a little ahead of themselves in their quest greatness. We don't have that much time for. But i feel like it's like i come into money. You start you. You could start by role that somebody ours over. Go about okay. This is like eight hundred eight hundred but you know when you really got money you stop stunned it bands. You've been there before can go starting early on because they just came into success. I think now they've been humbled now on the khakis and a polo every day on the state. And if you ain't gotta show and you're rich when you're trying to be rich show it right there. What's i'm rich. I coming up to one hundred dollars. Jamie had a rough night watching his teams lose in a super bowl book. Check in on him. Nex blue ramp yourself. He's flat lining he's flatlined Before we go good jamie's here. I'm gonna take pleasure in his vote chance last night. We got that covered. So let's check in on your own. You doing how you feeling. This right here is what feel like the fbi. A clipper fans on second thought. There's really no way that you could compare the student clippers. Because at least the chiefs did make it to a final win. Are you talking about joe gloat timers about open here. The joke global time star. Damn clipper fan. You have no room to talk about the lajos boone game last night. The damn clippers all week long wearing concrete soup chief. That's not the doberman pinscher. I don't know what the hell great name adult. Tell yourself i out last week. The trees lose fix was in a hoagie. Don't and that's what. I thought it was bielfeld. Check dam cheater. Found out it was doing the up outta here. 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